Jan 13, 2021 Zero Waste Advisory Commission

UH, THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE APPROVAL OF THE DECEMBER 17TH SPECIAL CALLED MEETING MINUTES.

SO THERE IS NO CITIZENS COMMUNICATION MOVING OFF AND,

[1.Approval of the December 17th, 2020, SPECIAL CALLED Meeting Minutes]

AND, UH, I HAVE TO SAY STAFF, THIS WAS WELL, WELL DONE.

I MEAN, THIS IS LIKE YOU WOULD MAKE A STENOGRAPHER JEALOUS, VERY THOROUGH MINUTES AND, UH, COMMISSIONERS I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY MOTIONS OR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE COMMISSIONER GOOD TO, TO SHOW MOVES APPROVAL.

I HEAR A SECOND.

THAT WAS OKAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

CAN I HAVE, I'M SORRY.

SO KATHY SECOND COHIBA MOVE APPROVAL.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES HEARING NO DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, I GUESS, KIND OF WAVE A HAND SO WE CAN SEE IT YON.

YOU CAN SCREAM OUT AT US.

UH, MOVING RIGHT ALONG ITEM TWO A IS A DISCUSSION ACTION ITEM ON THE ELECTRONICS RECYCLING RCA THAT, UH, I THINK ANDY DAWSON WAS GOING TO, TO PREVIEW FOR US.

HEY, CAN YOU HEAR THIS? OH, AND WE'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF BREAKING UP THERE HANDY.

SORRY.

UM, I THINK, UH, MR. DAWSON'S MICROPHONE IS HAVING SOME ISSUES HE MAY NEED TO RECONNECT OR MAYBE TROUBLESHOOT THE MICROPHONE THAT HE'S USING.

NO, STILL NOTHING I WOULD SAY.

YEAH, LET'S DO IT AGAIN.

COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO B, WE CAN COME BACK TO ITEM TWO, A THAT'D BE OKAY WHILE WE'RE FIXING THE DIFFICULTIES HERE.

DEFER THAT ITEM ALSO UNTIL LATER ON.

SO, UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM TWO B, THAT IS THE, UH, PROJECT TRANSITION RATIFICATION RCA, AND I THINK MS. MS. WHITNEY WAS GOING TO, UH, DISCUSS THAT WITH US.

WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

NO AUDIO, UH, TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

HELLO? HELLO.

YOU HAVE WEBEX DUMP IT NOW.

SHIT.

THAT'S

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ALL RIGHT, GUYS.

CHRISTINE, CAN WE, OKAY.

WELL, YOU, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER'S, LET'S DO THIS.

LET'S

[2. c). Discussion and Action: Reconvene the Construction and Demolition Ordinance Reform Subcommittee to discuss Infrastructure Deficiencies in Austin Area Marketplace for Viable Construction and Demolition Processing Options]

AND LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO C I THINK WE DO.

WE DO HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS WANTING TO SPEAK TO ITEM TWO C, WHICH IS THE, UH, DISCUSSION ACTION ON RECONVENING, THE C AND D SUB COMMITTEE, ADAM GREGORY.

DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS? UH, YES, I DO.

UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN.

UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

YOU'RE WORKING.

IT'S ADAM GREGORY, REPRESENTING TEXAS DISPOSAL SYSTEMS, HAPPY NEW YEAR.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CONSIDERING TO RECONVENE THE C AND D SUB COMMITTEE.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO.

AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE URGENT NEED FOR SEVERAL ISSUES TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY FORWARD FLORIDA TO THE COUNCIL FOR ACTION.

THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

IF, IF THE C AND D RECYCLING PROGRAM IN AUSTIN IS GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE OF SUCCESS AS THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE OCTOBER OF 2016 AND THE SUB COMMITTEE HAS NOT MET SINCE THE SUMMER OF 17, I BELIEVE IT IS HIGH TIME AND BROUGHT SOME SCRUTINY TO THE ORDINANCE, THE MARKET, AND IMPACTS BOTH GOOD AND BAD.

THE PROGRAM HAS HAD YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THE HISTORY OF SANDY RECYCLING EFFORTS IN AUSTIN, UH, WHILE THERE ARE CERTAINLY A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT YOU AND THE CITY CAN BE PROUD OF.

THERE ALSO HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF FAILURES THAT HAVE NOT ONLY COMPROMISED.

THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROGRAM HAVE CREATED ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS THAT OUTWEIGH THE PERCEIVED BENEFITS OF THE SANDY RECYCLING PROGRAM.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ISSUES CURRENTLY ONGOING THAT MAKE IT UNWISE FOR AN HONEST BUSINESS, WITH A LONG-TERM VISION TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN SANDY RECYCLING INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, THESE ISSUES INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO, UH, CONFLICTING LANGUAGE WITHIN THE ORDINANCE REGARDING CORE REQUIREMENTS, ORIGIN RATE CALCULATION, UM, WHAT APPEARS TO BE A TOTAL LACK OF ENFORCEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY REGARDING FACILITY AUTHORIZATIONS AND OPERATIONAL COMPLIANCE.

