Jan 11, 2021 Board of Adjustment

THANK YOU, MELISSA HAWTHORNE HERE.

HEY MELISSA.

HI, I'M DON LAYTON BURWELL HERE.

RON MCDANIEL HERE.

UH, DARRYL PRUITT HERE.

UM, YOU ME YASMIN SMITH.

ALRIGHTY, THANK YOU.

UH, MICHAEL VAUGHN OLIN.

I DON'T SEE HIM LOGAN YET.

UM, AND, UH, JUST TACOMA AND MICHAEL, ARE YOU JUST GOT ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S WEBEX FOR A MINUTE? YOU BALLOON I'M HERE.

THANKS KELLY.

AND THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO SHOW UP, UH, AS AN ALTERNATE FOR US.

UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M HAPPY TO DO IT.

YEAH, WELL, GOOD, GOOD, GOOD.

UH, IF YOU COULD JUST BE THREE PEOPLE NOW WE WOULD HAVE OUR PROBLEM SOLVED, SO, OKAY.

UM, SO, UM, WE'VE GOT, UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WILL BE GIVING TESTIMONY TONIGHT, UM, I JUST, UH, UH, AGAIN, SINCE WE'RE NOT MEETING IN, IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS, UH, BUT, UH, IT IS UNDERSTOOD, UH, THAT YOU WILL, UH, THAT YOU SELL ONLY SQUARE TO AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU'LL GIVE TONIGHT WILL BE TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE.

SO THAT'S A PROVISO, UH, FOR GIVING TESTIMONY TONIGHT THAT YOU AGREE TO THAT STATEMENT, IF YOU CAN'T, UM, THEN I WOULD ASK THAT YOU NOT GIVE TESTIMONY.

UM, SO THAT'S IT FOR THAT.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING UNDER OUR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION LANE? YEP.

SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM, UM,

[A-1 Staff requests approval December 14, 2020 draft minutes]

A ONE.

THIS IS, UM, THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE DECEMBER 14TH, 20, 20 DRAFT MINUTES.

DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THAT SECOND? UH, OKAY.

MOTION TO APPROVE BY JESSICA AND, UM, AND THE SECOND BY MELISSA, UM, WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR CORRECTIONS ON THAT BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE? OKAY.

HEARING NONE.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

UH, THIS IS AGAIN, UM, ITEM A ONE.

UH, JESSICA GOING? YES.

THANK YOU, MELISSA HAWTHORNE? YES.

UH, DON LAYTON BURWELL.

AROUND MCDANIEL ROME.

UH, DARRYL PRUITT? YES.

YASMIN SMITH.

YEAH, I GOT YOU WRONG.

UM, MICHAEL, SORRY, TRYING TO GET OFF MUTE I'M HERE.

NOT A PROBLEM.

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UH, MICHAEL MANOLA? YES.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ONE, THIS IS REQUESTS FOR POSTPONEMENT AND WITH ROLES.

UH, SO THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING HAD BEEN APPROVED, UM, OKAY.

MOVING ON TO ITEM B

[B-1 Staff and Applicant requests for postponement and withdraw of items posted on this Agenda]

UM, AND, UM, SO ELAINE, DO YOU WANT TO GO OVER THAT, THAT LIST? AND THEN, AND THEN I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.

SO, SO BEFORE WE HIT THAT LIST, WHERE YOU'RE SHORT-STAFFED TONIGHT, UM, WE HAVE, UM, AGAIN, UH, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE PEOPLE.

UM, THE, UM, BUT WE HAVE ACTUALLY, UH, 10, UM, APPOINTED MEMBERS RIGHT NOW SINCE, UH, UM, WE HAVE LOST ONE WITH A RESIGNATION, UH, OF, UH, UH, WILLIAM HODGE.

AND SO A, UM, IN ORDER FOR A, UM, VARIANCE TO PASS, UM, YOU NEED A SUPER MAJORITY, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU'D BE SEVEN AND A HALF, UH, AND IT'S ROUNDED UP TO EIGHT.

SO YOU NEED EIGHT VOTES OUT OF, UH, THE NINE PEOPLE WHO ARE PRESENT.

UM, SO FOR ANY OF THE APPLICANTS THAT ARE ON OUR AGENDA, WHO HAVE NOT ALREADY, UH, UH, REQUESTED, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, BE POSTPONED FOR TONIGHT UNTIL NEXT MONTH, UM, NOW WOULD BE YOUR TIME TO, UM, ADDRESS THAT.

SO LET'S, FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE WE DO THAT, UH, WHILE THEY'RE CONSIDERING WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO OVER THE LIST THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO LANEY, IF YOU COULD DO THAT.

SO RIGHT NOW I CURRENTLY HAVE A WITHDRAWAL FOR ITEM E ONE C 15, SAVE 15 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO 57.

THAT'S NINE OH ONE TERRELL HILL DRIVE.

AND THEN I HAVE A POSTPONEMENT ITEM, C TWO C ONE SIX 2021 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO THREE 25 22.

WHILE THE STREET THAT ONE'S BEING A REQUEST AS BEING THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST IS BEING DONE BY A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION KANPAK.

UM, I HAVE ANOTHER POSTPONEMENT TO, I SEE 15 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO SIX NINE 1230 ROCK CLIFF ROAD.

THAT ONE IS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT TO FEBRUARY 8TH, 2021.

AND THEN THE LAST POSTPONEMENT REQUEST I HAVE IS ITEM D TO C 15 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO SIX SEVEN 1112, HARVARD STREET.

