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          [CALL TO ORDER]
          [00:00:04]
          UH, I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. 
          THIS IS A ONLINE MEETING OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION. 
          TODAY IS FEBRUARY 1ST, THE FIRST DAY OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH. 
          AND WE ARE AT CISCO WEBEX, EXTRAORDINARY EXTRAVAGANZA. 
          [CITIZEN COMMUNICATION]
WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH, UH, OUR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION. 
          UM, AND YOU SENT ME A LIST, RIGHT? OKAY. 
          I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT JUST A SECOND THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I SENT AN EMAIL WITH THE LIST. 
          YOU HAVE TWO GENERAL COMMUNICATION PEOPLE, AND THEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER FOLKS WHO ARE SPEAKING ON ITEM TWO A, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE THE GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS FIRST, AND THEN THE PEOPLE SPEAKING ON ITEM TWO, A COULD SPEAK DURING THAT ITEM. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          SAID THE TWO THAT I LISTED IN THE EMAIL WHO WAS SPEAKING ON GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK AND THEN THE OTHERS ON ITEM TWO, A DURING THAT ITEM AND TO CLARIFY SO THAT PEOPLE ON TWO EIGHT, WE CAN ACTUALLY ASK THEM QUESTIONS AND ENGAGE THEM DURING THAT SECTION. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE, YEAH, WE HAVE A LONG LIST HERE FOR ITEM TWO, A AND WE HAVE TEAS, UH, LEGGETT. 
          IS SHE HERE? SHOCK. 
          I THINK WHAT KIM WAS SUGGESTING IS YOU SKIP IT, THE HOLD OFF ON THE TWO-WAY FOLKS UNTIL WE GET TO TWO A AND JUST GENERAL FOLKS. 
          NOW THAT WAY THEY CAN BE IN PART OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M AT. 
          UH, TWO PEOPLE, A TEASER LEGGETT AND LISA UMAR MONTH, CORRECT? IT'S TISA NEGATIVE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I'M ON. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BUT, AND I, A LITTLE ALVAREZ AND I WAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TO YOU. 
          I THINK, I THINK YOU MIGHT BE SIGN UP LATER. 
          IS THAT FOR AS I FIND THEM TOO? OH, YES. 
          I'M SO SORRY. 
          YEAH, NO PROBLEM. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, TESA. 
          YES, SIR. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSION FOR YOUR WORK THEN UP FOR MUSICIAN AND BEEN USED AN UPSTANDER UP WITH YOU. 
          SO LET ME TELL YOU HOW THAT'S GOING TO START. 
          AS YOU'VE WORKED TO REOPEN SAFELY AND EVEN JUST TO SURVIVE, IT WOULD BE EASY TO MISS THE HISTORIC OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MORE AWARENESS ABOUT AN EQUITY. 
          CURRENTLY, THERE IS NO TRANSPARENCY OR SHARE TOOL BETWEEN MUSICIANS AND THE NEWS, MAKING THE PROCESS AND EFFICIENT. 
          I'M ACTUALLY RISKY AND EQUITABLE. 
          IF YOU SEE PAGE THREE AND FOUR IN YOUR BOOK SO THAT WE CAN OVER TO YOU, AMPED UP WITH CREATIVE, TO RECONSTRUCT AS DEMOCRATIZE MUSIC CULTURE, MAKING IT EASIER FOR MUSICIANS, AND THEN USED TO MAKE A LIVING. 
          SO PEOPLE OF COLOR WOMEN, LGBT COMMUNITIES HAVE A FAIR SHOT. 
          OUR TOOL IS SEAMLESS AND THAT VENUES CAN FIND BOOKS AS GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH MUSICIANS. 
          WE ARE THE ONLY SITE IN THE WEB TO DATE WITH THE FUNCTIONALITY THAT YOU WILL SEE. 
          I LIKE TO SHARE A FEW KEY ELEMENTS TO OUR PLATFORM AND PROVIDE YOU ACCESS. 
          FIRST IS OUR DIVERSITY TRACKING. 
          IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE SIX, OUR PLATFORM HAS SEARCHED FILTERS FOR DIVERSITY. 
          I'VE BEEN, YOU CANNOT OWN SEARCH FOR A BAND BY DATE, JOHN DRA, LOCAL VERSUS TOURISTS AND THE LIGHT, BUT IT ALSO CAN SEARCH FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR FEMALE LGBTQ. 
          THESE METRICS ARE TRACKED ON THE BACK END AND WILL ALERT BIG. 
          IF THEY'RE HIRING AND PAY DISPROPORTIONATELY, THOSE DATA CAN ALSO BE USED BY CITY GOVERNMENTS TO HELP TRACK FUNDING REQUIREMENTS AROUND DIVERSITY. 
          THIS PROVIDES A MACRO VIEW WITH AFFORDABLE DATA OF HOW THE BURSTS ARE SAGES TRULY ARE SECOND. 
          WE TACKLED THEIR PAY AND TRANSPARENCY AND BOOKING. 
          IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE SEVEN AND EIGHT IN OUR PACKET THAT WE SENT TO YOU ALL WITH THAT, AN AGENT IS IT IS EXTREMELY COMMON TO PLAY A GIG WITH ALMOST NO IDEA WHAT YOU'LL GET PAID. 
          AND WITHOUT THIS BASIC INFORMATION, IT'S HARD TO MAKE SMART CHOICES THAT BUILD YOUR CAREER AT AMPED UP. 
          WE START BY WRITING DOWN THAT AGREEMENT WITH EAT OR EAST GATE EMPOWER YOU TO SET SIX PRICING. 
          PLEASE LOOK ON PAGE NINE. 
          WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR VENUES. 
          WE PROVIDE THE MOST VALUABLE DECISION-MAKING TOOL, A MUSICIANS, TICKETS, SALES HISTORY, WHICH IS DISPLAYED NEXT TO EACH PAST SHOW. 
          IT COMES FROM TRANSACTION HISTORY. 
          IT'S TRUSTWORTHY AND IT'S CONSISTENT. 
          AND AT THE END OF EACH PERFORMANCE AND SAFELY AS AUTOMATICALLY DEPOSITS PAYMENT AND TO MUSICIANS ACCOUNTS WELL WHEN OUR MONEY ON TIME, RIGHT? SO THAT ARTISTS KEEPING THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION IN MIND, AS WELL AS EXITING A DARK ALLEY WITH HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS IN CASH, OR SEARCHING OUT A BAR MANAGER IN A BACKROOM AT 2:00 AM TO GET PAID. 
          THIRD MUSICIANS HAVE BEEN MOST EXCITED. 
          [00:05:01]
THIS IS WHAT'S REALLY FUN ABOUT OUR PATENT SPEAKING TOUR ROUTING TOOL. 
          NOT ONLY DOES THIS PROCESS SHAPE UPDATES OF PLANNING AND HELP THEM PITCH THE RENT VENUES, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, ELECTS POTENTIAL BEEN USED. 
          NO THERE'LL BE NEARBY. 
          THIS OPENS UP ENORMOUS OPPORTUNITY TO FILL THOSE GAPS AND SPREAD THE LOVE OF LIVE MUSIC TO TOWNS THROUGH THE RAPS THAT OFTEN GET PASSED OVER. 
          SO WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS WE'RE LAUNCHING IN MARCH RIGHT HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          AND WE'D LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST PLACEMENT ON YOUR AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH MEETING TO DISCUSS THE TECHNOLOGY INDEPENDENT HOSTING THE FREE EDUCATION SERIES FOR VENUES AND MUSICIANS REGARDING DIVERSITY FAIR PAY. 
          AND RE-IMAGINING THE REOPENING. 
          THEN YOU'D SEND ME BUSINESS. 
          WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT AMPED UP. 
          WE NEED BETA TESTERS. 
          IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED, PLEASE CONTACT US. 
          AND MY INFORMATION IS IN THAT POWERPOINT. 
          I WANTED TO BE VERY RESPECTFUL OF OUR THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT. 
          SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR YOU WANT TO GET TO KNOW ME A LITTLE BIT MORE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. 
          SUSAN DOES JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHEN, WHEN THE IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE THE TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS ANY PARTICULAR TOPIC. 
          WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME COMMISSION. 
          I DO APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN YOU OFTEN, OKAY. 
          I CAN NOW, NOW AGAIN. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT'S GOING ON IN MY MIND. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THAT AUDIO, WHATNOT, BUT UH, I'LL TAP IN WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND I'LL CHECK IT OUT AND IT SOUNDED LIKE A GOOD START. 
          THANK YOU, UH, TITA. 
          UM, NEXT ON THAT, I THINK YOU SAID LISA THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I GUESS THAT'S ENOUGH, BUT DID YOU NEED ME TO GO AGAIN? I MEAN, I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO BE OUT OF MY PROBLEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          OKAY, WELCOME. 
          OKAY. 
          OH, YESTERDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          [1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
SO, UH, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING? YEAH. 
          I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. 
          I'D SECOND THAT MOTION. 
          YEAH, A SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ALL IN FAVOR. 
          HI. 
          AND IF YOU CAN'T SEE, FOLKS ARE, EVERYBODY'S RAISING THEIR HANDS I'M, I'M LIKE ON MY PHONE LOOKING AT EMA AND ANYBODY OPPOSED TO THAT? NOPE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON. 
          UM, WANTED TO, BEFORE WE GET INTO, UM, THE REST OF THE AGENDA, JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, THAT IT IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND, YOU KNOW, LAST MONTH, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING PRESENTATION, UH, FROM ARTISTS, UM, APPROXIMATELY DURING OUR, DURING OUR MEETINGS. 
          AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT TOGETHER, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT TODAY. 
          UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO OCCUR, BUT AS FOLKS KNOW I'M ARTISTS. 
          SO, UM, I WANTED TO SHARE A PIECE OF POETRY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I WROTE, UM, ON THE, UH, 4TH OF JULY AT 4:00 AM. 
          WHEN I WOKE UP IN THE MORNING ON THE 4TH OF JULY, THIS IS CALLED FOR OF NO LIES. 
          IF YOU THINK, EVEN FOR A SPLIT SECOND, THAT BECAUSE I WAS BORN WITH MELANIN AND YOU WILL NOT THAT YOU ARE SOMEHOW ENTITLED TO RULE OVER MY BREATH, MY COMINGS, AND GOING MY CHOICE OF LOVE 
          [00:10:01]
MY SELF-WORTH, MY STORY, MY FREEDOM TO BE WHO I WAS CHOSEN TO BE, I WILL CORRECT IT. 
          I WILL CORRECT YOU. 
          I WILL CORRECT ALL OF THIS SIMPLISTIC, CHILDISH, IRRATIONAL, AND SPOILED WORLDVIEW THAT SOMEHOW CONTINUES TO LIVE INSIDE OF YOUR DENTS AND TANGLED SYNOPSIS. 
          I WILL CORRECT IT WITHOUT A SINGLE WORD. 
          THERE WILL BE NO MORE PRAYERS FOR LIBERATION FROM THE SICK AND TWISTED CONSTRUCT THAT YOU CLAIM AS REALITY. 
          I WILL CORRECT IT WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING YOUR PRESENCE AT ALL, BECAUSE YOUR PRETEND IS A LIE AND THESE LIES ARE BEING EXPOSED FOR WHAT THEY ARE. 
          I COVER UP AND ILLUSION UNNECESSARILY RUDE TO PERPETUATE A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY ENTITLEMENT, SUPERIORITY. 
          I WILL CORRECT IT. 
          YOUR WORLD IS ENDING AND YOU'RE SCARED, BUT THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM. 
          THAT IS THE BREAKTHROUGH. 
          AND THIS IS THE HEADLINE. 
          AWESOME MISSION IS NO LONGER THE ADMISSION, NO LONGER THE PRICE OF THE TICKETS TO OUR LIBERTY OFF IN THE DISTANCE. 
          YOU CAN NOT RUN AND WE DO NOT NEED TO ESCAPE. 
          THERE WAS NO MORE TIME FOR FALSE IDOLS OR IDLE MANTRAS OR IDEALIST PURITANICAL BIBLE THUMPING. 
          THE NORTH STAR BROUGHT US RIGHT HERE TO THIS DAY. 
          AND WE AIN'T GOING BACK TO ANY TIME THAT NARRATES OURSELF DISTRACTION. 
          DAVID'S ONLY NOW ONLY FORWARD, ONLY THE REVELATION OF A SUCCESSFUL MOVEMENT INTO THE DAY WE KNEW WE COME, THIS IS THE DAY OF OUR INDEPENDENCE FROM ANY BONDAGE TO YOUR NECK AND ARCHAIC FRAMEWORKS. 
          THIS IS THE DAY OF OUR INDEPENDENCE AND THE OWNERSHIP OF EVERYTHING WE ARE RIGHTFULLY BORN TO RECEIVE. 
          THIS IS THE DAY OF OUR INDEPENDENCE AND OUR FULLEST SELF REALIZATION THAT A FLAG ISN'T NECESSARY ONLY OUR DEEPLY EMBODIED COLLECTIVE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT YOUR SON HAS COMPLETE DATE SET. 
          OUR FIREWORKS WERE LIT WHEN THAT PRECINCT IN MINNEAPOLIS BURNS TO THE GROUND, NO COOKOUTS WILL BE HELD AT MY RESIDENCE TODAY. 
          I WILL FAST LIKE AS RAMA DOWN WHILE VISUALIZING MY ANCESTORS, SMILING, DANCING, REVELING TO THE RHYTHM OF THEIR ONE STOLEN DRUMS THAT REACH BACK INTO OUR HUMAN GENESIS AND SYNCOPATE THE PULSE OF EACH AND EVERY STEP FORWARD, THEY WILL BE NO PARADE SCHEDULED, NO BANDS PLAYING YOUR WARHEADS, NO STREAMERS, POMPOMS, OR EMPTY RATIONALIZATIONS FOR A DESTINY DREAM DEFERRED. 
          THIS IS A NEW DAY. 
          THIS IS OUR WATER, OUR AIR, OUR EARTH, OUR WE BIRTH. 
          THIS IS OUR DECLARATION OF ASCENDANT. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING. 
          THAT WAS CALLED THE, OF NO ALIVE. 
          AND HOPEFULLY EVERY, UH, EVERY MUSIC COMMISSION, WE WILL HAVE SOMEBODY PERFORMING SOME TYPE OF TALENT THAT'S MUSICALLY RELATED. 
          UM, AND WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THE AGENDA. 
          HAPPY BLACK HISTORY MONTH, EVERY FIVE. 
          LET ME PULL UP. 
          I GOT SO MANY, OKAY. 
          APOLOGIZE. 
          [2a. Discussion and Possible Action on music permitting during COVID following presentations by Monica Caivano, Director of Esquina Tango and Brian Block,]
ALL RIGHT. 
          DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSIC PERMITTING DURING COVID FOLLOWING PRESENTATIONS BY MONICA SABANO DIRECTOR OF THE AND TANGO AND BRIAN BLOCK ENTERTAINMENT, SERVICE MANAGER DEVELOPMENT SERVER SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 
          THIS IS TWO 80 OF THESE YET. 
          THERE WAS THIS, WHAT ARE WE CALLING THE FOLKS TO SPEAK HERE? DID I GET THAT? THIS THE NAMES GOING? YES, I THINK SO. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M JUST GOING TO START IN THE ORDER THAT THESE ARE, AND, UM, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ALPHABETICAL, BUT WE'RE JUST GOING TO START AT THE TOP JENNIFER TO SECCHI, UH, I'M I'M HERE. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, THIS, THE PLATFORM THAT WE WERE TOLD WE WOULD HAVE, WE WERE TOTALLY BE ABLE TO, UM, 
          [00:15:01]
HAVE THE PRESENTATION THE SAME WAY MONICA HAD ONE LAST TIME. 
          AND SO WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY ORGANIZED TO DO THIS IN THREE MINUTES SEGMENTS, BUT I'LL TRY AND GET THROUGH AS MUCH OF OUR PRESENTATION AS WE HAVE IN THREE MINUTES. 
          UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHY WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT SAME AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT, UM, BASICALLY WE WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE, UH, SANTA RITA COURTS, THOSE WERE BUILT IN 1938. 
          MOST OF THE HOUSES ON THE STREETS SURROUNDING, UH, THE TANGO IS, OR THE ACQUAINTED TANGO, THOSE WERE BUILT IN THE FORTIES AND THE FIFTIES. 
          THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          AND THE ACQUAINTED TANGO IS THE NEWCOMER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT, NOT THE RESIDENTS. 
          WE KNOW THAT SHE'S BEEN HERE FOR 15 YEARS, BUT THE RESIDENTS AND THE RESIDENCES IN HERE MUCH LONGER THAN THAT, UM, AND OUR, OUR RIGHTS REALLY NEED TO BE UPHELD SINCE MONICA HAS OPENED HER DOORS. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE SENT EVIDENCE TO THE COMMISSIONERS OF THIS. 
          SHE HAS NOT ADHERED TO OPERATING HOURS. 
          SHE OPERATES AFTER TWO AND THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. 
          WE SPENT A COUPLE OF VIDEOS OF THAT. 
          SHE DOES NOT ADHERE TO DECIBEL LIMITS. 
          SHE HAS OPERATED WELL OUTSIDE OF DECIBEL ON IT DURING THE DAY AND AT NIGHT, AND KEPT HER NEIGHBORS AWAKE AND INTRUDED INTO OUR HOME. 
          AND THAT HAS HAD A HORRIBLE IMPACT ON OUR LIVES. 
          WE HAVE TROUBLE, UM, WORKING, SLEEPING, YOU KNOW, JUST CONDUCTING OUR DAILY LIVES IN OUR HOUSE. 
          AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT SHE WANTS TO BE AN OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE NOW, UM, AND THAT SHE DID THAT FOR A FEW MONTHS AND THE FEW MONTHS THAT SHE DID IT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT GOT, IT GOT EVEN WORSE. 
          UM, AND THERE IS NO WAY TO FUNCTION IN YOUR HOUSE WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE'S MUSIC IS BLARING THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW, UPWARDS OF 20 OR THREE HOURS EVERY SINGLE WEEK. 
          UM, SHE MADE SOME COMMENTS AT THE LAST MEETING THAT IT WAS AN OCCASIONAL DISTURBANCE. 
          IT WAS NOT, WE HAVE COPIES OF HER SCHEDULES, UH, FROM HER PERFORMANCES. 
          SHE WAS AMPLIFYING MUSIC INTO OUR HOMES AND HAVING Y PERFORMANCES AND DRUM CIRCLES AT BROWN, 75 TIMES EVERY MONTH. 
          THAT'S NOT AN OCCASIONAL DISTURBANCE. 
          THAT'S A ROUTINE DISTURBANCE. 
          UM, ON TOP OF THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT SHE HAS A LOT OF SUPPORTERS, BUT PEOPLE THAT FIND HER PETITION AND ARE PERHAPS GOING TO SPEAK AT THIS MEETING, I WOULD ASK HOW MANY OF THEM ACTUALLY LIVE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF THIS RESIDENCE, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY VOTING TO GIVE AWAY THE RIGHTS AND PRIVACY AND PEACE IN THEIR OWN HOMES WITH THEIR, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, IS WE WANT THIS COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND GIVING AWAY THE RIGHTS AND THE PEACE AND THE LIVABILITY HOMES OF RESIDENTS AROUND A BUSINESS THAT I LIKE. 
          AND, BUT I GET TO GO HOME TO MY HOUSE AND, AND STILL HAVE MY PEACE AND QUIET. 
          I'M NOT THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE INTRUDED ON, AND THAT'S REALLY NOT FAIR. 
          IT REALLY SHOULD BE THE PEOPLE SURROUNDING THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT A BUSINESS GETS TO COME IN AND INTRUDE INTO THE, THE SANCTITY OF THEIR HOMES. 