WHAT MUST LIKELY BE THE FABRICATION OF FAVORABLE DIVERSION REPORTING BY PROCESSORS WHO APPEAR TO DIVERT OR RECOVER VERY LITTLE RECYCLED MATERIAL? WHAT APPEARS TO BE ILLEGAL DISPOSAL OF RESIDUALS AND WHAT APPEARS TO BE ILLEGAL DUMPING OF UNPROCESSED C AND D MATERIAL.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S AMPLE EVIDENCE AND EXAMPLES OF EACH OF THESE PROBLEMS, UH, WHICH WE WILL PRESENT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE IF GIVEN COMMUNITY PRIMARY PRIMARY GOAL OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE SHOULD BE TO DETERMINE HOW BEST TO CREATE ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY TRAVIS COUNTY AND THE TCEQ IN ORDER TO BRING AN APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE VARIOUS FACILITIES THAT CLAIM TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF RECYCLING C AND D MATERIALS, TDS ARE EAGER TO PARTICIPATE WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THE STAFF AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT DEFICIENCIES IN THE ORDINANCE.

AND THEN THE PROGRAM OVERALL PDS HOLDS ALL THE REQUIRED AUTHORIZATIONS.

WE HAVE ABUNDANT SPACE AND WE ARE EAGER TO EXPAND OUR C AND D RECYCLING OPERATIONS, BUT WE SIMPLY CANNOT JUSTIFY THESE INVESTMENTS, GIVEN THE CURRENT NATURE OF THE MARKET AND THE LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION THAT CURRENTLY CHARACTERIZES THE MARKET IN CENTRAL TEXAS, WE LOOK FORWARD, WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO PROVIDING THE REGION WITH RESPONSIBLE SANDY RECYCLING SERVICES, ONCE MARKET CONDITIONS WEREN'T DOING SO HOPEFULLY IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.

UH, SO IN CONCLUSION, I WOULD SIMPLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE, TO RECONVENE THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, SO WE CAN ALL GET DOWN TO SOME VERY IMPORTANT WORK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER SOME, ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU, ADAM, APPRECIATE THAT.

WELL-SPOKEN BY THE WAY, UH, THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA WAS AS STATED TO RECONVENE THIS SUBCOMMITTEE WITH THE GOAL OF HAVING COMMISSION MEMBERS, HOPEFULLY FEEL COMFORTABLE VOLUNTEERING FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE, HENCE, OFFICIALLY DESIGNATE THOSE MEMBERS AT OUR FEBRUARY GATHERING AND HOPEFULLY GET THIS PROCESS STARTED SHORTLY THEREAFTER, BUT, UH, YES, YOU BROUGHT UP A LOT OF, A LOT OF GOOD POINTS AND A YES OR THERE HAS TO BE SOME REVISIONS MADE TO THIS, SOME CONSISTENCY WITH THE, I MEAN, NOT JUST THE REPORTING, BUT THE ACTUAL ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES THAT COULD BE THAT WE COULD BE FACING LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT, UH, NONETHELESS, THAT THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. GREGORY, THAT'D BE, FEEL FREE TO ASK THOSE, HAVING, HAVING HEARD NONE AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS, THIS ITEM IS ON THIS AGENDA TONIGHT TO HOPEFULLY GET YOUR, UH, GET YOUR

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INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING ON THIS COMMITTEE AND, UH, HELP ME HELP ME HERE PLEASE.

STAFF.

I THINK WE ORIGINALLY HAD THREE MEMBERS ON THAT COMMITTEE.

IS THAT CORRECT? STAFF? ALRIGHT, JASON MCCOMBS AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY.

IT SHOULD BE THREE, THREE MEMBERS.

THANK YOU, JASON, WHO WAS PREVIOUSLY IN THIS GROUP? UM, IN THE C AND D THAT JASON MCCOMBS, AGAIN, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE RECORDS.

I REMEMBER WHAT JERRY WAS AND I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR RECORDS THAT YOU'VE MADE.

THEY MADE UP A GROUP.

I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT.

I CAN GET THAT TO YOU.

THANK YOU, JASON.

BUT ANYWAY, COMMISSIONERS AGAIN, THIS IS ON OUR RADAR RADAR NOW, AND I'D LOVE TO, TO HAVE SOME VOLUNTEERS COME FORWARD, COME FEBRUARY SO THAT WE CAN GET THE PROCESS STARTED.

AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD HERE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MR. GREGORY DID BRING UP SOME VALID CONCERNS WITH, WITH THE ORDINANCE.

AND AGAIN, JUST FOR THE SHEER CONSISTENCY OF OUR ZERO WASTE GOALS HERE IN AUSTIN, IT WOULD BE A ONE THING TO FIX THIS AND TO KEEP IT MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR GET IT MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, I SHOULD SAY.

BUT, UH, ANYWAY, ANY OF THE THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ITEM, BUT IT, ARE YOU, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO VOLUNTEER NOW, OR YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CALL FOR US IN FEBRUARY.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO VOLUNTEER NOW, THAT WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL.

THAT WOULD, UH, EXPEDITE THIS NIGHT.

I WILL, UM, I'M GOING TO VOLUNTEER, BUT I'M GOING TO PUT MYSELF IN LAST PLACE BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA.

SO IF OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS STEP IN FOR THE THREE SPOTS, I'M ABSOLUTELY HAPPY TO BOW OUT.

I'M NEEDED.

I WILL VOLUNTEER AMANDA.

