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BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HER ALL AND HOPEFULLY SHE CAN, UH, COME THROUGH.

ALL RIGHT.

THE MEETING,

[CALL TO ORDER ]

WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT TO ORDER.

THIS IS AN ONLINE MEETING OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION.

TODAY IS JANUARY 4TH AND WE ARE AT HOME WHEREVER WE ARE AT.

OKAY.

EVERYBODY IS GOOD.

UH, WE WANT

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL ]

TO START OUT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

UM, DO WE HAVE FOLKS READY FOR THAT? YES, WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS CURRENTLY.

OKAY, AWESOME.

UM, I DON'T, DID YOU SEND ME A LIST? YOU PROBABLY DID.

I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT THE LIST.

YEAH, THERE'S A LISTING.

UM, YOUR OUTLOOK CITY OUTLET, RIGHT? IS IT PART OF THE EMAIL THAT WAS SENT ON THE 31ST? UM, KIM SENT AN UPDATED LIST THIS AFTERNOON.

HERE WE GO.

HERE WE GO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, JENNIFER, I'M SORRY.

YOU'RE SICK.

YOU'RE SICK.

HI, THIS IS JENNIFER.

OKAY.

SPEAKING TO HER.

OKAY, WELL, UM, WE, UH, THE NEIGHBORS OF GWALIA TANGO, UM, SAW THAT, THAT THE OWNER OF THE ESTABLISHMENT WAS A SPEAKER ON THIS TODAY, AND SHE'S BEEN GOING DOOR TO DOOR, KIND OF TRYING TO DRUM UP SUPPORT TO HAVE HER MUSIC, OPERATIONS CONTINUE OUTDOORS.

UM, AND WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO, UH, THE NEIGHBORS REALLY THAT LIVE ANYWHERE FROM 11 FEET TO WHERE SHE WAS DOING THAT OUTDOOR OPERATION TO, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET.

UM, SO VERY, VERY CLOSE AND WANTED TO TYPE IN BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, UM, OR DECIDED ACCORDING TO THE AGENDA, BUT IT DOES HAVE A REAL EFFECT ON THE NEIGHBORS WHEN MUSIC OPERATIONS ARE MOVED OUTDOORS.

UM, FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS WHEN SHE OPERATED HER VENUE OUTDOORS, IT HAD A VERY REAL AND VERY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON HER NEIGHBORS.

UH, THE NOISE CAME INTO OUR HOMES THAT VERY HIGH DECIBEL LEVELS, AND THERE WAS EVERYTHING FROM DRUM CIRCLES, RUNNING UPWARDS OF A HUNDRED DECIBELS TO, YOU KNOW, DJS AND BANDS OPERATING.

UM, AND SO WE REALLY JUST NEVER HAD PEACE AND QUIET IN OUR HOMES IN ORDER TO, WITH, AND WORK AND REST AND, AND DO THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO IN YOUR HOME, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE AT STAY AT HOME ORDERS, UH, BECAUSE OF A PANDEMIC, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT GOT TO BE EXTREMELY INCONSIDERATE.

AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE ABOUT ALLOWING OPERATIONS TO, TO MOVE OR TO VARY, UM, WE KNOW THAT BUSINESSES ARE STRUGGLING.

WE KNOW THAT PERFORMERS ARE STRUGGLING, BUT REALLY THE ANSWER TO THAT CAN'T BE THAT WE'RE GOING TO DRIVE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES FOR LACK OF BEING ABLE TO, UM, HAVE A LIVABLE ENVIRONMENT INSIDE OF THEIR HOMES.

AND SO WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO CALL IN AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE COMMITTEE AWARE.

WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT'S BEING DECIDED.

UM, BUT WE WANTED THE COMMITTEE TO BE AWARE THAT, UM, IT HAS HAD A VERY STRONG AND VERY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE HOMES THAT ARE RIGHT IMMEDIATELY AROUND THIS PARTICULAR VENUE.

AND THAT THE VENUE IS IN AN ENTIRELY RESIDENTIAL AREA.

UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND LIVE MUSIC GOING ON IN THIS AREA, THERE JUST IS NO WAY TO CURTAIL IT TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE NOT HAVING IT INTRUDE VERY SIGNIFICANTLY INTO OUR HOMES AND INTO OUR LIVES.

UM, WE BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, MUSIC IS A LOVELY THING AND DANCING IS A LOVELY THING.

AND PEOPLE HAVING A GOOD TIME IS A LOVELY THING, BUT HAVING THAT INTRUDE INTO ALL ASPECTS OF OUR LIVES IS NOT NECESSARILY A LOVELY THING.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, WE WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THAT THE NEIGHBORS SAID THAT VENUE, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE PEOPLE THAT ARE ELDERLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE EXTREMELY SERIOUS HEALTH CONDITIONS AND HAVING THESE LARGE GATHERINGS RIGHT NEXT TO HER WAS IMPACTFUL AS WELL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, JESSICA.

UM, JUST SAY A SEC, I HOPE THAT'S RIGHT.

OR CLOSE.

OKAY.

THAT'S OKAY.

I KNOW GATES THE KEYS, SO THINK OF, YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, THE NEXT ON THE LIST IS AIR DRYDEN WAS ERIC THERE AND JAYDEN.

OKAY.

UH, ERIC IS HERE.

UH, ERIC, IF YOU COULD JUST UNMUTE YOUR PHONE,

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SORRY ABOUT THAT.

UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEP.

OKAY.

UM, WELL, I, I DON'T, UH, HAVE A WHOLE LOT THAT HAD, UM, UH, TO WHAT JENNIFER SAID, UM, EXCEPT THAT, UM, I, I, UM, AS SHE SAID, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, UM, WHAT'S BEING TALKED ABOUT HERE AND ALL OF THAT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, TH THE PROBLEM, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE MUSIC AND FOR ANY OPERATIONS, FOR A SCHEME TO TANGO TO BE, TO CONDUCT OUTSIDE MUSIC, IS IT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THE DECIBEL LEVEL IS, IS KEPT TO, UM, TO SOMEWHAT A REASONABLE LEVELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND, AND ON MANY, IT HASN'T BEEN, AND IT'S BEEN WELL OVER 75, BUT EVEN IF IT'S, EVEN IF IT'S BELOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR BEDROOM SITS 11 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OF A TANGOS.

SO EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE COMES STRAIGHT INTO OUR BEDROOM.

SO, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY IT'S A SEVEN O'CLOCK ON A, ON A WEEKEND NIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND WE WANT TO WATCH A MOVIE WHAT WE CAN'T DO IT.

UM, AND, AND THAT, THAT'S THE ISSUE FOR ME IS, AND, AND, AND I THINK FOR BOTH OF US IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT REALLY IN CONTROL OF OUR OWN, UH, PEACE AND PRIVACY OVER HERE.

IF OUTDOOR CONCERTS ARE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO BE GOING ON NEXT DOOR.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT'S NOT THAT WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH, UM, WITH OUR NEIGHBOR HAVING CERTAIN EVENTS OVER THERE, BUT WHEN THEY BECOME THESE OUTDOOR CONCERTS, THAT BECOMES A PROBLEM.

AND IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR US TO, TO AGAIN, LIVE OUR LIVES IN SOME PEACE AND QUIET, YOU KNOW, SIT BACK, WATCH A MOVIE OR WHATEVER ON A WEEKEND NIGHT OR, OR EVEN A WEEKDAY NIGHT OR SOMETHING, IF THESE THINGS ARE GOING ON.

AND BECAUSE THIS ENTIRE AREA IS RESIDENTIAL.

UM, AND BECAUSE WE ARE SO CLOSE TO WHERE THEY ARE, I MEAN, WE LITERALLY, WE CAN LOOK OUTSIDE OUR SIDE DOOR AND IT'S JUST, AGAIN, IT'S A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, 10 TO 20 FEET FROM WHERE THIS IS GOING ON.

SO, UH, I DON'T HAVE MUCH ELSE TO ADD OTHER THAN, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT EXACTLY FAIR FOR THAT TO BE HAPPENING AND FOR IT TO DISRUPT OUR LIVES AND THOSE OF THE NEIGHBORS AROUND US, UM, WHO ARE RIGHT NEXT TO, UH, SKEENA TANGO.

I MEAN, WE W WHILE WE UNDERSTAND, UM, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO OVER THERE, JUST BEING A DIFFICULT TIME AND ALL OF THAT, WE, UH, IT'S, IT'S STILL, IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US IF THAT IS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO GO ON.

SO, UH, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S ALL I REALLY WANTED TO SAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, ERIC.

UH, RAUL CRUZ.

HELLO? HELLO, THIS IS ROAD CREWS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

UH, FEEL FREE TO EXPRESS YOURSELF.

OKAY.

UH, WELL, LIKE I SAID, WE ALL HAVING A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE SCHEME AT TANGO, AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 35 YEARS.

ORIGINALLY.

SHE WAS SCHEDULED.

SHE ASKED FOR A PERMIT TO DO IS JUST LESSONS INSIDE THE BUILDING, LIKE TANGO AND SOME OTHER KIND OF MUSIC, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY STARTED PLAYING NOTHING BUT MUSIC OUTSIDE.

AND WE APPROACHED HER AND SAID, HEY, UH, YOU GET TOO LOUD IN, UH, MY WIFE GOES TO WORK AT FIVE IN THE MORNING AND THEY'D BE PLAYING SOMETIMES TWO IN THE MORNING AND THEY STILL STAY THERE.

TWO, THREE OR FOUR IS THE RUNNING, JUST TALKING.

AND, UH, THE OTHER ISSUE WE HAD IS THEY, THE DRINKING A LOT, THEY, THEY, THEY HAD SOME KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW, WHO'S SUPPLYING THE BEVERAGE, THE LIQUOR OR WHATEVER, AND, UH, OR THEY BRING THEIR OWN, BUT A LOT OF THE TRASH IS LEFT ON NO PROPERTIES OR A TRASH CANS ON THE STREET.

THEY BREAK GLASSES AND ALL THAT, AND THEN THEY WERE CLEANED THEM UP.

AND WE APPROACHED MONICA ON THE NICE WAY, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU NEED TO TALK TO THESE PEOPLE.

THEY, UH, THEY MAKE A MESS.

I MEAN, ON TOP OF THAT, YOU MAKE AN, ALL THIS NOISE.

WE NEED TO SEE, WE CAN CONTROL THAT BECAUSE ORIGINALLY

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YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ONLY BE DOING CLASSES INSIDE THE BUILDING, WHICH IS NOT REAL BIG.

AND THE OTHER PROBLEM WE HAD IS PARKING SPACE.

THEIR BUILDING IS NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR 20 OR 30 CARS.

THERE CAN ONLY HOLD MAYBE EIGHT CARS.

AND, UH, WHEN SHE BUILD THE STAGE, NOW IT'S ON HER OR THE DRIVEWAY.

THAT'S WHAT SHE'S BUILT ON THE LITTLE STAGE FOR THE LOUD MUSIC.

AND THEY PLAY LIKE THE DAY BEFORE THE PRACTICE, WHATEVER THEY DO.

AND THEN THEY COME BACK THE NEXT DAY AT NIGHT, REAL LATE AT NIGHT.

AND, UH, THERE'VE BEEN MULTIPLE INSTANCES WHERE THEY, UH, THEIR VEHICLES, UH, GETTING THAT MY VEHICLES GOT DAMAGED TWICE.

THEY HIT MY CAR AND THEY JUST, THEY DON'T SAY NOTHING.

THEY DON'T ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR WHO DAMAGED IT AND APPROACHED, MONICA SAYS, WELL, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? I MEAN, THAT'S THE WORD, LOOK, JUST TALK TO CUSTOMERS WHO IS DAMAGING THE VEHICLES AND SEE THE CAN TAKE CARE OF IT INSTEAD OF JUST RUNNING AWAY.

BUT SINCE A LOT OF THEM ALREADY DRUNK, THEY'RE ON THEIR OWN DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE DRUNK.

AND, UH, ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

AND ALSO ALL MY OLDER NEIGHBORS, UH, MAINLY LIKE RIGHT ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER, LIKE THE PROJECTS FROM SANTA RITA, THEY ALL SIGN THE PETITION AND, UH, CAUSE THEY, THEY THEY'RE TOO LOUD.

AND SO WE SEND THE, UH, ALL THE PETITIONS TO THAT TO MS. DAVID, I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY WERE, UH, BLAKE, I BELIEVE.

AND, UH, WELL YOU WAS JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE RESPONSE TO THAT ARMENIAN WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE PHONE.

AND, UH, THE, MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT WE DON'T WANT NO MORE MUSIC TOO LOUD IN HER BUILDING.

THAT'S ORIGINALLY, IF YOU ONLY GOT A PERMIT FOR THAT, SHE AIN'T GOT NO PERMITS TO BE DOING ANY MUSIC OUTSIDE OR NOBODY HAS BEEN, UH, UH, USUALLY I'LL GET AN EMAIL FROM THE CD THAT SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO APPLY FOR THE APARTMENT.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE YEAR.

SO, UM, WHAT IS THE DATE? UH, WE DON'T NEED THAT KIND OF BUSINESS HERE RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AND THESE ARE THE ONLY PERSON THAT WE LET THEM GET IN BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST GOING TO BE DOING THEM SOME LITTLE DAMS IN INSIDE THE BUILDING.

NOW I GOT OUT OF HIM.

SO THANK YOU, MR. CRUZ, YET TOM ACTUALLY WAS UP THAT LITTLE FAINT SOUND THAT YOU HEARD WAS, WAS YOUR TIME.

EVERYONE GETS THREE MINUTES.

SO, UM, WE APPRECIATE YOU, UH, AND YOUR INPUT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND THANKS FOR THE Y'ALL'S TIME.

OH, THANK YOU.

UM, THEN THAT'S THE NEXT ON THE LIST IS, UH, DORIS CRUZ.

YEAH.

SHE'S FROM THE OTHER LIST.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SHE'S ALSO ON THE LIST AS WELL.

HI.

HOW ARE YOU DOING? THIS IS DORIS CRUZ.

HELLO, DORIS.

HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING FINE.

OKAY, GOOD.

OKAY.

WELL, PRETTY MUCH JENNIFER, ERIC AND RO HAS SAID A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF OUR PATRIOTS.

THEY URINE IN THE STREETS.

THEY GET IN BETWEEN THE CARS AND SHE DOESN'T WANT TO MAKE HERSELF RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF THIS.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SHE, HER PLACE, SHE RENTED OUT TO SOMEONE ELSE.

SO I GUESS SHE'S NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

YOU KNOW, I, IN THE PAST, WHEN MY GIRLS WERE GRADUATING FROM HIGH SCHOOL, MAYBE 10, 20 YEARS AGO, THEY HAD 15 YEARS AGO.

I RENTED IT FROM HER.

I THINK I PROBABLY GAVE HER A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR USING IT WAS DONATION.

AND BACK THEN IT WAS THE IDEA THAT SHE WAS JUST GOING TO DO TANGLED LESSONS.

IT NEVER GOT OUT OF HAND AT THE BEGINNING, SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING YOGA CLASSES.

IT DIDN'T GET OUT OF HAND.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, SHE COULDN'T DO IT ANYMORE.

SO SHE WAS LETTING IT, SOMEONE ELSE RENTED OUT AND WE HAD TO DEAL WITH IT.

I HAD TO GO OUT OVER THERE SEVERAL TIMES TO SAY MY DRIVEWAY HAS BEEN BLOCKED AND IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET SOMEBODY TO GET OUT HERE.

I GET UP EARLY IN THE MORNING TO GO TO WORK IN HER HUSBAND OR EX-HUSBAND IS STILL OUT THERE MAKING NOISE WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL THERE VISITING AT FOUR 45 IN THE MORNING.

AND I'VE TOLD HER THIS AND IT'S LIKE, SHE DOESN'T CARE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO GET A PERMIT TO CONTINUE PLAYING MUSIC OR HAVE MUSIC OUT THERE.

BUT HONESTLY,

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I DON'T THINK THAT SHE HAS, SHE HAS A RIGHT TO HAVE IT.

AND THEN I DON'T EVEN SEE THEM WITH MASK ON.

THEY EVEN CAME HERE TO OUR HOUSE WITHOUT A MASK ON.

I HAVE VIDEO CAMERAS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

SHE DOESN'T WEAR A MASK.

SO TO ME, YOU KNOW, SHE'S NOT COMPLYING WITH A LOT OF THE RULES AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

I HOPE, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION THAT SHE DOESN'T GET TO GET A PERMIT FOR THAT KIND OF OUT HERE.

CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO STAY UP UNTIL FOUR OR FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING LISTENING TO HER MUSIC.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, THOSE CREWS, I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.

UM, BOBBY YOUNGER IS THE NEXT ON THE LIST.

THAT'S EVERYBODY.

WELL THAT'S EVERY PENNY.

YEAH, THERE WERE OTHERS.

NOBODY ELSE, BOBBY.

DIDN'T GET HIM.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, DONNA.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WILL BE IT FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

UM, OKAY.

NOW

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]

WE HAVE, UH, THE FUN, THE FUNNEST PART OF THIS MEETING IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

UH, HAVE YOU GUYS HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK OVER THE MINUTES FROM LAST MINUTE MOTION TO APPROVE? OKAY.

GRAHAM MOTION.

THERE'S A SECOND.

SOMEWHERE OUT THERE.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

IS THAT PATRICE? YOU MADE IT AS SHE IS.

ALL RIGHT.

UH I'LL UH, ALL POSTS.

OKAY.

JUST SAY UNANIMOUS.

I DIDN'T RAISE MY HAND, BUT HEY.

YES.

I'M ALL FOR THAT.

OKAY.

AWESOME.

OKAY.

LET'S UH, CHAIRS BEFORE THIS IS IN PART, UH, IT'S MY FIRST MEETING AS A CHAIR.

I WANT TO JUST SAY HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY.

UM, WELCOME EVERYBODY BACK.

I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT YEAR THIS YEAR.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT, UH, SPOKE OUT FOR THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

UM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, YOUR INSIGHTS.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT A SKIN SOUND GOING A LITTLE BIT, BUT UH, WE WANT TO WELCOME EVERYBODY THAT IS LISTENING, UM, ONLINE, HOW TO PAY ATTENTION ONLINE.

THANK YOU ALL FOR TUNING IN.

UM, I WANTED TO SAY THAT I HAVE PLANNED TO TALK WITH EVERYONE BEFORE THIS MEETING.

UM, BUT I DECIDED LAST WEEK TO TAKE MY FIRST WEEK OFF IN A LONG TIME.

AND I WAS STILL ON MY EMAIL, WHICH IS REALLY SAD, BUT I KEPT IT TO A MINIMUM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

SO I STILL, UM, RUN A REACH OUT TO EACH OF YOU MAINLY, UH, BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, START TO REALLY HONE IN ON IS WHAT WORK WE'RE DOING IN EACH DISTRICT.

UM, EACH OF US COMES EACH WAS, WAS NOW, UH, BROUGHT TO THIS BODY, UM, BY A COUNCIL PERSON.

AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR US TO START TO VISION, UM, HAVE A VISION FOR OUR DISTRICTS AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING MUSICALLY TO OUR DISTRICTS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, FOR NEXT, FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, AFTER, AFTER WE TALK, I WOULD LIKE FOR EACH OF YOU TO KIND OF COME TALK WITH YOUR CITY COUNCIL PERSON AND COME BRING, BRING TO THE NEXT MINUTE, SOME IDEAS FOR, UM, ONE THING THAT YOU GUYS CAN DO WITHIN YOU, DID THAT YOU ALL CAN DO WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT, UM, TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY BESIDES OF COURSE BEING A, BEING A RESOURCE TO ANYBODY IN YOUR DISTRICT.

THAT'S A GIVEN, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UM, AN IDEA TWO OR THREE FROM EACH ONE IS FINE.

SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO ACCOMPLISH SPECIFICALLY WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT THIS YEAR.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO CREATE SPACE WITHIN OUR MEETING EVERY, EVERY MONTH TO JUST TOUCH BASE AND SEE WHERE THINGS ARE AT WITH THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY THERE.

UM, AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT AS THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME THINGS HAPPENING MUSICALLY WITHIN EACH DISTRICT THAT WE CAN CONNECT THAT WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT, GET PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT.

UM, I WOULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE TO CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR

[00:20:01]

MUSICIANS, THIS, SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I SHOULD PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MUSICIANS COME AND VISIT US, HAVE A PERFORMANCE, UM, OR MAYBE EVEN TO, UM, END EACH MEETING SOMETHING TO JUST LIFT OUR SPIRITS, TO, TO CONNECT WITH, YOU KNOW, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT THERE CREATING RIGHT NOW.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO BRING THAT TO THE MEETINGS AS WELL.

UM, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW, YOU KNOW, IF WE MAY, WE CAN NOMINATE A, A, A SPECIFIC COMMISSIONER CAN PRESENT SOMEBODY EACH MONTH OR WHATEVER, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR MONTHS LIKE FEBRUARY, WHICH IS COMING UP.

SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO PERHAPS BRING SOMEBODY, UH, FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH, BUT WE HAVE SPECIFIC MONTHS SPECIFIC CULTURES, UM, YOU KNOW, TO COME, YOU KNOW, TO COME PRESENT, SEEING, UH, PERFORM WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, JUST LIKE TO MAKE THESE MEETINGS A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, BRING A LITTLE BIT MORE LIGHT, BRING A LITTLE MORE ENERGY TO THEM.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S 20, 21, THERE'S A LOT TO DISCUSS OBVIOUSLY.

