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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:06]

2021 BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING TO ORDER.

UM, THE TIME IS FIVE 32.

THERE IS A CORUM PRESENT.

UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND BEFORE WE DO THE ROLL CALL, I JUST WANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT, UH, BECAUSE OF OUR ONE VACANCY, UH, WE HAVE, UH, 10 PEOPLE.

UM, SO THE VOTES FOR THE SUPER MAJORITY WILL BE EIGHT OUT OF 10.

AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, OUT OF COROLLA, UH, IS, UH, ABSENT TONIGHT AND KELLY BLOOM IS FILLING IN FOR HER.

AND, UH, SO THANK YOU KELLY FOR DOING THAT.

AND THEN, UM, DONNIE HAMILTON, OUR OTHER ALTERNATE WILL BE FILLING IN FOR MELISSA ON ONE OF THE CASES LATER, UH, THIS EVENING.

SO THANK YOU.

UH, MR. HAMILTON ALSO FOR BEING AVAILABLE, UH, HOPE EVERYBODY WAS ABLE TO ENDURE OUR WINTER ARCTIC BLAST WITHOUT TOO MUCH, UM, PROBLEMS. SO ANYWAY, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THE ROLL CALL, BROOKE.

JESSICA COHEN.

YEAH.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE, DON LAYTON BURWELL HERE, ROM MCDANIEL HERE.

THANK YOU.

DARRYL PRUITT HERE.

VERONICA RIVERA.

UH, JASMINE SMITH.

SHE HAS BEEN SO OKAY.

MICHAEL BOND, OLIN HERE AND KELLY BLOOM CURE.

RIGHT.

AND DONNY HAMILTON.

YOU WERE HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

CAN I ASK A ELENA QUESTION REAL QUICK, SHORTLY THE APPOINTMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN THEIR LAST MEETING? UH YASMIN'S REPLACEMENT THOMAS WAS ON THAT, WOULD HE BE, SHE STARTS MARCH 1ST, TECHNICALLY UNDER OUR BYLAWS, RIGHT? YES.

BUT IF HE HASN'T COMPLETED THE TRAINING, NO, HE'S NOT.

OKAY.

READY TO START UNTIL TRAINING HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

OKAY.

UH, ONE OTHER THING REAL QUICKLY, UH, THAT I WANTED TO, TO, UH, UM, MENTION, UM, IS, UM, UH, SHOUT OUT TO DIANA RAMIREZ.

SHE IS OUR LIAISON WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND, UH, UM, SHE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS, UH, LOOKED AT THE AGENDA, HOPEFULLY YOU DID, BUT, UH, SHE HAS WORKED WITH ME OVER THE PAST MONTH TO REVAMP THE FORMATTING OF THAT AND, UH, UH, DID A GREAT JOB.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE DIANA SHE'S OFTEN THE, UH, BEHIND THE SCENES HERO ON THIS.

SO, UH, UH, ANYWAY, UH, SHOUT OUT TO HER.

UM, OKAY.

UM, SO, UM, WE, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, WE ARE STILL DOING, UM, THE REMOTE MEETINGS, UH, THAT MAY CHANGE AS WE MOVE INTO THE YEAR AS VACCINES AND STUFF HAPPENED.

YEAH, BROOKE, IT WAS YASMIN SMITH THINKING THAT SHE DIDN'T NEED TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

UH, ELAINE IS ISN'T IT CORRECT? THAT SHE WILL BE HERE? UM, SHE'S SUPPOSED TO, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO FILL IN UNTIL WE TOLD HER OTHERWISE HER REPLACEMENT WAS, UM, WELL, TILL SHE WAS REPLACED, BUT WITH THAT TRAINING NOT BEING DONE, SHE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.

UM, I DID REACH OUT TO HER AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM HER, SO I'M NOT SURE.

OKAY.

UM, AND, UH, AGAIN, IF WE HAVE AN ABSENCE, CAN, CAN, IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU CAN MAYBE REACH OUT TO HER ELAINE IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES? AND YEAH, I MEAN, I REACHED OUT TO HER, UH, FRIDAY AND I REACHED OUT TO HER AGAIN THIS MORNING AND I HAVEN'T HEARD NO, NO CONFIRMATION.

OKAY.

YEAH.

MAYBE IF YOU CAN CALL HER OFFLINE HERE, UH, BECAUSE, UH, IF, IF SHE IS NOT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE, THEN WE CAN GET DONNY TO FILL IN FOR HER, UM, TONIGHT, UH, AND LESS, UNLESS SHE IS SEEING THIS, THAT SHE HAS ACTUALLY, UH, RESIGNED.

RIGHT.

THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT DYNAMIC BECAUSE THAT CHANGES THE NUMBER OF BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE.

YEAH.

SO, UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TRY TO REACH OUT TO HER.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

VERY GOOD.

JUST SO THAT WE CAN CLARIFY IT AND THANKS

[00:05:01]

FOR THAT, BROOKE, BECAUSE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE THAT WE KNOW, UH, WHAT OUR VOTING, UM, YES.

SO ANYWAY, UH, SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS.

SO IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE MORE CUMBERSOME TO DO THIS ONLINE.

UM, BUT, UM, TO THAT END, UH, WE WILL HAVE THE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION AND SUPPORT, UH, TO SPEAK AT THE FRONT OF THE MEETING AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

UM, AND, UH, WE WILL MOVE INTO THAT SECTION HERE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.

UM, AND THEN, UM, THE, UH, THERE WILL BE ONE SPEAKER FOR, UH, EACH OF THE CASES THEY WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

UH, AND THEN THERE IS A SECONDARY LIST OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP PREVIOUSLY, UM, THAT, UH, IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, FOR SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE MAIN APPLICANT, WE CAN CALL FORTH, UM, THOSE, UH, OTHER PEOPLE, UM, BUT THAT'S AT OUR DISCRETION.

UM, THEY DON'T AUTOMATICALLY SPEAK.

UM, SO, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE GIVING TESTIMONY TONIGHT, UH, THAT ARE ON THE PHONE WAITING IN THE WINGS, UM, WE, UH, TYPICALLY HAD A, UH, A, UH, AN OATH THAT IS WARM.

UM, AND SO, UM, IF YOU WERE GIVING TESTIMONY TONIGHT, UH, WE WILL ASSUME THAT YOU SOLIDLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU GIVE TONIGHT WILL BE TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, IF YOU CAN NOT, UM, AGREE TO THAT STATEMENT, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU NOT GIVE TESTIMONY TO NOT.

UM, SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S THAT, UM, LET ME LOOK AND SEE, OKAY, SO WE WILL, UH, MOVE ON

[A-1 Staff requests approval February 8, 2021 draft minutes]

TO, UM, UH, ITEM, UM, A ONE, UM, THIS IS, UM, APPROVAL OF THE FEBRUARY 8TH, 2021 DRAFT MINUTES.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? OKAY, MELISSA.

AND SECOND BY, UH, I HAVE, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

IT'S JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

ON THE MINUTES ON ITEM G THREE, WHERE WE WERE DOING THE SETBACK ALONG THE CANAL, UM, IT SAYS IT'S THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE CANAL, BUT I WAS THINKING THAT WE WERE SAYING 17 FEET AT THE HOUSE ON ENVELOPE ONLY.

AM I WRONG? AND THAT IT WOULD THEN, UH, GO BACK TO THE 25, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

I THINK THEY NEED IT FOR THE DRIVEWAY AS WELL.

I THOUGHT DRIVERS COULD BE IN THE SETBACK.

I'M NOT POSITIVE OF THAT.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, THOUGHT WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT IT WOULD BE THE HOUSE ENVELOPE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MELISSA AND A SECOND BY JESSICA.

UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL ON THAT.

BROOKE BAILEY.

YES.

JESSICA COHEN.

YES.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

ON LEIGHTON BURWELL.

YES.

RON MCDANIEL.

OKAY.

DID WE LOSE WRONG? I DON'T SEE HIM ON MY SCREEN HERE.

UH, DARRYL PRUITT? YES.

VERONICA RIVERA.

YES.

OKAY.

