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          [Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order ]
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THIS MEETING COMMISSION TO ORDER AT 6:07 PM. 
          SO IT LOOKS LIKE PRESENT TONIGHT. 
          WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS AZHAR YOU JUST WANT TO RAISE YOUR HAND? COMMISSIONER SEGER COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, COMMISSIONER SHEA, COMMISSIONER SHAW, MISSIONARY EYES, TOLEDO MISSIONER THOMPSON COMMISSIONER FLORES, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. 
          DID I FREEZE UP? ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, ABSENT COMMISSIONERS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE AN EXIT FEE, UH, PHYSIOS TONIGHT. 
          SO, UM, ABSENT OUR COMMISSIONER, DON LAYTON, BURWELL AND RICHARD MENDOZA. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, JUST A REMINDER, OUR, A BIWEEKLY OR BIMONTHLY REMINDER HAVE YOUR GREEN, RED, AND YELLOW ITEMS READY FOR VOTING MEMBER TO STAY MUTED WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING AND RAISE YOUR HAND TO BE RECOGNIZED. 
          I SEE COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY'S HERE. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, IF I MISS YOU JUST TRY AGAIN AND LET ME KNOW VERBALLY, IF, UM, IF I STILL DIDN'T HEAR YOU AND, UH, REMEMBER THAT SEVEN VOTES ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO APPROVE A MOTION. 
          UH, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS TONIGHT THAT WILL REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY, THOSE BEING, UM, THE ITEMS THAT ARE SEEKING HISTORIC DESIGNATION. 
          SO FOR THE PARTICIPANTS SELECT STAR ON SIX TO MUTE, AND IF YOUR ITEM IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMAIN ON THE LINE. 
          WE'LL SEE IT. 
          WE'LL SEND AN EMAIL WHEN WE'RE ABOUT 15 MINUTES AWAY FROM TAKING UP THAT ITEM. 
          SO, UH, 
          [Reading of the Agenda ]
WE'RE GOING TO READ THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA AND, UM, I'LL READ THROUGH ALL OF THE AGENDA ITEMS, THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS AND IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF FOR CONSENT APPROVAL, UM, WHICH WILL INCLUDE CONSENT POSTPONEMENTS AND NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS. SO, UH, THE FIRST ITEM I HAVE TONIGHT IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 
          SO, UM, DO YOU, DOES ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE A CORRECTION TO THE LAST MEETING'S MINUTES? ALL RIGHT. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          WE'LL MOVE INTO THE, UM, AGENDA ITEM B PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          SO TONIGHT WE'VE GOT  PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO FIVE DOT OH ONE MONTOPOLIS ACRES. 
          NPA. 
          THIS ITEM IS, UM, RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. 
          WE HAVE B2 REZONING, C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO TWO NINE MONTOPOLIS ACRES, REZONING. 
          THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION OF  AND P BY STAFF, BOTH FOR DISCUSSION. 
          WE'LL TAKE UP ITEMS B ONE AND B2 TOGETHER. 
          ITEM B3 IS A REZONING. 
          SEE 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE FIVE FOUR DOMAIN RETAIL RETAIL DISTRICT ONE BLOCK Z. 
          THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. 
          IT'S OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM BEFORE IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE TWO EIGHT N B G AUSTIN ENERGY SUBSTATION, REZONING. 
          THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF TO GO, UM, FROM NBG TOD AND P TO P. 
          IT IS OFFERED ON CONSENT AND WE HAVE A SPEAKER SIGNED UP AS A NEUTRAL TO PROVIDE REMARKS, UH, ITEM B FIVE FREE ZONING, C 14 H DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE THREE SIX. 
          THE ELLEN WIFE'S HOUSE. 
          WHY IS ACRE? THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. 
          UM, IT'S PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE'LL NEED A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF NINE VOTES, BUT ITEM B6, REZONING C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE ONE TWO, THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY INTERNATIONAL. 
          THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF OF DMU DASH C O. 
          THIS ITEM IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM B SEVEN IS A REZONING C 14 H DASH 2021 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO SIX, DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY INTERNATIONAL. 
          THIS IS RECOMMENDED TO GO FROM GEO TO DM YOU DASH H BY STAFF. 
          AND THIS IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION AND WE'LL TAKE UP ITEMS 
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B SIX AND B SEVEN TOGETHER. 
          THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WOULD NEED A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE OF NINE VOTES. 
          UH, ITEM B EIGHT AS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ONE FIVE.ZERO FOUR DOT S AGE LOT AVENUE. 
          THIS IS IS, UM, COLD, OR THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TO FEBRUARY 9TH. 
          AND THE APPLICANT IS IN AGREEMENT ITEM B NINE AS A REZONING C4 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE THREE FIVE AS AGE LOT AVENUE. 
          UM, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TOO UNTIL FEBRUARY 9TH AS WELL. 
          ITEM B 10 IS A REZONING C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE THREE ZERO 56 13 PATENT RANCH ROAD. 
          THIS IS RECOMMENDED, UM, OR, SORRY, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TILL FEBRUARY 23RD. 
          AND THE APPLICANT IS AN AGREEMENT. 
          YOU HAVE ITEM B 11 A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO TWO FIVE.ZERO ONE. 
          THIS IS THE THOMAS SPRINGS OFFICE SLASH WAREHOUSE. 
          THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF TO GO FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY LAND USE AS AMENDED IS ITEMS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM B12 REZONING C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE ZERO TWO. 
          THOMAS SPRINGS OFFICE SLASH WAREHOUSE. 
          THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. 
          UM, THIS ITEM IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION AND WILL BE TAKEN UP AT THE SAME TIME AS THE 11 ITEM B 13 DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS S P C DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE TWO ONE C DASH 90 92. 
          RAINY. 
          THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF TO GRANT ADDITIONAL FAR FROM 15 TO ONE TO 31.7 TO ONE. 
          THIS ITEMS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM B 14, PRELIMINARY PLAN C H J DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ONE THREE WEST BELLA FORTUNA. 
          THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND OFFERED FOR CONSENT. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, THE 15 IS A FINAL PLATFORM IMPROVE PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT DASH 2018 DASH ZERO ONE SIX FIVE W DOT TWO, A CASCADES AT ONION CREEK PHASE TWO FINAL PLAT. 
          THIS, UH, IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. 
          THAT WAS A LAST MINUTE CHANGE, UM, TO THE AGENDA. 
          SO LET ME GO OVER THOSE AGAIN. 
          UM, SO V1 V2 PULL FOR DISCUSSION B3 CONSENT BEFORE IS CONSENT WITH A SPEAKER. 
          SIGN THAT TO PROVIDE A COMMENT  IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION A SIX AND B SEVEN WILL BE TAKEN TOGETHER. 
          AND THOSE WILL BE FOR DISCUSSION  AS A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THIS COMMENT ON FEBRUARY 9TH, BENIGN NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT OF FEBRUARY 9TH, B 10 NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT OF FEBRUARY 23RD, B 11, AND B 12, UH, BOLD FOR DISCUSSION. 
          WE TAKEN UP TOGETHER B 13 FULL FOR DISCUSSION BE 14 AND BE 15 FOR CONSENT. 
          UM, SO, AND THEN APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR ANY CORRECTIONS TO THOSE. 
          SO THIS CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          OH, I FORGOT. 
          SO SORRY. 
          SEEING ADS. 
          WE HAVE QUITE A FEW DISCUSSION ITEMS TONIGHT. 
          UM, WE WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY OBJECTION TO THE BRIEFING C1 BEING POSTPONED TO FEBRUARY 9TH. 
          THIS IS THE, UM, GOALS, PROGRESS AND INSIGHTS FOR THE 2017 AUSTIN STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT, WHICH WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THAT BRIEFING. 
          UM, SO ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS THERE? OKAY. 
          SO THAT WAY THE STAFF WHO WAS GOING TO PRESENT THAT CAN GO AHEAD AND DROP OFF THE CALL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO TO CLARIFY, THAT MEANS C1 IS ALSO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TO BE POSTPONED UNTIL FEBRUARY 9TH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE RECLOSING THEMSELVES FROM ANY ITEMS TONIGHT? ALL RIGHT. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          NONE. 
          UM, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO PULL 
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ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION OR OTHERWISE HAVE QUESTIONS? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER ANDERSON 75% BODY. 
          IS IT BECAUSE WE'RE MISSING A MEMBER THAT WE ONLY NEED NINE? OR DID WE ASK FOR ME, ANDREW? DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? THE QUESTION IS, UM, IF, IF, UH, CAUSE WE'RE MISSING A MEMBER, IS THAT WHY WE ONLY NEED NINE VOTES OR NOT 10 BECAUSE OF THE VACANCY? YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          UM, 
          [Consent Agenda ]
CAN I GET A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA MOTION FROM COMMISSIONERS OUR SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SEEKER. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DO WE NEED TO COMMENT BEFORE WE, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          YES. 
          UM, WELL I JUST GOT A, UM, I'VE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT, UM, THE COMMENT WAS GOING TO BE FROM MR. TOM WALD AND HE'S NOT SPEAKING BUSY THING. 
          CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? SURE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO REALLY THANK STAFF FOR, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          UM, AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS A, A BIKE PLANE OR A BIKE PATH. 
          THAT'S GOING TO GO ALONG THAT AND, AND SORT OF, YOU KNOW, PROMISING AND WORKING WITH, UH, THE BIKE COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UM, UH, CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, OUR CONSENT AGENDA LOOKS LIKE, UH, WE HAVE 11 GREEN GREENS, UH, COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY. 
          ARE YOU GREEN? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SORRY. 
          I WAS LOOKING FOR MY GREEN ITEMS, SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT MOTION PASSES AT 11. 
          SO TARA, JUST TO CONFIRM THAT WAS TO CLOSE THE HEARING AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          BOTH RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. 
          UM, OKAY, SO LET'S MOVE ON INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          [Items B1. & B2. ]
THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THE APP TONIGHT IS ON, UM, CAN YOU ONE AND B TWO, THIS IS A MONTOPOLIS ACRES REZONING. 
          UM, AND DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION MEREDITH OF HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT ITEM NUMBER ONE IS NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO 5.01 ON TOPLESS ACRES. 
          PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 10, 13 AND 10 17 MONTOPOLIS DRIVE. 
          IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA. 
          THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY LAND USE. 
          IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. 
          WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, CONTACT TEAM AND OPPOSITION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SINCE WE'RE TAKING THESE UP TOGETHER, UM, MS. CLARK, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? I GUESS KATE TALK THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, UM, LET'S MOVE TO, UM, THE APPLICANT CHAIR COMMISSION LAYS ON IT FOR MS. CLARK IS ON THE LINE. 
          UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          WE'LL HAVE HER DIAL BACK IN. 
          OKAY. 
          STILL HOLDING. 
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UM, IS MS. CLARK THERE YET? WE JUST ADMITTED HER. 
          SO SHE SHOULDN'T BE UNMUTING AND SHOULD BE READY TO GO ANY SECOND NOW, MS. CLARK, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? HELLO? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME NOW CONFIRM, OKAY. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          IT WOULDN'T LET ME UNMUTE, UM, I'M K KARCH WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND I'M PRESENTING CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO TWO NINE. 
          METROPOLIS ACRES REZONING. 
          THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 10, 13 AND 10 17 MONTOPOLIS DRIVE, AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 3.12 ACRES IN SIZE. 
          IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS FITZ THREE MP, AND IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF MONTOPOLIS DRIVE ADJACENT TO THE EAST AND SOUTH, AS WELL AS ACROSS MONTOPOLIS DRIVE OUR PROPERTY ZONED SF THREE EMPTY ADJACENT TO THE NORTH IS AN UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES ZONED L O M U C O N T. 
          THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING  AND TO CONSTRUCT A MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX WITH UP TO 200 UNITS. 
          UM, SPECIFICS ABOUT THE BUILDING DESIGN AND SITE LAYOUT SITE LAYOUT ARE UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME. 
          THAT'S IS RECOMMENDING TO REZONE TO MS. THREE EMPTY. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS BETWEEN THE TRACKS DOWN FELL O M U T O N P TO THE NORTH AND TRACKS ZONED  TO THE SOUTH EAST AND WEST TO CROSS MONTOPOLIS DRIVE. 
          ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE A BUILDING HEIGHT OF 35 FEET, AND, UM, MANY OF THEM CONTAIN SINGLE FAMILY USES FURTHER NORTH ALONG THE TOP OF THE STRIDE IS ATTRACT ZONES T U D N P. 
          AND THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THAT PROPERTY IS 40 FEET. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN AN AREA THAT HAS MAINTAINED A CONSISTENT, MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES. 
          REZONING THIS PROPERTY TO MS. THREE MP WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH ITS SURROUNDING LAND USES AND PROVIDE A TRANSITION IN SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND LAND USE BETWEEN THE COMMERCIALLY AND RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES. 
          SORRY FOR THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, BUT I AM HERE FOR, FOR THE QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, NOW FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, MY ALYSSA STORY, I HAVE A LAST NAME. 
          HELLO? HI, IS, IS TORI. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          UH, THIS IS VICTORIA HASSEY WITH BREWERY DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 10, 13 AND 10 17 MONTOPOLIS DRIVE. 
          UM, LET ME KNOW WHEN THE PRESENTATION IS IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          HERE WE GO WITH GUTS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, PDF OF A LETTER FROM THE MANA, UH, MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOODS AND CONTENT TEAM. 
          NO. 
          UM, THE PRESENTATION IS A PDF WITH THRILLER DESIGN IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER. 
          WE'RE WAITING ON THAT TO COME UP. 
          I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN I SEE IT. 
          JUST A SECOND. 
           10 MORE SECONDS. 
           
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HEY, MISS ASSAY. 
          WE CAN SEE THE PRESENTATION NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YOU CAN, UH, HAVE IT ADVANCE TO THE SECOND SLIDE. 
          UM, THE SUBJECT TRACK IS A LITTLE OVER THREE ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED LAND LOCATED JUST SLIGHTLY OVER A HALF MILE NORTH OF THE IMAGINE AUSTIN TOWN CENTER, AN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR EAST RIVERSIDE DRIVE THE RED DOTS ON THE IMAGE IN FRONT OF YOU REPRESENT CAPITAL METRO BUS STOPS IN THE AREA. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UM, THIS, THIS MAP IS, UH, TAKEN FROM THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN. 
          PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM MAP OF THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON LOCAL TRANSIT SERVICE NETWORK AND IS VERY NEAR A COMMUTER TRANSIT NETWORK AS WELL. 
          ALSO, THERE'S A MOBILITY HUB. 
          THAT'S ABOUT A HALF, HALF A MILE AWAY OFF OF GROVE BOULEVARD, KIND OF HARD TO SEE. 
          UM, BUT IT'S THERE OFF ON THE WEST SIDE OR THE LEFT SIDE OF THE MAP, EXISTING TRANSIT AND PLAN FOR A MORE ROBUST, MORE ROBUST TRANSIT NETWORK WITH THE PROJECT CONNECT BLUE LINE IN THE FUTURE. 
          WE'LL SUPPORT GREAT, UH, DENSITY AT THIS LOCATION. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO MULTIFAMILY AND TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO MS. DIX, TO ALLOW FOR UP TO 200 DWELLING UNITS AT THIS LOCATION. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND THEN TABLETS NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN SUPPORTS RESIDENTIAL USES ON REMAINING UNDEVELOPED LAND. 
          AND WHILE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN DOES NOT DESIRE IN FIX AT THIS LOCATION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN IS 20 YEARS OLD AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF OUR CITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA HAVE CHANGED TO WARRANT A CONSIDERATION FOR AN INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AT THIS LOCATION. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          WE COMPARE THE AVERAGE DENSITY YIELD AS WELL AS THE REALISTIC DENSITY YIELD IN THE TABLE. 
          ALSO INCLUDED AS A MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWANCES AS COMPARED TO WHAT IS POSSIBLE THROUGH THE LENS OF COMPATIBILITY. 
          NOTE THAT FOR NSX, THE NUMBER OF UNITS POSSIBLE ARE UNLIMITED PER CODE. 
          YET THEY ARE LIMITED AND DETERMINED BY HOW MANY UNITS CAN BE ACHIEVED IN A BUILDING THAT MEETS THE HEIGHT AND IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT FOR STANDARD MS. FOUR IN A SIX DEVELOPMENT. 
          THIS, THIS LOCATION MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS NOT POSSIBLE DUE TO COMPATIBILITY. 
          HOWEVER, DEVELOPMENT WITH AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED IS NOT LIMITED BY COMPATIBILITY RULES AND THUS CAN ACHIEVE GREATER DENSITY AND GREATER CONTRIBUTIONS TO TRULY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RECOGNIZING THE NEED FOR CONTEXTUAL SENSITIVITY AT THIS LOCATION, PLEASE KNOW THAT AN MSX DEVELOPMENT WITH AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED WOULD BE LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN FIVE STORIES OR, UM, 75 FEET IN HEIGHT. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS IS JUST A QUICK VISUAL SHOWING HOW COMPATIBILITY APPLIES TO THE SUBJECT TRACK. 
          UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THE NORTHERN PART PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS THE PORTION THAT WOULD, UH, BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE UP TO THREE STORIES. 
          UM, AND THE SOUTHERN SOUTHERN BOUNDARY LINE IS THERE'S A CHURCH THAT'S THROWN TO SF THREE THERE, AND, UM, THERE IS A COMPATIBILITY BUFFER THERE AS WELL AS TO THE EAST. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO JUST THIS WEEKEND, THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS ABLE TO ACHIEVE, UM, VERY CONCEPTUAL PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT POSSIBILITIES WITHIN THE FOUR  ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          AND THIS PLAN HERE SHOWS AN IMAGE THREE DEVELOPMENT YIELDING, UM, THREE, THREE STORY BUILDINGS WITH SURFACE PARKING. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND THIS IS JUST A 3D RENDERING OF AN  DEVELOPMENT AT THIS SITE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          HERE ARE TWO POSSIBLE SCENARIOS FOR AN MF FOR DEVELOPMENT, BOTH SOLUTIONS ACHIEVE A MAXIMUM OF THREE STORIES, HOWEVER OPTIONS TO PRIORITIZE A STRUCTURED PARKING RATHER THAN SURFACE PARKING. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND THEN THIS IS WHAT A 3D IS A 3D MODEL OF WHAT THAT DEVELOPMENT COULD LOOK LIKE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND A STANDARD AND A SIX PROJECT AT THIS SITE WOULD BE SEVERELY LIMITED DUE TO COMPATIBILITY. 
          AS I SAID EARLIER, HOWEVER, AND AFFORDABILITY ON LARC PROJECT CAN REALISTICALLY ACHIEVE A DEVELOPMENT WITH THREE RESIDENTIAL FLOORS, ABOUT TWO LEVELS OF PARKING I'VE SEEN HERE IN THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND THEN THIS IS A 3D RENDERING OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THANKS TO VARIOUS MODALITIES THROUGH OUR DESIGN HAS BECOME INCREASINGLY AWARE OF THE ISSUES OF THIS PLACEMENT AT THIS COMMUNITY THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS EXPERIENCING. 
          AND WE ARE SYMPATHETIC TO THE CONCERN FOR LOSS OF CULTURAL IDENTITY THAT COMES ALONG WITH THIS PLACEMENT OF ITS MEMBERS. 
          WE ALSO UNDERSTAND 
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THE NEIGHBORHOODS DESIRE TO MAINTAIN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE TWO MATTERS OF DISPLACEMENT AND, AND, UH, RETENTION OF SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS THEY'RE WORKING AGAINST EACH OTHER, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE PROPERTIES PROPERTIES THAT ARE AT THE POINT OF REDEVELOPMENT. 
          THIS PLACEMENT IS A VALID CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY AND OTHERS. 
          AND WHILE THE CITY WORKS TO MOBILIZE SOLUTIONS, THE HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY CRISIS CONTINUES TO GROW AT AN ALARMING RATE TAKING ACTION IN WAYS THAT CAN HELP EVEN PARTIALLY IS BETTER THAN TAKING NO ACTION AT ALL. 
          AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF, UH, SEVERAL MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING UNITS IS GOING TO DO FAR LESS DAMAGE TO THE AREAS IN A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION WITH HOUSES THAT WILL SELL FOR AT LEAST 600,000 AND MORE. 
          WE HOPEFULLY WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOUR SUPPORT TO APPROVE OUR HOUSE MORE HOUSING AT THIS LOCATION, AND WE REMAIN AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I'LL PASS IT ALONG THE WRONG. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IS RON THROWER ON THE PHONE STAR SIX TO UNMUTE COMMISSIONER IS RON THROWER HERE? I JUST WANTED TO JUST REITERATE A FEW ITEMS THAT I THINK IS ESSENTIALLY IMPORTANT FOR THIS, THAT THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN A STONE'S THROW OF A PARK, A VERY LARGE PARK MONTOPOLIS. 
          THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER THERE. 
          UH, THE MONTOPOLIS ROADWAY ITSELF IS A TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK. 
          UH, VICTORIA SHOWED YOU A SLIDE THAT HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRANSIT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE GOING ON THAT ROADWAY TODAY. 
          THE BLUE LINE IS A HALF MILE AWAY. 
          THAT'S PROPOSED ALONG RIVERSIDE DRIVE. 
          UM, DENSITY HERE I BELIEVE IS VERY APPROPRIATE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S SCALED CORRECTLY AND COUPLED WITH THE VOLUNTARY AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE'RE OFFERING WITH US. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, JUST WANTED TO REITERATE AGAIN, THE SCALING OF THE PROJECT UNDER A MULTI MULTI-FAMILY SIX DEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT BE 90 FEET IN HEIGHT. 
          THAT WOULDN'T BE 135 FEET IS WHAT W WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE ALLOWED UNDER AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK. 
          WE'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR FIVE STORIES HERE AND ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO ACCEPT A CONDITIONER, RESTRICT YOUR CABINET, THAT WOULD LIMIT IT TO THE FIVE STORIES AND THE HEIGHT LIMIT THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          I BELIEVE THE PROJECT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA AND WE ARE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'LL HEAR FROM THOSE OPPOSED. 
          DO WE HAVE, UH, NO EIGHT ALIAS ON THE PHONE STAR SIX TO UNMUTE? YES, I'M HERE. 
          THIS IS NOAH. 
          HI, WE CAN HEAR YOU. 
          YES. 
          UH, I'M CALLING, I'M OPPOSING, UH, THE UPS OWNING OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, AT 10, 13 AND 10 17. 
          WHEN TOPLESS, I BELIEVE THAT ANY UPS OWNING IN A LOW-INCOME COMMUNITY LIKE MONTOPOLIS, UH, SHOULD NOT BE, UH, VOTED ON, UH, UNLESS THERE ARE PROTECTIONS AGAINST DISPLACEMENT, HOW WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO THINK BIGGER, UH, AND PRIORITIZE HOUSING, UH, TO THOSE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THE LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE, UH, WE NEED TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITIES FROM BEING FORCED OUT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THIS STARTS WITH LISTENING, LISTENING TO THOSE THAT LIVE HERE, THOSE THAT WORK HERE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT PRIVATE DEVELOPERS WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A LOT OF HOUSING AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO LOWER THE PRICES IT'S GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE, BUT DEVELOPERS WILL NEVER BUILD ENOUGH HOUSING TO MAKE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, IT'S NOT IN THEIR INTEREST. 
          UH, SO WE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY HERE AND, UH, BEGIN TO TACKLE THESE HOUSING ISSUES. 
          BY LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE ARE A WORKING TEST COMMUNITY. 
          THAT'S PREDOMINANTLY BLACK, BROWN, INDIGENOUS FAMILIES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE BEING FORCED OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND WHAT'S SAD ABOUT THIS IS THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY CITY EMPLOYEES, UH, PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR CAPITAL METRO AISD THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT MAINTAIN OUR PARKS, PEOPLE THAT REPAIR OUR STREETS, UH, THAT KEEP OUR BUSES RUNNING. 
          THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE. 
          AND I THINK THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL JUST MAKE IT EVEN WORSE. 
          IT WILL FORCE MORE PEOPLE OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO WHENEVER YOU'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS, I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE OUR VOICES ACCOUNT. 
          YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE LOW-INCOME HOUSING. 
          THAT'S AFFORDABLE TO THE WORKING FAMILIES OF MEN TOPLESS. 
          SO YOU NEED TO DENY THIS REQUEST, YOU KNOW, INTO THE DEVELOPER, COMES TO THE COMMUNITY IN GOOD FAITH AND LISTENS TO WHAT 
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WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, SO WE ARE READY TO WORK WITH, WITH, UH, THE DEVELOPER, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY CAN PROVIDE A LOW-INCOME HOUSING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WHO ARE THEY BUILDING THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR? AND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT THE COMMUNITY OF MONTOPOLIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IS PETER SINAI ON THE PHONE HERE? STAR SIX ON YOU? HELLO, THIS IS PETER SIMON. 
          I, UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU GO AHEAD. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          HI. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, UH, I'M, I'M CALLING IN, I LIVE IN MONTOPOLIS AND I'M CALLING INTO, UH, OPPOSE THIS AND ASK THAT YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, IT REINFORCED THE VOICES OF, UH, OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THIS. 
          I'M LIKE, NO, HE SAID, I THINK YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, I THINK WE SHOULD, UM, BE REAL. 
          UM, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT DEVELOPERS ACROSS AUSTIN WOULD LIKE TO CO-OP THE ARGUMENTS ABOUT DISPLACEMENT AND PRETEND THAT I'M ASKING FOR MORE FROM YOU IN TERMS OF ENTITLEMENTS WILL SOMEHOW TRICKLE DOWN TO THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S JUST NOT REALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          UM, I THINK IT SHOULD BE, UH, UPON YOU TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THEM, TO WORK HARDER WITH COMMUNITY, TO TRY, UM, TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY IF THEY WANT THESE ENTITLEMENTS. 
          UM, I REALIZED THAT THE BIAS OF THE CITY PLANNERS AND A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMISSION IS TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, MORE HOUSING AT ALL COSTS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE, WHAT NO, HE SAID IS TRUE. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND GOOD PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN MONTOPOLIS WHO ARE BEING PUSHED OUT BY RISING TAXES. 
          AND A LOT OF THE RISING TAXES ARE HAPPENING FOR FIVE, UH, FORCES OF SPECULATIVE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THIS W WE KNOW THAT. 
          AND WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, YOU KNOW, REJECT THIS PROPOSAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS ERIC PAULA ON THE PHONE? MY NAME IS ERIC. 
          HI. 
          HELLO. 
          CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          I'D LIKE TO JUST ECHO SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF MY NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THIS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE MONTOPOLIS COMMUNITY. 
          I THINK THESE, UH, UNITS ARE FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T CURRENTLY LIVE IN MONTOPOLIS. 
          AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPER ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THIS IS NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND, UH, THE EXCUSE THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN UPDATED BY NOW IS NOT REALLY AN EXCUSE. 
          UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CLEAR THAT THIS ISN'T IN THE INTEREST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS, UH, THERE HAS BEEN SEVERE FLOODING ISSUES IN THIS AREA IMMEDIATELY IN THAT AREA, UM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE STREETS DRAIN AND MANY HOUSES WERE FLOODED ONLY A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          AND, UH, I KNOW TALKING WITH WATERSHED OVER THE YEARS, THAT THIS IS A, UH, WHAT THEY CALL A WICKED PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE OR THE BUDGET TO FIX THE DRAINAGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A VERY BIG MISTAKE TO ADD A LARGE PROJECT LIKE THIS AND CREATE A LOT MORE IMPERVIOUS COVER, PARTICULARLY ON A LOT THAT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TO BEGIN WITH. 
          UM, SO I'D LIKE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO JUST TAKE SERIOUSLY AND STOP PAYING LIP SERVICE TO ANTI GENTRIFICATION. 
          AND, UM, I SAW A LOT OF LIPS, UH, HEARD A LOT OF LIP SERVICE FROM THE DEVELOPER AND, UH, THIS, THIS PROJECT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH. 
          AND I URGE YOU ALL TO DENY IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, VICTORIA HAS SEEN, DO YOU EVER REBUTTAL HI HERE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. 
          UM, RON CHAR WE'RE HERE, VICTORIA GOT DISCONNECTED. 
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SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO DIAL BACK IN. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL SHARE IT ABOUT 10 SECONDS. 
          AND WHILE I HAVE MS, UM, BECCA ON THE TELECONFERENCE, SHE SHOULD BE IN MEETING NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I GOT DISCONNECTED. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          AS I WAS TRYING TO GET BACK ON. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN A PREDICAMENT SITUATION. 
          UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN A PRECARIOUS SITUATION WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO HOLD ON TO THEIR CULTURAL IDENTITY. 
          UM, THEY'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR COMMUNITY FROM BEING FORCED OUT. 
          AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH. 
          AND LIKE I SAID, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE SOME READING AND LOOKING INTO THE UPROOTED STUDY, UM, TO, TO TRY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          UM, WE DID WHERE, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS INVITED TO A MEETING WITH THE CITY OF WHICH NO ONE SHOWED UP, BUT WE DID GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS FOR A MEETING, UM, THAT THEY, UM, PUT INTO PLACE. 
          AND, UH, WE LISTENED TO THE CONCERN AND THE REQUESTS, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF REQUESTS. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, TRUTH BE TOLD. 
          WE JUST, THERE'S A LOT OF THE REQUESTS THAT THEY ASK FOR THAT JUST CAN'T BE DONE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE THING, THE THING IS IS THAT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT, THEY WANT, THEY WANNA RETAIN THEIR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AND THEY ALSO WANT HOUSING THAT'S AFFORDABLE, BUT IN THIS KIND OF MARKET WITH WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY HARD THING TO ACHIEVE. 
          AND IF WE CAN'T GET A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT HERE AND, AND THE PROPERTY REMAINS IN A SINGLE FAMILY, AS YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD BEFORE, THE ONLY THING TO DO IS TO DEVELOP SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          AND WITH THE MARKET THAT'S HERE, THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE GOING TO BE SO MUCH MORE HARSH, AND THERE WILL BE NO AFFORDABILITY TO EVEN COME CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE TODAY. 
          AND WE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT A PERFECT SOLUTION, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, OUR CLIENT IS AS WILLING TO DO AND AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK PROJECT WITH 50% OF THOSE UNITS BEING ACHIEVABLE. 
          UM, AND, AND MANY OF THOSE UNITS ARE A GOOD PORTION, BUT IT WAS BEING AVAILABLE TO FAMILIES THAT EARN, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN 60% OF MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE PROPERTY IS GREEN. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY DEVELOPMENT ON IT. 
          SO WE'RE NOT DIRECTLY DISPLACING PEOPLE. 
          ALTHOUGH I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT FOR THAT. 
          SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BRING MORE HOUSING HERE. 
          THE MORE HOUSING WE CAN GET HERE, THE GREATER AFFORDABILITY AND THE GREATER NUMBERS OF AFFORDABLE UNITS WE CAN OFFER IT IS ON IT. 
          IT ISN'T A GREAT LOCATION THAT WOULD ALSO HELP PEOPLE, UM, WHO HAVE LESS INCOME TO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A CAR BECAUSE IT IS CLOSE TO TRANSIT. 
          UM, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WILL SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY, UM, HERE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AT THIS LOCATION. 
          AND, UM, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND, UM, JUST PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LET'S VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC, HEARING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          SEE GREEN. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOT 12 FOR CLOSING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, WE'LL GO TO, UH, QUESTIONS, UM, WHO WANTS TO START COMMISSIONER SHEA? OKAY. 
          SO, UM, I'M GOING TO KIND OF HIT TWO DIFFERENT TIMES CAUSE I, UH, THOSE ARE THE TWO I'VE BEEN KIND OF HEARING QUITE A BIT. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, I HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE DEFINITE NEED FOR SOME TYPE OF AFFORDABILITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE ALL AGREED, YOU KNOW, HEARD ABOUT S3, NOT PROVIDING THAT, BUT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, TO SEE, SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS MF THREE. 
          SO STAFF, CAN YOU TELL ME, LIKE, SO UNDER MF THREE, ARE WE GETTING ANY AFFORDABILITY? IS THERE ANY AFFORDABILITY, DENSITY OR BONUS, OR 
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IS THERE ANYTHING UNDER MP3 THAT WE CAN GET THAT GIVES US AFFORDABILITY? UH, YES. 
          UH, THIS IS KATE CLARK. 
          UM, WITH TYPICAL CONVENTIONAL ZONING, THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY AFFORDABILITY INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE ZONING IF THE APPLICANT DECIDED TO APPLY FOR AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED. 
          UM, AND THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE PROCESS AND NOT PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE OR CASE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT, BUT IT SOUNDS OKAY. 
          SO UNDER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THERE THERE'S NO AFFORDABLE UNITS. 
          UM, AND LET ME ASK THE APPLICANT UNDER . 
          DID YOU EXPLORE TRYING TO SEE ANY AFFORDABILITY IN THAT OR IS THAT PRETTY MUCH WHAT'S THE YIELD IN THAT VERSUS AFFORDABILITY UNDER THE  AFFORDABILITY UNLOCK? I THINK YOU SAID WE'LL GET LIKE 50% AFFORDABLE UNITS WOULD  WE BEGIN A HUNDRED UNITS. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT?  IF YOU TRY TO DO SOME AFFORDABILITY THAT'S TO RON THROWER OR VICTORIA HOSPITAL, COMMISSIONER'S WRONG THROWER HERE. 
          UM, THE TABLE THAT VICTORIA PROVIDED TO YOU IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION SHOWED THAT UNDER MF THREE, WHICH WOULD BE A COMPLYING PLAN TO COMPATIBILITY. 
          THE, UH, THE MAXIMUM UNITS WOULD BE 80 AND THE, UH, AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE UNITS WOULD BE ZERO UNDER MS. FOUR. 
          UM, IT WOULD BE TOUGH TO ACHIEVE ANY ADDITIONAL HEIGHT THAN WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, UH, UNDER  BECAUSE OF COMPATIBILITY. 
          UH,  WOULD NOT ALSO PROVIDE ANY AFFORDABLE UNITS, UNLESS IT ALSO TOOK ADVANTAGE OF, UH, AFFORDABILITY ON LOCKED, BUT UNDER MF FOUR WITH AFFORDABILITY ON LOCKED, IT IS UNLIKELY THAT, UH, THAT, UH, THE FIVE FLOORS CAN BE ACHIEVED AND THE HIGHEST NECESSARY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, BUT  COULD USE AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK, BUT IT WOULD BE LESS AFFORDABLE UNITS THAN WHAT CAN BE ACHIEVED UNDER  WITH AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED. 
          GOTCHA. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND YOU DON'T KNOW A QUANTIFICATION APPROXIMATE OF THAT UNDER THE EMF SIX, THE NUMBER OF UNITS PROPOSED RIGHT NOW IS 200 UNDER MF FOR THE NUMBER OF UNITS IS MAX OUT AT 124, I BELIEVE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'D BE AT 60 MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE NEXT QUESTION I'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE, THE, UH, OF THE, UH, I GUESS, UH, UH, FORCING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GETTING FORCED OUT AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT AND BEING DISPLACED. 
          UM, IS THERE ANY TYPE OF MECHANISM TO GET SOME TYPE OF, UM, LIKE RIGHT TO RETURN? I MEAN, THE THING IS, AND WE'RE NOT REALLY DISPLACING ANYBODY, BUT TO ME, ANYTIME WE START LEVERAGING SOME TYPE OF AFFORDABILITY STUFF AND THE COMMUNITY THAT IS HOSTING THAT SOMEHOW I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD HAVE SOME, I DUNNO, SOME PREFERENCE OR SOME CONSIDERATION TO HAVE A RIGHT TO COME BACK. 
          LIKE WE HAVE A RIGHT TO RETURN, BUT THAT'S USUALLY WHEN WE DISPLACE, YOU'RE NOT DISPLACING, BUT HOW CAN WE ALLOW THE COMMUNITY TO BE BENEFIT TO BENEFIT FROM THESE AFFORDABLE UNITS? BECAUSE AS WE'VE HEARD THAT THESE ARE THE COMMUNITIES THAT REALLY NEED IT, AND BY PUTTING THIS MUCH DENSITY AND AFFORDABILITY, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN START SERVING THIS, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT THEY'RE AFRAID THAT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU'RE BUILDING THIS FOR THIS COMMUNITY. 