UM, SO I WANT US TO DO OUR BEST TO GET PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING, UM, IN MUSIC AND, AND BRING THE PUBLIC MORE ENTITIES MEETINGS AS POSSIBLE, GIVE AS MUCH INPUT AND INSIGHT AS WE CAN.

UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY RIGHT NOW.

UM, IN 2021, I LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING WITH EACH OF Y'ALL, UM, THIS MONTH IN MORE DETAIL, I WOULD LOVE ANY IDEAS THAT YOU ALL HAVE FOR HOW WE CAN MAKE THESE MEETINGS, NOT JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A GOAL, BUT ALSO TO, UM, INTEREST PEOPLE IN GETTING INVOLVED.

YOU KNOW, I WAS ASKING MYSELF RECENTLY, DO WE HAVE A LOGO? THERE'S THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION HAVE A LOGO? DO WE HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE? UM, WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK, UM, SO LIKE OUR IDENTITY, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE, I THINK PEOPLE KNOW US AS INDIVIDUALS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO WORK ON IDENTITY AS A GROUP AND, UM, DO A BETTER JOB, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE A RESOURCE.

UM, SO WHATEVER THAT CONJURES UP IN YOUR MIND, IF SOME POPS OF NOW WRITE SOME NOTES OR, OR JUST KIND OF RUMINATE ON THAT, BECAUSE I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR THIS BODY TO BECOME MORE RELEVANT, UM, IN THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMUNITY, I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS ON US.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S WORK ON THAT.

LET'S SET THAT AS A GOAL.

UH, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE GOALS THAT I HAVE FOR THIS YEAR.

UM, SO THAT SAID, LET'S LOOK AT THE OLD BUSINESS HERE.

UM, ME PULL UP.

SO I HAVE A, THERE YOU GO.

I HAVE IT ON MY, UH, PHONE.

OKAY.

DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON COMMISSION APPOINTED TO THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

[2A. Discussion and Possible Action on music permitting during COVID following presentation by Monica Caivano, Director of Esquina Tango. ]

UM, I THINK WE'LL, I THINK TWO A IS NEW BUSINESS.

WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS BEFORE OLD BUSINESS.

I'LL USE PART OF THIS TO YOU, CORRECT DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSIC PERMITTING DURING COVID THAT, UH, FOLLOWING PRESENTATION BY MONICA.

OKAY.

CARVANA GUAVANO DIRECTOR OF THE SKEENA CONGO.

MONICA, ARE YOU THERE? YES.

I'M HERE ALONG WITH GUSTAVO SING, PLEASE.

HOW ARE YOU DOING THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TONIGHT? UM, YES.

UM, SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS EARLIER TODAY HERE AND, UH, AND, UH, WE, WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM.

WE HAVE REACHED OUT, UH, WE ARE A NONPROFIT.

UM, WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 15 YEARS AND WE WERE CLOSED FOR, YOU KNOW, SIX, SEVEN MONTHS, A YEAR, MANY, MANY OTHER INSTITUTIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND THIS OTHER TEMPORARY SOLUTION WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME OUT BY WORK OF, YOU KNOW, I, WHERE VERY SMALL NONPROFITS ARE MOSTLY VOLUNTEERS TO CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE.

WE KNOW WE HAD A COVID PROTOCOL WITH TEMPERATURE CHECKS AND SOCIAL DISTANCE PLATFORMS THAT WE CREATED MORE THAN SIX FEET APART, YOU KNOW, TO, TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING TEMPORARY UNTIL IT WAS SAFE, AGAIN, TO BE ENDORSED.

AND WE NEVER MEANT TO DISRUPT ANYBODY'S, UM, UH, RIGHT NOW.

AND HONESTLY THEY REACH OUT TO THE CITIES TO FIND IT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T WANNA BREAK ANY RULES, BUT IT'S TRYING TO FIND A TEMPORARY SOLUTION UNTIL WE CAN SAFELY GO INSIDE.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP, OF COURSE, A NONPROFIT ALIVE, AS OPPOSED AS, AS WELL AS KEEP THE ARTISTS WORKING, YOU KNOW, THE CLASSES AND THE, AND

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THE, AND YOU KNOW, AND ALL THE ARTISTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IDEA OF THE WELLNESS CLASSES THAT WE OFFER THAT KEEP PEOPLE BOTH MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY HEALTHY, YOU KNOW, AND WE DO STUFF AT LOW COST, NO COST.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD, EXERCISE GROUPS, SENIORS, PARKINSON GROUPS, CHILDREN'S, YOU KNOW, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN WE DEFINITELY ARE REACHING OUT TO NEIGHBORS TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THEM, TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOLUTIONS, TO FIND COMMON GROUND.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE EVER THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DO.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO WANT TO LISTEN AND BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

I LIVE HERE, UH, I'M RAISING MY CHILDREN HERE.

THEY WERE BORN HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US, THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS THAT ARE SPEAKING UP AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE OUR TWO FIVE, TWO, FIVE, 2,500 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SIGNING LETTERS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, TO KIND OF BEING ABLE TO, TO, TO, TO FIGURE IT OUT, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY TRYING TO RESPECT EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, THIS NEIGHBOR HAS GROWN A LOT AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN A REGULAR TIMES IS THEN, YOU KNOW, THE RESTAURANTS ON CESAR CHAVEZ AND FEATHER ANALYSIS, PEOPLE DO VALET PARKING HERE.

THERE'S BIG DEVELOPMENTS AS PRIVATE CLUBS, THERE'S COFFEE SHOPS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST NEW HOUSES THAT HAVE INCREASED, YOU KNOW, THE DESERT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE ARE A SMALL NONPROFIT TRYING TO BRING CULTURE AND MUSIC AND TRYING TO PROVIDE THAT VITAL THINGS FOR THE EAST AUSTIN THAT OTHER GENTRIFICATION HAS TAKEN OUT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND WHERE PEOPLE FROM THE PROJECT ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE THE FREE CLASSES AND, YOU KNOW, THE SUMMER CAMPS FOR CHILDREN THAT OTHERWISE THEY WILL NEVER BE TO DO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE DEFINITELY TRY TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE HERE IN THE EAST AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE ALL HAVE TO, IT'S, IT'S A HARD TIME FOR EVERYBODY.

SO AGAIN, LIKE WE'RE REACHING OUT TO NEIGHBORS, TRYING TO LISTEN TO THEM.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD EVENTS SINCE, YOU KNOW, SINCE, YOU KNOW, SINCE THIS HAPPENED AND WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T MEAN TO DISRESPECT THEM.

YOU KNOW, WE ALSO THERE'S LIKE ACROSS THE STREET, THERE'S ILLEGAL BUSINESSES GOING ON.

THERE'S LIKE A IMPROPER MECHANIC SHOP ON PARALLEL STREET THAT THEY'RE PARKING ON THE SIDEWALK, THERE'S GANG SHELTERS, POLICE COME IN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING HERE.

LIKE IT'S A VERY ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ESTABLISHED FOR RE FOR SURE, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN IS MOVING CLOSER AND CLOSER IN, AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT FROM THE RIVER.

SO, YOU KNOW, HOUSES THAT BEFORE USED TO BE ALL EMPTY.

NOW, THEY'RE LIKE HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, UNITS AND, AND BUILD THIS AND ARE HERE, WE ARE MAINTAINING AN ORIGINAL BUILDING TRYING TO, AGAIN, SUPPORT THE, YOU KNOW, DO THESE OTHER THINGS LIKE WHY MCA IS DOING OTHER CLASSES, BALLET, AUSTIN IS DOING CLASSES FOR UP TO 30 PEOPLE AT A STATE PARKING LOT.

ZACHARY SCOTT THEATER, DIVA.

THERE'S A LOT OF STUDIOS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DANCING A MOVEMENT IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IS NOT SUCH FOR FUN.

IT'S REALLY FOR MENTAL WELLNESS.

AND WHICH RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE IN A PANDEMIC.

THIS IS NOTHING THAT WE EVER EXPECTED TO LEAVE.

AND THEN TRYING TO RESPECT EVERYTHING.

AND EVERYBODY WE'RE JUST TRYING TO WORK, HAVE THE CITY WORK WITH US.

AND I KNOW A LOT OF OTHER NONPROFITS ARE SUFFERING AND THE MUSICIANS ARE SUFFERING AND I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S SUFFERING.

SO, UH, FINDING A TEMPORARY SOLUTION, UH, TO, TO, TO BE ABLE TO, TO OPERATE SOMEHOW.

YEAH.

I WAS ASSIGNED BY 2,500 PEOPLE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, ONCE I HAVE BEEN AT THE MOMENT AND, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL THERE'D BE MORE THAT CAME ALREADY, VERY PEOPLE.

WE WILL SHARE THIS, COME OVER.

YOU SHOULD HAVE TO SEE A CONCERT, VERY QUIET GONE SO THAT I KNOW THE CONCERTS I ROCK ON ROCK BAND, PLAYING CARD, YOU KNOW, SOLUBLE SINALOA.

YOU SEE, UH, NO, WE ON BOARD IN ANY, ANY, ANY ID MUSIC, UH, SAY THAT'S NOT, UH, WHAT, AND THEN WE, WE, WE, IT FED AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AND THEN WE FINISHED, THEY LAID THIS ON NINE, 7:00 PM, 9:30 PM.

TIMEFRAME.

IT'S NOT, AGAIN, WE WEREN'T ON THE 12 OR TWO O'CLOCK I HEAR LIKE TWO, FOUR O'CLOCK.

NOW WE ARE IN THROWN SEVEN O'CLOCK TO NINE SATURDAY BME.

AND THEN THESE ARE THE ONE THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN WE FEED THEM.

YOU'RE SICK.

UH, WE, I LEAVE HERE, MONICA, I LIVE NEXT DOOR.

WE ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PRACTICALLY, UH, THESE TWO HOUSES.

I DON'T, WE LIFT EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, NOW I CAN GO TO MY HOUSE, BUT REGULARLY, YOU KNOW, WE, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE ALSO, EH, I DON'T SEE ANY WRONG, YOU KNOW, TO, TO HAVE ONCE A WEEK, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONCE WEEK ON SATURDAY AND THEN CROP IT, PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY.

AND THEN IN THE MOMENT I REALLY COULDN'T THE GARDEN, HONESTLY, THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, YOU, YOU GUYS, YOUR FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS, IT'S BEEN HARD TO SEE ANY ACTION FROM THE CITY TO HELP THE ARTS IN DURING THIS PANDEMIC.

AND I KNOW IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO, BUT THERE'S SO

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MANY SPACES AND WE CREATED A VERY SAFE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL DISTANCE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE IN THEIR PATHS, YOU KNOW, WE CHECKED THE TEMPERATURE AND I WISH THE CITY WOULD HELP US NONPROFIT TO STAY ALIVE, HELP OTHER NONPROFITS, HELP MUSICIANS AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND FIGURE OUT A WAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

I, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY HAVE REACHED OUT OR FOR SOLUTIONS AND TRY TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T MEAN TO DISRESPECT ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, I, I, YOU KNOW, I LIVE HERE, I RAISING MY CHILDREN.

I DON'T WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

AND SO, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S SUCH, SUCH COMPLICATED TIMES.

SO I WANTED TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORS OF GIVING FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY SOME SPECIFIC CONCERNS.

I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO US.

SO, UM, MONICA AND GUSTAVO, IT SOUNDS, SO YOU HAVE, WHAT'S GOING ON IS A TWO-PRONGED THING.

YOU HAVE OUTDOOR EXERCISE BANDS AND EXERCISE CLASSES THAT YOU STARTED AS A COVID MEASURE.

THEY USED TO BE INDOOR, BUT YOU STARTED USING YOUR, YOUR OUTDOOR SPACE AND THEN YOU'RE ALSO HAVING SOME MUSIC EVENTS.

SO YEAH, YOU, YOU WERE, SO WHAT CAN YOU TELL US, LIKE WHAT THE FREQUENT, LIKE, WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS? CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT IT GOING ON REALLY LATE OR REALLY OFTEN.

SO CAN YOU TELL US, LIKE WHAT, WHAT'S A SCHEDULE THAT, THAT YOU'D LIKE TO KEEP TO GO ON SET, IT'S GOING MAYBE, YOU KNOW, FRIDAY INSIDE GO TODAY, UH, OR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, EVEN INSIDE THE, OR FRIDAY, THERE'S NO, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE HAVE BANDS, UH, DURING THE WEEK, YOU KNOW, BACK AGAIN, WE'D HAVE LIKE FRIDAY OR SATURDAY AND THEN MAYBE EVEN SOME LIKE VERY LOW KEY GOING SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

SO WHY NOT LOOK IN THE AFTERNOON? IT'S NOT THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THAT GAME, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW P IT'S NOT IDEAL.

LIKE YOU SEE THIS VERY, VERY GONE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT, EH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MAYBE I CAN SEND BD OFF THAT WAY.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE IT A POC, YOU KNOW, BUT, UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S A VERY, VERY RELAXED, IT'S NOT MESSING REALLY.

AND AFTER, LIKE, AFTER THE NEIGHBORS APPROACHED YOU ABOUT, I SAID, I THINK THEY TALKED ABOUT A DRUM CIRCLE OR DRUMMING YOU, IT SOUNDS LIKE, DID THAT, DID YOU DOING THAT? OR IF SHE DIDN'T, NO, WE DIDN'T.

WE DIDN'T.

YEAH.

AND THE DRUM, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY FOR THE DANCERS TO DANCE, TO LIVE MUSIC AND, YOU KNOW, FOR EDDIE WAS FOR A STRAIGHT ONE HOUR.

UM, BUT I DID TELL HIM, I WAS LIKE, THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, LIKE, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE, NIGGA, LIKE, IF IT IS NOT NEGOTIABLE, LIKE YOU CANNOT, LIKE, THERE'S DRUMMER, YOU CANNOT REALLY DEAL WITH THEM.

OKAY.

WE CAN WAIT FOR THE DRUMMING TO GO INSIDE OR TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

LIKE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S LIKE FINDING SOME SORT OF COMMON GROUND.

IT WAS LIKE, WHAT CAN YOU LIVE WITH THEM? CAN YOU NOT LIVE WITH, YOU KNOW, AND YEAH.

I MEAN, AND THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF LIKE THE MUSICIAN HAD IN WORK IN SEVEN MONTHS.

RIGHT.

AND THEN TEACHERS HAVEN'T DONE.

SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A BUILDUP THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE GETTING OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, BUT DEFINITELY, YEAH, WE, WE, WE DIDN'T DO IT AGAIN ONCE THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY TOLD US THAT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL ARE FINE WITH MUSIC, NOT GOING LATE.

LIKE JUST STOP.

BUT I THINK A COUPLE OF TIMES SHE'D SAY LIKE NINE 30, YOU'RE FINE WITH THAT, FOR SURE.

YEAH.

YEAH, SURE.

YEAH.

AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT I ALSO OFFERED TO THE MUSICIANS TO THEM, SORRY TO THE NEIGHBORS TO BE LIKE, OKAY, WAIT, WE KNOW IT.

WE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE LIVE HERE.

SO IT'S LIKE SOMETIMES IF IT IS JUST THE TWO OF US TALKING, WE ARE LATIN AMERICAN.

SO SHE HAS A JOB HAS, CAN BE VERY LIGHTLY WITHOUT, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, JUST OUR PERSONALITIES.

SO I SAID, OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, REALLY, REALLY, AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE'VE GOTTEN SOME COURTENS TOO AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ALSO SOMETHING, SO TO COME A FLASH, MORE THE SOUND FROM THE FENCE, NUMBER SEVEN, AND I'M JUST RE I JUST WAS TAKING NOTES AS OUR SPEAKERS WERE TALKING.

SO THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT COVID PRECAUTIONS.

CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT LIKE, WHAT, WHAT MEASURES YOU ARE TAKING, OR YOU'RE PREPARED TO CONTINUE TO TAKE WHERE WOULD I GO INTO SOME PLACE? AND HE'D HAVE YOU WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS AREA, YOU KNOW, THESE PLATFORMS, LIKE YOU GOT A SIX FOOT, UH, BY EIGHT FOOT, UH, AND PRACTICALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE SIX FEET APART FROM EACH PLATFORM.

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HE SAID, WHY? YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT FAMILY FEEL SAFE, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL COME TO CONCERTS, EH, AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

NO MANY PLACES ARE, YOU CAN GO SIT HERE TODAY.

SO WE HAD AN ENGINEER THAT ACTUALLY DREW THE PLAN AND HE GREW THE W WHICH IS A FRIEND, RIGHT.

HE VOLUNTEER, DREW THEIR PLAN THROUGH THE PLATFORM'S SOCIALLY DISTANT FROM ONE ANOTHER.

WE KNOW, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A NUMBER OF IT'S OUR BOARD WORK HARD INTO HAVE LIKE A HEALTH GUIDELINES IN WHICH PEOPLE HAD TO LIKE WEAR A MASK TO COME IN, YOU KNOW, HAVE A, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVE A TEMPERATURE CHECK.

YOU CAN ONLY BE THE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF, YOU GOT TO STAY WHEN YOU TAKE THE DANCE CLASS IN YOUR PLATFORM AND SO FORTH.

SO WE DO HAVE GUIDELINES THAT WE ABIDE BY.

UM, AND SO I HAD THIS, WHEN YOU GUYS WERE AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, AFTER THAT, I, I CONTACTED CITY STAFF AND ASKED IF THEY COULD ATTEND THE MEETING.

UM, AND JUST BECAUSE IT WAS SO CLOSE TO THE HOLIDAY IS THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT, UM, SO I SPOKE WITH, OR EMAILED WITH BRIAN BLOCK ABOUT, UH, SOUND PERMITTING.

AND I KNOW YOU'VE HAD SOME INTERACTION WITH, UH, HE TOLD ME YOU HAD HAD SOME INTERACTION WITH CITY STAFF.

SO CAN YOU TELL US, LIKE, WHAT, WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TOLD? WELL, NOW WE'RE BASICALLY, I MEAN, THEY, WHAT THEY CAN TELL US THAT WE CANNOT HAVE AMPLIFYING SOUND, YOU KNOW, THINK FROM A NEIGHBOR.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S WHY, LIKE, I'M TRYING TO FIND CREATIVE SOLUTIONS BECAUSE THAT'S THE REAL, THIS IS A YEAR OF BEING CREATIVE AND TRYING TO REINVENT YOURSELF EVERY TIME TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO KEEP EVERYBODY GOING, TO KEEP PEOPLE HEALTHY AND TO BE, TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, OUR NONPROFIT AND, YOU KNOW, BE HEALTHY.

SO WE, SO, YEAH, SO THAT'S, THAT, THAT WAS WHAT PRETTY MUCH THE, YOU KNOW, BRIAN SAID, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

YEAH.

SO IT'S EMAILED TO ME, HE, HE TOUCHED ON THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.

UM, BUT THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE UNDER THAT FOR A CLUB OR LODGE FOR PROFIT THERE'S MEMBERSHIPS OR, UH, GUESTS OF NUMBERS.

AND, BUT I THINK IT'S, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK AND HAVE THIS BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME, BECAUSE THEY HAVE OFFERED TO LIKE, CLARIFY SOME OF THESE THINGS.

UM, HAVE YOU TALKED WITH YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE? I TRIED, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO, UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, THERE'VE BEEN SOME EMAILS BACK AND FORTH WITH THEIR STAFF, BUT THEY BASICALLY GOT BACK TO THE CITY.

SO, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT THEY TOLD US.

SO, UM, SO YEAH, SO WE HAVEN'T HEARD.

AND AT THE POINT YET IT'S BEEN, THE FRUSTRATION IS WITH THE CITY, NOT WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORS WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, LIVE IN THEIR HOUSE AND I WANT TO RESPECT THEM AND WORK, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT THINGS WITH EVERYBODY.

LIKE, I'M A NEIGHBOR TOO.

I MEAN, I LIVE HERE AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A VERY SMALL NONPROFIT.

UM, SO THE FRUSTRATION IS WITH THE CITY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS TIME WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO LIKE, EVEN COVID, DOESN'T KILL YOU, THE CITY RULES WHEEL, LIKE, CAN WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT WORK.

SO, YOU KNOW, SO, SO THAT THESE, THE LIVE CAPITOL CITY OF, YOU KNOW, MUSIC OF THE WORLD, THE WORLD AND THE CITY THAT I MOVED TO WHEN I ACTUALLY MOVED TO THESE DUSTIN, BECAUSE I'M FROM LATIN AMERICA.

AND WE REALLY FELT LIKE THIS WAS A PLACE LIKE, FELT LIKE HOME AND WE WANT TO PRESERVE CULTURE.

AND I FEEL THE CITY SHOULD SUPPORT PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.

AND I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THE ARTS FOR OVER 20 YEARS TRYING TO REALLY RAISE THE BAR.

AND NOW CITY JUST SAYS, I'M SORRY, YOU'RE FRUSTRATED.

AND, AND I THINK THAT THEY COULD DO BETTER THAN THAT.

SURE.

SO YOU KNOW THAT HE SAID THAT THERE IS A GUIDELINE FOR, FOR A BUSINESS, OR WE ARE A NONPROFIT.

