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I'VE AND I'M

[Call to Order]

STARTING TONIGHT ZONING MEETING.

AND IF EVERYBODY ELSE WE'RE HAVING SOME COOKIE BACK UP THERE, UM, IT IS TODAY IS, UH, NOVEMBER 17TH, 2020.

AND, UM, FIRST I'LL CALL ROLL COMMISSIONER.

AND IF YOU COULD JUST SAY HERE, THAT WOULD TAKE GREG.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER GEARY HERE.

COMMISSIONER VICE OR VICE CHAIR.

BERRERA RAMIREZ HERE.

COMMISSIONER BRAY, COMMISSIONER BRAY HERE.

OKAY.

GREAT COMMISSIONER.

DINKLER COMMISSIONER DANCLER COMMISSIONER DECLARE SHE JUST, YEAH.

GOOD.

I'M GOING TO I'LL COME BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER.

DANCLER I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE, AND UM, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN, COMMISSIONER EVANS, COMMISSIONER KING HERE.

AND I'M HERE.

COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER.

CABASA COMMISSIONER RAY AND COMMISSIONER SMITH HERE.

AND, UH, BACK TO COMMISSIONER.

DID SHE JUST DISAPPEAR AGAIN? COMMISSIONER DINKLER I'M HERE.

OH, YOU'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF MY BRADY BRUNCH SCREEN.

THAT'S GREAT.

OKAY.

AND NOW FOR THE AGENDA AND TONIGHT'S AGENDA

[Reading of the Agenda]

IS A ONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020.

AND THAT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

B ZONING C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE ONE SIX DASH ONE DASH ONE.

OH, UM, I THINK THAT'S DASH ONE OH THREE OH FOUR, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A DASH OR IF THAT IS FOR THE ADDRESS ONE.

OH, IT IS ONE OH THREE OH FOUR.

UM, SO, UH, JUST C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE ONE SIX, UM, ONE OH THREE OH FOUR OLD SAN ANTONIO ROAD.

AND THE STAFF IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 5TH FIRST.

SO THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

B TWO REZONING C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO NINE ZERO JOHNNY MORRIS ROAD, REZONING.

UM, THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM B THREE ZONING C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE ONE SEVEN.

I MEAN ZERO ONE, ONE, ONE VINEYARD CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP OF AUSTIN, TEXAS INCORPORATED.

A NEIGHBORHOOD IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 15TH IN THE APPLICANTS AND IN AGREEMENT.

SO THAT POSTPONEMENT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE REZONING SEE 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO SIX 7,700 PARMER.

AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL OF, UM, FOR THE STAFF, FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

AND THEN C5 PRELIMINARY PLAN C H J DASH 2018 DASH ZERO ONE FIVE ONE WHISPER VALLEY VILLAGE ONE PHASE THREE AND PHASE FOUR.

AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL OF, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THEN B SIX PLAT VACATION, C EIGHT DASH 89 DASH ZERO ONE ZERO 4.08 AND THEN IN PARENTHESES VAC.

AND THAT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR STAFF APPROVAL FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

AND SO I WILL GROUP ALL THESE

[Consent Agenda]

AGAIN, AND THAT IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS, OR RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL IS OF THE MINUTES, A ONE.

AND THEN FOR B ONE STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO DECEMBER 1ST, B3 POSTPONEMENT FOR DECEMBER 15TH AND BEFORE THROUGH B6.

NOW, IS THERE A MOST TO, OKAY, COMMISSIONER? I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, THE MINUTES FROM THE AGENDA, THE MINUTES THEMSELVES ARE CORRECT, BUT ON THE AGENDA THEY'RE LISTED AS NOVEMBER 3RD.

DOES THAT MEAN WE NEED TO, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT OR I'LL JUST STATE IT FOR THE RECORD? OKAY.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE, FOR THE AGENDAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF NOVEMBER THE FOURTH,

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THE MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON NOVEMBER 4TH.

OKAY.

SO JUST LET IT READ THAT FOR THE MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER FOUR.

THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.

HOW CAN WE FORGET? OKAY.

IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DENTLER, SECONDED BY ANYBODY, COMMISSIONER SMITH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND COMMISSIONER EVANS, COMMISSIONER EVANS.

ARE YOU RAISING YOUR HAND? OKAY.

UM, I AM VIDEO.

YEAH, I, I HAVE A DELAYED, UM, THAT ACTUALLY THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONER EVANS, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A DELAYED VIDEO TOO.

I SEE MY MOUTH MOVE AND IT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING.

UM, OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

IT'S A UNANIMOUS AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THANK GOODNESS.

WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS, FOR THIS LITTLE TECHNICAL ISSUE.

OKAY.

OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, OUR ONLY ITEM IS THE B2

[B.2. Rezoning: C14-2020-0090 - Johnny Morris Road Rezoning; District 1]

REZONING AND, UM, STAFF MEMBER, SHERRY SERVE.

LADIES, CAN YOU, UM, UH, WE'LL GO TO YOU FIRST.

HELLO, MADAM CHAIR.

THIS IS WENDY RHODES.

I WILL BE FILLING IN FOR SPERRY TONIGHT.

OKAY.

OH, OKAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

I WAS WONDERING WHY WE WERE DOING A SOUND CHECK ON YOU, BUT OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY, THANKS.

SO, UM, I WOULD, I WILL GIVE THE STAFF A PRESENTATION ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

THIS REZONING, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED S F TWO.

IT IS UNDEVELOPED AND, UH, TO THE NORTH, THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TO THE EAST ACROSS JOHNNY MORRIS ROAD.

THERE IS ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY ROAD, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWN AS COLONY PARK, UH, TO THE SOUTH IS A, UH, APARTMENT APARTMENTS ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED AND TO THE WEST IS ALSO PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE APPLICANT AND HAS, UH, THREE TELECOMMUNICATION TOWERS ON IT.

AND AN ASSOCIATED BUILDING.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL MIXED USE, AND THEY HAVE, UH, ADDED A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, UH, RECENTLY THAT PROHIBIT SEVERAL USES THAT ARE LISTED ON PAGE TWO.

THEY'RE BASICALLY AUTO-RELATED USES EXTERMINATING SERVICES, PAWN SHOPS, AND, UM, DRIVING SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT.

UH, AND THEY'VE ARRIVED AT THAT YOUTH WITH DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COLONY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE STAFF HAS A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION OF L O M U.

UM, THIS PROPERTY ONLY HAS FRONTAGE ON JOHNNY MORRIS AND, UM, THE STAFF FEELS THAT, THAT THE OFFICE MAKES A BETTER TRANSITION BETWEEN THE COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND THE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE NORTH THAT THE EAST, UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO, TO PRESENT THE CASE AND DISCUSS THEIR REQUEST.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE, UM, WE HAVE THE APPLICANTS AND I'M JUST GETTING, GETTING TO MY SCREEN, THE LITTLE, THE SPEAKER LIST.

SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, VICTORIA HOUSEY.

ARE YOU READY? UM, AND YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES.

YES.

COMMISSIONERS.

I'M READY FOR THE PROPERTY IN THERE.

LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF YOU.

YES, WE DO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO THIS MAP, THIS MAP IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE SOME REGIONAL CONTEXT FOR THE LOCATION OF THE TRACK.

THE SUBJECT TRACK IS OUTLINED NEAR THE CENTER OF THE MAP AND KIND OF A BLUE, GREEN COLOR IT'S SANDWICHED BETWEEN ED LEUCINE BOULEVARD.

ALSO KNOWN AS HIGHWAY ONE 83 AND DECORATE LANE.

AND IT'S JUST NORTH OF LOYOLA LANE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IT HAS MORE THAN 550 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON JOHNNY MORRIS ROAD.

AND IT'S GREEN UNDEVELOPED LAND.

THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT TRACK IS ALSO OWNED BY OUR CLIENTS AND HAS AN INDUSTRIAL USE WITH THREE CELL PHONE TOWERS THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR MORE THAN 25 YEARS IMMEDIATELY.

WEST OF THAT PROPERTY IS THE SOUTH WALNUT CREEK HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

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SO THIS MAP GIVES CONTEXT FOR THE PROPERTY AS IT RELATES TO MATCH KNOCKS AND CENTERS, COURT ORDERS AND CAPITAL METRO BUS STOPS, WHICH SHE SEE IN RED.

THE TRACT IS LOCATED IN THE COLONY PARK STATION, UH, OF THE IMAGINE AUSTIN NEIGHBOR, WHICH IS AN IMAGINE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.