          WELL, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE COMMUNITY'S GETTING THAT. 
          I MEAN, IS THERE, IS, IS THERE, IS THERE SOME, SOME ISSUE OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP, YOU KNOW, PUT THE COMMITMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY? MR. SHAY, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. 
          UM, I WOULD LOVE TO EXPLORE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE WITH THE SAME ZIP CODE TO HAVE FIRST CHOICE IN HOUSING, IN AN AREA, IF IT'S AT ALL POSSIBLE. 
          UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S NOT A PROGRAM AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOR THAT. 
          UM, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT ANY WAY THAT WE CAN, UH, BUT THERE'S A BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO STEP UP WHEN UNITS DO BECOME AVAILABLE TO, TO APPLY FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OBVIOUSLY UNDER SINGLE FAMILY ZONING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BASICALLY GOING TO BE HOUSING. 
          THAT'S BUILT FOR THE PEOPLE MOVING HERE FROM CALIFORNIA. 
          SO THERE'S ZERO OPPORTUNITY AT THAT POINT. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR IF I KNOW MY TIME'S UP, BUT I DON'T KNOW STAFF COMMENTS ABOUT THAT. 
          CONTINUE COMMISSIONER SHANE'S QUESTIONS, OR I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, COMMISSIONER SINKER. 
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I WOULD LIKE TO REFER BACK TO JAMES CHAISE COMMISSIONER SHAY'S QUESTIONS ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          AND THEN I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED TO BE ASSURED THAT AS WELL, APPLY AT THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          SHOULD THEY GET THE ZONING? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER, SHOULD I, UM, SO MY QUESTION WAS BACK TO STAFF TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE TH THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT RIGHT TO RETURN AND A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH DISPLACEMENT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE NEED TO HAVE THIS LARGER CONVERSATION. 
          THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          THIS IS GOING TO BE ABOUT ANY OF THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY AS IT COMES INTO A COMMUNITY. 
          AND IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT TO HELP SERVE THAT COMMUNITY? UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME PREFERENTIAL BASIS, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, NOT BE HIT BY FAIR HOUSING LAWS. 
          UM, THIS IS KATE, UH, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          UM, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK IT DOES WARRANT A LARGER DISCUSSION. 
          AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WITH OUR STAFF, I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, REGARDING AFFORDABILITY UNLIMITED, WHAT GUARANTEES IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOING TO HAVE, SHOULD THIS APPLICANT  ZONING THAT A HALF, ONE, HALF OR 50% OF THESE UNITS WILL BE AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO READ THIS AT THE MFI THAT APPLIES. 
          IF THE, UM, IF THE APPLICANT IS APPROVED FOR NSX, ZONING, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE AFFORDED HERE. 
          KATE, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER? YEAH. 
          UM, SO COMMISSIONER SENIOR, YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT WHAT GUARANTEES YOU ALL HAVE OR WILL THERE BE, AND BEFORE WE GET TO COUNCIL, UM, WE WILL HAVE THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENT, UH, PUT IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THIS WILL BE, UH, AN AFFORDABILITY PROJECT. 
          UM, FURTHER, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE WAS A, UM, IN OUR PRESENTATION, WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT BEING MINDFUL OF THE CONTEXT, UM, ALONG THE TOPLESS AND, UH, NOT BEING ANY MORE THAN FIVE STORIES OR 75 FEET IN HEIGHT. 
          AND IF IT IS THE WILL OF, UH, THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT INTO SOME SORT OF A, PROBABLY A PUBLIC RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, BUT I WOULD LOOK TO STAFF TO CONFIRM THAT THAT, TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT, UM, TO, UH, TO 75 FEET 70, IT WAS, UH, PROPOSED IS 70 FEET. 
          YOU JUST SAID 75. 
          COULD YOU CLARIFY THAT? UH, I, I BELIEVE SINCE THE TIME I CREATED THAT PRESENTATION, WE FOUND THAT IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSER TO 75 FEET, NOT 70. 
          OKAY. 
          75 FEET AND FIVE STORIES. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          IN YOUR DESIGN. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS SITE PLAN, YOU HAD THE MF THREE M FOUR DESIGN WITH A SEPARATE BUILDINGS OR BETTER DESIGN. 
          HE, MF SIX IS JUST ONE LARGE BUILDING. 
          IS THERE CONSIDERATION OF SPENDING MORE TIME ON THE DESIGN OF THIS BUILDING OF THESE BUILDINGS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, PLEASE, PLEASE CONSIDER THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAME INTO THIS UNDERSTANDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION, AND WE KNEW THAT THE, THAT THIS MATTER WOULD ALSO COME UP AT COMMISSION. 
          SO WE DID OUR BEST TO TRY TO GET SOME RENDERINGS TOGETHER TO REPRESENT WHAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS COULD LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, BUT IT'S VERY EARLY ON IN, IN THE PROCESS. 
          UM, AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF TIME TO RECONSIDER AND LOOK AT, UM, DIFFERENT DESIGN OPTIONS, BETTER DESIGN OPTIONS FOR THINGS FOR THESE TRACKS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND PLEASE RECONFIRM THE MFI THAT YOU'LL BE APPLYING FOR. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE PARTICULAR BREAKDOWNS, BUT I KNOW THAT UNDER, UNDER TYPE TWO AFFORDABILITY ON PROJECT PROJECTS, 50% OF THOSE UNITS WOULD HAVE TO BE AFFORDABLE. 
          AND THE BREAKDOWN, UM, I'D HAVE TO REFER BACK TO CODES SPECIFICALLY. 
          UM, CAN WE GET ONE SECOND YEAR, AT LEAST AT LEAST 20% OF THOSE UNITS WOULD HAVE TO BE, UH, AVAILABLE TO INCOMES OF 50% OR BELOW 50% MFI OR BELOW, 
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UM, 50% HAPPY, UH, AVAILABLE TO 60% NSI OR BELOW. 
          AND OUT OF THAT 50%, 20% HAS TO BE, UM, AVAILABLE TO LESS THAN LESS THAN 50% MFI. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE ISN'T THAT CONCERNS MAY IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE INCOME OF THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA, IF IT'S NOWHERE NEAR SOME OF THOSE FIGURES. 
          SO WE, UH, I KNOW THAT THIS IS AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED. 
          I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP THAT THIS IS A VERY LOW INCOME AREA, AND I'M NOT SURE IF AFFORDABILITY BELLY UNLOCKED WILL HELP 50% OF THE UNITS I'M THROUGH WITH MY COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER WITH QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTIONS FIRST FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF THAT I'D LIKE TO IF POSSIBLE, CLEAR A FEW THINGS UP, BUT FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT, UH, YOU, YOU HAD A MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKED FOR A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WERE, THAT COULD NOT BE DONE OR THAT WERE NOT, I DON'T THINK YOU SAID REALISTIC, BUT YOU SAID THAT COULD NOT BE DONE. 
          I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THAT. 
          UM, AND IF YOU COULD GIVE US SOME SENSE OF WHAT WERE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKS FOR AND WHY THEY WERE NOT, UM, DOABLE. 
          UM, SO OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, UH, CAUSE I'D HAVE TO SCRAMBLE THROUGH AND FIND MY NOTES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS CAME ABOUT WITH, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS THEY WANTED, UH, UM, I GUESS WHAT WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS, IF IT WOULD BE EQUIVALENT TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE INVENTORY OR SOMETHING ACTUALLY GREATER THAN THAT TO BE PERFORMED FOR THE SITE. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO WANTING TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY, HOW MANY BEDROOMS, HOW MANY UNITS, UM, WITH THIS MANY BEDROOMS AND, AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE THOSE DETAILS LINED OUT JUST YET, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH AN AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED PROJECT, UM, YOU KNOW, SITE, AREA REQUIREMENTS DON'T APPLY. 
          AND SO THERE'S, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, DESIGN THAT HAS TO GO INTO DETERMINING SOME OF THAT. 
          SO, UM, WE GAVE THEM A BEST GUESS AT WHAT WE COULD COME UP WITH AT THIS POINT. 
          UM, AND IF FOR SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT THEY WERE REQUESTING, IT IT'S A LOT OF EXPENSE BEYOND WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS PROJECT COULD, YOU KNOW, HANDLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET THE ZONING OR NOT, UM, TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE SOME OF THOSE DOCUMENTS AND STUDIES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS REQUESTING. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE DID DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO, UM, WE DID DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO ENSURE, OR, OR LET THEM KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS, UM, STRICT REGULATIONS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE MATTERS CAME UP ABOUT, UH, THIS AREA OF MONTOPOLIS HAVING ISSUES WITH IMPERVIOUS COVER AND DRAINAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, W YOU KNOW, WITH CITY OF AUSTIN, CITY OF AUSTIN ADOPTING THE ATLAS 14 DATA AND, AND MORE STRICT REGULATIONS, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THIS SITE IS GOING TO HAVE TO, UM, DO THEIR PART TO NOT MAKE THE MATTER, ANY WORSE, UM, THAN IT ALREADY IS. 
          AND THEY WILL HAVE TO CAPTURE AND, AND, UM, PUT IN WATER QUALITY FOR ANY RUNOFF THAT THIS SITE PRODUCES. 
          SO IT CERTAINLY WON'T MAKE THE AREA ANY WORSE. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I AM NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT I WONDER IF AT LEAST HAVING SOME SORT OF DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE PUT IN HERE MIGHT, MIGHT HELP IN SOME WAY. 
          UM, BUT DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY DOESN'T ALLOW THOSE ISSUES TO BE MADE WORSE WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT COMING IN. 
          SO, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS WE KNEW WOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE TIME OF FLIGHT PLAN, AND THEY'RE JUST THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, DUE TO EXPENSE AND, AND TIMES, UM, WE JUST COULDN'T PRODUCE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          UM, WOULD IT BE REALISTIC TO PRODUCE, UM, A MORE FLESHED OUT, UH, PLANS, UM, AND POSSIBLY PROVIDE SOME MORE CONCRETE ANSWERS TO THE COMMUNITY AROUND SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS? UM, IF A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME WAS PROVIDED, UM, YOU KNOW, I REALLY, I WOULD HAVE TO REFER BACK TO OUR CLIENT ON THAT. 
          AND I REALLY DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW VERY GENERALLY THAT IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO GO INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, UM, TO GET, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S SITE PLANNING IS 
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WHAT IT IS, IT'S IT'S SITE PLANNING, UM, AND IT'S VERY COSTLY, VERY EXPENSIVE. 
          UM, BUT I DO WANT TO ALSO COMMENT TOO, THAT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BROUGHT UP WERE WITH REGARDS TO ECONOMIC JUSTICE IMPACTS GREENHOUSE GAS IMPACT FOR, UM, DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENS, UM, BOTH DURING THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT AND AFTERWARDS, UM, UM, THERE, THERE WERE, THERE WERE MANY OTHER THINGS THAT CAME ABOUT THAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, THIS DEVELOPMENT JUST CAN'T DO THAT. 
          I UNDERSTAND THERE'S THIS DESIRE AND NEED FOR THE MOST INFORMATION POSSIBLE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S DEVELOPMENT, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE. 
          I THINK MAYBE THE QUESTION IS NOT SO MUCH JUST A QUESTION OF INFORMATION, BUT OF, UH, SOMEHOW PROVIDING GREATER REASSURANCE TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT THERE WILL BE A COMMITMENT, UH, TO, TO SORT OF WORK WITH THEM. 
          AND I WONDER IF MORE COULD BE DONE IN THAT REGARD, BUT I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION THOUGH. 
          UM, ON THE MF FOR INITIALLY, WE WERE INFORMED THAT, UH, FOR AFFORDABILITY ON LOCKED WOULD ONLY WORK UNDER MF SIX, BUT THEN WE HEARD RIGHT NOW THAT AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED COULD BE A POSSIBILITY UNDER MF FOUR. 
          SORRY, I RE I RAN OUT OF TIME. 
          IF ANYONE WANTS TO CONTINUE THAT QUESTION, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED COULD WORK UNDER MFR. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, BEFORE YOU USE YOUR TIME. 
          I JUST WANT TO HAVE, UH, THERE'S A REMINDER THAT WE CANNOT REQUIRE PARTICIPATION IN AFFORDABILITY ONLINE, SO IT SHOULDN'T NOT BE CONSIDERED JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER MISSIONARY DID, UM, WAS THAT INFORMATION FORTHCOMING VIA THE APPLICANT? UM, TO FOLLOW UP WITH COMMISSIONER PAULO'S QUESTION AND IF NOT, THAT'S OKAY. 
          NO, IT'S JUST TO ALL OF US AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT QUESTIONING. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I WAS ASKING THE APPLICANT, UM, WHAT COMMISSIONER PAULO SAID THAT HE HEARD ABOUT  UM, IS THAT INFORMATION COMING FROM THE APPLICANT? YEAH, YOU'RE ASKING ME, I GUESS I'M ASKING THE APPLICANT OR SO MS. MS IS A PROCESS IN ITSELF CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED, UM, WITH AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK, UM, THE PROJECT NEEDS DUE TO IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH, UM, IF YOU GUYS WERE TO GET AN F FOR YOU, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO PARTICIPATE IN AFFORDABILITY AND IS, UM, IT'S THE PROJECT COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, RON THROW WE'RE HERE. 
          HI, YOU'RE HAVE SIX MSX DOES, UH, DOES PROVIDE MORE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES, BETTER PLANNING COULD ACHIEVE MORE UNITS UNDER MSX BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          UM, M F FOUR WITH AFFORDABLE, UM, UNLOCK AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK IS CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY. 
          YES, IT WOULD JUST BE LESS THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED UNDER MS. SIX. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I BELIEVE HER ONE OF YOU TWO TALKING A MOMENT AGO THAT BEFORE THIS WERE TO GET TO COUNCIL, IF YOU HAD THE, FOR EXAMPLE, MS. , THAT YOU WOULD HAVE A PRIVATE, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IN PLACE BEFORE COUNCIL, CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF YOU'VE GOT THE ZONE EVEN A SIX AND YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE THE AFFORDABILITY AND YOU WEREN'T GOING TO BUILD IT FOR ABILITY ON LOCK, DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE BASED ZONING IS NOW THAT'S AT THREE, OR I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU OR STAFF. 
          I BELIEVE IF WE DID NOT PRODUCE A RESTRICT TO CABINET, UH, THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR MS. THREE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE HERE WITH NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING SAFETY, MY WAY IN, ON THAT DATE, WE WILL PREPARE AN ORDINANCE WITH WHAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS THIS EVENING. 
          AND IF YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS , THAT'S WHAT THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE FOR. 
          UM, THE COUNCIL COULD DECIDE AT THAT TIME WHETHER OR NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MSX OR AMENDED TO MS. THREE, BUT WE WOULDN'T. 
          UM, IF THERE WASN'T THE PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IN PLACE, STAFF WOULD NOT MAKE THE DECISION TO REVERT TO  WITHOUT IT GOING TO COUNCIL AND BEING TOLD TO DO SO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND COULD YOU REMIND ME THE DESIGN DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THREE AND FOUR? I FORGOTTEN THEM. 
          I THOUGHT WE'D BE DONE WITH THREE AND FOUR BY NOW. 
          UM, THE HEIGHT IS THE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS, UH, IN MS. THREE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD UP TO 40 FEET AND MS. FOUR THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD UP TO 60. 
          UM, THE FRONT SETBACK FOR MS IS 25 FEET FOR  15 FOR THE SIDE STREET, UM, AND REAR THEY'RE ALL THE SAME. 
          THE MAXIMUM BUILDING COVERAGE IS DIFFERENT THAN MS. THREE IT'S 55% VERSUS 
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60%. 
          THE IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          IT IS 65% IN MP3 VERSUS 70% IN MF FOUR. 
          AND THE FAR IS THE SAME. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHAW. 
          HELLO. 
          UH, SO THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT IF THEY CAN'T ANSWER IT, THEN IT WOULD BE STAFF. 
          SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, UH, AND I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO BASE OUR DECISION, UH, OR REQUIRE AFFORDABILITY, BUT ON THE MF THREE, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT SAID COMPATIBILITY RESTRICTED THE HEIGHT ON THE , BUT IF YOU GO WITH AN AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED, I THOUGHT THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO, THAT, UH, THE COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. 
          UM, SO YOU WOULD NOT BE RESTRICTED DUE TO COMPATIBILITY. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE AFFORDABILITY AND LOCK THAT IT GETS YOU, IT GETS YOU OUT OF THOSE, UH, COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, I GUESS WE'LL START WITH THE APPLICANT. 
          SO IN THAT THREE, UM, IN THE THREE, WOULD THAT IN AFFORDABILITY ON LOTS PROJECT HERE UNDER NSF, CORRECT. 
          THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH COMPATIBILITY, BUT AS RON STATED EARLIER WITH AN MFP PROJECT, THERE ISN'T A PLAN TO DO AN AFFORDABILITY AND LAUNCH PROGRAM, UM, TO APPLY FOR THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCK PROGRAM, UH, WITH AN MS. THREE, UH, DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO IN THAT SENSE, IF MS THREE, IF STAFF WERE TO, YOU KNOW, IF COUNCIL WERE TO GO WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND THAT'S THREE, UM, COMBAT COMPATIBILITY WOULD APPLY, UM, BECAUSE IT IT'S, IT'S NOT PREPARED TO BE AN AFFORDABILITY AND PROJECT AT THAT TIME AND COMMISSIONER, THIS IS RON THROWER. 
          IF I COULD JUST ADD, I'M GOING TO TRY AND SIMPLIFY THIS UNDER MS. THREE, IF AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED WITH THOUGHT, THEN THAT WOULD BE A PROJECT WITH LESS IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, BUT AT A MAXIMUM OF 60 FEET IN HEIGHT, AND THEREFORE COULD ACHIEVE THE HEIGHT THAT IS PROPOSED UNDER THE  PROPOSAL THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE IS LESS UNDER INBEV FOUR. 
          SO THE UNITS WOULD BE LAST MF SIX WITH A AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, LIMITING IT TO FIVE STORIES WOULD PROVIDE UP TO A HUNDRED UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          IT'S NOT THAT YOU CAN'T, IT'S JUST, I GUESS, FOR THE, UH, THE APPLICANT, IT'S JUST NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE, UH, WITH THE RESTRICTIONS ON NET MP3 ZONING. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M HEARING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THAT'S ALL I, THAT'S ALL I HAD. 
          YEAH. 
          COMMISSIONERS ARE. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          AND I GUESS WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO COMMISSIONER CGD GONE WITH LIKE A SECOND SPOT, HOPEFULLY. 
          UM, SO I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          THIS IS FOR STAFF, STEPHANIE, PLEASE CONFIRM. 
          I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE FINDING OF THE GOURD IS CORRECT THAT THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED PROGRAM REQUIRES 50% OF AFFORDABLE UNITS. 
          20% OF THOSE HAVE TO BE AT 50% MFI AND LORE AND 30 HAVE TO BE AT 60% MFI IN LORE. 
          AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, 25% OF ALL THE UNITS HAVE TO DO OR MORE BEDROOMS OR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR HOUSING FOR SENIORS. 
          AM I CORRECT? MR. SORRY. 
          I'VE UM, I'VE JUST FOUND THE AFFORDED PLAN, LOTS OF ORDINANCE. 
          AND I'M READING THROUGH IT, UM, AT THIS, AT THIS TIME, I CAN'T CONFIRM YOUR, UM, THOUGHTS RIGHT NOW, BUT I WILL, I WILL TRY AND CATCH UP AND READING THE ORDINANCE. 
          UM, AND IF YOU COULD CIRCLE BACK TO ME, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, MY OTHER QUESTION WAS FOR STAFF IN THE AFRICAN BOAT, CAN YOU ALL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE FLOODING ISSUES THAT ONE OF THE SPEAKERS AND MENTIONED, CAN YOU SPEAK TO SORT OF WHAT IS BEING DONE? WHAT ARE THE FLOODING ISSUES AND WHAT IS BEING DONE TO COUNTER THEM? UH, THIS IS KATE, UM, WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          WE'RE NOT LOOKING INTO THE FLOODING ISSUES AT THIS TIME. 
          I DO KNOW THAT WATER QUALITY AND DETENTION IS PART OF THE SITE PLANNING STAGE, AND THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH THAT REVIEW PROCESS AT 
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THAT POINT, BUT THERE ISN'T A STUDY BEING CONDUCTED CURRENTLY. 
          AND IF I AM GRANT, THIS IS NOT WITHIN THE FRONT LANE. 
          I'M SORRY, THAT'S THE QUESTION. 
          AND SO WHEN CONFIRM THAT THIS IS NOT WITHIN THE, IT IS NOT IN A FLOODPLAIN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND THEN IF WE CAN CIRCLE BACK ON THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCK AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS, JUST SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY OR RECONSIDERING, WHATEVER WE TALK ABOUT , UM, COMMISSIONER I SAW IN THE AREA THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING WITH THE 50% AT 50% OF THE TOTAL UNITS WITH 60% MFI AND 20% AT THE 50% MFI I'M HAVING TROUBLE LOCATING. 
          I THINK YOU HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING WITH 25%, THAT WAS FOR BEDROOM GOWNS. 
          I THINK THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT THAT 25% OF ALL UNITS HAVE TO HAVE TWO OR MORE BEDROOMS. I THINK, UM, I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK. 
          I KNOW THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO DEVELOPMENT, AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE DETAILS OF THIS ORDINANCE, BUT, UM, LOOKING AT IT, WHAT YOU'VE STATED, IT LOOKS CORRECT FOR TYPE ONE DEVELOPMENT. 
          I WOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE READING FOR TYPE TWO AND SEE IF IT CHANGED AT ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEVEL HE WASN'T GOING. 
          IT SAID 60, 40% OF UNITS SAID 50% OF THE FIGHTING. 
          THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION. 
          TWO MORE SPOTS. 
          ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? UM, JUST YOU'RE MUTED COMMISSIONER SENIOR YEAR MUNIN. 
          OKAY, SORRY. 
          UM, TYPE TWO IT'S 50% ARE TWO OR MORE BEDROOMS. AND, UH, MY CLARIFICATION QUESTION, IS THIS GOING TO BE A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT OR A PUBLIC RESTRICTED COVENANT? I'VE HEARD BOTH TERMS USED. 
          COULD STEP, PLEASE CLARIFY THAT IF THE APPLICANT WANTED TO MAKE AN AGREEMENT TO WORK WITH THE THIRD PARTY FOR 4 BILLION UNLOCKED, IT WOULD BE A PRIVATE, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. 
          IT WOULD NOT BE A PUBLIC ONE. 
          SO IT'D BE A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT BETWEEN THE THIRD PARTY AND THE APPLICANT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          IS, UH, BUT WOULDN'T IT BE A PUBLIC IF THERE'S A CEO TO RESTRICT THE HEIGHT OR THE FLOORS? YES, IT BE, UM, THERE WOULD BE A CEO TO RESTRICT TYPE AND FLOORS. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          I DO NOT KNOW ANY OTHER RESTRICTION. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE PUBLIC REALM. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOT ONE MORE SPOT FOR A QUESTION, MR. CENTER. 
          I HATE TO KEEP COMING BACK. 
          UM, BUT I JUST HAD ANOTHER QUESTION IF, UM, I THINK THIS IS FOR STAFF, BUT THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO ASK IT AND ENTER IT AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE  AND THE APPLICANT SHOWS TO PURSUE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT FEWER UNITS WOULD BE AVAILABLE THAN IF WE WERE TO APPROVE MSX. 
          W WHAT WOULD CHANGE IN TERMS OF THE ABILITY OF THE APPLICANT UNDER AFFORDABILITY ON LOCKED WITH MF FOR, IN TERMS OF HEIGHT, HOW HIGH WOULD THE APPLICANT BE ABLE TO BUILD WITH A ZONING OF MF FOR IF THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF AFFORDABILITY LOCK? OKAY. 
          WITH AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, UM, TYPE ONE, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS 1.2, FIVE TIMES. 
          SO WITH THE MS FOR AT 60 FEET, THEY'D BE ALLOWED TO DO 75 SEATS AT TYPE ONE. 
          IF THEY DID TYPE TWO DEVELOPMENT IT'S ONE AND A HALF TIMES, AND THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO GO TO 90 FEET AT THAT POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, 
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WHAT WERE THE, I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT WAS, UH, TALKING ABOUT, UH, RESTRICTIONS OF 75 FEET AT FIVE STORIES THAT, SO, UM, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE THAT WAS, I THINK THE APPLICANT WAS SAYING WITH THE MS. SIX ZONING USING AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK, THEY'D BE ABLE TO GO TO ONLY 75 FEET AND FIVE STORIES. 
          CAN YOU, CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THAT DISCREPANCY? CAN I JUST, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          UM, SO IT'S, SO UNDER AN AFFORDABILITY, I'M LOCKED IN A FIXED PROJECT. 
          YOU ARE CORRECT. 
          THEY COULD ACHIEVE UP TO, UM, UP TO WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS. 
          1.5 TIMES 90 FEET IN HEIGHT. 
          UM, THE REASON WHY WE SAY IT WOULDN'T GO MORE THAN 75 FEET IS CAUSE WE, WE ARE, OUR CLIENTS PRETTY OWNER IS DOESN'T WANT TO DO MORE THAN FIVE STORIES. 
          HE RECOGNIZES THAT ANY MORE THAN THAT, IT'S JUST NOT, UM, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO FIT IN WELL WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE LANDSCAPE. 
          AND, AND HE'S NOT HERE TO DROP A BIG BUILDING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF, OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HE WANTS TO MAKE IT, UM, CONTEXTUALLY SENSITIVE AS POSSIBLE WHILE ALSO BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE A GOOD LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY, UM, AND, AND UNITS. 
          SO HE REALLY, UM, HE'S WILLING TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT OF AN AFFORDABILITY PROJECT. 
          THANKS. 
          AND SO IF, UH, IF WE WERE TO APPROVE  AND THE APPLICANT TOOK ADVANTAGE OF AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, WOULD THAT 75 FOOT FIVE STORY LIMIT IMPACT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS? I THINK YOU SAID THE, SOMETHING LIKE A TOTAL OF 120 UNITS WOULD BE ABLE TO BE BUILT WITH MS. FOUR UNDER AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED. 
          OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE LAST UNIT W LESS THAN 120 IT'S COVERED IN . 
          UM, IT WOULD ACHIEVE LESS UNITS THAN AN MSX DEVELOPMENT WOULD WITH THE SAME HEIGHT RESTRICTION. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          I THINK, UM, EARLIER SOMEONE SAID THAT MF FOR TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS WOULD BE 120. 
          AND IF THAT IS, DOES THAT ASSUME OTHER FACTORS BEING EQUAL? LIKE THE LIMITATION ON HEIGHT WOULD STILL BE 75 FEET, BUT THE 120 WHATEVER NUMBER WAS QUOTED EARLIER FOR MFR, THAT WAS JUST STANDARD. 
          THAT WAS, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT UNDER STANDARD IN A SPORE ZONING THAT DID NOT INCLUDE THE POTENTIAL FOR AFFORDABILITY AND LOCK. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, UM, I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED THEN IF WE APPROVED MS. FOUR AND THAT TOOK ADVANTAGE OF AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED IT, UH, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED, I, UM, MY GUESS IS IT WOULD BE ABOUT 10% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT THEY MESSED UP WITH WITHIN ETHICS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, CAN YOU HELP OUT WITH THAT? OR IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE AT A TIME. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, AND IT'S HAPPENING AT SOMETHING, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S MORE TIME TO GET OUR LAST SPOT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THAT WAS, UM, OUR EIGHT SPOTS. 
          UM, BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD TO SOMEONE MAKING A MOTION, JUST REMEMBER AFFORDABLE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED SHOULD NOT IMPACT ANY DECISIONS. 
          THE CEO CAN INCLUDE HEIGHT, BUT NOT TIE TO AFFORDABILITY OR MEETING AFFORDABILITY. 
          SO WITH THAT, UM, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION MISSIONARY OR A CHAIR? SHAW YOU'RE ON MUTE? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
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SECOND COMMISSIONER SENIOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, VOTING ON, UH, EMOTION GOING, MAKE US GO A STAFFER. 
          SORRY. 
          YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UH, YES, THAT'S THE TWO, UM, WAIT, I'M SORRY. 
          CAN, UH, CHAIR SHOT, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION FIRST? UH, YES. 
          JUST A LOT OF COMPLEXITIES HERE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE GENTRIFICATION MAP. 
          SO THIS IS IN THE MOST VULNERABLE AREA. 
          UH, IT IS THE MOST VULNERABLE AREA OF TOWN. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, UPGRADED STUDY, UM, IT IS A VACANT LOT. 
          THERE'S NOTHING THERE. 
          SO IT WOULD BENEFIT FROM PUTTING HOUSING THERE. 
          SO WE HAVE CHOICES, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE WANT TO PUT THERE? UH, I KNOW WE CAN'T REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THE LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY OR REQUIRE THAT. 
          UM, BUT THEN HAVE THREE, YOU CAN, THEY CAN PURSUE THAT. 
          I KNOW, YOU KNOW, PENCE PENCIL OR PAPER THEY'RE TELLING US IT'S, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE FOR THEM, BUT YOU CAN'T USE A, YOU ORDINANCE WITH THEM AT THREE. 
          IT IS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, SO I THINK A GIVEN STAT STAFF HAS, UH, TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS CONTEXTUALLY IS A BETTER FIT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I AGREE. 
          UH, LOOKING AT THE RENDERINGS, I THINK, I THINK IT LOOKS TO BE A GOOD FIT IF THEY BUILT SOMETHING, UH, TO THAT THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT. 
          SO I THINK AM AT THREE IS A GOOD MATCH HERE. 
          SURE. 
          SAY YOU HAD A SUBSTITUTE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I, I MEAN, WE GOT TO AT LEAST SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME AFFORDABILITY HERE, SO I, I'M SORRY. 
          I GOTTA MAKE THE MOTION FOR THE  WITH THE 75 FOOT, UM, AND FIVE STORY LIMITATIONS. 
          SO THAT'S MY MOTION. 
          UM, IS THERE ANY WAY BE WILLING TO INSTEAD OF 75 FEET TO MAKE IT 65 FEET IN THE CONDITIONER AROUND FIVE STORY BUILDING THAT'S UNDER 65 FEET. 
          SO I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THAT BECAUSE I, I, I HAD A LITTLE ISSUE WITH THE 70, 75, I MEAN, BUT WE WANT FIVE STORIES. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN HOLD TO THAT. 
          I WOULDN'T DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT, MICHELLE, DID YOU ALREADY SPEAK TO YOUR EMOTION? OKAY. 
          AND WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTHER? YEAH. 
          AND, AND I'M SORRY. 
          I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I FEEL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I MEAN, I I'M TELLING YOU THAT THE CITY AND THIS WHOLE AUSTIN METRO IS, IS IN, UH, IS IN CRISIS, RIGHT? SO, UM, THERE ARE HOMES THAT ARE BELOW THE MEDIAN HOME PRICE THAT ARE NOW BIDDING UP. 
          I MEAN, I'M, I'M SEEING OFFERS THAT ARE GETTING 85 OFFERS, 102 OFFERS AND THINGS BELOW THE MEDIAN HOME PRICE ARE BIDDING UP 25 TO 30% ABOVE. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE HOUSING THAT PRICES THAT ARE GOING INTO TERRITORY, WE DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND. 
          AND WE, WE HAVE TESLA GOING DOWN THE STREET, WE HAVE THE VELOCITY. 
          NOW WE HAVE, WE HAVE ORACLE COMING. 
          WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AMAZON WITH ADDITIONAL HUBS, SAMSUNG ANNOUNCING ANOTHER 10 POSSIBLE $10 BILLION, UM, UH, CHIP PLANT. 
          I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE HEADED ON, ON THEIR HOUSING. 
          AND I'M, I'M HONESTLY, I'M, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S HEADED AND IT REALLY HAS BEEN VERY NERVOUS. 
          AND IF WE DON'T START TAKING SOME, SOME MORE CREATIVE AND MORE AGGRESSIVE MEASURES, THEN WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY HOUSING FOR ANYBODY, WHETHER IT BE URINATE OR ANYBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD OF BEING ABLE TO EVEN LIVE HERE, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S THE, THE MONEY THAT'S COMING IN IS, IS, IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT AUSTIN IS USED TO. 
          AND WE NEED TO START TAKING STEPS TO BE, TO THINK AHEAD, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE HOUSING EXACTLY. 
          FOR THE TYPE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE NEIGHBORHOOD TALKING ABOUT, AND THIS IS THE STEP WE HAVE TO TAKE. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S ON AN ASM P WE WERE COMMITTED WITH, TO THE ASM P AND WE'RE ALSO COMMITTED TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LAND USE, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, W WITH TRANSPORTATION LEVERAGING THE TWO TO CREATE MORE AFFORDABILITY. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE TO THINK ABOUT TWO PLACES TO PUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          SO, I MEAN, I'M SORRY. 
          I MEAN, I, WE NEED TO BE TAKING BIGGER THOUGHTS OF NOT JUST OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD, I MEAN, BUT THE WHOLE DYNAMICS OF HOW THE CITY IS CHANGING. 
          OTHERWISE, THERE'S A POINT WHERE NONE OF US ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD HERE IF WE'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, OLD AUSTINITES. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING THAT MOTION. 
          ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST THAT MOTION? COMMISSIONER SHAW. 
          YES. 
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JUST A FEW POINTS HERE. 
          UM, FIRST OF ALL, DURING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DEBATE, UH, COUNCIL WAS UNANIMOUS. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST MAP PRODUCED THIS AREA, WAS THEY, THEY ALL AGREED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO ACCELERATE GENTRIFICATION IF THEY OBSERVED THESE AREAS AND THEY DID NOT PROVIDE, THEY PROVIDED SINGLE FAMILY ZONING AS CURRENTLY EXIST FOR THESE LOTS. 
          AND I I'M PRETTY SURE COUNCIL WAS UNANIMOUS. 
          THEY WANTED A HANDS-OFF APPROACH TO THESE VARIOUS. 
          AND I THINK THAT ALL OF THOUGH, IT'S NOT A POLICY, UH, THEY WERE DEFINITELY HEADED THAT DIRECTION WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE LAND CODE, WHICH DIDN'T HAPPEN. 
          BUT, UH, I'M JUST FOLLOWING THAT LEAD IN KIND OF THE WAY I'M THINKING HERE RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, SECONDLY, THIS CAME TO US ALREADY AS SF SIX. 
          I, I JUST FIND IT, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO GO WITH MSX NOW JUST SEEMS A LITTLE LIKE WE'RE OVERDOING IT. 
          I MEAN, I HAD A PROBLEM WITH SF SIX N FOR THE REASONS I JUST STATED THIS IS ACTUALLY ADDING MORE, UH, TO THAT, UH, PIECE OF PROPERTY. 
          SO I HAVE A PROBLEM FOR THAT REASON. 
          ALSO, IT ISN'T EXACTLY ON, UH, THE TRAN, UH, THE TRANSIT, UH, TRANSPORTATION PRIORITY NETWORK. 
          I KNOW IT'S CLOSE, BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT ON THE NETWORK PATH. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S ANOTHER REASON I DON'T SEE, WE NEED TO ADD ALL THIS DENSITY AT THIS LOCATION. 
          FOR THOSE REASONS, I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST AN A SIX, ANY SPEAKERS FOR MISSIONARY ANDERSON. 
          AND SO, UH, THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU WENT AND THAT WE'VE ALL TALKED A LOT ABOUT OVER THE YEARS, AND THIS IS AN INTERESTING PARCEL AND THAT IT IS ON MONTOPOLIS. 
          THERE ARE ZERO HOMES ON IT. 
          IT'S A LARGE PARCEL AND THE DEVELOPER IS AGREEING TO WORK UNDER AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED. 
          I REALLY DON'T SEE COUNCIL PASSING THAT AS , IF WE DON'T, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IN PLACE. 
          SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT ASSURANCE FROM THEM. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF DISHEARTENING TO THINK THAT WE'RE STARTING TO HEAR MORE AND MORE LIKE, WELL, AFFORDABILITY AND LOCK JUST ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH. 
          IT'S JUST NOT AFFORDABLE ENOUGH IN WHICH CASE WE'RE LEFT WITH SF THREE ZONING. 
          IS THERE TODAY, WHICH WE KNOW IS GOING TO BE UNAFFORDABLE TO THE VAST MAJORITY, NOT JUST OF THE GOOD FOLKS LIVING IN, ON TOP OF THIS, BUT ALL AUSTINITES. 