I KNOW IF WE FEED THEM, THAT GUY LACKS THAT IS, I NOTICE HE, NOW WE NEED TO ARGUE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CITY ACTUALLY RELIEF HERE, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALSO PLAY MUSIC, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I WENT TO A FRIEND'S HOUSE AND THEY PLAYED LIVE MUSIC, AND NOBODY IS SAYING THAT AT HOME, WE LIVE HERE, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING, HONESTLY, HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING.

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING CONCERTS IN THEIR YARDS AND ALL OVER THE CITY TRYING TO BE POP UP.

AND THE SAFE THINGS TO DO IS OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO BE CLEANING BIRD POOP AT, YOU KNOW, ARE DEALING WITH RAIN AND COLD AND ALL THIS STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH BEING OUTSIDE.

WE HAVE A VERY NICE PLACE IN DOORS.

LIKE I LOVE , BUT UNTIL, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE SAVED LIKE RIGHT NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IS, IT WAS KIND OF A NO BRAINER

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THAT THE OUTDOOR IS A SAFE, SAFE SOLUTION, AND PEOPLE DON'T DO ANYTHING.

AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE DO THINGS INSIDE, BUT WE DON'T FEEL SAFE.

UM, YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO MONOPOLIZE THIS IF OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS.

UM, BUT I, I, TO ME, WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS LIKE WHAT WE, IT NEEDS TO BE SOME COMPROMISE, WORKED OUT WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND, UM, AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH.

AND I MEAN, AND I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY THINGS TOO, THAT YOU CAN ADDRESS.

I MEAN, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT TRASH AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, COULD BE WORKED OUT.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE QUESTION OF WORKING WITH THE CITY AND CLARIFYING RULES, BUT ALSO COMING UP WITH CREATIVE SOLUTIONS, BECAUSE I DO THINK THE CITY HAS, WE HAVE TRIED TO SOLVE PROBLEMS IN OTHER AREAS, WHETHER IT'S FUNDING OR, UM, PROGRAMS ALLOWING CERTAIN BUSINESSES TO USE THEIR PARKING LOT.

SO I DON'T THINK THE, THE SHOP, THE BLOCKS PROGRAM THAT EXISTS, I THINK IT WAS MOSTLY TARGETED RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL.

AND, UH, I'VE BEEN IN AN ARTS ORGANIZATION DOESN'T, DOESN'T FOLLOW AND FALL UNDER THE GUIDELINES FOR THAT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A COMPANION PROGRAM COULD BE DEVELOPED AND NOT THE PACKING, THE SHOP, THE BLOCK PROGRAM CAME TOGETHER PRETTY QUICKLY, LIKE OVER THE SUMMER, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY.

UM, SO I GUESS, AND I'M NOT SURE, UH, WHAT DIVISION OR DEPARTMENT OR HOW THAT COMES ABOUT.

LIKE, THAT MAY BE A QUESTION FOR, UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT LIKE THE PROCESS FOR DEVELOPING, SO SYNOVIA, HAUTE, REV, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S A QUESTION WE DEFINITELY CAN TALK WITH BRIAN BLOCK ABOUT, UM, TO WORK WITH ACE AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, ACES, A PART OF THAT AS WELL AS BRIAN.

HEY, MONICA JUST WANTED TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, DID Y'ALL BY CHANCE APPLY FOR ANY, UH, NON-PROFIT GRANTS THROUGH THE CITY? UM, THERE WERE, I KNOW THERE WERE, UH, SOME PROGRAMS ISSUED SPECIFICALLY, UM, FOR DURING COVID.

YES.

WELL, ANY FUNDING WE HAD ONE, YEAH.

WE HAD ONE GRANT THAT WAS, THAT WE WON.

THEN WE HAD A COUPLE DENIED AND ONE THAT WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO GET AS A NONPROFIT.

I THINK IT'S WHERE THE BUSINESS BUREAU WHERE WE'RE GIVEN ONE.

YEAH.

AND I IMAGINE THAT THAT'S JUST COVERING OVERHEAD.

YEAH, FOR SURE.

I MEAN, IT JUST, I MEAN, THE THING IS LIKE, YEAH, IT JUST STRETCHES IT LETS YOU GO AND LIVE WITH FURTHER, BUT, BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A WHOLE YEAR WORTH OF, YOU KNOW, UM, OF, OF BEING CLOSED AND, AND YEAH.

AND YEAH, SO THE GRANTS ONLY GOES SO FAR, UH, FOR SURE.

WE CANNOT NOT DEPEND ON THE GRANT FOR SURVIVAL.

NO, WE CAN'T.

AND ALSO WE WANT TO WORK.

I MEAN, WE WANT TO WORK, WE WANT TO BE ACTIVE CITIZENS.

WE WANT PEOPLE DO WE WANT TO, I MEAN, I, WHERE EMISSION, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO CHAIR CULTURE AND ARTS, YOU KNOW, THE MUSIC AND DANCE EVEN BECAME STRONGER DURING COVID BECAUSE THE LEVEL OF, OF, OF WELLNESS THAT WHAT WE DO GIVE TO PEOPLE DURING THESE OBSCURE TIMES IS ESSENTIAL FOR PEOPLE'S LIVELIHOODS.

SO WE, LIKE, IF I FELT LIKE BEFORE WE WERE IMPORTANT IN PEOPLE'S LIVES, NOW, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO BE THERE FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY DEPEND ON US.

I MEAN, AND EVERYBODY HAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, RIGHT? UM, I, YOU KNOW, BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY, DEFINITELY WE WANT TO WORK AND WE WANT ARTISTS WANTS TO WORK.

SO I MEAN, THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL BIG CITY.

I, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THERE COULD BE WAYS THAT WE COULD FIGURE IT OUT.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF MUSICIANS RIGHT NOW ARE DOING LIVE STREAM.

IS THERE, BY ANY CHANCE WAY YOU COULD DO LIVE STREAMING FROM INSIDE A SKEENA WITH A SMALL GROUP FORMING AND THEN STREAMING IT TO YOUR FAN BASE.

YEAH.

UH, WE THOUGHT WE'D LIVE AT TRAIN, BUT BY, YOU KNOW, MEAN, YOU SEE, SEAN IS SAY, KENT ALSO MEANT THAT HE HAD, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR HEART, YOU NEED TO PLAY, YOU NEED TO BLEED FOR BE BORN AFTER THE SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS.

AND I, ME ASIDE AND SAID, I NEED TO ASK FOR BOY, I NEED TO TEACH TO BE BORN.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S SAYING ACADEMY OUT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE STARTED WITH THIS IDEA OF BUILDING THE PLATFORMS AND I KNOW WHAT IS THE WEEDER ON DOWN DAY ON THE BOTTOM.

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AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW HOW HE BUGGED ME? I SAID BETTER.

SO NOW HE GOES OFF IT.

UM, I SAID, BET.

SO HE BUGGED ME AND THEN GO MEET, FEED HER BED AT ALL.

AND I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE ARE GONE WITH, WE ALWAYS CHAIRED GONE, SARAH, THAT IS SUCH A BIG SATISFACTION FOR ME BECAUSE I KNOW HOW I THRIVING WAS THE MOMENT FOR THEM TO, I WANTED TO SEE SHABBINESS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ON THE OTHER HAND, NOT ONLY FOR THE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE HAPPINESS IS LIKE, AS WITH US, AS WE STARTED WITH ONLINE, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED, WE GOT ONLY LIKE, AGAIN, LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO REINVENT OURSELVES.

WE'RE NOT JUST SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR THIS TO BE OVER AT THE BEGINNING.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE DOING ONLINE CLASSES, ONLINE MUSIC.

WE DID IT ALL AND PEOPLE WERE PARTICIPATING, BUT THAT THE ONLINE MAGIC, AS YOU KNOW, WE, THERE'S A WAY REALLY FAST TOO, OR NOT EVEN FAST.

IT WAS SIX, SEVEN MONTHS.

AND PEOPLE, HE WAS, PEOPLE WERE NOT REALLY TUNING IN ANYMORE.

YOU KNOW, THEY WERE, THEY WERE NOT, IT WAS NOT AS ENGAGED.

IT WAS NOT ENGAGING ANYMORE TO DO THAT, TO BE HONEST.

AND IT'S NOT THAT WE STOPPED, WE STILL HAVE ONLINE CLASSES.

WE STILL ARE DOING ONLINE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT EVEN GETTING OUT YET AND WE STILL WANTED TO, TO REACH TO EVERYBODY.

SO WE'RE STILL DOING ONLINE.

IT WOULD HELP WITH THAT.

AND WHICH CLASSES I KNOW THEM.

OKAY.

AND THE ONLY OTHER SOLUTION I CAN REALLY THINK OF IS, UH, COMPLETELY ACOUSTIC, UM, BY NOT AMPLIFYING SOUND, YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT FOR JUST PLAYING INSTRUMENTS OUTSIDE.

UM, AS LONG AS THEY'RE AGAIN, NOT AMPLIFIED.

UM, HAVE YOU TRIED THAT? WE, WE, YEAH, WE, WE, WE ARE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, I WE'RE, WE HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHICH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S PARTICULAR, YOU KNOW, MUSIC OR THAT, THE OTHER THING TOO, IS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE GOTTEN, UM, SOME FANCY LITTLE, UM, RADIOS TO DO SILENT DISCO.

SO WE KNOW AGAIN, LIKE WHY, AND WE DON'T WANT TO JUST BE LIKE, WAIT.

SO WE GOT DECIDED WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOTTEN THE SILENT DISCO, SO IT CAN BE, THE MUSIC CAN BE PLAYED THROUGH HEADPHONES.

NOT DON'T KNOW ABOUT DOING THAT THROUGH LIVE MUSIC, BUT NOW WE ARE LOOKING, WE ARE, WE GOT THOSE.

WE NEED TO TEST THEM OUT AND SEE HOW THEY CAN WORK.

RIGHT.

SUNDAY SCHOOL, WE FEEL LIKE THAT, BUT IT COULD SHINE, YOU KNOW, CUSHION.

HE CAN BE OUT AT THE AMPLIFIED MUSIC, BUT IT GOES, SHAWN, YOU'RE NOT LIKE THAT, BUT ALMOST THESE ARE WILD.

THEY BUYING THEM ALMOST IN A BAR.

IT WAS JUST SHUN.

IT WAS LIKE, PRACTICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THAT.

SAY IT BROUGHT IN AN ISSUE WITH ANY WORSE.

AND WE SAY, WELL, IT'S ABOUT ALLOWED TO DO THAT IN THE SHORT TERM.

I WOULD, UM, I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO CONTINUE, UM, TALKING WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS, BUT ALSO TALKING TO YOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, PO RENTERIA, CORRECT? YEP.

CONTINUE TO TALK WITH THEIR OFFICE.

WHICH ONE OF YOU, WHICH ONE OF Y'ALL IS CHIOS APPOINTEE AL YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY, HELLO.

MY NAME IS AL DUARTE AND I'M THE COMMISSIONER FOR THE DISTRICT THREE.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND I REALLY KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD WELL, LIKE ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T REALLY TOUCH, OR MAYBE WE CAN FIND A COMPROMISE ON THE HOUR.

IT SEEMS THAT A MAJOR CONCERN NEIL OR ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS WERE WHERE THE HOURS AND THE LATE NIGHT HOURS, I THINK IF WE COULD, JUST, UNTIL WE FOUND A REMEDY, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE HOURS OF IT, YOU KNOW, TRY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVE A LITTLE MAYBE IN THAT AREA, BUT YEAH.

SO I'M STILL GETTING THOSE COME WITH DINNER AND THAT IS, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AWESOME.

UM, SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UM, CAN KIM, ARE YOU KIM, THE CARTS, ARE YOU ALL HERE? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ON PROCESS.

SO I GOT, I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE APPROACHED YOU.

YOU'RE KIND OF AT THE LAST MINUTE TODAY ABOUT SPEAKING AND THEY HAD MISSED THE DEADLINE.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT HOW IT WOULD BE GREAT TO MOVE THIS TO THE FUTURE AGENDA FOR THE FEBRUARY MEETING.

BUT I GOT A REALLY SHORT STATEMENT FROM SUSANNA SHARP BY EMAIL.

AND SHE, I JUST HAPPENED TO, I KNOW HER FOR A LONG TIME AND SHE LIVES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF OUTDOOR CONCERTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND ALSO IT WAS ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS THAT CREATED THE SHOP, THE BLOCK PROGRAM, WORKING WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, SO SUSANNA REACHED OUT TO ME.

CAN I, AM I ALLOWED TO READ THAT STATEMENT FROM HER? IS THAT, OR IS THAT YES, YOU CAN READ IT.

OKAY, AWESOME.

SO I, AND IT'S SHORT, SO I'LL JUST BE BRIEF.

UM, SO SUSANNA SHARP, LONG TIME MUSICIAN IN AUSTIN, SHE'S SUPER WELL RESPECTED.

UM, JUST AWESOME, FANTASTIC LADY.

UM, AND SHE SAID, I AM A PERFORMING MUSICIAN WITH A LONG HISTORY IN AUSTIN.

I'M WRITING TO SUPPORT A SKIN OF TANGO REQUESTS FOR TEMPORARY PERMISSION TO PROVIDE SERVICES

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OUTDOORS DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

THESE SERVICES INCLUDE DANCE CLASSES, LIVE MUSICAL PERFORMANCE, OTHER CULTURAL ACTIVITIES THAT ENRICH OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S GOING TO TANGO IS A BELOVED AUSTIN CULTURAL INSTITUTION.

WHO'S HONORED OWNERS, MONICA AND GUSTAVO HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY TO KEEP THEIR DOORS OPEN DURING THE COVID MONICA AND GUSTAVO WOULD HAVE KEPT HIS KEYNOTE ALIVE WITH BEAUTIFUL AND INVENTIVE SOLUTIONS, INCLUDING OUTDOOR, SOCIALLY LISTED PLATFORMS ON WHICH THE AUDIENCE CAN SIT IN VERY SMALL PODS OR DANCERS CAN DANCE.

I ORDERED THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO WORK WITH THE OWNERS ON A SOLUTION THAT WILL PERMIT THEM TO CONTINUE TO OFFER A LIFELINE TO THEIR CUSTOMERS THROUGH THE ARTS.

THANK YOU.

SUSANNA SHARP MUSICIAN.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ANY MORE, UM, ANY MORE FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS FOR MONICA GUSTAVO? UM, PROBABLY JUST LIKE TO, UH, PERSONALLY SAY THAT I, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN SINCE GOING TO TANGO AND I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE THROUGH THE YEARS.

AND, UM, WE JUST LIKE TO THANK Y'ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING.

UM, I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, I ALSO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS, UM, WAS, IS IMPORTANT AS WELL, BUT, UM, THE, THE WORK OF HEALING, UM, THE MEDICINE OF DANCE, THE MEDICINE OF CULTURE, UM, IS, IS POWERFUL.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT, I WANT YOU TO BE ENCOURAGED AND CONTINUE TO, TO FIGHT FOR THAT, UM, IN, IN THE CITY.

AND I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EASY FIGHT.

UM, UM, BUT, UH, AS AL WAS SAYING AS WELL, I FELT LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HEARD WAS CLEANLINESS, UM, YOU KNOW, LATE, LATE HOURS AND THINGS OF THAT, WHICH ARE ALSO IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S ALSO THE TYPE OF MEDICINE AS WELL.

UM, PEOPLE NEED TO FEEL SAFE, PEOPLE NEED TO FEEL RESTED.

UM, THEY NEED TO FEEL THAT CONCERN THAT MAKES PEOPLE CONCERNED.

UM, SO THOSE ARE ALSO THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN COME TO A GOOD RESOLUTION WITH THEIR SIDE.

I HOPE THAT YOU CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH AL AND, AND, AND OUR PO CAN HELP IN THIS, UM, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD NOTHING BUT AMAZING STORIES AND GREAT, UM, TESTIMONY ABOUT THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING.

AND SO, UM, I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST AND CONGRATULATIONS ON SURVIVING, MAKING IT IF YOU LEFT.

I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S TOUGH.

SO YEAH, THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S IMPRESSIVE.

AND IT'S JUST A STATEMENT TO YOUR COMMUNITY, OBVIOUSLY THAT SUPPORTS YOU AND WANTS YOU TO STICK AROUND.

SO, UM, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WE CAN A GOOD RESOLUTION THAT ALLOWS YOU ALL TO, TO GIVE THAT MEDICINE THAT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR YOUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO ALLOWS PEOPLE TO FEEL THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE REST AND THINGS THAT THEY NEED AS WELL, LISTENING TO THEM, FOR SURE.

HEY, SHAKA AND AL I THINK GIVEN THAT WE'VE GOT LIKE A REAL SOLID SITUATION, WE, OKAY.

COULD WE TAKE ACTION NEXT WEEK, NEXT, NEXT MONTH? AND JUST GET A REPORT BACK ON THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? WHAT KINDS OF THINGS GOT TRIED? CAUSE I MEAN, THIS IS CLEARLY, I'VE OBVIOUSLY MARKET, UH, THE WORK YOU'RE DOING IS SO IMPORTANT AND THE CONCERNS OF YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE SO IMPORTANT.

I WAS JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, CAN WE FALL BACK ON THIS UP NEXT MONTH AND HOPE TO SEE SOME KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME, SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION.

DID WE DO THAT? YEAH, I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING FOR SHARON.

SURE.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE

[2B. Discussion and Possible Action on goals and vision for the Music Commission in 2021. ]

GOING TO MOVE ON TO TWO B DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON GOALS AND VISION FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION IN 2021.

SO THAT'S KINDA WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING.

UM, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DID Y'ALL HAVE, BUT, UH, WE CAN TAKE A MOMENT.

DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT MUCH.

UH, TOM, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS BACK UP IN FEBRUARY, BUT IF ANYONE HAS ANY IDEAS, UM, VISION FOR THE COMMISSION FOR 2021, LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND.

I THINK A GOOD PLACE TO START IS JUST, LIKE YOU SAID, REACHING OUT TO OUR, UH, FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE REPRESENT.

UM,

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UM, AND THEN TAKING IT A STEP FURTHER AND DOING MAYBE A TOWN HALL TO WHERE IN EACH DISTRICT, UM, TO SEE WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE ARE, WHAT THEIR THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IN THEIR DISTRICTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

YEP.

AND I'D SAY WE LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THE TOWN HALL MEETING IS PERFECT AND REALLY TRYING TO MIRROR WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE INTEREST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEEK, MAYBE COMMISSIONER'S SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER WITH, UM, MAYBE NOT A FORUM, BUT, YOU KNOW, ATTENDING SOME OF THE THINGS OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE WE CAN SEND SOME PERSONAL INVITE OR GET TO KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WORK, YOU KNOW, OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT OR ENCOURAGE THAT FOR OUR, YOU KNOW, SITUATION.

SO YEAH, I KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO BE TOUGH KEEPING SCHEDULES, BUT MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT UP, YOU KNOW? WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S THE THING FOR ME THAT I FEEL LIKE HAS BEEN MISSING IS, UM, JUST THE TIME IN THE MEETING WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR DISTRICTS.

UM, SO I FELT LIKE JUST ADDING THAT TO EACH MEETING, UM, JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO JUST SHARE WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE SOME SPECIFIC, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, WE CAN SHARE THAT DOING, UM, IN OUR DISTRICTS AND AS A MUSIC COMMISSION AS WELL.

CAUSE I MEAN, LIKE ONE THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, I NOTICED THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN CREATE THIS AND WE DON'T HAVE LIKE ANY TYPE OF PRESENCE ON FACEBOOK.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF PRESENCE.

YOU KNOW, OUR PRESENCE IS BASICALLY ONLINE IS REALLY A WEBSITE THAT REALLY LACKS A LOT OF PERSONALITIES, THE CITY WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, UM, IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MUSIC COMMISSION, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A, SOME MUNDANE HUMDRUM SITUATION.

UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF LIKE PUBLIC FACING THINGS, UM, TO JUST, UH, MAKE PEOPLE MORE INTERESTED IN, IN, IN, IN INVOICING, COMING TO THESE MEETINGS AND VOICING THEIR OPINION AND SHARING INFORMATION WITH US.

UM, I GET A LOT OF PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME PERSONALLY, BUT, UM, NOT A LOT OF INTEREST IN NECESSARILY COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND VOICING, AND I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF THAT'S ON US.

IT'S JUST LIKE MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A RELEVANT PLACE FOR THEM TO, TO COME WITH CONCERNS, IDEAS, WHATEVER.

UM, SO YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS IDEAS ON THAT, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I THINK ONE THING IS CREATING THE SPACE WITHIN THE MEETINGS, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, MAYBE INVITE SOMEBODY FROM YOUR DISTRICT OR WHATEVER, EVERY DISTRICT SHOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE SOMETHING, EVERY MEETING AND WHATEVER THAT IS, IT SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE.

YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THAT.

NO, CHUCK I'M REALLY GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, THE WEBSITE BECAUSE, UH, AS PART OF THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR THE A, A E D C UH, SOME, SOMEONE REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID, HEY, I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT YOUR PROCESS AND YOU DIDN'T REACH OUT.

YOU SHOULD LOOK INTO WHAT THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE HAS DONE.

AND I LOOKED AT THEIR WEBSITE AND MY FIRST THOUGHT IS LIKE, AND THEY HAD IT ALL WRITTEN OUT OF, OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS WERE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR AND, YOU KNOW, INVITING PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR THEIR AEDC DESIGNATED POSITION.

AND I REALIZED WE DID NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR WEBSITE TO REACH OUT, TO PUBLICIZE THIS DISAPPOINTMENT.

