[Call to Order]
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FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ON YOUR PHONES, YOUR DISEMBODIED VOICES SOMEWHERE, WE CAN'T SEE YOU, BUT WE WILL GIVE INSTRUCTIONS FOR WHEN YOU MAY SPEAK.
AND ON THE ORDER OF BUSINESS, THIS IS THE MEETING OF THE AUSTIN HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, DECEMBER 14TH, 2020.
AND I'LL CALL THE ROLE IN HIND.
SETH IS HERE, YOUR FEATHERSTON, MATTHEW, JACOB, NOT YET.
VASILIA NOT YET BLAKE TO LET YOU'RE HERE.
BETH FELONS VILLA IS HERE AND CAROLINE, RIGHT? OKAY.
[Consent Agenda: B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B6, B7, B8, C1, C2, C3, C4, C5, C6, C7, C8, C9, C10, C11, D1, D2, D3, D4, D5, D6, D7, D8, D9, D10, D11, D12, D13, E1]
OUR AGENDA IS CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS.IF SOMEONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA THAT MAY BE RELEVANT TO PRESERVATION.
IN SOME WAY YOU MAY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK AT CITIZENS COMMUNICATION? OKAY.
UM, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, BUT I'M GOING TO FIRST, UM, GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AND WE WILL, UH, PULL ITEMS. UM, WE'LL SEE WHICH ITEMS ARE ON CONSENT.
PULL SOME ITEMS, WHICH ONES ARE ON POSTPONEMENT.
AND THAT WILL INCLUDE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 16TH.
THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ON PUBLIC HEARINGS UNDER A, UM, WE HAVE ONE ITEM UP, UM, FOR COMMISSION INITIATED ZONING THAT UNDER B ON D ONE, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE STAFF NO FURTHER, UM, NO FURTHER ACTION AS REQUIRED.
I'M WONDERING IF IT SHOULD BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA OR IF, OR REALLY NO FURTHER ACTION IS REQUIRED.
UH, NO FURTHER ACTION IS REQUIRED, SO IT DOES NOT NEED TO PASS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THE NEXT ITEM D TO THE JACKSON NOVI KELLY HOEY HOUSE AT 24 SIX HARRIS BOULEVARD.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT TO JANUARY 25TH.
THE MAVERICK NOLLER HOUSE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT AND WE'LL LEAVE IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO PULL IT.
THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR PLAN, SOMEWHAT REVISED THEIR PLAN SOMEWHAT AFTER MEETING WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION.
THAT IF ANYONE WANTS TO PULL THOSE, PLEASE SAY SO NOW.
WE MOVE ON TO ITEM BEFORE THE MAYFIELD, UM, GUCCI HOUSE AND GARDENS AT 35 OH FIVE WEST 25TH STREET.
THIS ITEM IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
I'M INVOLVED WITH MAYFIELD PARK.
I'VE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION.
PLEASE NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER TELE HAS RECUSED HIMSELF FROM THIS ITEM AND IT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
THE NEXT ITEM D FIVE IS ALSO OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
THIS IS FOR, UH, THE BERN REED HOUSE AT 14, 10 RIO GRANDE.
IT WAS A HERITAGE GRANT FUNDED, UH, REPAIR AND STABILIZATION PROJECT ITEM B SIX IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
THE METROPOLITAN AFRICAN METHODIST EPISCOPAL CHURCH IS ANOTHER HERITAGE GRANT FUNDED PROJECT TO REPAIR THE BELFRY AND RELOCATE THE BELL
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ITEM D SEVEN PEACE PARK IS ALSO OFFERED FOR CONSENT.THIS IS ANOTHER HERITAGE GRANT FUNDED PROJECT TO REHABILITATE THE TUTOR COTTAGE ON THE PARK ITEM B EIGHT IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE CONSENT IS FOR THE REPAIR, THE WINDOWS AND DOORS AS DISCUSSED IN THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, BUT NOT THE ROOF CHANGE.
WE GO ON TO SEE DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS AND NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS.
ONE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT, 1406 ETHERIDGE AVENUE.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO PULL THIS, PLEASE SAY SO NOW THIS WAS FOR A FRONT YARD MODIFICATIONS.
UM, AND THEY HAVE REVISED THEIR PLAN SOMEWHAT.
THEY'RE IMPLEMENTED IN THE, IN THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR BACKUP ITEMS. SEE TWO, FIVE OH SIX CONGRESS AVENUE AND SIX, 10 BROWSES STREET.
THIS WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.
ITEM C3 EIGHT 16 CONGRESS AVENUE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.
ITEM C4 IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
THIS IS FOR 1601 WOODLAWN BOULEVARD TO DEMOLISH A NON-CONTRIBUTING BUILDING AND CONSTRUCT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM.
C6 1406 WEST 29TH STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT APPROVAL.
UH, UH, I'D LIKE TO NOTE, THIS IS TELLING, UM, THE CASE MANAGER ON THIS, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT FOR THIS ITEM, UH, TO JANUARY.
THIS ITEM WILL BE, UM, WE WILL TAKE THIS UP UNDER POSTPONEMENTS ITEMS, C5 JANUARY.
UM, ITEM C6 32 19 FUNSTON STREET TO DEMOLISH A NON-CONTRIBUTING HOUSE AND CONSTRUCT A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
THIS IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM C SEVEN HAS BEEN, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT TO JANUARY 25TH.
SO WE WILL TAKE THAT UP UNDER THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA ITEM C EIGHT 16, 15 WATERSTON AVENUE.
HAS ANYONE ASKED TO PULL THIS ITEM? CHRONIC CLIENTS? OKAY, I'M GOING TO PULL IT.
THIS IS ITEM C EIGHT 16, 15 WATERSTONE AVENUE IN THE WEST LINE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I HAVE PULLED THAT ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.
I AM SEEING NINE 15, 17 MURRAY LANE.
THAT IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM C 10 32 OH SEVEN FUNSTON STREET, DEMOLISH A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING.
THIS IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UNLESS SOMEONE PULLS UP ITEM C 11, 15, 10 PALMA PRO PLAZA.
I THINK THERE'S SOMEONE HERE WHO WANTS TO PULL THAT ITEM.
SOME OUTSIDE SPEAKERS, UH, ASKED TO PULL THAT ITEM.
SO IT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM UNDER A SECTION D DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR DEMOLITION OR RELOCATION ITEM D ONE 47, 14 ROWENA STREET.
IT POSTPONE THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO MARCH 22ND, 2021.
THAT'S TENTATIVE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.
THEY HAVE ASKED THIS ITEM TO BE POSTPONED JUST TO SATISFY THAT REQUEST COMES FROM THE OWNER.
I DON'T KNOW IT DOESN'T SAY ON OUR YES, I'M SORRY.
IT'S THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS REQUESTED THAT.
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D TWO 1400 DRAKE AVENUE, THERE IS SOMEONE WHO IS ASKED TO PULL THAT ITEM.SO THAT WILL BE UP FOR DISCUSSION.
I'D HAVE
AND, UH, THAT'S BEEN PULLED FROM THE AGENDA.
SO THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER D FIVE MIC FAILS FLOORS.
IT'S SIX OF FIVE BUTTONS SCREENS.
HAPPY THOSE OF YOU HAVING HAPPY HOUR.
WOULD YOU PLEASE MUTE YOURSELVES? THANK YOU.
ITEM D FIVE, MAKE FAILS FLORES.
THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.
AS I SAID, NUMBER D SIX, 14, 14, ALAMEDA.
THAT'S BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION
THAT'S UP OFFERED FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ITEM DENYING 2102 ALTA VISTA AVENUE.
THAT'S BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM D 10 1402 DRAKE AVENUE.
THAT'S BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM D 1156 13 RANCH ROAD.
UM, THAT WAS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.
I AM PULLING THAT FOR DISCUSSION ITEM D 43 10 ROSEDALE AVENUE.
THAT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM, AN ITEM D 13 2011 TILLOTSON AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT AND THAT'S A RELOCATION ALSO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEM E ONE, THE SEABORN SNEAD HOUSE AT 1801 GNOMES DRIVE.
THAT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT TO BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS, UM, ARE THE, UH, THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING NOVEMBER.
I WANT TO REITERATE FOR THE SPEAKERS WHO ARE ON THE LINE.
IF THE CONSENT AGENDA IS PASSED AND YOUR ITEM IS ON THAT CONSENT AGENDA HAS NOT BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION YOU, YOUR ITEM WILL HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
HOWEVER YOU WILL NEED TO FOLLOW THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO PREPARE IS CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE FOR ARCHIVING AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER, WHICH INCLUDES PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL FACADES, UM, DIMENSION SKETCH PLAN, AND A NARRATIVE HISTORY.
THIS WILL BE ARCHIVED AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER.
UM, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER STIPULATIONS OF BY STAFF, THOSE SHOULD BE, UM, UH, SEATED TO AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF PASSING OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT, UM, MR. UH, JACOB AND DID MR.
COULD YOU CLARIFY IF, UH, THERE WAS A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? I CAN SECOND IT, CAN WE, DO WE NEED TO TAKE THE VOTE? SURE.
UM, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND, ANY OPPOSED ARE NONE OPPOSED.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WAITING, OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS IN, IN THESE, UM,
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ONLINE MEETINGS IS TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE SPEAKERS IN THE ORDER THEY APPEAR ON THE AGENDA.SO IF YOUR ITEM WAS UP FOR DISCUSSION OR PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, PLEASE GET READY TO SPEAK.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IF RATHER THAN REITERATE WHAT A SPEAKER BEFORE YOU HAS SAID, IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE SPEAKERS, PLEASE KEEP IT SHORT.
MAYBE ONLY THAT YOUTUBE, UM, OPPOSE OR SUPPORT A PARTICULAR ITEM BEFORE WE GO TO THOSE ITEMS. YES.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO THE POSTPONEMENTS.
I WAS GOING UP, I WAS MOVING ALONG TO THE, OUR, UH, TO OUR PRESENTATION.
SO WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WHAT DO WE HAVE FOR POSTPONEMENT D TWO 24, SIX HARRIS POSTPONE TO JANUARY 25TH.
I THINK WE HAD AT LEAST ONE MORE D ONE 47, 14.
ROWENA IS POSTPONED TO MARCH 22ND.
BUT THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT, BUT YOU SAID IT WAS JUST PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, DEFOUR HAS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING, THOSE ITEMS SEVEN, I WOULD.
COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? UM, D SEVEN IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION 10, 16 AVONDALE ROAD DOES NOT ON THE CONSENT OR THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA.
WELL, WE'LL DISCUSS IT TONIGHT IN THE ORDER THAT IT APPEARS ON THE AGENDA.
SO JUST WAS IN YOUR NUMBERS WHEN YOU WERE CALLING IT.
I WANTED TO MAKE IT WASN'T NO, IT'S IT'S WE WILL DISCUSS IT TONIGHT.
UH, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA? THAT WAS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOMESTYLE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
NOW, UM, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WE'LL TAKE THOSE SPEAKERS ON THE DIFFERENT ITEMS AS THEY COME, BUT FIRST WE HAVE A PRESENTATION
[2A. Presentation on the Austin Central Fire Station #1 – 401 E. 5th Street]
AND POSSIBLE ACTION.THE PRESENTATION IS ON THE AUSTIN CENTRAL FIRE STATION.
NUMBER ONE AT FOUR OH ONE EAST FIFTH STREET ON BRIDGE SQUARE WITH THE O HENRY HOUSE AND THE SUSANNA DICKINSON HOUSE.
SO DO WE HAVE, UM, SOMEONE TO SPEAK TO THAT ITEMS AND WHEN MAKING THE PRESENTATION? MADAM CHAIR? YES, WE DO.
I AM THE DESIGN DIRECTOR AT WEB DESIGN GROUP HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.
WE ARE THE ARCHITECTS OF RECORD FOR THIS PROJECT SLIDE TWO.
UH, IT'S CONTEXT WAS GONE OVER ALREADY.
UH, THIS IS AT FOUR OH ONE EAST FIFTH STREET.
IT'S ON A BLOCK OWNED BY THE CITY WITH THE O HENRY HOUSE AND IS COORDINATED WITH THE BRUSH SQUARE PROJECT BUILDING.
THE ORIGINAL BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1938.
THE ORIGINAL BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1938 BY ARCHITECTS.
CRISEL IN BROOKS UNDER THE WPA AND WAS PLACED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES IN THE YEAR 2004 IN 1962, UH, AN ANNEX WAS ADDED BY EUGENE BOOT CASH.
YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE LEFT HERE IN THE SLIDE, SLIDE FIVE
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IN THE EIGHTIES, THE HISTORIC WINDOWS WERE REPLACED WITH, UH, NON HISTORIC WINDOWS.AND WE'LL BE GETTING TO THAT LATER.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PRECEDENT PRESERVATION, SLIDE SIX, THE HISTORY OF THIS BUILDING IS, UH, THAT IT IS A MODERN STYLE BUILDING OFTEN CALLED THE STREAMLINED MODERN.
THERE'S A SIMPLICITY AND ORNAMENTATION, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THE PLAIN BLOCKINESS OF SOME OF THE MAPPING SLIDE SEVEN.
ALTHOUGH THE BUILDING DOES HAVE SOME DECORATION, MOSTLY USING BUILDING MATERIALS WITH SUBTLE PATTERNING BRICK COURSING, AND ON EACH OF THE TWO MAJOR FACADE SYMBOLIC TOWERS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, AND SOME RATHER BEAUTIFUL NICKEL FINISHED LIGHT FIVE, EIGHT RADICAL ISSUES OF THIS BUILDING AT A TIME WAS THE CORNER ENTRY, WHICH IS FRAMED BY THIS CURVED CORNER SLIDE NINE ONE OR THE OTHER CHARACTERISTICS THAT DEFINES THIS BUILDING OF THE LAYERING OF THE DIFFERENT PLANES AND ELEMENTS THAT CREATES INTEREST AND THE FACADE.
YOU CAN ALSO SEE HERE, HOW THE ASYMMETRY KIND OF PLAYS OFF OF THE CEMETERY THAT YOU SEE AT THE CORNER SLIDE 10, THERE PRESERVATION EFFORT THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.
AND ONE OF THE MAIN PRESERVATION ISSUES IS MAINTAINING THE ORIGINAL INTENTION YEARS, FIVE 11 PRESERVATION, ONE OF THE WINDOWS BY REPLACING THE NON HISTORIC WINDOWS WITH WINDOWS THAT ARE BOTH ENERGY EFFICIENT AND FAR MORE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE ORIGINAL DESIGN INTENT SLIDE 12.
THERE'S ALSO CONSIDERABLE DEGRADATION OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE REPAIRED, INCLUDING CLEANING THE BRICK, REPLACING, FAILING A STUCCO LENTILS SLIDE 13.
SO THE, FOR THIS IS TO SET THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMS DEPARTMENT UP FOR THE FUTURE.
AND THERE WERE TWO MAJOR THINGS THAT THEY NEEDED.
ONE WAS THE ACCOMMODATION OF MODERN VEHICLE SIZES.
IN ONE OF THE BAY, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENTIAL HERE AND THE RED LINES, AND ALSO THE FACT THAT THIS IS NO LONGER A MALE ONLY PROFESSION AND THAT THERE'S GENDER EQUITY IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND THE SLEEPING QUARTERS, YOU CAN SEE THE DORM STYLE ON THE LEFT AND THE MORE PRIVATE SLEEPING QUARTERS ON THE RIGHT SLIDE, 14, THE HAVE OBJECTIVES AS WELL WITH, UH, IMPROVED LIFE SAFETY AND PROVED AS ACCESSIBILITY, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AND MAINTAINING THE BUILDINGS, INCLUSION ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTRY SLIDE 15.
I WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, STARTING WITH THE PLAN YOU CAN SEE IN GREEN HERE, THAT THIS IS THE CHANGE TO EXISTING AND THE BLUE IS THE ADDITION.
THE MAIN THING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS SLIDE IS THAT THESE CHANGES AND ADDITIONS ARE NOT ON THE TWO PRIMARY FACADE OF FIFTH STREET AND TRINITY STREET, WHICH ARE REALLY THE KEY SEMINOLE FACADE TO, UH, THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THIS BUILDING.
BUT RATHER THAN ON THE BACK SIDE, WHICH FACES TOWARDS THE PARKING LOT, SLIDE 16, THIS IS THE SECOND FLOOR SHOWING MUCH THE SAME WHERE THE, THE CHANGES TO THE EXISTING AND THE CONDUCT AND THE ADDITION ARE ON THE BACKSIDE FIVE 17.
SO WE WANT TO BE, BE VERY OPEN ABOUT THE CHANGES TO THE HISTORIC FABRIC.
THIS IS EAST FIFTH STREET, AND YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN IS THE X DENT OF THE CHANGE TO THE HISTORIC FABRIC.
THE BLUE IS AN ADDITION, BUT IT IS WAY BACK IN PLAIN AND WILL NOT BE VISIBLE FROM THIS STREET LOCATION, SLIDE 18, THE OTHER PRIMARY FACADE OUT OF TRINITY STREET.
ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE IN GREEN THE CHANGES TO THE HISTORIC FABRIC AND THEN IN BLUE, THE ADDITION THAT ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS SIGNIFICANTLY BACK AND PLAYING SLIDE 19.
THERE'S ALSO SOME SIGNAGE CHANGES.
YOU CAN SEE THE MAIN SIGN HERE INCORPORATING THE FACT THAT EMF IS THERE.
SLIDE 20, THERE'S A SIGN SCHEDULED TO GO AWAY.
AND ANOTHER ONE THAT'S SCHEDULED TO BE ADDED ALL IN THE SAME COLOR, VEIN TEXT, AND FONT SLIDE 21.
SO WE HAD SEVERAL OBJECTIVES WITH THE ADDITION.
THE PRIMARY ONE THAT WE SET OUT WAS TO MINIMIZE IT TO WHAT WAS ABSOLUTELY PROGRAMMATICALLY NECESSARY.
THIS ADDITION REPRESENTS A 4.3% INCREASE TO THE GRID SQUARE FOOT OF THE PROJECT.
SO OBJECTIVE NUMBER ONE WAS KEEP IT SMALL
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SLIDE.ANOTHER IDEA WAS TO KEEP IT SEPARATE.
AND THERE WAS A CLEAR DELINEATION BETWEEN WHAT WAS OLD AND NEW.
THERE'S NO TRICKERY AS TO WHAT IS THE RETURN AND WHAT HAS BEEN ADDED SLIDE 23.
ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING WAS THE PROMINENCE OF THAT FRONT DOOR ENTRY.
AND WHAT A MAJOR STATEMENT THAT MADE IN 1938, THERE IS AN ADDITION, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, ENTRY THAT'S ADDED WITH THE ADDITION ON THE BACKSIDE TO THE PARKING LOT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS SMALLER.
IT IS SHORTER, IT IS RECESSED AND IT IS DARK AND IT DOESN'T CALL A LOT OF ATTENTION TO ITSELF.
AND THE IDEA IS FOR THIS TO BE DEFERENTIAL TO THE IMPORTANCE AND THE HISTORICAL NATURE OF THE ORIGINAL ENTRY SLIDE 24, THE ADDITION IS ALSO MEANT TO PULL TOGETHER THE MAPPING OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING AND THE ANNEX, UH, ON THE BACK.
THE ANNEX IS A PRETTY FLAT AND UNADORNED FACADE.
SO WE KEPT WITH THE BLOCKY, UH, NATURE OF THE TWO BIG MASSES ON EITHER SIDE REPRESENTING SCALE AND HEIGHT TO PULL IT ALL TOGETHER AS A MULE AND ADMIRABLE, UH, COMPOSITION FOR THE BACKSIDE, GOING TO SLIDE 25, THE IDEA WAS TO KEEP BOTH THE OLD AND THE NEW VISIBLE TOGETHER.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE TRANSPARENCY ALLOWS YOU TO FEED THROUGH A MODERN, TO THE ORIGINAL FABRIC OF THE BUILDING THAT IS PRESERVED ON THE INTERIOR, THEREBY TYING THE TWO CENTURIES TOGETHER, SLIDE 26.
ONE OF THE OTHER MAJOR ELEMENTS OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING HAVE A VISION OF AUSTIN AS A MODERN AND PROGRESSIVE CITY.
AND WE SEE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES AS ONE OF THE WAYS TO CONTINUE THOSE ASPIRATIONS.
AND THE BUILDING WAS DESIGNED TO INCORPORATE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES IN A GRACEFUL MANNER, SLIDE 27, THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION.
AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANYONE FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
IT WAS REALLY A NICE PRESENTATION THAT COVERED MOST OF THE ASPECTS.
I THINK THAT WE DO IN LOOKING AT NEW CONSTRUCTION AND ADDITIONS TO HISTORIC BUILDINGS, COMMISSION MEMBERS.
DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, LET ME JUST ASK YOU, YOU SAID POSSIBLE ACTION.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND HAS, UH, A LOT OF MERIT AND I REALLY HAVE TO APPLAUD ALSO THE CLARITY FOR THE, FOR GETTING A LOT OF INFORMATION TO US AND A VERY FINE PRESENTATION.
UM, W W DO WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION NOW AND IF NOT, UH, WILL IT BE COMING BEFORE A SHORTLY WE'RE REQUESTING NO ACTION.
THIS IS MORE OR LESS FOR, UM, FOR US TO LOOK AT, TO THINK ABOUT AND I'LL COME BACK IN THE FUTURE FOR ACTION.
ARE YOU LOOKING FOR APPROVAL IN CONCEPT? THIS IS REALLY A COMMUNICATION EXERCISE THIS EVENING.
UM, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT BUILDING FOR AUSTIN AND, UH, WE FEEL VERY HONORED TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THE PROJECT.
AND, UH, WE JUST BELIEVE THAT, UH, OPEN COMMUNICATION AND IS THE WAY TO GO.
AND FOR ME PERSONALLY, IF IT DOESN'T COME IN A LITTLE BLUE BOX FROM TIFFANY, I DON'T REALLY LIKE SURPRISES.
AND I KNOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOESN'T EITHER.
SO THIS IS REALLY ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE PROJECT IS VISIBLE AND THAT Y'ALL ARE DIALED IN ON THIS.
AND, UH, AS FUTURE ACTION MAY BE NEEDED, UM, THAT YOU'RE NOT CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, KEVIN COOK, YOU'VE HAD A QUEST PATH, UH, I WANT TO REITERATE, IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION.
UH, I'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THE COMPLICATED PROGRAM.
THE ONE THING THAT CATCHES ME IS THE EXPANSION OF THAT BAY AND HEIGHTS, WHICH I'M SURE IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO THE PROGRAM.
I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT THE PATTERN OF THAT DOOR TO POSSIBLY TRY RECAPTURE THE, UH, THE PATTERNS ON THAT FACADE AND NOT JUST MAKE IT A BIGGER, BIGGER OPENING, MAYBE SOMETHING ALONG THE TOP OF THAT THAT REFLECTS THE BRICK WORK THAT USED TO BE THERE WITH SOME STAIRS.
SO A LITTLE DECORATION HERE, UM, LOSING THAT BRIDGEPORT.
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I JUST TAG ONTO THE LAST COMMENT.DID THAT SORT OF LIKE AN EXPRESSION OF THE HEADER, YOU KNOW, OF THE STRUCTURE THERE, UNTIL THAT PRESENTATION, THINGS CAN BE A GREAT PROJECT.
EXCUSE ME, WOULD THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE MUTE YOURSELVES.
WE CAN HEAR ALL THE WRECK US IN THE BACKGROUND, AND WE CAN'T HEAR THE PRESENTATION THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN MY KIDS.
WOULD YOU MUTE THOSE KIDS ALL THE TIME? TELL THEM COMMISSIONER MEYER'S SENSE OF, OKAY.
I HAVE TO, I JUST HAVE TO CHECK THIS ALONG.
I THINK, I THINK A LOT OF US ARE, WE'RE REALLY PLEASED WITH THIS PRESENTATION.
SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE DO GET HIT WITH THINGS OUT OF THE BLUE AND THE PRESENTATION DOESN'T REALLY, UH, TEAR THINGS UP FOR US ANYMORE, BUT THIS WAS, I THOUGHT A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION GIVES US THE, THE NUTS AND BOLTS, BUT I HAVE TO SAY I'M NOT OVERLY FOND OF THE ORANGE, UH, ART IN PUBLIC SPACES.
UM, I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S JUST, UH, A PLACEHOLDER IN, YES, MADAM CHAIR.
THAT'S A, ESSENTIALLY A FAKE JOEL SHAPIRO.
UH, JOEL SHAPIRO WAS CHOSEN AS THE ARTIST FOR ONE REASON.
AND ONE REASON ONLY, UM, HE IS EASY TO REPLICATE AND REV IT FOR MODELING PURPOSES.
BUT, UH, I DO KNOW THAT THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, UH, COMMISSION, UH, GOES THROUGH A VERY RIGOROUS PROCESS WITH THIS.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO ENGAGING WITH THEM AND MAKING SURE THAT THE ARCHITECTURE AND THAT THE ART AND THE SENSE OF PLACE ALL COME TOGETHER.
IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY OR ANYTHING FOR THEM? I CAN MENTION.
AND WE'LL BE SEEING YOU IN THE FUTURE TIMES.
WE WILL GO AHEAD WITH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND, UH, SO IT'S NEW FLOOR, UH, VAPING ONLINE.
WE'LL TAKE THEM IN THE ORDER THAT CAME ON THE AGENDA AT THE THIRST
[A1. HDP-2020-0440 – 416 W. 12th Street – Discussion]
IS FOUR 16 WEST 12TH STREET.UH, THE COMMISSION INITIATED HISTORY ZONING OF THE NATIONAL REGISTER, LISTED DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY BUILDING.
UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO SPEAK ON THIS.
PLEASE ORGANIZE YOURSELF YOURSELVES SO THAT WE CAN MOVE, UM, EFFICIENTLY THROUGH THOSE NUMBERS.
NOW, SINCE THIS IS THE PROPOSAL IS COMMISSIONED INITIATED ZONING.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN FAVOR OF ZONING ON THE LINE RIGHT NOW? HEY, TERRY, THIS IS ANGELA GOT THAT THEY WILL BE HAPPY TO MODERATE THE LIST OF SPEAKERS.
SO I WILL CALL YOU OUT BY NAME AND WE'LL START WITH MICHAEL WHALEN.
THANK YOU, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER MICHAEL WHALEN ON BEHALF OF THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT SHOULD BE OUT THERE.
UH, ANGELA, UH, DID WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS, UH, IN FAVOR OF THE, UM, AN OF INITIATING HISTORIC ZONING ON THE LINE? ANGELA? YES.
I WAS CLARIFYING A, UH, YOUR QUESTION WITH, UM, MY COWORKER.
DOES THE APPLICANT NEED TO GO FIRST? WELL, THE APPLICANT IS THE, USUALLY WE HAVE THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICATION IS OUR, UM, INITIATED ZONING OF THE NATIONAL REGISTER LISTED BUILDING.
SO ANYONE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF HISTORIC ZONING, THIS PROPERTY SHOULD GO FIRST.
IN THAT CASE, WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP IN FAVOR, ROBERT BASS.
ROB WAS BASS SUPPORT RECOMMENDATION.
I AM A PARTNER WITH ALISON BASS
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AND BIGGIE, WHICH OFFICES IT'S BUILDING AND THE AOL WATSON HOUSE, JUST TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT FOUR 16.WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR HISTORIC CLASSIFICATION.
WE BELIEVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE BETTER SERVED WITH RETAINING THAT STATUS.
A L WATSON HOUSE ITSELF IS HISTORIC, UH, BUILT IN 1896.
IT'S DESIGNED BY A L WATSON WHO IS DESIGNED SEVERAL PUBLIC BUILDINGS, BOTH IN AUSTIN AND AROUND THE STATE THAT CONTINUE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC AND PASS THESE FROM SCHOOL BUILDINGS TO HISTORICAL COURTHOUSES.
AND WE JUST FEEL THAT THIS, UH, PROPOSAL TO KEEP THE, UH, KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY, UH, AS A HISTORIC STRUCTURE SHOULD BE HONORED.
UH, NOW IF WE HAVE NO MORE SPEAKERS IN FAVOR, WE CAN GO AHEAD WITH THOSE OPPOSED TO THE INITIATIVES.
UH, I'M THE CO-OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO FOUR ONE SIX, AND I'M PLEASED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OR HISTORIC ZONING OF FOUR 41 SIX WEST 12TH STREET.
UH, AS BOB NOTED, UH, WE HAD PURCHASED, UH, OUR PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THIS, UH, OVER 20 YEARS AGO AND IN LARGE MEASURE, UH, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC NATURE OF BOTH OF THE BUILDING THAT WE OCCUPIED OWNED, BUT ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WEST 12TH STREET WEST OF THE CAPITAL, UH, WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE A NUMBER OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES, UH, ON THAT STREET PRESERVED.
UH, WE WERE, WERE HONORED TO, UH, PARTICIPATED IN THE CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM FOR OVER 20 YEARS, UH, AND FRANKLY, UH, UH, HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS IMPORTANT AS IS CERTAINLY FOUR 16 WEST 12TH STREET IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO US.
WE AGREE WITH THE STAFF THAT THAT STRUCTURE IS DESERVING OF HISTORIC ZONING.
AND FRANKLY, UH, IF WE DO NOT MAINTAIN THAT BUILDING, IF IT IS REPLACED BY 30 STORY, RESIDENTIAL TOWER AS IS PROPOSED, UH, EXPECT TO SEE AN EXODUS OF THOSE OF US THAT HAVE SPENT OUR TIME AND MONEY PRESERVING HISTORIC STRUCTURES ALONG WEST 12TH STREET.
UM, I THINK THIS IS A BELLWETHER ACTIVITY AND PROJECT.
UH, WE URGE YOU TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER AND MAINTAIN THE HISTORICAL STRUCTURES THAT ARE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BY APPROVING THE RECOMMENDATION FOR STORAGE ZONING FOR FOUR ONE SIX WEST WEST STREET.
WE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MR. ELLISON, IS THERE ANYONE, DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKER THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD WITH THE, UM, OPPOSITION, WE'LL START WITH MICHAEL WHALEN.
