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DO MY BEST TO, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT, MAKE IT SMOOTH.

I'M GOING TO CALL

[CALL TO ORDER]

THE MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING.

AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION TODAY IS DECEMBER 7TH AND WE ARE ONLINE VIA CISCO WEBEX EVENTS, WEBEX X, X, X.

UM, WE'RE GOING

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

TO START A MEETING WITH THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

I THINK WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS ON THE, UH, ON THE AGENDA.

AM I RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU, CAM.

UH, LET'S LET'S UH, JUST CALL THAT PERSON.

LET'S GET IT GOING.

DO YOU CALL THEM BY NAME AND THEN THEY'LL COME ON.

OH, I DON'T KNOW.

DID I GET A LIST? YEAH, SO I SENT YOU A LIST EARLIER, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

I CAN CALL THEM FOR YOU.

THANK YOU, KIMBERLY.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T, MAYBE I MISSED THAT.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THERE SHOULD BE A T TRL.

UH, TERRELL DID NOT CALL IN.

OKAY, MOBILEY.

HI, GO AHEAD, MOBILEY.

OKAY.

UH, I'M JUST, UH, CALLING IN TO FOLLOW UP ON A PREVIOUS CONVERSATION I HAD WITH Y'ALL.

I PRESENTED THE IDEA OF, UH, CONDUCTING A SURVEY OF LIVE MUSICIANS IN THE CITY TO, UM, TO TRY TO GET A, A PICTURE OF THE STATE OF THINGS.

UM, ALONG A NUMBER OF VECTORS, UH, IN THE INTERIM, WE HAVE COMPLETED DEVELOPING THE SURVEY WITH MEASURE A NON-PROFIT HERE IN THE CITY.

UM, I AM ALSO ON THE, UH, SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

SO I PRESENTED IT TO THAT GROUP, UM, LAST WEEK, I GUESS, AND, UH, SHAKA WE'LL BE ABLE TO REFILL MORE IN DETAIL ABOUT THIS, BUT, UM, THAT GROUP VOICED IT'S FULL SUPPORT FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION, UM, KIND OF TAKING THIS PROJECT ON BOARD.

UM, WE ALSO TOOK ON SOME, UM, SOME REVISIONS REQUESTED BY THEM IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE.

UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY BASICALLY READY TO DEPLOY THE SURVEY.

UM, WE HAVE HOSTING VIA MEASURE.

WE, UM, HAVE BEGUN CONVERSATIONS WITH A VARIETY OF NONPROFITS AROUND THE CITY ABOUT ALSO BEING PART OF HELPING TO DISSEMINATE THE SURVEY.

UM, BASICALLY ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING AND ALL OF THAT IS DONE.

UH, AND, AND TO REFRESH EVERYBODY'S MEMORY.

THE ASK IS JUST THAT THE, UM, THE MUSIC COMMISSION KIND OF OFFICIALLY, UM, OKAY.

COMMISSION, I GUESS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, THE SURVEY, UM, TO, TO KIND OF GIVE IT THAT, UM, TO HAVE IT UNDER YOUR AUSPICES AND, AND HAVE IT BE UNDERSTOOD AS, UM, AS SOMETHING THAT IS COMING FROM A NEUTRAL PLACE AND A PLACE OF TRYING TO IMPROVE, UM, THE STATE OF AFFAIRS FOR MUSIC WORKERS IN THE CITY.

THANK YOU, MOBILEY.

IS THAT IT? YEAH.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH.

NEXT IS MONICA MONICA HERE.

HI.

ALL RIGHT.

I GO, RIGHT.

OKAY THOUGH, EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS MONICA .

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF AS KINA TRIANGLE.

WE ARE A DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE, AN ICONIC 14 YEAR OLD DANCE AND CULTURAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN EAST AUSTIN, UM, TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE SERVING THE COMMUNITY AND TO BE ABLE TO BE SAVED DURING COVID.

DO WE PEOPLE AND CREATED A VERY INNOVATIVE OUTDOOR CLASSES AND ALSO SAY ORGANIZING SOME EVENTS, FEATURING SOME MUSICIANS THAT HADN'T PLAYED IN ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS, WE BUILD THIS, ESPECIALLY BUILD SO SOCIAL DISTANCE PLATFORMS, UM, VERY, YOU KNOW, APPLYING ALL THE HEALTH CODES, BUT THE CALLS, TEMPERATURE CHECKS.

SO AS WE WERE TRYING TO STAY ALIVE AND SUPPORT MUSICIANS AND INSTRUCTORS, YOU HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE NEED A PERMIT, UM, FOR THE MUSIC PART, BUT A PERMIT CANNOT BE ISSUE WHEN THERE'S A RESIDENCE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME SORT OF A TEMPORARY PERMISSION TO CONTINUE ORGANIZING EVENTS OUTSIDE WHILE IT'S NOT SAFE TO BE INDOORS.

UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN DANCING IS INVOLVED, STRIKING TO SCARE OF THE, OF THE NEIGHBORS.

YOU KNOW, WE FINISHED BY 10:00 PM, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO, TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP, YOU KNOW, GOOD DECIBEL

[00:05:01]

LEVELS AND ALL THAT STUFF.

THE CITY HAS COME UP WITH OTHER PROGRAMS TO HELP DURING THE PANDEMIC, SUCH AS SHOVE THE BLOCK, WHICH LED BUSINESSES EXPAND TO OUTDOOR PARKING LOT.

SO I FEEL LIKE THERE COULD BE A SIMILAR PROGRAM ASSISTANT, A SMALL NONPROFITS THAT JUST ASK THAT ONE TO SUPPORT MUSICIANS AND CULTURE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BECAUSE THESE PROGRAMS ARE VITAL FOR THE FUTURE OF THE CITY.

AND HONESTLY, FOR THE WELLBEING OF THE COMMUNITY, BOTH HEALTH MENTAL, AND, YOU KNOW, AND JUST TO KEEP THE MUSIC ALIVE IN THE WORLD, THE MUSICAL KEPT OUT OF THIS.

HOWEVER THAT IS CALLED.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THANK YOU.

WAIT, HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

SO, UH, DO YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR, UM, FOR, SORRY.

I KNEW THAT, BUT I STILL WANTED THAT.

WELL, UH, YEAH, MONICA, THANK, UM, PLEASE REACH OUT.

UM, I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE, UM, THAT, UH, ARE OUR MEMBERS OR COME TO YOUR PLACE A LOT, SO, YOU KNOW, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME OR SOMEBODY ON THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT INSTITUTION THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HELP YOU OUT.

SO, UM, PLEASE REACH OUT.

YES, I WILL APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

OKAY.

NOW WE MOVE ON TO THAT EXCITING PART OF THE AGENDA HERE, WHERE WE APPROVE THE MINUTES.

HAVE YOU GUYS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OR WOULD YOU NEED TO TAKE A SECOND TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES FROM LAST TIME? MOTION TO APPROVE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY, UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT? ANYBODY OPPOSED TO US MOVING ON WITH THAT NOW? ALL RIGHT.

I GUESS THAT'S GOING TO CARE.

YOU'LL NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON, YOU CAN TAKE A VOTE.

OKAY.

UM, CAN WE TAKE A VOTE ON THAT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT, BUT I THINK THE MOTION CARRIES I'M ASSUMING.

YES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YOU WERE GOOD.

AND CHARLOTTE WAS FROZEN AND THEN SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ON VIDEO, BUT WE HAD A MAJORITY EITHER.

YES.

YEAH.

IT'S HARD.

IT'S HARD TO TELL.

UH, BUT UH, OKAY.

I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THAT'S GOOD.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE

[2.a. Discussion and Possible Action on Music Commission vacant officer elections.]

ON TO A NEW BUSINESS, TO A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSIC COMMISSION, VACANT OFFICER ELECTIONS.

UM, SO I'M, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW TO CARRY THIS OUT.

UH, I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THIS BEFORE, BUT UH, MAYBE SOME FOLKS CAN, CAN HELP ME OUT ON IT.

MAKE A MOTION FOR SHAKA YOU TO BE THE BOARD OR THE COMMISSION CHAIR.

NOW SECOND, DO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO HAVE ANY, LIKE, SHOULD WE ASK IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN, IN BEING A CHAIR RIGHT FIRST OR I DON'T KNOW, HELP ME OUT.

I THINK WE CAN TAKE SEVERAL, CANNOT HEAR ME.

THIS IS GAVIN.

YEAH.

SO WE CAN TAKE SEVERAL NOMINATIONS AND THEN VOTE.

OKAY.

IF THERE'S ONLY ONE NOMINATION, THEN WE TAKE THE BOAT THERE.

THANK YOU, GAVIN.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A NOMINATION FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER GRAHAM REYNOLDS FOR, UH, MYSELF TO BE THE CHAIR AND IT WAS THERE A SECOND.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SECOND.

OKAY.

UM, WERE THERE ANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAD ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS OR IS THAT, IS THAT A NO, NO.

EXCUSE ME.

GOODNESS.

OF THIS MEETING.

YEAH.

I'M JUST, YEAH, IT WAS ALL PLANNED THIS WAY.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME FOREVER TO GET THIS SMOOTH.

I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO NO OTHER NOMINATION.

UM, SO I GUESS WE VOTE ON THAT AND SAY THAT AGAIN.

CAN WE GET A NOMINATION TO CLOSE THE NOMINATION? OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO NOVIA.

OKAY.

WE NEED A NOMINATION TOO.

OH, WOW.

OKAY.

AND DO WE NEED A SECOND ON MAN? OKAY.

AND THEN ARE WE VOTING TO CLOSE IT AND, AND, AND, AND, AND NOMINATE.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS ON CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION AND GUESTS

[00:10:02]

VOTE.

UH, NOW FOR THE CHAIR, IF YOU, IF YOU AGREE, WHO'S IN, UH, WHO AGREES WITH THAT? I THINK WE NEED TO VOTE FIRST ON THE CLOSING AND GET THAT DOCUMENTED AND THEN VOTE ON THE CHAIR.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THOUGH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF US CLOSING THE, UH, THE NOMINATION FOR THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD, PLEASE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

IF YOU, IF YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION, SAY SOMETHING.

OKAY.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, THAT WAS UNANIMOUS ALL RIGHT NOW TO VOTE ON THE ACTUALLY VOTE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE CHAIR.

UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, SHACKLE BEING THE CHAIR OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY AYE OR ALL RIGHT.

I CAN'T TELL IF THAT LOOKS LIKE A RIGHT.

I NEED TO VOTE AS WELL.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND ANYBODY IN OPPOSITION? ALL RIGHT.

I GUESS THAT'S A, THAT'S A UNANIMOUS VOTE.

APPRECIATE Y'ALL I LOOK FORWARD TO MAKING THESE MEETINGS, HUH? WOW.

THAT I COULDN'T.

OH, OH, OH, THIS IS TERRIBLE.

I'M NOT HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE CONNECTION, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE BOTH CHOPPY.

UM, I THINK HE SAID HE WANTS TO NOMINATE AND CHARLOTTE AS VICE-PRESIDENT.

OKAY.

OUTRIGHT.

DO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? I'LL SECOND.

I'LL SECOND THAT, OKAY.

AND, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OKAY.

SO I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO, UH, FOR, UH, FOLKS TO CLOSE THE NOMINATION ON THE VICE CHAIR, MOTION TO CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS, WHATEVER GRAHAM JUST SAID, ANYBODY, EVEN ONE SECOND.

THAT SECOND PATRICE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO ALL IN FAVOR OF, AND CHARLOTTE BEING THE VICE CHAIR OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL OPPOSED.

OKAY.

THAT LOOKS LIKE I WAS UNANIMOUS AS WELL.

IT'S HARD TO TELL, BUT, UH, AWESOME.

OKAY.

WHAT ABOUT THE SECRETARY POSITION? UM, DO WE HAVE A NOMINATION FOR THE SECRETARY POSITION WHO IS CURRENTLY SECRETARY? I AM.

I'LL DO IT.

OH, WAIT, WHAT NOMINATED ORRIN ROSENTHAL FOR THAT, MS. PATRICE.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR A SECRETARY POSITION? SO NOVIA IS OREN AUSTIN.