          AND SO EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO GET A WHOLE LOT MORE HOUSING ON THE GROUND ON VACANT LAND, ON, YOU KNOW, GREAT STREETS OF AUSTIN. 
          LIKE THIS IS JUST SUCH A NO BRAINER IN MY OPINION. 
          AND I HAVE TO SEE THIS THROUGH ANY SPEAKERS AGAINST COMMISSIONERS, OUR CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SECOND SUBSTITUTION. 
          SO I THINK YOU THINK OF THIS DEBATE I'M GOING TO DO, UM, MAKE US A SOLUTION THAT WE GO WITH MFA FOR. 
          SO WE WOULD . 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT? I THINK I HAVE TO VOTE ON THE INITIAL SUBSTITUTION BEFORE WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE A SECOND. 
          YEAH, I'M PRETTY SURE WE CAN'T DO A STEP INTO A SUBSTITUTION. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN I WILL WAIT MY TURN TO DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE'LL GO BACK TO ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST THE MOTION FOR MS.  WITH A 65 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT AND FIVE STORY LIMIT MISSIONARIES IN HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST THINK THAT EVERYTHING INDICATES THAT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT DENSE HOUSING. 
          I KNOW THAT WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND 50% AFFORDABLE IS REALLY ENTICING. 
          HOWEVER, WHEN YOU HAVE THE UPROOTED STUDY, YOU HAVE THE COUNCIL DIRECTION. 
          IT'S REALLY NOT ON THE HIGH PRIORITY NETWORKS. 
          WHY DO WE WANT TO APPLY THE RULES THAT WE WOULD APPLY? YES, WE NEED A PORTABLE HOUSING, BUT JUST NOT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DOES NOT WANT IT. 
          AND THE UPROOTED STUDY, WHICH WE, WE QUOTE A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE WANT SOMETHING FROM THAT STUDY, BUT WE IGNORE IT WHEN IT DOESN'T GO WITH WHAT WE'RE THINKING AT THE TIME. 
          LET'S LISTEN TO THE UPROOTED STUDY, LET'S DESIGN, ACCORDING TO THE UPROOTED STUDY AND LEAD THESE CHALLENGE NEIGHBORHOODS ALONE, SUCH AS COUNCIL DIRECTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY SPEAKERS FOR THE MOTION? 
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OKAY. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK NEUTRAL. 
          SO I THINK, UH, CARMEN, UM, I CAN WAIT. 
          I WANTED TO SPEAK AGAINST, UM, WHY DON'T YOU GO KOSHER CONNOLLY SINCE YOU'RE SPEAKING NEUTRAL AND THEN COMMISSIONER . 
          UM, SO I MEAN, THIS IS A HELL OF A CASE I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT I DON'T LIKE ANY OF THE MOTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT FORWARD, UM, ENTIRELY, UH, THE APPLICANT DID EXPRESS A DESIRE TO SHOW A CERTAIN SENSITIVITY TO THE CONTEXT. 
          AND I WONDER IF THE APPLICANT COULD DO MORE TO SORT OF MAKE CLEAR THAT INTENTION TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THAN WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I FEEL LIKE SEVERAL STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE BROUGHT UP WITH REGARDS TO, UM, HOUSING, I THINK ARE JUST WRONG. 
          LIKE THE IDEA THAT DENSER HOUSING IN SOME WAYS, GENTRIFICATION IS JUST, IT DOESN'T HOLD UP. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, DOES THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THE NEW, THE OLD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN MONTOPOLIS MIGHT BE WORKING CLASS HOMES, BUT THE NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT WILL BE BUILT ON THAT LOT WILL NOT BE WORKING CLASS HOMES. 
          THEY WILL BE HOMES FOR WEALTHY PEOPLE, AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL NOT, WILL NOT LIKELY BE PEOPLE OF COLOR EITHER. 
          UM, SO I THINK THERE'S A VERY, UH, AND IF YOU WALK AROUND THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE BEAST THAT'S SWALLOWING, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS FLIPPED, FLIPPED HOUSES, REALLY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES BEING FLIPPED AND PUT BACK ON THE MARKET FOR SIGNIFICANT INFREQUENTLY MORE. 
          SO I JUST FEEL LIKE AT THE SAME TIME, IF A CASE LIKE THIS WERE TO COME UP IN DISTRICT NINE OR DISTRICT FIVE OR SOME OTHER PART OF TOWN, WOULD WE REALLY BE EVEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION OR WOULD WE HAVE ALREADY COME UP WITH SOME EXCUSE TO KILL IT? SO WHY IS IT THAT WE'RE ALWAYS HAVING THESE CASES SPECIFICALLY ABOUT DISTRICTS THREE DISTRICTS, ONE, YOU KNOW, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE A CASE LIKE THIS IN HIGHER OPPORTUNITY, PARTS OF TOWN, WHY ARE WE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT STACKING THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRECISELY IN THE, IN THE, IN THE LOWER INCOME AND MORE VULNERABLE PARTS OF TOWN? SO I FEEL HELLA CONFLICTED. 
          I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE HOW I'M GOING TO VOTE YET, BUT, UM, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S JUST SO MUCH ABOUT THIS CASE THAT DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHO CAN BLAME THEM FOR ONLY WANTING WHAT OTHER MORE AFFLUENT PARTS OF TOWN ALREADY HAVE, WHICH IS THE ABILITY TO KILL A PROJECT LIKE THIS COMMISSIONER YANAS PLAY-DOH YEAH. 
          I'LL ECHO SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SHARED AND JUST WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT WHEN WE MAKE THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF INCREASING ENTITLEMENTS, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FEW PLACES WHERE THE CITY DOES HAVE A LOT OF POWER TO CHANGE LAND VALUE IN USE. 
          UM, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE LOT ITSELF, BUT ALSO THE PRECEDENT THAT WE'RE SETTING IN THE AREA, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY THERE IS SO MUCH CONCERN AROUND MONTOPOLIS BECAUSE OF THE PRECEDENT THAT YOU WOULD BE SETTING, UM, BY UP ZONING, UM, TO , TO EMMA FOR, AND CERTAINLY TO MF SIX, UM, IT'S A HUGE INCREASE IN LAND VALUE. 
          IT SHOOTS THAT UP AND IT'S CERTAINLY TRUE THAT NEWER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE SHOWING UP WAY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN EXISTING FAMILY HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          THAT'S ALSO TRUE ABOUT, UM, DENSE RENTAL HOUSING AND CONDOS. 
          THE NEW STUFF IS FAR OUT OF REACH OF A LOT OF THE REALLY IMPACTED COMMUNITIES. 
          AND, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, OUR GOOD FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES, LIZ MUELLER, AND HEATHER WAY HAVE GONE IN DEPTH, LOOKING AT MANY OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK AROUND US. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE TO SHOW US THAT ZONING WILL MAKE THINGS AFFORDABLE, UM, AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED OR NOT AT THE TABLE. 
          AGAIN, WE HAVE, I REALLY WANT TO REMIND FOLKS THAT THAT IS A TOOL INTENTION. 
          THE INTENTION AROUND THAT IS FOR, UH, NOT THESE GENDER HEAVILY GENTRIFYING. 
          IT'S REALLY TO CREATE MORE DENSE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS THAT HAVE NOT HAD THESE KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES HERE. 
          WE ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT SEVERELY INCREASING THE LAND VALUE, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD OUR WAY OUT OF THE HOUSING CRISIS ALONE BECAUSE OF THE INVESTMENT COMING FROM OUT OF STATE OUT OF THE COUNTRY. 
          UM, SO I THINK THIS IS, IF ANYTHING, THIS IS THE FINAL FRONTIER. 
          I MEAN, ONE TOP LIST IS OUR LAST 90% PEOPLE OF COLOR, YOU KNOW, PREDOMINANTLY, TRULY WORKING CLASS COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD MORE DENSELY. 
          I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO IT HERE UNLESS THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY DRIVING IT. 
          WELL, THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT WAS ALL OF OUR SPOTS. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, WHICH IS A REMINDER, UM, WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER CHAISE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON 
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FOR MF SIX, WITH A CEO OF A 65 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT AND FIVE STORY LIMIT. 
          SO, UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION. 
          ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FOUR, ALL THOSE AGAINST, SORRY. 
          SORRY. 
          I HOLD THEM UP. 
          SORRY. 
          I'M STILL COUNTING ONE SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          MY COMPUTER FROZE. 
          I THINK THAT'S EIGHT, FOUR EIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT SUBSTITUTE MOTION DOES NOT PASS. 
          UM, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION, UM, BY COMMISSIONER CHAIR, SHAW SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SEEKER TO GO WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION COMMISSIONER ARE AT THIS MOMENT, WHATEVER HE BROUGHT BEFORE ME TO ME, CAUSE MOTION, MOTION. 
          I'M GOING TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION FOR, UM, ESSENTIALLY GO FOR MFA FOR WHEN A HEIGHT LIMIT OF 72ND COMMISSIONER SHEA. 
          RIGHT. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR EMOTION COMMISSIONERS? SURE. 
          I THINK I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT A LOT OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD SAID. 
          I THINK THAT THERE IS, UM, I THINK MF SIX WOULD NOT MAKE SENSE IN THIS AGE. 
          AND I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT TO SAY HAVING ACCESS TO YOU WITHOUT ANY AFFORDABILITY, LEDGED WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE TO ME EITHER. 
          SO I'M GOING WITH EMMA FOR, WITH THE HOPE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD DO EVOLVE IN YOUR SECTOR GOVERNANCE. 
          WE'RE NOT REQUIRING IT, BUT IT WON'T BE GOVERNANCE THAT BEFORE GOING TO COUNCIL, THAT REALLY ALLOWS THEM TO BE SURE THAT THEY ARE PLEDGING TO USE AFFORDABLE LAW. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE 50% UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE AT VARYING LEVELS. 
          WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE HYDROSTATIC THEN I WOULD, AT THE SAME TIME, WANT TO PUT OUT IT WAS I'M SPEAKING TO MY MOTION TO ALSO EXPLORE A PREFERENCE POLICY OR RIDER FOR DARREN SIMILAR TO WHAT COMMISSIONER SHE HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT. 
          AND ALSO SPEAKING TO SOME DEGREE THROUGH THEIR PROPORTIONAL BEDROOM DOWN AND SAYING THAT THE AFFORDABLE UNITS CAN NOT ALL BE SMALL UNITS. 
          THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE SIMILAR TO WHAT IS IN THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF ALONG WITH SORT OF PLEDGING DO FORMATIVE MARKETING. 
          AND THE LAST PIECE I WOULD SAY IS THAT I THINK AS YOU'RE MAKING THOSE BUDGETS, I REALLY HOPE THAT WHATEVER THEY AGREED AND DO COMMISSIONER CONLEY'S POINT IS CONTEXT SENSITIVE. 
          AND SO IT CANNOT BE A GATED COMMUNITY. 
          IT REALLY HAS TO BE IN LEAN INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. 
          SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          CAN WE START, UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BUILD ALL THAT INTO, UH, IN THIS MOTION. 
          UM, JAY SHY WAS SAYING MY EMOTION IS MFR WITH A CEO OF THE HYDRO 70, AND THAT I'M SAYING THAT MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT THEY CAN SIGN IN GOVERNANCE AS IT MOVED TOWARDS COUNCIL. 
          SO WE'RE NOT REQUIRING IT IN ANY WAY AS WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REQUIRE THAT, BUT I REALLY HOPE AS THEY GO TOWARDS COUNCIL, THEY WILL TAKE A STRONG LOOK AT AFFORDABILITY AND LOFT AND WORK ON SOMETHING THAT REALLY PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT AS A BE JUST AS NSX, BUT ALSO ALLOWS, AND ACTUALLY DO SOME COMMUNITY BENEFIT IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY. 
          AND THAT IS WHY I'M PROPOSING FOR EMMA. 
          BUT THANK YOU, CHERISH ALL FOR POINTING THAT OUT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO JUST CLARIFICATION, IT'S A MOTION FOR MF FOUR WITH A HEIGHT LIMIT SEAL FOR OUR HEIGHT MEMBERS. 
          YES. 
          FOR HEIGHT LIMIT OF 70. 
          AND THAT'S A SEAL 70. 
          OKAY. 
          CHAIR. 
          UH, THIS IS KATE CLARK. 
          I WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THE BASE DISTRICT IS 60 FEET FOR MS. FOR, WE CAN'T DO A THEO FOR, UH, A HIGHER HEIGHT THAN THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, IN THAT CASE, I WILL TAKE BACK MY C ALTOGETHER AND JUST SAY, MY EMOTION IS FOR MFR. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY I'M SPEAKING AGAINST COMMISSIONER SHAW OR CHAIR SHAW. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T NEED TO REPEAT MYSELF. 
          IT'S JUST FOR ALL THE SAME REASONS. 
          I THINK AGAIN, THIS INITIALLY CAME A WHILE BACK, IS THIS A SIX? AND I HAD ISSUES WITH THAT. 
          UM, I PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION MP3. 
          I JUST CAN'T DO MORE THAN THAT. 
          UM, I I'M EVEN GONE OUTSIDE OF MY COMFORT AREA WITH THAT. 
          SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M, UM, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT, OKAY. 
          ANYBODY SPEAKING FOR 
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OR AGAINST I'LL SPEAK FOR, IF NO ONE'S GOING TO. 
          I MEAN, IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'RE HAVING TO USE ZONING CODES AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS THAT WERE WRITTEN FOR A CITY LESS THAN HALF OUR SIZE. 
          AND THERE ARE DEFINITELY MUCH BETTER IN ZONING CATEGORIES. 
          WE COULD HAVE BEEN PUTTING ON THIS PROPERTY THAT WOULD HAVE DONE A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE IN AUSTIN, THE COMMUNITY ALL GOING TO NEED AND WANT. 
          BUT HERE WE GO. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST OF THE BEST OF A MESSY CODE. 
          AND THIS IS DEFINITELY A BATHROOM THAT DIRECTION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MY COMPUTER FROZE. 
          UM, ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST MR. CONNOLLY WAS THAT YOU, IF I SPOKE, I WOULD SPEAK, I WOULD SPEAK FOR THE MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHERS AGAINST WE'LL SPEAK AGAINST? AND I ALSO WON'T REPEAT MYSELF TOO MUCH EXCEPT TO JUST SAY THERE, I THINK IT WARRANTS CONSIDERING THIS KIND OF UPS ZONING, WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY TRULY REFLECTIVE AND DRIVEN BY COMMUNITY AND SHOWS THAT IT WILL BENEFIT PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED MR. SPEAKER, I'VE GOT ONE MORE, FOUR, AND ONE MORE AGAINST MR. CHANG IF NOBODY'S GOING TO TAKE, UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY TOUGH THESE DAYS, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT EVERYBODY. 
          AND IT'S NOT JUST THIS SIDE OR NORTH OR WEST. 
          I MEAN, ALL OF US RIGHT NOW. 
          I MEAN, FROM SEEING WHAT I AM SEEING IN THE REAL ESTATE MARKET, UM, WE ALL NEED TO START RETHINKING WHATEVER RULE SETS THAT WE HAD FROM, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AGO, EVEN SIX MONTHS AGO, IS IT NEEDS TO BE RETHOUGHT THROUGH BECAUSE FROM WHAT I'M SEEING IN THE MARKET, WE ARE NOT READY FOR WHAT IS COMING. 
          AND IT REALLY CONCERNS ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABILITY. 
          AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHY ANY CHANCE WE CAN GET TO THINK ABOUT AFFORDABLE AND THAT'S ANYWHERE, NOT IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANOTHER, BUT EVERYWHERE. 
          WE NEED TO BE THINKING HARD ABOUT THIS. 
          UM, AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE AND BALANCING, AND I AGREE, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH OF IT, YOU KNOW, BALANCING BACK TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT TO US TO ALSO EDUCATE MORE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING, UM, WITH THE MARKET, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MARKET, WE SEE IT, BUT WE DON'T FEEL THE IMPACT UNTIL A YEAR OR TWO OR THREE OR FOUR YEARS FROM NOW. 
          AND I'M SEEING, I'M SEEING INCENTING THIS ALREADY. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE ALL NEED TO BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, BE READY FOR. 
          SO ANYWAY, THAT'S MY CONCERN. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LAST SPOT FOR AGAINST OR NEUTRAL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE MOTION. 
          UM, UH, PROPOSED BY COMMISSIONER IS OUR SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAY FOR MF FOUR. 
          SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SEVEN, EIGHT, ALL THOSE AGAINST WAR ALL. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          EIGHT, FOUR. 
          THAT MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          JUST TO CONFIRM, WE DON'T NEED TO GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER SHAW'S MOTION, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING ON TO, UM, SURE. 
          COMMISSION LIAISON ON HANDOVER. 
          ONE THING WE DO NEED TO CLARIFY THOUGH, OR TAKE A VOTE ON OR HAVE A MOTION IS ON THE, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IS THAT A SEPARATE VOTE? OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          LET'S GO BACK TO, UM, ONE THE NPA APPROVAL. 
          OKAY. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DRAWING WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, 
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SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10 AGAINST TWO 10. 
          ALL 
          [B5. Rezoning: C14H-2020-0136 - Ellen Wyse House -- Wyseacre; District 9 ]
RIGHT. 
          MOVING ON TO B FIVE. 
          UM, THIS IS FOR THE ELLEN WEISS HOUSE REZONING. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE CAITLIN CONTRARES ON THE PHONE HUMAN COMMISSIONERS. 
          I'M KELLEN CONCERTOS, BUT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, UM, ITEM B FIVE ITEM C 14 H 2020S OR ONE 36 IS A REQUEST FROM THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION TO APPLY HISTORIC ZONING TO THE ALAN YS HOUSE. 
          ALSO KNOWN AS WISEACRE, A 28 16 SAN PEDRO STREET. 
          UM, IT'S RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. 
          DOES IT MEAN TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK ZONING AND THE ACLC RECOMMENDED HISTORIC ZONING ON NOVEMBER 16TH, 2020, UH, FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARING FOR DEMOLITION APPLICATION 28 16 SAN PEDRO IS A ONE AND A HALF STORY HOUSE, UH, WITH A RECTANGULAR CAPE COD PLAN. 
          IT HAS A SIDE GABLED ROOF, THREE GABLED DORMERS, AND A PORTICO SUPPORTED BY CLASSICAL COLUMNS. 
          THE BUILDING'S ESSENTIAL FORMS LARGELY INTACT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A HIP ROOF. 
          ADDITION TO THE SOUTH BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED WITH A WISE FAMILY AROUND 1924. 
          WILLIAM WISE WAS AN OIL MAN WITH TEST AUSTIN'S POWER AND WATER COMPANY. 
          UM, BUT HE PASSED AWAY SHORTLY AFTER ITS CONSTRUCTION. 
          HIS WIFE, ELLEN BROS WISE REMAINED AT THE ESTATE WITH HER SON AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW ELLEN WISE WAS A WRITER EDITOR AND A BUSINESS OWNER EARLY IN HER CAREER. 
          SHE WAS A SOCIETY EDITOR FOR THE STATESMAN, BUT IN 1911, SHE ESTABLISHED THE GOSSIP ADVERTISING FIRMS. AND THIS BECAME A HOUSEHOLD NAME BY THE 1920S, THANKS TO ITS MULTI PAGE MAGAZINE AND NEWSPAPER INSERTS. 
          ITS OFFICES WERE LOCATED DOWNTOWN AT THE NATIONAL BANK AND SCARBOROUGH BUILDING AND GOSSIP REMAINED IN CONTINUOUS PUBLICATION THROUGH BOTH WORLD WARS. 
          AFTER MORE THAN 30 YEARS, WHY IS THE DECLINING HEALTH SHUTTERED, THE PRESS ROOM IN 1945, ALONG WITH OWNING AND OPERATING A BUSINESS, WHICH WAS A REALLY, UM, UNUSUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR A WOMAN IN THE, UH, THE EARLY PART OF THE 20TH CENTURY, ELLEN WISE USED HER TALENT AND HER CHARISMA TO REACH OUT TO OTHER WOMEN WRITERS. 
          SHE PRESENTED TO THE TEXAS PRESS WOMEN'S ASSOCIATION, STATEWIDE SHARING HER STRATEGIES TO SUCCESS IN THE MALE DOMINATED ADVERTISING FIELD. 
          WHY IS IT THE FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE QUILL CLUB, A CONSORTIUM OF FEMALE WRITERS WHO REGULARLY MET AT HER STATE. 
          SO AN EARLY NEWSPAPER ARTICLE IDENTIFIES THE ESTATE UNDER THE NAME AL BAKER IT'S LITERARY OCCUPANTS QUICKLY DUBBED IT BY BAKER. 
          OH, AND Y HAS SERVED A NUMBER OF CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS AND SHE RECEIVED SIGNIFICANT PRESS COVERAGE FOR HER ROLE IN PLANNING AND SELECTING AUSTIN MUNICIPAL FLAG DESIGN, ELLEN WISE, HIS SON, WILLIAM JR. 
          WORKED WITH HIS MOTHER AS AN EDITOR OF GOSSIP. 
          HE WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE AUSTIN ADVERTISING CLUB AND HEAD OF ITS MARKETING SCHOOL IN THE 1930S BY THE 19 BY 1940, HE HAD MOVED TO KANSAS TO FOLLOW IN HIS MOTHER'S ENTREPRENEURIAL FOOTSTEPS. 
          UH, HE ESTABLISHED HIS OWN RADIO BROADCASTING FROM THERE, AND FINALLY, UM, THEY WERE NOT PERMANENT RESIDENCE. 
          UH, WISEACRE ALSO FREQUENTLY HOSTED MARGARET WRIGHT WISE OF WATERCOLORIST AND FOUNDER OF THE AUSTIN HERITAGE SOCIETY AND HER HUSBAND, WAYMAN ADAMS, PORTRAIT PAINTER, UM, SUBJECTS INCLUDED US PRESIDENTS, AUTHORS, ARTISTS, AND ACADEMICS FROM AROUND THE WORLD UPON RETIREMENT, MARGARET AND WAYMAN ADAMS RETURNED TO AUSTIN TO BE CLOSE TO EL UNWISE AND HER FAMILY THAT THEIR NEARBY HOME AND STUDIO BURNED TO THE GROUND IN THE 1970S, LMI HAS PASSED AWAY IN 1947, LIKE HER HUSBAND. 
          SHE REQUESTED THAT HER FUNERAL SERVICE BE HELD WISEACRE 28, 16 SAN PEDRO STREET DEATH RECOMMENDS HISTORIC ZONING BASED ON THE BUILDING'S ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION IN NOVEMBER, 2020, THE LANDMARK COMMISSION VOTED TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING ON A VOTE OF EIGHT TO, TO, UM, SO PER STATE LAW, THE RECOMMENDATION REQUIRES NINE BOATS THIS EVENING TO MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE CATER JOSEPH ON THE PHONE? YOU'LL PRESS B6 OR SORRY, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS KATIE JOSEPH, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF RELEASING THE DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR 2016, SAN PEDRO. 
          I'M THE AFRICAN NOT, NOT CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY OWNER 2016, SAN PEDRO WAS MOST RECENTLY OPERATED AS A FRATERNITY HOUSE. 
          AND THAT EXISTENCE ENDED IN 2005. 
          WHEN, UH, ONE OF THE MEMBERS WAS FOUND DEAD IN THE HOUSE. 
          SINCE THAT TIME, THE HOUSE HAS NOT BEEN OCCUPIED AND IT HAS BEEN MINIMALLY CARED FOR THE PROPERTY. 
          OWNERS HAVE STRUGGLED TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES AND UTILITIES THAT SPENT NEARLY $400,000 BETWEEN THE TWO OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS, SINCE THEY'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY AS A RESULT OF DECLINING HEALTH AND IS NOW IN THE FAMILY'S BEST 
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INTEREST TO SELL THE PROPERTY. 
          HOWEVER, THEY'VE BEEN MET WITH A ROADBLOCK BECAUSE OF THE UNCERTAINTY OF DEMOLITION IN THIS PART OF WEST CAMPUS OF THE WEST CAMPUS NEIGHBORHOOD, NEARLY ALL RESIDENTS ARE STUDENT RENTERS, AND THERE'S NOT A MARKET FOR A BUYER TO PURCHASE THE HOUSE, SPEND 650,000 PLUS ON PROPER PROPERLY RESTORING THE HOME TO LANDMARK CONDITION AND THEN OWNER OCCUPYING IT. 
          THE CURRENT IMPROVEMENTS ARE AN EXCEPTIONALLY POOR CONDITION AND WHICH HAS BEEN PROVEN ON THE PROVIDED RESIDENTIAL INSPECTION REPORT AND ENGINEER'S REPORT THAT ARE IN THE BACKUP PACKET. 
          I'VE BEEN AT THE CONSTRUCTION. 
          I'VE BEEN A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FOR 15 YEARS. 
          AND IN THAT TIME I'VE WORKED ON NUMEROUS LANDMARK PROPERTIES UPON RECEIVING THE HISTORIC RESEARCH FOR THIS HOME. 
          I MADE A SIGNIFICANT EFFORT TO ATTEMPT TO COME UP WITH A VIABLE PLAN THAT INCLUDED KEEPING AND RESTORING THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. 
          THESE PLANS INCLUDED OPTIONS WHERE THE HOUSE COULD STAY IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION AND WHERE THE HOUSE WOULD RELOCATE WITHIN THE LOT. 
          THE COMMON DENOMINATOR FOR ALL OPTIONS RESULTED IN A HOUSE WITH VERY LITTLE, OR THEY COULD BE BUILDING THINGS SALVAGE AMONG THE ITEMS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED OR WINDOWS DOORS, ROTTEN FRAMING, STUCCO FOUNDATION, ROOF GUTTERS, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING SYSTEMS, FLATWORK, ET CETERA. 
          ONCE SUCH MEASURES WERE TAKEN THE BUILDING, THE BUILDING TO MAKE THE BUILDING STRUCTURALLY SAFE AND SOUND. 
          THERE WOULD BE LITTLE TO NO HISTORIC FABRIC REMAINING, AND THE BUILDING WOULD BE INELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC ZONING. 
          IT IS MY OPINION THAT THE BEYOND THE BUILDING IS BEYOND REASONABLY SALVAGEABLE. 
          AS IT CURRENTLY SITS, THERE'VE BEEN A NUMBER OF CHANGES MADE TO THE STRUCTURE, WHICH PUT IT INTO QUESTION, WHICH PUT INTO QUESTION ITS HISTORIC INTEGRITY. 
          THESE INCLUDE ADDED DORMERS ON THE STREET FACING SIDE OF THE ROOF. 
          ASIDE ADDITION ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HOME, A LARGE REAR ADDITION IN VARIOUS REPLACED ADDED DOORS AND WINDOWS THROUGHOUT NOW, CONSIDERING AUSTIN'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS. 
          AS WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS CASE, I BELIEVE IT IS WORTH MENTIONING THAT THE PROJECT PLANS REPLACED THIS HOUSE WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THAT WITH AUSTIN'S AFFORDABLE AFFORDABILITY, UNLOCK THE PROGRAM AND WOULD PROVIDE THREE MUCH NEEDED AFFORDABLE UNITS. 
          ONE AT 50% MFI INTUIT, 60% MFI. 
          AND UNLIKE THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD WE JUST DISCUSSED, THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THE AFFORDABILITY IS DESPERATELY NEEDED IN THE OVERPRICE WEST CAMPUS MARKET. 
          ALSO THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD HAVE A TAX BASIS THAT WOULD MORE THAN DOUBLE THE CURRENT TAX BASIS RATHER THAN KEEPING THE TAX BASIS WHERE IT IS AND ADDING A HISTORIC LANDMARK DISCOUNT TO IT. 
          WE WOULD GROW IT BY TWO, BY AT LEAST DOUBLE AND PROVIDE THE CITY WITH MORE TAX DOLLARS. 
          I SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND I'M AVAILABLE TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE PROPERTY, MY REQUEST FOR DEMOLITION PERMIT. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ALSO ON THE LINE TO SPEAK WHENEVER Y'ALL CALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IS APRIL BEN DOC ON THE PHONE I'M HERE. 
          HI, WE CAN HEAR YOU GO AHEAD. 
          UH, YES, I'M HERE. 
          UM, I AM ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AT 28 16 SAN PEDRO. 
          WE'VE OWNED IT FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS. 
          UM, WE DIDN'T HISTORICAL DESIGNATION. 
          OUR NEIGHBORS DIDN'T ASK FOR IT. 
          IT CAME TO THE COURSE OF TRYING TO SELL THIS HOUSE. 
          YOU'RE AT RISK OF HAVING NO SALE AND A HISTORICAL DESIGNATION WE DIDN'T WANT, AND IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO US. 
          I HAVE WORKED WITH HISTORICAL HOMES IN AUSTIN BEFORE BOTH AS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE CASTLE HOUSE ON 15TH STREET. 
          AND UH, WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF ANSWER HOUSE IN BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE HUGE CREWS TO MAINTAIN AND REPAIR THE HOUSE. 
          THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE ACCESS TO. 
          I RECALL THE CASUAL HOUSE NEEDING A NEW VANITY IN THE BATHROOM AND I JUST GO TO HOME DEPOT, EXCEPT THAT'S NOT REALLY AN OPTION IN A HISTORIC HOME. 
          IT NEEDS TO BE KEPT IN A CERTAIN DATE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH FOR THAT. 
          THAT KIND OF CARE HAS NEVER BEEN SHOWN TO THIS HOUSE. 
          BY PREVIOUS OWNERS, THERE ARE ADDITIONS NO WITH NO CONSIDERATION OR KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. 
          HE ORIGINAL GRADING OF THE HOME IS NOT GREAT. 
          DURING THE 2013 FLOODS, WE HAD SANDBAGS AROUND THE FRONT DOOR TO KEEP WATER FROM FLOODING WHOLE POWER GRAND SINGLE-PANE WINDOWS THROUGHOUT THE MAIN HOUSE OR ENERGY INEFFICIENT AND NEED TO BE CUSTOM MADE TREE PLACE. 
          WE TOOK A TRIP TO GONZALEZ TO LOOK FOR THESE HISTORICAL REPLACEMENTS THAT WERE IN BETTER SHAPE, BUT IT WAS NOT A FRUITFUL TRIP AS MORE STUDENT RENTAL, STILL THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR WINTERS HAVE INCREASINGLY ABOUT TRASH BLOWING DOWN THE STREETS, CARS IN THE WRONG WAY DOWN ONE WAY STREETS LIKE SAN PEDRO INCREASED NOISE FROM PARTIES, MUSIC BEING PLAYED LOUDLY IN THE AFTERNOON. 
          BONFIRES HEARD OF STUDENTS WALKING FROM PARTY TO PARTY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND THEY CAN 
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GET DIFFICULT TO GET INTO THE DRIVEWAY. 
          WHAT FAMILY WOULD WANT TO LIVE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT? IT'S NOT EVEN CONDUCIVE AS AN EVENT SPACE LIKE THE CASUAL HOUSE. 
          EITHER. 
          WE ARE NOT HAPPY OR PROUD OF THE CONDITION OF THIS PROPERTY, BUT WE ARE ALSO NOT IN A POSITION TO REPAIR IT. 
          AND AT THIS POINT WE WERE IN SUPPORTIVE, WHATEVER WORKS BEST IN THAT SPACE. 
          AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A HISTORICALLY ZONED DRAFTY ROTTING EYESORE. 
          WHO DOES THAT SERVE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS ERICA VIN DOC ON THE PHONE STAR SIX ON YOU. 
          HI, WE CAN HEAR YOU GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IN THE PACKET THAT WAS INCLUDED SINCE YOU ALL, I BELIEVE IT WAS A LETTER THAT WE WROTE AS A FAMILY UNTIL I'M AT THAT POINT. 
          HOPE YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THAT AND THAT'S GOING TO NOT REHASH THAT. 
          NOW THE ORIGINAL PLAN WE HAD WAS FOR MY DAD TO REINVEST HIS INHERITANCE AND BUILD AN OLD MESS BAG FOR MY FOLKS' RETIREMENT. 
          WE MADE A LOT OF MISTAKES FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND WE HAD AROUND THE BAD LUCK, WE PAID TOO MUCH. 
          WE WAIVED THE INSPECTIONS. 
          SO WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW BAD THE CONDITIONS WERE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY REPAIRS DONE FOR CLOSING. 
          WE WERE RULED BY THE PROMISE OF HIGH RENTS AND CASHFLOW, BUT WE WERE NEVER ABLE TO REPLICATE IT. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER, BUT WE TRIED TO DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          WE NEVER WANTED TO TEAR DOWN THIS HOUSE. 
          WE PLANTED TREES IN THE YARD AND ROSES ALONG THE WALL. 
          WE WENT TO HOME SHOWS AND GATHERED INTO INSTALLED RADIANT BARRIER AND NEW INSTALLATION. 
          WE PAINTED INSIDE REPLACED, BROKEN GLASS, REPLACING, AND WE LOOKED INTO REPLACEMENT WINDOWS ALTOGETHER. 
          WE PULLED STAPLES OUT OF THE CROWN MOLDING FOR WE. 
          WE KEPT US THE POOL IN THE LAWN SERVICES AND WE PAID OUR BILLS ON TIME. 
          IT'S EASY TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY NOW AND SAY THAT IT SENDS THE GLASSES, BUT IT'S NEVER THAT WE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE HOUSE. 
          WE JUST GOT TO WHERE WE COULDN'T CARE FOR IT. 
          WHEN WE REALIZED THAT IT WAS GETTING THE BETTER OF US, WE TRIED TO SELL, BUT EVERYONE INTERESTED IN BUYING WANTED TO KNOCK IT ALL DOWN, LOOKING AT THE INSPECTION REPORT. 
          IT'S EASY TO SEE WHY, IF YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH, YOU SEE THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO REPAIR EVERYTHING THAT THE HOUSE NEEDS AND STILL BE ABLE TO MAKE YOUR MONEY BACK. 
          THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN VALUED BY THE TAX OFFICE AT, OR ABOVE A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, BUT NOT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE HOUSE IS WORTH. 
          IT'S THE LAMP AND THE LOCATION. 
          THIS HOUSE WAS FLAGGED FOR PRESERVATION BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT OVER 50 YEARS AGO. 
          SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US? WE CAN TRY TO SAVE IT, BUT THAT FINANCIAL COSTS WILL FALL ON MY FAMILY, WHICH WILL BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF MY FATHER'S HEALTH IS USING OUR DEPLETED SAVINGS. 
          BUT THERE WAS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY COST TO YOU AS WELL, OFTEN NEEDS MORE HOUSING, MORE AFFORDABLE OPTIONS. 
          EVEN IN THE STUDENT, HEAVY COMMUNITY LIKE THIS ONE, WE HAVE SEEN WHAT CATER JOSEPH CAN DO. 
          HE IS OUR NEIGHBOR IN WEST CAMPUS. 
          AND THE PLACE THAT HE BUILT IS REALLY NICE. 
          IT'S WELL-MAINTAINED WITH MODERN AMENITIES OFF STREET PARKING AND IT'S FULL. 
          PEOPLE ARE HAPPY LIVING THERE. 
          OUR PLACE IS LIGHT ON THE STREET, THE UNLOVED AND UNKEPT HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND I CANNOT BEGIN TO TELL YOU THE EMBARRASSMENT AND THE GUILT THAT I FEEL BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY AND TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT WILL BE SAFER, MORE EFFICIENT, MORE ATTRACTIVE, AND MORE AFFORDABLE BREAKING THE DEMOLITION PERMIT INSTEAD OF THE HISTORIC REZONING WILL BE A BETTER SOLUTION FOR EVERYONE, BUT ESPECIALLY FOR THE STUDENTS WHO WANT A NEED TO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND HONESTLY, SHOULDN'T THAT REALLY BE OUR GOAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT I HAVE, UM, SINCE THE CITY IS THE APPLICANT. 
          THERE'S NO REBUTTAL. 
          SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SHAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          12 ZERO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, LET'S START WITH QUESTIONS. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH A QUESTION? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER SNYDER. 
          UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF. 
          UH, I, UH, WONDER IF YOU COULD RESPOND TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE, UH, UH, THE OPPONENTS HAVE RAISED THAT, UH, THE HOUSE HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR A WHILE, THAT THERE WERE NEVER INVESTMENTS MADE AND TO SORT OF PRESERVE AT HISTORICALLY. 