IS THAT PRESENTATION UP? GO AHEAD.
UH, AGAIN, MICHAEL WHALEN ON BEHALF OF DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY, INTERNATIONAL, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THEIR CURRENT BUILDING AND THEIR PLAN USE OF THAT PROPERTY TO HELP REVITALIZE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA AND KEEP IT WORKING FOR WOMEN EDUCATORS.
IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE TWO, PLEASE, TODAY, YOU WILL HEAR FROM A VARIETY OF SPEAKERS ABOUT DELTA KAPPA GAMMA'S WORK, THEIR LEGACY AND THEIR PROPOSAL FOR THE SITE.
AT THE CORE OF THIS TESTIMONY WILL BE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA'S REQUEST FOR THE CITY TO CHOOSE DOWNTOWN MIXED USE ZONING INSTEAD OF HISTORIC ZONING.
THERE ARE TWO KEY REASONS FOR THIS REQUEST.
FIRST DELTA KAPPA GAMMA'S OFFICE SITE IS ONE OF THEIR MOST IMPORTANT RESOURCES AND IS CRITICAL TO THEIR PLAN TO REVITALIZE THE ORGANIZATION IN ORDER TO ENSURE IT CAN CONTINUE TO DELIVER ON ITS MISSION.
DMU ZONING WOULD EMPOWER THEM TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT PLAN WHILE HISTORIC ZONING WOULD FORCE THEM TO DIVERT CRITICAL RESOURCES TO BUILDING MAINTENANCE INSTEAD OF THEIR MISSION.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS REQUEST IS BOTH APPROPRIATE AND NEEDED FROM A CITY PLANNING PERSPECTIVE WHILE DOWNTOWN IS THE OLDEST PART OF THE CITY.
IT IS ALSO ONE OF THE AREAS IN WHICH THERE IS A BROAD CONSENSUS THAT WE SHOULD DIRECT GROWTH AND INCREASE HOUSING IN ORDER TO MEET THE NEEDS OF CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE SLIDE THREE.
OUR TESTIMONY WILL ALSO ILLUSTRATE THESE THREE KEY FACTS.
FIRST, THE CASE IS NOT JUST ABOUT AN OFFICE STRUCTURE.
IT IS ABOUT AN ACTIVE ORGANIZATION WHOSE PROGRAMS AND GRANTS, SUPPORT WOMEN,
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EDUCATORS, AND STUDENTS AROUND THE WORLD.THIS CASE WILL HAVE A DIRECT AND MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THEIR HEALTH AND STABILITY AS AN ORGANIZATION WHILE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA HAS ENJOYED THEIR TIME IN THIS OFFICE STRUCTURE, IT DOES NOT DEFINE WHO THEY ARE.
DELTA KAPPA GAMMA'S LEGACY IS ONE OF WOMEN EDUCATORS WHO ORGANIZED TO SUPPORT OTHER WOMEN EDUCATORS.
THEY FILLED A CRUCIAL ROLE, PARTICULARLY AS MOST OTHER INSTITUTIONS, EITHER DICTATED TO WOMEN EDUCATORS OR IGNORED THEM.
DELTA KAPPA GAMMA STORY PREDATES THE SITE.
WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.
THEY WERE NOT FOUNDED AT THIS SITE.
IT WASN'T THEIR FIRST LOCATION OR EVEN THEIR SECOND LOCATION OR THEIR THIRD LOCATION OR THEIR FOURTH LOCATION.
THIS IS DELTA GAP KAPPA GAMMA'S FIFTH LOCATION, AND THEIR FOUNDER DIED OVER A DECADE BEFORE THEY RELOCATED HERE TODAY.
DELTA KAPPA GAMMA FACES A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES.
MEMBERSHIP HAS DECREASED SINCE ITS PEAK IN THE 1990S AND THE OFFICE BUILDINGS AGE, BUT PREVENTS THEM FROM RETROFITTING IT FOR NEWER TECHNOLOGIES AND IS FORCING THEM TO DIVERT CRITICAL RESOURCES TO MAINTENANCE.
HISTORIC ZONING WOULD LOCK IN THESE DISADVANTAGES AND STRIP DELTA KAPPA GAMMA OF THE FULL USE OF ONE OF ITS MOST IMPORTANT RESOURCES AT THIS CRITICAL, CRITICAL MOMENT IN THEIR LIFE.
I'M NOW GOING TO TURN IT OVER THE PRESENTATION TO MICHAEL GARDENY.
WE HAVE EVERYBODY IN ORDER CHAIR SO THAT WE CAN MOVE QUICKLY THROUGH THESE PRESENTATION.
WHEN YOU COME ON TO STATE YOUR NAME AND THEN GO READ INTO IT.
UH, MICHAEL GALVIN, YOU ON BEHALF OF DELTA KAPPA GAMMA, AS WAYLON WAS SAYING, UH, DELTA KAPPA GAMMA'S LEGACY IS MORE THAN JUST THEIR CURRENT OFFICE BUILDING DR.
ANDY WEBB, BLANTON FOUNDED DELTA KAPPA GAMMA IN 1929 ON THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS CAMPUS.
AS A WAY TO ORGANIZE WOMEN EDUCATORS, TO FIGHT GENDER DISCRIMINATION ADVOCATE FOR PRO-EDUCATION LEGISLATION AND SUPPORT OTHER WOMEN EDUCATORS THERE, DR.
BLANTON PASSED AWAY OVER A DECADE BEFORE THEY RELOCATED TO THIS SITE.
IF THIS LOCATION NEXT SIDE, PLEASE SIDE FIVE TODAY, AS YOU KNOW, FOUR 16 WEST 12TH STREET HAS NATIONAL REGISTER STATUS IN ARCHITECTURE STUDENT TOOK ON THIS EFFORT FOR CLASS PROJECT AND DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SAW IT AS A NATURAL FIT WITH THEIR MISSION TO EMPOWER WOMEN, STUDENTS, AND EDUCATORS.
THEY ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS SITE IS A KEY RESOURCE FOR THEIR ORGANIZATION AND WANTED TO ENSURE THAT NATIONAL REGISTER STATUS WOULD NOT END UP RESTRICTING YOUR PROPERTY.
THEY WERE TOLD THAT IT WOULD NOT IMPOSE ANY SUCH RESTRICTIONS THOUGH TODAY, THAT STATUS IS NOW A KEY JUSTIFICATION FOR DOING JUST THAT BY IMPOSING A HISTORIC ZONING DESIGNATION THAT WE TETHERED DELTA KAPPA GAMMA TO THEIR EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING.
AND NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE SLIDE SIX.
ULTIMATELY, WHEN LOOKING AT THE TWO DIFFERENT VISIONS FOR THIS SITE, WE BELIEVE THAT DOWNTOWN MIXED USE PROVIDE BETTER OUTCOMES, BOTH FOR DELTA KAPPA GAMMA AND FOR THE CITY.
AS A WHOLE, DMU IS A KEY COMPONENT IN DELTA KAPPA GAMMA STRATEGY TO REVITALIZE THE ORGANIZATION AND STRATEGICALLY TARGET THEIR RESOURCES.
IT WILL ALSO PROVIDE A DOWNTOWN PROJECTS THAT HELPS THE CITY MEET ITS HOUSING GOAL OF 135,000 NEW UNITS BY 2027.
AND IT WOULD DO SO TRUE TO DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM, WHICH THE CITY UTILIZES TO HELP FUND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR SOME OF BOSTON'S AND ITS VULNERABLE RESIDENTS.
THE PROJECT WOULD PROVIDE THIS ADDITIONAL HOUSING ALONG AN EXISTING METRO RAPID BUS LINE.
AND ALONG THE FUTURE, ORANGE AND BLUE RAIL LINES, THE TYPE OF TRANSPORT, A PROJECT THAT IS NEEDED TO ENSURE A ROBUST AND HEALTHY PUBLIC TRANSIT SYSTEM, DMU SUPPORTS ALL OF THESE ASPIRATIONS AND GOALS WHILE HISTORIC SENDING WOULD MAINLY SUPPORT THE STRUCTURAL PRESERVATION OF DELTA KAPPA GAMMA IS EXISTING OFFICE AND TETHERED THEM INTO ITS EXISTING BUILDING COSTS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE SLIDE SEVEN.
UH, THIS IS JUST TO RECAP, DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SUPPORTS WOMEN, EDUCATORS AND STUDENTS AROUND THE WORLD, BUT FACES A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES, INCLUDING THE INABILITY OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE TO BE EASILY RETROFITTED FOR MODERN TECHNOLOGIES, AS WELL AS ITS ESCALATING MAINTENANCE COSTS TO ADDRESS THESE CHALLENGES.
DELTA KAPPA GAMMA HAS REQUESTED DMU ZONING, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THEM TO REVITALIZE WHILE ALSO HELPING THE CITY NEED ITS HOUSING AND TRANSIT GOALS, HISTORIC ZONING, HOWEVER, WOULD RESTRICT THIS IMPORTANT RESOURCE AND LOCK IN LONG-TERM COSTS THAT THREATENED DELTA KAPPA GAMMA, HIS ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DELIVER ON ITS MISSION.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO CLAIRE WEINBERG WHO WILL DISCUSS THE PROJECT IN MORE DETAIL.
I'M CLAIRE WEINBERG PRINCIPAL WITH SCB ARCHITECTS ON THE SCREEN.
SLIDE ONE CONTEXT OF THE EXISTING BUILDING.
OUR VISION FOR THE PROJECT BEGINS BY UNDERSTANDING AND BEING INSPIRED BY THE DK MISSION OF COLLECTIVE GROWTH OF WOMEN, EDUCATE WOMEN, EDUCATIONAL LEADERS AND THE ASPIRATION OF THE MID-CENTURY MODERN STRUCTURE THAT SOUGHT SIMPLICITY AND FUNCTION AS
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ITS ETHOS, AS A MOD MODEST AND QUIET LARGELY ONE-STORY BETWEEN BUILDING ABOVE GRADE, THE CURRENT BUILDINGS ARCHITECTURE FOCUSED ON ITS INTERNAL FUNCTIONS, BUT LITTLE ENGAGEMENT WITH ITS NEIGHBORS OR CONTEXTS.OUR VISION FOR THE SITE BEGINS BY OPENING UP ANY NEW PROGRAM ELEMENTS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO CREATE A RESPITE OF THE SELECTION FOR THOSE WHO COME TO VISIT WHERE DKG HAS BEEN HOUSED, A SOFT GARDEN AND PLAZA SPACES TO PROVIDE FRIENDLIER CORNER OF ACTIVITY TO THE EXPANDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, OR JUST ONE OF THE FEW OF THE FEATURES THAT WE'RE SEEKING ON PAGE TWO, YOU'LL SEE JUST SOME IMAGES OF INSPIRATION OF THE MID-CENTURY MODERN, A LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE SEEKING THE GRACIOUSNESS OF BEAUTIFUL MATERIALS THAT OPEN UP TO THE SOFT GARDENS PLACES FOR GATHERING THAT LEADS TO THE ACTIVATION OF THE STREET GROUND FLOOR AND NEIGHBORHOOD, A ACTIVE GROUND FLOOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMEMORATIVE DK, COMMEMORATING PTQ MISSION AND HISTORY.
ON PAGE THREE, YOU BEGIN TO SEE, AND AT OUR ILLUSTRATION OF THE NEW PROGRAM FUNCTIONS, HOW THEY'RE ORGANIZED TO ALLOW FOR THIS NEW ENGAGEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE'RE SEEKING THE RESIDENTIAL ENTRY ON THE SAN ANTONIO SIDE, IT DISCREETLY DOING DROP OFF NEXT TO THE LOBBY AND THE LOADING AREA AND BACK OF HOUSE AREAS OFF THE ALLEY, ALLOWING FOR THE FOCUS ON BOTH SAN ANTONIO AND 12TH STREET TO REMAIN ON THE PEDESTRIAN ALONG 12TH STREET.
THERE'S ALSO THE INCLUSION OF THE DKG COMMEMORATIVE GARDEN NECESSARILY WITHIN GREEN WITH AN INGREDIENT PLANTED AREA.
IN ADDITION TO THE COMMEMORATIVE GARDEN OUTDOOR ROOM.
ANOTHER HIGHLIGHT OF THIS PLAN IS THE REUSE OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS MATERIAL THAT HAD BEEN INTEGRATED INTO THE NEW DESIGN, THE RED LINE WITHIN THE PLAN, THOSE STRAITS, THE EXTENSIVE USE OF THE EXISTING MASON RATES WITHIN THE PROMINENT AND PUBLIC AREAS OF THE NEW PROJECT.
THE EXISTING TEACHERS ARE CELEBRATED AND ARE A DEFINING FEATURE OF THE PUBLIC AND RETAIL SPACES.
ON PAGE FOUR, THE RENDERINGS BEGIN BEGIN TO SHOW PRIMARILY FIRST ON 12TH STREET, PICKING UP THE LANGUAGE OF THE DKG BUILDING, BUT THEN EMPHASIS ON HORIZONTAL ALIGNMENT WITH THE WALL AND OVERHANG, AND ALSO A GLAZED ENCLOSURE THAT ALLOWS US TO HIGHLIGHT THE REUSE OF THE EXISTING MATERIALS AND BROADCAST AND FOOD BACK TO THE OUTSIDE.
LASTLY, ON PAGE FIVE, YOU SEE THE, THE SAN ANTONIO SIDE WITH IT, EIGHT CASCADING NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMEMORATIVE STEPS, GARDEN AREAS, AND GRACIOUS RESIDENTIAL ENTRY FOR THE FEATURE RESIDENTS HERE.
YOU ALSO SEE THE CONTINUITY OF THE GARDEN, THE MALLS FROM 12TH STREET AND AN OVERHANG, UH, MAINTAINING THE DESIGN CONTINUITY FROM 12TH STREET TO SAN ANTONIO.
LASTLY, YOU SEE JUST AN OVERALL, UM, MASSING ILLUSTRATION OF A BUILDING, BUT THEN I TURN IT OVER TO THE OTHER SPEAKERS.
ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS BLEND UP HIGHLY AVAILABLE? I BELIEVE KELLY IS AVAILABLE FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS LATER ON.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD.
UH, AND GO AHEAD AND REQUEST THAT YOU PLEASE PLAY THE MARTIN VIDEO.
I AM FROM THE STATE OF ARKANSAS AND, UM, I AM A RETIRED HEALTH AND WELLNESS TEACHER.
I ALSO SPENT ABOUT SEVEN OF THOSE YEARS, COACHING GIRLS, BASKETBALL AND TRACK AND FIELD.
AND, UH, IN MY RETIREMENT, I HAVE FOUND MYSELF DOING, UH, QUITE A BIT OF VOLUNTEER WORK.
I BELIEVE THAT A CONTRIBUTION TO EDUCATION OR EDUCATORS IS BY EXTENSION A CONTRIBUTION TO ONE'S COMMUNITY.
I LIVE IN A RURAL STATE AND, UH, SO WE HAVE MANY, MANY SMALL SCHOOLS AND TOWNS AND COMMUNITIES THAT YOU KNOW, THEIR SCHOOLS OR THEIR HEARTBEAT.
AND, UM, ANY SUPPORT THAT DKG CAN GIVE THAT WILL KEEP AN EDUCATOR IN EDUCATION THAT WILL, THAT WILL JUST ENCOURAGE AN EDUCATOR, THAT THEY CAN DO THAT, THAT EXTRA THING THAT MAYBE THERE'S
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NO FUNDS FOR.IF THEY CAN GET THAT GRANT THAT WILL PUSH THEM OVER THAT HUMP OR THAT SCHOLARSHIP TO GET A HIGHER DEGREE TO BETTER THEMSELVES AND THEIR STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITIES BENEFIT FROM THAT IN NO SMALL WAY.
IT FEEDS BACK INTO THE COMMUNITIES OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE RECIPIENTS OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE OFFER, WHETHER IT'S LEADERSHIP OR GRANTS OR SCHOLARSHIPS OR SPEAKING OPPORTUNITIES OR WHATEVER IT IS, ANYTHING THAT, THAT ENRICHES THE LIFE OF A TEACHER OR A STUDENT IS GOING TO ENRICH THE LIFE IN THAT COMMUNITY.
WHEN YOU GO BACK ALL OF THE MAY MAJOR, WHEN WE WERE FOUNDED IN 1929, MANY, MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO AN INCREDIBLY LONG WAY TO GO.
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE KG IS STILL VERY RELEVANT.
UM, SO I HOPE THAT OUR FUTURE LOOKS LIKE CHANGE GROWTH AND CONTINUED FOCUS ON MEMBERS AND THE SUPPORT OF EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION AROUND THE WORLD.
DO WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER? HELLO? MY NAME IS HEATHER VULCANS.
I'D LIKE TO REQUEST THAT YOU PLEASE PLAY THE HEALTH IDEAS AND MARCIA KIRKLAND VIDEO.
YES, I AM, UH, BORN AND RAISED IN MEXICO IN MONTERREY, MEXICO.
I MOVED TO THE AUSTIN AREA WITH MY HUSBAND IN 2006 IN AUGUST, 2007.
I GOT MY FIRST TEACHING POSITION IN, UH, AUSTIN ISD AT WALNUT CREEK ELEMENTARY.
WHEN I LEARNED ABOUT THE DKG SUPPORT FOR EARLY CAREER PROGRAM MENTORING, UH, WAS, UM, MY VERY FIRST YEAR AT WALNUT CREEK, HAVING THE SUPPORT OF VACATE G ALLOW ME TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT I WAS ABLE TO DO.
I HAD ACCESS TO FEATURES THAT HAVE BEEN TEACHING FOR MANY YEARS, AND THAT WERE ABLE TO SHARE WITH ME INSTRUCTIONAL STRATEGIES THAT I COULD USE WITH MY STUDENTS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, HELPED ME BE SUCCESSFUL AT MY JOB.
AND, AND I DON'T THINK THAT MY CAREER WOULD HAVE TAKEN OFF THE WAY THAT IT DID, IF IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HER THAT, SO HAVING THAT SUPPORT SYSTEM ALONG THE WAY THAT VERY FIRST YEAR WAS CRUCIAL FOR ME TO, TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE ACHIEVED SO FAR BEING PART OF THE EKG HAS HAD AN AMAZING PERSONALLY IMPACT ON ME BECAUSE LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I MOVED TO AUSTIN IN 2006, SO I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONNECTIONS.
UH, SO THE EDUCATION WORLD BECAME PART OF MY FAMILY.
THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE MY GIRL.
THAT'S HOW I STARTED GETTING TO KNOW PEOPLE.
SO WHENEVER I STARTED BEING PART OF THIS GROUP AND, AND, AND IT GAVE ME THAT NETWORKING THAT I WAS NOT EVEN EXPECTING.
I MEAN, IF YOU ASK ME RIGHT NOW, I HAVE MET PEOPLE THAT I NEVER THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEET.
AND, AND NOT JUST ME THAT, OH, I SAW THEM ONCE.
IT'S PEOPLE THAT I HAD ACTUALLY MADE CONNECTIONS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS HELPED ME FEEL THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, DECIDING TO MOVE FROM MEXICO TO THE UNITED STATES WAS WORTH IT.
THE IDEA WAS WHY ARE THESE TEACHERS QUITTING? WELL, BECAUSE NOBODY HELPS THEM.
THE PRINCIPAL DOESN'T HAVE TIME.
THE COUNSELORS DON'T HAVE THAT.
SO LET'S ALL OF US, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCED TEACHERS START OUT.
ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT THE C PROGRAM HAS DONE, THE SUPPORT HAS MADE THOSE TEACHERS FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE SOMEBODY BEHIND THEM AND IF THEY CAN MAKE IT, IF YOU MAKE THOSE FIVE YEARS, WE SUPPORT YOU FOR FIVE YEARS, THEN YOU GOT, WE HAVE ANOTHER VIDEO COMING UP.
MY NAME IS
AND THAT DEGREE IN COMPUTER SCIENCE FROM UNIVERSITY OF ICELAND, 87.
SO I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN IT, EDUCATION ALL MY LIFE.
I WAS SO LUCKY TO BE OFFERED A PLACE IN THE LEADERSHIP SEMINAR.
THAT'S THE KIND OF WORK ON MY HOLES EVERY SECOND YEAR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS IN AUSTIN.
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AND IN THE TWO WEEKS COMPACT COURSE, MY LIFE CHANGED.I THEN DECIDED I WOULD DO EVERYTHING I COULD TO HELP THIS ORGANIZATION TO GROW AND ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOALS, TO EMPOWER YOUNG WOMEN, TO GROW AND BE BETTER LEADERS.
I'M THE FIRST STEP FOR SO MANY WOMEN TO GET THIS OPPORTUNITY TO STRENGTHEN YOUR SELF-ESTEEM.
YOUR CONFIDENCE IS VERY EMPOWERING SEEING Y'ALL OR WOMEN ANY AGE IN FURTHER EDUCATION, RECEIVING GRANTS AND GIVING BACK TO EDUCATION WORLDWIDE MAKES ME PROUD SEEING HOW MUCH MONEY WE SPEND ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THE HEADQUARTERS.
BAITING WAS MAUREEN OR THE FUTURE OR OUR SOCIETY.
WE EXIST ONLY ON DUES AND DONATIONS.
ALL OUR MONEY IS SPENT ON MAKING DIFFERENCE TO THE LIVES.
DECA G IS MORE THAN A BUILDING AND WE, THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO MOVE TO A MORE APPROPRIATE HOUSING.
WHAT I HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF PPG IS THAT WE CAN CONCENTRATE ON OUR VISION AND OUR GOALS AND ENCOURAGING WOMEN AND EMPOWER THEM, HELPING EDUCATE THIS TO MAKE THE FUTURE OF EDUCATION, PRIDE AND PROSPEROUS WORLDWIDE.
PLEASE PLAY THE WHITNEY SIMON VIDEO.
SO MY NAME IS WHITNEY SIMON, AND I'VE BEEN WITH UNICEF USA FOR THE PAST, ALMOST SIX YEARS.
PART OF OUR ONBOARDING IS THAT THE ORGANIZATION WORKS WITH THE INITIATIVES THAT THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD AND TO BKG WAS PRESENTED IN THAT ONBOARDING TRAINING.
UM, WEEK ONE WITH UNICEF USA, SIX YEARS AGO, THEIR INVESTMENT HAS BEEN USED TO SUPPORT ACTIVITIES, MAINLY IN THE AREAS OF LEARNING, UM, ACCESS TO RETENTION AND QUALITY PRIMARY SCHOOL, EDUCATION AND EMERGENCIES.
UM, AND IT'S SUPPORTED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WORKED TO BUILD SCHOOLS, FURNISH THOSE SCHOOLS, TRAIN TEACHERS, FACILITATE SCHOOL ACCESSES FOR DISTANCE DISADVANTAGED CHILDREN, UM, PROVIDE ACCESS TO CLEAN WATER, AND THEN ALSO PROVIDE THE SUPPLIES THAT THE CHILDREN NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL AND BE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT SPACE.
UM, THE AIM OF THE PROGRAM REALLY IS TO CREATE SYSTEMIC SUSTAINABLE CHANGE, UM, FIGURE THAT EDUCATION PATHWAY FOR CHILDREN ACROSS AFRICA, AND IT TARGETS VULNERABLE GROUPS SO THAT NO CHILD GETS LEFT BEHIND.
AND SO IT DKG HAS HELPED MOBILIZE THIS PROGRAM TO ACHIEVE THE VISION THAT IT HAS, WHICH IS ACCESS TO EQUITABLE EDUCATION ACROSS AFRICA.
WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP WITH DKG IN PARTICULAR IS THAT IT ILLUSTRATES THE POWER OF COLLECTIVE IMPACT WITH SUPPORT FROM THOUSANDS OF DKG MEMBERS FOR THIS PROGRAM, WE'VE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO BE THERE FOR COMMUNITIES WHEN IT'S NEEDED THE MOST.
UM, AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE THIS YEAR WHEN MILLIONS OF STUDENTS ACROSS AFRICA HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE CLASSROOM WITHOUT THAT CONSISTENT SUPPORT THAT THE EKG HAS PROVIDED OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST DECADE AND THOSE STUDENTS AND THEIR TEACHERS AND THEIR SCHOOLS AND OUR EDUCATION SYSTEMS MORE BROADLY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE SEAMLESS TRANSITION THAT THEY MADE TO REMOTE LEARNING, ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THAT TRANSITION HAS BEEN MADE THIS YEAR.
UM, SO IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY STRENGTHENED COMMUNITIES IN A WAY THAT, UM, THAT IS SUSTAINABLE.
AND, AND WE'RE HOPING TO SEE THAT CONTINUED SUSTAINABLE IMPACT ON THE LINE AS WELL.
I HOPE THAT EKG AND UNICEF CONTINUE TO, TO PRIORITIZE THAT SHARED COMMITMENT TO EDUCATION, TO SUPPORTING TEACHERS AND ENSURING AN EQUITABLE ACCESS ACCESS FOR STUDENTS ACROSS AFRICA.
UM, I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THAT WORK FOR YOU FOR DECADES AND WORTH OF FROM UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT WE'VE ALREADY HAD IN DECADES PRIOR.
UM, THE WORST ORGANIZATIONS CAN BE WELL POSITIONED TO ACHIEVE THAT SHARED VISION AND GOALS FOR THE CHILDREN GLOBALLY.
NEXT, WE HAVE NITA SCOTT, GOOD EVENING.
I'M BECKY SEBASTY INTERNATIONAL PRESIDENT OF THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY INTERNATIONAL, WHICH IS HEADQUARTERED HERE IN AUSTIN.
AND IT'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT FOUR 16 WEST 12TH
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STREET.WE'VE BEEN LOCATED HERE SINCE 1956.
I WILL START THE PRESENTATION AND THE NEXT SPEAKER NITA SCOTT WE'LL CONCLUDE FIRST SLIDE, PLEASE.
OUR HISTORY GOES BACK QUITE A BIT FURTHER THAN THE BUILDING WE'RE DISCUSSING TODAY, ALL THE WAY TO 1929.
ANNIE WETLAND A PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, ONLY THE THIRD FEMALE PROFESSOR EVER AT UT CALLED TOGETHER WOMEN EDUCATORS OF ALL TYPES TO FORM DELTA KAPPA GAMMA TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND WOMEN EDUCATORS EVERYWHERE.
BLANTON WAS ALREADY A TRAILBLAZER HAVING ONE STATEWIDE ELECTIVE OFFICE, THE FIRST WOMAN TO EVER DO SO AS SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND RUNNING FOR CONGRESS IN 1922, JUST TWO YEARS AFTER WOMEN RECEIVED THE RIGHT TO VOTE, ALTHOUGH SHE WAS NOT ELECTED, SHE WAS SATISFIED BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO SET AN EXAMPLE THAT WOMEN SHOULD RUN FOR ALL PUBLIC OFFICES.
THE FIRST MEETING OF THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY INTERNATIONAL THEN CALLED DELTA KAPPA GAMMA, AND NOW CALLED DKG WAS HELD IN SECRET AT 26, 10 WITNESS NEAR THE UT CAMPUS, WHICH WOULD BECOME THE FIRST HOME OF THE ORGANIZATION.
AND ATTENDANCE WERE SEVERAL WOMEN, OTHER WOMEN FROM AUSTIN, AS WELL AS OTHER PLACES ACROSS TEXAS.
THESE WOMEN WERE EDUCATORS AT ALL LEVELS OF EDUCATION, WHICH WAS INTENTIONAL BECAUSE DR.
BLANTON WANTED TO SUPPORT EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION AT ALL LEVELS.
THESE WOMEN BECAME ALONG WITH DR.
BLEND, THE FOUNDERS OF THE ORGANIZATION.
AT THIS FIRST MEETING AT 26 10 WITNESS, THE FOUNDERS PASSED DELTA KAPPA GAMMA'S FIRST CONSTITUTION.
THIS CONSTITUTION CALLED FOR THE GROUP TO AMONG OTHER THINGS, PROMOTE COOPERATION AMONG WOMEN EDUCATORS AND FOR DISTINCTIONS SECURE LEGISLATION FOR BETTER SCHOOLS AND JUST CONDITIONS FOR WOMEN SECURE, EQUAL REPRESENTATION AND RECOGNITION AND GIVE FINANCIAL AID TO WOMEN, PREPARING THEMSELVES TO BE TEACHERS.
THESE HAVE BEEN THE FOUNDING PRINCIPLES OF DKG EVER SINCE.
AFTER THAT INITIAL MEETING, DR.
BLANTON PUT OUT A CALL TO OTHER WOMEN EDUCATORS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT SHE ASKED HIM TO KEEP IT SECRET.
AND SHE EVEN USED A SYNONYM AND A PO BOX TO HIDE HER IDENTITY.
YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AT THIS TIME, IN MANY STATES, IF A FEMALE TEACHER MARRIED, SHE WOULD BE LET GO FROM HER JOB.
AND EVEN THOUGH SUFFRAGE HAD BEEN WON LIMITATIONS ON THE ROLES OF WOMEN CONTINUED BY HABIT AND CUSTOM DESPITE THIS, OR MAYBE BECAUSE OF IT, THE GROUP GREW QUICKLY HOLDING ITS FIRST NATIONAL CONVENTION.
ONLY A YEAR LATER IN 1930, I'M NITA SCOTT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY.
INTERNATIONAL NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
NUMBER EIGHT, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS AS THE ORGANIZATION GREW, IT MOVED TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ACROSS AUSTIN.
AS MENTIONED EARLIER, IT WAS THE FIRST HEADQUARTERS AT 20.
IT WAS FIRST HEADQUARTERED AT 26 10 WITH US.
THE HEADQUARTERS THEN MOVED INTO AN OFFICE AT THE LITTLE FIELD BUILDING, WHICH WAS ONE OF AUSTIN'S FIRST, A RISE BUILDINGS.
IT THEN MOVED TO 1309 RAZA STREET.
DURING THIS TIME, THE ORGANIZATION'S MEMBERSHIP AND REACH CONTINUED TO GROW.
IT GAINED MEMBERS FROM OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES AND AT ITS 1952 CONVENTION.
IT AMENDED ITS CHARTER TO BECOME AN INTERNATIONAL NONPROFIT AND ON JUNE 12TH, 1953, IT LEGALLY BECAME INTERNATIONAL IN SCOPE.