          UM, LASTLY, I REALLY WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS COMMISSION, I THINK MAYBE LOOKING AT THE ISSUE, UM, KIND OF DIFFERENTLY THAN IT SHOULD, RATHER THAN GIVING AWAY THE RIGHTS OF THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, AS THESE HOME 70, 80 YEARS, PERHAPS THE THING TO DO IS TO LOOK AT HOW THE CITY CAN HELP BY GIVING HER AN UPDATE TEMPORARILY DURING COVID. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SHE, THE CITY OWNS A LOT OF PROPERTIES AND THE CITY HAS OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, FIND A VENUE, UM, THAT THEY COULD ALLOW HER TO OPERATE AT WHERE SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DRIVING THE NEIGHBORS OUT OF THEIR HOME. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT MONICA CLASSIFIES HERSELF AS AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I SPENT MOST OF 2020 WORKING FOR AN ORGAN AND TISSUE DONATION ORGANIZATION CALLING UP FAMILIES WHO HAD JUST SUFFERED DEATH AND TRYING TO GET THEM TO DONATE LIFE-SAVING ORGANS. 
          WE HAVE NEIGHBORS ON THIS STREET, UM, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK IN GROCERY STORES, PROVIDING ACTUAL FOODS TO PEOPLE. 
          UM, THE, THE SERVICE THAT MONICA PROVIDES PEOPLE CAN EXERCISE AFTER HOMES. 
          THEY CAN EXERCISE AND PARKS. 
          THEY CANNOT EXERCISE ALL KINDS OF OPEN AIR AREAS WITHOUT INTRUDING ON OTHER PEOPLE. 
          THEY CAN STREAM MUSIC INTO THEIR HOME. 
          THEY CAN EVEN STREAM FOR PERFORMANCES IF SHE HOLDS THEM IN DOORS INTO THEIR HOME. 
          SO THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS FOR THOSE GAPS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER OPTIONS OTHER THAN TO LIVE IN OUR HOMES. 
          WE ARE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE BY STAYING HOME. 
          AND WE DON'T DESERVE TO BE DRIVEN OUT OF OUR HOMES BY THOSE VENUE. 
          UM, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED. 
          I THINK A BETTER OPTION WOULD BE FOR THE CITY TO, UM, LOCATE A DIFFERENT AREA FOR HER TO TEMPORARILY USE THAT IS NOT WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF PEOPLE'S RESIDENCES. 
          [00:20:01]
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I SENT THE COMMISSION A VIDEO JUST OF ONE PERFORMANCE OF HOW LOUD IT WAS INSIDE OUR HOUSE. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, I WORK FROM HOME. 
          ERIC WORKS FROM HOME, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SIX PEOPLE ON THE STREET. 
          WE HAVE ELDERLY PEOPLE ON THE STREET. 
          NOT ONLY ARE WE BEING KEPT UP TO THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND LATER BECAUSE OF THE NOISE OF THE, YOU KNOW, AT THE VENUE. 
          UM, BUT EVEN DURING THE DAYTIME, WE CAN'T TEND TO UP OUR, OUR BUSINESS AS APPROPRIATE. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY THINK THAT IF THE CITY IS WANTING TO HELP HER, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DO THAT BY TAKING AWAY THE RIGHTS OF THE NEIGHBORS OR SUGGESTING THAT OUR CITY COUNCIL PEOPLE DO THAT IS MAYBE NOT THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO GO ABOUT IT. 
          UM, THERE ARE GOTTA BE OTHER OPTIONS AND MONICA AND HER GUESTS CERTAINLY HAVE OTHER OPTIONS, UM, BY, YOU KNOW, MEETING IN PARKS, BY, YOU KNOW, ATTENDING HER CLASSES VIRTUALLY IT'S REALLY COMES DOWN TO THEIR PREFERENCE TO DO IT OUTSIDE IN THAT SPACE. 
          WE DON'T GET TO MAKE A CHOICE. 
          WE HAVE TO LIVE IN OUR HOMES. 
          UM, AND IF I HAVE ANY TIME LEFT, YOU KNOW, I, I DO THINK THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER THE REST OF THE EVIDENCE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SENT OVER. 
          IT WAS A VERY SMALL SAMPLING. 
          WHAT WE SPENT AS A VERY SMALL SAMPLING, THAT BEHAVIORS HAVE BEEN ROUTINE, THE CARS PARKING IN FRONT OF DRIVEWAYS, THE BEER BOTTLES AND WINE BOTTLES BEING THROWN INTO OUR YARDS, UM, YOU KNOW, DRUNKEN PEOPLE BACKING INTO OUR CARS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NOISE THEY'RE NOT SHUTTING DOWN OR OPERATING WITHIN ANY TYPE OF DECIBELS LIMIT OUR HOURS. 
          IT REALLY HAS BEEN A GREAT DISTURBANCE TO IT. 
          IT DOES JUST SERVE THE PIECE OF THIS COMMUNITY AND IT HAS NOT HAD A POSITIVE IMPACT ON IT. 
          YEP. 
          IS THAT, ARE YOU DONE JENNIFER? GUESS IF I ONLY GET THREE MINUTES, I'M NOT SURE IF YOUR TIME IS UP SO YOU CAN GO UNTIL THEY TELL YOU TO STOP. 
          THE ALARM WAS THE, UH, THREE MINUTES. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO HEAR THAT. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR THE ALARM. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU, JENNIFER. 
          UM, ERIC DRYDEN. 
          YES, I AM HERE WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. 
          WELL, UH, I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH MORE TO ADD, UM, TO WHAT JENNIFER SAID. 
          UM, UH, JENNIFER AND I LIVE TOGETHER AND, UH, FOR ME, UH, THE ISSUE COMES DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT IS, IS JUST PRETTY SIMPLE AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S BASIC GEOGRAPHY. 
          AND THAT IS IF, IF MONICA AND A SKINNY TANGOE DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO HOLD A CONCERT OUTSIDE TO, UM, OVER, YOU KNOW, SINCE COVID STARTED WELL, THEN THAT BASICALLY MEANS THAT IF WE ARE AT HOME AND WE'RE AT HOME, MOST OF THE TIME NOW THAT WE HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THE CONCERT AS WELL, UM, WE DON'T, UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE SAY IN THE MATTER. 
          AND, AND THE PROBLEM THERE IS THAT OUR PROPERTY LINE IS 11 FEET FROM HER PROPERTY LINE. 
          AND THEN THE STAGE SET UP THAT SHE HAS IS ROUGHLY, I DON'T KNOW, 15, 20 FEET FROM THE FENCE LINE. 
          SO AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING, TALKING ABOUT CONCERTS GOING ON ROUGHLY FOUR TO FIVE TIMES A WEEK, SOMETIMES TWICE A DAY, WHICH IS WHAT, WHAT WAS HAPPENING, UM, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A SAY IN THE MATTER. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IF SHE WANTS TO HAVE A CONCERT, THEN, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE TO SIT FOR IT TOO. 
          UM, IF IT'S, IF IT'S EIGHT O'CLOCK AT NIGHT OR SEVEN O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, AND, UH, MAYBE WE'RE NOT FEELING WELL, OR HE WON'T ONE-ON-ONE WATCH A MOVIE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN SHE DECIDES THAT SHE WANTS TO, UH, HAVE THIS CONCERT OVER THERE. 
          AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER. 
          WE BASICALLY HAVE TO SIT THROUGH IT FOR SEVERAL HOURS UNTIL IT ENDS, BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT THERE. 
          AND, UH, AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AS JENNIFER SAID, FRANKLY, IS IT, I DON'T THINK IS FAIR TO US, BUT, UH, SO THAT'S BASICALLY HOW I SEE IT. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE FEEL LIKE 
          [00:25:01]
WE'RE NOT IN CONTROL WHERE, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANY POWER TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, EXCEPT CALL IN TO THE FOOT, TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE A NOISE COMPLAINT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND, BUT THAT REALLY ISN'T CONTROL. 
          THAT'S JUST THAT THAT'S MORE, THAT DOESN'T REALLY GET ANYTHING DONE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, UH, AS JENNIFER SAID, IF SOME KIND OF ALTERNATIVE MEANS CAN BE A USE SO THAT MONICA, YOU KNOW, SOME ADDITIONAL PROPERTY OR SOMETHING WHERE MONICA CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THIS, THEN I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST THING FOR EVERYONE. 
          UM, CONSTRUCT SOMETHING LIKE A FACILITY SHE HAS CONSTRUCTED OUTSIDE OF HER PLACE AND, AND DO IT SO MANY MINUTES ARE UP WHERE, EXCUSE ME, WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, UH, COMING INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES. 
          AND, UH, SO I, I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD CONSIDER. 
          UH, I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD ALTERNATIVE FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. 
          AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO SAY. 
          ONE THING TO CLARIFY IF YOU'RE, IF THE PRESENTATION WASN'T COMPLETED AND THIS IS A GROUP EFFORT, ONE PERSON CAN SEE IT A PORTION OF THEIR TIME TO THE PERSON WHO'S MAKING THE PRESENCE, PATIENT NELSON REPEATEDLY AT MEETINGS. 
          YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THEY CAN'T DONATE TIME. 
          UH, KIM CHECKED WITH THE CITY CLERK ON THAT, BUT, UM, I PROBABLY, I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, I THINK FOR JENNIFER AND A BIT HERE. 
          SO HOPEFULLY BETWEEN ALL OF THIS, THERE'LL BE ABLE TO SAY EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE PLANNED TO SAY THIS EVENING. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UH, THE SPEAKERS CAN'T DONATE TIME, UH, BECAUSE IT'S A REMOTE MEETING AND THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH TRANSPARENCY, UH, WITH IT BEING A REMOTE MEETING AND DONATING TIME. 
          SO I CHECKED WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE AHEAD OF TIME ABOUT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, NEXT IS THE ROW CRUISE. 
          YEAH, THIS IS RELEVANT. 
          HOW ARE YOU DOING? YES. 
          I JUST WANT TO ADD A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO WHATEVER WE TALKING ABOUT. 
          UH, ORIGINALLY THE OTHER ONE THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO ADD ON IS THAT WHEN SHE CAME HOME, APPROACHED US TO OPEN THE PLACE AND SHE ELSE ESPECIALLY APPLIED, WHO WAS THE GUEST, ONE OF THE FAMILY, A FAMILY, UH, I GUESS, GET TOGETHER TO LEARN HOW TO SPEAK MEAN. 
          THEY LEARN HOW TO TANGO AND, UM, FOR THE OLD FOLKS AND ALL THAT. 
          BUT, UH, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT HAPPEN. 
          AND, UH, THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, I UNDERSTAND HER LICENSE, WHICH WHENEVER THEY SEE THE PAPERWORK OF THIS CT MENTIONING WHAT SIDE, A LARGE, AND SHE WAS APPLYING FOR AFTER WE SIGN AND THAT ALL THIS ROAD IS STARTED LATER. 
          UH, THEY NOTICED THAT THE LICENSE THAT SHE APPLIED ACTUALLY LESS FOR A NIGHTCLUB, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE AWARE. 
          I AGREE ON. 
          AND THAT'S THE ONE THING IS YOU, WE CAN FIX THAT. 
          OR WHEN I DO, BECAUSE SHE LIED TO EVERYBODY, ALL THE, ALL THE RESIDENTS HERE, OH, THEY'RE OLD FOLKS. 
          AND BY DOING SO I WENT, I SIGNED A PETITION. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT TOLD US THAT SHE WAS GOING TO BE DOING THAT. 
          NOT AT NIGHTCLUB. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE, Y'ALL HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK ON HER LICENSE. 
          WELL, WHAT'S THAT VELOCITY APPLIED. 
          THERE WAS LIKE A SLAVE. 
          WE NEVER DID SEE IT. 
          UH, THE OTHER ONE THAT PARKING LOT IS SO BAD THAT I DON'T, I KNOW WE MENTIONED IT LAST TIME, BUT THEN WHEN SHE BRINGS ALL THESE OTHER CUSTOMERS ON THE, ON HER NEIGHBORHOOD, ON HER SIDE, IT'S ONLY A LIMITED SPACE. 
          THEY USED TO BE THE PARKING THAT IS THE PARKING SPACE FROM HER HOME, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO IT. 
          AND, UH, THERE'S NO PARKING LOT HERE FOR ANYBODY LIKE THAT. 
          AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME SEE HIM AND, UH, AND LIVING THE, A VISION OF THE SYSTEM AND, UH, THE DAMAGE IN CARS. 
          THAT WAS MY MAIN COMPLAINT. 
          LAST TIME, ONE OF MY, TWO OF MY VEHICLES GOT HIT AND, UH, OCTOBER OSCAR, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO. 
          AND SHE SAYS SHE WAS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. 
          THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PROBLEM WE HAVE WITH HER. 
          SO I NEED TO SEE IF WE CAN, UH, WE DON'T NEED NO MORE PERMITS FOR LIKE CLOTHES AROUND HERE. 
          LIKE I SAID, 
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WE DID MAKE A MISTAKE BY NOT SEEING THE HEART CONTRACT WITH A CD, WHICH SHE NEVER DID SHOW THAT TO ANYBODY. 
          UH, ALL SHE WAS JUST SAYING THAT SHE NEEDED THE SIGNATURES, THAT YOU CAN OPEN THE PLACE. 
          AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 
          BUT LIKE I SAID, OUR MISTAKE WAS WE NEVER DID SEE THE CONTRACT. 
          UM, AND NOW IT JUST STARTED THIS, UH, OUTDOOR DANCING EVEN BEFORE THE COVID. 
          AND NOW IT'S UP TO CODE. 
          THEY'RE NOT EVEN COMPLIANT WITH THE FACE MASK. 
          THEY HAVE LIMITED SPACE IN THREE MINUTES. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FEED LIKE 40, 60 FEET ON ONE LITTLE SPACE, WHICH IS THE OLD PARKING SPACES THAT SHE'S GOT FROM HER HOUSE. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THREE MINUTES. 
          JUST A HEADS UP. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN HEAR IT. 
          SORRY. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU I'M HAVING TROUBLE HEARING YOU. 
          SORRY. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          CAUSE IT'S ON MY PHONE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SLOW, BUT I CAN. 
          IT, YEAH. 
          WE'RE HAVING SOME TECH ISSUES AT CITY HALL. 
          I'M TRYING TO CATCH IT, BUT WE'LL UH, WE'LL KEEP LISTENING FOR IT. 
          THANK YOU, STEPHANIE. 
          UM, DORIS CRUZ. 
          YES. 
          I'M HERE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S MY HUSBAND SAID HE DID. 
          SHE DID COME IN TO THE NEIGHBOR AND THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF US THAT ARE OLDER. 
          AND SHE DID ASK IF SHE COULD DO THIS AS A DANCE STUDIO, TOO, WHERE SHE WAS GOING TO BE CONTINUED TANGO AND GIVING CLASSES TO THE ELDERLY, MAYBE PULL OUT, EASE HER DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          SHE'S GOTTEN OUT OF ADAM OUT OF PROPORTION HERE. 
          SHE STAYS UP LATE. 
          THEY STAY UP LATE. 
          SHE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE OUT THERE AS FAR AS I KNOW SHE HAS, YOU KNOW, LEASED OUT TO SOMEONE ELSE. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT AT WHICH IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME, BUT THE NOISE IS VERY LOUD. 
          YOU KNOW, Y'ALL WIND UP GIVING HER THIS. 
          AND THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL. 
          IF SHE WINDS UP BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS LOUD VOICE, I WOULD LIKE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR PHONE NUMBERS. 
          SO I CAN CALL YOU WHEN THIS GOES ON, BECAUSE I'D LIKE TO WAKE YOU UP SO YOU CAN SEE, I DO, SINCE SHE'S NOT COMPLAINED BY THE TIME HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE AT, I HATE THE IDEA OF DOING THIS. 
          HE JUST GETTING OUT OF RANGE HERE. 
          HE'S CONTINUES TO MAKE NOISE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF Y'ALL EVER HEARD HER HUSBAND, BUT HE HAS ALLOWED PITS. 
          AND HE LIKES TO STAY UP UNTIL THREE OR FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TO CONTINUE HIS PARTY. 
          AFTER THEIR DANCE CLASSES. 
          VERY LOUD FOR ME, THAT IS YOU CAN HEAR HIS VOICE CARRY ACROSS THE STREET TO MY HOUSE. 
          AND I GO IN AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. 
          YEAH, HE, NO, HE IS AN ALARM CLOCK. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO GET HER SOMETHING, LET HER GO TO THE PARK. 
          THERE'S THE PARK RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. 
          IT'S EMPTY. 
          IT'S GOT A, IT'S GOT A, A LITTLE STAGE THERE. 
          HE CAN GO THERE AND TEACH NOT HERE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT Y'ALL LIKED MUSIC. 
          Y'ALL WANT TO DANCE, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE NEIGHBOR, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CORONA VIRUS. 
          AND EVEN AFTER THE CORONA VIRUS, WE NEED OUR REST. 
          AND I'M SERIOUS. 
          I'M GOING TO TAKE Y'ALL'S NAMES DOWN BECAUSE I WILL FIND YOU ON FACEBOOK AND LET YOU KNOW WHEN SHE'S GOT THIS LOUD MUSIC GOING ON, I'LL FIND A PHONE NUMBER FOR YOU. 
          I'D LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO HEAR ALL OF THIS. 
          I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN SENT VIDEOS TO Y'ALL CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU, BOB. 
          YOU THERE? BOBBY YOUNGER. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL WHILE WE'RE U N G E R. 
          GOT IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M HERE. 
          UH, MY NAME IS BOBBY YOUNG OR MY WIFE 
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NAME IS PAM YOUNGER. 
          HE'S AT HOME IN THE BAY BECAUSE FRIDAY SHE WENT TO A PAIN DOCTOR AND GOT FOUR SHOTS. 
          AND THEN NATE, OKAY. 
          THE LADY ON THE DANCE STUDIO, SHE USED TO BE ON THE INSIDE. 
          THAT WAS A LIE. 
          BUT NOW THAT THE COBRA, SHE DOWN MOVED OUTSIDE, HANDSOME STAGES, BE BLED FROM THE BAD FIXED, UM, AND UH, A STAGE FOR THE BAND. 
          THEY BE OUT HERE FROM ASTIA FROM WHEN PAST SIX O'CLOCK SOME NIGHTS TOOK THREE, SOME NIGHTS TO FOUR. 
          YOU CAN'T SLEEP IN THE HOUSE. 
          I SAID LIKE AROUND 10 O'CLOCK YOU TRYING TO LISTEN AT YOUR TV, YOU GOT THE CHINESE GUY. 
          HI, THAT. 
          BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT YOU LISTENING AT. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY COME OUT, I PICK UP, I STAY IN SANTA RITA COURSE ACROSS THE STREET FROM HER. 
          I GET UP IN THE MORNING. 
          I GOT TO PICK UP WINE, BOWELS DEAL BOWELS. 
          AND I MEAN, THEY, I MEAN, THEY COME OVER. 
          THEY'RE LIKE THEY GONE TO A NIGHT CLUE, YOU KNOW? AND I HAVE BEEN OVER THERE AT LEAST ABOUT 12 OR 13 CAN ASK THEM, DO THEY MET AND QUIETENED DOWN BECAUSE YOU GOT PEOPLE SICK AND JOHN ASLEEP. 
          AND THEY ACQUIRED THAT. 
          I HAVE CALLED THE POLICE, THE POLICE COME OUT HERE AND DO SOME KIND OF LITTLE TESTS WITH THE GUN. 
          WELL, ONCE THEY SEE THE POLICE, THEY TURNED THE MUSIC DOWN. 
          THE POLICE, THEY WELL, THEY IN A, NO A ZONE OR WHATEVER RADAR HE SHOOT. 
          HE LEAVE, THEY TURN IT RIGHT BACK UP. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE BEEN HERE EVER SINCE NINE AND ONE. 
          AND SHE'D BEEN HERE PROBABLY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 14 AND 15 YEARS WHEN SHE FIRST CALLED ME. 
          AND SHE WAS REAL LOW KEY, BUT HERE LATELY, I MEAN, AND THEN YOU CAN'T SHOOT AND I'M GLAD THEY CALLED IS NEEDING BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 
          I'M GLAD SOMEBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, BOBBY PAM, PAM YOUNGER. 
          IS SHE AVAILABLE AFTER FRIDAY AND GOT SHOT. 
          OKAY. 
          FROM A DOC. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, FRANCISCO MORENO, PLEASE. 
          FRANCISCO. 
          OKAY. 
          AARON. 
