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A LETTER WITH COMMISSIONER

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OR WHATEVER MISSIONER LANE ARE WE AT? CORA? LET'S SEE ONE.

YES, WE ARE AT FORUM.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN I SEE COMMISSIONER BERNHARD LOGGING IN AS WELL.

SO WE ARE GOOD TO GO.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, GOOD

[CALL TO ORDER]

AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS REBECCA GONZALEZ.

I AM CALL OFFICIALLY CALLING TO ORDER THE APRIL 5TH, 2021 MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING.

UH, WE WILL HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS COMING ON.

I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THEM.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY ARE NOT HERE, SO WE WILL SAVE THAT, UH, UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY ARE HERE.

SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND, UM, MOVE FORWARD.

I BELIEVE

[Citizen Communications]

OUR FIRST ACTION ITEM IS A CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS.

I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE MR. CARLOS LEONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, CORRECT.

GREAT.

MR. LEE ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES.

GOT IT.

SO AT CARLOS LEON, FIRST AND FOREMOST, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE OLDEST FOR LETTING ME AGAIN, EXPOSE A CRITICAL LOCAL PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT.

THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION HAS YET TO ADDRESS THE APPARENT NETWORK RING OF PUBLIC SERVANT CAT METRO MALE BUS DRIVERS ABUSING THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY BY ACTING LIKE HOMO PEDAL SEX OFFENDERS AGAINST ME, A TARGETED STRAIGHT MALE WHISTLEBLOWER.

THEY USE SAY TANNIC RITUAL ABUSE BEHAVIORS TO TRY CONFUSING.

IT CONTROLLING ME TO A FEMINATE AND EMASCULATE ME TO GASLIGHTING DOMINATE ME TO MISTREAT ME LIKE AN ABUSED BITCH, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES ACTING LIKE ABUSIVE BITCHES AT BOARDING THEY'LL INTENTIONALLY STOP IN THE WRONG PLACE OR NOT STOP AT ALL FOR EXITING THE OPEN, THE WRONG DOORS OR NOT OPEN ANY DOORS TO UNLAWFULLY RESTRAINED ME.

THEY'LL ALSO NOT LOWER THE BUS OBSTRUCT THE PASSENGER.

I'LL TRY TO MAKE YOU REPEAT YOURSELF.

START INAPPROPRIATE ASS, BACKWARD PERSONAL INTERACTIONS, AND FALSELY SAY STUFF THAT'S UPSIDE DOWN AND INSIDE OUT TO TRY BULLYING ME.

WHEN I RIGHTLY DEFEND MYSELF AGAINST THEIR VERBAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL, AND SPIRITUAL ATTACKS, THEY WRONGLY FLIP CRIED, BULLYING, CAP, METRO, AND APD TO PLAY THE VICTIM TO VILLAINIZE ME THOUGH.

THEY'RE THE PUBLIC SERVANT PERPS WHO ARE PUBLIC SAFETY THREATS, WHO WON'T STOP UNTIL THEY'RE STOPPED.

FOR EXAMPLE, OPERATOR ID THREE ZERO FIVE ZERO FIVE ZERO FOR SKULL, A YALA PER THE CAP.

METRO ID AROUND HIS NECK CONTINUES HOMOSEXUALLY HARASSING ME A STRAIGHT MALE PASSENGER.

DESPITE ALL THE PREVIOUS CAT METRO COMPLAINTS FILED AGAINST HIM DOCUMENTING HIS SICKLE ON-CAMERA CRAP, INCLUDING GOING THROUGH A RED LIGHT FROM A DEAD STOP AT A MAJOR INTERSECTION TO NOT WAIT FOR THE GREEN.

IT'S SO BAD.

NEITHER HIS SUPERVISOR WHO PREVIOUSLY REMOVED HIM DECEMBER 12TH, NOR CAP METRO SECURITY RESPONDED LAST WEEK, WHEN HE, AGAIN, WRONGLY CALLED THE POLICE AGAINST ME FOR RIGHTLY REJECTING HIS HOMO PEDAL PASSIVE AGGRESSION.

SO APD AGREED WITH FILING COMPLAINTS AGAINST HIM, UNLESS, AND UNTIL HE AND OTHER GUILTY OPERATORS LIKE (309) 550-3026 HUNDRED, 308 20 AND THREE OH SIX, SEVEN 20 ARE FIRED AND PROSECUTED CAP.

METRO WAS CONDONING THEIR SEX OFFENDER BEHAVIOR AND COMMUNICATING THAT US TARGETED PASSENGERS MUST ACT OUTSIDE THE LAW TO STOP THEM BECAUSE CAP METRO IS UNWILLING OR UNABLE TO LEGALLY DO SO BECAUSE DEESCALATION TACTICS ENCOURAGED THEM TO WRONGLY PUSH FURTHER.

THEY ONLY RIGHTLY RESPOND TO STOPPING POWER GREATER THAN THEM.

THEREFORE, BECAUSE I PREVIOUSLY REPEATEDLY TESTIFIED ABOUT CAT METRO'S CRIMINALITY TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION WITH BACKUP MATERIAL EVIDENCE ON RECORD IT'S PAST TIME TO MAKE CAP METRO PUBLICLY SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THEIR PROCEDURES FOR REMOVING AND REPLACING DRIVERS, AS WELL AS THEIR HIRING PRACTICES, INCLUDING THEIR PRISON PIPELINE EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM WITH MV, FROM WHOM THEY SUBCONTRACT THEIR DRIVERS.

EX-CON DRIVERS MUST NOT BRING THEIR INSIDE BEHAVIOR OUTSIDE WHEN SERVING US ON THE BUS IN JESUS' NAME.

I PRAY.

AMEN.

THANK YOU, LORD.

GOD BLESS TEXAS.

THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, CONSTITUTIONAL LAW AND TRUTH AND ABOVE ALL GOD'S WORD ALMOST CM, BUDDY.

THANK YOU, MR. LEON.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP.

DO WE MS. JACKSON? I DON'T BELIEVE WE DO.

I THINK WE HAVE MR. NEXT, BUT I BELIEVE HE'S SPEAKING ON BUDGET LINE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WONDERFUL.

UH,

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 1ST MEETING.

UH, YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED, UH, COPIES

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OF YOUR MINUTES IN YOUR EMAIL, OR IS THERE ANY CONVERSATION, ANY QUESTIONS, ANY, UH, RESPONSE TO THE MINUTES BECAUSE OF NO DISCUSSION ON THE MEETING MINUTES, I'M GOING TO APPROVE THOSE AS WRITTEN.

FANTASTIC.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, NEXT

[2A. Vote on recommendation in support of Council Resolution No. 20190619-092, gaps and opportunities for improvements of mental health services for public safety first responders (sponsors: Commissioner Gonzales and Webber)]

ITEM OF BUSINESS AS WE GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY, UM, IS THE VOTE ON THE RECOMMENDATION IN SUPPORT OF COUNCIL RESOLUTION NUMBER TWO ZERO ONE NINE ZERO SIX ONE NINE DASH ZERO NINE TWO.

AND THAT IS GAPS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES PER OUR PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST RESPONDERS.

UH, YOU RECEIVED THE DRAFT OF THAT RESOLUTION.

I THANK YOU FOR PULLING IT UP ON SCREEN.

YOU RECEIVED THE DRAFT OF THAT RESOLUTION IN YOUR EMAIL.

I WILL OPEN IT UP TO ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER UP.

ARBELO PLEASE GO AHEAD.

UH, I JUST HAD ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

UM, THERE IS AN ITEM FOR INCREASED FUNDING ALLOCATION FOR DR.

TANYA GLENN.

UM, I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANYONE THAT COULD SPEAK TO THE CURRENT ALLOCATION AND THE GUESTS, THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT ALLOCATION IS CURRENTLY INSUFFICIENT, UH, IF THERE IS A NEED FOR MORE ALLOCATION IS WE'RE ALREADY USING UP ALL THE ALLOCATED FUNDS OR IF THERE'S CURRENTLY, UH, JUST NOT ENOUGH DEMAND ON THE PART OF FIRST RESPONDERS TO USE THOSE, THOSE, UH, THOSE RESOURCES ALLOTTED TO DR.

GLENN, UH, THIS, UH, BROWN.

CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT PLEASE? THANK YOU.

HI, THIS IS JASPER BROWN, CHIEF OF STAFF OR ACROSS THE TRAVIS COUNTY EMS. UM, YES, WE WERE LIKE TO EXPAND THE AMOUNT OF SERVICES WE HAVE WITH DR.

GLENN.

UM, SHE IS JUST ONE, UH, INDIVIDUAL THAT WE USE EXTERNALLY.

WE, UM, ALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS, UH, EITHER SHARE OR HAVE, UM, PSYCHOLOGISTS ON STAFF, BUT SHE IS AN OUTSIDE AGENCY AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, UH, SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES TO THE STAFF WHO WANT TO USE THAT SERVICE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LANE, GO AHEAD.

I HAVEN'T CHECKED MY MIC.

CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES.

UH, CHAIR, I I'VE, UH, BEEN REVIEWING SOME PRETTY CONCERNING REPORTS FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING ON THE STREETS SINCE THE ICE STORM.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO THEM, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, I'D LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT OTHER ADDITIONAL SUPPORT THERE IS OTHER THAN TALK THERAPY, WHAT OTHER THINGS WE'VE BEEN, UH, POTENTIALLY ADDING OR CONSIDERING ADDING, UM, BECAUSE AS FAR AS I CAN TELL FROM SOME FOLKS, WE HAVE PEOPLE SPENDING OUT OF THEIR OWN MONEY TO GET ADDITIONAL CARE.

UH, SO I AM UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS MAY BE INSUFFICIENT.

SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MAY NEED TO BE ADDITIONALLY ADDED TO THIS, UH, BEFORE WE, WE SENT IT ON.

IS THAT OKAY TO ASK? SO, UM, ACTUALLY WHAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL COMMISSIONER LANE IS IF YOU HAVE VERY SPECIFIC POINTS THAT YOU FEEL SHOULD BE ADDED, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT, UM, WASN'T ASKED FOR IN THE PRESENTATION THAT WE COULD ADD AT THIS POINT? OR ARE YOU JUST, UH, IF I, IF I COULD JUST REAL QUICK READ THE QUICK A BIT OF NEEDS IDENTIFIED THAT I'VE SEEN AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS SOMEWHERE IN THERE, OR MAYBE IT CAN GET, UH, IT'LL BE VERY SHORT CHAIR.

GO AHEAD.

SURE.

THE NEEDS THAT I'VE HEARD SO FAR, UM, UH, FROM A DEPARTMENTAL STANDPOINT THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED OUR BOXES, RETURNING YAK TRACKS, SNOW CHAINS, WARM UNIFORM, CLOTHING, CASH, COMMUNICATION STAFF, SHORTAGE, SUPPORT KITTY LITTER ON ALL TRUCKS, SLEEPING BAGS, GENERATORS, A TANGIBLE PREPLAN FROM EXECUTIVE STAFF, FOUR BY FOUR EXTRACTION VEHICLES FOR PATIENT ACCESS AND EXTRACTION, LARGE RECOVERY VEHICLES FOR VEHICLE EXTRACTION, OPTIONAL PERSONNEL TO BE PICKED UP TO HELP WITH PICKUPS FOR SHIFTS, LODGING FOR PERSONAL WORKING THROUGH THE WEEK.

SORRY, GO AHEAD.

SORRY, GO AHEAD.

OH, I THOUGHT SOMEONE I'M ALMOST DONE, UM, EMERGENCY STAFFING PLANS, UH, MORE COMMUNICATION BEFOREHAND, UH, OF MAJOR EVENTS.

UM, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE SOME PERSONAL CARE, LIKE, UH, THINGS THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD US TALK ABOUT, LIKE, UH, UH, BODY CARE.

SO LIKE POST-INJURY, UH, CARE STUFF THAT THEY CAN DO, BUT THEY'RE COMING OUT OF POCKET FOR, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S WHAT'S COVERED OR WHAT KIND OF THINGS WE CAN DO TO HELP PEOPLE FEEL MORE PREPARED, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE COMMUNICATION AND AFTERCARE

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COMMISSIONER LANE.

SO I UNDERSTAND THESE ARE VALID CONCERNS AND ADDITIONS THAT WE'D LIKE TO MAKE.

WE NEED TO KEEP THIS WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

AND I MIGHT'VE HEARD ONE OR TWO THINGS IN THERE THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY AROUND MENTAL HEALTH.

IF WE NEED TO BLOW IT UP PAST MENTAL HEALTH IS KIND OF GOES AGAINST THE, UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS AND HAVE THEM INTRODUCED AS ANOTHER TOPIC THAT WE DISCUSS, BUT I'D LOVE TO KEEP IT SPECIFICALLY TO THE MENTAL HEALTH, UM, GAPS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT SPECIFICALLY IN THAT LIST THAT YOU FEEL BELONGS IN THE MENTAL HEALTH SPACE.

YEAH, THOSE LAST COUPLE THAT I MENTIONED, I THINK THE, UH, THE LODGING, UH, THE, SOME OF THE EXTRA EXTRA COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, GETTING TO AND FROM WORK, I THINK THAT THIS MIGHT BE COVERED IN OTHER STUFF.

SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE CAN GET MORE ACCESS TO THINGS THAT AREN'T TALK THERAPY, BUT THEY HAVE TO USE FOR THEIR OTHER CARE.

SO I THINK THAT THIS IS LIKE A QUALITY OF LIFE QUESTION, WHICH I THINK FALLS UNDER MENTAL HEALTH.

SO CHIEF BROWN, UM, DR.

PAULSON IS ALSO ONLINE.

DO YOU FEEL LIKE THEY COULD ADD SOMETHING TO THIS CONVERSATION? I'M TRYING TO NAIL THOSE QUESTIONS, SO SURE.

UM, ALMOST ALL THE ENTIRE LIST THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ELAINE READ.

UM, WE MET WITH THE ASSOCIATION AND THOSE WERE ALL FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM THE ASSOCIATION IN THE WORKFORCE, ALL THOSE ITEMS, AS FAR AS WINTER BOXES AND A LOT OF THE, UM, EX YOU KNOW, UNIFORMS, YAK, TRACKS, UM, EMORY'S MEALS, LODGING, ALL THOSE THINGS AS WE'RE DOING AN AFTER ACTION ON THE ICE STORM.

I THINK ALL OF THAT CAME FROM THE ICE STORM, UM, ITSELF.

UM, AND THERE'S STILL MORE AFTER ACTION.

WE HAVE WITH THE, UM, UH, OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UM, FOLKS, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT GET HOTEL ROOMS AND LARGE BLOCKS FOR US AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THERE'S MORE TO FOLLOW ON THAT, BUT WE'RE ALREADY WORKING THROUGH THAT LIST OF ITEMS AND WE'LL HAVE THAT, UM, THE MAJORITY OR THE NEXT A SEASONAL EVENT OCCURS.

ALL RIGHT.

AWESOME.

YOU ARE NOT CONNECTED TO, TO VOLUME.

I CAN, I CAN SEE YOU ON CAMERA, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN HEAR YOU.

OKAY.

CAN WE TRY IT? I'VE GOT THE UNMUTE, JUST TO JUST A QUICK RESPONSE.

