Feb 23, 2021 Parks and Recreation Board

GOT ONE BOARD MEMBER FAUST PR OR MEMBER MORGAN.

WHO MEMBER LUCA HERE, OR MEMBER TAYLOR AND BOARD MEMBER CYBIL HERE.

WE ARE.

SO YOU GOT THAT SEMI? YES, CHERRY DID.

CITIZEN COMMUNICATION? YES, CHAIR.

SO, UM, AND SO SEND ME, DO WE HAVE SOME

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

WE DO.

UH, MR. JEAN SMITH IS ON THE LINE.

GIVE US JUST A SECOND TO MUTE ON MUTE HIM.

AND, UH, MR. SMITH, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOU'LL HEAR A BUZZER GO AT THE END OF IT.

UH, WHEN YOUR TIME IS COMPLETE.

SO MR. SMITH, WE'RE READY FOR YOU.

YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES, YES.

WE CAN HEAR YOU.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

WELL, HELLO, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

MY NAME IS JEAN SMITH AND I AM THE OWNER OF AUSTIN PARTY CRUISES ON LAKE AUSTIN.

UH, YOU MAY VISIT MY WEBSITE@AUSTINPARTYCRUISES.COM FOR PICTURES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

UM, I ALWAYS TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD A PLEAD TO CONSIDER POSSIBLE OPTIONS TO SAVE MY BUSINESS ON LIKE AUSTIN FOR OVER 25 YEARS, AUSTIN PARTY CRUISES HAS BEEN PROVIDING EXCURSIONS ON LIKE AUSTIN FOR PRIVATE FUNCTIONS, INCLUDING WEDDINGS, RECEPTIONS, BUSINESS FUNCTIONS, AND FAMILY PARTIES.

MY COMPANY HAS PROVIDED A POPULAR RECREATION OF BENEFIT TO THE CITY THAT SHOULDN'T SIT.

THAT SHOULD BE PRESERVED DUE TO THE SIZE OF MY BOAT.

MY BUSINESS RELIES ON ACCESS TO THE DOCK AT WALSH BOAT LANDING.

IT IS THE ONLY LOCATION ON LAKE AUSTIN WITH A LARGE PUBLIC DOCK THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE LARGE BOATS LIKE MINE AND HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN USED FOR THIS PURPOSE.

FOR MANY DECADES, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT BEGAN REQUIRING AND ISSUING PERMITS FOR RENTED BOATS TO ACCESS THE LANDING OFF.

SOME PARTY CRUISES HAS BEEN RECEIVING THIS PERMIT FOR THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS.

HOWEVER, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS ISSUED NEW GUIDELINES FOR THE USE OF WALSH, TOLD LANNY ESSENTIALLY DISCONTINUING PERMITS AND DENYING PUBLIC ACCESS TO ANYONE IN A RENTED BOAT.

THE PARKS DEPARTMENT DIRECTED ALL BOAT RENTAL BUSINESSES TO RELOCATE ELSEWHERE ON THE LEG.

THE PONTOON AND PARTY BARGE BUSINESSES FORTUNATELY WERE ABLE TO COMPLY DUE TO THE SMALL SIZES OF THEIR BOATS AND THEY HAVE SINCE RELOCATED SUCCESSFUL.

HOWEVER, MY BOAT IS UNIQUE.

MY BOAT IS LARGE AND IT RELIES ON THE DOLLAR AND WASCO LANDING.

MY BUSINESS IS NOT RELOCATABLE ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE LAKE.

I WILL HAVE TO CLOSE MY BUSINESS.

IF MY PERMIT IS NOT RENAMED, THIS WILL BE FINANCIALLY DEVASTATING AND EMOTIONALLY UPSETTING TO BECOME A SPLICE AFTER DECADES OF SERVICE.

I'VE EXPRESSED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT I'LL HAVE EXHAUSTED EVERY OTHER POSSIBILITY ON THE LEG.

I AM NOT SEEKING PERMISSION TO DO ANY FORM OF SALE OR CONCESSION ACTIVITY ON SITE.

AUSTIN PARTY CRUISES HAS NEVER CAUSED DAMAGE TO THE DOCKS OR PROPERTY.

WE DO NOT REQUIRE THE USE OF THE SANITATION STATION AND ALL TRASH IS TAKEN OFF SITE.

WE TYPICALLY USE THE LANDING ONLY A FEW TIMES A WEEK, AND RARELY IN WINTER.

MY MOST RECENT PERMIT STOPPED WHEN THE LANDING WAS BEING RENOVATED AND IT WAS FURTHER DELAYED BY COVID RESTRICTIONS.

BUT MY PERMIT CYCLE BEGINS MID MARCH WHEN THE SEASON BEGINS.

THESE HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT TIMES INDEED, BUT WE ARE ANXIOUS TO GET BACK TO WORK.

WE ARE NOW ABLE TO OPERATE WITH REDUCED CAPACITY AND WE ARE RECEIVING REQUESTS FOR RESERVATIONS AS MARCHES UPON US.

I SINCERELY REQUEST THAT THE BOARD HEAR MY PLEA AND WORK WITH ME TO FIND A SOLUTION THAT WILL SAVE MY BUSINESS.

I AM OPEN AND EAGER TO WORK, SO THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE AN IMPORTANT RECREATIONAL ASSET TO THE CITY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THOSE.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

UM, ALL RIGHT THEN, UM, AND ALSO SEE ME.

DID YOU SEE THAT BOARD MEMBER TAYLOR CON IS TRYING TO GET IN? WE WILL GO AND GRAB HER REAL QUICK FROM THE LIST.

SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES,

[A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

AND IF SO, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MOVE TO APPROVE OR DID THEY HAVE ANY CHANGES OR PERFECT BOARD MEMBER MORGAN TO APPROVE AND BOARD MEMBER FAUST SECOND.

AND SO ALL IN FAVOR, EITHER RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY I, IF WE CAN'T SEE HI, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, SO THAT PASSES.

OH, THERE'S BOARD MEMBER TAYLOR.

SO THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AND MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS.

THE FIRST ITEM IS DISCUSSION

[B.1. Discussion and possible action regarding Commission on Seniors Recommendation Number: 20210113-O3B regarding seating in parks, greenbelts, trails and other open spaces. Presenter: Janee Briesemeister, Chair, Commission on Seniors]

AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE COMMISSION ON SENIORS RECOMMENDATION NUMBER (202) 101-1303 B REGARDING SEATING IN PARKS, GREENBELTS TRAILS, AND OTHER OPEN SPACES.

AND DO WE HAVE, UM, CHENEY BREECE MEISTER? YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

AND THANK YOU, CHAIR LEWIS FOR INVITING ME TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS JANIE BREEZE MEISTER, AND I'M CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION OF SENIORS.

I'M SPEAKING TO YOU ABOUT A RESOLUTION THAT WE ADOPTED RELATING TO CD IN PARKS, OPEN SPACES AND ON TRAILED.

UM, LATE LAST YEAR, ONE OF THE COMMISSION'S WORKING GROUPS MET WITH STAFFERS FROM PARK FOR AN UPDATE ON PARK PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT AND ACQUISITION AND DISCUSSION.

DURING THAT MEETING LED TO THIS RESOLUTION, THE IS FRIENDLY ACTION PLAN, WHICH WE'VE DEVELOPED IN COUNCIL ADOPTED IN 2016 CALL FOR MORE SEATING AND PARKS, GREENBELTS TRAILS, AND OPEN SPACES WE'VE NOTICED.

AND WE HEAR FROM OLDER ADULTS QUITE OFTEN THAT SEATED IF LIMITED OR THERE'S NONE AT ALL IN MANY PARKS, THE NON TRAILS.

UM, AND THIS IS PARTICULARLY TRUE AWAY FROM THE CENTRAL CITY.

MORE SEATING WILL ACTUALLY, WE THINK WE'LL BRING MORE OLDER ADULTS AND OTHERS TO USE OUR PARKLAND SEATING ACTUALLY ENCOURAGES WALKING AND ACTIVITIES BECAUSE IT GIVES PEOPLE WHO NEED A REST, A PLACE TO TAKE A WRATH.

UM, WE BELIEVE THAT MORE SEATING WILL ENHANCE ENJOYMENT OF PARKS AND TRAILS FOR EVERYONE.

SO THE RESOLUTION ASKS TWO THINGS FIRST THAT CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE GIVEN TO SEATING, UM, WHEN PLANNING INTO SIGNING PARKS AND TRAILS AND OPEN SPACES.

AND SECOND, WE ARE VERY MINDFUL OF THE CONSTRAINTS ON THE CITY BUDGET ON SEATING AS AN AREA THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR SPONSORS.

OUR SUGGESTIONS INCLUDE EXPANDING AND PROMOTING THE MEMORIAL BENCH PROGRAM AND ALSO ENCOURAGING THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, BUSINESSES, AND GROUPS TO ALSO SPONSOR BENCHES.

SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS RESOLUTION.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

LET A LOT OF HARD WORK THROUGH THE LOGISTICS OF HOW TO IMPLEMENT THIS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND SPEAKING.

SO DO WE HAVE, UM, ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ASK BOARD MEMBER? UM, TAYLOR? NO, I'M GOOD.

THANK SIR.

REMEMBER LUCA.

UM, IS THERE A COST ESTIMATE WITH THIS, UH, PROPOSAL? NO.

UH, WHEN WE SPOKE WITH STAFF, UH, IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, UH, PLANNING AND DESIGNING DIDN'T ADD AN ADDITIONAL PROCESS NECESSARILY.

AND, AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE IDEA OF EXPANDING MEMORIAL BENCHES AND HAVING SPONSORSHIP OF BRANCHES.

SO WE THINK THAT THERE ARE WAYS FOR THE BRANCHES TO BE SUPPORTED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY BUDGET.

AND DO YOU HAVE KIND OF, UH, THE HIT LIST OF WHERE YOU WANT TO START THE PROGRAM? YEAH, I MISS THAT.

NO, WE DID NOT.

WE, UM, WE ARE VERY, WE, WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH PARK QUITE A BIT ON THEIR SENIOR PROGRAM SIDE AND WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE NEEDS OF OLDER ADULTS AND WE FELT IT WAS BETTER TO

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WELL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, THE PARKS THAT I ATTEND, UH, THERE IS SEATING, BUT THEY'RE SPREAD OUT.

AND SO YES, SOMETIMES, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU A LITTLE REST OR IF YOU HAVE A TODDLER WITH YOU OR SOMEONE ELSE YOU USE A LITTLE SLOWER, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO FIND A COMFORTABLE PLACE TO TAKE A BREAK.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.

THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER MORGAN.

I THINK YOU'RE MUTED.

YOU'RE MUTED.

SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

MY QUESTION IS IF I WANT TO SPONSOR AGREEMENTS, HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST ME TO SPONSOR IT? OKAY, WELL, I REMEMBER IS THIS IS KIMBERLY MCNEALY.

I'M SORRY, JENNY.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IN OUR FEE SCHEDULE, THERE IS A, A MEMORIAL BENCH FEE THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROGRAM THAT I THINK THAT, UM, SENIORS, THE COMMISSION ON SENIORS IS, IS RECOMMENDING, AND I BELIEVE IT'S $2,400, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THE FEE SCHEDULE.

BUT THERE IS A PIECE THAT THERE IS A SCHEDULED WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THIS.

OR THERE'S AN ESTABLISHED VRN.

K BOARD MEMBER, MRS. MURPHY, FOLLOW UP ON A BOARD MEMBER.

MORGAN'S QUESTION.

SO 24, IS THAT A, WHAT TYPE OF A BENCHES BACK FOR $24 TO MEMORIAL BANK? SO WE CAN GET YOU THIS CLASSIFICATIONS, BUT IT'S A SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A STANDARD, UM, THERE'S A STANDARD TYPE OF BENCH THAT WE WOULD PUT THROUGH OUT OUR PARK SYSTEM.

IT NEEDS THE PARK SYSTEM STANDARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CAN ENDURE USAGE AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

AND IT ALSO ALLOWS OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S A MEMORIAL BENCH FOR THEM TO BE SOME RECOGNITION.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE THE STANDARDS, WE'LL HAVE TO GET THAT TO YOU.

AND IN A DIFFERENT, I DON'T HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE COULD GET THEM TO YOU, BUT THEY WERE METAL WOOD CONCRETE.

I'LL GET YOU THE STANDARDS.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE.

I THINK THEY MIGHT BE MADE OUT OF RECYCLED MATERIALS, BUT I'LL FIND OUT FOR YOU.

WE'LL MOVE.

AWESOME.

AND THEN, UM, A COUPLE THINGS I NOTICED, CAUSE I REALLY DO LOVE THIS WHOLE IDEA OF MAKING OUR SPACES MORE AVAILABLE TO SENIORS AND PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY CHALLENGES.

UM, I DEALT WITH THAT WITH A FORMER BOARD MEMBER TONE DONOVAN.

AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD NOTICED THAT MIGHT FIT IN HERE IS THAT IF YOU'RE MAKING THINGS COMFORTABLE AND INVITING FOR SENIORS, IT MAKES SENSE SORT OF AT THE SAME TIME TO MAKE IT COMFORTING AND INVITING AND WELCOMING FOR OUR YOUNGEST PEOPLE.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD CONSIDERED, AND THEN NEXT TO IT, MAYBE, UM, A LITTLE EXTRA TRAIL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS FOR THE CHOPS OR A PARK CORE TYPE NATURE ELEMENT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE I DID HEAR BOARD MEMBER LUCA SAY, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO SIT DOWN AND IF THEY HAVE A TODDLER WITH THEM AND YOU KNOW, YOU WANT THE CHILDREN TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO TOO.

I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY INCREASE, YOU KNOW? UM, AND THEN ON THE, UM, PARKLAND GREEN BELTS AND STUFF, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT A LOT OF THAT LAND IS NOT PARKLAND.

IT'S OWNED BY THE WATER DEPARTMENT.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS INCLUDED THERE IN THIS RESOLUTION TO WORK WITH THEM ON THESE SAME ISSUES AND THAT'S ALL, BUT I LOVE THE IDEA.

LOVE IT.

AND JUST RESPOND TO YOUR LAST POINT.

WE ALSO NOTICED SANTA SOME OF THE TRAILS ARE UNDER TRANSPORTATION AND NOT PARTS AS WELL, BUT I GET THROUGH THE MOST THAT MAKES SENSE TO START WITH PARKS, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M SAYING AS FAR AS GETTING SUPPORT ON THE TEST SOLUTION.

THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER.

UM, CUTTING SIDE.

WHAT IS NEEDED ALONG THE TRAIL.

I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT I LIKED THAT THIS HOW THIS DOVETAILS, WE WERE TALKING LAST TIME ABOUT, UM, NAMING FACILITIES AND, AND I THINK THIS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO NAME, YOU KNOW, TO, TO MEMORIALIZE PEOPLE OR TO HONOR PEOPLE IN A WAY THAT WOULD SORT OF GO NICELY WITH WHAT IS,

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THANK YOU, MR. FAUST.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMISSION ON SENIORS BRINGING THIS TO US.

UM, I, MY PARENTS LIVE IN AUSTIN AND SO I SPEND QUITE A TIME QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH THEM AND THEIR FRIENDS.

AND YOU DO SPEND TIME OUT, THEY THOUGHT THE OUTDOORS, WHAT ARE THE PLACES WE CAN GET GOING AND GET SOME OUTDOOR ACTIVITY.

AND THAT ALSO HAVE A PLACE TO SIT FOR THE MOBILITY CHALLENGE, CHALLENGED PEOPLE.

I ALSO REALLY HAVE APPRECIATED THE MEMORIAL BENCH PROGRAM FOR A LONG TIME.

THERE'S A FEW OF THOSE, LIKE WHEN I WAS READING THIS, UM, I THOUGHT ABOUT ARE ACTUALLY VERY SPECIAL TO ME THAT I STILL VISIT FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE.

SO I'M SUPPORTIVE.

IF THERE AREN'T OTHER QUESTIONS I WOULD MOVE APPROVAL.

SO SARAH, ARE YOU GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO SUPPORT THE SENIOR COMMISSION AND WITH THIS RESOLUTION THAT THE PARSON COMMISSION BOARD WILL OFFICIALLY SUPPORT IT? YES.

I WOULD MOVE UP, RECOMMEND THAT WE SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION.

PERFECT.

AND, AND YOU WANT TO Y'ALL UM, SECOND ONE NUMBER COTTON CYBIL YES.

I WAS JUST GONNA, JUST ALSO INDICATE MY SUPPORT, I THINK.

UM, AND I THINK THAT THE INPUT THAT PEOPLE PROVIDED WAS REALLY GOOD.

I THINK, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM MADE OUT OF RECYCLED MATERIALS IF POSSIBLE, BUT I LIKE THE MEMORIAL BENCH.

I LIKE A PLACE FOR SENIORS, SMALL CHILDREN AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES TO BE ABLE TO REST.

SO I THINK, UM, IF ANYBODY REALLY, SO I THINK IT'S A FABULOUS IDEA AND THANKS FOR BRINGING IT TO US JANIE.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THAT.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE A BOAT.

SO ALL IN FAVOR OF FORMER PASSES RESOLUTION, SAY AYE OPPOSED.

IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING THE UPDATE ON THE ZILKER TRAIN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WE SEE THE NEXT ITEM IS

[B.2. Presentation and discussion regarding update on Zilker Train. Presenter: Ladye Anne Wofford, Chief Mission Officer, Austin Parks Foundation]

DO WE HAVE LADY IN WALFORD CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS? I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO, UM, TO INTRODUCE BOTH LADY ANNE AND CARLIN FROM THE AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION.

AND JUST TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT, UM, THIS, UH, OPPORTUNITY CAME ABOUT VIA A COUNCIL THAT PROVIDED DIRECTION TO THE CITY.

I'M SORRY TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, UM, TO WORK WITH THE AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THEM, UM, HELP US AND HELP THE CITY GET THE, UH, THOSE, THE ZILKER, THE FORMERLY, THE ZILKER ZEPHYR.

I THINK THEY'LL TELL YOU SOME OTHER INFORMATION ABOUT THIS TRADE, UH, UP AND RUNNING.

SO IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE THEM TO YOU NOW AND NOW TAKE OVER FROM YOU.

THANK YOU, KIMBERLY.

UH, I, I DON'T HEAR LADY ANNE, SO I'M AFRAID MAYBE SOMEHOW.

OH, YOU'RE HERE.

UM, AND IT WAS A BIT OF A LONG DRAWN OUT PROCESS, BUT WHERE WE ENDED, UH, AT SOME POINT WAS THAT THERE WAS A AS I'M SURE YOU ALL REMEMBER, UH, THE NEWS STORY WAS SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF ABOUT $300,000 WORTH OF REPAIRS NEEDED TO THE TRACKS TO, TO REPAIR THE, THE CURRENT ITERATION OF THE TRAIN.

THANKS FOR THEM.

UM, SO, UH, THANKS FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.

UM, IT'S NICE TO SEE EVERYONE.

I THINK I KNOW MOST OF YOU, UH, I'M COLIN WALLACE, I'M THE CEO OF THE AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION.

UM, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL SHOW UP HERE IN A MOMENT, UH, THAT WILL KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH, BUT, UH, WE'RE HERE TODAY TO, UM, JUST GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE, UH, THE AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION IN REGARDS TO, UH, BRINGING A TRAIN BACK TO ZILKER PARK.

UM, SO NEXT SLIDE.

UM, SO, UH, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO ONE MORE SLIDE IF YOU DON'T MIND.

UM, SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO IN MAY OF TWO 19, 2019, UH, THE TRAIN STOPPED WORKING BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EROSION, UH, AT THE TURNAROUND SPOT.

UM, AND PRETTY IMMEDIATELY WHEN THAT NEWS HIT THE HIT THE PRESS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED VERY, THE PARKS FOUNDATION HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT NOW FOR 30 YEARS.

UM, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH KIMBERLY AND ALL LEVELS OF HER TEAM.

UM, AND WE WERE PRETTY IMMEDIATELY IN HER OFFICE ASKING HOW WE CAN HELP, UH, GET THE TRAIN RUNNING AGAIN.

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AND WE INITIALLY OFFERED TO HELP FUND IT, RAISE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT.

UM, BUT WHAT BECAME CLEAR OVER, UH, AND KIMBERLY PLEASE FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN AND CORRECT ME WHEN I SAY SOMETHING IDIOTIC OR WRONG.

UH, BUT IT BECAME CLEAR THAT THERE WERE SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT WERE, THAT WERE BEING NAVIGATED AND, UH, PART ULTIMATELY CAME AND THE CAME TO AN END, UH, TO THE CONTRACT WITH THE LAST CONCESSIONAIRE.

UM, AND BASICALLY THE PARKS FOUNDATION WERE ASKED BY THE COUNCIL TO IF WE WOULD BE WILLING TO SORT OF STEP UP AND, AND GET THE TRAIN BACK ON TRACK.

AND SO, UH, HERE WE ARE NOW A YEAR OR SO LATER, UM, WE, WE MADE A PRETTY, UH, GENUINE EFFORT TO WORK WITH THE FORMER CONCESSIONAIRE, UH, TO EITHER BUY THEIR TRAIN OR FIGURE OUT A WAY TO WORK WITH THEM.

AND UNFORTUNATELY IT JUST, IT DIDN'T WORK OUT.

UM, UH, THEY REALLY WEREN'T INTERESTED IN RUNNING IT ANYMORE AND THE, AND THE PRICE THEY WANTED FOR, UH, THE TRAIN THAT THEY OWNED WAS DIDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR US.

AND SO WE, WE WENT DOWN THE ROAD OF BASICALLY STARTING OVER AGAIN AND, AND GETTING A NEW TRAIN BUILT, UM, AND NEW TRACKS, UH, AND REALLY RETHINKING KIND OF EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.

AND SO, UH, NEXT SLIDE WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, SO WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM.

UM, I KNOW ALL OF, YOU KNOW, LADY ANNE, UH, WHO'S REALLY HEADED THIS PROJECT UP FOR US, BUT, UH, AND I'M GONNA HAND THIS OFF TO HER TO SORT OF CONTINUE FROM HERE, BUT WE ARE, OUR TEAM IS SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

WE ARE.

UM, AND, AND YOU'LL LEARN THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION THAT EVERYTHING'S A TRAIN PUN.

UM, BUT EVERYTHING'S ON TRACK RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS THING UP AND RUNNING IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT SOME PERMITTING ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH BEFORE WE CAN GET THERE, BUT WE FEEL CONFIDENT THE FUNDRAISING HAS STARTED OFF REALLY STRONG.

UM, PEOPLE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

UM, I'M NOT FROM AUSTIN, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS AND EVERYBODY THAT'S BEEN IN AUSTIN FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME HAS A STORY ABOUT THE TRAIN, LOVES THE TRAIN, RODE THE TRAIN WHEN THEY WERE A KID, THEIR KIDS RAN, RODE THE TRAIN.

SO IT'S A REALLY EXCITING PROJECT TO BE A PART OF.

UH, AND AS I SAID, I'M GONNA, I'M GOING TO KICK IT OVER TO LADY ANNE TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH SOME OF THE DETAILS, UH, OF, OF WHERE WE ARE.

THANKS, COLIN.

UM, WELL, HELLO, EVERYONE.

AND THANKS FOR HAVING US.

UM, SOME OF YOU, IT'S BEEN QUITE SOME TIME SINCE I'VE TALKED TO AND GIVEN AN UPDATE AND, YOU KNOW, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I HOPE, UH, EVERYBODY, UM, WEATHERED THE STORM.

UM, BUT AS COLIN SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE STARTED FROM SCRATCH AND IT'S BEEN A LOT OF FUN, AND I'M SUPER EXCITED TO KIND OF TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

SO, UM, WE HAVE, UH, IN ADDITION TO MYSELF, OUR PROJECT LEADS, WE HAVE BOBBY COMENITY, UM, WHO IS ON OUR BOARD AND SHE'S ALSO A SEASONED TO COO.

AND SO WE'RE VERY THRILLED TO HAVE HER, UH, EXPERTISE IN BUSINESS OPERATIONS.

WE HAVE KATIE ROBILLARD WHO, UM, IS ON THE APS STAFF AND SHE IS OUR IN-HOUSE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.

SHE HAS DONE SOME FABULOUS WORK.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TWO MCCOMBS, UM, MBA FELLOWS, UM, WHO ARE HELPING US REALLY THINK THROUGH OUR STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MANUFACTURER'S GUIDELINES.

SO LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, SO AS FAR AS OUR PROJECT EXPERTISE, WE ALSO, UM, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF LET YOU ALL KNOW WHO'S KIND OF ON OUR LARGER TEAM OUTSIDE OF THE APF STAFF.

SO THE RAILWAY FACTORY IS CUSTOM BUILDING OUR TRAIN THEY'RE OUT OF PHOENIX, ARIZONA.

WE HAVE DUNAWAY ASSOCIATES HERE IN TOWN DOING OUR CIVIL CONSTRUCTIONAL ENGINEERING.

WE HAVE FRANK AND VICTOR, UM, WHO ARE, UH, DOING OUR BRAND DEVELOPMENT.

UM, I KNOW YOU'RE ALL EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT THE NEW NAME OF THE, UH, OF THE TRAIN IS GOING TO BE.

AND SO ARE WE, UM, WE ALSO HAVE TWO CONSULTANTS FROM MCKINSEY, STEPHEN SMITH AND STANLEY, AND THEN GIANT NOISE WHO DOES APS, UM, PUBLIC RELATIONS IS ALSO ON BOARD TO DO, UM, PUBLIC RELATIONS FOR THE NEW TRAIN.

SO COLIN HAS ALREADY TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

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THIS.

UM, YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW WHY WE ARE HERE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY SEE, UM, OUR MISSION IS GETTING THE TRAIN UP AND RUNNING AS SAFELY AND QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

SO HERE'S OUR PROJECT TIMELINE.

SO IN THE SUMMER, UM, AND I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH, UM, WITH SEVERAL OF YOU, UM, DURING THE SUMMERTIME TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON KIND OF WHERE THINGS WERE, BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO COMPLETE ALL OF THAT KIND OF ANALYSIS AND RESEARCH PHASE OF THE PROJECT.

SO THEN IN THE FALL, WE REALLY FOCUSED MORE ON DESIGN WORK, DEVELOPING THE NEW TRAIN ROUTE.

UM, AND WE ALSO, HOPEFULLY YOU ALL NOTICED THAT WE LAUNCHED THE TRAIN NAMING CONTEST.

UM, WE HAVE THIS ENTIRE TIME BEEN WORKING ON THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT.

UM, SO THAT DID START ACTUALLY IN THE, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, EARLY SUMMER.

SO, UM, WE'RE NOW IN PERMITTING FOR THE NEW ROUTE.

UM, AND DON'T WORRY, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU, UH, UM, SOME DRAWINGS OF THAT LATER.

UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, REALLY KIND OF BUILDING THE STRUCTURE AND THE FRAMEWORK, UM, FOR OUR OPERATIONS IN THE SPRING.

UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE HAVE SECURED OUR PERMITS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN CONSTRUCTION AND I'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT.

AND SOME FUTURE SLIDES, AND THEN OUR HOPE IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO LAUNCH, UM, AT THE END OF THE SUMMER, UM, HOPEFULLY IN Q3.

AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS, AS COLIN SAID, WE'VE ALREADY KICKED OFF OUR FUNDRAISING AND WE ARE PLANNING TO CONTINUE THAT, UM, UP UNTIL OUR LAUNCH.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

SO BEFORE GO BACK AND IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING BACK ONE, UM, THE, OUR APPROACH SLIDE.

SO, UM, I DID, ONCE YOU ALL TO SEE THAT THIS IS THE LOOK OF THE, UM, THE NEW TRAIN.

SO IF ANY OF YOU GUYS ARE HISTORY BUFFS OR INTERESTED, UM, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF MODELED AFTER, UM, THE MOPAC EAGLE, UM, W WHICH BEFORE THAT WAS, UM, WAS, UH, I THINK THE SUNSHINE EXPRESS.

UM, SO ANYWAY, I JUST THOUGHT THAT IT WAS REALLY COOL THAT IT HAD THE SAME LOOK AS A HISTORIC, UH, TRAIN HERE IN TEXAS THAT WENT THROUGH THE AUSTIN AREA.

GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WE HAVE SOME KEY FOCUS AREAS ON HOW WE REALLY WANT TO APPROACH THE PROJECT.

SO, UM, FIRST WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE TRADITION.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE BRINGING THIS BACK, IT'S GOING TO BE BACK IN THE SAME PLACE.

UM, AND THAT'S REALLY, UM, SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE I THINK AS AUSTIN CONTINUES TO, TO GROW AND CHANGE, PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE THOSE LIKE FAMILIAR, LIKE CHERISHED PLACES AND MEMORIES, UM, AND IN AUSTIN.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE BRINGING IT BACK, BUT WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE EXPERIENCE, UM, FOR OUR NEW GUESTS.

UM, ANOTHER PRIORITY IS FOR US TO TAKE SAFE AND PROMPT ACTION.

AND THEN, UM, FINALLY, UH, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO FUND THIS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY SO THAT IT'S NOT THE BURDEN ISN'T BEING TAKEN ON BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO, UM, IN REGARDS TO PRESERVING THE TRADITION AND JUST BRINGING BACK THE TRAIN, UM, WE ARE HAVING THE TRAIN CUSTOM BUILT TO FIT THE CURRENT SITE.

UM, WE ARE REPLACING ALL OF THE RAILWAY THAT HAD BEEN REMOVED BY THE PREVIOUS CONCESSIONAIRE.

SO THERE WILL BE ALL BRAND NEW TRAIN, RAIL AND TIES.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING DEPOT, UM, TO MAKE IT MORE BEAUTIFUL AND ALSO A VERY FUNCTIONAL SPACE FOR OUR STAFF THERE.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE, UM, MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TUNNELS, TO, TO BEAUTIFY THEM AND MAKE IT A MORE INTERESTING AND EXCITING EXPERIENCE FOR OUR GUESTS.

ALSO BE DOING SOME WORK TO THE LANDSCAPING AROUND CAUSE THERE'S CURRENTLY SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES.

THERE'S A LOT OF TREE TRIMMING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPING RIGHT NOW IS JUST NOT WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE.

UM, SO NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UM, THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS THAT WE ARE GOING TO IMPROVE THE EXPERIENCE.

SO THE FIRST WAY IS BY IMPROVING THE ADA ACCESSIBILITY FOR THE TRAIN AND FOR THE DEPOT.

UM, AND THAT MEANS MORE PLACES FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOBILITY CHALLENGES TO ACTUALLY RIDE THE TRAIN.

SO WE'LL HAVE A GREATER CAPACITY, BUT ALSO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT BECAUSE OF THE RECENT WORK THAT WAS DONE ON THE CAFE, THERE'S ACTUALLY BETTER ACCESS NOW, UM, FROM THE PARKING LOT.

AND SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT ACCESS STRAIGHT UP TO THE DEPOT AND ONTO THE TRAIN.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT MOVING FROM A CASH ONLY SYSTEM TO A SYSTEM THAT WILL, UM, ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE DIFFERENT PAYMENT OPTIONS AND ALSO TO, UM, PURCHASE TICKETS IN ADVANCE.

UM, WE ARE ALSO HOPING THAT WE CAN, UM, HAVE A TICKETING SYSTEM THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE GROUPS BECAUSE WE KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL WANT TO HAVE SCHOOL TRIPS AND BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO ALSO, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE WANT TO HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS AND SPECIAL DISCOUNTS

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FOR LOCALS.

SO HERE'S THE AMENDED ROUTE, AND THIS IS OUR SOLUTION, UM, TO GETTING THE TRAIN UP AND RUNNING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO DO THE ENGINEERING WORK, WHICH WAS SO COSTLY, UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, FIX THE WASHOUT AREA INSTEAD, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO.

AND THIS IS CURRENTLY IN PERMITTING IS TO JUST MOVE THE ROAD OVER A TEENSY BIT, UM, THERE AT LA LUNA POINT AND TURN THE TRAIN AROUND RIGHT THERE AT THAT LITTLE BEAUTIFUL SPOT SO THAT YOU JUST GET A GLIMPSE OF THE RIVER BEFORE YOU, UM, TURN BACK AROUND.

SO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE WRITTEN THE TRAIN, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT THERE'S A, UH, A GENTLEMEN WHO OFTEN PLAYS THE GUITAR AND SINGS HERE.

AND SO THAT'S THE SPOT, UM, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING THAT THE TURNAROUND WILL BE.

UM, SO NEXT SLIDE.

SO ENGAGING OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS IS REALLY CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT.

SO, UM, AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION IS LIKE WE SAID, LAUNCHING OUR FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGN.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD A LOT OF INTEREST.

UM, WE THINK WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN RAISING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE FUNDS.

SO PART OF THE RESOLUTION IS THAT WE WILL, UM, WE ARE COMMITTING TO, UM, REINVESTING A PORTION OF THE PROCEEDS FROM THE TRAIN TICKET SALES BACK INTO ZILKER PARK AND TO OUR PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORK WITHIN SILVER PARK.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE'RE SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THAT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR CREATIVE REVENUE SOURCES FOR OUR PARKS.

UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, TO USE THIS PROJECT AS A WAY TO, UM, SUPPORT SOAKER PARK AND ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE IN ZILKER PARK.

UM, NEXT, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR OPERATIONS.

SO, UM, W YOU KNOW, WE, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THIS AS, UM, THROUGH A LENS OF, OF A LONG-TERM VISION.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE BUILDING THE CONCESSION AGREEMENT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MINIMUM OF A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT, THAT WE WANT THE TRAIN TO LIVE ON MUCH, MUCH LONGER THAN THAT.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY THINKING AHEAD, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE TRAIN IN THE ZILKER VISIONING PLANNING PROCESS.

UM, BECAUSE WE DO THINK THAT THERE'S, UM, A LOT OF POTENTIAL, UM, FOR THE TRAIN TO BECOME MORE THAN JUST A SHORT RIDE, BUT IT COULD POSSIBLY BECOME A PEOPLE MOVER, UM, WHICH WE THINK COULD REALLY HELP WITH ADDRESSING SOME OF THE, UM, PARKING ISSUES AND OTHER CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE HAD ABOUT ACCESSING DIFFERENT PARTS OF ZILKER PARK AT BEING SO LARGE AND THE PARKING BEING SO LIMITED.

SO WE'RE OPEN TO THOSE IDEAS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO ROBUST, UM, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION WITHIN THE, UM, THE VISION PLANNING PROCESS.

SO, UM, PART OF THE SUCCESS IS GOING TO DEPEND ON OUR MARKETING STRATEGY.

AND SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UM, REALLY KIND OF GOTTEN, WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THE END OF THE EDUCATION AND AWARENESS PHASE.

UM, IN MARCH, WE ARE GOING TO BE LAUNCHING THE NEW NAME AND THE BRAND RIGHT NOW, FRANK AND VICTOR IS WORKING ON THE LOGO AND THE LOOK IN THE FIELD.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE JUST KIND OF CONTINUING TO WORK TOWARDS GETTING PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW TRAIN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING CULMINATING WITH A GRAND OPENING, UM, IN, IN PHASE FOUR IN AUGUST NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UM, IT IS, UH, QUITE A FINANCIAL UNDERTAKING.

AND SO I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO SEE WHAT THE CAPITAL, UM, ESTIMATED CAPITAL BUDGET IS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING RIGHT NOW AT ABOUT 800,000, UM, FOR THE, UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THERE, UM, FOR THE LOCOMOTIVE, THE PASSENGER COACHES, THE RAIL, AND TIES THE INSTALLATION AND THE DEPOT IMPROVEMENTS.

NOW, AGAIN, UM, THIS IS AN ESTIMATED BUDGET BECAUSE WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE A PERMIT, SO WE DON'T, AND WE DON'T HAVE BIDS FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS.

AND THIS ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY OF THE OPERATING COSTS.

UM, SO THIS IS A VERY LARGE, LARGE SCALE PROJECT FOR AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE COMMITTED TO TAKING IT ON.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO ALL BE AWARE OF THE, UM, THE MASSIVE SCOPE, UM, FOR US, IT'S A, QUITE, QUITE A LARGE UNDERTAKING.

AND NEXT SLIDE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF ANYONE HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR FOR CALLING.

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AND YES, W WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL JUST GO AROUND AND ASK BOARD MEMBERS IF THEY DO HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO, UM, AND I KNOW THAT, UM, WARD MEMBER TAYLOR MAY HAVE TO POP OUT.

SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? UM, YES, I DO.

SO I STILL GET THAT THE CAPITAL COSTS, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER COSTS? SO I SAW THAT YOU HAVE A PR COMPANY AND, UM, SOME OTHER, UH, CONSULTANTS, UH, ATTACHED TO THIS, AND JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE PAID FOR, IS THAT GOING TO BE PAID FOR, FOR REVENUE FOR THE TRAIN OVER TIME? AND CAN YOU TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? SURE.

SO FOR OUR STARTUP COSTS RIGHT NOW, UM, WE DON'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S SOME OPERATING COSTS THAT WE JUST, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE COSTS FOR YET.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, OUR PERSONNEL AND OUR, UM, OUR TICKETING SYSTEM, WE'RE STILL RESEARCHING THE SYSTEM THAT IS GOING TO BE THE BEST FIT FOR THIS SITE.

AND SO I D SOME OF THE COSTS SUCH AS I DON'T HAVE YET, UM, WE ALSO ARE LOOKING INTO WHAT THE APPROPRIATE STAFFING MODEL IS GOING TO BE.

UM, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE WE NEED, UM, HOW MUCH SHOULD WE PAY THEM, ALL OF THAT.

AND SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT ON THE OPERATING SIDE, BUT WE'RE, THAT'S KIND OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS TRYING TO FIGURE ALL OF THAT OUT.

UM, BUT YES, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION CURRENTLY, UM, WE KIND OF SEE IT AS WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT LAUNCHED.

AND THEN, UM, THE TRAIN, IDEALLY THE TRAIN OPERATIONS, YOU KNOW, SHOULD PAPER, PAPER ITSELF, RIGHT.

ONCE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

HMM.

COLIN, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? NO, I THINK YOU, UH, HIT IT AND I MEAN, I THINK I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T POINT OUT THAT OUR ENTIRE TEAM HAS ESSENTIALLY PUT OUR OTHER JOBS, THE AUNT HOLD, UH, THIS IS, UH, THIS HAS BEEN A AS LIGHT AND SAID A HUGE UNDERTAKING FOR US.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE ARE NOT IN THE TRAIN BUSINESS NOR HAVE WE EVER BEEN IN THE TRAIN BUSINESS BEFORE THAT, NOR DID WE EVER ANTICIPATE BEING IN THE TRAIN BUSINESS.

SO WE'RE ALL LEARNING AS WE GO.

UM, IT TURNS OUT THE TRAIN WORLD IS A VERY STRANGE, UH, AND VERY ACTIVE PLACE, BUT, UH, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A LABOR OF LOVE AND WE THINK IT'S WELL WORTH THE TIME AND ENERGY.

AND I'LL JUST ADD THAT.

IT'S LIKE THE TRAIN COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SO FRIENDLY AND SO WILLING TO SHARE INFORMATION AND NOW HAVE FRIENDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO ARE TRAINED OPERATORS.

UM, I'VE JUST LEARNED SO MUCH FROM THEM.

IT'S REALLY, IT'S BEEN A BLAST.

SO, YEAH.

YOURS LOVE TO HEAR Y'ALL'S IDEAS AND THEY'RE, UM, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THEM TOO.

ALRIGHT.

UM, BOARD MEMBER CON SEIBEL, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS, BECAUSE I CAN SEE WHAT AN UNDERTAKING THIS HAS BEEN.

AND I KNOW FROM JUST HEARING THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF PEOPLE ARE TO GET A DRAIN BACK.

SO YES, I AGREE.

AND I THINK EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING, UM, SOMETHING FUN AND SOME, SOME HAPPY NEWS RIGHT NOW.

SO POOR MEMBER MASON MURPHY.

OH, I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

UM, I HAD A COUPLE THINGS AND GET TO SEE YOU LATER.

UM, ON THE END YOU DID ADDRESS IT ON THE IMPROVING THE EXPERIENCE.

ONE THING THAT MIGHT PUT ON YOUR RADAR IS TO CONSIDER INVESTING THE JOURNEY FROM WHERE YOU, SO IT'S LIKE A REALLY FUN, COOL, 10 MINUTE WALK WITH KIDS, IF YOU DON'T WANT EVERYONE ALWAYS TRYING TO PARK IT SO FAR, THE ACCESS TO THE TRAIN.

SO YOU DID ADDRESS IT FOR LONGER TERM IF IT IS A PEOPLE MOVER, BUT WE MIGHT, UM, BE PROACTIVE AS TO WHERE WE WANT PEOPLE TO PARK.

AND IT S IN THAT TURN, BUT THAT WAS MORE WHEN YOU WERE NAME IS ANNOUNCED, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED WORKING WITH OUR, UM, LOCAL MUSIC COMMUNITY TO COME UP WITH SONG OR A JINGLE OR SLOGANS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF THEM ARE LOOKING FOR WORK AND, UM, I HAD LOTS OF IDEAS.

SO WHEN YOU, I I'M A TRAIN UP.

SO, UM, POLAR EXPRESS EVENT DURING THE WINTER TIMES REALLY AWESOME.

SO, YEAH, THAT'D BE FUN, BUT LET ME KNOW HOW I CAN HELP.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, KATE AND I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SHARE TOO MUCH, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY ALREADY, UM, TALKING ABOUT PARTNERS TO HELP WITH THE TRANSPORTATION PIECE.

I LOVE YOUR IDEA ABOUT, UM, GETTING THE MUSIC COMMUNITY INVOLVED AND I HOPE, YOU KNOW, UM, I DEFINITELY HOPE WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT YES.

UM, I'M ALL

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UM, SAMMY, I THINK SOMETHING HAPPENED TO BOARD MEMBER FOUL.

SHE'S GOT OFF THE SYSTEM SOMEHOW.

SHE SAID SHE CAN'T UNMUTE, SO, OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

SO GO AHEAD.

LET ME HEAR MORGAN, A GREAT PRESENTATION.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

MY FOUR YEAR OLD GRANDDAUGHTER.

THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER, LUCA.

I THINK, UM, ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE, I'M VERY EXCITED AND I SEE THE PUBLIC WILL BE TOO.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

THAT'S YOUR BACK THINGS.

HI, UH, I DON'T HAVE THE VIDEO CAPABILITY, MY APOLOGIES.

UM, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SINCE COLIN THREW DOWN THE GAUNTLET AND HIS INTRODUCTION, I WAS GOING TO SHOW Y'ALL A PICTURE OF ME AT MY FOUR YEAR OLD BIRTHDAY PARTY RIDING THE TRAIN.

UM, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I GUESS THE, THE THINGS I WAS, I DIDN'T GET TO SEE ALL OF IT CAUSE I HAD TO GET OFF.

I HOPE THAT THE, UM, THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE DEPOT WILL, YOU KNOW, SORT OF BE A PUBLIC PROCESS THAT WE CAN NOT IF CLOSED, BUT JUST KEEP EVERYBODY INFORMED.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SOMEWHAT IN THE ZILKER VISION PLAN, AS WELL AS, UH, THE PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION COMPONENTS THAT THANK YOU.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I SAY MODIFICATIONS TO THE DEPOT, IT'S REALLY JUST TO IMPROVE ACCESS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN WHEELCHAIRS AND IT'S NO LIKE, UM, NO CHANGES TO THE BUILDING WHATSOEVER.

IT'S MORE OF JUST MAKING IT LOOK A LITTLE MORE, MORE BEAUTIFUL.

IT NEEDS PAINT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S MORE OF MAINTENANCE WORK, UH, THEN SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THE BUILDING ITSELF.

UM, I MEAN THE ONLY OTHER THING I CAN THINK OF IS THERE'S BEEN TIMES, AND I KNOW OTHER PARENTS HAVE TO HEAR WHAT THE TUNNELS WHERE THERE'S LIKE SOME KID KIND OF RUNNING THROUGH.

AND SO I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOME WORK ON THE TUNNELS, SO HOPEFULLY THAT CAN BE SORTED OUT AS WELL.

WE HAVE, UH, UM, DEVELOPING OUR SAFETY PLAN AND OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PIECE RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY BEING THOUGHT OF, OKAY, THANK YOU.

OF COURSE.

AND HEY, PLEASE EMAIL US THAT PICTURE.

SEE IF I WANT IT IN THE PERMANENT RECORD, BUT WE WANT TO SEE IT IN MY MIND, I'M IN THE THROWS OF A JOURNEY, A PASSIONATE THREE-YEAR-OLD ABOUT TRAINS.

SO ALSO I FEEL, YEAH.

AND I WOULD JUST ADD TO LADY ANNE'S POINT ABOUT THE SORT OF SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S LARGELY, UH, THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS ARE ALL ABOUT MAKING THE FLOW OF WAITING IN LINE, BUYING A TICKET.

UM, JUST BEING THERE ON SITE KIND OF FLOW BETTER.

WE'VE ALSO ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THE CONCESSIONAIRE WHO'S GOING IN AND THE ZILKER CAFE.

UM, AND WE STARTED HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER ON THE OVERALL SITE EXPERIENCE AND KIND OF CROSS PROMOTE AND WORK WITH THEM TO, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT'S REALLY ALL ONE SITE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF THE SAME PEOPLE.

SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY COLLABORATIVELY WITH THEM TO, UH, TO MAKE THE EXPERIENCE BETTER FOR EVERYONE.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO, UM, EVERYBODY'S, UM, GRATITUDE FOR WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING FOR TAKING THIS ON, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S JUST BEEN AN AUSTIN INSTITUTION FOR SO LONG AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE IT, UM, GO AWAY AND YOU GUYS JUST CAME IN THERE AND GRABBED IT AND WENT WITH IT.

AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SO THE TRADE ITSELF, IS IT GOING TO, HAVE YOU DECIDE, IS IT GOING TO BE ANOTHER, IS IT GOING TO BE AN INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE? IS IT GOING TO BE ELECTRIC OR IF Y'ALL MADE THAT DECISION YET? YES, IT'S GOING TO BE ELECTRIC.

GOOD, GOOD.

AND THE SEATS BE A LITTLE BIT WIDER SO THAT THERE'S A LITTLE MORE SPACE FOR IT, BUT, UM, IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS OF THE, UM, THE, THE TUNNEL, THE UNDERPASS THAT GOES UNDERNEATH THE BARTON SPRINGS ROAD.

UM, WE'RE VERY LIMITED ON HOW WIDE THE, UM, THE CARS CAN BE.

AND SO IN TRAIN MODELS, YOU CAN HAVE A 16 INCH GAUGE OR YOU CAN HAVE 24 THAT'S

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FOUR WAS TOO BIG.

SO 16 WAS OUR ONLY OPTION.

AND WITH THE ELECTRIC, WELL, THERE'LL BE A CHARGING STATION THERE THEN THERE AT THE PARK THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO INSTALL TOO.

IS THAT, IS THAT YEAH.

UM, AND SO WE'VE, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING WITH, UM, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ON THE ELECTRIC, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ELECTRIC CAPACITY, EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT.

IT'S ALREADY THERE.

SO WE JUST HAVE TO PUT THE PERSECUTION IN AND IT'LL BE JUST LIKE A FEW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PLUGGING IN YOUR CAR.

NO, I LOVE THAT WHOLE CONCEPTION OF AN ELECTRIC MOPAC EAGLE.

THAT'S REALLY, UM, THAT'S GREAT.

AND THEN ONE MORE AND I JUST WANTED TO ALSO JUST FOLLOW UP WITH, UM, SHE MENTIONED THAT THERE MAY BE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THE ROUTE AT SOME POINT, BECAUSE I DO THINK GIVEN ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH PARKING, PARKING AND ACCESSIBILITY, IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF WE COULD HAVE A TRAIN THAT COULD SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE ASSETS TO.

AND VERY NICE.

AND, AND HAVE YOU BEEN, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE, OR SEEN ANY OF THE SILVER MASTER PLAN JUST TO SEE THAT THIS KIND OF IS COMPATIBLE WITH THAT OR, YEAH.

NUMBERS, IF I COULD JUST TAKE THAT ONE REAL QUICK.

SO THE ZILKER VISION PLAN IS STILL UNDERWAY, RIGHT? IT HASN'T EVEN STARTED.

AND PART OF THE ZILKER VISION PLAN IS FOR THE LONGER TERM, UM, SITUATION RELATED TO THE TRAIN.

SO SHOULD THERE BE A DIFFERENT ROUTE? SHOULD IT BE A POOP PEOPLE MOVE OR SHOULD IT JUST SIMPLY BE, UM, AN AMUSEMENT TRAIN? SO I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT AS THAT PROCESS MOVES ALONG, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT AND SEE IF IT GIVES YOU A LITTLE, UH, TRY TO HIGHLIGHT THE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT VISION PLAN FOR YOU TONIGHT.

BUT, UM, THE REASON WHY THE TRAIN IS WHERE IT IS TODAY IS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE ANY KINDS OF, UM, MAJOR CHANGES TO THE PATH, UM, TO THE, THE TRACKS AND TO THE PATHWAY OF THAT CHAIN UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THE FULL ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, WHICH IS JUST ABOUT TO BE CLICKED OFF.

BUT I, I SUSPECT THAT FOLKS, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY PREDICTIONS, YOU KNOW, AHEAD OF TIME, BUT I DO SUSPECT THAT FOLKS WILL TELL US IN THAT, IN THE VISION PLAN THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE THAT TRAIN IS MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN IT IS TODAY.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR NEARLY.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR, UH, FOR LADY ANNE OR COLIN? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.

WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND THANKS FOR KEEPING US.

WE REALLY WERE GRATEFUL FOR THAT TOO SO FAR.

THANKS FOR HAVING US.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND GIVE YOU ANOTHER UPDATE.

SO EVERYBODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON AND FEELS IN THE LOOP.

THAT WOULD BE DEBATE.

AN IMPOSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE PREFERRED SCENARIO FOR THE DOWERY ARTS CENTER REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

THANKS.

Y'ALL AND I, I ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY A BIG THANKS TO KIMBERLY AND HER ENTIRE TEAM.

THEY'VE BEEN AS ALWAYS REALLY GREAT TO WORK WITH AND, UH, REALLY, REALLY DROPPED THINGS TO HELP THIS, THIS KEEP MOVING ALONG SO BIG.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE,

[B.3. Discussion and possible action regarding a recommendation to the City Council of the preferred design scenario for the Dougherty Arts Center Replacement Project. (PARD Long Range Plan Strategies – Relief from Urban Life, Urban Public Spaces, Park Access for All; SD23 Outcomes – Health & Environment, Culture & Lifelong Learning) Presenters: Kevin Johnson, Acting Project Management Supervisor, Parks and Recreation Department and Robert Byrnes, Principal, Studio 8 Architects]

AND DO WE HAVE KEVIN JOHNSON AND ROBERT BURNS.

OKAY, GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS KEVIN JOHNSON HERE.

I DON'T KNOW.

YOU CAN SEE AND HEAR ME.

AND I SEE ROBERT'S ON THE CALL AS WELL.

AND WE WERE ALSO LOOKING TO GET JONATHAN PEARSON FROM STUDIO EIGHT ARCHITECTS, AND I BELIEVE LEANNA JUST JOINED AS A PANELIST AS WELL.

IT MIGHT KICK OFF THIS DISCUSSION.

KEVIN JOHNSON WHO SERVES AS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE DOCK.

GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS.

UM, LEANNA CAN ROCHA ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, THE DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION FOR THE DIRTY ART CENTER REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

AND AS A REMINDER IN MAY OF 2019, UH, FOLLOWING, UH, PLANNING AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UH, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE BUTLER SHORES LOCATION AS THE SITE FOR THE NEW, UH, DOCK AT THE SAME TIME AT THAT MEETING COUNCIL PROVIDED DIRECTION, UH, TO PART, TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES AND RETURN FOR, UM, APPROVAL.

AND TODAY THE PROJECT TEAM WILL PRESENT THESE ALTERNATIVES AND SEEK RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BOARD.

I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE PROJECT IS STILL IN THE PRELIMINARY PHASE, WHICH MEANS THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN IS NOT RESOLVED YET.

A DESIGN DEVELOPMENT WILL TAKE PLACE AFTER, UH, AN ALTERNATIVE HAS BEEN SELECTED.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL PASS IT ON TO

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AND KEVIN WILL INTRODUCE ALSO THE OTHER, UH, MEMBERS OF THE TEAM THAT ARE WITH US TONIGHT.

OPTION THAT, UH, OBVIOUSLY OUR DEPARTMENT IS NOT FUNDED FOR, BUT THESE OPTIONS EXPLORE.

THANK YOU, LEANNA.

AND AS THE PRESENTATION COMES UP, I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU TO THE BOARD AS WELL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN UPDATE.

I LEANNA SAID THE CONTEXT WELL THAT WE ARE STILL EARLY IN OUR PROCESS AND WE ARE MOVING TOWARD A CITY COUNCIL PRESENTATION TO SEEK APPROVAL, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A BETTER VETTED DESIGN SCHEME.

THEN, UM, THEN WE SHOWED IN 2018, WHICH WAS REALLY MORE OF A FEASIBILITY STUDY AND A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PHASE TO SHOW THAT, UM, THE DAX REDEVELOPMENT AT THE BUTLER CHORES PARK SITE WAS FEASIBLE.

