* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] SO I AM SOME, WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, WE HAVE SIX. SO, UM, WE HAVE A QUORUM AND I'M [Call to Order] GOING TO, UH, CALL THE ROLL. WE READY? UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, KOSTA PRESENT THERE. I'M HERE. UH, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER BRAY. IF I COULD. I KNOW, I SEE HIM. HI, UH, COMMISSIONER DINKLER MISSIONARY KING SNORKEL BOSSES, OUR COMMISSIONER RAY YOU'RE MR. SMITH HERE, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON LOOKS LIKE HASN'T JOINED US. COMMISSIONER. WOODY ALSO HAS NOT JOINED US YET. SO, UM, I'M GONNA NEXT [Reading of the Agenda] [Consent Agenda] READ THE, UM, CONSENT AGENDA. SO WE HAVE FIRST A ONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM MARCH 2ND, 2021. IS A REZONING C 14 2020 ZERO ONE THREE ONE FPT APARTMENTS. AND THAT IS A DISCUSSION FOR PERS POSTPONEMENT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUESTING POSTPONING UNTIL MAY 4TH. B TWO IS A REZONING C 14 2020 ZERO ONE FIVE TWO PIERCE GARDENS RETAIL, WHICH IS ALSO RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. SEE COMMISSIONER THOMPSON HAS JOINED US. UM, B3 IS ALSO A REZONING 2021 ZERO ZERO ONE THREE, KENNETH AND MILDRED THREADGILL HOUSE RE RECOMMENDED. AND IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE IS A CONSENT AGREEMENT, C 12 M 2020 ZERO ONE SIX ZERO M M D PETITION FOR CONSENT. AND THAT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY STAFF B FIVE IS A SITE PLAN EXTENSION SP 2015 ZERO FIVE ZERO SEVEN D X TO X T TO TRAVAASA IMPROVEMENT SPACE, TWO THAT'S RECOMMENDED AND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, WE MAY HAVE A SPEAKER SIGNED UP IN NEUTRAL. IS THIS THE RIGHT TIME TO HEAR FROM THEM OR DO I WAIT UNTIL I'M DONE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LAYS ON HANDOVER. YOU CAN, UM, GO THROUGH THE, UM, FINISH OF THE CONSENT AND THEN COME BACK. OKAY. OKAY. B SIX IS A SITE PLAN IT'S SP 2019 ZERO ONE SEVEN ZERO C ALLEGRO PARMER. AND IT'S RECOMMENDED WITH CONDITIONS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. B SEVEN IS SITE PLAN EXTENSION SP 2012 ZERO THREE SEVEN ZERO X T3. RIATA CORPORATE PARK BUILDING ONE AND IT'S RECOMMENDED. UM, AND THESE EIGHT IS A SITE PLAN SPC 2020 ZERO ONE SIX EIGHT MULTIFAMILY ALSO RECOMMENDED. SO WE WILL REQUEST A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO HEAR FROM, IS IT MS. LOPEZ? THIS IS HER NAME PARIS. YES. UH, COMMISSIONER DANCER. WE PULL, UH, THE SPEAKER MS. PEREZ, JUST PULL THAT ITEM OFF. AND DID MR. WOODY BLOND? I BELIEVE SHE'S NOT HERE YET, BUT I UNDERSTOOD. HE WANTED TO JUST SECOND, UM, ITEM, POLL, B2. I HAD HEARD THAT AS WELL, AND I'M HAPPY TO PULL THAT IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO LET'S PULL IN THAT HOPES THAT HE'LL GET HERE IN A FEW MOMENTS JUST FOR, UM, UH, THE OTHER ITEM RELATING TO THE SITE PLAN EXTENSION WHERE THERE'S A SPEAKER, LET'S JUST PULL THAT OFF CONSENT SO WE CAN HEAR THEM. OKAY. SO THE CONSENT AGENDA IS A ONE THERE'S COMMISSIONER WOODY, A ONE B ONE B3 BEFORE B SIX, B SEVEN AND B EIGHT. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE VICE CHAIR, HUH? YES. UH, UH, I GUESS CHAIR VICE CHAIR TONIGHT. SO, UH, UH, ON THE ITEM, UH, THAT COMMISSIONER KEN CARPOOLED, UH, THE ONE WITH THE SPEAKER THAT'S SPEAKING NEUTRAL. UM, AND IT JUST, I GUESS THIS IS IF I MAY DIRECT THIS TO COMMISSIONER DANK OR THERE, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER DANGLER. DO YOU WANT TO HEAR THAT CASE OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO HEAR THE SPEAKER? LET'S PULL IT, PULL IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE PULLING THE OTHER ONE FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, WOODY. HE WANTED TO, AND I SEE NOW HE'S JOINED US, SO HE WANTED TO PULL THAT ITEM TO THE THANK YOU. SO I'LL READ THE CONSENT AGENDA AGAIN. IT'S A ONE B ONE B3 BEFORE, I'M SORRY. A ONE B3 BEFORE B SIX, B SEVEN AND B EIGHT BEFORE, AS I HAD SAID THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE BEFORE, SINCE IT WAS WITHDRAWN BY STAFF. [00:05:03] NO. OKAY. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS ITEM A ONE B THREE B SIX, B SEVEN, B EIGHT SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SMITH. AND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER. DINKLER ALL THOSE IN FAVOR UNANIMOUS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM B ONE. ALTHOUGH FIRST I WOULD LIKE COMMISSIONER, WHAT DO YOU, DO YOU MIND INTRODUCING YOURSELF QUICKLY? HI, WELCOME. AND, UH, YES, GO AHEAD. HOW'S IT GOING FOLKS? MY NAME IS ROY WOODY. UH, YEAH, I LIVE IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN. UM, MY WIFE SUSANNA WOODY'S ON THE DUB ICY SCHOOL BOARD, AND I'M PART OF THE DOPE ADDICT COMMUNITY COALITION AND YEP. I WORK AT A ADVANCED MICRO DEVICES. UH, AND YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT IT. I HAVE THREE KIDS AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. ALL RIGHT. WELL WELCOME. THANKS FOR JOINING US. UM, SO WE WILL, YEAH. UH, OKAY. I DON'T UM, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER KING. OH, YOU'RE ON MUTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, CHAIR, I JUST WAS, UH, THE, THE SPEAKER THAT WAS GOING TO SPEAK, UH, WE PULLED THAT ITEM. SO NOT GOING TO NEED TO HEAR THAT UNTIL WE PULLED OUT. I GOT YOU. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO DO B ONE FIRST. WANT TO BE FIRST SINCE WE HAVE A SPEAKER NEUTRAL. OKAY. I'M I'M FINE WITH DOING FIRST. SINCE I PRESENT ALREADY ON THE TIME CHAIR, CHAIR, COMMISSION-WISE ON ANDOVER. SO WE HAVE A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT ON B ONE. WE'RE GONNA HIT A, B FIVE FIRST A HEIGHT JUST TO GET RID OF GET, GO THROUGH THE EASY ONE, BECAUSE IT'S NEW, SHE'S NEUTRAL AND SHE'S ALREADY ON THE PHONE. CAN WE DO THAT? TARA CAN COMMISSIONER KING. I, I, I THINK I AGREE WITH THIS. UH, BUT I THINK, UH, ANDREW MAY BE REFERRING TO, I GUESS OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR PRACTICE HAS BEEN TO DO THE POSTPONEMENT CASES FIRST, SO, BUT I'M FINE TO THIS ONE FIRST, REALLY? NUMBER FIVE. I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS HERE. WE COULD GET THAT ONE OUT OF THE WAY. I DON'T THINK IT VIOLATES ANY OF OUR POLICIES OR ANY OTHER RULES THAT WE HAVE. I THINK IT'S JUST A PRACTICE WE HAD. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO ANDREW, IS THAT OKAY? YEAH. SO [B5. Site Plan Extension: SP-2015-0507D(XT2) - Travaasa Improvements Phase 2 ] WE'LL HAVE STAFF PRESENTATION ON B FIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND ACTUALLY THAT SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO ME. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. STAFF LOOKS LIKE IT IS RANDELL RUDA. WAS THE STAFF. UH, YES. SO I'M ON THE PHONE. I'LL BE WITH YOU IN JUST A MOMENT. I WAS, YOU HELPED ME BY SURPRISE. I'M GETTING THE AGENDA UP THERE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT PROPOSAL IS FP 20 1505 ZERO 70, UM, T2 EXTENSION, ESPECIALLY TO, FOR TRAVAASA IMPROVEMENTS TO, UM, WHO THE AGENT IS. RICHARD GQ. HE GRABBED ME. APPLICANT OWNERS ARE STILL, OR SOLIDAGO ELLA LLC. ADDRESS OF THE SITE IS ONE THREE FIVE ZERO FM TWO SEVEN SIX NINE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A THREE-YEAR EXTENSION TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN. THE APPROVED SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF SIX NEW HOTEL MOTEL UNITS, AND SIX BUILDINGS, ACCESSORY TO PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT SERVICES. ALL OF THE OCCUPIABLE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ALONG WITH THE WATER QUALITY AND DRAFTERS IN DETENTION FACILITIES. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT PRESERVE OPTIONS FOR CORRECTIONS HAD A REVISION TO THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE POTENTIAL INCREASES IN THE CAPACITY OF THE FACILITY BY THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY SET TO EXPIRE ON DECEMBER 19TH, 2019, STAFF APPROVED A ONE YEAR EXTENSION TO 22, DECEMBER 19TH, 2020, AND THEN THE LATEST MAYOR'S ORDERS WITH REGARD TO THE PANDEMIC RESPONSE EXTENDED THE APPROVAL TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2021 OF THE STAFF. IF ANY OF THAT, THEY'VE MET THE, THE, UM, STANDARD REQUIREMENTS FOR AN EXTENSION PERSON PURSUANT TO CODE, UM, AND ARE REQUESTING AN EXTENSION OF THEM FOR THREE YEARS FROM DECEMBER 31ST, 2021 TO DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, [00:10:02] I WAS AT, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS PER THE AGENDA SAYS DECEMBER, 1920, 23 WILL BE THE END OF THE THREE-YEAR EXTENSION. AND FROM THEIR ORIGINAL EXPIRATION DATE, YOU MENTIONED 20, 24. CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? UM, WE WERE OVERTAKEN BY BY EVENT, THE MAYOR'S ORDER, UM, EXTENDED TO 2021, OR DID DECEMBER 31ST, 2021. UM, WHILE THIS WAS IN PROCESS, I'M AFRAID I MIGHT NOT HAVE UPDATED THAT, THAT NOTE. SO THEY GOT A, ESSENTIALLY A YEAR FROM, FROM THE MAYOR'S PANDEMIC RESPONSE, UM, JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND THEN THE EXTENSION WOULD BE THREE YEARS ON TOP OF THAT. OKAY. SO, UM, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, OR CAN WE HEAR FROM THE SPEAKER MS. PEREZ CHAIR? SO WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. OKAY. IS THE APPLICANT THERE? MY NAME IS RICHARD COUCH. I'M WITH CUNNINGHAM ALLEN AND I'M REPRESENTING THE OWNER. MY NAME IS ROBERT. THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR TRAVAASA. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS WAS MY POINT TO JUMP ON OR NOT. IT IS I'LL LOOK AT THE SPEAKER LIST. I HAVE APPLICANT RON ALBANY'S FIRST AND THEN MR. COUCH. YES. HELLO. MY NAME IS ROBERT ALBANY'S. UM, THE, UH, APPLICANT AND THE OWNERS REPRESENTATIVE FOR TRAVAASA, UH, ALONG WITH OUR CIVIL ENGINEERING FROM CUNNINGHAM ALLEN, WHO RICH COUCH IS PRESENT ON THE CALL AS WELL. AND, UH, AS WAS SUMMED UP EARLIER, WE'RE SIMPLY LOOKING FOR A THREE-YEAR EXTENSION TO THE EXISTING SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT TO, UH, INSTEAD OF SOME OPTIONS DOWN THE ROAD. SO THAT PRETTY MUCH IS THE SUMMARY OF, OF, UH, WHAT OUR INTENT IS. AND MR. COUCH, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? UM, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY. I MEAN, AS, AS RANDALL SAID, ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMPLETED PER THE APPROVED DRAWINGS, UM, WATER, QUALITY, DETENTION, EVERYTHING IS BUILT. AND, UM, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THIS EXTENSION TO ALLOW US TO, TO ALLOW THE OWNER TO CONSIDER SOME OPTIONS IN THE FUTURE, UH, TO EITHER DO A REVISION OR SOME KIND OF A CORRECTION TO THIS EXISTING SITE PLAN WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO GO BACK AND DO A NEW SITE PLAN APPLICATION. SO THAT'S ALL I WOULD ADD. OKAY. SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND HEAR FROM THE SPEAKER THEN IT'S PEREZ. ARE YOU ON THE PHONE? AND IF YOU'RE SPEAKING YOU'RE MUTED, IT'S OUR SIX TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. MS. PETTIS IS YOU'LL SELECT STAR SIX ON YOUR PHONE, THEN PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS. ANDREW, YOU SAID SHE WAS THERE EARLIER. DO YOU THINK SHE MIGHT'VE GOTTEN DROPPED CHAIR? I HAVE HER, UH, SHOWING PRESENT ON THE TELECONFERENCE. UM, MS. WOULD SELECT STAR SIX OR TRY DIALING BACK IN THERE. YOU ARE, UH, MS. PELLISSIPPI WILL PROVIDE YOUR HOPE. YOU SELECTED STAR SIX AGAIN, MS. PETTIS, IF YOU'LL UNMUTE YOURSELF AND THEN PROVIDE YOUR REMARKS. HELLO, MY NAME IS CYNTHIA. I REPRESENT THE NEIGHBORS, UH, DOWN BELOW IT AT, UH, INDIGENOUS WOMEN'S NETWORK PLAN ONE 35, 26, UH, FARM TO MARKET ROAD 27 69. AND SO, UM, [00:15:02] WE WOULD LIKE TO DROP THIS ON THE AGENDA, UH, PRESENT MS. PEREZ. WE CAN HEAR YOU IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE. I JUST HEARD DROP FROM THE AGENDA. ARE YOU STILL THERE? I REMEMBER, BUT SHE MADE IT HERSELF AGAIN. I CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. KEEP GOING. OKAY. WELL, THE STRUCTURES I'VE BEEN READING NOTHING BUT INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE PAST THREE DAYS. UM, WE, UH, WE WENT TO GO INVESTIGATE THE STAR DAMAGE, UH, DURING THE SNOW, AND IT'S WHEN WE FOUND, UH, THE HEARING NOTICE. AND SO I STARTED TO MAKE A FEW CALLS AROUND THOSE OFFICE AND ELSA, AND THEN, UH, PLAINLY ON, UH, THIS LAST, I THINK I RECEIVED THAT ON FEBRUARY THE 18TH. AND I SPOKE WITH LAST FRIDAY WITH CHRISTINE MARTIN AND JOY. AND SO WE WERE TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE IMPACT IS TO OUR WATER. WE HAVE A WELL WATER AS WELL, AND BECAUSE, UH, WE, WE HAVE, UH, OTHER ISSUES AT HAND THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS. THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE, UH, THIS, UH, NO PATIENT IS OLDER CEDAR ROOF THAT WE USE FOR THE ENDANGERED GOLDEN CHEEK LOBSTER. WE ALSO HAVE THE ISSUE OF, UH, THE LOWER WATER TABLE THAT IS GOING BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND, UH, WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE COULD. SO WE WOULD HAVE GONE ABOUT WITH THE HELP OF, UH, SOME SUGGESTIONS FROM SOME OF THE PEOPLE FROM THE TEXAS, UH, NATURAL RESOURCES TO REQUEST RECORDS AND THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY TO ASK ALSO FOR RECORDS. SO WE COULD GAUGE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE TAKING IN THE FUTURE. AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR, WE CAN'T ADDRESS ALL OF THESE ISSUES OF OURSELVES, SO WE CAN BE BETTER INFORMED BEFORE YOU WOULD TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CONTENDERS, BUT ALSO ON THE NOTES AND READINGS THAT I DID, IT WENT 20, 23, NOT 2024 CONSIDERATIONS. I DID MAKE THE CALL RAMP THE MESSAGES CAUSE THE ONE THAT I FINALLY GOT THE MEETING WITH CHRISTINE HOLMES, BARTON, AND THEN I WENT ABOUT, OKAY, MS. PEREZ, I THINK THAT IS YOUR TIME. UM, AND I, UH, NEXT I HAVE TO GIVE THE APPLICANT A CHANCE TO REBUT THOSE STATEMENTS. SO, UM, MR. UM, COUCH OR MR. ALBANY'S IF YOU WANT TO RESPOND. YEAH. THIS IS ONE OF THEM. YEAH, YEAH. UM, I'M ON HERE. UM, WELL ALL OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER FACILITIES, WELL, AGAIN, EVERYTHING FOR THE APPROVED SITE PLAN HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED. ALL OF THE WATER WELLS AND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY HAS BEEN PERMITTED BY TCEQ AND HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER FEW ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT THE OWNER IS CONSIDERING TO ADD. SO, UM, AND AS FAR AS THE GOLDEN CHEEK WARBLER ISSUE, THERE IS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT THAT COMPLETELY SURROUNDS THIS PROPERTY. WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. AND, UM, SO THAT WOULD BE MY RESPONSE TO, TO THOSE ISSUES. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO DO I SEE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND START DISCUSSION? OR WHAT'S YOUR DINKLER? OH, YOU'RE ON MUTE. [00:20:05] OKAY. OH, HEY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. I WAS GOING TO SECOND. OKAY. UM, SO THE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC, HEARING THOSE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT LOOKS LIKE UNANIMOUS. AND SO LET'S GO TO QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER DINKLER I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF, UM, WHAT CONSTITUTES OR REVISION OF A PLAN ON WHAT CONSTITUTES, UM, A NEED FOR AN ENTIRE NEW SITE PLAN? I UNDERSTAND THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ISSUE, BUT I REALLY HAVE NO SENSE OF HOW MUCH MORE THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO ADD. SO WHEN IS IT A REVISION? WHEN IS IT A, A REQUIREMENT FOR NEW SITE PLAN? GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS CHRISTINE BARTON HOMES. UM, THIS SIDE IS OUT IN THE ETJ, WHICH MAKES THE ELEMENT OR THE, UH, THE ISSUE OF A REVISION A LITTLE BIT OF A YEAR. UH, TYPICALLY WE SAY THAT A REVISION CONSTITUTES ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON ADJOINING PROPERTIES AND NEIGHBORS AND IN THE CITY. UM, TYPICALLY IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS, BUT IN THE ETJ BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANY ZONING AND WE DON'T REGULATE BUILDINGS. UM, THE IDEA OF NOT SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTING ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND NEIGHBORS, IT'S STILL THERE, BUT BUILDINGS CAN BE ADDED VIA A REVISION. UM, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN EXTENSIVE REWORKING OF THE SITE, LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF ENGINEERING INVOLVED. THEN AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD WANT TO SEE A FULL SITE PLAN JUST TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS FULLY REVIEWED. BUT IN THIS CASE, UM, THIS PROJECT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE WORKS SINCE 2016. UM, I WAS THE ORIGINAL CASE MANAGER ON THE SITE PLAN AND THE PREVIOUS REVISIONS AND EXTENSIONS. AND THERE'S BEEN SOME MOVING AROUND OF, UM, BUILDINGS ON THE SITE. IT'S A RECONFIGURATION, BUT NOT, UH, ANYTHING THAT IS A HUGE CHANGE THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED A MASSIVE CHANGE TO THE SITE. IT'S MORE JUST CHANGING THE SIZES OF EXISTING APPROVED BUILDING AND CHANGING THE LAYOUT A LITTLE BIT. AND IF I COULD ASK ONE MORE QUESTION, UM, UH, IS THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT REQUIRED BY FISH OR ARE WE REQUIRING IT? UM, THE CITY COUNTY, UH, FOR THAT QUESTION I WOULD DEFER TO THE, UM, APPLICANTS. I, I KNOW THE SITE HAS A LOT OF TOPOGRAPHY AND IT HAS A LOT OF CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES. SO THERE, THE MAJORITY OF THE SITE IS SET ASIDE AS A CONSERVATION AREA, BUT AS WHAT THE, WHAT INSTIGATED THAT, UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW. THIS IS RICHARD COUCH AGAIN. UH, THE EASEMENT IS WITH, UH, THE TRAVIS COUNTY. IT'S A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. AND, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS LIKE UP ON THE TOP OF THE HILL AND THAT CONSERVATION EASEMENT SURROUNDS, YOU KNOW, THE TOP OF THE HILL. SO CLEARLY ANY OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WOULD BE PROPOSING WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THAT EASEMENT UP ON THE TOP OF THE HILL. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM LEFT THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN UTILIZE UP THERE. UM, BASED ON THE, SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS ON CONSTRUCTION ON SLOPES AND WHATNOT. SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE DEAL ON THE CONSERVATION? ISN'T IT IS WITH TRAVIS COUNTY. UH, YEAH. HAVE YOU GONE TO FOOD OR NOT? YES, SIR. THERE WAS A EFFICIENT FISH AND WILDLIFE WAS DEFINITELY INVOLVED IN THAT WHOLE PROCESS. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT LOOKS LIKE COMMISSIONER KING HAS HIS HAND UP. OKAY. THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND, UH, TH THIS QUESTION IS FOR STAFF, YOU KNOW, I, I DO APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERN ABOUT, UH, THE UNCERTAINTY OF THIS PROJECTS AND POTENTIAL CHANGES TO WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO. AND SO MY QUESTION TO STEP IS, UH, I GUESS I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, SO, UH, WHY THREE YEARS, COULDN'T IT BE A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION AND COME BACK AND THEN WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR THE COMMISSION TO GO AHEAD AND EXTEND IT TWO MORE YEARS. UH, AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS WHEN THERE ARE CHANGES TO THESE, UH, THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS, UH, THAT ARE REQUESTING EXTENSIONS, AND THEY ALSO INCLUDE POTENTIAL CHANGES AS BEEN REFERENCED HERE, IT DOESN'T EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE CHANGES MIGHT BE, BUT IT SAYS [00:25:01] THEY'RE CONTEMPLATING SOME CHANGES IN WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO THERE. AND I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE NEIGHBORS MIGHT FEEL UNSETTLED ABOUT THAT. WHAT, SO WILL THE NEIGHBORS BE NOTIFIED ABOUT THOSE POTENTIAL CHANGES BEFORE THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED BY STAFF BEFORE THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN AMENDED OR CHANGED OR WHATEVER APPROVED BY STAFF? HOW WILL THE NEIGHBORS, WHAT IS THAT PROCESS TO NOTIFY THE NEIGHBORS AND KEEP THEM UP TO DATE ABOUT THE CHANGING NATURE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT FOR THE, FOR THE FIRST QUESTION, UM, THREE-YEAR EXTENSIONS ARE TYPICAL, UH, OCCASIONALLY FIVE YEARS OCCASIONALLY LONGER FOR, UM, NOT-FOR-PROFITS CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS, BUT THREE YEARS IS CRITICAL THREE YEARS WITH THE LIFE OF THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN FROM THE DATE THAT THE PERMIT IS ISSUED UNTIL EXPIRATION. AND SO THIS IS ESSENTIALLY GRANTING IT THAT SAME AMOUNT OF TIME ALL OVER AGAIN. UM, FOR THE SECOND QUESTION, UH, REVISIONS ARE NOT NOTIFIED, UM, BUT THERE'S A SECTION IN, UH, RANDY'S REPORT THAT MENTIONED CORRECTIONS. UH, WE HAVE CHANGED OUR CORRECTION PROCESS THAT USED TO BE HANDLED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE CENTER. AND, UM, DURING THE PANDEMIC, THE DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE CENTER HAS BEEN SORT OF WRAPPED INTO LAND USE REVIEW. AND SO CORRECTIONS ARE NOT BEING DONE ANYMORE. THEY ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE PROCESSED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN ANYMORE, UNLESS A SITE PLAN IS ACTIVE. SO THAT USED TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD HAVE DONE ON SITE PLANS, UH, YOU KNOW, CRIED 10 YEARS OLD OR SO, AS LONG AS THEY HAD BEEN COMPLETED. SO A CORRECTION IS A MUCH SMALLER SCALE THAN A REVISION. A CORRECTION MIGHT BE SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, ADDING AN ENTRYWAY TO A BUILDING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE'S A LIMIT ON SQUARE FOOTAGE. UM, NEITHER ONE OF THOSE ARE NOTICED, BUT THEY ARE UPDATED IN THE ABC PORTAL. AND, UM, THIS IS PEREZ OR ANY OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS PROJECT. UH, THEY CAN ALWAYS GET AHOLD OF US THROUGH EMAIL OR PHONE, AND WE CAN CHECK THE ABC PORTAL WITH THEM AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING PLANNED GOING ON THERE. UH, TYPICALLY REVISIONS AND CORRECTIONS ARE DONE IN RESPONSE TO SITE CONDITIONS THAT EITHER WERE MAYBE NOT FULLY UNCOVERED DURING ENGINEERING OR THAT, UM, WERE THAT CHANGED DURING ENGINEERING. SO SAY YOU HAVE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT HERE, YOU GET OUT TO THE SITE, YOU FIND THAT MAYBE THE FOIL WON'T QUITE SUPPORT IT IN THAT EXACT LOCATION. YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT THREE FEET TO THE EAST. THAT'S, THAT'S THE SORT OF THING THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE AS A REVISION IT'S, IT'S SORT OF A REFINEMENT AND AN EVOLUTION OF WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. I JUST, AS A LITTLE FOLLOW ON AS IT, IS IT CORRECT THAT THE NEIGHBORS AND ANYONE REALLY CAN SIGN ON AS AN INTERESTED PARTY IN THAT, IN THAT CASE, THAT PARTICULAR CASE, AND THEN BE NOTIFIED WHEN THERE ARE CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN. IS THAT A WAY THAT THEY COULD THEN BE NOTIFIED BECAUSE YOU CAN IMAGINE PEOPLE ARE BUSY WITH THEIR LIVES AND THEY DON'T, THEY CAN'T SIT AROUND AND SAY, WAS THERE A CHANGE TO THE PLAN? LET ME CALL, LET ME CALL TODAY. LET ME CALL TOMORROW, LET ME CALL NEXT WEEK. SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY TO PUSH OUT THAT INFORMATION TO PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN MAYBE REGISTER EASILY AND SAY, HEY, JUST KEEP ME IN INFORMED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON ON THIS PROJECT. CAN THEY DO THAT AS AN INTERESTED PARTY IN THIS CASE FOR REVISIONS AND CORRECTIONS, NOT AT THIS TIME, UH, THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE A CHANGE IN THE, IN THE CODE AND THE PROCESS FOR EXTENSIONS. YES, BECAUSE FOR THIS SITE PLAN, FROM HERE ON OUT, ANY EXTENSIONS, THEY REQUESTS ARE GOING TO REQUIRE, UH, A HEARING BEFORE YOU ALL AND YOUR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. SO THEY WOULD GET NOTIFIED OF THAT. THANK YOU. AND MY LAST, MY LAST, I GUESS QUESTION OR POINT HERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST GET A LITTLE BIT WORRIED ABOUT THESE PROJECTS THAT GO ON. THIS ONE IS NOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S IN ITS FIFTH YEAR. AND I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS THE PANDEMIC THAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH THAT STEEL, UH, BUT, UH, THEY DID GET A ONE YEAR EXTENSION AUTOMATICALLY. UM, AND, AND SO THAT HELPED TO MITIGATE THAT TO SOME EXTENT, BUT I JUST WORRY ABOUT PROJECTS THAT THREE MORE YEARS ON THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOTAL OF, UH, EIGHT YEARS NOW. UH, AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LONG TIME. AND SO WHAT I WORRY ABOUT IS THAT FUNDAMENTALS CHANGE SO MUCH THAT THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT ITSELF HAS CHANGED. AND, AND I, AND, AND IT DIDN'T BENEFIT FROM AN INITIAL INITIAL SITE PLANNING PROCESS WHERE THERE IS MORE DISCUSSION AND MORE INVOLVEMENT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS. IT JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON, AND THEN CHANGE AND MAJOR CHANGES CAN HAPPEN WITH, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING A NEW SITE PLAN. AND I JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT THAT I WORRY THAT, UH, GETTING THESE LONG EXTENSIONS, I THINK CREATES SOME [00:30:01] RISKS, UH, AND SOME UNCERTAINTY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU. I, I, I DO THINK THAT THE POINT OF THE EXTENSION IS NOT NECESSARILY THAT THE IDEALLY THE SITE PLAN HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND ONLY THE REVISIONS OR CORRECTIONS WOULDN'T, UM, HAVE A, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO SEEK THEIR APPROVAL OR TO SEEK TO COME BEFORE US. SO THERE ARE, AS I THINK, UM, SHE JUST, THE STAFF JUST EXPLAINED THAT IT WAS THAT IT'S USUALLY A SMALLER CHANGE, LIKE MOVING THE FRONT DOOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND CHAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. WHAT I WAS REALLY TRYING TO POINT OUT IS THE UNCERTAINTY OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN REFERENCED IN THIS PARTICULAR EXTENSION THAT, THAT THE DEVELOPER, THE APPLICANT HAS SAID, THEY EXPECT TO HAVE SOME, SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THERE. AND I THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M REFERRING TO. THANK YOU CHAIR. AND THANK YOU, STEPH. OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ONE QUICK QUESTION. ARE THE, OH, I'M SORRY, MR. UH, COMMISSIONER KOSTA, PLEASE. UH, NO NEED. OKAY. I'VE ALREADY TAKEN TWO QUESTIONS. UH, IT'S A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. HAVE YOU MET WITH THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD PARTICULARLY ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACT ON, WELL, UH, THIS IS, UH, ROBERT ALBANY'S AGAIN. UM, WELL, WE'RE, WE, UM, HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS FOR MANY YEARS AND HAVE FOLLOWED EVERY, UM, REQUIREMENT, EVERY CODE. UM, AND AS WE STARTED OUR CONVERSATION THAT ALL OF THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION RELATED TO WELLS AND, AND RECENT ADDITIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND IS, HAS BEEN LONG FINISHED. SO WE, WE WERE NOT AWARE OF ANY ISSUES. UH, WE, WE AGAIN HAD EVERYTHING INSPECTED AND, AND FOLLOWED EVERY GUIDELINE AND REQUIREMENT. UM, DURING THAT PROCESS, WHICH ENDED, I, I GUESS, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THIS, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, REQUEST IS ACTUALLY JUST TO GIVE US THE OPTION TO DO SOME, UM, I ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THAT JUST, YEAH. AND LAST QUESTION, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO JUST GO FOR A TWO YEAR EXTENSION? WERE YOU ALL ABLE TO WORK ON ANY ENGINEERING DURING THIS YEAR? I I'VE BEEN TELEWORKING, SO, UM, I THINK SOME OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH MARKET. UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOTELS ARE A LITTLE DICEY RIGHT NOW. UM, SO IS IT POSSIBLE JUST TO EXTEND THIS FOR TWO YEARS, IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TWEAKING IT OR ARE YOU REALLY LOOKING FOR THREE? YES. MA'AM WE ACTUALLY REALLY NEED THREE. AND AGAIN, TRYING TO FOLLOW WHAT IS, UM, TYPICAL AND I WILL, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE NOT, UH, GONE INTO THE ENGINEERING. UM, AND, AND FRANKLY, WE HAVEN'T DECIDED IF WE'RE EVEN GOING TO DO THIS PROJECT, AS YOU STATED, THE HOTEL AND WELLNESS BUSINESS HAS TAKEN A HUGE HIT IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS. AND, UM, SO WE DID NOT START CIVIL ENGINEERING. WE, WE, WE HAVE NOT STARTED THE PROCESS AND AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THAT ENGINEERING AND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DRAWING PROCESS ALONE CAN TAKE, UH, 12 TO 14 MONTHS. SO THAT, THAT BITES INTO THAT THREE YEARS PRETTY QUICKLY. SO, UH, WITHOUT CARRYING ON HERE, WE, WE FELT THAT THREE YEARS WAS, WAS THE RIGHT AND REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER KOSTA. THANK YOU, CHAIR. ACTUALLY, I THINK THE APPLICANT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION THAT MOST OR THE MAJORITY OR ALL OF THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION HAD BEEN COMPLETED ON THE SITE AND THAT THE CONSEQUENCE OF US APPROVING AN EXTRA THREE YEARS WOULD BE THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL ADDITION OF A FEW UNITS ONSITE. NON-EXPANSION NOT AN INCREASE OR ANYTHING OF THAT. I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT WAS WHAT WAS GOING ON. YES, SIR. THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? DO I SEE A MOTION TABLE? WHERE'S YOUR KING. [00:35:01] I MOVED TO FOR A TWO YEAR EXTENSION TO THE SIDE PLAN, STARTING OUT A WHAT DATE? UH, THE, I GUESS, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE DATE? UH, I GUESS WHEN, I GUESS IT WOULD BE DECEMBER 31ST, 2021. PART OF WHAT I'M CONFUSED BY IS THIS POSTED AS BEING DECEMBER, 1920 23, BUT THE PRESENTATION HAD DECEMBER 19, 20, 24. UM, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST WAS WHY DON'T WE HAVE A EXTENSION FOR, TILL THE NEXT MEETING AND BRING IT BACK WITH THE CORRECT DATE AND GIVE THE APPLICANT, GIVE THE SPEAKER A TIME TO TALK TO STAFF AND TALK TO THE APPLICANT AND GET THINGS STRAIGHTENED OUT. AND HOPEFULLY THIS CAN GO ON A CONSENT AGENDA NEXT TIME. UH, BUT THERE'S KIND OF A POSTING AIR ALMOST ON THIS, CAUSE IT SAYS DECEMBER, 1920, 23, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 2024. UM, SO IF YOU DON'T GET A SECOND, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO TALK MORE AND GET THE AGENDA CHAIR. I WITHDRAW MY MOTION SO THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH CAN MAKE HIS MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CAN CHANGE THIS MOTION. THEN I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING AND GIVE THE APPLICANT AND THE, UH, COLLAR I, YOU HAVE TO VISIT WITH STAFF AND TALK TO EACH OTHER AND CLARIFY THE ACTUAL EXPIRATION DATE. AND HOPEFULLY IT COMES ON A CONSENT AGENDA AT THAT POINT. YES. THAT YES. YES. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. OKAY. LET'S SEE. NANA MIS ARE WE CAPTURING? IS UH, MR. KING, ARE YOU STILL CAPTURING EVERYTHING THERE? OKAY. SO I WILL MOVE ON [B1. Rezoning: C14-2020-0131 - FPT Apartments; District 5 ] TO ITEM B ONE NOW, AND WE WILL HEAR FROM STAFF. OH, WE HAVE A SET PRESENTATION FIRST. YES. RIGHT WHEN WE'RE COMMISSIONING. SO IT'S DISCUSSION POST-APPOINTMENT. SO YOU'LL FIRST HEAR FOR THE TWO INDIVIDUALS IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT AND THEN THE TWO INDIVIDUALS OPPOSED TO THE POSTPONEMENT. OKAY. SO THE FIRST SPEAKER OR ANY FAVOR OF POSTPONEMENT, SORRY. I'M LOOKING AT THE SPEAKER LIST AND THAT'S DIFFERENT, RIGHT. WE'LL BEGIN WITH MS. ADAMS. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS ADAMS, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? HI, THIS IS MICHELLE ADAMS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION FOR THIS REQUEST. UNFORTUNATELY, THE APPLICANT DID NOT RESPOND TO OUR REQUEST TO MEET AGAIN REGARDING OUR CONCERNS AT A RECENT MEETING WITH THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THE APPLICANT'S ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC STUDY UTILIZING THE MESSENGER'S TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WHICH SHOWS A LOSS OF SERVICE AT SLAUGHTER AND BELLBROOK TO A FAILING F AND DAVID MORE TO AN E DOES NOT ACTUALLY INCLUDE THE UPCOMING APPROVED CHANGES TO THE BILL BROKEN FODDER IN INTERSECTION. THEREFORE THE STUDY DOES NOT ACCURATELY REFLECT THE INTERSECTIONS LOSS OF SERVICE RATING. THEREFORE WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION NECESSARY FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT THIS CASE. YET OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS REQUESTED ATD INCLUDE THE NEW INFORMATION WITHIN THE STUDY. AS THE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS COULD SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE THE LOSS OF SERVICE AND THEREFORE THE OVERALL REQUIREMENTS OF ANY PROPOSED ZONING FOR THE SUBJECT PARCEL. THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WE ARE REQUESTING WOULD NOT REQUIRE A FULL TIA, BUT RATHER AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE EXISTING STUDY, WHICH CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH ATD OR AN OUTSIDE ENGINEER, WHICH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS WILLING TO WORK ON. IT WAS ALSO CONFIRMED AT THIS MEETING THAT THE AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT'S INPUT REGARDING THE FIRE RISK AND EVACUATION ISSUES WERE NOT REVIEWED AS PART OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. OUR MEETING WITH ATD ENDED WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM WENDY THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD REQUEST TO POSTPONE THAT TO THE HEARING SO THAT WE COULD EXPLORE THESE ISSUES FURTHER. IN ADDITION TO THE NEW TRAFFIC INFORMATION, THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES IN ZAP COMMISSIONERS, AS YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE NOT HAD THE ADEQUATE TIME TO SCHEDULE AND TALK TO THE NEW MEMBERS PRIOR TO THIS CASE. BEING HEARD, WE FEEL THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT AS THE BACKGROUND MATERIALS, DON'T DISCUSS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS REGARDING FLOODING AND FIRE, AND THEY DO NOT ACCURATELY ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC SCENARIOS AT BILL AND POTTER. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT CONSIDERATION TOWARDS THIS POSTPONEMENT, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE NECESSARY TIME REQUIRED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE MESSINGER TIA CREATE MODELING FOR THE FUTURE CONDITIONS, HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS AND COME UP WITH A WIN-WIN SOLUTION FOR THE MOST IDEAL ZONING FOR THE DEVELOPER, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CITY. THIS MEETING IS ALSO FALLING [00:40:01] ON SPRING BREAK, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY LIMITS THE AVAILABILITY OF SEVERAL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE BEEN AND WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. THANK YOU, MS. ADAMS AND MS. VENN HOUSE IS NEXT SPIN HOUSE. ARE YOU ON THE LINE, MR. VAN HOUSLEY FEEL SELECT STAR SIX, STAR SIX IS NOT FUNCTIONING. IF HE COULD CALL BACK INTO THE NUMBER. THANK YOU. IS IT OKAY IF WE GO AHEAD AND, OH, HELLO. WE MOVE ON TO THE OTHER SPEAKERS. I'M IN OPPOSITION OF THE POSTPONEMENT. THAT WOULD BE MR. YOUNG, MR. VAN HOUSE NOW. OKAY, GO AHEAD, MS. VAN HOUSE, MY APOLOGIES. HELLO COMMISSIONERS. UM, THANKS FOR CONSIDERING OUR POSTPONEMENT REQUESTS. WE BELIEVE THAT SUGGESTED POSTPONEMENTS TO MAY 4TH WILL ALLOW US TO ENGAGE WITH ENGINEERS AS WELL AS ATD AND OTHER EXPERTS TO FURTHER ASSESS THE IMPACTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT ON OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. AS YOU MAY KNOW, AS SOON AS THE DEVELOPMENT GOES INTO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLANNING PHASE, THE CITY MUST FOLLOW THE EXISTING CODE. THE CITY NOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE RECOMMENDED CHANGES AFTER IT GOES THROUGH ZONING. AS WE RECENTLY LEARNED FROM THE CITY PLANNING OFFICE, THE ZONING IS WHERE OUR VOICE MUST BE HEARD. THE EXISTING CODE, UNFORTUNATELY DOES NOT PROPERLY ADDRESS THE UNIQUE ISSUES RELATED TO WILDFIRE, URBAN INTERFACE, FLOODING AND TRAFFIC REPRESENTED IN THIS SPECIFIC CASE, UNTIL WE HAVE AN UPDATED CODE THAT REFLECT THE CURRENT ZONING ENVIRONMENT OF AUSTIN, WE ASKED FOR A MORE THOROUGH LOOK INTO CASES LIKE THESE AND TO TAKE A MORE CAREFUL LOOK AT THE CONDITIONS THAT IMPACT THE SAFETY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. CURRENT RESIDENTS, WE ASKED FOR POSTPONEMENT AND AN EFFORT TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS AND TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE COMMUNITY, WHICH HELPED MAKE AUSTIN SPECIAL AND A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, MR. YOUNG IN OPPOSITION TO THE POSTPONEMENT, ARE YOU THERE? MY NAME IS DOUG YOUNG. I'M WITH GAVIN BARKLEY AND YOUNG, AND I REPRESENTED THE APPLICANT FPP. OH. UM, I DON'T MEAN TO BE UNCOOPERATIVE, BUT, UM, THE CONCERN IS THAT THIS HEARING WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 5TH. THE APPLICANT ASKED FOR A POSTPONEMENT, UH, FOR TWO WEEKS IN ORDER TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND MEETINGS WERE HELD WITH BOTH. I ADMIT THAT THEY APPEARED TO BE UNPREPARED. AND SO THE APPLICANT AGREED TO ANOTHER ONE MONTH EXTENSION TO GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TIME TO DO SOME INVESTIGATION. I OFFERED TO MEET AGAIN. I HOPE THAT MS. ADAMS, MS. ZEN, THE HOUSE WOULD, UH, WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I DID TRY TO BE HELPFUL. UM, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE WRONG FOR NOT HAVING GOTTEN EVERYTHING DONE THAT THEY WANT TO GET DONE, BUT WE ARE NOW MORE THAN TWO MONTHS OUT FROM THE ORIGINAL HEARING. AND ANOTHER, A COUPLE OF MONTHS, UH, THE RICE PROPOSED THE, UH, THE ADVOCATE IS PAYING, UM, EXTENSION FEES. IT'S A KIND OF A TRADITIONAL ARRANGEMENT WHERE HE HAS AN OPTION ON A PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY AND IS DOING HIS DUE DILIGENCE NOW. AND HE HAS TO PAY WHEN THERE ARE DELAYS AND HE'S WAS ALREADY DONE. SO, UH, BUT HE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES NOW YOU WOULD CONTEND THAT IT'S MAYBE NOT FAIR. UM, AS I UNDERSTAND THE, UH, THE REASON FOR THE DELAY IS TO REVIEW, UH, AN ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENT TO THE INTERSECTION OF BOTH BROOKE AND STARTED LANE, WHICH WILL ONLY PROVE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS. I THINK EVERYONE WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. I DON'T THINK REVEALING THAT IS GOING TO YIELD ANY INFORMATION THAT WOULD CREATE MORE CONCERN. UM, I BROUGHT, I HEARD MS. [00:45:01] ZEN HOUSE SUGGESTED THERE ARE INSUFFICIENT. CAUSE I MEAN, ON MY TIME'S UP, I'M A KEEP GOING. THERE WAS CONCERN. OH, I'M SORRY. I HEARD A SIREN, A CHAIR THAT IS INSUFFICIENT. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS YOUR TIME YOU'RE GOING TO FINISH. OKAY, WELL, UH, THAT THE CODE DIDN'T HAVE, UH, ENOUGH REGULATION IN IT TO ADDRESS WILD LAND FIRE. THE AFRICAN IS OF COURSE COMMITTED TO DOING WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO DO FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT IF THE DELAY IS, IS A REQUEST TO JUST SO THE CODE CAN BE WRITTEN IN THE MEANTIME, THAT'S I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MIGHT NOT BE A PROPER BASIS. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS . ARE YOU ON THE LINE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR SAYING YOUR NAME AND CORRECTLY. UM, I CAN ADD THAT MR. IS THE PRINCIPLE OF EQUITY HOLDINGS. UH, I THINK, UH, OKAY. UH, WE HAVE HE, THE DEVELOPERS ON THIS SITE AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SIDE FOUR OR SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS NOW. AND WE WORK WITH AUSTIN CATHOLIC DEPARTMENT AND HAVE DONE ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE, UH, REQUIRED, UH, AS PER THE REQUIREMENT, PROVIDING THEM WITH, UH, MTA, UH, TRAFFIC ANALYSTS TO DETERMINE IF, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST, UH, ZONING FOR THIS. UH, AND, UH, THEY'VE ALREADY COME UP, COME BACK WITH A READING RECOMMENDATION FOR THE SITE, AND WE HAVE SPENT A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME ON IT. AND WE'VE ALSO SPENT TIME. UH, WE ALSO GIVEN TIME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS SO THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW THAT. AND IT'S COSTING US QUITE A BIT OF MONEY FOR ANY SANCTIONS FROM HERE ARE ALREADY PAID QUITE A BIT OF MONEY FOR THE EXTENSIONS ALREADY. ANY OTHER, ANY FURTHER EXTENSION IS GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE FOR US TO CONTINUE WITH THE PROJECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO NEXT IS THERE, DO I RE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING OR DISCUSSION? YEAH. THEY'RE, THEY'RE DONE THEY'RE SNOW. UH, YEAH. CLOSE APPEARING. YEAH. I SEE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. OH, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. SO, BUT WE DO NEED TO JUST KIND OF DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO CHOOSE TO POSTPONE HER AGAIN. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE, I'M SORRY, THIS IS COMMISSIONER SMITH. THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS FIRST REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION. UM, I DON'T, I THINK THE FIRST REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION CAME FROM THE APPLICANT, NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I BELIEVE THAT CORRECT STAFF. HMM. WHAT I'M SAYING IN THE BACKUP NOTES, THAT WAS JANUARY 5TH WAS A POSTPONEMENT BY THE APPLICANT AND JANUARY 19TH WAS BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN FEBRUARY 16TH WAS BECAUSE OF WEATHER. OKAY. OKAY. SURE. DIDN'T CLEAR. UM, I DO THINK THIS NEEDS TO GET POSTPONED, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WHEN IT HITS DURING SPRING BREAK, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET FOLKS TO COME AND I AM INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE TRAFFIC IMPACTS BECAUSE, UM, I THINK GOING TO AN APP MIGHT CHANGE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS ON, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHAT THEY DO. SO I'M NOT SURE I THINK THEY SHOULD POST MAY, UH, FOURTH, I THINK. UM, AND I THINK TWO WEEKS PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO BE SO, UM, I THINK MAYBE THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL, UM, WHATEVER DATE THAT IS. OKAY. AND, AND, UH, I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION FOR POSTPONE TO OUR SECOND MEETING IN APRIL, WHICH WOULD BE APRIL THE 20TH, 2021. AND I, AND I CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER DANKER'S CONCERNS THERE. I, AND ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF A BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ABOUT [00:50:01] THE LEVEL OF THE INTENSITY OF THE ZONING. YOU KNOW, STILL, THERE'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF UNCERTAINTY IF THE WAY I READ THE BACKUP THERE, THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED OUT. SO GIVING HIM MORE TIME WOULD BE GOOD FOR EVERYBODY. UH, AND YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IS THESE ZONING CASES, ONCE THEY'RE DONE THAT ZONING IS ON THE GROUND AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S HARD TO CHANGE THAT. SO I DO GET, THIS IS THE TIME TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE RIGHT NOW, BEFORE WE ZONING CHANGE ON THIS SIDE. OKAY. UM, MR. SMITH AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER WOODY. YEAH. I WOULD TEND TO AGREE. I WOULD ASK THAT ADT, UH, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT COME WITH THEIR PRESENTATION AT THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT THEY CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES. THAT SEEMS TO BE KIND OF WHERE IT'S BOILING DOWN TO IT, THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES AND THE COMMISSIONER BRAIN. YES. LIKE A MICROSERVICE TRANSPORTATION AS WELL. AND I LIKE, UH, EX UH, OR, UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH, SORRY. I LIKED COMMISSIONER SMITH, UH, SUGGESTION OF, UH, GETTING ADT FOR A PRESENTATION AND THEN COMMISSIONER BRAY. UH, I WOULD ASK LIKE STAFF, DO THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION READY? CAUSE, UM, THIS IS USUALLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHAT WOULD LIKE, DO WE HAVE TO ASK FOR A PRESENTATION AHEAD OF TIME? I THOUGHT THEY USUALLY HAD A STAFF PRESENTATION OR HAVE THOSE RESOURCES AVAILABLE. UM, I DIDN'T KNOW. WE WOULD HAVE TO LIKE ASK FOR THAT AHEAD OF TIME OR REQUEST THAT THIS PHONE WENT TO GET THAT CHAIR COMMISSIONER PLAYS ON ANDROID. WE DO HAVE ATD AVAILABLE AS EVEN AN STAFF HAS A PRESENTATION AS WELL. YEAH. BUT YEAH, WE'RE DISCUSSING THE POSTPONEMENT. RIGHT. SO IN DISCUSSING THE POSTPONEMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE 11 SPEAKERS SIGNED UP. SO FOR ME, THE FACT THAT SPRING BREAK IS A DETERRENT DOES NOT FEEL, I MEAN MAYBE IF IT WEREN'T SPRING BREAK, WE'D HAVE 40 PEOPLE SIGNED UP. I'M NOT SURE, BUT I FEEL LIKE 11 PEOPLE WOULD GET THE POINT ACROSS THAT. THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE INTERSECTION OF, OF SLAUGHTER AND BILL BROOKE. AND IF IT'S RATED AN F THERE'S REALLY NOT MUCH THAT CAN BE DONE TO FIX IT. THEY'RE ALREADY GONE. THE ADJACENT DEVELOPERS ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR A LEFT TURN LANE AND A SIGNAL AND THEY'RE WIDENING IT AND THEY'RE PUTTING TRAILS BEHIND THE, THE CURB. I FEEL LIKE THEIR ATD IS ALREADY TAKEN A GOOD LOOK AND IS PROVIDING THE BEST THEY CAN. BUT RIGHT. SO FOR ME, I, I WOULD NOT BE VOTING FOR A POSTPONEMENT. GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER BRAY. YEAH, I WOULD AGREE. DID YOU SAY BREYER RAY? SORRY. RIGHT. I DIDN'T SEE RAISE HAND. I DON'T KNOW. BUT BRAVE THEN I'D AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT. I DON'T, UH, SEE ANY INFORMATION THAT WOULD CHANGE. UH, I DON'T SEE ANY HOW OR ANYTHING THAT TELLS ME THE STAFF ISN'T READY, THAT THERE WOULD BE MORE READY IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. UM, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE ALREADY HAD MULTIPLE EXTENSIONS ON ALL SIDES. SO I DON'T SEE ANY INFORMATION OR I DON'T SEE ANYTHING OUTSTANDING THAT WOULD, I DON'T SEE ANY CHANGES BEING MADE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. IT WOULD REALLY CHANGE THE DISCUSSION HERE. SO I ALSO SUPPORTING THE POSTMAN. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. AND THEN MR. RAY, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP OR, UM, BASICALLY, UM, UH, FARMING, WHAT, UM, THE TWO COMMISSIONERS WHO PREVIOUSLY SPOKE SAID, UM, I AM CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN GET INFORMATION FROM STAFF TONIGHT AND I THINK WE NEED TO RESPECT, UM, THE TIMELINES OF THE DEVELOPER. AND GO AHEAD AND HEAR THIS ONE. SURE. THOMPSON, I'M SORRY. I MAY NEED A LITTLE GUIDANCE ON PROCESS HERE, BUT, UM, I'M CURIOUS IF I CAN ASK THE APPLICANT ABOUT THE FIRST CONTACT THEY MADE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE TIMING OF THAT. UM, I'M SORRY, DOCTOR, I'M SORRY. MR. MENTIONED THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE SITE FOR SEVEN TO EIGHT MONTHS. I WONDER WHEN THEY FIRST MADE CONTACT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS FOR THE PURPOSES OF UNDERSTANDING, WHY ARE WE NOT TO POSTPONE RIGHT. FOR THE, FOR THE PURPOSES OF UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, WAS, WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD FIRST MADE AWARE OF WHEN IT CAME TO ZONING AND PLANNING OR WERE THEY ENGAGED PRIOR TO THAT JANUARY MEETING? BECAUSE THEY ARE, ARE YOU MR. YOUNG, MR. OR MR. YOUNG, CAN YOU RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION PLEASE? THE FIRST MEETING THAT I'M AWARE OF WAS DURING THE WEEK AFTER THE FIRST POSTPONEMENT ON JANUARY 5TH, UM, IT WAS, UH, A ZOOM MEETING WITH EACH OF THE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS [00:55:02] THAT INDICATED AN INTEREST. UM, AFTER THAT, UM, AGAIN, THERE WAS A ONE MONTH EXTENSION THAT FOLLOWED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WANTED ADDITIONAL TIME. I REACHED OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES TO SEE IF I COULD PROVIDE ANY MORE INFORMATION. I DIDN'T HEAR BACK UNTIL THE DAY BEFORE THE RESCHEDULED MEETING AND FEBRUARY. AND THAT WAS ALSO WHEN THE STORM HAD. AND, UH, UH, SO NO, NO CONTACT WAS MADE AT THAT TIME. SO THEY'VE HAD, THEY'VE HAD LESS THAN TWO MONTHS TO KIND OF LEARN ABOUT THE PROJECT AND, AND, AND GATHER ALL THE INFORMATION IS, UM, WELL, I, I ASSUME THEY GOT NOTICES OF THE CASE IN TERMS OF LEARNING DIRECTLY FROM THE APPLICANT. THE FIRST CONTACT WOULD HAVE BEEN SHORTLY AFTER JANUARY FEST. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. KING, DID YOU READ IT? SORRY ABOUT THAT. UH, YES. UH, SO WE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION YET TO POSTPONE IS WE DID. WE DID. ALL RIGHT. SO WHY I CALL THE QUESTION? OKAY. SO, UM, ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING UNTIL, UM, I BELIEVE YOU SAID APRIL 20TH AND THEN RAISE YOUR HANDS. SO ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, AND THOSE OPPOSED TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. SO YOU POSE, IS IT SO IT'S NOT POSTPONED THEN THAT, OR DO WE NEED TO VOTE TO HEAR THE CASE? CHAIRMAN WILL NOW HEAR FROM STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. CHAIRMAN COMMISSION MEMBERS. MY NAME IS WENDY ROSE, BUT THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THIS, UH, PROPERTY IS 5.2 ACRES. IT IS LOCATED ON GENOA DRIVE. IT'S A FOUR-LANE ROADWAY, UH, WEST OF ITS INTERSECTION WITH PHILBROOK PLACE. AND FOR CONTEXT, BILL BROOKE IS SIGNALIZED AT WEST, BOUGHT HER LANE AND BOUGHT HER LANE ABOVE IS ABOVE GRADE THAT, UH, WHERE IT ABUTS THIS SITE AND IS ALSO A PRIMARY CONDUIT FROM VEHICLE FOR VEHICLE OR TRAFFIC FROM SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS, INCLUDING THE HOLLOW AT SLAUGHTER CREEK, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET TO THE SOUTH, THE TEXAS OAK STYLE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS FURTHER SOUTH, THE MALONE SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND ALSO THE MESSINGER TRACT. THIS PROPERTY IS USED FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES, AND IT DOES HAVE A 100 FOOT WIDE APPROXIMATE, UM, APPROXIMATE, UH, DISTANCE OF A DRAINAGE EASEMENT ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. IT HAS BEEN THEN DR. SINCE ABOUT 1984 AND TO THE EAST AT THE CORNER OF BILL BROOKE AND SLAUGHTER IS AN OIL AND LUBE SHOP SHOP, WHICH HAS COMMERCIAL ZONING AND TO THE SOUTH IS THE HOLLOW AT FLUTTER CREEK SUBDIVISION. AND TO THE WEST IS MANY WAREHOUSES THAT TERMINATES, UM, BELOW THESE WATER CREEK BRIDGE STRUCTURE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING , WHICH IS MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCE HIGH DENSITY. SO THAT, SO THAT THE PROPERTY MAY BE DEVELOPED WITH UP TO 240 UNITS THAT HAS RECENTLY BEEN AMENDED BY THE APPLICANT. AS I INDICATE IN THE ISSUES SECTION, THE STAFF HAS AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF FOR THIS PROPERTY, GIVEN ITS ACCESS TO TWO LEVEL ONE, STREET'S ADJACENCY TO COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES CONSTRAINTS OF, UH, THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND ITS BUFFER AREA, AND ALSO COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH DIRECT ACCESS TO THE SLAUGHTER LANE IS NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE BRIDGE STRUCTURE THAT PASSES OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS. UH, FOR CONTEXT, THE ZONING HAS A 40 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT, WHICH CAN BE ACHIEVED ON THIS PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR MFI WOULD ALLOW FOR 60 FEET THAT COULD BE ACHIEVED APPROXIMATELY 300 FEET FROM THE CLOSEST RESIDENCES AND , UH, AS INFORMATION ALL, BUT ALSO HAS A 60 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT. THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT WAS CONDUCTED WITH THIS, [01:00:01] UH, REZONING CASE. IT DOES INCLUDE A TRANSPORTATION ASSESSMENT. IT RECOMMENDS A FEE IN LIEU PLAINS ON BOTH SIDES OF SLAUGHTER FROM AN SHACK TO TEXAS OAKS, AS WELL AS A FEE IN LIEU PAVEMENT TOWARD RELOCATING BUS STOPS, THAT'S WATER AND BELLBROOK AND A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG THE PROPERTY'S FRONTAGE ON GENOA AND EXTENDING TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE EAST, UH, TO ITS INTERSECTION WITH BELLBROOK, UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, UM, JUST I, A COUPLE ISSUES TO, UM, SUMMARIZE HERE. THE APPLICANT IS NOT AN AGREEMENT WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF MF THREE, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IT. AND, UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THERE HAS, THERE'S A LOT OF CORRESPONDENCE THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE BACK OF THIS PACKET, UH, WHICH REPRESENTS ALL THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT HAS OCCURRED DURING THE ZONING CASE, WHICH WAS FILED IN MID NOVEMBER. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, WENDY. AND NEXT, IS THERE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION? THIS IS DOUG YOUNG AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION, BUT I'M SURE SHOULD I PROCEED? OKAY. UH, UM, AS WENDY SAID, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS TO PROPOSAL EMMA FOR ZONING DISTRICT WHERE THE RESTRICTION TO 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER, WHICH WOULD MATCH WHAT IS ALLOWED IN MS THREE AND TO LIMIT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS TO 240, APPROXIMATELY 280 WOULD OTHERWISE BE ALLOWED UNDER EITHER A FOUR OR FIVE. THE, UH, THE RELEVANT DIFFERENCES ARE, UH, THE HEIGHT ALLOWANCES, AS WENDY MENTIONED, UM, UH, AS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT NOW WITH THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS, UH, HEIGHTS COULD GO UP TO AS HIGH AS 60 FEET, AT LEAST 300 FEET AWAY FROM THE NURSE RESIDENTS. UM, THAT WOULD BE PUSHED BACK TOWARD THE, THE BRIDGE STRUCTURE, THE ELEVATED BRIDGE STRUCTURE AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. THE REASON FOR THE, THE PROPOSED ZONING, IT SAID, THIS IS A BIT OF A UNIQUE PROPERTY. IT'S REMAINED UNDEVELOPED SINCE AT LEAST 1984. AND BECAUSE IT IS SURROUNDED BY THE COMMERCIAL, UH, USES INCLUDING THE MANY, UH, WAREHOUSE, IT REALLY HAS SORT OF AN INDUSTRIAL LOOK TO IT AS WELL AS THE, UM, THERE'S NOT JUST THE A HUNDRED FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT, BUT THERE'S A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY SOUND. IT TAKES UP ABOUT 1.2 ACRES ON THE WESTERN HALF. THAT IS, UM, UH, WELL, IT'S A SOURCE OF A LOT OF LITTER, UM, DISCARDED CLOTHES, THAT SORT OF THING. IT'S, UH, IT'S A DIFFICULT PROPERTY. AND THEN IT'S SURROUNDED BY THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE TO THE SOUTH. UM, I'M GONNA REFER TO A FEW PHOTOS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PROVIDED TO YOU. UM, PAGE 25 AND I'M REFERRING TO PDF PAGE 25 IS A PICTURE OF THE SLAUGHTER LANE BRIDGE THAT ABUTS THE PROPERTY. IT RUNS FROM ABOUT 15 FEET HIGHER THAN THE PROPERTY TO AS MUCH AS 30 TO 35 FEET HIGHER ON THE OTHER END, UM, THAT MAKES THE PROPERTY AMONG, IN ADDITION TO THE SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL USES, IT REALLY ISN'T APPROPRIATE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY USE. UM, AND IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A RETAIL OR OTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HIGH TRAFFIC SERVICE BUSINESS BECAUSE IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM SLAUGHTER LANE AND IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE FROM SLAUGHTER LANE. UM, UM, PDF PAGES, 26 AND 27. THERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT I WANTED YOU TO SEE ONLY BECAUSE I'M AWARE THAT AMONG THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS IS THE, IN THE ABANDONED THINGS THAT APPEAR TO BE COMING FROM NOT ONLY THAT, UH, THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT, BUT ALSO A SIMILAR WOODED AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT IS PROBABLY AN EVEN WORSE CONDITION. UM, [01:05:01] I WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT KIND OF LATER IN DISCARDED GOODS AND PERSONAL ITEMS IS NOT LIKELY TO BE NEARLY AS BAD AS IT CURRENTLY IS. UM, AS, UH, IT SET OUT IN THE COMMUNICATION SUBMITTED TO YOU BY THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS, ESSENTIALLY ARE THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL EXTENDING MORE THAN A MILE TO WHERE THE STREET'S DEAD END INTO SLAUGHTER CREEK. THE PROPOSED USE WOULD, UH, FOR SOME, UH, SOME OPTIONS, SOME DIVERSITY IN HOUSING, UH, OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE IN THE AREA. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THERE IS NO OTHER PRACTICAL USE THAT CAN BE MADE AT THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE SURROUNDING CONDITIONS AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. UH, THE PROPOSED USE IS, UH, BASED ON MOBILITY STRENGTHS IN THE AREA, THE POLICIES THAT SUPPORT MULTIFAMILY WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS CENTERS, IT'S, IT APPEARS TO SUPPORT THE POLICIES OF IMAGINED HONEST AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UH, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IT DOES BY OFFERING, UH, MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DIFFERENT HOUSING OPTIONS. UM, THE, AMONG THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS OR CONDITIONAL INS TO APPROVAL OF A SITE PLAN, UH, TO IMPROVE THE WALKABILITY AND BIKEABILITY, UH, OF THE USE THERE. UM, AND I WON'T REVIEW THEM. I THINK YOU'VE GOT THEM IN FRONT OF YOU THERE ON PDF PAGE 24. AND, UM, MS. RHODES MENTIONED THEM AS WELL. I DID WANT TO, UH, JUST QUICKLY ADDRESS DRAINAGE, WATER QUALITY. AGAIN, THE LITTER IS PROBABLY GOING TO DIMINISH AS A PROBLEM WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY, CONDITIONAL OVERLAY TO LIMIT IMPERVIOUS COVER, UH, WOULD, UH, WOULD MAKE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT NO DIFFERENT THAN THE RECOMMENDED MS. THREE AND THE APPLICANT ISN'T PROPOSING ANY VARIANCES FROM DRAINAGE, WATER, QUALITY REGULATIONS, PARK DEDICATIONS, OR ANY OTHER APPLICABLE REGS, INCLUDING THE COMPATIBILITY REGULATIONS, UH, THAT, UH, RESTRICT HEIGHT AND THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AS WELL AS NOISE AND OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, ARE INCOMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL USES, UM, ON PDF PAGES, 30 TO 32 ARE SOME RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT I HAVE TO, BECAUSE I HEARD THE SIREN AGAIN. YEP. FACETIME IT WORKED. YES. SO IF YOU'RE FINISHED WITH YOUR LAST POINT THERE, UM, YEAH, I'LL, I'LL, UH, COME BACK AND REBUTTAL. THANK YOU SO, WELL NEXT WE'LL HAVE THE OPPOSITION SPEAKERS, AND I'M TOLD THAT CITY HALL IS GOING TO HELP ME, UM, CAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ORDER. THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE LIST I HAVE HERE. SO ANDREW, DO YOU WANT TO CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER? YES. THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A SPEAKER LIST, SO WE'LL JUST TAKE THEM CONTINUOUSLY ALONG WITH THEIR PRESENTATION, BUT, UH, JUST WANTING TO, BEFORE WE PROCEED, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, UH, DID MR. WISH TO SPEAK? UH, YES. MR. YOUNG HAS ALREADY, UH, ADDRESS MOST OF OUR CONCERNS HERE. UH, I'VE BEEN TO PASSENGERS. YES, CHAIR. SO THEN WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE OPPOSITION AND THEN WE HAVE A LIST. THERE'LL BE A CONTINUOUS LIST. UM, I DO HAVE THE SPEAKERS ON THE TELECONFERENCE. SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH MR. MEACHAM AND THEN GO THROUGH THE LIST. THANK YOU. WHICH IS TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT TRACK. I HOPE YOU'RE SEEING THE IMAGE THAT I INTENDED IN THIS SLIDE. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE GEOGRAPHICAL CONTEXT OF THIS REQUEST. THE IMAGE COMES FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT WILDFIRE. THE SUBJECT TRACK IS A SMALL PORTION OF THE SIZABLE POCKETABLE AND OUTLINED IN RED. THAT IS COMPLETELY ENCLOSED, THREE SIDES, THE SUBJECT TRACTOR SHOWING [01:10:01] WHITE AT THE TOP LEFT THERE SEVERAL OTHER TRACKS IN THE PARK. SO I'M IN THE CITY. SO I'M IN THE TJ IS POCKET COMPRISED ABOUT SIX FOOT AND 23 ACRES AND 1,655 HOUSEHOLDS FOUND ON THE WEST BY RAILROAD TRACKS ON THE SOUTH. MY FATHER CREEK ON THE EAST BY MARY MORRISSEY, WHITE PARK, WHERE THIS MIDDLE SCHOOL AND SOME APARTMENTS WITH MY SLAUGHTER LANE. THE ONLY WAY OUT OF THIS WHOLE AREA IS TO THE NORTH, NO WAY OFF THE MAT, JACK ON THE WEST, NO WAY OFF OF 16, 26 IN THE SOUTH, NO WAY OFF THE SOUTH. FIRST ON THE EAST, THE ONLY ACCIDENT POINTS ARE BILL BOOK PLACE AND DAVID MOORE DRIVE TO THE FRONT. AND 90% OF THE TRAFFIC IS ON BILL BROOK. THAT IS EXTREMELY LIMITED ACCESS. THERE'S 623 ACRES. MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS IF THIS SITUATION IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, THE ONLY WAY IN AND OUT, UH, RIGHT NEXT WEEK, FEATHER AT THE NORTH END, IF THERE WERE A FIRE OR A FLOOD, SOME OTHER EMERGENCY THIS BOTTLENECK WITH BLOCK SERVICE VEHICLE COMING IN AND MAKE IT VERY HARD AND SLOW FOR RESIDENTS, WE EVACUATE BIGGEST HAZARD IS FIRE AND THE IMAGE BEFORE YOU, THE DARKER, THE BACKGROUND, THE GREATER THE FIRE HAZARD, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE SURROUNDED BY FRIEND BUBBLE MATERIAL. IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A FIRE WERE TO COME UP FROM THE SOUTH AT THE SAME TIME THAT BIOTRACK'S FROM AMBULANCES ARE TRYING TO GET IN, YOU WOULD HAVE A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GET OUT ALL THROUGH THE SAME. NO BOTTLENECK. THE RISK IS NOT JUST BEING LATE TO WORK IT'S LOSS OF PROPERTY AND EVEN LOSS OF LIFE. PEOPLE COULD BE KILLED. ADDING MORE TRAFFIC HERE IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER. WE UNDERSTAND THE CITY HAS A GOAL TO CREATE MORE HEALTH, I THINK IS MUCH NEEDED, BUT HE ALSO HAS A GOAL WITH TRACK SAFETY, CONSTANT STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, DIRECTS DECISION MAKERS TO PRIORITIZE THE PROTECTION OF HUMAN LIFE OVER ALL ELSE IN THE PLANNING, DESIGN AND OPERATION OF AUSTIN'S TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. IN THIS CASE OF CONFLICTING GOALS, WE ASKED YOU TO PRIORITIZE SAFETY. WE ARE ALREADY IN A PRECARIOUS POSITION. PLEASE MAKE IT WORSE. MY NAME, MY NAME IS AND I LIVE IN TEXAS. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY MORE ABOUT VEHICLE ACCESS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. TWO STREET, DAVID MOORE DRIVE AND CHAPEL LANE HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED AS ADDITIONAL INGRESS EGRESS OPTIONS TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC ON BELLBROOK. THESE SUGGESTIONS HAVE BEEN MADE MANY TIMES AND HAVE NEVER BEEN FRUITFUL. UNFORTUNATELY, NEITHER ONE CAN MITIGATE THE ALREADY DANGEROUS SITUATION. EVEN MORE DRIVE HAS NO WESTBOUND TURN OPTION AND NO LIGHTS THAT OFTEN BLOCKED BY TRAFFIC ON SWATTER STOP THAT TEXAS OAK STRIDE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO DC ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. THIS WAS IN ADDITION, THEY DID MORE AS A FARROW 30 FEET WIDE ROAD THAT ONLY, THAT CAN ONLY BE REACHED THROUGH RESIDENTIAL STREETS THAT HAVE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES. AND WE'RE NOT DESIGNED FOR THROUGH TRAFFIC, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO REQUEST IT THAT THE CITY CONNECT EIGHT MORE DRIVE TO TEXAS BOOKS FROM THE IRON RANCH APARTMENTS WERE BUILT ON SLAUGHTER. AND THAT REQUEST WAS DENIED. THE APPROVED MESSENGER TRACKS WILL GREATLY INFLUENCE TRAFFIC ALONG DAVID MOORE, THE METHODS OR VIA THOSE THAT DAVID MOORE WILL HAVE A LOSS OF SERVICE. THE CAPITOL LANE, AND THE FAR SOUTH OF THE 623 ACRE AREA HAS ALSO BEEN SUGGESTED AS A POSSIBILITY CAPITAL CURRENTLY HAS NO THROUGH ACCESS. THIS DIVIDED INTO TWO SECTIONS THAT DO NOT CONNECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE APPROACHED THE COUNTY MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT ACCESS TO CAPITAL AND HAD BEEN DENIED B TO STUDY ISSUES, THE APARTMENT FOR NEXT AND THE NEED FOR AN UPGRADED CROSSING AT THE RAILROAD ATD HAS CONFIRMED. THEY HAVE NO PLANS TO ADDITIONAL ROAD TO, OR ADDITIONAL ROADS OR CONNECTIONS INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS LEAVES BELLBROOK AS THE ROADWAY, THAT MUCH ACCOMMODATE THE OVERWHELMINGLY MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC AS THE MTA STATES. SO BROOKE IS ALREADY OPERATING AT AN UNDESIRABLE LEVEL AND THE PROPOSED ABOUT NETWORK TAXI ALREADY LIMITED INTERSECTION, THE MESSENGER, RIGHT SHOWS THE INTERSECTION TO HAVE FAILED. THIS IS VERY CONCERNING ATTORNEY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MR. BEN HOUSE. HELLO. I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE TOPIC, UM, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS, UM, [01:15:01] ISSUES WITH FIRE AND FLOODING AS WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT. SO WHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FIRST RECEIVED THE NTA, WE IMMEDIATELY REQUESTED THE BACKGROUND TRAFFIC STUDY INFORMATION THAT INFORMED THAT NTA ATD AND MRS. ROSE UNFORTUNATELY, WAS NOT ABLE TO GIVE US THIS INFORMATION. SO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC INFORMATION PROCESS, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, TAKES ADDITIONAL TIME, WE FINALLY RECEIVED THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT INFORMED THE MTA. AND WE ALSO THROUGH THE PUBLIC INFORMATION PROCESS, WE ALSO RECEIVED THE MESSENGER TIA, WHICH THE MESSENGER PROJECT, IF YOU REMEMBER, IS THE APPROVED SF SIX PROJECT AT THE CORNER OF BELLBROOK AND SLAUGHTER. UM, THIS MESSENGER TIA WAS AGAIN CONDUCTED IN NOVEMBER OF 2020 SHOWS THAT THE BILBREW WATER INTERSECTION WILL HAVE AN LOS OF F. SO, SO IT'S FAILED. THE MESSENGER PROJECT WILL FAIL IT. UM, THERE ARE MITIGATIONS IN THAT, UM, UH, DOCUMENTS AND WITH THE MESSENGER TRACK TO IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION. BUT WHEN WE MET WITH ATD AND THE APPLICANT'S CASE MANAGER, MRS ROAD, WE LEARNED THAT THE IMPROVEMENT THAT BILLBURK AND SQUATTER INTERSECTION THAT ARE A PART OF THE MESSENGER TRACK WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE ABYSS AND THE ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND INFORMATION FOR THE NTA. WHEN WE ASKED ATD WHY THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED, THEY SAID IT WAS TO GIVE A MORE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT IF THAT INTERSECTION HAD BEEN MODELED WITH THE IMPROVEMENT THAT WE KNOW ARE COMING, THAT THE LOSS OF SERVICE COULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER THAN AN F MAYBE IT'S AN E. AND THAT THAT COULD HAVE THEREFORE CHANGED THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE APPLICANT AND ALSO THE DENSITY ZONING AND POSSIBLY THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BECAUSE WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT NOBODY WANTS A FAILED INTERSECTION, BUT ONCE WE GET TO A FILLED INTERSECTION, WE'RE KIND OF STUCK. UM, WE ALSO LEARNED THAT THROUGH OUR MEETING WITH ATD, YOU KNOW, WELL, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM DELAY? IF, IF THIS PROJECT FAILS IT AND WE GET TO AN LOS OF F WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM DELAY, BECAUSE DELAYS RIGHT NOW, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AROUND 330 TO 329. AND UNFORTUNATELY ATD SAID, THERE IS NO MAXIMUM DELAY. IT WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE. AND SO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SO WE JUST DEAL WITH THAT, THAT THERE BEING NO LIMIT IN THAT, KNOWING THAT THE INTERSECTION IS GOING TO BE AT AN F PUTTING MORE DENSITY, A VERY DENSE DEVELOPMENT UPFRONT SEEMS VERY IRRESPONSIBLE AND DANGEROUS. SO I NEIGHBORHOOD FEELS THAT WOULD BE THE MOST THAT WE COULD STRETCH. THIS IS A COMPROMISE THAT WOULD ADDRESS ME, THE BOSTON FOR HOUSING AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERN. I NEVER HAD UNDERSTANDS AND APPRECIATES IT OFTEN HAVE A TRAFFIC AND HOUSING ISSUES. WE'RE NOT SAYING NO TO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. AND WE'RE NOT ASKING THAT WE BE EXCLUDED FROM THESE ISSUES. WE KNOW WE LIVE HERE OR AUSTINITES OFF WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT JUST, WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFELY. THANK YOU, MR. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS . I LIVE IN TEXAS OF SOUTH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME HERE. IN THIS CASE, I'M OPPOSED TO THE ZONING REQUEST DUE TO MANY FACTORS, MOTIVE BY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT WHAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS FAILING BRIDGE THAT WAS BASED IN PARCEL 18 AUSTIN PUBLIC WORK, THE 434 BRIDGES AND OF OFF, OUT OF THE, THEY IDENTIFIED WITH FEDERAL AND OVERPASS, WHICH IS THE BRAIN BRIDGE NEXT TO THE PROPOSED ZONING SITE, AS ONE OF FIVE BRIDGES THAT OFFER MEDIATE REHABILITATION OR ITS PLACEMENT ETHICALLY STABILIZED EARTH WALL. BOTH YOU CAN WITH AND WILL BE OVERPASS, HAVE EXPERIENCED MOVEMENTS AND FAILURES, WHICH HAVE CAUSED NOTICEABLE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND STREET FIGURED MAJOR CRACKING IN THE CRACKS. THAT SHOULD BE VISIBLE SCREEN. NOW THE PRESENTATION YOU SUBMITTED ARE LARGE ENOUGH PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE TIRES, AND WE PROJECT PEOPLE INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE HAVE BEEN EFFORTS TO FILL THE CRACKS, CONTINUE TO SERVE THE MTA BEST IS THE TRAFFIC CONCERN THROUGH AN EFFORT TOWARD MULTIMODAL TRAFFIC RECOMMEND OVER THIS, BUT WE FEEL THIS IS IRRESPONSIBLE GIVEN THE STATE OF THE BRIDGE PARKING AWESOME PUBLIC WORKS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO FUNDING ADDITIONAL STUDY AND ID OR REPAIR, HOWEVER, AND KNOCK YOUR FEET. OFTEN PUBLIC WORKS. YOU'VE BEEN SEEKING FUNDING FROM THE STATE AND OTHER RESOURCES FOR THIS PROJECT IS 20 1906. WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE YET FOR FUNDING, REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT. THIS COULD HAVE MAJOR IMPLICATIONS FOR SAFETY [01:20:01] OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD METERS INDUSTRY. AND FOR BICYCLISTS USING THIS, I ACTUALLY ASKED THE COMMISSION A BIG PICTURE OF THIS LEARNING REQUEST THAT AT ITS CURRENT RATE, THE THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, MS. MICHAEL. IT HAS NOT BEEN A VIABLE LOT BECAUSE IT'S FULL OF WATER. EVEN THE SMALL WATER EVENT, THERE ARE ONLY A FEW WAYS THAT WATER CAN GET THROUGH THE RAILROAD TRACK. AND YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE, THE SIZE OF OUR WATERSHED. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SQUARE MILES OF LAND THIS IS, BUT ALL OF THAT WATER GOES THROUGH THE BOTTOM OF OUR SUBDIVISION OR THE TOP WHERE THIS LOT IS LOCATED. THAT'S WHY THERE'S A A HUNDRED FOOT WATER A WAY ON THE SIDE OF THE LOT. AND THAT SIDE OF OVERFLOWS ON, ON, ON ALMOST ALL HEAVY WATER EVENT, THERE IS A WAY FOR WATER TO COME IN THROUGH THE RAILROAD TRACK. AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THAT STRAIGHT LINE DOWN THE SIDE OF OUR POCKET. AND WE CALL IT A POCKET BECAUSE IT IS, WE HAVE NO OTHER WAY OUT EXCEPT ONE I'M JUST SLAUGHTERED LANE. THAT'S REALLY VIABLE. AND THEY AT THE SAGE MEADOWS ACROSS THE STREET, UH, ACROSS, UH, SLAUGHTER LANE FROM THIS APPLICANT'S PROPERTY HAS A WATER QUALITY POND AND RIGHT THERE WHERE THAT WATER QUALITY POND IS, IS ALSO ONE WAY FOR ALL THE WATER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACK TO GET THROUGH AND COMES DOWN. THIS DITCH. ALSO ALL THE WATER THAT COMES ALONGSIDE THE RAILROAD TRACK ON BOTH SIDES COMES THROUGH THAT OPENING UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACK AT THAT POINT. AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S SO MUCH HEAVY FLOODING AT THIS LOT. YOU SEE WHERE I HAVE THE RED POCKET. THERE'S A LITTLE TINY GREEN LINE INSIDE THE RED POCKET. THAT'S THE APPLICANTS LOT. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SURFACE WATER HERE. THAT'S HUGE HOW THIS HASN'T HAPPENED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. IT ONLY HAPPENS DURING OUR RAINY YEARS, BUT WHEN IT HAPPENS, IT'S HUGE. AND ALL OF THE WATER THAT GOES DOWN THIS DITCH RUNS THROUGH ONE OF THE TWO AT ONCE THROUGH THE ONLY ACCESS WAY TO SLAUGHTER CREEK FROM THE NORTH PART OF OUR POCKET. AND THAT GOES UNDER OUR ONLY BRIDGE ON BILL BROOKE. SO WATER ON THE BRIDGE ON BILL BROOKE HAS ALREADY REACHED THE OF THE BRIDGE AND HIGH WATER EVENTS AND HAS ALREADY GONE AROUND BOTH ENDS OF THE BRIDGE ACROSS BILL BROOK. SO WE THINK THAT OUR ONLY BRIDGE IS ALSO IN DANGER AND DOING A 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THIS LOT, WHICH HAS BEEN AN INFILTRATION PLACE FOR EVERY WATER EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOW GOING TO ADD JUST THAT MUCH MORE WATER ACROSS THAT BRIDGE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WATER HARVESTING, YOU SEE THAT ONE SQUARE FOOT OF ROOFTOP AND A ONE INCH RAIN WILL PRODUCE A GALLON OF WATER. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SQUARE MILES OF RUNOFF COMES THROUGH UNDER THAT BRIDGE, BUT IT IS A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH IT'S FLOODED OVER SLAUGHTER CREEK LANE ON BOTH SIDES. THE AREA WHERE THE STORAGE UNITS ARE WAS RAISED, UH, AND WAS FILLED. AND THERE WAS MS. HELLO. MY NAME IS ASHLEY COUNTY AND I LIVE IN THE HOLLOW AT BUTTER CREEK AND A SIX YEAR RESIDENT. AND I SERVE ON THE HOA BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THE ZONING SITE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR SUBDIVISION. SO WE ARE DEEPLY INVESTED IN THE OUTCOME OF THIS HEARING AND DECISIONS ABOUT THE PROPERTY. BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO DIRECT YOU TO TWO LETTER INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET THAT WERE SIGNED BY RESIDENTS, WHICH ECHO THE CONCERNS YOU WERE HEARING THIS EVENING. THE MAIN ISSUE I WANT TO RATE IS [01:25:01] THE POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING TO OUR SUBDIVISION. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PHOTOS IN YOUR PACKET, A LARGE DRAINAGE AREA RUNS ALONG THE WESTERN BORDER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. A SIDEWALK RUNS ALONGSIDE IT AND DOZENS OF HOMES BACK UP TO IT, RUN OFF FROM THE SITE AND THE SLAUGHTER LANE BRIDGE TRAVELED SOUTH THROUGH THE AREA INTO A DETENTION POND AT THE BACK OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONTINUES TO SLAUGHTER CREEK. IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE INSTANCES OF THIS DRAINAGE AREA REACHING FULL CAPACITY DURING HEAVY RAIN EVENTS. IN ADDITION, TRASH AND LARGE DEBRIS HAVE BEGUN BLOCKING THE DRAIN OUTLET. NOT ONLY IS THE DEGREE PROBLEMATIC FROM A POTENTIAL FLOODING STANDPOINT, BUT OUR HOA IS BURDENED BY THE ADDITIONAL COSTS OF CLEANUP AND MAINTENANCE. WE'RE WORRIED THAT A HEIGHTENED CITY DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO WORSE THAN THESE EXISTING CHALLENGES. WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING ON THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY THAT LIMP UNDER THIS WATERLINE BRIDGE. A FEW OTHER POINTS. MY NEIGHBORHOOD DEPENDS EXCLUSIVELY ON GENOA. EXIT GENOA IS A RESIDENTIAL LOCAL STREET, AND THERE IS NO LIGHT AT BELLBROOK IN GENOA MAKING SAFE LEFT TURNS WITH CURRENT TRAFFIC COUNT CAN BE DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY DURING PEAK TRAVEL TIMES. EVERY MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY IN OUR AREA HAS THEIR OWN TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT ALLOWS FOR SAFE, DIRECT ACCESS ONTO FOREIGNER LANE. THIS SITE HAS NO EXIT TO FLUTTER AND WOULD ALSO DEPEND ENTIRELY ON GENOA. THERE IS NO THREE OR NEARBY ADDING EITHER WOULD BE COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND LASTLY, MULTI-MODAL TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS. AREN'T ALWAYS PRACTICAL. FOR INSTANCE, IT WOULD TAKE ME AN HOUR AND A HALF, ONE WAY BY BUS TO REACH MY WORKPLACE. FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN FAR SOUTH AUSTIN, WE DEPEND ON OUR VEHICLES TO GET AROUND. AND THAT'S WHERE IT REFERENCES THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN, WHICH DESCRIBES THE AUSTIN. WE ASPIRE TO BE IN 2039. THAT VISION IS AWESOME. HOWEVER, WE WOULD ARGUE THAT IT'S UNFAIR TO HOLD EXISTING RESIDENTS TO A VISION RATHER THAN CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES. HAVE I BETTER SAY WE APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING AND WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE SIMPLY OPPOSED TO A HIGH DENSITY OPTION ON THIS VERY SMALL PARCEL. AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER SFX AS A COMPROMISE. THERE ARE SEVERAL ETHNIC COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, MR. GARDENY GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ANDREW CODINE. I LIVE IN TEXAS OAK SOUTH AT THE VERY END OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MY HOME IS TWO MILES FROM MILLBROOK AND SLAUGHTER. AND IF THAT'S UP TO THE SOLDER CREEK GREENBELT, NO, OUR NEIGHBOR HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT, A WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE AS A WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE WITH HIGH FIRE RISK. THE MAPS INCLUDED IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD PACKET INCLUDES FIRE RISK INFORMATION GENERATED BY AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WAS SHOWN AS HONEYCOMB RED, BLACK, AND YELLOW SHAPES IN 2011. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCED A WILDFIRE WHILE SEVERAL STRUCTURES WERE LOST ON UP ON LAMB. YOU'RE DAVID MOORE AND MARY MORRISSEY WRIGHT PARK RULES ABOUT THESE WILDFIRES WAS NOT WIDESPREAD DUE TO IT OCCURRING AROUND THE SAME TIME AS THE DEVASTATING FIRES UP AND BACKDROP IN STEINER RANCH, WHICH ABSORBED MOST OF THE MEDIA ATTENTION. SO MANY WILDFIRES OFTEN OCCUR IN A SIMILAR TIMEFRAME DUE TO DROUGHT CONDITIONS BECAUSE OF THIS RESCUE RESOURCES CAN BE EXHAUSTED AND RESIDENTS NEED THE ABILITY TO SELF EVACUATE. OFTEN FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS NOTED THAT THERE IS A QUOTE SERIOUS VACCINATION ISSUE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND QUOTE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LOOKS THAT LIFE SAFETY CORRIDORS, THESE ARE EVACUATION CORRIDORS THAT MUST HAVE INGRESS AND EGRESS THE QUARTER'S MUST THEMSELVES HAVE SAFE AND SECURE EGRESS FOR THE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS INGRESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. WOODWORTH PROVIDES THIS OPTION. HOWEVER, MOST DAVID MOORE AS AN EVACUATION ROUTE IS VERY, IS A VERY POOR LIFE SAFETY CORRIDOR BECAUSE OF ITS WIDTH AND ITS IMMEDIATE CONNECTION TO THE PARK FAR FROM THE PARK IT'S EASILY CUT OFF EVEN MORE DURING AN EMERGENCY LEAVING ALL 1600 PLUS HOUSEHOLDS WITH ONLY BILL BRICK TO ESCAPE, CONTINUING TO EXACERBATE THE BOTTLENECK CONDITIONS AT TOBRUK DUE TO DENSE DEVELOPMENT AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCE IS I WOULD SAY DANGEROUS AND IRRESPONSIBLE. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT DID NOT REVIEW ZONING RECOMMENDATIONS OR ITS IMPACTS ON THE EVACUATION AND SAFETY THAT CAN HELP OUR COMMUNITY BY KEEPING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SAFE BY LIMITING THE ZONING AND THE VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY ON BELLBROOK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME MS. [01:30:01] ADAMS HI, THIS IS MICHELLE ADAMS, PRESIDENT OF THE TEXAS OAK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT CONSIDERATION TOWARDS REDUCING THE DENSITY OR DENYING THIS ZONING REQUEST TO ALLOW THE NECESSARY TIME REQUIRED, TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THE TIA, CREATE MODELING FOR THE FUTURE CONDITIONS AND HAVE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS AND COME UP WITH WIN-WIN SOLUTION FOR THE MOST IDEAL FUTURE ZONING FOR THIS PARCEL, WHICH WOULD IDEALLY INCORPORATE THE SAFETY CONCERNS OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND MEET THE GOALS OF OUR CITY TO INCREASE OUR HOUSING SUPPLY SUSTAINABLY. THE REQUESTED MS. DOWNING IS OUT OF PLACE FOR THIS SURROUNDING AREA AND PARCEL ASIDE FROM ALL THE ISSUES YOU'VE HEARD SO FAR, THERE IS NO PRECEDENT FOR THIS TYPE OF ZONING HERE. THE SUBJECT PARCEL DOES NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO WATER, NO OTHER MF ZONING ALONG ALL OF SLAUGHTER CONGRESS, OR EVEN SOUTH FIRST FEEDS ONTO A LEVEL ONE ROAD, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT ONLY HAS ONE WAY IN. AND ONE WAY OUT OF AN ALREADY FAILING INTERSECTION, THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM SF FOUR ZONING OF THE HOLLOWS AND NEXT TO AN ETJ LAND WHERE THE STORAGE UNITS ARE THE CLOSEST. AND AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT HAS DIRECT ACCESS TO WATER WITH A DEDICATED LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANE AND THEIR OWN TRAFFIC LIGHT. THE ZONING ACROSS THE STREET IS ACTUALLY SS FOUR TOWNHOMES WITH A DEDICATED LIGHT AND ACCESS FLOOR AS A REAL ESTATE BROKER. I BELIEVE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THIS PARCEL HAS NOT ATTRACTED THE APPROPRIATE ZONING AND SUBSEQUENT DEVELOPER HAS BEEN THAT IT HAS BEEN MARKETED AS HAVING A SQUATTER LANE ADDRESS WITH A $2.4 MILLION PRICE TAG. THIS IS ONLY GOING TO ATTRACT DEVELOPERS SEEKING HIGH DENSITY, NOT ONE WITH A MORE APPROPRIATE ZONING REQUEST. AS A REMINDER, THE LOSS OF SERVICE OF LEVEL F THAT THE APPLICANT'S NTA REVEALED IS LIKELY NOT ACCURATE WITH THE BELLBROOK AND PLOTTER IMPROVEMENTS. ATD CONFIRMED AGAIN THAT THE APPLICANT'S ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC STUDY DOES NOT INCLUDE THE UPCOMING CHANGES TO THE BUILD WORK AND FODDER INTERSECTION. THEREFORE, THE STUDY DOESN'T ACCURATELY REFLECT THE INTERSECTION BLOCKS OF SERVICE BASED ON SOME LIMITED MODELING, WE ESTIMATED FOR THE APPROVED IMPROVEMENT SUPPORT BUILT BRICK AND SOLDER. IT WOULD INDICATE LIKELY A LEVEL II FOR BILL BURKE AND SLAUGHTER. NOT THEREFORE STAFF WOULD THEORETICALLY RECOMMEND NOT GOING BEYOND A LEVEL II, WHICH WOULD REVEAL A MUCH LESS DENSE DEVELOPMENT, LIKELY MAXING OUT AT AN SS SIX OR MF ONE RECOMMENDATION, BUT BECAUSE THE MODELING HAS NOT BEEN DONE THROUGH ATD, THE LEVEL F CAN BE FURTHER EXACERBATED AND PUSHED TO UNKNOWN LEVELS OF FAILURE AND CONSIDERATIONS. THERE IS NO LEVEL BELOW F WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE COMMISSIONERS, LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THIS SPECIFIC CASE AND THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT NOT HAVE YET BEEN ADDRESSED. WE BELIEVE EITHER A COMPROMISE OF OR OR A FULL DENIAL OF THIS SPECIFIC ZONING REQUEST IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING REQUIREMENTS. AS YOU MAY KNOW, AS SOON AS THE DEVELOPMENT GOES INTO THE ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN PHASE, ALL THE CITY CAN DO IS FOLLOW THE EXISTING CODE, THE CITY, NOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD CURRENTLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE RECOMMENDED CHANGES. THE CURRENTLY REQUESTED ZONING IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA, AND THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TIME THAT WE CAN BE HEARD. SO WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND HEARING OUR CONCERNS REGARDING THIS PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST, THE EXTENDED TRIP COUNTS, BUT THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENT IS REQUESTING WOULD PUT UNDUE STRESS ON THE BOTTLENECK OF THE SLAUGHTER AND BILL BRICK INTERSECTION CREATING A SAFETY HAZARD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MRS. ADAMS. UM, YOU ARE THE LAST OPPOSITION SPEAKER AND SO WE'LL HAVE, UM, WE'LL PROCEED TO THE APPLICANT REBUTTAL. SO MR. YOUNG, IF YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, PROVIDE YOUR REBUTTAL, PLEASE, DOUG YOUNG SERBIA APPLICANT. UM, UH, I MUST, I HAVE TO CONFESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. UM, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN RELYING ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY DONE BY ATP, WHICH DOES NOT REFLECT A FAILED INTERSECTION AT THE BROKEN GENOA, OR CERTAINLY NOT GENERAL, I'M SORRY, PHILBROOK AND SLAUGHTER. AND CERTAINLY NOT GENERAL. AND BILL PARK. UM, THE ATD TRAFFIC MEMO WAS BASED IN PART ON AND A TRAFFIC STUDY OF THE INTERSECTION OF BILL BROOKE AND SLAUGHTER THAT WAS REQUESTED FROM YOU AND PROVIDED TO THAT TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWED THAT [01:35:01] FOR MORE MOVEMENT TO THAT INTERSECTION WITH AN UNDESIRABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE, UH, BE PRESENT. UM, I DON'T READ THE TRAFFIC ENABLED TRAFFIC STUDY TO INDICATE THAT THERE'S A FAILING LEVEL OF SERVICE, UM, AND IT REFLECTS IN IT THAT IT CONSIDERED THE BACKGROUND DEVELOPMENTS ON BILLBOARD PLACE, WHICH WERE ALSO IN COVID IN THE STUDY AS THEY HAD THE SLIDER IN BELLBROOK INTERSECTION BY, UH, THE APPLICANT AND PROVIDED TO ATD. I I'M VERY SYMPATHETIC TO THE, THE SAFETY CONCERNS. UM, I DON'T, THERE HAS BEEN NEVER A VIEW OF A WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE, BUT I DON'T KNOW SCRIBE IS DONE AT THE ZONE SES. SO GRAPHIC GRAPHIC WOULDN'T PROPOSE TO, UH, GET ANY VARIANCES, FAMILIAR, APPLICABLE REGULATIONS FOR THE TRAFFIC ITSELF. UM, THE REPORT SHOWS IT DOES NOT DISCLOSE ANY CERTAIN LEVEL SERVICE. UM, AND THAT'S AT THE MS SIZE, UH, ASSUMED 265 UNIT PROJECT. SO IT ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL LEFT CAN TURN, I ASSUME THAT WOULD IMPROVE TRAFFIC, BUT I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER. UH, SO I WOULDN'T PREDICT WHAT THE EFFECT WOULD BE. UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT WAS THE CLIENT AS THE APPLICANT WAS TO, UH, WELL, IT WAS REQUESTED OF THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE THAT TRAFFIC INFORMATION DID FOUND THAT IT, UH, IT DIDN'T INDICATE A BAD OUTCOME AT THE INTERSECTION. THAT IS RIGHTFULLY THE, THE CONCERN OF ALL THE NEIGHBORS. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE CAN BE DONE. THE APPLICANT HAS THREE, TWO, ALL THE MOBILITY, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, UH, CRIMINAL INSTALLATION, THE SIDEWALK, THE ENTIRE LOAN GENOA, UM, THE SIREN AGAIN, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS DONE ALL THAT CAN BE DONE ALL THAT HAS BEEN ASKED OF THE APPLICANT AND ALL THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CODE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION. THANK YOU. OKAY. I THINK THAT IS THE END OF OUR SPEAKERS. DO WE WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MR. KING? YES. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WOODY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR UNANIMOUS, GO TO DISCUSSION MR. BRAY. RIGHT. SO I HAD A, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS AN INTERESTING CASE, ESPECIALLY WITH SLAUGHTER LANE WHERE IT IS. UM, BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY, IT'S LIKE ONSLAUGHT HERE, BUT NOT REALLY ON SLAUGHTER. UM, AND ONE OF MY, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES YOU LOOK FOR DESERT DEVELOPMENT TO BE NEAR CORRIDORS AND, YOU KNOW, NEAR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UH, UH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO SAY PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE, UH, COMMERCIAL AREAS, OVERRIDE SLAUGHTER, AND MANSHACK, UH, TWO BASED ON WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, THE PROPOSAL WOULD BE A PEDESTRIAN ACTIVE GET ON JANUARY DRIVE CALLED DILBERT PLACE ALL THE WAY UP TO SLAUGHTER LANE. UH, SO HOW THE, YOU KNOW, CONDITION ACTUALLY WALKS VERSUS HOW THE CROW FLIES IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. UM, AND I, I DO SEE POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT THIS, THERE MAY BE SOME PEDESTRIAN POTENTIAL PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS. UM, SAY IF YOU HAD SOMETHING ON THE NORTH CORRIDOR THAT A, IF YOU HAD A SIDEWALK THAT WENT TO WHERE THE VALVOLINE IS, IF YOU HAD A DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE, UM, SAY TO SLAUGHTER LANE, BUT YOU'D HAVE TO GO TO THE BEGINNING OF THE BRIDGE, UH, NEAR BILL BROOKE, BUT THAT WOULD AT LEAST BE, THAT'D BE FAR CLOSER DISTANCE, BUT IT'S UNCLEAR TO ME, UH, YOU KNOW, I SEE A LOT OF MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN AUSTIN WHERE NATURALLY IT LIVED IN ONES WHERE, UH, YOU'LL HAVE LIKE FENCING ALL THE WAY AROUND THAT, THAT ONLY THE MAIN ENTRANCE ACTUALLY LOST PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. SO I WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, VERY CONCERNED IF, IF, UH, ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO HAVE, UH, UH, ACCESS FROM THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TO SLAUGHTER, UH, THROUGH VALVOLINE, UH, THE, LIKE THAT THE PROPERTY TO THE, TO THE WEST, TO THE EAST, I'M SORRY. ANOTHER POSITIVE POSSIBLE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION IS ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS. SO I WOULD, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO I GUESS THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS HERE. ONE OF THEM IS, UH, UH, AND I, I ASKED, I DID DO SOME EMAILS BEFORE THE MEETING, UH, IN FEBRUARY AND JANUARY ABOUT [01:40:01] THIS WITH STAFF. UM, SO I WOULD JUST FOR EVERYONE'S BENEFIT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE DEVELOPER, UM, THE DEVELOPER, IF THEY'VE TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT, UH, DID A DIRECT CONNECT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION, UH, TO SLAUGHTER LANE, UH, GETTING THE EASEMENTS FROM THE, UM, FROM THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE WEST, TO THE EAST, UH, BETWEEN THE, THE START OF THEIR BRIDGE ON SLAUGHTER LANE, NEAR BILLBURK AND PROPERTY. AND ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ABOUT EASTERN CONNECTION IF IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION, AND I'LL HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF ABOUT THAT. OKAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, CURTIS BD FROM BEATTY FROM ATD IS ALSO ON THE LINE. SO, UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN ANSWER, CURTIS, UH, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE QUESTION FIRST IS FOR THE APPLICANT ABOUT A BIKE PED CONNECTIVITY. THIS IS, OH, GO AHEAD. UNLESS LISTER FOR DYE WANTS TO ADD, UM, I DID PERSONALLY LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND THERE'S ABOUT A 15 FOOT ELEVATION DIFFERENCE TO THE PROPERTY AND THE BRIDGE. AND THERE'S FENCING ALSO ON TOP OF THE GUARD, WHEN THE BRIDGE LOOKS LIKE A CLEAR INTENTION TO NOT HAVE ANY PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, UM, THERE HAS BEEN NO DISCUSSION WITH THE OWNER OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, ABOUT AN EASEMENT. I'M AWARE THAT THERE'S A DRAINAGE FACILITY, POSSIBLY A WATER QUALITY FACILITY RIGHT THERE WHERE THE PROPERTIES MOVE ON THAT CORNER. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WOULD POSE A PROBLEM WITH GETTING A PEDESTRIAN EASTLAND. UM, AND I DON'T THINK TO, UH, MR. FIDEL WOULD BE OPPOSED TO THAT. IT, IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF, IT SEEMED TO BE IMPRACTICABLE BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENCE IN ELEVATION THE FENCING. I DON'T KNOW. UH, I DON'T RECALL FROM LOOKING AT THE SITE, HOW FAR ONTO THE, UH, THE LUBE SHOP PROPER YOU'D HAVE TO GO AND GET PAST THE FENCING ON, ON SLAUGHTER LANE. YES, THIS IS WITH THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. UM, I JUST, A LOT OF THAT, THE CONNECTIVITY TO DIRECT PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES, SUCH AS WHAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE WITH THE SLAUGHTER CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS. A LOT OF THAT WILL BE DEFINED AND DETERMINED AS THOMAS SITE PLAN AND NOT NECESSARILY ZONING. WOULD THAT BE A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION THERE, OR IS THERE, IS THAT STUFF SOMETHING, BECAUSE TO ME THAT FUNDAMENTALLY, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW CLOSE IS THIS TO THAT COMMERCIAL AREA FOR PEDESTRIANS, THAT'S A REALLY FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION. AS FAR AS REQUIREMENT, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK INTO THAT PART OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE GUARD RAIL AND THE DIFFERENTIAL PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE SIDEWALK DIRECTLY ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE PROBABLY IMPRACTICAL GOING TO THE BABBLING OIL CHANGE. THERE MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY, UM, OF LOOKING AT, UH, SOME CONNECTIONS, BUT I DO NOT HAVE THE CPO PLANS OF WHAT THEIR IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR PEDESTRIAN BIKES TO IDENTIFY A LOGICAL CONNECTION ON THE NORTH SIDE FOR THIS PROPERTY. NOW, I ALSO WANT TO ASK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UNDERNEATH SLAUGHTER LANE, UH, OVER THE RAILROAD TRACK THERE, UM, IS, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF DOING SOME KIND OF PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION? WOULD YOU, WOULD THERE BE A NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF LIKE, UH, SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE COULD SAFELY CROSS THE RAILROAD? UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE POSSIBILITY OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT? UH, CONNECTING TO THE DIRECTLY TO ALL LIKE THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. SO PEOPLE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE TO, UH, PROVIDED THAT TYPE OF ACCESS ON A RAILROAD. IT WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE QUITE A BIT OF EFFORT. ONE UNION PACIFIC WOULD HAVE TO BE INVOLVED BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN ADDITIONAL AT GRADE CROSSING. AND SO THEIR APPROVAL WOULD BE REQUIRED. UH, IN ADDITION, THEY WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT A SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO, UH, PROVIDE THAT CROSSING. I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE, BUT FOR WORKING WITH THE AGENTS RAILROAD AGENCIES AND TO ALSO ACCOMMODATE THE NECESSARY SAFETY REQUIREMENTS, UH, THAT WOULD NOT FIT WITHIN THE MITIGATIONS OF THIS SITE. [01:45:05] OKAY. COMMISSIONER DINKLER YOU'RE ON MUTE. SORRY. I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT RELATED TO THE ZONING. SO, UM, I'VE JUST CHECKED MY HAND DOWN, MR. KING. THANK YOU. UM, AND THIS IS A QUESTION FOR BOTH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF, AND IF WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WAS THIS AT THERE WOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR THE SITE AND IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? AND IF IT WASN'T, WHY NOT, AND THAT'S FOR BOTH THE STAFF AND THE APPLICANT I'LL, I'LL BEGIN WITH, UH, THIS IS WENDY RHODES WITH THE STAFF REGARDING, UH, SF FOUR B FOR THAT TOO, UH, PER CODE SF FOUR B ONE THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD ALREADY HAVE TO HAVE, UH, SOMETHING HIGHER THAN SF FOUR B THAT WOULD BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, EXTRANET, MULTIFAMILY, AND THEN, AND THEN A REZONING BACK TO SF FOUR B THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET EARLIER REFERENCE WAS MF TWO. AND I THINK THAT'S, UM, I THINK THAT THOSE ARE CONDOS IF I'M, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BUT IT IS ZONE TWO. OKAY. OKAY. AND ANSWER THAT, BUT NOW THAT STAFF HAS RESPECT AND I UNDERSTAND THEN WE REALLY COULDN'T TAKE THAT OPTION BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING BURNING THERE IS, IS THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, IS THAT CORRECT, WENDY? UH, YES. WOULD BE FOR CONDOMINIUMS. IT IS, UH, IT IS A CONDOMINIUM, UH, ZONING. THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER, UH, CONDOMINIUM ZONING THAT'S THAT IS POPULAR IN WHICH THE MESSINGER TRACT HAS. AND THAT'S AT A SIX FOR TOWNHOUSE AND CONDOS, THE LAST COMMISSIONER KING. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER WOODY. I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER SAID THAT THERE WILL BE SPACE FOR, UH, FOR, UH, WHAT IS IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, WITH THIS? UH, CAN YOU IDENTIFY WHAT THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING MEANS FOR THIS SPACE? UM, AGAIN, UM, TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, THIS IS ALIVE TODAY. YEAH. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO TELL HIM THE, THE PRICING, WHAT WOULD, BUT, UH, IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS. UH, IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE A MORE UNIT THAT SHOWS THE, THE COST OF RENTING PER SQUARE FOOT GOES DOWN, SO IT MAKES IT MORE AFFORDABLE. UM, IF THE NUMBER OF HUMANS ARE REQUESTING OR MFO, THE MORE UNITS WOULD HELP US REDUCE THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION SET APARTMENTS, AND ALLOW US TO RENT IT MORE AFFORDABLY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DINKLER AND THEN COMMISSIONER RAY, YOU'RE ON MUTE. I NEED AN ASSISTANT. I THINK I'M GOING TO COMMENT ON COMMISSIONER WOODY'S, UH, QUESTION, UM, HAVE THE APPLICANT, ARE YOU OFFERING ANY UNITS? UH, AND, AND I WOULD IMAGINE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE THIS PRICE POINT OUT, GIVEN YOUR PURPOSE, UH, THE PODS TO DEVELOP AND CONSTRUCT, ET CETERA, BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE YOU'RE OFFERING ANY AFFORDABLE UNITS, A 16 OR AN 80%, UM, MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME LEVEL, CORRECT? YEAH. PERSONALLY, ALL THE AVAILABLE UNITS WOULD BE MEANT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. [01:50:05] WE'VE NOT, HAVE YOU TALKED TO STAFF, ARE YOU GOING THROUGH ANY SMART HOUSING PROGRAM OR PROPOSING TAX CREDITS ON THE SIDE? HMM. MAYBE NOT PROPOSING ANY TAX CREDIT, UH, OR, UH, WE HAVEN'T, UH, PLAN ON ANY SMART HOUSING YET, BUT WE WERE LOOKING AT, UH, PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE HOUSING TO BE AFFORDABLE. OKAY. AND WHAT DO YOU DEFINE AS A AFFORDABLE, UH, 60%, UH, UH, AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME, UH, BUT AT CLOSE LEVEL, WE, IT IS HARD FOR US TO DETERMINE WHAT PERCENTAGE WOULD BECOME AVAILABLE BECAUSE OF, UH, UH, THERE'S ONLY LIMITATION VIA GOING THROUGH, UH, IF YOU, IF YOU WERE TO ALLOW, IF YOU WERE TO GET THE 240 UNITS. SO WE ARE LOOKING TO CONSTRUCT, IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO, UH, TO GIVE A MUCH HIGHER, UH, UNITS AVAILABLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS WENDY ROSE. I DID WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING CANNOT BE MADE A REQUIREMENT OF ZONING OUTSIDE OF AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING MECHANISM THAT HAS, THAT IS, UH, ADOPTED BY CODE. SO THIS IN THE ABSENCE OF A SMART HOUSING CASE, WHICH THIS IS NOT, OR, UM, ANOTHER TYPE OF ZONING CALLED VERTICAL MIXED USE DOWNING, THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO A BASE DISTRICT COMMERCIAL, A COMMERCIAL BASED DISTRICT. THIS, WE CANNOT REQUIRE AS PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE PARTICIPATION IN AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM. THANK YOU. AND, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY, UH, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT 7%. UM, THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S EXPRESSED DESIRE, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A GUARANTEE, CORRECT. MISS RODS. I, I BELIEVE THAT'S, I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT. HOWEVER, ANY, ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING WOULD THAT IS DESIRED FOR THIS PROPERTY WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE BY A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. IT COULDN'T BE INCORPORATED INTO A ZONING ORDINANCE, OR I UNDERSTOOD THAT. AND SOME OF THIS REALLY RELATES TO ORDER A PROCESS IS WE'VE GOTTEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUESTS WHERE THEY'VE CHANGED, ASKED FOR THE ZONING BEFORE THEY'VE GONE THROUGH SMART HOUSING AND WE'VE GOT AT AND VICE. SO I JUST WANTED TO BE REAL CLEAR. THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS WOULD EVEN BE 7% OF THE UNITS WOULD BE AT 60% MFI, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU, MR. RAY, I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. UM, AS COMMISSIONER GLARE, JUST, UM, HIT HOME. WE DON'T HAVE THAT GUARANTEE IN THE ABSENCE OF THE PARTICIPATION IN PROGRAMS LIKE SMART HOUSING OR PURSUING TAX CREDIT FINANCE. UM, HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENCOURAGE SUPPLY AND THE PRODUCTION OF MARKET RATE HOUSING, WHICH IS WHAT A HIRING INTENSITY WOULD DO HERE. UM, I THINK MY POINTS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE ARE JUST MORE GENERAL ONES, UM, ABOUT WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AN INTERSECTION BEING GRAVE F OR GREED E UM, THIS FAILURE JUST, IT'S REALLY NOT LIMITED TO SLAUGHTER AND BELLBROOK. UM, THIS IS A FAILURE WE'RE SEEING ACROSS OUR WHOLE CITY IN THAT OUR ROADWAY CAPACITY IS BUILT OUT. UM, REALLY LIKE OUR WHOLE CITY IS FAILING IN THIS SENSE. UM, BUT THIS FACT DOESN'T HAVE TO PREVENT US FROM, UM, BUILDING HIGHER INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT, RATHER WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK TOWARDS FOR MORE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS IN OUR FUTURE IS INVESTING IN MULTIMODAL ALTERNATIVES. UM, SO I'M REALLY GLAD THAT COMMISSIONER BRAY WAS, UM, INSTIGATING A DEEPER LEVEL OF QUESTIONING AND ANALYSIS ABOUT IMPROVING PEDESTRIAN ACCESS. UM, THERE ARE MULTIMODAL MITIGATIONS INCLUDED, UM, IN THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT WE SEE. AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT SIDE OF THE CONVERSATION VERSUS THINKING, CAN WE EVER IMPROVE AN INTERSECTION BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TO IMPROVE AN INTERSECTION, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BUILD ANYTHING AT HIGHER DENSITY. AND IF WE CONTINUE TO ONLY BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, OUR AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IS ONLY GOING TO WORSEN. CAN I SHARE WOODY? YEAH. BUT, [01:55:01] UH, BUT, UH, BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT AN AREA LIKE THIS WITH THE ONLY ONE, ONE EXIT WAY. UM, LIKE THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN, UM, THIS IS A FIRE HAZARD WAITING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THIS IS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION WAITING TO HAPPEN. AND I, I, I THINK YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY'S, UH, OPINIONS ON THIS, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS REALLY SERIOUS. IT'S REALLY SERIOUS TO ME. YEAH. I DO WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, CHEER MORE, YOU KNOW, UH, HIGHER, HIGHER, HIGHER CAPACITY HOUSING IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS GOOD FOR SOME CASES, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT IS GOOD FOR THIS SPECIFIC CASE AT ALL, YOU KNOW? OKAY. NOW EVERYBODY COMMISSIONER DANGLER AND THEN SMITH AND THEN KING, THIS IS PERMISSION FROM THIS ROADS. UM, AND THEN I'D BE SEEING IT FROM STAFF, FROM TRANSPORTATION TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. UM, WHEN DID IT, YOU LOOK AT SF SIX, UM, OR MF TWO, I THINK, UM, FRANKLY THAT, UH, MF FOUR M FIVE OR WAY OVER WHAT THE ZONING SHOULD HAVE BEEN. UM, BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE WAS SOME LEGITIMACY IN THE ARGUMENTS THAT NEIGHBORS ARE MAKING ABOUT . UM, SO DO YOU HAVE A DIGITAL LOOK AT M SIX? DID YOU LOOK AT MFA? DO YOU HAVE A SENSE AND I HAVE GOING, I'M GOING TO BE RELYING ON COMMISSIONER SMITH. YOU GIVE ME YOUR ROUGH CALCULATION ON THE, UH, THE SUBSETS, HOW MANY UNITS TO GENERATE, BUT DID YOU LOOK AT IT? AND, UM, HOW MANY DID YOU FIGURE OUT LOOK AT THAT IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF UNITS, UM, FRANKLY, THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN ANOTHER TYPE OF HOUSING, YOU COULD HAVE CLUSTERED IT TOGETHER. UM, SO, UH, WHY DID WE GO APARTMENTS? I HAVE TO ADMIT SOME OF ME IS HIDING AT THE ARGUMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY SALE OF THE PROPERTY. UH, I HOPE WE'RE NOT ZONING TO MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT POSSIBLE PURCHASE, BUT, UH, FILL ME IN MS. ROSE. SO YES, WE, THE ZONING REVIEW GROUP DID LOOK AT A RANGE OF, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS FOR THIS SITE. WE LOOKED BRIEFLY AT THE APPLICANT'S ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR MF AND, UH, DECIDED THAT WAS, UM, A LITTLE BIT OUT OF SCALE FOR THIS PROPERTY. AND SO WE, WE WORKED OUR, OUR WAY DOWN TO . UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHERE WE LANDED. YES, WE DID LOOK AT AND, UH, HOWEVER, UH, WHAT WE DECIDED WAS THIS SITE IS LOCATED BETWEEN TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND, UH, THAT, UH, COMBINED WITH THE CONSTRAINTS ALREADY ON THIS SITE, BEING THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT IN PARTICULAR, UM, DID MOVE US TOWARDS A, I WOULD SAY MID-LEVEL MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT. UH, WE DID HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THIS, UH, PROPERTY SHOULD BE ZONE GIVEN ITS PARTICULAR LOCATION. UH, BUT AGAIN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IS LOCATED BETWEEN TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND USES, AND IT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION. AND THAT IS HOW WE ARRIVED AT AN OF THREE. IN ADDITION, LIKE I SAID TO THE CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE SITE. AND THEN YOU ALSO ASKED ABOUT, UH, NUMBERS AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER SMITH IS, UH, WOULD PROBABLY BE WHAT WOULD PROBABLY BE OF HELPFUL WOULD PROBABLY BE OF HELP HERE. UM, BUT UNDER ARREST OF SIX WAS THE NUMBER I CAME UP WITH 64 UNITS UNDER, UM, UNDER IT WOULD RANGE BETWEEN 102 AND 141 EFFICIENCIES ON THIS. THIS DOES NOT COUNT FOR ANY CONSTRAINTS THAT MAY BE FOUND, BUT IT'S STRICTLY BASED ON THE ACREAGE OF THE SITE AND THE UNIT THAT COULD BE ACHIEVED SO ENOUGH TO, IT'D BE 102 TO ONE 41, AND THIS ONE WOULD BE 69 THROUGH 90. OKAY. UH, MF ONE WOULD BE UP TO 90. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU GET THAT TO ME AGAIN? AND THAT WOULD BE MORE, THAT WOULD BE IF YOU'RE DOING TOTAL, IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING THE FLIGHT WITH EFFICIENCY UNITS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND YOU REALIZE THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT, EVEN THOUGH IT SOUNDS LR IS UNDEVELOPED. WHAT'S THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE LEFT? I DON'T REMEMBER IT. I SAY THE ZONING [02:00:01] CSE, YOU KNOW, BUT IS IT DEVELOPED, UH, THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS AS MANY WAREHOUSES PROPERTY TO THE SORRY, THE WEST, AS MANY WAREHOUSES INTO THE EAST, IT'S A, UH, OIL LUBE CENTER, A VALVOLINE, BUT THAT'S A LITTLE TINY PIECE OF AN UNDEVELOPED SITE. RIGHT. SO THAT IS, UH, THAT, THAT IS CF ONE. IT IS, IT IS NOT DEVELOPED. IT'S A PAD FOR CS. ONE THAT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED. OKAY. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE LR IT'S UNDEVELOPED, BUT THERE IS A LITTLE GYPSY. YEAH. GOTCHA. OKAY. YOU'RE HELPED. AND THEN A QUICK MISSION OF STAFF, UH, LEVEL, UM, FI UH, F FOR FAILURE, ASSUMING THE INFORMATION THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS BRINGING IS CORRECT. AND I DIDN'T SEE MESSENGER IN YOUR TOTALS, BUT HOW LONG OF A DELAY IS THAT IN SECONDS? ARE WE TALKING TWO MINUTES, FOUR MINUTES? UM, WHAT, YES. UM, IT IS A CUMULATIVE DELAY. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A STIMULATION OF MULTIPLE DELAYS, THAT LEVEL OF WHAT BREAKS, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEVEL OF E AND LEVEL OF LEVEL OF SERVICE E AND LEVEL OF SERVICE F I DON'T HAVE THAT THRESHOLD, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW CAN BE UP TO OVER A THOUSAND, A THOUSAND SECONDS OF DELAY. UM, AND THAT IS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AS IS IN THE SINGLE LEFT TURN LANE. WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHEN THEY DO LAST GET BUILT, THEY EXPERIENCED NO MORE DELAY THEN THAN AS THEY DO NOW, BECAUSE THAT DUAL LEFT, THAT WAS A NEGOTIATED PART OF THE MITIGATION. SO THE MESSAGE OR TRACK WILL HAVE ENOUGH IMPROVEMENTS THAT IT, THE EXPERIENCE WILL BE VERY EQUIVALENT TO WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW. UH, BUT YES, IT STILL WILL BE CLASSIFIED AS A LEVEL OF SERVICE F OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. I'M NOT TOTALLY UNDERSTANDING WHY THE, UH, UH, WHY YOU'VE REACHED THE CONCLUSION. IF THE MESSENGER TRACK WAS NOT INCLUDED, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO LONG ON THIS, BUT I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO GET ANSWERED ULTIMATELY, AT THE STAFF COUNCIL MEETING, YES, IT'S VERY EASILY WITH THE MTA. ACTUALLY, NO INTERSECTION ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED, AS APPLICANT HAS INDICATED, THEY VOLUNTARILY, UH, UH, WITH OUR SUGGESTION, ATD SUGGESTION IS TO DO AN INTERSECTION ANALYSIS AND THEY PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION. DID THEY INCLUDE ALL THE BACKGROUND TRAFFIC? YES. THEY INCLUDED THE TRAFFIC OF MESSENGER TRACK. THEY INCLUDED THE MURROW TRACK. THEY PUT IT ALSO THIS PROPOSED SITE DEVELOPMENT TRAFFIC. HE DID NOT ASK THEM TO MODEL IT WITH A DOOR LEFT BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT MODELING AS A SINGLE LAST DUAL LAST WILL MAKE IT EVEN BETTER. SO WE'LL SHOW WE WENT CONSERVATIVE AND LOOKED AT JUST WHAT COULD BE THE MAXIMUM IMPACT OF DELAY IF IT HAD JUST A SINGLE LEFT TURN LANE, CAN ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS WORK. GOTCHA. UM, AND A THOUSAND SECONDS DIVIDED BY 60 IS ALMOST 17. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR A PASSENGER WAITING IN A CAR. CAUSE I DON'T THINK EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO WALK OR BIKE TO GET THEIR GROCERIES OR GO TO WORK FROM THIS LARGE AREA. UM, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN ALSO WHAT THE DUAL LEFT COME IN. IT WILL STILL BE CONSIDERED A LEVEL OF SERVICE. HOWEVER, THE DELAY DROPS DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED, RIGHT. T TO WHAT? I'M SORRY. OKAY. TO APPROXIMATELY 330 SECONDS. OKAY. OH, THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. YEAH. OH ME, I'M PRETTY MUCH WITH THE GOLD LEFT WILL BE NOTICEABLE. AND, UH, THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CREATES A SITUATION WORSE THAN IT IS TODAY, ONCE THE DOOR THAT HELPS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WHERE IT IS, IS THAT 330 SECONDS EXPERIENCED BY EACH VEHICLE? THAT'S WAITING AT THE SIGNAL THEN HOW THAT WORKS. IF THE EXECUTE ALL THE DELAYS OF ALL THE VEHICLES, TOTAL ACCUMULATED DELAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY. COMMISSIONER SMITH. [02:05:01] YEAH. UM, COUPLE OF POINTS I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IN AN EMERGENCY CONDITION. IF WE TALK ABOUT WILDFIRE AND EVACUATION, IT'S NOT JUST ONE WAY IN OUT BELLBROOK IS NOT THE ONLY RIGHT, BUT THAT'S THE MAIN ROAD IN AND OUT DURING DAILY USE TRAFFIC. UM, BUT ALL THESE ROADS ALSO CONNECT OVER TO DAVID MOORE AND DAVID MOORE ACCESSES ONTO SLAUGHTER CREEK. YOU CAN'T TAKE A LEFT, YOU CAN ONLY TURN THE RIDE AND THEN EVACUATION, YOU JUST THROW OUT ANY WAY YOU CAN, IN AN ADDITION, UM, THERE'S NO ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT'S IN THERE. AND THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL CONNECTS MARY MORRISSEY RIGHT OVER TO DAVID MORRIS MIDDLE SCHOOL. UM, SO AGAIN, AN EVACUATION, YOU BE CUTTING THROUGH GREATEST MIDDLE SCHOOL AND CONNECTING TO SOUTH MARY MORRISSEY, RIGHT PARK. YOU WOULDN'T DO IT ON A DAY IN DAY OUT BASIS. FOR EVACUATION PURPOSES, YOU HAVE THREE SIGNIFICANT ROADWAYS THAT HAVE ACCESS OVER TO SLAUGHTER LANE FOR EVACUATION PURPOSES. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THIS IS CONCENTRATES ROTATION DURING EMERGENCY OPERATIONS, SUCH AS AN EVACUATION SIGNAL, OPERATIONS WILL BASICALLY BE SUSPENDED AND THOSE WILL BE CONTROLLED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE FAR OFF. AND SO IT WILL BE GIVEN THE PRIMARY OPERATION OF MOVING VEHICLES AWAY OUT OF THE EMERGENCY AREA IN THE SIGNAL SYSTEM, TIMING. IT GOES OUT THE DOOR FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, BUT WE'RE TALKING A LEVEL OF SERVICES, R H E F AND SUCH NOT THAT'S DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS. CORRECT? CORRECT. ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONER SMITH. OKAY. I THINK COMMISSIONER KING. WASN'T IT. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. UH, BROKE UP, BUT I'M GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER DANKER HAD COVERED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I HAD ABOUT SF SIX AND THE OTHER OTHER OPTIONS THERE. SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE QUESTIONS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE GOOD QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS TONIGHT. UM, AND, AND I, I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, AFTER HAVING LISTENED TO EVERYTHING AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPETING INTERESTS HERE THAT WE HAVE TO BALANCE ON THIS COMMISSION. AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE NEED MORE HOUSING AND WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WHEN I SAY AFFORDABLE, I MEAN, 60% MEDIAN, FAMILY INCOME, 30% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. REAL AFFORDABILITY THERE. AND, UH, SO WE DO NEED ALL OF THOSE, BUT WE ALSO NEED, WE ALSO NEED NEIGHBORHOODS TO HAVE REASONABLE ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT IF THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, WHAT KIND OF A SITUATION AM I GOING TO BE IN AND DAY TO DAY JUST TRAFFIC. SO, YES, YOU KNOW, I AGREE. WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T WAIT, WE CAN'T SAY NO TO ZONING JUST BECAUSE THE INTERSECTION IS NOT IMPROVED, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE CAN ATTENUATE OR BALANCE THAT ZONING TO TAKE INTO FAT, INTO CONSIDERATION THE CURRENT EXISTING SITUATIONS. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. AND LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAYING, YEAH, WE'VE GOT THESE CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW. AND YES, WE CAN DIAL UP THAT ZONING TO HIGH DENSITY. AND WE KNOW, I BELIEVE IN MY HEART OF HEARTS, I BELIEVE WE'RE NOT EVER GOING TO KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND ON TREND ON OUR TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. WE'RE NOT WITHOUT HAVING TO DO SOME OTHER LONGER TERM THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE DECADES TO GET IT TO. SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS BALANCE THIS OUT AND FIND SORT OF THE SWEET SPOT HERE THAT, THAT, THAT HELPS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADDRESS, THE CONCERNS THEY'RE DEALING WITH. THEY LIVE THEIR DAY TO DAY. WE DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO WE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR THEM TO LIVE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND DEAL WITH THIS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS, BUT WHAT I'VE HEARD CONCERNS ME. SO I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT GIVES US, UH, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO DEAL WITH WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS LOOKING AT, BUT ALSO GIVES US SOME MORE CAPACITY. SO MORE HOUSING. I HEAR THAT, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T JUST SAY MORE CAPACITY. NO, NO MATTER WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NO MATTER WHAT THAT IMPACT IS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I'M SAYING NO MATTER WHAT, AND, AND YOU ALL ARE NOT SAYING THAT, I UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE NOT SAYING NO MATTER WHAT, BUT WE HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT, I THINK AREA WE'RE GOING TO LAND ON. WHEN WE SAY, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT IMPACT WE'RE WILLING TO DEAL WILLING TO ACCEPT, TO, TO HAVE MORE HOUSING, TO HELP WITH THE HOUSING SUPPLY PROBLEM. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT MAYBE AN MF ONE, UH, OR AN MF TWO HERE, AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS, YOU KNOW, , I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET TO SOME SWEET SPOT WITH AN MF TWO ZONING THERE. SO I JUST THROW THAT OUT TO SEE IF THERE MIGHT BE ANY INTEREST IN THAT. IS THAT A MOTION? WELL, I GUESS I WILL MAKE THE MOTION FOR ZONING ON THIS. UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ALSO INCLUDING ALL [02:10:01] THE MITIGATIONS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION MITIGATIONS THAT ARE DOCUMENTED IN THE, IN THE, IN THE CASE HERE. SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION EMF TOO. THERE A SECOND SHOOTING, CLAIRE REAL QUICKLY THAT GOT UP TO 90. HOW MANY UNITS FROM UP TO ONE 41, ONE 41. UM, AND THAT'S THAT'S, BUT THAT'S ASSUMING NO, NONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THOSE WERE THE A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK FOR THE CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE OR A DRAINAGE EASEMENT. I THINK IT ALSO ASSUMES ALL EFFICIENCY UNITS, NO TWO BEDROOMS FOR FIVE MINUTES. SO YOU LOSE THE FLEXIBILITY IN ORDER TO A BETTER UNIT FOR FAMILIES. OKAY. UH, WELL, WELL LET ME JUST POINT OUT COMMISSIONER SMITH. I, YOU, YOU, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU COULD ASSUME THE DEVELOPER MIGHT SAY, WELL, TO GET MORE UNITS, I'M GOING TO MAKE THEM ALL EFFICIENCIES. BUT I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST AN ASSUMPTION AND I APPRECIATE THAT IT'S COMING FROM YOU. YOU, I RESPECT YOU. AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS AREA, SO I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL OF YOU. I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT'S A, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THAT'S NOT A CERTAINTY EITHER. SO I WASN'T SAYING THE 140 IS BASED ON ALL UNITS THING EFFICIENCIES. RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND OTHER UNITS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS THAN 4,400 FOOT ALL EFFICIENCIES. GOT TO UNDERSTAND. YES, I GOT YOU. NOW. I HEAR YOU. I HEAR, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A LITTLE HARD ON MY END. I'M SORRY. THE SOUND IS A LITTLE DELAYED BACK HERE. IT REALLY IS. I'M UH, I, I CAN SEE THE MOUTH BEFORE I HEAR THE SOUND. SO, SO ANYWAY, UH, WAS THERE A SECOND CHAIR ON THAT? I DON'T KNOW. COMMISSIONER WOULD HAVE BEEN YOU SECONDING OR DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION THAT WAS THE SECOND. OKAY. YEAH. AND I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OR A COUPLE OF POINTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE AS WELL. UM, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT INTERESTS ME IS THIS, UH, THE 300 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY AND THE IDEA OF, UM, OH, THAT'S BASICALLY HALF OF THE HALF OF THE SITE. RIGHT. SO IF THEY DID HAVE TO, IF THEY WERE GOING TO DO UP TO 60 FEET IN HEIGHT, IT WOULD BE PUSHED BACK, UH, YOU KNOW, ALMOST HALF OF THE SITE WITH, FROM GENOA. UM, ADDITIONALLY, UH, THAT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE OF THE BRIDGE, BECAUSE THE BRIDGE IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW TALL IT IS, MAYBE IT'S 30 FEET, SO IT WOULD BE HALF OF THE HEIGHT OF THE, UM, OF THE UNITS. UH, SO YOU WOULD ONLY SEE THE TOP HALF STICKING OUT RIGHT WHEN THEY'RE AT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT THERE. SO I LIKE THE IDEA THAT IT'S STEPPED BACK FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY. UM, UM, I ALSO LIKED ALL THE DISCUSSION ABOUT MULTI MULTIMODAL CONNECTIONS. OF COURSE, YOU GUYS KNOW, I LIKE THAT STUFF. AND I ALSO ASKED ABOUT, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE BRIDGE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW ON THE BACKUP, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE PUBLIC WORKS WAS, UH, WAS SEEKING FUNDING TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS. SO THAT'S, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. UM, AND I KIND OF THAT THOSE ARE ALL MY THOUGHTS REALLY, THAT I HAVE SO FAR, I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE REALLY WEIGHING IS, IS A HUNDRED OR SO UNITS ENOUGH FOR, UM, THE APPLICANT TO BE OKAY. AND ARE WE STRIKING A GOOD BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT THE APPLICANTS ASKING AND WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ASKING? SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH. I WOULD AGREE. I THINK STAFF AT A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF COMING TO THE COMPROMISE WITH RECOMMENDING MF THREE, WHICH IS THE DIRECT, AND I WOULD TEND TO LEAN, UH, COMMISSIONER KOSTA. UH, THANK YOU JUST A SECOND LOOK, COMMISSIONER SMITH SET. I THINK THAT REALLY SF THREE IS A GOOD COMPROMISE. IT'S HALF THE UNITS OF FS OF S OF MSX, EXCUSE ME, AND ALSO PROVIDES FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FORMS OF HOUSING IN THAT AREA. I THINK THAT SF THREE ALSO WITH THE SETBACK PROBABLY WON'T EVEN GET THAT FULL, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS YOU CAN GET OUT OF MP3. I DON'T THINK YOU'D HAVE THAT WITH THE SETBACK. SO PROBABLY THAT WOULD LOOK SOMETHING MORE LIKE LESS THAN, OR JUST AROUND A HUNDRED OR SO UNITS. UH, AND AGAIN, AS THE, I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, I THINK THEY HAVE A VALID POINT THAT JUST WITH THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF ROAD ACCESS, EVEN IF WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, THERE ARE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS CURRENTLY IN PROGRESS, FURTHER SOUTH OF THIS PLAT, WHICH WILL WHEN FULLY BUILT OUT, ADD ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC OF THEIR OWN. UH, AND SO I DO THINK IT IS WORTH ADDING THAT CONTEXT TO THE SITUATION, BUT THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS THE, THE, THE PLOT THAT WILL BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE MAIN STREET, EVEN IF THEY AREN'T GIVEN DIRECT ACCESS TO [02:15:01] SLAUGHTER THAT THEY'LL HAVE THE LESS THE LEAST IMPACT OF COMING IN AND OUT OF IT. SO I THINK THAT'S WORTH CONSIDERING AS WELL. SO I FEEL ASSET THREE IS THE BEST COMPROMISE IN MY OPINION. SO SHOULD WE NOT VOTE IN FAVOR OF NSF TWO? I, I DO THINK THAT EMOTION FOR US, UH, FOR APPROVING THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, I THINK YOU MADE, I KEEP SAYING IT'S, SFMF MY APOLOGIES. NO WORRIES. I THINK WE ALL GOT YA. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BRAY. AND THEN DID I SEE ANOTHER HAND AFTER THAT? NO. OKAY. MR. BRAY. OH, SO I'M ALSO LEANING TOWARDS MS. THREE. I WAS A PEDESTRIAN ISSUES. I WOULD NOT WANT TO GO HIGHER THAN THAT. UM, I AM CURIOUS ABOUT, ARE THE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS DIFFERENT FROM MF THREE VERSUS MF TWO? UH, NO. THIS, THIS IS WENDY ROSE. NO, THAT THE SAME MS. THE SAME COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS WOULD APPLY. UM, HOWEVER, UM, MF TOO. LET'S SEE THE HEIGHT ON THAT 40 THAT'S GOOD. SO I'M LOOKING AT AND IT'S 40 FEET. I'M LOOKING AT MF TWO AND IT'S 40 FEET. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE COVER INTENSITY DEFINITELY UP THE 23 UNITS PER ACRE VERSUS HIM AT THREE AT 30 16 PER ACRE AND THE 50 TO 50 . OKAY. AND ALSO LIKE THE TRANSPORTATION, YOU KNOW, DID, DID THEY LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SEE THE, UH, IT WAS A LOT OF THE COMMISSIONER SMITH BROUGHT UP THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT IF THERE'S A CONNECTION AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS, UM, DOES THE, DO THEY LOOK AT LIKE THE FIRE ESCAPE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH ROAD SPACE THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SPEED, WHAT THE SPEED OF, YOU KNOW, I, I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UH, WONDER IF THAT ANY KIND OF DATA BEHIND HOW MANY ROWS, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYONE'S TRYING TO LEAVE AT ONCE, HOW LONG WOULD IT ACTUALLY TAKE EVERYONE TO LEAVE? UM, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF ROADS OR, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR WOULD THE BACKUP BE, UH, FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO LEAVE, IF LIKE, SO EVERYONE'S TRYING TO LEAVE AT ONCE. DID STAFF LOOK AT THAT THE CONCENT TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT DOES NOT LOOK AT THAT, THAT FALLS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF OXFORD FIRE DEPARTMENT. I'M ASSUMING THAT WE, PART OF THE FIRE PURPOSE REVIEW THE SIDELINE. YEAH. AND THEN THAT'S WHERE IT GETS ME CRAZY. CAUSE THIS IS REALLY PERTINENT TO THE ZONING. UM, UH, WHAT IS THE WIDTH OF DAVID MOORE ROAD? I, I WE'RE, AND I'M JUST LAYING THIS OUT FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL TRYING TO FIND A COMMON, UM, UH, TO GET TO SIX VOTES FOR SOMETHING. BUT IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, DAVID MOORE WAS A PRETTY YUCKY SUBSTANDARD ROAD, I THINK WE WERE TALKING 10 FEET WIDE LANES AND, UM, UH, YEAH. OKAY. UH, NOW WHAT IT SAYS ON ITS ACTUAL WIDTH AND PAVEMENT ARE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. I, I REMEMBER WE LOOKED AT THIS, SO IT'S KIND OF GETTING TO WHAT COMMISSIONER BRAY IS ASKING STEINER RANCHES EVACUATION WENT ON FOR WHAT, SIX, EIGHT HOURS. I'M TRYING TO GOOGLE IT HERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE TWO POINTS OUT, UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH ARE NECESSARILY TOTALLY USABLE IF, IF, IF DAVID MORTON A GREAT ROAD AND MAYBE IF, IF, UH, MARY C WRITES THE ONE THAT'S ON FIRE, WE DON'T DO A GREAT JOB OF MAINTAINING OUR PARKS OR EVEN PUTTING FIREBREAKS AND BCP LAND. SO, UM, CAN TRANSPORTATION, DOES, DO THEY KNOW THE PAVEMENT WITH ON DAVID MORE REAL QUICK? I'VE I THINK I'M GETTING A LITTLE DETAILED HERE, SO DON'T, LET ME TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME. THIS IS WENDY ROSE. I CAN HELP FLIP THAT. UM, I DID FIND THE MESSINGER CASE REPORT AND DAVID MOORE DRIVE AT MESSINGER. THE PAVEMENT WAS 20 FEET WIDE RIGHT AWAY. WHY? BOTH WAYS. OKAY. GOTCHA. THANK YOU, WENDY. I APPRECIATE IT. AND I THINK I MISSPOKE WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT 60 FEET. I THINK THAT WAS THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR THE OVERLAY. SO, UM, MF THREE WOULD BE THE HEIGHT LIMIT WOULD BE 40 FEET AND THEN THE COMPATIBILITY WOULD STILL BE 40 FEET AT MAXIMUM. IS THAT CORRECT? WENDY'S WHERE THERE WOULDN'T [02:20:01] BE A SETBACK REQUIREMENT OR WHAT DOES THAT, UH, COMPATIBILITY WITH WOULD STILL APPLY IN, IN, IN A MULTIFAMILY, UM, W FOR MULTI-FAMILY ZONING, THE, THE HEIGHT IS, IS MAXIMUM OF 40 FEET FOR BOTH. UM, IT WOULD JUST BE THE, THE, I CAN FIND THIS IN TERMS OF WHERE IT WOULD APPROXIMATELY BE ON THE SITE. UM, AND JUST A MOMENT. OKAY. OKAY. SO 40 FEET COULD BE ACHIEVED AT A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. UM, GENOA DRIVE IS 70 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY. SO 40 FEET WOULD, IT WOULD, UH, IT WOULD NOT BE VERY FAR BACK FROM THE, UH, SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE. OKAY, GREAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE DO HAVE A ITEM ON THE TABLE OR A MOTION ON THE TABLE. THAT'S FOR . DO WE WANT TO DO FOR THE QUESTION ON THAT? OR DO WE WANT TO, YES, GO AHEAD. SO YOU'RE DONE WITH THIS CHAIR. SURE, SURE. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UM, COMMISSIONER KING'S MOTION FOR MF BEFORE, AND THEN ALL THOSE OPPOSED. OKAY. SO WITH THAT DOES NOT PASS. AND DO I HAVE AN ALTERNATE MOTION? UH, GO AHEAD. UH, COMMISSIONER KOSTA. THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR MS. THREE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SMITH. AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION. DO WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE? SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THAT'S FIVE, ALL OF THOSE OPPOSED. OKAY. THREE AND THOSE ABSTAINING THAT PASSIVE CHAIRED. MAY I PLEASE, SO THAT DID NOT PASS WELL, IT DID NOT PASS. YES. THAT DIED OFF WITH NO MOTION. OKAY, COOL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO, BUT THOSE FORMS WITH NO RECOMMENDATION, WAIT, WAIT, WHY DOES THIS CASE, CAN WE EXPLAIN WHAT ARE THE MOTION? YOU HAVE TO HAVE SIX VOTES FOR SOMETHING TO PASS, CORRECT. AND THAT'S FINE. MOTION FAST. SO HE GOES TO THE COUNCIL CHAIR. MAY I JUST PLEASE CLARIFY? I MEAN, JUST, UH, OKAY. SO THE MOTION WAS THAT LAST MOTION FOR HIM AT THREE, THAT WAS COMMISSIONER BRAY SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SMITH, RIGHT? THAT'S A COST OF LIKE, OH MY GOD, JOE MUST HAVE MADE THE MOTION AND SMITH SECONDED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. BECAUSE TO BE CLEAR, THEY'RE NOT A COSTUME. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR A GOOD DISCUSSION. I'VE CERTAINLY LEARNED A LOT. UM, COULD WE HAVE A TWO SECOND BREAK AND LET COMMISSIONER KOSTA, UH, HOLD UP HIS CAT SO WE CAN PET IT IN MENTALLY DECOMPRESS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE, HOW NICE ARE OUR FAVORITE EX-OFFICIO MEMBER? SHE HASN'T PARADED ACROSS YET. SHE HAS ABSCONDED FROM THE CONVERSATION, BUT YEAH, DEFINITELY AGREED TO JUST TAKE A BREATH. WELL, DID SHE GET A VOTE? THE MOTION PASSED. DIDN'T IT COMMISSION, WOULD YOU REMIND ME HER NAME? HER NAME IS FRIEDA. OKAY. SO WE, THE NEXT THING IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT I PUT ON THE AGENDA WITH, UH, CHERRY HILL BOSSA AND ITS PRESENTATION BY STAFF. YEAH. SO WE HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM. I'M SORRY. POINTED INFORMATION. B TWO [B2. Rezoning: C14-2020-0152 - Pearce Gardens Retail; District 2 ] WAS PAUL THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. COMMISSION MEMBERS. THIS IS WENDY RHODES. I'M READY IF [02:25:01] YOU'RE READY. I THINK WE ARE. MOST OF US ARE HERE. OKAY. I'LL BEGIN. UH, THIS IS THE 14 2020 ZERO ONE 52 KNOWN AS PIERCE GARDENS RETAIL. AND IT IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF PIERCE BLAINE AND ROTH ROAD. UH, BOTH OF WHICH ARE CLASSIFIED AS MINOR ARTERIAL ROADWAYS. THE PROPERTY HAS LRC O ZONING SINCE DECEMBER OF 2005. IT PRESENTLY CONTAINS A SERVICE STATION, FOOD SALES AND RETAIL SALES ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THE WEST SIDE IS UNDEVELOPED. THERE ARE, UH, APARTMENTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO THE NORTH AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES TO THE EAST AND ACROSS PIERCE LANE TO THE SOUTH. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING IN THIS RE UH, REMOVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR A 3,200 DAILY VEHICLE TRIP LIMIT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2005. THEY PLAN TO CONSTRUCT SITE PLAN IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL USES AUSTIN DEPARTMENTS THAT AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT STAFF HAS. UH, THEY APPROVED A TA IN 2006 WITH THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. AND MORE RECENTLY APPROVED A WAIVER TO THE REQUIREMENT FOR NEW TA PROVIDED THAT THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR 3,200 DAILY VEHICLE TRIPS IS REMOVED AND THE PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO THE TRAFFIC MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE, THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED INTO CODE. AND WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO ON THE LINE. THANK YOU. SO WE WILL HAVE THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION NEXT, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS, UM, MR. MCLENDON, MR. MCLENDON, ARE YOU AVAILABLE? GOOD EVENING. THIS IS CARL MCLENDON, UH, REPRESENTING THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS GAP PARTNERS FOR THIS PROJECT AT 12 800 PIERCE LINE PIERCE GARDENS RETAIL. UM, IF I COULD JUST HAVE THE, UH, SLIDES BROUGHT UP, ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT TTI WAS CONDUCTED ON THIS SITE. PREVIOUSLY, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR THAT REQUIRES ELIMINATION OF THIS TRIP THRESHOLD OF 3,200 TRIPS, UM, WAS PREVIOUSLY PRIOR TO SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND, UH, CONSISTENTLY WHAT WAS ALWAYS BEEN PROPOSED. THERE THERE'S MUCH NEEDED RETAIL SERVICES IN THIS AREA. UM, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS GROOVE. THE PREVIOUS TWO SITE MOMENT PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED BASED ON THE PREVIOUS TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS CONDUCTED. UM, THEY EXPIRE AFTER FIVE YEARS AND THEN IT'S OVER FOUR YEARS. AND SO WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THOSE, THOSE SITE PLANS EXPIRED. THE APPLICANT IS OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FINISHING OUT WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED PREVIOUSLY TO CONSTRUCT THE ADDITIONAL 10,000 SQUARE FEET, THE 3,200 LIMIT THRESHOLD PREHEAT PROHIBITS, OR, UH, PRECLUDES CONSTRUCTION THAT FINAL 10,000 SQUARE FEET. UH, SECOND SLIDE IT, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED LRC. OH, IT HAS A RESTRICTION 3,200 TRIPS. WE'RE PROPOSING ELIMINATES US TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL 10,000 SQUARE FEET FOR, UH, UH, ADDITIONAL RETAIL THAT'S REQUESTED. THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE EXISTING ZONING, ADDITIONAL USES OR CONDITIONAL USES ARE PROPOSED WITH THIS REQUEST. NEXT SLIDE. THIS SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE SITE AT THE INTERSECTION OF PIERCE AND ROSS ROAD TO A MINOR ARTERIALS IN THE AUSTIN METROPOLITAN PLANS FOR UPGRADING THESE TO FOUR LANES DIVIDED. UH, THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, IS LOCATED THERE. AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S AN EXISTING THREE TO 5,003,000 SQUARE FEET OF DEVELOPMENT THERE CURRENTLY. AND THIS WILL RESULT IN AN ADDITIONAL 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL FOR MIXED USES. THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS SHOWS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE EAST PORTION OF THE SITE, THERE'S EXISTING, THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND RESTAURANT THAT ARE LOCATED THERE NOW ARE PRESENT ON THE EAST SIDE. THERE'S AN UNDEVELOPED PORTION ON THE WEST SIDE, WHICH IS WHERE THE 10,000 SQUARE FEET HAS ALWAYS BEEN PLANNED AND PROPOSED AND REMAINS UNDEVELOPED AT THIS POINT. UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS THE APPROVED, UH, SITE PLAN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BACK IN 2013. IF YOU LOOK ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE, OF THE SITE DRAWING, YOU'LL SEE THE 2000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2013. AS I MENTIONED, [02:30:01] UH, THIS SITE PLAN HAS AS EXPIRED. THE, UM, AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS RECOMMENDED A WAIVER TO ALLOW THIS TO MOVE FORWARD. UM, AND IF YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, THE JUSTIFICATION FOR ELIMINATING IS THIS TIA ELIMINATE LIMITATION. AND THE STRIP RESTRICTION IS THAT CCI HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE ON THIS SITE AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS DEDICATED ALMOST A QUARTER ACRE OF LAND FOR RIGHT AWAY, DEDICATION TO ACCOMMODATE THE FUTURE UPGRADE OF BOTH PIERCE LINE AND ROSS ROAD. UH, IN ADDITION, THEY POSTED ALMOST 14,000 SQUARE, UH, $14,000 FOR SIGNALIZATION AND INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS APPEARS IN LOSS ROAD. UM, AND FINALLY WITH THE WAVE OF THIS BEING REQUESTED AND APPROVED BY AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION, THERE ARE SOME TRANSPORTATION MOBILITY, UH, ENHANCEMENTS THAT WILL BE RECOMMENDED BY AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION AND THE APPLICANT OR OWNERS HAVE AGREED TO INCLUDE AND ACCOMMODATE THOSE ENHANCEMENTS AND PAY FOR THOSE. TYPICALLY THOSE INCLUDE THINGS LIKE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS, UH, SIGNAL LAWS, CROSSWALKS, UH, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE USED TO IMPROVE MOBILITY IN THE AREA. UM, I GUESS IN TIMELY IS IF YOU ALL REMEMBER IN, UH, NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THE CITY OF AUSTIN VOTERS APPROVED, UH, PROPOSITION B FOR TRANSPORTATION, MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS, AND PART OF THAT, UH, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ALMOST, UH, $35 MILLION HAS BEEN EARMARKED FOR UPGRADING ROSS ROAD, UM, TO A FOUR LANE DIVIDED, UH, FACILITY, UH, MONITOR ARTERIAL, BUT ALSO IT WILL INCLUDE BIKEWAYS AND SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE OF ROSS ROAD. THIS IS A THREE AND A HALF MILE SEGMENT OF ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED FROM STATE HIGHWAY 71, UH, TO HANGIE FARM ROAD, SOUTH OF PIERCE LANE. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT THREE AND A HALF MILE STRETCH OF ROADWAY, WHICH WILL BE UPGRADED. AS I SAID, UH, $35 MILLION FROM THE MOBILITY OF PROPOSITION B HAS BEEN APPROVED AND DEDICATED FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS. UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS ALSO INCLUDE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS TO ENCLOSE DRAINAGE ALONG THIS ROADWAY ALSO, UH, INCLUDE INTERSECTION SECTION IMPROVEMENTS, AS WELL AS, UH, LIGHTING ALONG THE ROADWAY. UM, THE PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ON EITHER SIDE OF ROSS ROAD WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AS, UH, HE WAS SURE, WOODY PROBABLY IS AWARE THERE ARE THREE SCHOOLS TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THIS SITE AND THOSE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES WILL ACCOMMODATE AND MAKE A SAFER ROUTE AND MOBILITY FOR STUDENTS IN PEDESTRIANS IN THAT AREA. UM, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER THOSE AT THIS POINT. UM, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS MORE OF THE, UH, THE PEER LANE PORTION OF THAT. UM, FIRST LINE IS KNOWN TO LIKE, TO HAVE MAJOR LIKE, UH, TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, BACKUPS, UH, AND THEN A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THEY LIKE THE DEL VALLEY ISD EVEN HAS LIKE A HOLIDAY FOR F1 WHERE THEY SHUT THE WHOLE DISTRICT DOWN JUST BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUES IN THE AREA. UM, I KNOW ROSS ROAD IS GETTING UPGRADES, BUT, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT DROPPING THE LIMIT OR IS THIS THE RIGHT TIME TO DISCUSS THIS PART OF IT? I WAS LIKE, HEY, AM I DOING THIS RIGHT? UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE, THE, UH, THE PART TO GET RID OF THAT 3,200 LIMIT ON PEARSON LANE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A TWO LANE ROAD, UH, AND, UH, SER SERVICES, UH, SOME COMMUNITIES PLUS THE, UH, THE THREE SCHOOLS IN THAT AREA AND THAT AREA. SO I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. UNDERSTOOD, UM, THE, THE, UM, TRAFFIC GENERATED BY RETAIL USE IS PRIMARILY DRAWN FROM THE EXISTING TRAFFIC STREAM. SO WHEN WE, WHEN THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TYPICALLY DOES AN ESTIMATE OF TRAFFIC GENERATION FOR A PROJECT, UM, IT REPRESENTS TOTAL TRAFFIC THAT COULD BE GENERATED. THOSE ARE DRIVEWAY IN AND DRIVEWAY OUT TURN MOVEMENTS. TYPICALLY THE TRAFFIC BEING GENERATED FOR A RETAIL, ESPECIALLY A SMALL RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, LIKE THIS IS DRAWN FROM THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO IT DOESN'T ESSENTIALLY INCREASE THE TRAFFIC TO THOSE USES BECAUSE IT'S DRAWING [02:35:01] FROM THE EXISTING TRAFFIC STREAM ALONG PIERS AND ROSS ROAD. SO TO SAY THAT THERE'S, UH, AN ADDITIONAL 30 TO 200 OR 250 OR 500 OR A THOUSAND TRIPS MORE IS A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING FROM A, FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, SIMPLY BECAUSE, UM, A LOT OF THOSE, THOSE TRIPS ARE ALREADY ON THE ROADWAYS. IT'S NOT INCREASING THE TRIPS TRIP FOR TRIP, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STOPPING TO GET GAS, THEY'RE STOPPING TO BUY FAST FOOD FOR TAKE OUT, OR THEY'RE STOPPING TO SATISFY TRIP ENDS. AND MOST OF THIS IS SERVING AN AREA OF OUR AREA NEIGHBORHOOD IN RESIDENTS THAT ESSENTIALLY IN DESPERATELY NEED RETAIL SERVICES IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO MAJOR OR TWO MONITOR ARTERIAL ROADWAYS, WHICH WERE INTENDED TO CARRY TRAFFIC. AND SO, YES, THERE ARE SOME EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT, UM, IT SEEMED TO BE, UH, I GUESS IT'S VERY CONSTRAINING RIGHT NOW, BUT AS YOU SEE IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA, I THINK YOU WILL, UH, THE TRAFFIC SITUATION WILL IMPROVE CONSIDERABLY WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S BEING TARGETED AS A STATE. UH, TXDOT IS ALSO IMPROVING STATE HIGHWAY 71 UNIT CHANGE AT THE INTERSECTION OF ROSS ROAD. SO THAT'S GOING TO OPEN UP AND IMPROVE THE MOBILITY SIGNIFICANTLY FOR THAT ROADWAY AND TRAVIS COUNTY, AS WELL AS INCLUDED BOND MONEY IN THEIR PROGRAM, UH, TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA AS WELL. SO THERE'S A CONCERTED EFFORT BY ALL THE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES, UM, IN THE AREA TO IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION IN THIS AREA OVERALL TO MAKE IT A BETTER SITUATION, UH, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF, UH, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT ARE THERE TODAY AND THE APPLICANTS AND THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY HAVE CONTRIBUTED ALL ALONG DURING THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING APPROVAL FOR THEIR PROJECTS. AND THEY'RE CONTINUING TO DO SO TO APPLY IMPROVEMENTS AND, UH, FUNDING FOR MAKING THESE IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A CROSS SECTION OF MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCLUDE PEDESTRIAN, UM, AND OTHER, OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT IMPROVE THE MOBILITY IN THE AREA FOR MORE THAN JUST VEHICLES, BUT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THAT IS UPGRADING SOME MUCH NEEDED, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING ROADWAYS THAT, UH, DESPERATELY DESPERATELY NEED TO BE IMPROVED. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE TARGET DATE FOR STARTING THIS IS 2022 NEXT YEAR. UM, AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION MAY BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON THAT, BUT ANNA MARTIN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION WAS QUOTED IN A, UM, IN AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN ARTICLE ON DECEMBER 23RD, HOW THESE, THESE IMPROVEMENTS IN MOBILITY, UH, ARE BEING EARMARKED FOR THIS PARTICULAR ROADWAY, UM, AS WE, AS WE SPEAK, SO IT'S DEDICATED MONEY. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PROPOSED. IT'S NOT, NOT, UH, NOT AVAILABLE AND NOT PART OF THE, UH, THE PROJECT GOING FORWARD. AND IS THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE LANE, UH, THAT IS FOR ROSS ROAD, UM, PIERCE LANE, UH, AT THIS POINT IS, IS ALSO SCHEDULED TO BE, UH, UPGRADED IT'S IT'S INCLUDED IN THE ASN P PLAN FOR AUSTIN TO BE UPGRADED TO FOUR LANES. UM, BUT, AND THE APPLICANTS HAVE DEDICATED RIGHT AWAY TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. UM, AND I SUSPECT THERE WILL BE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WILL MAKE AS PART OF THE, UM, WAIVER THAT'S BEING GRANTED BY AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION. SO IT VERY WELL MAY INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR PIERCE LANE. IN FACT, I EXPECT IT TO THAT, UM, THAT ARE NOT THERE TODAY. COMMISSIONER KING HERE. UH, ARE WE, ARE WE FINISHED HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT ON THIS AND THIS KASIA? YES. I WAS JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT OUR PROCESS HERE IN CLOSE THE TOPIC CLEAR HEARING. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. IS IT NOW TIME TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COMMISSIONER RAY SECONDS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. THAT LOOKS UNANIMOUS AND WE KIND OF JUMPED TO DISCUSSION, BUT IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER SMITH, IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S LOOKING TO DO THE WORK. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ALONG WITH PEARSON LINE FAIRLY RECENTLY, UH, [02:40:01] TO ACCOMMODATE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. UM, IT SHOWS UP IN THE AERIAL VIEWS. UM, AND IS IT REASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT WHATEVER IS BUILT HERE IS GOING TO BE KIND OF A DESTINATION FOR A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA? THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACES FOR THAT. WE'LL GO TO RIGHT NOW FOR RETAIL. THIS MAY BE A GOOD RETAIL SPOT, AND IT WAS THAT THERE ARE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS, AT LEAST THAT HAVE BEEN DONE TO PERIOD FLYING COMMISSIONER KING AND THEN COMMISSIONER BRAY. THANK YOU. UM, PARDON ME, I'M KIND OF SWATTING BUGS AROUND HERE. THEY'RE BUGS FLYING AROUND I'M OUTSIDE. AND SO BUGS ARE ATTACKING ME, RIGHT? SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I WAS, I, I JUST, MAYBE A STAFF CAN HELP ME CLARIFY SOMETHING FOR ME BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS. AND, UH, WHAT I'M CONFUSED ABOUT IS IT, IS IT CORRECT THAT THE, THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER, 2013 WITH WAS FOR THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY THAT WAS APPROVED WITH THE 3,200 TRIP LIMITATION IN PLACE? IS THAT CORRECT? I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THOSE ARE RELATED TO EACH OTHER. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLE QUESTION FOR STAFFING. NO, IT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF AND THE IN, IN 20, AND THIS IS WENDY ROSE IN 2013, THERE WAS A SITE PLAN FOR A ONE-STORY BUILDING CONTAINING 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL USES. THAT WAS A 2013 SITE PLAN. AND WENDY WAS THAT SITE, WAS THAT SITE PLAN APPROVED IN WA WITH THIS 3,200 A TRIP LIMIT IN PLACE? YES. YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHERE MY CONFUSING IS IT THIS SAME 10,000 SQUARE FEET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND, AND GE JUST BOUGHT FORWARD FEW YEARS HERE, AND NOW WE'RE SAYING, OH, NOW WE NEED TO GET RID OF THAT CAP. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT IF THE CAP WAS VALID BACK THEN, WOW, WHAT WOULD IT NEED TO BE REMOVED TODAY? I'M JUST, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT NOW. THEY WOULD LIKE, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY WOULD WE SAY WE DON'T NEED IT NOW? AND WE NEEDED IT BACK IN THE END. UH, YES. AND, AND IT GETS HARD. OH GOSH. OKAY. OUR TRAFFIC, OUR TRANSPORTATION REVIEW HAS, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT NOW. AND IN, UH, 2005, WHEN THIS WAS ZONED, THE 3,200, UH, DAILY TRIP LIMIT WAS PLACED ON THE PROPERTY. AND THAT WAS, UH, BOOKABLE TO THE SITE PLAN IN 2013. NOW THE, UM, THERE'S ANOTHER SITE PLAN THAT'S IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW FOR AN ADDITIONAL 10,000 SQUARE FEET. AND THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT, UM, WILL, I GUESS, EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF DAILY TRIPS ASSIGNED TO THIS SITE. AND SO OFTEN TRANSPORTATION HAS RECOMMENDED THAT THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR THE TRIP LIMIT BE REMOVED AND THAT THIS CASE, THAT SITE, THE SITE LAND BE SUBJECT TO, UM, TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE IN THE CODE. OH, I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE, THE, UM, THE, UH, THE TRIP LIMIT OF 32,000 WAS, WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE 10,000 SQUARE FEET IN THE 2013 PLAN THAT STILL IS GOING TO BE DONE. BUT THEN AFTER THAT, UH, AS I'M UNDERSTANDING THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, REQUEST A SITE PLAN, THAT'S W WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT TONIGHT, IT'S NOT PART OF THIS CASE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO REMOVE THIS TRIP LIMIT FOR A FUTURE CASE THAT MAY BECOMING A FUTURE SUPPLANT. I I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED STILL THE, THE 3,200 TRIPLE LIMIT WOULD BE EXCEEDED WITH THE SITE PLAN THAT'S IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. SO, OKAY. THAT'S THAT HELPS ME NOW. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A SITE PLAN WE'RE LOOKING AT TODAY. IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN BACKUP TODAY. THE 10,000 SQUARE FEET, THAT'S IN THE PLAN TODAY, THAT'S IN THE SITE PLAN TODAY IS NOT THE ADDITIONAL 10,000 FEET. THAT'S IN THE NEW SITE PLAN THAT THAT'S, THAT'S BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW. OKAY. OKAY. AND AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY WHEN WE, YEAH. YES. YEAH, [02:45:01] I THINK SO. CARL, DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT? WAS THAT PART OF YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION, WHICH IS VERY PERTINENT ESSENTIALLY. UM, THE 10,000 SQUARE FEET WE'RE REQUESTING HAS BEEN FILED AS A SITE PLAN, BUT IT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2013. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE SHOWN. THE USES ARE THE SAME. NOTHING IS DIFFERENT IN THE SITE PLAN THAT'S BEEN RECENTLY FILED IS FILED IN JANUARY, BUT THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED PREVIOUSLY. NOT, NOT ONCE, BUT ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS IN 2007 AND ALSO 2013, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN TRIPS TO THE RATED IS BECAUSE IN 2013, THE TRIBULATION CALCULATIONS THAT THE CITY USES AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION ARE BASED UPON THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS, UH, BASED ON DATA, THEY COLLECT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND WHAT HAS CHANGED IS THAT THE STUDIES THAT THEY HAVE MODELED OR, OR COLLECTED INFORMATION FROM HAVE CHANGED THROUGH THE YEARS. AND SO THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT, UH, EDITION OF THAT INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION, ENGINEERS MANUAL, AND IT SHOWS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN TRUST GENERATE, AND IT EXCEEDS THE 3,200 TRIPS. UM, NOW IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT TRAFFIC IN THESE, THESE GO UP AND DOWN, UH, THROUGH THE YEARS, YOU CAN LOOK AT DIFFERENT ADDITIONS OF THE ITE MANUAL AND SEE THAT SOME, SOME USES GO UP AND TRUCKS AND SOME USES GO DOWN AND WE VERY WELL COULD SEE CHANGES AS A RESULT OF CHANGES IN ECONOMICS AS A RESULT OF THE PANDEMIC AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE ECONOMICALLY. SO THAT VERY WELL COULD SEE THE NEXT EDITION AS THE ITE MANUAL ACTUALLY SAW A REDUCTION BELOW THE 3,200 TRIPS. SO THESE, THESE ARE TECHNICAL THINGS, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION FELT COMFORTABLE RECOMMENDING THE ELIMINATION OF THE RESTRICTION. AND ALSO THEY KNEW THAT, THAT THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY. AND, UH, MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE INCLUDED AS A PART OF THIS SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT HAS BEEN FILED AND DOES INCLUDE THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AS IT EXISTS AND IS SHOWN ON THE 2013 SITE PLAN. THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE INCREASING OR, UM, PUTTING, PUTTING MORE DEVELOPMENT THAN WE HAD PREVIOUSLY. THAT'S NOT THE CASE AT ALL. SO IT'S INTENDED TO BE DIFFERENT. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF. GO AHEAD. NO, THAT'S FINE. YEAH. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. IT'S HARD ON THESE LONG DISTANCE VIRTUAL MEETINGS ANYWAY. SO NOW I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE SAME TEAM THAT YOU'RE NOT ADDING MORE. IT'S THE SAME ONE, BUT I DID. IT'S CLEAR FOR ME NOW. I UNDERSTAND. AND I, IN MY LAST QUESTION HERE IS, IS, IS R Y S TO STAFF. WHY WOULDN'T WE BE ADDRESSING THIS TRIPLE LIMITATION ISSUE WITH A NEW SITE PLAN THAT ARE WE GOING TO SEE THAT NEW SITE PLAN AND HAVE TO RE, OR IS THAT ALL ADMINISTRATIVE NOW? UH, THEN THE NEW SITE PLAN THAT'S BEEN PROCESSED IS AT THE 2025 PLAN. I BELIEVE IT, IT IS ADMINISTRATIVE. OKAY. OKAY. AND SO YOUR IC WHERE, SO IT WOULD NOT COME BACK TO, SO YOU'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND. WELL, THAT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT TO ME. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? OH, GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER WOODY, AND THEN COMMISSIONER BRAY. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER BRAY. I THINK YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP FIRST, ACTUALLY. YEAH, SURE. UM, WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS OVER DISCUSSION MORE QUESTIONS, I GUESS, BUT, UM, TO ME, THIS INCIDENT, IT SAYS FOR LIKE WHY TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ARE KIND OF LIKE REALLY BAD SOMETIMES LIKE THE FACT THAT WE RELY ON THEM TO DETERMINE LIKE HOW MUCH TRAFFIC ACTUALLY IS CHANGING, BECAUSE LOOKING AT THIS AREA, THERE'S A TON OF RESIDENTIAL AND VERY LITTLE COMMERCIAL. SO I ACTUALLY DID I SEE THIS AS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE GIVING PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPORTUNITIES TO SHOP MORE LOCALLY AND NOT HAVE TO DRIVE OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IN THAT, IN THAT PARTICULAR CONTEXT, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE DECREASING TRAFFIC, UH, OVERALL TRAFFIC. AND IT'S VERY LEAST, IT'S LIKE GIVING PEOPLE OPTIONS THAT DON'T INVOLVE HAVING TO DRIVE OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET BASIC AMENITIES. UM, SO I THINK THAT'S LIKE SOMETIMES WE CAN GET THAT OUT OF SOME CONTEXT IS PROBLEMATIC AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TEENAGERS, IT'S ABOUT THE OVERALL CONTEXT ABOUT A TIA AND NOT JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE PEOPLE NEED AMENITIES. UM, AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A VERY APPROPRIATE THING TO DO IN THIS SITUATION. JUST, UH, JUST ANOTHER SMALL COMMENT ON THE AREAS, NOT RELATIVE [02:50:01] THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT A LOT OF THE ROAD CONNECTIONS ARE REALLY DUMB. UH, I WISH THIS AREA WAS BETTER DESIGNED IN TERMS OF THERE'S A LOT OF LIKE STREETS THAT YOU KIND OF END WITH NO WAYS FOR PEDESTRIANS TO GET THROUGH TO A HUNDRED FEET OVER WITHOUT GOING AROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF FEET. SO, UH, I, I HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE WE CAN DESIGN THESE, LIKE, THERE'S A LOT OF STRICT CONNECTIONS THERE THAT COULD BE THAT THE PEDESTRIANS ARE LIMITED HERE, UM, WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T NEED TO BE. BUT I MEAN, AND I WOULD ALSO JUST POINT OUT THAT MAYBE 2013, I WAS LOOKING AT, THERE'S LITERALLY AN APARTMENT COMPLEX LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEING DEVELOPED JUST NORTH OF IT. UM, AND THEN JUST WITHIN THAT, THERE'S ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS JUST BUILT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE STREET VIEW, UH, IT DOESN'T EXIST FOR THE 2013 STREET VIEW THAT DOES EXIST NOW. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NEW RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA SINCE THIS WAS, UH, LAST LOOKED AT INTEREST WITH TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. SO THAT'S MY GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER, I BELIEVE IT WAS WOODY AND THEN DINKLER OKAY. YES. UH, EXACTLY WHAT THE, UH, THE INCREASE OF THE POPULATION IN THAT AREA. UM, I KNOW, I KNOW PIERCE LANE DOES HAVE SIDEWALKS NOW, BUT TO ME, A WIDER ROAD IS KIND OF NEEDED THERE. UH, AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHERS OTHER ROADS, UH, THERE'S ROSS, UH, THE SECOND PART OF ROSS, THERE'S THE ROSS, WHAT THE SCORES ON IT, THEN THERE'S THE OTHER ROSS THAT GOES TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, FURTHER EAST. UM, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S LIKE, THERE'S ALL THESE BOTTLENECKS IN THIS AREA. UM, AND I AGREE WE DO NEED DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA. UH, AND I THINK THIS IS GOOD TO, TO TRY, YOU KNOW, I, I LIKE, LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, HOW, UH, THERE WILL BE MORE FOOT TRAFFIC TO THAT, UH, THAT SPOT. BUT I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE CARS RUNNING AROUND IN THAT AREA, I DO SEE BOTTLENECKS, UH, WITHOUT SOME KIND OF LIMIT OR INCREASE. I THINK, I THINK WHAT'S NEEDED IS, UH, IF I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT, UH, FORT ROSS ROAD, ARE THERE ANY ROAD LIKE DRIVING IMPROVEMENTS SCHEDULED FOR, UH, PIERCE LANE? SORRY, PURPOSELY IT'S UH, THIS IS WENDY RHODES. I'LL ASK IF ATD IS ON THE LINE AND COULD ASSIST WITH THAT QUESTION. YES. THIS IS CURTIS BEATTY WITH AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION. UM, THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON PIERCE LANE ITSELF. UM, I AM NOT SURE THE, KIND OF THE OVERALL RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD TO THE FOUR LANE WHEN THAT IS GOING TO OCCUR. UM, I DO ALSO RECALL THAT WHEN THE CIRCUIT OF AMERICAS DID THEIR ZONING, THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS AT INTERSECTIONS AND LOCATIONS SUCH AS RIGHT TURN LANES AND THINGS BEING ADDED IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, ALONG PEERS, EL ROY, AND IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. ALSO, THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT AREAS AND DESIGNING A PROJECT TO WIDEN WHAT ROSS ROAD BETWEEN PIERCE AND ELLROY AT THIS TIME, THAT'S TRAVIS COUNTY, UM, AND THERE'S DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL EXTEND ROSS ROAD SOUTH OF ELLROY PARRIS LANE ITSELF. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A, UH, THE TIMING OF SOMETHING MORE, UH, OF A BROADER RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD TO FOUR LANES. IT IS PLANNED, BUT NOT ASSIGNED TO PRO AS AN ACTUAL PROJECT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. COMMISSION, SORRY THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS ON PIERCE LANE, IF I'M REMEMBERING RIGHT, WERE BETWEEN CALLUM AND WOLF AND IT WAS FOUR LANE, FOUR LANES, AND I THOUGHT THERE WAS DIVISION. I THOUGHT THEY'D ALREADY LET THE CONTRACT ON THAT. HAVE THEY JUST DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. I AM NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A COUNTY PROJECT AND I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK. OKAY. OKAY. BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE FAIRLY CLOSE, UH, COMMISSIONER WOODY. UM, THIS HAS COME UP IN SOME OTHER CASES BEFORE, UM, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, IF I COULD PLEASE, UM, MR. MCLENDON, WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING FOR THAT 10,000 SQUARE FEET? I'M CURIOUS. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CONFIRMATION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER. AND SO, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT USES A SUSPECT. IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING NEIGHBORHOOD ORIENTED. IT'S GOING TO BE A, EITHER PERSONAL SERVICES OR RETAIL USE OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, UH, COMPLIANT WITH THE ZONING CATEGORY FOR LIMITED RETAIL, WHICH IS WHAT THE PROPERTY IS ZONED. SO, UM, THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANY TYPE OF RETAIL, PERSONAL SERVICES, UM, POTENTIALLY A SMALL TAKEOUT [02:55:01] RESTAURANT. THOSE ARE THE SORTS OF USES THAT WOULD, WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE ZONING CATEGORY. UM, THAT WOULD FIT IN THAT, IN THAT 10,000 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT, WOULD IT INCLUDE A CONVENIENCE MARKET OR NOT? THERE WAS ALREADY, THERE WAS ALREADY A CONVENIENCE STORE OF AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A 2000 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE. SO IT WOULD NOT BE A CONVENIENCE STORE. OKAY. THANKS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KING AND GET YOUR, JUST ONE REALLY QUICK QUESTION HERE? UH, AND, UH, AS I CALL, I THINK STEP WHEN YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED, OR MAYBE, UH, TRANSPORTATION STAFF MENTIONED THAT, UM, THAT, UH, MITIGATE, UH, I GUESS THE MITIGATION REQUIRED TODAY WOULD BE MY INTERPRETATION OF WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER IS THAT THE MITIGATE TRAFFIC MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS TODAY WOULD BE BETTER OR B THEN, THEN, THEN BACK IN 2013 WHEN THIS LIMIT WAS ON, WAS PLACED ON IT, IS THAT, DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECT CORRECTLY, WENDY, DID THAT MAKE SENSE? OH, I'M SORRY. NO, I, I, OR TRANSPORTATION STAFF. THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD THE PREVIOUS COMMENT THAT I HEARD THAT THE MITIGATION REQUIRED FOR TRAFFIC IMPACT HERE. UH, NOW UNDER THIS, UH, THIS NEW SITE PLAN, THIS IS GOING TO BE, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE, MORE MITIGATION REQUIRED THEN COMPARED TO BACK IN 2013, WHEN THAT 3,200 TRIP LIMIT WAS PLACED ON IT. YES. GO AHEAD. THIS IS CURTIS AT AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION. I DON'T THINK IT NECESSARILY WOULD BE MORE GETTING MORE OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS IS THE MITIGATIONS ITSELF WILL HAVE CHANGED. OKAY. AND, AND, UH, IN, IN, IN THE, UH, WOULD THIS PROJECT BE FALL UNDER THE STREET IMPACT FEE? THE NEW STREET IMPACT THE ORDINANCE? IF A BUILDING CODE IS NOT PULLED BEFORE JUNE, 2022? YES. IF A BUILDING PERMIT WAS NOT PULLED, I I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT THE STREET IMPACT FEE IS IN EFFECT AS OF NOW THOSE BE POSTPONED UNTIL JUNE, 2022, IF A BUILDING PERMIT HAS BEEN PULLED BEFORE, THEN THAT FEE WOULD NOT, IF I'M REMEMBER CORRECTLY, UM, THE BE WILL NOT BE SELECTED. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND. UH, OTHERWISE AFTER, YOU KNOW, I SEE, SO THIS ONE, I JUST W WHERE I'M GOING FOR HERE IS I JUST WANT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE, THE MITIGATION THAT WE NEED OUT OF THAT'S REQUIRED OUT OF THIS. AND THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE ARE THAT'S, IS THAT THE CASE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE MOST TRAFFIC MITIGATION WE CAN GET OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT WE ARE GETTING THE MOST NEEDED IN YES, IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED BY DOING THIS IN A NEW TIA, WOULDN'T HAVE CHANGED THAT WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE MITIGATION NEED TO BE IN THIS AREA. UH, AND SO LIFTING THAT TRIP CRAP IS NOT GOING TO HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE VALUE OF THE MITIGATION. IT WILL HAVE MORE OF A CHANGE IN WHAT THE MITIGATION IS FROM 2013. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. SMITH, UM, LET ME MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT RECOMMENDATION, TO REDUCE THE CONDITION WE'RE LIMITED TO CONDITIONALS ON HIM. I CAN ADD BY A KOSTA, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION, ALL THOSE OPPOSED ABSTENTIONS. NO. OKAY. DID YOU GET, DID WE GET THAT? SO THAT WAS OKAY. UM, OKAY, SO THAT, YES, GO AHEAD. BUT YOU'RE STILL WRITING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYONE. ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS C1 [03:00:01] PRESENTATION FROM STAFF? I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE CAT. MR. BOMBER IS STILL HERE. CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDREW WERE, UM, WANTING TEMPORARILY FOR MR. BOMBER TO COME ON THE LINE. OKAY. OKAY. WE HAVE [C. PRESENTATION ] THE PRESENTATION READY. UM, MR. PALMER FIELD SELECT STAR SIG PROCEEDS TO YOUR PRESENTATION. HI, THIS IS BACK BOMBER, PRESS EIGHT. TO YOUR PRESENTATION, PLEASE. MR. BAMA. WE'RE READY FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. OKAY, GREAT. HI EVERYBODY. SORRY, I CAN'T SEE IT TONIGHT. UH, THIS IS I'M ZACH BAUER. I'M THE CLIMATE PROGRAM MANAGER HERE IN THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY. AND THANKS FOR, UH, THANKS FOR LISTENING TONIGHT. UM, I'M GOING TO SORT OF TELL THE STORY OF THE CREATION OF THE SORT OF NEW COMMUNITY-WIDE FOCUS PLAN, UH, TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE. IT'S CALLED THE AUSTIN CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN. UM, AND I HAVE GIVEN THIS PRESENTATION, THIS HAS BEEN AN EFFORT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER LIKE OVER A YEAR NOW. AND I GAVE THE PRESENTATION OF THIS, UH, OF THE DRAFT PLAN TO 24 BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, IN THE FALL. AND FOR SOME REASON I MISSED YOU GUYS. SO, UM, I WAS IN A MEETING WITH, UH, WITH NADIA, UH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND SHE MENTIONED, UH, THIS GROUP. AND SO, UM, HERE I AM TO SORT OF TELL THE STORY OF THE PLAN AND, UM, UH, GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND INPUT AND JUST KIND OF GET EVERYBODY, UM, ON THE LOOP ON THIS. SO, UH, SLIDE TWO, AND THIS IS A INTERESTING, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS IS A LONG PRESENTATION WITH A LOT OF DETAIL. UM, AND THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS DRAFT PLAN IS A HUNDRED PAGES LONG. LIKE THIS IS A COMPLEX THING. UM, I'M GOING TO TRY TO GO OVER IT LIKE SORT OF QUICKLY AND BRIEFLY, UM, UH, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. CAUSE I, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN ALREADY MEETING FOR THREE HOURS AND YEAH. AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. SO, UM, MY TEAM AND I, AND THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY, UM, HAVE BEEN UPDATING THE COMMUNITY CLIMATE PLAN, UM, SINCE THE FALL OF 2019, UH, THE DRAFT CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, THE NEW VERSION OF THE PLAN HAS BEEN, UH, PUBLIC SINCE SEPTEMBER OF 2020. UM, AND WE ARE AIMING TO BRING THIS, UH, PLAN TO COUNCIL IN 2021 SOMETIME. UH, WE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSING COMMENTS AND REVISING AND MAKING A NEW, AND WE'RE JUST SORT OF WAITING FOR THE TIMING TO BE RIGHT, TO BRING THIS, BRING THIS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION. SO, UH, TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING FOR YOU AND TONIGHT, OR FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, UM, AT ANY TIME, UH, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR COMMENTS, AREAS OF INTEREST, PLEDGES OF SUPPORT FOR THIS PLAN, UH, ET CETERA. OKAY. SLIDE THREE. AND WHEN I SAY SLIDE THREE, I JUST ASSUMED THAT EVERY TIME I SAY NEXT SLIDE, I'LL TRY TO SAY THE NUMBER AND YOU'LL BE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. YES. YES. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S WORKING THAT WAY. GREAT. OKAY. OKAY. SO JUST SOME CONTEXT FOR WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH THE ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND CREATING PLANS AND CITY ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE. SO CENTERING EQUITY AND RACIAL EQUITY IS NOW SORT OF BECOMING, UH, REQUIRED FOR CLIMATE ACTION, NOT ONLY IN OUR CITY, BUT IN OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND WITH THE NEW BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, UM, THE ISSUES OF [03:05:01] EQUITY AND CLIMATE ACTION ARE VERY MUCH SORT OF LIKE MERGING AND INTERSECTING, WHICH IS A GOOD THING. THE NEXT THING IS THAT THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET IN THIS PLAN. THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET ANSWER TO CLIMATE CHANGE. UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS PLAN THAT ADDRESS LOTS OF DIFFERENT TOPICS. UM, BUT WE USE FOSSIL FUELS IN ALL AREAS OF OUR LIVES LIKE IT OR NOT. AND AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME, ALL OF THESE THINGS NEED TO GET DONE. UH, THE NEXT THING TO NOTE THOUGH, IS THAT, UH, THE CLIMATE IS ALREADY CHANGING, RIGHT? WE JUST EXPERIENCED THE WINTER STORM, UM, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, AN EFFECT OF AN EFFECT OF CLIMATE CHANGE. WE ARE HEADED TOWARD THE DROUGHT. I'M SURE EXTREME HEAT IS COMING THE SUMMER. UH, THE CLIMATE IS ALREADY CHANGING. AND IF WE DO NOT, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY NATIONALLY AND GLOBALLY MAKE MASSIVE CHANGES, UH, TO REDUCE EMISSIONS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET REALLY, REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT ADAPTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE OR, YOU KNOW, WE ARE JUST LINING OURSELVES UP FOR, YOU KNOW, LOTS OF SUFFERING. SO, UM, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE LIKE, WE'RE KIND OF BEYOND THIS IS VERY SERIOUS. UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING IS THAT, UH, THERE ARE VERY STRONG FORCES WORKING AGAINST REDUCING EMISSIONS. LIKE AS WE HAVE SEEN JUST IN THE PAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS, THE FOSSIL FUEL COMPANIES ARE NOW GETTING VERY SERIOUS ABOUT BLOCKING REGULATIONS, BLOCKING CHANGE, UM, SORT OF STANDING IN THE WAY OF THIS HAPPENING. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, A BIG JOB TO DO HERE, UH, TO TRY TO TRY TO ADDRESS THIS MASSIVE PROBLEM. OKAY. SLIDE FOUR. SO THE ORIGINAL COMMUNITY CLIMATE PLAN WAS CREATED IN 2014. 15 WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 2015. THIS IS THE COVER. IT WAS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME ADOPTED THE TARGET OF NET ZERO COMMUNITY-WIDE EMISSIONS BY 2050. SO THAT'S ENVISIONING USING NO FOSSIL FUELS IN OUR CITY, UH, BY 2050. AND, UH, THIS, THIS PLAN SORT OF SET US OFF IN THAT DIRECTION, YOU KNOW, AND OUR CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN ACTIVE ON SETTING TARGETS, ASPIRATIONAL GOALS ON CLIMATE CHANGE ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2007. SO THIS WAS THE FIRST ITERATION WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL. UH, AND ESSENTIALLY WE GOT THE GUIDANCE TO UPDATE THIS PLAN IN FIVE YEARS. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS WHOLE INITIATIVE HAS BEEN ABOUT IS TAKING THIS NEW PLAN, GOING BACK TO STAKEHOLDERS, SORT OF THINKING ABOUT HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND THEN COMING UP WITH A NEW PLAN BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW NOW, NEXT SLIDE SLIDE FIVE. SO A VERY UNIQUE THING ABOUT HOW THIS PLAN WAS CREATED IS THAT WE REALLY TRY TO USE A COMMUNITY OWNERSHIP APPROACH WITH THIS PLAN. SO THERE WERE 20 PLUS CITY STAFF WORKING ON THIS PLAN, BUT THERE WERE OVER 120 COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME TO SERVE ON ADVISORY GROUPS, SERVICE STEERING COMMITTEE. UH, WE DID COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF MEETINGS, THOUSANDS OF HOURS WITH ALL THESE STAKEHOLDERS, ESSENTIALLY TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH CITY STAFF AND MAKE THE BIG DECISIONS AND GUIDE THE DIRECTION FOR WHAT ACTUALLY GOES IN THIS PLAN LIKE SIX. UM, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT PARTICIPATED THE FOLKS ON THE SCREEN HERE ALL HAVE GIVEN AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO THIS EFFORT. UH, THESE FOLKS WERE ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE. STEERING COMMITTEE WAS SORT OF MY BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THIS PROCESS. SO THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE MAKING DECISIONS AND GUIDING DIRECTION FOR EVERY PIECE OF THIS PLAN. UM, UH, AND THEY ESSENTIALLY MET EVERY OTHER WEEK FOR THE ENTIRETY OF 2020. UM, WE JUST HAD A MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. UH, SO THESE FOLKS HAVE REALLY BEEN ESSENTIAL TO CREATING THIS PLAN. SO THERE'S A, IT'S A BIG THING TO THEM. NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO THE QUESTION OF EQUITY AND CLIMATE AND HOW THOSE THINGS FIT TOGETHER, UH, WAS SORT OF THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WE STARTED TO ASK. SO OBVIOUSLY OUR CITY CITY HAS A LONG HISTORY OF RACIAL INEQUITY GOING BACK TO THE 1928 MASTER PLAN BEFORE THAT, AFTER THAT, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICES, GENTRIFICATION ISSUES, UM, INCOME DISPARITIES, UH, NOW COVID, UM, I MEAN, ANY, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY WOULD WE CENTER EQUITY IN A PLAN ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE? JUST THE, THE MORE ANSWERS FOR, HOW COULD YOU NOT SEND HER EQUITY IN A PLAN LIKE THIS WHEN YOU REALLY START THINKING ABOUT ALL THE INEQUITIES THAT, UM, THAT EXIST IN OUR CITY. SO THE NEXT SLIDE SLIDE EIGHT. SO WE ARE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE ARE, WE ARE CHANGING THE EARTH'S [03:10:01] CLIMATE AND, YOU KNOW, SCIENTISTS HAVE BEEN WARNING FOR YEARS AND THEY'RE WARNING EVEN MORE DANGEROUSLY NOW, UH, THAT WARNING WARMING OVER TWO DEGREES CENTIGRADE SORT OF AVERAGE ACROSS THE GROW CLO COULD BE CATASTROPHIC TO LIFE ON EARTH. AS WE KNOW IT, UH, WHAT THE CHART IS TRYING TO COMMUNICATE HERE. THIS IS GLOBAL EMISSIONS OF ALL OF THE COUNTRIES, EVERYBODY ACROSS THE WORLD, ALL WHAT THE EMISSIONS ARE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BLACK LINE IS JUST GOING UP AND UP AND UP AND GLOBAL EMISSIONS HAVE NOT STARTED TO COME DOWN. SO ALL THE ACTIONS AND OFTEN ALL THE ACTION THAT'S HAPPENING GLOBALLY, ALL THE, ALL THE TALKS THAT'S HAPPENING HAS NOT BEEN LEADING TO GLOBAL EMISSIONS ACTUALLY COMING DOWN. SO ANY CLIMATE KIND OF CHANGE THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT EVEN NEARING A POINT YET OF LIKE STOPPING THE CLIMATE CHANGE FROM HAPPENING. WHAT THE DIFFERENT COLORS HERE ARE MEANT TO DENOTE IS THAT THE AMOUNT OF GLOBAL ACTION THAT WE NEED TO BE TAKEN TO STAY UNDER TWO DEGREES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU MOVE FURTHER AND FURTHER, WITHOUT STARTING TO PULL THE EMISSIONS DOWN THE LINE TO DROP EMISSIONS TO ZERO, JUST BECOMES STEEPER AND STEEPER AND STEEPER. SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE STARTING TO FACE A POINT NOW WHERE IF WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY GET ANYWHERE CLOSE, TRYING TO AVOID TWO DEGREES, C WARMING EMISSIONS, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BASICALLY JUST DROPPED PRECIPITOUSLY PRECIPITOUSLY OF A CLIFF, LIKE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, SLIDE NINE. UM, SO ANOTHER REALLY IMPORTANT CONNECTION, UH, WITH EQUITY AND WE WORKS WITH CLIMATE SCIENTISTS TO UNDERSTAND HOW A CHANGING CLIMATE IS GOING TO AFFECT, UH, TEXAS AND HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT AUSTIN. AND WE KNOW THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS GOING IT ALREADY MEANS, AND IT'S GOING TO MEAN MORE, UM, HIGHER TEMPERATURES, MORE DROUGHT, INCREASED RISK OF WILDFIRE, MORE INTENSE RAIN FLOODING. AND THEN I THINK JUST, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THIS WINTER STORM, JUST GENERALLY MORE UNCERTAIN WALK OR UNCERTAIN WEATHER PATTERNS AND MORE INTENSE WEATHER PATTERNS, WHATEVER THEY MAY BE. AND THE REAL CONNECTION HERE WITH WHY THIS MATTERS FOR EQUITY IS THAT LOW-INCOME COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN OUR CITY ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECTED BY THESE THINGS. IF YOU HAVE LOTS OF RESOURCES, YOU CAN CRANK UP THE AIR CONDITIONING. YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T LIVE NEAR A CREEK AND YOU LIVE UP ON A HILL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT FOR ME, BUT FOR A LOT OF MEMBERS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT CAN'T GET AWAY FROM THESE THINGS AND CAN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM THESE THINGS. UM, A CHANGING CLIMATE IS JUST GOING TO HAVE A DISPROPORTIONATE EFFECT ON THEM. SO NEXT SLIDE, 10. SO EARLY IN THIS PROCESS, WE, UM, MY OFFICE PAID AN OUTSIDE COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, A GUY NAMED, UH, DR. TONY WARD. AND WE HELD A FULL DAY SORT OF LIKE EQUITY, CLIMATE CHANGE WORKSHOP FOR ALL 140 PARTICIPANTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS PLANNING PROCESS WITH US. AND THE IDEA WAS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO REALLY TRY TO UNPACK EQUITY, RACIAL EQUITY AND CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE INTERSECTION IN OUR CITY, WE NEED TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANT AND WHAT THAT MEANT LIKE UPFRONT IN REAL TERMS. SO WHAT WE CAME THROUGH CAME TO, UM, THROUGH THOSE WORKSHOPS AND THEN THROUGH A LOT OF FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATIONS WAS THESE VALUES IN THE CENTER. AND THESE VALUES ARE THINGS THAT, UH, OR IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ARE REALLY THE INTERSECTION OF THESE TWO TOPICS. AND THAT IF WE CAN ACTUALLY, UH, FOR EXPRESSLY FIRST FOR LOW-INCOME COMMUNITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, UH, FOCUS ON HEALTH FOR EVERYONE, AFFORDABILITY, ACCESSIBILITY, CULTURAL PRESERVATION, COMMUNITY CAPACITY, JUST TRANSITIONING AND ACCOUNTABILITY. IF WE CAN DELIVER THOSE THINGS AND WHILE ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE AND EQUITY, WE WILL HAVE, WE WILL HAVE REACHED THE SOLUTION. SO THESE, UH, THESE SEVEN THEMES WERE ACTUALLY TURNED INTO AN EQUITY TOOL THAT WE USE TO ANALYZE EVERY SINGLE PROPOSED STRATEGY THAT WENT INTO THIS PLANNING PROCESS. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF PROCESS TO LIKE VERY DISTINCTLY ASK LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, IS THIS GOING TO BE EQUITABLE OR NOT IN OUR COMMUNITY? WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING? AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS JUST THAT WE ENDED UP WITH WAS THAT WE ARE NOT PROACTIVELY ADDRESSING EQUITY. WE WOULD JUST BE PERPETUATING INJUSTICE BECAUSE THE BUSINESS AS USUAL, UM, RIGHT NOW IS, UM, IS UNFAIR OUTCOMES. SO SLIDE 11. SO SLIDE 11 IS NOW GETTING INTO WHERE THE EMISSIONS COMING FROM, RIGHT? SO CLIMATE CHANGE IT'S HAPPENING. IT COMES FROM BURNING. THE FOSSIL FUELS, FOSSIL FUELS ARE COAL OIL AND NATURAL GAS. UH, WE USE THOSE THINGS TO, UH, FOR ELECTRICITY AND THE HEAT [03:15:01] AND COOL BUILDINGS, WHICH, UH, IS THE LARGEST SECTOR OF EMISSIONS. SECOND LARGEST SECTOR OF EMISSIONS IS TRANSPORTATION. SO THAT'S ALL OF THE GASOLINE AND DIESEL THAT'S BEING USED THROUGH ALL OF THE CARS AND TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING AROUND OUR CITY ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. UM, AND THEN THERE ARE THESE SMALL SECTORS OF SECTORS OF EMISSIONS, INDUSTRIAL REFRIGERANT, SOME WASTE. SO WHEN YOU STACK THOSE BARS UP ON THE LEFT, YOU GET THIS COMMUNITY CARBON FOOTPRINT ON THE RIGHT, WHICH THE RIGHT IS, UM, EMISSIONS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS, AND THEN PROJECTED OUT INTO THE FUTURE WITH SORT OF CURRENT PLANS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, COMMUNITY-WIDE EMISSIONS HAVE STARTED TO COME DOWN IN AUSTIN, UH, AND IT'S PROJECTED. THEY WILL SORT OF CONTINUE TO COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT SORT OF WITHOUT MORE ACTION, WITHOUT MORE PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYWHERE NEAR ZERO, OBVIOUSLY JUST ON THEIR OWN. ANOTHER REALLY IMPORTANT THING WITH THIS IS THAT TRANSPORTATION IS BASICALLY NOW, UH, THE LARGEST SECTOR OF EMISSIONS. UM, SO THERE IS A LOT OF FOCUS IN THIS PLAN ON TRYING TO ADDRESS TRANSPORTATION EMISSIONS AND THE OTHER REALLY IMPORTANT TAKEAWAY FROM THIS IS THAT THE INITIAL GOAL THAT THE CURRENT COUNCIL ADOPTED TARGET IS NET ZERO EMISSIONS BY 2050, THE NEW PROPOSED GOAL, WHICH IS, WAS APPROVED BY THE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR THIS PLAN IS THAT WE CHANGE THE, THE GOAL TO BE NET ZERO EMISSIONS BY 2040. SO ESSENTIALLY MOVE UP THE INTENSITY AND THE STEEPNESS OF REDUCTION BASICALLY 10 YEARS, UM, JUST TO REFLECT HOW IMPORTANT IT REALLY IS TO REDUCE EMISSIONS AND REALLY LIKE HIGHLIGHT THE, UM, OPPORTUNITY AND THE NECESSITY THAT WE DO THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO NEXT SLIDE. SO SLIDE, IT HAS A CIRCLE ON IT. UM, SO ANOTHER SORT OF COMPLICATED THING ABOUT MAKING A PLAN LIKE THIS IS, THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER CITY OF CITY OF AUSTIN PLANS THAT ADDRESS ISSUES RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION BUILDINGS, NATURAL SYSTEMS OUT, YOU KNOW, UH, WASTE ISSUES. THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER CITY PLANS. AND SO A CHALLENGE WITH CREATING A PLAN LIKE THIS IS, WE JUST CAN'T WALK ALL OVER THESE OTHER PLANS. LIKE WE HAVE TO SORT OF FIT A NEW PLAN TO ADDRESS CLIMATE BUILDING OFF OF THE SUCCESSES OF THESE PLANS AND BUILDING OFF OF WHAT'S IN THESE OTHER PLANS. AND THEN KIND OF TRY TO FIND THE SPACE THAT BITS IN BETWEEN THESE AND ISN'T CURRENTLY ADDRESSED IN EXISTING PLANS. SO THERE ARE FIVE SECTIONS IN THIS BRAND NEW PLAN, SUSTAINABLE BUILDINGS, TWO SECTIONS ON TRANSPORTATION, TRANSPORTATION, LAND USE, AND TRANSPORTATION ELECTRIFICATION. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THOSE IN A LOT MORE DETAIL, UH, NATIONAL SYSTEMS AND THEN CONSUMPTION. AND THAT'S WHAT SYSTEMS AND CONSUMPTION ARE BRAND NEW SORT OF SECTIONS FOR THIS TYPE OF PLAN. OKAY. OKAY. SO SLIDE 13, UH, AND NOW 14. SO, UM, I'M GOING TO KNOW NOW SORT OF GO THROUGH WHAT ARE THE PROPOSED SORT OF GOLDEN STRATEGIES IN THE PLAN, AND REALLY TRY TO JUST REALLY HIGHLIGHT THE ONES THAT ARE FOCUSED ON TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE. SO WHAT IS THIS PLAN AND WHAT IT ISN'T? UM, THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN IS A PRODUCT OF TRUSTED CO-CREATION WITH HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS. LIKE I SAID, UM, IT'S MEANT TO BE AGGRESSIVE, BUT IT'S ALSO MEANT TO BE REALISTIC, RIGHT? LIKE WE ARE NOT PROPOSING THINGS THAT WE THINK ARE LIKE IMPOSSIBLE OR WILDLY UNREALISTIC. SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK DONE TO SORT OF GROUNDTRUTH EVERY SINGLE SORT OF ASSUMPTION AND EVERY SINGLE SORT OF LIKE QUESTION OF REALITY WITH THIS PLAN. SO WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY PUSH FORTH AS MUCH AS WE CAN AS FAST AS WE CAN, BUT REALIZE THAT THERE ARE LIMITS TO REALITY WITH SOME CHANGES AND HOW, HOW FAST THINGS CAN CHANGE. UM, IT'S REALLY MEANT TO BE A VISIONARY ATTEMPT AT HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS? AND IT'S A HIGH LEVEL ROADMAP, RIGHT? WE HAVE 10 YEAR SECTOR GOALS AND WE HAVE FIVE-YEAR STRATEGIES. AND WE KNOW THAT THIS SORT OF PLAN IS GOING TO BE UPDATED. AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE UPDATED AGAIN IN FIVE YEARS. UM, SO THE IDEA HERE IS TO SET ASPIRATIONAL TARGETS AND SORT OF SET DIRECTION, UM, AND GET IT MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WHAT THIS PLAN IS NOT, IT IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE PLAN OF EVERYTHING NEEDED TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE. THINGS NEED TO HAPPEN AT THE STATE LEVEL. THINGS NEED TO HAPPEN WITH BUSINESSES. THINGS NEED TO HAPPEN AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. LIKE THIS IS NOT EVERYTHING. UM, THIS PLAN ALSO DOES NOT HAVE EXACT COST AND BENEFITS DETAILED OUT FOR EVERY SINGLE THING IN THIS PLAN. UM, THE FOCUS OF THIS PLAN IS WHAT NEEDS TO GET DONE IF WE WANT TO REALLY MAXIMIZE EQUITY WHILE ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE. UM, AND THEN THE FINAL THING IS THAT THIS IS NOT AN [03:20:01] ORDINANCE OKAY, BY, YOU KNOW, BY THIS PLAN BEING FINALIZED AND COUNCIL ADOPTING IT, IT IS NOT 100% SURE THAT EVERYTHING IN THIS PLAN WILL GET ADOPTED MORE FUNDED. UM, THIS JUST SETS US OFF IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND SETS US, UM, ON A PATHWAY FOR DEPARTMENTS AND FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR EVERYONE TO COME TOGETHER AND SORT OF LIKE FOCUS ON WHAT NEEDS TO GET DONE TO PULL DOWN. OKAY, NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO THE SUMMARY OF WHAT'S IN THIS WHOLE PLAN, WHAT'S IN THIS, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PAGE DOCUMENT, UM, IT'S FOUR CROSS-CUTTING STRATEGIES, 17 GOALS THAT ARE QUANTITATIVE THINGS THAT WE CAN MEASURE TO BE ACHIEVED BY 2030 AND THEN 74 STRATEGIES, WHICH ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BE TACTICALLY IMPLEMENTED IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. UM, AND REALLY THE PLACE THAT WE, THAT WE ENDED UP SEEING AND BRINGING EQUITY ALIVE IN THE PLAN WAS IN THE STRATEGY DETAILS. SO WHEN YOU, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A LOT OF IT IN THE SLIDES, BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY GET INTO THIS DRAFT OF THIS PLAN, YOU WILL SEE ALL THE SPECIFICS AROUND, LIKE WHEN YOU IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM WHO SHOULD HAVE FOCUSED ON WHERE SHOULD THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. UM, ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT ISSUES ARE REALLY, UM, BROUGHT OUT IN THE, HOW WE'LL GET THERE OR LIKE THE SPECIFIC GUIDANCE ON, ON IMPLEMENTATION. OKAY. SO NEXT SLIDE CROSS-CUTTING STRATEGIES, UM, JUST VERY QUICKLY, I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE, THESE ARE FOUR STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE PULLING. W WHEN, WHEN YOU CREATED THE FIVE SECTIONS OF THE PLAN, THESE THINGS CAME UP KIND OF OVER AND OVER THAT WE NEEDED TO LIKE IN A BIG PICTURE WAY ACROSS ALL SECTIONS OF THE, OKAY, SO NEXT SLIDE, TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE. SO THIS IS THE FIRST SECTION OF THE PLAN, AS I SAID, THERE'S FIVE SECTIONS OF THE PLAN. UM, SO I'M JUST GOING TO SORT OF WALK THROUGH THE HIGH LEVEL, HIGH LEVEL GOALS AND STRATEGIES HERE. UM, THE GROUPS ON THE RIGHT ARE THE GROUPS THAT WERE ACTIVE IN PARTICIPATING IN THE ADVISORY GROUP TO CREATE THIS. GOTCHA. UM, AND THIS SECTION REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON. UM, SO WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS, UH, TRANSPORTATION EMISSIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY, UM, LIKE WE, WE DON'T CONTROL ALL THE LEVERS, RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE MAKING INDIVIDUAL DECISIONS. PEOPLE LIVE WHERE THEY LIVE, PEOPLE WORK, WHERE THEY WORK. WE HAVE A LOT OF EXISTING BUILDINGS, BUT THERE'S LOTS OF NEW BUILDINGS. AND SO THE CHALLENGE REALLY COMES TO, UM, HOW CAN WE GET PEOPLE OUT OF CARS AND GET PEOPLE INTO, UM, LOWER, LOWER EMISSION MODES OF TRANSPORTATION. AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS REALIZING THAT EVEN IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF CARS, THERE ARE STILL GOING TO BE CARS, RIGHT. THERE ARE STILL GOING TO BE CARS ON THE ROAD, UM, IN 2030 AND 2040. SO HOW CAN WE ELECTRIFY AS MANY OF THOSE CARS AS POSSIBLE USING RENEWABLE ENERGY FROM AUSTIN ENERGY? UM, SO, SO WE'RE TRYING TO SORT OF ADDRESS ALL THINGS AT ONCE HERE. AND THAT'S KIND OF, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CHALLENGING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, WE NEED TO SQUEEZE ALL OF THE CARBON AND ALL OF THE GASOLINE AND DIESEL USAGE OUT OF THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, UM, IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. SO KIND OF, IT'S AN ALL HANDS ON DECK KIND OF SITUATION HERE. UM, SO NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE 18. SO, UM, I THINK THAT IS ESSENTIAL TO, UH, GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF CARS OBVIOUSLY, UM, IS HAVING INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT? UM, WE CAN HAVE DENSITY, WE CAN HAVE, UM, UH, AXIALENT PARKING TO MAKE PARKING MORE CHALLENGING. UM, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE TO HAVE BIKING AND WALKING INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE. SO GETTING PROJECT CONNECTS FULLY BUILT OUT OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, AND THEN EVEN BEYOND 10 YEARS IS GOING TO GET TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OUT OF CARS. AND THAT'S GOOD FOR A LOT OF REASONS. THAT'S GOOD, UM, FOR IT CAN BE GOOD FOR EQUITY. IT'S GOOD FOR AFFORDABILITY. IT CAN BE GOOD FOR, UH, CONGESTION, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT'S WRITING. THIS IS ONE LESS CAR ON THE ROAD. SO PROJECT CONNECT PASSING AND GETTING FULLY IMPLEMENTED IS JUST ESSENTIAL TO A CLIMATE PLAN. SO WE ARE JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, BUILDING OFF OF THIS. SO NEXT SLIDE SLIDE NINE. SO, UM, THAT SAID PROJECT CONNECT IS ON ITS WAY. UM, THREE GOALS THAT WE PUT FORTH. THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. SO THE FIRST ONE IS THAT BY 2030, EVEN PERCENT OF NEW NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT [03:25:01] IS LOCATED IN CITY OF THE CITIES. IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTIVITY, CENTERS AND CORRIDORS. AND THIS GOAL IS FROM IMAGINE AUSTIN. BUT, UH, THE DATA THAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT, UM, SINCE 2012, WHEN WE, 70%, 72% OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY OCCURRING IN THE ACTIVITY CENTERS AND QUARTERS. SO THE IDEA HERE IS TO, UM, IMPLEMENT STRATEGIES, THINKING ABOUT COMPLETE COMMUNITIES, WORKING WITH EMPLOYERS, MOBILITY HUBS, TRYING TO TAKE ACTION ON FREE PARKING, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT ALL OF THEM, UM, THIS HAPPENING WITH, UM, WITH LANDON ELEMENT, ESSENTIALLY TO INCREASE AS MUCH DENSITY AS WE CAN, UH, WITHIN CENTERS AND CORRIDORS AS IS IN LINE WITH IMAGINE AUSTIN. SO NEXT SLIDE SLIDE 20. UM, THE SECOND GOAL THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORTH HERE IS BY 2027, AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY STRAIGHT OUT OF THE STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT. SO PRESERVING PRODUCED 135,000 HOUSING UNITS, 60,000 AFFORDABLE UNITS, 75%, AND OF THOSE NEW HOUSING WITHIN A HALF A MILE OF IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTIVITY CENTERS AND CORRIDORS, AND THE SPECIFIC STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE SORT OF, UM, PUTTING FORWARD TO AUGMENT EFFORTS. THERE ARE OFFER IMMEDIATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ASSISTANCE FUND, MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THEN FINALLY ENHANCE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AROUND FORDABLE HOUSING. UM, WE KNOW THAT, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING HELPS KEEP PEOPLE IN AUSTIN HELPS KEEP PEOPLE CLOSER TO JOBS. UM, AND IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR EQUITY AND CAN DRAMATICALLY REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. UM, SO THIS ONE IS KEY AND THEN GOAL THREE. UM, SO GOAL ONE AND TWO AROUND, UM, INCREASING DENSITY, UM, WHEREAS RIGHT. UM, AND KEEPING OFTEN AFFORDABLE AND KEEPING PEOPLE IN GROWTH HAPPENING IN OUR CITY. AND THEN THE THIRD ONE IS AROUND TRIPS. SO THE GOAL HERE IS BY 2030 TO HAVE 15% OF TRIPS BY NUMBER IN AUSTIN ARE MADE USING PUBLIC TRANSIT, BIKING. OKAY. DEFINITELY CARPOOLING OR AVOIDED ALTOGETHER WORKING FROM HOME AND WHAT STRATEGIES WE HAVE HERE THAT WERE, ARE BEING PUT FORWARD AGAIN TO AUGMENT PROJECT CONNECT, AUGMENT THAT AWESOME STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN ARE ESSENTIALLY TO EXPAND IT, APPROVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, PROMOTE FREE TRANSPORTATION, OFTEN OPTIONS, UH, SUPPORT METRO WITH BETTER TRANSIT STATIONS AND STOPS PRIORITIZE THE BICYCLE NECK NETWORK, UM, IMPROVED BICYCLE EDUCATION AND TRAINING, AND THEN IMPROVED SIDEWALKS, URBAN TOURISM CROSSINGS. SO THIS TARGET, UM, IS, UH, IS MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN. AND WHILE IT'S NOT EXPLICITLY, UM, UH, VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED LIKE REDUCTION TARGET IT IN EFFECT WOULD BE, UM, IT WOULD BE A VMT REDUCTION TARGET IF WE'RE REALLY SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING, GETTING TO THIS POINT, UH, 50% OF ALL TRIPS MADE NOT USING A CAR. OKAY. SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS LIKE 22. UM, SO THOSE, THOSE STRATEGIES WERE AROUND GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF CARS. OH, OKAY. THERE WE ARE. NEVERMIND. WE GOT IT. GOOD. OKAY. WE'RE SORT OF ON THE DOWNHILL HERE. SO GEOSPATIAL ELECTRIFICATION, THIS SECTOR IS AROUND INCREASING THE NUMBER OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WE'RE NOT ENCOURAGING MORE VEHICLES ON THE ROAD. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THE TURNOVER OF WHEN PEOPLE REPLACE GASOLINE CARS, REPLACED THEM WITH, UM, EDS. SO NEXT SLIDE SLIDE 23, THE THREE TARGETS IN THIS SECTION, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE THREE IN DETAIL, UM, ARE AROUND LIKE 2030 TRYING TO GET TO 40% OF THE TOTAL VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED THE READINGS IN 2030. SO IF WE'RE, IF WE REALLY ARE SUCCESSFUL AT GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF CARS, TOTAL VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED WOULD BE LOWER. AND THEN TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT OF 40% OF THAT TOTAL BEING ELECTRIFIED. UM, SO THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THERE TO TRY TO INCLUDE PRIESTS ELECTRIC CAR ADOPTION. THE SECOND GOAL THERE, UM, IS AROUND CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE. SO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, LOW COST ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN THE FINAL [03:30:01] STRATEGY THERE IS AROUND TRYING TO HAVE, UM, OUR MSA REALLY BE A LEADER IN TRANSPORTATION, ELECTRIFICATION. UM, ELECTRIC VEHICLES CAN SAVE PEOPLE A LOT OF MONEY. UM, THEY ARE MORE RELIABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, A BETTER SOLUTION FOR AIR QUALITY FOR HEALTH, UM, FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS. BUT LIKE I SAID, NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS DIFFERENT TIMES. WE DON'T WANT MORE CARS ON THE ROAD. WE WANT TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF CARS AND THEN ELECTRICALLY WHAT'S REMAINING. OKAY. NEXT SLIDE IS SUSTAINABLE BUILDINGS. SO CAN YOU THINK WITH SUSTAINABLE BUILDING IS BECAUSE, UH, SO NEXT SLIDE FIVE 25, UM, BECAUSE OF ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS WITH AUSTIN ENERGY WITH, UH, GREENING THEIR, UM, GENERATION FLEET WITH, UM, THE NEW TARGETS THAT THEY SET TO GET TO 93% CARBON FREE ENERGY BY 2030 AND A HUNDRED PERCENT CARBON FREE ENERGY BY 2035, UM, MUCH OF THE CARBON IS ALREADY SORT OF PLANNED AND ON ITS WAY TO BE SQUEEZED OUT OF THE ELECTRICITY. SO FIVE 26. SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT AS THE ELECTRICITY GETS GREENER AND GREENER AND GREENER, UM, THERE'S STILL WORK TO DO TO GET ALL THE CARBON OUT OF BUILDINGS. UM, RIGHT NOW MANY, MANY BUILDINGS USE NATURAL GAS, UM, IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR E. SO THE FIRST GOAL IS AROUND DE-CARBONIZING ENERGY, DECARBONIZING BUILDINGS, REDUCING ENERGY BURDEN, AND TRYING TO GET TO NET ZERO CARBON FOR ALL NEW BUILDINGS, FIVE 2030. THE SECOND GOAL IS AROUND REDUCING EMISSION FROM REFRIGERANT LEAKAGE. THIS IS KIND OF A NEW SECTOR THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING, BUT THE CHEMICALS THAT ARE IN AIR CONDITIONERS THAT ARE IN REFRIGERATORS, THOSE CHEMICALS LEAK TO THE ATMOSPHERE AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS TO, UH, THE THIRD GOAL IS AROUND, UH, THE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF BUILDING MATERIALS. OKAY. TRYING TO, UH, LOWER THE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF BUILDING MATERIALS THAT ARE USED IN CONSTRUCTION IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEN THE FINAL, THE FINAL GOAL HERE IS AROUND THE INTERCONNECTIVITY OF WATER USAGE IN BUILDINGS TO CLIMATE CHANGE. UM, OUR WATER SOURCES ARE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE LESS WATER WE USE, THE LESS ENERGY WE HAVE TO USE TO TREAT THAT WATER, UM, WHICH IS BETTER. OKAY, SLIDE 27, TWO SECTIONS LEFT. SO FOOD AND PRODUCT CONSUMPTION. THIS IS A BRAND NEW SECTION FOR THIS TYPE OF PLAN. WE REALIZED THAT AWESOME RESOURCE RECOVERY IS GOING THROUGH A ZERO WASTE PLANNING EFFORT RIGHT NOW. SO THE PORTION OF THIS PLAN IS MEANT TO SORT OF LOOK UPSTREAM AT PURCHASING AND SORT OF BIGGER PICTURE DECISIONS ON, UM, ALL THE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE USING ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS AND NOT REALLY FOCUSED ON END-OF-LIFE. SO SLIDE 28 FROM PRODUCT CONSUMPTION. THESE ARE THE THREE GOALS THAT ARE BEING PUT FORWARD IN THIS SECTION. THE FIRST ONE IS AROUND, UM, THE FOOD THAT WE BUY, UM, AND ALL EAT EVERY DAY. YOU KNOW, 90% OF THAT FOOD COMES FROM OTHER PLACES AND, UH, CERTAIN TYPES OF FOOD HAVE HIGHER CARBON FOOTPRINT THAN OTHERS. UM, ALL THE WHILE, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THIS FOOD THAT WE'RE EATING IS NOT GOOD FOR US. SO THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE PEOPLE HEALTHIER, TO SUPPORT FOOD FOODS THAT ARE BETTER FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, UH, FOODS THAT SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, REGENERATIVE AGRICULTURE, AND ACTUALLY PULL CARPENTER OUT OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND WHY MOST OF THIS ACTIVITY ACTUALLY DOESN'T HAPPEN EXACTLY IN OUR CITY VIA DECISIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE A HUGE, OBVIOUS UPSTREAM IMPACT ON THIS. THE SECOND GOAL HERE IS AROUND INSTITUTIONAL COMMERCIAL AND GOVERNMENT PURCHASE, UM, ORGANIZATIONS LIKE UT ARCH CORPORATION, CITY OF AUSTIN, TRAVIS COUNTY. UM, WE HAVE A HUGE IMPACT WHEN WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THINGS LIKE, UH, CONCRETE, STEEL AND INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, SO TRYING TO CREATE PROGRAMS TO REDUCE THE IMPACT OF THAT INSTITUTIONAL PERSON. AND THEN THE LAST GOAL HERE IS JUST AROUND SUPPORTING THE NEW AWESOME RESOURCE RECOVERY, ZERO WASTE FORM, UM, AND TRYING TO SUPPORT, UH, THEIR CIRCULAR ECONOMY EFFORTS AND REALLY TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS ACTUALLY REDUCING OUR PROCURE PER CAPITA DISPOSAL RATE. UH, SO WE'RE NOT JUST FOCUSING ON USING LOTS OF THINGS AND JUST RECYCLING ALL THE TIME. OKAY. SLIDE 29 NATURAL SYSTEMS. THIS IS A BRAND NEW SECTION FOR A PLAN LIKE THIS. UM, [03:35:03] UH, THE SOILS, THE TREES, THE LANDSCAPES, THE PARKS, UM, UH, WATERSHED PROTECTION LANDS, NATURAL LANDS, ALL THAT, THE THINGS THAT ARE ALIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, SEQUESTER CARBON, THEY'RE PULLING CARBON OUT OF THE ATMOSPHERE FOR PLANTS TO ACTUALLY TO GROW. UM, IT IS HARD TO QUANTIFY. IT'S BEEN HARD TO MEASURE THE ACTUAL IMPACT OF THIS, UM, THIS, BUT THIS SECTION OF THE PLAN IS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT, UM, REAL CARBON SEQUESTRATION CAN HAPPEN IN, UM, IN ALL OF THESE LANDS. AND WE CAN BE DOING MANY, MANY THINGS TO TRY TO PULL MORE CARBONATED THE ATMOSPHERE. SO SLIDE 30, THESE ARE THE LAST FOUR GOALS. UM, THE FOCUS HERE IS AROUND TRYING TO, UH, PROTECT CARBON POOLS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY MEANS LAND, WHERE YOU HAVE LOTS OF TREES AND CARBON STORED IN, ABOVE, ABOVE THE GROUND, LIVE LIFE PLANTS AND TREES, AS WELL AS THE SOIL. SECOND GOAL IS AROUND PROTECTING FARM LAND IN THE FIVE COUNTY REGION. UM, AND THEN REALLY TRYING TO SUPPORT REGENERATIVE AGRICULTURE ON THAT FARM LAND. UM, FARMING CAN HAVE, UH, HAVE A MASSIVE POTENTIAL TO PULL LOTS OF CARBON DOWN FROM THE ATMOSPHERE, BUT IF YOU DO FARMING, YOU KNOW, USING SYNTHETIC FERTILIZERS AND INDUSTRIAL AGRICULTURE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY CREATING, UH, EMISSIONS TO THE ATMOSPHERE. THIRD GOAL, UH, IT WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE FOR OUR CITY IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE 50% CITY-WIDE TREE. CAN IT BE COVERED BY 2050, UM, PROTECTING EXISTING TREES, UM, EXPANDING THE TREE COVER AND REALLY TRYING TO DO THAT IN AN EQUITABLE WAY. AND THEN THE LAST GOAL THERE IS THE CITY OWNED, LOTS OF OWNED, LOTS OF LAND, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE PARKS, YOU KNOW, ON THE BALCONIES LANDS, WATER QUALITY PROTECTION LANDS. SO TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE LANDS THAT WE OWN ARE UNDER MANAGEMENT PLANS, THAT ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO TRY TO SEQUESTER MORE CARBON INTO THOSE LANDS. OKAY. VERY LAST SLIDE. SO IT'S LIKE 31 IS HOW IT ALL ADDS UP. SO THE TOP LINE HERE IS IF WE DO NOTHING, IF WE DO NOTHING OVER THE NEXT DECADE, EMISSIONS ARE JUST GOING TO INCREASE IF WE IMPLEMENT, UM, TO THE BEST OF OUR CALCULATIONS, EVERYTHING IN THIS PLAN, INCLUDING AUSTIN ENERGY GENERATION PLAN, INCLUDING PROJECT CONNECT, INCLUDING REACHING THE TARGETS ON ELECTRIC VEHICLES ON MODE SHIFT. UM, WE, UM, WE COULD ACHIEVE EMISSION REDUCTIONS OF ESSENTIALLY 50%. SO IT REALLY IS, WE THINK IT IS AGGRESSIVE BUT POSSIBLE TO GET EMISSIONS DOWN TO EFFICIENTLY 50% BELOW CURRENT LEVELS BY 2030. UM, YOU SEE THE GAP THERE. THE GAP IS ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO JUST EXEMPLIFY THAT BY MOVING OUR TARGET UP TO NET ZERO EMISSIONS BY 2040, AND REALLY BUILDING IN THIS SUPER STEEP REDUCTION CURVE, UM, WE WILL JUST, THE PRESSURE WILL BE ON TO SEQUESTER CART TO FIND MORE PLACES TO REDUCE EMISSIONS. SO WHAT'S NOT SHOWN ON HERE IS POTENTIAL EMISSION REDUCTIONS FROM, UM, CAPTURING MORE CARBON IN NATURAL SYSTEMS, UM, FROM AVOIDING EMISSIONS UPSTREAM FROM THOSE CIRCULAR ECONOMY AND PURCHASING ACTIONS. UM, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE THINK THE PLAN WHEN YOU PUT IT ALL TOGETHER IS AGGRESSIVE BUT REALISTIC. UM, AND REALLY JUST SETS US ON THIS COURSE, UM, TO JUST SORT OF PUSH THE LIMIT AND REALLY TRY TO ACHIEVE MORE AND MORE AND WITH MORE AND MORE WITH THIS EVERY YEAR. SO FIVE 32, THAT'S IT. UM, HERE'S MY EMAIL ADDRESS. UM, THE WHOLE DRAFT PLAN, THE FULL A HUNDRED PAGE VERSION IS AVAILABLE AND SPEAK UP AUSTIN. UM, THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION ON SPEAKUP AUSTIN IS CLOSED FOR NOW. UM, I CAN TAKE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, OR, YOU KNOW, AFTER THIS MEETING, ANYTIME YOU ALL FOLLOW UP WITH COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS AND OR THOUGHTS OR ADDITIONS OR CHANGES OR, OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE, UM, ON THIS. SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE. THANKS FOR LISTENING. I KNOW IT'S A LOT. OH, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I, THIS IS LIKE, WHAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME, YOU KNOW, MAKING AUSTIN A BETTER PLACE FOR, YOU KNOW, HEALTHY, CLEAN AIR AND WATER FOR GENERATIONS TO COME AS MY LIFE'S WORK. SO I'M REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS STUFF, [03:40:01] AND I APPRECIATE YOU PRESENTED TO THE GROUP, AND THIS IS THE DISHES. THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE IN THIS GROUP ARE ALL IMPACTED BY WHAT YOU PRESENTED. SO, UM, ANYWAY, THANK YOU. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO ADD, UH, COMMENTS. I GOT SOME THUMBS UP. PEOPLE ARE HAPPY. OH, GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER KING ZACK, TAKE ONE BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY UNCLEAR RIGHT NOW. KIND OF, NOT REALLY. OKAY. HERE. LET ME, LET ME DO THAT. DOES THAT HELP? OH, THAT'S BETTER. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH. UH, UH, SO, WELL, I WOULD JUST SHARING, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR THINGS CHAIR TO THE TWO FOR THE PRESENTER TONIGHT AND THE WORK THAT THE TEAM HAS DONE ON THIS AND THE FOCUS ON EQUITY, I THINK THAT'S REALLY A PRIORITY. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF QUICK POINTS HERE AND THAT'S IT, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE TIME HERE. UH, BUT I JUST WONDER IF WE MIGHT HAVE SOME FOLLOW ON ABOUT HOW, WHAT LESSONS WERE LEARNED FROM WINTER STORM URI, AS IT RELATES TO, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, AUSTIN ENERGY AND ITS, UH, RESILIENCY AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY TIES INTO MANY OF THE THINGS WE SAW IN THE SLIDE TODAY. I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND HOW, HOW, HOW IT REALLY EXPOSED THE, THE INEQUITY THAT'S, THAT'S EMBEDDED IN OUR CITY IN, IN, IN SO MANY WAYS HERE. AND SO I, I HOPE WE GET SOME LESSONS LEARNED ABOUT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT MAKING THE AUSTIN ENERGY GRID MORE RESILIENT AND STRATEGIES FOR THAT. AND, UH, BECAUSE THAT CERTAINLY DOES AFFECT OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, OUR LOW INCOME FAMILIES, VERY, VERY STRONGLY, AND THE OTHER, UH, ISSUE OR AREA. I JUST WONDER ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FOCUS ON PROJECT CONNECT AND HOW THAT'S REALLY STRATEGIC TO THIS. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT PROJECT TO NICK HOWES HAS A ANTI-DISPLACEMENT COMPONENT TO IT. AND TO ME, THAT'S ALSO EQUITY AND THEY TIED TOGETHER. SO I LIKED THE TIE IN. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS HOW THIS PLAN CAN KIND OF CONNECT TO THESE SPECIFIC EQUITY STRATEGIES IN THESE OTHER PLANS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, SUCH AS PROJECT CONNECT. AND THEN ONE OTHER SUGGESTION IS WHEN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT WE CAN SEE A STRONGER FOCUS ON SUSTAINABILITY FOR OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR OR LOW INCOME FAMILIES, SUCH AS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THEY'RE THERE FOR INCOME ECONOMIC STABILITY. SO W YOU KNOW, FOCUSING ON MAKING SURE THEY CAN MAKE LIVING WAGES AND, UH, THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP PROMOTE THAT AND, AND, AND, UH, MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND ALSO PURCHASING FOOD PRODUCTS FROM, FROM SOURCES, FARMERS THAT PAY LIVING WAGES TO THEIR WORKERS AND TREAT THEIR WORKERS FAIRLY, GIVING THEM GOOD, SAFE WORKING CONDITIONS, CLEAN, DECENT HOUSING, THAT'S A BIG ISSUE. BUT TO ME, THAT'S PART OF EQUITY AS IT RELATES TO, TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ACQUIRING OUR FOOD FROM AGAIN FROM A COST HAS TO BE A BIG PART OF THIS EQUITY PLAN AND HOW, HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR, OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN OUR LOW INCOME FAMILIES. UM, SO I, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE PLAN ABOUT THAT, THAT ADDRESSES THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS, BUT IT'S A GREAT, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION, AND AGAIN, I JUST APPRECIATE THE FOCUS ON EQUITY. THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER BRAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, YEAH, I ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE THAT FOCUS ON EQUITY. I THINK THE, THE RECENT WATER ISSUES, I DEFINITELY HIT, UH, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE AND PEOPLE, AND ESPECIALLY LOW INCOME CAN COME UP, APARTMENT COMPLEXES A LOT HARDER THAN OTHERS, UH, AND WE'RE STILL SEEING ONGOING PROBLEMS. UM, SO I THINK FOCUSING, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT HOW CLIMATE CHANGE EFFECTS, UH, PEOPLE, UH, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OF COLOR HARDER, I THINK IS IMPORTANT. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THIS WAS JUST LIKE WITHIN THE CITY OF LIMITS OR WAS THIS LIKE A REGIONAL LOOK AT CLIMATE. UM, AND I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT, BUT I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THAT FIRST, THIS DELICATE GENERAL, GENERAL METROPOLITAN AREA, JUST A CITY, THE, THE, THE BOUNDARY THAT WE FOCUSED ON WAS JUST THE CITY. UM, BUT FOR THE NATURAL SYSTEMS SECTION, WE SORT OF BLURRED THE LINES AND, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT KIND OF THE FIVE COUNTY REGION. UM, AND WHEREAS I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT IS WITH LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION. UM, I THOUGHT IT'S, IT'S REALLY GREAT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT LIKE 80% OF OUR GROWTH IN THE CITY ON THE CORRIDORS. UH, BUT THAT IS NOT ENOUGH. UH, WE STILL KNOW THAT MOST OF OUR GROWTH IS OCCURRING OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, OR AT LEAST [03:45:01] IT MIGHT BE NOT EXACTLY THE ONLINE PORTION, I THINK IS THE MAJORITY, BUT DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT OF OUR GROWTH IS ENCOURAGING. UM, YOU KNOW, WILLIAMSON COUNTY IS LIKE, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTIES IN THE COUNTRY, UM, AND THAT'S A LARGE QUESTION BECAUSE AUSTIN AND IT'S IN LARGE PART, I'M GOING TO TOUCH A THIRD RAIL OF AUSTIN POLITICS HERE, BUT IT'S BECAUSE OF OUR LAND USE IS BECAUSE PLACES LIKE HYDE PARK AND ZILKER, AND A LOT OF CENTRAL AUSTIN IS RESERVED EXCLUSIVELY FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, UH, THAT IS THAT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE, UH, THAT IT'S BASED ON A MODEL OF GROWTH. THAT'S 50 TO A HUNDRED YEARS OLD THAT SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU BUILD A SUBURB. AND THEN WHEN THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE MOVE HERE, YOU BUILD ANOTHER SUBURB AND WE'RE STILL DOING THAT. AND, UH, IT'S REALLY EMOTIONALLY AND POLITICALLY HARD IN AUSTIN TO HAVE A LOT MORE HOUSING IN CENTRAL AUSTIN AND, AND HAVE AUSTIN BE NOT TO MOVE PAST THAT KIND OF EMOTIONAL. LIKE WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS TO STAY THE SAME, BUT OUR CENTRAL AUSTIN NEEDS TO RADICALLY CHANGE IF WE ARE ACTUALLY SERIOUS ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. AND, UH, WE NEED TO NOT JUST BE TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH THIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT A BROADER LEVEL, THE GREATER METROPOLITAN AREA, NOT JUST 80% OF CITY OF AUSTIN'S GROWTH ON THE CORRIDORS AND IN, IN PLACES THIS ENVIRONMENTALLY SUSTAINABLE, BUT 80% OF THE GROWTH OF THE GENERAL METROPOLITAN AREA. AND IF WE'RE NOT PULLING GROWTH AWAY FROM PLACES LIKE WILLIAMSON COUNTY AND BUDA AND, AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS OR NOT REALLY ADDRESSING CLIMATE AS A COMPREHENSIVE, UH, THE PROBLEM. UM, SO, UH, I THINK IT'S A DIFFICULT DISCUSSION AND I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALL, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT. AND, UH, AND IT'S AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM IN A LOT OF CASES, BUT IT'S REALLY SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT CONSTITUTES, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM MISSIONARY DINKLER QUICK ONE. I KNOW THE FOCUS, UM, HAS BEEN ON EMISSIONS, BUT I AM A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT WE DIDN'T LOOK AT FLOODING AS PART OF CLIMATE CHANGE. UM, WE JUST REVISED OUR FLOOD PLAIN MAPS, UH, BASED ON US WEATHER DATA. UM, THOSE REPORTS DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT CLIMATE CHANGE AND, UM, WE HAVE UNDER SIZED PIPES AND LOCALIZED FLOODING IN ALL PARTS OF TOWN. UH, SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THIS WAS NOT A CONSIDERATION OF THE GROUP? UM, ESPECIALLY GIVEN WE PROBABLY SPENT ABOUT 40 MILLION ON BUYOUTS, UH, IN NOT JUST IN, UM, ONE PART OF TOWN, BUT EVERYWHERE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. UM, SO WE ALL WORK, WE CALL THAT WORK, UH, CLIMATE ADAPTATION AND RESILIENCE. SO, UH, THERE ARE NUMEROUS DIFFERENT PLANNING EFFORTS. THERE IS LOTS OF ACTIVITY THAT'S HAPPENING ON CLIMATE, UH, ADAPTATION AND RESILIENCE. IT'S JUST SEPARATE FROM THIS CONVERSATION. YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE WERE TO FULLY BRING IN ADAPTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND ADDRESSING IT, I MEAN, THE PLAN WOULD BE SO GIGANTIC AND UNMANAGEABLE, UM, THAT WE SORT OF JUST PULLED BACK AND SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PLAN ADDRESSING EMISSIONS. AND THEN WE WILL ALSO HAVE PLANS TO ADDRESS FLOODING, DROUGHT, HEAT, WILDFIRE, ALL THOSE THINGS. SO, UM, THERE IS WORK THAT'S DONE ON THAT. I CAN SHARE IT WITH YOU. UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST ON ANOTHER CHANNEL. YEAH. IN THE INTEREST OF BREVITY I'LL TOUCH BASE WITH YOU LATER, BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT SOME CONCERN WHEN THE LAST VERSION OF CODE NEXT INCREASED IMPERVIOUS COVER ALONG THOSE QUARTERS. SO IT'S A BALANCING ACT. I ACTUALLY DO THINK WE NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE PEDESTRIAN, UH, THE BIKING. UM, WE DO NEED TO BE MOVING FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION AS COMMISSIONER RAY AND OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED. UM, I ALSO KNOW IT'S NOT THE, THERE'S SORT OF A PRACTICALITY IN ALL OF THIS, HOW FAST WE GET THERE, ETC. SO I'LL TOUCH BASE WITH YOU LATER ABOUT THAT, IF I COULD. AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT OUR VICE CHAIR SUGGESTED THIS. UH, I THINK IT WAS REAL AND VALUABLE DISCUSSION. YEAH. OKAY. WE HAVE 10 MINUTES LEFT. SO, UM, I'LL MOVE ON QUICKLY TO, I THINK IT'S D ONE, WHICH IS ABOUT THE, UM, ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING MATTERS RELATED TO ANY PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE ANY, [03:50:03] SO, UM, E IS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS ARE NOT TO BE, OR WILL NOT BE DISCUSSED AT THE CURRENT MEETING, BUT WILL BE OFFERED FOR INITIATION. ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. YES. COMMISSIONER KOSTA. I REALLY JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, KUDOS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LEADING US THROUGH THIS MEETING. UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK OUR LAST, UH, LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS HAVE BEEN REALLY COME AND LEAVE. AND YET THIS FIRST ONE THAT YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF, HAS IT JUST BEEN SUCH AN ORDEAL? AND I, I REALLY JUST WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND GREAT JOB BEING CHAIR FOR THIS MEETING. OH, THANK YOU. I'M NOT DONE YET. I GOT ONE WORD 10 ITEMS. UM, SO THIS NEXT [F. NOMINATIONS ] ONE IS A KIND OF A, UH, INTERESTING ONE. F1 IS ABOUT NOMINATION AND RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION MEMBER TO THE COMPREHEND, UH, MEMBERS TO SERVE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE FOR CODES AND ORDINANCES. EVIDENTLY BECAUSE THE CHAIR MYSELF AND, UH, PARLIAMENTARIAN DINKLER WERE ON CODES AND ORDINANCES TOGETHER. THAT IS A EXECUTIVE QUORUM. SO WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T ALL SERVE AT THE SAME TIME, BUT THEN THE CHAIRS, UH, CYCLING OFF IN APRIL, I THINK SO MAYBE IT'S OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. I'M BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE IT'S ON THE AGENDA WE COULD EITHER. AND I CAN TELL YOU, UM, INTERESTINGLY, WE DON'T HAVE A MARCH MEETING. UM, THAT'S BEEN CANCELED AND I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF WE EVEN HAVE AN APRIL MEETING. I THINK IT'S BEEN EIGHT MONTHS SINCE WE'VE HAD ONE. SO, UH, LET'S WAIT TILL THE CHAIR GETS BACK IF WE COULD. UM, UH, SHE, I KNOW HADN'T BEEN SERVED ON A SINGLE COMMITTEE FOR YEARS AND WANTS TO AVAIL HERSELF OF THAT. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE EXECUTIVE BOARD, UH, IS AN ISSUE ON CORN. SO I'LL PROBABLY TOUCH BASE WITH LEGAL ABOUT THAT. SO WE'LL WAIT UNTIL NEXT TIME TO TALK ABOUT THAT. AND THEN G ANY COMMITTEE REPORTS. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S MET. I KNOW WE HAVEN'T. OKAY. SO THAT'S IT. EIGHT MINUTES TO SPARE. THANK YOU GUYS. SEE YOU GUYS HERE. YOU TOO. OKAY, BYE. THANK YOU. AND ALSO COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, RIGHT? OH, NO. YEAH. WALLS ARE PAINTED RED, BROWN AND GRAY AROUND THE . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.