Dec 08, 2020 Planning Commission

UM, WITH THAT, UH, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE CITIZENS' COMMUNICATION.

UM, YEAH.

I'M JUST READING A NOTE HERE.

I JUST, UM, CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT COMMISSIONER, CAN WE GET TO THE LINK? I THINK THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN SOME CONFUSION.

IF WE CAN RESEND THE LINK TO COMMISSIONER CONLEY TO JOIN THE MEETING, UM, HE WILL BE ABLE TO JOIN, UH, ANDREW, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, CAN YOU, UM, SEND THAT LINK TO COMMISSIONER CONLEY CHAIR COMMISSIONER? VERY WELL.

WE'RE GONNA, UH, MOVE THROUGH THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA AND, UH, THAT'LL TAKE A FEW MINUTES AS USUAL.

OKAY, SO REAL QUICK, UH,

[Reading of the Agenda]

THAT'S ALL.

GO AHEAD AND READ THROUGH THAT.

AND, UH, I THINK WE'VE GOT A FEW DISCUSSION ITEMS THIS EVENING, SO WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE GOING UNTIL 10 AND, UH, THAT'S ALL GOING TO READ THROUGH, UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, OR I'LL JUST, UH, LET THOSE KNOW THAT ARE ON

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THE LINE.

UM, OUR FIRST ACTIVITY IS TO DO THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE NOVEMBER 24TH, UH, MINUTES APPROVING THOSE MINUTES, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO, UM, EACH, UH, OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND, UH, IDENTIFY THOSE FOR THAT ARE CON UH, SENT POSTPONEMENT OR NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS. AND, UH, WHEN WE MOVE THROUGH THAT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, AND VOTE FOR FINAL APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO THIS EVENING, UH, OR CONSENT AGENDA, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE, UH, NOVEMBER 24TH MINUTES.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

AND THEN, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, I'M GOING TO GO OUT AND READ THROUGH THESE.

WE HAVE ITEM B.

ONE IS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2019 ZERO ZERO THREE ZERO ONE.

DAVID CHAPEL, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH DISTRICT ONE, UH, RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

UH, WE HAVE ITEM B TWO AS A REZONING CASE C 14 2020 ZERO ONE ZERO FIVE, DAVID CHAPEL, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH TRACK ONE.

AND THIS IS A REQUEST TO, UH, FREE ZONE FROM PMP, UH, P M P TWO CS, M U V N P.

A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOR CSM, B C O N T A ITEMS THE THREE REZONING C 14 2020 ZERO ONE ZERO SIX.

DAVID CHAPEL MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH TRACK THREE.

IT IS FOR THE AFRICAN REQUEST IS P MP, UH, TWO CS, M U V N T.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOR CSM UV, CEO, AND P.

AND THEN WE HAVE A ITEM BEFORE C 14, 2020 ZERO ONE ZERO SEVEN.

DAVID CHAPEL, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH TRACKS FOR, UH, IT IS YEAH, THE REQUEST FOR A PMP AND SF THREE NP TO SEE US M U V N T STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

HOWEVER, IT'S FOR L O M U C O N P THE ITEM AND THAT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ITEMS B ONE THROUGH BEFORE, UH, TOGETHER.

I KNOW THAT'S A LOT THAT I THINK WE, YOU CAN DO IT AND, UH, MOVING ONTO THE NEXT ITEM IS B FIVE.

THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION AS WELL.

UH, IT'S A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2020 (002) 102-1100 MAN LEFT STREET.

AND IT'S A AFRICAN RIGHT REQUEST, SINGLE FAMILY TO NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED-USE.

THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

UM, AND THEN WE WILL TAKE UP, UH, ITEM V6 TOGETHER WITH THE FIVE IT'S REZONING C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO EIGHT ONE 1100 MANLOVE STREET, UH, REQUESTED THE APPLICANT IS SF THREE AND P TO N O M U N P.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF MOVING ON TO, UH, THE SEVEN, UH, WE'LL TAKE THE SEVEN AND BA UP TOGETHER.

THESE ARE JUST FASHION ITEMS. UH, WE HAVE THE NPA IS NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO TWO SEVEN DOT OH ONE TWIN LIQUORS.

MARTY'S REZONING.

IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

AND THEN WE'LL, AS I SAID, TAKE A B EIGHT C 10 2020 ZERO ZERO TWO TWIN LIQUORS.

MARTY'S REZONING.

IT'S A FOUR GOING FROM CS ONE AND P TO CSMP ON TRACK ONE AND FROM CSMP TO SEE US ONE NP ON TRACK TO, UH, THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF DENINE AS A PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE SIX.ZERO ONE MSC AND CTC TRACKS AND, UH, NPA.

UM, AND THIS IS, UH, POSTPONE TILL DECEMBER 22ND.

UH, THIS WILL BE POSTPONED AS WELL TO DECEMBER 22ND.

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ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE ISLANDS, UH, B 11 AND B12 THAT WILL TAKE UP TOGETHER.

UH, B 11 IS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE FOUR DASH ZERO TWO AT 7,800 PERLSON ROAD.

IT'S UH, FOR GOING FROM INDUSTRY TO MIXES.

UH, THE AFRICAN REQUEST IS FOR GR M U N P AND L I C L N P TWO, GR M U N P.

THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND MOVING ON TO B 13 THREE ZONING C 14 2020 ZERO ONE ONE TWO DELTA KAPPA SOCIETY INTERNATIONAL, UH, FROM GEO TO DMU.

UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOR DM.

YOU SEE? OH, UH, BUT WE'RE GONNA, THIS IS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO JANUARY 26.

14 IS A DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS.

UH, THIS IS FOR CONSENT SP 2020 ZERO ZERO SIX NINE C IS TOWER.

THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF IT'S.

UM, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION FOR ADDITIONAL FIRE FROM 15 TO ONE TO 21 TO ONE, UH, ITEM D 15 DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS SP 2019 ZERO FOUR SIX FIVE C RIVER STREET RESONANCES.

UH, THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT, UH, TILL DECEMBER 26 ON THIS ITEM AND APPLE COMMIT APPLICANT IS IN AGREEMENT.

CATCH MY BREATH HERE.

WE HAVE EITHER B 16, WHICH IS A CONSENT ITEM, UH, SITE PLAN C UH, SPC 2020 ZERO ZERO FIVE ONE EIGHT, A WANDER SPACES CP, UH, IT'S APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A COCKTAIL LOUNGE AND CS ONE 70 DISTRICT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF P 17 IS A SITE PLAN, UH, THIS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCE, UH, CASE SP 2019 ZERO ZERO TWO SEVEN CT AT 1514 WEST CLINIC LANE OFFICE BUILDING.

UH, THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, BUT WE'VE, UH, APPLICANT HAS POSTPONE TILL DECEMBER 22ND.

UH, AN A B 18 FINAL PLAT FROM APPROVED FROM THE PRELIMINARY PLAN.

THEY CA 20 EIGHTEENS OR A ONE 65 CASCADES AT ONION CREEK.

UH, IT'S A PHASE TWO FINAL PLAT.

UH, THIS IS STAFF, UH, HAS SINCE DOWN DOES DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE B 19 FINAL PLAT FROM APPROVAL.

IT PRELIMINARY PLANNED CASE NUMBER C8 J THERE'S 2018 ZERO ZERO NINE ONE DOT TWO, A TURNER'S CROSSING NORTH PHASE TWO.

THIS ONE IS FOR CONSENT.

AND LASTLY, UM, WE HAVE ITEM B 24 DISCUSSION.

IT'S A, WE'RE GOING TO FEAR THE NEW, UH, THE DESIGNS DRAFT DESIGN, STATE, HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND, UH, WE'LL GIVE OURSELVES AN OPPORTUNITY.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED, BUT, UH, THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE COMMISSIONERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, MAKE AMENDMENT IF IT NEEDED TO THAT, UH, THE STANDARDS.

UM, SO JUST CLARIFICATION ON THE 13, UH, B 13.

YES, UH, JANUARY 26, UH, THAT WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THAT UP ON THAT DATE.

WE HAVE ITEM B 20 THAT WE'LL TAKE UP FOR DISCUSSION.

SO, UM, JUST TO REFRESH FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING, UH, WE'VE GOT TO ISLANDS V ONE P BEFORE WE'VE GOT ITEMS B FIVE AND V6 WE'LL TAKE UP TOGETHER.

UH, WE HAVE ITEMS, UH, B SEVEN AND THE EIGHT.

WE HAVE, UM, ITEMS, WE ITEMS B 11 AND B 12, AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, YOU HAVE ITEMS.

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THE OTHER ITEMS WILL BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, YEAH, I'M GETTING NOTES FROM ANDREW.

I'M TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH YOU HERE.

SO ON D 18, UH IT'S.

YES, IT IS NOTED HERE.

IT'S DISAPPROVAL FOR REASON FOR EXHIBIT C UH, THE STAFF REPORT.

SO, UH, JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

SO WITH THAT, UM, YES.

I RECALL SEEING, UH, A LETTER OR REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT ON ITEMS B SEVEN AND BA FOR A POSTPONEMENT THAT WE GOT TODAY.

UH, THEY WANTED IT FOR DISCUSSION.

YEAH, THAT'S THE LAST I HEARD COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER IS WE'RE PULLING FOR DISCUSSION.

APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES THE MINUTES AND, UH, THE, THE ITEMS THAT WE IDENTIFIED FOR CONSENT.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, TRYING TO, UM, I NEED A, UM, A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH,

[Consent Agenda]

UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, I SEE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOWARD AND WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HANDFUL.

SO WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE CLOSING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AND, UM, THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

WE'VE GOT, UH, ALL RIGHT.

[Items B1 - B4]

TO MOVE INTO OUR FIRST DISCUSSION ITEM, AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP ITEMS B ONE THREE B FOUR.

AND SO WITH THAT, WE WILL, UM, I THINK WE'VE GOT, I'VE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT WE HAD OUT OF ALL THE SPEAKERS.

AND SO AT THAT, WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE STAFF PRESENTATION AND, UH, STAFF.

ARE YOU THERE? OKAY.

UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I'LL START WITH ITEM B ONE.

THIS IS MAUREEN MEREDITH ITEM B.

ONE IS NPA 2019 ZERO ZERO ZERO 3.01.

DAVID CHAPEL, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH PROPERTY ADDRESSES ARE TWO TWO ZERO +1 220-322-0522 (072) 209-2211 AND 23 ZERO ONE EAST MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR BOULEVARD, AND 1807 FERDINAND STREET AND 1803 1805 AND 1807 CHESTNUT AVENUE.

THE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE CHESTNUT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.

THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE A FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM CIVIC AND SINGLE FAMILY TO MIXED USE LAND USE.

I'M SORRY, THESE LETTERS AND OTHERS ARE IN THE STACK CASE REPORT.

UM, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THIS IS HEATHER CHASIN WITH HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING THE ZONING CASES, UH, 14 2020 ZERO ONE OH FIVE, WHICH IS TRACKED ONE 14 2020 ZERO ONE ZERO SIX, WHICH IS TRACKED THREE 14 2020 ZERO ONE ZERO SEVEN, WHICH IS TRACKED FOR THAT'S CORRECT.

THERE IS NO TRACTION.

THE ADDRESSES ARE THE SAME AS THAT MAUREEN READ IN TRACK.

ONE IS APPROXIMATELY ONE AND A HALF ACRES TRACK THREE AND FOUR ARE 0.4 ACRES.

THE ZONING CHANGE IS REQUESTED FOR TRACK ONE AND TRACK THREE, GO FROM P M P TWO C S M U V N P.

AND THEN TRUCK FOUR IS P M P N S F THREE AND P TWO.

ALSO GO TO C S N E N P

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THAT'S UH, SUPPORT P S M U B C O M P PROTRACTS ONE AND THREE.

AND THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE LISTED HERE HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT WITH THE APPLICANT.

UM, THE APPLICANT, I HOPE WILL CONFIRM THAT I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ANY CHANGES, UH, PROHIBITING, UH, AUTOMOTIVE SALES, AUTOMOTIVE, REPAIR, CAMPGROUND EQUIPMENT, SALES, MAINTENANCE, AND SERVICE FACILITIES, VEHICLE STORAGE, MONUMENT, RETAIL SALES, LIMITED WAREHOUSING AND DISTRIBUTION AUTOMOTIVE WASHING OF ALL TYPES, AGRICULTURAL SALES AND SERVICES, AUTOMOTIVE RENTAL OFF RECYCLING, TERMINATING SERVICES, KENNEL EQUIPMENT, REPAIR SERVICES, AND PAWN SHOP SERVICES.

THEN CONDITIONAL USE IN SERVICE STATION, LAUNDRY SERVICES AND CONSTRUCTION SALES AND SERVICES.

SO STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, AND I BELIEVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM ARE IN AGREEMENT OR MOSTLY IN AGREEMENT ON TRACK ONE AND THREE ON TRACK FOUR STAFF IS RECOMMENDING L O N U C O N P WITH THE PROHIBITION OF MEDICAL OFFICES THAT EXCEED 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

LET ME SCROLL TO THE APPROPRIATE PAGE.

UH, THIS, THESE PROPERTIES ARE OWNED AND OCCUPIED BY DAVID CHAPEL, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF MOVING THEIR CONGREGATION TO A NEWER PATIENTS.

THE PARTIES HAVE DISCUSSED AND ARE WORKING FOR THE LONGTERM RELOCATION AND PRESERVATION OF THE SANCTUARY BUILDING, WHICH WAS DESIGNED BY RENOWNED DOC ARCHITECT, JOHN CHASE, THE FIRST LICENSED AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARCHITECT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN TO SERVE ON THE US COMMISSION OF FINE ARTS.

THE GOAL IS TO RELOCATE THE STRUCTURE TO A LOCATION WHERE IT CAN BE ACCESSIBLE AS A PUBLIC BUILDING IN PERPETUITY.

AND HE STOOD OUT THE, FROM OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE IS ALSO AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS.

AGAIN, UM, THE APPLICANT AND THEN NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT TEAM HAVE WORKED TOGETHER A LOT TO, UM, COME TO SOME CONDITIONS WHICH ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONES IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENCES.

SO THESE ARE THREE TRACKS.

UH, THE MAIN ONE, THEY'RE ALL LOCATED ON THE, OF EAST MLK AND BETWEEN FERDINAND AND MAPLE AVENUE TRACT.

ONE IS THE MAIN PARCEL WHERE THE CHURCH SANCTUARY BUILDING AND RELATED USES ARE LOCATED.

IT HAS FRONTAGE ON EAST MLK AS DOES TRACK FOUR, I'M SORRY, TRACK THREE, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET TO THE EAST.

UH, THAT SITE IS USED AS OFFSITE PARKING FOR THE CHURCH.

TRACK FOUR IS SOUTH OF TRACK THREE, AND THEY'RE SEPARATED BY A LOT THAT ZONED L R M U T O N P, AND IS DEVELOPED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

WE, UH, PREP FOR, UH, ALSO USED AS, UH, ACCESSORY PARKING TO THE TRUCK SURROUNDING LAND USES THAT ARE LOCATED ALONG EAST MLK INCLUDE MEDICAL OFFICES, LIMITED RESTAURANT, PERSONAL SERVICES, PROFESSIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES, AND SINGLE FAMILY USES EAST HAD A MIX OF ZONING CATEGORIES, CFMU V E O AND P L O M U V C O M P AND S THREE H D N P, WHICH IS ROGER WOODS, WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS, HISTORIC DISTRICT, SOUTH SOUTHWEST AND EAST OF THESE PROPERTIES IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS BOUND TO SS THREE AND THE SEGMENT OF EAST MLK AS A CORE TRANSIT CORRIDOR, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS SCORE VERTICAL MIXED USE IT'S PART OF THE REQUEST AND THE RECOMMENDATION AGAIN, STAFF AND THE APPLICANT AGREE ON THE, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR TRACKS ONE AND THREE.

OUR RECOMMENDATION DIFFERS ON TRACK FOR, UM, EXCUSE ME, THE, UH, THE, UM, RECOMMENDATION FOR L O N U T O N P VERSUS C S M U B N P IS BASICALLY RELATED TO THE LOCATION OF TRACK FOUR.

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IT IS, UH, THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE TO THE NORTH OF IT THAT IS ZONED LR MEU B I'M SORRY, O R N E S C O M P.

AND THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH THAT IS BOUND AS SECTORY NP, AND THEN ALSO TO THE EAST AND FURTHER SOUTH AND WEST INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

IT IS NOT COMMON FOR PARTIAL ZONING CATEGORIES TO EXTEND FAR INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I'D SAY IT'S ROUGHLY TRACK TOWARDS ROUGHLY MID-BLOCK ON CHESTNUT AVENUE.

UM, AND THIS WAS IF THERE WAS, UM, APPROVAL OF G R N U Z C O M P, WHICH I'M SORRY.

I GET BACK.

THE ORIGINAL REQUEST IS C S N U V M P, BUT IN THEIR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE APPLICANT AGREED TO G R N U B N D M U V C O M P SORRY, REDUCED CATEGORY WITH A LIST OF CONDITIONS FROM PROHIBITED USES.

SO THAT IS A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, A LETTER, WHICH I THINK IS EXHIBIT E.

SO YES, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST OF CSM, U V N P FOUR, G R M U THE E O N P WOULD CREATE A STEP UP IN INTENSITY MOVING FROM THE EAST MLK CORRIDOR FURTHER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THAT'S WHY STAFF CAME UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT O N U N P IT ALONG FROM OFFICE AND LOW-INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES.

AND OF COURSE WITH THE MIXED USE, IT COULD BE DEVELOPED A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY REPORT.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, AS I SAID, OKAY, NEXT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR, UM, HAVE THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.

UM, AND I HAVE, UH, IS IT MCKELL MEAT CARROTS, MIQUEL MEAT.

UM, NICOLE MEET I'M WITH HUSH BLACKWELL, AND I AM REPRESENTING DAVID CHAPEL, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING US PRESENT THIS CASE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY VERY HAPPY TO HAVE THIS CASE, UH, COMING FORWARD TO YOU ALL BECAUSE, UH, I THINK IT'S BEEN POSTPONED ABOUT 20 TIMES, SO WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT IT IS FINALLY COMING FORWARD AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING THE TIME WITH SUCH A LONG AGENDA TO HEAR THIS CASE TONIGHT.

UM, IF SOMEONE CAN BRING UP MY PRESENTATION AND GO TO SLIDE TWO, UM, AS HEATHER SAID THAT THE SITE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS PART OF THE TEST IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'RE ASKING TO CHANGE THE FLOM, UH, FROM CIVIC AND SINGLE FAMILY TO MIXED USE AND CHANGE THE ZONING FROM P N P AND SF THREE TO C S M U V C O N P ON TRACKS ONE IN THREE AND GR MUV C O N P ON TRACK FOR, AND IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A POINT OF CONFUSION FOR FOLKS, BUT, UM, WE HAVE WITHDRAWN TRACK TWO ALTOGETHER.

I COULDN'T HEAR WHETHER HEATHER EXPLAINED THAT OR NOT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, IS, AS HEATHER SAID, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE ARE ALL SIGNED WITH ON TRACKS ONE AND THREE.

AND SO THE MAJORITY OF THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, I THINK, WILL BE ABOUT TRACK FOR, WE DO NOT AGREE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON TRACK FOUR.

WE ACTUALLY THINK THE RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, DOESN'T MAKE A TON OF SENSE.

AND WE ASK THE COMMISSION INSTEAD TO, UH, RECOMMEND THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT ON TRACK FOUR, WHICH IS GR M U C O V AND P.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE SLIDE FOUR.

SO THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY IS FAIRLY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN, UM, ON THE EAST SIDE AT THE INTERSECTION OF CHESTNUT AND MLK, UM, IT IS, UH, IT SPANS ACROSS TESTNET.

SO IT WAS ON BOTH SOUTHERN PARTS OF THAT INTERSECTION.

NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TRACKS ARE ALL CIVIC BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL CURRENTLY PART OF THE DAVID CHAPEL CHURCH.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE,

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UM, ZONING OF THE TRACKS CURRENTLY IS P EXCEPT FOR THE TALKS THAT WE WITHDREW AND THEN A SMALL PORTION OF TRACK FOUR, WHICH IS, IS, UH, AS SS THREE.

UM, STAFF EXPLAINED, WE, UH, HAVE SPENT REALLY PROBABLY 16 OR 17 MONTHS IN DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT TEAM, AND REALLY HAVING A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AN AGREEMENT THAT MAKES SENSE, AND THAT EVERYBODY CAN CONSIDER A WIN-WIN.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS THE AGREEMENT THAT THE PARTIES HAVE COME UP WITH.

SO AGAIN, ON TRACKS ONE AND THREE, UH, THE AGREEMENT IS CSV, N U N P, AND THEN ON TRACK FOR THE AGREEMENT AS GR V M U C O N P.

UM, AND AS I SAID, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED TO ADD CONDITIONED OR PROHIBITED USES TO TRACKS ONE IN THREE, NOT PART OF THE AGREEMENT, BUT WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

BUT WE, AGAIN, DON'T AGREE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON TRACK FOR NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU A FEW PHOTOS OF THE SITE.

THIS IS CURRENTLY TRACKED ONE, THE PRIMARY SANCTUARY BUILDING.

NEXT SLIDE AGAIN FROM ANOTHER VIEW TRACT ONE NEXT SLIDE TRACT.

ONE NEXT SLIDE.

THAT'S ANOTHER VIEW OF TRACT.

ONE NEXT SLIDE.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND THEN THIS SHOWS YOU TRACT THREE, WHICH IS A CURRENTLY A PARKING LOT.

I THINK STAFF SAID THERE'S A RESIDENCE ON THAT, ON THAT TRACK ON TRACK THREE, THAT'S NOT ACCURATE, IT'S A PARKING LOT.

AND THE NEXT SLIDE AND TRACK FOUR IS ALSO CURRENTLY A PARKING LOT.

SO I WANTED TO SPEAK A BIT ABOUT THE REASONS WHY WE THINK STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN THIS CASE MISSES THE MARK.

UM, SO STAFF HAS RECOMMENDING ON TRACK FOR AN OFFICE ONLY ZONING AND STAFF.

I THINK HEATHER, UH, MS. JAFFAN JUST STATED THAT ELO PERMITS SOME LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES, BUT THE ONLY COMMERCIAL USES THAT PERMITS IS AN ART GALLERY, AN ART WORKSHOP, IT'S OFFICE, ONLY ZONING.

AND AS WE ALL KNOW, UM, PROBABLY WHAT YOU ALL ARE EXPERIENCING IN YOUR OWN CIRCUMSTANCES.

PEOPLE ARE NOT SIGNING UP FOR OFFICES RIGHT NOW.

WHAT I SO ON THIS SLIDE IS THE THIRD QUARTER MARKET REPORT FROM CBR SHOWING THAT THERE'S A NEGATIVE ABSORPTION OF OFFICE IN EAST AUSTIN RIGHT NOW.

SO, WHEREAS, UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT STAFF MADE A DECISION ABOUT THE LOCATION OF THIS TRACK BEING, NOT BEING SUITABLE FOR RETAIL.

WE THINK REZONING TRACK FOR, TO ALL OFFICE IS REALLY ILL CONCEIVED AT THE, AT THIS TIME.

SECONDLY, WE, OUR STAFF, I THINK HAS STAFF WOULD SAY THEY DIDN'T SAY IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT I THINK STAFF WOULD SAY, WELL, EVEN IF THERE'S NO MARKET FOR OFFICE ON THIS TRACK, IT COULD BE DEVELOPED AS, AS RESIDENTIAL.

AND, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT EVEN THAT LOGIC REALLY IS FLAWED WHEN IT COMES TO THIS TRACK, BECAUSE AS YOU APPLY MINIMUM SITE AREA, YOU END UP WITH AT BEST HALF THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS UNDER AN ELA BASED DISTRICT, AS YOU WOULD UNDER A GR BASED DISTRICT.

SO ALL IN ALL, WE JUST THINK THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN THIS CASE, AS MUCH AS WE RESPECT THEIR WORK, AND WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOOD PLANNERS, WE THINK THAT IT REALLY MISSES THE MARK IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE.

AND WE ASK THE COMMISSION TO NOT SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON TRACK FOR, AND TO SUPPORT THE NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CONTACT TEAM AND THE APPLICANT.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

FOLLOWED BY JORDAN SMITH.

AND WE WILL NOW MOVE THROUGH THE, UH, REMAINER, UM, SPEAKERS THAT ARE IN FAVOR.

AND SO I'VE GOT NEXT, UH, REVEREND JOSEPH C. PARKER JR.

AND SO, UH, YOU EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES.

EXCUSE ME.

A STAR SIX ON MUTE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.

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UH, JOSEPH PARKER, I AM PASTOR OF DAVID CHAPEL.

UH, DAVID CHAPEL, AS YOU MAY KNOW, HAS BEEN IN THE CHESTNUT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 94 YEARS SINCE 1926.

UH, I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF DAVID CHAPEL FOR 41 YEARS, 28 OF THOSE AS PASTORS.

UH, LET ME FIND THE CHEST, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, CONTACT TEAM AND ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE DISCUSSIONS OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF.

ALL WE REQUEST IS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS SUPPORT, THE AGREEMENT REACHED BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT TEAM AND THE CHURCH AND NOT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

UH, WHILE I, AS NICOLE SAID, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE CITY STAFF FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS CASE.

A LOT OF WORK TIME AND EFFORT WENT INTO THE AGREEMENT TO REACH A WIN-WIN FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND THE CHURCH.

AND SO WE ASKED THE COMMISSION AND WE'LL BE ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO HONOR THAT AGREEMENT.

A CITY STAFF IS ASKING TO ADD FOUR HABITED USES TO WHAT THE PARTIES AGREED ON.

UH, FOR TRACKS ONE IN THREE, YOU WERE OKAY WITH REBUTTING THEM.

IF IT MEANS THAT WE CAN MOVE THE CASE FORWARD, BUT WE ASKED THE COMMISSION TO SUPPORT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHURCH AGREEMENT ON TRACK FOUR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSIONER.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE JORDAN SMITH AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

MY NAME IS JORDAN SMITH AND MY HOME IS AT 18 ZERO EIGHT MAPLE AVENUE, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF TEST NOT.

AND MY ALLEY ACCESS BACK UP TO THE PARKING LOT TRACKS, WHICH ARE THREE AND FOUR PER YOUR DOCUMENTS.

I GUESS I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF PAGES THAT SAY I SIGNED UP ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE WHAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE PROBLEMS WE'VE HAD OVER TRACK FOR, UM, MICHELA POINTED OUT CORRECTLY THAT THIS HAS BEEN POSTPONED SO MANY TIMES, AND IT'S BEEN POSTPONED SO MANY TIMES BECAUSE OF TRACK FOR WHICH SITS ESSENTIALLY IN BETWEEN A BUNCH OF HOUSES, LONGTERM PROPERTY OWNER, AND AFFECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN MAJOR WAY.

WHEN THIS CAME UP, WE DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TRACT ONE, WHICH MADE SENSE IT'S ON THE MLK CORRIDOR AND TRUCKS THREE.

IN FACT, WE HAD LIKE, NOT THAT MANY PROBLEMS WITH TRACKED FOUR IS WHERE IT CAME TO SORT OF PROBLEM.

UH, WE INITIALLY ASKED, AS HE KILLED SAID THAT THEIR, THEIR THOUGHT WAS FLAWED BY HAVING OFFICE HERE.

THAT SOUNDS OFF THOUGHT OF LOT.

UM, BUT, BUT INTERESTINGLY, WHAT WE ASKED FOR ORIGINALLY WAS INTENSIVE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HERE, WHICH ACTUALLY EXISTS BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO HOMES, NOT ONE BETWEEN TRACK THREE AND FOUR, WHICH HAS BEEN REDEVELOPED IN THE INTERIM SINCE I THINK TWO YEARS AT BEST.

UM, WE TRIED TO PUMP YOU A COMPROMISE.

IT WAS RENEGED A COUPLE OF TIMES.

WE, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO AGREE, CAME TO A LAST MINUTE COMPROMISE.

THEY'D BEEN RESCINDED THE COMPROMISE AND THE ONE THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH NOW THAT THE PLANNING TEAM HAS A BRIEF TO, UH, WE AGREED TO BEFORE WE SAW STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ON TRACK FOR AT LEAST AS FAR AS I HAD AN OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF OUR NEIGHBORS, THEY SHUSHAN HAD SEAT.

UM, ONE OF OUR BIG THINGS ABOUT TRACT FOUR IS IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S VERY SMALL.

IT IS SANDWICHED BETWEEN A BUNCH OF HOUSES.

AND AS STAFF SAID, IT IS IN FACT IN MID-BLOCK OKAY.

SO IT IS NOT RIGHT ON YOUR CORRIDOR, WHAT WE DON'T WANT AND WHAT WE'VE NEVER WANTED IS A PARKING GARAGE, PARKING STRUCTURE, ADDITIONAL PARKING.

WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING.

IT'S GOING TO BRING A LOT MORE CARS AND PARKING THERE.

AND SO THE COMPROMISE THAT BECAME TOO, UM, WITH THE MBCT AND THE LETTER THAT Y'ALL HAVE WOULD NOT ALLOW THOSE USES.