AND THAT'S NOT THE NEIGHBORS CENTERS ARE INTENDED FOR A MIX OF NEIGHBORHOOD.

SERVING USES CONCENTRATED ON SEVERAL BLOCKS OR AROUND ONE OR TWO INTERSECTIONS AND THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT TRACK, UH, AT THE INTERSECTION OF LOYOLA LANE AND JOHNNY MARSH ROAD HAS GRMA ZONING.

AND IT'S CURRENTLY BEING DEVELOPED TODAY AS THE LOYOLA LAW WITH FOUR STORIES, 204 DWELLING UNITS AND 2200 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE ASSETS.

THAT PROPERTY IS A LOST OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMERCIAL USES FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE AND FURTHER WEST OF LEO.

THE LOSS IS 252 DWELLING UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX CALLED PARK PLACE THAT LOYOLA, AND THEN THERE'S BARBARA JORDAN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LOCATED NEARLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT TRACK, THE ONLY EXISTING COMMERCIAL SERVICES AVAILABLE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREAS OF FEELING A CONVENIENCE STORE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AT LOYOLA LANE.

MY POINT HERE IS THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THIS AREA AND MORE PEOPLE COMING TO THIS AREA, INCLUDING SCHOOL STAFF, UM, THAT COULD BENEFIT AND, UH, SOME COMMERCIAL SERVICES TO WALK TO.

THERE AREN'T ANY FOR THEM TO WALK TO CURRENTLY, UH, D ARE BASED ZONING ON DISTRACT AND TO MAKE UP FOR LOST OPPORTUNITY OF OTHER TRACKS THAT HAVE, UH, THAT DON'T HAVE COMMERCIAL SERVICES IN THIS AREA.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, COMMUNITY COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL MIXED USE, OR AS WE KNOW, A GR IN USE ZONING IS REQUESTED FOR THIS SITE AND CONGRUENT WITH THE PURPOSE STATEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

THIS PROPERTY IS VERY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE INTERSECTION OF LEILA LANE AND JOHNNY MORRIS ROAD.

THE PROPERTY IS WELL SITUATED TO PROVIDE COMMERCIAL SERVICES THAT WILL BE EASILY ACCESSIBLE TO MANY OF THE LOCAL RESIDENTS, EMPLOYEES OF BARBARA JORDAN ELEMENTARY, AS WELL AS THE PARENTS OF THE STUDENTS.

ADDITIONALLY DEVELOPMENT HERE WILL CONTRIBUTE THE MUCH NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE FOR MOBILITY OF ALL TYPES.

THE MIXED USE COMBINING DISTRICT IS REQUESTED TO MAINTAIN THE ABILITY TO PLAY FOR RESIDENTIAL USES WITH COMMERCIAL USES IN THE FUTURE.

ALTHOUGH THIS IS NOT EXPRESSLY PROPOSED AT THIS TIME AS THE PROPERTY IS IN AN IMAGINED AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, THE FLEXIBILITY SHOULD BE GIVEN TO ALLOW FOR INCREASED DEVELOPMENT AND DENSITY AS THIS AREA GROWS.

AND THE MARKET SUPPORTS THE EVOLUTION OF A FULLY FUNCTIONING NODE FOR THIS AREA.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

YEAH, CURRENTLY A TWO LANE UNIMPROVED ROADWAY WITHOUT SIDEWALKS ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE, THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN CALLS FOR EXPANSION OF THE ROADWAY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TRAVELINGS RES MEDIUMS, BICYCLE FACILITIES AND SIDEWALKS.

AND AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN, THE SUBJECT TRACTOR WILL HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE RIGHT AWAY FOR THOSE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS AND THE PROPERTY THAT'S, UH, DEVELOPING TO THE SOUTH OF THIS TRACK RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION.

UM, THEY DID HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE RIGHT AWAY AND WE'LL BE, UH, HELPING TO COMPLETE SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY AND FOUND THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COMMERCIAL SERVICES THAT THEY CAN WALK OR TAKE A SHORT DRIVE TO.

UH, HOWEVER, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD SOME CONCERNS FOR A FEW UNWANTED USES OF WHICH WE HAVE REQUESTED THOSE BE PROHIBITED IN A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORTS THE REZONING REQUESTS.

WITH A LETTER THAT'S IN YOUR BACKUP.

UM, AND AS YOU HEARD, STAFF RECOMMENDS ELO AS THE BASE ZONING FOR THIS SITE.

AND WHILE ELLA PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OFFICE USES, THAT COULD BE USEFUL IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THOSE USES EXPRESSIVELY DESIRED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE NEIGHBORHOODS NEED FOR COMMUNITY SERVING COMMERCIAL USE AS FAR OUTWEIGHS THE NEED FOR OFFICE USES AND THE GR ZONING DISTRICT WILL ALLOW THE COMMERCIAL USES AND WILL ALSO LEAVE THE FLEXIBILITY FOR OFFICES NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO IN SUMMARY, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE REQUESTING YOUR SUPPORT FOR GRM YOU FOR THIS SITE, AS IT IS SUPPORTED BY THE IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE COLONY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

SO I YIELD ANY REMAINING TIME TO RUN THROUGH HER.

I'LL PASS THAT OVER.

THANK YOU.

AND RON, ARE YOU THERE RON THROWER? UM, JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT, UH, FROM A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT I THINK THAT, UH, WE ALL NEED TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS ON ZONING, ANYTHING FOR OFFICE ONLY IN THE FUTURE, UH, WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING DURING THE PANDEMIC, WHAT I'M PERSONALLY EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW IS, AND I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT IS WHAT IS AN OFFICE FOR THE FUTURE.

AND I THINK A LOT OF BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE DOING THE SAME THING.

AND I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE RELEGATING PROPERTIES

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TO OFFICE ZONING, THEN WE ARE, WE'RE DEFINITELY PUTTING THEM IN A POSITION WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK AGAIN IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, ASKING FOR A REASON.

RIGHT? AND SO, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE SITUATION ON THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.

THAT'S IMPLIED THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, WHERE WE HAVE LOST OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, CURRENT GRS ZONING.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE THE USES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT GR ZONE IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST.

AND WE'VE RUN THAT BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY HAVE LOOKED AT THE USES AND THEY'D COME UP WITH WHAT THEY WANT AND WHAT THEY DON'T WANT.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE PALETTE OF USES THAT WE CAN BRING TO THEM FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND, UH, BOTH VICTORIA AND I ARE AVAILABLE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND NOW I KNOW THAT ZENOBIA JOSEPH IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AS NEUTRAL AND XENOPHOBIA.

YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES REMINDER, SELECT STAR SIX IS AN OBI.

YOU SHOULD HIT STAR SIX.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR MEMBERS.

I'M SYNOVIA JOSEPH.

I WAS MUTED TALKING TO MYSELF.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

UM, MY COMMENTS ARE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AS YOU JUST HEARD.

WELL, I CERTAINLY RESPECT THAT THEY'RE WANTING MORE DENSITY.

I WOULD JUST CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION AS I DO OFTEN, UH, TO LOOK AT TRANSIT.

SO BEFORE THERE'S ACTUALLY, UH, INCREASED DENSITY, I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT WELL, PROJECT CONNECT PAST THAT WILL DO NOTHING TO IMPROVE THE BUS SERVICE IN THIS AREA.

IT'S A 60 MINUTE BUS ROUTE.

I DID SEND YOU A COPY OF THE SCHEDULE.

I WANT YOU TO SEE THAT THE RUNTIME ON THIS PARTICULAR ROUTE TWO, THREE, THREE HAS FOUR HOURS, LESS THAN ROUTE 30 WALSH CHARLTON, WHICH RUNS EVERY 30 MINUTES FROM FIVE TO APPROXIMATELY 11 AT NIGHT.

I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL THAT CAPITAL METRO CHANGES THEIR BUS SERVICES EVERY THREE TIMES A YEAR.

SO TRI ANNUAL, UM, THEY ACTUALLY CHANGED THEIR LAST BUS SERVICES ON AUGUST 16TH, 2020.

AND AT THAT TIME THEY ACTUALLY IMPROVE SOME OF THE ROUTES TO 12 MINUTE HEADWAY.

SO I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER THAT YOU HAVE A 60 MINUTE BUS ROUTE THAT PREDOMINANTLY SERVES THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN COLONY PARK AND THE HISPANIC THAT GO TO BARBARA JORDAN EVERY 60 MINUTES.