UH, YASMIN SMITH IS NOT HERE.

WE'RE STILL WAITING TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.

MICHAEL VON OLIN? YES.

OKAY.

AND KELLY BLOOM? YES.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

UM, AND VERONICA, THANK YOU FOR, UH, UH, CONTINUING TO DO YOUR ROLE UNTIL WE CAN FIND A REPLACEMENT.

THAT'S REALLY, UH, HELPFUL.

UH, I SEE YOUR HAND UP.

UH, ELAINE, DID YOU GET AHOLD OF YOUR HUSBAND? SHE MAY BE IN THE MIDST OF DOING IT.

NO, I HAVE NOT.

SHE SAID SHE'S BOOKED ALREADY.

SHE'S ALREADY GOT ANOTHER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORT.

SHE'S UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HER TERM ENDED IN FEBRUARY.

SO SHE DIDN'T THINK SHE HAD TO FILL IN.

UM, NO, WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY WOULD BE FILLING IN Y'ALL WOULD BE FILLING IN UNTIL Y'ALL'S REPLACEMENTS WERE READY.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE DONNIE FILL FOR TONIGHT CHAIR, IF HE'S UP FOR IT.

I WOULD AGREE.

ARE YOU WILLING TO DO THAT MR. HAMILTON BEFORE WE DO THAT? SO IF SHE IS ACTUALLY RESIGNED AND IS NOT JUST THEN WE NOW ARE A BOARD OF ONLY NINE, IS THAT RIGHT? I JUST CAN'T SAY RESIGNED THOUGH, BECAUSE HER LAST SENTENCE SPECIFICALLY SAYS, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED RESIGNING.

MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU CAN ASK LEGAL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

LEE, CAN YOU,

[00:10:01]

I, UH, I BELIEVE THAT I THINK IT'S EASY TO BRING THE NUMBER DOWN TO NINE.

OKAY.

WELL, UM, WE'VE DONE PRE THE EIGHT BREAKING UP.

I AM JUST FALLING.

UH, I MAY, I MAY NEED TO DIAL IN, SORRY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S A VACANCY PER SE, UH, BECAUSE THE CH UH, USUALLY, UM, UH, BOARD MEMBERS WHO, UH, TERMS TERMINATE, UM, DO SHOW UP FOR, UH, A MEETING OR TWO AFTER THEIR, THEIR TERMINATION IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THE OTHER PERSON, FOR THE OTHER PERSON TO COME IN.

SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS IS A VACANCY OR SAY, I THINK YOU CAN STILL GO WITH THE, UM, WITH THE 10 PERSON DENOMINATOR ON ALL OF YOUR VOTES FOR TONIGHT, AND YOU NEED YOUR OWN VIEW.

PROBABLY HELPFUL IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.

SO, SO THEN MR. HAMILTON SHOULD BE ABLE TO THEN FILL IN FOR HER ON, AS A, AS A REGULAR BOARD MEMBER TONIGHT.

SO THEN WE WILL NOT HAVE ANYONE, UM, ON, UH, THE D TWO CASES THAT MELISSA YES.

THAT YOU'RE ABSTAINING FROM.

SO WE WILL BE SHORT ONE BOARD MEMBER ON THAT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

SO MR. HAMILTON, ARE YOU WILLING TO DO THAT FOR US TONIGHT? EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT WILL GIVE US STILL ARE, UM, A TALLY OF 10 PEOPLE, WHICH AGAIN, WILL, UH, FOR THE SUPER MAJORITY VOTES WILL, WILL BE, UH, A COUNT OF EIGHT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE 75%.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

SO THE, UM, DRAFT MINUTE WE SEE HERE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO

[B-1 Staff and Applicant requests for postponement and withdraw of items posted on this Agenda]

ON ITEM B WOOLEN, UH, ELAINE, UH, I SEE YOUR BACK, UH, ARE, ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS FOR POSTPONEMENTS OR WITHDRAWLS NONE.

OKAY.

AND THEN I WOULD ASK SPECIFICALLY ON THE CASE, THAT IS D TWO, WHICH IS ASSIGNED, UM, PREVIOUS POSTPONEMENTS, WHERE WE WILL BE ONE SHORT, IF THEY WANT TO CONSIDER POSTPONEMENT, UM, THEN THEY JUST NEED TO LET US KNOW ONCE WHEN WE GET TO THAT CASE.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE EASIEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT ONE MAJORITY.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

THOSE ARE SIMPLE MAJORITY CASES.

THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THE, THE BAR IS LOWER FOR THE, UM, FOR THE SIGN CASES.

OKAY.

UM, SO LET'S MOVE ON, UM, TO, UM, THE LIST THAT I HAVE HERE.

AND THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE ASKING TO SPEAK, UM, AGAIN, THE, AN OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT OF THE CASES.

THE FIRST ITEM

[E-1 C15-2021-0026 Matt Williams for Luis Zaragoza 4005 Sidehill Path (Part 2 of 2)]

IS ITEM E AS IN EDWARD E C 15 DAYS 20, UH, 21 DASH ZERO ZERO TWO SIX.

THE ADDRESS OF THE, UH, PROJECT IS, UH, HOLD ON.

THIS IS, UM, 2005 SIDE HILL PATH.

AND IT'S, UH, LARRY, UH, GOSSAMER.

UH, I HOPE I DIDN'T BUTCHER YOUR NAME TOO BADLY.

SO MR. GUZMAN, IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE, YOU'VE GOT THREE MINUTES AND I'LL HIT THE TIMER HERE, MR. CHAIR.

UH, THIS IS GARY'S HOUSE MERCK.

I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, THE REFERENCED ADDRESS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE REQUEST IS TO REDUCE THE MANDATORY SETBACK FROM TWENTY-FIVE FEET TO 15 FEET.

WHAT I DO NOT HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF, AND HAVEN'T BEEN INFORMED BY THE DEVELOPER IS WHAT STRUCTURE IS ENVISIONED TO BE LOCATED, UH, WITHIN THE 15 FOOT SETBACK.

I DON'T KNOW ITS A GATE, A FENCE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A PART OF THE PHYSICAL PROPERTY.

UH, I AM CURIOUS, UH,

[00:15:01]

TO JUST RECEIVE THE BENEFIT OF THOSE INSIGHTS SO THAT I CAN PROPERLY FORM AN OPINION, WHICH MAY, UH, IN ESSENCE ULTIMATELY, UH, BE, UH, SUPPORTIVE.

BUT I DO NOT KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE PROPOSED PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO FAVOR IT OR, OR NOT.

AND THEREFORE I'M A PUNK.

I HAVE TO BE REAL CLEAR.

THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT SHARED WITH ME OR MY FAMILY AND OF THE PLANS, THE DETAILS.

AND SO WE'RE AT A, WE'RE AT A LOSS WE'RE HANDICAPPED AND BEING ABLE TO PROPERLY RESPOND AND AGGRESS TO REQUEST.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, W WAS THERE ANY MORE THAT YOU WANTED TO, I, I WISH I COULD ADD MORE IF I KNEW MORE ABOUT IT, BUT I, I, I'M NOT IN POSITION TO ADD ANY MORE SHIRT UNTIL I RECEIVE THE, THE BASIC BACKGROUND THAT I'M INTERESTED IN.

OKAY.

AND THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE, UH, ONLINE, UM, IN OUR AGENDA, THE, UH, BACKUP INFORMATION AND THE, UH, PRESENTATION IS ONLINE.

SO YOU CAN GO IN AND, AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

UM, AND I'M SORRY THAT THE DEVELOPER DIDN'T REACH OUT TO YOU, UM, AS A COURTESY, BUT, UM, THAT, UM, UH, THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE AND WHAT I WILL SAY, AND, AND, UH, IS THAT, UH, IT IS, UH, AT MY RECOLLECTION AND I'M PULLING UP THE CASE RIGHT NOW IS, IS THAT THE, UH, THE HOUSE ITSELF, UM, WILL, UM, UH, IS AFFECTED BY THAT, THAT SETBACK.