          NICK, ARE YOU THERE? I AM HERE. 
          IT'S KINDA, BUT I'LL TAKE IT. 
          CAN IT, I'M SORRY. 
          THAT'S ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MY NAME IS AARON KIDNAP AND MY FAMILY AND I LIVE TWO DOORS DOWN FROM THE DINA AT 2,509 EAST THIRD. 
          AND MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT OUR HOME ALMOST 16 YEARS AGO NOW, UM, JUST BEFORE MONICA AND GUSTAVO STARTED, UM, BOUGHT THEIR PROPERTY AND STARTED RENOVATING WHAT AT THAT TIME WAS AN EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC VENUE CALLED CHURCH OF THE FRIENDLY GOATS. 
          UM, I, I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT THE CLIMATE BETWEEN WHAT UNIT IS NOW AND WHAT CHURCH OF THE FRIENDLY GHOST WAS, WHICH I'M SURE RUBBLE AND DORIS CAN REMEMBER NOT FONDLY, UM, WAS QUITE DIFFERENT. 
          IT WAS AN EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC VENUE THAT CATERED TO 20 YEAR OLDS. 
          AND THERE WERE DEFINITELY BEER CANS AND OCCASIONAL VOMIT ON THE SIDEWALK FROM NIGHTS THERE. 
          SORRY TO BE, UM, GRAPHIC, BUT IN DEFENSE OF STENA, I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THESE BEER BOTTLES AND WINE BOTTLES ARE COMING FROM ON THE STREET. 
          I WALK MY DOG REGULARLY AND DON'T WITNESS 
          [00:40:01]
THAT. 
          BUT AGAIN, I'M TWO DOORS DOWN, SO MAYBE EVERYBODY'S CLEANING IT UP BEFORE I HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE IT, REGARDLESS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, I WOULD SAY THAT WHEN HE GOT INTO THE SABO HAVE BEEN MODEL NEIGHBORS AND WONDERFUL FRIENDS, UM, AND I THINK THEY'RE DEEPLY COMMITTED TO CREATING A CULTURAL EXPERIENCE THROUGH THE MUSIC AND THE DANCE THAT THEY OFFER THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND IF YOU FOLLOWED THE QUOTE UNQUOTE PROGRESS OF AUSTIN EAST SIDE PARENTS, THAT CULTURE HAS SLOWLY BEEN BULLDOZED AND PAVED OVER, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST 10 YEARS. 
          I THINK I WAS TRYING TO BIG THREE, WHAT JENNIFER MENTIONED IN TERMS OF THE STREET ITSELF AND HOW LONG AND HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR, SO I WOULD SAY THAT MORE THAN 50% OF THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET RIGHT HERE WERE NOT HERE WHEN IT FIRST OPENED ITS DOORS. 
          UM, AND THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO HOW THE EAST SIDE IS CHANGING AND HOW THIS ESSENTIALLY WE LIVE DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW. 
          AND WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE, IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT AS A CONVENIENCE TO LIVING DOWNTOWN OR AN INCONVENIENCE, I THINK WE CAN ALL COME UP WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION. 
          AND AT VARIOUS TIMES, DEPENDING ON HOW IT AFFECTS US, BUT MY RELATIONSHIP WITH A KNOW FROM THE VERY BEGINNING HAS BEEN POSITIVE. 
          I HAVEN'T BEEN IN DANCE CLASSES THERE. 
          I, MY CHILDREN HAVE TAKEN DANCE CLASSES THERE. 
          MONICA HAS BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING TO MY 13 YEAR OLD WHO TAKING DANCE CLASSES ONLINE, WHICH I HAVE TO SAY IS THE WORST WAY TO TAKE A DANCE CLASS. 
          UM, AND SHE HAS OPENED HER DOORS AND LET MY DAUGHTER COME IN ALONE TO PRACTICE IN HER STUDIO, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY GRACIOUS OF HER TO DO THAT. 
          UM, I THINK THAT GIVEN WHERE WE LIVE GIVEN HOW MUCH HAS CHANGED SINCE I HAVE MISSED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND MAYBE I AM PART OF THE PROBLEM. 
          SURE. 
          SOME PEOPLE COULD SAY THAT, UM, WE JUST, WE CHOOSE TO LIVE HERE. 
          WE CHOOSE TO LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS CONSTANT CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE NOISE LEVEL WE TO LIVE AROUND. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE, THANK YOU. 
          IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN IS TO LIVE HERE FOR LOTS OF DIFFERENT REASONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          W WOULD THAT BE A TIME? YES, I'LL JUST STOP HIM WHEN IT'S THREE MINUTES. 
          THREE MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND CAN YOU, UM, RENA SHRADER, PLEASE. 
          HI, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I'M REENA SCHRADER AND MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE NEARBY, UM, ON THIRD STREET, JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE SKIN OF TANGO. 
          UM, AND I KIND OF REFLECT WHAT, UH, AARON IS STATING. 
          WE MOVED HERE IN 2013 AND, UM, THE FAMILY LIVED DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO US, HAD PARTIES EVERY NIGHT UNTIL THE SUNRISE. 
          AND I JUST KNEW THAT WHEN WE ARRIVED INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE MOVING INTO. 
          AND IT WAS PART OF THE CULTURE HERE. 
          AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT A SKINO TONDO IS, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S AN ECLECTIC NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND I DO NOT RECALL ANYBODY COMING AND COMPLAINING ABOUT ALL OF THE PEOPLE PARTYING AND THEIR CARS WITH THEIR HEAVY BOOM BOXES PLAYING UNTIL 5:00 AM. 
          SO WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THE OF TONGA HAS CURATED SOME AWESOME MUSIC AND, UM, THEY'RE PROVIDING INCOME FOR MUSICIANS AND DANCERS AND ENTERTAINERS THAT WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW. 
          AND WE'RE, WE'RE LIVING THROUGH UNPRECEDENTED TIMES AND WE NEED TO HAVE SOME PATIENCE AND, UM, JUST GIVING A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE TO GIVE, TO ALLOW OTHER PEOPLE TO SURVIVE. 
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AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, NATE, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE MUSIC. 
          UM, I THINK WHAT THEY DO IS PROFESSIONAL. 
          IT'S DONE WELL. 
          I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY WINE BOTTLES OR CANS OF BEER ANYWHERE. 
          SO I, SAME THING. 
          I DON'T HAVE A DOG, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM. 
          UM, BUT IT IS WE'RE YEAH, WE ARE, WE'RE IN THE EAST SIDE AND THIS IS A DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT HAS A GREAT, IT HAS A GREAT SPIRIT OVER HERE THAT INCLUDES MUSIC AND AN ART AND, AND I'M OKAY WITH HOW THIS IS. 
          AND I LIVE JUST A FEW HOUSES DOWN. 
          I NEVER HEARD ANY KIND OF DISTURBANCE OR NOISE OR ANYTHING THAT WAS, UM, OUT OF THE ORDINARY. 
          SO, UM, I, I DON'T REALLY KNOW. 
          UM, I'M, I'M JUST, I THINK A SKIN OF TONGA IS A, THEY'RE A GREAT NEIGHBOR. 
          THERE'VE BEEN RESPECTFUL. 
          UM, DO SAVO AND MONICA ALWAYS COME AND ASK US IF, IF, IF WE'VE HEARD ANYTHING OR IF ANYTHING HAS BEEN DISTURBING AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S I NEVER HAD ANYTHING THAT HAD THAT. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, LET'S SEE HERE. 
          UM, IRENE DUELING, DUELING I'M HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          HI, MY NAME IS IRENE DUELING AND I LIVED AT 26, 11 EAST THIRD, UM, WHICH IS ABOUT ONE AND A HALF BLOCKS DOWN THE STREET FROM US, GHANA TANGO TO THE EAST. 
          AND MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED HERE SINCE 2009 AND HAVE RAISED TWO KIDS WHO ARE NOW SIX AND EIGHT. 
          AND OVER THE YEARS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE CHOSE TO LIVE IN WITH ITS PROXIMITY TO DOWNTOWN IT'S PROXIMITY, TO CULTURE, PROXIMITY TO BUSINESSES. 
          WE ACTUALLY WANTED TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD EVEN MORE BUSINESSES JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THE KIND OF PLACE WE WANTED TO RAISE OUR FAMILY. 
          SINCE OUR KIDS WERE BORN, THEY'VE PROBABLY GONE ON TWO TO THREE WALKS FIRST, HOLDING OUR BABIES AND PUSHING THEM IN STROLLERS AND TODDLING ALONG WITH THEM. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE WALKS A DAY, SORRY. 
          UM, MORE RECENTLY WE'VE ADDED BICYCLES, ET CETERA. 
          IT'S GETTING TO TANGO HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LANDMARK ON ALL OF OUR WALKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THERE'S THIS WONDERFUL BRIGHTLY COLORED INSTITUTION THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE, PROBABLY TAUGHT MY KIDS EVEN ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHERE THEIR HOUSE IS IN PROXIMITY TO EVERYTHING, JUST BECAUSE IT WAS JUST AS BEAUTIFUL PLACE. 
          UM, SINCE I CAN REMEMBER, MY KIDS HAVE BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT A SKIN TINGLE WAS AND HAVE LOVED THE FREEDOM THAT THEY'VE HAD TO FEEL SAFE AND WELCOME AT AS COMMUNITY SPACES, BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE, THEY HAVE A GREAT LITTLE SECRET PATHWAY THAT THEY GO THROUGH. 
          THEY PRACTICE INDEPENDENCE WALKING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AROUND MONICA AND I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH US WALKING ON THEIR PROPERTY. 
          UM, WE HAVE USED THE MUSIC, COSTUME SIGNAGE FOR MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS ON CULTURAL LANGUAGE, GEOGRAPHY, COMMUNITY BUSINESSES, AS THE KIDS HAVE GOTTEN OLDER. 
          WE'VE USED IT AS TO SAY, WHY ARE PEOPLE USING SEEING SPANISH? WHY ARE PEOPLE PEEK SPEAKING, PORTUGUESE? WHAT'S THAT INSTRUMENT? WHY ARE THEY WEARING FLAMENCO DRESSES? AND IT'S BEEN THIS WONDERFUL CONVERSATION TO TEACH OUR KIDS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE SEEN IF THEY GREW UP IN A REALLY SORT OF MONOGAMOUS HOMOGENOUS NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THAT DIDN'T HAVE BUSINESSES AND CULTURE SORT OF FILLING OUT ON THE SIDEWALK, UM, PLUS THE EVENTS, UM, TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO, UM, RIGHT, LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT, TRYING TO READ ON MY COMPUTER. 
          UM, THESE CONVERSATIONS HAVE MULTIPLIED SINCE THE PANDEMIC, AS WE CAN HEAR THE MUSIC AS WE PASS BY AND BETTER SEE THAT PEOPLE PLUS THESE EVENTS ARE BEFORE THEIR BEDTIME. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SIT ON THE SIDEWALK AND WATCH THEM AT TIMES WHEN WE CAN'T PARTICIPATE MONICA AND ALL THE ATTENDEES AND ARTISTS AND VOLUNTEERS HAS ALWAYS BEEN FRIENDLY AND OPEN AS NEIGHBORS AND HAS ALWAYS HAD AN OPEN DOOR. 
          IF YOU HAD A QUESTION THAT ORGANIZATION DOES AN IMPECCABLE JOB KEEPING THE CYCLE TRACK, WHICH IS LIKE THE BIKE TRACK RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESS, WHICH USED TO BE A SIDEWALK THAT THEY HAD TO GIVE UP TO HAVE A CYCLE TRACKS, PUT IT IN BY THE CITY. 
          AND THEY'VE ALWAYS KEPT IT CLEAR AND THE FRONT OF THE SPACE. 
          AND THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL GARDEN GARDEN THAT HAS ALWAYS BROUGHT LIKE GREAT CURIOSITY. 
          I'M SURE TO OTHER NEIGHBORS, UM, MY CHILDREN, PEOPLE WALKING BY IN THE CYCLE TRACK AND SHE DOES A WONDERFUL JOB CLEANING THAT AREA CLEAN. 
          I'VE NEVER HAD TO REPORT BROKEN GLASS OR ANYTHING THERE WHERE IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, TWO BLOCKS UP. 
          WE'RE CONSTANTLY REPORTING, BROKEN GLASS ON THE SIDEWALKS AND IN, UM, THE CYCLE TRACKS THREE MINUTES ARE UP. 
          UM, NO, I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH, YOU HIT THREE MINUTES. 
          OH MY GOODNESS. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS TALKING. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, IRENE FOR THAT. 
          UM, 
          [00:50:01]
IT IS TISA LEGGETT. 
          ARE YOU COMING, COMING BACK SPEAKING FROM, IS THAT, OR IS THAT A SCRATCH OUT KIMBERLY? THAT STILL WASN'T SHE SPOKE EARLIER, RIGHT? SHE DID SPEAK EARLIER ON A SPECIFIC ITEM. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT YOU'D ALSO BE SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM. 
          I THINK THE NEXT SPEAKER WAS IRENE DUELING AND THEN, UM, TESA ALREADY SPOKE AND LISA WAS, AND THEN AFTER THAT, HIS ROLE ALVAREZ. 
          OKAY. 
          RAUL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, THANK YOU, UM, FOR YOUR SERVICE. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, MY NAME'S , I AM AN EAST SIDE RESIDENCE, UH, NOT A NEIGHBOR OF HIS KINA, BUT I LIVE ON KNOWLEDGE, UH, CLOSER TO A PARTY THAT I WAS, UH, UM, PART OF THE GROUP ON . 
          AND ACTUALLY THIS YEAR WE'LL BE CELEBRATING AND SOME WAY, I GUESS, THAT I LIVE AT 90TH ANNIVERSARY. 
          SO STAY TUNED FOR DETAILS ABOUT THOSE FESTIVITIES. 
          I ALSO REPRESENT A NONPROFIT CALLED EAST SIDE GUARDIANS THAT PROVIDES PROPERTY TAX ASSISTANCE TO LONGTIME EAST SIDE FAMILIES. 
          UH, IN ADDITION TO ADDRESSING ECONOMIC AND RACIAL DIVERSITY, OUR ORGANIZATION ALSO AIMS TO HELP PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE CULTURAL, HISTORICAL AND LEGACY BUSINESSES OF EAST STOCKTON. 
          UH, I FEEL THE ARTISTIC AND CULTURAL ELEMENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NO LESS IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE THAN HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. 
          SO THAT'S DEFINITELY ONE OF THE ANGLES THAT I'M COMING AT THIS FROM. 
          UM, I'M HERE TO SPEAK AS SUPPORTIVE AS SKEENA AS AN IMPORTANT CULTURAL ASSET OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT'S IT'S STUFF JUST SPEAK BEFORE KIND OF SEEING THE PRESENTATIONS FROM MS. DINA AND FROM STAFF. 
          UM, CAUSE IF THERE IS SOME KIND OF SOLUTION THAT'S GOING TO BE DISCUSSED, I CERTAINLY WOULD WANT TO KIND OF SPEAK IN, IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I'LL PROCEED WITH KIND OF THE LIMITED INFORMATION. 
          UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK GUSTAVO AND THEIR FAMILY ARE, AS WE SAY IN MY KIND OF CULTURE AND WE WANT TO HINT, THEY'RE VERY GOOD PEOPLE. 
          THEY ARE WELL-MEANING PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD TO ADJUST TO NEW CONDITIONS, BROUGHT ON BY THE PANDEMIC. 
          THEY HAVE ADJUSTED AS BEST AS THEY'VE BEEN ABLE, GIVEN CURRENT LIMITATIONS. 
          IF DINA'S DRUGS, ME LIKE MANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, BUSINESSES, AND NONPROFITS, AND WHEN THE NEIGHBORS AND NEEDS, THEN WE SHOULD HELP THEM OUT. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN IDEAS THAT DRIVE OUR WORK WITH EAST SIDE GUARDIANS IS NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS. 
          OF COURSE THERE ARE LIMITS TO WHAT WE CAN ALLOW, BUT WE SHOULD TRY TO DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS GET THROUGH ROUGH PATCHES. 
          WHEN THOSE ROUGH PATCHES PRESENT THEMSELVES, WE'RE A CREATIVE TOWN. 
          SO LET'S GET CREATIVE ABOUT HELPING FOLKS SURVIVE. 
          THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, IT'S EASY TO BE AGAINST SOMETHING IT'S MUCH HARDER TO BE SOLUTIONS ORIENTED. 
          THINGS WILL GO BACK TO NORMAL IN A FEW MONTHS. 
          AND WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEIGHBORS NOT JUST TO COME BACK THE SAME, BUT COME BACK STRONGER. 
          A CRISIS RESPONSE REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE EACH OTHER'S BACKS TO GET THROUGH EMERGENT CRISES AND, AND HAVING EACH OTHER'S BACK THEN OUR RELATIONSHIP IS STRENGTHENED. 
          AND WHEN THE CRISIS SUBSIDES, WE COME BACK STRONGER BECAUSE OUR RELATIONSHIPS ARE STRONGER. 
          SO AS A COMMISSION, PLEASE DO WHAT YOU CAN TO HELP NONPROFITS SURVIVE AT A CITY STAFF. 
          PLEASE DO WHAT YOU CAN TO HELP NONPROFITS SURVIVE. 
          AND AS NEIGHBORS LET'S ALL DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP NONPROFITS SURVIVE. 
          THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE HIRED EACH OTHER IN THE PROCESS, RIGHT. 
          BUT WE MUST BE THOUGHTFUL AND CAREFUL, BUT WE CAN'T GIVE UP ON EACH OTHER. 
          WE CAN'T GIVE UP TRYING. 
          I THINK THERE'S A SOLUTION HERE. 
          SO, UM, SHORT-TERM AND LONGTERM, I, THERE NEEDS TO BE A SOLUTION TO IT. 
          LET'S JUST STICK WITH IT FOR A FEW MORE MONTHS. 
          LET'S BE PATIENT AND SUPPORTIVE. 
          UM, I HEARD ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS TALK ABOUT MAYBE USING THE HILLSIDE IN SOME WAYS THE THREE MINUTES IS FLORIDA, WHATEVER IDEAS ANYONE HAS, LET'S EXPLORE AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THEM. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, RYAN LOWERY, UH, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? OKAY. 
          AND SO, OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO MY NAME IS RYAN LOWERY. 
          I'M A PEDIATRICIAN IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          ALSO A NEIGHBOR OF THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IS KINDA THING. 
          AND I'M SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AS A NEIGHBOR AND NOT ON BEHALF OF ANY OF THE ORGANIZATIONS I WORK FOR. 
          UM, MY WIFE AND I LIVE JUST A FEW HOUSES DOWN THE BLOCK FROM ESKIN AT TANGO, AND WE'VE NEVER BEEN NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY THE NOISE FROM THE PERFORMANCES OR EVENING EVENTS WHEN THEY WERE STILL HAPPENING. 
          UM, MY WIFE AND I SPECIFICALLY SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN OUR BACKYARD AND WHEN EVENING 
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EVENTS WERE STILL HAPPENING, WE RARELY NOTICED THE NOISE IS ANYTHING DIFFERENT FROM THE NORMAL LEVEL OF NEIGHBORHOOD NOISE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE LIVE IN, WE LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDED BY BARS, RESTAURANTS, CONSTRUCTION, AND LOCATED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE TRAIN TRACKS. 
          SO REALLY ANY ADDITIONAL NOISE IS SIMPLY ADDING TO THE NOISE LEVEL THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I'D ALSO LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE IMPORTANCE OF SUSTAINING NONPROFIT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE ESCAPING THE TANGO. 
          I THINK THERE'S AN OBVIOUS NEED TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER TO PROMOTE HEALTHY OUTLETS IN A PERIOD OF TIME, LIKE WE'RE LIVING, IT'S ESSENTIAL TO RECOGNIZE THAT MENTAL WELLNESS OF INDIVIDUALS IS DEPENDENT ON BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN HEALTHY, ACTIVE OUTLETS, SUCH AS ATTENDING A CULTURALLY EDUCATIONAL DANCE CLASS OR CONCERT LIKE THOSE PROVIDED BY ESKIN AT TANGO. 
