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[00:00:02]

LET'S MOVE FORWARD.

SO THIS

[CALL TO ORDER]

IS THE MEETING OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.

IT IS TUESDAY, MARCH 23RD, 5:31 PM.

AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL, UM, VICE CHAIR FOR A SET OR AMENDMENT TO PALMA RESIDENT, OR MEMBER RINALDI HERE, BOARD MEMBER DECARLO, K BOARD MEMBER, MASON MURPHY HERE.

WE'RE A MEMBER FAUST, PRESENT WARD MEMBER, MORGAN BOARD MEMBER, LUCA AND BOARD MEMBER TAYLOR AND BOARD MEMBER CUTTING SIDLED HERE.

OKAY, SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.

THE

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

FIRST WE HAVE SOME CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, I BELIEVE RIGHT? CME.

YES.

CHAIR LEWIS.

WE DO.

SO SHOULD WE JUST GO AHEAD AND HAVE THEM SPEAK IT TO COMMUNICATION? YES, WE'LL GO.

WE TAKE ALL OF THEM AT THE START.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD WITH THE LIST IF YOU'RE READY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, JIM.

SCHWABEL I BELIEVE YOU'RE ON THE LINE.

IF YOU CANNOT MUTE YOURSELF, I BELIEVE I'M ON MUTE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.

WE CAN, UH, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED AND ADDRESS THE BOARD.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS JIM SCHWABEL.

I'M THE CO-PRESIDENT OF THE EASTWOOD'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THAT'S A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD JUST NORTH OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS LAW SCHOOL.

AND WITHIN OUR BOUNDARIES IS EASTWOODS PARK.

AND I JUST WANT TO, UH, ASK, UH, IF THERE ARE METHODS, IF THERE ARE SOME METHODS WE CAN USE TO ENSURE THAT THE CURFEW OF OUR PARK IS OBSERVED, UH, WE HAVE, UH, PERIODIC, UH, CAMPERS THERE WHO OCCUPY, UH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE FEW PARK BENCHES, AND THEY BASICALLY HAVE TAKEN OVER A CORNER OF, OF THE PARK.

UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE PARK PARK POLICE, AND THERE'S THREE ONE, ONE, AND ALL THAT.

WE'VE TRIED SEVERAL OF THOSE METHODS, UM, WITH, UH, VERY LIMITED RESULTS.

IS THERE ADVICE YOU HAVE FOR ME? OKAY.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT REALLY ALLOWED TO, UM, ASK QUESTIONS DURING OR PROVIDED BY STEERING AND CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

WE'RE JUST HERE TO LISTEN, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY QUESTION.

THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

BUT THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, KIMBERLY MCNEALY, I'LL HAVE SAM MAYBE, UM, AND SHANE HER THAT WE HAVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WILL REACH OUT TO THANK YOU.

WELL, WE'VE CONTACTED WEST.

UH, THANK YOU AGAIN, WE, WE CONTACTED A, UH, UH, HAD THE NAME HERE, UH, WEST, UH, SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE NAME RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME HERE.

THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

AND OF COURSE HE, HE, UH, DETAILED TO US THE LIMITATIONS THAT THEY HAVE WITH THE STAFFING AND ALL OF THAT, BUT THE STILL THE PROBLEM PERSISTS AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.

THANK YOU.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO, TO LET US KNOW.

AND, UM, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEMS ARE RELATED TO ITEMS, B2 AND B3 ON THE AGENDA.

WE TAKE ALL PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE START OF THE MEETING, SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD INTO THOSE, UM, BILL BUNCH.

IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, MR. BENCH, WE'LL BE ADDRESSING YOU REGARDING ITEM B2 AND B3, MR. BUNCH, IF YOU'RE READY.

UH, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.

IS THIS YOU MR. BUNCH? YES.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL START YOUR THREE MINUTES RIGHT NOW.

[00:05:01]

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

A MEMBER OF THE PARKS BOARD FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN THESE DIFFICULT TIMES, I'M BILL BONDS, LONG TIME RESIDENCE, ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THIS YEAR I'M ALSO PRESIDENT OF THE ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE DID TAKE A VOTE TO, UM, OPPOSE THE OPTION.

ONE B THAT HAS BEEN, UH, RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND WHICH I BELIEVE Y'ALL SUPPORTED LAST MONTH.

UH, WE CERTAINLY THANK, UH, CHAIR LEWIS AND OTHER BOARD MEMBERS FOR RECONSIDERING.

THIS MATTER TODAY, IT'S REALLY APPRECIATED.

UM, THE ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE COMMITTEE ALSO ENCOURAGES YOU TO, UM, GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE OPTION OF RE-PURPOSING ONE OF THE, UH, AUSTIN ISD SCHOOL SITES, UH, THAT ARE BEING, UM, CLOSED FOR THE DOOR TO YARD CENTER.

UM, I WENT BACK AND WATCH THE FULL, UH, PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY COUNCIL BACK IN MAY OF 2019, THAT'S REFERENCED IN YOUR BACKEND BACKUP MATERIALS AND THE CITY COUNCIL WHILE THEY DIDN'T PUT IT IN THEIR FINAL RESOLUTION.

I THINK BECAUSE THEY, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD TO CLOSE THE SCHOOLS.

THERE'S THE BIG FIGHT TO KEEP THEM OPEN.

UM, BUT THEY CLEARLY INTENDED THAT, THAT THE CITY CIRCLED BACK AND LOOK AT RE-PURPOSING ONE OF THOSE SCHOOL SITES, WHICH COULD BE A FABULOUS, UH, DOHERTY ARTS CENTER, BUT WITH THE PLAYGROUNDS IN PLACE, THE PARKING IN PLACE, IT WOULD BE A RARE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY EXPAND PARKLAND IN THE CENTRAL CITY RATHER THAN DIMINISH IT BY PAVING OVER YET MORE OF OUR, OUR VERY SKIP SCARE CENTRAL PARKLAND.

SO, NO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING.

THERE'S SORT OF A RUSH TO GET THIS DONE, BUT THIS IS A 50 OR A HUNDRED YEAR DECISION AND YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T BE RUSHED INTO IT.

AND WITH OUR CITY CHANGING SO FAST, UM, IT, IT REALLY SHOULD BE THE RIGHT DECISION.

UM, THE SLIDE, THE ONE V SITE IS NOT THE SITE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR BACKUP, THEY, THE BIG MARK CRYSTAL CLEAR IS UP CLOSE TO ZACK THEATER.

IT'S NOT OVER ON TOP OF THE LAKE WITH, YOU KNOW, A FABULOUS LEG VIEW.

UM, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY APPROVED.

THE ONE, THE SIDE IS NOT THE DIRECTION FROM CITY COUNCIL.

UM, SO PLEASE WITH OUR SKYROCKETING CENTRAL CITY PARKLAND, UH, POPULATION, UM, OUR PARK, YOU KNOW, SQUARE FOOT PER PERSON IS, IS PLUMMETING.

WE NEED TO BE UNPAID THING.

OUR CENTRAL PARKLAND NOT PAVING IT FURTHER.

AND I HOPE YOU'D CONSIDER A BROADER POLICY THAT WE BASICALLY PUT A MORATORIUM ON ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT OF CENTRAL CITY PARK LAND, UH, WITH THE OVERWHELMING PREFERENCE THAT LET'S SEIZE THE RARE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THOSE AND THE THESE SCHOOL SITES NOW ARE, ARE IDEAL FOR A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN AISD AND THE CITY.

SO THANK YOU.

AND AGAIN, AGAIN FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT CALLER IS MEGAN .

MEGAN IS SORRY.

YES.

ARE YOU, I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE SPEAKER.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? A CLARIFICATION QUESTION? UH, YEAH, GO AHEAD REAL QUICK, BUT JUST ONE QUESTION.

OKAY.

WELL, I JUST WASN'T SURE.

I WANTED TO KNOW.

HE MENTIONED, UM, THE SCHOOL SITES AND I THINK I RECALL THE SCHOOLS WERE, COULD YOU DO THIS IT'S PEAS AND SIMS AND P SIMS MATS AND BROOKE, AND THEY'RE ALL FAIRLY CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE CITY, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THE PANDEMIC AND A FURTHER LOSS OF, OF STUDENTS THAT THERE'S LIKELY TO BE OTHER SCHOOLS CLOSING SOON AS WELL, BUT, BUT ANY OF THOSE WOULD BE GREAT SITES, A COUPLE OF THREE OF THOSE FOUR OR ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE EAST SIDE WHERE WE VERY MUCH SHOULD BE INVESTING SOME OF OUR PUBLIC DOLLARS AND, AND IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, MEGAN MEISENBACH ARE YOU ON THE LINE?

[00:10:06]

DID WE LOSE MEGAN? SHE'S ON MUTE ON OUR END.

ARE YOU THERE? THIS IS MEGAN.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

MA'AM, WE'LL START YOUR THREE MINUTES RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THE BOARD FOR SERVING AND I'M HAPPY TO RECOGNIZE A COUPLE OF YOU.

AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR RECONSIDERING THE SITE OF THE, OF THE ARTS CENTER.

UM, AS A MUSICIAN, I'VE PLAYED IN THE OLD DOHERTY ARTS CENTER AND, UM, MARIE UNDERSTANDING OF THE ARTS IS A LOT OF IT TAKES PLACE INSIDE A BUILDING.

DOESN'T REALLY NEED A VIEW OF THE LIGHTS.

I THINK THE VIEW OF THE LIGHT MIGHT BE BETTER SERVED WITH OTHER THINGS.

AND I KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE TRAIL APPRECIATE HAVING OPEN SPACE, UM, RATHER THAN BUILDINGS AROUND THEM.

UM, I ALSO, UM, APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT A SCHOOL WOULD BE A WONDERFUL PLACE TO HAVE THE DIRTY ART CENTER, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE WONDERFUL AUDITORIUMS OR MULTI-PURPOSE ROOMS THAT WOULD WORK TERRIFICALLY FOR, UM, DORY ART CENTER.

AND, UM, I ALSO, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THE PARKS BOARD AND THE PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY HARD ON THESE PROPOSALS WOULD JUST LOOK AT WHAT LAND THEY COULD USE AGAIN.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

OUR FINER FINAL SPEAKER THIS EVENING IS LINDA GUERRERO.

MS. GUERRERO, ARE YOU ONLINE AND UN-MUTED YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

MA'AM YOUR THREE MINUTES STARTS RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

CHAIR LEWIS AND PARKS BOARD MEMBERS.

I'M LINDA GUERRERO, THE CHAIR, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO, UM, DISCUSS WHY WE DID NOT OPT FOR ONE B.

UH, WE WERE VERY, UM, DISTRESSED ABOUT REALLY ALL THE OPTIONS, BUT I WAS ABLE TO GET CONSENSUS THAT EVENING AND WE WERE ABLE TO SUPPORT OPTION ONE, A, UH, ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS HALEY WANTED THE BUILDINGS TO BE CLUSTERED CLOSER TOGETHER AND NOT SPREAD OUT SO FAR WITH THE FOOTPRINT AND THE LAYOUT AND, UH, ANOTHER, UM, UH, WE WERE UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE WE FELT IT WAS JUST A REAL RARE OPPORTUNITY THAT CONSIDERING THERE WAS A HERITAGE TREE THAT DESIGNED COULD HAVE BEEN, UM, MADE AROUND IT AND INCORPORATED IT INTO THE BUILDING.

IF, IF THAT HAD BEEN A PROPOSED SITUATION THAT WOULD HAVE MADE US HAPPIER.

HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT WE ALSO FELT INTENSELY STRONG ABOUT WANTING THE CLUSTERING OF THE BUILDINGS AND MORE OPEN SPACE.

AND SO WE DIDN'T WANT, UH, THE HERITAGE TREE TO BECOME KIND OF LIKE AN UNEMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL CARD THAT, YOU KNOW, HERITAGE TREES ARE RELOCATED.

AND SO IN OUR CONDITIONS, WE ASKED THAT I SHOULD, THE SCENARIO GO FORWARD WHERE A HERITAGE TREE HAS TO BE REMOVED.

IT CAN BE RELOCATED ON SITE SO THAT IT'S STILL IS ABLE TO MAINTAIN ITS BEAUTIFUL CANOPY AND GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WE ASKED FOR WAS THAT THERE BE A, A GREEN BUFFER CREATED, UH, BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE TRAIL AND THE LAKE.

UH, WE JUST FELT THAT IT WAS JUST TOO STARK AND TOO CLOSE UP AGAINST THAT AREA.

AND SO, UH, WE, WE PUT THAT INTO PART OF OUR CONDITIONS.

UM, WE WERE CONFUSED ABOUT THE PARKS, THE RE THE, THE PARKS BUILDING, THE STAFF BUILDING CURRENTLY THEY'RE ON SITE.

UH, WE DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS GOING TO BE INCORPORATED IF Y'ALL WERE LEAVING, IT WAS KIND OF CONFUSING, BUT WE DID ALL AGREE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THAT BUILDING SHOULD HAVE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION.

UH, I'M SURE IT WAS QUALIFIED FOR, FOR MID-CENTURY POSSIBILITY.

UH, AND THEN, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE STORM WATER CONTROLS RELATED TO THE SITTING OF THE BUILDINGS, UH, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE LAKE AND THE VICINITY OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS THAT THERE WERE.

AND THEN I GUESS THAT, UM, ONE OF THE OTHER, UM, POSSIBILITIES WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU CLUSTER THESE BUILDINGS MORE AWAY FROM THE TRAIL AND AWAY

[00:15:01]

FROM THAT LAKE, BECAUSE AS MR BUNCH SAID, YOU KNOW, OUR POPULATION IS GETTING HEAVIER AND HEAVIER, THERE COULD BE OPPORTUNITIES LATER IN THE FUTURE THAT WE'LL NEED THOSE TRAILS TO WIDEN OR CHANGE OR MORPH.

AND SO WE NEED THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE FUTURE AS AUSTIN CONTINUES TO GROW.

AND, UM, WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT THOSE WERE SOME OF THE REASONS THAT WE OPTED FOR ONE A, UM, UH, UNDER OUR ENVIRONMENTAL UMBRELLA.

SO, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

AND, UM, THE LAST THING WAS THAT WE WANTED Y'ALL TO REACH OUT THE DESIGN TEAM, TO REACH OUT AND COORDINATE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BOTH THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL RUMOR, EXCUSE ME, USERS, AS IT RELATES TO THE PARKING LOT TO ME, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S A VERY TIGHT, SMALL NARROW STREET.

AND SO WE HAVE TO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A LOT OF CONSIDERATION FOR THE MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

GOOD LUCK THIS EVENING.

BYE-BYE LIKE, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S THAT THE LAST CITIZEN COMMUNICATION SAMMY? YES.

CHAIR LEWIS.

THAT IS OKAY.

SO LET'S

[A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS.

AND IF, IF SO, LET US KNOW.

AND IF NOT, THEN LET'S, UM, DOES SOMEBODY WANT HIM TO APPROVE THEM? I'LL MOVE APPROVAL.

I'LL SECOND.

GREAT.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE, UH, I THINK WE'RE MEMBER FALSE MOVED AND, UM, CAN BE SECONDED.

I THINK IT WAS REMEMBER COTTON.

CYBIL PERFECT.

DID YOU GET THAT SAMMY? ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR POSED.

I CAN'T SEE A VICE CHAIR FOR US UP, BUT HE'S HERE.

CAN YOU HEAR US? I'M T YEAH.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

HAD SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES GETTING IN MY BAG.

I UNDERSTAND.

OKAY.

SO WE, WE JUST VOTED ON IMPROVING THE MINUTES.

IF YOU GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM OR NOT.

SO YOU APPROVE.

I DO APPROVE.

OKAY.

SO IT'S UNANIMOUS AND WE'LL MOVE ON.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[B.1. Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding the Parks and Recreation Department Fiscal Year 2021-2022 budget. (PARD Long Range Plan Strategies – Operational Efficiency; SD23 Outcomes – Government that Works for All) Presenter(s): Vanorda Richardson, Financial Manager III, Parks and Recreation Department]

THEN WE HAVE THE NEW BUSINESS PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ISILON'S FIRST PRESENTATION DISCUSSING IMPOSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

FISCAL YEAR, 2021 THROUGH 22 BUDGETS.

AND WE HAVE, UM, THE NUORDER RICHARDSON, I BELIEVE.

HELLO, EVERYONE.

WAIT A MINUTE.

LET THEM PULL UP THE PERSONAL STATION.

YOU CAN HEAR ME OKAY.

YES.

YES.

WE CAN HEAR YOU FINE.

OKAY, GREAT.

BUT NOR DO WE HAVE YOUR PRESENTATION UP? IT'S READY TO GO.

YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT ON THE SCREEN.

YES.

YES.

LET'S START ON THE TITLE PAGE OR LOOKS GREAT.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING.

HI EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS RENATA REGISTERING.

I AM THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DIVISION MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU, CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET FORECAST.

NEXT SLIDE.

HIGH-LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION.

OKAY.

OUR CURRENT APPROVED OPERATING BUDGET IS RIGHT AT $110 MILLION, WHICH INCLUDES FUNDING FOR 744 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

OUR DEPARTMENT IS A GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENT AND 75% OF HIS FUNDING IS SUPPORTED PRIMARILY BY TEXT ERIC ADDITIONAL SOURCES OF FUNDS THAT WE'VE COLLECTED

[00:20:01]

INCLUDE ENTRY FEES, FEES FOR SWIM LESSONS AND FACILITY RENTAL FEES AMONG OTHERS.

POD CHART REPRESENTS THE CURRENT BUDGET CATEGORIZED BY THE FOUR MAJOR PARK PROGRAM AREAS.

APPROXIMATELY 57% OF OUR FUNDING IS ALLOCATED TO COMMUNITY SERVICES, WHICH INCLUDES THE RECREATION CENTERS, MUSEUMS, CULTURAL ARTS CENTERS, AND AQUATIC FACILITIES.

27% APART.

FUNDING IS ALLOCATED TO PARK PLANNING AND OPERATIONS.

THIS CATEGORY INCLUDES PARK PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT GROUNDS MAINTENANCE FACILITY SERVICES, AND ALSO CEMETERY OPERATIONS.

16% OF OUR FUNDING IS ALLOCATED TO SUPPORT SERVICES AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS, SUPPORT SERVICES INCLUDES OVERHEAD TYPES OF SERVICES, SUCH AS INFORMATION, TECHNOLOGY SUPPORT AND ACCOUNTING SERVICES, NEW BUDGET ITEMS THAT WERE ADDED DURING THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 2021 IN OUR APPROVED BUDGET INCLUDE 638,000 ADDED TO SUPPORT FOR THREE SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH VARIOUS NEW LAND ACQUISITIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF TRAILS.

THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING INCLUDES SUPPORT FOR THE HIRING OF FOUR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, THREE HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATORS, AND ONE PART BROWNS COACHING, A 50,000 WAS ADDED FOR CONTRACTUAL INCREASES THAT WILL OCCUR WITHIN THIS FISCAL YEAR.

MAJORITY OF THIS FUNDING IS TO COVER THE COST INCREASE IN RELATION TO THE SENIOR CONGREGATE MEALS SERVICES PROGRAM FOR EXISTING SITES AND FOR MEALS SERVICES AT TWO ADDITIONAL SITES, THE TURNER ROBERTS, THE RECREATION CENTER AND THE ASIAN AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER.

ADDITIONALLY, 1.2 MILLION AND SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING WAS ADDED TO PART SPACE BUDGET TO SUPPORT THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF NEW LAND ACQUISITION EXPANDED AND REDEVELOPED PARKLAND FACILITIES AND POOLS FOR WHICH RELATED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WILL BE COMPLETED DURING THIS FISCAL YEAR.

THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING INCLUDES SUPPORT FOR CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, AS WELL AS FOR ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE POSITIONS, A PLUMBER AND ELECTRICIAN WHO MECHANIC, UM, MY AUNT AND MAKE A MAINTENANCE WORKER.

THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING WILL AID THE PARTS, GROUNDS, MAINTENANCE FACILITIES, SERVICES, BARN, STREET, AND AQUATICS DIVISIONS, AND KEEPING UP WITH SARGUS DOMAIN.

NEXT SLIDE, AS WE, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PLAN STRATEGIZE AND IMPLEMENT WAYS IN WHICH FUNDING IS USED, IT IS DONE WITH OUR STRATEGIC DIRECTION GOALS AND MEASURES IN LINE.

BEFORE WE CARRY FORWARD WITH FUNDING, OUR WORK PLANS, WE ASKED THE QUESTION, DOES IT ALIGN WITH OUR LONG RANGE STRATEGIC GOALS? OUR CURRENT STRATEGIC GOALS ARE ACTIVATE IN AND IN HIS URBAN PARK SPACES TO PROVIDE FLEXIBLE AND DIVERSE PROGRAMMING, ALIGN, ACCESSIBLE, AND DIVERSE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES WITH COMMUNITY NEEDS AND INTEREST ENSURED THE PARTS SYSTEM, PRESERVES, RECREATIONAL AND NATURAL SPACES TO SERVE AS A RESPITE FROM URBAN LIFE AND IN APPROVED AND EXPAND AND IMPROVE ACCESS TO PARKS AND FACILITIES FOR ALL THE DATA AND GRAPH ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND.

UPPER RIGHT OF THE SLIDE ILLUSTRATES TWO APART.

KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR, PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

THE ACTUAL PERCENTAGES ARE BASED ON RESULTS FROM THE ANGLE CITY OF AUSTIN COMMUNITY SURVEY, ACCORDING TO THE 2020 SURVEY RESULTS, ART SCORES, 74% AND OVERALL RESIDENTS SATISFACTION WITH THE QUALITY OF PARKS AND RECREATIONAL SERVICES.

AND 64% OF RESIDENTS HAVE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO PARKS AND OPEN SPACES.

OUR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR GOALS OR TARGETS ARE THERE 85% OR MORE RESIDENTS ARE SATISFIED WITH THE PARTY OF PARKS OR RECREATIONAL SERVICES.

AND

[00:25:01]

THAT'S 70% OF MORE RESIDENTS HAVE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO PARKS AND OPEN SPACES.

WE BELIEVE IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR STRATEGIC GOALS, AS OUR COMPASS, MAINTAINING OUR HIGH QUALITY SERVICES AND PROGRAMS AND IMPLEMENTING NEW WORK CLEANINGS, AND WE WILL SEE THE NEW, THE NEEDLE MOVE MORE TOWARDS OUR TARGET PERFORMANCE PERFORMANCE GOALS.

BEFORE WE MOVE OUT TO THE NEXT SECTION OF THE PRESENTATION, I JUST WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET EXPENDITURES, UM, THIS TIME, UH, K UM, LOOKING AT THE PATRIOTIC ABOUT THEM, UM, THE EXPENDITURES, UM, ARE REPRESENTED BY THE FOUR MAJOR CATEGORIES IN TERMS OF, UM, EXPENDITURE CATEGORIES, PERSONNEL EXPENSES OF COURSE COUNTS FOR MAJORITY OF OUR EXPENSES AS 65%, 30% OF EXPENDITURES OFF OF CONTRACTED SERVICES, SUCH AS UTILITY SERVICES, OUTSOURCE SERVICES, UM, AND THEN 5% OF EXPENDITURES OFFER COMMODITIES OR CONSUMABLE GOODS SUCH AS RECREATIONAL SUPPLIES.

THE LINE GRAPH SHOWS OUR PART HAS SEEN A STEADY INCREASE TO ITS WORKFORCE.

53 POSITIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SIX YEARS, FISCAL YEARS, WHICH REPRESENTS ABOUT 8% GROWTH IN COMPARISON TO AUSTIN'S POPULATION, WHICH HAS GROWN OVER 6% WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.

THERE WERE, THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL 12 GENERAL FUND FTES THAT WERE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO NOW LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT PARTS FISCAL YEAR 2022 PROPOSED BUDGET FORECASTS.

WE ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND THIS DATA REPRESENTS PRELIMINARY FORECAST, BUT SUBMITTED BACK OR TO THE CITY'S BUDGET OFFICE.

AND THEY ARE ITEMS ARE PENDING REVIEW.

THE PRELIMINARY PROPOSAL REPRESENTS AN INCREASE OF $3.8 MILLION.

THIS INCREASE INCLUDES A REQUEST FOR FUNDING, NON NEWT, NINE NEW FTES, ANY PUT A REQUEST OF 11 POSITIONS TO BE INTERNALLY FUNDED BY REALITY TABLE PARTS, SOME OF PARTS, CURRENT CASE BUDGET 1.3 MILLION OF THE 3.8 MILLION IS FOR CITY-WIDE COST DRIVERS, SUCH AS EMPLOYEE WAGE ADJUSTMENT INCREASES FLEET MAINTENANCE AND FUEL COST AND ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES PROVIDED BY OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.

THE PRELIMINARY PROPOSED PROPOSED FORECAST BUDGET ALSO INCLUDES 2.5 MILLION FOR REQUESTED DEPARTMENT WIDE COST DRIVERS RELATED TO INITIATIVES PREVIOUS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, 700,000 IN OPERATING COSTS AND 540,000 A ONE TIME COST IS BEING REQUESTED TO ENHANCE THE PARK RANGERS PROGRAM.

CURRENTLY ONLY 21 PARK RANGERS PROVIDE COVERAGE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, OR OVER 300 PARKS COMPRISED OF 17,000 PAID AUSTIN CONTINUES TO GROW BOTH IN POPULATION AND IN PARKING.

EACH PART IS REQUESTING SIX ADDITIONAL PARK RANGER POSITIONS TO HELP ADDRESS THIS ADDITIONAL GROWTH IN DOMAIN.

AN INCREASE IN ANOTHER PARK.

RANGERS CAN HELP FACILITATE SUCCESS REGARDING HAVE VISIBLE RESPONSIBILITIES, SUCH AS VOLUNTEER COMPLIANCE WITH GENERAL PARK REGULATIONS THROUGHOUT THE PARTS TRAIL SYSTEMS OR REMOTE GREENBELT SPACES.