SO IT IS A HOUSE THAT THEY ARE ASKING TO ALLOW TO ENCROACH, UM, INTO WHAT IS CURRENTLY THE FRONT YARD SET BACK AND BASICALLY SWITCHING THE, THE FRONT FROM SIDE YARD.

BUT I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE CASE, BUT THAT'S, THAT IS, UH, IT IS A NEW HOUSE THAT IS LOOKING FOR THAT VARIANCE.

IT SAYS THE SAME ORIENTATION AS THE HOUSE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY THERE.

AND IF YOU JUST GOOGLE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, AUSTIN, TEXAS, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE AS OUR AGENDA, AND THEN YOU COULD SEE WHAT LETTER NUMBER IT IS, AND YOU CAN CLICK ON IT AND IT'LL OPEN.

AND IT'LL GIVE YOU DETAILS ABOUT THE CASE.

UH, I, I, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT.

I'M WONDERING, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES, UH, IF, UH, THE BOARD WOULD FAVORABLY ENTERTAIN, DEFERRING THIS UNTIL NEXT MONTH SO THAT I MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROPERLY REVIEW, UH, THE, UH, WEBSITE, THE, AND, UH, HOPEFULLY BY THAT TIME, THE, UH, DEVELOPER WILL HAVE REACHED OUT, UH, TO ME, THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR PROPERTY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY SO THAT I MAY HAVE, UH, THE ABILITY TO GIVE A FAIR AND FULSOME, UH, STATEMENT, UM, UH, WITH REGARD TO THIS.

AND IT MAY BE THAT IT DOESN'T CAUSE, UH, MAY TO OPPOSE IT, BUT I AM NOT IN A POSITION TO SAY THAT AT THIS JUNCTURE.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE REQUESTS THERE, SO, UM, IS, UM, ANYONE ON THE BOARD, ONE TO ENTERTAIN THE MOTION? UH, OKAY.

UH, BROOKE, I SEE YOUR HAND UP.

YEAH.

I'D LIKE IT, APPARENTLY THEY HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS.

UM, THEY HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO THE PERSON RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

I THINK THAT THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE, UM, IN EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST, IF THEY REACHED OUT TO ALL OF THEIR NEIGHBORS AND INFORMED THEM OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY MIGHT HAVE LESS OPPOSITION THAN THEY DO CAUSE THEY HAVE A BIT OF OPPOSITION.

SO IS THAT A MOTION? I SAID, MOTION TO POSTPONE TO THE APRIL 4TH.

ADJUSTMENT THAT SHOW THE DATE.

IS THERE A SECOND? I SEE DARYL HERE.

HAND UP.

YES.

YES.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE BY BROOKE BAILEY AND THE SECOND BY DARYL PRUITT, UH, APRIL 12TH, APRIL 12TH.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL.

THIS IS TO POSTPONE.

YES.

SORRY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I'M SORRY.

JUST GO, GO AHEAD.

I REALLY WOULD PREFER NOT TO POSTPONE THIS, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT THERE WAS AN ERROR MADE ON BEHALF OF CITY STAFF.

THEY'VE ALREADY DEMOED THE PROPERTY AND THEY'RE JUST WAITING TO GET BEFORE US.

SO I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A THERE'S OPPOSITION, BUT I, I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD AT LEAST RECOGNIZE THAT MISTAKE WAS MADE ON THE PART OF CITY STAFF THEY HAD BEEN APPROVED ALREADY.

WELL, THE, THE, THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM THAT I SEE IS THAT THIS SETBACK LINE

[00:20:01]

IS ON THE PLAT.

THIS ISN'T SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY CLEAR, UH, AND, AND WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THE PAPERWORK WHEN THIS, WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS BOUGHT.

SO I PREFER THAT WE NOT GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OR PER-CASE HERE, UH, AND JUST CONSIDER THE POSTPONEMENT.

AND SO, UH, JESSICA, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT YOUR CONCERN IS TO DELAY THAT THIS WILL CAUSE IN THE BUILDING, UH, BASED ON THAT, MICHAEL, YOU HAVE SEE YOUR HAND UP MR. CHAIR, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THOUGH, HIS BOOK STATED IT'S CURRENT IT'S, UH, THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE GOING INTO CURRENT FOOT TRAFFIC, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT SAYS ON THE, BUT THE EXISTING HOUSE WAS THERE.

IT WAS ALREADY WITHIN THE SETBACK.

SO, AND AFTER REVIEWING THIS, I'M SUPPORTING JESSICA ON IT.

UH, I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UH, POSTPONE IT AS OF YET, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME VALID, UH, ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSED, REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED IT, OR THE BOARD MEMBERS MAY WANT TO HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION ABOUT, SO I'M HAPPY TO DEFER THE POSTPONEMENT UNTIL WE HEAR THE CASE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THE MOTION UNTIL YOU HEAR THE CASE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND WITHDRAW THAT THEN.

UH, LEE, DID I SEE YOUR HAND? I JUST WANTED TO READ IT RIGHT.

THAT WE NEEDED TO SPEAK JUST ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE, AS OPPOSED TO THE MERITS OF THE CASE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO, UM, UM, SO TO, TO THE, UH, UH, NEIGHBOR WHO CALLED IN AND AN OPPOSITION, WE WILL CONSIDER A POSTPONEMENT OF THIS.

AFTER WE'VE HEARD THE CASE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO, TO ACT ON THAT AT THAT POINT.

AND AGAIN, THAT INFORMATION IS, UH, IS ONLINE.

UM, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A FEW DAYS.

I KNOW.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH US.

UM, OKAY.

AND THEN THE OTHER, UH, PERSON THAT WE HAD, UM, THIS IS ON,

[F-5 C15-2021-0019 Lawrence Graham 5909 Bull Creek Road (Part 1 of 2)]

UH, ITEM F FIVE, UH, EPIS AND FRANK.

THIS IS C 15 DASH 2021 DASH ZERO ZERO ONE NINE, UH, 59 OH NINE BULL CREEK ROAD.

AND IT'S SOMEONE THAT WE KNOW IT'S, UH, MR. WILLIAM HODGE IS THE ARCHITECT CO UH, SPEAKING IN SUPPORT.

SO MR. HAHN, WELCOME BACK.

HI, MICHELLE, UH, UM, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I SIMPLY WANTED TO, TO, UH, JUST TO SAY A COUPLE WORDS ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT, UH, CLIENTS, LARRY GRAHAM, AND, UH, ANDREA GRISWOLD, UH, THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS IN, IN MY OPINION, IS A, A VERY MINIMAL, UM, IS A VERY MINIMAL VARIANCE.

UM, UH, THEIR DESIRE THEY'VE WRITTEN IN THEIR APPLICATION IS TO HAVE A HOUSE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR, UH, FOR MS GRISWOLD'S, UH, PARENTS, UH, TO, TO COME AND VISIT THEM.

UH, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE FRAIL AND ELDERLY, UM, IN THE DESIGN PROCESS FOR THE HOUSE.

UH, IT BECAME VERY APPARENT THAT WE, IN, IN THE DESIGN OF THE HOUSE THAT WE WANTED TO SEPARATE, UH, THE EXISTING HOUSE AND, UM, THIS NEW GUEST HOUSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

SO I SIMPLY WANTED TO, TO SIGN UP MOSTLY TO STATE THAT I WILL BE AVAILABLE WHEN, UH, MR. BRANDON GRISWOLD'S CASE IS HEARD AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

BUT ALSO JUST TO SAY THAT I, I BELIEVE WHEN I CONSULTED WITH, UH, WITH THE CLIENTS THAT THIS WAS A, A MINIMAL BARRIER, SO THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, SO, UM, FOLKS, JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SINCE WE ARE NOT HEARING THESE, WE'RE HEARING THESE FOLKS OUTSIDE OF THE REGULAR, UM, UM, LIST OF, OF CASES AS THEY COME UP, JUST KEEP THESE THINGS IN MIND WHEN WE GET TO THOSE CASES.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ALONG TO OUR, UM, UH, YOU SIGN CASES.

THE FIRST ITEM IS, UH, C1.