AND I THINK AT ONE TIME Y'ALL AND YOU HAD TO EXPRESS SOME INTEREST IN THE CONTENT.

I'M, I'M INTERESTED.

HOWEVER, I'M, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I WORK AT JIGSAW, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL IT TAKES SO YOU CAN WORK.

WE HAVE TWO AND ONE MORE AND COMMISSIONER GATTUSO.

IS THAT? YEAH, SO I'LL BE THE, ON THIS AS WELL.

SO WE HAVE OUR THREE VOLUNTEERS, I SHOULD SAY.

SO WE SHOULD BE LITERALLY IN A POSITION TO BEGIN COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND, AND, UH, KEN, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR, FOR STAFF TO KIND OF COORDINATE THIS WITH SOME, UH, I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS VIA ZOOM OR WEBEX, SO SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE CAN GET THAT STARTED.

THAT'D BE WONDERFUL GUYS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR VOLUNTEERING.

I APPRECIATE THIS.

UH, LET'S SEE, MOVING ON.

I HAVE, HOPEFULLY WE'VE FIXED THE GLITCHES, THE, UH, TECHNICAL GLITCHES WITH ITEM TWO, A AND TWO B.

DO WE NEED TO VOTE TO APPROVE THAT OF THOSE THREE COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERED THEN LET'S DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT, THOUGH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE THREE VOLUNTEERS, AMANDA MUSSINO YON, STIER, AND KATHY.

GOOD TO, SO COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO VOTE ON, I GUESS, A VERBAL VOTE ON THAT COMMITTEE BEING FORMED THIS EVENING WITH THE GOAL OF, OF, UH, FUTURE MEETINGS BEGINNING, HOPEFULLY IN FEBRUARY.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

CO-OP SORRY.

I'M GOING TO SAY YOU'RE MAKING THE MOTION.

I CAN ATTRIBUTE THE MOTION TO ME IF YOU'D LIKE.

YEAH, I GUESS WE NEED A SECOND.

SO I'LL I'LL I THINK I SPURTED OUT A DAMN MOTION HERE.

SO YOUR SECOND AND THAT'S OKAY.

AND THAT'S IT.

LET'S GO FOR IT, BUT NONETHELESS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR WAVE THERE'S SOMETHING OR SCREAM OR ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THINK WE CAN OFFICIALLY MOVE ON TO ITEM HOPEFULLY TWO EIGHT OR YES.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WIFE FOR THE REMINDER.

ALL RIGHT, GUYS.

[2. a). Discussion and Action: Austin Resource Recovery (ARR) Electronics Recycling Recommendation for Council Action (RCA) —Andy Dawson]

COMMISSIONERS.

I'M SORRY.

THIS IS ANDY DAWSON.

AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY.

UH, I CAN SPEAK ON TWO-WAY IF YOU ALL CAN HEAR ME, ANDY.

YOU'RE DOING GREAT SOUNDED WONDERFUL, BUDDY.

THANK YOU ALL RIGHT.

MUCH BETTER, MUCH BETTER.

UM, AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY IS RE REQUESTING FAVORABLE RECOMMENDATION FOR AWARDING A COMPUTER AND LAPTOP RECYCLING CONTRACT DO UNITED ELECTRONICS RECYCLING.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

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UH, THIS IS A REVENUE CONTRACT WITH EXPECTED REVENUE OF $66,000 PER YEAR.

FOR REFERENCE, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD, UH, CAME FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR THAT WE HAVE ANY KIND OF DATA OR A FULL DATA.

UH, IN 2019, WE RECYCLED 67 TONS OF LAPTOPS AND COMPUTERS AND, UH, COMPUTING DEVICES LIKE THAT IN FY 2019.

UM, SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER COMMISSIONERS.

ANY QUESTION QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, I KNOW, UH, A PRESENTATION A WHILE BACK ABOUT, UH, LIKE RE-PURPOSING SOME COMPUTERS, I ASSUME THAT, THAT THESE COMPUTERS THAT ARE BEING RECYCLED, THAT THEY ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRULY NOT USABLE ANYMORE IN TERMS OF REPURPOSING, IS THAT ACCURATE? ARE THEY GOING THROUGH THAT PROGRAM FIRST THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

ALL THESE CITY ASSETS THAT ARE ABLE TO BE RECYCLED? UH, WE, WE HAVE A FEW STIPULATIONS ON WHICH DEPARTMENTS, COMPUTERS, LAPTOPS, DEVICES, WHATEVER ARE NOT ABLE TO BE RECYCLED LIKE, UH, APD AND AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH WILL NOT HAVE ANY OF THEIR COMPUTERS OR DEVICES.

UH, UH, I'M SORRY, UH, WILL NOT HAVE ANY OF THEIR DEVICES RE UM, SENT TO THAT PROGRAM JUST DUE TO SECURITY CONCERNS, BUT ALL OF THE OTHER CITY ASSETS THAT ARE SUITABLE FOR, UM, THAT ARE SUITABLE FOR REPURPOSING, UH, WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT PROGRAM THAT IS SET UP BY THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS, UH, PROGRAM THAT DOES REPURPOSE THEM TO, UH, THEY HAVE A PROGRAM WITH, UH AISC.