          AND IF IT IS SORT OF IMPRACTICAL OR 
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FINANCIALLY THERE THEY ARE, MAYBE ANY OWNER WOULD BE UNABLE FINANCIALLY TO, UM, RESTORE IT 40, UM, MAINTAIN IT ACCORDING TO THE HISTORIC STANDARDS. 
          COULD STAFF RESPOND TO HOW YOU ADDRESS THOSE SORTS OF ISSUES IN GENERAL OR IN THIS CASE IN PARTICULAR COMMISSIONER? UM, THE, UM, THE PRIMARY WAY THAT THE CITY HAS TO ADDRESS ISSUES LIKE THESE IS THE TAX EXEMPTION AVAILABLE EXEMPTION AVAILABLE TO LANDMARK PROPERTIES. 
          UM, FOR RESIDENTIAL OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTIES, IT'S CAPPED AT $8,500. 
          AND FOR INCOME PRODUCING PROPERTIES, I BELIEVE THERE IS NO CAP. 
          UM, I CAN CONFIRM THAT WITH OUR TEAM AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, IF THIS WERE A RENTAL THEN, UH, ARE YOU SAYING THERE MAY NOT BE ANY CITY PROPERTY TAX COMMISSIONER? I BELIEVE THERE'D BE NO AISD PROPERTY TAX AND I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THE EXACT PERCENTAGE OF, UM, WITH WHICH TAXING BODIES WOULD, WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THAT. 
          BUT, UM, I CAN GET THAT TO YOU IN A FEW MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANOTHER QUESTION, MR. SHAW. 
          SO, UH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM, UH, THE STAFF HISTORIC, UM, LANDMARK PROOF OF STEPHEN SEDOWSKY OR ANYBODY IN HIS GROUP? ARE THEY HERE TONIGHT? YES, COMMISSIONER, UM, I'M WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          LIKE I SAID, I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS I HEARD A WHOLE LIST OF REPAIRS THAT WERE NEEDED, WHICH QUITE FRANKLY, A LOT OF THOSE I NEED AT MY HOUSE. 
          THEY WERE PRETTY STANDARD REPAIRS FOR AN OLD HOME. 
          UH, BUT WHICH ONES ARE NECESSARY FOR THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION? I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF CALL THOSE OUT CAUSE THERE'S THOSE THAT ARE DRIVEN, YOU KNOW, ANY HOUSE. 
          SO THAT AGE THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE UPGRADED OR CHANGES MADE AS A OVER TIME VERSUS THOSE THAT ARE NEEDED, UM, UH, THAT ARE, I GUESS IT'S A WINDOWS AND THE FRONT. 
          AND WHAT THINGS ARE KIND OF DRIVEN MORE FROM THE HITS, HISTORIC DESIGNATION, UM, COMMISSIONER, WELL, WE DON'T REQUIRE, UH, LANDMARKS TO MAKE REPAIRS. 
          UM, THAT IS WHAT THAT TAX EXEMPTION IS SET ASIDE FOR. 
          SO HE A B IN KIND REPAIRS THAT, UM, ALLOW THE BUILDING TO CONVEY ITS SIGNIFICANCE, UM, HISTORICALLY, AND, AND JUST FOR GENERAL UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE, UM, WE DON'T REQUIRE ANYTHING THAT THAT WOULD BE A WHOLESALE FACELIFT. 
          AND IN FACT, THAT WOULD, UH, DIMINISH THE INTEGRITY OF, OF THE BUILDING IF IT WERE TO BE DESIGNATED. 
          OKAY. 
          MAYBE MY QUESTION, MY QUESTION, WASN'T CLEAR, WHICH THINGS ARE IMPACTED IF YOU DO UPGRADES TO WINDOWS DOORS, YOU KNOW, WHICH THINGS ARE, UM, DO, UM, ARE IMPACTED BY THE STORY DESIGNATION WHEN YOU MAKE UPGRADES. 
          IS IT, UM, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, THE AIR CONDITIONER PROBABLY NOT RIGHT, BUT THE, UH, THE WINDOWS YES. 
          THEY HAVE TO BE. 
          SO YOUR COSTS MAY BE A LITTLE HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT. 
          WHAT, WHAT THINGS WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE OF THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION? UH, YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT WOULD AFFECT THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, UM, WOULD NEED TO APPLY FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS APPLICATION IF THE HOUSE WERE TO BE DESIGNATED. 
          UM, AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT, UH, WE WOULD REVIEW ANY CHANGES, UM, AND LARGER CHANGES WOULD GO BEFORE THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION DETERMINED WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE, UH, SENSITIVE TO THE HOUSE, UM, AND ITS EXISTING DESIGN. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THAT, UM, THAT'S WHY ARE HISTORIC LANDMARKS, UH, HAVE THAT TAX EXEMPTION AVAILABLE? BECAUSE IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE TO SAY, UM, CHOOSE A MORE COMPATIBLE WINDOW, UM, FOR THESE REPAIRS AND JUST PUTTING IN A VINYL WINDOW, FOR INSTANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MOST OF THESE ARE KIND OF THE FRONT FACADE THAT, UH, PEOPLE SEE FROM THE STREET FRONT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UM, AND COMMISSIONERS, I JUST, UM, HEARD WORD 
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FROM STEVE TEDESCHI AND HE SAYS THAT TAX INCENTIVE IS EQUAL TO 50% OF THE VALUE OF THE STRUCTURE. 
          UM, AND 25% OF THE VALUE OF THE LAND FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY AND 25% OF THE VALUE OF THE STRUCTURE AND 12.5% OF THE VALUE OF THE LAND FOR AISD. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M GOOD. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SEE KIND OF WHERE THE DELTA WOULD BE, WHAT THINGS WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD INCREASE THE COST OF ANY REPAIRS ON THE HOUSE. 
          AND IT SOUNDS LIKE I HAVE THAT CLEAR UNDERSTANDING NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANT TO COMMENT CHERISHED ALL THAT. 
          UM, I'VE BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE, SO I'VE DONE HISTORIC RENOVATIONS AND ADDITIONS. 
          SO, UM, IF YOU WANT, I CAN CLARIFY FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT, BECAUSE I'VE ADDED ON I'VE ADDED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET TO IT. 
          I'VE GONE THROUGH HISTORIC, UH, LANDMARK COMMISSION, UM, GONE THROUGH CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATE, AND IT'S, I'VE DONE ALL IT'S. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE IN HAVING HAVE DONE THIS, UM, ON, ON YOUR HOMES. 
          SO HE IS IN THE REST OF MY TIME. 
          SO, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER SHAY, YOU WOULD SAY THAT THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE ADDED. 
          AND HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT HEIGHT IN THE BACK? COULD YOU ADD HEIGHT IN THE BACK, UM, BEHIND THE FRONT FACADE? YEAH. 
          YES, YOU CAN. 
          AND OVER HERE IT'S GOING TO BE MCMANSION. 
          SO YOU STILL HAVE TO DO MCMANSION DRAWINGS, BUT, UM, YES, YOU CAN ADD ON, I THINK THE KEY THING IS THAT FRONT FACADE, HOW IT PRESENTS ITSELF TO THE STREET. 
          I MEAN, YOU CAN, I HAVE ADDED A SECOND, UH, TWO STORY ADDITION ON THE BACK OF A HISTORIC HOME. 
          AND I HAVE GOTTEN THAT THROUGH THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. 
          THE MAIN THING IS THAT THE VERY MODERN ADDITION THAT I'VE PUT ONTO THE 1900 BUILT HOME WAS SOMETHING THAT DID NOT COMPETE AGAINST IT FROM THE BACK FROM THE ALLEYWAY. 
          IT LOOKED TOTALLY LIKE THE CONTEMPORARY HOME ON THE FRONT. 
          THE CONTEMPORARY ADDITION DID NOT, UH, COMPETE WITH THE, THE HISTORIC HOME AND THE INSIDE. 
          UH, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. 
          I'M IN ABOUT HOME DEPOT. 
          YOU CAN, YOU CAN PUT WHATEVER YOU WANT I'M AT OF TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          RIGHT. 
          ANOTHER COMMISSIONER WITH THE QUESTION, COMMISSIONER SEEKER. 
          YES. 
          I HAVE, UH, APPEAL QUESTIONS. 
          I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY MADE THE BACKUP MATERIAL, UM, IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL, IT INDICATES THAT THE HOUSE APPEARS TO RETAIN MODERATE INTEGRITY. 
          COULD YOU EXPAND ON THAT COMMENT PLEASE? UH, CERTAINLY COMMISSIONER. 
          UM, SO THE HOUSE DOES HAVE AN ADDITION. 
          UM, IT'S A FRONT EDITION, IT'S A SMALL, UH, HIPPED ROOF STRUCTURE TO THE LEFT OF THE, UH, THE SOUTHERN MOST BAY OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE. 
          UM, IT LOOKS LIKE ACCORDING TO PERMITS THAT IT WAS ADDED, UM, IN THE 1960S, UM, THE PERMITS AREN'T VERY CLEAR ON WHEN EXACTLY, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE 1961. 
          UM, AND JUST TO CLARIFY THE, UH, THE DORMERS ON THE HOUSE APPEAR, UM, ON, I THINK A 1935 SANBORN MAPS FOR THOSE, UH, AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL ARE NOT ADDED. 
          UM, SO WE THINK THEY MAY HAVE HAD SOME SIDING REPLACEMENTS ON THE SIDE OF EACH OF THOSE DORMERS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UH, THAT'S A QUICK COMMENT IF THAT SENT THE, UH, ADDITION, WAS THAT AT 1961, WOULDN'T THAT QUALIFY AS HISTORICS AND SINCE BORDEN 50 YEARS SINCE THEN, YES. 
          COMMISSIONER WOOD, UM, THAT HAD THAT ADDITION, UH, 61 WOULD BE WITHIN THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANT 50 YEARS. 
          UM, I GUESS MY SECOND QUESTION AND NOT, I DON'T KNOW. 
          UH, I WOULD SAY MAYBE COMMISSIONER SHAY WOULD BE THE BEST PERSON TO ANSWER IS THAT IF THE HOUSE IS CURRENTLY NOT STRUCTURALLY SOUND, WHAT IS THE APPROXIMATE THAT COSTS THAT AN OWNER WOULD NEED TO PUT INTO THIS HOUSE TO MAKE IT STRUCTURALLY SOUND BASED ON THE LIMITED INFORMATION WE HAVE ABOUT THIS HOUSE? SORRY, COMMISSIONER SHAY. 
          I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT THAT'S MY QUESTION. 
          I, I, I DON'T, I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER A DOLLAR REP BECAUSE I MEAN, EACH, EACH PROJECT IS UNIQUE AMONGST ITSELF, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, LIKE, FOR THE PROJECTS THAT I JUST FINISHED IN EAST AUSTIN, I MEAN, THE, THE FOUNDATION, THE MAIN IT'S PIER AND BEAM AND THE WHOLE HOME WAS BENDING. 
          IT WAS DROPPED LIKE AT LEAST MAYBE SIX, SEVEN INCHES IN THE MIDDLE. 
          UM, OFTENTIMES ANY OF THESE HISTORIC HOMES ARE GONNA HAVE LIKE SOME LIKE CEDAR PEERS AND THE PEERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REPLACED WITH CONCRETE. 
          ANYWAY, EVEN MY HOUSE, IT'S NOT AS THOUGH IT WAS BUILT IN THIRTIES, I HAD TO REPLACE IT ALL WITH CONCRETE PIERS. 
          ANYWAY, ONCE YOU GET THE CONCRETE PIERS UP, YOU SHOW THEM UP, UM, AND, AND COMMISSIONERS SEE, OR YOU'VE SEEN IT IN, IN HOME 
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INSPECTIONS. 
          WE SEE, UH, WE SEE BEAMS IN THE HOME, VETTER SAYS ROTTED, AND ONE OF THE GUYS DO THEY COME IN AND THEY CUT IT OUT AND THEY PUT ANOTHER ONE IN. 
          SO, UM, IS IT DOABLE? YES. 
          SURE. 
          I MEAN, I MEAN, I THINK SO, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF HOMES THAT ARE IN DISREPAIR, BEEN RESTORED FOR, UM, REASONABLE VALUE. 
          AND THE THING THAT DOES MAKE IT, THAT HAD TO MAKE THAT MADE IT WORTH DOING WAS THOUGH THE ADDITION, WE HAD TO DO THE ADDITION IN THE BACK BECAUSE OTHERWISE ALL THE SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU'RE INVESTING IN THE FRONT TOO, JUST IN THE FRONT FACADE TO, TO KEEP IT AND, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP IT HISTORIC, YOU GOTTA HAVE A WAY TO LEVERAGE TO GET THE MONEY BACK. 
          AND SO YOU CAN ADD ON TO THE BACK AND YOU CAN ADD A SECOND STORY. 
          YOU COULD DO ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF TO BRING BACK VALUE, TO HELP PAY FOR THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORIC ASPECT COMMISSIONER SENIOR YEAR. 
          IT'S STILL ON MUTE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THIS ISN'T FOR COMMISSIONER SHEA. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPROPRIATE STAFF IS ON LINE TONIGHT, BUT THERE THERE'S ANOTHER BUILDING IN THE BACK. 
          COULD THAT BE SEPARATED FROM THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY AND THAT BE DEMOLISHED AND ADDITIONAL HOUSING PUT BACK THERE? UH, YES. 
          COMMISSIONER, THAT IS A NON-CONTRIBUTING PART OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, IT'S ROUGHLY ON THE LOCATION OF AN OLDER SECONDARY UNIT THAT ACCORDING TO CLIMATE, THIS STRUCTURE WAS BUILT AROUND 2004. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BACK, JUST NOT PART OF THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONERS, TATER, JOSEPH, IF I MAY JUST SAY, UH, I'VE, I'VE BUILT A NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS CENTERED AROUND HISTORIC LANDMARKS, AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS. 
          IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS THERE, I'VE GOT A QUESTION. 
          UM, I GUESS THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNERS, UM, THE TAX INCENTIVES THAT WERE DESCRIBED BY, UM, THE CITY, HAS THAT BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, AS FAR AS HOW, HOW, WHAT THAT MEANS FINANCIALLY FOR YOUR PLANS FOR THE HOUSE? YES, IT HAS. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE, THAT A BIG PART OF THIS HOUSE NOT BEING AT THIS HOUSE WAS ACROSS LAMAR. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, YOU COULD SPEND $600 A SQUARE FOOT RESTORING IT, AND YOU'D RECOUP THE MONEY FROM IT WHEN YOU SOLD IT. 
          BUT, UM, BUT THIS HOUSE IS IN A STUDENT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE IS GOING TO BE NO RECOUPING COSTS THAT GO INTO RESTORING THAT HOME AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE. 
          UH, SORRY, SORRY TO GET OFF TOPIC. 
          WILL YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION PLEASE? SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          MY QUESTION WAS JUST ABOUT THE TAX INCENTIVES THAT WERE DESCRIBED, UM, BY THE CITY. 
          UH, JUST IF, HOW THAT, IF THAT HAD BEEN CONSIDERED, UM, IN YOUR DECISION ABOUT STILL APPLYING FOR THE DEMO PERMIT AND THE OWNER'S DECISION TO GO THIS DIRECTION INSTEAD OF FOR STORING IT, IT HA IT HAS BEEN. 
          AND, UH, UNFORTUNATELY IT IS AS HELPFUL. 
          IT IS, AS IT IS EVERY YEAR TO GET ANY KIND OF BREAK ON PROPERTY TAXES. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE OF LANDMARK PROPERTIES THAT I STILL OWN, AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO GET THAT BREAK, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IN THE ACTUAL PROCESS, IT DOES NOT HELP. 
          AND JUST TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE, I BUILT A LITTLE PROJECT AT THREE OH FIVE EAST 34TH STREET, AND THAT'S CENTERED AROUND THE HISTORIC STEAKHOUSE AND THE RESTORATION OF THOSE WINDOWS IN THE REBUILD REPLICAS OF THOSE WINDOWS FOR THE HISTORIC HOUSE COSTS OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. 
          WHEREAS THE THREE OTHER BUILDINGS, THE BRAND NEW ANDERSON 100 WINDOWS POPS LIKE $30,000. 
          IT IS IF YOU DO IT RIGHT, IT IS VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M NOT SEEING ANY, DO WE HAVE A MOTION, MR. SHEA? A MOTION TO DENY HIS SNORING. 
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OKAY. 
          DO YOU HAVE A SECOND, MR. THOMPSON? OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER SHANE, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? YES. 
          SO USUALLY ONE THAT LOOKS AT THE BUILDING AND FINDS WAYS AND THEN LIKE, HEY, WE SHOULD MAKE THIS HISTORIC. 
          THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT CREATIVE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THIS. 
          I'VE DONE IT. 
          I'VE SEEN. 
          UM, AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IT WITHIN REASONABLE COSTS AND FIND WAYS TO MAKE IT WORK WHILE DOING, BUT SOMETHING THAT, UM, THAT THE LATE BETTY BAKER THAT WE ALL KNOW DEARLY HAS ALWAYS TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS BACK THEN, WAS THAT WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN WE GIVE HISTORIC ZONING, IT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IT SHOULD BE LIKE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO I LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND IT'S LIKE, IS THIS REALLY BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY? THESE, AT THAT POINT, IF WE GIVE THEM A TAX BREAK, THAT MEANS THE REST OF US HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT DIFFERENCE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS HOUSE BEING WHERE IT'S LOCATED, AND THEN I WENT TO UT I KNOW THE STREET, I KNOW THAT AREA PRETTY WELL. 
          AND I LOOK AT IT AND I ASK MYSELF, IS THIS REALLY PROVIDING THAT COMMUNITY BENEFIT TO SERVE THE AREA THAT I MYSELF IS LIKE, I'M GOING TO DRIVE BY THERE. 
          AND I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THIS AND UWA OVER IT. 
          AND BECAUSE OF HOW NARROW THE STREETS ARE, HOW CLOSE AND WHERE EVERYTHING IS WITH ALL THE UT STUDENTS, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO GET APPRECIATED ENOUGH. 
          AND I THINK THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN COME IN THERE THAT CAN BENEFIT THE AREA. 
          SO, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT OFFERS ENOUGH AS A COMMUNITY BENEFITS. 
          UM, I DON'T SUPPORT GIVING HISTORIC ZONING FOR THIS NOW, AS FAR AS FOR THE COST, DO I THINK IT'S SAVEABLE? SURE. 
          I DO. 
          BUT I MEAN, DO I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE HISTORIC? NO. 
          SO IN THAT SENSE, THEN, YOU KNOW, I IT'S UP TO THEM. 
          IF THEY WANT TO RESTORE IT, KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, REMODEL IT, UM, IT'S UP TO THEM WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT. 
          BUT I DO ENCOURAGE THEM TO, TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN DO THAT MAYBE RIFF DOES REFLECT A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S ENOUGH TO OFFER A HISTORIC SOUND. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK I SKIPPED A STEP IN VOTING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, AND GET A MOTION TO CLOSE COMMISSIONERS THAT FOR A SECOND. 
          SHAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, ALL RIGHT. 
          GOING BACK TO THE MOTION, WHICH WAS TO DENY THIS DOOR, EXAMINING ANY SPEAKERS AGAINST THAT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          DID WE HAVE A SECOND? UH, YES, THAT WAS I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M LOOKING AT THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE AND AT THE TIME THAT ELLEN WISE AND THE WOMEN THAT FOLLOWED HER, IT WAS SO RARE THAT THERE WERE WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES IN AUSTIN. 
          SHE ACCOMPLISHED SO MUCH FROM THAT PROPERTY THAT REGARDLESS OF, DOES IT LOOK NICE ON THE STREET? WILL IT COST SOME MONEY? YES, IT WILL. 
          HOWEVER, EVERY EFFORT SHOULD MADE TO KEEP HER LEGACY GOING. 
          IF IT MEANS MOVING THE HOUSE TO ANOTHER PROPERTY, BECAUSE IT'S MORE PROFITABLE TO BUILD STUDENT HOUSING. 
          I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE CONTEMPLATING BEFORE. 
          AND I THINK WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO FOR THIS FRONT PER DAY AND BEING A WOMAN MYSELF, I GREATLY ADMIRE WHAT SHE ACCOMPLISHED OUT OF THAT PROPERTY AND THE WOMEN THAT FOLLOWED HER A CONFLICT. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HONOR THAT LEGACY. 
          SO MANY OF OUR HISTORIC PROPERTIES ARE BASED ON THE MAN, THE MALE THAT WITHIN THE HOUSE, THE HOUSE, WHATEVER, AND WHAT HE DID FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF BOSTON AND, UH, THE BUSINESS. 
          LET'S, LET'S TAKE THE TIME TO THINK ABOUT ELLEN WISE AND HER SUCCESSORS AND SPEND SOME TIME ON FIGURING OUT WHAT SHOULD BE DONE WITH THIS PROPERTY BEFORE WE JUST TEAR IT DOWN AND REMOVE HER LEGACY FROM THE HISTORY OF AUSTIN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY COMMISSIONER SPEAKING FOR THE MOTION TO DENY HISTORIC? OH, I'LL SPEAK FOR IT. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND THE DILEMMA HERE. 
          OF COURSE. 
          AND I, I FULLY RESPECT THE HISTORY. 
          I'M JUST WONDERING WITH A LOT OF THESE, UM, HISTORIC CASES. 
          WE'VE GOT TWO TONIGHT THAT 
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IS PRESERVATION OF A HOUSE THAT BEFORE THIS OWNER OWNED, IT WAS A FRATERNITY HOUSE THAT IS NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH WOMEN. 
          UM, ISN'T THERE A BETTER WAY TO TELL THE STORY AND TO HAVE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO COME IN AND INTERACT. 
          SO, UM, AND THERE'S A WOMEN'S MUSEUM, UM, SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN, CLOSE TO CAMPUS, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING OF OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN TELL THOSE STORIES AND NOT NECESSARILY IN HAVING TO HAVE SINGLE INDIVIDUALS PAY A LOT OF MONEY TO, UM, TO PRESERVE A STRUCTURE THAT THEN WOULD ONLY BE PRIVATE TO THAT INDIVIDUAL. 
          SO, UM, I'LL BE VOTING TO DENY HISTORIC TO ANYBODY THAT'S ANY COMMISSIONERS AGAINST MR. SCHNEIDER. 
          YEAH. 
          I'D LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, NEUTRAL ON THIS IF I COULD. 
          UM, I, UH, I I'M, I'M SURELY CONFLICTED IN THAT THIS, UH, I PUT A LOT OF WEIGHT ON WHAT, UM, THE, UH, DIRECT LANDMARK COMMISSION MAKES HIS RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND I THINK TOO OFTEN, UH, THERE, THERE ARE OBVIOUS BUILDINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE AGREES ARE WONDERFUL EXAMPLES OF ARCHITECTURE AND HAVE HISTORY. 
          TO ME, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF PERSONAL TASTE THOUGH, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE IT IN THIS HOUSE. 
          I THINK WHAT, UM, IS COMPELLING ME TO, UH, HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT SUPPORTING HISTORIC DESIGNATION IS, UH, THE FACT THAT THIS HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF OVER THE YEARS, UM, AND THE CLEAR, UM, RESISTANCE FROM THE OWNERS, UH, AND THEIR STORY OF THE DIFFICULTY AND THE EXPENSE THAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THEM, UM, TO GET IT INTO THE SORT OF CONDITION THAT IT WOULD NEED TO BE IF IT WERE DESIGNATED HISTORIC. 
          UM, SO I'M, I THINK I'M GONNA, UH, GO TO, UM, UH, WE'LL STAY IN THIS VOTE. 
          UM, I, I, I DO WANT TO SUPPORT HISTORIC HOUSES ALL ACROSS THE CITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS A PARTICULAR, THERE'S A PARTICULAR DEARTH. 
          UH, BUT I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS WHEN THE OWNERS ARE AGAINST IT IN, UH, IN A PLACE THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY OBVIOUS, UM, TO BE, UH, TO BE DESIGNATED RIGHT PERMISSION. 
          YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR THE MOTION, RIGHT. 
          AGAIN, STAR NEUTRAL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER SHAW, CHAIR SHAW. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S A COMPELLING STORY, UH, AS COMMISSIONER SENIOR POINTED OUT TO THIS HOUSE. 
          AND, UM, AND I FEEL IT IS DESERVING OF A STAR DESIGNATION. 
          I DO FEEL FOR THE, THE COST, UH, ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, BUT I, I THINK LISTENING TO, UH, COMMISSIONER SHEA, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE IF A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT IS PUT INTO THIS, IT IS DOABLE. 
          UM, AND THERE CAN BE SOME OFFSETS WITH EXPANDING, UH, THE FOOTPRINT HERE, AND I'M LOOKING AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS IN DESIGN THAT MAY OFFSET THOSE COSTS OF RESERVING, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PORTIONS THAT NEED TO BE FOR THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION. 
          SO I THINK IT'S DOABLE. 
          IT JUST MAYBE NEEDS TO LOAD MORE WORK. 
          AND I WOULD HATE TO JUST, YOU KNOW, OFFER THIS HOUSE UP FOR DEMOLITION WITHOUT FULLY EXPLORING THOSE OTHER OPTIONS. 
          SO, UM, I'LL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ALL OF OUR SPOTS. 
          UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. 
          SO THIS MOTION IS TO DENY HISTORIC ZONING, ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          SO A POINT OF CLARITY, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO GET A SUPER MAJORITY HERE? IS THAT THE, OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAME FOR NINE VOTES TO PASS. 
          SO THE MOTION AGAIN IS TO DENY HISTORIC ZONING, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR ONE, TWO, THREE, OR FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, ALL THOSE AGAINST TWO. 
          AND THOSE ABSTAINING THREE SEVEN TWO, THREE. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING RIGHT ALONG. 
          SEE, YOU'RE GOING, MOVING 
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ON TO B SIX 
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AND B SEVEN. 
          THESE ARE THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY, INTERNATIONAL CASES FOR REZONING, UM, AND HISTORIC DESIGNATION. 
          SO CHAIR, UH, MY, SO DOES THIS JUST GO THROUGH, UH, WE DID PASS OUR MOTION, BUT DO WE ENTERTAIN ANY OTHER MOTIONS? CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE THE MOTION DID PASS. 
          IT HAD A MAJORITY. 
          OH, IT DID. 
          SO YOU NEED A, YOU NEED A SUPER MAJORITY TO PASS HISTORIC OVER THE OWNER'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT YOU DON'T NEED A SUPER MAJORITY TO DENY HISTORIC. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S A CLARIFICATION. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR EARLIER, BUT I'M CLEAR NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ITEM B SIX AND B SEVEN. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM, UH, CITY STAFF, MARK GRAHAM AND STEVE SADOWSKY TOGETHER. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          STEVE SEDOWSKY, UH, I'LL START OFF THE DISCUSSION THIS EVENING TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORIC CASE AT THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY BUILDING AT FOUR 16 WEST 12TH STREET. 
          I'D LIKE TO START THE DISCUSSION BY, I NOTED NOTING THAT THIS BUILDING IS INDIVIDUALLY LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, WHICH UNDER OUR CITY CODE SECTION 25 TO THREE 52 AUTOMATICALLY QUALIFIES IT FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION. 
          IT WAS, UH, LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER FOR ITS IMPORTANCE IN THE FIELDS OF EDUCATION AND ARCHITECTURE. 
          AND THOSE ARE TWO FIELDS THAT WOULD ALSO CORRELATE TO OUR CITY LANDMARK DESIGNATION CRITERIA OF ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION. 
          LET ME, LET ME START BY TALKING ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE. 
          THIS WAS BUILT IN 1956, IT WAS DESIGNED BY A LOCAL FIRM, TEENY BROOKS AND BAR, AND ONE OF THE MOST PROMINENT FIRMS IN THE CITY AT THE TIME. 
          AND IT WAS THE, UH, GROUPING OF THESE ARCHITECTS TOGETHER THAT EACH DEVELOPED, UH, THAT THE FIRM DEVELOPED A SIGNATURE STYLE AND WAS VERY POPULAR IN THE INTERNATIONAL STYLE. 
          AND MID-CENTURY MODERN BUILDING IN AUSTIN. 
          DO YOU GO, CUNY WAS PROBABLY THE MOST PROMINENT OF THESE ARCHITECTS. 
          HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDINGS LIKE THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER. 
          HE DESIGNED MANY HOMES IN PEMBERTON HEIGHTS AND HE WAS VERY MUCH A TRADITIONALIST BECAUSE TWO PARTNERS IN THIS FIRM HARMEX BROOKS AND HOWARD BARR WERE YOUNGER THAN HE WAS AND INTRODUCED NEW CONCEPTS OF COMMERCIAL BUILDING DESIGN. 
          THIS BUILDING BUILT IN 1956. 
          THIS WAS THE HEIGHT OF A MID-CENTURY MODERN ARCHITECTURE IN AUSTIN. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE THE INFLUENCE OF THAT SCHOOL ALONG WITH THE INTERNATIONAL STYLE IN THIS BUILDING. 
          THIS BUILDING HAS A VERY BOXY, UH, LINEAR COMPOSITION. 
          IT USES A LOT OF GLASS, A LOT OF GLASS WALLS. 
          UH, IT HAS CAST CONCRETE, CONCRETE BLOCK BRICK, AND A LARGE WALL OF MARBLE THAT SETS OFF THE ENTRANCE ON 12TH STREET. 
          THE, UH, BUILDING WAS BUILT BY THE DELTA COMP JAMA INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY, WHICH WAS FOUNDED IN 1929 HERE IN AUSTIN, UH, ANYWHERE BLANTON, WHO WAS A PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, SHE WAS A VERY PROMINENT EDUCATOR, UH, AND REALLY A PIONEER IN HER FIELD. 
          UH, SHE WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE TEXAS STATE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION, FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT, EXCUSE ME, OF THE TEXAS STATE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION IN 1916. 
          AND SHE BECAME THE FIRST FEMALE STATE SUPERINTENDENT OF EDUCATION IN TEXAS BEING THE FIRST WOMAN ELECTED TO ANY STATE OFFICE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          SHE, UH, WENT TO SHAPE. 
          SHE THEN JOINED THE FACULTY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, BUT HER QUEST AND FOUNDING OF THIS, UH, SOCIETY WAS TO DISSOLVE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN IN THE FIELD OF EDUCATION. 
          SHE WANTED TO PROMOTE WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP ROLES IN EDUCATION, AND AT THE TIME THAT SHE WENT THROUGH THIS, SHE COULD NOT EVEN USE HER OWN NAME FOR FEAR OF REPERCUSSION WOMEN AT THAT TIME WERE PAID LESS. 
          THEY WERE PRESSURED TO QUIT THEIR JOBS AS TEACHERS, IF THEY GOT MARRIED AND THEY WERE GENERALLY OVERLOOKED FOR POSITIONS OF LEADERSHIP, SCHOLARSHIPS, ANY OTHER THINGS, 
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AND WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN WITHOUT ANY ISSUES. 
          UH, I DON'T WANT TO, I WON'T GO INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL BECAUSE I KNOW IN PAST PRESENTATIONS AND HOPEFULLY AGAIN, TONIGHT, THE FOLKS FROM THE SOCIETY WILL PRESENT. 
          YOU. 
          YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD PICTURE OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF ANYONE PLANTED. 
          THIS CASE WENT BEFORE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION UPON A DEMOLITION PERMIT. 
          THEY INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING, WHICH ONLY REQUIRED A MAJORITY SIMPLE MAJORITY. 
          AND THEN WHEN IT CAME BACK FOR RECOMMENDATION IN DECEMBER, THEIR FIRST BOAT WAS EIGHT ZERO TWO. 
          SO NOBODY VOTED AGAINST THIS, UH, APPLICATION, BUT WE HAD TWO EXTENSIONS IN YOUR, UH, BACKUP. 
          YOU'LL SEE OUR STAFF REPORT THAT LISTS THE BOAT AS NINE ZERO ONE. 
          AND THAT WAS A SECOND BOAT THAT WAS TAKEN. 
          HOWEVER, IT WAS, THERE WAS A PROCEDURAL, UH, MISCALCULATION THERE AND THAT THERE WAS NEVER A BOAT TO RECONSIDER THE FIRST. 
          SO THE BOAT, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR THE LANDMARK COMMISSION IS THE SIMPLE MAJORITY RATHER THAN THE SUPER MAJORITY STATE LAW, UH, NOW REQUIRES THAT, UH, DECIDING BODIES ON THE HISTORIC LAND OR HISTORIC CASES MUST HAVE A SUPER MAJORITY EITHER AT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CASE NEVER MAKES IT TO THE COUNCIL. 
          SO, UH, THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION AT THE LANDMARK COMMISSION WAS CLEAR, UH, THAT WAS THAT NOBODY VOTED AGAINST THIS APPLICATION. 
          UH, BUT THERE WAS AN EXTENSION. 
          AND, UM, THIS BUILDING, AS I SAID, IS LISTED INDIVIDUALLY IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER, UH, HAS A LOT OF ARCHITECTURAL AND HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. 
          AND, UH, IF THE, IF THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING DOES NOT VOTE FOR, WITH A SUPER MAJORITY TO, UH, DESIGNATE THIS BUILDING AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK, THAT FORECLOSES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CITY COUNCIL TO HEAR THIS CASE, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE END OF IT. 
          UH, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MARK GRAHAM FROM HOUSING AND PLANNING, I'M PRESENTING THE REZONING PART OF THE CASE FOR THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING TO GO FROM GENERAL OFFICE TO GO TO MIX DOWNTOWN MIXED USE DISTRICT ZONING. 
          THE APPLICANT WANTS THE ENTIRE OWNERSHIP TO BE IN THE DMU ZONE DISTRICT BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH ANY REQUESTS TO THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM. 
          SO THIS ISN'T THEIR LAST STEP. 
          THIS IS JUST PART OF THE PROCESS. 
          UM, AS, AS IT'S GOING THROUGH THE HISTORICAL LANDMARK ZONING, UM, THERE HAVE, THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT MAKE THIS SITE DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP, AND WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THE CAPITOL VIEW CORRIDOR AND ALSO THE, UH, CAPITOL DOMINANCE OVERLAY. 
          UM, IT APPEARS THAT BOTH OF THOSE THINGS COME CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY, POSSIBLY THEY WOULD IMPACT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING OR THE SHAPE OF THE BUILD. 
          WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THEY SEEK A DETERMINATION, UH, TO DETERMINE EXACTLY WHERE THEY'VE RED BUD TRAIL CAPITOL VIEW CORRIDOR, UM, OCCURS ON THE SITE, UM, TO DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN PROVIDES THE MAIN GUIDANCE FOR STAFF AND LOOKING AT THIS. 
          SO, UH, THE CITY ADOPTED, UH, THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN AS AN AMENDMENT TO AUSTIN TOMORROW, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN DECEMBER OF 2011. 
          AND THIS DAP WE'LL CALL IT A DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN MADE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME PROPERTIES, INCLUDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          THIS IS SHOWN ON EXHIBIT D AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COPIES ARE NOT THAT GREAT, BUT, UM, EXHIBIT D UH, ACTUALLY SHOWS THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING WITH A, UM, COLOR KEY TWO 60 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT. 
          SO THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE DMU. 
          THEY CHOSE TO PUT A LIMIT ON THE HEIGHT TO 60 FEET IN THE RECOMMENDATION. 
          UH, THE DOWNTOWN DENT, THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS AREA THAT ALLOWS, UH, THE APPLICANT TO REQUEST ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AND FLOOR AREA RATIO IN THE LIMITS FOR THIS DISTRICT ARE 400 FEET OF HEIGHT AND A MAXIMUM OF 15 TO ONE FOR FAR JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT IS AN 
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ENTIRELY SEPARATE PROCESS. 
          THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE DESIGN ELEVATIONS SITE PLANS. 
          UH, THEY NEED TO COMMIT TO PARTICIPATING IN THE GREAT STREETS PROGRAM AND PROVIDING AN AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING, AS WELL AS ACHIEVING SOME SUPERIORITY THROUGH, UM, PROVIDING COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS COULD BE, UH, SOME MEASURE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR SOME, UH, PARTICIPATION AS HISTORICAL PRO UH, PROGRAMS. SO, UM, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IN THIS CASE IS FOR THE DOWNTOWN MIXED USE WITH A CEO CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, UH, COMBINED IN DISTRICT FOR A 60 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT, W UM, WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THIS, THIS RECOMMENDATION DOES NOT LEAD TO, UH, THE BUILDING THAT THEY ARE DISCUSSING. 
