* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] WE HAVE A QUORUM OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BRING THIS [Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order ] MEETING TO ORDER AT SIX OH FOUR P N. UM, OKAY. AND, UH, TODAY WE'LL JUST DO A QUICK ROLL CALL. UM, I'LL SAY YOUR NAME, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND. UH, THIS EVENING, UH, PRESENT MYSELF, UH, SHARE SHAW. UM, WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONERS CONLEY, COMMISSIONER FLORES, COMMISSIONER, UH, HOWARD, UH, COMMISSIONER YANAS POLITO PRESENT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER SNYDER, UH, COMMISSIONER SEE HER, UH, COMMISSIONER SHEA AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. OH, AND, UH, SEE, I'VE TAKEN MY TIME HERE. SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS ARE HERE WITH US AS WELL. OKAY. SO THAT MAKES OUR TOTAL OF THIS EVENING, UH, 10, UH, THE VICE CHAIR, UH, UH, HEMPHILL IS OUT, UH, THIS EVENING AND WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES THAT, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE FILLED HERE. I THINK COUNCIL APPROVED THOSE, UH, THIS WEEK OR SOMETIME RECENTLY. SO WE, UH, WE WILL HAVE A FULL HOUSE NEXT TIME. UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, EXIT EX OFFICIO MEMBERS, DON LAYTON BURWELL IS HERE AND, UH, AS WELL WE HAVE, UH, AISD EX OFFICIO, RICHARD MENDOSA. I THOUGHT I SAW YOU. YEP. PUBLIC WORKS. YUP. ALRIGHT. OH, PUBLIC WORKS. YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU. IT'S WRONG ON MY, OR I'M READING SOMETHING WRONG. SORRY ABOUT THAT. EXCUSE ME. SO WE'RE STILL WAITING ON FILLING THE AISD EX-OFFICIO POSITION. UM, SO, UH, BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, I WANT TO TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT, UM, TO RECOGNIZE, UH, IT'S WITH A BIT OF SADNESS. UH, BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST CAME ON COMMISSIONER SEGER AND ANDERSON, UH, WERE BOTH, UM, ON THE COMMISSION AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION, UH, FOR BOTH OF YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER SEEGER IS HERE, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, MAYBE HE'S WATCHING FROM HOME. UM, BUT JUST, UH, THESE ARE TWO, UH, I THINK TWO OF THE LONGEST STANDING COMMISSIONERS WE'VE HAD HERE. AND, UM, THEY REALLY HAVE OFFERED US, UH, THE DIVERSE KIND OF VIEWPOINTS THAT WE NEED TO BE A STRONG COMMISSION. AND I, I AM SO HELPFUL FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER SEEGER. MANY TIMES WE HAVE TALKED ON THE PHONE LATE EVENINGS, YOU KNOW, ON A PARTICULAR CASE. AND YOU'VE REALLY HELPED ME UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE NUANCES AND ALSO, UH, THE NE YOU KNOW, KIND OF UNDERSTANDING THE NEIGHBORHOODS POSITION ON SOME THINGS, UM, THAT YOU, YOU WOULD OFTENTIMES DRIVE DECIDES QUITE FREQUENTLY TO GO VISIT AND ACTUALLY GET A FIRSTHAND VIEW OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE GROUND. SO I KNOW YOU DID THAT QUITE A BIT. I THINK YOU REALLY PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THESE CASES AND LIKEWISE COMMISSIONER ANDERSON. UM, WE DIDN'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT I LEARNED SO MUCH, UH, YOU KNOW, HIS FRIEND, THE URBAN PLANNING PROFESSION. UH, I DID, UH, I LEARNED QUITE A BIT FROM COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, ANDY. HE DEFINITELY, UH, EDUCATED ME ON A LOT OF URBAN PLANNING PRINCIPLES THAT I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH WHEN I JOINED. UH, SO I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING. UM, AND WE'LL, AND WE'LL CLOSE, UH, COMMISSIONER C YOU'RE WANTING TO SAY A FEW WORDS. SO IT, UM, AFTER WE GO AROUND THE ROOM HERE, UH, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IN APPRECIATION OF COMMISSIONER SEEKER AND ANDERSON POLICE COMMISSIONER SNYDER, UH, SO, UH, I WAS, UH, SAD TO LEARN OF BOTH COMMISSIONER ANDERSON AND COMMISSIONER SEEKERS DEPARTURE. UM, I FEEL LIKE, UH, I'VE, I'VE GONE FROM, FROM ZERO TO AT LEAST SOME SPEED, UH, IN LARGE PART, THANKS TO, UM, THEIR ADVICE AND THE WAY THAT I SEE THEM WORK ON THAT COMMISSION. UM, UH, GREG'S NOT HERE, BUT, UM, GREG AT HOME, IF YOU'RE WATCHING, THANK YOU. UM, PATRICIA, UM, I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS VALUED YOUR OPINION. YOU ARE A REAL STEADFAST MEMBER, YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND YOU'VE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING. UM, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT AUSTIN AND THAT YOU CARE ABOUT, UM, THE WORK OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK. [00:05:01] OKAY. I'M UM, INCREDIBLY SADDENED AND SHOCKED. I MEAN, PATRICIA AND GREG, I LOVE YOU GUYS. I MEAN, THE TWO OF YOU, WHEN IT COMES TO A PROJECT, I MEAN THE TWO OF YOU HELP HELP ME HELP ALL OF US TAKE SOMETHING AND YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA BREAK IT BEFORE YOU CAN FIX IT. RIGHT. AND I LOVE WHERE THE TWO OF YOU COME FROM TWO DIFFERENT SIDES AND ALWAYS ARE ABLE TO BRING THAT PART TO, TO KIND OF GRAB SOMETHING AND SHAKE IT OPEN BEFORE WE KIND OF FIND A WAY TO PUT IT TOGETHER. I REALLY HOPE THAT, UM, ALL OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HERE CAN BE INSPIRED BY BOTH OF YOUR APPROACHES, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, AND AGAIN, I MEAN, I'M REALLY GONNA MISS YOU GUYS. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY. SO I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP THROUGH ALL THE YEARS TO ALL THE CODE, NEXT STUFF, AND ALL THE COLD NEXT CODE NEXT, NEXT, AND EVEN MOVING FORWARD. AND I, I REALLY HOPE THAT, UM, YOU GUYS STAY IN TOUCH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU KNOW, AS KIND OF GUIDANCE THROUGH, UH, UM, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS WHOLE NEW ERA OF AUSTIN THAT IS COMPLETELY TRANSFORMING SO QUICKLY IN FRONT OF US. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, FOR BEING THERE FOR US. THANK YOU, JARED. I JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH PRETTY MUCH WHERE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS SAID, SAID, UH, AND I'M SAD TO SEE BOTH COMMISSIONER SPEAKER AND KOSHA ANDERSON GO. IT HAS BEEN A JOY SERVING WITH THEM, AND I AGREE THAT I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH THEM, BOTH ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THEN ALSO SERVING WITH THEM WHEN THE CODES AND ORDINANCES JOINED COMMITTEE. AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST TACK THEM FOR THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY'RE IN AND THE SERVICE THEY'RE BOTH EXTREMELY DILIGENT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE I'VE EVEN SAT NEXT TO YOU, MY NEIGHBOR FOR A WHILE, WHEN WE DID SIT NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST SAW HOW DILIGENT YOU WERE, HOW COMMITTED YOU ARE TO THE WORK AND THE WAY YOU WERE ABLE TO SORT OF GUIDE THE PROCESS AND OFTEN, YOU KNOW, REALLY FOCUS ON HEARING WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE TO SAY. AND I JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS IN DOING THAT. AND I HAVE TO SAY, I AGREE WITH WHAT COMES TO YOUR SAUCE, THAT THERE'S SO MUCH THAT I'VE LEARNED FROM YOU DIGITALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE THE TRANSPORTATION, DEMAND MANAGEMENT AND OTHER PIECES THAT ARE SO CRITICAL TO A PROJECT, AND REALLY APPRECIATE THAT KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU BROUGHT. UM, AND I'VE HAD THE BENEFIT OF LEARNING FROM YOU. AND THEN SAME GOES FOR COMMISSIONER. I UNDERSTAND IF HE'S, YOU KNOW, LISTENING IN AT HOME, I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED SOME OF HIS FASHION, BRINGING THINGS FORWARD AND REALLY REMINDING US OF LARGER PLANNING FALLS AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO HAVE A, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPACT AND CONNECTED CITY AND HOW DO WE GET THE INGREDIENT, YOU KNOW, REMINDING US EVERY TIME TO LIVE UP TO THOSE VALUES AS MATCHING AUSTIN. SO AGAIN, THANK YOU BOTH FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK AND FOR JUST BEING SO AMAZING, SUCH AMAZING COLLEAGUES TO WORK WITH. IT'S BEEN A JOY. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER? UH, YANNIS. PALITO. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. UM, I WAS SO SURPRISED TO, BY THIS NEWS AND, UM, I WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF A LOT OF FOLKS. UM, I THINK SERVING ON THIS COMMISSION CAN BE AT MOMENTS REALLY DRAINING, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, REWRITE ATTEMPTS. AND I'VE BEEN THROUGH ONE, UH, WELL, I'VE BEEN THROUGH LOTS OF THE OTHER ONES ON THE COMMUNITY SIDE OF THINGS, BUT ON THIS COMMISSION SERVING, UM, I JUST HAVE SO MUCH ADMIRATION FOR EVERYBODY WHO SHOWED UP FOR IT AGAIN AND AGAIN. UM, AND NO MATTER WHERE WE STOOD ON THE ISSUES, EVERYBODY WAS GIVING A LOT OF THEIR LIFE AND TIME AND ENERGY TO IT. UM, IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE CASES THAT GO THAT COME AND GO FOR MOST PEOPLE IN ARE JUST TINY DETAILS FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THESE COMMUNITIES. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT MEANS SOMETHING TO EVERYBODY. AND SO I APPRECIATE THE SERVICE OF, OF BOTH OF YOU FOR ALL THIS TIME. AND OF COURSE, COMMISSIONER ANDERSON AND I HAVE SPARRED PLENTY. WE'VE BEEN KNOWN FOR OUR SOCIAL MEDIA DEBATES. WE'VE BEEN KNOWN FOR OUR, UM, CONVERSATIONS ON THIS DIET. AND, UM, AND, AND I VALUE THAT BECAUSE WE WERE ALSO, WE ALSO WALKED TO DINNER ON BREAKS AND, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT OTHER THINGS, UH, THAT DECENT HUMAN BEINGS TALK ABOUT. SO I REALLY RESPECT EVERYONE'S, UH, SERVICE ON MISSION. AND, UM, WE'LL ECHO EVERYTHING ABOUT COMMISSIONER SEEGER'S DILIGENCE. UM, BOTH OF YOU HAVE MADE ME A BETTER COMMISSIONER AND INSPIRED ME TO BRING MY GAME, UM, AND SHOW UP AND DO THIS WORK TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITIES. I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER HOWARD, JUST BRIEFLY. I JUST WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER SEEGER AND COMMISSIONER ANDERSON, SIMPLY FOR JUST YOUR GREAT EXAMPLE. I MEAN, [00:10:01] YOU GUYS ARE PITTA MRIS, WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE LIKE? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I THINK IT IS ODD TO SEE YOU GO ALL BOTH GO BECAUSE YOU'RE, I CONSIDER YOU THAT THE SEASONS ONE ON THE COMMISSION. AND SO I FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE, OKAY, WE NEED TO STEP IT UP HERE BECAUSE FOLKS ARE LEAVING, BUT I FEEL VERY MUCH LIKE YOU ALL GET A GREAT EXAMPLE. HE CARES PASSIONATELY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND THAT FAR YOU STAND FIRM ON YOUR, ON YOUR BELIEFS AND YOUR OPINIONS. I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE IN HIS COMMISSION WOULD SAY THAT THEY, THEY DIDN'T. AND SO I PERSONALLY WOULD, I WILL MISS YOU BOTH. AND I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, THE KIND OF EXAMPLE THAT YOU SAID, AND JUST MORE IMPORTANTLY, HOW, HOW, HOW PASSIONATE YOU ARE ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BOTH. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UH, SO COMMISSIONER SEGER, I KNOW YOU WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS, BUT THIS IS YOUR MOMENT. OH, THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY GOODBYE TO MY FELLOW PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ON OUR ARTIFICIAL DIOCESE, AS WE HAVE BEEN FOR THE PAST YEAR. I WISH WE COULD HAVE WORKED IN PERSON. I THINK THAT A LOT MORE IS ACCOMPLISHED IN THE PERSONAL DISCUSSIONS, BUT THIS IS THE LIFE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, HELP WAY. IT DOESN'T LAST TOO MUCH LONGER. AND YOU CAN GET BACK ON THE DIET OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO. I'VE WORKED ON BOTH ZAP AND THE PLANNING CONDITION. AND I'VE WORKED WITH A LOT OF COMMISSIONERS IN ADDITION TO SAYING THANK YOU TO THE CURRENT COMMISSIONERS. I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE PAST COMMISSIONERS, AS WHAT WAS STATED BY OUR COMMISSIONERS, JUST IT'S EVERYONE'S VIEWPOINT THAT COMES TO THE BEST DECISION. WE ALL COME FROM DIFFERENT PLACES. WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDINGS OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEND A REALLY BIG THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR ALL THE HELP THAT YOU GAVE ME IN UNDERSTANDING AND TRYING TO DECIDE FOR OUR VERY COMPLEX, CONTRADICTORY AND OBSOLETE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SPEAKING OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, I HOPE A RESOLUTION COMES SOON WHERE WE HAVE, YOU HAVE A NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. EVERYONE HAS A NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO WORK WITH AND A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT ANSWERS THE NEEDS OF TODAY TOMORROW, BUT ALSO LOOKS AT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST. AND THIS IS COMING FROM, I GUESS MY NEIGHBORHOOD'S PERSPECTIVE, BUT I WANT TO PUT IT IN THERE. THERE ARE RESIDENTS WHO'VE BEEN PAYING PROPERTY TAX FOR 10, 20, 30 YEARS. THAT DIDN'T FEEL REPRESENTED DURING OUR LAST SEVERAL GO DOWNS OF THE REWRITE. I REALLY HOPE THAT EVERYONE HAS A VOICE. THOSE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE PAID THE PROPERTY TAXES HAVE BUILT OUR SCHOOLS, OUR ROADS HAVE SUPPORTED THE UNHOUSED AND GIVEN TO THOSE AUSTINITES AND NEED. AND WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY, MAKE SURE WE LOOK AT IT. THAT EQUITY COMES IN MANY COLORS AND FORMS. THE NEW CODE NEEDS TO COME WITH THE LENS, SUPPORTING ALL AUSTINITES BECAUSE IT IS FOR ALL AUSTINITES AND I WISH YOU LUCK IF YOU GET INVOLVED IN ANOTHER REWRITE. THANK YOU. I WILL MISS YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONER SEGER AND ALL THE REST OF YOU. UM, WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DIVE INTO, [Reading of Agenda] UH, WHAT THE, UH, AGENDA HERE. