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SO SAMMY FIND

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YOU HARVARD.

AND IF YOU COULD TELL THAT THE SPEAKERS ARE WE'RE READY FOR SPEAKERS.

YES.

[Call to Order]

GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS THAT HAVE NOT DIALED IN YET, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT INDICATED HE'S, UH, GOT TO DIAL IN LATE, BUT WE CAN GET STARTED WITH THE SPEAKERS.

UM, AND YOU'VE CALLED THE MEETING TO ORDER, IS THAT CORRECT? SORRY, I HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET.

I WAS WAITING TO GET THE GO-AHEAD FROM YOU.

SO THE SPEAKERS, ARE THEY CITIZEN COMMUNICATION OR ARE THEY SPEAKERS WERE PRESENTERS OUR SPEAKERS ON AGENDA ITEMS. WE HAD NO GENERAL SICK SITCOM, BUT WE ARE STILL TAKING ALL OF THE SPEAKERS AT THE START OF THE MEETING JUST TO ENSURE THEY DON'T HAVE TO STAY ON THE PHONE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO I'LL THEN I GUESS LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED SINCE IT'S ONE OH FOUR.

SO WE CAN GET KIND OF GET THIS SHOW ON THE ROAD AND NOT TAKE UP ALL OF EVERYBODY'S FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

SO THIS IS A MEETING OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD IS FRIDAY, DECEMBER 4TH.

ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE MEETING VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE AND I'M CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER.

AND FIRST I WANT TO TAKE ROLE.

WE HAVE A VICE CHAIR.

PHARSIGHT IS NOT HERE.

I, I GUESS I'M NOT SEEING, I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY, BUT I DON'T S I DON'T THINK YOU TEAR RIGHT.

OR MEMBER DIPLOMA FOR ALL THE BOARD MEMBER, UH, DECARLO HERE, BOARD MEMBER, MASON MURPHY, UH, BOARD MEMBER FAST HERE, BOARD MEMBER, MORGAN BOARD MEMBER LUCA HERE, BOARD MEMBER TAYLOR AND BOARD MEMBER COTTON.

CYBIL HERE.

OKAY.

SO SAME IN, DID YOU GET THAT? WHO WAS MISSING? YES.

CHAIR LEWIS.

I DID.

THANK YOU.

AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND LET, UH, OTHER BOARD MEMBERS IN AS WE SEE THEM POP UP ON THE ADMITTANCE SCREEN.

OKAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

SO, OKAY,

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL (Part 1 of 2)]

WELL LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH THE, THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION WHERE WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS.

I SAID, WHO, WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH, CORRECT? YES.

THAT IS CORRECT.

HERE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED? YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

UH, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS ADAM SPARKS AND MR. SPARKS REQUESTED TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION TO YOU.

SO GIVE US JUST A SECOND WHILE WE GET IT PULLED UP.

AND THEN MR. SPARKS TIME, WE'LL BEGIN.

MR. SPARKS.

YOUR TIME BEGINS RIGHT NOW AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HELLO EVERYONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LOOK AT THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE.

MY NAME IS ADAM SPARKS.

I'M THE HEAD OF THE HANCOCK CONSERVANCY, AND WE BELIEVE THAT HANCOCK GOLF COURSE SHOULD BE TRANSFORMED INTO A GREEN SPACE AND PUBLIC PARK ACCESSIBLE TO ALL.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE NORTH.

WE'VE BEEN CHERRYWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE 2011.

I CARED ABOUT HANCOCK GOLF COURSE FOR OVER A DECADE.

AND WHILE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN OTHER CIVIC EFFORTS ACROSS THE CITY, I'VE NEVER BEEN PART OF AN EFFORT THAT IS RIDING A WAVE OF PUBLIC SUPPORT, LIKE THE HANCOCK CONSERVANCY.

SINCE LAUNCHING IN OCTOBER, WE NOW HAVE A 14 MEMBER BOARD.

WE RECEIVED OVER 1,700 SIGNATURES TO OUR PETITION.

YOU CAN GO TO THE SECOND SLIDE THERE.

OUR IDEA BEGINS WITH A SIMPLE PREMISE AT 45 ACRES OF OPEN GREEN SPACE WITH A CREEK RUNNING THROUGH IT.

MAGICALLY APPEARED IN THE HEART OF OUR EVER-GROWING CITY.

HOW WOULD WE USE IT? UH, WE THINK THAT SHOULD BE A PARK ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE IN THE CITY.

AND IT GOES WITH PARTS LONG-TERM PLANS AND ENSURING PARTS ACT AS RELIEF FROM URBAN LIGHT AND EXPANDING AND IMPROVING PARKS ACCESS.

FOR ALL.

WE BELIEVE THAT A HANDCUFFED PART COULD BE A NEW CROWN JUUL IN THE AUSTIN PARK SYSTEM.

OUR VISION IS FOR A NATURAL OASIS OPEN TO ALL CENTERED AROUND THE RIGHT PERIOD RESTORATION OF WALNUT CREEK WITH NEW TRAILS AND TREE CANOPY FOR PEOPLE TO WALK THROUGH PICNIC AND ENJOY.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CONCEPT MAP, WHICH IS ALSO INCLUDED ON THE HANDOUT, YOU'LL BE PROVIDED, YOU'LL SEE WE'RE REQUESTING A LOT LESS THAN THE SPACE TO BE MOST THAT IT CAN BE RESTORED TO A MORE NATURAL HABITAT.

IF YOU GO TO SLIDE THREE, ESSENTIALLY, WE WANT LESS OF THIS.

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AND MORE OF THIS.

OUR MODEL IS WILLOWBROOK REACHING THE CHERRYWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE RIPARIAN RESTORATION HAS RESTORED THAT LAND AND MADE A NATURAL OASIS THAT COSTS NOTHING TO MAINTAIN EVERY YEAR BECAUSE IT'S WILD.

WHEN I ATTENDED THE PART MEETING BACK IN FEBRUARY ON THE FUTURE OF HANCOCK, THERE WAS NO ENGAGEMENT ON THE FIRST OF THE THREE FUTURE USE SCENARIOS PRESENTED BY THE NATIONAL GOLF FOUNDATION REPORT, NAMELY THE HANCOCK TO COME WITH PARK.

SO I ASKED THE ROOM WHO HERE SUPPORTED THE PARK AND OVER HALF THE HANDS IN THE ROOM, GRACE THAT'S WHEN I KNEW THAT WE WERE ONTO SOMETHING.

SO I DECIDED, BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK THAT PART WAS ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY.

I MADE MY OWN SURVEY.

YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UH, ART SURVEY, THE RESULTS OF OVER 700 PEOPLE ANSWERED IN LESS THAN THREE WEEKS.

DO YOU SUPPORT YOUR CONVERTING TO LANDFILL PUBLIC PARK, 79% WERE FOR IT? HOW DO YOU CURRENTLY USE THE LAND? 67% AS AN ENSEMBLE PARK, YOU GO TO SLIDE FIVE.

DO YOU SUPPORT ALLOWING A PRIVATE ENTITY TO REDEVELOP THE SITE INTO A MODERN GOLF LEARNING CENTER? THESE WERE THE WORDS TAKEN FROM THE NGF REPORT, 84% AGAINST IT.

DO YOU SUPPORT ADDING A DRIVING RANGE? 79% ARE AGAINST IT? IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, OUR DID DO A SURVEY, BUT WE NEED A CLEARER SURVEY.

UH, WE CAN COMPARE THIS WITH PARTS SURVEY, WHICH ASKS OPEN ENDED VAGUE QUESTIONS, SUCH AS WHAT CAN BE DONE TO HONOR THE HISTORY OF GOLF ON THE SITE.

THE ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION WERE INCLUDED AS PRO GOLF RESPONSES.

WE JUST, HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO DECLARE PRO GOLF WOULD BE THE MAIN RESULT, BUT WE HAVE ANNOTATED ALL OF THE RESPONSES TO THEIR SURVEY.

AND THE MAIN QUESTION, WHICH IS WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE FUTURE USE OF THE SPACE? AND IF YOU SEE THEIR RESPONSES ARE 40 PEOPLE PRO PUBLIC PARKING GREEN SPACE, NEXT ANSWER WAS ANTI PRIVATIZATION, PROFIT GENERATING, UH, PRO MODERN GOLF FACILITY.

ONLY SEVEN PEOPLE SAID.

SO I WILL BE EMAILING ALL OF YOU WITH OUR ANNOTATOR RESULTS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, OUR GOAL HAS BEEN TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS BEING CLEARLY HEARD, AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR DIRECTING PARTS OF SLOWED DOWN WITH THEIR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

LOOKING FORWARD.

WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO ASK PART ENCOURAGED PART TO ASK SIMPLE, CLEAR, AND QUANTITATIVE QUESTIONS AND THEIR UPCOMING SURVEY QUESTIONS SUCH AS DO YOU SUPPORT THE TRANSFORMATION OF HANCOCK INTO A PUBLIC PARK AND OR NATURAL GREEN SPACE USE SUPPORT THIS BOX? YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

AND THAT THAT'S ALL IN THE HANDOUT IS THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, MR. SPARKS, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OR CALLING IN, UM, JUST REAL QUICK, SEMI A BOARD MEMBER, MASON, I MEAN, UM, KNOW MASON MURPHY.

SHE HAD TO CALL IN, SO SHE'S HERE, BUT SHE CAN'T, UM, GET IN SO SHE CAN PARTICIPATE.

SHE'S ON THE SCREEN CHAIR NOW.

I AM GOOD.

I WASN'T SURE ON NOW.

OKAY, GOOD.

OKAY, PERFECT.

OKAY.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, SPEAKERS? YES, CHAIR, UH, ROBIN ROSS WILL BE NEXT.

MS. ROSS.

UM, YOUR THREE MINUTES CAN START RIGHT NOW.

WE'LL JUST UNMUTE YOU.

OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY.

THANKS SO MUCH PARK THEN BART BOARD MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS ROBIN ROSS, AND I'M SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, THE HANCOCK GOLF COURSE.

SO I'VE LIVED IN AUSTIN FOR 21 YEARS AND THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD FOR SEVEN.

I RUN ON THE TRAIL AT THE HANCOCK GOLF COURSE ABOUT THREE TIMES A WEEK.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE HANCOCK CONSERVANCY.

AND ON THE SUBJECT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO DO TWO THINGS FIRST.

AND YOUR NEXT SURVEY ASK PEOPLE TO CHOOSE AMONG THE THREE OPTIONS THE CITY IS CONSIDERING FOR THE FUTURE OF HANCOCK.

THOSE BEING THE RFP FOR A MODERN GOLF LEARNING CENTER, THE CITY RUNNING A MODERN GOLF LEARNING CENTER OR CONVERSION TO A PASSIVE PARK.

SO HAVE PEOPLE PICK ONE OR ASK THEM TO RANK THEM ONE, TWO AND THREE, AND I'M MAKING THIS SUGGESTION BASED ON MY OWN EXPERIENCE, TALKING WITH PEOPLE ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE AND THE PAST MONTH HANCOCK CONSERVANCY, VOLUNTEERS WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE KNOCKED ON 116 DOORS TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO JOIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ASK THEM WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE AT THE GOLF COURSE.

I PERSONALLY KNOCKED ON 26 DOORS AND I HAD 13 CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORS THAT I WOULD SAY WERE MEANINGFUL.

AND WHAT I'VE LEARNED IS THAT WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT THIS, MOST PEOPLE SAY, OH, BUT I LIKED THE WAY IT IS.

WHY CAN'T THEY LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS.

AND SO THEN YOU EXPLAIN THE FINANCIAL REALITIES THAT THE CITY IS FACING AND THE NGF REPORT.

AND THEN MOST PEOPLE SAY, WELL, I GUESS IF IT CAN'T STAY HOW IT IS, THEN I'D RATHER TURN IT INTO A PARK BECAUSE I DON'T GOLF.

AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A PARK THAT EVERYONE COULD USE.

THREE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO LIVE IN HANCOCK AND ALSO IDENTIFIED AS GOLFERS.

AND THEY ALL SAID, WELL, I REALLY WISH THE CITY WOULD KEEP IT AS IT IS NOW, BUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT, I'D RATHER HAVE A PARK.

I DON'T WANT ANYTHING FANCY OR A DRIVING RANGE OR BARRIER NETTING OR LIGHTS.

SO WHEN YOU TELL PEOPLE IT CAN'T STAY THE SAME, DO YOU WANT OPTION A, B OR C? EVEN THESE GOLFERS DID NOT WANT A MODERN GOLF LEARNING CENTER.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT THE NEXT SURVEY NEEDS TO CLEARLY EXPLAIN WHY JUST KEEPING THE COURSE THE WAY IT IS, IS NOT AN OPTION.

AND THEN FORCE PEOPLE TO CHOOSE AMONG THE THREE OPTIONS THE CITY IS

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CONSIDERING BECAUSE GIVEN OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS, PEOPLE WILL SAY, I LIKE GREEN SPACE, OR I LIKE HAVING GOLF THERE.

WHEN WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN IS I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO CHANGE.

SO YOU HAVE TO PUSH PEOPLE TO CONSIDER THESE FUTURE VISIONS.

AND THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO ASK THEM TO CHOOSE A, B OR C.

MY SECOND REQUEST IS THAT AS YOU CONSIDER WHO THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE FOR THIS SPACE, TO JUST REALIZE THAT FOR MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS AREA, HANCOCK FUNCTIONS AS A DEFACTO NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN ONLY USE THE TRAIL AROUND THE PERIMETER FOR MOST OF THE DAY.

SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF MUNICIPAL GOLF, BUT THIS IS ALSO THE ONLY PUBLIC GREEN SPACE THAT MOST FAMILIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN WALK TO IN 10 MINUTES.

SO I ASK THAT AS YOU CREATE YOUR NEXT ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY, YOU REALLY GIVE SOME WEIGHT TO WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS WANT.

SINCE THIS IS THE CLOSEST THING THAT WE'VE GOT TO A PARK.

THANKS SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

UM, SO WE, DO WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER? YES.

MA'AM PAUL AND SARAH PAUL, YOUR TIME, WE'LL START ONCE WE UNMUTE YOU MA'AM, I'M SUPPOSED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE VIETNAM MEMORIAL ASSOCIATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? MA'AM YES, SIR.

YES, SIR.

THAT IS CORRECT.

WE'RE TAKING ALL OF THE SPEAKERS AT THE START OF THE MEETING.

OKAY.

MA'AM OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS PAUL IN HERO.

GO FONDER.

AND FIRST IS H VMA.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU ATC VNA RELIEVES THAT THOSE THAT GAVE THEM IN THOSE THAT GAVE ALL FROM TRAVIS COUNTY OR NOT BEING HONORABLY, UH, HONORED AT ST.

JUDE B A D A T CVM ATCM WENT ON, ARE ALL SONS AND DAUGHTERS FROM CABBIES COUNTY THAT SERVED IN ALL THE WARDS.

IT WOULD HONOR GOLD STAR MOTHERS.

AND, UH, I'M SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT GOES ON.

OUR MOTHERS ARE ABLE HONOR.

FIRST LIEUTENANT RICHARD SIGNED THEM, UH, THE ONLY CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR WINNER BOARD IN TRAVIS COUNTY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS.

UH, THERE'S AN EMPLOYEE.

I'LL GIVE HIM AND HE'S HE'S YOU RESPECT YOU AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY AND VIETNAM MEMORIAL WILL BRING MANY VISITORS TO GET THINGS, RESPECT YOU ALL, UH, KEVIN'S COUNTY VETERANS, THANK YOU AND HELP YOU HELP, RIGHT.

TO HELP US RECOGNIZE THEM.

AND GOD BLESS AMERICA.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND SPEAKER, COULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL STAYS ON THE CALL JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS WENT INTO THE AGENDA ITEM IS PRESENTED.

CAN YOU DO THAT SEMI YES.

BOARD MEMBER? IT WAS MY INTENTION TO HAVE ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SPOKE, SPEAKING ABOUT THE VETERAN'S MEMORIAL TO REMAIN ON THE LINE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I THINK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE, RIGHT, TIMMY? YES, WE DO.

JULIO TREVIÑO IS ALSO HERE WITH THE VETERANS GROUP.

UM, MR. TREVINO, ONCE WE UNMUTE YOU YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

AM I ON? YES, SIR.

YOU'RE READY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MAN.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE, UH, ASSOCIATION THAT WE WERE WORKING ON.

MY NAME IS, UH, AGAIN, HULA ATTRIBUTING YOU, UM, ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE, UH, FUNDS FOR VETERANS ASSISTANCE IN HERE IN AUSTIN.

UH, MY WIFE AND I VOLUNTEERED THREE YEARS TO, TO GET THIS, UH, GOING MY WIFE AND I WERE THE FIRST ONES TO GIVE A THOUSAND DOLLARS SO THAT THEY COULD OPEN AN ACCOUNT.

AND W THEY HAD NO EMPLOYEES.

UH, THERE WAS, UH, 15 OF US THAT WERE VOLUNTEERS FOR THE TEXAS VETERANS ASSISTANCE.

AND NOW THEY HAVE OVER 125 EMPLOYEES IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THEY GAVE $23.5 MILLION TO THE, TO HELP THE VETERANS, UH, THAT ARE IN NEED AND MYSELF.