I BELIEVE SOME OF THE ISSUES ABOUT, UM, UH, TALK THERAPY, DIFFERENT TYPES OF THERAPY WHEN, WHEN WE LIST THINGS LIKE SPECIALIZED TRAINING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY LEADERSHIP, UM, AND FIRST RESPONDERS, I THINK SOME OF THAT TRAINING MIGHT BRING TO LIGHT, UM, WHICH TYPES OF THERAPY WORK BEST.

UM, AND THEN THE ITEM ABOUT, UH, SOCIAL JUSTICE INFORMED MENTAL HEALTH CARE, UM, THAT MIGHT ALSO BRING TO LIGHT YOUR, YOUR POINT ABOUT CERTAIN TYPES OF THERAPY.

SO I'M HOPING YOU CAN FEEL THAT THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THOSE BULLET POINTS.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. WEBER, PLEASE.

WILL YOU, UM, JUST EXPLAIN TO ME WHO WROTE THIS DOCUMENT AND THE BULLET POINTS LIKE ARE CLEARLY TAKEN FROM SOMETHING, WHAT THAT SOMETHING IS CORRECT.

SO THIS WAS THE, UM, THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO US IN FEBRUARY, AND THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT PRESENTATION.

AND SO, UM, I'M JUST NOT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE DR.

PAULSON IS TALKING ABOUT IT AND ALL, SO CHIEF BROWN, LIKE, IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE ASKING US TO SUPPORT THAT THEY, THE, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, RAY ARIANA, UM, HAD HIS, UH, EXECUTIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, HIS, UH, PATRICIA BORDAIN, UM, GO THROUGH AND MEET WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

AND THEN WE, THE THREE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS CAME TOGETHER AND MET, AND THESE BULLETS ARE THE RESULTS OF THOSE MEETINGS.

SO THEY ARE A REFLECTION OF A CONVERSATION HELD AMONGST THE THREE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.

DOES THAT ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION? RIGHT.

IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN THIS, THESE WERE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US IN THAT, UH, WHEN PATRICIA AND DR.

PAULSON WERE ON THE LINE LAST TIME.

OKAY.

SO THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING, IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY MANAGER IMPLEMENT THESE POLICIES MORE OR LESS.

AND WE, AS THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE CONCUR THAT YOU SHOULD IMPLEMENT THESE POLICIES.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE UNNECESSARY, I GUESS, BUT I, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT HELPS FOR DIFFERENT GROUPS TO SIGN ON.

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SO PART OF THE RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL WAS TO GO TO DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS WITH THE REPORT AND GET THEIR SUPPORT, THUMBS UP, THUMBS DOWN.

OKAY.

UM, LET ME SEE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE, SORRY, I CAN'T, IF DO ALL LIVE, UH, COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ, PLEASE.

I JUST HAD, UM, I WAS TRYING TO LISTEN TO, UH, COMMISSIONER LANE SUGGESTION AND HE TALKED ABOUT POST-INJURY CARE.

UM, AND I LIKED THE IDEA OF IF THERE IS ROOM IN THIS LIST TO ADD SOMETHING THAT WOULD MORE CLOSELY TIE A GUARANTEE OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES BEING EXTENDED DURING POST-INJURY CARE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW SEPARATE THOSE PROCESSES ARE RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE CONNECTED WOULD HELP GUARANTEE THAT THEY'RE GETTING THEM DURING POST-INJURY CARE, I THINK.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER, UH, UM, DR.

PAULSON, IS THAT, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING, UH, JUST ASKING YOUR OPINION ON THE POST-INJURY CARE, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE CALL OUT ON THAT IS IT WAS SOMETHING, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MENTIONED.

AND WHEN I LOOKED THROUGH HERE, IT'S NOT AS CLEAR IN THESE BULLETS.

UM, SO IT WAS MENTIONED BY THE, UM, UH, PARTICULARLY BY THE PSYCHOLOGISTS THAT THEY SAW A DISTANCING AMONGST PERSONS WHO WERE INJURED, UM, AS THEY WERE AT HOME RE UH, YOU KNOW, REHABBING.

SO I THINK IF YOU ADDED THAT BULLET ON THERE, IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE WELCOMED BY THE TEAM.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, I AM TAKING A NOTE TO ADD THAT TO THE LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION, BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE, UH, COMMISSIONER LINCOLN.

UH, I NOTICED THAT WE FADE THE REVISIT DEPARTMENT UNTIL POLICIES TO ACCEPT THE USE OF CBD OIL FOR FIRST RESPONDERS.

UM, I WOULD THINK THAT THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SOME CLARITY THERE BECAUSE OF, UM, MEDICINAL, UM, OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST.

UM, AND SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHY CBD OIL WAS EXPLICITLY NAMED, UH, BUT NO OTHER, UH, POSSIBLY PRESCRIBED OPTION CHIEF BROWN OR DR.

PAULSON.

I THINK ONE OF THE, THAT THE CHIEFS WERE IN THE MEETING WHEN THAT SUGGESTION WAS MADE.

SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE BETTER RESPONDED TO, BY ONE OF THE CHIEFS.

MY RECOLLECTION COMES FROM THE MEETINGS THAT THAT SPECIFICALLY CAME FROM, UM, UH, THE ASSOCIATIONS AND UNIONS, AND IT'S MORE THE, UH, POTENTIAL CHANGES.

AND IT SHOULDN'T WITH THE AMOUNT OF, UH, ANY THC IN SOME NEW, UH, EITHER HEMP OIL OR CBD CBD OIL.

AND, UM, THE ONLY KIRK POLICY I KNOW THE EMS HAS, AND I BELIEVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS IS, UH, UM, YOU CAN USE TPU WELL, BUT, UM, THERE, YOU YOU'D JUST BE AWARE.

I MEAN, YOU CAN BUY CBD OIL AT A GAS STATION GUARANTEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, THE SUBSTANCES ARE IN IT.

UH, WE CURRENTLY ONLY TEST FOR THC, UM, UH, IN OUR RANDOM DRUG SCREENING.

AND SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S THC ISN'T APPARENTLY.

AND SO A BIT POPS POSITIVE AS COUNSELOR DATE AND I POSITIVE TEST RESULTS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATION MADE SOME CHANGES, UH, ABOUT KEMP AND IN CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF POINT, I THINK IS 0.03 DON'T PLEASE DON'T QUOTE ALL THIS INFORMATION.

UM, SO THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT, UH, MAKING SURE PEOPLE COULD USE CBD AND, YOU KNOW, IN A MEDICINAL WAY FOR ACHES AND PAINS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT IT'S GOOD FOR AND, AND, AND STAY CLEAR OF, UH, UH, ANY, UH, POTENTIAL POSITIVE, UH, OUTCOMES IN A DRUG SCREENING.

THIS IS ROB MYERS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UH, I'LL ECHO THE SAME THING THAT CHIEF BROWN MENTIONED THE INABILITY TO DECIPHER AT LEAST TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE USE OF MARIJUANA RECREATIONALLY AND CBD OIL, UH, FOR MEDICINAL PURPOSES, WHEN IT COMES TO RANDOM DRUG SCREENING WAS PART OF OUR CONCERNS.

AND WE DID SEND A NOTICE OUT TO OUR DEPARTMENT, JUST MAKING PEOPLE AWARE, BECAUSE THERE'S NO REGULATION OVER CBD OIL.

UM, AND THERE'S NOT THE ABILITY TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE THAT WE WANTED FOLKS TO BE INFORMED ON THAT.

SO I THINK THIS IS, UH, REVISITING THAT AND WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE DONE

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IN THAT ARENA COMMISSIONER LANE? IS THAT OKAY? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? UH, THAT'LL WORK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONER WEBER.

UM, I WAS JUST THINKING ALONG THOSE LINES OF TESTING FIRST RESPONDERS FOR CBD, UH, OR FOR THC, RATHER DO EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS TEST FOR PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS WHEN THEY DO THE RANDOM SCREENINGS.

THIS IS ROB WE'VE GOT, I THINK THERE'S FIVE SPECIFIC.

I DON'T KNOW MY TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THE, THE RANDOM DRUG SCREENING TESTS FOR FIVE OR SIX, UH, UH, SUBSTANCES IN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW THE PERFORMANCE ENHANCING IS ONE OF THEM.

WE DO NOT BESIDES THE DLT, UH, UM, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION LIST FOR, UH, DRUG TESTING.

WE TEST FOR WHAT WE CARRY INSIDE THE UNITS.

WHAT'S THE ONLY THING OUTSIDE OF THAT, BUT IT'S NOT PERFORMANCE ENHANCING.

SO, UH, TO CLARIFY CHIEF BROWN, YOU TEST FOR NARCOTICS OR CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES THAT ARE IN, THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE ON LIKE, BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THEIR WORK AND THC.

YES, THC.

UM, THERE'S A, THE SAME FIVE AT THE, PROBABLY TWO BUYERS MENTIONS IN THERE.

LIKE I SAID, ANYTHING SPECIAL, WE CARRY ON THE UNIT THAT'S, UH, CONSIDERED A NARCOTIC OR BENZOATE AS BEING.

AND WHAT ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? YES, MA'AM WE DO THE SAME FIVE PANEL, BUT WE ALSO RANDOMLY TEST FOR STEROIDS.

SO IN EVERY RANDOM TEST, YOU TEST FOR THE FIVE MAIN CATEGORIES, PLUS YOU ADD IN PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS YES.

ON ANOTHER RANDOMIZED.

SO IT'S NOT ON THE SAME SCHEDULE OF THE, OF THE NORMAL FIVE PANEL, BUT WE DO RANDOMLY TEST FOR THE, UH, PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENTS, A STEROID AS WELL.

AND I CAN GET THAT, UH, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT, UH, IS PART OF OUR, OUR TESTING PROCEDURES.

I THINK IT'S MAYBE WORTH CHAIR AND AN AGENDA ITEM IN THE FUTURE.

I TH I FIND IT, UH, LIKE, LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WRONG THING WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING FIRST RESPONDERS WHOSE JOBS ARE DIFFICULT AND TRAUMATIC AND PHYSICALLY EXHAUSTING TO USE A, YOU KNOW, A LEGAL SUBSTANCE THAT IS PRESCRIBED BY DOCTORS.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I WONDER IF WE SHOULD ALSO BE TALKING ABOUT THE ABUSE OF OTHER, YOU KNOW, PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS, I GUESS, COULD EVEN JUST BE TAKING, YOU KNOW, A TESTOSTERONE SUPPLEMENT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE WRONG THING HERE BY TALKING ABOUT CBD, LIKE IT, LIKE, I'M PRETTY SURE WE ALL AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BE OKAY.

UM, STOP YOU FOR ONE SECOND.

THIS IS LITERALLY THE, WHAT THE, UM, WHAT THE GROUP HAS ASKED US TO SUPPORT WE CAN ADD IN, OR TAKE OUT WHAT WE DON'T AND WHAT WE THINK IS, YOU KNOW, NORMAL AND SHOULD BE USED IS, IS, IS DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IF IT'S AGAINST DEPARTMENTAL POLICIES.

SO, YEAH.

AND SO, BUT LIKE, OKAY, I TAKE YOUR POINT SHARE, BUT SO IF THE CHIEFS THINK THAT THEY SHOULD REVISIT DEPARTMENTAL POLICY TO MAKE IT OKAY FOR FIRST RESPONDERS TO USE CBD OIL, JUST DO IT.

LIKE, I JUST, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE EVEN HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT, I GUESS, BUT MAYBE THAT'S GOING BACK AGAIN TO THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS.

I MEAN, IF YOU WANT IT, LIKE SHE FRIENDS JUST CHANGE THE POLICY, RIGHT? LIKE, WHAT'S, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED TO KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING IN THEIR CREDIT PROCESS.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU CAN SHED LIGHT ON IT.

THERE WE GO.

UM, SO YOU DON'T HAVE A POLICY AGAIN AGAINST CBD OIL.

UM, WHAT WE HAVE IS A POLICY AGAINST ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES, WHICH IS TH ALL THE WE'VE SET OUT TO OUR STAFF, MUCH, LIKE I BELIEVE THE OTHER DEPARTMENT IS BE AWARE OF WHERE YOU GET YOUR CBD WELL FROM, UM, IF IT'S PRESCRIBED BY, YOU CAN GET FROM A DOCTOR'S OFFICE, I AM RELATIVELY SURE IT'S SAFE AND, AND EVERYTHING, BUT THERE'S NO REGULATION ON CBD MANUFACTURER.

AND SO IF YOU SHE'LL POP, WE DON'T HAVE

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A WAY OF DISCERNING OR THAT CAME FROM MARIJUANA OR CBD OIL.

SO, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A RESTRICTION AGAINST CBD OIL.

SO THERE'S NO CHANGING ON THE POLICY.

IT'S A TESTING.

MATTER OF BEING ABLE TO TEST FOR, UM, AMOUNTS OF THC OR NOT, RIGHT NOW, IT'S EITHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, AND THAT'S PLASTIC LANGUAGE OF IT.

UM, THIS SPECIFICALLY CAME FROM THE ASSOCIATIONS, UH, AND I KNOW SUPPORTED, UM, BY THE ASSOCIATIONS.

AND IT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO LOOK AT, SEE HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO USE WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT, UH, TESTING POSITIVE FOR THC.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL.

SO IS IT FAIR TO SAY CHIEF BROWN THAT, UH, YOUR DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP'S POSITION IS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE CBD OIL? AND MAYBE I WAS JUST MISUNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE DEBATING THAT, LIKE, DO WE ALL THE CHIEFS ALL AGREE ON THAT? YEAH, I, I DON'T DOUBT, UH, WHEN, OF COURSE I DON'T HAVE ANY RESEARCH ON IT EITHER OF ITS EFFICACIES OR THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE UTILIZE IT.

AND I THINK PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THINGS THAT ARE NOT, UM, REGULAR MEDICATIONS.

SO WHETHER IT'S HOLISTIC MEDICATIONS OR NOT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, I'VE SEEN SEATS SOLD IN CORNER DRUG STORES AT GUNSHOTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM, AND PEOPLE JUST NEED TO BE AWARE OF WHAT YOU PUT IN YOUR BODY.

AND YOU CAN'T UTILIZE THAT AS AN EXCUSES IF YOU CURRENTLY POP POSITIVE ON A T ON A DRUG SCREENING.

SO WE LOOKING AT IT TO BE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN USE THESE OTHER MEDICATIONS THAT ARE, SEEM TO BE HELPFUL.

AND, UM, I QUITE, I USE THEM ON MY ELDERLY DOG.

I MEAN, IF PEOPLE USE THEM FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE AND, AND, AND PEOPLE ARE, UM, TAKE A BODY, THEY SHOULDN'T.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, CHIEF BROWN, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? CONCERNS? ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, IF WE ADD A, A POINT ABOUT THE POST-INJURY CARE, UH, INTO SUPPORT OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, SO IT WILL BE AS WRITTEN, AND THEN I WILL WRITE UP ANOTHER BULLET ABOUT POST-INJURY CARE AND MENTAL HEALTH.

UM, I WILL GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL FOR THE BOOK.

GIVE ME ONE SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, CHAIR WEBER.

YES.

MA'AM OR WE'RE VOTING.

OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS LIKE AN I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST THIS.

UM, FOR THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE REASONS THAT I, I ALREADY SAID, WHICH IS, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER, DOESN'T JUST DO THESE THINGS.