THEN ONE ALSO IS BEING REQUESTED BY A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS WELL.

UM, SO YEAH.

CAN YOU SHOW ME, I'M STANDING ON C2, I'M SORRY AS SHOW YOU AS WHAT.

OH, OKAY.

NO, I DON'T THINK WE HAD THAT IN HERE.

SO C2 IS ONE OF THE POSTPONED ITEMS. ALRIGHT.

UM, ALRIGHT.

SO, UH, JUST TO GO OVER THAT AGAIN.

SO, UH, ITEM, UM, C AS IN CAT ITEM B TWO AS IN DOG, UM, AND ITEM E AS IN EDWARD ARE BEING REQUESTED FOR POSTPONEMENT EITHER, UH, BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE APPLICANT IN ITEM D UH, SORRY.

E AS IN EDWARD E ONE IS BEING WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.

UM, HAS ANY WOMAN THAT IS SIGNED UP TO SPEED? UH, DON, CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK? SO, UM, OUR IT GUY, I HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE EMAILING SAYING THAT THEY'RE STILL IN THE WAITING ROOM AND SOME OF 'EM HAVE BEEN WAITING SINCE FIVE AND THEY'RE NOT IN YET.

IS, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT? BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO RESPOND IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE ROOM.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU COULD BE REFERRING TO THE ATTENDEE LIST IS, HAS EIGHT PEOPLE IN IT RIGHT NOW.

AND I'VE CONFIRMED WITH EACH OF THEM.

I HAVE A DAVID CANCEL LUCY.

HE SAID, HE'S BEEN WAITING SINCE FIVE O'CLOCK SHARP.

I HAVE A JOEL JOELLE NOLAN.

HE SAID HE'S BEEN OUT SINCE BEFORE FIVE 20 WAITING.

AND THEN I HAVE, UM, UH, MARK BOMBERG.

HE SAID HE'S BEEN WAITING ALSO.

THEY ARE ON OUR LIST OF, OF, UH, SQUEAKERS OR POTENTIAL SPEAKERS.

UH, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK I RECOGNIZE THOSE NAMES, UM, FROM WHAT I CONFIRMED EARLIER.

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UH, ALL I CAN SAY TO DO IN THAT SCENARIO IS TO CALL THE NUMBER BACK BECAUSE IT MAY HAVE THROWN THEM INTO AN INFINITE LOOP OF WAITING.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE LIKE STUCK BEHIND THE MUSIC WALL OR WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE, BUT WHAT DID THEY NEED TO DO TO GET IN? SORRY, WHAT DO THEY NEED TO DO TO GET IN? UM, WELL, SINCE WE'RE ALIVE, DON'T SHARE ANY INFORMATION HERE, BUT, UH, THEY JUST NEED TO PUT IT, THEY NEED TO CALL THE NUMBER.

YOU GIVE THEM JUST LIKE YOU DID THE OTHER ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN HERE.

UM, AND THEN PUT IN THAT ACCESS CODE, FOLLOWED BY THE POUND SIGN, AND THEN IT SHOULD LET THEM IN.

AND THEN ONCE I GET THEM IN, I'LL UNMUTE THEM SO THAT THEY CAN SPEAK.

THAT'S DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS.

WE'VE DISCUSSED HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE, IF THE BOARD POSTPONES AN OPPORTUNITY AND WE'VE DISCUSSED HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH AN APPLICANT REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT, BUT HOW SHOULD CITY STAFF THESE POSTPONEMENT REQUESTS THAT ARE FROM AN INTERESTED THIRD PARTY? YEAH.

LIKE FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? YEAH.

SO, SO, UH, IT'S STILL, UH, AT OUR, UM, UH, AT OUR JURISDICTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE, UH, DO THE POST-MOMENT OR NOT, UH, GENERALLY IF, UH, AN APPLICANT OR A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THE PAST HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT THAT WE WILL DO THAT AS A MATTER OF COURTESY.

UM, BUT WE TYPICALLY, SO IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS REQUESTING IT AND THE APPLICANT DOES NOT WANT THAT, TYPICALLY WE WILL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK TO WHY THEY DON'T WANT THE POSTPONEMENT.

AND THEN WE MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THAT.

DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, SIR.

UM, SO, UM, WHILE WE ARE, SO TH THE, THE PEOPLE THAT I SAW THAT COULD NOT GET ON WERE RELATED TO ITEM EQUAL AS IN DAVID ONE AND, UM, D FOUR AND THE SIX, ALL OF THOSE D'S AS IN DAVID, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, ELAINE, YES.

I BELIEVE SO.

SORRY.

I DIDN'T HEAR IT CAUSE I'M TRYING TO CALL SOME PEOPLE.

SORRY.

UH, SO, UH, ITEM, D AS IN DAVID, ONE, DAVID CAMP CLOC, UH, JOEL NOLAN AND MARK BORN BIRD WERE THE THREE NAMES THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

AND NOW I HAVE A RICHARD SUTTLE.

UM, WE HAVE A CLAUDIA OR ALEJANDRO AND LEE.

THEY'RE ALL SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT IN.

SO YOU SAID RICHARD SHUTTLE.

UM, BUT WHAT WAS THE OTHER, UM, RICHARD SUTTLE.

ALL A HONDA .

I'M LOOKING FOR THAT.

IT MIGHT BE CLAUDIA.

