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[CALL TO ORDER]

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HELLO EVERYONE.

THIS IS NEHEMIAH FITZ.

THE THIRD OF THE CHAIR OF THE ACUITY TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION TODAY, OF COURSE, IS MARCH THE 10TH.

IT IS SIX 35 AND CALLING TO ORDER OUR REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING HERE AND, UH, TO BEGIN, UH, OUR AGENDA AS WE ALWAYS DO.

UH, WE BEGAN BY ACKNOWLEDGING WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

UH, ACTUALLY THAT'S INCORRECT.

WE BEGIN WITH A, UH, A ROLL CALL AND PART CALLING THE ORDER, BUT WE WOULDN'T DO THAT, UH, HERE BRIEFLY.

UM, I PERSONALLY CHECKED IN WITH EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE I HAVE AUDIO AND VIDEO.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THIS FOR SPEEDING AND SEE, UH, IN THE ORDER HERE ON MY SCREEN, UH, COMMISSIONERS DAVID FLOYD, UH, A VICE CHAIR, DAVID ALEXANDER, UH, COMMISSIONER, MALCOLM GATES, UH, COMMISSIONER SOPHIE GUIRO AND COMMISSIONER SUMIT DASGUPTA ARE ALL PRESENT AND TO THEN PROCEED WITH THE AGENDA FOR AND COMMUNICATION.

UH, WE HAVE NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – January 13, 2021 and February 10, 2021]

SO THEN WE WILL PROCEED TO AGENDA ITEM ONE, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

AND, UH, BECAUSE WE DID NOT COMPLETE A QUORUM IN OUR LAST MEETING ON FEBRUARY THE 10TH, WE HAVE TWO SETS OF MEETINGS, UH, MEETING MINUTES TO APPROVE, UH, BUT WE'VE HAD, UH, NOW AN EXTRA MONTH, UH, TO WORK THROUGH THOSE AND HOPEFULLY BE COMFORTABLE, UH, WITH AN APPROVAL.

SO I'LL BE LOOKING QUICKLY FOR, UH, A REVIEW OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING AND THE PROCEEDING MEETING, AND THEN THEY EMOTIONS IT SHEPHERDS.

WOULD YOU LIKE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS OR A SINGLE MOTION TO APPROVE BOTH? I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY, WE SHOULD PROBABLY VOTE THEM SEPARATELY.

UH, THAT WAS NOT TIED TO EACH OTHER BECAUSE THEY EACH DID HAVE THEIR OWN BOAT, SO THEY DESERVED THEIR OWN BOAT THING AND, UH, WE'LL EITHER HAVE TO THEN AMEND THEM RIGHT.

UH, AND, OR CONVENE AGAIN.

SO EITHER WAY, IF WE CANNOT AGREE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA UNTIL WE AGREED TO.

SO, UH, THAT OF MINE TAKE YOUR TIME HERE.

WE'VE GOT A LITTLE TIME EVERYONE, THREE MINUTES AND YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, WHILE I'M DOING THAT, UH, I HOPE YOU'LL GIVE ME A MOMENT TO SAY THAT SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY DEALT WITH UNPARALLELED EVENTS IN OUR TOWN, UH, ONCE, UH, IT'S TOUGH TO IMAGINE, UH, IN ADDITION TO MANAGING THE PANDEMIC, UH, MANAGING CHALLENGES, UH, WITH VACCINE ROLLOUT, OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE MANAGED HERE OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST, YOU KNOW, YOU MUST HAVE A YEAR THAT WE HAD TO MANAGE ALSO A WINTER DISASTER, THE LEFT MANY IN THIS TOWN WITHOUT POWER AND WATER, SOME STILL WITHOUT PART POWER TO THIS DAY, UH, AND, UH, WITH REAL IMPACT ON LIVES, UH, BUSINESS.

NOW, I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN TO SEVERAL ON THIS COMMISSION WHO WERE AFFECTED PERSONALLY.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND, UH, BEING DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY, UM, BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH HER , BUT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UH, WHENEVER ANYONE'S READY.

I GUESS I DO SEE ONE THING THAT I MIGHT SUGGEST WE ADD, UM, UNDER, UH, NEW BUSINESS, UH, B F Y 22 BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, IT DOES LIST THE COMMISSIONERS, DISCUSS THE PRIORITIES THE MONTH DISSIPATION COMMISSION MEETINGS, TABLATURE OF COUNCIL VOTE RECORDS FUNDING

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FOR GRANT, FOR TECHNOLOGY OPPORTUNITIES, PROGRAM AND ZOOM LICENSES FOR USE AT PUBLIC LIBRARIES.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS ADDED, THAT I PERSONALLY ALSO REQUESTED, UH, ALL PUBLIC FACILITIES, UH, HAVE THAT CAPABILITY, OR WE CONSIDER THAT NOT JUST THE LIBRARIES, UM, BUT ANY, ANY PLACE WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE HOPE FACILITIES SHOULD BE NOT SAYING, UM, I'M PRETTY SURE I MADE THAT STATEMENT, UH, THAT WE SHOULD EXPAND BEYOND LIBRARIES.

OH, I THINK IT'S, UH, IT ALSO BEARS NOTING UNDER THE WORKING GROUP FOR TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE AND INNOVATION, UH, THAT COMMISSIONED US GROUP WAS GOING TO SUBMIT FINDINGS, UH, BASED ON THIS COMMUNICATIONS WITH, UH, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH, UH, AND INSIGHTS INTO THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD WITH THE VACCINE DISTRIBUTION.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT, I WASN'T PRESENT AT OUR LAST MEETING, SO I CAN'T.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT, FOR THAT.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE NUDGE.

IT'S ALL THE REST OF US WHO WERE PREGNANT, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.

I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE OR AT LEAST A VOTE TO APPROVE.

UM, ARE YOU BACK? THE QUESTION IS, IS GOING TO BE, I'M NOT VOTING FOR THESE TWO IN THAT CASE, WE DON'T HAVE COURT.

WELL, I THINK, UH, I THINK COMMISSIONER WOULD BE WELL-SERVED TO A STAIN.

UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO A MEETING, SHE DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN, UH, RIGHT.

ACTUALLY ASSESSING THOSE MINUTES, BUT AT THE SAME TIME SHE COULD HAVE WATCHED IT.

RIGHT.

I KNOW I WATCHED THE MEETINGS, BUT I DON'T DISPLAY THEM.

SO, UH, THAT'S UP TO HER TO DECIDE IF SHE WANTS TO.

YEAH, NO, MY QUESTION IS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH VOTES, BUT THAT'S UP TO HER TO DO BEFORE WE GET THERE AND SHE MAY HAVE WATCHED THE RECORDING, BUT LET'S ASSUME SHE HAS, BECAUSE I THINK ANY GOOD COMMISSIONER WARREN, UM, I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER HERE WHICH PATIENT WOULD HAVE, I THINK IT'S GOING TO DEPEND UPON, UH, ARE WHETHER OR NOT A QUORUM IS ESTABLISHED BASED ON OUR FUNCTIONING BODY, WHICH IS, UH, WHICH CONSISTS OF EIGHT MEMBERS RIGHT NOW.

SO A QUORUM IS, IS FIVE.

IS THAT RIGHT? WE HAVE EIGHT COMMISSIONERS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE ACTIVE.

JESSIE FOR A RULING ON THIS.

I WAS ABOUT TO ASK JESSE, ET CETERA.

AND FROM WHAT I STATED, UH, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF ROBERTS WAS ORDERED.

PLEASE.

CAN YOU CONFIRM HELLO COMMISSIONERS? UH, TO CLARIFY THE QUORUM FOR THE COMMISSION IS A SET NUMBER ESTABLISHED IN THE BYLAWS AT SIX IT'S.

IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE, IT'S NOT VARIABLE, AND IT'S NOT AFFECTED BY, UH, SEATS THAT ARE FILLED VERSUS SEATS, SEATS THAT ARE VACANT.

THAT'S IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION.

THANK YOU, JESSE.

SO NOW

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WE KNOW WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL SIX PEOPLE VOTE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO APPROVE MINUTES.

RIGHT? SO THE QUESTION, SO, SO THEN TO BE CLEAR, RIGHT, WHAT IT MEANS IS WE'LL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A VOTE FOR THESE MINUTES AS COMMISSIONERS, BEFORE THERE'LL BE REMOVED FROM THE MINUTES FROM THE AGENDA.

RIGHT? SO, UH, IF COMMISSIONER DARWIN HAS WATCHED THE VIDEO AND PLUS A CUP OF BOATING AND SHE CAN, IF SHE HAS IT, THAT'S FINE.

THEN HOPEFULLY EVERYONE WHO HASN'T, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THE NEXT TIME.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO THEN KICK THIS TO THE NEXT AGENDA.

UH, BUT THE SAME OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE, WILL BE AFFORDED THEM.