AND I THINK 56, DKG MOVED INTO ITS NOW CURRENT LOCATION AT FOUR 16 WEST 12TH STREET.
THIS WAS OUR FIFTH HEADQUARTERS LOCATION.
BLANTON HAD PASSED AWAY A NUMBER OF YEARS BEFORE AS HAD MOST OF THE OTHER FOUNDERS.
A FEW OF THEM DID ATTEND THE DEDICATION OF THE BUILDING AND FOUNDER LALA M ODOM HANDED THE KEY TO THEN PRESIDENT EDNA BOYD AND A CEREMONIAL PASSING OF THE TORCH TO THE NEXT GENERATION OF DKG LEADERS.
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NONE OF THE FOUNDERS EVER OFFICE AT WHAT IS NOW OUR HEADQUARTERS.SO AS YOU SEE MOST OF WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE HISTORY OF THIS ORGANIZATION HAPPENED PRIOR TO OCCUPYING THE 12TH STREET BUILDING.
WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE IS OF COURSE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OUR CURRENT WORK CONTINUES TO BUILD UPON THE VISION AND THE GOALS OF DR.
BLANTON AND ALL OF THE FOUNDERS.
WE CONTINUE TO WORK, NOT TO MAKE HISTORY, BUT TO SUPPORT WOMEN EDUCATORS EVERYWHERE.
IT IS OUR HOPE THAT YOUR DECISIONS TONIGHT WILL ALLOW US TO BUILD OUR FUTURE AND CONTINUE THE WORK BEGUN BY OUR FOUNDERS MANY DECADES AGO.
OUR ORGANIZATION, UH, FEMALE EDUCATORS BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, BUILT THIS BUILDING AND KEPT OUR EYES ON THE FUTURE.
WE REQUEST THAT YOU ALLOW US TO KEEP THE KG WORKING FOR WOMEN EDUCATORS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND VOTE AGAINST REZONING THIS PROPERTY HISTORIC AGAINST OUR WISHES.
THIS EVENING, THE SPEAKERS FOR ITEM 81.
[C2. 506 Congress Avenue (C.2a) and 610 Brazos Street (C.2b) – Discussion (Congress Avenue National Register Historic District and Sixth Street National Register Historic District) Council District 9]
ITEM C TWO, FIVE OR SIX COGNOS AVENUE AND SIX, 10 BRAZOS STREET.I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT MR. O'BRIEN IS HERE, BUT IF HE IS PLEASE GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.
O'BRIEN HAVE YOU GOT MICHELLE? I APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR SIX, 10 BROTHERS.
HOWEVER, I WANT TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE RECOMMENDED DENIAL FOR FIVE OH SIX CONGRESS FOR THE BACKUP PROVIDED IN THE AGENDA.
LEE BURNS DOCUMENT IS SPECIFIC TO MURALS ON HISTORIC BUILDINGS, AND THIS IS NOT A HISTORIC BUILDING REGARDING THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE DRAFT AND I'LL QUOTE THAT DRAFT THE MILWAUKEE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, DIRECTED STAFF TO DRAFT GUIDE GUIDELINES FOR THE INSTALLATION OF MURALS ON LOCALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE.
THIS PROPERTY IS NOT LOCALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC PROPERTY.
FURTHERMORE, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT IT IS IN AS A NATIONAL DISTRICT, NOT A LOCAL DISTRICT.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THESE TWO DOCUMENTS SHOULD BE USED AS BACKUP FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.
I HAVE A QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT.
MR. BLAND, I GUESS I'M, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THE BACKUP MATERIAL.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE ABOUT YOUR ROLE FOR BOTH OF THESE.
ARE YOU REPRESENTING ARTISTS? ARE YOU REPRESENTING OWNERS? HOW PLEASE, PLEASE.
JUST HELP, HELP CLARIFY WHAT, WHERE THIS HAS COME FROM A BUILDING OWNER.
SO YOU'RE YOU ACTUALLY ARE A BUILDING OUT REPRESENTING OWNERS OF BOTH THESE PROPERTIES, CORRECT? I SEE.
AND SO YOU HAVE SOLICITED THESE ART INSTALLATIONS ON YOUR OWN IN BOTH CASES.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
NO, I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP.
[C8. GF-2020-171489 – Offered for consent approval 1615 Waterston Avenue (West Line National Register Historic District) Council District 9]
ITEM C EIGHT 16, 15.THE APPLICANT DOMINIC HERE IS MR. DOMINIC HERE ON THE LINE? YES, I'M HERE.
OKAY, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR.
UH, IS THIS FOR 16, 15 WATERSON? YES.
D DO YOU YOU'RE UM, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
THIS IS FOR, UM, THE DEMOLITION OF THE CONTRIBUTING BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION OF SINGLE FAMILY BUILDING.
SO YEAH, I AM THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND WE, UM, ARE PROPOSING TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, UM, AND BUILD A NEW, UH, HOME THAT THE HOME WAS DESIGNED WITH.
UM, YOU KNOW, ATTEMPTING FROM THE WATERSTON SIDE TO MAINTAIN A SINGLE STORY ELEMENT AND BE VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF THE OTHER HOUSES ON THE STREET.
AND THEN AS THE LOT SLOPES OFF TO THE BACK HAVE, UM, SOME MORE TWO-STORY LIVING BEHIND IT.
UM, AND SO I LIKE TO THINK THE ARCHITECTURE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF AND WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
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HAVE YOU CONSIDERED RETAINING THE HISTORIC BUILDING AND MAKING AN ADDITION TO THE REAR? IT'S REALLY NOT IN A CONDITION THAT IS WORTH MAINTAINING.I AM TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE TO RELOCATE THE BUILDINGS, BUT HAVE YET TO COME ACROSS ANYONE IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS IT'S DRYER.
IT'S A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING TO THIS DISTRICT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION OF THIS APPLICANT HEARING NONE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION SIGNED UP? NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP.
IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION? NOPE.
[C9. GF-2020-171512 – Discussion 1517 Murray Lane (Old West Austin National Register Historic District) Council District 9]
C NINE 15, 17.UM, DAVID WEBER IS ALSO GOING TO SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF.
UM, IT JUST A FEW COMMENTS FROM ME.
I'M HERE ON THE COMPANY WITH MY WIFE, JACKIE.
WE REALLY THANK THE COMMISSION FOR THEIR TIME TODAY, WHERE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT 1517 MARY LANE.
UM, FIRST A BIT OF BACKGROUND.
WE HAVE BEEN IN AUSTIN FOR OVER 10 YEARS.
WE'VE RESTORED A NUMBER OF HOUSES, THE HISTORIC WORKER'S COTTAGE IN AUSTRALIA, AND TWO HOUSES IN AUSTIN.
THE LATEST WAS A FUR AND RANGER MID CENTURY MODERN HOME ON MOUNT BONNELL, WHICH WE ALSO WORKED WITH DAVID WEBER ON AND DAVID WEBER.
AND I JUST INCIDENTALLY HAD ALSO DONE A RESTORATION OF AN 1890 BUILDING IN HOW-TO.
THE REASON I PROVIDE THIS BACKGROUND IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT PRESERVING THE HISTORIC IS ACTUALLY OUR PROCLIVITY AND OUR DESIRE.
WE'VE NEVER DONE A DEMOLITION, AS YOU RECALL, FROM OUR APRIL SUBMISSION.
WHEN WE CAME TO THIS ADDRESS AS WELL, WE LIKED THE CHARM OF THE HOUSE AND THE CHARM OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WORKED FOR MONTHS AND THROUGH SEVERAL DESIGN ITERATIONS.
AND IN FACT SPENT QUITE A BIT OF MONEY TO PRESERVE AND BUILD ON THE CURRENT STRUCTURE.
BUT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE REALIZED THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL ISSUES.
IF WE WERE TO ADD A SECOND FLOOR BASED ON THE SPACE, WE NEEDED THE VISUAL CONNECTION WITH THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE DESIRE CANNOT BE CREATED WITHOUT BASICALLY REPLACING THE ENTIRE ROOF STRUCTURE.
OUR DESIRE FOR THIS CONNECTION WAS PRIMARILY FOR SECURITY, BUT ALSO FOR LIGHT FURTHER, IF WE HAD GONE WITH OUR ORIGINAL PLAN TO PRESERVE THE TOP RIDGE OF THE ROOF, WE WOULD HAVE ALMOST TOTALLY BLOCKED WIDE FROM OUR BACKYARD, REDUCING DRAMATICALLY, OUR ABILITY TO ENJOY OUR OWN PROPERTY.
WE ALSO FACED THE ISSUE THAT MOST, THAT A GREAT DEAL OF THE DEMOLITION WAS IN THE BACK, UM, AND PROBABLY WOULD HAVE HAPPENED EITHER WAY.
UM, MOST OF THE BACK WAS A LATER AND, AND RELATIVELY UNSYMPATHETIC EXTENSION, BUT WE WERE STILL CONCERNED.
AND WE, AS WE CHANGED, COURSE, WE THOUGHT LONG AND HARD ABOUT WHAT DOES THIS HOUSE CONTRIBUTE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD? AESTHETICALLY, UM, AS MANY OF, YOU KNOW, MURRAY LANE AS AN INCREDIBLY ECLECTIC COLLECTION OF HOUSES, SOME ARE NEW BUILDS, ALMOST ALL ARE DIFFERENT DESIGNS.
UM, SO WE CAN INCLUSION THAT THIS HOUSE SPECIFICALLY DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE THAT MUCH INDIVIDUALLY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AESTHETIC.
AND THEN FINALLY COMING TO THIS CONCLUSION, UM, AS, AS DAVID WILL LAY OUT, WE ASKED OURSELVES WHAT DESIGN WOULD NOT STAND OUT TOO MUCH, BUT WOULD COMPLIMENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, REACH BACK INTO OUR PERSONAL HISTORY AND TO DESIGN THAT WE THOUGHT WERE TIMELESS AND WOULD FIT NICELY INTO THE AESTHETIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
JACKIE, MY WIFE IS FROM AUSTRALIA.
I LIVED THERE FOR A TIME AND MET HER THERE AND WE FELL IN LOVE WITH THE CLASSIC AUSTRALIAN TERRORISTS OUT THROUGH DAVID WEBER'S EYES, OUR ARCHITECT.
THIS IS A MOLDED TO BRING IN THAT CONCEPT INTO FIT NICELY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE AS WELL.
AND, UH, IS DAVID WEBBER ON THE YES, UH, I'M HERE NOW.
HI, DAVID WEBER FROM WEBER STUDIO ARCHITECTS, AND I THINK, UH, JOSH LAID OUT, UH, SOME OF THE KEY POINTS WE WANTED TO MAKE, UM, MORE THAN ANYTHING.
AND I'LL JUST EMPHASIZE THAT THE, THE DESIGN IS STILL UNDERGOING WE'RE STILL EARLY IN THE PROCESS AND WE'RE STILL UNDERGOING SOME DESIGN, MODIFICATIONS AND TWEAK.
AND WE DO HAVE EVERY INTENTION, UH, I THINK ON JANUARY 4TH TO MEET WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TO TALK THROUGH THE CURRENT DESIGN, UH, THE CONCEPT FOR IT AND, AND, UH, UH, LEARN SOME RESPONSES FROM THE COMMITTEE ON, UH, WAYS WE CAN FINE TUNE THE DESIGN TO MAKE IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT STILL WORK, UH, FOR JACKIE AND JOSH.
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BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY OF INTEREST ABOUT THE, UH, AUSTRALIAN TERRACE HOUSES IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A SIMILAR FORMAT TO A LOT OF TERRACE HOUSES THAT YOU SEE IN, UM, A LOT OF, UH, NORTHEASTERN CITIES THAT ARE MORE URBAN, UH, AND WERE MORE URBAN FOR A LONG TIME, WHICH IS, UH, AS WE ALL KNOW WHAT, UH, CENTRAL AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS, WHERE MURRAY LANE IS LOCATED, JUST STARTING TO BECOME MORE OF.AND OF COURSE, WHEN THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT ORIGINALLY, IT WAS A ONE-STORY HOUSE.
UH, IT WAS MORE, UM, IT WAS LESS URBAN IN NATURE.
SO TO, TO FIT A LARGER HOUSE THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE, UH, ON THIS INTER, UH, INNER CITY LOT, WE REALLY NEEDED TO LOOK AT GOING UP TO TWO STORIES AND THAT PROMPTED US TO LOOK AT, UM, UH, MORE OF A TERRACE HOUSE SORT OF FORMAT.
UH, ANOTHER THING OF INTEREST IN THE SOUTHEAST, THERE ARE OTHER SORT OF, UH, UH, CLASSICAL PLAN FORMATS THAT YOU SEE IN CITIES LIKE SAN ANTONIO AND NEW ORLEANS THAT WE WANTED TO REACH TO THAT ARE NOT TOO DISSIMILAR TO THE HERITAGE THAT JACKIE ALSO BRINGS FROM HER AUSTRALIAN UPBRINGING.
AND SO WE LOOKED AT THOSE PRECEDENTS TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN THAT WE FELT LIKE WAS COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT IS REGIONALLY, UM, UH, COMMON, BUT ALSO, UH, IMPORTANTLY HAS THESE PAIR OF SIDEWALLS, UH, ON THE DESIGN SO THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR VIEWS LOOKING TOWARDS THE FRONT YARD IN THE BACKYARD, WHICH IS REALLY, UH, HOW TO MAINTAIN PRIVACY ON THESE INNER CITY.
LOTS THAT ARE BECOMING MORE, UH, JUST MORE BUILT OUT.
UM, THERE IS A TWO CAR GARAGE ON THE FRONT THAT WAS, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEEDED TO TRY AND WEAVE INTO THE DESIGN.
NONE OF US LIKE TO SEE A TWO CAR GARAGE ON THE FRONT.
SO THAT IS PART OF THE REASON WE TRIED TO THINK OF THIS AS ALMOST, UH, A PAIR OF TOWNHOMES OR WHAT THEY CALL TERRACE HOUSES IN AUSTRALIA, BUT IT'S REALLY ESSENTIALLY LIKE A ROW HOUSE TO SOME DEGREES.
WE TRIED TO THINK OF THIS DESIGN AS BEING LIKE TWO SLENDER HOUSES, UH, ONE THAT'S TWO-STORY AND MORE PROMINENT, AND IS THE MAIN LIVING SPACE.
AND THE OTHER ONE THAT CONTAINS THE GARAGE THAT STAYS A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCREET.
SO WE WERE THINKING VERY CAREFULLY ABOUT THE BASIC FUNCTIONS, WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THIS HOUSE, LOOKING TO A LOT OF, UH, HISTORICAL ANTECEDENTS, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESIGN PROCESS AND LOOKING AT A HOUSE THAT REPRESENTS 20, 21 AT THE SAME TIME THAT IT DRAWS IN A LOT OF THIS HISTORICISM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING OUR DISCUSSION TODAY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS FINE.
SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION, JORDAN.
MY NAME'S JORDAN STEIKER AND MY SPOUSE, LORI HOLLERAN AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE PROPOSED DEMOLITION REBUILD OF 1517 MURRAY LANE.
THE CURRENT BUNGALOW STYLE HOME AS THE STAFF REPORT REFLECTS RETAINED HIGH INTEGRITY AND IS ASSOCIATED WITH AN IMPORTANT AUSTIN FIGURE.
WILLIAM MORLEY, WHO IN TURN IS CONNECTED TO HENRY WE'RE PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EFFECT OF THE NEW PLANS ON OUR HISTORIC HOME.
THE JUDGE DAVID AND BIRDIE PICKLE HOME 15, 15 MURRAY WAYNE, WHICH HAS HISTORIC PROTECTION VIA THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS HOUSE LIKE THE MORLEY HOME WAS BUILT IN THE 1920S.
THEY WERE ACTUALLY BUILT IN THE SAME YEAR IN 1928.
OUR HOME IS BUILT ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THAT.
OUR PROPERTY AS IS THEIRS, BUT THEY PROPOSE TO RAISE THAT HOME AND BUILD IT ON THE EASTERN EDGE SO THAT THE UNIQUE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF OUR HOUSE WITH ITS ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURAL GLASS WILL NO LONGER BE VISIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.
INSTEAD, OUR DINING ROOM UPSTAIRS STUDY AND KITCHEN WILL FACE A TWO-STORY WALL NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY.
AND THE BEAUTIFUL TUTOR FEATURES OF OUR HOME WILL BE PERMANENTLY OBSCURED.
THE BEST VIEW OF OUR HISTORIC HOME FOR THE COMMUNITY IS ON THE STREET FROM THE WEST WORKING EAST.
AND THAT YOU WILL BE DESTROYED.
I'VE SHARED USE WITH ANGELA, GOT THAT, THAT SHOW THE WESTERN FACE OF MY PROPERTY.
IT WOULD BE ODD IF THEY COULD BUILD A STRUCTURE THAT OBSCURES PARTS OF OUR HOUSE, BUT THE CITY INSPECTS EVERY YEAR AS PART OF ITS HISTORIC DESIGNATION, WE DON'T THINK A HISTORIC PROPERTY SHOULD BE TORN DOWN TO BUILD A MODERN STYLE HOME, WHICH HAS BEEN REPOSITIONED ON THE PROPERTY TO UNDERMINE THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.
THE PROJECT WILL UNDERMINE TWO HISTORIC PROPERTIES, NOT JUST ONE.
IF THEIR PLANS ARE APPROVED, OUR TWO HOUSES WILL BE THE ONLY PROPERTIES ON THE STREET WHERE THE HOUSES WOULD SIT RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER ON THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH WOULD UNDERMINE THE AESTHETICS OF THE STREET AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I SHOULD ALSO ADD THAT THE OWNER'S ORIGINAL PLANS WERE SIMPLY TO ADD ONTO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY,
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WHICH WOULD PRESERVE THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THEIR HOME AND NOT INTERFERE WITH THE VIEW OF OUR PROPERTY.ON THAT PREMISE, THEY REMOVED TWO MATURE TREES FROM THEIR BACKYARD, AND AFTER THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, WE DID NOT OBJECT THAT WE WERE SURPRISED THEY WERE COMMITTED TO DO SO BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THE REMOVAL WAS ESSENTIAL TO THEIR REBUILDING PROJECT.
WE NOW LEARN THAT THEY PROPOSE TO PUT A POOL WHERE THOSE TWO TREES WERE.
UM, SO THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY PROPOSING TO REMOVE MATURE TREES AND A HISTORIC HOME FROM A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT THEY CAN BUILD A MODERN HOME ON A DIFFERENT PART OF A LOT AND PUT IN A POOL.
WE THINK IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE STANDARDS GOVERNING THE COMMISSION AND SHOULD THEREFORE BE DENIED.
I SHOULD ALSO NOTE THAT WE ONLY BECAME AWARE OF THESE PLANS YESTERDAY WHEN THEY WERE APPEARING ON THE WEBSITE BECAUSE JACKIE AND JOSH DID NOT SHARE THEM WITH US.
WAS IT JUSTIN? OH, I JUST WANT, THIS IS LORI HOLLERAN.
UH, AND I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS AND THE COMMENTS OF MY HUSBAND.
I'M A MUCH MORE EMOTIONAL PERSON ABOUT THIS, AND I HAVE A VISCERAL REACTION TO THE, UM, THE RENDERINGS OF THE NEW HOME, UM, AND MY, UM, BEING CLOSE TO, UM, SUZANNE AND BOB, I HAVE SOME VERY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THE HISTORICAL RELEVANCE AND THE PERSONAL RELEVANCE OF THE HOME.
SO I JUST WANT TO ADD THE EMOTIONAL PIECE AND SAY THAT I'M HEARTBREAKING THE THOUGHT OF A MODERN HOME IN THAT PLACE.
THE APPLICANT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL.
HI, THIS IS DAVID WEBER FROM WEBER STUDIO.
AGAIN, I'VE BEEN ASKED BY JACKIE AND JOSH TO RESPOND TO, UM, UH, THE COMMENTS WE JUST HEARD.
SO, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS, UM, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT AND, UH, REMIND, UM, UH, THE, UH, OUR NEIGHBORS, THAT CITY CODE ACTUALLY PROTECTS THEIR SITE, UH, MORE THAN THEY MAY BELIEVE.
FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A SIDEWALL ARTICULATION, UH, REQUIREMENT WITH THE SUBCHAPTER F AND THERE'S ALSO A CRITICAL ROOT ZONE.
THAT'S GOING TO FORCE THE SIDE OF, OF THE NEW DESIGN TO STILL REMAIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE AWAY FROM THEIR HOUSE.
WELL, THERE ISN'T AN OBLIGATION TO PRESERVE THE VIEWS OF A SIDE OF A HOUSE BECAUSE CODE DOES ALLOW US TO BUILD WITHIN FIVE FEET OF A PROPERTY LINE.
UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PULLING THE HOUSE AWAY JUST TO MEET THESE OTHER OBLIGATIONS, WHICH WE ARE OBVIOUSLY PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH BECAUSE IT WOULD PROTECT A PECAN MATURE PECAN TREE ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
AND IT WOULD GIVE US A SIDEWALL ARTICULATION THAT WE KNOW AS DESIRABLE IN SUBCHAPTER F UH, IT HAPPENS TO CREATE A LOVELY LITTLE COURTYARD.
WE HAVE DONE, UH, UH, AN OVERLAY OF THE NEW DESIGN WITH THE ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE, SO WE CAN DEMONSTRATE, UH, I, UH, IT'LL, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE OR WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
UH, WE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT WHILE THE HOUSE IS INDEED CLOSER TO THEIR HOUSE, UH, IT'S NOT QUITE AS FAR AWAY FROM THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT AS THEY BELIEVE.
AND WHEREAS WE ARE BUILDING SOME NEW HOUSE, UH, SOMEWHAT, UH, SOME OF THE NEW HOUSE IS INDEED CLOSER TO THEIR HOUSE.
IT IS ALSO WITH THE REMOVAL OF A VERY UNSIGHTLY CARPORT.
IT'S BUILT, UH, OUT OF COMPLIANCE IN THE BACK CORNER, CLOSEST TO THEIR PROPERTY, UM, OF OUR PROPERTY AS WELL.
SO THOSE, UM, THOSE WE HOPE WILL OFFSET SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT, UH, THEY HAVE RAISED.
UH, WE STILL THINK THAT THE HOUSE HAS A LOT OF SPACE BETWEEN IT AND THE NEW DESIGN.
UM, BUT I, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT EVEN CITY CODE, EVEN IF WE, IN OUR PREVIOUS DESIGN, WE HAD BEEN LOOKING AT A DESIGN THAT IN FACT WAS CLOSER TO THE ADJACENT HOUSE WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO PRESERVE THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL, UH, HISTORIC, UH, MORE HISTORIC PART OF THE HOUSE.
UM, UH, JUST BECAUSE THAT WAS WHERE WE WERE FORCED TO BUILD IN THAT PREVIOUS DESIGN.
THE LAST THING I'LL POINT OUT IS WE REALLY DID SPEND A LOT OF SEVERAL MONTHS AND MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON THE PART OF JACKIE AND JOSH TO INVESTIGATE TRYING TO KEEP THIS HOUSE.
IT WAS OUR INTENT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING TO MAKE USE OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.
AND, UH, I, I LIKE TO THINK THAT WE'RE GOOD ARCHITECTS, AND WE CAN DO THAT.
BUT THE REAL ISSUE IS JUST HAVING A VIEW AND EXPOSURE TO THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, UH, WITHOUT UBER SHADING, THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD DO THAT WAS IN A WAY THAT WAS
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GOING TO REMOVE THE ROOF AND THEREFORE RENDER THE EXISTING HOUSE, UM, NO LONGER CONTRIBUTING IN THE FIRST PLACE.UM, SO WE'RE REALLY VERY SADDENED BY THAT.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I TAKE VERY LIGHTLY.
WE, WE DON'T LIKE TO REMOVE HOUSES AT ALL IF WE CAN AVOID IT.
UH, AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A BIT OF, A BIT OF A GUT WRENCHING DECISION FOR JACKIE AND JOSH TO ULTIMATELY HAVE TO MAKE.
AND WE'RE SAD TO HAVE TO ASK FOR THIS TODAY, BUT WE, UM, BUT I THINK WE ALL HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE USE OF THE PROPERTY THE WAY THEY WANT TO.
AND I'LL, LET'S GO ONTO THE NEXT ITEM.
[C11. GF-2020-180133 – Offered for consent approval 1510 Palma Plaza (Old West Austin National Register Historic District) Council District 9]
1115, 10 PALM PLAZA.HELLO? YES, THIS IS JOHN MEYER.
I'M THE, UH, OWNER AT 15, 10 PAMA PLAZA.
UH, WE ARE, UH, REQUESTING FOR A DEMO PERMIT TODAY.
IF WE GO TO A PRESENTATION SLIDE, NUMBER ONE IS THE TABLE OF CONTENTS SLIDE NUMBER TWO.
UH, WE CONSIDERED THE, UH, THE FIVE CRITERIA OR MEETING A HISTORIC ROSE, UH, DESIGNATION, AND DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WE MET SUFFICIENTLY ENOUGH ON ANY TWO OF THOSE TO WARRANT, UM, YOU KNOW, KEEPING THE HOUSE, THE, UH, UH, THE STAFF DID, UH
UH, WE'RE NOT SURE IF THEY REACHED THE, THE LEVEL OF, UH, OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UH, ON THE, ON THE COMMUNITY VALUE.
THE, THERE, THERE IS AN ELECT, AN ECLECTIC ARRAY OF DESIGNS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW THIS PROPERTY THAT HAPPENS TO BE SITUATED ON PALMER PLAZA WITHIN EISAI.
YOU CAN SEE A VARIETY OF USES, EVEN THERE'S COMMERCIAL THERE'S MULTIFAMILY.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A VARIETY OF, OF RESIDENTIAL DESIGN.
SO WE REALLY WEREN'T ABLE TO SORT OF DRILL DOWN, DRILL DOWN ON A, ON A PROPERTY CHARACTERISTIC OR A SIGNIFICANT FEATURE THAT REALLY, UH, MET, UH, THE THRESHOLD THERE.
AND, UH, OF COURSE, WITH REGARD TO LANDSCAPING, THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL TREE IN THE FRONT OF THE YARD.
THAT'S A NO, NO WAY PLAY ANY PLAY IN IT.
IT'S GOING TO BE VERY EASILY TO PRESERVE THE, UM, LARGE TREES IN THE FRONT YARD, UH, ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
UH, AND IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THIS PROPERTY MIGHT'VE BEEN UP FOR A DEMOLITION A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE.
UH, IT MAY HAVE EVEN, UH, COME BEFORE THE, UH, LANDMARK COMMISSION AND OH SIX, UH, THERE WAS A DEMO PERMIT GRANTED, AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE GRANTED IN OH SEVEN, UM, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY JUST LET THEM EXPIRE AND THEY NEVER MOVED FORWARD WITH THE, WITH THE DEMOLITION.
SO SLIDE, UH, THREE AND FOUR JUST ILLUSTRATE THE PREVIOUS, UH, DEMOLITION PERMITS THAT WERE ISSUED ON THE PROPERTY, UH, WITH REGARD TO TRYING TO PRESERVE THE BUILDING OR MOVE THE BUILDING.
UH, THOSE WERE THE FIRST THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT, UM, TO SEE IF THERE WAS A WAY TO JUST SIMPLY ADD ONTO THE BUILDING OR KEEP SOME PORTION OF IT.
UM, I'VE DONE SEVERAL HISTORIC RESTORATIONS, UH, AROUND THE COUNTRY OVER YEARS AND, UH, FIGHTING TO KEEP IT, WE, WE TRIED TO DO THAT, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THIS PROPERTY WAS BUILT OUT OF MOST TUBA FOURS, UM, WHICH ISN'T ALL THAT UNCOMMON.
WHEN, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A WALL OR AN EXTERIOR WALL OR INTERIOR WALL IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THE ROOF STRUCTURE IS BUILT OUT OF TWO BY FOURS.
AND WHEN YOU, WHEN WE INSPECTED THE ATTIC OR HAD AN ENGINEER, LOC STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS DO AN INSPECTION, WE DISCOVERED THERE WASN'T A GREAT DEAL OF SUPPORT IN THE ATTIC EITHER.
SO THERE, THERE IS A LOT OF SAGGING AND, AND, UH, SWAYING IN THE, IN THE ROOF, UH, STRUCTURE, MR. MEYER, I THINK YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.
CAN YOU PLEASE WRAP UP IN A SENTENCE? UH, SO AT ANY RATE, THE COST TO TRY TO KEEP THE BUILDING, UH, WOULD FAR OUTWEIGH ANY ADVANTAGE WE MIGHT GET FROM IT.
SO, UH, THE BEST PLAN WOULD BE TO, UH, DEMOLISH IT AND IN OUR PLAN SHOWS
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THE NEW BUILDING WE'D PUT IN ITS PLACE, WHICH TO A GREAT DEAL PRESERVES, KIND OF WHAT WAS THERE.UH, ONE OF THE OWNERS WOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY AND, UH, I'M JUST CALLING IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED DEMOLITION.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT OF THE DEMOLITION? NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP IN FAVOR, BUT WE DO HAVE AN OPPOSITION.
MY NAME IS ROSEMARY MERRIAM AND I'M WITH OLD WEST AUSTIN, UM, ZONING COMMITTEE.
UM, THE GENERAL, THE MEYERS CAME AND SPOKE TO US.
AND, UM, ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LIKE WHAT THEY HAD PLANNED.
I, AFTER READING THE STAFF NOTES ON 15, 10 PALMER PLAZA, I WAS WONDERING, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT THE COMMISSION VOTE TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL AT LEAST NEXT MONTH IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, THERE HAS BEEN SOME INTERESTING, UM, HISTORICAL INFORMATION BROUGHT UP ON THE OSBOURNES IN THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO AUSTIN DURING THE 20 YEARS THAT THEY LIVED THERE.
SO I THINK, AND DEBBIE WOULD BEHOOVE US TO JUST WAIT A MONTH BEFORE WE PUT OUT A DEMO OR ANYTHING ELSE.
AND SO WE CAN FURTHER, UM, INVESTIGATE THE POSSIBILITIES THAT CONTRIBUTING HOUSING COULD BE HISTORIC LANDMARK.