IT MIGHT BE CLAUDIA, BUT IT SHOULD SAY CLAUDIA SILHOUETTE OR ALEJANDRO, SO WELL.

OH, OKAY.

ALEJANDRO ON ITEM C ONE.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

UH, DO YOU HAVE AN ITEM NUMBER, MARK WATLEY, C2.

SEE, TOO.

I ONLY HAVE RICHARD SETTLE.

OH, I'M SORRY.

UH, UNDER THE, UH, OPPOSITION.

THAT'S ALL I SEE FOR NOW.

AS AN EDWARD C 15 DAYS, 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO FIVE SEVEN NINE OH ONE TERRELL HILL DRIVE, UM, ASKING FOR WITHDRAWAL AND, UH, ITEM E TO EDWARD TO, UH, SEE 15 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO SIX NINE AT ONE, TWO THREE OH ROCK CLIFF ROAD.

UM, SO THAT MEANS THAT SOMEBODY ON C2 CANNOT SPEAK RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND, UH, BUT D TWO LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOOD.

UH, UH, HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN AND EAT TOO IS BEING, UM, UM, SO LET'S, LET'S HANDLE THOSE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'RE GONNA, UH, LOOK AT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, CONSIDER, UH, ITEMS, I'M SORRY, HERE.

UM, D TO A D AS IN DAVID, THIS IS, UH, UH, A D TWO ITEM, UH, C 15 DASH 20 A DASH ZERO ZERO SIX SEVEN ONE ONE ONE TWO, UH, HARVARD STREET.

UH, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER E ONE

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AND THIS IS A REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT BY THE APPLICANT.

SO WE HAVE, UH, TWO POSTPONEMENTS AND ONE, UM, REQUEST FOR WITHDRAWAL.

UM, IS THERE ANY ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY SIGNED ON THAT IS IN OPPOSITION TO THOSE, UH, ITEMS BEING WITHDRAWN OR POSTPONED AS I'VE NOTED HERE? SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR MIKE, UH, ABAC, UH, A, B, B I N K, UM, MARTHA ZORN'S, UH, ON, UH, ITEMS D TWO AND THEN ON, UM, ITEMS E ONE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK.

THAT'S THE WITHDRAWAL AND E TWO WOULD BE, UH, CARRIE YOU'RE ON.

SEEING THAT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY, UH, SPEAKING TO THAT MOTION TO EITHER WITHDRAW OR PALESTINE AS NOTED.

SO THIS WILL BE ALL AN ITEM D TWO, SORRY, HERE.

I, I, I'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF TO JUGGLE, SO, UH, THIS IS ITEM D TWO E ONE AND E TWO.

UM, AND, UH, SO LET'S, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION BY, UH, VICE CHAIR HAWTHORNE.

IS THERE A SECOND? UH, I SEE DARRELL, UH, PRUITT.

UH THAT'S UH, SO THIS IS AGAIN, UH, THIS IS TO, UH, POSTPONE D TO, UH, AND, UM, AND TO WITHDRAWAL ITEM, UH, IWAN.

UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLE, UH, UH, JESSICA COHEN.

UM, MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

UH, MICHAEL VAN OLIN.

AND KELLY BLOOM? YES.

VERY GOOD.

SO, UM, WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS THAT, UM, WE'RE WAITING FOR THE PEOPLE TO, TO, UM, GET ON BOARD.

SO, UM, THE, UM, OTHER ITEMS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP RELATIVE TO, UH, CONSIDERATION OF POSTPONEMENT, UH, ITEMS, UH, D AS IN DAVID, UM, FOUR AND FIVE, UH, THEY ARE SORT OF SISTER APPLICATIONS.

THEY ARE, UH, UH, UH, ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THIS IS, UM, C 15 PAGE 2021 DASH OH ZERO ZERO ONE SEVEN OH THREE FLETCHER STREET, AND SEE, 15 DAYS, 2021 DASH ZERO, ZERO, ZERO TWO OF SEVEN OH FIVE FLETCHER STREET.

UM, AND, UM, THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE, UH, IS WANTING TO HAVE THESE, UH, HEARD TONIGHT.

DON, CAN I INTERRUPT YOU? CAN WE GIVE THE IT LIKE FIVE MINUTES, 10 MINUTES, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CUSTOMERS THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO GET IN THERE.

THEY'RE CALLING THE NUMBER THAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM.

THEY'RE JUST HAVING TROUBLE.

IT'S THE SAME.

I GAVE EVERYBODY.

AND NO, ONE'S ABLE TO HEAR YOU AND PEOPLE ARE UPSET BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE MEETING AND HOW TO PROCEED.

UM, BOARD ACTIVITY REPORT.

I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE READY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND THEN JUST TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS AND, UM, UM, THAT'S NO, THAT'S FINE.

I, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO DO SOME FRANCHISE ANYWAY, UH, IN THE PROCESS HERE.

UM, SO, UM, IT'S, UH, FIVE, UH, 50, UH, TWO RIGHT NOW.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND COME BACK IN FIVE MINUTES AND SEE IF WE'VE GOT THIS SOLVED THEN.

SO WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

UM, AND THIS IS, UH, THE, UH, DECEMBER 14TH, 2020,

[F-1 Discussion of the December 14, 2020, 2020 Board activity report]

IS THERE ANY

[00:20:01]

DISCUSSION OR CORRECTIONS ON THAT THAT ANYBODY HAS NOW? IT LOOKS GREAT.