LIKE WHY, WHY ARE WE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS? AND THEN ALSO, I DON'T BELIEVE I JUST, I DON'T LIKE THE PROVISION ABOUT REVISITING POLICIES ON CBD IT'S TOO LOOSEY GOOSEY.

AND I'M STILL CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT THE ACTUAL POLICY IS RIGHT NOW AND WHAT THE REVISITING MEANS.

SO I'M GONNA VOTE AGAINST IT.

OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSE AND FLUFF FOR COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ FOR COMMISSIONER LANE FOR COMMISSIONER SARAH, HONORABLE BOLO FOR COMMISSIONER BERNHARDT, AND I WILL VOTE FOR AS WELL.

I BELIEVE THAT IS EVERYONE ON.

SO THE MOTION TO SUPPORT, UH, PASSES, UH, 61.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

CHAIR CHAM.

YES.

BEFORE WE GO FORWARD, UH, COULD I GET WHO SECOND THE MOTION PLEASE? OH, I'M SORRY.

I DID NOT TAKE A SECOND.

I APOLOGIZE.

THAT'S OKAY.

COULD WE GET ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS TO A SECOND EMOTION COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ.

THANK YOU.

SORRY.

SO IN A RUSH TO GET, KEEP US ON TIME.

I FORGOT TO GET THAT SECOND.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

[3A. Public Safety Organizations Quarterly Report – Austin Police Department (sponsors: Commissioner Hausenfluck and Gonzales)]

UM, MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS, WE HAVE THE APD QUARTERLY REPORT FROM CHIEF GATE.

HELLO COMMISSIONERS, UH, TROY GATES, CHIEF OF STAFF.

AS SOON AS THE PRESENTATION COMES UP, I'LL GET STARTED.

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I'M GOING TO GO OVER THE, OUR RESPONSE TIMES AS WELL AS OUR BUDGET, UH, OUR CURRENT STAFFING AND COVID-19 DATA.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS FOR OUR QUARTER ONE OF 21 THROUGH OCTOBER THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER, AS YOU CAN SEE OUR TARGET FOR OUR URGENT EMERGENCY CALLS ARE EIGHT MINUTES AND 24 SECONDS.

UH, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT RIGHT NOW AT NINE 21.

I THINK THAT THAT IS MAINLY DUE TO SOME OF OUR STAFFING CONCERNS, BUT, UH, WE ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER OUR TARGET.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THIS JUST BASICALLY COVERS ALL OF THE DIS THE DIFFERENT COUNCIL DISTRICTS.

WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE REGARDING, UM, ANY OF THE RESPONSE TIMES IN THEIR COUNCIL AREA? OKAY, NEXT SLIDE.

RIGHT.

THIS IS OVERTIME, UH, CURRENTLY OUR OVERTIME BUDGET FOR THE YEAR.

UH, IT WAS, UH, CUT A LITTLE BIT THIS YEAR.

UH, WE HAD A LITTLE OVER THREE AND A HALF MILLION.

UH, WE HAVE CURRENTLY SPENT ON OVERTIME OF 4.9 MILLION AND WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE BUDGET YEAR.

SO WE ANTICIPATE THAT, UH, WE WILL BE, UH, UH, GOING OVER, UH, EXTENSIVELY IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

UH, NEXT BUDGET.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, OUR CURRENT AUTHORIZED RINK IS 1809.

UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 107 VACANCIES.

UH, CURRENTLY WE DO NOT HAVE AN ACADEMY CLASS SCHEDULED THIS TIME.

I DO KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE A COUNCIL ITEM FOR A POTENTIAL ACADEMY TO START, UH, SOMETIME, UH, THIS BUDGET YEAR, BUT THAT'S STILL, UH, HA NEEDS TO BE SET TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, OUR COVID-19 DATA.

THIS IS A GOOD NEWS.

AS YOU CAN SEE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE SWORN IN THREE CIVILIAN THAT ARE CURRENTLY OFF DUE TO, UH, COVID.

UH, OUR NUMBERS HAVE, UH, EXTREMELY WENT DOWN.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANY, UH, QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ON THE COVID DATA.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THAT IS, WE HAD A QUESTION.

OH, GO AHEAD.

YES.

MA'AM UM, CHART ENCOMPASS, ANYTHING TO DO WITH VACCINES? ARE YOU TRACKING THE PERCENTAGE OF YOUR, UH, WORKS MORE WORKFORCE WHO HAVE GOTTEN VACCINATED? UH, WE DO, UH, I DON'T HAVE THE, UH, EXACT, UH, I DO THINK WE'RE APPROXIMATELY BETWEEN 70% OF OUR WORKFORCE THAT HAS BEEN VACCINATED.

UH, BUT I WILL, UH, I WILL FIND OUT THAT INFORMATION AND SEND IT TO THE, UH, THE COMMISSION VIA EMAIL.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I THINK CHAIR, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT SHOULD BE ANOTHER METRIC MAYBE THAT WE TRACK AND QUARTERLY REPORTS SWORN AND UNSWORN.

I MEAN, I, I PARTICULARLY, I GUESS CONCERNED ABOUT SWORN BECAUSE I, I HAVE THE SENSE THAT THEY INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC MORE OFTEN, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE, UM, CERTAIN UNSWORN JOBS WITH THE INTERACTIVE PUBLIC ALL THE TIME.

UM, BUT I THINK IT IT'S, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW THAT YES, MA'AM, I'LL, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDED AND I'M SURE THE OTHER TWO PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES ARE LISTENING AND THEY'LL ADD IT TO THE NEXT REPORTS, CHIEF JAY, UM, IF SOMEONE HAD A REPORTER HAD MESSAGED ME AND ASKED ME ABOUT A 49% VACCINATION RATE OF APD SWORN, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

YOU KNOW WHAT I, LIKE I SAID, I WAS, I WAS DOING SOME APPROXIMATIONS, SO I WILL, UH, I'LL GET YOU THAT NUMBER, UH, THAT IS, I KNOW WHEN WE DID A SURVEY, WE HAD A REAL HIGH NUMBER OF THOSE THAT SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE IT.

SO LET ME SEE WHAT THE EXACT NUMBER TO DATE THAT WE HAVE, AND I'LL PROVIDE THAT NUMBER TO YOU.

AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHETHER ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE ANY POLICY ABOUT VACCINES.

UH, I CAN TELL YOU, APD DOES NOT HAVE ONE THAT IT'S MANDATED, IT'S A VOLUNTEER BASIS.

I CAN SPEAK FOR THE AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THE, UH, THE DIRECTION WE GOT FROM THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR WAS THE VACCINES ARE NOT REQUIRED.

SO THEY'RE VOLUNTARY.

WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU, CHIEF FIRES.

AND ARE YOU GOING TO TRACK, LIKE HOW MANY

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OF YOUR SWORN ARE VACCINATED OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS PEOPLE'S PERSONAL BUSINESS? RIGHT.

WELL, SO THE, UH, WE ARE KEEPING TRACK AS BEST WE CAN, UH, FOLKS ARE ABLE TO GET THEIR VACCINATIONS THROUGH US AND THEY CAN ALSO DO INDEPENDENTLY ON THEIR OWN.

SO THE NUMBERS WE GET WILL BE BASED ON, ON OUR BEST UNDERSTANDING BASED ON WHAT FOLKS HAVE SHARED RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE WERE IN ABOUT THE 65% RANGE FOR OUR SWORN MEMBERS.

HAVEN'T BEEN VACCINATED, BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT TO BE AN ACCURATE NUMBER BECAUSE IF SOMEONE'S CHOOSING TO OWN THEIR OWN AND DOESN'T WANT TO, THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN WHILE WE'RE? YEAH, WE'RE, UH, UM, WE'RE ABOUT 85% VACCINATED.

UM, SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS GOT VACCINATED, UM, OTHER THAN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY WELLNESS CENTER, BUT HAVE RESPONDED.

THEY ARE VACCINATED.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR PROOF OF THOSE RECORDS, UM, JUST THAT THEY TOLD US THEY ARE VACCINATED.

UM, AND, UM, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY MANDATORY.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, CHIEF BROWN, YOU WILL HAVE THE NEXT SLOT, UH, FOR UPDATES.

SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE MAKE SURE AND UPDATE THOSE NUMBERS FOR US ON YOUR REPORT NEXT TIME.

THAT'S GREAT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D GET, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER FLIGHT OR WAS THAT YOUR FINAL ONE? ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER HOUSE AND FLOOD, PLEASE.

I HAVE A QUESTION BACK ON THE OVERTIME, SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT BUDGETING HERE IN A SECOND.

UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF IDEA OF WHAT LEVEL THE BREAKDOWN THAT OVERTIME WAS COMING FROM? UM, I GUESS ANY KIND OF IDEA OF LEVEL AS WELL AS WHAT TYPE OF SERVICES IS CAUSING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ADDITIONAL OVERTIME, OR IS IT JUST ALL ACROSS THE BOARD? UH, IT'S BASICALLY ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.

WE USUALLY, UH, ARE AVERAGING ABOUT 12 MILLION A YEAR.

UM, UH, WE HAVE ONLY BEEN BUDGETED IN THE PAST A LITTLE LESS THAN 9 MILLION.

UH, SO WE'VE HAD TO USE COST SAVINGS OR OTHER, UH, MEASURES TO COVER THAT OVERTIME COSTS, UH, DUE TO SOME, UH, BUDGET CUTS, UH, FROM LAST YEAR, UH, WE WERE REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, IN OUR OVERTIME.

SO, UH, BUT THE DEMANDS ARE, ARE STILL THE SAME.

SO THIS IS LATE CALLS.

THIS IS OUR SPECIAL OPERATIONS, UH, CALL OUTS, UH, UH, ARE BACKFILLING ON VACANCIES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THE ENCOMPASS, THIS OVERTIME.

I I'M SURE THAT I CAN GIVE YOU ALL A BREAKDOWN OF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN.

WELL, I WAS ALSO JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT IT FROM A MONETARY STANDPOINT, AS WELL AS WANTING TO HEAR ABOUT MAYBE THE STRESS IT'S PUTTING ON THE CURRENT OFFICERS, UM, THAT ARE WORKING THE OVERTIME.

AND IF YOU CAN SPEAK ON THAT, UH, STAFFING IS OF GREAT CONCERN FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.

I DO KNOW THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE, OF COURSE WE DON'T MANDATE.

THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT, UH, WE VOLUNTARILY ASK PEOPLE TO SIGN UP.

UH, BUT I DO KNOW THAT WE AT TIMES ARE STRUGGLING TO GET PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR THE OVERTIME SLOTS, UH, BECAUSE IT, UH, IT IS TAKING A, A, A TOLL ON OUR OFFICERS OF, UH, HAVING TO WORK THE ADDITIONAL HOURS.

I HOPE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

YEAH.

SO THERE'S BEEN SOME INTERESTING REPORTING ABOUT THE COST IN POLICE OVERTIME OF THE BLACK LIVES MATTERS PROTESTS OVER THE SUMMER.

AND SO I'M WONDERING, DO YOU, UM, DID THAT, THOSE CALL-OUTS AFFECT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU JUST SHOWED US OR WAS MOST OF THAT ON THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S BUDGET? IT WAS ON THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S BUDGET.

THIS IS FROM OCTOBER ONE UNTIL, UH, UH, PRESENT IF I COULD SHARE ONE OTHER THING.

I JUST, I THINK THAT IT, UM, THIS SLIDE ABOUT THE ACADEMY WAS A BIT MISLEADING.

SO I'VE LOOKED UP THE CITY MANAGERS, UM, LIKE PRESS RELEASE THAT WENT OUT MARCH 25TH.

IT SAYS THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE MANAGER'S BLUEPRINT FOR A RE-IMAGINED AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT CADET CLASS.

SO I THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING TO SAY THAT THERE IS NO ACADEMY ON THE HORIZON.

SO THE CITY MANAGER SAYS RESUMING THE ACADEMY ON JUNE 7TH.

SO THERE IS A, THERE IS ACTUALLY LIKE A TARGETED START DATE WAS ZOOMING THE ACADEMY ON JUNE 7TH, 2021 IS CONTINGENT UPON COMPLETION OF ALL THE STEPS IN THE CITY MANAGERS BLUEPRINT.

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SO THERE ARE STEPS TO BE TAKEN, BUT IT IS IN THE WORKS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WEBER.

AND THAT IS TRUE.

AND THE BUDGET HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED YET.

SO WE DO HAVE TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL AND GET THAT BUDGET APPROVED PRIOR TO US OFFICIALLY SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO START AN ACADEMY, BUT, BUT YES, UH, THAT IS THE BLUEPRINT AND WE HOPED THAT JUNE THE SEVENTH IS THE START DATE.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF GAYE? OH, NO WORRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, I NOTICED THAT, UH, INCOMING COMMISSIONER, AMANDA LEWIS HAS MADE IT IN THERE.

AMANDA, YOU ALL MIGHT REMEMBER AMANDA FROM THE COMMISSIONER OF WOMEN PRIOR.

AND, UM, DO YOU JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF REALLY QUICKLY WHILE WE HAVE A SECOND? SURE.

YES.

AMANDA LEWIS, I AM, I'M SERVING DOUBLE ON THE COMMISSION FOR WOMEN AND ON THIS COMMISSION, I JUST GOT MY PAPERWORK SIGNED AND WAS ABLE TO JOIN IN AND I LOOK FORWARD TO JUST, UM, LEARNING AND, UM, UH, GETTING TO KNOW Y'ALL AND I'M EXCITED TO SERVE ON THIS COMMISSION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

UM,

[3B. Public Safety Departments Budget Presentations for 2021-2022 (sponsors: Commissioner Webber and Gonzales)]

NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS OUR BUDGET PRESENTATIONS FROM EACH OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT'S GOING TO TAKE THE BULK OF THE REST OF THIS MEETING.

WE ARE GOING TO START WITH, IT LOOKS LIKE CHIEF BUYERS.

YOU'RE FIRST ON THE LIST.

SO WE'LL START WITH YOU.

AND, UM, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE MONITORING TO SEE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND WANT TO ASK WHILE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS AND A REMINDER THAT ALL BUDGETS ARE DUE ON MAY 7TH.

SO IF WE HAVE A, I REALLY WOULD LOVE US TO START THINKING ABOUT THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WILL PUT FORWARD AROUND THESE BUDGETS, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, AMY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

WHAT I MIGHT ASK, UH, THERE IS A POWERPOINT ALREADY SET UP THAT HAS ALL THREE AGENCIES IN IT, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST, UH, ON THAT POWERPOINT, IF, IF IT IS OKAY WITH YOU, UH, I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR TO, I THINK IT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FIRST.

THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.

WHEN YOU ARE IN THE PUB IN THE, UH, IN THE POWERPOINT IS FINE BY ME.

THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I'LL YIELD THE FLOOR TO THEM AND DR.

PAULSON TO DO THE PRESENTATION FOR FIRE RIGHT AFTER GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M MICHELLE SCHMIDT.

I'M THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER FOR THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT OUR FY 2122 BUDGET FORECAST.

UM, JUST A REMINDER.

THIS IS JUST A PRELIMINARY FORECAST IS STILL, IS UNDER REVIEW BY CITY MANAGER.

