Apr 20, 2021 Zoning and Platting Commission

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IT'S 15.

[Call to Order]

NINE OF US.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD FIRST AND WE HAVE A QUORUM AND GO AHEAD AND FIRST AND ALL THE ROLE.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER ACOSTA PRESENTING I'M HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER BRAY.

YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ON MUTE.

UM, MISSIONER DINKLER PRESENT TRICKING, UH, COMMISSIONER KOBASA IS OUT OF TOWN TODAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER RAY.

SURE.

SMITH, DEAR MR. THOMPSON HERE.

AND COMMISSIONER WOODY HERE.

EIGHT.

THANK

[Consent Agenda (Part 1 of 2)]

UM, OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO GO OVER THE CONSENT AGENDA.

A ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM MARCH 16TH, 2021 AND APRIL SIX, 2021 B ONE IS A REZONING C 14 2020 ZERO +1 518-401-8707 SOUTH FIRST STREET.

AND THAT IS A RECOMMENDED OR, UM, MF 2021 ZERO ZERO ONE SIX NORTH WIND APARTMENTS THAT ONE'S RECOMMENDED.

B3 IS C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO SEVEN EIGHT HIGH 0.6 20 AT 2222 ALSO RECOMMENDED, UM, BEFORE IS C 1420 2001 FOUR SIX 11 705 RESEARCH BOULEVARD, ZONING, AND THAT'S RECOMMENDED TO BE WITH STAFF POSTPONEMENT REQUESTS TO MAY 4TH, 2021.

AND I WANT TO BACK UP, SORRY, B ONE.

ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS REQUESTING A POST-MOMENT TO MAY 18TH AND ON.

SO IS C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO TWO POINT S H JUNIPER CREEK.

AND THAT'S RECOMMENDED FROM YOUR M U C O FOR TRACT ONE AND L O M U FOUR.

TRACK TWO IS ZERO C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO TWO FOUR.

TECH RIDGE LIQUOR STORE IS RECOMMENDED, UH, B SEVEN COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDREW RIVERA.

YES.

HI, I'M I APOLOGIZE TO INTERRUPT.

CAN YOU PLEASE JUST HOLD JUST ONE MINUTE, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITIZEN LINE, UH, IS AN AUDIBLE.

OH NO.

WHEN I SHOULD PROCEED, DID YOU READ IT THE MINUTES ITEM FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? YOU DID A, YOU ARE NO LONGER MUTED.

I'D LIKE TO HOLD THEM FOR AN AMENDMENT.

OKAY, JUROR, I APOLOGIZE TO DO THIS BETTER.

WE NEED TO, IF WE CAN GO BACK TO SURE.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE A ONE MINUTES ARE BEING POOLED, THEN WE'LL GO B ONE, UM, C 14 2020 ZERO ONE FIVE EIGHT FOUR OH ONE TO EIGHT, FOUR SEVEN SOUTH FIRST STREET.

AND THAT IS, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS POSTPONING A RE UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 18TH.

UM, RECOMMENDATION OF MF FOR O B2 IS C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO ONE SIX NORTH WIND APARTMENTS.

AND THAT ONE'S RECOMMENDED.

B3 IS C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO SEVEN EIGHT HIGH 0.6 20 AT 2222 RECOMMENDED BEFORE IS C 14 2020 ZERO ONE 46 AT 11 SEVEN OH FIVE RESEARCH BOULEVARD, ZONING RECOMMENDED, BUT A STAFF POSTPONEMENT IS REQUESTED FOUR TO MAY.

FOURTH, 2021, B FIVE IS C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO TWO POINT S H JUNIPER CREEK AND RECOMMENDATION OF G R M U C O FOR TRACK ONE AND L O M U FOUR.

TRACK TWO B SIX IS C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO TWO FOUR.

TECH RIDGE LIQUOR STORE IS RECOMMENDED B SEVEN S P 2020 ZERO TWO SEVEN FOUR D AT 33 THREE THREE SIX MOUNTAIN MANEL ROAD IS RECOMMENDED APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS.

UH, B EIGHT S IS C EIGHT TO 2020 ZERO ZERO THREE SEVEN.