[F-2 Discussion and possible action regarding postponed BOA Trainings (including new topic “Area Character”); Staff & PC Coordination Workgroup (Leighton- Burwell, Hawthorne, Von Ohlen & Bailey); and, coordination with COA Planning Staff (including reporting, presentations and general accountability) and Planning Commission (including LDC overlap (e.g. Sign Regulations, etc).]

I'M HEARING NONE.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM F TWO.

UM, THIS IS, UM, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING, UH, POSTPONE B O H TRAININGS.

UM, OKAY.

AND THIS WOULD INCLUDE, UM, UH, DISCUSSIONS OF AREA CHARACTER, UM, AND, UM, ALSO, UH, STAFF IN PLANNING, COMMISSION COORDINATION, UM, WORK GROUP.

WHAT, WHAT THAT WORK GROUP HAD DONE COORDINATION WITH CITY OF AUSTIN PLANNING STAFF, UH, REGARDING REPORTING PRESENTATIONS AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND PLANNING COMMISSIONS, INCLUDING, UM, THE LDC OVERLAP, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SIGN REGULATIONS, WHICH ARE HANDLED ACTUALLY IN THE NEXT ITEM.

SO THAT'S ITEM F TWO.

UM, AND SINCE I HADN'T HEARD FROM ELAINE ON THIS, I'M GUESSING THAT, UH, AGAIN, WHILE WE'RE IN THIS WEBEX, UM, UM, SITUATION THAT, THAT, UH, VLA TRAININGS WILL CONTINUE TO BE POSTPONED UNTIL SUCH A TIME WHEN STAFF FIGURES OUT A WAY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, UM, UH, OUTSIDE OF, UH, OR WITHIN BUSINESS HOURS.

UM, SO, UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? I, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT THE TRAINING MIGHT BE REALLY HELPFUL TO HAVE ON A PLATFORM LIKE THIS, BECAUSE IT MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO SIT IN, UM, AS WE'RE ALL ACUTELY AWARE OF SOCIAL DISTANCING AND SUCH AT THIS POINT, UM, EVEN, EVEN IF THEY WERE, UH, SESSIONS, POWERPOINT SESSIONS THAT COULD GET FLIPPED THROUGH AND HAVE A QUESTION AND ANSWER, PERIOD, I, I JUST THINK, UM, WHILE TRAINING AS A TEAM BUILDING EXPERIENCE TRAINING IS, IS STILL SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO TOGETHER.

I AGREE.

UM, UH, JESSICA, I SAW YOUR HAND UP, I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER OR ONLY YOU, BUT ACTUALLY DISCUSS THIS.

WE WERE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS EARLIER, AND, UH, SHE MENTIONED THAT AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE WE HAVE NEW APPOINTMENTS COMING UP NEXT MONTH THAT MAYBE, UH, IT WOULD BE BEST TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEW APPOINTMENTS ARE ON THE BOARD THAT JUST PUT UP, WE CAN GET THEM TRAINED AS WELL.

I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A, UH, UH, PRUDENT THING TO DO.

I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

I, I THINK THAT'S HER, HER NAME RIGHT NOW IS IT'S JUST TO WAIT AND BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN GETTING PUSHED BACK BECAUSE OF COVERING AND SOCIAL DISTANCING, SINCE WE'RE ON ZOOM, IT MAKES IT MUCH HARDER TO DO THE TRAINING.

AND I THINK, UM, UH, MOST OF THIS COMES OUT OF CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AS WELL, SO.

UH, SO MOVING ON TO ITEM , YOU GUYS MAY HAVE SEEN ALREADY THE, UM, UH, EMAIL THAT I SENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

WELL, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

GO AHEAD.

I DO THINK THAT IF THERE WERE POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS OR MATERIALS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE, I MEAN, I THINK THEY COULD EVEN BE USED REPURPOSE FOR OTHER THINGS, BUT LIKE THE, WE HAD THAT ONE REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION ON LAKE AUSTIN AND ON SHORELINE AND SUCH, AND, AND THAT HASN'T ALTERED SO MUCH, BUT IF, IF THAT INFORMATION WERE AVAILABLE, WHEN WE GOT SOMEBODY NEW, WE COULD GIVE THEM RESOURCES RIGHT AWAY.

HEY, RIGHT.

SINCE MOST OF THIS STUFF DOES GET, UH, RECORDED, UH, THAN ANY NEW MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, UH, COULD GO BACK TO THAT TOO.

BUT I THINK BY THE TIME IT GETS COORDINATED, WE'RE LIKELY TO HAVE THOSE NEW MEMBERS IN PLACES JESSICA SAID.

SO, UM, OKAY.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

[F-3 Discussion and possible action regarding UNO Sign regulations – requesting presentation by City Staff (Jerry Rusthoven).]

UM, SO THIS ITEM HAS BEEN ON OUR RADAR SINCE MAY OF 2020.

IT WAS AGAIN, AN ISSUE THAT, UM, WAS PRECIPITATED BY, UH, HOW THE ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN.

UM, UH, AFTER A DECEMBER, 2019 COUNCIL ACTION TO AMEND THE, YOU KNOW, SIGNED REGULATIONS.

UH, WE'VE BEEN ASKING GARY TO, UH, TALK TO US ABOUT THIS, BUT, BUT REALLY, I THINK THIS IS HUNG UP RIGHT NOW IN CODES AND ORDINANCES AT PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND, UM, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY HAVEN'T ACTED ON IT.

UM, UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE WORK GROUPS CAN STILL GET TOGETHER THE, UH, UM, ONLINE, UM,

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UH, WAYS.