BUT WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT STAFF SOLUTION WAS EVEN MORE RESTRICTIVE, IT GAVE SEVERAL OF US THOUGHTS, SOME OF WHOM YOU MIGHT HEAR FROM TONIGHT, I'M NOT SURE.

UM, I THINK THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT I HAVE LIVED IN CHESTNUT FOR A LONG TIME.

AND DAVID CHAPEL HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL NEIGHBOR, AND I KNOW THAT REVEREND PARKER HAS BEEN REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN DEVELOPING THE CHESTNUT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, BUT AT THIS JUNCTURE, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE NEED TO GO LIGHT ON TRACK FOR TRACKS ONE IN THREE, WE'RE MORE OPEN TO TRACK FOUR, PLEASE PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

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UH, NEXT I HAVE, UH, TRACY BRADMAN AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, UH, STAR SIX ON MUTE, AND I REPRESENT, UM, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF FOUR HOMEOWNERS.

UM, I RESIDE AT 1808 UNIT A ON FERDINAND STREET.

UM, AND I'M, UH, LIKE I SAID, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF 1808, A N D HOMES AND 1806 ONE AND TWO HOMES.

SO WE ARE FOUR HOMEOWNERS, UM, THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO TRACK ONE WHILE WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE MIXED USE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE STAFF HAS MADE.

UM, WE REQUEST FURTHER EXCLUSIONS TO PRESERVE, UM, OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, WE WOULD LIKE AN EXCLUSION FOR SERVICE STATIONS.

UH, WE WOULD LIKE EXCLUSIONS FOR HIGH TRAFFIC, UH, UH, BUSINESSES SUCH AS A RESTAURANT, IF A DRIVE-THROUGH.

AND, UM, AND THEN, UM, UH, I HAVEN'T, I'VE LOOKED THROUGH SOME OF THE, UH, LISTS OF THE FURTHER EXCLUSIONS.

UM, BUT, UM, SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL WITH CHEMICAL OR SOME OF THE BUSINESSES WITH CHEMICAL, UH, CHEMICALS, WE WOULD ALSO REQUEST EXCLUSIONS FOR, UH, AGAIN, UH, TRACK ONE WHILE IT DOES IT ON MLK.

IT IS LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY PATIO, UM, WITHIN 30 FEET OF OUR RESIDENTIAL HOMES, UM, TRACK TWO, WHICH HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN, UM, ACTUALLY DOES HAVE A HOME ON IT.

AND MY GUESS IS, IS THAT IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE POTENTIALLY TO BE RESIDENTIAL.

SO, UH, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT TRACK ONE WHILE IT SITS ON MLK, UM, DOES HAVE, UM, HOMEOWNERS SURROUNDING IT.

UM, THE HOMEOWNERS, UM, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ARE A VARIETY OF FOLKS, UM, OLDER PEOPLE, FAMILY, AND IN PARTICULAR TO UT STUDENTS.

SO, UM, HIGH TRAFFIC BUSINESSES, UM, ON THAT PART OF MLK WITH, UH, WITH THE HILL GOING OVER CHESTNUT, UM, WOULD REALLY BE A DETRIMENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE ALEX BROWN AND YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE AND THEN FOLLOWED BY LAVERNE MARKER WITH ONE MINUTE STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS ALEX BROWN WAS ROUGHLY BAPTIST CHURCH FOR 23 YEARS NOW.

AND I WAS SERVING THE ROLE OF CHAIRMAN OF THE TRUSTEE BOARD.

UH, LIKE OTHER SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CHURCH, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ALL OF OUR MEMBERS WHO PARTICIPATED ON THE CONTRACT TEAM FOR THE ALFRED'S TO REACH THE AGREEMENT THAT HAS BEEN SPOKEN ON THE CHURCH WOULD ALSO ALLOW THE CHAIRMAN SHOW AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

SO ALLOWED US SO MANY POSTPONED.

AND SO THIS CASE, SO THAT WE HAVE THE TIME LEADERS TO COME TO A WORKABLE AGREEMENT.

SO WE HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION WILL SUPPORT THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS SET FORTH IN THE CONTRACT TO A LETTER OF SUPPORT.

UH, AND THE LAST IN FAVOR, I HAVE A SPEAKER IT'S LAVERNE PARKER, UH, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE LAVONNE.

OH, HELLO.

WE HEAR YOU.

AND I AM ASKING THAT YOU SUPPORT THE CHURCH'S RECOMMENDATION AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TEAM'S RECOMMENDATION.

UM, THIS REQUEST IS DESIGNED TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAXIMIZE FUTURE USE OF THE PROPERTY AND ENSURED THAT WE, AS CURRENT OWNERS CAN REALIZE THE MAXIMUM FINANCIAL POTENTIAL FROM THE SALE OF THIS PROPERTY.

I'LL REQUEST IS ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN LEAD LINES UP WITH OTHER APPROVED ZONING REQUEST DOOR DOWN, THE MLK CORRIDOR AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE INTEREST OF OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND STAFF, WE ASK THAT YOU NOT ALLOW THEIR INTERESTS AND DESIRES FOR OUR PROVINCE TO SUPERSEDE OUR INTERESTS AND THE OWNERS, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE AGREED TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS

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PUT FORTH BY YOU.

WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AND WE SOLICIT YOUR SUPPORT.

OKAY, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

SO, UM, FROM THE LIST I HAVE HERE, THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF ITEMS V1 BEFORE.

UM, WE HAVE, WELL, NOW THAT MOVE THE SPEAKERS AGAINST, AND I HAVE ONE, UH, BRENDA MALIK, UM, UH, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

CAN YOU, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE CUTTING OUT.

CAN, ALL RIGHT.

UM, LET ME HOLD IT, HEAR ME NOW.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

MY NAME IS BRENDA MOLLY.

I AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT OF THE NEWLY DESIGNATED ROGERS WASHINGTON.

HOLY CROSS, HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN FOR SUPPORTING US IN THAT EFFORT, BUT TONIGHT I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT ANOTHER HISTORIC ISSUE, AND THAT IS THE DAVID CHAPEL CHURCH BUILDING ITSELF.

NOW YOU'VE HEARD THAT, UH, IT WAS DESIGNED BY A RENOWN BLACK AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARCHITECT, THE FIRST ARCHITECT TO GRADUATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.

BUT LET ME TELL YOU A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CHURCH.

THEY ARE ONE OF THE OLDEST CHURCHES IN BLACK CHURCH IN AUSTIN AND EAST AUSTIN.

AND WE HAVE HAD MANY DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS AS PART OF THAT CHURCH.

WE RESPECT REVEREND PARKER AND THE CONGREGATION AND, UM, THE CONTACT TEAM AND ALL OF THE WORK THAT THE CITY HAS DONE.

BUT THIS CHURCH IS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT IS MOST LIKELY THE ONLY PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS DESIGNED BY A BLACK MAN THAT, UH, CONTRACTED BLACK FOLKS TO BUILD.

IT HAD, UH, UH, LUMBER, THE STONE, EVERYTHING WAS BUILT FROM BLACK FOLKS, AND IT WAS FINANCED THROUGH THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

SO IT'S, IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHURCH WANTS TO, TO GET THE MAXIMUM PROFIT FROM THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT WE WANT TO PRESERVE THAT CHURCH.

THERE ARE MOVES UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW THAT, UH, THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CHURCH IS RESERVED.

AND WE, AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION CHECK, UM, THE SOUTH WEST EDGE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'RE WANTING TO WORK WITH THE CHURCH AND THE NEIGHBORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT BUILDING IS PRESERVED AS HIS STORY.

THERE ARE MOVES UNDERWAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

I WOULD URGE THE COMMISSION TO TAKE YOUR TIME AND, UH, MAKING YOUR DECISIONS ON THE REZONING, UH, SO THAT THESE OTHER SOLUTIONS CAN COME TO PLAY.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

SO THAT IS ALL THE SPEAKERS I HAVE, UH, FOR AND AGAINST.

UH, THIS IS NOW TIME FOR APPLICANT REBUTTAL.

UH, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UH, TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEAR THAT ON TRACK FOUR, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CONTACT TEAM ON GR M U V C O.

I'LL JUST MAKE A COUPLE OF THIS.

ISN'T A CAL MEET AGAIN WITH HATCHBACK WILD.

JUST MAKE A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS.

UM, I WANT TO RESPOND TO THE NEIGHBOR ON FERDINAND, WHO IS CLOSEST TO TRACK ONE, JUST TO SAY THAT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON TRACKS ONE AND THREE, WHICH WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH DOES PROHIBIT THE USE OF THAT.

I THINK SHE'S REFERRING TO THAT MAY HAVE CHEMICALS AS PART OF THE USE, WHICH ARE AGRICULTURAL SALES AND SERVICES, DROPOFF RECYCLING, AND EXTERMINATING SERVICES.

THOSE UNDER STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WHICH WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH ARE PROHIBITED.

AND THEN SHE ALSO MENTIONED SERVICE STATION AND LAUNDRY SERVICES, AND THOSE ARE CONDITIONAL UNDER STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON TRACKS ONE AND THREE.

I ALSO WANTED TO REITERATE,

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HOWEVER, THE CEO ON THAT, UH, IN THAT AGREEMENT WITH PROHIBIT SEVERAL USES AS WELL, AND WOULD RESTRICT THE SITE TO LR SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

AND SO IT'S REALLY, UH, GR THAT LOOKS LIKE LR.

UM, BUT, UH, AFFORDS US THE ABILITY TO DO SOME OF THOSE GR USES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY DESIRABLE, LIKE A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT.

UM, AND JUST TO GO THROUGH THE LIST OF WHAT THAT CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WOULD PROHIBIT AGAIN, THAT'S ON PAGES 10 AND 11 OF YOUR BACKUP, BUT IT WOULD PROHIBIT AUTO RENTALS, AUTO REPAIR, AUTO SALES, AUTO WASHING BAIL BONDS, COMMERCIAL OFF STREET PARKING DROP-OFF, RECYCLING, OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT, PAWN SHOP, PETTY CAB STORAGE AND DISPATCH, DISPATCH, AND SERVICE STATION.

SO WE FEEL LIKE SOME OF THOSE USES THAT THE SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN EITHER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON ONE IN THREE OR THE AGREEMENT ON TRACK FOUR.

AND THAT'S ALL SCOTT.

UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, UH, SEE COMMISSIONER SHAY SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER.

UM, LET'S TAKE A VOTE.

UH, NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR ROUND ROBIN.

UH, WE HAVE EIGHT SLOTS, FIVE MINUTES EACH.

AND SO WHO WANTS TO GET US STARTED WITH THE Q AND A I'M LOOKING AROUND, UH, COMMISSIONER HOWARD.

UH, YOU GO FIRST.

SURE.

SO I THINK IT WAS HEATHER THAT DID THE PRESENTATION ON THE ZONING.

SO I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION FOR STAFF.

SO UNDERSTANDING ALL OF WHAT I, WITH THE, UH, DIALOGUE AND HARD WORK BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CONTACT TEAM, UH, TO THE CHURCH.

CAN YOU MAYBE JUST BRIEFLY SORT OF REITERATE AGAIN THE IMPETUS FOR, UM, WHAT, YOU'VE THE CHANGE IN THE RECOMMENDATION? I KNOW WE'VE HEARD ALL THIS BEFORE, BUT CAN YOU JUST MAYBE SUMMARIZE AGAIN, WHAT, IN LIGHT OF ALL OF WHAT WAS ASKED FOR WHY YOU BELIEVED THERE NEEDED TO BE SORT OF A DIFFERENT TAKE ON IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE STAFF AS FOR HEATHER OR THE STAFF? UH, IS SHE THERE? UM, HEATHER, ARE YOU THERE? UH, YOU, I HEAR YOU.

I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING SURE.

WELL, I HEARD, YEAH, I HEARD RUSTLING.

I THOUGHT THEY WERE ABOUT TO GET ON.

SO WE'LL GET IT BACK ON THE LINE.

COMMISSIONER, MY APOLOGIES.

SO LET'S GIVE IT TO YOU.

IT'S JASMINE, ARE YOU THERE? YES.

YOU HIT THE WRONG BUTTON.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE QUESTION IS THERE'S BEEN SENSITIVE WORK BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS, LAND, CONTACT APPLICANTS.

WE LOOK AT THE LAND USES AND ZONING PATTERNS IN THE AREA.

UM, I UNDERSTAND

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THEY'VE WORKED TOGETHER FOR A WHILE, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBLE ENCROACHMENT OF HIGHER INTENSITY LAND USES, PARTICULARLY IN THE FACT THAT IT'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES TO ONE TO THE NORTH AND THEN TO THE EAST AND THE SOUTH AND WEST.

I, I MISSED PART OF THE QUESTION.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ADDRESSES IT.

WELL, I MEAN, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO ELABORATE, I GUESS.

SO YOU WERE SAYING THE COMPATIBILITY WAS THE PRIMARILY CONCERN THAT PROMPTED SORT OF THE, THE LESS INTENSE USE AS FAR AS ZONING, BECAUSE WHAT SHARED WAS THAT THE WE'RE MISSING OUT ON AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SORT OF HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AS A RESULT OF THE ELO? IS THAT CORRECT? AWESOME.

UM, THE M U E L RECOMMENDATION DOES ALLOW, UM, DEVELOPMENT UP TO AN MS OR MS. THREE STANDARD.

IT DEPENDS ON THE PROPERTY ON WHAT CAN BE ACHIEVED THERE.

SO IT DOES ALLOW UP TO ROUGHLY 23 UNITS PER ACRE, AND THAT'S ON AN UNINVITED ON AN UNENCUMBERED SITE THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH COMPATIBILITY, DOESN'T HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES AND ALL THAT PROPERTY HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED OR AT THAT LEVEL YET, BECAUSE THERE ISN'T A SITE PLAN OR ANY ACTUAL PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SITE, I GUESS, AS A FOLLOWUP TO THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN, YOUR CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE ENCROACHMENT OF MAYBE A HIGHER INTENSE USE, PARTICULARLY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE BUDDING, UH, RESIDENTIAL, WAS THERE COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD? I MEAN, THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SUCH, BECAUSE I GUESS I WASN'T HEARING THAT NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO THIS AS OPPOSITION FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THERE ARE, THERE ARE LETTERS AND OPPOSITION, UH, BASED ON THESE ISSUES.

UH, JUST NOT PEOPLE WHO SPOKE AT THE MEETING.

THERE WERE LETTERS IN SUPPORT AND AN OPPOSITION AND PRIMARILY ON TRACK FOR, BUT ALSO IF YOU ON TRACK ONE AND THREE, PRIMARILY CLASS FOUR, THAT WAS ALL PROVIDED BACK UP.

I GUESS WE CAN SEND YOU THIS MAYBE SOMEWHERE.

I MEAN, HOW MANY, WHAT WAS SORT OF THE SPLIT AS FAR AS THE OBJECTIONS FOR VERSUS AGAINST? I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, OKAY.

THAT'S MY, I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE.

COMMISSIONER, UH, SHEA.

ARCHITECTURE IS VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, SO, UM, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR ALL THOSE THAT ARE HANDLING THE, KIND OF THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THIS, BECAUSE I MEAN, TO ME, FROM MY DESIGN BACKGROUND, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HISTORY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, COMMUNITY IS VERY IMPORTANT AND THE, THE, THE PLACE WHERE THIS CHURCH HAD IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO IN HISTORY OF, YOU KNOW, I MEAN BEING THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARCHITECT, EVEN FROM UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, I MEAN, ON AND ON THERE, THERE'S SO MUCH ABOUT THIS THAT WE CAN'T JUST ERASE AND MAKE GO AWAY.

I MEAN, IT WOULD BE A CRIME TO DO SO.

SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE WE DOING TO, UH, BE ABLE TO STILL NOT LOSE AND JUST ERASE THIS, YOU KNOW, THE STORY BEHIND THIS, RIGHT.

I MEAN, YES, THERE'S A LAW THAT SAYS THAT WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, I, AND I READ IT, IT SAYS WE CAN'T PUT THE HISTORIC, UH, ON IT, UNLESS, UNLESS THE CHURCH AGREES WITH IT.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE LAST SPEAKERS MENTIONED THAT THERE'S A MOVEMENT OR THERE'S SOMETHING COMING UP.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S THERE, WE CAN CUE HER UP AND ALSO WANT TO HEAR FROM, UH, MR. ABOUT HOW THIS CAN BE HANDLED.

UM, BECAUSE SO, YES, I MEAN, ARE WE REALLY MOVING BRICK BY BRICK? IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE MOVING THIS BUILDING? OR ARE WE NOT, UH, MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN CHIME IN ON WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE, OR IS THERE SOME MEMORIAL THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON OR SOMETHING? CAUSE WE DID THAT AT THE ONE OF THE EMANCIPATION SITES, UH, THAT WE PUT HISTORIC ON A CERTAIN PART OF IT.

AND WE HAD SOME TYPE OF A KIOSK OR SOMETHING TO, TO, TO TALK ABOUT

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IT.

MAYBE WE KEEP A PIECE OF THE BUILDING.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS ALSO, IF EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE READ AT LEAST THE HISTORIC STANDARDS THAT WERE COMING UP LATER ON OUR AGENDA, YOU WOULD SEE THAT JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING GETS ZONED HISTORIC DOESN'T MEAN YOU LOSE THE USES.

AND I WAS LOOKING AT IT, OH, WE HAD RUINED OUR USES.

IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S A PART OF THE BUILDING.

WE CAN STILL KEEP THAT COULD STILL BE PART OF WHAT WE KNOW WHAT IT EVOLVES INTO.

UM, SO ANYWAY, IT, IT DOESN'T STOP THE USES.

SO CAN MAYBE START WITH NICOLE, BRING IN STEVE.

AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM THAT, UM, THAT LAST SPEAKER ABOUT WHAT THAT MOVEMENT IS.

THIS IS NICOLE, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? I CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

UM, NICOLE MEET AGAIN FROM HATCHBACK.

WELL, SO I THINK IT WAS CITY STAFF THAT MENTIONED, UM, THE WORK THAT IS GOING ON TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THIS STRUCTURE.

AND SO THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO RELOCATE THE STRUCTURE COMMISSIONERS SAY, AND, UH, WE DON'T KNOW YET WE HAVE ARCHITECTS LOOKING AT IT.

WE DON'T KNOW YET, IF IT WILL BE BRICK BY BRICK OR HOW EXACTLY IT CAN BE DONE TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE STRUCTURE.

BUT THERE IS A LOT OF WORK GOING INTO TRYING TO FIND A PLACE WHERE THE BUILDING CAN BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE, CAN BE AND CAN BE THERE IN, CAN REMAIN IN PERPETUITY.

SO, YEAH, I MEAN, WE, UM, ARE HOPEFUL THAT THE COMMISSION DOESN'T RECOMMEND TO TIE UP THE ZONING BASED ON THAT, BECAUSE IT'LL BE AT LEAST TWO YEARS, I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE ASK ME WHEN WITH THE CHURCH ACTUALLY LEAVE THIS BUILDING.

IT WOULD BE AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND THAT'S, UH, BEING HOPEFUL BEFORE THE CHURCH WOULD LEAVE THIS BUILDING.

BUT, UH, THERE ARE MANY HANDS WORKING ON THAT ISSUE AND IT IS NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAID, BEING FORGOTTEN, IT'S NOT, IT IS ACTIVELY BEING WORKED ON.

UH, THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS THAT WE, THE BUILDING REALLY, ALTHOUGH SEVERAL USES, COULD, YOU CAN ADD USES TO THE PERMITTED USES ON THE TRACK.

THE BUILDING REALLY IS NOT FUNCTIONAL, UM, FOR VERY MANY USES.

AND WE, UH, ASKED SEVERAL DEVELOPERS TO OPINE ABOUT THAT.

THE BUILDING'S JUST NOT VERY FUNCTIONAL FOR MANY USES WITH, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE SANCTUARY BUILDING, WHICH IS THE JOHN CASE, HISTORIC BUILDING IS SITUATED ON THE TRACK.

SO, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN CONSIDERED, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOT A WAY FOR THE CHURCH TO YIELD ANY REAL VALUE FROM THE PROPERTY IF THE SANCTUARY BUILDING REMAINS ON THE PROPERTY.

SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS.

UH, IT, IT DOES, BUT I'M ALSO, I MEAN, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, LIKE AT THE MUELLER DEVELOPMENT, WE, WE KEPT THE MAIN, UM, UH, ONE OF THE, THE MAIN FLIGHT TOWER THING.

I MEAN, HERE WE HAVE THE BELL TOWER.

I MEAN, THIS IS ICONIC THAT WE CAN AT LEAST MAYBE INTEGRATE INTO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

I MEAN, SOMETHING, I MEAN, BECAUSE PART OF IT IS, IS, IS SO WE DON'T FORGET, RIGHT.

IF WE JUST MAKE IT GO AWAY AND SIT SOMEWHERE ELSE, I MEAN, THIS WAS A COMMUNITY KIND OF A, A BEACON, RIGHT.

UM, MAYBE THERE'S A PIECE OF IT THAT WE COULD KEEP JUST THE BELL TOWER PIECE.

UM, INTEGRATED, IT'S HARD TO DESIGN.

SO WE CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE OF THE USE OF THE PROPERTY.

BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST COMMENTS.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

AND THEN I KNOW THAT MR. WANTS TO CHIME IN ABOUT HOW THINGS LIKE THIS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE BUILDING.

IT'S, IT'S THE SENSE OF PLACE IT'S MR. SEDOWSKY THERE? YES.

PICK IT UP.

HOLD ON.

DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE SAID ONCE THAT'S THE QUESTION TO MISS HER? SEDOWSKY LET'S SEE A CONDITION TO BE HONEST TOLEDO.

SO, UH, MR. SEDOWSKY AT D UH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE QUESTION IS? NO, I DON'T.

MORE THAN JUST THE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TO, TO STILL PRESERVE THE SENSE OF PLACE BECAUSE IT, ONCE IT'S DONE IT CAN BE FORGOTTEN.

UH, UH, FINISHING ON THIS PALITO, DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO VERBALIZE THE QUESTION TO MR. SORRY.

ACTUALLY, IF, UH, THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, ASK, ASK HER TO REPEAT IT, COMMISSIONER SHEA.

SURE.

UM, MR. HE, CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT, UM, WHAT CAN BE DONE IN INSTANCES LIKE THIS, THAT IT, THAT CAN STILL PRESERVE SOME SENSE OF THE SENSE OF PLACE? CAUSE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS WE UNDERSTAND THE MOVEMENT OF TRYING TO PRESERVE THE BUILDING THAT CAN BE MOVED, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE SAW LIKE AT MUELLER, YOU SAVED THE TOWER.

IS THERE THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT CAN BE BROUGHT IN THAT WE CAN CONSIDER TO PRESERVE

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SURE.

UM, PRESERVATION OFFICE, HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH, I WOULD TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE HERE, UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS BUILDING HAS A LOT OF SIGNIFICANCE.

IT'S, UH, AN EXEMPLARY WORK OF THE CENTURY, MODERN ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGNED BY JOHN CHASE, WHO, UH, AS WAS REFERRED TO EARLIER, THE FIRST LICENSED AFRICAN-AMERICAN ARCHITECT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF SIGNIFICANCE HERE.

AND I THINK, UH, I, I WOULD NOT WANT TO GET AHEAD OF ANYTHING IN SAYING WHAT COULD OR COULD NOT BE DONE.

BUT I THINK EMPHASIZING THAT THIS BUILDING DOES HAVE SIGNIFICANCE AND THAT ALL PARTIES ARE TO MOVE TOWARD A GOAL OF PRESERVING, UH, AS MUCH, UH, GOOD ARCHITECTURE AND THE HISTORY OF THE CONGREGATION ON THE SITE AS POSSIBLE.

UM, BUT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD BE PRESERVED OR, YOU KNOW, IS, IS, IS THE TOWER, UH, MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE SANCTUARY? UM, I THINK ARE QUESTIONS THAT NEED FURTHER DISCUSSION.

UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I, I JUST, I THINK ON A ZONING ISSUE RIGHT NOW, UH, TALKING ABOUT PRESERVATION OF A BUILDING THAT THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ENFORCE ABSENT CONSENT OF THE, UH, RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION, PROPERTY OWNER.

UM, I THINK AT THIS POINT, WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS EMPHASIZE HOW AS A CITY, WE FEEL ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE CHURCH AND THE STORY THAT IT TELLS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ACCOMMODATE THAT IN ANY FUTURE PLANS.

SO COMMISSIONER YONAS, PALITO THERE'S FEW MINUTES LEFT.

I THINK THERE'S A QUESTION TO, UM, UH, BRENDA MALIQUE ABOUT ANY MOVEMENT AFOOT TO PRESERVE THIS BUILDING.

UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK THAT QUESTION? YES.

YES, PLEASE.

IS BRENDA MELLICK THERE? YES, I'M HERE.

WE HERE, YES.

THERE ARE, UH, DISCUSSIONS GOING ON, UH, THAT I'M NOT VERY PRIVY TO, UH, TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION TO PRESERVE THE BUILDING ITSELF, KNOWING THAT THE, THE CITY'S HANDS ARE TIED ON ACTUALLY DESIGNATING IT HISTORIC, BUT IT IS A HISTORIC BUILDING.

AND WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH REVEREND PARKER, UM, ABOUT PUTTING IN A CONDITION ON THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY TO AT LEAST PRESERVE THE AND NOT BEING AN ARCHITECT.

UH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, UH, IF THAT HAS BEEN PURSUED, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY ARE, THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS GOING ON RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF THE BUILDING CAN BE RELOCATED.

THERE ARE MANY MEMBERS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAT OBJECT TO THE RELOCATION BECAUSE IT WAS SUCH A BEACON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, FOR, UH, BLACK PROSPERITY AND, AND, AND ADVANCEMENT AND, AND, AND RELIGIOUS CONCERNS.

BUT IT'S, IF WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, I GUESS, IS SOME TIME IF MAYBE THIS CAN BE POSTPONED AGAIN, UM, WHAT, WHATEVER THE SOLUTION IS, UH, WE NEED TIMES TO, TO, UH, GET WITH SOURCES LIKE AUSTIN PRESERVATION, UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, AND OTHER, OTHER ENTITIES, ARCHITECTURAL, UH, FOUNDATIONS THAT, UH, WILL HELP WITH THIS, THIS KIND OF, UH, VENTURE, UH, TIME'S UP, UM, ON THAT, WHO ELSE READS THAT THREE OF OUR EIGHT TWO ELSE WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS? UH, I SEE COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER.

OF THE SORTS OF CASES ALL AROUND THE CITY, WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, PUTTING ASIDE THE HISTORIC CONCERNS, WHICH I THINK ARE, ARE REAL, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME REAL ISSUES.

UM, I THINK THIS IS FOR MS. CHECK THEN, UH, IN SOME WAYS I FEEL LIKE THIS CASE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A MICROCOSM

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AND, UM, DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, UM, THE LOTS THAT, UH, ARE ON THE CORE TRANSIT QUARTERS, I THINK THERE'S GENERAL AGREEMENT ABOUT THE, THAT THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CONTACT TEAM THAT THE APPLICANTS, UH, MS. CHAPMAN, UH, ONE OF THE COMMENTORS, UH, REALLY, UH, OBJECTING TO, UM, THE GR DESIGNATION AND SUPPORTING STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UH, FOR THE, UH, NUMBER FOUR LOT, THEY WRITTEN A SPECIFIC CONCERN ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A PARKING GARAGE GOING THERE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF ONE THING TO HAVE HEIGHT AND DENSITY UP AGAINST THE CORE, BUT ONCE YOU BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S MORE OF A CONCERN WHERE THERE, UM, HOUSES ALL AROUND.

SO I WONDER, FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, COULD, COULD APAR PARKING GARAGE BE UP THERE UNDER THE CONTACT TEAM AND THE AGREEMENT, OR, OR JUST TALK IN MORE GENERAL SENSE ABOUT THE, SORT OF THE SIZE AND SCALE OF WHAT MIGHT BE BUILT UNDER A GR VERSUS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION? SURE.

HEATHER CHAPLAIN, UH, HOUSING PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

LET ME, MY COMPUTER WORKING AGAIN.

I DO NOT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.

WELL, NO COMMERCIAL OFF STREET PARKING IS ONE OF THE PROHIBITED USES THAT HAVE BEEN FREED TO BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY PAID PARKING FOR A, AN UNRELATED USE.

OFFSITE IS PROFESSORY PARKING HAS DIFFERENT REGULATIONS AND DIFFERENT EXACT DEFINITION OF THAT.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY REGARDING THE PHYSICAL ASPECTS OF IT.

THIS SITE HAS COMPATIBILITY ISSUES.

AND THEN I ALSO HAD ISSUES AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND APPLICANT AGREED TO ABOUT SETBACK HEIGHT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT MY CALL, BUT A PARKING GARAGE AT THAT LOCATION WOULD PROBABLY BE PRETTY DIFFICULT.

WELL, AND AS I RECALL, THE, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGREEMENT WAS I THINK, 40 FEET IN HEIGHT WITH SETBACKS ON THE FRONT SIDE.