UH, SO JUST AS BEFORE, IF THEY WANT TO STAINS, WE'LL HAVE TO KICK IT.

I MENTIONED TO APPROVE THE FIRST SET OF MINUTES.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE FIRST AMENDED MINUTES FROM AGENDA FROM, UH, JANUARY 13TH, 2021.

UH, IS THERE A SECOND HIM TO, OKAY.

MOTION HAS BEEN APPROVED IN SECOND TO, UH, VOTE ON APPROVAL FOR THE JANUARY 14TH, 20, 21 MEETING MINUTES.

ALL THOSE WOULD FAVOR APPROVING THOSE MINUTES, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

AYE.

SO SHOW OF HANDS THIS WAY.

OKAY.

ALL THE POSTS I SAY I TOO, BY THE WAY, UH, ANYONE IN THE NEGATIVE.

OKAY.

SO WE DO HAVE UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES FROM FIRST.

NOW FOR THE MINUTES ON THE SECOND, WE MAY WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS HERE.

UH, ALSO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE FEBRUARY MINUTES.

OKAY.

I'VE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FEBRUARY MINUTES.

IS THERE A SECOND? I PERSONALLY SECOND THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE FEBRUARY MINUTES.

SO NOW WE CAN HOLD A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE FEBRUARY MINUTES, PLEASE SAY AYE, AND A WAVE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

I SEE THAT'S FIVE AND, UH, ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY.

AND ANYONE ELSE STATING, OKAY.

SO THEN WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UH, MR. GARBER ABSTAINING.

SO WE'LL THEN, UH, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THESE MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY MEETING AGAIN, AND TO VOTE ON THEIR APPROVAL AGAIN.

UH, BUT I'D LIKE TO, FOR THE RECORD SINCE, UH, I MADE TWO SUGGESTIONS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD FOR THAT MEETING APPROVAL, JESSE.

YES.

SURE.

UH, OR CHAIR, I WILL MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND, UH, BRING THOSE TO THE NEXT MEETING.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR CLARIFYING, UH, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A VARIABLE QUORUM AMOUNT.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT MEANS THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE DO GET TO IN FACE IN A PORTION OF EVENTS, THE SAME TYPE OF CHALLENGES, WHAT WAS IT THEM? SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE A NICE CHALLENGE TO HAVE WHERE WE HAVE, UH, MORE THAN SIX COMMISSIONERS AT ONE OF THAT ONE TO DO SOMETHING ALTOGETHER, NOT FOR THE CITY.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, WE'LL PROCEED WITH OUR AGENDA TO STAFF AND COMMUNITY BRIEFINGS.

A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC MAY NOT ADDRESS A BOARD NUMBER I'M BEING ON.

I POSTED A BRIEF THIS TIME,

[2.a. TARA Office Legislative Briefing (John Speirs, Program Manager – Telecom & Regulatory Affairs)]

UH, BUT AGENDA ITEM A, UH, TARA OFFICE, LEGISLATIVE READING BRIEFING, UH, BY JOHN SPEARS, PROGRAM MANAGER, UH, THE TELECOM AND ROOF REPAIRS OFFICE.

JOHN, PLEASE TAKE IT AWAY.

THANK YOU.

HELLO.

HI JOHN.

HELLO.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME IN THE ROOM.

OH, YES.

SORRY IF THERE'S BEEN A CHALLENGE.

YEP.

HUH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS.

UM, SERVES TO PROVIDE A LEGISLATIVE UPDATES.

THERE ARE 14 BILLS FILED, UH, AMENDED AND ONE HEARING SCHEDULED TO CONSIDER SB FIVE AND SB FIVE OH SEVEN, UM, IS, UM, SENATE HEARING NEXT WEEK.

UM, THE TIME OF THE HEARING IS 8:00 AM WEDNESDAY, MARCH 17TH, 2021.

THE FIRST BILL THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED AT THE HEARING AS SB FIVE.

THIS IS RELATING TO THE EXPANSION OF PRODUCT AND SERVICES TO CERTAIN AREAS.

THIS BILL, AS A COMPANION TO FIVE, THIS BILL OVERALL HAS A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S DIGITAL INCLUSION, STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND THE

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LANGUAGE IN THE BILL, UM, IN SUMMARY IS TO ADD A NON-VOTING MEMBER TO THE GROUP GOVERNOR'S CURRENT BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, AND TO ADD LANGUAGE FOR RESEARCH, UH, OF PROGRESS FOR DEPLOYMENT OF BROADBAND SERVICES, STATEWIDE AND INDUSTRY AND TECHNOLOGY TRENDS AND PROMPTING AND SERVICES.

AND THIRDLY, THE BILL ADDS A STATE BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE ADMINISTRATIVELY ATTACHED TO THE TEXAS UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SYSTEM.

EXCUSE ME.

UM, AND THE STATE'S BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE SHOULD BE, UH, SHALVEY AS, UH, DETAILED IN THE BILL UNDER THE DIRECTION AND CONTROL OF THE BOARD OF ADVISORS, UH, FURTHER DETAILED HERE IN THE BELLS.

SO THESE BOARD OF ADVISORS WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE APPOINTED BY THE DIFFERENT UNIVERSITY SYSTEMS, THE GOVERNOR, THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, BY BOTH LEADERS, THE BOAT CHAMBERS, UM, AND WOULD HAVE LIMITED REPRESENTATION BY LARGE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS, CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UM, AND THIS BILL AND FIND, UH, FINALLY THIS BILL ESTABLISHES A BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM THROUGH WARD GRANTS AND LOW INTEREST LOANS AND OTHER FINANCIAL INCENTIVES THROUGH APPLICANTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXPANDING THIS TO ADOPTION OF BROADBAND SERVICE IN CENSUS BLOCKS, DETERMINED TO BE ELIGIBLE AREAS.

SO THIS BILL ALSO SPEAKS TO DEVELOPMENT OF THE BROADBAND, UH, MAP THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER WHILE THIS MAP WOULD ACTUALLY BE EVALUATING AND THE DATA POINTS WOULD BE DESIGNATING.

THOSE CENSUS BLOCKS THAT IF THERE IS LESS THAN 80% OF THE AREA THAT HAS BROADBAND SERVICE, UM, AND THOSE AREAS WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR GRANTS, IF IT IS, UM, HAS 80% OR MORE BROADBAND SERVICE IN A CENSUS BLOCK, THEY WOULD BE INELIGIBLE FOR THE GRANT FROM THE STATE.

ARE THE STATE, UM, AS WELL, DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A BROADBAND OFFICE.

SO THE STATE OF TEXAS IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A NUMBER OF THE FEDERAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, UM, FROM THE, UH, DIFFERENT STIMULUS PACKAGE, FEDERAL FUNDING PROGRAMS, ET CETERA.

SO THIS WOULD OPEN UP OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS TO FINALLY BE ELIGIBLE.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL CHOP THAT UP AS A WIN.

UM, HOWEVER, THE REAL CHALLENGE POINT HERE IS, UM, THE REPRESENTATION OR LACK THEREOF OF, UH, MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS, CITIES COMMENSURATE WITH THE SIZE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO AUSTIN IS A LARGE CITY IN TEXAS, ONE OF A FEW, UM, AND THERE WILL NOT BE REALLY ANY SEATS AT THE TABLE FOR LARGE MUNICIPAL ORGANIZATIONS, UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE FUTURE, UH, COUNCIL AND THE, UH, ADVISORY BOARD THAT WOULD HELP TO SET THIS OFFICE.

SO IN OUR LEGISLATIVE RESPONSE, WE HAVE INDICATED THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE A PRIORITY AS WELL AS, UM, THE CITY IN OUR LEGISLATIVE ANALYSIS HAS REQUESTED MORE GRANULAR DETAIL WITH REGARDS TO THE MAPPING.

UH, CENSUS BLOCK IS GOOD, BUT THE IDEAL, UH, MORE GRANULAR DATA WOULD ACTUALLY BE DOWN TO AN ADDRESS LEVEL.

UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE CALLED OUT, UH, WITHIN OUR LEGISLATIVE ANALYSIS.

UM, AND THIS WOULD ALSO GO BEYOND WHAT THE, THE FCC CURRENTLY REQUIRES.

SO, UH, WE HAVE ASKED FOR GREATER, UM, MORE DETAILED MAPPING AND MORE MUNICIPAL REPRESENTATION OVERALL, UH, HOWEVER, FROM AN OVERALL LENS AS WELL, THIS DOES ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S DIGITAL INCLUSION STRATEGIC PLAN, AND IT IS, UM, UH, SOMETHING THAT MOVES US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH REGARDS TO THE MOST PROACTIVE, UH, PIECE OF LEGISLATION WITH REGARDS TO BROADLY ON, UM, IN THE STATE.

UM, AND THIS IS A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SO I'LL HOLD IT THERE BECAUSE THERE'S ONE OTHER BILL THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AT THE HEARING.

UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SB FIVE, WHICH ARE JUST SUMMARIZED THERE.