SO I'VE ASKED THEM TO PUT IT ON TO BACK ONTO THEIR RADAR SO THAT, UM, THAT CODES IN THE ORDINANCES CAN VET THIS ISSUE, UM, AND THEN PASS IT ON FOR PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL TO THEN GO TO COUNCIL.

UM, BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT SEEMS TO HAVE LANGUISHED AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE, UM, SIGNED REGULATION, UH, VARIANCE REQUESTS THAT ARE PRECIPITATED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THIS, UM, THIS NEED FOR CORRECTION.

SO ANYWAY, I'M HOPING THAT WE'LL SEE SOME MOVEMENT ON THAT IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

UM, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ITEM AT THREE? YEAH.

SEEING NONE, LET'S GO

[F-4 Discussion and possible action regarding staff guidance on LA (Lake Austin) cases (in particular, the intent of increased setback requirements – environmental or other purpose?)]

ON TO F FOUR.

UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS PARTLY DOVETAILS INTO WHAT WE TALK ABOUT IN ITEM F TWO, WHICH IS, UM, AGAIN, UH, AT, UM, AT PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, THERE IS A CONSIDERABLE STAFF SUPPORT, UH, TO TALK ABOUT INTENT AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, OF WHY AN ORDINANCE MAY BE WRITTEN A CERTAIN WAY TO, UM, PROTECT, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND, UM, AND SO THIS IS, UH, ABOUT, UH, LAKE AUSTIN CASES IN PARTICULAR.

UM, BUT, UM, UH, AGAIN, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME TRAINING ON THAT AND, AND POTENTIALLY SOME STAFF SUPPORT.

UM, I REALIZED THAT WE DON'T WANT STAFF TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE GIVING RECOMMENDATIONS TO US, UH, BUT KNOWING WHY, UM, IT'S IN ORDINANCE WOULD BE, UM, WOULD POTENTIALLY BE HELPFUL.

FIVE, UM, THIS IS, UM, DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON OUR BUDGET CALENDAR.

UH, ANYTHING ELSE ON F FOUR? UM, MOVING ON TO F

[F-5 Discussion and possible action regarding on the FY 2020-21 Budget Calendar - New Workgroup (Cohen, Smith and Von Ohlen) to look at access to BOA for lower income applicants and possible funding to help those without resources to pay current fees.]

UM, AND THIS IS THE ITEM THAT, UM, JESSICA HAD A COHEN HAD SENT OUT A, UM, UM, LETTER OR THE, THE ACTUAL, UM, RESOLUTION, UH, FOR US TO REVIEW PRIOR TO THIS, UH, AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP.

UM, AND THIS IS, UH, THE WORK OF THE WORK GROUP OF JESSICA COHEN, UH, YASMIN SMITH AND MICHAEL VON OLIN.

AND AGAIN, TO LOOK AT ACCESS TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR LOWER INCOME APPLICANTS AND, AND HOW WE MIGHT FUND THAT.

SO, UH, JESSICA, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU OR ONE OF THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE WORK GROUP TO, UM, UH, MAKE ANY DISCUSSIONS.

AND, UM, UM, SO IT'S JUST SOME MINOR WORDING CHANGES THAT WERE SUGGESTED BY MY COUNCILMAN, UH, SENIOR POLICY WRITER.

UM, THE GENERAL CONSENSUS SEEMS TO BE THAT NO ONE REALLY WANTS TO, AT LEAST FROM MY COUNCILMAN.

AND I THINK, UH, FROM YASMIN'S COUNCIL PERSON AS WELL, THEY DON'T REALLY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON IT UNTIL THE BOARD ACTUALLY APPROVES OF THE RESOLUTION AND SUBMITS IT.

SO I THINK THE, THE WORDING, UH, IS GENERIC ENOUGH THAT IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO INSTRUCT THE CITY MANAGER AND, YOU KNOW, IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE RESOLUTION TO FIND A FUNDING AND THEN PUT THE BURDEN OF DEFINING IT ON TO THE CITY STAFF AS, AS THEY LOOK INTO IT DEEPER.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH.

SO WERE THERE, UH, QUESTIONS OF THE WORK GROUP PEOPLE, UH, ON THAT OR ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR, OR SUGGESTIONS OR PROPOSED CHANGES BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH TAKING SOME POSSIBLE ACTION ON THIS AND MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? OKAY.

UH, IS THERE A SECOND, UH, SECOND BAYADA CAROLL.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND HOLD ON, LET ME, UH, LET ME GET ALL THIS WRITTEN DOWN, CAUSE I'M STILL TRYING TO, THIS IS ITEM F FIVE AND WE HAVE A MOTION BY MO LISSA IN A SECOND BY AUDIT.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, TO PASS THIS FORWARD TO, UM, COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION ON HOW WE MIGHT, UM, HELP TO MAKE, UM, UH, FUNDING, UH, HAPPEN FOR FOLKS THAT ARE, UM, UM, ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED.

UH, SO, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLE.

THIS IS TO SUPPORT THE, UH, UM, EFFORTS OF THE WORK GROUP AND, AND THANKS TO THE THREE OF YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO, UH, ABOUT THIS.

CAUSE I THINK IT'S SORELY NEEDED, ESPECIALLY IN THESE TIMES OF COVID GREAT PIECE OF WORK.

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AND I DEFINITELY WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO BOTH, UH, YASMIN AND JESSICA FOR ALL THE WORK THEY DID ON THIS.