UM, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT IT WAS SPRING OF 2019, THAT WE CAME AND PRESENTED TO YOU AND STARTED THIS DISCUSSION TO RELOCATE THE, THE DECK TO, UM, BUTLER SHORES PARK.

AND, UM, THE BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL WERE ULTIMATELY, UH, IN APPROVAL OF THAT.

SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE IN A POSITION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A MORE CERTAIN FUTURE FOR THIS FACILITY.

UM, IN THAT TIME WE'VE RELEASED RFQ FOR BOTH A, UM, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES DESIGN TEAM AND A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, BOTH OF WHOM ARE UNDER CONTRACT NOW, UM, STUDIO EIGHT ARCHITECTS IS THE LEAD ARCHITECT FOR THE DESIGN TEAM, AND THERE'LL BE JOINING US ON THE CALL TONIGHT AND BARTLETT COCKE IS OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK.

WHO'S UNDER CONTRACT NOW JUST FOR, UH, PRE-CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.

UH, NEXT TIME PLEASE.

AND AGAIN, FOR THOSE OF YOU, YEAH, AND I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, THIS MAY BE FAMILIAR, BUT THIS IS JUST A SITE MAP THAT PROVIDES SOME CONTEXT FOR OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

THE EXISTING DOHERTY SITS, UM, AT THE LOCATION OF THE PURPLE ASTERISK ON THIS MAP.

AND THE NEW SITE FOR, UM, THE, TO YARD CENTER IS WITHIN BUTLER SHORES PARK NEAR THE YELLOW ASTERISK.

UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THE USES OF THE SITE, THE THREE LITTLE LEAGUE BALL FIELDS TO THE WESTERN EDGE OF BUTLER SHORES WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE, UM, BY THE SOUTH AUSTIN LITTLE LEAGUE, THE LIMITS OF INSTRUCTION FOR THE DIRTY SIDE ARE REALLY THE TWO AISD SOFTBALL FIELDS THAT ARE ORIENTED IN THAT NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION.

UM, THEY'RE BOUND BY A TUMI ROAD ON THE SOUTH SIDE, BY THE ZACH SCOTT THEATER COMPLEX ON THE EAST, AS WELL AS THE PARDON MAIN OFFICE AND, UH, LADY BIRD LAKE AND THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL TO THE NORTH.

UM, THERE IS A LITTLE RIVERSIDE DRIVE RIGHT AWAY EXTENSION THAT COMES INTO THE SITE ON THE NORTH SIDE AS WELL, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE SCHEMES THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU TONIGHT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO JUST QUICKLY TO REVISIT THAT WHAT LIANA SET UP AS FAR AS CONTEXT THAT WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE PREVIOUS DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL AND THE GRAPHIC THAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THIS SCREEN WAS THE CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO FROM THE PLANNING PROCESS AND 2018 AND 2019.

LIKE I MENTIONED THAT THIS WAS REALLY A HIGH LEVEL PLANNING PROCESS TO BE SURE THAT, UM, THIS WAS A SUITABLE LOCATION FOR THE DOHERTY TO BE RELOCATED, UH, IN TERMS OF ITS BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND SOME OF THE, OF VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE SITE WHILE ALSO, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING THIS, UM, SITE AS A, AS A CULTURAL PARK ASSET FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UM, SO THE BUTLER SHORES LOCATION WAS APPROVED IN MAY.

AND WITH THAT APPROVAL, THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT THAT WE STUDY SOME ADDITIONAL ALTERNATIVES TO SEE HOW THE BUILDING COULD, UM, COULD ADJUST ON THE SITE IN SOME WAYS.

AND THOSE ARE A NEW ONE THROUGH THREE, AND AS JONATHAN PRESENTS OPTIONS LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, UM, THIS GAMES WILL ALIGN WITH THE DESCRIPTIONS ON THESE NUMBERS, ONE, TWO AND THREE.

SO MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO TRY TO KEEP THOSE IN MIND IF POSSIBLE.

BUT, UM, THE FIRST OPTION IS A SCENARIO IN WHICH THE DOHERTY'S IT'S ON THE SITE AND THE EXISTING PART MAIN OFFICE REMAINS, UM, AS IT IS TODAY.

AND THE PARDON MAIN OFFICE IS SHOWN IN THE BLUE RECTANGLE ON THE, ON THE GRAPHIC YOU'RE SEEING HERE.

UM, THERE'S A SECOND OPTION THAT COUNCIL ASKED US TO STUDY, WHICH WAS THAT A NEW DECK AND A NEW PART OF MAIN OFFICE MIGHT BE REBUILT ON THE SITE.

AND I DID WANT THE CLEAR, THE NEW PART MAIN IS NOT FUNDED.

UM, THE COURTYARD CENTER WAS FUNDED IN THE AMOUNT OF $25 MILLION AND THE 2018 BOND, BUT THE INTEREST AND POTENTIALLY REMOVING OR REBUILDING THE PART MAIN OFFICE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT OUR DEPARTMENT IS FUNDED FOR.

THE THIRD OPTION IS SIMILAR, UH, THAT THE NEW DECK WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE SITE, BUT IT SUPPOSES THAT THE EXISTING CARD MAIN OFFICE IS RELOCATED, UM, OR REMOVED FROM THE SITE ALTOGETHER.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S ANOTHER

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AND THE INTEREST IN EXPLORING THESE, UM, CAME FROM A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IT, IT WAS PRIMARILY ROOTED IN, UM, REMOVING SOME CONGESTION FROM THE TUMI ROAD SIDE OF THE SITE, AND MAYBE PULLING THE CENTER OF MASS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT NORTH ON THE SIDE, CLOSER TO THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE ENTRANCE.

UM, SO THERE'S DEFINITELY AN INTEREST IN BALANCING THE, UM, VEHICULAR IMPACT TO THE SITE WITH THE ADDITION OF THE DOOR TO THE ARTS CENTER HERE, JUST KNOWING THAT, UM, ESPECIALLY DURING FESTIVAL SEASON AND WHEN THE EVENTS THAT ZACH'S GOT THEATER ARE TAKING PLACE, THERE IS A LOT OF YOUTH IN THIS AREA OF TOWN.

SOME ADDITIONAL DIRECTION WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT WAS A CONSOLIDATED PARKING SOLUTION THAT WOULD NOT ONLY MEET THE NEEDS OF THE DOOR OF THE ARTS CENTER, BUT ALSO POTENTIALLY REMOVE SOME EXISTING SURFACE PARKING AND PICK UP SOME OF THE CURRENT NEEDS OF BOTH THE ZAK EIGHT OR COMPLEX.

AND THE ADJOINING PARK USES ON THIS SITE.

UM, YOU MAY BE AWARE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF SURFACE PARKING THAT SUPPORTS THE, UH, EXISTING BASEBALL FIELDS.

AND SO WE DO HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER AS PART OF OUR TEAM.

THAT'S BEEN STUDYING A COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION FOR THIS SITE, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED THAN WE THAN WE INTENDED TO GET INTO TONIGHT, BUT I DID JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT WE HAVE A TRAFFIC DEMAND MANAGEMENT PLAN AS A PART OF THIS DESIGN PHASE THAT WE'VE PUT FORWARD ABOUT THE INTEREST IN A PARKING STRUCTURE ON THIS SITE, WE WERE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO LOCATE THAT UNDERGROUND, TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE ON THE SITE.

AND WE WERE ALSO, UM, DIRECTED SEEK SOME ALTERNATIVE FINANCING MECHANISMS TO DELIVER ON ITEMS LIKE THAT, UM, UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE, AND ALSO TO SEEK AN INTEREST IN PHILANTHROPIC DONATIONS, UM, FROM THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT IS A CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE INITIATED WITH THE FRIENDS GROUP OF THE DOOR YARD CENTER, AND WE'VE CONNECTED THEM WITH OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS TO, UM, BE IN POSITION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CAPITAL CAMPAIGN IF INDEED, THAT, UM, INTEREST IS THERE.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE DESIGN PHASE FIVE, PLEASE, I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE EXISTING PART MAIN OFFICE BECAUSE WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO LOOK AT A FEW SCENARIOS THAT SUPPOSES THAT THIS BUILDING WOULD GO AWAY, UM, FROM THE SITE.

AND THE BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 1959 AND LATER HAD AN ADDITION BUILT ONTO IT, BUT THIS WAS THE FIRST PERMANENT HOME OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY.

AND IT HAS SOME CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE THAT MAKES IT ELIGIBLE FOR CULTURAL AND ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE THAT MAKES IT ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS FACT ALONE IS NOT THE PRIMARY, UM, CONSTRAINT OR CONSIDERATION AS WE WERE PUTTING THESE SCHEMES TOGETHER, BUT WE DID WANT EVERYONE TO BE AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO SERVING AS OUR OFFICE, UH, CURRENTLY THERE IS A HISTORIC CONTEXT THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE LOOK AT THESE OPTIONS.

YOU KNOW, PHILANTHROPY OR OTHER SOURCES THAT WE WOULD, UH, GO, GO AHEAD AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT NOW.

SO THIS IS A QUICK, A LOT OF THE STAKEHOLDER AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS MOST RECENT PHASE OF DESIGN, UH, THE INTEREST IN, YOU KNOW, STUDYING ADDITIONAL SCENARIOS ON THE SITE, WARRANTED THAT WE MEET AGAIN WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, WE HOPE YOU HAVE MANY FORUMS FOR THE CONVERSATION, UM, COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSE MEETINGS AND ELECTRONIC SURVEYS, BUT I WANTED TO POINT OUT SPECIFICALLY THE SMALL GROUP MEETINGS THAT WE HELD.

UM, WE REALLY WANTED OUR PROJECT TEAM TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE MEETING WITH ALL OF THIS SPECIFIC STAKEHOLDERS OF THE DECK AND BECAUSE THEIR ARTS PROGRAM IS SO BROAD, THERE'S JUST A WEALTH OF INFORMATION THAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE ABOUT HOW THE FEEDER AND GALLERY PROGRAMS NEED TO BE ACCESSED, TO OPERATE MOST EFFICIENTLY, UM, HOW THE ART STUDIOS NEED TO OPERATE TO, UM, EXCUSE ME, JUST LOST MY WINDOW, OKAY.

TO DELIVER THE BEST RESULT FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO THESE SMALL GROUP MEETINGS WERE REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN, UM, PUTTING OPTIONS THAT YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT EFFORT THAT OUR TEAM WENT TO, TO REALLY MAKE SURE WE WERE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE USERS OF THIS PROJECT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, THAT PROCESS CAME A MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE NEW DECK, AND I WON'T READ IT HERE, BUT I DID JUST WANT TO, BEFORE I HAND IT OFF TO OUR ARCHITECTS, I, I WANTED TO POINT OUT A PROCESS THAT, UM, IT'S PRETTY LATE AND OVERLAND PARTNERS, UM, HAVE, HAVE ELABORATED ON.

THERE'S A DESIGN ELEMENT IN THEIR OFFICE CALLED THE HUMAN HAND PRINT, WHICH IS REALLY INTENDED TO TAKE INVENTORY OF WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE

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PROJECT TEAM.

UM, BEFORE ANY DESIGN WORK IS UNDERWAY TO CAPTURE THAT AND REVISIT IT AS WE MOVE THROUGH, UM, OUR DESIGN MILESTONES TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING ON WHAT WE SET OUT TO DO INITIALLY.

AND I THINK THIS MISSION STATEMENT REALLY SPEAKS TO BOTH THE INTENTIONS OF THE DAC AND OUR DEPARTMENT AND HOW THOSE ARE, UM, TIED TOGETHER.

AND THERE ARE FIVE WORDS THAT ARE INTENDED TO BE, UM, EXPRESSED IN OUR FINISHED PRODUCT HERE.

AND THAT IS THAT THE DECK WILL BE WELCOMING, COMMUNAL INSPIRING, SUSTAINABLE AND CREATIVE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND AT THIS POINT, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO JONATHAN PEARSON.

HE'S THE PROJECT ARCHITECT FROM STUDIO EIGHT.

THAT'S BEEN LEADING THIS EFFORT WITH US FOR A FEW YEARS NOW.

SO JONATHAN, ARE YOU THERE? YEAH.

THANK YOU, KEVIN.

THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US, UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS AND CONTINUE THE PROCESS FORWARD.

UH, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE OPTIONS, WE WANTED TO ENUMERATE SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS THAT EXIST ON THE SITE AND THERE, THEY KIND OF SHOW UP IN THIS MULTICOLOR MAP HERE, UH, THE DARK GREEN CIRCLES THAT YOU'RE SEEING PHIL, THEN THOSE ARE, UH, HERITAGE OAK TREES THAT, UM, KIND OF SURROUND THE EXISTING PART MAIN AND ARE A FEW OTHER SPOTS ON THE SITE.

THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TO PROTECT THEM.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE SOME LIGHTER DASH CIRCLES.

THOSE ARE COTTONWOODS, WHICH ARE NOT PROTECTED TREES NECESSARILY OR NOT HERITAGE TREATING THOSE FAIRLY, BUT SOME OF THEM ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO BE PROTECTED.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING AS WELL TO, TO COME UP WITH A FOOTPRINT THAT, UH, MAINTAINS THOSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

THE, UH, MORE, THE LARGER CONSTRAINTS REALLY ARE THE UNDERGROUND FACILITIES.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE, UH, IN THE PURPLE, UH, FILL AREAS.

IT'S GOING NORTH, SOUTH SETTING THE SITE IN HALF.

THAT'S A DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT COMES FROM BARTON SPRINGS ROAD, UH, TO LADY BIRD LAKE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SITE, YOU'LL SEE A DARKER PINK FILL AND THAT'S, UH, AN UNDERGROUND, UH, WATER UTILITY EASEMENT, A WASTEWATER UTILITIES.

AND EXCUSE ME, UH, THAT, UH, REALLY KIND OF HOLDS US OFF THE TUMI ROAD.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE OPTION, BUT, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KINDA KEEPS US FROM BEING SO CHAPTER EIGHT CLIENT AND MAKES US KIND OF, UH, TAKE AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH, THE SITE PLAN.

ANYWAY, THE FINAL ONE IS THIS LIGHTER PINK LINE.

THAT'S GOING NORTH A LITTLE NORTHEAST IS THE SITE.

THERE'S ACTUALLY AN UNDERGROUND WITH WATER TRANSMISSION TUNNEL.

UH, THE LIBRARY IS ACTUALLY BUILT OVER IT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE.

AND SO THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF HOPE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY BUILD OVER IT.

IF WE KEEP OUR FOUNDATION SHALLOW ENOUGH, IT'S ABOUT 40 TO 50 FEET BELOW GROUND.

UM, AND CENTRAL LIBRARY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD OVER TOP WHERE WE'RE HOPING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, ALTHOUGH WE'RE TRYING NOT TO.

SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A WATERFRONT SETBACK BOUNDARY ON THE NORTH SIDE AS WELL.

UH, IT'S ALSO A RELATIVELY FLAT SITE AND, UH, THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF DROP-OFF RIGHT AT THE TRAIL.

UH, GOING DOWN TO LADY BIRD LAKE IN SOME PLACES AS MUCH AS 30 FEET AND OTHER PLACES IT'S CLOSER TO 20.

UH, SO YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE SPACES LEFTOVER ON THE SITE IS OTHER TWO AISD SOFTBALL FIELD AND A LITTLE BIT OF GREEN SPACE NORTH OF THERE.

I THINK IF YOU FACTOR IN THE SOFTBALL FIELDS, AREN'T REALLY USABLE TO EVERYONE OR NOT EVERYONE FEELS COMFORTABLE USING THEM.

UH, THERE'S ABOUT 3.1 ACRES OF PARKLAND CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, UH, BUTLER SHORES.

AND ONE OF OUR GOALS WAS TO, TO IMPROVE ON THAT, UH, NEXT SLIDE.

WE, UM, SO IN THAT IMPROVEMENT WHERE WE'RE WEAVING THE BUILDING BETWEEN ALL OF THE CONSTRAINTS AND ALSO TRYING TO MAKE IT FEEL A PART OF THE PARK, BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US.

SO THE FOUR OPTIONS THAT KEVIN MENTIONED OPTIONS, ONE A AND ONE B BOTH LEAVE PART MAINE IN, IN ITS CURRENT STATE, UH, MAYBE EVEN DOING A SMALL ADDITION TO IT OR A BIT OF REHAB TO THE EXISTING BUILDING OFTEN TO COMPLETELY GOES AWAY, DOES AWAY WITH THE PART MAIN BUILDING AND RELOCATES, UH, TO A NEW OFFICE THAT'S ON THE SOUTHWEST PORTION OF THE PROJECT SITE.

UH, AND THEN OPTION THREE IS THE PART WOULD GO AWAY COMPLETELY.

UH, BUT WE TRY AND REUSE SOME OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING, UH, DUE TO ITS HISTORIC CHARACTER AND ALSO KIND OF A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.

THE THING THAT'S HIVE ALL THESE TOGETHER AS THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE GREEN SPACE AND TO THE TREES, UH, AND THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THE OUTDOOR SPACES TO CREATE SPACE FOR PUBLIC ART, FOR THE DISPLAY OF PUBLIC ART, AND IN SOME CASES, MAYBE EVEN THE CREATION OF PUBLIC ARTISTS.

UH, SO THERE'S A TON OF THINGS THAT WE GO THROUGH AND I CAN KIND OF LIFT HERE THAT ARE IMPORTANT.

THIS IS LOAD IN AREAS, DROP-OFF AREAS, UH, THE UNDERGROUND PARKING THAT KEVIN MENTIONED, RELATIONSHIP TO THE ZACH SCOTT THEATER RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PARK BUILDING, UM, THE, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EXPANSION AND ACTUALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IN ALL THESE OPTIONS IS DRAWN THEM A LITTLE BIGGER THAN WE NEED, UH, WITH THE IDEA THAT, UH, IF THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING CAME THROUGH THROUGH,

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UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FINALLY WE WANT VERY MUCH TO HAVE AN IDENTITY FOR DOHERTY.

IT WANTS TO BE SEPARATE FROM PART, AND IT DEFINITELY WANTS TO BE SEPARATE FROM THE ZACH SCOTT THEATER.

IT MEANS SO MUCH SO MANY PEOPLE.

WE WANT TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR IT TO BE THE BEACON THAT IT IS IN THE CITY, UH, AND, AND CONTRIBUTE TO ITS MISSIONING OF, YOU KNOW, WELCOMING FOLKS IN, AND BEING A VERY INCLUSIVE, UH, SOCIAL GATHERING SPACE FOR EVERYONE THAT USES IT.

AND TO THAT END, YOU KNOW, IN WANTS TO HAVE CONNECTIVITY TO THE TRAIL, BUT WANTS TO HAVE CONNECTIVITY TO THE REST OF THE CITY.

UH, IT DOESN'T WANT TO BE, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF TUCK AWAY.

WE WANT IT TO BE VERY VIBRANT AND, AND NOTICEABLE.

SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, I'LL TRY REALLY BRIEFLY TO, TO SHOOT THROUGH THESE, BUT OPTION ONE, A PARDON OFFICE REMAINS.

UH, THE, THE THING THAT KIND OF TIES THIS TOGETHER IS THE IDEA THAT THERE'S AN ARCH PROMENADE THAT HAPPENS, UH, ALMOST IN ACCESS WITH, UH, THE ENTRY TO ZACK AND KIND OF COMES IN AND THE FRONT DOOR OF THE NEW DOOR.

AND HE WOULD BE, UH, OPPOSITE THE, THE ZACK THERE, UH, THERE'D BE A SECONDARY INTEREST TO THE SOUTH SIDE.

THIS LOOKS SORT OF THE SCHOOL THERE THERE'S FIVE MAIN PROGRAM ELEMENTS THAT SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE GALLERY AND THE THEATER SPACE, UH, THE SCHOOL, THE ADULT STUDIOS, UH, AND THEN THE OUTDOOR SPACES.

AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF WEAVE ALL THESE THINGS TOGETHER, TIE THEM TOGETHER, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS.

UH, AND IT'S IDEAL TO KIND OF GIVE THEM DIFFERENT SITUATIONS ON THE SITE.

SO, UH, THE IDEA HERE IS THERE'S NOT REALLY A BACK DOOR, UH, THAT YOU CAN KIND OF GAIN ENTRY TO THE BUILDING FROM PRETTY MUCH ALL FOUR SIDES AND HAVE THAT DIRECT CONNECTION TO THE PARK AND TO NATURE.

UH, THE, THE THING THAT YOU'LL SEE IN, IN ALL OF THESE SLIDES IS THAT WE'VE EXTENDED THE IDEA OF THE TRAILHEAD COMING OFF OF LADY BIRD LAKE, UH, NORTH, SOUTH THROUGH THE SITE.

AND SO THAT'S THE KIND OF LARGER GRAY SIDEWALK THAT YOU SEE, UH, WEAVING ITS WAY THROUGH THE SITE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OPTION ONE.

B IS, UH, THE ONLY ONE THAT PUTS THE BUILDING TO THE WEST OF ALL OF THE UNDERGROUND EASEMENT.

UH, IT ALSO PROVIDES AN EXTENSION TO RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND, UH, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT IF YOU SEE THE TWO SQUARES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY POP-UPS FOR THE UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE, UH, WHICH WOULD HAVE A GREEN ROOF OVER IT.

SO IT FEELS AS THOUGH IT'S, UH, A LOT OF GREEN SPACE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A PARKING GARAGE THAT WILL BE SHARED BETWEEN ZACK AND DOHERTY AND POTENTIALLY, UH, PART OFFICE, UH, AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE DISTRICT.

THE THING TO POINT OUT WITH THIS IS WE KNOW THAT IT LOOKS AS THOUGH IT'S VERY MUCH IN SERVICE TO THE VEHICLE, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE CAN MAKE THE SPACES THAT CONNECT THE DOHERTY TO THE ZACH SCOTT, UH, END OF THE PART OFFICE, UH, VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.

AND ALSO THAT GIVES US MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DISPLAY OF PUBLIC ART.

UH, THE, THE THING WE WANT TO GUARD AGAINST IS MAKING SURE NOT TO CUT THE PARK IN HALF.

AND SO WE WANT VERY MUCH TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GREEN SPACE, UH, FLOWS THROUGH THE SITE, UH, AS IT GOES TOWARDS DOWNTOWN, THERE'S QUITE A FEW WONDERFUL VIEWS FROM THE SITE TO DOWNTOWN.

UH, THE, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING THAT'S ABOUT OPTION ONE B IS IT DOES ALLOW ACCESS FROM BOTH RIVERSIDE AND TUNI.

UH, AND WE THINK THAT WE CAN CONTROL CUT-THROUGH, UM, BY, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT WE'VE DECOUPLED THE PARKING FROM THE PROJECT WHERE WE'RE TREATING IT AS SEPARATE FROM THE BUILDING.

UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT GONNA JUST NECESSARILY HAVE IT BE FREE AND OPEN PARKING, BUT THAT'S A DISCUSSION FOR LATER.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE OFTEN TOO, UH, WHERE THE PARDON THE EXISTING PART GOES COMPLETELY AWAY AND THEY GET A NEW FACILITY DOWN ON THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE SITE.

YOU CAN SEE IT.

AND NONE OF THESE REALLY GET OUT TO, TO ME ROAD THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE BACKS WE HAVE ON THE UNDERGROUND UTILITY EASEMENTS.

UH, BUT THIS GIVES CARD, UH, PRESENCE ON THE REST OF THE BUTLER SHORTS PARK, UH, AND ALSO GETS DIRTY, A WONDERFUL COURTYARD TO THE NORTH KIND OF WRAPPING ITSELF AROUND THOSE EXISTING LIVE OAKS THAT ARE JUST ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.

UM, SO THIS REALLY OPENS ITSELF UP TO THE NORTH FOR DOHERTY, JUST PARTS AND PRESENTS TO THE SOUTH, TRY AND MAINTAIN AN URBAN SOLUTION.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IN A LOT OF THESE WHERE WE'RE CONTEMPLATING THE PARKING LOT THAT CURRENTLY SERVES ZACK, UH, WOULD MAYBE BE TURNED INTO A CIVIC ART SPAZA, OR MAYBE EVEN AN UNDERGROUND GARAGE.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.

UH, THE, THE ARTS PROMENADE STILL EXISTS HERE.

IT'S JUST A LESSER FUNCTION, THIS A SMALLER SCALE ACCESS.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, OPTION THREE IS VERY SIMILAR.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCES THAT ARE THE TWO MAIN DIFFERENCES, THE PARDES A NEW OFFICE IS NOT IN THE SITE.

IT'D BE COMPLETELY LOCATED OFF SITE AND THE EXISTING PART BUILDING.

SOME OF IT WOULD BE REPURPOSED FOR DOHERTY'S USES.

WE'D PROBABLY SNUG THE GALLERY SPACE INTO IT AND USE THE EXISTING SPACES IN SUPPORTIVE GALLERY, UH, OR OTHER PUBLIC CIVIC USES.

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UH, AGAIN, ALL THE SAME ELEMENTS ARE THERE.

AND I WANT TO SAY THAT ALL THE ELEMENTS ARE GENERALLY THE SAME SIZE THROUGH ALL OF THESE OPTIONS.

UH, THERE'S A LITTLE MORE CIRCULATION NEEDED IN ONE VERSUS THE OTHER, UH, THE SAME HOLDS TRUE FOR PARKLAND.

UH, I MENTIONED BEFORE THE EXISTING PARKLAND IS ABOUT 3.1 ACRES.

UH, ALL OF THESE OPTIONS AVERAGE BETWEEN EIGHT AND A HALF TO NINE AND A HALF ACRES OF PARKLAND.

SO IT'S A DRASTIC IMPROVEMENT AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S KEVIN MENTIONED WE'RE TAKING AWAY PARKING SPACES, UH, WE'RE TAKING AWAY, UH, ASPHALT AND BUILDING FOOTPRINTS AND KIND OF COVERING IT BACK UP WITH, WITH GREEN SPACE IN AN EFFORT TO ENHANCE BOTH THE PARK AND, UH, THE CONNECTION TO THE TRAIL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO REAL BRIEFLY, I WANT TO WALK THROUGH PARKING AND I KNOW WE'RE THROWING A LOT OF INFORMATION AT YOU VERY QUICKLY, UM, BUT TYING IT BACK TO THOSE FOUR OPTIONS, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, OPTION ONE A, UH, WE'RE SHOWING, UH, AN UNDERGROUND PARKING UNDER THAT CIVICS ARTS POSIT THAT RIGHT NOW IS IN FRONT OF JACK SCOTT OR BETWEEN ZACK JOHN AND THE PART OFFICE, UM, OPTION ONE B THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AN UNDERGROUND GARAGE THAT'S IN THE PARK THAT'S COVERED WITH A GREEN ROOF.

