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I'M GREG GUS OUT OF CHAIR OF THE

[CALL TO ORDER]

HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE.

I'M HERE WITH VICE-CHAIR ELLIS AND MEMBERS, KITCHEN DIDIA AND MADISON.

IT IS, UH, 10:03 AM.

WE'RE MEETING VIRTUALLY, AND WE WILL GET STARTED HERE FOR THE NOVEMBER 17TH MEETING.

UM, THE ITEM ON THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN ITEM, NUMBER FOUR.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT UP TODAY.

I THINK THAT THAT'S PENDING FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

IS THAT RIGHT? COUNCIL MEMBER ELLA'S I DON'T THINK WE'RE TAKING THAT UP TODAY.

I KNOW YOU HAD REQUESTED THAT IN PART.

THAT IS TRUE.

UM, BUT WE ARE NOT TAKING IT UP TODAY IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

YEP.

THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

WELL

[1. Approve the minutes of the Housing and Planning Committee meeting of July 21, 2020 and September 8, 2020.]

THEN WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE FIRST ITEM, WHICH IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST, UM, FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT'S ITEM NUMBER ONE, UH, AND ACTUALLY FOR THE LAST TWO MEETINGS, THAT'S THE JULY MEETING AND THE SEPTEMBER MEETING WE'RE TAKING UP TODAY.

UM, I'D LIKE TO PROVE THAT BY ACCLIMATION, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO PASSING NUMBER ONE, UH, WITH THAT, UH, WITH HEARING NO OBJECTIONS, WE'LL PASS ITEM NUMBER ONE

[2. Approve the 2021 Housing and Planning Committee Meeting Schedule.]

AND MOVE ON TO NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS APPROVING OUR COMMITTEE MEETING SCHEDULED, UM, WHICH ALL SHOULD ALL HAVE THEIR OWN BACKUP.

LIKE WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT SAME PROCESS.

IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO APPROVING THE SCHEDULE AS POSTED HEARING NONE? THEN WE'LL APPROVE THAT BY ACCLAMATION BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME GOOD PRESENTATIONS TO GO OVER TODAY AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE AND, UH, HOPEFULLY GET US OUT WITH SOME SPARE TIME BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYONE'S BUSY.

UM, SO WE WILL THEN

[3. Staff report, public input, and discussion on updates to the Rental Housing Development Assistance (RHDA) and Ownership Housing Development Assistance (OHDA) Program.]

TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS OUR STAFF REPORT, PUBLIC INPUT AND DISCUSSION ON THE, UH, RENTAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND OWNERSHIP ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

SO I'LL LET THE STAFF TAKE THAT AWAY.

I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO PROBABLY BE MENTIONING IN ALL OF OUR MEETINGS THAT ARE TELEVISED TO THE PUBLIC, THAT THEY SHOULD CERTAINLY BE WEARING THEIR MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCING AND WASHING HANDS.

UM, WE CONTINUE TO SEE CASES GO UP AND SO AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY, I THINK WE'LL, WE'LL MENTION THAT.

SO PLEASE, PLEASE, UM, UH, PLEASE FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES SET OUT BY DR.

SCOTT.

I'LL HAND IT OVER TO YOU DIRECTOR TRULA.

THANK YOU.

UM, I APPRECIATE YOU REMINDING EVERYONE ABOUT THE GUIDELINES THAT WE SHOULD BE FOLLOWING.

UM, THIS PRESENTATION IS GOING TO COME FROM JAMIE MEI AND MANDY DAMASIO, AND SO ARE THEY OVER, I SEE THEM IN THE LIST.

AND SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JAMIE AND HE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH, UM, SOME, SOME POTENTIAL UPDATES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, FOR OUR RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND OUR OWNERSHIP, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

JAMIE, UH, GOOD MORNING.

UM, JANIE MAY WITH THE HAVING PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER OVER THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

UH, TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT OUR, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE, UH, TWIN PROGRAMS, THE RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND THE OWNERSHIP HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

UH, EVERY YEAR WE TAKE A LOOK AT OUR GUIDELINES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DEPLOYING THIS PROGRAM AND THE FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED IN A RESPONSIBLE AND EFFICIENT MANNER.

UM, SO THIS IS THE THIRD A YEAR THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED OUR GUIDELINES AND TRIED TO MAKE IT, UM, SO WE WANT TO START THE PRESENTATION.

SURE.

HERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, UM, UH, JAMIE MAY WITH THE HOUSING PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND THIS IS THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE ANNUAL REVIEW.

I DON'T KNOW IF I, OKAY.

UM, SO, UH, JUST TO GO OVER WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TODAY, JUST A QUICK REVIEW OF THE PROGRAMS, UH, THEN A QUICK REVIEW OF THE SUCCESSES FROM FISCAL YEAR 2020, AND THEN, UH, JUMPING INTO THE CHANGES IN THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 1821.

SO THE PROGRAM REVIEW, AS I MENTIONED, UH, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SYSTEMS, IT'S REALLY TWO SISTER PROGRAMS. THE FIRST IS A RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE.

THERE WE GO.

AND, UH, IF I SLIP UP AND CALL THIS RHD, UH, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS REFERRING TO RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A SISTER, WHICH IS THE OWNERSHIP HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE, OR O H D A IN THE RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

UH, THAT'S WHERE WE PROVIDE GAP FINANCING FOR RENTAL DEVELOPMENTS.

THINK ABOUT APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

UM, THESE ARE UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE BELOW 50% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, UH, AND THIS WE'VE DESIGNED OUR PROCESS SO THAT IT ALIGNS WITH AND IMPLEMENTS THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT.

UM, THE FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE USE IN ORDER TO GENERATE THESE UNITS, UH, INCLUDE HOME, UH, WHERE WE DEPLOY OUR CHODO OR OUR COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT

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ORGANIZATION, UH, FUNDS.

UH, THOSE ARE FUNDS SPECIFICALLY TARGETED FOR COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

WE HAVE FOUR CERTIFIED CHODOS.

THOSE ARE BLACK LAND CDC, UH, BLACK SHEAR MDC, UH, GUADALUPE, NDC, AND AHA, WHICH IS A ACCESSIBLE HOUSING AUSTIN.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR HOUSING TRUST FUND, WHICH, UH, COUNCIL, UH, ALLOCATES ANNUALLY.

WE HAVE, UH, GEOGRAPHICALLY RESTRICTED FUNDS, UM, SUCH AS THE UNIVERSITY NEIGHBORHOOD OVERLAY DISTRICTS OR THE HOMESTEAD PRESERVATION REINVESTMENT ZONE.

AND THESE ARE FUNDS THAT ARE AT SAYS GEOGRAPHICALLY RESTRICTED.

SO A DEVELOPMENT HAS TO BE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT DISTRICT IN ORDER TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS.

AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE 2018 GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS WHERE IN THE FOURTH YEAR OF DEPLOYING THOSE, UM, AND THIS YEAR, THE ALLOCATION FOR RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE IS 20 MILLION I BELIEVE.

AND THE SISTER PROGRAM IS THE OWNERSHIP, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE THAT PROVIDES GAP FINDINGS FINANCING FOR OWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENTS, SUCH AS CONDOS OR SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED UNITS OR TOWNHOUSES.

UH, THESE FUNDS ARE TARGETED TO UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE BELOW 80% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.

UH, IT ALSO ALIGNS WITH THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT HAD WE USED THE EXACT SAME FUNDING SOURCES.

UH, SO THESE TWO PROGRAMS, UH, RUN CONCURRENTLY AND COMPETE AGAINST EACH OTHER FOR THE, UH, FOR THE AVAILABLE FUNDS.

UH, I WILL NOTE THAT THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, UH, DEDICATED TO THE OWNERSHIP HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE, UH, IS AROUND 5 MILLION THIS YEAR.

UM,

[4. Staff report, public input, and discussion on the Draft 2020 Climate Equity Plan.]

AND, UH, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE DID IN FISCAL YEAR 20 THEN.

SO IN THIS PHASE, IN THE MOST RECENT FISCAL YEAR, UH, TELL YOU WHAT, UH, COUNCIL AWARDED, UH, JUST DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THAT, THE UNITS THAT WERE GENERATED BY THOSE AWARDS AND THEN THE UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN RELEASED, OR THAT HAVE COME ONLINE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

THESE ARE GENERATED FROM AWARDS THAT WERE MADE IN FISCAL YEAR 1918, 17, UH, GOING FURTHER BACK.

SO IN FISCAL YEAR, 1920, UH, COUNCIL AWARDED 12 DIFFERENT RHD OR RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE DEVELOPMENTS, UH, AND FIVE OHD OR OWNERSHIP HOUSING PRODUCT DEVELOPMENTS.