UH, AND MY WIFE, NO DREW BREE, UH, THE QUARTERBACK FOR THE NEW ORLEANS SAINTS.

WE BROUGHT HIM OVER SO HE COULD HELP, UH, UH, GROW THIS, UH, FOUNDATION THAT WE STARTED.

AND THIS IS HOW WE PLAN ON DOING, UH, THIS ASSOCIATION THE SAME WAY

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IS BY, UH, UH, GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET US A LOCATION.

AND, UM, THEN WE CAN START FROM THERE.

WE HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ANXIOUS TO START.

WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS THAT WANT TO DONATE, BUT UNTIL WE GET A PLACE, UH, THEY'RE HOLDING OFF.

AND SO ARE WE, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND MY, AND I AM A VETERAN AND I'M A HIGHLY DECORATED VETERAN AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, TELL ME, ARE WE, DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE CHAIR, THOSE ARE ALL THOSE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE, BUT I HAD THREE MORE THAT HAD REGISTERED THAT HAVE NOT YET COME ON THE LINE.

I KNOW SOMETIMES THERE ARE SOME ISSUES GETTING IN.

IF WE SEE THEM POP UP, UM, WE CAN INTERRUPT THE MEETING IF YOU WANT AND HAVE THAT'S FINE.

AS LONG AS IT HAPPENS FAIRLY SOON BEFORE WE REALLY GET INVOLVED IN OUR DISCUSSIONS.

THAT'S GREAT.

YEP.

I KNOW.

SOMETIMES TRYING TO DO WEBEX IS A CHALLENGE.

YEAH, IT IS CHALLENGING.

AND I THINK EVERYBODY GOES THROUGH THAT.

SO I, UM, I APPRECIATE IT.

AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO'S SPOKEN AND THANK YOU FOR OUR, UM, OUR, OUR VETERANS AND FOR THE S YOUR SERVICE.

OKAY.

SO

[A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

SO Y'ALL HAVE THE MINUTES, AND HOPEFULLY YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS, AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LISTEN TO THANK YOU QUICK.

I HAVE A QUICK POINT ON THE, WHEN I ASKED FOR, UM, AN UPDATE ON THE POOLS, I WAS ASKING FOR THE BOND MONEY, THAT WHAT WE HAD SPENT ON MONEY, UPDATING THE POOLS, INSTEAD OF JUST BUDGETING BOARD MEMBERS.

THIS IS KIMBERLY.

YES.

WE DID SEND A MEMO THAT PROVIDED INFORMATION ABOUT MONEY AND THEN ALL OTHER EXPENDITURES.

DID YOU RECEIVE THAT MEMO? AND IT WAS THAT NOT MEETING? NO, THAT'S FINE.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT COMPLAINING.

I'M JUST SAYING FOR A CORRECTION IN THE MINUTES.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE.

I MISSED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO DO WE WANT TO, UM, MAKE THE CORRECTION AND THEN MOVE WITH THE CORRECTED VERSION? I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

YOU'RE GETTING RAYBURN BACK OR SOMETHING.

SO I MOVE THAT.

WE, WE, UH, PASS THE MINUTES AS AMENDED IN A SECOND.

OKAY.

SO WHAT WERE DIPLOMA MOVES TO PASS THEM IN THE MINUTES AS AMENDED AND SECOND, AND BY BOARD MEMBER COTTON.

CYBIL ALL IN FAVOR.

AND AGAIN, IF I CAN'T SEE YOU, I NEED FOR YOU TO, TO SAY YES, BECAUSE SAMMY NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S RECORDED THAT WAY.

AND I CAN SEE EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR POOR MEMBER FILES.

DOES SHE? YEAH.

YES.

YES.

OKAY, PERFECT.

OKAY.

SO THERE WE GO AND SEND ME, WE PASS UNANIMOUSLY.

OKAY.

[CONSENT]

SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND I BELIEVE THAT BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA WANTED TO PULL, UM, ITEM ONE, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.

SORRY, CHAD.

I WAS LOOKING FOR MY MUTE BUTTON.

UH, THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND JUST TO REITERATE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I CAN REITERATE IT ENOUGH.

IT DOES NOT.

CAUSE I HAVE ANY CONCERNS RELATING TO THE PROJECT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS ELEVATED AND IT GETS ITS ATTENTION.

UM, PARTICULARLY AS THEY GO THROUGH, ASSUMING THAT IT PASSES AND IT GOES THROUGH A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN, ANY SORT OF PRESS THAT, THAT WE CAN HELP GET OUT OF IT BEING PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC.

UM, I'M ALL FOR IT.

OKAY, PERFECT.

SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON MY CONSENT CALENDAR THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO PULL? ARE WE GOOD? OKAY.

SO, SO WE GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT ITEM ONE FIRST.

WE NEED TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR FOR A SECOND.

IS THERE ANY ORDER TO IT? YEAH, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER JUST TO DO ALL OF THE OTHER ITEMS AND THEN COME BACK AND DO ITEM ONE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A MOTION ON THE REST OF THE CONSENT AND THEN HANDLE ONE AFTER THAT.

OKAY.

SO DO WE WANT TO DO I, CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THAT? I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEMS SECOND.

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OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR.

THERE YOU GO.

[B1. Make a recommendation to the Parks and Recreation Director regarding support for a Parkland Improvement and Maintenance Agreement with Austin Travis County Vietnam Memorial Association and others for the placement of a Vietnam Veterans Memorial adjacent to the Nash Hernandez Building at Holly Shores/Edward Rendon Sr. Park at Festival Beach to recognize the men and women who honorably served from all of Travis County and in particular from East Austin. (PARD Long Range Plan Strategies – Urban Public Spaces; SD23 Outcomes – Culture & Lifelong Learning)]

OKAY.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO, UM, ITEM ONE AND BOARD MEMBER DEPALMA.

DID YOU WANT, I KNOW YOU BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF THINGS, BUT DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT ANYMORE? UM, AGAIN, I MEAN, I COULD, I COULD DO IT ON THE FRONT END OR THE BACKEND ONE IS MORE OF THE, I'LL PROBABLY GET EMOTIONAL ACTUALLY JUST, YEAH.

OKAY.

WELL, THE ITEMS TO MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR REGARDING SUPPORT FOR A PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY, VIETNAM MEMORIAL ASSOCIATION, AND OTHERS FOR THE PLACEMENT, A VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL ADJACENT TO THE NASH.

AND ANDIS BUILDING AT, EXCUSE ME, AT HOLLY SHORES, EDWARD BRENDAN, SENIOR PARK OF FESTIVAL BEADS TO RECOGNIZE THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HONORABLY SERVED FROM ALL OF TRAVIS COUNTY AND IN PARTICULAR FROM EAST AUSTIN.

AND I KNOW THIS, UM, MEANS A LOT TO ALL OF US, BUT ESPECIALLY I KNOW THAT BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA'S FATHER SERVED IN VIETNAM AS WELL.

SO, UM, WITH THIS, DO WE HAVE ANY, I MEAN, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON IT OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS? ACTUALLY, IF STAFF HAS A PRIVATE PATIENT JUST TO KIND OF TAKE THEM, BASICALLY, I'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT IT AND HOW IT CAME ABOUT, AND WHAT'S MY AD FOR IT TO BE DEVELOPED.

UM, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU APPROVE THIS AND WHAT DO WE SEE THE TICKER STAGES AT, WHO'S THE CONS THE POINT OF CONTACT AND THEN HOPEFULLY OUR FRIENDS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN AND THE OFFSET MONITOR, UM, WE'LL WRITE A LOVELY PIECE ABOUT IT THAT, THAT PROVIDES THAT DETAIL TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

THAT IS THE GOAL.

UM, AND THAT'S LIKE MY PURPOSE.

AND OF COURSE I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, TO HELP SUPPORT IT AS WELL.

UM KNOW, SO MY DAD WAS A, HE HAS SINCE PASSED THAT WE'RE COMING UP ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF HIS DEATH.

SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE EMOTIONAL THAN THE NORMAL PART A YEAR, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, VIETNAM VETERAN WHO LOST AN ARM AND KIDNEY INTESTINES IN VIETNAM AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY HIS LIFE, LIKE SO MANY OF OUR BAD FRIENDS, EITHER, WHETHER IT'S FROM AGENT ORANGE OR FOR THE INJURIES THAT THEY SUSTAINED WHILE SERVING OUR COUNTRY, UM, PASTOR ASKED YOU UNDER THAT HE SHOULD HAVE.

AND SO, UH, HE IS HONORED AND HE'S A NATIVE OF WICHITA FALLS, TEXAS, WHICH IS WHERE HE'S BURIED.