          FINALLY, I WANT TO COMMENT ON HOW THOUGHTFULLY THE STAFF AND ORGANIZERS AND SKIN OF TANGO HAVE SET UP THEIR OUTDOOR CONCERT AND CLASS STAGES AND PLATFORMS IN A SOCIALLY DISTANCE MANNER. 
          THE MASK WEARING AN OUTDOOR SETUP HELP CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT PROMOTES INDIVIDUAL SAFETY IN A GROUP SETTING. 
          AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF BARS AND RESTAURANTS IN AUSTIN, WHICH ARE BY COMPARISON FUNCTIONING IN A VERY UNSAFE MANNER. 
          IT ARE ALLOWED TO REMAIN OPEN IN ORDER TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES. 
          I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT ORGANIZATIONS WHO HELP GENERATE A HEALTHY SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND PROMOTE CULTURAL COMPETENCY ARE ABLE TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          AND FOR THIS REASON I SUPPORT THE EFFORTS MADE BY . 
          THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, RYAN. 
          UH, MEET WITH, WHY ARE YOU THERE? YES, I'M HERE. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          YES. 
          UH, I AM, I MEAN, IT'S FUNNY. 
          I SERVE ON A FEW BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ON THE CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND I'VE SPENT 20 YEARS WORKING IN NONPROFITS HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND I'M NOT HERE IN ANY OF THOSE CAPACITIES, BUT RATHER AS A CONSUMER, UH, OF MUSIC AND CULTURE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS FOR OVER A QUARTER CENTURY. 
          AND THOUGH THAT MAY MAKE ME SOUND OLDER THAN I AM. 
          I REALLY HAVE SEEN NOTHING LIKE THE SKEENA TANGO IN AS MUCH AS A VENUE, A PLACE OR AN INSTITUTION THAT BRINGS TOGETHER SO MUCH HEALING, MUSIC, CULTURE, MOVEMENT, INSTRUCTION, DIVERSITY FAMILY. 
          IT'S JUST AN INTERSECTION OF SO MANY OF THE VALUES THAT WE CERTAINLY BELIEVE IN. 
          AND OFTEN WE DON'T DO AS GOOD OF A JOB REPRESENTING AS WE MIGHT LIKE TO SAY WE DO. 
          AND IT'S CERTAINLY UNFORTUNATE THAT AN INSTITUTION OR A VENUE LIKE THIS CAN CREATE INCONVENIENCES FOR NEIGHBORS. 
          AND I THINK AS PREVIOUS SPEAKERS HAVE MENTIONED, IT'S AN UNFORTUNATE CONSEQUENCE OF THE STATUS QUO OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND REALLY JUST THE GENERAL LEVEL OF SOUND AND ACTIVITY THAT ARE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          OF COURSE, THERE'S A BREWERY JUST RIGHT UP THE STREET AROUND THE CORNER. 
          UH, THERE IS AN A BAR AGAIN, ANOTHER BLOCK DOWN AND THE SCHEME, THE TANGLE WAS AS WAS MENTIONED, THE CHURCH OF THE FRIENDLY GHOST BEFORE, WHERE I'M SURE THAT THE FAMILIES WERE HEARING HEAVY METAL, UH, AND, AND SIMILAR MUSIC, NOTHING AGAINST NECESSARILY HEAVY METAL MUSIC. 
          UM, BUT IT'S LIKELY MORE PERVASIVE INTO THE HOUSEHOLD. 
          AND I THINK THAT IN THE ABSENCE OF HIS KEEN AT TANGO, WHATEVER ELSE MIGHT BE, THERE MIGHT STILL BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE INCONVENIENCING, YOU KNOW, THE TWO NEIGHBORS, UH, THAT, THAT SEEMED TO BE FREQUENTLY SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THESE CHALLENGES. 
          AND I THINK FOR THE COMMUNITY VALUE THAT THIS ORGANIZATION BRINGS THAT WE SHOULD REALLY, REALLY BE ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO COME TOGETHER AND FIND A SOLUTION, UH, INSTEAD OF LOSING THIS INSTITUTION, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE CONSTRUCT A SOUND BARRIER THAT CAN WORK? HOW CAN WE COME TOGETHER AND FIND OUT IN AGREEMENT AROUND DAYS AND TIMES AND CREATE SORT OF HARD STIPULATIONS AROUND THAT? BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING REALLY SEEMS TO BE A GRUDGE FROM PRE PANDEMIC 
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DAYS WHEN SKEENA WAS OPERATING AS AN INDOOR INSTITUTION, UH, AND FOLKS WERE MAYBE UNNECESSARY OR MAYBE UNHAPPY WITH THAT. 
          UH, I HAVE ATTENDED ONE OF THE EVENING, UH, PERFORMANCES THAT OCCURRED, UH, WHEN, AS KINA DID SET UP THEIR INNOVATIVE PLATFORMS. AND I WAS LED OUT AT, UH, 10 AND THE MUSIC STOPPED AT NINE JUST AS PROMISED. 
          AND THE DECIBEL LEVELS WERE EXACTLY SORT OF WHAT A RESIDENT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLAY FROM THEIR OWN HOMES. 
          UM, BUT JUST DUE TO A TECHNICALITY BECAUSE IT'S KEYNOTE IS A NONPROFIT QUOTE UNQUOTE BUSINESS. 
          THEY AREN'T ABLE TO DO THE SAME THING THAT A RESIDENT IS ABLE TO DO. 
          LET'S GET PAST THIS TECHNICALITY. 
          LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN SOUND LIKE IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, MARTHA RAMOS DEFFER. 
          HEY, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, I AM MARTHA HUMMEL STUFFER, AND I ALSO AM A LONG-TIME NEIGHBOR OF  AND A CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST. 
          AND I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION TONIGHT FIRST TO THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL WORK THAT YOU DO IN OUR CITY. 
          AND SECONDLY, TO TALK ABOUT THE VITAL IMPORTANCE OF IT'S NOT DONE WELL IN OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND SPECIFICALLY FOR MUSICIAN, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT AUSTIN THAT OFTEN HAS HAD TO GRAPPLE WITH FOR A LONG TIME IS THAT TO HAVE A THRIVING LIVE MUSIC CULTURE, WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THE COMPLEXITIES OF COMPETING NEEDS FOR YEARS. 
          IT'S OUR HAS BEEN A PLACE OF CULTURAL GATHERING, SUPPORTING THE ARTS IN MULTIPLE FORMS. AND AGAIN, PARTICULARLY MUSIC PROVIDING REGULAR LIVE MUSIC EVENTS THAT SUPPORT MUSICIANS, BOTH IN TERMS OF DIRECT FINANCIAL SUPPORT, AS WELL AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET NEW FANS AND BUILD THEIR FOLLOWING. 
          WHEN THE PEN DEMEC HIT, IT WAS DEVASTATING FOR ALL OF US IN SO MANY WAYS, INCLUDING US GINA, AS THEY WERE FACING SHUTTING DOWN. 
          THIS WAS A HUGE LOSS FOR ALL THOSE OF US WHO WENT FREQUENTLY TO DEENA, INCLUDING ME. 
          AND I WAS DEEPLY INSPIRED WHEN I SAW HOW IT'S, YOU KNOW, BOARD MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAME TOGETHER AND WITH GREAT EFFORT AND CREATIVITY, WE'RE ABLE TO CRAFT THIS AMAZING OUTDOOR SPACE WITH DISTANCE PLATFORM. 
          I AM SOMEBODY WHO HAS MULTIPLE HIGH RISK CATEGORIES FOR COVID. 
          SO FROM MARCH FOR SIX MONTHS HAD NOT BEEN ABLE TO LEAVE MY HOME. 
          I WAS OVERJOYED WITH RELIEF WITH THIS FIRST CONCERT THAT I WAS ABLE TO GO TO WITH MY SMALL POT OF PEOPLE THAT INCLUDES AN 85 YEAR OLD WOMAN WITH A WHEELCHAIR. 
          AND IT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT WE HAD FOUND THAT WAS SAFE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO GO AND ENJOY LIFE MUSIC. 
          ONCE AGAIN, WE WERE ALL EQUALLY MOVED WITH THE JOY, THE CONNECTION, THE HEALING THAT LIVE MUSIC CAN BRING. 
          AND FOR ME, PARTICULARLY AS A PSYCHOLOGIST, HAVING OBSERVED FOR MY CLIENTS, I HAVE CLIENTS THAT BENEFIT FROM SKEENA EVENTS AND CLASSES, AND I GET TO SEE THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS FOR THEM AS WELL AS EXPERIENCING IT FOR MYSELF. 
          I DO UNDERSTAND, AS A LONG TIME, EAST AUSTIN REV RESIDENT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S RAPIDLY TRANSFORMING, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE INCONVENIENCE OF NEARBY NOISE. 
          PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED THE BARS NEARBY, UM, LESTER, PEARL. 
          I'M STILL AMAZED AT HOW DIFFERENT RULES APPLY TO DIFFERENT VENUES AND COULD BE, YOU KNOW, IS A NON-PROFIT PROVIDING CULTURAL ARTS AND THAT PROVIDES MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH. 
          I HOPE WE CAN SUPPORT THEM. 
          THANK YOU, MARTHA. 
          UM, RACHEL TILT, MAN. 
          YOU GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          UM, YEAH, SO I AM ALSO A NEIGHBOR OF A SKEENA TANGO. 
          I LIVE ON THE SAME BLOCK AS MONICA AND, UH, THIS STUDIO AND, UM, 
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MY PARTNER AND I MOVED HERE TO AUSTIN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. 
          AND TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST, WHEN WE WERE MOVING TO AUSTIN, WE'VE LIVED IN A LOT OF OTHER MAJOR CITIES. 
          WE WERE SO EXCITED TO BE IN THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE COUNTRY. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ACTUALLY LOOKED FOR WAS A MUSIC AND CULTURE THAT WE COULD WALK TO, THAT WE COULD EXPERIENCE THAT, UM, WE COULD REALLY LIVE IN AUSTIN AND EXPERIENCE THAT. 
          AND SO WE WERE THRILLED TO FIND A PLACE ON THIRD STREET. 
          UM, WE'RE JUST A COUPLE DOORS DOWN AND WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, BEFORE COVID, I, ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS WAS SEEING THE LIVELINESS THAT, UH, SKINO TANGO BROUGHT TO OUR STREET TO REALLY MAKE IT COME ALIVE. 
          UM, THE TANGER MUSIC, UH, I SPENT TIME IN THE SOUTH OF SPAIN AND IT REMINDED ME SO MUCH OF THAT, BUT ALSO WITH ITS OWN KIND OF AUSTIN AND MEXICAN AMERICAN FLAIR. 
          UM, AND SO I WAS HUGELY SUPPORTIVE. 
          UM, AND THEN I MET MONICA AND HER KIDS AND THEY ACTUALLY COME OVER AND PLAY WITH MY DOG. 
          SOMETIMES THEY'VE BEEN PHENOMENAL NEIGHBORS. 
          THEY'RE THE FIRST PERSON I CALL WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS OR I NEED HELP. 
          UM, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD COMMUNITY ON THIS BLOCK AND I'VE HEARD SO MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS SPEAK IN SUPPORTIVE MONICA AND HAVE HAD THE SIMILAR EXPERIENCES I HAVE WHERE SHE'S BEEN THOUGHTFUL AND CONSIDERATE. 
          UM, AND SO WHEN COVID HAPPENED, I WAS REALLY WORRIED ABOUT HER BUSINESS AND I KNOW THAT IT WAS A STRUGGLE AND I WAS SO HAPPY THAT THEY FOUND A SOLUTION. 
          UM, AND I ACTUALLY REMEMBER NOT REALIZING THAT THEY HAD FOUND A SOLUTION AND THEN HEARING MUSIC ON OUR STREET AGAIN. 
          AND WHEN I SAY HEARING MUSIC ON OUR STREET, I DON'T MEAN LIKE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, BLASTING LOUD, BUT THAT, OH MY GOSH, LIKE PEOPLE ARE DANCING AGAIN. 
          UM, AND IT'S, AND IT'S DURING NORMAL HOURS. 
          THEY'RE VERY QUIET. 
          UM, I PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WHERE IT'S BEEN UP TOO LATE. 
          I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE RESPECTFUL OF THE TIMES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN ON A FRIDAY OR SATURDAY NIGHT AT 10:00 PM, IT'S DONE. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE ONE EVENT THAT I WENT TO, THEY WERE HANDING OUT MASKS. 
          SO IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE ONE, YOU GOT IN THE  TANGO MASK. 
          SO IN TERMS OF THE SOCIAL DISTANCING, THE RESPECTFULNESS, AND THEN ALSO THE VALUE THEY'RE PROVIDING OUR COMMUNITY, UM, I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE THEIR NEIGHBOR. 
          UH, THEY'RE ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS ABOUT LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AS WELL AS SO MANY OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          SO IF YOU SPEAK TODAY, SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, UM, TO THE CHAIR AND MRS. VICE CHAIR FOR YOUR TIME. 
          UH, AND I'M IN SUPPORT OF MOSQUITO TANGO. 
          THANK YOU, KATE MARTIN, PLEASE. 
          YES. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I AM A NEIGHBOR ALSO, UM, THE SKEENA 10 GOING ON SECOND STREET, JUST AROUND THE CORNER. 
          AND I ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF MONEY KIND OF SKIN OF TANGO FIRST, JUST THAT SHE IS A REALLY WONDERFUL NEIGHBOR. 
          WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR A LONG TIME. 
          UM, AND I'VE RECENTLY GOTTEN TO KNOW HER, UM, FROM HER KIDS GETTING TO KNOW MY DOG AS WE WALK PAST. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO, I REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING IT AS A CULTURAL NEXUS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMETHING SO CLOSE IS VERY UNIQUE. 
          UM, AND ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE COMMENT ON ANYTIME THEY COME TO VISIT ME. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO, I THINK IN THE FEW TIMES THAT I HAVE HEARD MUSIC, IT HAS ONLY BEEN IN OUTSIDE. 
          AND, UM, I MEAN, I WILL SAY I, I LIKED THE KIND OF MUSIC THAT HIS SKIN OF TANGO HAS. 
          SO FOR ME IT FEELS LIKE AN ASSET AND IT HAS NOT BEEN A BOTHER. 
          UM, I EMPATHIZE WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE KEPT UP. 
          I ALSO DO NOT LIKE STAYING UP LATE, SO, BUT I, I REALLY LOVE HAVING A SKIN OF TANGO IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO I AM VERY HOPEFUL AND IN SUPPORT OF FINDING A SOLUTION THAT WILL WORK TO KEEP THE SKIN OF TINGLE OPEN AND THE NEIGHBORS FEELING LIKE THEY'RE GETTING THEIR NEEDS MET. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, UH, NICK BERSIN IS AN A MAN. 
          I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE WITH THIS, UH, HAVE TO SING THOSE ITALIAN. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, UH, MUSIC COMMISSION. 
          YOU ARE DOING THE LORD'S WORK TONIGHT. 
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I MEAN, I AM SO IMPRESSED BY ALL OF THESE SPEAKERS FROM THE DIVERSE POINTS OF VIEW, BUT I'M REALLY GLAD TO BE HERE TO TALK FROM THE ARTIST'S POINT OF VIEW. 
          I AM THE ARTISTIC DIRECTOR FOR AUSTIN SHAKESPEARE, AND WE HAVE COLLABORATED WITH ESKENAZI TANGO. 
          ON A NUMBER OF TIMES, WE DID A WONDERFUL SPANISH ENGLISH, A SERIES OF POEMS BY GARCIA LORCA. 
          AND IN OCTOBER, WE ACTUALLY DID USE THIS SPACE THAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT. 
          UH, BRANDING IT AT NIGHT CLUB IS VERY ODD TO ME. 
          IT IS REALLY A MAGICAL SPACE. 
          SO I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST MY CLUBS. 
          WE ALL ENJOY THAT, BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT IT'S GOING TO TANGO IS. 
          AND WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT MONICA. 
          LIKE IT'S HER. 
          SHE REPRESENTS HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE, NOT JUST DANCERS, CHILDREN, FAMILIES. 
          WHEN WE DID OUR PIECE IN OCTOBER, UH, WE HAD OLDER PEOPLE COMING IN AND YOU ONLY HAVE 40 PEOPLE. 
          THAT'S THE LIMIT. 
          AND YOU COULD ONLY HAVE FOUR PERSONS ON A PLATFORM. 
          IT'S VERY SAFE. 
          EVERYBODY GOT THEIR TEMPERATURES TAKEN. 
          OKAY. 
          I WILL TELL YOU MONICA, HIS CHILDREN TOOK THE TEMPERATURE, BUT THEY LOOKED AT THE TEMPERATURES AND MY AUDIENCE, UH, MERGED WITH MONICA'S AUDIENCE THERE. 
          AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. 
          AND WE WERE ABLE TO PAY PERFORMERS TO DO THAT. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO COVER OUR COSTS. 
          IT'S JUST A STRANGE IDEA HERE TO TRY TO FIGURE A SOLUTION OUT TO THIS PROBLEM. 
          I UNDERSTAND IT. 
          IT'S A DILEMMA, BUT USE THE COMMISSION. 
          YOU ARE THERE TO HELP US KEEP ALIVE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO. 
          SO I URGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT HOW TO CONTINUE THIS WORK IN A WAY THAT WILL SATISFY THE PROBLEMS OF SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS. 
          YOU'VE HEARD FROM MANY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE VERY HAPPY. 
          AND I THINK MONICA IS A REALLY REASONABLE PERSON. 
          I AM GOING TO TELL YOU, I ACTUALLY TAUGHT HER AT ST. 
          EDWARD'S UNIVERSITY AND SHE WAS IN MY ARTS ADMINISTRATION CLASS. 
          AND SHE TOLD ME SHE HAD THIS IDEA FOR THIS CROSS CULTURAL PLACE. 
          AND I SAID, MONICA, IT'S TOO DIFFICULT. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT SHE DID IT. 
          SO I AM SO PROUD OF HER AND PROUD OF ALL THE WORK THAT EVERYONE THERE AS GOOD AS TANGO IS DOING. 
          WE NEED A TEMPORARY SOLUTION. 
          LET ME TELL YOU, AUSTIN SHAKESPEARE HAS BEEN 37 YEARS OF PLAYS IN ZILKER PARK. 
          IT IS NOT EASY TO SAY TO MONICA, JUST GO DOWN THE BLOCK TO THE PARK. 
          THAT'S NOT AS EASY AS YOU THINK IT IS. 
          AND I THINK SHE'S A REASONABLE PERSON. 
          I THINK SHE WILL WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN WE WERE THERE. 
          WE ENDED AT NINE 30. 
          SHE KEPT TELLING US TO KEEP THE MUSIC DAMN WELL. 
          WE WERE TESTING THE MUSIC IF IT GOT TOO LOUD. 
          SO SHE'S A CULTURAL ACT ASSET AND A GOOD NEIGHBOR. 
          SO I URGE YOU AND I'M GOING TO END BEFORE THREE MINUTES. 
          AREN'T YOU HAPPY? WELL, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ALL RIGHT, RAY RPA. 
          RAY, ARE YOU THERE? HEY, JAY RAMEAU RAMEAU OKAY. 
          HI, MRS. UH, MRS. AJA GARCIA, HORMO. 
          UM, I AM THE ARTISTIC DIRECTOR OF VENTANA BALI HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          UM, I'VE WORKED WITH MONICA INGLIS TAVO AND A AT TANGO FOR A FEW YEARS. 
          NOW WE DO A NUTCRACKER EVERY YEAR, UM, AT THE NEIL COCHRAN HOUSE MUSEUM WHERE WE BRING TOGETHER DIFFERENT CULTURAL GROUPS, UM, AND THEY GET TO REPRESENT, UH, THE TANGO FORMAT FOR US. 
          AND IT'S BEEN REALLY NICE TO WORK WITH SUCH A PROFESSIONAL, UH, GROUP OF FOLKS. 
          UM, WE TOO ARE A NONPROFIT AND, UH, WORKING TO WORKING THROUGH THE PANDEMIC TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT'S PAIR OUR ARTISTS AND ALSO BRING ART TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, I'M ALSO A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND YOU SAW SENT DOWN THE STREETS, UM, AT FIRST STREET STUDIO. 