          THEY WOULD NEED TO REZONE AND REMOVE THE 60 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT TO GET THE PRIMARY ENTITLEMENTS THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS IN BUILDING A 300 TO 400 FOOT HEIGHT BUILDING, UM, AND, AND HAVING THE 280 THROWING UNITS THAT THEY SUGGESTED TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION. 
          UM, HOWEVER, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO DMU WITH THE CEO FOR 60 FEET. 
          THE PROPOSED ZONING SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE, UH, PSAT. 
          UM, THE DOWNTOWN MIXED USE IS INTENDED FOR A VARIETY OF USES, UM, INCLUDING, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE MAIN FOUR COMMERCIAL THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          IT'S CONSISTENT IN THAT WAY. 
          UM, THE CEO, UM, IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THEY PROPOSE TO DO WITH THE BUILDING. 
          THE SECOND CRITERIA, THE ZONING SHOULD NOT CONSTITUTE A GRANTS OF SPECIAL PRIVILEGE TO AN INDIVIDUAL OWNER. 
          UM, THE REQUEST SHOULD BE RESULTS IN EQUAL TREATMENT FOR SIMILARLY SITUATED PROPERTIES. 
          UM, THIS ISN'T AN AREA, UH, IT'S NEXT DOOR TO THE AOL WATSON HOUSE OF HISTORICALLY PRESERVED HOUSE. 
          IT'S ACROSS THE STREET ACROSS SAN ANTONIO STREET FROM, UM, ANOTHER PRE-SERVICE HOUSE AND ACROSS THE ALLEY IS YET ANOTHER ONE. 
          THIS IS AN AREA WITH, UM, A LOT OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESERVED. 
          UM, BUT THE REQUESTED ZONE DISTRICT EMU IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION AND THE AUSTIN PLAN, UM, FOR, UM, FOR DOWNTOWN, FOR AREAS CLOSE TO THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. 
          UM, THE, UM, AREAS WALKABLE BIKEABLE AND, UM, WOULD PUT RESIDENTIAL UNITS AT A LOCATION THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE THEIR USE OF THE NEW TRANSIT LINE ON GUADALUPE, WHICH IS A HALF BLOCK AWAY. 
          UM, THERE'S, UH, SUPPORT IN THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN, UH, FOR MANY OF THE GOALS THAT WOULD BE MET BY THIS PROJECT, RESTARTING SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES AND PRINCIPLES ADOPTED BY THE CITY. 
          WE FOCUSED ON THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN AND THAT, UM, REPLACING THE SINGLE USE ZONES WITH MIXED USE ACTIVATING STREET LIFE WITH CARNIVAL FOR COMMERCIAL USES ENHANCING THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FACILITIES WITH THE GREAT STREETS AND THE CREDIT APPLICATION PROPOSES MIXING, UM, MIXING UP THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL USES HERE. 
          UM, SO WE FELT THAT THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE KIND OF PROJECT THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING. 
          SO, UH, WE ARE SUPPORTING A DMU WITH A CEO OF 60 FEET, UH, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, NEXT WE'LL HEAR FROM HANNAH STARK SPEAKING FOR, UH, SPEAKING FOR THE HISTORIC EXAMINING HELLO THAN IT IS OF PRESERVATION AUSTIN. 
          WE ARE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED HISTORIC ZONING OF THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY HEADQUARTERS BUILDING. 
          WE BELIEVE THIS PROPERTY CLEARLY MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION TO BE A CITY OF AUSTIN, HISTORIC LANDMARK. 
          WE ARE NOT HERE TO COMMENT ON THE BASE ZONING CHANGE OR THE PROPOSED REPLACEMENT DESIGN. 
          ONLY THAT THE EXISTING BUILDING IS WORTHY OF HISTORIC ZONING. 
          ALL SATISFYING TO CITY CRITERIA IS SUPPLEMENTARY DUE TO ITS PREVIOUS LISTING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER. 
          IT IS CLEAR THAT THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA BUILDING HAS ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS. 
          THE 1956 BUILDING IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF 
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POST-WAR MODERN DESIGN BY A LOCAL FARM, KENNY BROOKS AND BAR, BUT DESIGN INCORPORATES ASPECTS OF THE INTERNATIONAL STYLE AND ITS FACADE FUNCTIONALIST COMMERCIAL DESIGN AND ITS SPORE PLAN AND A MORE TRADITIONAL AESTHETIC AND INTERIOR FINISHES. 
          I MEAN, NOT THE PLAIN OF SINGLE MATERIAL WERE A FEATURE OF THE FIRM AND CAN ALSO BE SEEN IN THEIR WORK AT THE AMERICAN NATIONAL BANK BUILDING. 
          NOW HOME TO REGARD JESSIE AT SIX IN COLORADO, THIS BUILDING REPRESENTS THE POST-WAR PRACTICE OF SELECTIVELY APPLYING MODERN DESIGN PRINCIPLES TO A TRADITIONAL OFFICE BUILDING BOX THAT FOUNDER OF DKG ANNIE BLANTON PASSED AWAY BEFORE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS BUILDING BEGAN. 
          THE LAND AT SAN ANTONIO IN WEST 12TH WAS PURCHASED IN 1945 YEARS BEFORE HER DEATH. 
          THE BUILDING AESTHETIC IS IMPRESSIVE ON ITS OWN, BUT IT GAINED SIGNIFICANCE BY UNDERSTANDING THE DEEP LEVEL OF CONTROL DELTA KAPPA GAMMA MEMBERS HAD ON ITS DESIGN. 
          A BUILDING COMMITTEE INTERVIEWED SIX POTENTIAL ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS AND CHOSE KENNY BROOKS AND BAR TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN. 
          AFTER THE SELECTION, THE LEADING COMMITTEE WOULD ENGAGE IN ALMOST EVERY DESIGN DECISION, WHICH HAS NO WORK ROOFING AND ELECTRICAL WORK. 
          THE WOMEN THAT DELTA KAPPA GAMMA CHOSE A FUNCTIONALIST SCHEME TO ACCOMMODATE A DIVERSE RANGE OF FUNCTIONS. 
          THIS PROPERTY WAS RECENTLY RECOGNIZED AS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT RESOURCE DURING THE OLD AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WEST DOWNTOWN HISTORIC SURVEY. 
          THIS SURVEY WAS FUNDED THROUGH A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT GRANT PROGRAM OF THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION AND A PRESERVATION AUSTIN MATCHING GRANT. 
          IT WAS ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, THE ORGANIZATION AND SURVEY RECEIVED THE 2020 PRESERVATION MERIT AWARD FROM PRESERVATION AUSTIN PRESERVATION. 
          AUSTIN HAS GREAT RESPECT FOR THE MISSION OF THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY, BUT IT IS OUR MISSION TO EMPOWER AUSTINITES TO SHAPE A MORE INCLUSIVE, RESILIENT, AND MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY CULTURE. 
          THROUGH PRESERVATION. 
          OUR ORGANIZATION HAS ADOPTED THREE ADVOCACY PRIORITIES FOR 2021, ONE BEING UNDERREPRESENTED HERITAGE, WHICH INCLUDES WOMEN'S HISTORY. 
          WE BELIEVE THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA BUILDING IS A TESTAMENT TO A WOMAN'S CHANGING PLACE IN SOCIETY DURING THE 1950S AS SEEN IN THEIR DIRECT INVOLVEMENT WITH THE DESIGN AND AESTHETIC LOSING THIS STRUCTURE WOULD ERASE A RARE EXAMPLE OF WOMEN'S CONTRIBUTION TO DESIGN AND AUSTIN WOMEN ARE TYPICALLY LEFT OUT OF HISTORICAL NARRATIVES AND UNDERREPRESENTED AMONG LOCAL HISTORIC SITES. 
          THIS BUILDING IN DOUBLE MEASURE MEETS THE CITY'S FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AUSTIN URGES THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO FOLLOW HLC, AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO ADD HISTORIC ZONING TO THIS PARCEL. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT MICHAEL WHALEN. 
          YES. 
          UH, LET ME LET THE PRESENTATION GET UP. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT'S UP. 
          WE'RE LOADING IT ABOUT FIVE SECONDS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE CAN SEE IT, MR. WAYLON, ARE YOU THERE? YEP. 
          AND HE SAID FIVE SECONDS. 
          I WAS WAITING FOR HIM TO CONFIRM, IS IT THERE? YEAH, WE CAN. 
          WE CAN SEE IT. 
          GREAT. 
          MICHAEL WHALEN ON BEHALF OF THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY INTERNATIONAL, IT'S AN AUSTIN BASED NON-PROFIT THAT SUPPORTS WOMEN EDUCATORS AROUND THE WORLD. 
          SLIDE TWO. 
          I'M HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS TWO CASES RELATED TO DELTA KAPPA GAMMA'S CURRENT OFFICE BUILDING AT FOUR 16 WEST 12TH STREET. 
          THE FIRST CASE IS DELTA KAPPA GAMMA'S REQUEST FOR DOWNTOWN MIXED USE ZONING WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, WHICH WE WOULD ASK YOU TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL. 
          APPROVING DMU HERE WOULD IS WE WILL SEE HELP SECURE A CA DELTA KAPPA GAMMA'S FUTURE AND WOULD HELP THE CITY BETTER MEET ITS HOUSING AND MOBILITY GOALS. 
          THE SECOND IS A COMPETING CASE AT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION INITIATED FOR HISTORIC ZONING, WHICH WOULD PRESERVE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA'S CURRENT ONE AND A HALF STORY OFFICE BUILDING JEOPARDIZING THEIR FINANCIAL STABILITY AND PRECLUDING THE KIND OF DOWNTOWN TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE PROJECT CALLED FOR IN IMAGINE AUSTIN, I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THESE TWO COMPETING VISIONS AND WHAT THEY WILL MEAN IN TERMS OF PLANNING OUTCOMES. 
          WE CAN GO TO SLIDE THREE. 
          SO AS I MENTIONED, DMU AND HISTORIC ZONING OFFER TWO MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE VISIONS WITH DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT OUTCOMES. 
          THE FIRST ONE I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE IMPACT TO THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY DIRECTLY. 
          NEXT SLIDE SLIDE FOUR, DELTA KAPPA GAMMA IS NOT A BUILDING. 
          THEY ARE AN ACTIVE ORGANIZATION WHOSE GRANTS AND PROGRAM SUPPORT WOMEN EDUCATORS AROUND THE WORLD. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM SOME OF THEM. 
          AND THIS SITE IS THEIR PRIMARY FINANCIAL ASSET. 
          IT IS CRUCIAL TO THEIR FUTURE, AND IT IS CRITICAL TO THEIR ABILITY TO CONTINUE THEIR MISSION OF SUPPORTING WOMEN EDUCATORS AROUND THE WORLD. 
          HISTORIC ZONING WOULD SEVERELY RESTRICT THIS ASSET AND LOCK THEM INTO ESCALATING 
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BUILDING COSTS. 
          AND IT WOULD DO SO IN THE NAME OF HISTORY, EVEN THOUGH DELTA KAPPA GAMMA'S ACTUAL HISTORY PREDATES THIS BUILDING BY NEARLY THREE DECADES, THIS IS THEIR FIFTH LOCATION AND THEIR CO-FOUNDER THEIR FOUNDER, DR. 
          BLANTON, WHO WAS JUST MENTIONED, DIED OVER A DECADE BEFORE THEY RELOCATED HERE. 
          NEXT SLIDE STAFF. 
          AND THE SPEAKER ALSO POINTED TO THE FACT THAT THIS SITE IS ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES AS A REASON FOR HISTORIC ZONING. 
          AND WHILE THIS SITE DOES HAVE NATIONAL REGISTER STATUS, I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA, THAT THE ORGANIZATION APPROVED THE APPLICATION FOR NATIONAL REGISTER STATUS TO SUPPORT AN ARCHITECTURE STUDENT WHO IS PURSUING THIS FOR A CLASS PROJECT AND THAT DELTA KAPPA GAMMA ONLY WENT AHEAD AND APPROVED GOING FORWARD WITH THE NATIONAL REGISTER COORDINATOR. 
          AFTER THAT PERSON ASSURED THEM IT WOULD IMPOSE ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY. 
          HE WROTE BACK IN AN EMAIL, NO RESTRICTIONS IN ALL CAPS. 
          LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          SLIDE SEVEN BEYOND DELTA KAPPA GAMMA. 
          HIS OWN NEEDS THOUGH. 
          WE ALSO BELIEVE DMU IS THE RIGHT CALL FROM A CITY PLANNING PERSPECTIVE WHILE DOWNTOWN IS THE OLDEST PART OF THE CITY. 
          IT IS ALSO ONE OF THE AREAS IN WHICH THERE'S A BROAD CONSENSUS THAT WE SHOULD DIRECT GROWTH AND INCREASE HOUSING IN ORDER TO MEET THE NEEDS OF CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS. 
          PAGE SEVEN, THE CITY HAS SAID IMPORTANT GOALS RELATING TO THESE NEEDS, ROUGHLY 135,000 NEW UNITS BY 2027. 
          THAT GREEN LINE ON THE SLIDE IS WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HIT EVERY YEAR IN ORDER TO MEET THAT GOAL. 
          NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE EIGHT. 
          HOWEVER, THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF NET HOUSING UNITS WE ARE PRODUCING HAS BEEN UNEVEN AND OFTEN FALLS SHORT PROJECTS LIKE OURS, WHICH WOULD ADD 280 NEW DOWNTOWN UNITS ARE KEY TO MEETING OUR HOUSING NEEDS. 
          SLIDE NINE, THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          IT IS ALSO A MEANINGFUL PART OF AUSTIN'S PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING STRATEGY. 
          APPROVING DMU WOULD ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY SAID WE ARE GOING TO DO AND CONTRIBUTE TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. 
          WE HAVE NOT COMPLETED THE DESIGN, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THIS WOULD COME TO AN EXCESS OF $500,000 FOR CONTEXT. 
          THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS IS BECOMING A KEY SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IN AUSTIN, AND IS PROJECTED TO GENERATE OVER $16 MILLION FROM COMPLETED AND IN PROGRESS DOWNTOWN PROJECTS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE 10. 
          THE OTHER MAJOR CITY PRIORITY FOR THIS PROJECT SUPPORTS IS TRANSIT. 
          YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          SLIDE 11 PUBLIC TRANSIT IS A KEY PART OF AUSTIN'S PLANS FOR MANAGING ITS MOBILITY CHALLENGES GOING FORWARD WITH THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN CALLING FOR GETTING 16% OF COMMUTERS USING TRANSIT BY 2039 TODAY, AS YOU CAN SEE ABOUT THREE TO 4% OF AUSTIN COMMUTERS TAKE TRANSIT, WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE TO PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE. 
          THIS IS THE TYPE OF GROWTH ON SLIDE 12 THAT WE WOULD NEED TO SHOW IF WE WOULD ACTUALLY NEED TO SEE IF WE WERE GOING TO MEET THAT KEY GOAL OF 16% BY 2039, WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF CATCHING UP TO DATE SLIDE 13. 
          FORTUNATELY THIS PAST NOVEMBER, AUSTIN VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTED A $7 BILLION PROJECT CONNECT BOND THAT WILL INVEST IN A ROBUST TRANSIT SYSTEM. 
          OUR SITE IS RIGHT ON THE FUTURE ORANGE AND BLUE RAIL LINE. 
          AND ALONG A CURRENT METRO RAPID LINE PROVIDING THE TYPE OF TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE PROJECT THAT IS IN THE WORDS OF THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, QUOTE, ONE OF THE SUREST WAYS AND QUOTE TO INCREASE OUR TRANSIT RIDERSHIP. 
          NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE 14. 
          IN TERMS OF THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION, HISTORIC ZONING WOULD PRESERVE THE EXISTING ONE AND A HALF STORY BUILDING. 
          WHEREAS DMU WOULD NOT LOOKING AT THESE TWO COMPETING VISIONS. 
          I BELIEVE THE DMU PROVIDES BETTER OUTCOMES, BOTH FOR DELTA KAPPA GAMMA AND FOR THE CITY, YOU GO TO SLIDE 15, PLEASE. 
          CITY POLICIES, FINALLY, STAFF, AS YOU JUST HEARD HAS ALSO RECOMMENDED IMPOSING A CONDITIONAL LOAN OVERLAY OF ONLY ALLOWING UP TO 60 FEET IN HEIGHT. 
          A 60 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT WOULD MAKE THIS PROJECT IMPOSSIBLE AND IT WOULD DIRECTLY UNDERMINE ALL OF THE CITY PRIORITIES. 
          I'VE JUST DISCUSSED AS WELL AS PROVIDING NO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING REVENUE STAFF IS BASING THIS RECOMMENDATION ON THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN, WHICH THE CITY INITIATED IN 2005, 15 YEARS AGO, AND ADOPTED IN 2011. 
          WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE 16. 
          I JUST WANT TO NOTE, WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED A BUNCH OF THESE THAT WE HAVE HAD MANY, MANY SUBSEQUENT CITY ADOPTED POLICIES, LIKE IMAGINE AUSTIN, THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS, THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT AND THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN AND THE $7 BILLION PROJECT CONNECT BOND. 
          ALL OF WHICH SUPPORT ALLOWING A TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE DOWNTOWN PROJECT WITH FULL HEIGHT AT THIS LOCATION SLIDE 17. 
          SO JUST TO RECAP, DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SUPPORTS WOMEN EDUCATORS AROUND THE WORLD AND WANTS TO PRIORITIZE ITS RESOURCES TOWARD THAT MISSION RATHER THAN TOWARDS ESCALATING BUILDING COSTS. 
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NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE 18 TO ACCOMPLISH THIS DKG HAS REQUESTED DME ZUNE ZONING, WHICH WILL HELP THEM SECURE THEIR FUTURE AND WILL HELP THE CITY DELIVER ON ITS HOUSING AND TRANSIT PROMISES, INCLUDING SUPPORTING THE SUCCESS OF THE $7 BILLION PROJECT CONNECT BOND. 
          AND FINALLY, LAST SLIDE SLIDE 19. 
          WE WOULD ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN RECOMMENDING DMU ZONING AND VOTING, NO REJECTING HISTORIC ZONING. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, NEXT WE WILL HAVE A VIDEO. 
          SO I'LL READ THE NAMES. 
          UH, THREE NAMES WILL BE, UM, PART OF THIS VIDEO. 
          SO WE HAVE MELISSA NASLUND, PAUL BYERS AND MARK LITTLEFIELD. 
           MARK LITTLEFIELD IS PRESENT CANDACE MARTIN. 
          I AM FROM THE STATE OF ARKANSAS AND, UM, I AM A RETIRED HEALTH AND WELLNESS TEACHER. 
          AFTER 35 YEARS. 
          I ALSO SPENT ABOUT SEVEN OF THOSE YEARS, COACHING GIRLS, BASKETBALL AND TRACK AND FIELD. 
          AND, UH, IN MY RETIREMENT, I HAVE FOUND MYSELF DOING, UH, QUITE A BIT OF VOLUNTEER WORK. 
          I BELIEVE THAT A CONTRIBUTION TO EDUCATION OR EDUCATORS IS BY EXTENSION A CONTRIBUTION TO ONE'S COMMUNITY. 
          I LIVE IN A RURAL STATE AND, UH, SO WE HAVE MANY, MANY SMALL SCHOOLS AND TOWNS AND COMMUNITIES THAT YOU KNOW, THEIR SCHOOLS OR THEIR HEARTBEAT. 
          AND, UM, ANY SUPPORT THAT DKG CAN GIVE THAT WILL KEEP AN EDUCATOR IN EDUCATION THAT WILL, THAT WILL JUST ENCOURAGE AN EDUCATOR, THAT THEY CAN DO THAT, THAT EXTRA THING THAT MAYBE THERE'S NO FUNDS FOR. 
          IF THEY CAN GET THAT GRANT THAT WILL PUSH THEM OVER THAT HUMP OR THAT SCHOLARSHIP TO GET A HIGHER DEGREE TO BETTER THEMSELVES AND THEIR STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITIES BENEFIT FROM THAT IN NO SMALL WAY. 
          IT FEEDS BACK INTO THE COMMUNITIES OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE RECIPIENTS OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE OFFER, WHETHER IT'S LEADERSHIP OR GRANTS OR SCHOLARSHIPS OR SPEAKING OPPORTUNITIES OR WHATEVER IT IS, ANYTHING THAT, THAT ENRICHES THE LIFE OF A TEACHER OR A STUDENT IS GOING TO ENRICH THE LIFE IN THAT COMMUNITY. 
          WHEN YOU GO BACK ALL THE WAY TO, WHEN WE WERE FOUNDED IN 1929, MANY, MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED, BUT WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO AN INCREDIBLY LONG WAY TO GO. 
          AND I DO BELIEVE THAT DKG IS STILL VERY RELEVANT. 
          UM, SO I HOPE THAT OUR FUTURE LOOKS LIKE CHANGE GROWTH AND CONTINUED FOCUS ON MEMBERS AND THE SUPPORT OF EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION AROUND THE WORLD. 
          MY NAME IS RASHAD STEWART. 
          I TAUGHT IN A GARDEN IN MY HOMETOWN OF WINNFIELD LOUISIANA. 
          ACTUALLY I TAUGHT KINDERGARTEN AT THE SCHOOL WHERE I WENT TO KINDERGARTEN. 
          I TAUGHT THERE FOR THREE YEARS, AND THEN I MOVED TO TEXAS. 
          I MOVED TO TEXAS IN 1994. 
          UH, I'VE BEEN OUT HERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT I AM STILL A LOUISIANIAN AT HEART. 
          UM, ONCE I MOVED TO TEXAS, I WAS PLACED IN A FIRST GRADE POSITION AND I HAVE BEEN FIRST GRADE EVER SINCE, AND I CAN'T SEEM TO GRADUATE FROM FIRST GRADE. 
          UM, SO THIS IS MY 30TH YEAR AS AN EDUCATOR, SEVERAL OF MY COWORKERS ARE MEMBERS OF THE EKG AND THEY KNEW THAT, UM, I WAS VERY INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY AND SO THEY FELT LIKE, UH, DKG WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE FOR ME. 
          I WENT BACK AND I READ SOME OF THE HISTORY OF DKG AND I READ ABOUT, UM, THE FOUNDER, ONE OF THE FOUNDERS, ANYWHERE BLANTON. 
          AND I AM ALL ABOUT BEING THAT STRONG WOMAN AND BEING SURROUNDED BY STRONG WOMEN AND WORKING WITH STRONG WOMEN. 
          LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT. 
          SO WHEN I WENT TO THESE MEETINGS, I VISITED THESE MEETINGS. 
          I SAW ALL OF THESE STRONG WOMEN, THESE STRONG WOMEN EDUCATORS. 
          AND SO THAT JUST PULLED ME IN, 
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WE'D GIVE THE GRANT AND AID TO EDUCATORS AND WORK IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, WE WORK WITH, UM, CHILDREN'S SHELTERS AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS, AND WE SUPPORT THE ALZHEIMER'S, UM, ASSOCIATION. 
          AND I MEAN, JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH TOGETHER. 
          I HOPE THAT, UH, DELTA KAPPA GAMMA CAN SUSTAIN FOR ANOTHER 90 YEARS, ANOTHER HUNDRED YEARS. 
          UH, I HOPE THAT IT CAN SUSTAIN AND SURVIVE AND CONTINUE TO THRIVE. 
          UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE, BUT TO OUR MEMBERS BECAUSE THERE ARE RANTS AND SCHOLARSHIPS AVAILABLE TO OUR MEMBERS SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, PREFER, UH, PURSUE FURTHER EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, UH, SO THAT WE CAN, UH, ATTEND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          I HOPE THAT WE CAN SUSTAIN AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO THRIVE AND GROW SO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND SUPPORT, UH, OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. 
          SO MY NAME IS WHITNEY SIMON, AND I'VE BEEN WITH UNICEF USA FOR THE PAST, ALMOST SIX YEARS. 
          PART OF OUR ONBOARDING IS TO HEAR ABOUT THE PARTNERS THAT THE ORGANIZATION WORKS WITH, THE INITIATIVES THAT THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD AND THE DKG WAS PRESENTED IN THAT ONBOARDING TRAINING. 
          UM, WEEK ONE WITH UNICEF USA, SIX YEARS AGO, THEIR INVESTMENT HAS BEEN USED TO SUPPORT ACTIVITIES, MAINLY IN THE AREAS OF LEARNING, UM, ACCESS TO RETENTION AND QUALITY PRIMARY SCHOOL, EDUCATION AND EMERGENCIES. 
          UM, AND IT'S SUPPORTED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WORKED TO BUILD SCHOOLS, FURNISH THOSE SCHOOLS, TRAIN TEACHERS, FACILITATE SCHOOL ACCESS FOR DISADVANTAGED CHILDREN, UM, PROVIDE ACCESS TO CLEAN WATER, AND THEN ALSO PROVIDE THE SUPPLIES THAT CHILDREN NEED TO GO TO SCHOOL AND BE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT SPACE. 
          UM, THE AIM OF THE PROGRAM REALLY IS TO CREATE THE SUSTAINABLE CHANGE, UM, TO, TO CLEAR THAT EDUCATION PATHWAY FOR CHILDREN ACROSS AFRICA, AND IT TARGETS VULNERABLE GROUPS SO THAT NO CHILD GETS LEFT BEHIND. 
          AND SO DKG HAS HELPED MOBILIZE THIS PROGRAM TO ACHIEVE THE VISION THAT IT HAS, WHICH IS ACCESS TO EQUITABLE EDUCATION ACROSS AFRICA. 
          WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP WITH DKG IN PARTICULAR IS THAT IT ILLUSTRATES THE POWER OF COLLECTIVE IMPACT WITH SUPPORT FROM THOUSANDS OF DKG MEMBERS FOR THIS PROGRAM, WE'VE REALLY BEEN ABLE TO BE THERE FOR COMMUNITIES WHEN IT'S NEEDED THE MOST. 
          AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE THIS YEAR WHEN MILLIONS OF STUDENTS ACROSS AFRICA HAD BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE CLASSROOM WITHOUT THAT CONSISTENT EKG HAS PROVIDED OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST DECADE. 
          UM, THOSE STUDENTS AND THEIR TEACHERS AND THEIR SCHOOLS AND THEIR EDUCATION SYSTEMS MORE BROADLY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THE SEAMLESS TRANSITION THAT THEY MADE TO REMOTE LEARNING, ESPECIALLY IN THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THAT TRANSITION HAS BEEN MADE THIS YEAR. 
          UM, SO IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY STRENGTHENED COMMUNITIES IN A WAY THAT, UM, THAT IS SUSTAINABLE. 
          AND WE'RE HOPING TO SEE THAT CONTINUED SUSTAINABLE IMPACT ON THE LINE AS WELL. 
          MOVING FORWARD. 
          I HOPE THAT EKG AND UNICEF CONTINUE TO, TO PRIORITIZE THAT SHARED COMMITMENT TO EDUCATION, TO SUPPORTING TEACHERS AND ENSURING AN EQUITABLE ACCESS FOR STUDENTS ACROSS AFRICA. 
          UM, I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THAT WORK FOR DECADES MORE TO COME UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT WE'VE ALREADY HAD IN DECADES PRIOR. 
          UM, THE BOTH ORGANIZATIONS CAN BE WELL POSITIONED TO ACHIEVE THAT, THAT SHARED VISION WE BOTH HAVE FOR CHILDREN GLOBALLY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, NEXT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM BECKY SADOWSKY EVENING, I'M BECKY SADOWSKY INTERNATIONAL PRESIDENT OF THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY INTERNATIONAL, WHICH IS HEADQUARTERED HERE IN AUSTIN AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOUR 16 WEALTH TRUST WEST 12TH STREET, WHERE WE HAVE BEEN LOCATED SINCE 1956. 
          IT'S A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO SEE, YES, MA'AM. 
          I WILL START THE PRESENTATION AND THE NEXT SPEAKER, ANITA SCOTT WE'LL CONCLUDE SLIDE TWO, PLEASE. 
          OUR HISTORY GOES BACK QUITE A BIT FURTHER THAN THIS BUILDING. 
          WE ARE DISCUSSING TODAY TO 1929 WHEN DR. 
          ANNIE WEBB BLANTON A PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, ODDLY, THE THIRD FEMALE PROFESSOR EVER AT UK CALLED TOGETHER WOMEN EDUCATORS OF ALL TYPES TO FORM DELTA KAPPA GAMMA TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND WOMEN EDUCATORS EVERYWHERE. 
          DR. 
          BLANTON WAS ALREADY A TRAILBLAZER HAVING ONE STATEWIDE ELECTED OFFICE, THE FIRST WOMAN TO EVER DO SO AS SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND RUNNING FOR CONGRESS IN 1922, JUST TWO YEARS 
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AFTER WOMEN FIRST FIRST RECEIVED THE RIGHT TO VOTE. 
          ALTHOUGH SHE WAS NOT ELECTED, SHE WAS SATISFIED BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO SET AN EXAMPLE THAT WOMEN SHOULD RUN FOR ALL PUBLIC OFFICES. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS FIRST MEETING OF THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY INTERNATIONAL WAS THEN CALLED DELTA KAPPA GAMMA, AND NOW CALLED DKG WAS HELD IN SECRET AT 26, 10 WITNESS YOU'RE THE UT CAMPUS, WHICH WOULD BECOME THE FIRST HOME WITH THE ORGANIZATION. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE IN ATTENDANCE WERE SEVERAL OTHER WOMEN FROM AUSTIN, AS WELL AS PLACES ACROSS TEXAS. 
          THESE WOMEN WERE EDUCATORS AT ALL LEVELS OF EDUCATION, WHICH WAS INTENTIONAL BECAUSE DR. 
          BLANTON WANTED TO SUPPORT EXCELLENCE IN EDUCATION AT ALL LEVELS. 
          THESE WOMEN BECAME ALONG WITH DR. 
          BLANTON, THE FOUNDERS OF THE ORGANIZATION. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AT THIS FIRST MEETING AT 26, 10 WITNESSED THE FOUNDERS PASSED DELTA KAPPA GAMMA'S FIRST CONSTITUTION. 
          THIS CONSTITUTION CALLED FOR THE GROUP TO AMONG OTHER THINGS, PROMOTE COOPERATION AMONG WOMEN EDUCATORS, CONFER DISTINCTION, SECURE LEGISLATION FOR BETTER SCHOOLS AND JUST CONDITIONS FOR WOMEN, TEACHERS, SECURE, EQUAL REPRESENTATION AND RECOGNITION AND GIVE FINANCIAL AID TO WOMEN, PREPARING THEMSELVES TO BE TEACHERS. 
          THESE HAVE BEEN THE FOUNDING PRINCIPLES OF DKG EVER SINCE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AFTER THAT INITIAL MEETING, DR. 
          BLEND PUT OUT A CALL TO OTHER WOMEN EDUCATORS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT SHE ASKED THEM TO KEEP IT SECRET AND EVEN USE A PSEUDONYM AND A PO BOX TO HIDE HER IDENTITY. 
          YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT AT THIS TIME, IN MANY STATES, IF A FEMALE TEACHER MARRIED, SHE WOULD BE LET GO FROM HER JOB. 
          AND EVEN THOUGH SUFFRAGE HAD BEEN WON LIMITATIONS ON THE ROLES OF WOMEN CONTINUED BY HABIT AND CUSTOMS DESPITE, OR MAYBE BECAUSE OF IT, THE GROUP GREW QUICKLY AND HELD THEIR CONVENTION IN 1930, I'M NATIVE SCOTT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE DELTA KAPPA GAMMA SOCIETY. 
          INTERNATIONAL NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          NUMBER SIX, SEVEN, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS AS THE ORGANIZATION GREW, IT MOVED TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ACROSS AUSTIN. 
          AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT WAS THE FIRST, IT WAS FIRST HEADQUARTERED AT 26, 10, WITNESSED IT THEN MOVED ALONG WITH DR. 
          BLANTON TO 1909 FIFTH STREET. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          NUMBER EIGHT, IT THEN MOVED INTO AN OFFICE. 
          IT'S A LITTLE FIELD BUILDING, WHICH WAS ONE OF AUSTIN'S FIRST HIGH RISE BUILDING. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          NUMBER NINE. 
          IT THEN MOVED TO 1309 BRASSO STREET. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          NUMBER 10, DURING THIS TIME, THE ORGANIZATION'S MEMBERSHIP AND REACH CONTINUED TO GROW. 
          IT GAINED MEMBERS FROM OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES AND AT ITS 1952 CONVENTION. 
          IT AMENDED ITS CHARTER TO BECOME AN INTERNATIONAL NONPROFIT AND ON JUNE 12TH, 1953, IT LEGALLY BECAME ONE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          NUMBER 11 IN 1956, DKG MOVED INTO ITS NOW CURRENT LOCATION, WHICH IS IT'S STIFFED AT FOUR 16 WEST 12TH STREET. 
          UNFORTUNATELY DR. 
          BLANTON HAD PASSED AWAY A NUMBER OF YEARS BEFORE AND THEN AS HAD MOST OF THE OTHER FOUNDERS, A FEW OF THEM DID ATTEND THE DEDICATION OF THE BUILDING AND FOUND HER A LALA M ODOM HANDED THE KEY TO THEN PRESIDENT EDNA BOYD IN A CEREMONIAL PASSING OF THE TORCH TO THE NEXT GENERATION OF DKG LEADERS. 
          NONE OF THE FOUNDERS EVER OFFICE AT WHAT IS NOW OUR HEADQUARTERS. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST OF WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE HISTORY OF THIS ORGANIZATION HAPPENED PRIOR TO OCCUPYING THE 12TH STREET BUILDING, BUT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THAT'S OF COURSE VERY IMPORTANT, BUT OUR CURRENT WORK CONTINUES TO BUILD UPON THE VISION AND GOALS OF DR. 
          BLANTON AND ALL THE FOUNDERS. 
          WE CONTINUE THE WORK, NOT TO MAKE HISTORY, BUT TO SUPPORT WOMEN EDUCATORS EVERYWHERE. 
          IT IS OUR HOPE THAT YOUR DECISIONS TONIGHT WILL ALLOW US TO BUILD OUR FUTURE AND CONTINUE THE WORK BEGUN BY A FOUNDER, OUR FOUNDERS, MANY DECADES AGO. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          NUMBER 12, OUR ORGANIZATION OF FEMALE EDUCATORS BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, BUILT THIS BUILDING AND KEPT OUR EYE ON THE FUTURE. 
          WE REQUEST THAT YOU ALLOW US TO KEEP PKG WORKING FOR WOMEN EDUCATORS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND VOTE AGAINST 
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REZONING THIS PROPERTY, HISTORIC AGAINST OUR WISHES, AND INSTEAD VOTE TO APPROVE DMU ZONING WITHOUT CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT WE HAVE CLARA WEINBERG REMINDER, SELECT STAR SIX  ARE THEY CALLING BACK IN, IS THERE A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES CHAIR? UH, JUST, UM, TRY TO REACH OUT TO MS. WEINBERG AND UH, IF SHE'S UNABLE TO UNMUTE TO PLEASE CALL BACK IN MS.  PLEASE. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO GOOD EVENING, CLAIRE WEINBERG, UM, PRINCIPAL WITH SCB ARCHITECTS. 
          SO FOLLOWING UP ON ALL THE GREAT NARRATIVES THAT YOU'VE HEARD SO FAR, OUR VISION FOR THE PROJECT SEEKS TO CREATE A REFINED MULTIFAMILY PROJECT THAT FURTHER DEFINES A SIGNIFICANT CORNER WITHIN AUSTIN'S URBAN FABRIC WITH A DESIGN THAT FEATURES THAT, THAT ALIGNS WITH THE CITY'S AREA WIDE GUIDELINES, NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT GOALS, AND REENGAGES WITH THE PUBLIC REALM, BY CREATING A LIVELY STREET STREETSCAPE AND FURTHER ENGAGING WITH ITS NEIGHBORS IN SIMULTANEOUSLY OF COURSE, HONORING THE MISSION OF DKG. 
          UM, AND IT'S, UH, EDUCATION PATHWAYS ON PAGE ONE, YOU SEE THE CURRENT BUILDING THAT IS A QUIET ONE AND A HALF STORY BUILDING THAT SITS BACK FROM THE MAIN STREET WAY. 