AND THAT RUNTIME IS VERY CONDENSED.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE SEVEN IN THE MORNING, HE CAN NOT GET TO WORK, SO THEY DON'T HAVE EQUITABLE BUS SERVICE THERE, YOU HAVE FOUR HOURS MORE RUNTIME ON THE ROUTE THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE SERVICE AREA, WALSH CHARLTON 30, UM, IS THE NUMBER OF THE BUS THERE.

AND I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND HOW EGREGIOUS THIS IS.

IT'S AN EQUITABLE, IT'S A TITLE SIX ISSUE.

AND SO I WOULD CERTAINLY WELCOME REZONING AT A LATER POINT WHEN CAPITAL METRO MAKES A COMMITMENT TO DO MORE THAN LIP SERVICE, AS IT RELATES TO THESE ROUTES IN THE BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVELY BLACK, BUT COLONY PARK PREDOMINANTLY IS BLACK.

BARBARA JORDAN IS PREDOMINANTLY HISPANIC STUDENTS.

I KNOW THE AREA WELL, I USED TO TEACH THERE.

AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHATEVER YOU GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, I WOULD SAY I GO WITH THE L O M U, WHICH IS WHAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDS.

I WILL NOT GO WITH GR BECAUSE YOU THEN RUN INTO THE ISSUE OF SERVICE STATIONS AND, UM, THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND THE SAME THINGS THAT I'VE SAID.

UM, PEOPLE OF COLOR, BLACK PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR DESERVE MORE THAN THOSE USES.

AND SO IF IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT, UH, PUTTING AN OFFICE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN I THINK THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROPRIATE.

AND SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

I ALSO BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION, JULY 27, 2020 IS WHEN, UH, YOU WILL SEE THE $7 BILLION ESTIMATE FOR PROJECT CONNECT.

AND IT IS ACTUALLY HIGH CAPACITY TRANSIT, WHICH FOCUSES ON COMMUTERS.

AND SO IT'S $60 MILLION FOR NINE PARKING RIDES, AND YOU HAVE APPROXIMATELY THREE XPRESS ROUTES AND ONE TRANSIT CENTER, AND THERE'S ONLY 0.02% FOR NEIGHBORHOODS CIRCULATORS.

AND SO I JUST WILL CLOSE THERE AND JUST WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT THAT TRANSIT IS IMPORTANT.

NOT JUST DENSITY.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL GLADLY ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, SYNOVIA.

AND NOW, UM, RON AND VICTORIA, YOU WILL HAVE, UM, THREE MINUTES TO, FOR REBUTTAL,

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IF YOU WISH TO CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES.

OKAY.

I CAN HEAR YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO CALL ATTENTION.

UM, I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND, UH, WHERE, UM, MS. JOSEPH WAS COMING FROM ON THE TRANSPORTATION MATTERS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SITE IS ONLY GONNA HELP PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE MUCH NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BENEFIT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS COMMUNITY, AND ADDITION AIR.

NOW, PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE IN THIS AREA, THEY HAVE TO TRAVEL FOR ANY SERVICE.

UM, YOU KNOW, MRS. BARBARA, SCOTT, SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE EXPLAINED TO US THAT THEY HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO MUELLER TO GET GROCERIES, TO GET, TO FIND A DECENT GROCERY STORE.

AND SO THE MORE COMMERCIAL SERVICES WE CAN BRING OUT HERE, THE LESS SEATS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET IN A CAR AND, AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONGESTION.

THAT'S ALREADY ON THE ROADWAYS TODAY IN EAST AUSTIN AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

WE DEFINITELY AGREE THAT TRANSIT IS, IS A PRIORITY.

IT IS A MESS, AND THIS DEVELOPMENT CAN ONLY HELP, UM, WITH, WITH THOSE ISSUES AND THOSE MATTERS.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND NOW WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DANGLER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DUNCAN, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.

AND WE WILL WAIT FOR THE DELAY FOR COMMISSIONER EVANS.

SO THANK YOU.

THAT'S YOU NANA? OH, EXCEPT I CAN'T SEE COMMISSIONER BRAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSES, UNANIMOUSLY AND, UH, DISCUSSION OR EMOTION.

AND, UH, I, AND I'M GOING TO TAKE POSITION POSSESSION OF THE BALL, BUT I WILL, UNTIL I DO THAT, UM, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN TOMORROW HAVE POSSESSION.

OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? LET ME, FIRST OF ALL, SO NOW I'M GOING TO COMPLIMENT EVERYBODY ON THIS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT, UH, UH, MR. THROWER AND VICTOR AND VICTORIA, AGAIN, MADE AN EXTRA PRESENTATION, I REALLY LIKED THE WAY THEY PUT IT TOGETHER.

IT'S VERY UNDERSTANDABLE.

UH, AND I'M JUST AN OBS, ONE OF MY FAVORITE TESTIFIERS BECAUSE ANYBODY THAT KNOWS HER MY BEST SYSTEM, SHE DOES NOW AFTER SAYING THAT, UM, I'VE BEEN SORT OF FOLLOWING COMEDY PARK FOR SOME TIME.

CAUSE I THINK IT'S ONE OF OUR EFFORTS ON TRYING TO DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY, AT LEAST AUSTIN AND GLIBLY.

PARANTHETICALLY SAY THAT I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR THAT THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL HAS, IS INITIATING.

I MATCHED THE PLAN FOR ALL OF EAST AUSTIN, NORTHEAST AUSTIN COMING UP.

AND, UH, AND WHILE THIS WAS OUTSIDE OF COLONY PARK, UH, IT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT BECAUSE I THINK WHEN WE'RE REFERRING TO NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, THIS LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY, I'M NOT REALLY SURE IF IMAGINE AUSTIN TARGETED ON THAT PROPERTY, QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN THEY SAID NEIGHBORHOOD SPRINTER, BECAUSE THAT WAS A REALLY SMALL YELLOW BLOBS, IF YOU RECALL ON THE MAP.

UH, SO I TRIED TO LOOK DOWN AT YOUR BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, WITH TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, THIS PROPERTY IS ONLY A STONE'S THROW FROM THE GREEN LINE AND WE JUST VOTED $7 BILLION.

SO I WOULD IMAGINE THE GREENLAND IS GOING TO BE FAIRLY SOON THAT THE FUTURE, OKAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE TRANSPORTATION PART OF THE THING I WILL DEFER TO MY COLLEAGUE.

YEAH.

BUT IT STILL IS THERE.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE A STATION IS, PLAN HOW CLOSE TO IN ELEMENTARY YOU'RE AWARE.

BUT I WOULD IMAGINE SOMEWHERE IN THERE, ELLA, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ON AND OFF THE GREENLAND.

SO THAT, THAT IS A PART OF THE WHOLE ISSUE.

THE OTHER THING IS I AGREE THAT AREA.

I'M NOT SURE IF WE LOOKED AT THE APPROPRIATE PREVENTION OF NON-RESIDENTIAL ABUSES IN THIS AREA.

THAT'S WHY I THINK A MASTER PLAN IS, UH, TIMELY.

UH, I, BUT I STILL, I HAVE A GUT FEEL THAT THIS IS STILL A SPOT ZONING.

OKAY.

UH, AND, AND I REALIZED THAT ALL OF THE PROPERTIES NORTH ELDER TO THE SOUTH OF IT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASSIGNED OTHER, UH, UH, OTHER USES PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL OR SCHOOLS OR OFFICES.

UH, BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE? WELL, I RECALL IT PRETTY MUCH ALL VACANT FOREVER BROUGHT IT OVER, UH, THAT WOULD BE WHERE TO MAKE A SERIOUS EFFORT TO PUT A LEGITIMATE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER FROM A PLANNING POINT OF VIEW.

THEN

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I'M JUST SAYING, I GUESS I'M INTERESTED IN THE FULL DISCUSSION I WANTED TO GET STARTED.

SO I WANTED TO THROW SOME OF THESE THOUGHTS OUT, BUT I AGREE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS NON-RESIDENTIAL USAGE, THEY REDUCE THEIR X-RAY TRIPS AND ALL OF THAT.

I'M NOT SURE.

I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE COUNTY PARK PLAN AS FAR AS HOW IT ALLOCATES NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.

I REMEMBER THE BIG PARK IN THE MIDDLE.

IT'S ROUNDED FOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WILL BE RESTED ON RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES NEED THESE, UH, THESE FETUSES THAT ARE BEING PASSED FOR.