AND I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT DOING THIS AT CHRISTMAS TIME IS GOING TO DISADVANTAGE THE, UM, THE OWNERS BECAUSE NOT MUCH HAPPENS AT CHRISTMAS.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, I WOULD URGE THE, UM, THE COMMISSION TO SUPPORT THEIR STAFF REPORT AND PHONE, UM, THE DEMO MS. MIRIAM, CAN YOU SHARE THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU FOUND WITH THE STAFF? PARDON? CAN YOU SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH US? WELL, I THINK IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, I'M NOT SEEING THE INFORMATION ON THIS ONE IN THE BACKUP, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING, UH, HOW MANY UNITS OF HOUSING IS IN THE, ON ON-SITE CURRENTLY AND HOW MANY ARE IN THE PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTION? I BELIEVE LAST TIME WE SAID THERE WERE THREE UNITS IN THE CURRENT BUILDING, AND I THINK THERE ARE TWO PROPOSE FOR THE, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION.
I THINK THE BUILDING ORIGINALLY WAS A DUPLEX AND THEY ADDED A KIND OF AD HOC UNIT ON THE BACK OF IT.
AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS ANOTHER DUPLEX.
IT WAS MORPHED INTO A MULTIFAMILY UNIT AND WE'D LIKE TO BUILD A DUPLEX BACK IN ITS PLACE.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN OPPOSITION OF ANGELA? NO ONE ELSE HAS SIGNED UP AN OPPOSITION, BUT THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A REBUTTAL, MR. MEYER? UH, SURE.
UH, I CAN SAY, I CAN SAY THE POINT OF VIEW SO FAR IS JUST THE HOLIDAYS, AND IT SEEMS AS THOUGH NOT A LOT HAPPENED, BUT IT WOULD JUST TIME STILL DOES GO ON.
SO IF WE COULD GET THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE DEMO, THEN IN JANUARY, WE'D LIKE TO COME BACK WITH A FULL SET OF PLANS TO SHOW.
I UNDERSTAND THE DEMO WOULD BE SUBJECT TO, SO IN JANUARY, WE'D LIKE TO BRING A FULL SET OF PLANS TO GET APPROVAL FOR APPLYING FOR A BUILDING PERMIT.
AND THEN WE CAN START THAT THAT'S BEEN A CAN.
[D2. HDP-2020-0400 – Offered for consent approval 1400 Drake Avenue Council District 9]
1400 DRAKE IS THE APPLICANT MARK AARON ONE, IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE OPPOSITION.I SERVE AS THE PRESERVATION CHAIR FOR SOUTH RIVER CITY CITIZENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRICE OF ABOUT 5,008 HOUSEHOLDS.
FRCC VOTED TO OPPOSE DEMOLITION OF 1400 DRAKE AVENUE AS MEMORIALIZED IN A LETTER SENT TO YOU BY OUR ACTING PRESIDENT
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NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT MARK EIGHT, HER NO LONGER OWNS HIS PROPERTY AND TWO CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES TO OUR NEW TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.AS A RESIDENT, I OBSERVED A DISTURBING TREND OF DEVELOPERS ASKING FORMER OWNERS TO APPLY FOR DEMOLITION.
AT LEAST MICHAEL WHALEN OFFERED PROPOSED PLAN FOR THE DELTA CAM.
I TAUGHT THE GAMMA'S SOCIETY'S PROPERTY, WHICH RIGHTFULLY ALARMS NEIGHBORING PROPERTY THAT A BEHEMOTH MULTI-CAR BUILDING WOULD BE BUILT.
AND IT'S CLAY IN CONTRAST, THE OWNERS OF 1400 DRAKE AVENUE, MORE TATE HAS NOT REACHED OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SHARE THE PROPOSED PLANS FOR NEW STRUCTURE, A PERMIT SEARCH, ONLY NOTES, A DEMOLITION WITH NO PLANS TO MOVE THE HOUSE NOTED AS IN INTACT TO PROVIDE SHELTER TO ANOTHER.
AND THEN MR. WAYLON OFTEN DOESN'T NEED MORE HOUSING DOWNTOWN.
AND IN THE URBAN CORE, WHICH OFTEN SERVES A SECOND HOMES ARE INVESTMENTS FOR THE WEALTHY, INCLUDING MANY NON AUSTIN, AUSTIN NEEDS MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE URBAN CORE, THE GRUDGE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR SELLING FOR TOP DOLLAR.
MY QUESTION WOULD DELTA KAPPA GAMMA AND THE OWNER OF 1400 DRAKE AVENUE, REALLY NET MORE PROCEEDS BY SELLING THESE PROPERTIES AS SCRAPERS, WHICH THE DEVELOPERS WILL ATTEMPT TO MAXIMIZE WITH THE TALLEST BIGGEST PROPERTY THAT THE LAW OR THEIR LOBBYISTS VARIANCE REQUESTS ALLOW OFTEN PLACING THEIR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR AND THEIR SHADOW.
COULDN'T THESE PROPERTY OWNERS FIND BUYERS.
WE WANT THE PROPERTIES AS THEY ARE.
THEY MIGHT, IF THE PROPERTY TAX BURDEN WEREN'T SO HIGH.
I HAD A LONG TALK WITH MR.
HE WAS INTERESTED IN OUR NEW HISTORIC DISTRICTS, POTENTIAL TAX INCENTIVES FOR LANDLORDS ALSO FOR CONVERTING THE GARAGE INTO AN ADU THAT WOULD PROVIDE TWO RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE RENTALS ON DRAG DRAKE AVENUE.
HIS FIRST QUESTION LIKE SO MANY INVESTORS HAVE ASKED ME WHAT ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAXES AND CURRENTLY IN DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY OF BOSTON ABOUT PROPOSED INCENTIVES FOR LANDLORDS TO CREATE 80 USE OR ADU CONVERSIONS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNTIL PRIVATE LANDLORDS GET TAX ABATEMENT, WHICH DEVELOPERS RECEIVE WHEN BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEMOLITIONS WILL CONTINUE.
WE HAVE SIX PROPOSED DEMOLITIONS IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS TODAY.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR, I HAVE A QUESTION.
ARE YOU SUGGESTING, DOES MICHAEL WHALEN HAVE A CONNECTION TO THESE BUILDINGS? NO, I'M JUST SAYING THAT AT LEAST HE HE'S GIVING THE PROPOSED DINA WHO THE NEW OWNER IS.
THE NEW, THE NEW OWNER IS MORE PAY AND THEY HAVE NOT REACHED OUT TO SAY WHAT THEIR NEW STRUCTURE WOULD BE.
AND THE PERMIT SEARCH HAS BEEN THAT NOTHING AVAILABLE.
SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING TO GO IN THIS PLACE OF 1400 DRAKE AVENUE AND MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CONTACTED, UM, IN ANY EVENT.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE DEMOLITION? NO ONE ELSE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
[D3. HDP-2020-0410 – Discussion 815 W. 11th Street Council District 9]
ITEM D THREE EIGHT 15 WEST 11TH STREET VERSUS KEVIN FLEMING FOR TIME.WE'VE BEEN AT THE, UH, THIS COMMISSION.
AND SO WE HAVE, UH, SUPPORT NOW FROM THE LANDOWNER THAT ONCE, UM, IS SUPPORTING OUR DEMOLITION PERMIT REQUEST, WE HAVE INVESTIGATED AS BEST WE CAN.
WE'VE WENT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE, WE MET CIVIC ENGAGEMENT IN THE WORST WAY, AND IT WAS REALLY HARD THIS YEAR, NOT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE VERY ENGAGED AND OUR GOAL REALLY IS TO CONNECT WITH THE GOALS OF THE CAN.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE INVITING YOU AS CANNED MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE WITH US AS WE LOOK AT, UM, BASIC NEEDS, UH, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU, UH, THE CAN BOARD HAS IN MIND.
SO WE'LL FIGURE OUT WAYS TO LINK AND TO WORK TOGETHER.
AND YOU'LL SEE MORE OF THE COMMUNITY COUNCIL MEMBERS COMING ON WITH ME.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK, UH, ROLL IN THE STAFF FOR THE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE
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WITH US IN ORDER TO, UM, GET THIS FAR.AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO 2021 AND OUR, UM, NEW CHAIR.
UM, I'M GOING TO STAY QUEST THAT SHOE DENY THE THANK YOU DID THEN JANISA OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS.
UM, I HAD ONE QUESTION YOU'RE SAYING MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY DOMESTIC PROPERTIES, FORMER RESIDENCES, AND MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN CONVERTED FOR SOME TYPE OF OFFICE USE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
DAVIAN DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK NEXT? THANK YOU.
WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME? UH, WHETHER YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION? UH, MY NAME IS VIVIAN TODAY, SIR.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK? YES.
I'M AN ARCHITECT GUY ON THE PROPERTY AND ALSO
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OFFICE AT EIGHT 17 WEST 11TH.IT WAS THE YELLOW, UM, VICTORIAN COTTAGE THAT WAS SHOWN IN THE PHOTO.
AND, UM, AT THIS TIME, UM, FIRST OF ALL, AS YOU SAW FROM THE PHOTOS, THIS IS AN AREA THAT HAS REPURPOSED MANY, UM, OLD RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES FOR COMMERCIAL USE.
AND I BELIEVE IT CAN BE DONE IF YOU LOOK AT THE DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THE, UM, FOR DOWNTOWN, IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, THE, THE PLANNING FOR DOWNTOWN, THIS IS A DMU AREA AND, UM, IT'S DMU FOUR DMU SIX, USING THAT AS A BACKDROP, YOU COULD IN FACT PUT ABOUT, UM, PROBABLY YOU COULD THEORETICALLY PUT 6,600 SQUARE FEET ON THE PROPERTY, BUT YOU WOULD ALSO HAVE A 100% OR THE POSSIBILITY OF A HUNDRED PERCENT IMPERVIOUS COVER.
YOU WOULD NOT HAVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
SO IN FACT, THERE ARE WAYS THAT YOU COULD COME UP WITH ANYWHERE FROM SEVEN PARKING SPACES, IF WE KEPT ALL OF THE PARKING ON ONE, UH, ON ONE LOT, UM, IF WE HAD SHARED PARKING, UM, WHICH I HAVE OFFERED TO THE PROPOSED TO THE BUYER IN TERMS OF AN EASEMENT ON OUR DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS USED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ALLEY ANYWAY, UM, WE COULD GET UP TO 20 CARS BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES, AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A WAVE OF THE FUTURE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT IS A SHARED RESOURCE AND IN EFFECT, AND WE ALSO HAVE STREET PARKING.
SO I BELIEVE THERE IS A VIABLE USE FOR THE PROPERTY.
AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD APPRECIATE BEING IN, UH, AN OLDER STRUCTURE, BEING ABLE TO WALK AND SEE THE PROPERTY WE HAVE.
UM, UH, SO, UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, FEEL THAT, THAT, THAT WITH THE RIGHT BUYER, WE COULD DO THAT.
AND I THINK, UM, WE ARE ALSO GOING TOWARDS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, PROBABLY FOR THE WHOLE AREA AND THE TAX, UM, ABATEMENT AND TAX INCENTIVES FOR CERTAIN PROPERTIES, UM, WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT.
THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE PROPERTY.
I HAVE PHOTOS FROM AS LITTLE AS 10 YEARS AGO THAT SHOW THE BACK PORCH WAS NOT THERE.
SO I HAVE EVIDENCE OF WHAT WAS THERE ORIGINALLY, AND IT IS THERE UNDERNEATH EVEN THE STONE ON THE FRONT COULD BE TAKEN OFF OF THE STRUCTURE AND RESTORE IT TO THE WOOD SIDING.
WE ALSO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE BUYER WANTS TO DO.
WE COULD GET IN FACT, YOU KNOW, AN OFFICE BUILDING ON STILTS, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH HAS BEEN, UM, THEY'RE GOOD NEIGHBORS, BUT IT'S BEEN KIND OF AN EYESORE ON THE STREET AND NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN COMPLIMENTARY.
SO WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO GO THERE AND WITHOUT REALLY HAVING AN ABILITY TO DISCUSS WHAT THE DESIGN IS, UM, IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, TO, TO SUPPORT AT THIS TIME, UM, WE FEEL THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES.
UM, WE CAN GET ACCESSIBILITY IF WE KEEP THE, THE FRONT STRUCTURE AND FEEL THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS HERE AND WOULD LIKE YOUR SUPPORT IN THOSE OPTIONS.
THANK YOU, MS. CARTER, MR. HYMAN COMMISSIONER.
YOU MADE REFERENCE TO, UM, THE NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT AND CONSIDERING WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED ON SURPRISE IT'S IT'S, UH, LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY, WHICH IT'S CLEAR.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPENING A WHILE AGO.
HOW FAR ALONG ARE YOU ON THAT? AND YOU MAY HAVE BEEN AWARE OF SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HAD BECAUSE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT WOULD GIVE US A LOT MORE TOOLS TO WORK WITH IN FUTURE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS.
UM, YOU'RE EMBARRASSING ME NOW.
UM, WE'VE BEEN ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL.
WE'VE, WE'VE LITERALLY BEEN IDYLLIC IN, YOU KNOW, COMING TO OUR OFFICES, ENJOYING THE NEIGHBOR HOOD THAT WE LIVE IN.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE ASKED FOR ASSISTANCE AND WE'VE ACTUALLY APPLIED FOR A GRANT OR THAT THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT HAS APPLIED FOR A GRANT TO START THAT PROCESS.
WE ALSO REALIZED THAT WE PROBABLY NEED BOTH.
WE PROBABLY NEED A LOCAL ORDINANCE AS WELL AS A NATIONAL OR THE NATIONAL REGISTER IN ORDER TO, TO REALLY PUT ALL THE PIECES IN PLACE TO MAKE IT WORK.
BUT, UM, YEAH, YOU'VE CAUGHT ME.
WE HAVE BEEN ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL.
WELL, THIS MAY BE ALSO, THIS IS THE WAKE UP.
YOU HAVE BEEN MANY HISTORIC DISTRICTS FORMED ONE DEMOLITION AND ONE OUT OF CHARACTER, NEW CONSTRUCTION.
UM, I HOPE THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE.
UM, BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO FORWARD.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, ANGELA,
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NO OTHER SPEAKERS, BUT WITH THE APPLICANT, A REBUTTAL, UH, YES.UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT A ZONE DMU AT THIS TIME.
IT MAY IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE JUST GOING ON THE RULES THAT ARE IN PLACE.
AND I WISH THERE WERE A WAY TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, PARKING ON THE SITE.
UM, PERHAPS THAT'S A POSSIBILITY IN THE FUTURE.
AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS, UH, WE WOULD JUST SIMPLY REQUEST THAT WE'RE AVAILABLE TO DO THIS.
ONCE WE BEGIN PLANNING, WE CAN INVESTIGATE OPTIONS, ALL OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US, BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, THIS IS OUR REQUEST.
ONE OF THE OTHER APPLICANTS COMMENT AS WELL.
NO, UH, WE, WE HAVE ONLY ONE REBUTTAL AND THAT'S FROM THE, UM, FROM THE APPLICANT.
WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND REBUTTAL FROM OPPOSITION EITHER, BUT I AM PART OF THE APPLICANT.
I CAN ALSO, NO, NO, YOU MAY NOT.
THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE ORDER OF OUR BUSINESS.
WE HAVE ONE PERSON MAKE A REBUTTAL AND THAT'S IT.
[D4. HDP-2020-0424 – Offered for consent approval 514 Academy Drive Council District 9]
ITEM D FOUR.WE HAVE HUGE JEFFERSON RANDALL.
DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER QUEUE? IF YOU'RE SPEAKING, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
UM, MY CLIENT BILL STOCKTON IS MOVING BACK TO TEXAS MOVING TO AUSTIN.
AND, UM, JUST KIND OF REPEATING WHAT WE HAD SAID AT THE LAST MEETING LAST MONTH IS THAT, UM, WE DID EXAMINE WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THE HOME COULD BE ALTERED, UH, BUT IT WASN'T IN THE CONDITION AND NOR WAS IT REALLY A PROGRAMMATICALLY, UH, SOMETHING THAT WOULD SUIT WHAT HIS GOALS WERE.
UH, IT WAS STILL, IT'S A VERY SMALL PROPERTY AND THE HOUSE WILL ONLY BE 2200 SQUARE FEET.
SO WE ARE NOT BUILDING A, UH, I GUESS, A MCMANSION THEY DESIGNED, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S FAIRLY TRADITIONAL.
UH, WE'RE KEEPING THE MASSING WHERE IT'S ONE STORY IN THE FRONT.
THERE'S A LARGE FRONT PORCH AS PART OF THE DESIGN AND IN TERMS OF BEING VERY NEIGHBORLY AND THE AESTHETICS, BUT ALSO THE SOCIAL INTERACTION WITH THE PORCH.
AND THEN THE TWO-STORY PORTION OF THE HOME IS SET BACK.
UH, THE OVERALL HOUSE IS SET FARTHER BACK ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF FEET OF AWAY FROM ACADEMY FROM WHERE THE CURRENT HOME IS.
AND WE ARE ALSO KEEPING THE BACK ATTACHED.
UM, THE CURRENT GARAGE, IT'S A OLD CORRUGATED METAL SHED THAT THE CLIENT REALLY LIKES.
AND SO WE'RE REPURPOSING THAT.
AND SO JUST IN SHORT, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING HOUSE, WASN'T REALLY, AS WE LOOK AT IT, WASN'T GOING TO WORK FOR HIS NEEDS.
UH, THE NEW DESIGN WAS MEANT TO KIND OF BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WE ARE REPURPOSING AN EXISTING BUILDING, UH, WHICH IS ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, UH, WHICH FOR INSTANCE, THE THROUGH BLOCK PROPERTY.
AND SO IT GOES BACK TO SUNNY LANE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DID EXAMINE, UM, WHERE THE OPTIONS WERE AND, UM, IT IS NOT IN A SPECULATIVE HOUSE AND IT IS, UM, IN FACT, IT'S SLIGHTLY SMALLER THAN WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT WE COULD BUILD EVEN FOR THE SMALL PROPERTY.
I, I WAS ENCOURAGED BY OUR MEETING AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, THOUGHT THAT YOU MIGHT SAVE THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.
UM, SADLY, UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR, JUSTIN KYLE, THIS IS JUSTIN KYLE.
I'D LIKE TO SECOND, UH, MR. RANDOLPH'S COMMENTS, UH, ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
UH, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO LOOK AT THE AESTHETIC NEIGHBOR, OUR AESTHETIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND TRY TO FIT THE NEW DESIGN WITHIN THE FABRIC OF THAT, UH, WITH THE MATERIALS, THE FORMS, AND ALSO THE SIZE OF IT AS WELL, AND TO RESPECT, UH, THE INTENTIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO NOT HAVE ANYTHING, UH, TO BE AN EYESORE, UH, WITHIN THE FABRIC.
AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE REMOVING A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY AND ADDING A NON-CONTRIBUTING ONE? UH, UH, I APOLOGIZE.
A NON-CONTRIBUTING UH, YEAH, THE NEW CONSTRUCTION WILL BE NON-CONTRIBUTING
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TO THE DISTRICT.I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, SO, YEAH.
UM, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR? NOT IN OPPOSITION POLITICS.
HELLO AGAIN, THIS PAUL KAUFMAN.
AND, UM, IT'S A GOOD POINT ABOUT ACADEMY DRIVE THE NOT KNOWING F HOW THE NEW BILL WOULD BE NOW THAT IT'S NON-CONTRIBUTING, BUT IF IT WOULD MEAN THAT THE RE RETAIN SOME OF THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT WOULD MAKE IT MORE VISUALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE HOUSES AROUND IT.
SO WE ASKED FOR A POSTPONEMENT SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY TALK TO THE OWNER AND ARCHITECTS ABOUT WHICH ELEMENTS OF THE PROPOSAL BUILD WOULD HAVE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND WHICH CHARACTERS CHARACTERISTICS WOULD NOT BE CREDIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
BUT, UM, I'D LIKE TO READ FROM MY COMMITTEE MEMBER, MELANIE MUSKINESS BECAUSE SHE HAS MUCH MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PROPERTY THAN I.
AND SO WE WANT THE ARCHITECTS AND THE PEOPLE MOVING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO REALIZE THAT WE HAVE THIS NEW HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND THESE ARE CONTRIBUTING PROPERTIES AND HOW THEY CAN RETAIN THIS CONTRIBUTING STATUS, THEIR COMMISSIONERS, I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF THERAPY PARK.
AND ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO SPENT THE PAST 15 YEARS WORKING TOWARDS OUR NATIONAL REGISTER, HISTORIC DISTRICT DESIGNATION.
I ALSO VOLUNTEER ON THE FRCC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, BUT I'M WRITING AS AN INDIVIDUAL AND NOT ON BEHALF OF THAT GROUP.
I OPPOSE THE DEMOLITION OF FIVE 14 ACADEMY DRIVE, AND IT LIVED NEAR THE PROPERTY AND MY, AND COMPLETED MY OPPOSITION STATEMENT AND WRITING LAST MONTH, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY PLANS YET FOR THIS LOT.
SO I AM STILL OPPOSED TO THEM LESSEN THIS SECTION OF ACADEMY'S HISTORIC STREETSCAPE HAS BARELY BEEN TOUCHED BY NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SO LOSING A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK TO THE HISTORIC KIRKLAND MATHER HOUSE, ALSO KNOWN AS THE ACADEMY MAKES A CHEERING STATEMENT AND DIMINISHES THE CHARACTER OF OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT.
SHOULD THE OWNER WANTS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT POSSIBILITIES OF RESTORING THE HOUSE, EVEN WITH AN ADDITION, AN ADU, THEY COULD CREATE AN INCOME PRODUCING PROPERTY AND EARN TAX CREDITS FOR REHABILITATION, OR THEY COULD SELL THAT REMODELED PROPERTY AS AN INCOME PRODUCING PROPERTY.
I BELIEVE PEOPLE MOVING TO AUSTIN DESIRE HOMES LIKE THESE THAT PROVIDE THE MISSING MIDDLE.
IT CAN BE A BENEFIT RATHER THAN A WASTE OF EMBODIED ENERGY AND HISTORIC FROM IN THE DUMP.
OF COURSE, I CANNOT SPEAK TO THE OWNER'S INTENT IF THEY DESIRE TO BE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
I'M STRIKE MEETING WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION COMMITTEE WOULD BE FRUITFUL AND COULD OPEN UP MORE POSSIBILITIES FOR COMPROMISE AND FIND DESIGN APPROACHES THAT WOULDN'T REMOVE THIS CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY FROM OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING YOUR CONSIDERATION, MELANIE, MY UNIT 1214 NEWNAN AVENUE.
CAN I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, FOR, UM, PAULA CAUSEMAN? OKAY, THANK YOU.
UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO REBUT, UH, YES, THIS IS, SHE RAN OFF AGAIN AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THE SENTIMENTS.
UH, WE HAVE RESTORED A NUMBER OF HOMES.
WE HAVE WORKED IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS, CASTLE HILL, HISTORIC.
UH, WE'VE WORKED IN CLARKSVILLE, WE'VE WORKED IN OLD WEST AUSTIN.
IN FACT, WE ADDED ON BACK IN 2001 TO 15, 15 MURRAY LANE, THE TUTOR COTTAGE, AND IT'S PRETTY INDISTINGUISHABLE TO WHAT IS DOING OLD.
AND SO WHEN THERE ARE PROJECTS AND PROPERTIES THAT ALLOW FOR THAT, THEN THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS A GOOD GOAL.
UM, THE MISSING MIDDLE IS ALSO A VERY IMPORTANT, UM, YOU WANT SOME MISSING ELEMENT IN AUSTIN.
UH, THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS, WOULD REALLY BE TOO SMALL FOR AN ADU IT'S A THROUGH BLOCK, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU'VE GOT SONNY LANE AND YOU'VE GOT ACADEMY.
BOTH OF THOSE STREETS REQUIRE A LARGER SETBACK AND TYPICAL PROPERTY HAS A 10 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK.
IN THIS CASE, WE'RE KEEPING THE METAL BUILDING IN THE BACK.
UH, IT IS CLOSER TO SUNNY LANE, BUT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD AN ADU IN THAT LOCATION.
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AND SO THERE ARE NEVER THINGS THAT ON OTHER PROPERTIES WITH OTHER STRUCTURES, WE WOULD BE VERY, UM, ENCOURAGED TO PROVIDE THOSE THINGS WE'VE DONE.AND SO I'M REALLY STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THOSE THINGS WHEN THEY ARE PERMISSIBLE.
UH, THE HOMEOWNER REALLY DOES WANT TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, HIS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR TO THE EAST, UM, HAD ASKED, DO YOU NOT NEED TO BUILD A FENCE? I REALLY DON'T WANT A FENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES AND THE OWNER AGREED.
AND SO HE'S HIS TAKE WAS, YOU KNOW, THEY, HAVEN'T HAD A FENCE BETWEEN THESE TWO PROPERTIES AND THE HOMEOWNER NEXT DOOR DIRECTLY TO THE EAST.
HE'S LIVED THERE FOR 40 YEARS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE REACHED OUT TO, I GUESS, VIA MY, I WAS THE COMMUNICATOR BETWEEN THE TWO.
UM, AND SO I THINK HE'S GOING TO BE A VERY GOOD NEIGHBOR AND VERY COMPATIBLE.
HE DIDN'T WANT A MODERN HOUSE.
HE DIDN'T WANT A, YOU KNOW, THERE, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF HOMES THAT HAVE NO COMPATIBILITY.
AND WE DID SEND THE, UH, DESIGN OVER FIVE WEEKS AGO AND ALL SIX WEEKS AGO, NOW WE SENT THE DESIGN, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP AND SAID, PLEASE REACH OUT BACK TO US.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE NEVER DID HEAR FROM ANYONE.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY HAD A REVIEW AND WE'VE HAD COMMUNICATIONS OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CITY AND THE HISTORIC COMMISSION.
AND SO IT REALLY IS OUR INTENT TO, AGAIN, DESIGN A HOUSE, UH, SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS, AGAIN, I'LL REPEAT IT, BUT THE PORCH, THE FRONT BEING ONE STORY AND SO FORTH, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TAKING CARE IN TERMS TRYING TO MAKE IT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND SO FORTH.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN WHEN YOU SEE A LOT OF MEDIOCRITY BEING BUILT IN OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, IT TENDS TO PUT THE GUARD UP.
AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, WE HAVE MADE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT I CONSIDER A GOOD ATTEMPT AND ACTUALLY MORE THAN AN ATTEMPT, I DO THINK THAT IT IS A DESIGN OF WHICH WILL BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
UM, WE'LL GO ON TO DEFINE, UM, YEAH, THAT SHOULD BE THE END.
D FIVE IS NEXT 605 INCH SPRINGS ROAD IS MR. PHIL MANCADO ON THE LINE, MR. MONCADA, IF NOT, NO ONE ELSE HAS SIGNED UP.
[D6. HDP-2020-0453 – Offered for consent approval 1414 Alameda Drive Council District 9]
D SIX, 14, EIGHT, 14 ALAMEDA.UH, I'M WITH FORESIGHT STUDIO WHERE THE ARCHITECT FOR THE OWNERS AT 14, 14 ALAMEDA, UH, WE'RE PRESENTING THE PROPOSAL FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT THAT WE PRESENTED LAST MONTH AT THE HLC MEETING.
UM, IN THE MEANTIME, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE TAKE THE LANE IN ORDER TO SIT IN FRONT OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
WE HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TWO WEEKS AGO.
THE CONVERSATION CIRCLED AROUND WHAT THE PROPERTY WAS ABOUT AND WHAT WAS ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTO THE STREETS, THE DISCUSSION CENTERED ON THE FACT THAT THE LARGE PORTION OF WHAT PRESENTS TO THE STREET IS A TREE IN THE VERY FRONT OF THE YARD AND A VERY OPEN FRONT YARD.
UM, THE OWNER IS LIGHT IS PRESENTED POSING TO TAKE THE PROJECT DOWN, DEMO THIS PROJECT, AND WE PLACE IT WITH A NEW BUILDING THAT MAINTAINS THAT CHARACTER.
THE FRONT PORCH WILL STAY, UH, STILL OPEN IN THE FRONT YARD WITH STILL STAY OPEN.
WE'LL BUILD A ONE-STORY STRUCTURE THAT'S BASED IN THE STREET AND MOVED THE LARGER SECOND STORY VOLUME TO THE BACK TO MAINTAIN THAT PRESENCE ON THE STREET AS WELL.
UM, WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE LANDMARK, UH, EXCUSE ME, WITH THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMISSION GAVE US THIS PRESENTATION THAT THEY SUGGESTED THE FRONT YARD WAS NOT OPEN ENOUGH TO COME BACK IN AND REVISE THE FRONT YARD AND FENCE TO MAKE IT MORE OPEN TO THE, UH, STREET.
UM, AT THIS POINT WE'VE DEMONSTRATED OUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH THE DARK LANDMARK COMMISSION AND THE FAVORITE COMMITTEE THAT WE STARTED REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE AS EARLY AS OCTOBER 20TH, TO DISCUSS THIS PROJECT, UM, I'VE SENT, UH, RENDERINGS AND PROPOSALS TO THE NRCC AND TO PAUL COPLIN AND TO SEVERAL OTHERS ON THE COMMITTEE.
AND WE HAVE AT THIS POINT, NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS BACK FROM THE SRC, OTHER THAN PLEASE MEET WITH, PLEASE MEET THE STANDARDS OF DESIGN THAT HAD BEEN PROPOSED BY HLC DC.
WE DO FEEL THAT WE'VE DONE THAT ON THE STRUCTURE OR WHILE IT IS AN ARCHITECTURAL AS WELL.
IT DOES HAVE ARCHITECTURE FOR THE HISTORICAL MATERIA.
DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THE OTHER FOUR MAJOR ISSUES AS FAR AS LANDMARKS.