          WOULD THEY DEFINE MASONRY WALLS THAT FOCUS IT'S PROGRAM INWARD VERSUS OUTWARD TOWARDS THE PUBLIC REALM? OUR GOALS FOR THE SITE ON PAGE TWO IS TO BEGIN TO OPEN UP, UH, THE PROGRAM TO ALLOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT. 
          WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON PAGE TWO IS SOME INSPIRATIONAL IMAGE, UM, THAT SEEK TO ELICIT THE INSPIRATION OF MID CENTURY MODERN ARCHITECTURE, THE GRACIOUSNESS OF BEAUTIFUL MATERIALS THAT OPENED UP THE SOFT GARDENS AND PLACES FOR GATHERING THAT LEADS TO THE ACTIVATION OF THE STREET GROUND FLOOR AND ENGAGING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND AS WELL AS ACKNOWLEDGING  MISSION. 
          AND ANDY HUDSON WILL BE PRESENTING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR COMMEMORATIVE GARDEN ON PAGE THREE. 
          UM, WE BEGIN TO ILLUSTRATE HOW THE NEW PROGRAM FUNCTIONS, UM, ARE, ARE ORGANIZED TO ALLOW FOR THAT ENGAGEMENT. 
          YOU'RE SEEING THE RESIDENTIAL ENTRY ON SAN ANTONIO, A DISCRETE VEHICULAR OFF NEXT TO THE LOBBY, AND THEN LOADING AREA OFF THE ALLEY, ALLOWING FOR THE FOCUS TO BE ON SAN ANTONIAN AND 12TH STREET, AND TO BE FOCUSED ON THE PEDESTRIAN REALM, UH, ALONG 12TH STREET, THERE'S ALSO THE INCLUSION OF THE DKG COMMEMORATIVE GARDEN NESTLED AND WITHIN A NICE DISCREET GARDEN AND PLANTED AREA IN THE COMMEMORATIVE GARDEN, OUTDOOR ROOM. 
          ANOTHER HIGHLIGHT AT THIS PLAN, UM, IS, UH, UH, IN OUR PLAN ON, YOU KNOW, SORRY, YOU'RE ON OUR OVERALL PLANS, UM, ON THE GROUND FLOOR IS, UH, INTEGRATING WITHIN THIS ZINE AND FURTHER ILLUSTRATE HOW WE CAN REUSE SOME OF THE EXISTING DKG BUILDING. 
          WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS SOME OF THE REUSE OF THAT BUILDING TO HELP COMMEMORATE THE GARDEN AND FURTHER DEFINE THE INSIDE OF OUR RETAIL VENUES. 
          UM, THE EXISTING MATERIALS ARE CELEBRATED AND ARE USED TO DEFINE THE FEATURE OF THE RETAIL SPACE. 
          SO YOU'RE SEEING AN OUTLINE ON THE INTERIOR SPACE AND THEN IT COMES BACK OUTSIDE AND HELPS DEFINE OUR GARDEN AREA. 
          PAGE FOUR SHOWS THE PROJECT FROM 12TH STREET PICKING UP ON THE LANGUAGE OF THE DETAIL G BUILDING A, AN HOMAGE TO MID-CENTURY MODERN WITH AN EMPHASIS IN HORIZONTAL COLUMNS WITH A WALL OVERHANG AND ALSO A GLAZED ENCLOSURE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO REUSE OF THE EXISTING 
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MATERIALS. 
          PAGE FIVE, ILLUSTRATES THE SAN ANTONIO SIDE, UH, WITH A, UH, CASCADING COMMEMORATIVE STEPS, GARDEN AREAS, A GRACIOUS RESIDENTIAL ENTRY, UH, FOR IT TO BE FUTURE RESIDENTS AND ALSO THE CONTINUITY OF THE GARDEN WALLS AS IT TURNS A CORNER FROM, UM, FROM 12TH, 12TH STREET. 
          SO, UM, THAT WAS YOUR TIME. 
          UM, DO YOU HAVE FINAL THOUGHTS? NOPE. 
          JUST TURNING IT OVER TO ANDY WHO WILL SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE GARDEN AND ACTUALLY HERE TO SPEAK, UM, ABOUT THE GARDEN I GO IN. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, SLIDE SEVEN, PLEASE. 
          AS ILLUSTRATED HERE IN GREEN, THE GARDENS WERE A PART OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING AND SITE DESIGN. 
          HOWEVER, THE EXISTING GARDENS ARE INWARD FACING OFF AND PRIVATE OR SECRET AND NATURE. 
          MOST PEOPLE THAT WALK BY THE SITE WOULD NOT EVEN KNOW THAT THEY ARE THERE. 
          SLIDE EIGHT, PLEASE. 
          THIS IS OUR PROPOSED CONCEPT PLAN. 
          THE DKG GARDEN IS PROPOSED TO BE PUBLIC FACING INCLUSIVE AND INTEGRATED WITHIN THE 12TH STREET. 
          STREETSCAPE. 
          THE CONCEPT IS INSPIRED BY THE ORIGINAL SECRET GARDEN, BUT IS INSTEAD OPEN TO THE STREETS AND ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC IN AN INTENTIONAL WAY. 
          BUILDING UPON DKG MISSION. 
          THE GARDEN PRESENTS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TO TELL THE STORY OF DELTA KAPPA GAMMA. 
          THE PROPOSED GARDEN CONTAINS CONTEMPLATIVE ELEMENTS LIKE BENCHES AND ORNAMENTAL PLANTINGS, AS WELL AS A COMMUNAL TABLE SPACE WITH CONNECTIONS TO THE STREETSCAPE TO FOSTER INTERACTION. 
          WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY THIS GARDEN PRESENTS TO SHARE THE STORY DKG ON THE SITE, BRING AWARENESS TO THE ORGANIZATION AND CONTINUE TO SHARE THEIR MESSAGE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, NEXT WE'VE GOT A TESTIMONY FROM KEVIN SUGE, JAKE EBIRD, AND MICHAEL GARDENY WITH THE VIDEO. 
          MY NAME IS INCUBATOR INCUBATOR AND I'M A TEACHER FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF ICELAND. 
          72, GOT A DIPLOMA IN MANAGEMENT AND MATHEMATICS FROM CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY IN ENGLAND. 
          GREAT BRITAIN, 76, AND A DEGREE IN COMPUTER SCIENCE FROM UNIVERSITY OF ICELAND, 87. 
          SO I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN IT, EDUCATION ALL MY LIFE DKG IS MORE THAN A BUILDING. 
          AND WE REALIZED THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO MOVE TO A MORE APPROPRIATE HOUSING. 
          WHAT I HOPE FOR THE FUTURE OF DKG IS THAT WE CAN CONCENTRATE ON OUR VISION AND OUR GOALS AND ENCOURAGING WOMEN AND EMPOWER THEM, HELPING EDUCATE THIS TO MAKE THE FUTURE OF EDUCATION BRIGHT AND PROSPEROUS WORLDWIDE. 
          I'M SHANTELLE DENISE, I'M THE ASSISTANT DEAN AT THE MCCOMBS SCHOOL OF BUSINESS, AND THEN A DIRECTOR OF EXECUTIVE EDUCATION. 
          I ARE FLAWED IN THIS CASE, THEIR WILLINGNESS TO CHANGE AND HOW PROGRESSIVE THEY ARE. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT SHOWS. 
          IT SHOWS THAT THEY ARE PROGRESSIVE AND THAT THEY KNOW WHAT ARE THE IMPORTANT VALUES AND THE VALUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR DKG TO, UH, TO OPERATE IN THE FUTURE IS NOT THE BUILDING CERTAINLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUILDING. 
          IT'S, UH, IT'S, UH, THE CULTURE, THEIR VALUES, THEIR VISION. 
          AND I THINK THEY ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, TALENTED WOMEN WHO WANT THE BEST. 
          THEIR VISION ALSO IS NOT SELFISH. 
          IT'S TOTALLY, YOU KNOW, THE BEST FOR THEIR MEMBERS, BUT BEYOND THEIR MEMBERS, IT'S BEST FOR SOCIETY. 
          AND, UM, SO PRETTY EXCITING ORGANIZATION TO WORK WITH. 
          MY NAME IS . 
          NOW I AM FROM MEXICO. 
          I AM A MOTHER, A GRANDMOTHER OF 15, A RETIRED TEACHER. 
          I KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO BE MORE PROFESSIONAL THAN IN OUR ADMINISTRATION AND BUDGET, IT IS NECESSARY NOT TO BE PUTTING FONTS INTO A BUILDING THAT ALREADY GAVE WHAT IT HAD TO GIVE. 
          WE HAVE THE MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO EXTEND BENEFITS OF OUR SOCIETY TO MORE EDUCATORS. 
          WE DEFINITELY HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE 
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SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTE CONTRIBUTIONS TO AID THE PATIENT AND NOT ALL THE, IN THE STATES ON OUR, WITHIN OUR MEMBERS. 
          YOU'VE BOOKED WORTHWHILE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          DO WE HAVE DAN CASHIN ON THE PHONE? SURE. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE HIM ON THE LINE. 
          HE WASN'T PRESENT. 
          I BELIEVE HE MAY HAVE HAD A SICK BABY. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS. 
          WE'LL GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT, UH, REBUTTAL, MR. WAYLON. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M GOING TO BE VERY QUICK. 
          I THINK YOU'VE HEARD AND SEEN THE POINT, WHICH IS, THIS IS AN HONEST HONOR SOCIETY SUPPORTING WOMEN EDUCATORS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. 
          IT IS NOT ABOUT A BUILDING. 
          UM, THEY'RE DOING IMPORTANT WORK. 
          I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THAT THEY GOT SOME VIGNETTES FROM PEOPLE INTERNATIONALLY. 
          AND YOU ALSO SAW THAT THIS WAS NOT THEIR FIRST, NOT THEIR SECOND, NOT THEIR THIRD OR NOT EVEN THEIR FOURTH HEADQUARTERS. 
          THIS WAS THEIR FIFTH HEADQUARTERS. 
          AND THAT AS ANY ORGANIZATION NATURALLY EVOLVES AND GROWS, IT MOVES FROM TIME TO TIME AND DOESN'T WANT TO BE, UH, BOUND TO ITS PARTICULAR LOCATION MOVING FORWARD FOR THE ORGANIZATION, UM, TO DO SO. 
          THAT IS TO MOVE FORWARD AND CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK THAT IT'S DONE. 
          I THINK YOU'VE HEARD IN A COMPELLING WAY THAT IT INCLUDES VOTING NO ON THE HISTORIC, UH, ZONING RECOMMENDATION THAT HAS COME FROM HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION SO THAT THEY ARE NOT DOOMED TO THIS BUILDING. 
          AND IT WOULD MEAN VOTING YES TO DMU WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONAL OVERLAY SO THAT THE CITY'S CURRENT POLICIES CAN BE IMPLEMENTED AND, UH, THEY CAN GO FORWARD OR THE, THE, THE BUYER CAN GO FORWARD WITH A DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM APPLICATION, WHICH INCLUDES AS WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED A MEANINGFUL CONTRIBUTION TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. 
          THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY, UH, I'M HERE AS WELL AS THE ARCHITECT AND OTHERS TO, UH, DISCUSS ANY OF THE IMAGES OR ANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HEARD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT. 
          COMMISSIONER SNYDER, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON IS A SECOND. 
          EVERYBODY IN FAVOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER SEEKER. 
          I DON'T SEE HER ON, BUT THAT WAS 11 ZERO. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. 
          ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS YOU WANT TO START OFF MICHELLE OR JERUSHA, HERE'S HOW YOU'RE ON MUTE. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN FIND MY MOUSE. 
          UM, UH, SO THE BIG QUESTION, I THINK THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT AND MAYBE THE APPLICANTS ARCHITECT. 
          SO IN MY HEAD, I WAS IMAGINING A VERY TALL BUILDING, BUT IT DESIGNED IN A WAY STRUCTURALLY THAT WOULD INCORPORATE THOSE PARTS OF THE BUILDING THAT ARE DEEMED HISTORICALLY RELEVANT INTO THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE. 
          I KNOW THAT LIDS COST MORE, BUT WAS THAT EVEN, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF A ASK, BUT WAS THAT EVEN LOOKED AT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, A POSSIBILITY AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW MUCH OF THE STRUCTURE HAS TO BE RETAINED TO MAINTAIN THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION THAT, IS THERE ANY WAY TO DO THAT AGAIN, I REALIZED THERE'S COSTS TO THAT, BUT WAS THAT LOOKED AT, IS IT DESIGN OPS AND CLARA IS ALSO ON OUR WEINBERG ALSO ON AND CAN ANSWER. 
          BUT SPECIFICALLY WE WENT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION TWICE AND EXPLORED OVER A, UH, MORE THAN A 60 DAY PERIOD THAT POSSIBILITY AND IT'S PHYSICALLY IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE. 
          IT'S A ONE AND A HALF STORY BUILDING. 
          UM, IT IS, UH, UH, MADE A BRICK, WHICH, AND IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY DIFFICULT, BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE WE THINK TO GET, UH, WELL NOTHING'S IMPOSSIBLE, BUT CERTAINLY WOULD BE EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT TO PUT A 374 FOOT TALL RESIDENTIAL 
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STRUCTURE ABOVE THE BUILDING. 
          SO INSTEAD WE PIVOTED AND HAIR GOING TO BE REUSING TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY ELEMENTS THAT WILL BE OUTWARD FACING, UM, ON THE SAN ANTONIO SIDE AND ON THE, UH, 12TH STREET SIDE AND INSIDE TO ACCENTUATE THE, UH, LOBBY. 
          AND I THINK WE SAW SOME RENDERINGS OF THAT ON THE ARCHITECTURAL MR. WAYLON, I NEED TO MOVE ON. 
          I'M GOING TO RUN AT A TIME. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU. 
          YOU GAVE ME THE ANSWER I NEEDED FROM YOU. 
          I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO STAFF REAL QUICK. 
          UM, AND I WANT TO ASK STAFF A QUESTION, UH, THE HISTORIC LANDMARK STAFF, WHAT ACTUALLY, WHAT PARTS OF THE BUILDING HAS TO BE RETAINED AT A MINIMUM TO THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION? WELL, COMMISSIONER, UM, THAT WOULD REALLY COME DOWN TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION DECISION AND EVALUATING ANY SORT OF PROPOSAL LIKE THAT. 
          UH, THERE, THERE IS NO, UH, THERE'S NO PROHIBITION FROM IT BEING NATIONAL REGISTER, UH, FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDING, THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION DOESN'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY, THE CITY DOES. 
          AND THE FACT THAT IT'S LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER QUALIFIES THAT IT HAS A LANDMARK. 
          SO ANY MODIFICATIONS INCLUDING DEMOLITION WOULD NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY. 
          SO DO YOU AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT THAT, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY OUT OF THE REALM OF FEASIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THIS BUILDING AND PUT A 400 FOOT STRUCTURE ON THE SAME SIDE. 
          UH, I THINK THEY HAVE MADE THAT PRESENTATION TO OUR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. 
          I GUESS THE BIGGER QUESTION IS WHY THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A CLOSE TO 400 FOOT STRUCTURE ON THE SITE THAT COULDN'T INCORPORATE MORE OF THE BUILDING INTO IT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, UH, UH, MR. TEDESCO, I HAVE YOU ON THE LINE, IS IT COMMON FOR BUILDINGS TO BE GIVEN THIS HISTORIC DESIGNATION WHEN THE PERSON OF IMPORTANT, AS, AS MENTIONED, NEVER OCCUPIED THE BUILDING? I KNOW IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION THEY FARMED, BUT TO THEIR POINT, UH, THIS INDIVIDUAL NEVER SET FOOT IN THE BUILDING ITSELF. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT UNCOMMON OR DOES THAT OCCUR, YOU KNOW, FREQUENTLY, I'M JUST TRYING TO GAUGE WHETHER THIS IS A, A UNIQUE CASE. 
          YEAH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A UMI CAKE COMMISSIONER. 
          IT'S, UH, THE FACT THAT THE FOUNDER OF THE ORGANIZATION DIDN'T LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO HAVE HER OFFICE IN THE BUILDING IN THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING IS REALLY NEITHER HERE NOR THERE, UH, THE FACT THAT THE ORGANIZATION BUILT IT, THAT SHE FOUNDED IS THE SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND LASTLY, DO YOU KNOW IF ANY OF THE OTHER, UH, BUILDINGS THAT THIS ORGANIZATION OCCUPIED HAVE HISTORIC DESIGNATION? THEY LISTED ABOUT SIX, I THINK, UH, OF THE LITTLEFIELD BUILDING, I WOULD IMAGINE. 
          BUT ARE THERE ANY OTHERS, DO YOU, BUT NO. 
          NO, THE OTHERS DUDE, IF THEY'RE EVEN STILL STANDING. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M FINISHED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER WITH QUESTIONS. 
          HI. 
          UM, I THINK THIS IS FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM PRESERVATION, AUSTIN, IF SHE'S STILL ON THE LINE. 
          YES, I'M STILL HERE. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO, UH, I, I WORKED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THIS BUILDING FOR, UH, 20 YEARS AND I KNOW THIS PROPERTY. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY, UH, INTERESTING, UNIQUE, PRETTY WONDERFUL PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE. 
          AND I WONDERED IF I, I'M NOT AWARE OF A LOT OF MID CENTURY ARCHITECTURE THAT HAS HISTORIC PRESER HISTORIC STATUS IN THE CITY. 
          I THINK, UM, WE JUST, UM, DESIGNATED, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE EAST SIDE I'M BLANKING ON, UH, WHICH HAS A LOT OF, UM, PIECES FROM THIS ERA. 
          BUT COULD YOU COMMENT ON THAT AND COMMENT ON THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS BUILDING ITSELF, ARCHITECTURALLY? YEAH. 
          UM, WE AGREE. 
          WE ALSO AT OUR AT PRESERVATION AUSTIN THINK 
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THAT THERE IS DEFINITELY A LACK OF MID-CENTURY MODERN BUILDINGS BEING DESIGNATED RIGHT NOW. 
          AND I THINK YOU MIGHT BE REFERRING TO THE ROGER WASHINGTON'S, UM, DISTRICT THAT WAS DESIGNATED, THAT FEATURES SOME GREAT MID-CENTURY HOUSES THAT WAS RECENTLY DESIGNATED A LOCAL DISTRICT. 
          UM, AND WE REALLY THINK THIS BUILDING IS JUST A REALLY SPECTACULAR EXAMPLE OF DESIGN FROM THIS ERA. 
          AND WE FIND EVEN MORE COMPELLING THAT THE WOMEN THEMSELVES REALLY PLAYED A BIG ROLE. 
          WE THINK THAT IS KIND OF THE BIGGER STORY HERE THAT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSING ON, THAT IT WASN'T JUST THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM. 
          THEY HAD FEEDBACK FROM THE WOMEN IN THE ORGANIZATION AS WELL. 
          THANKS. 
          UM, ARE THERE OTHER, UH, INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS LIKE THIS IN THE CITY THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF FROM, FROM THIS ERA, UM, EITHER THAT ARE DESIGNATED OR ARE DESIGNATED AND HAVE THIS LEVEL OF QUALITY? UM, THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER QUESTION DIRECTED AT HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE STAFF. 
          I DON'T HAVE MY SPREADSHEET UP WITH ME RIGHT NOW, SO THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT FASTER. 
          AND I CAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND QUESTION FOR MR. TEDESCHI TOO. 
          SO PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          WE DEFINITELY HAVE A LACK OF A MID-CENTURY MODERN COMMERCIAL ARCHITECTURE. 
          THAT'S BEEN DESIGNATED ALMOST EVERYTHING WE HAVE THAT DATES FROM THE SPIRIT IS RESIDENTIAL. 
          AND, UM, MR. SADECKI WHILE, UH, WHILE I'VE GOT YOU. 
          UM, I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED. 
          UH, DID YOU SAY THIS IS THE LAST STOP FOR THIS? IF WE DON'T SUPER APPROVES THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION, THEN, THEN THAT IT, THE COUNCIL HAS NO, UM, WON'T REVIEW THIS AT ALL. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          COMMISSIONER A HUNDRED, THE STATE LAW, THERE NEEDS TO BE A SUPER MAJORITY OF EITHER THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, WHICH DIDN'T HAPPEN OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR IT TO EVEN REACH THE COUNCIL. 
          SO WITHOUT A SUPER MAJORITY TONIGHT IN FAVOR OF HISTORIC ZONING, THEN THIS CASE WILL NOT REACH THE COUNCIL FOR EVALUATION AND DECISION. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT, NEXT QUESTION. 
          NO OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          I HAVE ONE FOR STAFF. 
          MAYBE. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO A STAFF I'M LOOKING THROUGH, I GUESS I'M TALKING ABOUT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BOTH ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN HERE. 
          I THINK SO. 
          UM, THE SENTENCE STRIKES ME AS ODD. 
          I'M GOING TO BOUNCE IT OFF TO YOU GUYS. 
          IF THEY ARE SEEKING A DOWNTOWN BONUS, THEN I NEED TO COME BACK FOR REMOVAL OF THE OVERLAY THAT WE ARE PUTTING ON THROUGH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY AT THIS MOMENT, WHEN WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THEY DO WANT TO DO A BUILDING THAT'S TALLER THAN THE ONE 20. 
          I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY WE WOULD WANT TO THROW, WHY CITY STAFF WOULD WANT TO THROW UP AN OBVIOUS WHAT, WHAT FEELS LIKE ALMOST ROADBLOCK FOR, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REASONING BEHIND IT. 
          UM, MARK WOULD IMPROVE STAFF THAT PARAGRAPH WAS SPECIFICALLY PUT IN THERE TO BE CLEAR THAT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WERE MAKING BASED ON THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN WAS INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING. 
          AND IF YOU IMPOSE THE CONDITION, IT WOULD BE AN ITERATIVE PROCESS. 
          THEY'D BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE THEY WENT TO THE DOWNTOWN, UM, BONUS PROGRAM BOARD CAME BACK TO YOU FOR THAT. 
          SO, BECAUSE I THINK WE ACTUALLY DID A GOOD JOB OF SHOWING THAT IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE THAT INTERPRETATION COMES OFF OF ONE THING THAT HAPPENED IN 2011. 
          AND THEN SINCE THEN THERE'VE BEEN ALL THESE OTHER THINGS, INCLUDING THE DENSITY BONUS THAT ALLOWS FOR 400 FEET ON THIS VERY SITE ADOPTED LATER. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, GOSH, I SURE WOULD LOVE TO ASK THE FOLKS AT, UM, DELTA KAPPA GAMMA, IF THEY PLAN TO STAY IN AUSTIN, SHOULD THIS ALL OCCUR? CAUSE I KNOW IT'S THEIR HEADQUARTERS. 
          I'D LOVE TO KEEP THEM, BUT I CAN'T ASK THEM THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          I DON'T THINK, BUT THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. SHEA? JUST A REAL QUICK QUESTION. 
          JUST, UM, STAFF UNDER THE DMU. 
          UM, IF WE DID THE CEO, I MEAN, LIKE YOU'RE RECOMMEND THE CEO OF 68. 
          SO DOES THAT PRECLUDE THEM FROM ANY HEIGHT DENSITY BONUS? I MEAN, WHAT'D, YOU JUST BE CAPPED AT THAT? I MEAN, WHAT, IS THERE ANY WAY TO KNOW? HMM. 
          IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THE DENSITY 
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BONUS, BUT THE DENSITY BONUS IS BASED ON THE PRIMARY ENTITLEMENTS. 
          AND SO, UM, IT MAKES ANY REQUESTS THAT THEY MAKE, UM, A BIGGER ASK. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WITH DMU 60, WHAT COULD THEY POTENTIALLY GET TO WITH AFFORDABILITY OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WITH THE DENSITY BONUS BASED ON SAY AFFORDABILITY? YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. 
          UM, UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT MECHANISM WORKS. 
          I HAVEN'T WORKED IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, TO ME IT'S SO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO IS, IS TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME TYPE OF AFFORDABILITY THROUGH DENSITY BONUS. 
          AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO GMU CEO OF 60, ALL OF A SUDDEN, JUST WE JUST STOPPED, THEN WE GOT NOTHING. 
          SO, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE NICE TO UNDERSTAND MAYBE THE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THE, THE, UM, THE APPLICANT CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM STAFF VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR WHATEVER IN BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, ABOUT GETTING, YEAH. 
          SO THIS IS MICHAEL WHALE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, THE 60 FOOT, UH, CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WOULD LIMIT THE HEIGHT TO 60 FEET. 
          THAT DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM DOES NOT PROVIDE A WAY TO OVERCOME THAT CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. 
          SO THAT IS WHY CITY STAFF CORRECTLY SAYS THAT IF THERE'S A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OF 60 FEET, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO RESOUND TO REMOVE THAT, GO TO REGULAR DMU, AND THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          I SEE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO NOW. 
          OTHERWISE, IF WE DID DO WHAT STAFF WAS DOING, YOU WOULD, YOU COULD JUST END UP BEING BACK WITH US AND WE'D JUST BE DOING THIS ALL OVER AGAIN. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOTCHA. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS OR QUESTIONS SEEING NONE? IS THERE A MICHELLE ANDERSON? I CAN MAKE A MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          GO FOR IT. 
          TO DENY HISTORIC ZONING THE DMU WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. 
          CAN WE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? OH, I'M SO SORRY. 
          YES. 
          I'M NOT GREAT AT THAT. 
          LET'S CLOSE A MOTION CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSIONERS ARE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER YANNIS BURRITO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, ALL IN FAVOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'VE GOT 12 ZERO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MOTION. 
          SORRY. 
          COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. 
          WOULD YOU PLEASE RESTATE THAT? DENY HISTORIC END ZONE DMU WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND TWO MOTIONS? I'M HAPPY TO SPLIT THAT MOSTLY. 
          UH, WE CAN SPLIT. 
          UM, WE CAN SPLIT THE QUESTION. 
          SO, UM, LET'S GO WITH, AND UM, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER, CAUSE I THINK IT MAKES MORE SENSE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO GO BE SEVEN. 
          AND UM, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION ON B SEVEN, THIS IS REGARDING THE HISTORIC ZONING. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER ANDERSON TO DENY HIS STORY'S ZONING. 
          OKAY. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER SHEA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? UM, MR. ANDERSON, I THOUGHT ONE OF THOSE SPEAKERS SAID IT BEST. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IS ABOUT THIS. 
          ISN'T ABOUT THE BUILDING. 
          THIS IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. 
          THIS IS ABOUT THE CULTURE. 
          AND THIS IS ABOUT WHAT THIS AMAZING ORGANIZATION DOES AROUND THE WORLD. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HATE THE IDEA OF A NONPROFIT IN THEIR HOME, BUT A NONPROFIT IN ANY HOME, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHING ROOTS AND, AND, AND BEING A PART OF THAT COMMUNITY AND THEN NEEDING TO MOVE FOR THEIR OWN REASONS. 
          BUT THEN THEIR HISTORY IN THAT SPACE IS THEN USED AGAINST THEM. 
          THAT JUST, THAT JUST DOESN'T REALLY SEEM LIKE SOMETHING I'D WANT TO BE A PART OF. 
          AND THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO, TO ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND BE THE ORGANIZATION THEY NEED TO BE IN AND TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          THAT ISN'T A GREAT LOCATION FOR A LOT OF, LOT OF HOMES. 
          OKAY. 
          DO I HAVE ANYBODY KAREN SHAREPOINT? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PROPOSE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION. 
          UM, IF I CAN GET, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR A SECOND, SO SEEKER FOR YOUR SECRET. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT? YES. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WOULD BE SAID BY THIS ORGANIZATION OR ALL THE PEOPLE 
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THAT COME BEFORE US OPPOSING THE, THIS DESIGNATION. 
          I MEAN, YOU CAN SAY WHAT THEY SAID. 
          ANYBODY COULD ORGANIZATION COULD SAY THAT THEY DO GOOD THINGS. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE HEARD SOME CHURCHES WE'VE HEARD FROM OTHER ENTITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY WANT TO UTILIZE THAT MONEY FOR BETTER, FOR SOME OTHER PURPOSE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE SAID BY THE INDIVIDUAL THEY WANT, OR, YOU KNOW, USE THAT MONEY FOR SOMETHING BETTER IN THEIR LIFE. 
          I MEAN, THAT ARGUMENT COULD BE SAID, IN ALL CASES, IT'S UNDERSTOOD, UM, THAT THIS HISTORIC DESIGNATION DOES PUT SOME LIMITS ON WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO ON, ON THE VIABILITY OF THE SITE. 
          IT HAPPENS EVERY TIME. 
          SO, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK I WOULD THINK WE SHOULD LET COUNCIL DECIDE IF WE VOTE SUPER MAJORITY. 
          THIS AT LEAST HAS ITS DAY IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. 
          SO MY MAIN OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO PUSH THIS ALONG AND GET IT TO COUNCIL. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE HISTORIC HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW ROBERT'S RULES. 
          UH, IF THEY WOULD HAVE, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN PUSHED ON TO COUNCIL, UH, YOU KNOW, A TECHNICAL GLITCH, BUT I THINK COUNCIL SHOULD LOOK, UH, SEE THIS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, UM, SUPPORT THE, UH, HISTORIC DESIGNATION. 
          ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST MR.  AND YOU CHAIR SITE. 
          I THINK, YOU KNOW, I HEAR THE SERVE. 
          AND SO IN HERE BOTH WAYS, AND I CAN SEE SERVICE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE ORGANIZATION AND RESPONDERS AND WHAT THEY DID. 
          THERE'S NO DOUBT ON THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE WORK THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THIS BUILDING WHEN RECEIVING OR ROAMING AMOUNT OF EMAILS AND, YOU KNOW, CORRESPONDENCE FROM MEMBERS OF THE ORGANIZATION AND US DO NOT MORE BOARDED AGE. 
          AND I THINK ONE, THERE WAS ONE THAT REALLY STRUCK ME. 
          SO I'M GOING TO READ IT OUT FROM JESSIE'S SUITORS. 
          AND SHE SAID, OUR MISSION, VISION, AND PURPOSES NOW STANDARD ACROSS PHONES. 
          DO WE CONTINUE TO USE OUR RESOURCES TO SUPPORT AN AGING NONDESCRIPT BUILDING WITH EVERGREEN BUILDING AND MENTIONED MAINTENANCE COSTS? OR DO WE INVEST THAT MONEY IN WHAT REALLY COUNTS HELPING LEADING WOMEN EDUCATORS, IN FACT, EDUCATION WORLDWIDE TO LEADERSHIP, TRAINING, GRANTS, SCHOLARSHIPS, AND PROJECTS AT THE LOCAL STATE AND INTERNATIONAL LEVELS. 
          I URGE YOU TO SEE THAT OUR GOALS ARE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN 65 YEAR OLD BRICKS AND MORTAR. 
          AND I HEAR COMMISSIONER AND SHAWS, JERRY SHAW HAS GONE MOST FOLKS THAT COME IN HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF ECONOMIC BENEFIT THEY CAN GAIN FROM IT, INCLUDING VIGILS. 
          I THINK THE DIFFERENCE FROM ME IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUALS SAYING, I WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE MONEY FOR MY PROPERTY VERSUS AN ORGANIZATION SAYING THAT THIS LETS OUR MISSION LIVE ON IS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DUKE COMMUNITY BENEFITS SIDE-BY-SIDE AND I THINK WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS THAT BY WORKING IN AGE, WE WILL REALLY BE HURTING THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THIS ORGANIZATION AND ITS MISSION. 
          AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY CLEAR IN TERMS OF THAT. 
          SO I WILL BE WANTING TO FENCE THIS MOTION. 
          ANYBODY SPEAKING FOR THE MOTION COMMISSIONER SR AYE. 
          YES. 
          THE EVENING, UM, THE LADY THAT I WOULD VOTE AGAINST HISTORIC AND I'M STILL POSSIBLY A BETSY MINE. 
          HOWEVER, I WAS TO THE POINT WHERE COMMISSIONER SHAW WAS THAT IS THAT, SHOULD WE DECIDE THIS? OR SHOULD COUNSEL DECIDE THIS? WE HAVE SO MANY, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXEMPT EXAMPLES IN COMMERCIAL MID-CENTURY MODERN INTERNATIONAL. 
          SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD REALLY THINK THROUGH HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS, THIS BUILDING, WHICH I AGREE IS NOT THE DECIDING FACTOR. 
          I THINK IT'S THE WOMEN'S ORGANIZATION AND I SUPPORT THEM FULLY. 
          CAN WE INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE OVERALL DESIGN SO WE COULD KEEP THIS? YES, THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES OF MID-CENTURY MODERN IN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, BUT VERY FEW IN THE COMMERCIAL. 
          LET'S SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT THIS CAN BE, UH, SAY SALVAGED AND INCORPORATED INTO THE DMU BUILDING AT, UH, 374 FEET AND SUPPORT THE WOMEN'S ORGANIZATION WITH THAT. 
          BUT I THINK COUNCILS SHOULD MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, BUT THAT IS NOT COMMISSIONER YOUR SHAME. 
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SO THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE. 
          AND UM, I WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF INSEAD AND AGAIN, IT'S, TO ME, IT'S, IT'S A LOT ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION. 
          AND IF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF INSEAD COMMISSIONER OF AS IS SAID, IT REALLY WELL ABOUT HOW THIS CAN CONTINUE THE MISSION OF THE GROUP THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RECOGNIZE. 
          AND I WANNA, YOU KNOW, TH TH I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHEN I WAS IN LOS ANGELES AND I WAS A WALKING TOUR, AND THERE WAS A STORY THAT WAS LONG THESE BUILDINGS, AND IT WAS A, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ONE OF THE HIGH RISES AND IT WAS A PLACE THAT EVERYBODY STOPPED AND THEY'VE READ THE STORY ABOUT THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN BACKBONE PROPERTY. 
          AND IT WAS THAT EXACT SPOT THEY DIDN'T GO THROUGH AND THEY, AND PRESERVE THAT ONE BUILDING THERE, BUT THEY GAVE HOMINIDS WHAT THE SITE MEANT. 
          AND AS I WALKED ALONG IT, AND EVERY STEP OF THE WAY READING THE STORY UNFOLDING IN FRONT OF ME, AND TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, TH THE, THE FOOTSTEPS THAT I WAS WALKING THROUGH WAS A FOOTSTEP, IS WHAT THIS PERSON HAD WALKED ALONG WAY BACK THEN, AND LOOK AT WHERE IT'S BEEN AND WHAT IT'S CREATED, AND WHAT IS GIVEN BACK TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND THE REFLECTION OF ANYBODY WHO WALKS BY THAT WAS, WAS MORE IMPACTFUL THAN SAYING, JUST WALKING THROUGH A BUILDING. 
          I MEAN, IF DKG MOVES FROM THIS BUILDING, WHAT IS IT? IT'S JUST A VESSEL AT THAT POINT, BECAUSE DKG IS WHO THEY ARE, WHERE ARE WHERE THEY MOVED TO. 
          SO I FEEL THAT THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS PRESENTED COMING UP WASTE BRING HOW MUCH TO ALL THE WORK THAT DKG HAD DONE. 
          AND EVEN POTENTIALLY EVEN DKG EVEN STAYING THERE BECAUSE OF ALL THAT, THE MATERIALS OF THE BUILDING REFLECTED, AND EVEN IN, IN, IN REFLECTIONS OF THAT IN DESIGN, AND THAT GARDEN IS GOING TO BRING MUCH MORE HOMAGE TO THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE THAN JUST SAYING THIS ONE BUILDING THAT'S HERE. 
          AND AGAIN, IF IT TOOK WALKING THROUGH AND ACTUALLY SEEING, AND FEELING THAT IN DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES AND WALKING THROUGH THE STORY, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER SPEAKING FOR. 
          SO, UH, I HAVE TEACHERS, UH, IN MY IMMEDIATE FAMILY, I WORKED ALL MY CAREER IN NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. 
          I HAVE A VERY SOFT SPOT IN MY HEART FOR A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS FOR TEACHERS. 
          UM, AND I CAN APPRECIATE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR NONPROFITS TO RAISE MONEY, UM, TO GET A BIG INFLOW OF RESOURCES THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO PURSUE THEIR MISSION. 