I'M JUST NOT SURE THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, UH, IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT IT.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M LEANING RIGHT NOW TOWARDS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

SO I'LL BE INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TO SAY ABOUT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HAD HER LITTLE ICON HAND UP AND THEN I'LL GO TO VICE-CHAIR BERRERA RAMIREZ.

THANKS AS THE D ONE COMMISSIONER, I WANT TO COME OUT IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANTS, UM, PROPOSAL FOR GMU HERE.

UM, I THINK THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE HERE IS WHAT DOES THE COMMUNITY WANT? AND THE APPLICANT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, IN TERMS OF ASSESSING WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

UM, FUNDAMENTALLY WE'RE HEARING THAT THERE ARE A SPECIFIC SET OF USES THAT THEY'RE SEEKING, UM, AND THIS STAFF RECOMMENDATION DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR THOSE USES.

UM, SO INTUITIVELY IT MAKES SENSE TO OFFER UP AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING RETAIL THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED.

UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER DUNCAN'S POINTS ON TRANSIT.

UM, I THINK THE KEY WORD TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION IS THAT WORD NODE.

UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AREA THAT IS GOING TO SEE A GREAT INCREASE IN TRANSIT SERVICE, UM, WITH THE ADVENT OF THE PROJECT CONNECT INVESTMENTS.

UM, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE GREENLAND COMING ONLINE IN THE LONG-TERM, BUT IN THE SHORT TERM, THE BEST RAPID TRANSIT, THE PURPLE LINE WILL HAVE AN INTERSECTION OR HAVE A MAJOR STOP, RIGHT AT LOYAL AND JOHNNY MORRIS.

SO WE NEED TO BE ADDING DENSITY.

WE NEED TO BE ADDING JOBS AND COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES ALL AROUND THAT AREA.

AND HAVING THAT WITH THIS PROJECT WITHIN A WALKING DISTANCE FROM A MAJOR TRANSIT CENTER, UM, WOULD BE A GREAT VICTORY, UM, TO MS. JOSEPH'S POINTS.

UM, CONTINUING TO ADD MORE JOBS AND SERVICES.

THERE WILL ONLY CREATE MORE DEMAND FOR TRANSIT SERVICE AS WELL.

SO THAT'S HOW WE GET MORE FREQUENCY WHEN WE SEE MORE PEOPLE RIDING THE BUS.

UM, SO THOSE ARE MY MAIN POINTS.

UM, I THINK JUST FROM A TRANSPORTATION AND EQUITY PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS A GREAT REZONING TO SUPPORT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THEN VICE-CHAIR BARRERA RAMIREZ, AND THEN I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER DANGLER, COMMISSIONER GEARY, AND THEN COMMISSIONER BRAY.

I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD BECAUSE COMMISSIONER RACE, I WOULDN'T JUST SAY SO.

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT SHE SAID.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER.

DECLARATION IS FOR STAFF.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT GR IS, UM, AND WHILE WE WILL GET TRANSIT THERE, EVENTUALLY WE'LL HAVE A LINE THERE.

UM, UH, IS THE SCALE.

UH, AND THIS IS GOING TO COMMISSIONER DUNCAN'S POINT OF VIEW BECAUSE I THINK HE'S COMING AT IT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE.

UM, I WANTED TO BROACH THE IDEA OF THE LR ON THE NORTH SIDE, BECAUSE IT ALLOWS MANY OF THE SAME USES AS GR THEY COULD HAVE A BANK THAT COULD HAVE MEDICAL OFFICES, PERSONAL SERVICES, PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT, RESTAURANT LIMITED.

UM, THEY COULD HAVE ALL OF THAT AND LR, AND THE SCALE IS PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM SINGLE FAMILY, FAMILY, AND CATTY CORNER TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

SO I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO ANSWER WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE BETWEEN, UM, UM, LR AND G R N L O N G R IF THEY COULD, WENDY, I COULDN'T FIND THE TABLE IN MY, UH, LAPTOP.

SO I'M HOPING YOU HAVE THAT.

YES, I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE.

SO THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LR AND G ARE, UH, AS, UH, FOR HEIGHT FIRST, UM, IT'S 40 FEET OR THREE STORIES UNDER LR, OR AS GR ALLOWS UP TO 60 FEET.

THAT'S TYPICALLY FOUR STORIES.

THERE ARE, UM, GREATER SETBACKS IN TERMS OF FRONT, FRONT YARD SETBACK.

SO 25 FEET AND LR 10 AND GR, UM, BUILDING COVERAGE IS 50% AND LR, 75% ARE GR.

UM,

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AND THEN THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS 0.5 TO ONE AND LR AND ONE-TO-ONE AND GR, AND THEN FROM BETWEEN ELO AND G G R A THERE'S DIFFERENT, IT'S STILL 40 STORY, 40 THEATER, THREE STORIES FOR HEIGHT, UM, AS IT IS AN LR AND EITHER THERE'S SOME INTERIOR AND REAR YARD SETBACKS THAT, THAT APPLY FIVE FEET.

UM, AND THEN IT'S, UH, LET'S SEE, I THINK THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCES.

SO IN, IN, IN ELO VERSUS GR IT'S PRIMARILY USES.

RIGHT.

BYE BYE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP, WENDY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU THEN COMMISSIONER GARY, UM, I SUPPORT CREATING COMPLETE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTS SO FAR AWAY FROM SERVICES OR ACCESS TO FOOD, WHATEVER IT THAT'S WORRISOME TO ME.

UM, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT SOMEBODY'S USES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.

FOR EXAMPLE, FUNERAL SERVICES BEING SO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL, AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO GRAPHIC, BUT ESPECIALLY YOU THOUGHT A SCHOOL CLOSE BY, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A FUNERAL SERVICE, UH, USE SO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL.

AND I NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT MORE.

LET ME KNOW.

UM, ALSO I WORRY ABOUT A DROP DROP-OFF RECYCLING COLLECTION TYPE USE BEING SO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL AS WELL.

THE ONE THAT I WAS VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHEN I WOULD GO DOWNTOWN WITH SAFA ABOUT 35 AND IT WAS ALWAYS TRASHY.

UM, SO I DON'T SEE ANYTHING NICE ABOUT THAT.

AND THE OTHER ONE THAT I WOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT IS A BAIL BOND.

SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE, SOME OF THE USES WOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO A HEALTHY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENT THERE, UH, WHEN, UH, I WOULD ASSUME THAT COULD BE ADDED TO THE CEO, UM, BUT I WILL GET THROUGH.

AND IF WE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OR WHATEVER, WE COULD ADD THAT TO WHAT THE, TO, UH, SEE THE, WHAT DO YOU THINK COMMISSIONER GARY'S? I WOULD, I WOULD APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION.

YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND THEN I WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER BROWN.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, EVERYTHING'S VERY SAD.

AND, UH, I WOULD ADD THAT IN TERMS OF LIKE THE TRANSIT, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS IN THE LONG VIEW THAT WHATEVER IS BUILT HERE IS GOING TO EXIST WHENEVER THE TRAIN THAT COMES IN.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I AGREE THAT THIS TRANS DURING OUR STUDY SUBPAR THERE, BUT JUST THE CHANCE TO IMPROVE AND, UH, UH, THE DENSITY AND THE TRANSIT ARE MUTUALLY SUPPORTING THINGS THAT, UH, ALLOWING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE DENSITY, THEY WILL ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO USE THE BUS.

AND THE MORE PEOPLE THAT USE THE BUS, THE MORE CAP METRO IS INCLINED TO CREASE SERVICE.

UM, AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE LINES GOING IN THERE, IT'S NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF TWO MAJOR ROADS.

IT SEEMS LIKE AN OBVIOUS SPOT TO ALLOW SOMETHING THERE.

AND I WOULD, I WOULD BE, UH, I WOULD ALSO LOOK AT IT AS A LOST OPPORTUNITY.

WHATEVER'S BUILT IS GOING TO LAST THERE FOR SEVERAL DECADES.

AND IF IT'S A LOWER DENSITY THAN WHAT WOULD BE IDEAL THERE FOR WHAT ALL IS GOING TO TRANSIT, THIS CAN EXIST THERE.

THAT WOULD BE BAD FOR THE TRANSIT.

SO I'M, I'M SUPPORTING, UH, THE, UH, APPLICANT'S RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

SO NOT RECOMMENDATION, BUT, UM, OF APPLICATION.

YEAH.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER SMITH.