UH, THE TOTAL AWARDED FOR RENTAL HOUSING, UH, WAS AROUND $25.7 MILLION, UH, AND FIVE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WAS AWARDED TO THE OWNERSHIP HOUSING DEVELOPER PROGRAM.

NOW THIS, UH, THIS EQUATES TO AROUND A 14.8 LEVERAGE RATIO, UH, FOR OUR TOTAL INVESTMENT.

AND THAT MEANS THAT FOR EVERY $1 THAT THE CITY INVESTED IN A DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPER WENT OUT AND FOUND AROUND SIX AND A HALF DOLLARS FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE.

UM, AND I CREDIT THIS TO, UH, THE, THE DETERMINATION OF OUR DEVELOPERS, UH, TO UTILIZE OUR FUNDS WELL, AND TO, UH, THE TENACITY OF OUR STAFF, UH, ELLIS MORGAN AND DEEPA BOSTON, UH, TO REALLY PUSH OUR DEVELOPERS TO BE BETTER ABOUT HOW THEY USE OUR FUNDS.

SO WITH THAT, ROUGHLY, UH, $31 MILLION, 1,557 TOTAL UNITS WERE DEVELOPED OR WILL BE DEVELOPED, UH, OF THAT 1500, 814 OF THEM ARE RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE UNITS.

THAT MEANS THAT THEY ARE TARGETED TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING LESS THAN 50% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME OF THAT 814 125 OF THOSE UNITS WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE CONTINUUM OF CARE OR, UH, TO ASSIST THOSE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING WHEN EXITING HOMELESSNESS OF THE 1,557 UNITS, 289 OF THEM WILL BE OWNERSHIP UNITS DEDICATED TO AND HOUSEHOLDS EARNING LESS THAN 80% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.

THOSE ARE LONG-TERM AFFORDABILITY TO ASSIST WITH A LONG-TERM PLACEMENT OF HOUSEHOLDS.

NOW OF THAT 1,557, 354 ARE NOT INCOME RESTRICTED.

THERE'S A, ANOTHER 99 UNITS THAT ARE INCOME RESTRICTED AND MONITORED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.

UM, BUT THEY ARE AT 60% DEPENDENT, 80% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.

SO THEY WOULD NOT QUALIFY AS OUR HDA OR RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE UNITS.

UM, WE INCLUDE ALL OF THESE NUMBERS SO THAT, UH, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE NOT JUST, UH, IN THAT WE'RE NOT JUST COUNTING THE UNITS THAT WE INVEST IN, BUT ALL OF THE UNITS THAT COME AROUND WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND FINALLY OF THOSE UNITS THAT, UH, WERE INVESTED

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IN, IN PREVIOUS FISCAL YEARS, UH, WE HAVE SEEN 217 72 RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT UNITS LEASED IN THE LAST YEAR.

50 OF THOSE UNITS ARE DEDICATED TO THE CONTINUUM OF CARE AT TERRORISTS AT OAK SPRINGS.

UM, WHICH IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, YOU SHOULD, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY AND IT'S, UH, A MODEL THAT WE SHOULD BE PURSUING.

UH, THE, OF THOSE, UH, UH, SOLD UNITS.

WE SOLD 20 OWNERSHIP HOUSING WITH ELMO, UH, ASSISTANCE UNITS.

AND THOSE WERE PRIMARILY IN THE GUADALUPE NEIGHBORHOOD G AND DC GUADALUPE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AREA IN THE, UH, PORTALUPI SELL DOWN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ALSO SOLD A FEW, UH, AT THE, UH, SCENIC POINT AREA IS, UM, DEVELOPED BY HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

NOW, WHILE YOU'RE REALLY HERE, THE FISCAL YEAR, 2021 UPDATED REVIEW, UM, FIRST OF ALL, OR WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE GUIDELINES, AND THEN JUST MENTION SOME OF THE HOUSEKEEPING ISSUES AND THEN DIG INTO THE REAL PROGRAMMATIC CHANGES, UH, THAT WE WANT TO IF YOU WANT.

SO JUST SOME HOUSEKEEPING ISSUES.

UM, IN OUR GUIDELINES, WE MENTIONED PROJECT, UM, WE REFER TO ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS AS PROJECTS.

WELL, THAT, THAT HAS A, UH, UM, UH, STIGMA THAT WE'RE HAS A STIGMA ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO WE'VE JUST CHANGED ALL OF THE, ANYWHERE WHERE YOU WERE GOING TO SAY PROJECT TO DEVELOP, UM, SIMILARLY, UH, IN HCD OR NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NO LONGER EXISTS.

IT IS NOW HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH, THEREFORE ANYWHERE THAT SAYS NACD HAS BEEN CHANGED TO HPD.

AND FINALLY, UH, WE HAVE WORKED WITH OUR LAW DEPARTMENT TO IMPROVE THE CLARITY OF, UH, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE, UM, JUST SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.

SO THE DEVELOPERS KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.

AND SO THAT THERE ISN'T ANY CONFUSION AT TIME OF APPLICATION OR KIND OF EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT.

AND I BRING ALL OF THIS UP JUST SO THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE RED LINE VERSION OF THE, UH, CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT, THERE'S A LOT OF RED LINE.

A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH JUST CHANGING THIS NOMENCLATURE AND CLARIFYING THE LANGUAGE.

NOW, FORMATIC CHANGES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, CAN BE CATEGORIES INTO SIX BROAD, BROAD AREAS.

FIRST, WE HAVE, UH, IMPLEMENTED SOME NEW THREE REQUISITES FOR THE APPLICATION.

UM, WE HAVE DIFFERENTIATED THE LOAN TOPOLOGIES.

WE HAVE ADDED SOME TERMS TO OUR LOAN PACKAGES.

WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE CONTINUUM OF CARE UNITS AND IN A LITTLE DIFFERENT WAY, WE ARE, UH, READOPTING THE LEASE ADDENDUM AND, UH, IMPLEMENTING THE TENANT SELECTION POLICIES THAT COUNCIL AND I INSTRUCTED IN JUNE WITH THE FAIR CHANCE HOUSING, UH, RESOLUTION.

SO THE FIRST SECTION, THE APPLICATION PREREQUISITES SMART HOUSING CERTIFICATION MUST BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TO APPLICATION.

WE'VE HAD SOME DEVELOPERS KIND OF LAG ON THAT.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT HARDER.

UM, ALSO WITH AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK, WE WANT, IF YOU ARE GOING TO UTILIZE THAT PROGRAM, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT BEFORE YOU APPLY FOR FUNDS.

THE PURPOSE BEHIND THAT IS BECAUSE, UH, WITH AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, YOUR DEVELOPMENT CAN CHANGE DRAMATICALLY.

UM, SO WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING AND HOW MANY UNITS WE CAN EXPECT.

SIMILARLY, WITH ZONING, WE'VE HAD, UH, SOME APPLICANTS BRING FORTH A REQUEST FOR FUNDING, UH, AND SAY THAT THEY HAVE APPLIED FOR SOMETHING WHICH IS STILL, UH, POSSIBLE.

HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE HFC BOARD OF DIRECTORS UNTIL ZONING HAS BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.

SO IT MIGHT BE AT THE SAME MEETING, OR IT MIGHT BE AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING, BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO PUT YOU IN A POSITION TO HAVE TO FUND SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED FOR ZONING.

AND WITH OUR LIGHT TECH DEVELOPMENTS, MOST OF OUR RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM DOLLARS GO TO LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROPERTIES, WHICH IS FUNDED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, UH, IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS, YOU NEED TO HAVE A RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION.

UH, AND WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT A RESOLUTION TO NO OBJECTION BEFORE YOU APPLY FOR OUR DOLLARS.

UH, SIMILARLY, IF YOU ARE USING, UH, HFC OR AUSTIN HOUSING, FINANCE CORPORATION DOLLARS THROUGH THE RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, WE ARE, WILL BE YOUR ISSUER OF YOUR PRIVATE ACTIVITY BONDS.

UM, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH A HARD AND FAST RULE.

UH, THERE MIGHT BE SOME SITUATIONS WHERE WE CAN WAIVE THAT, HOWEVER WE WANT TO BE TO USE YOU OR OF YOUR PRIVATE ACTIVITY.

AND THEN FINALLY, IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING PURSUING A PARTNERSHIP WITH A HFC OR AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION,

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UH, THOSE CONVERSATIONS NEED TO BE STARTED PRIOR TO SUBMITTING FOR APPLICATION OFFENSE, AND THEY NEED TO BE WELL ALONG THE WAY.

UH, IN THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR OF 2021, WE WILL BE ISSUING AN RFQ OR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, UH, SO THAT ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN PURSUING A PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, AND BE VETTED BEFORE AN APPLICATION FOR FUNDING IS RECEIVED.

NOW, AS FAR AS THE LOAN TYPOLOGY IS WHEN YOU ARE APPLYING FOR FUNDS.