UH, AGAIN, IT PROVIDES THE MOST FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO IT, UM, AND POTENTIALLY IS EASIER WAY TO KIND OF BEAR THE BURDEN BETWEEN TUMI AND RIVERSIDE.

ALTHOUGH THE PENN IS A LITTLE MORE TOWARDS RIVERSIDE ON ALL OF THESE OPTIONS, TWO AND THREE DAY AS THEY SHOW THE ABILITY TO DO EITHER THE UNDERGROUND ARTS PARKING OR PARKING UNDER THE BUILDING.

I WILL SAY THAT THE IT'S COMPLICATED TO PARKING UNDER THE BUILDING OR UNDER THE ARTS POSITIVE, BUT IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE.

SO IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE CONSIDERING, UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO I THINK I'LL TURN IT BACK UP, EVAN, FOR HIM TO KIND OF MENTION A LIVE OPTION ONE BE AS THEIR PREFERRED SCHEME.

ACCESS TO THE DOOR, TO THE ART CENTER ON A ROAD DIET.

THANK YOU, JONATHAN.

AND I, I WILL SAY, I KNOW WE ARE THROWING A LOT OF INFORMATION AT, AT THE BOARD AND WE WILL JUST OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK TO OPTION ONE B.

UM, SO WHEN CONSIDERING THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS OF THE DEC STAFF AND THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS PROJECT, AND WHEN WEIGHING POTENTIAL RISKS TO THE PROJECT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT, A DOWNTOWN AND CONGESTED URBAN SITE, UM, THE PROJECT TEAM AND THE DOHERTY STAFF FEEL THAT OPTION ONE B IS, UH, THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD AND, AND THE BEST DESIGN SCHEME FOR THE NEEDS OF THAT FACILITY AS JONATHAN WAS DESCRIBING.

IT'S UNIQUE IN THAT IT'S THE LOAN OPTION THAT IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE EASEMENTS ON THE SITE, AND IT HAS A STRONG RELATIONSHIP TO THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.

UM, ULTIMATELY IF THE BOARD IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MERITS OF THIS SCHEME, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO PROCEED MORE FULLY INTO DESIGN, AND WE'D OBVIOUSLY BE INTERESTED TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK AND THOUGHTS, UM, ABOUT WHAT IS STRONG ABOUT THIS SCHEME AND WHAT COULD BE IMPROVED.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I WILL TOUCH JUST ON A FEW POINTS THAT ADDRESS THE DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS THAT, UH, JONATHAN SPOKE TO EARLIER.

UM, LIKE WE MENTIONED, THE WESTERN LOCATION ON THE SITE AT THE TERMINUS OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE GIVES THIS, UH, LOCATION OF A REALLY STRONG CIVIC PRESENCE AND AN IDENTITY FOR THE DOOR TO YARD CENTER.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THAT TRAIL ADJACENCY, WHICH PROVIDES A NATURAL OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE ACCESS TO THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL IN THAT LOCATION.

UH, IT MAINTAINS THE EXISTING PART OFFICE AND REDUCES RISK TO THOSE AMAZING HERITAGE TREES THAT HAVE GROWN IN AROUND THAT BUILDING.

UM, ALSO WE'VE MET WITH THE ZACH THEATER TEAM MULTIPLE TIMES JUST TO KEEP THEM ABREAST OF OUR PROGRESS.

AND THIS IS A SCHEME THAT MINIMIZES IMPACT TO ZACH'S ONGOING OPERATIONS THAT HAS A BETTER SPATIAL RELATIONSHIP TO THE EXISTING COMPLEX, AND THAT IT'S NOT ABUTTING THE ZACK.

UM, I'M STARTING TO KLEBERG AND THE WIZARD HUNT BUILDINGS ON THEIR SITE.

UM, AND THIS NEXT ONE IS SIGNIFICANT TOO, AND MEETING WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.

UM, THE FACT THAT THE PARKING GARAGE IS DECOUPLED FROM THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE TWO, UM, A CONSTRUCTED AT THE SAME TIME, WHICH REDUCES THE OVERALL PROJECT DURATION AND COSTS.

SO BY, YOU KNOW, SHORTENING THAT CRITICAL PATH, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME NATURAL ADVANTAGES TO THAT AS WELL.

UM, THE SCHEME ALSO, AS JONATHAN MENTIONED, PROVIDES GARAGE ACCESS FROM BOTH STREETS.

WE FELT LIKE IT WAS BALANCING THE TRAFFIC LOAD BETWEEN TUMI AND RIVERSIDE DRIVE, UM, IN A WAY THAT MET THE, UM, THE ASKS OF COUNCIL.

AND IT ALSO PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMOVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF EXISTING SURFACE PARKING, AND EVEN PUT THAT RIVERSIDE DRIVE

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AND WE KNOW THERE'S INTEREST IN REALLY CELEBRATING THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE AT THE ENTRY OF THE DOOR YARD CENTER.

AND, UM, THIS IS DEFINITELY A SCHEME THAT WE THINK WE CAN DO THAT AND THAT WE WOULD EXPLORE MORE IN THE DESIGN PHASE.

AND LASTLY, THIS, THIS IS NOT UNIQUE TO OPTION ONE B, BUT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, THE WINDING PATH THAT CONNECTS THE GARAGE TO THE FACILITY, IT, UM, REALLY ACTIVATES THE PARKLAND VIA THAT PROMINENT.

AND IT PROVIDES A NATURAL OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THE AIPP PROGRAM WHO WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO WORK WITH ON THIS PROJECT.

UH, THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT AIPP ELEMENT TO THE BUILT DESIGN.

SO WITH THAT, UM, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE SOME CONTACT INFORMATION AND SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, BUT WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

THANK YOU FOR THE, UM, PRESENTATION.

SO, UM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD.

NOW, I'LL ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS, LET'S START WITH LUCA.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

UM, I, I LIKED THE OPTION THAT STAFF PICKED AS WELL.

I THINK THAT IT'S A VERY THOUGHTFUL OPTION AND AS YOU'VE DESCRIBED IT, IT SOLVES A LOT OF THE ISSUES, UM, TO SEE THAT, UH, THAT THAT WAS THE ONE THAT THEY CHOSE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONE I WOULD HAVE CHOSEN.

I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEPS ON THE PROJECT.

UH, BOARD MEMBER, UH, CON SEIBEL.

THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION AND VERY THOROUGH.

AND, UM, I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE COMING FROM THE EAST SIDE.

SO YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT THE ROAD DIET ON RIVERSIDE.

UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S A BUS THAT COMES SELL FROM THE BAR, BUT I'M WONDERING ABOUT TO, UM, MY QUESTIONS ARE MOSTLY ABOUT ACCESS, UM, TO PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE, IT'S MOVING FARTHER WEST AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF TUCKING IT IN BLIND THE ZACK.

AND SO MY CONCERN IS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING ON BARTON SPRINGS OR WHO ARE COMING ON RIVERSIDE, UM, ARE, ARE THERE, HAVE YOU, WE LOOKED AT BUS STOP ACCESSES FOR THAT.

AND, UM, WE'RE ALSO AWARE THAT THIS LMR CORRIDOR PLAN HAS COMPLETED.

I THINK THAT'S AT, UH, ALMOST A FINAL STAGE OF DESIGN AND IS MOVING INTO CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.

SO THERE ARE SOME PRETTY LARGE SCALE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.

UM, THERE'S ALSO AT THE SITE OF THE SCHLOTZKY'S RESTAURANT AT THE CORNER OF, UM, TUMI ROAD IN SOUTH LAMAR.

THERE'S A PUD PROJECT THAT WAS JUST APPROVED FOR CONSTRUCTION THERE, AND THERE WILL BE A CAP METRO BUS STATION RIGHT AT THAT CORNER ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION.

UM, SO THE SITE DOES LEND ITSELF TO PUBLIC TRANSIT.

SO THAT'S COMING EAST THOUGH.

THAT'S MY SPECIFIC QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POD IS GONNA, WHAT, WHAT BUSES ARE COMING THAT DIRECTION? YES, IT'S, IT'S SOUTH OF THE ACTUAL FACILITY, BUT IT IS, UM, COMING FROM THE EAST SIDE, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY.

YEAH, THAT WAS ONE QUESTION.

AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, JUST BECAUSE WE HAD CHILDREN THAT PLAYED BASEBALL THAT CORNER ON TO ME IS REALLY DANGEROUS.

I KNOW TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD ACCIDENTS TURNING INTO TOO MANY.

IS THERE ANY, ANY PLAN IN THAT? DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S GOING TO BE A LIGHT AT THAT CORNER TO ME AND LAMAR OR FURTHER DOWN THERE, THERE IS ACTUALLY A STOPLIGHT THERE NOW.

I THINK IT WAS INSTALLED WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR SO.

IT'S, IT'S RELATIVELY NEW.

WELL THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

SO I REMEMBER IT, I REMEMBER THE PRESENTATION IN, IN 2019, AND I REMEMBER CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION AMONG THE BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF PRESENTATION HAD TO DO WITH, UH, GARAGE PARKING.

SO I, I AM GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE GOING UNDERGROUND.

UH IT'S TOO, TOO BAD THAT, UH, OAK NUMBER ARISTOTLE IS NOT HERE TO HEAR THIS, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE REAL CONCERNS THAT MY, AS I RECALL, SO I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF BOARD MEMBER LUCA THERE.

I LIKED THE STAFF OPTION AND I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S, UH, RIGHT.

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WE'LL PULL A FULL AREA.

SO I HAVE NO, I MEAN, I WILL ASK THE QUESTIONS I'M LIKE I WAS ASKED ABOUT, ABOUT ACCESS, UH, AND THE ROAD GUY.

UH, BOARD MEMBER, UH, MASON MURPHY.

I LOVE THE PLAN.

I THOUGHT I LIKED THE WAY IT'S LAID OUT.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING ON THE LADY BIRD LAKE IN THAT DISASTER? AND DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A TWO STORY BUILDING IN GENERAL.

UM, WE MIGHT INCREASE THE HEIGHT A LITTLE BIT AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SAY ON AVERAGE 35 FEET, MAYBE, MAYBE 40 FEET, UH, THE THEATER'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A HEAT BYLAW LIKE THAT DOES.

UM, BUT THE GALLERY, THE GALLERY MIGHT BE A LITTLE TALLER SO THAT IT PEAKS ABOVE THE TREES JUST A LITTLE BIT.

AND THE IDEA BEHIND THAT IS THE, AGAIN, JUST BE A BEACON, AN ICON IN THE CITY.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT FROM NORTH OF THE RIVER, JUST A LITTLE BIT, JUST TO HINT, TO KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, REALIZE THERE'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT AT THE DOOR.

IT IS OVER THERE.

SO, UM, MOST OF THE BUILDING, I SAY, YOU KNOW, 35, 40 FEET IS PROBABLY THE MAX TWO STORIES, AND THAT WASN'T GOING TO TELL YOU THAT STILL THINK ONE PIECE.

UH, REMEMBERED, UH, TAYLOR, HI, THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

UM, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ALL PUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK AND ALL OF THIS, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I GUESS W WHAT I, WHAT I'M MISSING IS, IS THERE A SIGNIFICANT COST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS? MAYBE, MAYBE YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, AND I JUST MISSED THAT, BUT CAN YOU TELL ME IF THERE IS, AND IF SO, UM, WHAT, HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE IN PRICE? YEAH, GOOD QUESTION.

AND IN TERMS OF THE DOHERTY ARTS CENTER, LIKE JONATHAN SAID, WE'RE SHOWING THE SAME PROGRAM ELEMENTS FOR THAT FACILITY AND ALL, ALL FOUR OF THE SCHEMES.

SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT APPLES TO APPLES AS IT RELATES TO THE ACTUAL DECK.

WHEN WE GET TO THE UNDERGROUND PARKING SOLUTION, THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME DIFFERENCES IN COSTS.

AND THEN ALSO THE ISSUES WITH THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL, WHICH ARE NOT FUNDED, UM, TO EITHER RECONSTRUCT OR RELOCATE THE PART MAIN OFFICE IS A SIGNIFICANT COST TO THE PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE DEPENDING ON COUNCIL TO IDENTIFY ANOTHER SOURCE FOR.

UM, I DO THINK JUST FROM AN OVERALL COST STANDPOINT, THE GARAGE ON ONE V IS A MORE AFFORDABLE CONSTRUCTION THAN THE ONE THAT'S SHOWN IN ONE A, BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO GET A MORE EFFICIENT FOREPLAY.

UM, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THIS AT A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL NOW.

AND JONATHAN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I'M LEAVING OUT THAT YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN WITH, FEEL FREE TO, BUT, UM, UH, THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME EFFICIENCIES TO THE GARAGE IN ONE B RELATIVE TO ONE.

I THINK HE GOT IT.

I MEAN, IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, A 5% DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE OR THE OTHER, UH, FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

UM, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE EFFECTIVELY THE SAME, AND WE DID THAT INTENTIONALLY TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE DESIGN THAT WENT DOWN.

AND WHAT MEMBER OF FAUST, THIS IS IN YOUR DISTRICT.

UH, A TALL BUILDING RIGHT THERE WOULD SORT OF LOOM OVER THE TRAIL.

UM, I GUESS I HAVE, UH, UH, A DIFFERENT IMPRESSION THAN THE BOARD MEMBERS WE'VE HEARD SO FAR.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT UP, UM, BUT THE PRESENTATION BACK UP SO THAT WE CAN SEE MAYBE THE SLIDE WITH THE FOUR DIFFERENT OPTIONS? UM, SO, I MEAN, I'LL JUST SAY MY, MY INITIAL, I HAVE SEVERAL CONCERNS WITH OPTION ONE B UM, THE MAIN ONE IS REALLY HAVING THE BUILDINGS SO CLOSE TO THE TRAIL, ESPECIALLY, I MEAN, IF IT'S AT, YOU SAID 35 TO 40 FOOT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT STRETCH OF TRAIL, IF I'M THINKING ABOUT THE RIGHT PLACE, IT'S LOWER, UM, AND YOU KIND OF LOOK UP, THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, WOODY BANK, AND THEN YOU LOOK UP TOWARDS, UM, AND I, I JUST FEEL THAT HAVING,

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AND I'M, I'M CURIOUS BECAUSE YOU GUYS KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT THIS WILL CONNECT, YOU KNOW, GIVE AN ATTACHMENT TO THE TRAIL FROM THE ART CENTER.

AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A, A VERY, UM, THIS IS A BOX ON PAPER, SO I DON'T, I KNOW THAT THERE'S WAYS YOU CONNECT BUILDINGS TO THE OUTDOORS, BUT I GET THE OPPOSITE IMPRESSION, FRANKLY, THAT THIS IS GOING TO, WHEN YOU'RE ON THE TRAIL, MAKE IT FEEL LIKE, OH, THOSE ARE SOME BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOME SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A PART OF THIS TRAIL.

LIKE, DON'T GO UP THERE.

DON'T, DON'T GET INTO THAT.

I'M FRANKLY SURPRISED THAT WE CAN EVEN BUILD THAT HIGH, THIS CLOSE TO THE LAKE.

I DON'T KNOW THE BUILDING STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, IN THE, THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY ORDINANCES.

BUT, UM, I JUST, I JUST FEEL THAT FROM, UH, FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A TRAIL USER TO HAVE REALLY TALL BUILDINGS OVERHEAD, RIGHT THERE IS NOT THAT, UM, SLEEPING OF AN ENVIRONMENT.

I ALSO JUST GENERALLY, I THINK WOULD PREFER THE OPTIONS THAT KEEP ALL OF THE BUILDINGS CLOSER TOGETHER AND MAINTAIN MORE JUST IN PARKLAND.

UM, THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR A VARIETY OF USES.

I SORT OF FEEL LIKE MOVING THE BUILDINGS TO THE WEST, LIKE IN OPTION ONE B KIND OF CLAIMS ALL OF THIS PARKLAND FOR THE ARTS CENTER.

AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHICH I'M, I'M HAPPY TO.

I LOVE THE COMBINATION OF THE PARKS AND THE ARTS.

THAT'S WHAT I LIKED ABOUT THE OLD LOCATION.

I ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THINK THERE'S SOME REALLY WONDERFUL, UM, MANY WONDERFUL EXAMPLES AND OUR, OUR ZILKER PARK AND BARTON SPRINGS AND ALL OF THIS AREA HAS SUCH A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR ARTISTS COMMUNITY.

SO I LOVE THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO, I'M, I'M WORRIED ABOUT CREATING A FACILITY THAT FEELS LIKE NOBODY ELSE CAN GO THERE AND USE THAT PART OF THE PARK, UNLESS YOU'RE, UM, DOING SOMETHING WITH THE ARTS CENTER AND, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH HOW YOU CAN SEE LIKE WHERE THE PINK CIRCLE DRIVE IS.

AND IT JUST, TO ME SORT OF TAKES MORE SPACE OUT OF JUST GREEN OPEN LAND, YOU KNOW, WHICH WE WOULD BE CREATING WITH SOME OF THE OPTIONS, LIKE ONE A, UM, BACK, KEEP IT TIGHTER TOGETHER.

UM, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT THE UNDER OPTION ONE B LIKE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE WITH A GREEN ROOF, I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE TO, UM, A PERSON ON THE GROUND.

I MEAN, IS, AM I GOING TO KNOW IT'S THERE? IS IT A FIELD THAT I CAN RUN AND PLAY ON? OR IS IT SORT OF SOMEHOW SEPARATED? CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT THE INTERFACES? SURE.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH DISCOVERY GREEN IN HOUSTON.

UM, BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S IMMEDIATELY NORTH.

I THINK THAT THE GIANT CONVENTION CENTER IN HOUSTON, UM, IT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF, YEAH, IN THAT CASE, IT'S A GIANT OPEN PUBLIC SPACE THAT'S ON TOP OF THE GARAGE.

AND SO, UM, OTHER THAN THE ACCESS POINTS TO IT, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A GARAGE.

IT JUST FEELS LIKE A FIELD THAT'S OVER TOP OF IT.

AND SO I THINK, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

WE DO WANT VERY MUCH TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THESE SPACES CONNECT TO EACH OTHER AND, AND WELCOME IN AS MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE TRAIL USERS OR FOLKS FROM FARTHER AWAY, UM, WHETHER DOWNTOWN OR EVEN, UH, AS FAR AWAY AS THEY MIGHT WANT TO COME, UH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE SPACES ARE LINKING TOGETHER AND, AND PROVIDING A QUALITY OF EXPERIENCE AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF EXPERIENCE THROUGH THE DIFFERENT SPACES, BUT ALSO, UM, JUST THAT EVERYONE FEELS WELCOMED.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT W WILL, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING FOR US TO STRIVE FOR.

ENGAGING IN A PROGRAM AT THE ART CENTER OR EXAC, OR GOING TO THE PARKS OFFICE, THIS BECOMES AN AREA THAT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I, I STARTED OUT SAYING, I MEAN, YOU'VE CLEARLY DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS AND I DON'T IN MY COMMENTS, THEY DON'T INTEND TO SAY THAT YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO CONNECT.

YOU'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, SPLIT UP THE PARKS AT ALL.

I THINK THAT WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, IT JUST, TO ME, THE SENSE I HAVE IS THERE'S MORE BUILDINGS AND THERE'S, THEY'RE SPREAD OUT.

AND IT BECOMES THIS AREA THAT IF I'M NOT A PERSON THAT IS SPECIFICALLY

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AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS MUCH LIKE A, A PART, NO, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S CURRENTLY THE BALL, THE BALL FIELDS THERE, SO IT'S NOT EXACTLY OPEN ACCESSIBLE, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PREFERENCE IS.

JUST DEFINITELY THE ONES LIKE ONE A WHERE IT KEEPS THE BUILDINGS KIND OF TUCKED UP TOGETHER.

UM, I THINK WHAT'S REALLY HARD ABOUT, UM, THE CHOICES WE'VE BEEN GIVEN AND IT'S, AND I KNOW THIS IS, WAS THE COUNCIL DIRECTION IS, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THESE ARE ALL TIED UP WITH WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT OFFICES.

BECAUSE TO ME, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT GO INTO WHERE THOSE OFFICES SHOULD BE LOCATED AND WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN WITH THIS HISTORIC BUILDING THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT.

AND THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S WRAPPED UP IN HOW THE ARTS CENTER IS GOING TO BE DESIGNED IS A LITTLE, A LITTLE CONFUSING.

CAUSE AS FAR AS WHAT HA WHERE'S THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT OFFICE WILL, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WHERE DOES EVERYBODY WORK? WHERE ARE THEY COMING FROM? WHERE ARE THEY GOING? WHAT'S WHAT OTHER OPTIONS DOES THE CITY HAVE? AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT HOW YOU ALL FRAMED IT, THAT'S OUR COUNCIL DID, BUT THAT, PART'S HARD FOR ME TO GET MY HEAD AROUND TO BE DECIDING, UM, WRAPPED UP IN THIS.

SO, UM, YEAH, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ANY OTHER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

I MEAN, I GUESS YOU DID MENTION THAT THE GARAGE, THE UNDERGROUND GARAGE IS MORE AFFORDABLE, BUT I JUST AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH BUILDINGS THAT CLOSE TO THE TRAIL.

UM, I DO HEAR, OR, YOU KNOW, FROM MY, A LOT OF PEOPLE I COMMUNICATE WITH IN DISTRICT FIVE FREQUENTLY, I HEAR CONCERNS ABOUT ENCROACHMENT ON THE PARKS AND THE TRAIL FROM BUILDINGS, EVEN, YOU KNOW, UM, JUST LIKING THAT, UM, AS NATURAL AS WE CAN KEEP IT RIGHT THERE, ALONG THE SHORELINE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT REASON, I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT ONE BEAT, BUT, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOUR THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION.

UM, SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

ONE WAS, I KNOW WHEN WE ORIGINALLY, WHEN YOU CAME TO US BEFORE THAT ONE OF THE, UM, THE BIG CONCERNS THAT WE HAD, AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY STILL THERE IS THE TRAFFIC SITUATION, ESPECIALLY ON TO ME, TO ME, AS YOU KNOW, IS NOT A MAJOR ARTERY.

IT'S JUST A LITTLE ROAD AND WHERE THE YARD CENTER IS NOT SOMEPLACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE REALLY GOING TO BE WINDING THEIR BIKES OR RIDING THE BUS, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF KIDS GO INTO CLASSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE DROPPED OFF, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.

IT'S ALREADY, WHEN AUSTIN GOES BACK TO HIS NORMAL FUN SELF IS TO ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A BIG METH THAT'S TO TRAFFIC.

IS THERE, I MEAN, YOU HAVE THE TWO ENTRANCES.

YOU SAY YOU HAVE ONE ON TWO ME AND ONE ON RIVERS FOR THIS GARAGE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND WE'LL GO AHEAD.

NO, AND I MEAN, ARE THERE ANY EFFORTS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG PROBLEM.

IT, IT'S CERTAINLY A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE AND WE'VE LOOKED AT IT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT, UM, ON OUR TEAM.

WELL, I GUESS I DID MENTION A PREVIOUSLY, BUT WE HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND, AND ANOTHER CONSULTANT WORKING ON, UM, TRAFFIC DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAXIMIZING THE OPPORTUNITIES TO INVITE ALTERNATIVE MODES OF TRANSIT TO THIS SITE.

AND IN SOME WAYS THAT WILL INFLUENCE THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING.

BUT I THINK THE MORE WAYS THAT INFLUENCES THE SITE DESIGN BY, UM, ENSURING THAT PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE ACCESS IS, IS, YOU KNOW, FEATURING STRONGLY IN THE WAY THAT THE BUILDING IS ORIENTED TO ON THE ACCESS POINTS.

SO, BUT THERE'S NOT REALLY THAT MUCH.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO TO REALLY MITIGATE THE SITUATION.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE JUST, OKAY.

YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A MEANS OF, UM, VEHICLES TO, TO ARRIVE WITH SOME DEGREE OF EASE AND QUEUE AND PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN AND, AND, AND DRIVE OUT.

FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THERE ARE YOUTH PROGRAMS HERE THAT, UM, REQUIRE THAT PARENTS DROP OFF THEIR CHILDREN AND PICK THEM UP AGAIN.

BUT THAT IS ONE ASPECT OF OPTION.

ONE B THAT JUST FROM A VERY STANDPOINT, THE STAFF REALLY APPRECIATED, UM, THAT,

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SO, UM, IN SOME WAYS THAT'S A STRONG POINT OF OPTION, ONE B THAT IT PROVIDES THAT FUNCTIONAL ACCESS TO THE BUILDING, UM, MORE DIRECTLY THAN SOME OF THE OTHER SCHEMES DO, WHICH IS, UM, TIGHTER IN A MORE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

I MEAN THIS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS THAT COME BEFORE AS WITH, UM, AND THIS ONE TO ME IS JUST, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S JUST SO MANY PIECES OF THIS AND I, AND I AM SO NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS AND YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

I KNOW YOU'VE PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS, BUT IT'S, IT'S HARD TO FEEL COMFORTABLE JUST SAYING, OKAY, I KNOW ENOUGH TO SAY YES, I AGREE.

ONE B IS DEFINITELY THE BEST OPTION BECAUSE, BUT, SO I DON'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE I'M JUST RUBBER STAMPING.

SO I'M STILL JUST, I'M NOT JUST A HUNDRED PERCENT LIKE, YES, I WANT TO JUST ADVOCATE FOR THIS OR NOT.

I'M, I'M NOT QUITE QUITE THERE YET.

I'M JUST NOT SURE ABOUT IT.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WE'VE PRESENTED TO DESIGN COMMISSION LAST NIGHT AND THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE MORE WE'RE ABLE TO SHOW, THE MORE INTERESTS AND QUESTIONS COME UP ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. AND SO I RECOGNIZE, I MENTIONED ALSO IF THE BOARD DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOR ONE SCHEME, ONE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD LAST NIGHT WAS, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING ASPECTS OF THESE OPTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, NEED TO BE PURSUED FURTHER IN THE DESIGN PHASE, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY THE POINT IN THE PROJECT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE STILL OPEN RIGHT NOW.

WELL, I MEAN, I, UM, I KNOW THAT THE OTHER PIECE OF ALL THIS IS THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE, UH, ONE OF THE REALLY AUSTIN'S PRIME, YOU KNOW, JULES.

I MEAN, IT'S REALLY ONE OF OUR MOST VALUABLE PARTS OF OUR PARK.

UM, YOU KNOW, A PARK AMENITIES ARE PARK DEPARTMENT AND OF COURSE THE, OR THE ARTS CENTER AND, AND WE, AND WE DON'T CARE A LOT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT IT TO BE DONE WELL, AND THESE, I KNOW YOU GUYS PUT A LOT OF EFFORT IN, AND I UNDERSTAND BOARD MEMBER FAUST HAS CONCERNS.

I SAID, I'M NOT, I'M JUST NOT SURE WHETHER THIS IS THE VERY, UM, BEST OPTION WE CAN DO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT CAN BE DONE TO IMPROVE SO WE CAN RELY ON YOUTUBE.