YES.

WARREN'S PARLIAMENTARIAN.

YEAH.

UM, MAYBE WE SHOULD VOTE ON ELIMINATING THE PARLIAMENTARIAN POSITION BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MUCH.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IN, IN ANY CASE I'M HAPPY TO HOLD THE TWO OF THEM CONCURRENTLY.

UH, BASICALLY WHATEVER, WHATEVER I NEED TO ASSIST THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR IS WHAT I WILL DO AS SECRETARY AND OR PARLIAMENTARIAN, WHATEVER.

OKAY.

UM, HOW, WHAT IS THAT? UH, I CAN'T BELIEVE SOME OF YOU HELPED ME OUT.

DOES THAT, IS THAT MAKES SENSE? I WOULDN'T NEED TO CHECK THE BYLAWS.

CAN I DON'T HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF IT? YEAH.

THE PARLIAMENTARIAN WAS ADDED, I GUESS, ABOUT COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

UM, SO I DON'T, I, I WOULD IMAGINE, UH, THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN DO AWAY WITH IT IF THEY WENT TO, BUT I CAN CHECK WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO SEE HOW THEY DO THAT.

UH, THE POSITION ISN'T ACTUALLY WRITTEN INTO THE BYLAWS.

OKAY.

AND WE CAN ALSO, ALSO IF WE TO FUND THE, UH, THE SECRETARY POSITION, SO WE HAD A SECOND, UM, UH, IS THERE ANYONE

[00:15:01]

WITH A MOTION TO CLOSE THE NOMINATIONS? OKAY.

A SECOND, SECOND.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW WE VOTE, UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE OREN AS A SECRETARY? WHO'S LIKE, OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

AYE.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE OPPOSE.

ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU HAVE THE RECORDING OF THAT KIMBERLY ON YOUR HAND? I GOT IT.

OKAY.

AWESOME.

WELL, I'M DEFINITELY EXCITED TO TAKE THIS ON WITH Y'ALL.

I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE SOME, SOME, SOME NEW, NEW ENERGY AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO REALLY SEEING WHAT 20, 21 AND THE, AND THE FUTURE OF AUSTIN MUSIC LOOKS LIKE.

I THINK WE'VE DEFINITELY COME THROUGH A LOT IN THE LAST YEAR AS A GROUP.

UM, I'M SEEING MORE, MORE CONNECTIONS AND DEEPER, DEEPER, WILLINGNESS TO, TO WORK ON SOME VERY DIFFICULT TOPICS AND THINGS.

UM, SO I'M EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH EVERYONE AND, UH, I HOPE, UH, TO DIG IN A LITTLE DEEPER, UM, MOVING FORWARD.

SO I DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING WITH EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THE MEETINGS AND JUST LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT YOUR SPECIFIC INTERESTS ARE WITHIN YOUR DISTRICTS AND START TO CREATE VISIONS FOR, FOR THE DISTRICTS IN GENERAL, BUT ALSO THE MUSIC COMMISSION AS A WHOLE, UM, IN TERMS OF THE, THE MISSION AND THE VISION THAT WE HAVE FOR THE MUSIC COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

SO I'M ALSO WANT TO SEND SOME, YOU KNOW, LOVE AND RESPECT TO RICK CARNEY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT HE DID, UM, AND OVER, OVER THE YEARS.

AND, YOU KNOW, JUST IF HE'S LISTENING AND JUST, JUST THANK HIM FOR ALL HIS LEADERSHIP OVER THE YEARS, SO APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, OKAY.

SO WHERE ARE WE AT? UH, LET ME PULL UP THIS AGENDA SIDE.

OKAY.

SO THAT IS THAT TO

[2.b. Discussion and Possible Action on Music Commission appointee to the Austin Economic Development Corporation (AEDC).]

BE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSIC COMMISSION, APPOINTEE TO THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

UM, ANYBODY LIKES TO TAKE THE FLOOR ON THIS TO, UM, TO DISCUSS YES, I'D LIKE THE FLOOR.

UM, SO THE AEDC IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

UM, UH, LAST MONTH WE HEARD A PRESENTATION FROM DAVID COLLAGEN ON WHAT'S INVOLVED, BUT JUST TO QUICKLY SUMMARIZE IT, THIS IS GOING TO BE A CORPORATION THAT IS MANAGED BY A COMBINATION OF A WELL IT'S CALLED A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IS GOVERNED BY A BOARD WHICH CONTAINS SOME, UM, UH, W W WHICH CONTAINS SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE DESIGNATED.

IT ACTUALLY CONTAINS 15 PEOPLE THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR THEIR AREAS OF EXPERTISE THAT, UM, THAT THAT WAS ALL INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION.

UH, SOMEWHERE DOWN HERE, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT THEM WRITTEN DOWN, BUT ONE OF THE DESIGNEES IS TO BE RECOMMENDED BY THE ARTS ART BY, BY THE ARTS AND ONE BY MUSIC.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE BOTH ON HERE.

NOW.

WE NEED TO DECIDE WHO THIS PERSON IS GOING TO BE IN THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE THESE NOMINATIONS IN BY LATE JANUARY.

SO THAT REALLY DOESN'T GIVE US MUCH TIME WITH THE HOLIDAYS COMING UP.

SO I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AFTER SOME, SOME DISCUSSIONS, THERE'S THREE ESSENTIAL THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO FILL THIS ROLE.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, SOMEONE WITH DEEP KNOWLEDGE OF THE WORK CONDITIONS OF AUSTIN MUSICIANS, OF ALL BACKGROUNDS AND SOCIOECONOMIC LEVELS AND THE AUSTIN MUSIC INDUSTRY.

SECOND, WE GOT SOMEONE WITH A STRONG COMMITMENT TO INCREASING EQUITY AND THIRD IN HISTORY OF ACHIEVEMENT AND MANAGEMENT AT HIGH LEVELS OF POWER.

SO WE WANT SOMEONE WHO KNOWS MUSIC SOMEONE'S, WHO WHO'S COMMITTED TO OUR GOALS OF EQUITY AND SOMEONE WHO'S REALLY GOOD AT GETTING THINGS DONE.

AND THAT'S A TALL ORDER, AND THIS IS NOT A PAID POSITION EITHER.

UH, NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE JUST ONE OF 15 PEOPLE ON THE BOARD.

THE FIRST IMPORTANT JOB OF THE BOARD WILL BE AND DECIDE WHO THE CEO OF THIS CORPORATION IS GOING TO BE.

[00:20:01]

AND THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION, BECAUSE THE FIRST THING THERE, BECAUSE WHAT THE COUNCIL IS EXPECTING THIS, UM, UH, THIS, THIS CORPORATION TO DO IS ONE CREATE A CULTURAL TRUST AND TO DEVELOP THE WATERFRONT AREAS, BOTH OF WHICH HAVE TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THE, UH, ON AUSTIN MUSIC.

SO THE, THE COMMISSION ITSELF IS NOT REALLY WELL-DESIGNED FOR DISCUSSION ON THESE THINGS.

I'VE ASKED EVERYBODY TO MAKE YOUR SUBMISSIONS TO ME AND REACH OUT TO ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, IN THE, NOT ONLY THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, BUT IN ANY PARTICULAR THAT YOU, UM, UH, THAT, THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, RIGHT? THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL REPRESENTATIVE OF DIFFERENT SKILL SETS.

FOR EXAMPLE, I'M ACTIVE IN PARTY POLITICS, I'VE ROUNDED UP SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE ACTIVE IN, IN PARTY POLITICS THAT COULD BE GOOD FOR THIS ROLE.

UH, THOSE OF THOSE OF YOU IN MUSIC, THOSE OF YOU IN PROMOTION, UM, UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHEREVER W UH, WHEREVER YOU, YOU RUN IN CIRCLES, PLEASE THINK OF THE VERY BEST PEOPLE AND SUBMIT THEM.

AND THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE NEED TO PULL TOGETHER A WORKING GROUP.

THE WORKING GROUP CAN MEET, UM, SOMETIME DURING THE WEEK OF DECEMBER 14TH THROUGH 18TH, AND WE CAN REVIEW ALL THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE GET.

SO THAT'S, UM, THEN WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS AT OUR NEXT MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING, UH, IN JANUARY, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE DECIDED ON ONE PERSON, OR IF NOT, WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT WANT TO BRING IN A FEW PEOPLE.

I WILL CONSULT WITH THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, UH, ON, ON THIS PROCESS, HOW WE WANT TO DO THIS, BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO GET A GROUP OF US, NOT A QUORUM.

SO UP TO FIVE OF US TOGETHER FOR AN EVENING NEXT WEEK, TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE NOMINATIONS THAT HAVE COME IN AND, UH, AND, AND DISCUSS THEM BASED ON THESE THREE CRITERIA WHEN WE'RE, UM, SUBMITTING THIS, UM, THESE, UH, NOMINEES YOU WANT RESUME, UM, AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WEBSITE LINK OR WHAT, WHAT INFORMATION, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, NEXT WEEK.

YEAH.

A RESUME WOULD BE GOOD, OR AT THE VERY LEAST A LINKEDIN, A LINKEDIN PROFILE, THERE'S A FORM THAT, UH, I'VE ALSO SENT TO ALL OF YOU THAT WAS CREATED BY SOME NOVIA, WHICH, UH, IF THAT FORM IS FILLED OUT, UM, THAT, UH, THAT'S GOOD.

WE'LL ACCEPT PERSONAL STATEMENTS.

WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL ACCEPT ANYTHING.

UH, JUST, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PERSON ACTUALLY WANTS TO DO IT THOUGH, BECAUSE IT'S UNPAID.

AND, UH, THEN ANOTHER, ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS THAT THIS PERSON IS GOING TO BE ON A BOARD.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE BUSINESS BEFORE THE BOARD, THEY WILL NEED TO REFUSE THEMSELVES.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER, THAT'S ANOTHER THING TO, TO CON THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THAT, BUT, UH, I'VE, I'VE HAD A FEW NAMES SUGGESTED TO ME, I'VE COME UP WITH A COUPLE OF MYSELF.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE JUST WANT, WE JUST WANT SOMEONE REALLY STRONG WHO, WHO WILL NOT GET DROWNED OUT BY ALL THESE OTHER, UM, GROUPS IN THE, IN THE AEDC.

ARE THERE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, CONCERNS FROM COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THIS, UH, THIS AGENDA ITEM? I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE EMAIL STILL NOVIO SENT OUT HAS APPLICATIONS OR FOR NOMINEES DUE NO LATER THAN THE 18TH.

SO, UM, AND SO NOW, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, THAT EMAIL HAS, HAS THE FORM IN IT.

SO WE JUST FILL THAT OUT.

OKAY.

OR HAVE THE PERSON COMPLETED.

OH, SO, UH, COUNCIL HAS EXTENDED THE NUMBER OF SEATS NOW, OR, AND I'M STILL IN THE LAST WEEK.

SO NOW WE'RE UP TO 21 SEATS.

AND SO NOW WILL BE, IF I'M CORRECT, UM, WE'RE GIVING YOU TWO NAMES AND YOU GUYS ARE MAKING A CHOICE, RIGHT? NO.

OKAY.

SO WHOEVER, WHOEVER WE CHOOSE IS WHO YOU GUYS TAKE ON, WE'D TAKE THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONFIRM.

CORRECT.

CAN I ALSO ASK A QUESTION? UH, WHEN I LAST DID THAT, THERE WAS ONE SEAT FOR MUSIC

[00:25:02]

WHEN THEY EXPANDED TO 21, DID THEY INCREASE THE S ANOTHER SEAT FOR MUSIC OR, NO.

OKAY.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

THANK YOU.

YES.

AND I'LL GET THE FULL SEAT LIST.

I'LL HAVE KIM SEND IT OUT SO YOU CAN SEE, BUT IT'S, IT'S A VARIETY.

YOU HAVE EDUCATION MUSIC ARTS HERE THAT, UM, YEAH, IT'S A RIGHT.

SMALL BUSINESS SEAT, ET CETERA.

WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU.

MUSIC NOW HAS 23.

YEAH.

WELL, WE ARE JUST ONE.

WE'RE JUST ONE VOICE.

THERE'S ALREADY, ALL THOSE GROUPS THAT, THAT SYNOVIA MENTIONED, THEY ARE ALREADY REPRESENTED, UH, IN THE, IN THE ORIGINAL 15.

I, I VERY MUCH LIKE TO KNOW IF WE CAN FIND OUT IN THE COURSE OF THIS CONVERSATION WITH WHAT THE ADDITIONAL SIX ARE.

I THINK IT'D BE WORTH GOING THROUGH THESE.

I HOPE, I HOPE YOU DON'T.

I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND.

I'LL JUST GO THROUGH WHO, ALL WHO ALL THE 15 ORIGINAL ARE, SO WE'LL KNOW WHERE, WHERE WE FIT IN.

RIGHT.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF EQUITY.

HOWEVER, UH, PLACE NUMBER THREE IS ALREADY GOING TO BRIAN, THE CHIEF EQUITY OFFICER OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO THERE'S ALREADY EQUITY, UH, BUILT IN, ALTHOUGH BRIAN'S NOT GOING TO KNOW NEARLY AS MUCH ABOUT EQUITY IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN AS WHOEVER WILL PROVIDE, BUT I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST READ THEM OFF TO YOU.

THE FIRST IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND THAT IS VERONICA, CORRECT? SO NOT YET.

OKAY.

SO VERONICA IS HIS PLACE ONE PLACE TOO, IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HOUSING.

I'M NOT SURE WHO THAT IS.

DO YOU KNOW SYNOVIA? OKAY.

NUMBER THREE IS THE CHIEF EQUITY OFFICER OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

THAT'S BRIAN.

UM, W WHAT'S HIS LAST NAME? YEAH, BRIAN RHINO.

AND NUMBER FOUR IS THE CITY'S CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT PERSON IS.

OKAY.

UM, THEN COMES A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ARTS COMMISSION.

THAT'S NUMBER FIVE, NUMBER SIX IS US REPRESENTATIVE THE MUSIC COMMISSION, THEN C I WISH WE COULD JUST STOP HERE.

UH, BUT, UH, WE GOT, UH, WE GOT, WELL, OKAY.

I TAKE THAT.

I TAKE THAT BACK.

UH, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF VOICES THAT NEED TO BE HEARD BECAUSE NEXT UP IS ETHNIC OR MULTIETHNIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

SO I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE THE, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE, UH, BLACK CHAMBER, LATINO CHAMBER, LGBTQ CHAMBER.

RIGHT.

ARE THEY, ARE, THEY THEY'LL RECOMMEND ONE PERSON.

THEY WON'T RECOMMEND THEM, ALL OF THOSE CHAMBERS, BUT THEN THE NEXT ONE IS PLACE EIGHT LOCAL AREA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THE AUSTIN CHAMBER, RIGHT? YES.

OKAY.

THEN NUMBER NINE IS LOCAL AREA, URBAN LAND USE AND PLANNING ORGANIZATION FOR URBAN AND REGIONAL PLANNING.

NOT QUITE SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO GET DECIDED.

DO YOU KNOW SYNOVIA? I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK.

UM, BUT THERE IS A, UH, NOMINATING BODY AND I'M LOOKING FOR THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

NUMBER TWO.

OKAY.

NUMBER 10 IS REAL ESTATE.

SO BOARD LOCAL AREA, REAL ESTATE AND CONSTRUCTION PLANNING ORGANIZATION.

SO, UH, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER REAL ESTATE IS ALREADY GUARANTEED A SEAT ON THIS, UH, SEAT ON THIS BOARD.

UH, NEXT IS LOCAL AREA TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION.

UM, THEN COMES A LOCAL WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD THEN COMES LOCAL COMMUNITY COLLEGE BOARD.

I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE ACC.

NEXT IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF A LOCAL UNIVERSITY OF HIGHER EDUCATION.

I ASSUME THAT'S GOING TO BE A UT, ALTHOUGH I IMAGINE IT MIGHT BE ST.

EDWARD'S PRESS, UM, OR, UH, OR, OR, OR, OR, UH, OR HOUSTON TILLOTSON TILLOTSON, BUT THE W ONE OF THOSE, UM, THEN, UH, UH, THAT'S 14 AND 15TH IS THE AISD.

NOW YOU SAID THEY'VE ADDED SIX MORE.

OKAY.

YES.

AND I'M LOOKING FOR THE ENTIRE LIST.

I'M GOING TO SEND YOU THE LINK AS SOON AS I HAVE IT.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD.

SO JUST, JUST, JUST SPEAKING, FRANKLY, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S USED TO WORKING FROM POSITIONS OF POWER IS THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO GET THEIR VOICE, HEARD ALL OF THAT, OR NOT OVER ALL OF THAT, BUT AMONGST ALL OF THAT AND WORKING AND WORKING WITH ALL OF THAT.

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OKAY.

UM, DOES THAT, UM, HAVE ANY, ANY THOUGHTS, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? UM, I DEFINITELY GONNA REACH OUT TO EVERYONE AND, UH, IN WITH Y'ALL EVERYONE SHOULD MAKE A NOMINATION.

UM, SO PLEASE REACH OUT TO PEOPLE, ASK THEM IF THEY'RE INTERESTED, UM, IN SO WE CAN MAKE OUR BEST DECISIONS AND OUR BEST NOMINATION.

UM, HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO THINK ABOUT THIS OR IS IT, ARE YOU GUYS IN THE PROCESS? CAN I ASK THAT, HAVE YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO MARINATE ON THIS? UH I'LL I'LL UH, JOIN NOMINATED YOU DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT PUBLIC.

I'M JUST SAYING, HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO, TO THINK ABOUT IT? YEAH, I THINK GAVIN WAS SAYING THAT HE'LL, HE'LL BE ON THE WORKING GROUP, SO WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD DECIDE RIGHT NOW, UH, UP TO FIVE OF US CAN BE ON THE WORKING GROUP WHO WILL GO THROUGH ALL OF THE KNOTS.

I WANT TO CHECK IN FIRST AND SEE WHERE PEOPLE ARE.

HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH SOMEBODY OR HAS EVERYONE SPENT SOME TIME THINKING ABOUT THIS? I SEE PAUL IS SHAKING HIS HEAD.

NOT YET PAUL.

OKAY.

CAN I, CAN I GET SOME FEEDBACK AND Y'ALL TALK, UM, SAY SOMETHING ON MUTE.

SO I HAVEN'T I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT.

I HAVEN'T TALKED TO HIM, BUT THERE'S SOME FOLKS THAT I'M GOING TO KIND OF CALL DOWN.

I HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OF MY OWN ABOUT HOW THEY'LL APPROACH, UM, THIS POSITION.

AND SO I PLANNED THIS WEEK.

OKAY.

I STILL GARBLED.

SO HERE'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THIS IS DANIEL AT CITY HALL.

UM, MY SUGGESTION IS TO TURN OFF YOUR VIDEO GRAHAM AND SEE IF THAT HELPS, YOU KNOW, ANY BETTER.

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO RESTART THE COMPUTER.

THAT SOUNDED BETTER ACTUALLY BETTER.

OKAY.

SO JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS AND THREADS ABOUT THIS, AND THERE ARE A FEW NAMES THEY KEEP COMING UP, UH, FROM VARIOUS ANGLES AND IT SEEMS PROMISING, UM, IT IS DIFFICULT TO, I THINK THE EQUATION, THE MOST DIFFICULT PART OF THE EQUATION THAT THE OREN LAID OUT IS FINDING SOMEONE USED TO BEING IN SEATS OF POWER, WHO ALSO HAS RE A RELATIVELY RECENT DIRECT EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE OF, UH, LOWER INCOME AND, AND, UH, UH, LESS ADVANTAGED OF FOLKS IN THE INDUSTRY.

SO I, IT MAY NOT COME DOWN TO A CHOICE BETWEEN THOSE TWO, BUT WHICH ONE DO WE FAVOR MORE? UH IT'S ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, GRAHAM.

UH, DOES ANYONE ELSE, UH, HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT OR, UM, ANYBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE, UM, GO AND VOTE OR NAME PEOPLE FOR THE WORKING GROUP, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANNA SHARE? UM, DEFINITELY.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD, YOU KNOW, THIS IS IMPORTANT, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT NOMINATION.

SO, UM, OREN WAS TALKING ABOUT BY NEXT WEEK, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH, FIND THAT EMAIL FROM SYNOVIA, UM, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO SOME PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT.

UM, I'M GOING TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO EVERYONE THIS WEEK AND JUST, YOU KNOW, SEE HOW YOUR, WHERE YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT IT.

UM, JUST, JUST TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE SHOULD PUT IN A NOMINATION, BASICALLY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE DOES THAT.

UM, AND SO THAT'S THAT, UM, LET'S, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHO'S GOING TO BE ON THIS WORKING GROUP.

SO ARE THERE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO VOLUNTEER TO BE A PART OF THIS? I WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER.

I'M HAPPY TO BE ON AS GRANT.

YES.

SORRY.

OKAY.

SO GRAHAM SHAKA, WE NEED TWO MORE, RIGHT? UH, NO.

OH, WAIT, WE CAN'T HAVE SIX, SIX IS A WHO I HAVE.

I HAVE MYSELF AND GRAHAM AND USE SO FAR.

WHO ELSE DID GAVIN WANT TO BE ON IT TOO? OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S FOUR OR WAIT.

THAT'S THAT'S FOUR.

YEAH.

SO ONE MORE.

ALRIGHT.

CAN WE GET SOME GENDER DIVERSITY? YEAH, YOU CAN.

I CAN DO THAT.

I

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CAN EAT, UNLESS DO JUST, UH, I MEAN, YOU'RE THE THING ABOUT THE GENDER DIVERSITY, I GUESS IF YOU CAN, CHARLOTTE AND CHARLOTTE, BUT YOU'RE NOW VICE-CHAIR OF THIS.

I JUST, WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORKING GROUPS AND THINGS GOING ON, I DIDN'T WANT TO COMMIT BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY BEEN TRYING TO JUST STAY CAUGHT UP ON ALL OF THIS, BUT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'VE GOT MORE ON YOUR PLATE, I'M WILLING TO DO IT.

IF IT'S TOO MUCH FOR YOU, I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE PRETTY.

I MEAN, THIS IS A SHORT, SHORT TERM.

I AM AVAILABLE IN THAT TIMEFRAME.

AND SO IT'S EASIER TO COMMIT TO IT, LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER WORKING GROUPS.

SO I WILL, IF YOU WOULD, IF THAT WOULD HELP.

YEAH.

THAT'D BE AWESOME.

SURE.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON IT? YEAH, YOU'LL NEED TO VOTE TO CREATE THE WORKING GROUP EMOTION TO CREATE THE WORK.

OKAY.

THEN WE HAVE A SECOND, A SECOND AND CHARLOTTE A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, I SUPPOSE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO THE, UH, DC NOMINEE WORKING GROUP, WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT IS, UH, CREATED.

UM, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THE MEMBERS OF THE WORKING GROUP? NO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

EXCELLENT.

IS THERE ANY, ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON, UH, AGENDA ITEM TWO B.

OKAY.

I WOULD JUST, I'M ASSUMING SHOCK IT'S SINCE WE'RE THE RACISM THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT A CONFLICTING TIME.

CAUSE THAT'S ALSO DURING THE WINDOW JUST TO MAKE SURE WE, WE DONE THAT'D BE CONFLICTING JUST REMINDER FOR THAT.

RIGHT.

UM, YEAH.

SO OREN, WE HAVE A WHAT ACTUALLY THAT'S THIS WEEK.

YEAH, YEAH.

AND THE 22ND OR THE NEXT MEETINGS WORKING RACISM.

WORKING GROUP.

YEAH.

IT WON'T CONFLICT IF WE'RE DOING IT THEN ON 14TH AND 18TH.

OKAY.

I SEE THAT.

YEAH.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

NO, NO, NO WORRIES.