UM, AND LIKE GONZALEZ JUST SAID, THE PROPOSED BUDGET BY THE DEPARTMENTS IS NOT DUE UNTIL MAY 7TH.

SO THIS IS VERY PRELIMINARY AT THIS POINT.

EXCELLENT.

THIS IS A DEPARTMENT OVERVIEW OF THE TOTALS.

UM, THE APD GENERAL FUND BUDGET WAS APPROVED AT $292.9 MILLION.

UM, THAT INCLUDED A TOTAL OF 1,809 SWORN FTES 647 CIVILIAN FTES THE BUDGET BREAKDOWN BY PROGRAM.

UM, BUT BASICALLY OUT OF THAT 292.9 MILLION, 57% OF THAT, UM, IS BUDGETED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD BASED POLICING 19% FOR INVESTIGATIONS, 20% FOR TRANSFERS AND OTHER REQUIREMENTS, AND THEN 4% FOR OPERATIONS SUPPORT.

IN ADDITION TO THE APD GENERAL FUND BUDGET, UM, UNDER THE RE-IMAGINED PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDS FOR , THERE WAS ALSO THE DECOUPLE FUND, WHICH, UM, AFTER THE AMENDMENT TO REMOVE FORENSIC SCIENCE FUND OR TO CREATE THE FORENSIC SCIENCE FUND STANDS AT $64.6 MILLION AND THE RE-IMAGINED SAFETY FUND AT $45.1 MILLION.

AND THEN THE NEW FORENSIC SCIENCE FUNDED 11.9 MILLION, NEXT SLIDE, THE FYI 22 FORECAST.

UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT, VERY PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, UM, IS THE FORECAST BUDGET WOULD BE 302.7 MILLION FOR THE APD GENERAL FUND PORTION ON THIS IS NO INCREASE IN SWORN OR CIVILIAN FTES WITH THAT NUMBER.

THE HIGHLIGHTS, UM, IN THAT FORECAST DEVELOPMENT ARE THE PERSONNEL COST DRIVERS AND INCREASE OF 2.9 MILLION.

UM, THIS IS WARREN WAGE AND STEP PAY INCREASES.

UM, CIVILIAN AND SWORN PENSION

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INCREASES OFFSET BY AN INSURANCE REDUCTION, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF 2.9 MILLION OR INNER FUND TRANSFERS OF APPROXIMATELY 4.5 MILLION.

THAT INCLUDES 2.7 MILLION TO CTECH AND CTM 1.1 MILLION AND ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT, UM, 440,000 FOR FUEL AND MAINTENANCE, AND THEN RADIO WIRELESS ACCRUED PAYROLL WORKER'S COMP MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE UNDER CAPITAL AND NON-CAPITAL REPLACEMENT ITEMS. THERE'S AN INCREASE OF $1.7 MILLION.

UM, ONE POINT, UH, A LITTLE OVER A MILLION OF THAT IS THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE NEW RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT APD IS WORKING, UM, IN TANDEM WITH CTM, FOR IMPLEMENTATION ON, UM, THERE'S A $575,000 FOR, UM, A MANDATORY 5,000 HOUR MAINTENANCE TO ONE OF OUR HELICOPTERS.

THIS IS THE B3 HELICOPTER THAT WAS PURCHASED IN 2013 AND IT'S APPROACHING IT'S 5,000 HOUR MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS THE ENGINE OVERHAUL.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR BALLISTIC BEST REPLACEMENTS.

THE NEXT ITEM FOR CONTRACT AND OPERATING INCREASES OF $697,000.

THE BULK OF THAT IS $544,000 FOR THE BODY-WORN CAMERA TASER, UM, BUNDLE CONTRACTS, AND THEN $133,000.

AND OTHER CONTRACT INCREASES.

THIS INCLUDES A REQUEST FOR $70,000 FOR THE UT MEDICAL SCHOOL FOR SHARED PUBLIC SAFETY CONSULTING SERVICES FOR PSYCH PSYCHIATRIC CARE.

UM, AS WELL AS, UM, SOME TECHNOLOGY APPLICATIONS, UM, TECHNOLOGY CONTRACTS, AND THEN SOME RENT AND UTILITY, UM, CONTRACT INCREASES AS WELL.

THAT TOTAL INCREASED RIGHT NOW FOR THE APD GENERAL FUND.

UM, WITH ALL OF THOSE ITEMS IS 9.8 MILLION OR 3.3%.

NEXT SLIDE COUNCIL INITIATIVES AND BUDGET ITEMS THAT ARE STILL UNDER REVIEW, UM, IS AN INCREASE TO OUR SWORN OVER TIME OF 2.8 MILLION.

THIS IS TO FUND OVER TIME THAT'S NECESSARY DUE TO PATROL VACANCIES, UM, IN RESPONSE TO CALLS FOR SERVICE AND INCREASE TO OUR TERMINAL PAY BUDGET LINE ITEM.

THIS ITEM, UM, IS AT POINT, THE REQUEST IS AT 3.4 MILLION.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, APD FINANCE STAFF MYSELF IS WORKING WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE ON TO KIND OF BASICALLY BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN VACANCY SAVINGS AND THE INCREASED COSTS OF TERMINAL PAY, UM, RELATED TO THE INCREASED NUMBER OF OFFICERS, UM, THAT ARE RETIRING.

UM, THERE IS A REQUEST FOR 2.5 CIVILIAN FTES.

UM, TWO OF THESE ARE FOR OUR APDS DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION UNIT, UM, AND THEN A PART-TIME FTE FOR THE TRAINING ACADEMY TO, UM, AND THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION BY COLE AND ASSOCIATES.

AND THEN THERE IS A REQUEST FOR THE HELICOPTER REPLACEMENT AT $1.6 MILLION.

THIS IS TO REPLACE THE, UM, HELICOPTER THAT IS NOW 20 YEARS OLD, THE H ONE 20, UM, THIS WOULD BE A PURCHASE AND THEN A REPLACEMENT CREDITS.

AND SO THE BALANCE THAT THE COST OF THAT WOULD BE 1.6 MILLION.

SO THE TOTAL ITEMS UNDER REVIEW, UM, COME IN AT $8.1 MILLION, AND THAT CONCLUDES APDS PORTION OF THIS.

SO I'LL PAUSE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR SEE IF WE WANT TO DO THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION, UM, AND THEN QUESTIONS AT THE END.

I THINK I'D LIKE TO DO QUESTIONS RIGHT AFTER THE PRESENTATION.

SO WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THEIR TIME.

SO I WILL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS, VERY PD, MR. RAMIREZ, THERE WAS JUST THE, THERE WAS ADDITIONAL BREAKDOWN THAT YOU WENT OVER VERBALLY AND THE FORECAST HIGHLIGHTS, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT BREAKDOWN CAUSE WE JUST GOT THE VERY TOP LEVEL SORT OF CATEGORIES.

SO IF WE COULD PLEASE BE FORWARDED THOSE, THAT BREAKDOWN THAT SHE WENT THROUGH VERBALLY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS JUST, CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN TERMINAL PE SINCE I'M SORT OF NEW TO THIS? YES, THAT'S MANDATORY.

SORRY.

THAT'S A MANDATORY PAYOUT OF, UM, CERTAIN ACCRUED LEAVE BALANCES WHEN A CIVILIAN OR SWORN EMPLOYEE RETIRES FROM THE CITY IT'S ON THIS ONE SIDE AND THE CIVILIAN SIDE.

UM, AND THAT'S THE SWORN PART OF IT IS SET UP THROUGH THE MEETING CONFER CONTRACT, BUT IT'S A PAYOUT OF CERTAIN ACCRUED LEAVE BALANCES.

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SO THOSE AREN'T ALREADY STASHED SOMEWHERE IN THE PROCESS OF ACCRUING THAT MONEY.

LIKE IT, IT COMES UP OF, THERE'S NO LIKE ACCOUNT SOMEWHERE.

THAT'S ALREADY HOLDING THAT FOR TERMINAL PAY IF IT'S ALREADY ACCRUED.

UM, THAT'S CORRECT.

WE'RE CURRENTLY WE HAVE A BUDGET OF 4.5 MILLION, WHICH, UM, WAS FORMALLY KIND OF THE AVERAGE ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WOULD PAY OUT EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.

OUR THREE-YEAR AVERAGE IS HOVERING AROUND 8 MILLION THIS YEAR.

OUR EXPECTED ACTUAL IS 10.3 MILLION.

UM, SO WORKING WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE TO KIND OF INCREASE THAT BASE BUDGET NUMBER OF 4.5 MILLION TO GET IT, TO GET IT BACK IN LINE TO WHAT WE'RE REALLY PAYING OUT, COMMISSIONER HALSTON FLOCK, JUST TO FOLLOW UP TO THAT, THIS IS A GOOD POINT, UM, COMMISSIONER BERMUDEZ, BUT, UM, HOW DID WE ESTIMATE THAT SO INCORRECTLY, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WOULD, THAT THAT HAS NECESSARILY BEEN ESTIMATED INCORRECTLY.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BALANCE IT, UM, WITH THE VACANCY SAVINGS, UM, THIS PARTICULAR YEAR YOU'RE WITH OUR REDUCED BUDGET.

UM, AND LOOKING AT WHAT THAT THREE-YEAR AVERAGE HAS NOW INCREASED TO, UM, W WE'RE JUST GETTING TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE WORKING ON MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET ISSUE I'M IN YOUR BUDGET ISSUE.

AND SO TRYING TO STAY ON TOP OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BUDGETED CORRECTLY FOR FOR THAT NUMBER, ANY EMOTIONAL WEBER, PLEASE.

SO IS THIS, UM, HELICOPTER THAT'S ON THE WISHLIST, THE SAME HELICOPTER THAT COUNCIL CHOSE NOT TO REPLACE LAST YEAR, WHICH WE'RE JUST ASKING, WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO GUESS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT LAST YEAR WE DID, UM, ASK FOR REPLACEMENT FOR, UM, AT THAT POINT IT WAS 19 YEARS OLD.

WE'RE NOW, UM, AT THE 20 YEAR MARK ON IT, AND THIS IS THE SAME REQUEST.

YES.

COMMISSIONER, WHERE WERE YOU? DID YOU HAVE A UP, ARE YOU DONE? OH, I'M DONE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER BURNER, PLEASE.

HOW MANY HELICOPTERS DOES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE? WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE HELICOPTERS.

WE HAVE ONE THAT, UM, WE RECEIVED, UM, IT'S WE RECEIVED IT FROM THE LISA PROGRAM.

IT'S A 1994 BELL, TWO OH SIX.

WE HAVE THIS PARTICULAR ONE THAT WE PURCHASED IN 2001, WHICH IS NOW 20 YEARS OLD.

AND THEN WE HAVE ONE THAT WE PURCHASED IN 2013.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR THE MAINTENANCE MONEY THIS YEAR TO DO THE ENGINE OVERHAUL ON AND NEITHER QUESTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

AND WE'LL FORWARD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE? ALL RIGHT.

NEXT FIRE, CHIEF BUTTERS, AND THEN DUMPING PAULSON.

ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION AS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I WEAR MANY HATS AND NOW I'M GOING TO PUT MY BUDGET HAT, TAKE MY HR HAT OFF, PUT MY BUDGET HAT ON.

UM, SO IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, UH, THE CURRENT YEAR 2021, UH, WE HAVE $215.2 MILLION IN OUR APPROVED BUDGET.

UM, AND THAT COVERS THE POSITIONS, THE ROUGHLY 1200 SWORN AND 137 CIVILIANS.

THE CADET NUMBER VARIES DEPENDING ON HOW MANY CLASSES WE HAVE IN SESSION, AS YOU CAN SEE, APPROXIMATELY 66% GOES TO OPERATIONS OR EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

THOSE ARE THE FIRE STATIONS ALL OVER THE CITY AND THE PERSONNEL THAT ARE IN THOSE STATIONS.

THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET INCLUDE A MILLION FOR ANNUALIZED STAFFING FOR THE FIRE STATION IN DEL VALLEY.

ANNUALIZED STAFFING IS WHEN WE RECEIVED PARTIAL FUNDING THE YEAR BEFORE, AND THIS YEAR WE'RE GETTING THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR'S FUNDING.

SO THAT THE YEAR AFTER THIS, THERE'S A WHOLE YEAR AMOUNT IN THE, IN THE ACTUAL BUDGET, IN THE, IN THE OPERATING BUDGET, UM, THE, UH, BUDGET, THE 858 IS A PARTIAL YEAR STAFFING AND EQUIPMENT FOR A NEW STATION IN TRAVIS COUNTRY THAT WILL OPEN ROUGHLY IN JULY.

THAT FUNDING IS FOR ABOUT NINE PAY PERIODS, ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF MONTHS, UM, TO GET THEM STARTED THIS YEAR.

EACH TIME WE OPEN A STATION, WE DO SO WITH 16 POSITIONS, UH, IT'LL DEPEND ON WHETHER IT'S AN ENGINE OR A LADDER,

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UH, APPARATUS IN TERMS OF THE EXACT RANK OF THOSE POSITIONS.

THE THIRD BULLET COVERS THE, UH, FUNDING WE GOT FOR THE WILD LAND, URBAN INTERFACE POSITIONS.

UM, WHILE IT SOUNDS LIKE THESE ARE IN THE WILDFIRE DIVISION, IT TURNS OUT THESE ARE ACTUALLY CODE ENFORCEMENT TYPES OF POSITIONS, IT'S ENGINEERS TO REVIEW PLANS, UM, FOR, UH, THE NEW CODE THAT'S IN PLACE FOR THE WILD LAND URBAN INTERFACE.

UH, SO IT'S, IT'S FIVE SWORN THAN TO GO AROUND AND INSPECT AFTER THE PLANS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND SIX CIVILIANS, THAT'S A COMBINATION OF ADMINS AND, AND PRIMARILY, UH, PLANS, REVIEWERS, WHICH ARE LIKE ENGINEERS AND THEN THE ONE-TIME EXPENSES TO SUPPORT THEM.

THE OTHER THING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, SINCE WE HAD HAD SO MUCH DIFFICULTY WITH OVERTIME, UM, BECAUSE OF OUR MANDATORY STAFFING, WE RECEIVED 3.1 MILLION AT TO ADD TO OUR CURRENT BUDGET FOR OVERTIME STAFFING.

UM, MANDATORY STAFFING MEANS THAT SOMEBODY IS DOESN'T, ISN'T ABLE TO COME IN FOR WORK.

WE HAVE TO GO PULL SOMEBODY ELSE, EVEN IF IT'S ON A MANDATORY BASIS TO PUT THEM IN THAT POSITION.

NO, NO KIND OF NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

YOU CAN COME HERE.

HEAR THAT INFORMATION FOR THIS YEAR, TOO.

WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IN THE FORECAST FOR NEXT YEAR, THE BUDGET IS UP TO 223 MILLION NEXT YEAR.

AGAIN, THAT'S STILL UNDER DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S A LOT OF, OF NEGOTIATION TO GO INTO THIS.

IT'S ADDING POSITIONS FOR A NEW FIRE STATION.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE STAYING AT THE SAME NUMBER OF CIVILIANS 137 CIVILIANS PERSONNEL COST DRIVERS.

THE THREE BIG CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT ARE WAGE ADJUSTMENTS, WHICH INCLUDES A 2.5% INCREASE FOR SWORN ACCORDING TO OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, A 2% INCREASE FOR CIVILIANS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN DEPENDING ON THE BUDGET.