UM, AND AT THIS POINT, THE OWNER IS REQUESTING THAT THEY BE ALLOWED TO DEMO THE PROJECT KNOWING FULL WELL THAT WE WILL BE BACK IN FRONT OF THIS COMMITTEE AND
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THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEE TO DISCUSS THE ULTIMATE DESIGN OF THE NEW STRUCTURE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER APPLICANTS, UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION PAULA KOFMAN IN OPPOSITION? IF, IF THEY, IF THEY'RE NO MORE, IF NO ONE ELSE IS GOING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE ARCHITECT FOR REACHING OUT TO THE COMMITTEE.
AND WE APPRECIATE HIS BEING FORTHCOMING WITH THE DESIGN, BUT WE ASK THEM TO DO IS TO SHOW WHAT, WHAT ELEMENTS OF THE DESIGN, HOW THEY EITHER CONFORMED TO THE VERY VALUABLE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT YOUR COMMITTEE AND YOUR ASSOCIATES STOOD OUT THAT WE SAW IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING.
SO BY LOOKING AT HOW THE NEW STRUCTURE CONFORMS TO THAT DESIGNER, DOESN'T AN ARCHITECT HAS, IS BETTER ABLE TO TELL US THIS, THIS CONFORMS, THIS DOESN'T, THIS IS WHY, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE UNDERWATER, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAD ASKED FOR AS FAR AS THE, UM, THE DESCRIPTION.
AND SO, BECAUSE IT IS A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY TO OUR HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND IT'S, IT'S SURROUNDED BY SEVERAL HISTORIC, SMALL PROPERTIES AS WELL, BUT IT'S THAT VERY FAR BACK ON THE LOT.
SO AS WE, AS WE STATED THAT, UM, THINGS THAT, THAT ARE LESS THAN FORMING THAT ARE NOT VISIBLE FROM THIS THREE MIGHT BE MORE PALATABLE THAN SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS VERY JARRING AS FAR AS THE DESIGN GOES IN THE FRONT.
AND SO WE'RE OPEN TO WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECT WHEN WE APPRECIATE HIM SENDING US OUR PLAN.
I CAN, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT VERY QUICKLY IF I HAVE A MOMENT.
I MEAN, THERE ARE ANY OF HIS SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION, NO OTHER SPEAKERS ADJACENT, BUT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A REBUTTAL, SIR.
SO WE DID, WE HAVE LOOKED INTO, UH, GUIDELINES THAT WERE PRESENTED LAST MONTH IN FRONT OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMITTEE.
UH, WE HAVE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THOSE AND THOSE HAVE BEEN PART OF OUR DESIGN.
SO THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THIS PROJECT STREET VISIBILITY FOR THIS PROJECT IS VERY MINIMAL, OR THERE'S A VERY LARGE PROTECTIVE TREE IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
WE ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT.
UM, PAUL MENTIONED THAT THE PROPERTY THAT THE STRUCTURE IS SET VERY FAR BACK, OUR INTENT IS TO ALSO MAINTAIN THE MAJOR VOLUMES OF THE HOUSE TO BE SET FOR THERE IN THE BACK.
UM, THE LOCATION WE'RE GOING TO CURRENTLY MESS THE SETBACKS AND WE'RE LOOKING TO MATCH THE RHYTHM TO THE STREETS.
SO IT LOWER ASSAD IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WITHOUT FLATTER ROOF TO MATCH WHAT'S THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, BOTH TWO NEIGHBORS HAVE A GABLED ROOF.
AND WE WOULD MATCH THAT AS WELL FROM ORIENTATION ON THE SITE, WE'LL STILL MATCH IT.
IT WILL STILL BE A LONGER AND MORE NARROW BUILDING ON THE SITE.
UM, AS FAR AS SCALING NOTHING HEIGHTS, AS, AS I SPOKE TO EARLIER, WE'LL DO AS MUCH SMALLER SCALE BUILDING IN THE FRONT AND THE TWO-STORY VOLUME IN THE BACK, THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY, REALLY FRONTS ON THE PARK.
UM, IT WAS A NUMBER OF TREES ON THE SITE THAT WILL BE VERY MUCH, UH, CREATED FROM THE FRONT OF THE STREET.
UM, WE'RE MAINTAINING THE SAME PROPORTIONS AS FAR AS HOW THIS BUILDING APPROACHES THE STREET.
SO CURRENTLY THERE IS A PORCH AND A SINGLE VOLUME ON THE PROPERTY.
WE WILL MAINTAIN A FRONT PORCH AND A SINGLE VOLUME.
UH, THIS WAS A CRESCENT STYLE BUILDING FROM THE THIRTIES.
UH, OUR GOAL IS TO PUT A MODERN CRAFTSMAN STYLE BUILDING BACK IN HIS PLACE.
UM, THE FLATTER, LOWER SLOPE CABLE GROUPS, UH, THE WINDOWS TO THE FRONT, THE MATERIALS TO MATCH.
UH, OUR GOAL IS TO VERY MUCH WORK WITHIN THE SITE AND MAINTAIN THE RHYTHMS AND THE FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AT THIS POINT, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE DEMO PERMIT TO BE RELEASED SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE BUILDING PERMIT PHASE SO THAT WE CAN FULLY FLESH OUT THE DESIGN OF THIS BUILDING WHILE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AND WORKING WITH THE ARCHITECTURE REVIEW COMMITTEE, THAT HISTORICAL, I MUCH APPRECIATE KNOWING THAT WE'LL BE BACK ON BOARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
WE'VE TALKED TO ALL OF YOU AGAIN, AND WE'RE WELCOME TO INPUT IT IN THE NEW STRUCTURE.
[D7. GF-2020-175404 – Offered for consent approval 1016 Avondale Road Council District 9]
THE SEVEN, 10 16 IS MEREDITH BRADLEY.MY NAME IS DAVID RAMOS AND, UH, I AM, UH, MEREDITH BRADLEY'S HUSBAND.
I AM THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE AND I HAVE BEEN SINCE 2000, 2006, 2007.
UM, SO I'VE BEEN HERE FOR, FOR QUITE A LONG TIME,
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AND I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE CHANGES.THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE LOVE VERY MUCH, UH, HAS GONE THROUGH AS A POINT OF REFERENCE TO THE COMMISSION.
I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT, AND THE RECORD OF THE, UH, STAFF COMMENTS MENTIONED TAN 16 ACADEMY DRIVE.
WHEN IN REALITY, THIS IS 10 16 AVONDALE ROAD.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT TO BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH ALL THE RESPECT, UM, AND MOVING ON.
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT WE'VE BEFORE MOVING HERE IN 2007, WHEN YOU, THE OWNERS, UH, PRIOR THAT HAD LIVED HERE FOR A DECADE OR TWO BEFORE THAT, WHO BOUGHT THE HOUSE FROM THE SECOND OWNER BACK IN THE LATE SIXTIES, WHEN THIS HOUSE WAS, WAS, UH, WAS BUILT.
SO, UH, IT IS, UH, AN INTACT TYPICAL EXAMPLE OF A CONTEMPORARY STYLE HOUSE.
HOWEVER, UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE, UH, SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS, ARCHEOLOGY, UH, COMMUNITY VALUE OR LANDSCAPE FEATURES.
UM, NO ARCHITECT BRAID RENOWNED, BUT WE LOVE IT.
AND, AND, AND WE LOVE THE ASPECT AND THE ELEMENTS OF THE, THE CONTEMPORARY, UH, MID CENTURY MODERN KIND OF BUILD.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE KEPT EVERY ASPECT THROUGHOUT THIS TWO YEAR LONG PROCESS IN MIND, WE'D GET OUR NEIGHBORS IN MIND.
WE KEPT IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ASSOCIATION IN MIND.
UM, AND, AND EVERY MOMENT, AND EVERY DECISION WE'VE MADE IN THIS PROJECT, IT IS NOT JUST FOR THE LOVE OF THE HOUSE, WHICH WE DO WANT TO STAY IN A, WE'RE NOT DOING THIS FOR ANY KIND OF, UH, INVESTMENT VALUE IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO CHILDREN.
UM, SO IT'S A 1200 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE WITH TWO BEDROOMS AND, AND, AND WE NEEDED TO, TO EXPAND.
AND, AND BEFORE MAKING AN ENDEAVOR INTO THIS PROJECT, WE WENT TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, UH, WITHIN A 300 SQUARE METER RADIUS TO ASK FOR THEIR PERMISSION AND OBTAIN THEIR SIGNATURES.
WE WENT TO OUR ORGANIZATION AND NEIGHBORHOOD, AREN'T GOING TO SAY, SHOULD STYLE CITY RIVER ORGANIZATION, AND IAN REDDY, WHO IS IN THE HISTORICAL, UM, UH, ASPECT OF THIS, UH, THIS, UH, OUR ORGANIZATION ASSOCIATION CAME TO OUR HOUSE, MET WITH THE ARCHITECT AND APPROVED THE PLAN.
WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE VICE PRECEDENT APPROVING OUR PLAN BEFORE WE WENT TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO APPLY FOR OUR VARIANCE.
NOW WE APPLY FOR A VARIANCE BECAUSE OUR EXPANSION INTO THE CARPORT, ART, WHICH REQUIRES A PARTIAL DEMOLITION, BY THE WAY, ONLY, ONLY IN 2D CAR PORT CAN.
ONE, ONE WALL OF IS OF OUR, OF THIS WHOLE HOUSE, ONE WALL.
UM, IT HAS TO BE TO THAT SIDE.
IT HAS TO BE TO THE CAR PORT BECAUSE WE CANNOT EXPAND TO THE BACK.
IT IS, IT IS BECAUSE THIS SIDE IS ESSENTIALLY ROTATED 90 DEGREES OF TYPICAL TIDE WHERE A REAR ADDITION WOULD NOT WORK.
SO WE HAD TO ASK FOR THE VARIANCE, AND EVEN BEFORE GOING THROUGH THE VARIANCE, WE WENT THROUGH THE CITY ARBORIST BECAUSE OF OUR LARGE HERITAGE OAK TREES, WHICH IN WHICH IN THE FIRST PLACE TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE AWARE OF THE CRITICAL BRUTES OUT.
SO WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT ALONG WITH THE MUTATION.
SO THE LOT, UH, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE CITY, UH, THROUGH US FOR THE VARIOUS TWICE NOW, TWICE WITHIN APPROVED.
UM, AND NOW OUR VARIOUS WILL EXPIRE IN THREE MONTHS AND WE HOPE THAT, UH, THIS PERMIT IS RELEASED.
CAN YOU WRAP THIS UP IN ONE SENTENCE? UH, YES.
HAVING ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO THE SIDE BEAM WIDER THAN AS LONG, THERE'S SIMPLY NO ROOM FOR A REAR ADDITION, WE'VE KEPT IN MIND THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE SPLIT, AND WE LOVE IT AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT.
AND THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE THAT ARCHITECTURE ENHANCES, ENHANCES THE DESIGN AND KEEPS IN MIND THE, THE HISTORICAL ASPECTS OF IT.
MEREDITH, DID YOU ALSO WANT TO SPEAK OH, YES.
I DID WANT TO SAY THIS IS MEREDITH CALM DOWN A LITTLE BIT, CAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT EMOTIONAL BRADLEY.
UM, JUST HAVING GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND, UH, CARING, OR THEN EMPTIED AROUND LIKE FEED ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND TAKE, UM, RENDERINGS OF, OF WHAT WE WERE PLANNING TO DO AND MAKE SURE THEY WERE ALL IN FAVOR OF IT.
UM, BUT ALSO THAT OUR KIDS GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL AND WE,
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WE KNOW IF WE HAD TO SELL THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO STAY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.AND WE REALLY ENJOY BEING IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS.
UH, MY HUSBAND WORKED WITH THE, THE COURTHOUSE HE'S DOWN ALL THE TIME TO THE PROXIMITY TO US SAID, YOU KNOW, WE SUPPORT, UM, TRAVIS HEIGHTS, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WE SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, KEEPING AND WE REALLY WENT INTO KEEP IN MIND THE, THE, THE FEEL OF THE HOUSE AND NOT COME IN AND CHANGE IT, UH, A HUGE AMOUNT WITH THE SAME KIND OF AUSTIN STONE ON THE OUTSIDE WHEN WE'VE SEEN SO MANY PLACES AROUND US, WHEN I WITNESSED, UH, A HOME THAT APPEARED THAT IT WOULD BE HISTORIC AND ALL THE ITEMS OF THE PERSONS, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE HOME WAS DEMOLISHED, UM, JUST RIGHT OFF THE BALLOT, ALTA VISTA.
AND SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT ALL OF WHAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS TO REALLY KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROPERTY AND ENGAGE AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN IN THE DISCUSSION TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT, UM, PEOPLE ARE ONBOARD.
SO I HOPE THAT, UM, YOU GUYS WILL TO, UH, RELEASE THE PERMIT AS, AS, UH, AS WE SAID, THAT THE VARIANCE, UM, IS VERY WELL GOING TO EXPIRE HERE AGAIN.
AND, UH, WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THAT, UM, A COUPLE OF TIMES.
SO, UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
UM, BEFORE WE GO TO OPPOSITION, I WANT TO SAY IT'S 8:20 PM RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE STILL HAVING SPEAKERS.
SO ANYONE SPEAKING ON ITEMS, PLEASE BE, YOU KNOW, BE EFFICIENT WITH YOUR WORDS.
UM, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK, BUT PLEASE BE EFFICIENT.
WE DID HAVE ONE OTHER SPEAKER IN FAVOR OF THE AVONDALE PROJECT FRANCISCO.
I AM, UH, THE ARCHITECT FOR, UH, DAVIDA AND MEREDITH.
CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN.
I JUST WANTED TO BE AVAILABLE IN CASE THAT YOU HAVE ADD THAT YOU GUYS HAD ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, I THINK, UH, DEBBIE THEN THE MEREDITH HAS, UH, EXPLAINED, UM, OUR CURRENT SITUATION.
WE, WE HAVE AN APPROVED THE, UH, VARIANCE THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS THAT EXPIRED.
WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UM, AN ADDITIONAL TIME WHEN AND ADD ADDITIONAL TIME WITH THAT EXPIRED THAT THAT'S THE SPECIFIC SHAPE AND ORIENTATION OF THE LOT, MAKE THAT IMPOSSIBLE TO ADD, UH, ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY OR, UH, SO THERE'S NO ROOM WHATSOEVER.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SLIDE NUMBER TWO, WE'LL SHOW YOU, UH, THE SURVEY, UH, THE ADDITION ITSELF IS, IS RELATIVELY SMALL.
WE'RE ADDING A LIVING ROOM AND A MASTER SUITE FOR THE V AND, UH, MEREDITH.
UM, AND IF YOU GO TO, UM, I THINK THE FIRST PAGE SHOWS A DRAWING OF THE HOUSE.
IT'S VERY MUCH IN LINE AND IN LINE WITH THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OF THE HOUSE.
IT'S JUST, IT JUST KIND OF GREW A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT FOLLOWS THE SAME LINES AND AESTHETIC.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A VERY THOUGHTFUL, UM, ADDITION TO THE EXISTING HOUSE THAT IS JUST MEANT TO, TO, TO BLEND WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE AND REALLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF.
UM, SO THAT'S, UM, UH, AND WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVE OUR, OUR, UM, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UM, UH, YES, UH, JUST THREE REQUESTS THAT YOU GUYS PLACE RELEASE THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION, LIKE THE SAID WE'RE TAKING IT, WE'RE DEMOING THE CARDBOARD AND ONE WALL.
NOW, PHYSICIANS, PAULA KOFMAN.
AND I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE, WE'RE NOT OPPOSING THE, UM, THAT IT WE'RE DELIGHTED THAT, UH, APPLICANTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE DEMOLISHING HOUSE THAT AS THE, AS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE TOWARDS THE NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE JUST DON'T KNOW IF THE NEW REMODEL WILL RENDER THE HOUSE NO LONGER CONTRIBUTING.
SO I'D LIKE TO READ, UM, FROM MY COMMITTEE MEMBER, MELANIE MARTINEZ, AGAIN, WHO HAS BETTER CHARACTERISTICS SHE DISCUSSED, AND SHE AND MELANIE WRITES THEIR COMMISSIONERS.
I'M A LONG TIME RESIDENT AT THERAPY PARK.
AND ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS SHE SPENT THE LAST 15 YEARS WORKING TOWARDS THIS HISTORIC
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DISTRICT.I'M WRITING TO ASK THE OWNERS AT 10, 16 AVONDALE ROAD TO PLEASE CONSIDER THE MID CENTURY MODERN CORRECT OF THIS HOME AND THEIR ADDITION, AND TO RETAIN THE STREET VIEW FACADE.
I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE THEM NOT TO PAINT THE NATURAL STONE AS THE CHOICE OF FENESTRATION WILL HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THE FACADE.
I HOPE THEY WILL WORK WITH THE PRESERVATION OFFICE AND THEIR ARCHITECTS TO SELECT A PERIOD APPROPRIATE FILE.
SO ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PREVENT ANYONE.
WE'RE DELIGHTED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THE HOUSE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE DETAILS DID NOT KNOCK IT OUT OF THE, OUT OF THIS CONTRIBUTING STATUS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, DOCUMENT COMMISSIONERS? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. COFFIN? OKAY, NO QUESTIONS.
IS THERE SOMEBODY ASKING A QUESTION IN THE BACKGROUND? YEAH, WE ARE NOT PLANNING ON PAINTING THE STONE OF THE BUILDING.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO ONE ELSE.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE MORE FOR REBUTTAL, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL.
UH, IF YOU SAID WHAT YOU NEED TO SAY, IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARY, BUT YOU WANT TO, UM, YEAH, I WOULD SAY, I MEAN, JUST THE SAME THING THAT NO, WE'RE NOT HITTING THIS DOWN.
IT'S OFTEN DOWN AND WE'RE KEEPING, YOU KNOW, THE SAME INTEGRITY, LIKE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS, IS, UM, THE SAME, THE SAME, THE WINDOWS GOING ACROSS, LIKE AT THE SAME.
AND, UM, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE CHANGING AND IS, IS PART OF THE PART OF THE ROOF.
UM, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS, IS, IS GOING TO BE STAYING THE SAME.
WE'RE KEEPING THE FAMOUS THEORY, OLD, SAME DETAIL BLEEDING MAP.
WE CAN ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON READ, BUT, UM, SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
CAN WE GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM? NEXT
[D9. GF-2020-179571 – Offered for consent approval 2102 Alta Vista Avenue Council District 9]
IS BEING NINE 20, ONE OF THE TWO ALTAVISTA, JENNIFER SMITH.MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS JENNIFER SMITH WITH PERMIT SOLUTIONS AND I AM THE OWNER'S AGENT AND THE APPLICANT FOR THIS PERMIT REQUEST PRIOR TO THE PURCHASE OF THEIR HOME, THE OWNER OF THE 2102 OUTS OF HIS DECK CONTACTED THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.
WE ENSURE THAT IN ADDITION WAS COMFORTABLE WITH DISLOCATION.
THAT CONVERSATION BEGAN BACK IN APRIL OF 2020.
UH, THEY HAVE CONSULTED WITH THOSE SORTS PRESERVATION OFFICE NUMEROUS TIMES THROUGHOUT THE DESIGN PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR PROPOSED ADDITION WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THIS BEING HOME AND PROPOSED DESIGN THAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE PROVIDED A LIST OF GUIDELINES.
AND THE OWNERS USE THESE TO MODIFY THEIR ORIGINAL DESIGN.
NOW, THE PROPOSED ADDITION ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE WILL MATCH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
AND THE PROPOSED ADDITION WAS PULLED BACK AWAY FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING ARTICULATION OF THE STRUCTURE.
UH, THE CHANGES TO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE ARE TO ENCLOSE THE EXISTING PORCH TO BE ABLE TO ENLARGE THE LIVING ROOM AREA.
THE PROPOSED CLOSURE WAS INSPIRED BY A HOUSE, A FEW THREE DOWN IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD LOCATED ON FIVE 18 MARY STREET, THE HOUSES LOCATION WITH ALSO A BUNGALOW BUILDING AND WAS REMODELED BACK IN 2012, AN IMAGE OF THE HOUSE AS FIVE 18, MARY WAS SUBMITTED.
THE PROPOSED PORCH ENCLOSURE WILL FOLLOW THE SAME DESIGN AS A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PADDED ENCLOSURE AT 1518 MARY STREET.
WE BELIEVE THAT PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD STILL ENSURE THAT THE HOUSE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE HISTORIC CHARACTER, I, I SPOKE TO A FEW COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT REACHED OUT TO ME ONCE THE FORMAL PUBLIC NOTICE WAS SENT OUT.
AND ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS WAS THAT THIS HOUSE WOULD BE USED WITH A SHORT TERM RENTAL.
IT IS THE OWNER'S FULL INTENT TO OCCUPY THE HOME.
THE REASON FOR THE ADDITION IS TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR GROWING FAMILY.
THE OWNER HAS SUBMITTED A LETTER THAT AS PART OF THE BACK-UP DOCUMENT, ADDRESSING THIS CONCERN, THE OWNERS OF 2102 ALTO VISTA, OPPOSED THE DESIGNATION OF THEIR HOUSE AT THE HISTORIC HISTORIC LANDMARK, UH, AS A STAFF COME AND SHOW THAT PROPERTY DOES NOT DEMONSTRATE SIGNIFICANCE IN ANY OF THE FIVE CHARACTERISTICS NECESSARY TO BECOME OR BE DESIGNATED A LANDMARK.
SO IT IS OUR HOPE THAT WE CAN GET YOUR APPROVAL TO PROCEED WITH OUR
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APPLICATION TODAY.UH, THE OWNERS ARE HOPING TO BEGIN TO, YOU KNOW, BEGIN THE PROJECT BEFORE THE ARRIVAL OF THEIR BABY IN EARLY 2021.
SO IT'D BE GOOD TO NOT POSTPONE THIS.
SOME, THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE DESIGN SINCE, UM, APRIL OF THIS YEAR WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.
AND SO I JUST DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO POST STILLNESS WHEN THEY'VE ALREADY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO DESIGN AND HAVE TAKEN INSPIRATION TO THE CHANGES FROM THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD I'M AVAILABLE FOR AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, YOUR CHANGES BILL, UM, RENDER THE HOUSE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION? NOT IN OPPOSITION.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, UM, OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THE HOUSES THAT ARE CONTRIBUTED CURRENTLY CONTRIBUTING TO OUR NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT AND THAT STATUS.
AND SO WE WOULD OPPOSE CHANGES THAT WOULD TAKE IT OUT, UH, CONTRIBUTING STATUS, AND THERE COULD BE SOME COMPROMISES SUCH AS CHOICE OF MATERIALS OR WINDOWS OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAINTAIN THE CONTRIBUTING STATUS WHILE ALLOWING THE NEW OWNER TO HAVE THE EXTRA SPACE THAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR GROWING FAMILY HOUSES CAN BE ENLARGED AND STILL KEEP THEIR CONTRIBUTING STATUS.
IF DONE WITH THOSE ELEMENTS IN MIND.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
NO ONE ELSE SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION.
SO WHAT JENNIFER YOU'D YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A REBUTTAL? UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WHILE THE CHANGE, I GUESS THE CHANGE THAT WOULD RENDER THIS, UM, NOT CONTRIBUTING WOULD BE THE ENCLOSURE OF THE PORCH.
THEY WILL STILL HAVE THIS TRACK AREA.
AND ACCORDING TO THE ADOPTED GUIDELINES ON THE INTRODUCTION PAGE NINE, IT DOES STATE THAT A PROPERTY OWNER CAN CHOOSE TO RETURN TO HISTORIC AGE CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY, TO CONTRIBUTING STATUS THROUGH CAREFUL.
WE HAVE LIKE PATIENT RESTORATION.
I BELIEVE THAT SINCE THE CHANGES ARE NOT MAJOR AND, UM, THAT MOST OF THE HOUSE WILL BE MAINTAINED AND THE ADDITION WILL BE MATCHING THE EXISTING ARCHITECTURE.
IF IN THE FUTURE, IT WAS DESIRE TO RETURN THIS TO A CONTRIBUTING HOME.
[D10. HDP-2020-0474 – Offered for consent approval 1402 Drake Avenue Council District 9]
10, 14, DRAKE, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT OR MR. AARON WASN'T HERE EARLIER.SO I ASSUME HE'S NOT NEW TO WALLACE HENDERSON.
I'M NOT HEARING HIM SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE OPPOSITION.
UM, MY COMMENTS TO DRAKE, I ECHO MANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT I MADE FOR 14 HUNDREDS, RIGHT? IT'S AN, A, A RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE RENTAL.
I MET THE RESIDENTS WHO THAT ACTUALLY IS ABLE TO WORK ON CONGRESS.
THERE IS A, UH, A DILAPIDATED GARAGE ON THAT PROPERTY, PERHAPS CONVERTED INTO AN APU TO PROVIDE TWO RELATIVELY AFFORDABLE STRUCTURES ON THAT LOT.
SO LOOKING AT WAYS TO KEEP THAT HOUSE AND PROVIDE SOME RENT AND PROVIDE INCOME TO THE OTHER.
AND PERHAPS IF THESE NEW NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC DISTRICT TAX INCENTIVE OR INCOME PRODUCING PROPERTIES, MORE OF OUR LANDLORDS IN THE AREA WILL CHOOSE TO REHABILITATE AND UPGRADE THEIR PROPERTIES AS OPPOSED TO SELLING THEM FOR SCRAPERS AND QUESTIONS.
I HEAR NO QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT WASN'T HERE TO REBUT.
[D11. HDP-2020-0479 – Offered for consent approval 5613 Patton Ranch Road Council District 8]
13 PATTON BRANCH ROAD, MR. TOM DANIEL.I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE JEFF HOWARD IS GOING TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE.
IS THIS, UH, SOMEONE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT OR, YES.
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GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD AND SPEAK.THIS IS TOM DANIEL AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT, UM, ST.
ANDREW'S SCHOOL, HER PURCHASES, UH, PROPERTY REPURCHASES PROPERTY A FEW MONTHS AGO.
AND, UM, THE STRUCTURE IS, IS, UH, A DANGER TO, UH, TRESPASSERS TO THE STUDENTS THAT ARE IN SCHOOL THAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
AND THERE'S A PLAN WITH PIONEER FARMS TO RELOCATE THE STRUCTURE, TO SET UP EDUCATIONAL, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STUDENTS, FOR THE CITIZENS OF BOSTON TO STUDY THE STRUCTURE AT PIONEER FORMS ARE ACTUALLY THREE STRUCTURES.
THERE'LL BE MOVED TO PIONEER FARMS. BOB WARD, MIKE WARD HAS HAVE, UH, SUPPORTED THIS PROJECT AND OUR CHAT ABOUT IT AS ARE THE STUDENTS, UM, AT ST ANDREW'S.
AND FOR THOSE REASONS WE, UM, WE, UH, RECOMMENDED THE, UH, BOARD APPROVE THIS, UH, RECONSTRUCTION, RELOCATION, UH, PERMIT.
IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? MIKE MIKE BOARD IS SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE DEMOLITION.
UH, WE HAVE A PLAN, UH, TO, UH, RELOCATE, TO, UH, TAKE THE LOG STRUCTURE, WHICH, UM, I THINK AT LEAST DATES TO THE 1870S, PROBABLY BEFORE THAT, AND, UH, MOVED TO PIONEER FARMS FOR HISTORICAL INTERPRETATION OUT THERE.
UM, IT'S OBVIOUSLY A BUILDING THAT WE FEEL SHOULD BE PRESERVED SOMEHOW AND, UH, WE HAVE A PLAN TO DO SO.
AND, UM, SO WE SUPPORT THIS MOVE AND YOU'RE ALSO INCLUDING IT IN IT.
YOU'RE ALSO MOVING THE, UM, THE LOG BARN AND THE OTHER LUGS STRUCTURE, THE SMALL OUTBUILDING AS WELL.
I THINK IT'S IDENTIFIED AS CRIB.
I THINK IT MAY BE A SMOKE HAMMER THAT'S IN FAIRLY, UH, THAT IT HAS, UH, BUILT OUT OF THE FIVE, A LOG AS THE LAW.
IT'S A NEWARK CONSTRUCTION, UH, SEPARATE CORN CRIB, UH, AN EIGHTH, A MAKESHIFT BARN UP FAR AWAY THAT ALSO DATES TO THE 18 HUNDREDS, UH, INITIAL INSPECTIONS.
THERE'S BEEN, UH, THIS, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN SURVEYED SEVERAL TIMES.
I TEXTED OFF THE TRAVIS COUNTY HISTORICAL PROBATION, UH, THAT I PLAY.
YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED THE PROMINENCE OF THESE BUILDINGS.
I MEAN, FOR PUBLIC INTERPRETATION, UH, WHAT WE PLAN TO DO.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? NO ONE SIGNED UP ANGELA.
I THINK BOB WARD GOT, UM, GOT PERMISSION TO SPEAK IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
AND JAY HOWARD, I, YEAH, BOB WARD HERE.
THIS IS BOB WARD AT THE TRAVIS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION.
UH, W WE SUPPORT THIS, UH, THIS, UH, DEMO PERMIT IS, UH, A LONG RANGE PLAN TO, FOR, TO PRINT, TO, TO PRESERVE THIS, UH, VARIOUS TORQUE STRUCTURE AND TO USE IT AS AN EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR AREA RESIDENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN? YES.
MY NAME IS JOE HOWARD AND I BELIEVE I WAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
YEAH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS JEFF HOWARD AND I AM HERE AS A BOARD MEMBER OF ST.
ANDREW'S SCHOOL TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
UM, WE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY ORIGINALLY IN 2012, AND I WAS PART OF THE LARGER 93 ACRE MILLER TRACK.
AND AFTER EXTENSIVE MASTER PLANNING EFFORT, WE DETERMINED THAT THE 33 SOUTHERN ACRES, WHICH THIS STRUCTURES ON, UH, BAYGON SCHOOL ROBES TOO FAR FROM THE CENTER OF CAMPUS TO BE WALKABLE.
SO WE SOLD THAT PROPERTY TO, UH, RAWSON SAUNDERS SCHOOL.
THEY, UM, THEIR PLANS FOR THE SITE CHANGED, AND WE REACQUIRED THE PROPERTY IN JULY OF 2020, JUST, UH, A FEW MONTHS AGO.