YEAH.

I THINK WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE READY.

YOU'RE READY AHEAD.

OKAY.

SO FIRST, UM, WITH THIS SP FIVE B FOR BOTH URBAN AND RURAL COUNTY, YES.

OKAY.

AND WHEN YOU SAY LESS THAN 80% OF THE CENSUS BLOCK, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT EXECUTE

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OR WAS THIS LIKE THE POTENTIAL FOR HAVING A CONNECTION? IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE CONNECTION THERE, BUT PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE 80% RULES, DID THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, LET ME, LET ME ATTEMPT AN ANSWER THERE AND YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND IF I I'M ON TRACK THERE.

UM, THE BILL CURRENTLY STATES THAT IT IS MEASURING THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE ACCESS TO BROADBAND SERVICE.

UM, IT DOESN'T, UH, SPEAK IN GREATER DETAIL AS FAR AS THOSE AREAS THAT ARE A SERVICE PER SE, BY ANY NON BROADBAND INTERNET, UH, 25, THREE AS PER THE FCC GUIDELINES.

SO THAT IS, UM, UH, THE CURRENT MEASURE IS THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE ACCESS TO BROADBAND SERVICE.

RIGHT.

BUT YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY COUNTING THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY CONNECTED SOME OTHER CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE USING TO GET IT TWO BROADBAND SERVICE.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT MIGHT EXCLUDE A LOT OF LOW-INCOME AREAS AT ALL.

THAT'S EATING CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, ALEXA, TO CHIME IN ON THAT, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WHAT I HEARD AND THE DESCRIPTION, UH, WAS THAT THERE ARE S THAT'S CITY SIZE POPULATE IN THE POPULATION OR, UH, OR GEOGRAPHY THAT THEY'RE USING AS A DETERMINING FACTOR FOR EXCLUSION.

UM, SO THE BILL IS CURRENTLY FRAMED AROUND THE POPULATION OF THE AREAS THAT ARE DEFINED AS RURAL.

UM, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY DEFINED AROUND GEOGRAPHY.

I SEE.

SO CITY POPULATION THOUGH, NOT AS OPPOSED TO COUNTY POPULATION.

UM, SO THE BILL IS CURRENTLY QUALIFYING THE REPRESENTATION OF WHO HAS A SEAT AT THE TABLE WITH REGARDS TO COUNTY POPULATION.

IT DOESN'T EVEN, IT DOESN'T GO AS FAR AS CITIES.

WOW.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S YEAH.

SO, OH, WOW.

OKAY.

SO THEN LOOKING AT THE SAME KIND OF LANGUAGE THEN, UH, THAT I READ IN THE EMERGENCY BROADBAND BENEFIT PROGRAM, UH, IT'S A BUNCH OF REFERENCE TO, UH, THE PANDEMIC AND UNIQUE, UH, FRAMING AROUND THE PANDEMIC IN TERMS OF, OF THIS BILL OR, OR ARE THEY LIKE, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE CITY RESOLUTION, UH, THAT ACKNOWLEDGED, UH, THE IMPACTS OF, OF SEGREGATION AND THE 1928 STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, WHEREAS THAT HERE AT THE CITY LEVEL SPECIFICALLY ACKNOWLEDGED THIS, THE SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT CAUSE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, UH, THAT LED WITH A LEADING TO THE CRISIS FOR MANY WITHIN AND IN OUR COMMUNITY, UH, DOES THIS BILL FRAME INFRASTRUCTURE AS THE CHALLENGE, OR DOES IT TRY TO FRAME IT AROUND AN EVENT, MUCH LIKE THE EMERGENCY BRONC, THAT BROADBAND BENEFIT PROGRAM, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO, BUT IT'S A POINT OF CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S FRAMING IT AS THOUGH A PROBLEM IS THE PANDEMIC, AS OPPOSED TO THE PROBLEM BEING THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS DEPENDENT EXPOSED.

THIS IS, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE, JOHN? IT DOES.

THEN LET ME TRY AND ANSWER IT AND YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND IF I'M ON TRACK THERE.

UM, THE, THE BILL IS FRAMED AROUND THE AVAILABILITY OF BROADBAND SERVICES.

SO IT DOESN'T MENTION THE, THE PANDEMIC AS A, AS A MEANS TO WHY THE BILL HAS BEEN PROPOSED.

UM, AND THIS IS JUST READING THE TEXT.

UM, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO INTERPRETATION HERE.

IT'S JUST READING THE TAX.

SO, UM, TRULY JUST ASSESSING THE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL.

IT IS STRICTLY RELATED TO, UM, THE, THE TOP LINE ITEM THERE, THE EXPANSION OF BROADBAND SERVICES.

THERE'S NO MENTION OF COVID OR ANYTHING ELSE.

SO THAT DOES CREATE AN INTERESTING TENSION THEN BETWEEN WHAT I THINK IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FUNDING MECHANISM FOR THIS HOUSE BILL AND THE BILL ITSELF, RIGHT? IF THE EMERGENCY BROADBAND BENEFIT PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE TIED TO SB FIVE

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OR HB FIVE, THEN THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A FRAMING, UH, AROUND THE PANDEMIC.

UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, SO WE'LL GET INTO THAT MORE LATER, SHE WAS GET EVERYONE ELSE'S FEEDBACK, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A REAL POINT OF CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S, AGAIN, ADDRESS THE DRESSING, THE, UM, NOT THE CAUSE OF THE ROOT CAUSE, BUT RATHER JUST THE SYMPTOMS. UH, YOU KNOW, DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH ON THAT QUESTION? WELL, A BUNCH OF CREDIT COMMENTS IMPRESSIONS, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

UH, NUMBER ONE, YOU SAID ABOUT THE SEAT AT THE TABLE AND BECAUSE IT'S MORE DIRECTED TOWARDS RURAL BROADBAND, ETC.

THAT CITIES AND COUNTIES, CITIES LIKE AUSTIN AND COUNTIES LIKE TRAVIS COUNTY WILL NOT HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE, BUT WILLIAMSON COUNTY, WHICH IS AREA-WISE, THAT THING IS BIGGER THAN TRAVIS COUNTY BY POPULATION WISE IS LESS THAN HALF WOULD HAVE A HIGHER PROBABILITY OF HAVING A SEAT AT THE TABLE.

I KNOW COUNTY, THEY'RE LARGE FARMS, SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET BROADBAND ONE FARM.

WHEREAS IN RUNDBERG AND LAMAR, THERE MAY BE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO NEED IT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS.

SO ISN'T THE ULTIMATE DIRECTION ABOUT JOB CREATION OF ENRICHMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT TEXAS IS WELL-SERVED RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, EMPOWERING ONE FARMER, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY MIND BLOWING.

SO, BUT THAT'S, I'M STANDING ON THE SOAP BOX HERE, BUT, UH, SO I HAVE THAT CONCERN.

AND SECONDLY, WHAT CONSTITUTES BROADBAND BROADBAND IN LAMAR ENRON, ROBERT AUSTIN AISD, IF YOU REMEMBER A PRESENTATION FROM THE, YOU KNOW, CIO OF THE ISD WHO CAME IN AND SAID, WE HAVE REALLY GONE TO A GUN TO WORK ON THIS AREA AND WE'VE EMPOWERED THE STUDENTS, WE'VE GIVEN THEM ALL THESE EQUIPMENT, ET CETERA.

SO IF A STUDENT HAS ACCESS IN A HOUSE TO BROADBAND, DOES THAT COUNT? I ENDED UP BROADBAND COULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY AISD CAUSE THAT COUNT THAT THAT HOUSEHOLD IS ALREADY CONNECTED TO EVEN MAYBE JUST TWO STUDENTS INVOLVED.

WHAT CONSTITUTES BROADBAND CONNECTION.

WHAT IS METRIC? THANKS FOR THE COMMENT.

UH, GREAT QUESTION.

UH, DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO HANDLE THAT IN TERMS OF HB OR SB FIVE, JOHN? UM, YES.

I'M SORRY.

I, UM, SO PERMISSION OR TO SCOOP INTO THE, UM, TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION THAT BILL DOES STATE THE DEFINITION OF BROAD SPAN, CONSISTENT WITH THE CDC DEFINITION, WHICH, UM, IS DOWNLOAD 25 MEGABYTES UPLOAD THREE MEGABYTES.

SO IT IS, IT IS ALIGNED WITH THE FCC DEFINITION, UM, TO YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS THERE.

YES.