UM, WE HAVE SO FEW CIVILIANS RELATIVE TO SWAN.

IT'S REALLY THE 2.5% THAT MAKES THE BULK OF THAT WAGE ADJUSTMENT CATEGORY.

THE NEXT ITEM IN PERSONNEL COSTS DRIVERS IS A STEP INCREASE.

AND THIS IS, UM, SOMETIMES TO EXPLAIN, BUT AS, AS THESE CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES, THE SWORN UNIFORMED AND POOR EMPLOYEES, UM, GAIN YEARS THAT GO THROUGH A VARIETY OF STEPS AND THEY GET PAY RAISES BASED ON WHAT STEP THEY ARE UNTIL THEY REACHED ABOUT THE 21ST YEAR, I THINK IT IS.

AND THEN THAT KIND OF PLATEAUS.

SO WHEN WE ESTIMATE HOW MUCH MONEY NEEDS TO PAY FOR THOSE STEP INCREASES, UM, IT TURNS OUT THIS YEAR, WE WERE OFF BY ABOUT 625,000.

SO THAT HAS BEEN ADDED TO OUR EXISTING BUDGET TO COVER THOSE STEP INCREASES.

UM, JUST AS MS. SCHMIDT DESCRIBED, TERMINAL PAY HAS BEEN REAL DIFFICULT TO PREDICT IN RECENT YEARS.

UM, WHEN PEOPLE RETIRE, THEY TAKE OUT CERTAIN LUMP SUMS OF ACCRUED LEAVE TO PAY THEM FOR CRUDE LEAVE.

UM, WE HAD A LOT OF HIRING ROUGHLY 30 YEARS AGO.

AND SO WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, KIND OF A BLIP OF RETIREMENT SO THAT THESE LARGE COHORTS OF CADET CLASSES.

SO WE ANTICIPATE THIS YOU'RE NEEDING 223,000 ADDITIONAL FUND FUNDS ON TOP OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT INTER FUND TRANSFERS INCREASE FOR, FOR EVERYBODY.

AND THEY ARE, THEY ARE THOSE MONIES THAT WE TRANSFER OVER TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

I'M GOING TO LIST THE TOP FOUR THERE'S, THERE'S PROBABLY NINE OR 10, BUT THE TOP FOUR IN OUR LIST, UM, THE TECHNOLOGY, UH, GROUP, UH, WE'VE GOT 566,000 ADDITIONAL DOLLARS ADDED TO OUR BUDGET TO COVER OUR TECHNOLOGY COSTS 665,000 ADDED FOR WHAT YOU MIGHT CONSIDER OVERHEAD IN OTHER, IN OTHER WORLDS.

UM, IT'S IT'S TO COVER CENTRALIZED, YOU KNOW, CORPORATE HR, LEGAL CITY, LEGAL, UM, CORPORATE, UM, FINANCE, ALL OF THAT COMBINATION OF THINGS.

OUR PORTION OF THEIR FUNDING IS SIX.

IS IT NEEDED AN ADDITIONAL 665,000 C TECH, WHICH IS THE COMBINED COMMUNICATIONS AND TECHNOLOGY GROUP WHERE WE DO ALL OUR DISPATCHING.

THEY'VE INCREASED OUR BUDGET FOR C TECH, UH, TRANSFER TRANSFERS BY 291,000.

AND FINALLY FLEET THEY'VE INCREASED THAT BUDGET BY 276,000.

WHEN YOU GO TO THE THIRD BUDGET OR THIRD BULLET ON THIS FORECAST, THE ANNUALIZATION OF THOSE WILL BE POSITIONS AND TRAVIS COUNTRY STAFFING.

SO REMEMBER THIS YEAR, WE HAD PARTIAL YEARS FOR THE WOOEY PERSONNEL WHO STARTED IN JANUARY AND THE TRAVIS COUNTRY PERSONNEL WHO ARE GOING TO START THIS SUMMER.

THIS IS THE MONEY THAT IT TAKES TO MAKE IT A FULL YEAR.

SO THAT, SO THAT WHEN WE GET INTO 2023, WE'VE GOT THE FULL YEAR'S CAPACITY THERE.

UM, WITH REGARD TO OUI, IT'S 168,000 TO MAKE THEM WHOLE.

AND WITH REGARD TO TRAVIS COUNTRY, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT 17 PAY PERIODS.

SO IT'S 864,000.

THOSE TWO NUMBERS ADD UP TO THE NINE 51.

WE ARE ON TRACK TO ADD FIVE FIRE STATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF THE COMING YEARS WE'VE ALREADY

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ADDED TO, OR WITH, WITH TRAVIS COUNTRY, WE WILL HAVE ADDED TO A LOOP THREE 60 IS THE NEXT IN THIS PROGRESSION OF ADDING FIRE STATIONS.

UH, THE PARTIAL YEAR FOR LOOP THREE 60 PERSONNEL IS AN ADDITIONAL SIX PAY PERIODS AT 518,000 FOR THOSE STAFF.

AND THEN EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE IS, UM, IS ABOUT 181,000, UM, TO GET THEM OFF THE GROUND THIS SUMMER AND GET THEM GET THEM STARTED, OR I'M SORRY, NEXT SUMMER IN 22, UH, FINALLY CONTRACT INCREASES.

WE HAVE LINE ITEMS FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONTRACTS WE HAVE, BUT AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE WITH COVID AND EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON, WE NEEDED INCREASES BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING CHANGES TO PROTOCOL.

SO WITH REGARD TO CLEANING SUPPLIES, OUR BUDGET WAS INSUFFICIENT.

WE FOUND THIS YEAR AND WE NEED TO INCREASE THAT BY ABOUT 200,000 TO COVER UP, COVER THE CLEANING SUPPLIES AT ALL THE 50 FIRE STATIONS ACROSS THE CITY.

AND THEN, UM, PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT IS PPE.

UH, WE NEED ABOUT ANOTHER HUNDRED THOUSAND TO COVER, UH, ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE USE, UH, IN THAT AREA.

SO THOSE ARE OUR CONTRACT INCREASES, UM, THAT TOTALS UP TO 8.5 MILLION COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, WHICH IS ABOUT 3.9% INCREASE.

IF YOU COULD GO THE NEXT SLIDE, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS WE'RE STILL WORKING ON WITH THE BUDGET OFFICE AND, UM, AND THINGS THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW.

UH, THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, ACTUALLY A LADDER TRUCK AND THE PERSONNEL TO GO ON THAT LADDER TRUCK, UM, WHICH WE'RE SLATED TO GO TO THE DEL VALLEY STATION LAST YEAR, UM, BECAUSE BUDGETS WERE TIGHT.

THEY WERE REMOVED FROM THE BUDGET LAST YEAR AND THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, UH, MEANING THIS, THIS COMING YEAR 2022.

SO WE ARE ASKING THAT THAT LADDER COMPANY BE ADDED, UM, IT'S 1.6 MILLION.

IT'S WHAT I DESCRIBED AS GOT CAPTAINS.

UM, ALONG WITH IT'S, IT'S GOT THREE CAPTAINS, THREE FIRE SPECIALISTS AND 10 FIREFIGHTERS FOR THOSE 16 POSITIONS THAT WE WOULD NEED.

AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EQUIPMENT MONEY IN THAT ASK.

ALSO, UM, EVERY YEAR, UH, WE ASKED TO CONVERT, WE HAVE SOME TEMPORARY CIVILIANS THAT WE'VE HAD TO HIRE IN ORDER TO PERFORM THE SUPPORT FUNCTIONS, TO KEEP THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THAT, AND THEY'RE IN BUSINESS GOING, UM, THIS YEAR WE'D LIKE TO ASK TO CONVERT, UH, FOUR DIFFERENT POSITIONS TO PERMANENT POSITIONS.

THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED IN THEIR JOBS AT LEAST TWO YEARS, AND THEIR JOB FUNCTIONS HAVE OFTENTIMES BEEN IN PLACE FOR FIVE YEARS AND WE'D LIKE TO MAKE THEM PERMANENT.

UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN SAFETY SUPPORT, WHICH IS THE CLEANING OF THAT PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, ESPECIALLY THE TURNOUT COATS, THE TURNOUT PANTS.

UM, THEY ARE A PART OF OUR, OUR CANCER PREVENTION PROGRAM IN THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF CARCINOGENS IN FIRE SMOKE, AND IF THEY CAN REMOVE THOSE FROM THE SCENE IMMEDIATELY, AND THE OLD DAYS, THE FIREFIGHTERS JUST TOOK THEM BACK TO THE STATION WITH THEM, THEY WORE THEM BACK TO THE STATION.

NOW THEY TAKE THEM OFF AT THE SCENE OF THE FIRE THEY'RE GIVEN ALTERNATIVE PPE, UM, AND THAT DIRTY EQUIPMENT IS TAKEN IMMEDIATELY TO BE WASHED.

IT REDUCES THE OPS, THE, IT REDUCES THE RISK SOMEWHAT OF, OF GETTING CANCER.

UH, WE NEED A RECORDS ANALYST TO DO OPEN RECORDS REQUESTS.

WE HAVE A TEMP WORKING IN THAT AREA.

WE REALLY FEEL IT SHOULD BE A FULL-TIME POSITION.

AND WITH THE ADDITION OF THESE NEW FIRE STATIONS UP FOR TIME, WE HAVEN'T ADDED MUCH TO OUR MAINTENANCE STAFF TO MAINTAIN THOSE 50 DIFFERENT STATIONS.

SO WE'VE GOT A MAINTENANCE WORKER IN THERE.

THE FINAL TWO PIECES ARE RELATED TO THE MENTAL HEALTH RESOLUTION THAT YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT.

UM, WE'VE GOT THOSE TWO FTES.

UM, ONE OF THEM'S AN ADMIN SPECIALIST, THE OTHER'S A WELLNESS PROGRAM COORDINATOR TO HELP COORDINATE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE'VE GOT, IT'S SORT OF A RANDOM NUMBER OF $50,000 TO GET STARTED ON, ON, UM, ADVANCING THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING THAT WE DO FOR MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.

THAT TOTALS UP TO 2.1 IN OUR CURRENT LIST.

UM, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CLEARLY NEED, BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, UNDER DISCUSSION AT THE FORECAST STAGE.

AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

AND ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER LANE PLEASE? OH, HELLO.

I WAS JUST, UM, I WAS WONDERING WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PPE, IF THAT PRICING INCLUDES A COST FOR PPE, THAT MAYBE WE DON'T ALWAYS TALK ABOUT LIKE, UM, BULLETPROOF VESTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WAS THAT INCLUDED IN THAT COST AT PRESENT.

WE DON'T HAVE, UM, BULLETPROOF VEST FOR ALL FIREFIGHTERS.

IF YOU LOOK AT TURNOUT COATS, THEY'RE PRETTY HEAVY AND WE HAVE PROTOCOL WITH REGARD TO ACTIVE SHOOTERS.

UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NEED FOR, UM, FOR THOSE AND PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE EQUATION, THE NEED TO BE WEARING BULLETPROOF VESTS.

SO, NO, AT THIS TIME WE AREN'T, WE AREN'T BUDGETING FOR BULLETPROOF US.

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OH, IS THAT ME? YEAH.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES.

UM, JUST THE SAME THING, IF WE CAN GET FORWARDED THE BREAKDOWN, UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

YOU MEAN FROM THE FIRST SLIDE HIGHLIGHTS SLIDE, CORRECT? YES.

SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF ALL THOSE.

YEP.

ALL RIGHT.

AND ANYONE ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS CHAIR? I BELIEVE THAT, UM, CHIEF NEXT WANTED TO SPEAK, I'LL TELL THEM EXACTLY WHAT WHAT'S ABOUT TO SAY.

WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF NICKS WHO, UH, HAS THREE MINUTES TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE BUDGET.

SHE'D NICKS YOU THE FLORENCE.

OKAY.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY? YES.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMISSION.

I JUST WANTED TO, UM, UH, SUPPORT THE LADDER, UM, JUST TO HAVE A BRIEF HISTORY FOR SOME OF THE NEW MEMBERS ON THE COMMISSION, THE LADDER WAS, UM, ACTUALLY IN THE BUDGET, IT WAS PUT OFF BECAUSE OF SOME BUDGET ISSUES.

IT WAS NOT ADDED BACK IN AND ON 2021, THIS BODY, THIS COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND IT WOULD BE AT A BAG AND THAT NUMBER WAS, AND SO WE'RE STILL WAITING TO, UH, TO GET THAT LADDER.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A NEW LADDER IN THE AUSTIN PARK APARTMENT IN OVER A QUARTER OF A CENTURY.

UH, THE CITY IS, IS MORE THAN DOUBLED IN SIZE.

WE HAVE DEFICIENCIES IN THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF THE CITY AND OUR LADDER RESPONSE TIMES, OUR LADDERS WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR ENGINES ON STRUCTURE FIRES TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THERE QUICK EXTINGUISHED OUR QUICKLY.

SO WE CAN HAVE A GOOD OUTCOME IN TERMS OF THE STRUCTURE AND, AND SAVING, UH, JUST BILLIONS IN THOSE, IN THOSE STRUCTURES.

SO IT'S, IT'S SORELY NEEDED, UH, WITH SURE HOPE, UH, THE COMMISSION COULD, UH, TAKE THAT TO CONSIDERATION AND, UM, ALL THE OTHER ITEMS, UH, ON THE BUDGET, UH, REVIEWED WITH MANAGEMENT AND THEY ARE ALL, UH, ALL VERY NEEDED.

UH, WE HAVE PUT THESE, SOME OF THESE OFF ITEMS OFF FOR SOME TIME, AND WE SHOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THESE ITEMS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, STEVE.

NEXT WEEK.

I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

IF THAT IS IT, THEN WE WILL GO OVER TO THE NEXT, UM, PRESENTATION FROM EMS. HELLO, AND GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO OUR CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, UH, WE'RE AT A HUNDRED TO A HUNDRED, $2 MILLION.

UH, WE HAVE A 643 SWORN PERSONNEL, UH, 81 AND A HALF CIVILIANS.

UM, OUR REVENUES 38.4 PROJECTED STILL.

AND THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 37% 37.6 IS IN FEES THAT WE COLLECT BACK AND, UH, WHAT'S TAX SUBSIDIZED IS 62.4% OF THE BUDGET.

UM, YOU COULD SEE IT BY THE PIE CHART.

I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS THAT IT'S GONE OVER THE PIE CHART AND WHERE THOSE FEES AND, UM, OUR BUDGET GOES TO THE LARGEST PART OF THE COURSES, OPERATIONS AND COMMUNICATIONS AND OUR SUPPORT SERVICES, UH, ADDED UP AND ALTOGETHER IN THE CURRENT BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM LAST YEAR'S, UM, UM, BUDGET AND COUNCIL REALLY INVESTED IN EMS WAS, UH, 14 ADDITIONAL SWARM FTES FOR COMMUNITY HEALTH PER MEDICINE AND THE AMSCOT INITIATIVE.

WE RECEIVED 12 NEW FTES FOR THE NEW TRAVIS COUNTRY EMS FIRE STATION.