[C-1 C16-2021-0006 Stormi Wolf for Michael Harris 2101 Rio Grande Street]

UH, THIS IS C 16 DASH A TWO ZERO TWO ONE DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO SIX, STORMY WOLF FOR, UH, MICHAEL HARRIS AT, UH, 2101 REAL GRUNDY.

AND THIS IS, UM, A VARIANCE FROM THE ASSIGNED REGULATIONS.

AND WE HAVE, UH, IT SAYS, UH, JIM BECKETT IS THE PRIMARY SPEAKER ON THIS.

MR. BECKETT, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

OKAY.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES.

OKAY, COOL.

UM, OKAY.

UM, SO BASICALLY

[00:25:01]

WE'RE LOOKING TO JUST ADD SOME ILLUMINATION, ALL THE OTHER ASPECTS OF THE SCIENCE MEET THE CODE.

UM, PART OF IT IS A KIND OF A SAFETY WEIGHT BINDING, UH, ISSUE AS WELL.

IT'S VERY DIMLY LIT IT DOWN, SLIT DOWN THERE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AS PER THE PHOTOGRAPHS IN MY PRESENTATION, SO LIVE IS TO HELP FACILITATE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FINDING THEIR WAY AT NIGHT EASILY.

IT IS VERY DIMLY LIT.

UM, WE ARE USING LIKE A MILD, SUBTLE LIGHTING HALAL LIT EFFECT.

SO LET ME STOP YOU HERE JUST A SECOND.

SO WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS, BUT I'M NOT SEEING IT, UM, SO THAT THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THE TWO.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OR EVEN GO AHEAD.

UH, WE'RE WE'LL PUT, WE'RE PULLING UP YOUR PRESENTATION NOW.

YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT ONLINE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU GUYS HAVE THE PRESENTATION OPEN JUST A FEW SECONDS.

OKAY.

I'M GOING TO CLICK ON MINE.

YEAH.

IF I CLICK ON MINE, THEN YOU GUYS, AND I CAN'T SEE YOU GUYS ANYMORE.

I DON'T, YEAH, I CAN MINIMIZE THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

W WE, WE, WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP IT'S ON THE FIRST PAGE.

NOW YOU WILL SEE A DELAY IN WHAT YOU SEE.

WE ARE SEEING THE FIRST PAGE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

EXCELLENT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THERE'S OUR INTRODUCTION PAGE.

UM, BASICALLY WE HAVE, UH, THREE SIGNS WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, UM, UH, ON THE CORNER.

WE'RE DOING A BLADE SIGN, UM, AND WE'D ALL THE SQUARE FOOT SETBACK, UH, PROJECTIONS I'LL MEET THE CODE.

THE ONLY, UH, VARIANCE WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS DOING INTERNALLY ELIMINATE THEM.

AND WE'RE ALSO USING A VERY HALO LIT TYPE WEDDING, WHICH IS KIND OF PART OF THE, I THINK THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE HALAL IT.

SO WE'RE KIND OF KEEPING IT SUBTLE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE VERY LOUD LIGHTING AT ALL, BUT, UM, ESSENTIALLY A LOT OF IT IS TO HELP WITH WAYFINDING AT NIGHT.

IT IS PRETTY DARK DOWN THERE.

UM, MR. PECK, IF YOU WERE WANTING US TO SEE ANYTHING OTHER THAN SEEING, ARE THEY THE FIRST SHEET, THEN YOU NEED TO LET STAFF KNOW THAT TOO.

SCROLL THROUGH IT.

SO I'M SORRY.

SORRY GUYS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO PAGE TWO, PAGE TWO.

UM, LET'S SEE, UH, PAGE TWO, IF, LOOK TO ME THAT THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY THAT IT ILLUMINATION MAY BE APPROVED, UH, IN THE NEAR FUTURE ANYWAY, FOR THIS DISTRICT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT PAGE ONE IS THE WHO KNOWS SIGN REGULATION, THAT IT KNOWS THAT IT MAY BE APPROVED SHORTLY ANYWAY, AS A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE FOR THAT CODE.

UM, SO THAT'S THAT PAGE? THIS PAGE HERE IS JUST SHOWING THE NEIGHBOR SIGNS EVERYWHERE.

THIS IS EVERYBODY AROUND THEM.

UH, THEY ALL HAVE ILLUMINATED SIGNS.

I TRIED TO GO THROUGH THE DOCUMENTATION TO SEE IF THEY WERE APPROVED FOR A VARIANCE.

I TRIED TO THE SYSTEM, UM, THE C, BUT ALL NEIGHBORING PEOPLE DO HAVE ELIMINATED SIGNAGE AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.

AND AB MOVE UP THE PAGE, PLEASE.

NO, GO THE OTHER WAY.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE, OKAY, THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO IF YOU JUST SAY NEXT SLIDE, I'M HAPPY TO JUST ADVANCES AS WE GO.

UM, I'M ADVANCING THEM RIGHT NOW.

IS THAT OKAY? OR DO YOU GUYS WANT TO, I'M SORRY.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR PRESENTATION AND THE AB TECH GRACIOUSLY AND HELPING, HELPING US LOOK AT YOUR PRESENTATION AT THE SAME PACE YOU ARE.

SO WHEN YOU CHANGE YOUR PAGE, YOU, IF YOU COULD GIVE, GIVE HIM A CLUE, YOU'RE ADVANCING THAT WAY.

WE'LL BE IN THE SAME PLACE YOU ARE.

OH, OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY.

SO RIGHT NOW, COULD YOU HOLD ONE SECOND, MR. CHAIR, WE ALL HAVE THIS INFORMATION AND OUR PACKETS, WHICH WE SHOULD HAVE REVIEWED PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

AND IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE SEEING ON, ON, UH, THROUGH AVI, IF THERE IS NO REAL CONCERN FROM ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD BOARD, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

SO THAT WAS QUICK.

YEAH, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE.

I KNOW IT, IT, I THINK, I DON'T THINK IT'S AN UNREASONABLE ASK AND I THINK, UH, THE HALO, THE HAZEL, UH, LIGHTING IS MUCH MORE SUBTLE.

IT'S MUCH MORE,

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IT'S NOT QUITE IN YOUR FACE.

I THINK IT, IT FITS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MICHAEL VAN OLIN AND THE SECOND FLIGHT WAS THAT JESSICA.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SOUNDED LIKE YOU, BUT I COULDN'T SEE ANYBODY, SO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO IF WE CAN PULL THE PRESENTATION DOWN, UM, UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, UM, DO WE NEED TO CLOSE IT? YEAH, LET'S CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SORRY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NONE? UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THE FINDINGS.

THANK YOU.

THE BOARD MUST DETERMINE THE EXISTENCE OF SUFFICIENCY, OF, AND WEIGHT OF EVIDENCE SUPPORTING THE FINDINGS AS DESCRIBED BELOW THE APPLICANT CONTENDS THAT HIS ENTITLEMENT TO THE REQUESTED VARIANCE IS BASED ON THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS.

THE VARIANCE IS NECESSARY BECAUSE THE DISTRICT ENFORCEMENT OF THE ARTICLE PROHIBITS ANY REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SIGNS ON THE SITE.

CONSIDERING THE UNIQUE FEATURES OF THE SITES SUCH AS DEMENTIA, LANDSCAPING, OR TOPOGRAPHY.

AND CURRENTLY THIS CURRENTLY 21 RIO IS SURROUNDED BY ILLUMINATED SIGNAGE THAT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN GRANTED THROUGH VARIOUS PROCESSES OR PRIOR TO THE UNO IMPLEMENTATION.

IT ALSO APPEARS THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS SUBMITTED REQUESTS TO CODE, BE CHANGE TO A LAW FOR LED SIGNS.

AND 21 RIO IS VERY DARK AT NIGHT.

THE GRANTING OF THIS VARIANCE WILL NOT HAVE A SUBSTANTIALLY ADVERSE IMPACT UPON NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES BECAUSE MANY OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES HAVE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED SIGNAGE.

ALSO THE TYPE OF ELIMINATION THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING IS A LOW IMPACT HALO TYPE SIGN ILLUMINATION.