LIKELY IT WOULD BE, UH, THERE MAY BE MORE REPRESENTATION FROM NEIGHBORING COUNTIES LIKE YOU GAVE THE EXAMPLE OF WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

UM, AND THAT HAS BEEN A POINT TO THAT BECAUSE SEE THAT THE CITY HAS INDICATED IN OUR LEGISLATIVE ANALYSIS IS THAT, UM, MUNICIPALITIES, THE MENTOR WITH THE SIZE OF AUSTIN DO NEED REPRESENTATION THERE, I THINK FROM AN OVERALL LENS, UM, THIS BILL DOES REPRESENT A, A STARTING POINT, UM, OR A, A DIRECTION.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, WITH REGARDS TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE CREATE THAT THE STATE IS PROPOSING THE CREATION OF A BROADBAND DEVELOPMENT OFFICE THAT CAN RECEIVE FEDERAL FUNDS AND CHAIR PITS.

UM, WE'LL SPEAK TO THE EMERGENCY BROADBAND BENEFIT LATER, AND THE ABILITY TO AT LEAST START THE PROCESS TO EVALUATE MAPPING CAPABILITIES OF BROADBAND SERVICE AND THE ABILITY TO ADMINISTER THOSE GRANTS ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, UH, SUBSIDIES FOR SERVICE AND THE ABILITY TO INCREASE INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE.

THOSE, THOSE ITEMS, UM, THAT ARE LISTED CURRENTLY IN THE BILL WOULD HAVE A TREMENDOUS POSITIVE IMPACT ON TEXAS AND HAVE BENEFITS TO AUSTIN.

THE LENS THAT WE WILL START TO BE A PART OF THE MAPPING, WE WILL START TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE OUR ELIGIBILITY FOR THOSE GRANT FUNDS.

WE WILL START TO BE ABLE TO, UM, WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE AT THE TABLE AND ADVANCING

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FURTHER, UM, ADVOCACY EFFORTS TO TAKE FOR SCALE, THE IMPACT OF THAT OFTEN, AND THIS, UM, BILL DOES REPRESENT AN OPPORTUNITY.

YES, IT HAS A LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT AND I SHOULD JUST CHARACTERIZE THE LEGISLATIVE ACTION WORKING GROUP, WHICH REPRESENTS 13 PLUS PARTNERS, INCLUDING THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAVE BEEN MEETING REGULARLY FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS RELATED TO THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN DOING SO WE SHARE.

AND THE, UM, AND THE, THE SENTIMENT THAT YOU EXPRESSED THAT YES, THERE IS A LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT, BUT THIS BILL DOES NOT GET US EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED, UH, TO, UM, HOWEVER, IT IS A STARTING POINT, OUR GOAL TO ENSURE THAT THOSE EFFORTS TO FURTHER PUSH NOT ONLY OUR LEGISLATIVE, UM, PARTNERS, BUT OUR INDUSTRY PARTNERS AND OUR ANCHOR INSTITUTION PARTNERS IN PURSUING AND ADVANCING THOSE ADVOCACY EFFORTS FURTHER AFTER THE BILL PASSES AS FAR AS A MIDTERM HORIZON.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN SHARING THE UPDATE ON THE BILL, THAT THAT IS REFLECTED AS WELL, AND THAT THAT EFFORT HAS ALREADY BEEN DOCUMENTED BY THE CITY.

AND IT IS A GOAL OF OURS THAT THERE WILL BE MIDTERM OBJECTIVES SET UP AS AN OUTCOME FROM THE BILL.

AND HOPEFULLY THIS PASSES, THE HEARING WILL BE NEXT WEEK, WE WILL, UH, SEND SO THAT WE CAN ADVANCE US.

BUT JUST AS FAR AS THE OVERALL LENS, IT IS A START.

AND IT IS DEFINITELY AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, WORK FROM A STARTING POINT SO THAT WE CAN FURTHER ADVANCE THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I HOPE THAT IT IS REALLY SHAPED FOR AROUND THAT THIS IS NOT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, A, AN, A BILL THAT WILL, WILL STUNT OR, UM, HOLD BACK ANY EFFORTS WITH REGARDS TO JUST THE OVERALL EFFORT THAT IT'S, IT'S A DIRECTION.

AND IT'S ONE THAT WE, UM, CAN HELP ADVANCE EFFORTS THAT CONTINUE BEYOND IT.

WELL, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP CALMING FOR A QUICK QUESTION.

UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, UH, DEFINITION OF IS DEFINED BY THE FCC RULING OF 25 DOWN AND THREE UP, I THINK IT'S FREE UP.

RIGHT.

UM, SO I, I'M NOT CHALLENGING THAT DEFINITION.

WHAT I AM CHALLENGING IS WHAT CONSTITUTES A HOUSEHOLD IS ALREADY CONNECTED TO THE BROADBAND.

IF A STUDENT HAS ACCESS TO BROADBAND FOR SCHOOLWORK TO ISD, DOES THAT CONSTITUTE THAT, THAT HOUSEHOLD ALREADY BACK OR DOES THAT COUNT AS, NO, IT DOESN'T HAVE BROADBAND UNLESS EVERYBODY IN THE HOUSEHOLD IS EMPOWERED.

WELL, JOHN, I MEAN, ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND.

SURE.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE SPOKE TO AISD, UH, THEY'RE A PARTNER, UH, RIGHT IN THAT EFFORT, UH, THEY WERE NEVER THE, THE ACTUAL BROADBAND PROVIDER, RIGHT? SO IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE SCENARIOS, THERE'S THE ACTUAL PROVIDER INVOLVED THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING.

OKAY.

I STAND CORRECTED IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN EVERYONE IN THE HOUSEHOLD WOULD HAVE ACCESS.

WELL, I WANT TO THINK THAT, AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT, THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO, BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S A PROVIDER INVOLVED IN A, UH, FRANKLY CRISIS, UH, BASED SOLUTION THAT THE CITY AND PARTNERS, UH, NONPROFIT AND, AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HELPS TO CREATE.

IT DOESN'T MEAN, UH, THAT THERE'S, UH, EQUITABLE BROADBAND BY ANY MEANS.

THIS DOESN'T MEAN IT'S ACTUALLY EVEN BROAD-BASED RIGHT.

SO IF THE ASD PLUSES HOTSPOTS PROVIDED BY A PROVIDER AND A SOLUTION THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER THAT DOES NOT QUICK TO BROADBAND PER HOUSEHOLD, IF IT'S A SOLUTION THAT CREATED, I THINK, TO MAKE IT WORK.

UM, BUT, UH, WHERE WE NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ADDRESSED, RIGHT? THAT, THAT THOSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE EMERGENCY, YOU KNOW, SOLUTIONS WE CREATED ARE NOT CONSIDERED LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS.

I'M GLAD.

YEAH.

I'M GLAD YOU, YOU SORT OF ELABORATED ON IT BECAUSE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND MY CONCERN BECAUSE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS SINCE 2004, 2019, I'VE BEEN LIVING WITH THE SAME AND IT IS, I GET VERY EMOTIONAL ABOUT THAT.

THAT THERE'S A, SUCH A HUGE CAVITY THERE IN THE RICHEST CITIES IN THE COUNTRY.

THEY SUCK A HUGE CAVITY OF I'M DELIGHTED THAT YOU'RE, YOU LET YOUR INVOLVE AS A GAUGE FAN.

I KNOW THE SENTENCE WAS A BIG PART OF THAT AND OTHER THINGS YOU'VE DONE,

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UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, UH, YOU KNOW, I STARTED WITH THE FOCUS ON VISUAL INCLUSION, UH, WHEN I JOINED THIS COMMISSION.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN OUR MAIN FOCUS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK AS A COMMISSION, IT'S BEEN A FOCUS CLEARLY WITH G TOPS AND THE DIGITAL INCLUSION PLAN.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS BODY HAS HAD AN ONGOING RECORD OF, UH, SUPPORTING THIS EFFORT IN THE COMMUNITY, WORKING WITH TARA AND THE CITY REALLY SUCH TO SOLVE THESE ISSUES.

UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WAIT, THIS HASN'T PASSED YET TODAY? YES.

GO AHEAD PLEASE.

ROOM TONE.

HEY, GOOD, GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONERS.

UH, RON DELLA HAWKINS TELECOM AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS.

YEAH.

I JUST WANTED JUST TO, UM, ECHO, UH, JOHN, UH, DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING THE BILL AND LAY THE ADVOCACY EFFORTS OF THE LARGER CITIES.

UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, OTHER CITIES LIKE SAN ANTONIO AND HOUSTON AND DALLAS AND, AND MANY OTHERS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RANGE, THE, THE PART OF THE POPULATION THAT THIS BILL IS REALLY TARGETING IS RURAL.

UM, AND SO THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, I I'M SURE THAT THOSE OTHER CITIES AND THAT WANT TO BE INCLUDED THE URBAN, THE SUBURBAN, UM, ARE REACHING OUT TO THEIR, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATIVES, UM, AT THE SENATE AND EXPRESSING THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE REFINED.

THE LANGUAGE NEEDS TO BE REFINED TO BE NOT JUST A RURAL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT JUST A RURAL ISSUE.