UH, CURRENTLY WE ACCEPT AN APPLICATION, UM, TO, UH, FOR FUNDS WITHOUT REALLY ASKING AT WHAT STAGE ARE YOU IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO ALONE, UH, WILL BE ISSUED FOR ACQUISITION TO ACQUIRE THE LAND FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, PROBLEMS. AND THE CHALLENGES WITH THIS ARE THAT THE LOAN IS NOT NECESSARILY TIED TO CONSTRUCTION FINANCE.

UM, THIS HAS A, THIS CAN CARRY A SIGNIFICANT RISK OF DELAY, AND ONCE OUR FUNDS ARE UTILIZED AND THE DEVELOPER HAS THE LAND, UH, THERE'S LESS INCENTIVE TO MAINTAIN COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEVELOPER, UM, FOR THE DEVELOPER TO MAINTAIN COMMUNICATION WITH OUR STAFF, TO ENSURE MONITORING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.

HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT THESE FUNDS ARE NEEDED, THEY ARE FLEXIBLE.

UM, AND OFTEN THEY ARE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO TAKE DOWN THE LAND.

UH, AND THIS ACQUISITION DOES REPRESENT A MAJOR PORTION OF THE AWARDS OF ISSUE.

SO WE KNOW THAT IT IS NECESSARY.

WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE IS, UH, WHEN WE ISSUE AN ACQUISITION LOAN AHSE WILL RETAIN CONTROL.

SO IF A DEVELOPER BRINGS A PLOT OF LAND THAT IS UNDEVELOPED AHSE MAY ACQUIRE IT AND HOLD IT, UM, OR IT MAY ISSUE A LOAN COUPLED WITH AN OPTION TO PURCHASE AGREEMENT.

SO THAT WAY, IF THE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD, HRC HAS CONTROL OVER THE LAND AND CAN THEN EITHER ISSUE AN RFP OR DEVELOP IT ITSELF.

UM, THIS PURCHASE AGREEMENT AND, UH, A RIGHT TO DEVELOP DOES CARRY A CONSTRUCTION FINANCING SHOT CLUB.

NOW, AGAIN, PARTNERSHIPS MUST BE COMIN CONSIDERED PRIOR TO APPLYING FOR ACQUISITION FUNDS.

SO IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT PARTNERSHIP AND YOU ARE LOOKING TO ACQUIRE THESE FUNDS, THEN THIS CONVERSATION HAS A BETTER STEP PROCESS.

THE SECOND TYPE OF FUND THAT WE ISSUE, OR THE SECOND TYPE OF LOAN THAT WE ISSUED OUR PRE-DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHEN AN APPLICANT APPLIES FOR PRE-DEVELOPMENT, THEY MUST SUBMIT A FULL PROPOSAL, UM, COM AND THAT MAKES THEM COMPETE WITH OTHER APPLICATIONS THAT ARE MUCH FURTHER ALONG IN THE PROCESS AND HAVE MUCH MORE INFORMATION.

UH, THEY PRE-DEVELOPMENT LOAN IS EXTREMELY EARLY IN THE PROCESS.

UM, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, IT CARRIES INCREASED RISK.

UH, A PRE-DEVELOPMENT MAY ULTIMATELY NOT, UM, RESULT IN ANY DEVELOPER.

HOWEVER, AGAIN, THESE FUNDS ARE FLEXIBLE AND OUR SMALLER DEVELOPERS IN PARTICULAR NEED THIS TYPE OF ASSISTANCE, UH, JUST TO GET THINGS OFF THE GROUND AND MOVING.

SO OUR PROPOSAL IS TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR PRE-DEVELOPMENT.

THESE WOULD BE SMALLER LOANS, AND THEY WOULD BE REPAYABLE.

SO PRE-DEVELOPMENT LOANS WILL BE CAPPED AT $300,000.

THAT WAY THEY CAN MOVE QUICKLY.

UH, WE DON'T, WE ARE ALLOWED TO ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE LOANS LESS THAN $300,000 WITHOUT TAKING YOUR REQUEST TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

ANY PRE-DEVELOPMENT LOAN WOULD ENSURE AT THE CLOSE OF CONSTRUCTION FINANCING FOR THREE YEARS FROM THE DATE OF THE LOAN, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST, UM, AND PRE-DEVELOPMENT LOANS MAY BE REPAID OR WRAPPED INTO THE CONSTRUCTION FINANCING.

IF A HFC IS A PART OF A CONSTRUCTION CAPITAL STACK, AS THEY SAY THIS, UH, ELIMINATES SOME OF THE RISK ON OUR END, WE STILL HAVE THE RIGHT AND THE ABILITY TO FORGIVE ANY PRE-DEVELOPMENT LOAN THAT COMES IN, BUT THE POLICY WOULD BE THAT THESE WILL BE REPAID AT CONSTRUCTION FINANCING AND SPEAKING OF CONSTRUCTION FINANCING.

THAT IS WHERE WE PREFER TO ISSUE OUR FUNDS.

THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE SAFEST PLACE TO MAKE A LOAN.

UM, IT'S ALSO THE EASIEST PLACE TO MONITOR AND FOLLOW THE, UH, THE PACE OF CONSTRUCTION.

UM, TYPICALLY WE ARE WILLING TO SUBORDINATE, UH, TO ANY PRIMARY LOANS, UM, AND UNDER OUR CURRENT POLICY, ALL LOANS CARRY IDENTICAL TERMS. EVERY LOAN THAT WE ISSUED IS A DEFERRED FOR DIMMABLE.

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WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THAT'S NOT NECESSARY, NOT NECESSARILY EQUITABLE WAY.

SO WE PROPOSE TO VARY OUR TERMS BY THE LOAN AND BY THE AWARDEE, UH, TERMS WILL BE NEGOTIATED DURING THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

OUR FINANCIAL ANALYSTS CURRENTLY NEGOTIATED WITH APPLICANTS TO DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS BEING REQUESTED AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS BEING PROVIDED.

SO THIS IS ONE MORE TOOL FOR OUR FINANCIAL ANALYSTS TO USE, TO ENSURE THAT THE FUNDS ARE BEING USED IN THE MOST EFFECTIVE MANNER POSSIBLE.

UM, HFC WILL ALWAYS RESERVE THE RIGHT TO FORGIVE THE LOAN IN WHOLE OR IN PART.

UM, BUT NOW WE MAY START APPLYING INTEREST.

UM, AND WE MAY, UH, INSTEAD OF HAVING EVERYTHING DEFERRED, MAYBE IT WILL ONLY DEFER THE PRINCIPLE AND THE INTEREST IS A PAYABLE, OR PERHAPS IT'S GOING TO BE AN ADVERTISEMENT IN EITHER IN ANY RESPECT.

ALL OF OUR CONSTRUCTION FINANCING WILL CARRY A LONG SHOT.

UM, THAT WAY, ONCE WE ISSUE THE AWARD, WE KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL GET TO THE CLOSING TABLE AND BEGIN CONSTRUCTION QUICKER.

IF THEY MISS THAT SHOT CLOCK, HFC RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DE OBLIGATE THE AWARD, UM, SO THAT WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS FOR DEVELOPMENT THAT IS MOVING THROUGH AND, AND ALL OF OUR CONSTRUCTION FINANCING, UH, AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION WILL RESERVE A RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL.

NOW THAT'S ALL OF OUR LEMS AND THAT'S A LOT TO DIGEST.

UM, THE NEXT SECTION IS CONTINUUM OF CARE UNITS.

AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

UM, THE, UH, CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE TODAY IS THAT CONTINUUM OF CARE UNITS ARE A SCORING ITEM ON AN APPLICATION.

THEY MAY QUALIFY FOR INCREASED SUBSIDIES.

UH, HOWEVER, WE DON'T REQUIRE ANY MINIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS.

WHEN A DEVELOPER PROVIDES CONTINUUM OF CARE, WE DO REQUIRE THEM TO SECURE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH ECHO, WHERE AN ECHO IDENTIFIES THE TENANT, COORDINATES THE SERVICES AND PROVIDES THE SUBSIDY.

HOWEVER, THIS IS A VERY LOW THRESHOLD FOR PARTICIPATION AND HONESTLY, VERY LOW INCENTIVE.

SO OUR PROPOSAL WOULD BE TO ADDRESS ALL THREE LEGS OF THE CONTINUUM OF CARE SCHOOL.

SO A DEVELOPER WHO WISHES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM MUST PROVIDE NO LESS THAN 15 UNITS.

UH, WE'VE WORKED WITH, UH, ECHO TO IDENTIFY A MAGIC NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WOULD BE, UH, SUPPORTABLE.

UM, THIS, THIS IS RIGHT AROUND IN THAT, IN THAT AREA OF 15 UNITS, UH, THE DEVELOPER MUST SECURE THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH ECHO CONFIRMING THAT THESE ARE HOUSING FIRST UNITS ECHO, AND THE DEVELOPER MUST ALSO, UH, IDENTIFY AND APPROPRIATE SERVICE PROVIDERS AND EXECUTE A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE SERVICE PROVIDER AND PROVIDE DEDICATED SPACE FOR THAT PROVIDER.