WE SHOULD BE COMING ONLINE SOMETIME JULY, JUNE, JUNE, JULY, SOMEWHERE IN THAT, AS LONG AS IT'S ON TRACK FOR, UM, CONSTRUCTION, UH, WE SEE 24, UH, SWORN FTES TO PUT ON TWO 24 HOUR AMBULANCES WITHIN THE SYSTEM, EIGHT NEW CLINICAL SPECIALISTS TO CONTINUE OUR CONSULT LINE.

WE'RE CALLING THE C4 LINE.

THE CONSOLE LINE REALLY, UH, STARTED PRIOR TO COVID AND THEN ONCE, UH, UH, COVID STARTED, IT REALLY TOOK OFF, UH, AND THEN, UH, WHERE WE WERE TRIAGING PATIENTS, CANCELING FIRST RESPONDERS TO THEM TO HELP, UH, SLOW DOWN PPE BURN, UH, ALSO, UM, KEEPING PATIENTS OUT OF THE HOSPITAL THAT THE NEED TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.

AND THEN WHEN WE HAD ACTUALLY THE SNOW, UH, EPISODE IN FEBRUARY, THE CONSOLE LINE CAME INTO PLAY, UH, BY, UH, ABLE TO TRIAGE LOW ACUITY PATIENTS, THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO SEND ANY RESOURCES TO, UH, THAT THEY COULD, UH, EITHER STAY AT HOME OR GET ADDITIONAL SERVICES IN A DIFFERENT WAY THROUGH TELEMEDICINE OR OTHER.

SO THAT'S REALLY TAKEN OFF IN A, IN, IN A NEW, UM, KIND OF FORM OR FASHION.

WE ALSO RECEIVE FIVE NEW COMMANDERS TO CREATE A NEW DISTRICT COMMAND UNIT, UH, OUT IN THE FIELD FOR OUR FIELD PROVIDERS FOR NEW COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALISTS, UM, TO ADD TO OUR STAFFING THERE IN FIVE NEW ADMIN POSITIONS.

AND THOSE WERE REALLY, UM,

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HELPFUL TO HELP SUPPORT THE ADDITIONAL, UM, SWORN FT FTES WE RECEIVED, UM, IN THE, IN THE BUDGET AND THEN THE 24 BY 72 SCHEDULE THAT WAS FUNDED, UH, EARLY.

UM, IT WAS CURRENTLY IN OUR CONTRACT TO BEGIN NEXT YEAR AND THE COUNCIL, UH, BROUGHT IT IN A YEAR EARLY.

SO WE MOVED TO A 24 HOUR ON 72 HOUR OFF FOR THE BULK OF OUR UNITS WITH ONLY A FEW UNITS THAT WORK IN ALTERNATIVE SCHEDULE.

COOL.

GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OUR EMPLOYEES 22 PROPOSED, UH, PLANNING BUDGET, UM, IT'S, NOTHING'S BEEN APPROVED OR DONE YET.

I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS.

UM, CURRENTLY WE'LL GO TO $106.3 MILLION.

UH, NUMBER OF SWORN FTS WILL INCREASE THE 655.

WE STILL HAVE ONLY 81 AND A HALF CIVILIANS, AND WE'RE ONLY PROJECTING 35.8 AND, UH, REVENUE, UH, THAT NUMBER WILL PROBABLY CHANGE AS THINGS KIND OF COME IN AND GO OUT, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR NEW SERVICES OF, UH, EMERGENCY TRIAGE TREATMENT TRANSPORT , UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME NEW FUNDING OPTIONS THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD GRASP ON HOW MUCH THAT'LL BRING IN REVENUE, BUT, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THAT NUMBER CHANGES.

UH, WE HAVE PERSONNEL COST DRIVERS OF ABOUT $4.1 MILLION THAT REALLY REFLECTS FROM A LOT OF POSITIONS THAT WERE GIVEN TO US IN COUNCIL THIS YEAR.

WE'RE ONLY PARTIALLY FUNDED EITHER HALF OR THREE QUARTERS OF A YEAR OR OVER A QUARTER.

SO ALL THAT HAS TO BE ANNUALIZED AND PUT INTO THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO A LOT OF THAT, UH, IS THE, UH, ANNUALIZATION OF THOSE ONLY PART-TIME, UM, FUNDING THIS YEAR.

AND THEN ANY CONTRACT INCREASES WE HAVE IN OUR, UM, MEET AND CONFER CONTRACT, UH, CURRENTLY SLATED IS 12 FTES FOR THE LOOP THREE 60, UM, STATION, AND THEN INTERFUND TRANSFERS.

AND, UH, THOSE ARE TRANSFERS TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, CONTRACT INCREASES SOME MINOR OPERATING EXPENSES AND ONE-TIME FUNDING THAT SHOWS US A NEGATIVE.

AND THOSE ARE FUNDS LIKE THE 24 BY 72 CONTRACT, OR THE 2040 BY 72 SCHEDULE THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE IS ACTUALLY BACKED BACK OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IN UNDER COST DRIVERS BECAUSE THAT IS PROPOSED IN THE, IN THE, UM, CONTRACT.

SO, UM, IT SHOWS AS A NEGATIVE BECAUSE IT WAS ONE TIME FUNDING FROM LAST YEAR.

RIGHT NOW, THE TOTAL IS $4.3 MILLION IN, UH, INCREASES.

UH, IT'S ABOUT 4.2% OF THE BUDGET.

AGAIN, THOSE ARE, THESE ARE ALL ESTIMATES.

NOTHING'S BEEN FINALIZED BY THE MANAGER.

ALL EVERYTHING'S STILL UNDER REVIEW AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE BUDGET, YOUR PROCESS, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, BUDGET ITEMS UNDER REVIEW, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME PROGRAM LEADERSHIP ENHANCEMENTS.

UM, I JUST DISCUSSED ALL THE INVESTMENTS.

THE CITY COUNCIL HAS PLACED IN OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH PARAMEDICS AND C4 LINE, AND, UM, THE HOST TEAMS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, UM, AND WE REALLY IN NEED OF PROGRAM LEADERSHIP.

AND SO WITH OUR CURRENT ASSISTANT CHIEF, UH, CHIEF HOFFMEISTER WHO'S OVER THAT AREA.

UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE HE'S BEEN TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS.

HE'S KIND OF KNOWN IN THIS ONE AREA, BUT HE REALLY HAS ANOTHER POSITION ALREADY.

UM, AND THAT WAS OVER OUR EDUCATION WELLNESS IN DIVISION.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE NEED ANOTHER ASSISTANT CHIEF TO, UH, HELP MANAGE THE, UH, NEW, UH, DIVISION THAT'S REALLY, UM, BEEN ACCELERATED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND IT'S, UM, UH, THE COMMUNITY HEALTH PARAMEDIC PROGRAM AND EVERYTHING THAT IT ENCOMPASSES AROUND IT.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THREE DIVISION CHIEFS.

ONE WOULD BE AT THAT SAME AREA TO HELP WITHOUT THAT STRUCTURE AND SUPPORT.

AND THEN TWO OTHERS WOULD BE IN OUR OPERATIONAL AREAS.

UH, CURRENTLY OUR OPERATIONAL DIVISION CHIEFS, UH, HANDLE MULTIPLE AREAS AS, AS WELL AS A SHIPT, UH, THAT THERE WERE OVER IN PERSONNEL.

WE REALLY NEED THEM TO CONCENTRATE AND WORK ON THE, ON THE, ON THE PERSONNEL ASPECTS OF IT AND TAKE OFF SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES WE HAVE OVER THEM, UH, AND, AND FOCUS IN ON THOSE AREAS THAT NEED DIVISION CHIEFS.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT TWO COMMUNICATIONS COMMANDERS, AND THOSE ARE COMMANDERS THAT WOULD BE OVER OUR TECHNOLOGY.

ONE WOULD BE OVER TECHNOLOGY PROPOSED, AND ANOTHER ONE WOULD BE OVER OUR QUALITY SHIRTS AND QUALITY IMPROVEMENT, WHICH IS VERY VITAL IN OUR COMMUNICATION CENTER, UH, THAT US MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY AND OUR ACCREDITATION THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE THE YEAR 2000, UM, FOR BEING AN ACCREDITED CENTER OF EXCELLENCE IN OUR COMM CENTER.

AND THAT'S ALL THROUGH DOING QUI QA WORK OF REVIEWING, UH, UP TO THREE TO 5% OF ALL CALLS AND FOR CONSISTENCY.

AND, AND WE PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO ALL OUR COMMUNICATIONS MEDICS.

THE NEXT AREA WE'RE LOOKING AT IN LARGE INVESTMENTS WOULD BE PHASING IN FTES TO STANDARDIZE OUR S OUR STAFFING LEVELS.

AND WHAT THAT BASICALLY MEANS IS CURRENTLY ANY NEW STATION WE OPENED, WE OPENED UP WITH 12 FTES.

THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO, UH, STAFF, THE STATION, AND TO BACKFILL WITH, UH, ANY OGI SICK FEMLA, UH, MILITARY LEAVE, ALL THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT IN THAT WE, UH, GIVE OFF FOR PERSONNEL, UH, TO STAFF A STATION.

SO IN THE NINETIES AND PROBABLY EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, WE ONLY BUDGETED

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EIGHT.

UM, AND THEN LATE TWO THOUSANDS.

AND UP TILL ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO, WE BUDGETED 10 PEOPLE PER STATION.

UM, THAT WAS WHAT WAS NEEDED AT THAT TIME.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE BEHIND.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT ACROSS THE BOARD ARE BEHIND PROBABLY AT LEAST 40 INDIVIDUALS, UM, PARAMEDICS AND MEDICS ALIKE.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 10 PER A SHIFT CAUSE WE HAVE FOUR SHIFTS OUT THERE IN THE FIELD, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 10 FTES THAT WE BRING UP OUR STAFFING LEVELS.

UH, THIS WOULD HELP WITH OUR, UM, SICK CALL OR, UM, FAMILY OGI AND ALL THOSE THINGS WHERE WE HAVE TO TAKE PEOPLE OFF THE SCHEDULE AND KEEP PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO COME BACK AND WORK ADDITIONAL SHIFTS.

UM, SO THAT HELPS THEIR WORK LIFE BALANCE AND WORK RESILIENCY.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 10, UH, PER SHIFT.

SO THAT'S ABOUT 40 PEOPLE IN THAT $3.6 MILLION.

AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME EXPANSION, OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND INJURY PREVENTION INVESTMENTS.

UM, THAT'S, UH, THE PROGRAM WHERE WE DO OUR CAR SEAT AND, UH, INSPECTIONS AND GIVEAWAYS AND OUR SENIOR FALL PREVENTION AND HOME VISITS BY OUR STAFF AND MAKING, UH, HELP REDUCE, UM, NINE 11 CALLS IN THAT AREA.

CURRENTLY THERE'S ONE CAPTAIN THAT KIND OF RUNS THE WHOLE PROGRAM, AND WE REALLY NEED SOME ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS IN THAT.

AND THERE COULD BE A COMMANDER AND ADDITIONAL CLINICAL SPECIALISTS IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S AT 230, $2,000.

I FAILED TO PUT A BOTTOM LINE NUMBER ON ALL OF THAT, BUT IF I IMAGINE ENDED UP IN MY HEAD REAL FAST, THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT $5 MILLION IN, IN, UH, IN, UM, REQUESTS.

UH, AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST DISCUSSION POINTS FOR THE, THIS, UM, COMMISSION AND FOR, UM, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND OTHERS, AS THINGS ARE ASKED OF US, I'LL TAKE ANY QUOTES, ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, PLEASE? SAME TO GET THE BREAKDOWN OF THE PREVIOUS SLIDE FAIR, UM, THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, UM, FOR THE INCREASES, JUST SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE DETAIL ON THAT FREEZE ON THE PERSONNEL COST DRIVERS OR THE TWINS.

I THINK IT, IT IS SLIDE THE HIGHLIGHTS, THE FORECAST HIGHLIGHTS, PERSONAL COST DRIVERS.

THAT ONE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH, WE CAN GET YOU THE DETAILS ON THOSE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HOUSE AND FLOP.

JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

YOU SAID THAT THE THREE 60 STATION IS COMING ONLINE AND JUNE OR JULY THIS YEAR, IS THAT RIGHT? UH, YES.

I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE STILL SLATED FOR FINISHING CONSTRUCTION IN JUNE OR JULY.

I DON'T KNOW THE LATEST DATE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

AND THEN, UM, UH, ADDICTS ARE FUNDED IN THAT SAME TIME PERIOD.

SO AS SOON AS THE STATION OPENS UP, THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT IT, UH, PUTTING A UNIT OVER THERE IN TRAVIS COUNTRY.

IT'S ACTUALLY ON TWO 90.

UM, UM, I DON'T FORGET THAT DRESS OFF THAT MY HEAD, BUT IT'S ON TWO 90, BUT THERE'S SOME ACCESS BACK BE ABLE TO GET TO, UM, TRAVIS COUNTRY IN THOSE AREAS.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION, ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, SO COMMISSIONER IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST IS WE HAVE TAKEN, UH, A LOOK AT THE BUDGET ITEMS, THE COUNCIL INITIATIVES, OR OTHER BUDGET ITEMS UNDER REVIEW, AND WE'VE CALLED OUT OUR SUPPORT, UH, TO COMMUNICATE BACK TO COUNCIL.

WE HAVE TIME TO DO THAT NOW.

UH, BELIEVE, LET ME SEE, WHAT TIME ARE WE HERE? UH, YES, WE HAVE, UH, STILL HAVE 30 MINUTES ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

SO, UM, CAN WE PULL THE PRESENTATION BACK UP PLEASE? SO YOU GUYS CAN HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU.

WONDERFUL.

SO IF YOU CAN GO BACK UP TO THE TOP, WE CAN START WITH THE TOP AND GO DOWN FROM THERE.

IT WILL BE FOR POLICE.

IT IS THE FOURTH.

SLIDE IT GOING.

NEXT ONE.

GREAT.

UM, SO IT'S ONE OVER TIME.

TERMINAL PAIN INCREASE 2.5 CIVILIAN FTES FOR D AND I, AND THE TRAINING ACADEMY

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AND THE HELICOPTER REPLACEMENT.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO CALL OUT ANYTHING? WE WOULD LIKE TO COMMUNICATE OUR SUPPORT AND I CAN'T SEE YOU ALL ON A SCREEN.

SO IF YOU WOULD JUST UNMUTE YOURSELF AND LET ME KNOW, YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, ANYONE HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT ANYTHING ON THIS LIST.

SO I HAVE A FIRM OPINION ABOUT NOT SPENDING MONEY ON A HELICOPTER WHEN WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PLAGUE.

SO I'LL JUST PUT THAT ON THERE.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

I WAS GOING TO SAY I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE CIVILIAN FTES FOR D AND I, AFTER A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM, UM, THE CONSULTANTS AND THE WORK THAT HAVE BEEN DONE ACROSS THE MOOD MORALE AND, UM, STAFFING AT, UM, APG, I FEEL PRETTY STRONGLY THAT SOME CIVILIAN FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AROUND D AND I WOULD, WOULD DEFINITELY PUT US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OR A, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S ON THE TABLE FOR US QUITE A LOW COST, I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE A PRETTY BIG IMPACT IF THEY WERE EMPOWERED AND TRULY HAVE THIS, UM, GO FORWARD PLAN AS TO SOME OF THE AUDITS THAT WE'VE SEEN.

YEAH.