AND, UH, HE DOES HAVE THAT RECOGNITION THERE.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT OUR, UH, WOMEN AND MEN, UH, SERVICES HERE AT AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY ARE RECOGNIZED AS WELL.

WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

REMEMBER, DEPARTMENT.

WE, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

SO DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION SAMMY? YES.

CHAIR LEWIS.

WE DO.

AND RICARDO SOLIZ AND DAVID CARROLL WILL COME OVER TO THE SCREEN.

JUST GIVE US A SECOND TO GET THEM MOVED OVER AND GET THE PRESENTATION PULLED UP.

THANK YOU, CHAIR, LOUIS, RICARDO AND DAVID CARROLL SHOULD BE ON.

SO RICARDO, IF YOU WANT TO GET STARTED, WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL ISSUES WITH ADOBE TODAY IN THE SCREEN IS UNFORTUNATELY NOT MOVING INTO FULL SCREEN MODE.

SO WE APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

NOW IT HAPPENS.

SO NO, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

UM, THE CARD OF THIS IS RICARDO SELISE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

YES.

GREAT.

UH, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD MEMBERS FOR CARLOS POLICE FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

AND I WANTED TO, UH, JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, UM, HOW THIS GROUP CAME TO US AND, UH, THE AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY, VIETNAM MEMORIAL ASSOCIATION CONTACTED OUR DEPARTMENT AND REALLY WANTED TO SEE, DISCUSS WITH US WHERE AS A MONUMENT COULD BE LOCATED ON PARKLAND AND PARTICULARLY AND UP ON THE EAST, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE SITES THAT, THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THE, IS, UH, AROUND THE NATIONAL LANDIS BUILDING SITE.

UM, UH, FOR SEVERAL REASONS, ONE IS THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, PART PLANS TO RENOVATE THAT FACILITY, UM, IN THE, IN THE FUTURE, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING AT THIS POINT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CERTAINLY NEED TO ADDRESS.

AND, UM, UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS A LOCATION

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THAT WE HAD RECOMMENDED TO, TO HAVE THIS, THIS MONUMENT RECOGNITION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BUILDING.

IT WOULD BRING MORE MOMENTUM FOR US TO, TO GET, UM, THAT GOING, UH, SOME EXCITEMENT BEHIND THAT PROJECT.

AND, UH, ANOTHER REASON FOR THAT WAS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PARKING THAT'S AVAILABLE THERE THAT COULD BE EASILY, UM, CONNECTED TO THE MONUMENT SITE.

AND SO, UM, THE, THE SITE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS JUST WEST OF THE BUILDING THAT YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, UH, THE IMAGERY THERE, THE SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THE NATIONAL AND THIS BUILDING, AND, UM, THE PROPOSED SITE THAT WOULD LOCATE THE, UM, THE MONUMENT.

ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE LOCATED IT, THERE WAS DUE TO, UM, AVOIDING EXISTING UTILITY EASEMENTS THAT WE HAVE, AND, AND, AND, UH, UH, NOT TO REMOVE ANY TREES, BEAUTIFUL TREES, UH, THAT ARE ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT AREA WAS CLEAR.

IT WAS, UM, AND WAS CLOSE TO THE FACILITY WHERE WE COULD HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT WOULD CONNECT TO, UM, TO THE PARK OF NATIONAL, THIS BUILDING.

UM, UH, THE ASSOCIATION GROUP MET WITH COUNCIL MEMBER RENTERIA, I BELIEVE IN AUGUST.

AND HE WAS ALSO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL, UM, AND ALSO WANTING EXCITED TO THE FACT THAT, UH, THE MONUMENT, BUT ALSO TO BRING SOME MOMENTUM AND, AND, AND, UM, SYNERGY TO THE, UH, NATIONAL NDIS BUILDING TOO, UM, AS WELL, UM, SO THAT THEY MET WITH, WITH, UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBER IN AUGUST, AFTER THAT HE RECOMMENDED FOR US TO GO TO THE VIETNAM COMMISSION.

UM, I'M SORRY TO THE VETERANS COMMISSION IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH THE GROUP DID, THEY UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED THE, THE CONCEPT AND PLAN.

UM, SO, UM, SO YES, THAT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT WHERE WE'RE ON YOUR AGENDA.

THE, UH, UH, IT WOULD, IT WOULD INCLUDE A, UM, WHAT THIS WOULD MEAN IS FOR US TO ENTER INTO A PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THIS, WITH THIS ASSOCIATION.

UM, SO THEY WOULD PUT THIS ENHANCEMENT TO OUR, UM, AND BUILD THIS ENHANCEMENT AND, UH, AS WELL AS MAINTAIN THIS, UH, MONUMENT WHEN THAT DOES HAPPEN.

UM, IN THE MEANTIME, WE ARE MEETING WITH THE, UH, SOME LOCAL COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS EAST TOWN LAKE FOR INSTANCE, WAS ONE, WE HAD A DISCUSSION LAST MONTH, UM, ABOUT THIS, AND THEY'RE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

UH, WE HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM WITH EAST SCISSOR, TRAVIS IN JANUARY TO DISCUSS THIS AS WELL.

THEY'VE, UM, THEY'VE GIVEN PRETTY MUCH THEIR SUPPORT VERBALLY, UH, WITH THIS IMPROVEMENT.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE, UM, I THINK, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

UM, UM, THE W IF, IF THIS IS APPROVED BY THE BOARD, THE COUNCIL MEMBER WAS WANTING TO, TO HEAR FROM THE VETERANS COMMISSION AND THE PARKS BOARD IN ORDER, AND, UH, THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN ORDER FOR HIM TO, TO LOOK AT, UM, UH, RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL FOR US TO AMEND THE HOLLY EDWARD RENDON, UH, VISION PLAN TO INCLUDE THIS COMPONENT IN THE PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED, UH, BY COUNCIL IN 2014, I BELIEVE.

SO.

UM, WITH THAT, I HAVE DAVID CARROLL WITH ME WHO IS PART OF THE ASSOCIATION GROUP, AND HE'S, UH, HE'S A CIVIL ENGINEER HELPING THE, THE, UH, ASSOCIATION WITH JUST PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING AND SITE PLAN THAT YOU SEE HERE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.

UH, I'M DAVID CARROLL.

UM, I'M A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THIS PROJECT AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ASSOCIATION FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW ON A PRO BONO BASIS TO GET THIS DEVELOPED CONCEPTUALLY AND WITH THE PRELIMINARY LAYOUT.

AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, THE PARD, UH, AND, AND, UH, RICARDO'S, UH, DEPARTMENT IN BEDDING OUT A SITE THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE AND AMENABLE FOR THIS TYPE OF USE.

UH, AS RICARDO MENTIONED, UH, PROPOSAL LOCATION IS CLEAR, UH, UTILITY EASEMENTS IT'S, UH, EASILY ACCESSIBLE, UH, FROM SEVERAL DIRECTIONS, UH, AND IS IN A VERY LEVEL AREA.

UH, THERE'S REALLY MINIMUM GRADING.

THAT'S GOING TO BE INVOLVED.

IT'S A COMPACT SITE, IT'S A, WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF TO

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STAY OUTSIDE OF THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONES IN ORDER TO NOT IMPACT THE TREES IN THE AREA.

AND IT, THE LAYOUT IS BASICALLY A CIRCLE WITHIN A CIRCLE.

UH, YOU HAVE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN ZOOM IN, BUT, UH, THE SIDEWALKS ARE ABOUT SIX FOOT WIDE AND YOU HAVE A CIRCLE.

UH, AND THEN WITHIN THAT CIRCLE, THERE'S AN INNER CIRCLE THAT WILL HAVE A, UH, PROBABLY A GRANITE BASE, UH, THAT WILL THEN HAVE A STATUE ON IT, UM, THAT WOULD REPRESENT THE, THOSE WHO SERVED AND THE FALLEN IN THE VIETNAM WAR AND THERE TO THE RIGHT, UH, SORRY TO THE LEFT OF THAT.

THERE'S A SMALLER CIRCLE.

AND IN THAT AREA, WHAT IS CURRENTLY CONCEPTUALLY PROPOSED IS A STATUTE STATUTE FOR THE CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR WINNER THAT WAS MENTIONED BY MR. ENSIDA EARLIER.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN MAKE OUT A COUPLE OF DARK LINES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CIRCLE.

THERE'S TWO SEPARATE DARK LINES.

THOSE ARE PROPOSED WALLS ON WHICH THE NAMES OF, UH, DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE EITHER ENGRAVED INTO THE WALL TO A STONE OR A, IT MAY BE A PLAQUE THAT IS APPLIED TO THAT WALL.

OH, THAT'LL HAVE THE NAMES OF THE INDIVIDUALS OR THAT THEY SERVED IN, UH, YOU KNOW, WHICH, WHICH, UH, SERVICES THEY WERE WITH, UH, ET CETERA.