          UM, AND SO I DON'T PERSONALLY KNOW THE NEIGHBORS, UH, WHO SPOKE TONIGHT AND, AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING, UM, YOUR EXPERIENCES. 
          UM, I HAVE MET A FEW ALONG MY BIKE ROUTES TO THE STUDIO. 
          UM, I GO THERE ABOUT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND, UM, YEAH, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT, I MEAN, SUPPORTIVE IS KING OF TANGO BECAUSE THEY BRING SUCH AN IMPORTANT CULTURAL ASPECT OF THE CITY AND, AND WORKING WITH THEM HAS BEEN NOT ONLY AN HONOR, BUT, UM, A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR SUCH A SMALL BALLET COMPANY TO COME INTO THE CITY. 
          UM, I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 14 YEARS AND I PERSONALLY LIVE NEAR A 
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MUSIC VENUE, UH, HERE IN NEW SAUCE AND NEXUS THE HARA LOUNGE. 
          SO I CAN, UM, CERTAINLY EMPHASIZE WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UM, ON, ON, ON THINGS LIKE THIS. 
          UM, BUT I DID WANT TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH SUCH A PROFESSIONAL GROUP OF FOLKS, UM, WHOSE IMPORTANCE OF FAMILY AND CULTURE AND BRINGING PAYMENT TO ARTISTS, TO MUSICIANS AND DANCERS, UM, AND BEYOND IS SO I'M AT THE FOREFRONT, UM, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO BRINGING THAT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE LINE ON OUR MISSIONS. 
          AND IT'S SUCH A DIFFICULTY IN NORMAL TIMES, UM, ESPECIALLY DURING PANDEMIC TIMES TO BE CRAFTY AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW NOT TO ONLY KEEP YOUR BUSINESS RUNNING, BUT ALSO TO, TO KEEP THOSE ARTISTS PAID. 
          UH, WHEN WE DID A COLLABORATION WITH A SCAN OF CONGO IN NOVEMBER OF THIS PAST YEAR, UM, WE TOO WERE OUT OF THERE, UM, BY NINE, NINE 30. 
          UM, WE BROUGHT A CELLIST ON SITE AND WE HAD SOME LIVE MUSIC AND IT WAS REALLY NICE EXPERIENCE WHERE FOLKS GOT TO ARRIVE AND, UM, PUT THE TEMPERATURE IS CHECKED AND THEY WEAR THEIR MASKS. 
          AND THERE WAS NOTHING, UM, SHORT OF, OF PRAISE AND GRATITUDE FOR, YOU KNOW, BRINGING MUSIC AND DANCE TO PEOPLE DURING SUCH A DIFFICULT TIME. 
          UM, AND LIKE I SAID, I, I EMPATHIZE COMPLETELY WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND I, AND I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH THE SKEENA AGAIN AND, AND THE MUSIC COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, THANKS FOR HEARING US ALL OUT. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY A WAY, LIKE I SAID, FOR ARTISTS TO WORK TOGETHER TO BE CRAFTY, LIKE, AS WE ARE, I MEAN, THAT'S OUR NORMAL TIME, UM, TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION THAT WOULD MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL WELCOMED AND, AND FULFILLED. 
          SO THANKS FOR HAVING ME. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I BELIEVE THAT IS IT. 
          I THINK IT'S TUESDAY. 
          JUST KIDDING. 
          Y'ALL I HOPE EVERYBODY, UH, EVERYBODY HEARD ALL THE DIFFERENT SIDES OF IT. 
          UM, ISSUES, VERY COMPLEX. 
          WE'RE ALL HUMAN. 
          WE'RE VERY COMPLEX IN THAT STRAIGHT TO, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE THIS SPACE TO BE ABLE TO, TO SHARE OUR THOUGHTS. 
          UM, I THINK WE HAVE, UH, MONICA, IS SHE GOING TO SPEAK AT HIS TIME OR ARE WE, ARE WE, WHERE ARE WE? WHERE, WHERE ARE WE GOING NEXT? YEAH, I THINK MONICA AND ALSO, AND THEN BRIAN BLOCK FROM THE CITY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. 
          SO MONICA, WHEN I GET YOU ALSO GET THREE MINUTES AS WELL, AND AM I CORRECT KIM ON THAT? MONICA IS A PRESENTER. 
          SO THE THREE MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          WE SHOULD GET OUT OF HERE BY MIDNIGHT COWS BACK. 
          JUST KIDDING. 
          EVERYBODY'S GETTING HI. 
          THANK YOU EVERYBODY. 
          FOR, FOR, FOR HAVING ME, UM, I'M REPRESENTING A SKIN AT TANGO, UM, NONPROFIT, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME. 
          UM, I, I'M NOT PLANNING ON TALKING FOR A VERY LONG, UM, UM, I KNOW THAT WE WERE HERE LAST MONTH. 
          UM, AND SO THIS PRESENTATION, I MEAN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT THINGS THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW, UM, ABOUT, UH, AND YOU HEARD ABOUT THE NONPROFIT, UM, ABOUT HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN HERE, UH, AND ABOUT THE KIND OF SERVICES WE PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE DIVERSITY AND, YOU KNOW, THE AGE RANGE THAT, THAT, THAT WE HAVE. 
          UM, HOW DO I SAY TO CHANGE THE PAGE? THEY CHANGE THE PAGE. 
          YOU'RE GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SORRY. 
          SO YEAH, SO YEAH, SO VERY QUICKLY. 
          SO WE WORK AS, YEAH, I THINK YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS STORY. 
          WE WERE CLOSED LIKE MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND IN, IN EARLY MARCH LAST YEAR, WE WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, CLOSE FOR, FOR OVER SIX MONTHS. 
          WE WERE THE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN CHANGE THE PAGE. 
          UM, WE WERE, UM, THANK YOU. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ADAPT AND I UNDERSTAND LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BEEN TRYING TO ADAPT. 
          EVERYBODY'S STRUGGLING IS IT IS A VERY HARD YEAR THAT NEVER ENDS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN DOING ONLINE CLASSES AND ONLINE EVENTS TO TRY TO KEEP IT TOGETHER FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE MUSICIANS AND FOR US, FOR EVERYBODY TO SURVIVE THROUGH THIS, UH, THIS TIME. 
          UM, SO IF YOU CAN CHANGE THE PAGE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE HAD WORKED REALLY HARD ON ADAPTING AND YES, WE DID ADAPT AGAIN IN THE SUMMER. 
          WE STARTED TO PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO HOW TO CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT OUTSIDE THE TEMPORARY ONE. 
          UM, UM, THAT, THAT I NEVER 
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THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          I NEVER THOUGHT OF WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO INDIVIDUAL SOCIAL INDIVIDUAL DANCE PLATFORM BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DANCE TOGETHER. 
          SO DEFINITELY THIS WAS A TEMPORARY MEASURE TO STAY SAFE AND WE HAD AN ENGINEER BUILD IT OR COME UP WITH THE MEASUREMENTS AND SO FORTH AND TRY TO MAKE, DO, TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT, TRY TO, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL HAPPENING SO QUICKLY WHERE WE'RE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT A FEED OR TRYING TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR THESE TIMES YOU CAN CHANGE THE PAGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, SO, UM, SO THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE SPACING LOOKS LIKE, UM, WHEN WE WERE HAVING CLASSES, UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A FULL SCHEDULE, BUT THIS IS THERE A COUPLE OF THE CLASSES, UM, AS YOU CAN CHANGE THE PAGE. 
          UM, SO, SO YEAH, I DID LISTEN TO THE NEIGHBORS AND, YOU KNOW, AND I HAVE GONE, I UNDERSTAND TOTALLY. 
          I, AND I APOLOGIZE IF WE WERE NOT, YOU KNOW, BEING SENSITIVE, UM, TO THE NEEDS. 
          UM, I DEFINITELY HAVE, YOU KNOW, TALKED TO JENNIFER AND ERIC AND , AND I, AND I WOULD LOVE TO KEEP TALKING TO KEEP TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS RIGHT NOW. 
          WE ALSO, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO ALL WITHIN THE RESPONSIBLE SIDE, WE ARE NOT EVEN HAVING CLASSES BECAUSE OF THE LEVELS OF COVID. 
          SO WE DID MEET SINCE MID DECEMBER. 
          WE, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING ALSO BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, BESIDES OTHER STUFF GOING ON, BUT YEAH, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN LITTLE DEVICES FOR THE SILENT DISCO. 
          I I'VE PURCHASED A SOUND DECIBEL, A LITTLE THINGY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME THINGS THAT WE WANT TO TRY AS THE SOUND BARRIER. 
          I WANT TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORK HARDER TO, YOU KNOW, TO REALLY DO THAT TIME LIMITS AND THE FREQUENCY OF EVENTS. 
          UM, AND YET, YOU KNOW, AND WE WORK REALLY HARD TO FIND A SOLUTION WITHIN OUR SPACE. 
          WE HAVE A SPACE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE EXPENSES HERE THAT ALREADY HAPPENING. 
          SO, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, AND WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, AGAIN, TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER. 
          WE ARE LOOKING AT A SPACE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THE SANDBAR, THAT CLASS, WHERE THERE'S LIKE DRUMMING AND IT'S ALL ACOUSTIC. 
          IT IS EASY TO TAKE IT TO A PARK. 
          AND THAT WAS ONLY ONCE A MONTH THAT WAS HAPPENING. 
          SOME OTHER THINGS, UM, IT'S HARDER THAN, YOU KNOW, SETTING UP AND MAKING A LOT OF WORK AND OTHER STAFF AND THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE, WE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE, WE ARE WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS. 
          IT IS IMPORTANT TO, TO US. 
          UH, SO, YOU KNOW, SO WHY WE'RE URGING IS TO YES, TO, FOR THE CDE TO FIND A WAY SO WE CAN QUITE EXIST SO WE CAN FIND A TEMPORARY SOLUTION, UM, UNTIL IT'S SAFE AGAIN, TO HELP HOLD THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IN THE DANCING AND, AND, AND THAT'S MAKES IT A LITTLE HARDER TO BE ENDORSED BY NOW. 
          UM, I THINK THERE'S MAYBE ONE MORE PAGE, BUT MAYBE NOT ONE, IS THERE ANOTHER PAGE? UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS BEEN CREATIVE WHEN IT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THIS CRAZY PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN FROZEN MARGARITAS TO GO, WHICH IS DEFINITELY NOT ALLOWED IN REGULAR TIMES. 
          YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS ARE ABLE TO PUT TABLES ON THE HANDICAP SPOTS AND DO, YOU KNOW, TO ADD TABLES OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE HAS BEEN ROOM. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I NEVER MEANT TO BREAK ANY RULES. 
          AND WE WERE JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO FIGURE OUT A WAY, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T WAY TO, UNTIL TO BE ABLE TO, TO SUPPORT THE ARTS AND TO, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT, WE ARE STILL DOING ONLINE CLASSES, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN, YOU KNOW, AFTER A YEAR OF PEOPLE BEING, YOU KNOW, I AM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THE HUMAN INTERACTION THAT IS VERY MUCH NEEDED. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, EVERYBODY HAS AN IMPORTANT JOB AND I DON'T, I KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING IMPORTANT JOBS TOO, SO IT'S KIND OF TRYING TO HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER AND HOW TO FIGURE OUT A WAY AND MAYBE LAST PAGE. 
          SO EXACTLY. 
          SO HELP US IN A WAY, HELP US FIND A WAY TO COME LEAD, AS IT SAYS TO COEXIST. 
          UM, WE DO LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. 
          WE WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, THERE AND UNRESPONSIBLE THEN. 
          AND AGAIN, I, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE IF IT SAYS NEVER IF AN AMERICAN WOULD COME ACROSS THAT WAY, BUT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, LISTENING AND WE, WE, WE WERE TRYING TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO, TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE PROVIDING THE SERVICES FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORS. 
          AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY. 
          NO, 
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THAT WAS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, UH, YEAH. 
          HEY, EITHER DAVID, I BELIEVE IT'S BRAND BLOCKED. 
          I THINK I SAID, BRIAN, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M HERE. 
          CAN YOU ALL SEE AND HEAR ME? OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, WELL, THIS IS, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT TO PRESENT. 
          I'M REALLY JUST GOING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND CONTEXT ON, UM, OUT TO OUR MUSIC PERMITS IN AUSTIN, AND THEN I'M HERE FOR THE MOST PART, REALLY IT'S A RESOURCE AND TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. 
          UM, SO I GUESS, GOOD EVENING, UH, COMMISSIONERS, I SHOULD START THERE. 
          UH, BRIAN BLOCK, I'M THE ENTERTAINMENT SERVICES MANAGER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT AND, UM, OUR RESPONSIBILITY OR ONE OF THEM IS, UH, PERMITTING FOR OUTDOOR MUSIC IN AUSTIN. 
          SOME OF THIS IS PROBABLY REVIEW. 
          I KNOW IT'S REVIEW TO THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT I'LL RUN THROUGH IT ANYWAY. 
          UM, I, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IN AUSTIN, UM, WE HANDLE RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL WHEN IT COMES TO OUTDOOR MUSIC DIFFERENTLY, UM, FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL AND THAT'S COMMERCIAL AND CIVIC AND ALL TYPES OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USES. 
          UM, WE HAVE A PERMITTING PROCESS FOR OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND IN MUSIC, AND WE HAVE THAT PROCESS NOT TO FOCUS ON PROHIBITING AND RESTRICTING STUFF. 
          WE HAVE THAT PROCESS SO WE CAN SUPPORT BOTH THE MUSIC AND CULTURE AND ENTERTAINMENT AND RESIDENTIAL QUALITY OF LIFE. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S THERE. 
          AND WE WORK REALLY HARD TO ACHIEVE THAT, TO SUPPORT BOTH OF THOSE. 
          I THINK WE'VE BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL AT THAT. 
          AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THE SPEAKERS POINTED OUT. 
          UM, WE DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE SAYING, WHICH IS TO DIG REALLY DEEP, TO LOOK FOR CREATIVE SOLUTIONS AND DEFINE THAT BALANCE. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT, THE CURRENT SITUATION AT THIS PROPERTY, THERE ARE THINGS IN CITY CODE WHERE IT'S JUST BLACK AND WHITE AND WHERE THE CODE DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO THINGS. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THE CITY CODE DOES NOT ALLOW US TO DO IS TO ISSUE A PERMIT FOR OUTDOOR MUSIC OR SOUND AT A PROPERTY THAT IS WITH, OR ISSUE A PERMIT THAT IS WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF PROPERTY THAT'S ZONED AND USED FOR RESIDENTIAL USES. 
          THAT'S THE SITUATION, UM, THAT, UH, SKEENA TANGO IS IN BECAUSE DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH AND DIRECTLY TO THE EAST AND ACROSS THE STREET TO THE NORTH AND ACROSS THE STREET TO THE WEST ARE ALL PROPERTIES ZONED AND USED HIS RESIDENTIAL. 
          UM, THAT IS KIND OF IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT I WANTED TO PRESENT TO YOU. 
          UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK I'M JUST HERE AS A RESOURCE TO YOU AND TO, YOU KNOW, ANSWER QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE MORE INFO. 
          SO I THINK I WILL STOP THERE. 
          SO, BRIAN, CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE, HOW THE CLUBBER LODGE, UM, DESIGNATION WORKS WHEN I WENT TO RESIDENTIAL ZONED, A SINGLE FAMILY ZONE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS A COLLABOR LODGE. 
          CAUSE I'M, I'M A LITTLE, THAT SEEMS LIKE A LITTLE AMORPHOUS FOR ME. 
          SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, NOT DIRECTLY MY AREA THAT, YES. 
          UM, AND SO THIS PROPERTY IS A LITTLE UNIQUE. 
          UM, IT'S OWNED SF THREE, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILIES THREE. 
          UH, MOST OF THE PERMITTED USES ON A SINGLE FAMILY. 
          THREE PROPERTY ARE, YOU KNOW, A HOME OR A DUPLEX OR A HOME WITH THE, YOU KNOW, AN ADU UNIT. 
          UM, COMMERCIAL USES ARE NOT ALLOWED ON SINGLE FAMILY, THREE ZONED PROPERTIES, BUT CIVIC USES ARE, AND THEY'RE ALLOWED CONDITIONALLY. 
          AND SO, AND I WASN'T AROUND FOR THIS, BUT I ASSUME MONICA WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS WHERE IF YOU WANT TO 
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DO A CIVIC USE IN CLUB OR LODGE IS A CIVIC USE. 
          UM, ONLY NONPROFITS CAN GET THAT USE. 
          UM, THERE IS A PROCESS TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND GET APPROVED FOR THAT CONDITIONAL USE. 
          SO THAT IS KIND OF THE BACKGROUND ON THAT. 
          UM, THAT'S WHAT THEIR USE IS AND HOW THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT IN A SF THREE ZONE PROPERTY. 
          AND THE, THE MUSIC PERMITTING THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. 
          THAT'S THE OUTDOOR MUSIC VENUE PERMITS SPECIFICALLY, RIGHT. 
          FOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC, CORRECT. 
          UM, ALL NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN ORDER TO HAVE THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC TO THAT PERMIT IS REQUIRED. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, BRIAN. 
          UM, THAT'S YEAH, I THINK THAT'S MY QUESTIONS. 
          WELL, ACTUALLY, BRIAN, YOU DID TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FINDING CREATIVE SOLUTIONS FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE IN THIS KIND OF POSITION. 
          DO YOU, IF YOU HAD ANY, DID YOU HAVE OTHER THOUGHTS OR ABOUT WHAT THE CITY WOULD THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF YOU DON'T IT'S OKAY. 
          I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE THE PROBLEM, THE WHOLE PROBLEM SOLVER HERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE MONICA HAS TALKED ABOUT SIMON, THE SILENT DISCO, UM, NON AMPLIFIED MUSIC, LIKE WHAT ARE THOSE ABILITIES? AND SO THE NON AMPLIFIED MUSIC WOULD BE, UM, AN OPTION FOR THE MUSIC COMPONENT. 
          THE SILENT DISCO SEEMS LIKE A REALLY CREATIVE APPROACH, UM, WHERE THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DANCERS WEARING HEADPHONES AND THE INSTRUCTION AND THE MUSIC PLAYING THROUGH THAT. 
          THAT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY CREATIVE IDEA. 
          AND THEN OTHERWISE, WHAT IS THE, I MEAN, JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, IS THERE THE DECIBEL LEVEL? I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S MUSIC OR PEOPLE TALKING OR WHATEVER, IS THERE A SPECIFIC DECIBEL LEVEL FOR THE PROPERTY UNDER THEIR ZONING? UM, SO HOW IT WORKS FOR, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL IS TO PERMIT, UM, IS THEY'RE ALL CUSTOMIZED AND CONTEXT SENSITIVE. 
          AND SO THOSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE DO WHEN WE'RE WORKING TO EVALUATE A NEW PERMIT IS, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE HISTORY AND THE CONTEXT AND THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL AND DEVELOP THOSE HOURS AND DECIBEL LEVELS. 
          UM, SO IT IS PART OF THE PERMIT PROCESS. 
          THERE'S NOTHING, THERE'S SOME MAXIMUMS IN THE CODE, BUT ON A PERMIT IT'S ALL REALLY CUSTOMIZED. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY THE OUTDOOR MUSIC PERMIT IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO, OKAY, AWESOME. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS, BRIAN. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR, UH, JENNIFER WHO SPOKE AT THE BEGINNING. 
          UM, JENNIFER, ARE YOU STILL ON THE LINE? I'M HERE. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          YES. 
          AWESOME. 
          SO I WANTED TO KIND OF SPEAK JUST, I WANTED US TO MAYBE AS A COMMISSION TO TRY AND FOCUS JUST ON THE, WHAT WE, THE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, PRESENTLY WITH, UH, THEM BEING OUTSIDE FOR COVID. 
          AND CAN YOU TELL US, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF LIKE, WITHIN WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR, FOR COVID REASONS. 