I WAS JUST THE OG GUIDANCE GUY.

HE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THEY PRETTY MUCH TOOK THE BALL AND RAN WITH IT AND DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB WITH IT.

SO, EXCUSE ME, WE'LL ASK ELAINE TO PASS THAT, UH, ONTO COUNCIL FOR, UM, UM, HOPEFULLY SOME ACTION OR AT LEAST SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM.

SO THANK YOU.

AND I SAY YOU WANT TO GO FIRST BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS THING.

NO, NO, NO.

YOU GO AHEAD.

I JUST A HUGE THANK YOU TO BOARD MEMBER SMITH AND BOARD MEMBER OF ON OMEN.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MY COUNCIL MEMBER SEEMED VERY ADAMANT ABOUT GOING INTO THIS BASED ON HIS OWN EXPERIENCE.

SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE CAN PUSH THIS RESOLUTION FORWARD.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

UH, GLASSMAN, AND I JUST WANTED TO ECHO THIS, UM, AND FOR, YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD AND FOR ANYONE WATCHING IN THE ETHER, I JUST WANT TO EARN, UM, AS MY COUNCIL MEMBER URGES ME THAT NO MATTER WHAT SPACE OR PLACE YOU'RE IN, UM, YOU ARE ABLE TO MAKE A CHANGE THAT PUSHES THE BALL FORWARD IN EQUITY.

UM, AND I'M REALLY PROUD THAT WE GOT TO DO THAT HERE.

HATS OFF TO YOU GUYS FOR, FOR DOING THAT BECAUSE TH THE, THESE SORTS OF THINGS CAN GET, UH, EASILY OVERLOOKED BY MY FOLKS.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT EFFORT.

SIX, UH, AND AGAIN, THIS IS A WORK GROUP THAT, UH, HASN'T REALLY BEEN ACTIVE THAT I KNOW OF, AND YOU'VE ACTUALLY LOST ONE OF YOUR, YOUR MEMBERS.

UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM, UH, F

[F-6 Discussion and possible action regarding Workgroups Update: Transportation Criteria/Code Recommendations Workgroup (Smith, Hodge & Corral)]

WILL YOU HODGE? UH, SO THIS IS, IS THERE ANYTHING, UH, FROM, UH, YASMINA SMITH'S EROTIC CORRAL RELATIVE TO THIS ITEM? OKAY.

UM, I'M KEEPING IT ON THERE.

JUST KEEP IT ON HER RADAR, UH, JESSICA, TO YOUR HAND.

UH, SORRY.

UM, I HAVEN'T RUN INTO THIS FOR SOME, WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR REPLACING BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE NO LONGER ON THE BOARD WHO ARE PART OF A WORK GROUP? UM, WELL, I, YOU KNOW, IN MY TOURS WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT HAPPEN, BUT, UH, I WOULD THINK THAT, UM, THERE'S, AGAIN, AS LONG AS IT IS LESS THAN A QUORUM, UM, THEN, UM, UH, SOMEONE COULD PUT THEIR NAME IN NOMINATION OR SOMEONE ELSE'S NAME TO BE, UM, ON, ON A WORK GROUP LIKE THAT.

UM, AND AGAIN, THIS WAS, THIS WAS TRIGGERED SOMEWHAT BY, UM, THE GAS ISLANDS, UH, ISSUE THAT HAD COME UP.

UM, BUT WE WERE ALSO TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER REGULAR, UH, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ISSUES THAT COME UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THAT IF WE SAW A LDC, UM, OR, OR, UH, UH, THE, THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL, OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT WE COULD, UH, PUT THAT IN AS A PROPOSAL TO, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT.

SO, UH, JESSICA, WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE WANTING TO BE, UH, ON THIS, OR I DIDN'T MEAN TO PUT YOUR, NO, I, I CAN.

I MEAN, I THINK ON MARQUEE ON TWO OF THE WORK GROUPS THAT THAT BOARD MEMBER HART WAS ON.

UM, BUT IF, IF WE NEED SOMEONE TO FILL THE SPOT IN THIS ONE, I'D BE DEFINITELY GLAD TO STEP IN.

ONE DAY, I'LL BE AS LUCKY I'LL GROW UP TO BE YOU AND MY SON.

WELL, I'LL, I'LL PUT YOU DOWN.

AND, UH, AND AGAIN, AT, AT SOME POINT, IF YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, UH, MEET AGAIN ON THIS, BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING RECENTLY TO, TO THAT I'M AWARE OF TO, UH, UH, ADDRESS THAT, BUT, UM, DID YOU, BY CHANCE HEAR BACK FROM THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA, MANUAL PEOPLE ON THE QUEUE ISLANDS? I DID NOT.

OTHER THAN THAT, THEY HADN'T HEARD ABOUT IT FROM ANYBODY ELSE, INCLUDING STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH KIND OF SURPRISED ME.

AND SO I PUT IT FORWARD TO THEM TOO, TO TALK TO STAKEHOLDERS AND TO LOOK AT IT.

UM, AND, UH, UH, AND THAT, THAT'S THE LAST THAT I'VE HEARD.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH, YEAH.

NOT A PROBLEM.

THE THINGS YOU CAN DO WHEN YOU'RE RETIRED

[00:35:02]

I'M NOT SURE YOU WANT THAT.

SO, ALRIGHT.