SECONDLY, ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND ASSOCIATED ENCAMPMENTS, AND CURRENTLY ADDRESSING PARKING VIOLATIONS, ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR CEMETERY OPERATIONS, INTERMENT AND MONUMENT SETTING SERVICES IS BEING REQUESTED.

THE CURRENT CURRENT COUNTRY CONTRACT AND TERMINATE SERVICES AGREEMENT ENDS IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR CEMETERY OPERATIONS, AND IS CLOSELY SHADOWED MONITOR AND EXAMINE THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE PRIVATE CONTRACTOR.

AND BASED ON LESSONS LEARNED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES OF 380,000

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AND OPERATING FROST, WHICH INCLUDES THREE FTES AND 112,000 AT ONE TIME COSTS ARE BEING REQUESTED TO SOME OF THE KEY LESSONS LEARNED, UH, ONE ALONG WITH MAINTAINING OUR CURRENT MAIN GROUNDS MAINTENANCE SCHEDULES, THE ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES, UM, THAT WE WILL HAVE TO CHECK ON WILL REQUIRE CEMETERY OPERATIONS TO OPERATE WITH TWO SHIFTS AND EMPLOYEES WORKING ON THE WEEKENDS TO PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE PROVIDED BY THE CURRENT CONTRACTOR AND TO MEET THE DEATH CARE INDUSTRY INDUSTRY STANDARDS.

UH, SECONDLY, UM, THE SECOND LESSON LEARNED SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT, MORE SPECIALIZED FOR ME IN TRAINING WOULD BE NECESSARY TO SAFELY IT EXCAVATE MEANING DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT TYPES OF SAW AND ROCK AND TO NAVIGATE TIGHT SPACES AND UNEVEN TERRAIN.

AND THIRDLY, UM, BASED ON RECENT TRENDS, CEMETERY OPERATIONS ANTICIPATES THE STEADY INCREASE IN MONUMENT SETTINGS AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THEM.

WE ARE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF NEW EXPANDED AND REDEVELOPED PARKLAND FACILITIES ONCE AGAIN, BUT FOR PROJECTS THAT WILL BE COMPLETED OVER THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, 2022, THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING WOULD AID THE PARTS, GROUNDS, MAINTENANCE FACILITY SERVICES, FORESTRY, AND AQUATICS DIVISIONS.

AGAIN, IN KEEPING UP WITH SERVICE DEMAND, UH, BASED ON CURRENT DATA PROJECTIONS PART WE'LL ACQUIRE, UM, OVER 400 ACRES OF LAND THROUGH PURCHASE OF PARKLAND DEDICATION, UM, THAT WILL NEED TO BE MAINTAINED.

SO FOR EACH OF THE SUBMITTED FORECAST BUDGET REQUEST, ITEMS THAT JUST DESCRIBED IN DETAIL, WE BELIEVE THEY ALL MEET THE DEFINITION OF BASE COST DRIVERS, WHICH ARE DEFINED AS INCREASES THAT ARE ALLOWABLE.

IF THEY ARE GETTING NECESSARY TO ACCOMMODATE ITEMS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BACK THE CITY CANCELING DUE TO CURRENT FINANCIAL LIMITATIONS RELATED TO PROPERTY TAX CAPS AND THE COVID-19 RESPONSE DEPARTMENTS UNMET NEEDS OR EXPANDED PROGRAMMING OR SERVICES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE FORECAST BUDGET.

THANK YOU.

I EVER THROUGH COMMUNITY REQUEST FOR THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS AND OUR COUNCIL ACTIONS, DEPARTMENTS NEEDS, CAN'T BE COMMUNICATED IN A DRESS DURING OUR BUSINESS AND BUDGET PLANNING PROCESS.

UH, WE AS A DEPARTMENT, UM, IDENTIFIED SOME NEEDS THAT, UM, MAY NOT MEET THE DEFINITION OF A BASE COST DRIVER.

UM, A FEW EXAMPLES ARE THE NEED TO INCREASE SUMMER CAMP AND HALF THE SCHOOL ACTIVITY, THE NEED TO INCREASE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SUPPORT, AND IT NEED TO ADD SECURITY SERVICES FOR VARIOUS FULL FACILITIES.

THAT'S JUST A NAME OF A FEW.

WE HAVE A LIST OF OTHER DEPARTMENT UNMET NEEDS THAT WE WILL SHARE WITH YOU AT THE END OF, OH, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS PRESENTATION, SLAP I MENTIONED IN, UM, ALSO INCLUDE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATION, I MENTIONED THAT WE INCLUDED, UM, UH, PROPOSAL REQUESTS IN OUR FORECAST BUDGET PROPOSAL, UM, 11 POSITIONS TO BE ESTABLISHED BY RE ALLOCATING FUNDING THUS RESULTING IN $0 IMPACT ON THE JOURNAL FUND, UH, LANDSCAPE OR ARCHITECT POSITION, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED ENTIRELY THROUGH PARKLAND.

DEDICATION REVENUE WILL ASSIST THE DEPARTMENT WITH COMPLIANCE OF HB 31 67, WHICH IS A STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES CITIES TO SPEED UP THE SITE PLAN, SUBDIVISION APPROVAL PROCESS, UM, SEVEN, SEVEN, FOUR, THREE SERVICES POSITIONS.

THE ONE AQUATICS FARMER POSITION ARE TO BE FUNDED OR PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED FIVE CONVERTING CONTRACTUAL SERVICES, BUDGET HOURS, SO THAT WORK CAN BE CARRIED OUT IN-HOUSE VERSUS CONTRACTING.

UM, A PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR POSITION IS BEING

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PROPOSED TO ASSIST WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF PARTNERSHIPS AND IT'S BEING PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED OUT OF EXISTING ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES BUDGET.

AND THEN LASTLY, AN INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY APPLICATION DEVELOPER POSITION, UM, IT'S ALSO BEEN PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED USING EXISTING AND REALLY STRAIGHT UP SERVICES TO MEET CURRENT BUSINESS NEEDS.

PART HAS MADE THE INTERNAL DECISION TO RECLASSIFY A CURRENT VACANT POSITION TO AN EQUITY COORDINATOR POSITION.

THE EQUITY COORDINATOR WILL ASSIST PART IN IMPLEMENTING MONITORING AND EVALUATING THE DEPARTMENTS, EQUITY ASSESSMENT RECOMMENDATIONS AND ASSOCIATED OUTCOMES.

AND WE'LL ESTABLISH DEPARTMENT ACCOUNTABILITY FOR WORK PLANS RELATED TO EQUITY ASSESSMENT AND LONG RANGE PLANNING ALSO TO MEET CURRENT BUSINESS NEEDS.

CURRENT BASED FUNDING HAS BEEN REALLOCATED TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY SUPPORT FOR DEPARTMENT WIDE SECURITY, INTERNAL AUDITING DEPARTMENT, FEMA COST RECONCILIATION WORK RELATED TO THE RECENT RECENT WINTER STORM YURI.

NEXT SLAPS WINS.

SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR REVENUE FORECAST FAR AS GENERAL REVENUE BUDGET FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IS $14.5 MILLION.

I AM THE DUE TO THE EFFECTS OF THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.

WE ARE PROJECTING BY REVENUE COLLECTED FOR THE FIRST THIS FISCAL YEAR WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 4.2 MILLION.

THIS ESTIMATE IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REVENUE WOULD NOT BE RECEIVED DUE TO MODIFY OPERATIONS AND OR THE CLOSURE FOOLS, CONCESSIONS AND SUSPENSION OF PROGRAMMING PROGRAMMING THROUGH AT LEAST THE END OF JUNE ART ALONG WITH OTHER GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS HAS PUT IN PLACE CONSTABLE TANK MEASURES AND EFFORTS TO OFFSET THIS REVENUE DOWNSWING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 ARTISTS PROJECTING THE DEPARTMENT'S REVENUE TO BE 8.5 MILLION.

THIS ESTIMATE IS BASED ON ASSUMPTION ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT MODIFIED OPERATIONS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH AT LEAST THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BEFORE PARTS WILL START COLLECTING REVENUE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT FULLY OPERATIONAL LEVEL.

PLEASE KNOW, AS WE CONTINUE THE ANNUAL BUTTER PASSES, WHICH DOESN'T END UNTIL AUGUST, WE FULLY EXPECT THAT WE AS A DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES TO ADJUST OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, ESPECIALLY FOODS AND FACILITIES WOULD BE ALLOWED TO INCREASE MONOPOD OPERATIONS ARE EVEN ALLOWED TO OPERATE AT FULL CAPACITY BETWEEN NOW, NOW IN THE FISCAL YEAR.

NEXT SLIDE, SINCE JANUARY 14, THE INTERIM BUDGET OFFICER SENT A LETTER TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS OUTLINING THE IMPORTANT FACTORS AFFECTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT FOR 2022 PROPOSED BUDGET.

THE MEMO DISCUSSES THAT THE DEPARTMENTS WERE GIVEN DIRECTION TO REVIEW EXISTING PROBLEMS OR POTENTIAL BUSINESS PROCESS IMPROVEMENT, AND TO HAVE A BID BUDGET SUBMISSIONS REFLECT A FOCUS ON EQUITY AND DID IDENTIFYING EFFICIENCIES.

UH, LASTLY SHE REQUESTED THAT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATIONS SHOULD ALSO FOCUS ON EFFICIENCY, EFFECTIVENESS, AND EQUITY, UH, EXISTING PROBLEMS. IT SHOULD BE SUBMITTED VIA A TEMPLATE WHICH, UM, SHOULD BE SUPPLIED, UM, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UM, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATIONS OR DUE TO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON OR BEFORE APRIL 9TH, LIKE SLACK.

SO NEXT STEPS, UM, AGAIN, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION.

SO DURING FRIDAY, APRIL 9TH, OUR DEPARTMENT'S PROPOSED BUDGET SUBMISSION IS DUE TO THE BUDGET OFFICE.

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FRIDAY, MAY 17TH.

THE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN PROPOSED BUDGET WILL BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL ON JULY 9TH.

UM, THE COUNCIL BUDGET WORK SESSIONS WOULD TAKE PLACE ON JULY 7TH AND AUGUST 3RD, UH, WITH THE FINAL, UH, PROPOSED BUDGET SCHEDULE TO BE APPROVED PROPERLY, UM, AUGUST 11, NEXT SLIDE.

SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY IN YOUR ATTENTION.

WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE, HEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND YES, WE'LL DEFINITELY ASK QUESTIONS.

I ALSO WOULD JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE SURE TO HAVE NOTED THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE DUE APRIL 9TH, WHICH IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING BEFORE THEN.

OKAY.

SO I'LL JUST GO AROUND AS WE USUALLY DO AND, UM, AND ASK QUESTIONS AND SEE WHO HAS QUESTIONS AND I'LL START WITH YOU BOARD MEMBER DECARLO.

THANK YOU.

UM, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GO OVER THE, THE EXTRA SLIDE ABOUT THE UNMET NEED? YES, SAM, IS THAT AVAILABLE? YES, WE'LL PULL IT UP RIGHT NOW.

AND, UM, LET ME JUST SAY ABOUT OBVIOUS.

THIS IS AN ALL INCLUSIVE LIST.

UM, I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S OTHER, UH, MAINTENANCE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES, UM, OF WHAT, UH, THINGS THAT WE IDENTIFY AND IF YOU NEED DETAILS ON ANY OF THOSE, UM, WE HAVE BACKUP DATA THAT YOU CAN SHARE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, I DID JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, UM, FOR THE SURVEY, THAT SURVEY RESULTS THAT YOU HAD INCLUDED ABOUT RESIDENTS WITH ACCESS.

UM, HOW EXACTLY IS THAT MEASURED? IS THAT DETERMINED BY THOSE, UM, WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF A PARK? YES, THERE'S A HIGH FOR A BOARD MEMBER TO CARLA.

THIS IS HIS ON PIPER, UM, CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER.

SO THAT IS, UH, LET'S SEE THAT MEASURE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS PERCENTAGE OF RESIDENTS WHO HAVE ACCESS TO PARKS AND OPEN SPACE WITHIN ONE QUARTER MILE AND IN THE URBAN CORE AND WITHIN A HALF MILE OUTSIDE THE URBAN CORE.

SO, UM, HOWEVER YOU GET THERE, WHETHER IT'S WALKING OR BICYCLE, IT'S THE PROXIMITY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEN I WAS ALSO INTERESTED, UM, I'M SORRY IF I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY, BUT I'M JUST WANTING MORE, MORE EXPLANATION ABOUT THE NEED FOR THE, UM, UH, INCREASE IN THE IT'S LIKE YOU'RE FROZEN FREE.

NO, YOU ARE.

YOU'RE BACK.

YOU'RE BACK.

OKAY.

UH, LET ME REPEAT THAT IN CASE YOU DIDN'T HEAR IT.

UM, I WAS JUST WANTING A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION ABOUT THE NEED FOR THE INCREASE IN THE CEMETERY OPERATIONS.

YEAH, ANTHONY'S ANTHONY SO THIS IS KIMBERLY NEELY.

UM, I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION PREVIOUSLY AND IN SEVERAL, I WOULD SAY TO BUDGET, I'LL GO RIGHT TO BUDGET ADOPTION PROCESSES AGO.

ONE OF THE DECISIONS THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT MADE IS INSTEAD OF CONTRACTING OUT WITH A ENTITY THAT WOULD DO THE INTERMENTS AND THE BURIALS, THE DEPARTMENT THAT THEY WOULD, WHEN THAT CONTRACT ENDED, THAT THEY WOULD NO LONGER SEEK THOSE SERVICES THROUGH AN RFP, BUT INSTEAD BRING THOSE SERVICES IN HOUSE.

AND SO WHAT IS HAPPENING IS, IS THAT THIS IS THE TRANSITION YEAR WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL STAFFING TO BE ABLE TO, UM, TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM THOSE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN PERFORMED BY A CONTRACTOR.

SO I I'LL ALLOW ANTHONY IF HE'S, IF HE'S

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BEEN ABLE TO, UM, TO MOVE OVER, TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT THAT'S THE BASIC SITUATION.

IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BRAND NEW MONEY.

IT'S A TRANSITION OF CONTRACTUAL DOLLARS INTO ACTUAL PERMANENT POSITIONS TO PERFORM THE SERVICES.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

AS A DIRECTOR OF NEARLY, I SAID BOARD MEMBER, BUT THE TRANSITION IS MOVING OVER AS THE CONTRACT ENDS IN NOVEMBER.

AND SO WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN DEBATE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING OUR STAFF TRAINED BECAUSE IT'S A SEVEN DAY OPERATIONS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED RATHER THAN JUST SIMPLY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

SO IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, UH, FOR BARRIERS MOVING FORWARD.

OH, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, BOARD MEMBER, MASON MURPHY.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

UM, SO I WAS LOOKING AT THE, UM, SD 23 GOALS IN PICTURES.

THAT'S WHY IS THAT REALLY? IS THAT THE BASIS FOR WHAT ARD TRACKS IS THAT REALLY LIKE? IS THAT KIND OF IT IN A NUTSHELL? SO THE, THE, THE FEW, UM, THE GOALS THAT ARE, UM, THAT WERE PRESENTED IN THE PRESENTATION ARE, UH, IS THE BASICS FOR US MAKING OUR DECISIONS.

WE ACTUALLY TRACK SEVERAL OTHER INDICATORS TO, UM, SHOW HOW WE'RE DOING TO MEET THOSE GOALS.

UM, THOSE ARE ALL AVAILABLE PUBLICLY, ACTUALLY ON, UM, OPEN DATA PORTAL.

SO IF YOU'RE EVER INTERESTED IN ANY OF THAT SPECIFIC INFORMATION AND HOW WE'RE TRACKING, UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO SEND THE, UH, HAVE SAMMY SEND YOU THOUGH THE LINK AND IT ACTUALLY HAS A WHOLE STORY ON HOW WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE MEASURING OUR PERFORMANCE.

ACTUALLY, THAT'D BE GREAT FOLLOW UP ON, UM, SOMETHING THAT BOARD MEMBER CARLOS SAID, UH, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ACCESS, EXPANDING ACCESS, UM, WHERE WHERE'S THE DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN URBAN CORE AND NOT URBAN CORE.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT SPECIFICALLY CAN GET MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU THAT THAT'S, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING ONE OF OUR PLANNERS CAN TELL YOU THE EXACT BOUNDARIES AND HOW THAT'S, UM, MEASURED, BUT I CAN, WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU URBAN CORE VERSUS NON ORBIT.

YEAH.

THAT'LL DEFINITELY MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR PRIMARY.

WE'RE USING, IMAGINE AUSTIN AS THAT DEFINITION, WHAT THEY'VE OUTLINED, BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF IT'S BEEN UPDATED AS WELL CURIOUS, BECAUSE, UM, THERE HAS BEEN, UM, OUR COMMUNITY HAS FOUGHT AGAINST SOME DEVELOPMENTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, AND THERE SEEMS TO WORK THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, BEEN A PUSH SOMEWHERE TO REDEFINE OUR ROAD SO THAT WE FALL UNDER DIFFERENT CRITERIA.

AND SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHERE THE LINE IS, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS ONE.

UM, AND THEN ON THAT SAME PAGE RESIDENT SATISFIED HOW MANY PEOPLE DID YOU ACTUALLY SURVEY AND HOW, SO THAT IS ACTUALLY DONE? UM, THAT'S A CITY-WIDE SURVEY.

UM, IT'S THE ETC SURVEY.

THAT'S DONE ANNUALLY, UM, UH, FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, I BELIEVE THEY'RE, THEY TYPICALLY DO MAIL OUT SURVEYS.

UM, PARTICIPATION, VARIES.

UM, UH, WE CAN, THERE'S ACTUALLY A WEBSITE FOR THAT TOO, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO GET ANYTHING DICK, YOU CAN DIG INTO IT AND WE CAN SHOW YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE PARTICIPATE.

I THINK YOU CAN EVEN DRILL DOWN TO WHERE THE PARTICIPATION COMES FROM BY ZIP CODE.

AND SO IT GETS VERY DETAILED.

YES.

YES.

NICE.

WELL, NOT FOR EVERY QUESTION, BUT THERE, THERE ARE DEMOGRAPHICS IN THE REPORT.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL CAUSE I KNOW I'M DEALING WITH THAT IN MY COMMUNITY AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A SURVEY WITH 70 PEOPLE, SO I MEAN, HOW MUCH WEIGHT CAN I REALLY PUT BEHIND A SURVEY WITH 70 PEOPLE? SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST CURIOUS, UH, RESIDENTS, I'M NOT AGAINST THE PRESIDENT'S SUPPORT PART.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHO WAS ASKED AND HOW MANY PEOPLE RESPONDED.

OKAY.

AND THIS, YOU MAY OR MAY NOT REALIZE, UH, OR KNOW THE ANSWER TO OUR BUDGET.

AND WE'RE ASKING FOR IS WHAT WAS IT FOR NEXT YEAR OR IS WE'RE ASKING FOR ONE 14, IS THAT CORRECT? 114 MILLION, YES.

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AND FOR THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL FUND.

SO IN COMPARISON, ROUGHLY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT LIKE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET IS? UM, IF YOU GIVE ME A COUPLE OF MINUTES, I CAN LOOK IT UP ON THE OPEN BUDGET, UH, ATX WEBSITE, WHICH IS ANOTHER GREAT RESOURCE AND IT CAN TELL YOU EVERYBODY'S BUDGET IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

ALL RIGHT.

WATERSHED.

HEY, UM, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW.

OH, ACTUALLY, UM, WE HAVE, UM, MICHAEL BENBOW FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE HAS JOINED US ON THE, UM, ON THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.

SO HE JUST MESSAGED ME THAT IT'S $107 MILLION FOR THE WATERSHED DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, BOARD MEMBER FEST.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CARE A LOT ABOUT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND SEE A LOT OF, UM, IMPACTS IN THE PARKS OR FROM THE CAMPS THAT ARE IN SO MANY OF THE PARKS.

AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, I THINK THAT THERE'S ONE FULL TIME PARTS, A PERSON THAT MAYBE RESPONDS TO CALLS AND TRIES TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES.

AND, UM, AND THEN IT SEEMS LIKE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 22 BUDGET, I DIDN'T, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ADDITIONAL PARK RANGERS WOULD BE SORT OF THE INCREASE IN CAPACITY FOR DEALING WITH THAT.

I WAS WONDERING, UM, LIKE HOW THOSE DUTIES ARE ALLOCATED, IF THAT'S WITHIN THE PARK RANGER SCOPE OR IF, UM, THERE'S OTHER TYPES OF EMPLOYEES THAT COULD HELP TO MANAGE THOSE ISSUES.

YEAH.

SO BOARD MEMBER FAST, KIMBERLY CAN MAKE ME LEAN.

YOU ARE YOU'RE, YOU ARE CORRECT IN THAT.

UM, THEIR REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL RANGER SUPPORTS WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE THERE TO HELP US WITH NOT ONLY INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, BUT ALL OF THE OTHER TYPES OF, UM, CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE SEEING IN OUR PRACTICE SYSTEM, LIKE IN INAPPROPRIATE PARKING, LIKE DOGS OFF LEASH, LIKE ALCOHOL USE, LIKE JUST GENERAL POOR BEHAVIORS.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD SEE THAT ADDITIONAL SUPPORTS.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE ASKED FOR A SPECIFIC AMOUNT AND WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT THAT AMOUNT WILL BE ALLOCATED OR PROVIDED.

UM, BUT WE ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY ROOM FOR EVEN MORE, UM, RIGHT.

THERE'S PROBABLY EVEN EVEN MORE SUPPORTS THAT WE COULD USE, UM, IN, IN THAT, IN THAT WAY.

SO YOU ARE, YOU ARE CORRECT.

THAT'S WHAT THE PARK RANGER, UH, REQUEST IS FOR.

RIGHT.

SO, AND THIS, I WAS KIND OF, SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS, I MEAN THE SIX ADDITIONAL PARK RANGERS, UM, I GUESS THERE'S PROBABLY IS, YOU KNOW, UH, A CASE TO BE MADE FOR MORE.

I WASN'T SURE HOW IT ENDED ON THAT NUMBER.

AND IT ALSO SEEMS LIKE, SO WHAT YOU KIND OF SAID WAS THAT, UM, I THINK ACQUISITION OF LAND THROUGH PARKLAND DEDICATION OR PURCHASED IN FEE IS SORT OF CONSIDERED A BIT, THAT'S CONSIDERED A BASE COST DRIVER.

SO STAFF AND OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FOR THAT KIND OF LAND, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ADD PEOPLE FOR THAT.

UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE INCREASED IMPACT TOO, JUST FROM A GROWING POPULATION TO EXISTING A BRIDGE, MAYBE THAT, HOW DOES THAT GET COUNTED? IS THAT A BASE COST DRIVER? DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO GO? YEAH.

SO AS I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED A BASE COST DRIVER, BUT SINCE WE DO HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE, AND I DON'T MEAN TO PUT MY GOAL ON THE SPOT, BUT HE MIGHT BE BETTER AT PROVIDING THE DEFINITION OR THE EXPLANATION THAN, THAN I WOULD, OR THAT OUR TEAM WOULD.

SO I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MICHAEL IN, IN TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT SITUATION.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT MAINTAINING EXISTING LEVELS OF SERVICE.

SO ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL, LIKE A NEW RECREATION CENTER AND THE MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THE STAFFING COSTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO UNLESS IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, IT WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED A BASE COST DRIVERS.

SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS CHOOSING TO ADD ON THEIR OWN, UM, OR THAT THERE IS A BOARD AND COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION THAT HASN'T BEEN PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED BY COUNCIL, IT WOULDN'T QUALIFY AS A BASE COST STRUCTURE.

AND WOULD IT BE AN ADDITIONAL ADD, UM,

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ABOVE AND BEYOND A BASE? AND IF I COULD ADD TO IT, IF I COULD ADD TO WHAT MICHAEL WAS SAYING, WHEN HE SAYS THAT IT HASN'T BEEN PREVIOUS APPROVED, APPROVED BY COUNCIL, IT'S KIND OF AN EXPLICIT APPROVAL, SO IT'S NOT IMPLICIT, RIGHT? IT'S NOT LIKE, WELL, YOU WOULD JUST KIND OF, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, BOARD MEMBER, WHILE YOU WOULD THINK THAT YOU HAVE THIS MUCH MORE SPACE TO COVER.

SO THAT WOULD MEAN YOU NEED THIS MANY MORE KINDS OF PERSONNEL.

IT'S AN EXPLICIT APPROVAL, NOT KIND OF A, NOT AN INTEREST IF THAT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

UM, I ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT IN THE UNMET NEEDS SLIDE, UM, IN REGARD TO SECURITY SERVICES, UM, I THINK, WELL, YOU SAID AT BARTON SPRINGS POOL, I THOUGHT IT SAID AT OTHER POOLS AS WELL.

UM, AND THEN DEPARTMENT WIDE SECURITY SUPPORT, IS THAT KIND OF TALKING ABOUT, UM, LIKE AFTER HOURS SECURITY MONITORING OR WHAT IS THAT GETTING AT? WE TALK ABOUT SECURITY.

WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF SAFETY PROTOCOLS IN PLACE TO HELP KEEP OUR, OUR, OUR APARTMENT POLICE SAFE AND HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MITIGATING RISK THROUGHOUT THE PARK SYSTEM.

BUT WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS A LACK OF SECURITY CAMERAS OR SECURITY MEASURES, OR SOMEBODY TO PHYSICALLY GO AND LOOK AT A SPACE AND SAY, HMM, FROM A SECURITY ASPECT, THESE ARE SORT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO PUT IN PLACE OR THINGS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO ELIMINATE SO THAT AFTER HOURS YOU CAN DETER THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR, OR YOU CAN DETER THESE SORTS OF, UM, THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY IN THE PARK SPACE.

UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE DIFFERENTIATING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EMPLOYEE AND PATRONS SAFETY AND THEN THE ACTUAL SECURITY ASPECT OF THAT.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, REALLOCATE FUNDING WITHIN OUR TEMPORARY BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMEBODY HELP US WITH THAT AT LEAST ON A PART-TIME BASIS.

UM, SO WE CAN GET STARTED DOWN THAT PATH AND THEN WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE RESULTS OF THAT SITUATION IS.

WHAT, WHAT DOES THE SECURITY INDIVIDUAL UNCOVER FOR US? SO THEN WE CAN DETERMINE IN THE FUTURE, MORE FUNDS ARE NEEDED, OR IF EVEN JUST A PART-TIME PERSON IS ABLE TO COVER OUR SECURITY NEEDS.

OKAY, WELL, I COULD ASK A LOT MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO GIVE ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS A CHANCE TO, AND SO I'LL JUST SAY, UM, THANK YOU FOR GIVING THE PRESENTATION.

I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THE BUDGET REQUEST.

I THINK PROBABLY THE, UM, REQUEST FOR STAFF FOR PARK RANGERS COULD BE, UM, EVEN GREATER.

I MEAN, YOU'RE STILL AT ONE PARK RANGER PER 500 ACRES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT AN INCREASE IN THAT AND THE, UM, UNMET NEEDS.

I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, MENTION THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, JUST BECAUSE OF CIRCUMSTANCES, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HAVE ANY OF OUR NEW FINANCIAL COMMITTEE MEETINGS TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET BEFORE TONIGHT.

SO TO THE FULL BOARD, THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION THAT I DO APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE, UM, PARKS DEPARTMENT STAFF TRYING REALLY HARD TO HAVE HAD THAT MEETING HAPPEN AND BEING AVAILABLE FOR A LOT OF PLANNING.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT WAS JUST THE CIRCUMSTANCES DIDN'T WORK OUT.

SO THANK YOU.

YOU NO, ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE THE HOPE THAT WE WOULD HAVE ONCE THAT FINANCE, THAT INITIAL COMMITTEE GETS OFF RULING THAT THEY'D BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THIS.

AND BY THE TIME WE GOT TO THIS PLACE NEXT YEAR, THEY'LL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE, UM, WHICH WILL MAKE EVERYTHING A LITTLE BIT EASIER, A LITTLE BIT MORE SEAMLESS.

SO THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO LET'S SEE BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, I'M SO HAPPY THAT WE HAVE UNMET NEEDS.

NOW.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN REQUESTED SINCE I THINK SINCE 2016 AND WE HAD THE DIRECTION AT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT YOU DID NOT GIVE UNMET NEEDS TO YOUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

SO I AM THRILLED THAT IT'S THERE.

UM, JUST SO THAT HELPS US DO THAT ADVOCACY.

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER, FOUSE RELATING TO THE NEED TO INCREASE PARK RANGERS.

IF I WERE SEEING ISSUES OVER ALL OUR PARTS, WE HAVE A, AND WE RECEIVED THE MEMO FROM THE DIRECTOR RELATING TO CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE BEEN FACING WITH BEHAVIORS IN OUR PARKS.

AND WE KNOW SPRINGTIME AND EARLY SUMMER THAT GETS AGGREGATED, AGGREGATE AGGRAVATED.

AND NOW RIGHT NOW, GIVEN WHERE WE'RE COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC, UM, IN THIS CRITICAL CONDITION, I THINK WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE THOSE ISSUES.

SO I WOULD SUPPORT EMOTION EVEN TONIGHT TO COME UP WITH STANDARDS THAT REFLECT, UH, SOME ELEMENTS AND WE CAN WORK ON, WE

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CAN WORK ON THAT.

HAVING ALSO DISCUSSED THE PROCESS OR HAVING LOOKED AT THE PROCESS, LAID OUT IN THE PRESENTATION, WHICH I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD AND COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATIONS COMING ON APRIL 9TH.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM FOR US PERSONALLY, STILL ME.

THAT'S A GREAT NEXT STEPS, BUT I MEAN, I, I'M NOT GOING TO PENALIZE OUR CAPABILITY OR OUR ABILITY TO MAKE, TO JUST SERVE IN OUR ADVISOR ROLE, TO NOT COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PRESENT NEXT MONTH.

UM, AND WE IN THAT STILL CAN GO PART OF THE DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET SUBMISSION AS OF MAY 7TH.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE US TO LOOK AT THAT, AND MAYBE IT IS COMING FROM, UH, THE NEW COMMITTEE THAT WE MEET AND WE, WE SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THE UNMET NEEDS AND THEN ALSO ADDRESS, UH, THE PARK RANGERS AND TAKE A LOOK AT ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE TIME TO DO IN THAT LIMITED MEETING.

SO THAT THAT'S OVERALL, I DO WANT TO ALSO ADDRESS HOW HAPPY I AM TO SOME DEGREE WHERE WE FAR WE'RE STILL FAR BEHIND ON WHERE THE SPENDING SHOULD BE.

I'VE DONE THAT ANALYSIS IN THE PAST AND HAD DONE THE PRESENTATION.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST 10 YEARS AGO, WE WERE AT 55.7 MILLION WAS OUR BUDGET.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS HE RECALLED.

AND SO YOU SEE THIS WITH OUR 2021, WE'RE AT 109.7.

SO THAT HAS BEEN PROGRESS.

AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT FOLKS ON THE ADVOCACY SIDE TO THANK FOR THAT ONE GRACE, THAT GREAT AUSTIN PARKS GROUP THAT WAS FORMED IN 2013, GOT IT UP TO 64.5 MILLION AND ULTIMATELY LOOKED TO 71.

AND THEN YOU HAVE, OF COURSE THE WORK THAT THE PARKS FOUNDATION IS DOING, UM, AND THEN JUST ALL THE VARIOUS COMMUNITY ADVOCATES WHO LOVE OUR PARKS AND REALIZE THAT OVER THE YEARS, WE CONTINUE TO LOVE OUR PARKS TO DEATH.

AND ALTHOUGH WE MAKE THESE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS, IT'S STILL NOT, IT'S NOT TO THE, TO THE SIDE STANDARD IN WHICH WE HOLD OURSELVES IN AUSTIN AT.

SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT WORK.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND THAT'S BE QUIET FROM THERE, BUT I LOVED EVERYBODY'S INPUT.

AND, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO STAFF.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD IS AWARE THAT WE DO.

WE STILL, THERE IS NO REAL UNMET NEED ACCESS, RIGHT? SO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE WRONG IMPRESSION THAT BECAUSE WE CALLED THEM ON THAT SOME PROCESS BY WHICH WE CAN REQUEST THOSE AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, THE DIRECTION THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE AND FROM THE CITY MANAGER MANAGEMENT OFFICE, BECAUSE OF VARIOUS CONSTRAINTS WITH THE TAX CAP IN COVID.

AND THAT IS THAT WE NEED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESOLVE ISSUES WITHIN THE BUDGETS THAT WE HAVE.

HOWEVER, I KNOW VERY WELL THAT THIS, THIS PARTICULAR BOARD HAS REQUESTED INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT, THAT ARE CHALLENGES FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE INCLUDED IT, BUT I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT OUR UNMET NEEDS IN SOMEWHERE.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY CLARIFICATION I WANTED TO PROVIDE.

SO DIRECTOR MCNEELY, THAT IS FAIR.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT CLARIFICATION.

AND I STILL MORE IMPORTANTLY APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO GIVE US INFORMATION THAT ALLOWS US TO ADVISE AND WHETHER WE GET, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AT IS ANOTHER STORY.

BUT THIS GOES BACK TO OUR OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND THEN ABSOLUTE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATE OF TEXAS THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATIONS REQUEST PROCESS, THEY IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE UNMET NEEDS ARE.

AND SO LEGISLATORS ARE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND, AND SEE, WHAT IS THIS CRITICAL? DOES THIS DO SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE? I MEAN, ARE WE, THEY MAKE THE, THEY MAKE THAT DETERMINATION VERSUS NOT HAVING THE INFORMATION AND NOT KNOWING THAT COULD THEY HAVE PRESENTED PRE PREVENTED AN ADDITIONAL COST DOWN THE ROAD? UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, TRANSMISSION ISSUES WITH ELECTRICITY.

SO APPRECIATE IT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, VICE CHAIR FIRST.

THANKS.

THINK THAT Y'ALL ASKED A LOT OF REALLY GREAT QUESTIONS AND I, I DON'T HAVE ANY EXTRA.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, BOARD MEMBER, UM, CUTTING CYCLE.

HI.

I HAVE JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

AND I KNOW THAT, UM, BOND MONEY IS A SEPARATE BUDGET THAN ANNUAL OPERATING COSTS, BUT I NOTICED THAT YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING, I JOTTED DOWN A NOTE TO MYSELF IN THE 1.2 MILLION FOR OPS AND MAINTENANCE.

YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE POOLS AND SOME OF THE BONDS.

AND I WAS CURIOUS IF YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT.

HELLO, I

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GUESS I RE-DID THE NORTA TOO, TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE I'M NOT, I'M NOT A HUNDRED.

I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY WHAT WAS SAID, SO I'M SORRY.

CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR JOTTED DOWN? THERE WAS A CHART, THERE WAS A LITTLE CHART THAT YOU SHOWED AND IT HAD 1.2 MILLION FOR OPS AND MAINTENANCE.

AND WHEN YOU WERE DESCRIBING IT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID WAS SOME OF THE MONIES FROM BONDS.

AND SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UH, DID I MISS HERE SOMETHING? YES.

UM, I DIDN'T MENTION BOSS, BUT I CAN REPEAT WHAT THAT 1.2 MILLION IS FOR.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WHAT SHE WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN BOARD MEMBER IS THAT BASED UPON BOND MONEY THAT HAD BEEN SPENT TO EITHER REDEVELOP A SPACE OR TO, UM, BUILD SOMETHING BRAND NEW, 1.2 MILLION OF THAT 1.2 ADDITIONAL DOLLARS COULD BE REQUESTED BECAUSE THERE WAS GOING TO BE NEW MAINTENANCE OR NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MAINTAINED OR OPERATED.

AND SO I THINK THE REFERENCE TO BOND WAS THERE WERE, THERE WERE BOND MONIES OR TLD MONIES, OR SOME SORT OF IS INVESTED IN A SPACE, WHICH THEN REQUIRES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

HOW, HOW DO WE, ARE WE GOING TO GET A PRESENTATION AT SOME POINT? I FEEL LIKE I, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE BOND MONEY AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE, IN THE SPENDING OF THAT.

WE'LL MAKE A NOTE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE A PRESENTATION RELATED TO THAT AS ONE OF THE THINGS FROM BOARD MEMBERS AT THE END OF THAT AT THE END OF OUR AGENDA.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IT WAS VERY INFORMATIONAL TODAY.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU BROUGHT, UM, FROM THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT THAT MS. RICHARDSON AND MS. PIPER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER RINALDI.

NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

WELL, I DID.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

IT WAS VERY GOOD.

IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.

I DID HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS MYSELF, AND THAT IS C ONE WAS ON THE REVENUES FOR 2020 2021, 2022.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE 2020 WAS OBVIOUSLY A PRETTY ROUGH YEAR AND WE, AND SO, BUT WE EXPECT EVEN LESS THAN 2021.

AND I WAS, IS THAT BECAUSE THE PROJECTIONS THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO, TO BE CLOSED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, OR WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING FROM 10.8 TO 4.2 MILLION.

SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

OH YEAH, NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO INPUT THAT THE IN TERMS OF PROJECTIONS DIRECTION IS GIVEN FOR US TO ASSUME THAT CURRENT OPERATIONS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE, UM, FOR THE, AND THEN WE'LL REVISIT, UM, PROBABLY AFTER MARCH, WHICH MARKED THE HALFWAY POINT.

AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT WE, WHERE WE ARE, WHETHER IT BE BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC OPERATIONAL LEVELS, AND THEN WE'LL RECALCULATE THOSE PERCENTAGES.

SO I'LL HOPE IT IS THAT YES, WE'LL COME IN BOARD THEN THE 4.2, BUT WE WANT TO BE CONSERVATIVE RIGHT NOW AND OUR PROJECTIONS.

I SEE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THEN FOR THAT 2.5 MILLION, YOU HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN FOR PARK RANGERS, CEMETERIES AND OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

DO YOU HAVE LIKE A LIGHT ON THEM OF HOW MUCH FOR EACH ONE? YES.

UM, THEY CAN PUT YOU LIKE THAT AFTER THE FACT, I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT WAS, THAT WAS BROKEN DOWN BECAUSE I KNOW WE STILL HAVE A PRETTY TREMENDOUS OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE DEFICIT.

RIGHT.

AS FAR AS FUNDING, KEEP THAT GOING.

OKAY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

YOU BROKE UP A LITTLE BIT.

I'M SORRY.

I'M JUST KIDDING.

AND WHAT IS, I MEAN, WHAT IF WE, IF IT WAS LIKE A PERFECT WORLD HEALTH AND WE COULD HAVE ALL THE MONEY THAT WE WANTED, WHICH WE KNOW IS NEVER GOOD, BUT HOW MUCH COULD WE SPEND ON OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE AND BE IN A REALLY GOOD PLACE THAT WE ARE NOT SPENDING NOW? I THINK WE'D HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT ADDITION.

WE'D HAVE TO PROBABLY DO SOME ADDITIONAL NUMBERS, RIGHT.

BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD DETERMINE IF WE WANTED TO KEEP EVERY PARK AT.

SO WE HAVE PARK LEVELS, RIGHT? LIKE ONE THROUGH FOUR.

AND IF WE WANTED TO KEEP ALL OF OUR PARK LEVELS AT LEVEL ONE, WHICH WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM MAINTENANCE, THAT WOULD BE A PARTICULAR COST, OR IF WE WANTED TO DESIGNATE CERTAIN SPACES, THAT WOULDN'T BE LEVEL ONE.

SO I THINK THAT WE, I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO RUN THE NUMBERS FOR THE BOARD MEMBER.

IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS IT SOUNDS LIKE.

I KNOW IT'S COMPLICATED.

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I JUST WANTED TO, IF YOU HAD, IF YOU HAD A RANGE.

SO I TOTALLY, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED, I DO HAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE, UM, SOCORE VERSUS OUTSIDE THE PORT.

OKAY.

AND MY, MY LAST QUESTION IS WITH THESE, UM, UNMET NEEDS, ARE THESE ALL, ARE THEY, ARE THERE ANY PRIORITIES OR IS THIS JUST PRETTY MUCH WE NEED THESE, THAT'S IT, UM, AT THIS POINT WE, DIDN'T NOT, UH, PRIORITIZE, PRIORITIZE THIS PARTICULAR LOOSE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, UH, THAT'S ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES IS THAT WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE, UM, DIVISION.

SO EVERYBODY'S PRIORITY IS THEIR PRIORITY.

SO, UM, IF WE ARE, UH, IF WE'RE ALIGNING OURSELVES WITH COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES AND, UM, THINGS THAT IMPACT OUR, OUR, OUR HOMELESS NATURE OR HOMELESS NEIGHBORS ON THOSE ARE DEFINITELY THINGS THAT WOULD ALIGN WITH WHAT COUNCIL IS, UM, PRIORITIZING RIGHT NOW.

SURE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I, THAT I HAVE.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THEY WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WITH? TELL ME THAT I'LL TRY TO ANSWER AS MANY AS I'M GLAD IT HAPPENS TO OTHER PEOPLE TOO.

THAT'S EASILY MINE.

SO, SO, SO, SO BOARD MEMBERS, JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE URBAN CORE VERSUS OUTSIDE THE URBAN FLOOR RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT IT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY DEFINED IS THAT IT IS BASICALLY BEN WHITE ON U S ONE 83 ON THE NORTH AND EAST.

SO AS ONE 83 GOES UP EAST AND THEN CURVES AROUND NORTH AND THEN ALONG THE COLORADO RIVER ON THE WEST SIDE, UM, THAT'S WHAT ANYTHING IN BETWEEN THERE IS THE URBAN CORE.

AND THEN OUTSIDE OF THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED OUTSIDE OF THE URBAN FOREST.

UH, RICARDO HAS TOLD US THAT HE CAN GET A MAP FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SEND OUT AND WE COULD SEND IT TO ALL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, BUT THAT'S THE VERBALLY, THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT URBAN FOREST.

WHAT WAS THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY? THE NORTHERN ONE 83.

SO IT'S ONE 83 EAST.

AND AS IT CURVES AROUND TO THE, TO THE NORTH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I DID ONE MORE THING, AND THIS IS SORT OF A PICTURE ABOUT THE BUDGET.

AND, UM, I WAS LOOKING AT THE, UM, PARKS AND RECREATION VISION AND MISSION AND OUR VALUES.

AND IT'S IT.

AND I KNOW THERE'S NO ANSWER AND Y'ALL HAVE YOUR PRINCIPLES FROM THIS LAST YEAR, BUT UNTIL WE FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SLEEPING AND LIVING AND DEPRECATING IN OUR PARKS WITH NO RECOURSE, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

IT'S NOT SAFE.

IT'S NOT, SANITAIRE, IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE.

IT'S NOT BEAUTIFUL.

AND THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO, UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS WHO DO NOT ALLOW CAMPING AND THAT PEOPLE'S THINGS AND MOVE HOME AND THEY JUST HAPPEN.

WE HAVE A LOT IN SOUTH AUSTIN AND SOUTHEAST AUSTIN, AND I KNOW THEY'RE ELSEWHERE.

I RUN BERG IS THAT I KNOW IT'S EVERYWHERE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT SPEAKING.

BUT I THINK UNTIL I FEEL LIKE ALMOST AS PARKS BORE AS PARKS, THAT IT REALLY IS.

IF IT'S FALLING PARTS, JURISDICTION WITH THE PARK RANGERS TO DEAL WITH THIS, THEN IT REALLY IS AN ALL HANDS ON DECK ABOUT SOLVING THESE PROBLEMS. BEFORE WE JUST KEEP, I DON'T KNOW, THERE'S A SAYING LIPSTICK ON A PIG, RIGHT? WE CAN'T KEEP PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG UNTIL WE DEAL WITH THE PIG.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AND HAVE THAT PUT OUT THERE THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALIGNING OUR VISION AND OUR MISSION AND WHO WE ARE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AS WE HAVE.

UM, I FEEL LIKE WE'VE LET THEM THE RESIDENTS DOWN.

YEAH.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT, THAT THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

UM, I THINK THAT THE BIGGEST THAT THE PARKS SYSTEM HAS WITH THEM, WITH HELPING INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING CAMPUS VACATE THEIR SPACE IS THAT I DON'T NONE OF MY TEAM AND MYSELF AND NONE OF THE PEOPLE HERE AND TELL THEM WHERE IT IS THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO GO.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR EXPERIENCES AS THE MIGRATION OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS RETURNING TO THE SPACE WHERE THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE AND WHERE THEY FEEL AS THOUGH THEY CAN GET SUPPORT.

SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OR WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO, WE'LL TAKE NOTE OF THAT AND CONTINUE TO DO OUR BEST TO RESOLVE IT.

NO AS PARKS, BOARD MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, WE ALL BRING SOMETHING VERY UNIQUE.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT NECESSARILY OUR SKILL SETS ARE BEST SERVED.

IT'S SOMETIMES IN THIS FORMAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF US THAT HAVE SOMETHING, UM, TO OFFER IDEAS OR, UM, THINGS THAT ARE MAYBE

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INNOVATIVE AND DIFFERENT.

AND, UM, SO I THINK IF WE KEEP THE HOMELESSNESS CONVERSATION AND THE DRUG USE AND THE OTHER UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR KIND OF TOP, AND NOT REALLY, I'M NOT SAYING THAT DOGS OFF LEASH, AREN'T A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY ARE, BUT WE CAN'T GET SWAYED DOGS OFF LEASH BEING A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN THE PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR PARKS.

THAT'S ALL.

AND I'D LIKE TO JUMP IN JUST SAYING THAT WHEN I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE AT THE CLASSIFICATION OF LIKE LIPSTICK ON PIGS AND SOMEBODY PEDS OR SOMETHINGS PIGS, BUT, UM, THERE IS THIS REAL HUMAN AND HOUSING ELEMENT, AND I AM FRUSTRATED AS EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WE DON'T SEE THIS EFFORT TO HOUSE FOLKS TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO GET PEOPLE HOUSED IN A, IN A SAFE WAY, A WAY THAT PROVIDES DIGNITY.

UM, AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU A BOARD MEMBER, MASON, MURPHY, YOUR AREA.

I PARTICULARLY, I WOULD SAY DISTRICT THREE OVERALL, UM, IS HIT EXTRAORDINARILY HARD, PARTICULARLY AROUND BEN WHITE, BUT NOT JUST BEEN WHITE.

UM, THE OTHER THING THOUGH, I'M STILL HAVING, I'M HAVING CHALLENGES FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOUSED, WHO ARE GOING TO THE PARK, WHO ARE TREATING IT, THAT, THAT IT'S, THEY OWN IT, THAT IT'S THEIRS TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT THE DRIVING ON THE POLO FIELDS THIS WEEKEND, WHICH I SHARED WITH THE BOARD CHAIR, YOU HAD MULTIPLE FOLKS JUST DROVE ONTO THE FIELDS, REGARDLESS OF WHEREVER THEY WANTED.

AND THEY WERE HOUSED.

AND THEY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM WERE RELAXING, BUT THEY WEREN'T MEAN THEY WERE RIGHT UP ALONG BARTON SPRINGS ROAD, YOU KNOW, BUT ON THE POLO FIELDS AND THERE'S ABOUT A HALF DOZEN OF THOSE CARS, EXTRA, PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE.

AND THE, THE BEHAVIOR THAT WE'RE GETTING, FOLKS WHO DON'T SEE THE STEWARDSHIP OF OUR PARKS, LIKE IF SOMEBODY IS USING OUR PARK SPACE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE, THEY WANT A SAFE AND OPEN SPACE WHERE THEY FEEL THE EYES ARE ON THEM.

I DON'T WANT, I DON'T LIKE THE, I DON'T LIKE IT SCARING AWAY.

I DON'T LIKE A LOT OF THOSE BAD ELEMENTS THAT WE HAVE SEEN, BUT I'M ALSO REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN THE FOLKS WHO ARE HOUSED, WHO ARE HOUSING, WHO HAVE THAT ENTITLEMENT.

WE NEED AUSTINITES TO BE STEWARDS OF THE PARK.

THIS IS NOT JUST THERE.

THIS IS FUTURE GENERATIONS.

AND WE ALL GOT TO START ACTING LIKE IT.

WELL, I WILL SAY AMEN TO THAT BECAUSE YOU SEE THAT ALL OVER THE PLACE IN IT IS IT IS REALLY FRUSTRATING AND THAT PEOPLE DON'T VALUE AND TREASURE THESE, THESE GREEN SPACES AS THEY SHOULD.

AND, AND THERE IS, UH, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HAVE ANY KIND OF REAL ENFORCEMENT FOR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND WE DON'T HAVE AN ASSIGNED JUDGE AND IT'S, IT IS A HUGE ISSUE.

SO THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID.

SO BECAUSE, AND I, AND I SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT IS OUR MISSION TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THESE, THESE SPACES.

AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THEM AND WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THEM.

SO I'M, I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT.

BUT SO, AND THAT IS SOMETHING I GUESS, THAT, YOU KNOW, AN INCREASE IN PARK RANGERS COULD, COULD HELP WORK AT TRYING TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT.

SO, SO GETTING BACK TO BUDGET AND WHAT HAPPENED, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO, UM, TO MAKE A MOTION OR RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT CHAIR? I, I WOULD REALLY ASK THAT WE JUST MAKE THE RIGHT RECOMMENDATION NEXT MONTH AND HAVE IT COME THROUGH FINANCE COMMITTEE.

AND I KNOW IT'S NOT IN TERMS OF THE SCHEDULE, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT JUST HAPPENS WHEN YOU GOTTA FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S GOTTA FIGURE OUT THE TIMING, HOW THIS WORKS OUT.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND I HAD A FEELING YOU WERE GOING TO SAY THAT AND DOES THAT, UM, AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T, UM, THAT STILL WORKS FOR, UH, DIRECTOR MCNEELY FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AFTER THAT, THAT APRIL.

SURE.

I'LL DO MY BEST.

OBVIOUSLY MICHAEL'S ON THE CALL TODAY OR ON THE MEETING TODAY AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO LET THE BUDGET OFFICE KNOW THAT.

WELL, LET ME FORWARDING THE RECOMMENDATION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BEFORE, BEFORE THIS MAY 7TH, BUT I'M OBVIOUSLY NOT MEETING THE APRIL.

DEFINITELY.

OKAY.

BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WILL BE AN ISSUE YOU THINK? WE, BECAUSE I CERTAINLY, I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE AN ISSUE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IS, IS ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER OPINION ABOUT THAT? OKAY.

SO

[B.2. Discussion and possible action to rescind the recommendation made February 23, 2021 regarding the preferred design scenario for the Dougherty Arts Center Replacement Project. Sponsor(s): Dawn Lewis, Board Chair and Kate Mason-Murphy, Board Member]

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM WAS,

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AND THIS IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RESEND THE RECOMMENDATION MADE FEBRUARY 23RD, 2021 REGARDING THE PREFERRED DESIGN SCENARIO FOR THE TOWER, THE, UH, WITHOUT ANY ARTS CENTER.

SO I THINK, CAN I MAKE A MOTION AND YOU SECOND IT, AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION.

RIGHT.

AND I JUST, BUT LET ME JUST PREFACE IT WITH JUST SAYING, JUST PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT WE, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, WE HAD A LITTLE MORE THAN QUORUM.

WE, I THINK WE HAD MAYBE SEVEN PEOPLE THERE AND, AND THERE WAS JUST SOME CONCERN.