I MEAN, RURAL ISSUE IS INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT? I MEAN, A LOT OF RURAL COMMUNITIES, THAT'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NOT BUILT OUT, UM, AND LIKE AN AUSTIN INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT THEN THERE'S THE AVAILABILITY, ADOPTION AND AFFORDABILITY.

UM, AND ALSO THE INFRASTRUCTURE MAY NOT BE BUILT OUT HEARING THERE, BUT SO, YEAH, I, IT, YEAH, THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT STOOD OUT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY TO THE LARGER, MID, MID SIZE AND LARGER CITIES THAT IT WAS FOCUSED ON RURAL.

AND ONE WOULD HOPE THAT THERE'LL BE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE AN AMENDMENT WILL BE CARRIED FORWARD.

UM, WE'LL SEE.

BUT I'M HOPING IF IT DOES PASS AS FILED.

I MEAN, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE AMENDMENTS.

LIKE THERE ALWAYS ARE, BUT THE UT SYSTEMS AND THESE OTHER UNIVERSITIES THEY'RE SCATTERED AND THEY'RE ALL OVER URBAN AND RURAL.

AND SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT THEY HAVE SOME AUTHORITY TO EXPAND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, EXPAND BEYOND.

SO YEAH, WE'RE VERY COGNIZANT AND VERY AWARE, UM, OF THE, OF THE ISSUES THAT RE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN OUR URBAN OR URBAN CITY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO JUST SHARE THAT.

THANK YOU FROM PILLAR.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I WANTED TO ADD A LAST THING, I GUESS, MAYBE MORE OF A REQUEST FOR FOLLOW-UP, UM, UH, AS PART OF THE ONGOING EFFORT, IS THERE A WAY WE COULD CONFIRM, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THE, THE EFFORT? UM, I GUESS THE, THE MAIN THING, UH, WHAT WAS IT THERE? I'M SORRY, THEY'LL COME BACK TO ME THOUGH.

AND YOU KNOW, YOU BY THE JUMP, ONE MORE QUESTION, PLEASE GO RIGHT AHEAD.

COMMISSIONER GATES, AND MAYBE WE'LL COME BACK AND FORTH.

NO, YOU QUALIFY RURAL.

UM, AND TO CREATE INFRASTRUCTURE GOVERNMENTS, GOVERNMENT COUNTIES FIGURING INVOLVED IN THE, MOVING OUT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THIS ALL PRIVATE CARRIERS HAVE TO BE INVOLVED.

YOU WERE A LITTLE CHOPPY THERE.

COULD YOU HEAR HIM, JOHN? UM, YEAH, LET ME GIVE IT A SHOT.

SO, UH, AGAIN, THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS PROHIBITED FROM PROVIDING, UH, INTERNET SERVICE TO RESIDENTS, AND THAT INCLUDES THE PROVISION OF INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, WITH REGARDS TO DIRECT, UH, INTERNET INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THAT, THAT IS SEPARATE.

THAT'S A SEPARATE ITEM.

THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE BILL.

UM, SO THAT IS THE CURRENT STATE OF THE STATUTES THAT ARE GOING FORWARD, THAT THERE'S NO CHANGES THERE.

UM, I DO WANT TO SPEAK TO ONE SECOND THERE.

SO THERE'S TWO BILLS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE HEARING NEXT WEEK AND NOT TO COMPLICATE THE EFFORT MERELY JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL THE BIG PICTURE OF HERE'S ALL THE DISCUSSION POINTS THAT WILL BE HEARD AT THE HEARING NEXT WEEK.

SO AGAIN,

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I'M SORRY.

I HEARD BACKGROUND.

UM, SO AGAIN, THE HEARING NEXT WEEK IS WEDNESDAY AT 8:00 AM.

UM, AND YOU CAN GO ON THE STATE LEGISLATURE WEBSITE TO FIND OUT MORE, UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO SEND OUT A LINK AS WELL.

UM, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE, THE HEARING WILL ALSO INCLUDE, UM, DEBATE AROUND THE ACCOMMODATION OF BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE ON STATE'S RIGHTS OF WAY.

SO THIS IS A BILL THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE A PROCESS TO EXPEDITE THE AVAILABILITY OF BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE ON STATE PROPERTY, ESSENTIALLY A STATE RIGHT AWAY.

SO STATE HIGHWAYS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.

UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN THOROUGHFARES IN AUSTIN THAT ARE STATE, UH, THOROUGHFARES Y'ALL MAY KNOW THAT SOUTH CONGRESS IS A STATE THOROUGHFARE OR SOUTH OMAR.

SO THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF WHAT IS DEFINED IN THE BILL.

UM, AND THE, THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN OUR LEGISLATIVE ANALYSIS.

AGAIN, WHAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU IS COMPLETELY PATCHED STOOL.

UH, THIS IS WHAT THE TEXT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE RESPONDED WITHIN TEXT, BUT WE ALSO IN, UH, THEMED THIS BILL THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE HEARING NEXT WEEK AS HAVING A POSITIVE IMPACT AND WHY I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT ONE IS BECAUSE IT ALSO BRINGS CONTEXT TO YOUR POINT, UH, COMMISSIONER YIELDS THAT EVEN WHILE THERE IS NO LEGISLATION THAT IS OPENING UP AVAILABILITY OF UMIT, MUNICIPALITIES PROVIDING ANY SORT OF INFRASTRUCTURE OR ANY SORT OF ACCOMMODATION PROCESS, ANY SORT OF ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE THERE, WE ARE SEEING GREATER OPPORTUNITY WITH REGARDS TO STATE, RIGHT OF WAY OPENING UP AND THE AVAILABILITY AND ACCOMMODATION OF CONSIDERING BROADBAND INFRASTRUCTURE BEING INSTALLED IN STATE RUNAWAY.

SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT FLIGHT LIFE WOULD BE THE DREAM.

HOWEVER, IT DOES ADVANCE THE AVAILABILITY OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS.

UM, SO THAT IS ALSO A BILL THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED IN THE SAME HEARING THAT'S WEDNESDAY MORNING.

UM, AND SO THAT THEY'LL IS SENATE BILL FIVE OH SEVEN.

THIS IS RELATING TO AN ACCOMMODATION PROCESS AUTHORIZING THE STATE HIGHWAY RIGHTS OF WAY BY BROADBAND ONLY PROVIDERS.

THAT'S HUGE.

THAT IS HUGE.

UH, AND I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS GOING TO ASK AND IT'S RELATED TO THAT SOMEWHAT THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S MORE COMMENTS THAN A QUESTION OF, IN TERMS OF WHY UT SYSTEM IS INVOLVED.

UH, I THINK STATE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT, UH, IN ADDITION TO STATE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT QUALITY, IT'S PART OF THAT, UH, RIGHT.

I MEAN, THE UT SYSTEM IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST, UH, CHECK PROVIDERS IN THE STATE.

SO IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE THAT THAT UT SYSTEM WILL BE INVOLVED.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

OKAY, GREAT.

THAT WAS A GREAT UPDATE.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT, JOHN.

UH, APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I'M PROCEEDING THEN WITH OUR AGENDA, UH, TO

[2.b. Grant for Technology Opportunities Program – Brief update on applications submitted (Jesse Rodriguez, Business Process Specialist – Telecommunications and Regulatory Affairs)]

ITEM TWO B THE GRAPH TECHNOLOGY OPPORTUNITIES PROGRAM, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A BRIEF UPDATE ON APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY JESSE RODRIGUEZ, OUR PROCESS BUSINESS PROCESS SPECIALIST.

HI JESSE.

HELLO COMMISSIONERS, JESSE RODRIGUEZ WITH TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS.

UM, WE ARE PULLING UP THE PRESENTATION.

NOW I HAVE A VERY QUICK PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL, JUST UPDATING YOU ON THE GRANT FOR TECHNOLOGY OPPORTUNITIES, UH, PROCESS AND THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE PERCEIVED AT THIS STAGE, UM, IN, IN CONSISTENCY WITH OUR ONGOING UPDATES ON THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

UH, SO OUR FIRST SLIDE HERE, UM, MOVING ALONG IS A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 28 WERE FILED.

UH, IMPORTANTLY, 13 OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE NEVER RECEIVED FUNDING, UH, BEFORE.

AND THAT'S DIVIDED BETWEEN EIGHT ORGANIZATIONS WHERE NEW TO G TOPS COMPLETELY AND FIVE ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE PREVIOUS APPLICANTS, BUT HAVE NEVER BEEN AWARDED FUNDING.

UM, THE FINANCIALS

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OF THE REQUESTS ARE THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 869,500 IN REQUESTS FOR FUNDS TO SUPPORT A TOTAL PROGRAMMING PROPOSED PROGRAMMING OF 4,000,040 $3,000.