MARSHALL RANCH PRELIMINARY PLAN IS ALSO RECOMMENDED WITH CONDITIONS AND B NINE C EIGHT 2018 ZERO

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THAT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA BESIDES, OKAY.

IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? HEARING NONE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA DONE.

I DO HAVE TO ADD THAT AND B EIGHT WERE BOTH, UH, APPROVED IT'S CONDITION WITH CONDITIONS, RIGHT? SO IT LOOKS LIKE MR. SMITH HAS BEEN EMOTION AND COMMISSIONER KING, ARE YOU SECONDING HIS SENTENCE SECOND, BUT I'D LIKE TO JUST CLARIFY IF I COULD.

UM, SO B SEVEN IS A STAFF AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION CONDITIONS.

THERE ARE BOTH ARE CONDITIONS FROM STAFF AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITION.

I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT IT'S BOTH OF THOSE, CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND, UM, OKAY.

AND, UH, SO WHEN, WHEN DO A CHAIR, I'M MAKING A SECOND ON THAT AND WHEN DO WE, UH, UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND ON AN ITEM, WHEN DO WE SAY THAT TO, WHEN DO WE TELL THEM? I WOULD SAY NOW, BEFORE WE VOTE FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY.

AND SO I AM GOING TO NOW, SO THE, THE POSTPONEMENT ITEMS B ONE AND, UH, THERE WAS ANOTHER POSTPONEMENT ITEM BEFORE, BEFORE, RIGHT.

ARE THOSE, UH, ON CONSENT ALSO? NO DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

AND, UH, ALRIGHT.

AND, UM, BEFORE, WHAT WAS THE POSTPONEMENT DATE FOR MAY 4TH AND B ONE IS MAY 18TH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ABSTAIN FROM .

YEAH.

HANG ON.

I'M SORRY.

THERE'S ONE MORE ITEM.

I'M GOING TO HAVE STAIN ON AND I NEED TO PULL IT UP HERE SO I CAN GET THE RIGHT NUMBER.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IT'S A, B FIVE AND B TWO, I'M SORRY, B TWO.

AND I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN WHY I MAKE STAINING THOSE.

I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE SMART HOUSING IS GOING TO WORK, HOW THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING IS GOING TO WORK AND WHAT THE AFFORDABILITY PERIOD IS ON THOSE.

UH, SO WITHOUT THAT INFORMATION, ALTHOUGH I DO AFFORD, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN SUPPORT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

I JUST FEEL THAT THERE ARE, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION WHEN THESE CASES COME TO US SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND HOW LONG THE AFFORDABILITY PERIOD IS ON, ON BOTH OF THESE CASES.

I WORRY THAT THAT AFFORDABILITY AFFORDABILITY PERIOD IS ONLY GOING TO BE FIVE YEARS AND THEN THERE'LL BECOME MARKET RATE UNITS.

SO I JUST WANT, THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN ABOUT THOSE TWO ITEMS. ALTHOUGH I DO SUPPORT THE INCOME RESTRICTED, AFFORDABLE HOUSING BEING PROPOSED IN BOTH OF THOSE, THOSE CASES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIR FOR LETTING ME GET THAT ON THE RECORD.

SURE.

OKAY.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OH, I'M SORRY.

A CHAIR CHAIR.

I'M SORRY.

THERE WAS ONE MORE.

I'M SORRY.

AND COULD YOU PLEASE SHOW ME VOTING? NO.

ON ITEM B A B A AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED SEVERAL COMPONENTS THAT DO NOT COMPLY WITH LDC AND THEY'RE DOCUMENTED, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONDITIONS THEY'RE SAYING THEY HAVE TO CURE THOSE, THOSE NON-COMPLIANT ITEMS, BUT AS THEY STANDS BEFORE TODAY, THAT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THOSE TWO COMPONENTS OF THE LDC.

AND SINCE THE LAW REQUIRES ME TO STATE, I'M GOING TO SAY WHAT THE TWO AREAS ARE, THE, THAT IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH.