AND THEN VICE-CHAIR, BERRERA RAMIREZ AND THEN COMMISSIONER KING AND THEN COMMISSIONER EVANS.

YEAH.

UM, I THINK MR. WRIGHT DID A GREAT JOB OF KIND OF SUMMARIZING WHERE I'M AT AS WELL.

UM, I WOULDN'T BE CURIOUS COMMISSIONER HERE.

YOU HAD SOME GOOD POINTS ON SOME OF THE USERS THAT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE, AND IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO HEAR FROM THE APP.

AND MAYBE IF YOU CAN, WE'LL SAY, WOULD AGREE TO ADD THOSE IN IS RESTRICTED SEVEN.

SO THOUGH EVERYBODY SPEAKS, MAY GET A CHANCE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, IF THEY WOULD AGREE TO AS LOW CEO'S, I WOULD SUPPORT THIS AS WELL FROM THE, WHAT THE APP CAN APPLY FOR.

OKAY.

THANKS.

AND THEN VICE CHAIR, BERBER RAMIREZ.

WELL, I'M CURIOUS, LOOKING AT THE LR ZONING, IT DOES FEEL MORE APPROPRIATE, AND IT DOES RESTRICT SOME OF THOSE SERVICES THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER WAS TALKING ABOUT.

SO I'M CURIOUS IF THE APPLICANT WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF AN LR.

HE'S NOT, OH, SORRY.

I MISSED THAT.

OKAY.

NEVERMIND.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER KING, COMMISSIONER EVANS, AND THEN COMMISSIONER DUNCAN.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UH, YOU KNOW,

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I, UH, TO ME, AGAIN, I BELIEVE THIS IS AGAIN LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER DUNKIN.

I WORRY THAT THIS IS LIKE SPOT ZONING AND WE DON'T HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN TO LOOK AT.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE PLANNING ON THE FLY AND, YOU KNOW, IN, IN ONE, YOU KNOW, 30 MINUTES OR AN HOUR, HOWEVER LONG WE HAVE HERE ON THIS CASE, AND IT JUST BOTHERS ME TO DO PLANNING THAT WAY.

WE HAVE NOTHING TO REFER TO AND IN TERMS OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS, I DON'T REALLY SEE A LIST OF USES.

THEY WANT, WHAT I SEE IS A LIST OF USES THEY DON'T WANT.

AND SO I CAN, THEY CAN, SOME THE APPLICANT MAY BE, OR THE STAFF HELP KIND OF CLARIFY WHAT USE IS SPECIFICALLY DO, DOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANT, AND THAT STAFF OR APPLICANT, OR BOTH IS, I DON'T SEE IT IN THE BACKUP.

ALL I SEE IS THAT THEY SUPPORT THE ZONING REQUEST AND WITH THE LIST OF VIEWED PROHIBITED USES IN ACO.

HI, I THOUGHT I SAW SOMETHING IN THE BACK IF I CAN'T REALLY ACCESS IT RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, YEAH, IT WAS ALSO IN THE PRESENTATION.

THERE WAS ABUSES.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED, THERE WAS A PASS.

YES.

OH, I MISSED THAT.

I'M SAYING LET'S BIKE REAL FAST.

I SOMEHOW I MISSED THAT.

AND WELL, CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THOSE USERS ARE AT RESTAURANT? ARE WE TALKING RESTAURANT? OKAY.

I'M GOING TO COME ACROSS THE COMMISSIONER DUNCAN.

HE CAN ANSWER THAT.

YEAH, WELL, RIGHT.

SHOP THE USERS, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON THAT LIST.

IT'S OFFENSIVE TO ME, BUT LET ME MAKE A COMMENT.

AND THIS IS EXACTLY LIKE I HAD HOPE IN LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUES, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A FELLOW, UH, AND, UH, CAUSE WE'VE GOT AN ISSUE ISSUE.

EXCUSE ME, LET ME TURN OFF THIS.

YEAH, I APOLOGIZE.

UH, I'M NOT GOING TO GET THIS FROM TWO POINTS, USE THEM INTENSIVELY.

UH, AND IN TERMS OF, UH, OF INTENSITY, UH, THE LR IS COMMISSIONER, UH, VICE CHAIR, UH, RIVERA SAID MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE.

IT MAKES IT A LOT MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I, I AM NOT TOO EXCITED ABOUT THE LIMITED UNITS SHE HAS TO OFFICES.

UH, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT SOME LIMITED RETAIL, BUT WHAT MAKES SENSE TO ME IS AS FAR AS THE INTENSITY, THE LR, IT'S SORT OF THE CHEETAH, WHICH IS HALFWAY IN BETWEEN WHAT IS REQUESTED AND WHAT IS BEING RECOMMENDED.

AND LET'S TRY A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

I MEAN, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THAT IS ONLY UNTIL WE'VE DONE A LIST OF LIKE A HUNDRED USERS AND WE TRY TO ELIMINATE EVERYTHING THAT'S OFFENSIVE TO US.

LET'S GO IN THE OPPOSITE WAY.

LET'S SAY THOSE NINE USERS.

AND I THINK THERE WERE EIGHT OR NINE ON THAT LIST THAT WAS SHOWING ME THE PRESENTATION THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE DEVELOPER HAVE AGREED TO.

ARE THEY USERS THAT SHOULDN'T BE PERMITTED? OKAY.

AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS NOT PERMIT BECAUSE IT IS A IT'S LIKE, BECAUSE IT WAS ABOUT 72 TO THE, UH, THE, THE OLDER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE NUMBER USAGE.

SO I THINK THIS DISCUSSION HAS GENERATED A DISTRICT CALCULATE WHAT I HAD HOPED IT WOULD.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT, I DON'T KNOW IF A MOTION, BUT, UH, LR, IF YOU, UH, AND I'M NOT LIMITED TO THE USES THAT, UH, MR. UH, UH, THROWER HAS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IS THAT A MOTION? OKAY.

AND, UM, AND IF THERE'S, THIS IS THERE A SECOND, BUT, AND NEXT I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO GO TO COMMISSIONER EVANS.

HE WAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK NEXT HOPE THIS AUDIO COMES THROUGH BETTER THAN THE VIDEO.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

MY ISSUE SAID TO JUST DO THE SPEED TEST AND I'M RUNNING OVER 200.

SO WHATEVER'S CAUSING THE PIT, UH, IF LR WAS A WORKABLE SOLUTION, THAT SEEMED LIKE THAT SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TAKEN A SHOT AT GOING IN.

AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF I CAN ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME AND SPEAK TO THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE ON LR TO SEE IF WE'RE HEADING DOWN A PATH THAT'S, THAT'S TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

AND IF IT IS WHAT THE REASONS ARE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER EVANS.

AND SO VICTORIA OR RON, ARE YOU THERE? UH, COMMISSIONERS RON TRAILER, UM, WANTED TO SPEAK ON SEVERAL OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP IF I MAY, UM, YOU KNOW, LR DOES PROVIDE A LEVEL OF COMMERCIAL .

THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SEEN, ER, BEING USED IN A MANNER THAT IN THE AREA THAT DOES NOT SUIT THEIR NEEDS.

AND WE HAVE SAT DOWN WITH THEM, UH, VIRTUALLY AND WORKED THROUGH THE ISSUES AND ULTIMATELY GOT THEIR SUPPORT FOR GR ZONING.

AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE USES THAT GR CAN BRING

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IN HERE, BUT TAILOR IT AS THEY HAVE PUT INTO THEIR LETTER.

AND VICTORIA HAD PROVIDED INTO THE PRESENTATION.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ADDITION OF ADDING A FUNERAL HOME IS A PROHIBITED USE.

SEE HOW WELL PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK A FUNERAL HOME WOULD GO ON THIS SITE.

FUNERAL HOMES EXIST ALL OVER AUSTIN ON CORRIDORS WITH SINGLE FAMILY DIRECTLY BEHIND.

AND, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL HAD JUST SAW AN ANALYSIS OF INDUSTRIAL LAND USE AND ZONING IN AUSTIN WHERE WE'RE LEAVING INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT FUNERAL HOMES JUST BY THEMSELVES, IF YOU LOOK AT FUNERAL HOMES, THEY CAN ONLY GO IN GR ZONING, DOWNTOWN, UM, TONING OR INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

AND I THINK THAT WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

AND WE'RE LOSING THE ABILITY TO PUT MANUFACTURING JOBS ON THE INDUSTRIALS.

ANYTHING WE HAVE.