THEY ARE NOT REQUESTING ANY ADDITIONAL DEVIATIONS FROM THE SIGN CODE.

I SIGNED PROJECTION QUANTITIES, ET CETERA.

THE GRANTING OF THIS VARIANCE WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY CONFLICT WITH THE STATED PURPOSES OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE, BECAUSE THE REVERSE LIT ELIMINATION IS A LOW IMPACT TYPE OF LIGHTING AND WILL SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVE THE ABILITY OF THE COMPLEX TO BE FOUND AND RECOGNIZED.

AND FINALLY GRANTING A VARIANCE WOULD NOT PROVIDE THE APPLICANT WITH A SPECIAL PRIVILEGE, NOT ENJOYED BY OTHERS, SIMILARLY SITUATED OR POTENTIALLY SIMILARLY SITUATED BECAUSE ALLOWING ILLUMINATED SIGNAGE FOR 21 RIO WOULD PROVIDE, WOULD PROVIDE COMMENSURATE, READABILITY AND RECOGNITION AS SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WITH LIT SIGNS.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLE OF BROOKLYN.

YEAH.

JESSICA.

YES.

MELISSA HAWTHORNE.

YES.

UH, DON LEIGHTON BURWELL.

YES.

UH, RON MCDANIEL.

YES.

DARRELL PRUETT YES.

VERONICA RIVERA.

YES.

UM, YES.

OH, SORRY.

YES.

MS. SMITH IS NOT HERE.

UM, MICHAEL MANOLA YES.

KELLY BLOOM.

YES.

DONNIE HAMILTON.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

VERY GOOD.

YOU GOT YOUR VARIANT, SO CONGRATULATIONS.

EVERYBODY WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT,

[D-1 C16-2021-0001 Claudia Salguero for Kate Ontes 2402 Guadalupe Street]

MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, UH, IS, UM, D THESE ARE, UM, SIGN, UH, THESE WERE PREVIOUS POSTPONEMENTS ON, UH, SIGNAGE.

THIS IS A D AS IN DAVID ONE, UH, C 16 DASH 2021 DASH ZERO OH ZERO ZERO ONE.

THIS IS, UH, FLAVIA.

UH, UH, SAL, SORRY FOR, UH, KATIE ARTIS, UH, AT A 24 OH TWO GUADALUPE.

AND THIS IS A, UM, A REQUEST, A VARIANCE FROM THE SIGN ORDINANCE.

SO I HAVE, UH, MS. GUERRA, UH, AS THE, UM, MAIN SPEAKER AND YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

SO ONE OF THE COMMENTS, IT PREVIEWS MEETINGS, WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE ARTWORK, UH, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO OPTIONS TO, FOR, FOR THE BOARD TO SEE WHICH ONE IS MORE ACCEPTABLE FOR EVERYBODY.

WE THINK THAT IS, THIS IS A PHARMACY ELIMINATE.

THE SIGNS ARE VERY IMPORTANT, AND THEY ARE ESSENTIAL FOR THE BUSINESS TO BE VISIBLE.

I DIDN'T ANY TIME OF THE DAY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, GO ALL THE PAGE, THE ONE OF THE 12,

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THESE WAS THE PREVIOUS, THE PREVIOUS ARTWORK THAT WERE SUBMITTED.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON OVER THERE, BUT, UM, ON PAGE THE OTHER FOUR, THIS IS THE FIRST OPTION THAT WE, IF YOU WAIT A MINUTE FOR, UH, UH, YEAH, WE NEED TO GET AB STAFF TO GET TO THE PAGE OF THE PRESENTATION.

SO LET THEM KNOW WHICH PAGE YOU WANT TO GO TO AND WHEN YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ONE IN THE PRESENTATION, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME FENCING.

SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S THE CASE.

THERE'S ONLY ONE PAGE IN THE PRESENTATION.

THE OTHER IS THE OTHER BACKUP FROM THE PREVIOUS MONTH.

IT'S NOT A PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

SO IN THE, IN THE PAGES THAT YOU ARE VIEWING AT THIS MOMENT, THIS IS OPTION NUMBER TWO, THAT WE WOULD LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO REVIEW, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS WAY LESS ILLUMINATION IN THE BUILDINGS.

ALL OF THE SIGNS ARE WHERE BIRDS LEAVES.

WE TOOK ONE OF THE PROJECTED SIGNS OFF WHEN WHICH WAS RIGHT IN THE AGE OF THE BUILDINGS, UH, UM, ALL OTHER WELTS, ALL OVER THE WORLD FARGO SIGN, THERE WAS A PROJECTED SIGN THERE, AND WE TOOK IT OFF.

WE'RE GOING TO BE, UM, HAVE, UH, WHERE YOU'RE FACING THE EXISTING SIGNS SIGN THAT IT'S OVER, UH, UNDER BAR, THE VARSITY SIGNS AND THE, THE, THE WALL SIGNS ARE GOING TO BE, WE'RE ASKING TO BE ILLUMINATED.

THEY ARE REVERSELY.

THERE IS ONE PROJECTION SIGN, UM, HANGING OVER THE 24 THREE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE IT, THERE'S ALSO A PICTURE THAT IS, UM, BETWEEN THE THIRTIES AND THE FIFTIES, AND THIS WAS THEIR ORIGINAL, UM, THEIR ORIGINAL FORM OF THE KIND OF THING.

SO WE, THEIR CUSTOMERS, THE ONLY ONE TO RESTORE IT IN, THEY WERE LIKE FOR THE, UH, TANYA PETE TO BE THE WHITE USED TO BE, THEN YOU CAN SEE FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION, WE TOOK OFF A LOT OF, UH, ILLUMINATED ILLUMINATION IN THE, UH, , THE SIGN AND THE BUILDING ITSELF.

SO WE ARE ASKING THE BOARD TO CONSIDER THESE NEW, UM, ARTWORK THAT WE ARE SUBMITTING RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, SO IT WAS DIFFICULT, UH, BECAUSE THERE WAS ONLY ONE AS BROOKE POINTED OUT ONLY ONE, UM, THING IN THE PRESENTATION.

UM, SO, UH, WHEN SHE WAS REFERRING TO OTHER THINGS, IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO KNOW WHAT THE ASK WAS.

LET'S GO WITH, UH, UH, JESSICA THEN MELISSA, AND THEN MICHAEL, UM, WHEN I WAS LOOKING OVER THIS WEEKEND, IF RIGHT, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THEY'VE DROPPED BASICALLY EVERY ASK THAT YOU HAD WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ILLUMINATION REQUEST, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY JESSICA IN A SECOND BY MELISSA.

IS THAT CORRECT? AND, UM, UH, IT, CAN WE JUST, UH, MICHAEL, UH, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

MR. CHAIR, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, ACTUALLY THEY'VE MADE, THEY MADE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REQUESTS BECAUSE I'M, UH, IN OUR PACKET ON D ONE 13, THEY HAVE THEIR PROPOSED FOR ONE OF THEIR ASS.

AND THEN IF YOU GO BACK UP, UH, ANOTHER ONE, THEY HAVE ANOTHER PROPOSED ASS THAT HAS A LITTLE BIT LESS.

SO THERE'S TWO PROPOSED ASKS HERE, UM, AND WHERE I WAS GOING TO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT IF YOU GO IN OUR PACKET TO PAGE D DASH ONE 13, OKAY.

OR TWO ITEM.

YEAH.

THAT'S, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE, I THINK IT'S A PAGE FIVE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, THEY HAVE, THAT'S THE ONE THAT, THAT ON D ONE 13,

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THEY HAVE ALL THESE ASSETS THAT ARE LISTED THERE.

LAST TIME.

THIS CAME IN FRONT OF US AND BROOKE, I THINK YOU WERE, YOU'RE AGREEING WITH ME WITH SOME, YOU KNOW, THE, IT WAS A LITTLE, THAT WAS A LOT.

SO THIS REALLY NARROWED IT DOWN.

AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET THEM TO DO WAS TO CLARIFY WHAT WAS, WHAT AND INDICATE WHAT GOES, WHERE, AND I'M, UH, I'M STILL OKAY WITH WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH THAT, UM, AND PEOPLE LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE NOT ON, IF YOU'RE NOT ON FAMILIAR WITH WHERE I'M AT, I'M LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED SIGN, IT STAMPED.