I WOULD SECOND THAT, UM, I JUST DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE SEMI-COLON AND THEN WHAT COMES AFTER IT.

SO IT'S KIND OF HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER THE 2.5 CIVILIANS ARE GOING TO BE DOING D E N I AT THE TRAINING ACADEMY, OR JUST D SPECIFICALLY LET'S SEE.

YEAH.

AND THE TRAINING ACADEMY GETS SOME OTHER THINGS.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

UM, MS. SCHMIDT, ARE YOU STILL ONLINE? COULD YOU ANSWER THAT FOR US? DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? SURE.

IF SHE'S STILL, I AM STILL ONLINE.

UM, SO THE TWO FULL-TIME FTES ARE, ARE EXCLUSIVE TO OUR D AND I UNIT.

UM, THAT'S A BUSINESS PROCESS CONSULTANT AND AN EQUITY AND INCLUSION COORDINATOR.

UM, THAT'S TO SUPPORT D AND I THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, IN AN ANALYSIS OF THE PROGRESS AND THE OUTCOMES OF OUR DEPARTMENT INITIATIVES, COORDINATION OF EMPLOYEE RESOURCE, GROUP MEETINGS, SURVEY DEVELOPMENT, COMPILATION, COMPILATION, AND ANALYSIS, AND THEN RESEARCH OF INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES.

THE PART-TIME FTE.

THE 0.5 THAT YOU'RE SEEING IS FOR THE TRAINING ACADEMY.

THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COLE AND ASSOCIATES REPORTS.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE EIGHT TEMP, UM, WORKING PART-TIME ABOUT 20 HOURS A WEEK.

AND, UM, THAT'S DR.

SARAH VILLANOVA, AND THIS IS A REQUEST TO CONVERT HER TEMP TO A PART-TIME POSITION WITH BENEFITS SO SHE CAN CONTINUE THE WORK THAT SHE'S BEEN DOING AT THE ACADEMY, UM, AND REVAMPING THAT, UM, CURRICULUM AND WORKING WITH THE TRAINERS OUT THERE.

AND DOES THAT 0.5 HAVE A DIVERSITY EQUITY AND INCLUSION LENS, OR IS THAT JUST FOR THE TRAINING ACADEMY AS, AS, AS YOU JUST DESCRIBED OR IS THAT I THINK IT ABSOLUTELY HAS A DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION LENS.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? I'M GONNA YOUR HOUSE AND FLUFF, PLEASE.

I'M NOT SUPER SUPPORTIVE OR HAPPY ABOUT THE FIRST TWO, YOU KNOW, ITEMS ON THE LIST OF HAVING TO SPEND MONEY ON OVERTIME AND THE TERMINAL PAY INCREASE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IF THIS IS GOING TO BE, HAVE TO BE PAID OUT ANYWAY, THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T PUT IT IN THERE AND THEY SPEND IT ANYWAY, THEN IT JUST BLOWS OUR NUMBERS.

SO LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M SUPER PASSIONATE ABOUT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THAT SOMEWHAT GOING INTO THE NUMBERS, UNDERSTOOD ANYONE ELSE ON SUPPORT OR NON-SUPPORT OF APD COUNCIL INITIATIVES, EMBEDDED ITEMS, CHAIR.

I JUST THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY AS HAS BEEN A LITTLE CONFUSED ON WHY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE SAYING THAT WE DON'T WANT MONEY TO GO TO CERTAIN, CERTAIN THINGS THAT IT IS BEING ALLOCATED.

AND I, I WOULD LOVE TO JUST GET A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, MAYBE A CLEAR COMMUNICATION AND THIS MEETING RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHY WE'RE SEEING MONEY BEING ALLOCATED IN THIS WAY, JUST TO CLEAR UP ANY CONFUSION FROM THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU? I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE ASSUMING THAT WE ARE, WE ARE NOT PUTTING MONEY INTO ANY, UH, ANY, UH, APD

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FUNDING.

I THINK THAT THAT'S LIKE MAYBE A MISCOMMUNICATION.

UM, MAYBE PEOPLE ARE ONLY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, THE, WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR.

AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE'RE BEING VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS FOR ANOTHER, UM, THE NEXT, THE NEXT YEAR.

IS THAT CORRECT? AND THE EXACTLY FOR, FOR THE FUN, THIS IS FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

YEAH.

I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK SOME FOLKS WERE GETTING CONFUSED, UM, SEEING WHAT WAS ON THE AGENDA AND I HAD SOME FOLKS ASK ME ABOUT IT.

SO, UH, THIS IS FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER BERNHARDT.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO SECOND WHAT COMMISSIONER HOUSE AND FLUX SAID ABOUT THE FIRST TWO ITEMS. UM, AND I DON'T LIKE THE HELICOPTER EITHER.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE WE NEED ONE HELICOPTER.

I'M NOT EVEN TOTALLY CONVINCED OF THAT.

UM, BUT YEAH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED A NEW HELICOPTER.

VERY GOOD.

UM, OKAY.

SO W WHAT I PLAN TO DO IS WRITE ALL THIS UP, GET IT TO YOU GUYS VIA EMAIL, AND WE WILL HAVE TO, UM, GET IT TO COUNCIL BEFORE MAY 5TH.

SO THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS WATCH OUT FOR THAT.

OKAY.

SO I THINK WE'RE, OH, COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ, GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

IS, IS THERE A REASON WHY THE OVERTIME AND THE TERMINAL A INCREASE ISN'T PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET WE'RE UNDER PERSONNEL COST DRIVERS? LIKE, WHY IS IT CAPTURED OUTSIDE OF OUTSIDE OF THAT FIGURE? UM, WHY DOES IT GET BROKEN OUT THIS WAY? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO GO UNDER REVIEW IN A SEPARATE PROCESS? UM, I TH I'M, I'M JUST, UM, I TOO, I'M JUST SORT OF UNCOMFORTABLE WITH OVERTIME, LIKE PERSONNEL, LIKE PAY BEING IN THIS CATEGORY.

SO I JUST, I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S BROKEN OUT THIS WAY.

YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR US, PLEASE.

YEAH.

SO I THINK ON THE TERMINAL PAY INCREASE, UM, WHAT I TRIED TO EXPLAIN, UM, WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT IS WE ARE WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THE CORPORATE BUDGET OFFICE SINCE WE TURNED THESE NUMBERS IN, UM, WITH OUR F Y TWENTY-TWO FORECAST.

AND I DO THINK THAT WE WILL SETTLE ON THE CORRECT NUMBER OF WHAT THAT INCREASE NEEDS TO BE.

UM, WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT RIGHT NOW.

AND SO IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, I MOVED IT FROM THAT FIRST SLIDE UNDER THE PERSONNEL, SINCE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS NUMBER IS REALLY GONNA, IS IT GONNA BE 3.4 MILLION OR 2 MILLION OR 4 MILLION? UM, AND SO IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, I LEFT IT ON THIS SLIDE BECAUSE IT'S STILL QUOTE UNQUOTE UNDER REVIEW.

UM, I THINK IT DEFINITELY HAS SUPPORT, UM, FROM, FROM THE BUDGET OFFICE AND FROM APD STAFF, THAT THERE DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE AN INCREASE TO IT, JUST TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.

AND SO JUST TRYING TO BE TRANSPARENT AND PUTTING IT OUT HERE TO SHOW THAT IT IS A LINE ITEM THAT'S UNDER REVIEW RIGHT NOW IN OUR BUDGET, UM, FOR THIS WARRANT OVER TIME.

UM, WE DID NOT MAKE ANY TYPE OF AN ASSUMPTION THAT IT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN OUR PERSONNEL COSTS.

AND SO, UM, WE'RE UNDER THE REIMAGINE PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVE PROCESS STOLEN.

SO PUTTING THIS OUT HERE AS A BUDGET ITEM, THAT'S UNDER REVIEW, UM, BY CITY MANAGER AND, AND THEN COUNCIL, UM, I, THIS IS THE BEST SLIDE TO PUT IT ON, BUT IT'S NOT AN ASSUMPTION THAT IT'S AN AUTOMATIC PERSONNEL COST OF.

IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING UNDER REVIEW, RIGHT.

SO BASICALLY THE POINT IS IT'S NOT AFFECT COST.

SO YOU PUT IT ON THE SECOND SLIDE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO CHANGE.

IT MIGHT GO UP, IT MIGHT GO DOWN AND IT WILL BE UNDER REVIEW AS WE CONTINUE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

IS THAT OKAY? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS JUST QUICKLY TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.

I MEAN, I THINK MY CONFUSION WITHIN THE TITLE OF THE SLIDE, SO COUNCIL INITIATIVES IS NOT ALL FOUR ITEMS. ALL FOUR ITEMS ARE UNDER REVIEW.

IS IT JUST THE THIRD ITEM? THAT'S A COUNCIL INITIATIVE.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.

MR. SMITH, CAN YOU GO, THANK YOU.

I, I THINK YOU COULD ACCURATELY SAY THAT, UM, THIS COULD BE COUNCIL INITIATIVES OR OTHER BUDGET ITEMS UNDER REVIEW.

YES.

SO WHICH OF THESE ARE A COUNCIL INITIATIVE? UM, CERTAINLY THE DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION, UM, AND TRAINING ACADEMY ITEMS, THE TWO AND A HALF CIVILIAN FTES.

UM, AND THEN OTHER BUDGET ITEM REVIEW, OTHER BUDGET ITEMS UNDER REVIEW, UM, THE OVERTIME THAT THE TERMINAL PAIN, THE HELICOPTER REPLACEMENTS.

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ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON NPD? SO ARE, HAVE YOU MADE A MOTION CHAIR? NO, I HAVEN'T.

I WANTED TO PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER.

I WANTED TO HAVE US, UH, RIGHT NOW I HAVE US SUPPORTING, UH, THE COUNCIL INITIATIVE ON APD.

UM, I PUT THAT OUT YOU SECOND VIEW AND, UM, I'M SORRY.

UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSE AND PHILIP AND MR. BURNHARD SUPPORT.

UH, THE FIRST TWO POINTS JUST BASICALLY, BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T INCLUDE IT, IT WILL BLOW THE BUDGET OUT OF THE WATER.

SO IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AND THERE'S BEEN SUPPORT TO NOT SUPPORT THE HELICOPTER REPLACEMENT.

SO WE WOULDN'T INCLUDE THAT.

SO THAT'S WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN I WANTED TO PUT ALL THE OTHER ONES AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH IT ALL TOGETHER.

I SEE.

AND, AND YOU MAY YET MAKE CHANGES TO WHAT YOU'RE CRAFTING.

OKAY.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, GREAT.

CAN WE MOVE TO FINER? AND THAT IS THE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR FOURTH.

THERE WE GO.

PERFECT.

UM, SO WE HAVE THE DUMP BELLY LADDER, THIS, UH, CIVILIAN CONVERSION ATTEMPT TO PERMANENT FOR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, THE MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT AND THE MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING.

UM, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND, UM, IF WE CAN REVIEW WHAT IS A COUNCIL INITIATIVE AND WHAT IS THE BUDGET ITEMS UNDER REVIEW ON THIS SLIDE? UH, DR.

PAULSON? YES.

I MEAN, I WOULD, THE LADDER IS A PART OF THE ORIGINAL COUNCIL RESOLUTION TO ADD FIVE STATIONS.

THERE ARE TWO, TWO LADDERS INCLUDED IN THAT ORIGINAL RESOLUTION.

UM, THE CIVILIAN CONVERSIONS ARE OTHER BUDGET ITEMS UNDER REVIEW, AND THEN THE MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT ITEMS THREE AND FOUR WOULD BE THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU QUOTED EARLIER.

UM, WITH THE, UH, THE SUPPORT THAT YOU PASSED.

WE ARE, LET ME ADD THAT WE ARE MEETING MICHELLE SCHMIDT AND, UM, AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER OVER AT EMS ALSO, OR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF EMS, UM, ABOUT HOW TO PUT SOME OF THESE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES FROM THAT RESOLUTION INTO THE OTHER BUDGETS TOO.

UM, THIS IS KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THAT MIGHT LOOK.

THEY JUST WEREN'T AT THE, AT THAT POINT YET IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

PERFECT.

ANY CONVERSATIONS, SUPPORT, COMMISSIONER WEBBER? I WOULD JUST, UM, THE STATE, MY WHOLE HEARTED SUPPORT FOR ALL FOUR ITEMS, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR STATEMENT OF SUPPORT FOR THE FOUR ITEMS CHAIR, I ALSO STATE MY WHOLE HEART AND SUPPORT FOR THESE ITEMS. UM, AND NOTE THAT THE LADDER IS, UM, IS, UH, POSSIBLY A BETTER THING THAN A HELICOPTER.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER.

I RUN ME TO IS, UM, I ALSO SUPPORT, I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON TO EMS. IT IS THE ONE, TWO, THREE FOURTH SLIDE BUDGET ITEMS UNDER REVIEW.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

WE'VE GOT THE PROGRAM LEADERSHIP ENHANCEMENTS, THE FACING OF FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES TO STANDARD STAFFING LEVELS AT EACH OF THE STATIONS AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND INJURY PREVENTION.

INVESTMENT.

ME COMMENTS SHOWS OF SUPPORT.

I, MY, I WANTED TO, UM, SAY THAT THIS HAS MY WHOLE HEART AND SUPPORT, AND IN FACT, I THINK THAT IT COULD STAND TO HAVE MORE BUDGET ALLOCATED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BLAINE.

I'LL CO-SIGN THAT? OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

UM, SO IN FRONT OF ME, I HAVE A MOTION TO SUPPORT THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, UM, FROM APD, THE FIRST TWO ITEMS, WHICH ARE THE SWORN AND TERMINAL PAY.

I HAVE A SUPPORT FOR THE 2.5 CIVILIAN FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

SO THREE OUT OF FOUR OF THE APD.

WE HAVE SUPPORT BOTH FIRST AND SECOND FROM ALL AFD AND EMS, UM, BUDGET REQUIREMENTS.

SO THAT IS MY MOTION.

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DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THOSE POINTS SECOND, RIGHT.

AND LET'S TAKE A VOTE STARTING AT THE TOP.

MICHELLE WAITING.

IT'S AN EYE FOR ME TO COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ.

YES.

COMMISSIONER HOUSE AND FLIP.

YES.

COMMISSIONER SIERRA OUT OF VOLVO.

I JUST WANT TO POINT THIS IS A VOTE ON THE FULL, BUT THE ALL, ALL THE LISTS OF BUDGETS.

YES.

ALL THE ONES I JUST SAID THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT.

CORRECT.

SO BASICALLY THE ONLY THING THAT'S NOT GETTING SUPPORT IS THE HELICOPTER FROM HPD COMMISSIONER BERNARD.

YES.

MR. WEBER.

YES, I AM.

I GUESS THAT'S THE MOTION OF SUPPORT FOR THE BUDGET LINE ITEMS. LOUIS WAS NOT OVER 30 MINUTES LATE, SO SHE, JACKSON, PLEASE LET ME KNOW ABOUT THAT.

I WASN'T SURE IF SHE, I KNOW SHE COULD PARTICIPATE.

I WASN'T SURE IF SHE COULD VOTE.

SHE CAN VOTE.

SHE WAS, SHE JOINED THE MEETING BEFORE 30 MINUTES.

PERFECT.