SO NOW WE'RE RELEGATING FUNERAL HOMES TO BASICALLY INDUSTRIAL ZONE LAND, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THEM IN THE GR, BUT I THINK PERSONALLY THAT FUNERAL HOMES CAN EXIST FINE IN PROXIMITY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY HAVE FOR DECADES EXISTED THAT WAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE NOT JUST DECENTLY OPPOSED, LR IT'S.

UM, AND, AND I, UH, MR. DRUNKEN, I, I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE THAT THIS IS SPATONE WHEN WE HAVE GRS OUT NEXT DOOR TO US THAT'S TO THE SOUTH.

UM, IT'S NOT BEING USED AS GR THE NEIGHBORHOOD SEES THAT HAPPENING AND TIME AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING G OUR USERS TO THE AREAS THAT THEY HAVE SAID THAT THEY WANT.

AND WITH THAT I'M AVAILABLE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANKS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHO ELSE HAS SIGNED UP.

SO I SEE OLD LE I THINK THE OLD, SO COMMISSIONER DINKLER.

UM, AM I SPEAKING HERE? I GET A LITTLE CONFUSED MUTE, UNMUTE.

I THINK NUMBERS, MEANING AS I SEE LOYOLA AS THE QUARTER, I DON'T SEE JOHNNY MORRIS AS THE CORRIDOR.

I MEAN, WHEN YOUR PAVEMENT ON JOHNNY MORRIS IS A WHOPPING 30 FEET, UM, I DON'T SEE IT NECESSARILY AS A QUARTER.

UM, I DO KNOW IF WE DID LR AND RE DID, UM, GR WE WOULD BE PROVIDING THE EXTRA ROW AND THE SIDEWALKS.

SO I DON'T, I'M NOT TOTALLY, I HATE TO USE THAT WORD BUYING THE ARGUMENT.

AND I DO THINK MORE DENSITY WILL BE NEEDED IN THAT AREA BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO SERVE THE TRANSIT LINE.

I'M, I'M TOTALLY SYMPATHETIC TO THAT, BUT I REALLY CAUGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER DUNKIN'S COMMENTS WHEN HE SAID SOUTH OF LOYAL AND I WENT WHAM THAT'S THAT'S IT.

UM, I, I COULD SEE L R THERE, CAUSE IT COULD BRING THE USES THE NEIGHBORS WANT, WHICH GIVE, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A MIXED VIEWS IS THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT IF THEY GET A LEASE FOR A DOLLAR STORE FOR THAT, THEY GET A CONVENIENCE STORE OR A LEASE FOR DOLLAR STORE, IT STILL COULD POSSIBLY GO IN.

UM, BUT I DO GREATLY GREATLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A REAL DIALOGUE HERE, SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BRIDGE IT.

UM, SO I, I HAVE TO ADMIT THOUGH I AM LEANING MORE TO, UH, LR, UM, THAN I AM ON THE GR UH, I, UH, AND I THINK MR. UH, UH, THROWERS COMMENTS ON FUNERAL HOMES IS INTERESTING CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, ANGEL, UH, FUNERAL SERVICES, THE ONE ON 12TH, THE ONE ON LAMAR, UH, RIGHT NORTH OF THE UNIVERSITY.

I, I, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY THE SCHOOL FACTORS IN, BUT I KNOW THAT, UH, IS, MIGHT BE A DELICATE QUESTION.

SO THAT'S IT FOR ME.

OKAY.

AND COMMISSIONER SMITH DID USE, UH, RAISE YOUR LITTLE ICON HAND TO SPEAK.

OKAY.

THEN COMMISSIONER GARY.

OKAY.

SO, UM, A FUNERAL HOME ISSUE CAME UP, YOU KNOW, THE SONY CASE CLOSE TO WHERE ALIA AND WHAT HAPPENED IS UNBEKNOWNST TO ME, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER RESIDENT FOUND OUT THAT INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE ADJACENT TWO 18 REAL HOME KNEW WHEN A CREMATION WAS OCCURRING.

SO IN LIGHT UP A SCHOOL ELEMENTARY, MIND YOU BEING SO CLOSE TO THIS AREA AND RE KNOW RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT TO THIS AREA, I DON'T, THAT'S A RESET.

SO THE REASON WHY I AM OPPOSED TO A FUNERAL HOME, UM, BEING IN THAT CLOSE PROXIMITY TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, I CAN NOT IMAGINE ME WALKING MY

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GRANDCHILD TO SCHOOL.

AND THEN MY CH YOU KNOW, THAT GRANDCHILD ASKING, WHAT IS THAT SMELL? I DON'T WANT TO, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT I DON'T, I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE DEALING WITH.

AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUT, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALS IN THAT TYPE OF SITUATION.

THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER RAY, AND THEN COMMISSIONER EVANS.

THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THAT.

UM, WHAT ARE THE USES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN GR, BUT NOT AN LR? HELLO? CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SORRY.

I'VE, I'VE BEEN HAVING SOME ISSUES, UM, WITH THE PHONE.

UM, OKAY.

YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE USES THAT ARE THE USES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS, THAT ARE NOT PERMITTED IN LR, IS THAT CORRECT? DID I UNDERSTAND THAT? CORRECT.

WHAT IS THE UNIQUE VALUE OF HAVING GR WHICH IS LR IN RESPECT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS REQUESTS HERE? SO I BELIEVE PRIMARILY, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO EATERIES AND, AND RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, NOW MIND YOU, THIS DIDN'T COME UP DIRECTLY IN CONVERSATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT, UM, BASICALLY THE, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO AND WHAT THEY'VE ASKED FOR IS TO HAVE RESTAURANTS, HAVE PLACES TO WALK TO.

AND, UM, ACTUALLY, NO, IT DID COME UP NOW THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IT, IT DID COME UP, HAVE PLACES TO WALK, TO AND ENJOY A GLASS OF WINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE PERMISSIBLE IN LR.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT LR ALLOWS FOR RESTAURANT OPPORTUNITIES, BUT NOT WHEN THEY'RE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE THE PRIMARY REASON THAT I WOULD SAY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD USE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO NOT ALLOWED IN LR.

UM, BUT ALL THESE IS, THEY WANT BANKS, GROCERIES, EATERIES, PHARMACIES, LIBRARIES, BARBERSHOP.

SOME OF THOSE, A LOT OF THOSE ARE AVAILABLE IN THE ELARA ZONING DISTRICT.

YOU ARE CORRECT ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN I'LL GO ON TO COMMISSIONER EVANS, COMMISSIONER BRAY, AND I SEE A COMMISSIONER, UH, POSTA HAS BEEN TRYING TO RAISE THIS HAS BEEN RAISING HIS HAND AND APOLOGIES TO COMMISSIONER KOSTA.

I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE ICONS, UH, COMMITTEE CHAIR.

I THOUGHT I WOULD, UH, LET COMMISSIONER ACOSTA GO FIRST SINCE HE HAS BEEN RAISING HIS HAND FOR A LONG TIME, AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP AFTER HIM, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER EVANS.

UM, REALLY MY QUESTION WAS MORE OR LESS WHAT COMMISSIONER RAY HAD ASKED, WHICH WAS JUST, WHAT IS THE UNIQUE VALUE OF GR IN THE AREA AND TO A POINT EARLIER MADE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS KIND OF, IT TENDS TO ABUSE IT, IT SHOULD BE USED ON THIS SITE OR SOUTH OF LAYLA.

I THINK THE QUESTION I HAD WAS LIKE, WELL, WHAT INFORMATION DO WE HAVE OF SITES SOUTH OF LAYLA OR OF THE AREA IN GENERAL? I MEAN, IF PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WE'RE NOT SURE OF WHAT THE GENERAL LANDIS IS IN THE, IN THE, IN THE AREA ARE, SHOULD OR NOT.

I THINK THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THAT WE NEED TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF USES IN THE SITE IN QUESTION, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION BEFORE US SAYING THAT THERE IS MORE SPACE FOR THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.

WHAT IS PROPOSED RIGHT NOW? AND THERE IS THAT SPOT RIGHT NEXT TO IT, JUST SOUTH, JUST SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED LOT THAT IS ALREADY ZONE GR.

SO THAT WAS REALLY JUST THE CRUX OF IT IS THAT I THINK THAT IT'S CONSISTENT TO ALLOW FOR THE SAME TYPE OF ZONING TO EXIST ADJACENT TO THE OTHER.

