* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:09] THIS IS MARCH 22ND, 2021. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS? GOOD EVENING. MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS ELIZABETH GROMMET WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE MEETING, REGISTERED FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. OKAY. UM, OKAY. WE [1. A. January 25, 2021 – Offered for consent approval] HAVE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 25TH, 2021 MEETING. IT SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY. WHAT? WE'RE GOING TO CALL ROLL. OH, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU, BEN. I'M SET. PRESENT. OKAY. WILL FEATHERSTON NOT HERE? NOT YET. NANCY. JACOB, KEVIN KELLY. LITTLE. I SAW BETWEEN THE QUARTER. I SEE ALEX POP-UP AND CELIA NOT HERE YET. RIGHT? TO LET BETH KELLEN SUELA AND CAROLINE RIGHT PRESENT. WE'VE JUST GOT MATTHEW, JACOB. OKAY. WE HAVE MATTHEW JACOB HERE. HI. HELLO? OKAY. UM, I THINK WE HAVE THE JANUARY 25TH, 2021 MINUTES WILL BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. WE'LL HAVE PRESENTATIONS DISCUSSIONS AND POSSIBLE ACTION COMING UP. BUT IF WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS OFFERED FOR CONSENT, UNLESS THERE'S ANYONE TO SPEAK TO THEM, OR IF ONE OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS WANTS TO PULL THEM FOR DISCUSSION. UH, THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE HAVE ON CONSENT AGENDA IS THE SEABORN SNEAD HOUSE. WE WANT TO VOTE TO SEE IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE IT ON OUR AGENDA. ITEMS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ARE B 2008 EAST NINTH STREET B3, 2005 HAMILTON STREET, BEFORE FIVE OH EIGHT DECENT MARY STREET. I'D LIKE TO PULL THAT ONE MYSELF FOR DISCUSSION THE FIVE, EIGHT OH THREE PRESSLER B SEVEN 1515 MURRAY LANE, C4 15, 10 WEST. IS IT 19 OR 24TH? THE, UH, IT'S SHOWING TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. STAFF. THAT SHOULD BE 15, 10 WEST 24TH STREET, WEST 24TH STREET. OKAY. ON THE, UM, CONSENT AGENDA NOTES THAT I HAD, IT SAID 14. SO THAT'S ON THE WEST 24TH STREET. UM, THEN WE HAVE C EIGHT 63 OF RAINEY STREET, THE SIX 34 OH FOUR, THE NINE 6,800 WOODROW AND CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO FILL THAT OUT. I'M SORRY. I'D LIKE TO PULL THAT ONE. YOU'D LIKE TO PULL THE WOODROW AVENUE. OKAY. STEP THAT 6,800 WOODROW AVENUE HAS BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION ALSO ON THE, UH, OFFERED FOR, UH, CONSENT AS DEAN NINE. I'M SORRY, D 12 SEVEN OH TWO FOUR D STREET. WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS, UM, THAT 1308 TRAVIS HEIGHTS STEP THAT WASN'T ON MY, UM, ON MY CONSENT. BUT, UH, WE HAVE THAT OFFERED FOR CONSENT ON THE MAIN AGENDA. THAT IS, THAT IS NO LONGER CORRECT. WE HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK REGARDING THAT ITEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION COMMISSIONER HYDROSTAT. [00:05:03] AND AS I'D MENTIONED BEFORE, THE SEABIRDS NEED HOUSE 1801 GNOMES DRIVE OR ALBERT FOR CONSENT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CASE ON OUR AGENDA. WE HAVE THREE CASES, UM, THAT WE MAY WANT TO HAVE POSTPONE THE NINE 1104 20TH STREET AS POSTPONEMENT REQUEST WAS REQUESTED FROM THE CLARKSVILLE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. TO HAVE MORE TIME TO LOOK AT THE PLANS, THE FIVE, FIVE OH THREE EAST ANNIE A NEIGHBOR HAS REQUESTED POSTPONEMENTS. SO THAT WILL BE, UM, WE'LL TALK TO THE, UH, APPLICANT, IF THEY'RE ON THE LINE AND DEED 10 47, 14 ROOMINESS STREET. THAT'S AN REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT IS THE APPLICANT HERE FOR 1104 12TH STREET. WOULD YOU AGREE TO A POSTPONEMENT? GIVE US A MOMENT, PLEASE. WE NEED TO UNMUTE EVERYONE ON THE LINE. OKAY. MADAM CHAIR, LOOKING AT THE LIST OF REGISTERED SPEAKERS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE FOR 1,104 TOYA ITEM C NINE. OKAY. WE SHOULD HAVE, UH, MARY REED FROM THE CLARKSVILLE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO WHY SHE WAS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT. OKAY, GOOD. AND I'M WANTING TO SAY SOMETHING. IF YOU HAVE ALL THE FOLKS ON THE LINE WHO ARE WAITING TO SPEAK, UM, I NEGLECTED TO SAY THAT OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS ON, UM, ZOOM MEETINGS IS THAT WE WILL TAKE ALL OF THE SPEAKERS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING IN THE ORDER THAT THEY ARE, UH, LISTED IN THE AGENDA. AND THEN WE WILL, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA WITH THE DISCUSSION ITEMS. AND IF A COMMISSIONER, UM, HAS A QUESTION, YOU MAY STAY ON THE LINE, UH, YOU MAY BE CALLED ON, BUT IF YOUR CASE IS TAKEN CARE OF ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THEN, UH, THAT ENDED VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. THEN YOUR CASES DISMISSED AND YOU NEED TO STAY ON THE LINE STAFF. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I SHOULD MENTION AT THIS POINT? HI, I THINK YOU'VE COVERED IT. YEAH. OKAY. SHOULD BE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE GOING ONTO THE POSTPONEMENT. YES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. I'M SORRY. UM, THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA I HAD PULLED BEFORE FIVE OH EIGHT EAST MARY, UH, BUT THE OTHER ITEMS ARE AS LISTED EXCEPT FOR 1308 TRAVIS HEIGHT THAT HAS ALSO BEEN PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA IF YOU DID YOU CALL UP, SEE TOO AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO, I DID NOT. WHAT ABOUT AS PART OF THIS BEING OFFERED IT FOR CONSENT ON THE AGENDA? IF ONE IS BEING OFFERED FOR CONSENT ON THE AGENDA, C TWO A, THAT'S GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM BECAUSE SOMEONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAS ASKED SPEAK ON THAT ITEM AND THE OTHER ONE WAS F1. DID YOU SAY IT'S A, UH, APPLICATION FOR TAX ABATEMENT? OKAY. I'M SORRY. YEAH. F1. UH, THIS IS A CASE ON, UH, ON THOUSAND EIGHT, UM, EAST NINTH STREET AND THAT IS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA. THAT WAS THE FIRST ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. I BELIEVE I HAVE IT AS B2 AS WELL. UM, IT'S BOTH ITEMS B TWO IS FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE PROJECT FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. F1 IS FOR THE TAX ABATEMENT APPLICATION. OKAY. THE, UM, OKAY, SO IT'S, IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TO APPROVE THE, UM, THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE, UM, IS PROPOSED FOR THIS PROPERTY. AND THEN IT'S ON OUR, UM, OFFERED [00:10:01] FOR CONSENT ON F1, UM, TO APPROVE THE TAX ABATEMENT. I BELIEVE THIS IS OUR FIRST TAX ABATEMENT PROJECT THAT WE'VE SEEN HERE, UM, FOR THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS. AND THIS WORK WAS REVIEWED BY THE, UM, CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS COMMITTEE OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. UM, AND WE APPROVED, WE, UH, RECOMMEND THEIR, THEIR WORK. IS THAT ALL? OKAY. THEN I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. OKAY. A SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A SECOND BY, UM, BETH, UH, MOTION BY KEVIN COOK. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ANY OPPOSED? NO, IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ON THE POSTPONE ONCE I'VE GONE OVER THOSE, THE 1104 20TH, UM, POSTPONEMENT REQUESTS FROM CLARKSVILLE, THE APPLICANT ISN'T THE LINE. UM, BUT IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION FROM, UH, THE OTHER SPEAKER, UM, MARY, UM, READ ON THE LINE, THAT'LL BE ON OUR POSTPONEMENT AGENDA ON D FIVE, FIVE OH THREE EAST ANNIE, A NEIGHBOR HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT. IS THERE AN APPLICANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? YES. OKAY. UH, CAN IT FEEL ON THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA OR DO YOU WANT IT TO BE HEARD TONIGHT? I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE HEARD TONIGHT, PLEASE. OKAY. CAN I ASK, I CAN BE HEARD THIS IS MARY REED ON, UM, THE TORCH STREET PROPERTY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE HEARD AS WELL STAFF, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND LET MARY STAY ON THE LINE? I THINK SHE COULD EITHER SPEAK NOW REGARDING THE CASE. OKAY. WELL, IF WE WANTED TO KEEP IT ON FOR DISCUSSION, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER POSSIBILITY WHERE SHE COULD ADDRESS THE CASE. MARY, DID YOU HEAR THAT? I COULDN'T REALLY, I'M NOT HEARING THINGS VERY WELL. THE APPLICANT IS NOT ON THE LINE, SO WE WERE GOING TO PUT IT ON THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA. ANYWAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT? YES, I WOULD. YEAH. I SPEAK NOW. GO AHEAD. OKAY. SO, UM, I'M, MY NAME IS MARY REED. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE CLARKSVILLE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. WE'RE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION FOR HISTORIC CLARKSVILLE, WHICH IS WHERE 1104 WEST STREET LOCATED 1,104 TORRES, UH, IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE TO OUR NRH DAY. AND, UM, IT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE MOST HISTORICALLY ICONIC, UH, PROPERTIES IN CLARKSVILLE, THE SWEET BAPTIST CHURCH. AND IT HAS THE GUY, A HOSPITAL HOUSE. UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR A POSTPONEMENT BECAUSE LAST TUESDAY, UH, TO CCDC MEMBERS, BOARD MEMBERS, AND I MET WITH LOUISA GOSA WITH PARTIES AND HOMES. UH, OUR GOAL WAS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THERE WAS ANY WAY THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY SAVE, UH, 1104 FOR BEING, UH, DEMOLISHED, WHICH IS WHAT PARADISE HILL HOMES HAS ASKED TO DO GIVEN THE SYDNEY HISTORICALLY, BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING A HOUSE, OUR MEETING WAS VERY CORDIAL AND ALTHOUGH WE SYNDICATED AT PARADISE, IT WAS NOT INTERESTED IN IT AS RESTORING 1104, WHICH WE UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE 30 IS THE HOMES IS A BUILDER, NOT A RESTORATION COMPANY. UM, WE CONTINUED TALKING AND KIND OF THROWING OUT DIFFERENT IDEAS AND, UM, EVENTUALLY PARODY DIESEL HOMES, OR AT LEAST LOUISA LOUISE. UH, THERE A GHOST SAID, DON'T, WE MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN SAVING THE FRONT AND SIDES OF THE HOUSE, WHATEVER, HOWEVER MUCH WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY IN ORDER TO KEEP IT, UH, CONTRIBUTING. AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, AND SO YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD REACH, ACHIEVE YOUR GOAL AND WE WOULD ACHIEVE OUR GOAL BECAUSE THEN WE'D BE ABLE TO GO ON AND BUILD AND BUILD UP AND EVERYTHING. LET ME INTERRUPT YOU. UH, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST VOTING NOW ON WHETHER YOU PUT THIS ON OUR AGENDA, NOT TO HEAR THE CASE. I'M WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THIS IS A POSTPONEMENT BECAUSE IT'S WEDNESDAY, [00:15:01] THIS COMING WEDNESDAY AFTER THE OUTCOME OF THIS CONVERSATION, UH, WAS THAT OUR, UM, THE ATTORNEY, THE ARCHITECT ON OUR BOARD, AUDREY CARTER, UH, AT LOUISA SUGGESTION SAID, WHY DON'T YOU COME AND TALK TO OTHER PARTIES, THE HOME STAFF, INCLUDING ITS IN-HOUSE ARCHITECTS ABOUT YOUR IDEA. AND SO, UH, SO HE'S GONNA MEET WITH THEM ON WEDNESDAY. SO IT MAKES SENSE TO DELAY ANY KIND OF RELEASE OF, UH, IN OUR MINDS ANYWAY. AND THEY WILL RELEASE OF, UH, DEMO PERMIT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE WE WILL END UP KEEPING THE HOUSE MAY END UP MEANING THAT THERE'S A PARTIAL DEMO, NOT A FULL DEMO. WE WILL KEEP THE HOUSE CONTRIBUTING, WHICH IS WHAT OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS. OKAY. SO THEN RIGHT NOW, UM, FOR OUR POSTPONEMENT AGENDA, UM, WE HAVE SEEN NINE 1104 20TH STREET AND D 10 47 14 ROOMINESS STREET, WHICH IS AN APPLICANT REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT. UM, ITEM D FIVE WILL REMAIN AS A DISCUSSION ITEM. UM, THAT'S TITLE THREE AND STANDING THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT PART OF THE AGENDA. UH, DO I HEAR A MOTION, UM, TO APPROVE THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA FOR SEEING NINE ON 20TH STREET AND D 10 ON ROWENA STREET, SOMEONE SOME LIVE, UH, COMMISSIONER STAFF MOVED AND MISSIONER COOK SECONDED, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND ANY OPPOSED. OKAY. IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THOSE ITEMS WILL BE POSTPONED TO OUR NEXT MEETING AND TO BE CLEAR FOR THOSE LISTENING IN THE NEXT MEETING IS ON APRIL 26 ON MONDAY AT 6:00 PM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BYE. OKAY. BYE-BYE THEN FOR OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS, UM, WE WILL HEAR FROM THE SPEAKERS IN THE ORDER THAT THEY'RE LISTED ON OUR AGENDA, MADAM CHAIR, BEFORE WE MOVE TO DISCUSSION ITEMS, COULD WE GO THROUGH THE THREE BRIEFINGS TO THE WEDGE? WE HAVE THREE BRIEFINGS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. GO THROUGH THOSE BEFORE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. SORRY. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'VE GOT KARA BERTRAN IS ON THE LINE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE TRANSLATING COMMUNITY [2.A. Presentation on the Translating Community History project.] HISTORY PROJECT. OKAY. SARAH, ARE YOU THERE? HI COMMISSIONERS. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, GREAT. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DELAY WITH UNMUTING. I'M SO PLEASED TO BE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT. UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UH, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT A PROJECT FUNDED BY A NATIONAL PARK SERVICE UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES GRANT THAT WE'VE JUST WRAPPED UP. UM, THOSE WITH YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP. YES. OKAY, WONDERFUL. CAN YOU GO TO THIS SLIDE TWO PLEASE? SO THE GOAL OF THE GRANT WAS, IS TO INCREASE LISTINGS ASSOCIATED WITH COMMUNITIES THAT ARE UNDERREPRESENTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER. WE WERE AWARDED FUNDING IN LATE 2017, UH, THAT YEAR 13 PROJECTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UM, WERE AWARDED A TOTAL OF $500,000. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO IT'S BEEN VERY COMPETITIVE. WE WERE VERY EXCITED TO GET, GET THE GRANT. OUR PROJECTS FOCUSED ON EAST AUSTIN. AS YOU KNOW, THIS AREA HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN HOME TO AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND MEXICAN, MEXICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES, PEOPLE WHO ARE UNDERREPRESENTED IN HISTORIC LANDMARKS, HISTORIC DISTRICTS, AND NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS. THIS MAP AS NOTED AS FROM 2017 WHEN THE GRANT WAS AWARDED, UM, WE, WE NOW HAVE A COUPLE MORE LOCAL DISTRICTS IN EAST AUSTIN AND A FEW MORE LANDMARKS. OUR APPLICATION REALLY EMPHASIZED THE EAST AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY, WHICH WAS COMPLETED THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND IT IDENTIFIED A WEALTH OF POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCES IN CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN, UM, WITH NOT, NOT A TON OF FOLLOW-UP AT THE TIME. NEXT SLIDE. SO OUR PROJECT HAD A FEW GOALS. MOST OF WHICH WERE FOCUSED ON HOW WE COULD REACH OUT TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS. UM, MOST OF WHOM MAY NOT HAVE PRESERVATION AS A, AS A TOP PRIORITY AND HOW WE COULD TALK ABOUT PRESERVATION TOOLS IN A WAY THAT WAS RELEVANT TO THEIR PRIORITIES. WE KNEW NATIONAL REGISTER LISTS [00:20:01] AND WOULD NEED TO BE AN OUTCOME, A CONDITION OF THE GRANT. AND WE HOPED THAT THE NOMINATIONS WOULD GIVE NEIGHBORHOODS A HEADSTART IN COMPILING APPLICATIONS FOR LOCALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICTS. NEXT SLIDE. SO OUR PROJECT HAD THREE PARTS, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, HERITAGE PROJECTS, AND NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS. NEXT SLIDE. I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE, UM, BRIEFLY NOW. SO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS THE FOUNDATION OF THE PROJECT. WE KNEW THAT WE AS CITY STAFF COULDN'T DO HIGHLY EFFECTIVE ENGAGEMENT ON OUR OWN. UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST NOT, WE'RE JUST NOT PART OF THOSE COMMUNITIES. UM, AND THERE'S LONGSTANDING, UM, ISSUES OF, OF TRUST WITH BETWEEN THE CITY AND IN MANY FOLKS IN EAST AUSTIN. UH, SO WE, BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ENLISTED A BROAD RANGE OF PARTNERS IN TOOTH COMMUNITY, STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS MET SIX TIMES OVER ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF TO HELP SHAPE THE PROJECT IN SOME REALLY FUNDAMENTAL WAYS. THEY SELECTED THE TWO FOCUS AREAS, ONE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AFRICAN-AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD AND ONE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT MEXICAN-AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY PROVIDED EARLY FEEDBACK ON OUTREACH MATERIALS. THEY OUTLINE THE SCOPE FOR THE HERITAGE PROJECT, AND THEY ADVISED US ON ENGAGEMENT STRATEGIES TO THE BROADER FOCUS AREAS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. NEXT SLIDE. SO WAS A PHOTO OF THE FINAL MEETING OF THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, WHICH WAS A JOINT MEETING LAST MARCH, WHERE THE GROUPS MET WITH THE HERITAGE PROJECT CONSULTANTS, WHO EXPLAINED WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING NEXT SLIDE, UH, THREE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND EACH FOCUS AREA IN SUMMER AND FALL OF 2019, BUT SIX MEETINGS TOTAL MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE ATTENDED THE MEETINGS. HOUSTON TILLOTSON WAS VERY GENEROUS AND LETTING US USE CAMPUS SPACES FOR THE COLLEGE HEIGHTS MEETINGS WHILE SOUTHEAST AUSTIN MEETINGS NEXT COULD THE MEXICAN-AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY WERE HELD IN CENTRAL HEALTH AND THE THERESE BRANCH LIBRARY, BOTH RIGHT NEXT TO THE FOCUS AREA ON EAST CESAR CHAVEZ. ONE OF THE BEST PARTS OF THE MEETINGS WERE STORIES FROM LONGTIME RESIDENTS THAT OPENED THE FIRST TWO MEETINGS AND MADE IT ALMOST ALL OF THE THIRD MEETING. IT WAS VERY COOL BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE, AS STAFF DIDN'T NEED TO TELL PEOPLE HOW IMPORTANT THESE PLACES WERE OR WHY THEY WERE IMPORTANT. THEY ALREADY KNEW. AND THEY, THEY BROUGHT THESE REALLY RICH STORIES TO ILLUSTRATE THAT IMPORTANCE BY PRESERVATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO FOR EACH FOCUS AREA, WE CREATED A LARGE TIMELINE AND A MAP THAT WERE BROUGHT TO ALL THREE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. PEOPLE WERE ENCOURAGED TO WRITE BITS OF PERSONAL HISTORY ON STICKY NOTES AND TO ADD THOSE TO THE TIMELINES. AND WE INVITED A COMMUNITY ARCHIVIST AND THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER TO BE AT ALL THE MEETINGS TO RECORD ORAL HISTORIES THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO SHARE. AND ALSO JUST TO TALK ABOUT, OR TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THEIR PROGRAMS, IF PEOPLE WEREN'T READY TO SHARE RIGHT THEN, BUT COULD GET IN TOUCH LATER. UM, I WANT TO GIVE SOME BIG KUDOS HERE TO, UH, STEVE SADECKI AND KELLEN CONTRAREZ WHO RESEARCHED AND WROTE THE FOCUS AREA HISTORIES. THEY PULLED OUT ESSENTIAL INFORMATION FOR THESE TIMELINES AND THEY PROVIDED SUMMARIES OF THESE AREA HISTORIES, THAT MEETINGS, THEY DID A LOT OF REALLY IMPORTANT GROUNDWORK THAT HELPED US GO IN KNOWING WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. NEXT SLIDE, I TEACH PROJECTS WHERE THE SECOND PART OF TRANSLATING COMMUNITY HISTORY AND THE GOAL HERE WAS TO KNIT TOGETHER THE PAST AND THE PRESENT IN A COMPELLING WAY, UH, CONNECTING ARCHIVAL RESEARCH AND PHOTOS AND STUFF THAT WE'RE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH IS PRESERVATIONISTS, UM, WITH PEOPLE'S LIVES AND THEIR STORIES TODAY. SO BASICALLY WE, WE KNEW THAT MOST PEOPLE WERE NOT GOING TO SIT DOWN AND READ A 70 PAGE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION. AND WE WANTED TO, TO, UH, FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK AT, WHAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO THEM. SO WE HIRED A TEAM OF TWO TEAMS OF LOCAL ARTISTS, THE PROJECTO AND OPEN CHAIR, UH, WHO PHOTOGRAPHED AND SPOKE WITH LONG-TIME LOCAL RESIDENTS OF BOTH FOCUS AREAS. AND THIS COOL THING WAS THAT THIS CONTINUED AND EXTENDED AN EXISTING PROJECT THAT THEY WERE ALREADY WORKING ON AROUND LOCAL HERITAGE OF BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO THE ARTISTS USE THESE, UH, PORTRAITS THAT THEY TOOK ON PUBLIC BANNERS AND EAST AUSTIN, INVITING PEOPLE TO CHECK OUT THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO, WHO AREN'T REGULARLY CHECKING THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE WEBSITE, THEY COULD, THIS IS A DIFFERENT WAY OF INVITING FOLKS TO BECOME ENGAGED NEXT SLIDE. AND THEY ALSO CREATED TWO CATALOGS THAT INCLUDED PORTRAITS STORIES, HISTORIC PHOTOS, AND HISTORIC NARRATIVES. THIS IS A SPREAD FROM THE COLLEGE HEIGHTS AFRICAN-AMERICAN HERITAGE CATALOG. COLLEGE HEIGHTS IS I'LL SHOW YOU A MAP IN A MINUTE, BUT IT'S, IT'S JUST, UM, PART OF THE BLACK SHEER PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD, JUST NORTHEAST OF HOUSTON TILLOTSON. [00:25:02] NEXT SLIDE. UM, AND THIS IS SPREAD FROM THE SOUTHEAST AUSTIN MEXICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE CATALOG. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A REAL DIVERSITY OF SOURCES, UM, AND A REAL WEALTH OF INFORMATION IN A COOL AND INVITING NEXT SLIDE. FINALLY, THE ARTIST DEVELOPED TWO SHORT VIDEOS WITH A BIT OF PROJECT INFORMATION AND THE VOICES OF LONG-TIME RESIDENTS TALKING ABOUT MEMORY AND CHANGE. IT'S ALL STUNNING AND IMPORTANT WORK. AND I HOPE YOU'LL CHECK EVERYTHING OUT ON THE PROJECT WEBSITE, WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING AND ALSO LISTED HERE, AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV FORWARD SLASH PAGE FORWARD SLASH CURRENT DASH PROJECTS. IT'S REALLY, REALLY INCREDIBLE WORK. OKAY. NEXT SLIDE. SO HERE'S A CLOSER LOOK AT THE FOCUS AREAS. THEY'RE OVERLAID ON A MAP OF RECOMMENDED HISTORIC DISTRICTS FROM THE EAST AUSTIN SURVEY STAFF. WE PUT TOGETHER A SHORT LIST OF POTENTIAL FOCUS AREAS IN COLLABORATION WITH TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION STAFF FROM THE 24 RECOMMENDED DISTRICTS. AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, THE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER GROUPS SELECTED THE FINAL FOCUS AREAS FROM THAT LIST. SO THESE AREAS ARE WHERE WE FOCUSED OUTREACH HELD NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND DID INITIAL HISTORIC RESEARCH. AND YOU CAN READ MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THESE AREAS AND THE HERITAGE PROJECT CATALOG ONLINE, NEXT SLIDE. SO THAT'S IT. WE ENDED UP COMPLETING NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SITES WITH SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS. THE GRANT REQUIRED 100% WRITTEN SUPPORT FROM ALL PROPERTY OWNERS, WHICH WE KNEW WOULD BE A STRETCH. SO WE SHIFTED FROM NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICTS TO INDIVIDUAL NATIONAL REGISTER LISTINGS, UM, UH, PROMINENT SITES OWNED BY SUPPORTIVE PARTNERS, HOUSTON TILLOTSON, AND, UM, PANCAKES THAT ARE GOSA NEXT SLIDE, HOUSTON TILLOTSON UNIVERSITY IS AUSTIN OLDER OLDEST INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING. UH, SHE MAY KNOW, BUT MAY NOT KNOW IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1875. AND, UH, OUR ONLY HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT PIERCE BURNETT HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. AND WE'VE BEEN REALLY LUCKY TO PARTNER WITH THEM, UM, FROM THE BEGINNING. NEXT SLIDE TALK THAT IT GOES TO IS, IS ONE OF THE HEARTS OF THE MEXICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. UH, IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1931 AFTER MEXICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY LEADERS HAVE BEEN PETITIONING THE CITY FOR YEARS, AND IT'S SERVED THE COMMUNITY EVER SINCE WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS REALLY LEADING THE WAY AND CHAMPIONING IT, CHAMPIONING IT AND MAINTAINING IT NEXT SLIDE. UM, AND THAT'S IT FOR MY FORMAL PRESENTATION. I HOPE YOU WILL CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE AGAIN. UM, IT IS QUITE WONDERFUL AND YOU CAN ALSO READ THE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS, UM, ON THE, ON THE WEBSITE, WE, WE WILL BE SUBMITTING THOSE FORMALLY TO THE PARK SERVICE, UH, FOR REVIEW BY THEIR GRANTS DIVISION IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO WITH OUR FINAL GRANT REPORTS. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL BE SUBMITTING THEM TO THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO GO THROUGH THE REGULAR LISTING PROCESS. UM, YEAH. THANK YOU. ANY NEW QUESTIONS? WHAT A GREAT PROJECT, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO US. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT THE COMMISSION CAN DO TO SUPPORT YOU? NOT, I THINK NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT WHAT, WHAT WAS REALLY EXCITING ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THAT IT GAVE US A CHANCE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, YOU KNOW, AND HOW WE WERE TALKING TO PEOPLE AND HOW WE WERE COLLECTING STORIES. SO I THINK, UM, IN THE FUTURE, THINKING ABOUT, ABOUT, UM, WHAT MIGHT GET FUNDED IN A, IN A LESS BUDGET STRAPPED YEAR, THIS MAY BE AN INTERESTING MODEL TO CONSIDER, UM, YOU KNOW, CHAMPIONING AS, AS, UH, A MORE CONSISTENT INITIATIVE OR PROGRAM, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IT BECAUSE WE HAD THIS GRANT, BUT WE USUALLY DON'T HAVE RESOURCES FOR THIS FIRST KIND OF THING. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING BACK. UH, AND SPEAKING TO THE OLD GAME, TARA, THAT WAS MY PLEASURE. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. WE'LL CHECK OUT YOUR WEBSITE. DO WE HAVE, UH, A [2.B. Presentation on recently completed historic resource surveys: Historic Resources Survey for Old Austin Neighborhood Association (2020) Historic Building Survey Report for North Central Austin: West Campus, North University, Heritage, Bryker Woods, and North Hyde Park (2021)] PRESENTATION ON THE RECENTLY COMPLETED HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEYS? HEY, ANDREW, WHAT DO YOU MEAN COMMISSIONERS? SORRY. UM, LEARNING HOW TO UNMUTE MYSELF. UH, MY NAME IS ANDREW RICE. I'M WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, AND I WILL BE PRESENTING THE RESULTS OF THE DOWNTOWN AND NORTH CENTRAL HISTORIC RESOURCES [00:30:01] SURVEYS. UM, AND I WILL BEGIN TO SHARE MY SCREEN. UH, SO FIRST I'LL BEGIN WITH THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC RESOURCES SURVEY COMPLETED BY HARDY MORE INCORPORATED, A AUSTIN BASED CONSULTING FIRM. UH, HERE'S A GENERAL TIMELINE OF THE SURVEY. UM, THE OLD AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, ALONG WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN RECEIVED A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT GRANT FROM THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION. ADDITIONALLY, THE OLD AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RECEIVED FUNDING FROM PRESERVATION, AUSTIN AND PRIVATE DONORS. VOLUNTEERS AIDED IN THE RESEARCH EFFORTS AND HHM PROVIDED PRO BONO VAPOR. UH, HERE ARE THE SURVEY BOUNDARIES FOR THE DOWNTOWN SURVEY, UM, BOUNDED BY THE NORTH SIDE, UM, ON 15TH STREET, NORTH OF MAREN SHOAL CREEK ON THE WEST SIDE, FOURTH AND FIFTH STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND COLORADO STREET TO THE EAST. UH, THE OBJECTIVES OF THIS SURVEY WAS TO LOCATE, IDENTIFY AND PHOTOGRAPH POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE BUILDINGS, STRUCTURES, SITES, LANDSCAPES, AND OBJECTS, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL AS WELL AS POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS WITHIN THE SURVEY AREA. ADDITIONALLY, TO INCLUDE BOTH POTENTIAL LOCAL DESIGNATION RECOMMENDATIONS AND POTENTIAL NATIONAL REGISTER AS A NATION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THE SURVEY EFFORTS WERE COMPREHENSIVE AND DOCUMENTED ALL RESOURCES, REGARDLESS OF CONSTRUCTION DATE. UM, THE ELIGIBILITY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR INDIVIDUALLY RECOMMENDED PROPERTIES. UM, UH, THEY, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS DO NOT CHANGE ZONING OR INITIATE REZONING PROCESSES, UM, AND ALL APPLICATIONS FOR HISTORIC ZONING WILL BE SUBJECT TO FURTHER RESEARCH BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE AND HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION. JARED, THE RESULTS OF THE DOWNTOWN SURVEY, UH, THE SOTO RESULTED IN 132 INDIVIDUAL RESOURCES RECOMMENDED FOR NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, DESIGNATION, UH, 65 RESOURCES RECOMMENDED FOR LOCAL DESIGNATION. THERE'S, THERE'S ONE MISSING FROM THIS LIST THAT WAS, UH, LATER, UH, FOUND, UH, AS WELL AS TWO HISTORIC DISTRICT RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, THE BRENDAN BLOCK HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THE DOWNTOWN, I'M SORRY, THE WEST DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT. UH, AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS AND DO NOT AFFECT THE ZONING OF PAY AREA SURVEYS. OKAY. HERE'S THE, UH, RECOMMENDED HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UM, AREA OUTLINED BY RED AND GREEN LINES OUTLINED THE RECOMMENDED DOWNTOWN WEST DOWNTOWN AND RHD AND LHD, UH, AND THE, UH, AREA IDENTIFIED BY THE TEAL AND GREEN LINES, UH, OUTLINED THE RECOMMENDED PRE-MED RECOMMENDED BRAMAN BLOCKS AND RHD AND LHD IN THE AREAS OUTLINED IN BLUE ARE EXISTING, UH, ENTER HD BOUNDARIES. UH, THE SURVEYS CAN BE USED IN, UH, IN MANY WAYS. UM, CITY STAFF WILL USE THESE LOOSER, THESE SURVEYS TO RESEARCH, UM, PROPERTIES AS THEY ARE APPLIED FOR, UH, THROUGH VARIOUS PERMITS. UH, THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO USE THESE SURVEYS, UM, AS A, UH, A TOOL TO APPLY FOR LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UM, USING THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL SURVEY FORMS SUPPLIED BY HHM, UH, OR TO SIMPLY MAKE MORE INFORMED DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS. THE SURVEY WILL BE AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. UM, AND, UH, AS SOON AS THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER REOPENS A FESTIVAL COPY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO BE VIEWED THERE AS WELL. SO I'LL JUST CONTINUE ON TO THE NEXT SURVEY, WHICH IS THE NORTH CENTRAL AUSTIN SURVEY. UM, ALSO COMPLETED BY HARDY HAD, UH, ALREADY HAVE MORE, THIS SURVEY WAS FUNDED BY HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUNDS, UM, AND ALSO USED HHM TO COMPLETE THE FIELD WORK PORTION AND RESEARCH, UM, PORTION OF THE SURVEY IN ORDER TO PROMOTE HERITAGE TOURISM AND HELPS [00:35:01] TO, UH, THE SURVEY BOUNDARIES ARE, UH, MADE UP OF VARIOUS, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING AREAS, UH, INCLUDING HYDE PARK, HANCOCK PARTS OF NORTH AND WEST UNIVERSITY AND THE NORTHERN SECTION OF WINDSOR ROAD. AGAIN, THE OBJECTIVES WERE TO LOCATE, IDENTIFY AND PHOTOGRAPH POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE BUILDINGS, STRUCTURES, SITES, LANDSCAPES, AND OBJECTS, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS WITH THE SURVEY AREA. UM, THE SURVEY, UH, EFFORTS WERE CONCENTRATED ON RESOURCES BUILT PRIOR TO 1974, DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE SURVEY AREA, UH, INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY RESEARCH, AS WELL AS BROADER HISTORICAL CONTEXT WERE PRODUCED BY THE SURVEY. AND AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR ELIGIBILITY DOES NOT AFFECT ZONING CHANGE OR INITIATE REZONING PROCESSES. AND ALL APPLICATIONS WILL BE UNDER FURTHER RESEARCH INTERVIEWED BY HISTORY BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE. AND WE'LL START WITH THAT MARK CONDITION. UH, SO THIS IS THE RESULTS OF THE PRIMARY RESOURCES FOR NATIONAL REGISTER ELIGIBILITY. UM, OUT OF 3061 RESOURCES SURVEYED, UH, 2,530 WERE PRIMARY RESOURCES AND OF THOSE PRIMARY RESOURCES, 2,129 ARE LOCATED WITHIN POTENTIAL NRH DS. UH, JUST OVER 58% OF THE TOTAL PRIMARY RESOURCES SURVEY WERE RECOMMENDED CONTRIBUTING TO A POTENTIAL MARRIAGE DEED DISTRICTS. UH, ADDITIONALLY, UH, 531 SECONDARY RESOURCES WERE SURVEYED WITH 450. ONE OF THEM BEING RECOMMENDED CONTRIBUTING TO A POTENTIAL NR DISTRICT. I HEAR THE LOCAL ELIGIBILITY RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS WERE SIMILAR WITH 2,129 PRIMARY RESOURCES FALLING WITHIN A POTENTIAL LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. UM, W WHAT WAS THE WORD DISTRICTS DO NOT INCLUDE SECONDARY RESOURCES, WHICH IS WHY THEY WERE NOT, UH, THERE WERE 11 POTENTIAL, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICTS FOUND, UH, IN, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. I WON'T LIST THEM. UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, THE, THE LAYOUT OF THE POTENTIAL DISTRICTS, MANY OF WHICH OVERLAPPING WITH EXISTING LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS SURVEY, UM, AS PART OF THE FUNDING, UM, INVOLVED HERITAGE TOWARD HERITAGE TOURISM RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, POTENTIAL HERITAGE TOURISM SITES WERE GAUGED BY THE RELATIONSHIP TO TOURISM IN TAGS IDENTIFIED BY VISIT AUSTIN. AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE HERE. UM, ADDITIONALLY, UM, CIVIL IN THE, TO THE DOWNTOWN SURVEY, UM, THAT'S CERTAINLY WILL BE USED BY CITY STAFF AS A RESEARCH TOOL, UH, BY THE COMMUNITY AS A TOOL TO INITIATE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS, IF REQUESTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND FOR GENERAL INFORMATION GATHERING TOOLS FOR LAND DEVELOPERS, HISTORIANS, OR ANYONE INTERESTED IN AUSTIN'S DEVELOPMENT WORK HISTORY. AND AGAIN, THIS SURVEY WILL BE ABLE TO BE FOUND ON OUR WEBSITE AS WELL AS IN THE HISTORY CENTER, ONCE IT IS REOPENED AFTER COVID. UM, UH, SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, ALSO, UH, EMILY PAINE IS ON THE LINE WITH HHM TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UH, JUST IN CASE IF THERE'S ANY SURVEY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE, ANDREW, THIS IS CONDITIONER MYERS, WHAT'S THE STATUS, THE NORTH CENTRAL SURVEY DONE BY CUPS, UH, THAT, UH, THAT SURVEY IS STILL, UM, PENDING, UM, UH, HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, WITH THE, THE CONTRACTS, UM, THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION BETWEEN, UM, CONSTANT MCCLAIN AND THE CITY OF BOSTON ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITH THE REMAINING PORTIONS OF THAT SURVEY. UM, SO THE DEADLINE IS NOT CLEAR AT THIS TIME, UM, BUT WE HOPE TO HAVE A CLEAR PATH AND THEN THE FOLLOWING MONTH. OKAY, THANK YOU. I, I SHOULD ADD THAT THAT'S, THAT'S HELD UP ON OUR END. UH, COX MCCLAIN HAS DONE EVERYTHING VERY SATISFACTORILY TO HOLD UP THEIR END OF THE CONTRACT. SO WE, UM, UH, THERE WAS JUST [00:40:01] A MINOR ADDITION THAT WE WERE HOPING TO DO, UM, TO THEIR SCOPE OF SERVICES, AND WE'RE HOPING TO WORK FOR BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. UM, SO WE DO HOPE TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT PROJECT TO YOU WITH A SIMILAR PRESENTATION SOON COMMISSIONER. YES, ANDREW, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE WITH LIMITED TIME YOU JUST GIVE US AN OVERVIEW. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE AWARE, BUT ABOUT, GOSH, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN A YEAR NOW, OR MAYBE, UH, UH, AT THE END OF THE SUMMER, WE ASKED FOR AN INVENTORY IN THE CENTRAL AUSTIN OF A, UM, ANALYSIS THAT WOULD GIVE US THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE HISTORIC, BUT ON, UM, VERY PERMISSIVE ZONING DISTRICTS OR WITHIN VERY PERMISSIVE ZONING, UH, UM, DESIGNATIONS WITH THE INTENT OF, OF INDICATING A HIGH LEVEL OF POTENTIAL RISK FOR THOSE PROPERTIES. HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO DIRECT SOME OF THAT INFORMATION? UH, I KNOW THIS, THESE SURVEYS WERE ONGOING AND IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU ADDRESS, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE A RATHER CRITICAL PIECE OF INFORMATION. THIS WOULD, MIGHT BE AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO START INTEGRATING THAT. ABSOLUTELY. AND, UH, WE, OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN, UM, EVALUATING THAT AND, UH, WITH FAIRBAIRN BERJON REALLY LEADING THAT EFFORT TO, TO ANALYZE, UM, UH, THOSE KINDS OF SENSITIVE AREAS, UM, SINCE HER LEAVING OUR OFFICE, UM, THAT HAS STALLED OUT, BUT IT IS DEFINITELY STILL HER. YEAH, WELL, I GUESS IT WAS A GOOD EFFORT AND IT WAS JUST THE BEGINNING WITH, WHILE WE'RE FOCUSING SO MUCH ON THE STATUS OF THESE PROPERTIES, UM, THE, THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE LAND THEY'RE SITTING ON IS GOING TO BE, UH, I, I'M RATHER CERTAIN AS IMPORTANT IF NOT MORE SO THAN JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE AND SOME OF THESE CASES, UH, AND, UH, AND, AND YOU, AND I CAN FOLLOW UP, UH, WITH THE, UH, PRONUNCIATION OF THE VERMONT BLOCK. THEY'RE MUN BLACK. ALL RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS, COMMISSIONER CHECK. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR ALL THEIR GOOD WORK ON THIS. SEEING THESE SURVEYS COME IN AND REALLY FLESH OUT THE, THE SURVEY WORK THAT THAT'S BEEN NEEDED IN THE CITY IS GREAT TO SEE, AND THAT WITH THE HISTORIC CITY-WIDE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, COUPLED TOGETHER REALLY FOR THE FUTURE OF LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS JUST LEAVES, UH, FOR, FOR NEIGHBORS TO GET THE WILL AND GET THE PEOPLE ON BOARD. THE HARD WORK IS REALLY, REALLY DONE. THE TOOLS ARE THERE THERE'S SO MUCH, SO MANY MORE TOOLS TO LEVERAGE. NOW. I REALLY ENCOURAGE THE PRESERVATION COMMUNITY TO GET OUT THERE AND START WORKING ON MORE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS. ANYONE ELSE? WELL, THANK YOU, ANDREW. THANKS FOR THIS. AND, UM, THANKS TO EMILY. PAYNE IS, UH, ON THE LINE. UM, IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF GOOD WORK. A LOT OF HARD WORK WENT INTO THIS, AND WE WILL APPRECIATE THIS, UM, IN THE COMING MONTHS AND YEARS AS WE GONE HERE. UM, IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, UH, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION [2.C. Presentation, discussion, and possible action to seek a recommendation to City Council for the Parks and Recreation Department’s preferred design scenario for the Dougherty Arts Center Replacement Project.] AND DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION, UM, FOR RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL ON PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENTS, PREFERRED DESIGN FOR THE DOHERTY ARTS REPLACEMENT PROJECT. DO WE HAVE SOMEONE TO SPEAK ON THAT KEVIN JOHNSON OR JONATHAN PEARSON ON THE LINE? PRESENTLY, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD EVENING TO THE COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS KEVIN JOHNSON. I'M A PROJECT MANAGEMENT SUPERVISOR WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUE FROM STUDIO ARCHITECTS, JONATHAN PEARSON. UM, I DID WANT TO START AS WE WAIT FOR THE PRESENTATION TO COME UP ON SCREEN, JUST TO, UM, MENTION THAT THIS IS THE PRESENTATION WE'VE TAKEN TO A HANDFUL OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SO FAR. AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE INTEREST, UH, FROM THIS COMMISSION WILL BE FOCUSED ON ONE MORE SPECIFIC ASPECT OF THE PROJECT. SO WE AIM TO MOVE PRETTY QUICKLY THROUGH THE MATERIAL, BUT ARE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME UP. UM, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE UNFAMILIAR UNFAMILIAR WITH THE HISTORY OF THE JORDY ARTS CENTER, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS LONG BEEN SEEKING A NEW HOME FOR THIS FACILITY. UM, FOR MULTIPLE REASONS, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, OUR DEPARTMENT COMPLETED A FEASIBILITY STUDY AND PLANNING PHASE THAT EXPLORED MOVING THE DECK ABOUT A HALF MILE AWAY ACROSS LAMAR BOULEVARD TO BUTLER SHORES. AND FOLLOWING THAT PROCESS. AND IN SPRING OF 2019 CITY COUNCIL APPROVED OUR DEPARTMENT TO PROCEED, UH, WITH THE RELOCATION. BUT WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO STUDY A FEW ADDITIONAL ASPECTS OF THIS PROJECT [00:45:01] BEFORE PROCEEDING INTO ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. AND THOSE REQUESTS HAD TO DO WITH THE BUILDINGS PLACEMENT ON THE SITE AND THE WAY THAT VEHICLES AND PEOPLE ACCESS THE SITE. SO THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS GEARED TOWARD HOW OUR PROJECT TEAM, UM, ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS. AND IN RESPONSE, WE'VE DEVELOPED A SERIES OF DESIGN SCENARIOS, WHICH WE'LL EXPLAIN AS WE GET THERE, BUT OF THE MOST INTEREST TO THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION IS THAT THIS PROJECT SITE IS VERY NEAR THE EXISTING PART MAIN OFFICE. AND SOME OF THE ALTERNATIVES THAT COUNCIL ASKED US TO EXPLORE WERE GEARED TOWARD POTENTIALLY REPURPOSING OR REMOVING THIS EXISTING BUILDING FROM THE SITE. UM, SO WE WANTED TO BRING IT IN FRONT OF YOU AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK, AND WE'LL GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN WORK IT'S BEEN COMPLETED TO DATE. UM, BUT WITH THAT IN MIND, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE OVERVIEW PRETTY QUICK, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO STAY FOCUSED ON, ON THE PURVIEW OF THIS TEAM. UH, SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I WANT TO MENTION THIS PROJECT REMAINS IN A PRELIMINARY STATE, UM, BUT FOLLOWING APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL WHO WE PLAN TO GO BACK TO IN LATE APRIL, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH A SCHEMATIC ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL, UM, PUBLIC INPUT AT THAT POINT. UM, SO OUR PART TEAM DOES HAVE A PREFERRED SCENARIO THAT YOU'LL SEE, AND IF THE COMMISSION FELT COMPELLED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF SUPPORT OR A STATEMENT ABOUT ANY OF THE PRINCIPLES OF THE PROJECT, WE WOULD CERTAINLY WELCOME THAT AS WE HAD TO COUNSEL IN LATE APRIL. SO I BELIEVE YOU'RE SEEING THE SITE MAPPING CONTEXT SLIDE. IT SHOWS THE EXISTING AND PRO AND A NEW SITE FOR THE DOOR TO THE ART CENTER ON THEIR SHORES. UM, THE PROJECT AREA IS REALLY THE CENTER OF THIS SITE, THE TWO BALL FIELDS THAT ARE ORIENTED IN THE NORTHEAST DIRECTION. AND FOR THOSE UNFAMILIAR, THE PARDON MAIN OFFICE, IT'S RIGHT UNDER THE WORD PROPOSED ON THIS MAP. UM, JUST SOUTH OF THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE RIGHT AWAY. WE ALSO HAVE THE ZACK THEATER COMPLEX ANCHORING THE EAST END OF THE SITE. AND WE'RE EXCITED FOR THE PARTNERING OPPORTUNITIES THAT COME WITH BOTH OF THESE CULTURAL ARTS FACILITIES, SIDEBAR, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AS I MENTIONED, AND THE, UH, PREVIOUS COUNCIL DIRECTION CAME IN SPRING OF 2019 AND THE, UM, THE SITE WAS APPROVED FOR US TO STUDY FURTHER. AND THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE WERE ASKED ARE ENUMERATED HERE, ONE THROUGH THREE, AND THESE, THESE ONE THROUGH THREE, IT'S KIND OF ALIGNED WITH THE OPTIONS THAT JONATHAN WILL WALK YOU IN JUST A MINUTE, BUT, UM, TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW, THERE ARE TWO SCENARIOS FOR OPTION ONE IN WHICH THE NEW DOHERTY ARTS CENTER AND THE EXISTING PART MAIN OFFICE WOULD REMAIN ON SITE AS IT IS TODAY WITH AN ALLOWANCE FOR POSSIBLE RENOVATION OR EXPANSION IN THE FUTURE. THE SECOND SCENARIO WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT WAS THAT THE PARDON MAIN OFFICE WOULD BE DEMOLISHED AND RECONSTRUCTED AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT, ALONG WITH THE NEW DOOR ARTS CENTER TO CREATE KIND OF A PART OF CAMPUS WITH THESE TWO FACILITIES. UM, THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT FUNDED FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW MAIN OFFICE. AND THE THIRD SCENARIO IS THAT THERE WOULD BE A NEW, DIRTY ARTS CONSTRUCTED ON SITE, BUT THAT THE PART MAIN OFFICE WOULD BE REMOVED OR RELOCATED TO AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SITE, UM, WHICH WOULD FREE UP THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT FOR, UM, THE DECK FACILITY TO OCCUPY. THERE WERE SOME OTHER, UM, ASPECTS THAT COUNCIL WANTED US TO LOOK INTO, INCLUDING PROVIDING A PARKING SOLUTION THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT ALSO BY CONSOLIDATING SOME SURFACE PARKING ON THIS SLOT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. OKAY. SO SPEAKING TO THE EXISTING PART MAIN OFFICE, LIKE I MENTIONED, UM, THE REQUEST TO SORT OF PUT THIS SITE IN PLAY WARRANTED SOME FURTHER STUDY OF ITS HISTORIC CONTEXT ON THE ORIGINAL BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1959 BY EARL DILLARD. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. UM, I'M STILL HERE. I'LL PROCEED. UM, SO I THINK YOU'RE SEEING THE SLIDE WITH THE HISTORIC CONTEXT FOR THE PARDON MAIN OFFICE. UM, IT DOES HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY. THERE WAS AN ADDITION, UM, A TWO STORY ADDITION ADDED ONTO THIS BUILDING IN 1976. UM, BUT THE FACT THAT IT WAS THE FIRST PERMANENT HOME FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN PARKS DEPARTMENT, UM, REALLY MAKES IT ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. IT'S ALSO OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT TO THE IDENTITY OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO BE LOCATED CENTRALLY ADJACENT TO THE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL AND ZILKER PARK, AND JUST SO MANY ASPECTS OF THE PARK SYSTEM WITHIN THE CITY. SO ART HAS AN INTEREST IN MAINTAINING ITS PRESENCE ON THIS SITE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THIS IS A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT WE'VE DONE JUST AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT PHASE. SO WE HAD MANY [00:50:01] FORUMS, INCLUDING SOME SMALL GROUPS TO REALLY DIVE INTO THE SPECIFIC USERS THAT THE DOOR TO YARD CENTER, UM, BOTH FINE AND PERFORMING ARTS, UM, USERS AND ORGANIZATIONS. WE'VE ALSO BEEN COORDINATING WITH PARTNERS WITHIN THE CITY AND OTHERS LIKE THE TRAIL FOUNDATION AND THE ZACH SCOTT THEATER. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UH, MISSION STATEMENT CAME OUT OF THIS PROCESS THAT REALLY EMERGES THE MISSION OF THE DECK TO SUPPORT ARTS ACCESS FOR ALL WITH THAT OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS TO CREATE COMMUNITY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, HERE, YOU'RE SEEING AS SITE CONSTRAINTS MAP FOR THAT CENTRAL AREA ABOUT THEIR SHORES. UM, THE TWO BALL FIELDS THEY'RE SORT OF GHOSTED ON THIS. UNDERLAY DID JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE SOLID GREEN CIRCLES YOU'RE SEEING HERE ARE HERITAGE TREES, MOSTLY OAKS, UM, AND THERE THERE'S SOME WONDERFUL TREES THAT SURROUND THE PARD MAIN OFFICE THAT OBVIOUSLY WE ARE INTERESTED IN PROTECTING AND, AND CELEBRATING AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT. UM, THERE ARE ALSO SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT COTTONWOODS ON THIS CHART ON THIS SITE, SOME OF WHICH ARE TOWARD THE END OF THEIR LIFE, BUT, UM, WE, WE WANT TO DESIGN AROUND THOSE TREES, THAT PINK AND PURPLE LINES THAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT SORT OF TRANSVERSE THE SITE ARE VARIOUS UTILITY EASEMENTS. AND SO YOU GET AN INDICATION THAT THERE ARE KIND OF TWO NATURAL FOOTPRINTS TO BUILD IN THIS AREA THAT ARE RELATIVELY FREE OF CONSTRAINTS. ONE IS TOWARD THE SOUTHEAST EDGE OF THE SITE, KIND OF TUCKED UP AGAINST THE ZACH SCOTT THEATER. THE OTHER IS MORE IN THE NORTHWEST DIRECTION, A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE TRAIL AND LAKE. AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OFF TO JONATHAN TO QUICKLY WALK YOU THROUGH THE FOUR SCENARIOS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS CRIME, JONATHAN. WELL, IT SEEMS WE MAY HAVE LOST THEM. I CAN, I CAN JUMP IN FOR HIM HERE. UM, AND IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY PLEASE MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THAT'S TITLED FOUR OPTIONS. IT'S NUMBER EIGHT. UM, THIS IS KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE SHOWING IN MORE DETAIL. WE HAVE OPTION ONE A AND ONE B SHOWN BOTH OF WHICH PRESERVED THE PART MAIN OFFICE, AS I MENTIONED, I'M SORRY, I'M JUST GETTING A NOTE FROM JONATHAN HERE THAT HE'S HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE MUTE BUTTON, BUT, UM, OPTION ONE EIGHT SORT OF KEEPS THE NEW DECK FACILITY TUCKED TO THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE SITE WHILE OPTION ONE B LIKE I HAD MENTIONED ON THE CONSTRAINT SLIDE MOVES IT FURTHER TO THE NORTHWEST UP AGAINST THE TRAIL EDGE. OPTION TWO IS GRADING THE PARDON ME AND INTO THE NEW DECK CAMPUS, UM, TO THE RECTANGLE ON THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THIS SLIDE IS PROPOSED TO BE A NEW PART OF MAIN OFFICE, JUST SOUTH OF THE DAC, WHICH APPROACHES THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE RIGHT AWAY. AND THEN OPTION THREE IS ONE IN WHICH THE 1959 STRUCTURE THAT'S CURRENTLY THE PARDONING OFFICE IS REPURPOSED AND INCORPORATED IN A PART OF THE DOHERTY ARTS CENTER, UM, THAT YOU SEE IS ABLE TO SLIDE UP VERY SIMILARLY TO OPTION TWO TOWARDS THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE RIGHT AWAY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS SLIDE, INCLUDING ALL OF THE OTHER CRITERIA THAT WERE, UH, CRITERIA AND CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'RE WORKING AROUND ON THIS PROJECT. BUT WE'LL SHOW YOU THOSE IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. JONATHAN, ARE YOU THERE? YEAH. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME NOW? YES. YES. UH, THANK YOU. I'M GLAD YOU CAN. UH, SO W IF WE CAN, WE'LL JUST SHOOT THROUGH THE OPTIONS REAL QUICK. UM, IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE WE'LL SHOW OPTION ONE A, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE 2019 MASTER PLAN, UH, THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL. AND REALLY THEY JUST APPROVED THE MOVE TO THE PUBLISHER'S LOCATION. THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY APPROVE, AS KEVIN HAS SAID, THE, UH, THE BUILDING ROUTE NECESSARILY, AND THEY CHALLENGED US WITH, UH, SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES FOR HOW TO INCORPORATE THE EXISTING PART OR NOT, UH, OPTION ONE A AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IN ALL OF THESE, THERE'S THE SAME COMPONENTS, AND IT'S GENERALLY ABOUT THE SAME, UH, AREA FOR THE BUILDING. IT'S JUST DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENTS, UH, BASED ON THE TREES AND WORKING AROUND THOSE EASEMENTS THAT KEVIN MENTIONED. UM, BUT OPTION ONE A AS THE, THERE'S THE KEY THING IN IT IS THAT WE'VE GOT A BELOW GROUND PARKING UNDERNEATH THE CURRENT ZACK STOP PARKING LOT. UH, AND THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN PARKING THAT SERVES THE DISTRICT. UH, SO ZACK DAC, UH, AND THE PARTS. SO, UH, EVERYONE WOULD KIND OF ACCESS IT FROM RIVERSIDE. THERE'D BE SECONDARY ACCESS FROM, TO ME, WHICH WOULD KIND OF SERVE THE SCHOOL AND BE BACK OF HOUSE FOR THE THEATERS. UH, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, AND I BELIEVE KEVIN [00:55:01] MENTIONED THAT OPTION ONE B IS THE PREFERRED OPTION FOR CARDS. THIS IS THE ONLY OPTION THAT MOVES TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE EASEMENTS. I, IT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE WORKING AREA, UM, AND LET THIS KIND OF GET CLOSER TO, UH, RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND BE AN END TO THAT ACCESS THAT SERVES THE, WE LOOK AT AS A WHOLE ARTS DISTRICT GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO, UH, VIA PALMER AUDITORIUM OR WHILE USED TO DEPARTMENT AUDITORIUM, UH, AND, UH, THE EXISTING APPLICATION THAT THE INTERESTING THING AND OPTION ONE B IS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE, UH, THAT'S UNDERNEATH THE EASTERN MOST SOFTBALL FIELD. UH, SO HE CAN YOU SEE THE SOUTH PART OF THE SITE, UH, THAT WOULD ALL BE GREEN SPACE AS IT, UH, BUFFERS TO ME ROAD. AND THE BUILDING WOULD REALLY BE MORE, UH, AT THE END OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE. UH, THE TRAFFIC SURGERY WAS SEEING, UH, ALTHOUGH IT DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S IMPRESSIVELY FOR CARS, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY, UH, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO MAKE IT A MORE, UH, COMFORTABLE SPACE FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS AND MAKE THE CAR THAT KIND OF TERTIARY PART OF THAT. UH, WE JUST HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF ASSET TO THE BUILDING FOR DROP-OFF AND, UM, UH, ACCESS TO THE PARKING GARAGE, UH, NEXT BY FLEET OPTION TWO, AS KEVIN MENTIONED, UH, YOU KNOW, CARS ITSELF AROUND THOSE COURTYARDS, BUT IT DOES GET RID OF THE EXISTING PART BUILDING. THERE WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO KEEP, UH, THE EXISTING BUILDING AND OPTION TWO WITH SOME RECONFIGURATION THE SITE. HOWEVER, UH, IT PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE DEVELOPMENT TOWARDS TUMI ROAD. AND AGAIN, WE, WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH SPACE BECAUSE OF, IS A UNDERGROUND UTILITY EASEMENT. SO IT WOULD PROBABLY FORCE US TO MAYBE LOOK AT EVEN PUTTING A NEW FOR OUR FACILITY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE V UH, THE NORTH SOUTHEAST MYTHS AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO RECONFIGURE, UH, POTENTIAL GARAGE ACCESS OFFICE TO ME, IF WE COULD DO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, OPTION THREE, UH, DOES INCORPORATE THE EXISTING PART BUILDING. IT WOULD CONSIDER TEARING DOWN THE 1971 EDITION, UH, BUT WE DO WANT TO KIND OF HONOR THE EXISTING 1959 BUILDING AND CELEBRATE AS MUCH AS WE CAN WHILE INTEGRATING IT INTO THE BUILDING. UM, THE ROOMMATES WE SEEN EXACTLY HOW WE WOULD DO THAT, BUT WE THINK IT'S POSSIBLE. AND WE THINK IT WOULD PROVIDE KIND OF A FRONTAGE TO THAT. UH, IF WE DIDN'T DO A PARKING GARAGE UNDERNEATH HIS ACCESS PARKING, WE THINK THAT AT LEAST THE CIVIC CLOSET WANTS TO GO THERE. SO WE WE'D REMOVED THE SURFACE PARKING THAT'S THERE AND THEN COME BACK WITH A CIVIC PLAZA. AND BY THE WAY, I THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE IN ALL OF THESE OPTIONS. SO IT'S NOT JUST TIED TO OPTION THREE. UM, THIS ONE HAS, WOULD HAVE UNDER AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE ACCESS OFF TO ME THAT WOULD THE UNDER THE NEW DOC FACILITY, UH, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IS KIND OF INTEGRATED INTO PARD. AND, UH, IT'S MAKING ITS WAY AROUND THE TREES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UH, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ACCESS A LOT, IT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO KEY STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS, UH, PROCESS. UH, WE KIND OF WANTED TO INCLUDE A DIAGRAM THAT SHOWS HOW YOU GET TO THE PARKING, WHERE THE POTENTIAL PARKING IS. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING AND, UH, THE KIND OF BLUE SHADED AREAS, IF THE UNDERGROUND PARKING, UH, WITH PAINT BEING, I THINK BASSLINE BEING THE PRIMARY ACCESS TO IT, UM, OPTIONS TWO AND THREE CONSIDERED IT, THE UNDERGROUND GARAGE COULD BE EITHER UNDER THAT EXISTING ZACK SCOTT PARKING OR UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING. UH, IT'S KIND OF AN EITHER OR SCENARIO, BUT NOT THE, UM, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WITH THAT, IT TAKES US AGAIN, BACK TO PARTS PREFERRED OPTION, WHICH IS OPTION ONE B UH, THERE'S MERIT TO ALL OF THESE, OF COURSE, BUT WE THINK THAT OPTION ONE B PROVIDES THE MOST FLEXIBILITY AND THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT TO THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THE EXISTING TREES ON SITE. UH, IT ALSO DECOUPLES THE PARKING FROM THE BUILDING AND KIND OF GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO STREAMLINE THE DESIGN, THE CONSTRUCTION THERE, UH, AND AS WELL, IT MAINTAINS ALL OF THE EXISTING TREES ON SITE LETTER, UH, HERITAGE OR PERSPECTIVE. UH, SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES WITH IT, UM, AND LOOK FORWARD TO KIND OF DISCUSSING SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS OR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE WITH IT. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO KEVIN, UH, NEXT SLIDE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. YOU JONATHAN, I'LL JUST SUMMARIZE AND WRAP UP BY SAYING WHEN CONSIDERING THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS FOR THE DECK FACILITY AND THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OPPORTUNITIES THAT JONATHAN JUST SPOKE AND WHEN ALSO WEIGHING POTENTIAL AND HOW WE'RE MEETING THE COUNCIL, UM, CRITERIA THAT, THAT THIS PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO THE TEAM FEELS THAT OPTION ONE D IS THE STRONGEST CANDIDATE FOR THIS. UM, IT'S UNIQUE IN THAT IT'S THE LOAN OPTION THAT HAS A STRONG RELATIONSHIP TO THE HIKING BIKE TRAIL. UM, AND IT HAS A PROMINENT SIDING THAT OUR TEAM FEELS WOULD BE WORTHY OF A CULTURAL ARTS COMPLEX WITHIN THE CITY. AND OF COURSE IT IS ALSO ONE OF THE TWO OPTIONS THAT PRESERVES THE PARDON MAIN OFFICE INTACT. SO, UH, ULTIMATELY IF THE, IF THE COMMISSION IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE MERITS OF THE SCHEME, WE'D BE LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO PROCEED WITH THIS DESIGN SCENARIO, BUT WE'RE [01:00:01] HAPPY TO OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER. YES. UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. THIS IS ACTUALLY, AND THE SECOND TIME I'VE SEEN IT, UH, THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION GOT AN IN-DEPTH, UH, PRESENTATION EARLIER. AND, UM, AS I SAID, THEN THE, UH, LACE MY OWN OPINION IS THAT THE OPTION TWO IS A NONSTARTER DEMOLISHING THAT BUILDING, UH, THAT'S A LEGACY FROM, UM, BEVERLY SHEFFIELD AND HIS, UH, STRONG VISION IN MAKING, UH, WHAT WE NOW APPRECIATED HIS TOWN LAKE, HIS CONTRIBUTIONS TO THAT, UH, WHOLE AREA, UH, TO, TO SEE THAT BUILDING GO, UH, WOULD BE, I THINK WE CAN QUICKLY SAY THAT THAT'S A NON-STARTER, UM, I DO FEEL AND RESPONDED TO THE DOWNTOWN COMMISSION THAT, UM, THE BEST OPTION IS IN FACT, THE RECOMMENDED ONE B UH, IT CERTAINLY, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE DOES THE MOST TO NOT ONLY PRESERVE THE BUILDING, BUT ITS IMMEDIATE SURROUNDING ENVIRONS. SO THEY WOULD BE QUITE RECOGNIZED, UH, AND RECOGNIZABLE TO THOSE PEOPLE WHOSE VISION MADE THAT ALL POSSIBLE. UM, THE FURTHER YOU GO AWAY FROM THE BUILDING, UH, AND INTEGRATED INTO A COMPLEX OF OTHER ACTIVITIES, I THINK THE MORE APPROPRIATE IT IS FOR THAT OVERALL STATEMENT OF THAT ZONE IN THAT AREA. BUT I'M NOW PUTTING ON MY ARCHITECT'S HAT. I THOUGHT THAT THE IDEA OF THE EXPANDED SITE AND USING THE BUILDING AND THE LANDSCAPE, THE WAY THEY, UH, HAVE PROPOSED IN ONE B WAS REALLY STUNNING. AND I THINK COMPARED TO THE OTHERS THAT ARE VERY MUCH JUST PACKING IN, UH, IN THE LIMIT WITH THE LIMITATIONS OF THE SITE, UH, TO BREAK FREE AND TO BE REALLY ABLE TO, UH, BRING THE PUBLIC AND BRING ACTIVITIES, UH, THROUGH THE ENTIRE DISTRICT AND BRING THAT AS A REAL RESOURCE OF THE, THE WHOLE DORDY PROGRAM, UH, WAS JUST TOO GOOD TO PASS UP. SO, UM, I KNOW OUR PERSPECTIVE IS PROBABLY MORE CONCERNED WITH THE PRESERVATION ASPECTS, BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE, THE ONE BEING SOLUTION IS, UH, UM, I, I'M A VERY, VERY STRONG PROPONENT FROM EVERYTHING I'VE SEEN SO FAR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BALANCE ACTUALLY. UM, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS, ONE JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT IS, UH, WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THE EXISTING, UM, DARDY ARTS CENTER? AND THEN MY SECOND COMMENT IS, IS MORE ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE OF COMMISSIONER MINDSET. I, UM, JUST LOOKING AT OPTION ONE A, I FEEL LIKE IT MAINTAINS THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE EXISTING PART BUILDING TO THE TRAIL, UM, AND TOWN LAKE AND THAT, THOSE VIEWS FROM THAT, WHEREAS OPTION ONE B PUTS A BUILDING IN BETWEEN, UM, THAT LOOKING TO THE NORTHWEST NORTHEAST. SO, UM, MY PREFERENCE ACTUALLY WOULD BE FOR OPTION ONE A INSTEAD OF ONE B WELL, I TELL RELATION NOW WHAT'S PLANNED FOR THE EXISTING, UH, DIRTY ARTS BUILDING THAT THEY SHOULD START NAVAL RESERVE CENTER. AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW. AND, UM, AND I NOTICE IT'S THE FIRST PAGE ON YOUR PRESENTATION. AND I HAD CONCERNS AS WELL ABOUT THE BUILDING COMING IN, UM, JUST BEING MUCH MORE HIGHLY VISIBLE IN ONE B TO THE TRAIL AND THE EXPERIENCE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE TRAIL AS FAR AS THEIR, THEIR EXPERIENCE OF THE ENVIRONMENT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THESE, UM, YOUR RESPONSE TO THOSE ITEMS TOO. SURE. I'LL START WITH THE FIRST QUESTION ABOUT THE CURRENT DOHERTY ART CENTER, ABLE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE AND ITS LOCATION UNTIL THIS NEW PROJECT IS COMPLETED. AND THEN EVENTUALLY THAT BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE DEMOLISHED, TO RESTORE THAT PARKLAND, TO SUPPORT, UM, BUTLER PARK, BUT OUR DEPARTMENT WOULD CONDUCT A CULTURAL RESOURCE INVENTORY, UM, AS WE'VE DONE WITH SOME OTHER PART FACILITIES LIKE THE MONTOPOLIS RECREATION CENTER, UM, AND, AND BRING THAT TO THE COMMISSION PRIOR TO MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY, ANY DEMOLITION AT THAT FACILITY, TO THE COMMENT ABOUT THE, UM, FRONT END ON TOWN LAKE, THERE IS SOME INFORMATION AND OTHER PRESENTATIONS THAT WE CUT OUT OF THIS ONE THAT TRIES TO ILLUSTRATE THAT EXACT POINT A LITTLE BIT. UM, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE, THE SITE FOR THE BUILDING PUT FOOTPRINT AND OPTION ONE B IS ACTUALLY UP ABOUT 25 FEET HIGHER THAN THE GRADE OF THE TRAIL. AND IT'S SEPARATED BY A PRETTY THICK VEGETATED BUFFER. SO I WAS ACTUALLY JUST OUT THERE TODAY WITH SOME OTHER TEAM MEMBERS. AND THERE'S YOU REALLY EXPERIENCED THOSE TWO AREAS, UM, VERY SEPARATELY BECAUSE OF THE GREAT DIFFERENCE AND THE, THE BUILDING IS PLACED IN A WAY THAT IT WOULD SORT OF SNUG [01:05:01] UP TO THE EXISTING TREE LINE, BUT IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE IMPOSING ON THE TRAIL OR TO INTERRUPT THE NATURAL EXPERIENCE AT THE WATER'S EDGE. SO THAT IS A, A COMMENT THAT WE'VE HEARD AND THAT WE'VE, UM, MAYBE ILLUSTRATED A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN SOME OTHER PRESENTATIONS, BUT WE REMOVED SOME, SOME GRAPHICS SPEAK TO THAT OUT OF THIS ONE. AND THERE'LL BE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION COMMENTS. YES. COMMISSIONER CRICK, ALL THE OPTIONS WERE COST EQUIVALENT. OKAY. THIS IS JONATHAN. WE HAVEN'T DONE TOO IN DEPTH IN ANALYSIS ON THAT WE THEY'RE, THEY'RE CLOSE, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY A DELTA LET'S SAY UP TO 10%. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS IN IT. UH, AND THERE'S ALSO THE FACTOR OF HOW MUCH LANDSCAPING WE WOULD DO. UH, IT'S KIND OF VARIABLE AND MAKES IT HARD TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION DIRECTLY. UM, BUT I WILL SAY THAT OPTION TWO IS PROBABLY THE MOST EXPENSIVE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE TO DO THE UNDERGROUND PARKING UNDERNEATH PACIFIC PLAZA, THAT BEING THE SPACE THAT THE CURRENT JACK STAFF PARKING. THANK YOU. COMMENTS, QUESTIONS. YES. COMMISSIONER BALANCE ONE. UM, ARE WE TASKED WITH COMING UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON WHICH OPTION WE WOULD PREFER? IS THAT OUR BUSINESS? I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AND IF THE COMMISSION WASN'T COMFORTABLE BACKING ONE OPTION, WE'D ALSO WELCOME FEEDBACK THAT TAKES, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OPPORTUNITIES INTO ACCOUNT AS WELL. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM SOME OF THEIR COMMISSIONERS ON THOSE COMMISSIONER WHO I'M SETH, THAT'S FINE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION WHEN YOU'RE READY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, UH, ON A SMALLER NOTE FROM, FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY ALL AGREE THAT ANY OF THE OPTIONS THAT RETAIN THE HISTORIC BUILDING WOULD BE PREFERABLE. AND BEYOND THAT, IT'S PROBABLY GETTING INTO, UH, SOME THINGS THAT ARE BEYOND OUR PURVIEW. I'M KIND OF TORN BETWEEN ONE A AND ONE B I CAN SEE POSITIVES, UH, ON EITHER SIDE OF THEM. MY ONE CONCERN ABOUT ONE BD IS THE PLAN TO HAVE THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE TO THE PARKING GARAGE DURING A HEAVY EVENT, LOADED A TRAFFIC PATTERN ALSO KIND OF BE TERTIARY TO PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING IN AND WALKING FROM THEIR CARS TO THE BUILDINGS, UH, THAT KIND OF A CERTAIN TIME. BUT I'M SURE THAT COULD BE FINESSED WITH THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT YOU HAVE, BUT, UM, I'M KIND OF A TOSS UP BETWEEN ONE 81 BEING WITH A PREFERENCE TOWARD ONE B COMMISSIONER, A LITTLE, I WOULD AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF CONSTRAINTS THAT PART IS WORKING WITH ON THE SIDE WITH THE TREES, ACCESS EASEMENTS, ET CETERA. AND MY PRIMARY CONCERN WOULD BE THE HISTORIC PARKS AND RECREATION MAIN OFFICE BUILDING. AND I WOULD SUPPORT, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM IN TERM OF TERMS OF SUPPORTING ANY OF THE OPTIONS THAT PRESERVE, MAINTAIN THE EXISTING HISTORIC BUILDING. I CONCUR, I, I TRY TO FEEL, UM, LIKE OPTION ONE, A AND ONE B ARE THE BETTER, UM, OPTIONS FOR THAT OUTCOME. AND MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT ONE DAY WAS THE PROXIMITY TO THE TRAIL AND HOW PEOPLE WOULD EXPERIENCE THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, UM, WITH THAT BUILDING. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT YES. I THINK THE, UH, MOTION TO ENDORSE EITHER OPTION ONE, A OR ONE B OF IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD TAKE UP OR SHOULD, SHOULD PROMOTE AND PASS ON TO THE COUNCIL AS OUR RECOMMENDATION. UH, AND, UM, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S A SECOND AND I'LL EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. UH, CAN I SHARE A LITTLE, OKAY. COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON. WERE YOU JUST WANTING TO SECOND IT, OKAY. OKAY. UM, TAKE COMMISSIONER A LITTLE AT THIS TIME. WE'LL TAKE YOU NEXT TIME. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND A SECOND. AND LET ME JUST SAY THE REASON THAT OBVIOUSLY I TALKED ABOUT OPTION TWO, BEING A NON-STARTER, THE BUILDING WOULD BE REMOVED OPTION THREE AND MAKING IT AN ADDITION WITH NOT SPECIFIC, UH, POTENTIAL USE, UH, CONNECTING IT TO ANOTHER LARGER BUILDING. UH, I CAN'T SEE THAT IN THE COMPARISON TO, UH, A OR B WHERE THE BUILDING IS PRESERVED, THAT THAT'S, UH, THAT'S AS GOOD AN OPTION. SO I FEEL VERY, VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT DIRECTION. IF, UH, IF, IF THIS MOTION PASSES IS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL [01:10:06] AND WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL WE GET TERABYTE BACK. ARE WE ALSO COMMENTING ON THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, FUTURE ASSISTING DOHERTY ART CENTER OR ONLY ON THE NEW ONES? THIS IS THE LIVING JOHNSON. WE WERE ONLY, OH, SORRY, ELIZABETH. WE WERE ONLY SEEKING ACTION ON THE PROPOSAL FOR THE NEW PROJECT. WE WILL COME BACK AGAIN IN A COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN, WHEN WE'RE READY FOR ACTION ON THE EXISTING DOHERTY ARTS AND STAFF, I'M HAVING PROBLEMS STAYING CONNECTED. UM, AND THEN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT ABOUT ME FOR YEARS, BUT, UH, TONIGHT IN PARTICULAR, IF I HAS OUT OF EXISTENCE ON THIS MEETING, COMMISSIONER HINDSIGHT, ARE YOU PREPARED TO TAKE OVER AS CHAIR? SURE. HAPPY TO DO SO. AND I WOULD HAVE STEPPED IN BRIEFLY EXCEPT IT'S MY MOTION. THAT'S PENDING VERY AWKWARD. OKAY. WHAT WAS YOUR MOTION OF I'M THINKING IT'S A OR B? CORRECT. OKAY. UM, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT? I COULD SUPPORT EITHER A OR ONE, A OR ONE B, AND WOULD BE GLAD TO, UM, HAVE THAT WIGGLE ROOM IN THE MOTION. OKAY. UH, HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, COMMISSIONER ISS MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. I THINK THIS PAST IS THIS, UM, IS THIS GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU? UM, PEOPLE FROM BARD? YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, PLEASE. UH, IN FURTHER, UM, IF YOU COME BACK TO US IN FURTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE WITH SOME OTHER GROUPS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO SHOW, UH, THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE BUILDING, UH, CLOSEST TO THE TRAIL. UM, SOMEBODY ACTUALLY CALLED ME THIS AFTERNOON WITH CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, AND THAT WAS REALLY THE FIRST TIME I, UH, LOOKED INTO IT. SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT OTHER FOLKS WILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT AS WELL. OKAY. UM, CAN WE GO ON TO PUBLIC HEARING STAFF? WE HAVE NO DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON, UH, APPLICATIONS FOR HIS START, HIS START ZONING PENDING FOR US. SO WE GO ON TO A SECTION [3.B.1. C14H-2009-0021 – 2406 Harris Blvd. (Part 1 of 2)] B AND THE FIRST ITEM IS 24 OH SIX HARRIS BOULEVARD. UH, DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER ON THAT CASE? UH, YES. WE HAVE, UH, THREE SPEAKERS ON THAT. AND THE FIRST SPEAKER ON OUR LIST IS MS. CONTRA. OKAY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE SPEAKERS WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY ON THE PHONE. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE SPEAKER LIST, UH, IN THEIR ORDER, ON THE AGENDA BEFORE WE TAKE UP THESE ITEMS. SO GO AHEAD. UM, SPEAKER NUMBER ONE, STATE YOUR NAME? YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS GINA AND I'M AN ARCHITECT HERE IN AUSTIN. AND, UM, I HAVE BEEN HIRED BY ROBERT AND MICHELLE KENNEY TO WORK ON OUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY APPROPRIATENESS FOR, UM, THIS PROJECT HERE AT TWO 46 HARRIS BOULEVARD. AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WAS ASKED AND SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW ME AND MOST OF YOU DON'T IS THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING IN PRESERVATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE HERE IN PRIMARILY AND FIELD IN PEMBERTON FOR 26 YEARS IN THIS AREA, I'VE BASICALLY 29 PROJECTS. AND, UM, SOME OF WHICH ARE LANDMARKS AND SOME OF WHICH SHOULD BE LANDMARKED AND, UH, QUITE A FEW POOLS. SO I WANT TO PRESENT THAT TO YOU ALL SO THAT YOU KNOW, THAT MY COMMENT AND MY POINT OF VIEW, UM, HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF IT. SO, UM, WE ARE, UH, PLANNING AND PROPOSING TO DO A FEW THINGS ON THE SITE, AND THAT WOULD BE, AND I GUESS THE LARGEST ONE FOR DISCUSSION WILL BE THE INTRODUCTION OF A POOL IN THE FRONT YARD. AND, UM, IN WORKING WITH THE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH WE MET WITH ONCE, UM, WE INITIALLY CAME IN WITH A POOL THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE HOUSE. AND WHEN I RAISED HER, WE HAVE SINCE REVISED THAT TO A POOL LOCATED FURTHER TO THE SOUTH LAWN, ADJACENT TO AN EXISTING [01:15:01] PORCH AND DISENGAGED IT FROM THE HOUSE, WE'VE ALSO LOWERED THE POOL DOWN INTO THE LANDSCAPE RATHER THAN A RAISED TERRACE. UM, SO, UH, THE SECOND PORTION OF THAT IS TO DELETE AN EXISTING CIRCULAR DRIVE, WHICH WAS PUT IN, IN THE 1990S. AND THAT'S EVIDENCED BY A BUILDING PERMIT AND A LETTER BY, AND WHO WAS THE OWNER AT THE TIME, UM, WHO HAD PUT IT IN AT THE SAME TIME. UM, THEY HAD CONSTRUCTED A LANDSCAPE WALL ALONG THE FRONT, UH, SIDEWALK, AND THAT WAS ABOUT 15 INCHES HIGH AND ART. AND IT COVERS THE ORIGINAL STEPS TO THE PROPERTY OR INTENTION IS TO ENABLE REPLACE THAT LOW IS A HIGHER WORLD TO HELP MITIGATE THE FACT THAT THE LOT IS MUCH HIGHER THAN ME. UM, THE EROSION PROBLEM WITH THE LOT BEING MUCH HIGHER THAN THE SIDEWALK, UM, AND KEEP THE ORIGINAL STEPS. AND, UM, THE THIRD, UH, PORTION OF THIS REPORT PORTION IS TO GO AHEAD WITH REMOVING AN ADDICT FAN, WHICH WAS INSTALLED IN THE PROMINENT GABLE AND OF THE BUILDING IN THE 1950S. AND THERE'S INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET IS HOW WE CAME TO UNDERSTAND WHEN THE FAN WAS PUT IN AND WHAT TOOK FIN IT IS. I'VE ALSO INCLUDED, UH, UH, SOME INFORMATION ON THE SITE, WHICH I'LL GO THROUGH. UM, THE SITE IS LOCATED ON HARRIS BOULEVARD. IT'S UM, UH, THE BUILDING ITSELF HAS STEPPED BACK FROM THE CURB LINE, UH, NEARLY A HUNDRED FEET. AND IT SITS AT ABOUT 75 FEET ABOVE THE SIDEWALK. CURRENTLY, THERE ARE LARGE HIT THE WALL AND LARGE HEDGES, WHICH FROM THE PRINCIPAL, THESE STANDING IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, PRETTY MUCH BLOCK ABOUT ONE QUARTER OF THE ELEVATION, IF NOT MORE OF THE HOUSE. UM, SO, UH, WHAT WE ARE INTENDING TO DO IS ACTUALLY PUT OUR POOL TO THE LEFT, UM, UM, TANK ON IT OF ABOUT 15 INCHES. THE REASON WE'VE CHOSEN THE RIGHT WORD OVER THE REAR YARD IS IN THE REAR YARD. WE HAVE OVERHEAD POWER LINES, WHICH SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENTIRELY AS WELL AS OTHER COMMUNICATION LINES, AND ALSO A STANDARD, VERY LARGE LIVE OF TREES, WHICH ARE ABOUT FIVE IN NATURE. SO, UM, WE DECIDED TO GO TO THE FRONT LAWN AND, UM, WE WOULD OF COURSE, NEED TO ENCLOSE OUR POOL, BUT ALSO WE'D LIKE TO INCLUDE THE SITE IN A, AN APPROVED, OPEN, UH, WROUGHT IRON FENCE SURROUNDING THE POOL, OR MOVED FURTHER OUT. I'VE INCLUDED SOME RENDERINGS FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT AND THEY SHOW THE, UM, PHOTOGRAPH, UH, APPROACHING FROM THE SOUTH AND THEN A PHOTOGRAPH LOOKING STRAIGHT ON AND THEN A PHOTOGRAPH COMING SOUTHBOUND, UM, ON HARRIS AND FOLLOWING EACH ONE OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS IS AN ARCHITECTURAL RENDERING THREE-DIMENSIONAL OF THE PLACEMENT OF THE POOL. THE RENDERINGS DON'T SHOW THE PLANTING FOR CLARITY OF, UM, WHERE THE POOL WOULD BE LOCATED AND IT'S, UM, IMPACT OR NON-IMPACT ON THE SITE. I KNOW THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT THAT. ADDITIONALLY, I HAVE GONE AHEAD AND, UH, PUT IN A PACKET OF INFORMATION ON OTHER HOUSES IN THE AREA LANDMARKS, AS WELL AS NON LANDMARK THAT ARE A REVIVAL STYLE THAT ARE QUITE PROMINENT, THAT HAS LARGE TERRACES OR POOLS IN THE FRONT WE HAVE SINCE, LIKE I SAID, WHEN MADE THE TERRORISTS. SO I FIND THIS ALL QUITE INTERESTING. UM, I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU ALL HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT. AND IS THERE ANOTHER SPEAKER WE HAVE, UM, MS. KENNY, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION. THIS IS MICHELLE KENNY. OH, I'M SORRY. UM, UH, I GUESS I WAS GOING TO LET MY HUSBAND DO MOST OF THE SPEAKING, BUT I GUESS I WAS JUST GONNA REITERATE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T PLAN ON TOUCHING THE FACADE OF THE HOME AT ALL. UM, JUST ONLY ENHANCING THE LANDSCAPING, WHICH AT THE MOMENT IS PRETTY DEAD. UM, AS A RESULT OF OUR SNOW STORM THAT WE JUST HAD. UM, AND WE HIRED TINA JUST BECAUSE SHE, YOU KNOW, IMPROVES ALMOST EVERY PROPERTY SHE TOUCHES WITHOUT DISTRACTING OR TAKING AWAY ANY WAY, ANYTHING FROM THE HISTORIC STRUCTURE ITSELF. AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT WE PLAN TO BUILD YOU, I DON'T EVEN THINK YOU'LL SEE IT FROM THE STREET JUST BECAUSE OF HOW HIGH THE PROPERTY IS, BUT THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAD TO SAY. AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LISTENING. OKAY. AND THE LAST SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE [01:20:01] YOUR NAME AND GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION. THIS IS ROBERT KENNEY, UH, MICHELLE KENNEDY'S HUSBAND. AND, UH, I WOULD ONLY LIKE TO ADD THAT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SIDING OF THIS, OF THE HOUSE ON THE LOT, UH, QUITE FAR TO THE BACK OF THE, UH, OF THE LOT, THE FRONT YARD IS, IS, IS REALLY THE ONLY PLACE THAT A POOL CAN GO. UH, BUT THE REASON WE HIRED TINA, UH, AS IS REALLY BECAUSE WE CARE A LOT ABOUT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION. WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN PUTTING A LOT INTO THE PROJECT OF, OF RESTORING AND RENEWING THIS HOUSE, UH, FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS AND EXPECT TO CONTINUE TO DO SO. UM, BUT, UH, WOULD NOT WANT TO THE COMMITTEE TO THINK THAT WE, UM, OVER SOMEHOW TRY TO MAKE UP A CARNIVAL, UH, LANDSCAPE OUT OF THIS PLACE. IT'S, IT'S INTENDED TO BE ENTIRELY CONSISTENT, BUT ALLOW US TO USE THE FRONT, UH, OF THE HOUSE OF THE YARD, WHICH WE REALLY CAN'T USE VERY MUCH NOW BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT'S SUCH A CUT-THROUGH ON HARRIS BOULEVARD. UM, SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. CONTINUING TO STAY ON THE LINE IN CASE WE HAVE QUESTIONS DURING OUR DISCUSSION, OR YOU CAN, UH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND LEAVE THE CONVERSATION. OKAY. UH, DO WE HAVE, IS THERE SOMEONE SHARE, I THINK THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, I HAD POLLED BEFORE MARY STREET. IS THERE AN APPLICANT TO SPEAK TO THAT? YES, WE HAVE MR. DEAVER AS OUR FIRST SPEAKER ON ITEM BEFORE MR. D GO AHEAD. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, UH, COMMISSIONERS AND, UH, CHAIRPERSON MYERS. UH, THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR CASE TODAY. THIS IS NICK DEAVER ARCHITECT, AND I PRESENTED, UH, THIS, UH, RENOVATION OF THIS SWEET LITTLE HOUSE ON EAST MARY, UH, TO THE ARC A FEW WEEKS AGO. AND, UH, I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST GO QUICKLY SINCE, UH, SINCE SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS, UH, BUT I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, BUT JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT OUR INTENTION IS TO RESTORE THIS HISTORIC STRUCK, UH, STORYBOOK HOUSE. WE HAVE A ONE-STORY ADDITION THAT IS NOT VIEWED FROM THE, THAT IS IN THE BACK THAT YOU WILL NOT BE SEEING. WE'RE ASKING TO REMOVE A CONCRETE PORCH IN THE FRONT AND REPLACE IT WITH A SMALLER CONCRETE PORCH THAT REDUCES THE NUMBER OF STEPS AT THE FRONT PORCH. THIS ALSO, UH, ALLOWS OUR CLIENTS TO, UH, A LITTLE EASIER ACCESS, UH, AS IT, AS A RETIREMENT HOME, A HOUSE FOR THEM. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO GET INTO THE HOUSE. UH, OUR INTENTION IS TO RESTORE THE WOOD WINDOWS AND REUSE THE SIDING, UM, AND OBVIOUSLY TO, UH, TO BE AS SENSITIVE AS THE HOUSE AS POSSIBLE. YOU'LL SEE THAT WE PROPOSED AT A COUPLE OF GABLE WINDOWS AND, UH, SOME HIGH WINDOWS AND, UH, AND A CARPORT, UH, WHICH IS BEYOND THE ONE-THIRD OF THE, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOUSE TO ABOUT 15 AND A HALF FEET BACK FROM THE BACK CORNER. UH, THERE'S ONE OTHER ASPECT THAT WE'D LIKE TO ADDRESS AND CHANGE IN THAT IS THAT THE PROJECTED PORCH IN THE FRONT, UH, HAS BEEN COVERED, WE THINK, UH, NOT, UH, TRADITIONALLY, BUT OBVIOUSLY IN SOME RETROFIT WAY WITH SOME SORT OF ASBESTOS SIDING WITH ALUMINUM REVEALS THAT IF I COULD TAKE YOU JUST QUICKLY, I'M NOT GOING TO, UH, UH, SPEND TIME ON OUR SLIDES, BUT IF SOMEBODY CAN JUST ADVANCE US THROUGH SLIDE ONE AND SLIDE TWO, YOU'LL SEE ARE OUR VIEWS OF THE HOUSE. UH, UH, UH, SLIDE THREE SHOWS THE ORIGINAL HOUSE ON THE SLIGHTLY SLOPING FRONT YARD. UH, OUR SITE PLAN IS SLIDE FOUR, UH, WHICH SHOWS OUR J R TERRACING TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE NUMBER OF STEPS IN THE FRONT. WE CAN SKIP THROUGH FIVE, SIX, UH, AND YOU CAN SEE SEVEN SHOWS THE ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE. UH, I'D LIKE TO GET YOU PAST SEVEN AND EIGHT AND END UP ON NINE, IF YOU CAN SEE NINE, UH, JUST TO DRAW THE, UH, EVERYONE'S ATTENTION TO THE, TO THIS, UH, UH, ONCE AGAIN, A VERY SWEET HOUSE WITH THE, WITH THE SORT OF, UH, OFFSET STORYBOOK FRONT, UH, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO TELL FROM THESE PHOTOGRAPHS, UH, THAT WE HAVE SOME, UH, RATHER UNFORTUNATE SIDING THAT HAD GOTTEN REPLACED ON THAT FRONT PORTION, WHICH WE'D LIKE TO TAKE BACK TO WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE, WAS THE ORIGINAL, UH, MATERIAL OF THE HOUSE. YOU KNOW, IF YOU ALSO, THE SOUTH VIEW SHOWS THAT A HIGH NUMBER OF STEPS THERE'S ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN [01:25:01] STEPS. THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT THERE WAS ANY GUARDRAIL, UH, ATTACHED TO THE CONCRETE WALL, WHICH SEEMS KIND OF SURPRISING TO US, UH, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WELL OVER THREE FEET OUT OF THE GROUND, AND IT'S A FAIRLY DANGEROUS, UH, CIRCUMSTANCE WITHOUT RAILINGS, UH, IN ANY EVENT, THAT'S BASICALLY OUR CASE. AND, AND I ALSO HAVE ON THE LINE, UH, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, BUT ALSO MY CLIENT ROGER FISHER, UH, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AS WELL. OKAY. MR. FISHER, MR. FISHER, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, I AM. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY. UM, THANK YOU HEARING. OKAY. UM, WELL I THINK NICK IS EXPLAINS THE, UM, TECHNICAL ASPECTS QUITE CLEARLY AS TO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO. UM, AS HE SAID, MY WIFE AND I, UM, RETIRED AND WE HOPE THAT THIS HOUSE WILL BE THE LAST HOUSE WE LIVE IN. UM, AND WE, WE LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, WE HAVE MADE, I THINK, A VERY, UM, CONCERTED EFFORT TO KEEP ALL THE NEIGHBORS ON THE STREETS INFORMED AS TO WHAT OUR PLANS ARE AS THEY HAVE DEVELOPED. AND MOST RECENTLY WE PROVIDED EVERYONE WITH A COPY OF THE RENDERINGS AND THE SITE PLAN, AND WE'VE RECEIVED POSITIVE RE SPORT SUPPORT FROM, UM, I WOULD SAY FOUR OR FIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, PARTICULARLY THE, THE, THE, THE ADJACENT HOUSES, UM, WHO, UM, ARE QUITE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. UM, SO MY WIFE IS HERE AS WELL. IF YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING WRONG, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR CASE, BUT ALSO, UH, WE WERE DELIGHTED THAT THIS, THIS BLOCK WAS ON A HISTORIC SITE BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN WHAT'S HAPPENING IN AUSTIN, AND WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE THE HOUSE A LITTLE BIT MORE LIVABLE FOR US, BUT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE WILL NOT CHANGE. AND ALL THE LITTLE DETAILS THAT ARE SO BEAUTIFUL IN THIS VERY 1930S, VERY OLD HOUSE WILL BE TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY, UH, TIGHT TAKEN CARE OF AND MADE JUST RESTORED. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND, UM, UH, I HOPE WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE WE LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LOVE AUSTIN. WE, WE WANT TO BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR PLANS. I PULLED THE, UM, WE'LL DISCUSS IT LATER, BUT I, I HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THE LANDSCAPING. SO WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE WHEN, WHEN IT COMES UP FOR DISCUSSION. UM, THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE, UH, IS B WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER ON, UM, THIS LAST ITEM ON MARY STREET, MR. JAMES BILODEAU, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? I AM. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I JUST WANTED TO THANK MR. AND MRS. FISHER FOR THE EFFORT THEY PUT IN, UH, REHABILITATING THIS HOUSE. UM, I KNOW THE, THE, AND, UH, THE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN EXCELLENT AND, UH, JUST USUALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE WORK THEY'VE DONE AND VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THEM AS NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. I'M SURE THEY APPRECIATE THAT. AND WE DO TOO. UM, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS CASE, UM, WE HAVE B SIX, NINE OH NINE OH NINE AND NINE 11 CONGRESS AVENUE, OUR FIRST SPEAKER AND ITEM B SIX WILL BE MS. BO JO. WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE SHE IS ABLE TO UNMUTE HERSELF. UH, PLEASE BEAR WITH US. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. I APOLOGIZE. I WAS, I WAS NOT, I WAS ONLY HALFWAY THERE. THIS IS LIAM POJO, UH, WITH JENNER GROUP HERE REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER. UM, I'M JOINED BY DONNA CARTER. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. HI, DONNA. HELLO, GO AHEAD. AND THIS BUDGET. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, WHO, WHO I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW, AND HE'LL BE WORKING WITH US ON THIS PROJECT. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE YOU ARE PROCESS-WISE AND THEN LET DONNA ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO THE SPECIFICS OF THE BUILDING, UM, [01:30:02] DECONSTRUCTION AND RECONSTRUCTION PROPOSAL, UM, THAT WE HAVE HERE BEFORE YOU. UM, IF WE MOVE ON TO SLIDE TWO, I THINK EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH THESE SITES NINE OR SEVEN OR NINE 11 CONGRESS AVENUE. UM, I WANT TO PRESENT TO YOU WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE, UM, THE BEST AND FASTEST PATH TOWARD THESE STRUCTURE BEING, UM, BEING DISMANTLED AND RECONSTRUCTED TO THEIR FORMER SELVES. UM, HERE WE HAVE SOME, SOME OLD IMAGES FROM 1881, AND AGAIN, FROM 1924 OF THESE BUILDINGS, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS, THIS IS THE VISION OF WHAT THEY WOULD BE RECONSTRUCTED TO. UM, AND THE PROPOSAL, UM, WOULD BE, UM, TO WHAT I SHOULD SAY IS SINCE REPRESENTING THIS PROPERTY OWNER, UM, I HAVE VISITED WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND THEN BECAUSE LAST MONTH, UM, HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING WAS CANCELED. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PRESENT IT TO YOU. UM, BUT WE DID GET SOME FEEDBACK AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, AS FAR AS PRIORITY AREAS OF THE BUILDING AND, AND WHAT OUR GOAL HERE TONIGHT IS TO HEAR FROM THE FULL COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND GETTING READY TO SUBMIT TO YOU IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. AND THAT WE DON'T GET CAUGHT IN A SITUATION THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST, UM, WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN YOUR AGREEMENT CONCEPTUALLY, BUT WEREN'T ABLE TO GET ENOUGH DETAIL TO GET THE PROJECT ACTUALLY MOVING FORWARD. UM, SO THE PROPOSAL FOR TONIGHT IS, UM, TO SUBMIT THIS DETAILED DECONSTRUCTION AND RECONSTRUCTION PLAN TO THE HISTORIC OFFICE TO RECEIVE THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT THAT'S REQUIRED TO DO THE WORK. UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL THEN HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS TO GET APPROVAL FOR THE OVERALL BUILDING FOR THE SITE, WHICH WOULD THEN INCLUDE THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FACADE. UM, THAT SITE PLAN WILL CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL AS WELL AT THE TIME THAT IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. UM, AND THEN THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL BE ABLE TO RECONSTRUCT THE FACADE ALONG WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE. UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UM, WHICH WOULD BE SLIDE FIVE. UM, SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, THESE BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN IN A STATE OF LIMBO FOR, FOR QUITE A WHILE. I'M GOING TO TRY TO WALK THROUGH THE DETAILS, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE NOW. UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS IF YOU'D LIKE, UM, IN 2006, THE INITIAL APPROVAL FOR DECONSTRUCTION AND RECONSTRUCTION OF NINE OH SEVEN AND NINE OH NINE CONGRESS WERE, WAS APPROVED. AND I BELIEVE IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS APPROVED TODAY. IT DID NOT INCLUDE NINE 11 CONGRESS AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THAT BUILDING WAS UNDER DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP. UM, BUT, UM, IF YOU MOVE ON TO SLIDE SIX, YOU CAN SEE HERE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS THAT WAS APPROVED FOR NINE OH SEVEN, AND I KNOW NINE TO DISMANTLE AND RECONSTRUCT THOSE THE FRONT FACADES ALONG WITH THE ZEN PROPOSED ADDITIONS TO THE SITE. UM, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS EXHIBIT, UM, I THINK IS A GREAT, UM, YOU KNOW, EXHIBIT OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED FOR THOSE TWO STRUCTURES, UM, AND WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO, TO PROPOSE AGAIN, UM, FOR ALL THREE, THIS TIME, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, IN 2014, UM, NINE 11 CONGRESS WAS ADDING TO THE PROJECT AND SIMILAR PLANS TO DISMANTLE AND RECONSTRUCT THE FACADES WERE BROUGHT BEFORE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS COMMITTEE. AGAIN, NEXT SLIDE. UM, HERE'S A PORTION OF THE BACKUP FROM THAT APPLICATION DESCRIBING THE STRUCTURAL REVIEW, AGAIN, SORT OF SIMILAR, I THINK, TO WHAT WE WOULD BE PRODUCING FOR YOU THIS TIME, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE 10, UM, IN 2015, THAT DECONSTRUCTION APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO THE FULL HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION AND THE COMMISSION ASKED FOR A MORE DETAILED PLAN MOVING ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE. UH, IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE BACKUP, FROM THAT TIME, IT LOOKS LIKE THE COMMISSION NEVER VOTED ON THE COMPLETE PLAN AT THAT TIME, MOVING ON TO SLIDE 12, UM, IN 2018, THE DECONSTRUCTION PLAN WAS AGAIN, PRESENTED TO THE FULL HLC, UM, WITHOUT ACTION TAKEN, BECAUSE AGAIN, THE COMMISSION WAS LOOKING FOR MORE DETAILED INFORMATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, THIS IS WHERE WE, AGAIN, WE, WE GOT CLOSE OR, OR THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME GOT CLOSE, UM, BUT WAS NEVER ABLE TO TURN IN THOSE VERY DETAILED PLANS. UM, SO THE COMMISSION APPROVED THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. GENERALLY, I BELIEVE WITH A REQUEST THAT THE APPLICANT TO COMMUNICATE WHERE THE FACADES WOULD BE STORED. UM, AND THEN MOVING ON TO SLIDE 15. UM, UNFORTUNATELY AT THAT TIME, THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS NOT ABLE TO GET THE COMMISSION, THE INFORMATION THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, AND THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO APPROVE THE ACTUAL PERMIT TO JUST MANTLE AND RECONSTRUCT THE FACADE. THEN MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, 15 FAST FORWARD TO WHERE WE ARE NOW, UM, LAST FALL, UM, A CODE VIOLATION WAS FILED AGAINST THE SITE. NEXT SLIDE. UM, HERE, YOU CAN SEE, UM, A PORTION OF THAT, OF THAT VIOLATION. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE WERE A VARIETY OF ISSUES THAT WERE NAMED IN THAT COMPLAINT. UM, NEXT SLIDE, 17. THIS IS SORT OF WHAT I DESCRIBED AT THE BEGINNING OF MY PRESENTATION. THIS IS WHEN [01:35:01] YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TO THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION. A COUPLE OF TIMES, WE DID PRESENT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE A COUPLE OF TIMES. UM, WE TRIED TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL IN FEBRUARY, BUT THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT. UM, AND WE HAVE INSTALLED SOME REPAIRS TO NOT REPAIRS, BUT SOME SORT OF, UM, SOME, SOME THINGS TO HOLD THE FACADE IN PLACE FOR THE BUILDING AND STANDARD COMMISSION'S DIRECTION. UM, VERY RECENTLY, UM, NEXT SLIDE, THERE'S A PICTURE OF THOSE PROTECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE PER THE BUILDING AND STANDARD COMMITTEES REQUESTS. UM, I'LL BE REPORTING AGAIN TO BUILDING AND STANDARDS LATER THIS WEEK, I'M ON A TIMELINE FOR THE ACTUAL PERMIT TO BEGIN DOING THE WORK, UM, BASED ON UL'S DIRECTION AND INPUT TONIGHT AT THIS MEETING. UM, AND THEN THE NEXT SIDE 19 IS THE TIMELINE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE FROM HERE ON OUT, UM, WITH YOUR INPUT AND DIRECTION ON THE PROPOSED SCOPE, WHICH WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR BACKUP. UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A DETAILED DECONSTRUCTION AND RECONSTRUCTION PLAN, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'VE REQUESTED IN THE PAST. UM, AND AT THAT TIME WOULD BE ABLE TO THEN GET THE BUILDING PERMIT NEEDED TO DISMANTLE THE BUILDINGS AND FACADES. UM, WE WILL THEN BE SUBMITTING, LIKE I SAID, EARLY ON A NEW SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. UM, SINCE THE ONE FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO HAS EXPIRED AND THAT SITE PLAN WOULD THEN COME BACK TO COMMISSION FOR REVIEW. UM, WE'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WITHIN THREE YEARS OF THE DEMOLITION, WE WOULD HAVE THE FACADE REBUILT, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT. IDEALLY. UM, NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO TO SUMMARIZE, WE WERE WORKING TO BEGIN THAT DISMANTLING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SPECIFICALLY PER THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION'S DIRECTION OR, OR, UM, FOR THE, THE REQUEST, UM, DUE TO THE VIOLATION. UM, AND SO, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, HAVE YOUR PERMISSION TO HAVE STEVE SEDOWSKY APPROVE THAT, THAT PERMIT ADMINISTRATIVELY, AS SOON AS OUR REPORT IS, IS READY. UH, ASSUMING THAT IT DOES MEET, UM, THE DIRECTION THAT WE GET FROM YOU TONIGHT, UM, SO THAT WE CAN THEN, UM, THIS MANTLE OF THE FACADE, GET THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT AND REVIEW, UM, AND BE WORKING TOWARD GETTING THOSE BUILDINGS, UM, RESURRECTED, WHICH IS REALLY THE MAIN GOAL. UM, SO THE FINAL SIDE ON 21, UH, IS OUR SORT OF OUR REQUEST OVERALL, WHICH WOULD BE THAT DIRECTION WITH RESPECT TO METHODS OF DECONSTRUCTION AND PRESERVATION AND ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL OF THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT, UM, PER THAT DIRECTION. UM, SO I'M OF COURSE, AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. AND LIKE I SAID, UM, DONNA CARTER IS ALSO ON THE LINE AND ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THAT SCOPING DOCUMENT THAT WE POSTED FOR YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. IT WAS DONNA SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. YES, YES, I BELIEVE I AM. OKAY, DONNA. HI. HI, HOW'S EVERYONE THIS EVENING. WE'RE OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S GOOD. UM, I DO NOT HAVE ANY SLIDES YOU DO HAVE, UM, IN YOUR PACKET AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR ITS TARDINESS. UM, BUT I AM ACTUALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE THIS PROJECT WHERE THIS, UH, THE ISSUES AROUND THE THREE PROJECTS, UM, HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME, BUT I HAVE BEEN, UM, INVOLVED REALLY, UM, REALLY WITHIN THE LAST 10 DAYS. UM, AND SO FOR ME, IT WAS PRUDENT TO KIND OF STEP BACK AND REALLY GO THROUGH IT SYSTEMATICALLY, WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN AND, AND THEREFORE WHAT COULD HAPPEN. UM, I UNDERSTAND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS RELYING VERY HEAVILY ON, UM, LOOKING AT IT AS A REHABILITATION OR RENOVATION PROJECT. BUT MY CONCERN UNFORTUNATELY, IS THAT THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDINGS AT THIS TIME AND THE CONDITION SPECIFICALLY OF THE FACADE IS THAT, UM, IT, THE INTEGRITY OF THAT STRUCTURALLY, UM, QUITE HONESTLY, REALLY IS NOT THERE. UM, THERE MAY BE PARTS OF IT THAT ARE STRUCTURALLY FOUND, BUT, UM, AS A WHOLE, I CANNOT SAY THAT, THAT IT IS, AND THEREFORE WOULD HAVE TO RECOMMEND AT THIS POINT THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT VERY SERIOUSLY AS A RECONSTRUCTION AND THEN DO EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR POWER TO, UM, DO THAT IN THE CORRECT AND PROPER MANNER. UM, LOOKING TO THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR AND SEEING THIS AS A WAY TO PRESERVE, UM, A, A FACE IN THE CONGRESS AVENUE, HISTORIC DISTRICT, THAT IF IT WERE TO DISAPPEAR, THAT WOULD BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE. SO WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WORK, UM, I DO WANT TO, UH, SHOW THAT WE WILL BE DOCUMENTING [01:40:01] WHAT WE HAVE, UM, AND DOCUMENTING THAT VERY EXTENSIVELY. SOME WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON NINE OH SEVEN AND NINE OH NINE, NINE 11 HAS, UM, DOES NOT HAVE AS MUCH DOCUMENTATION. SO THAT WILL TAKE SOME TIME, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT THE COMPOSITION OF THE, THE BRICKS THEMSELVES ARE, WHAT, UM, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES. UM, SO I'D LIKE TO CATALOG THOSE. I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT THE MORTAR AND THEN THE SEQUENCE OF, UM, CONSTRUCTION AND INTERVENTIONS ON THAT STRUCTURE OR ON THE FACADE, SO THAT WE KNOW, UM, HOW WE WOULD HAVE TO, IN A SENSE, BE DECONSTRUCTED, UM, PREFERABLY IN, IN THAT, UH, SIMILAR ORDER, UH, THERE ARE OTHER MATERIALS, UM, BESIDES THE BRICK THERE'S STONE MASONRY, AND THEN THERE ARE METALS THAT WE SHOULD ALSO, UM, BE CATALOGING AND BE LOOKING AT VERY SERIOUSLY, UH, WITHIN THAT, UM, DOCU. SO, SO TO ME, THERE'S THE, THE WORK THAT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE DONE THERE IS THEN, UM, THE DOCUMENTATION OF THAT, SO THAT WE KNOW PRECISELY, UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN, UM, THOSE THREE BUILDINGS AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT AND PRESERVE THAT IN A WAY THAT CAN BE USEFUL AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER. UM, THE, IF THERE IS A SILVER LINING IN THIS IS THAT OBVIOUSLY TODAY WE HAVE MANY MORE TOOLS THAN WE HAD 10 YEARS AGO, UM, TO OUR DISPOSAL IN ORDER TO NOT ONLY GET THE INFORMATION, BUT PRESERVE THE INFO, UM, THE INFORMATION, AND THEN USE IT REALLY ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS WHEN THE WORK IS BEING DONE. SO WE HAVE WAYS OF MEASURING BOTH WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT WHERE IT IS NOW, WHAT IT'S DISPLACEMENT, WHAT IT'S, UH, UM, ANY STRESSES THAT IT'S UNDER AND WHAT STRESS, HOW THAT, HOW THOSE STRESSES ARE, UM, ARE WORKING WITH THE FACADE AND WHAT WE MAY HAVE TO DO TO COUNTERBALANCE THOSE, THOSE STRESSES. AND THAT CAN BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE WORK THROUGH, UM, THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO, UM, THE, SO MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT WOULD BE TO LOOK AT, UH, NINE OH SEVEN AND NINE 11. I KNOW THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE HAD WANTED THE, UM, NINE OH NINE TO PERHAPS BE ABLE TO BE LEFT IN PLACE. BUT, UM, I, THERE QUITE HONESTLY, JUST MORE, UM, INVESTIGATION WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION. AND I CANNOT SAY FOR SURE TONIGHT WHETHER THAT COULD OCCUR, BUT THE TOOLS THAT WE DO HAVE, UM, WHETHER IT'S, UH, SCANNING OR MEASUREMENT, THE, UM, ANALYSIS THAT WE CAN DO ON THE BUILDING COMPONENTS THEMSELVES. UM, I DO FEEL THAT WE CAN DOCUMENT HOW IT WAS CONSTRUCTED AND CATALOG, UH, THE PIECES OF THE BUILDING AND, UM, THEIR CONDITION. UM, I THINK WITH CARE WITH MONITORING OF THE DECONSTRUCTION, AS IT OCCURS, TREATING THIS, UM, QUITE FRANKLY, ALMOST AS AN ARCHEOLOGICAL SITE, UM, THAT THAT CAN BE, UH, CATALOGED, UM, GRITTED AND, UM, THE PALLIATIVE, UH, DOCUMENTED AND STORED IN A, UM, PROTECTED AREA. AND THEN RECONSTRUCTED IN THAT SAME MANNER, THE OTHER TWO ASPECTS OF THE RECONSTRUCTION ARE, UM, THE FACADES REALLY NEED TO BE, UM, CAREFULLY THOUGHT OF IN TERMS OF HOW THEY INTERACT WITH ANY NEW REDEVELOPMENT. AND SO THAT IS AS IMPORTANT AS THE DECONSTRUCTION ITSELF. AND THEN FINALLY, BECAUSE IT IS A RECONSTRUCTION, I FEEL THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE INTERPRETATION OF WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE A RECONSTRUCTION WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT THE, THE VALUE OF THAT RECONSTRUCTION, BUT ALSO, UM, TO, IN A SENSE, LEARN SOME LESSONS ABOUT WHAT WE'VE LOST, BECAUSE IT IS A RECONSTRUCTION AND THAT SIGNAGE AND THAT DIFFERENTIATION DIFFERENTIATION, UM, I BELIEVE IS VERY IMPORTANT, UM, FROM A HISTORICAL AND A PROFESSIONAL POINT OF, UH, POINT OF VIEW. [01:45:02] UM, I REALIZED THIS WAS A COMPLEX ISSUE. I REALIZED THAT IT IS ONE THAT, UM, HAS A VERY LONG HISTORY, UM, BUT I'M HOPEFUL THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, AT LEAST LAY OUT IF NOT AN OUTLINE AT THIS POINT, UM, IN A WAY FORWARD THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THIS OBVIOUSLY WOULD, UM, PRODUCE A SET OF, UH, QUITE DETAILED, UH, WORKING DOCUMENTS AS WELL AS SPECIFICATIONS. AND THEN THE REQUIREMENT FOR ON-SITE OBSERVATION AS THE WORK PROCEEDS, UM, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THIS AS, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE HERE AT THE BEGINNING, BUT WE'RE HAVING THE SPEAKER SPEAK FIRST AND HE CAN STAY ON THE LINE. IN CASE WE HAVE QUESTIONS DOWN THE LINE. I WOULD SAY THAT WHILE I CAN'T SPEAK TO SOME OF THE EARLIER DELAYS STARTS AND STOPS. ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CONCERNS HERE IS THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A PLAN FOR DOING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE SAID MOSTLY WE'VE HAD. UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS TOLD TO US WAS THAT WE WILL RETAIN ALL THE BRICKS AND THE STONE AND EVERYTHING WAREHOUSE THEM, AND THEN PUT THEM BACK AND HAVEN'T HAD A PLAN. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT ACTUAL STEPS IN THIS PROCESS, UH, IS A WAY FORWARD JUST IN AND OF ITSELF, BUT WE'LL GET, UM, WE'LL GET TO THAT ITEM WHEN IT COMES UP ON THE AGENDA. I GATHER COMBAT, I CAN'T GO AND HAVE DINNER RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET BACK ON, UH, WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR GETTING BACK ON, BRING ME SOMETHING, UM, I'M HUNGRY HERE, BUT NO, UM, YOU CAN STAY, OR YOU CAN, OR YOU CAN LEAVE THE LINE. AND, UM, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE WILL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I DO KNOW THAT ONE THING WE WERE NOT LOOKING FOR WAS A RECONSTRUCTION, UM, TO THAT, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT WHEN, WHEN IT COMES UP ON OUR AGENDA, UH, NEXT, I'M SORRY FOR THIS KIND OF CONVOLUTED WAY OF DOING THINGS, BUT, UM, THE NEXT STUDY AND WE HAVE IS UNDER DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS WITHIN A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. AND WE HAVE C1 FIESTA GARDENS. UH, JESSE'S SEGOVIA ON JUST STRAIGHT. I'M SORRY, OUR FIRST SPEAKER ON ITEM C ONE WILL BE OKAY, MR. PLEASE GO AHEAD, MR. TOPPLE, ARE YOU THERE? YES. OKAY. PLEASE GO STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND PLEASE GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION. YES. MY NAME IS MARK TOP ONE WITH CLAYTON CORDIE. UH, WE'RE PRESENTING ON THIS. YES, THE GARDEN STREET FACILITATION, BUT IF YOU CAN START ON SLIDE FOUR, UH, TO RECAP THIS PROJECT, WE PRESENTED TO ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE IN NOVEMBER. UH, SO WE WON'T RECAP EVERYTHING IN THERE, BUT THE SLIDES ARE AVAILABLE IF NEEDED. UH, BUT STARTING ON SLIDE FOUR, THE, UH, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED ALONG THE SHORES OF FOR LADY BIRD LAKE. UH, THE PROJECT SITE ITSELF IS A HISTORIC EXHIBIT FACILITY, UH, FOUNDED IN 1963, AS SOON AFTER TAKEN BY THE CITY OF TAKEN OVER BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN OPERATED CONTINUE AS IT, UH, FIT CENTER EVER SINCE, UH, MOVE ON TO SLIDE SIX, PLEASE, TWO SLIDES FURTHER. AND THE PROGRAM OF THE FACILITY IS TO REMAIN. AND THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT IS MAINLY A REHABILITATION OF FAILING HISTORIC FEATURES AND BRINGING THE COMPLEX AND ALL OF ITS BUILDINGS INTO, UH, ACCESSIBLE AND CODE COMPLIANCE. NEXT SLIDE. UH, WE HAVE DEVELOPED THE, UH, PLAN SINCE NOVEMBER TO INCLUDE, UH, ELEMENTS THAT THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS BROUGHT UP NAMELY, UH, PARK FACILITIES ALONG THE STREET, WHICH HAD BEEN ADDED TO THE PROJECT. UH, AND THEN MINOR DETAILS HAVE BEEN, UH, EVOLVED TO A FURTHER MASTER LIST OR CHARACTER TEXTURES, DETAILED PATTERNS. OTHERWISE THE COMPLEX, THE CONCEPT IS STILL VERY MUCH THE SAME AS WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED. UH, WHAT WE DO WANT TO FOCUS ON IS ONE OF THE STRUCTURES, THE HISTORIC BANDSTAND AREA, WHICH IS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURES, BUT IT HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE ITS ORIGINAL USE, UH, ON SLIDE EIGHT. [01:50:02] UM, UH, THIS WAS A, UH, ELEVATED PERFORMANCE STAGE THAT ORIGINALLY HAD A LIGHT STEEL STRUCTURE ON IT. UH, THAT WAS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE REST OF THE FACILITY, WHICH MAINLY HAD, UH, EXPOSED WOOD TEMPERS AND KIND OF HEAVIER MASONRY CONSTRUCTION. UH, IN SOMEWHERE AROUND THE EARLY EIGHTIES, THE STRUCTURE DID CHANGE TO A ALL WOOD STRUCTURE ON A CONCRETE SLAB. AND THEN IN LATER YEARS, A, UH, AN ACCESSIBLE RAMP WAS ADDED, UH, ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE STRUCTURE. AND THEN MORE RECENTLY YOUR C KIND OF WOOD STRUCTURE HAS BECOME TO FAIL. SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO, UM, AND THEN THERE'S AN EXISTING STAIR THAT IS NOT COMPLIANT. NOTE CODE COMPLIANT, SELF-LOCKING HEAD RAILS, AND A PROPER, A RISER HEIGHTS. SO WE WERE PROPOSING TO, UH, IF YOU'LL MOVE ON TO SLIDE, UH, NINE OR ACCESS TO FIVE 10, UM, TO RELOCATE THE VERTICAL CIRCULATION, BUT THE STAIR AND THE RAMP TO THE, UH, NON-PRIMARY ELEVATION TOWARDS THE SOUTH, HAVE A DEDICATED, UH, KIND OF PERFORMER ENTRANCE. THAT'S OFF OF THE HISTORIC PLAZA THAT TAKES THE 29 FOOT, UH, RAMP, UH, OUT OF THE PLAZA WHERE IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY AND PUTS THAT TOWARDS THE SOUTH. MEANWHILE, WE WOULD REBUILD ALL OF THE OVERHEAD WOOD STRUCTURE IN THIS, UH, TEMPER CONSTRUCTION TO MATCH THE KIND OF 1980S PRECEDENT THAT IS CURRENTLY KNOWN, UH, AS THE KIND OF HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THE SITE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN WHERE, UH, ON THE EASTERN END OF THIS, WE WOULD EXTEND THE SLAB EASTWARD ABOUT EIGHT FEET AND LET THAT RAMP COME TO A NEW FLUSH LANDING THAT IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, UH, THE FOOTPRINT AND THEN RE CENTER THE STRUCTURE AROUND A DESK, WHICH ITSELF CENTERS ON THE HISTORIC PLAUSIBLE LAYOUT, UH, THE DINING HALL TO THE NORTH. YOU CAN SEE ALONG THAT BLUE LINE IS THE CENTER OF THAT BUILDING. AND THEN THERE ARE TWO HISTORIC PLANTER LOCATIONS ON THE PLAZA. IT'S ALL THIS MATCHES THAT SYMMETRY, UH, TO GO TO THE NEXT SIDE, YOU'LL SEE IT IN PLACE ON THE PLAZA AGAIN, UH, RETURNING IT TO THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF, UH, THE TYPICAL DETAILS OF THE SITE, REHABILITATING THE STRUCTURE AND BARRICADED INTO, UH, CODE. AND WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL TO PROCEED WITH THIS AS THE DESIGN, IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER LARGER PORTIONS OF THE SITE THAT WE'VE REVIEWED IN DETAILED WITH. Y'ALL. THANKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? YEAH. YES. MADAM CHAIR. WE HAVE MR. QUIRING ON THE LINE AS WELL. OKAY, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND BEGIN SPEAKING. UM, IF MR. FIRINGS IS NOT AVAILABLE, UH, WE ONLY HAD HIM AVAILABLE IN CASE WE NEEDED TO, UM, ELABORATE ON OTHER ITEMS THEN IF THERE ARE NOT OTHER SPEAKERS, WE'LL GO ONTO THE NEXT ITEM. UM, I THINK OUR NEXT ITEM HERE [3.C.2. GF-2020-171512 – 1517 Murray Lane – Consent Old West Austin Historic District Council District 9] IS C TWO 1517 MURRAY LANE. THIS WAS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA, BUT A NEIGHBOR WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM. UM, SO IS THAT SPEAKER ON THE, ON THE LINE? UH, MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE SEVERAL, UM, SPEAKERS IN FAVOR AS WELL AS IT LOOKS LIKE ONE OPPOSED. UM, WOULD YOU PREFER TO TAKE THE SPEAKERS IN FAVOR FIRST OR, UH, TAKE THE FAVORABLE, MAYBE SOME OF THE SPEAKERS IN FAVOR CAN CONVINCE THE ONE WHO'S OPPOSED. JUST HOLD ON JUST A SECOND COMMISSIONER SET BEFORE THE SPEAKER START, UM, RECOGNIZING THE TIME. OH, BUT I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT WE HAD A TIMER ON TODAY. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ASK, IS ANYBODY TIMING, SPEAKERS, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING OVER. UM, DO YOU HEAR THE TIMER? WE HAD A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS WHERE I THINK IT WAS NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY, BUT HAVE YOU HEARD THE TIMER AT ALL? OKAY. WE'LL BE SURE TO CHIME. AND THEN WHEN WE HIT THAT MARK, WE HEAR IT IN THE ROOM HERE. OKAY. W I [01:55:01] HAVE NOT HEARD IT ONCE. WELL, WE SURE HOPE I DON'T HAVE TO USE IT IN. EVERYBODY CAN BE BRIEF. YES. IF WE'VE HEARD IT BEFORE, WE PROBABLY REMEMBER. OKAY. IF NOBODY WORKS WITH TIME WHERE WE ALL GET ICE CREAM AT THE END. OKAY. 17 MARIE LANG, PLEASE. THE FIRST PERSON IN FAVOR, PLEASE SPEAK SPEAKER IN FAVOR IS MR. MICK WALTERS. HELLO? HELLO. HELLO. HELLO, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD. YES, THIS IS TOM WALTERS AND I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THE CLAIMANTS ON THEIR RENOVATION AND ADDITION. UM, SO AGAIN, WHAT JUST TO BE, AS YOU WERE SAYING, TO BE BRIEF WHAT WE'VE COME ON BOARD AND THEN TRY TO BE VERY RESPECTFUL OF THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURAL INTENT WITH THE RENOVATION AND THE ADDITION. SO WHAT'S OUR PROPOSAL IS TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL FRONT FACADE AND THEN KIND OF WE'RE REBUILDING THE REST, REFRAMING IT AND WHATNOT. SO WE ARE, BUT KEEPING THE FRONTS AND RESTORING THAT. SO PART OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IN, IN THIS IS TO, BECAUSE OF THE REDOING THE STRUCTURAL WORK IS THAT THE, THE ROOF LINE GOES UP BY ALMOST TWO FEET, JUST AGAIN, TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FRAMING SIZES AND WHATNOT. WE'VE, WE'VE ADDED A EXTENDED PORCH ON THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO HELP PROTECT THE ORIGINAL, UH, FRAMING AND SIDING OF THE HOUSE AND THE WINDOW, UM, AND THE REST OF THE HOUSE, THE TWO SIDES THAT YOU CAN ROUGHLY SEE FROM THE STREET, WE'RE KEEPING IN THE ORIGINAL INTENT, AS FAR AS THE DETAIL, THE SIDING, THE MATERIAL, ALL THAT. UM, UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TAKING THIS. AND AGAIN, I KNOW, I KNOW THE SLIDES, SO THE, THE SLIDE THAT'S UP NOW IS THE, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AS WE SEE AT THE PROPOSED. AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TWO EXTENSIONS FOR THE PORCH ARE IN KEEPING WITH THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURAL, DEEP DETAILING. SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE RENDERING, THAT'S UP THAT AGAIN IS THE VIEW FROM THE STREET IT'S KEEPING KIND OF WHAT THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURE AND THE DETAILING AND THE WAY WE'VE DONE THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S THE SIMPLEST WAY TO KIND OF DESCRIBE KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. THANK YOU. AND FOR THE COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT ON THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, THEY HAVE, UH, THE APPLICANTS, THE OWNERS HAVE GONE BACK, UM, WITH A PRESERVATION PLAN TO PRESERVE, UM, MOST OF THE, UH, ORIGINAL HISTORIC BUILDING. SO WOULD THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GIVE YOUR YEAH. RIGHT. I HAVE A NAS AND MR. KLAYMAN ARE NEXT ON OUR LIST. I, THIS IS, UH, JOSH CLAIM THAT I'M HERE WITH JACKIE, MY WIFE, UM, LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR YOUR TIME AND NOT, I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF AS WELL. UH, WE'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION AS YOU KNOW, A FEW TIMES WITH THIS PROJECT AGAIN, WITH THE RENOVATION PLAN, AND THEN LARGELY BASED ON SOME QUESTION, WHAT BIAS WE MOVED TO COMPLETE DEMOLITION WITH THE NEW DESIGN, UM, AND THEN BASED ON STRONG OBJECTIONS TO THAT FULL DEMOLITION, WE REVERTED BACK TO A PARTIAL DEMO AND RENOVATION AS DESCRIBED BY TOM, UM, FURTHER TO OUR SUCCESSFUL INFORMALLY RC MEETING IN FEBRUARY. WE, WE FEEL THAT WE'VE WORKED HARD TO ACCOMMODATE THE INTEREST OF THE NEIGHBORS AND THE SEDIMENT OF THE VH LLC. UM, WE'VE NOW BASED ON, UH, A GREAT DEAL OF CONSIDERATION AND, AND FRANKLY EXPENSE SUBMITTED A PLAN THAT KEEPS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND UPDATES TO THE HOUSE IN A WAY THAT REFLECTS THE FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE WAY, UM, THE HOUSE WILL, WILL THEN IT'S FUTURE OWNERS FOR ANOTHER A HUNDRED YEARS. WE HOPE WE BELIEVE WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY AND REASONABLY LIZ TO CONCERNS AND MERGE THESE CONCERNS INTO OUR OWN REQUIREMENTS. UM, WE, WE, UM, SO I THINK I'LL LEAVE IT THERE FOR NOW, BUT I THINK YOU'LL REMEMBER OUR PREVIOUS, UM, VISITS WITH THE COMMISSION AND, AND, UH, WE THANK YOU FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANOTHER SPEAKER IN FAVOR? OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE AT DR. PSYCHER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M A LORI HOLLERAN SPEAKER. I'M HERE WITH MY HUSBAND WHERE [02:00:01] WE LIVE AT 15, 15 MARY LANE AND WE'RE NEIGHBORS. AND, UM, WE, UM, WHILE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE, UH, FACADE PRESERVES, THE HISTORIC LOOK OF THE HOME WERE CONFUSED BECAUSE THE MATERIALS DON'T INCLUDE ANY SPECS OR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, UM, DEMOLITION OF THE BACK HOUSE, NOR THE, UM, SPECIFICATIONS ON THE NEW GARAGE, THE ADDITIONAL STORY ON THE GARAGE, THE HEIGHT, THE MATERIALS, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE PROPERTY AND THE DISTANCE FROM OUR PROPERTY. I BELIEVE THE ORIGINAL GARAGE WAS GRANDFATHERED, UH, IN PROXIMITY TO OUR HOUSE. SO, UM, WE JUST HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, AND THERE WAS NOTHING OTHER THAN THE, THE BACKGROUND OF THE RENDERING OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE THAT SPOKE TO THE, WHAT WAS GOING TO BE DONE IN THE BACK. AND, AND I WONDER, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS WOULD EVEN WARRANT DELAY SO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO, UH, PUBLIC REVIEW OF THE DEMOLITION OF THE BACK OR THE, THE DESIGN OF THE SECOND STORY AND THE GARAGE, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. WE MAY INCLUDE THAT IN OUR DISCUSSION. IS THERE ANOTHER SPEAKER IN FAVOR? WE HAVE, UH, MR. EDMONDS RUSSELL, UH, RICK RUSSELL HERE, RUSSELL HERE, I LIVE AT 15, 19 MURRAY LINE, ALSO A NEIGHBOR OF THE CLAIMANTS, AND I'LL KEEP IT QUITE BRIEF. UM, THIS, THIS, WE WERE, UH, WE WERE OPPOSED THE ORIGINAL HEADSPACE FOR DEMOLITION. UH, I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST PROBABLY APPROPRIATE THAT WE PUBLICLY SAY THAT WE ARE IN SABRE AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE NEW DESIGN AND, AND, UH, TO ACTUALLY CONGRATULATE THE CLAIMANTS ON FINDING A WAY. I KNOW IT WAS THEIR ORIGINAL DESIRE TO RETAIN THE HOME AND TO RENOVATE FROM THERE. SO I THINK THAT SUCCESSFULLY ACCOMPLISHED THAT AND, UH, UH, HOPE THEY'RE EXCITED AND, UH, PLEASE, UH, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD. SO THAT'S, WE JUST WANTED TO GET THAT, TO GET THAT OUT THERE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M SURE THEY APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE? MADAM CHAIR, THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP IN FAVOR, BUT WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION. OKAY, PLEASE. MAY WE HAVE THAT SPEAKERS STATE YOUR NAME AND STATE YOUR CASE? AND THIS WILL BE MS. LEHMAN PLEASE. MS. LEHMAN. OKAY. UH, OUR IT STAFF IS SAYING THAT, UH, THE MEMBERS SHE PROVIDED IS NOT IN THE MEETING PRESENTLY. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE WAS NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT AS, AS PRESENTLY PROPOSED. UM, BUT I BELIEVE DID HAVE SOME THOUGHTS THAT SHE WANTED TO SHARE. SO UNFORTUNATELY WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM HER AS SHE'S NOT HERE PRESENTLY. OKAY. UM, THEN WE'LL [3.C.3. GF-2021-007465 – 1007 Maufrais Street – Discussion West Line Historic District Council District 9] GO ONTO THE NEXT CASE C THREE. THIS IS 1,007 NOW FRAY STRAIGHT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER UP TONIGHT IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT IS MR. LOGAN. AND THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING. MR. LOGAN. OKAY. HI, UH, THANKS FOR, UH, HEARING OUR CASE TONIGHT. MY NAME'S ANDREW LOGAN, AND, UM, I, UH, ALSO LIVE WITHIN 500 FEET OF THIS PROJECT AT 12 TWO MARSHALL LANE. UM, I'M REPRESENTING MY CLIENTS, SARAH AND JUSTIN THOMAS, WHO HAD LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE FOR A LITTLE OVER SEVEN YEARS. AND, UH, THEY BOUGHT THIS LOT IN THE FALL, IN THE HOPES OF, UH, HAVING MORE SPACE FOR THEIR FAMILY AND BEING A LITTLE MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UM, THEY, THEIR PRIMARY ATTRACTIONS TO THE LOT WHERE THE LARGE TREES IN THE FRONT YARD. UM, AND OUR MAIN DESIGN GOAL STARTING OUT WAS TO INCREASE STREET CONNECTIVITY. UM, BEYOND WHAT THE CURRENT FRONT PORCH ON THE HOME IS ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE. UH, WE WENT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE IN JANUARY, UM, UNDER THE, THE, UM, APPROACH OF MAINTAINING A PORTION OF THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. UM, BUT WITH THE [02:05:01] REQUEST TO ELIMINATE THE FRONT PORCH, THE EXISTING FRONT PORCH OF THE HOME, SO THAT WE COULD, UM, BUILD THEM A MUCH LARGER, MUCH MORE ACCOMMODATING FRONT PORCH THAT WOULD, UH, ALLOW THEM TO HANG OUT IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IN GROUPS AND, UH, JUST HAVE INCREASED STREET CONNECTIVITY. UH, IT WAS EVIDENT AFTER THAT MEETING THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE CONTRIBUTING CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY, UM, IF THE EXISTING FRONT PORCH WAS REMOVED. AND SO WE ARE NOW PURSUING A DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING HOME, UM, AND I NEW CONSTRUCTION OF, UH, A DESIGN THAT WE FEEL IS SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FABRIC. AND ALSO, UM, WE'LL GIVE THE THOMASES, THE ENLARGED, UH, AND, UH, MUCH MORE STREET PRESENT FRONT PORCH THAT THEY ARE DESIRING. UM, IN ADDITION TO GETTING, UM, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, THAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR, THEIR FAMILY. IF YOU GO TO THE VERY LAST SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE, UM, THE PROPOSED NEW DESIGN, UM, GO, GO ONE FURTHER. THE VERY LAST, IF YOU WILL, TO THE PERSPECTIVES, I THINK IT IS ON THE LAST IT HAS A SWIMMING. OKAY. UM, MINE'S MY VIEW IS PROBABLY DELAYED. UM, THE, SO THE, THE HOPE WITH THIS NEW DESIGN IS THAT WE MAKE A NOD UP, SO PLEASE WRAP UP QUICKLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, JUST THAT WE MAKE A NOD TO THE, TO THE EXISTING, THE EXISTING HOME AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AND WITH A, UH, A MUCH MORE, UH, ACCOMMODATING STREET PRESENCE. UH, AND I'LL, I'LL WRAP IT UP THERE. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? I'M NOT I'M HERE. WE HAVE MR. AND MS. THOMAS, UH, BOTH ON THE LINE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. OKAY, JEN, TO MAKE IT BRIEF. THANKS. YOU. HI, WILL BE BRUCE. UH, THIS IS JUSTIN THOMAS, ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY WITH MY WIFE, AND WE JUST WANT TO SAY WE'VE LIVED IN CLARKSVILLE FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS AS ANDREW STATED. UH, WE'VE GOT TWO KIDS AT MATTHEWS ELEMENTARY, JUST DOWN THE STREET, AND THIS IS, UH, THIS IS THE DREAM HOME WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD. SO WE ARE, UH, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY AND APPRECIATE YOU ALL. LISTEN TO US. THANK YOU. ANYTHING FURTHER, THE OTHER SPEAKER, OUR LAST SPEAKER ON THIS CASE, UH, IS MS. WILLIAMS, MS. WILLIAMS STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND SPEAK. MAYBE WE'VE LOST HARRIS WILLIAMS. OKAY. UM, WELL WE CAN GO ON TO SEE SIX 16 BEFORE WE MOVE ON. I UNDERSTAND THAT ROBYN LEMON IS ON THE LINE AND, UH, I APOLOGIZE THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO HEAR YOU EARLIER, ROBIN, IF YOU WERE THERE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO PROCEED, IS THIS THE SAME CASE? THIS IS GOING BACK TO SEE TWO 15, 17 MARIE. THIS WAS THE FINAL SPEAKER FOR THAT CASE. SO, UM, SHE, SHE APOLOGIZED. SHE'S LIKE, I'M SO SORRY. I'M LIKE, YEAH, I WAS SITTING THERE LIKE, WHY CAN YOU NOT HEAR ME? SO WHY DON'T WE HOLD OFF FOR THE SECOND AND LET HER CALL ME SPEAKING. OKAY. IS ROBIN LEMON ON THE LINE? I AM. OKAY. PLEASE GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND MAKE YOUR CASE. OH, OKAY. I'M ROBIN LEHMAN. I'M CALLING REGARDING 15, 13, 15, 17 MURRAY LANE. I LIVE AT 15, 13 MURRAY LANE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OPPOSITION IS REALLY THE RIGHT. I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE MANY OPTIONS, BUT I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE LATEST, UH, RENDERINGS, UM, OF THE, AND IT WASN'T REALLY SO MUCH THE DESIGN, WHICH I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. IT SEEMS WAY MORE IN KEEPING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I, I VERY MUCH LIKED THE DESIGN, UM, MY CONCERN, AND IT KIND OF STEMS FROM THE FACT OF WHAT IS BEEN SUBMITTED [02:10:01] AS, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED WORK. AND IT TALKS ABOUT DEMOLISHING THE EXISTING FOUNDATIONS AND FRAMING. AND I GUESS MY CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST GOT PAST THE DEMOLITION PERMIT AND ARE, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO DEMOLISH ALL THE FRAMING AND THE FOUNDATION. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME REQUIREMENT THAT IF THAT DOES HAPPEN, THAT THIS PLAN BE HONORED, UM, AND GONE THROUGH. AND IS IT CHANGED, UH, DRAMATICALLY FROM WHAT'S BEING SUBMITTED RIGHT NOW? SO, YOU KNOW, IN SECTION ONE, IT SAYS JUST DUE TO THE AGE, EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED. AND THAT OF COURSE RAISES A RED FLAG BASED UPON THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION FOR A TOTAL DEMOLITION OF THE PROPERTY. UM, AND THEN, UM, ALSO JUST, YOU KNOW, AND TO THAT POINT, UH, LET ME HANG ON, SORRY. UH, YOU KNOW, W THE STANDARD IS THAT BEING THE, THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THEIR PROPERTY SHALL BE RETAINED AND PRESERVED AND REMOVAL OF THE MATERIALS AND ALTERATIONS OF THE FEATURES, YOU KNOW, SHALL BE AVOIDED. THEN AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THE FRAMING IN PARTICULAR FOUNDATION, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE ALL REPURPOSED OUR FOUNDATIONS AT THIS POINT, BUT THE FRAMING, IF IT'S REFRAMED IN A WAY THAT'S ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT WOULD BE KIND OF MORE TOWARDS THE POINT OF THE DEMOLITION THAT WE PREVIOUSLY OPPOSED. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'M, I LIKE THE NEW DESIGN. I THINK THEY'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB AT PRESERVING. WHAT IS THERE THAT MY, THAT IS MY ONLY CONCERN THOUGH, IS THAT THE SCOPE OF THE WORK DOES CALL FOR PRETTY MUCH THE DEMOLITION OF THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE. SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. AND THANKS FOR LISTENING. MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. WE'LL DISCUSS IT, UH, WHEN THE ITEM COMES UP. OKAY. DO WE NEED TO GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A REBUTTAL FOUR 15, 17 MARIE? OKAY. IT WAS FINE. REBA. WHAT I JUST HEARD. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YEAH. SORRY. THIS IS JOSH. UM, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED. SO WE PROPOSE THE DESIGN THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BASED ON THE FEEDBACK. AND NOW WE HAVE THESE DRONES OVER FRAMING. UM, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS IT. I GUESS I'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE, UM, THE COMMISSION TO ADDRESS, BUT WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING ANYTHING, BUT WHAT WE'VE SUBMITTED. AND IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE THERE'S A SUSPICION THAT WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH PLANS. MIDSTREAM. WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING THAT. THE DESIGN THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU WILL BE REFLECTED IN OUR DETAILED PERMITTING PLANS FOR THE CITY AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, CAN WE GO ON TO THE NEXT CASE, WHICH I THINK [3.C.6. PR-2021-003711 – 1623 Waterston Avenue – Discussion West Line Historic District Council District 9] IS C6 16, 23 WATERSTON AVENUE IN THE WEST LANE, HISTORIC MANAGER. I THINK WE DID HAVE A ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. IS THAT PERSON ON THE PHONE? WE ARE DISCUSSING 16, 23 WATERSTON. IF THERE'S SOMEONE ON THE PHONE AND WHAT'S A SPEAKER AT, PLEASE SAY, SO, HI, THIS IS ADVANCED COBS. UM, I'M THE BUILDER. ARTHUR AND ANDY ARE ON THE LINE AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR HIM OR NOT. OKAY. IF THEY'VE SIGNED UP, UH, WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. I BELIEVE IT'S ARTHUR. OKAY. THEN, UH, STATE YOUR NAME, YOUR FULL NAME. AND GO AHEAD PLEASE. UH, THIS IS ARTHUR. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES. WE CAN HEAR YOU. ARTHUR FARMIN. I'M, UH, THE ARCHITECT FOR THIS PROJECT. AND, UM, I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. UM, OUR GOAL WITH THIS IS TO SIMPLY CREATE A, UH, UH, A DWELLING FOR A MODERN FAMILY THAT FITS IN WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WE'VE TAKEN A COUPLE OF STRATEGIES TO DO THAT. UM, ONE IS KEEPING WITH A TEARDROP SIDING, THAT'S FOUND ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND ALSO IT IS A TWO STORY HOUSE, BUT WE WANTED TO PRESENT A ONE-STORY, [02:15:01] UH, FRONT. AND SO THE SECOND STORY IS PUSHED BACK FROM THE STREET TO, UM, KIND OF, UH, REDUCE THE SCALE, UM, APPEARANCE FROM THE FRONT. AND THE THIRD THING IS THAT, UM, WE'VE CHOSEN TO BRING THE CARS PARKING IN FROM THE BACK SEAT, CAUSE IT IS A THROUGH LOT. AND, UM, THAT'S IN KEEPING WITH ALMOST EVERY HOUSE ON THAT STREET, SO THAT THE WATERSON SIDE STREET, UM, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE A BUNCH OF GARAGE, UH, GARAGE DOORS FACING IT. SO, UM, DOPE. THOSE ARE AMONG OUR STRATEGIES TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL VOTE TO APPROVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, LET'S [3.C.7. HR-2021-026856– 2407 Jarratt Avenue – Discussion Old West Austin Historic District Council District 9] GO ON TO C7 24 OH SEVEN JARRETT AVENUE. WE HAVE MR. AND MS. KENSAL ON THE LINE, JARED AVENUE. WE'RE HERE. CAN Y'ALL HEAR US? YES. GREAT. SO STATE YOUR NAME AND PRESENT YOUR CASE. YOU BET. MY NAME IS TODD CAVENDER KENSAL. MY WIFE IS NATALIE. SHE'S HERE WITH ME. WE'LL JUST SPEAK AS ONE AND WE'LL BE INCREDIBLY BRIEF, UM, OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOUR TIME AND THANKS FOR LETTING US PARTICIPATE. UH, WE WE'VE BEEN IN THIS HOUSE FOR 11 YEARS, UH, 12 AND A HALF YEARS. UH, WE COULDN'T AFFORD TO BUY IT WHEN WE MOVED IN. SO WE RENTED IT. AND, UM, AFTER THREE YEARS OF RENTING, WE, WE, WE PURCHASED IT AND, UM, WE WE'VE RAISED THREE KIDS HERE, UH, 13, 11, AND 10, AND THEY ALL GO TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KASISTO. UH, WE LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LOVE THE STREETS. UH, MY WIFE'S WHAT HE PARENT TEACHER PRESIDENT. SO WE'RE HEAVILY INVESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY AND OUR STREET AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE. AND, UM, WE TRIED REALLY, REALLY HARD OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS TO MAKE THE HOUSE THAT WE'RE IN WORK. UM, IT JUST, IT JUST DOES, UM, ONE, IT WAS A DUPLEX THAT THEY'VE COMBINED AND THERE'S A LOT OF SHIFTING. THERE'S A LOT OF ELECTRICAL ISSUES, A LOT OF, UH, ROTTING WOOD, UH, WE'VE RE RENOVATED TWO BATHROOMS AND A KITCHEN. UM, WHEN IT RAINS, OUR DOORS DON'T SHUT. AND SO WE JUST, WE'VE REALLY STRUGGLED. AND OUR LOT DOESN'T DRAIN PARTICULARLY WELL. WE'VE HAD A DEM DEMOLISH A BACKHOUSE. IT WAS HERE WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. SO WE'VE EXPLORED EVERYTHING TO TRY TO MAKE IT WORK. HECK WE'VE EVEN EXPLORED. UM, BASED ON SOME RECOMMENDATIONS I'VE SEEN ABOUT RELOCATING THIS HOUSE, AND WE'RE VERY, WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH THAT AS WELL. UH, AND WE CAN GET INTO THAT IF NEEDED LATER. UH, BUT WHEN WE DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED TO TEAR THIS PROPERTY DOWN, OR THIS IMPROVEMENT DOWN TO REBUILD, WE'VE HIRED TWO ARCHITECTS, WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND BUILT TWO HOMES ON PAPER. UH, WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE ONE THAT MOST, UH, RESEMBLES AND BLENDS WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'VE TRIED REALLY, REALLY HARD. WE'VE, UH, SHARED ALL OF THESE PLANS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. WE'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK AND WE'VE INCORPORATED A LOT OF ELEMENTS ON HOMES ON OUR STREET, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAT ARE, UH, ABSOLUTELY REFLECTED IN THIS HOUSE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A LOT LIKE EVERYBODY, THAT'S JUST TRYING TO IMPROVE THEIR SITUATION ON THEIR LOT IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, WE'VE GIVEN IT OUR ABSOLUTE BEST SHOT. WE HAVE THREE ARCHITECTS INVOLVED AND, UM, AND WE'RE OPEN TO ANY COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS OR FEEDBACK. UH, BUT WE REALLY WANT TO TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND, AND BUILD A HOUSE, UH, FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S GOING TO LAST A LONG TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS CASE? SAY NO. OKAY. UM, OUR NEXT ITEM. OKAY. 1104 TOILET IS POSTPONED, I BELIEVE. AND WE GO ON TO D DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR DEMOLITION OR RELOCATION. UM, 56, 13 PATTON RANCH ROAD, PLEASE WITH, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ST. ANDREW'S, UM, SCHOOL. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GIVE YOUR CASE HERE. WE HAVE MR. JEFF HOWARD. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. AND THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MY NAME IS JEFF HOWARD AND I AM ON THE I'M A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR ST. ANDREW'S SCHOOL. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING. [02:20:01] UM, IF YOU RECALL, WE FIRST CAME BACK TO THE COMMISSION IN DECEMBER, UM, AND WE WERE POSTPONED AS, UM, THE COMMISSION WANTED US TO CONSIDER SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, INFORMATION AND, UH, WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT. UH, WE'VE ALSO HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH THE OAK HILL ASSOCIATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND SOME COMMUNITY HISTORIC PRESERVATIONISTS, AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S, YOU KNOW, GOOD INVOLVEMENT AND WE'VE LEARNED A LOT. UM, WE'VE ALSO TAKEN THE TIME OVER THE LAST, UH, THREE MONTHS OR SO TO CONSIDER WHAT OPTIONS WE MIGHT BE WILLING TO TAKE WITH THESE, UH, LOG CABINS ON THIS AND OTHER LOG STRUCTURES ON THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL. AND SO WITH THE, UH, GOOD COOPERATION FROM THE COMMUNITY, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COME UP WITH A REVISED PROPOSAL AND THAT'S IN YOUR BACKUP, UM, AS ITEM, I THINK IT'S, UM, UM, THE 1.1 PERHAPS, UM, AND BASICALLY THE REVISED PROPOSAL IS INSTEAD OF OUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, WHICH WAS TO DECONSTRUCT THE STRUCTURES AND DELIVER THEM TO PIONEER FARMS, UM, WHICH WAS, WHICH WAS SUPPORTED BY STAFF. AND WE THOUGHT WAS A GOOD RESULT. UM, HAVING HAD THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, THAT THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, KEEPING THE STRUCTURES IN THE OAK HILL AREA. WE NOW PROPOSING THAT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION ALLOW GRANT A PERMIT THAT ALLOWS PARTIAL DEMOLITION OF THE NON LOG COMPONENTS OF THESE STRUCTURES. AND TO ALLOW THE RELOCATION OF BOTH OF THOSE THREE LOG STRUCTURES, UH, TO ONE OF TWO OPTIONS, ONE WOULD BE AN OPTION, UH, IT'S SHOWN ON SCREEN. I THINK NOW, UM, AS OPTION ONE, WHICH WOULD BE THE SCHOOL SITE OPTION A, WHICH WOULD BE ON A PORTION OF THE EXISTING SCHOOL, THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROPOSAL ARE THAT IT WOULD BE CLOSER TO THE SCHOOL. WE COULD, UM, MORE SECURELY CARE FOR IT, AND IT WOULD HAVE, UH, I THINK A REALLY EXCELLENT CONTEXT. THE SECOND OPTION, UM, WOULD BE ONLY IF WE HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, CITY OF AUSTIN REGULATORY PROBLEMS WITH THE FIRST OPTION. WE WOULD LOOK TO A SECOND OPTION, WHICH IS DOWN AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, SCHOOL ROAD AND PATTON RANCH ROAD. UM, IN, IN ALL OF THESE, IN BOTH OF THESE OPTIONS, UH, ST ANDREW'S WOULD SECURE, MAINTAIN THE STRUCTURES AND ENCLOSED AREA TO PREVENT TRESPASS, VANDALISM, AND DUMPING. WE WOULD, UM, COMMIT TO RESTORE THE LOG STRUCTURES OVER TIME WITH INPUT FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION EXPERTS AND KEEP THE LOG STRUCTURES TOGETHER IN THE SAME SORT OF RELOCATED AREA WE'D MAKE WE CONSULT WITH AND CONSIDER COMMUNITY INPUT ON SIDING AND, UM, PLACEMENT. AND WE WOULD MAKE THE LOG STRUCTURES PART OF OUR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM. AND WE WOULD ALSO ALLOW, UM, LIMITED ACCESS FOR THE COMMUNITY, UM, INCLUDING ACCESS TO SORT OF PRESERVATION GROUPS AND PUBLIC SCHOOL GROUPS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. AND SO WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO DISCUSS THIS WITH STAFF. WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT WITH THE OAK HILL ASSOCIATION NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS REVISED PROPOSAL. AND, UH, WE HOPE FOR YOUR SUPPORT TONIGHT. AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE WHEN THE CASE HAS CALLED FOR DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HOWARD, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? WE HAVE A MR. WEAVER, MR. WEAVER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GIVE YOUR CASE, PRESENT YOUR CASE. OKAY. THIS IS MR. HOWARD. I THINK MR. WEAVER MAY, UM, WITH REFRAIN FROM TESTIFYING FURTHER. OKAY. UM, IN ALL TRANSPARENCY, I MET EARLIER WITH MR. WEAVER AND MR. HOWARD, UM, THEY HAD MET WITH, UM, THE OAK HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GROUP, AND THEY PRESENTED THIS TO ME AND, UM, I WAS VERY PLEASED THAT THEY HAD, UH, ON THEIR OWN COME UP WITH REMOVING THE BUILDINGS, BUT KEEPING THEM ONSITE AND USING THEM AS PART OF THEIR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM. SO WE'LL DISCUSS THAT LATER. UM, WHAT DO WE HAVE? UH, 1601 RIDGE STREET. WAIT, SORRY. I'M SORRY. I JUST, PLEASE GO ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER TO THE END OF THE AGENDA. SORRY. NO WORRIES. WE HAVE A MR. TOM DANIEL ALSO SIGNED UP IN FAVOR. MR. DANIEL, PLEASE STATE [02:25:01] YOUR CASE, MR. DANIEL. YES. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YEAH. SO I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF, UH, THE, UM, APPLICANT. OKAY. UH, IS THERE ANOTHER SPEAKER THEN WE DO HAVE AN MS. CYNTHIA WILCOX NEXT I'M NOT SIGNED UP IN A, IN FAVOR OR I CAN'T MS. WILCOX HAVE CYNTHIA WILCOX AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE OAK HILL ASSOCIATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I WANTED TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR POSTPONING AND ALLOWING TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO MEET WITH, UH, AND, AND SPEAK TO OVER A PERIOD OF, OF TIME, UM, TO TRY TO COME TO SOME KIND OF A PROPOSAL THAT, THAT MET THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE, UM, VERY PLEASED AT, UM, HOW MUCH BETTER THIS PROPOSAL IS THAN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. AND, UH, SOME THINGS IN PARTICULAR THAT, UM, TH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY WAS, WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE IS THAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION EXPERTS WILL BE INVOLVED. AND THAT ALSO THE COMMUNITY WILL BE INVOLVED ON AN ONGOING BASIS AND THAT THEY CHOSE THAT SITE NUMBER ONE, AND THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO MAKE THAT SITE WORK. IT'S, IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE ORIGINAL SITE AND ON THE ORIGINAL, UM, PATENT RANCH PROPERTY. AND, UM, WE, SO WE JUST BASICALLY, UM, JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS SORT OF AN EXAMPLE OF HOW TO CONSTRUCTIVELY WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, THAT, UH, SO MUCH OF A BETTER SOLUTION CAME OUT OF DOING THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. UH, DO WE HAVE MS. JUSTICE ON THE LINE? YES, YOU DO. MY NAME IS CAROL AND I AM SPEAKING NOW HAVING REVIEWED THE LATEST PROPOSALS FROM, UM, JEFF HOWARD AND ST UM, ST. ANDREW'S SCHOOL IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION WITH A CAVEAT. NOW I AM A MEMBER OF THE OAK HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, OR THE OAK HILL ASSOCIATION ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS, FORGIVE ME, AND ALSO A, THE SECRETARY OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS NOW WINDMILL RANCH. WE HAVE RECENTLY HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS, AND WE HAVE RECEIVED SUPPORT FROM A TOTAL SPECIFIC NAMES, 16 NEIGHBORS, WHO WERE EXTREMELY CONCERNED THAT THIS MIGHT DISAPPEAR FROM OUR REGIONAL IN OAKEEL. WHEN I SAY WITHIN OUR REACH, IT MEANS WE WERE VIRTUALLY UNAWARE OF THE PRESENCE OF THESE BUILDINGS, BECAUSE THEY ARE THOROUGHLY SCREENED FROM THE ROAD BY TREES AND OTHER GROWTH, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, I DROVE INTO THE DRIVE THERE AND TOOK A LOOK AND, OH MY GOSH, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, A BEAUTIFUL THING. THE LOG CABIN COMPRISED OF LOTS THAT WERE ACTUALLY HARVESTED ON THE SITE. WE ALREADY TOLD NOW BY THE LOCAL EXPERTS AND THE CHIMNEY THAT IS CONSTRUCTED OF LIMESTONE, ACTUALLY FROM THE NEARBY AREA, YOU KNOW, THAT CONVICT HILL IS VERY CLOSE TO US, AND IT MIGHT HAVE THE LIMESTONE MIGHT'VE BEEN TAKEN FROM THE RANCH ITSELF. SO IT'S ENTIRELY INAPPROPRIATE TO MOVE IT TO ANOTHER PLACE. AND WE'LL DO AN EXTREME LOSS TO OLD HILL. MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOW VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF FORMING A HISTORICAL PRESERVATION SOCIETY OR SOME COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION THAT CAN BE INVOLVED AND TREASURING UNDERSTANDING LOOKING AFTER THESE WONDERFUL PROPERTIES, IT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PRESIDENT OAK HILL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BUT THAT IS ACTUALLY DIRECTLY BEHIND THE ORIGINAL OAK HILL SCHOOL, WHICH WAS BUILT BY JAMES ANDREW PATTON, OR HE WAS DONATED THE LAND AND THE MATERIALS AND WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT BUILDS IT. AND HE IS ALSO THE BUILDER OF THE OLD ROCK STORE [02:30:01] OR THE JAY PATTON BUILDING, OR AUSTIN PIECE OF GARDEN PREVIOUSLY, BUT EVERYONE TO CALL IT. SO IT'S AN EXTREMELY HISTORIC AREA. WE THINK IT NEEDS PRESERVATION AS IT IS. AND I STRONGLY FAVOR HAVING LOOKED AT THE RECENT PLAN THAT THE, IF THESE BUILDINGS MUST BE MOVED, THAT THEY BE PLACED IN THE NORTH ON THE CORNER. I THINK IT IS MUCH MORE CONGENIAL IS IN SOME WAYS MORE ACCESSIBLE, CLOSER TO ST. ANDREW'S SCHOOL. AND THE TERRAIN IS PERHAPS PRACTICALLY CONTIGUOUS WITH WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE STANDING. NOW, NO PROBLEM WITH WHY THE BUILDINGS ARE STANDING OUT WHERE I'M CONCERNED, BUT, UM, THERE ARE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS APPARENTLY. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PUT HARD WORK INTO THIS, INCLUDING THE OAK HILL ASSOCIATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND JEFF HOWARD, WHO HAS BEEN WONDERFUL. AND OF COURSE, I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION, THIS ITEM, UH, MR. BEERS. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE THAT MR. WAS SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION, UH, BUT IF HE'S HERE, UM, HE CAN SPEAK FOR HIMSELF. I THINK, I THINK HE NEVER CONFLICT WITH, UH, WITH ANOTHER ENGAGING TONIGHT. MR. BEERS. OKAY. OKAY. THEN I THINK WE CAN GO ON [3.D.2. PR-2020-183612 – 1601 Brackenridge Street – Discussion Council District 9] TO D TWO 1601 BRECKENRIDGE. IS THERE SOMEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? UH, YES. MADAM CHAIR. WE HAVE, UH, ONE SPEAKER SIGNED UP IN FAVOR, UH, MR. HUTCHINSON. OKAY. MR. HUTCHINSON, PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND PRESENT YOUR CASE. YES. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS, MADAM CHAIR. MY NAME IS MARK HUTCHINSON, UH, SUPPORT THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION AND RESTORATION OF THIS HOME. UM, SO I'M ACTUALLY THE OWNER. I ACQUIRED IT TWO MONTHS AGO AFTER THE INITIAL OWNER SUBMITTED FOR FULL DEMOLITION. UM, I'M NOW PROPOSING, UH, TO RESTORE THE STRUCTURE, NOT SEEKING THAT PHOTO DEMOLITION PERMIT. I LIVE FOUR BLOCKS AWAY. UM, I WALK BY THEM DAILY BASIS. BEAUTIFUL HOME WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO RESTORE IT. UM, I'M A BUILDER AND A DEVELOPER. UM, SO WE'RE SAYING THAT UPFRONT, I AM PLANNING TO BUILD AN ADU AND BACK, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL LIVE IN THE ADU MYSELF. UM, I MET WITH STEVE SEDOWSKY MULTIPLE TIMES, UM, TO COME UP WITH THIS PROPOSAL. UM, AND I KNOW HE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR THE COMMISSION, BUT JUST WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT I DID PUT A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY INTO HEARING HIM AND GENERALLY HEARING WHAT SEEMS TO BE ARE THE PRIORITIES, UM, FOR RESTORATION WHILE ALSO ALLOWING ME TO UNFORTUNATELY, NEEDED SOME EXTRA SQUARE FOOTAGE ESSENTIALLY TO KIND OF AFFORD THE PRICE. BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAME UP TO A PACKAGE THAT'S PALATABLE AND WILL RESTORE THIS BEAUTIFUL HOME. SO WALKING THROUGH THE CHANGES QUICKLY, UM, THERE WAS A REAR ADDITION THAT WAS NOT ORIGINAL. UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO REMOVE THAT MAIN REASON TO REMOVE IT IS, UM, IT'S, IT'S IN WORSE SHAPE THAN THE REST OF THE HOUSE. AND THE REST OF THE HOUSE IS IN QUITE BAD SHAPE. IF YOU SEE THE, UH, ENGINEER'S REPORT THAT'S ATTACHED, UM, BETTER MOVING THAT REAR ADDITION, THAT'LL GIVE US ROOM TO HAVE THE ADU IN BACK AND THEN ALSO TO HAVE A NICE DISTANCE APART FROM THEM. UM, SO IT CAN KIND OF LOOK LIKE DIFFERENT STRUCTURES. SO ABOUT 70 FEET, 17 FEET, UH, BEHIND THIS BUILDING ADU, UH, ANOTHER CHANGE IS TO RESTORE THE FRONT PORCH RIGHT NOW. THE PORCH IS FILLED IN. UM, ORIGINALLY IT WAS AN OPEN PORCH. UM, THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS AND DOOR WERE MOVED TO THE FRONT OF THAT PORCH. WE'LL PUT THEM BACK WHERE THEY ORIGINALLY WERE. AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, THOUGH, UM, WE WILL LOOK AT A SECOND FLOOR. THE ROOF LINE WILL NOT CHANGE. THE HEIGHT WILL NOT CHANGE. I WON'T BE ALLOWED TO, UM, JUST BY ZONING CITY OF AUSTIN. UM, AND ALL WE NEED TO DO IS LOWER THE FLOOR HEIGHT SLIGHTLY. IT WON'T BE NOTICEABLE FROM THE EXTERIOR, UM, THE HEIGHT OF THE FIRST FLOOR. UM, AND THAT'LL GIVE US ENOUGH HEIGHT TO GET KIND OF, UH, IT WON'T BE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE BIG KIND OF A GUEST, A KID BEDROOM SPACE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TILTED CEILINGS. UM, BUT KIDS GENERALLY LIKE THAT. AND I'VE DONE THAT TWICE BEFORE. UM, AND WE IN LINE WITH THAT, WE WOULD LOOK TO ADD A DORMER ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. THAT'S IN LINE WITH THE CURRENT EXISTING ORIGINAL DORMER. THAT'S AT THE FRONT BUILDING. UM, THE GROUND FLOOR WINDOWS STAY THE SAME HEIGHT. WE'RE LOOKING TO RESTORE EVERY, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE GROUND FLOOR WINDOWS. WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THEM, UM, ONE NEEDS TO MAKE SENSE OF RESTORATION, BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF PLAN FOR, UM, OPEN YOUR FEEDBACK. WHAT I WAS HOPING, [02:35:01] YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE EXISTING FOUNDATION IS IN SUCH SEVERE DISREPAIR. MY GOAL WAS TO, UM, BUILD A NEW STRONG PIER AND BEAM FOUNDATION. UM, I WOULD CERTAINLY PLAN, I WAS HOPING TO BE ABLE TO REFRAME MOST OF IT. MY, MY SPECIALTY IS ENERGY EFFICIENCY, REALLY WELL-INSULATED HOMES. UM, IF THE COMMISSION FEELS EXTREMELY STRONGLY THAT THEY NEED THOSE TWO FACADES THAT ARE KIND OF PUBLIC FACING TO THE EXACT SAME OLD WOOD, I I'M OPEN TO THAT. I THINK IT'LL MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT, BUT I'M VERY OPEN TO THAT. UM, AND W WE'LL KIND OF WORK WITH PEOPLE, BUT AGAIN, THE GOAL WOULD BE, UM, BUILD A HOME THAT'S VERY ENERGY EFFICIENT USING A TWO BY SIX STUDS AND WELL INPUT AND STUFF LIKE THAT. UM, THAT'S IT FOR ME, BUT LOOK FORWARD TO ANY DISCUSSIONS OR ADVICE. UM, AND I'LL, I'LL STAY ON THE CALL, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE GET BACK TO THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GLAD THAT YOU'VE TAKEN OVER THIS PROPERTY. UM, DO WE HAVE D THREE? DO WE HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK TO 28 OH THREE BONNIE ROAD? MADAM CHAIR? WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION. UM, SIGNED UP FOR D TWO. OKAY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, FULL NAME AND GIVE YOUR CASE. UM, MY NAME IS NANCY ON THE LINE. I AM. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. UM, MY NAME IS MAC MARTINEZ. I'M AN ATTORNEY REPRESENTING MR. JIM HIGHTOWER, WHO IS A RESIDENT IN THE AREA ACTUALLY LIVING RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM 1601. UH, WE HAD ORIGINALLY TAKEN QUITE AN INTEREST IN THE DEMOLITION OF THIS PROPERTY AND IN OPPOSING THE DEMOLITION OF THIS PROPERTY, HAVING REVIEWED THE PLANS AND WE HAVE A ROTATION PROPOSAL THAT HAD BEEN SUBMITTED. UH, WE CAN NOW SAY THAT WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THOSE PLANS. AND SO THAT IS OUR INPUT AND WE APPRECIATE VERY MUCH, UH, THE NEW OWNERS, UH, WILLINGNESS TO STAY IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE 1904 MOUNTAIN VIEW ROAD D FOR ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THAT APPLICATION. YES, I AM. THIS IS STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND STATE YOUR CASE. OH, I'M SORRY. DID YOU SAY TO THE OPPOSITION OR NO? UM, IS THERE SOMEONE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE MOUNTAIN VIEW ROAD? THEY WOULD GO FIRST IF THAT PERSON IS THERE. OKAY. UM, HI EVERYBODY, ALL COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS NINA FIA AND I'M IN FAVOR, UM, OF, UH, THIS PROPOSAL. UM, WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE FROM MR. FEEDER. UM, MR. REEDER, I BELIEVE IS THE PERSON WHO'S AN OPPOSITION. AND, UH, WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE FROM THEM AND WE, UM, WENT THROUGH THIS EXERCISE, WHICH QUITE FRANKLY, I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE DID. UM, IT'S BEEN SUCH A LEARNING OPPORTUNITY AND, UH, FOR ME, EVERY HOUSE HAS A STORY. UM, SO I THINK IT'S BEEN A GREAT STORY TO LISTEN TO AND SEE. UM, ONE OF THE OPPOSING POINTS I BELIEVE WAS THE, UM, THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT WAS USED IN THIS ARCHITECTURE. I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT. UM, I DON'T KNOW ALL, ALL THE INS AND OUTS. UM, I WILL SAY THAT DOING SOME OF THE DUE DILIGENCE. I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER HOUSES IN THE AREA, UM, THAT HAVE THIS TYPE OF STYLE AND NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN, UH, BROUGHT IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION. ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN EITHER, UM, COMPLETELY REDONE OR RESTRUCTURED OR, UM, COMPLETELY, UM, UM, DEMOLISHED AND REDONE. YOU KNOW, WE WENT AND GOT AN ENGINEERING COMPANY TO COME IN AND REALLY LOOK AT THIS. AND YOU GUYS HAVE THE REPORTS THAT I'LL SAY TO YOU AT THE VERY END. AND IT TALKS ABOUT THAT. THE STRUCTURE IS IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT, IT'S EXPENSIVE AND IT'S DANGEROUS TO REPAIR, UM, BECAUSE OF THE BRUTAL NATURE OF THE MATERIALS UTILIZED AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOUSE. UM, ON TOP OF THAT, THEY ADVISED THAT THE ADDITION OF A SECOND STORY WOULD NOT BE ADVISED UNLESS THE FOUNDATIONS OR NOTES, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKELY AT CAPACITY. THEY'RE VERY UNDERSIZED CURRENTLY. UM, I KNOW THAT THE TYPE OF, OF, UM, HOUSING THAT WAS DONE IN THIS PROJECT WAS NEW AT THE TIME AND WAS REALLY AN EXPERIMENT, UM, AND AMAZING WHAT WE DID BACK THEN, BUT NOW IT'S JUST NOT SAFE. UM, IT'S NOT SAFE. IN FACT, WE HAD A TENANT LIVING THERE, UH, RENTING. AND WHEN WE GOT THIS REPORT, WE ASKED THEM TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE OUT. UM, AND THE REASON TOO IS WHEN WE HAD THIS BIG STORM, WE HAD [02:40:01] BUSTLING OF INSIDE OF THE HOME. UM, AND SO THE SECOND POINT IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT MISHA RATHER, WHO WAS A CENTRAL MANAGER OF THE CO-OP, UM, WHO LIVE THERE. UM, I WENT TO UT, SO UT IN THE CO-OP VERY CLOSE TO MY HEART AND I UNDERSTAND, UM, HOW MUCH HE PROVIDED TO THAT ORGANIZATION AND WHY WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAYBE PUT UP A PLAQUE OR DO SOMETHING IN HIS HONOR. UM, REALLY HE LIVED AT ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT, UM, FOR LONGER, UH, THAN HE EVEN DID IT AT OUR CURRENT LOCATION WHERE I BELIEVE HE DID THE MAJORITY, A LOT OF HIS WORK. UM, AND SO, UM, WELL I THINK THE STORY IS, IS A TRUE AND CARING STORY OF THIS HOUSE. I THINK THE STORY ALSO IS TIME FOR, UM, THE HOUSE TO BE IN A SAFE MANNER. UM, AND AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING MORE THAT THIS CAN BE DONE EXCEPT FOR TRUE DEMOLITION. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WAS THAT THE ONLY SPEAKER ON THIS? WE HAVE MR. ZACH SAVAGE ALSO SPEAKING IN FAVOR. OKAY. MR. SAVAGE, PLEASE, UH, MAKE YOUR CASE. UH, YES, MA'AM THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. I'LL JUST REITERATE WHAT THE DEAN HAD SAID. UH, DEFINITELY IN, UH, UM, FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE, UH, FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT DENISE STATED, UM, IT IS A UNIQUE STRUCTURE. HOWEVER, IT IS, IT IS NOT, UM, UP TO CURRENT CODE. UM, IT WASN'T EXPERIMENT. AND IF, YOU KNOW, THE, DURING THAT STORM I'LL SPEAK TO THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED BEFORE ACTUALLY HE EVEN CRACKED TO THE POINT WHERE PART OF IT COLLAPSED, UM, BECAUSE OF THE ICE AND BECAUSE OF THE WATER THAT HAD COLLECTED UNDERNEATH THE HOME. UM, SO PART OF THE FLOOR AT THE ENTRANCE IS ACTUALLY COLLAPSED. IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S NOT SAFE TO LIVE IN, UH, NOT RIGHT NOW. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE COULD EVER MAKE IT THAT WAY. UM, BUT IF HOMES WERE MEANT TO BE BUILT THAT WAY, WE'D STILL BE BUILDING THAT WAY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT. UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THE HOUSE WHILE IT'S COOL, IT'S UNIQUE, IT'S SEEN ITS LIFECYCLE. YOU KNOW, WE'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO MAYBE, UM, YOU KNOW, DO AN ARCHITECTURAL, UH, DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, UM, AND COMMEMORATE THE PROJECT, UH, AND ITS, UH, ITS TIMELINE AND, AND HOW IT ALL HAPPENED. BUT, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M I'M FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY MORE SPEAKERS ON THIS? WE HAVE A COUPLE, WELL SPEAKERS AND OPPOSITION. FIRST IS MS. MARTIN, MS. MARTIN, PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND GIVE YOUR CASE QUICKLY. IS LORI MARTIN ON THE LINE? ALL RIGHT. UH, OUR OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION IS MR. TOM READER, MR. READER. YES, THIS IS TOM BREEDER, A JUNIOR. I AM THE SON OF TOM AND MARILYN READER. AND I PRESENTED IN JANUARY AS THE APPLICANT HAS MENTIONED. AND, UH, I, I WILL STAY ON THE LINE AS A RESOURCE FOR THE HISTORY OF THE PLACE, BECAUSE I THINK I PRESENTED, UH, EVERYTHING. I PRESENTED SOME MATERIAL LAST TIME. I HOPE THOSE ARE STILL PART OF THE RECORD. UM, IT IS A RICH, UH, PIECE OF, UH, UH, AUSTIN, UH, ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING HISTORY. AND JUST TO BRING SIFT, MEETING TO FULL CIRCLE. LAST MONTH, I SPOKE ABOUT THE, UH, ALL-STAR NATURE OF THE ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN BUILDING THE HOUSE. AND ONE OF THEM WAS HUGO CHUNNI AND YOU HAVE CUNY ALSO DESIGNED THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER, ORIGINALLY THE AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY. AND HE, UH, ALSO DESIGNED, UH, A HOME AND PEMBERTON HEIGHTS, WHICH, UH, WAS THE CHILDHOOD HOME OF MARY IRELAND GRADES DON'T READY FOR HOME. THE DOOR OF THE ARTS CENTER WAS NAMED JUST TO BRING EVERYTHING TOGETHER HERE ON MENTIONED IT. THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. I WILL STAY ON, UH, UNTIL YOU, WHEN YOU'RE DISCUSSING, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HISTORY, I'D BE HAPPY TO TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW. [02:45:02] THANK YOU, MATT. VERY MUCH MR. READER. UM, ANY MORE SPEAKERS ON THIS CASE? UH, NOT ON THIS CASE, JEREMIAH IS THAT WE DO. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ALONG. UH, JEREMIAH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE SKIPPED THREE AND WE DO HAVE SOMEONE SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION. WE DIDN'T SKIP THE THREE. UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE SOMEONE ON THE LINE I THINK FOR BONNIE ROAD. OKAY. UM, IF, IF MR. DVBIC IS ON THE LINE, UM, IT WOULD BE HIS TURN TO SPEAK. I THINK WE HAD SOME SHUFFLING AROUND THEN AND I MAY NOT HAVE GIVEN HIM A CHANCE THIS YEAR. IS THERE A SPEAKER ON THIS CASE? THIS IS 28 OH THREE BONNIE ROAD, D THREE. I'M NOT HEARING ANYONE, I GUESS HE'S NOT HERE, BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE HIM A CHANCE, UH, SO WE CAN MOVE ON NOW TO D FIVE. OKAY. OKAY. DO YOU FIND, UM, A NEIGHBORHOOD ASKED FOR POSTPONEMENT THAT'S THE, UM, THE APPLICANT, THE OWNER WANTED TO GO AHEAD WITH THIS. THIS IS FIVE OH THREE EAST ANNIE STREET, DEMOLISH IN 1931. SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? THIS IS MARK MARTIN IS A SPEAKER ON ITEM. UH, SO IF WE COULD GO BACK TO HER BEFORE WE GO ON TO D FIVE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. MY NAME IS LORI MARTIN, MR. READER, AND I GOT OUR SIGNALS CROSSED, BUT I JUST WANT TO, UM, AGAIN, COMMENT ON 1904 MOUNTAIN VIEWS AS WELL, AND CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THAT MYSELF OR MR READER WOULD NEVER WANT TO PUT ANYONE IN A LOT SAFETY ISSUES THAT, UM, THAT WOULD CAUSE ANYONE HARM, UM, AND RECOGNIZE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME ISSUES WITH THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE HOUSE. BUT, UH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, MR. SAVAGE MENTIONED THAT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO SOME KIND OF DOCUMENT, UH, DOCUMENTATION OF THE PROPERTY. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT THIS IS ONE OF SIX HOUSES, FIVE OF WHICH ARE STILL STANDING IN SOME ITERATION. ONLY ONE AT THE SIX HOUSES HAS BEEN TORN DOWN AND, UM, FOUR OF THE REMAINING SIX ARE BASICALLY IN THEIR ORIGINAL FOOTPRINTS. SO I JUST WANTED TO CORRECT THAT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WAS STILL, UH, AVAILABLE AS PART OF THIS, UH, OF THIS PROJECT THAT WAS REALLY GROUNDBREAKING. AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, MAY, AS WE LOOK BACK ON IT, 70 YEARS HINTS REALIZE THAT THE, IT DIDN'T ALL WORK, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, DOCUMENTATION OF THE OVERALL PACK OF THE OVERALL PROJECT WOULD BE IMPORTANT. AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THOSE COMMENTS TO, TO EVERYONE. ELSE'S. THANK YOU, LAURIE. IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER SPEAKERS ON MOUNTAIN VIEW? IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO SAY SOMETHING JUST REALLY QUICK? THIS IS SORRY, MS. MARTIN. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN PLAYING A LITTLE BIT PHONE TAG. I WILL REACH OUT TO YOU TOMORROW ABOUT, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO WORK TOGETHER ON A DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE WOULD BE MORE THAN WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU INVOLVED IN THAT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE WILLING. OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. DID THE PERSON WHO WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE BONNIE ROAD APPLICATION? COME BACK ONLINE. OKAY. I'M GOING TO THEN GO ONTO [3.D.5. PR-2020-192534 – 503 E. Annie Street – Consent Council District 9] D FIVE AGAIN, FIVE OH THREE EAST ANNIE STREET TO DEMOLISH IN 1931 HOUSE. DO WE HAVE MR. GUPTA ON THE LINE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? YES. PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND PRESENT YOUR CASE. SURE. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS AND MADAM CHAIR. MY NAME IS ASHISH GUPTA, UH, AND I'M JOINED BY MY WIFE, KATHLEEN TUCK NOW, AND WE ARE THE HOMEOWNERS OF FIVE OH THREE EAST ANNIE STREET. UH, WE HAVE LIVED IN THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR AT FIVE OH ONE EAST ANNIE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, AND [02:50:01] COULDN'T BE HAPPIER AND PROUDER TO BE RESIDENTS OF TRAVIS HEIGHTS. PART OF THE REASON WE HAD PURCHASED OUR HOME, UH, AT FIVE OH ONE EAST DANNY IS BECAUSE IT WAS REMODELED AND ADDED ONTO IN A WAY THAT WAS SPECTRAL OF AND CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FABRIC, INCLUDING THE PRESERVATION OF THREE LARGE HERITAGE OAK TREES ON OUR PROPERTY ALONG NEW MEANING. AND IT'S FOR THAT REASON THAT WE PLAN TO USE THE SAME ARCHITECT FOR THE NEW HOME AT FIVE OH THREE EAST ANNIE, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS AGENDA. UH, THE REASON WE ARE SEEKING TO DEMOLISH AND NOT REMODEL FIVE OH THREE EAST DANNY IS TO ALLOW FOR A FULLY ACCESSIBLE STRUCTURE FOR BOTH SETS OF OUR AGING PARENTS THAT WE CARE FOR AND HAVING A HOME THAT IS CONNECTED TO OUR CURRENT HOME WITH NO CHANGE IN FLOOR LEVEL IS CRITICAL TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE ACCESSIBILITY OBJECTIVES. NOT WITHSTANDING THAT CITY STAFF HAS EVALUATED THIS HOUSE FOR DESIGNATION AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK AND IS DETERMINED FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS THAT IT DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION. WE DO WANT TO ASSURE THAT THE MISSION AND ANY FELLOW TRAVIS HEIGHTS RESIDENTS THAT ARE LISTENING IN THAT WE ABSOLUTELY LOVED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND INTEND TO DEVELOP A HOME THAT MAINTAINS THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE ON THE STREET FACADE. AND SOME OF THIS IS QUITE FRANKLY INFORMED BY MY WIFE'S EXPERIENCES GROWING UP IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, AS THE DAUGHTER OF THE CITY PLANNER AND NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATE, AS WELL AS A MOTHER WHO SERVES ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. OKAY. UM, SO YOU LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT YOU WANT TO DEMOLISH THOSE CONTRIBUTING BUILDING. I SEE. ALL RIGHT. UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AN OPPOSITION, MADAM CHAIR, UH, THE FIRST MR. VILLA. HI, UH, MY NAME IS JAMES BILODEAU. I LIVE AT FIVE OH TWO VERY STREET. UH, HELLO. UH, SHE SH UH, I THINK WE'RE NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY, PROBABLY NOT TOO FAR APART RIGHT NOW. UM, SO, UM, UH, NOT NECESSARILY AN OPPOSITION, BUT I AM SIMPLY BECAUSE WE REACHED OUT TO, UH, DAR DEMOLITION, UH, THAT WAS LISTED ON THE APPLICATION AND, UH, JUST NEVER HEARD A RESPONSE. UM, UH, WE ARE NOW IN A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT ON FIVE OH TWO EAST MARY, UH, AND APPENDING NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. UM, WE JUST LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST DISCUSS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY. UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT DISCUSSION HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO TAKE PLACE BECAUSE WE NEVER HEARD BACK. AND SO, UH, WE WOULD ENCOURAGE POSTPONEMENT, UH, JUST TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, UM, AND, UH, JUST LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT'S HAPPENING. UM, UH, JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO JUST TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY AND, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL GIVEN WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK? WELL, WE HAVE A MR. TOM GATE SIGNED UP IN OPPOSITION, PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND PRESENT YOUR CASE. UH, HELLO, THIS IS JOHN GATE, UH, SPEAKING ABOUT FIVE ZERO THREE EAST MARY STREET. UM, STRUCTURE IS A TYPICAL PERIOD BUNGALOW, WHICH IS KIND OF A SIGNATURE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I HAVE NOT INSPECTED THE PROPERTY, BUT WE'D LIKE TO KNOW, UM, FROM THE OWNER, THE MORE OF A JUSTIFICATION FOR THE DEMOLISH DEMOLISHING OF THE PROPERTY, ACTUALLY, I GUESS AM, EVEN THOUGH I HAVEN'T COLLUDED, I'M FEELING ABOUT THE SAME AS JAMES WHO'S MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, UM, ON MY OWN BLOCK, UH, 500 BLOCK OF EAST MARY OF THE DEVELOPER AND THE OWNER OF 580 SMEARY STREET, WHICH WAS ON THE AGENDA EARLIER THIS EVENING, UM, MADE THE EFFORT TO COMMUNICATE WITH NEIGHBORS BY EMAIL LETTER AND ZOOM SESSION, AND THE PROJECT AND ARCHITECTS PLANS WERE SHARED AND EXPLAINED AND COMMENTS AND INVITED. UH, AS YOU HAVE HEARD THE PROPERTY, THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY WILL BE REHABILITATED AND EXPANDED AND NOT DEMOLISHED. UM, ALTHOUGH I OBSERVE AS THERE SOME WORSE CONDITION THAN FIVE ZERO THREE EAST SANTA FE STREET. AND FOR A SECOND EXAMPLE ON MY BLOCK, THE BEFORE NEW STRUCTURE WAS BUILT AT FIVE OH ONE EAST MARY STREET, THE ORIGINAL 1930S STRUCTURE WAS MOVED AND NOT DEMOLISHED. UM, THREE OH FIVE EAST SANTA FE STREET IS NOT AN ISLAND, RATHER PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, RECOMMENDED THAT THERE SHOULD BE COMMUNICATION WITH NEIGHBORS AND AN EXPLANATION AND JUSTIFICATION BEFORE APPROVAL OF DEMOLITION IS CONSIDERED. THANK YOU. [02:55:06] I BELIEVE WE HAVE LOST, UH, OUR, OUR CHAIRPERSON. LET ME STEP IN WHILE MS. MEYERS IS OUT. UH, AND LET'S GO AHEAD. IS THIS POINT BEFORE WE GO ON, UH, COMMISSIONER , WE NEED TO ACTUALLY CIRCLE BACK. THERE WERE SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES FOR ONE OF THE SPEAKERS EARLIER. IF WE COULD GO BACK TO ITEM D THREE AND MS. CAROL WILLIAMS, IF YOU WERE ON THE LINE, IF YOU WOULD SPEAK TO THAT. OKAY. THAT WAS THE BONNIE STREAK AS FOR 2,803 BONNIE STREET, MS. UH, MS. WILLIAMS, NO, IT'S FOUR ONE ZERO ZERO SEVEN MO FRAY STREET. MY APOLOGIES. I WAS LOOKING AT D THREE. UH, YES. SO WE NEED TO MOVE QUITE A WAYS BACK ON THE AGENDA TO ITEM C THREE, WHICH IS 1007. PLEASE PROCEED. THANK YOU. OH MY GOSH. IS THIS THE JOB YOU ALL SIGNED UP FOR? YOU REALLY DO NEED ICE CREAM. UM, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO APPROACH THIS BECAUSE I AM IN FAVOR OF NEW NEIGHBORS. I'M IN FAVOR OF NEW CHILDREN ON THE BLOCK. I'M IN FAVOR OF SOMEBODY LIVING IN THEIR DREAM HOUSE WHEN I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IS A HOUSE THAT IS SAID BY THE ARCHITECT TO BE CULTURALLY SENSITIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS NOT, IS LABELED AS A COTTAGE AND IS NOT AT 3,300 SQUARE FEET, TWO STORY. AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN IS SOME DISCUSSION WITH THE ARCHITECTS, THE OWNERS, TO SEE HOW WE CAN MODIFY AND SOFTEN THE FACADE. I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY SPACE AWAY. I DON'T WANT THEM TO NOT HAVE THIS LOVELY, LUXURIOUS SPACE THAT THEY'VE BEEN DREAMING ABOUT. HOWEVER, THE, THE FRONT OF IT, IT DIMINISHES THE VALUE OF A STREET. THAT'S ONLY A BLOCK LONG. AND SO EVERYTHING'S VISIBLE FROM END TO END FROM 10TH TO 12TH. AND IT WOULD REALLY BE GREAT IF WE COULD JUST SOFTEN HOW SEVERE THE FACADE IS WITHOUT ADJUSTING THE FLOOR PLAN. IF THAT IS A POSSIBLE COMPROMISE, I'D BE WILLING TO DISCUSS THAT OR CONSIDER THAT. UH, AND I WELCOME NEW NEIGHBORS TO OUR STREET. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. THANK YOU. I, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE JUMPING AROUND, UM, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A REBUTTAL, UH, THEY WOULD BE WELCOME TO DO SO. YES. THIS IS ANDREW LOGAN ARCHITECT HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. HI. UM, WE, WE WOULD BE, WE WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON, UM, SOFTENING, WHAT YOU GUYS FEEL IS A SEVERE SUICIDE. UM, THAT THAT WOULD BE A JOY FOR US TO GET TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS AND COLLABORATE ON THAT. I'M SORRY. UM, I WAS OUT, I WAS UNCONNECTED, UM, COMMISSIONER HOLMES. COULD YOU TAKE OVER THIS MEETING AND THEN I TRY TO STAY ON THE LINE, BUT IF YOU COULD TAKE OVER THE MEETING, I'LL HAVE WORDS WITH A SPECTRUM TOMORROW. OKAY. WELL, WE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND, UM, WE ARE NOW GOING TO GOES BACK IN ORDER, UM, STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE LET US KNOW WHICH SPEAKERS ARE COMING UP NEXT? UH, WE'RE AT, UH, D [3.D.9. GF-2021-015104 – 6800 Woodrow Avenue – Consent Council District 7] NINE 6,800 WOODROW AVENUE. UM, AND DO WE HAVE MS. LYNCH, UH, SIGNED UP IN FAVOR? YES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS MICHELLE LYNCH WITH MATT CASLOW STEWART AND WILLIAMS. THE APPLICANT ON BEHALF OF TONIGHT'S, UM, APPLICATION. I REPRESENT A POTENTIAL BUYER FOR THE PROPERTY, WHICH INCLUDES A LOCAL LOCAL BUILDER TEAM FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. UM, IF YOU COULD ADVANCE THE SLIDE TO, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY HERE LOCATED OFF 6,800 WOODROW AVENUE, SLIDE THREE, PLEASE. THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALL SF THREE NP, AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY AT 6,800 WOODROW. WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE ON THIS? UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY CARVED UP INTO EIGHT SPECIFIC RESIDENTIAL LOTS AS WELL. SLIDE FOUR. IT MAKES UP 1.45 ACRES, UM, AND DOES INCLUDE THE CHURCH BUILDINGS. THE FIRST CUMBERLAND PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, NO LONGER WORSHIPS HERE AND HAS NOT FOR SOME TIME AND DOES NOT OWN THE LAND. IT'S ACTUALLY OWNED BY A COMPANY OUT OF CALIFORNIA. THERE IS A SUBJECT MARKER RELATED TO THE HISTORY OF THE ORIGINAL CHURCH LOCATION. UM, THAT WAS HELD 90 YEARS BEFORE THIS LOCATION IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. AND THAT SUBJECT MARKER WILL REMAIN SLIDE FIVE, PLEASE. UM, YOU CAN ADVANCE THROUGH SLIDES SIX, [03:00:01] SEVEN, EIGHT AS THEY SHOW ELEVATIONS, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU ALREADY HAVE IN YOUR BACKUP AND NINE TO SLIDE 10, PLEASE. SO IF A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS FOR PRODUCTS THAT COMPLIMENTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY REASONING, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR VARIANCES TO BE REQUESTED. AND WHEN WE MET WITH THE BRENTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF SINGLE FAMILY. THIS LOCATION. WE'VE ALSO TALKED TO THE ZONING STAFF WHO ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF ANY UPS ZONING OF THE PROPERTY SLIDE, 11 URBANE ROOST, UH, CUSTOM HOMES IS ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. AND IN TALKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS, WE WERE SHOWING THEM A LOT OF THE PRODUCTS THAT HAD BEEN DONE AROUND TOWN LOCALLY. AGAIN, NOT INDICATIVE OF EXACTLY WHAT WOULD BE AT THIS LOCATION, BUT SLIDE 11, 12, AND 13 SHOW YOU THE QUALITY OF THE TYPE OF PRODUCTS AND THE COMPLIMENT TO THOSE VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, SLIDE 14 INDICATES THAT WE MET ON MARCH 3RD TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSAL WITH BRENTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD BRENT WITH NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ON MARCH 5TH, WE WERE ISSUED A LETTER OF NO OPPOSITION. OUR OFFICE ALSO MAILED LETTERS TO OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET. WE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE WHICH WERE SUPPORTED. I DID NOTICE OVER THE WEEKEND THAT THERE WERE SOME OPPOSITION LETTERS THAT CAME IN, BUT I WAS NOT AWARE OF, UM, WE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS. THEY DID NOT CONTACT US, AND I'M NOT SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. SLIDE 15, UH, MIRRORS, THE STAFF SUPPORT MATERIALS WITH REGARD TO THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION CRITERIA. AGAIN, THAT THE STRUCTURE IS MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD. ALTHOUGH NOT THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE, IT DOES RETAIN ITS DEGREE OF INTEGRITY. IT'S NOT DILAPIDATED. UM, AND IT, BUT IT DOES NOT MEET TWO OF THE FOLLOWING FIVE CRITERIA IS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT WHILE THE ARCHITECT DID DESIGN OTHER CHURCHES. THIS CHURCH MOVED HERE AFTER 90 YEARS FROM THEIR ORIGINAL LOCATION. UM, AND SO WE DON'T FEEL THAT AS WELL AS STAFF THAT IT NEEDS, THE HIGH BAR NEEDED FOR INDIVIDUAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION. AND FINALLY, IN SUMMARY IN SLIDE 16, AGAIN, WE ARE PROPOSING A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO COMPLIMENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY CHANGE IN THE ZONING OR ANY VARIANCES TO WHAT IS ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY. TODAY. WE DO HAVE A LETTER OF NO OPPOSITION FROM THE BRENTWOOD NEIGHBOR BUSINESS NATION. WE DO FULLY INTEND AS REQUIRED TO KEEP THE SUBJECT MARKER, IDENTIFYING THE ORIGINAL CHURCHES, ESTABLISHMENT DOWNTOWN, AND TRANSITION TO THIS LOCATION. UM, AND AGAIN, WE STILL DO NOT FEEL THAT THIS RISES TO THE LEVEL OF INDIVIDUAL LANDMARK STATUS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND RECOMMENDATION PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION THIS EVENING. THANK YOU, MR. YOU'RE MUTED. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? NO COMMISSIONER. WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FOR DNI. OKAY. THAT IS A, WE HAVE ONE MORE, UH, ITEM FOR DISCUSSION. WAS ANYBODY [3.D.13. HR-2021-029739 – 1308 Travis Heights – Consent Council District 9] ELSE SIGNED UP AT ? YES, YOUR HUNDRED. WE HAVE A ONE IN FAVOR AND ONE NEUTRAL. UH, DO WE HAVE A MR. TRAVIS YOUNG ON THE LINE? HELLO, MR. YANG, PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND, UH, PLEASE BE BRIEF. I'LL BE VERY BRIEF. MY NAME IS TRAVIS YOUNG ARCHITECT REPRESENTING, UH, THE OWNER OF THE PROJECT THAT 1308, TRAVIS TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD. AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THE DEMOLITION. THAT WAS BRIEF. WE APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW I TOLD YOU I'D BE BRIEF AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE AS WELL. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR. YOUNG, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION? WE DO HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP, UM, AS NEUTRAL AND MR. STEVEN SMITH, MR. SMITH, PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME AND, UH, PROCEED. YES. MR. SMITH. THERE, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. HE DOES NOT. WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE THEM ON THE LINE. NO, NO. OKAY. UM, ARE THOSE ALL THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE ARE WAITING ON? YEAH. IF THAT TAKES US. YES. THAT TAKES US BACK UP TO THE TOP OF THE AGENDA TO GO THROUGH FOR A COMMISSION DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. WELL, UH, THAT WOULD TAKE US BACK TO ITEM [3.B.1. C14H-2009-0021 – 2406 Harris Blvd. – Discussion Jackson-Novy Kelly-Hoey House Council District 9] B ONE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. IS THAT CORRECT STAFF? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. AND, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS ELIZABETH RAMIT WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE STAFF. UM, I DO NEED TO MENTION [03:05:01] THAT, UM, STEVE SEDOWSKY IS NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT. UM, HE OF COURSE, TAKES THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS VERY SERIOUSLY AND, UH, WOULD BE HERE IF HE COULD. SO I WILL BE DOING MORE THAN ONE THING. I WILL BE PULLING UP, UM, THE VISUALS FOR YOU TO SEE AS WELL AS PRESENTING HIS STAFF REPORTS. UH, SO I WILL TRY TO BE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, BUT PLEASE DO BEAR WITH ME. OKAY. AND BE MINDFUL. UM, AS WE ALL ARE AT, WE ARE RIGHT NOW AT NINE OH SIX AND WE ARE HAVING A HARD STOP AT 10 O'CLOCK. UH, DOES, UM, THE CITY HALL AAV NEED TO BE AWARE THAT WE MAY BE RUNNING OVER. I BELIEVE HE'S AWARE. OKAY. WE'LL TRY TO DO OUR BEST. AND, UH, MS. BROWN, WE APPRECIATE YOU, UH, EXPEDITING THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. SO OUR NEXT CASE IS ITEM B ONE THAT IS 24 OH SIX HARRIS BOULEVARD. YES. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS COME BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE A COUPLE OF TIMES. AND, UH, THE ARCHITECT HAS MADE EVERY EFFORT TO COMPLY WITH THE FEEDBACK FROM THAT COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF, UH, MULTIPLE ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT. UH, AT THIS POINT, UH, STAFF IS COMFORTABLE THAT, UM, TWO PIECES OF THE PROJECT AT LEAST HAVE BEEN ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED AND, UH, SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN APPROVE, WHICH IS REMOVAL OF THE 1990S MODIFICATIONS TO THE LANDSCAPE. UH, WE DO HAVE DOCUMENTATION IN THE BACKUP SHOWING THAT THOSE ARE NOT HISTORIC FEATURES AS WELL AS, UM, LET ME SEE IF I'M SCROLLING THE RIGHT WAY. REMOVAL OF THE EVENT IS DOCUMENTED AS BEING A LATER MODIFICATION FOR AN ATTIC FAN. AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT RESTORATION OF THAT FRONT GABLE IS APPROPRIATE, UH, WHERE STAFF IS NOT ENTIRELY COMFORTABLE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION AND BELIEVES IT IS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMISSION TO MAKE THE DECISION IS THERE IS A PROPOSAL FOR A POOL AND THE FRONT YARD OF THIS HOUSE. AND SO, AS YOU SAW FROM THE INITIAL RENDERING, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE HIGHLY VISIBLE FROM THE STREET OTHER THAN THE FENCING SURROUNDING IT, WHICH IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY AT SET WITHIN THE SLOPE OF THE SITE. UH, IT NO LONGER INCLUDES A TERRORIST. SO, UM, PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE WERE TWO STAFF REPORTS ON THIS. UH, THE INITIAL ONE WAS, UM, I APOLOGIZE, MY MISTAKE, UH, IN UNDERSTANDING THE PROJECT, THE BRICK EDGE TERRACE IS REMOVED AND, UH, THE POOL DECK IS FULLY INTEGRATED INTO THE LANDSCAPE. UM, SO, UH, JUST BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS DONE, UM, I THINK EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE DIRECTIVES. AND SO THIS REALLY IS WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE COMMISSION TO DETERMINE WHETHER A POOL IS APPROPRIATE, UH, WHERE THERE WAS NO POOL PRESENT HISTORICALLY IN THE FRONT YARD OF A HISTORICALLY MARCH. UM, APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. WOULD YOU NOTE TO STAFF THAT THEY KEEP NEEDING ME AND I HAVE TO KEEP UNMUTING MYSELF? UM, SO, UH, IF WE CAN FIX THAT, I APPRECIATE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, YOU'VE HEARD THE PRESENTATION. UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, DOES ANYONE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SIDE COMMISSIONERS? THIS IS TERRY MYERS. I KNEW THAT WE APPROVED THE LANDSCAPE. WE GET A VACATION AND THE REMOTE, BUT I, THE APPLICATION FOR THE POOL IN THE FRONT YARD OF THE HISTORY, RIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER MYERS. UH, IS THERE A SECOND COMMISSIONER? I'M I'M SORRY, I CAN'T SEE THE FULL GRID. CAN WE SEE YOUR BALANCE? SUELA COMMISSIONER BALANCE. LAYLA, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? YES. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER MYERS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR MOTION? I THINK THIS IS A BAD PRECEDENT. UM, ONE CASE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TO US IS THE POOL THAT, THAT, UH, IS PROPOSED FOR THE PERIOD STATE. THE PORTION OF THE LAND THAT THE POOL IS GOING TO GO ON IS NOT A LANDMARK. AND WE WANT IT TO DENY THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T PART OF THE LANDMARK, UM, DESIGNATION WE COULD NOT. AND I FEEL THAT THIS IS A BAD PRECEDENT. DOES THIS NOT SOMETHING IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE FRONT YARD, IT SCREAMS NON HISTORIC. AND THIS IS A DESIGNATED HISTORIC LANDMARK INDIVIDUAL [03:10:01] COMMISSIONER. MARILYN'S LAYLA, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR SECOND. I, I AGREE, UM, WITH, WITH EVERYTHING COMMISSIONER MYERS, UM, STATED I DON'T LIKE THE PRECEDENT THAT IT WOULD SET IF WE WERE TO APPROVE IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS SUBTLE. UM, AND, AND THE FENCING MIGHT BLEND IN WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, BUT IT JUST, IT SETS A PRECEDENT FOR, UM, AN INDIVIDUAL LANDMARKS THAT, UM, I JUST AM NOT WANTING TO, TO, UH, SET. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION HEARING? NONE I'LL CALL THE QUESTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL, UH, TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION EXCEPT FOR THE SWIMMING POOL. UM, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. I SEE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN. OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, THAT'S EVERYONE, ANYBODY WHO'S OPPOSED, UM, I'LL VOTE A POST. SO THERE ARE, I THINK WE HAD NINE IN FAVOR AND WE HAD NINE IN FAVOR. SO THAT PASSES, UH, ON A VOTE OF NINE TO ONE AT MOTION. THERE WAS A FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT [3.B.4. GF-2021-021341 – 508 E. Mary Street – Consent Mary Street Historic District Council District 9] ITEM, AS I UNDERSTAND, IS ITEM, WOULD THAT BE BEFORE FIVE EIGHT IS MARY STREET. SO LET'S LOOK INTO THE PRESENTATION ON FIVE OH EIGHT EAST MARY STREET. OKAY. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. UM, ITEM B FOUR IS A PROPOSAL TO REPAIR A CONTRIBUTING HOUSE, REBUILD THE FRONT PORCH, UH, AT A CAR PORT AND A REAR ADDITION AND ADD WINDOWS TO THE SECONDARY FACADE. UM, IT INCLUDES REPLACEMENT AS BEST AS SIDING WITH WHAT TEARDROP SIDING AS WE SAW IN THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, UM, INCLUDES IN-KIND REPLACEMENT OF THE ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF AT THE ORIGINAL PORTION OF THE HOUSE AND INCLUDES RESTORATION OF THE ORIGINAL WOOD WINDOWS. UM, WITH THE ADDITION OF WOOD SCREENS TO THE MAIN FACADE, UM, BUILDING IS ACROSS THE ABLE TO, TO REVIVAL COTTAGE WITH AN ARCHED ENTRYWAY, HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING, UH, ASSESSED THIS REPLACEMENT SIDING ONE OVER ONE SINGLE IMPAIRED WOOD WINDOWS, ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF WOULD EXPOSE RAPTOR TAIL AND A CONCRETE STOOP. UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PROJECT IS TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS A PROPOSED PROJECT, UM, MOST APPLICABLE STANDARDS. UM, AND I WILL NOT, UM, GO INTO THE REST OF IT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, BUT, UH, THE STANDARDS REVIEW, UH, ARE THE BERRY STREET DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, LISTED IN THE STUDY. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, YOU'VE SEEN THIS AND IT'S BEEN, UH, DISCUSSED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL. WHAT, UH, WHAT IS YOUR COMMISSIONER MEYERS? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ALL ASPECTS OF THIS APPLICATION, EXCEPT THE LANDSCAPING. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LANDSCAPE COME BACK MORE IN KEEPING WITH THE HISTORIC STREETSCAPE OF MARY STREET DOES A ONE BLOCK LONG HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND I THINK THIS WE'VE SEEN THIS IN THE SMITH TERRACE, UH, DISTRICT, AND IT REALLY A MODERN LANDSCAPE LIKE THIS RELIGION TRACKS FROM THE HISTORIC CHARACTER. IS THERE A SECOND? UM, OKAY. COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER OF SECONDS. UM, WOULD EITHER OF YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS THE MOTION FURTHER? ALRIGHT, WELL THEN WE'LL CALL THE QUESTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER MYERS, UH, MOTION TO, UH, ALLOW PASSAGE EXCEPT FOR THE LANDSCAPING INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND, LET'S SEE COMMISSIONER MEYERS TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN IN FAVOR. OKAY. THOSE OPPOSED AND FORGET POSE. SO THAT MOTION PASSES ON A VOTE OF SEVEN TO THREE. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM UP IS ITEM B SIX [3.B.6. C14H-1986-0015, C14H-2004-0008 – 907, 909, and 911 Congress Ave. – Discussion Grandberry Building, Mitchell-Robertson Building Congress Avenue Historic District Council District 9] AND THAT ONE IS THE NINE OH SEVEN, NINE OH NINE AND NINE 11 CONGRESS AVENUE STANCE. DO YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION? UH, I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT. UM, I UPLOADED THE MATERIALS AS SOON AS WE RECEIVED THEM. UM, SO WE, WE DID NOT HAVE THE MATERIALS IN HAND AND TIME TO REFLECT THOSE IN THE STAFF REPORT, UH, WHICH WE WERE WORKING ON, ON, ON THURSDAY OF LAST WEEK. SO, UM, I WOULD DIRECT THE COMMISSION TO, UM, ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT IF THEY ARE STILL ON THE LINE, UH, BEFORE WE DO THAT, UH, MS. BRUMMETT, UM, ARE WE, IF YOU JUST HELPED ME, UM, ARE WE IN ANY TIME COMMITMENT HERE IF WE WERE TO, [03:15:01] UH, PUT THIS OFF AND EXPLORE THIS IN MORE DETAIL AT THE NEXT MEETING, I BELIEVE THE TIME CONSTRAINT HAS TO DO NOT SO MUCH WITH OUR INTERNAL CALENDARS, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE TYPICALLY FACING, UH, BUT WITH THE BUILDINGS AND STANDARDS COMMISSION AND TRYING TO HAVE SOME SOLID ANSWERS FROM THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, AT LEAST SOME SOLID SENSE OF DIRECTION OF HOW THE LANDMARK COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS PROJECT PROCEED IN ORDER TO KEEP THINGS MOVING FORWARD, UH, WITH THE BSC AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, COMMISSIONERS, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, UH, CHAIRMAN MEYERS? I, UM, I THINK THE, THE FACT THAT WE INFORMATION SO LATE IN THE GAME TODAY IS DIFFICULT FOR US TO MAKE ANY, UM, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF WE COULD POSTPONE IT. I THINK WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA. I FELT LIKE FROM DONNA CARTER, THAT WE HAD A BETTER IDEA OF HOW WE WOULD PROPOSE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT HAS COME UP TO US THAT, UM, THIS WOULD POSSIBLY BE A RECONSTRUCTION, UH, OR MOST LIKELY BE A RECONSTRUCTION RATHER THAN A RESTORATION. AND I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE GIVEN, UH, TODAY. ACUTE CARE TO MAKE THAT AS A MOTION, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE, UH, MORE THAN 24 HOURS OR EIGHT HOURS OR HOWEVER MANY HOURS. WE'VE HAD TO LOOK AT THIS, UH, THESE NEW, UM, DOCUMENTATION. HOW, HOW ABOUT TO, UH, NEXT MONTH'S MEETING WITH THAT SPECIFIC REQUEST NEXT MONTH'S MEETING. THAT'S THE MOTION. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND COMMISSIONER, MR. COOK. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION MR. COOK, AND LIKE, THERE IS NOTHING REALLY TO MAKE A MOTION ON. THERE WAS A TIMELINE PRESENTED BASICALLY OF A COMPLETE IMPROVED PLAN THAT THEY DIDN'T ACT ON. AND THEN SEVERAL TIMES THEY CAME BACK WITH THE CONCEPT OF TAKING EVERYTHING DOWN AND PUTTING IT IN STORAGE. WE HAD BEEN TOLD MULTIPLE TIMES, WE NEED POINT A TO POINT A TO Z. WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET, WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO END UP. AND IT HAS TO ENGAGE WITH A PERMITTING PROCESS. THERE'S GONNA BE FOLLOWED BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN. THAT'S GOING TO END UP NOT WITH A B CONSTRUCTED, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A DEMOLITION WE NEED TO HAVE. I DON'T DOUBT THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT RECONSTRUCTION INVOLVED BECAUSE AS YOU CAN TELL BY LOOKING THAT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT PORTIONS MISSING, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE ANALYZED. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GET, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE FULL SET OF PLANS. AND I AM NOT GONNA VOTE FOR FULL DEMOLITION WITH A PROMISE OF BUILDING IT BACK LATER, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A FULL PROJECT, A FULL PROJECT WITH A RECONSTRUCTION. UH, AND SO I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE MOTION WOULD BE ON THIS BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN SEE WHAT THERE IS TO CONSIDER, BUT THE INKLING ONCE AGAIN, OF AN APPROACH. SO LOOKING AT WHAT THEY MAY DO. SO, UH, NOTHING ENOUGH ABOUT THAT. SO THIS TIME, THIS EVENING, I FELT LIKE, UM, I FELT THAT DOMINIC CARTER HAD AN IDEA, UH, AND COULD GO FORWARD WITH A STEP-BY-STEP APPROACH. WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN THAT. AND IF THEY'RE HELD, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO DELAYS ON THIS, IT'S NOT, THEN WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD INFORMATION. ALL WE'VE BEEN TOLD IS WE'RE GOING TO SAVE THEM. WE'RE GOING TO STORE THEM SOMEPLACE. IT'LL BE GOOD. THIS IS A MOTION TO POSTPONE. HOWEVER, THAT CERTAINLY THE RECORD, THE, UH, THE, THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE WELL AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE NEXT MEETING. UM, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE? I JUST WANT TO BE SURE IN THE POSTPONEMENT THAT WE'RE NOT INDICATING THAT WE THINK THIS IS ANYTHING THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED, BECAUSE IF THERE IS NO PLAN, THERE IS, THERE IS, THIS IS AN INCOMPLETE APPLICATION, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. OTHERWISE IT'S A, IT'S A REQUEST FOR A FULL DEMOLITION, WHICH, WHICH OF COURSE WE COULD VOTE ON THAT NOW, BUT ANYWAY. GOTCHA. UH, COMMISSIONER VENEZUELA. I WONDER IF, UM, THE PROPOSALS WOULD ENTERTAIN ADDING, UM, THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD GO TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UM, TO REVIEW WHATEVER STAGE THEY'RE IN. UM, JUST TO SEE IF WHAT WE'LL SEE AT THE APRIL MEETING IS, IS WHAT WE REALLY, UM, WILL NEED TO SEE, TO MAKE UP A FULL RECOMMENDATION. I WOULD SUPPORT THAT THE SECONDARY SUPPORT THEN. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO LET'S, LET'S CONSIDER THE MOTION TO POSTPONE WITH THE, UH, REQUEST THAT THE APPLICANT, UH, BRING THIS [03:20:01] FORWARD TO, UH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE IN THE INTERIM WITH ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION OR DISCUSSION, WE'RE READY TO VOTE ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. HEY, AND IT IS UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM. LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. C1, [3.C.1. HR-2020-179883 – Fiesta Gardens, 2101 Jesse E. Segovia Street – Discussion Council District 3] THE FIESTA GARDENS 2,101 50 SEGOVIA STREET. YES. COMMISSIONERS. UM, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS MULTIPLE COMPONENTS TO IT. UH, I BELIEVE THE COMMISSION HEARD A BRIEFING ON THIS. SO I, AT THIS POINT, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS THE FULL COMMISSION OR THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE HEARD THIS PREVIOUSLY. UM, BUT THIS IS A PROJECT TO REHABILITATE THE EXISTING FACILITY AT FIESTA GARDEN, WHICH INCLUDES MULTIPLE PIECES. AND, UM, I DO BELIEVE OUR PRESENTER MAY NOT HAVE HAD TIME TO COVER THE FULL BREADTH AND DEPTH OF THIS PROJECT. SO, UM, I WILL, I WILL TRY TO SUPPLEMENT THAT NOW. UH, ONE PIECE IS IN ADDITION TO THE DINING HALL TO THE EXISTING DINING HALL, AS WELL AS ADDING SOME, UM, ROOFTOP, UH, CLEAR STORY WINDOWS TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL DAYLIGHTING WITHIN THE DINING HALL. UH, THERE IS WORK TO, UM, THE BAND STAND TO IMPROVE THE CIRCULATION AND ACCESSIBILITY AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE A MODESTLY SIZED ADDITION ONTO THE SIDE OF THAT OR MORE USABLE SPACE. UH, THERE IS A, AN INITIAL PHASE FOR THE MERCADO, WHICH WILL, UM, DO CRITICAL EXTERIOR MAINTENANCE, UH, WITH A SECOND PHASE TO REHABILITATE THAT BUILDING PROVIDE MEETING ROOMS. AND, UH, THEN THERE IS A PROJECT TO REHABILITATE AND RESTORE THE GRANDSTAND, IMPROVE ITS ACCESSIBILITY AND CONSTRUCT A ROTTER FRONT RACE STAGE AND BOARDWALK AS PART OF A SECOND PHASE. UM, SO THERE ARE EXTENSIVE SLIDES ON THIS PROJECT THAT WERE PROVIDED IN YOUR BACKUP. I'M HAPPY TO IF THE COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC ASPECTS OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED OR WANTS TO SEE SOME OF THOSE VISUALS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO PUT THOSE UP ON THE SCREEN, BUT, UH, DON'T WANT TO BELABOR IT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. LET ME HAVE A QUICK QUESTION OF YOU. UM, NOW THIS IS A CITY OF AUSTIN THAT IS DOING THIS WORK, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEY ARE COMING TO A SCORE APPROVAL, BUT IS ANY ONE OF THESE READY TO BE THIS CONSTRUCTION? I THINK THEY JUST MIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AN OVERALL DIRECTION. WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO GIVE A POSITIVE RESPONSE, BUT THEN REQUEST THAT THESE SPECIFIC PROJECTS, BECAUSE HOW THEY'RE DETAILED AND HOW THEY'RE EXECUTED WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE, UH, BE REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSION, UH, AS THEY ARE READY AT A MORE DETAILED LEVEL? UH, CERTAINLY I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. UM, WHAT STAFF REVIEWED WAS THE SAME THING THAT THE COMMISSION HAS SEEN, WHICH IS, UH, THIS PRESENTATION SET, UH, WHICH AGAIN IS YOU'RE CORRECT. THAT'S THE OVERALL CONCEPT FOR THE PROJECT. UH, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A COMPLETE SET OF CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS IN HAND. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS WHERE THEY ARE IN THE DESIGN PROCESS, IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND AT THIS JUNCTURE. UM, I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION. WELL, CAN WE CONFIRM WITH THE, UH, WITH, UH, MR. TOPPLE THAT THAT IS THE CASE C ON THE LINE? W WE ARE CHECKING TO SEE IF HE'S ON, ON THE LINE, UM, AND MAKING SURE WE DON'T HAVE A MUTED ON OUR END. WE'LL GIVE IT A SECOND. THERE WE GO. MR. CHAPEL, DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION? YES, I DID. UH, YES, THE PROJECT IS AT THE COMPLETION OF DESIGN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW. UH, WE, WE DID PULL UP SOME DETAILS OF, UH, EACH BUILDING AND, UH, FOR THE END OF THE PRESENTATION AND SUPPORT, UH, THEY INDICATE THE TYPICAL SOLUTIONS WHERE WE ARE RESTORING HISTORIC DETAILS AND RECREATING THEM AND INTERPRETING THEM AS NECESSARY FOR ADDITIONS. RIGHT. WELL, LET ME, LET ME JUMP IN RIGHT HERE IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. UM, IF WE WERE TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL APPROVAL, WOULD YOU BE PREPARED TO MAKE INDIVIDUAL PRESENTATIONS AS THESE SPECIFIC ITEMS ARE COMING UP? ARE THEY ALL PROCEEDING ALL AT THE SAME TIME? UH, EVERYTHING IN PHASE ONE AS DESCRIBED IN THIS SHOWN HERE IS PRECEDING ALL IS ONE, UH, WITH THE INTENT OF, UH, COMPLETING CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, UH, LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER. UH, SO WE DO HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO COME BACK AND HAVE A, SHE TRIES SHEET REVIEW WITH Y'ALL. UH, OKAY. UM, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION COMMISSIONER'S, WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE [03:25:03] COMMISSION? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED, UH, AND GIVEN THE LEVEL OF DETAIL SHOWN FOR THE HISTORIC ASPECTS. UM, I FEEL AS THOUGH THIS IS ENOUGH FOR US TO, TO COMMENT ON, ON THE IMPACT OF CONSTRUCTION IN TERMS OF HISTORIC IMPACT ON HISTORIC FABRIC, IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. I'LL SECOND THAT CHAIRMAN MEYERS SECONDS, UM, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? I AGREE THAT THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME, SOME ISSUES WITH APPROVING AT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I ALSO COMMISERATE WITH THE APPLICANTS WHEN THEY'RE COMING, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS AT THE END OF THE DESIGN PROJECT, RATHER THAN POSSIBLY EARLIER IN THE DESIGN PROJECT, WHERE, WHERE WE CAN GUIDE DIRECTION. AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY THEY'VE APPROACHED THE ASPECTS OF HISTORIC INTEGRITY SUFFICIENTLY WITH THIS PRESENTATION FOR, FOR US TO SAY TO YOU THAT, UH, WITH CONFIDENCE COULD BE DONE PROPERLY. ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, THIS IS COMMISSIONER JACOB. I'M JUST WONDERING, HE HAD MENTIONED, UM, UH, YEAH, THEY'RE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR PHASE ONE PHASE ONE WILL ALL BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME, I GUESS. AND, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, UH, HOW PHASE TWO IS GOING TO BE APPROVED. AND ARE THEY GOING TO COME BACK AGAIN FOR THAT? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? UM, STAFF, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION OR MR. TOPPLE I'LL ANSWER IT, UH, REGARDING PHASING. UH, IT IS DEPENDENT ON PROGRAMMATIC CHANGES FOR PART IN THE FUTURE. AS SOON AS THOSE PHASE TWO MOVES WILL HAPPEN AT APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS, ONCE FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE AND P PARDON, MAINTENANCE STAFF HAS SOME NEW FACILITIES IN WHICH TO RELOCATE AND ALLOW THE MERCADO TO BECOME THAT MEETING SPACE. UM, SIMILARLY THE GRAND STAND THAT'S THE OTHER MAJOR PHASE TWO COMPONENT, UH, THAT STAGE WILL NOT BE NEEDED UNTIL PROGRAMMING IS AVAILABLE FOR IT, AND FUNDING IS FAILED AND THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY ALLOTTED. OKAY, APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? UM, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER COOK. UM, SECOND INVITE CHAIRMAN, UH, MEYERS, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT GETS US TO [3.C.2. GF-2020-171512 – 1517 Murray Lane – Consent Old West Austin Historic District Council District 9] ITEM C TWO 1517 MARIE LANE STAFF. DO YOU HAVE OUR PRESENTATION? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. UM, AND I WILL RUSH THROUGH THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT, UM, BECAUSE IT IS A, UH, AN EXCITING PROJECT. UM, WE'RE BRINGING THIS BACK, NOT AS A DEMOLITION, BUT AS A PARTIAL DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION. UM, SO I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT RATHER THAN ON THE HISTORY, UM, THAT WE HAVE GONE OVER, UH, SEVERAL TIMES WHAT THIS POINTS, UM, OF THIS CONTRIBUTING BUILDING. UM, THIS APPLICATION IS NOW TO REPAIR DAMAGED, STRUCTURAL AND DECORATIVE ELEMENTS, REPLACE WINDOWS, REBUILD THE PORCH AND CONSTRUCT AND CONSTRUCT A SECOND FLOOR ADDITION TO A CIRCA 1927 AND 1929 CONTRIBUTING HOUSE. UM, THE PROJECT SPECIFICATIONS ON THIS NOW INCLUDE, UM, REBUILDING AND REPAIR OF DAMAGED STRUCTURAL AND DECORATIVE ELEMENTS, UH, WINDOW REPLACEMENT, THAT PORCH EXTENSION WE SAW IN THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION OF A SECOND FLOOR ADDITION AT THE REAR. UM, THE, THE EXISTING CONTRIBUTING BUILDING IS ONE STORY IN HEIGHT WITH HORIZONTAL SIDING ASIDE, GABLED, ROOF, RAIN, WOOD WINDOWS, FRONT FACING EYEBROW DORMERS, AND A PARTIAL WIDTH PORCH WITH CURVED PEDIMENTS IN CLASSICAL COLUMNS. AND WITH THIS PARTIAL DEMOLITION AND, UM, ADDITION, UM, THE COMMITTEE GAVE THE FEEDBACK TO RECONSIDER THE PORSCHE EXTENSION AND RETAIN THE EXISTING ROOF HEIGHT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONCUR WITH THE COMMITTEE FEEDBACK, UM, AND ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO COMMENT ON PLANS AND RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. HEY COMMISSIONERS, SAY THOUGHTS ON THIS COMMISSIONER CLUB. I MOVED TO KNOW THE STAFF AND COMMITTEE COMMENTS, BUT APPROVE THE APPLICATION PENDING A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. IS THERE A SECOND, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JACOB? ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER COOK, AND I APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD [03:30:01] HAVE HAD POTENTIAL TO BE A LANDMARK TO, TO SAVE IT TO A GREATER EXTENT, BUT, UH, WE ARE MUCH IN A MUCH BETTER PLACE NOW THAN WE WERE BEFORE. AND WE KNOW THE LIKELIHOOD OF LANDMARKS, UH, GOING DOWN THE ROAD, DOWN THE ROAD, UH, TO THE UPPER LEVELS OF REVIEWS. SO IT'S KIND OF A, THE HAND TWO IN THE BUSH RIGHT NOW. UH, AND I THINK WE'RE BETTER OFF THAN WE WERE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER JACOB? NO, I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER COOK SAID. YEAH, I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT HAS GONE ON, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A COMPROMISE, IT'S NOT IDEAL AND IN ONE SENSE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT, I BELIEVE TO KEEP THE FABRIC AND, UH, KEEP AS MUCH INTACT AS IS, AS WE HAVE IN THIS, UH, JOSHUA WAS SUPPORTING EMOTION AS WELL. UM, WE HAVE A QUESTION, UH, EMOTION, UH, CALL THE QUESTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT. UM, THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM [3.C.3. GF-2021-007465 – 1007 Maufrais Street – Discussion West Line Historic District Council District 9] C3, AND THAT IS THE, UM, ONE ZERO ZERO SEVEN MALAISE STREET. UH, STAFF, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. UM, ADAM C3 IS AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH A 1941 CONTRIBUTING BUILDING AND CONSTRUCT A NEW RESIDENCE. UM, THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDING IS TWO STORIES IN HEIGHT WITH A STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF AND A COMPOUND ROOF LINE. CLOTTING MATERIALS INCLUDES STUCCO HORIZONTAL FIBER CEMENT SIDING, VERTICAL FIBER CEMENT SIDING, VERTICAL CEDAR SCREEN, AND SANDING STANDING SEAM METAL. UM, THE MAIN ELEVATION THAT YOU SEE THERE FEATURES THE PARTIAL WITH PORCH. UM, FENESTRATION INCLUDES FIXED UNDIVIDED WINDOWS OF VARYING SIZES, DIMENSIONS, AND ORIENTATION, UM, ARRANGED IN MOSTLY REGULAR PATTERNS THAT VARY AMONG FLOORS OF BASE. UM, THE EXISTING BUILDING IS A CROSS GABLED SINGLE STORY HOUSE WITH A METAL ROOF OR ZONTA WOOD SIDING, PAIRED FRONT DOORS PARTIAL WITH FRONT PORCH AND ONE OVER ONE SINGLE AND MULTIPLE WINDOWS WITH TWO OVER TWO SCREEN. UM, IT IS A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING TO THE WESTLINE NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THE EXISTING HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1941 BY HOUSTON, C PILOT, AND HIS WIFE NETTIE HIGHLAND WORKED AS A RAILWAY CLERK AND A CLAIMS ADJUSTER ISLANDS LIVED IN THE HOME FOR THE REST OF THE FORTIES AND THEN SOLD IT TO MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR. ERNEST JOURN, AGAIN, ALONG WITH HIS WIFE MILDRED, UH, BY 1955, THE LOSS AND FAMILY WAS RENTING THE HOME OPA LOS AND WORKED FOR THE TRAVIS COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR AND HER HUSBAND, MARVIN WASN'T A CANIK WITH THE CONSTANT SERVICE COMPANY AFTER A BRIEF VACANCY. ROBERT FINLEY PURCHASED THE HOUSE IN 1959 AND THEN CONSTRUCTED IN ADDITION IN 1961. UM, SO IN ADDITION, RATHER THAN NEW CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION WAS EVALUATED BY THE COMMITTEE, UH, BACK IN JANUARY, THE COMMITTEE SUGGESTED CHANGES TO THE PORCH FENESTRATION AND A SECOND FLOOR ADDITION, UM, TO LESSEN THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS ON THE CONTRIBUTING HOUSE. SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR, UM, THE DEMOLITION AND NEW CONSTRUCTION APPLICATION AS TO ENCOURAGE REHAB AND ADAPTIVE REUSE, THEN RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, UH, BUT KINDA ON PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF ASTON DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, UM, ENCOUR WITH THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS ON REDUCING VISUAL IMPACT OF THE SECOND FLOOR DORMER, UM, FOR THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS, UM, THE, UH, THE PARTIAL THAT THE COMMITTEE REVIEWED, UM, AS WELL AS SUGGEST MORE REGULAR CLOTTING TYPES, EVEN IF I HAVE A NEW CONSTRUCTION AND HELP IT BETTER BLEND WITH THE SURROUNDING DISTRICT COMMISSIONERS. WE ALSO HEARD FROM, UH, NEIGHBORS WHO WERE COMPARED SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS AS THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. WE ALSO HEARD FROM THE ARCHITECT INDICATING A WILLINGNESS TO, UM, POSSIBLY WORK ON THAT, UH, ISSUE OF THE DORMER. WHAT, WHAT, HOW WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO PROCEED COMMISSIONER COOK? WE MOVED TO POSTPONE THEM, UH, THE APPLICATION TO OUR APRIL 26TH MEETING. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? I'M SORRY. UM, COMMISSIONER VALENCE, WAYLAND, SECOND, UM, COMMISSIONER COOK. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION FOR, I WAS KIND OF PREPARED TO LET IT GO, BUT THEN I REMEMBERED IT WASN'T A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT AND I WANT TO USE THE TOOLS WE HAVE ON THIS ONE. CAUSE THE, THE COMMENTS ARE SO EXTENSIVE ON THE MASSING, THE FENESTRATION, THE ROOF FORM, THE MATERIALS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS TOTALLY INCOMPATIBLE AND THE ORIGINAL HOME REALLY HAS SO MUCH GOING FOR IT. AND I FEEL LIKE IT COULD BE ADDED ON TO, WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT CHANGE MUCH. I JUST WANT TO GET THIS EVERY POSSIBLE CHANCE TO IMPROVE. AND THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT COMMISSIONER I AGREE COMPLETELY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION [03:35:01] ON THE MOTION TO POSTPONE COMMISSIONER CHAIRMAN MYERS, I CONCUR AS WELL. IT'S IN A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT AND WE CAN POST, OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO POSTPONE. I'LL CALL THE QUESTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. OKAY. AND ALL THOSE OPPOSE EVERYBODY WAS A, THAT WAS NINE WITH A 91 WITH A COMMISSIONER, OTHER STEM OPPOSED. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS. OUR NEXT ITEM [3.C.6. PR-2021-003711 – 1623 Waterston Avenue – Discussion West Line Historic District Council District 9] IS C6 THAT'S 1623 WATERSON AVENUE STAFF. DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? THANK YOU. BYE. KARA I DIDN'T C6 IS AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH A CIRCA 1937 CONTRIBUTING HOUSE AND REPLACE IT WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION. UM, EXISTING BUILDING, UH, CONTRIBUTES TO THE WESTLINE NATIONAL REGISTER, HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UM, AND THE NEW BUILDING, UM, PROPOSED IS TWO STORIES, PLOT AND HORIZONTAL WOOD TEARDROP SIDING WITH THE COMPOUND ROOF LINE. THE ROOF IS CLADDING STANDING SEAM METAL AND FEATURES EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS AT THE NORTH ELEVATION CONTAINED SLIDING GLASS DOORS AND PARTIAL WOODSHED ROOF. FRONT PORCH. FENESTRATION IS A REGULAR THROUGHOUT AND INCLUDES PAIRED AND SINGLE ONE OF HER. ONE WINDOWS FIXED HORIZONTAL AND SQUARE, SINGLE LIGHT WINDOWS AND ONE OVER ONE SLIDERS AND VARIOUS CONFIGURATIONS, A STUCCO FENCE AROUND SOCIETY, REAR YARDS AND THE EASTERN MOST PORTION OF THE FRONT YARD. A GABLE ROOF CARDBOARD EXTENDS TO THE REAR OF A LOT. THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE EXISTING HOUSE, UM, IS A TWO TWO-STORY BUILDING WITH DEEPLY PITCHED GABLED ROOF, UH, COVERED WITH STAMP METAL SHINGLES, DEEP EAVES, AND, UH, SHED ROOF ADDITION AT THE ST. ELEVATION. THIS DARK HOUSE IS CLAD IN HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING WITH WOODEN VINYL, WINDOWS AND FRENCH DOORS. AT THE SECOND STORY LEADING TO A SMALL DECK TOP OF GREENPORT TRADITION, A BRICK CHIMNEY ADORNS THE MAIN GABRIEL. THIS HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1937 FOR MARGARET ROBERTSON'S DAUGHTER OF JUDGE JAMES HARVEY ROBERTSON. IT SERVED AS A RENTAL PROPERTY PRIMARILY UNTIL AT LEAST 1959 IT'S LONGEST TERM RESIDENTS WERE LOUIS AND MILLIE AND MAYFIELD LOUIS MAYFIELD, WHICH WAS A STONE MASON AND WAS KNOWN FOR HIS STEADFAST SUPPORT OF THE AUSTIN PIONEERS BASEBALL TEAM, NEVER MISSING A HOME GAME. WILLIAM MAYFIELD WORKED AS A FITTER IN SCENES. IT SEEMS DRIFT OF JUANITA MORRIS HAT SHOP AND SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF THE SENIOR HOSTESSES OF THE U S THOUGH THROUGHOUT THE 1940S. THE BUILDING CONTRIBUTES TO THE WESTLINE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT AND IS LISTED AS A POTENTIALLY CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE. AND IN 2018 CLARKSVILLE BLACK MARTIN NEIGHBORHOODS SURVEY, A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UH, ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND EXEMPTED ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, THEN RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, BUT RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. I'M AN ON AND RELEASE PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, ENCOURAGING THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER A MORE REGULAR FENESTRATION PATTERN AND TRANSPARENT FENCING AT THE MAIN ELEVATION COMMISSIONERS. WHAT ARE YOUR PREFERENCES ON THIS ONE? COMMISSIONER COOK? UH, I MOVED TO NOTE, UH, STAFF'S COMMENTS ON THE DESIGN, BUT, UH, ALSO TO FOLLOW THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OCCURRED. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON DR. VIEWS AND RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, BUT RELATES TO DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? I SHOULD KNOW THE OTHER STEPS. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER COOK. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? OKAY. YEAH. I ALWAYS HATE TO LOSE A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EXISTING RESOURCE ITSELF AND THE REPLACEMENT. AND I THINK IN THIS CASE WHILE IT'S INTERESTING, UNIQUE AND FUNKY, THE EXISTING HOUSE APPEARS TO HAVE PROBABLY SOME INTEGRITY ISSUES AND, UH, THE REPLACEMENT, UH, WITH THE FEW COMMENTS THAT IT HAS, UH, OVERALL I THINK THE PRESENTATION TO THE STREET FENESTRATION MATERIALS, UH, ARE APPROPRIATE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I WOULD DISCOURAGE THE STUCCO WALL IN THE FRONT YARD, WHICH BREAKS UP THE LINE OF YARDS AND, UH, KIND OF BREAKS UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD A BIT. HEY, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON. I SECOND THAT AS YOU HAVE, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM HEARING? NONE? I'LL THE QUESTION? THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. I'M SORRY. UM, CHAIR MYERS. OH, YOU'RE READY FOR A VOTE. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. UH, THAT PASSES A 10 TO ZERO. OKAY. THE NEXT [3.C.7. HR-2021-026856– 2407 Jarratt Avenue – Discussion Old West Austin Historic District Council District 9] ITEM IS, UM, 24 OH SEVEN JARRETT AVENUE ITEM, C7 STAFF. DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION? THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. UH, [03:40:01] THIS IS OUR LAST ITEM UNDER ITEM UNDER, UH, SECTION C. UH, THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH AN EXISTING CONTRIBUTING HOUSE AND REPLACE IT WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION. UM, THE EXISTING BUILDING, UH, IS A CIRCA 1939 CONTRIBUTING BUILDING TO THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. UM, PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTION. I INCLUDES A NEW RESIDENCE, UH, THAT IS THREE STORIES, ROUGHLY L CLAN AND CLOUD IN BRICK AND FIBER CEMENT SIDING IT'S MAIN FACADE FEATURES GABLED DORMERS OVERARCHED MULTILINE, CASEMENT WINDOWS, AND A CURVED GABLE ABOUT THE ARCHED ENTRYWAY MULTILINE CASEMENT WINDOWS APPEAR AT THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR BESIDE GABLED ROOF IS CLOUDING COMPOSITE SHINGLES AND A SINGLE TRINITY PROJECTS. THE TOP OF THE LEFTMOST DAY EXISTING BUILDING IS A TWO-STORY EL PLAN RESIDENCE, CLOUDED AND HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING. IT FEATURES A COMPOUND ROOF LINE AND PARTIAL WOODSHED SHED ROOF PORCH MINISTRATION INCLUDES SIX OVER SIX, 12 OVER 12 AND SIX FLIGHT WINDOWS, AS WELL AS FRENCH DOORS LEADING TO A SECOND STORY BALCONY AT THE MAIN FACADE, THE HOUSE AT 24 OH SEVEN JARRETT SERVED AS A DUPLEX FROM ITS CONSTRUCTION IN 1939 BY JC AND MILDRED MARSHALL, 1983, WHEN HE WAS CONVERTED TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, MARSHALL MANAGED THE COLEMAN PRODUCTION CREDIT ASSOCIATION ASSOCIATION IN COLEMAN, TEXAS. UH, THE MARSHALS THEMSELVES DO NOT RESIDE IN THE HOME UNTIL 1955 EARLY RENTERS INCLUDED JOSEE CARRIER PRESIDENT OF BILLS, INC, UH, WHO WERE VENETIAN BLINDS MANUFACTURER, UH, AND FAMILY HARRY DAUGHTER, AND SON-IN-LAW ROBERT AND BETTY KENNAN ALSO LIVED IN A HOUSE WHILE KEN WORKED AT JILL'S IN THE LATE 1940S, UM, AND THE CARRIERS AND THE KITTENS RESIDED AT 24 SEVEN, IT UP UNTIL THE 1950S AND SOME SHORTER TERM TENANTS INCLUDED STUDENTS AND PROFESSORS AT THE UNIVERSITY SALESPEOPLE, A SECRETARY AND A CLERK. UM, THE COMMITTEE FEEDBACK WAS SIMPLY THAT THE PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTION DESIGN IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE DISTRICT. UM, AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, COMMENT ON PLANS AND RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF ASPEN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER COOK. UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO FOLLOW THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS JUST STATED, IS THERE A SECOND, UM, COMMISSIONER, RIGHT. UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION MR. COOK? SURE. AND IT'S A SHAME TO LOSE A RESOURCE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF LANDMARK. AGAIN, WE LOOK AT THE EXISTING HOME AND THE REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING, THE CONVERSION FROM DUPLEX TO SINGLE-FAMILY SEEMS TO HAVE IMPACTED US INTEGRITY AND STREET PRESENCE. AND THE REPLACEMENT IS I BELIEVE VERY HIGH QUALITY, VERY MUCH IN KEEPING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ALMOST ALMOST TO A FAULT, BUT THERE ARE ENOUGH MINOR DETAILS TO ALLOW IT TO BE DIFFERENTIATED FROM THE HISTORIC PROPERTY. SO, UM, ALTHOUGH WE HATE TO SEE A LOSS OF CONTRIBUTING RESOURCES, I THINK THIS IS ABOUT AS GOOD AS YOU CAN BE IN TERMS OF REPLACEMENT COMMISSIONER, RIGHT? THE SAME, ESSENTIALLY THE BLOCK ITSELF SEEMS VERY INTACT. SO I HATE TO SAY THAT IT'S OKAY TO LOSE ANY PART OF THAT, BUT I THINK THAT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS, IS VERY APPROPRIATE, FURTHER DISCUSSION HERE. UH, YES, COMMISSIONER FENDERSON RIGHT. AND THEN WE LOST THAT SECOND HOUSING YOU DID A LONG TIME AGO. THAT'S UNFORTUNATE. UM, BUT UH, I DO VERY MUCH AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER COOKS ALMOST TO A FAULT THAT IT'LL BLEND IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DID REALLY APPRECIATE THE HOMEOWNERS DESCRIBING THEIR PROCESS OF GETTING TO WHERE THEY ARE TODAY AND UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT. IT'S GOING TO BE NICE. YEAH. ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION, DISCUSSION HEARING NONE. UM, I'LL CALL THE QUESTION, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ONTO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS, UM, 73 RAINY SNOW. THAT WAS CONSENT. EXCUSE ME. WE'RE INTO ITEM D [3.D.1. HDP-2020-0479 – 5613 Patton Ranch Road – Discussion Council District 8] ONE. THAT'S 56, 13 PATENT RANCH ROAD. YEAH. SO BEFORE I SPEAKING ON THESE ITEMS, I WANT TO GENERALLY STATE THAT FOUR ITEMS. WE ARE AT THE END OF THE CLOCK FOR EACH OF THESE. UM, THE COMMISSION HAS 75 DAYS TO ACT, UH, FROM THE DATE OF THE FIRST MEETING AT WHICH, UH, THESE, UH, APPLICATIONS APPEAR ON THE AGENDA AND DUE TO THE, UH, CANCELED MEETING, FOLLOWING THE WINTER STORMS IN FEBRUARY, UH, WE WILL NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS ON EACH OF THESE CASES TONIGHT AND LESS. UM, THE APPLICANT HAPPENS TO REMAIN ON THE LINE AND WOULD CONSENT TO A POSTPONEMENT OTHERWISE, UM, YOUR DETERMINATION TONIGHT WILL NEED TO BE FINAL. UH, WE DO NOT HAVE LATITUDE TO POSTPONE. UM, SO OUR FIRST ONE, UM, I'M NOT GOING TO PULL UP VISUALS UNLESS YOU ALL FEEL THAT THEY WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. UM, OUR FIRST ONE IS 56 13 [03:45:01] PATENT RANCH ROAD. UH, AS YOU'RE AWARE, THAT WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED TO BE MOVED TO, UH, PIONEER FARM. UH, BUT WITH A FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE, UH, OAK HILL ASSOCIATION OF NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, THERE IS A COMPROMISE SOLUTION THAT HAS BEEN REACHED. UM, WE DID NOT, UM, JUST BASED ON THE TIMING OF, BY WHICH WE RECEIVED, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL MATERIALS AND DETAILS REGARDING THIS PROPOSAL. IT'S NOT REFLECTED IN THE STAFF REPORT. UM, BUT STAFF WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT A RELOCATION OF THIS LOG STRUCTURE AND THE INTEREST OF ITS PRESERVATION. AND, UH, SO WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PRESENTLY PROPOSING, UH, CHAIR MYERS YOU'LL HAVE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF, UH, NEEDED. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE GRANT A PARTIAL DEMOLITION OF THE LOG HOUSE ONLY TO INCLUDE THE ASBESTOS CITED PORTION THAT IS, UH, IN RUINS NOW AND TO, UH, AND TO APPROVE THE DECONSTRUCTION AND MOVE OF THE LOG STRUCTURES AS PROPOSED ELSEWHERE ON THE RANCH SITE, RIFF WITH EXPERT SUPERVISION AND CONTACT WITH THE PRESERVATION STAFF AND THE HLC. DO YOU NEED THAT? BUT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, LIKE AN INVOLVED, BUT, UH, ACCEPTABLE MOTION OF, IS THERE A SECOND OR LET'S MOVE AROUND HERE? UH, COMMISSIONER LITTLE. OKAY. UH, JEREMIAH, WOULD YOU SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING, WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY HAD ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT WAS DECONSTRUCTING THE LOG STRUCTURE AND MOVING IT TO PIONEER FARM. THE, UM, THE REPRESENTATIVES OF ST ANDREW'S SCHOOL. UM, ONCE THEY GOT INTO THE HISTORY OF IT AND, AND MEETING WITH THE OAK HILL, PEOPLE CAME UP WITH THIS, UM, OPTION ON THEIR OWN. UH, THEY HAD THREE DIFFERENT PLACES ON THE RANCH. UM, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY FOR THE ONE WHERE THEY MOVED THE RANCH, UH, BUILDINGS UP TO THE NORTHERN PART OF THE, OF THE TRACK, WHICH IS NEAR UPON A SPRING HOUSE THAT WERE LIKELY ASSOCIATED WITH THE RANCH. AND I THINK THAT THE OAK HILL PEOPLE, MYSELF AND THE, UM, REPRESENTATIVES OF PAT AND RANCH ARE OF THE ST ANDREW'S SCHOOL, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS WAS THE BEST OPTION AND THEY WILL WORK WITH STAFF AND WITH THE HLC AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO THEIR, UH, EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM. THAT COMMISSIONER LITTLE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR SECOND? I WOULD, YEAH. I APPRECIATE EVERY ASPECT OF COMMISSIONER MEYER'S MOTION. I THINK EACH STEP WITHIN THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF THAT. AND I, YOU KNOW, SAVING THIS BUILDING. IT'S SO RARE TO FIND SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THIS IN ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR WILLINGNESS TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY AND FIND A WAY TO MOVE IT WITHIN THE HISTORIC RANCH. YOU KNOW, USUALLY WHEN YOU MOVE A HISTORIC BUILDING, IT LOSES ITS ABILITY TO BE DESIGNATED, BUT I FEEL LIKE KEEPING IT, ITS HISTORIC CONTEXT, THIS BUILDING WAS STILL BE AS ELIGIBLE FOR DESIGNATION IN THE FUTURE. SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT COMPROMISE SOLUTION COMMISSIONER CONFIRMING THE MOTION THAT IT'S ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE RELOCATION OF THE STONE CHIMNEY AND FIREPLACE AND THAT THE NORTH LOCATION, SINCE THERE WERE MULTIPLE OPTIONS, THE NORTH LOCATION WOULD BE USED ONLY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF IT BEING DISALLOWED BY THE CITY AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WHICH I HOPE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE WOULD, UM, WOULD COOPERATE BUT ENCOURAGING ANY COMPROMISE THERE POSSIBLE. YES, MY, MY MOTION WOULD INCLUDE THE, UH, RETENTION OF THE STONE CHIMNEY AND UM, AND ALSO OPTION THAT THE FIRST OPTION IS THE PREPPER PREFERRED OPTION. AND THAT'S WHAT I INTENDED IN MY MOTION. IS THAT CLEAR ALSO FOR THE SECONDARY COMMISSIONER? LITTLE I SEE. YES. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION I HAVE TO COMMIT ST. ANDREW'S CHURCH ST. ANDREW'S SCHOOL. THE CHURCH MAY BE GOOD AT ST. ANDREW'S SCHOOL. THIS AD, THEY CAME TO THIS REALLY NOT KICKING AND SCREAMING. THEY WERE JUST, THEY'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WORKS WITH THEM AS WELL, SO, OKAY, WELL, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CLARIFICATION THAT THE DEMOLITION IS ONLY GRANTED FOR THE NON HISTORIC ITEMS ON THE STRUCTURE THAT THE LOGS AND THE STONES WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE [03:50:01] MOVED ON THE RANCH ITSELF, THE EXACT LOCATION, TO BE DETERMINED WITH A VERY CLOSE CONSULTATION WITH, UH, PRESERVATION STAFF, UH, AND UH, THAT THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE OF COURSE, UH, FOR, UM, SO AS EXPRESSED BY COMMISSIONER COOK, UM, ANY, ANY FURTHER CLARIFICATION I'LL CALL THE CLASS, ONE OF THE ST ANDREW'S REPRESENTATIVE SAID TODAY, THIS IS A WIN-WIN WIN. ABSOLUTELY. NO, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IMPRESSIVE TO SEE WHAT HAS COME ABOUT, UH, WITH, UH, THAT SURPRISE AS IT TURNS OUT, UM, BEING, UH, ACTUALLY TURNED INTO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE ASSET FOR EVERYONE. THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. I SEE THAT THAT IS UNANIMOUS AND IT PASSES, UH, MS. BRUMMETT I BELIEVE WE ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THE WITCHING HOUR. UH, SHOULD WE HAVE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE, UM, THE MEETING BEYOND 10 O'CLOCK? YES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING. UH, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A CERTAIN I'D LIKE TO SHOOT FOR 10 30. UM, SO WE CAN GET OUR AB STAFF HOME AND GET THE REST OF US WRAPPED UP, UM, HOME AS WELL. I THINK WE'RE ON A GOOD PACE TO DO THAT. DO I HEAR A MOTION COMMISSIONER VALANCE, LAYLA. OKAY. A SECOND CHAIR MYERS. ALL RIGHT. THOSE IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING UNTIL 10 30, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND AND THAT IS UNANIMOUS. OKAY. SO DON'T GO AWAY FOLKS. WE'RE ON [3.D.2. PR-2020-183612 – 1601 Brackenridge Street – Discussion Council District 9] D TWO. THAT IS 1601 BRECKINRIDGE STREET. UH, MS. BRUMMETT, UH, YES. THIS IS ANOTHER INSTANCE WHERE THE, UM, UNFORTUNATELY THE STAFF REPORT IS INADEQUATE, BUT, UH, AND, AND A GOOD SENSE. UM, WE RECEIVED SOME LATE INFORMATION ON THIS PROJECT THAT IS MOVING AT AN INCREDIBLY POSITIVE DIRECTION. UH, SO WE HAVE A NEW OWNER FOR THE PROPERTY WHO IS INTERESTED IN PARTIAL DEMOLITION. SO RETAINING THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE HISTORIC FABRIC OF THE HOUSE, RESTORING THE PORCH, ADDING A DORMER TO THE BACK, UM, TO CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL LIVABLE SPACE, UH, WITHIN THE ATTIC OF THE HOUSE AND CONSTRUCTING AN ADU ON THE SITE. UH, SO THE SOUTH RECOMMENDATION WAS TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING, UM, SENIORS, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO INITIATE AT ONE MEETING AND RECOMMEND THAT THE NEXT, UM, HOWEVER, I, I DO THINK IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE. UM, IF THE APPLICANT REMAINS ON THE LINE THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT ASK, UH, IF HE WOULD BE AMENABLE TO, UM, A POSTPONEMENT TO ALLOW FOR SOME ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE DETAILS OF HIS PLAN AND FOR THAT TO COME BACK FORWARD AS A PARTIAL DEMOLITION REQUEST, UH, NEXT MONTH. BUT AGAIN, WE WOULD NEED THE CONSENT OF THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE IN ORDER TO DO THAT, IS THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE WE HAVE, UH, IS IT MR. MR. SHARP ON THE LINE? UH, THE, THE APPLICANT IS NOW MARK HUTCHINSON. MR. HUTCHINSON? YES. OKAY. IS HE, IS HE AVAILABLE? YES, I'M HERE. UM, I WOULD, UM, I HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME INDICATION OF WHAT WOULD BE ENTAILED OR WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED OF ME. UM, MY PREFERENCE WOULD CERTAINLY BE ABLE TO BE MOVED FORWARD AND NOT DELAY IT TOO MUCH MORE. UM, BUT IF THAT WOULD BE, IF SOMEONE COULD JUST INFORM ME WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED OR HOW LONG THAT THE WAY IT WOULD BE. YEAH. LET ME, LET ME, UM, MAYBE MAKE A QUICK COMMENT AND THEN IF THE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO ADD TO THIS, UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD EFFORT MADE, AND I DON'T THINK ANYTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US, AT LEAST IN MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION IS GOING TO BE ANY DIFFICULTY. UH, HOWEVER, THE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS IS TO ALSO WORK WITH HISTORIC ZONING. UH, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT, BUT ALSO, UH, HAVE THE BENEFITS OF A, UH, HISTORIC ZONED PROPERTY AS YOU FINISH YOUR RESTORATION. UH, HOWEVER, IN ORDER TO INITIATE THAT AND MAKE IT ALL FIT TOGETHER, UH, STAFF IS SAYING THAT IF WE HAVE ONE MORE MONTH AND YOU COME TO US ON YOUR APRIL MEETING, THAT WE CAN BASICALLY PUT THIS PACKAGE TOGETHER, UH, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, I WOULD NOT DISCOURAGE YOU FROM CONTINUING TO MAKE PROGRESS. UH, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, WHAT YOU WILL NEED FROM US IS THAT BOTH A PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT, AS WELL AS THE INITIATION OF THE ZONING. AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT ON THE AGENDA NEXT MONTH. AM I CORRECT STAFF? AND AGAIN, THIS IS MARK HUTCHINSON, JUST ONE QUICK THING. I THINK WHEN I, WHEN I SPOKE WITH STEVE, UM, AND HE LAID OUT KIND OF THE TWO OPTIONS, I WAS LEANING TOWARDS THE DIRECTION OF NOT GOING FOR THE ACTUAL PLAQUE, BUT RESTORING THE BUILDING. UM, YOU KNOW, [03:55:01] AND IT'S, IT'S KIND OF, LET'S CALL IT PERFECT SHAPE OR ORIGINAL SHAPE. SO JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN WITH THAT GOAL, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD STILL REQUIRE THAT PROCESS OR WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT CHANGE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU JUST RECOMMENDED? I THINK THAT, UM, WHEN TALKING WITH STAFF EARLIER TODAY, WE WERE NOT RECOMMENDING HISTORIC ZONING AT THIS TIME WE WERE GOING TO GO, UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT SOMETHING MORE LIKE, UM, APPROVAL IN CONCEPT WITH THE DETAILS OF THE RECONSTRUCTION TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE OF SITING AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WINDOWS ARE GOING TO BE RETAINED AND HOW THE PORCH IS GOING TO LOOK AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT WE, UM, WE NEEDED TO RECOMMEND THAT HISTORIC ZONING NOW, AS OPPOSED TO THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING. NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT SOMETHING LIKE APPROVAL IN CONCEPT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE RENOVATION AND RESTORATION PLANS. YEAH. OKAY. AND, AND, UH, MR. HUTCHINSON, WHATEVER, WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH, IT WILL ALSO REQUIRE YOUR APPROVAL. SO WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER ON THAT, AS FAR AS THAT GOES. OKAY. UM, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. THEN I APPROVE, UM, I CONSENT TO THAT. UM, AND THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP. STEVE HAS BEEN AMAZING. SO YEAH, JUST TRUST THAT YOU GUYS WILL HAVE THE SAME SPIRIT AND HE'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO KIND OF BE CONSCIENCE OF MY RESTRICTIONS. LET'S JUST SAY. UM, BUT, BUT YEAH. OKAY. SORRY. I CONSENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, UH, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, WE COULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO BRING THIS UP AGAIN AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND THAT, UH, WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE OWNER, THAT WE WILL BE CONSIDERING, UM, THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT AT THAT TIME. AND THEN THERE CAN BE CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, OTHER ISSUES OF PRESERVATION. IS THAT CORRECT? UH, UH, CHAIR MYERS, THEY, HE COULD BRING BACK THE, HE COULD BRING BACK TO THE, UM, DETAILS ON, ON HIS RESTORATION PLANS AT THAT TIME, BUT, UM, WE'D BEEN NEED TO HAVE THOSE DETAILS IN ANY EVENT ULTIMATELY, SO. OKAY. AND IS THAT CLEAR TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS? UH, COULD WE WANT TO HAVE A MOTION? I THINK COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER MULLEN SUELA I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD JUST THE RECOMMENDATION OF, UH, UM, ATTENDING THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING AND AHEAD OF THE APRIL MEETING AS WELL. JUST, JUST TO HELP THAT PROCESS ALONG. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A MOTION COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA? I COULD MOVE THAT. WE POSTPONE THIS CASE UNTIL THE APRIL MEETING WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE APPLICANT ATTENDS THE APRIL, UM, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING AND WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE APPLICANT AS THE APPLICANT AGREE. YES, I AGREE. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION HERE? MYERS. ALL RIGHT. UM, WE'VE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. ALL RIGHT. THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND AGAIN, I'M JUST THRILLED WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK, UH, THAT THE, UH, OWNER HAS PUT IN. UH, CERTAINLY WANT TO COMPLIMENT MR. SEDOWSKY AS WELL AS OTHER STAFF. AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO A VERY GOOD PROJECT AS THIS, AS IT COMES TO, UH, COMES TO FRUITION. [3.D.3. PR-2020-174961 – 2803 Bonnie Road – Discussion Council District 10] THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM D THREE 28 OH THREE BONNIE ROAD, MS. BRUMMETT. UH, YES. AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED ON THIS CASE SINCE IT APPEARED BEFORE YOU AND JANUARY. UH, SO THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT STAFF FEELS WOULD MEET THE ARCHITECTURAL CRITERION FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK, UH, BUT DOES NOT MEET ANY OF THE OTHER CRITERIA. UM, IT HAD, UH, I BELIEVE MULTIPLE OWNERS OVER A SERIES OF YEARS. THERE'S NOT A LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEONE OF SIGNIFICANCE TO THE CITY'S HISTORY. SO UNFORTUNATELY THE, UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION REMAINS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE, THEN RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, THE ULTIMATELY TO RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE COMMISSIONERS, MR. COOK, MOVED TO FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION. IS THERE A SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER MICK WE'RE GOOD COMMISSIONER COOK. WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR MOTION IF THIS WERE A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT? I'D MOST CERTAINLY MOVE TO BEGIN THE SIX MONTH DEMOLITION DELAY, CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A GREAT HOUSE AND, UH, APPRECIATED THE ADVOCACY OF THE NEIGHBORS. UH, BUT JUST ONE OF THE PITCH FOR NEIGHBORS WHO LOVE THEIR HOUSES, LOOK AT LOCAL LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS ARE THE WAY TO SAY THEM. AND, UH, WE HAD MORE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO MAKE THAT EASIER TO HAPPEN. NO, NO. UM, COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER, NOTHING FURTHER, YOU KNOW, AND I I'LL [04:00:01] JUST TO REITERATE, UM, IT JUST, OUR STATE LEGISLATURE IS CONSIDERING A BILL RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD MAKE IT HARDER TO, UH, IMPLEMENT HISTORIC DISTRICTS. UM, AND I, THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO BE AWARE OF AND BE VERY VIGILANT ABOUT, UH, IF WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, UM, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A, VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. OKAY. THAT'S ONE. HOW MANY IS THAT NOW? ON TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT. OKAY. THOSE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. OPPOSE OUR CHAIR MEYER AND COMMISSIONER JACOB. AND SO THAT IS PASSING EIGHT TO, TO THE NEXT ITEM. [3.D.4. PR-2020-186435 – 1904 Mountain View Road – Discussion Council District 10] UH, MOUNTAIN VIEW ROAD, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THAT CLARIFY, WHO MADE THE SECOND TO THAT MOTION? THE SECOND? WASN'T IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, SO 1904 MOUNTAIN VIEW ROAD, UH, AGAIN, THIS ONE IS COMING BACK. UM, WE'VE UPDATED THE STAFF REPORT TO BETTER REFLECT, UH, THE ACME CERAMIC HOUSING PROJECT THAT THIS WAS ONE OF SIX HOUSES CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF AND TO, UM, RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING, BOTH ON THE BASIS OF THE ASSOCIATION WITH THAT EXPERIMENTAL, UM, UH, ENDEAVOR OF THE, UH, ACME BRICK COMPANY AND THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS BUREAU OF ENGINEERING RESEARCH, AS WELL AS TO ACKNOWLEDGE ITS ASSOCIATION, UH, WITH THE RATHER FAMILY. UM, HOWEVER WE HAVE RECEIVED DID THE, UM, THE INSPECTION REPORT AND THE STRUCTURAL REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU AND YOUR BACKUP FOR TONIGHT. AND, UM, UNFORTUNATELY THE, UM, THE STRUCTURE THAT HAS BEEN COMPROMISED THROUGH SOME MODIFICATIONS, UH, WITHIN THE CRAWLSPACE, INCLUDING CUTTING, UM, PUTTING THROUGH THAT HOLLOW CLAY TILE FOR HPAC DUCTWORK, AND OTHER CHANGES, UM, THAT IS PART OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS PROPERTY. UH, THEY WERE EXPERIMENTING WITH, UM, STRUCTURAL CLAY TILE AS A FOUNDATION MATERIAL TO SEE HOW IT WOULD PERFORM, UH, WITHIN THE EXPENSIVE CLAY SOILS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS PART OF THE STATE. UM, SO I, I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR STAFF RECOMMENDATION AT THIS JUNCTURE. THIS IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT RESOURCE, UM, BUT IT DOES CERTAINLY HAVE SOME CONCERNING CONDITION ISSUES AS WELL. THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE, UM, HEARD OF THE CASE AND I THINK ARE VERY FAMILIAR NOW WITH THE ISSUES WE CAN CONSIDER INITIATING HISTORIC ZONING, OR WE CAN, UH, FOLLOW THE REQUEST TO BE APPLICANT AND ISSUE A DEMOLITION PERMIT. AND WE'RE NOT HAVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF WELLNESS COMMISSIONERS. WHAT ARE YOUR PREFERENCES CHAIR MYERS? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT INITIATING A STRICT ZONING AT THIS JUNCTURE. IT WOULD BE RECOMMENDING HISTORY ZONING BECAUSE OUR TIME TODAY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. REFERENCES ANYONE, MR. SORRY, I'LL TAKE THE HIT FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION. I'M MOVED TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT PENDING A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCK DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE IS THE AIR. SECOND TO THE MOTION COMMISSIONER, FEATHERSTON SECONDS, THE MOTION COMMISSIONER COOKS. DO YOU WISH TO ELABORATE? I'M NOT USUALLY SWAYED BY STRUCTURAL CONDITION REPORTS, BUT THIS WAS AN EXPERIMENTAL HOME AND IT WAS A CLAY TILE WITH GALVANIZED. I HOPE METAL REINFORCING IN A HUMID CLIMATE. AND, UH, OBVIOUSLY THEY NEEDED TO ADD AIR CONDITIONING TO ACTUALLY COOL. IT, IT'S VERY, VERY INTERESTING, BUT AS A FUNCTIONAL HOME WITH THAT, THAT CLAY TILE FLOOR AND THAT RUSTING REINFORCING OVER, UH, YOU KNOW, OPEN CLAY TILE PEERS, UH, IT'S KIND OF ON THE FENCE ABOUT IT, BUT THAT FOUNDATION WOULDN'T BE A REAL CHALLENGE, STRUCTURAL CHALLENGE, AND THE FLOORING AND THE CEILING WOULD BE A STRUCTURAL CHALLENGE TO MAINTAIN. I DO SEE THE NEIGHBORING HOUSE SEEMS TO BE ANOTHER OF THE CASE HOMES AND HOPEFULLY THE WORD GETS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THERE IS AN APPETITE FOR, FOR LISTING, UH, ONE OF THESE, UM, THERE'S ONLY ONE OF THESE HISTORIC, SO MAYBE SOMEONE WILL COME FORWARD WITH THEIR HOME WITH A LITTLE MORE OF A APPETITE FOR A CHALLENGING TECHNICAL RESTORATION. BUT, UH, I WAS, I WAS SWAYED BY THE REPORT ON THIS ONE, MR. FEATHERSTON. YEAH, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER COOK. I WAS ALSO, UM, WEIGHED BY THE ARGUMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS EXPERIMENTAL CONSTRUCTION TYPES, UM, THERE ARE STILL A NUMBER OF THEM STANDING AND THIS ONE, UH, LOOKS LIKE THE EXPERIMENT [04:05:01] DIDN'T WORK OUT COMPLETELY. UH, I WAS ALSO COMPELLED BY THEIR WILLINGNESS TO PUT TOGETHER. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS LIKE MORE THAN A STANDARD CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE TO TELL THIS STRUCTURE STORY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN REQUIRE THAT, BUT, UH, BUT THAT SOUNDED NICE AS WELL. COMMISSIONERS, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION MR. VALENS WAIT LONG. THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST GOING TO CONFIRM THAT THE MOTION DID INCLUDE THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD EXTEND THAT TO INCLUDE THE FIVE OTHER HOMES, BUT, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WAS A WILLINGNESS TO, UM, TO ADD THAT TO THE DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE BY, UM, BY THE OWNER OR THE BUILDER. OKAY. ANY OTHER CONVERSATION, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION HEARING? NONE. I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION. THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. AND WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10 UNANIMOUS. OKAY. 10. AND THE MOTION TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT HAS BEEN GRANTED WITH THE DOCUMENTATION PROVISIONS NOTED. THE NEXT ITEM [3.D.5. PR-2020-192534 – 503 E. Annie Street – Consent Council District 9] IS ITEM D FIVE AND THAT'S FIVE OR THREE ANY STREET. UH, YES, COMMISSIONER IS. I WENT AHEAD AND BROUGHT THE PHOTO UP SINCE I BELIEVE THAT'S OUR FIRST TIME SEEING THIS PROPERTY. UH, THIS IS ONE WHERE, UM, STAFF RESEARCH DID NOT FIND A CAUSE TO RECOMMEND THIS FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION. UM, UH, UH, STEVE RECOMMENDED THAT THIS IS ATYPICAL CRAFTSMAN COTTAGE AND DOES NOT REFLECT ARCHITECTURAL DISTINCTION TO MEET THE ARCHITECTURAL CRITERION. UM, AT THAT THERE ARE, DO NOT APPEAR TO BE SIGNIFICANT HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS BASED ON THE BACKGROUND RESEARCH AND HOMES RARELY MEETS THE OTHER THREE CRITERIA. SO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY DESPITE THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRUST, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE, THEN RELOCATION NEVER DEMOLITION, BUT REALLY SUPERMEN UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. UM, I WILL NOTE THAT AGAIN, THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME HEARING THIS. I DO BELIEVE IT WAS ON THE FEBRUARY AGENDA FOR THAT CANCELED MEETING. UH, BUT WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO POSTPONE AT THAT HOUR, THE COMMISSION'S, UM, INTEREST TO ALLOW SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, DISCUSSION WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMISSIONERS. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO THE OWNERS FOR MY SOMEWHAT SNARKY REMARK ABOUT PEOPLE LOVING A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY NEED TO DEMOLISH THAT PARTICULAR HOUSE. IT'S JUST THAT WE HEAR IT SO OFTEN AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY SAD, BUT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS TO OUR APRIL MEETING TO SEE IF, UH, IF THE NEIGHBORS AND THE OWNER CAN MAYBE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE HOUSE OR ABOUT ITS REPLACEMENT. SO THAT'S MY, MY MOTION IS TO POSTPONE. IS THAT A SECOND COMMISSIONER COOK? OKAY. UM, ANY MORE DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER MYERS? NO, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S STAFF. WELL, YES, I GUESS THERE IS STAFF SAYS THIS ISN'T ARCHITECTURALLY DISTINCTIVE, BUT HONESTLY THIS IS A VERY INTACT EXAMPLE. UH, AND IT HAS EVERYTHING. IT HAS, ITS IT HAS ITS EXPOSED RAFTER ENDS. IT HAS ITS WINDOWS. IT, IT HAS ALL OF THE FEATURES THAT WE OFTEN SEE GET LOST ALONG THE WAY. AND IT'S JUST A VERY INTACT EXAMPLE AND I THINK THAT DOES DISTINGUISH IT. UM, BUT THAT'S IT. SO MY MOTION IS TO POSTPONE TO EIGHT, MR. COOK, I AGREE IT'S INTACT AND IT'S INDICATIVE OF STYLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE FABRIC AND THE STYLE OF IT WOULD BE PARTICULARLY EASY TO ADD ONTO AT THE REAR. UH, SO THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE A PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD ADDITION TO SUPPLYING. SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE REASONS THAT MY SUPPORTIVE AND I'VE KNOWN AGAIN, SINCE YOU DID THAT WERE THERE TO BE A HISTORIC DISTRICT. THIS WOULD ALSO BE A CHANCE TO HAVE MORE OVERSIGHT ON WHAT'S COMING. IF, IF IN FACT THEY CAN'T RE KEEP THE BUILDING. AND, UM, IN THIS CASE WE HOPE THAT THE OWNERS, IF THEY DO HAVE ALTERNATIVE PLANS WOULD BE WILLING TO SHARE THAT WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THEN COMPARE THE OPTIONS SO THAT THE BEST, UM, FOR EVERYBODY CAN BE, UH, CAN BE HAD. SO THE MOTION IS FOR POSTPONEMENT UNTIL OUR APRIL MEETING. UH, THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND, [04:10:03] PERHAPS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, UH, COMMISSIONER LITTLE YES, EIGHT, NINE, 10. OKAY. THAT IS UNANIMOUS. OKAY. POSTPONE UNTIL THE APRIL MEETING, THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER D NINE AND THAT IS 6,800 WOODROW AVENUE. I PULLED OUT AND I AM VERY CONCERNED WHEN WE LOSE CHURCHES. UM, WE HAVE VERY FEW, UM, WAYS OF CONTINUING SOME OF THE IMPORTANCE THAT THEY REPRESENT IN COMMUNITIES. UH, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT OWNED BY A CHURCH, BUT, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THE OWNER IS ALSO INDICATING SINGLE FAMILY IS THE ONLY, UH, OPTION HERE. UM, BUT THE CORE ORIGINAL BUILDING COULD BE AN ADAPTED. AND I JUST, I FELT LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE SOME WAY OF, OF MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S AIRED IN THE RECORD STAFF. YOU'RE WELCOME TO MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION. UH, YES, THIS IS THE FORMER HOME OF THE FIRST CUMBERLAND PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS NO LONGER AN ACTIVE CONGREGATION. IT WAS ONE OF AUSTIN'S OLDEST CONGREGATIONS. UM, I SAW VARIOUS DATES FOR ITS FOUNDING, UM, BUT IN THE 18 LATE 1840S, EARLY 1850S, THIS CHURCH CAME INTO EXISTENCE. UH, THE PRIOR CHURCH BUILDING, UM, WAS LOCATED AT SEVENTH AND LAVACA FROM 1892 TO 1955. AND THAT BUILDING WAS DEMOLISHED WHEN THIS CHURCH WAS CONSTRUCTED AT 6,800 WOODROW AVENUE, UM, IT WAS DESIGNED BY ARCHITECT, DOYLE BALDRIGE. WHO'S NOT SOMETHING I WAS FAMILIAR, SOMEONE I WAS FAMILIAR WITH, BUT I DID FIND, UM, SOME INFORMATION IN THE AIA, UH, ARCHIVES OF ITS ITS MEMBERS, UH, THAT HIS WIDOW PUT TOGETHER. UM, AT THE TIME OF HIS DEATH IN THE EARLY 1960S, HE DESIGNED THIS BUILDING, THE MAIN BUILDING OF THIS, UH, CHURCH COMPLEX AND SIX OTHER AUSTIN AREA CHURCHES. UM, THE TWO THAT I WAS ABLE TO FIND ADDRESSES FOR ARE VERY DISTINCT FROM THE ARCHITECTURE OF THIS BUILDING. UM, BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE REMAINING, UM, FOUR CHURCHES LOOKED LIKE. SO AGAIN, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THIS IS NOT QUITE AS ARCHITECTURALLY DISTINCTIVE. UM, BUT I, AT THIS JUNCTURE BASED ON THE INFORMATION I HAD IN HAND DID NOT KNOW THE FULL RANGE OF HIS, HIS WORK. UM, SO, UH, DESPITE THAT, DESPITE HAVING SOME ARCHITECTURAL INTERESTS, WHICH I'LL, I'LL SHOW THE IMAGE IN A MOMENT, UM, I DID NOT FEEL THAT THIS NECESSARILY RISES TO THE OCCASION OF A HISTORIC LANDMARK. UM, IT, IT CERTAINLY HAS A DISTINCTIVE ARCHITECTURE THAT POTENTIALLY COULD MEET THAT ARCHITECTURAL CRITERION, UM, THE HISTORIC ASSOCIATION. SO I FEEL ARE SOMEWHAT TENUOUS. UM, IT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH ONE OF THE OLDEST CONGREGATIONS IN AUSTIN, BUT THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED NEARLY 90 YEARS AFTER THE CHURCH'S FOUNDING AND, UH, LOOKING A NEWSPAPER, UM, UH, ARCHIVES FOR THE RANGE OF DATES IN WHICH THE CHURCH OCCUPIED THIS BUILDING. I DID NOT SEE, UM, ANY SIGNIFICANT EVENTS THAT OCCURRED OR SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY BEYOND THE TYPICAL, UM, BIRTH MARRIAGE AND OBITUARY ANNOUNCEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, UM, UH, CEREMONIES WERE HELD AT THE CHURCH. UM, CERTAINLY ANY CHURCH WOULD HOLD, UH, SOME AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY VALUE. I FEEL THAT THAT'S DIFFICULT TO QUANTIFY IN AN OBJECTIVE WAY. UM, AND SO, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO, UM, ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AT ADAPTIVE USE. SHOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE? IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS NOT FITTING WITH THE PROPOSAL FOR THE SITE. UM, SO THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD ULTIMATELY BE TO RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER BELEN. SUELO. CAN I ASK WHEN THE CHURCH STOPPED USING THIS FACILITY? I KNOW THE MARKER SAYS THAT IT CELEBRATED ITS 150TH YEAR IN 2003 AND THE MARKER IS DATED 2005. SO DO YOU HAVE A DATE OF WHEN THE CHURCH, UH, STOPPED OCCUPYING THIS FACILITY? I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND THAT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF MICHELLE ROGERS SON LYNCH'S ON THE LINE AND COULD ADDRESS THAT QUESTION. THIS IS MICHELLE LYNCH. UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS WITHIN THE LAST FIVE TO SIX. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY, COMMISSIONERS. UH, BUT IF I COULD MAKE ONE ADDITIONAL NOTE THAT I MEANT TO BRING UP EARLIER IS THE MARKER ON THE SITE IS AN OFFICIAL TEXAS HISTORICAL COMAR MARKER FROM THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, BUT IT'S THE TYPE OF MARKER THAT'S INFORMATIONAL IN NATURE. ONLY THIS BUILDING IS NOT A RECORDED TEXAS HISTORIC LANDMARK. SO THE ONLY COORDINATION THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED WITH THE THC, UH, WOULD BE IF THE MARKER NEEDS TO BE MOVED ON THE SITE. UM, THAT'S A FAIRLY SIMPLE PROCESS TO FOLLOW. UH, THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR A STATE LEVEL REVIEW OF THIS DEMOLITION. [04:15:06] THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, COMMISSIONERS, WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE COMMISSIONED BALANCE ISLAND? I WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS ONE. UM, I DO RECOGNIZE THE ARCHITECTURE, UM, AS, AS DEFINITELY BEING INDICATIVE OF THAT MID CENTURY, UM, VERY MINIMAL STYLE. UM, BUT WITHOUT THE CHURCH CURRENTLY OCCUPYING THE PREMISES, I THINK THE ASSOCIATIONS ARE JUST NOT THERE. IT DOES NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF, UM, OUR CRITERIA. AND SO I MOVED THAT WE FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND, UH, REQUEST A DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. UM, ACCORDING TO OUR GUIDELINES, IS THERE A SECOND TO THE MOTION COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON COMMISSIONED BALANCE ITEM? WOULD YOU LIKE TO ELABORATE ON YOUR MOTION? NO, I THINK I ADDED EVERYTHING IN THERE. MR. FEATHERSTON. I WISH WE COULD GET, UH, MORE THAN JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OUT OF THIS. UM, BUT WE ARE NET POSITIVE ON HOUSING UNITS, UM, ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AND PROBABLY NET NEGATIVE ON PARKING. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE. IT'S NOT MORE, IT'S UNFORTUNATE. WE'RE GONNA LOSE THIS OLD BUILDING, BUT, UH, I THINK, UH, YEAH, THAT'S IT, WELL, LET ME JUST SOME VERY BRIEF COMMENTS SINCE I WAS THE ONE WHO PULLED THIS, BUT I, I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY WASTED. UH, I THINK CREATIVE VIEW OF AT LEAST THE CORE HISTORIC BUILDING COULD BE TURNED INTO SOMETHING QUITE STUNNING AND WHERE IT PRESENTED TO US, UH, I THINK WOULD BE CERTAINLY WORTHY OF LANDMARK STATUS OR CERTAINLY SERIOUS CONSIDERATION, HOWEVER, FOR WHAT WE KNOW OF THE CHURCH ITSELF, UH, AND JUST ON THE MERITS OF ITS ARCHITECTURAL VALUE ALONE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS DOES RISE TO A FULL LANDMARK STATUS. UM, HOWEVER, I, I DON'T FEEL I CAN VOTE IN SUPPORT OF THIS MOTION. UM, BUT I WILL CALL THE QUESTION THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. AND THAT IS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, SEVEN. IS THAT RIGHT? AND THOSE OPPOSE AND THREE OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION CARRIES, UH, LET ME ALSO, UH, PASS ON MY, MY THANK YOU TO, UH, MICHELLE ROGERS AND LYNCH. UH, SHE WAS VERY HELPFUL IN PROVIDING ME INFORMATION AND KEEPING ME ABREAST OF DEVELOPMENTS. UH, BUT, UH, AGAIN, I, I THINK THAT THIS IS JUST, I WISH THE OWNER WERE ABLE TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OTHER ALTERNATIVES. UM, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE ONE LAST CASE. UH, IS THAT CORRECT? ITEM D 13? [3.D.13. HR-2021-029739 – 1308 Travis Heights – Consent Council District 9] THAT'S CORRECT. YES. WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE OUT BEFORE WE ADJOURN AFTER EIGHT 13 CHAIRMAN, WHICH ONE IS THAT? THAT'S THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE. IT NEEDS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF BEFORE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THIS WEEK. THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER. OKAY. SHALL WE PROCEED WITH THE ITEM D 13, THEN 1308, TRAVIS HEIGHTS, UH, ITEM D 13 IS AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH A 1922 HOUSE. UH, THIS IS A ONE STORY BUNGALOW WITH HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING, A HIP THROUGH THE CLIP, STABLE AT THE FACADE, A PARTIAL WITH PORCH, AND IT IS ATTACHED TO CARPORT. FENESTRATION INCLUDES PAIRED ONE OVER ONE WINDOWS AND A REPLACEMENT PICTURE WINDOW. THE PAST IS BUILT AROUND 1922. I WOULD HOLD TEA AND FOUND THE LAYMAN. THE LAYMAN'S DO NOT STAY IN THE HOUSE LONG. AND BY 1927, THEY HAD BUILT A PROPERTY TO THE MILWAUKEE FAMILY AS LONGEST TERM RESIDENTS. JAMES MALLOY WORKED AS A HARDWARE CLERK AT THE WALTER TIP COMPANY. HIS WIFE, MARY MALORA WAS AN ACTIVE LEADER IN CHARITY WORK FOR ST. IGNATIUS CATHOLIC CHURCH. AND SHE HELPED TO FOUND THE HOME OF THE HOLY INFANCY, WHICH IS A CHARITY FOR DEPENDENT AND FENCE AT SETON HOSPITAL. SHE SERVED ALSO AS A PRESIDENT AFTER MARY MULLOY'S STAFF IN 1944, HER SON, JAMES H MALLOY, AND HIS WIFE EDNA OCCUPIED THE HOMES UPON RETURNING FROM EUROPE AS A VETERAN OF WORLD WAR TWO ONLY WORKED AS A PROJECTIONIST FOR VARIOUS SCHOOLS AND THEATERS. HE WAS AN ACTIVE FILM UNION MEMBER AND VOLUNTEERED AS A FILM EDUCATOR. UH, THIS HOUSE IS LISTED AS A POTENTIALLY CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE AND DEPENDING TRAVIS HEIGHTS THERE BE PART NATIONAL REGISTERING AT DISTRICTS. UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE, REUSE AND RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, BUT RELEASED THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. UM, STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE IT RETAINED, UM, THE INTEGRITY OR NEEDS TO BE A HISTORIC DESIGNATION CRITERIA. [04:20:01] UM, IN ITEMS A THROUGH E COMMISSIONERS, WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE? DO I HEAR A MOTION? I WOULD LIKE YOUR BOOK. I WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO APRIL FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT I REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT ON THE OTHER TRAVIS HEIGHTS HOUSE. UM, I JUST LIKE TO CLARIFY, IT'S NOT POTENTIALLY CONTRIBUTING, IT'S CONTRIBUTING TO A PENDING DISTRICT. UM, UH, IT'S ALREADY PASSED THE STATE BOARD OF REVIEW, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN LISTED YET. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY PERHAPS TO DISCUSS RETAINING THE PROPERTY, UH, MAYBE WITH AN ADDITION ON THE REAR OR OTHER, UM, LESS VISIBLE SIDE. UM, AND SO THAT'S MY MOTION TO POSTPONE UNTIL APRIL. IS THERE A SECOND COMMISSIONER COOK, MS. MEYERS, WOULD YOU WANT TO SPEAK ANY FURTHER? I THINK THAT'S IT. COMMISSIONER COOK? UH, I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER MEYER, CHAIRMAN CHAIRPERSON MEYER'S COMMENTS AND THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT APPROVAL CAN COME NONE TOO SOON BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE DROPPING LIKE FLIES AND WE CAN DO THAT SIX MONTH EMULATION DELAY ON THIS REALLY SIGNIFICANT NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIR MEYER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COOK, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. IT'S THE MOTION TO POSTPONE. UH, I SEE, UH, NINE VOTES, ALL THOSE AGAINST AND ONE COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON. OKAY. THE MOTION FIRESTONE PASSES. UM, I'M NOTING THE TIME WE HAVE SEVEN MINUTES BEFORE OUR DEADLINE, UH, CHAIR MYERS, WOULD YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION FROM THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE? OR SHOULD WE ASK FOR AN EXTENSION? WE ACTUALLY, WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL ITEM BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, AND I'M HOPING WE CAN WRAP UP BOTH BY 10 30. UH, WE NEED TO ADDRESS ITEM G, WHICH IS APPROVAL OF THE ANNUAL, THE RESULTS OF THE ANNUAL INSPECTION FOR HISTORIC LANDMARKS, SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT TO THE TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BY OUR APRIL 1ST DEADLINE. SO I WILL NOT MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THAT, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE ABOUT THE INSPECTION RESULTS. GOOD CHEER MYERS. DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? NO, NOT ON THAT. EITHER COMMISSIONER COOK, ONE QUICK QUESTION. ON, ON THE FAILS ON THERE, AT WHAT POINT DOES A FAIL VEER TOWARD DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT, AND IS THERE, IS THERE A DIFFERENT CATEGORY FOR THOSE THAT ARE GONE BEYOND FAILING TO SOMETHING WORSE? UH, THERE, THERE CERTAINLY ARE SOME THAT ARE BEYOND THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY. UH, THE SALES AND THE DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT CERTAINLY WILL NOT RECEIVE, UH, THE TAX EXEMPTION. I HAVE PERMISSION TO, I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF. I HAVE A PROPERTY THAT'S ON THAT LIST. OKAY. SO NOTED. UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO FAST SCUFF LAWS? OKAY. DID I HEAR A MOTION? I'M SORRY. THEY'VE NEVER STEERED US WRONG BEFORE I MOVED THAT, UM, WE STAND STAFF FORWARD WITH THEIR LIST. OKAY. THE MOTION BY CHAIR MEYERS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VALID SUELA ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. AND WE HAVE, UH, NINE, FOUR WITH ONE ABSTENTION, UH, COMMISSIONER. THANK, UM, OKAY. UH, CHAIR [4.A.1. Architectural Review Committee] MYERS PRESERVATION. THE ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO BUMP UP THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE DID MEET, AND MANY OF THOSE APPLICATIONS WERE ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT, SOME TOO GOOD TO GET RESULT, BUT I WANTED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PRESERVATION WOOD PLAN COMMITTEE. UM, THAT COMMISSIONER HAIM, SETH HAS OFFERED TO REPRESENT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, UM, TO THE COUNCIL, UH, TO, IT COULD BE PART OF AN ENDEAVOR TO ENCOURAGE GREATER DIVERSITY AND EQUITY, UH, IN THE PRESERVATION PROGRAM. AND, UH, BEN HAS OFFERED TO REPRESENT US ON THIS AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A VOTE SO THAT WE CAN WHERE PRESENT SO THAT WE CAN RECOMMEND HIS, UM, APPOINTMENT TO THE, TO THIS COMMISSION. [04:25:01] OKAY. OKAY. UM, I GUESS A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND. OKAY. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER CHAIR MEYERS? THIS, THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LET COUNCIL KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING AND THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING TO TRY TO INCREASE. UM, UNDER-REPRESENTATIVE, UH, UH, UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES IN, UH, AUSTIN TO HIGHLIGHT THEIR, UH, ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE CITY, UM, IN THE PRESERVATION PROGRAM. SO, AND, UM, AND MY JOB WAS JUST TO BE EXPLAINER. I JUST GIVE HIM A GOOD, UH, LET ME DO THIS. TONIGHT SHOWED US, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE PRESERVATION OFFICE CAN, UH, CAN ACHIEVE. AND I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD, UH, AND TIMELY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. UH, JEREMIAH IS, LET ME TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU SO YOU CAN BRING THIS MEETING TO A CLOSE, OH, WAIT, SHE JUST LOST. WE JUST LOST HER. WELL, WE'LL BE HERE ALL NIGHT. WE'LL BE HERE ALL DAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN. IF, UH, THIS BROWN BAROMETER WE FINISHED WITH ALL THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF, WE ARE FINISHED. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. OKAY. AND WE DID IT BEFORE THE DEADLINE. WE THANK CITY STAFF AND THE TECHNICAL STAFF FOR THE EXTENSION, AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I SENT ONE FROM COMMISSIONER COOK BY A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JACOB. AND, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE. SO EVERYBODY RESET YOUR COUNTERS. WE'VE HAD ONE MEETING SINCE THE LAST ACT OF GOD, UH, COMMISSION CANCELLATION. SO WE'VE GOT ALL THE WAY UP TO 10 AS WE'RE BACK TO ONE. OKAY. CROSS YOUR ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME. AND I CALL THIS MEETING A JURY. THANK YOU ALL. . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.