UH, THE RED STAMP IS SLASH 13 AND WHERE I WAS LOOKING AT THOSE PROPOSED SIGNS AND WHAT THEY HAVE THERE.

UH I WAS NOT GOING TO SUPPORT S TWO.

YES.

UH, AS THREE, NO, AS FOR YES.

AS FIVE, NO, AS SIX.

YES.

AND AS SEVEN.

YES.

THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE DID.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS THE PAINTED HEART, BUT BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT WE WERE ALL DISCUSSING.

LAST TIME, A SMALL CVS, THE BLADE SIGN.

THAT'S HANGING OUT THERE BY THIS ON 20, I BELIEVE THAT'S 20.

LET ME GO GET CLINIC 23RD OR 24TH STREET BECAUSE NOBODY'S CAN PARK ALONG THAT STREET.

ANYHOW.

UH, AND THERE'S NO PARKING ALLOWED THAT, THAT STREET ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET.

SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT BLADE SIGN BY THAT SIDE ENTRANCE OVER THERE, OR THERE, THE LITTLE ONE THAT HANGS THERE, THE ONE THAT'S ABOVE IT.

I'M OKAY.

WITH ABOVE THE VARSITY SIGN, THERE WAS A BLANK PANEL THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT THEIR CVS SIGN, WHICH IS LIT.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT COMING UP OR DOWN WATERLOO.

OKAY.

AND I WAS OKAY WITH, UH, IF WE GO BACK OVER HERE TOO, WITH THE PAINTED HARD ON THE BACK SIDE.

SO WHAT WE HAVE, WE, IF WE GO TO THAT, TO THAT PAGE, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

AND THEY CAN MOVE THAT BLADE SIGN OR THE LITTLE HANGING SIGN UP CLOSER TO WHERE THEIR HANDRAILS ARE AT.

CAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT AS THEY'RE WALKING DOWN THE SIDEWALK.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LOOK AT THE FRONT OF THE FACE OF THAT BUILDING.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO MICHAEL, WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO ARE YOU TRYING TO CLARIFY THE MOTION? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT LOOKS AT ITEM, UM, IN PART ONE OF OUR BACKUP PAGE FIVE, THAT SHOWS ONLY THREE SIGNS.

OKAY.

I'M THERE AT FIVE THAT'S.

THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING.

ONLY ONE ON THE ONE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE ON LUMINATION THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR, IT'S JUST THE OTHER TWO, IF I'M READING THAT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO, BUT IS FIVE, FIVE TO ME ARE THE ILLUMINATED LETTERS THAT STAND UP IN FRONT, ON, ON WHERE, ON THE, ON THE CANOPY.

I'M NOT SUPPORTING THAT.

I CAN SUPPORT THAT AT THAT EMPTY BOX THAT THEY HAVE UNDER VARSITY ATTEMPT TO BE THERE FOR THEM.

SO WE, I GUESS MY POINT IS HERE, WE NEED CLARITY ON WHAT WE ARE APPROVING, BECAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU, THE WAY IT'S GOING NOW IS I'M GOING TO GET CALLS TOMORROW GOING.

YEAH.

SO WHAT WAS THE MOTION AND WHAT THAT APPROVED? SO, MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY, IF YOU LOOK AT S ONE, IT SAYS ILLUMINATED LETTERS, THOSE LETTERS ARE THE, IS THE CVS, THE HEART WITH THE CVS PHARMACY ACROSS THE TOP OF THAT CANOPY ON BOTTLE.

I CAN NOT SUPPORT THAT.

GOT IT, GOT IT.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UH, IF YOU TAKE A LOCATION, NUMBER TWO, THAT'S THE LIGHTED CVS SIGN WITH THE HEARTS.

THAT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

I'M NOT SUPPORTING THAT EITHER.

SO WHAT I WANT THE MOTION MAKER TO DO HERE AND MELISSA, I SEE YOUR HAND UP, UH, WHEN I WANT THE MOTION MAKER TO DO IS TO CLARIFY WHICH SIGNS WERE APPROVING AND WHAT VARIANCES AROUND THOSE SIGNS.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO, UH, MELISSA, I SEE YOUR HAND UP.

SO PROBABLY THE ONE PIECE THAT SHE GAVE US WHEN SHE WAS GIVING THE PRESENTATION WAS SHE HAD A PICTURE OF THE OLD VARSITY THEATER FROM THE THIRTIES.

AND THAT, THAT OLD PICTURE HAD THE PLAYBILL AREA THAT WAS ILLUMINATED.

IT ACTUALLY WAS A BIG LETTER BOX BACK IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE DAY KIND OF LIKE THE ELLA ROYAL SIGN, WHERE THEY SWITCH OUT THE LETTERS FOR THE SHOWS COMING.

SO THAT BAND AT SOME POINT WAS ILLUMINATED.

AND SO IT IS MORE OF A, THE ONE ON GUADALUPE.

I KIND OF HAVE

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A DIFFERENT FEELING FOR, JUST BECAUSE OF THAT.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MELISSA D DASH ONE FOUR? CAUSE I DROVE BY THERE TODAY AND I DROVE BY THERE ON, ON SATURDAY.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE THAT WAS LIKE THE OLD, YOU KNOW, HOW, LIKE WHEN THE MOVIE THEATER WAS OPEN, THEY HAD AN ILLUMINATED BAND AND IT JUST NOW SHOWING HOURS.

AND SO I KIND OF HAVE A DIFFERENT FEELING ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S ON GUADALUPE, JUST BECAUSE IT, IT MIMICS THAT, UM, THAT'S JUST ME AND MY LITTLE SONGS.

I, I UNDERSTAND IF YOU MAKE IT BIGGER, IF YOU MAKE THAT PICTURE BIGGER, D ONE FOUR, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY ALSO HAVE THE CVS UP RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE BARS, THE WELLS FARGO.

IT'S MORE YOUR, YOUR YES, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR PRESENTATION, WHICH IS A ONE-PAGE PRESENTATION, THERE'S NO SIGNAGE ABOVE THE WELLS FARGO.

AND THAT'S WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.

UM, ASKING APPROVAL FOR, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION, IT SHOWS WHAT SIGNS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

THEY DIDN'T, SHE DIDN'T REALLY DO A GOOD JOB OF DOING A SITE PLAN SHOWING THOSE.

BUT IF YOU JUST LOOK AT HER PRESENTATION, IT SHOWS THE HEART.

YEAH.

THE ONE ON THE FRONT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT YOU AND MELISSA ARE TALKING ABOUT, THERE'S ONE UNDER THE CANOPY, THERE'S ONE UNDER THE VARSITY SIGN.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S NOT SHOWN THERE'S, THERE'S ALSO ONE ON THE SIDE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT'S A TOOL CVS WITH THE HEART, AND THEN THERE'S THE SMALL UNDER, WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY ACTUALLY ASKING FOR WHAT PAGES THAT AREN'T GOING TO BACK UP UNDER PRESENTATION? IT'S A ONE-PAGE PRESENTATION.

AND, AND THE, THE, UH, NOTICE THAT WE HAVE, UH, IN THE POSTING ON THE AGENDA, UH, SAYS, UH, ALPHA THE ILLUMINATION OF TWO WALL SIGNS AND TWO PROJECTING SIGNS.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONLY FOUR SIGNS IN THE ASS.

OKAY.

UM, AND SO I WANT TO US TO CLEARLY IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE SIGNS ARE AND, AND IF WE'RE ALLOWING THOSE, WHICH OF THOSE SIGNS WERE ALLOWED TO BE ELIMINATE.

OKAY.

UH, IT DID.

IT WAS THAT ELAINE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, LET'S SEE HERE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, NO, UH, UH, SO, SO, UH, IF, IF THE BOARD MEMBERS ASK YOU TO CLARIFY, YOU CAN, OTHERWISE YOU NEED TO JUST SIT TIGHT.

OKAY, MELISSA.