IS THAT YOUR RECOLLECTION? YEAH.

I THINK, UH, I THINK WE'RE AT A T DIDN'T RENT A TIME.

UH, IF I STILL HAVE A LITTLE TIME, COULD, COULD YOU, UM, MAYBE JUST TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE IN SCALE OF BUILDINGS BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONTACT TEAM AGREEMENT AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSES ARE, UH, TWO STORIES, WHICH IS, UH, IN THE 50 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT.

I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.

35 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT WHAT THE APPLICANT AND NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE AGREED TO IS 40 FEET, BUT NOT IN YOUR OPINION, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON YOUR OPINION, THOUGHT A BIG DIFFERENCE.

THERE'S A FIVE FOOT HEIGHT DIFFERENCE IS MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF'S CONCERN IS MORE ABOUT THE USES THAT MIGHT BE AT THAT LOCATION THAN A SCALE GIVEN THE, UM, THE OVERLAY, THE, UH, CONTACT TEAM AND THE APPLICANT HAVE AGREE TO, I WOULD SAY THE INTENSITY OF LAND USES AND ADDRESS REALLY WELL BY THE AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN ALSO STANDARD THE INTENSITY OF THE TRAFFIC AND FREQUENCY OF VISITOR CENTER TYPE OF USES.

IT'S VERY RARE FOR A, ANY INTENT COMMERCIAL.

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UH, SO WE'VE GOT A FEW MORE SLOTS.

WHO WOULD ANYBODY ELSE WITH QUESTIONS GOING AROUND? GO, OKAY.

COMMISSIONER ZAR, AND THEN COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

UM, THANK YOU CHAIR.

I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EFFORTS TO WORK ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND I KNOW, UM, THAT EVAN BARKER AND CHURCH HAVE REALLY BEGUN, YOU KNOW, THE CHARGE OF WANTING TO PRESERVE THIS BUILDING SERIOUSLY AND THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE ON IT AND THE DANCE THAT THEY HAVE MADE.

UM, AND YOU, AND MOVING FORWARD, IT'S NOT THAT THEY ARE GIVING UP ON THE RESERVATION OF THE CHURCH.

AND I REALLY WANT TO HEAR FROM REVEREND PARKER, IF HE COULD RESPOND, UM, TO THE IDEA OF PRESERVING THIS SPACE AS WELL.

YES, I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T GET, GET ALL THAT, BUT YOU ASKED ME TO SPEAK TO QUESTIONS.

UM, REVEREND PARKER, MY QUESTION WAS ESSENTIALLY, CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO THE EFFORTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE MADE REGARDING HIS DARK PRESERVATION NOW AND MOVING FORWARD? UH, WELL, YES, THAT'D BE, FIRST OF ALL, SAY THAT I AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT RELATIVE, UH, TO THE PRESERVATION OFFICE.

UH, I'M INCREASINGLY CONCERNED AS I'M LISTENING TO US GETTING OUR ZONING REQUESTS TIED WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND WE'RE HERE FOR THE ZONING REQUEST.

UM, WITH THAT SAID, UM, NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING, UH, THAT DAVID CHAPEL DOES NOT HAVE AS A PRIORITY.

UH LET'S REMEMBER THAT DAVID CHAPEL IS THE ONE THAT SELECTED JOHN CHASE.

DAVID CHAPEL IS THE ONE THAT APPROVED THE DESIGN, PAID FOR IT OUT OF ITCH.

MUDDY HAS PRESERVED IT FOR 61 YEARS AND WE DIDN'T NEED ANYONE ON THE OUTSIDE TO TELL US TO PRESERVE IT.

UM, AND SO I WORKED OVER THE YEARS, OUR INITIAL CONCERN AND HOPE HAD BEEN THAT WE COULD STAY AT THIS LOCATION.

THE CITY OF AUSTIN TOLD US THAT IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF THE CHURCH, THAT MINISTERS TO OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WE WOULD NEED EIGHT TO 10 ACRES.

WE HAVE ABOUT 300 ACRES.

WE WERE UNWILLING TO TRY TO PURCHASE, UH, HOUSES AS SOME OF THE GENTRIFIERS HAD DONE TO DESTROY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO WE HAD TO MAKE A DECISION TO LEAVE, UH, EVERY CONVERSATION THAT I'VE HAD WITH ANYONE WHO HAS APPROACHED US WITH INTEREST IN BUYING THE PROPERTY, I'VE ASKED EACH ONE, THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT, THEY NEEDED TO SHOW ME THEIR FAULTS ABOUT HOW THEY COULD PRESERVE THE BUILDING.

UH, SO NOTHING IS BEING SAID, THAT IS NOT A DAVID CHAPPELL PRIORITY.

UH, WHEN THE LEGISLATION WAS PASSED, THAT GIVES US THE AUTHORITY TO CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR PROPERTY.

I SAID TO REPRESENTATIVES TWO YEARS AGO IN 2015 TO THE PRESERVATIONIST IN AUSTIN, THAT THEY COULD COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL FOR HOW WE CAN PRESERVE THE BUILDING.

THEY COULD GATHER THE MONEY TO MAKE US AN OFFER, TO ENGAGE IN A CONVERSATION.

I WAS SAYING TO YOU COMMISSIONERS THAT OVER TWO YEARS, SINCE NIGHT, SINCE, SINCE THIS LEGISLATION WAS PASSED, NOT ONE PERSON FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, NOT OFFICE, UH, ASSOCIATION HAS REACHED OUT TO ME WITH THE CONVERSATION AND IT IS SOMEWHAT OFFENSIVE THAT NOW THERE'S A RUSH OR THIS KIND OF CONVERSATION.

NOW THAT WE'RE MOVING, WE OWN PROPERTY ON SPRINGDALE, WE ARE PAYING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN TEXAS.

THE LONGER WE DELAY WITH THIS ZONING REQUEST, IT IS DISOWNING REQUEST THAT ALLOWS US TO MOVE AND TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

I'M NOT PRIVY TO DISCUSS ALL OF THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE I AM NOT LEADING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

I HAVE BEEN ASKED IF I WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THOSE WHO ARE MAKING PROPOSALS,

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I'VE SAID OVER THE YEARS.

AND I SAY, NOW, YES, WE ARE INTERESTED AND WILLING TO CONSIDER THAT, BUT SOMETHING HAS TO COME TO US TO CONSIDER BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

I THINK THAT IS REALLY HELPFUL CONTEXT.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF AND MY REMAINING TIME, MR. SANDUSKY, OR ANYONE ELSE WHO MIGHT KNOW IF THE CITY HAS CONSIDERED, OR HAS HAD ANY PLAN ABOUT PRESERVATION BEFORE JUST SAYING, OR ANY OTHER EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN PRESERVATION FROM THE CITY SIDE CHAIR.

THAT WAS TIME.

UH, COMMISSIONER IS OUR WE'RE AT A TIME.

UH, BUT I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH SLOTS TO STILL INCLUDE ANDERSON'S QUESTION, BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO CONTINUE ON WITH YOUR QUESTION, DO I HAVE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER THAT WILL OKAY.

TAKE UP THE QUESTION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CONLEY.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE UP, UH, AS FAR AS QUESTION AND BASICALLY, I GUESS HAVE AS IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND JUST REPEATING THAT FOR ME, BUT BASICALLY IT'S A QUESTION TO STAFF.

IS THAT CORRECT ABOUT ANY POSSIBLE EFFORTS FOR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION OF THE BUILDING? YES.

AND INQUIRING, IF ANY EFFORTS HAVE BEEN MADE OR CURRENTLY BEING MADE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

IS THIS STEVE TEDESCHI, MINNESOTA PRESERVATION OFFICE? NO, NOTHING TO DATE.

I MEAN, THE BUILDING HAS BEEN, UH, NOTED MANY TIMES AS HAVING SIGNIFICANCE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL AND HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

IT WOULD BE, UH, IT WOULD BE AN EASY CANDIDATE FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION EXCEPT FOR THE STATE LAW, BUT THAT REQUIRES THE CONSENT OF THE RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION THAT OWNS IT.

UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, AND AS A FOLLOWUP QUESTION, I THINK THE QUESTION IS LESS ABOUT, UH, THE DESIGNATION OR ZONING MORE ABOUT ACTUAL PLANS OR, OR PROPOSALS, UM, AROUND ACTUALLY ALLOCATING MONEY OR, OR APPROACHING THE CHURCH WITH A POSSIBLE PROPOSAL, UH, FOR THE ACQUISITION OR PRESERVATION OF THE PROPERTY BEYOND JUST ZONING.

COMMISSIONER, AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO, THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY CONVERSATIONS IN THAT DIRECTION.

NO, SIR.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, DO YOU WANT TO USE THE REST OF YOUR TIME COMMISSIONER CONLEY OR ARE YOU FINISHED? UM, I, I YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME.

AFTER WEEK WITH STAFF, WE'RE DEALING WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE.

UH, SO THAT MOVES US TO FINISH YOUR ANDERSON.

I BELIEVE YOU HAD A QUESTION.

UM, YEAH, I SHARE PASTOR PARKER'S CONCERNS OF COMMUNITY KNOWING BEST AND GIVING HIM HISTORIC ZONING THAT HE IS NOT ASKING FOR.

UM, I WOULD CALL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS AN EFFORT IN THE CITY TO DO JUST THAT.

AND THE CITY HAD THE STATE RATHER HAD TO INTERVENE AND CORRECT THE CITY'S MISSTEP AND A LOT OF PEOPLE'S OPINION.

SO, UM, I, I WOULD DEFINITELY TALK TO STAFF FOR ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE.

SO I HEARD THINGS SUCH AS, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE DISCONNECT ON TRACK FOR, UM, LAND USES AND ZONING PATTERNS IN THE AREA AND LOOKING AT, UM, ENCOURAGING WITH MORE INTENSE USES.

UM, IT'S THE PRIMARY USE AROUND THAT AREA WHERE, UM, SQUARE, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE VALUE OF THOSE HOMES AND THEY'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH OVER 500,000.

UM, ONE OF THEM THREE LOTS AWAY IS 950,000.

AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHEN STAFF CONSIDER SUCH THINGS, UM, DO THEY WEIGH IN THE FACT LIKE, OKAY, IF WE SAY IT SHOULD BE LESS INTENSE, OR I THINK I HEARD INTENSE SINGLE FAMILY A MOMENT AGO, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT MAYBE TAKING INTO FULL CONSIDERATION, UM, ALL THE LIMITATIONS OF OUR HORRIBLE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SUCH AS SITE AREA REQUIREMENTS THAT TO DOWN THE NUMBER OF HOMES WE CAN HAVE AS WELL, IF ALL WE CAN PRODUCE HERE HOMES FOR THE TOP 20% OF INCOME EARNERS, BUT DOES THAT QUESTION POP INTO STAFF'S HEAD? AND WHEN THE ANSWER IS YES.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I CAN UNDERSTAND THEY'RE NOT WANTING TO BE A RUSHED ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT STAFF, MY QUESTION IS, UM, IF WE'RE TRYING TO SAY THE ONLY HOUSING WELD OUT HERE IS ONLY IS HOUSING AVAILABLE TO THE TOP 20% OF INCOME EARNERS, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO EVEN ALLOW INCOME RESTRICTED HOMES TO BE HERE, WHICH THE APPLICANT WAS WANTING TO DO HERE WITH THE V DESIGNATIONS.

I REALLY AM I MISSING SOMETHING OR IS THIS JUST, I FEEL LIKE WEEK

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SO PLEASE HELP ME.

COMMISSIONERS HEATHER CHAFFIN HOUSING PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOCUS WAS ON THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE INTENSITY OF ZONING CATEGORIES ALONG EAST MLK, AS THEY GO SOUTH INTO AN AREA THAT IS PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THE ELO REAL QUICK.

LET ME ASK THE QUESTION.

SO THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THE PHYSICAL SHAPE OF THE ENVIRONMENT VERSUS THE PEOPLE WHO GET TO LIVE HERE, OR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCLUDED FROM HERE.

I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER ABOUT WHO CAN LIVE HERE OR IS EXCLUDED HERE.

I WAS RECORDING NO HOUSING COSTS.

HOUSING RUNS LIKE IT'S, IT'S VERY EASY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HOUSING COSTS ARE AND THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT'S FOR SALE AND, AND TYPES HOUSING THAT ALLOWED HOUSING TO BE LESS EXPENSIVE, WHICH THE BB IMMUNE DESIGNATION HELPS US WITH.

SO WHEN, WHEN WE BACKTRACKED FROM THAT, AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWING THAT, THAT DESIGNATION WITH THOSE AFFORDABLE HOMES AND THE MORE MARKET RATE HOMES THAT ARE ALL BE, IT CAN BE SMALLER.

NOW THAT WE'RE PROHIBITING WITH THIS CHANGE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, I'M JUST, I'M JUST CURIOUS, WAS THIS JUST SIMPLY ABOUT TYPOGRAPHY AND THE BUILDING SHAPE? AND WAS THERE ANY LIKE, W WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT PATTERN AROUND HOW AFFORDABLE THE IMPACT COULD BE? IF ANY, AGAIN, UM, AS I SAID, THE INTENSITY OF THE TYPES OF LAND USES WAS THE PRIMARY CONCERN WITH STAFF.

WE DO SUPPORT A CATEGORY THAT ALLOWS MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPMENT LEVEL.

UM, THE, THIS IS NOT A CORE TRANSIT CORRIDORS.

THERE ARE MANY REASONS THAT THE MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL HOUSES, BUT, UM, STAFF DOES NOT WEIGH IN ON WHETHER OR NOT UNITS ARE AFFORDABLE FOR ZONING.

CLIENTS, IT'S ACTUALLY THE WAY THE LAND IS BEING USED AND THE WAY THAT, THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, IF THAT'S HOW I CORRECTLY UNDERSTAND THE SHAPING, HAVE THE CHAPLAIN HOUSING PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS JUST CIRCLES BACK TO THAT BIGGER CONVERSATION WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT.

I THINK WE'RE STILL WAITING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE CAN HAVE THAT WITH STAFF.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER HEARD THAT MOVE.

YOU TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT WE'RE STILL NOT HEARING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE V DESIGNATION AND, AND WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE AND WHERE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE AND HOW WE CAN USE IT MORE BROADLY WHILE WE'RE STILL WORKING UNDER THIS TERRIBLE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT DOES NOT HAVE RULES, OR DOES NOT HAVE TOLD US TO ALLOW FOR INCOME RESTRICTED HOUSING.

YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING WE SEEM TO HAVE, WE KEEP FINDING EXCUSES NOT TO USE, AND I DON'T KNOW, EVENTUALLY HAD TO STOP.

SO, UH, WE HAVE ONE MORE AND I KNOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER YOU ON THIS POLLITO KIND OF GAVE UP HER SLOT.

UH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT HAS NOT ASKED A QUESTION THAT IS, UM, THAT REALLY NEEDS TO, OR WANTS TO, IF NOT AT ALL, I'LL YIELD THE LAST SPOT TO, UH, COMMISSIONER YON IS PLATO.

I MEAN, I CAN WITHDRAW MINE.

THAT'S FINE.

I CAN SPEAK TO IT.

I'M NOT HEARING ANY HANDS.

UM, UH, I THINK YOU CAN HAVE SPOT NUMBER EIGHT.

UH, I SUPPOSE, I SUPPOSE IF STAFF COULD, UM, MAYBE CLARIFY SOMETHING FOR ME, BECAUSE IN THE LAST EXCHANGE I'M GETTING A LITTLE, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A, UH, A DIFFERENCE IN APPROACH TO THE QUESTION, BECAUSE WHAT I HEAR IS A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE INTENSITY OF USE AND THE WAY THAT BUILDINGS ARE BEING USED IN THIS AREA.

AND THE FACT THAT AS ONE SPEAKER MENTIONED, THIS IS A MID LOT TRACT.

SO THIS ACTUALLY DOES GO SIGNIFICANTLY INTO A SINGLE FAMILY AREA.

AND IF STAFF CAN CONFIRM THAT THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS, AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING@AZILLOW.COM LIST OF REAL ESTATE LISTINGS, I JUST WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT THIS IS NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING BASED ON USE.

THAT'S HOW OUR LAND CODE WORKS FOR BETTER, FOR WORSE.

AND SO EVEN IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LISTED HOME VALUES IN AN AREA THAT DOESN'T MEAN ALL THOSE HOMES ARE FOR SALE, THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT HOW I LOOK AT MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S NOT HOW I LOOK AT MY NEIGHBORS, UH, WHAT OUR HOUSES ARE WORTH, WHICH MIGHT BE MORE THAN WHAT WE BOUGHT THEM FOR IN WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO HOLD ON TO.

UM, AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION AND GET THAT CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE WAY THAT WE USE LAND AND WHO LIVES THERE AND COMPATIBILITY ISSUES IN THAT SENSE, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT I REALLY TAKE ISSUE WITH, WHICH IS COMMODIFYING OUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE ARE ON A PRICE SHEET.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE, WE'RE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE'RE COMMUNITY AND THERE'S HISTORY HERE.

AND THAT MATTERS.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A HYPOTHETICAL BUYING MARKET AND

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I THINK EVERYTHING TENDS TO BE THE TYPE OF USE AND WHETHER OR NOT MAYOR LEE ADJACENT TO NEIGHBORHOOD SINGLE FAMILY.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS AREA THAT ARE NOT IN THE TOP 20% OF THIS CITY WHO ARE TRYING TO HANG ON, AND THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON FOR HISTORIC ZONING.

SO THAT WRAPS UP OUR EIGHT SPOTS.

UH, I KNOW THIS IS A, WE GOT A BUNDLE HERE.

WE HAVE, BIDEN'S BE, WANTS TO BE FOUR.

SO DOES SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION CHAIR, COMMISSIONER AZHAR I AM GOING TO MOVE THAT.

WE ACCEPT STAFF RECOMMENDED ON ITEMS B ONE B2 AND B3.

IN ADDITION, AN ITEM BEFORE I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS IT STATED ON PAGE 10 AND 11 OF THE BACKUP FOR ITEM BEFORE.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS OUT JUST FOR CLARITY, BUT THIS WOULD BE A BASE ZONING OF G V U C O AND B, AND THE CEO WILL FIRSTLY MODIFY THE GR SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS 5,700 AND 150 SQUARE FEET.

MINIMUM LOT WIDTH IS 50 FEET.

THAT'S WHEN BUILDING COVERAGE IS 50% MAXIMUM SLOPE AND YOUR RATIO IS 0.5 TO ONE.

MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 40 FEET, MINIMUM SETBACKS, OR FRONT YARD, A 25 FOOT STREET, 15 FEET, THE INTERIOR SIDE YARD AND THEIR REAR YARD SETBACKS ARE NOT LINKABLE.

AND THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WILL ALSO SERVE TO PROHIBIT THE FOLLOWING USERS ON TRACK FOR AUTOMOTIVE RENTALS, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR SERVICES, AUTOMOTIVE SALES, AUTOMOTIVE, WASHING REAL BONDS, COMMERCIAL OFF STREET PARKING DROP-OFF RECYCLING OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT BOND SHOP THAT HAD GAB STORAGE AND DISPATCH AND SERVING STATIONS.

SO ESSENTIALLY AGAIN, STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON B ONE B2 AND B3 AND FOUR BEFORE, UM, THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN APPLICANT AND NEIGHBORHOOD AS STATED ON PAGE 10 AND 11 OF OUR BACKUP.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, AND MAYBE, UM, ARE ALL THE CONDITIONS YOU IDENTIFIED PART OF THE CEO THAT'S IN THAT GR M U V C O N P A IS.

SO THEY WOULD SAY SITE MODIFICATION, SITE DEVELOPMENT, STANDARD MODIFICATIONS, AND ADDITIONAL OVERLAY ON USERS.

SO THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD CHANGE ARE NOT PART OF THE CEO.

THERE THEY'RE SEPARATE.

THEY WOULD BE PART OF THE CEO.

THEY ARE PART OF THE CEO.

SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO, UH, COMMISSIONER CZAR? OKAY.

I SEE COMMISSIONER CONLEY SECONDS.

UH, SO COMMISSIONER ZAHRA, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR, UH, MOTION? SURE.

YOU KNOW, I JUST QUICKLY WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS CHURCH FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND JUST THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE ARCHITECTURE ITSELF.

AGAIN, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, UM, JOHN S. CHASE AS THE ARCHITECT OF THE CHURCH, AND HE WAS THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN GRADUATE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE.

AND SO AS A STUDENT OF THAT SCHOOL, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I'M PROUD TO CALL JOHN CHASE AND ALUMNI, AND CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE CHURCH IN HIS WORK AND FOR THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY.

AND I REALLY HOPE THAT MOVING FORWARD AS A CITY AND A COMMUNITY, WE CAN FIND A WAY TO PRESERVE THE MAIN CHURCH BUILDING.

HOWEVER, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER BEEN BARKER, BUT WELL, THIS TIME I DON'T, I WANT TO RESPECT THE WISHES OF THE DAVID CHAPEL CHURCH AND REVEREND BARKER.

AND WE ENDED THE, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT USE THE ZONING GATES TO BUSH FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION, EVEN THOUGH I WISH AND HOPE THAT THE FUTURE, WE CAN REALLY FIND A WAY TO PRESERVE THIS IMPORTANT BUILDING.

AMENDMENT AND NOT THE ZONING.

CAN I GET A CLARIFICATION CLARIFICATION? SO IS THE, IS B ONE THE TRACK OF THE ACTUAL, UH, CHURCH? IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? UH, WELL, I GUESS LET'S GO IN ORDER, UH, PRIMARY MEMBER AGAIN.

SO YOU HAVE ANYBODY AGAINST THE MOTION, RIGHT? SEEING NONE.

DO YOU HAVE A SECOND MEMBER FOR, I, SORRY.

I WANTED TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION FOR AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN

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UH, YES.

SO CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHICH ONE IS THE ZONING FOR THE, THE ACTUAL BUILDING.

OKAY, THANKS.

UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND, UH, SPEED FOR FOUR, OR TO SEE NUMBER FOUR NEUTRAL? YOU PROBABLY WANT ME TO SAY ANYTHING.

COMMISSIONER SHEA MUST SPEAK NEUTRALLY.

SO I'M GOING TO THINK NEUTRALLY ON THE TWO, UM, PARTLY IN THAT A LOT OF THE DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S STILL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE, I KNOW THAT THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT THE, UH, ZONING AT HISTORIC OR NOT HISTORIC, BUT THERE'S WORK TO, TO SOMEHOW STILL NOT LOSE A HISTORY OF WHERE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THERE'S WAYS TO DO IT.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PRESERVED THE WHOLE BUILDING.

IT DOESN'T, IT COULD BE A PART OF THE BUILDING.

IT COULD BE SOME, SOME REFLECTION BACK TO WHAT IT WAS.

IT COULD BE SO MANY DIFFERENT SHAPES, BUT, UM, FORMS, BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED ON, ON WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOSING HERE.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T GAIN WHAT THE ZONING AND THE NEW USE IS GOING TO BE.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE WORK TO BE DONE.

AND I THINK THERE'S A WAY TO GET A WIN-WIN SITUATION.

UM, WE JUST GOTTA GET CREATIVE ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY'S ON TWO DIFFERENT SIDES.

EITHER YOU KEEP THE BUILDING AND YOU DON'T KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF IN-BETWEENS, SO I'M GOING TO STAY ON P TWO AND THAT'S MY NEUTRAL ON THAT ONE.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR, OKAY.

SO I AM DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BUILDING SAFE AND BEEN PRESERVED.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WE CAN SAVE IT OR PRESERVE IT THROUGH A ZONING BATTLE OR THROUGH ZONING RESTRICTIONS AT THIS POINT.

AND I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

I'M A BIG CHAMPION OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN PRESERVE THIS BUILDING I'VE ALREADY SAID SO, BUT IT'S FASCINATING TO ME HOW WE ALWAYS CARE SO MUCH ABOUT HISTORIC HISTORICALLY PRESERVING PLACES, UM, THAT ARE HISTORIC PLACES FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR.

ONCE THE PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE NO LONGER THERE, WHICH BEGS THE QUESTION, HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR WHO, RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS SENSE OF PLACE, BUT PEOPLE MAKE THE PLACE AND WE'VE GOTTEN RID OF THE PEOPLE THE PEOPLE HAVE MOVED ON AND THEY WANT TO BE CLOSER TO THE NEW CHURCH.

THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEW PLANS.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST UNFAIR.

UM, I ABSOLUTELY HOPE THAT THE CITY CAN MAKE THE PRESERVATION OF THIS ACTUAL BUILDING A PRIORITY.

I HOPE THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS CAN COME FORWARD.

I HOPE THAT ALL INTERESTED PARTIES CAN COME FORWARD AND WORK TO MAKE A, FIND A WAY TO PRESERVE THIS BUILDING, BUT IT'S JUST COMPLETELY UNFAIR THAT THE MOMENT A HISTORIC BLACK COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN IS GOING TO HAVE AN, TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOME EQUITY AND TO CHOOSE THEIR OWN DESTINY HERE.

UM, THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE COME IN WITH OUR, ALL OF OUR CONCERNS ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT OF WHAT THE CHURCH IS ASKING FOR AND WHAT THE CHURCH HAS AGREED UPON, WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT TEAM.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS AGAINST, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, LAYTON BURWELL? YEAH, I, I OBVIOUSLY I'M A NONVOTING MEMBER, UH, BUT IN DEFENSE OF, UH, STAFF'S POSITION GR SPECIFICALLY SAYS DESIGNATION OF OFFICE OR OTHER COMMERCIAL USE THAT SERVES NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT IS GENERALLY ACCESSIBLE FROM A MAJOR, UH, TRAFFIC WAY.

I DON'T THINK CHESTNUT QUALIFIES FOR THAT.

AND IF I COULD VOTE, I WOULD CERTAINLY VOTE AGAINST, UM, HAVING GR ON THE TRACK, UM, TRACK, UM, ON, BEFORE THE TRACK FOR, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE, UH, REGARDING THE, I SHARE, UH, COMMISSIONER SHAY'S CONCERNS ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION, BUT IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL ON, UH, B ONE 13 OF, UH, 46, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE CHURCH'S INTENTION, IT SAYS, PASTOR JOSEPH PARKER SAYS PEOPLE ARE, HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET US TO PRESERVE THE BUILDING, BUT I'VE RESISTED THIS BECAUSE OF IT LIVE, IT LIMITS THE USAGE.

UM, AND, UH, HE IS, UH, IT SEEMS THAT THEY'VE PRESERVED THE BUILDING FOR 60 YEARS AND HE BELIEVES THAT THAT'S ENOUGH.

HE SAYS, UM, IN TERMS OF PUTTING A HISTORIC, UH, DESIGNATION ON THE BUILDING PASTOR, UH, PARKER SAYS I'M NOT WILLING TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT LIMITS US.

SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BATTLE TO TRY TO GET A HISTORIC PRESERVATION ON THIS.

ALTHOUGH I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT, UH, LANDMARK IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, SPEAKERS FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

JEFF.

AND WE CAN IGNORE REALITY WHERE THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES DO COSTS SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND.

THIS HAS BEEN A VERY INTERESTING CASE AND I'M GLAD WE'RE HERE

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TONIGHT.

AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT PASTOR PARKER WAS HERE WITH US ALL NIGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. PARKER.

UM, I REALLY LIKED WHAT COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY HAD TO SAY ABOUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY WHAT IS IMPORTANT HERE IS THAT THE PEOPLE ARE IN THE BUILDING.

AND IF WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I THINK WE'D DO A LOT OF THINGS DIFFERENTLY IN AUSTIN.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE GOOD EXAMPLES OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, BUT IF YOU BREAK IT UP, THERE'S THE PHYSICAL NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, WHICH MEANS NOTHING CAN CHANGE.

AND IF IT WAS BUILT AS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH RACIAL COVENANTS THAT WERE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE PRETTY MUCH ALL YOU CAN BUILD THERE.

AND WE CAN SAY BY GOLLY, I WISH THEY DIDN'T.

I THINK WE SHOULDN'T THINK THAT WAY WHEN THAT IS THE REALITY THAT THE FOLKS WHO ARE OUT THERE WHO NEED HOUSING, THAT WAS THE, THEIR REALITIES.

AND I AGREE, I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT REALITY.

IT'S NOT A WAY OF, WE THINK OF IT A CERTAIN WAY.

I ALWAYS, IT WASN'T THAT REALITY.

AND WHEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUILD A LESS EXPENSIVE HOUSING TIME AND TO ALLOW SOME INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS, AND WE'RE GOING TO FOREGO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY EXPENSIVE HOMES NEARBY THAT MIGHT NOT WANT THAT, OR MIGHT NOT BLEND TOGETHER WITH IT AS WELL.

I MEAN, THE MOST INTERESTING PLACES IN THE WORLD ARE VERY BLENDED TOGETHER AREAS THAT ALLOW FOR A DIVERSITY OF INCOME EARNERS.

AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE GET TO SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT AND I HOPE TO SEE IT THROUGH, AND I WISH THE BEST FOR ST.

DAVID'S SHUTTLE.

UH, ONE MORE SLOT FOR SPEAKERS AGAINST.

SO, UM, CAN I SPEAK NEUTRALLY? YES.