AND IT JUST NEVER OCCURRED, OCCURRED TO ME TO ASK THE CITY TO UPDATE OUR PAGE.

AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START, BUT I NOTICED AS IT WASN'T EASY TO SEE, EVEN IT SHOULD BE REALLY EASY, RIGHT ON THE PAGE.

YOU SHOULD SAY, YOU WANT TO SEE THE VIDEO OF OUR LAST MEETING HERE IT IS, AND CLICK AND BRING IT UP ON AND BRING IT UP ON THE CITY SITE AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND IT'S NOT, EVERYTHING TAKES A FEW CLICKS TO GET, TO GET TO THESE THINGS.

SO LET'S THAT, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY EASY AREA FOR US TO IMPROVE OUR, UH, OUR OUTREACH BY HAVING A DYNAMIC WEBPAGE THAT TELLS WHAT'S REALLY UP.

RIGHT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IT'S POSSIBLE WITH THAT, UH, THROUGH THE CITY, WHICH IS WHY I WAS IF LIKE A FACEBOOK PAGE OR SOMETHING, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING EASIER, UM, AT THE MOMENT, BUT, UM, FOLKS, SO NOVIO ARE FOLKS.

CAN YOU CHIME IN ON IT? UH, YES.

THANK YOU.

SHAKA.

WE HAVE TO FOLLOW CERTAIN PROTOCOLS WHEN IT COMES TO RC WEB PAGES.

SO I WILL HAVE OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION MANAGER PROVIDE WRITTEN INSTRUCTIONS ON WHAT CAN AND CANNOT HAPPEN AT THIS TIME.

WE ARE DEFINITELY LIMITED ON OUR FACEBOOK SITES.

UM, JUST BASED ON THE CONSOLIDATION WE'VE GONE THROUGH AS A DEPARTMENT.

SO LET ME HAVE HIM BRING BACK SOME FORMAL, UM,

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RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW YOU CAN GET, UM, THE WORD OUT, BUT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW PROTOCOLS OUTLINED BY THE CITY.

I FIND THAT TO BE LIKE A BIG CHALLENGE IN COMMUNICATING WITH PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IS LIKE I SENT HIM TO THE THING AND I'M LIKE, WELL, WHERE IS IT? AND THEN DID THEY GOT TO GO BACK AND FORTH ABOUT IT AND HAVE THEM FIND IT? SO I THINK, UM, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT POSSIBLY WE COULD BRING TO THE MEETING NEXT TIME, OR, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CHIME IN ON, UM, ANY OTHER IDEAS FOR 2021.

ANYBODY HAVE SOME, SO FOR ME, I MEAN, I DON'T REPRESENT SPECIFIC DISTRICTS, THE MAYOR'S APPOINTEE, UH, AM I, MY, MY VIDEO KEEPS FREEZING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE WORKED A LOT ON WAS GETTING THAT, UH, FUNDING FOR MUSIC, WHICH WAS THEN, WHICH WAS TIED TO, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE EXPANDED CONVENTION CENTER AND, UH, OR WE'VE ALSO IN PARALLEL THEN WORKING QUITE A BIT, UM, UH, TRYING TO MAKE THE WORK DONE BY THE MUSIC DIVISION AND BY THE ARTS DIVISION TO BE MORE EQUITABLE.

SO WE'RE BROADENING WHO WE'RE SUPPORTING IN A VERY IMPORTANT WAY AFTER A YEAR LIKE THIS, THE EXPANSION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S AT EXACTLY, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A BOOM IN COUPLE OF YEARS FOR, UH, CONVENTIONS AND WE'RE WITH, WITH, UH, FUNDING.

SO TIED TO HOTEL, BED TAX, OR TIME OUT A SHRINKING POOL OF MONEY FOR A DRAMATICALLY EXPANDED SCOPE OF SERVICES.

AND IN, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, CONCERN ON THE ARTS SIDE WHERE SOME OF THE FUNDING, I BELIEVE IT'S THE CULTURAL CONTRACTS, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT'S BEING, TRYING TO BE EXPANDED FOR, FOR PROFITS, WHICH IS A WAY OF ACCOMMODATING USER GROUPS THAT ARE NOT OFFICIAL NONPROFITS IS I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, UH, TALK GOING AROUND.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT EXACTLY IS HAPPENING, BUT NONETHELESS, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO DO MORE FOR MORE PEOPLE WITH LESS.

AND SO TO ME, ONE OF OUR OVERARCHING GOALS, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE A REAL IMPACT, WE'RE GOING TO NEED REAL RESOURCES AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES IN PARTICULAR.

UM, SO AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, OBVIOUSLY THE CITY IS A CHALLENGE FOR FINANCIAL RESOURCES.

SO HOW, HOW WE SOLVE THAT PUZZLE TO ME IS A GIANT CHALLENGE FOR US AND AN OVERARCHING CONCERN BECAUSE WE'RE SENDING THESE IMPORTANT GOALS AND IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THEM, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, HAVE, HAVE EVERYTHING LINE UP SO THAT THE STAFF AND WE, AND, AND EVERYONE INVOLVED HAS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO MAKE THIS WORK.

YEAH.

ANYBODY WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT? OR, UH, YEAH, WELL, SOMEWHAT RELATED TO CONVENTION CENTER OR OTHER OTHER CITY SPACE.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE FOR US AS A COMMISSION TO, TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO, UM, LEVERAGE CITY OWNED LAND AND CITY OWNED SPACES, TO HELP WITH THE AFFORDABILITY OF CREATIVE SPACE AND EVEN POSSIBLY HOUSING THAT COULD BE LIVE WORKSPACES FOR MUSICIANS AND ARTISTS.

I THINK OUR CITY COULD BE QUITE VISIONARY IN THAT RESPECT IF WE PURSUE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, SO I JUST THINK AS A GROUP, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO BE MINDFUL ABOUT AND TO BRING PRESSURE ON THAT.

UM, AND, UH, SECOND THING IS JUST LEVERAGING THE POSSIBILITY OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT BRINGING OUR TECH INDUSTRY.

AND SO SPORT OUR MUSIC AND ARTS COMMUNITY, I THINK THERE COULD BE A REALLY BRILLIANT WIN-WIN PARTNERSHIP THERE.

SO I DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC IDEAS AT THIS TIME.

I DO THINK THAT SOMETHING THAT THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION CAN TAP INTO, UM, BUT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AS A GROUP, I WANT US TO STAY MINDFUL OF AND BRING SOME FOCUS TO THAT SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT, THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, THAT FUNDING, UM, AND SO ON THE GROUNDS TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, SOMEBODY ELSE THAT HASN'T SHARED SO FAR, ANYBODY ELSE,

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GAVIN? SURE.

I THINK WE COULD ALSO, UH, ADD TO OUR AGENDA SOME OF THE UNFINISHED BUSINESS, UH, THAT MUSIC COMMISSIONS OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, UH, IT SOUNDED LIKE THE AGENT OF CHANGE, UH, WAS SOMETHING WE WERE NEARING, UH, SOLUTION FOR UP UNTIL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

AND SO I THINK WE CAN REVISIT THAT BECAUSE IT WILL IMPACT OF COURSE, THE RECOVERY OF THE CORE OF THE CITY OF SIXTH STREET, SEVENTH STREET, WHERE THOSE DOLLARS AS GRAHAM IS UNDERSCORING ARE GOING TO RECOVER, UH, DURING SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST AND OTHER EVENTS AT SOME POINT.

SO, UM, I THINK THE CLOSER WE WORK WITH, UM, ASSOCIATIONS LIKE THE RED RIVER CULTURAL DISTRICT AND SIXTH STREET ASSOCIATION THAT EPIC CONCERT ASSOCIATION AND INTERPRET, UM, I GUESS THE DATA THAT WE'LL CREATE IN 2023, REALLY IN 24 AND FORWARD THAT FUNDING FOR THE HOT MONEY TO ACTUALLY, UH, PENETRATE, UH, SOCIAL CHANGE OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

BUT AGAIN, AS GRANT POINTED OUT, WITHOUT THE HOTELS BEING FILLED, THERE WON'T BE ANY HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX MONEY TO MAKE ANY KIND OF MAJOR CHANGE.

RIGHT.

SO, SO I THINK WE, UM, ARE IN RECOVERY MODE AS ARE THE MAJOR CAPITALS OF THE WORLD AND OTHER CITIES AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE RECEIVED MORE FUNDING THAN WE HAVE THAN AUSTIN HAS YOU THROUGH DIFFERENT MEANS, UM, FOR THEIR MUSIC INDUSTRIES.

AND ALSO THEY, THEY HAVE JUST DIFFERENT ELEMENTS.

OURS IS SO PREDICATED OR IT HAS BEEN ON ACL AND SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO WE'RE IN A MOMENT, I THINK IN TIME WHERE WE COULD, UH, END THIS CODEPENDENCY ON THESE TWO FESTIVALS FOR INCOME FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE CITY.

AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT AND I CAN SEE THE MUSIC COMMISSION, UH, CREATING A FOCAL POINT, UH, WHAT THE RECOVERY IS OF THE INDUSTRY.

THAT'S FAIR.

ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, JUST, UM, I AGREE WITH, UH, WITH GAVIN SAYING, AND I KEEP FEELING LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS I KEEP FEELING LIKE, AND I REALIZED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLICATIONS AND THERE ARE THINGS LIKE INSURANCE, AND THERE ARE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MUCH COMPLICATION IN PARTICULAR RIGHT NOW AROUND COVID, BUT WHEN AT THE RISK OF GETTING INTO WHATEVER KIND OF HOT WATER OR THESE KIND OF COMMENTS CAN BRING THE KIND OF TENSION THAT SHOWS UP AROUND THINGS LIKE HOT TACKS AND AROUND THE CONVENTION CENTER AND ABOUT THE, THE DIVISIVENESS THAT ALL OF THAT BRINGS UP ABOUT WHETHER THE CONVENTION CENTER IS MEANINGFUL, IF IT'S NOT SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST OR WHATEVER, AND I'M SURE THE, THIS CITY, UM, THE HUMANS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN FIGURING THESE OUT, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE'RE ALL HUMANS, WE'RE ALL TRYING AND IN OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN REALLY DISRUPTED BY ALL OF THIS IN WAYS THAT SOMETIMES THE PUBLIC DOESN'T REALLY CAN'T, CAN'T ALWAYS REALIZE THAT WE'RE ALL HUMAN AND WE'VE REALLY BEEN AFFECTED.

A LOT OF US HERE ON THIS COMMISSION ARE MUSICIANS, BUT I KEEP COMING BACK TO THIS THING ABOUT WHY DO WE HAVE THESE GIANT EXPENSIVE, BEAUTIFUL SPACES THAT ARE SO OFTEN NT AND UNUSED AND DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY ARE A PART OF OUR GREATER COMMUNITY.

WHY DO WE HAVE ALL OF THESE SPACES? WHY CAN'T WE FIND IN, IN THE, IN, IN THE SPIRIT OF WHAT EVERYONE HERE ON COMMISSION IS SAYING, WHY, WHY HAVE WE NOT YET BEEN ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER MORE, TO LOOK AT INNOVATIVE WAYS THAT WE COULD UTILIZE THESE SPACES AND BREAK OUT OF THESE FIXED IDEAS AND RULES AND, AND ALL OF THAT AND HOW THEY'RE QUOTE SUPPOSED TO BE USED, AND HOW CAN WE AS A CITY, BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN AN INNOVATIVE CITY AS A COMMUNITY, HOW CAN WE MAKE THINGS LIKE FOR INSTANCE, THE CONVENTION CENTER FEEL MORE TO THE COMMUNITY.

LIKE IT IS A RELEVANT SPACE THAT IS SERVING THE CITY AND NOT JUST DURING SOUTH, BY SOUTHWEST OR SOME CORPORATE CONVENTION OR WHATEVER, THAT DOESN'T REALLY TOUCH EVERY DAY.

PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO HAVE CREATIVE SPACES TO WORK IN.

HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THAT? WHICH WOULD ULTIMATELY NOT

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BY MANIPULATION, BUT ACTUAL ACTIONS CREATE A FEELING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT IT'S MEANINGFUL, THAT IT'S NOT JUST FOR CORPORATE USE.

IT'S NOT JUST FOR GIANT CONVENTIONS AND THAT THOSE SPACES COULD SOMEHOW BE ACCESSED AND MANAGED IN WAYS THAT MAKE IT SAFE AND WORK WITHIN THE CONFINES OF WHATEVER THE INSURANCE POLICIES ARE AND ALL OF THAT BUSINESS.

AND I KEEP NOT SAYING, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY IT NOW, THEN YOU PATRICE.

UM, ANYBODY ELSE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WRAP THIS UP BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE A LOT TO GET THROUGH.

UM, OKAY.

I DEFINITELY OBVIOUSLY WANT TO ADD THE EQUITY PIECE INTO THAT.

W WE HAVE A, UM, SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP.

THAT'S WHAT CAN SEPARATE FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION, BUT ALSO IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THE STEPPING UP IN 21 WITH SOME, WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR ALL ASPECTS OF THE, UH, THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN IN WAYS THAT WE CAN START TO LOOK AT, UM, CREATING, CREATING OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY, YOU KNOW, DISENFRANCHISED, UM, BY THE SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT EXISTS AND HAS EXISTED, UM, WITHIN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

SO I ALSO, YOU KNOW, WANT TO MAKE THAT A PRIORITY AS WELL, ALWAYS.

UM, BUT I'M EXCITED, YOU KNOW, 20, 21 IS IT'S, IT'S UP TO US, IT'S AN OPEN BOOK.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO, YOU KNOW, COME TO THESE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE OFF AND ON, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO PARTICIPATE FULLY, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, UM, ENGAGE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

UM, WE ARE LEADERS, UM, WE HAVE BEEN APPOINTED, UM, TO REPRESENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY MUSIC FOLKS, AND WE ALL HAVE EXPERIENCED THE STRUGGLES, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR FAMILY, OUR COMMUNITY IS FACING.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S UP TO US TO BE LEADERS IS UP TO US TO STEP TO THE PLATE.

WE SIGNED UP TO DO THIS.

I WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO PARTICIPATE AS FULLY AS THEY CAN, AND TO EVEN STEP UP A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN YOU DID LAST YEAR.

YEAH.

MAYBE JUST DO A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, THAN LAST YEAR.

UM, SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PUT OUR FOOT IN 2021, LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE PUT, UM, THAT'S IT ON THAT LEVEL.

UM, AGAIN, I'M GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO EVERYBODY.

UH, I WILL BE CALLING AND TAKING NOTES AND, AND I'M THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BRINGING, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS YEAR AND TRY TO, YOU KNOW, CONTEXTUALIZE THAT AND FORMALIZE THAT IN SOME WAY.

AND I'M GOING TO BE ASKING TO, AND CHARLOTTE, AND ALSO OREN TO HELP ME OUT WITH THAT, UM, AS WELL.

UM, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ARTICULATE A CLEAR AGENDA SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE HECK IT IS WE DO AND WHY WE'RE DOING IT.

UM, I WANT IT TO BE REALLY CLEAR AND THAT'S THE ONE THING I WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE WEBSITE.

UM, I WOULD LOVE TO GET SOME SPACE, SOME TERRITORY, UM, WHERE WE CAN CLEARLY ARTICULATE WHAT IT IS, WHAT THE HECK IT IS WE DON'T AND, AND, UH, AND MAKE IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY ON THAT.

SO I HOPE WE CAN, WE CAN GET THAT ROLL IN, AND IT'S NOT TOO MUCH RED TAPE INVOLVED WITH WORKING WITH THE CITY BECAUSE, UM, I THINK WE NEED THAT PRETTY, PRETTY, UH, PRETTY URGENTLY, UM, OKAY.

[2C. Discussion and Possible Action about elimination of Parliamentarian Position. ]

TO, UH, WHAT IS THE SIZE OF MY PHONE TO SEE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ABOUT ELIMINATION OF PARLIAMENTARIAN POSITION? ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? I DON'T EVEN, IT WASN'T EVEN A, I FELT LIKE IT'S NOT EVEN A THING.

DO WE EVEN SAY, TAKE ACCOUNT OF THE PARLIAMENTARIAN POSITION? HEY, THIS IS ERIC.

I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT THIS WOULD BE A CHANGE TO YOUR BYLAWS THAT WOULD GO TO COUNCIL, UH, IN ORDER TO ELIMINATE THAT POSITION, IT WAS ADDED IN 2017 AND THE BYLAWS WERE AMENDED AT THAT TIME.

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHAT THE PARLIAMENTARIAN DEATH IS? I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S PLAYED A WELL, YOU GO FIRST OUT, YOU GO OUT ON THE BYLAWS AND, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT ROLE THAT THE COMMISSION, WELL, THAT SHOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT'S REALLY UP ON TOP OF THAT.

UM, THAT WOULD NOT BE ME.

I'LL TELL YOU THAT.

YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT WANTING TO DO IT EITHER, BUT IT DOES.

I MEAN, THE MORE I LOOKED INTO WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO, IF WE HAD A PERSON WHO HAD THE TIME TO INVEST IN READING THE BYLAWS THOROUGHLY AND UNDERSTANDING PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE IN A DEEP WAY, WE GET HUNG UP ON THESE THINGS ALL THE TIME.

AND WE ESSENTIALLY TURNED KIM INTO OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN BY ASKING HER, CAN WE DO

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IT? HOW DO WE DO IT? DO WE DO IT THIS WAY? WHAT ARE THE RULES ABOUT THIS? AND IN THEORY, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO KNOW WHAT THOSE RULES AND PROCEDURES ARE AND TO RUN OUR OWN MEETINGS.

UM, SO IF WE GET RID OF THIS POSITION, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY PUT OUT INTO THE STAFF WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.

OKAY.

WHERE IS SOMEBODY I'M LIKE GOING, GOING ON? UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

UM, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO ELIMINATE IT.

I JUST FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S REQUIRES SOMEBODY TO STEP UP AND BE THAT OTHERWISE WE CAN JUST ACT LIKE IT'S NOT HERE AND JUST CONTINUE ALONG.

UM, I THINK WE JUST GOTTA BE REAL WITH THE SITUATION IS THAT NOBODY HAS STEPPED UP AND, UM, YOU DON'T THINK IT'S IDEAL TO HAVE IT.

I'D RATHER LEAVE IT THERE AND LET IT FALLOW GET RID OF IT.

UM, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY ASKING THE COUNCIL TO SPEND THEIR TIME CHANGING OUR BYLAWS THAT WE CHANGED, NOT THAT LONG AGO FOR SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CLEARLY USE IF WE HAD A VOLUNTEER TO DO IT.

SO I'D RATHER WAIT FOR SOMEONE WHO IS READY TO STEP UP AND DO IT AND JUST LET IT BE POSSIBLE WITH EASE WHEN WE'RE READY.

I, I AGREE WITH THAT.

UM, WELL, THAT, THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER, ANOTHER MATTER.

WE DON'T HAVE A LAWYER ON THE MUSIC COMMISSION ANYMORE AND WE USED TO, UM, AND THAT CAN BE USEFUL FOR A LOT OF THINGS, RIGHT.

WE CAN KEEP US FROM GETTING INTO TROUBLE, UH, AND MAKE MAKING SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LIVE UP TO OUR, UH, THE STANDARDS OF TRANSPARENCY AND, UH, AND FAIRNESS AND INCLUSION THAT, THAT WE ALL, WE ALL ASPIRE TO, UH, HAVING A LAWYER WOULD BE NICE.

I'M JUST SAYING ANYBODY WANT TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL? UH, YEAH.

I MEAN, IT WOULD BE NICE.

I, WE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO WAIT UNTIL SOMEONE ELSE COMES IN.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YEAH.

I MEAN, WE DO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, ELECT ONE TEST WILL BE APPOINTING SOMEBODY TO REPLACE, RIGHT.

SO, UM, MAYBE, UH, SHOCKER OR MYSELF CAN REACH OUT TO HER WITH THAT WITH OREN'S GESTION, BUT THAT IF THERE'S SOMEBODY IN HER DISTRICT THAT COULD, UM, COME TO US WITH A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IT'S FOR SURE.

IT'S ALWAYS A BETTER ON EVERY BOARD TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO ALREADY HAS A NATURAL ILLNESS, BOTH FROM THEIR EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE, RATHER THAN HAVING SOMEONE TRYING TO STRUGGLE TO ADD ANOTHER ELEMENT TO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AND UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, I KNOW FOR SURE EVERY BOARD I'VE BEEN ON THAT HAS A LAWYER, THEY JUST, IT'S SECOND NATURE AND IT'S EASY AND IT'S NOT STRESSFUL AND EVERYONE TRUSTS THEM AND IT FEELS GOOD.

AND I DEFINITELY WOULD NOT BE THAT PERSON TO TRY TO TAKE, UM, I, I LOVE STEPPING UP AND TRYING TO DO THINGS, BUT THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO DO, AND I'M SURE ANYONE ELSE ON THIS COMMISSION IS GOING TO STEP UP AND TRY TO DO SOMETHING THAT JUST DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT TO THEM.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT OR ANYTHING.

WE JUST WE'LL JUST LEAVE THAT, UM, WHERE IT IS.