I GUESS THEN A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

UM, IN TERMS OF THOSE, UH, COMPUTERS THAT CAN'T BE, UH, YOU KNOW, USED FOR THAT DONATION PURPOSE, IS THERE A SET SCHEDULE THAT THEY ARE REPLACED ON OR ARE THEY REPLACED AS NEEDED? UM, I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO A LOT OF THAT.

THAT, THAT'S A, UM, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, UM, THAT'S, UH, UH, CTM, UH, TYPE OF QUESTION WHERE, WHETHER THERE IS A REFRESH SCHEDULE, UH, FIVE OR SIX YEARS THAT IT'S, IT'S JUST ON A SET SCHEDULE.

I, MYSELF JUST GOT A NEW LAPTOP A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO BECAUSE MINE HAD, YOU KNOW, HIT THAT, BUT THAT TIMELINE.

AND DO YOU KNOW FOR YOUR, IN YOUR CASE, HOW OLD YOUR MACHINE WAS? UH, YEAH, MINE WAS MINE WAS SIX YEARS OLD, UM, THAT, BUT IT WAS STILL FUNCTIONAL.

UM, SO IT WAS JUST ON THE SCHEDULE TO BE REPLACED.

SO THAT ONE WOULD BE KIND OF AN IDEAL MACHINE TO GO OUT TO AISC.

WORKING SOMETIMES IT'S NOT, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT.

I MEAN, THE REASON I'M ASKING IS, UH, YOU HOPEFULLY ARE AWARE OF THE, THE CLIMATE, UH, DOLPHIN CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, WHICH IS YET TO BE ADOPTED, BUT I AM CONFIDENT WILL BE ADOPTED PLACES, UH, YOU KNOW, A MUCH STRONGER EMPHASIS ON, UM, YOU KNOW, ELIMINATING WASTE, REDUCING CONSUMPTION, AS OPPOSED TO JUST RECYCLING.

YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT IF SOMETHING IS AT THE END OF ITS LIFE, WE SHOULD RECYCLE IT AS OPPOSED TO GETTING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IT IN THE LANDFILL.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED TO ME SOUNDS LIKE A BIT OF A WASTEFUL PRACTICE FROM A RESOURCE AND FRANKLY, A FISCAL STANDPOINT.

UM, AND I'M GLAD THAT SOMEBODY WILL AT LEAST GET TO USE YOUR COMPUTER.

UM, BUT I'M JUST THINKING IF WE HAVE DEPARTMENTS THAT UNDERSTANDABLY, UM, ARE NOT ABLE TO DONATE THEIR, THEIR EQUIPMENT AND UNDERSTAND THE PRIVACY CONCERNS THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M JUST WAGGING AT THAT.

I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S FINE TO HAVE A SET SCHEDULE FOR LIKE, FOR CHECKING IT OUT, BUT I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT WHOEVER THE RIGHT PERSON IS TO COMMUNICATE WITH US, I WOULD LIKE TO START A CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT TOTAL USABLE LAPTOPS AREN'T JUST GETTING SENT TO BE RECYCLED BECAUSE THEY HIT IT A DATE.

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S

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I'M JUST, UH, YEAH, JUST RAISING THAT AS A, AS AN ISSUE THAT COMES OUT OF THE RECENT CLIMATE PLANNING PROCESS.

OF COURSE.

AND, AND I, I MAY BE SPEAKING OUT OF TURN FOR, UH, THE CTM DEPARTMENT.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THEIR, THEIR THING.

I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

SO I DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK FOR THAT PROGRAM OR ANYTHING.

COMMISSIONER, THIS IS KEN SNYDER FROM AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY, FOLLOW UP WITH CTM TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR REPLACEMENT CYCLE IS AND WHAT THEY, WHAT PARAMETERS THEY USE TO SET THAT CYCLE, UH, AND REPORT THAT BACK TO YOU.

THANK YOU, KEN.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS? I'M ANDY DO IT.

GO AHEAD.

UM, THERE IS, I WILL SAY FROM INDUSTRY PRACTICE, UH, THREE TO THREE TO FOUR YEAR LIFE CYCLES, AREN'T, UM, SURPRISING WITH LAPTOPS BECAUSE YOU BEGIN TO GET DIMINISHING MARGINAL RETURNS FOR PRODUCTIVITY.

IF THINGS START TO, UM, BECOME TOO OLD TO GET LEBRON REASONS, SOFTWARE AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN MANY CASES.

SO MAYBE YOU MAY BE RIGHT TO SAY THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE A HARD AND FAST SCHEDULE, HOWEVER YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE TO STRUGGLE TO DO THEIR JOB DAY TO DAY, JUST TO SAVE A LAPTOP IS IT'S A BIT OF A CONCERN, SO INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT YOU UNCOVER.

UM, YEAH, I AGREE WITH THAT.

I DON'T, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE ON A MACHINE THAT'S BOGGED DOWN AND NOT FUNCTIONAL.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE ONCE OR TWICE AND IT'S NOT FUN, SO, BUT YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS HEARING NONE.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THIS PRESENTED TO US COMMISSIONER WHITE MOVES APPROVAL.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GETS INTO, SO, ALL RIGHT.

UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL SECOND.

UH, ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY THOUGHTS HERE? WE NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE WAVE YOUR HAND OR DO SOMETHING WONDERFUL GUYS.