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO REMIND YOU ALL, YOU'VE GOT YOUR, UH, COLOR DIATOMS FOR VOTING. UH, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THEM GO GET THEM, UM, YEAH, STAY MUTE WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING AND RAISE YOUR HAND AND, UH, KEEP RAISING IT. IF I DON'T RECOGNIZE YOU, SOMETIMES IT'S KINDA HARD TO SEE. WHO'S TRYING TO GET MY ATTENTION HERE ON THE SCREEN, UH, FOR THE PARTICIPANTS OUT THERE. UH, YOU'LL HEAR ME SAY IT, UH, STAR SIX TO MUTE. AND, UM, IF YOUR ITEM IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE HAVE MANY THIS EVENING, UM, BUT, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT ON THE LINE. YOU'LL RECEIVE EMAIL ABOUT 15 MINUTES OUT BEFORE WE TAKE UP THE ITEM. SO, UM, MOVING ON TO THE, UH, GETTING TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, [00:15:01] UH, JUST WANT TO GO OVER WITH OUR LISTENERS. UH, THE FIRST ACTIVITY WE'RE DOING HERE IS TO VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH INCLUDES THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 9TH AND A PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, UH, THAT ARE CONSENT POST COMMENT AND NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS. UH, I'LL READ THROUGH, UH, EACH HEARING ITEM AND IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE ON CONSENTMENT CONSENT POSTPONEMENT AND NON-DISCUSSION. AND AGAIN, IF YOU'RE WAITING ON THE LINE TO DISCUSS AN ITEM, UM, AND YOU DON'T HEAR IT, UH, UH, I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO REQUEST THAT GET PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. UH, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE THE CASE THIS EVENING. UM, LET'S SEE. SO, UH, ITEM MAY ENTER THE CONSENT AGENDA. UH, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UH, FROM FEBRUARY NIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES THAT WERE POSTED TODAY? OKAY. SO NO CHANGES TO THE MINUTES, NO CORRECTIONS. UH, NOW I'M GOING TO GO INTO, UH, THE READING OF THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND TAKE FEW MINUTES. UM, SO IN, UH, 10 DINE AND B PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE HAVE THE FIRST ITEM IS B ONE REZONING, UH, C 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE FOUR TWO FOUR ZERO ONE NORTH BLUFF DRIVE. UM, THIS IS A N P T S F SIX N P IT'S RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, UH, AND IT'S, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR CONSENT. AND A, B TWO IS ALSO RECOMMENDED FOR CONSENT. IT'S A REZONING, UH, IT'S ACTUALLY A RE NOTIFICATION. THERE WAS A, AN ADDRESS. IT WAS INADVERTENTLY EMITTED WHEN WE HEARD THIS ONE PREVIOUSLY, UH, PC. UM, SO, WELL, ANYWAY, UH, I THINK WE CAN MOVE THIS ON. YEAH, IT'S ON CONSENT. I DON'T THINK WE'RE REQUIRED TO VOTE INDIVIDUALLY ON THIS, BUT THIS IS A C 14 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO TWO FOUR. IT'S THE TWIN LIQUORS MADDIE'S REZONING. IT WAS A, A S C S ONE, NP, C S N T UH, TWO CS ONE AND P C S N P RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. UH, ITEM B3 IS NOT A CONSENT REZONING CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH 2021 ZERO ZERO ZERO SEVEN. SUNRISE MINI-MART REZONING, UH, IT'S CS. WELL, ACTUALLY, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS, UM, RESOLVING THIS TO SEE US ONE DEAF CEO, UH, ITEM BEFORE IS, UH, IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT UNTIL APRIL 30TH. UH, THAT WAS C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO EIGHT NINE 12TH AND SPRINGDALE RESIDENCES, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDED NEIGHBORHOOD. OH, OKAY. YES, THAT'S FINE. UNTIL APRIL 13TH. UH, ITEM B FIVE REZONING IT'S ON CONSENT. UH, THIS IS C 14 2020 DASH ZERO ONE FOUR FIVE DASH 2,727 1627, 26 EAST FIFTH STREET, REZONING, UM, C S M U C O N T TO C S M U V C O N P. THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF ITEM B SIX SITE PLAN, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR CONSENT CASE NUMBER S P S P C 2020 ZERO ONE TWO ONE C UH, 90 RAINY STREET. UM, APPLICANT PROPOSING COCKTAIL LOUNGE USE IN RESIDENTIAL HIGH RISE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF ITEM B SEVEN SITE PLAN IS NON-CONSENT SPC 2019 ZERO THREE FIVE SEVEN C 73 RAINY STREET. UH, THIS IS ALSO AFRICAN PROPOSING COCKTAIL LOUNGE, HOUSTON NEW REDEVELOPMENT OF SITE IT'S RECOMMENDED BY STAFF MOVING ON TO B EIGHT. THIS IS A SUBDIVISION OUT OF APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN SUFFERED FOR CONSENT C EIGHT 2019 ZERO ZERO FIVE SEVEN.ONE, A KIERSTEN RANCH WEST PHASE ONE FINAL PLAT. AND, UM, THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. WE HAVE BENIGN RECEPTIVE ISN'T ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, CASE NUMBER CA 2019 ZERO ZERO SIX ONE.ZERO, A FOUR PLACE NUMBER TWO, RESUB DIVISION OF LOT ONE BLOCK E. AND THIS IS RECOMMENDED [00:20:01] BY STAFF. WE HAVE ITEM B 10, IT'S A PRELIMINARY PLAN OFFERED FOR CONSENT CASE NUMBER C EIGHT 2019 ZERO ZERO NINE ONE BROADMORE PRELIMINARY PLAN, AND A, THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. WE HAVE ITEM B 11, UH, RECEPTIVE VISION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA CASE NUMBER C A DASH ZERO FOUR DASH ZERO ZERO FOUR THREE OH NINE DOT FOUR EIGHT DOT S H UH, MUELLER GATEWAY SUBDIVISION. IT IS, UM, UH, RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND, UH, ITEM B 12 FINAL PLAT FROM AN APPROVED PRELIMINARY OFFERED FOR CONSENT AGENDA, C A J DASH TWO ZERO ZERO EIGHT DASH ZERO ONE SEVEN SIX.ZERO ONE DOT EIGHT, A SON CHASE CHASE SECTION EIGHT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. AND, UH, ITEM 13 IS A CARD APPEAL. THIS ONE IS A APPLICANT, UM, POSTPONEMENT REQUEST. SO WE'LL HEAR THIS ON MARCH 23RD. UH, THE CASE NUMBER IS SB 2019 ZERO SIX ZERO ZERO CITY, UH, WILDER AND, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS HOLDING DIRECTOR'S DECISION. AND AGAIN, WE'LL HEAR THIS ON THE 23RD OF MARCH. AND SO THOSE ARE THE, UM, THE CONSENT ITEMS, UH, IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MOVE ITEM D ONE, WHICH IS THE DISCUSS AND CONSIDER INITIATING AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY CODE TITLE 25, UH, TO CREATE A MODIFIED SITE PLAN PROCESS FOR QUALIFYING DEVELOPMENT, FOR SUSTAINING IN THE AFFORDABILITY AND LOT DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM. UM, ANYWAY, THIS IS, UH, ALSO, THIS WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION FROM, UH, COUNCIL AND RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO ONE NINE ZERO TWO TWO ONE DESK TWO SEVEN. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT TO CONSENT. UH, DO WE HAVE, UM, BUT BEFORE I ASK IF, UH, THE SPONSORS COMMISSIONER CONLEY AND COMMISSIONER AZHAR WANTS TO SPEAK TO THIS, I BELIEVE ON ITEM B ONE, WE HAD A, UH, YES, WE DO. SO I NEED TO GO BACK ITEM D ONE. I HAVE, UH, SOMEBODY WHO WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, IT'S MS. JEWESS, ARE YOU ON THE LINE STARBUCKS? UH, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. OKAY, GO AHEAD. HELLO. MY NAME IS GWEN JUDAS. I'M WITH THE, UM, SOUTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING, UH, CONTACT TEAM. AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, LEAH BOHO ON WITH GENDER GROUP, THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE DEVELOPER. AND I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE A COPY OF OUR LETTER, UM, WHERE WE OUTLINE, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THERE. AND SO I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE, UM, GOOD WITH GOING WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA. THE ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE IS READ INTO THE RECORD IS THAT, UM, THERE IS A CREEK AT THE SOUTH EDGE OF THIS PROPERTY, AND IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAIN ACCESS TO WHAT WILL BECOME A GREEN BELT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, ACCORDING TO THE FOLKS AT HARVARD. AND THEY ALSO INDICATED THAT THEY HAD, UM, SAID AS MUCH IN THEIR INITIAL REVIEW COMMENTS TO THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT GROUP. SO WE JUST WANT TO, UM, AVOID SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH WITH SOME OTHER PROJECTS WHERE THAT DOESN'T GET DISCUSSED UNTIL QUITE A WAYS DOWN THE ROAD AFTER A LOT OF DESIGN WORK HAS BEEN DONE, BUT WE THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR EFFORTS TODAY, UM, AND EVERYTHING HAS BEEN CONGENIAL. SO I BELIEVE WE ARE ALL SET TO GO ON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. SO, UH, JUMPING BACK, UH, I WANT TO OFFER, UH, COMMISSIONERS AZHAR AND COMMISSIONER CONLEY WHO'S WHO ARE THE CO-SPONSORS FOR ITEM D ONE, UH, TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND, AND IF WE NEED TO HAVE, UH, UH, MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS, WE CAN PULL IT. THAT IS AN OPTION. UH, SO, UM, COMMISSIONER AZHAR, UH, MR. , DO YOU GUYS WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM BEFORE WE PUT IT ON A PROVEN ON CONSENT? [00:25:03] OKAY. COMMISSIONER IS ARE THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, WHILE I'M SORT OF SPEAKING TO IT, I HOPE YOU CAN ALSO CLARIFY. WE DO NOT NEED TO MOVE IT INTO THE RECORD. DO WE, IF WE NEED TO, I CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. UM, IF NOT, BUT THIS IS ALL THAT I HAVE TO OFFER IS IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN THE BACKUP IT'S EXHIBIT EIGHT FOR PROGRAM, WE'VE ASKED A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL RECENTLY ON THIS, UM, AND FORGOT THE EXACT DATA TO MEETING ON ESSENTIALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SITE REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, FOR THE BOLIVIAN LAW, WHICH HAD SOMETHING THAT RESIDE WORLD WE WERE WORKING AS A CITY ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT VOTE. WE DID PASS IT AS A RECOMMENDATION ALREADY, BUT I WAS INFORMED AFTERWARDS, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, A GOURD AMENDMENT INITIATIVE AND ENUNCIATION. SO AT THIS POINT, ALL WE'RE DOING IS INITIATING IT AS ACORN AMENDMENT FOR STAFF TO GO AND WORK ON AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO US AND DO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. SO THAT'S ALL THAT, THIS IS THE SAME. IT WILL BE THE SAME LANGUAGE. IT WOULD BE FOLLOWING THE EXACT SAME GUIDANCE THAT COUNCIL PROVIDED IN THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. UM, AND THAT WILL BE RESOLUTION. I'M GONNA LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GET THE NUMBER OF RIGHT, BUT ESSENTIALLY THIS IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION. IT'S THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT GAZAL HAD ADOPTED. AND THEN WE HAD RECOMMENDED BACK TO THEM RECENTLY, IT WOULD BE IN THE FORM OF A GOURD AMENDMENT. AND IF I NEED TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD, YOU CAN ALWAYS LET ME KNOW. THANK YOU. YEAH. UH, WE DON'T NEED TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD. UM, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY, DID YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO BESIDE HIM? UM, JUST A FEW VERY BRIEF WORDS. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER SEGER ALREADY PUT IT VERY, VERY WELL AND, AND, AND, AND HER COMMENTS ABOUT HOW OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CONTINUES TO BE JUST INCREDIBLY OUTDATED. AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SMALL STEP, BUT IT WILL MOVE US, UH, CLOSER TOWARDS MAKING IT A LITTLE EASIER TO CREATE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS BADLY IN NEED. SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN TAKE THIS STEP AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR, UH, DILIGENCE AND PUSHING THIS THROUGH. UH, SO WE ARE GOING TO INCLUDE, UH, UM, THE ONE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS WELL. AND SO [Consent Agenda] WITH THAT, UM, LET'S SEE IF I'VE GOT EVERYTHING WE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE, I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE ITEMS ONE MORE TIME, BUT WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE ITEMS A B ONE B TWO B THREE, B FOUR, B FIVE, B SIX, B SEVEN, B A B NINE, B 10, B 11, B12 AND B 13. THESE ARE ITEMS THAT D ONE ARE ALL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO IF I COULD GET A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALSO, UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 9TH AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. I SEE COMMISSIONER HOWARD WITH A AND COMMISSIONER, SEE HER WITH A SECOND. SO IF YOU GUYS CAN SHOW ME YOUR CARDS, ALL RIGHT. SEE COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. ARE YOU OKAY? ALL RIGHT. UNANIMOUS. OKAY. SO THAT MOVES US INTO WAY DOWN THE AGENDA. THIS IS, UH, WE SAVED THIS ONE FOR COMMISSIONER SEEGER'S, SO MAYBE WE'LL GET OUT EARLY, RIGHT. LET'S SEE. SO NOW WE HAVE, UM, [C1. Discussion and possible action regarding a recommendation to City Council on the preferred design scenario for the Dougherty Arts Center Replacement Project—Kevin Johnson, Acting Project Management Supervisor, Parks and Recreation Department, (512) 974-9506. ] YES, WE HAVE ITEMS C1. UH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF. UH, UM, ANDREW, ARE THEY MR. RIVERA? THEY ARE READY TO GO. SURE. OUR COMMISSIONER IS ON AND VARIOUS STAFF IS AVAILABLE, UH, STARTING WITH THE MR. JOHN. OKAY. ARE THEY GONNA, UH, MR. JOHNSON, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION? YES, THIS IS KEVIN JOHNSON WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION TO SHARE. OKAY, THANK YOU. I'LL WAIT FOR IT TO COME UP ON THE SCREEN. I WAS TALKING WITH MY TEAM AND I THINK WE'RE SEEING ABOUT A 32ND LAG BETWEEN OUR VIDEO FEED AND THE AUDIO. SO I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR ANY CHOPPINESS THAT, THAT WE'LL EXPERIENCE HERE. UM, [00:30:01] BUT I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES. YEAH. WE SEE THE, UH, THE FRONT PAGE THAT IF YOU NEED HELP, UH, LET LET US KNOW. OKAY. UM, I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUES, JONATHAN PEARSON, THIS EVENING FROM STUDIO EIGHT ARCHITECTS. HE'S A PROJECT ARCHITECT ON THIS PROJECT AND ALSO GO BACK TO RONNIE. HE IS THE PRINCIPAL AT BOTH CONSULTING AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FIRM ON OUR TEAM. AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE OF PRELIMINARY DESIGN UPDATES FOR THE AUTHORITY ART CENTER REPLACEMENT PROJECT. UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU ON THE COMMISSION WHO WERE THERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT WE CAME TO YOU AFTER A PLANNING AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PHASE, AS WE WERE SEEKING COUNCIL'S APPROVAL TO RELOCATE THIS FACILITY TO A NEW SITE AT BUTLER SHORES PARKLAND, WHICH IS JUST ACROSS LAMAR BOULEVARD AND NORTH OF TUMI ROAD ON THE LAKE FRONTAGE, UM, THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. AND IT WAS APPROVED WITH A FEW AMENDMENTS ON ITEM. UM, SOME OF WHICH WERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND I HAVE THOSE THAT, SO JUST TO REFRESH THE MEMORIES, I'LL READ THOSE OFF BECAUSE THEY'RE RELATED TO OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT, BUT, UM, YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY SUGGESTED THAT, UM, AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT, WE INCORPORATE A PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT STRATEGY FOR THE ENTIRE COMPLEX THAT CONSIDERS, UM, ON AND OFF STREET PARKING AND UNDERSHOOTS PARKING SUPPLY AND INSUFFICIENT. THAT'S THE PRESENTATION SUPPOSED TO BE CHANGING? NOT YET WE CAN STAY ON THAT SLIDE FOR NOW, SORRY. UH, UNDERSHOOTING THE PARKING SUPPLY AND ANTICIPATION OF TRANSIT INVESTMENT. UH, YOU ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT ANY STRUCTURED PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT, THE INNOVATIVE EMPLOYEE LEAD STRATEGY, UM, CHARGED FOR PARKING, AND WE'LL SPEAK MORE TO THAT IN THE PRESENTATION. AND ALSO THAT THE COMPLEX BE DEVELOPED AS AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION HUB AND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZE SPACE DEDICATED TO THE AUTOMOBILE USE. UM, AND SOME OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE ADOPTED BY COUNCIL WERE, UM, PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE SITE, BOTH FROM TUMI ROAD AND WEST RIVERSIDE DRIVE, WHICH WAS A RECOMMENDATION AND PLANNING COMMISSION, OR I'M SORRY, THE DESIGN COMMISSION. SO JUST WANTED TO POINT THOSE OUT TO REFRESH MEMORIES AND GIVE AN INDICATION AS TO WHY WE'RE HERE. UM, WE'RE SEEKING APPROVAL TO MOVE FULLY INTO THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PHASES OF THE PROJECT AFTER COMPLETING THIS PRELIMINARY DESIGN PHASE UPDATE. AND WE'LL SHOW YOU A FEW ALTERNATIVES THAT, UH, COUNSEL HAD ALSO DIRECTED US TO LOOK INTO BEFORE MOVING FORWARD. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND IMAGINE YOU'RE SEEING THE SITE MAP IN CONTEXT LIKE THIS JUST PUTS THE PROJECT SITE IN PERSPECTIVE WITH THE CURRENT LOCATION OF THE JOY ART CENTER, WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF DAWSON ROAD AND BARTON SPRINGS, THAT LOCATION, THE PURPLE ASTERISK, THE NEW LOCATION IS ON THE BUTLER SHORES PARKLAND SITE AT THE YELLOW ASTERISK. UM, JUST TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF USAGE ON THIS PARKLAND SITE, THE THREE BALL FIELDS ON THE WESTERN MOST EDGE OF THE SITE, UM, OUR LITTLE LEAGUE SOFTBALL FIELDS THAT WILL REMAIN IN USE BY THE SOUTH AUSTIN LITTLE LEAGUE, UH, THE PROJECT SITE FOR THE DOOR. HE IS REALLY KIND OF IN THE CENTER OF THIS PARCEL ON THE TWO SOFTBALL FIELDS THAT ARE ORIENTED IN THE SAME DIRECTIONS, THE NORTHEAST. UM, ALSO ON THE SIDE, ON THE NORTHERN EDGE, CLOSER TO RIVERSIDE DRIVE IS, UH, THE PARK'S MAIN OFFICE. AND THEN THE ZACK THEATER IS SITUATED ON THE EAST AND SOUTH EDGE OF THE SITE. AND YOU ALSO ARE LIKELY AWARE OF THE PUB THAT WAS JUST APPROVED AT THE, UM, FORMER SCHLOTZKY'S LOCATION. THAT'S RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF TUMI ROAD IN SOUTH LAMAR BOULEVARD. UM, WE HAVE BEEN IN COORDINATION WITH THAT PROJECT TEAM AND HAVE WORKED A SHARED PARKING ARRANGEMENT, UM, FOR 80 SPACES AS, UH, TO SUPPORT THE DOHERTY ARTS CENTER. GOTCHA. FIVE, PLEASE. THIS SLIDE SPEAKS TO PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION. SO LIKE I MENTIONED, THEY DID APPROVE THIS LIKE FOR THE NEW DOOR YARD CENTER IN MAY OF 2019. AND THE RENDERING ON THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE IMAGE THAT CAME OUT OF THAT PLANNING PROCESS, UM, WHICH WAS REALLY GEARED TOWARD FEASIBILITY OF THE SITE TO, TO FIT BOTH THE FOOTPRINT OF THE DOOR YARD CENTER AND ACCOMMODATE THE VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO, AND FROM THE SIDE. AND LIKE I MENTIONED, WITH THAT APPROVAL, THEY ALSO ASKED US TO LOOK INTO A FEW ALTERNATIVES AND THOSE ARE ENUMERATED HERE ON THIS SLIDE, UM, TO THE CONVENTION FOR NUMBERING KIND OF TIES TO THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'LL SHOW YOU LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. SO IF POSSIBLE, UM, IT COULD BE HELPFUL TO TRY TO REMEMBER OPTIONS ONE, TWO AND THREE HERE. OPTION ONE IS A SCENARIO IN WHICH THE NEW DECK AND THE EXISTING PART MAIN OFFICE REMAIN ON SITE. UM, MUCH LIKE YOU'RE SEEING ON THIS SCREEN HERE. AND AGAIN, DEPARTMENT OFFICE HAS SHOWN IT, UH, [00:35:01] AS THE BLUE RECTANGLE OPTION TWO WAS ONE IN WHICH THE, THE NEW JORDY ART CENTER WOULD BE BUILT ON THIS SITE, BUT THAT THE NEW PART MAIN OFFICE WOULD ALSO BE CONSTRUCTED TOGETHER, UM, WITH THE DIRTY AS ONE PROJECT. AND I DID JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT PART IS NOT FUNDED TO CONSTRUCT A NEW MAIN OFFICE. UM, BUT WE DID LOOK INTO A SCENARIO THAT SHOWS THAT, UH, AT COUNCIL DIRECTION AND THEN THE THIRD OPTION SIMILARLY IS UNFUNDED. UM, BUT THEY ASKED THAT WE LOOK AT A NEW DOOR TO THE ART CENTER ON THE SITE AND THAT, UH, THE EXISTING, PARDON ME, AN OFFICE WOULD BE RELOCATED TO ANOTHER SITE AND THE BUILDING WOULD BE REPURPOSED. IN ADDITION, UH, THEY ASKED US TO LOOK AT A CONSOLIDATED PARKING SOLUTION FOR THE ARTS DISTRICT. UM, THAT'S A PARTIALLY UNFUNDED REQUEST OF COUNCIL, UM, AND THAT THE BOND FUNDING THAT SUPPORTS THE, THE ARTS CENTER, YOU KNOW, WAS NOT, UH, DIRECTED TO PICK UP FUNDING OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT SCOPE FOR THE FACILITY ITSELF. BUT WE DO WANT TO PURSUE, YOU KNOW, THE BEST COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE APPROACH HERE. SO, UM, THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT WITH THE ALTERNATIVES THAT YOU'LL SEE AND, UH, RELATED TO THE UNFUNDED REQUESTS, WE ARE OFF THE DIRECTED TO SEEK ALTERNATIVE FINANCING MECHANISMS AND INTEREST IN PHILANTHROPY FROM THE COMMUNITY IS, ARE BOTH, UM, CONVERSATIONS THAT OUR DEPARTMENT HAS ENGAGED IN WITH, ON MULTIPLE FRONTS. UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WOULD THE DIRECTION TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY REMOVING OR DEMOLISHING THE EXISTING CARD MAIN OFFICE? WE ALSO JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT IT'S HISTORIC CONTEXT. UH, THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1959. IT HAD A LATER EDITION BUILT ONTO IT IN 76. UM, BUT THE BUILDING SERVED AS THE FIRST PERMANENT HOME FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND AS SUCH, IT'S GOT A HIGH DEGREE OF CULTURAL INTEGRITY AND ALSO ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY THAT MAKES IT ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER. UM, SO THIS PROJECT HAS A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS AND CONSIDERATIONS, BUT THIS IS DEFINITELY ONE THAT, UH, INFORMS, YOU KNOW, PARTS PREFERRED APPROACH AND MOVING FORWARD. UM, THE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT'S IDENTITY IS REALLY, UM, CENTRAL TO THE CITY AND THAT LOCATION IS IMPORTANT FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE OPERATING FROM. UM, BUT AGAIN, WE WILL TALK ABOUT MANY OTHER CONSIDERATION, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO IN THE PRESENTATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY SEEING A STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, UH, SNAPSHOT, AND THIS IS JUST FROM OUR MOST RECENT ROUND OF, UH, PRELIMINARY DESIGN WORK. BUT THIS IS REALLY JUST TO POINT OUT THAT WE'VE ENGAGED ON MANY LEVELS. UM, MOST ALL IN VIRTUAL FORUMS, WE'VE HAD CITY-WIDE OPEN HOUSE MEETINGS. WE'VE ALSO HAD TARGETED SMALL GROUP MEETINGS WITH THE SPECIFIC STAKEHOLDERS OF THE DECK PROJECT TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT OUR TEAM UNDERSTANDS THE NUANCES OF HOW SPACES ARE USED AND ACCESSED. UM, AND THESE WERE ALL VERY INFORMATIVE TO THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU TONIGHT. WE'VE ALSO BEEN, UM, COORDINATING WITH OUR PARTNERS, BOTH AT THE CITY AND, UM, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE TRAIL FOUNDATION. AND OF COURSE OUR NEIGHBOR AT THE SITE IS THAT SCOTT, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, THAT ENGAGEMENT PROCESS INFORMED THE PROJECT MISSION STATEMENT, WHICH I WON'T READ, BUT IT REALLY JUST INTENDS TO MERGE THE MISSION OF THE JORDY ART CENTER WOULD HAVE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UM, TO SUPPORT ARTS ACCESS FOR ALL AND TO CREATE COMMUNITY IN DOING SO. UM, YOU'RE SEEING FIVE WORDS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN. THOSE ARE REALLY THE CORE TENANTS OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'LL REVISIT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASE. AND I DID WANT TO POINT OUT ONE SPECIFICALLY IN TERMS OF THE STAINABLE. UM, WE DO HAVE SOME AMBITIOUS SUSTAINABILITY GOALS FOR THIS PROJECT. WE'RE LOOKING TO DELIVER A LEAD GOLD CERTIFIED FACILITY AND ALSO, UM, PARDES FIRST WELL CERTIFIED FACILITY, WHICH SPEAKS TO THE HEALTH OF THE INTERIOR, UM, QUALITY OF THE SPACES AND THE OCCUPANTS THAT ARE USING IT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I BELIEVE THAT TAKES US TO THE SITE CONSTRAINTS MAP, AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JONATHAN PEARSON WITH STUDIO EIGHT, TO WALK US THROUGH THE SITE AND THE FOUR OPTIONS THAT I SPOKE TO. WELL, HOWEVER YOU WANT, UM, JONATHAN PEARSON FROM STUDIO EIGHT, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KEVIN GO BACK AND BE PRESENT TONIGHT. UH, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROCESSES THAT WE'VE UNDERTAKEN TO COME ABOUT THE DIFFERENT SIDE PLANNING OPTIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED BY CITY COUNCIL, UH, AND, AND TALK ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF HOW IT WENT FROM THE 2019 PLAN TO WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY. PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO START IS TO TALK ABOUT THE CONSTRAINTS THAT, UH, BISECT THE SITE. AND SO [00:40:01] WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN IS A NUMBER OF GREEN CIRCLES AND SOME THINKING PURPLE, UH, HALF YOUR FILL AREAS, THE GREEN CIRCLES ARE LIVE OAK HERITAGE LIVE OAKS THAT ARE VERY BEAUTIFUL AND, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT ABSOLUTE AMENITIES OF SITE. AND SO WE WANT TO PLAN AROUND THEM. YOU'LL ALSO SEE A NUMBER OF GREEN DASH LINES, UH, CIRCLES. THOSE REPRESENT COTTONWOODS THAT ARE MORE TOWARDS THE END OF THEIR LIFESPAN, BUT ARE STILL SIGNIFICANT TREES. AND WE'D LIKE TO, UH, INCLUDE THEM IN OUR PLANNING AS WELL WITH THE HOPES THAT MAYBE THEY'LL CONTINUE TO LIVE, UH, AND SUPPORT THE SITE. THERE'S ALSO SOME SMALLER, UH, PECANS AND, AND OTHER SPECIMEN TREES THAT DIVE THE SITE, BUT REALLY THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST MOTIVATIONS IN HOW WE WERE ABLE TO PLACE THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, UH, THE OTHER CONSTRAINTS OF THE UNDERGROUND UTILITY. UH, YOU'RE SEEING THREE DIFFERENT COLORS. I APOLOGIZE IF YOU'RE COLOR BLIND, UH, BUT I WILL DO MY BEST TO DESCRIBE THEIR POSITION AS WELL. UH, THE MOST, UM, KIND OF IN THE WAY LET'S CALL THEM ARE THE ONES ALONG TUMI ROAD AND JUST NORTH OF TUMI ROAD. UH, THESE ARE CLOSE TO THE SURFACE, UH, WASTEWATER AND WATER UTILITIES. THESE ARE TRANSMISSION LINES ACTUALLY. UM, AND THEY REALLY PREVENT US FROM PUTTING ANYTHING, UH, IN THOSE AREAS. SO, UH, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE NORMAL SUBTRACTOR E THE GUIDELINES WHERE THE BUILDINGS HE PLAYS CLOSE TO THE ROAD, THAT THAT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE ALONG TO ME BECAUSE OF THESE MYTHS, THERE'S A PURPLE, UH, BILL THAT'S RUNNING NORTH, SOUTH EAST SITE. I REPRESENTED DRAINAGES AND THEN THE PAIR OF BOX CULVERTS THAT, UH, COME FROM BARTON SPRINGS ROAD AND GO UP TOWARDS THE LAKE NORTH TOWARDS THE LAKE. UH, THOSE ARE ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE CANNOT BUILD OVER THE POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD MOVE THEM, BUT THAT WOULD BE A HUGE STRAIN ON THE PROJECT BUDGET TO, TO SPEND OUR TIME AND ENERGY MOVING THEM. THE THIRD ONE, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. UM, WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE TO EXTEND, UH, NEED A MOTION SECOND, UH, AND PROPOSE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS. DO WE WANT TO GIVE THEM 10 MINUTES MORE? UH, CAN I HEAR A MOTION? OKAY. AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER, UM, YOU GUYS MOVE AROUND YOU AND IT'S PLUTO. OKAY. THEY NEED A SUPER MAJORITY TO GIVE THEM MORE TIME. SO, UM, LET'S SEE HERE. WHAT DO WE HAVE? ALL RIGHT. IT'S UNANIMOUS. OKAY. SO WE'RE GIVING THEM 10 MORE MINUTES TO FINISH UP. YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ALL THAT TIME IF YOU DON'T NEED IT, THOUGH. ALL RIGHT, PLEASE CONTINUE. WELL, YEAH, WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO KEEP IT. SO, UH, THE LAST ONE IS, UH, THE, UH, TRANSMISSION LINE THAT GOES DEEP UNDER LADY BIRD LAKE, AND WE CAN POTENTIALLY BUILD, UH, OVER TOP OF IT, ALTHOUGH WE'RE GOING TO TRY NOT TO, UH, THE SAME ONE THAT LIBRARIES ON NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, IF KEVIN MENTIONED, UH, THERE ARE FOUR OPTIONS, UH, OPTIONS, ONE A AND ONE B MAINTAIN THE PARK STAYS IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION, THE CURRENT BUILDING, UH, AND THEN A NEW FACILITY, A NEW DOHERTY FACILITY IS BUILT, UH, ON THE SITE SOMEWHERE, OPTION ONE A SHOWS IT, UH, JUST KIND OF TO THE SOUTH, IT'S KIND OF MATCHES THE 2019 PLANNING JUST IN A DIFFERENT FORM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO STILL SEE THE SCREEN. UM, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BACK ON, UH, OPTION TWO, UH, INTENSIVE THE DOOR. HE GOES, I'M SORRY THAT THE DOHERTY STAYS ON SITE AND THE PARDES MAIN OFFICE GOES AWAY FROM ITS CURRENT LOCATION AND GETS RE GETS MOVED, RELOCATED DOWN TO THE SOUTH PART OF THE SITE. AND OPTION THREE SHOWS THAT IT JUST GOES AWAY COMPLETELY AND WOULD MOVE OFF SITE. SO, UH, THERE'S KIND OF A LOT TO UNPACK IN ME. SO I'M GOING TO TRY AND GO THROUGH THEM QUICKLY. UH, NEXT SLIDE. SO OPTION ONE, A, AS I MENTIONED, KIND OF MATCHES THE 2019 PLANNING TO A POINT I THERE'S MOSTLY FACING TO ME, BUT THERE'S A KIND OF A FRONT DOOR ELEMENT THAT'S TIED TO AN ARTS PROVENANCE, UH, THAT LINKS DIRECTLY TO ZACH'S GOT THEATER AND TO THE DROP-OFF THAT'S RIGHT TO THE, BETWEEN PART AND ZACK RIGHT NOW, THE THING WITH THIS IS THERE'D BE AN UNDERGROUND CIVIC PARKING PLAZA, UH, THAT COMES OFF OF RIVERSIDE AND WOULD KIND OF BE THE FRONT DOOR FOR THE BUILDING, BUT THERE'D ALSO BE A SECONDARY FRONT DOOR, UH, TO THE SOUTH, ALONG TO ME, UH, THE STUDIO, THERE'S KIND OF FIVE BIG PROGRAM ELEMENTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN ALL OF THESE. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THEY'RE ALL THE SAME SIZE IN EACH ONE. THE ONLY THING THAT MIGHT CHANGE SLIGHTLY IS THE AMOUNT OF CIRCULATION TO LINK THEM TOGETHER. THOSE FIVE ELEMENTS ARE THE GALLERY, THE STUDIOS, THE SCHOOL, UH, THE THEATERS. AND OF COURSE THE OUTDOOR SPACE. THAT'S THE, PROBABLY THE MOST PROMINENT FEATURE OF THIS, UH, OPPORTUNITY WITH BUTLER PARK IS THE ABILITY TO CONNECT THE ARTS BUILDING, UH, WITH THE LARGER PARK, THE OUTDOOR PROGRAMMING, UH, AND JUST KIND OF THE ENTIRE CITY AS IT WERE. SO OPTION ONE IS, IS KIND OF WHAT WE STARTED WITH IN 2019. WE JUST RE-IMAGINED THE SHAPE. UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, OPTION ONE B UH, WHICH IS THE PREFERRED OPTION FROM PARD, UH, SHOWS THE [00:45:01] BUILDING SLID CLOSER TO LADY BIRD LAKE KIND OF BEING AT THE END OF THE AXIS OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE. UH, IT HAS A LITTLE MORE PROMINENT THE THING THAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS, AS WE WERE SHOWING THE PARKING GARAGE WITH THE GREEN ROOF, THAT WOULD TAKE THE PLACE OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS A TRULY DISTRICT PARKING SOLUTION. IT CAN SERVE BOTH ZACK, THE DOHERTY PART, IF IT REMAINS IN PLACE, UM, AND THE PARK AS WELL. UH, IT, IT ALSO OFFERS THE MOST FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF ACCESS. UH, I THINK THE THING THAT'S ALSO KEY TO THIS PARTICULAR SOLUTION IS THAT IT REALLY BECOMES ICONIC IN THE CITY. UH, IT'S NOT OVERPOWERING, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S CLOSE TO THE TRAIL IS REALLY NOT AS OVERPOWERING THERE, BUT IT IS, WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF VISIBILITY, UH, IN THE FORM FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, AS OPPOSED TO BEING TUCKED BEHIND, UH, THE EXISTING BUILDINGS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO OPTION TWO PROVIDES US THE ABILITY TO TAKE THE EXISTING CARD FACILITY AWAY AND PUT IT IN A NEW BUILDING TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE. UM, THIS ALLOWS US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE WONDERFUL SIGHTINGS THAT PART HAS RIGHT NOW. UH, AND AGAIN, PUT MORE GREEN SPACE UP TOWARDS THE TRAIL. UH, THE, THE DROP-OFF WOULD BE MAINTAINED, UH, EITHER TO THE SOUTH OR TO THE EAST OFF RIVERSIDE DRIVE, UH, AND ALSO OPTION TWO AND OPTION THREE, A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY OF PUTTING THE PARKING GARAGE, EITHER UNDER THE NEW DOHERTY OR UNDER THE CIVIC CLOSET, UH, BOTH ARE OPTIONS, BUT WE WOULD NOT DO BOTH WE'D PICK ONE OR THE OTHER. UH, THE, THE KEY THING WITH OPTION TWO IS THE COURTYARD SPACE THAT IT CREATES OR COURTYARD SPACES THAT IT CREATES CARVED AROUND THE BEAUTIFUL LIVE OAK. UH, I SHOULD'VE POINTED OUT WITH ONE B THAT THERE'S ZERO IMPACT ON HERITAGE TREES, UH, WITH OPTIONS TWO AND THREE WE'LL WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE A HERITAGE STREET TO MAKE IT WORK. OPTION THREE, PLEASE, OR NEXT SLIDE. SO OPTION THREE IS VERY SIMILAR TO OPTION TWO, THE DIFFERENCES THAT WE KEPT THE ORIGINAL PARK BUILDING WE'VE TORN DOWN THE ADDITION, AND WE TRIED TO INTEGRATE THE DORY TO IT. UM, THIS IS A NOD TO THE, THE BEAUTY OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING AND TRYING TO REPURPOSE IT TOWARDS, UH, THE BACK'S PURPOSES. IT ALLOWS US TO KIND OF SHIFT THE BUILDING UP ON SITES AND SEE THERE'S MORE GENEROUS SPACE TO THE SOUTH LAWN TEAMING. UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO REAL QUICK, AND I'LL HAND IT TO BEAU BACKSTOP FOR A SECOND. THIS, THIS SHOWS THE POTENTIAL GARAGE LOCATIONS. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT IN THE BLUE HIGHLIGHT AND THE PINK DASH LINE SEEMED TO REPRESENT THE ACCESS. UH, AND DROP-OFF POINT, UM, AS I SAID, OPTION ONE A, WE IMAGINED THAT THE GARAGE IS JUST THE NORTH UNDER THE ARTS DISTRICT CLOSET, OFTEN ONE D TO THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE, BUT IT'S ACCESSIBLE FROM BOTH SIDES AND IT'S A GREEN ROOF AND KIND OF COVERED OVER OR COMPLETELY VARIED OPTIONS. TWO AND THREE, WE HAVE THE OPTION TO EITHER PUT IT UNDER THE BUILDING OR UNDER THE ARTS DISTRICT. AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER, TO GO BACK TO KIND OF SPEAK ABOUT THE, UM, HOW WE'RE APPROACHING THAT. HI, EVERYONE, REBECCA TORONTO, HERE WITH BOTH CONSULTING. UH, IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE 14, PLEASE. SO I'M GOING TO FLY THROUGH THIS. I KNOW WE'RE SHORT ON TIME AND I'LL KNOW, OBVIOUSLY JOB, ANY QUESTIONS YOU CAN, WE CAN, UH, UH, GET THOSE AT THE END. SO FOR OUR ANALYSIS, UH, WE BROUGHT ON NELSON NYGAARD TO HELP US WITH THE SHARED PARKING MODEL. UH, AS, AS KEVIN MENTIONED IT EARLY ON IN THIS, WE DEFINITELY LOOKED AT THIS AS A, AS A DISTRICT WIDE APPROACH. UH, OBVIOUSLY FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, WE WANT TO RIGHT SIZE PARKING AND LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF AUTO CENTRIC SOLUTIONS OUT HERE. UH, AND THEN FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND COST PERSPECTIVE, WE ALSO, I MEAN THAT THAT'S A HUGE BONUS TO REDUCE THE COST OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF NOT HAVING TO BUILD AS MUCH PARKING AS OTHERWISE WOULD BE NEEDED. SO OUR FIRST STEP WAS TO EVALUATE WHAT WAS THE EXISTING INVENTORY IN THIS, UH, CALL IT THE CULTURAL DISTRICT OR, OR ARTS DISTRICT THAT'S BEING CREATED IN THIS AREA. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, ON, ON THE D WE HAVE IDENTIFIED, UH, THE SCHLOTZSKY'S PUD, UH, AND THEIR COMMITMENT THROUGH THAT, UH, ZONING CASE OF PROVIDING 80 SPACES, UH, THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE USED AS PART OF THE DECK PROJECT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND SO, UH, THESE ARE THE THREE SCENARIOS THAT WE LOOKED AT FROM A PARKING PERSPECTIVE, SCENARIO, ONE BEING A BASE BASELINE WEEKDAY, WHICH IS AN 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM KIND OF SCENARIO WITH TYPICAL PROGRAMMING. UH, SCENARIO TWO IS AGAIN, THE 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM, TYPICAL PROGRAMMING, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDED, UM, THE WEEK, DAY, EVENING EVENTS. AND THEN SCENARIO THREE IS YOUR CULMINATION OF, UH, THE ZACK, THE DAC, BOTH BEING ACTIVATED, THE ADJACENT ACTIVE USE WAS BEING ACTIVATED AND THEN POTENTIALLY ANY OTHER LARGE-SCALE EVENTS GOING ON IN THE CITY. SO WHEN WE LOOK ACROSS THESE THREE SCENARIOS, THE MOST COMMONLY OCCURRING SCENARIO THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO DESIGN FOR WAS THE WEEKDAY WITH AN EVENT [00:50:01] SCENARIO TWO. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THESE PEAK WEEK, DAY, EVENING EVENTS. AND WHEN WE SAY EVENT, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL PROGRAM MIGHT BE A SMALL ART GALLERY GOING ON, OR A POTTERY CLASS OR SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE EVENING. IT WASN'T ONCE A MONTH, OR ONCE EVERY OTHER MONTH WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TWO OR THREE TIMES A WEEK THAT'S GOING ON. AND SO THAT'S WHY, HONESTLY IT WAS MORE APPROPRIATE TO, UH, DESIGN AND PLAN FOR SCENARIO TWO, AS OPPOSED TO SCENARIO ONE OR SCENARIO THREE, SCENARIO THREE, BEING THE, UM, ONCE EVERY NOW AND AGAIN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WHICH WILL, THOSE WOULD BE, UM, PLANNED FOR IT THROUGH AN EVENT MANAGEMENT PLAN, AS WE SEE WITH OTHER EVENTS IN THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND SO WITH THIS SLIDE, UH, WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS KIND OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESS IN PDM. UH, WE UNDERSTAND FULLY UNDERSTAND THE GOALS OF THE CITY TO, UH, REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES ON THE ROADWAY TO RIGHT-SIDE PARKING AND NOT HAVE A RESERVED PARKING SPACE FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON FOR EVERY SINGLE USE. AND SO THERE WAS A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE, UH, NOT ONLY FOR THE DECK, BUT THE DAX, ZACK, THE PART OFFICE BUILDING, UH, THE ACTIVE USES, UH, AROUND THE AREA, UH, TO REALLY BRING TOGETHER A UNIFIED, UH, PARKING SOLUTION TO AGAIN, UH, RIGHT-SIZE IT TO MINIMIZE IMPACT ON ENVIRONMENT AND MINIMIZE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. UH, ASIDE FROM SHARED PARKING, WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED, UH, TDM MEASURES, UH, THAT WOULD, UH, FURTHER REDUCE SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES. UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN ALREADY PARTICIPATES IN TRANSIT PASS PROGRAMS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. UH, SO EMPLOYEES OF THE DECK WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THAT IN GETTING, UH, SUBSIDIZED OR FREE TRANSIT PASSES TO PROMOTE BUS USE, UH, AS WE ALL KNOW, PROJECT CONNECT AND, UM, THE MOBILITY BOND ARE GOING TO HAVE VERY LARGE IMPACTS ON OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM FOR CAPITAL METRO LONG SOUTH DAMAR. UH, THERE WILL BE A BRAND NEW STOP, WRITE IT TO ME AND, UH, SOUTH LAMAR. AND SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL PROVIDE, UH, ADDED, UM, ON SLIDE 18, SORRY, AS I'M SORRY. I BELIEVE I'M ON SLIDE 16. UM, AND SO, UM, SO YEAH, SO THOSE, THOSE WERE KIND OF THE DIFFERENT MEASURES THAT FROM THE SITE DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, WE