UM, AGAIN, IT'S A VERY COMPACT SITE, UH, TRYING TO MAKE IT AS SUSTAINABLE AS POSSIBLE AND, AND KEEP CLEAR OF THE TREES AND PROVIDE ACCESS FROM, FROM THREE DIRECTIONS.

UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT IT AS FAR AS THE LAYOUT GOES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO DO WE HAVE, UM, AND THAT'S, UH, THERE WE GO.

COULD YOU, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE, AND COULD YOU SAY THE STATUE TOO, PLEASE? UH, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, AND DAVID, IF YOU ALLOW ME, THE, THESE WERE JUST EXAMPLES OF THE DESIGN HAS NOT FULLY BEEN, UH, BAKED YET OR DONE YET.

SO THIS WAS JUST TO GIVE THE, THE BOARD, UH, JUST AN EXAMPLE OF, OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT NOT THAT, THAT IS THE SPECIFIC DESIGN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UM, QUESTIONS, THE DIPLOMA? YEAH.

UM, SO DO WE HAVE, I GUESS THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS.

ONE IS, IS GOING TO BE GEARED TO THOSE WHO LOST THEIR LIFE IN SERVICE, OR WILL IT ALSO BE ADDRESSING THOSE WHO HAD TO HAVE SERVED, BUT HAS SINCE PASSED.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE LIKE THE SIZE OF THE CAPITAL CAMPAIGN? LIKE HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE, NEED TO BE RAISED? WOULD YOU LIKE ME OR TAKE THAT? THAT'D BE GREAT.

OKAY.

UH, FIRST QUESTION IS THE, UM, THE CENTERPIECE IT'S A SIX SIDED, UH, UH, HAS A SOCRATIC BASE IN THE CENTERPIECE WILL BE, UH, THE CHARACTERS WILL BE FOUR FOOT HIGH AND ON THE BASE ON THE SIDE OF THE, UH, UH, OF THE SIDE, WHICH SHOULD BE HOPEFULLY, UH, BLACK GRANITE, UH, THE, UH, THE, UH, UH, NAMES WILL BE ABOVE THAT THE KIA'S WERE BEING ENGRAVED AND, UH, EACH ONE OF THOSE SLATS, FOR EXAMPLE, ONCE ONE SIDE WILL HAVE ALL VIETNAM.

ONE SIDE WILL HAVE ALL, UH, UH, UH, KOREA, ANOTHER SIDE WE'LL HAVE, UH, ALL, UH, UH, WORLD WAR TWO.

AND SO ON.

NOW, THE VETERANS THAT HAVE SERVED, OKAY, THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT GAVE ALL OKAY.

AND THOSE THAT GAVE SOME ARE GOING TO GO ON THE WALL OR THE FOOD WALL.

SO I BELIEVE THERE ARE SIX BY TWENTIES.

SO WE HAVE ANOTHER SPACE THERE.

I PUT ABOUT 800 NAMES AT 800, 800, UH, EIGHT BY 10 CLACKS ON THERE.

UH, SO, AND, UH, SO THAT, I BELIEVE IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE ASKING, SIR? UH, THAT IS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

AND I FIGURED IT WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO GET THE CLARIFICATION.

YES, SIR.

AND THEN REAL QUICK, WHILE I, WHILE I HAVE YOU ON THE PHONE, WHAT DO YOU THINK

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THE, THE CAPITAL COSTS HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY ESTIMATES AS FAR AS HOW MUCH YOU ALL WILL NEED TO RAISE? I THINK I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU, UH, TO, UH, EITHER, UH, UH, JULIO, DAVID, JULIO, DAVID, I BELIEVE I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S KINDA EARLY TO FIGURE OUT THE, THE BOTTOM DOLLAR, BUT WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT IT IT'LL RUN BETWEEN A ONE AND ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

AND, UH, AND WE PLAN ON RAISING THAT MONEY AND WE FEEL THAT WE CAN DO IT IN A FAST WAY.

ONCE WE GET OUR, THE ADDRESS AND THE LAND GIVEN TO US, WE HAVE, UM, UH, I'M A LIFETIME MEMBER OF THE DAV AM.

I LIKE TO MEMBER OF THE VFW, I'M A LIFETIME MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN LEGION, AND I'VE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL OF THOSE MEMBERS AND THEY'RE ALL AGREEING.

THEY'RE ALL BEHIND US.

AND ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WANT TO HELP CREATE THIS MONUMENT.

SO, UH, I HAVE, UH, I HAVE OTHER, UH, INDIVIDUALS, IT, THEY WILL COME IN AND HELP US, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, I MEAN, UH, UH, DREW BREES, THE QUARTERBACK TO THE NEW ORLEANS SAINTS.

I'VE KNOWN HIM SINCE HE WAS A BABY AND HE WAS WILLING TO COME OVER AND HELP US WITH COMMERCIALS.

SO, UH, THE MONEY, I FEEL IT WILL COMING SOON AND FAST.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK AND, AND, UH, MAKING SURE EVERYBODY IS HONORED AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

WONDERFUL.

UM, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO.

WELL, I THINK IT'S, UM, DEFINITELY A VERY WORTHY PROJECT AND LONG OVERDUE.

SO I'M, I'M REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THIS AS THIS WILL BE HAPPENING.

DO WE HAVE A, UM, MOTION TO RECOMMEND? I WOULD BE HONORED TO MAKE THE MOTION RECOMPOSED MYSELF.

SO WE DO THE MOTION FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND MORGAN.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

OKAY.

I'LL I'M ALL IN FAVOR.

OKAY.

THERE YOU HAVE IT, SAMMY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO WE ARE WHIZZING THROUGH OUR AGENDA.

YAY

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL (Part 2 of 2)]

CHAIR.

YES.

THIS IS SAMMY.

ONE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WAS HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING ON.

GOT ON.

DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM NOW? IS IT JUST, YES.

SURE.

GO AHEAD.

THIS IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT, UM, HANCOCK.

YES MA'AM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, THEY WENT TO ALL THE TROUBLE TO COME THEN.

JUST GO AHEAD AND LET THEM, UM, W W WE'LL BE GLAD TO LISTEN.

OKAY.

UM, ETN DENNETT, DENNIS.

SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCED IT.

UM, YOU SHOULD BE ON THE CALL.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.

OKAY, GREAT.

HI, UH, GOOD MORNING.

UM, MY NAME IS DENNIS.

UM, I GREW UP IN THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD AND HELPED START THE HANCOCK CONSERVANCY OVER THE SUMMER WITH THE HOPE OF MAKING HANCOCK OPEN THROUGH ALL WHO WANT TO ENJOY IT.

UM, SO I'D LIKE TO START MY COMMENT WITH AN, FROM A 1964 CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, WHICH DISCUSSED, WHICH WAS DISCUSSING, UH, THIS VERY PROBLEM, THE FUTURE OF HANCOCK GOLF COURSE.

UM, AND SO IN THIS MEETING, COUNCILMAN EMMA LONG HAD PROPOSED THAT A STUDY OF HANCOCK SHOULD BE MADE TO SEE IF IT SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE USED AS A GOLF COURSE OR, UH, FOR GENERAL RECREATION, AS MANY OTHER PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO USE IT FOR GENERAL RECREATION PURPOSES.

AND, UM, THE CITY MANAGER RESPONDED TO THIS AND I QUOTE, UM, THE GOLF COURSE WOULD BE EVENT, UH, ABANDONED EVENTUALLY AS THE NINE HOLE GOLF COURSE IS NOT ECONOMICAL.

IT DEFINITELY WOULD BE ELIMINATED IF ANOTHER GOLF COURSE IS CONSTRUCTED.

AND SO DESPITE THE CONSTRUCTION OF SEVERAL, UM, GOLF COURSES SINCE, AND HANCOCK'S CONTINUED CONTINUING BUDGET DEFICIT, NO PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE IN THIS DIRECTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD HOPE, UM, IN PARDES LONG RANGE PLAN, BECAUSE IT SUGGESTED THAT THEY WOULD STUDY THE FEASIBILITY OF GOLF AND OTHER RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN ENHANCE THE SUSTAINABILITY OF HANCOCK.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO THIS W HAD LED ME TO IMAGINE THAT, UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF HANCOCK PARK WOULD BE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED, HOWEVER, THE NGF REPORT AND PART'S CURRENT DIRECTION ON THIS ISSUE, ALL BUT DISMISSED, MAKING HANCOCK AT PASSIVE PARK.