MOVING ALONG GUYS, NEXT ITEM, HOPEFULLY CHRISTINE, YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THE TECHNICAL GLITCHES DONE WELL.

AND LET'S SEE,

[2. b). Discussion and Action: Project Transition Ratification RCA—Christine Whitney]

SO I AM HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE BROWNSVILLE LOAN SAID GRANT PROGRAM, AND THIS SLIDE SHOWS START AS IT'S GOING TO COME UP THE POWERPOINT.

UM, ANYWAY, BASICALLY WE PROVIDE THROUGH EPA GRANT SENDING FREE ASSESSMENTS, AND WE ALSO PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO, UM, HELP THEM MEET REGULATORY STANDARDS, TO KNOW WHAT TCEQ OR EPA MIGHT REQUEST OR REQUIRE.

UM, SO WE, THE ETA FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS HAVE HAD A LOAN AND SUB GRANT PROGRAM, AND WE ARE NOW POISED TO PROVIDE OUR FIRST SUB-BRANDS.

AND WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE EITHER, UM, A LOAN TO NON-PROFITS OR THE SUB GRANT THAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT A SEPARATE POINT, WHICH IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

AND PROJECT TRANSITIONS PROVIDES, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HIV OR AIDS.

AND THERE WAS A 1960S BUILDING THAT HAD QUITE A BIT OF HIS BEST IN IT, AND THEY WANTED TO DEMOLISH IT TO REDEVELOP.

AND IN ORDER TO DO THIS, THEY NEED TO ABATE ALL THE, AS BEST TO FIRST.

AND THEY WERE VERY SURPRISED AT THE $200,000 STICKER PRICE.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER THEM A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS GRANT, UM, PART OF OUR $820,000 LOAN GRANT PROGRAM FROM THE EPA ALSO ENABLES US TO MAKE UP TO $420,000 WORTH OF SUB GRANTS.

AND ANYWAY, INSTEAD OF THE 22, UH, HOUSING UNITS, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE 40 NEW UNITS AS WELL AS SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

IF YOU CAN MOVE ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE WE HAD COMPLETED, AND THEY'RE IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE INITIAL

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ELIGIBILITY AND ASSESSMENT WORK FOR THEM.

AND THEN WE MOVED INTO CLEANUP PLANNING IN THE SECOND QUARTER, THEN ABATEMENT IS, UM, COMMIT WELL LIKE COMMENCE STEP BY 20, AND THEY WILL BE READY TO REDEVELOP IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO.

SO ANYWAY, WE BASICALLY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS GRANTS AND LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FOR THAT.

AND AFTERWARDS THERE IS THE LOVELY NEW BUILDING THAT THEY WILL HAVE AND WITH THE DOUBLE CAPACITY, OUR FAMILIES, AND AGAIN, INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HIV WELL EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND IN THE, IN NEED OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? THOUSAND DOLLARS CAN GO THAT FAR? YEAH, I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT THE PROGRAM, IF THAT'S OKAY.

COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS, UM, FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROGRAM? UH, HOW DID THEY HEAR ABOUT IT AND HOW FAR ALONG DO THEY HAVE TO BE IN THEIR, IN THEIR OWN SCOPING AND DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THIS KIND OF A GRANT OR, OR, YOU KNOW, LOAN PROGRAM, UM, FOR JUST A CLEANUP LOAN OR GRANT PROCESSOR AS WELL? WE, WE, UM, WE GET PEOPLE AT ALL STAGES AND WE HAVE A APPLICATION THAT'S ONLINE, BUT WE ALSO TAKE APPLICATIONS JUST OVER THE PHONE OR VIA EMAIL.

SO ANY OF THOSE ROUTES WORK AND, AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE PROSPECTIVE APPLICANT IS LOOKING FOR, UM, IT DOES, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HELP THEM OUT AT ANY STAGE, BUT IF IT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR CLEANUP ASSISTANCE AND NOT THIS TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, THEN WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW THAT CONTAMINATION AND THE EXTENSIVE, THE CONTAMINATION, THEY HAVE TO BE THAT FAR ALONG AT THAT POINT GENERAL, IS THIS, IS THIS WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER LIKE A LARGER PROJECT? LIKE WHAT'S THE RANGE OF, UM, WHAT THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE GETTING AN INITIAL ASSESSMENT? HOW MUCH IS THAT VERSUS SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WHERE IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY ASSISTING WITH THE CLEANUP? I THINK THE MOST THAT WE'VE EVER SPENT ON ONE SITE, UM, FOR ONE, ONE ENTITY WAS $87,000.

UM, AND THE CLEANUPS CANNOT BE MORE THAN 200,000.

SO WE CAN'T PROVIDE ANY MORE THAN $200,000 TO ONE ENTITY.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

COMMISSIONERS, ANY OF THE THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS? VERY, NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? UH, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION HERE.

COMMISSIONER STIER MOVES, APPROVAL, DIRE SECONDS, COMMISSIONER MUSSINO SECONDS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM, ERIN ARIE, NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AGAIN, WAVE OR DO SOMETHING.

THANK YOU FOLKS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, MS. WHITNEY FOR THE PRESENTATION.

HERE, THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM A, WHAT IS IT TO D WHICH IS LITERALLY JUST A DISCUSSION ON THE, UH, ZERO WASTE ADVISORY COMMISSION, PROPOSED RETREATS AND, UH, DIRECTOR SNIPES.