I'M REQUIRED TO GIVE YOU THE LTC NUMBER, THE LDC 25 DASH EIGHT SUB CHAPTER A, UH, THAT IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH, UH, THE, UH, RIGHT AWAY FRONTAGE FOR LOT 40.

UH, AND ALSO THE, UH, IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH LDC 25 , UH, SLOPED BUILDINGS BEING CONSTRUCTED AND SLEPT AT A GREATER THAN 15%.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO SPECIFIC CONCERNS I HAVE ABOUT THAT CASE.

AND SO I'M VOTING NO ON THAT CASE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

IS THIS, DO WE NEED TO HAVE MORE OF A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD PULL? DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THAT? WELL, THERE WAS ONE OTHER POINT, THE ALTERNATIVE METHOD OF COMPLIANCE REQUESTS FOR THE FIRE PROTECTION PLAN HAS BEEN REJECTED BY I'M ASSUMING THAT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OFFICE THERE, SO THAT THOSE THREE THINGS CONCERN ME A LOT ABOUT THAT CASE.

SO I'M GOING TO VOTE NO, ON THAT CASE, I'M NOT PULLING THE CASE.

I'M JUST VOTING NO ON IT.

OKAY.

THANK DID ANYONE, ANYONE ELSE? YES.

COMMISSIONER WOULD YOU'RE ON MUTE.

YEAH.

CAN YOU HEAR ME AND KNOWING THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT DAVID WAS SAYING AS WELL.

OKAY.

I'M, I'M FEELING A LITTLE

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I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO DISCUSS MORE OR WE'RE OKAY WITH IT BEING ON THE YES.

COMMISSIONER DINKLER AND, UM, I WANNA MOVE TO POSTPONE THE ITEM FOR TWO WEEKS.

UM, OKAY.

OKAY.

SO LET'S GO ONTO META SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

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UM, IS ANYONE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT, MR. DELA GARSA ARE YOU ON THE LINE? IS THERE A REASON TO POSTPONE IT RATHER THAN HEAR IT? UH, UH, YOU'VE JUST HAD, UH, SOMEONE INDICATE THAT HE DOESN'T MEET CODE, SO, UM, WE COULD HEAR IT, WE COULD POSTPONE IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT, UH, THE LIABILITIES MIGHT BE FOR THE COMMISSION.

SO, UM, I'M AFRAID OF POST PABLO WILL RESULT IN AN AUTOMATIC APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT.

UM, WITHDRAW THE MOTION IS STAFF PREPARED, PRESENT, AND CAN WE START WITH THE, UH, WHETHER IT WOULD BE AN AUTOMATIC APPROVAL WE PUT ON THE REST OF IT.

THANKS.

WE CAN, ANDREW, DO YOU KNOW IF STAFF IS AVAILABLE? CHAIRMAN CONFIRMED THAT.

OKAY.

SO LET'S VOTE ON THE REST OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AND GIFT.

YEAH.

AND INCLUDING THE MINUTES YES.

SO

[Consent Agenda (Part 2 of 2)]

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER SMITH AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KING.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SHARE COMMISSION LAYS ON AMBER AS THE COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER KING ABSTAINED ON AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE CONSENTED.

IT, IF WE CAN HAVE A SECOND, WE NEED A SECOND FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

AND THAT LOOKS UNANIMOUS.

OKAY.

SO,

[A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

UM, IF THIS IS FOR THE MINUTES, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A, UM, AN AMENDMENT TO THE MINUTES.

I WANT TO REFLECT THAT THE MAIN, THERE WAS A MAIN MOTION FOR MF TWO THAT WAS OFFERED BY COMMISSIONER KING SECOND.

AND, UH, BY COMMISSIONER WOODY, THE MOTION FAILED ON FOUR TO FIVE VOTES.

AND THAT WAS FOR THE APRIL 6TH MINUTES.

UH, IT WAS FOR THE F TWO APARTMENTS.

UM, AND I'M SORRY, I WROTE THIS DOWN AND I DIDN'T DRAG MY MINUTES.

MY NUTS IN HERE.

UH, ANDREW, WHICH IS THE MAY 16TH.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S THE, UH, THE MARCH 2ND MEETING.

MARCH 2ND MEETING ITEM B ONE.

THERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

SO IT'S A MOVING AN AMENDMENT FOR THE MARCH 2ND, UM, MINUTES ITEM B ONE, A MAIN MOTION WAS FOR MF TWO, UH, MADE BY COMMISSIONER KING SECOND BY WOODY.

AND THE MOTION FAILED ON A FOUR TO FIVE VOTES NEEDS A SECOND.

AND THEN A MAJORITY VOTE.

IF FOLKS FAVOR THAT I'M A LITTLE, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE WE'RE THE MINUTES THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US ARE MARCH 16TH AND APRIL 6TH.

SO YOU'RE SAYING IT WAS BEFORE THEN? UH, I'M SORRY.

WAS IT MARCH 16TH? I'M LOOKING AT, I'M LOOKING AT THE MOM, SORRY.

IT'S THE MARCH 16TH MEETING.

I'M SORRY, BUT IT'S THE MINUTES FOR THE MAY MARCH 2ND MEETING.

I'M SORRY.

SO THE MINUTES THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US IN MARCH ON MARCH 16TH, BUT THEY WERE FOR THE MINUTES FOR MARCH 2ND.

AND THIS WAS FOR THE F T P APARTMENT DISTRICT.

YEAH, CASEY 14 DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE THREE ONE FTP APARTMENTS, ITEM B

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AND, AND THE, THE, THE, UH, IT WAS FROM OUR MARCH 16TH MEETING IN WHICH WE WERE APPROVING THE MINUTES FOR THE MARCH 2ND MEETING.

AND SO THE CORRECTIONS THAT SHE'S MAKING SHE'S, UH, COMMISSIONER GENTLER IS, UH, UH, SUGGESTING HERE IS FOR THE MINUTES TO THE MARCH 2ND MEETING, WE'RE MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO THAT.

ARE WE POSTED CORRECTLY FOR THE MINUTES? SORRY.

YEAH, MARK IT'S YES.

I THINK WE ARE MARCH 16TH AND APRIL 6TH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

HEY THEN.

UM, AND I'M SECONDING THE, HER EMOTION.

OKAY.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UM, REVISION OF THE MINUTES AS NOTED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

THANK YOU.

UH,

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OH, I THOUGHT THE POSTPONEMENTS WERE INCLUDED IN THE CONSULTANT.

I'M SORRY.

THEY WERE FORGIVE ME.

OKAY.

BA CHAIR, COMMISSIONER.

VERY.

I'M STILL REACHING OUT TO STAFF.

OKAY.

LOOKING AT THE BACKUP, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT THEY ADDRESS ALL THE ITEMS IN THEIR REPORT AND STAFF DOES THAT MEAN STAFF IS COMFORTABLE IN THAT, BUT THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO GETTING NEW MODEL OF BREAST AND IT CAN BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY VERY QUICKLY.

UM, WHICH IS WHAT CONCERNS THAT IF WE DENY IT, THEN IT WOULD BE STATUTORILY APPROVED BECAUSE OF THE 30 DAY TIMEFRAME.

BUT THE FACT THAT THEY DO HAVE TO ADDRESS ALL THE COMMENTS AND CLEAR THEM ALL BEFORE THEY ARE TECHNICALLY APPROVED BASED ON THE BACKUP AND THE CONDITIONS ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

I THINK COMMISSIONER RAY RAISED HER HAND.

OH, GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

[E. COMMITTEE REPORTS & WORKING GROUPS]

YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

COOL.

UM, SOME OF THE SMALLER AREAS, JOINT SUB COMMITTEE LAST WEEK, UM, PRETTY PACKED AGENDA.

ONE ITEM WAS IN THE EAST RIVERSIDE CORRIDOR ORIGINALLY EXCLUDED FROM A BOUNDARY WITHIN THAT PLAN.

AND WE RECOMMENDED TO PUT IT INSIDE THAT PLAN'S BOUNDARY SO THAT IT COULD PARTICIPATE IN A DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM THAT OTHERWISE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN KOSHER DUE TO THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY.