UH, AN ADDITIONAL SEVEN ORGANIZATIONS HAD APPLIED FOR, UH, THAT OR SUBMITTED A LETTER OF INTEREST INDICATING INTEREST IN THE PROCESS, BUT EITHER WITHDREW OR DID NOT COMPLETE THEIR APPLICATIONS, UM, AND ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE 28 APPLICATIONS RECEIVED THOSE SEVEN ORGANIZATIONS WILL HOWEVER, BE REACHED OUT TO AS PART OF THE ANNUAL REVIEW PROCESS TO, UH, GET ANY FEEDBACK ON, UH, WHAT MIGHT'VE CAUSED THEM TO DROP OUT OF THE PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN IMPROVE, UH, THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, HOW OUR APPLICATIONS ARE DIVIDED.

UH, TH THIS IS JUST A QUICK BREAKOUT OF THE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED.

UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TOPICAL FOCUS AREAS, AND WE HAD SIX ORGANIZATIONS APPLY FOR THE COLLABORATIVE FOCUS AREA, MEANING THAT THEY'RE ACTIVELY INSIGNIFICANTLY WORKING OR PARTNERING WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION TO PERFORM THEIR PROPOSED PROGRAMMING.

WE HAVE THREE ORGANIZATIONS THAT, UH, ARE SUBMITTING UNDER THE CREATIVE MEDIA FOCUS AREA.

SO THOSE ARE, UH, PROGRAMS THAT FOCUS ON THE INTERSECTION OF THE CREATIVE MEDIA SECTOR AND DIGITAL EQUITY.

SO THINK ABOUT, UM, FILM, UH, OR PHOTOGRAPHY OR PODCASTING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND WE HAD NINE ORGANIZATIONS APPLY FOR THE IT WORKFORCE, UH, SKILLS.

SO THINK ABOUT CODING OR, UH, HARDWARE REFURBISHMENT OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL A BROAD OVERVIEW OF HOW THE APPLICATIONS, UH, SEE THEIR OWN APPLICATION, THE ORGANIZATION, SEE THEIR OWN APPLICATIONS FITTING WITHIN THE G TOPS PRIORITY AREAS.

THREE ONLY THREE OF THEM FOCUS ON ACCESS TO THE INTERNET AS THEIR PRIMARY, UH, G TOPS GOAL FOCUS, 14 INDICATE THAT KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS IS THEIR PRIMARY FOCUS AREA AND 11 HAVE THEIR PRIMARY FOCUS AS ACCESS TO DEVICES.

UH, SO THOSE ARE THE SUMMARY STATISTICS THAT WE HAVE, UH, COLLECTED TOGETHER ON THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

UH, AS A CLOSING NOTE HERE, UH, THE FIRST ROUND SCORES ARE GOING TO BE DUE OR ARE DUE AT THE END OF THE DAY TODAY.

AND, UH, THE NEXT STEP IS GOING TO BE A QUESTION AND ANSWER PROCESS, UH, THAT, UH, WILL ALLOW FOR MORE, UM, UH, A SLIGHT BIT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE REVIEWERS AND THE, UH, THE APPLICANTS.

AND THEN ROUND TWO SCORING IS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 6TH.

SO WITH THAT TIMELINE IN MIND, UM, AROUND APRIL 6TH TO EIGHTH, IS WHEN WE'LL HAVE A FINAL SET OF PROPOSED AWARDEES.

AND SO ASSUMING THAT WE CAN MEET THOSE DEADLINES, WE INTEND ON COMING TO THE COMMISSION AND DURING YOUR APRIL MEETING FOR A FINAL APPROVAL OF THE 20, 21 G TOPS AWARDEES.

UM, SO THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE FOR YOU ALL.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS PHASE OF THE PROCESS, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND JUST GIVE YOU ALL A QUICK UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE GRANT FOR TECHNOLOGY OPPORTUNITIES PROGRAM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JESSE.

THAT WAS A GREAT UPDATE, LOVE VIA INFOGRAPHICS.

APPRECIATE YOU, KEEPING IT FRESH AND, UH, AND IMPACTFUL, UH, WITH THAT.

I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY, GREAT.

VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD.

THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD STUFF.

IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM.

GLAD TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS AND JESSE TO, SO, YOU KNOW HOW IT WILL BE A MEETING TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO GET THAT BINDER FROM YOU.

UH, SOME POINT IN TIME THIS WEEK, I STILL PLAN ON DOING THAT.

UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION, UH, YES.

COMMISSIONER DASGUPTA WE CAN'T COMMISSIONER DESCRIPTOR YOU'RE STILL NEEDED.

OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT.

OKAY.

SO COMPARED TO, LET'S SAY 2018, BECAUSE I MEAN, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.

2019, BECAUSE 2020 WE HAD JUST ENTERED

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THE COVID, ET CETERA.

IF I COMPARE WITH 2019, IS IT A FAIR COMPARISON TO ASK THE QUESTION? HOW WELL ARE WE DOING IN THE VIS-A-VIS THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS FROM GRADE 2019? YEAH, THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION FOR SURE.

UM, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME, BUT WE ARE ROUGHLY ON PAR WITH THE, UH, 2019 CYCLE.

THE 2020 CYCLE SAW A BIT OF A DIP IN THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS WE HAD ROUGHLY, UH, 20 APPLICATIONS THAT WERE, UH, MOVING INTO FIRST ROUND SCORING.

UM, BUT THE, THE YEAR PRIOR WERE ROUGHLY ON PAR, I BELIEVE WE DID HAVE 28 APPLICATIONS IN FIRST ROUND SCORING AS WELL.

CORRECT.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

GOOD QUESTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

WELL, GREAT WITH THAT THEN I THINK WE'RE GOOD TO GO.

THANK YOU AGAIN, JESSE.

APPRECIATE THE GREAT WORK.

ABSOLUTELY PROCEED WITH OUR AGENDA TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, NEW BUSINESS DISCUSSION

[3.a. FY 22 Budget Recommendations (Commission Discussion and Possible Action)]

AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

WE FYI 22 BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, NOW WE OF COURSE, WENT INTO DISCUSSING SEVERAL, UM, AND THIS WILL BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PERHAPS LET'S, UH, COMMISSIONER GUIRO ABSORB SOME OF THE DISCUSSION HERE AND PARTICIPATE BASED ON OF THE AGENDA, BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, WE DID DISCUSS RECOMMENDATIONS QUITE A BIT IN OUR LAST AGENDA, AND WE WILL BE CONTINUING ON SOME OF THESE SAME TOPICS.

UH, ALTHOUGH WE DID NOT APPROVE THE AGENDA, WE DID MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE $1,500 FOR THE GRANT FOR TECHNOLOGY OPPORTUNITIES PROGRAM, AND THAT WAS SUBMITTED.

AND I KNOW REBEL CONFIRMED THAT YESTERDAY.

UH, SO THANKS AGAIN FOR THAT, UH, INNOVATION AND, UH, SUPPORT FOR THE PROGRAM WHEN IT COMES TO THE OTHER THINGS.

UH, THE TWO MAJOR THINGS WE DISCUSSED IN OUR LAST MEETING WERE THE REMOTE PARTICIPATION WITH COMMISSION MEETINGS, RATHER REMOTE PARTICIPATION ACT COMMISSION MEETINGS, AND THE TABLATURE OF COUNCIL VOTE RECORDS, UH, TO BEGIN, UH, AND REFRESH.

WE REACHED OUT TO CITY CLERK'S OFFICE TO GET INSIGHTS, AND WE DID RECEIVE, UH, OFFICIAL RESPONSES THAT I WILL READ INTO THE RECORD, UH, FOR EVERYONE.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION AND, UH, SETTLEMENT STEPS REACTIONS IN THE MARKETPLACE WHEN IT COMES TO REMOTE PARTICIPATION.

FIRST OFF, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT WE RECEIVED ANOTHER EXTENSION OF THE, OF THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, RIGHT? WE ALL KNOW WE GOT THAT IN OUR EMAILS.

IF YOU DIDN'T PLEASE BE INFORMED THAT WE DID SEE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE MATTER, UH, WE PLAINLY ASKED THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, WHAT ARE THE PLANS? THE COURT'S OFFICE HAS TO MAKE PERMANENT REMOTE AWFUL FOR COMMISSIONERS THEIR ANSWER AT THIS TIME, HAVE ANY PLANS REQUIRE FUNDING? WELL, WE HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO CTM AND ATX, AND TO KNOW WHAT THE FUNDING RESOURCES WOULD BE.

NOW, WE DID ACTUALLY DISCUSS THIS AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL, AND WE ARRIVED AT THE CONSENSUS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THE ONUS OFF OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO REACH OUT TO CTM AND HEX EM, TO FIND OUT WHAT THE FUNDING AND RESOURCES WOULD BE.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE, WE RESOLVED AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND TO SEE IF WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

UM, I'D ASK AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS COUNCIL TO HAVE THEM CREATE A RESOLUTION AND SEND THAT TO CONSOLE, TO SEE IF THAT WOULD CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE INCENTIVE TO DO SOMETHING.

THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER POSSIBLE ACTIONS WE COULD TAKE LITERALLY IS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, START, UH, YOU KNOW, A RESOLUTION CAMPAIGN WHERE WE GO, WE APPROACH COMMISSIONS AND, AND GET IN, AND BASICALLY GARNER SUPPORT FOR THIS EFFORT.

UM, AT THE SAME TIME,

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FROM A LOGISTICAL STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, CUTTING TO THE CHASE OF GETTING IT DONE.

UH, I THINK THE, THE POINT IS WELL TAKEN THAT SOMEONE NEEDS TO TALK TO CTM AND ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED, RIGHT? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

THEN IF WE REALLY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, LEAD THIS EFFORT, THEN WE NEED TO, THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE SHOULD BE SHOOTING FOR.

IT WAS IF THEY WOULD HAVE THIS INFORMATION ALREADY, SINCE WE'RE ALREADY DOING THIS WELL, WELL, WELL NOW WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A WEBEX.

UM, AND WE'RE DOING IT, UM, AT TO SOME EXTENT, RIGHT? SO ONLY COMMISSIONS THAT ACTUALLY HAVE RECORDED MEETINGS, UM, BY HAVE TO USE WEBEX.

THERE ARE, THERE ARE ACTUALLY COMMISSIONS USING ZOOM RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE RECORDED.

WE DO.

AND SO ONLY CERTAIN NUMBERS OF COMMISSIONS ARE GOING TO BE USING THE SET UP WE'RE USING NOW.

UM, RIGHT.

SO X NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS WOULD HAVE TO BE SUPPORTED BY RESOURCES AND STAFF, UH, IN ADDITION, UH, BUT THEN AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME REQUIREMENTS, THEN MAYBE IT'S NOT SO DIFFICULT, RIGHT.

MAYBE IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UH, YOU KNOW, BRANDING CHOICES FOR PEOPLE WITH THEIR OWN, UH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S SOON THAT THEY WANT TO USE, UH, IF THEY HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OR IF IT'S TEAMS AND THEY'VE GOT THE FLEXIBILITY.

AND ALSO IT'S, WE'RE BOUND TO USE THIS BECAUSE WE'RE PART OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TIED TO TERROR AND WE HAVE TO BE RECORDED AND BROADCAST THEN, SO BE IT.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER ENTITIES THAT HAVE THAT CHALLENGE TOO.

WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE, UH, CHAMPIONS.

I, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BY TALKING TO CTO.

SO WHAT IS THE TECHNOLOGICAL CHALLENGE TO MAKE THIS, THE PREVALENT MODE OF MEETING GOING FORWARD? BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THE CITY CLERK IS PUSHING BACK ON US, I THINK THERE'S A DISTINCT MESSAGE WE'RE GETTING FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE SAY WE ARE INTERESTED.

SO WE NEED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND FROM THE CITY CLERK'S POINT OF VIEW, WHAT IS IT THAT THEY ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT? IS IT REALLY A CTM QUESTION OR IS IT A MORE RESOURCE QUESTION IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE? SO I THINK WE SHOULD INVITE NOT ONLY CTL, BUT INVITE THE CITY CLERK TO COME AND TELL US IN ONE OF THESE MEETINGS SO THAT IT CAN BE RECORDED, WHAT THE CIVIC CLERK'S POSITION IS.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND.

I UNDERSTAND.

I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE KIND OF SETTLED THIS THOUGH IN THE PAST ALREADY AS BODY THAT WANTS TO, WE CLEARLY DEPEND ON THE CITY CLERK, UH, FOR A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO.

AND, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, UH, SURELY WE CAN EMPATHIZE, UH, WITH, UH, RESOURCE CRUNCH WITH A, YOU KNOW, MASSIVE BUDGET CUT.

UM, WHEN YOU HAVE AN APARTMENT LITERALLY SAYING IT WOULD REQUIRE FUNDING, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO CTM AND EXEC'S DONE TO KNOW WHAT THE FUNDING AND RESOURCES WOULD BE.

WE ARE STILL, UH, AS A BODY, UH, DO A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE ON CERTAIN THINGS FROM CCM ANYWAY.

UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ENGAGE THEM IN OUR LANE.

UM, I THINK THAT WE COULD HELP BY, UH, JESSE, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN.

UH, WE HAVE, WE SHOULD HAVE A FAIRLY EASY WAY TO CONFIRM WHICH COMMISSIONS ACTUALLY BROADCAST, RIGHT.

WHICH COMMISSIONS, UH, REQUIRE ATX M RESOURCES BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S ONLY CERTAIN NUMBERS THAT RESERVE MEETINGS AND AT THE AUSTIN PUBLIC, OR, UM, AND THE, YOU KNOW, IN CITY COUNCIL ROOM, RIGHT.

I MEAN CONSUMPTION, BUT I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

HE'S EASILY.

AYE.

YES.

YOU'RE A PRINCE.

I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME, SOME AVENUES THAT WE COULD PURSUE, I, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK SOME ITEMS LIKE A SIMPLE WAY WOULD JUST BE TO LOOK AT CHANNEL SIX, AUSTIN'S A WEBSITE, THEIR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TAB AND SEE HOW MANY COMMISSIONS, UH, UH, UH, RECORDING OVER THE PAST MONTH OR TWO MONTHS TO GIVE, GIVE US A BALLPARK FIGURE.

UM, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT TO ATX N DIRECTLY AND, AND SEE IF THEY HAVE A PRECISE NUMBER AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT'D BE HELPFUL AT LEAST, UH, TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT IT IS A RESOURCE ISSUE.

UH, AT LEAST FROM MY UNDERSTANDING PREVIOUS MESSAGES AND MEETINGS, UM, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A FEAR FACTOR, NOT KNOWING, UM, YOU KNOW, SO MY HOPE IS WE CAN GET SOME ANSWERS, UM, BY GOING TO

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THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, THEY SEEM TO THINK HAVE ANSWERS.

YES.

AND, AND TIRPITZ JUST, IF I CAN ADD ONE OTHER PIECE OF CONTEXT, UH, PURSUANT TO THE LAST WORKING GROUP MEETING DISCUSSION, WE DID REACH OUT TO ATX N AND TO CTM, TO REQUEST, UH, ANY BUDGET ESTIMATE THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE TO THEM FOR THIS EFFORT, THE ATX AND REPRESENTATIVE INDICATED THAT HE DOESN'T THINK THAT IT WOULD IMPACT ATX N'S, UH, FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

UH, THE CTM CONTACT INDICATED THAT THERE WOULD BE A POTENTIAL LICENSE PER PURCHASES AND ADDITIONAL STAFFING REQUIREMENTS, UH, BUT THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE A, UH, COST US A PRECISE COST ESTIMATE AT THIS TIME EITHER.

UM, WE DID INDICATE TO HIM THAT IF, IF IT COULD BE PULLED TOGETHER PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, THAT WOULD BE MOST BENEFICIAL.

UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK.

UH, SO THAT IS AN ONGOING CONVERSATION, BUT JUST SO THAT Y'ALL ARE AWARE, UH, THAT NEXT STEP HAS BEEN TAKEN TO BRING IT TO CTM AND ATX AND DIRECTLY THAT'S GREAT NEWS.

SO WE KNOW BIN ATX THEN FEELS LIKE THEY'RE FINE, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT CTM SAYS.

UH, AND THEN HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE A SIMPLE PROPOSAL DISCUSSION WITH OTHER CARTS, OFFS, THAT POINT ABOUT LOGISTICS.

UH, BUT THANK YOU AGAIN, FOR, FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, ONE ABOUT THIS? I'VE GOT A QUESTION.

SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE FIRST STEP, UH, LEGISLATOR, IN OTHER WORDS, WE'VE GOT TO GET COUNCIL TO PASS A RESOLUTION, STUDYING THAT BOARDS AND CONDITIONS CAN MEET, PROMOTE MEETS, AND THEN WE CAN SOLVE THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS, THE FIRST STEP, WHICH IS NECESSARY, UM, SHOULD COST NO MONEY.

AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY COUNCIL CAN'T DO THAT NOW.

WELL, DIDN'T, WE ALREADY PUT IN A REQUEST FOR COUNCIL ACTION.

SO HAVE WE GOTTEN AN, A, ANY KIND OF RESPONSE FROM THAT COMMISSIONER YATES? YES, WE DID, UH, SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA ITEM.

WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THAT AS OF YET, AND, BUT WE HAVE SENT AN EMAIL ASKING FOR AN UPDATE TO SEE WHERE IT WAS.

WE SENT THAT OUT, I BELIEVE, EARLY LAST WEEK.

UM, AND, AND STILL HAVEN'T HEARD BACK ON, UH, UH, A DATE OR ANY OTHER INFORMATION ON THE NEXT STEPS FOR THAT, BUT YOUR BROADER TO YOUR BROADER POINT, UH, THAT IS CORRECT.

W W THE MOST PRESSING ISSUE IS A POLICY QUESTION.