GREAT GUYS.

MOVING ALONG

[2. d). Discussion and Action: ZWAC Retreat]

I THINK YOU CAN HAVE HAD A BRIEF THOUGHT.

THAT WE WOULD DO, BUT MORE ABOUT THE STRUCTURE THAT WE WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH GOING FORWARD.

RECOVERY.

UM, JUST A FEW THOUGHTS ON THE, UH, RETREAT THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE.

WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO WITH THAT IS JUST, UH, START OUT THE NEW YEAR WITH A REVIEW OF THE BYLAWS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S ON THE, ON THE SAME PAGE, WE HAD HOPED TO BE ABLE TO CATCH SOME OF THE NEW MEMBERS AS WELL.

UM, SO WE NEED TO PROBABLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, BUT ALSO JUST TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, UH, HOW WE PRESENT INFORMATION, UH, HOW WE RECEIVE INFORMATION, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE GETTING WHAT THEY NEED IN A FORMAT THAT'S BENEFICIAL OR MOST USEFUL.

AND ALSO TO KIND OF FOCUS OUR YEARS, WE START TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE, THE BIGGER TICKET ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON.

SO THE, THE INTENT IS NOT TO BE A WORKING SESSION TO DISCUSS THE TYPICAL BUSINESS

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ANY QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, COMMENTS.

THE LAST THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT COVID IS THAT WE WERE PLANNING TO DO IT, UH, SOMETIME THIS MONTH BETTER TO PUSH IT OUT TO NEXT MONTH, PROBABLY TOWARDS THE END OF THE MONTH.

THAT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY A, WOULD THIS ESSENTIALLY BE A LONG CONFERENCE CALL? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? WE'VE RETRIEVED THE WEBEX.

MR. SNACK.

THANK YOU FOR THAT OVERVIEW.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO, YEAH, IT SOUNDS I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT TOO.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA.

ON, ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE, I'M WONDERING SINCE, UM, WE'RE NOT CONDUCTING OFFICIAL BUSINESS, IT'S A RETREAT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, LIKE BRAINSTORMING SESSION.

ARE WE TIED TO USING WEBEX OR MIGHT WE USE A DIFFERENT PLATFORM? I'M I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN FIND OUT COMMISSIONER, UM, WE WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE RULES MIGHT BE BECAUSE IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL WORKING SESSION AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER YET.

SO AS SOON AS WE GET THAT, WE'LL SHARE THAT AND GET IT OUT TO CUTE.

I LOVE THE IDEA.

VERY TOUCHY, FEELY, ALL ELECTRONIC, I GUESS, BUT, UH, HEY KEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND AGAIN, THE PROPOSED TIME WOULD BE LADDER FEBRUARY.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE'RE, UH, WE'RE MOVING ALONG HERE QUICKLY.

UH, AS YOU HOPEFULLY FORMALIZE THIS AND FINALIZE IT, GET THE WORD OUT TO US, WE CAN CERTAINLY PLAN THAT, BUT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THIS COULD BE EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL.

WE HAVE DONE THIS IN THE PAST WHEN I GUESS, UH, WHO IS EITHER OH NINE OR 10 THAT WE NEED, THAT WE HAD A, UH, THAT RETREATS AND IT WAS ACTUALLY OVER ON THAT.

WHAT A BROTHER FOR IT, I THINK IT WAS, AND THAT WAS AGAIN, SOMETIME AGO, SOME FORMALITIES THAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH OPEN MEETINGS ISSUES, BUT NONETHELESS, THEY WERE, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT AND LITERALLY JUST TO HAVE A, A GOOD, UH, FACE-TO-FACE SESSION WITH THE COMMISSION AND STAFF, BUT NONETHELESS, THANK YOU CAM FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UH, THIS IS, UH, ADDRESSING SOMETHING THAT AMANDA JUST TALKED ABOUT AND I'VE BEEN ON A, UH, A ZOOM CALL AND ALL THE PEOPLE SPACES FOR, YOU COULD SEE THEM AS, AS THEY HAD A CONVERSATION.

I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD DO THAT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE INTIMATE THAT WAY AND HELPFUL.

YEP.

EITHER THAT OR GOOGLE MEET.

THEY'RE VERY EFFECTIVE IN THAT AND MIGHT ALLOW US TO DO YEAH.

WELL, WE'LL CHECK INTO THAT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ON THIS ONE AS WELL.

I MEAN, I HATE WEBEX, BUT YOU CAN CHANGE.

GET BACK TO US ON, ON THE, UH, FORMALITIES HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

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WE'RE DOWN TO, I GUESS OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS STAFF BRIEFINGS AND WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED ONE OF THE ITEMS ON THERE CAN MAKE A QUICK UPDATE ON, UH, THE BUDGET WORK, UH, BECAUSE IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE VICTORIA READY? YES, I'M HERE.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES.

WOULD COME TOGETHER AND DISCUSS SOME, UM, YOU KNOW, BUDGETARY IMPACTS, UH, OF, UM, OF, UH, LONG RANGE AND SHORT, SHORT RANGE, UH, NEEDS THIS YEAR.

WONDERFUL.

SO YEAH, I, I, UM, REALLY JUST KINDA WANTED TO, UH, ENSURE THAT THAT THOSE WAC COMMISSION IS UPDATED, UH, ON OUR BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR.