THERE WAS AN, I OVERALL FELT AFTERWARD THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INPUT FROM THE BOARD AND GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE HEARD SINCE THEN, THAT IT WAS TIME TO PROBABLY, UM, LOOK AT IT AGAIN.

I MEAN, I THINK INAPPROPRIATE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF IT COULD HAVE GONE BEFORE THE OTHER COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS BEFORE IT CAME BEFORE.

SO WE COULD HAVE, UM, LISTENED TO WHAT THE INPUT THAT THEY PROVIDED, BUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE SCHEDULING OR WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO, UM, I KNOW THAT WHAT WE CAN DO IS REASSEMBLE, I THINK, AND I, AND SOMEBODY MAY CORRECT ME.

I'M NOT SURE IF, IF YOU DO MOVE TO RESEND SOMETHING AND IT HAS TO BE DONE BY SOMEBODY WHO VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT, WHICH IS WHY BOARD MEMBER BASED AND MURPHY.

AND I WERE THE ONES WHO DO THAT.

I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT I COULD CHECK WITH SAMMY.

NO, GO AHEAD.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, UM, MOVE SO WE CAN OPEN THAT UP TO DISCUSSION THAT WE RESEND THE, UM, MOTION THAT WE MADE LAST TIME SUPPORTING, UM, THE, THE ONE B UH, SITE PLAN.

AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, WE GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS BEFORE, OR DO I NEED TO GET A SECOND AND THEN DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

DO I, CAN I GET YOU TO SECOND A BOARD MEMBER? MASON MURPHY.

OKAY.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS, AND THEN WE CAN DECIDE TO GO BACK WITH ONE B WITH, IF PEOPLE FEEL THE BEST, THE BEST CHOICE THAT'S, BUT WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.

AND AT THIS POINT, AND JUST, EXCUSE ME, CAUSE AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, I AM NOT A MASTER OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

DO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO A BRIEF OR JUST DISCUSS RIGHT HERE? NOT YET.

YOU CAN, BUT AS I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER RESENDING IT, BECAUSE IT SAYS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER RETHINKING IT, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO VOTE.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO DISCUSS IT FIRST, BUT THEN YOU'D HAVE TO VOTE THAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO RESCIND IT AND THEN YOU COULD GO TO NUMBER MAYBE THANK YOU.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS DOING IT RIGHT.

SO I WILL OPEN IT.

AND BOARD MEMBERS, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO RECALL THE DOVE SPRINGS SITUATION, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS, UH, THE TECHNICALITY AND HAS TO DO WITH THE WORD RESCIND VERSUS THE WORD WE CONSIDER.

RIGHT.

AND THEY MEAN TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND SO THIS TIME WE TOOK A LOT OF TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE GOT IT.

RIGHT.

SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, IN CASE YOU WERE LIKE, WELL, HEY, HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN? THAT'S RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO YEAH.

SO YOU CAN, YEAH.

YOU RECONSIDERING THE SAME MEETING, YOU RESEND HIM IN ANOTHER MEETING.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.

THIS WAS, WE HONESTLY, WE MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT LAST TIME.

SO ANYWAYS, MOVING AHEAD, STILL, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION THEN FAST.

UM, I'M IN SUPPORT OF RESENDING THE MOTION, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE OUTCOME, BUT BECAUSE I FELT EXTREMELY RUSHED WHEN WE CONSIDERED THIS THE FIRST TIME, ESPECIALLY COMING OFF OF THE BIG STORM, UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST FELT LIKE I HAD NO PREPARATION AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I EVEN REALIZED HOW RUSHED IT WAS UNTIL LATER, ANYWAYS, SUBSEQUENTLY I'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO DOWN TO THE SITE TWICE AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

AND SO, UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE WERE IN A VERY LOW INFORMATION SITUATION WHEN WE FIRST CONSIDERED THIS.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

WE'RE MEMBERS TO CARLA AND SHE IS FROZEN.

SO THERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

MY INTERNET IS ACTING UP.

UM, AND I KINDA MISSED THE INTRO TO THIS.

UM, I AM IN SUPPORT OF RESCINDING THE, UH, IT'S SILLY IT ZOOM IN INTERNET.

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OKAY.

SO I'VE GOT ONE.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR, UM, ANNA TO COME BACK, I'LL JUST SAY THAT I GOT A LOT OF INPUT AFTER THE MEETING THAT I HAD NOT RECEIVED BEFORE THE MEETING, WE GOT SEVERAL LETTERS, WE GOT INFORMATION.

AND TODAY I, I REALLY WAS INTERESTED AND INTRIGUED BY BILL BUNCHES, MENTION OF THE IDEA THAT WE COULD USE SOME OF THE SCHOOLS.

UM, IN PARTICULAR, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT METS IS A REALLY UNDER NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT PLACE TO CONSIDER PUTTING THE DOUGHERTY ARTS CENTER.

IT'S ALSO, STILL NOT FAR FROM THE LAKE.

AND SO THERE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS AN OUTSTANDING IDEA.

GREAT.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WAS ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT WAS NOT IN ATTENDANCE AT THE LAST MEETING, SO I I'M REALLY JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHY ARE FOLKS WANTING TO RESEND THIS, THIS, UM, WAS THERE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AN UNUSUAL SITUATION.

WAS THERE ANYTHING YOUR REGULAR ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE MADE THIS DECISION OR WE DIDN'T, WE FELT LIKE IT, OR JUST PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FELT LIKE WE NEED MORE TIME TO LEARN ABOUT IT AND I THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO LEARN.

SURE.

OF COURSE.

SO I CAN ADDRESS IT OR BOREDOM OR FALSE.

DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT FIRST? CAUSE YOU BASED WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, THE ANSWER IS I THINK NOBODY, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY ELSE, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE POWER OR WATER FOR MULTIPLE DAYS BEFORE THIS MEETING AND WASN'T ABLE TO PREPARE AND UNDERSTAND IT AND COMMUNICATE.

SO WE REALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST SAT DOWN AND HAD TO LOOK AT THESE DRAWINGS AND IT WASN'T, IT JUST, IT WAS A LOT OF THE INFORMATION WASN'T CLEAR AND IT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE MOVING PARTS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PART OFFICES.

AND I HAD, AND I STILL DON'T FRANKLY, BUT I HAD NO BACKGROUND IN THE CONCEPT OF DEMOLISHING THE PART OFFICES AND IT BEING, UM, AN UNFUNDED THING TO REBUILD IT.

AND SO SOMEHOW WE'RE LIKE DECIDING THAT IN AS PART OF THIS DECISION, WHICH I STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THAT'S ALL PRESENTED TONIGHT, BUT IT WAS, IS A VERY BIG DECISION TO MAKE YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, WITH NO ABILITY TO RESEARCH IT BEFOREHAND.

I MEAN, YOU COULDN'T, I WAS BOILING WATER AND TAKING CARE OF MY PARENTS.

SO THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE IN MORE LIKE A LOT OF US WERE IN KIND OF HELPING OTHERS MODE.

SO IT WAS JUST NOT, UM, THERE WAS JUST NO ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS, YOU, MY OPINION.

RIGHT.

AND THAT, AND SHE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT WE, IT WAS A LOW INFORMATION SITUATION AND WE DID LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION.

AND I THINK THAT WE, UM, YOU KNOW, I FELT, AND I DID MENTION THIS IN THE MEETING SEVERAL TIMES THAT I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I HAD ENOUGH INFORMATION AND PROBABLY IT'S PROBABLY THE WAY I SHOULD HAVE STUCK WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S, I S YOU KNOW, IT'S A REALLY, IT'S A BIG DECISION.

THERE'S A LOT TO BE CONSIDERED WITH THIS, AND IT REALLY NEEDS SOME REALLY THOROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, EVALUATION AND FOR PEOPLE TO REALLY PUT A LITTLE MORE, UM, INPUT INTO IT SO THAT SHE'S STILL THERE AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN REASON.

AND THEN ALSO, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT WASN'T A FULL BOARD AND, UM, WE DID GET A LOT OF INFORMATION AFTERWARDS, SO IT'S, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM GOING.

I I'M CERTAINLY NOT ONE OF THESE PEOPLE.

THAT'S LIKE, ONCE I MAKE A DECISION, IT'S GOTTA BE GOTTA CHANGE.

SO, OKAY.

SO GO AHEAD.

UP FOR, UH, I MEAN, VICE CHAIR FARSAD YEAH.

I REALIZED I WAS TELLING ME MY BAD.

UM, I REALIZED, UM, I REALIZED, UM, JUST SO I'M ON THE SAME PAGE.

I'VE ALREADY, WE'RE, WE'RE VOTING TO, WE'RE GOING TO VOTE TO RESCIND.

AND THEN AFTER WE VOTE THERESA AND WE CAN LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND HAVE DISCUSSION OVER THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS KNOW, AND WE CAN VOTE FOR THE SAME ONE IF EVERYBODY'S SO CHOOSE IT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I'VE SEEN A REASON TO OPPOSE I WASN'T THERE, SO I, I MAY JUST HAVE LIKE, ABSTAIN IF WE DON'T NEED THE VOTE, BUT IF WE DO THEM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, BOARD MEMBER, UH, UH, WHERE AM I? WHO? OH, WARMING THE DIPLOMA.

UM, OKAY.

YEAH, I MEAN, I WASN'T THERE, I HEARD THE COMMENTS AND I THINK I'LL JUST SAY THE REST OF THE DISCUSSION FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

SO WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, WE WILL, I WILL

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MOVE THAT.

WE RESEND OUR LAST MOTION SO WE CAN READ REDISCUSS AND DO HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND.

SO ALL IN FAVOR AND IT IS OPPOSED YOU'RE POST FORM PARSA.

YOU'RE ABSTAINING.

OKAY.

CHAIR LEWIS.

CAN I GET YOU TO DO AN ACTUAL, JUST A QUICK NAME COUNT? UM, SO I CAN HAVE THOSE RECORDED PROPERLY.

CAUSE SOMETIMES I CAN'T CATCH THE HANDS.

THAT WAS TRUE.

OKAY.

SO DO YOU WANT THEM TO SAY I THEN, IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO? NO.

JUST WHEN YOU RECOUNT THE VOTE, JUST SAY THE LAST NAMES OF WHO VOTED WHICH WAY.

SO OUR, OUR EYES ARE DECARLO, MASON, MURPHY, COTTON, CYBIL RINALDI, FAUST, AND DEPALMA, AND OUR, UM, INSTITUTION AND MYSELF.

AND THEN OUR EXTENSION IS VICE-CHAIR FOR OUR SON.

GOT IT.

YEP.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

[B.3. Presentation, discussion, and possible action regarding a recommendation to the City Council of the preferred design scenario for the Dougherty Arts Center Replacement Project. (PARD Long Range Plan Strategies – Relief from Urban Life, Urban Public Spaces, Park Access for All; SD23 Outcomes – Health & Environment, Culture & Lifelong Learning) Presenter(s): Kevin Johnson, Project Management Supervisor, Parks and Recreation Department]

I MEAN, ON TO ITEM THREE, THEN PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR DESIGN TO SCENARIO FOR THE VERDE ARTS CENTER REPLACEMENT PROJECTS.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DEJA VU, BUT IS IT, AND DOES IT, DO PEOPLE WANT, WE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US SAW THE FULL PRESENTATION JUST, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SEE THE FULL PRESENTATION FOR SURE AT THIS POINT? OR SHOULD WE JUST DO THE HIGHLIGHT DESIGN AND ENVIRONMENTAL ARTS? YOU'VE DONE THAT.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

WELL, WE'LL JUST PUT IT IN THE HIGHLIGHTS.

SO BOARD MEMBERS, BEFORE WE START BEFORE WE HAVE KEVIN COME ON AND GIVE THE HIGHLIGHTS.

I DO WANT TO JUST ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THAT HAD BEEN TALKED ABOUT, FIRST OF ALL, THE IDEA ABOUT AISD, PLEASE KNOW, IN 2019, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH AISD.

IN FACT, WE TOURED, UM, MORE THAN ONE LOCATION AND IT WAS DETERMINED, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT SORT OF IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE A, AN AISD SPACE DID NOT NECESSARILY MEET THE NEEDS OF THE, OF WHAT AISD WAS LOOKING TO DO.

AND IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

UM, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO ANY MORE, ANY MORE DETAILED THAN THAT, BUT BASICALLY I NEED YOU TO KNOW THAT IT WAS EXPLORED AND IT WAS EXPLORED BECAUSE WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO DO SO BY COUNCIL, BUT IT WAS NOT FRUITFUL IN, IN A, UM, IN A FINAL RECOMMENDATION COMING FORWARD THAT WOULD INCLUDE, UM, ONE OF THE SPACES.

AND ALSO, I WOULD HAVE TO JUST REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU, BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED, RIGHT.

THEY WENT THROUGH AN APPROVAL PROCESS AND APPROVED THAT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION THAT HAS BEEN CHOSEN, BUT THIS IS WHERE THE DOHERTY ART CENTER WOULD GO AFTER MULTIPLE AREAS OF EXPLORATION.

RIGHT? SO THAT HAPPENED IN 2019.

AND WE'RE BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH THESE FOUR OPTIONS, BECAUSE WE WERE ASKED BY CITY COUNCIL TO COME BACK TO A CITY COUNCIL WITH, UM, DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR CONSIDERATION.

AND SO THE REASON WHY THERE'S FOUR OPTIONS ON THE TABLE IS BECAUSE WE WERE ASKED TO DO THAT.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT DECIDED TO BRING FORWARD THE OPTION THAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE BEST.

AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO UNNECESSARILY GET CONSENSUS AND NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO AGREE.

AND SO I CERTAINLY RESPECT THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE WAS WORK DONE PRIOR TO SECONDLY, THAT WE DID COME BACK WITH THOSE FOUR OPTIONS AS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL.

AND THE LAST THING THAT I HOPED THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER IS THAT I, IN THE CONVERSATIONS, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT HERITAGE TREES, ABOUT ENVIRONMENT, ABOUT STORM WATER, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE REALLY IMPORTANT ENVIRONMENTALLY, AND I, AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THIS PARTICULAR SPACE IN THE PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE USING THIS SPACE.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THE DOOR, THE ART CENTER IS THAT IT DOES INDEED SERVE A LOT OF CHILDREN VIA CHILDREN'S PROGRAMMING.

AND PART OF THE CONFIGURATIONS THAT HELPED ARE PART OF THE DISCUSSION AND THE REASON WHY SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS CAME FORWARD AS THEY DO THIS, BECAUSE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT PARTICIPANT DROP-OFF AND PICK-UP MOMS, DADS, GUARDIANS, GRANDMAS, GRANDPAS, WHO ARE SENDING THEIR KIDS TO A PARTICULAR PROGRAM AND THEN PICKING THEM UP.

AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S SOME VERY SPECIFIC, UM, CRITERIA WITH REGARDS TO PARKING THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO MEET.

BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THE PARTICIPANT AND THE AGE OF THE PARTICIPANT AND THE SAFETY OF THE PARTICIPANT GETTING FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

SO I'M NOT TRYING TO PERSUADE YOU.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS ALSO IN YOUR CONVERSATION.

CAUSE I HEARD A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT THE TRAIL AND ITS RELATIONSHIP, BUT I DIDN'T

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HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE USER, RIGHT ABOUT IT BEING USER CENTRIC AND FEELING CENTRIC AND PARTICIPANT CENTRIC.

SO I WILL BE QUIET AND LET KEVIN DO WHATEVER HE NEEDS TO DO TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND.

AND THEN YOU OFTEN MAKE YOUR, UM, MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND THANK YOU FOR, UM, FOR LETTING ME SAY THAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, KEVIN, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR LEWIS AND KIMBERLY FOR THE INTRODUCTION.

THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD TO THAT IS I DID WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT OUR PROJECT IS IN A PRELIMINARY DESIGN PHASE.

SO, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'LL FOLLOW.

THIS IS GOING BACK TO COUNCIL TO SEEK APPROVAL, TO MOVE FORWARD INTO SCHEMATIC DESIGN, AND THAT WOULD KICK OFF, YOU KNOW, AN ENTIRE PROCESS.

THAT'S COMMON ON A LOT OF OUR OTHER PROJECTS TO ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC AGAIN AND GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THIS FACILITY, WHERE WE WOULD ANSWER A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT STILL MIGHT BE OPEN TODAY.

UM, I DID, I DID JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT THERE.

WE'D ALSO OBVIOUSLY FOLLOW THE CITY'S SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS, WHERE WE WILL GET INTO A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT TREE PROTECTION AND, AND STORM WATER QUALITY DESIGN, AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD EARLIER.

UM, I KNOW I SUBMITTED THE PRESENTATION AS BACKUP AND I'M HAPPY TO PULL THAT UP IF IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO WALK THROUGH.

UM, IF YOU ALL JUST WANT TO JUMP IMMEDIATELY TO THE DESIGN OPTIONS, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL, BUT SORRY, COULD YOU JUST GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS? JUST SHOW THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, KEVIN.

SURE.

SO I THINK IF WE START WITH SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT, THEN THAT MIGHT BE THE BEST WAY TO VIEW THEM ALL AT ONE TIME.

SO I, AND AGAIN, I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE HERE, BUT, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT, PLEASE INTERRUPT ME AT ANY POINT.

AND I'LL CLARIFY, THERE ARE TWO SCENARIOS UNDER WHAT WE'RE CALLING OPTION ONE.

THOSE ARE THE SCENARIOS IN WHICH THE EXISTING PART MAIN OFFICE REMAINS ONSITE.

UM, OPTION ONE A IS A SCHEME THAT SORT OF POSITIONS, THE NEW DECK TUCKED MOST CLOSELY TO THE PARD MAIN BUILDING AND THE ZACH SCOTT THEATER COMPLEX.

UM, IT FRONTS ON TUMI ROAD IN A WAY THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE FEASIBILITIES STUDY THAT WE COMPLETED IN 2019.

AND THAT WAS A PART OF THAT GRAPHIC THAT WE TOOK TO COUNCIL WHEN THEY ULTIMATELY APPROVED REDEVELOPMENT ON THAT SITE.

UH, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY ASKED US TO CONSIDER SOME ALTERNATIVES AND THOSE WERE MOSTLY RELATED TO HOW THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING WAS LOCATED ON THE SITE.

AND ALSO HOW CARS WERE ABLE TO ACCESS THE SITE.

OBVIOUSLY ON THIS SLIDE, WE HAVE, UM, SOME OPERATIONAL CRITERIA AND SOME SITE CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE ALSO LISTED AS THINGS THAT HAVE INFLUENCED THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING ACROSS ALL FOUR OF THESE SCHEMES.

UM, SO OPTION ONE B, WHICH IS THE PART PREFERRED SCENARIO THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH IS THE UNIQUE ONE.

IN THAT IT POSITIONS THE BUILDING TO THE WEST OF THE SITE CONSTRAINTS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL UTILITY EASEMENTS THAT RUN KIND OF RIGHT THROUGH THE, THE CENTER OF THIS SITE.

AND SO THERE ARE A FEW GOOD FOOTPRINTS TO LOCATE, UM, UH, BUILDING ON THIS SITE.

AND ONE B IS, IS UNIQUE AND ITS LOCATION.

UM, PART OF THE REASON THAT OUR TEAM FELT LIKE THIS WAS THE STRONGEST SCENARIO, UM, THERE'S PROBABLY A FEW REASONS.

ONE IS THAT IT PROVIDES A SENSE OF CIVIC PRESENCE OF ARRIVAL AND IDENTITY FOR THE DOHERTY ARTS CENTER.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THIS FACILITY AS REPRESENTATIVE OF A CULTURAL DISTRICT THAT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY TO THE LONG CENTER AND THE PALMER AUDITORIUM.

AND SO THIS, UM, BUILDING SIDING IS KIND OF MORE PROMINENT RIGHT AT THE TERMINUS OF THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE RIGHT AWAY, UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ENHANCING THE IDENTITY FOR THE CULTURAL ARTS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UM, SO THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS, ONE WHICH PRESERVED THE MAIN OFFICE.

THEY ALSO EACH ADDRESS THE PARKING AND TRAFFIC SITUATION A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

OPTION ONE A, UM, PROVIDES A PARKING GARAGE UNDERNEATH THE PLAZA BETWEEN THE ZACH SCOTT THEATER AND THE PARK MAIN OFFICE.

UH, THE FOOTPRINT OF THIS GARAGE WOULD BE SLIGHTLY MORE CONSTRAINED THAN THE FOOTPRINT SHOWN IN OPTION ONE B UM, AND ONE IMPACT OF THAT IS TO MEET THE PARKING NEEDS OF THE SITE, WHICH, UM, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT SPEAKS TO THAT THE PARKING SOLUTION AND OPTION ONE A WOULD NEED TO BE A THREE-STORY UNDERGROUND GARAGE, THE PARKING SOLUTION, AND OPTION ONE B WOULD NEED TO BE A TWO-STORY BECAUSE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A LARGER, UM, PARKING PLATE THERE.

SO THERE'S SOME EFFICIENCY GAINED, UM, IN, IN THE PARKING SOLUTION SHOWN ON ONE B IT'S ALSO A SCENARIO THAT MEETS COUNCIL CRITERIA TO PROVIDE, UH, ARRIVAL TO THE SITE FROM BOTH RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

AND TO ME ROAD, UM, WITH AN EFFORT AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, MITIGATING THE TRAFFIC IMPACT BETWEEN THOSE TWO RIGHTS OF WAY.

I'LL TALK A LITTLE MORE QUICKLY ABOUT OPTIONS TWO AND THREE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE FOCUS OF, OF, UM,

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MUCH OF THE CONVERSATION IS ON OPTION ONE, A AND B.

UM, OPTION TWO IS, IS A SCENARIO THAT PRESUMES THAT THE EXISTING PART OF MAINE WOULD BE DEMOLISHED AND REBUILT AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IS AN UNFUNDED COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT, BUT AGAIN, WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT IT TO SEE IF WE WERE ABLE TO KIND OF SHIFT THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT TO THE NORTH, IF THAT CAME INTO PLAY AND WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THAT OPENS UP FOR THE SITE.

SO ESSENTIALLY ONE WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS IS THAT THE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING PART MAIN OFFICE AND THE DOOR OF THE ART CENTER AND KIND OF FLAPPING, UM, MOVING THE PART MAIN TO THE TUMI ROAD FRONTAGE AND THE DIRTY ARTS CENTER UP TOWARDS THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE RIGHT AWAY.

OPTION THREE IS A SIMILAR SCENARIO THERE.

THE DIFFERENCE BEING THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE A NEW PART MAIN OFFICE BUILT ONSITE AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT, BUT IT WOULD, THAT FUNCTION WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE.

UM, AND THEN ONE UNIQUE ASPECT OF THIS IS THAT WE WERE PROPOSING TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC MAIN OFFICE, BUT INCORPORATE THAT AS PART OF THE DOC PROGRAM.

UM, WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TOPIC UP FOR DISCUSSION, UH, FROM A PRESERVATION STANDPOINT, BECAUSE THE EXISTING PART MAIN OFFICE IS ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER.

UM, WE DID PRESENT TO THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION LAST NIGHT, AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW OPTIONS TWO AND THREE WERE, WERE REALLY NOT PREFERRED IN THEIR EYES.

AND, UM, NON-STARTER WAS USED AS A WORD FOR OPTION TWO, ONE IN WHICH PRESUMES THAT THAT BUILDING WOULD BE DEMOLISHED FROM THE SITE ALTOGETHER.

UM, SO WITH THAT, LET ME, LET ME SEE, I CAN PULL UP SOME LARGER GRAPHICS FOR EACH OF THESE OPTIONS, OR MAYBE I'LL LET KIMBERLY JUMPED IN HERE.

YEAH.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT THE REASON WHY THERE'S AN OPTION TO NOT HAVE THE, UM, TO NOT HAVE THE MAIN OFFICE THERE.

CAUSE I KNOW I HEARD A BOARD MEMBER SAY THAT IT WAS CONFUSING AS CAUSE WE WERE DIRECTED TO PROVIDE A SCENARIO THAT LOOKED LIKE THAT.

SO IT WAS NOT OUR INTENTION TO CONFUSE YOU, BUT IT WAS OUR INTENTION TO, UM, TO MEET THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAD BEEN GIVEN IN THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.

SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD.

THANK YOU, KEVIN IS QUICKLY.

IS THERE A SLIDE? OKAY, GREAT.

I'M SORRY, IS THERE A SLIDE THAT HAS THAT COUNCIL? YES.

SLIDE THREE HAS A SUMMARY.

ALTHOUGH I SUBMITTED AS BACKUP AS WELL, THE, THE MINUTES FROM THE COUNCIL MEETING IN MAY OF 2019 AND WE HAVE KIND OF A FULL SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO LOOK AT AT THAT POINT.

I JUST WANTED PEOPLE TO SEE THAT TOO.

YEAH.

AND THIS IS A SUMMARIZED VERSION OF THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVED IN MAY OF 2019.

AND IF EVERYBODY'S UP TO SPEED HERE, MAYBE WE CAN JUMP TO SLIDE NINE AND LOOK AT, UM, OPTIONS, ONE A AND ONE B A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY.

SO AGAIN, AN ENLARGED VERSION OF WHAT HE SAW ALREADY, IT WILL POINT OUT THAT THE COMMON BUILDING COMPONENTS IN ALL OF THESE GAMES ARE THERE, ARE THEY LARGE PROGRAMMATIC ELEMENTS THAT THE DOHERTY ART CENTER THAT INCLUDES THE THEATER PROGRAM, THE SCHOOL PROGRAM, WHICH HAS ALL OF THE YOUTH PROGRAMS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, UM, STUDIOS FOR ADULT PROGRAMS AND THEN THE ARTISTS GALLERY.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS IN THIS BUILDING AS WELL AND CIRCULATION SPACE THAT WOULD BIND IT ALL TOGETHER.