THIS COULD INCLUDE ONSITE LIVING ROOMS, UM, BUT AT A MINIMUM, WE NEED A SPACE FOR THE SERVICE PROVIDER TO OPERATE AND PROVIDE THE SERVICE.

AND THEN FINALLY, UH, THE SUBSIDY THAT THE COC UNITS, UH, WHO MAY BE PART OF THE LOCAL HOUSING VOUCHER PROGRAM THAT, UH, HSE HAS CREATED WITH OUR HOUSING TRUST FUND.

THIS IS NOT GUARANTEED.

THIS IS, UH, UH, ONLY NOW BY PROVIDING THOSE 15 UNITS AND EXECUTING YOUR SERVICE AGREEMENT, YOU MAY QUALIFY FOR THAT LOCAL HOUSING DUNGEON.

THE NEXT TO LAST ISSUE, UH, IS THE LEAST IN DENVER.

WE ARE, WE HAVE CONSOLIDATED ALL OF OUR TENANT PROTECTIONS IN 2019.

UM, WE HAD A LEASE ADDENDUM AND THEN WE HAD TENANT PROTECTIONS IN OUR GUIDELINES.

WE COLLAPSED THEM ALL INTO ONE DOCUMENT AND THAT COLLAPSED, CAUSED A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN OVER CLARITY.

UH, WE MET WITH, UH, ADVOCATES FROM TENANT ORGANIZATIONS AND HOUSING PROVIDERS, AND WE HAVE A REMINDS THE LISA DENIM, UH, IT IS WITH A LOT DEPARTMENT NOW.

UM, AND ONCE THAT IS APPROVED, WE WILL BE APPENDING THAT NOT ONLY TO ALL LOANS, BUT IT WILL ALSO BE APPENDED TO THE RHD GUIDELINES THAT WAY, ALL DEVELOPERS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT LEASE ADDENDUM THEY NEED TO SIGN AND HOW THEY NEED TO GET ENFORCED.

AND THEN LASTLY, THE TENANT SELECTION POLICY IN JUNE OF, UH, JUNE 11TH, UM, COUNCIL ISSUED A RESOLUTION THAT WAS, UH, POLITICALLY, UH, CALLED FAIR CHANCE HOUSING IN SEPTEMBER, AFTER DOING SOME RESEARCH, UH, WE HELD A STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT MEETING, UH, AND COUNCIL

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MEMBER HARPER MADISON WAS THERE.

UH, SHORTLY AFTER THAT STAKEHOLDER MEETING, WE, UH, INITIATED A STAKEHOLDER DIALOGUE WITH SEVERAL DEVELOPERS AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE RE-ENTRY ROUND TABLE.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE A SPEAK-UP AUSTIN PAGE, WHICH IS SOLICITING PUBLIC COMMENTS, NOT ONLY ON THE TENT SELECTION POLICY, BUT ON THE ENTIRE RHD OR RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE, GUIDELINES, CHANGES, UM, THAT HAS BEEN OPEN FOR ABOUT A WEEK NOW, UH, WE'VE SEEN ABOUT 55, UH, UNIQUE USERS LOG INTO THE SPEAKER BOSTON PAGE.

SO WE EXPECT THAT TO BE A SIGNIFICANT SOURCE OF PUBLIC COMMENT, THE TENANT SELECTION POLICY, JUST LIKE THE LISA DENNIS WILL BE APPENDED TO THE RSD, THAT GUIDELINES AGAIN, SO THAT DEVELOPERS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO AND HOW THEY NEED TO COMPLY BEFORE THEY APPLY.

NOW, THE TENANT SELECTION POLICY HAS A COUPLE OF PARTS FIRST, UH, AND THIS IS CURRENT, UH, POLICY LOOK BACK PERIODS AGAIN FROM THE DATE OF CONVICTION, NOT FROM THE DATE OF, UH, INCARCERATION, BUT FROM THE DATA, UH, CONVICTION, UM, OR FROM THE DATE OF, UH, ARREST SCREENING ONLY APPLIES TO OFFENSES LISTED ON THE SCREENING GUN.

SO AN INDIVIDUAL MUST BE CONVICTED OF AN OFFENSE LISTED ON THE SCREEN.

AN APPLICANTS DENIED SHELBY AUTOMATICALLY AFFORDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALIZED REVIEW, CURRENTLY APPLICANTS WHO ARE DENIED, UH, HAVE TO VOLUNTARILY REQUEST AN INDIVIDUALIZED REVIEW.

NOW WE ARE REQUIRING IT BE AUTOMATIC.

NOW WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ORGANIZATION OR THE ONLY ENTITY DEALING WITH THESE CHALLENGES.

UH, TDH CA UH, HAS ISSUED SOME CHANGES TO THEIR, UM, QUALIFIED ALLOCATION PLAN OR QAP, WHICH REGULATES THE, UH, AWARDING OF THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS.

UH, THEY'VE CHANGED THE DEFINITION, UH, REGARDING PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

AND WE ARE CLOSELY FOLLOWING THAT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT IN CONFLICT, UH, AND TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THE HIGHEST STANDARDS ARE MET.

NOW, I WILL NOTE THAT, UH, THE SCREENING GUIDE, UH, THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE SETS A MAXIMUM LOOK BACK PERIOD FOR OFFENSES, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE EVERY ROUTE, RIGHT, TO SET LOWER, LOOK BACK PERIODS FOR ANY LISTED OFFENSE, SHOULD THEY SO CHOOSE? AND THIS IS THE, UH, TABLE OF, UH, OFFENSES AND, UM, HER POSED LOOK BACK PERIODS, UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHERE THIS CAME FROM.

UH, WE TOOK THE, UH, REENTRY ROUNDTABLE SCREENING GUY, TOOK THE SCREENING GUIDE FROM, UH, OR THE SCREEN POLICY FROM SEVERAL PRIVATE DEVELOPERS AND FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UM, REVIEWED THEM AND THEN LOOKED AT THE, UH, TEXAS PENAL CODE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT OFFENSES THAT ARE, UH, IN FENCES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

UH, WE THEN LOOKED AT CLASSIFICATIONS FOR SOME OF THESE, UH, WE KNOW THAT A, A MISDEMEANOR, UH, UM, AND, AND MISDEMEANOR DOES NOT NECESSARILY, OR SHOULD NOT NECESSARILY CARRY THE SAME, UH, PENALTY AS A FEDERAL FELONY, UH, PARTICULARLY NOT A FIRST DEGREE FELONY.

UM, AND IN SOME SITUATIONS, A FIRST DEGREE OR A MISDEMEANOR DOES NOT EXIST.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MISDEMEANOR MURDER.

UM, SO WE'VE PROVIDED THE CLASSIFICATION BY WHICH THESE, UH, OFFENSES ACTUALLY APPLY.

AND THEN FOR ALL THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE SEE, UH, FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES SENIOR DEVELOPMENTS, UM, THOSE HOW THOSE CAN HAVE A MORE, UH, SIGNIFICANT LOOKBACK PERIOD, UM, MURDER AND MANSLAUGHTER AND KIDNAPPING ARE LIFETIME, LOOK BACK PERIODS FOR ALL OF THESE, FOR, FOR A FAMILY TYPE DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES NOT MEAN A LIFETIME BAN.

THAT MERELY MEANS THAT, UH, THAT OFFENSE WOULD SHOW UP ON YOUR CRIMINAL BACKGROUND SCREEN.

AND THEN, UH, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE AFFORDED AN AUTOMATIC INDIVIDUALIZED REVIEW.

NOW, IF YOU ARE IN A SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UM, THEN THOSE LOOK BACK PERIODS.

I'M NOT SURE, UH, FIVE FOR MURDER AND MANSLAUGHTER, UH, ONE YEAR FOR ASSAULT VERSUS THREE YEARS, UH, FOR A FAMILY DEVELOP.

NOW, THE JUSTIFICATION HERE IS THAT THESE ARE SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANTS.

UH, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THAT NORMALLY CARRY SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

UH, SO WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT

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WE'RE NOT LEAVING PEOPLE ON THE STREETS AND ANYWHERE WHERE YOU HAVE A CONTINUUM OF CARE DEVELOPMENT, UH, THEN THERE SHALL BE NO LOOK BACK PERIOD FOR ANY LISTED EVENTS.

AND AGAIN, THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT, UH, ALL OF OUR COC UNITS OR CONTINUUM OF CARRYING OUR HOUSING NOW, THE NEXT STEPS.

OKAY.

UH, AGAIN, OUR SPEAK-UP AUSTIN PAGE IS OPEN NOW.

UH, WE ARE COLLECTING COMMENTS.

UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO COLLECT ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS AND DIGEST THEM INTO OUR GUIDELINES.

UH, WE WILL HAVE A, UH, ANNUAL MEETING IN ON DECEMBER 9TH WHERE WE WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON OUR, UH, UM, GUIDELINES, UH, AND INCORPORATE THOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THIS MEETING WILL BE RECORDED.

SO THE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO ATTEND 10, YOU WOULD LATER.

AND THEN ONCE WE SOLID, ONCE WE SOLIDIFY OUR GUIDELINES, THEY WILL GO INTO EFFECT JANUARY 1ST, 2021, AND THEY WILL BE APPLICABLE FOR THE NEXT APPLICATION DATE, WHICH IS FEBRUARY 5TH, 2021.

AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING I'M GONNA MENTION.

I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT, UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO TALK.

THANK YOU, JAMIE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON FIRST, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN.

SORRY, I'M GOING TO ADJUST MY VOLUME WHEN JAMIE WAS TALKING, IT SOUNDED LIKE A HORROR MOVIE.

YOU KNOW HOW THE STATIC, YOU CAN HEAR THE, THE CREEPY BAD GUY IN THE BACKGROUND.

SO THERE WAS THIS STATICKY SOUND, SO I JUST TURNED THE DOWNSIDE AND SCARE ME.

OKAY.

SO A COUPLE OF, NO, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.

I'M SURE IT'S SOMETHING BACK ON MY END.

UM, SO WHAT DOES SPEAK OF BOSTON WEBSITE? THAT'S EXCITING.

AND SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS YOU SAID THERE, YOU SAID, UM, 50TH, I BELIEVE YOU SAID 55 OR 56 UNIQUE USERS.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THAT MEANS? UM, INDIVIDUALS, UH, I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE COUNTED, UH, BY THEIR, UM, INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDERS.

SO LIKE THE NUMBER THAT IS TAGGED TO YOUR OWN COMPUTER, UM, THAT I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW THEY COUNT THAT, BUT I CAN CHECK TO MAKE SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS REFERRING TO.

THAT'D BE HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, TO DATE, HOW ARE PEOPLE FINDING OUT ABOUT SPEAK-UP AUSTIN? SO WE ISSUED A, UM, AN EMAIL BLAST TO OUR LISTSERV, UH, TO EVERYONE WHO ATTENDED SEPTEMBER MEETING.

UM, AND THERE IS A NEWS PRESS RELEASE GOING ONTO OUR WEBSITE, UM, UH, TO PROVIDE THAT LINK.

HOW CAN, HOW CAN WE HELP TO SPREAD THAT INFORMATION? IS THERE, UH, TO A KID, A PRESS PACKET OR SOMETHING WITH COLLATERAL THAT WHERE WE CAN HELP SPREAD THAT INFORMATION, I CAN GET YOU IN CONTACT WITH OUR COMMUNITY, UH, PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AND SEE EXACTLY HOW YOU CAN HELP.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

THANK YOU.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD SHARE THAT WITH ALL MY COLLEAGUES, I'M CERTAIN, ALL OF US HAVE CONSTITUENTS WHO WOULD APPRECIATE HAVING ACCESS TO THAT.

UM, DID YOUR COUNSEL COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON, THIS IS MANDY DE MAYO, AND I WILL GET YOU, UH, AND ALL OF YOUR COLLEAGUES, UH, THE, THE PRESS RELEASE FOR THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SPREAD THE WORD FAR AND WIDE.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A REALLY IMPORTANT ITEM FOR US, AND WE WANT AS MUCH INPUT AS POSSIBLE.

UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, WE INITIATED THE STAKEHOLDER PROCESS BACK IN SEPTEMBER, UM, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET MORE INPUT FROM A BROADER SECTION, UM, UH, CONSTITUENTS.

AND SO WE'LL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, I WAS TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT LIKE AN INFOGRAPHIC OR JUST A QUICK LITTLE GRAPHIC DESIGN THAT SAYS WHAT IT IS AND WHERE TO GO, STUFF THAT WE CAN SHARE ON INSTAGRAM OR A TWITTER.

YOU REALLY CAN'T SHARE A PRESS RELEASE ON.

SO I WAS THINKING SOMETHING MORE ALONG THE LINES OF A SHAREABLE, EASY TO DIGEST.

THIS IS WHAT IT IS, SOMETHING WITH COLORS AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'LL CATCH PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? ABSOLUTELY.

AND THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, TO, TO, TO, TO, TO USE THAT QUESTION, THAT QUESTION.

OH, AND THEN, UM, THERE WAS ONE SIDE, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH THE SLIDE NUMBER, BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDE.

YOU TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW, WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED TO, TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE, UH, CONTINUUM OF CARE HOUSING, BUT ON THE SLIDE PRIOR TO YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE WAS VERY LITTLE IN THE WAY OF INCENTIVE, I STILL DIDN'T CATCH HOW WE INTEND TO INCENTIVIZE.

SO THE, THE CURRENT POLICY IT'S, UH, JUST TELL US HOW MANY UNITS YOU WANT TO BRING.

AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL ACCEPT

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THOSE, UM, BY PROVIDING 15 UNITS, UH, OR A MINIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS, UH, WE CAN THEN LOOK AT HOW ARE OUR GAP FINANCING IS UTILIZED.

SO MAYBE THE SUBSIDY PER UNIT GOES UP A LITTLE BIT MORE.

WE PROVIDE MORE FUNDS ON THE FRONT END.

UM, AND THEN, UH, HAVING ACCESS TO THAT LOCAL HOUSING VOUCHER, UH, THAT GUARANTEED VOUCHER, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY ATTRACTIVE PIECE THAT DEVELOPERS WANT TO SEE.

YEAH.

AND JAMIE, IF I CAN BUILD ON THIS, THIS, AGAIN, AS MANDY DE MAYO, UM, REGARDING THE LOCAL HOUSING VOUCHER, WE'RE SUPER EXCITED TO LAUNCH THIS PROGRAM.

UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR, YOU ALL APPROVED AS YOU KNOW, IN OUR HOUSING TRUST FUND $3.6 MILLION FOR THIS LOCAL OPERATING SUBSIDY, YOU'LL BE RECEIVING KIND OF A PREVIEW MEMO.

UH, MY GUESS IS NEXT WEEK IN ANTICIPATION OF THE DECEMBER 3RD, H H F C BOARD MEETING, WHERE YOU WILL BE CONSIDERING OUR FIRST, UH, RECIPIENT OF OUR LOCAL HOUSING VOUCHER OPERATING SUBSIDY, AND THAT'S THE SPARROW AT RUTLAND.

UM, SO, UH, STAY TUNED FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT THIS IS ALSO A TOOL THAT WE HOPE TO DEPLOY FOR VERY STRATEGIC HOUSING THAT OFFERS REALLY IMPORTANT HOUSING FIRST UNITS, CONTINUUM OF CARE UNITS, AND A SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF THEM.

SO NOT JUST A SPRINKLING, A COUPLE OF UNITS HERE OR THERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 15 UNITS, UM, THAT PROVIDES THAT, UM, ECONOMIES OF SCALE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE ONSITE CASE MANAGEMENT REALLY SUPPORT THOSE RESIDENTS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL AND THAT THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT AND SUCCESSFUL.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.

AND SPEAKING OF THE, I LOOKED IN THE BACK OF THEM, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT.

AND I KIND OF SCAN THROUGH MY EMAIL REAL QUICK.

DID YOU SEE THIS, THIS PRESENTATION? YES.

IT WENT OUT, UH, I BELIEVE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND IT SHOULD BE IN BACKUP AS WELL.

I THINK IT WOULD HAVE COME FROM JONATHAN TOMKO.

YEAH.

BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT WENT TO YOUR ASSISTANCE.

SO LAUREN HAS A COPY OF IT, COUNCIL MEMBER, AND I CAN FORWARD YOU THE WHOLE PACKET RIGHT NOW.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

THANK YOU, ROSIE.

YEAH, YOU BET.

YEAH.

ROSIE, IF YOU COULD SEND THAT TO ME ALSO, I THINK IT HELPS TO SEND IT TO US ALSO, UH, AS WELL.

WELL, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE.

I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE NORMAL PRACTICE TO SEND IT TO YOUR, UM, TO THE FOLKS IN YOUR OFFICE, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE IT GOES TO YOU AND I'M NOT GOING TO SEND IT TO ALL OF YOU RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS TO YOU.

UM, FOLLOW UP ON THE CONTINUUM OF CARE.

UM, THANK YOU, COUNCIL, UH, HARPER, MADISON OF THAT SCENARIO.

I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN.

SO, UM, AS, AS, AS I KNOW YOU ARE ALSO, SO, UM, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS RELATED TO IT IS, UM, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD APPROACH OF SETTING A MINIMUM AMOUNT OR 15.