UM, WE ALSO HEARD A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION, NO ACTION TAKEN, BUT JUST ABOUT A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PROPOSED, UM, SORT OF LIKE BETWEEN CESAR CHAVEZ AND FIFTH STREET IN THAT WEIRD LITTLE INDUSTRIAL SLICE.

AND SO THAT'LL GREATLY UPGRADE, UM, THAT AREA AND INTEGRATE WITH A LOT OF THE PERKS BASED OFF OF IT.

UM, REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION.

AND THEN FINALLY, WE GOT A STAFF UPDATE ON SEVERAL SMALL AREA PLANNING PROJECTS.

SO WE'VE GOT ONE ON THE PALM DISTRICT, UM, THEN PROPOSED NORTHEAST REGIONAL STUDY, UM, SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, AND THEN THE EQUITABLE TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PLANNING AROUND THE BLUE, ORANGE AND GREEN LINES OF THE PROJECT CONNECTED INVESTMENT.

SORRY, I WAS GONNA SAY, ARE THOSE PRESENTATIONS AVAILABLE? I THINK I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE THOSE IF THEY'RE ABLE TO BE SHARED.

YEAH, I CAN BOARD THEM ALONG.

I DON'T THINK IT'S LIKE TOP SECRET MATERIAL OR ANYTHING.

GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

AND, UH, JUST TO ADD ON, UM, TO, UH, THE, UH, MR. RAY'S COMMENTS THERE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER ASPECTS OF THE ITEM THAT WE DISCUSSED ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS THE, UM, UH, THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM WAS, UH, THE WORK THAT THE COUNCIL IS DOING NOW TO RECALIBRATE THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS IN SEVERAL AREAS OF THE CITY HERE.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S VERY GOOD THAT THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND, UH, LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO GET, TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO GET MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MORE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO WITH THESE DEVELOPMENTS, UM, AND TO, AND TO ALSO EXPAND IT.

SO IT INCLUDES, UH,

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SO I THINK THAT THAT GIVES US, UH, SOME HOPE THAT WE CAN GET SOME, SOME REAL MONEY HERE TO, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS I BRING UP REGULARLY, WHICH IS TO HAVE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE INCOME, RESTRICTED HOUSING IN OUR CITY, SO THAT THAT'S VERY GOOD NEWS AND I HOPE THAT THEY MAKE A FAST AND GOOD PROGRESS ON THAT.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

UM, SO WE'RE ON ITEM E RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL JUST KEEP GOING WITH THAT.

UM, AND WE MIGHT HAVE TO COME BACK TO C AND D BUT, UM, CODES AND ORDINANCE JOINT COMMITTEE IS ACTUALLY MEETING TOMORROW.

SO THAT'S EXCITING.

UM, IS THERE, UH, IS THERE A REPORT AT ALL ABOUT, UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE LAN OR THE ONION CREEK GROUP AND LOCALIZED FLOODING GROUP THERE'S UPDATES TO SHARE? OKAY.

SO ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION C1 IS ABOUT DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING MATTERS RELATED TO ANY PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING TO DISCUSS.

THERE ARE D ARE THERE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS WE NEED TO DISCUSS OR CONSIDER ADDING TO FUTURE AGENDAS? MR. KING? THANK YOU, CHAIR.

I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON LAST, OUR LAST MEETING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A REPORT FROM THE DEMOGRAPHER, AND, UH, THAT'S AN ITEM WE'D ALREADY ASKED TO BE PUT ON OUR FUTURE AGENDA, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP AGAIN JUST TO A CHAIR, JUST TO FIND OUT IF IT'D BE OKAY.

THAT, UH, IF, IF, UH, FOR YOU TO ASK FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO, TO SEND INPUT TO ANDREW ON WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHER, WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE DEMOGRAPHER.

OKAY.

I KNOW WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.

I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BREAK QUORUM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT MYSELF AND ASKING FOR EVERY, YOU KNOW, I'D BE HAPPY TO COMPILE THAT.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORK ON ANYBODY.

IT SHOULD BE ENTERED.

RIGHT.

BUT, UH, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S OKAY.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT THAT WAY WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO THE DEMOGRAPHER AND, AND, UH, FOR OUR FUTURE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

SURE.

AND I DID DISCUSS THIS BRIEFLY WITH ANDREW.