WHAT'D YOU JUST SAY, FALLOW, JUST LET US, LET IT SIT IN THE CORNER OVER THERE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT, KEEP THAT IN MIND.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

UM, AND CHARLOTTE TO, UM, TALK TO VANESSA AND SAY THAT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE HELPFUL AND IN SOMEONE THAT SHE'S LOOKING TO, TO NOMINATE FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION, UM, I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY A GREAT IDEA SINCE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEONE COMING IN AS NEW.

UM, SO YEAH, IF, IF EVERYONE'S ON, ON THAT, WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT,

[2D. Discussion and Possible Action following update on Downtown Commission. ]

UH, TO THE, WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING UPDATE ON DOWNTOWN COMMISSIONER.

YEAH, THAT WOULD BE ME.

SO, UM, I HAVE A LITTLE OUTLINE WROTE OUT FOR WHAT THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION HAS BEEN UP TO.

UH, I'VE ATTENDED TWO MEETINGS, UM, SINCE A POINTED IN OCTOBER, UH, THE NOVEMBER MEETING WAS CANCELED AND TURNS OUT WAS ONE OF FIVE OUT OF THE 12 MEETINGS THIS PAST YEAR WERE CANCELED, UM, MOSTLY DUE TO COVID.

UM, BUT IT DID NOT LOOK LIKE THEY ADDED EXTRA MEETINGS TO THEIR SCHEDULE.

UM, SO, UM, AS OF LAST MEETING, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF HITS, UM, HISTORIC, UH, UPDATES AND,

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UM, DIFFERENT GUIDELINES THAT, UM, FOR MAINTAINING A HISTORIC BUILDING.

UM, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE A GOOD AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THEY DO IS MAKING THINGS ARE UP TO CODE, UM, PER HISTORIC SITES.

UM, APD IS MOVING THEIR OFFICE, UH, IN, ON THE BOOKS FOR A LITTLE BIT.

NOW IT DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF ANSWERS, BUT, UH, THE UPDATE WE GOT WAS THAT IT IS GOING TO BE A TWO-STEP PROCESS, THE FIRST STEP ESTABLISHING THE NEEDS OF A NEW SITES, FINDING THAT SITE AND THEN RELOCATING STAFF, UM, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 500 FULL TIME POSITIONS AT THE DOWNTOWN, UM, LOCATION CURRENTLY NOW BECAUSE OF COVID, UH, SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE, ARE, UH, GOING TO BE ONLINE OR HAVE BEEN ONLINE AND THAT THEY ARE WE'RE LOOKING INTO WHICH POSITIONS WILL BE MAINTAINED ONLINE POST PANDEMIC.

WHENEVER THAT MAY BE, UM, STEP TWO OF THAT MOVE WILL BE THE, UH, REDEVELOPMENT REUSE OF THE CURRENT SITE, WHICH THERE WAS NO INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.

UM, THE RAINEY STREET, UH, THE ADJACENT STREET, UH, ON THE SOUTH SIDE IS RIVER STREET.

THERE IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING ON THAT BLOCK THAT WILL COVER THE ALLEYWAY, UM, WHICH GIVES YOU ACCESS TO ALL THE BARS ON THE, THAT WOULD BE THE EAST SIDE OF RAINEY.

UM, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE PAVING IT AND WIDENING THAT ALLEYWAY, UH, FOR THE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING THAT WILL SIT ON TOP OF THE ALLEY.

UM, THERE WAS SUPPORT A VOTE FOR SUPPORT IN FAVOR OF THAT.

UM, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE BURYING A BUNCH OF UTILITY LINES, UM, AND HOPES TO CREATE THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE REST OF THE ALLEYWAY.

WE'RE QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THAT ALLEY.

UM, AS I, UH, PLAY IT EVERY NIGHT, ADD ON RAINEY STREET OR EVERY WEEK ON RAINEY STREET.

UM, AND IT'S JUST ONE GIANT MUD PIT PAVED.

UM, IT'S KIND OF A PAIN TO GET TO AND FROM IF YOU'RE USING IT AND DURING SOUTH BY IT CAN JUST BE A PARKING LOT BECAUSE PEOPLE PARK WHEREVER THEY WANT.

I'M SO HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL MAKE MUSICIANS' LIVES.

AND THE STAFF DOWN THERE A LITTLE EASIER, ONE SECOND GETS ALL DONE.

UM, LET'S SEE, OBVIOUSLY HOMELESS, UH, HOMELESSNESS, UM, DOWNTOWN IS A FACTOR FOR SAFETY.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING IN FEET, UH, IN THE NEXT MEETING IN JANUARY.

UM, AND THEN TOBAR, WE DID HAVE AN UPDATE OF THE STATE OF DOWNTOWN GIVEN, GIVEN BY THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE AND JUST IN GENERAL, EVERYTHING IS DOWN FROM CRIME TO, UH, FOOT TRAFFIC TO SALES.

UM, SO IT, THERE IS A RECOVERY PLAN, UM, BUT NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHEN WE CAN EVEN GET STARTED ON RECOVERY, UM, BECAUSE WE NEED PLACES OPEN FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

SO, UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION TO THE COMMISSION IS, IS WHAT DO WE WANT THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, UH, TO ACT ON IN REGARDS TO MUSIC AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON? I GAVE THEM A FAIRLY DETAILED UPDATE ON WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.

UM, AND THEN ERICA ALSO HAD A NICE PRESENTATION, UM, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE GRANT PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON SINCE THE PANDEMIC.

SO, MAN, THAT'S A, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S KIND OF SPEECHLESS ON THAT ONE.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY, UH, ANY IDEAS, NO THOUGHTS TO COME INTO MY MIND RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THAT TO SEEMS LIKE DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, IF I COULD SPEAK JUST PERSONALLY OFF THIS, JUST REAL, JUST REAL TALK, YOU KNOW, I WAS DOWNTOWN AND JUST REAL SAD, MAN.

THAT WAS THE, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST NOT, IT'S NOT WHAT IT WAS OR WHAT IT IS OR WHATEVER.

UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT I CAN RECOMMEND RIGHT NOW AS I'M NOT A VENUE OR DOWN THERE, AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE A READ ON IT, BUT I WAS THERE LAST WEEK, I GUESS IT JUST FELT, I FELT SAD.

IT WAS SAD.

UH, ONE QUESTION I WOULD ADD FOR THEM IS THAT, IS THERE A NEW NORMAL THAT CAN REESTABLISH LIVE MUSIC IS VIABLE DOWNTOWN AND ON TOP OF THAT, CAN A LOOK AND BE

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MORE EQUITABLE? UH, THE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME FOR THE LARGER CORPORATIONS.

THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THIS IS TRUE EXACTLY IN AUSTIN, BUT THERE ARE GOING TO BE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF OFFICE SPACE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO RUSH BACK INTO BECAUSE COMPANIES HAVE FOUND THAT MAINTAIN THOSE LARGE OFFICE SPACES DOWNTOWN AREN'T DARN REQUIRED FOR CERTAIN BUSINESSES, THE WAY THEY THOUGHT THEY WORK.

IS THERE A WAY TO TAKE THIS NEW FOUND SPACE AND REINVISION A NEW NORMAL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL ENVISIONING NOW IS WHAT DO WE LEARN DURING THE PANDEMIC AND WHAT IS POST PANDEMIC LIFE LOOK LIKE FOR OURSELVES INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY? AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY AND UNPRECEDENTED OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFORM DOWNTOWN AND MAINE, AS WELL AS MAINTAIN THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE INEVITABLY GOING TO LOSE.

IT'S DEFINITELY NOT.

IT'S DEFINITELY AN FOR SURE, THERE'S A VACUUM AND THERE'S DEFINITELY SPACE.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE IS GOING TO ARISE AS TO, UH, WHAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAS TO SAY ABOUT, UH, THE CULTURAL DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY COULD BE A PART OF.

UM, ARE THEY GOING TO BE ON, ON BOARD OR ARE THEY JUST GOING TO SAY, SHOW ME WHERE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS? WELL, SO MANY SECTORS IN THE ECONOMY, INCLUDING THEORETICALLY FOR PROFIT ENTERPRISES ARE ASKING FOR A LOT OF GOVERNMENT SUPPORT NOW AND THROUGH THIS RECOVERY AND SUPPORT FOR AN EQUITABLE AND VIBRANT SPY MUSIC SCENE DOWNTOWN SEEMS LIKE A FAIR COMPROMISE FOR CIVICS GOVERNMENT SUPPORT IN THAT RECOVERY.

BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ENTIRELY A PRIVATE DECISION WHEN THE GOVERNMENT IS PARTICIPATING IN THAT RECOVERY.

IT SEEMS TO ME, I'M NOT QUITE, NOT QUITE SURE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE.

WHAT ARE WE SAYING? IS THAT A BUSINESS, LIKE HE'S SAYING, WHAT IS PR, WHAT DOES THE PRIVATE WORLD WANT TO DO? WHAT IS PRIVATE EQUITY WANT TO DO WITH THESE SPACES? AND I'M SAYING PRIVATE EQUITY, BIG BUSINESS, BIG CORPORATIONS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR MAJOR GOVERNMENT SUPPORT THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC, WHETHER IT'S AIRLINES OR A SMALL BUSINESS, EVERYTHING FROM BIG TO SMALL.

AND THERE'S A TRADE-OFF FOR THAT.

AND NOW THEY'RE IN THE, WE, THERE IS LEVERAGE TO SAY, WHAT DO YOU WANT THAT HELP? YOU HAVE TO HELP US? AND ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE CITY IS AN EQUITABLE AND VIBRANT DOWNTOWN LA MUSIC SCENE.

IT'S THE BRAND IS BUILT ON IT.

THE, UH, THE IDENTITY OF THE CITY IS BUILT ON IT.

IS IT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE IN MY MIND, A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY? AND SO TO USE THAT LEVERAGE HELP FOR RECOVERY COMES WITH CONTRIBUTING TO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A DOWNTOWN LIVE MUSIC SCENE AT THE END OF ALL OF THIS IS PART OF THE NEW NORMAL, OH, YOU ARE YOU EXCUSE ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ONE WE'RE COMING OUT OF IT, ARE YOU SAYING THAT, ARE YOU SAYING, OKAY, SO YOU'RE SAYING AT THE END THAT THERE, THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO, TO GO INTO, WELL, IF WE HAVE THE SCHEME OF TANGO, LIKE A VERY MICRO EXAMPLE OF ASKING THE CITY FOR HELP, BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED HELP RIGHT NOW, AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE GIANT AIRLINES DOING THE SAME THING.

SO, UM, AND YOU KNOW, OUR ANSWER TO ESCAPE, YOU KNOW, COMPROMISE WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS, WORK WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.

WE WANT TO HELP YOU DO THE WORK YOU DO.

AND IT'S THE SAME THING WITH ANY, ANY OF THESE LARGER, UH, UH, FOR-PROFIT ENTERPRISES WHO CONTROL THESE DOWN.

THERE'S THIS NEW, THIS SPACE THAT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE.

THEY'RE TO LOOK FOR.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN BUSINESSES MOVE HERE, THEY ASK FOR CONCESSIONS OR ASK FOR CERTAIN THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE THE CITY HAS LEVERAGED IN A WAY THAT'S DIFFERENT HALLWAYS HAVE LEVERAGED BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE HELPING PEOPLE RECOVER FROM THIS, AND IT IS HELPING PEOPLE RECOVER FROM IT AND SURVIVE THROUGH IT.

SO ARE YOU SPECIFIC SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING SPECIFIC CORPORATIONS, OR YOU'RE SAYING LIKE A GENERAL RECOMMENDATION, W W WHAT IS GETTING MORE SPECIFIC IS TRYING TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS? WHAT, UH, WHAT DO WE WANT THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION TO DO? AND I'M CURIOUS WHAT THEY ARE WILLING TO DO TO HELP PRESERVE AND FOSTER A NEW NORMAL, UH, OF A MUSIC DOWN TO LIVE MUSIC DOWNTOWN SCENE.

THAT WAS JUST, THAT WAS SLOWLY JUST APPEAR.

AND IT CERTAINLY WASN'T BECOMING

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MORE EQUITABLE.

AND SO THAT BANDS THE QUESTION I WOULD BRING TO THAT COMMUNITY, THAT THAT'S A ROOM FILLED WITH VERY POWERFUL PEOPLE WITH LOTS OF MONEY AND, UM, PROBABLY CONTROL A LOT OF THESE SPACES I WOULD THINK, OR ARE CONNECTED TO THAT ECOSYSTEM.

SO I THINK AS TOGETHER WE CAN, REINVISION WHAT, WHAT DO WE WANT AUSTIN TO LOOK LIKE? AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, GO TO THEM AND HELP.

WHAT IS THEIR VISION? AND IS IT EQUITABLE AND JUST TO HAVE LIVE MUSIC AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS? AND I'LL ASK DOUG THAT WE HAD BEEN WORKING FOR A BIT OF TIME ON, UH, CREATING A CORRIDOR THAT WILL TIE INTO THE MEXICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL CENTER, RAINY STREET, THE CONVENTION CENTER, RED RIVER SIXTH STREET, UP TO THE NEW ERWIN CENTER TO THE STADIUM TO BASS CONCERT HALL.

SO THIS WOULD BE A NEW, A NEW, UM, BRAND FOR THE CITY THAT TIES IN ALL THOSE CITY BLOCKS, BASICALLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NEW, UM, DOWNTOWN PUZZLE THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER IS PART OF AN WATERLOO GREENWAY'S PART OF.

SO NOW WE'RE TALKING, EXPANDING MUSIC USING TWO, UH, COMMUNITIES, ONE HIGHER ACADEMIA.

SO THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS CAMPUS WITH ITS 100,000 CAPACITY THAT THERE'S 50,000 STUDENTS, 50,000 STAFF.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF NEW CONSUMERS THAT ENGAGEMENT ON THE OTHER END, UH, THE 600,000 MEXICAN AMERICANS AND CENTRAL TAXES TIED TO THE MEXICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL CENTER AND PALM SCHOOL.

SO THOSE TWO BECOME PART OF THE SAME ENTITY AND THEY HAVEN'T BEFORE.

UH, WHAT SHAKA HAS BEEN REITERATING HERE IS AS FAR AS BIAS AND RACISM, INEQUITIES, THAT COULD EVEN EXASPERATE THE SELF.

ONCE YOU BRING IT INTO THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN, THE SUPER CORPORATION THAT IT IS, RIGHT, AND WATERLOO, C3 PRESENTS AND SO FORTH, THE CONVENTION CENTER, WHICH HAS NOT CONVENTIONS, DON'T RUN THE FLAG OF EQUITY AND CIVIL RIGHTS NECESSARILY HISTORICALLY.

AND THEN DOWN TO THE MEXICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL CENTER AND RANDY STREET AND RANDY STREET BEING THE EMBODIMENT, UH, MOVING OUT, UH, WHAT, WHAT AUSTIN WANTS WAS.

SO ALL THESE FACTORS ARE GOING TO PLAY INTO THE NEXT 20 YEARS WHEN THE CONVENTION CENTER GOES UP, THE NEW 12,000 SEAT ARENA AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS WATERLOO GREENWAY IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN RED RIVER BECOMING A BOULEVARD, A WHOLE NEW WORLD.

AND SO I THINK THAT THE FASTER, AGAIN, THAT WE JUMP ON THIS EXACT EXACTLY THROUGH WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, THEN WE COULD USE THAT, UH, IT BECOMES MORE THAN ARTIFICIAL WHAT GRAHAM WAS SPEAKING TO ABOUT THE EQUITY COMPONENT.

UM, AND THEN USING VOICES LIKE A SHOCKER TO REMIND THESE INSTITUTIONS, BOTH OF THEM, THAT THIS WAS A BLACK COMMUNITY ONCE OUR MUSIC IS, AND THIS IS BOTH TO THE UNIVERSITY, INTO THE LATINO COMMUNITIES, RIGHT? SO, SO I DO THINK YOUR POSITION IS VERY CRITICAL AND WHAT YOU CAN COMMUNICATE TO THAT GROUP, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 12,000 HOTEL ROOMS, 12,000 HOTEL ROOMS, AND THOSE FOLKS NEED TO BE ENTERTAINED AND ALL THOSE CONVENTIONS NEED ENTERTAINMENT TO SELL.

SO, UH, WE'RE IN A POSITION OF ADVANTAGE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAVE TO BE, I THINK, PRETTY SMART.

AND IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY EDI COMPONENT, IT WILL HAVE TO BE FOR.

SO YOU WERE LOOKING FOR CONCRETE, I SUPPORT ALL OF THAT.

UH, UH, YOU WERE LOOKING FOR CONCRETE EXAMPLES.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL THERE.

UH, BUT I WAS IN CHICAGO A WHILE BACK FOR A GIG AND RIGHT ON MICHIGAN AVENUE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, PART OF TOURIST STUFF.

AND THE SYMPHONY HALL IS RIGHT THERE.

IT'S A BUILDING FILLED WITH MUSIC, REHEARSAL ROOMS AND, UM, VARIOUS KINDS OF MUSIC.

UH NON-PROFITS AND FOR-PROFITS RIGHT THERE IN THE HEART OF IT.

SO, UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THESE KINDS OF RESOURCES DOWNTOWN WHERE, UH, YOU CAN REHEARSE AND THEN LOG YOUR GEAR DOWN AN ELEVATOR INSTEAD OF TO THE VENUE INSTEAD OF INTO YOUR CAR AND THEN DOWNTOWN, AND TRY TO FIND PARKING AFTER YOU'VE LOADED INTO THE GIG AFTER YOU DOUBLE PARK, THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MILLION WAYS WE CAN USE THOSE, BUT I MEAN, FOR TIME AS SPACE RIGHT NOW, WITH THIS SCHEME OF TANGO, IS THERE A ROOM, A SHORT-TERM THING, IS THERE A ROOM THAT THEY CAN USE FOR THEIR EVENTS? THOSE, THOSE OFFICE BUILDINGS HAVE HIGH CEILINGS AND A PRETTY GOOD SOUND PROTECTION BETWEEN FLOORS, THE ANYWAY, SHORT TERM, LONGTERM, MEDIUM TERM, I'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEW NORMAL MOVING FORWARD AS FAR AS THE DOWNTOWN

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STUDENT IS CONCERNED, BUT I THINK THEY PLAY A ROLE ON ALL OF IT.

OKAY.

THESE, UH, I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL GOOD IDEAS.

UH, WHAT, UM, WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IS HOW TO FASTEN SOME, SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE CAN GO TO THEM WITH AND BEGIN TO, YOU KNOW, UM, CREATE A COHESIVE CONCEPT OF WHAT WE CAN DO.

I MEAN, I THINK THESE ARE ALL, THESE ARE ALL GREAT IDEAS, BUT, UM, THINGS THAT ARE SPECIFIC IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.

CAUSE I MEAN, HE IS THERE, HE IS THE VOICE OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION RIGHT NOW.

UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ON THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, BUT OBVIOUSLY, UM, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE ARE NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THEIR AGENDA YET, OR, YOU KNOW, OR A LITTLE BIT OFF, MAYBE THEIR FOCUS RIGHT NOW.

AND IN ORDER FOR THEM TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND MOVE ON THAT, UM, WE HAVE TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO SEE DOWNTOWN.

SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US TO THINK ABOUT, MAYBE COME UP WITH SOME SPECIFIC IDEAS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT, IT'S GREAT TO, YOU KNOW, YEAH, THERE'S ALL THIS SPACE GOING ON, BUT YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING HAS A COST OBVIOUSLY.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT COSTS MONEY TO CUT THE LIGHTS ON A CUSTOMER MONEY TO HAVE A HEAT, WHATEVER.

UM, SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE GREAT IDEAS, BUT IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME SPECIFIC THINGS MOVING FORWARD, UM, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I LOVE ALL THESE IDEAS.

SO YEAH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'LL BE REVIEWING THE TAPE, THE COMING TOGETHER WITH A LITTLE MORE CONCRETE, UM, DELIVERABLE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MY ROLE IS GOING TO BE TO STRENGTHEN THE BOTH COMMISSIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, INVITING MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION TO SPEAK AT THEIR MEETINGS AND VICE VERSA.

SO, UM, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE WORK OVERALL THOUGH, DOUG, IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, THEY'VE BEEN HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE, UH, GETTING TOGETHER.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I HOPE YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE CONSISTENT SO WE CAN SEE SOME THINGS MANIFESTED IN THAT, UH, APPRECIATE YOU BEING A PART OF THAT.

MY PLEASURE.

THANK YOU.

UM,

[2E. Discussion and Possible Action on the review of AIPP funding, and exploring opportunities for music. ]

TWO E DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REVIEW OF AIPP FUNDING AND EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MUSIC.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I ADDED TO THE AGENDA, UM, BECAUSE A FEW PEOPLE IN THE MUSIC COMMUNITY REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT, UM, THE, UM, ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, FUNDING WHERE, UM, THERE'S FUNDING AND SYNOVIA.

SOMEBODY ELSE CAN EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHERE THIS MONEY COMES FROM.

BUT, UM, THERE ARE, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR INSTALLATIONS AT LIKE AIR AT THE AIRPORT OR DIFFERENT PUBLIC SPACES.

AND SOME OF THESE BUDGETS GO AS HIGH AS HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

UM, UM, BUT THEY CAN BE, YOU KNOW, 30, 40, 50,000 ON THE LOWER END OR EVEN 10, 10 TO 20,000.

BUT, UM, THESE, THESE PROJECTS GENERALLY LEAVE OUT MUSIC, UM, UM, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, DON'T INSTALLATION.