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UM, THERE IS THE STRUCTURE THAT'S MENTIONED, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF, UM, UH, A SUBSTANTIALLY ALTERED IN DISREPAIR RESIDENTS.UM, AND WE HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY TRYING TO MINIMIZE DUMPING AND TRESPASSING AND VANDALISM, UM, BY REPAIRING FENCES GATES, UM, PUTTING APPLY PLYWOOD BOARDS FOR THE, FOR THE WINDOWS AND THE DOORS AND INCREASING SECURITY OF PATROLS.
BUT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UM, THE DUMPING IN AND TRESPASSING HAS PERSISTED.
AND SO WHEN WE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY THIS YEAR IN SEPTEMBER, WE REALIZED WE NEEDED A PERMANENT SOLUTION.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT OPTIONS AND CONTACTED, UH, DAR AND, UH, STARTED WORKING WITH MR. SADOWSKY AND BOB WARD AND MIKE WARD.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SORT OF FEEL LIKE THE BEST OPTION FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN THIS INSTANCE IS FOR IT TO BE, UM, DECONSTRUCTED AND RELOCATED TO PIONEER FARMS WHERE IT CAN BE PART OF A PUBLIC INTERPRETATION AND, UH, AS, AS, AS HISTORIC ARTIFACTS.
AND SO, UM, WE WOULD, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU GRANT THAT REQUEST AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
AND THEN, UM, I, AND BRANDON ARMBRUSTER, WHO IS THE, UH, SORT OF OUR FACILITIES, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER WILL STAY ON THE LINE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? NO ONE ELSE.
[D12. HDP-2020-0494 – Discussion 4310 Rosedale Avenue Council District 10]
LET'S MOVE ON TO D 12.UM, I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSED DEMOLITION OF OUR DETACHED GARAGE.
I'M AN OWNER AT 43 10 ROSEDALE AVENUE, AND THIS IS KNOWN AS THEY CAN TRY TO GO HOUSE, UH, WHICH, UH, I PURCHASED IN 2013, UM, ALONG WITH MY WIFE, JENNIFER LORD, WHO WITH ME.
UM, SO THIS IS SIMPLY A DEMOLITION OF A SINGLE STORY, DILAPIDATED GARAGE AND AN ADJACENT SHED.
UM, WE, UH, HOPE TO MAKE BACKYARD MORE LIVABLE AND HAVE THIS STORAGE SPACE ALSO BE MORE LIVABLE, UM, UH, THAT THIS STRUCTURE IS IN THE BACK OF THE LOT, WELL REMOVED FROM THE, UM, THE ORIGINAL KEN TROUTDALE HOUSE.
UM, AND, UH, THE PROPOSED, UH, SINGLE-STORY ARISE THAT WILL TAKE ITS PLACE IS, UM, ALSO GOING TO BE, UM, SETBACK, UH, BEYOND THE, UH, ADDITION RENOVATION THAT PREVIOUS OWNERS PUT ON TD KEN THREADGILL HOUSE.
UM, SO WE, UH, HOPE THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE IN SUPPORTIVE THIS, UH, THIS PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT.
I BELIEVE OF THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE ORIGINAL
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, JENNIFER? YES.
UM, I'M IN PARADISE AND I JUST WANTED TO ALSO SAY WE ARE ACTIVELY PURSUING, UM, HISTORIC DESIGNATION FOR THESE HEALTH AS WELL.
AND IT JUST LED TO THE, UM, UM, REMOVAL OF THE DILAPIDATED BUILDING AND THAT'S IT KEVIN'S TO DORA.
I LEFT JOE CROWLEY ARCHITECTS AND THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS DEMOLITION AND A NEW ONE-CAR GARAGE.
AND AS DAN AND JEN JUST SPOKE, IT IS THE EXISTING GARAGE STRUCTURE AND DETACHED SHED THAT ARE IN POOR REPAIR.
AND WE ARE LOOKING TO REPLACE IT WITH A NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'LL BE BETTER SUITED FOR THEIR FAMILY AND FOR THE PROXIMITY TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, HAVING SOMETHING MORE AESTHETIC AND MORE ARCHITECTURAL FOR THEM TO ENJOY THEIR LOT WHILE MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE EXISTING FRED GO HOUSE.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION.
IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? NO ONE SIGNED UP, SO THERE'S NO QUESTIONS IN THAT IS THE CLIMATE PORTION.
SHOULD WE TAKE A VOTE TO, UM, IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, STEVE AND ELIZABETH SOMEBODY, YES.
UH, WE ONLY, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS WITH THE STAFF PRESENTATION,
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BECAUSE WE ARE FACED WITH CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR CASE, BUT BECOMES A ZONING CASE, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE DISPOSED OF WITHIN 14 DAYS, WHICH WE DID NOT DO.THEN LET'S GO TO THE STAFF PERSON WE'VE JUST LEFT PUBLIC HEARINGS OPEN, WHICH I THINK IS ALSO OKAY TO DO IN THIS CASE FOR EVERYTHING.
LET'S GO AHEAD WITH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
IF I COULD, WE HAVE 15 CASES THAT WE STILL HAVE OPEN ON OUR AGENDA AND IN THE TIME ALLOTTED BETWEEN NOW AND 10 O'CLOCK, THAT WOULD GIVE US FIVE MINUTES PER CASE.
SO EITHER WE KEEP ON PACE OR WE'LL HAVE TO BE AWARE OF POSSIBLY POSTPONING, IF SOMETHING'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER OR CONSIDER GOING BEYOND TIM, CAN WE CONSIDER THAT AS WE APPROACH 10? ABSOLUTELY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE AWARE.
I THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE AWHILE.
WE SHOULD PROBABLY JUST, I'M LOOKING AT THE TIME TAKING AWAY ON MY COMPUTER EVERY SECOND.
IT IS NOT, IT'S NOT A MYSTERY TO ME.
SOMETIMES I DO NEED A HEADS UP ON TIME.
UM, THE MEASURES, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST COURSES LET'S, UH, WE'LL PROCEED WITH WITH AS MUCH SPEED AS, AS WE CAN AND STAFF PRESENTATIONS.
AND IF WE APPROACH 10 O'CLOCK, THEN WE WILL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR AN EXTENSION OF TIME.
[A1. HDP-2020-0440 – 416 W. 12th Street – Discussion]
GET A ONE.HEY, ONE HAS A CASE THAT YOU ALL HAVE SEEN BEFORE, AND YOU ALL INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING ON THIS HOUSE, ON THIS BUILDING.
SO IT'S UP FOR A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT.
THIS IS A BUILDING, UH, THAT IS LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER AND IT'S LISTING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER CORRESPONDS TO OUR, UH, INDIVIDUAL DESIGNATION CRITERIA FOR ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS.
THEY'RE JUST CALLED DIFFERENT BANKS ON A NATIONAL REGISTER.
UH, I WANNA, I WANNA START OFF BY SAYING THAT I COMPLETELY SYMPATHIZE WITH THE SOCIETY.
I UNDERSTAND OUR WE'VE GOT MANY, MANY PEOPLE.
THEIR BUILDINGS HAVE BECOME A BURDEN TO THEM.
AND, UH, I CERTAINLY AM VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THAT.
UM, I, BUT THIS IS A BUILDING THAT ALMOST AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFIES FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION, AND I CANNOT RECOMMEND THAT IT BE DEMOLISHED.
UH, I THINK THAT DEPENDING ON WHAT THE COMMISSION VOTES THIS EVENING, THIS WILL NEED TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL FOR RESOLUTION.
AND PERHAPS IN THAT TIME, THERE CAN BE, UH, MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A PROPOSAL FOR INCORPORATING MORE OF THIS BUILDING INTO ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OR FINDING ANOTHER BUYER THAT IS WILLING TO USE THE BUILDING AS IT IS.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS, IS TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY BUILDING.
THANK YOU, MR. SEDANS, DO YOU, I THINK WE'VE ALL SEEN THIS.
UM, WE'VE SEEN THE VARIOUS PRESENTATIONS ON IT.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANTS, BUT I THINK IT'S, UM, I, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING.
THE QUESTION OF, FOR PROCEDURAL QUESTION, THIS, THE CITY STAFF REPORTS, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TO GO FROM DMU TO DMU H THE PROPERTY IS NOT THE ZONE DMU G O AND THERE IS A, THERE IS A COLLATERAL CASE RIGHT NOW GOING TO COMMISSION, THEY'VE ASKED FOR D BUT IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED GEO.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MATTERS AS FAR AS NOTICE GOES BECAUSE THE STAFF REPORT SAYS IT'S 200 FOR THE
ACTUALLY IT IS, IT IS LISTED AS BMU ALREADY, UM, IN THE CITY'S ZONING PROFILE.
SO I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT, UH, WHAT THE CASE WAS ADDRESSING, BUT IT IS LISTED AS DMU AND AS WELL AS GEO, UM, SINCE THERE IS NO APPLICATION HERE TO CHANGE THE BASE ZONING, I THINK THAT THIS, THIS CAN PROCEED JUST ON THE, UH, ABILITY OF THIS COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND EIGHT ZONING, NO MATTER WHAT THE BASE ZONING IS, I WILL GO FURTHER THIS
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EVENING.I WILL CERTAINLY INVESTIGATE THAT CORRECT.
ANY INACCURACY, AND I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO RECOMMEND H ZONING REGARDLESS OF THE BASE ZONING.
UH, I'LL I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HE'S ON THE PROPERTY.
I RECOMMEND THE PROPERTY AGE FOR HISTORIC.
UH, H FOR HISTORIC, UNDER CRITERIA, UH, FOR HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS AND ARCHITECTURE.
WOULD ANYBODY SECOND THAT MOTION COMMISSIONER COOK SECONDS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING HISTORIC, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
COMMISSIONER JACOBS, D COMMISSIONER, JACOB, D ARE YOU IN OPPOSITION OR WHAT? OKAY.
UM, MR. JACOB, WE CAN SEE THAT YOU'RE MUTED.
CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF? OKAY.
NOW PLEASE TELL ME YOUR PREFERENCE HERE AGAIN.
SO FEATHERS DONE, AND JACOB EPSTEIN, COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.
IS THAT CORRECT? WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, NO, NOT EIGHT.
DO WE NEED NINE STAFF? DO WE NEED NINE? IT WOULD BE NINE SUPER MAJORITY AT EITHER, BUT HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
COMMISSIONER JACOB, OR FEATHERSTON, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN CHANGING YOUR VOTE? REMEMBER, THIS IS WE'LL BE GOING FURTHER TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEN ON THE CITY COUNCIL, I FEEL SUPER CONFLICTED ABOUT, UM, THE INSTITUTION AND, UM, THEIR, THEIR DESIRE TO SORT OF SAVE THEIR MISSION.
AND, UM, THAT THEY, A LOT OF THEIR PRESENTATION, IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THEY CENTERED IT ON THEMSELVES, THAT THEY SAID, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING SO HARD TO DO OUR MISSION.
UM, BUT ALSO WE STARTED THIS WITHOUT THIS BUILDING.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S LIKE, WELL, IT'S ALMOST IMMATERIAL.
CAUSE IT'S THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDING THAT MATTERS SO MUCH.
UM, AND I'M JUST, I'M JUST SUPER CONFLICTED AND THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T VOTE AGAINST IT.
AND I, I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT EITHER.
AND I JUST HAVE TO SIT AT THE SAME SOMETHING.
THEY, THEY HAVE A MISSION AND I, I I'M TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH IT.
I UNDERSTAND THEIR MISSION, OUR MISSION.
I THINK WE HAVE OUR, OUR MISSION STATEMENT IS TO PROTECT, PRESERVE AND PROMOTE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
AND I THINK THAT THE CASE OF THIS IS WELL-MADE THAT THIS SHOULD BE A LANDMARK.
UM, IT QUALIFIES AS A LANDMARK, UM, ON ITS OWN, REGARDLESS OF NATIONAL REGISTER.
BUT COMMISSIONER JACOB, ARE YOU STAYING WITH AN ABSTENTION, UH, INVOLVED WITH, GO AHEAD AND DO WE NEED TO RETAKE THE VOTE? I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
AND ACTUALLY COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE OUR VIDEO IS, UH, BEHIND IF WE COULD HAVE A VERBAL CONFIRMATION OF BOTH, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY HARD FOR US TO TELL WHAT'S HAPPENING IN REAL TIME.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE, UH, ROLL CALL.
COMMISSIONER HIND, SETH COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA COMMISSIONER.
TELL THAT COMMISSIONER TELL THAT.
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YES.WE HAVE ONE OBSESSION WITH COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.
SHALL WE GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM PLEASE? YEAH, I BELIEVE THE NEXT
[C2. 506 Congress Avenue (C.2a) and 610 Brazos Street (C.2b) – Discussion (Congress Avenue National Register Historic District and Sixth Street National Register Historic District) Council District 9]
ITEM IS C TWO MURAL PROPOSED FOR FIVE OH SIX CONGRESS AVENUE.UH, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED, THIS IS C2 A AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE MURAL PROPOSED FOR SIX, 10 BRAGGA STREET SHOULD BE SEEPED TO BE.
SO THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT IS LIMITED TO FIVE OH SIX CONGRESS COMMISSIONERS.
WE DON'T HAVE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, ANY GUIDELINES FOR MURALS.
SO WE HAD TO LOOK IN OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS OR ON HISTORIC LANDMARKS.
UH, THE DRAFT GUIDELINES THAT, UH, WE FOUND FOR THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN SEEMED VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT.
UH, AND TWO OF THE PROPOSAL OR TWO OF THE PROVISIONS OF THOSE ARE FIRST OF ALL, THAT, WELL, THREE, ACTUALLY THERE NEEDS TO BE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BY THE BUILDING OWNER TO MAINTAIN THEM EURO.
SO IT DOESN'T GET THE AFFIDAVIT.
BUT AS FAR AS THE DESIGN STANDARDS GO, THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE DECIDED THAT A MURAL SHOULD NOT FACE THE MAIN PUBLIC STREET.
IT SHOULD NOT BE ON THE PRINCIPAL FACADE OF THE BUILDING.
IT SHOULD BE ON THE SIDE AND IT SHOULD NOT EXCEED 50% OF THE WALL ON WHICH IT IS PLACED.
SO STAFF TOOK THOSE, UH, GUIDELINES FROM MILWAUKEE, APPLIED IT TO THE PROPOSAL FOR SIX OH SIX CONGRESS AND FOUND THAT IT, UH, THAT IT WOULD NOT CONFORM TO THOSE GUIDELINES.
LAST MONTH WHEN WE BROUGHT THIS UP, UH, OUR, ONE OF OUR PRINCIPLE CONCERNS WAS IT IS RIGHT ON CONGRESS AVENUE.
IT'S NOT ONLY THAT IT IS BETWEEN HISTORIC LANDMARK.
IT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE CONGRESS AVENUE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
NOW THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE NOT APPROVED MURALS IN THE PAST.
WE DID ONE ON THE SIDE OF THE OLD HICKORY STREET BAR AND GRILL ON EIGHTH STREET.
THERE WAS ONE ON THE SIDE OF THE OLD WILD ABOUT MUSIC ON, UH, EAST EIGHTH STREET.
BUT NONE OF THESE WERE FACED CONGRESS AVENUE AND STAFF BELIEVES THAT IT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE TREATMENT OF A BUILDING, WHETHER IT'S CONSIDERED HISTORIC OR NOT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BIGGER CONTEXT OF THE CONGRESS AVENUE, HISTORIC DISTRICT AND STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE BASED UPON THE GUIDELINES PROMULGATED BY THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE IS AS A GUIDE FOR US THAT, UH, THAT WE SHOULD APPROVE THIS COMMISSIONER.
I'M SETH QUICK COLLECTION OF STAFF.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT WERE POSTED ONLY FOR ACTION ON FIVE OH SIX? CONGRESS WAS SIX, 10.
IS THAT GOING TO COME UP AT THE NEXT MEETING? OH, NO, NO, NO, I'M SORRY.
COMMISSIONER SIX 10 IS, WAS, UH, IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
I THOUGHT SIX, 10 BROWSERS WAS ON, UH, I WAS MOVING TOWARD IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
LET ME JUST SAY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MR. OUT, UH, NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.
HE, HE FAILED TO MENTION, FIND HOTEL HAS A GIANT BUREAU FACES CONGRESS.
OKAY, WELL, WE'LL ASK HIM OF THAT COMMISSIONER HIMSELF.
YOU WERE, UH, WELL ACTUALLY I JUST WANTED TO COMPLIMENT THE STAFF FOR DOING SOME OF THIS RESEARCH.
I THINK THIS IS A CLEAR INDICATION THAT WE, WE SHOULD OURSELVES HAVE A POLICY FOR EUROS.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, MY OWN OPINION ON THIS, UH, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH IS THAT THE STAFF IS DEAD RIGHT ON THAT THIS MAY BE AN EXCITING MURAL.
AND I REALLY ENCOURAGE THIS OWNER IN OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UH, BECAUSE I CAN SEE THAT THE NEED AND THE EXCITEMENT AND THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THIS PERCENT.
SO I DON'T WANT US TO GO ON THE RECORD, JUST MAKING IT SEEM LIKE ARTS ON THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS IS NOT APPROPRIATE, BUT THE LOCATION IS EVERYTHING.
AND THE CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING.
AND I THINK THAT A VERY CLEAR DEMONSTRATION IS
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MADE WITH THESE TWO DIFFERENT JUXTAPOSITIONS BECAUSE 16 BRANDS IS NOT ONLY IS ON THE SIDE.UH, IT ALSO IS RELATIVELY COMPATIBLE IN TERMS OF THEME WITH THE TIME PERIOD OF ITS ADJACENT BUILDINGS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT OFFICIALLY CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES, UH, IT BELONGS THERE IN, UH, IN A, IN A WAY THAT THE, UH, IN CONTRAST THE FIVE OH SIX CONGRESS DOES NOT.
SO WE ONLY HAVE OTHER REFERENCES TO GUIDE US.
I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD INSTRUCT THE STAFF TO POST-HASTE SEE IF WE CAN CREATE SOME GUIDELINES TO MAKE IT MORE OBVIOUS SCORE OWNERS IN THE FUTURE, UH, WHAT WE WILL AND WON'T APPROVE, UH, WITH THAT SAID ALSO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE DENY THE REQUEST FOR FIVE OH SIX CONGRESS AND THAT MY MOTION WOULD BE THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND WE APPROVE THE REQUEST AT SIX, 10 BRAZZES.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? THAT COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON SECONDS, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK THIS IS WHOLLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR THIS START DISTRICT.
IT, UM, IT IS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH A THEME, THE APPROACH TO THE CAPITAL.
UM, AND I THINK I W I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO, UM, TO DENY THE MURAL, BUT APPROVE, OKAY.
IS THIS RIGHT TO DENY THE MURAL ON FIVE OH SIX CONGRESS AVENUE, BUT APPROVED SIX, 10 BRAZIL STREET? IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND.
IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION IT'S UNANIMOUS.
[C8. GF-2020-171489 – Offered for consent approval 1615 Waterston Avenue (West Line National Register Historic District) Council District 9]
WATER'S DONE.DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION? OKAY.
UM, THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR 16, 15 WATERSTON AVENUE, ITEM C EIGHT, AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO DEMOLISH IN A NON-CONTRIBUTING METAL SHED.
UM, HOW'S IT, 16, 15 WATERSTON WAS CONSTRUCTED BY CONTRACTOR LEWIS, AUSTIN BACK, UH, BACK AND HIS WIFE OR THE LAND SWINSON BACK, LIVED IN THE HOME UNTIL AFTER 1941.
WHEN IT BECAME A RENTAL PROPERTY, RENTERS INCLUDED VIVIAN WIDER STONE, THE CLERK AT THE BOSS' COMPANY AND HER SON FE AS WELL AS A FAMILY FRIEND, BETH OLIVER.
UM, WHY DOES JOHN AND HIS WIFE RUTH AND OCCUPIED THE HOME? UM, AND AFTER THEY DEPARTED IN THE EARLY 1950S, UH, JD AND BONNIE JOHNSON, WHO WERE A STUDENT AT A CLERK FOR AN INSURANCE COMPANY, MOVED IN AND THEY WERE FOLLOWED BY JB AND BY JB AND YVONNE HAMILTON AND RAYMOND HUERTA, UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS TO, UH, ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION, REUSE THE EXISTING BUILDING, THEN RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, BUT RELATED TO THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, UM, THE COMMISSION MAY ALSO CONSIDER 180 DAYS DEMOLITION DELAY FOR THE CONTRIBUTING HOUSE.
UM, AND, UH, WE ALSO REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION COMMENT ON THE PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
UM, I PROPOSE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS COME TO US, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE COMMISSION'S PLEASURE ABOUT, UM, CONSIDERATION OF THE POSTPONEMENT, AT LEAST TO THE NEXT MEETING.
COMMISSIONER I'M SETH, UM, YOU'RE YOU'RE MUTED.
NORMALLY I WOULDN'T COMMENT BECAUSE I KNOW THE REVIEW COMMITTEE IS GOING TO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF WORK ON THEIR HANDS, BUT IN THIS SITUATION, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THIS ARCHITECT HAS PROPOSED, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY NOT FAR OFF FROM WHAT MIGHT BE A GREAT SOLUTION.
THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN VERY SENSITIVE TO THE SCALE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT DEMOLISHED THE EXISTING FABRIC IN ORDER TO PUT WHAT IS BASICALLY A REPRODUCTION OF WHAT COULD BE FABRIC.
UH, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY A WAY TO MAKE THAT FRONT FACADE OR PERHAPS INCORPORATE THAT EXISTING BUILDING AND STILL ACHIEVE THE REST OF THEIR GOALS FOR WHAT I THINK IS A VERY SYMPATHETIC ADDICTION AND WOULD PROBABLY BE VERY SUCCESSFUL HERE.
THE, THE LITTLE FRONT GABLED AWNING, UM, ENTRY, THE, THE BRACKETS, THE, THOSE ARE ORIGINAL SCREENS ON THOSE HOUSE OR HISTORIC SCREENS ON THE HOUSE.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THOSE.
UM, WELL, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER TO THE JULY OR THE JANUARY MEETING IN ORDER THAT THEY CAN BE, UH, REFERRED TO THE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL
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REVIEW COMMITTEE? IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER COOK, THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE FOR A MONTH AND REFER THIS TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ANY OPPOSED COMMISSIONER JACOB, ARE YOU OPPOSED? OKAY.
[C9. GF-2020-171512 – Discussion 1517 Murray Lane (Old West Austin National Register Historic District) Council District 9]
LANE.UH, COMMISSIONER'S ITEMS. SEE NINE 15, 17 MURRAY LANE IS A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH A CIRCA 1928 CONTRIBUTING HOUSE AND CONSTRUCT A NEW RESIDENCE WITH A SCHOOL AND A SHED.
UM, THE HOUSE THAT 1517 MARIE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1927 AND 1928 BY WILLIAM H AND DEL MORLEY.
MORLEY WAS THE SON OF WJ MORLEY, WHO WAS THE PROPRIETOR OF MORLEY BROTHERS DRUGGIST, UH, WHICH WAS THE OLDEST CONTINUOUSLY OPERATING PHARMACY AND WHOLESALE DRUG MANUFACTURING IN AUSTIN AT THE TIME MORLEY AND HIS BROTHER FAMOUSLY EMPLOYED AUTHOR, OH, HENRY IN THE LATTER HALF OF THE 19TH CENTURY.
UM, AND OH, HENRY ACTUALLY HAS A COUPLE OF SHORT STORIES THAT INVOLVE, UH, HIM WORKING IN A DRUGSTORE.
UM, THE MORLEY BROTHERS BUILDING AT TWO OH NINE EAST SIXTH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN LANDMARK, A S K MORLEY'S HOUSE AT FIVE 10 BAYLOR STREET IS LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER AND IS ALSO AN AUSTIN LANDMARKS AS K MORLEY.
WILLIAM H MORLEY'S UNCLE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH MORLEY DRUG MANUFACTURER MANUFACTURING BUSINESS AFTER THE SALE OF THE SIXTH STREET DRUG STORE IN THE EARLY 1930S.
HOWEVER, WILLIAM MORLEY CONTINUED TO RUN THE DRUG MANUFACTURING AND WHOLESALE BUSINESS FROM HIS HOME AT 1517 MARY LANE.
UM, MORLEY'S PRODUCTS WERE SOLD UNDER MULTIPLE MANUFACTURER NAMES, INCLUDING THE CACTUS WINE MORLEY DRUG COMPANY, AND WH MORLEY WHOLESALE AFTER HIS DEATH IN 1948, UH, DEL MORLEY CONTINUED TO LIVE IN THE HOME AND ADDING ON TO THE MAIN STRUCTURE AND RENTING IT OUT.
UM, THE, UH, THE FORMER MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN THE BACK TO KIND OF DEL MORLEY SOLD THE HOUSE IN 1961.
AND AT THAT POINT, IT WAS OCCUPIED BY A SERIES OF SHORT TERM OWNERS OF RENTERS UNTIL AT LEAST 1992.
UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PROPERTY, UM, IF THE COMMISSION FEELS THAT THE HOME IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE MORLEY FAMILY BUSINESS LEGACY, UH, THAT THEY SHOULD CONSIDER INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING, UM, OTHERWISE COMMENT ON PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND RELATES TO DEMOLITION PERMIT OF CRON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
UM, AND BECAUSE THIS IS A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING TO A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS, THE COMMISSION MAY ALSO CONSIDER 180 DAY DEMOLITION DELAY FOR THE CONTRIBUTING HOUSE.
COMMISSIONERS, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE TO POSTPONE THE CASE OF 1517 MARY LANE TO THE JANUARY 20TH MEETING AND REFER THE APPLICANT, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE IN THE INTERIM.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? COMMISSIONER WRIGHT SECONDS, THE MOTION, I AGREE.
IT SAYS THIS IS A VERY INTACT BUILDING IN A VERY INTACT STREET.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE CONNECTION TO THE MORLEY FAMILY.
A LITTLE BIT MORE IF WE COULD, BUT I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THIS GO TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
I DON'T SEE, UM, WHY THE FRONT PART OF THIS BUILDING TO THE REFRIDGE LINE.
UM, COULDN'T BE SAVED IN ADDITION MADE TO THE HOUSE.
UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION I HAVE THE SAME COMMENTS, AND IT'S ALSO NOT ONLY RELATION DELAY.
IT DOES ALSO THE POTENTIAL MAKINGS FOR LANDMARK.
I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE TWO TOOLS THAT ARE DISPOSABLE AND THE REPLACEMENT IS OF A STYLE THAT IS VERY, VERY PARTICULAR TO A UNIQUE CONTEXT.
THAT IS NOT, THIS IS NOT THIS.
SO, YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE IT AND REFER IT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE IN JANUARY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ANY OPPOSED MOST OF YOUR FEATHERS DONE? OKAY.
UM, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON WAS THE ONLY OPPOSITION TO THAT MOTION.
[C11. GF-2020-180133 – Offered for consent approval 1510 Palma Plaza (Old West Austin National Register Historic District) Council District 9]
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IS AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH AND 1923 HOUSE AT 15, 10 PALMA PLAZA THAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1923 BY HOWARD AND AUGUSTA OSBOURNE WHO LIVED HERE FOR 20 YEARS.
MR. OSBOURNE WAS A REAL ESTATE AND INSURANCE MAN.
HE STARTED HIS CAREER WITH THE ENFIELD INSURANCE AGENCY AND WAS PARTNERS WITH MURRAY AND NOW'S GRAHAM, WHO ARE THE DEVELOPERS OF OLD ENFIELD.
UH, IN THE 1930S, HE WENT ON TO MILLIKEN AND HAMBY, WHICH WAS A SUCCESSOR TO ENFIELD.
AND, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, UH, HIS WIFE AUGUSTA BECAME THE MANAGER OF THE AUSTIN COUNTRY CLUB.
SHE HAD PREVIOUSLY MANAGED THE AUSTIN CLUB DOWNTOWN.
UH, THEY MOVED TO THE COUNTRY CLUB IN THE LATE 1930S AND RENTED THIS HOUSE OUT, THEN MOVED BACK IN, STAYING IN AROUND 1940 AND STAYED HERE UNTIL 1943.
MRS. OSBOURNE IS AS SIGNIFICANT AS MIND AS HER HUSBAND.
NOT ONLY WAS SHE THE MANAGER OF THE AUSTIN COUNTRY CLUB AND THE AUSTIN CLUB, TWO OF THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS CLUBS IN THE CITY, BUT SHE ALSO RAN A LENDING LIBRARY AT THE RENFRO DRUG STORE ON WEST 12TH STREET.
AND SHE WAS ORIGINALLY A RENFRO.
SO SHE APPARENTLY HAD A, SHE KNEW SOMEBODY, BUT STILL HER, UH, HER BUSINESS ACUMEN AND ABILITY TO MAINTAIN TO THE MANAGER SHIP OF TWO VERY IMPORTANT CLUBS IN THE CITY.
AND THEN WORKING TO ESTABLISH A LENDING LIBRARY AT THE DRUGSTORE REALLY MAKE HER STAND OUT AS A PROMINENT WOMAN OF HER TIME.
HER HUSBAND, UH, EVENTUALLY OPENED HIS OWN REAL ESTATE BUSINESS AND BECAME A DEVELOPER HIMSELF, UH, INCLUDING UPLAND, WHICH WAS CENTERING ON CONCORDIA AVENUE, JUST EAST OF THE FREEWAY, UH, AROUND 1943, THE OSBOURNES MOVED TO TARRYTOWN.
THEY SPENT THE REST OF THEIR LIVES AT, UH, THEIR HOUSE ON HOPI TRAIL.
THIS HOUSE WAS THEN RENTED OUT AND CONVERTED TO A DUPLEX IN 1962, AN ADDITIONAL UNIT TO MAKE IT A TRIPLEX.
WAS THAT IN 1963 AND THE HOUSE ALSO KIND OF TELLS THE STORY OF THE SEMI DECLINE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE OSBOURNES WERE MIDDLE TO UPPER MIDDLE CLASS.