SO FROM THE UPDATED PRESENTATION, THERE'S ONLY THREE SIGNS THAT ARE IN, IN QUESTION, WHICH WOULD BE ON TOP OF THE CANOPY ON FRONT, ON GUADALUPE.

IT IS FREE, FREE FACING THE SIGN THAT IS PERPENDICULAR ON GUADALUPE.

AND IT'S ASKING FOR THE ENTRY FEATURE ON 20, WHATEVER THAT IS.

THAT WOULD BE THE ONES ON PAGE FIVE, ONE SLASH WELL, I AM LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION DOCUMENT, BUT THE D ONE FIVE CORRESPONDS TO THE PRESENTATION DOCUMENT, THE INFORMATION.

WELL, DID YOU GET YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED? YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO BE REAL CLEAR WHAT THE MOTION WAS.

IF THE MOTION IS WE WANT TO DO THOSE THREE ON D ONE SLASH FIVE, THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE EASIER FOR ME.

OKAY, VERONICA, GO AHEAD.

SO, UM, I I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK THE APPLICANT.

IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE SIGNS OR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOUR, BECAUSE I HAVE THE SAME, I'M LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION AND WITH THE, AND I BLEW UP THE PHOTO AND IT HAS WHAT MELISSA JUST DESCRIBED.

I ONLY SEE THREE.

I DON'T SEE THIS ONE.

OKAY.

CAN YOU CLARIFY WHERE THE FOURTH ONE IS? I'D LIKE TO KNOW BECAUSE NOW I'M LOOKING AT THREE.

YEAH.

VERY GOOD.

SO THE APPLICANT WE ARE NOW ASKING YOU TO, UH, BASED ON THE PRESENTATION, WE SEE THREE SIGNS THAT SAY CVS ON THERE.

UH, ARE THERE THREE SIGNS OR, OR IS THERE A FOURTH SIGN THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING? UH, HELLO? UH, YES.

AT THE BEGINNING, WHENEVER WE APPLIED, WE APPLIED FOR FOUR FINE, NO WALL TIMES WE TOOK OFF ONE PROJECTION SITE AND WE SAVED THE EXTENSION SIGN, UM, UNDER VARSITY SIGN.

SO WE'RE ON NOW.

WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR THREE, THE TWO WALL AND THE ONE PROJECTION SIGN.

UH, I'LL GO.

WHY THE OTHER ON 24TH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR ONLY THREE SIGNS, NOT 4 CENTS.

AND THE, AND THE THREE SIGNS, UM, ARE SHOWN IN THE PROPOSED ON YOUR PRESENTATION, UH, DRAWING.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

I'LL

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PAY THE ONE OVER FIVE.

UH, WELL, NO, THERE'S ONLY ONE PRESENTATION GROWING IT'S D ONE, UH, ONE IT'S THE SAME.

IT'S THE SAME PAINTING.

I JUST, I WANT TO TIE IT TO SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE.

UH, OKAY.

UM, DARRYL IS MR. CHAIR.

YEAH.

UH, MIKE, GO AHEAD AND FOLLOW YOU.

I HAD A QUESTION.

I MEAN, UM, I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF HEARTBURN ABOUT THESE THREE SIGNS, AND I GUESS THEY'VE DECIDED THAT THEY CAN REWORK THE SIGN, THE PROJECTING SIGN THAT THAT IS IN FRONT OF A GUADALUPE STREET, I THINK IS WHAT I HEARD HER SAY.

UM, AND IF THEY CAN DO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT OUR BUSINESS.

I AM CONCERNED THOUGH, ABOUT HOW, HOW MUCH OF THIS TUBULAR LIGHTING AS LONG, THE ALONG THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE HAVE TO GRANT A VARIANCE FOR.

UH, OR IF WE GRANT THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE UNDERSIGNED, WHICH IS NUMBER TWO AND THE SIGN ON THE WALL, CAN WE RESTRICT AS PART OF THAT, THE AMOUNT OF THAT TUBULAR LIGHTING THAT BASICALLY THEY'RE PROPOSING TO RUN AT THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING.

OKAY.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE ARE ONLY THREE SIGNS.

THERE IS THE BLADE SIGN THAT IS UNDER THE VARSITY, THE EXISTING VARSITY SIGN.

IT'S A BLADE TIME AND IT'S THE CVS SIGN.

AND THERE ARE TWO CVS PHARMACY SIGNS WITH THE LOGO ON THE CANOPIES, A ONE ON GUADALUPE AND ONE ON 24TH STREET IS THAT IF YOU TAKE A LOOK FURTHER BACK, THAT ONE IS HANGING AND IT'S ON THE FARGO.

NO, WAIT, THERE'S THE ONE THAT FACES THE FRONT.

AND LIKE MELISSA SAYS THE ONE THAT'S UNDER THE VARSITY SIGN.

IT'S JUST A REFACING.

THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT SIGN.

AND THEN THERE'S THE TWO ON THE 24TH STREET SIDE, THE UNDER CANOPY AND THE, ON THE WALL.

SO IN REALITY, THERE'S FOUR SIGNS BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY FACING THE VARSITY SUN.

YEAH.

SO MY QUESTION, MY QUESTION WAS, CAN WE CONDITION THE APPROVAL OF THE SIGN ON THE WALL, ON THE SIDE WITH REDUCTION OF SOME OF THAT TUBULAR LIGHTING THAT RUNS THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE BUILDING? WELL, THE ASK IS FOR ILLUMINATION OR NOT ON THE FOUR SIGNS THAT THEY'RE ORIGINALLY ASKING FOR, WHICH NOW IS DOWN TO THREE, I BELIEVE FROM WHAT THE APPLICANT STATED, BUT I MAY BE WRONG.

UM, SO, UM, UH, JESSICA, DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY YOUR MOTION HERE? ABSOLUTELY.

SO, I MEAN, TUBULAR LINING, ISN'T PART OF THE SCIENCE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY SAY ON THAT, RIGHT.

SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE BRIGHT ANYWAYS.

AND WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THIS IS A MISTAKE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT HUB.

IT'S GOING TO BE FIXED EVENTUALLY, HOPEFULLY.

SO THE MOTION SPECIFICALLY WILL BE TO TIE THE SCIENCE IN TO D ONE FIVE, THOSE THREE SIGNS, THE CANDIDATE, THE TWO CANOPY SIDES, ONE ON EACH SIDE AND THAT ONE BLADE SIGN.

AND IT WOULD BE TO ALLOW ILLUMINATION FOR THOSE SIGNS.

NO, YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD.

BROOKE.

IT'S ONLY THE ONE CANOPY SIGN ON THE SIDE THAT, AND THAT'S A WALL SIGN IS NUMBER TWO.

AND THEN THE FRONT ONE, I THINK HAS THE WHOLE WOMAN TO CROSS THE FRONT.

LIKE THE MORE KEY IT'S THAT NUN UP WALL ON THE UNDER THE CARDS ARE THE PICTURES.

OH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT IS WALL SIGN.

SORRY.

YEAH.

JUST TO CLARIFY.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A WALL SIGN, BROOKE ON 24TH STREET.

YEAH.

THERE'S A WALL AND A CANOPY ON 24 AND THEN YEAH, THERE'S THE BLADE UNDERNEATH THE CANOPY AND A WALL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE SIX, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU WOULD APPROVE NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE HEART, THE CVS AND PHARMACY, ALL OF THAT ALONG THE WALL.

NUMBER TWO IS CVS PHARMACY ON A LITTLE SQUARE HANGING DOWN FROM THAT OVERHANG.

AND THEN THE NUMBER FIVE WOULD BE THE CVS PHARMACY KIND OF FACING GUADALUPE, BUT NOT THE BLADE SIGN.

CAUSE THEY'VE SAID THAT THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR THAT.

THEY'RE JUST GOING TO REPLACE IT.

YEAH.

RESURFACE THERE.

YES.

BUT THAT'S

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EVERYTHING IN ONE FUND D ONE FIVE, RIGHT? THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THAT AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH ON D ONE FIVE IT'S SCOTT ELIMINATING LETTERS, RIGHT.