SO WHAT WAS ASKED TO ME IS TO, IS TO BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION AND START TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MUSIC WITHIN THESE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, PROJECTS? IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN CONNECT THIS AND, AND BRING MUSICIANS IN? I PERSONALLY, UH, I WAS PART OF A PROGRAM CALLED TEMPO 2D.

UM, I PAINTED A MURAL THAT'S ON A ROSEWOOD APP IN EAST AUSTIN.

AND THE PROCESS THAT I WENT THROUGH WAS, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO SUBMIT WORK AND I HAD TO SUBMIT MYSELF AS AN ARTIST WITH RESUME, AND THEN I WAS SELECTED BY A PANEL.

UM, AND THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR, FROM YOUR, UH, FROM YOUR A-LIST VISUAL ARTISTS OR WHATEVER, BUT, UM, THE CALL IS, IS A GENERAL CALL.

AND THEN THE PANEL DECIDES FROM WHOEVER'S IN THAT POOL, BUT THERE'S NO MUSICIANS, THERE'S NO MUSIC INVOLVED IN IT.

SO AGAIN, THE QUESTION WAS RAISED TO ME IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IS IT POSSIBLE, OR CAN, CAN THAT BE WHY ISN'T MUSIC, UH, WHY ISN'T THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MUSIC THERE OR CAN, AND INSTALLATION INVOLVE, UM, MUSIC IN SOME WAY AS PART OF THE CONTINUING INSTALLATION OR PERFORM WHATEVER OF THE, OF THE THING.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING I WANTED TO BRING TO THE GROUP POSSIBLY HAVE, UH, SYNOVIA OR SOMEBODY ELSE FROM THE, UM, PDD TALK ABOUT THAT, OR FILL US IN, OR JUST ALSO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT POSSIBLY BRINGING MUSIC INTO THAT.

SO, YEAH, I CAN GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW.

SO THE ART IN PLACES, ART IN PUBLIC PLACES ORDINANCE WAS IMPROVED BACK IN THE EIGHTIES.

IT STARTED OUT AS 1% AND THEN IT WAS AMENDED OR 2%.

TYPICALLY THESE ARE FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, ROADS,

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STREETS, SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA.

AND 2% OF THE PROJECTS ARE SET ASIDE FOR ART BECAUSE IT'S AN ASSET.

IT'S A PHYSICAL ASSET.

TYPICALLY THE BOND PERIOD IS ABOUT 20 YEARS AND THE ART INSTALLATION HAS TO RUN ABOUT 20 YEARS.

AND SO THAT IS JUST A VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

I'LL CALL, WE'LL GO OUT.

WE WORK WITH VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.

SO IF IT'S A STREET INSTALLATION, THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM HAS, UH, UM, AIPP PROJECTS.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S AN ASSET.

IT'S SOMETHING TANGIBLE THAT WE COULD TOUCH.

IT HAS A 20 YEAR LIFESPAN TYPICALLY FOR ART.

NOW, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST WITH OUR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, SUCH AS THE TRAMMELL CROW, THEY DON'T, UH, THEY GAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TOWARDS MUSIC, UH, WITHIN, IN THE SEAHOLM DISTRICT.

SO WHEN WE HAD WHAT WE CALL STREET PERFORMANCES, NOT BY SKIING, IT WAS FUNDED FROM CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE DEVELOPER.

SO THAT IS ANOTHER AVENUE THAT COULD BE EXPLORED.

BUT FOR THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES IS SPECIFICALLY TIED TO BONDS, BONDS THAT ARE ISSUED, UM, UH, OR THE CITY OR AN ASSET.

AND SO THAT IS WHY, UH, IT'S TYPICALLY AN ARTIST, NOT A MUSIC BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE A PHYSICAL ASSET, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT THE CONCEPT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE USED, AS I SAID, THROUGHOUT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WHERE JUMBO CURL IN THE PAST, UH, DONATED FUNDS FOR A MUSIC PROGRAM.

AND SO COULD WE EXPLORE, UM, DIFFERENT FUNDING MECHANISMS WE COULD, UM, NOT THAT WE HAVE IT, THERE'S NO LANGUAGE, UM, WITHIN WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE EIGHTIES THAT SAYS THAT MUSIC CAN NOT BE A PART OF IT.

I WILL, I DID NOT BRING THE ORDINANCE TONIGHT, BUT I CAN GO BACK, BUT I JUST, BECAUSE I'VE RECENTLY HAD A CONVERSATION, IT'S ABOUT AN ASSET, SO SOMETHING TANGIBLE, RIGHT.

I CAN GO BACK AND BRING THAT BACK NEXT MONTH AND TALK TO OUR ATTORNEYS TOO ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I'M JUST, I'M CURIOUS IF, UM, IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF WAY WHERE MUSIC CAN BE A PART OF MAYBE SOME ASPECT OF IT, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE INSTALLATION, AND THEN IF MUSIC CAN BE WORKED IN INTO THAT SOME TYPE OF WAY, I THAT'S WHAT I'M LIKE TRYING TO SEE IF THERE COULD BE A REQUIREMENT, A REQUIREMENT OR SOME ASPECT OF IT HAS TO INVOLVE MUSIC.

UM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE LANGUAGE.

UM, THAT STRICTLY SAYS IT HAS ISRAEL.

UM, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT IT, LIKE SAYING THAT IT HAS TO APPEAL TO THE SENSES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS WHAT I REMEMBER FROM THE LANGUAGE.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS MUSIC CANNOT BE A PART OF IT.

AND SO WHAT I WANT TO EXPLORE WITH THAT IS, UM, IF WE CAN SOMEHOW ADD THAT IN, OR, OR ENCOURAGE THAT TYPE OF COLLABORATION PARTNERSHIP WITH THE VISUAL, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC AS FAR AS THIS, AND I HAVEN'T READ IT MYSELF, THIS, THIS IS PEOPLE COMING TO ME AND TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT, THERE IS NO SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT SAYS THAT MUSIC CANNOT BE A PART OF IT.

AND THERE'S NO SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT SAYS IT HAS TO BE STRICTLY VISUAL.

OKAY.

WELL, I WILL DEFINITELY GET WITH OUR AIPP ADMINISTRATOR TOMORROW AND HAVE SOME INFORMATION AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

IT LOOKED LIKE ERICA, MIGHT'VE ADDED A THOUGHT ON THAT.

HEY, EVERYBODY, ERICA SHAMBLING MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION.

UH, I HAD A PREVIOUS LIFE WORKING FOR KIND OF A MUNICIPAL PUBLIC ARTS PROGRAM.

AND AS FAR AS SOUND IS CONCERNED, A LOT OF TIMES THERE ARE SAFETY CONCERNS AROUND, CAUSE IT HAS TO BE FREE STANDING BY ITSELF AND NOT INTERFERE WITH ANY TYPES OF ADA REQUIREMENTS AND CERTAIN ISSUES LIKE THAT.

BUT OUR, AS A, SO NOVIA JUST SAID, OUR AIPP ADMINISTRATOR, SUE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SHE CAN KIND OF PREPARE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S PAST PRESENTATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED JUST SO YOU HAVE SOME GENERAL INFORMATION AND IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, UM, WE COULD TALK TO HER ABOUT IT, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF A POTENTIAL COLLABORATION WITH ARTISTS AND MUSICIANS THAT PRODUCES AN ASSET THAT IS SAFE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO BRING UP TO HER, UM, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH THE CULTURAL FUNDING REVIEW PROCESS AND IN THE HOT FUNDS FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND THE TEMPO PROGRAM SHAKA WITH WAS FUNDED FROM HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ADD TO THE AGENDA FOR, FOR THE NEXT MEETING, FOR SURE.

UM,

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I HAD SOMEBODY SENDING SENT ME SOMETHING THAT I GUESS LISTENING, BUT I DON'T, I THINK WE WILL WE'LL WE'LL CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, BUT WE HAVE OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT WE STILL NEED TO GET TO.

UM, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS? I THINK, I THINK IT'S A POTENTIAL SOURCE OF POTENTIAL, SOMETHING FOR, FOR A MUSIC COMMUNITY, UM, THAT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD EXPLORE FOR SURE.

AND I WAS, I WAS GLAD THAT THEY BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS SOME, SOME ROOM THERE.

I DUNNO, W IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE TWO SIMPLE WAYS FOR MUSIC TO BE INVOLVED.

ONE IS THROUGH FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES FOR VISUAL ART AND MAKING A SOUND INSTALLATION, WHICH WE ALL HAVE THE STEVE PARKER'S IN OUR HARVEST IN TOWN DOING THAT KIND OF WORK THERE THERE'S A DJ SPOOKY IS OF, UM, ANOTHER PERSON THAT DOES MUSIC AND THEN THE SOUND INSTALLATION KIND OF STUFF.

UM, SO THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE A DOORWAY AND THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM LIVE PERFORMANCE, BUT INVOLVES MUSIC.

THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I DO A LOT WITH, UH, MUSEUMS IS WHEN AN ART INSTALLATION HA UH, OPENS TO DO SOME KIND OF MUSIC, A COMMISSION OF A, A MUSIC RESPONSE TO IT, SOME KIND OF MUSIC PERFORMANCE THAT IS CREATED, UH, AND INSPIRED BY THAT PIECE OF ART.

AND SO I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, UH, WHEN SOMEONE GETS ON VEILED, THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, UH, SOME COMMISSIONS RESPONDING SPECIFICALLY TO THAT PIECE OF ART.

YEAH.

I THINK THOSE ARE DEFINITELY TWO POTENTIALS.

AND I THINK PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, WHO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER, WE CALL IT SOME MORE, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE DEFINITELY TWO OBVIOUS ONES.

AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR SHARING THOSE.

I THINK, LET ME NOT SAY OBVIOUS $90 PLAY YOU THE GENIUS GROUND, BUT, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THOSE ARE TWO VERY CLEAR ONES, UM, THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT, BUT LET'S, UH, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S THINK MORE ABOUT THAT.

LET'S ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, COME TO THE TABLE WITH SOME IDEAS, HOPEFULLY IN FEBRUARY.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THOSE PEOPLE THAT BROUGHT THAT TO MY ATTENTION.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT, A GREAT POSSIBILITY FOR ART, MUSIC, COLLABORATION, AND SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME COOL THINGS TO HAPPEN AND, AND ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR MUSICIANS AS WELL.

SO, YEAH, IT IS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY COMING UP WITH THE ART, UM, ART ON THE CORRIDOR.

I THINK I'M CALLING, UH, THREATENING ART ON A QUARTER PROGRAM.

THAT'S TIED TO THE MOBILITY BOND.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE PUBLIC ART PROJECTS ON EVERY, EVERY CORRIDOR THAT'S TOUCHED BY THAT.

SO BURNETT ROAD, NORTH LAMAR AIRPORT BOULEVARD, UH, THAT'S A NORTH AUSTIN AND THERE'S OTHERS.

SO, UM, YEAH, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

NICE.

YEAH, I DIDN'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THAT.

MAYBE, MAYBE DO YOU, MAYBE WE COULD PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

MAYBE WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT IN FEBRUARY.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

YES.

SO IF, UM, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT, WE CAN HAVE, UM, MIKE TREMBLE COM IF HE'S AVAILABLE, BUT ALSO I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO IS LISTENING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY SIGN UP FOR OUR CULTURAL ARTS NEWSLETTER, BECAUSE, UM, WE INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION WHEN IT GOES OUT BY WEEK TWO ON THE QUARTER PROGRAM AND ALL THE ART OPPORTUNITIES.

SO BASICALLY SHE'S SAYING SHAKA, DIDN'T READ THE NEWSLETTER.

YEAH.

AYE.

OKAY, COOL.

[3A. Discussion and Possible Action on Music Commission appointee to the Austin Economic Development Corporation (AEDC). ]

LET'S GO TO THE OLD BUSINESS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSIC COMMISSION, APPOINTEE FOR THE AUTHOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

UM, OREN, DID YOU WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS? UH, YES.

UH, YES, I DO.

UM, SO THE WORKING GROUP MET, UM, ALL FIVE OF US WERE PRESENT AT THE MEETING.

WE REVIEWED THE, UM, RESUMES AND CREDENTIALS AND APPLICATIONS OF SIX DIFFERENT CANDIDATES FOR THE BOARD MEMBER POSITION, UH, THAT WE WILL BE, UH, THAT, THAT WE'LL BE APPOINTING, UH, AT THE MEETING.

UH, THERE WAS WIDESPREAD AGREEMENT THAT THERE WERE TWO CANDIDATES WHO WE FELT WOULD BE, UH, CAPABLE AND WORTHY OF THE ROLE, AND RATHER THAN DECIDE, WE WANTED TO BRING THAT TO THE ENTIRE MUSIC COMMISSION TO VOTE.

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UM, I HAVE PROVIDED ALL OF YOU WITH, UH, THEIR STATEMENTS.

WE ASK, WE ASK THOSE TWO FOR FOLLOW ON STATEMENTS, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WANT TO ASK, HAS THERE ANYBODY, IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN, IN PARTICULAR, SOMEONE NAMED, UH, FRANCISCO MORENO WHO, UH, WROTE ME IN, UH, UH, WHO WROTE ME AND HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WAY WE CONDUCTED THE, SO BEFORE WE MOVE AHEAD, I'D LIKE TO HEAR, IS HE HERE? NO, HE'S, HE'S, UH, HE'S NOT ON THE LINE.

WE DID SEND HIM THE DIAL IN INFORMATION, UH, WITH THE EMAIL ADDRESS YOU PROVIDED, BUT HE DID NOT DIAL IN.

OKAY, WELL, I'LL, I'LL S I'LL S I'LL SUMMARIZE WHAT HE SAID BEFORE, BEFORE WE MOVE, BEFORE WE MOVE ALONG TO THE PROCESS AND THE VOTE.

UH, SO HE EMAILED ME, HE SAID, HEY, I'D FOUND OUT THAT YOU HAD BEEN, UM, THE ONE WHO WAS, UH, CHAIRING THE WORKING GROUP.

AND, UM, THAT IT WAS, UM, IT WAS NOT TRANSPARENT AND IT LEFT OUT, UM, LATINO MUSICIANS AND HE WANTS TO KNOW YET HE HAD A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WAY WE HAD, WE UNDERTOOK OUR, OUR PROCESS.

UM, SO I'VE, I RESPONDED, I RESPONDED TO HIM AND EXPLAINED THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS IN THE OPEN MEETING THAT ALL MUSIC COMMISSIONERS WERE ASKED TO, UM, TO REFER PEOPLE TO ME EVERY, EVERY SINGLE, EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO DID.

AND I WANT TO THANK EVERY, EVERYBODY WHO DID THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ALL OF YOUR PEOPLE WERE, UH, UH, THE PEOPLE WERE DISCUSSED AND, AND, AND CONSIDERED.

SO I, I EXPLAINED, UH, I EXPLAINED THAT THAT TO HIM, SHE ALSO, HE, UH, AND, AND HE WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE THE CON CON WITH THE, OF INTEREST RULES THAT WE ALL MUST ABIDE BY THAT WE, THE TRAINING THAT WE WENT THROUGH WHEN WE JOINED THE MUSIC COMMISSION, UH, I EXPLAINED, UH, I EXPLAINED THAT TO HIM.

AND THEN I ASKED HIM TO GIVE ME A CALL TO FIND OUT WHAT WE COULD DO BETTER.

HE PARTICULARLY POINTED OUT THAT THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE HAD A REALLY GOOD PROCESS AND GOOD CRITERIA FOR WHAT THEY WANTED, AND I LOOKED AT THEIR SITE AND YEAH, THEY DID DO IT BETTER THAN US.

UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW INCLUSIVE IT WAS BECAUSE THEIR REQUIREMENTS REQUIRED THAT SOMEBODY ACTUALLY BE A MEMBER OF THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE TO BE ON, TO GET THAT SEAT.

UM, I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THE WAY IT WAS COMMUNICATED WAS REALLY GOOD.

AND THAT'S WHY I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, THE WEBSITE.

SO I DO WANT EVERYONE TO BE AWARE THAT, UM, THIS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR OPENNESS AND OUR TRANSPARENCY, AS WELL AS OUR COMMITMENT TO EQUITY, UH, WAS QUESTIONED.

AND I ANSWERED THAT TO THE BEST, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, UM, BEFORE WE MOVED FORWARD, I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT IF ANYONE ELSE FEELS THAT, YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO ARE, WHO ARE ON THE WORKING GROUP, FEEL THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS IN A WAY THAT WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE BEEN TRANSPARENT AND THAT WE HAVE BEEN, UH, UH, AND, AND THAT WE HAVE BEEN, UH, INCLUSIVE AND WE HAVE SOUGHT DIVERSITY.

SO I JUST LIKE TO OPEN THAT UP, TO GET OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINIONS.

AND I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT SHAKA WAS SAYING AND HAVING A BIGGER PRESENCE AND BEING MORE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY, THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, THERE'S NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, AN INFORMATION SOURCE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE CAN ACCESS CONSISTENTLY.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ELIMINATE SOME OF THAT, UM, LACK OF INFORMATION, UM, UH, AS SOMEBODY THAT WAS ON, ON THE GROUP, UM, THIS INDIVIDUAL KIND OF RAISED, UH, SOME CONCERNS ABOUT MY NOMINATION, UM, BECAUSE I WORK WITH, UM, THE PERSON THAT I NOMINATED.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I TOOK THAT, UM, FEEDBACK, AND BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD NOT VOTE ON IT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT MY, MY NOMINATING, THIS INDIVIDUAL WAS STRICTLY ONE, UM, FROM MY BELIEF THAT HE IS A TOP RATE EXCELLENT CANDIDATE, UM, THAT WOULD REALLY REPRESENT MUSIC AS SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN A FULL-TIME MUSICIAN, AND NOW IS HELPING YOUNG PEOPLE, UH, BECOME, YOU KNOW, FIND A CAREER IN CREATIVE FIELDS, INCLUDING MUSIC.

UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR MAJOR GOALS WAS, UM, DIVERSITY EQUITY, UM, SOMEBODY WITH EXPERIENCE

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IN MUSIC, UM, THE A, AND HAD RELATIONS HAD, UM, HISTORY DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, CORPORATIONS AND, AND THE MENTALITY OF DEALING WITH CORPORATIONS.

SO ALL THOSE BOXES WERE CHECKED, UM, WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL, WHICH IS WHY I NOMINATED CARL SETTLES, UH, FROM YOUTH.

UM, AND THERE WAS SOME, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, IT WAS IN A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

SO WHAT I WOULD BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO IS LIKE NOT, NOT VOTE ON THAT, OR IF, IF PEOPLE WITHIN THE GROUP FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS A COMPLICATED FOR ME TO EVEN NOMINATE THEM, THEN I WILL PULL BACK, UM, THAT NOMINATION.

BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, UM, WHAT WE WERE DEALING WITH HERE AND IN MY, IN MY FEELING WAS TIME, AND WE, WE PUT OUT A CALL TO ALL THE MUSIC COMMISSIONERS, UM, AND WE GOT BACK SIX, UM, NOMINATIONS, AND WE KNOW THAT I BELIEVE IT WAS JANUARY 28TH.

DID THEY NEED TO HAVE THIS PERSON, UM, UM, GIVEN TO THEM? SO WE FELT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE TIME CONSIDERATION AND KNOWING THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE OUR ONLY MEETING TO DISCUSS IT BEFORE JANUARY 28TH, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WAITED FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE NOMINATIONS.

WE GOT THE ONES THAT WE GOT IN AND WE DISCUSSED THEM.

AND I THINK WE DISCUSSED THEM IN A VERY TRANSPARENT WAY, WHICH WE HAVE ON RECORD, UM, THAT CAN BE WATCHED AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EVALUATED AS WELL.

BUT, UM, YEAH, JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS IS A ONE-YEAR APPOINTMENT.

SO WE HAVE A YEAR TO TAKE ALL THAT EAT BAG IN, UM, HONE IN ON A BETTER PROCESS, UH, NEXT YEAR.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO, I JUST WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT BECAUSE IT WAS WHILE THE PERSON DIDN'T MENTION MY NAME AND IT WAS CLEAR THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT MYSELF AND IF HE'S WATCHING THIS AND LATER, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, I TOOK THE FEEDBACK, I UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE WAS QUESTIONING, BUT, UM, I ALSO FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DID, UH, WE DID OUR BEST WITH THE TIME CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAD.

WE BROUGHT IT UP IN TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS WHO MADE THE CALL FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSIONERS.

UH, WE HAVE THREE LATINO MUSIC COMMISSIONERS.

UM, AND SO THERE WAS DEFINITELY OPPORTUNITY FOR, YOU KNOW, THREE NOMINATION.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN HE WAS, WHEN HE WAS CRITICIZING US ABOUT AS A LACK OF LATINO REPRESENTATION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LACK OF LATINO REPRESENTATION WITHIN THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE HIM TO, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO THOSE FOLKS.

I WOULD ALSO JUST ENCOURAGE US TO, TO, TO WRAP THIS UP AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

I GUESS, IF WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME MORE NOMINATIONS OR WHATEVER, BUT WE HAVE TO KNOW THAT THESE FOLKS NEED SOMEONE BY JANUARY 28TH.

AND THAT'S OUR CALL.

SO PERSONALLY, UH, I THINK HE MADE SOME GOOD SUGGESTIONS.

UH, I, UH, I'M, I'M STILL SATISFIED WITH THE PROCESS THAT, UH, THAT WE FOLLOWED.