SEEN THIS NOW MULTIPLE TIMES HAPPENED ON OUR COMMISSION WHERE ONE COMMISSIONER AND OTHER COMMISSIONERS RESPOND, TAKE TIME TO RESPOND TO WHAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID AND NEGATE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.

UM, I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THIS CASE, UH, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO TRY AND SEPARATE TRACK FOUR FROM THE REST OF THIS.

AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I AM IN, I DO REALLY RESPECT THE AGREEMENT THAT THE CONTACT TEAM HAS COME UP WITH WITH THE CHURCH.

UM, AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT TRACK FOR, FOR THE REASONS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.

UM, I THINK THIS IS A TRICKY SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDERS.

AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CENTERING PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN MOST IMPACTED BY INSTITUTIONAL RACISM IN AUSTIN, WHO ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THE CHANGING PATTERNS AND WHO ARE ADAPTING CONSTANTLY, WE DO HAVE TO CONSIDER, UH, LANDOWNERS, ESPECIALLY LANDOWNERS OF COLOR, ESPECIALLY BLACK AND LATINO LANDOWNERS WHO HAVE STEWARDED THESE PROPERTIES AND HAVE A RIGHT TO EARN A RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT.

AND WE ALSO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTED, WHO LIVE WITH WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PROPERTY AFTER THOSE LANDOWNERS HAVE SOLD THEIR LAND.

UM, AND THAT DOES INCLUDE PEOPLE OF COLOR COMMISSIONER CANNOLI AND COMMISSIONER ANDERSON IN PARTICULAR.

I WANT TO, UM, URGE YOU ALL AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, TO BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR WORDS, BECAUSE I KNOW ITEM, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT COMMISSIONERS YET.

THIS IS ABOUT THE ITEM, PLEASE.

I WANT TO SAY THAT I WILL BE CAREFUL WITH MY WORDS.

I KNOW, I KNOW MS. BRENDA MALIQUE.

I KNOW A LOT OF THOSE ROGERS, WASHINGTON HOMELAND, HOLY CROSS RESIDENTS.

I KNOW THE PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO STILL LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAVE FOUGHT TO GET HISTORIC ZONING AND WHO YOU HEARD FROM TONIGHT.

AND I ALSO HEARD MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS SAY, WELL, THERE ARE MORE EXPENSIVE HOMES NEARBY THAT MIGHT NOT WANT THIS THERE.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE, DON'T REFER TO PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO ARE HANGING ON TO A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AS EXPENSIVE HOMES, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT, WHO'S TALKING, IT'S ACTUAL RESIDENTS.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE OF COLOR IN EAST AUSTIN.

THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE OF COLOR IN EAST AUSTIN FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TALK ABOUT AN EAST AUSTIN THAT DOES NOT HAVE PEOPLE OF COLOR WORTH FIGHTING FOR NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

PLEASE DO NOT TO PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

IT WAS TALKING ABOUT, WELL, YOU SAID WE'RE WILLING TO FIGHT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE NO LONGER HERE.

AND I'M TELLING YOU ARE ON THE LINE TELLING YOU THAT THEY ARE STILL HERE.

SO I'M SAYING WE SHOULD ALL BE CAREFUL WITH OUR WORDS.

AND THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE NEED SOME ORDER HERE.

IT'S STUFF THAT SORRY.

YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE.

UM, WE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

IT'S ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT MAKES US STRONG THAT WE ALL BRING SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO THE TABLE.

SO PLEASE DIRECT YOUR, YOUR, UM, YOUR COMMENTS TO THE ISSUES AND THE IDEAS AND NOT THE PEOPLE I WOULD PLEASE DON'T DIRECT YOUR, UH, RESPONSES TO THE PEOPLE, MAKING THEM THESE ARE IDEAS THAT ARE SHARED BY MANY OTHERS.

WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES US STRONG.

SO THAT'S, THEY'RE IMPORTANT IDEAS AND THEY'RE IMPORTANT PRINCIPLES.

AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY THAT WE DON'T CARE AFTER WE'RE DONE COMMISSIONER AZHAR POINT OF ORDER.

I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY SAY I HAVE

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AND I DO NOT APPRECIATE THIS WAY.

MOVING FORWARD, THEN MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL NOT BE NEGATING OR RESPONDING TO OTHER PEOPLE'S COMMENTS IN THIS WAY.

WELL, LET ME, UH, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT, UH, TO THE HEALTH OF THE COMMISSION.

AND WE WILL TRY TO TAKE THIS UP IN THIS IDEA AT ANOTHER TIME, I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS, BUT LET'S GET THROUGH THE ZONING CASE AND GIVE THE FOLKS THERE A TIME THAT WE NEED TO COMMIT TO THESE CASES.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO REPEAT THE MOTION, UH, THAT WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER.

AZHAR SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FINALLY, UH, IF I HAVE MY NOTES, RIGHT.

AND THAT IS THAT WE'RE GOING WITH, UH, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, UH, FOR ITEMS B ONE THROUGH B3, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND ITEM FOUR, WE'RE GOING WITH THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE AFFLECK COMMIT APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT TEAM, UH, FOR G R M U V C O N P.

AND THE UNDERSTANDING THERE THAT IS ALL THE CONDITIONS ARE WRAPPED INTO THAT CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT WE SUPPORT.

UH, SO IS THAT CORRECT? COMMISSIONERS? ARE, WAS THAT OKAY? ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND NOSE IN FAVOR.

UH, LET IT LEAD.

I NEED TO COUNT.

SO, UH, PLEASE RAISE YOUR GREEN, UH, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT.

I HAVE EIGHT IN FAVOR.

ALRIGHT, THOSE AGAINST PLEASE RE UH, SHOW ME YOUR RED AND THOSE NEW, UH, ABSTAINING OR SO, UM, CAN, CAN I SHOW THAT I SUPPORT ALL EXCEPT IT'S STAINING ON A B2.

CAN I DO THAT? YOU GROUPED THEM ALL TOGETHER, RIGHT? SO THEY'RE INDIVIDUAL.

SO I WANT TO SHOW THAT I'M GOOD WITH, UH, ONE, THREE, FOUR, AND ABSTAINING ON TWO.

SO, UM, OKAY.

LET'S, UH, WE'RE NOT COMPLETED THIS, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND ROLL THIS BACK.

WE'RE GOING TO SPLIT THE QUESTION.

AND SO, WHICH ARE THE ITEMS YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR COMMISSIONER SHEA? ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR AS COMMISSIONERS ARE SET.

SO WE'VE SPLIT THE QUESTION.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A VOTE ON B ONE B3 AND BEFORE.

SO PLEASE, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THOSE ITEMS, PLEASE SHOW ME YOUR CARDS.

AND I LEAVE IT AT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE.

SO FOR ITEMS V1 THREE, AND BEFORE THOSE AGAINST C HEARING NONE, AND THOSE, UH, THAT ARE STAYING NEUTRAL.

SO THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP, UH, ITEM B TWO IS THE SECOND, UH, PART OF THE QUESTION.

SO LET ME SEE THOSE IN FAVOR OF V2.

I SEE EIGHT AND THOSE AGAINST V2.

I HAVE ZERO AND THOSE THAT ARE STAINING.

I HAVE TWO.

THIS IS KATE CLARK WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND I AM PRESENTING ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA.

I THINK WE'VE COMPLETED THAT, UM, THEN ITEM.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, GIVE ME A CHANCE HERE TO CATCH UP.

UH, WE NEXT HAVE, UM, ITEMS, SORRY.

I DO NOT HAVE A FANCY HOUSE IN CABINET NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, SO WE'RE, UH, WE'RE DONE WITH THE ITEMS WE WANT TO BE FOR, OR TAKING UP ON IT'S B

[Items B5 & B6]

FIVE AND B6.

AND SO, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STAFF PRESENTATION ON THAT LINE, THOSE ITEMS. THANKS.

THIS IS MARIE MEREDITH, UH, HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT ITEM B FIVE IS NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO TO 1.0 TO 1100 MANLOVE STREET.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1100 MANLESS STREET.

IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE EAST RIVERSIDE OLD TORQUE COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA.

THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE.

IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF THE EAST RIVERSIDE OLTORF COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.

CONTACT TEAM SUBMITTED A LETTER IN OPPOSITION TO THESE REQUESTS, AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CORRESPONDENCE IN THE STAFF CASE REPORT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

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THIS IS CASE NUMBER C4, 13 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO EIGHT ONE 1100 MANLOVE STREET.

THIS PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 0.36 ACRES IN SIZE IS LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE IN EACH RIVERSIDE DRIVE INTERSECTION ON A RESIDENTIAL CUL-DE-SAC.

AND IT IS SURROUNDED BY ERC NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE DINING INTO THE NORTH INTO THE EAST AND SOUTH AND G R M U B O DONE INTO THE WEST.

THE APPLICANT CURRENTLY OWNS AND OPERATES A BUSINESS ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT TRACK ON EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE TO THE NORTH.

THEY REQUESTING TO REBOUND HIS PROPERTY FROM SSD AND P TO N O N U N P IN ORDER TO USE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY AS ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACE TO SUPPORT THE CURRENT BUSINESS OPERATIONS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO READ THEM TO N O M U N P.

THIS PROPERTY IS ACCESSED VIA INGLEWOOD STREET, WHICH TURNS INTO MENLO STREET AND DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO EITHER THE FURNITURE ROAD OR EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

AT CURRENT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DEFINES THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DUNNING DISTRICT AS A DESIGNATION FOR SMALL OFFICE USE THAT SERVES NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY NEEDS IS LOCATED IN OR ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND ON A COLLECTIVE STREET THAT HAS IT WITH THE 40 FEET OR MORE WHILE THIS PROPERTY DOES BACK TO EXISTING OFFICE AND COMMERCIALLY DONE TRACKS, THESE PROPERTIES ARE ACCESSED BY EITHER THE FURNITURE ROAD OR EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

THIS PROPERTY IS AT THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC, WHICH IS ACTIVE THROUGH MULTIPLE LOCAL SHEETS.

IT'S NOT ON A COLLECTOR OR THROUGH THE STREET THAT CONNECTS TO A COLLECTOR REZONING.

THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT AT THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE LDC DEFINITION, A PETITION OPPOSING THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN FILED.

AND IT IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING VERIFIED.

ITS CURRENT PERCENTAGE IS 19.8, 8%.

THIS CONCLUDES MY SUMMARY FOR THE REZONING CASING OF AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTION.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A LIST OF, UM, NO, WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE, UH, IN LINE TO SPEAK FOR THE SIGNUP, BUT WE HAVE A LIST SPEAKING OPPOSED TO THE ITEM.

WE'LL START WITH, UH, CHRISTOPHER.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE.

YES, MIKE KING, ARE YOU THERE? THANK YOU.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT HERE IS THE 25 FOOT BUFFER THAT ALREADY EXISTS ON THE NORTH AND WEST SIDES OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THIS IS MICHAEL SPEAKING FOR THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

UM, I'LL CAN WE GO TO SLIDE TWO PLEASE? SO, UM, SOME OF THIS IS ALREADY COVERED BY THE CITY STAFF, UH, WHEN YOU ARE REQUESTING NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE MIXED USE, AND THIS IS TO CONVERT A FORMER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE AND ADD IT TO THE APP, LOOKING AT THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE NORTH THAT HE USES OR, UM, TWO OFFICES.

AND OUR PLAN IS TO CONNECT THESE TWO PROPERTIES VIA AN ADA FESTIVAL WALKWAY, JUST TO ORIENT YOU ON THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE PROPERTY LOCATION MAP.

AND WE ARE JUST SOUTH EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF BY 35 FRONTAGE ROAD AND EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE, UH, AND BACKING UP TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA TO THE SOUTH.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING, WHICH I KNOW YOU ALREADY HAVE, BUT IT'S G RMU ON THE WEST AND EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR TO THE NORTH WITH SINGLE FAMILY, SOUTH AND EAST ON SLIDE FIVE, YOU HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATIONS IN THE AREA.

AND SYRIA IS REALLY CHARACTERIZED BY A LOT OF OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE DESIGNATIONS, AS WELL AS SOME SINGLE FAMILY, MORE TO THE INTERIOR.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE WOULD HELP PROVIDE A STEP DOWN IN THE PERMITTED USES IN THIS AREA.

AND IT WOULD ALSO HELP CONNECT THIS PROPERTY TO THE PROPERTY THAT FRONTS ON RIVERSIDE.

AND BY DOING THAT, IT WILL INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF THAT PROPERTY TO HOUSE.

EMPLOYEES WOULD THEN HAVE ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSIT.

I THINK THE FUTURE METRO RAIL LINE EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE SIX.

THIS IS JUST TO ILLUSTRATE THE CONFIGURATION OF THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND WEST AS WELL AS HOW THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT AN ISOLATED ISLAND TO ITSELF.

UH, BUT IT'S CONTIGUOUS SOME, TWO SIDES WITH PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY COMMERCIALLY ZONED AND, AND I'LL GO INTO THIS MORE DETAILED LATER.

BUT,

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UH, AND IT ALSO EXTENDS ALL THE WAY ON THE SIDE OUTSIDE OF, UM, THE APPLICANT'S EXISTING COMMERCIAL OFFICE PROPERTY.

AND, UH, THAT BUFFER REQUIRES, UM, VEGETATION AND REQUIRES LANDSCAPING AND TREES, AND IT ALSO PROHIBITS CONSTRUCTION IN THAT AREA.

AND SO THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR, FOR BLOCKING ACCESS, UM, THROUGH MANLINESS ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE A VIEW OF THE PROPERTY, UM, FROM MANLOVE STREET.

AND THEN ON SLIDE EIGHT, YOU CAN SEE ANOTHER VIEW OF THE FRONT WITH THE HERITAGE OF TREE.

AND I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO THOSE 25 ARMET, THIS TREE WOULD FURTHER RESTRICT ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY.

HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS NOT RUNNING ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME.

UH, HE HAS LONG NEEDED ADDITIONAL OFFICE SPACE FOR HIS EMPLOYEES AND IS THE HOUSE HAS BEEN SITTING UNUSED.

AND SO THE GOAL IS TO REHABILITATE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND PUT IT TO GOOD USE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHAT THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.

IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THE OAK TREES ALONG THE CENTER LINE AND VEGETATION, UH, THAT KIND OF PROVIDES A NATURAL BUFFER BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE NEAREST ACCESS THREE PROPERTY.

THE NEXT SLIDE SLIDE 10 SHOWS THE VIEW OF THE NEAREST SF THREE PROPERTY TO THE EAST.

SO IT'S SET BACK QUITE A WAYS FROM THIS STRUCTURE ON SLIDE 11.

UM, THIS IS JUST TO POINT OUT THE APPLICANT'S EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT FRONT ON RIVERSIDE THAT THIS PROPERTY WOULD BECOME A PART OF.

UM, THE REST IS, IS ONE OF THE OFFICERS AND THE OTHER ONE ON THE RIGHT.

AND ON SLIDE 12, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE BUILDING ON THE RIGHT THAT, THAT FRONT ON RIVERSIDE SLIDE 13, UM, SHOWS, UM, PART OF THE LANDSCAPE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND OUR PLAN IS TO ADDRESS WHAT ARE THE NEIGHBORS, CHIEF CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING AND, UH, VEHICULAR TRAFFIC BY CONSTRUCTING A FIVE OR SIX FOOT TALL, UH, STONE AND METAL WALL ALONG THE FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY.

I WHAT'S CURRENTLY THE, THE FRONT, WHICH WILL BECOME THE BACK ESSENTIALLY OF THE STRUCTURE.

AND WE'RE DOING THAT TO, TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS.

UM, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO AGREE TO IT BY, UH, UH, PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT OR A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.

AND IF, UM, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS WANTED ACCESS TO CUT THROUGH THE PROPERTY TO GET TO EAST SERVER-SIDE DRIVE, UH, TO THE LEFT OR RAIL LINE, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO INSTALL LIKE EIGHT FOR THEM WITH A CODE, UM, WHATEVER THEY MIGHT FIND THIS UP, THE BULL AND THIS, WOULD IT BE AN ADDITION TO THE 25 FOOT BUFFER THAT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND, UM, THAT THAT WILL BE PROVIDED IN THAT SETBACK AREA.

ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE, AGAIN, THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THEN SLIDE 15 A IS OUR ARCHITECTS RENDERING OF, OF THE FENCE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO PROVIDE SOME PRIVACY FOR THE RESIDENTS, THE RESIDENTS, AND TO ALSO, UH, BUFFER SOUND AND ADD SOME ATTRACTIVE LANDSCAPING TO THIS AREA AND BLOCK ACCESS.

SO REALLY JUST SHIFTING THE ORIENTATION OF THIS PROPERTY FROM MANLOVE A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND MAKING IT PART OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE NORTH ON SLIDE 16, WE HAVE THIS A SUMMARY OF THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, AND I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THOSE, BUT, UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, AND ALSO TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS THAT WOULD APPLY IF THIS PROPERTY WERE TO BE REZONED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

FIRST THING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT WE LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE REALLY ENJOY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, WE GET BACK ON TRACK HERE.

WE HAVE, UM, UH, UH, THE FIRST SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION, UH, WAS CHRISTOPHER COVELLO AND YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES.

I'M TOLD, UH, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE DEVELOP AND, UH, MY LIFE, THEY GRIFFITH AND I LIVE, UH, AT 1500 INGLEWOOD STREET, WHICH IS PART OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH COL-DE-SAC.

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SHOW THE FIRST SLIDE, UH, THAT I MAY BE REFERRING TO, UH, AND IN, IN OUR DISCUSSION HERE,

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AND OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS, AS AUSTIN HAS CHANGED, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED AND JUST BECOME DENSER AND IT'S HAT, AND WE'VE GOTTEN, UH, WE WERE DEVELOPING A FABULOUS COMMUNITY.

WOW.

THE TWO THINGS THAT I WANT YOU TO LEAVE WITH WHEN I TALK FROM THIS, BUT IS TO, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD LIKE IT TO NOT APPROVE THIS AND, AND UNDER THE SAME AS, UH, AS THE STAFF HAS SUGGESTED, BUT ALSO WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTEXT, UH, ABOUT, UH, THIS PROPERTY AND PERHAPS THE MOTIVATION OF, UH, THE APPLICANTS, UH, WANTING TO CHANGE CHANGES, ZONING.

SO THE APPLICANT SAYS THEY WANT TO BUILD A, UH, AN OFFICE BUILDING, ESSENTIALLY A COMMERCIAL BUILDING UNDER THE, UH, UH, UNDER THE NEW ZONING, UH, PROCESS.

AND, UM, WE HAVE LEARNED AND KNOW THAT YOU CAN SHOW A LOT OF NICE RENDERINGS ABOUT WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PLANNING TO DO AND WHATNOT.

BUT WHAT WE REALLY CONCERNED WITH IS NOT WHAT THE APPLICANT WILL DO, BUT WHAT CAN BE DONE ON THIS PROPERTY ONCE THE ZONING IS CHANGED, I KNOW THERE ARE RESTRICTED.

UH, THERE ARE COVENANTS AND PRIVATE AND, UH, AND WHATNOT, BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, AND THOSE, AND BY THE WAY, THOSE, THOSE COVENANTS, UM, THEY'RE, THEY CAN BE A FEMORAL, THINGS CAN CHANGE.

AND, BUT WHAT WILL MOST LIKELY CHANGE IS THE COMMERCIAL NATURE OF THIS? THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE END, THE VERY END OF A NEIGHBORHOOD CALLED THIS HAT.

AND ON THAT COL-DE-SAC ARE 23 HOUSEHOLDS THAT WILL BE EFFECTED.

I KNOW THERE THERE'S A SMALL NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS EFFECTED BY THE 500 FOOT MARK, WHICH OURS IS.

AND ON THE, ON THE, UM, THE DIAGRAM I'VE SHOWN OUR HOUSE IS LOCATED AT NUMBER TWO, UH, IN THE DIAGRAM AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS A DIALOGUE.

UM, UM, NOTICE NUMBER ONE, AND WE HAD TO DO SOME RESEARCH TO FIND OUT WHAT THIS COULD BE.

OF COURSE IT CAN BE A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.

IT COULD BE AN OFFICE THAT IS, UH, THAT IS ACTING AS A SATELLITE OR PAVILION TO, UM, THE APPLICANTS BUILDINGS OR, UH, LARGER BUILDINGS, UH, ON THE LARGER COMMERCIAL LOT NEXT DOOR.

BUT IT COULD ALSO BE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE, OF, OF OUR, OF OUR COMMUNITY, BESIDES BEING A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, WHICH CAN HAVE ARCHITECTS OFFICE, UM, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERING OFFICE, WHATEVER.

UM, IT COULD BE A SMALL PRIVATE SCHOOL.

IT CAN BE AN ART GALLERY OR AN ART STUDIO.

IT CAN BE, IT CAN OFFER COUNSELING SERVICES.

IT CAN HAVE A COMMERCIAL DAYCARE CENTER, NOT A MOM AND POP DAYCARE CENTER, BUT A COMMERCIAL, UH, DAYCARE CENTER.

IT CAN HAVE A BED AND BREAKFAST.

AND DEPENDING ON THE AGE OF THE BUILDING, THAT'S THERE, IT CAN HAVE UP TO 10 ROOMS AND THAT BUILDING IS MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD.

IF IT, IF IT'S USED, IT'S NOT VERY LIKELY, BUT IT ALSO COULD BE A FIRE STATION OR AN AMBULANCE LOCATION OR POLICE A POLICE FACILITY.

AND THEN A LITTLE BIT MORE OMINOUSLY.

AND PERHAPS WITH SOME, UH, UM, CONDITIONS, IT COULD ALSO BE A T A TALL TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER.

NOW WHEN THE APPLICANT CHANGES THIS PROPERTY, AND FOR THE STATED REASON, THERE MAY ALSO BE OTHER REASONS THAT ARE PROBABLY IN MY OPINION, MORE IMPORTANT.

AND THAT IS THAT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY IS ALSO OWNED BY THE APPLICANT.

AND THAT PROPERTY IS FOR A LOCK IS AVAILABLE FOR A LARGER, UH, COMMERCIAL FOR LARGER COMMERCIAL USE.

AND IF YOU LOOK ON MY, ON MY DIAGRAM, YOU'LL NOTICE AN X THERE.

THIS IS A TRICKY PRO UM, UH, PROPERTY TO, TO DEVELOP.

BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IS, IS THAT IT'S KIND OF A BOTTLENECK AT THAT X, WHICH REALLY MAKES THE PROPERTY NOT, UM, AS PRODUCTIVE.

IT CANNOT BE DEVELOPED AS EFFICIENTLY.

NOW, IF THIS PROPERTY BECOMES A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, THE SETBACKS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY DO NOT NEED TO BE THERE.

SO NOW BY, BY PUTTING A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AT THE END OF OUR RESIDENTIAL STREET, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO

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MAKING THE VALUE OF HIS LARGER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, A HIGHER, AND THE APPLICANT.

THE APPLICANT HAS A HISTORY OF DOING THIS, AND YOU'LL SEE WITH THE GREEN LINE THAT HE CHANGED, UM, THE PROPERTIES BEHIND THE GREEN LINE, UH, TO COMMERCIAL AND AT THE COST OF, UM, OF, OF OUR COMMERCIAL ONLINE OF OUR, UM, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

SO I KNOW THE ADMIN SAYS THAT HE WANTS TO USE IT TO MAKE THIS THING, BUT THIS PROPERTY IS FOR SALE.

IT HAS BEEN FOR SALE.

WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE INQUIRED ABOUT IT.

AND I, I SUBMIT THAT THIS PROPERTY IS BEING CHANGED TO MAKE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY HIGHER AND, AND, AND MORE DEVELOPABLE AND NOT IN THE INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, AND I HAVE A SECOND SPEAKER, UH, THE NEXT WEEK WERE TONY HOUSE AND, UH, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES STAR SIX, SEVEN MINUTE.

HELLO.

MY NAME IS TONY HOUSE AND I LIVE ON INGLEWOOD STREET.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

THE ZONING CHANGE WILL MAKE A PERMANENT CHANGE TO THE IRAQ FLUNG TO ADDRESS A TEMPORARY ISSUE, EFFECTING ONE PROPERTY OWNER.

THIS WOULD BE A GRANT, A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE TO AN INDIVIDUAL OWNER, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN SPOT ZONING WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SUCH A CHANGE WILL SET A TERRIBLE PRECEDENT FOR ALL NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREAS IN THE CITY.

APPLICANT HAS AMPLE ROOM TO EXPAND OR RENOVATE THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON HIS COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY, WHICH FRONTS EAST RIVERSIDE ON THE NORTH AND 35 TO THE WEST APPLICANT HAS FAILED TO EXPLAIN WHY HE SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM MAKING THE SAME SACRIFICES.

SO MANY OTHER AUSTIN EMPLOYERS HAVE MADE AND PROVIDE THE EMPLOYEES.

HE WOULD HAVE WORKED OUT OF THE MENTALIST HOUSE WITH THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO WORK FROM HOME APPLICANT'S CHOICE OF NOT USING 1100 MANLOVE AS A RESIDENCE FOR THE 10 YEARS HE HAS OWNED.

IT SHOULD NOT BE USED AS A REASON TO GRANT HIS APPLICATION FROM 1999 THROUGH 2020, OUR HAS BEEN FILLED WITH NEW RESIDENCES JUST ON THE TWO BLOCKS OF INGLEWOOD.

AND MAN LOVE 17 NEW DWELLINGS HAVE BEEN ADDED THAT MAKES 23 DRAWINGS TOTAL ON OUR TWO SHORT STREETS.

OBVIOUSLY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS THRIVING AND IS BEST SUITED FOR RESIDENTIAL ZONING APPLICANTS, OFFICES FRONT ON EAST RIVERSIDE, JUST ONE BLOCK NORTH OF INGLEWOOD, WHATEVER NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES HE WILL BE OFFERING CAN EASILY BE PROVIDED BY HIS OFFICE SETTING A STONE'S THROW AWAY.

FURTHERMORE AT ANGLEWOOD AND MANLOVE ARE NOT COLLECTOR STREET.

APPLICANT'S SUGGESTION OF APPLYING A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OR RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TO THE PROPERTY IS UNACCEPTABLE.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS UNDERSTANDABLY WARY OF RELYING ON THOSE TOOLS DUE TO STATEMENTS MADE BY CITY OFFICIALS AND CITY STAFF DURING THE HEARINGS ON THE NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BASED ON APPLICANT'S PAST RECORD OF VIOLATING CITY CODE AT THIS LOCATION, A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE TO INCUR THE LEGAL FEES AND EXPENSES REQUIRED TO PREPARE AND ENFORCE IT.

OTHER REASONS FOR DENYING THESE APPLICATIONS, THEY CAN CLICK WITH THE IRAQ NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS.

NUMBER ONE GOAL, THEY CONFLICT WITH THE CITY'S OWN ZONING PRINCIPLES AND THEY CONFLICT WITH THE CITY'S INTENT OF SF THREE STONING.

PLEASE DENY APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR REZONING AND NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT.

RESIDENTIAL STREET, AND THE PROPOSED USE WOULD NOT BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE MALCOLM YATES WITH THREE MINUTES, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.

THIS IS MALCOLM YATES.

I AM THE CHAIR OF THE EAST RIVERSIDE OLD TOUR, COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA CONTACT TEAM, THE YUROK CONTACT TEAM AS VOTED TO OPPOSE THIS PLAN AMENDMENT AND ZONING CHANGE FOR THE MANSLAUGHTER PROPERTY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT CONFLICTS WITH THE NUMBER ONE GOAL OF THE IRAQ PLAN, WHICH IS RESERVED THE CHARACTER OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

THIS PROPERTY IS ON A DEAD END

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HE ROCKED CONTACT TEAM REQUESTS THAT THIS PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING CHANGE BE DENIED.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO AUSTIN CITIZENS.

UH, NEXT WE HAVE A RACHEL MCCLURE.

I'M THE LAST SPEAKER WITH THREE MINUTES.

NOT, WELL, I SHOULD REPHRASE THAT.

YOU'RE NOT THE SPEAKER, BUT YOU'RE YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UH, HELLO.

MY NAME IS RACHEL MUCHLER.

UH, GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE HEARING THIS EVENING.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IN THE ROLE, UH, AND SERVING IN THIS ROLE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO REGISTER MY OPPOSITION AGAINST THE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE ZONING REQUESTS FOR 1100 MINIMUM STREETS.

I'M A LONG-TERM RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND DO NOT SUPPORT THE CHANGE TO ALLOW A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, TO BE TRANSFERRED INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS WHY THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

UM, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF US, UM, WHO OPPOSED THIS SO SIMILAR.

SO I APOLOGIZE IF SOME OF MY POINTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN STATED.

UM, ONE, THE LOCATION OF THE SLOT IS PROBLEMATIC FOR THE CURRENT PROJECT AND SUSPICIOUS TO THE PROXIMITY OF HIS OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

SO I IS UP TO HIM AT THE END OF THE DEAD END STREET.

IT'S VERY FAR AWAY FROM ALL THE OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ALIGN ON EAST RIVERSIDE.