UH, GIVEN THAT THE PAST YEAR IS, IS, WAS A LITTLE, UM, OUT OF THE ORDINARY, UM, THIS, THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR, HOPEFULLY WE'LL, UM, WE'LL BRING A LITTLE BIT MORE CERTAINTY OUR WAY, BUT, UM, WE HAVE STARTED OUR BUSINESS PLANNING TYPICALLY.

UM, WE WOULD HAVE DONE AN IN-PERSON, UH, BUSINESS PLANNING RETREAT, UM, WHERE ALL OF THE LEADERSHIP OF ARR

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OBVIOUSLY WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT, BUT WE CERTAINLY GOT A LOT OF CONFLICT THROUGH A COUPLE OF, UM, UH, UM, WORK SESSIONS THAT WE HAD.

WE HAD ABOUT, UH, FIVE WORK SESSIONS LAST FRIDAY, AND ONE LAST THURSDAY, UM, FOCUSED ON, ON VARIOUS THINGS, UM, WHICH I'VE INCLUDED, UH, IN THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT DAY.

ONE OF THE PLANNING SESSION HAPPENED, UM, ACTUALLY ON THE 14TH OF DECEMBER, UM, WE MORE FOCUSED AND TARGETED SESSIONS LAST WEEK, BUT THE FIRST SESSION IN DECEMBER, UM, WAS REALLY JUST TO GET A HIGH LEVEL, UM, UH, HIGH-LEVEL GUIDANCE FROM OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM ON, UH, AFFECTING SITUATION AND POTENTIAL AREAS FOR, FOR, UM, PREVENT EXPANSION.

IF THEY SEE ANYTHING COMING DOWN THE PIKE THAT WOULD HAVE, UH, UH, A BUDGETARY IMPACT, THE SESSIONS THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK, AGAIN, WERE, UM, WERE MORE TARGETED DISCUSSIONS.

WE TALKED ABOUT FACILITY NEEDS, UM, THAT ARE UPCOMING.

AND AGAIN, WE, WE, UH, DO A FINANCIAL FORECAST.

IT'S A FIVE-YEAR FORECAST.

SO ANYTHING THAT MIGHT HAVE A BUDGETARY IMPACT WITHIN THAT FIVE YEARS, WE WANT TO PUT OUT ON THE TABLE FOR DISCUSSION.

UM, AND AGAIN, ALL THE LEADERSHIP AND VARIOUS STAFF MEMBERS WERE PRESENT TO PROVIDE US INFORMATION, UH, OR TO PROVIDE THE GROUP INFORMATION AND JUST HAVE A GENERAL DISCUSSION ON, ON SOME OF THESE, UH, AREAS OF, OF DEPARTMENTAL NEEDS.

UM, AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, CAPITAL CAPITAL NEEDS FACILITIES, UH, NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH, UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE ALL PROBABLY AWARE OF.

UM, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, UH, OUR FLEET.

WE HAD A TARGETED, TARGETED DISCUSSION ON OUR FLEET NEEDS AND CHALLENGES WITH, UM, VEHICLE DOWNTIME AND, YOU KNOW, UM, THE NEED FOR REPLACEMENT VEHICLES AND OUR GOALS TO, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, BECOME A MORE GREAT OR, UH, OBTAIN A MORE GREEN FLEET TO ELECTRIC ELECTRIFIED VEHICLES.

UM, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY PURCHASES, UM, AND, UH, OTHER OTHER ISSUES THAT, THAT ARISE FOR THE DEPARTMENT AGAIN, UM, DISCUSSING ANY PROGRAM EXPANSIONS, UH, AND POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO FEES, THE THING THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE, UM, AGAIN, THOSE, THOSE SESSIONS WERE, WERE REALLY INFORMATIVE FOR THE BUDGET STAFF.

UM, AND REALLY THE NEXT STEPS ARE, UM, DEVELOPING THE FINANCIAL FORECAST.

THE CITY HAS NOT YET KICKED OFF, OFFICIALLY KICKED OFF, UH, THE FINANCIAL FORECAST, UM, OR THE BUDGET SEASON.

UM, THEY'RE EXPECTED TO DO THAT NEXT WEDNESDAY ON THE 20TH.

UM, AND, AND AFTER THAT, IT'S, UH, YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A MAD DASH TO, UH, TO GET EVERYTHING COMPLETE.

AND, UH, THINGS TURNED IN ON TIME.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, DIVISION MANAGERS WILL BE BUSY WORKING, UM, ON DEVELOPING THEIR, THEIR NEEDS, THEIR FINANCIAL NEEDS OF THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

UM, AND THEN, UH, IN THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, I INCLUDED SOME, JUST SOME KEY DATES.

UH, APRIL 16TH IS WHEN THE CITY WILL DELIVER THE FINANCIAL FORECAST, UH, TO CITY COUNCIL.

UH, JULY 9TH IS WHEN THE ACTUAL PROPOSED BUDGET GETS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEN BUDGET ADOPTION AGAIN, OCCURS IN EARLY AUGUST, SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR.

UM, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEM.