SIGN.

AND THEN RIGHT.

BUT FIVE IS ON MECHANIC B.

IT'S NOT ON THE WALL.

CAN WE ALL GO? CAN, CAN LET'S LET'S ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND LET'S GO TO OF THE PRESENTATION AND I EXPANDED MINE HERE.

AND WHAT I'M SEEING IS THE CVS.

I SEE A CVS SIGN UNDER VARSITY.

I SEE A CVS ON TOP OF THE COUNTY CANOPY.

I SEE A SMALL CVS RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE DOORS, UNDER THE CANOPY.

I SEE A CVS THAT IS ON 24TH STREET, THE BIG LETTERS IN A HEART.

AND THEN I ALSO SEE A SMALL CVS BACK TO THE LEFT OF THAT.

IT HANGS DOWN.

SO THERE'S MORE IF WE APPROVE ACCORDING TO , WE'RE GIVING AWAY MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING HERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS D ONE FIVE, NOT THE ONE-ON-ONE.

OKAY, MELISSA, I SEE YOUR HAND UP AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO MOTION MAKER, JESSICA.

SO IF YOU'D GO TO D ONE FIVE, BUT NOW WE'RE GOING TO LAST WEEKS.

OKAY.

HOLD ON.

JUST A THERE'S PART WOMAN IN PART TWO FOR D ONE.

SO IF YOU OPEN D ONE PART, ONE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF BEING ONE PART ONE AFTER THE POSTPONEMENT IS OKAY, YOU JUST GO DOWN AND MELISSA, THREE, FOUR, I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO START DOING ONE.

OKAY.

LET'S LET'S MOVE ON MICHAEL.

GOT IT.

SO THERE'S D ONE, FIVE 81, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN IN PART, ONE OF THE BACKUP, HER D ONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, LET ME ASK YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT D ONE 13.

THERE ARE SEVEN SIGNS PROPOSED ON THERE.

IF WE CAN TIE THOSE SIGNS TO THE ASK HERE AND SAY THE SIGNS THAT ARE SHOWN ON D ONE 13, AND THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ONLY S ONE S TWO S3 AS FOUR AS FIVE AS SIX AND SEVEN, THAT WOULD BE A HUGE HELP BECAUSE RIGHT NOW MY BRAIN IS ABOUT READY TO EXPLODED.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE.

THAT'S WHAT WE SEE ON NUMBER FOUR.

THAT'S WHAT MICHAEL STARTED OFF.

OKAY.

OF COURSE HE SAID.

AND THEN IF YOU, AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER SIX, THAT DESCRIBES EXACTLY WHAT SIGNS ONE, TWO, AND FIVE THAT ARE LOCATED ON DOCUMENT FIVE ARE GOING TO BE DOING.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS, HAS CLARIFIED.

THAT THAT'S THE ONLY THREE THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR AT THIS TIME.

UH, AND IF THE MOTION, IF THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE SIZE AND LOCATION AND ILLUMINATION OF THE SIGNS OF ONE, TWO AND FIVE ON D ONE OVER FIVE, THAT'D BE OKAY WITH THAT.

JUST TELL THEM THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING ELSE FOR FIVE.

OKAY.

UH, MICHAEL, I SEE YOUR HAND BACK UP.

YOU'RE MUTED.

IT'S A GOOD THING.

I WAS CAUSE YOU DIDN'T HEAR WHAT I JUST SAID, BUT, UM, I WENT TO WHERE YOU WERE MR. CHAIR ON D ONE 13.

AND UH, AND I WENT DOWN THE LIST THERE OF THE PROPOSED SIGNS AND THAT'S WHERE I CAME UP WITH THE AS TO I ASKED ONE, NO, AS TO YES.

AS THREE, NO, AS FOUR.

YES.

AS FIVE, NO AS SIX.

YES.

AND AS SEVEN.

YES, BECAUSE THEY WERE ASKING ON D 13 IN THAT PACKET, THEY WERE ASKING FOR A LITTLE PAINTED HEART ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, WHICH I DIDN'T FEEL WAS ANY HARM.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I CAME UP WITH IT.

WHEN I DROVE OUT THERE, I WENT AROUND THE BUILDING.

I LOOKED AT IT.

SO, I MEAN, IF ANYBODY ELSE IN BROOK HAS, OR HAS SOMETHING SHE WOULD LIKE TO SAY, NO, THAT WAS LAST MONTH ASKED THAT UPDATED THEIR ASK TO D ONE FIVE, WHICH IS JUST THREE SIGNS, WHICH THEY'RE NOT ASKING ANYTHING ON SIZE OR ANYTHING, JUST THE ILLUMINATION AND THEN GIVING THAT, UM, ALL FOR THE, I DON'T KNOW

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HOW MANY MONTHS NOW, IF SOMEBODY IS ONLY ASKING FOR ELIMINATION ON LESS THAN FOUR SIGNS OR FOUR SIGNS OR LESS, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY MUCH GIVEN THAT IF THEY WEREN'T ASKING FOR SIZE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING I TOURED.

UM, SO I'M OKAY WITH TYING IT TO BE ONE FIVE, UM, AND GIVING THEM THREE SIGNS ILLUMINATED, OH, DUMMY.

THESE ARE JUST THREE ILLUMINATED SIGNS.

JESSICA, IS THAT YOUR MOTION? THAT IS MY MOTION.

THOSE THREE SIGNS ELIMINATION ON MY CHAIRMAN.

CAN YOU CALL THE QUESTION? YOU'RE MUTED.

WE'LL HAVE TO DO FINDINGS FIRST.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THE MOTION IS TO, UM, ALLOW ILLUMINATION OF THE THREE SIGNS THAT ARE SHOWN ON D ONE, UH, SHEET FIVE, UH, IN, ON THE BACKUP, UH, THAT ARE, ARE DESIGNATED AS S ONE S TWO AND S IS THAT CORRECT? UH, JESSICA, CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND THEN JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, RED, RED LED BOARD IN THE BEAN.

THAT IS ALSO NO IN THAT PROPOSED SIDEBAR.

OKAY.

I MEAN, IF THAT'S A, IF THAT'S A VIOLATION OF CODE IN SOME WAYS, THEN THAT, THEN THEY NEED TO JUST DEAL WITH THAT.

BUT ALL WE ARE DOING IS, UM, UH, DEALING WITH THE, UH, ILLUMINATION ASKED ON THE THREE SIGNS THAT WE JUST IDENTIFIED ON, ON, UH, D ONE, UH, SHEET FIVE.

I KNOW THE QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED, BUT JUST THE POINT OF ORDER IS S SEVEN INCLUDED IN THIS MOTION.

IS THAT EVEN A OF THE SIGN? NO.

NO, JUST S ONE S TWO S FIVE.

JUST THOSE THREE THAT ARE ON A D ONE.

NO, MY QUESTION WAS, AND I APOLOGIZE.

WE'VE JUST, THERE'S A LOT OF TOPICS I'D WANT TO MUDDY THE WATERS UNTIL NOW IS A PAINTING REQUIRE AS A VARIANCE REQUIRED FOR THE PAINTED HEART ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.

IF IT'S ILLUMINATED, IF IT IS JUST A HEART, NO ART IS NOT A SIGN UP.

SO IF IT'S A LOGO, IT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED.

OKAY.

SO IT WOULD BE AT STAFF'S DISCRETION IN, IN, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, DOING THE ORDINANCE PART OF THAT.

JESSICA, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO, TO KEEP THE, UH, MOTION AS YOU GOT IT WITH TIMES ONE, TWO AND FIVE, BUT TO LEAVE THE STAFF'S DISCRETION, WHETHER SEVEN IS, UH, IS A UP TO SNUFF? ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

AND IT SAYS PAINTED HEROIC CARB THERE.

IT DOESN'T SAY, UM, ANYTHING, UH, AT LEAST IN THE LIST.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THE FINDINGS.

OKAY.

BRIAN'S FINDINGS SUGGEST THIS VERY, BECAUSE STRICT ENFORCEMENT OF THE ARTICLE FOR HABITS TO BE