UH, LIKE THE BIZARRE, LIKE, UM, THE SEVEN 11.

IT IS CLEARLY INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AT THE ADJACENT, UH, PROPERTY, UM, HIS, HIS COMMERCIAL INSURANCE BUSINESS THAT IS PERFECTLY FINE.

WE SUPPORT HAVING A THRIVING BUSINESS NEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ON A COMMERCIAL STREET.

WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE NEED FOR EXPANDING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, FURTHERMORE, THE BUSINESS HAS SEVERAL PROPERTIES, SEVERAL BUILDINGS ON THIS PROPERTY, OFF EASTERN RIVERSIDE.

SO IT IS NOT EXACTLY CLEAR, UM, WHY IT'S NEEDED TO EXPAND INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THERE'S AMPLE OPPORTUNITY ON SITE.

UM, AND THIS WAY, UM, WE HAVEN'T EXACTLY GOTTEN A STRAIGHT STORY ABOUT THIS SECOND PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THIS HOME FROM HOME TO THE BUSINESS.

UH, THIS, THIS TIME THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS INFORMED THAT THE CHANGE WAS NEEDED IN RESPONSE TO COVID-19 AGAIN, THAT NOW SEEMS IT WASN'T EVEN MENTIONED TONIGHT.

SO THAT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS JUST A RUSE.

UM, SO, UH, WE CLEARLY SAY THIS PROPOSAL, UH, AS A MECHANISM TO EXPAND THE BUSINESS USE OF THE MULTIPLE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE, AGAIN, WE SUPPORT HIS EFFORTS TO MAKE MONEY THE AMERICAN DREAM GO FOR IT, BUT IT, WE ALMOST HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS HOUSE WAS BOUGHT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

UM, SECOND'S A NEIGHBORHOOD.

HE, HIS OFFICES ARE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD NEED FOR THIS OFFICE.

THIS IS NOT A COMPATIBLE USE FOR THE RESIDENTS, AS WAS MENTIONED UP THE HILL.

THERE WAS NO PARKING AGAIN IN ONE OF OUR KEY, OUR MEETINGS WITH, UH, THE REPRESENTATIVES AS THE OWNER.

AND WE WERE TOLD, OH, NO, WE DON'T NEED ANY PARKING ON THE STREET.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BOTHER YOU AT ALL, BUT THAT IS NOTHING THEY CAN ENFORCE ONCE THEY SELL.

WHICH AGAIN, IT'S BEEN NOTED THAT THIS COMPANY HAS BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

AGAIN, TO SUGGEST THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SUGGEST TO US THAT WE NEED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE IS LAUGHABLE.

UM, AS AGAIN, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A HISTORY WITH THIS CENTER.

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT THE OWNER HAS MADE A PETITION TO CHANGE THIS LOVELY HOME WITH AN INFANCY FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.

IT'S NOT REASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT HE'S NOT DECIDED TO HELP FURTHER HIS CASE TO DEVELOP HIS OTHER PROPERTIES MIDDLE CLASS.

THAT'S YOUR FINAL THOUGHT YOU'RE OUT OF TIME.

UM, OKAY.

UM, WILLIAM, AND JUST RESPECTFULLY HOW TO PLAY.

YOU CAN TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT.

BYE-BYE OKAY, BYE.

NEXT DOOR TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

UH, WE HAVE ONE LAST SPEAKER WITH ONE MINUTE.

UH, JEFF TAYLOR STAR SIX ON MEET TAYLOR.

UM, YES, THIS IS JEFF TAYLOR.

I LIVE AT 1102 MEN LOVE DIRECTLY

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UM, I HAD A THREE MINUTE SPEECH.

I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ONE OF THE THREE MINUTES TRIGGERS.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF POINTS.

NUMBER ONE, A VERY GOOD POINT WAS MADE THAT TONIGHT.

THE APPLICANT MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THE GOAL OF THIS REZONING IS TO MOVE THIS PROPERTY OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND INTO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WE OWN.

THE REZONING OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTY O IS NOT APPROPRIATE, AND IT DOES NOT MEET ANY CLEAR ZONING PRINCIPLES.

IT DOES NOT PROVIDE A NEIGHBORHOOD NEED.

THE OVERFLOW OF HIS COMMERCIAL BUSINESS IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD USE TO LOOK AT HIS PRETTY PICTURES IS AN AFFRONT BECAUSE 12 YEARS AGO, WHEN HE OBSERVED HIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND SHOWED THE PRETTY PICTURES THAT HE WAS GOING TO DO, WE HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN ANYTHING THAT HE SAYS HE WILL DO BECAUSE HE HAS NOT DONE IT FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS.

THIS IS NOT, THIS IS AS A GRANT OF A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE TO A COMMERCIAL OFFICE.

WHO'S CLEARLY, AND AS FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS, ITS STATED PURPOSE IS THAT IT IS A TEMPORARY OCCUPANT OF THAT LAND UNTIL THEY CAN SELL IT AS A COMMERCIAL MIXED USE PROPERTY.

IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO TAKE OUT THIS BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY FROM AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN HERE SINCE THE 1940S AND OVER THE PAST 12 YEARS, WHEN THIS APPLICANT HAS ALLOWED HIS PROPERTIES TO DECAY AND ROT AND TO, AND TO JUST BE FILLED WITH FILTH BELOW MY PROPERTY.

WELL, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BUILT UP IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR TAYLOR.

I CAN ONLY GIVE YOU ONE MINUTE.

I GAVE YOU A LITTLE EXTRA TIME, BUT WE ARE, YOU ARE OUT OF TIME, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS.

UM, SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR SPEAKERS AND UP POSITION.

UM, I GUESS AT THIS TIME, UH, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE.

OH, WE HAVE THE, UH, AFRICANS FOR REBUTTAL.

UH, PLEASE, IF YOU'RE THERE.

EXIST, NOT JUST IN SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND I'M FROM THE REQUIRED WALL, THE SOUND BUFFER THAT IT WOULD PROVIDE THE LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD GO WITH IT.

JACKIE CHAIR.

THIS IS MIKE THINKING AGAIN.

UM, AND GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS.

FIRST OF ALL, I THINK WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS NO SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY CAN EVER BECOME AN OFFICE USE, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT TRUE.

AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT AND YES, I CAN SEE SOME VALID CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING OR TRAFFIC, BUT THOSE ARE ALL ADDRESSED BY THE LAW.

AND THEY SAID THAT THAT CANNOT BE ENFORCED WELL, THAT'S ACTUALLY FALSE.

IT CAN BE ENFORCED JUST LIKE A PUBLIC DISTRICT, THIS COVENANT, WHICH IS WHAT ALREADY EXISTS TO PROVIDE THE 25 FOOT BUFFER THAT THEY HAVE THAT IS NOT, DOES NOT NEED TO BE ENFORCED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S ALREADY ENFORCEABLE AND NO CODE WHERE YOU RIGHT.

CAN DO AWAY WITH A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT IS NOT LAWFUL.

AND SECOND OF ALL, WHAT YOU DID DEVELOP UNDER AND THOSE ZONING WOULD ACTUALLY BE MUCH LESS AND SCALE THEN LIKE YOU COULD BUILD UNDER THE SF THREE ZONING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE 25 FOOT SITES THAT BACK, WHICH HAS ONLY FIVE FEET CURRENTLY.

YOU ALSO HAVE THE, UH, REDUCTION AND BUILDING COVER FROM 40% TO 35%.

THERE ALSO BE A MAXIMUM FAR AT 0.35.

SO ONE WHICH MEANS THAT IF YOU BUILT THE ENTIRE 35 FOOT BUILDABLE AREA, YOU COULD ONLY DO A ONE FLOOR BUILDING AND UNDER COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, YOU CAN ONLY BUILD THE TWO STORIES IN 30 FEET.

WHEREAS CURRENTLY IT'S 35 SEATS.

NO, AS FAR AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CLAIMS ABOUT WHAT ARE THE MOTIVATIONS OF THIS OWNER? UM, I THINK THERE WAS EVEN ONE CLIENT THAT HE WAS WANTING TO OPEN A NIGHTCLUB, WHICH WAS, I MEAN, IF HE EVER MET HIM IS PRETTY RIDICULOUS.

I MEAN, HE IS NOT THE KIND OF PERSON AND TO, TO DENY THE REQUEST IS JUST GOING TO MEAN THAT YOU HAVE A FORMER RESONANCE THAT'S SITTING IN, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO BE UNDER UTILIZED, WHEREAS IT COULD BE ORIENTED AND MADE PART OF A REALLY VIBRANT COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR WHILE STILL PROVIDING A LOT OF PROTECTIONS FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

IN FACT, THEY WOULD HAVE MORE PROTECTIONS AND CURRENTLY

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AND SO I JUST THINK A LOT OF THESE CONCERNS ARE REALLY UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT COMPLETELY UNFOUNDED AND THEY CAN ALL BE ADDRESSED.

UM, AND SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I'LL STAY ON THE LINE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UM, WITH THAT, UH, WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I SEE COMMISSIONER SHEA SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HEMPEL LET'S GO AND VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, SHOW ME YOUR GREEN.

I'VE GOT ALMOST SET.

UH, WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE.

AND, UH, THOSE, UH, AGAINST CLOSING THE PUBLIC, HEARING THOSE ABSTAINING FROM MR. CONLEY.

I MISSED, DID I MISS YOUR GREEN? I VOTE.

I VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

HOW WAS WAITING? I WAS LOOKING AT YOU THERE WONDERING WHAT WAS GOING ON.

UH, OKAY.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GO AND MOVE INTO OUR ROUND ROBIN, UH, WHO WANTS TO ASK THE FIRST QUESTION? UH, COMMISSIONER HEMPEL THEN FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

UM, I'M NOT SURE YOU, THIS IS FOR MAYBE FOR STAFF.

UM, BUT IF THE OFFICE ZONING WAS TO BE GRANTED, UM, I KNOW IT'S LIMITED TO TWO STORIES AND UNDERGROUND PARKING.

UM, WOULD THERE BE ACCESS TO MAN LOVE THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IF, UM, THEY BUILD THE, THERE WAS A NEW OWNER AND THEY WANTED TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT WAS ALLOWED UNDER THE DISEASES.

UM, BECAUSE, UH, I THINK LIKE A LOT AND IT IS NOT OFFICIALLY JOINED WITH THE PROPERTY NORTH OF IT.

UH, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS TO MANLOVE.

UM, I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK ON, YOU KNOW, THE RULES FOR BUILDING A FENCE OR A WALL AS THE APPLICANT SUGGESTED, BUT AS FAR AS A, UM, A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OR A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT ACCESS TO MAN LOVE SHEET WOULD HAVE TO REMAIN BECAUSE IT IS, UH, ATTACHED AND THAT'S THE ONLY STREET THAT IT IS ACCESSIBLE TO.

COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, UM, THE APPLICANT OR MAYBE STAFF, COULD YOU GUYS PUT UP THE PICTURES? I'M SORRY.

I HAD TO WALK MY DOG.

I THINK SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED PICTURES.

I JUST WANTED TO GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER IDEA OF THAT ONE ASPECT WITH THE RENDERINGS OR HAVE THE BILL OF OKAY.

IT WAS JUST THESE PICTURES UNDERSTOOD.

ACTUALLY, THIS IS PRETTY HELPFUL AS WELL.

SO, UM, SO COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, THERE WAS A RENDERING, UH, FROM THE APPLICANT, UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.

OKAY, GREAT.

MAYBE STAFF'S ON THEIR WAY TO GET MET AND THAT'S THE 25, BUT COMPATIBILITY IT OKAY.

SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE PROBABLY DEALING WITH ON THE SITE IS SO MUCH AREA TO THAT BY COMPATIBILITY.

WERE THOSE OKAY.

SO I DID SEE THOSE, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A RENDERING OF THE BUILDING.

I'M JUST NOT UP TO SPEED ON EXACTLY WHAT IS IN THAT, UM, BUFFERS.

SO, UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, IS THERE ANY WAY I THINK, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE WITH LIKE LITTLE WINDOWS BEHIND BURNET BACK IN THE DAY, BUT IS THERE A WAY TO ENSURE THAT APPLICANT'S PROMISES OF, YOU KNOW, FENCING AND SCREAMING AND VEGETATION COULD MAKE IT INTO THE ZONING? HI, THIS IS KATE CLARK.

AGAIN.

I APOLOGIZE.

I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT CAN GO INTO AN ORDINANCE, BUT IF YOU GIVE ME A FEW MINUTES, I CAN TRY AND RESEARCH THAT AND CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU.

UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, THE COMPATIBILITY, IF THE COMPATIBILITY IS TRIGGERED BY USE AND ZONING.

SO IF THE APPLICANT, UM, WAS, IF THE PROPERTY WAS TO BE REZONED TO N O AND IT WAS CONVERTED TO AN OFFICE, THEN, LIKE YOU SAID, THERE WOULD BE A COMPATIBILITY SETBACK.

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UH, THIRD QUESTION COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER.

UH, SO THIS IS ALSO A QUESTION FOR MS. CLARK AND I KNOW SHE'S SORT OF RESEARCHING, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE IN A SIMILAR VEIN.

UM, IT'S SORT OF TWO PARTS, FIRST OF ALL, WOULD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION CHANGE IF THE APPLICANT WERE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT A WALL OR A FENCE THAT PREVENTED VEHICLE, THE GRASS FROM MANLOVE THAT JUST PREVENTED THAT PROPERTY FROM USING MANLOVE AS A, UH, FOR ACCESS AND, AND I, I GUESS THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO CREATE, AND YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED THIS ALREADY.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT AND PREVENT THE USE OF MEN AND LOVE AS, AS THE ACCESS POINT FOR, UM, FOR THE PROPERTY? UM, WE CANNOT, UM, WE CANNOT PROHIBIT ACCESS THROUGH THE UNCONDITIONAL OVERLAY OR THROUGH A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.

WELL, A PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WHILE MAN LOVE IS THE ONLY STREET THAT THIS LINE IS ACCESSIBLE TO.

UM, HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THEY WERE TO COMBINE IT WITH A LOT AND RE SUBDIVIDED THE NORTH OF IT, AND THEN THAT BECAME A, AN, A SINGLE LOT, AND THEY HAD ACCESS TO EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

THEN WE COULD REMOVE THAT ACCESS, BUT AS IT STANDS BEING A LEGAL LOT WITH ONLY ACCESS TO ONE STREET, WE CAN'T RESTRICT A PROHIBIT THAT, UM, I WOULD HAVE TO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD CHANGE IF A WALL WAS BUILT ONLY BECAUSE THE WALKING OFF TO BE REMOVED AT A LATER POINT.

AND SO BASING OUR DONING RECOMMENDATIONS, WE LOOK AT WHAT CAN BE BUILT AND HOW THE PROPERTY CAN BE USED IN THE FUTURE AS, AND IN ADDITION TO NOW, AND NOT JUST WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED CURRENTLY.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH COMMISSIONER SHEA? I JUST HAVE A REAL QUICK QUESTION.

I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE SOME THINGS, BUT WHAT, WHAT'S THE ELEVATION CHANGE FROM? UM, THIS LOT DOWN TO THE FRONTAGE OF RIVERSIDE IS THAT FOR THE APPLICANT, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

IT'S JUST DEAD.

SO YEAH, THIS IS MICAH.

UM, I CAN ANSWER THAT REALLY QUICKLY.

SO I THINK IT'S ABOUT 40 FEET.

IT'S A PRETTY STEEP CLIFF DOWN TO THE FURNITURE ROAD.

AND, UM, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, TEXTILE APPROVAL WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR ANY ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, TO THE WEST.

UM, BUT I THINK ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT THE PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, WHICH, UM, THE CITY WILL ENFORCE, UH, PROHIBITS ANY ACCESS FROM THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH OR WEST TO MANLOVE STREET.

SO YES, WE CAN ALSO DO THINGS TO ADDRESS ACCESS FROM THIS PROPERTY TO VAN LOVE, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THAT COULD EVER CONNECT THROUGH TO RIVERSIDE OR, OR THE FRONTAGE ROAD, BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY RESTRICTED.

SO WITH THE 40 FOOT ELEVATION CHANGE, I MEAN THE WAY THAT, I MEAN, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO TIE THESE BUILDINGS TOGETHER.

CAUSE I MEAN, YOU HAVE FOUR STORIES OF DIFFERENCE, UM, BEFORE YOU GET TO THE, YOU KNOW, FROM ONE ELEVATION TO THE BASE OF THE OTHER ELEVATION, RIGHT.

AND SOMEHOW TYING IT TOGETHER.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M TRYING TO ENVISION.

YEAH, GOOD QUESTION.

I'LL OBVIOUSLY ANSWER THAT.

SO I SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED A SCHEMATIC TO SHOW THAT, BUT, UM, THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF THE OFFICE STRUCTURE IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF US IS ALREADY CONNECTED TO THIS, THE STRUCTURE THAT'S ON OUR PROPERTY, ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, BY A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY.

UM, IT'S NOT A HUGE DROP-OFF FROM THIS STRUCTURE TO THE OBSTRUCTION, TO THE NORTH.

UM, IT, THAT SLOW DOWN SLIGHTLY.

UM, BUT THAT PATHWAY, IF APPROVED, WE WOULD JUST REPLACED THAT WITH AN ASSESSABLE WALKWAY.

SO YOU WOULD BE COMING IN LIKE 40 STORIES ABOVE, RIGHT? I MEAN, CAUSE YOU'RE TELLING ME IT'S A 40 FOOT ELEVATION.

SO THE 40 FOOT DROP-OFF IS, IS

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DOWN FROM THE PROPERTY.

I'M THE WEST OF RIVERSIDE.

SO THAT, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, IT'S THE FURNITURE ROAD DIVE FORTY-FIVE FURNITURE ROAD.

THERE'S NO CONNECTIVITY BEING PROPOSED THAT DIRECTION.

HOW ABOUT TOO? BUT THAT'S IN FURNITURE.

WHAT ABOUT RIVERSIDE? YEAH.

SO IT'S A RIVERSIDE IT'S IT IS, UM, IT IS NOT THAT STEEP OF A GRADE.

SO BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.

SO MAYBE 30 FEET.

I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THAT MUCH.

UH, COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS.

CAUSE YOUR CAR STILL HAS TO MAKE THE TURN ALL THE WAY AROUND.

SO 35 FEET, I MEAN, NOT AS MUCH, BUT IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THREE STORIES.

UM, I MEAN YOU, YOU, THAT SLOPES UP A WAYS FROM, I MEAN YOU HAVE A LOT OF DISTANCE FROM SLOPE UP FROM THE STREET UP TO THE PROPERTY.

IT'S NOT AS LIKE ONCE YOU GET UP THE HILL A LITTLE BIT, IT'S NOT AS SWEET.

GREAT.

NOW YOU CAN EASILY WALK, UM, BETWEEN THE TWO SITES AND PEOPLE DO.

WE'RE UP TO SLOT NUMBER FIVE.

COMMISSIONERS ARE THE CHAIR AND I HAD TO PUT ON HEADPHONES IF HE'S UP KNOWING, UM, SOUND ISSUES.

UM, I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF AND STAFF HEALTH.

WHAT SIGNS OF RESIDENTIAL ARE ALLOWED FOR THE BASE GOING UP AND OH, WE DOING, UM, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER, YOU WERE CUTTING OUT A LITTLE BIT ON MY END.

YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USES ALLOWED AND DEBASED ZONE OF AN O CORRECT.

AND YES, IF WE DID ANYONE'S OPPOSITES, SO NON VIEW WHAT RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE ALIVE.

UM, I KNOW THAT IN THE END, THE BED AND BREAKFAST IS ALLOWED AND I'M JUST VERIFYING ALL OF THE, THE MEU, UM, RESIDENTIAL PIECES.

I KNOW THERE'S THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY WOOD AND MULTIFAMILY.

I'M JUST NOT SURE.

UM, HOW FAR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MULTIFAMILY COULD GO.

IF YOU WANT, I CAN COME BACK TO YOU AND YOU CAN HELP ME ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

UM, WOULD LET YOU, FOR SOMEONE ELSE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN BE DALLAS.

WHAT USES THAT ARE ALLOWED, GRADUATED, AND KNOW ARE UNACCEPTABLE TO THEM.

SO, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.

WOULD THAT BE, UH, CHRISTOPHER DEVELO OR MR. YANG OR MR. YATES STAR SETS A NEED? UM, THIS IS JEFF TAYLOR, THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR TO THIS PROPERTY.

NONE OF THE, NONE OF THE USES UNDER ENO ARE PARTICULARLY DISTURBING IF THEY WERE BEING USED BY A RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT ALL HE'S DOING IS USING THE ZONING TO TAKE THIS PROPERTY OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO IT WON'T BE ANY USE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ANY OF THOSE USES NONE, NOTHING.

HE HAS NO PLANS THAT WILL MAKE IT OF ANY USE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

HE IS TAKING THE PROPERTY OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

LET ME CIRCLE BACK WITH STAFF ON MY ORIGINAL QUESTION.

UM, I HAVE ACTUALLY ANSWERS FOR BOTH BOOK COMMISSIONERS, UM, WITH THIS QUESTION, UM, I DOUBLE-CHECK ALL MY ALL MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS BE ALLOWED IN THE MEU.

UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, UH, WE CAN DO VEGETATED STRIPS AND WALLS AND AS A PART OF THE WASN'T IN SEO, WE WOULD JUST NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK AND REVIEW WITH LAW ON THE LANGUAGE.

UM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE CAN'T SPECIFICALLY PROHIBIT ACCESS TO MANLOVE STREET, UM, WITH THE THEO.

AND THEN, SORRY, JUST TO RECONFIRM, YOU'RE SAYING THAT ALL TYPES OF MULTI-FAMILY WOULD BE ALONE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

ALL MULTI, ALL MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS KIND OF SYNTHESIZE IT.

GANG, CAN YOU PLEASE CLARIFY, WHAT IS THE INDENT FOR THE SITE? WHAT IS THE APPLICANT WANTING TO USE IT FOR THE COMMISSIONER? YES.

AND THEN IN MY REMAINING TIME AT A QUESTION FOR ADOPTER, MR.

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UM, SO THE, THE INTENTION IS TO REHABILITATE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND TO USE IT.

AND I NOTICED SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS SAID, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU JUST BUILD MORE STRUCTURES? UM, THAT'S NOT A GOOD USE OF THE EXISTING RESOURCES.

AND, UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST OF WHAT WE HAVE.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

UM, OH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IN TERMS OF USES THAT THE NEIGHBORS MIGHT FIND CONCERNING, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AGREEING TO PROHIBIT SOME USES DURING, THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL OVER THEIR PROCESS.

UM, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AT THE SORT OF STOP.

BUT WE ARE OPEN TO TALKING ABOUT THAT IF WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT IS DEFINITELY GOOD TO KNOW.

AND IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY, THE IDEA IS REALLY USE THE OFFICE AND ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE USE FOR THIS SPACE.

IS THAT YES? CORRECT.

AND THEN JUST TO RECONFIRM, THEY'RE TELLING US THAT YOUR CLINIC RESTRICTIVE GOVERNANCE WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY ACCESS ON, DO ANY OF THE COMMERCIAL SITES NORTH OR WEST OF THIS CURRENT SITE ITSELF, CORRECT.

THAT'S THE CURRENT LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

SO UNDER THAT RESTRICTED COVENANT, ANY, UM, TRAFFIC THAT IS ON MANLOVE WOULD ONLY BE FOR THIS ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE USE ITSELF.

CORRECT.

AND WE WANT TO EVEN TAKE THAT AWAY AND PUT THE PARKING ON THE EXISTING PARKING TO THE NORTH.

SO IT'S PARKING AND TRAFFIC.

UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

UH, I DON'T SEE ANY, UM, WITH, UH, KIND OF IN THE ROUND ROBIN, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? NOPE.

I SAW COMMISSIONER SHAY, GO AHEAD.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT, UH, THE STAFF, WHICH IS TO, WHICH IS THAT, UH, NOT TO SUPPORT WHAT THE APPLICANT IS.

ONE THING.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR STEP RECOMMENDATIONS? OKAY.

UH, ESPECIALLY ON THIS PLAY-DOH DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? COMMISSIONER SHADE CHAIR? I HAVE A, I HAVE A SUBSTITUTE.

I SAY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE WITH THE, UH, THE APPLICANTS REQUESTS.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION? I AM NOT SEEING ANY SECONDS FOR THAT COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

SO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SHAY, WHICH IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

UH, I DON'T THINK WE GOT A SECOND.

DID WE GOT A COMMISSIONER? IS, ARE YOU SECONDING THAT MOTION? WAIT, HANG ON.

I THINK HARMON WAS THE SECOND.

UH, I APOLOGIZE.

DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO WRITE THAT DOWN BEFORE WE GOT INTO SUBSTITUTIONS.

ALRIGHT.

SECOND FOR ME THAT I AM MAKING A SUBSTITUTE.

SO I'M HEARING A COMMISSIONER ZAHRA, YOU'RE RAISING YOUR HAND TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

UM, MY SUBSTITUTE IS TO BRING THIS BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING, ESSENTIALLY A POSTPONEMENT.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE APPLICANT IS OPEN TO WORKING ON SOME SORT OF CONDITIONAL EARLY.

I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS HAS BEEN WHAT TYPE OF USERS WOULD WE USE? I WOULD LIKE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT TO WORK TOGETHER TO ESSENTIALLY FIGURE OUT IF THERE WAS A SEAL THAT WOULD MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, EXCEPT TO USE THE PEOPLE HARDER.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY REALLY WANT TO RESTRICTED USE, UH, FOR THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WILL WORK AND DO.

AND I THINK WE ALSO, LIKE THE OTHER MAIN ISSUE THAT WE WERE HEARING WAS THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE ACCESSED TO THE COMMERCIAL SITES NORTH AND WEST.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE.

SO SEEING THAT I'M MAKING A MOTION FOR A DELAY AND A GUM AND POSTPONE IT, ESSENTIALLY, YOU HAVE TWO WEEKS TO HEAR THIS AGAIN, AND HOPEFULLY HAVE A CEO THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN WORK ON SECOND.

HAS, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON HIS MOTION VERSUS MAKE THE MOTION, HE GOT TO SPEAK QUITE A BIT ABOUT IT.

UM, UM, CAN I MENTION, SO, UM, SO IT SEEMS LIKE COMMISSIONER

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UM, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO SAY A WORD.

UH, YES, I GUESS WE HAVE TO TAKE THOSE ONE AT A TIME THOUGH, AND VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTION THOUGH.

I'VE BEEN CAUGHT IN THE SAME SITUATIONS.

UH, I AGREE, BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THAT SECOND VERSUS HIM SPEAKING TO IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM THAT OPPORTUNITY, YOU SHOULD BE GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, EVEN TO, UM, THE OTHERS.

MY APOLOGIES.

THAT'S MY MISTAKE.

SO, OKAY.

SO LET ME DO THIS, UH, UM, UH, I'M GOING TO THAT SAYS TIME THEN.

SO IT'S A MAIN MOTION MAKER HE'S SPOKEN, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO, THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, ONE OF THE SLOTS FOR THE SUBSTITUTE.

SO, UM, AND THIS WAS, I'M SORRY, HIS SECOND, THAT THIS ONE, IT WAS COMMISSIONING ANDERSON, UH, FOR POSTPONEMENT.

SO PRIMARY, UH, ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST, UH, COMMISSIONER SHADE? YEAH, I'LL SPEAK AGAIN.

IT'S UM, I MEAN, FOR ME, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL LIKE AS A PLANNING COMMISSION, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT THE BIG OVERALL OF HOW EVERYTHING FITS TOGETHER AND CONNECTIVITY, BIG CONVERSATION AS WE GO INTO CODELESS CONNECTIVITY.

AND THE ONLY WAY IN TO GET TO THIS COMMERCIAL SITE LEGALLY IS FROM GOING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD, GOING TO THE DEAD END OF IT.

AND REALLY AT THE VERY BACK END OF THE NEIGHBORS, NOT A PLACE YOU PUT IN COMMERCIAL, I DON'T CARE WHAT, WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD PLANNING.

SO WE LOOK AT IT FROM THAT POINT.

I'M LIKE, I DON'T THINK THIS IS, I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A NO GO.

AND THEN WHEN I EVEN THINK ABOUT THE WHOLE CONNECTION BETWEEN THIS, AND IT'S LIKE, OH, WE WANT TO USE IT WITH THE RIVERSIDE PROPERTY, BUT WITH THE ELEVATION CHANGE IT DOESN'T, I MEAN, THERE'S DEFINITELY A DISCONNECT.

IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A FLAT LOT AND IT'S GOING TO BE COMPART OF IT.

IT SEEMS VERY FORCED.

IT IS LIKE VERY, VERY MUCH SPOT ZONING RIGHT INTO IT.

EVEN THE WAY THAT WE HAVE TO CARVE IT OUT AND PUT A WALL UP TO IT, SAY IT'S NOT PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN REALLY YOU DRIVE UP, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS BIG OLD WALL CARVING IT OUT.

SO, UM, TO ME, I'VE ALREADY KIND OF MY MIND PLANNING WISE.

I, I, I CAN'T GET IT TO WORK IN MY HEAD, SO I'M GOING TO BE BUMPING AGAINST THE, UM, THE POSTPONEMENT.