UM, AND Y'ALL HAVE DONE OBVIOUSLY A FABULOUS JOB.

I'M JUST UNDERLINE THIS ONE.

I'M NOT QUITE THERE YET.

BOARD MEMBER, UM, COTTON SEIBOLD DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE YET THAT WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED, I, THIS WAS PRESENTED THE MONTH BEFORE I STARTED ON THE BOARD.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHY IT'S MOVING FROM THE ORIGINAL LOCATION IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THERE ARE A FEW REASONS.

THE MAIN IS THAT THE EXISTING LOCATION IS WITHIN THE 25 YEAR FLOOD PLAIN.

SO THAT REALLY WOULD PROHIBIT ANY SUBSTANTIAL RENOVATION OF THE FACILITY IN ANY REDEVELOPMENT IN THAT LOCATION.

UM, BUT, BUT THAT'S JUST THE MOST SIGNIFICANT OF THE CHALLENGES THAT'S ALSO BUILT ON TOP CORNER LANDFILL, UM, WHICH WOULD HAVE COST SIGNIFICANT DOLLARS TO REMEDIATE THAT SITE AND STUFF.

AND THEN, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, AGAIN, SOME IT WASN'T YOU, THE OTHER, I THINK IT WAS KEVIN MR. JOHNSON THAT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT WHERE IT WAS GOING TO GO AND THE PLACE WHERE SCHLOTZKY'S USED TO BE.

LET'S LET'S, LET'S TRY THAT.

IT'S AN OFFICE BUILDING THAT WAS JUST APPROVED.

UM, THEY THOUGHT OF THEIR ANTS AS A, AS A PILOT OF PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT SHOULD BE A SEVEN STORY OFFICE BUILDING IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.

THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHEN THE COUNCIL 74.

IT WASN'T A UNANIMOUS VOTE.

OH, CHAIR, CHAIR.

UM, THIS IS, THIS, WON'T BE ONE OF THE LOWER BUILDINGS ALONG THE LAKEFRONT.

UM, I LIKE, UH, CAN YOU, UM, UH, CAN YOU PUT KEVIN, CAN YOU PUT THE, UH, THE SITE AND AGAIN, UM, ONE WHERE YOU SHOW ANY BIRD LAKE, BECAUSE I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT WE NEED TO THAT'D BE GOOD.

ONE SLIDE BACK ONE, ONE MORE.

THIS ONE IS GOOD TOO, I GUESS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK YOU SAID, I THINK WE NEED TO REALIZE IS THAT THE SOUTH WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT WILL BE, UH, VERY CLOSE BY AND WILL FLU OH, EXTREMELY COLD.

SO WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT A 45 FOOT BUILDING.

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UM, IF, IF YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE BOTTOM PICTURE ON THE LEFT, UM, YOU CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE SCALE WOULD BE.

AND THE, THE GRAY BUILDING THAT YOU'RE SITTING ON THE CORNER OF THAT IMAGE REPRESENTS THAT SEVEN STORY OFFICE COMPLEX HERE, JUST TALKING ABOUT, SO THAT MIGHT HELP GIVE A SENSE OF SCALE, BUT ISN'T THIS PROBABLY LOOKING AT AUSTIN TOO RIGHT NOW? WELL, THE OPTION WITH THE BUILDINGS NEXT TO THE TRAIL.

REALITY THAT WE PROBABLY, CAN'T NOT, NOT AT THE BUILDING.

BUT WHAT MY POINT WAS, LET'S GO BACK ONE MORE SLIDE.

SO THE ONE, NO, MAYBE ANOTHER ONE.

IT WAS THE ONE WHERE YOU COULD KIND OF SEE BOTH SHORTS.

UH, YEAH, THIS ONE'S KIND OF GOOD TOO, BUT A LITTLE FURTHER BACK, BECAUSE I THINK, UM, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT WE'VE FOUGHT, UM, SOUTH LAMAR ON THE, UH, UM, ON THE EAST OF THE SITE AND THEN MAJOR ROADWAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IS CONGRESS AND, AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE THAT SOUTH WATERFRONT EAST.

SO IF ANYTHING, THE HEIGHT WILL BE GOING FROM THE SOUTH WATERFRONT DOWN TOWARD, UH, THE SITE.

SO IN TERMS OF, UM, THE HYPE OF THE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AS MUCH OF A CONCERN.

I THINK TRAFFIC ISSUES MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE RELEVANT.

UM, NOW I ALSO LIKED THE FACT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING UNDERGROUND PARKING BECAUSE LIKE, UH, WELL, REMEMBER MORGAN SAID, UM, JUST PARKING VEHICLES IS A BIG DISTRACTION TO THE STATICS OF THE SITE AND, AND JUST HAVING ANOTHER BUILDING, JUST TO ACCOMMODATE VEHICLES, IT WAS WORRISOME.

UM, BUT IF THE TRANSPORTATION, SINCE THIS PATIENT CORRIDOR, I THINK THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES WILL BE RESOLVED BY, BY, UM, THOSE PROJECTS.

HEY, I GUESS, I MEAN, I GUESS ONE QUESTION I HAVE, I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I'M SORRY.

THIS IS A BOARD MEMBER CALLS WITH THE VARIOUS OPTIONS.

WHY CAN'T THERE BE UNDERGROUND PARKING WITH THE BUILDINGS UP CLOSER TO THAT? LIKE WHERE THAT'S IS CURRENTLY IS IN ONE BEAT, THE BUILDINGS COULD BE OVER THAT.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS LOOKED AT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF THE SLIDE PRESENTATION, MAYBE SLIDES NUMBER? I THINK IT'S, LIKE LIZ SAID, THERE'S SO MANY BECAUSE IT'S KNOWN, IT'S PROBABLY TO REMEMBER WHAT THE, THE MAIN POINTS ON ARE ON EACH ONE.

SO LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, ELECTION ONE, A WHY COULDN'T THE GARAGE BE UNDER THOSE BUILDINGS WHERE IT WOULD BE AN UNDERGROUND GARAGE IN ONE WEEK? AM I NOT SPEAK TO THAT? THIS IS JONATHAN AGAIN.

UM, SO IT'S REALLY TIGHT TO GET THE CIRCULATE PATTERNS THAT WE NEED, UM, FOR THE DROP-OFF AND THE ACCESS TO THE TRIAGE, UH, AND THE THEATER LOADING TO HAPPEN IN OPTION ONE.

SO WE'VE KIND OF GOT THESE THREE COMPONENTS AND WE REALLY ONLY CAN GET TWO OF THEM TO WORK TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE NICE THING ABOUT OPTION ONE IS THEY GET, UH, IN TERMS OF, FROM PARKING STANDPOINT, IT'S IN FACT THAT'S ENTIRELY OFF OF RIVERSIDE.

UH, THE UNFORTUNATE THING IS, UH, DOES THE DROP-OFF SCHOOL PICKUP, UH, IS ENTIRELY ALL THE, TO ME.

AND SO THOSE TWO THINGS ARE SPLIT.

UH, SAME THING.

IF YOU WERE AN ARTIST, IF YOU WERE TRYING TO DROP OFF SOMETHING, UH, IN THE LOADING AREA, THEN YOU'D HAVE TO KIND OF CIRCLE YOUR WAY BACK OUT TO GET TO THE PARKING THAT'S UNDER THE, IF YOU GET OUT HARD SPOTS TOO, WITH THE PARKING OVER THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF ZACK GOT CURRENTLY BOUNDARY AND SO WE'D HAVE TO REALLY PLAY AT NIGHT TO, UH, CONVINCE THEM TO GET RID OF THEIR PARKING LOT, UM, FOR A LONG TIME WHILE WE BUILT THE GARAGE THERE.

SO IT'S REALLY, IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUST HOW WE CAN GET ALL THOSE THINGS THAT COME TOGETHER IN ONE SPOT.

BUT THE

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GO BACK TO THE SLIDE.

WHY YOU COULD HAVE THE REASONS WHY YOU PICKED OPTION ONE B.

WHERE, WHERE, UM, WHERE ARE WE WITH? OKAY.

AND THEN YOU PROUD, THIS IS ALREADY, ALSO, THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THE SLIDE, BUT I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

SO IS WHERE ARE WE WITH THIS PROCESS? ARE YOU NOW AT A POINT WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO TO COUNCIL WITH WHATEVER OPTION THAT YOU CHOOSE AND THAT YOU'RE WAITING TO GET SOME MARKS FOR THIS, FOR THE TIMELINE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE TIMELINE, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS PREEMPT THE SAID, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.

WE INTEND TO BE BACK AT COUNCIL IN LATE MARCH OR EARLY, AND THEY WANTED TO GIVE APPROVAL BEFORE WE MOVED FULLY INTO ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.

CAN I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, DAWN CHERRY? WELL, I WAS WONDERING, YOU MENTIONED A DISCUSSION WITH THE DESIGN COMMISSION.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN, UM, WHAT UNFAIR BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS ARE LOOKING AT THIS AND WHETHER AND WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN? SURE.

AND WE ACTUALLY HAD PLANNED TO START LAST WEEK, BUT UNFORTUNATELY TALK ABOUT IT AS SEVEN WHERE WE'RE POSTPONED.

AND SO WE'RE BACK TO THE, WE'RE POSTING OUR SCHEDULE BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT THAT WE PLAN TO PRESENT TO DESIGN COMMISSION, PLANNING, COMMISSION, URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, THE ARTS COMMISSION, UM, PARKS COURT, AND JONATHAN HAVE, YOU CAN KICK ME OUT CAUSE I'M ON THE FIVE HERE AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND HISTORIC LANDMARKS PERMISSION.

CORRECT.

AND DOWNTOWN COMMISSION AS WELL.

AND IS THIS, AND YOU'VE BEEN TO DESIGN AND PARKS SO FAR? CORRECT.

WELL, REMEMBER MORGAN DID GO AHEAD.

I THINK YOU'RE MUTED.

YOU'RE MUTED BOARD MEMBER MORGAN.

WELL, OKAY.

IT'S REALLY A SITE PLAN, RIGHT? IT'S A, IT'S A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN.

SO YOU HAVEN'T REALLY, YOU IT'S CONCEPTUALIZED AND YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE OTHER CONDITIONS BEFORE YOU GET TO THE FINALS.

SO IT GIVES YOU A DIRECTION TO GO FORWARD.

TO SEE WHAT THE, WHAT EACH OF THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WERE MENTIONED, WHAT THEIR VOTE WAS, OR IF THEY DECIDED NOT TO TAKE A VOTE AND GAVE US THEM DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S RIGHT.

CORRECT.

AND AS PART OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN PROCESS, WE WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THE CITY'S ENTIRE PERMITTING PROCESS THAT REVIEWS FROM A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STANDARDS FROM ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA, MANUAL STANDPOINT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE END UP MOVING FORWARD WITH WITH EACH SUBJECT TO THAT PROCESS.

UM, SO, SO THIS IS REALLY TRYING TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP TO GET MORE FULLY INTO THAT ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.

THE REASON I DO THAT IS THAT WHEN, WHEN YOU CAME BEFORE IN 19, ALL YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THEN WAS JUST HOW THIS LAND COULD BE USED OR MOVING DOCK FROM WHERE IT IS NOW TO BUTLER'S YOURS.

THE NEXT STEP IS BACK TO THE SPECIAL STINT.

I'M JUST LIKE PLAYING.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE JOURNEY THAT YOU FEEL IS STILL AT THE EARLY STAGES.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND IF I COULD ADD TO THIS QUESTION, THIS IS KIMBERLY MCNEALY.

WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, TO THIS CITY COUNCIL, WE WILL PUT IN THE BACKUP INFORMATION, THE DIFFERENT FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

SO THEY'LL BE ABLE

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AND SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT WHILE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IDEAL TO BE ABLE TO COME TO THIS BOARD, UH, WITH ALL OF THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE OF THE STORM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT, WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT, UM, IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION.

AND OUR, OUR, OUR COUNCIL PREPARATION REQUIRES US TO DO THINGS A LITTLE BIT FARTHER IN ADVANCE SO THAT WE CAN GET ALL THE INFORMATION, UM, ON THE, ON THE RCA.

SO THE REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION.

SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT DECIDED TODAY, ALONG WITH EVERY OTHER SINGLE BOARD THAT WE'D GO TO, THAT INFORMATION WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION.

SO THOSE BE WHAT EACH BOARD SAYS.

AND I WISHED IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD TO GO A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER.

CAUSE IT WOULD BE NICE FOR US TO KNOW WHAT THE INPUT WAS FROM SOME OF THE OTHERS.

SORRY ABOUT THAT, GUYS.

YOU KNOW, THAT EACH OF THOSE BOARDS WILL ASK US WITH LIKE THE DIFFERENT SPORTS SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S A CIRCLE.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

NO, AND I, YOU KNOW, I GUESS FOR ME FOR THIS ONE, I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT IT IS AND WE POLLUTED THE BEST SOLUTION POSSIBLE AND YOU GUYS HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME REALLY STUDYING IT AND TRYING TO, TO NAVIGATE IT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING THE BEST YOU CAN.

IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A LOT OF, UM, INFORMATION TO DIGEST.

AND SO I'M JUST THINKING, BUT ANYWAYS, BUT WE NEED TO, TO MOVE FORWARD.

ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAS A MOTION? WELL, BOARD MEMBER, MASON, MURPHY.

I THINK SHE HAD A QUESTION.

I HAVE ONE MORE THING.

UM, THE BOARDS AND CONNECTIONS ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT WE SAID.

I DO WANT TO, UM, INDICATE, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE PROTECT THAT BUILDING THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THAT BUILDING AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR.

AND I ALSO NOTE ONE D IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE IMPACT TO THE HERITAGE TREES OR HAS VERY MINIMAL, UM, ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES ROAD DIET IS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR PEDESTRIANS.

SO IF THAT'S A JUSTIFICATION AS WELL, I THINK THAT'S REALLY GOOD.

THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE PROMINENT.

UM, I JUST SORT OF, IN SOME WAYS, ENVISIONING A MORE MEANDERING SCALE GOING THROUGH SUNSET THAT ONE, HOW THEY HAVE THAT REALLY TIGHT LITTLE S TURN A LITTLE BIT.

AND I, IT'S VERY GREAT IN HOUSTON AND IT'S A WONDERFUL FEED, GIANT OPEN FIELDS.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT WAS PREFERABLE OR ONE B ALSO WAS THE SEPARATION OF ZACK.

AND, UM, THEY ALREADY, I THINK THEY'RE BOTH REALLY UNIQUE AND, UM, THEY MIGHT, THERE MIGHT BE SOME MORE, UM, ARGUING IF THEIR NEXT WEEK BETTER COVER SPACE AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN SEEING BUILDINGS, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THAT SPOT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE LAKE.

MOST OF THE TIME, I'M NOT LOOKING UP IN A BANK.

AND SO YES, THERE WILL BE SOME BUILDINGS THERE AND THERE WILL BE ALL THE WAY ALONG OUR TRAIL, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT WHOLE GIANT GREEN SPACE FOR, TO ME REALLY JUST CHANGES THE WAY IT FEELS FOR PEOPLE ON TO ME THAT ALONE WILL JUST FEEL RAIN AND WELCOMING.

AND THE WHOLE AREA IS SORT OF BE CONSCIOUS GYM FOR THE PARKS AND REC PARK.

SO NO PERFECT SOLUTION.

THERE WERE, UM, DEVELOPING AND GROWING MUCH FASTER THAN, YOU KNOW, MY PERSONAL COMFORT LEVEL ALL OVER THE CITY.

AND TO HAVE TO, I WOULDN'T BE, I CAN SEE WHY Y'ALL PICK PIT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THEN I JUST WANTED THOSE COMMENTS.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

OOPS, GO AHEAD QUICK.

JUST A QUICK THOUGHT.

I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT UM, BOARD MEMBER FOR ELSE IS SAYING, BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE ALL THE BUILDING FOR SOUTH SHORE.

AND I'M JUST SICK ABOUT HOW TALL THIS BUILDINGS LOOK.

AND I WONDER IF MAYBE HAVING A GOAL IS THAT WHOA, LARGELY GLASS THAT FACES THE TRAIL ANY CHANCE DO YOU KNOW? SO THOSE TYPES OF QUESTIONS.

THIS WAS THINKING MAYBE IF THAT, IF THAT FLOWS FROM THE INSIDE AND FROM THE OUTSIDE, IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE LOOKING UP FROM THE TRAIL AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, AN INDUSTRIAL SPACE WOULD BE MORE LIKE PAYING ARTISTS TO SPACE.

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AND THEN MAYBE IF WE HAD MORE OF A GLASS, YOU KNOW, TWO WAY LOOK THERE, THAT WOULD BE MORE OPEN AND MORE PARK-LIKE ON THAT SIDE TOO.

BUT I, I DO, I THINK LISTENING TO ALL YOUR POINTS, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF BUILDING B AS THE BEST OPTION.

AND I THINK THAT HAVING THAT, UM, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT HAVING THE GREEN SPACE ON THE TOONY SIDE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT HAS BECOME WITH ALL THIS CONTENT IT'S BECOME INCORRECTLY, UM, A TIGHT TYPE THAT THERE'S NO PLACE THERE.

SO IN THERE.

SO THANK YOU FROM YOU GUYS.

WELL, I HAVE TO SAY, I REMEMBER, UM, MASON, MURPHY'S SIGNIFICANCE, YOU MENTIONED THE HERITAGE TREES THAT I'D BE LIKE, OH, SO, BUT I, AND I DO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, BUT I ALSO DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN, BECAUSE I MAY NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH WHATEVER HAPPENS.

I THINK THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST NOT THRILLED ABOUT THESE CHANGES, UM, GIVEN THAT WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE.

IT IS WHAT IT IS.

SO I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UM, BE IT I'LL SUPPORT IT, BUT NOT LIKE YAY, BUT I WILL SUPPORT IT.

GO AHEAD.

I MOVE TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY POOL, OTHER PREFERRED DESIGNS, CULINARY OPEN THE DOUGHERTY ARTS CENTER REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

DO YOU WANT TO MENTION THE ONE B THAT IS THE PREFERRED IS LAMPS SCENARIO, WHICH IS ONE BIG.

DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A SECOND SHORT PART WITH THAT? IS THAT IS THEIR PREFERRED DESIGN SCENARIO.

NOW I HAVE A HUNCH.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THIS AGAIN, GO BACK TO ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.

THIS GUY JUST ON ENDED.

JUST REMEMBER WHERE WE'VE BEEN ON THE JOURNEY.

ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED THIS IS SARAH BELL STOVE, OPPOSED.

I JUST, I CAN'T AGREE TO THE BUILDINGS BEING SO CLOSE TO THE TRAIL AND CERTAINLY DON'T IMPACT ANY HERITAGE STREETS.

AND I WOULD, UM, I GUESS I'LL SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT MAYBE IF THERE'S AN OPTION WHERE THE, THE BUILDINGS AREN'T SO CLOSE TO THE TRAIL AND WE ALSO DON'T IMPACT HERITAGE.

AND I THINK ALSO, UM, I REMEMBER FOSTER ALSO IS STILL, IS NOT, THIS IS NOT A SENTENCE TO, AND THERE'S STILL SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME CHANGES.

SO, SO, AND, AND SO I AGREE ENCOURAGING CHANGE WOULD BE A GOOD THING.

THANK YOU GUYS.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANKS FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS.

IT'S CERTAINLY VOTED AGAINST, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED HERE.

OH, IT PASSED.

WE ONLY HAD ONE OPPOSITE ONE PERSON TO POST.

I WANTED MY TWO WEEK.

WE'D HELP SANDY WITH A MOOSE.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

APPRECIATE THE TIME AND DISCUSSION.

YEAH, THANK OH, OKAY.

YUP.

RALUCA YOU'RE ON THAT SOUTH SHORE ADVISORY.

AREN'T YOU ON THAT? AT SOME POINT, WE PROBABLY NEED SOME KIND OF UPDATE ON ALL THAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT, BECAUSE I MEAN, WHEN THAT ALL STARTED, IT BECAME VERY OBVIOUS TO THEM EASILY GOING TO BE A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE SOUTH SHORE.

AND, UM, I'M SURE THAT THE PROJECT TEAM CAN COME IN, MAKE A PRESENTATION.

WELL, I DON'T WANT TO, I WAS BOARD MEMBER, COTTON SWAPPABLE, AGAIN, EVEN MORE DEPRESSED BY IT THEN.

ITEM IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING BARTON CREEK GREENBELT RESERVATION, PILOT PROGRAM RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE RODS.

FOR YOU.

IF I CRY, CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE GONE SO WE CAN GET OUTTA HERE.

SO DISCUSSION, THE NEXT

[B.4. Discussion and possible action regarding Barton Creek Greenbelt reservation pilot program recommendations. (PARD Long Range Plan Strategies – Operational Efficiency, Urban Public Spaces, Park Access for All; SD23 Outcomes – Health & Environment) Presenter: Amanda Ross, Natural Resources Division Manager, Parks and Recreation Department 5. Discussion of partnership pathways as it relates to Resolution No. 20200312-041. (PARD Long Range Plan Strategies –Operational Efficiency; SD23 Outcomes – Health & Environment, Culture & Lifelong Learning) Presenter: Kimberly McNeeley, Director, Parks and Recreation Department 6. Discussion regarding transition of the Alternative Funding Working Group activities to the Finance Committee. Presenter: Nina Rinaldi, Board Member]

DO WE, SO BY MEMBERS WHILE AMANDA COMES OVER FROM BEING

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AN ATTENDEE TO BEING A PARTICIPANT OR HOWEVER, THAT WORKS, JUST TO REMIND HER THAT WE PROVIDED WITH, UH, SOME BASIC INFORMATION EARLIER, UM, OR I GUESS AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, WE PROMISED THAT WE WOULD COME BACK WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UM, SO THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, THE RESULTS OF THE PILOT PROGRAM.

AND WHAT'S APPROXIMATELY RATION DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDED AND YOU HAD GIVEN US, UM, SOME FEEDBACK PREVIOUSLY.

AND SO YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THAT INCORPORATED INTO THIS PRESENTATION.

SO THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY OVER.

SHOULD WE GO AHEAD? OKAY.

WE READY? OR SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM? I DON'T THINK THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE ANY LESS COMPLICATED.

EVERYONE IS ON THE SCREEN CHAIR LEWIS, AMANDA AND LUCAS ARE ON AND READY TO GO.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU, AMANDA.

I THINK YOU'RE MUTED.

AH, THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH THAT.

UM, AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND WAIT FOR THE PRESENTATION TO GET UP, UM, AND IT'S THAT'S HAPPENING.

UM, AND HE'S WORKING ON THAT.

UM, JUST TAKE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT BACK AND INTRODUCE MYSELF.

SO I'M AMANDA ROSS, I'M THE DIVISION MANAGER FOR NATURAL RESOURCES.

UM, LUCAS, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING BEFORE I GET STARTED? SO BOARD MEMBERS, I KNOW I MADE IS GOING TO DO A QUICK RECAP, BUT, UH, THINKING BACK TO, TO JULY AND KIND OF BEING IN STAGE FIVE AND COVID IN THE PARKS, UH, EXPERIENCES THAT WE WERE HAVING, UH, ALONG THOSE REVOLVED AROUND FOLKS TRYING TO GET AND SEEK OUT WATER GREENBELT BEING ONE OF THOSE.

SO JUST TO PREFACE OUR PRESENTATION WITH THAT BRIEF REMINDER, THANKS.

THOSE A MURMA IMPACTS? THOSE WERE KIND OF OUR GUIDING QUESTIONS AND WE WENT THROUGH AND STARTED TO COLLECT DATA.

THE LAST TWO YEARS FEELS LIKE SEVERAL.

UM, SO WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE PILOT PROGRAM WAS WE WERE LOOKING AT WHAT EXACTLY WAS IT WITH THE, WHAT IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO TO MANAGE ACCESS SO THAT WE COULD PROVIDE SAFE ACCESS, UM, IN A WAY THAT THERE COULD BE PEOPLE WHO COULD COME TO A GREENBELT AND, UM, SOMEPLACE THAT WAS NORMALLY VERY BUSY, THAT, UM, COULD PROVIDE AN OPEN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO ENJOY IT AND IN A SAFE MANNER DURING COVID, UM, WE HAD COMPLAINTS AS WELL FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND SO THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO KIND OF TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, THE BENEFITS AND COSTS WERE.

UM, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO AGAIN, UM, THINKING BACK ON THIS PROJECT, I PROVIDED AN UPDATE KIND OF MIDWAY THROUGH ON THE PROJECT.

AND SO THIS IS A CONCLUSION OF THAT PROJECT.

WE'VE CONCLUDED.

WE PULLED ALL THE DATA AND WE'LL HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR YOUR REVIEW AND, AND THOUGHTS ON THOSE.

UM, SO CURRENTLY WHAT WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE STARTED THE RESERVATION, UH, PROJECT WAS THAT WE ALWAYS WERE GOING TO MAKE THIS FREE.

THERE WAS NEVER GOING TO BE A CHARGE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, PLACING PARKING MONITORS OF ALL SEVEN ENTRANCES TO THE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT.

SO INDIVIDUALS COULD, UM, HAVE THAT INTERACTION WITH AN INDIVIDUAL THAT COULD BE CHECKED IN AND THERE WOULD BE A SYSTEM IN PLACE FOR THAT.

AND AGAIN, WE WERE ONLY LOOKING TO MANAGE KIND OF THE BUSY TIME SO THAT INDIVIDUALS WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO GO TO THE SPACE AND REALLY BE ABLE TO ENJOY IT WITHOUT A RESERVATION DURING THOSE NON-BUSY TIMES.

AND THEN DURING THOSE BUSY TIMES THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR JUST SPACE MANAGEMENT AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN SOME OF THOSE BUSIER LOCATIONS.

AND SO WE ONLY LOOKED AT FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY WITH A 10:30 AM THROUGH 7:30 PM.

ANYTIME OUTSIDE OF THAT, THERE WAS NO RESERVATION.

THERE WERE NO PARK MONITORS, ANYONE SHOULD GO TO THE GREENBELT.

UM, AND I'LL GO OVER THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH IS THE GUIDING QUESTIONS AS WELL.

SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT WAS CAN, CAN YOU MANAGE ACCESS AND STILL PROVIDE AN ENJOYABLE EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE? UM, AND SO WE HAVE SOME RESULTS ON THAT.