BUT THOSE ARE THE FOUR PROGRAMMATIC THAT ARE KIND OF REPLICATED IN EACH SCHEME.

AND THEY DO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT KIND OF DEFINES WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED ON THE SITE.

THE FEEDER PROGRAM HAS A LOAD-IN AND LOAD-OUT COMPONENT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN.

SO THERE DOES NEED TO BE SOME FORM OF VEHICLE ACCESS THERE.

THE SCHOOL COMPONENT ALSO HAS A PICKUP AND DROP OFF COMPONENT, UM, FOR, FOR ADULTS AND CHILDREN.

SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO LOCATE IN EACH SCHEME.

UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE ARKING SOLUTION IN THIS SCHEME HAS SHOWN IN THE CIVIC PLAZA RIGHT OFF OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE.

UM, ANOTHER DESIGN MOVE THAT OUR TEAM HAS PROPOSED HERE IS TO ACTUALLY VACATE THE PORTION OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE THAT EXTENDS TO THE WEST OF THE PARK MAIN OFFICE IN AN EFFORT TO RETURN THAT TO GREEN SPACE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DESIGN'S FINE OF THIS, UM, SCHEME WOULD BE THIS ARTS PROMINA THAT REALLY CONNECTS THE ZAC PLAZA TO THE DOHERTY ARTS CENTER AND PLAZA.

UM, YOU GET A BETTER SENSE WITH THE IMAGE OF THIS

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SCALE, THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDINGS, UH, THE KLEBERG AND WISDOM HUNT BUILDINGS AND THE ZACK COMPLEX WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS SCHEME THAT DOES INTRODUCE SOME COMPLEXITY, UH, FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT.

AND, UM, JUST THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LEASE FOR THE ZACK THEATER THAT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE CONSTRAINTS.

AND, UM, THIS SCHEME DOES ENCROACH ON A FEW AREAS AND INTO THAT LEASE, UM, WE HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH ZACK THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS AND ANTICIPATE THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO BE COGNIZANT NEIGHBORS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THESE TWO FACILITIES IS, IS ONE THAT WORKS WELL FOR BOTH PARTIES.

AND LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

WE CAN LOOK AT OPTION ONE B AND AT THAT POINT, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO JUMP IN, I'M SORRY TO JUMP IN HERE.

COULD YOU REMIND US UP IN THE BOTTOM CORNER, WHICH USED TO BE THE SCHLOTZKY'S? UM, CAN YOU TELL US AGAIN WHAT WAS GOING IN THAT CORNER? YEAH, SO THERE WAS JUST A PUD APPROVED FOR, UM, A SEVEN STORY OFFICE BUILDING TO BE BUILT AT THAT SITE.

AND, UM, I DON'T HAVE DETAILS ON THE TIMELINE FOR CONSTRUCTION, BUT OUR TEAM DID COORDINATE WITH THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT.

UM, WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE A USE AGREEMENT FOR 30, UM, FULL-TIME SPACES FOR DAC AND PARD STAFF IN THEIR PARKING GARAGE AND THEN 50, UM, VISITORS SPACES THAT WILL BE OFFERED AT A DISCOUNTED, UM, VALIDATION ON A DAILY BASIS.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A, UM, PARKING ARRANGEMENT THAT WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, LESSEN THE IMPACTS OF THE, OR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ART NEEDS TO PROVIDE AT THE DOOR TO THE ARTS CENTER UNDER THIS PROJECT.

AND WE CAN JUMP FORWARD ONE MORE SLIDE TO SLIDE ONE BEING OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND WE'RE GETTING JUST A LARGER VIEW OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN HERE.

THERE ARE SOME SIMILAR DESIGN CONCEPTS AND THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE SURFACE PARKING ACROSS ALL OF THESE SCHEMES WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO AND PROVIDE THAT UNDERGROUND TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE ACROSS THE SITE.

SO WHILE THESE CIVIC PLAZA BETWEEN THE ZACK AND THE PARK MAIN OFFICE IS NOT SHOWN TO BE AN UNDERGROUND GARAGE HERE, WE ARE TRYING TO RETURN THAT TO A GREEN SPACE.

THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, MORE WELCOMING PLAZA TO THE ARTS COMPLEX.

UM, AND THEN YOU DO GET THIS SENSE OF ARRIVAL ALONGSIDE THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE SPINE THAT LEADS YOU TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROMINENT SITING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HERE, UH, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE THAT MEETS THE, UM, PICKUP AND DROP-OFF COMPONENTS OF THE YOUTH PROGRAM HERE COULD REALLY BE CELEBRATED AS A LOCATION FOR PUBLIC ART AND ALSO A WATER QUALITY ELEMENT THAT COULD BE TIED TO THE SUSTAINABILITY SUSTAINABILITY GOALS FOR THIS PROJECT.

EXCUSE ME.

UM, AND AGAIN, YOU'RE SEEING THAT THERE'S ACCESS TO THE UNDERGROUND GARAGE FROM BOTH RIVERSIDE AND TUMI ROAD IN THIS SCHEME, ALTHOUGH WE ARE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE VEHICLE ACCESS FROM RIVERSIDE IN THIS CASE TO MITIGATE THE SMALLER RIGHT OF WAY.

UM, THAT IS THAT'S TO ME ROAD, WE WERE ASKED TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF ANY IMPACTS THAT WE MIGHT BE INTRODUCING ALONG THAT RIGHT OF WAY.

SO, UH, THE BUILDING COMPONENTS TAKE ON A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION HERE, BUT THE PROGRAM ELEMENTS ARE ALL THE SAME.

UM, ONE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS IS THERE IS AN EXISTING GRAVEL ROAD THAT RUNS BEHIND THE, UH, LITTLE LEAGUE BALL FIELDS.

UM, THAT'S USED FOR ACCESS NOW, AND WE'RE KIND OF PICKING UP THAT, THAT POINT TO PROVIDE A SERVICE AREA TO THEATER, UM, AS IT WORKS OUT IN THIS CONFIGURATION.

SO THERE WOULD BE ACCESS TO THE BACK OF THE FACILITY AND WHAT IS MORE OF A, A PRIVATE COURTYARD SPACE, BUT ALSO A FUNCTIONAL LOAD IN LOAD OUT FOR THE THEATER AREAS UNDER THIS SCHEME, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, OR I CAN TALK THROUGH OPTIONS TWO AND THREE AS WELL.

IF THERE WERE QUESTIONS OR INTEREST IN THOSE, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UM, ABOUT OPTION ONE B.

OKAY.

UM, SO I NOTICED ON CAN, I'M SORRY, CAN I ASK A PROCEDURAL POINT QUICKLY? EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY, CHAIR LEWIS.

I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE PROCEDURE IS WE'RE GOING TO USE HERE.

CAUSE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LAST WEEK YOU WENT AROUND ON CALL AND CALLED ON EACH PERSON TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO JUST JUMP IN OR LIKE, WELL SURE.

I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, RIGHT.

SO WOULD I, BECAUSE HE, I THINK THIS IS WHY I DO THAT BECAUSE ON ZOOM, IT REALLY DOES GET WHEN PEOPLE JUMP IN AND

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IT'S EASIER WHEN WE'RE IN PERSON TO KIND OF HAVE A NATURAL FULLY CONVERSATION, IT DOESN'T WORK SO WELL ON ZOOM BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE INTERRUPTING.

SO I, I DO LIKE IT BETTER WHEN IT'S PERSON TO PERSON AND INFORMATIVE OR NOT, BUT YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE QUESTIONS.

THAT'S FINE.

BUT NOW THAT I'D LIKE TO DO IT THAT WAY.

OKAY.

SURE.

SO, UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD ABOUT OPTION ONE B WAS IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS, UM, SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE OR SOME SORT OF COST SAVINGS THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT KIND OF PARKING ARRANGEMENT, BECAUSE IT WAS DECOUPLED FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE REST OF THE FACILITY.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO LEARN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, UM, HOW MUCH WILL THIS SAVE US MONEY AND RESOURCES.

UM, WHAT KIND OF, DOES THAT HAVE IMPACTS OR SAVE US RESOURCES THAT WE CAN EXPAND ELSEWHERE ON THIS PROJECT AND GET SOMETHING BETTER OUT OF ANOTHER PART OF THE SITE? YES, CORRECT.

AND WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO QUANTIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT AT THE PLANNING PHASE THAT WE'RE AT.

IT'S HARD TO PUT HARD NUMBERS TO THESE THINGS, BUT I CAN SPEAK JUST KIND OF CONCEPTUALLY ABOUT IT.

THE FACT THAT YOU, THE CONTRACTOR WOULD BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THE FACILITY AND THE PARKING SOLUTION AT THE SAME TIME WOULD BE A NATURAL BENEFIT TO THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE.

AND ANYTIME YOU CAN LIMIT THE DURATION OF A PROJECT THAT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON COSTS, SO THERE WOULD BE SOME SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

AND THEN ALSO, LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE, JUST THE AVAILABLE SIZE OF THE FOOTPRINT FOR THE GARAGE IN OPTION ONE BIGGIE, UM, PROVIDES MORE ECONOMY OF SCALE BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, UM, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, JUST ON TWO PLATES, AS OPPOSED TO THREE.

UM, THERE ARE ALSO FEWER UTILITY CONFLICTS IN THAT AREA.

SO IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S HARD TO PUT A NUMBER TO NOW, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR TEAM TO DO THAT AT THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WE'VE COMPLETED, BUT JUST CONCEPTUALLY, THOSE ARE TWO ADVANTAGES TO OPTION ONE B.

SURE.

I THINK YOU HAD A QUESTION, RIGHT? YES.

WHAT I'M WONDERING IS HOW CLOSE IN THE OPTION ONE B WHAT IS THE ACTUAL DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TRAIL AND WHERE THE BUILDING WOULD BE? I AM SORRY TO SAY, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DISTANCE THAT I CAN GIVE YOU, BUT I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH MY DESIGN TEAM AND I CAN PROVIDE THAT OFF OF BEAR CAT DRAWINGS.

AND I HAVE A SECOND QUESTION, AND THAT IS, UH, HAVING KIDS WHO PLAYED BASEBALL.

I KNOW THAT NOT ALWAYS THE BALLS GO THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND THE ROAD COMING BACK THAT CLOSE, THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT CLOSE ON HERE, BUT I KNOW HOW CLOSE THAT ROAD IS.

AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT IS AN ISSUE FOR CARS AND TRAVELERS.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

THE SCHEME DOES ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT OF A NATURAL BUFFER THERE.

UM, IT'S ALSO KIND OF THE, THE BACK OF HOUSE AREA.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE LOAD IN AREA TO THE THEATER.

SO IT'S IT, WASN'T A CONCERN FOR OUR, FOR OUR DECK STAFF OR PROJECT TEAM.

YEAH.

AND IF I COULD JUST ADD IN SITUATIONS LIKE THAT, LIKE YOU COULD SEE ARCADES OVER THOSE SO FAR, SOME OTHER LOCATIONS, WE PUT UP NETTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOTTLES ARE ON STATE IN INSTEAD OF OUTSIDE OF THE FIELD.

SO THERE ARE OPTIONS FOR MITIGATING THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND COULD WE GET THE, THE DISTANCE AT SOME POINT BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE TRAILER? YES.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

LET'S SEE A BOARD MEMBER.

UM, MASON MURPHY.

SO, UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO SAY TO A BOARD MEMBER COTTON CYBIL, UM, IT DIDN'T SHOW THE DISTANCE ON THAT TRAIL, BUT THERE IS A 24 FOOT ELEVATION CHANGE FROM THE TRAIL AND THEN A BIG BUFFER OF GREEN AND THEN A NEWLY FORESTED BUFFER BEFORE THAT UTILITY TRIP.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IT IS, BUT IF THERE IS A 24 FOOT ELEVATION.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN MY, IS THAT THE AREA WHERE IT SAYS MAKERS AREA, KEVIN, IS THAT WHERE YOU'RE SAYING THIS, THE LOAD IN LOAD OUT ON THAT LITTLE GRAVEL ROAD THAT WE WERE ON? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND, UM, ONE THING THAT HADN'T BEEN SAID THAT WE DID DISCUSS WHEN WE MET IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS, BECAUSE I AGREE THERE'S NO PERFECT SOLUTION HERE.

UM, BUT OPTION ONE B UM, WE DON'T LOSE ANY HERITAGE TREES AND WE NET AN ADDITIONAL TWO PICTURES OF GREENSPACE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANKS, KEVIN.

THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR FIRST.

SO IS JUST SO I MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE PARKING CAN BE ON TWO PLATES ON, ON ONE B BECAUSE THERE'S MORE SURFACE AREA OR CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND THIS IS ADVANTAGEOUS BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS LIKE ONE CONTRACTOR TO DO BOTH INSTEAD OF HAVING TO HAVE TWO CONTRACTORS.

WELL, THE PROJECT WOULD BE COMPLETED ALL BY ONE CONTRACTOR, BUT THEY COULD BE WORKING ON BOTH AREAS SIMULTANEOUSLY AND ALSO JUST EXCAVATION IS A COSTLY ASPECT OF CONSTRUCTION AND THE LESS AMOUNT OF SOIL YOU NEED TO REMOVE, UM, IS OBVIOUSLY A GOOD THING.

COOL.

THANK YOU.

REMEMBER IT, DIPLOMA? YES.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, GRAB MY NOTES.

OKAY.

SO I GOT A LOT OF APPRECIATIONS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

FIRST ONE TO, TO MR. JOHNSON, AND THAT OUR CONSULTANTS ARE EVERY I IN STUDIO EIGHT.

YOU ALL BEEN WORKING ON SINCE 2017 WHEN YOU ALL WERE ASSIGNED THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.

SO, AND GOING OVER TO BUTLER SHORES, WHEN THIS CAME TO US IN MARCH, 2019, I WASN'T A FAN OF IT GOING OVER TO BUTLER SHORES.

IT'S STILL NOT, BUT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL HAS MADE.

UM, MY OTHER APPRECIATION IS THE DIRECTOR OF MCNEELY WHO BROUGHT UP THE SENSITIVITY OF THE PROGRAMMING SPACE AND THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO THROUGH A DESIGN CHARRETTE WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, SO THOSE WHO ARE USING THAT BUILDING, IT IS WITH THAT INTENT, HOW TO MAXIMIZE THAT PROGRAMMING SPACE.

I WILL PROBABLY NOT BE USING THAT SPACE.

AND SO I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT APPRECIATION, BUT I STILL HAVE IT.

I STILL HAVE A CHALLENGE THERE TOO, AND I'LL GET TO THAT.

BUT I ALSO APPRECIATE DIRECTOR MCNEELY BRINGING UP THE DISCUSSIONS WITH AISD SINCE 2019.

UM, I GOT TO SAY IN BACK IN 2016, 2017, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY STARTED THOSE COMMUNICATIONS, I SERVED ON THE AIC FACILITIES, PLANNING ADVISORY COMMITTEE AT THAT TIME.

AND I REMEMBER BEING IN THAT COMMITTEE MEETING AND SAYING, CALL, YOU KNOW, CALL THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF GREAT SCHOOLS.

HOWEVER, THE REALITY IS ALL THESE SCHOOLS THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THERE WERE PHENOMENAL SCHOOLS, BUT THE DISTRICT IS GOING INTO $61 MILLION DEFICIT.

IF NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHATEVER THEY DO WITH ANY OF THE EXTRA PROPERTIES AS A WAY TO MAKE UP FOR THAT DEFICIT, I WOULD ASSUME NOT THAT I CAN SPEAK FOR THE DISTRICT.

THE OTHER CHALLENGE HERE IS ALL THESE FACILITIES HAD LIKE A 42 TO 75 WAS THE BEST ON WHAT THEY CALL FACILITIES, CONDITION ASSESSMENT.

THAT MEANS THAT THE REPAIR WOULD BE THAT DIFFERENTIATOR.

SO IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE 58% OF THE ORIGINAL COST OF THAT BUILDING TO GET IT UP TO BEING A MODERNIZED SPACE THAT DOESN'T ENCOUNTER THE ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH REDACTED RE REDESIGN THAT SPACE.

WE ONLY HAVE $28 MILLION MAYBE.

I MEAN, WE HAD $25 MILLION FROM THIS BOND.

WE HAD 2 MILLION, I THINK WE ADDED ANOTHER MILLION FROM 2012 THAT WE ARE WELL-DEFINED.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MONEY SPENT RIGHT NOW IN PREDESIGN I'M IMAGINING.

SO THESE ARE CONSIDERATIONS.

ALSO THE PROGRAM SPACE WAS 40,000 IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN 2019.

I THINK THAT'S, WHAT'S BRINGING FORWARD RIGHT NOW.

WE LOOK, IF YOU THINK BACK, UH, WHETHER IT'S ZILKER CAFE OR YOU THINK BANK AT, UM, BUT WE HAD OVER THE DOVE SPRINGS HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER, THOSE WERE BEING BUILT AT A THOUSAND DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT, WHICH MEANS THAT IF WE'RE DESIGNING 40,000 SQUARE FEET, THIS IS A $40 MILLION BUILDING OUTSIDE OF THE PARKING GARAGE, WHICH THE PARKING GARAGE ABSOLUTE SHOULD BE ABILITY WILL HELP RELIEVE.

WE CAN RELIEVE IT ALL, UH, A LONG JOHN BARTON SPRINGS AND THE CONGESTION.

UM, BUT THAT SHOULD BE DONE THROUGH A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IT'S A CONCESSION, THAT'S ALL IT IS.

THEY BUILD IT, THEY RUN IT, WE KEEP IT, WE KEEP THE ASSET.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BIG THEMES.

UM, I DO APPRECIATE IN 2019, HERE'S SOME OF THE INSTRUCTIONS WE GAVE TO STAFF KEEP PARKING AWAY FROM THE LAKE.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS MINIMIZE TRAFFIC OFF TOMI BECAUSE THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD WAS REALLY CONCERNED AND THEY BEING CONCERNED AND THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT WAYS IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.

AND SO, HENCE WE MOVED THAT BUILDING GOT MOVED CLOSER TO THE TRAIL.

I BELIEVE IN THIS DESIGN WAS TO RESULT OF THAT SURFACE.

PARKING IS POOR USE OF PARKLAND.

UH, ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS HAD SAID IN 2019, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE, UH, PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC BEVERLY SHEFFIELD BUILDING WAS A PRIORITY.

SO WE

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HAD THOSE COMPONENTS.

UM, AND I THINK TO BE, UH, I MEAN, WHEN B ADDRESSES A LOT OF IT, BUT I HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH ONE B AND REALLY IT HAS TO DO WITH, AND I CAN APPRECIATE, THEY CAN SAY BASED UPON MY PK, 12 ADVOCACY COMMUNITY WORK, THE CIRCULATING AND CIRCULATORY PATH THAT YOU DO FOR DROP-OFF.

BUT I ALSO KNOW WE'RE NOT A 500 STUDENT SCHOOL WHERE, YOU KNOW, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

I THINK WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE SUCH A ROBUST DROP RIGHT THERE.

I, WHEN I LOOK AT ONE A, I THINK YOU COULDN'T DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU STILL HAVE A CIRCULAR PATH, OR THERE'S SOME SORT OF OTHER CHANGE THAT'S MADE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT MISSION.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU DON'T CREATE A 24 SEVEN SOLUTION FOR A, FOR A PROBLEM THAT ONLY COMES UP A FEW, FEW MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.

SO THAT'S ON THAT STATEMENT.

I DO.

AND IT WAS SO THAT CIRCULAR PATH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS NET GAIN OF TWO ACRES WITH ONE B, LIKE, I'M NOT REALLY SURE IF THAT'S THE CASE AND MR. JOHNS, IF I CAN ASK YOU WHEN WE LOSE THAT SPACE AROUND THE ROUNDABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ACTIVE PARKLAND ANYMORE.

THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO SUCCESSFULLY PROGRAM THAT GREEN SPACE THAT, THAT CIRCULAR PATH FOR DROP-OFF.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ACRES THAT IS? SO IT'S ANOTHER DIAGRAM THAT I'VE ASKED OUR TEAM TO PUT TOGETHER AND I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE BOARD TOMORROW WHEN IT'S DONE.

I HAVE SOME ROUGH CALCULATIONS, UH, IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A SNAPSHOT FROM A SPREADSHEET.

AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED, UM, THAT CIRCLE OR PATH THAT'S, THERE'S THAT MIKE'S A CHALLENGE.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHY I WANT TO HAVE THE DIAGRAMS TO BE REALLY CLEAR HOW WE'RE SHOWING THIS INFORMATION.

BUT, UM, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE EXISTING AMOUNT OF PARKLAND ACROSS THIS ENTIRE SITE, WHICH IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.

SO WE'RE NOT INCLUDING THE, UM, THE SOFTBALL FIELDS IN THAT CALCULATION IS 5.7 ACRES.

UH, THE CALCULATION UNDER OPTION ONE A WOULD BE 9.0 ACRES OF ACCESSIBLE PARKLAND.

AND UNDER ONE B WOULD BE 8.9 ACRES OF ACCESSIBLE PARKLAND.

NOW THAT, THAT INCLUDES THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT FOR THE DOOR TO THE ART CENTER IN EACH OF THOSE SCHEMES, BECAUSE IT'S INTEGRAL TO THE PARK THAT IT SITS IN, BUT THOSE ARE THE ROUGH CALCULATIONS THAT HAVE RIGHT NOW.

I APPRECIATE IT.

SO WHEN WE SEE THIS YEAH, A BIFURCATED SPACE THERE AND WE LOSE THE ACTIVITY OF IT WHEN IT'S NO LONGER IN CONTINUOUS.

SO, AND THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP WITH DESIGN COMMISSION.

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT COMPONENT.

I WOULD RE HONESTLY, I, I, IF IT WERE MY IDEAL SITUATION, IT WOULD BE A COMP IT WOULD BE ONE B, BUT WITH IT MOVED OVER, GOING FURTHER EAST ON THE BUILDING WHERE YOU HAVE MORE.

AND I LOVE HERE'S ONE OF THE THINGS I DO UP TO.

SO THIS CONVERSATION RELATING COMPACT AND CONNECTED AND PEDESTRIAN SPACES TO ACTIVATE THAT'S COMING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDING THE AREA FROM SOME OF THESE PARK BOARD MEMBERS AND SOME OF THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

I LOVE IT.

I LOVE THE DENSITY COMPONENT AND I LOVE THAT'S AN ARGUMENT.

UM, AND SO I, I, I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO HEAR THAT FROM THESE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT SO WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, I DO LIKE THAT, THAT COMPONENT ON ONE, A MOVING OVER TO ONE B UM, IF YOU CAN MAKE IT FIT IN WITH THESE OTHER ELEMENTS, I DO HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE TRAIL.

UM, ORIGINALLY I THOUGHT IT WASN'T GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'VE LOOKED AT IT AND MAGNIFICATION AT A HIGH LEVEL, AND I DO FEEL LIKE IT IS GOING, IT'S NOT GOING TO, IT'S NOT GOING TO ADD TO THE ENJOYMENT OF THE SPACE.

AND, AND TO THAT, UH, UH, MR. JOHNSON, IS THERE THE CAFE ORIGINALLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT 2019, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE THE CAFE TO SERVE THE GALLERY, THE RENTABLE STUDIO SPACE, STRUCTURED PARKING, UM, BUT IS THERE A CAFE IN THIS CURRENT PRELIMINARY DESIGN, THERE IS INTEREST IN HAVING A COFFEE BAR, SORT OF A PORTABLE CAFE.

THAT'S NOT REQUIRING A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN TO OPERATE, AND THEN ALSO TO PROVIDE SPACE FOR VENDORS THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO SERVE, YOU KNOW, THE PARK, BUT NOT TO PROVIDE A DEDICATED SPACE WITHIN THE FACILITY.

UH, IT RAISES A FEW PROGRAMMATIC ISSUES WITH THE DECK.

WELL, SEE, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S A CHALLENGE CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, WHAT W IN 2019 WE HEARD, YES.

STAKEHOLDERS WANTED THAT.

I SAID, I WANTED IT BOARD MEMBER LUKE AT THE TIME WAS LIKE, WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT CONCESSIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, AND WE TALKED ABOUT YES, AS REVENUE STREAMS. AND WE TALKED ABOUT RENTABLE ARTIST SPACE.

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WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE CAFE.

AND I MEAN, I JUST MAKES ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD THAT WE FIND A CONSERVANCY WHO CARES ABOUT TRAILS, WHO WOULD RUN THAT CAFE TO BENEFIT THE TRAIL THAT IT SERVES AND THAT IT WOULD BE FOLK ORIENTED TOWARDS THAT.

SO IT WOULD BE A SOUTH OPTION TO THE NORTH OPTION OF SEA HOME INTAKE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF THIS, SOME REASON, YOU KNOW, GETS PLAYED AROUND WITH MORE AND WE SEE ANOTHER NEW, NEW RENDITION, UM, I, I HOPE THIS GOES BACK INTO CONSIDERATION OF THAT.

AND, UH, AND SO BY, UH, YEAH, UH, BUDDING THE TRAIL, I AM HAVING MORE CONCERNS THAN ORIGINALLY.

I DIDN'T ORIGINALLY, I WAS LIKE, YOU'RE RUNNING, YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAST THE SHADED SPOT DURING THE SUMMER IN JULY, YOU'RE GOING TO BE THANKFUL FOR THE SHADED SPOT THAT THIS THE BUILDING MIGHT PROVIDE.

BUT NOW I, I'M NOT SO SURE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO REALLY PROVIDE, IT'S NOT GOING TO ENHANCE THAT SPACE.

SO THESE ARE ALL THE COMPONENTS.

SO ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THE COMBINATION OF ONE, A ONE B IS REALLY WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

AND I GUESS IF I'M HAVING TO VOTE, I'LL PROBABLY END UP VOTING FOR ONE A, I DO LOVE PARKING GARAGE, THE UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE.