          SO I'M VERY SENSITIVE AND SYMPATHETIC TO THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WERE THE, UM, THE NON-PROFITABLE WANTING TO MAXIMIZE THEIR ABILITY TO GET RESOURCES, TO PURSUE THEIR MISSION AT THE SAME TIME. 
          UH, IT IS ALSO IT'S ABOUT THE NONPROFIT, AND IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE BUILDING ITSELF. 
          I'VE HEARD THIS BUILDING REFER TO AS A MASTERPIECE, AND IF WE DO NOT GET A SUPER MAJORITY TONIGHT FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION, THAT'S IT. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ARCHITECTS ARE GOING TO MAKE SOME NODS TO WHAT THIS BUILDING USED TO BE, BUT THE BUILDING WILL BE GONE. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE RIGHT DECISION OR NOT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, RAISING THIS BUILDING TO BUILD SOMETHING ELSE THAT YES, HAS A NOD TO ITS HISTORY, UM, PROVIDES MORE, UM, WHAT APPEARS TO BE VERY NICE HOUSING IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT DECISION. 
          BUT I FEEL LIKE THIS ISN'T A DECISION THAT WE SHOULD MAKE. 
          IT'S A DECISION THAT COUNCIL SHOULD MAKE. 
          IT'S AN IMPORTANT ENOUGH BUILDING THAT WE SHOULDN'T FORECLOSE COUNSEL FROM AT LEAST REVIEWING THIS BEFORE THE BUILDING'S GONE. 
          I'VE GOT ONE MORE SPOT AGAINST MICHELLE ANDERSON. 
          SO WHERE YOU, AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION JUST SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO THINK MORE ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THIS PLACE. 
          YOU, THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY DIDN'T GET THERE, THEY DIDN'T GET TO A SUPER MAJORITY. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE ALL ON THE FENCE ABOUT THIS, IF IT WAS REALLY LIKE, WOW, IT REALLY IS GREAT, BUT THIS, AND IT'S JUST RIGHT THERE. 
          MAYBE I CAN UNDERSTAND, LIKE THE IDEA OF GIVING IT TO COUNCIL COUNCILS, BUSY TO GIVE COUNCIL SOMETHING THAT MAKES ABSOLUTELY ZERO SENSE TO ME RIGHT NOW. 
          AND MY GUESS IS IT MAKES ZERO SENSE TO A LOT OF US. 
          IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, LET COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, UTILIZE THEIR COMMISSIONS AND UTILIZE THEIR STAFF AND NOT BOG THEM DOWN WITH ANOTHER HOUR OR TWO HOUR DISCUSSION FOR SOMETHING THAT WON'T MAKE SENSE IN TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, EITHER. 
          AND ANOTHER BIG THING TO THINK ABOUT, 
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YOU KNOW, THIS BUILDING THAT'S LOOKING TO GET BUILT HERE MIGHT HAVE A TAX BASE OF ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT SPIT OFF THE TAXES OF $3 MILLION A YEAR, BUT IF WE DON'T BUILD IT, YOU KNOW, IS THE BUILDING THAT'S THERE TODAY WORTH $3 MILLION A YEAR TO PRESERVE? MAYBE IT IS. 
          I CERTAINLY CAN'T GET THERE, SO I'M READY TO VOTE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THAT'S ALL OF OUR SPOTS. 
          I'LL GO BACK AND RESTATE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. 
          THIS WAS, UH, MADE BY CHAIR SHAW, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SENIOR. 
          AND THIS IS TO A PROOF HISTORIC ZONING. 
          SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          LET ME SEE YOUR GREEN THREE, ALL THOSE AGAINST ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND DO I HAVE AN ABSTAINING? ALL RIGHT. 
          THREE EIGHT ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOW WE GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. 
          JARED. 
          I DON'T THINK WE DID. 
          I THINK HE DID ITEM SIX NOW. 
          I THINK THE ORIGINAL DIED. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY DIDN'T GET SUPER MAJORITY TO GET IN THE STORE. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO FOR ITEM SIX, CAUSE WE SPLIT IT. 
          UM, I MOVE THAT. 
          WE GO TO DMU WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. 
          OKAY. 
          DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. 
          IT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? I THINK THE AFRICAN DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF LAYING THIS OUT AS WELL, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ONE BLOCK OFF OF GUADALUPE. 
          WE'RE TALKING IN THE ORIGINAL 1839 WALTER PLAN. 
          LIKE THIS IS THE ORIGINAL PART OF DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. 
          AND IF WE CAN'T BUILD A TOWER WITH 300 SOME-ODD HOMES RIGHT HERE, I DON'T THINK WE CAN BUILD THIS ANYWHERE. 
          I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CEO. 
          AND SO I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE IT GO AWAY. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, THIS IS ALSO GOING TO HELP FUND, UM, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BY GOING THIS ROUTE. 
          LIKE THERE'S JUST A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VALUE IN INVESTING IN THIS. 
          AND THEN ALSO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING TO REWRITE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT CODE COUNCIL WAS PRETTY CLEAR, LIKE LET'S MAXIMIZE JOBS AND HOMES DOWNTOWN, AND THIS HELPS GET US THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST THE MOTION IS DMU WITH NO CEO, NO HEIGHT LIMIT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANYBODY SPEAKING FOR ONE MORE TIME AGAINST HER NEUTRAL? GOTCHA. 
          I WAS SPEAKING FOR, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, MY GOAL WAS TO TRY TO COMBINATE BOTH THE HISTORIC AND THE HEIGHT. 
          I THINK IT IS THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THIS KIND OF BUILDING. 
          I DID HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CAPITOL VIEW CORRIDOR, BUT THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED TO A SEPARATE PROCESS. 
          UH, BUT NO, THIS IS, UH, UH, THE RIGHT PLACE FOR, UH, THESE KINDS OF STRUCTURES. 
          ANYWAY. 
          THANKS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY MORE COMMISSIONERS AGAINST OR NEUTRAL? I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK NEUTRAL. 
          I MEAN, I, I, I KNOW THAT WE NEED HIGH. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, SO I SUPPORT THE DMU, BUT I, I'M NOT QUITE SURE I'M, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE HEIGHT. 
          SO I MIGHT, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO BE NEUTRAL ON IT, BUT I DO SUPPORT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS FOR AGAINST OR NEUTRAL? ALRIGHT. 
          UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. 
          SO THE MOTION IS TO, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DMU ZONING, NO CEO, UM, THAT WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER ANDERSON SECOND AND BY MYSELF, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, YOU'RE GREEN TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THOSE AGAINST, SORRY, COMMISSIONER OR CHAIR? SHOWER. 
          YOU GREEN 11. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANY AGAINST AND THEN ABSTAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO 1101. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, WE ARE ABOUT TO HIT OUR, UH, 10:00 PM TIME. 
          ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING SO WE CAN HEAR TWO MORE CASES. 
          COMMISSIONERS ARE TWO. 
          WHAT TIME? I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND TO 10 45. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE SECOND WAS COMMISSIONING ON AS GALENA. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UH, DOES ANYBODY NEED A BREAK OR DO YOU WANT TO KEEP GOING, 
          [03:45:02]
KEEP GOING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, MOVING ON, WE ARE GOING ON TO, UM, BE 11 AND OH, TO, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I'LL GET IT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AGAINST. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD UNANIMOUS. 
          NOW 
          [Items B11. & B12. ]
WE CAN MOVE ON. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          B 11 AND B12. 
          THIS IS THE THOMAS SPRINGS OFFICE WAREHOUSE. 
          UM, WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF, UH, AS MISS MEREDITH, MS. CLARK ON THE PHONE. 
          YES. 
          THIS IS MAUREEN MEREDITH, THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT ITEM NUMBER B 11 IS NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO TWO 5.01. 
          THOMAS SPRINGS OFFICE WAREHOUSE. 
          THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT SEVEN EIGHT ONE FIVE THOMAS SPRINGS ROAD WITHIN THE OAK HILL COMBINED NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREA. 
          THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY LAND USE AS AMENDED. 
          IT IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. 
          WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FROM THE OAK HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CONTACT TEAM, AND IT LAYS OUT CONDITIONS. 
          HELLO, THIS IS KATE CLARK WITH THE HOUSING AND PLAN PARTNER AND I'M PRESENTING ITEM B 12 ON THE AGENDA. 
          THIS IS CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE ZERO TWO. 
          THOMAS SPRINGS OFFICE WAREHOUSE. 
          THIS PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 6.49 ACRES AND HAS ACCESS TO BOTH THOMAS SPRINGS ROAD AND WE'RE LOOP ROAD IS CURRENTLY ZONED R R M P. 
          AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY PROPERTIES, DOWNED, R R N P TO THE NORTHEAST EAST AND SOUTH ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHWEST IS A PROPERTY ZONES, L O N P AND ACROSS THOMAS SPRINGS TO THE NORTH OR PROPERTIES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. 
          AND THEREFORE NOT ZONED. 
          THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE WILLIAMSON CREEK WATERSHED AND IT'S SUBJECT TO THE SOS ORDINANCE, WHICH IN THIS AREA WOULD REDUCE THE ALLOWABLE IMPERVIOUS COVER TO A MAXIMUM OF 25% AFTER DISCUSSING THE PROPOSED ZONING WITH DEATH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE APPLICANT AMENDED THE REZONING REQUESTS AND BROKE THE PROPERTY INTO TWO TRACKS. 
          THEY ARE NOW REQUESTING THAT TRACKS ONE, BE REZONED TO W L O N P AND TRACK TO BE REZONED TO SF THREE MP STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE APPLICANTS REZONING REQUEST AS AMENDED TRACKED. 
          ONE IS LOCATED A LONG TIME. 
          IT'S BEEN THROWED BETWEEN TWO PROPERTIES, ZONED L O N P AND R R N T BECAUSE DW ZONING DISTRICT ONLY ALLOWS BUILDINGS TO BE 25 FEET IN HEIGHT OR ONE STORY TALL. 
          AND WITH THE ADDITIONAL SOS ORDINANCE LIMITATION ON IMPERVIOUS COVER REZONING, THIS TRACK TO W L O M P WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES AND PROVIDE A TRANSITION SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES CHECK U IS LOCATED ALONG WEIRD LOOP ROAD, AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY PROPERTY ZONED R R N P RARELY BROKE ENDS WITH A CUL-DE-SAC AND CONTAINS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL USES WITH A MAXIMUM OF 25% LIMITATION ON PREVIOUS COVER REZONING. 
          THIS PROPERTY TO SF THREE AND P WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING LAND USES IN THIS AREA. 
          THERE IS A VALID PETITION OPPOSING, THE REQUESTED REZONING, AND IS CURRENTLY AT 49.39%. 
          THE NEIGHBORHOODS REASONS FOR THE OPPOSITION WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF BACKUP. 
          THIS CONCLUDES MY CASE. 
          SOMETHING RANDOM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UH, ALICE GLASGOW ON THE PHONE. 
          YES. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSION MEMBERS. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN, YES. 
          I DON'T SEE A PRESENTATION UP YET. 
          YEAH, THEY COULD LOAD UP MY PRESENTATION. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          I'M ALEX GLASGOW REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, BUT THEM TO BE 11 AND B12. 
          AND AS THE PRESENTATION, BEAR WITH US JUST A FEW MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          [03:50:07]
HEY, MS. LASKO, IT'S COMING UP. 
          WE CAN SEE THE FIRST SIGN. 
          OKAY, WELL DISAPPEARED AGAIN. 
          WE CAN SEE IT'S AN AERIAL WITH TRACK ONE AND TRACK TWO HIGHLIGHTED. 
          CORRECT. 
          WELL, THIS AREA SHOWS THE TWO TRACKS THAT STAFF JUST IDENTIFIED THAT WHEN WE AMENDED THE REQUEST TO STICK THE PROPERTIES INTO TWO TRACKS, SO THAT YOU HAVE KEPT ONE, UH, WHERE WE'RE SEEKING WLO, WHICH STANDS FOR A WAREHOUSE LIMITED OFFICE AND TRACKED TWO TO SF S3, AND A STAFF INDICATED IT, THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF OF WLO AND TRACK TWAN AND SF THREE ON TRACK TO HOW CONSISTENT WITH A LAND USE, UH, PATTERN ALONG. 
          WE HAVE A PRO-D AND THE LAND USE PATTERN, UH, SURROUNDING THE, UM, THE PROPERTIES ON THOMAS SPRINGS ROAD AND, UH, CIRCLE DRIVE. 
          UM, MORE IMPORTANTLY THAT ON TRACT ONE, THE, UM, THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES TO THE, UH, TO THE WEST IS ZONED LNP. 
          UH, YOU HAVE, UM, UH, WLO ZONING, UH, ALONG CIRCLE DRIVE. 
          THERE'S LR MP AT THE INTERSECTION OF THOMAS SPRINGS AND, UM, TRIPLE DRIVE. 
          SO, UH, THE, UM, REQUESTED ZONING, UH, HERE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT ZONING IN THE VICINITY OF A SUBJECT TRUCK. 
          THIS AREA IS IMPORTANT IN THAT IT SHOWS THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING IN THE AREA. 
          MORE IMPORTANTLY ON TRUCK, TWO WAS TASKS IS RECOMMENDING S3, AND WE ARE REQUESTING AS A THREE. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ADJOINING PROPERTY TO THE, UM, UM, EAST OF US ARE JOINING, TALKED TO HAS, UM, TWO RESIDENTS, TWO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES. 
          AND, UH, THEN MOST OF THE PROPERTIES ALONG WHEEL APPROACH HAVE, UM, TWO OR MORE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, AT LEAST MOST OF THEM DO. 
          AND, UH, THOSE PROPERTIES WITH TWO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES USES WOULD REQUIRE SF THREE ZONING. 
          HENCE OUR REQUEST FOR SF THREE, THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE THREE OR MORE UNITS WOULD REQUIRE MF MULTI-FAMILY ZONING. 
          SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO THIS SLIDE ALSO AND FOOTPRINT, SO YOU CAN MORE CLEARLY SEE THE FOOTPRINT ON THAT. 
          JOINING TRUCK TRACKS ONE, IT HAS A RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO THE EAST OF US. 
          THAT TRACK IS USED AS A BUSINESS IT'S FOR A CONCRETE AND SLAPPED COMPANY, BUT DOES NOT HAVE PROPER ZONING. 
          IT WOULD REQUIRE COMMERCIAL ZONING BEAR. 
          UH, THE, THE TRACKS THAT ARE ON REAR LOOP ROAD, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE LAWS THAT HAVE TO ALMOST STRUCTURES STRUCTURES AS IN RESIDENTIAL HOMES THAT WOULD REQUIRE A DIFFERENT ZONING. 
          UM, I'M SURE THE OTHER LITTLE STRUCTURES ARE PROBABLY A STORAGE UNIT, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHICH OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE RESIDENTIAL USES THAT WOULD REQUIRE AS THE THREE ZONING CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEKING ON TRACK. 
          TWO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE FLIGHT IS COMING UP, THE FINAL COMMISSION. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY NEVER SEEN L ZONING. 
          IT'S THE MOST RESTRICTIVE ZONING DISTRICT, UM, ON YOUR ZONING TRACK, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S COMPARABLE TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING UNDER RR, YOU COULD SEE THAT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 35 FEET UNDER WLO. 
          YOUR MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS ONE STORY OR TWENTY-FIVE FEET. 
          UM, UNDER, UM, THE ZONING BEEN PURCHASED COVER. 
          I USE 70%, BUT AS TAPP INDICATED, THAT IS TRUMPED BY THE SAVE OUR SPRINGS ORDINANCE AND PRIVATE COVER IS LIMITED 25% OF THE TIME, 5% OF THE SITE, YOUR FLORIDA ELLA RATIO, LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TRUCK 0.2, 5% THE SAME, UH, FLORIDA AREA RATIO, UM, AS ACTUALLY AT LEAST IN FAI UNDER YOUR COMMERCIAL TRUCK. 
          SO FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT, IT'S THE MOST RESTRICTIVE ZONING DISTRICT. 
          IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING. 
          AND, UM, UH, FOR THAT REASON, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE HERE. 
          AND I'LL SHOW YOU ON THE, ON THE NEXT SITE PLAN, WHAT THAT MEANS AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR A SITE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          [03:55:14]
THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL PIPELINE ALL FROM THE TWO TRACK. 
          SO TRACT ONE SHOWS AN OFFICE SPACE AND A WHITE HOUSE TO THE BACK AND PARKING IN THE FRONT. 
          SO THIS TRUCK IS APPROXIMATELY 4.7 ACRES CLOSE TO FIVE ACRES. 
          SO THIS REPRESENTATION EQUATES TO EXACTLY 25% IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          THE OPEN SPACE IS 75% OF THE SITE THAT IT'S ALL OPEN BECAUSE OF THE SOS ORDINANCE LIMITING TO FIVE TO 25% IMPERVIOUS COVER. 
          IF WE WERE TO ADD ANY MORE EXTENSION OF OUR DRIVEWAY, OBVIOUSLY THAT EATS UP THE IMPERVIOUS COVER MEANS YOU CANNOT REPEAT, UH, UH, EXTEND OR ADD ANY MORE PARKING UNLESS YOU REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, UH, AS, UM, IS SHOWN HERE. 
          SO THE PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, EVEN THOUGH THE ADJOINING PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS, UH, IS USED AS A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, BUT DON'T LITTLE RESIDENTIAL. 
          WE ALL SUBJECT TO COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. 
          OUR BUILDING ON THE EAST SIDE, HE SAID BACK 83 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, BE A SETBACK ON THE REAR SIDE OF PAST ONE. 
          WE ARE AT 110 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WAS SUBJECT TO COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, WHICH REQUIRES SCREENING, UM, IN COMPLIANCE WITH SUB CHAPTER COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. 
          TRY, UH, ONE SHOT, TWO SALARY IS BEING PUT INTO THREE LOTS. 
          IT'LL HAVE, UM, UNDER SF THREE, THREE LOSS THAT CAN ALLOW TWO UNITS. 
          EACH LOT IS OVER 25,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LOT OF GREEN BECAUSE ABOUT 88% OF THOSE LOST EACH OF THEM, IT WILL BE OPEN SPACE DUE TO SOS COMPLIANCE. 
          I WILL PAUSE HERE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE MAY COME BACK TO YOU. 
          UM, IS BRANDON BRYSON ON THE PHONE? I CAN HEAR YOU GO AHEAD. 
          BRANDON BRYSON REPRESENTATIVE ALEX CLASSICO, AND I APPROVE OF A STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, NEXT WE'LL HEAR FROM, UH, THOSE OPPOSED. 
          THIS IS PETER LIANO. 
          HI. 
          UH, WE CAN HEAR YOU GO AHEAD. 
          GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANKS FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          UH, I'VE GOT A LITTLE PREPARED THING I'M GOING TO READ, BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU FIRST OFF, UM, THAT PRESENTATION FROM ALICE WAS REALLY VERY MISLEADING. 
          FIRST SAW THAT BUILDING, THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING BUILDING IT IS ABSOLUTELY INCONSISTENT WITH THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND IT. 
          THERE WAS NOTHING LIKE THAT. 
          EXPECT ONE BUILDING OVER ON CIRCLE DRIVE, NOT IN OUR COMMUNITY, NOT UP AND DOWNTIME AND SPRINGS ROAD. 
          SO IT IS NOT CONSISTENT. 
          AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. 
          THE SECOND THING IS MOST OF THE PROPERTIES ON WEIRDER LOOP ROAD DO NOT HAVE TWO STRUCTURES AND NONE HAVE THREE. 
          THERE ARE BARN, WELL, THIS IS AN OLD COMMUNITY IT'S RURAL AND MANY PLACES THAT DID HAVE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE ON IT. 
          UH, HAVE BEEN ABANDONED. 
          THERE'S AN OLD ABANDONED HOUSE. 
          THERE'S A, THERE'S THE OLD ABANDONED SHED THAT MAYBE AT SOME POINT IN TIME, BACK IN THE PAST, SOMEONE DID LIVE IN, BUT THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR DOES HAVE A MOTHER-IN-LAW HOME ON IT. 
          AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT MOTHER-IN-LAW STRUCTURES ARE ALLOWED IN R R N E. 
          SO THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS A MOTHER-IN-LAW THAT I KNOW OF. 
          AND I KNOW EVERYBODY ON THAT STREET VERY WELL. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT PRESENTATION WAS REALLY MISLEADING. 
          UM, SO NOW I'M GOING TO JUST TELL YOU THAT, UM, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO FAMILIARIZE YOU WITH THE WEIRD LOOP COMMUNITY. 
          THAT'S REALLY EFFECTED BY THIS. 
          OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ON THE VERY EDGE OF AUSTIN. 
          AND IN FACT, THE CITY ENDS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE. 
          WE WERE ANNEXED IN 1985, BUT AT OUR FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD ZOOM MEETING THAT WE HAD IN DECEMBER, SOME FOLKS WERE SURPRISED TO EVEN 
          [04:00:01]
HEAR THAT THEY WERE IN THE CITY. 
          THEY ALL THOUGHT THEY WERE JUST IN THE ETJ. 
          ONE, ONE FELLAS PROPERTY IS ONE COUPLES PROPERTY, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE IS IN THE CITY. 
          AND, AND I HAD TO REALLY CONVINCE FOLKS OF THAT AND MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND. 
          SO, YEAH, WE'RE AFFECTED BY THIS. 
          ANOTHER THING IS THAT OUR STREET IS A DEAD END STREET. 
          IT'S BARELY HALF A MILE LONG, AND MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS MADE UP OF SENIOR CITIZENS. 
          AND MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE LIVED HERE FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS. 
          MRS. GROSSMAN HAS LIVED HERE FOR 43 YEARS. 
          UM, I KNOW THERE'S SEVERAL FAMILIES THAT HAVE LIVED, LIVED HERE, YOU KNOW, IN THE UPPER TWENTIES, UH, UH, FOR 20 YEARS, UM, WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. 
          UH, OUR HOUSES ARE ON LOTS AND WE ALL HAVE A GROUP SOME MORE THAN OTHERS. 
          UH, WE WALK OUR DOGS IN THE STREET, WE SEE OUR NEIGHBORS AND WE MEET IN THE STREET. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF SOUNDS OLD FASHIONED, BUT THAT'S JUST WHAT IT IS. 
          IT'S A NARROW PAVED ROAD THAT DEAD END A BUNCH OF OLD FOLKS ON IT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE MADE OUR POSITION REALLY CLEAR TO ALISON BRANDON, UM, THAT WHAT THEY'RE ADVOCATING IS NOT THE BEST INTEREST OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ONE OF THE UP-AND-COMING CITY NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST A RURAL COMMUNITY. 
          AND WE, WE REALLY DON'T WANT, I MEAN, REALLY IN THE CITY DOESN'T NEED TO HAVE THIS KIND OF, UH, WHICH THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN THEIR PROPOSAL, BY THE WAY, THEY WANT TO PUT IT IN THREE HOUSES. 
          I MEAN, WITH REALLY NARROW LOTS. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S FOR DOWNTOWN AUSTIN, COME ON. 
          I MEAN, IT'S GONNA AFFECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES FOR SURE. 
          UH, WHEN SOMEBODY SELLS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THREE AND A HALF, BUT MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE FOUR OR FIVE, THREE ACRES, UM, THAT JUST ISN'T CONSISTENT AND IT, IT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED. 
          THE OTHER THING I WANT TO DO IS ADDRESS THE, THE TRACK ON THOMAS SPRINGS ROAD. 
          THE TRAFFIC ON THOMAS SPRINGS ROAD HAS INCREASED DRAMATICALLY IN THE PAST FEW YEARS AND PROBABLY MANY OF YOU KNOW, THIS ROAD, UH, IT'S A BIG CUT-THROUGH ROAD. 
          AND, UM, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF MORE CARS THAT GO UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD EVERY DAY, AND THEY'RE GOING FASTER. 
          I LIVE RIGHT ON THOMAS SPRINGS, VERY AWARE OF IT. 
          I HAVE TO PULL THAT DOWN TO THAT CREEK AS DO A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS UP AND DOWN, UH, PULL UP THERE. 
          AND IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CHALLENGE. 
          UM, THE COUNTY FORTUNATELY HAS RESTRICTED TRUCK TRAFFIC. 
          UM, THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SIGNS UP, BUT YOU KNOW, QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S, IT'S VERY RARELY ENFORCED BY THE COUNTY. 
          AND OUR GREATEST CONCERN ON THAT THOMAS SPRINGS PARCEL IS THAT WE HAVE NO GUARANTEE FROM THE DEVELOPER THAT HE WILL FILL THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT DON'T RECEIVE THEIR GOODS VIA 18 WHEEL TRUCK. 
          THE BILLING EXAMPLE THAT WE WERE GIVEN, UH, HE WAS TRYING TO SHOW US THE TYPE OF BUILDING HE WANTED TO BUILD. 
          WAS IT ATTRACTIVE BUILDING ON OBK ROAD, BUT IT DID HAVE A SIDE ENTRY DOCK, HOT PLATFORM FOR 18 WHEEL TRUCKS. 
          NOW I SEE FOR THE FIRST TIME THE DRAWING, HE HAS NOT ONLY ONE, BUT TWO DOCK DOORS AND SHOWING 18 WHEEL TRAILERS THERE. 
          I MEAN, COME ON, WE DON'T NEED THOSE ON OUR STREET. 
          OUR STREET IS NARROW. 
          THEY ARE NO, PARDON ME? SEVEN, SAY SOMETHING. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, BUT WE JUST, WE JUST DON'T, WE DON'T NEED THAT KIND OF TRUCK TRAFFIC ON OUR STREET. 
          UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH, WITH OUR ENVIRONMENT AND WHO WE ARE, SO WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S GOING TO BE A COMMERCIAL GROWTH. 
          WE DID. 
          WE DID SAY THAT WE WERE TRYING TO BE, UM, AMENABLE IN THAT AREA, BUT WE REALLY ASK THAT THE APPROVAL PROVIDES A PROVISION FOR HEADBUTTING 18 WHEEL TRUCKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I'LL MUTE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. GLASGOW, DO YOU HAVE A REBUTTAL? YES. 
          COMMISSION MEMBERS? I DO. 
          I WOULD, UH, ENCOURAGE, UH, THE COMMISSION MEMBERS TO, UH, TO LOOK UP, PULL UP YOUR GOOGLE MAP AND ENTER 78, 15 THOMAS SPRINGS ROAD AND CLICK ON THE SATELLITE IMAGES. 
          AND SEE IF YOU ZOOM OUT FOR EACH OF THOSE PROPERTIES ALONG THOMAS SPRINGS ROAD, AT LEAST YOUR GOOGLE MAP IS GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE LAND USES THAT ARE BEEN CAPTURED BY GOOGLE OVER TIME FROM YOUR SATELLITE IMAGES. 
          AND ALSO THE, UH, THE, UM, THE PRESENTATION. 
          IF WE CAN GO BACK TO SLIDE NUMBER TWO, THAT WILL HELP ME 
          [04:05:01]
STICK TO THIS WHILE THE SLIDE IS BEING PULLED UP REGARDING TRUCKS. 
          THE, UM, UH, THE IS A SIGN THAT IS POSTED AT, ON THOMAS SPRINGS ROAD THAT PROHIBITS TRUCKS, UH, ACCORDING TO THE TRAVIS COUNTY TRANSPORTATION STAFF, THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE, UH, HAS A DEFINITION FOR WHAT SIZE TRUCKS ARE ALLOWED ON, ON THOMAS SPRINGS ROAD. 
          IT MEANS ANY TRUCK THAT HAS SIX OR MORE WHEELS IS NOT ALLOWED. 
          SO THAT ENFORCEMENT IS ALREADY THERE UNDER, UH, THE TRAVIS COUNTY, UH, REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND THE TRACKS OF TRANSPORTATION CODE IS, HAS A DEFINITION FOR WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          SO THERE'S NO REASON FOR THE CITY TO IMPOSE SUCH A CONDITION. 
          THEY HAVE LAW ALREADY HAS THAT, UH, REGARDING, UM, UH, PROHIBITING ACCESS BETWEEN TRACKS ONE AND TWO, BASED ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD LETTER BY ZONING, THE TRACKS SF, UH, THREE AND WLO WOULD, UM, THE CITY CODE DOES NOT ALLOW ACCESS BETWEEN OUR COMMERCIAL TRACT AND THE RESIDENTIAL TRACT. 
          AND, UM, UM, I WOULD JUST STATE TO, UM, MR. VICTORIANO THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY NEXT TO CLASS TWO HAS TWO RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE AND, UH, THE, THE BIG STRUCTURE IN THE BACK, UM, UH, UH, RECEIVED A CODE VIOLATION COMPLAINT BY A TENANT. 
          AND THAT'S HOW I FOUND ABOUT IT, UM, FROM, UM, FROM, FROM CHECKING THAT UP ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND THE TENANT HAD COMPLAINED THAT THE PROPERTY WAS CONVERTED TO A RESIDENTIAL USE WITHOUT PROPER PERMITS, AND THEREFORE THEY WERE REQUIRED TO RETROACTIVELY GET PERMITS. 
          SO HAVING TWO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES ON GOOGLE, RESIDENTIAL ZONING, UH, REQUIRES A SF THREE ZONING BECAUSE, UH, ARE, ARE ONLY ALLOWS ONE HOUSE PROLOGUE REGARDLESS OF THE ACREAGE ON YOUR PROPERTY. 
          SO, UM, UNLESS THE CITY'S BUILDING FOOTPRINT MAPS ARE WRONG AND YOUR SATELLITE MAPS ARE WRONG. 
          UM, UM, THE FOOTPRINTS YOU SEE, UH, ON THE LOSS ALONG REAL BLUE PRO YOU CAN SEE WHAT STRUCTURE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR GOOGLE MAP, WHAT IS A HOUSE AND WHAT IS, UH, A SHED, UH, AND WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          SO I STAYED THAT UP BACK TO TREATING THE PROPERTIES UNDER YOUR PLANNING PRINCIPLES. 
          YOU LOOK AT WHAT UP, HOW YOU'RE TREATING EVERY PROPERTY, AND YOU NEED TO SPEAK ALL PROPERTIES THE SAME, AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE OTHER ZONING IN THE AREA. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CONDITIONS THE WLO TRACKED ON, UM, THAT IS SHOWN ON THE MAP ON CIRCLE DRIVE DOES NOT HAVE A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OTHER THAN ONE THAT PROHIBITS THEM, USES THE OTHER TRACKS SIMILARLY, AND I URGE YOU TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? ALRIGHT, SO COMMISSIONER SENIOR COMMISSURE AZAR IS A SECOND. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          QUESTIONS. 
          YOU HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. 
          IF NO QUESTIONS, CAN I GET A MOTION? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. 
          CAN I JUST GET A QUESTION TO STAFF ABOUT THE TRUCKS? CAN THEY CONFIRM WHAT MS.  SAID ABOUT THE, WHERE THE TRUCKS ARE ALLOWED? UM, THIS IS CAKE ART WITH TASMAN PLANNING. 
          I DO NOT KNOW WHAT SIZE TRUCKS ARE ALLOWED ON THE STREET AT THIS TIME. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION LETTER THAT THEY WROTE, THEY HAD REQUESTED THE LIMIT DECIDES, AND I KNOW WE CANNOT DO THAT IN A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. SHEA? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, UM, FOR SCOTT, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUTURE OF THE AREA PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST TODAY, BUT WHAT'S TOMORROW, WHAT'S TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. 
          UM, SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE ON THE STREET, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE, THEY DON'T COMPLY. 
          LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S A CONCRETE COMPANY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          I MEAN, LIKE WHAT ZONING WOULD THAT BE? I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF COULD, YOU KNOW, OR MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN CHIME IN OF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE, AND I DON'T GET IT BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN IT GOT ANNEXED, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ZONED TO WHAT THE USE WAS, YOU KNOW? AND THAT EVEN INCLUDES, UM, I GUESS WE'RE 
          [04:10:01]
LOOP BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S LIKE SOME AUTOMOTIVE PLACE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO I'M JUST WONDERING, LIKE, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT W WHAT HAPPENED? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE THE PERSON DIDN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS TRY TO GET A ZONING THAT WORKED WITH THEM, BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE ZONING AROUND IT TO REFLECT THE USE IF, UM, IF THEY WOULD HAVE SPOKEN UP, I GUESS THIS IS KATE. 
          UM, I HONESTLY, I'M NOT SURE WHICH USE CONCRETE WOULD FALL UNDER. 
          UM, I'M LOOKING INTO THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS AREA IS OUT OF A PATCHWORK OF LAND WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS. 
          AND SOME THINGS WERE ANNEX AND DNX, AND THEN ANNEX AGAIN. 
          UM, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE SPECIFICS ON EACH PROPERTY AND WHAT WAS APPROVED ON THE SITE PLAN TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE, IF THEY WERE VISITING NON-CONFORMING USES OR, OR NOT. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW, THE, THE, UM, THE HISTORY OF THAT, UM, I CAN TELL YOU NOW THAT THE CONCRETE USE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTION, SALES AND SERVICES, AND WOULD REQUIRE COMMERCIAL ZONING CS. 
          UM, FOR THAT, THERE ARE LOTS OF NONCONFORMING USES OUT HERE. 
          I JUST DON'T KNOW WITHOUT DOING FURTHER, FURTHER RESEARCH ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING OR IF THEY'RE ILLEGAL AT THIS POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANKS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MR. SINGER? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION KEEPS ON GOING BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I HAVE A COMMENT BECAUSE I SAW THE STRUCTURES THAT ON WHERE LOOP ROAD ON THE, I GUESS THAT'S, LET'S SAY THE SOUTH SIDE ON THE MAPS THAT WE WERE PROVIDED. 
          SO I, I TOOK A DRIVE DOWN IT VIA GOOGLE MAPS, JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON UP THERE. 
          AND IT'S A TRULY, UM, WORLD NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND IT'S OBVIOUS THAT, UM, THERE IS INFINITE INHERENCE TO ZONING PRACTICES OUT THERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE USE IS GRANDFATHERED IN OR NOT, BUT I DID LOOK AT SOME OF THE PROPERTIES AND THEY DO HAVE MULTIPLE STRUCTURES. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE REALLY SF THREE PROPERTIES OR NOT. 
          WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING, THOUGH, IS COMPATIBILITY AND THE USE OF PROPERTY. 
          I THINK THAT, UM, THE DOWNGRADE FROM THE MULTI-FAMILY, THAT WAS, IT SEEMED PRETTY, UH, GRACIOUS TO THE SF THREE SEEMS TO BE A VERY GOOD COMPROMISE BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE LOTS AND THE SOS ORDINANCE, YOU CAN GET DUPLEX PROPERTIES ON THEM. 
          SO ON THE THREE LOTS, YOU CAN GET, UH, SIX DWELLING UNITS, WHICH I KNOW RIGHT NOW, THE NEED FOR HOUSING IS NOT GREAT IN THAT AREA. 
          HOWEVER, IT WILL BE SOMEDAY. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED AS COMMISSIONER, UH, EXCUSE ME. 
          JAY SAID, WE NEED TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE. 
          AND THAT PROPERTY ACROSS IS GOING TO BE AN X SOMEDAY. 
          SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS THE BEST USE OF A PROPERTY AND THE PUPILS SUBDIVIDE IT INTO THREE PARCELS ARE ON WHERE LOOP ROAD. 
          IT SEEMS THAT THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AND PERHAPS SET SOME PRECEDENT FOR GETTING MORE DWELLING UNITS OUT IN THAT AREA. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORTH THE MOTION TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND THE CUSTOMER'S REQUEST OF, UH, W L O AND SF THREE ON THE TRACK. 
          TWO LOTS PUBLIC CLEARING. 
          OH, YES. 
          LET'S CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          GREAT. 
          GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S SO DIFFICULT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IS THERE A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER SEEGER'S, UM, MOTION, WHICH IS TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR, UH, WLR ZONING ON TRACK ONE AND SFP ZONING ON TRACK COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, COMMISSIONER SENIOR, YOU KIND OF ALREADY SPOKE TO IT. 
          DID YOU WANT TO SAY MORE 
          [04:15:02]
THAT C I THINK THAT, UH, THIS IS THE TRANSITION AREA. 
          IT WILL, IT WILL BE FULLY ANNEX SOMEDAY, AND PERHAPS WE CAN GET APPROPRIATE ZONING WITH THE NEWEST ANNEXATION. 
          AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT WANT TO COME FORWARD AND REZONE. 
          THERE ARE PROPERTIES, HOWEVER IT COULD HAPPEN. 