UH, HOPEFULLY THE NEXT TIME WE COME BEFORE YOU, IT WILL BE YOU GET THE PRESENTATION FOR, UH, OF THE FINANCIAL FORECAST THAT WE SUBMIT.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY, I SPOKE WITH THE DIRECTOR OF SNIPES, KIM GRAY PLANNING, BY THE WAY.

I MEAN, THIS LONG-TERM BUSINESS PLANNING IS, IS VITAL, AND I LOVE THE, UH, THE FIVE AND 10 YEAR FORECAST, OR WE'RE GOING OUT THERE.

AND OBVIOUSLY THINGS DO CHANGE CHALLENGES COME UP AND, UH, BUT AT LEAST TO GET THE CORE BUSINESS PLANNING DONE AHEAD OF TIME IS WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU, STAFF FOR THAT, THE COMMISSIONER.

SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT, OR THE STAFF BRIEFINGS, UH, ALL OF THE OTHER MATERIALS ARE THERE, THE BACKUP MATERIALS.

AND, UH, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

SHORTER, THE FORMER, UH, ACM THAT COVERED OUR AREA HAS TAKEN A POSITION WITH THE CITY OF BALTIMORE.

YOU KNOW, I, AGAIN, DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON, UH, UH, I GUESS THE CHANGE IN CITY MANAGEMENT? ABSOLUTELY.

SO I WOULD BE REMISS IF I, DIDN'T NOT MENTION THE FACT THAT, UH, ACM

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UM, WE ARE NOW WORKING ON THEIR CURRENT OR INTERIM, UH, ACM, UH, SHANNON JONES.

UH, SHANNON JONES WAS FORMALLY AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN THE PAST AS A MEMBER OF THE AUSTIN HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

AND, UH, HE IS AN ANTICIPATED THAT HE WILL BE HERE FOR ABOUT, UH, UP TO FOUR MONTHS OR SO WHILE THE CITY MANAGER COMPLETES THE PROCESS.

UH, AND THE, UH, AND AS THEY HIRE, LOOKED TO HIRE A NEW, UH, REPLACEMENT.

THANK YOU, KEN, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

THAT PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES STAFF BRIEFINGS, UNLESS YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR A QUESTION FOR THE, UH, FOR STAFF I SHOULD SAY.

AND IF NOT, UH, I GUESS THE LAST,

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THE LAST ITEM HERE IS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS PERMISSION TO DO SO MR. SNAPS WAS GOING TO CHECK ON, UM, SOMETHING THAT I TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT NEXT MEETING.

THAT'S CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER, HOW WE'LL FIND OUT THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE, UH, PROCESS THAT CTM USES TO DETERMINE WHEN THEY REPLACED THEIR ASSETS.

AND I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.

I THINK ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS RIGHT NOW ON FUTURE COMMISSIONER WHITE? WELL, IT SAYS, UH, SOMETHING FOR THE, UM, FOR THE, UM, ORGANIC COMMITTEE.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, BUT I AM JUST CURIOUS WHERE THINGS STAND WITH, UH, YOUR ORGANIC PILOT.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT WAS PUT ON HOLD BECAUSE OF COVID.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S PROBABLY WORK THAT COULD BE DONE, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S READY TO GO AND MAYBE IT IS HAPPENING, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS MOVING AS MUCH AS, EXCUSE ME.

EXCUSE ME.

COMMISSIONER IS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE CURRENT ORGANICS PILOT MULTIFAMILY, CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER WHITE, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? I HAVE ONE, ALTHOUGH I HAVE TO ADMIT IT'S, IT'S, UH, MAYBE A POINT OF CURIOSITY, MORE THAN SOMETHING TO ADD TO THE AGENDA, SPIT IT OUT.

LET'S GO FOR IT.

UH, YEAH, SO I'M, I KNOW THAT WE'RE SEEING A CHANGE IN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNTS OF TRASH RECYCLING AND ORGANICS, YOU KNOW, DURING THE PANDEMIC WITH SO MANY PEOPLE AT HOME, IT'S SHIFTING, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE BURDEN OF WASTE HANDLING TO THE CITY, UM, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT SPENDING TIME AND EATING AND BUSINESSES AND ET CETERA.

SO WE'VE SEEN THAT SHIFT.

I'M VERY, VERY CURIOUS ABOUT WASTE COMPOSITION, UM, WITH THE COMPOSITION OF WHAT'S GOING IN THAT LANDFILL CONTAINER HAS CHANGED.

UH, PEOPLE ARE BUYING AND USING AND DISCARD PARTING DIFFERENT ITEMS THAN THEY NORMALLY DO.

SOME OF WHICH HAVE SOME HAZARDOUS WASTE IMPLICATIONS.

AND SO, YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, THIS DEPARTMENT HAS DONE, OR WHETHER THERE'S INFORMATION WE KNOW FROM OTHER CITIES ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT THAT WOULD HAVE, UH, PRETTY IMPORTANT IMPLICATIONS IF WE HAVE LONG-TERM CHANGE CHANGES IN USE PATTERNS BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC IT'S GOING TO AFFECT WASTE HANDLING TOO.

I DO BELIEVE THE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE THAT.

I THINK RICHARD, I THINK WE WERE PART OF THAT AT ONE TIME, THE, UH, THE, UH, WASTE ARTISTS THAT WE USED, OR WE DID, IT'S BEEN YEARS SINCE I THINK WE HAD OUR LAST WASTE AUDIT, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN HERE.