WHEN THIS FIRST HOUSE WAS RENTED OUT AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, THE TENANTS WERE DEFINITELY MIDDLE-CLASS AS IT BECAME A DUPLEX AND THEN A TRIPLEX, THE TENANTS WERE, UH, STUDENTS AND MORE BLUE COLLAR, UH, OCCUPATIONS IN THE HOUSE.
THIS, UH, THE APPLICANT DID COME TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AT THE END OF LAST MONTH.
AND AT THAT POINT, THE COMMITTEE, UM, DIDN'T REALLY CONSIDER WHETHER THIS HOUSE SHOULD BE RECOMMENDED FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
UH, THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS TO TRY TO USE THE HOUSE, WHICH IS WHAT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS AS WELL.
SO THIS IS A CONTRIBUTING HOUSE.
THE, UH, COMMISSION CAN POSTPONE THIS FOR UP TO 180 DAYS FROM TODAY.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT IT IS ON THIS AGENDA.
UH, AND THAT IS WHAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS.
THE APPLICANTS DON'T HAVE PLANS FOR THE NEW, UH, NEW DUPLEX THAT ARE COMPLETELY FLESHED OUT.
SO, UH, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS TIME TO DO IT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANTS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THIS HOUSE CAN BE DEMOLISHED BEFORE THEY COMMIT A LOT OF MONEY TO DEVELOPING PLANS FOR SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT EVER BE BUILT HERE.
UH, BUT STAFF'S OPINION IS THIS HOUSE DOES HAVE BOTH ARCHITECTURAL MERIT.
UH, IT'S CLIPPED GABLES ARE VERY PROMINENT AND ALSO SOME HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST 20 YEARS WITH HOWARD AND AUGUSTA OSBOURNE.
SO I THINK, WOW, I'M NOT GOING TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE HOUSE AT THIS POINT.
I THINK IT IS WORTH CONSIDERING IF THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES TO DEMOLITION AND A POSTPONEMENT MIGHT BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE.
UM, IS THERE, UH, AN EMOTION TO THAT EFFECT OR ANY EFFECT WAKE UP? I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DELAY THIS TO PLUS BONUS TO THE JANUARY MEETING.
I THINK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANTS TO, TO RETAIN THIS HOUSE AND BUILD AND BUILD
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NEW CONSTRUCTION AND PERHAPS ON THE REMAINDER OF THE LOT.DO YOU HEAR A SECOND, MS. WRIGHT COMMISSIONER, RIGHT.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO POSTPONE THIS TO THE JANUARY, MEETING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, RAISE YOUR HAND.
UH, IT'S UNANIMOUS, UH, EXCEPT FOR FEATHERSTON COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON, UH, IS OPPOSED.
SO THIS IS POSTPONE TO THE JANUARY MEETING.
[D2. HDP-2020-0400 – Offered for consent approval 1400 Drake Avenue Council District 9]
OUR NEXT CASE UP IS THE FIRST OF OUR DEMOLITIONS AT 1400 DRAKE AVENUE.THIS HAS BEEN ON OUR AGENDA BEFORE AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION UNFORTUNATELY REMAINS THE SAME.
UH, DESPITE AND STAFF ALSO WANTS TO REITERATE THAT WE ARE 100% BEHIND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS AND THE CO-LAB THAT IT IS MOVING FORWARD.
UH, BUT EVEN, EVEN WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS HOUSE AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THE EVIDENCE, THE EVIDENCE HERE DOES NOT SUPPORT THAT RATIONALE.
SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW.
UH, DOES IT, DOES IT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR ARCHITECTURE OR HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS AND STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE, BUT IT DOES.
UH, IT REFLECTS BLUE COLLAR HOUSING IN SOUTH AUSTIN, WHICH IS FAIRLY TYPICAL FOR MANY NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS JUST REALLY AREN'T THERE.
SO STAFF MUST VERY RELUCTANTLY RECOMMEND RELEASE OF THE APARTMENT.
UH, ASHLEY RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION THEN RELEASE TO THE APARTMENT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
UM, UH, MR. SEDOWSKY, IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION THAT WE SHOULD MAKE, UM, BASED ON, UM, SOME OF THE TESTIMONY THAT MARCIE HER NO LONGER OWNS THE PROPERTY? THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY DELEGATION OF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT THAT I'M ON APPLICATION THAT I'M AWARE OF.
UM, HE WAS, UH, HE WAS AUTHORIZED TO MAKE THAT APPLICATION.
SO I DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE LEGAL STAFF ON RIGHT NOW, GENERALLY.
UH, I THINK WE, WE, WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AND THEN IF THE NEW OWNER FINDS A WAY TO PRESERVE THIS, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO EXECUTE ON THE PERMIT.
JAIME'S SETH IN REFERENCE TO THE STATUS OF THE, UH, REGISTER DISTRICT AND, UH, ACTUALLY ONE OF THE, UH, APPLICANTS, UH, NOT THIS ONE, I BELIEVE TALKED ABOUT KNOWING THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE THEIR CASES REVIEWED FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
DO WE KNOW THE TIMING IS SUCH THAT WHERE THIS PERMIT SHOULD BE EXPEDITED, THAT WE IN FACT WOULD BE ABLE TO REVIEW WHAT REPLACES IT.
THERE IS NO INDICATION OF THAT HAPPENING BEFORE THE JANUARY MEETING COMMISSIONER.
AND UNFORTUNATELY ON THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, IT'S ALREADY BEEN BEFORE THE COMMISSION TWICE.
SO A DECISION HAS TO COME TONIGHT SO THAT WE CAN JUST HOPE THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THERE'S, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS, AND WE KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGE PROGRAM FOR A PRINCIPAL WAS FOR THE DISTRICT, BUT THE PERCENTAGE OF CONTRIBUTING, OR IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? SO THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF OWNERS THAT APPROVED OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BEING LISTED, WAS IT A CLOSE AND NATIONAL REGISTER, INTERNATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT? THEY DON'T TAKE OWNERS SIGN ON.
WE HAD NO OPPOSITION TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE OWNERS SIGN ON ITS OWNER, SIGN OFF, UH, IS THE, IS A PROTOCOL FOR NATIONAL REGISTER.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT IS ON SEPTEMBER 12TH.
IT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY, UH, BY THE BOARD TO RECOMMEND IT TO THE KEEPER.
AND IT'S STILL, UM, IN THE HANDS OF
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THC STAFF, THEY HAVE SENT ME OFF ON AN EXPEDITION TO DOCUMENT MORE SHEDS AND GARAGES AND ALLEYS, I GUESS, COMMISSIONER MYERS, WHO KNOWS THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS LARGELY IN FAVOR OF THIS BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING AN ALARMING NUMBER OF DEMOLITION PERMITS FOR THIS HISTORIC DISTRICT.WE, WE HAD, WE HAD A CORE GROUP THAT WAS IN FAVOR.
THE, UH, PROPER NOTIFICATION WAS GIVEN TO, UM, TO PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT, ACCORDING TO THC PROTOCOL.
AND TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NO ONE WROTE AN OPPOSITION.
AND AT THE STATE BOARD MEETING, WHICH WAS A VIRTUAL MEETING, WE HAD NO IN OPPOSITION.
AND HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO THE CONTRIBUTING NON-CONTRIBUTING WITH THE, UM, NUMBER OF DEMOLITION PERMITS THAT WE'RE SEEING? ARE WE GETTING CLOSE TO THE DISTRICT? NOT BEING VIABLE? UH, WE'RE LOSING GROUND EVERY TIME.
I JUST, I JUST, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AT NATIONAL REGISTERED NOMINATION WENT IN, IN SEPTEMBER AND RIGHT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT, WE STARTED SEEING DEMOLITION PERMITS FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SOMETIMES HAPPENS.
IT HAPPENED IN WESTLINE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT HA IT HAS HAPPENED A COUPLE OF TIMES AND ELSEWHERE, BUT YEAH, WE ARE.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE REALIZED THEY WERE IN A DISTRICT OF SOME SORT AND THEY PUT IN THEIR APPLICATIONS TO DEMOLISH.
I MEAN THAT'S YEAH, THAT UNFORTUNATELY.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE CASE? I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, GO WITH STAFF, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, YES.
IS THAT A SECOND COMMISSIONER COOK? OKAY.
I'M GOING, UH, WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO RELEASE THE PERMIT WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, THAT INCLUDES PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL FACADES, UH, DIMENSIONAL, UM, SKETCH DRAWINGS AND HISTORIC NARRATIVE FOR ARCHIVING.
SO I GUESS I MADE THE MOTION COMMISSIONER COOK SECOND TO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND COMMISSIONER.
IT'S UNANIMOUS, UH, RELEASE THE PERMIT.
COMMISSIONER MEYERS, YOU VOTED AGAINST IT AND YOU VOTED AGAINST IT.
COMMISSIONER TALA VOTED FOR, I APOLOGIZE.
[D3. HDP-2020-0410 – Discussion 815 W. 11th Street Council District 9]
UH, D THREE.UH, COMMISSIONER'S ITEM D THREE HAS ALSO BEEN BEFORE YOU BEFORE IT'S AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH THE 1911 HOUSE LOCATED AT EIGHT 15 WEST 11TH STREET.
THIS HOUSE REPRESENTS MIDDLE-CLASS MIDDLE-CLASS HOUSING TYPE IN AUSTIN.
AT THE TIME IT WAS BUILT, UH, IT RETAINS A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF INTEGRITY AND, UH, ITS OCCUPANTS ALSO WERE VERY MIDDLE-CLASS AND THAT, SO IT REPRESENTS DEFINITELY A TYPE OF HOUSING UNDER OUR CONSIDERATIONS FOR DESIGNATION.
THE MOST LONG-TERM, UH, OCCUPANT OF THE HOUSE WAS A WIDOW NAMED GRETTA CATTERALL.
UH, SHE LIVED HERE FROM RIGHT AFTER WORLD WAR II UNTIL AROUND 1970, OUR OLD 1984 SURVEY FOUND THIS AS A PRIORITY TOO.
AND THAT WAS PRIMARILY AN ARCHITECTURAL, UH, CRITERIA BECAUSE THEY DID NOT DO ANY RESEARCH INTO THE HOUSES, BUT PRIORITY TWO INDICATED THAT THERE WAS DEFINITELY ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST IN THIS, IN THIS HOUSE THAT WARRANTED FURTHER INVESTIGATION.
UH, STAFF WENT THROUGH OUR CRITERIA AND IN, IN ALL HONESTY, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO JUSTIFY THIS, BUT THE STAFF, UH, STEP ALSO WANTS TO SAY, THIS WOULD BE A TOTAL SHAME TO LOSE THIS HOUSE.
THIS IS A VERY VIABLE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THIS IS A STREET THAT MAINTAINS A LEVEL OF INTEGRITY.
THAT IS VERY RARE IN THE WEST PART OF DOWNTOWN, UH, THE CHARM OF WEST
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AVENUE AND 11TH STREET AND WEST NINTH AND 10TH, UH, GOING DOWN THE HILL TOWARD THE CREEK ARE, IS IMPERILED.AND ALL OF THESE OLDER HOUSES LEAD TO THE CHARACTER OF THE WEST END OF DOWNTOWN.
THESE ARE ALL HAVE ALL BEEN TRANSFORMED INTO OFFICES VERY SUCCESSFULLY.
SO DESPITE THE FACT THAT I, I CAN'T HONESTLY MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR THIS HOUSE.
I WANT TO EXPRESS THAT, THAT, UH, THE APPLICANTS FOR THE DEMOLITION PERMIT SHOULD REALLY, REALLY RECONSIDER WHETHER DEMOLITION IS AN APPROPRIATE ACTION HERE.
THIS IS A HOUSE THAT COULD EASILY BE CONVERTED TO AN OFFICE USE.
IT'S BEEN DONE ALL OVER THAT SECTION OF DOWNTOWN AND WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING, EVEN THOUGH WE SHOULDN'T BE TAKING THIS INTO CONSIDERATION IS GOING TO BE HUGELY DETRIMENTAL TO THE CONTINUING CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT AND WILL LIKELY RESULT IN ENCOURAGING MORE DEMOLITIONS.
SO, UH, WHILE STAFF CAN'T FIND THE JUSTIFICATION FOR RECOMMENDING HISTORIC ZONING FOR THIS HOUSE, UH, IT'S A, IT'S AN EXTREMELY RELUCTANT, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER COOK, SOMEONE MOVED TO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE RELOCATION OR RETENTION OVER DEMOLITION THAT RELEASED A DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY.
WHOSE SECOND DAY, RAISE YOUR HAND.
THEN THE MOTION IS TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT WITH THE ART CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, PACKAGE AND COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTONE.
I THINK THIS IS A REAL CHICK, UH, SHAME TO LIZ'S HOUSE.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF, OF HISTORIC ZONING, BUT I WISH IT DID.
UM, AND THE ONLY REASON THAT IT DOESN'T IS SOME OF THE, THE REMOVAL OF THE PORCH POLICIES AND OF THE ALTERATIONS TO THE BUILDING, UH, REALLY ENCOURAGED THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GO FORWARD WITH A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
THAT'S DO WE HAVE IN FAVOR? KEEP YOUR HANDS UP.
ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX IN FAVOR, ALL THOSE OPPOSED.
WE HAVE SIX IN FAVOR RELEASING FIVE.
CAN THAT WAIT, COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA.
IS, WOULD THE OPPOSITION PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AGAIN? TWO, THREE, FOUR POST.
COMMISSIONERS COACHERS HOST THE NEXT CASE ON ACADEMY.
[D4. HDP-2020-0424 – Offered for consent approval 514 Academy Drive Council District 9]
COMMISSIONERS.THIS IS ITEM D FOR, UM, A PROPOSAL TO DEMOLISH THE CIRCA 1929 HOUSE.
THEN BEFORE I BEGIN, I'D JUST LIKE TO ECHO MR.
UM, WE, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
UM, UH, LIKE I SAID, THIS PROPOSAL IS TO DEMOLISH A CIRCA 1929 HOUSE.
UM, FIVE 14 ACADEMY DRIVE WAS BUILT IN 1929 BY TC STEINER.
UH, ITS FIRST OWNER OCCUPANTS, WILLIAM AND ROSE, A POOREST OWNED AND OCCUPIED OP OPERATED THE POST OFFICE CAFE AT, UM, WEST SIXTH STREET, UH, FROM AT LEAST 1935 UNTIL THE END OF THE DECADE, THE CROWFOOT FAMILY RENTED THE HOUSE.
UM, WW CROWFOOT WAS AN INSURANCE SALESMAN.
WELL, FLORENCE CROWFOOT WAS REGISTRAR AND LIBRARIAN FOR AUSTIN HIGH AND ALLEN JUNIOR HIGH FROM THE MID 1940S TO THE EARLY FIFTIES NURSE.
BONNIE MULLINS RENTED THE HOUSE, UM, FOLLOWED BY CONSTRUCTION WORKER T WARREN AND HIS WIFE GUSSIE, UM, AND A 1969 OWNER, UH, CARL SMITH.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PROPERTY IS REGRETTABLY TO RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, A CONSISTENT PHOTOGRAPH OF ALL ELEVATIONS AS MENTIONED SKETCH PLAN
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IN A NARRATIVE HISTORY FOR ARCHIVING AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER.THANK YOU, MS. CONTRARES COMMISSIONER.
AND TH THIS WAS BEFORE US, UH, LAST MONTH, WAS THAT CORRECT? YES.
AND IT WENT TO THE, UM, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
DID IT COME BEFORE US LAST TIME? IT WENT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
SO THERE WAS SOME REFERENCE TO THAT, BUT WAS IT, SO THERE WAS, UH, WHAT WE, WHAT, WHAT WE SAW WAS, WAS ACTUALLY A, UM, A NEW PLAN JUST NOW, WAS THAT PRESENTED TO YOU AT THIS TIME THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
AND THEY ARE NOT INCLINED TO MAKE FURTHER REVISIONS OR, UM, RETAIN THE HOUSE.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THE CASE? YES.
COMMISSIONER COOK TO FOLLOW THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, TO ENCOURAGE RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION THAT RELEASED THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
IS THERE A SECOND COMMISSIONER JACOBS SECONDS, THE MOTION? AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE ON THESE AND A NUMBER OF THEM TONIGHT.
I WISH I'M VOTING THE CASE AT HAND.
AND THE CASE AT HAND IS SOLELY DOES THIS RISE TO THE LEVEL OF LANDMARK AND ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS AROUND IT? SAD THOUGH, THEY MAY BE, CANNOT BE A FACTOR IN THE DECISION.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING THESE MOTIONS.
UM, BUT I THINK THERE'S, NO, I THINK THAT THERE'S NO INCLINATION TO CHANGE THEIR PLANS ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE AND THE HOUSE DOESN'T RISE TO THE LEVEL OF, UH, INDIVIDUAL LANDMARK STATUS.
I'M INCLINED TO AGREE WITH, WITH ONE CLARIFICATION, WHICH IS THAT OUR ACTIONS DO HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
AND SO EVEN THOUGH TECHNICALLY WE ARE HAVING THE MERITS OF THIS CASE, THE IMPACT OF THIS BUILDING BEING GONE ON THE SOON TO BE, UH, EXCEPTED, HOPEFULLY, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT IS, IS CONSEQUENTIAL.
IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER ACTION THAT WOULD HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT, UH, I WOULD TEND TO AGREE, UH, I, BUT I, I TEND TO HAVE TO JUST ACCEPT REALITY.
UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MORE TOOLS IN OUR, IN OUR TOOLKIT, BUT IT JUST, IT IS ONE OF THOSE THAT IS SEVERAL OF THESE WILL BE REGRETTABLE.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH IT PAINS ME TO AGREE WITH HIM.
UM, ON THIS, I, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, WE HAVE A LOT OF PLACES IN, UH, IN, UH, TRAVEL SITES WHERE THERE IS MORE NEW CONSTRICT CONSTRUCTION, MORE NEW CONSTRUCTION.
UM, BUT THIS PARTICULAR STREET, UH, OF ACADEMY, UM, NEW CONSTRUCTION IS NOT DOESN'T PREVAIL.
IT'S, UH, AN ANOMALY AND THIS WOULD BE A BIG ANOMALY ON THE STREET.
AND I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT I OFTEN TELL PEOPLE THAT THIS POSITION FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE PROMOTERS OF PRESERVATION IS A LITTLE BIT OF TORTURE BECAUSE MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, WE ARE PUT IN THE POSITION OF HAVING TO RELEASE DEMOLITION PERMITS, BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTION WHERE WE COULD SIT IN A COURT OF LAW AND TESTIFY THAT WE, WE COULD NOT MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT DOESN'T QUALIFY AS A LANDMARK.
AND IF THAT IS THE CASE, WE ARE OBLIGATED TO VOTE FOR DEMOLITION THOUGH.
YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP AVERAGE IS GOING TO KIND OF ECHO EVERYONE'S SENTIMENT.
BUT YOU KNOW, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CAME TOGETHER TO FUND THE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE THESE RESOURCES WERE IMPORTANT AND SIGNIFICANT TO THEM.
AND TO BE A PART OF WATCHING THEM GO DOWN ONE BY ONE, IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING I CAN DO WHEN THAT'S ALL THE POLA KAUFMAN, UH, SPOKE ON ALL OF THESE IN OPPOSITION.
WE HAD MULTIPLE LETTERS FROM, FROM NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR OVER 15 YEARS NOW.
SO, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER COOK'S MOTION, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JACOB, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, ALL THOSE OPPOSED.
I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE HAD A COMMISSIONER THERE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
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COMMISSIONER MYERS IN GOVERNANCE, VOTING IN OPPOSITION, UM,[D5. HDP-2020-0431 – Discussion McPhail’s Florist – 605 Barton Springs Road Council District 9]
D FIVE MIC FAILS FLORIST.YES, IT'S COMMISSIONER'S ITEM D FIVE IS AN APPLICATION FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE REMAINING BUILDINGS AT MACPHAIL IS FLORES SIX OH FIVE BARTON SPRINGS ROAD.
THESE BUILDINGS WERE BUILT IN 1928.
AND UNTIL VERY RECENTLY, WHEN MCPHAIL WAS FINALLY CLOSED EASY, THEY WERE OPERATED BY THE MACPHAIL FAMILY AS A FLORIST.
IN FACT, AT ONE POINT THEY WERE 24 HOUR FLORIST.
SO IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN THE NEED OF FLOWERS AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, THIS WAS A PLACE THAT YOU COULD GO AND GET THEM.
UH, THE MR. MACPHAIL STARTED OFF IN THE GROCERY BUSINESS, BUT LIKE SEVERAL OF HIS SIBLINGS THAT MOVED UP FROM BEAUMONT TO AUSTIN, THEY SETTLED IN THE BARTON SPRINGS ROAD AREA, WHICH AT THE TIME WAS A RURAL ROAD WITH TRUCK FARMS AND FLOWER FARMS BASED ON THE FERTILE SOIL OF THE COLORADO RIVER.
SO THIS, THIS COMPLEX WHERE THE MACPHAIL IS LIVED, HAD THEIR GREENHOUSES, UH, HAD THEIR FLOURISH SHOP.
THIS IS THE LAST REMNANT OF THAT HISTORY OF BARTON SPRINGS ROAD.
AND THIS, THIS AREA OF THE CITY, IT'S A BUILDING THAT ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THE CITY KNOWS.
AND IT IS SO UNFORTUNATE THAT IT FELL INTO SUCH DISREPAIR AFTER THE MACPHAIL WAS CLOSED.
UH, THE FLORIST BUSINESS THAT IT'S UP FOR CONDEMNATION AT THIS POINT HAS UNSAFE STRUCTURES.
UH, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO RECOMMEND THIS AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK, BECAUSE I THINK ANYBODY WHO HAS SPENT THEIR LIVES IN AUSTIN KNOWS THIS FLOWER SHOP, AND MOST PEOPLE HAVE, UH, SENTIMENTAL ATTACHMENTS TO IT.
IT HAS, UH, THE RUSTIC PICTURESQUE ARCHITECTURE OF THE ARCH THAT YOU USED TO WALK THROUGH IN THE GREENHOUSE RIGHT THERE, UH, THAT IS REALLY MAKES THIS COMPLEX, SPECIAL AND IDENTIFIABLE.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, AS I SAID, IT HAS FALLEN INTO SUCH DISREPAIR THAT, UH, THERE ARE MANY, MANY MAJOR CODE VIOLATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO IF NOTHING ELSE, UH, I THINK STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE, INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF INITIATING HISTORIC ZONING ON THE SITE, BUT MORE, I THINK OF A RECOGNITION OF WHAT MACPHAIL FLORES MEANT TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND AS A RELIC OF WHAT BARTON SPRINGS ROAD AND THIS WHOLE AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE RIVER USED TO BE.
SO I THINK THE BEST STAFF RECOMMENDATION HERE IS TO RELEASE THE APARTMENT AND, UH, HAVE A CITY'S A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE THAT WE CAN ARCHIVE AT THIS RECENTER.
THANK YOU, MR. SEDOWSKY, MR. HEINSOHN.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S, UH, COMMENTARY AND ALSO THE RESEARCH ON THIS.
AND I THINK IT'S IRONIC THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION AND PROBABLY COMMUNITY VALUE.
SO ON A CASE WHERE THE ARCHITECTURE ITSELF IS THE PROBLEM, AND IT'S NOT JUST THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDING, BUT ALSO SOME OF THE HODGEPODGE THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE, YOU KNOW, MORE RECENT CONSTRUCTIONS, UM, WHERE THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE CURRENT OWNERS WANT TO SIFT THROUGH.
I THINK THIS IS THE MESSAGE I'D LIKE TO CONVEY.
THERE ARE PIECES OF THIS THAT COULD MAKE A VERY STRONG CASE WHERE THE ARCHITECTURE TO BE, UH, BROUGHT FORWARD IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY.
AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT I WOULD HOPE WE WOULD, UH, SEND AS A MESSAGE.
UM, BUT SHORT OF THAT, WE HAVE AN ACTION THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO MAKE, AND I WILL MOVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
DO I HEAR A SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH,
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IF, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE MAKER AND SECONDARY SECONDARY MATTER, UM, THAT ALL FACADES OF ALL THE RESOURCES BE PHOTOGRAPHED, UH, AS PART OF THE DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, SO THAT, SO THAT WE HAVE SOME CONCEPT OF THE COMPLEX, UM, ALL
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THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.THE MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY TO RELEASE THE DOCTOR, THE PACK, UM, THE PERMIT, UH, TODAY,
[D6. HDP-2020-0453 – Offered for consent approval 1414 Alameda Drive Council District 9]
UH, DCX 14, 14 ALAMEDA IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS.IT IS AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH THERE A 1932 HOUSE.
UM, THIS BUILDING AT 14, 14 ALAMEDA WAS CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTED AROUND 1932 BY GEORGE BARNHART.
IT SERVED AS A RENTAL PROPERTY UNTIL AROUND 1939 C H SLATER, A LOCAL LAWYER PURCHASED THE HOUSE THAT YEAR AND LIVED THERE UNTIL HIS MARRIAGE TO MILDRED EDGAR IN 1947.
UM, THOUGH HE DIDN'T LIVE IN THE HOUSE BY THIS TIME IN 1954, UH, FLOODED WAS PART OWNER OF THE ICONIC TAVERN RESTAURANT AT 12TH STREET IN THE MARBLE LAVARD HOUSE ON ALAMEDA REMAINED VACANT UNTIL 1955 WHEN NAVAL SERVICE THEM RANSOM T LUCAS AND HIS WIFE, NANCY LUCAS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS IS AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY TO RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DESKTOP PATIENT PACKAGE.
AND IF THE ITEM DID COME BEFORE Y'ALL, UM, LAST MONTH, THEN IT DID GO BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AS WELL.
COMMISSIONER COOK, DEMOLITION PERMIT ON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
UH, IS THERE A SECOND, JACOB? UM, HAD HIS HAND UP FIRST.
THE MOTION IS TO RELEASE THE PACKAGE.
WE'VE SEEN THIS TWICE NOW IN WHICH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, I THINK THERE'S NO, UH, FURTHER, UM, MOVEMENT ON THIS, UM, PROPERTY.
UM, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE, NOMINATE THE MOTION ANYWAY, UH, WITH ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ANYONE OPPOSED? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AGAIN.
WE HAVE SEVEN IN FAVOR TWO IN OPPOSITION.
THAT'S COMMISSIONER MYERS AND VALANZUELA.
[D7. GF-2020-175404 – Offered for consent approval 1016 Avondale Road Council District 9]
YEAH,THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION OR, UM, AND IT HAS NOT GONE TO THE COMMITTEE.
CAN WE GET, UM, PRESENTATION? YES.
THIS IS ELIZABETH BRUMMETT WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.
UH, THIS IS A 1968 HOUSE THAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE PENDING TRAVIS HEIGHTS, HISTORIC DISTRICT.
UNFORTUNATELY, BASED ON THAT STATE OF CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE RELATIVELY LIMITED INFORMATION ABOUT THE HOUSE.
UH, WE KNOW, BASED ON BUILDINGS BY HOME BUILDERS, CHAMBERS AND BRYANT, UH, OCCUPANCY HISTORY FROM THIS ERA IS CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE.
UH, THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER IS CLOSED DUE TO COVID.
UH, SO WE'RE RELYING ON ONLINE RESOURCES AND THIS IS A GAP IN WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACCESS.
UH, WE DO KNOW FROM NEWSPAPER ARCHIVES THAT JOE ALLEN WELLS LIVED IN THE HOUSE IN 1979, HE OWNED IT UNTIL 2000.
HE WAS A MANAGER OF SOUTHWEST PAINT AND BODY SHOP.
UM, SO STAFF JUST, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS RELEASE OF THE, UH, PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT.
UM, I'LL SHOW THE, UM, THE PROPOSED WORK AGAIN, THERE IS SOME MODIFICATION OF THE EXISTING WINDOW OPENINGS TO MAKE THOSE LARGER, UH, THE FRONT DOOR MOVES FROM THE CENTER BAY, THE HOUSE, UH, DOWN TO, UM, THE ADDITION THAT'S PUT OVER THE, UH, THE CAR PORT WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS CURRENTLY THE BAY WHERE THE FRONT END CURRENT IS.
SO IT'S A SECOND STORY ADDITION OVER THIS END OF THE HOUSE, TAKING THE CAR PORT OCCUPIED SPACE.
IT'S A RELATIVELY LIMITED DEMOLITION.
UH, THE DEMOLITION IS CONCENTRATED ON THAT END WALL OF THE HOUSE, UH, BUT IT IS A SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH CHANGE THAT, UH, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT SAID, UH, I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT, UH, POSTPONEMENT AND REFERRAL TO CHART REVIEW COMMITTEE WOULD NECESSARILY BE FRUITFUL.
UM, THE SITE HAS SOME VERY, UM, LIMITING FACTORS TO A REAR ADDITION TO SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SPACE BEHIND THE HOUSE OR IN ADDITION COULD TAKE PLACE.
AND SO I'M NOT CERTAIN WHAT CHANGES THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT WOULD STILL ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS OF THE PROJECT, UM, WHILE MEETING THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO RELEASE THE PERMIT WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE,
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COMMISSIONER HIMSELF.UH, I AM GONNA PUT MY ARCHITECT'S HAT ON FOR THIS ONE, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE END RESULT, IF THIS IS COMPLETED IS DRAWN, WOULDN'T PRESERVE A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
UH, IT WOULD TAKE A BUILDING THAT HAS A VERY DISTINCTIVE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, AND IT WOULD INTERPRET IT FRESH FOR A NEW BUILDING.
AND I THINK IT'S VERY DELIGHTFUL, FRANKLY.
I MEAN, I KNOW OUR GUIDELINES ARE TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE CERTAIN THINGS AND THIS WOULD NORMALLY BE OUTSIDE OF THOSE PARAMETERS, BUT I THINK IF THEY COULD KEEP THAT MUCH OF THE EXISTING BUILDING AND STILL TRANSFORM IT INTO THE BENT STRONG A, UH, APPROPRIATE MODERNIST COMPOSITION AT A LARGER SCALE, UH, ON SUCH A TIGHT SITE, MY GOSH, HATS OFF TO THESE GUYS, AND I'D LIKE TO GET THEM OUT OF HERE AND GET THEM GET, YOU KNOW, I WISH I WISH MORE OF OUR, OUR, UH, OUR PROJECTS, UH, HAVE THAT STRONG AND OUTCOME.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO, UH, I'M GOING TO, MY MOTION WOULD BE TO, UH, FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
IS THERE A SECOND COMMISSIONER? OKAY.
I, UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE NEW DESIGN DOES PAY A DECENT MONTAGE TO THE ORIGINAL BUILDING, BUT IT WILL BE THE REMOVAL OF A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING AND A REPLACEMENT WITH A NON-CONTRIBUTING BUILDING.
I WOULD REALLY HAVE LIKED TO SEE THAT GO TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TO SEE IF WE COULDN'T SOMEHOW SAVE THE ORIGINAL ENTRANCE AND THAT ORIGINAL, UM, ROOF LINE AND BUILD THE, UH, TWO-STORY ADDITION MAYBE FURTHER OUT, BUT, UM, UH, IT WILL, IT WILL BECOME A NON-CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE AND, UM, AND THAT'S THAT, UH, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S, UM, BUT IT'S AN INTERESTING AND, AND FAIRLY HANDSOME, UH, RENDITION OF THE SAME KIND OF, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY JUST FOR, UH, COMMISSIONED MEMBERS, THIS, UH, THIS PROPERTY WAS ONE OF A SMALL HANDFUL OF WHAT SOME PEOPLE CALL CONTEMPORARY STYLE OR, UM, MODERN RANCH.
UH, THIS IS THE LAST, UM, MAJOR ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IN TRAVEL SITES BEFORE THE ENTRANCE PERIOD, WHICH IS, UM, 1970.
SO IT'S ONE OF THE LINK HOUSES THERE, AND I JUST NEED TO SEE IF IT DOES REPRESENT, UM, THE END OF THAT PERIOD.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, DEMOLITION ARE PARTIAL DEMOLITION AND NEW CONSTRUCTION.
RAISE YOUR HAND, ALL THOSE OPPOSED AGAIN, IT'S THE ONE WITH COMMISSIONER VALANCE, WAYLAND, COMMISSIONER MEYERS VOTING THEM OPPOSITION.
AND WE HAVE YET ANOTHER TRAVIS SITES PROPERTY THERE.
[D9. GF-2020-179571 – Offered for consent approval 2102 Alta Vista Avenue Council District 9]
ITEM D NINE COMMISSIONERS, UH, AN APPLICATION FOR A PARTIAL DEMOLITION AT 2102 OUT THE VISTA AVENUE.THIS IS A BUNGALOW PROBABLY DATING FROM THE 19TH WAS MOVED ON TO THE SITE IN 1948 FROM AN UNKNOWN UNKNOWN LOCATION.
AND, UH, WHEN THE APPLICANT MADE HER PRESENTATION, YES, WE DID WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE ADDITION, WHICH WE HAVE NO, NO ISSUES WITH WHATSOEVER.
IT'S VERY SENSITIVELY DESIGNED.
IT MEETS OUR, UH, GENERAL CRITERIA FOR HOW TO FIGHT AN ADDITION ON A HISTORIC HOUSE.
THE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE DID NOT DISCUSS, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR WAS THE ENCLOSURE OF THE FRONT PORCH.
AND THAT IS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
THIS HOUSE DOES NOT QUALIFY AS A LANDMARK.
IT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE PENDING TRAVIS HEIGHTS DISTRICT, UH, CLOSING IN THE FRONT PORCH WILL RENDER IT NON-CONTRIBUTING.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANTS TO RECONSIDER WHETHER THE ENCLOSURE OF THE FRONT PORCH IS NECESSARY AND TO OBTAIN THEIR ADDITIONAL SPACE FURTHER BACK ON THE HOUSE WHERE IT WOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH THE CONTRIBUTING STATUS OF THE HOUSE, BUT TO RELEASE THE APARTMENT UPON A DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
UM, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS, UH, APPLICATION HAS COME TO US.
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SEEN IT IN ANY FORM OF, ON THE COMMISSION.UM, THE, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS AND REFER IT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TO SEE IF WE COULDN'T, UM, SOMEHOW WORK WITH THE APPLICANTS TO RETAIN THAT VERY CHARACTERISTIC, UM, BUNGALOW CRAFTSMAN STYLE, FRONT PORCH.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY SMALL THING THAT WOULD S THAT THAT COULD FIT.
THIS IS CHARACTER DEFINING AND ALWAYS IN DESIGN AND MATERIALS THAT, THAT FRONT PORCH.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.
IF YOU CAN FIND IT IN YOUR HOUSE, SOMEONE COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA, ARE YOU MAKING THAT MOTION? YES.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE OR REFER IT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT COMMISSIONER COOK A FURTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK YOU STATED IT VERY WELL.
I JUST THINK THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS ACTUALLY MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE IF WE COULD SAVE THAT FRONT PORCH.
UM, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO POSTPONE AND REFER IT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
CAN YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB ON I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION.
UM, IT WAS, THE VOTE IS EIGHT TO ONE.
IT PASSES, IT WILL BE POSTPONED AND RE UH, REFERRED TO THE ARCHITECTURAL OR THE COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME.
UM, AT THIS TIME I WOULD, UM, LIKE TO KNOW YOUR PLEASURE ON, UM, EXTENDING THE MEETING BEYOND 10 O'CLOCK.
LET ME MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND THE MEETING TO NO LATER THAN 10 30.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER LITTLE, I SAW YOUR HAND FIRST, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
UM, PASSES WE'LL, UH, WE'LL EXTEND TO 10 30 AND LET'S GO ON WITH THE NEXT CASE.
WE WILL MAKE FAST VISITS OF THESE.
[D10. HDP-2020-0474 – Offered for consent approval 1402 Drake Avenue Council District 9]
NEXT CASE ISTHIS HOUSE WAS BUILT BY THE SAME MAN THAT BUILT 1400 DRANK ON MR. PAUL KIRSCHNER WAS A LOCAL CONTRACT AND FINANCIER, BUT HE DID NOT LIVE IN THE HOUSE.
THIS HOUSE HAS SIMILAR ARCHITECTURE TO THE HOUSE AT 1400.
UH, IT WAS DESIGNED FOR LOWER TO MIDDLE-CLASS OCCUPANTS.
UM, THIS HOUSE HAS LESS OF A SIGNIFICANT HISTORY THAN THE HOUSE AT 1400.
AGAIN, IT WOULD BE CONTRIBUTED IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE PENDING TRAVIS HEIGHTS, HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER THE HOUSE QUANTIFYING THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE CASE IS ON THE AGENDA.
UH, SO A POSTPONEMENT IS AVAILABLE TO THE COMMISSION.
SHOULD YOU SO DESIRE, BUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, BUT TO RELEASE DEPARTMENT WHERE THE CITY DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THE ITEM CHERYL COOK, OR A 25TH MEETING AND REFER THE APPLICANT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY OPTIONS? OKAY.
THIS IS THE SAME OWNER, UM, OF 1400 DRAKE, UM, WHICH HAS COME BEFORE US, UH, SEVERAL TIMES NOW.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO THE OWNER IS, BUT, UM, IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION POSTPONED TO JANUARY 25TH COMMISSIONER BALANCE WHALE IS SECOND.
THE MOTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING IT TO JANUARY 25TH, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
UH, ONE OPPOSE THAT WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER JACOB.
[D11. HDP-2020-0479 – Offered for consent approval 5613 Patton Ranch Road Council District 8]
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56 13 PATENT RANCH ROAD.THIS IS, UH, A CASE FOR, UH, DEMOLITION ORIGINALLY CAME UP ON DEMOLITION OF A LOG STRUCTURE THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS HISTORIC VALUE.
UH, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO REALLY DETERMINE MUCH ABOUT THE CABIN, UH, IN ADVANCE AND, AND LOOKED AT THE TEXT DOT SURVEY.
UM, BUT DIDN'T NOTED IT AS ELIGIBLE FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTER, BUT UNDER THE, UNDER THE, I DIDN'T NOTE IT FOR ITS INTEGRITY.
IT NOTED IT FOR, UH, FEELING AND LOCATION.
SO WE WERE UNABLE REALLY TO FIND OUT MUCH ELSE ABOUT, UH, THE HOUSE.
WHAT WE, WHAT I DID IS CONTACT OF FIVE BOARD OF THE TRAVIS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND ASK HIM IF HE MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN IT AND MOVING IT TO PIONEER FARMS. BOB BEN GOT IN TOUCH WITH MIKE WARD.
THEY MET WITH THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY AND THEY REACHED A DEAL TO DECONSTRUCT IT AND IT, AND ITS ASSOCIATED OUTBUILDINGS AND MOVE EVERYTHING TO PIONEER FARMS WHERE IT CAN BE USED FOR INTERPRETATION OF THE LACK OF EVIDENCE OR THE ABILITY OF OTHERS TO COME IN AT THIS POINT AND PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS.
I THINK WE'RE HELPED THIS PROJECT OR THIS PROPOSAL ALONG EVEN MORE SO THAT PIONEER FARMS WOULD HAVE A STRONG HISTORY OF THE BUILDINGS THAT THEY CAN THEN CROISSANT AND INTERPRET FOR THE PUBLIC.
AND ANYBODY WANTING TO LEARN ABOUT THE PIONEER HISTORY OF TRAVIS COUNTY RECOMMENDATION IS TO ALLOW FOR THE DECONSTRUCTION AND MOVE OF THE LOG CABIN AND THE ASSOCIATED BUILDINGS FROM IT, THEIR CURRENT LOCATION, WHERE THEY COULD LANGUISH FOR FOR YEARS, UH, TO PIONEER FARMS, WHERE THEY WILL BE REBUILT.
THEY WILL DO THE COMMUNITY, UH, DOING AN IMMENSE COMMUNITY GOOD BY MOVING THEM TO PIONEER FARMS AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO LEARN ABOUT THEM IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED, UH, LEAVING THEM ONSITE IS GOOD FOR PRESERVATION, BUT IN THIS CASE, I THINK WE HAVE A BETTER OPTION.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO ALLOW FOR THE DEMOLITION PERMIT, UH, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY BE A DECONSTRUCTION PERMIT AND THE MOVE OF THESE BUILDINGS TO PIONEER FARMS, WHERE THEY WILL SERVE A GREATER COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU, MR. SEDOWSKY, DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER SOME OF THE MATERIALS THAT I SENT YOU TODAY? I HAVE NOT.
UNFORTUNATELY, AFTER, AFTER WE TALKED THIS AFTERNOON, THINGS JUST GOT A LITTLE BIT HEAVIER PHOTOGRAPHS.
I, UM, I CONDUCTED, UH, THE ARCHITECTURAL AND HISTORIC SURVEY OF SOUTHWEST TRAVIS COUNTY.
AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE RESOURCES.
I JUST FOUND OUT THAT, UM, THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN APPLICATION TO, UM, TO REMOVE THE, TO REMOVE THE BUILDINGS.
THIS IS AN 1870 LOG HOUSE, UM, BUILT BY JAMES PATTON WHO HOMESTEAD IN THIS AREA.
UH, HE HAD MOVED TO, HE WAS A TEXAS RANGER HAD MOVED FURTHER WEST, HAD MULTIPLE ENCOUNTERS WITH COMANCHE'S AND THEN CAME BACK TO, UH, TRAVIS COUNTY TO THE OAK HILL AREA.
ANYONE WHO HAS, UM, GONE DOWN TO THE Y YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, THE ROCK STORE THERE WAS BUILT BY, UM, PATTON JR.
AND THE HOUSE IS A PATENT HOUSE THERE ON THE RIGHT NEXT TO THE RIGHT STORE, WHICH IS ALSO A WASN'T PIZZA PARLOR AND ALSO THE, UM, NATURAL GARDENERS, UH, GARDENS WISE AND, AND PATENT, AND ALSO GIVE THE LAND AND DONATED THE ROCK FOR THE OAK HILLS SCHOOL.
SO THIS HAS BEEN IN THE PATENT FAMILY SINCE 1870, OR IT WAS IN THE PATENT FAMILY BUILT IN 1870.
AND, UM, THERE'S A LOG, UM, BARN ON THE SITE AS WELL, THAT STILL HAS ITS ORIGINAL CHANGING.
AND I JUST WANTED TO PASS THAT
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ON I'M I'M NOT GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF, THIS IS A WHOLE SITE.AND, UM, THIS IS A WHOLE RANCH SITE THAT IS IN POOR CONDITION, BUT, BUT FAIRLY INTACT AS FAR AS THE, THE LOG HOUSE, THE BARN, SEVERAL OTHER OUTBUILDINGS ON THE SITE.
AND I KNOW THAT, UM, THIS IS RIGHT FOR DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, UH, I JUST LIKE TO SEE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT AND IT WOULD BE MY, MY DESIRE TO POSTPONE IT.
UM, SO THAT STAFF CAN BECOME MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE DID ON IT AND PRESENT THAT AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING.
DOES THAT CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS FOR THE, UM, FOR THE TRAVIS COUNTY HISTORICAL COMMISSION? I DON'T KNOW.
JEFF HOWARD, ARE YOU STILL ON THE PHONE? UM, YEAH, I, I HAVE TO CHECK.
UM, UM, MR. SADOWSKY AND MADAM CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAUSES ANY PROBLEMS, THE TRAVIS COUNTY COMMISSIONER FOR, UM, PIONEER FARMS. UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I, I'M NOT SURE NECESSARILY WHAT POSTPONEMENT WORD WOULD CHANGE THE RECOMMENDATION OR CHANGE THE BEST PRESERVATION OUTCOME.
UM, BUT, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE RATIONALE FOR THE PER REQUEST.
I DON'T, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXTENT THAT WOULD AFFECT BUYING YOUR FARM'S PLANS.
I JUST WANTED, YOU KNOW, THIS CAME TO US WITH NOT A LOT OF, UM, UH, INTRODUCTION AND THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTATION.
AND, UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME PRETTY GOOD DOCUMENTATION ON THIS, UH, ON THE SITE.
UM, THIS IS A RARE, A RARE SITE THAT STILL HAS THE BEST A SHINGLE IT'S THIS BUILDING, THERE IS STILL THE LOG STRUCTURE IS STILL INTACT, UM, THAT I PROVIDED THOSE PHOTOGRAPHS TO STAFF.
I, I JUST LIKE TO HAVE, FOR THEM TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTATION.
I FEEL LIKE IF THE STRUCTURE HAS BEEN THERE FOR 150 YEARS, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH POSTPONING IT ONE MORE MONTH.
I'LL SECOND THAT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
LET ME JUST SAY THAT ANOTHER REASON FOR MY SECOND.
AND I HAVE A CONCERN WHEN WE HAVE A PROPERTY THAT IS AS POWERFULLY, POTENTIALLY IMPORTANT AS THIS IS, YOU KNOW, HERE, YOU, AS YOU SAID, IT'S, IT'S, UH, MAYBE ALL THE LINEAGE ISN'T COMPLETELY LAID OUT, BUT IT IS INTACT, UH, AS A FARM STAFF, IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH A MAJOR FAMILY.
AND WHAT I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT IS THAT, AND I DO ENCOURAGE, AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PIONEER FARM.
SO I, I WANT TO PUT IT IN THAT CONTEXT, BUT WE ALSO ARE AWARE THAT WE'RE SETTING PRECEDENT AND I DO WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THIS IS A DESIRABLE OUTCOME, BUT IS NOT NECESSARILY APPLICABLE TO EVEN LESSER PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT BE ASKING FOR SOME SIMILAR CONSIDERATION.
UH, THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE THAT WE CAN JUST WHOLESALE FIND PROPERTIES THAT NEED TO HAVE LOVE AND ATTENTION, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE WHISKED AWAY.
AND THAT SOMEHOW HIS FATHER, ISN'T AN ACCEPTABLE OUTCOME.
UH, AS WE WELL KNOW, LOSING THE INTEGRITY OF THE EXISTING LOCATION, UH, IS A MAJOR COMPROMISE AND IS A BIG LOSS.
AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO MEAN THE SAME AT PIONEER FARMS AS IT WOULD, IF IT COULD BE RESTORED INTACT.
BUT I THINK THERE'S AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE.
I THINK IT'LL BE, IT WILL BE UP TO THE OWNER AND TO THE STAFF TO HELP US ARTICULATE THAT, UH, THAT RATIONALE.
I APPRECIATE THAT THE OWNERS, UM, WILLINGNESS TO, YOU KNOW, TO ASSIST HOWEVER THEY CAN IN DECONSTRUCTING THE LOG STRUCTURES AND MOVING THEM TO PIONEER FARM.
BUT I, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT JAMES PATTON WAS CONSIDERED THE, ALTHOUGH IT WAS UNOFFICIAL, HE WAS CONSIDERED THE MAYOR OF OAK HILL AND HE WAS THE SCHOOL TRUSTEE.
HE DONATED THE LAND, HE BUILT THE ORIGINAL SCHOOL.
UM, THIS IS HIS FAMILY'S FARM STAND OUT THERE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT IT WOULD BEHOOVE US
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TO REVIEW THAT INFORMATION, UM, THAT, THAT WE ACTUALLY MADE.AND, UM, THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION HAS ALREADY MADE A DETERMINATION OF ELIGIBILITY THAT IS ELIGIBLE MR. COMMISSIONER COOK.
I'M LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY ON, ON A MAP AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS ADJACENT TO A ROAD AND COULD PRETTY EASILY BE THE COLD OFF AS A HISTORIC PARCEL WITHOUT NEGATIVELY IMPACTING.
THESE ARE THE REST OF THE PROPERTIES FLOATING IN THE CENTER AND WE'RE REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, A QUARTER MILE DRIVING AND GETTING TO IT THAT WOULD MAKE IT AN ISLAND IS ONE THING IS VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
YOU CAN DRIVE BY AND SEE IT RIGHT NOW.
AND IT'S, IT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE.
SO I'D NECESSARILY AM INTERESTED TO LEARN MORE.
IT'S ALSO, THE BOAT IS ACTUALLY CALLED ROAD.
SO THE ROAD IS NAMED FOR BATON.
WE'RE TAKING AWAY THE INITIAL, UH, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY ASSOCIATED WITH IT THAT IS OUT HERE.
SO COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON, I, I SAW YOUR HAND UP.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY MY PREVIOUS COMMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN THERE 150 YEARS.
LET'S WHAT'S ANOTHER MONTH AS IN LIKE, LET'S TAKE THAT TIME TO JUST DRAG IT OUT AN EXTRA MONTH TO DRAG IT OUT.
I MEAN, LIKE, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GREAT DECISION WE'RE MAKING, LET'S NOT DO IT IN PACE.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SEE, I WOULD LIKE TO EAT, TO SEE THE DOCUMENTATION AND I'VE PROVIDED THAT TO STAFF, UH, TODAY.
THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE IT FOR A MONTH TO RECEIVE THAT INFORMATION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ANY OPPOSITION? NO, IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
SO WE'LL POSTPONE IT WITH, UH, I THINK THE, THE GENERAL, UM, INCLINATION OF THE COMMISSION IS THAT IT MAY YET, UM, THE MOVE TO PIONEER FARMS, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT TIME.
WE HAVE ONE MORE, UM, ITEM WE HAVE, ONE
[D12. HDP-2020-0494 – Discussion 4310 Rosedale Avenue Council District 10]
IS AN APPLICATION AT 43, 10 ROSEDALE AVENUE, AND THE APPLICATION IS FOR THE DEMOLITION OF A BIG GARAGE AND A SHED, WHICH WE NORMALLY WOULDN'T REFER TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, EXCEPT THAT THESE OUTBUILDINGS ARE AT THE HOME OF KENNETH AND MERGED WITH THREADGILL, WHO WERE AUSTIN ICONS, PARTICULARLY HIM, UH, HIS GAS STATION WAS LEGENDARY.THE FIRST PLACE JANIS JOPLIN SANG PROFESSIONALLY.
UH, HE USED TO LEAVE THE BLUEGRASS HOOTENANNY'S HE WAS A BLUES, A YODELER JUST AN AMAZING MAN AND KEPT THIS UP.
UH, INITIALLY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSION WAS OKAY WITH THIS.
SO AS TO NOT FORECLOSE, ANY FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES FOR LANDMARKING, THERE HAVE BEEN ADDITIONS TO THIS HOUSE THERE ON THE BACK.
UH, THERE'S ALSO A DORMER THAT'S BEEN CONSTRUCTED ON THE FRONT, BUT IN STAFF'S OPINION, THE DORMER DOES NOT DETRACT SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE CHARACTER OF THIS 1939 ROCK HOUSE THAT THE THREAT GIRLS LIVED IN 1945 UNTIL THREE, THE 1980S.
SO, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO ALLOW FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE GARAGE AND THE SHED ALLOW FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT THE ARCHITECT HAS PROVIDED AND ALSO CONSIDER INITIATING THE HISTORIC ZONING CASE ON THIS HOUSE.
WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY RIGHT HERE TO, UH, INITIATE AND HOPEFULLY RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING FOR A VERY IMPORTANT HOUSE IN ROSEDALE AND AREA WHERE WE HAVE VERY FEW LANDMARKS AND ALSO THE HOME OF AN AUSTIN MUSICAL ICON.
UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE ITEM I MOVE TO APPROVE THE DEMOLITION OF THE OUTGOINGS AND INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING ON THE MAIN HOUSE COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA, ARE YOU SECONDING? YES.
THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE DEMOLITION OF THE GARAGE AND SHED AND INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING ON THE KENNETH AND MATILDA.
I'M SORRY, THE MILDRED AND, UH, THREAD Y'ALL HOUSE, UM, IN THE CITY OF, UH, IN THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
I THINK JUST PLACES PROBABLY, UM, PRETTY INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, TELL IT HAD SOMETHING TO SAY, I'M SORRY.
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STAFF IF THE, UH, THE OLD THREAD DEALS UP ON, UH, THE GAS STATION.HAS THAT BEEN, IS THAT A HISTORIC MARKED HISTORIC? IT IS NOT, UH, NOT YET.
UH, I HAD HEARD FROM THE OWNERS ABOUT THIS TIME LAST YEAR, THEY WERE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT, UH, BUT NOTHING EVER CAME OF IT.
AND, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, IF NEW OWNERS WOULD, UH, COME THROUGH WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
OR THE COMMISSION COULD ACTUALLY INITIATE A CASE AS WELL, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ACTION AND THERE'S BEEN NO APPLICATION FOR DEMOLITION OR MODIFICATION OF THAT STRUCTURE.
BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS THE HOUSE THAT THE THREADGILLS LIVED IN.
AND I THINK, AS I SAID, WE'VE GOT A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS WE FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT WAS JUST, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, I DIDN'T WANT, I DIDN'T WANT THE, THIS WAS, IF THIS IS TAGGED HISTORIC, I DIDN'T WANT IT TO PRECLUDE, TAGGED HISTORIC OR MARKED HISTORIC.
SO, AND THAT THREADGILL'S, I THINK WE, WE GOOD.
UM, WE GET AT LEAST NOMINATED FOR HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS WITH JANIS JOPLIN, AND I WILL WEAR AUTHENTIC JEFF JOPLIN AND RENDER WEEDING TO BREAK APART VICIOUSLY OF A PIECE OF MY HEART.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
RAISE YOUR HAND FOR THE LAST TIME THIS YEAR.
WE VOTED ALLOWED THE DEMOLITION OF THE GRUDGE AND INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING, WHICH IS, UH, VERY WELL-APPRECIATED.
WE, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER IS THAT WE'LL COME BACK NEXT MONTH FOR A RECOMMENDATION AND WE'LL DO A FULL, UH, ZONING CHANGE REVIEW SHEET FOR YOU THAT HAS MUCH MORE INFORMATION THAN, THAN WE HAD NOW.
UM, BEFORE I LET YOU GO, I KNOW THIS IS OUT OF ORDER HERE, BUT, UH, I WANTED TO TAKE US DOWN TO THE, UH, STAFF REPORTS BECAUSE, UH, WHILE I WAS OUT GETTING PICTURES FOR THIS MEETING, I WENT BY 14, 10 NORTHWOOD ROAD, WHICH IS THE HOUSE.
AS YOU RECALL ABOUT THIS TIME LAST YEAR HAD REPLACED WINDOWS WITHOUT PERMISSION, UH, HAD AGREED TO USE THE ORIGINAL SCREENS, WOODEN SCREENS TO RECREATE THE LOOK.
AND I PROVIDED YOU PICTURES WITH THEM OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
AND, UH, IT REALLY IS OUTSTANDING.
AND, UH, I'M VERY GLAD THAT THAT, UH, THAT THEY WERE.
SO I JUST WANT IT TO, THAT'S KIND OF OUR, MY CHRISTMAS PRESENT TO YOU.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT PEOPLE ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE GOOD AT GOOD FOR THEIR WORD THAT THEY'RE TAKE THINGS THROUGH ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO, I WANT TO DO, TO SEE THAT, AND HOPEFULLY THAT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED IN THE PAST THAT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY RECTIFIED.
UH, I THINK THAT THAT IS THE BEST OF ALL POSSIBLE THAT THE WINDOWS WERE ALREADY REMOVED.
UM, ONE ITEM HERE, UH, COMMISSIONER FELONS, WAIVE COMMISSIONER, UH, TONIGHT, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING OF THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE, UH, COMING UP BEFORE JANUARY, UM, COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, MAYBE WE CAN GET STAFF TO DO A DOODLE POLL OR SOMETHING OF WHEN WE COULD MEET, UH,
[4A. Nomination process for Austin Economic Development Corporation]
THIS IS THE NOMINATION PROCESS FOR THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.UM, THE APPLICATION HAS COME OUT AND, UH, WE HAVE ONE, UM, COMMISSIONED MEMBER, UH, COMMISSIONER STAFF WHO HAS EXPRESSED A STRONG DESIRE TO SERVE ON THIS.
UH, SO WE WILL FORWARD THE APPLICATION TO HIM AND, UM, ANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WE THINK, UM, INTERESTED AND HAVE THE, BE ABLE TO COMMIT THE TIME TO, UH, TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD.
THIS IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A SAY IN SOME LARGE PROJECTS DEMO AND COME TO US WHEN THEY'RE ALREADY DONE, WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE COMING WITH THE FINAL, UH, CONSTRUCTION
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PLANS AND WE SEE THEM AND DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THINGS.THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MAYBE, UM, HAVE SOME, UH, CSO IN THE DESIGN OF CERTAIN, UM, PROPERTIES AND PROJECTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT COURT.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PRESERVATION PLAN, PLEASE, UM, FOR APPLICANTS, PLEASE FORWARD THEM TO STAFF.
AND I WILL FORWARD THE APPLICATION TO COMMISSIONER HEIM SET, BUT, UM, BETH, YOU AND I, AND, AND ALEX NEED TO, UH, COME UP WITH, UM, UM, A TIME THAT WE CAN MEET.
MAYBE IT WOULD ONLY BE A CONFERENCE CALL, OR MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A SMALL VIRTUAL MEETING ON THAT.
UM, DOES STAFF HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD ON THAT POINT? NOTHING TO ADD OTHER THAN, UH, THE COMMISSION DOES NEED TO TAKE ACTION AT THE JANUARY MEETING TO MOVE THAT FORWARD ON THE RIGHT TIMELINE.
UM, YEAH, SO WE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO DO THAT, UM, FOR
[B. Discussion and Possible Action on Committee Reports]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON COMMITTEE REPORTS.UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MET THIS PAST TWO WEEKS AGO AND, UM, THOSE PROJECTS CAME TO US TONIGHT, SOME MADE REVISIONS AND SOME DID NOT.
AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OTHER COMMITTEES HAD MET.
UM, WE NEED TO GET SOME NEW COMMISSIONERS ON COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT, AND COMMISSIONER ISF, UM, THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.
YOU GOT THE DOWN PAT COMMISSION, HOPEFULLY I'LL HAVE ANOTHER RESPONSIBILITY NICELY WITH THE, UH, AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COURT, IF THAT COMES TO PASS.
BUT, UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ISSUES BEFORE COMMISSION OR FROM THE STAFF, ONE MORE THING FROM THE STAFF AND KIND OF SAD? WELL, IT IS SAD NEWS.
UM, THIS WILL BE ANGELA'S LAST MEETING.
SHE IS LEAVING US TO GO INTO THE WORLD OF PRIVATE CONSULTING AND, UH, WE'RE VERY ABOUT THAT ANGELA FOR HER MOVE.
UH, AND WE WANT TO WISH HER THE BEST AND EXPRESS OUR VERY DEEP GRATITUDE FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT SHE DID WHILE SHE WORKED HERE.
UH, AND ALL THE HELP THAT SHE PROVIDED AND HER SMILE EVERY DAY, WE WILL MISS MOST OF ALL.
I REALLY APPRECIATED HERE, UH, HANDLING OF THE, UH, MANY, MANY SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE HAD AT THESE MEETINGS.
SO THANKS FOR BEARING WITH ME.
YOU, YOU SAVED ME SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO.
AND I, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN YOU IN PERSON.
I'VE ONLY, IT'S BEEN WEIRD TO JUST SEE YOU ALL ON SCREEN.
SO, BUT MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD THING.
SO YOU WON'T RECOGNIZE ME IF HE EVER SEE ME AGAIN, SHE CAME AND WENT DURING THE CORONA VIRUS.
I'M WILLING TO TELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY TO EVERYONE JUST AS BEEN A HARD YEAR FOR EVERYBODY, NOT AS MUCH FOR ME AS SOME OF YOU, BECAUSE I'VE WORKED AT HOME FOR 20 YEARS, BUT I KNOW, UM, HOW ISOLATING THAT CAN BE.
AND WE HAVE FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES WHO HAVE SUFFERED WITH THE CORONAVIRUS.
AND ALL I CAN SAY IS I HOPE THAT YOU HAVE AS GOOD A CHRISTMAS HANUKKAH, UM, WHATEVER YOUR YOU CAN CELEBRATE DO SO AND DO SO SAFELY.
AND HOPEFULLY, UH, THE 2021 WILL BE MY SECOND US.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN? SHE HAS TO JERK ONE FAIR.
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AND THEN CLOUDS COME COLD.YEAH, IT'S A HARD PLACE TO FALL FROM, IF YOU NOT CAREFUL LIKE A