I THINK THIS GOES, SPEAKS TO EXACTLY THE STRUCTURED PARKING EXACTLY TO THE FACT THAT WE WANT THAT PARKING IS POORLY LIKE SURFACE PARKING IS POOR USE OF PARKLAND.

AND I WENT IN JUST SO AS THIS GOES THROUGH COUNCIL, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOKED AS THERE'S, THERE'S AN UNDERGROUND GARAGE AT MILLENNIUM PARK IN CHICAGO, THERE'S AN UNDERGROUND GARAGE AT BOSTON'S COMMON PARK.

IT'S 450 PARKING SPACES ARE UNDERGROUND GARAGE AT OUR LIBRARY ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH HAS ONLY A HUNDRED YARDS FROM LADY BIRD.

AND THAT'S 140 SPACES.

THE SCHLOTZKY'S PAD THAT WE JUST REFERENCED AS A FOUR LEVEL UNDERGROUND GARAGE CITY ADEPT CITY PARK IN DENVER HAS AN UNDERGROUND GARAGE.

SAN DIEGO COUNTY WATER PARK, WATERFRONT PARK HAS A 250 PARKING GARAGE ON AN EIGHT.

THAT WAS A CONVERTED EIGHT ACRE PARKING LOT BECAUSE THEY ALSO BELIEVED THAT THE SURFACE PARKING THAT WAS THERE WOULD BE BETTER IF IT WAS UNDERGROUND.

AND WE HAD USABLE PARK SPACE.

SO AS WE MOVE THROUGH ON THIS PROJECT, AND WE LOOK AT OUR OTHER PARKING CHALLENGES THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN CONSIDERATION WITH THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME TO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION OUT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA.

K A BOARD MEMBER FAUST.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, SO I WANTED TO SEE FIRST THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THIS DECISION AND THE, THE CONSIDERATIONS ARE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW TO USE THIS PARKLAND AND HOW TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF IT FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.

AND, YOU KNOW, FROM MY OWN PERSPECTIVE, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE DOHERTY ARTS CENTER.

I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF FRAMING THAT POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, NOT SUPPORTING THE STAFF OPTION SOMEHOW MAKES YOU NOT IN SUPPORTED THE ARTS CENTER.

AND I JUST WAS VERY HURT BY THAT BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE CASE.

I THINK THAT THIS IS EXCELLENT PROGRAMMING AND, YOU KNOW, I'M EXCITED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A NEW FACILITY THAT CAN HOPEFULLY EXPAND THE PROGRAMMING.

UM, I WANTED TO GO BACK TO, UM, OH, WELL, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE, I WENT ONCE BY MYSELF, UM, JUST TOOK MY SON TO THE, ALONG THE TRAIL AND WAS ABLE TO SORT OF VIEW THE SITE COMING UP, UM, TAKING LIKE A BIKE TRAIL AND COMING UP FROM THE TRAIL, LIKE, SO APPROACHING IT THAT WAY.

UM, AND THEN A SECOND TIME WE WERE ABLE TO GO MEET WITH MR. JOHNSON AND A COUPLE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, AND I WAS ABLE TO DRIVE MY CAR AND SORT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, SO I FEEL LIKE I HAVE, UM, THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE VARIOUS APPROACHES.

AND WHEN I SAY DRIVE MY CAR, I AM, UM, NOT QUITE BEING HONEST, CAUSE IT IS A MINIVAN.

I AM A PERSON THAT DOES A LOT OF DROP-OFFS.

SO I ALSO HAVE THAT UNDERSTANDING, UM, THAT SAID, IF WE, UM, OH, ANOTHER POINT I WANTED TO ADDRESS DIRECTOR MCNEELY TALKED ABOUT THIS, UM, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE PART ABOUT OPTIONS TWO AND THREE AND THE WAY THEY ADDRESS THE USE OF THE PART BUILDING, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WAS COUNCIL'S DIRECTION TO INCLUDE THOSE IN THE OPTIONS.

I THINK IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE I DON'T, I KNOW I DON'T, AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE ANYONE FEELS EMPOWERED TO VOTE FOR AN OPTION

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THAT DEMOLISHES A HISTORIC BUILDING WITHOUT HAVING FUNDS TO REPLACE IT.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY WANTS THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO HAVE SATISFACTORY OFFICES.

SO WHEN I SAY THAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE CONFUSING, THEY ARE, I'M NOT AT ALL INTENDING THAT THAT'S SOMETHING STAFF DID.

I THINK IT'S JUST THE WAY THE COUNCIL SET IT UP, MADE IT, UM, CHALLENGING AT THIS POINT TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE PART OFFICE WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO LOCATE THE DOHERTY.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK BACK AT, I BELIEVE IT'S YOUR SLIDE THREE THAT HAS THE COUNCIL DIRECTION.

GIVE US JUST A SECOND.

WE'RE PULLING IT UP.

THANK YOU.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, A CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT, BUT TO ME IT REALLY DOES SORT OF REFLECT THE, THE CLUSTERING OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE PRESERVATION OF THE OPEN SPACE.

AND WHEN WE MET THE OTHER DAY, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION THAT, UM, PUTTING THE BUILDING AT THE CLOSE TO, TO ME WAS CHALLENGING BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE SETBACKS FROM, TO ME.

BUT WHEN I WAS JUST DOING SOME RESEARCH, I LOOKED BACK AND FOUND THAT IN FACT, I BELIEVE IT WAS DESCRIBED THAT THE SETBACK FROM, TO ME WOULD PROVIDE A COMMUNITY LIVING ROOM.

SO IT ACTUALLY PROVIDED IN AN AREA FOR COMMUNITY RELAXING SORT OF ENJOYING BEFORE YOU ENTER THE ARTS CENTER SPACE.

UM, AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE SOME ADVANTAGES THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, ADVANTAGES AND KEEP THE BUILDINGS CLOSE CLUSTER TOGETHER CLOSER TO, TO ME.

UM, AND ULTIMATELY LOOKING VERY CLOSELY AT ALL OF THESE IN WALKING THE SPACE BY MYSELF.

I JUST, I DO NOT, I CANNOT SUPPORT AN OPTION.

ONE B THAT PLATE SEPARATES THE BUILDINGS, UM, CREATES, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE ACTUALLY WHEN I LOOKED BACK, IT'S LIKE ALMOST, YOU KNOW, THREE DRIVEWAYS.

THERE'S THE BIG CIRCLE DRIVE, UM, CREATES ALL THESE DRIVEWAYS AND JUST CUTS UP THE PARKLAND.

I FEEL THAT OUR OPEN SPACE AND OUR PARKLAND IS SOMETHING WE CAN NEVER REPLACE.

WE CANNOT GET IT BACK.

UM, AND IT'S, IT'S SO VALUABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW.

AND I JUST FEEL THAT KEEPING THAT OPEN SPACE AND KEEPING THE BUILDINGS TOGETHER AND HAVING THIS ARTS COMPLEX, THAT'S MORE COMPACT IS GOING TO BE A BETTER OPTION.

ALSO IN REGARD TO THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT TO TALK ABOUT THE EXPENSE.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY HARD TO TALK ABOUT ONE OPTION BEING COSTING LESS THAN ANOTHER ONE.

WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW THAT DIFFERENTIAL.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE I CAN TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, UM, AS SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD SUPPORT IS, UM, OPTION ONE A WITH A DIRECTION TO REDUCE THE IMPACT TO THE HERITAGE TREE.

EXCUSE ME.

UM, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, LET'S SEE, BECAUSE WE'RE IN, HAD THAT SLIDE UP.

I CAN'T SEE THAT, UH, WHO HAVE I NOT SPOKEN OR ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS I THINK GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU.

SORRY FOR MY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES EARLIER.

SORRY.

HOPE Y'ALL CAN HEAR ME NOW.

UM, SO FIRST, UH, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK ALL THE STAFF, UM, FOR ANSWERING ALL MY QUESTIONS.

I HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS VIA EMAIL WITH MR. JOHNSON, UM, AND WAS ABLE TO ALSO VISIT THE SITE WITH THEM.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, HIM AND ENDED UP THE OTHER STAFF FEELING ALL THE MANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR THEM.

UM, IT WAS REALLY GOOD FOR ME TO SEE THE LOCATION.

UM, ORIGINALLY I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING THAT THE BUILDING SIDE OFF THE TRAIL IN ONE BEAM WOULD BE SUPER OBVIOUS AND, UH, JUST INTRUSIVE TO, TO TRAIL USERS, TRAIL USERS.

UM, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, AFTER GOING TO THE ACTUAL TRAIL SITE AND SEEING IT FROM THE TRAIL, IF IT ACTUALLY IS MORE SETBACK AND NOT SO OBVIOUS AS,

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AS I WAS THINKING.

UM, AND, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THIS IDEA OF A CENTRALIZED ARTS PLUS PARKS DISTRICT, UM, IS REALLY GREAT AND DESIRABLE, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THIS PARTICULAR SPACE AND THE WAY IT'S BEING PROPOSED FOR ONE B IS, IS THE RIGHT AVENUE FOR ACCOMPLISHING THAT.

UM, I DO, YOU KNOW, ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MAYBE WITH ONE FEE THERE MIGHT BE MORE GREEN SPACE INTO TOTALITY.

UM, BUT, BUT I AGREE, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM AS QUALITY OF BRAIN SPACE AS WHAT'S ALREADY THERE, WHICH IS A BIG OPEN SPACE.

UM, WITH ONE B THE GREEN SPACE SEEMS TUCKED AWAY, NOT VERY VISIBLE AND, AND NOT OBVIOUS THAT IT'S PUBLIC FOR EVERYONE TO USE.

UM, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE FOR THE DOHERTY ARTS AND, AND THE ZACK PATRONS THERE.

UM, SO I DEFINITELY SEE THOSE SIDES BETWEEN IF WE'RE JUST GOING BETWEEN ONE AND ONE B UM, I DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE ARE CONS WITH, WITH ONE A, BUT, UM, I WOULD BE, I'D BE MORE INCLINED TO SUPPORT ONE, ONE, A UBER, ONE B UH, THAT'S IT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY POINTS THEY WANT TO MAKE OR QUESTIONS? ASK TERRY LEWIS? IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN WITH ONE COMMENT, I DID GET A RESPONSE FROM THE ARCHITECT, THE DISTANCE FROM THE BUILDING TO THE TRAIL EDGE VARIES IN THE, IN THE LOCATION THAT OPTION ONE BEAT, BUT HE'S TELLING ME AT THE CLOSEST IT'S BETWEEN 60 AND 70 FEET.

SO THAT WAS THE QUESTION OF FORMAT MEMBER COTTON.

CYBIL I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT.

OKAY, THANKS.

THANK YOU.

CAN I, CAN I REQUEST THAT WE JUST LOOK AT A AND B NEXT TO EACH OTHER AGAIN, ONCE MORE? SURE, SURE.

THANK YOU.

DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COTTON SEIBEL? YES.

DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? YOU JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT THEM.

I JUST WANTED TO LOVE, THANK YOU.

SURE.

SURE.

OKAY.

SO I, AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN A STRUGGLE FOR ME, AND I DID GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT WITH A COUPLE OF BOARD MEMBERS AND KEVIN, AND I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE ELIMINATING.

AND HONESTLY, IT REALLY WASN'T, BUT, BUT IT DID GIVE ME A FEEL FOR WHAT THE MISSION IS THAT WE'VE KIND OF TRYING TO TRANSFORM THIS INTO AN ART PARKS DISTRICT WHERE YOU CAN WALK OVER TO THE SILVER AND OPEN UP THE DIRTY ART CENTER.

SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST CLASSES, BUT A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE IN DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES AND HAVE GARDENS OUTSIDE AND SO FORTH.

SO I, I GET THAT AND I THINK IT'S HARD TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH IT.

IT'S, IT'S REALLY KIND OF A QUESTION OF PRESERVING THAT GREEN SPACE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN USE IT FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY WANT ARE KIND OF INCORPORATING INTO THIS PARKS AND ARTS DISTRICTS.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING.

I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE WEEDS.

AND ONE OF THEM WAS WITH THIS WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU WERE GOING TO TRY TO GET A LEAD RATING, RIGHT.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

WE'LL BE GOING AFTER A LEAD GOLD CERTIFICATION.

SO YOU WILL HOT WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, RAIN BARRELS AND RAIN GARDENS, OR IT'S DEFINITELY A TOOL IN THE TOOL KIT TO HAVE RAINWATER COLLECTION.

UM, WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN ABOUT SPECIFICALLY WHETHER OR NOT THAT WILL BE AN ASPECT OF THE PROJECT.

WE WILL HAVE RAIN GARDENS AS WATER QUALITY TREATMENT ELEMENTS TO TREAT STORM WATER BEFORE IT MAKES ITS WAY INTO LADY BIRD LAKE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THEN WITH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT WE WOULD, AND THAT CAME OF PARKLAND WITH, UM, THE ONE WITH A BULLET.

WOULD THAT BE, I'M SORRY, YOU WERE A LITTLE CHOPPY.

CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? SORRY.

IT'S PROBABLY MY HORRIBLE INTERNET.

SO WITH YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE A NET GAIN OF TWO ACRES OF PARKLAND WOULD BE ONE.

WHAT WOULD BE THE GAME WITH A ONE OR WOULD THERE BE A GAME? WELL, THE NUMBERS I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME ARE SHOWING ESSENTIALLY THE SAME GAIN FOR BOTH OPTION ONE A AND ONE B UM, IT'S, IT'S

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A TOTAL OF LESS THAN A 10TH OF AN ACRE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO SCHEMES.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

SO DOES THAT GAIN INCLUDE THE BOW? I MEAN, THE LAND FROM THE BALL FIELDS OR IT OKAY.

OKAY.

WHICH, WHAT YOU COULD SAY IS ALREADY FRANKLIN, BUT, OKAY.

SO, SO I, AND THAT IS THE ONE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE ABOUT THE AWAN IS THE, IS THE PARKING ENTRANCE THAT YOU HAVE ONLY ONE ENTRANCE THAT GOES ONTO RIVERSIDE, RIGHT.

WITH A ONE AND NOT THE, THE, TO ME.

SO THAT KIND OF LIMITS, UM, I MEAN, THAT COULD CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC ON THAT PARTICULAR AREAS.

WELL, SO, WELL, I, I AM NOT REALLY PREPARED TO, UM, SUPPORT ANY OPTION AT THIS POINT, BUT I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO, TO HEAR IF HE WANTS TO RECOMMEND YES, GO AHEAD.

THE CHAIR.

WHAT WOULD PEOPLE, IF YOU LOOK, IF EVERYBODY LOOKED AT ONE B AND WE HAD MOVED THE BUILDING CLOSER WHERE IT'S, IT IS MORE COMPACT AND CONNECTED TO HEADQUARTERS.

SO WHAT, SO WHAT, RIGHT.

BUT WHAT DIRECTION MOVED THE BUILDING? AND ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LEAVING IT TOWARDS HEADQUARTERS, BUT WE'VE COME UP WITH THE DIAGRAM PLEASE.

CAN WE LOOK AT THE SLIDES PLEASE? DAN SHIFTED TO THE EAST? YEAH.

WE SH IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SHIP, NOW, YOU HAVE THOSE, YOU HAVE SOME HERITAGE TREES RIGHT THERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I MEAN, IF YOU WERE ABLE TO PLACE THE BUILDING, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO NEST IT WITH THE, WITHIN THOSE HERITAGE TREES.

SO YOU'RE ABLE TO CREATE THAT CONTINUOUS SPACE THAT WE VALUE IN ONE A, BUT YOU'RE RELIEVING THE FRONTAGE.

IT'S SHOWN ME AND YOU'RE GETTING A SETBACK OR AT LEAST ATTEMPTING TO GET A SETBACK.

AND EVEN FOR THE FACT THAT YOU CAN PUT A BUILDING ON, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOME OF THE BUILDING ON TOP OF THE UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE.

WELL, CAN I HAVE, UH, I HAVE A COMMENT THAT I WAS SEEKING CLARIFICATION BECAUSE ALSO IT, WASN'T NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT THERE'S NO ENTRANCE FROM, TO ME.

I MEAN, ON ONE DAY, LIKE I, I SEE THE PARKING LOT GOING DIRECTLY TO IT.

SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED BY THE CHARACTERIZATION THAT THERE IS NO TUMI ACCESS.

THIS IS TO THE SERVICE AREA WHO HAD THE CHARACTERIZATION.

WAS IT FOR ME? NO, I THINK DAWN ASKED THE QUESTION AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARITY ON THAT.

I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU RICH.

NO, NO, NO, GO AHEAD.

DON CHAIR.

NO, NO.

YEAH.

SO FOR ME, I ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD THAT THE, THE CHALLENGE WITH ONE A WAS COMING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH THE ADDITIONAL ACTIVATION OF TUMI ROAD.

AND SO THEY WERE LOOKING TO RELIEVE THE ACCESS AND THIS WAS COMING FROM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS RELIEVE SOME OF THAT BY HAVING ACCESS THROUGH RIVERSIDE DRIVE.

OKAY.

BUT TO BE CLEAR, I THINK THE ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION VOTED AND GAVE COMMENTS TONIGHT.

SO I'M NOT, DID THEY, THEY, THEY TOTALLY DON'T WANT TO DATE.

SO I WANT TO BE RESPECTIVE OF IF THEY'VE, IF THEY'VE, IF THEY GAVE A COMMENT TWO YEARS AGO, AND NOW THEY'VE LOOKED AT THIS AND THEY ARE TAKING IT INTO ACCOUNT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

AND, AND, AND I COULD APPRECIATE THAT.

I'M JUST GOING BACK TO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE PAST.

I WOULDN'T DESIGN THIS.

THIS IS A MUNICIPAL CITY-WIDE METRO SPACE.

THIS ISN'T DESIGNED FOR ANY ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK THAT THERE, THE, WHEN WE SAY THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS THAT IS ZILKER AND I GUESS BOLDEN YEAH.

JUST TRAFFIC PROSPECTS, RIGHT.

BOARD MEMBERS.

I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE CONDOS THAT ARE RIGHT ALONG TO ME, THEY WERE, THEY ARE ALSO PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

SO I KNOW WE THINK USUALLY THINKING IN TERMS OF NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THEY, THE ENTITIES THAT LIVE ALONG HERE WERE ALSO, UM, ALSO HAD AN OPINION.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEIR OPINION IS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW THAT THEY WERE CONSIDERED TOO.

I'D LIKE THAT.

I, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE, THE THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SHARED ABOUT THESE OPTIONS.

AND, UM, I REALLY WASN'T SURE WHAT TO THINK AT FIRST, BUT I FIND MYSELF VERY PERSUADED, UM, TOWARDS OPTION ONE, A BASED ON THIS IDEA OF THE, UM, AS THE OPTION THAT OFFERS THE MOST KIDS TAKE EWAS

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GREENSPACE IN ADDITION TO, UM, BEING ABLE TO UPGRADE THE FACILITIES.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT QUALITY AS WELL AS QUANTITY OF GREEN SPACE IS, UM, IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO I REALLY LIKED BOARD MEMBER FAST SITE, THE, OF SUPPORTING ONE, A DIRECTIVE TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ATTENTION TO THE HERITAGE.

UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO KEEP, KEEP UP THIS DISCUSSION.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I'M COMFORTABLE WITH AT THIS POINT, IF WE WERE TO TAKE A VOTE WELL, AND I WANT RICH TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE POINT HE WAS MAKING, I DID NOT MEAN TO, UH, UH, TO STEER AWAY FROM THAT.

AND I WOULD, I WOULD ADD THAT SOME OF THE COMMISSIONS, YOU KNOW, HAVE NOT LANDED ON AN OPTION, BUT GIVEN, GIVEN FEEDBACK.

SO IF WE CAN CONSOLIDATE, IT DEFINITELY SEEMED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSIONS DID LEAN ON ONE A, THERE WAS SOME APPRECIATION ON DESIGN FROM ONE MEMBER, UH, RELATING TO ONE B, AND THERE WAS SOME ASPECTS OF THAT I'LL REFERENCE WHAT THOSE WERE.

IT WAS NATURAL, SHARED PARKING DECOUPLING OF THE PROJECT GIVES DA THE DAC, ITS OWN IDENTITY, WAYFINDING PERSPECTIVE.

THOSE WERE THE, THOSE COMMENTS.

UM, UH, I AM HAPPY TO DO WHAT A, I THINK WHEN A WOULD BE GREAT.

I WOULD LOVE TO CAPTURE THE UNDERGROUND PARKING OUTSIDE OF THE CIVIC PLAZA.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE THAT CIVIC PLAZA IN SOME WAY, WHETHER YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU EVEN POSSIBLY DO THAT.

UM, THERE MAY NOT BE A WAY, BUT, UM, BUT ALTERNATIVELY, GOING OVER TO THE GALLERY LAWN THAT YOU SEE IN ONE A, IF YOU MOVED THE BUILDING THE CLUSTER OVER TO THAT, I I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT TOO.

SO, BUT GIVEN THE CONSENSUS, I'M HAPPY TO DO ONE A AND B REALLY WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS ON STAFF TO LOOK AT A PARKING GARAGE UNDERNEATH THE ACTUAL STUDIOS AND THEATER AND SCHOOLS JUST UNDERNEATH THE FACILITY.

RIGHT.

WELL, AND I WILL SAY THIS, IT STILL MAKES ME NERVOUS WITH THAT PARKING GARAGE IS ABOUT THE FUNDING BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU GET UNDER THERE, WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE OVER THERE AND HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST AND ANIMATION SURE WOULD HATE FOR ANYBODY TO, I JUST PAY FOR IT.

AND THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A P THREE.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE CAN PAY FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF AT THAT POINT.

RIGHT? WELL, 20 YEAH.

28 MILLION IS IS, IS NOT ENOUGH.

YEAH.

BUT YOU'D HAVE TO DO A PIECE.

YOU'D HAVE TO DO A P THREE.

YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE, UH, A BUILDER OPERATOR OR A BUILDER THAN SOMEBODY ELSE DOING THE OPERATOR.

UM, AND THEN HAVE A REVENUE SHARE FOR THE PARKING GARAGE AND IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

AND THAT'S WHAT EITHER LIKE CIVIC PLAZA, PARKING GARAGE, OR THIS OTHER, THE OTHER SPACE.

UM, AND THEN IF THE OTHER, IF WE'RE SEEING SCHLOCKY IS GOING DOWN TO FOUR STORIES ON THEIR PARKING GARAGE, ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TWO STORIES.

THERE SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE NO CHALLENGES THERE.

SO BOARD MEMBER DEPALMA, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THE ON-GUARD EIGHT, THE PARKING GARAGE B UNDERNEATH WHERE THE THEATERS AND THE SCHOOL ARE? I I'M SAYING IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

YEAH.

I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER WHY THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS FEASIBLE, BUT ON ONE BEAT, THAT'S WHERE IT IS.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S UNDER THE LAW.

YEAH.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

I COULDN'T, IF I WAS UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT LOCATING THE PARKING GARAGE UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING AND OPTION ON PAID, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO IT MAY BE POSSIBLE TO DO THAT.

UM, IT GETS PRETTY TIGHT WITH THE, UM, PICKUP AND DROP OFF LOOP AT THE FRONT OF THE, THE FACILITY AND THE SERVICE DRIVE TO THE BACK OF ESSENTIAL COMPONENTS AND ADDING THE THIRD ELEMENT INTO IT, WHICH WOULD BE PROVIDING ACCESS TO AN UNDERGROUND GARAGE.

YOU JUST GET SOME REALLY DENSE KIND OF CIRCULATION PATTERNS OVERLAPPING THERE.

IT DOESN'T MAKE FOR THE BEST CONDITION, RIGHT.

AT THE FACILITY ENTRY THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR SOME BOTTLENECKING THERE.

UM, WE WERE ALSO TRYING TO MEET THE REQUEST TO DIVERT SOME OF THE TRAFFIC TO THE RIVERSIDE DRIVE FRONTAGE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE LOOKED AT THAT LOCATION.

YEAH, NO, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT SPECIFIC INTENT ON THE, THE OTHER ONE IN THE DROP-OFF, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT SORT OF VOLUME ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AMOUNT OF KIDS DURING THE PROGRAM? I MEAN, AT MY SCHOOL I HAVE A A HUNDRED, I MEAN, I'VE 800 STUDENTS.

IT GETS KEVIN, IT GETS, IT GETS FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT.

UH, AT THE PEAK TIMES OF DAY, UM, I WOULD HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK WITH STAFF AND THAT THEY HAD REQUESTED TO ALLOW QUEUING FOR UP TO 40 CARS IN A SITE DESIGN BECAUSE OF THEIR EXPERIENCE AT THE CURRENT FACILITY.

AND, AND THEY HAVE A MODEL THAT'S NOT WORKING OVER

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THERE.

SO IT IS NOT, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT, BUT IT COULD BE IN THE, IT COULD BE CLOSER TO LIKE 200 AT, AT, AT A GIVEN TIME, BUT IT'S NOT 80.

CAN, CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? IT'S AM I JUMPING ON ANYBODY? YES.

GO AHEAD PLEASE.

SO, ONE THING, ONE THING I UNDERST I I'M, I'M REALLY TORN ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THAT SO CLOSE TO THE, TO, TO THE TRAIL.

BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE, WHEN I THINK ABOUT IN THE BIG PICTURE, I THINK THAT THIS VERSION OF ONE A REALLY DOES HIDE THE DAC FROM SHIELDS.

IT IS, I CAN TELL YOU TO ME IS SO CROWDED AND IT'S GOING TO BE HARDER, I THINK, TO GET TO THE, TO THE DAC WHEN IT'S OVER HERE.

AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SOLUTION, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS AND THINKING IT'S MORE TUCKED AWAY HERE.

I THINK IT DOES FEEL A LITTLE LESS ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC BACK HERE, EVEN THOUGH I DO LIKE THAT, IT'S GOT THE BIGGER CONTIGUOUS GREEN SPACE.