UH, REMEMBER W LET'S SPEAK FOR, UH, FOR MR. ANDERSON.

I WAS SENSING THAT THE, THAT WAS HEARING SOME OF THE SAME THINGS THE COMMISSIONERS ARE SAYING, BUT BEFORE WE GO DOWN THIS ROUTE, I THINK IT MIGHT BE REAL GOOD JUST TO CHECK IN WITH THE APPLICANT REAL QUICK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING DOWN A BAD TRAIL HERE.

THE APPLICANT IS STILL ON.

DO YOU MIND WEIGHING IN IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH? YES.

COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

UM, THIS IS MIKE .

UM, I SAID WE ARE OPEN TO TALKING ABOUT PROHIBITING USES, BUT THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE ALREADY SOLVED, UNFORTUNATELY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS SAID THERE, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MOST OF THE USES, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN GET TO THERE.

UM, AND, AND, AND BASED ON OUR PRIOR DISCUSSIONS THAT THEY, I DON'T THINK WE CAN NEVER FIND, I THINK WE GOT AN ANSWER TO THAT.

SO AS, UH, FINISHES, ARE YOU STILL ON A CONTINUE? I THINK HEARING THAT I WILL WITHDRAW MY MOTION THEN.

SO WE'RE BACK TO BACK TO THE MAIN MOTION TO SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

UH, WE, UH, BY COMMISSIONER SHAY SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER YANAS POLITO, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER SHADE, UH, PLEASE, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? OKAY.

SO I SPOKE A LITTLE BIT TO IT, BUT AGAIN, JUST TO KIND OF RECAP, UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW PLANNING IS DONE, AND WE LOOK AT THE CONNECTIVITY, UM, FROM COMMERCIAL STREETS COMING IN AND RESIDENTIAL, AND WHERE YOU PUT THE COMMERCIAL, IT'S USUALLY NOT WHEN THE VERY, VERY BACK OF A RESIDENTIAL AND I GET IT.

UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ZONING PATTERNS OF LIKE, WHAT'S AROUND IT THAT, OH, IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THIS COMMERCIAL, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE THE BACK END PART OF A RESIDENCE.

AND THAT PART IS ALSO, THERE'S A BIG ELEVATION CHANGE.

PLUS IT'S A, COL-DE-SAC COOL, THE SEXY, ONE OF THOSE PLACES TO HAVE A HOME, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE RESIDENTS.

AND THAT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE BEST SPOTS.

IT MIGHT EVEN HAVE THE CITY.

SO I, I SEE IT AS, AS, AS DISRUPTIVE TO, YOU KNOW, PLANNING PRINCIPLES OF IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE IDEA OF DOING THE COMMERCIAL IS ONE THING, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME REQUIRING OF THE AREA LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, MORE DENSITY OF RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, BUT IT'S A LARGER CONVERSATION.

SO THIS IS VERY MUCH OF A CASE OF SPOT ZONING, WHICH I CAN SEE.

DO WE HAVE THE, UH, SPEAKER, UH, AGAINST THE MOTION SPEAKING AGAINST THE MOTION COMMISSIONER ANDERSON?

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SO, UH, I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, YOU KNOW, FROM ABOVE AND THIS WHOLE AREA IN THESE, UM, COMMERCIAL SITES THAT, YOU KNOW, NOTHING HAS EVER HAPPENED TO, THEY JUST SEEM TO SIT AND LINGER YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND THEN TXDOT ALWAYS TREATS ITS CORNER, LIKE TEXTS THAT WOULD TREAT A CORNER NEXT TO AN INTERSTATE.

AND IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST ALWAYS BEEN SUCH A MESS DOWN THERE, ALONG BOTH THE INTERSTATE AND ALONG, UM, EAST RIVERSIDE AND I, A BIG PART OF ME WONDERS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU MADE THIS ENTIRE SITE MORE DEVELOPABLE BY COMBINING THE INSURANCE COMPANY, BY COMBINING THAT LONG SLIVER AND THIS TRACT, AND SUDDENLY REMOVING THAT LONG TENTACLE OF COMPATIBILITY THAT NOW COMES INTO THIS SITE AND THEY WERE ABLE TO ASSEMBLE THEM.

AND THAT WAS PART OF THE DIRECTION I WAS GOING TO GO IN IS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COULD WORK TO ASSEMBLE THEM TO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO MANLOVE.

UM, THEN SUDDENLY YOU CAN HAVE AN ACT, A PRETTY TERRIFIC PROJECT THERE, IF YOU COULD COMBINE ALL THOSE PARCELS TOGETHER.

AND YEAH, IT'S THE LOSS OF A $1 MILLION SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

UM, BUT WHEN COMBINED WITH THESE PROPERTIES DIRECTLY AT THE CORNER OF RIVERSIDE AND INTERSTATE 35, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABOUT TO HAVE THE BLUE LINE GOING THROUGH THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S AMAZING TRANSIT, IT'S AMAZING ACCESS.

AND, YOU KNOW, COULD THIS BE A BETTER USE THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME? THAT'S A MILLION DOLLAR HOME ON A HILL? I BELIEVE SO.

SO MY HOPE IS THAT THERE'S ENOUGH, NO VOTES HERE.

I HONESTLY, IF WE DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE TWO SUBSTITUTES THAT HAVE FAILED, I, I EVEN PUT IN A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR US TO JUST DO A NO RECOMMENDATION, BUT IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A SPLIT VOTE HERE, THAT'LL PROBABLY JUST BE WHAT MOVES FORWARD AND BE A HUNDRED PERCENT OKAY WITH THAT.

AND MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD THEN THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT IT, A BIT MORE MESSAGING TO COUNCIL ABOUT BEING ABLE TO COMBINE THESE LOTS AND NOT LOOKING FOR ACCESS OR, YOU KNOW, ELIMINATING THEIR CURRENT ACCESS ON DEMAND LIVE, WHICH PRETTY MUCH THE STAFF POINTED OUT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IF THEY LOOK TO COMBINE THOSE SLOTS.

UH, WE A THREE FOR TWO MINUTES SPEAKING IN FAVOR, CAN I SPEAK NEUTRAL? UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE NEXT ONE AGAINST, UH, ANY SPEAKING FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER YANAS PALITO.

UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

I'LL BE QUICK.

SO COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER CAN GET IN, BUT I JUST, UH, I THINK THE, THE, THE KEY THING HERE IS THE CUL-DE-SAC.

AND I THINK LOOKING AT THIS SPACE AS THE CROW FLIES IS ONE THING, BUT ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDING THE TOPOGRAPHY AND LOOKING AT INGRESS AND EGRESS, UM, THESE ARE REALLY SIGNIFICANT AND, AND VALID LAND USE CONSIDERATIONS THAT I THINK THE STAFF HAS MADE A GOOD, UM, RECOMMENDATION HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT.

AND ALSO JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN HAS ABSORBED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT, MAYBE MORE THAN ANY OTHER IN MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL AND DIFFERENT KINDS OF USES.

AND SO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING IN THIS, IN THIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS VERY MINIMAL.

AND, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT COMPATIBILITY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING THERE BECAUSE THEY DO PROVIDE A CERTAIN BUFFER IN ECOSYSTEM THAT SUPPORTS A BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE FOR A LOT OF THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTS AS WELL.

UM, SO I THINK THAT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, IT MAKES SENSE NOT TO HAVE, OKAY.

I'M GONNA SAY, I, I, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SHAY'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IDEA THAT WE DON'T WANT TO PUT BUSINESS AT THE END OF A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ANDERSON'S IDEA THAT HAVING THAT SINGLE FAMILY UP AGAINST A VERY SORT OF NARROW WHAT SHOULD BE HIGH INTENSITY, UM, ON ONE OF OUR CORRIDORS ON ONE OF OUR TRANSIT LINES, UM, IS KEEPING THAT FROM MOVING FORWARD.

SO I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT, BUT IT'S NOT THAT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF PHASED DOWN FROM THAT HIGH INTENSITY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THE CONNECTIVITY THAT IT AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE ELEVATION JUST DON'T SUPPORT THAT AS IT IS NOW.

BUT I THINK WE SHOULD PUT SOME MORE EFFORT INTO IT AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE.

A COMMISSIONER, UH, SPEAKING IN FAVOR, UH, MR. SNYDER.

OH, YES, PLEASE GO.

UH, I WAS, UM, REALLY THINKING THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET TO A, A GREAT MAYBE CLUMSY SOLUTION BY ELIMINATING THE ACCESS FROM MANLOVE.

BUT, UM, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT OFFERING THAT UP, BUT I THINK STAFF WAS PRETTY CLEAR THAT THAT'S REALLY NOT POSSIBLE.

UH, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT SOLUTION FOR THIS, THAT WOULD ADDRESS EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS, BUT WE'RE JUST NOT THERE.

AND IF THAT CAN'T BE ADDRESSED, THEN, UH, I'M GONNA SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

A SPEAKER OR A COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST.

WELL, ONE MORE SLOT FOR

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UH, ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND WE HAVE A MOTION TO, FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, BY MR. SHAY, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TOLEDO.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A, VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR.

UH, LET'S SEE YOUR GREEN ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, UH, AND COMMISSIONER CONLEY THAT SIX.

OH, AND THEN THOSE VOTING AGAINST WHO SHALL BE A RED SIX ONE, THOSE NEUTRAL STAIN ONE, TWO, THREE.

SO I HAVE SIX ONE, THREE.

UM, SO THAT MOTION, WE, WELL, HELP ME OUT HERE.

WE DON'T HAVE SEVEN DEWEY.

THAT MOTION DOES NOT PASS.

WE JUST LET GO.

WE, UH, WELL, WE CAN, WE CAN LET IT GO.

OR SOMEBODY HAS ANOTHER MOTION THEY'D LIKE TO PROPOSE.

UH, IT, YEAH, IT DOES FAIL.

THIS ONE DID FAIL A QUICK QUESTION FOR MR. RIVERA.

I, MY ONLY MOTION WOULD BE NO RECOMMENDATION AND IF WE JUST MOVE ON, IT'S THE SAME THING, RIGHT? YEAH, SURE.

COMMISSION IS ON HANDOVER.

THAT IS CORRECT.

I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, MR. ANDERSON, WE, WE CAN LET THIS MOVE ON.

SO I'M HEARING, WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.

WE JUST GO ONTO THE NEXT ITEM.

UH, IS THE ONLY ZONE THAT A LIQUOR STORE CAN OPERATE IN BUSINESSES WITH LIQUOR SALES EXCEEDING 50% IN GROSS SALES RECEIPTS, UH, HAS TO HAVE A CS ONE ZONING.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

UH, AND WE ARE GOING TO, UM,

[Items B7 & B8]

ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP TOGETHER.

AND SO I GUESS START WITH THE STAFF PRESENTATION ON, UM, THE PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE REZONING CASE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT ITEM NUMBER B SEVEN IS NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO TWO 7.01.

TWIN LIQUORS, MATTI REZONING.

THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 26 OH (220) 604-2606, 26 OH EIGHT AND 26, 10 WEST SEVENTH STREET AND SEVEN ZERO ONE SEVEN ZERO THREE SEVEN ZERO ONE AND 703 NEWMAN DRIVE.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL WEST AUSTIN COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA.

THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, SHARON COMMISSION MEMBERS.

I'M MARK RAM, SENIOR PLANNER IN THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND CASE MANAGER FOR CASE 2020 ZERO ZERO TWO FOR THE TWIN LIQUORS MATISE REZONING.

UM, I HAVE A BRIEF, UH, PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING A ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO RECONFIGURE THE TENANT SPACES, UM, USING THE FOOTPRINT ZONING ON TWO TRACKS.

UM, THIS WOULD ALLOW, UM, TWIN LIQUORS TO EXPAND INTO A LARGER SPACE TRACT.

ONE THOUGH WOULD CAUSE 1200, I'M SORRY, 2,285 SQUARE FEET THROUGH REVERT FROM C1 TO CS BASED ZONING.

SO FIRMS THE LIQUORS ZONING BACK TO THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL SERVICES TRACK TWO WOULD PROPOSE MOVING 5,327 SQUARE FEET FROM THE GENERAL CS BASED ZONING TO SEE US ONE FOR THE LIQUOR STORE.

SO THE, UM, NET CHANGE FOR INCREASE OF .

THE LIQUOR STORE ZONING IS 3042 SQUARE FEET.

UM, SO TO REITERATE THOSE ZONING TRACKS OR FOOTPRINTS OF TENANT SPACES, UM, THERE ARE TAKING A SECTION THAT IS CURRENTLY OVER MATISE, REMOVING IT FROM LIQUOR STORES ZONING THERE, UM, TAKING THE SECTION THAT, UH, OF THE HALF THE WEST HOUSE OF THE GOOD WORLD AND CONVERTING THAT TO THE LIQUOR STORE AND ADDING THE CF ONE ZONING,

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SO IT IS THE, UH, IS THIS CONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, SONY MASSAGE? AND SECONDLY, IT'S COMMON FOR RESTAURANTS, BARS, LIQUOR STORES TO SEEK THIS.

SO NAME IT'S COMMON FOR US TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF CSI ZONING ZONING THAT WE RECOMMEND.

SO FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH OUR PROCESS, UM, THERE WAS A CITY COUNCIL APPROVED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN FOR THE AREA AND AS NERDIST, JUST, UM, SO THEY HAVE, UM, SUPPORTED TO CHANGE, ALTHOUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT SUPPORTING THE CHANGE IN THE FORM.

UM, SO HERE WE, THE STAFF ARE SUPPORTING THE CHANGE, UH, IN THE TWO ZONING CHANGES THAT THEY'VE REQUESTED AND, UM, THE FORM CHANGE IS NOT SUPPORTED.

THAT COMPLETES THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

UM, I HAVE LISTED HERE, UH, VICTORIA HOTSEAT, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS RON TROWER, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT FOR THIS CASE.

UM, ANDREW, I BELIEVE I HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT NEEDS TO GET PULLED UP.

NOW, OKAY.

IF YOU'LL GO TO, UM, THE SLIDE TWO, RIGHT QUICK LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE PROJECT AND 2019, WE HAD, UH, FILED FOR A REASON, I MEAN, A FULL AMENDMENT FOR THIS PROPERTY.

AND AT THAT TIME, TWIN LAKERS WAS LOOKING AT GOING INTO THE EXISTING MATISE, UH, PORTION OF THE BUILDING.

AND SO WE HAD IN THE UPPER LEFT, YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE CS ONE NP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY, AND WE TOOK THE PARKING LOT PORTION OF SES ONE OUT AND PUT IT IN ONLY WHERE TWIN LIQUORS WAS GOING TO EXPAND TO AT THAT TIME.

AND SO THE METAL SLIDE SHOWS WHERE THE CS ONE IS TODAY.

AND SO, UM, TWIN LIQUORS AND MARTY'S HAVE COME TO A DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENT AND IT'S CAUSING FOUR TWIN LIQUORS TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT SPOT INSIDE THE SHOPPING CENTER TO, UH, MOVE THEIR, THEIR OPERATIONS INSIDE THE 2020 APPLICATION THAT'S BEFORE YOU TAKE THE METAL SLIDE TO THE BOTTOM, RIGHT SLIDE AND , UH, AREA IS ONLY DESIGNED TO COVER THE EXISTING TWIN LIQUORS TODAY AND THE PROPOSED TWIN LIQUORS.

AND THEN MATISE WILL TAKE EVENTUALLY TAKE OVER THE, UH, AREA AREA OF THE TWIN LECTURES THAT IS THERE TODAY.

AND SO BY DOING THAT, UM, IN 2019, WE HAD FILED, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, I, IN 2019, WE FILED FOR A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO MIX USE.

AND IN THAT ENDEAVOR, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE ZONING AND DID NOT ADOPT THE SLUMP CHANGE.

AND SO IN 2020 AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE, UH, THE CONTACT TEAM OF THE AREA, WE HAD COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT IT WAS AN ACCEPTABLE CONDITION TO FILE FOR A COMMERCIAL ZONE OR COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH WE DID.

UH, BUT WE'RE ALSO SUPPORTIVE, UH, BY AN AGREEMENT THAT IF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WAS TO STAY INTACT, THAT THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, ACCEPTABLE TO US.

AND OUR CLIENT PROVIDED THAT IN THE END, WE GOT HER ZONING, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO HOW IT WAS DONE, UH, WITH THE, UH, THE CASE IN 2019.

AND IF YOU'LL GO TO THE, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE SIX SLIDE, ONE THAT STARTS OUT WITH CENTRAL WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT THEY AT THE BOTTOM, YOU CAN SEE NEIGHBOR COMMERCIAL ONLY ALLOWS FOR N O L O AND LR.

AND, UM, IF YOU'LL ONE MORE.

AND SO BY FILING FOR COMMERCIAL, THAT DOES ALLOW FOR CS ONE ZONING TO OCCUR ON THE PROPERTY.

SO WE HAD TO, WE, WE WERE FORCED TO FILE FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT BECAUSE THAT'S A REQUIREMENT IN THE CONDITION OF BEING ABLE TO FILE THROUGH THE ZONING FOR .

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN GET INTO ALL THE REASONS WHY CS ONE IS SUPPORTED HERE, BUT, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, 2019 OF WHICH MANY OF Y'ALL WERE MEMBERS AT THE TIME RECOMMENDED IT.

AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT IN THE END, Y'ALL RECOMMEND CS ONE ZONING ON

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THIS PROPERTY AS WELL.

UH, MR. THROWERS IS, UH, ALL, ARE YOU THE ONLY STAY HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT? YEAH.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS.

UM, I BELIEVE, UM, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND, UH, I DON'T MISS IT.

THERE ARE, DO YOU NEED ANY TIME? UH, THERE'S REALLY NO REBUTTAL.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR IT AGAINST, SO I'M GOING TO GO.

OKAY, LET'S GO TO YOUR QUESTION.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, SOME OF YOUR COLORS, ALL RIGHT.

BACK TO THE CLASS.

MOST OF THE CLOTHES YOU HAVE A SECOND.

UM, AND WE VOTED UNANIMOUS LEAD TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, LET'S GO AND MOVE INTO ROUND ROBIN.

I'M GOING TO LET, UH, COMMISSIONER AZHAR GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE LEAD OFF QUESTION SINCE I THINK YOU HAD REQUESTED A, PULL THIS TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE CASE.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLET THEN.

CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN, UM, WHY MIXED USE WAS NOT APPLIED FOR THIS TIME ROUND? LIKE WHY THE MIXED USE ZONING REQUEST HAS BEEN GOT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL CONVERSATION, RIGHT? YES.

COMMISSIONERS ARE, UM, WE HAD, WE HAD TO FILE THE CASE OUT OF CYCLE.

SO WE HAD TO ENTER INTO DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CONTACT TEAM AND THROUGH THOSE DISCUSSIONS, THEIR PREFERENCE, THEIR NUMBER ONE PREFERENCE IS TO LEAVE THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL INTACT, BUT IN THEIR RECOGNITION THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO FILE A FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.

THEY DID ALLOW FOR US TO FILE FOR A COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION ONLY, BUT NOT MIXED USE.

UM, AND CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR, WHAT WAS YOUR, WHAT IS YOUR APPLICATION CURRENTLY? JUST I'M SURE ABOUT THAT? OUR APPLICATION CURRENTLY IS I FILED REQUESTS FOR COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION, AND THEN ZONING FOR THE NEW STORE AREA AND THEN CF ZONING FROM FOR THE AREA THAT WILL NO LONGER EVER BE A PART OF THE TWIN LIQUORS OPERATION.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THOSE WILL BE ALL MY QUESTIONS.

IF THERE WERE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, RESPONDENTS, I WOULD HAVE HAD MORE QUESTIONS, BUT AS OF NOW, I DO NOT.

UH, COMMISSIONERS FOR THE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF, I DON'T SEE ANY, SO, UM, LET'S DO I HAVE A COMMISSIONER THAT WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, FINISHING HER SHEA, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT, UM, THE, UH, ZONING, BUT NOT THE FILUM CHANGE, WHICH IS BASICALLY APPLICANTS, APPLICANTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS REQUEST.

GOT, YEAH.

THE SUPPORT ZONING, BUT NOT THE FLOOD CHANGE.

UM, IS, SO I NEED A LITTLE CLARIFICATION.

THERE IS THAT THE STAFF IS THAT ACTUALLY I'M HEARING THE CAN BE HERE.

UH, THE ITEM SEVEN IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

THEY'RE COMMERCIAL, AND THAT'S RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

SO YOU'RE SAYING NUTS SUPPORT THAT.

SO, SO THE, THE ACTUAL ZONING, CAUSE THERE'S TWO, THERE'S TWO PIECES TO IT.

RIGHT? ONE, ONE IS THE FLOM AND ONE IS THE ZONING.

SO YES.

SUPPORT THE ZONING, BUT NOT THE PLUM CHANGE.

SO THAT'S IN LINE.

IS THAT WHAT THE APPLICANT ASKED FOR? YES, IT IS.

IT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT ASKED FOR.

FROM THERE, IT CAME OUT THAT IT ENDED UP THE COUNCIL WAS OKAY WITH KEEPING THE PLUM AS IT WAS AND ALLOWING THE ZONING TO CHANGE.

SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SEE, UH, HANDFUL OF SECONDS, UH, COMMISSIONER, SHAY, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? YEAH.

I MEAN, W W WE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS BEFORE, AND WE KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME IS.

UM, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THIS TIME AROUND, RIGHT.

THE FIRST TIME AROUND, I THINK IT WAS THE APPLICANT WANTED THE PLUM AND THE ZONING CHANGE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATED WITH, AGAINST IT WENT THROUGH COUNCIL, ALL THE DISCUSSIONS

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SO THE ONLY THING DIFFERENCE WAS INSTEAD OF HERE, THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE IT OVER HERE.

UM, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME CASE, BUT THE ONLY THING NOW IS THAT THE APPLICANT IS IN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY'RE BOTH IN SUPPORT OF NOT CHANGING THE PLUMP AND WE KNOW HOW THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO COME AS IT GOES TO COUNCIL.

UM, SO I'D RATHER JUST MOVE ON FROM HERE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN BE, UH, SO, UM, OKAY.

WE, UH, I'M BEING NOTIFIED, UM, THIS, THIS MOTION LONGMONT TO ADDRESS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING.

SO I THINK ANDREW, DO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE LEGAL TEAM THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS COMMISSIONER'S GAPING? THIS IS NICHOLAS PARK WITH A LOT OF APARTMENT.

UM, WE WOULD JUST LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT THE CITY CHARTER DOES REQUIRE THAT ZONING APPLICATIONS BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR WHICH THE FORUM IS AN ELEMENT TOO.

SO, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THESE ONLY BE CONSISTENT WITH THE FORUM.

AND THAT SOUNDS THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE BEST POSITION AND THE OUTCOME LAST TIME WAS NOT THAT FROM COUNCIL ITSELF.

AND ON THE BIG PICTURE, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S ALLOW THE USE, BUT IF SOMETHING WERE TO CHANGE IN AT LEAST THE VISION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD STILL CONTINUES OF WHAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY.

I MEAN, TWIN LECTURESHIP THERE FOR YEARS.

SO THE IDEA IS ALLOW THIS LOCAL BUSINESS THAT'S BEEN THERE TO CONTINUE, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD STILL CAN CONTINUE, UM, AS WELL.

SO FOR INSTANCE, A TWIN, LIKE YOUR SIZE NOT TO COME, SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN, AT LEAST THE NEIGHBORHOOD STILL HAS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME SOMETHING TO PULL BACK ON.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON TO SUPPORT IT.

SO, UH, SPEAKING, UM, DIVERSE, SOMEBODY SPEAKING AGAINST, AGAINST THE MOTION.

OH, OKAY.

TAKE YOUR CHAIR.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

I WOULD MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON BOTH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT AND ON HIS OWN IN CASE.

SO BOTH ITEMS SEVEN AND EIGHT, I WILL MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND I WILL WAIT TO SPEAK.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON BOTH ITEMS? I SEE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

UH, GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO YOUR SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

I THINK ONE, AND I THINK WE'RE GETTING FROM, UM, BY LEGAL STAFF AND ESSENTIALLY ENSURING THAT BOTH ARE ALIGNED WITH EACH OTHER, PARTICULARLY IN MAKING A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UH, IN MAKING US LEARNING CHANGE WITHOUT CHANGING THEIR VITAMIN WENT WOULD SORT OF GO IN VIOLATION OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE OTHER PIECE IS, AS FAR AS I REMEMBER, I THINK COUNCIL DID NOT VOTE ON PLAN AMENDMENT LAST TIME, BECAUSE THE IDEA WAS THAT IT WOULD BE DONE AS PART OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, REWRITE PROCESS, INSTEAD OF THAT NOT OCCUR AND IS NO LONGER AGREEING AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL OR SEE.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT AT THIS POINT WE SHOULD MOVE ON WITH BOTH.

SO COUNCIL CAN ADDRESS THIS IN THE WAY THAT THEY FIND FIT.

SO I WILL WAIT TO SEE WHAT GOD DOES AND I, WHILE I HAVE MY SPOT, THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS I AM A LITTLE DISMAYED TO SEE NEXT YEAR.

AND I KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT HERE, BUT IF THERE WERE HERE, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND FROM THEM WHERE THEY THINK MIXED USE SHOULD BE ALLOWED WITHIN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WEST OF MOPAC, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE'S NOT A SINGLE SIDE WEST OF MORE BACK THAN THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN THAT ALLOWS FOR MIXED VIEWS FOR ONE SITE THAT WE REZONED LAST YEAR AGAINST THEIR WISHES.

AND SO I'M A LITTLE NEED ON HOW THIS PROCEEDED, BUT I WAS A FOREST, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH, UH, THE APPLICANT IS APPLYING FOR AND DO, AND HONOR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT HAVING SAID THAT, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT REFLECTS THAT CHANGE.

SO THOSE SPEAKING AGAINST THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, DO WE HAVE IT? SOMEONE, ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK FOR THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION? ALRIGHT.

ANYBODY WANNA SAY ANYTHING? UH, NEUTRAL OR, OKAY.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, TAKE A VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.

I'M COUNTING ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT IN FAVOR.

UH, THOSE BODY AGAINST PLEASE CHUBBY READ ONE, TWO, AND THOSE THAT ARE VOTING ABSTAIN NEUTRAL.

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THAT'S IT.

SO THAT PASSES EIGHT TO TWO.

UH, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

UM, CHECKING OUR AGENDA

[Items B11 & B12]

HERE.

WE HAVE ITEMS, UH, B 11 AND THE 12 DAYS ARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE REZONING AT 7,800 BURLINGTON ROAD.

AND I GUESS WE'LL START WITH THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

THIS IS A MARINE MARRIAGES HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

11 IS PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE 4.027800 BURLESON ROAD.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT SEVEN EIGHT ZERO BURLESON ROAD IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SOUTHEAST COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA.

THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM INDUSTRY TO MIXED USE.

IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

THE SOUTHEAST COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM SUBMITTED A LETTER IN SUPPORT THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS WENDY ROSE WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND I'M REPRESENTING THE CORRESPONDING ZONING CASE.

THIS IS A 15 ACRE LOT THAT HAS L I C O AND P AND G R M U N P ZONINGS.

THAT HAS BEEN A COUNCIL APPROVED THE SOUTHEAST COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IN 2002 AND 2003.

THERE IS A SEGMENT OF ONION CREEK THAT FLOWS THROUGH THE NORTH PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ESTABLISHES A 50 FOOT SETBACK ON EITHER SIDE OF AN OPEN WATERWAY.

THERE WAS ALSO A TRIANGULAR SHAPED AREA AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER THAT IS WITHIN AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE THREE, AND GENERALLY COINCIDES WITH THE SEGMENT OF ONION CREEK.

THERE ARE INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES IN THE AREA ACROSS ONION CREEK IS A LIMITED, A WAREHOUSING DISTRIBUTION BUSINESS TO THE EAST IS THAT ART GALLERY AND WORKSHOP AND AUTO RESTORATION AND REPAIR AND AUTO AND OFFICE WAREHOUSE AND TO THE SOUTH OR TO OFFICE WAREHOUSES, UH, OF SIGNIFICANT SIZE.

THERE ARE ALSO IN THE COUNTY, A FEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND DEVELOPED ACREAGE AND THE DEL VALLEY BUS MAINTENANCE FACILITY.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING GRM UNP TO CONSTRUCT UP TO 258 APARTMENTS ABOVE ABOUT 700, 7,500 SQUARE FEET OF GROUND FLOOR COMMERCIAL USES THE APPLICANT ALSO OWNS A ONE ACRE SQUARE SHAPED LOT THAT IS LOCATED AT 78, 10 BURLESON.

IT IS BETWEEN THE TWO PROPOSED AREAS AND HAS GRM UNP ZONING ALREADY AND WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

IT IS NOT PART OF THE ZONING REQUEST, UH, ONION CREEK, BECAUSE IT FLOWS THROUGH THE NORTH PORTION OF THE SITE AND LIMIT TO THE AMOUNT OF BILLABLE AREA, UH, WOULD BE LIMITED LARGELY TO THE BILL, TO THE BURLESON ROAD FRONTAGE.