AND THEN AT NIGHT, IF WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT DOLLARS OR ANYTHING OF THAT, I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONDITIONAL USES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD REQUESTED REMOVED.

UM, THAT WAS MY POINT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND APOLOGIES.

UM, I'VE GOT EVERYTHING ON A SCREEN, SO I'M REALLY ACTUALLY JUST LOOKING AT THE LITTLE ICONS AND BARELY SEEING ANY FACES.

UM, AND THEN NEXT COMMISSIONER EVANS.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

UH, FIRST QUESTION, DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE EMOTION IN PLACE? YES.

WHEN YOU DO MENTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER DUNKIN AND SECONDED BY, AND I FORGOT FOR L O C R L R C L R M U C O ZONING.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO OPERATE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, THAT MOTION BEING THAT WE, UH,

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EXCEPT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, WHICH IS THE VR, BUT THE STUDIO WITH AN END DATE OF, TO ADAMS, ALTHOUGH I THOUGHT ONE WAS ALREADY CLARIFIED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO DOLLARS TOURS AND BE WHOLE FUNERAL HOMES.

AND THAT COULD BE DONE ON EITHER ON THE, ON THE CEO OR WE COULDN'T DO IT THROUGH A, THE APPLICANT COULD DO IT THROUGH A PUBLIC RESTRICT COVENANT.

OKAY.

THERE A SECOND BEFORE COMMISSIONER EVANS, COMMISSIONER SMITH IS SECONDED AND I WILL GO NOW TO THE LITTLE ICON HANTZ AGAIN.

AND I SEE COMMISSIONER DENTLER.

YEAH.

I WANT TO ASK STAFF, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN PROHIBIT A DOLLAR STORE.

SO, UM, THIS SAW WENDY, SORRY.

I'M BLANKING TODAY.

IT WAS A LONG NIGHT LAST NIGHT.

UM, HOW DO YOU PROHIBIT A DOLLAR STORE? UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT ITEM? YES.

UH, WE, WE COULDN'T PROHIBIT A DOLLAR STORE.

WE COULD PROHIBIT THE OVERALL RETAIL SALES CONVENIENCE USE, BUT WE CAN'T PROHIBIT INDIVIDUAL TYPES OR INDIVIDUALLY NAMED STORES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE BY WAY OF A PRIVATE, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.

AND HAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGREED TO DO A PRIVATE REQUIREMENT? UH THAT'S FOR THE APPLICANT? THAT, THAT QUESTION.

YES.

NOT, IT WAS I'M SORRY.

HE, YES.

DIRECTED TO THE APPLICANT, COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONERS, RON THROWER HERE.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THEY HAVE I'M SORRY.

CAN, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES.

OKAY.

UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS AGREED THAT WE WILL DO A PRIVATE RESTRICTED COVENANT.

THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED THE PARTY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO A PRIVATE RESTRICTED COVENANT, AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY RELATING TO THE FACT THAT THEY DO NOT WANT ANY DOLLAR STORES IN THEIR AREA.

AND SO YES, WE ARE VOLUNTARILY PROHIBITING THAT IN COMPLIANCE TO THEIR WISHES.

AND AGAIN, JUST WANT TO POINT OUT WE HAVE A CASE BEFORE YOU TAILORED TO EXACTLY WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS, AND WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST POSITIVE OR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS.

THANK YOU.

HMM.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN NEXT IS, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, DID I GET TO YOU COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER KING AND THEN COMMISSIONER SMITH AND THEN COMMISSIONER EVANS.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UM, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE, UH, THE, THE, THE PREVIOUS LIST OF THE USES AT THE, THAT THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED.

AND I TRIED TO WRITE THEM DOWN.

THEY WENT BY SO QUICKLY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT MISSING ANYTHING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS.

AND I APOLOGIES FOR THAT.

I'M DRIVING.

I JUST, UH, I'VE GOT RESTAURANTS, BANKS, GROCERY STORES, BARBERSHOPS, AND I THINK THERE WERE A COUPLE MORE ITEMS. CAN SOMEONE HELP ME OUT WITH THOSE OTHER ITEMS, THE APP, MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN BE OTHER ITEMS, UM, PHARMACIES, LIBRARIES.

THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE OTHER TWO ITEMS THAT THEY SPECIFICALLY, I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT I GOT LIBRARIES, BUT NOT THE LAW.

THE OTHER ITEM YOU MENTIONED.

YEAH.

BANKS GROCERIES, EATERY PHARMACIES, LIBRARIES, BEAUTY BARBERSHOPS.

AND, UM, THEY ALSO MENTIONED LIKE A BOOKSTORE, BUT I DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT IN THERE.

THAT'S JUST WHAT GENERAL RETAIL.

GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE KNOWING WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS SO THAT CAN INFORM OUR DECISIONS HERE.

CAUSE THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY GOAL IS TO TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO SUPPORT WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS IN TERMS OF THE USE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M FOCUSING ON AND HOW WE DO THAT THROUGH THIS ZONING OR THAT ZONING.

I'M NOT AS TIED TO THAT AS I AM JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE USES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS.

AND SO, UH, MY, UH, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT RESTAURANTS IN LR ZONING.

CAN STAFF RESPOND TO THE POINT THAT LR ZONING, IF YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT IN LR ZONING, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T HAVE WINE OR ALCOHOL SERVED.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU CAN HAVE IT AS LONG AS IT'S LESS THAN 50% THAT'S VIRGINIA.

THAT IS CORRECT.

IT'S FOR GR ONLY IT DOESN'T APPLY TO LR.

OKAY.

IF YOU, IF RESTAURANT WITH, UM, A RESTAURANT WITH ALCOHOL SALES, LET ME CHECK MY CODE HERE.

OKAY.

A RESTAURANT WITH A RESTAURANT IN GENERAL USE THAT SERVES ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.

UM, I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT

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THE GROSS INCOME HAS TO BE AT LEAST 51% DERIVED FROM FOOD FOR A RESTAURANT IN GENERAL, FOR A RESTAURANT TO USE IN LR ZONING THAT APPLIES TO LR ZONING.

IS THAT CORRECT? WENDY, THE LR G R WHATEVER ZONING CATEGORY THAT USES IN THAT, AS LONG AS YOU'RE, AS LONG AS THE GROSS SALES ARE MORE THAN 50% FOOD ITEMS, THEN YOU CAN HAVE ALCOHOL AT THE RESTAURANT.

OKAY.

AND LR ZONING.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CON THAT WE COULD LR ZONING COULD, COULD ACTUALLY ADDRESS THIS NEED RESTAURANT WAS SERVING WINE OR ALCOHOL, UH, IN THAT.

SO I, I, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE LR ZONING IS A GOOD FIT HERE.

IT GETS THE USES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS.

AND WHEN WE HAVE THE CEO'S AND I, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PROHIBITING SOME OF THE USES THEY DON'T WANT IN THERE.

I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD SUPPORT.

UM, AND, UH, UH, AND I APPRECIATE THAT PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT THE APPLICANT IS WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO REALLY TRY TO TAILOR, MAKE THIS ZONING CASE THAT REALLY FIT WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS.

AND THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME WITH MY QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

AND THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS FOR LR ZONING, THE FOR RESTAURANT IN GENERAL, IN LR ZONING ZONING.

AND THEY'RE LIMITED TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET TO LOOK THAT UP RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M SORRY.

WHEN DO YOU NO DRIVERS IN LR AND IT'S A CERTAIN THOUSAND 4,000 SQUARE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU, WENDY, THEN.

UM, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN, NO COMMISSIONER SMITH AND THEN COMMISSIONER DUNCAN.

I KNOW COMMISSIONER SMITH GOT RID OF HIS LITTLE HAND.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER DUNKIN.

YES.

OH, I FORGOT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

OH YEAH.

AS I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THIS AND IT TENDS TO BE, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED USE, UH, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND, I THOUGHT BETWEEN THE, UH, LR AND THE TREATY ARE, AND THIS I THINK WAS EXPLAINED EARLIER, UH, WE HAVE A HEIGHTENED INTENSITY TYPE ISSUE THAT YOU GO SIX STORIES IS THAT IT IT'S AN A 40 AND 60 FOOT DIFFERENCE ON THOSE TWO.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RETAIL.

I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A 60 FOOT HEIGHT, BIG LOTS.

OKAY.

I MEAN, OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO QUICKLY, UH, UH, KIND OF BIG LOTS COME YET.

OH YEAH.

THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS.

UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS RETAIL THERE BECAUSE EVEN IF, AS I SAID EARLIER, THE PROPER PLACE, I THINK FROM A PLANNING POINT OF VIEW IS TO GET A LEGITIMATE, UH, RETAIL CENTER SOUTH OF LOYOLA BECAUSE THERE'S LARGE TRACKS THERE THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE IT.

AND IT'S NOT SPOT, UH, SOME RETAIL HERE IS PROBABLY IF NOTHING ELSE FROM AN INTERIM, UH, NECESSARY TO SERVE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

BECAUSE FROM MY LOOKING AT IT, THERE'S NOT ANY RETAIL ANYWHERE AROUND, BUT RETAIL IS NOT AN INTENSIVE TYPE USE FROM A HEIGHT AND SETBACK TYPE ISSUE.

THAT'S WHY I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE BIG ISSUE IS HERE OF R AND G R AND I, UH, UH, GR I MEAN, WE JUST DON'T DISCUSSING SOME OF THE INTRICACIES OF THE USERS.

UH, BUT I THINK THAT'S AN ALL BE HANDLED BY THIS, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.

UH, WE'RE ALREADY GETTING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL ON THAT.

SO, LIKE I SAID, UH, WHY, WHY, WHY DOES THE APPLICAT BLOCK A G R IN TERMS OF THE MORE INTENSIVE USE, UH, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY AND ALSO THERE'S DISCUSSION OF FIAR BANK SOUTH OF IT, IT MAY BE ZONE THAT, BUT THAT IS ANOTHER REFLECTION OF HOW SCREWED UP ZONING IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING USED FOR GDR.

IF I, IF I HAD TO REMEMBER THAT THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH, THIS ARE ALL MULTIFAMILY.

I MEAN, IT MAY BE SOME OFFICE IN THERE OR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S NOT GR, SO DON'T LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP, LOOK AT THE USE MAP BECAUSE THAT'S, WHAT'S THERE.

AND IT JUST SHOWS THAT WE HAVE NOT REZONED THAT CITY.

YOU COULD FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY BUILT.

UH, THIS WAS DISCUSSED LAST WEEK WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT INDUSTRY, UH, UH, I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TWO CENTURIES BEHIND IN OUR PLANNING EFFORTS DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD GO FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO MAKE THOSE TYPES OF PROBLEMATIC AREAS.

SO I SIGNED OFF ON THAT, BUT LIKE I SAID, I STILL STICK BY, UH, THE, UH, THE COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE A L O N G R L R A M U

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WITH THE CEO WITH ALL OF THESE AGREED TO USES.

AND LET'S, DON'T PLAY GAMES WITH THE USERS ANYMORE.

UH, I THINK, UH, AS MENTIONED THAT, GETTING US AHEAD, THERE ARE CERTAIN USES THE NEIGHBORHOOD FINDS OFFENSIVE, RIP THEM OUT, AND LET'S GO FORWARD AND LET THIS GUY BUILD IT SO THEY CAN START BUYING.

THANK YOU.

HI.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER EVANS.

YES.

I THINK BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD HERE WITH A, UH, ON A MISTAKEN BIT OF INFORMATION, AND I CAN'T PARTICULARLY PULL THIS UP BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I'M HAVING APPARENTLY SOME COMPUTER ISSUES AND CAN'T GET SOME FILES TO COME ABOUT, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT ALCOHOL IS PROHIBITED IN LR ZONING.

AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE INCORRECT INFORMATION.

OKAY.

LET ME CHECK THAT.

YEAH, I NEED, I NEED TO CHECK ON THAT.

UM, BUT IF I MAY COMMENT ON, UH, COMMISSIONER DUNCAN'S, UH, REQUEST OR FOR MOTION FOR LRM UC O ZONING, THAT'S THIS CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.

UM, THE ONLY THING THAT COULD BE PROHIBITED THERE WOULD BE A DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICES.

ALL THE OTHER USES THAT ARE, THAT ARE LISTED IN THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTS OR IN THE LETTER WITH COLONY PARK, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE ALL GR USES.

OKAY.

AND WENDY, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO US REALLY QUICKLY ABOUT WHETHER, UH, GR I MEAN, LR ALLOWS ALCOHOL ON MY BASIC USES CHART.

IT SHOWS THAT IT DOESN'T ALLOW ALCOHOL.

I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER EVANS, OR IT SHOWS IT DOESN'T, IT, IT HAS A CITATION IT'S VERY ERROR.

I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE DUG INTO THAT MATTER THOROUGHLY.

AND IF WE WOULD MAYBE GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO RESPOND, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD WORK FOR THIS AREA.

THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR, UH, RON AND VICTORIA.

UM, DO YOU HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER ON WHAT RESTAURANT USE IN LR ALLOWS? UM, ACCORDING TO THE CODE, UM, ALCOHOL WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED AND RESTAURANT LIMITED.

ALCOHOL IS PERMITTED IN RESTAURANT GENERAL.

UH, RESTAURANT IN GENERAL HAS A PROVISION THAT SAYS AT LEAST 51% OF THE GROSS INCOME OF A RESTAURANT MUST BE DERIVED FROM THE SALE OF PREPARED FOOD.

UM, BUT THEY CAN HAVE ALCOHOL.

WHEREAS IN RESTAURANT LIMITED, YOU CANNOT HAVE ALCOHOL AND TORI COULD, COULD YOU CITE THE SECTION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT? ARE YOU LOOKING AT EIGHT OH EIGHT? I'M LOOKING YES.

25 TO EIGHT OH EIGHT AND 25 TO EIGHT OH NINE.

OKAY.

LET ME GO THERE JUST A MOMENT.

I ACTUALLY HAVE MY CODE OUT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND WHILE, UM, WENDY IS LOOKING AT THAT, THEN I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER SMITH AND THEN COMMISSIONER BRAY, AND THEN COMMISSIONER DOUG BENKLER.

I WAS JUST GOING TO OFFER UP THAT.

I THINK 25 TO FIVE 87 IS THE CITATION FOR RESTAURANT GENERAL IS ALLOWED, BUT IT'S GOT A LIMITATION ON 25, 25, 87, WHICH GETS INTO OUTDOOR SIDE WORK WORKLOAD AGE, ADULT ENTERTAINMENT IS PROHIBITED.

A LOT OF THE THINGS FROM PROHIBITED, UM, IN 25 TO 587, WHICH IS THE CITATION LIMITING RESTAURANT GENERAL THAT ISN'T ALLOWED USE WITHIN LR GRS ALLOW HOLD LIMITATION, LR FOR LEVEL TWO 45, THREE, FIVE 87 IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

WE HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR WENDY, I WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER BENKLER AND THEN COMMISSIONER BRAY.

AND I MAY HAVE REVERSED THAT, BUT COMMISSIONER DINKLER AND THEN COMMISSIONER BRAY.

UH, IT'S ANOTHER QUESTION FOR WENDY, UH, WATER, THE T A B C RULES RELATING TO ALCOHOL CAUSE TO A SCHOOL.

UH, I, OH, GOODNESS.

ISN'T IT.

A FEW HUNDRED FEET.

IT'S 300.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT IS 300.

OKAY.

SO, UH, SO IT, I MEAN, IN SOME WAYS, IF SOMEONE FROM THE SCHOOL WERE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT ALCOHOL SALES, UM, TO THE TIBC, IT COULD BE PROHIBITED BY THE TIBC THERE, CORRECT? YEAH.

OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO SEEK A WAIVER.

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OKAY.

RIGHT.

THAT WOULD BE THROUGH THE CITY COMMISSIONERS.

MAY THE COUNTY ACTUALLY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, WENDY.

AND WHEN DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER OR I GUESS, UM, IT ISN'T ALLOWED IN LR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I AGREE WITH WHAT TORY SAID.

I'M SORRY FOR THE EARLIER MISTAKE.

I APOLOGIZE.

OKAY.

NO, IT'S, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT BALANCING A BUNCH OF THINGS ON COMPUTERS AND, UM, THANK YOU.

AND THEN I WILL GO.

UM, AND RON, WERE YOU TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING? WAS THAT A RON VOICE? I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONERS.

UH, YES.

THIS IS THAT WASN'T RON VOID.

UM, AND I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO FOLLOW UP.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE ISSUE OF LRG OUR RESTAURANT GENERAL RESTAURANT LIMITED, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS A WINE BAR HERE AND THAT CAN ONLY GO IN GR CSM.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS.

OH, I THINK, UH,