          LIKE WHAT TIME ARE THE CLASSES, WHAT TIMES AND DAYS ARE THE CLASSES GOING ON? AND THEN AGAIN, THE OUTDOOR MUSIC, LIKE WHEN IS, WHEN IS THAT HAPPENING? UM, IT WAS REALLY HAPPENING AT ALL TIMES OF THE DAY. 
          SHE HAD MORNING CLASSES, AFTERNOON CLASSES AND EVENING CLASSES, AS WELL AS EVENING PERMITS. 
          I MEAN, UH, UH, EVENTS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, I I'VE LOOKED AT ONE OF HER, HER CALENDARS AND COUNTED CLASSES AND THEN WENT THROUGH THE NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT SHE WAS HAVING. 
          SOME OF THEM IN THE EVENING HAD MULTIPLE SEATING. 
          AND WHAT I CAME UP WITH THOSE SHE WAS DOING BETWEEN ABOUT 70 TO 75 IS THAT EVERY MONTH. 
          UM, SO THEN THE NOISE INTRUSION WAS A FAIRLY ROUTINE BANG. 
          UM, AND I, I ALSO WANTED TO BRIEFLY INDICATE THAT I, I KNOW WE'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE CALL IN FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAY THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN BOTHERED BY THE NOISE, BUT I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO THE COMMISSION THAT NONE OF THOSE 
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CALLERS, UM, WERE THEIR HOMES AREN'T SITUATED WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF THIS VENUE. 
          SO THE NOISE INTRUSION, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE THREE OR FOUR HOUSES DOWN OR THREE OR FOUR BLOCKS AWAY, THE NOISE INTRUSION IS NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS WHEN YOU'RE 11 FEET AWAY OR 50 FEET AWAY. 
          UM, AND SO THE, THE AMOUNT OF INTRUSION WAS SIGNIFICANT. 
          UM, IT WAS ONE TIME WHERE I WAS ON MY LAPTOP TRYING TO HELP A FAMILY. 
          AND I WAS SITTING IN MY BATHTUB WITH THE DOOR CLOSED, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY STILL COMING THROUGH THE WALLS, UM, AS I WAS TRYING TO HELP A GRIEVING FAMILY. 
          AND, AND THAT'S PROBABLY JUST TOO LOUD. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULDN'T WATCH TELEVISION, YOU KNOW, IT INTERRUPTED OUR SLEEP, BUT HAS KEPT US UP. 
          WE SENT SEVERAL VIDEOS TO THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, SHOWING KIND OF THE HOURS. 
          AND, AND I SENT ONE SHOWING A LITTLE BIT OF HOW LOUD IT WAS ACTUALLY INSIDE MY HOME WHEN THESE EVENTS WERE GOING ON. 
          UM, SO WE WANTED YOU TO, TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THAT, THAT HUNDRED FEET RULE THAT THE CODING HAS. 
          THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. 
          AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE INTRUSION REALLY IS QUITE SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU'RE WITHIN THAT HUNDRED FOOT RADIUS. 
          THANK YOU, JENNIFER. 
          UM, I HAD A QUESTION FOR IRENE, ARE YOU STILL THERE? ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, IRENE I'M STILL HERE. 
          OKAY, AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND I MEAN, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW, LIKE, HOW THAT IT'S BEEN, UH, WHAT THAT'S LIKE, AND IF THERE'VE BEEN ANY CHANGES, LIKE SINCE, SINCE COVID, IT'S BEEN IN EFFECT AND YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW SKIN IS AFFECTED THAT? SURE. 
          UM, I MEAN, I W I WANT TO JUST TOUCH ON, I, IT, EVERY CONVERSATION I'VE HAD WITH, UM, NEIGHBORS WITH MONICA, WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT GO TO A SKIN, A TANGO, THEIR SOLUTION AS THE CREATIVE WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE TEMPORARY, THEIR SPACE INSIDE IT'S DESIGNED FOR WHAT THAT SPACE IS SUPPOSED TO BE. 
          AND MUCH LIKE, UM, MUCH LIKE THE REST OF US WHO ARE ALL STUCK AT HOME. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL SORT OF IN THIS TOGETHER, THE CITY HASN'T STOPPED BUILDING PERMITS FOR, FOR HOUSING CONSTRUCTIONS ON MY STREET, MY KIDS ZOOM CALLS ARE INTERRUPTED, OR WIFI GOES OUT THEIR SEWAGE LEAKS. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL JUST SUFFERING THE SAME. 
          AND WHAT I LOVE THAT ABOUT THE CITY FOR NOT CLOSING CONSTRUCTION IS IT KEPT PEOPLE EMPLOYED. 
          IT KEPT PEOPLE WORKING. 
          IT KEPT PEOPLE HAPPY. 
          THEIR HOUSES WERE GETTING BUILT, WORKERS WERE GETTING PAID, AND THAT SAME THING WAS HAPPENING DOWN THE STREET. 
          ARTISTS WERE GETTING PAID, A BUSINESS WAS STAYING OPEN AND PEOPLE WERE STILL ABLE TO HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF LIVELIHOOD, EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T WHAT THEY, THEY WANTED. 
          AND IT WAS JUST BEAUTIFUL TO WALK BY EVERY TIME WE SAW IT, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL TO WALK BY IT, EVEN WHEN I COULDN'T SEE IT BEFORE COVID, BUT IT WAS JUST THIS WONDERFUL FEELING, LIKE, LOOK AT THIS ORGANIZATION THAT JUST SORT OF FOUND A WAY TO PIVOT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I REALLY WANTED TO SAY. 
          THAT'S THE REST OF MY THREE AND A HALF MINUTES WAS WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHERE WE'RE ALL IN THIS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE KNEW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS CHANGING WHEN WE MOVED AND IT'S CHANGED RAPIDLY. 
          AND IT'S AMAZING THAT A PLACE LIKE THIS GOING TO TINKLE HAS, IS STILL HERE AND ABLE TO, TO STILL BE PART OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE IT HAS CHANGED SO MUCH. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I MEAN, I APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, SO, HEY, APPLE'S DO YOUR, UM, YOUR PO IS YOUR, YOU'RE THE MUSIC COMMISSIONER FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          YES. 
          AND I DID SPEND SOME TIME TALKING WITH THE, UM, THE NEIGHBORS AND A FEW OF THE GUESTS THAT SPOKE TODAY, AND I SPOKE WITH, UH, MONICA FOR A BIT, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK WE CAN GET CREATIVE AND MAYBE EVEN, UM, YOU KNOW, HELP IN OTHER WAYS WITH, UM, MAYBE USING SOME PARK SPACE, UM, UNDERSTANDING FROM BEING IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TEMPORARY ADJUSTMENT. 
          UM, SO IT, IT'S JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HEARING EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS. 
          I THINK 
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THEY'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALL, THEY MEAN, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND I HAVE ALL GOOD POINTS. 
          UM, IT SEEMS LIKE MONICA IS, UM, YOU KNOW, HAS SUCH A GOOD THING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, UM, PERSONALITY TO, TO KIND OF WORK WITH THESE CHALLENGES AND LISTEN TO THE NEIGHBORS. 
          SO MAYBE WE COULD NEED A COMPROMISE WITH, YOU KNOW, HOURS AND TRASH WHILE WE HELP WITH SOME OF THE WEEKENDS THAT IT CAN BE HELD AT PARK. 
          UH, BUT YES, THAT IS THE DISTRICT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I'M ACTUALLY FROM A FEW BLOCKS AWAY, UM, NOT CURRENTLY, BUT, UH, KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND UNDERSTAND IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I ALSO HAVE BEEN TALKING A LITTLE BIT WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER TOGO'S OFFICE AND COUNCIL MEMBER OFFICE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME RESOLUTIONS, UM, THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON ONE THAT THE SHOP, THE BLOCK PROGRAM THAT'S IN EXISTENCE. 
          THERE MAY BE SOME AMENDMENTS COMING FORTH FOR USES OF PUBLIC SPACE, UH, FOR ARTS ORGANIZATIONS. 
          UH, AND THEN KATHY TO-DO'S RESOLUTION IS, UM, DOWNTOWN IT'S CALLED THE DOWNTOWN ACTIVATION RESOLUTION. 
          SO SAME THING, MUSIC AND PUBLIC PLACES, CITY SPACES, UH, POSSIBLY UNDERUTILIZED OR VACANT COMMERCIAL SPACE. 
          SO THERE MAY BE, I THINK, SOME POSSIBILITIES THERE, UM, THAT CAN HELP AN ORGANIZATION LIKE A SKEENA. 
          I MEAN, AS BRIAN SAID, THIS, THE SOUND, YOU KNOW, THAT THE OUTDOOR MUSIC, UH, PERMITTING FOR AMPLIFIED RULE IS, IS CLEAR, BUT, UM, AS FAR AS USING OUTDOOR SPACES AND WAYS THAT DON'T VIOLATE THE, THE NOISE ORDINANCES, UM, I THINK THERE'S SOME POSSIBILITIES STILL THERE FOR, SKEENA ABSOLUTELY TO CONTINUE AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CLEARLY THE NEIGHBORS OF OUR, YOU KNOW, THERE THERE'S A NOISE ISSUE FOR THE NEAREST NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, AND I KNOW MONICA WANTS TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT. 
          SO PROBABLY AS A COMMISSION, WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO IS TAKE, TAKE A LOOK AT THESE OTHER RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE COMING FORTH, BECAUSE THERE'S A BIGGER QUESTION HERE OR ISSUE TO BE WORKED OUT FOR HOW DURING COVID WE CAN BE USING PUBLIC SPACES SAFELY. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN, WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO NEXT MEETING. 
          UH, YEAH, DEFINITELY. 
          IT'S AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION. 
          I SAY IT SEEMS TO ME THOUGH, FROM WHAT, UM, BRIAN WAS SAYING THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS JUST NOT THERE THOUGH. 
          WELL, I, FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, THE OUTDOOR PERFORMANCES, AND THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE TAKEN OFF THE TABLE, UM, IN TERMS OF THEIR PERMITTING AND EVERYTHING. 
          UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU, IN THE, UH, THE SILENT DISCO THING SOUNDS LIKE YOU SAID, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT OPTION. 
          UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT ANTHONY IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN OFF THE TABLE FOR NOW, AT LEAST, UM, UNTIL IT CAN BE DONE IN A WAY WHERE IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, AMPLIFIED OR WHATEVER DEPARTMENT WE HAVE IN THE PERMANENT ALLOWS. 
          YES. 
          IT MAY BE UNDERSTANDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD I COULD HELP WITH, UM, SOME ALTERNATIVES RIGHT AWAY. 
          SO AS FAR AS INQUIRING WITH AVAILABLE SPACE, I KNOW THERE'S SOME PARKS IN THE AREA, SO WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT SO THAT WE CAN OFFSET MAYBE, UM, THEIR, THEIR NICK'S STARTUP OR, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THE FACTS. 
          NOW WE MAYBE HELP. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANY MORE, ANY MORE YOU HAVE TO, BECAUSE YEAH, WELL, I JUST, UH, UH, I I'M MANAGING, UM, THAT MONICA, THAT YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT ALTERNATIVE VENUES AND ALTERNATIVE SPACES, UH, AND YOU KNOW, BEFORE THIS CONVERSATION. 
          SO SINCE THAT, THAT THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF SOLUTIONS THAT ARE COMING UP RIGHT NOW, IS THAT SOMETHING, IS THERE A REASON YOU HAVEN'T PURSUED ANY, OR HAVE THE, AS A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE SPACE NOT COME UP OR IS IT THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE YOU'VE BUILT AT YOUR PLACE, UM, IS SO CRITICAL TO THE SERVICE THAT, THAT RELOCATION DOESN'T REALLY ALLOW YOU TO PROVIDE WHAT YOU NORMALLY PROVIDE? HMM. 
          AM I GIVING AN ECHO? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 
          UM, WELL, 
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UM, FIRST OF ALL, BECAUSE OF THE LEVELS OF COVID, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND ADHERE TO KIND OF SOME OF THE GUIDELINES, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE SUGGESTIONS OF THE CITY AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WAITING FOR THE LEVELS TO GO DOWN. 
          WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES OPENED BACK IN THE SUMMER, YOU KNOW, AS A NONPROFIT, WE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE FEEL WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE COMMUNITY, SO WE DIDN'T OPEN AND RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE STILL WE'RE WAITING FOR THOSE LEVELS TO COME DOWN, UM, TO, TO OPEN. 
          UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, WITH THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, OTHER PLACES IN THAT, UH, LIKE ACTUALLY, UH, FROM, FROM SOMEBODY WHO RUNS A NONPROFIT AND DOES THE SHAKESPEARE IN THE PARK AND SHE CALLED IT, LES SAID LIKE, YEAH, NO, I'VE BEEN LOOKING, IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE BECAUSE THERE IS A BASKETBALL DOWN THE STREET, BUT THE LIGHTING AND THE, LIKE, IT'S JUST AN OPEN SPACE. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF SETUP AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THAT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SETTING UP AND TAKING DOWN AND JUST FINANCES WISE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S LOGISTIC AND IT'S, IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE MONEY INVOLVED TO MOVE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LIKE SOME THINGS ARE EASY, LIKE THIS, THE, THAT CLASS WITH THE LIGHT DRUMMING AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S EASY BECAUSE THE DRUMMERS COME WITH THEIR OWN DRUMMING, IT'S ALL ACOUSTIC, THE DANCERS COME ON DANCE, BUT SOMETHING, SOMETHING MORE LIKE AN EVENT. 
          UM, IT'S JUST, IT WOULD BE, IT'S JUST MORE LOGISTIC AND MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE, YOU KNOW? YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S SO, BUT YEAH, WE, YOU KNOW, BUT YEAH, BUT DEFINITELY WE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE IDEA OF TRYING TO KEEP REINVENTING OURSELVES TO TRY TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, TO STAY AFLOAT, TO KEEP PROVIDING THE SERVICES, TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, UH, SUPPORTING ARTISTS IS STILL THERE. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          SO, UM, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT SPACES AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND TALKING TO PEOPLE FOR SURE, HOPEFULLY IN THE SPRING WITH THE WEATHER AND HOPEFULLY THE LEVELS GOING DOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW, UM, SHAKA SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE AN EX UH, THOSE PERMANENT EXCEPTIONS OFF THE TABLE AT THE SAME TIME. 
          I KNOW THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEKING IS A COVID EXCEPTION BECAUSE OTHER OTHER TRADITIONAL RULES HAVE BEEN CHANGED AND MADE EXCEPTIONS TO DO THING. 
          IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO GET ANY SORT OF CONSENSUS ON THE COMMISSION WHO RECOMMEND, UM, UH, AN OUTDOOR MUSIC EXCEPTION, BUT WHILE THE TRUST BREAKDOWN IS STILL HAPPENING WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS. 
          UM, AND SO, BUT I, I DO THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE'S, THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING A DEEP CULTURAL RESOURCE AND, UH, PEOPLE TO DO HELP. 
          UM, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE AN EXTERIOR AND THEATER HAS HAD TO ENTIRELY REINVENT ITSELF AND FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO IN THESE TIMES. 
          UH, I'M JUST, IF A SPACE CAN BE PROVIDED, I KNOW THE, THE SETUP REQUIRED, BUT JUST, UM, THINKING ABOUT WHAT IF IT WAS ONLY SOME BOOK CLASSES AND OTHER KINDS OF CLASSES THAT ARE THE QUICK SET UP. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T REALLY KNOW. 
          I DON'T MEAN TO BE, YOU HAVE MORE IDEAS FOR HOW TO DO THIS THAN WE DO, BUT I THINK THAT TRUST BREAKDOWN WITH THE NEIGHBORS IS GOING TO BE TOUGH TO OVERCOME AND, AND GET THE WHOLE GROUP TO RECOMMEND, UH, CHANGING CITY REGULATIONS FOR MY CATS. 
          WASN'T I MISTAKEN THAT BRIAN HAD MENTIONED, THERE IS ONE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION THAT IS AVAILABLE TO NONPROFITS FOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING. 
          AND HE SAID IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS KIND OF AN ODD ONE, BUT THAT, BECAUSE YOU ARE A NONPROFIT, IT MIGHT FIT BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM LIKE WE HAVE THE PERMITTING AS THE ONE THING, AND THEN NOISE ABATEMENT AND PEACE IN THE VALLEY AS THE KIND OF, UH, COMING AFTER THAT, IF THERE IS NO REAL EASY, UH, OR I'M SURE THERE'S NO EASY ONE, BUT IF THERE, THERE IS NO DEFINITE WAY TO GET A PERMIT. 
          AND THAT SENDS US OFF IN ANOTHER DIRECTION. 
          I MEAN, BRIAN CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT I THINK, UM, UH, MY, I, AS I UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE KINDS OF PERMITS, UH, AND THAT KIND OF, UH, THAT KIND OF EXCEPTION COMES WITH THROUGH A PROCESS AND WITH THE CONSENT ESSENTIALLY OF THE NEIGHBORS AND NOW, UH, AND THAT HAPPENED YEARS AND YEARS AGO. 
          AND NOW THAT TRUST IS BROKEN DOWN. 
          SO I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT A COMMUNITY PROCESS RIGHT NOW WOULD YIELD 
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THAT ACCEPTANCE. 
          GOTCHA. 
          BUT BRIAN, PLEASE ANSWER, BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          WELL, I CAN KIND OF CLARIFY AND JUST ADD ON TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING CRAM CAUSE. 
          UM, AND SO W WHEN I WAS ANSWERING THAT QUESTION, THAT WAS ABOUT THE ZONING AND THE USE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION THAN THE OUTDOOR SOUND AND MUSIC PERMITTING. 
          UM, SO, UM, THE COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION WAS ABOUT WHAT IS THEIR LAND USE AND THEIR LAND USE AT THE CIVIC USE IT'S CLEVER LODGE. 
          AND SO IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT USE AT ALL ON AN SF THREE ZONE PROPERTY, THAT THAT'S WHERE THE NONPROFIT COMES IN, BUT, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE OUTDOOR MUSIC COMPONENT, UM, NONE OF THAT IT'S REALLY THE ISSUE IS ABOUT THE DISTANCE TO, UM, OTHER PROPERTIES ZONED AND USED FOR RESIDENTIAL IN THAT HUNDRED FEET. 
          SO THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES. 
          DOES THAT ANSWER THEIR QUESTION? THAT'S FOR ME? THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S MUCH CLEARER. 
          UM, YEAH, SO GRAHAM BRINGS UP AN INTERESTING POINT OF WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS. 
          AND SO YEAH, IF JENNIFER OR ERIC ARE STILL ON THE LINE, UM, YEAH, SO I'VE GOT MYSELF, ERIC, UH, DORIS, RAUL AND BOBBY. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          I'M AFRAID, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE HERE. 
          UM, I MEAN, I GUESS I WOULD JUST SAY LIKE, IF, IF THERE WAS A COMPROMISE TO BE WORKED OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT, I MEAN, WHAT WOULD YOU FIND ACCEPTABLE IN TERMS OF EVENING PERFORMANCES OR DAYTIME CLASSES? LIKE WHAT, WHAT COULD BE BEARABLE? UM, BECAUSE I, I MEAN, I'M SURE THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO CREATE A TERRIBLE HARDSHIP FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS IN TERMS OF THEIR BUSINESS, BUT YOUR LIVES HAVE CLEARLY BEEN IMPACTED. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT MIGHT WORK FOR Y'ALL? YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE OBSERVED, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE CITY CAME IN, NOTIFIED HER THAT SHE'S NOT PERMITTED FOR OUTDOOR MUSIC THAT, UM, AND MANAGED TO PIVOT AND ALL, AND, AND SHE, I THINK USING EAR PODS WAS ABLE TO TEACH HER DANCE CLASSES FOR ANOTHER MONTH. 
          SO, UM, WHERE THERE WAS NO AMPLIFIED MUSIC OR ACOUSTIC MUSIC OF ANY TIME, BECAUSE USING BLUETOOTH, WHICH IS NOT REAL EXPENSIVE TECHNOLOGY, AND SHE WAS ABLE TO TRANSMIT THE MUSIC TO HER DANCERS AND HER INSTRUCTORS SIMULTANEOUSLY. 
          AND AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT SHE WAS DOING. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS DOING. 
          UM, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE DANCE CLASSES. 