UM, SO I

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I'D ASK, YOU KNOW, THE PARKS BOARD TO, UM, REQUEST THE SERIOUS EVALUATION OF MAKING ALL OF HANCOCK, A PASSIVE PARK, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY, UH, YEAH, CONDUCT A STUDY BECAUSE I KNOW FROM THE WORK I'VE DONE REACHING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY OVER THE SUMMER, UM, AND YOU KNOW, JUST MY EXPERIENCE LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO SEE HANCOCK BE A PARK, UM, IF NOT A OVERWHELMING MAJORITY.

UM, YEAH, SO I JUST, UM, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, TAKING THIS COMMENT AND, UH, HOPEFULLY, UM, THIS CAN BE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

[B6. Make a recommendation to the City Council regarding modifications to Austin City Code for naming or renaming a park facility or feature. Presenters: Board Members Anna DiCarlo and Francoise Luca]

OKAY.

SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE, THE NON-CONSENT AGENDA.

THE FIRST ITEM IS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE MODIFICATIONS TO AUSTIN CITY CODE FOR NAMING OR RENAMING A PARK FACILITY OR FEATURE.

AND WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR OWN BOARD MEMBERS, UM, THE CARLO AND LUCA WHO ARE GOING TO PRESENT ON THIS.

THANK YOU LADIES.

AND THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPANT IN THE WORKING GROUP ON THIS TOO.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UM, IF WE COULD GET OUR PRESENTATION UP, I'LL GET STARTED ON THAT.

YOUR PRESENTATION WILL BE UP IN JUST A SECOND.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

BOARD MEMBER.

DECARLO'S JUST, YOU TWO ARE THE ONLY ONES IN THIS GROUP, RIGHT? UH, YES, WE DID BEGIN THE WORK GROUP, UH, WITH, UM, ROM TEAM WAS IN OUR WORK GROUP AS WELL.

HE UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO DROP OUT, UM, BUT A FEW MONTHS IN, SO IT'S MAINLY BEEN BOARD MEMBER, LUCA AND I FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WE WILL, AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THE TIME TO DO THIS, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU IF IT'S, IF IT'S GONNA WORK.

YEAH.

YEP, SURE.

IT'S MY FAULT.

I FORGOT TO DROP IT IN THE FOLDER WHEN I GOT IT YESTERDAY.

DON'T WORRY.

NO WORRIES.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION WHILE WE WAIT? SURE.

IS IT, I DON'T WANT TO GET OUT OF THE APPROPRIATE ORDER OF THINGS.

WELL, WE'LL SEE.

WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION.

SO I READ THROUGH THE RED LINE OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE RESOLUTION, AND, UH, THERE'S SEVERAL CHANGES IS THE, THIS IS THE BOTTOM LINE, LIKE THE MAIN CHANGES THAT YOU COULDN'T NAME A PARK AFTER A PERSON THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN CHANGES.

UM, I WOULD SAY OUR OTHER MAIN CHANGES ARE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT CHANGES, AS WELL AS JUST MAKING THE PROCESS CLEAR FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.

OKAY.

AND ASIDE FROM THIS WORKING GROUP, HAS THAT PROPOSAL TO NOT USE PERSONS NAMES FOR PARKS THEN DISCUSSED IN ANY OTHER FORUMS THAT YOU KNOW OF? YES, IT HAS.

OKAY.

UH, THIS IS FRANCOISE LUCCA.

UH, YES, WE DISCUSSED IT AS A BOARD MANY TIMES.

UM, AND THIS WOULD INCLUDE NOT ONLY PARKS, BUT PARKS FACILITIES, AND THE, THERE ARE SEVERAL CONCERNS.

AND IF YOU ALLOW US TO READ THROUGH THIS SHORT PRESENTATION, I THINK WE'LL ASK FOR MOST OF THESE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

THANKS SAMMY.

UM, OKAY.

SO FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, A BOARD MEMBER, LUCA AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON EVALUATING THE NAMING AND RENAMING ORDINANCE AND DISCUSSING HOW IT COULD BE IMPROVED.

AND SO TODAY WE'RE BRINGING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE REST OF THE BOARD.

AND NEXT SIDE, PLEASE.

OKAY.

SO YOU MAY BE WONDERING HOW AND WHY THIS ALL CAME ABOUT.

UM, SO THROUGH PREVIOUS RENAMINGS OF OUR PARKS AND PARKS FACILITIES HAVE COME TO THE PARKS BOARD.

UH,

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WE SAW THAT THE CURRENT PROCESS AND TIMELINE HAD CAUSED MUCH CONFUSION AMONG APPLICANTS, AS WELL AS AMONG COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO WERE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING FEEDBACK ON A PROPOSED NAME OR NAME CHANGE.

UM, AND SO WE'VE ALSO LEARNED THAT NAMINGS OF PARKS CAN BE A COST IN STAFFING BURDEN TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE NAMING OR RENAMING ARE INITIALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE APPLICANT.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL HAS WAIVED THOSE FEES MANY TIMES.

AND SO THAT MEANS THAT HARD IS SHOULDERING.

THEN CHILDREN'S IT'S COSTS.

UH, WE'VE LEARNED THAT, UH, NAMING OR RENAMING CAN COST ANYWHERE BETWEEN 1000 AND $10,000.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, WE'VE ALSO SEEN THAT WITH SOME NAMINGS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THE BOARD, THAT MUCH OF THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN UNAWARE OF A PROPOSED NAME, AND THEREFORE HASN'T HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE INPUT IN A TIMELY MANNER.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS SLIDE PROVIDES A HIGHLIGHT OF OUR RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE.

UM, HOPEFULLY YOU'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW OUR EXACT LANGUAGE SUGGESTIONS IN THAT RED LINE DOCUMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND MOVING FORWARD, THE LANGUAGE MAY NOT BE EXACTLY AS WE HAVE WRITTEN IT AS IT WOULD ALSO NEED TO BE REVIEWED BY THE PARD LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

UM, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO SUGGEST ACTUAL LANGUAGE AS OPPOSED TO JUST IDEAS OF HOW IT COULD BE CHANGED.

UM, SO DO THE DUE TO THE REASONS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, WE HAVE ADDED MORE REQUIREMENTS TO THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF AND HAS AMPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE BEST OF STAFF ABILITY.

UH, WE HAVE REMOVED THAT PARKS AND PARKS FACILITIES MAY BE NAMED AFTER ANY INDIVIDUAL DEAD OR ALIVE AND ARE INSTEAD ENCOURAGING THAT PARKS AND PARKS FACILITIES, UM, BE NAMED AFTER, UH, GEOGRAPHICAL HISTORICAL OR CURRENT CULTURAL SURROUNDINGS, UM, NEAR THAT PARK OR PARK FACILITY TO BE NAMED.

UH, WE ARE STILL ALLOWING, OR WE'RE STILL IN FAVOR OF HAVING PARK FEATURES NAMED IN HONOR OF INDIVIDUALS.

AND THAT WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS THAT IS CURRENTLY IN PLACE.

UM, AND A PART FEATURE COULD INCLUDE ANYTHING LIKE A SWIMMING POOL, A BASEBALL FIELD, A PAVILION THAT IS WITHIN A PARK.

AND AS YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN OUR NAMING TIMELINE DOCUMENT, WE HAVE REALLY TRIED TO PROVIDE ALL THE DETAILS ANYONE WOULD EVER WANT AND NEED IF SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION FOR RENAMING, OR IF YOU'RE REVIEWING AN APPLICATION OR JUST FOLLOWING AN APPLICATION ALONG TO THE ACTUAL TIME THAT THE NAME WOULD BE CHANGED, WE HAVE PROVIDED SET DAYS OR SUGGESTED SET DAYS FOR HOW LONG THINGS SHOULD TAKE WHAT IS TO BE EXPECTED.

I, WHICH WE'RE REALLY HOPING WILL CLEAR THINGS UP A LOT FOR, FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE ARE ASKING THAT COST BE KNOWN TO APPLICANTS UPFRONT SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE A PLAN TO COVER THOSE COSTS AND PROTECT THOSE COSTS FROM BEING TAKEN OUT OF THE PART BUDGET.

UM, AND SO THAT'S IT FOR ME.

AND SO NOW, UM, PASS IT OVER TO BOARD MEMBER LUCA TO PRESENT OUR PROPOSED RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU, MUTED.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WE WOULD, UH, BEFORE I ASKED FOR THE, UM, FOR THE MOTION, I'D LIKE TO DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PROCESS.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE STARTED AT THE BEGINNING WITH WHAT THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE, UM, OF THE ORDINANCE, UM, WAS, AND WE COMPARED THE NAMING CRITERIA AND GUIDELINES, UM, ACROSS ALL CITY, UM, AND THE SPECIAL SITUATIONS.

AND IF YOU READ THE DOCUMENTS, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE PROTOCOLS FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUILDINGS WITHIN THE CITY'S, UM, BUILDING PORTFOLIO.