          AND I THINK IT'S TIME FOR SF THREE ON THIS ROADWAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST OR NEUTRAL SPEAKING? OH, NO CHAIRS. 
          SO, UH, JUST LOOKING AT THE OVERALL STONY MATH OF WHAT'S THERE, YOU KNOW, PULLING BACK, UH, I LOOKED ON GOOGLE MAPS. 
          THERE ARE USES, ESPECIALLY ON THE NON CITY PROPERTY, BUT IF YOU JUST PULL BACK AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S ZONED OUT THERE. 
          NOW THIS IS REALLY DESK. 
          THIS IS WHERE OUR, OUR ZONING IS SUPPOSED TO BE, AND THIS IS WHAT IT HAS MEANT FOR. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, CIRCLE DRIVE IS STARTING TO GET SOME OF THESE COMMERCIAL ZONES. 
          BUT I THINK AS WE GET OFF THIS, UH, UH, THE THOMAS, UH, ROAD HERE, I MEAN, IT SHOULD REALLY KICK THAT FOR THE RS ZONING. 
          SO I THINK, UH, THERE ARE APPROPRIATE PLACES ON CERTAIN ROADS, UH, FOR THIS TYPE OF A ZONING. 
          BUT I THINK WE SAID, ONCE WE MOVE INTO THE INTERIOR HERE, KEEP IT, UH, RESIDENTIAL, ANYBODY SPEAKING FOR MY SHARES ARE I WANT TO SPEAK NEUTRAL ON ONE POINT THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, BASHING ME WITH CHERISH AND SAYING, RIGHT, THIS IS AN AM. 
          WHERE WERE RESIDENTIAL MAKES SENSE? WHEN WE HAVE A DOCK ABOUT WHERE DO WE PUT OUR HOUSING? WHERE DO WE PUT MORE DENSE HOUSING? THIS IS PERHAPS NOT THE RIGHT SPOT FOR IT. 
          AND I HAVE TO SAY, IT'S A BIT OF A SHAME THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PUTTING SUCH HOUSING OR SUCH, YOU KNOW, SOURCES AND DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NEEDED, INCLUDING OFFICE AND WHERE I WAS IN THE BROWNFIELD IN THE CORE OF THE CITY. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE WITHOUT THE LAND OF OPEN CODE TELLING US WHAT IS AN APPROPRIATE USE AND RESERVES AND MAKING THESE DECISIONS ON THE SPOT WHERE WE SHOULD NOT BE MAKING THESE DECISIONS. 
          AND INSTEAD OF STARTING IDENTIFYING AREAS BASED ON SORT OF PROXIMITY TO THE BOARD AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE SHOULD BE ADDING DIFFERENT KINDS OF DEVELOPMENT AND MORE DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL IN THE GREENFIELD. 
          AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS HONESTLY A GOOD PLANNING METHODOLOGY THAT WE'RE ADOPTING HERE, BUT I CAN ALSO SEE SORT OF TEXTURE THAT MOVEMENT IS IN WHEN WE SEEM TO GO OUT TO AREAS LIKE THIS. 
          SO I'M JUST STATING A NEUTRAL POINT ON THIS AND SAYING, I WISH THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO WORK ON A LAND OF OPEN CODE REVISION AND DO PROPER PLANNING AS SHOULD BE REQUIRED OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, RATHER THAN WORKING ON SOME OF THESE AD HOC DECISIONS. 
          ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST FOR I'LL SPEAK FOR THE MOTION. 
          UM, I LIVE NOT TOO FAR FROM THIS AREA, BUT I AM IN DISTRICT EIGHT AND I'LL ADMIT I'VE TAKEN THOMAS SPRINGS AS A CUT-THROUGH AND IT'S A BUSY ROAD. 
          UM, IT'S NOT COUNTRY BACK ROAD, QUIET. 
          UM, AND MULTIPLE TIMES OF THE DAY THAT I'VE GONE DOWN THIS, UM, AND IT'S SLATED TO BE WIDENED. 
          SO THIS IS A GROWING AREA. 
          I KNOW FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SEEMS LIKE WAY OUT THERE, BUT IT IS GROWING. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING OUT HERE. 
          AND I THINK THE COMPROMISE THAT THE APPLICANT AND THE CITY YOU HAVE COME TO AS TO HOW THE LAND IS DIVIDED, MAKES SENSE WITH WHAT'S OUT THERE. 
          IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT A ZONING MAP AND THE COLORS, ALL KIND OF WHAT RURAL OR, OR SINGLE FAMILY, UM, YOU DRIVE DOWN THERE. 
          THAT'S NOT HOW THE, THAT LANDS BEING USED LIKE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS EMPTY LOT IS, UM, CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, LANDSCAPING COMPANY. 
          SO I, I THINK THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE APPLAUDED FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF ZONING. 
          IT LIKE KIDS, SHOULDN'T BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE REST OF AUSTIN, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE THAT THEY'VE COME TO. 
          SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THEM. 
          UM, ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST NEUTRAL OR ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. 
          SO THE MOTION AGAIN IS TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF TRACK ONE W ELLA ZONING TRACK TWO SF, THREE ZONING, UM, THAT WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER SENIOR AND SECOND, AND BY ANDERSON ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          [04:20:02]
ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, LOOKS LIKE 11, THOSE AGAINST ONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          11 ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE ARE TO OUR LAST DISCUSSION CASE COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDREW BEAR AND CONSENT MOTION FOR NPA. 
          OH. 
          TO APPROVE THE NPA FOR THIS CASE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO COMMISSIONER SEEKER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          HELLO. 
          AND THEN 12, 12 ZERO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          [B13. Downtown Density Bonus: SPC-2020-0121C - 9092 Rainey; District 9 ]
UM, MOVING ON TO THE 13, THIS IS THE DOWNTIME DENSITY BONUS ON 1992 GRAINY. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE AARON JENKINS ON THE PHONE? HEY, YOU THERE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          NOW I CAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. 
          THIS IS AARON JENKINS WITH THE HOUSING PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THE URBAN DONE DESIGN DIVISION. 
          I AM HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU. 
          ITEM 13, B FOUR, CASE NUMBER S P C 2020 DASH ZERO ONE TWO ONE C, LOCATED AT 90 92 RAINY STREET. 
          THIS IS IN THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLANT AREA. 
          UM, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING IS ADDITIONAL FLOOR AREA RATIO ABOVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE ALLOWANCE OF 1501. 
          THEY ARE SEEKING TO GO UP TO 32 TO ONE. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT WILL BE OFFERING A 51 STORY TOWER THAT WILL BE A MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING. 
          THE GROUND FLOOR WOULD INCLUDE A COCKTAIL LOUNGE AND BAR, UH, 267 SPACE PARKING GARAGE. 
          IN ADDITION TO STREETSCAPES APPROVED STREET, STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE ACCORDING TO THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM, 25 TO FIVE 86 STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THIS PROJECT. 
          UH, WE ARE BASING THIS RECOMMENDATION OFF OF A FEW KEY ITEMS. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS MET, UH, ALL OF THE GATEKEEPER REQUIREMENTS. 
          AS I SAID BEFORE, WITHIN SECTION 25, 25, 86, THEY ARE ACHIEVING A MINIMUM TWO STAR RATING UNDER THE OFFENSIVE GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM. 
          AND THEY HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLIED WITH THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES. 
          UM, RECENTLY AS LAST MONTH, THEY APPEARED AT THE DESIGN COMMISSION. 
          THE DESIGN COMMISSION ALSO PROVIDED A RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS ARE CONCERNED, WHICH IS ALSO A PART OF THE GATEKEEPER REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MEET. 
          UH, THEY WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE PROVIDING 9,358 AND A HALF SQUARE FEET OF ON-SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          THIS IS TO BE, UH, GOING UNDER THE 15TH, ABOVE THE 1501, UH, FAR RECOMMENDATION. 
          HE ALSO WILL BE PROVIDING A FEE IN LIEU AMOUNT OF $889,532. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY WILL BE PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL 400,000. 
          THIS IS TO GO FROM THE EIGHT OH ONE, THE RAINY FLORA, YOUR RATIO TO THE 15 TO ONE OH $400,000, WHICH BRINGS THE GRAND TOTAL OF THE FLOOR. 
          I'M SORRY TO SEE HIM LEW TO 1.28, $9,000,532. 
          AS I SAID BEFORE, BASED OFF OF THESE METRICS OR THESE CRITERIA STAFF IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR OF THE ADDITIONAL FLOOR AREA RATIO FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT, AMANDA SWORE ON THE PHONE? GOOD, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          THIS IS AMANDA SWORE WITH RENNER GROUP. 
          IF YOU COULD LET ME KNOW WHEN THE BLACK PRESENTATION IS PULLED UP, IT SAYS 90, 92 RAINY STREET. 
          I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL LET YOU KNOW JUST A MINUTE. 
           
          [04:25:42]
ALL RIGHT, MISS WORD. 
          WE CAN SEE YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          OH, WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, AGAIN, UH, GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS AMANDA SWORE WITH DINNER GROUP. 
          UH, HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THE 90, 92 RAINY STREET PROJECT. 
          I DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ARCHITECT TEAM, THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, THE OWNER, AND THE CIVIL ENGINEERS ON THE LINE. 
          IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOLLOWING OUR PRESENTATION, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, TO ORIENT YOU. 
          THIS IS THE PROPERTY THAT'S LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF DATA STREET AND RAINY STREET, AND IT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY THE CONTAINER BAR IN THE BUNGALOW BAR. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE PROPERTY IS 0.36 ACRES IN ZONE CBD WITH THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT. 
          THE PROPERTY MAY DEVELOP UP TO AN SAR EIGHT TO ONE WITH UNLIMITED HEIGHT, AS LONG AS THERE'S A PROVISION OF ON-SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT IS REQUIRED IN THE MAIN STREET DISTRICT PROGRAM. 
          BY PARTICIPATING IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM, AS STAFF MENTIONED, THIS PROJECT IS PROPOSING TO ACHIEVE AN SAR OF UP TO 32 TO ONE AND A HEIGHT OF JUST OVER 600 FEET. 
          THIS PROJECT WILL BE SEEKING APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL TO ACHIEVE THE ADDITIONAL FAR ABOVE THE STANDARD 15 TO ONE THAT IS ALLOWED ADMINISTRATIVELY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL TOTAL 511,492 SQUARE FEET. 
          IT WILL CONTAIN APPROXIMATELY 446 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AS, AS JUST UNDER 12,000 SQUARE FEET OF PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USES ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND SUB GRADE, THE PROJECT WILL PROVIDE 267 PARKING SPACES. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS PROJECT IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ITS LOCATION AND PARKING AT A SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED RATE. 
          THIS PROJECT HAS ALSO BEEN DESIGNED SO THAT THERE ARE NO CURB CUTS ON RAINY STREET OR DAVIS STREET AND ALL ACCESS TO THE STRUCTURED PARKING IS FROM THE EXISTING ALLEY NEXT LICENSE UNDER THE CURRENT DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM, A PROPERTY IN THE RAINY STREET STAFF MENTIONED IS ALLOWED AN FAR 15 TO ONE ADMINISTRATIVELY WITH COMPLIANCE WITH THE GATEKEEPER REQUIREMENTS. 
          WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS AREA IS PART OF THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY PROGRAM THAT AS PART OF THE DOWNTOWN DC BONUS PROGRAM IS WHERE WE WANT TO FOCUS DENSITY PER AN ORDINANCE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. 
          IN 2014, A PROJECT MAY ACHIEVE AN FAO 15 ONE WITH APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT UNDER THE DRAFT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REWRITE THAT THE AREA THAT COVERS DOWNTOWN AND RAINY STREET WAS PROPOSED TO REMOVE ALL FAR REQUIREMENTS AND ALLOW PARTICIPATION IN THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS TO BE COMPLETELY ADMINISTRATIVE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THIS PROJECT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE GATEKEEPER REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING A TWO STAR GREEN BUILDER, GREAT STREET'S COMPLIANCE AND SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINES. 
          THIS PROJECT IS ACHIEVING A THREE-STAR GREEN BUILDER IS PART OF THE COMMUNITY TO BENEFIT NOT JUST THE STANDARD TWO STAR, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY BY ORDINANCE. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          UH, HIS STAFF MENTIONED THIS REQUEST WAS REVIEWED BY THE DESIGN COMMISSION ON DECEMBER 28, FOR SOME STAGE OF COMPLIANCE OF THE DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINES AND A RECOMMENDATION ON THE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY BENEFITS. 
          I'M VERY PLEASED TO SAY THAT THE PROJECT RECEIVED A UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DESIGN COMMISSION, GIVEN THAT RECOMMENDATION, I'M GOING TO TRY TO RESPECT YOUR TIME. 
          I'M REALLY GONNA HIT JUST ON THE REMAINDER. 
          WE NEED BENEFITS, NOT ON BUILDING DESIGN. 
          IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION. 
          UH, I DO WANT TO HIT ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT THAT THAT STAFF MENTIONED IN THEIR PRESENTATION BY, RIGHT. 
          UH, AS I SAID, THIS PROJECT CAN DEVELOP UP TO EIGHT TO ONE, AS LONG AS THEY PROVIDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CONSISTENT WITH THE RAINY STREET PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE 4,649 SQUARE FEET OF ON-SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PER THE ORDINANCES. 
          THE REMAINDER OF THE DENSITY BONUS COULD BE GRANTED WITH A FAMILY, BUT WHAT THIS PROJECT HAS DONE IS OVER TRIPLED. 
          THE AMOUNT OF ON-SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WILL BE PROVIDED EQUALING 14,008 SQUARE FEET OF ON-SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 20 ONSITE UNITS, THE PROJECT WILL STILL PROVIDE A FEE OF CLOSE TO $1.3 MILLION TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND I WILL JUST WRAP TALKING ABOUT THE ADDITIONS 
          [04:30:01]
THAT ARE ON THE GREAT STREETS PROGRAM FOR ASSESSMENT. 
          AND THIS PROJECT IS FULLY COMPLIANT WITH GREAT STREETS. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY HEARD WAS THAT THERE WAS A NEED TO INCREASE THE PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT HERE. 
          SO WORKING WITH THE DESIGN COMMISSION, THIS PROJECT IS ENHANCING WHAT IS EVEN ENHANCING GREAT STREETS. 
          SO, AS I MENTIONED, ALL ACCENTS, IT'S COMING FROM THE ALLEY. 
          WE ARE REMOVING ALL EXISTING CURB CURB CUTS ON RAINEY STREET AND ON DATA STREET. 
          UM, WE ARE ADDING A WATER BOTTLE FILLING STATION THAT THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO USE OR PUTTING IN AN ART MURAL ON DAVIS STREET, AS WELL AS, UH, PUBLIC SEATING OUTSIDE OF, UH, OF THE PRIVATE SEATING THAT WILL ALSO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          SO WE ARE, UH, ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT THIS PROJECT BRINGS TO THE RAINY STREET AREA. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO STOP AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ON MY LIST, I'VE GOT, UM, SOME FOLKS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE WITH THE ARCHITECTURE FIRM AND THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRM. 
          SO, UM, COMMISSIONERS, JUST BE AWARE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING, UM, THOSE ITEMS THAT THERE'S FOLKS HERE TO ANSWER. 
          UM, AND THEN LET'S HEAR FROM THE OPPOSED MICHAEL ABLESON. 
          OKAY. 
          HI. 
          WE CAN HEAR YOU GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY, TERRIFIC. 
          UH, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO BE BEFORE YOU. 
          I WAS HERE SEVERAL WEEKS AGO ON DECEMBER 22ND, WHERE I MADE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE 22 TO ONE FOR ALLOWANCE FOR THE RIVER STREET RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION. 
          UM, SO IT WAS TOO LATE TO INTERFERE WITH THEIR FORM, BUT WE DID NOT SUPPORT THAT APPROVAL SOON AFTER ON DECEMBER 28TH, UH, I WROTE A LETTER, UH, TO YOU ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE AND WHAT WE COULD DO WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND STUFF, THESE EXTREMELY DENSE FORMS. AND I'M REPEATING OUR REQUESTS RIGHT NOW FOR YOUR HEALTH ON HERE TONIGHT, AGAIN, BUT THIS TIME WE ARE ADAMANTLY IN OPPOSITION AND DISAPPROVAL OF A 32 TO ONE FOUR REQUESTED BY THE DEVELOPERS OF 99 TO TWO STREET. 
          THIS IS FOUR TIMES THE ALLOWABLE FOR, FOR THE RAINY NEIGHBORHOOD AND APPROXIMATELY THREE TIMES THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE RESIDENTIAL FORKS IN MANHATTAN, NEW YORK CITY, THE DENTIST LOCATION AND AREA IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. 
          I RECENTLY SPOKE WITH THE NEW RESIDENT WHO NOW LIVES IN THE TOWERS. 
          HE'S A RETIRED SENIOR EXECUTIVE IN NEW YORK LIFE, REAL ESTATE INVESTORS WERE, AND HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR OVER $60 BILLION WORTH OF, UH, REAL ESTATE. 
          UH, AND, UH, HE WAS AMAZED THAT THIS WAS GOING ON HERE. 
          UM, I, I JUST WANT TO BRING IN A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. 
          I MEAN, MANHATTAN RESIDENTS ZONING ALLOWS FOR A 10, FOUR ABOVE THAT BONUSES ARE ALLOWED FOR DEVELOPERS TO IMPROVE LOCAL SUBWAY STOPS, WHICH OF COURSE WE HAVE NONE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSING, WHICH WE HEARD THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PLANNING ON DOING A PUBLIC OPEN SPACES IN THE FORM OF PLAZAS. 
          WELL, WE DON'T HAVE SPACE FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND OTHER FUNDS BEING, UH, TO HAVE LOCAL MARKET, UH, THE MAXIMUM DENSITY ZONING, AS I SAID BEFORE, MANHATTAN IS IT ISN'T FAR 10. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT'S USUALLY ONLY MAPPED ON THE NORTH SOUTH AVENUE ON EAST WEST SIDE STREETS. 
          ONCE THE LAND IS ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET BACK FROM THE AVENUE, THERE'S ALL THESE SHIFTS TO A DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION THAT IS EVEN LESS THAN HENCE THE AVERAGE FOR OUR ALLOWABLE, EVEN IN MANHATTAN, OKAY. 
          IS FAR BELOW A 10, A DELAWARE DEVELOPER MANHATTAN CAN ALSO USE THE INCENTIVE BONUSES TO AUGMENT ITS DENSITY BY ABOUT 20%, THE MOST DENSE DEVELOPMENTS IN MANHATTAN, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS RARELY EXCEED HALF OF THE DENSITY PROPOSED AT 99 TO TWO. 
          THE ILLEGAL IMMENSE FOR THE, FOR, FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OF NEW YORK IS ONLY A 12 TO ONE. 
          UM, I'M GOING TO SKIP SOME OF THIS CAUSE YOU'RE REALLY NOT THAT INTERESTED IN, UH, IN, IN DATA FROM, FROM MANHATTAN. 
          BUT THE POINT IS, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO MANHATTAN, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO GET IN AND HOW DENSE IT IS AND HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO TRAVEL. 
          AND THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT SUBWAY SYSTEM. 
          THEY HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS, UH, AND THEY HAVE SIGNIFICANT MORE ROAD SYSTEMS THAN WE HAVE. 
          UH, THE RAINY DISTRICT IS VIRTUALLY UN-SERVED BY MASS TRANSIT. 
          AND IT SEEMS TO BE STUMBLING INTO A DENSITY THAT MAY EXCEED WHAT IS EVEN ALLOWED THEM. 
          MANHATTAN RAINEY HAS NO MASS TRANSIT AND NONE PLAN EXCEPT FOR ONE POSSIBLE LIGHT RAIL STOP ABOUT A DECADE AWAY, WHICH REQUIRES A FIVE TO EIGHT LONG BLOCK WALK FOR MOST CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS, MOSTLY NARROW SIDEWALKS WITH MANY STREETS WITHOUT OUTSIDE WALL, NO SIGNAGE, CROSSWALKS, THERE'S NO GUIDANCE. 
          EVEN WHERE TO WALK, TO CROSS ANY STREETS IN WRITING THE CITY, ISN'T DOING ANYTHING TO HELP US. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, 
          [04:35:01]
WE HAVE NARROW STREETS AND IN FACT, ATV IS ACTUALLY MAKING EAST AVENUE EVEN NARROWER. 
          THERE ARE A FEW SHOPS OR STORES, UM, OTHER THAN RESIDENTS OR EXCUSE ME, RESIDENT RESTAURANTS AND BARS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND NOW THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT BEING PLANNED. 
          UH, SO PEOPLE IN MANHATTAN DON'T HAVE CORALS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRAW PEOPLE IN RAINY NEED TO HAVE CARS, AND WE NEED TO DRIVE BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING IN RAINY, OTHER THAN RESTAURANTS, BARS, AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S ONLY THREE WAYS IN AND OUT FOR VEHICLES IN THE RAINY DISTRICT, WHICH WILL BE THE HOME FOR OVER 10,000 RESIDENTS. 
          IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE A THOUSAND OR SO GUESTS THAT COME EVERY THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY NIGHT, AND WE HAVE THE MAC, WHICH IS GOING THROUGH AN EXPANSION PROGRAM, K EXCESSIVE CONGESTION, A THURSDAY, FRIDAY, AND SATURDAY EVENING LIMIT EMERGENCIES IN POST. 
          AND WITH ALL THE DENSITY THAT'S BEING PUT INTO RAINY, IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO GET AROUND. 
          YOU'RE ALLOWING THE BUILDING OF SOMETHING TWO TO THREE TIMES, THE DENSITY OF MANHATTAN WITH THE ABOVE LIMITATIONS AND WITH MONEY COMMITTED BY DEVELOPERS, NOT EVEN STAYING IN RAINY AND THE PAST IS GOING ELSEWHERE. 
          WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS STOPS, WE BADE YOU PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS 32 TO ONE FORM. 
          AT LEAST DELAY YOUR DECISION UNTIL A STUDY CAN BE DONE TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE TRUE RAMIFICATIONS OF ALL THIS INCREDIBLY HIGH DENSITY. 
          THE CITY DECIDED THAT EIGHT TO ONE WAS IMPORTANT AND SHOULD IT BE BREACHED? OKAY. 
          IF YOU HAD A BREACH IT, THEN IT BECAME 15 TO ONE WITH ADDITIONAL HEALTH TO THE CITY AND DIFFERENT AREAS IN THE CITY. 
          YOU WILL PROVE LAST MONTH AT 22 TO ONE, THIS ON THE DOCKET TONIGHT IS A 32 TO ONE. 
          WHERE DOES IT STOP? IT'S WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY. 
          WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT QUALITY OF LIVING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE NOW. 
          PLUS THE PEOPLE WHO USE THEM. 
          WE'RE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE'RE NOT AGAINST DENSITY 15 TO ONE 70 RAINY, WHICH IS A VERY TALL STRUCTURE THAT HAS HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF, OF UNITS IN IT WITH LESS THAN A 14 TO ONE FOUR. 
          SO PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS AT LEAST IF YOU, IF IT MUST GO FORWARD, UH, JUST DELAY IT SO WE CAN SEE THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT THAT CAN REALLY CAUSE AN INCREDIBLE DENSITY IT'S CAUSING. 
          I'LL STOP THERE. 
          UM, AND I'LL OBVIOUSLY I'LL BE AVAILABLE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, CHAIR MOTION TO EXTEND TILL 11. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, ALTHOUGH I GOT A SECOND SCHNEIDER, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. 
          WE GOT ANOTHER 16 MINUTES. 
          UM, THAT'S ALL OF OUR SPEAKERS. 
          CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE BY VOLUNTEERING? ALL RIGHT. 
          SO COMMISSIONER SENIOR MUSHERS ARE, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I GOT 11 ZERO. 
          UH, ANY QUESTIONS? MISSIONARIES ARE SO STAFF, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO THE VISION FOR THE RAINY SWEDE DISTRICT, FORMER DR. 
          BLAND TO SORT OF OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED AFTER, UM, WHAT GANSLERS INDICATED, WHAT IS THE VISION FOR THE KIND OF DISTRICT THAT WE'RE FEEDING IN TERMS OF, IS THERE SORT OF A BAR OF DUMBED DOWN? IS IT A SIMILAR DENSITY? IS IT SEPARATE? WHAT IS OUR VISION AS A CITY FOR THIS DISTRICT? IS MR. JENKINS ON THE PHONE? CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          THIS IS ERIN JENKINS WITH STAFF. 
          AGAIN, I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK HOLISTICALLY TO WHAT THE VISION IS. 
          UM, OF THE, THE RAY DISTRICT. 
          IT IS A PART OF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN, A SUB-DISTRICT OF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN. 
          UM, SO I, UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH INFORMATION ON THE VISION. 
          UH, BASICALLY WE AS STAFF, WE REVIEW OUR RECOMMENDATION. 
          IT'S ALL BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT IS GIVEN TO US, WHICH IS THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM. 
          UM, THAT INCLUDES THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT WOULD BE OFFERED. 
          UM, SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING SEPARATE AS FAR AS, UH, WITH THE VISION IS THAT THAT'D BE MORE SO A PLANNING TOOL OR SOME SORT OF PLANNING PROGRAM THAT WOULD NEED TO BE COMING IN PLAY, UM, APART FROM WHAT THIS IS. 
          SO, UNFORTUNATELY, TO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH OF AN ANSWER AS FAR AS WHAT THE VISION WOULD BE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RESPOND TO, UH, COMMISSIONER AZHAR. 
          I JUST LOOKED AT THE, SOME OF THE MAPS ON THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN AND THE RAIMI DISTRICT 
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HAS 15, 11 ONE FAR WITH NO HEIGHT LIMIT. 
          SO I THINK IT KIND OF TELLS US IT'S DESTINED FOR VERY TALL THINGS. 
          SO THAT'S JUST WHAT I OBSERVED FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION AND THE METH FOR ABIDED. 
          UH, YEAH, THERE'S NO HEIGHT LIMIT IN THAT RANGE OF DISTRICT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE, UM, MRS. FIRST STAFF, UM, YOU MIGHT'VE SAID THIS, BUT WHERE DOES THE $1.2 MILLION IN FEES? WHERE WILL THAT GO AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING? SO YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. 
          I'M HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH MY PHONE HERE. 
          I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ANSWER, AND THEN AARON HAS ANYTHING TO ADD. 
          SURE. 
          SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PIECES OF THE $1.3 MILLION GOES INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND. 
          AND AS YOU HEARD EARLIER TODAY, THAT GOES TOWARDS, UM, IT CAN GO TOWARDS PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. 
          I CAN GO TO WHATEVER THE TRUST FUND USES IT FOR, BUT IT GOES INTO THE OVERALL CITY OF AUSTIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND. 
          AND THEN THIS PROJECT DID, DO I KNOW THERE WAS TALK ABOUT OTHER FEES, NOT STAYING IN RAINY, BUT THIS PROJECT DID DO A FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT IS CONTRIBUTING OVER $550,000 TO OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO RAINY, SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED BY ATB IN THEIR OVERALL, UH, CHECK TRADITION STUDY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THIS IS MY SOLUBLE SIX MINUTES, A COUPLE. 
          CAN I RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF THINGS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, AS FAR AS THE HEIGHT LIMITS, WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE NO HEIGHT LIMITS. 
          THAT'S NOT REALLY THE ISSUE. 
          THE INCIDENT, THE ISSUE IS THE DENSITY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AS IT BECOMES MORE AND MORE DENSE, AS FAR AS, AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT IS CONCERNED, IT BECOMES LESS LIVABLE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING HERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S ONLY THREE WAYS IN AND OUT. 
          UH, AND THERE IS NO TRANSPORTATION BY THE CITY. 
          WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY WILL NOT BRING BUSES IN AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          WE'VE ALREADY PROJECT CONNECT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A HALF A MILE AT THE LEAST AWAY FROM ANYBODY WHO LIVES IN RAINY AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING. 
          SO THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO FORMAL PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. 
          SO EVERYBODY HAS TO DRAW. 
          AND THE MORE PEOPLE WE PUT IN THIS, THE DENSER, UH, AND IT BECOMES VERY UNSAFE. 
          AND, AND, AND PART OF WHAT GOES WITH THAT IS THE SIDEWALKS ARE BE DEVELOPED AS DIFFERENT PROPERTIES ARE BEING DEVELOPED. 
          SO THAT MEANS UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES, AND MANY OF THEM DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WALKING AROUND, WALKING IN THE STREETS, COMPETING WITH CARS. 
          IF YOU CLOSE DOWN THE STREETS AND YOU DON'T ALLOW, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH FIVE OR 6,000 PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, THEY NEED TO HAVE CORDS TO GET AROUND. 
          SO THE ISSUE BECOMES DENSITY, UH, AND, AND NOT INOCULATE AS FAR AS MONEY IS CONCERNED. 
          WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. 
          I MEAN, I'M, I'M PRESIDENT OF, OF, OF RAINY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS HAS BECOME PUBLIC COMMENTS OR ONE OF US WILL HAVE TO DIRECT THE QUESTION IN ORDER TO GET THIS RIGHT, MR. ABLESON WHAT IF SOMEBODY ASKS YOU A QUESTION YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE. 
          UM, DID ANYBODY HAVE, UM, A QUESTION WE'VE GOT FIVE MORE SPOTS LEFT MR. SHAW OR CHAIR SHAW. 
          OH, YOU'RE ON MUTE. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS, UH, TRYING TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, AND I NEED STAFF TO ANSWER THIS. 
          SO I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE, THE, THE MAP I WAS LOOKING AT THAT HAD THE UNLIMITED HEIGHT, AND THIS IS THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM MAP THAT LISTED THE FAR LIMITS AND THE HEIGHT LIMITS. 
          UH, IT HAD A LIMIT OF 15 TO ONE FOR THE FATHER. 
          AND AS I UNDERSTOOD THAT, THAT WAS THE LIMIT. 
          UM, EVEN WHEN DENSITY BONUS IS APPLIED. 
          SO I GUESS I NEED STAFF TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT 
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ARE THE LIMITS IN THIS AREA, UH, FOR FAR, BECAUSE THE WAY I READ IT WAS 15 TO ONE. 
          THIS IS ERIC JENKINS AGAIN, UH, FROM STAFF. 
          UM, THE LIMIT, THE ADMINISTRATIVE LIMIT IS 15 TO ONE THAT IS WITH STAFF CAN APPROVE UP TO WAS 15 TO ONE. 
          HOWEVER, ANYTHING ABOVE THAT 15, THE ONE WOULD NEED TO BE, UH, APPROVED, UH, GO FOR BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. 
          UH, WE CAN'T APPROVE ANYTHING ABOVE THE 15 TO ONE. 
          SO YOU ARE CORRECT RIGHT NOW, THE, THE RAINY, THEY HAVE AN EIGHT TO ONE IN THE RAINY DISTRICT, BUT BEING THAT IT'S A PART OF THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM, THEY'RE ABLE TO GO UP TO 15 TO ONE FAR RIGHT NOW, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO GO ABOVE THAT ADMINISTRATIVE LIMIT, WHICH IS WHERE COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO COME IN. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. 
          THAT'S WHY WE'RE MEETING ON THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION I WILL I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, GO WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO GRANT THE FAR FROM 15 TO ONE TO 31.7 TO ONE IN A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER AZHAR, I'M SPEAKING TO MY MOTION. 
          I WILL, UM, JUST SAY THAT THE DOWNTOWN AREA, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF AREAS THAT ARE LIMITED, SEVERELY LIMITED AND CAPPED BY THE CAPITOL, UH, UH, VIEW CORRIDORS. 
          AND SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT DOES NOT HAVE THAT LIMITATION, AND THERE MAY BE PROBLEMS WITH THE CARS GETTING AROUND, BUT THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS SO CLOSE TO JOBS TO, TO TRANSIT TO THE TRAIL, THAT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER WAYS TO GET AROUND THAT. 
          I THINK LIMITING THE DENSITY BECAUSE CARS CAN'T GET AROUND IS, IS NOT A GOOD IDEA IN THIS AREA. 
          SO WHOLEHEARTEDLY RECOMMEND THE FAR INCREASE IN THIS AREA. 
          JUST, IT MAKES SENSE. 
          UM, ANYBODY AGAINST THE MOTION ANYBODY'S SPEAKING FOR, I'M GONNA SPEAK REAL QUICK, REAL QUICK. 
          UM, SO, UH, THIS PROJECT IS WAY UNDER PARKING. 
          LIKE WE'RE FINALLY GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE THE DENSITY WHERE WE'RE WORKING, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE EVERYBODY STUCK WITH AROUND THREE TO 4,000 POUND CARBON SPEWING MACHINE, JUST TO GO GET AN EIGHT GALLON, YOU KNOW, AN EIGHT POUND GALLON OF MILK. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE IMPERVIOUS WITH IT BEING NARROWER, EVERY SINGLE UNIT, IT HAS LESS IMPERVIOUS COVER OVERALL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE UNIT IS ON TOP OF ANOTHER, ON TOP OF ANOTHER. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SO MANY OF THE TIMES THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE PROBLEMS THAT COME WITH DEVELOPMENT, BUT NOW WE'RE STARTING TO GET THIS REALLY COMPACT AND CONNECTED DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND HONESTLY, I THOUGHT COMMISSIONER SEEGER PUT IT BEST. 
          LAST TIME WE SAW THE RIVER STREET, UM, BOWLING, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THESE RIGHTS WERE AFFORDED TO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AND HERE WE ARE JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD AND GIVING BETTER DEVELOPMENT ON THE GROUND, REPLACING TWO BARS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST OR NO, I JUST WANTED TO, I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. 
          I THINK THERE'S STILL, THEY WON'T TAKE AWAY THE BAR. 
          THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE A BAR RIGHT THERE. 
          IT'S GOT TO BE TWO BARS. 
          ANYWAY, THE HOUSING WE STARTED. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          WE STARTED THE EVENING WITH  ON, IN THE DISCUSSION OF WHERE TO PUT DENSITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          AND, UH, WE HAD THE DISCUSSION. 
          WAS IT APPROPRIATE THERE? WHERE IS IT APPROPRIATE? I THINK WE FOUND THE SPOT WHERE THE DENSITY IS APPROPRIATE AND IT SHOULD, ARE DENSE THAT THEY SHOULD BE FOCUSED IN MY OPINION, AND THE DOWNTOWN AND SURROUNDING AREAS WHERE THERE IS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND THERE ARE JOBS. 
          SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS, YOU KNOW, THE 32 TO ONE IS KIND OF HIGH. 
          HOWEVER, THIS IS WHERE IT BELONGS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYBODY SPEAKING AGAINST OR NEUTRAL OR ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON, WELL, LET ME, CAN SOMEONE REMIND ME IF I CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE? OKAY. 
          UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. 
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YAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, 12 ZERO. 
          AND LET'S NOW VOTE ON THE MOTION, WHICH TO REPEAT IS TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF ADDITIONAL FAR FROM 15 TO ONE TO 31.7 TO ONE. 
          UH, THE SECOND WAS BY, UM, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON AND RIGHT. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT WAS UNANIMOUS 12 ZERO. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT IS IT FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE BRIEFING, UM, ON THE, UH, STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT, UM, ON OUR NEXT MEETING ON FEBRUARY 9TH. 
          SO ARE THERE ANY, UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES? YES. 
          FIVE WANT TO CONSIDER SO GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT WHILE IT'S FRESH IN OUR HEADS, THIS SLIDE THAT WE JUST HEARD, IT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO BE AGAINST WHAT I THINK CITY COUNCIL OFTEN DOES WITH ONE PERSON IS THEY LET THEM SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND SHOULD ONE OF THEM CHOOSE TO PULL IT, THEN THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE MAYBE HEARD FROM THE GENTLEMEN EARLIER ON AND THEN KIND OF FORGOT A BIG CONVERSATION. 
          THAT KIND OF WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE AND SIX STAFF AND THAT GENTLEMAN TIME, SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, UM, WE MADE IT TO, UM, I HAVE QUICK UPDATES ON ANY OF THE COMMITTEES CODES AND ORDINANCES TALK FAST. 
          WE HAVE TWO MINUTES, ONE MINUTE. 
          NOW WE HAVE NOT MET ANY, ANY COMMITTEES WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE? NOPE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UH, TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, I'M ENTERING THIS MEETING AT 10 59. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
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