UM, CAN A RESERVATION SYSTEM BE IMPLEMENTED EQUITABLY FOR PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET RESERVATIONS, STILL ENJOY THE SPACE, UM, AND COULD IT BE DONE SO THAT ANYBODY WHO WANTED ONE COULD GET ONE AT LEAST IN AN EQUITABLE WAY, UM, IS THIS A MODEL THAT COULD BE DONE IN OTHER SPACES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY WORK FOR OTHER SPACES? UM, PARTICULARLY AS THE CITY GROWS, LOOKING AT OUR SPACES, PARTICULARLY THE ONES WITH THE MOST IMPACT AND THE BUSIEST IS THIS A MODEL THAT WE COULD LOOK AT FOR OTHER SPACES AND ALSO ARE THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS AND CHALLENGES WITH INCREASING STAFF LEVELS.

UM, HAVING MORE PEOPLE THERE, WHAT DOES THAT DO, UM, FOR THE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT ITSELF AND FOR THE USERS AND VISITORS OF THE SPACE.

AND THEN LASTLY, WOULD THERE BE ANY CHANGES FOR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS? AND WE SEE SUBSTANTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS CURRENTLY UNDER THE USE OF THE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT.

IF WE IMPLEMENTED A RESERVATION SYSTEM, WOULD THAT POTENTIALLY REDUCE

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UM, NEXT SLIDE WILL JUST BE A REVIEW OF SOME OF THAT DATA AND GIVE YOU GUYS, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THE DATA THAT WE'VE COLLECTED.

SO ALL RESERVATION SLOTS WERE FULL IN AUGUST.

UM, IT WAS PEOPLE WERE, WERE REALLY ONE OF THOSE SPOTS AND, UM, IT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WHERE WE WERE NOTICING THAT IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO GET A RESERVATION.

SO AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE DID INCREASE THE NUMBER OF AVAILABLE RESERVATIONS SO THAT MORE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE ACCESS.

AND AT THAT POINT, WHEN WE DID THAT, YOU KNOW, SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, THERE WERE ALWAYS SPOTS WITHIN THE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT THAT YOU COULD GO ONLINE AND GET.

UM, SO THAT WAS A CHANGE THAT WE MADE KIND OF HALFWAY THROUGH TO, TO HELP SEE WHAT WAS POSSIBLE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AS WELL AS TO, TO HELP MEET THAT EQUITABLE GOAL.

UM, AND THEN SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO NOTICED, AND I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY, UM, AN INTERESTING STATISTIC WAS THAT 34% OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAD RESERVATIONS SHOWED UP.

AND SO THAT SHOWED US THAT A RESERVATION SYSTEM IN A PILOT MANNER IS ACTUALLY REALLY DIFFICULT.

YOU HAVE TO BUILD COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDING AWARENESS, AND SOME OF THAT JUST TAKES TIME AND A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, THAT'S HARD TO DO SO TO SOME EXTENT, UM, IT WOULD TAKE A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND A SYSTEM, TO LEARN A SYSTEM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, SO PEOPLE WERE MAKING RESERVATIONS AND THEN JUST NOT SHOWING UP, UM, AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE FOR THE DATA REVIEW ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, UM, WE LOOKED AT THE FACT THAT WITH THAT, UM, WE JUST HAD CONCERNS.

SO WE, WE HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS GOOD AS FAR AS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE PER ENTRANCE.

AND IF ONLY 34% WERE SHOWING UP, THEN WE WERE NOT MEETING KIND OF THAT NUMBER.

WE WERE, IT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER.

SO AT THAT POINT WE DID SHIFT AS WELL, HALFWAY THROUGH, UM, AND WE STARTED TO ALLOW PEOPLE KIND OF DO A HYBRID SYSTEM.

SO IT WAS NOT ONLY ONLINE, BUT WE ALLOWED, UM, PEOPLE AT EACH ENTRANCE, UM, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OR CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE PER HOUR.

AND SO THAT FIRST NUMBER YOU SEE THERE THAT 4,600 NUMBER IS THOSE THAT WERE ALLOWED IN WITHOUT A RESERVATION, SO THAT SOMEONE SHOWED UP AND SAID, I DON'T HAVE A RESERVATION.

WE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE, WE STILL HAVE OPENINGS.

WE HAVEN'T MET KIND OF OUR GOAL FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, CAPACITY AT THE SITE BASED ON THE RESERVATIONS THAT HAVE SHOWN UP SO WE CAN, WELL, WE'RE ALLOWING YOU GUYS IN.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DID THERE.

UM, THAT 1600 NUMBER OF THE VISITORS THAT WERE TURNED AWAY, THAT WAS KIND OF IN THE FIRST PART OF THE PROGRAM WHERE WE SAW THAT, UM, WE WERE TURNING PEOPLE AWAY.

UM, AND, AND WE'VE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO IT AS WELL.

UM, THE DOGS, I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS, UM, THAT'S ALWAYS A GREAT NUMBER TO LOOK AT.

UM, OH, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE, AREN'T TAKING THEIR DOGS TO ENJOY THE SPACE.

AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, WE DID SEE, UM, THE NUMBER OF CONTACTS FOR, UM, OR THE NUMBER OF TIMES PEOPLE HAD TO BE SPOKEN TO ABOUT PUTTING THEIR DOG ON A LEASH IN THIS SPACE WAS SUBSTANTIALLY DOWN FROM OUR PARK RANGERS.

SO THAT DID SEEM TO SHOW THAT PEOPLE WERE, UM, RECREATING POTENTIALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE RESPONSIBILITY AND HAVING THEIR DOG ON MISSION, FOLLOWING THAT PARK RULE, UM, DURING THE RESERVATION PILOT ITSELF.

UM, THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO A LOT OF OUR DATA IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PUBLIC SURVEY AND WE TOOK THIS INFORMATION REALLY TO HEART WHEN WE CAME BACK AND SPOKE TO YOU GUYS LAST TIME, SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY KIND OF STOOD OUT TO ME AT LEAST, WAS THERE WAS, THERE WAS, UH, A BIG, A GOOD QUESTION IF WE'RE JUST GOING OUT AND PUTTING A SURVEY ONLINE, HOW ARE WE REALLY REACHING PEOPLE? AND SO IN ADJUSTMENT, WE ALSO MADE, UM, AFTER HEARING BACK FROM YOU GUYS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYBODY WHO CAME TO AN ENTRANCE DURING A RESERVATION PERIOD, THEY WOULD GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A SURVEY.

AND SO IF YOU WERE TURNED AWAY, YOU GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A SURVEY.

IF YOU WERE ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WAS ALLOWED IN AND TO THE CHANGES IN THE RESERVATIONS, YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A SURVEY.

AND IF YOU WERE SOMEBODY WHO JUST GOT A RESERVATION AND SHOWED UP, YOU ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A SURVEY IN-PERSON SO THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND I SEPARATED OUT THE IN-PERSON AND THE ONLINE, BECAUSE THERE WAS, WE'RE ACTUALLY PRETTY, PRETTY DIFFERENT.

AND SO, UM, IF I COMBINED THEM, I THINK THEY'VE LOST A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR VOICE, SO I SEPARATED THEM OUT.

AND I'LL, I'LL GO THROUGH THAT REAL QUICKLY WITH YOU ALL AS WELL.

WHAT WE FOUND WITH IN-PERSON SURVEY WAS THAT A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WERE FIRST-TIMERS OR ONCE A YEAR VISITORS.

SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAD VISITED THE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT DURING THE RESERVATION PERIOD FROM AUGUST THROUGH OCTOBER WERE FIRST-TIMERS ARE ONCE A YEAR, WHICH IS KIND OF FASCINATING TO ME.

WHEREAS A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE RESPONDING ONLINE WERE PEOPLE WHO VISITED THE SITE EITHER WEEKLY OR MONTHLY, SO WERE MUCH MORE FREQUENT USERS OF THE GREENBELT, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, UM, THEY WERE NOT NECESSARILY DOING THE SURVEY IN PERSON.

THEY WERE CHOOSING TO DO IT ONLINE.

SO THEY SHARED IN COMMON THAT THEY BOTH LIKED

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HIKING NATURE AND SWIMMING.

THAT'S WHY THEY VISITED THE GREENBELT.

UM, THE LOCATIONS WASN'T THAT DIFFERENT SOUTH, SOUTH, UM, EAST AUSTIN WAS CONSISTENTLY THE MOST FREQUENT, UM, ZIP CODE USED.

UM, YOU DID SEE SOME OF MORE, UM, EXTERNAL TO AUSTIN'S ZIP CODES AND THE ONLINE, OR I'M SORRY, IN THE IN-PERSON AS WELL.

AND THEN THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE WAS THE ABILITY TO GET A RESERVATION AND THE ONLINE RESERVATION SYSTEM, THERE WAS A PRETTY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.

UM, SOME ARE 73, 76% EXPERIENCE, POSITIVE REPORTED, POSITIVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT, FOR THE IN-PERSON PEOPLE THAT PEOPLE WHO WERE AT THE, THE ENTRANCES TO THE GREENBELT, WHEREAS ONLINE I'M ONLY 21% AND 17% FOUND THAT TO BE A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE.

SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS MIGHT'VE HAD TROUBLE, UM, GETTING, UM, AN ONLINE RESERVATION.

UM, AND THEN YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT MORE THAN 50% SAID, UM, THAT IT WAS POSITIVE, UM, AROUND, YOU KNOW, JUST MORE THAN 50%.

SO IT WAS ACTUALLY POSITIVE FOR THOSE WHO SHOWED UP TO HA TO HAVE A RESERVATION SYSTEM, JUST BECAUSE IT CREATED A LESS, UM, LESS CROWDED SPACE THAT WASN'T THE CASE FOR PEOPLE ONLINE.

UM, THEY DEFINITELY SAID THAT ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT THINGS FOR THEM WAS SIMPLY GETTING A RESERVATION.

AND THEN, UM, THEY BOTH SHARED THAT THE LARGEST NEGATIVE, UM, OF A RESERVATION SYSTEM WAS JUST ADVANCED PLANNING AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PLAN AND AHEAD OF TIME.

SO THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF THE RESULTS OF OUR, OF OUR, UM, PUBLIC SURVEY.

SOMETHING WE ALSO HEARD WAS, YOU KNOW, BY MORE PARKLAND, BY MORE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT, UM, SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN HAVE MORE OF THIS.

SO THAT WAS, THERE WAS A LOT OF SUPPORT, A LOT OF LOVE FOR THIS SPACE, WHICH IS ALWAYS REALLY, UM, GOOD TO HEAR.

AND THERE WERE A LOT OF INVESTED STAKEHOLDERS, WHICH I THINK WE PROBABLY ALL KNOW A BOARD MEMBER FOUSE BEAUTIFUL BACKGROUND EARLIER, OR THE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT.

IT'S, IT'S A UNIQUE AND BEAUTIFUL SPACE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN THAT WE WANT TO PROTECT, UM, FOR EVERYBODY TO USE.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY HEARD, UM, THROUGHOUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THESE GROUPS HAD IN COMMON THAT THEY BOTH, UM, IDENTIFIED AS ONE OF THE LARGER PROBLEMS WAS TRASH AND THE AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT THEY SAW AT THE SITE.

AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, WE GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A TRASH SURVEY.

SO THAT QUESTION ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT, WHAT WE WERE USING FOR THAT WAS THIS TRASH SURVEY.

OUR GRANGERS HAVE COLLECTED, UM, USING A WATERSHED PROTECTION PROTOCOL, UM, JUST A QUICK SURVEY OF TRASH.

UM, AND THEY'VE DONE THAT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, UM, AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS OF THE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT, SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF COMPARE WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT WE COULDN'T REALLY SHOW A DIFFERENCE.

UM, THERE WAS NO STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT, NO REAL BIG TRENDS THAT WE COULD PULL OUT HERE.

IT DEFINITELY DIDN'T SEEM TO DECREASE.

UM, IT ALSO, UM, IT JUST, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PULL THE DATA OUT OF HERE.

I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE REALLY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.

WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY IN THE SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, SEE, UM, A REDUCTION IN TRASH.

UM, WE ALSO WEREN'T CLEARING THE SITE AFTER EACH TIME.

SO AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S, THAT'S OLD OR NEW, UM, WHO BAGS TYPICALLY ARE NEW.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THERE, BUT WE ALSO HAD A REDUCTION OF THOSE AND , SO, UM, THERE WASN'T ANYTHING WE COULD REALLY POINT TO IN REDUCTION IN ANY ENVIRONMENTAL INTEGRITY ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, THE PILOT PERIOD.

SO THAT LED US TO KIND OF OUR NEXT, UM, OUR NEXT AND THOUGHTS ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH WERE THAT, UM, THERE SEEMED TO BE A REAL OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR MORE VISITOR INTERACTION, ESPECIALLY WITHIN THIS LARGE URBAN PRESERVE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD, UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED WAS HOW LONG HAS THE TRAIL, UM, WHAT ARE YOU THE COOL THINGS, YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS SPACE? AND IT WAS LESS THAN A THIRD OF PEOPLE COULD IDENTIFY IT AS ENDANGERED SPECIES HABITAT OR COULD EXPLAIN HOW LONG THE TRAIL WAS, UM, OR SOME OF THOSE OTHER KIND OF META DETAILS ASSOCIATED WITH KIND OF THIS UNIQUE ENVIRONMENT.

AND SO THERE DOES SEEM TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO REALLY PROVIDE A BETTER INTERACTION AND OPPORTUNITIES TO APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND AND ENJOY, UM, THE SPACE.

WE ALSO HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT THEY ACTUALLY KIND OF LIKED THE PEOPLE, UM, IN THE SURVEYS IN PERSON, UM, ENJOYED THE INTERACTIONS THAT THEY HAD WITH THE PARK MONITORS AT THE ENTRANCE.

UM, SO GIVEN, GIVEN SOME OF THIS INFORMATION, UM, WE ALSO FOUND THAT THE RESERVATION SYSTEM WAS BURDENSOME, WHETHER IT BE THE CURRENT RESERVATION SYSTEM, OR JUST BE GETTING RESERVATIONS IN GENERAL AND THAT ADVANCED PLANNING, ALL OF THAT WAS DEFINITELY VERY CLEAR AND THE RESPONSES THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, AND AS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WE CAME TO A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO PRETTY SIMPLY DISCONTINUE THE RESERVATION SYSTEM.

OBVIOUSLY IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT, UM,

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THAT WORKED REAL WELL ASSOCIATED WITH US RIGHT NOW IN TIME, UH, GIVEN TECHNOLOGY, GIVEN WHERE WE ARE, UM, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE WERE BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE HAD.

UM, IN ADDITION, WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, A RECOMMENDATION OF A PARK AMBASSADOR PROGRAM SPECIFIC TO THE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT.

SO AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE KIND OF A CAREER LADDER FOR MAYBE, UM, YOUNGER OR EMERGING, UM, PEOPLE IN THEIR CAREER WHO WANTED TO FURTHER THEIR CAREER IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PROVIDE MORE HANDS-ON LEARNING AND EDUCATION SPECIFIC WITHIN THAT SPACE ITSELF, UM, ADDITIONAL VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES, THE ABILITY TO LEAD SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND, AND REALLY ALSO TO BE, UM, KIND OF EYES AND EARS TO AT THAT SITE.

UM, SO, UH, A VERSION OF OUR, UM, OF OUR PARK RANGERS, BUT, UH, A LITTLE LOWER LEVEL OF SCALE AND, UH, KIND OF DURING ONLY HIGH SEASON, UM, WAS KIND OF OUR RECOMMENDATION ASSOCIATED WITH OUR PARK AMBASSADORS, KIND OF GIVEN SOME OF THE, UM, INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED THROUGH THE DATA THAT WE HAD.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU ALL TONIGHT AND WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION THAT I CAN PROVIDE.

THANK YOU, AMANDA.

UM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUST SEE IF WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

SO WE'LL START WITH BOARD MEMBER MASON MURPHY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

UM, HAD A QUESTION ON THE 34% OF THE PEOPLE CLAIMED THEIR RESERVATIONS WAS, DID THE SYSTEM EVER RESOLVE AND GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CANCEL THEIR RESERVATION, OR WERE THEY NEVER ALLOWED TO CANCEL? THEY, UM, THEY WERE ALLOWED TO CANCEL 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE, BUT AFTER THAT 24 HOUR PERIOD, THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO CANCEL.

IT WAS KIND OF LIKE WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS AND THEIR NAMES WERE ALREADY ON A LIST AND BEING PRINTED AND YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT.

SO AT THAT POINT, WE, WE, UM, DID STOP ALL COMMENSALISM CANCELLATIONS, BUT ANYTHING BEFORE 24 HOURS, THEY COULD GO IN AND CANCEL.

GOTCHA.

SO THAT MIGHT HAVE INFLUENCED THAT NUMBER ALSO, AS, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE WERE, UM, ALLOWED TO INTERACT WITH THE SYSTEM IN REAL TIME, THEY MIGHT NOT.

SO WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE ABOUT THE WILDLIFE HABITAT OR THE ENVIRONMENTAL, OR HOW LONG, UM, REALLY WHAT YOU WERE POINTING TO IS WE HAVE A HUGE OPPORTUNITY AND REALLY AN OBLIGATION TO EDUCATE OUR POPULATION.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN SAN ANTONIO ALONG THEIR CREEK SYSTEMS AND ALL THEIR TRAILS AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE, THERE'S SIGNAGE.

AND, UM, THEY EXPLAINED TO PEOPLE WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHY THEY'RE PLANTING THIS WAY AND WHY THE TRAILS DO THIS.

AND IT'S JUST A REAL, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY I THINK WE'VE BEEN MISSING AND THE BARTON CREEK'S A GREAT PLACE TO DO IT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

IF YOU, UM, MAYBE WE NEED A PUBLIC RELATIONS, BRIT OF ALL THE OTHER TRAILS.

REMEMBER CUTTING.

CYBIL SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND OUR PLAN TO, UM, BRING UP SOMETHING.

I, UH, I HAD SOME STUDENTS DID A, UH, COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP IN AUSTIN CLASS IN THE FALL, AND SOME OF MY STUDENTS, I HAD THREE BOYS THAT WEREN'T MINE, THEN CROSS COUNTRY TRACK TEAM, AND THEY WERE FREAKING PRESENT THESE TRAILS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID FOR A FUN PROJECT IS THEY HAD SUGGESTIONS FOR HOW WE COULD IMPROVE, UM, THE TRIFLE TO GET PEOPLE ON DIFFERENT TRAILS SO THAT IT WOULDN'T BE SO CROWDED IN THE ONES THAT ARE WELL-KNOWN.

AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY POINTED OUT, UM, WAS HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO LOOK AT THE MAP.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAP ON THE CITY WEBSITE, YOU SEE ALL THE PLACES TO LOOK IT UP, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NAMES OF THOSE TRAILS ARE.

YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO FIND TRAILS.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HAD, UH, THERE WAS, UH, SOME SORT OF TRAIL OVERSTOCKS.

UM, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID, THAT'S IT.

IF THEY BROKE THREE PEOPLE INTO THREE SECTIONS, ONE OF THEM WOULD CLEAN UP THE OTHER TRAILS.

LIKE THEY POINTED OUT, THEY HAD BEEN RUNNING DOWN AT ONION CREEK, THE TRAILS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MORE LIMITED HERE, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE, IF SOME OF THEM WERE EXTENDED OR, OR IMPROVED FORGIVE PEOPLE IN THE PLACE TO GO, AND THEN THEY TALKED ALSO ABOUT WALTON CREEK, THE WALNUT CREEK TRAIL, AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I GUESS I'M MAKING THIS POINT SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE WAYS THAT WE HELP PEOPLE FAN OUT TO THE OTHER TRAILS, IF WE MAKE THEM MORE AWARE OF THE OTHER TRAILS, AND IT MIGHT TAKE THE PRESSURES, JUST TAKING THE PRESSURE OFF OF THE TOWN LAKE TRAIL, BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS

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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WAS KEY WAS HAVING A MORTGAGE THAT WOULD BE EASIER AND MORE INTERACTIVE FOR THE PUBLIC.

AND WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I HAD TO HAVE MY DAUGHTER WHO IS IN GIS, SHOW ME HOW TO PEEL OFF THE LAYERS TO FALL THINGS, YOU KNOW, WHAT I NEEDED TO FIND ON THE TRAIL.

SO, UM, THOSE WERE THE CENTS OFF MY SIDE BECAUSE I SEE WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT.

AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO, I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR.

I JUST THINK THE RESERVATIONS ISN'T WORKING.

SO, SO THANK YOU.

UM, WE'RE MORGAN, YOU MUTED, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I'M KINDA NOT SURPRISED THE RESERVATION SYSTEM, UH, DIDN'T WORK AS WELL AS YOU THOUGHT IT MIGHT WORK.

UH, AND I THINK YOUR CONCLUSION IS THAT IT TAKES A LOT MORE TIME TO HELP EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT OUR RESERVATION SYSTEM.

UM, BUT I DO THINK, UH, I THINK THE THEMES IN YOUR CLASS, UH, COTTON LEVEL BOARD MEMBER CAUCUS, AVALON, DID THEY SHARE, HAVE THEY SHARED THEIR PROJECT FINDINGS WITH THE PARK BOARD? UH, THEY HAVE NOT, I STRONGLY ENCOURAGED THEM TO DO SO, BUT KEEP THEM IN COLLEGE SO THEY MAY NOT HAVE IT.

I CAN SHOW IT TO YOU I'LL GET PERMISSION AND SHOW IT TO YOU GUYS.

WELL, I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK IF I WOULD SUSPECT THAT AMANDA WOULD APPRECIATE SEEING THAT BECAUSE IT DOES, UH, IT, IT IS A WAY OF, OF INCREASING USER USER-FRIENDLY WAYS OF BEING ON THE TRAILS.

AND I THINK THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM IS A GREAT IS, IS REALLY A GREAT, UH, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HELP, UH, PROVIDE COMMUNITY EDUCATION.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND I'LL JUST ADD IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY WORKED ON, YOU KNOW, WITH KIND OF COVID OVER THE PAST YEAR, IF WE HAD A LESSER KNOWN TRAILS SECTION ON INSTAGRAM, UM, TO HELP KIND OF LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT TRAILS THAT WERE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND MAYBE NOT AS FREQUENTED.

AND THEN WE ALSO DID A, UM, UH, PARTICULARLY AT, UM, LEN CREEK NATURE PRESERVE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN IT, BUT THERE'S THIS GREAT, UM, INTERACTIVE VIDEO WHERE YOU CAN BASICALLY HIKE THE BLIND CREEK NATURE TRAIL FROM YOUR COMPUTER AND IT TAKES YOU LIKE THREE MINUTES AND IT GETS YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND YOU CAN KIND OF BE PREPARED FOR IT.

AND IT'S SOMETHING WE'D LIKE TO, WE'RE WORKING TO EXPAND FROM OUR END, BECAUSE I FOUND IT VERY VALUABLE AND A GREAT WAY TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE ON A TRAIL AND PREPARE BEFORE YOU GO ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS.

REMEMBER LUCA.

AND REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND I'D LIKE TO, UM, ECHO FOR TRAIL MAPS.

UM, I ASKED ABOUT THIS JUST A MONTH OR TWO AGO, UM, ACTUALLY DURING THE HOLIDAY BECAUSE I HAD FAMILY FROM OUT OF TOWN COME AND THEY HIKE THE TRAIL.

WELL, IT'S VERY HARD TO TELL THEM HOW TO NAVIGATE THOSE TRAILS WITHOUT A GOOD MAP AND WITHOUT HAVING A LOT OF TOOLS, UM, TO TRY ON, UH, OUTSIDE ON YOUR SMARTPHONE.

UM, SO I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO KIND OF NOTE DOWN THE, UM, THE MAPPING SYSTEM TO MAKE IT VERY SIMPLE.

UM, FOLKS CAN NAVIGATE THE TRAIL.

SO I LIKE THE IDEA THAT INTERACTIVE, YOU KNOW, THAT AMANDA WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE SOME TRAILS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE WALNUT CREEK, UM, ARE PROBABLY NOT APPROPRIATE FOR YOUNG CHILDREN.

SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GO ON ONE OF THOSE FOLKS WITH THE LITTLE TODDLER, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD BE THERE.

UM, BUT, BUT THERE ARE OTHER TRAILS THAT ARE QUITE APPROPRIATE FOR SMALLER CHILDREN OR CORE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOLKS ON BIKES OR, OR WHO WANT A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGE IN, UM, HIKING.

UM, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND PLEASE TO KEEP ALIVE THE MAPPING IDEA.

WE'LL DO ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO ADD IN RESPONSE TO THAT TOO, IS THAT, UM, ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES WITH MAPPING IS THAT, UM, FOR EVERY ONE MILE OF LEGAL TRAIL, THERE'S TYPICALLY FOUR MILES OF ILLEGAL TRAIL.

AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO PROVIDE KIND OF THE LEGAL TRAILS, UM, AND WHAT GETS CONFUSING ARE ALL THAT THE SPAGHETTI BOWL OF ILLEGAL TRAILS MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT.

SO TRYING TO MANAGE THAT SPACE SO THAT THERE'S ILLEGAL TRAILS ARE, UH, LESS PROMINENT.

SO PEOPLE DON'T GET LOST BECAUSE IT CAN MAKE IT REALLY DIFFICULT FOR INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE.

THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER TAYLOR.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK AMANDA FOR YOUR WORK AND FOR PIVOTING, UM, DURING THIS CRISIS

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I'M JUST CURIOUS.

UM, CAUSE I THINK IT'S, UH, IT WAS A GREAT IDEA AND I'M GLAD YOU ALL DID IT.

I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW MUCH STAFF TIME, OR MAYBE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH EXTRA STAFF TIME OF WORK WAS PUT IN, JUST EVEN DO THIS, DO THIS PART.

SO IT WAS A LOT OF TIME, ALL OF THAT.

UM, BUT IT ALSO PROVIDED US SOMETHING WHICH I THINK WAS GOOD FOR THE SYSTEM.

WE DID, WE WERE ABLE TO GET A SMALL BUDGET ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE STAFF.

SO WITH THE SUMMER, THE LACK OF SUMMER PROGRAMMING WITH COVID WITH ALL OF THAT, THERE WAS A LOT OF TEMPORARY STAFF THAT DIDN'T HAVE JOBS AND WERE STRUGGLING SUBSTANTIALLY.

AND SO WHAT WAS ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, A BENEFIT OF THIS PROGRAM DURING COVID WAS, IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND NEEDED JOB, UM, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ANTICIPATING ON THAT SUMMER MONEY.

AND, UM, AND IT, IT WASN'T ABLE TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE WE, WE SHIFTED A LOT.

UM, AND SO THAT WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME OF THAT.

UM, WE HAD A BUDGET OF AROUND $50,000.

UM, AND SO IT IS SOMETHING WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, UM, FUNDING AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT A PARK AMBASSADOR PROGRAM, KIND OF STARTING WITH THAT LEVEL AND KIND OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT MIGHT PROVIDE, UM, AND IT, IT WAS A LOT OF, UM, IT WAS A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING FROM OUR PARK RANGERS.