AND, UH, AND WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE LANGUAGE ALIGNED WITH WHAT, UM, OTHER FACILITIES WOULD, UM, POTENTIALLY USE AS WELL.

AND SO, UH, AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION AND MANY MONTHS OF WORK, WE, UH, DEVELOP THE RED LINE THAT YOU SAW, UM,

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IN YOUR RECORDS.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE PARKS BOARD, UM, RECOMMEND TO THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL TO INCORPORATE THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE NAMING AND RENAMING PROCESS MORE TRANSPARENT, MORE EFFICIENT, AND LESS COSTLY TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

ANY QUESTIONS I DO HAVE A QUICK, I'M NOT SURE I'M CLEAR ON IT, BUT, UH, NUMBER THREE, THERE WAS, UH, IT SEEMED TO BE, THERE WOULD BE, UH, AN ALLOWANCE FOR MEANING AFTER PEOPLE WHO WERE DONATORS OF A BUILDING OR A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO A PARK FACILITY, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

CLAWS ALREADY EXIST.

AND WHAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WAS THAT, UH, THOSE COSTS WERE, UM, REVIEWED AND IN, I THINK OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT, UH, THEY TAKE ON A HIGHER, UM, LEVEL OF RESPONSE, FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR DONATION.

I HAVE A CONCERN IF WE'RE NOT NAMING AFTER INDIVIDUALS, BUT EXCEPT FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WEALTHY ENOUGH TO MAKE THOSE KIND OF CONTRIBUTIONS, THAT IT SEEMS TO ME, IT WOULD, IT SORT OF PERPETUATES SYSTEMIC ECONOMIC INEQUALITY OF WHO GETS A PARK NAMED AFTER THEM OR A PARK FACILITY.

SO OF BUILDINGS AND OTHER THINGS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST MAKING CONTRIBUTIONS VALUABLE TO THEIR COMMUNITY.

I RECOMMEND MAYBE RECONSIDER, UM, NAMING AFTER PEOPLE WHO ARE DONATING.

MAYBE WE FIND ANOTHER WAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR GIFTS.

I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST STRUCK ME AS A INCONSISTENCY THERE.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU PROFESSOR BOARD MEMBER LUCA.

THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY.

UM, I WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE DEFINITION OF PARK, THE PARK FACILITIES AND PARKS FEATURES.

UM, WE ALSO HAD TO ALLOW SUFFICIENT ROOM FOR THE CONSERVANCIES AND THE OTHER EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT HAVE BEEN PARTNERS WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

SO, UM, THAT'S WHY WE WERE VERY CAREFUL IN THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE LANGUAGE RECOMMENDATION.

THE CONCERN THAT WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS WAS THAT, UM, THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH DISCUSSION IN THE LAST FEW YEARS ABOUT HOW TO RECOGNIZE, UM, PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THEIR SERVICE.

AND, UM, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THAT SOME OF THE, UM, PREVIOUS NAMES, UM, HAVE, UM, OR FACILITIES HAVE HAD REQUESTS FOR RENAMING BECAUSE OF A PAST HISTORY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

AND SO AS YOU PROBABLY HAVE READ IN THE NEWS, THERE WERE ALL SORTS OF SCHOOLS THAT WERE RENAMED AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER FACILITIES.

SO WHAT WE WERE SUGGESTING IS THAT FROM A POINT IN TIME, WE MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD, TO, UM, ALLOW VERY LARGE FACILITIES, TO BE NAMED FOR GEOGRAPHIC HISTORICAL CULTURAL, UH, LANDMARKS, SO TO SPEAK, AND THEN USE OUR PARK FEATURES ARE, UH, UH, PERHAPS A BASKETBALL COURT OR A SPECIFIC, UM, WE, OR A SPECIFIC FEATURE WITHIN OUR PARKS FOR FOLIO TO USE THOSE THINGS, TO RECOGNIZE, UM, FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT DESERVE THAT RECOGNITION.

SO I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR FINANCIAL CONCERN.

UM, BUT, UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE SITUATION THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT, UM, WE PROPOSE, UM, THERE'S STILL DISCRETION AT COUNCIL LEVEL TO WAIVE ANY, UM, FEES, UH, FOR THE COST OF IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THESE NAMES.

UM, WELL, I MEAN, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK.

I KNOW THAT YOU'VE DONE ON THIS, AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS AND YOU USED YOUR EXPERIENCE ON DIFFERENT RENAMING PROPOSALS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU OBVIOUSLY DID AN EXTENSIVE RESEARCH AND WORKING ON THE RED LINE.

I THINK THE COST ISSUES

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ARE REALLY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER.

I DO ECHO BOARD MEMBER, COTTON SEIBEL'S, UM, COMMENT, AND THAT WHEN I READ THIS AND NOTED THAT YOU COULD NAME A PARK FACILITY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL THAT DEEDS LAND TO THE CITY FOR A FACILITY OR CONTRIBUTES SOME LARGE AMOUNT OF THE COST, AND THAT'S THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN HAVE A PARK OR PARK FACILITY NAMED THEM.

I DO THINK THAT'S, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT DOESN'T QUITE READ RIGHT TO ME, SORT OF, UM, UH, THE EXAMPLE, LET ME JUST, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN IT, BUT IT FEELS A LITTLE INSENSITIVE.

THE EXAMPLE THAT IMMEDIATELY CAME TO MIND FOR ME WAS JUST TO USE AN EXISTING ONE, WAS, UM, THE MARY FRANCIS BAYLOR POCKET PARK IN CLARKSVILLE.

I MEAN, TO ME, THE NAME OF THAT PARK IS JUST, UH, MAKES AN IM IS AN IMPORTANT RECOGNITION OF THAT.

A LOT OF THE HISTORY IN THAT COMMUNITY AND OF HER CONTRIBUTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK, UM, FOR GENERATIONS, THE, JUST THE, KIND OF THE FIBER OF THAT COMMUNITY AND TO HAVE THE NAME OF THAT PARK, I THINK THERE IS, IS IMPORTANT AND RECOGNIZES A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT CLARKSVILLE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE WHERE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S NAMED DR.

A PERSON AND NOT A PERSON THAT DONATED LAND.

UM, AND I THINK THERE'S A FEW OTHER EXAMPLES, UM, I COULD THINK OF.

AND SO I WOULD BE HESITANT TO NOT, NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE LIKE THAT MOVING FORWARDS.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME, IF YOU CAN JUST NAME A, YOU KNOW, A SPLASH PAD OR A BASKETBALL COURT COURT AFTER THEM, IF IT, IF IT HAS THE SAME LEVEL OF RECOGNITION, I ALSO AM.

I, I WILL SAY I REALLY LIKE, UM, INCLUDING THE IDEA OF USING GEOGRAPHIC FEATURES AND NATURE-BASED THING, IT FEELS LIKE SOMETIMES WE USE LIKE THE NATURE BASED ELEMENTS GET, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT NAME GETS USED FOR LIKE THE NAME OF THE MALL, BUT NOT THE ACTUAL PARK OR THE FUTURE.

SO I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

UM, BUT, AND THEN MY OTHER, SO THEN KIND OF BACK TO USING THE PERSON'S NAMES, I'M NOT QUITE SURE I UNDERSTAND, LIKE THE DIFFERENCE, EVEN LOOKING AT THE DEFINITIONS, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS DIDN'T CHANGE THE DEFINITIONS, BUT SO TO USE ANOTHER EXAMPLE, LIKE I THINK A FEW YEARS AGO, THEY NAMED THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AFTER ROBERTA CRENSHAW.

UM, AND I WAS WONDERING LIKE HOW THAT TYPE OF NAMING WOULD FIT IN TO THIS NEW STRUCTURE, IF THAT'S A PARK FACILITY OR A PARK FEATURE.

UM, DO YOU GUYS KNOW THAT? I MEAN, I'M, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF LIKE EXISTING EXAMPLES AND HOW IT WOULD WORK MOVING FORWARDS IF WE'D HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THOSE THINGS.

SO YOU BRING UP A LOT OF GOOD POINTS.

UM, UH, WE, WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING TO GO BACK AND I SAY THAT'S ALREADY, UM, BUT JUST WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE THINGS WERE, UH, ASKED TO BE RENAMED, UH, BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS, UM, HONOREE WAS DISFAVORED FOR WHATEVER REASON, BUT THEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF, UH, OTHER ALTERNATIVE NAMES COME UP.

UM, WE WERE ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT NOT, UH, DISCOURAGING GIFTS TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

AND, UM, IF WE DO NOT RECOGNIZE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DONATE, UM, LARGE TRACKS OF LAND, ALL RIGHT, AT THIS POINT, ANY TRACKS OF LAND, UM, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A DISSERVICE TO THE PARKS SYSTEM.

SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LEFT THAT WINDOW OPEN, THAT OPPORTUNITY OPENS TO, UH, ENCOURAGE DONATIONS OF LAND.

UM, AND, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN ABOUT HOW DO WE RECOGNIZE, UM, PEOPLE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE DONE SO MUCH FOR THE COMMUNITY, OR SPECIFICALLY, SPECIFICALLY FOR PARKS.

AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT THAT WAS THE MOTIVATION BEHIND THE NAMING OF CERTAIN FACILITIES AND THAT, UM, THAT MOTIVATION STAY AS PURE AS POSSIBLE.

RIGHT.

AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO BACK.

I WAS TRYING TO USE AN EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, TO SAY A NAMING THAT I THINK WAS DEFINITELY WELL AND, AND APPROPRIATELY, AND THAT, THAT WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE IF THERE WAS A SIMILAR SITUATION.

AND, AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAW THE, UM, IN THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, THERE'S QUITE A FEW ACQUISITIONS WHERE PLACES THAT ARE GOING TO NEED NAMES.

AND

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SO THIS WOULD APPLY TO THOSE MOVING FORWARDS.

IS THERE ANY, DO YOU ALL KNOW THE ANSWER ABOUT SORT OF LIKE THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AND OTHER KINDS OF TYPES OF THINGS, HOW THEY FIT INTO THIS? I BELIEVE THAT PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE IS NOT A RECREATION DEPARTMENT ASSET AND THE ORDINANCE, THERE IS A SPECIFIC, THERE ARE SPECIFIC NAMING REGULATIONS FOR NON-HARD SPACES.

UM, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT PART.

I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THAT PART OF YOU MAY BE ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT, BUT I'LL CONFIRM THAT FOR YOU ASSETS NON-POWERED ASSETS HAVE THEIR OWN, HAVE THEIR OWN REGULATE, HAVE THEIR OWN RULES OR CRITERIA.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, FOR MEMBER DIPLOMA, I MEAN, IT, WASN'T A QUESTION BY, CAN I GO AHEAD? I MEAN, LIKE A COMMENT OR MY THOUGHTS ONE, THANK YOU BOTH FOR, FOR PUTTING SO MUCH TIME INTO IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE FRUSTRATIONS AND CHALLENGES THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS.

AND FRANKLY, I AGREE WITH FOUR OF THE FIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS ROBUST AND TRANSPARENT COMMITTEE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND INCLUDING ENCOURAGING THE NAMES OF FACILITIES FOR, YOU KNOW, GEOGRAPHIC, HISTORICAL CULTURAL, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE, THE TIMELINE AND MAKING SURE THAT THE COSTS ARE COVERED AND NOT COMING OUT OF PART A BUDGET, BUT I HAVE REAL EQUITY ISSUES WITH, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY I WAS KIND OF HOPING, YOU KNOW, AND I APPRECIATE MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, FAUST AND COTTON.

CYBIL BRINGING THESE SORT OF QUESTIONS UP BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHAT I SEE IS KIND OF A, GOING BACK TO AN OLD AUSTIN WHERE YOU HAD TO BE THE, YOU KNOW, GOVERNOR PIECE OR, YOU KNOW, UH, ZILKER, ANDREW OR SOMEBODY ELSE MAKING A LAND DONATION, UH, MARY MORRISSEY, RIGHT.

TO MAKING THE LAND DONATION, OR DO YOU HAVE YOUR NAME AND WHERE, YOU KNOW, REFLECTING, WHY DO WE RENAME PARTS, OR WHY DID WE NAME PARKS AND ASSETS? YOU KNOW, ONE IS TO HONOR INSPIRE THEIR LIFE'S WORK IN CONTRIBUTION THAT'S MADE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THE REALITY IS EVERY GENERATION OF AUSTINITES CAN POINT TO FOLKS THAT MADE A CONTRIBUTION TO THEIR, THEIR ERA.

AND WE SEE THIS GOING BACK, YOU KNOW, FROM GOVERNOR PEACE'S ORIGINAL DONATION OF PEACE PARK, UM, ALL THE WAY THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, REALLY IN MOST RECENT GENERATION, WHEN YOU FINALLY STARTED TO SEE THAT IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE IT WAS STARTING AROUND THE EIGHTIES.

SO MORE ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS FOR THE OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY, THE HISPANIC AND AFRICAN AMERICAN PORTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAD BEEN LEFT OUT OF THESE, YOU KNOW, THESE HONORS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND YEAH, WITHIN THAT, YOU KNOW, JOHN TREVINO GHETTO, YOU KNOW, UH, AND I'VE GOT EMMA LONG, DR.

EVERETT, YOU KNOW, GIBBONS, DOTTIE JORDAN, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLKS IN CHARLES PAGE, WILLIAM CASWELL, THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT FOLKS.

SO THEN YOU HAVE THE NUMBER.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE TO HONOR AND FIRE NUMBER TWO, TO RECOGNIZE THE SINGLISH PARK EMPLOYEES FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR SERVICE TO OUR PARKS.

SO BEVERLY SHEFFIELD, YOU KNOW, PARK GARRISON, YOU KNOW, GARRISON DISTRICT PARK, UH, ROY AGAIN, ROY GHETTO PARK, YOU KNOW, THESE WERE ALL PAST, UH, KNOW SUPERINTENDENTS OF OUR PARK.

AND THEN MORE RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD IN JULY, 2019, LOUIS, YOU KNOW, RENEE BARRERA, INDIAN GRASS, WILDLIFE SANCTUARY THAT CAME TO US FROM THE PARKS STAFF, JUNE 20, 20 RENAMING, A METS RECREATION CENTER TO RUDOLFO RUDY MENDEZ RECREATION CENTER, AGAIN, ANOTHER PARKS EMPLOYEE.

AND THEN WE, THEN WE SEE, LIKE, WE RECOGNIZE THE OTHER REC THE DONATION OF PARKLAND AND TALK ABOUT MARY MORRISSEY, RIGHT.

AND, YOU KNOW, ANDREW ZILKER AND, AND SUCH.

AND THEN, THEN WE HAVE LIKE A FOURTH ONE, YOU KNOW, TO CONNECT PEOPLE TO THE HISTORY OF THE LAND.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, DITMAR PARK IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE WAS ONCE OWNED, UH, WHAT WAS ONCE A LARGE DAIRY FARM OWNED BY EIGHT OFF BARNHART.

AND THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CONNECTING THE PEOPLE TO PLACE, UM, WHERE IT'S CONNECTING THE PEOPLE TO THE LAND ITSELF WITH ONION CREEK METROPOLITAN PARK, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WANTING TO HAVE TO HEAVILY GO INTO THAT DIRECTION, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO MISSING, LIKE IT'S SIX AND EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT IN THE HEEL.

SO SOME OF IT, WHEN WE LOOK AT LIKE GIBBONS PARK, UM, AFTER DR.

GIBBONS OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER, UH, UM, RECREATION CENTER WHERE WE HAVE THESE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU HAVE NEGLECTED COMMUNITIES, AND THEY'VE BEEN ADVOCATES FOR THE COMMUNITY IN THE CASE OF DR.

GIBBONS AGAINST EXTRAORDINARILY CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU KNOW,

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AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY TRYING TO GET A VOICE IN OFTEN, BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE THINGS WHERE YOU HEALING, WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS JUST SO IMPACTED BY A TRAGEDY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THINKING OF KENDRA PAGE, NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, WHERE THE YOUNG GAL WHO WOULD BE ALMOST MY AGE WAS KILLED TRAGICALLY, UM, YEAH.

BY A MONSTROUS INDIVIDUAL AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE AGE OF EIGHT YEARS OLD.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN THAT PARK WAS ULTIMATELY NAMED AFTER HER 12 YEARS OLD, 12 YEARS LATER, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, TO BRING SOME OF THAT HEALING THAT'S STILL NEEDED TO HAPPEN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE ON THE NAMING SIDE.

I THINK WHAT WILL, WHAT IT GENERATES IS THE FUTURE WHERE WE HAVE MORE AND GOD, GOD HOPES, I HOPE WE, WE GET RID OF ECONOMIC DISPARITY, PARTICULARLY SOCIOECONOMIC, AND THAT YOU CAN BE LATINO AND YOU CAN BE ASIAN.

YOU CAN BE AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND HAVE THESE LARGE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING CLOSER.

YOU'RE CLOSE TO EVERYDAY, BUT WE'RE FAR FROM IT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NAMES OF THESE PARKS THAT WE'VE BROUGHT FORWARD, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY REFLECTIVE OUR COMMUNITY AND WHO ARE WE LEAVING OUT? SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT REASON, I, I, I CAN'T BE SUPPORTIVE OF ELIMINATING THE NAMING ONE.

UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S