UM, WELL GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

UM, DO WE WANT TO, WELL, WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT BECAUSE WE CAN FIGURE OUT A TIME I DECIDED MEET COMEDIAN FOR THAT.

YEAH.

MY THOUGHTS ARE WE HAVE A MEETING FOR LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET HOURS WHERE WE LOOK AT ALL OF THE NOMINEES THAT HAVE COME IN.

I'D LIKE THAT TO BE EARLIER IN THE WEEK, NARROW IT DOWN AS BEST AS BEST AS WE CAN.

WE MAY WANT TO HAVE FOLLOW ON QUESTIONS WHERE WE REACH OUT TO SOME OF THESE, TO SOME OF THESE PEOPLE TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, BUT ULTIMATELY THIS WILL GET DECIDED BY THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

UH, AND WE WILL DISCUSS THIS AT THE W WE WILL DISCUSS OUR, UH, NOMINEE AT THE JANUARY MEETINGS.

IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IF WE'VE GOT A REALLY TOUGH DECISION, WE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, WELL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE, TO THE CHAIR AND THE CO-CHAIR WHO WILL LUCKILY ENOUGH BE PART OF THIS GROUP? UM, WELL ACTUALLY, UM, ANGELA IS NOT A PART OF THE GROUP, BUT, UM, SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE BRING IT DOWN TO, TO TWO PEOPLE AND THEN HAVE THE MUSIC COMMISSION DECIDE ON ONE WHEN THAT GROUP, I DUNNO.

I, I, I FEEL THAT MIGHT GET THAT, THAT MIGHT CAUSE SOME, UM, COSTUME CONFLICT.

I WOULD RATHER THAT CONFLICT BE WORKED OUT WITHIN THE WORKING GROUP.

UM, WHAT KIND OF CONFLICT WITH THE COST, GETTING TWO PEOPLE INVOLVED, THERE'S GOING TO BE A WINNER AND A LOSER.

AND, UM, IT, IT, IT MIGHT BE, IT MIGHT NOT BE, IT MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARY.

AND WHY JUST TO, YOU KNOW, WHY NOT? WHAT IF THERE'S THREE, RIGHT? WHERE, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? I'M JUST SAYING THAT I HOPE WE CAN GET IT DOWN TO ONE.

IF IT'S TWO, WE MIGHT BRING IT TO THE GROUP.

IF IT'S THREE OR MORE THAN WE'RE JUST NOT DOING A JOB WELL, HOW'S THAT OKAY.

I DON'T TO, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S HOW YOU WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN, BUT THAT'S COOL.

WE CAN, WE CAN AGREE THAT.

UM, IF, IF, IF IT'S, UH, IF IT'S TIGHT BETWEEN TWO, THEN WE CAN BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION FOR A VOTE ON ONTO, BUT IF IT'S CLEAR, IF ONE IS CLEAR, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, WE JUST ROLL WITH THAT.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE A, HAVE A LOOK AT, HAVE A LOOK AT IT.

IF THERE'S MORE

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THAN ONE THAT STANDS OUT MORE THAN ONE, A NOMINEE, THAT THAT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD FIT.

WHAT IF, WHAT IF WE INCLUDED SOME COMMUNICATION TO ALL THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY, TO THE COMMISSIONERS OF WHO ARE, UM, OF WHO OUR TOP NOMINEES ARE BEFORE THAT FINAL DECISION GETS MADE? I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD REALLY HELP, LIKE JUST ASKING FOR FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW? OKAY.

SO IS IT, IS IT JUST THE ISSUE ON, IS THIS TO BE IN THE PUBLIC? IS THAT YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON A PUBLIC MEETING? YEAH.

AND IT'LL, IT'LL, IT'LL TAKE UP THE WHOLE, IT'LL TAKE UP THE WHOLE MEETING AND THEN THERE'LL BE P THEN WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW HOW THESE THINGS GO.

I THINK IT ALSO JUST MIGHT HELP, LIKE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE REST OF OUR COLLEAGUES HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I GUESS WHAT'S COMING UP FOR ME IS SINCE IT'S JUST ONE SEAT AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PA PROBABLY QUALIFIED PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.

WE PROBABLY ALL WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO HAVE TO BRING TO THE TABLE.

UM, I HOPE WE CAN BREAK EVEN, AND JUST HAVE ONE, BUT IF, IF THAT FEELS WEIRD, BECAUSE I GUESS WHAT I'M HEARING FROM BOTH OF YOU, BOTH OF YOU SHAKA AND OREN IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR TRANSPARENCY'S SAKE, LIKE GETTING FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THE WHOLE MUSIC COMMISSION SORTA HAS SOME KIND OF FEEDBACK OR IF IT ENDS UP THAT WE'RE JUST STUCK AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT WERE STUCK ON, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN'T DECIDE BETWEEN THE TWO THAT BRINGING THEM TO THE COMMISSION IS COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE.

YEAH.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT, IDEAL SITUATION IS THERE'S ONE SHINING STAR THAT JUST LIKE, EVERYONE'S JUST LIKE, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR, BUT IF I FEEL LIKE IF IT COMES DOWN TO TWO OR EVEN MAYBE THREE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE GROUP AND WE COULD DEFINITELY, WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT BEFORE THE MEETING.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALSO DO IT IN THE MEETING, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH DOING THAT BEFORE THE MEETING AND JUST GETTING SOME FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE, UM, INDIVIDUALLY.

SO WHAT IF THE WORKING GROUP, UM, IF YOU GUYS DID NARROW IT DOWN A BIT AND YOU PRESENTED THAT VIA EMAIL OR SOMETHING, AND JUST LET US KNOW IF WE HAVE A SPECIFIC THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS YOU CAN REACH OUT INDIVIDUALLY, WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE WORKING GROUP.

MEMBERS ARE SOME MECHANISMS. I WOULD PUT THAT BACK ON THE WORKING GROUP JUST TO, TO PROVIDE A MECHANISM FOR SOME INTERIM.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

IT FEELS LIKE IF WE DO THAT, THEN WE GET THE FEEDBACK AND THEN WE CAN PROCESS AGAIN.

AND WE MAY COME OUT OF IT WITH A REALLY CLEAR ANSWER.

AND WE'D STILL HAVE TIME AFTER THAT BEFORE JANUARY TO, TO FINALIZE EVERYTHING AND COME TO A CONSENSUS.

OKAY.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE, UH, DISCUSSION ON B AGENDA GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO,

[2.c. Discussion and Possible Action on the Cultural Trust.]

UH, TO SEE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE CULTURAL TRUST.

UM, IS THERE SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY THAT, UH, CAN SPEAK ON THAT? SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO BRING FORTH INFORMATION ON THE CULTURAL TRUST.

WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE AEDC TO, UH, HAVE THEIR BOARD MEETING AND, UM, TO CONCLUDE SOME OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU IN Q1 OF 2021.

OKAY.

SO JUST, UM, I GUESS FOR MORE PUBLIC, IF ANYBODY WATCHES THESE MEETINGS OUT THERE, I DON'T KNOW.

WE MIGHT JUST BE IN OUR OWN ALL SILO OVER HERE, BUT LET ME WATCH IT, THOSE WATCHING THIS, LIKE, WHAT IS THE CULTURE OF TRUST AND WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT? SO, UM, JUST AS YOU WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, ONE OF THEIR FIRST TASKS THAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED THEM IS TO FORM A CULTURAL TRUST TO ADDRESS, UM, UH, BENU CONCERNS, ET CETERA.

AND SO, UH, AGAIN, THE AEC H E D C IS NOT FULLY UP AND RUNNING.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE CANNOT BRING A COMPLETE UPDATE.

AND SO WE WILL HAVE A COMPLETE UPDATE IN Q1.

THEY AREN'T HAVING THEIR FIRST BOARD MEETING SOON.

THE CULTURAL TRUST WORKS LIKE A FUND OF SOME SORT.

CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT FOR THOSE UNFAMILIAR, WITH A CULTURAL TRUST? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UM, GOOD, UH, CULTURAL TRUST WOULD BE, UM, UH, FUND OR CONSORTIUM OF MONIES TO HOPEFULLY PURCHASE ASSETS THAT CAN BE UTILIZED BY CREATIVES WITHIN THE AUSTIN AREA.

AND IT, AND IT'S, UH, IT'S A BLEND OF CITY MONEY AND PRIVATE MONEY, OR IT'S COULD BE, IT COULD BE THAT'S THE BEST, THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT AS A PARTNERSHIP.

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AND SO, UM, THE AEDC WILL BE CHARGED WITH, UH, UH, FINDING GREAT PARTNERS, UH, HOPEFULLY ASSIST YOU WITH FUNDRAISING, ET CETERA.

CAN I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT? SO I ORIGINALLY, WHEN THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION REGARDING THAT WAS PUT FORWARD, AND I THINK IT WAS MAY OF 2018, UM, IT DISCUSSED, UM, THERE WAS A PRESERVATION ASPECT TO IT OR PRESERVING EXISTING SPACES.

WAS THAT, IS THAT STILL GOING TO GUIDE THIS? AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LAND PURCHASE OR PURCHASES TO BE MADE, BUT WILL THERE ALSO BE PRESERVATION? YES, THAT IS PART OF THE CONSIDERATION.

AND THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION WILL HAVE A WORKING GROUP AROUND THE CULTURAL TRUST.

AND I BELIEVE IN LAST MONTH MEETING, OR I COULD BE CONFUSING THIS COMMISSION WITH MY OTHER ONE, THE BOND WORKING GROUP WAS SUGGESTED AS THE START OF THAT, UH, TO HELP WORK WITH THE AEDC.

IN ADDITION, LAST WEEK, COUNCIL APPROVED CREATION OF A ICONIC FUND TO BE FUNDED WITH A HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX TO BE DIRECTED TO THE AEDC, UH, TO DEPLOY AS PART OF PRESERVATION OF ICONIC BUSINESS.

SO IT'S A LOT MORE OF A COMPLETE REPORT FORTHCOMING AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO GIVE THEM TIME TO, UM, GET THE CORPORATION FULLY FORMED OR BOARD HIRING THE CEO, ET CETERA.

OKAY.

AND I WILL SEND THAT LINK TO THAT RESOLUTION TO TONIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO NOVIA, AND THANK YOU EDD FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU'VE BEEN DOING WITH SAVES.

UM, I'M HEARING THAT THAT IS MOVING ALONG.

THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

UM, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THAT, ALL THAT EFFORT AND ALL THAT HARD WORK.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY.

SO WE'RE

[3.a. Discussion and Possible Action after update on Save Austin’s Vital Economic Sectors (SAVES) fund.]

GOING TO, I'M OLD BUSINESS, UH, THREE, A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON SAVES FUND.

DO WE HAVE SOME UPDATES, UH, SANOFI THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE US WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT? I'M GOING TO DEFER TO ERICA TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT.

HELLO, EVERYBODY.

GOOD EVENING.

ERICA SHAMLEY DIVISION MANAGER FOR MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT.

UM, SO WE'VE MADE GREAT PROGRESS, UH, YOU KNOW, PUCKERING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CURING OUR THIRD PARTIES TO DELIVER THE SAVES PROGRAM FOR THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE PRESERVATION FUND.

THAT'S OUR FIRST STEP.

AND, UM, SO WE SHOULD BE MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, UM, ABOUT THE PROGRAM ABOUT OUR PARTNERS.

UM, BUT WE'RE VERY HEARTENED WITH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE GUIDELINES PASSED ON CONSENT THIS LAST THURSDAY, AND, UM, WE'RE CREATING SOMETHING THAT WILL, UH, TRY TO GET OUT EMERGENCY AID, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST PART, UH, AS QUICKLY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, WE'RE SHOOTING FOR BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

UM, AND THEN, UM, CREATING A ROBUST TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, UM, COMPONENT TO ASSIST THE VENUES THAT NEED IT.

UM, ALTHOUGH EVERYONE WILL BE EVALUATED AS PART OF THE PROGRAM.

SO, UM, YOU'LL BE HEARING A LOT MORE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT OUR NEXT MEETING, ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

UH, AGAIN, I KNOW PROPS PROPS, ARE YOU GETTING THAT? IS THAT JUST ME? OKAY.