COMMISSIONER LEWIS, THEN I'LL VOTE.

YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, THE MOTION TO SUPPORT THE BUDGET ITEMS AS LISTED HAS PASSED, UH, WITH ONE ABSTENTION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

WE ARE, UM, UM, OH, ELECTION OF OFFICERS

[3C. Election of Officers for 2021/2022]

FOR OUR 2021, 2022 YEAR HERE AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION.

SHALL WE START WITH VICE CHAIR? I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ FOR OUR NEXT VICE CHAIR.

DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND BET.

CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LANE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS OR OTHER NOMINATIONS, MR. WEBER.

THANKS NELLIE FOR STEPPING UP.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

THANK YOU GUYS.

ALL RIGHT.

IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, UM, COMMISSIONER LEWIS, DO YOU MIND COMING ON VIDEO? I DON'T SEE YOU.

UM, SO THE VOTE FOR COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ TO BE VICE CHAIR FOR 2021, 2022, WE WILL START WITH COMMISSIONER LANE.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ.

YOU AGREE? COMMISSIONER WATSON FLUFF.

YES.

COMMISSIONER YES.

COMMISSIONER BURNER.

YES.

COMMISSIONER WEBER.

YES.

COMMISSIONER LEWIS CHAIR.

IT LOOKS LIKE SHE STEPPED AWAY ACCORDING TO OUR TECHNICIAN HERE.

OH, OKAY.

SO WE WILL GET PRINT UP CENTRAL ON THAT ONE.

UM, AND I VOTE YES AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, COMMISSIONER ROOMMATE, RAMIREZ WILL BE OUR VICE CHAIR FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, NEXT ITEM IS CHAIR.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER VICTIMS? I'M SORRY.

I'M BEING VOLUNTEER.

COMMISSIONER MEMBER.

WELL, SINCE YOU'RE WILLING AND AMAZING, I WOULD JUST 100% SUPPORT YOU DOING IT AGAIN.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

THANK YOU FOR YOU TO DO IT AGAIN.

I SECOND THAT

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COMPLETELY CHAIR SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER, UM, DISCUSSION OR NOMINATION FOR ANY OTHER CHAIRS FOR THE 2021, 2022 YEARS? SORRY.

Y'ALL I HAD SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES AND I'M SORRY YOU MISSED THE BOAT, BUT YES, IT'S.

THANK YOU, AMANDA.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, OKAY, SO I GUESS NO OTHER NOMINATIONS, NO OTHER.

OKAY.

WELL, THERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE WILL BE VOTING ON, UH, ME AS CHAIR FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.

WE'LL START AT THE TOP COMMISSIONER LANE.

YES.

COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ.

YES.

COMMISSIONER HOSTEL FLOOD.

YES.

COMMISSIONER WEBER.

YES.

COMMISSIONER BERNHARD.

YES.

COMMISSIONER SIERRA YES.

AND THEN COMMISSIONER LEWIS.

YES.

AND I WILL VOTE YES AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I AM NOW OFFICIALLY YOUR CHAIR FOR THE NEXT YEAR WITH, UH, THE ASSISTANCE OF VICE CHAIR, RAMIREZ.

THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND FOR YOUR SERVICE AND VERY MUCH WELCOME AND EXCITED ABOUT OUR NEW MEMBERS THAT WE WILL HAVE TRICKLING IN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

AND THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR WEBER FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT OVER THIS LAST YEAR.

OH, RIGHT, RIGHT.

UM, WITH

[4. Future Agenda Items]

THAT, WE ARE A LITTLE BIT EARLY AND WE HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO I WILL START.

SO TWO THINGS THAT ARE HOT ON MY TOPIC LIST IS, UH, THE SEARCH FOR THE NEW POLICE CHIEF, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, UM, CHIEF CHECON HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE AS THE, UM, UH, TEMPORARY AUSTIN POLICE CHIEF AS THE SEARCH FOR A NEW POLICE.

CHIEF GOES ON, I HAVE, UH, SENT NOTES TO ACM ARIANO AND TO THE SUPPORTING STAFF ASKING, UM, FOR US TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS AS THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION.

I, UM, WILL ALSO REQUEST THAT THEY PRESENT TO US NEXT MONTH.

THIS MONTH, UNFORTUNATELY WAS FILLED WITH BUDGET PRESENTATIONS.

AND OF COURSE WE HAVE 15 EXTRA MINUTES, BUT THAT WAS GOING TO BE CUTTING IT A LITTLE BIT CLOSE.

SO, UH, HIGH ON MY LIST IS, UH, THE SEARCH FOR THE POLICE CHIEF.

SO A PRESENTATION OF THE PROCESS, HOW IT'S GOING, WHAT THE PROCESS IS, AN UPDATE ON HOW WE CAN BE INVOLVED IS HIGH ON MY LIST.

AND SECONDLY, I HAVE, UM, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CAROL JOHNSON WHO IS THE NEWLY HIRED, UH, CHIEF CIVIL RIGHTS OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

SO SHE AND I HAD A CONVERSATION AND WE ARE PLANNING ON HAVING HER COME TO PRESENT HER 90 DAY PLAN, UM, AND HER, HER OFFICE AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SOME VERY POSITIVE OUTCOMES IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND, UH, CIVIL RIGHTS.

SO VERY EXCITED THAT THE CITY HAS FUNDED AND STAFFED THAT OFFICE AND VERY EXCITED TO SEE HOW WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER.

SO, UM, HER 90 DAY PLAN PROBABLY WILL NOT BE READY UNTIL I THINK JUNE I'LL SEE IF SHE'S AVAILABLE FOR ME, BUT DEFINITELY JUNE.

UH, AND THEN WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS WITH THE OPO THAT WE HAVE REQUESTED THAT WILL BE COMING IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

AND I'LL PULL UP MY EMAIL AND I'LL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THOSE ARE.

ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER TOPICS WE'D LIKE TO PUT ON THE LIST? COMMISSIONER SIERRA, ALLAH, PLEASE.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY VOTED ON THE SUPPORT FOR VARIOUS ITEMS INCLUDED IN THE 20, THE COMING YEARS, A AGENDA FOR THE APD.

I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARITY ON THE SCOPE OF WORK, UH, OF DR.

BNY, WHO TO MY UNDERSTANDING HAS BEEN WORKING WITH APD FOR SOME TIME.

UM, I'D LIKE SOME, SOME SENSE OF THE DELIVERABLES THAT SHE PRODUCES FOR THE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD MERIT A MOVEMENT FROM HER CURRENT WORK STATUS TO THIS 0.5 FTE.

THANK YOU, MR. BURNHARD.

UM, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, A NEW CADET CLASS.

I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE TRAINING PLAN, UH, BEFORE WE HAVE A CADET CLASS.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE WORKING ON REDOING THE TRAINING OR SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING ON REDOING THE TRAINING.

UM, I THINK WE ALL DESERVE TO SEE WHAT THE PLAN IS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RAMIREZ.

UM, I ECHO COMMISSIONER BERNHARDT ON THAT AND I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE RECOMMENDATIONS

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THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THE TASK FORCE WITH REGARDS TO THE CADET TRAINING.

CAUSE THAT'S THE, ONE OF THE BIGGEST MISSING ELEMENTS SO FAR.

UM, AND THEN ALSO JUST SORT OF PLANTING A SEED FOR A FAR FUTURE ITEM, NOT NECESSARILY SOON, BUT I, ALL OF OUR TALK, UM, OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS ABOUT THE DISPARITIES AND TRAFFIC STOPS JUST HAS LIKE A BUG PLANTED IN MY EAR ABOUT CIVILIAN TRAFFIC PATROLS.

UM, SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WOULD, I WOULD NEED SOME HELP SORT OF THINKING THROUGH AND EVERYTHING, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE, UM, AN EXCITING SORT OF JUST DISCUSSION AND SORT OF DIVE, DIVE IN.

HOPEFULLY.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH, UM, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FLANAGAN BEFORE HE LOST HIS ELECTION, WAS TALKING ABOUT WHAT CAN ACTUALLY BE MOVED INTO CIVILIAN PATROL FROM THE POLICE, UH, BUDGET AND ANY CIVILIAN INTERACTION.

AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TOO FAR DOWN THAT ROAD.

UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE THE CONNECTION THAT WE HAD WITH, UH, CITY COUNCIL ON THE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE HAS, HAS KIND OF BEEN DILUTED, UH, BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE OF, OF, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, QUITE FRANKLY.

SO IT'S ON MY LIST TO TRY TO GET THAT CONNECTION AGAIN.

AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT CONVERSATION TO HAVE AND TO, TO FLESH OUT BEYOND CIVILIAN TRAFFIC, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT, BUT THERE WAS ALSO THINGS LIKE, UH, ALARMS AND OTHER THINGS THAT APD CURRENTLY HANDLES THAT WE FEEL THAT, THAT UNARMED, UH, YOU KNOW, STAFF COULD HANDLE THAT INSTEAD OF APD.

SO YEAH, VERY GOOD POINT.

THANK YOU.

THEY ALSO, THIS IS A SMALL THING, BUT THEY ALSO SHOW UP IF YOU HAVE, UH, SOME LIQUID COME OUT OF YOUR CAR AND, UH, IT'S NASTY ON THE STREET AND THE FIRETRUCKS COME UP WITH SAND TO LIKE ABSORB THE LIQUID.

BUT IF YOU NEED A, UM, THEY MAY NOT STILL DO THIS, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU NEED A TOW, THE POLICE SHOW UP TO BASICALLY WAIT FOR THE TOW TRUCK TO SHOW UP SO THAT YOU DON'T GET THE WRONG TOW TRUCK.

CAUSE THEY'RE AUTHORIZED TOW TRUCKS IN AUSTIN, WHICH, OH, BECKY JUSTIN SAYING, IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS SINCE THIS COMMISSION GOT INTO THE TOWING SITUATION IN AUSTIN, BUT MAYBE AT THIS TIME AGAIN, IT'S SUPER WEIRD.

I'M JUST SAYING A CIVILIAN COULD WAIT FOR YOUR TOW TRUCK WITH YOU.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

YEP.

IT COULD BE, IT COULD HELP WITH THE OVERTIME ISSUE.

UH, LET'S SEE.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT LOOK INTO, UM, CHAIR I'D LIKE TO HAVE, HAVE SOMETHING ADDED TO GO BACK OVER WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE ICE STORM.

UH, WE GOT A LOT OF CITIZENS STILL STRUGGLING AFTER THAT.

WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T GET INFORMATION WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND WENT OUTSIDE OF IT.

SO I'D LOVE US TO JUST TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT AND MAYBE HEAR FROM SOME FOLKS THAT WE DO HAVE WITH RE-IMAGINING FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PROVIDE ACCESS.

I JUST FEEL LIKE WE HAD NO FOLLOW UP ON ANY OF THAT AND LOVE TO HEAR IT IF WE COULD.

YEAH.

I, UM, I HAVE THAT IN MY INBOX TO TALK TO COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON, AND SOME, UH, SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY RESILIENCE TRUST THAT BASICALLY ENDED UP DOING A LOT OF WORK AROUND ACTUALLY DELIVERING FOOD AND WATER AND THEN GETTING PEOPLE TO SAFETY AND MORE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I THINK PART OF THAT WOULD BE SORRY TO INTERRUPT RUCKING.

UM, WE SHOULD INCLUDE THE FACT THAT THE CITY MANAGER, UM, I, YOU KNOW, TH THE POLICY, THE CITY OF AUSTIN EVIDENTLY WAS JUST TO FILL IN THE CRACKS AND THAT IT REALLY WAS TO RELY ON VOLUNTEERS.

YEAH.

AND I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT WE SHOULD ALSO COMMEND OUR CITIZENS FOR HOW THEY FILLED IN THE GAPS OF WHERE WE HAVE YET TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE.

I THINK THAT PEOPLE FEEL UNSEEN IN THIS WORK AND ALTHOUGH THE CITY HAS WORKED VERY HARD TO PUT A LOT OF THINGS IN PLACE IT'S STILL FAILED US.

AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO LIKE LET THE CITIZENS KNOW THAT WE SEE THEM AND APPRECIATE THEIR WORK IN THIS.

UH, AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT IN A MORE FORMAL CAPACITY CHAIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WONDERFUL.

UM, THE OTHER THINGS FROM THE OPO OFFICE IS WE WILL HAVE A TASK FORCE UPDATE, UH, SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE EIGHT COUNT WEIGHT.

UM, UH, UH, WHAT FRAMEWORK THAT WE WERE WORKING ON WITH APD.

I THINK THEY WILL HAVE IT, UH, SOMETIME THIS MONTH IT'LL BE FREE JUNE, JUNE.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER ITEMS, ANYTHING MISSING, ANYTHING WE NEED TO REVIEW? OKAY.

SO, UM, WE WILL DOCUMENT

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THESE TOPICS, GET THEM ON.

AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, I WILL SEND OUT, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR US AROUND THE BUDGET.

PLEASE KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR YOUR CITY EMAILS WITH THAT BUDGET.

WE WILL NEED TO GET IT APPROVED VIA EMAIL TO SEND TO COUNCIL BEFORE THE, UM, MAY 7TH DEADLINE.

I REALLY DON'T WANT TO WAIT UNTIL OUR MEETING.

I'D LIKE TO DO THAT IN THE INTERIM, PLEASE.

THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

MR. RAMIREZ QUESTION, ARE WE GOING TO GET TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET, LIKE THE COMPLETE BUDGETS THAT THEY'RE SUBMITTING BEFORE? LIKE, ARE WE GOING TO GET ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT OFFICIALLY IN MAY? OR IS THIS IT, THIS IS IT.

OKAY.

SO I WILL, UM, TALK, YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE DETAIL OF THE BUDGET THAT WE ASKED FOR AS WELL.

YEAH.

AND I WILL MAKE SURE YOU GUYS GET THAT IN YOUR INBOXES.

AND IF THE CHIEFS ARE STILL ON IT, THINK IT AT THE VERY LEAST MAKE SURE THAT WE GET FORWARDED LIKE THE FINAL FIGURES.

CAUSE I KNOW THAT WHAT THEY PRESENTED TODAY IS STILL IN PROGRESS AND NOT FINALIZED.

SO IF WE COULD PLEASE GET THOSE FORWARDED, UM, PLEASE SOON, PLEASE, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, MS. JACKSON, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO REVIEW IN THE LAST SIX MINUTES? OR AM I GOOD TO ASK FOR, UM, YOUR MOTION TO ADJOURN? I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE WITHIN THE LAST SIX MINUTES ON THE AGENDA TO ADD.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

DO I HAVE A MOTION, MOTION TO ADJOURN? I HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER.

SARAH LAVELLA.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND WE HAVE TO GO AND FROM THE TOP COMMISSIONER POSSIBLY? YES.

YES.

COMMISSIONER BERMUDEZ.

YES.

COMMISSIONER LANE.

YES.

COMMISSIONER BERNHARD.

YES.

COMMISSIONER WEBER.

YES.

I BELIEVE WE LOST COMMISSIONER LEWIS.

I DON'T SEE HER.

WELL, IT WE'LL TAKE HER AS AN ABSTENTION AND I VOTE.

YES, WE ARE OFFICIALLY ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE BUDGETS, UH, CONVERSATION AND YOUR, UM, SERVICE TO THE COMMISSION.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

GREAT MEETING.

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