THEY PROVIDED A LOT OF GUIDANCE AND ON FORD SUPPORT FOR EVERYBODY, BUT IT ALSO, IT WAS A SURPRISING BENEFIT.

UM, THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE REALLY STRUGGLING, UM, WITHOUT FUNDING, WITHOUT JOBS DUE TO COVID, UM, IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM AS WELL.

WELL, IT'S A LOT OF VERY INTERESTING INFORMATION AND THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I'M GLAD THAT YOU ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND COLLECT INFORMATION AND LEARN ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE.

I HAD, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPECIFIC INFORMATION YOU, UM, PRESENTED, AND THEN A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, JUST THINGS WE CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT MOVING FORWARD.

I GUESS I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND FROM THE PRESENTATION AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED IT.

WAS THERE A WAY TO SAY, UM, THE, THE TOTAL VISITOR NUMBERS DURING THE RESERVATION SYSTEM AND COMPARE THAT TO TOTAL VISITOR NUMBERS FOR THE SAME MONTHS OF THE YEAR WHEN WE'RE NOT DOING A RESERVATION SYSTEM, DO WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, THAT DETAILED.

UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT DETAILED, UH, WE HAD SOME DATA FROM 2013 THAT WE COULD LOOK BACK AT.

UM, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, THAT FINE GRAIN DETAIL WITH IT.

UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT AROUND 1200 PEOPLE PER DAY, UM, FOR EACH OF THE RESERVATION.

I'M THAT TIMEFRAME THAT DIDN'T INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE 10 30 OR AFTER SEVEN 30.

SO, BUT WE DON'T KNOW REALLY, SO 1200 PEOPLE PER DAY DURING THE RESERVATION REQUIRED TIME, BUT WE DON'T KNOW ON A, I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU, UH, YEAH, I COULDN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY.

UM, WE CAN A YEAR AGO AND IT'S NOT APPLES-TO-APPLES ANYWAYS BECAUSE OF COVID, BUT, OKAY.

SO I JUST WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT.

ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THE DATA, UM, YOU MENTIONED THE DOG CONTEXT BEING DOWN.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IF THAT WAS, AGAIN, LIKE THEY WERE DOWN ON A PER CAPITA BASIS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF VISITORS TOTAL OR THEY WERE DOWN JUST BECAUSE THERE WAS LESS PEOPLE THERE AND THERE'S LESS DOGS OFF THE LEASH, I MEAN, OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE DOG CONTACT IS FOR.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

SO, UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT IT OVERALL, RIGHT? SO THAT YOU'RE RIGHT.

THERE'S MORE, THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE ON THE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT DURING THAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE RESERVATION PERIOD WOULD HAVE BEEN LAST YEAR AND WE'RE THIS YEAR, BECAUSE WE WERE, WE WERE LIMITING THE NUMBERS.

AND SO OVERALL THEY WERE DOWN.

UM, SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT, THAT, THAT IS A COMPARISON ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

BUT WHAT WE FOUND WAS JUST IN GENERAL, UM, THERE WAS, WE SAW LESS COMPLAINTS AS WELL, SO WE WEREN'T SEEING AS MANY, UM, WE OFTEN GET COMPLAINTS, PLEASE GO TO THIS SPACE.

YOU KNOW, THE DOGS ARE OFF-LEASH AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS.

IT WAS GOOD INFORMATION TO GET, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PRESENTED ABOUT WHY WE WERE DOING THE PROGRAM, WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THIS LIST OF ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH, WITH MANAGING, UM, THE IMPACTS OF VISITORS, WHICH ARE TOO MUCH LITTER WHEN WE'RE CROWDED SWIMMING AREAS, THE DOG POOP BAGS, YOU KNOW, THE LOUD MUSIC, DISPOSABLE CONTAINERS, DOGS OFF THE LEASH.

UM, OKAY.

SO, UH, OH, OKAY.

SO THAT'S HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND, UM, A COUPLE OF, I MEAN, I GUESS OVERALL, I FEEL LIKE WE STILL IS,

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SO I GUESS I'M FEELING LIKE IN, IN CONCLUSION, WE, WE, HAVEN'T STILL, HAVEN'T FOUND A WAY TO REALLY RESOLVE ALL THOSE RESOLVING OF THOSE CHALLENGES.

HOWEVER, YOU DO HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM, WHICH I THINK IS, UM, VERY COOL.

THAT'S, UH, I THINK A GREAT IDEA, ESPECIALLY THE WAY YOU DESCRIBE IT AS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A LADDER PROGRAM.

UM, I'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M CONCERNED THAT IN THE SPRING, AS SOON AS, YOU KNOW, COME LATE MARCH EARLY APRIL, AND WE GET SOME SWIMMING HOLES FILLED UP, WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF THAT OVERCROWDING.

A LOT OF THAT LITTER, A LOT OF THOSE IMPACTS AGAIN, BECAUSE, UM, FOR ONE THING, I MEAN, IN MY, I, I HAVE NO DATA, BUT I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT SINCE WE COUNTED IN 2013, THAT IN THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, GIVEN WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH THE AUSTIN POPULATION AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE MOVING HERE THAT WE HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE THERE DOWN THERE THAN WE THOUGHT, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN THIS SPRING IN PARTICULAR, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NONE OF THEIR TRADITIONAL SPRING FESTIVALS HAPPENING, UM, BECAUSE OF COVID AND, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK REALLY HEAVY USE.

SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF VISITOR MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE WE CAN MOVE INTO.

UM, AND THAT BRINGS ME JUST TO A COMMENT MOVING FORWARD.

I WOULD HOPE THAT AT SOME POINT SOON WE CAN, I KNOW IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME FUNDING, BUT FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THOSE VISITOR COUNTS.

AGAIN, I THINK WORKING FROM 2013 DATA IS MAKE IS CHALLENGING.

UM, AND ESPECIALLY TO DO IT, I KNOW Y'ALL HAD SAID IN 2013, IT WAS ACTUALLY THE SAME IN THE FALL IN THE SPRING.

UM, BUT TO DO IT AGAIN IN THE FALL AND THE SPRING EARLY SUMMER, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW SORT OF ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE OF PEOPLE THAT VISIT IS THAT IT, IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE IN THE SWIMMING AREAS, BUT THAT MAY JUST BE BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S CONGREGATED IN THOSE AREAS, IF IT RAINS IN THE FALL, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE PEOPLE.

SO, NO, I AM HOPEFUL.

WE CAN STILL WORK ON SOME ADDITIONAL MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUES.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I HAD, IT SOUNDS CRAZY, BUT WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE RESERVATION SYSTEM, I THOUGHT LIKE, WELL, COULD YOU DO DOG RESERVATIONS? I MEAN, CAN YOU, IS THERE A WAY TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF, OF DOGS? AND THEN THE OTHER THING, UM, WOULD BE LOOKING AT NO DOG AREAS, CAUSE IT IS SO HARD TO POLICE THE OFF THE LEASH DOGS, MAKING AREAS WHERE PEOPLE WITH YOUNG CHILDREN AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE ISSUES WITH DOGS WOULD FEEL SAFE, GOING INTO EXPERIENCE THE GREENBELT AND NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO KIND OF CARVE OUT SOME OF THOSE SPACES.

UM, SO I MEAN, I GUESS MY COMMENTS ARE LIKE, I HOPE WE CAN GET ANOTHER VISITOR COUNT AND THEN LOOKED AT SOME OF THESE, CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THESE MANAGEMENT ISSUES.

AND IT PROBABLY ALL JUST COMES BACK TO, UM, TO FUNDING.

AND, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I MEAN, I WISH IT'S, SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE.

LIKE I DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET TO USE THE SYSTEM VERY MUCH.

I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME INTO THE CATEGORY OF CAN'T PLAN AHEAD AND WE'RE KIND OF JOKING.

SO MY FRIENDS IT'S LIKE, I CAN'T PLAN LIKE HAPPY TO GOING CRAZY WITH MY KIDS AND NEEDING TO GET OUTSIDE AND GO TO THE, GO TO THE TRAIN.

SO, UM, I WISH I'D GOTTEN TO SORT OF EXPERIENCE IT MORE OF IT.

SO, AND I'M GOING TO TRY, CAUSE I WANT TO GET US OUT OF HERE PRETTY SOON.

I'M GOING TO, UM, KIND OF WRAP THIS UP BY FIRST OF ALL, I I'M REALLY GLAD YOU GUYS TRIED THIS PILOT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

I WANT TO ECHO WHAT SARAH SAID THAT WE, AS THE POPULATION IN AUSTIN CONTINUES TO GROW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HIGHER AND HIGHER DEMAND ON OUR PARKS AND GREEN SPACES.

AND WE SAW THAT WITH THE PANDEMIC.

I MEAN, I, I, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WOULD APPRECIATE THAT PEOPLE LOVE THEIR PARKS AND GREEN SPACES AND THEY WANT TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME THERE AS POSSIBLE.

SO I DO HAVE ONE, I DID WANT TO ASK ONE REALLY QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE I WANT US TO TALK, BUT THE, THE SLIDE YOU HAD ON TRASH, I WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS WHERE THEY SAID 18, I MEAN, THEY WERE KIND OF, YEAH, SO SLIDE

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SEVEN.

SO, UM, WHAT THAT IS IS THAT, UM, SO THIS IS THE TRASH SURVEY THAT THE PARK RANGERS GO OUT AND DO IN THE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR.

AND SO WE WERE THINKING, WELL, WE COULD TAKE THAT DATA AND COMPARE LIKE IF THERE IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS POOP BAGS IN FYI 21, AND THERE WERE IN ALL YEARS, WE COULD SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS MADE, YOU KNOW, THIS MADE A DIFFERENCE.

UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THE FYI 19 ACTUALLY HAD, HAD HAD A DIP, UM, AND IT WAS LOWER AS WELL.

SO WE WERE ALMOST JUST AS CLOSE AS WE WERE AN FYI 19.

SO WE, WE COULDN'T NECESSARILY PULL OUT THE DATA THAT WE WERE LOOKING.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE HOPING TO KIND OF FIND SOME CONCLUSIONS LIKE, OH YEAH, TRASH STAYED THE SAME.

AND IT WENT UP, IT WENT DOWN, WE REALLY COULDN'T CORRELATE ANY EVENT DATA.

SO JUST A QUICK SUMMARY, EACH OF THESE ITEMS. SO WHEN THE PARK RANGERS GO OUT, THEY SAY, HOW MANY POOP BAGS DO I SEE IN THIS AREA? HOW MANY ALCOHOL CONTAINERS DO I SEE IN THIS AREA? HOW MANY PLASTIC BAGS? AND THEY ARE LITERALLY JUST COUNTING.

UM, AND THEN THEY, THEY GO THROUGH A MISCELLANEOUS HAS ALWAYS KIND OF A LOT.

AND SO WE JUST WEREN'T ABLE IN THIS YEAR TO REALLY SHOW A DIFFERENCE IF WE WERE TO TAKE THIS KIND OF PILOT PERIOD THROUGH AND COMPARE IT TO PREVIOUS YEARS, WE COULDN'T SHOW A DIFFERENCE.

UM, OUR CHILD PROTECTION IS INCREASING THEIR TRASH QUALITY ASSURANCE PROTECTION PLAN AND ARE KIND OF CHANGING IT.

SO IT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE'LL WORK WITH THEM IN A FUTURE, CAUSE THEY'RE REAL INTERESTED IN CREEKS AND THE TRASH AROUND IT.

AND SO WE CAN HELP SUPPORT PARTNERS WITH THEM.

THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

SO, AND THEN MY OTHER THING WAS, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK SIGNAGE IS JUST CRUCIAL FOR THIS.

I MEAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SPANISH AND ENGLISH, AND THEN I, AND I LOVE THE PARK AMBASSADORS.

I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND I THINK YOU HAVE SOME GOOD PARTNERS, POTENTIAL PARTNERS, WHETHER WITH THE UNIVERSITIES SURROUNDING US AND THE SCHOOLS.

AND, AND SO I THINK IF, IF YOU ALL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY MAKE THAT HAPPEN, AND THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT PARKS PROBABLY BE HELPFUL WITH TOO, JUST KINDA MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC AWARENESS ABOUT IT.

BUT I DO THINK THERE JUST NEEDS TO BE MORE OF A PEOPLE TO REALLY FOLLOW THE, UM, REAL AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY DO BECAUSE THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LIVE IN A NUMBER OF SPACES AND THEY DO NEED TO BE KEPT UP.

AND I THINK THE RESERVATION SYSTEM WAS DEFINITELY ONE OPTION, BUT I CAN SEE WITH THE TECHNOLOGY AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND PEOPLE'S PATIENTS THAT THERE CAN BE PROBLEMS. BUT ANYWAYS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, AMANDA, WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION, UM, KEEP US POSTED.

OF PARTNERSHIP OF WAYS AS IT RELATES TO RESOLUTION.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO BE HELPFUL, LET US KNOW, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON REALLY QUICKLY TO THE DISCUSSION

[B.5. Discussion of partnership pathways as it relates to Resolution No. 20200312-041. (PARD Long Range Plan Strategies –Operational Efficiency; SD23 Outcomes – Health & Environment, Culture & Lifelong Learning) Presenter: Kimberly McNeeley, Director, Parks and Recreation Department]

AND THIS WAS, AS YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS OR A DIRECTOR, WE GAVE A PRESENTATION AT OUR LAST MEETING.

WE NEED TO DO THE PRESENTATION AGAIN, BUT, BUT WE DO, UH, IF PEOPLE HAD QUESTIONS.

AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

UH, RECORDING VOLUNTEER HOURS, AND THEN BEING ABLE TO HELP MONETIZE THAT.

ALSO I HAVE, UH, ONE, UM, ONE SLIDE THAT SAMMY CAN PUT UP ON THE BOARD THAT HELPS TO ADD, YOU HEARD FROM BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA ABOUT, UM, THE SUPPORT, THE FINANCIAL SUPPORTS THAT ARE PROVIDED, UM, THAT ARE PROVIDED OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, FROM OTHER OTHER COMMUNITIES, YOU PROBABLY SAW THAT.

SO I TRIED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A SLIDE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE MONETIZATION OF PARTS.

UM, SO WE CAN PUT THAT SLIDE UP AND LET YOU SEE THAT.

SO IT'S RIGHT HERE.

UM, JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE A KEY PERFORMANCE MEASURE THAT TAKES AN AVERAGE EVERY FIVE YEARS OF THE SUPPORTS THAT ARE PROVIDED BY OUR PARTNERS.

AND I KEEP PERFORMANCE MEASURE MEANS WE REPORT THAT VR BUDGET DOCUMENT, UM, DEMONETIZATION INCLUDES VOLUNTEER HOURS, WHICH IS, UH, THERE'S A PARTICULAR FORMULA THAT YOU USE TO BE ABLE TO, IT'S A STANDARD FORMULA THAT ARE USED BY PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO BE ABLE TO MONETIZE WHAT, WHAT VOLUNTEER HOURS ARE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO A PARK SYSTEM.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THERE'S THE ACTUAL FUNDING SUPPORTS, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY THAT INVESTED IN.

I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THERE'S, UM, THERE'S KIND OF A BIG SWING SOMETIMES BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT WORKING ON A PARTICULAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT SOMEBODY LIKE TO INVEST MONEY IN, OR THERE'S NOT, IT'S GOING THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS, RIGHT.

THEN MAYBE THERE'S NOT ALWAYS A HUGE CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT HAPPENS IN ANY GIVEN YEAR.

SO BY WAY OF EXAMPLE, UM, SO WHEN I, ONE OTHER THING IS THAT WE WEREN'T KEEPING AS GOOD A NUMBERS WITH VOLUNTEERS UNTIL CHRISTINE TO JOIN OUR TEAM AND HAS DONE A MUCH BETTER JOB OF RECORDING,

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SO OUR FIVE-YEAR AVERAGE, UM, YOU'LL SEE, EARLIER IN THE YEAR, YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR FIVE-YEAR AVERAGES ARE GOING TO SOME BIG SWINGS.

SO IF YOU COULD JUST GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SAMMY, PLEASE.

SO THIS JUST GIVES YOU THE INFORMATION.

I KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO SEE, I TRY TO MAKE IT AS BIG AS POSSIBLE, BUT IT JUST GIVES YOU, UM, THE PERCENTAGE ON THE RIGHT, UH, IT'S TELLS YOU THE ANNUAL PERCENTAGE OF NON-CITY FUNDING PER INVESTMENT.

SO ONE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BIG PROJECT INVESTMENTS, 19.3, 1% OF, OF THE MONEY THAT WAS INVESTED IN, IN, UM, PROJECTS AND VOLUNTEER HOURS THAT THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS THERE.

SO I LIKE TO CHRISTINE, TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'LL JUST BE QUIET AND LET YOU ALL ASK QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION AS, UM, ADDITIONAL TO WHAT WE DID LAST TIME.

EIGHT.

SO IT WAS CHRIS' TICKET TO TALK FIRST.

AND THEN ARE WE GOING TO ASK, I'M SORRY, I WASN'T SURE.

WHAT THING DID YOU WANT HER TO SPEAK FIRST OR US TO JUST GO AHEAD AND ASK QUESTIONS.

NOW YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND ASK QUESTIONS AND CHRISTINE'S ONBOARD.

SHE'S DONE WITH US SO SHE CAN HELP US.

UM, SHE CAN HELP ANSWER SOME OF THOSE PLACES.

OKAY, PERFECT.

OKAY, WELL LET'S GO AHEAD.

BOARD MEMBER, COTTON SEIBEL.

SO I CAN DEFINITELY SEE ALL THE USEFULNESS OF HAVING A KEYNOTE AND ESPECIALLY LIKE WITH APF, GIVING THE TALK EARLIER TODAY, I CAN SEE THE ABSOLUTE VALUE OF ALL THE VOLUNTEERS AND THE RAISING THE MONEY.

I HAVE A CONCERN BECAUSE OF A COUPLE OF PARTICULAR THINGS AND THAT IS, DO WE HAVE SOME SORT OF REGULATORY LANGUAGE THAT KEEPS, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE CONCERN THAT MOST OF US HAD, IF I'M, I'M TRYING TO GET BACK INTO OUR DISCUSSION AND OUR CONCERNS LAST LAST MONTH, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORRY ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IS WHO TAKES CONTROL, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHAT WHO SAYS YES AND NO.

AND WHO'S STEERS THINGS.

ONCE VOLUNTEERS TAKE OVER, YOU KNOW, TAKE OVER AN ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND, AND BECOME A PARTIAL STEER OF HOW PARKS ARE USED.

DO WE HAVE LANGUAGE TO DEAL WITH THAT? YEAH.

SO LET ME JUST START OFF, I'M GOING TO HAND THIS ONE OVER TO CHRISTINE, SIR, TO YOUR POINT OR MEMBER YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT UP INTO UNTIL JUST RECENTLY, WE KIND OF FEEL LET'S GO FORTH AND HAVE PARTNERSHIPS.

AND THEY WERE, UM, THEY WERE IN ALL DIFFERENT FORMATS, RIGHT? SOME OF THEM WERE FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM HANDSHAKE DEAL.

SOME OF THEM WERE, WERE PAPER PUT ON PAPER, BUT WE HAVE SINCE BECOME MORE SOPHISTICATED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

AND WE DO HAVE BASED TERMS FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PARTNERSHIPS, WHICH THEN EXACTLY OUTLINE, UM, RESPONSIBILITIES AND, AND, UM, ALSO AUTONOMY.

RIGHT? AND SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME AUTONOMY WITHIN A PARTICULAR PARK, YOU ALSO HAVE SOME VERY SPECIFIC RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT STILL RE RETAINS A LOT OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THINGS AND A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW THINGS BEFORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED.

AND THEN WITH THAT, I'M JUST GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO CHRISTINE TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES.

ON THE PARKLAND, RIGHT? WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES WHERE, WHERE ARE WHERE AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION REPLACES A PLAYGROUND AND PUTTING THEM WELL, THERE'S A COMPLETE PROCESS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT GOES INTO THAT.

UM, JUST A REMINDER FROM THE LAST MEETING, WE TALKED THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PATHWAY AND SO THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PARTNERSHIP.

AND SO EACH LEVEL OF PARTNERSHIP HAS A DIFFERENT KIND OF CRITERIA AND A PARTNER HAS TO MEET THAT CRITERIA THEN TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UM, THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ALLOWED WITHIN THAT CRITERIA.

AND SO, UM, SO IF LIKE KIMBERLY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE LEVEL OF AUTONOMY, IF THERE IS GOING TO BE A LEVEL OF AUTONOMY, THERE ARE ONE VIA A LOT OF, UM, UH, REVIEW OF THE ORGANIZATION TO MAKE SURE THE LINES WITH PAR.

UM, IT'S BEEN, UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S, UH, YOU KNOW, ALIGNMENT OF OUR PRIORITIES.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, EACH PROGRAM, EACH PROJECT WOULD HAVE A REVIEW PROCESS AS WELL.

UM, AND SO THAT SPEAKS TO REALLY ALL THE LEVELS OF THE PARTNERSHIPS AND REALLY THERE TO ALSO NOT JUST TO HAVE OVERSIGHT, BUT TO HELP, UH, THE PARTNERS, UH, WITH ANY OF THE PROJECTS, WITH ANY OF THE TECHNICAL PARTS OF THESE PROJECTS THAT THEY COULD RUN INTO.

AND WHEN I SAY PROJECTS, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE NECESSARILY PARKLAND IMPROVEMENTS.

SO A LOT OF THEM ARE PROGRAMMING OPPORTUNITIES OR EVENTS AT THE SITE, BUT AGAIN, BEING PUBLIC LAND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT CAN BE COMPLICATED.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE CITY STAFF IS ABLE TO REALLY, UM, PARTNER AND COLLABORATE WITH OUR PARTNERS ON ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS. YEAH.

AND IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE LAST THING TO THAT.

SO BY WAY OF EXAMPLE OF SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING

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OR BY WAY OF EXAMPLE, WHEN THE PEACE PARK CONSERVANCY IS GOING TO IMPROVE THAT PARK, THEY'RE IMPROVING THAT PARK BASED UPON AN ALREADY APPROVED VISION PLAN THAT WAS PASSED BY COUNCIL.

SO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION, OR I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THESE, THAT THE PARTNERS ARE DOING THINGS OUTSIDE OF, OF A COMMUNITY PROCESS AND AN, AND A COUNCIL OF PROCESS.

AND THE SAME THING GOES WITH OUR PROGRAMMING.

SO BY WAY OF EXAMPLE, THE REPUBLIC SQUARE, UM, THE DAA WHO'S WHO HELPS US WITH REPUBLIC SQUARE, THEY HAVE TO PUT, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT A PROGRAM PLAN EVERY YEAR THAT IS APPROVED.

AND ORIGINALLY THAT PROGRAM PLAN WAS, UM, WAS REVIEWED BY AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

AND WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE COUNCIL FELT COMFORTABLE THAT IT DIDN'T NEED TO COME BACK TO THEM ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

SO THOSE ARE JUST EXAMPLES.

YEAH, I GUESS I WAS JUST THINKING, I HAD HEARD AT ONE POINT, UM, THERE WAS A GROUP THAT WAS TALKING, TAKING OVER THE ENTRY FEES AND RUNNING THINGS AT THE ZILKER GARDENS THERE'S OVER BOTANICAL GARDENS AND THEY WERE JUST THERE TO UP THE PRICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND I THOUGHT THAT, THAT, THAT JUST WAS WHERE I WAS WONDERING, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHO HAS THE ULTIMATE BRAKES ON THAT? SO THERE IS LANGUAGE IN PLACE FOR YOU TO ULTIMATELY HAVE TO STAY.

YES, MA'AM CORRECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER.

YOU DID.

THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER TAYLOR.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EITHER.

BOARD MEMBER AND THE QUESTIONS I DO.

I JUST COULDN'T HEAR YOU.

UM, I HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS, SO, UH, I WAS READING THROUGH THIS RESOLUTION.

AND SO WHAT IS THE STRUCTURE FOR THE, FOR SAY, A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO BE IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH HARVARD TOUCH THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'D BEEN DOING.

SAY FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

WHAT'S DIFFERENT THOUGH.

CHRISTINE, ANSWER THAT.

UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, WELL, DEPENDING ON THE PARK, SO IF IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, A POCKET PARK, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, CAN GO THROUGH THE ADOPTIVE PARK PROGRAM.

UH, WE BEGAN AS ONE OF THOSE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AND, AND FORMALLY ADOPT THE PARK AS AN ADOPT A PARK, UH, ORGANIZATION.

UM, THERE IS, UH, AN APPLICATION FOR THE ADOPTIVE HEART.

THERE IS AN ORIENTATION, UM, BUT THEN THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THE PROGRAMMING AND THAT'S, UH, THE ADOPTIVE PARK PROGRAM IS CO-MANAGED BY AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND WE SUPPORT ALL OF OUR ADOPTIVE PARK, UH, GROUPS THROUGH STEWARDSHIP OR, UM, YOU KNOW, FUNDRAISING EVENTS.

AND THEN, AND THEN SOME GO ON TO DO PARKLAND IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL THROUGH THE COMMUNITY ACTIVATED PARK PROJECT PROPOSAL.

WE DON'T WANT JUST BIG PARTNERS.

AND I THOUGHT IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, WE ALSO TRY TO HELP THE, THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT ADOPT A PARKWAY, DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.

SO SOMETIMES IT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERING PROGRAM.

SOMETIMES IT'S, UM, A GRANT FOR THE AUSTIN X FOUNDATION FOR SOMETIMES IT'S SOME OTHER FUNDING SOURCE THAT JUST BECOMES AVAILABLE SPECIFIC TO THAT PARTICULAR ENTITY, BUT PERHAPS IT'S NOT AVAILABLE TO A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, BUT WE TRY TO HELP SUPPORT A GROUP THROUGH THAT PROJECT.

AND IF I COULD JUST MENTION SOMETIMES ADOPT DEPART PROGRAMS BY WAY OF EXAMPLE, IT USED TO BE TEASED FOR TREES, RIGHT.

THEY KIND OF ADOPTED, UM, HE'S PARKED AND THEY WERE PIECE FOR TREES THAT WAS PART OF THE PATHWAY FOR THEM TO BECOME A CONSERVANCY.

AND SO THEY WORK THEIR WAY IN RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

WE DEVELOPED, UM, A LONGER-TERM PARTNERSHIP AND THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO BUILD CAPACITY AND ACTUALLY BECOME THE PIECE OF CONSERVANCY.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS, THAT'S PART OF THAT.

THE IDEA OF HAVING THESE COMPRESSION PATHWAYS IS THAT ANYBODY CAN BE A PARTNER AND ANYONE CAN ASPIRE TO THE PARTNERSHIP LEVEL THAT THEY THINK IS MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR FOR THAT PARTICULAR PARK.

AND WE WANT TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT THEM.

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WE WANT ALL PARTNERS.