THE STAFF IS UNABLE TO RECOMMEND THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL GRM UNP AND RECOMMENDS MAINTAINING THE EXISTING ZONING FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

THE REASONING WOULD CONTINUE THE TREND OF REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF EIGHT INDUSTRIAL ACRES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ONE 83 AND A BIA A THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN IMAGINE AUSTIN JOB CENTER AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS GENERALLY DO NOT SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL USES.

UH, THE SOUTHEAST PLAN SUPPORTS MAINTAINING THE INDUSTRIAL USES AND ENCOURAGES NEW INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.

THE LAND IS VIABLE FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES AS SHOWN BY THE LAND USE PATTERN AND NEARBY ZONINGS ON BURLESON AND MCKINNEY FALLS PARKWAY.

AND THERE FINALLY, THE NORTHEAST CORNER IS WITHIN AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE THREE, WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW FOR NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR.

YEAH, THE CONTACT TEAM HAS PROVIDED A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED ZONING AND NPA CASES.

AND, UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

7,800 BURLESON ROAD NEAR BURLESON IN MCKINNEY FALLS PARKWAY.

UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE APPLICANT.

UM, I HAVE, UH, TWO FOLKS HERE LISTED, UM, MR. BALDINI AND MR. WHALEN.

UM, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR.

UH, MR. RIVERA CAN PUT UP THE PRESENTATION.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

MICHAEL WHALEN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT IS THE PRESENT RIGHT? JOHNSON.

IS IT UP? YES, IT'S A WE'RE ON THE COVER PAGE.

UM, I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT ON A CASE AT

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THE SITE IS CURRENTLY LOW ZONE PARTIALLY FOR MIXED USE, AS YOU JUST HEARD AND PARTIALLY FOR INDUSTRIAL OUR REQUEST, WHICH THE CONTACT TEAM SUPPORT.

SO THE CONTACT TEAM IS ACTUALLY IN FAVOR OF OUR, THE APPLICANTS, UH, UH, REQUEST IS TO EXTEND THE MIXED USE ZONING ACROSS THE ENTIRE SITE AND ELIMINATE THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING INCREASED HOUSING, WE BELIEVE THIS DOWN ZONING WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE BASED ON TWO KEY FACTORS.

FIRST LOWERING THE INTENSITY FROM INDUSTRIAL TO MIXED USE IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE, GIVEN ITS ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES, WHICH MS. RHODES JUST IDENTIFIED IN SECOND, IT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE PLANNING GIVEN THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN YOUR OTHER SITES THAT ARE EITHER USED RESIDENTIAL TODAY OR OTHERWISE ARE ZONED FOR, OR ALLOW RESIDENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT.

SO LET'S WALK THROUGH THIS IN A BIT MORE DETAIL.

IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE SLIDE THREE.

THIS IS A SITE TODAY.

IT'S ABOUT 15 ACRES.

NEXT SLIDE SLIDE FOUR.

AND AS I MENTIONED, IT IS ZONE PARTIALLY FOR MIXED USE G R M U ZONING AS MS. ROSE ALSO REFERENCED AND PARTIALLY FOR INDUSTRIAL L I C O ZONING.

NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE FIVE.

OUR REQUEST WOULD BE TO EXTEND THAT GRM ZONING OVER THE REST OF THE SITE ELIMINATING THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING, WHICH WE BELIEVE IS APPROPRIATE FOR SEVERAL REASONS AS YOU'LL SEE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE SLIDE SIX.

THE FIRST MAJOR REASON IS THE SITE HAS ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS NEAR A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND A FLOODPLAIN WHICH OCCUPIED MOST OF THE SITE.

THE PROJECT WOULD STAY OUT OF THESE AREAS ENTIRELY, BUT EVEN HAVING INDUSTRIAL USES ADJACENT TO THESE AREAS COULD HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT.

WE BELIEVE THAT LOWERING THE USE INTENSITY HERE IS MORE SENSITIVE TO THESE ENVIRONMENTAL CHARACTERISTICS.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS JUST DEMONSTRATES WHAT I'VE BEEN DESCRIBING REGARDING SITE AND TEST INTENSITY.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT AT THE HIGH LEVEL, THE TAKEAWAY HERE IS THAT IN MOST RESPECTS, THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS REMAIN THE SAME WITH THE MAJOR CHANGE BEING THAT WE'RE DIALING DOWN THE INTENSITY OF THE USES RIGHT NEXT TO THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, WHICH IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE.

SLIDE EIGHT.

NEXT SLIDE.

FINALLY, AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE MANY EXISTING OR ALLOWED RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

MAKING MIXED USE HERE APPROPRIATE FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE.

NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE NINE IN THE BLUE AREA HERE, WE CAN SEE ALL THE PROPERTIES NEARBY THAT ARE EITHER ZONED FOR OR USED AS RESIDENTIAL USES TODAY.

THIS INCLUDES THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND THE PROPERTY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET WITH THE STAR.

THEN MS. WHO'S THE CONTACT TEAM.

SHARON IS ON THE PHONE TODAY.

WE'LL BE SPEAKING.

NEXT NOTED IS IN DEVELOPMENT.

THEY JUST GOT A NOTICE OF IT, UH, RIGHT NOW FOR MULTI-FAMILY.

WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE 10 IN THE ORANGE HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE UNDER ZONE AND CURRENTLY HAVE ANOTHER USE, BUT WOULD ALLOW RESIDENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE.

THESE ARE IN THE ETJ.

SO THERE ARE MANY, SO THERE ARE MANY SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAT ARE EITHER ZONED FOR USED AS, OR WOULD OTHERWISE ALLOW RESIDENTIAL USES.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SLIDE 11.

FINALLY, THERE ARE THREE ADDITIONAL KEY FACTORS THAT SUPPORT OUR REQUEST.

FIRST, WE ENGAGED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE CONTACT TEAM, WHICH YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT MORE AND THEY HAVE TAKEN A VOTE IN FAVOR OF OUR REQUEST.

SECOND, WE ASKED THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO ANALYZE THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA TO SEE IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO REQUEST MULTIFAMILY USES ON THE SITE AND THEY CAN.

AND THEY SAID, WE, THEY DETERMINED THAT THE SITE MET THOSE STANDARDS IN THE MULTI-FAMILY COULD BE REQUESTED.

WE THEN ALSO PERFORMED AN ADDITIONAL REVIEW OF THE NEARBY ETJ AREAS, WHICH ARE LARGELY EITHER UNDEVELOPED USED AS RESIDENTIAL OR USE FOR DEL VALLEY ISD TRANSPORTATION.

NEXT SLIDE, FINAL SLIDE, PAGE 12, JUST TO RECAP.

7,800 IS CURRENTLY ZONED PARTIALLY FOR INDUSTRIAL AND PARTIALLY FOR MIXED USE.

OUR REQUESTS WOULD EXTEND THE GRM, USE ZONING ACROSS THE SITE, WHICH MAKES THE ZONING MORE CONSISTENT.

AND WE THINK A BETTER FIT FOR THE SITE'S ENVIRONMENTAL CHARACTERISTICS.

THIRD, IT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE PLANNING FOR THE AREA.

GIVEN THAT RESIDENTIAL USES EXISTED IN THE AREA ARE ZONED IN THE AREA AND ARE ALLOWED, ARE OTHERWISE ALLOWED IN THE AREA.

FINALLY, THE CONTACT TEAM SUPPORTS OUR REQUEST AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS INDICATED THAT THE SITE MEETS THEIR STANDARDS AND THE MULTI-FAMILY USES COULD BE REQUESTED HERE.

AND AFTER MRS. IVR, UH, SPEAK, I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

IS IT FIDEL STAR SIX 10 MEET.

SO, UH, ON THE SPEAKER LIST HERE, I HAVE IT SPEAKING FOR AS A BETHANY.

UH,

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HI, THIS IS BETHANY, FIDEL, AND ARCHITECTS AND DEVELOPMENT FOR BURSEY 10 WHO OWNS THE SITE.

UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE.

OH, OKAY.

UH, THEN I MAY NEED CLARIFICATION.

I'M LOOKING AT THE SPEAKER LIST HERE.

UM, SO WHO DO WE HAVE SPEAKING FOR? WE HAVE SPEAKERS SPEAKING FOR, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE I HAD LISTED HERE AS SPEAKING FOR SHE SPEAKING AGAINST STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

OH, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

GIVEN THE SITE ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY.

SO, UM, YES.

SO, UH, NEXT WE HAVE ANNA AND I GET RIGHT AND ANGRY START SIX.

SO NEED DDB COMMISSIONERS.

UM, THANK YOU, CHAIR SHINE, VICE CHAIR CAMPO.

UM, MY NAME IS SANDRA .

I'M THE IMMEDIATE PAST CHAIR OF THE SOUTHEAST COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM.

AND WE ARE RESPECTFULLY AGAINST THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OR CONTACTING PEST, MET WITH THE APPLICANT AND VOTED TO SUPPORT THE PHLEGM ZONING CHANGE.

AND WE, UM, ARE MAKING THIS, YOU KNOW, W W THIS NOTATION WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, PARTLY THE SATURDAY SATURDAY ZONE FOR PART OF THE SITE IS EMU AND DISSIPATED FOR MIXED VIEWS AS OTHER NEARBY PROPERTIES.

AND THIS IS REFLECTED IN OUR LETTER THAT IS DATED NOVEMBER THE 11TH.

A PROPOSAL CHECK FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS PAINTING NEXT TO THE SEVEN 33 BURLESON ROAD, WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY APPROVING THE REQUESTED ZONING INFORMED VISITATION WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING ZONING ON PART OF THE SITE IN OTHER NEARBY PROPERTY.

ADDITIONALLY PORTIONS OF THE SITE ARE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN AND THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY STONE.

THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED AND IS WILLING TO LEAVE THIS AREA IN DETAIL, WHICH WE SUPPORT.

WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE MIXED USE ZONING IN THE PACIFIC ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS, RATHER THAN A HIGHER IMPACT INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING ZONING ON AND NEAR THE PROPERTY AND PROVIDE STATE BADER FEET.

ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE FULLY AWARE THAT TECH SIDE IS PUTTING IN THEIR MAIN HEADQUARTERS CLOSE BY.

SO THIS WILL ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING STOCK IN THIS AREA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORTING YOUR CONSIDERATION.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, SO NOW WE HAVE TIME FOR APPLICANT REBUTTAL.

IF YOU GUYS NEED IT, WE'LL YIELD BACK.

I DO WANT TO JUST NOTE, WE APPRECIATE THE CONTACT TEAM FULL OF VOLUNTEERS MAKING THEMSELVES AVAILABLE MULTIPLE TIMES.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THEIR COMMITMENT AND QUESTIONS AND DEDICATION TO THE PROCESS.

I DON'T HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION BY, UH, FISH, UH, BASHIR HEMPHILL SECONDED BY TRADITIONAL BIZARRE SH UH, LET'S SEE.

WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY.

UH, LET'S SEE, MR. CONNELLY FOR YOU.

UH, INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE AREA.

VERY GOOD.

WE GOT A UNANIMOUS VOTE ON CLOSING THE HEARING.

NO, WE'LL MOVE INTO SOME Q AND A, UH, WHO'S.

WHO'S WANTS TO GO FIRST.

UH, FINISHERS ARE THANK YOU, CHAIR.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR STAFF, UM, STAFF, CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT? EVEN IF WE ALLOWED AND USE THE RESIDENTIAL WAS AROUND UNDER MOU HERE, THEY WOULD STILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BUILD ANY HOUSING IN, IN THREE.

RIGHT? MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE AT THE SITE PLAN TIME, BECAUSE IT IS WITHIN THE OVERLY RESIDENTIAL IS PROHIBITED.

THEY WOULD NOT BE LIKE A BUILD ANYTHING.

YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.

EVEN IF THE PROPERTY DOES HAVE, IS APPROVED FOR GRM UNP ZONING, UH, RESIDENTIAL WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD IN THE FLOOD PLAIN OR THE AOL THREE AREA.

CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND, UM, WHY STAFF WOULD STILL HAVE A CONCERN WITH ALLOWING IT IN THAT SITE? LIKE, IS THERE SOME SORT OF HOW IT BECOMES INCONGRUENT OR LIKE, WHAT AM I JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND? LIKE, WHAT IS THE ISSUE? UH, THE ISSUE WAS, AS WE SAW IT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE WAS ONE OF COMPATIBILITY WITH,

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AND, UM, WE DID DRAW UPON THE, UH, INDUSTRIAL STUDY THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE PAST MONTH OR SO.

THAT'S COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER NEXT.

AND I GUESS JUST ONE FOLLOW UP COMMISSION, JUST FOR US A ONE QUESTION, JUST FOR UNDERSTANDING, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO MAKE A MOTION THAT ESSENTIALLY SAYS THAT WE WOULD GO WITH, YOU KNOW, ONE ZONING ON EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS NOT UNDER, YOU KNOW, THREE AND THE GARNER THAT IS UNDER THE AIRPORT OVERLAY, WE WOULD KEEP IT AS IS, WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE AT THIS TIME FOR US TO INDICATE THAT ONLY SORT OF LIKE WITHIN OUR MOTION TO SPEAKING? UH, YES.

YOU, YOU COULD DO THAT, THAT I GUESS YOU COULD DO EITHER YOU COULD ZONE, UH, THE WHOLE PROPERTY GRM UNP IS THE APPLICANTS REQUESTED.

UM, THIS IS A PLATTED LOT.

SO IF, IF THE, UH, TRIANGULAR AREA THAT'S IS TAKEN OUT, WE WOULD NEED FIELD NOTES TO REPRESENT THAT AREA OR TO REPRESENT YES.

THAT, THAT AREA THAT'S, THAT'S BEING ACCEPTED FROM THE ZONING AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENTS.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, I GUESS, JUST ONE FOLLOW UP, WHICH IS TO SAY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE FIELD NOTES, UM, JUST VERBALLY AT THIS MOMENT WITHOUT A, UM, ANY SORT OF OTHER DOCUMENTATION, IS THAT CORRECT? THINK THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE THE FIELD NOTES FOR AN ORDINANCE PURPOSE.

UH, THANKS.

UH, I, UH, I THINK THIS GOES TO MS. RHODES, THANK YOU FOR, UM, UH, BRINGING UP THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE STUDY.

UH, UH, I, I LOOKED AT THAT AGAIN AND, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IN PART BASED ON THE CONCERNS THAT WERE SURFACED IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE STUDY.

I RECALL A FEW MONTHS AGO WE HAD A CASE AND I'M SORRY, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS.

MAYBE YOU CAN.

IT WAS ON 71 THAT WAS ALSO CONVERTING INDUSTRIAL ZONE SITE TO RESIDENTIAL, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THE COUNCIL MOVED FORWARD AND APPROVED THAT ZONING CHANGE.

UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, OKAY.

MY QUESTION IS, FIRST OF ALL, DID THE, DID COUNCIL GET THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE STUDY? HAS THERE BEEN ANY BRIEFING WITH COUNCIL ABOUT THAT? AND IN THE, UH, IN THE APPROVAL OF THE, UH, THE, UH, UH, SITE ON 71, WAS THERE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS OF REMOVING THE INDUSTRIAL ZONED WATTS? UH, AND I MAY NEED TO DROP MAUREEN, BUT YES, THERE, THERE WASN'T A CASE ON 71 THAT, UH, ALSO CONVERTED FROM, OR WAS REZONED FROM LLI AND P T M F FOUR, THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

THAT WAS EARLIER THIS SUMMER.

I WANT TO SAY LATE AUGUST.

UM, AT THE TIME THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING, THE INDUSTRIAL STUDY HAD NOT BEEN PRESENTED TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND, UM, BUT THE STUDY WAS IN FORMULATION AT THAT TIME.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT STUDY HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO CITY COUNCIL YET.

UM, BUT IT, IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO PLAN.

PERHAPS MAUREEN CAN ADD MORE TO THAT AND KNOWS WHAT THE SCHEDULE MIGHT BE.

THAT DOESN'T, THAT IS NOT ZONED AUSTIN, SO IT MAY HAVE RESIDENTIAL USES, BUT THEY WOULDN'T BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ZONING, THEY WOULDN'T COME TO US, BUT YES, THERE IS INDUSTRIAL, THERE ARE INDUSTRIAL USES AND INDUSTRIAL ZONE LAND, AND THIS AREA THAT WE HAVE CONCERNED ABOUT.

SO I, I GUESS MORE GENERALLY, UM, UH, I, WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STUDY THAT YOU PROVIDED US, BUT THE STUDY RAISED SOME BROAD CONCERNS ABOUT ENSURING THE AVAILABILITY OF HIGH QUALITY EMPLOYMENT FOR PEOPLE AND COMPARING THE AMOUNT OF INDUSTRIAL ZONE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE TO OTHER CITIES.

UM, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO DIVE MORE DEEPLY INTO THAT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CONCERNS THAT WERE SURFACED THERE ARE IN LARGE PART THE BASIS FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION IN THIS CASE.

UH, YES, AS WELL AS, UH, INDUSTRIAL ZONING, OTHER INDUSTRIAL ZONING IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, WHICH WOULD MAKE ADDITIONAL HOUSING, NOT COMPATIBLE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT? YEAH, SO THERE'S INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO THE NORTH, ACROSS THE CREEK, UH, AND YOU KNOW, AND, AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO THE SOUTH ACROSS BURLESON ROAD, THERE IS COUNTY LAND

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AND I GUESS, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF MS. UH, MS. MEREDITH HAS ANYTHING IN ADDITION TO COMMENT ON THAT, BUT IF SO, PLEASE DO, OR IF NOT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT, STAFF OR SPEAKERS, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, YOUR HEMPEL.

SPECIFICALLY THE ART GALLERY, THE AUTO RESTORATION FOR HIGH-END AUTO RESTORATION.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, A CASE THAT WE HEARD, UM, TWO MONTHS AGO, A YEAR, UM, ABOUT THE AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE, POSSIBLY GROWING, UM, AND THE, IN THAT CASE THAT PRECLUDED, UM, UH, MIXED USE ZONING CHANGE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE AIRPORT OVERLAY, UM, IS, HAS THAT COME UP? IS THAT A CONCERN AT ALL FROM STAFF'S VIEWPOINT? UH, WE, WE HADN'T, UH, LOOKED AT THAT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE, THE AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE THREE DOES CLIP A PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY AND IT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN THERE.

I, I, I'M UNSURE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PLANS FOR EXPANDING THE AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE.

AND ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION IS THE, UM, THE BERGS TRANSPOR THAT TRAIL THAT'S PLANNED, IT'S SOMEWHAT CLOSE TO HERE, HAS THAT COME UP IN DISCUSSION ABOUT PROXIMITY TO BAT AND, UM, HOW THE SAME MIGHT BE PLANNING TO RESIDENTIAL CLOSE TO THE SPUR? I I'M AWARE THAT THE BERGSON SPUR THAT THERE IS A PLAN FOR THAT.

I, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S IN PROXIMITY TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, AND I KNOW THAT THERE WERE THE ONES WHERE I'M MORE FAMILIAR WITH IT AS IT, IT RAN CLOSE TO 71 OR PARALLELED 71.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS I'M LOOKING RIGHT NOW? COMMISSIONER SHADE.

I WAS WONDERING IF, UM, I WANTED TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE IDEA OF WHAT IS COMING IN ALL AROUND IT.

IF MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN TELL US MAYBE ACROSS THE STREET DIAGNOSED, I MEAN, JUST KIND OF THE WHOLE GROWTH OF THE AREA, UM, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE US A KIND OF POINT OF CONTEXT OF, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE INDUSTRIAL VERSUS, YOU KNOW, GO MULTIFAMILY.

SO YEAH, MICHAEL WHALEN, YOU'RE CORRECT.

UH, THEY, ACROSS THE STREET AS PREVIOUSLY NOTED THE, UH, MULTIFAMILY IS GOING IN, AND I THINK THAT WAS ON, UH, DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, YOU KNOW, JUST ABOUT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.

THERE'S ALSO ACROSS THE CREEK.

UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ARIEL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PULL THAT BACK UP, BUT THAT HAD THERE'S SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, AND I'M TRYING TO FIND, UH, ALSO FOR YOU, THERE IS, UH, SOME OF THIS IS A LITTLE DECEPTIVE.

I'M GLAD THAT THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO THIS STUDY BECAUSE WHEN THERE'S AN L I PDA SOME OF THOSE PDAS, IT MIGHT LOOK ON THE, ON ITS SURFACE THAT THE, UH, THE ZONING IS LOI.

UH, BUT THE PDA PORTION ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL.

UH, I KNOW THAT'S TRUE.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, ONE OF THEM AT MCKINNEY IN BURLESON SPECIFICALLY HAS, UH, A PDA THAT ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL THERE.

AND WE SEE THAT ON THE AREA.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AREA OF MCKINNEY AND, UH, UH, BURLESON, IT MAY BE ON THE ZONING MAP IS L I TDA.

THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU FOR PULLING THAT SLIDE UP, BUT IT, BUT THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SO MUCH BLUE AROUND US.

AND THE USES THAT ARE AROUND US ARE ALL PERMITTED IN COMMERCIAL.

UH,

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THERE'S SOME, THERE'S A GAS STATION THERE AT THE CORNER.

UH, OH.

AND YOU CAN SEE, I CAN SEE THE SLIDE NOW.

SORRY, I'M 30 SECONDS BEHIND YOU, BUT THAT NEW, UH, RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM US.

IT'S GOING IN.

DOES THAT HELP A LITTLE BIT COMMISSIONER, I GUESS IT DOES.

AND, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, I WOULD ONLY ADD THAT THE, UH, UM, THE BERG BERGSTROM SUBURB BY THE WAY, WOULD BE NORTH OF, UH, OF THIS PROJECT.

I BELIEVE IN THE CREEK THERE, AS I INDICATED REALLY DOES CLEAVE THIS PORTION FROM OTHER INDUSTRIAL ZONING, UH, THAT'S BEEN REFERENCED.

IT REALLY DOES, IS, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, UH, I THINK IT'S SLIDE.

UM, IF YOU GO BACK A SLIDE OR TWO, WHERE WE HAVE THE, UH, FLOOD PLAIN SHOWN AND THE AREA, YOU CAN SEE HOW, UH, NARROW THE AREAS TO DEVELOP, I GUESS.

DO YOU WANT TO SEE THAT COMMISSIONER SHAY? IT'D BE, UM, OKAY, LET'S GO AND MOVE ON.

UM, LET'S GO AND TAKE THE PRESENTATION DOWN SO I CAN SEE FOLKS.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

SO ANY MORE QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ITEM I'M LOOKING AROUND? I DON'T SEE ANY, SO, UH, COMMISSIONER IS, IT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I SEE A MISSIONARY YANNIS, PALITO.

I MOVED TO SUPPORT THE APPLICANT AND CONTACT TEAMS AGREED UPON REQUEST.

I SEE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.

CZAR'S HAND WENT UP FIRST.

SO, UH, GO AHEAD.

DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION, COMMISSIONER TOLEDO? UH, JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT, UM, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA, UM, RAPIDLY DEVELOPING AND HAVE, UM, HEARD FROM BOTH THE CONTACT TEAM AND, UM, THE APPLICANT AND UNDERSTAND THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS ARE TOP OF MIND AND VERY IMPORTANT.

UH, BUT I THINK THAT THE DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN PRETTY TRANSPARENT ABOVE BOARD AND BOTH PARTIES IN OUR AGREEMENT.

SO IN SPORT.

DO WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, AGAINST, ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S DO HER IN FAVOR, UH, UH, SPEAKER NEUTRAL.

UH, GO AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER SNYDER.

UH, I, I THINK IN THE END, UH, I'LL END UP SUPPORTING THIS, BUT, UM, I DO FEEL LIKE WE'VE NOW GOT A COUPLE OF CASES WHERE WERE TURNING INDUSTRIAL, UM, LAND INTO RESIDENTIAL LAND, AND THAT MAY BE COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE, BUT, UH, I DID TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE STUDY, AND I FEEL LIKE AS A COMMISSION, WE HAVEN'T, AND WE HAVEN'T, AND WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

UM, OBVIOUSLY HOUSING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND TOP OF MIND FOR EVERYONE HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE, AS WE DISCUSSED, NEIGHBORHOODS NEED A VARIETY OF THINGS, HISTORIC COMMERCIAL, SMALL OFFICES, CITIES NEED INDUSTRIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BASE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE GOOD JOBS FOR PEOPLE OF ALL SKILL LEVELS.

YOU KNOW, JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AIRPORT IS A GINORMOUS PIECE OF INDUSTRIAL LAND THAT, YOU KNOW, IN 10 YEARS WE COULD HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CARVING UP AND BUILDING RESIDENTIAL, AND NOW IT'S THE HOME TO, YOU KNOW, A FUTURE MAJOR EMPLOYER TYPE SWAT.

UM, SO I JUST, I JUST WANT US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND BEING MINDFUL OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH INDUSTRIAL, RATHER THAN JUST SORT OF SLEEPWALK THROUGH THIS AND APPROVE THEM BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WE NEED HOUSING SPEAKERS FOR COMMISSIONERS ARE.

HEARING, YOU KNOW, THE MULTI-FAMILIES GOING NEARBY.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

I, I THINK THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA SAY WAS, UM, ONE, YOU KNOW, AGREEING WITH WHAT COMMISSIONING IS SAYING.

I THINK THERE'S BEEN TRANSPARENT TRANSPARENCY, THE PROCESS.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THE APPLICANT IN NEIGHBORHOOD WORK THE GUYS ON THIS AND GET SOME REAL SOLUTIONS.

I ALSO WANT TO SAY, I FEEL LIKE MY BIGGEST CONCERN WOULD HAVE BEEN THE AIRPORT OVERLAY JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HAS COME UP BEFORE.

AND I THINK THAT'S A GENUINE PLANNING CONCERN FOR THE CITY.

HOWEVER, I THINK I'M CLEARLY HEARING THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE ZONE IS THAT ONLY WOULD PROHIBIT ANY RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO THERE WOULD BE NO IMPACT ON RESIDENTS BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NO FUTURE RESIDENTS.

SO I THINK THAT DEFINITELY FOR ME, UM, OR IT COMES THAT CONCERN.

AND I GUESS THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS

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I FEEL LIKE IN SOME WAYS, YOU KNOW, THE USE HERE IS ALREADY IN CONGRUENT WITH ITS NEIGHBORS, FARSI.

LIKE THE SHIP HAS SAILED IN SOME WAYS, IF WE WANTED TO SEE THIS AS A, UM, A SIGNIFICANT VIRTUAL SPACE.

SO I THINK HAVING THOSE CHANGES AND LOOKING AT THE, UH, THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKED ON, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS CASE.

UH, ANY MEMBER SPEAKING AGAINST THE MOTION? NEUTRAL.

NEUTRAL.

AGREED WITH, UH, A COUPLE OF, UH, ROBERT SCHNEIDER'S COMMENTS JUST NOW, BUT YEAH.

IT'S LIKE, EVENTUALLY I THINK I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS ONE, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MORE THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VOTING, I GUESS, AGAINST STAFF RECOMMENDATION AGAIN FOR HOUSING, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WE NEED HOUSING.

THIS ONE, I UNDERSTAND A BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RE WE'RE REZONING INDUSTRIAL, IT'S NEXT TO AN AIRPORT.

IT'S ON BURLESON.

UM, IT'S LIKE, SO SETH HAD THESE REASONS OF YOU REALLY WANNA MOVE THROUGH ALL YOUR INDUSTRIAL ZONING FOR HOUSING.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO PUT MORE HOUSING NEXT TO THE AIRPORT? AND IT'S LIKE, I UNDERSTAND THOSE ARGUMENTS, BUT I'M THINKING ABOUT THE OTHER CASE.

AND IT'S LIKE, YOU REALLY WANT TO PUT MORE HOUSING IN THIS INCREDIBLY HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA NEXT TO IT, TOB, BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY NICE SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS OVER HERE.

AND ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THAT? AND IT'S JUST LIKE, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND TOTALLY WHY, YOU KNOW, WE GET SOME OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THE WAY WE DO, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS ONE'S TOUGHER THAN THE LAST ONE, FOR SURE.

THAT BEING SAID SUPPORTIVE TO YOU GUYS, BUT I DO HOPE WE HAVE A BIGGER CONVERSATION ON HOUSING.

THEY WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT JAY.

DO YOU HAVE ANY MEMBERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE MOTION COMMISSIONER , I'LL SPEAK FOR? UM, I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT GOES A REALLY LONG WAY, UM, TOWARDS MY VOTE HERE, BUT ALSO, UH, ALONG THE BIGGER CONVERSATION OF INDUSTRIAL ZONE AND, UM, CITIES HAVE GROWN FOR GENERATIONS HAVE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

IF WE KEPT INDUSTRIAL ZONE LAND FOREVER EAST AUSTIN WOULD ZONED INDUSTRIAL.

SO I THINK AS CITIES GROW, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHERE THE INDUSTRIAL LAND, WHICH IS VERY NECESSARY SHOULD BE LOCATED.

I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.

YES, IT IS CLOSE TO AN AIRPORT, BUT WE'RE ALSO THE SAME DISTANCE.