IT'S NOT PERFECT AND THE WAY, AND WE NOW UNDERSTAND HOW TO MAKE IT BETTER, BETTER OUTREACH, ET CETERA.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, THE, UM, UH, THE, THE WEBSITE.

UM, BUT I, UH, I WOULD SUGGEST, OKAY.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION PROCEED WITH OUR PLANNED VOTE AND VOTE ON THE TWO FINALISTS THAT, UM, THAT WERE NOMINATED BY THE WORKING GROUP.

UH, SO I'M, I'M MOVE.

HERE'S WHERE WE NEED TO PROBABLY CARRY IT.

I MOVE THAT, UH, WE PROCEED TO THE VOTE, UH, AND, UM, AND MAKE AN VOTE ON OUR NOMINATION.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR OF, UM, TAKING THESE TWO NOMINATED INDIVIDUALS AND VOTING ON THAT TODAY, UM, SAY AYE, OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

UM, OKAY.

THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S EVERYONE ALL OPPOSED.

DOES IT SEEM LIKE ANYBODY'S OPPOSED TO THAT? OKAY.

SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE CAN TAKE ACTION ON THAT? WE CAN VOTE, I'M GOING TO REMOVE MYSELF FROM VOTING, UM, AS THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM MOVING MYSELF

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FROM THE VOTING ASPECT.

SO IF ON, IF YOU'D LIKE TO LEAD THAT, UM, THEN I THINK WE CAN CARRY THAT OUT.

OKAY.

SO LET'S, LET'S DO IT THIS WAY.

THERE WERE, UH, TWO NOMINEES THAT WERE, UM, CONSIDERED AS FINALISTS BY THE WORKING GROUP.

THE TWO OF THEM ARE EMMETT BELIVEAU AND CARL SETTLES JR.

AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DO IS WE HAVE ONE PERSON SPEAK FOR TWO MINUTES, UH, ABOUT, UH, WHY THEY THINK N IT WOULD BE A GOOD, UH, PERSON IN THIS ROLE AND THEN HAVE ONE PERSON SPEAK FOR TWO MINUTES ABOUT WHY THEY THINK CARL WOULD BE A GOOD PERSON IN THIS ROLE, FOLLOWING THAT WE CAN, UH, WE WE'VE ALL HAD, WE'VE ALL HAD THE STATEMENTS.

AND I CERTAINLY HOPE WE'VE ALL READ THEM FOLLOWING THAT.

I THINK WE'D BE IN A POSITION TO VOTE.

SO IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF EMMETT DEVIN? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF CARL AND HIM? OKAY, EXCELLENT.

AND CHARLOTTE, THAT'S GREAT THAT, UH, SO WHY DON'T WE BEGIN WITH, UM, UM, UH, AND, AND, AND CHARLOTTE, WHY DON'T YOU GO FIRST AND I'LL TIME YOU FOR TWO MINUTES.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH, SO I, WASN'T PREPARED TO GIVE A TWO MINUTE SPEECH ON THIS, AND I WAS TOTALLY UNAWARE OF THE, THE ISSUE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH SHAKA.

I HAVEN'T SPOKEN WITH ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION ABOUT THE NOMINEE IN SPECIFIC TERMS AT ALL, GO AROUND YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR PROCESS FOR THE WORKING GROUP, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS EXCELLENT.

AND YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB OF INFORMING US.

SO I DID HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH EMMA AND CARL.

THEY'RE REALLY BOTH IMPRESSIVE INDIVIDUALS AND BOTH REALLY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT, UM, REPRESENTING US ON THE BOARD.

I WAS PARTICULARLY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT CARL HAD TO SAY ABOUT, UM, SUPPORTING COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES IN AUSTIN AND LIFTING THEM UP IN THE CONTEXT OF LEVERAGING, UM, NEWER RESIDENTS TO OUR, OUR CITY, PARTICULARLY IN THE TECH SECTOR AND HOW THOSE TWO, UM, TWO PARTS OF US CAN BE TOGETHER AND ARE REALLY, UM, EFFECTIVE AND WIN-WIN SITUATION.

LIKE I HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK, BUT CARL SOUNDS LIKE HE HAS SOME GREAT IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO REALLY LEVERAGE YOUR RELATIONSHIPS AND BRING IN FUNDING.

UM, WE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE TALKED ABOUT EDUCATION AND THOSE INEQUITIES, AND I FEEL LIKE HE, AS A LONG TIME RESIDENT OF AUSTIN AND A MUSICIAN AND SOMEONE THAT WORKS IN THE NONPROFIT WORLD, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, IS A PRETTY, UM, I THINK POWERFUL INDIVIDUAL.

LIKE I THINK THAT HE CAN HAVE A FOOT IN BOTH THESE AREAS OF WORKING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, HIGH NET WORTH INDIVIDUALS AND CORPORATIONS, BUT ALSO BE VERY MINDFUL ABOUT, UM, THE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY THAT, THAT ARE REALLY STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW.

AND HE IS VERY ATTUNED TO NOT, NOT LOSING OUR CULTURE HERE IN AUSTIN IN TERMS OF MUSIC IN TERMS OF RACE, ETHNICITY.

SO, UM, AND AGAIN, LIKE NOT THROWING ANY SHADE ON EMMETT HE'S, SAYING'S AMAZING ALSO, BUT, UM, CARL JUST PARTICULARLY IMPRESSED ME TODAY WHEN WE SPOKE.

OKAY.

THAT WAS AWESOME.

THAT WAS LIKE TWO MINUTES AND 10 SECONDS.

FANTASTIC.

AND CHARLOTTE AND, UH, AND, AND, UM, AND I CHALLENGED GAVIN WITHIN THAT TO STAY WITH HIM AS WELL, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MAKING, FOR MAKING, MAKE THEM CASE GAVIN.

UH, PLEASE BEGIN.

OKAY.

THANKS OREN.

AND AGAIN, I CAN MAKE THE SAME CASE FOR CROSS SETTLES AS WELL.

CARL SETTLES GENDER IS PUT IN THE TIME HE'S GOT THE EXPERTISE AND GREAT VISION BECAUSE THIS IS A ONE-YEAR APPOINTMENT IS SO NOVIA, UNDERSTATED, UH, UNDERSCORED, UH, THIS LAWYER, EMMETT BELIVEAU, WHO MOVED TO AUSTIN A FEW AGO TO BECOME CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER OF C3 PRESENTS AS QUITE A DYNAMIC ELEMENT IN, IN A, IN A SPRINT, UH, WITH OTHER, UH, MAJOR PLAYERS WHEN WE'RE TALKING BIG BUSINESS AND DOLLARS AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.

UH, THIS GENTLEMEN WORKED FOR BARACK OBAMA FOR NINE YEARS.

HE'S ONE OF THE VERY FIRST HIRES BY PRESIDENT OBAMA ON HIS CAMPAIGN.

AND HE STAYED WITH

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THEM THROUGH THE WHITE HOUSE, UH, YEARS, UH, TO THIS DAY, UH, WHILE HE DID THAT, HE SERVED AS A MENTOR TO YOUNG, UH, BLACK MEN IN WASHINGTON, DC THROUGH MY BROTHER'S KEEPERS PROGRAM.

UH, HE HELD SEVEN YEARS OF SENIOR POSITIONS FOR BARACK OBAMA AT HIS RIGHT ARM.

UH, HE ALSO VOLUNTEERS NOW FOR CASA OF TRAVIS COUNTY.

UH, WHILE I WAS IN WASHINGTON, HE TAUGHT, UH, CIVIL RIGHTS CLASSES AND BASIC LAW CLASSES, UH, CALLED STREET LAW AT PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOLS IN WASHINGTON, DC.

HE WORKED AS A PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR GEORGETOWN'S CRIMINAL JUSTICE CLINIC FOR THE UNDERSERVED LOWER SOCIOECONOMIC COMMITTEE.

HE WORKED AS A VOLUNTEER LEGAL ADVISOR TO DCS BREAD FOR THE CITY LOW-INCOME LEGAL CLINIC.

UM, BRING INTO AUSTIN THAT BACKGROUND, UH, MAYOR ADLER PUT HIM ON HIS BEYOND DIVERSITY SEMINAR, UH, FIRST TEAM, UM, WHERE HE STUDIED THE INSTITUTIONAL RACISM AND SYSTEMIC EQUITIES TO THAT END.

UM, HE HAS MADE A PROMISE THAT HE WILL CALL FOR THE AEDC TO ADD LANGUAGE TO ITS FORMAL MISSION STATEMENT THAT STATES THAT AEDC WILL ENSURE THAT ANY INVESTMENT OF PROGRAMMING WILL CONSIDER SYSTEMIC RACISM AND INEQUITY AND ENSURE MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH LOCAL MUSICIANS OF COLOR.

UM, AND AGAIN, UH, HIS MISSION AGAIN, WILL BE TO TRANSFORM DECADES OF RESEARCH ADVOCACY, AND POLICY DEVELOPMENT INTO ACTION.

UH, THAT BACKGROUND WITH, UH, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES LEADER OF THE WORLD, BARACK OBAMA, COUPLED WITH HIS, UH, BUSINESS AT C3 PRESENTS, WHAT SPEEDS OUR ECONOMY MAKES FOR QUITE A STORY.

OKAY.

TWO MINUTES.

YEAH, IT WILL LOAD LIKE TWO MINUTES AND 15 SECONDS.

YOU'RE YOU'RE GOOD.

I, I, I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, TWO GOOD CANDIDATES.

SO ALVIN WITH THAT AT APPS.

ABSOLUTELY.

UM, NOW, UH, WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO READ THAT.

ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ASK ANYONE, ANYONE HERE BEFORE WE GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE VOTE? YES.

AND CHARLOTTE, UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR, SO NOVIA ABOUT THE CARE APPOINTMENT.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT PERSON CANNOT SERVE BEYOND ONE YEAR OR TO MAYBE REAPPOINTED SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME UNTIL I GOT DISTRACTED? SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE INITIAL APPOINTMENT IS FOR ONE YEAR, CAN THAT PERSON BE REAPPOINTED OR IS THE NOTION THAT THEY, SOMEONE ELSE WOULD COME AND THAT SEAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, AND I WANT DAVID TO COME OFF MUTE JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M CORRECT.

I WOULD STILL RECOMMEND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, EVEN IF A NOMINEE FROM THIS YEAR IS RECOMMENDED AGAIN, I THINK YOU NEED A FULL PROCESS TO INCORPORATE CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND GO THROUGH EIGHT, A NEW PROCESS.

YEAH.

THEY HAVE A COLLAGEN HERE WITH A DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

SO NOBODY IS CORRECT.

WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AGAIN WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR SO.

UH, THE, THE CORPORATION WILL BE, UH, LOOKING TO GO THROUGH OUR EXECUTIVE SEARCH PROCESS.

SO WE WILL HAVE THAT CEO, UH, THAT WILL BE HERE TO HELP GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH YOU AND THE OTHER BODIES WHO HAVE A ONE-YEAR APPOINTMENT.

BUT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, YOU CAN READ, NOMINATE THE INDIVIDUAL THAT, UH, IS CURRENTLY SERVING WITHIN THE SPACE AND LOOK TO MOVE, TO NOMINATE, UH, SOMEONE ELSE.

BUT IT'S STILL NEVER, YOU MENTIONED THE CITY IMAGINES A, A LONGER PROCESS, UH, THAT CERTAINLY IS INFORMED BY THE COMMISSION AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU'VE HAD IN THIS SHORTER PROCESS.

OKAY.

UH, IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS THAT I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCEED TO VOTE BEFORE WE DO THAT, I THINK WE SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE WILLING TO APPLY AND BE CONSIDERED.

UH, I'M NOT, UH, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO SAYING WHO ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE CONSIDERED, UM, ARE, UH, BUT THERE, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF SIX OF THEM, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THEM FOR VOLUNTEERING TO TAKE ON THIS IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY.

UH, AND, UH, THAT SAID, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEGIN THE VOTE.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CROWN SETTLES JR.

AS THE A E D C MORE MEMBER REPRESENTING THE MUSIC COMMISSION, PLEASE SAY, AYE, OR RAISE YOUR HAND AND MAKE YOUR, MAKE YOUR VOTE KNOWN.

I SEE DOUG AND CHARLOTTE AND PAUL.

OKAY.

OH, AND GRAHAM.

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OKAY.

DOUG.

OKAY.

DOUG AND CHARLOTTE, PAULA AND GRAHAM ARE IN FAVOR OF CARL, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF EMMET.

UH, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A, UH, THAT WOULD BE ME ANIMAL, UM, PATRICE AND GAVIN.

SO WE HAVE A FOUR TO FOUR TIE.

HOW COULD THAT BE? IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE EVERYBODY HERE AND, UM, AND SHAKA, UH, YEAH.

UM, TO ME, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BOTH AMAZING CANDIDATES AND IT'S, THEY'RE INCREDIBLE RESOURCES THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER AND HELP OUR, OUR MUSIC COMMUNITY.

UH, I I'M CURIOUS, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THEY WOULD WANT TO TAKE TURNS DOING IT, OR IS THERE SOME OTHER PLACE TO USE ONE OR THE OTHER? IT WAS HARD TO, I MEAN, I, I FELT IT WOULD, UH, IT'S A HARD VOTE BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH SO, SO QUALIFIED IN VERY DIFFERENT, BUT RELATED WAYS, UM, OUR CHANCE TO HAVE TWO MEMBERS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE FIRST YEAR IT'S POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO PUT TWO NOMINATIONS AND COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE ONE PERSON WITHIN THAT SEAT WITH THIS THING, THAT'S ALL THE BODIES, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO JUST HAVE A ONE YEAR TERM TO PUT SOMEONE WITHIN THAT PLACE THAT UNDERSTANDS PUBLIC DEVELOPMENTS.

UM, AND THEN WE WOULD BE COMING BACK FOR, UH, ANOTHER NOMINEE WITHIN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

SO WE CAN PASS THE BUCK IF WE WANT TO, THIS IS A TERRIBLE THING TO DO.

CAUSE I, I THINK WE, WE, WE KNOW THESE CANDIDATES BETTER THAN COUNCIL COULD AT THAT POINT AND WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH IT.

SO IT'S VERY PART OF WHO WE ARE WE MISSING, WHO WOULD BE THE TIE-BREAKING VOTE? OH, WOW.

STEWART STEWART.

YEAH.

SO, UH, IS IT DOWN TO STEWART? HE'S GOT TO READ THOSE EMAILS THOROUGHLY AND THEN VOTE.

SOUNDS LIKE IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

IS THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO LET ME ASK KIM A QUESTION.

KIM, DO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING FOR THE VOTE TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE IS IN ATTENDANCE? YEAH, THE, UH, THE, AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT THOSE, UM, REGULATIONS HAVEN'T CHANGED, UM, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT, BUT I BELIEVE YOU CAN HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO DO IT WITH AN EMAIL.

NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH EMAIL, SOME RECORDING SESSION THAT MIGHT'VE JUST FINISHED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ANYBODY KNOW WHERE HE'S AT? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

HEY, CHUCK, YOU WANT TO TEXT STEWART AND SEE WHAT HE'S UP TO? UH, I'M TEXTING HIM NOW.

IT'S ALMOST NINE O'CLOCK, SO CAN WRAP THIS UP, ALTHOUGH YEAH, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, I MEAN, IS ANYBODY THAT'S ON THE FENCE ON EITHER END EITHER ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, JUMP OFF THE FENCE.

I, UH, I REALLY COULD GO EITHER WAY.

I DON'T PERSONALLY KNOW EITHER OF THE CANDIDATES.

UM, I, I REALLY PREFER THEM BOTH FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, TOO.

I REALLY LIKED THAT.

UH, I'M AS QUALIFICATIONS WITH, YOU KNOW, LARGE ORGANIZATIONS.

UM, AND WE GOT AN AUSTIN, AUSTIN NATIVE IN THE MIDST, TOO.

RIGHT.

I FEEL LIKE THAT VESTED INTEREST IS, IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN, YOU KNOW, AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS.

I REALLY COULD GO EITHER WAY.

YEAH, I CAN JUST SAY, AND I SAID THIS IN OUR WORKING GROUP MEETING THAT UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S REASONS THAT THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE IF THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON FROM THE MUSIC SECTOR.

AND WE'RE A HUGE PART OF THE ECONOMIC ENGINE OF THE CITY IN AN IDEAL SITUATION, BOTH OF THESE MEN WOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE ON THIS.

UM, IN THIS CORPORATION, IT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE THAT WE

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WERE ONLY ABLE TO NOMINATE ONE PERSON.

THEY BOTH HAVE EXTRAORDINARY, EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES THAT WOULD STRENGTHEN EACH OTHER.

AND ALSO, I THINK A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO CHIME IN AND SAY THAT, UH, I WAS ONE OF THE, HAD ONE OF THE SIX NOMINEES.

UM, I TALKED TO MY CANDIDATE AND, UM, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS NOT NOMINATED FOR AS ONE OF THE TWO, UM, HE DID WANT TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR CARL, UM, BECAUSE HE'S BEEN A LIFELONG AUSTENITE, UH, MUSICIAN, UM, HE'S, UH, BLACK, AFRICAN AMERICAN BLACK MAN.

AND HE BRINGS JUST SO MUCH EX EXPERTISE, UM, THAT SOMEONE WHO IS A MUSIC MUSICIAN OF COLOR CAN BRING, YEAH, I THINK TO SERVE, UH, AUSTIN MUSIC COMMUNITY, AND, UH, IT'S, UH, BEST AND TO USE THE CITY RATE RESOURCES BEST, I HESITATE TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING TO HAVE STEWART VOTE.

UM, I WOULD RATHER CHANGE MY VOTE AND DO THAT.

NOT, NOT THE SAKE OF MY PERSONAL TIME, BUT JUST THIS COLLECTIVE TIME.

AND, BUT THE PERSON GET READY TO DO THIS JOB.

UM, UH, AND SO, UH, SO IF THEY WOULD MOVE THIS LONG, UNLESS I WOULD SWITCH MY VOTE TO EMMETT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO GET CARL, UH, WORKING WITH US IN SOME WAY, BECAUSE HE'S AN AMAZING RESOURCE, I THINK.

OKAY.

SO SHOULD WE REALLY, UH, I MEAN, DO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE VOTING, VOTING, VOTING PROCESS AGAIN, THAT CHANGES IT TO FIVE TO THREE? UM, UH, I MEAN, ARE WE ALL, ARE WE ALL, ARE WE ALL COOL WITH THAT? AND, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU, GRAHAM.

I KNOW THAT'S A, UM, THAT WAS A TOUGH DECISION TO MAKE.

ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? AND, OR, AND IF I MAY MAKE, UH, ANOTHER COMMENT, UH, OF THE NOMINATIONS THAT YOU ALL THOUGHT, UH, HAD STRONG PERSPECTIVE ON INDUSTRY GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENTS, UH, HAVING WORKED WITHIN DIFFERENT, UH, VENUES HERE IN AUSTIN, OR MAYBE WITHIN CERTAIN SECTORS OR SEGMENTS OF THE WORKFORCE, WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THOSE INDIVIDUALS, THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THEM ON OUR LIST FOR, FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO WILL BE SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CULTURAL TRUST.

UH, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THOSE PEOPLE BRING VERY SPECIFIC KNOWLEDGE SETS TO THE, THE WORKING AND THE WORKING DEVELOPMENT THAT CULTURAL TRUST, THIS PERSON THAT YOU PUT FORWARD FOR THE BOARD WILL BE WORKING IN THAT CAPACITY AS WELL, BUT THEN WE'LL ALSO BE INTERACTING IN OTHER PROJECTS.

UH, SO WE STILL HAVE A USE FOR THE OTHER NOMINATIONS, UH, AND CERTAINLY FOR HER IF HE IS YOUR, YOUR SECOND CHOICE.

OKAY.

THAT'S THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

WE WILL.

UM, UH, SO HOW, HOW DO WE MAKE THAT? HOW DO WE MAKE W WHEN WE MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION? I THINK WE'RE ABOUT TO W HOW, HOW, HOW DO WE DO THIS? WE MAKE A, UM, ONCE YOU VOTE ON, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL THAT YOU SUPPORT, UH, UH, BY MAJORITY, THEN WE WOULD ASK FOR A RESOLUTION, UM, IF YOU DO NOT GET TO MAJORITY VOTES, AND I, WE COULD ASK THAT, UM, BOTH ARE SUPPORTED.

WE WILL JUST NEED TO VET OUT THE, THE, THE CONCERN ABOUT THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

UM, BUT WE CAN THEN WORK WITH SHAKA TO, TO PUT TOGETHER A LETTER THAT PUTS FORWARD THE NOMINATION OFFICIALLY FROM THE COMMISSION.

UH, BUT I THINK WE WOULD PREFER A MAJORITY VOTE AND A RESOLUTION TONIGHT.

I WILL THEN FOLLOW UP WITH ERICA AND KIM TO GET ALL OF THE NOMINEES AND THE INFORMATION THAT, UH, PROFILED FROM EACH OF ON THOSE NOMINEES.

SO WE CAN TO BRING FORWARD THAT COMMITTEE STRUCTURE.

OKAY.

SO FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'LL MOTION THAT WE RESOLVED TO PUT FORWARD AS OUR NOMINEE TO THE ADC.

SECOND, I THINK SHAKA WANTED YOU TO RUN THE VOTE RN.

OKAY.