          SO AT THAT POINT, IT REALLY JUST COMES, YOU KNOW, IF SHE'S ABLE TO DO THE DANCE CLASSES THAT WAY, IT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH OF AN IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORS, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO SOUND AND, YOU KNOW, THE MORE DISORDERLY BEHAVIOR THAT GOES ON, YOU KNOW, LATE AT NIGHT WHEN ALCOHOL IS INVOLVED, ISN'T TYPICALLY GOING ON IN HER, YOU KNOW, DAYTIME AND EARLY EVENING DANCE CLASSES. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY IS WHEN SHE DOES THE NIGHTCLUB EVENTS WHEN SHE DOES CONCERTS, WHEN SHE BRINGS IN EJS AND BLAST MUSIC THROUGH THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES TO HER YEAR THING, THAT SPACE AT THE CITY, YOU KNOW, IF SHE CAN GET A PERMIT FOR IT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, WE'RE LESS WITH THE OUTDOOR MUSIC ISSUE. 
          AND FRANKLY, OUR HOUSE IS 10 FEET FROM WHERE SHE WANTS TO DO THAT. 
          I DON'T REALLY SEE HOW SHE CAN DO OUTDOOR CONCERTS AND BRING IN DJS AND, YOU KNOW, SIX AND SEVEN PIECE BAND AND NOT HAVE THAT TRANSMIT DIRECTLY INTO OUR WINDOWS. 
          BOBBY IS STANDING HERE AND HE'S SAYING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIKE 50 FEET AWAY ACROSS THE STREET. 
          SHE CAN'T DO THAT AND NOT HAVE IT REALLY GOING STRAIGHT INTO THEIR HOME DOORS AND ROLL ARE NODDING THEIR HEADS. 
          THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, SO CLOSE TO HER AS WELL, JUST BEING RIGHT IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET. 
          UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN SHE WAS DOING THESE EVENTS, I KNOW THAT SHE FELT LIKE SHE WAS WITHIN REASONABLE SOUND LIMITS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN REALITY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PHOTOS OF DECIBEL METERS WHERE SHE'S, YOU KNOW, REGISTERING WELL OVER 90 AND A HUNDRED DECIBELS, EVEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN NEIGHBORS, IF THEY WERE TO PLAY A LITTLE MUSIC IN THEIR BACK YARD WHILE THEY WERE HAVING A GET TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THEIR 
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LIMITS HAD FIVE. 
          AND, UM, I, I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS AS WE DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY NOT ONLY OUR HOMES, BUT OUR BACKYARDS AS WELL. 
          IF WE WANT TO HAVE A GAS STOVER SET OUT BACK AND HAVE A BARBECUE AND LISTEN TO OUR MUSIC, WE DESERVE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          UM, HAVING HER HOST EVENTS, YOU KNOW, EVERY SINGLE DAY OF EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND AND, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPLETELY CONSUMING THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT AFFECTS US AS WELL. 
          SO AS FAR AS A COMPROMISE ON, ON THAT, I, I'M GONNA BE HONEST. 
          I DON'T THINK WE REALLY FEEL LIKE THERE'S A METHODOLOGY FOR HER TO HAVE OUTDOOR CONCERTS OUT THERE, HAVE AMPLIFIED MUSIC OUT THERE, OR HAVE DRUMS THERE WITHOUT IT REALLY TAKING OVER OUR SPACE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SHE'S ABLE TO RESUME HER DANCE CLASSES, DOING THE BLUETOOTH OPTION, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT 80 OR 90% OF HER SCHEDULE. 
          UM, SHE WOULD THEN NEED TO PROBABLY RELOCATE TO A SPACE THAT THE CITY PROVIDES, UM, IN ORDER TO DO, UH, THE, THE CONCERTS AND THE DJS AND THE BIG DANCE EVENTS, WHERE THEY WANT WILD MUSIC. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS, I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME WHEN THESE GROUPS ARRIVED TO PERFORM, UM, FOR THEIR ENTERTAINMENT, THE DJS AND THE MUSICIANS ARE TYPICALLY BRINGING THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT WITH THEM. 
          AND SO IF THE CITY COULD PROVIDE HER WITH A LIGHTED SPACE WITH ELECTRICITY, UM, FOR THE MUSICIANS TO WORK OFF OF, I THINK THAT THEY'RE TYPICALLY DELIVERING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE COMING EQUIPPED WITH THEIR OWN MUSICAL EQUIPMENT ANYWAY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SHE CAN DO DANCE CLASSES ON BLUETOOTH HEADPHONES DURING THE WEEK AND PIVOT AND DO HER OUTDOOR, BUT YOU KNOW, STUFF ON THE, ON THE WEEKENDS. 
          BUT IF IT'S A BIG ENOUGH SPACE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE EVEN HAVE MORE THAN 40 PEOPLE IF, IF THE CITY DEEMS THAT SPACE. 
          UM, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE WOULD, DEPENDING ON THE SPACE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF DOING PLATFORMS, YOU CAN SIMPLY TAKE DOWN SOME SQUARES OR, OR, YOU KNOW, UM, HE, SOME CHALK ON THE GROUND, UM, TO DESIGNATE EVERYONE'S STAYING KINDA IN THEIR LANE FOR SOCIAL DISTANCING REASONS. 
          I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME CREATIVE THINGS COULD BE DONE TO HELP HER. 
          UM, BUT WE REALLY, WE REALLY HAVE HAD SUCH A ROUGH, IT'S SUCH A ROUGH TIME WITH THE INTRUSION, INTO OUR HOMES AND OUR LIVES THAT WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE AN OUTDOOR MUSIC PERMIT GRANTED. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AGAIN, UM, CAN'T REMEMBER WHO WAS SPEAKING, BUT THANK YOU. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANY OTHER, UM, THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS, CONVERSATION. 
          WE HAD BEEN ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME. 
          UM, I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF WE, WE MIGHT HAVE TO POSTPONE SOME OF THIS STUFF THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, BUT, UM, ANY OTHER, UM, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS ON THIS? UH, ANY, UH, ANY DECISIONS YOU GUYS WANT TO MAKE YOU WANT TO, UH, MOM ON IT AND MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS LATER, OR THOUGHTS ON THAT? UH, I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, BUT THEN WHEN WE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OLD BUSINESS FOR THE NEXT AGENDA, IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO FRAME ANY FUTURE DISCUSSION ON US. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          AND, UM, WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU OFFERED TODAY. 
          WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          WE HEARD EVERYONE AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TO THE NEXT TOPIC. 
          HOPE EVERYBODY'S OKAY. 
          I'VE BEEN TRYING TO STRESS, TRYING TO STOP MY VIDEO STRESS DURING THIS TIME. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          [2b. Discussion and Possible Action on the review of Art in Public Places (AIPP) funding, and exploring opportunities for music.]
DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REVIEW OF ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, FUNDING AND EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MUSIC. 
          UM, DID ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THAT OR, UM, WHEN SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY THAT WAS ON, SO SHOTGUN IT'S, SO IT'S STILL NOVIA DEPUTY DIRECTOR WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AFTER YOUR LAST MEETING, UH, THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES, STAFF FORWARDED AN EMAIL OVER OF EXAMPLES ON HOW MUSICIANS CAN INTERACT WITH THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES PROGRAM. 
          UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN OPENING FOR TEMPO PROPOSALS THAT CLOSES ON FEBRUARY 11 AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          I THOUGHT I 
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HEARD SOMEONE ELSE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES AT CLOSED ON FEBRUARY 11TH, THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, WEBSITE AND APPLY. 
          AND SO WE SENT THAT MEMO TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION SO THAT THEY CAN DISPERSE IT TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR NEWSLETTERS. 
          SO I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE, AND THE IT GUYS CP IS CLOSED. 
          APPLICATION IS CLOSED, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          THE APP CLOSED LAST WEEK AND THAT'S, UH, THAT'S NOT FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS. 
          I KNOW FOR YEARS, RIGHT. 
          FOR BUBBLES. 
          EXACTLY. 
          I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, TWO, THREE YEARS, IS IT LIKE THE NEXT WEEK, IT GIVES US A LITTLE TIME, UM, NOTHING, POSSIBLY SOME IDEAS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUSIC CAN, YOU KNOW, BECOME MORE OF A PARTNER THAT, OR WE KNOW WE HAVE TIME FOR THAT CONVERSATION. 
          I WAS THINKING OF THREE YEARS. 
          SO THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND AND, AND BRING TO THE, BE THE COMMUNITY, THE WAYS YOU CAN POSSIBLY BE VIEWS INTO THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, YEAH, FUNDING OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT. 
          AND WHEN WE ARE OUT FOR VARIOUS CALLS, WE WILL ENCOURAGE THAT COLLABORATION BECAUSE AGAIN, IT IS TIED TO AN ASSET. 
          AND SO WITH OUR CONVERSATION, WITH OUR ART IN PUBLIC PLACES, ADMINISTRATOR, WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE PUSHING FOR COLLABORATION WHEN AWESOME. 
          OKAY. 
          HEY, YEAH. 
          BOTH ON THAT DISCUSSION ON THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, 
          [2c. Discussion and Possible Action after update from Systemic Racism Working Group.]
THIS IS TO SAVE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AT THE UPDATE FROM SEVENTH GRADE TO THE WORKING GROUP AND CHARLOTTE, UH, USER. 
          YEAH, I CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, SO I WILL BE BRIEF, BUT, UH, IN OUR, JUST TO RECAP IN THE FALL, UM, WE DID A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UM, EDUCATION ABOUT HISTORY OF, UM, MUSIC AND EQUITY ISSUES IN AUSTIN. 
          UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SURVEY THAT, UM, IS GOING OUT IN JANUARY. 
          UH, WE DUG AND REALLY LIKE SPECIFIC RE IDENTIFIED SPECIFIC ISSUES TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLE INITIATIVES. 
          SO IN FEBRUARY, UH, PAM OWENS, WHO IS ON THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP, AND WE'RE REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER, UM, BECAUSE SHE'S A CONSULTANT WITH, UM, EXPERTISE IN DIVERSITY EDUCATION, TEAM COACHING AND, UM, STRATEGIC PLANNING, SHE'S GOING TO LEAD THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS SO THAT WE, WE PUT TOGETHER ALL THAT BRAINSTORMING THAT WE'VE DONE ABOUT ISSUES AND INITIATIVES, AND SHE'S GOING TO HELP FUNNEL THAT. 
          UM, AND SO STRATEGIC PLANNING TO, UM, TRADE A ROADMAP FOR PROCESSES AND, UH, SOLUTIONS THAT, UM, CAN BE CON CONCRETE INITIATIVES. 
          SO WE WILL BE PRESENTING THOSE TO THE COMMISSION IN MARCH OR APRIL ONCE WE GET THAT NAILED DOWN. 
          AND THEN WE'LL ALSO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT AND SHARE THAT WITH OTHER, UM, MUSIC GROUPS AND CULTURAL GROUPS. 
          UM, SO YEAH, WE'RE REALLY, REALLY STARTING TO DIG DOWN INTO THE HARD WORK AND HE'LL BE EXCITED TO SHARE WHAT WE DO WITH Y'ALL. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, JUST TO ADD, TO ADD TO THAT, UM, WE'VE BEEN MEETING TWICE A MONTH FOR WHAT, THREE MONTHS NOW. 
          UM, AND A LOT OF THAT WORK UP UNTIL, UM, UP UNTIL NOW, AND PROBABLY THE NEXT MEETING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT RACE AND REALLY DIGGING INTO OUR UNDERSTANDING, UM, OUR OWN PERSONAL BIASES. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME IN AND TALK ABOUT A HISTORY, UM, IN AUSTIN AND WE'VE HAD SOME, SOME, SOME REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS. 
          AND SO THAT'S INFORMING ALL OF, ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT FOR THINGS LIKE, UM, LIKE, AND CHARLOTTE SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, PAM OWNS, WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HER. 
          I'M GLAD THAT SHE IS A PART OF THIS COMMITTEE. 
          SHE'S EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SIX SQUARE, UM, WHICH IS AWESOME, CULTURAL BLACK DISTRICT, UM, BLACK CULTURAL DISTRICT. 
          AND, UM, YEAH, SHE'S GOING TO GET US ALL SITUATED, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT TWO MEETINGS. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO ONCE, ONCE A MONTH AFTER THAT AND HAVE SPECIFIC ASSIGNMENTS THAT, UH, MUSIC COMMISSIONERS ARE GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE, BUT ALSO THE, UH, THE VOLUNTEER GROUP MEMBERS RESPONSIBLE FOR. 
          SO, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING MORE WITH YOU ABOUT THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. 
          AND WON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
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IS THERE ANY ACTION OR ANYTHING, ANY HOMEWORK ESSENTIALLY FOR US? NO, NOT YET. 
          WE, UM, WE ARE STILL REALLY LIKE TRYING TO GET OUR BUCKETS TOGETHER AND TONS OF THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON AS A GROUP. 
          UM, WE WANT TO WHEEL IT DOWN TO ABOUT THREE AT THE MOST FIVE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ON THIS YEAR. 
          UM, AND WE'LL BE SHARING THAT AS SOON AS WE KIND OF WHITTLE THAT DOWN. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE A PRETTY LARGE LIST AS SOMETHING KIND OF OVERLAP AND WE NEED TO COME JUST KEEP WHITTLING AWAY AT IT. 
          BUT, UM, HOPEFULLY AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO YOU, UM, OUR, OUR MAJOR, OUR MAJOR BULLETS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WELL BEFORE FOR RECOMMENDATIONS AND THINGS THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. 
          [2d. Discussion and Possible Action following update on Downtown Commission.]
UM, THIS IS TO D DISCUSSING THE POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING AN UPDATE ON DOWNTOWN COMMISSION. 
          Y'ALL HEAR ME GOOD. 
          YEP. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, DOWNTOWN COMMISSION MEETING, DOWNTOWN COMMISSION MEETS EVERY THIRD, WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH. 
          AND WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON OUR SCHEDULE FOR 2021, PUTTING A COMMISSION MEETING ON AN INAUGURATION DAY DID NOT SEEM LIKE A BIG DEAL, BUT, UH, IT TURNED OUT THAT WE HAD TO CANCEL THAT MEETING, UM, DUE TO THE, UH, STATE CITY BUILDINGS BEING ON STRICT LOCKDOWN OR, UM, SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THE COMMISSION, THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, BUT, UM, I REVIEWED LAST OUR MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING FROM LAST MONTH TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE CAN PRESENT TO THE, OR WHAT I CAN PRESENT TO THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION, AS FAR AS ANY ACTION WE WANT THEM TO TAKE IT ALL KIND OF COMES FROM THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE TO THIS COMMISSION AND TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS DO WE WANT AUSTIN TO REMAIN THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD? DO WE WANT THE BRAND OF THE CITY TO BE MUSIC? UM, I TALKED TO, UH, UH, CHIEF OF STAFF FOR PAY JEALOUS EARLIER TODAY. 
          AND IT SEEMS LIKE AUSTIN DOES WANT TO HOLD ONTO THAT MONIKER, BUT THE ACTIONS OF THAT COULDN'T BE MORE SYMBOLIC IN THE, UH, CLOSING OF MUSIC LAB TO TURN INTO A TESLA SHOWROOM. 
          UM, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE WHERE AUSTIN WANTS TO GO MORE INTO THE TECH SECTOR AND, AND PUT MUSIC, UH, ASIDE, WHICH IS NOTHING THAT I WANT. 
          UM, AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE WANTS, UH, BUT THE ACTIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT, UM, THE TECH INDUSTRY IS FAR MORE DOMINANT THAN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. 
          SO, UM, IF THE CITY WANTS TO HOLD ONTO THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL, THE WORLD MONIKER AND NOT HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY TO CHANGE ITS MARKETING STRATEGY, UM, WE NEED HELP AND WE NEED SPACE AND WE NEED MONEY AND THE CITY CAN ONLY PROVIDE SO MUCH. 
          SO IT'S GOING TO COME UP TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR. 
          UM, SO WHAT I TOOK SOME NOTES, I TOOK DOWN FROM THE LAST MEETING, UM, WHERE WE NEED TO RE ENVISION A SPACE FOR MUSIC IN DOWNTOWN THAT IS NOT ONLY VIABLE, BUT EQUITABLE, UM, THAT WILL HELP THEM PRESERVE A NEW NORMAL OF LIVE MUSIC IN DOWNTOWN. 
          WE DO GET KIND OF THIS RESET FROM THE PANDEMIC. 
          SO, UM, I THINK, UH, AS A COMMISSION, HAVING SOME CONCRETE IDEAS ON WHAT THAT NEW NORMAL LOOKS LIKE WILL REALLY BE HELPFUL MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, SO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER YOU GUYS ARE THINKING, UM, FOR ME, WHERE I, I KEEP FEELING LIKE WE KEEP RETURNING TO AS A COMMISSION, AND YOU JUST SAID TO SPACE, YOU KNOW, WITH MUSIC LAB CLOSING, AGAIN, LIKE IT'S A SPACE ISSUE. 
          UM, THE RESOLUTION THAT TURBOS OFFICE IS TRYING TO PUT FORTH WITH THE DOWNTOWN ACTIVATION. 
          LIKE AGAIN, THEY'RE LOOKING AT SPACE ISSUES. 
          SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT CONTINUE TO BE PART OF YOUR PET GROUP'S DISCUSSION OF INNOVATIVE WAYS TO, TO USE SPACE. 
          GRAHAM TALKED ABOUT HOW WE, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPTY SPACE DOWNTOWN NOW BECAUSE, UM, BUSINESSES ARE NOT UTILIZING THEIR OFFICE SPACE IN THE SAME 
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WAY. 
          SO YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT'S A REALLY CRITICAL ISSUE FOR THIS COMMISSION AND, UM, AND FOR THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION TO CONTINUE WORKING ON. 
          DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY. 
          THANKS. 
          UH, THANKS, DOUG. 
          UM, YEAH, THESE, UH, ISSUES ARE NOT NEW, BUT, UH, THEY'RE RAPIDLY, RAPIDLY CHANGING, UM, THINGS RAPIDLY HAPPENING. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST SEND A SENSE OF ENCOURAGEMENT WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT IN AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION TO COME UP WITH SOME, SOME GOOD IDEAS FOR HOW TO CREATE SOME SPACE. 
          AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE ALL CAN COME UP WITH SOME GOOD IDEAS. 
          UH, THIS IS A BIG, BIG, BIG, UH, BIG CHALLENGE WE FACE WITH NEXT TWO TO FIVE YEARS WHERE THE, WHETHER MUSIC'S GONNA BE HERE AT ALL OR WEIGHT CAPACITY, IT'S GOING TO BE HERE WITH ALL THESE THINGS. 
          UM, BUT THANKS, DOUG. 
          I APPRECIATE IT LIKE YOU, UM, OKAY. 
          [3a. Discussion and Possible Action on music performances at each Music Commission meeting.]
NEW BUSINESS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON MUSIC PERFORMANCES AT EACH COMMISSION MEETING ON WHO I WANT TO, WHO WAS A BRILLIANT PERSON THAT CAME UP WITH THAT. 
          I DID, WE GOTTA GET HIM A RAISE OR MAYBE WE SAY, WE GOTTA GET SOMEBODY READY. 
          THAT WAS GREAT. 
          I DID SO LOVE YOU. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS WHATEVER PROCESS OR, UM, SELECTION PROCESS THAT THE COMMISSION COMES UP WITH? WE WILL SUPPORT COMPENSATING THE MUSICIANS AT OUR, UM, HEY ERIC AND I'LL CONFER WITH STAFF, BUT, UM, WHATEVER OBJECTIVE PROCESS YOU GUYS COME UP WITH, UH, AGAIN, WE WILL HELP SUPPORT THE MUSICIANS THAT THEY, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, EACH COMMISSION WANTS TO RECOMMEND SOMEONE FROM THEIR DISTRICT, OR IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO THE LIST THAT WAS CURATED, UH, TO BE HIGH, UM, GROUPS TO BE HIGHLIGHTED DOING CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT BACK ON TRACK, BUT HAVEN'T YET I KNOW STEPHANIE AND KIM AND ERIC ARE DEFINITELY WORKING ON THAT, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF YOU HAVE A PERFORMANCE, UH, WE WILL COMPENSATE. 