I'M CROSSING ALL THE HARD WORK ON THAT AND ALL THE MOVEMENT AND JUST MAKE IT, MAKING ALL THAT HAPPEN.

UM, LOOKING, LOOKING TOWARDS 2021, I THINK, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF VENUES CAN AT LEAST TAKE A SLIGHT BREATH, BREATH, A BREATH IN, AND A SLIGHT EXHALE, UM, KNOWING THAT IT'S MOVING FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR ALL THAT ENERGY AND WORK AND JUST STAND, STAND FOCUSED ON THAT.

UH, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO CHIME IN ON SAVES ANY QUESTIONS OR, OR ANY THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT? NO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO

[3.b. Discussion and Possible Action after update from Systemic Racism Working Group.]

TO THREE B UM, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AFTER UPDATE FROM SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A COMMITTEE THAT I'VE BEEN LEADING, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I LOVE TO GIVE YOU THE ANSWER THOUGH, PAUL, UM, TO CHIME IN, UM, AND THEN I CAN, YOU KNOW,

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KIND OF FILL IN, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE WORK WE'RE DOING IN THAT GROUP? I GUESS, UH, PATRICIA, THE FIRST THING THAT COULD UP, SORRY.

I'M P POLICIES THAT'S OKAY.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

UM, I JUST, WHAT COMES TO MIND IMMEDIATELY IS JUST RE REMEMBERING THAT WE'RE DOING IT AND NOT EVERYONE'S HEARING AND SEEING IT.

AND SO JUST THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S RELEVANT TO SHARE, I THINK, UH, SHAKA YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB, EVEN THOUGH IT'S DIFFICULT TO TAKE THE TIME IT TAKES WHEN WE WANT TO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU'VE BEEN REALLY STRONG AND, UH, CONVICTED IN YOUR BELIEF THAT WE NEED TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT AND GETTING ALIGNED AND UNDERSTANDING ABOUT SYSTEMIC RACISM AND HOW IT'S IMPACTED COMMUNITIES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REPORT THAT WE'RE DOING THAT WORK.

WE'RE SPENDING THAT TIME.

WE ARE HAVING DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS AND HOLDING SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO PROCESS THAT AND TO BE HEARD.

UM, IT'S A DIVERSE GROUP OF FOLKS THAT ARE ON THAT WORKING GROUP.

AND EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THAT THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING IN OTHER GROUPS, BOARDS, VARIOUS PLACES WHERE THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT'S UP WITH THAT GROUP, YOU KNOW, AND SO WHAT'S UP WITH THE GROUP IS WE ARE SPENDING THE TIME THAT SHAKA HAS, YOU KNOW, LED US IN THE WAY THAT SHAKA HAS LED US ALONG WITH OTHER FOLKS IN THE GROUP TO DO THAT EDUCATIONAL PROCESS, UM, AND TO REALLY SPEND TIME, UH, SHARING WITH EACH OTHER AND LISTENING TO EACH OTHER SO THAT WE CAN MAKE APPROPRIATE RECOMMENDATIONS GOING FORWARD.

AND IT TAKES TIME ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE GROUP LIKE TO SHARE.

UH, I JUST KIND OF WANT TO ECHO WHAT PROFUSES SAID.

THE, IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME AS A PERSON.

I'M NOT A PERSON OF COLOR, AND IF I REALLY WANT TO BE AN ADVOCATE, I NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE, HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO LISTEN.

AND, UM, IT'S, IT IS THIS TIME THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

UM, SO I KNOW THERE'S, UM, I THINK SHAKA HAS A GOOD PLAN FOR US GOING FORWARD AND WE JUST, WE NEED TO TAKE THE TIME TO KEEP, KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO THERE MAY BE SOME INPATIENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT I FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT ABOUT HOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD RIGHT NOW.

I GUESS I WOULD MAYBE JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT SAYING THAT A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS KIND OF LIKE UNPACKING SOME OF THESE ISSUES, KIND OF SEE WHERE EVERYONE IS AT, YOU KNOW, AN INDIVIDUAL STANDPOINT OF RACE UNDERSTANDING AND THE WAY THAT IT PERVADES IN POLICY.

UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, MOBLEY KIND OF SAID SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY NEAT THAT KIND OF TAUGHT ME THING.

JAN WAS HOW DO WE MAKE RACISM IN INDIAN IMPRACTICAL AND JUST BE A BAD BUSINESS DECISION ON A SYSTEMIC LEVEL? I THINK ONCE WE UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE ISSUES KNOW ARE REALLY BETTING OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE CAN TRY TO COME UP WITH THOSE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT THAT UNPACKING TAKES A LOT OF TIME.

THAT'S ALSO, WHAT'S KIND OF GOING ON IN THAT, UH, THE UNDOING RACISM OR SHOP, WHICH SEVERAL OF THEM ATTENDED TODAY.

A LOT OF IT IS UNPACKING THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S OUR FRONT LOADED WORK, DIVE INTO SPECIFIC POLICY, BUT THAT SAID, HOPEFULLY IT CAME UP OR HE WAS GIVING US AN UPDATE ON THE, UH, ON THAT SURVEY.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S BEEN DOING REALLY GOOD WORK WITH, UH, ZATION ON GETTING THOSE QUESTIONS REALLY TARGETED AND SEEING HOW, HOW THESE ISSUES REALLY ARE AFFECTING INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY, REALLY EVEN JUST DEFINING WHAT THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY.

SO DJ, WHAT, LIKE YOUR PAY IS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO HE'S, HE'S REALLY DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK AT LISTENING.

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

UM, YOU KNOW, MOBILY AND, UM, THIS GROUP OF BLACK AUSTIN MUSICIANS HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, TEAMED UP WITH MEASURE.

WHO'S DONE A LOT OF GREAT WORK JUST WITH, UH, DATA AND USING DATA TO TALK ABOUT RACE.

UM, BUT ALSO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEIR LEADER OR ONE OF THEIR LEADERS, I'M NOT SURE IF SHE WOULD SAY I'M THE LEADER OR HOW THAT DYNAMIC PLAYS OUT.

BUT, UM, MIMI, UH, I BELIEVE SHE'S THE FOUNDER.

SHE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S PERSONAL EXPERIENCES DATA.

AND, UM, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY POWERFUL STATEMENT.

YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, UH, NECESSARILY

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CAN QUANTIFY IN A GRAPH.

UM, BUT PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE'VE BEEN DELVING INTO WITH THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP, UM, QUITE A BIT.

AND, UM, I'M GLAD THAT THERE ARE ALSO MEMBERS OF THE GROUP THAT ARE TAKING THIS UNDOING RACISM WORK WORKSHOP OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS, BECAUSE, UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT I FACED, YOU KNOW, IN THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMUNITY IS, UM, A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT HOW THESE DYNAMICS PLAY OUT AND HOW THEY END UP IMPACTING, UM, OUTCOMES.

AND SO SIMILAR TO WHAT PATRICE IS SAYING.

AND WHEN THE ANSWER I WAS JUST SAYING, AND PAUL WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T ACTUALLY CREATE NEW OUTCOMES IF WE DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND LIKE HOW THESE THINGS ARE AFFECTING US, LIKE IN A REAL WAY.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN COME UP WITH ALL THE ALL IDEAS WE WANT TO AND MAKE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WANT TO, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT BASED IN, UM, REAL TRUTH AND, AND, AND, AND HOW RACISM IS, IS PLAYING OUT, UM, THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE IMPACTFUL.

UM, SO THAT LEADS US INTO, I THINK, UM, MOWGLI'S, UH, WELL, NOT MOBILY, LET ME SAY THE BLACK AUSTIN MUSICIANS, UM, SURVEY, WHICH IS A GENERAL SURVEY, THAT'S JUST TALKING ABOUT MUSICIANS IN GENERAL AND THEIR EXPERIENCE OF LIVE MUSIC VENUES.

SO ALTHOUGH IT'S COMING FROM BLACK AUSSIE MUSICIANS, IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY, IT'S ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT RACE, BUT IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR MUSICIANS OF COLOR.

SO I WANT PEOPLE ON THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT, THAT THIS IS, THIS IS GOING TO BE SENT OUT TO ALL MUSICIANS.

AND WE WANT AS MANY MUSICIANS TO FILL THIS OUT AS POSSIBLE.

UM, HIM BEING A MEMBER OF THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP, UM, HE BROUGHT IT TO THE GROUP AND ASKED IF, IF THE MUSIC COMMISSION WOULD PARTICULARLY GET BEHIND IT AND SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO GATHER INFORMATION ABOUT SO THAT WE CAN GATHER THE INFORMATION AND THEN USE THAT TO INFORM RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'LL MAKE IN THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE SYSTEMIC RACISM GROUP UNANIMOUSLY SAID, YES, THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO GET BEHIND.

UM, AND SO, UM, MOBILEY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, OF THE MEETING WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, JUST GIVING US A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT.

UM, AND WHENEVER THAT IS AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS WILL, YOU ALL, LET ME SAY YOU, YOU ALL, UM, SPREAD THE WORD THAT YOU ALL DO, YOUR MAKE YOUR BEST EFFORT TO GET PEOPLE IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY TO FILL THIS FOR THE SURVEY APP.

UM, THERE'S THE, THERE'S A LIVED EXPERIENCE THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE DEALING WITH THIS MUSIC INDUSTRY.

UM, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO, UM, JUST THE, JUST THE, THIS THERE'S THE PERSONAL, AND THEN THERE'S LIKE JUST THE FACTUAL INFORMATION.

SO THE MORE DATA THAT WE HAVE OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE, THE MORE THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW IT'S PLAYING OUT.

UM, I THINK WE HAVE A GENERAL SENSE OF IT, BUT WE WANT TO GET MORE INFORMATION SO THAT WE CAN SAY, UM, WHAT CAN, WHAT POLICIES CAN CHANGE SOME OF THESE THINGS, WHATEVER INFORMATION THAT WE GET BACK.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY IN THE MUSIC COMMISSION ON THE MUSIC COMMISSION THINKS THAT IS SOMETHING IMPORTANT.

AND THAT KIND OF BRINGS US INTO, UM, INTO THREE C UH, BEFORE I, BEFORE I JUMPED OFF OF THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP, UM, WE WATCH VIDEO, UM, FROM LEADERS, UM, LEADERS IN, IN DISCUSSIONS ON RACE.

WE'VE HAD EXPERTS COME IN AND, AND TALK TO US, UH, ABOUT RACE AND ITS IMPACT.

UM, WE'VE HAD, UH, PERSONAL DISCUSSIONS, PERSONALLY FACILITATED DISCUSSIONS, UH, TO TALK ABOUT OUR OWN RESPONSIBILITY.

UM, WE'VE ALSO, WE'RE ALSO INVITING A HISTORIAN.

UM, THIS TUESDAY, THAT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT RACE IN AUSTIN IN GENERAL, NOT JUST THE MUSIC COMMUNITY, BUT THE HISTORY OF RACE IN AUSTIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTING.

SO WE SPENT THESE FIVE OR SIX OR HOWEVER MANY MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD REALLY JUST TRYING TO START TO DIG INTO OUR UNDERSTANDING.

UM, I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN SOME, SOME BREAKTHROUGHS WITHIN THE MEETINGS, BUT I ALSO, I'M HOPING THAT THE PEOPLE ARE TAKING THESE CONVERSATIONS AND THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND, AND, AND LETTING IT INFORM, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IN THE FUTURE.

UM, BUT WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD ON THESE ISSUES IF WE, IF WE DON'T HAVE A KIND OF, IF WE'RE NOT KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT ITS IMPACT AND GOING BACK TO WHAT ANNE CHARLOTTE SAID, BEING AN ALLY, LIKE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? HOW CAN I BE AN ALLY ON THESE ISSUES? HOW CAN I REALLY UNDERSTAND THESE? OR HOW DO I REALLY UNDERSTAND THESE AND HOW CAN I USE THE INFORMATION THAT I'M GETTING TO MAKE THINGS

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MORE EQUITABLE IN GENERAL? UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

UM, WE HAVE, IF, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING, UM, THAT WE HAVE RECORDED ALL THESE MEETINGS, THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WATCHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WANT TO, YOU KNOW, UM, WANT TO SEE THE MEETINGS, WE CAN MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE.