SO I DON'T KNOW, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT THAT I THINK TO ME IS TOO TINY FOR MUCH TRAFFIC AT ALL.

IT WAS ALWAYS A LITTLE TINY STREET.

IT'S WORSE NOW THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE HUGE CONDOS, VERY, VERY TALL CONDOS WITH LOADS OF PEOPLE TRAVELING THERE.

THERE'S THE BASEBALL FIELD, THAT'S PARKING WHEN THERE ARE EVENTS AT ZILKER PARK AND, UM, YOU KNOW, NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE TRY TO GET CARS OFF THE ROAD, SOME PEOPLE STILL DO HAVE TO TRAVEL BY CAR AND IT'S ENOUGH PEOPLE THAT THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT BOTTLENECK.

AND SO I FEEL LIKE HIDING THIS, THIS SORT OF HIDES IT AWAY IN A SENSE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING IT BEHIND THE ZACK, I THINK IT MAKES IT FEEL LESS ACCESSIBLE, HONESTLY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO TOSS THAT IN THERE TOO.

THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING, DAWN.

THIS IS KATIE.

GO AHEAD PLEASE.

OKAY.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS CONVERSATION AND, UM, LOOK, I LIKE THE LOCATION OF THE PARKING GARAGE ON ONE B AND, AND THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING FROM ONE A.

AND SO I THINK THAT I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT RICH WAS ASKING.

CAN WE USE THE, UM, LOCATION OFF TO ME BURY THE PARKING GARAGE AND BUILD ON TOP OF IT? SO IT'S ALL.

AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TOO.

UM, REMEMBER COTTON SEIDEL ABOUT TO ME, IT'S TINY, BUT ONE B JUST SORT OF LOST ME WHEN YOU SAID THERE WILL BE AT LEAST 40 CARS QUEUED UP IDLING WITH ALL THAT EXHAUST ON THE TRAIL.

I'M ABSOLUTELY NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT AT ALL.

I DON'T WANT ANYONE SITTING AROUND IDLING IT'S LIKE ASS, BUT IT'S TERRIBLE TO BE RIGHT THERE IN THE ZONE IF THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT WHOLE GIANT CIRCLE IS FOR.

SO WE CAN HAVE 40 PEOPLE IDLING WAITING TO PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN.

I'D RATHER PUT THEM ON TO ME.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT THAT ASK WAS TO MEET TRAFFIC DEMAND.

IT'S NOT DESIGN CRITERIA FOR OPTION ONE B IT WAS SUGGESTING THESE ARE THE AMOUNTS OF CARS THAT QUEUE AT THE CURRENT JORDY ARTS CENTER, WHICH IS BIG TO CONSIDER.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE DEAL WITH AT SCHOOLS, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A NO IDLING POLICY, THEY DON'T ADHERE TO IT.

IT'S HOT PEOPLE JUST RIGHT.

AND THAT'S THE PIECE OF IT TOO, IT'S THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE WHERE PEOPLE, THE KIDS ARE GOING TO, THEIR BIKES OR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS, CAN BE PICKING UP KIDS.

SO THAT'S THAT, MEMBER'S JUST GOING TO GO, JUST KIND OF GO UP.

YEAH.

I, I ALSO THINK THAT, UM, I, I CAN DEFINITELY APPRECIATE WANTING THIS, UM, THESE FACILITIES TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE REALLY VISIBLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC AND PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I JUST THINK THAT IN, IN ONE B THE FACILITIES ARE ALSO REALLY TUCKED AWAY FROM, UM, FROM THE MAIN ROAD.

IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUPER VISIBLE FROM RIVERSIDE OR FROM, TO ME JUST LIKE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE AN OPTION ONE EIGHT EITHER.

UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT'S, UM, I THINK THAT IS FOR BETTER OR WORSE, WHETHER, WHETHER YOU PREFER THEM BE MORE TUCKED AWAY OR YOU WANT THEM TO BE CLOSER TO THE STREET.

I THINK IN BOTH, BOTH ONE A AND ONE B, THEY ARE PRETTY, UM, THEY'RE GONNA, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A BIG PRESENCE FROM EITHER OF THE PUBLIC ROADS.

OKAY.

ANY MORE COMMENTS OR, UM, QUESTIONS FOR, UM, FOR KEVIN? OKAY.

THANK YOU, KEVIN.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND YOU ANSWERING A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE HAVE, WE REALLY DO.

AND, AND AS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO ALL THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT INTO THIS, AND I KNOW IT'S, UM,

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A LOT OF FUN GLENN BEFORE ALL THESE COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS TO, TO, TO, UM, PRESENT.

I'M SURE YOU'RE UM, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, I, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE SOME OPINIONS AND, UM, SO IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.

I MOVE THAT WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL FOR OPTION ONE, A, AND FOR THEM TO INVEST THE ABILITY TO DO AN UNDERGROUND PARKING GARAGE UNDERNEATH THAT SECOND, PLEASE.

SECOND KATE, KATE SECOND, RIGHT? OKAY.

WELL, YOU HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND IT'S TIME TO VOTE.

SO HERE WE GO AROUND TO AFTER OUR LAST MEETING.

SO ALL IN FAVOR OF FOUR MEMBER DIPLOMAS, MOTION, SAY, AYE, AND CUT, AND CYBIL DID YOU VOTE FOR IT? OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

I'M JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

AND IT'S, AND SO THE EVERYBODY ELSE MOVED FORWARD, I COULDN'T, I DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF LOOKING.

SO I AM FOUR.

OKAY.

IF YOU DO RAISE YOUR HAND SO I CAN SEE KEVIN, DO YOU WANT ME TO CALL THE NAMES SAMMY? I WAS ABLE TO GET IT.

I'LL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE VIDEO.

I DON'T KNOW THE PROCEDURE, BUT I WILL.

I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO MAKE A MOTION IN SUPPORT OF THAT, BUT WITH A DIRECTION TO REDESIGN, TO NOT IMPACT THE HERITAGE.

WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY, THAT'S SO FUNNY.

CAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO JUST SAY.

THAT WAS LIKE MY BIG, BECAUSE THE TREE HAS, I AM.

THAT WAS THE THING ABOUT THAT ONE THAT REALLY BOTHERED ME.

I HAVE A CHAIR TO THAT POINT.

I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT I HAVEN'T, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE TREAT MITIGATION FUNDS TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE, THAT OUTLET THE DEPARTMENT WOULD DO THAT THE CITY WOULD DO.

IT'S A HERITAGE TREE THERE'S FUNDING THAT SHOULD STILL BE THERE.

GRANTED IT PREVENTS US FROM PLANTING NUTRIENTS AND I I'M.

RIGHT.

AND I'M NOT ARGUING WITH YOU ABOUT THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH US.

KIND OF REINFORCING THAT WITHIN THIS.

LISTEN TOO.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MOVING A HERITAGE TREE BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW EFFECTIVE THAT IS OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT RECONFIGURING BUILDINGS TO WORK AROUND THE HERITAGE TREE ON THAT ONE? I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR MAYBE DIPLOMA BECAUSE HE WITH TREE FOLKS, HE PROBABLY KNOWS MORE ABOUT MOVING HERE.

YEAH, NO, I, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MOVING THE TREE AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT ISN'T AN ESCARPMENT LIBO DO WE KNOW WHAT THE I WAS THERE? THEY SAID IT'S A 25 INCH RED OAK.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IF THERE, GO AHEAD, KEVIN.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S NOTHING.

SO, I MEAN, IF THEY GET A BIG ENOUGH SPACE, THEY DO IT THE RIGHT TIME OF YEAR AND THEY PUT IT IN THE RIGHT SPOT AND PREP.

IT WE'VE HAD TREMENDOUS SUCCESS IN THE CITY DOING IT.

I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF MOVING TREES BECAUSE OF THE COST.

AND THAT TAKES IT FROM PLANTING NEW TREES.

BUT I ALSO APPRECIATE THE REAL VALUE TO TOO.

I MEAN, I LOVE, I'M A TREE GEEK, YOU KNOW, I AM A, I AM A TREE FOLK, UH, AND SO I LOVE TREES.

AND SO YEAH.

I MEAN, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THAT IS WHAT WOULD, YEAH.

IT'S ALSO BEEN ADDRESSED BY OTHER COMMISSIONS, SO RIGHT.

ENVIRONMENTAL ADDRESS THAT.

SO, AND KEVIN, IS IT JUST THE ONE, THE ONE FEE THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH.

AND THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, TREES OUT THERE ANYWAYS TO BE ON THE SYSTEM.

OKAY.

SO I, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO AND JUST ADD THAT, THAT WE WANT TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE VOTE THOUGH.

YEAH, WE DID.

WELL, I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND ASK THAT WE, UM, SO WHAT WOULD YOU SAM BE IF YOU NEED, IT WOULD BE A

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RE UM, I WANT TO ADD AN AMENDMENT HELLO, TO RECONSIDER.

I'D LIKE TO ADD MY AMENDMENT TO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME.

I DID NOT, I DID NOT VOTE FOR THE FIRST TIME.

I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.

I DIDN'T CALL THE VOTE.

SO WHY DON'T WE JUST DO A SEPARATE MOTION? I THINK IT'S FINE.

JUST AS, AS A SEPARATE MOTION AND WE JUST KIND OF THE TWO MOTION AND IT'S ALL RELATING TO THE SAME PROPERTY.

IT'S NOT A REPOSTING.

AND SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST DO A MOTION? OKAY.

THEN I WILL MOVE THAT WITH THIS, UM, SITE PLAN THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT THE HERITAGE TREE AND DO WHAT WE LET'S SEE PROTECT THE TREE.

UM, UM, WE MOVED TO HERITAGE TREE LIMITED THE HERITAGE TREE AND, AND OKAY.

I'LL JUST DO THAT.

I MADE THE HERITAGE TREE AND ENSURE THAT WE ARE OUR DESIGN AROUND IT.

I MEAN, IT'S YEAH.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO WE MOVE WELL, OKAY.

EITHER MOVE OR DESIGN AROUND THE HERITAGE TREE, LET'S JUST DO THAT IN CASE I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE FINAL DESIGN IS GOING TO BE, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND THE LONG ONE.

OKAY.

SO I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION SECOND BY DIPLOMA, ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT TO ME.

THANK YOU, CHAIR LEWIS.

I DID NOT A BOARD MEMBER.

MASON MURPHY VOTE ON THE TREE, THE TREE MOTION.

I AM IN FAVOR OF THE TREE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

OKAY.

MAYBE

[B.4. Discussion and possible action regarding creation of a joint working group with the Animal Advisory Commission. Presenter(s): Kimberly McNeeley, Director, Parks and Recreation Department]

BONDS.

SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE TWO WORKING GROUPS TO TALK ABOUT AT THIS POINT.

AND SO I THINK, UM, SO BEAR THAT IN MIND, IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, UM, WANTING TO BE INVOLVED WITH ONE, REMEMBER THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS HERE.

SO, UM, SO GO AHEAD.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, DIRECTOR MCNEELY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING CREATION OF A JOINT WORKING GROUP WITH THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.

RIGHT? SO, UM, SO BOARD MEMBERS PLEASE KNOW THAT THE, UH, ANIMAL SERVICES COMMISSION CREATED A WORKING GROUP SPECIFICALLY TO TALK ABOUT UNLEASH AND OFF-LEASH ISSUES.

AND SO THEY, THEY, AS AN ANIMAL SERVICES COMMISSION, THAT PARTICULAR CONVENTION, UM, HAS BEEN RECEIVING A NUMBER OF CONCERNS.

UH, MOST OF THEIR CONCERNS, AT LEAST FROM MY OBSERVATION HAVE BEEN ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT OF OFF-LEASH ISSUES.

ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT I HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY RECEIVING A NUMBER OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHY WE DON'T HAVE MORE OFF-LEASH OPPORTUNITIES.

AND WHY, WHY ARE WE EVEN IN FORCE OFF-LEASH IN CERTAIN CERTAIN AREAS? AND SO, UM, IT BECAME OBVIOUS SINCE THE ANIMAL SERVICES COMMISSION WAS WORKING ON THIS ISSUE AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS RECEIVING, UM, A NUMBER OF, OF COMMENTS AND CONCERNS, PERHAPS CREATING A JOINT WORKING GROUP TO CONSIDER THE ISSUES RELATED TO AWFULLY ISSUES SPECIFICALLY TO ANALYZE SOME OF THE DATA THAT'S COMING IN TO TAKE A LOOK AT LOCATIONS WHERE OFF-LEASH SPACES ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE, PLACES WHERE THEY ARE, WHERE THEY'RE COMING ONLINE, UM, SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE COMPLAINTS ARE, ARE, UM, HAPPENING, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CONCENTRATION AREAS LOOKING, BE TAKING A LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR A COMMUNITY DRIVEN PROCESS TO CONSIDER WHETHER SOMETHING SHOULD SWITCH FROM ONLINE TO OFF-LEASH OR VICE VERSA IF SOMETHING'S AWFULLY.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS, MAYBE HOW DO YOU SWITCH IT TO BEING ON LEASH AND RATHER THAN THE ANIMAL SERVICES COMMISSION TAKING THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON THEMSELVES.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS GROUP, AND OBVIOUSLY THE DEPARTMENT HAS A STAKE IN THOSE DECISIONS, BUT IT MIGHT BE NICE FOR, UM, FOR PARKS BOARD MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT WORKING GROUP AND ANYONE WHO CHOSE TO DO THAT, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE ABLE TO MAKE, UM, THE INTRODUCTIONS JUST BECAUSE OF THE SHORT TIME THAT I SPENT AT THE ANIMAL SERVICES, UM, IN THE, IN THE CAPACITY OF THE CHIEF ANIMAL SERVICES, AUSTIN OFFICER INTERIM, AND IN THAT INTERIM POSITION, UM, I'LL BE ABLE TO DO A NICE INTRODUCTION TO THOSE BOARD MEMBERS.

AND, UM, UH, I WOULD SERVE AS THE DEPARTMENT, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER INDIVIDUALS WE WOULD SERVE AS THE DEPARTMENT SUPPORT TO, TO THE CONVERSATION.

AND SO I WAS HOPING THAT YOU ALL MIGHT CONSIDER, UM, TWO MEMBERS TO BE A PART OF THAT WORKING GROUP.

OKAY.

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THANK YOU.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, I'M JUST GOING TO JUST GO OVER THE OTHER WORKING GROUP AND THEN PEOPLE CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

OKAY.

SO WE CAN JUST DO IT LIKE THAT.

SO THEY, SO THIS OTHER

[C.1. Discussion and possible action regarding creation of a joint working group with the Environmental Commission. Presenter: Dawn Lewis, Board Chair]

WORK IS I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, THE CHAIR OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, LINDA GUERRERO, ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S COMING UP AT THREE OH FIVE, UM, CONGRESS.

AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT WAS WHERE THE AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN WAS.

AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE REDESIGNED.

AND, UM, IT'S GOING TO HAVE A WATERFRONT PARK AND BUILDINGS AND IT'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT GOING ON.

I MEAN, THEY HAVE, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT MAY HAPPEN.

THERE'LL BE AN EXTENSION OF THE TRAIL.

THERE MAY BE ACTUALLY BE A, A METRO, UM, STOP.

THERE THERE'S COULD BE A PEER.

THERE COULD BE, UM, A BOARDWALK.

I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF IN THE WORKS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY IMPORTANT PARK.

AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S PROBABLY GOOD FOR US TO KIND OF BE ON, BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WATERFRONT, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LAKE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARK AND IT'S KIND OF GOOD FOR US TO KIND OF HAVE CONVERSATIONS.

SO WE KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING AND KIND OF WORKING IN SYNC TO TRY TO HAVE KIND OF A, MORE OF A COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT BOTH THE ENVIRONMENT AND PARKS SO WE CAN MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, WELL THOUGHT OUT DECISIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO SHE, UM, SO THIS IS GOING TO BE THIS WORKING GROUP IS JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT.

AND WE ALSO, I THINK, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET ANOTHER, I THINK WE'RE MEMBER DELUCA WAS ON THE SOUTH, UM, CENTRAL WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD, I MEAN, ADVISORY BOARDS.

SO WE NEED TO PROBABLY GET THAT POSITION FILLED TOO.

CAUSE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE.

SO THOSE, SO THAT'S THE OTHER ONE THAT WE, UM, THAT YOU CAN CHOOSE TO BE ON? I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE TIME RANGE.

I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF MEETINGS, BUT IT'S, UM, SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, TIME COMMITMENT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A REALLY BIG, OKAY.

SO I'LL JUST, IF YOU JUST WANT TO, UM, SEE AGAIN, I KNOW EVERYBODY'S BUSY.

I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE A LOT GOING ON.

IS YOU HAVE A QUESTION BOARD MEMBER, COTTON SITE? UM, NO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO JUST COMMENT THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED EITHER IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP THAT'S GOING ON WITH THE, I COULD LITERALLY THROW A ROCK AT THAT PROJECT FROM MY HOUSE.

AND SO I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN BEING EITHER ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORKING GROUP FOR THAT, OR, UM, POSSIBLY ON THE, ON THE BOARD DEALING WITH THAT WHOLE PARK.

SO THE WHOLE THING.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SO FORMER DECARLO, DID YOU WANT TO BE ON ONE OF THOSE WORKING GROUPS? AGAIN, NOBODY HAS TO BE ON EITHER ONE.

IT'S JUST SEVEN.

WE ONLY NEED TWO FOR THE ANIMAL ADVISORY.

SO, UM, I W WHILE I AM INTERESTED IN, IN BOTH, UM, PROBABLY MORE SO THE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, UM, I JUST DON'T THINK I HAVE THE CAPACITY RIGHT NOW TO, TO BE ON ONE OF THE WORKING GROUPS, BUT THANK YOU FOR ASKING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

KATE BOARD MEMBER, LISA MURPHY.

UH, I, I DEFINITELY HAVE AN INTEREST AND PREFERENCE PERSONALLY, WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AS WELL.

AND, UH, I AM INTERESTED IN HOW AT PROJECT I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THAT PROJECT, SO, AND, UH, I'M INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT ALL PLAYS OUT, CAUSE IT'S REALLY THE FIRST BIG IMAGINE AUSTIN INACTION PROJECT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER.

DEPAULA I THINK I ABSOLUTELY LOVE REMEMBER COTTON CYBIL ON THE, IN THE JOINT ENVIRONMENTAL ONE, LOOKING THE STATEMENT ASIDE.

I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

I DO HAVE SOME NOTES WHEN I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THAT PROJECT WAS IN A COME UP IN FRONT OF US AND THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, PASS ALONG.

UM, BRANDON, I'M SURE IT LOOKS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NOW, BUT, UH, SO WHEN THE TIME COMES, I'D BE HAPPY TO, TO NOMINATE HER FOR THAT.

OKAY.

DID YOU WANT TO SERVE ON IN ANY ONE OF THE WORKING GROUPS? I'D BE WILLING TO GO ON WATERFRONT? UM, IF THERE'S NOT INTEREST BY ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER.

OKAY.

UM, VICE CHAIR.

UM, FIRST, DO YOU WANT TO SERVE ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE? NO, I, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ASKED, BUT I JUST, I DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY RIGHT NOW.

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SO, UM, WOMEN WERE IN THE LD.

YEAH.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

BOTH OF THESE WORKING GROUPS ARE HAPPENING.

I'M REALLY INTRIGUED BY THE WORKING GROUP WITH THE ANIMAL COMMISSION, BECAUSE DOGS ARE OBVIOUSLY SUCH A, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE A HUGE ISSUE.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FIGURE OUT HOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN SAFELY ENJOY THESE OUTDOOR PLACES WITH THEIR DOGS AND NOT IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT.

UM, I'M DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN FOLLOWING THAT ONE, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK I HAVE THE CAPACITY EITHER, BUT I'LL CHECK IN WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE IF I FEEL LIKE I CAN, IF I CAN JOIN THAT ONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

INFORMED MEMBER FAUST.

I THINK IT IS ALL RIGHT.

I WAS MUTED.

UM, THERE IS, UH, A LOUD CHOIR OF CHILDREN OUTSIDE MY DOOR RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO BOTH OF THEM WORK, WORKING GROUPS ARE VERY, VERY INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT.

I LIKE WHAT THE, THE INS, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL THE, THE, THE GETTING, GOING TO THE FINANCIAL COMMITTEE? UM, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO, TO COMPREHEND ATTENDING, UH, YOU KNOW, BEING A, A GOOD MEMBER OF ANOTHER WORKING GROUP, BUT I'M CONCERNED WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THIS ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION WORKING GROUP IF NOBODY VOLUNTEERS FOR IT.

BUT THEN IF I VOLUNTEER, I AM THE WORKING GROUP AND THAT'S, I WILL, I WILL DO THAT SMELLING TOO.

SO I WILL, I MEAN, I WANT US TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE ON THERE, SO I THINK, UM, YEAH, THE DOG, THE DOG ISSUES, WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE SAFE IN OUR PARKS.

UM, AND THERE'S DEFINITELY, IT COMES UP A LOT.

THERE'S A LOT OF DOGS IN AUSTIN, SO I GUESS I CAN DO THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE TIME COMMITMENT IS, BUT IF IT'S LEARNING ABOUT THE ISSUE AND GETTING SOME RESEARCH AND THEN MAKING SOME SUGGESTIONS, SUPPOSE WE CAN DO THAT.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD PASS BOARD MEETINGS THAT YOU CAN LISTEN TO AS WELL THAT THAT'S COME UP.

IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS.

YEAH, I'M CHAIR.

I JUST WANT TO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOU GOING THROUGH AND TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO DO, BUT WE JUST NEED TWO SEPARATE VOTES, IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY.

UM, ONE SPECIFIC TO THE ANIMAL SERVICE COMMISSIONS WORKING GROUP, AND THEN THE SECOND TO THE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, UH, WORKING GROUP.

SO I'M JUST, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S TWO SEPARATE VOTES.

THAT'S ALL DON.

I THINK YOU'RE MUTED.

I AM.

I AM MUTED.

THANK YOU.

I I'M JUST, UM, SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, UM, LET'S SEE.

SO WITH THE ANIMAL ADVISORY, I'M JUST GONNA S UM, NOMINATE A BOARD MEMBER FAST TO MYSELF TO SERVE ON THE, UH, IN THE WORKING GROUP OF THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO? AND THEN STILL ALL IN? UM, SO I HAVE ANOTHER, NATHAN, DO I NEED A SECOND FOR THIS ALL SECOND.

THANK YOU ALL IN FAVOR.

OKAY.

IT PASSES.

THANK YOU.

SO THAT ONE'S DONE.

SO WITH THE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION, WHEN WE HAVE BOARD MEMBER, AND AS LONG AS WE HAVE LESS THAN A QUORUM, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD.

WE HAVE BOARD MEMBER, COTTON, CYBIL BOARD MEMBER, MASON, MURPHY, AND BOARD MEMBER PALMA THAT HAVE AGREED TO BE ON THAT BOARD.

I TOLD HER I WOULD TRY TO BE ON THAT.

I'M JUST NOT SURE.

SO THAT'S ON THE STATESMEN ONE.

SO, NO, I'M NOT ON THE STATE'S ONE.

I'LL BE ON THAT SIDE.

SORRY.

YEAH, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

PASS ALONG INFORMATION.

I'M SORRY.

SO YOU DID NOT WANT TO BE ON THIS CHASE.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL PUT, UM, BOARD MEMBER, COTTON CYBIL BOARD MEMBER, MASON MURPHY, AND I GUESS MYSELF ON THE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION WORKING GROUP.

SO DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND ALL IN FAVOR? YOU'RE JUST FASTER ON THE UNMUTE.

I JUST KEPT IT ON MUTED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO THERE WE GO.

WE HAVE OUR GROUP.

THANK YOU GUYS.

I KNOW EVERYBODY IS, IS REALLY BUSY.

IT HAS A LOT GOING ON.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

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IS WATERFRONT POSTED.

DID YOU WANT TO TAKE OF THAT NOW? OR IS THAT NOT POSTED? I DON'T THINK IT'S POSTED.

I JUST MENTIONED IT.

I, IT'S NOT POSTED, SO WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT FOR, UM, THE NEXT WEEK.

SO,

[C.2. Discussion regarding transition of the Alternative Funding Working Group activities to the Finance Committee. Presenter: Nina Rinaldi, Board Member]

OKAY.

SO MOVING ON NOW, THIS IS ABOUT DISCUSSING REGARDING THE TRANSITION OF THE ALTERNATIVE WORKING FUNDING GROUP ACTIVITIES AS COMMITTEE AND NINA.

DID YOU WANT TO BOARD MEMBER RENALDI? DID YOU WANT TO, UM, TO TALK ABOUT THAT? YEAH.

UM, I WAS THINKING ACTUALLY THAT THE, A GOOD PROCESS WOULD BE FOR ME AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WORKING GROUP CONVENER AND FORMER CHAIR OF THE WORKING GROUP TO PRESENT AT THE, THE FINDINGS OF THIS WORKING GROUP AT THE FIRST FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING.

UM, AND THAT WAY EVERY, ALL THE FOLKS ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.

THEN THE RESULTS OF THE RESEARCH THAT THE ALTERNATIVE FUNDING WORKING GROUP IS, HAS DONE SO THAT Y'ALL CAN TAKE THAT AND, UM, AND USE IT IN YOUR OWN DELIBERATIONS ABOUT THE, UM, FINANCIAL ISSUES.

UM, SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY THINKING ABOUT THE PROCESS, BUT DO WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON ANYTHING IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT TRANSITION HAPPEN? SO TO TAKE THE WORK THAT THE, UM, THE ALTERNATIVE FUNDED GROUP DO AND TRANSITION IT OVER TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, DOES THAT HAVE TO BE, I'M JUST FINE.

I JUST AM NOT CLEAR ON IF THERE'S, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY BOARD ACTION REQUIRED TO CLOSE THE COMMITTEE FOR THE WORD RIGHT.

TO CLARISSA COMMITTEE.