          YES. 
          UH, THIS IS ERICA. 
          THIS IS STEPHANIE. 
          I'M ALSO HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU GUYS THE LIST OF APPROXIMATION PERFORMANCES THAT WERE CANCELED LAST YEAR. 
          AND I'M HAPPY TO COORDINATE. 
          I KNOW THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS INDICATED THE LEVEL OF CAPACITY THAT THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT THIS ON THE AUDIO SIDE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO JUST CONNECT WITH YOU GUYS TO MAKE SURE THIS GETS STREAMLINED AND THAT WE'RE MEETING OUR STANDARD RATE OF PAY FOR MUSICIANS. 
          YEAH, THIS IS ERIC. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN HEAR ME FROM CITY HALL, BUT YEAH, STEPHANIE, I TALKED ABOUT SUPPORTING THIS EFFORT EARLIER TODAY. 
          NOT ONLY FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS, BUT FOR CITY HALL PROCLAMATIONS, AND WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN RECORD PERFORMANCES, UM, TO STREAM OR TO DO LIVE DURING THESE MEETINGS. 
          BUT YES, WE DO HAVE A BUDGET TO COMPENSATE BECAUSE ANYTIME WE ASK A MUSICIAN TO PERFORM, EVEN IF IT'S FOR A COMMISSION MEETING OR ANY CITY EVENT, UM, THE MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION WILL PAY FOR THAT. 
          YOU THAT'S GREAT. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS, UM, ABOUT HOW TO SELECT PERFORMERS? OR SHOULD WE JUST ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUICK IDEAS? I'M CURIOUS HOW THE, HOW THE COUNCIL PERFORMANCES ARE CURATED, BECAUSE IF THERE'S A SYSTEM THAT SEEMS FAIR AND TRANSPARENT, EQUITABLE ALREADY IN PLACE, RATHER THAN REINVENTING OUR OWN. 
          SURE. 
          I CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT, UH, AGAINST THE STEPHANIE. 
          UM, SO THE COUNCIL THAT THE PROCLAMATION PERFORMANCES ARE SOURCED FROM COUNCIL SELECTIONS. 
          THE BEGINNING OF EVERY YEAR, WHEN WE RECEIVE COUNCIL DATES, CITY COUNCIL MUSIC, OR THE MEETING DATES, WE REACH OUT TO THE INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL OFFICES FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT STANCES THAT WE WANT THESE TO BE COUNCIL RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE START THERE. 
          SO THAT'S TO GIVE YOU THE CONTEXT OF THAT. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY EACH COUNCIL PERSON HAS THEIR OWN PROCESS AND SELECTION SYSTEM. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          WE JUST, WE WERE IN RECEIPT OF THOSE, UH, SUGGESTIONS. 
          AND THEN WE REACHED OUT TO THE PERFORMERS AND GET THEM SCHEDULED, UH, AS, AS WE CAN. 
          THE GOOD NEWS IS WE DO HAVE DATES. 
          WE DO HAVE YOUR ESTABLISHED DATES FOR YOUR REGULAR MEETINGS. 
          THEY WERE THERE THE REST OF THE YEAR. 
          SO 
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WE WANT IT TO, IF YOU WANT IT TO START SENDING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OR CONTACT INFORMATION, UH, AS YOU HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO STAFF, WE CAN START VETTING AND SCHEDULING, OH, YOU FIRST GOT HERE. 
          THAT WAS THE SAME. 
          MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING, UM, THAT WE SHOULD PUT, UM, FOR NEXT AGENDA. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIGURE SOMETHING SOMETHING QUICK. 
          UM, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY BRING SEGUE. 
          EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE SOME IDEAS OF HOW WE COULD, YOU KNOW, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IDEAS FOR HOW TO, YOU KNOW, JUST SELECT PEOPLE AND MAKE IT OBVIOUSLY EQUITABLE AND KNOW WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY MEETINGS ONLY WHAT, HOW MANY LEFT NOW IN A YEAR? UH, NINE, UM, 10. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN ALSO, AS YOU'RE GETTING THIS LIST TOGETHER, JUST LET US KNOW WHAT, UH, ASSISTANCE MAY BE NEEDED TO US. 
          GET THOSE PERFORMANCES DONE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BE EQUITABLE AS POSSIBLE SO WE CAN PROVIDE A PRODUCTION SPACE, UM, AND A PROTECTION, A PRODUCTION TEAM IF NEEDED. 
          IF THE ARTIST DOESN'T HAVE THAT AT HOME. 
          UM, I WOULD SAY IF ANYONE HAS AN IDEA FOR SOMEBODY FOR THE NEXT MEETING, JUST OCCUPY, LIKE JUST SOMEONE THAT THIS, WE SHOULD GET THE MADNESS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BOOM. 
          AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH NO PROBLEM WITH MINUS AND ALL. 
          UH, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. 
          I DO THINK WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO FIGURE OUT EVENTUALLY SOMETHING IN BETWEEN AN INSIDER'S CLUB OF PEOPLE WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH AND KNOW ALREADY, AND, UH, AN ELABORATE SUBMISSION PROCESS. 
          WE KNOW THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF TENSION BETWEEN SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST AND ALL THE LOCAL MUSICIANS WHO DON'T GET IN. 
          AND SO, AND WE HAVE FAR, FAR FEWER OPPORTUNITIES THAN SOUTH BY. 
          AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD UP A RESENTMENT WHERE ONLY PEOPLE THAT KNOW US PERSONALLY ARE GETTING IN. 
          UH, SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO, THAT'S THE PUZZLE? I THINK WE'RE FACED WITH I 100% AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG CONVERSATION THEN WE HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, SO I WOULD JUST, IF, IF THERE'S ONE PERSON AND I FELT LIKE EVERYONE MAYBE COULD COME UP WITH OR NOT, WE CAN JUST WAIT AND TALK ABOUT IT NEXT TIME. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN HAVE SOMEONE PERFORM IN, UH, IN APRIL. 
          SO I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH EITHER ONE, IF, IF PEOPLE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THE VANTAGE IS A GOOD CHOICE, SO WE COULD JUST MAKE THAT CHOICE IN THE GROUP TONIGHT AND THEN COME TO THE TABLE, UM, IN MARCH WITH SOME IDEAS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW TO, YOU KNOW, BRING, BRING ARTISTS INTO DIFFERENT FORM. 
          SO I WOULD MOTION THAT WE HAVEN'T DIAMANDIS NEXT MONTH. 
          SO WE FIGURED OUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK TECHNOLOGICALLY AND ALL THAT, BUT TO BE FOLLOWED UP BY HOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MORE OPEN PROCESS. 
          SO IT'S NOT ONLY PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, ANYBODY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT'S AWESOME. 
          WE THANK, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, BEING, UH, STEPPING UP AND ALLOWING US TO SUPPORT MUSICIANS IN THAT WAY. 
          UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S AWESOME. 
          AND I THINK IT ADDS A LOT TO OUR MEETING, UM, AND ALSO GIVE US SOMETHING MORE TO PROMOTE, YOU KNOW, AND GET PEOPLE TO COME AND CHECK US OUT, YOU KNOW, GET MORE PEOPLE IN TOWN. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I GOTTA BOUNCE BACK OVER HERE. 
          [3b. Discussion and Possible Action on digital outreach and creation of social media landing page by Music Commission.]
RIGHT. 
          UM, DISCUSSING THE POSSIBLE ACTION ON DIGITAL OUTREACH AND CREATION OF SOCIAL MEDIA LANDING PAGE. 
          THAT'D BE THE COMMISSION. 
          UM, I KNOW I'VE GOT A, A, A NOTE, AN EMAIL BASICALLY SAYING THAT WE ONLY HAVE SO MANY OUTLETS THAT THIS REALLY, UH, WE KIND OF HAVE TO USE THE OUTLETS THAT WE HAVE. 
          THERE WASN'T REALLY MUCH, UM, MUCH, UH, MUCH NEWS ON THAT. 
          UM, WE CAN, UM, I THINK WE CAN PUSH TO GET MAYBE SOME, SOME, UM, BETTER GRAPHICS OR SOME THINGS THAT, UM, MAYBE APPEAL TO AUDIENCES THAT WE WOULD BE OUTREACHING TO, BUT, UM, WE CAN'T CREATE A, ANY TYPE OF FACEBOOK PAGE OR WEBSITE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, YOU HAVE TO KIND OF USE THE CITY OUT OF IT. 
          THEY WON'T HAVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS IS ERICA AT CITY HALL. 
          AND, UM, I WAS JUST GOING TO HAND THIS OFF TO STEPHANIE THAT WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE SOME FACEBOOK'S EVENTS THAT SHE HAS CREATED AT THE MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT DIVISION PAGE. 
          SO STEPHANIE, COULD YOU JUST GO INTO THE FACEBOOK PAGE AND ALSO OUR WEBSITE, PRIVATE PRESENCE FOR THE COMMISSION? SURE. 
          NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL. 
          WE DO HAVE, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT THE MUSIC COMMISSION AVAILABLE ALL THE TIME ON THE, ON THE MUSIC, 
          [02:20:01]
THE ATF MUSIC.ORG PAGE. 
          ADDITIONALLY, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR VICE CHAIR PATTERSON THIS WEEK OR LATE LAST WEEK ABOUT, UH, BEST PRACTICES AND HOW WE WANT TO MESSAGE THINGS FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION ON OUR SOCIALS. 
          UM, WE CAN, SO I DID CREATE A FACEBOOK EVENTS FOR ALL OF YOU, YOUR 2021 MEETINGS. 
          THOSE ARE UP AND THERE, THE DATES ARE APPROVED. 
          SO THOSE AREN'T GOING TO MOVE. 
          IF THERE'S MESSAGING THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A PENDING ANY EMERGENCY NOTE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO GET OUT WITH THE CITY, THAT'S ALWAYS PRETTY EASY. 
          DO YOU WANT TO JUST SEND ME A NOTE AND I'M HAPPY TO START IMPLEMENTING REMINDERS FOR PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION THE WEEK BEFORE A MEETING, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, UM, WE HAVE TO KIND OF OPERATE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF WHAT SOCIAL MEDIA NETWORKS ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED. 
          UH, I'LL BE HERE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SORRY FOR ME, 70 IS KIND OF BOLD WITH GRAPHIC ELEMENT. 
          UH, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, W THE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE THE MAN IS PERFORMED, IF WE CAN GET A PICTURE OF HIM, UH, UM, MAYBE SOME BULLETS OF LIKE THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA. 
          UM, THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST, YOU KNOW, BEYOND JUST TO KIND OF CUT AND PASTE IS, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERY EVENT SAYING BASICALLY, AND IT'S NOT VERY APPEALING, VERY ATTRACTIVE. 
          UM, SO THAT'S KINDA WHAT I WAS HOPING TO SPICE UP A LITTLE BIT MORE AND JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE APPEAL TO THAT'S A GOOD BEGINNING, EASIER THAN ESTABLISHING YOUR SOCIALS FOR YOU GUYS. 
          UM, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY TALK THROUGH THAT AND IF THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ADDED MUSIC ELEMENT, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THAT SHOULD BE PROMOTED AS SUCH, UM, ALONG WITH CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, SIGN UP, WE CAN TALK ABOUT GRAPHICS FOR SURE. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO LOOP IN OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE LOCATIONS, CONTEXT WITH THE DEPARTMENT. 
          WOULD IT BE A COMPENSATION, UM, FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON, OR IF IT WAS THE DAVIS THE BEST? YEAH. 
          IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH ME, I CAN KIND OF GIVE DAVID SOME CONTEXT AND WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. 
          UM, WE ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO DO A, UM, AFTER YOUR MUSIC COMMISSION MEETINGS, YOU CAN DO A SUMMIT FOR OUR NEWSLETTERS THAT HAPPENS TWO WEEKS LATER. 
          SO WE COULD HAVE A MONTHLY, LIKE LETTER TO OUR CONSTITUENTS IN OUR MONTHLY OR BI-MONTHLY NEWSLETTER. 
          YOU KNOW, JUST WHICHEVER ONE YOU GUYS WANT TO USE FOR THE MONTH. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          , I DON'T KNOW IF HE MIGHT BE DONE A LOT OF COPY AND PASTE FROM THAT, BUT I KNOW HE ALWAYS HAS A GREAT RECAP ON THE AUSTIN, TEXAS EDITION FACEBOOK PAGE. 
          SO MAYBE YOU CAN TAKE SOME OF THAT CAUSE HE ALWAYS REALLY RECAPS THE MEETINGS VERY WELL, BUT I COULD ALSO RECOMMEND ASKING EACH ONE OF YOU THAT WHEN IT'S POSTED ON THE MUSIC MED SITE, THAT YOUR RESPECTIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS PUSH OUT TO THEIR SOCIAL FEEDS AND THAT WOULD HELP TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE INSIGHTS THAT THAT'S ALWAYS INCREDIBLY HELPFUL. 
          WHENEVER INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE POSTING ABOUT THEIR COMMISSION MEETINGS, UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR TO TRACK THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT GRAPHIC DESIGN. 
          I AGREE WITH YOU THAT NEW GRAPHICS WOULD MAKE THE MEETINGS MORE APPEALING TO THE COMMUNITY WILL MAKE THEM WANT TO BE MORE ENGAGED. 
          SO, UM, WE CAN ALL END THE BENEFIT OF THE NOODLES THAT EVERY TWO WEEKS, SO WE COULD GET PUSHED, INCLUDE YOUR UPDATE BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING HAVE PLENTY OF TIME. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU STEPHANIE, ON THAT. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND TRY TO GET BETTER AT COMMUNICATION. 
          I THINK THAT'S ONE, ONE OF MY GOALS FOR THIS YEAR IS HAVE MORE PEOPLE TUNING IN. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          UH, WHERE LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE GOT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UM, THIS IS IT. 
          THREE C 
          [3c. Discussion and Possible Action on a Music Commissioner retreat to discuss goals and vision for 2021.]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A MUSIC COMMISSION, A TREAT TO DISCUSS GOALS AND VISION FOR 2021. 
          WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT TO THE WOODS. 
          WE NEED MOSQUITO. 
          UH, THIS IS A DAY OF A TREE WE'RE GOING TO HANG OUT SOMEWHERE AND, AND, UH, I DUNNO IT COULD, WE, COULD WE, COULD WE GRILL OUT THERE WHERE, WHERE THEY HAVE GRILLS, WHERE IT WAS ON? I DON'T KNOW. 
          I'VE NEVER, I'VE NEVER DONE A RETREAT THIS TIME. 
          IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN A HOUSE FIVE HOURS. 
          SO IF I COULD JUST GIVE A RECAP, THE ARTS COMMISSION TYPICALLY HAS A WORD OF FIVE-HOUR RETREAT OVER A WEEKEND TO DISCUSS, UH, GOALS AND VISION FOR THE YEAR. 
          THIS YEAR, THEIRS IS VIRTUAL. 
          UM, IT'S ACTUALLY THE SUNDAY. 
          YOU STILL HAVE TO POST AND ALLOW CITIZENS TO LISTEN IN, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING THIS YEAR. 
          IT'S VIRTUAL AND IT'S ACTUALLY ON A SUNDAY, SO WE COULD WORK WITH, UH, THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR TO COME UP WITH, UH, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU THAT THE COMMISSION COULD THEN VOTE ON. 
          I KNOW THE NIGHT IS LONG, SO YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          [02:25:02]
HOW LONG IS THE RETREAT AGAIN? THERE'S IS ABOUT FOUR HOURS THAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BEFORE HOURS ON SUNDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          HOW DO Y'ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT? I NOMINATE OUTDOOR TABLE TO GRILL. 
          HEY, GIVE ME A RING FOR EVERYBODY. 
          I LIKE THE IDEA. 
          NO, I, I THINK, UM, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. 
          YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN DO OUR FIRST VIRTUAL AND THEN FIGURE IT OUT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I GUESS WE'LL KIND OF SEND A POLL OUT FOR FIRST DATE. 
          WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          BUT TYPICALLY IT IS IN PERSON, BUT BECAUSE OF COVID, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING IS VIRTUAL. 
          YEAH. 
          I GOT IT. 
          I WAS JUST JOKING AROUND, UH, OKAY. 
          [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WE ARE ALMOST ALMOST THERE AND WE SEE MON RESOLVED ON THE SCHEMA AND TANGO, LIKE I SEEMED LIKE AL WAS GOING TO GO BACK AND COME UP WITH, AND MAYBE OTHERS WERE GOING TO COME UP WITH POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN ALL HAPPEN OFFLINE AT THIS POINT OR IF THAT NEEDS TO BE AN AGENDA ITEMS. UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD DEFINITELY PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. 
          UM, WE'VE ALREADY UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY CAN HAVE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, VISIT SOME IDEAS AGAIN, IT MAY BE, UM, IT MAY EVEN HELP THE BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, DOING IT AT A PARK ONCE A MONTH AND, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GROW IN THE GROUP TO A BIGGER SIZE, WITH MORE SPACE, UH, MEANING MORE SUPPORT AND FUNDING FOR HIS SKIN TO TANGO. 
          SO I'LL TAKE SOME PERSONAL TIME AND TALK WITH MONICA AGAIN AND MAYBE OFFER SOME, UM, SOLUTIONS, UH, THAT SHE MAY BE INTERESTED OR HAPPY WITH WITH ACCESS THAT THEY HAVE. 
          SO JUST LIKE A REPORT BACK BACK, PARTICULARLY FOR NEXT MEETING. 
          YEAH. 
          SOME REPORT BACK, CORRECT. 
          AND MAYBE REAL SOLUTIONS LIKE WHAT PARKS WE CAN USE AND, AND IF IT FITS HER SCHEDULE AND THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          UH, BUT REGARDLESS, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET CREATIVE WITH THE SOUND OUTDOORS, UH, BECAUSE OF THE PERMITTING. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL TAKE SOME PERSONAL TIME AND EXPLORE SOME OPTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT MAYBE WE BROADEN OUT THAT AGENDA ITEM TO TALK ABOUT THE TWO RESOLUTIONS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT THE DOWNTOWN ACTIVATION RESOLUTION AND THE AMENDMENTS TO SHOP THE BLOCK, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER WAYS THAT THE CITY CAN SUPPORT USING ALTERNATIVE SPACES FOR BUSINESSES DURING COVID. 
          UM, SO I, I WOULD MOTION THE, RECALL THAT DISCUSSION. 
          I MEAN, IF THAT'S, UH, IF THAT SOUNDS OKAY TO YOU ALL, I WOULD SAY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE DOWNTOWN ACTIVATION RESOLUTION SHOP, THE BLOCK PROGRAM, AMENDMENTS AND CITY SUPPORT FOR LEVERAGING UNDER UTILIZED AND OPEN SPACES FOR CREATIVE USE. 
          AWESOME. 
          ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS PEOPLE WOULD LIKE THAT TO CONTINUE AS SYSTEMIC RACISM NEXT MONTH? OR IS THAT FURTHER IN THE FUTURE? OH YEAH, WE'LL DEFINITELY, UM, HAVE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLE DISCUSSION ON WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT OUR, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH. 
          SO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION MOTION FOR A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE AFTER UPDATE FROM SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP. 
          YES. 
          SORRY. 
          WAS THERE A, WAS THERE A SECOND ON THE SKIN OF TANGO ITEM? YEAH, I SECOND TO CHRIS GRAMS. THANK YOU. 
          GRAHAM'S MOTION ALSO NEEDS A SECOND REGARDING YEAH, I SUCK AT AND CHARLOTTE UP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OF THE ITEMS WITH WHAT WE HAD DONE? AL MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          I WILL SECOND THAT ANYBODY OPPOSED? ALL IN FAVOR. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          THANKS KIM 
          [02:30:01]
AND ERICA AND C HALL AAV FOR STAYING DOWNTOWN FOR US AND RUNNING THE MEETING. 
          I APPRECIATE EVERYONE. 
          WOW. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          EPIC EVER SO MUCH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          TAKE CARE. 
          BYE. 
          WHO'S SICK. 
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