[F-7 Discussion and possible action regarding on the draft LDC; BOA LDC Workgroup Report (Workgroup Members: Leighton-Burwell, Hawthorne, Cohen, Hodge and Smith)]

UH, ITEM, UH, F UH, SEVEN, UH, AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE LDC WORK GROUP, WHICH AGAIN, UH, WE CAN PROBABLY TAKE, UH, WILLIAM HODGE OFF OF THAT WORK GROUP.

SO THAT WOULD LEAVE MYSELF, UM, MELISSA HAWTHORNE, UM, JESSICA COHEN AND, UH, YASMIN SMITH ON THAT WORK GROUP.

AND AGAIN, SINCE THE LDC, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME, UH, BEEN SOME MACHINATIONS, UH, BEHIND THE SCENES AT CITY HALL TO TRY TO REVITALIZE THAT EFFORT.

BUT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S NOTHING, UH, FORMALIZED, UH, INPUTTING FORWARD.

UM, THE NEW, A NEW DRAFT, UH, ON THE LDC AT THIS POINT.

UM, SO AGAIN, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING FOR US TO, TO, UH, REACT TO OTHER THAN THE, UH, LENGTHY, UM, REVIEW THAT WE HAD DONE PREVIOUSLY, BUT SHOULD THAT COME BACK ALIVE? I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD NEED TO REINSTATE THAT, UM, THAT WORK GROUP IN ORDER TO DO THAT.

WAS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAD ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? I, SO I WAS WONDERING IF PERHAPS WE COULD, UH, HAVE, HAVE THIS ITEM NOT BE A MONTHLY ITEM UNTIL THAT HAPPENED.

MOTION TO TABLE UNTIL THE PANDEMIC SILVER.

UM, SO, UM, SO THIS WOULD BE TABLING ITEM, UM, F SEVEN.

CAN WE INCLUDE IN THAT, UH, SOME OF THESE OTHER ITEMS THAT CAN YOU TO SHOW UP ON HERE? SO, UH, LET'S GO BACK IF YOU'LL LOOK AT YOUR AGENDA, WHAT ITEMS MIGHT WE, SO F SIX AND F SEVEN.

UM, UH, DO WE WANT TO ADD, WELL, I DON'T KNOW, TRAININGS, I THINK ARE MORE OR HOTTER TOPIC.

SO F F TWO AND, AND, UH, F FOUR.

AND SINCE WE'RE TAKING SOME ACTION ON F THREE THAN, UM, I THINK IT MAY JUST BE ITEMS F SIX, THAT SEVEN.

YES, SIR.

UH, JESSICA, ARE YOU, UH, ITEMS OF SIX AND F SEVEN UNTIL, UH, THE TIME WE'RE MEETING IN PERSON AND GUN? OKAY.

THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME.

UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY JESSICA AND A SECOND BY OTTO.

THIS WILL BE, UH, THAT WE CAN TABLE THESE SO THAT WE CAN PULL THEM OFF OF OUR REGULAR, UM, NEW BUSINESS.

UM, SO JESSICA COHEN, YES.

UM, MICHAEL OLIN? YES.

F EIGHT, AGAIN, I THINK THAT IS ONE THAT WE MIGHT MAKE MIGHT VERY WELL TABLE AS WELL.

AND KELLY BLOOM? YES.

[F-8 Discussion and possible action regarding alternative meeting dates and locations]

UM, THIS IS ALTERNATE OF MEETING DATES AND LOCATIONS.

UM, I THINK THE BOARD'S MADE IT CLEAR THAT WE WANT TO MEET AT CITY HALL WHEN WE CAN, AGAIN, UM, BUT THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IF, IF THERE ARE, IF A LOT OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVE MOVED UP TO THE HIGHLAND, UH, LOCATION, UM, THAT, UM, THAT THAT COULD POSSIBLY MAKE CITY HALL AVAILABLE ON SOME ALTERNATE NIGHTS.

UM, SO, UH, IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD MAYBE JUST TABLE THAT BY ACCLAMATION OF SET.

YES, SIR.

IS THERE ANYBODY HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT? OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADD THAT TO OUR PREVIOUS ITEM AND, UH,

[F-9 Announcements]

ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS AT THIS POINT.

NO, I THINK WE'RE JUST NEED TO CHECK IN WITH OUR WONDERFUL AB PERSON WHO'S PROBABLY HAVING THE DAY, LIKE I HAD.

NONE, THAT'S THE END OF THE NEW BUSINESS? SO, YEAH.

AND THEN ALSO BEFORE WE GET OFF OF THE NEW AGENDA, IS THERE ANY, ANYTHING FOR FUTURE BUSINESS ITEMS OR STAFF REQUESTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WE HAVE BEFORE WE GET OUT OF OUR NEW BUSINESS, SEEING

[00:40:01]

UM, AVI STAFF, ELAINE, ARE WE, WHERE ARE WE AT? SO I HAVE ONE MORE THING.

I'M GOING TO TRY.

IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE ANNOYING BECAUSE I HAVE TO ACTUALLY CALL INTO THIS MEETING, UM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE INTO THE SMALL FIVE PERSON MEETING THAT WE HAVE GOING ON ELSEWHERE.

UM, SO I'M CALLING INTO THIS MEETING ITSELF, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO CREATE A LOOP AND BE VERY NOISY, OR IF IT'S GOING TO WORK.

SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO GIVE IT A SHOT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PORT EVERYTHING OVER TO NEXT MONTH'S MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 8TH, EIGHTH.

SO YES, JUST GIVE ME A MINUTE HERE.