WE HAVEN'T LIKE PUT THEM UP ON A WEBSITE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATIONS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN LEARNING AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, THEN THOSE RECORDINGS ARE, WE CAN MAKE THOSE RECORDINGS AVAILABLE.

UM, OKAY.

I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO JUST, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, UM, I HAVE THE SAME FILES FOR A LOT OF THESE MEETINGS.

SO IF ANYONE DOES NEED A COPY OF THAT, OR LIKE TO HEAR LIKE OUR SPEAKERS PRESENTING, I CAN DEFINITELY SEND THAT OVER.

ARE THERE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS.

OKAY.

SO THAT, UH, THAT KIND

[3.c. Discussion and Possible Action after presentation of venue survey and discussion on implementation.]

OF LEADS US INTO THE VENUE SURVEY DISCUSSION.

AND BASICALLY, UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, SEE IF WE GET A VOTE ON, UH, WHETHER OR NOT WE THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION WANTS TO GET BEHIND.

I THINK IT'S PRETTY CUT AND DRY.

UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CREATE.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT REALLY WE WANT TO PROMOTE AS THE BODY.

IS THERE A COST FACTOR TO IT? IS THERE ANYTHING WE'RE ASKING THE CITY STAFF IN THIS REGARD, THE MOTION TO PUT OUR NAME ON IT? THE ONLY THING I MIGHT ASK OF CITY STAFF IS IF WE SEE, UM, IS IF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT OR THE MUSIC OFFICE CAN SHARE THE LINK TO IT IN THE EMAILS THAT THEY SEND OUT PERIODICALLY AND, UM, ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE ALL VOTE TO THE MUSIC, THE MUSIC FOR THE SURVEY, THE SURVEY LOOK LIKE FOR THAT SUPPLIER, FOR THAT, YES, WE CAN DEFINITELY INCLUDE IT IN OUR NEWSLETTER.

AND I'LL ALSO ASK THE EQUITY OFFICE TO DISTRIBUTE TO THEIR LIST.

THEY HAVE AN EXTENSIVE LIST TO I'LL ASK THEM TO ALSO, YEAH, THAT'S PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND I DO, I WANT TO SAY I'VE MOBLEY SENT, UH, THE SURVEY TO SHOTGUN AND I AHEAD OF TIME AND WE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT, AND THEN YOU SHARED IT WITH THE ENTIRE US SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP.

AND I THINK IT'S A VERY COMPREHENSIVE, IT'S EXCELLENT WORK.

UM, TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF MUSICIAN ARE YOU GOING TO, HOW, HOW DO YOU GET PAID BY CONTRACTS? WHERE DO YOU, WHERE DO YOU WORK? UM, DEMOGRAPHIC, UM, INFORMATION.

SO IT'S JUST VERY CAREFULLY THOUGHT OUT.

IT'S, UM, I, I MEAN, I'M NOT A STATISTICIAN, BUT I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS, AND THERE'S NOT WHAT I WOULD SAY ARE LEADING QUESTIONS, OR, I MEAN, IT IS JUST REALLY DRILLING DOWN TO, TO PULL IN GOOD DATA.

BUT I THINK IS, I THINK IT'S VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE A GROUP OF CITIZENS THAT'S TAKEN THIS ON AND IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY INSTRUCTIVE FOR US AS A COMMISSION AND FOR THE CITY AND, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT SYNOVIA AND HER TEAM HAS BEEN DOING.

SO, UM, YEAH, I, I WOULD MOTION THAT WE, UH, SUPPORT THIS AS A COMMISSION.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT LANGUAGE I SHOULD USE, BUT I WOULD MENTION THAT WE SUPPORT, UM, THE MUSIC.

OH, HELP ME, UH, THE MUSIC COMMISSION GRAHAM.

YOU'RE SO GOOD AT THIS.

ISN'T THERE AND PARTICIPATE SURVEY DEVELOPED BY BLACK COSTA MUSICIANS MEASURE.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU, GRAHAM.

I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION GROUND.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO, UH, CAN I GET A VOTE FOR ALL THOSE THAT AGREE THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF? CAN I JUST A QUICK COMMENT? YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, BUT I DID, UM, JUST GIVE SOME FEEDBACK IN OUR MEETING THAT I THOUGHT THAT ADDING IN REGARD TO DIVERSITY AND ELEMENT ABOUT AGE AND AGEISM, THAT'S STILL REALLY THE BURNING DESIRE FOR ME.

AND ESPECIALLY SINCE AGEISM AND AGE IS A PLACE FROM WHICH PEOPLE ARE DISCRIMINATED AND I'M HOPING THAT THAT IS BEING ADDED AND I WOULD VOTE FOR IT, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE I NEED TO EXPRESS THAT AGAIN.

RIGHT.

I TALKED WITH MOBILEY, I KNOW THAT THEY, HE TOOK ALL THOSE NOTES THAT WE GAVE HIM AND BROUGHT HIM TO THE GROUP.

BUT, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE HIS CONTACT, MAYBE I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU.

YOU COULD JUST CIRCLE BACK WITH HIM TO MAKE SURE THAT

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THAT WAS RAISED, BUT I KNOW SAID THAT HE TOOK ALL OUR NOTES BACK TO HIS TENT.

COOL.

THANKS SO MUCH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF US, UH, YOU KNOW, PROMOTING THIS AND, AND PUTTING IT INTO THE COMMUNITIES, UH, SAY I RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

UM, ANY ANYBODY THAT OPPOSES, UH, THIS CONCEPT? ANYBODY NOT POSITION? NO.

OKAY.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT.

OH, I'LL, I'LL SAY I'LL VOTE FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S UNANIMOUS AS WELL.

UM, IS THERE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS OUT OF ORDER OR OUT OF LINE, BUT, UM, CAN WE TALK, MAYBE I, AT THAT TIME I ALREADY PASSED, BUT JUST LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS NOT THE TIME, BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF THE EQUITY, UM, STUFF WITH, WITH THE SAVES AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT BEFORE I EVEN GET INTO IT.

IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD TALK ABOUT OR NOT? YEAH, WELL, I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T REOPEN IT.

OKAY.

UM, WHAT IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT LOOKING LIKE IN TERMS OF, UM, WHAT VENUES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO, WHAT'S THE CHECKLIST FOR VENUES IN TERMS OF TYPES OF EQUITY CONCERNS? LIKE WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO EXPERIENCE OR GO THROUGH TO, TO RECEIVE FUNDS? I KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S SOME THINGS IN PLAY, BUT CAN WE GET SOME CLARITY ON THAT OR SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT? YES.

I'LL START IN, UH, LET ERICA WRECKED ME IF I SAY SOMETHING OUT OF BLIND.

SO WE HAVE, UH, ENGAGED A CONSULTANT BY THE NAME OF JOYCE JAMES CONSULTING COMPANY.

SHE'S WORKED WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE ON SOME OTHER ITEMS WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND CAME RECOMMENDED BY THE EQUITY OFFICE THAT WE ENGAGED HER.

SO SHE HAS WORKSHOPS SCHEDULED THAT WILL BE ROLLED OUT WHEN WE DO THE FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT, UM, AND NEXT STEPS.

SO SHE HAS EQUITY TRAINING AND SHE WILL ALSO PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AROUND EQUITY, STRATEGIC PLAN THAT BEING USED HAVE TO SUBMIT.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FINDING SOMEONE.

WE HAVE FOUND SOMEONE IN HER RESUME IS QUITE EXTENSIVE.

SHE'S DONE WORK ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS WELL WITH, UH, THE STATE OF TEXAS GOVERNMENT AND CAME HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BY THE EQUITY OFFICE.

AND WE'LL ALSO BE SURE THAT AS THAT, UH, TRAINING PROCEEDS THAT, UM, WE'LL GO OVER THE CONCEPTS THAT WERE LAID OUT IN THE SAVES GUIDELINES, CAUSE IT'S RELATED KIND OF TO THE MUSIC INDUSTRY OF CONCEPTS THAT RELATE TO WHAT WE DO DAY TO DAY WITH EVENTS.

AND SO THAT TRAINING THANK ERICA FROZE.

YEAH.

SO THERE IS A MENU OF ITEMS LISTED THAT, UM, THE VENUES CAN ALSO ENGAGE IN AROUND, UH, FOCUS BACK.

YEAH.

SO IT'S A LIST OF CONCEPTS TO INSPIRE EACH VENUE, TO SEE WHAT WORKS FOR THEM.

WE DON'T THERE ISN'T A COOKIE CUTTER WAY OF ACHIEVING EQUITY FOR AIR, YOU KNOW, FOR EVERY VENUE THAT THAT'S THE SAME.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THESE CONCEPTS ARE ABOUT ARE JUST TO HELP INSPIRE, UM, IDEAS OF THAT PARTICULAR VENUE TO CREATE, UH, SCENARIOS AND EVENTS AND COLLABORATIONS THAT ACHIEVE EQUITY, NOT ONLY INTERNALLY WITHIN THAT VENUE, BUT, UH, OUTWARDLY, YOU KNOW, THE AUDIENCE COMING, THE PERFORMERS PERFORMING.

AND SO IT REALLY IS A SUPPORT MECHANISM, UH, WITH THIS CONSULTANT TO BRING KIND OF THOSE BROAD, UH, LESSONS AND EXPERIENCE, BUT ALSO RELATE IT TO OUR INDUSTRY HERE IN AUSTIN, AS IT RELATES TO LIVE MUSIC AND LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCES, THOSE PLANS JUST SUBMITTED SUBMITTED, I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING AN ECHO.

I'M GOING TO ECHO SOMEBODY MUTE.

UM, THOSE PLANS THAT THEY'RE SUBMITTING, THEY'RE SUBMITTING THEM TO, TO YOU ALL, AND THEN YOU ALL ARE GOING TO VET THOSE OR IS IT, HOW IS IT? SO IT WILL BE A, UH, UH, LIKE A ONE PAGER THAT WILL COME UP.

WE DON'T WANT TO DICTATE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE THESE PLANS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE, THIS CONSULTANT WILL HELP ASSIST.

THEN YOU KIND OF CREATE THESE MORE UNIQUE PLANS FOR THE VENUE.

AND SO THIS IS AN ASPIRATIONAL DOCUMENT.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO GET GRADED.

IT'S A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, ONE TO THREE YEARS.

I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO START

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BUILDING IN THESE PRACTICES.

AND SO THE FIRST PART OF THE PLAN IS TO HAVE A PLAN THAT IS RELEVANT TO THAT VENUE.

AND SO WE WILL GIVE YOU NOT ONLY THE SUPPORT TO CREATE THAT PLAN, BUT THE ONGOING SUPPORT OVER THE NEXT YEAR, TWO YEARS, TO HELP ACHIEVE THOSE EQUITABLE.

UM, IS, IS IT, UH, IS IT LEGALLY POSSIBLE? AND IT'S JUST ME BEING IMMATURE AND NOT KNOWING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF REQUIREMENT, LIKE A, LIKE A FIRE CODE WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU GO IN AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS HAVE TO BE IN PLACE FOR A VENUE TO ACTUALLY EXIST.

IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE OR A CERTAIN THING A PERMIT COULD BE POOLED? LIKE IF, IF CERTAIN THINGS AREN'T BEING MADE IN TERMS OF EQUITY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD, COULD HAPPEN OR IS THAT CRAZY? YES.

I WANT TO, I WANT TO ARTICULATE THIS AS BEST I CAN I, THE CONCEPT, SO WHEN THEY OUTLINE WHAT THEY INTEND TO DO TO ACHIEVE EQUITY YES.

WE'RE THEN GOING TO GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK THAT YES, YOU DID THESE THINGS.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PLAN THAT SITS ON THE SHELF.

WE'LL CONTINUALLY, UH, EXAMINE THEIR PLAN.