ALSO LOOKED AT WHAT CAN WE DO TO FURTHER PROMOTE, UH, PEOPLE TO NOT DRIVE THEIR CARS, OBVIOUSLY WITH A USE LIKE THE BACK PEOPLE ARE BRINGING IN LARGE ART SUPPLIES, IT'S DIFFICULT TO HAUL THOSE AROUND IN A BUS OR ON A BIKE. AND SO WITH THIS NEW DOCK FACILITY, UM, IT IS, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT INCLUDING STORAGE FACILITIES, UH, STORAGE CUBBIES, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN LEAVE THEIR EQUIPMENT AND THEIR SUPPLIES AT THE DOCK AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO HAUL IT AROUND. AND SO THAT WILL FURTHER PROMOTE, UH, THE USE OF MULTIMODAL, UM, UH, TRANSPORTATION. AND SO, UM, I'M SORRY, WHOEVER'S CONTROLLING THE SLIDES. I'M ON SLIDE 17. YEAH. SO SARAH, WE'VE GOT TO GO AHEAD AND WRAP IT UP HERE. SO IF YOU GOT SOME CLOSING REMARKS AND THEN WE CAN, WE'RE GOING TO GO AROUND AND ASK QUESTIONS. UM, SO TO CLOSE OUT, GO BACK, I'LL JUMP IN AND JUST MAKE A FEW REMARKS. AND IF WE COULD MAYBE JUST END ON SLIDE 22, I THINK THAT'LL REINFORCE THESE COMMENTS, BUT BASICALLY WHEN CONSIDERING THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS OF VICTOR FACILITY AND STAFF AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PROJECT, AND WHEN WEIGHING THE POTENTIAL RISKS TO BE BEING THE PROJECT TEAM PREFERS OPTION ONE B AS JONATHAN WAS DESCRIBING EARLIER, THE UNIQUE ONE THAT, UM, THE BUILDING WEST OF THOSE EASEMENTS AND CREATES THAT STRONG RELATIONSHIP TO THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL. IT ALSO OFFERS A PARKING SOLUTION THAT DOES NOT ENCROACH WITHIN THE ZACK LEASE BOUNDARY. AND IT IS THE LOAN OPTION THAT MEETS THE COUNCIL DIRECTION TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE FACILITY, BOTH FROM TWO ME AND RIVERSIDE DRIVE. SO ULTIMATELY IF THE COMMISSION WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MERITS OF THIS TEAM, WE WERE LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO PROCEED WITH THAT DIRECTION. UM, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS AND WE'D BE OPEN TO ANY FEEDBACK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTS TO SHARE WITH THE TEAM AND COUNCIL AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THIS REALLY GOOD PRESS AND STATION, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. SO, UM, WE'LL JUST, I'M LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM, UH, COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS. SO, UH, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START. UH, I THINK THERE IS A SLIDE I'D LIKE TO ASK WHAT, UH, THAT HAD THE TABLE THAT WE DIDN'T GET TO, UH, AT THE END OF THE TRANS, UH, TDM PROPOSAL. IT HAD SEVERAL, IT WAS LIKE IN A GRID PATTERN. I THINK IT WAS MAYBE PAGE, UH, 17 OR 18. COULD WE PULL THAT UP? CORRECT. UH, CAN SOMEBODY SPEAK TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE ON FIVE 17? [00:55:02] WELL BACK, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE? YEAH. SO THIS IS BOB. I'LL TAKE IT OUT. SORRY. I WAS UNMUTING MYSELF. UM, SO THE, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS FOR THE FOUR OPTIONS, UH, WHAT THESE NET NEW SPACES AND INFORMAL PARKING SPACES. SO FROM A TDM PERSPECTIVE, UH, WITHOUT IMPLEMENTING ANY KIND OF SHARED PARKING MODEL OR TDM, UH, THE REQUIRED TOTAL SPACES BETWEEN THE VARIOUS USES AND KEEP IN MIND, WE DID NOT ANALYZE THE DECK ISOLATED. SO ANYTHING THAT I SAY TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THIS QUOTE UNQUOTE CULTURAL DISTRICT THAT'S BEEN THAT'S BEING CREATED. AND SO THE TOTAL PARKING SPACES THAT YOU SEE IN THE RED BOX IS WHAT WE'VE DETERMINED, UTILIZING SHARED PARKING AND TDM MEASURES IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF SPACES THAT ARE NEEDED A COST OF, UH, FOR EACH ONE USES. AND THEN FROM THAT EXISTING INVENTORY, BASED ON THE DECONSTRUCTION OF EITHER ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE LOSE, SOME OF THAT EXIST FOR HAVING TO ADD SOME NET NEW SPACES TO REPLACE WHAT'S BEING LOST AND THEN GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE ORANGE AND THE RED BOXES MEAN FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, CAN SOMEBODY SPEAK TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION AND WHY THEY RECOMMENDED IT? YEAH, YES. I CAN SPEAK TO THAT ONE. UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDED AGAINST OPTION ONE B BECAUSE OF ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE TRAIL. UM, UH, HELPFUL GRAPHIC TO SHOW WHILE WE TALKED ABOUT IT MIGHT BE SLIDE 19. THIS WAS A SECTION WE PUT TOGETHER AFTER THAT DISCUSSION TO MAYBE BETTER ILLUSTRATE WHAT THE SITE PLAN DOESN'T SHOW, BUT THEY'VE, THEY FELT THAT THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING THERE, UM, ENCROACHED UPON THE TRAIL TOO AGGRESSIVELY. UM, ONE THING I DID WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT WE, WE TOOK A PHOTO FROM THE TRAIL IN THIS LOCATION. THERE IS A VERY FOREST, A VERY WOODED BUFFER. UM, AND THIS SITE IN THIS AREA ALSO OF ABOUT 23 FEET ABOVE THE GRADE OF THE TRAIL. UM, SO I DID JUST WANT TO ILLUSTRATE THAT RELATIONSHIP. OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE MAIN REASON THEY RECOMMENDED ONE A YES, YES. FOR THE TRAIL RELATIONSHIP AND MAXIMIZING THE OPEN SPACE. OKAY. UH, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, UH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS, UH, SEE, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER. DID YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 17, PLEASE? UM, WAS THERE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DESIGN COMMISSION? YES. THE DESIGN COMMISSION WROTE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR ALL SITE PLAN OPTIONS. THEY, THEY DIDN'T BACK ONE SPECIFICALLY, BUT THEY SUGGESTED THAT WHATEVER COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE PROJECT TEAMS SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO LIMIT THE INTERRUPTION OF THE PARKLAND BASED, UM, EITHER BY THE HITLER ROADWAY OR, OR SIDEWALKS THAT INTERRUPT THE CONTINUOUS GREEN SPACE. THANKS. AND, UH, LOOKING AT, UH, WOULDN'T BE ON THIS SLIDE. UH, THERE APPEARS TO BE, UH, IT APPEARS THAT IT CREATES A PUBLIC SPACE THAT IS TO THE EAST OF THE NEW DOHERTY CENTER AND IN BETWEEN THAT AND THE EXISTING PARK HEADQUARTERS. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. IT'S GOT A CIRCLE, UM, IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO, IS THAT A, IS THAT A LARGE PUBLIC SPACE AND IS THE IDEA THAT THAT WOULD BE USED FOR, UH, SOME SPECIFIC OR MORE GENERAL PUBLIC PURPOSES YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT IT IS PUBLIC SPACE. IT'S INTENDED TO BE A MORE, UM, FORMAL PROMINENCE TO THE PRIMARY ENTRY OF THE SPACE. WE, WE DIDN'T DETAIL A SPECIFIC USE OF THAT GREEN, ALTHOUGH THERE'S THE RENDERING ON SLIDE 21 THAT SHOWS THAT BEING A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR INCORPORATION OF PUBLIC ART. UM, THERE'S ALSO A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PROJECT, HAVE A NATURAL RAIN GARDEN, UH, IN THIS LOCATION, WHICH COULD BE A PROMINENT SUSTAINABILITY ASPECT OF THE PROJECT. UM, AND I BELIEVE UNDER ONE DAY IS I WAS LOOKING AT, UH, UM, THE RENDERINGS, UH, THAT MOVE THE, UH, THE NEW PARKING, THE UNDERGROUND PARKING TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SITE WITH ACCESS ON TO ME AS WELL AS ACCESS FROM, UH, RIVERSIDE. IS THAT CORRECT? AND IS THAT THE ONLY OPTION THAT DOES THAT THAT'S CORRECT. [01:00:01] THE UNIQUE OPTION IN THAT GARAGE ACCESS COULD BE FROM BOTH RESTAURANTS, RIGHT? UH, THE ONLY OPTION THAT, UH, ENVISIONED, UH, UH, GREEN SPACE ABOVE THE PARKING, OR WERE THERE OPTIONS FOR THAT ENTER ALL FOUR, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT THE PARKING SOLUTION AND ALL FOURS, THESE WOULDN'T BE UNDERGROUND. UM, BUT ONE B AGAIN IS UNIQUE AND THAT, UM, THE LOCATION OF THE GARAGE IS PULLED CLOSER TO, TO ME ROAD. AND WE WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IN THAT LOCATION TO BUILD KIND OF A LARGER, MORE EFFICIENT FLOOR PLATE FOR THE STRUCTURED PARKING, I MEAN, DECK ENTIRELY OVER THE TOP OF THAT WITH GREEN ARTS. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS JONATHAN. SORRY TO ANSWER THAT TO BE WITH THE DISTRICT, UH, WITH ONE A, LET'S SAY, UH, WE STILL HAVE A GREEN SPACE ABOVE THE PARKING GARAGE. UH, IF WE PUT IT IN, IN THE SPOT BETWEEN THE EXISTING PART AND THAT THEATER, UM, OR THE, THE BUILDING WOULD COVER THE PARKING DECK. GOTCHA. OKAY. UM, AND, UH, COULD YOU TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE ISSUE FOR ONE B UM, IT'S VISIBILITY, UM, I GUESS BOTH FROM THE TRAIL IN PARTICULAR, BUT ALSO FROM, UH, MAYBE THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS OR FROM ANYBODY LOOKING FROM, UH, THE, IS A CURVES AROUND AT, ACROSS FROM LUNA POINT. JONATHAN, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? IS IT GOING TO BE, IS IT GOING TO BE VISIBLE HOW VISIBLE IT'S GOING TO BE FROM THE TRAIL AS KEVIN POINTED OUT, THERE'S KIND OF A FAIRLY DENSE VEGETATIVE BUFFER BETWEEN THE TRAIL AND THE BUTLER FOR SITE. SO, UH, YOU MIGHT GET SLICES, TINY GLIMPSES OF THE BUILDING, UH, KNOW THAT SOMETHING'S THERE, BUT YOU'RE NOT REALLY GONNA SEE IT AS WELL. UH, I THINK FROM ALL OF THESE SOLUTIONS, YOU'RE GONNA FROM THE, UH, THE BASEBALL FIELDS THAT REMAINED, UH, LITERALLY FIELDS THAT REMAIN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE BUILDING. UM, THAT'S JUST KINDA THE NATURE OF IT THAT THE TREE HOUSE, THE TREE ALLY, OR I'M SORRY, THE LAYOUT OF THE KIND OF CAN'T PREVENT THAT. UH, SO IT'S GOING TO BE EXPOSED FROM THAT WAY, BUT WHEN I SAID THAT IT'S MORE ICONIC OR MORE EXPOSED, IT KINDA MEANT FROM DOWNTOWN OR FROM THE CORNER OF RIVERSIDE, SOUTH LAMAR, UH, YOU'LL HAVE A MUCH BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE BUILDING, UH, IN OPTION ONE B, THEN YOU WOULDN'T SAY OPTION ONE A, UM, AND THAT'S AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING TREES AROUND THE SITE THAT WE WANT TO KEEP. GREAT. THANKS A LOT. UH, MR. SHANE, I SEE YOUR HAND. OKAY. CAN YOU PUT IT BACK ON THE SLIDE THAT YOU JUST HAD WITH, UH, COMPARING ALL FOUR OF THEM? SO, UM, I GUESS I'M KIND OF LOOKING AT, IN WAYS OF WHAT IS A NET LOSS OF GREEN SPACE FOR LIKE THE GENERAL PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, AND I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. ONE B HOW, I GUESS IT'S MUCH MORE OF A ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSION, BUT I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT HOW THE ROAD COMES IN, IT'S LIKE WE HAVE TWO CEREMONIAL PRE-SESSIONS FOR VEHICLES DRIVING ALL THE WAY INTO THE SITE, UH, USING, UH, YOU KNOW, GREEN SPACE THAT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE PUBLIC COULD BE USING. AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE COMMISSIONER SONDRA'S, LIKE, W HOW ARE WE GOING TO USE THOSE SPACES WHERE WE HAVE ONE BEFORE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AT ZACK THEATER, THEN WE HAVE THIS OTHER ONE. AND I KEEP THINKING ABOUT, UM, AT PALMER AUDITORIUM, WE HAVE THAT BIG GREEN PROCESSIONAL AREA, BUT WHAT DO WE DO WITH IT? WHAT ARE THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE PUBLIC DO WITH IT? AND UNLESS WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF GOOD REASON OF SOME TYPE OF PUBLIC FUNCTION, I THINK, YOU KNOW, W W YOU KNOW, IT, IT KIND OF, TO ME PUSHES ON WHAT, UM, DESIGN COMMISSION WAS TALKING ABOUT HAVING THE GREEN SPACE CHOPPED UP BY ROADS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. UM, SO I WAS WONDERING IF YOU CAN KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT THE, THE, THE, THE PERCENTAGE OF USABLE SPACE, LIKE, HOW WOULD WE USE THAT? HOW WOULD THE PUBLIC BE ABLE TO USE IT LIKE THEY DID BEFORE, UM, COMPARED TO SAY THE ALL THREE OF THE OTHER OPTIONS? I MEAN, HOW DO YOU SEE PEOPLE, UM, PEDESTRIANS FROM THE PARK USE THE SPACE? CAUSE I SEE MOSTLY ROADS AND MOST OF THE TIME I'D BE TRYING TO DUCK BY THEM, I GUESS. YEAH. SO IT, IT MIGHT'VE, WE MIGHT'VE DONE OURSELVES A DISSERVICE BY RENDERING SIDEWALK IN THE SAME COLOR AS THE DRIVEWAY. UM, SO [01:05:01] IT, IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THEY'RE THE SAME, BUT THE, UH, THE KIND OF THE LARGER HALF CIRCLE, DESPITE THE BUILDING, THAT'S ACTUALLY SIDEWALK, THAT'S PART OF A PROMENADE THAT INSTEAD OF BEING A DIRECT LINE IS, UH, MORE CIRCUITOUS LEADING FROM, UH, STARTING IN THE ZACK AND KIND OF MEANDERING ITS WAY THROUGH THE SITE AND ALLOWING MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUTDOOR, UH, ART, WHETHER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN A FORMAL SENSE, LIKE AN OUTDOOR GALLERY, OR IF IT'S JUST FOR THE KIND OF, UH, PUBLIC OR, UM, KIND OF CREATIVE SPACES TO BE CENTERED ALONG THAT CIRCUITOUS FINE. UH, THE, THE REALITY IS OPTION ONE B HAS THE MOST GREEN SPACE WHEN YOU ROLL IN THE PARKING GARAGE, GREEN ROOF. AND SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LIKE A SIX INCH SOIL MEDIA WITH A GRASS OVER TOP OF IT. I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ENVISIONING SOMETHING MORE IN LINE TO, UH, SOMETHING DEEPER THAT'S ABLE TO, TO THE SAME SMALL TREES AND, AND HAVE OTHER THINGS. AND SO FROM A PROGRAMMING STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A LARGE PLAY FIELD. IT COULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S THERE NOW, WHICH IS JUST OPEN GREEN SPACE, UM, OR WE CAN PROGRAM IT VERY SPECIFICALLY THAT THAT'S KIND OF A FUTURE PHASE OF THE PROJECT IF IT NEEDS TO BE THAT. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY A STRANGE KIND OF VISUAL PHENOMENON WHERE OPTION ONE B HAS THE SMALLEST BUILDING FOOTPRINT, UH, AND, AND ACTUALLY PROVIDES THE MOST SCREEN SPACE. IT'S JUST THAT THE ROAD IS THERE, UM, LIKE SAY KIND OF MAKING IT LOOK LIKE IT'S OVERPOWERING IT. THE, THE, THE OTHER POINT I'D MAKE IS THAT, IS THAT, THAT ROAD, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S KIND OF IN SERVICE TO THE FEW BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE. SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH A PUBLIC ROAD AS IT IS. UM, JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE PICKUP AND DROP-OFF FOR STUDENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE PART OF THE YOUTH PROGRAM OR TO, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT STUDENT GROUPS. THEY COME TO USE THE DOHERTY WEATHER DURING THE DAY OR DURING THE EVENING, UM, AND KIND OF GET TO AND FROM, SO I'M GOING TO RUN OUT OF TIME. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET MORE QUESTIONS THEN, BUT SO TELL ME ABOUT THIS GREEN SPACE OVER THE PARKING. SO IS THAT, IS THIS PARKING GARAGE IN ONE B, IS THAT UNDERGROUND OR IS THIS ABOVE GROUND? YEAH. YEAH. UNDERGROUND IT'S UNDERGROUND. IT HAS THE OPTION TO BE, UH, WHATEVER HEIGHT WE WANT IT TO BE, BECAUSE IT'S COMPLETELY SEPARATED FROM THE BUILDING. OKAY. BUT MY, MY MAIN THING IS IF IT IS REALLY GREENFIELD, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU PUT A PARKING GARAGE AND LET'S SAY IT'S THREE STORIES. UH, YOU PUT A GREEN ROOF ON IT. PEOPLE DON'T REALLY GET TO GO AND USE IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NICE FOR, SO IT'S LIKE DISCOVERY GREEN IN HOUSTON. IT'S A CONTINUOUS GREEN SPACE WHERE YOU'D BE ABLE TO KIND OF MEANDER YOUR WAY UP THERE. NOT, THERE'S NOT A HARD WALL. OH, OKAY. SO IT KIND OF BLENDS IN WITH THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND IT. THAT MEANS SPACE. IS THAT RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT LIKE I GOT TO GO UP SOME STAIRS TO GET TO IT. CORRECT. OKAY. YOU MIGHT HAVE TO FIND A LITTLE BIT OF SLOPE, BUT THAT WOULD BE IT. OKAY. AND, AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ONE B YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, LIKE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, LA, YOU GUYS SUPPORT IT. AND SO IT IS HARD, BUT, UM, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS IN ARCHITECTURE SCHOOL AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THE BEST PART OF THE SITE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T BUILD RIGHT ON TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN, YOU BUILD NEXT TO IT. AND I, I KIND OF LOOK AT IT AND I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL PART OF THE SITE, YOU KNOW, THE GREEN RIGHT ALONG THE WATER. AND WE, AND TO ME, MY CONCERN IS YOU'VE TAKEN THAT AND YOU'VE PUT THE, YOU KNOW, A HARD THING RIGHT. ON THE EDGE, RIGHT. ON THE TRAIL, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW THAT, THAT THE SPECIFIC DESIGN OF THAT BUILDING, BUT IT NEEDS TO SOMEHOW BREAK AWAY INTO SOME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, TO BECOME PART OF THE LANDSCAPE VERSUS AN OBTRUSIVE BUILDING. AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE, BUT I LOOK AT IT AND YOU'VE OCCUPIED IT WEEK WITH THAT. OKAY. WE'RE AT A TIME FOR THAT QUESTION. DO WE HAVE OTHER COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONERS ARE THANK YOU, CHAIR. UM, I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE SHANNON ASKED HIS QUESTION AND THE, IF, IF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT CAN AFRICAN, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF MY THING, I'M SORRY. I, I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHAT THE QUESTION IS. OKAY. OH, THE SHAPE, THEY'RE FINE WITH IT. I'LL GO TOWARDS THE KIND OF QUESTIONS TO MAYBE CONFUSED SOME TIME. SO I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHICH OF THE SCENARIOS GIVES SORT OF FUTURE FLEXIBILITY, FLEXIBILITY TO ADD ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS OR EXPAND SOME OF THE EXISTING OR PROPOSED FACILITIES? SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE I LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, AN ARTS DISTRICT. WHAT IF YOU WANT TO [01:10:01] ADD BUILDINGS OR EXPAND BUILDINGS, WHICH SCENARIO LENDS ITSELF TO THAT THAT'S YEAH. FUTURE EXPANSION IS POSSIBLE IN ALL THE SCHEMES THAT ARE SHOWN HERE. I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME VERY NUANCED ASPECTS OF HOW THE THEATER NEEDS TO BE ACCESSED. UM, THERE'S, UH, A LOADING DOCK THAT SUPPORTS ITS INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO CERTAIN ELEMENTS ON THIS SITE, ONCE THEY'RE BUILT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE THEY WILL REMAIN. BUT, UM, WE HAVE ACCOMMODATED THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT IN THE EVENT THAT A DONOR DOES COME FORWARD. UM, AND THEN BUILDING PROGRAM WOULD BE ABLE TO EXPAND THAT THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT THAT'S SHOWN HERE COULD ENDURE, BUT ADDITIONAL PROGRAM FOR THE JORDY ARTS CENTER. AND WOULD THERE BE AN ABILITY TO CONSTRUCT ON TOP OF THE UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE IN ONE IT'S POSSIBLE? WHAT WOULD, I GUESS I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BLANCHARD QUESTION WOULD REALLY BE, I SHOULD PHRASE IT BETTER. WOULD IT MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO RECONSTRUCT THE PARKING GARAGE IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT SOMETHING ON TOP OF IT? SO, SO WE DIG IT OUT AND REDO THE WORK, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE POSSIBLE ON THE EXISTING OR PROPOSED GARAGE, IF THERE WAS A SOLID CHANCE THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN, THEN I'D SAY THAT THE STRUCTURE COULD BE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT FEW CARRIERS EDITION. THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT THE GARAGE COULD NOT BE USED WHILE PETER CONSTRUCTION WAS HAPPENING OVER TOP OF IT. THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL. MY OTHER QUESTION WAS, WAS HELPING OUT WITH THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT I'M SAYING THIS CORRECTLY. IF I UNDERSTAND IT WRITES OPTION ONE IN, IN ONE BEAT, BARD KEEPS ITS GRANT BUILDING. SO WE PRESERVE EXISTING BUILDING AND BART GETS TO HAVE AN OFFICE IN OPTION TWO BARDS GRANT IS DEMOLISHED, BUT BART GETS A NEW YORK OFFICE ELSEWHERE ON THE SITE. SO WE LOSE A HISTORIC BUILDING IN OPTION THREE BARNS. CURRENT BUILDING IS REPURPOSED, BUT BART ITSELF DOES NOT GET A NEW OFFICE. AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THE INABILITY TO DO SOMETHING WHERE BARNES GOOD OFFICE WOULD BE REPURPOSED OR RENOVATED AND WE USED, BUT BARD WOULD ALSO GET A NEW OFFICE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT CONSIDERED NO, IN OPTION THREE, THERE'S NOT A NEW OFFICE PROVIDED TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND I DIDN'T WANT TO SAY THAT THAT'S THE OPTION THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS MOST UNCOMFORTABLE WITH PUTTING FORWARD, BUT WE WERE DOING IT AT THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL AND WANTING TO GIVE FAIR CONSIDERATION TO ALL WE HAD BEEN ASKED TO EXPLORE. AND SO ESSENTIALLY, I GUESS, WOULD THERE BE AN ABILITY TO DO OPTION DO, BUT ALSO ENSURE THAT BARD'S EXISTING BUILDING IS REUSED IN SOME WAY, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED. YES, THAT IS POSSIBLE. AND WE DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE DISTINCTION, WHICH IS WHY WE SHOWED OPTION TWO AND THREE DIFFERENTLY, BUT THERE IS A HYBRID SCENARIO THERE THAT COULD PRESERVE THE ORIGINAL PORTION OF, UM, THE PART MAIN UNDER SCHEME TWO. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER SHADE. DO YOU WANT TO ASK HER A QUESTION? YOU KNOW, I'M TAKING THAT UP IN MY TIME AND MO MOSTLY, I'M TRYING TO GET A, GIVE A CHANCE TO TRY TO LIKE ONE B AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND MORE TALKING ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE SPACE AS I MOVED THROUGH IT. LIKE YOU MENTIONED ALONG THE PROMENADE, THAT WAS, IT'S NOT JUST A BIG ROAD. IT WAS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, DISPLAYING ART, YOU KNOW, AS YOU MOVE THROUGH IT. I MEAN, THAT BECOMES SOMETHING I CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND A GOOD USE OF THE SPACE VERSUS JUST THE BIG, YOU KNOW, ROADWAY THAT COMES IN PROMENADE. AND THEN ONCE I GET TO THE BUILDING, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE ONE OF THE BEST PARTS OF THE, OF THE SITE, SOMEHOW THE ARCHITECTURE HAS TO BECOME PART OF THE SITE VERSUS DOMINATE THE SITE. UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO START UNDERSTANDING THE QUALITY OF THE ARCHITECTURE, HOW IT FITS ME, MAYBE IT'S HOW I MOVE THROUGH BETWEEN THEM. IT'S VERY MUCH LIKE, YOU KNOW, PARK-LIKE VERSUS LIKE, HEY, HERE'S THIS BUILDING, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T IT AS AN ARCHITECTURAL STATEMENT JUST TO OCCUPY AND DOMINATE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS VERY DOMINATING ON THAT PART OF THE SITE. SO, UM, IF YOU CAN COMMENT ABOUT THE DESIGN APPROACH, THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAYBE CONSIDER I CAN REAL QUICKLY. I THINK THAT SCHEMATIC SECTION ON SLIDE 19 REALLY HELPS TO DO THAT. UM, BOTH TO SHOW THE BUFFER OF HOW THE BUILDING DOESN'T, DON'T REALLY EVEN EXPERIENCE THE BUILDING FROM THE TRAIL. UM, BUT ALSO TO SHOW THE SCALE OF THE OTHER BUILDING, UH, BOTH IN THE IMMEDIATE BUTLER, UH, SHORE SITE PLAN. AND AS YOU MOVE ALONG, LADY BIRD LAKE, UH, TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A, A RELATIVELY SMALL SCALE BUILDING AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO, UM, EVER SO SLIGHTLY PEEK OUT OF THE TREES WITH, UH, SOME KEY ELEMENTS SO THAT, UH, THIS BUILDING GETS A CHANCE TO ENACT ITSELF EVER SO SLIGHTLY, [01:15:01] BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, BECOME PART OF THE PARK. AND SO IT IT'S LOW SCALED IT. YOU CAN SEE TREES SPEAKING UP OVER THE TOP OF THE BUILDING. THAT'S VERY MUCH THE INTENTION IS THAT IT IT'S NESTLED. UH, BUT THAT IT STILL HAS A PRESENCE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT DOHERTY IS AFTER. OKAY. WE ARE AT A TIME COMMISSIONER IS OURS AT A TIME. SO DO WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER WITH THE QUESTIONS? UM, ANYONE, CAUSE I'M GOING TO USE A LITTLE MORE TIME IF, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, I GUESS I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE DISCUSSION OF SIDEWALKS AND THE ORIENTATION OF THE ONE B U ON THE PROMENADE. AND IF YOU COULD SORT OF EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I AGREE IT DOES LOOK LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF GREEN SPACE THAT'S SORT OF WRAPPED IN STREETS AND ROADS. AND, UH, IF YOU COULD DESCRIBE HOW THAT'S, WHICH IS SIDEWALK IN, WHICH IS, YOU CAN IMAGINE, DO WE GET WHAT 5% AGAIN, UH, SLIDE 18 KIND OF DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU CAN SEE THE SIDEWALK ACTUALLY CHANGES IN WIDTH A LITTLE BIT, AND IT, IT, IT IS MORE CURVILINEAR THAN THE ROAD, THE ROAD IS AS YOU'D EXPECT, UM, SOMEWHAT RATIONAL LIMITS GEOMETRY, ANYTHING DO YOU SEE THAT IT'S A LITTLE MORE FREEFORM, UH, THAT IS ACTUALLY SIDEWALK. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S THE TRAIL HEAD CONNECTION THAT GOES NORTH SOUTH THROUGH THE SITE, IT KIND OF SNAKES, UH, BACK AND FORTH TWO OR THREE TIMES. UH, AND THEN THERE'S THE EAST WEST ARTS THAT, UH, GOES UP AND KIND OF, LET'S SAY FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, ENGAGES THE EXISTING LIVE OAKS AND, UH, COTTONWOODS THAT ARE ONSITE. SO IT, IT KIND OF DODGES AROUND THREES AND MOVES AND CREATES THESE DIFFERENT SPACES, UH, THAT WE HOPE WILL ALLOW FOR THE DISPLAY OF PUBLIC ART. UM, BUT WE'LL ALSO CREATE, YOU KNOW, MORE INTIMATE GATHERING SPACES OTHER THAN JUST A BIG OPEN FIELD. YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S THE THING THAT, THAT OF THEM STRIVE TO DO IS PROVIDE DIFFERENT KINDS OF OUTDOOR SPACES, WHETHER THEY BE INTIMATE OR JUST WIDE OPEN FOR, TO ACCOMMODATE A RANGE OF NEEDS. UM, IF YOU ZOOMED IN ON ONE DAY, AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T, UH, THAT THERE'S, THERE'S KIND OF SOME LINE WORK ON TOP OF WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE SIDEWALK? UM, REALLY THE ROAD IS JUST THE ONE CIRCLE TIED TO RIVERSIDE. OKAY. AND IF I CAN ELABORATE ON THE, ON THE ROADS USE AND WHY IT'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. UM, SO TO SPEAK IS FROM A PROGRAMMING PERSPECTIVE, THE EXISTING DECK AND WHAT IS PLANNED FOR THE PROPOSED THAT PROVIDES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SERVICE, THE SCHOOL-AGE CHILDREN. AND SO BUSES WILL BE COMING AND DROPPING OFF, UH, LARGE VOLUMES OF STUDENTS ON A DAILY BASIS, UH, FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR STUDENT PROGRAMMING. AND THEN PARENTS COME UP AND PICK UP, UH, IN THE, IN THE EVENING. SO THE CURRENT BACK CURRENT CURRENTLY PROVIDES, UH, A MAKESHIFT KIND OF LOOP. UH, IF YOU ALL KNOW THAT FACILITY UP THERE WITH THAT PARKING FIELD AND KIND OF LUCAS THERE, WHICH IS WHY THAT, THAT THIS DRIVE OFF OF RIVERSIDE WAS A LOOP, UM, FROM THE OFFICE OF TRAFFIC OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE IS, IS NECESSARY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, ANYONE ELSE, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM? UH, COMMISSIONER CEDAR? YES. I HAVE A QUESTION ON, UH, IMPERVIOUS COVER AND ONE B WHAT IS THE IMPERVIOUS COVER OF THE PLOT OF THE LOT AS DESIGN AS PRESENTED? I DON'T THINK THAT I COULD TELL YOU THE EXACT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT LIKE I SAID, BY THE TIME IT WAS, IF WE FACTOR IN A SOIL MEDIUM, THAT'S DEEP ENOUGH TO, TO NOT BE CONSIDERED AN IMPERVIOUS COVER FOR THE PARKING GARAGE, BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN STANDARD, UH, THEN IT IS, IT HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER. CAN YOU TAKE A GUESS SO, BUT I ASKED YOU THE SAME THING ABOUT DESIGN TOO. ALSO, I, I, YOU HAVE GIVEN YOU AN EXACT NUMBER. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE OVERALL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 40 AND 45,000 SQUARE FEET. UM, BUT THE FOOTPRINT'S NOT LIKE THAT BIG, UM, WE, WE CAN OFFER TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. OKAY. UM, ALSO, WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE LOT, THE ENTIRE LOT THAT YOU'RE BUILDING ON MINUS [01:20:01] SLOTS, SKIS, POD, APPROXIMATE, CAUSE YOU HAVE SLOUGH SKIS. THE PIECE OF PARKLAND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE THREE LITTLE LEAGUE BALL FIELD IS APPROXIMATELY EIGHT ACRES. OKAY. AND IF OUR RESIDENT ARCHITECT HAS MORE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN HAVE THE REMAINDER OF MY TIME. JAMES, DO YOU WANT MORE TIME? NOPE. OKAY. I'M THROUGH. SO CAN WE, UM, OH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS? OKAY. I, UM, W WE CAN COME BACK TO IF YOU, IF, UH, BUT I WANT TO SEE THE, UH, EXHIBIT, UH, THE PAGE 17. I THINK THAT SHOWED ALL THE LAYOUTS IN ONE ON ONE SLIDE. IS THAT 17, MAYBE GO, YEAH, THERE WE GO. SO, AND MAYBE I MISSED IT. IS THERE NO. SO ONE DAY AS A COMMISSIONER, SHAY POINTED OUT KIND OF PUSHES, UH, HAS PARKING COMING IN FROM BOTH, UM, RIVERSIDE, UM, WELL OFF LAMAR, RIGHT. OR RIVERSIDE EXTENSION. AND THEN TO ME AND THE OTHER ONE EIGHT DOES NOT. UH, BUT WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR TRYING TO LOOK AT A WAY TO GET PARKING? UM, AND FROM BOTH THOSE STREETS WITH OPTION ONE A, WAS THAT POSSIBLE AT ALL? THERE MAY BE A POSSIBILITY. I THINK BETTER SLIDES TO LOOK AT IS SLIDE 13. OKAY, GREAT. THAT SHOWS THAT MORE SUCCINCTLY. OKAY. AND SO WITH, WITH OPTION ONE, A, UH, THE, THE PARKING GARAGE, AS YOU CAN SEE, AS THE NOTED BY NUMBER ONE, UH, WOULD LIVE UNDERNEATH THAT PROMINENT, THAT BLUE SHADE IS WHAT THE STRUCTURE WOULD BE UNDERGROUND. UH, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE AT GRADE, UH, AT THE STREET LEVEL. AND SO FROM AN ACCESS PERSPECTIVE, WHAT WE DID NOT WANT TO DO IS CREATE THE ABILITY TO GET FROM TWO METER RIVERSIDE. UH, WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE A DIRECT CONNECT BETWEEN THOSE TWO ROADS FOR MULTITUDES OF REASONS. SO THAT'S WHY IN ONE, A, UH, THE ACCESS TO PARKING GARAGE IS ONLY AVAILABLE FROM RIVERSIDE. OKAY. AND I JUST, AND I SEE THE, THAT THERE WAS A WAY TO PUT PARKING UNDERGROUND AND BUILDINGS ON TOP IN OPTION TWO. SO WHY COULDN'T YOU DO THAT ON ONE A YOU TAKE THIS ONE OUT ON THE CAR? YEAH. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CIRCULATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. UM, THERE'S LOADING THAT NEED TO HAPPEN FOR THE THEATERS THERE'S DROP-OFF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR THE FACILITY IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE YOUTH PROGRAM. AND THEN THERE'S ACCESS POINT TO THE GARAGE BY THE TIME YOU, YOU KNOW, CROWD ALL THESE THINGS TOGETHER AND THEN ROLL INTO THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T BUILD OVER CERTAIN UTILITIES, OR WE CAN'T DIG UNDER, UH, WHERE CERTAIN UTILITIES EXIST KIND OF CREATES TOO MUCH PRESSURE IN THAT POINT. AND SO REALLY WHAT IT WOULD REQUIRE WITH ONE A THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO GET, YOU KNOW, A GARAGE ACCESS, A DROP-OFF, UH, ACCESS TO THEATER, UH, AND STILL TREAT IT LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, ACCESSIBLE POINT. UM, SO WE, WE HAD TO KIND OF SAY ONE, I ONLY REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT GARAGE, UH, WHERE THE EXISTING ZACK PARKING LOT IS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAD, UH, WITH THAT. DO WE HAVE ANY FINAL QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER SHEA? YEAH. SO I WANTED TO, I GUESS I'M TRYING TO, WHEN I LOOK AT THE FOUR DIFFERENT ONES, THE MESSAGE THAT KIND OF GIVES ME IS VERY DIFFERENT. I FEEL LIKE THE PROGRAM, THE PROGRAM OPPORTUNITIES BETWEEN ALL FOUR, I MEAN, BETWEEN THE FOUR ARE, ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON EACH ONE, ESPECIALLY ON ONE B AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PART OR, OR SOMEBODY REPRESENTED A TARGET. AND YOU CAN TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT BECAUSE TO ME, IF, I MEAN, IF WE LOOK AT THE, WHERE OUR CITY IS HEADED, YOU KNOW, AND THE GROWTH OF THEIR CITY AND, AND EVEN THE MORE AND MORE OF THE CONCENTRATION AND COMMITMENT TO THE ARTS, THEN IF WE LOOK AT IT, THEN WE COULD, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THERE COULD BE SOME MERITS AND WHY THEY'RE WANTING ONE [01:25:01] B BECAUSE THE CAPACITY THAT IT COULD BRING AND THE CHRONIC NATURE OF WHAT THAT DESIGN IS, IS PRESENTING ON THE SITE AND TO AUSTIN IS A BIGGER, IS A BIGGER PRESENCE, A BIGGER IMAGE THAN IT IS WHEN, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS LOOKING AT IT FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, OH, WE SHOULD CLUSTER THEM. BUT THEN WE DON'T REALLY SEE, UM, THIS THING AS KIND OF THE BIG ARTS CAMPUS, BECAUSE IT'S ALL JUST KIND OF PUSHED TOGETHER. BUT HERE, IT SEEMS LIKE IT CREATES AN ICONIC OPPORTUNITY. AND TO ME, IF WE LOOK FOR THE FUTURE OF AUSTIN AND LOOK AT THE CAPACITY, CAUSE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUSES COMING IN AND PARENTS DROP OFF AND ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON. IN ADDITION, DO YOU HAVE ZAP THEATER GOING ON? IF THIS IS TRULY GOING TO BE WHAT WE WANT IT TO BE AS A NEW ARTS AREA FROM THE PERFORMING ARTS AND THE VISUAL ARTS, MAYBE WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE SOMEBODY IN THE DARK, IN THE ARTS OR PART, I MEAN, TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS BIGGER, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE MAYBE WE'RE THINKING TOO SMALL. SURE. I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. AND I THINK YOU HIT A LOT ON AHEAD OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM OUR DIRTY, OUR STAFF WHO WERE OBVIOUSLY REPRESENTING, BUT FROM THE START, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEM THAT THE DOHERTY ARTS CENTER HAVE AN IDENTITY AND IT HABITS CIVIC PRESENCE. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT THE PERCEPTION OF BEING TUCKED RIGHT BEHIND AND RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE ZACK THEATER IN A WAY THAT IS NOT VISIBLE, UM, YOU KNOW, HARD OR THE DAC RATHER AIMS TO BE AN INCUBATOR OF THE ARTS, UM, AND YOU KNOW, A VERY ACCESSIBLE ARTS HOME FOR ALL OF AUSTIN. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF CENTRAL TO THEIR MISSION TOO, IS THAT THEY, THEY HAVE AN IDENTITY THAT'S UNIQUE FROM THE ZACK THEATER. AND I THINK THAT ALSO GETS TO JUST A FEW PRACTICAL ISSUES WITH THE SITE ITSELF. UM, BUILDING DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE DECK, UH, RAISES SOME COMPLICATIONS, UM, WITH THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY INTERESTED IN BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THEM. THE SITE CONSTRAINTS BY THAT JONATHAN TALKED ABOUT EARLY SHOWS, EXACT LEASE BOUNDARY. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKELY WE'LL BE COORDINATING WITH THEM THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, BUT THERE THERE'S ENCROACHMENT INTO EXACTLY BOUNDARY WITH, UH, ALL OF THOSE SCENARIOS THAT REPURPOSE A PORTION OF THEIR PARKING AREA. UM, THIS PROVIDES A LITTLE MORE BREATHING ROOM AND SOME MORE CONTINUOUS, UM, OPERATIONS FOR THEM DURING THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL. WE HAVE EXHAUSTED OUR QA TIME. UH, SO, UH, THIS W THIS, UH, ITEM IS, UH, WE CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL. DO I HEAR ANY MOTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. INDEPENDENT. I FINISHED YOUR SHADE. SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO, BUT AT LEAST IT'LL BRING UP AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME DISCUSSION. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT BLEND B. AND IF WE GO THROUGH IT, IF WE GET A CHANCE TO EXPLAIN IT, THEN THE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, UH, COMMISSIONER, SHAY, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? YES. SO, I MEAN, IN ALL HONESTY, WHEN I GO THROUGH THE PRINCIPLES OF LIKE, OKAY, WE GOTTA BE, UM, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABLE AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF, BUT THEN, UH, IT DOESN'T LEAD ME TO ONE B. BUT WHEN I GO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A PLANNING, YOU KNOW, AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER, AND WE LOOK TOWARD THE GROWTH OF THE CITY AND THE NEEDS OF A CITY, IT'S, WE, WE, WE GOTTA BE LOOKING NOT WHAT'S BEHIND US, BUT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US AND WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE CITY ARE GOING TO BE. AND WHAT I SEE WHAT HOUSTON HAS, I SEE WHAT DALLAS HAS INTENT. I MEAN, WE SEE ALL THESE DIFFERENT CITIES AND WHAT THEY HAVE, AND IF WE STOP AND START THINKING SMALL AND PUT ALL THIS, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET TO THAT. TH TH THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I FEEL AUSTIN REALLY TRULY NEEDS. AND, YOU KNOW, MY KIDS, YOU KNOW, ARE IN THE ARTS OR PERFORMING ARTS, VISUAL ARTS, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BOTH OF THEM PROFESSIONAL PROGRAM IS A THEATER. AND I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY BIG AND IT'S GROWING AND GROWING. AND EVEN WITH THE VISUAL ARTS, I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I STOPPED, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO TO HOUSTON OR DALLAS, I VISIT THESE PLACES, YOU KNOW, THE MUSEUMS AND SUCH. AND IF, IF WE GET HERE, IF SOMEBODY COMES INTO THIS, IS IT FOR AUSTIN AND EVERYTHING JUST KIND OF PUT TOGETHER AND IT FEELS VERY CONSTRAINED. [01:30:01] UM, THEN I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE. SO BY GIVING SOME BREATHING ROOM, I TRULY HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I WANT TO, I WANT THE DESIGN TEAM TO THINK EVERY INCH, EVERY WALK ALONG THAT WALKWAY, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE DRIVEWAY, EVEN THE GREEN SPACE IN FRONT, I MEAN, COME ON, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOTTA BE CREATIVITY AND ART, AND THERE HAS TO BE INTERACTION WITH, WITH PUBLIC IN IT. AND I HOPE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING FOR, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE TOLD US AND THAT THEY'RE COMMITTED TO. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING THE ONE THING. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT, UH, ARE AGAINST THIS MOTION? UM, COMMISSIONERS IN FAVOR TO MR. THOMPSON? I THINK I SUPPORT THE MOTION, I GUESS I DO HAVE MAYBE AN AMENDMENT. I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO PHRASE IT, BUT I I'M, I'M SORT OF DISAPPOINTED IN ONE B TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE THAT DOES SEEM WRAPPED AND ROADS. AND THERE THERE'S, THERE ARE TWO TRAFFIC CIRCLES IN ONE B, ONE FOR ZACK AND ONE FOR, FOR THE DECK. AND IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE COULD SOMEHOW SEE IF THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, SHARE A TRAFFIC CIRCLE OR THAT COULD BE SOMEHOW REALIGNED. UM, AND SO OVERALL, I DON'T MIND, I LIKE THE PLACEMENT AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS NEXT TO THE TRAIL, BUT THAT'S OKAY. IT DOES SEEM LIKE SOME OF THAT GREEN SPACE IS CAUGHT UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, WHICH IS JUST USELESS. SO, UH, DO YOU WANT TO AMEND THE MOTION WITH SOME THING, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? YEAH. TO MAYBE SOMEHOW SAY, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT ONE B, BUT MAYBE RETHINK THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES. OKAY. YEAH. I, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. I COMPLETELY AGREE. SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT AMENDMENT? UH, COMMISSIONER AZHAR SECOND SAID, UH, I GUESS WE'LL GO. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR, UH, YOUR AMENDMENT COMMISSIONER CHAIR? CAN I, CAN I SAY SOMETHING TO THAT? SO, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH THE AMENDMENT AND I'M SUPPORTING IT. MY ONLY THING WOULD BE, I, I HOPE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN OUR CONSULTANTS GOING TO CONSIDER THIS, THEY CAN REALLY CONSIDER REMOVING THAT PARKING LOT NEXT TO THE BART OFFICE THAT CURRENTLY SERVES IT. I THINK THAT FIRST SORT OF GRAPHIC CIRCLE THAT INFORMS, I AGREE WITH WHAT CAN SHE JUMPED IN AND SAYING, IT SEEMS UNNECESSARY WHEN WE HAVE ANOTHER ENTIRE DROP-OFF ZONE NEXT TO THE DECK. OKAY. SO, UM, LET'S SEE. LET ME CATCH UP HERE. WE GOT, UM, SPEAKING, UH, AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT. DID THOSE SPEAK IN FAVOR, UH, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER? SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THE, UM, THE, UH, THE ADDITION OF THAT AMENDMENT. UM, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW IT CAN BE REFRAMED, BUT I THINK FEWER, FEWER ROADS IS THE IDEA. AND, UH, AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND SUPPORT IT. UM, I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH, UH, SOME OF THE PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS, THE LIBRARY REPUBLIC SQUARE, THE, UM, THE TRAIL, UH, THAT GOES OUT OVER TOWN LAKE EAST OF I 35, UM, ALL PROJECTS THAT WERE COMPLICATED. AND IN THE END, I THINK VERY MUCH APPRECIATED BY THE PUBLIC. AND I HOPE THAT THIS WILL BE ONE OF THOSE AS WELL. UH, DOHERTY IS I'M SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS ISN'T SORE NEED OF, UH, REHABILITATION AND, AND, AND NEEDS A NEW SPACE. SO I'M VERY GLAD THAT THIS IS HAPPENING. I THINK IT CAN BE AS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PROPOSAL UNDER ONE B WHERE WE SORT OF TAKE ADVANTAGE TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE GRAND, UM, AND TO HAVE, UH, PEDESTRIAN SPACES AND PUBLIC SPACES FOR ART AND GATHERING THAT ARE USEFUL AND ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO TAKE US TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE THE NEXT, HOWEVER MANY MILLION PEOPLE IN AUSTIN. UM, I THINK IT'S ALL, I THINK IT'S, UH, A GOOD PROPOSAL THAT NEEDS JUST A LITTLE TWEAKING AND, UH, UM, AND, UM, IN SUPPORTIVE OF THANKS. OKAY. AND SO IF THERE'S NO OPPOSITION, I MEAN, WE CAN VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT, UH, OH, COMMISSIONER SHAY. YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S IN FAVOR OF NEUTRAL, BUT PART OF IT IS, UM, PART OF IT AS FAR AS FOR KIT OF PARTS, IF THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHEN WE DID THAT OVER THERE AT THE CENTRAL LIBRARY, LIKE IN ORDER TO CREATE, IF IT'S A VEHICULAR SLASH PEDESTRIAN SPACE, THE TYPE OF PAYMENT THAT WE USED, THE TYPE OF CURVES THAT ARE, CAN ALL CREATE MUCH MORE PLEASANT, PEDESTRIAN, [01:35:01] UM, MIXED WITH, IF THERE'S VEHICLES THAT COME IN WITH, YOU KNOW, W TH THERE ARE TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE TO MAKE A MUCH MORE PLEASANT PEDESTRIAN PLACE THAN JUST FEELING LIKE THERE'S A RUG WITH CARS TEARING THROUGH. SO, UM, DEFINITELY USE THINGS LIKE PAVINGS AND DIFFERENT TYPE OF CURVES AND, UM, PLANNINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. SO JUST, JUST A NEUTRAL. OKAY. SO, UM, WE ARE FINISHED WITH THE, UM, DEBATE ON THAT. SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR THE MOTION IS I WROTE IT DOWN, WAS TO RETHINK THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, COMBINING, UH, THE DAC AND THE SAC TRAFFIC CIRCLES IS AN EXAMPLE, IS THAT'S WHAT I HAVE IS THE AMENDMENT, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON DOES THAT CORRECT? THAT'S GREAT. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, UH, THROUGH THE MOTION. UM, AND THIS WAS, UH, AN AMENDMENT BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CZAR. AND LET ME SEE YOUR CARDS. UH, OKAY. THAT'S 10 ZERO. OKAY. NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, THE BASE MOTION THAT, UH, WAS, UM, UH, PROPOSED BY COMMISSIONER SHEA, UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SNYDER. UH, SO LET'S GO AND VOTE ON THAT IS OPTION ONE B UM, AS PRESENTED TO US. SO LET'S GO AND VOTE ON THAT. UH, LET'S SEE YOUR CARDS. OKAY. THAT IS UNANIMOUS 10 ZERO. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, [E. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ] LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. I THINK WE DID A GOOD JOB OF, UH, GETTING D ONE MOVE TO THE CONSENT, AND NOW, UM, WE ARE ON TO, UH, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AND I WANTED TO GIVE, UM, UM, COMMISSIONER LEIGHTON WORK VERY WELL, A CHANCE TO, UH, I HAD SEEN THAT THERE'S COMMUNICATION, UM, COMMISSIONER BURWELL ON THE, UM, UH, UNO AND THE UNO AMENDMENT, UH, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN, THAT YOU'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM STAFF. DO YOU WANT TO, UM, PUT THAT ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION? I WOULD LIKE IT ON THERE. UM, JUST BASED ON, UH, TONIGHT'S AGENDA WHERE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION IS STILL ABLE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LDC, UH, AMENDMENTS, UH, FOR WHATEVER REASON. AND WE I'VE GOTTEN FEW COMMUNICATIONS, BUT, UM, UH, WHAT I SENT YOU TO NIGHT OR, UH, EARLIER, UH, UH, CHAIR, UH, WAS THE LAST THING THAT I HAD HEARD FROM JURY RUSTO. AND, BUT OUR, YEAH. UH, SO IF WE CAN ADD IT TO, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GET A READ ON THIS, BECAUSE I AM TOLD, WELL, ANYWAY, SO IT'S A BURDEN RIGHT NOW TO THE APPLICANTS, TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. IT'S BEEN IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION SINCE MAY OF 2020, AND THERE'S BEEN NO ACTION ON IT. AND, UH, AND SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UNTIL WE GET IT RESOLVED THE SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE HAVING COME BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. OKAY. SO, UM, WOULD YOU GO AHEAD, I'M READING THE EMAIL, BUT CAN YOU STATE, UH, EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO BRING? CAUSE WE HAVE TO GET TWO COMMISSIONERS TO VOTE FOR THIS TO BRING IN? UM, YEAH, IT PROBABLY IS GOING TO BE BEST TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL LETTER FROM JERRY TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE, UH, ON THE MAY, 2020 AGENDA. UH, AND, AND IT WAS TO CORRECT A MISTAKE THAT WAS MADE, UM, IN THE, UM, UH, IN THE, YOU KNOW, UM, ASSIGNED REGULATIONS, UH, THAT WERE PASSED BY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF 2019, BUT THE, WHAT THE COUNCIL INTENT WAS, AND THE WAY THE ORDINANCE ACTUALLY GOT WRITTEN WERE AT ODDS WITH EACH OTHER. SO IT'S REALLY A CLERICAL FIX. UH, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IN EVERY SINGLE MEETING, COUGHING UP $3,000 APPLICATION, UM, TO JUST HAVE US HEAR IT. UM, AND, UM, AND, AND, UH, STAFF, UH, HAS BEEN, UM, RETICENT FOR WHATEVER [01:40:01] REASONS TO, UM, BRING THIS BACK TO YOU GUYS FOR, UH, FOR ACTION AND IT NEEDS ACTION. IT JUST NEEDS ACTION. OKAY. SO, UM, FOR THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, I'VE GOT THIS OUT. I CAN READ THE LETTER FROM, UH, STAFF IF YOU WISH. UM, SO TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THIS, BUT OTHERWISE I NEED TO, TO, UH, COMMISSIONERS TO, UM, SUPPORT BRINGING THIS FORWARD FOR DISCUSSION, UH, COMMISSIONER SEEGER AND COMMISSIONER SHEA. OKAY. SO WE'LL BRING THIS UP AT THE, UH, UH, FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER FUTURE ITEMS THAT, UM, COMMISSIONERS, WHICH TO PROPOSE FOR FUTURE MEETINGS, UH, COMMISSIONER IS, ARE, THANK YOU CHAIR. I'M SURE THIS IS ON YOUR RADAR, BUT WE WILL NEED TO DO SOME NEW COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS BECAUSE OF THIS SLIDE WE'RE ABOUT TO LOSE, DO, BE BOTH PHONE, UH, CODES AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET THE WHOLE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY MEETINGS, BUT HOPEFULLY I KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG SHUFFLE NOW WITH NEW COMMISSIONS AS WELL. OH YEAH. SO, UM, UM, LET ME BACK UP JUST ONE SECOND, COMMISSIONER SEGER, I'M JUST GETTING A RECOMMENDATION THAT SINCE YOU, UH, WILL NOT BE IN A FUTURE, UH, MEETING, UM, THAT THE, THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS SHOULD MAYBE BE PROPOSED BY A, UH, SECOND COMMISSIONER. IS THERE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER THAT IS WILLING TO SPONSOR THE UNO, UH, TO LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENTS AND I'M A COMMISSIONER IS OUR, OKAY. SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS OUR COMMISSIONER SHEA, UM, TO BRING THAT, UH, UNO ITEM UP AT A FUTURE MEETING NOW. UM, SO NOW YOU ARE SAYING, COMMISSIONER IS OUR YES, WE HAVE APPOINTMENT. AND SO, YES, LET'S PUT IT ON OUR AGENDA, UM, WHERE WE HAVE WE'LL HAVE VACANCIES, UH, DUE TO, UH, COMMISSIONER SEEGER AND COMMISSIONER ANDERSON LEAVING THE COMMISSION. UH, LET'S GO AHEAD. AND, AND WE SHOULD HAVE, UH, PERHAPS SOME NEW COMMISSIONERS, UM, UH, WITH US AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO LET'S TAKE THAT UP TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS, UH, WHERE WE HAVE VACANCIES, OVARY. OKAY. UH, ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA, UH, ITEMS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO PROPOSE, AND I'M NOT SURE, ANDREW, DO WE NEED ANYBODY TO A SECOND COMMISSIONER CZARS AGENDA ITEM FOR FUTURE MEETINGS? CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LAYS ON THAT ANDREW RIVERA. THAT IS JUST THE BUSINESS OF THE COMMISSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY. UH, UH, WE'VE GONE TO X, UH, [F. BOARDS, COMMITTEES & WORKING GROUPS UPDATES ] ITEM F UH, DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATES? I'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LIST HERE. CODES AND ORDINANCES. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY. UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE, UH, I'VE BEEN TOLD WE HAVEN'T, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES NOTHING, BUT I DID HEAR THE ZAP BUILD AT LEAST ONE OF THEIR VACANCIES. I MAY GO AHEAD AND, UM, REQUEST, UH, THAT WE GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE A MEETING MAYBE IN APRIL. UM, SO WE CAN, UM, TAKE UP SOME MATTERS THAT, UH, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO, UH, LET'S SEE, JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, ANYTHING THAT'S STILL ON THEIR MEETING WAS CANCELED LAST WEEK OR WEEK BEFORE. OF COURSE. UM, WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING THIS FRIDAY TO, UM, HEAR FROM AUSTIN ENERGY AND AUSTIN WATER, UM, TO LOOK AT SOME RESILIENCE ISSUES. AND, UM, THAT WOULD PROBABLY RESULT IN SOME FURTHER DISCUSSION OF ITEMS IN THE FUTURE. I, I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT. A SMALLER PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE, ANYTHING. YEAH, WE DID MEET. OKAY. UH, SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD. UM, MR. THOMPSON IS, UH, YOU GUYS BEEN ABLE TO MEET AT ALL. I JUST GOT OFFICIALLY APPOINTED, SO I'M NOT FOR IT, BUT I THINK GREG HAS BEEN ATTENDING THE MEETINGS UP UNTIL NOW. OKAY. AND THEN LASTLY, I KNOW THIS IS ONE THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME FUTURE DISCUSSIONS ON IN MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP. UM, CAN [01:45:01] WE KIND OF REFRESH ON THE GAME PLAN THERE? SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL. UH, AND SO I AM READY TO SEND, UH, OUR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OFF. SO THAT STAFF, WHEN THEY PRESENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS A WHOLE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, WE HOPE BETTER, BETTER PREPARED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. SO THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD HAVE FOR STAFF, UM, THAT THEY CAN ANSWER AT THAT I HAVE HELD OFF AND I'M JUST WAITING ANYBODY ELSE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY TONIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEND ME QUESTIONS, UM, AND THEN I'LL SEND THEM AND TOMORROW. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE, UH, OF COURSE, IF YOU DON'T GET THEM IN BY, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT OR TOMORROW MORNING, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SEND THEM IN LATE THAT'S OKAY. BUT OKAY. I WILL SEND THEM ALL IN. SO DO WE, I'M TRYING TO RECALL, DID WE PROPOSE A DATE OR A COUPLE OF RANGE OF DATES FOR A PRESENTATION WITH STAFF? IS THAT BEEN DECIDED YET? I THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE AT OUR NEXT MEETING, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN POSTPONED BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE, THE WEATHER CONFUSION, MR. RIVERA. DO YOU KNOW, UM, IF THAT'S ON OUR, ANY PARTICULAR FUTURE AGENDA? SURE. COMMISSION WISE ON ANDREW TO CONFIRM WITH, UH, STAFF IN REGARDS TO A CASE LOAD, AS I MENTIONED, UM, WE ARE, WE MAY BE, UM, BEHIND ON HIM. OKAY. PUBLIC HEARINGS. ALL RIGHT. TO GET DETERMINED. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? UM, FROM THE BOARDS COMMITTEES, I MISS ANYBODY THAT WE'RE GOOD THERE. OKAY. SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, WE ARE GOING TO TURN HERE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IT'S SEVEN 51. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.