IT WON'T TAKE, IT'LL TAKE LESS THAN FIVE.

I JUST, IT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE SOME NOISE.

YOU'RE DOING GREAT.

YEAH, NO, NO PROBLEM.

I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT.

WELCOME TO WEBEX.

ENTER YOUR ACCESS CODE OR MEETING NUMBER FOLLOWED BY POUND.

ENTER YOUR ATTENDEE ID NUMBER.

SO WE SHOULD BE CONNECTED.

CAN THE OTHERS IN THEIR OWN MEETING HEAR US.

I CAN HEAR YOU.

AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE WE GOT IT.

YEP.

YEAH, I CAN HEAR, I CAN HEAR YOU.

I THINK THIS IS OUR REMAINING CROWD.

THANK YOU, DANIEL.

THANK YOU FOR GETTING THE CRAZY ECHO THROUGH.

HMM.

I CAN HEAR YOU.

I CAN'T HEAR AUSTIN.

UM, MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL HAVE EVERYTHING OFF IN THE BACKGROUND THAT Y'ALL ARE W YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT THE, THE ATX IN VIDEO UP, JUST MAKE SURE IT'S MUTED.

UH, THAT WAY WE DON'T GET ANY ECHOES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

HOPEFULLY THIS WILL WORK.

UM, SO, UH, ONE, UH, I'D LIKE TO REVISIT SOME THINGS NOW THAT WE HAVE EVERYBODY ON BOARD HERE.

UM, SO, UM, ITEM, UM, HE TOO WAS, UH, POSTPONED UNTIL FEBRUARY 8TH AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.

I KNOW HE ONE, UH, WA UH, WELL, LET ME, LET ME READ THAT EVERYTHING IN THE BACKGROUND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT THE, THE ACXIOM VIDEO, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE IT'S NEEDED, UH, THAT WAY WE DON'T GET ANY RECORDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

OH, THAT'S MY VOICE.

THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.

I WAS AFRAID OF THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS WORKING BECAUSE, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS WERE TALKING THE WHOLE TIME.

YOU WERE ALL.

I SEE.

THERE'S IT SEEMS WE HAVE REACHED AN IMPASSE, UNFORTUNATELY.

MAKE THE MOTION TO POSTPONE OUR PIECES TIL NEXT MONTH.

TECHNICAL ISSUE.

I'LL SECOND IT, SINCE THERE'S A GLITCH IN THE MATRIX.

UH, SO, UH, D DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING, UH, ON THE, ON THE BOARD TO SAY ABOUT THAT? BECAUSE, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE, WE'RE GOING TO GET THESE SOLVED IN THE INTERIM.

TO TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE, UH, THE CASES, UH, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UH, THE SIGN, NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, THE VARIANCES, NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND, UM, THE VARIANCES PREVIOUS PUBLIC, UH, SORRY, PREVIOUS POSTPONEMENTS, UM, UNTIL, UH, OUR FEBRUARY 8TH MEETING, UH, DUE

[00:45:01]

CAN YOU MAKE SURE, ENSURE ME ABSTAINING ON ITEM C2? UM, I'M SORRY, UH, ON, WENT ON TO, UH, ABSTAINING.

OH, YES.

AND THEN, AND THAT, UH, BLAZER WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM ITEM C TWO.

SO MR. CHAIRMAN, YES.

AND BEFORE WE BREAK ALSO ITEM D FOUR WAS DENIED BY AUSTIN ENERGY.

SO I THINK, UH, MAYBE THEY SHOULD, IF THEY CAN HEAR US, THEY NEED TO RESOLVE THAT BEFORE BRINGING IT BACK ON CORRECTLY, BECAUSE WITH A DENIAL FROM AUSTIN, ENERGY IS ALL ALMOST AN INSTANT MADEC DENIAL BY THE BOARD.

AND I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT AT VERY LEAST WE POSTPONE THAT THOSE TWO CASES TONIGHT, UM, RELATIVE TO THAT.

SO THIS, UH, IS, UH, A VOTE, UH, NOT ON THE CASES, BUT TO POSTPONE ALL OF OUR, UH, ACTIVE CASES THAT WE WERE GOING TO HEAR TONIGHT, UH, OTHER THAN THE ONES THAT WE'VE ALREADY ACTED ON, UM, UNTIL NEXT TIME.

AND WE HAD A MOTION BY JESSICA AND WHO DID THE SECOND, UH, UH, OKAY.

UM, PICK ONE.

UM, OKAY.

SECOND BY MICHAEL BONO.

I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM THAT.

SO THIS IS POSTPONE, UM, THE, JUST GOING OUT TO CAROLL.

SORRY.

UH, MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

AND A THANK YOU.

IT PERSON THAT, I DON'T KNOW YOUR FIRST NAME.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.

I KNOW YOU MUST BE FRUSTRATED, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU HANGING IN.

UM, MICHAEL JENOLAN YES.

UM, SO, UH, THAT, UH, ENDS OUR AGENDA THEN FOR TONIGHT.

UM, AND AGAIN, YES, I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE ELAINE AND, UH, DIANA'S AND, UH, AB STAFFS OF EFFORTS TO TRY TO, TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

AND, UH, TECHNOLOGY HAS GOTTEN THE BETTER OF US ONE MORE TIME.

UM, SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL, UH, SHOWING UP TONIGHT AGAIN, HAPPY NEW YEAR.

AND, UH, WE WILL ADJOURN OUR MEETING AS OF SIX 38.