SO DO WE HAVE, DO WE,

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SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON HERE IS CAN WE, AS A COMMISSION PASS X, ARE WE OKAY WITH THE VOTE AND ACCEPTING THE DECISION AND CAN THEN WE THEN UNANIMOUSLY SAY THAT WE, THAT THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN FAIR AND THAT WE CAN, UH, NOMINATE THAT ROLE.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF NOMINATING, BUT I NEED A SECOND.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO VOTE ON WHETHER THE PROCESS WAS FAIR OR NOT.

IT'S A COMPLICATED QUESTION.

I THINK WE WANT A SIMPLE RESOLUTION NOMINATED OR NOT.

OKAY.

UH, SO A SIMPLE NOMINATION FOR EMMETT.

UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? YES.

UH, OKAY.

PAUL, UH, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF NOMINATING AND IT FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION SEAT, UH, ON THE AEDC BOARD, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, SAY AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

UH, AYE.

OKAY.

SO THAT COUNTS ONE, TWO, THREE, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S SIX OF US, ALL THOSE OPPOSED THREE.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN EVEN VOTE ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD GO ON THAT, BUT IF, I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD JUST EXCUSE MYSELF FROM THE ENTIRE PROCESS, I THINK YOU'RE BETTER OFF PROCURING YOURSELF FROM THESE TESTS.

THERE YOU GO.

I'M NOT HERE.

OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT, SO OF THE, OF THOSE PRESENTS, THAT IS A SIX TO A SIX TO TWO VOTE.

UM, THOSE IN FAVOR BEING, UH, MYSELF RAM, UM, UH, GAVIN, UH, PATRICE AL AND PAUL, THOSE OPPOSE BEING, UH, DOUG AND, UH, AND CHARLOTTE WITH, UH, CHAKA RECUSED AND THE MOTION PASSES.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GOING

[3B. Discussion and Possible Action on Save Austin’s Vital Economic Sectors (SAVES) fund with focus on equity plan and enforcement. ]

TO MOVE ON TO THREE B DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON SAVE AUSTIN'S VITAL ECONOMIC SECTORS FUND WITH FOCUS ON EQUITY, PLANNING AND ENFORCEMENT, AN UPDATE ON THIS.

I THINK ERICA WAS GOING TO GIVE AN UPDATE, BUT IS HAVING INTERNET, UM, CHALLENGES.

UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO DATE RECEIVED OR DISPERSED NOW, UM, 64 GRANT AWARDS, AND WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, YEAH, THEY JUST GAVE YOU POWER OF THE VIDEO.

UM, SO WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

THE APPLICATION CLOSES ON JANUARY 11TH.

UH, THE FIRST CHECK STARTED BEING DISPERSED THE DAY BEFORE CHRISTMAS, THE FIRST $20,000 CHECKS AND, UH, WIRE TRANSFERS AND HAVE CONTINUED SINCE THEN.

AND SO WE'RE JUST WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THAT LIST.

UH, JUST A FEW ISSUES, JUST BEING SURE THAT THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS ARE BEING FOLLOWED, UM, AND TEEING OURSELVES UP FOR PHASE TWO.

UH, SO WE ASSUME THAT WE SHOULD HAVE EVERYTHING KIND OF SETTLED HERE IN THE NEXT 10 DAYS FOR PHASE ONE.

AND, UM, WE ARE WORKING ON, UM, A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT HOW THAT'S GOING FOR PHASE ONE, AND THAT WILL HAPPEN IN COORDINATION WITH THE LONG CENTER HERE SOON.

UM, BUT SO FAR WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY MAJOR HICCUPS, UM, AND THE PROCESS SEEMS TO BE GOING SMOOTHLY, UH, WHICH IS GREAT.

AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING NOW TOWARDS WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT AND SCHEDULING THE WORKSHOPS FOR THE EQUITY, STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOPS.

WE EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN, UM, LIKE END OF JANUARY, 1ST OF FEBRUARY.

AND SO BY OUR NEXT, UH, MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING, WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE A MORE IN-DEPTH UPDATE ABOUT THE EQUITY, STRATEGIC PLAN TRAINING THAT, UH, WE HAVE BROUGHT A CONSULTANT ON TO DO FOR US AND WORK WITH US AND ALONE.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS IF IT'S DENIED, DENIED FUNDING, LIKE, I'M SORRY, I'M HERE.

SORRY.

I'M HERE.

HOW WOULD THEY FIND OUT WHY THEY WERE DENIED? HOW WOULD THEY GO ABOUT GETTING THE SPECIFICS? THE, OUR CONTRACTOR, OUR THIRD PARTY, THE LONG CENTER IS

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DOING ALL OF THAT.

ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE APPLICANTS, NOT ONLY GOING THROUGH APPLICATIONS AND MAKING DETERMINATIONS ON ELIGIBILITY, BUT THEY ARE REACHING OUT TO THOSE APPLICANTS ONE BY ONE WITH ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, AND ALSO TO EXPLAIN, UH, WHY AN APPLICATION MAY BE DENIED.

SO SOMEONE DID REACH OUT FOR AN ENTITY AND THEY, UM, IT DID SHOW ME THE EMAIL THAT THEY RECEIVED AND IT, IT JUST SAID THEY DIDN'T MEET ONE OF THE CRITERIA.

IT DIDN'T STATE, WHICH, WHICH ONE OF THOSE.

SO HOW SHOULD THEY JUST REPLY TO THAT EMAIL? IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT THEY SHOULD JUST REPLY BACK FOR A SPECIFIC REASONING.

UM, WE'LL TOUCH BASE TOMORROW AND CHARLOTTE, IF YOU COULD SEND THAT BACK, SHE'S HAVING CHALLENGES, BUT YES, ANYONE WHO HAS RECEIVED AN EMAIL SHOULD CALL THAT DETAIL TO GET MORE DETAILS.

SORRY, IF YOU CAN'T HEAR ME.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR.

UM, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING, ANY QUESTIONS, ANY, ANY COMMENTS? WELL, GREAT WORK Y'ALL AND ON GETTING THAT MONEY OUT, I'M SURE THOSE VENUES ARE, UH, COUNTER BLESSINGS RIGHT NOW AND HOPEFULLY, UM, THE, THE EQUITY PIECE, UM, COMING UP AND IT'S ROBUST AND, UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IT MORE THAN IN MOVING FORWARD.

UM,

[3C. Discussion and Possible Action after update from Systemic Racism Working Group. ]

I THREE C DISCUSSING A POSSIBLE ACTION AFTER UPDATE FROM SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP, UH, AND OR PAUL, LIKE TO CHIME IN ON THE GROUP IN CHARLOTTE, SIR.

UH, UH, ACTUALLY I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT.

I FEEL LIKE I'VE RUN THE CONVERSATION THE TIME.

SO UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

UH, YEAH, WELL, UH, NOTHING, NOTHING REALLY ENTIRELY NEW TO, TO, UH, TO SAY, UM, WE HAD, WE HAD A SMALL GATHERING BEFORE THE HOLIDAY, UH, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF GEARING UP, UM, FOR THIS YEAR AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WANT TO PUSH.

I KNOW WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE, UH, THE VENUE SURVEY, UH, FROM THE BLACK AUSTIN MUSICIANS GROUP.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW AND WE'RE GOING TO START FORMULATING THE AGENDA AND OUR FOCUS POINTS FOR THE YEAR IN TERMS OF EQUITY AND MUSIC INDUSTRY IN AUSTIN.

SO, UH, STAY TUNED FOR FEBRUARY.

I SAY THAT, UM, OKAY.

ANY, UH, IT'S NINE

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ]

OH SEVEN, ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, AND IT'S BEEN A LONG MEETING, BUT IT'S BEEN GOOD.

IT'S BEEN EFFECTIVE.

UM, ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU GUYS, I NOTICED, SOME THINGS BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY, THE THREE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO DISCUSS NEXT MONTH.

OKAY.

SO ONE WOULD BE A MOTION THAT THE ACTIVE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, UH, ON MUSIC PERMITTING DURING COVID, UH, UH, FOLLOWING PRESENTATION BY MONICA KAYVON, UH, SCHEMA, BASICALLY, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE LEFT HER WITH THE GO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, COME BACK ON AND TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN NEXT MONTH.

ALSO TALK ABOUT THEM AS WELL.

AND IT SOUNDS THE PERSON SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, OUT AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE SOME, SOME IDEAS OF SOME THINGS GOING ON TO TALK ABOUT.

THAT'S THE SECOND NET.

THE SECOND ONE I'VE GOT IS A, UH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO VOTE PARLIAMENTARY WISE ON, ON GEN ITEMS ONCE WE HAVE A SECOND EYE, UM, THEN, UH, YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS AI TIRED IN PUBLIC PLACES, AGAIN, SO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REVIEW OF OUR, IN PUBLIC PLACES, FUNDING AND EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MUSIC SECOND.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE I NOTED IS I'M BLURRY ABOUT, CAUSE IT'S SUCH A BIG ONE OF THIS, THE GOALS IT'S A, SINCE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO ONLY DISCUSS THINGS THAT WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS, AND GOALS IS A VERY BROAD THING TO DISCUSS.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW TO WORD OR APPROACH THAT.

UM, BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE THAT'S, UH, WHAT WE, OUR HOMEWORK AT HOME THAT YOU WANT EVERYBODY TO COME UP WITH THEIR DISTRICT SPECIFIC PROPOSALS.

AND THEN WE ADD

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THOSE AS INDIVIDUAL ITEMS AS OPPOSED TO A GENERAL ITEM.

SO WE DON'T GET INTO TROUBLE OF DISCUSSING DISTRICT SEVEN.

UM, IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE PUT IT UNDER A GOALS VERY BROADLY.

WHAT WAS THAT IN TERMS OF THE MEETING IS LIKE TO ADD A SPECIFIC PART OF THE AGENDA WHERE ONE, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, AT THE TOP, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A MUSIC PERFORMANCE EVERY AT EVERY COMMISSION MEETING.

UM, AND THEN TWO TO LIKE HAVE A, HAVE A CHECK-IN, UM, IN TERMS OF LIKE DISTRICT, JUST A DISTRICT CHECK IN WHAT'S GOING ON, UM, TO ADD TO THE ACTUAL AGENDA.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

WELL, WE'D NEED A PARLIAMENTARIAN TO DISCUSS THAT AND PROBABLY TO TELL US WHETHER IT'S POSSIBLE OR NOT.

BUT, UH, I THINK IS THE ONLY WAY I IMAGINED IT BEING POSSIBLE WAS THAT WE DID NOT ASK EACH OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT ESSENTIALLY, UH, LIKE OUR OWN CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, BECAUSE IF WE DISCUSS IT, THEN WE'RE HAVING AN OPEN, A MEETING ABOUT SOMETHING WE DID NOT PUT ON THE AGENDA.

RIGHT? NO, I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE JUST MORE OF A JUST GENERAL MOMENT WHERE WE CHECK IN AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN REPORT ON THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, BUT THEY CAN'T PERFORMANCE AND CELEBRATION OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH NEXT MONTH.

I MEAN, IF I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING, YEAH.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE, I'M TELLING YOU THAT THAT'S, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO BE CELEBRATING BLACK HISTORY MONTH, WHETHER Y'ALL LIKE IT OR NOT.

I'D SAY WE PUT ON THE AGENDA AN ITEM THAT'S SHOCKED FOR ME NOW, WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, WHY I WANT TO SUGGEST IS THAT, UM, WE HAVE A PARTY AGENDA FOR A PERFORMANCE OF SOME TYPE EVERY MUSIC COMMISSIONER, SO WE CAN HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN MUSICALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

YEAH.

AND LET'S START AND LET'S START NEXT MONTH.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, UM, W HOW DO YOU PROPOSE THAT WE, WE DO THAT MONTHLY, UM, WOULD THAT BE, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTIONS? HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE CHOOSE THOSE PEOPLE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? WHY DON'T WE ASSIGN A MUSIC COMMISSIONER EACH MONTH TO WRANGLE A PERFORMER FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU KNOW, FOR ONE SONG? AND, UH, WE'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST ALTERNATE.

MY MAIN QUESTION IS, DO WE INTEND TO PAY THAT PERFORMER? UM, I MEAN, I, I, I, I THINK FOR US, IT'S JUST AN AWKWARD PRECEDENT TO ASK PEOPLE TO PERFORM AND, AND, UH, THE CITY MIGHT HAVE A BUDGET SKEPTICAL WORK.

I, I HAVE A SUGGESTION IN, UM, ERICA AND STEPHANIE MAY KILL ME, BUT, UM, SINCE WE GONE VIRTUAL, WE HAVEN'T HAD THE LIVE MUSIC AT THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND I KNOW WE HAD MUSICIANS ALREADY SCHEDULED THAT NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO PERFORM.

MAYBE WE COULD START WITH THAT LIST, JUST A THOUGHT OR ANYTHING SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, ALICE SHAKING HIS HEAD.

NO, DO THEY WAIT SO LONG TO PERFORM? AND THEN THEY'LL ONLY DO ONE SONG IT'S, UM, IT'S NOT AN EVEN TRADE, BUT, AND THEN WE'RE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WELL, INTO OVER THREE HOURS, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SCORE, JUST A THOUGHT, WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT SAYING, NO, YOU DON'T WANT IT TO HAPPEN.

WELL, IN THE CASE THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE GOT TO PERFORM FOR CITY, YOU KNOW, THAT THE COMMISSIONERS, I MEAN, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UM, IT'S AN HONOR.

AND THEN TO KIND OF SAY THAT DOWN AND THEY SAID, OH, WE SWAPPED IT WITH A FIVE MINUTE PERFORMANCE.

IT'S DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, BUT I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE THOUGHT MY FEET, I'D LIKE TO STILL, IF THEY KIND OF, IF THEY LANDED A LITTLE CHILL THERE AND MAYBE WE COULD USE THEM WHEN THE TIME COMES BACK AROUND.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT EITHER.

I MEAN, THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING I FELT LIKE WOULD BE COOL.

GREAT IDEA.

NO GREAT IDEA.

I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEEDED, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THAT IDEA.

SO DO I KNOW TIME IS NOW NINE 15.

SO DO WE WANT TO FIGURE THIS OUT AT THE NEXT MEETING? MAYBE SOME PEOPLE COME WITH IDEAS I'LL VOLUNTEER TO BRING SOMEBODY TO PERFORM NEXT MONTH.

IS THAT COOL WITH Y'ALL?

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AND, UM, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, GRAHAM, ABOUT THE PAY, UM, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE FIVE, FOUR OR FIVE MINUTES PERFORMANCE.

I GET IT.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'M WRONG FOR THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING COOL FOR SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST SHARE WITH US, BUT HEY, I GET IT.

BUT I'M OF THE MINDSET THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A LITTLE, LITTLE SOMETHING, A LITTLE OFFERING, SOMETHING TO SHARE, BUT HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL REAL QUICK? YOU THINK, DO YOU THINK THESE, UH, EVERYONE SHOULD BE PAID FOR LIKE A FIVE MINUTE, LIKE A ONE SONG PERFORMANCE AND SOMETHING? THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS IT'S, UH, IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN ASKING THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMUNITY BROADLY TO NOT TAKE MUSIC FOR GRANTED AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU'RE ASKING A MUSICIAN TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEIR TIME IS WORTH SOMETHING, AND IT'S NOT JUST FIVE MINUTES, THEY LOAD THEIR EQUIPMENT OR THEY SET UP THEIR EQUIPMENT.

IF THEY'RE STREAMING, IT IS EASIER DURING STREAMING.

THAT IS TRUE.

IT'S NOT AS BIG OF AN ASK BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING IT'S JUST FIVE MINUTES IS THE PREP TIME.

THERE'S THE PARTICIPATING TIME.

THERE'S ALL THAT.

BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE ASKING THE COMMUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THE FINANCIAL WORTH OF MUSICIANS TIME.

THE TIP JAR GIGS ARE NOT REAL.

THEY'RE THERE THEY'RE REAL GIGS TO THE MUSICIANS, BUT THEY'RE NOT REVENUE SOURCES.

AND WE JUST HAVE TO TASSEL THAT WE DON'T, UM, TO TODAY TO VALUES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ASK PEOPLE TO HOLD, CORRECT.

MAYBE WE OFFER A LINK FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HELP SUPPORT THAT ONE ARTIST.

IT MADE ME GET TO KNOW THAT THEY EXIST.

YOU KNOW, I, UM, I, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SET A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

UM, I MEAN, OFF THE SUBJECT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, IN LOOKING AT THE SOCIAL MEDIA OF, UH, OF THE ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION, THE EVENTS AREN'T LISTED, OUR COMMISSION MEETINGS, AREN'T LISTED IN HIS PANTS AND THAT'S ANOTHER RESOURCE FOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS ON HOW TO FIND US, THEN JUST HEAR PARTS OF THE DV.

SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD SET UP SOME TYPE OF EVENT INFRASTRUCTURE OR LITTLE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID YOU KNOW, HOW WE DISTRIBUTE THE INVITES OR THE SOCIAL MEDIA, OR USE, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY AND POPULAR, YOU KNOW, ANGLES CONSISTENTLY.

I THINK WE'D GET BETTER RESULTS.

UH, I AGREE WITH THAT.

WHAT, MAYBE WE CAN WORD THAT AS, UM, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR, UM, DIGITAL OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATION BY THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

SO I WOULDN'T THINK THAT WE ADD THAT.

DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SECOND THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM? YEAH.

THAT'S THE SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE JUST IN, IN YOU, YOU SAID OUTREACH, BUT LET'S INCLUDE WELL, SO YEAH, A HAPPY COMPROMISE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, IN THE CREATION OF SOME TYPE OF SOCIAL MEDIA LANDING PAGE FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO SHARE NEWS, WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THE MUSIC COMMISSIONS ARTISTS OF THE MONTH THAT WE FEATURE, YOU KNOW, SHARE MAYBE A PIECE OF MEDIA SONG OR VIDEO, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEIR FINANCIAL, YOU KNOW, THEIR VENMO OR WHATEVER, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, NETS GAUGE OPPORTUNITIES.

IF THEY'RE DOING THAT AS A WAY TO KIND OF HELP PROMOTE THEM WHILE STILL, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY ASKING FOR THEM TO WORK FOR FREE.

ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A COMPROMISE, I GUESS WE COULD JUST PLAY A LEG DOWN INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM BEFORE WE HAVE A BUDGET.

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

I WOULD BE ALL IN, I KIND OF SHARED GRAHAM'S SENTIMENT ABOUT THAT NOW I DO TOO.

I JUST, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A DIFFERENT SCENARIO RIGHT NOW.

PEOPLE AT HOME, I THINK, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COULD SIT DOWN AND SING A SONG OR WHATEVER.

I DON'T THINK IT'S, I GET WHAT Y'ALL ARE SAYING, BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE YOU CAN FIND A BUDGET IN KNOW THAT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT AND HEAR WHERE IT'S GOING TO COME FROM.

I ALSO SHARE AL'S CONCERN ABOUT, UH, ABOUT EXTENDING OUR, OUR MEETING TIME AND, YOU KNOW, UH, NOT BEING ABLE TO GET TO STUFF THAT REALLY WAITING TO GET DONE, BUT IT'S ONLY A FIVE MINUTE SONG ALSO.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S ASKING TOO MUCH EITHER WE CAN DO IT.

YEAH.

LET'S GET CREATIVE UNLESS IT'S A JAM MAN.

Y'ALL, LET'S GET CREATIVE WITH, I AGREE.

I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN HONORARIUM AND LET'S GET CREATIVE, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT MUCH MONEY TO COME UP WITH A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH, RIGHT? SOMEWHERE BETWEEN ALL OF US, WE CAN ROUND UP ENOUGH PEOPLE TO CONTRIBUTE 1000, $200 THAT WILL PAY A HUNDRED DOLLARS SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PURPOSE.

AND,

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UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM NICELY.

AND JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME NON-PROFIT OR PHILANTHROPIC GROUP.

WE, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN ROUND UP THE MONEY, LET'S PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

UH, NOBODY WILL BE PERFORMED FOR FREE NEXT WEEK.

I WILL PLAY A LEG.

SOMETHING DAMN IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

NOW WE GOING TO DO IT AS A SCARE, RIGHT? EXCUSE ME.

THIS IS KIM.

I D I DON'T, I THINK I HEARD MOTIONS FOR THE LAST TWO AGENDA ITEMS. THERE, THERE WAS THE ONE FOR THE MUSIC PERFORMANCE, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS FOR THE DIGITAL OUTREACH.

WERE THERE SECONDS FOR THOSE? I THINK THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A MOTION TO ADD THAT TO A CONVERSATION.

YES.

SO THE, UM, DOES ANYBODY SECOND ADDING THE SECOND OF THE OUTREACH? OKAY.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS, UH, ABOUT WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ADDING, ADDING A PERFORMANCE TO, UH, TO OUR MEETINGS.

YEP.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT BRINGS US WE'RE ALL THROUGH Y'ALL.

UH, IF I COULD GET, UH, JUST A STANDING AGENDA ITEM UPDATE FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, UH, FOLLOWING UPDATE FROM DOWNTOWN COMMISSION.

SO THAT WAY.

COOL.

THANK YOU.

GREAT MOTION TO ADJOURN SECOND.

ALRIGHT, THANKS.

Y'ALL APPRECIATE IT.

UH, YA'LL STAY SAFE.

TAKE CARE.

PEACE.

YEAH.

THAT'S .