IT MAY NEED TO BE TWEAKED BECAUSE EQUITY IS NOT A ONE DAY CHECKLIST.

IT'S A CONTINUAL LEARNING PROCESS.

AND SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE FIRST YEAR.

IT MAY NEED TO BE MODIFIED ADJUSTED IF THEY DIDN'T REACH THEIR GOAL OR THEIR METRIC, HOW DO WE COME BACK AND HELP THEM ACHIEVE THAT GOAL? SO, YES, THERE WILL BE A CHECK AND BALANCE, UH, BUT IT IS A PLAN THAT IS, UM, THAT IS, UH, CHANGEABLE.

IF WE, UH, EVALUATE THAT THEY HAVEN'T MET.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT TO HAVE THAT REVIEW.

DOES THAT HELP? I GUESS WHAT, WHEN I'M SAYING IT, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PRECEDENT FOR THIS AND I'M JUST LIKE, KIND OF THINKING OUT LOUD HERE, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING CONCRETE OR I'M TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME, WE HAVE A FIRE CODE AND SOMEONE COMES IN AND THEY LOOK AROUND AND THEY SAID, HEY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA MOVE THIS OR YOU GOTTA HAVE BIGGER ENTRYWAY OR WHATEVER.

RIGHT.

UM, AND IF, IF PEOPLE AREN'T COMPLYING WITH THAT, THEN THEY GET SHUT DOWN UNTIL THEY FIX IT.

RIGHT.

UM, I DON'T IS THAT, IS THAT PRECEDENT FOR THAT PRECEDENT FOR THAT? OKAY.

SO WHAT WE WERE DOING PERIOD IS UNPRECEDENTED THE WAY WE HAVE STRUCTURED THIS PROGRAM HAS NOT BEEN DONE IN THE U S AND I STAND TO BE CORRECTED, BUT EVEN THE MODEL THAT THEY LIKE TO REFERENCE, HASN'T DONE IT THE WAY AUSTIN HAS DONE IT.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A LOT OF GRACE AS WE MOVE FORWARD THE FIRST TIME, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TALKING OUT LOUD.

I'M NOT SAYING LIKE, DUDE, I'M JUST AS A, AS A CONVERSATION.

THIS IS ALL I'M SAYING.

YEAH, YEAH.

COULD WE PULL THEIR PERMIT AND SAY THEY SHUT DOWN? I DON'T, I DON'T.

YEAH.

THAT'S, I'VE NOT HEARD OF THAT HOCK.

I ARTICULATE THAT.

SO LET US HEAR YOUR CONCERN.

LET US TAKE THAT BECAUSE THAT'D BE IN THE ACADEMY, IT'S PART OUR, LET US COME BACK IN JANUARY WITH MORE INFORMATION.

DOES THAT MAKES SENSE? BECAUSE THE FIRST IS GOING TO MOVE INTO THE ENHANCER, THEN LET'S COME BACK IN JANUARY WITH MORE INFORMATION BECAUSE THE CONSULTANT WILL BE ON BOARD BY THEN, AND WE'LL START GETTING INTO IT TO LET US COME BACK IN JANUARY.

IT WASN'T AT ALL, TRYING TO GET YOU TO ANSWER THAT.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO TALK OUT LOUD AND SAYING LIKE, YOU KNOW, W W NOT N I WOULDN'T EVEN NECESSARILY TALKING TO YOU SYNOVIA, ALTHOUGH I LOVE TALKING TO YOU, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST TO THE COMMISSION IN GENERAL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT'S SOMETHING.

YEAH.

I THINK, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW, AND AS THIS DEVELOPS WHAT THE EQUITY ENFORCEMENT PLAN IS, ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHETHER IT'S A PULLING A PERMIT OR AS A WITHDRAWAL OF THE CERTAIN SUPPORT, UH, FROM THE PROGRAM.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THAT ENFORCEMENT, UH, PROCEDURE IS IN DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO WE JUST, I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP INFORMED AND BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL FEEL IT'S ROBUST AND EFFECTIVE ENOUGH.

SO GOOD WITH THE WORDS GRANTS.

SO GOOD.

ROBUST.

YES, INDEED.

WE NEED ROBUST.

ALRIGHT.

UH, ANYBODY ELSE ON, ON THAT, UM, PARTICULAR TOPIC? YEAH, I WOULD JUST SAY, LIKE, I'LL GO OUT ON A LIMB WITH YOU SHAKA, AND JUST SAY, LIKE, WHILE I'M LISTENING TO SYNOVIA TALK AND ANSWER, SO GRACEFULLY,

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THIS QUESTION SEND YOU, YOU KNOW, JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

LIKE, WHAT DOES, WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING LOOK LIKE? UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS AND MINDFUL AND PROFESSIONAL IN THESE MEETINGS, BUT, BUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOW YOU'RE DESCRIBING IT, SILL NAVEA OF BEING SO UNPRECEDENTED AND US BEING IN AUSTIN AND BEING IN TEXAS, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I CAN THINK OF CERTAIN, I WON'T NAME THE NEWS, BUT I CAN THINK OF CERTAIN VENUES THAT ARE EXTRA STRAIGHT AND EXTRA WHITE.

AND I WOULD NOT WALK IN THERE WITH MY PARTNER AND GO DANCING AND LISTENING TO MUSIC.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD DO WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING SHAKA AND A PLACE LIKE THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THERE MIGHT BE A DESIRE TO DO THAT FOR ME.

I JUST DON'T GO THERE.

AND, BUT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT HOW VARIOUS VENUES OF VARIOUS CULTURAL PRACTICES AND TRADITIONS WOULD BE DEALT WITH IN REGARD TO EQUITY.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS BEING AN EXPERIMENT, JUST LIKE THE AMERICAN EXPERIMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN IN FOR OUR WHOLE LIVES AND SEE HOW IT TURNS OUT.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

I THINK TO ME, GOING BACK TO WHAT GRAHAM SAYING, I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET MONEY, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HELP YOU BE IN BUSINESS, THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK THAT PUTS A LITTLE BIT MORE RESPONSIBILITY ON YOUR SIDE TO, YOU KNOW, COMPLY, YOU KNOW, IF NOT, IF YOU DO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, RUNNING YOUR BAR, HOW YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET MONEY FROM THE CITY AND THE CITY IS SAYING THAT EQUITY IS IMPORTANT, THEN GUESS WHAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD FOLLOW THESE THINGS.

AND IF YOU DON'T, THEN THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF REPERCUSSION.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT PULLING APART, I'M JUST SAYING THAT I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT PENALTY WILL BE.

UM, BECAUSE IT'S IT, UM, I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT THAT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO PUT THE DISCUSSION FORWARD AND NOT SAYING ANYBODY HAS TO HAVE AN ANSWER FOR IT, BUT JUST TO HAVE A CONVERSATION, A PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, THAT ASPECT.

TOTALLY.

AND I JUST, I WOULD ADD TO WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY SHOCK IS THAT LIKE THE EXAMPLE I GAVE OF WHERE I WOULDN'T GO, BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL SAFE AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT EQUITABLE FOR A QUEER PERSON TO WALK INTO AND ENJOY MUSIC AND DANCE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS WORK IS BEING DONE IN AN UNPRECEDENTED WAY IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, BECAUSE PLACES LIKE THAT, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO SEE THEM GET FUNDING EITHER, BUT THAT'S JUST MY, YOU COULD CALL IT A BIAS.

YOU COULD CALL IT ABOUT WHO I AM AND WANTING TO FEEL SAFE IN PLACES THAT GET FUNDED BY TAX DOLLARS.

AND SO I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THIS WORK IS BEING DONE IN THAT, UH, AN APPROPRIATE, UM, CONSULTANT IS BEING HIRED AND THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THESE THINGS SO THAT WE CAN EXPECT PLACES TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE IN TERMS OF EQUITY, IN TERMS OF SAFETY, IN TERMS OF HOW THEY'RE PARTICIPATING IN OUR ECONOMY AND MAKING SURE THAT THESE DIFFERENT HARMFUL PRACTICES AND TRADITIONS AND THINGS THAT HURT PEOPLE DON'T CONTINUE ON THE PAYERS DOLLARS IF THEY SHOULDN'T.

YEP.

I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE CONSULTANT GOES BACK AND REVIEWS THIS TAPE AS WELL AS THE EQUITY UP.

OKAY, COOL.

COOL.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE Y'ALL UM, ON THAT TOPIC, IT'S GREAT CONVERSATION.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU YET, MAN.

THIS IS MY DUB.

CHECK-IN COMING IN AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

UM, 55 CHECK IN, UH, I THINK, UH, WHAT EVERYONE SAID I I'M RIGHT IN LINE WITH, IF YOU'RE ACCEPTING THE CITY MONEY, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE GOOD STRINGS ATTACHED AND IT'S GOING TO BE EQUITY BASED.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT THIS COMMISSION IN LINE WITH RACIAL EQUITY, WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, GENDER EQUITY IS ALSO SPOKEN AND TALKED ABOUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING WITH TALENT BUYING, UM, YOU KNOW, IT JUST THIS PAST WEEK, UM, I WORKED A SHOW AND THERE WASN'T A SINGLE WOMAN ON THE STAGE AND THERE WAS ONLY ONE PERSON OF COLOR OUT OF THE THREE BANDS THAT WERE PRESENT.

SO I SEE THAT AS A BIG ISSUE AND IT, IT COMES FROM, UH, MANAGEMENT OF THAT CLUB.

SO, UH, THE VENUES THAT I DID HAVE SAY IN, UM, TALENT BUYING WISE, I MADE SURE THAT CALENDAR WAS DIVERSE, BOTH IN RACE AND EQUITY AND AGE.

UM, BUT

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THAT'S JUST TWO VENUES THAT I HAD, UH, CONTROL OVER.

SO, UM, I'M HERE TO OFFER EXPERTISE IN THAT SENSE, BUT, UH, I'M JUST ONE PERSON.

UM, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE OUT THERE DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK.

UM, SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT IS TO COME IS MY SEVEN 56 STEWARD.

CHECK-IN STUART STUART, ARE YOU THERE? STEWART STEWART CHECK IN STILL HERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I KINDA WANT TO DO A DOUBLE UP ON SOME THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING IS THAT IN TERMS OF DOING RACE AND EQUITY AND GENDER AND THESE THINGS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE ONLY THINGS IN OUR LIFETIME THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO DO THAT REALLY HAVE PROFOUND IMPACT ON OUR CULTURE.

I MEAN, WE LIVE THROUGH THE COMPUTER AGE AND THAT'S PRETTY AMAZING, BUT THESE THINGS, THESE HUMAN THINGS BETWEEN PEOPLE AND THE EQUALITY THAT YOU CAN GET THERE, IF WE CAN PUSH THE BALL, YOU KNOW, FURTHER AND FURTHER AND FURTHER, THEN, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE BEST THINGS WE'LL DO IN LIFE.

AND IN MY OPINION.

NICE.

THANK YOU.

HE SAID WE MADE IT THROUGH THE COMPUTER AGE.

I LOVE IT.

THE COMPUTER AGE, THE BRONZE AGE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, AWESOME.

WELL, UM, I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA.

UM, STAFF UPDATES,

[STAFF UPDATE a. Update by Erica Shamaly, Division Manager, Music & Entertainment, on December 12, 2020 virtual community meeting on Cultural Funding Review Process: Arts, Music, Heritage.]

HEY EVERYBODY.

UH, SO JUST WANTED TO, UH, I THINK I'VE PROBABLY INVITED ALL OF YOU ALL TO THE FACEBOOK EVENT.

IT'S FOR OUR CULTURAL FUNDING REVIEW PROCESS, BUILDING EQUITY IN OUR CULTURAL FUNDING HERE IN AUSTIN, WHICH IS OUR HOT FUNDED PROGRAMS HERE WITHIN EDD.

THE VIRTUAL EVENT IS THIS SATURDAY, DECEMBER 12TH, AT 1:00 PM VIRTUAL EVENT, YOU HAVE BEEN EMAILED A DIRECT EMAIL ABOUT IT.

UM, WITH THE, UM, I THINK THE LINK IS THROUGH THE EVENT, BRIGHT INVITATION.