AND, AND, AND SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND I'M GONNA, UM, SEE IF SAMMY'S GOT ANY, UM, I DID, BECAUSE I'M NOT, I WOULDN'T THINK SO, BUT MAYBE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO, BECAUSE IT'S A WORKING GROUP AND IT'S NOT A TASK FORCE, SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAVE TO OR NOT.

I'M NOT SURE SEMI DEMONS.

SO BOARD MEMBERS THAT, I DON'T KNOW, LET SAMMY ASKED HER ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT WE'RE NOT POSTED FOR ACTION REGARDLESS.

SO, UM, EITHER WAY WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT FOR YOU ALL.

AND I THINK, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ISSUE WITH PUTTING ON THE AGENDA FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, IF A BOARD MEMBER OF RINALDI WANTED TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION AND THEN COMING BACK, AND IF WE HAVE TO HAVE A FORMAL ACTION, WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT.

THE NEXT, THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

YEAH.

ONE OF THE THINGS, SORRY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD ASK THAT THE CHAIR MAKE THE DECISION ON THE FIRST AGENDA BEFORE WE LEAVE.

RIGHT.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT BECAUSE, UM, UM, BOARD MEMBER FAST WHO CHAIRS THAT COMMITTEE, I KNOW SHE'S ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT FOR THE FIRST MEETING.

AND SO, UM, SHE PROBABLY NEEDS TO ADDRESS THAT, RIGHT.

AND IT DEVELOPED, WE FULLY INTEND TO TAKE A LIST.

I MEAN, I THINK IT WAS ALREADY PRESENTED AT THE FULL BOARD, THE WORKING GROUP LISTS, BUT WE FULLY INTEND TO INCORPORATE THAT LIST INTO THE WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP TOPICS.

WE WANT TO RESEARCH AND LOOK UP FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, IF YOU WANT TO COME AND GIVE US MORE INFORMATION, THAT'D BE GREAT.

IT MAY NOT WORK ON OUR VERY FIRST MEETING BECAUSE, UM, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA GO NOW GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE BUDGET AND THE UNMET NEEDS, BUT YOU'D CERTAINLY, WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT.

YEAH.

I THINK TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

YEAH, I THINK, UH, JUST SO THAT THERE'S A RECORD OF THE, THE RESEARCH OF THE WORKING GROUP MEMBERS DID, AND WE, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S, THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE PUBLICLY FOR THE, UM, FOR THE, THE FUTURE FINANCE COMMITTEE TO USE AND IN WHATEVER WAY YOU WANT TO USE IT.

SO, UM, JUST LET ME KNOW, UM, IF THERE'S A FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING WHERE I CAN COME, UM, TALK ABOUT THAT AND I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

GREAT.

YES.

THANK YOU.

LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO WE'VE MADE IT THROUGH THE, UM, THE, JUST NOW WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR'S

[D. DIRECTOR’S REPORT ON PROGRAM AND PROJECT UPDATES AND EVENTS]

REPORT.

SURE.

SO BOARD MEMBERS, OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THIS TO YOU, BUT I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, UM, THAT, UH, ON PAGE TWO, THERE'S SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE ZILKER METROPOLITAN PART VISION PLAN.

AND THAT'S ONE THAT I THINK, UH, IS A HIGH PROFILE AND PEOPLE ARE, ARE ASKED ABOUT IT.

AND SO PLEASE KNOW THAT THERE'LL BE SOME, SEVERAL SMALL GROUP DISCUSSIONS IN APRIL AND THEN A LARGER COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WILL KICK OFF THE PROCESS IN MAY.

BUT, UM, THAT ALL THAT HAS NOT ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE UP TO THIS POINT IS A GENERAL SURVEY TO HELP INFORM HOW WE WILL, UM, PUT TOGETHER THE DISCUSSION PROCESS.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, SOME TECHNICAL ADVISORY GROUP MEETINGS TO BE ABLE TO START TO GET, TO GET STARTED ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.

AND PLEASE KNOW THAT PROJECT CAN ACT THAT IS GOING TO IMPACT SOME OF OUR PARK, UH, PREP SYSTEM AND OUR PARK AREAS.

UM, SPECIFICALLY THERE'S THE BLUE LINE AND THE ORANGE LINE THAT WILL BE COMING THROUGH DOWNTOWN,

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AND THEY MAY HAVE SOME IMPACTS TO, UH, BRUSH SQUARE TO NORWOOD, UM, A STATE DOG PARK.

UM, IT MIGHT HAVE SOME, SOME IMPACT TO, UH, WALNUT CREEK TO REPUBLIC SQUARE.

AND ALSO THERE ARE TWO BILLS AND LEGISLATION RIGHT NOW BEING CONSIDERED HOUSE BILL 38 93 AND SENATE BILL 1838, THAT SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT, UM, HOW TO, UH, HOW TO ALLOW CA METRO TO DO THE WORK ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, WITH THE SUBWAY SYSTEM AND THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED AND ALLOWING THE USE OF REPUBLIC SQUARE.

AND JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS, UM, THE SQUARES IN DOWNTOWN ARE ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE STATE LEASED TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOR A NOMINAL FEE OF A DOLLAR, I BELIEVE.

AND THEN, UM, FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR REPUBLIC SQUARE, WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE TO BE ABLE TO, UM, OPERATE AND THAT SPACE.

SO IT GETS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE BEING DISCUSSED.

NOTHING'S BEEN DECIDED TO THIS POINT, UM, IF YOU GO TO PAGE THREE, UH, WE ARE ISSUING, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE AN RFI AS IT RELATE TO THE WALNUT CREEK SPORTS COMPLEX.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT RFI PROVIDE US SOME INFORMATION.

UH, THAT'S WHAT RFI IS, RIGHT? OR OUR REQUEST FOR INNOVATION ONE OR THE OTHER.

AND THEN WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE CONTRACTS AND CONCESSIONS COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SOME REAL DECISIONS ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT OR POSSIBLE PARTNERSHIP OR T3 OPPORTUNITIES AT THAT SPORTS COMPLEX.

OR MAYBE WE'LL GET IDEAS THAT THIS BOARD SAYS, NONE OF THEM ARE WORTH US MOVING FORWARD WITH THEM.

WE MIGHT GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, BUT THE POINT BEING IS, IS WE'RE PUTTING IT OUT THERE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO THE, TO THE PARTS FOR CONTRACTS AND CONCESSIONS COMMITTEE FOR CONSIDERATION.

UM, YOU'LL SEE, A NUMBER OF PAGES ARE JUST BOARD MEMBER CUT, COTTON.

CYBIL I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU, UH, SOMETHING MORE COMPREHENSIVE WITH REGARDS TO BOND SPENDING, BUT YOU'LL SEE IN THE AREA WHERE WE TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT UPDATES, THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY PROJECTS IN WHICH BOND MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON, UM, THE MS. BARRIENTOS MEXICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL CENTER.

THE DAF IS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT TODAY.

ALL OF THAT IS, IS BOND FUNDING.

UM, I WANTED TO JUST DRAW OR BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO US PUTTING IN LED LIGHTS AND REPLACEMENT PROJECT ON BALL FIELDS THAT ARE IN DISTRICT ONE AND THREE.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT AS IT RELATES TO EQUITY AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE LIGHT IN SPACES FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO RECREATE OUTSIDE IN A SAFE LOCATION, UM, AND FEELING AS THOUGH THEY ARE, THEY, THEY ARE SAFE IN THEIR PARK AND, AND EXTENDING THE HOURS IN WHICH THEIR PRODUCT CAN BE USED.

UM, THERE IS INFLAMMATION AND ON PAGE EIGHT, ALSO ABOUT OUR AQUATICS SITUATION AND, AND SOME OF THE REPAIRS THAT ARE HAVING TO BE DONE BECAUSE OF OUR WINTER STORM WAR OR WINTER STORM THAT HAPPENED.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WHILE WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING SPECIFIC PARK ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE AQUATICS, WE ALSO HAVE AN ENTIRE NAPPING SYSTEM OF OUR, OUR WHOLE PARK SYSTEM.

AND I THINK I TOLD YOU LAST TIME, WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY, AND MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS IN DAMAGE THAT WAS CAUSED BY THE STORM THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REPAIRING.

UM, IF YOU GO TO PAGE 10, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THERE, PLEASE KNOW THAT WOOLRIDGE SQUARE RECEIVE THE LONE STAR LEGACY PARKS, UH, AWARD FROM THE TEXAS PARKS AND RECREATION, UM, SOCIETY.

AND SO WE WILL BE POSTING, UH, SOME PHOTOS AND SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO CELEBRATE THAT VIRTUALLY.

UM, ALSO PLEASE KNOW THAT IF YOU WERE TO, UM, GO THROUGH THESE PAGES, YOU'LL SEE SOME PROJECTS IN DEVELOPMENT OF THE GO VALLEY.

UM, BUT VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AND THE RETAIL ELEMENT OF THAT PARTICULAR, UH, PLAYSCAPE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE AUSTIN PARKS FOUNDATION.

AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE VIRTUAL PROGRAMMING THAT WE WILL BE, UM, WILL BE, UH, UH, WE HAVE BEEN OFFERING.

AND I JUST NEED YOU TO KNOW THAT WHILE IT'S NOT OUTLINED IN THIS PARTICULAR REPORT, WE WILL BE MEETING WITH THE AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT TOMORROW TO REALLY TALK ABOUT, UM, THE RESTART OF OUR SUMMER CAMP PROGRAMMING AND OUR SUMMER PROGRAMS. AND WE'LL BE, UH, ISSUING A MEMO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED BASED UPON WHAT THE PREDICTIONS ARE FOR OUR DIFFERENT RISKS STAGES AND WHERE THE CITY OF AUSTIN FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH INDOOR EVENTS.

UM, SOMETHING YOU CAN HELP US WITH IS ON PAGE 17.

WE'RE TALKING A LOT ABOUT LIFEGUARD APPLICATIONS AND GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT LIFEGUARDING CLASSES.

WE ARE IN STAGE THREE AND WE ARE ABLE TO NOW, UM, PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR LIFEGUARDING TO BEGIN.

UH, AND SO THE MORE RECRUITS THAT WE CAN HAVE, THE BETTER PREPARED WE WILL BE

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FOR THE SUMMER, THAT IS, THOSE ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS, BUT IT'S A, I DON'T KNOW, LET'S SAY 18 PAGE REPORT.

SO THERE'S A LOT MORE STUFF THAN THERE WE'D LIKE TO EAT IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD STUFF GOING ON.

OKAY.

[E. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

SO LET'S JUST REALLY QUICKLY WRAP THIS UP AND LET'S GET THE FUTURE AGENDA.

I'LL START WITH YOU, UH, BOARD MEMBERS.

I THINK A BOARD MEMBER, MASON MURPHY WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT.

I APOLOGIZE.

I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU WITH PENS.

I WILL.

THANK YOU.

I WAS LOOKING AT ON PAGE THREE, UM, KIMBERLY, THE TALKING ABOUT THE WILDER SITE THAT 48 OH TWO SOUTH CONGRESS, AND IT SAYS IT WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION TONIGHT.

YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT HAPPENED? NOPE.

I'VE BEEN IN THIS MEETING, SO I AM NOT SURE, BUT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE PLAN THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY POSTPONED DUE TO AN APPLICANT SITUATION, BUT I CAN FIND OUT AND LET YOU ALL KNOW TOMORROW, BUT I'M NOT SURE.

OKAY.

AND, AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, DURING THE WINTER STORM, I WENT TO THE CREEK EVERY DAY AND I TOOK A TON OF PICTURES AND I HAVE PICTURES OF ALL OF THOSE NATURAL STEEPS IN, UM, THAT ARE ICICLE FORM THAT WOULD BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THAT PROPERTY.

OKAY.

SO I'LL FORWARD THOSE CAUSE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION SHOULD SEE THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

DID ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE WENT ON TO THE ITEMS? OKAY.

UM, OH, GO AHEAD.

I THINK YOU'RE MUTED.

I THINK YOU'RE MUTED.

IT DOESN'T WANT TO UNMUTE ME.

IT WANTS TO GO TO BED.

UM, I WAS GOING TO ASK MY DIRECTOR MCNEELY ABOUT THOSE ARE THOSE IMPACTS FROM THE, UM, PROJECT CONNECT, LIKE ACTUALLY TAKE A PARK SPACE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IN THE REPORT AND ABOUT THE BRIDGE? YEAH.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLETELY NOW.

IT'LL DEFINITELY BE SUBTERRANEAN, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF IT'S A SUBWAY, IT'LL ALL BE UNDERNEATH THE PARK IS A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT SITUATION.

AND I'M ASSUMING, RIGHT.

ALTHOUGH THE DESIGN HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME STAIRCASE OR SOME WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME UP FROM THE SUBTERRANEAN.

SO IN SOME FORM OR FASHION, THERE WILL PROBABLY BE SOME IMPACTS, BUT WE ARE ALREADY AT REPUBLIC SQUARE.

WE ALREADY HAVE, IT'S ONE OF THE BUSIEST, UM, TRANSIT OR BUS AREAS.

AND SO THERE'S ALREADY THAT FUNCTION AT REPUBLIC SQUARE.

SO HOW IT WILL BE INTEGRATED.

I, I, CAN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT, UM, I CAN'T A HUNDRED PERCENT ENSURE, BUT, UH, THE, THE, THE HOUSE BILL AND THE SENATE BILL IS REALLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE RIGHTS ARE BELOW THE PARK.

BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING BELOW THE PARKING.

IT WON'T HAVE SOME IMPACT TO THE UPPER PART OF THE PARK.

AND ESPECIALLY, THERE'LL PROBABLY BE SOME IMPACTS, ALTHOUGH TEMPORARY DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.

AND SO I, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE ALL AWARE OF THAT, BUT NONE OF THE DETAILS HAVE REALLY BEEN WORKED OUT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

REMEMBERED THE, CARLA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR NEXT TIME? YES, I DO.

UM, I WAS, I WAS HOPING TO GAIN, UM, MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ON PARKLAND ACQUISITION, UM, AND, AND NOT REALLY PARKLAND DEDICATION, UH, BUT MORE SO W UH, WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FUNDS OR BUDGET FUNDS OR, UM, VON PONGS, UH, THAT ARE GOING TOWARDS PARKLAND ACQUISITION.

UM, UM, I GUESS I'M JUST LOOKING FOR MORE, UH, ABOUT LIKE THE PROCESS OF HARD HAS FOR DETERMINING, YOU KNOW, WHAT PROPERTIES TO BUY, UM, HOW Y'ALL ARE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, WHAT PRIORITIES OR CRITERIA ARE IN PLACE THERE.

UM, AND I DO KNOW THAT Y'ALL PROVIDE THE INFORMATION ABOUT PARKLAND ACQUISITIONS IN THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT, UM, WHICH IS REALLY HELPFUL.

UM, BUT I GUESS I WAS ALSO MAYBE HOPING JUST TO GET LIKE A, UH, A WIDER RANGE OF ALL THOSE, LIKE JUST A LIST MAYBE OF THE PAST FEW YEARS OR SO IF POSSIBLE.

UM, SO I, UH, THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT, THAT MADE SENSE, BUT ALL OF THAT COULD GIVE ME A REPORT OR A PRESENTATION AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER Y'ALL FEEL IS BEST.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, BOARD MEMBER, MASON MURPHY.

UM, I AM, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THIS IS, HOW THIS WILL WORK, BUT LOOKING FOR, UM, EVIDENCE OR WAYS TO

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IMPROVE THE, ON THE GROUND, UM, IMPLEMENTATION OF, UH, PROJECTS THAT ARE PARRED AND WATERSHED AS THEY SEEM TO FOLLOW DIFFERENT RULES.

AND SO WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS, MUCH OF THE LAND IS OWNED BY WATERSHED.

SOME OF IT'S OWNED BY PART, AND I'D LIKE TO REALLY HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT TAKES PRECEDENT, UM, HOW WE MIGHT ACTUALLY ACTIVATE MORE OF THIS GREEN SPACE AND PUT IT INTO PARKLAND.

WE HAVE GREEN SPACE, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO ACTIVATE IT.

SO, UM, SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, LIKE, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO QUITE FIND THE MAGIC FORMULA TO WORK WITH BOTH DEPARTMENTS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN THERE WAS SO, SO DO YOU WANNA, HOW, HOW PARKS WORKS WITH WATERSHED OR, OR, OKAY.

SO IN AN, IN AN EXAMPLE, LIKE HOW MIGHT WE BEST WORK IN OUR COMMUNITIES WHEN SOME OF THE LAND IS OWNED BY PART, AND SOME OF IT IS OWNED BY WATERSHED AND THE COMMUNITY IS GENERATING IDEAS.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, FORMING A PARTNERSHIP WITH PARD IS ONE THING, BUT WE HAVE NO OTHER, UM, THE OTHER HALF, MORE THAN HALF IN OUR CASE OF THE EQUATION IS THE WATERSHED DEPARTMENT.

AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT SAME.

THERE'S NO COMMUNITY ACCOUNTABILITY, THERE'S NO PUBLIC OVERSIGHT.

THERE ISN'T ANY OF THAT.

AND I'D LIKE TO BRING THAT A LITTLE BIT, UM, MORE TRANSPARENT FOR THE PUBLIC.

OKAY.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE A PRESENTATION OR A REPORT OR? I, I, I DON'T, IF THAT'S, UM, HAVING DAVID TRUJILLO THERE AND US LOOKING, UM, IN SOME SORT OF CAPACITY TO BETTER WORK TOGETHER, UM, LESS OPERATE IN SILOS, HOW MIGHT WE DO THAT? AND, UM, CAN THE BOARD HELP FACILITATE THAT? OKAY.

SO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM WATERSHED COME PRESENT TO US ABOUT THAT, BUT THOSE PARTICULAR ISSUES ACTIVATE GREENSPACES THAT'S PERFECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THAT'S TOO FAR SET.

I HAVE NO AGENDA ITEMS AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

UM, BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA.

YEAH.

UM, I, I WOULD SUPPORT BOARD MEMBER MURPHY.

UM, AND SECOND, WHAT SHE'S LOOKING FOR.

UM, DO YOU THINK IT'S, FOR ME, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT IS, IS HAVE, HOW PARK WATER SAID WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.

WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY HAVE IN ORDER TO FIND THESE SHARED SPACES AND BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE CHALLENGES, IF IT IS RELATES TO CODE, THEN HOW MUCH OF IT, IT'S ALSO YOUR FISCAL RESTRAINT.

AND WE CAN USE CASE IN POINTS, THE STORMWATER AREAS OVER THE TANGLEWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE SURROUNDING AREA, UM, AS A, AS A TALKING POINT.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD ONE FOR ME.

UH, THE OTHER ONE, I THINK APRIL, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING, I'M SEEING AGENDA FILL UP, WE GOT TO TALK BUDGET.

UM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING UP IN APRIL ON THE SUMMER SEASON, IS THAT IN THE NEXT, NEXT MEETING WILL BE MAY.

AND SO REALLY HAVING A GOOD UNDERSTANDING AS FAR AS WHAT DIRECTION THE DEPARTMENT IS GOING WITH SUMMER CAMPS AND AQUATICS IN THIS, IN THIS CURRENT COVID LEAVING ENVIRONMENT, VACCINATION ENVIRONMENT, AND, AND JUST HAVE A GOOD IDEA.

AND THEN ANA THE AQUATIC SIDE, HOW DOES THE BARTON SPRINGS BATH HOUSE PROJECT IMPACT OR TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IN THIS? THAT'S IT RICH? YEAH.

OKAY.

SO IS THAT TWO SEPARATE, I MEAN, DO YOU WANT THAT KIND OF INCORPORATE INTO THE AQUATICS THINK THE SUMMER CAMP YET THE BARTON SPRINGS IS A CORPORATE INTO AQUATICS BECAUSE THAT WILL IMPACT POTENTIALLY IF WE HAVE A RENOVATION PROJECT THAT HAPPENS DURING THE SUMMER BARTON SPRINGS AND THE QUICK ANSWER WOULD BE, UH, WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE FALL OR THE WINTER, THEN THAT WOULD BE THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LONG ANSWER IF IT WERE LOOKING TO, TO START DURING THE SUMMER,

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UM, THEN JUST KIND OF GET A SENSE WHAT THE PLAN IS BEFORE OUR EMAILS GET BLOWN UP.

OKAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

REMEMBER RINALDI? YEAH.

THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE, UM, THE INTEREST IN HEARING ABOUT THE PLAN FOR SUMMER CAMPS.

THAT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT.

UM, AND I, YEAH, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT SERVICE AND RESOURCE THAT SO MANY FOLKS RELY ON.

SO I'M VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT AND I'M GLAD THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME MOVEMENT.

GREAT.

OKAY.

SO GIVE ME THAT.

OKAY.

WE'RE MEMBER FAUST.

UM, YEAH, I WAS IN, I WAS INTERESTED.

I DON'T THINK I QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PRODUCT IS GOING TO BE, BUT THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, COORDINATED PROJECTS BETWEEN WATERSHED PROTECTION AND PARKS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S, UH, A REALLY, UH, A BIG CHALLENGE THOUGHT A LOT OF CITIES DEAL WITH AND ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER PROJECT WHERE I, THAT I THINK IS COMING THAT WHERE THAT COULD BE POSSIBLY, I THINK YOU A CASE STUDY WAS THE WORD, BUT SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE THAT COULD BE DESCRIBED, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE BROKER YOLKS, PUD THAT REDEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING, THEY'RE PLANNING SOME STORMWATER FACILITIES, WATER TREATMENT FACILITIES THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO A PARK-LIKE AREA, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THERE.

SO, AND I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHO'S, HOW DOES THAT MAINTENANCE, WHO IS THE MAINTENANCE FALL TO THE MANAGEMENT? UM, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR HOW PARKS AND WATERSHED ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO A EVALUATE THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARDS, AND I'LL JUST PREVIEW TO THE BOARD.

THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF OTHER THINGS ABOUT THAT DEVELOPMENT IN DISTRICT FIVE THAT I'M GOING TO BE BEARING BACK, BRINGING BACK TO YOU ALL, BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF ISSUES ABOUT IMPACTS TO THE BARTON CREEK GREENBELT, UM, ACCESS TO THE GREENBELT, BUT ALSO POTENTIAL IMPACTS.

SO, UM, YEAH, SO I JUST WANT TO ADD ONTO THE, THE ITEM THAT, UM, MASON, MURPHY AND DEPALMA SUGGESTED.

UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU ALL THAT I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ACTUALLY ON THAT EXACT, UH, RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENTS AND PARKS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES.

UM, I'LL HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THERE'S A LOT, SO I'LL, I'LL WAIT.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

LET'S SEE.

DID I GET EVERYBODY? I DID HAVE A STARTING POINT POSSIBLY FOR THAT CONVERSATION WITH, UM, PART AND WATERSHED, AND IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS, UM, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN MAP WITH AN OVERLAY OF PARDON PROPERTIES AND WHERE YOU CAN OVERLAY WATERSHED OWNED PROPERTIES AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE WHOLE CITY LOOKS LIKE.

IT'S PRETTY AMAZING.

AND IF THE, UM, RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO DEPARTMENTS WORK BETTER, WE HAVE PARKS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THAT'S MY OPINION, FROM WHAT I SEE IF WE'RE TALKING CASE STUDY CENTRAL WAY, GREAT PAY STUDY.

WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

UM, YOU DIDN'T CALL HIM THAT'S OKAY.

I HAD ALREADY, UM, PUT THE, PUT THE STAFF TO WORK THE, THE, UM, QUESTION ABOUT BOND MONIES.

SO THAT'S MY ONLY ORDER OF BUSINESS, RIGHT? YEAH.

AND SO THERE'S CERTAINLY AS A LOT, AND I, I DON'T WANT IT TOO MUCH.

I, I KINDA DO WANT TO FIND OUT IF THERE WAS ANY STATISTICS ON HOW MANY PARKS HAD HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS AND JUST KIND OF TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR AND WHERE WE ARE THIS YEAR, BUT THAT IS NOT URGENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AT SOME POINT, SINCE THAT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE THAT IS GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE YES, GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, I WONDER IF WE SHOULD GET INFORMATION, NOT JUST ABOUT WHO'S THERE, BUT WHAT IS BEING DONE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'VE BEEN SOME HOTELS BOUGHT AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS TRYING TO DO SOME, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A LONG RANGE PLAN.

SO MAYBE HOW COULD WE GET THAT INFORMATION TOO? THAT WOULD GO DOVETAIL WITH THIS.

OKAY.

SO ON MY STRATEGY OFFICER TO EITHER PROVIDE INFORMATION OR PARTICIPATE IN.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

I KNOW THAT'S A LOT THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR TONIGHT THAT,

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YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF, SO I DON'T, I KNOW STAFF IS BUSY, BUT HOPEFULLY, UM, BUT I'LL JUST TAKE LINKS.

IF THERE IS A DISCUSSION ME PERSONALLY, NOT CAN'T SPEAK TO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS.

IF THERE WAS A DISCUSSION MADE ON ANOTHER BOARD COMMISSIONER COUNCIL OR A COMMITTEE OF COUNCIL, THEN I WOULD JUST TAKE THE LINCOLN AND LISTEN TO THEM.

WHATEVER'S WHATEVER Y'ALL, UM, CAN DO.

OKAY.

SO I THINK THAT'S IT.

I THINK WE, WE DID IT.

WE ACTUALLY, UM, IT'S EIGHT 52 AND WE WERE DONE, SO THANK YOU GUYS.

EVERYBODY TAKE CARE.

AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER IT'S GOING TO BE VIA ZOOM, BUT IT'LL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE WHILE LONGER, AS LONG AS THE GOVERNOR KEEPS CALLING IT, PUTTING US IN A STATE OF EMERGENCY, I GUESS WE'LL KEEP GOING.

SO WE'LL SEE.

BUT ANYWAYS, Y'ALL TAKE CARE.

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