SO ONCE THE STATE'S EMERGENCY ORDERS SUSPENDING CERTAIN TOMA REQUIREMENTS LIFTS, IT THEN BECOMES A, UH, A MATTER OF WHAT IS THE CITY'S RESTRICTIONS, WHICH HAVE NOT CHANGED.

AND SO IT GOES BACK TO BACK TO THAT QUESTION.

SO THE POLICY QUESTION IS CERTAINLY THE MORE PRESSING ONE, UH, GIVEN THAT THE EMERGENCY ORDER, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE, UM, SUSPENDED AT THE STATE LEVEL.

OKAY.

SO THAT, UH, REQUEST FOR COUNSEL COMMITTEE AGENDA, UM, DOES THAT HAVE SOME CLAIM NUMBER OR SOME KIND OF IDENTIFY BARK THAT I COULD USE SO THAT I COULD SEND THAT OUT TO COUNCIL AND THEY CAN INUNDATE EVERYONE ON COUNCIL WITH THIS REQUEST? UM, IS THERE ANY IDENTIFYING FEATURE OF THIS REQUEST OR SOME NUMBER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR A DATE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, BECAUSE I'M NOT NECESSARILY AN ADVOCATE OF INUNDATING ANYONE WELL, THAT'S DEMOCRACY AS I SEE IT.

UH, SO I WILL REPHRASE THAT.

AND WHAT WE NEED IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT CAN IDENTIFY THE, UH, THE COST PER COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA, UM, SO THAT WE CAN PETITION COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ACTUALLY GET IT ON TO A, UH, UM, A WORKING GROUP COMMITTEE.

IS THERE A, SOME KIND OF

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IDENTIFICATION? UH, YES.

AS FAR? WELL, THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUEST DOES HAVE A NUMBER THAT WE FILED THE DUNDER I'M, I'M LESS CERTAIN ON IF THAT SAME NUMBER WILL CARRY OVER ONTO THE, UH, THE COMMITTEE'S AGENDA.

BUT, UH, I THINK THAT IT DOES CARRY OVER AND THAT NUMBER IS, UH, IT'S POSTED, UH, FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SEE ON THE DECEMBER 9TH, 2020, UH, MEETING FOR THIS COMMISSION, THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUEST POSTING.

AND THE NUMBER IS 2021, TWO ZERO NINE DASH THREE B.

AND SO, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THAT IS THE IDENTIFIER THAT IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'LL LOOK THAT UP.

THANK YOU, MR. GATES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO, I WANT TO ASK, WE WERE RECOMMENDING THAT IT'S WE LEAVE THE OPTION TO, UH, ATTEND REMOTELY FOR COMMISSIONERS OR FOR ALL PARTICIPANTS IN A MEETING, INCLUDING CITIZENS, VACATIONS AND DINNERS.

UM, I BELIEVE, UH, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN OR THIS HAS EVOLVED IN ANYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS, UH, THAT WE'RE PURSUING IS A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE STARTED TO WORK ON AND WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, BASICALLY.

RIGHT.

UM, AS COMMISSIONERS, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME OTHER SUBTLETIES, BUT YOU MAY HAVE A REASON FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.

I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF YOU.

DOES THAT HELP TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY.

UH, BECAUSE W WHAT I THINK ABOUT WHEN I HEAR THE QUESTION IS, UM, THE FACT THAT SINCE THAT ENGAGEMENT, UH, WILL THEN COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT ONE COULD INTIMATE AN IMPLIED RISK WITH CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT THAT SOMEHOW AS A BODY, UH, WE FEEL AS THOUGH WE SHOULDN'T CHAIR, AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

YEAH.

I AGREE.

I THINK THE, THE, UM, THE REASONING BEHIND MY QUESTION IS I THINK, UM, THAT WOULD INVOLVE A DIFFERENT SET OF REQUIREMENTS, UM, TO SUPPORT AND A DIFFERENT, UH, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO SUPPORT POTENTIALLY, UM, EVEN JUST ORGANIZING CITIZEN, UH, COMMUNICATIONS ONLINE VERSUS HOW IT'S DONE IN PERSON AND MANAGING THE TWO AND BOTH.

RIGHT.

UM, SO THAT, THAT, WHILE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT BUILDING REQUIREMENTS, I WANTED TO CLEAR THAT PART OUT NETWORK, UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, UH, THESE REQUIREMENTS, UM, ARE THINGS WE SHOULD BE EVALUATING, RIGHT? BECAUSE TO ME A SOLUTION THAT MAKES IT, UH, SO THAT EVERY COMMISSIONER IN OFTEN CAN COMMUNICATE REMOTELY SO THAT THEY'RE SAFE, BUT THEN CITIZENS THAT THEY WANT TO ENGAGE, UH, HAVE TO GO TO CITY HALL, UM, AND EXPOSE THEMSELVES TO RISK THAT DYNAMIC IS NOT COOL WITH ME.

UM, PERSONALLY.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF THESE REQUIREMENTS, UM, AND BE HOLISTIC AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS AND THAT, NOT JUST THE ONES THAT IMPACT US, UH, BUT OBVIOUSLY OUR CONSTITUENTS, SINCE WE, WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO FOCUS ON CITIZENS, CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT, AS PART OF OUR MISSION.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO, RIGHT.

SO RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT CITIZENS CAN COMMUNICATE, WAIT FOR LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL DURING MEETINGS, UM, THEY PHONE IN.

AND SO THIS, JUST HAVING A PHONE IS PRETTY MUCH UNIVERSAL ACCESS.

AND SO THEY DON'T NEED TO HAVE A COMPUTER OR ANY KIND OF A ZOOM CALL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO THAT'S A FAIRLY LOW BAR IN TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY AND FINANCE.

AND THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REQUIREMENT.

THAT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE WE GOT A WORKING LIST.

UM, I HAVE A QUESTION RIGHT NOW, LIKE TODAY, IF, IF THERE HAD BEEN SOMEONE WHO WANTED TO, UM, ENGAGE IN OUR MEETING, UM, WOULD THEY HAVE HAD, BECAUSE WE ARE REMOTE ENTIRELY REMOTE RIGHT NOW, WHAT THEY HAVE HAD TO COMMUNICATE THAT AHEAD OF TIME, UM, TO GET ON THE SCHEDULE AND GET THE LINK, OR,

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UH, HELLO, COMMISSIONER GARA.

YES.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THE WAY THAT CITIZEN COMMUNICATION IS CURRENTLY HANDLED IS THAT THEY WOULD REACH OUT TO ME AT LEAST 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE.

SO THAT'S THE STANDARD THAT'S BEEN SET BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS THAT, UH, IF, IF WE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF A CITIZEN COMMUNITY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO COMMUNICATE 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE, THEN WE WOULD, UH, COMMUNICATE THAT TO, UH, CHAIR PITS SO THAT HE'S AWARE, UH, THAT WE DO HAVE CITIZEN COMMUNICATORS.

WE WOULD THEN PULL THEM INTO THE, UH, THE PRES, UH, UH, SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THE WEBEX PLATFORM THAT, THAT WE HAVE HERE.

THERE'S, UH, A SIDE WHERE EVERYBODY HAS THEIR PANEL LISTED FOR THE PUBLIC, AND THEN THERE'S A BACKSIDE WHERE PEOPLE CAN WAIT AND, UH, DIGITAL LOBBY, UH, ESSENTIALLY, UH, CITIZEN COMMUNICATORS WOULD PRESENT, UH, THEIR, THEIR COMMUNICATIONS FROM THAT LOBBY.

UM, AND THAT LOBBY CAN BE CALLED INTO VIA A PHONE NUMBER, OR IT CAN BE ACCESSED, UH, VIA A WEBEX LINK.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

AND THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER, BECAUSE THEN IF WE HAVE AN EVOLUTION BACK TOWARDS, UH, THE LIFTING OF THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION IT'LL MEAN THEN, UH, THAT, UM, STATUS QUO WILL BE, OF COURSE, BACK AT CITY HALL, CITIZENS WILL THEN AT THAT POINT BE REQUIRED TO COME TO CITY HALL TO, TO SPEAK.

UM, AND I GUESS THE, THEN ULTIMATELY, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S AN ACCOMMODATION FOR THOSE.

IF WE FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN ACCOMMODATION OR REQUIREMENT THAT SOMEONE HAVE A PHONE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, UM, WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE WAY THINGS WERE BEFORE, THEY JUST HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WALK THE SIGN UP AHEAD OF TIME, WHICH THEY COULD DO USING A KIOSK AT CITY HALL AND THEN WALK IN THE DOOR WHEN IT WAS THEIR TIME TO SPEAK, UNLESS UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, THAT'S ALL THEY HAD TO DO BEFORE.

THAT CAN CORRECT JESSE.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

AND, UH, JUST SO THAT, UH, Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT, THE CURRENT SITUATION.

UH, SO I AM AT CITY HALL, UH,