UM, AND THEN TYING THAT TO, UM, UH, TYING THAT TO THE VOUCHER IS THAT I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

DOES, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY WILL GET THE VETERAN MONEY IF THEY DO OR TELL ME WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE DETERMINING FACTOR THERE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO THE HOUSING? SO RIGHT BEFORE, RIGHT BEFORE YOU JUMP IN, UH, JAMIE, AS YOU WERE GETTING SOME OF THE INTERFERENCE, BECAUSE WE HAVE MULTIPLE FOLKS OFF MUTE, IF EVERYONE CAN, CAN TELL US, EXCEPT FOR THE PERSON TALKING TO THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP.

THANK YOU.

UM, NO, UH, IT IS NOT GUARANTEED AND IT IS NOT AUTOMATIC.

UM, AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THAT LOCAL HOUSING VOUCHER PROGRAM, WE EXPECT IT TO BE COMPETITIVE.

UM, UH, SO, UH, HOW THAT COMPETITION WORKS, UH, IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED.

HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT WHEN A DEVELOPER SIGNS AND MOU WITH ECHO, UH, THEY DO BRING A VOUCHER.

UM, SO THIS JUST GIVES THE LOCAL HOUSING VOUCHER.

IT GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE INCENTIVE ON OUR END, UH, TO SAY, NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE A COMMITMENT FROM ECHO TO PROVIDE A VOUCHER, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S COMING FROM US AND IT CARRIES THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

OKAY.

SO I, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T QUITE FOLLOW.

SO THE MINIMUM OF 15 IS REQUIRED.

WHAT DO THEY GET WITH A MINIMUM OF 15, IN OTHER WORDS, TO, TO GET, WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO, UH, COMMIT TO 15 CSA COUNCIL MEMBER? UH, KITCHEN.

ONE THING WE DO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, LOW, LOW THRESHOLD, LOW INCENTIVE IS, UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US AS A DEPARTMENT.

WE DO HAVE FUNDING, UH, IN OUR

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HOUSING TRUST FUND, AS I MENTIONED FOR THE LOCAL HOUSING VOUCHER, BUT WE ALSO HAVE FUNDING OR WHAT WE CALL A COC SUBSIDIES OR CONTINUUM OF CARE SUBSIDY.

SO WHEN WE DO HAVE APPLICANTS WHO ARE AGREEING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND AND PROVIDE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS, WE CAN ACTUALLY ENHANCE THE AWARD THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THEM THROUGH THE RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, OKAY.

I'VE ASKED HIM, UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL REALLY VERY GOOD.

I, I GUESS I'M BACKING UP A LITTLE BIT, UM, AND ASKING A THRESHOLD QUESTION.

IF, IF I WANT TO ACCESS THESE VARIOUS FUNDING STREAMS, DO I HAVE TO DO ANY COC AT ALL, OR DO I ONLY HAVE TO DO COC IF I WANT TO ACCESS THE SUBSIDIES? SO, BUT WE ARE NOT, WE ARE NOT REQUIRING IN OUR R H D A PROGRAM OR NOT REQUIRING THAT FOLKS DO CONTINUUM OF CARE.

THAT IS NOT A THRESHOLD REQUIREMENT.

YOU COULD STILL APPLY FOR FUNDING FOR THE RHD PROGRAM AND NOT INCORPORATE ANY COC UNITS IN THE PAST, CONTEMPLATED THAT, AND WE'VE DABBLED IN REQUIRING OR, UM, INCENTIVIZING PEOPLE TO INCLUDE A HANDFUL OF UNITS.

AND WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN WELL ALIGNED WITH SOME OF OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS.

UH, IT HASN'T BEEN INTEGRATED, UH, APPROPRIATELY WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENTS AND IT ULTIMATELY HAS NOT PROVEN SUCCESSFUL.

WE WANT TO FIND A WAY TO SET UP EVERYONE, INCLUDING TENANTS FOR SUCCESS.

HENCE THE IDEA OF PROVIDING THIS OPTION FOR YOU AGREE TO DO A MINIMUM OF 15 UNITS COC, AND WE WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND THE POSSIBILITY OF AN OPERATING SUBSIDY, WHICH WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES FOR THE OPERATING SUBSIDY, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING THOSE COC UNITS INTO DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE SET UP, UH, TO SUPPORT RESIDENTS, UM, W WITH, UH, WHO ARE EXPERIENCING CHRONIC PROBLEMS. OKAY.

SO, UM, THIS IS MAYBE A LONGER CONVERSATION.

SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS.

SO ONE CONCERN IS WHY WOULD A DEVELOPER EVEN CARE TO DO COC AT ALL? IF THEY WANT, IF THEY'VE ALREADY, IF THEY ALREADY HAVE AN INTENTION AND AN INTEREST IN DOING COC, THEN I CAN SEE THIS AS BEING VERY HELPFUL, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT GETS THEM OVER INTO THAT CATEGORY.

THE SECOND CONCERN THAT I, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS MORE OFFLINE, BUT THE SECOND CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT THERE ARE SOME, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS, WHO DON'T NEED, UH, DON'T NEED THE LEVEL OF SERVICES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S A GOOD NUMBER OF THEM, AND A LOT OF THEM DO NEED THAT, WHAT I WOULD CALL THOSE WRAPAROUND KIND OF SERVICES, BUT THERE ARE SOME THAT DON'T.

AND SO I AM CONCERNED A BIT, I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME THAT WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY NEED IS RENT, YOU KNOW, TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT A JOB I CAN'T DO FIRST AND LAST RENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS MAY HAVE NO IMPACT AT ALL.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER THIS APPROACH WILL HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE AVAILABILITY OF THOSE KINDS OF COC UNITS.

THAT'S ALL TIED UP WITH, UM, WITH HOW ECHO, UH, HOW ECHO DOES THEIR, UM, YOU KNOW, DOES THEIR SCREENING.

AND THERE, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST BLANKING ON THE WORD RIGHT NOW, THE COORDINATED ASSESSMENT, HOW THEY DO THE COURT ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IS WE DO A COORDINATED ASSESSMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE FOCUS OUR RESOURCES ON THE PEOPLE GREATER NEEDS, WHICH IS IMPORTANT, BUT THEN WE HAVE NO RESOURCE FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT DON'T HAVE WE PASSED, UH, UH, I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THIS BECAUSE WE PASSED A RESOLUTION LAST YEAR THAT, THAT, UH, IN THAT RESOLUTION THAT DEDICATED SOME LEVEL OF FUNDING FOR FOLKS THAT WERE NOT ON THE TOP END OF THE CEO OF THE COORDINATED ASSESSMENT IN RECOGNITION OF THOSE FOLKS, THAT ALL THEY NEEDED WAS ASSISTANCE TO GET INTO A UNIT AND THEY DON'T NEED SERVICES.

SO I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

I'LL CIRCLE BACK AROUND ON THAT AND HAVE A, ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH YOU ON THAT.

SO I'LL JUST ASK ONE MORE QUESTION ON A DIFFERENT TOPIC, AND THEN CHAIR, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION YOU CAN CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO YOU AFTER THAT.

BUT, UM, THIS QUESTION IS HOW DID THESE, HOW DO THE NUMBER OF HOW ARE WE RELATING ALL THIS TO OUR GOALS? UH, IN OTHER WORDS, UH, MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION, BUT, UM, I'M WANTING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE TRACKING THE ADDITIONAL UNITS TO OUR GOALS.

LIKE ONE OF THE EARLIER SLIDES LISTED THE ADDITIONAL UNITS, BUT IT DIDN'T GIVE ME THAT IN

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THE CONTEXT OF THE TARGETS AND THE GOALS THAT WE SET.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD SEE IN A DIFFERENT BRIEFING, OR HOW DO WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR TIMING IS PERFECT COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN? BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON OUR BLUEPRINT SCORECARD AS A CONTEXT, AND WE WILL BE, UH, SHOULD BE READY.

I DON'T WANT TO HARDEN FAST COMMIT, BUT SHOULD BE READY, UH, AT THE FEBRUARY, UH, TALKING AND PLANNING, UH, WHICH THAT I KNOW WE'RE PLANNING ON GOING TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IN JANUARY, UM, TO PROVIDE THE BLUEPRINT SCORECARD.

AND THAT IS OF COURSE BY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

IT'S LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT GOALS THAT WERE SET IN THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT AND WHERE WE ARE YEAR BY YEAR IN MEETING THOSE GOALS.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH HOUSING WORKS, UM, ON DEVELOPING THAT, UH, BEEN IN SOME OF THE MEETINGS WHERE WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT VARIOUS DRAFTS OF WAYS TO COMMUNICATE THAT INFORMATION.

SO I'M GOING TO SAY EARLY 20, 21, THAT'S MY KITCHEN.

I'LL, I'LL COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU.

UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND I'LL MENTION MY COUPLE OF POINTS AND THEN IN THE BACK TO YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THAT FEBRUARY MEETING, I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY EXCITING LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

UM, I, I HOPE THAT WE TELL, UM, THE, AS COMPLETE OF THE STORY AS WE CAN, RATHER THAN JUST A REPORT CARD, BECAUSE FROM THAT FIRST SLIDE, I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, 300 UNITS ARE GOING UP THIS YEAR BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE THINGS FUNDED BY YEARS PAST, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY FUNDING CLOSE TO LIKE 1500 UNITS IN THAT SAME YEAR, BECAUSE WE'VE SO INCREASED OUR, UM, OUR PRIORITY ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH OUR BOND AND WITH OTHER THINGS NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH A 300 MILLION ADDITIONAL ANTI-DISPLACEMENT DOLLARS, UM, COMING THROUGH THE CITY.

SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN, I, I, WHAT I EXPECT IS THAT COME JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, WE WILL STILL BE FAR SHORT OF THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LOW-INCOME UNITS THAT WE NEED.

AND WE SHOULD SHOW THAT AND BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

I THINK WE ALSO SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF LINE GRAPH THAT SHOWS THAT WE'RE HEADED TOWARDS OUR GOAL THREE OR FOUR TIMES FASTER THAN BEFORE, WHICH IS GOOD, BUT MAYBE IT WILL SHOW THAT WE ACTUALLY NEED TO GO FOUR OR FIVE OR TIMES FASTER IF WE EVER WANT TO GET THERE.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN.

UM, MY, MY SENSE IS THAT THE STORY IS WE'RE STILL FAR SHORT OF THE GOAL, BUT WE'RE AT LEAST MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION A LOT FASTER THAN WE WERE JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW BY HOW MUCH, SO THAT'LL BE REALLY USEFUL TO SEE THAT PUT ALL TOGETHER.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

AND THANKS TO HOUSING WORKS ON THE COC UNIT QUESTION OR COUNCIL MEMBER.

DID HE HAVE, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON THAT POINT? UM, NO.

I JUST WANTED TO ASK QUESTIONS WHEN YOU GET THERE AND, UH, YOU CAN JUST RECOGNIZE ME.

OKAY.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

UM, TELLS REMEMBER KITCHEN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL KICK IT TO COUNCIL MEMBER AND NVIDIA HERE A MINUTE.

I'M BACK TO YOU.

SO ON THE CONTINUUM OF CARE UNITS, UM, I THINK I SEE EVERYONE'S POINT HERE HAS BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE ALL BEEN STRUGGLING WITH.

SOMETHING I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT.

MAYBE THE STAFF COULD COME BACK WITH IS ONE WAY OF ADDRESSING.

THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE EVERY APPLICANT SPRINKLE JUST A FEW UNITS THROUGHOUT, BUT THEN YOU MIGHT LOSE SOME OF THE EFFICIENCIES ON THE, WHERE OF THE SERVICES YOU NEED.

ANOTHER OPTION MIGHT BE INSTEAD OF REQUIRING IT OF EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPMENT OR OF NOT REQUIRING IT ON.

ANYONE IS US ACTUALLY REQUIRING THE STAFF IN EVERY ROUND OR EVERY TWO ROUNDS TO COME BACK WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE AGREED TO THE 15 UNIT MINIMUM AND THE SERVICES WHERE INSTEAD OF US NECESSARILY PUTTING IT ON IN THE PROCESS, US PUTTING IT BACK ON OUR STAFF, TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY COUPLE OF ROUNDS YOU'RE BRINGING US BACK.

SOME PEOPLE WHO'VE AGREED.

AND I THINK KIND OF BY PRACTICE, THAT'S SORT OF HOW IT'S WORKED IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS HERE, BUT IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE CAN FORMALIZE WHERE IF YOU'RE BRINGING BACK FIVE PROJECTS, INSTEAD OF TRUMP PUSHING HARD TO SPRINKLE FOUR OR FIVE UNITS AMONGST THE FIVE, WE MIGHT GET TO IT EVEN BETTER OUTCOME.

IF YOU BRING BACK THREE OF THOSE, WHERE ONE OF THEM IS AGREED TO 30 UNITS, AND TWO OF THEM HAVE AGREED TO 15 AND YOU CAN REALLY CONCENTRATE THE SERVICES AND THE ONES YOU NEED, AND YOU CAN SPREAD THE VOUCHERS AND THE RAPID REHOUSING TO SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LIST AS COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.

I SAID, SO MAYBE A WAY OF THINKING ABOUT IT IS TO FORMALIZE THE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT WE WANT IN THE ROUND, RATHER THAN NECESSARILY TRYING TO SQUEEZE IN SERVICES, MAYBE ON A DEVELOPMENT THAT ISN'T THE RIGHT ONE FOR IT.

SO MAYBE Y'ALL CAN THINK OF A WAY TO FORMALIZE.

I THINK WE'RE ALL TRYING TO GET TO THE SAME GOAL THAT WE WANT COC UNITS, AND WE WANT TO DEP THERE.

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UM, BUT MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SO BINARY AS TO IT'S REQUIRED ON ALL OF THEM, OR IT'S NOT REQUIRED ON ANY OF THEM.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER PLACE WE CAN GET TO.

UM, AND THEN THE VERY LAST THING I'LL RAISE IS I HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE CHANGE ON ZONING REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE WHILE IT MAKES SENSE THAT MAYBE WE DON'T WANT TO PUT A BUNCH OF DOLLARS INTO A PROJECT WHERE THERE ISN'T THE ZONING, YET YOU MIGHT CREATE THE OPPOSITE PROBLEM FOR THE DEPARTMENT WHERE SOMEONE COMES FORWARD FOR ZONING AND SAYS, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I'M GETTING THE MONEY OR NOT YET.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE OR NOT YET, BUT WE WANT TO BE ZONED.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE BEST WAY TO LAND IT IS TO JUST HAVE THE ZONING VOTE HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME AS THE FUNDING VOTE, RATHER THAN REALLY PUSHING PEOPLE TO COME TO US FOR ZONING AND, AND SAY THAT THEY'RE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEN IT NOT ACTUALLY BEING CLEAR WHETHER THEY ARE A PRIORITY ENOUGH FOR THE CITY OR NOT.

SO I'LL JUST RAISE THAT, THAT I THINK I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE ONE PROBLEM, BUT I WORRY YOU CREATE ANOTHER ONE.

IF YOU JUST REALLY STRICTLY SAY, GET YOUR ZONING DONE BEFORE, UM, BEFORE WE CAN LOCK IT IN.

I KNOW.

AND I HEARD IN THE PRESENTATION THAT, THAT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING MAYBE A LITTLE MORE NUANCED THAN THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD MESSAGE TO SAY, YOU'VE GOT TO GO GET YOUR ZONING AND THEN WE'LL TALK TO YOU LATER ABOUT, SO THAT'S MY LAST POINT THERE, COUNCILMAN TO, YES.

THANK YOU.

I'M ALLIE, UH, ON THE SCORE CARD, UH, ARE YOU GOING TO BE SHOWING, UH, ALL THE CONSTRUCTIONS IN EACH DISTRICT OR, AND WHAT KIND OF RESOURCES YOU ARE USING? AND I LIKE THE TIFF THERE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN EAST AUSTIN.

UM, WE, UH, IS THEY'RE GOING TO SHARE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE STILL HAVE AND, AND WHERE IT'S BEING DIRECTED TO.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER, THE SCORECARD IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT GOALS.

SO THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE HAVE FUNDED OR PRODUCED, UM, EACH YEAR THAT MEET THOSE CERTAIN CRITERIA, WHETHER IT'S PROXIMITY TO IMAGINE AUSTIN CENTERS AND CORRIDORS OR HIGH-FREQUENCY TRANSIT, UM, THOSE GOALS, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY COME BACK TO YOU WITH WHERE WE ARE WITH, UH, DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES, AS, AS JAMIE MENTIONED FOR OUR ART HBA AND O H D A, WE PULLED FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SOURCES, INCLUDING THAT HOMESTEAD PRESERVATION DISTRICT AT PUMPING THE TERRORS THAT YOU MENTIONED.

UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT $3.4 MILLION IN THAT CHURCH, UM, AND ANTICIPATE DEPENDING ON, ON DEMAND, A NEED, WE ANTICIPATE BEGINNING TO DEPLOY THAT THIS FISCAL YEAR.

GREAT CAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RECOGNIZED SOME OF THE PROPERTIES THAT, UH, SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE LANDED ARE JUST WAITING FOR RESOURCES TO DEVELOP.

SOME OF THESE GROUPS ARE REALLY GREAT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OUTSIDE OF THE KITCHEN.

YEAH.

I HAD A, UM, A QUESTION I GUESS, ABOUT THIS, THE ZONING, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH ZONING, AND I HEAR WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER CASSARA WAS SAYING.

IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE TO ME.

UM, MY OTHER SORT OF DEEPER QUESTION RELATING, UH, RELATED TO ZONING IS I I'VE, I'VE MET, I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, BUT, UM, WE DON'T REALLY, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, THE BENEFIT OF ANY KIND OF, UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF AN ASSESSMENT OR, UH, THE EXPERTISE FROM, FROM YOU ALL, UH, IN TERMS OF WHETHER WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAKES SENSE FROM AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PERSPECTIVE.

UH, IN OTHER WORDS, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO INTERNAL EXPERTISE.

UM, MY INTERNAL, I MEAN, SOMEONE WHO IS WORKING FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UM, EXPERTISE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE, UM, THE ARRANGEMENT OR ACTUALLY IT'S A DEAL THAT'S PRESENTED TO US AROUND ZONING IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE OR REALLY IS THE BEST THAT WE STRUGGLE WITH THAT ALL THE TIME AS COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT CAN BE FIXED ENTIRELY BY SOME KIND OF ASSESSMENT, BUT IT COULD BE HELPFUL.

YOU KNOW, WE DO THINGS LIKE WE HAVE TIA IS TRAFFIC IMPACT ASSESSMENTS.

WE HAVE OTHER KINDS OF ASSESSMENTS AT LEAST GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE BASED ON BEST PRACTICES OF WHAT REALLY CAN BE DONE.

AND, UM, AND, AND, UM, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT KIND OF, WE DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT KIND OF ANALYSIS PRESENTED TO

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US DOING ZONING CASES THAT RELATE TO, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONE PIECE OF THAT IS UNDERSTANDING LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER, CASSARA TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH BETWEEN AVAILABLE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE, BUT THE OTHER ASPECT OF IT IS JUST, IS THAT, IS THAT REALLY THE BEST DEAL THAT WE CAN GET LOOKING AT THE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE RANGE OF, OF THINGS THAT ONE NEEDS TO LOOK AT, AND EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL HAS VARYING PERSPECTIVES AND VARYING LEVELS OF EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE THEMSELVES.

UM, AND IT WOULD JUST HELP ALL OF US, I THINK, TO, TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT KIND OF INFORMATION.

SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT MIGHT BE DONE.

UM, AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING I'VE BEEN INTERESTED IN FOR AWHILE.

AND I THINK COULD GIVE US SOME MORE, PERHAPS GIVE US SOME MORE CERTAINTY, PERHAPS GIVE US SOME MORE, UM, CONSISTENCY, UH, PERHAPS PRODUCE A BETTER RESULTS ACROSS ALL OF OUR, UH, CASES WHERE WE STRUGGLE WITH, UM, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GETTING SUFFICIENT, UM, AFFORDABILITY IN THE HOUSE.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO END THIS JUST TO REQUEST FOR YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

FIRST OF ALL, IT'S MR. TARIFF.

I MIGHT JUST ADDRESS THAT BRIEFLY.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY INTERESTING POINT AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS AS WE HAVE MOVED TOWARDS THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT MERGER.

AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY MUCH ON OUR MIND AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT IN THAT I DON'T HAVE A GOOD SOLUTION FOR IT YET, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE CAN WORK TOWARDS AND, AND, AND DISCUSS AMONGST THE HOUSING AND PLANNING STAFF ABOUT HOW WE CAN PRESENT, YOU KNOW, AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ANALYSIS ON THINGS THAT CONTAIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RIGHT, OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

SO LET'S LET US DO SOME, SOME THINKING ON THAT AND GET BACK TO YOU.

AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE AGREEMENT WITH THAT AT THAT POINT, IT'S ACTUALLY ON AND OFF FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS.

AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF BIG CASES WHERE I THINK SOME JUST OBJECTIVE DATA WAS BROUGHT FORWARD, BUT WE HAD TO BRING IN, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO PAY THE CONSULTANTS WHO ARE GOOD FOLKS, BUT AREN'T IN HOUSE.

UM, AND, UM, AND HAVING THAT, UH, ECONOMIST EXPERTISE ON HPD STAFF, I THINK COULD BE REALLY USEFUL, UH, BECAUSE WE CLEARLY HAVE THAT EXPERTISE AND IT'S, YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS PRESENTATION, HOW IT'S BECOME MORE AND MORE HELPFUL TO HAVE OUR STAFF NEGOTIATE THOSE DEALS WHEN WE'RE PROVIDING FUNDING.

UM, BUT I THINK WHEN IT'S FUNDING AND ENTITLEMENTS, OR EVEN ENTITLEMENTS WITHOUT FUNDING, UM, THERE'S A SIMILAR ANALYSIS THAT CAN BE DONE.

AND AGAIN, COUNSEL CAN AGREE OR DISAGREE OR DECIDE TO BE MORE RISK AVERSE OR, OR PUSHIER.

UM, UH, BECAUSE WE, WE DO THAT ALL THE TIME ALREADY WITH THE PROFESSIONAL ADVICE WE GET, BUT IT COMES UP SO OFTEN THAT I DO THINK THAT IT IS, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S GLARINGLY MISSING FOR US DOWN TO SOMEONE THAT IS SEEN AS THE EXPERT IN THE CITY, GIVING US THEIR ANALYSIS, AND THEN WE CAN APPLY A VALUE JUDGMENT.

I AGREE.

THANK YOU.

VICE CHAIR, ELLIS.

SORRY.

I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN AS HER HAND UP TOO.

SO WE MAY NEED TO GO BACK TO HER.

UM, UH, NO, I CAN WAIT, BUT I HAD A DIFFERENT SUBJECT.

SO GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

UM, I'M LOVING THE CONVERSATION AROUND PROVIDING MATERIALS FOR US.

UM, I HAVE A NEWSLETTER COMING UP FRIDAY.

I WOULD LOVE TO INCLUDE THE SPEAK UP AUSTIN INFORMATION.

UM, SO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT I OR MY STAFF HAVE HAD SOME OF THAT.

UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO IT BY FRIDAY SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THAT AND MAKE SURE DA RESIDENTS HAVE A CHANCE TO, TO SEE THAT AND PROVIDE THEIR INPUT TOO.

UM, AND I AM ALSO LOVING THE CONVERSATION AROUND HOW TO BLEND ZONING AND THE FINANCING THROUGH HFC.

UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD CASES WHERE SOMETIMES WE'RE ALSO MEASURING NOT JUST THE AFFORDABILITY, BUT IF, IF THE ZONING STAYS THE SAME, I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF GRAPPLED WITH HOW ARE WE, UM, MONITORING THAT INFORMATION? YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE TRUSTWORTHY INFORMATION OF UNDERSTANDING? YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T DO THAT ZONING, THEN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SEE ON A SPECIFIC PROPERTY? SO I WOULD LOVE FOR THAT TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE PLAY BETWEEN THE FINANCING AND THE ZONING AND THE ZONING AND HOW THOSE WORK TOGETHER.

UM, AND I'VE ALSO BEEN INTERESTED IN THE, THE APPLICATION OF STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE VMU ZONING.

SO WE JUST HAD ONE WHERE THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF, YOU KNOW, ADDING THE V OR NOT.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT, ESPECIALLY AS IT APPLIES TO AFFORDABILITY ON LOCKS AND HOW, HOW WE CAN BEST USE ALL OF THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US.

UM, SO I'VE BEEN REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT THAT AND I THINK THE MERGING, UM, AND CREATING THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS A REALLY COOL OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY BE WEIGHING A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS AND, AND, AND ANALYSIS MOVING FORWARD.

SO I LOVE TO HEAR

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THAT Y'ALL ARE THINKING ABOUT THAT AND, UM, WE'D LOVE TO EITHER HELP WORK THROUGH THAT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, UH, WHILE WE'RE ON BREAK TO, TO REALLY SEE HOW WE CAN BEST ENFORCE THESE TOOLS AND ASSESSMENTS.

YEAH.

THERE'S THAT, THAT RECENT CASE THAT I THINK I KNOW WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND NUTS, THAT'S WHAT SPARKED THIS MOST RECENTLY IN MY MIND AS WELL.

UM, AND SO WE'LL, UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING SOME STAFF TOGETHER TO REALLY START DIGGING INTO THIS, UM, PROBABLY LIKELY AFTER THANKSGIVING.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

SO EVERY KITCHEN, DID YOU HAVE ONE LAST POINT BEFORE WE HEAD TO THE LAST ITEM? YEAH, JUST A QUICK, UM, I I'M CURIOUS WHETHER THE HOUSING ASSESSMENT THAT WILL BE, OR NOT HOUSING ASSESSMENT, I'M SORRY, THE, UM, UM, THE SCORECARD AND THAT INFORMATION THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IN THE SPRING.

UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE GOALS ALSO RELATED TO, UM, HOUSING FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.

AND SO I WOULD BE