OH, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE.

SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR MANY YEARS LONG BEFORE BEING ON PARKS BOARD.

AND WE, AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE ADOPTED DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF OUR CREEK.

AND, UM, JUST AS RECENTLY AS THIS PAST YEAR, UM, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT CAME OUT AND MOWED DOWN OUR WHOLE COMMUNITY GARDEN THAT WE HAD AN AGREEMENT THAT THEY DIDN'T TOUCH.

AND SO, UH, IT WAS VERY UPSETTING TO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THAT ONE OF OUR LEAD GARDENERS, UH, IT SET HIM OFF AND HE HAS NOT TO OF, YEAH.

AND I THINK WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT, UM, FORD MEMBER, MASON MURPHY, AND, UH, I I'VE APOLOGIZED ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT AND I DON'T CONDONE IT.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

IT ABSOLUTELY HAPPENED AND WE HAVE TO DO BETTER, BUT YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WASN'T MY POINT.

I APPRECIATE THE APOLOGY, BUT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HOD IS AND PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR EIGHT YEARS FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.

UM, UM, NOT FOLLOWING BEST PRACTICES, BUT BEING REACTIONARY TO A NEIGHBOR WHO STARTED SOME SORT OF A NEIGHBOR THING.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME SORT OF STRUCTURE THAT HONORS THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE FOR EIGHT YEARS AND DOESN'T ACTIVELY SEEK TO DESTROY THERE'S ONE.

AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF IT IS I CAN'T, I KNOW FOR SURE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN OUR AREA IN D THREE D TWO D FIVE IS NOT THE ONLY AREA IN THE CITY THAT IS PIECEMEAL WITH WATERSHED DEPARTMENTS AND WATERSHED DEPARTMENT IS NOT EVEN ADDRESSED IN THIS RESOLUTION.

THERE'S NO PUBLIC OVERSIGHT, THERE'S MICHONNE AND THEY OWN THE PROPERTY AND REALLY ARE QUITE HEAVY HANDED IN THEIR APPROACH WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND GO ON THEIR WORD WITH THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT WAS AT HANDSHAKE OR WORSHIP AGREEMENT OR AN ADOPT A CREEK, ADOPT A PARK, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WE'VE DONE AND BOTH CARD AND WATERSHED ARE ACTIVELY SEEKING, UNDO WHAT WE'VE DONE AS A COMMUNITY.

AND I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO PROTECT MY COMMUNITY AND OTHER COMMUNITIES FROM HAVING THIS HAPPEN REGULARLY.

IT'S HEARTBREAKING.

WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT RESOLUTION WAS DIRECTED TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT THAT RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY CAME FROM COUNCIL.

I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT, UM, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, I, I, IT, IT SADDENS ME TO HEAR THAT YOU THINK THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS ACTIVELY WORKING TO, UM, AGAINST YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND PERHAPS WE NEED TO TAKE THIS OFFLINE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO, UM, HOW TO NOT HAVE YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITY FEEL THAT WAY, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT AT ALL OUR INTENTION, NOT WHY I'M UP FOR IT.

YOU KNOW, I, I LOVE PARKS, GREEN SPACES, TRAILS, AND THE, UM, SILOED WAY THAT OUR CITY HAS PUT SOME OF THE GREEN SPACES HERE.

SOME CUTS HERE, THIS CAN BE DONE.

THIS CAN'T BE DONE.

UM, REALLY LEADS OUT, UM, UNDER RESOURCED LOW-INCOME COMMUNITIES MORE THAN ANYBODY, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE, WE'RE IN AN UNDER-RESOURCED COMMUNITY.

AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT AN UNDER-RESOURCED COMMUNITY IS, IT'S WHERE YOUR TITLE ONE SCHOOLS ARE.

THOSE ARE UNDER-RESOURCED COMMUNITIES AND THEY DESERVE PARTNERS WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE WEALTHIER AND WHO CAN, UM, HELP THEM ALONG.

BUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS OF COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS IS VERY TOUGH ENTRY LEVEL FOR YOUR REGULAR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN BOSTON.

WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND SEE IF WE CAN'T REVIEW OUR PROCESS AND MAKE, IT'S NOT OUR, AGAIN, PARTNERSHIP PATHWAYS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR EVERYBODY.

SO WE'LL NEED TO LOOK AT THAT CHRISTINA AND I COULD LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HOW TO MAKE IT LESS ARDUOUS BUDDY, TO ENTER INTO THE RELATIONSHIP.

WHAT DO YOU SAY MOST SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT, UM, PARTNERSHIPS, PARTNERSHIP, B BEING NONPROFIT PARTNERS.

UM, WHAT MY LUCA, NOTHING.

DO YOU HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS? UM, A COUPLE OF SPECIFIC TO THE PRESENTATION FROM LAST MONTH, AND THEN A COUPLE OF OTHER SORT OF BROADER QUESTIONS YOU HAD DESCRIBED IN THE PRESENTATION, KIND OF FOUR CATEGORIES, UM, A, B, C, AND D, UM, ARE CONFIGURATIONS, UM, PARTNERSHIP, A BEING PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WHERE THEY'RE DOING LIKE MAINTENANCE AND OWNERSHIP, THE REAL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE BIGGEST CATEGORY, THE,

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UM, AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAVE, UM, OR COULD PROVIDE A LIST TO THE BOARD OF, OF ALL OF THE EXISTING PARTNERSHIPS IN WHICH CATEGORY THEY COME UNDER.

I WAS TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THE ONES I KNOW OF AND WHAT I THINK THEY WOULD BE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE, UM, TO SEE THEM DESIGNATED UNDER THESE DIFFERENT, UM, CONFIGURATIONS.

HOW CHRISTINA AND I CAN WORK ON THAT AND GET THAT TO YOU.

UM, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S PROBABLY WORTH OUR TIME TO NAME EVERY SINGLE ONE ON THIS PARTICULAR, BUT ABSOLUTELY WE CAN SEND THAT TO THE ENTIRE BOARD.

SO YOU COULD GET AN EYE, YOU COULD GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHO THE PARTNERS ARE AND WHAT CATEGORY THEY FIT IN.

AND SO I THINK IT'S INTERESTING, UM, PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BOARD MEMBER MASON MURPHY WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW IT CAN BE CHALLENGING AS A, REALLY AS A SMALL, AS A NEIGHBORHOOD WANTING TO DO, YOU KNOW, A REAL LOCAL LOCALIZED PARTNERSHIP, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, I ASSUME AN ALL VOLUNTEER GROUP.

I'M MY, MY, UH, MY, MY QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS REALLY KIND OF RELATE TO SOME OF THE, THE LARGER, UM, THE LARGER PARTNERSHIPS WHERE YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, BIGGER GROUPS WITH STAFF RAISING A LOT OF MONEY.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, ONE THING YOU TALKED ABOUT WAS TRANS TRANS FROM A TRANSPARENCY PERSPECTIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT ALL NONPROFITS.

I, I KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO, BUT I DO KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU, MOST FIVE OH ONE C3 IS HAVE A NINE 90, WHICH IS A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE NON-PROFIT TAX RETURN THAT YOU CAN KIND OF REVIEW WHERE THEIR MONEY'S COMING FROM AND HOW THEY'RE SPENDING IT.

I THINK YOU CAN ALSO NEST WITHIN SOME OF THESE LARGER FOUNDATIONS.

AND DO YOU KNOW IF ALL OF THE LARGER PARTNERSHIPS WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A NINE 90 OR SOME SORT OF PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION ABOUT THEIR FINANCES? SO, YES, UM, PARTNERSHIP, A CONFIGURATION THAT, UH, YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT WILL BE, UH, THAT IS A REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE AGREEMENT.

UM, THAT PART WILL HAVE WITH THAT NON-PROFIT, THAT THAT WILL DO COMPLETE A NINE 90 AND THAT WILL BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.

BUT FOR PROGRAMMING OR SORT OF LIKE CONSTRUCTING SOMETHING IN A PARK UNDER LEVEL FEE, YOU COULD BE A NONPROFIT, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY REPORTING ALL OF YOUR INCOME AND EXPENSES.

UH, CORRECT.

UM, PARTNERSHIP B OFTEN IS, UH, NOT, YOU KNOW, OFTEN CAN BE SMALLER NONPROFITS THAT HAVE JUST DOING, MAYBE DOING PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM MAY BE DOING TREE PLANTING.

SO IT'S, IT'S SUCH A RANGE THERE.

UM, NOW, IF A PARTNER WITHIN PARTNERSHIP B IS DOING A CON DOING A PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT, A GROW APART AND IMPROVEMENT AND ENTER INTO AN, A APART PLAN IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENT WOULD, UM, WITHIN THAT AGREEMENT, THERE WOULD BE A LEVEL OF CRITERIA AND REVIEW OF THEIR FINANCE, THEIR FINANCES, THEIR BOARD, UM, THE ORGANIZATIONAL DOCUMENTS.

SO THERE WOULD STILL BE AN AGREEMENT WHERE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN, BE TAKEN INTO PLACE.

AND IN PARTNERSHIP, B D YOU KNOW, WE TRIED TO D WE TRIED TO DIVIDE THESE INTO LEVELS THAT MADE A LOT OF SENSE, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME PARTNERSHIP B PARTNERS THAT ARE SUBSTANTIAL, RIGHT? SO THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE WAY THAT WE WRITE THE AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S TRANSPARENCY.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT CAN KIND OF GET INTO THE PARTNERSHIP B GROUP, BUT DEPENDING UPON, UM, THEIR CAPACITY, UM, OUR RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THEM OVER TIME AND THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT AND WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING, WE'RE VERY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE TRANSPARENCY.

SO, UM, I, I THINK THAT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY FLEXIBILITY IN HOW WE WRITE THE AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE OR IS READILY AVAILABLE.

SO JUST BY WAY, THERE'S, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UM, THE AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION, RIGHT? A SUBSTANTIAL PARTNER THAT WOULD FIT INTO PARTNERSHIP B BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OTHER THAN THE ZILKER TRAINING, WHICH THEY HAVE A VERY, THEY'LL HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC AGREEMENT FOR, AND A, UM, A NONPROFIT PARTNER THAT, UM, PROVIDES, UH, EXERCISE PROGRAMMING IN THE, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE RECREATION CENTERS, FREE OF CHARGE.

SO THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE THERE, BUT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE TRANSPARENCY.

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AND IT'S GREAT.

IT'S THERE, THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION.

I JUST THINK WHEN YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE FUNDRAISING BASED ON SOMETHING THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN A PUBLIC PARK, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME WAY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE, THE INCOME AND THE EXPENSES ARE AND UNDERSTAND THE WAY THAT FUNDRAISING IS BEING USED.

IN ADDITION TO JUST WHAT'S THE OUTCOME, DO THEY GET THE JOB DONE? THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO, UM, I WANTED TO ASK ALSO YOU TYPED IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT GOING TO VISIT WITH SOME OTHER CITIES, UM, MAYBE HOUSTON AND SAN ANTONIO, AND MAYBE EVEN NEW YORK CITY.

I'M NOT SURE THE CENTRAL PARK CONSERVANCY.

UM, AND LIKE I WAS, I WAS KIND OF WONDERING WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU HEARD FROM THEM THAT, WHERE YOU THOUGHT, OH, WE SHOULD DO THIS DIFFERENTLY.

I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT, WERE THERE ANY THINGS WHERE SOMETHING DIDN'T WORK OUT AND YOU THOUGHT WE NEED TO STRUCTURE OURS DIFFERENTLY.

AND I GUESS ALONG WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ANY, UM, ARE THERE ANY DOWNSIDES THAT YOU SEE TO THESE THAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING? UM, SO TO SPEAK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT WHEN THE, IN THE OTHER, UH, CITIES, SO TEXAS IN TEXAS WAS HOUSTON, UH, SEVERAL OF THE NON DIFFERENT CONSERVANCIES THAT ARE WITHIN HOUSTON AND THEN SAN ANTONIO.

UM, I THINK OBVIOUSLY AUSTIN IS UNIQUE.

ALL OF EVERY CITY IS UNIQUE.

SO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT, UM, MAYBE A HOUSTON OR A DALLAS HAS THAT, UH, WOULDN'T NECESSARILY ALIGN WITH, UH, AUSTIN, UM, THAT WAS DEFINITELY TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND, AND IS LARGELY WHY THESE PATHWAYS WERE DEVELOPED, UH, BECAUSE, UM, WE WANTED FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WE KNOW THAT HAVE A VERY CLEAR, UM, PUBLIC, UH, ENGAGE.

IT ALLOWS FOR A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT AND TRANSPARENCY WAS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND THAT'S WHY THOSE, THOSE CLICKER LEVELS WERE IMPORTANT TO US.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN EVERY CITY, BUT WE FELT THAT, UH, THAT WAS REALLY NEEDED AND ASKED IN FOR AUSTIN.

UM, THIS WAS ALSO A RECOMMENDATION THROUGH THE LONG RANGE PLAN AS WELL.

THIS WAS A CLEAR RECOMMENDATION OF HAVING, YOU KNOW, FORMALIZING THE PARTNERSHIPS, UM, AND THEN CREATING SOME KIND OF LEVELS OF PARTNERSHIP.

UM, SO, SO JUST TO, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T, I CAN'T REMEMBER ANY IN PARTICULAR, BUT IT WAS JUST THAT THERE WAS DEFINITELY THAT WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THAT EVERY CITY IS DIFFERENT.

IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, I, I DO THINK THAT, UM, I THINK THAT SOME CITIES HAVE MORE LIBERAL NAMING RIGHTS THAN WE ARE WILLING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

I THINK THAT, UM, I THINK THAT SOME CITIES WILL, UM, PREDICATE, UM, I THINK THAT THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE A PATHWAY, RIGHT.

SO THEY'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT THE PATHWAYS AND BUILDING CAPACITY AMONGST SMALLER ENTITIES.

THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT CULTIVATING RELATIONSHIPS WITH BIG PARTNERS, WITH BIG FUNDRAISERS AND WITH BIG MONEY.

WHEREAS I'M A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THOSE CITIES DON'T HAVE VOLUNTEER GROUPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WE WERE VERY INTENTIONAL IN MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A CHAFF WAY AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THE CAPACITY WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT EQUITY.

AND I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN IN SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT WE'VE, UM, THAT WE ENCOUNTERED.

WHAT OUR EXPERIENCES CITYWIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE MAIN THING.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

AND WE DO NEED TO, UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WRAP THIS UP FAIRLY SOON.

SO CERTAIN IF FEW REALLY, REALLY QUICKLY, IF YOU HAD ONE MORE AND THEN HOW DOES SAY, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE DISCUSSION WITHOUT SAYING LIKE, YOU KNOW, OVERALL ISSUES.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF BENEFITS TO BE HAD, LIKE THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

I DON'T HOW WE EVALUATE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE SPENDING, IF YOU HAVE A FOUNDATIONS BEING $15 MILLION TO BUILD A REALLY NICE PARK FACILITY AND OPERATE IT.

UM, AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT YOUR, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE NOT SPENDING THOSE TAX DOLLARS, BUT WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY WAYS.

AND THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT EQUITABLY HOW YOUR RESOURCES ARE SPENT ACROSS THE CITY.

AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS NOT JUST HOW YOU'RE TALKING TO LEARN FROM SPENT, BUT LIKE, WHAT IS PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE IN THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY FROM A PARK EXPERIENCE PERSPECTIVE AND THE SOCIOECONOMIC, I GUESS I JUST HAVE CONCERNS WHEN YOU END UP WITH FOUNDATIONS RAISING MONEY TO BUILD ELABORATE FACILITIES IN CERTAIN PARTS OF TOWN AND NOT OTHERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE DATA MAY OR MAY NOT BEAR OUT THAT THAT'S EFFECT YOU GET, BUT I JUST HOPE THAT WE, WE, WE LEARN, WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM,

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I ALSO JUST THINK THAT THE TRANSPARENCY ISSUES NEED TO, IT'S NOT JUST IN FINANCES, BUT IN TERMS OF USERS AND WHO THEY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCE, THAT THOSE, YEAH.

I MARKED THE JOSIE, MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, WE COULD MAYBE DIVE INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE AND GET SOME MORE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEE AND THEN, AND MAYBE COME BACK TO THE BOARD AT LARGE, EXCUSE ME, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMITTEE WERE WILLING TO LOOK AT.

OKAY, EXACTLY.

I'M GOING TO, UM, I KNOW I'M GOING TO SAY ONE QUICK THING AND THEN WE NEED TO REALLY WRAP THE TUB.

I JUST WANTED TO, UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THESE PARTNERSHIPS ARE PROBABLY NECESSARY.

WE CAN'T SEEM TO EVER GET FUNDING.

AND SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, I'VE SAID THIS SO MANY TIMES THAT EVERY ISSUE IS BECAUSE OF LACK OF FUNDING.

AND I KNOW THAT THESE CAN BE HELPFUL IN THAT REGARD, BUT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A RELATIONSHIP WHERE IT'S THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BENEFIT THE PUBLIC.

AND I THINK THERE IS FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT THEY DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.

ALSO WITH THIS EQUITY ISSUE.

I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEY DO, YOU DON'T SEE PEOPLE RUSHING UP WALTER ILAN WITH THAT ELABORATE MASTER PLAN, OR REALLY CONSERVANCY OVER THERE AND THAT PART OF AUSTIN, AND YOU CAN SEE, THEY CAN GO, YOU KNOW, JUST CRAZY OVER IN CERTAIN OTHER PARKS.

AND, UH, THE MORE FLOW IMPORTANT TO AUSTIN AND MAYBE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT THAT.

THEY NEED TO MAYBE RAISE SOME MONEY THAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE TO SOME OF THE PARKS THAT, THAT IT, AND, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO, WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS FROM POLITICAL LENS.

AND SO THIS CONVERSATION, MAYBE WE CAN FOLLOW IT UP IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S MORE TO BE ASKED ABOUT THAT.

AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS, AND I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

THANK YOU GUYS.

I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

WANT TO JUST REALLY JUST DO THE HIGHLIGHTS, MAYBE DIRECTOR MA NEARLY OF YOUR REPORT, AND THEN WE CAN WRAP IT UP.

SO I GUESS WE CAN JUST GO ON AND IT'S REALLY IT'S TIME FOR, UM, IF YOU

[C. DIRECTOR’S REPORT ON PROGRAM AND PROJECT UPDATES AND EVENTS]

YEP.

SO I'M NOT GONNA, I'M GONNA LET YOU BE THE REPORT YOURSELF, BUT I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR RESPONSE AND OUR RECOVERY TO THE, UM, TO THE RECENT EVENTS.

SO DURING THE RESPONSE, WE STARTED OPENING COLD WEATHER SHELTERS ON, UH, ON FEBRUARY 13TH.

AND SO WE OPERATE 24 HOURS.

WE OPERATED WEATHER SHELTERS SPECIFICALLY FOR INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK.

UM, AND WE OPERATED FOUR OF THOSE SHELTERS, WHICH HAD VARIOUS ISSUES AND PROBLEMS WITH PLUMBING AND LEAKS AND NO POWER AND ALL THOSE THINGS, BUT WE WORKED THROUGH IT, BUT WE STILL HAD INDIVIDUALS STAYING OVERNIGHT AT THE NATURE AND SCIENCE CENTER TO TAKE CARE OF THE ANIMALS.

AND ALSO TO ENSURE THAT OUR SALAMANDERS, BECAUSE THEY ARE AN ENDANGERED SPECIES, THAT WE WERE CARING FOR THEM IN THE APPROPRIATE WAY AND THAT THEY NEVER WERE IN DANGER.

UM, WE HAD INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE TRANSPORTING AND I THINK YOU ALL REMEMBER HOW NOT SO NICE.

IT WAS ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT.

AND WE HAD INDIVIDUALS, UH, PHYSICALLY DRIVING AROUND TOWN AND HELPING INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, GET TRANSPORTED FROM THEM TO A SHELTER.

AND THEN WE HAD VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE DOING EMERGENCY WATER AND FACILITY REPAIRS WHEN THINGS WERE BUSTING DURING THE MIDDLE OF THAT STORM.

AND SO BY WAY OF EXAMPLE, UM, THERE WAS A SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED AT BIG STACEY PARK WHERE WATER WAS SHOOTING EVERYWHERE, AND OUR TEAM WENT RIGHT OUT INTO, YOU KNOW, TURN THE WATER OFF SO THAT WE WEREN'T WASTEFUL.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PARTICIPATING IN WATER DISTRIBUTION, UM, AT THE CITY-WIDE ECKERS, WE HAVE LOTS OF STAFF WHO ARE PART OF THESE TEAMS. WE'RE ALSO DOING SPECIFIC WELL CHECKS WHERE YOU GET A WHEELCHAIR FOR OVER A THOUSAND SENIORS.

SO TO THINGS THAT ARE PART OF OUR PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE DID FOOD AND WATER DISTRIBUTION, AND TWO, NOT ALL THOUSAND OF THEM, BUT TO APPROXIMATELY OVER 500 INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE, UM, WHO NEEDED WATER AND THEY ARE SENIOR CITIZENS AND AT THEIR HOMES, UM, WE WERE DOING CONDITIONS ASSESSMENTS FOR ALL OF OUR PARKS AND FACILITIES.

AND SO WE'RE FINDING OUT WHAT KIND OF CONDITION THAT THEY'RE IN.

I SENT YOU AN EMAIL EARLIER TODAY THAT TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR POOLS AND WHAT CONDITION THAT THEY'RE IN.

UM, WITHOUT GOING TOO, INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, WE'RE NOT FINISHED WITH OUR ASSESSMENTS AND THERE'S PROBABLY WELL OVER.

UM, I'M GOING TO ESTIMATE AT LEAST A MILLION DOLLARS OF, OF REPAIRS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE BECAUSE OF ROOTS OR BROKEN PIPES OR FLOODING OR VANDALISM OR DAMAGE THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.

BUT, UM, WE'LL GIVE YOU MORE OF THAT INFORMATION WHEN WE'RE FINISHED WITH THE ASSESSMENT.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW HOW DEDICATED OUR TEAM HAS BEEN, UM, DURING THIS, AND THEN, UM, HOW, UM, THEY CONTINUE TO BE DEDICATED.

AND I WANTED TO ANSWER THAT ZILKER PARK, VISION PLANS, UH, QUESTION.

SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SURVEY OUT, I THINK IT MAY HAVE CLOSED BY NOW, BUT I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE WEBSITE, UM, AND PLEASE KNOW THAT, UH, FEBRUARY, UH, WE SIGNED THE CONTRACT FEBRUARY 3RD, THE FIND THE

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FINAL CONTRACT WITH THE CONTRACTING COMPANY.

CHRISTINE, ARE YOU STILL ON? AND CAN YOU READ, TELL ME THE NAME OF THE COMPANY? CAUSE I ALWAYS FORGET, OH, WELL, I'LL GET IT TO YOU.

WE SIGNED THE CONTRACT ON FEBRUARY 3RD ON MARCH 3RD, WE HAVE A TECHNICAL ADVISORY GROUP MEETING AND THEN WE'LL BE LAUNCHING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN APRIL AND MAY.

AND THE LAST THING THAT I WANTED YOU TO KNOW IS THAT OUR TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK, OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM TO ALSO MAN, THAT EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER AND DO EMERGENCY OPERATIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

SO I PROVIDE THAT.

I PUT THAT AS A LITTLE ASIDE, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THE WEATHER CAME IN AND NOW I'LL BE HAPPY TO LISTEN TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT MAYBE OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT MEETING.

WELL, THANK YOU.

AND I, YOU KNOW, I HOPE EVERYBODY STAYS SAFE AND AS WARM AS THEY COULD GET, IT WAS REALLY AN AWESOME WEEK.

SO THANKS.

THANKS FOR ALL.

WHAT THE STAFF DOES.

YOU GUYS ALWAYS DO GO WAY BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY.

BOARD

[D. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

MEMBER.

MORGAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I THINK THIS IS MY LAST MEETING.

OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

WELL, I WILL NOT BE THE SAME WITHOUT YOU.

WE, WE WILL.

WELL, I HAVE ENJOYED, I HAVE ENJOYED BEING ON THE BOARD AND UH, I HOPE I GET SOME CONTRIBUTIONS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THINGS UNFOLD AS, AS YOU ALL MOVE FORWARD.

WELL, WE ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE ALL YOU DID.

GO AHEAD.

I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO REALLY MISS YOU, FRED.

WE WILL NOW TEST THE FRAUD.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, FRED, FOR ALL YOUR COMMITMENT AND ALL YOUR, ALL THAT YOU DID FOR THE BOARD, YOU WERE, YOU WERE WONDERFUL.

THE ONE, IT WILL BE DIFFERENT.

IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHO THIS IS.

SIX POINTS, SO, OKAY.

SO, UM, BOARD MEMBER LIQUID, ANYTHING, UH, DON? YES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS BOARD.

UH, THIS MAY ALSO BE MY LAST MEETING.

UM, COMMITTED TO STAY ON UNTIL A REPLACEMENT IS FOUND.

UM, BUT I ENJOYED WORKING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE PROFESSIONALISM OF EVERYONE ON BOARD AND, AND OF MY PEERS ON THIS BOARD.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I'M SURE WE'LL CROSS PATHS.

WOW.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.

I DIDN'T REALLY, I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO BE STEPPING OFF, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS GOING TO BE SO SOON.

SO ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE, IT'S REALLY, WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU TOO.

SO ARE YOU STICKING AROUND BOARD, MISS MEMBER BASED MURPHY AS I KNOW.

AND DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE NEXT MEETING? NO.

BOARD MEMBER TAYLOR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO.

I JUST WANT TO SAY GOODBYE TO HER FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS WHO WON'T BE JOINING US AGAIN, AND I'VE ENJOYED SERVING WITH YOU.

I JUST WISH WE COULD BE IN PERSON, UM, TO SAY A FORMAL GOODBYE.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING THE LIVELY DISCUSSION, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

AND I ALSO JUST WANT TO THANK THE BOARD, EXCUSE ME, THE STAFF, UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN STAFF, JUST FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND HAVING TO PIVOT FROM ONE CRISIS TO ANOTHER THIS YEAR.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT AND JUST KNOW THAT WE SEE YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOU.

UM, WE'RE MEMBER CON SEIBEL.

WELL, I THINK THAT THAT WORD, REMEMBER CLEO SAID IT VERY WELL.

I'M GOING TO REALLY MISS FRED AND FRANCOISE.

I HAVE JUST ENJOYED IT VERY MUCH AND I'M SORRY TO SEE WHERE YOU GO AND I'M SORRY, WE DON'T GET A PARTY TONIGHT.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE NEXT MEETING, SO THANK YOU.

AND LIKEWISE, UM, DIRECTOR MCNEELY.

I, I SEE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING AND, AND, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT THE WHOLE STAFF IS PUTTING IN.