IF NOT CLOSER TO MCKINNEY FALLS, STATE PARK, A BEAUTIFUL NATURAL SPACE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS.

SO, UM, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS, UM, THIS MOTION.

ANY OF THE, ANY ONE I WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST? OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON, LET ME GET THIS.

THIS IS THE MOTION BY YONIS.

PALITO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER OZAR.

AND THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTED NPA AND ZONING CHANGE.

ARE WE OKAY? SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND SEE THOSE IN FAVOR ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10.

WE HAVE ALL 10 OF US.

THAT ONE, THAT MOTION PASSES.

DO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ITEM.

LET ME LOOK AT THE AGENDA HERE.

UH, WE, UH, JUST REAL QUICK, WE'RE AT NINE 47.

UH, WE

[B20. Historic Design Standards]

THIS IS ON THE, UM, THE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND LET ME GET A QUICK SURVEY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS? UH, CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS, UH, BUT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY AHEAD OF TIME JUST SEEING IT.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS, UH, BECAUSE WE, I THINK, UM, WE CAN, UH, HEAR THIS ANOTHER TIME IF WE WISH TO, UM, IT'S COMING ON 10 O'CLOCK.

UH, SO, UM, WHAT'S THE WISH DO WE HAVE ANYONE WITH AMENDMENTS TO THE, TO THIS PLAN IS STANDARDS.

WELL, AND YOU'RE STILL FREE TO DO IT AFTER WE HEAR A PRESENTATION.

WE DO ANDREW.

THERE IS SOMEBODY HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, CORRECT? ACTUALLY, WE HAD THE PRESENTATION AT THE LAST MEETING.

OH.

AND I WASN'T THERE.

SO, UM, OKAY.

SO THIS IS TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT.

UH, SO WE CAN PROBABLY KNOCK THIS ONE OUT, UH, GIVEN THERE ARE NO AMENDMENTS.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION, UM, ON A CONSIDERATION ADOPTION OF HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS? UM, ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? I SEE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR, HEMPHILL I'LL MOTION, MAKE A MOTION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ADOPT THE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS OR TO RECOMMEND ADOPTION TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS.

UM, YEAH, THE SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHEA.

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I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION.

THERE IS A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF WORKING GROUPS AND VOLUNTEERS THAT PUT TIME AND EFFORT INTO THIS.

AND, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATED THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK THAT, UM, THE WAY THE DOCUMENT IS STRUCTURED, I THINK IT'S REALLY CLEAR, UM, AND IS GOING TO MAKE SOME OF THESE PROCESSES A LOT EASIER.

UM, I THINK THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD LAST TIME WAS REALLY GOOD.

UM, THESE DESIGN STANDARDS AS A CONVERSATION STARTER FOR SOME THINGS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND EQUITY IN USING OUR CLIENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UM, SO, UM, ANYTHING ELSE? GOOD JOB STAFF.

SO ANY MONEY WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST THE MOTION? ANYONE IN FAVOR, A FINISHER SHED.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, SO I'VE DESIGNED UNDER, UH, THE HISTORIC GUIDELINES ON, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE MY PROJECTS ALREADY AND I'VE WORKED THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS AND, YOU KNOW, IN SO MANY TIMES, YOU KNOW, THROUGH IT, IT'S LIKE TRYING TO, UM, RETHINK, UH, RE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

AND ALSO WITH THE CHANGES AS YOU GO THROUGH THIS HISTORIC LAND COMMISSION, WORKING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS, OFTENTIMES IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, ONE MIGHT FEEL A ONE WAY FEEL THE OTHER WAY, BUT, UM, I FEEL LIKE THIS DOCUMENT IS GOING TO HELP BRING AT LEAST A GOOD BASELINE FOR ALL THE DISCUSSIONS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, INCREDIBLY NEEDED IN ADDITION.

UM, I FEEL LIKE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE, UM, THEIR FIRST INCLINATION IS I CAN'T DO IT.

I'M JUST GOING TO TEAR THIS BUILDING OUT RIGHT.

AND START OVER, UM, PICKS UP ON A LOT OF FALLACIES, YOU KNOW, AND, AND A LOT OF MYTHS OF WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET HISTORIC DESIGNATION, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT TOOL BECAUSE IT REALLY MAKES IT VISUAL.

AND, UM, IT HOLDS PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE TO WHAT IS PRESENTED IN FRONT OF THEM AS A GOOD START.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING THIS, ANY SPEAKERS AGAINST ANYONE FOR THAT ONE MORE SPOT, THAT COMMISSIONER CENTER.

SO, UM, I WAS REALLY HAPPY, UH, WHEN, FIRST OF ALL, A LOT OF PRAISE FOR THE STAFF FOR DEVELOPING THIS, UM, IT'S A VERY READABLE DOCUMENT.

I THINK THAT GOES A LONG WAY TO, UM, EXPLAIN THE PROCESS AND EXPLAIN STANDARDS.

I'VE BEEN, I WAS VERY PLEASED THAT, UM, UH, WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH, UH, HOLY CROSS HISTORICAL DISTRICT.

UM, AND, UH, BUT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE STAFF SORT OF SEPARATE FROM THIS, BUT MAYBE AS A PART OF THIS EFFORT.

UM, AND MAYBE THIS IS HAPPENING TOO TO MAYBE DO SOME SORT OF SURVEY TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT AREAS OF THE CITY, PARTICULARLY THE OLDER PARTS OF THE CITY ARE UNDERREPRESENTED IN TERMS OF HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND HISTORIC PROPERTIES, AND MAYBE WORKING WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE OR WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BRING MORE VISIBILITY TO THIS PROCESS, TO MAYBE HAVE SOME SORT OF OMBUDSMAN PROCESS THAT WILL HELP PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY WITH PEOPLE OF MORE MODEST MEANS, UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE GRANT RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THEM AS WELL AS LOGISTICAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THEM.

I THINK WE'RE DOING A LOT WITH THE ADOPTION OF THIS TO EXPLAIN IN A STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY WHAT HISTORIC DESIGNATION IS ABOUT AND HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.

BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO MEASURE OUR SUCCESS, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS OF TOWN THAT ARE UNDERREPRESENTED IN TERMS OF, UM, HISTORIC DESIGNATIONS.

SO, UM, YES, SO WE FINISHED OUR DEBATE HERE AND SO WE HAVE THE EMOTION WE DIDN'T OPTION.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE BASE MOTION.

UH, AT THIS POINT I'M NOT SEEING ANY, SO, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL, UM, THE, UH, THE ADOPTION OF THE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS.

UM, AND THAT WAS OFFERED UP BY COMMISSIONER HEMPHILL AND SET THE SECOND ADVICE AND THEY WERE VOTING.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD.

AND I SKIPPED NEAR 10 O'CLOCK.

UH, LET'S GO AND SEE YOUR GREEN IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR, THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

UH, WE NEED TO EXTEND TIME JUST TO TAKE CARE OF A FEW MORE ITEMS, BUT IT SHOULDN'T TAKE

AND,

[Additional Item 1]

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LONG.

CAN SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE, UH, JUST A FEW MORE MINUTES IN CASE WE NEED THEM.

I SEE COMMISSIONER CZAR, A MOTION TO GO TILL WHEN LET'S SAY 10, 15, 10, 15.

DO I HAVE A SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, UH, GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR THAT.

ARE, UH, DO WE WANT TO CONSIDER ANY FUTURE AGENDA AGENDA ITEMS? AND I WILL JUST, OKAY, GO AHEAD.

VERY GOOD.

UNANIMOUS EXCEPT JOE PAULO IS OUT.

SO THAT'S NO, NO.

UH, ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, WE ARE DONE WITH OUR, OUR AGENDA ITEMS, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, NEW BUSINESS WE HAD DONE, UH, THERE

[D. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

COMMISSIONER SNYDER.

UH, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION WITH STAFF ABOUT, UH, THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE STUDY.

CAN YOU CLARIFY JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF STAFF CAUSE WE HAD THE PRESENTATION.

SO WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IN ADDITION TO WHAT THEY PROVIDED BEFORE? UH, I, HMM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I, WHAT, WHAT I REALLY WANT IS FOR, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DISCUSS IT.

UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE MECHANISM TO DO THAT IS, UM, TO HAVE STAFF, UM, BE THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE CLARITY.

UH, REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME.

I'M TRYING TO MULTITASK HERE.

SORRY.

UM, I WOULD LIKE IN COMMISSION TO DISCUSS, UM, WHETHER WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, SOME SORT OF REVISED MAP FOR INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND THAT STAFF, UH, I GET, DID THEY ACTUALLY PRESENT TO US IN THE PAST? I THOUGHT WE JUST RECEIVED THE STUDY.

UH, WELL, SOMEBODY CLARIFY, I THINK WE DID HAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, UH, STAFF DID, BUT WE WERE, WE DID NOT TAKE ACTION.

IT WAS JUST A PRESENTATION.

SO WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING, UH, MAYBE A QUICK REFRESHER OF WHAT THEY PRESENTED THAT WE WOULD, UH, HAVE TIME TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT STUDY, OR WE COULD ALSO REFER IT TO MAYBE CODES, ONE OF THE SUB, UH, JOINT COMMITTEES.

UH, HOW ABOUT IF I WITHDRAW THIS AND THINK IT THROUGH A LITTLE MORE AND UH, I'LL OPERATE AGAIN.

YEAH, I THINK THAT COULD BE, IT COULD BE ADD TO THE QUESTIONS.

I MEAN, I KNOW YOU HAVE SORT OF A LIST OF QUESTIONS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME THAT WILL BE COMING FROM THE TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP ON, UM, UH, AND SOME TRANSPORTATION THINGS.

SO COULD WE MAYBE JUST HAVE SORT OF A LIST OF QUESTIONS AND THEN HAVE STAFF SORT OF FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO PRESENT THE ANSWER TO THOSE QUESTIONS, IF IT'S ONE PRESENTATION OR FOUR OR WHATEVER.

SO, UH, WHEN I'M THINK I'M HEARING IT, SO LET'S TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE STUDY THAT WE PRESENT TO STAFF AND ASK THEM TO COME BACK WITH, UH, A PRESENTATION AROUND NOTICE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS.

UM, DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A, UH, SO, UM, LET'S SEE FOR THE COMMISSION THEN A FUTURE ON AN, IF YOU SUBMIT YOUR QUESTIONS TO ME, UH, ON THE INDUSTRIAL STUDY, UH, I'LL, I'LL TIE THOSE UP.

LIKE I HAVE THE OTHER VMU AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH ARE STILL GONNA, WILL BE SENT OUT HERE SOON TO STAFF.

UH, BUT DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A GOOD COURSE OF ACTION? UH, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER? YEAH.

IS, ARE, UH, I LIKED THAT I DID.

UH, ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? A COMMISSIONER IS OUR CHAIR.

THIS IS PROCEDURAL, SO I'M NOT SURE IF I'M ALLOWED TO DO THIS OR NOT, BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO DO IT.

WE GET A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF ON, UM, ESSENTIALLY WHAT, HOW DOES THE CITY GRANT BE DEFINE OR SEEING NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS AND HOW DO THEY APPEAR ON OUR, UM, OUR ZONING REVIEW SHEETS? AND HOW DOES THE STAFF HANDLE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS? I THINK JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH OVER, UM, THE BIRTHSTONE FOR BAKER SCHOOL AND SORT OF LIKE SOME DISCONTENT AMONG THE COMMUNITY, I JUST WANT TO REALLY FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT PUBLICLY.

I MYSELF DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT AS PART OF THE COMMISSION HEARING THEN, UM, AND OUR COMMUNITY CAN UNDERSTAND, LIKE HOW DOES THE CITY GRANT BE DEFINED NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS? WHAT APPEARS ON THE LEARNING REVIEW SHEETS? HOW DOES THE STAFF HANDLE WHERE THEY'RE ABUSING NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS AND ESSENTIALLY, HOW DO WE WORK TOWARDS PARITY BETWEEN DIFFERENT ASSOCIATIONS FOR THE SAME CASE, BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING THIS EMERGE MORE AND MORE, UH, CONDITIONER

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COULD I ASK THAT WE START WITH MAYBE POSING A QUESTION TO STAFF TO ANSWER IN WRITING, AND THEN IF WE FEEL IT'S, UH, NEEDS MORE EXPLANATION OR FURTHER PUBLIC, UH, KIND OF ATTENTION OR, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE, UH, CONDITION WE CAN BRING IT, UH, FOR A PRESENTATION.

CAN WE START THAT WAY? I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

MY ONLY THING WOULD BE WHETHER THEY CAN THEN POST IT AS PART OF OUR Q AND A, JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN SEE THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS AS WELL.

SO I BELIEVE, UH, ANY ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS, UH, UM, UH, MR. RIVERA, I MEAN, ANYTHING THAT WE RECEIVED FROM STAFF CAN BE SHARED, UM, WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH THE PUBLIC, CORRECT? SURE.

COMMISSION PLEASE ON ANDREA OR THAT'S CORRECT.

UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE SHOULD I HAVE MR. ANDERSON? I JUST WANTED TO SECOND THAT IN CASE YOU NEEDED A SECOND AND THANK YOU AND TO ADD TO IT, AND MAYBE WE COULD JUST NOT, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU CAN ASSEMBLE OUR QUESTIONS OR MS. RIVERA CAN, BUT, UH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW ALSO, LIKE HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN'S MAJORITY RENTER, RIGHT.

AND SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT JUST HEARING FROM HOMEOWNERS, LIKE, OFTENTIMES I'VE NOTICED THAT CONTACT TEAMS ARE MADE UP OF ALMOST LIKE STRICTLY HOMEOWNERS WITH LIKE 5% OR 10% RENTERS SOMETIMES WHEN THEY SHOW UP.

AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S HARD TO GET FOLKS TO SELL OUT AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS HEARING FROM EVERYBODY AS BEST WE CAN.

SO, UM, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THIS AND SEEING WHERE THAT CAN GO.

AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE, UH, HEAR THAT.

HOPEFULLY.

SO HELP ME OUT HERE, PROCEDURALLY ANDREW.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE JUST POSING QUESTIONS TO STAFF, DO WE, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT ASKING FOR A PRESENTATION, DO WE NEED TO GET A SECOND, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THOSE KINDS OF REQUESTS? SURE.

I AM MAKING NOTE AND ACCEPTING THOSE AS JUST INQUIRIES.

SO THEIR INQUIRIES IS WHAT WE'RE CALLING THEM.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE SEVERAL INQUIRIES.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IF I DO, DID WE NOT WANT THAT TO BE A POST-IT ITEM OF SOME KIND OF WHERE THAT COULD BE KIND OF A BIGGER DISCUSSION, MAYBE EVEN HEAR FROM FOLKS OUTSIDE WHO TRY TO CHIME IN, OR IS THAT JUST GOING TO BE A WRITTEN STATEMENT FROM STAFF? WELL, MY IDEA, UH, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON WAS WE WOULD START WITH THE Q AND A, AND THEN LOOK AT WHAT WE RECEIVED AND THEN DECIDE IF WE FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE NEEDED TO MOVE FURTHER AND HAVE DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THESE IN OUR MEETING SAID.

YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

AND I THINK WE COULD THEN BUILD ON QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME WHEN WE GET THAT PRESENTATION ABOUT IF WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PLAN AND HOW IT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED.

UM, AND I, UM, OKAY.

ANY OTHER SOLID, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY? YEAH.

I'M STILL THINKING OF HOW BEST TO PUT THIS, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE SOME VERSION OF THIS WAS ALREADY LISTED AS A QUESTION THAT WE WANTED TO ASK STAFF.

UM, BUT THIS IS SORT OF SIMILAR TO, UH, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER'S COMMENT ABOUT GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR, UH, POLICY TOWARDS INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND ABOUT THE SITUATION AROUND INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

AND I'M INTERESTED IN HAVING A SORT OF SOME KIND OF SIMILAR PRESENTATION ABOUT, UH, WHAT OUR BROADER POLICY IS ON HOUSING.

UM, YOU KNOW, W WE HAD THIS KIND OF DISCUSSION TODAY AROUND, AROUND, AROUND DIFFERENT, UH, APPROACHES TO, TO, TO ZONING IN DIFFERENT AREAS, COMPATIBILITY QUESTIONS, AND SO FORTH.

AND I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT, I WAS WONDERING IF STAFF COULD GIVE US A PRESENTATION OR MAYBE GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON IF THERE IS SOME KIND OF A BROADER, CONSISTENT, UH, POLICY OR APPROACH TOWARDS, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND JUST DENSER HOUSING IN GENERAL.

UM, IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF CONSISTENT STRATEGY THERE, UH, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES.

AND I THINK I'M GOING TO, AND IF I UNDERSTAND YOU AND PLEA, UH, SO WE HAVE THE AUSTIN, UM, STRATEGIC HOUSING PLAN AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AND WE HAD, UH, THOSE ARE APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

AND WHAT WE HAD ASKED FOR IS WE WANTED TO SEE PERFORM WELL, WE'RE GETTING READY TO, WE ASKED FOR AN, A MEETING, BUT I HAVE A VERY DETAILED LIST.

AND I'M ACTUALLY WORKING WITH STAFF ON TRYING TO LOOK AT OPEN THE OPEN DATA SITE AND SEEING IF I CAN PULL OUT THE REPORTS MYSELF, UH, BUT WE'LL GET A REPORT FROM STAFF, BUT WE WANTED TO SEE THE METRICS.

HOW ARE WE PERFORMING COMPARED TO THE GOALS THAT WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL? SO I THINK THERE IS A BLUEPRINT AND THERE IS A PLAN, AND WE WERE INTERESTED AS A COMMISSION AND SEEING HOW ARE THESE PERFORMING AS WELL AS HOW THE VMU, UH, CODE IS PERFORMING IN CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, UM, UH, I KNOW ANDERSON THOMPSON AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR, AND WE'RE EAGER TO RECEIVE THEM.

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UH, DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT TIME TO MAYBE ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT HOUSING? YEAH, NO, I THINK THAT, THAT SOUNDS, I WAS INTERESTED ALSO IN QUESTIONS ABOUT KIND OF GEOGRAPHICAL DISTRIBUTION AND, AND, AND WHERE WE PRIORITIZE THE CREATION OF HOUSING.

BUT I THINK THAT I CAN WAIT UNTIL THAT PRESENTATION.

THAT SOUNDS PERFECT.

SO THE QUESTIONS TO STAFF ARE ABOUT EXACTLY THAT THEY HAD FOR EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT.

THEY HAD DESIGNATED GOALS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND SO WE'RE ASKING ONE AS STAFF, ARE THEY MEASURING AGAINST THOSE GOALS? AND SO IT WILL, HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A DISTRIBUTION AND IT SHOWS THAT EACH DISTRICT ARE THEY MEETING THEIR GOALS.

SO I THINK IF WE GET THE REPORTS BACK, WE'RE ASKING FOR, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF GLEAN HOW THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING MIX IS, HOW IT'S BEING DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE CITY.

SO, UH, I THINK THAT'LL HELP.

PERFECT.

I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

OKAY, SURE.

MR. ANDERSON.

I WANT HIM TO CHIME IN ON THAT SAME ISSUE AND I'M REALLY EXCITED.

I'D LIKE IT, IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND KIND OF LAND ON THAT DATE AND MAYBE, MAYBE BY THE NEXT MEETING WE CAN LAND ON WHEN THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR.

I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HEALTHY FOR ALL OF US TO REALLY HAVE THAT HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT HOUSING ON EVERY POPULATION PROJECTION I LOOK AT HAS AUSTIN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE COUNTRY FOR A LONG TIME, FASTEST GROWING LARGE CITY PERCENTAGE WISE.

AND BEFORE THAT, WE WERE THE SECOND FASTEST GROWING LARGE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING I'M SEEING HAS THIS DOUBLING AGAIN IN POPULATION IN THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS.

AND I GET IT.

A LOT OF FOLKS MIGHT NOT BE A FAN OF THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF LIVING IN AN AMAZING CITY, AND THERE'S A LOT OF ATTRACTION FOR FOLKS TO WANT TO BE HERE AND HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THOSE REALITIES THAT WE CAN SEE AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE RESPOND? AND SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE OUR HEAD IN THE SAND AS A CITY, AND THAT'S DEMONSTRATED VERY WELL BY CAPTURING 25% OF OUR REGION'S GROWTH.

AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, YOU KNOW, THOSE, EVERY HIGH-INCOME PERSON THAT WANTS TO BE HERE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BE HERE.

EVERYONE ELSE WHO'S DESPERATELY TRYING TO HANG ON TO STAY HERE IS HAVING A VERY DIFFICULT TIME TRYING TO DO SO.

AND SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE ORIGINAL FORMS OF HOUSING WE BUILT WERE BUILT FOR A VERY SMALL CITY WHEN LAND WAS CHEAP.

AND SO WE HAD, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN FORMS OF HOUSING THAT ARE BECOMING UNBELIEVABLY AND UNAFFORDABLE FORMS OF HOUSING, YOU KNOW, TO TRY AND BUILD INTO MY WORK FOR NONPROFITS, BUILD A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AUSTIN AND SINGLE FAMILY FORUM.

WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE HERE.

SO TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND TO MAYBE EVEN BY OUTSIDE GROUPS, YOU KNOW, HOUSING WORKS, MAYBE SEEING YOU, OR JUST GROUPS THAT CAN HELP US THINK THROUGH AFFORDABILITY AND THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT ARE A LOT MORE AFFORDABLE.

I THINK WE MIGHT ALL REALLY BENEFIT FROM THAT.

SO WE, WE, UH, SO WHAT I HEARD YOUR PROPOSAL, UM, AT THE BEGINNING WAS TO TRY TO NARROW A TIMEFRAME FOR GETTING THIS PRESENTATION, UH, ON THE AFFORDABILITY MATRIX.

UH, UH, I WAS THE STAFF MEMBER.

I WAS IN A CONVERSATION WITH SAID THEY ARE TRYING TO FINALIZE SOME OF THEIR DATA FROM THE LAST, UH, FISCAL YEAR, I BELIEVE.

SO.

UM, I WOULD BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE SEEING THE LAST YEAR WOULD BE HELPFUL.

SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF JANUARY IS TOO SOON, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT BE READY, ANDREW.

I MEAN, CAN WE PROPOSE A DATE? UM, I GUESS OUR SECOND JANUARY PC MEETING IS A TARGET DATE FOR THAT PRESENTATION ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING METRICS, CHAIR, COMMISSIONING LIAISON, THE HANDOVER.

SO WITH ALL BRIEFINGS, IT IS ON THE AVAILABILITY OF STAFF.

AND SO I COULDN'T PROMISE A DATE OR, UM, BUT I KNOW THAT STAFF IS WORKING ON IT.

WELL, SO I WOULD LIKE TO TARGET, UH, SOMETIME IN JANUARY, UH, AND I'LL HOPEFULLY, UM, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON.

I MIGHT HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT DATA ONCE I MEET WITH STAFF, UH, AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT WE CAN LOOK IT OVER.

UM, ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR FUTURE AGENDA? GO AHEAD.

I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMEBODY.

BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, UPDATES, AND I'LL JUST KEEP A GENERAL, UH, I WILL START WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO, UH, HEARING NOTHING ADDITIONAL ON, UH, AGENDA ITEM D UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO

[E. BOARDS, COMMITTEES & WORKING GROUPS UPDATES]

UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A JANUARY MEETING, SO THAT WILL BE SCHEDULED BY MATT DOUGAN.

AND SO WE SHOULD, UH, START MEETING STUFF AGAIN.

UH, QUARTERLY REDO STUFF AGAIN SOON.

UM, SO HOW ABOUT CLUBS OR ORDINANCES? ANY UPDATES? NO,

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WE HAD NOT MET STILL A BAD CODE.

UH, JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.

WAS THERE ANY FURTHER MEETINGS ON THAT? YES, I THINK I REPORTED ON EVERYTHING AT OUR LAST MEETING.

A SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE WE'RE MEETING TOMORROW MORNING.

AND SO CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD.

UM, WE HAVEN'T MET, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A SUB MEETING WITH THE CITY'S BROUGHT ON ECONOMIST WHO CAN HELP KIND OF WALK THROUGH, UM, KIND OF AS A THIRD-PARTY FOR THE CITY TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AS FAR AS HOW TO BUILD OUT THE SITE.

UM, MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP.

UH, I, I JUST WANNA MENTION SOMETHING THERE BEFORE I ASKED FOR AN UPDATE.

UH, I GOT A, UH, EMAIL THAT THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL, UH, IS, IS OUT FOR REVIEW, IS THAT I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON IS THE, ONE OF THE ACTIVITIES FOR THIS WORK GROUP IS TO REVIEW THAT CRITERIA MANUAL AND OFFER COMMENT.

HAVE YOU GUYS HAD A CHANCE TO MEET YET? W W WE HAVE, AND WE ACTUALLY JUST SORT OF TALKED ABOUT THE SCOPE AND, AND WHAT WE WOULD DO.

AND I THINK THE THING THAT WE THOUGHT WAS MOST CRITICAL RIGHT NOW IS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE PROJECT CONNECT WAS AND THE NEW BOND.

UM, AND SO I THINK WE JUST ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT TO STAFF ABOUT, YOU KNOW, W WHAT ARE THEIR, WHAT ARE THEIR ACTIONS RIGHT NOW, MAYBE WE GET SOME SORT OF PRESENTATION FROM STAFF ABOUT WHAT THEIR ACTIONS ARE RIGHT NOW, AND THEN TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE INTERFACE WITH THAT.

UH, IF WE COULD HAVE A VOTE ON SOMEONE ASSIGNED PLATS, PLEASE.

UH, YEAH.

AND I, I SEE YOU GUYS, UH, WELL, YOU GOT A REALLY GOOD TEAM GOT, UH, COMMISSIONER AZHAR, UH, WAS BROUGHT IN LAST TIME.

SO IT'S A GOOD BUMPS THERE.

UM, AND I, SO ANY OTHER UPDATES FOR, UH, ITEM B? ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE, UM, I'M GOING TO SAY ONE MORE THING.

I JUST FEEL LIKE I NEED TO, UH, SORRY, I GOT A FEW MINUTES.

UM, I HAVE BEEN GETTING SOME FEEDBACK JUST CONCERNING SOME OF THE DECORUM AND LEVEL OF RESPECT AT THE MEETINGS.

AND I WANT TO SAY, UH, I SENT IT EARLIER.

ALL OF, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL HAVE CHANGED MY MIND SEVERAL TIMES ON ISSUES.

WE COME FROM ALL SPECTRUMS AND WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS AND WE NEED THE DIVERSE OPINION, AND WE NEED TO RESPECT EACH OTHER FOR THOSE OPINIONS.

AND SO PLEASE, WHEN WE'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSIONS AGAIN, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST A WAY WE WORK TOGETHER AND THE WAY WE OFFER UP A CRITIQUE AND, AND RESPONSES, UH, THAT ARE RESPECTFUL AND, AND REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE IN LINE WITH THE PC REQUIREMENTS, UH, COMMISSIONED REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS THE ROBERT'S RULES.

SO PLEASE TRY TO KEEP IT IN, UH, YOU KNOW, HIGH LEVEL AND ALSO, UH, REMEMBER STAFF TOO.

I, AS WELL AS YOU ARE TERRIBLY FRUSTRATED WITH SOMETIMES AWAY, WE RECEIVE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE NEED TO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE WORKING WITH CERTAIN ELEMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, CONSTRAINTS ON THEIR END AS WELL.

SO LET'S CONTINUE TO BE VERY RESPECTFUL TO STAFF.

THEY WORK HARD TO BRING THESE MEETINGS TO US EVERY WEEK.

UH, BUT I WILL SAY, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU, UH, ALL OF YOUR OPINIONS AND LET'S JUST KEEP IT RESPECTFUL.

AND, AND WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, PEOPLE LISTEN TO US.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS, COMMUNICATION ABOUT HOW WE WORK TOGETHER, AND I WANT TO BE KNOWN AS THE TEAM THAT WORKS TOGETHER AND REALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, COMES AT IT WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS, BUT FINDS GOOD SOLUTIONS.

WE HAD SOME REALLY CREATIVE IDEAS TONIGHT, UH, BUT WE JUST, THERE WERE SOME LEGAL TRAPS THAT WE COULDN'T IMPLEMENT THEM, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR CREATIVITY AND JUST CONTINUE TO RESPECT EACH OTHER, PLEASE.

UM, AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING YES.

[Additional Item 2]

OH, THANK YOU.

I NEED A VOLUNTEER, UH, UH, TO SIGN PLAT.

SO THAT WOULD BE GOING TO ONE TEXAS CENTER AND PUTTING YOUR SIGNATURE ON SOME, UH, SO I NEED, UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO HELP ME OUT COMMISSIONER ANDERSON? UH, DO I NEED A SECOND ON THAT? OUR MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, IF WE NEED ANY ACTION ON THAT, ANDREW.

HOWARD, GIVE ME ONE MORE TIME.

A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, MR. SHEA SECONDS, LET'S VOTE MR. ANDERSON TO SIGN THE FLATS, UH, SCENE.

UH, LET'S SEE, COMMISSIONER

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IT'S UNANIMOUS.

SO NOW I CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 10 14.