YOU CAN GET TO THE LINK WHEN YOU REGISTER THROUGH THE EVENT, BRIGHT INVITATION, WHICH IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE FACEBOOK INVITATION.

SO PLEASE GO JOIN THE INVITE, GO INVITE ALL YOUR FRIENDS, SHARE IT ON ALL YOUR SOCIAL NETWORKS.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE TO COME TO THIS MEETING BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET A FIRST KIND OF LOOK AT THE NEW AND UPDATED PROGRAMS ACROSS THE THREE DIVISIONS, UH, MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT, CULTURAL ARTS, AND HERITAGE PRESERVATION.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE OUR PROGRAMS ACROSS THE BOARD OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING FOR FYI 21, AND THEY WILL BE LAUNCHING IN SPRING OF THIS NEXT YEAR.

SO PLEASE INVITE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

WE NEED AS MANY VOICES AS MANY, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GET YOUR FEEDBACK.

THIS IS OUR FIRST ROUND OF FEEDBACK.

THEN WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU GUYS IN JANUARY, UM, WITH KIND OF MORE FULLY BAKED PROGRAMS SO THAT WE CAN START IMPLEMENTING WITHIN THE SYSTEMS TO LAUNCH IN SPRING.

SO, UH, UH, PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD.

LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

IT'S PRETTY EXCITING.

AND I WAS LIKE, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S EXCITING NOW TO ME, I I'M NERDING OUT ON THAT.

THAT'S GOOD STUFF IS PROGRESS BEING MADE.

UM, CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

DEFINITELY SPREAD THE WORD Y'ALL.

UM, I JUST GOT MY INVITE ON FACEBOOK AND I IGNORED IT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO IGNORE IT FOR MUCH LONGER.

I'VE, YOU KNOW, I JUST, YOU KNOW, SAW ALMOST ALL THE STUFF ON FACEBOOK, BUT PLEASE RSVP, CLICK ON A LINK, SEND IT TO SOMEBODY.

UM, I EXPECT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOING ON THAT DAY, THAT ALL US MUSIC COMMISSIONERS WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE TO THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING GOING ON AND PLEASE, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW UP WITH SOMEBODY TO GET SOME INFORMATION, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, REVIEW IT, THIS IS IMPORTANT STUFF.

THIS IS, UM, REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF.

SO PLEASE Y'ALL, UM, ATTEND THAT MEETING.

UM, IF YOU CAN'T THEN GET THERE, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT.

DO VIRTUAL EVENTS COUNT AS COOL AS FAR AS QUORUM GO? NOT IF YOU GUYS ARE NOT PUBLICLY THERE, YOU'RE JUST WATCHING FROM THE ZOOM LINK.

AND SO, BUT THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

UM, IF THEY ALL ATTEND A PUBLIC, UH, MEETING, YOU KNOW, AS A SEPARATE MEETING, IS THAT AN ISSUE? WE TYPICALLY PROMOTE HOST A COMMUNITY EVENT THAT NO BUSINESS WILL BE CONDUCTED.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW.

OH, IT IS BUSINESS CONDUCT, MEANING NO COMMENTING NOS, NO SPEAKING DURING IT, LIKE JUST SOME SERVE OR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT CONSTITUTES BUSINESS THAT THE COMMISSION WON'T MAKE MORE MOVE TO APPROVE X, Y, Z, OR WHATEVER THAT IS SAID IN THE MEETING.

YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS AS AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT AS A BODY YOU'RE NOT THERE IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY TO VOTE ON ANYTHING.

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YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.

LIKE WITH EMAILS IN CERTAIN THINGS, THERE'S A SUBJECT LINE, THERE'S A DISCUSSION ITEM.

AND SO THAT'S CONSIDERED A MEETING.

IF, IF YOU'RE ALL ON THE SAME EMAIL TOGETHER, THIS YOU'RE NOT CONTROLLING THIS AGENDA.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, VIEWERS JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

SO NO PUBLIC BUSINESS THERE.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, THIS IS THE DECEMBER 12TH AT 1:00 PM.

IS THAT RIGHT? UH, IS IT GOING TO BE VIEWABLE BECAUSE I'M DOING A LIVE LIVE? OKAY.

YES, WE WILL BE RECORDING, BUT TO TRY TO HELP KEEP YOU OPEN.

AND I, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN VIEW IT AT THE SAME TIME.

SO JUST WONDERING.

THANKS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, I THINK WE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ERICA ABOUT THAT? OR ANY OTHER STAFF UPDATES? NOPE.

OKAY.

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

NOW THE TIME FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, UM, ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR? I TOOK NOTES ABOUT A COUPLE AS WE WENT, WE HAD THE SKINO TANGO, UH, PERSON.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

ARE WE STILL NOT ALLOWED GUESTS SPEAKERS ON SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS OR THEY'RE STILL RESTRICTED TO CITIZEN COMMUNICATION? OR CAN THEY, BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH MOBILEY, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE QUESTIONS.

ARE WE ALLOWED TO HAVE ANYONE ASK QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? SO YEAH.

YOU CAN HAVE GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS NOW THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN REOPENED.

UM, WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE THE SPEAKER SIGN UP, WE DO ASK THEM IF THERE'S AN ITEM THEY WANT TO SPEAK ON, BUT THEY CAN, THEY'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO DO GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS AT THE BEGINNING, LIKE WE USED TO DO BEFORE ALL THE COVID.

UM, SO DID THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION OR WAS THERE A DIFFERENT, YEAH, THAT WAS IT.

EXACTLY.

YEAH.

UM, SO I'M THINKING IF PEOPLE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, THE MUSIC LIKE MUSIC DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSIC PERMITTING DURING COVID AND HAVE, UM, ANOKA HAS A GUEST SPEAKER TO DISCUSS THAT.

YES.

I SECOND THAT, UM, AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO VOTE ON AGENDA ITEMS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON IT JUST TO, FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND.

GREAT.

THEN THE SECOND ONE OBVIOUSLY IS WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE AEDC NOMINATIONS.

YES.

A SECOND NET.

IS THAT EMOTION? YES.

YES.

MOTION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A THEME NOMINATED SECOND, THEN THE THIRD, UH, SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT SAVES AGAIN, UH, DISCUSSION ON POSSIBLE ACTION ON SAVES WITH A SPECIAL FOCUS ON THE EQUITY PLAN, UH, WITH FOCUS ON ENFORCEMENT MEASURES.

I SECOND THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

UM, I THINK LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD JUST A REPORT BACK FROM THE SEVENTH GRADE SINCE I'M WORKING GROUP, UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO WORD THIS, BUT I'D LIKE TO MOST INTO, UM, HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT OUR PLAN IS FOR 2021.

AND LIKE, WHAT ARE SOME BIGGER VISION THINGS THAT WE WANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT AND TALKING ABOUT ASIDE FROM THE THINGS THAT ARE IMMEDIATE, UM, SOME THINGS THAT, SOME GOALS THAT WE WANT TO SET FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION IN 2021, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT I'M NOT GRAND REYNOLDS WITH THE WORD AND MAN, BUT, UH, SOMETHING THAT I MENTIONED, I'M A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON GOALS AND, UH, VISION FOR THE 20, 21 MUSIC COMMISSION SEASON.

THAT PART RIGHT THERE, THE SECOND NET A SECOND TIME.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE? UM, OR IN, UH, I GUESS WE'LL BE, YOU'LL BE LEADING.

YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING FROM ON YOUR SIDE WITH THE, OH, WAIT, I GUESS WE ALREADY SAY ADC A D S A D C, BUT I'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH GAVIN, YOU CHUCK A GRAM AND PATRICE TO, UH, COME UP WITH A DATE AND THEN WE WILL HAVE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE NEXT WEEK.

WHAT'S WHAT'S THE DATE ON THAT? ANYWAY, IT'S

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THE JANUARY MEETING, ANYBODY KNOW THE DATE? UH, I DO SEE, SO THE FIRST MONDAY IS THE FOREST.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S JANUARY 4TH, JANUARY 4TH.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY, COOL.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING JUST TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ABOUT ELIMINATION OF THE PARLIAMENTARIAN POSITION FOR THAT OFFICE? YEAH.

YEAH.

AND THEN I DID ATTEND THE, UH, DOWNTOWN COMMISSION IN OCTOBER AND THEN THE NOVEMBER ONE WAS CANCELED.

SO I'M HAPPY TO GIVE AN UPDATE FOR OUR JANUARY MEETING ON THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO MOTION FOR UPDATE FROM DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.

I SECOND, I WOULD, UH, I ALWAYS LIKE TO ADD POSSIBLE ACTION IN CASE YOU COME AWAY WITH ANYTHING YOU WANT US TO DO.

CAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE ACTION.

UNLESS WE SAY WE'RE MOTION FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTIONS FROM DOWNTOWN COMMISSION FOLLOWING DOWNTOWN COMMISSION UPDATE SECOND NOW, UH, THIS IS NOT AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT I JUST WANT TO LET THE PEOPLE KNOW THAT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, EARLY VOTING IS GOING ON FOR THE RUNOFF ELECTION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL POSITIONS OF, UH, DISTRICT SIX AND DISTRICT CAN, THERE'S ALSO A RUNOFFS FOR AISD.

SO I WANT TO, UH, THOSE OF YOU, WELL, PAUL, I ASSUME YOU'VE VOTED.

IF NOT BETTER, GET OUT THERE.

I HAVE, I HAVE TO, BUT THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW PEOPLE IN DISTRICT SIX AND 10, PLEASE TELL THEM TO COME UP.

WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE A STRONG MUSIC COMMISSION BECAUSE WE HAVE EXCELLENT COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO MAKE GOOD APPOINTMENTS.

SO, UH, PLEASE, PLEASE INVITE FRIENDS IN DISTRICT SIX IN 10 TO COME OUT AND VOTE.

THANK YOU.

UM, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE AGENDA FOR JANUARY? IT'S NOT AN AD.

THIS IS STEPHANIE.

IT'S NOT AN AD.

IT'S JUST A REMINDER.

YOU GUYS WILL ALSO HAVE AN INCOMING COMMISSIONER FROM DISTRICT TWO EARLY NEXT YEAR.

UM, SO JUST MAKE YOUR, JUST TO MAKE YOU REMIND YOU OF THAT DISTRICT TWO, THAT'S A, THAT'S A RICK RICK LEFT, RIGHT? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER ELECT IS VANESSA FENCES.

CORRECT.

UM, AWESOME.

THAT SHE, AS SHE ALREADY PICKED HER COMMISSIONERS ALREADY, SHE HASN'T BEEN SWORN IN YET AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO, SO NO.

SO, UH, THE SWEARING IN IS WHEN I BELIEVE LATE JANUARY, I'LL GET A DATE FOR YOU GUYS.

I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD BE AFTER THE RUNOFF THAT THEY WOULD SWEAR IN ALL THESE SEATS.

RIGHT.

SO NEOVIA YEP.

IT'S GOING TO BE IN JANUARY.

OKAY.

IN JANUARY.

SO I GUESS WE'LL POTENTIALLY HAVE SOMEBODY IN AS EARLY AS FEBRUARY POTENTIALLY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AWESOME.

IT'LL BE OUR VALENTINE'S PRESENT.

YAY.

I, I THINK, UM, I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING.

UH, UM, ANYBODY LIKES TO MOTION? A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND, SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE.

UH, I'M GOING TO BE IN TOUCH.

UM, SO PLEASE EVERYONE I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM, FROM YOU ALL OFF IN THE NEXT MONTH ABOUT JUST YOUR VISION, UM, FOR AUSTIN MUSIC, I LIKE THINK ABOUT YOUR DISTRICTS AND THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO SPECIFICALLY WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT OR THINGS YOU THINK MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT, OR, OR SOME SPECIFIC YOU'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPENING WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT, BUT ALSO, UM, HEAR MORE ABOUT YOUR VISION FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND ALSO MUSIC IN GENERAL.

SO I'LL BE IN TOUCH.

APPRECIATE Y'ALL Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT, UH, REST OF THE WEEK.

BYE GUYS.

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