I UNDERSTAND THAT SHE HASN'T STARTED YET, SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHEN SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO US.

IT MIGHT BE A FEW MONTHS.

I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY WHEN SHE STARTS WORKING.

SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO GIVE HER A LITTLE TIME BEFORE SHE'S ABLE TO PRESENT, BUT IF YOU THINK OF QUESTIONS IN THE MEANTIME, CERTAINLY SEND THOSE TO ANDREW.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GUIDE HER IN WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT CHAIR COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDREW RIVERA.

SO, UM, I THINK THERE WAS SOME MISCOMMUNICATION, THE DEMOGRAPHER HOUSE STARTED, BUT WE ARE EXPECTING THE RELEASE OF NEW CENSUS DATA AND STAFF WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE WHEN THEY PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION, UH, THE, UM, LATER IN THE SUMMER.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL PLAN FOR A LATE SUMMER PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

HAVE WE HEARD FROM MR. DELA GARSA OR SOMEONE ELSE FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT CAN PRESENT TO BE A SURE.

I'VE NOT, UM, HAD A RESPONSE FROM STAFF.

I AM INQUIRING WITH THE LAW IF THEY SEE AN ISSUE WITH POSTPONING.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IT'S TRYING TO HAVE A RECORD, LIKE A MEETING.

I APOLOGIZE.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, THIS PROJECT IS FOR I WATER TOWER IN LOSS CREEK.

THAT'S GOING TO HELP BOOST THEIR PRESSURE UP AND PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION.

YEAH.

IT'S NOT CURRENTLY PROVIDED.

AND SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT LAST CRE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN DESPERATELY NEED, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BOOST THE PRESSURE WITH A NEW ELEVATED STORAGE TANK AND PROVIDE MORE FIRE PROTECTION.

UM, WHICH I THINK IS WHY STAFF IS SAYING, WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH, WE'VE GOT SOME MINOR COMMENTS.

WE WANT TO GET THOSE ADDRESSED AND WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE ADMINISTRATIVELY AND THEN APPROVE THE PROJECT AND STAFF WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A 30 DAY DELAY OR SOMETHING.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND THAT I KNOW ABOUT THE PROJECT.

AND, UM, OKAY.

UM, AND THE ISSUE FOR LAW WAS THE 30 DAY PROVISION.

UM, MR. ORBERA CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, I'M COMFORTABLE APPROVING IT WITH THE CONDITION THAT STAFF MAKES THEM COMPLY WITH THE SUBMITTED THE REPORT AND ADDRESS ALL THE COMMENTS.

I SAID IT WOULD BE OUR DIRECTOR TO STAFF.

LIKE YOU HAVE TO CLEAR ALL COMPETENCE BEFORE YOU COULD APPROVE THIS THING.

UH, DO YOU MAKE THAT EMOTIONAL SECOND? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM B WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

THOSE ITEMS HAVE TO BE CLEAR BEFORE THE PRODUCT IS APPROVED.

CHECKING, THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UH, ON, UH, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO JUST SAY, I'M NOT, I'M NOT BRINGING THESE ISSUES UP TO OPPOSE THIS.

I'M NOT OPPOSING.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO HERE.

I JUST WORRY ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDENT WHERE

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AND I JUST WORRY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED DOWN THE SLIPPERY SLOPE OF MORE AND MORE OF THESE COMING IN LIKE THIS.

AND I, I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF I, IF I'M SUPPOSED TO APPROVE THESE PLANS THAT COMPLY WITH CODE, AND YET I'M NOT, I'M PROVING SOMETHING WITH A PROMISE THAT IT WILL COMPLY WITH CODE THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE LAW IS.

THE DOLL DOESN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHY I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.

I'M NOT AGAINST THIS PROJECT OR WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE.

I MEAN, THIS IS A UNIQUE ITEM BECAUSE ITEM NINE ON OUR AGENDA IS THE EXACT SAME THING.

IT'S A FINAL PLAT OUT OF A PRELIM, BUT IT'S SO FAR AWAY FROM MEETING CODE THAT WE'RE BACK OF RECOMMENDING DENIAL WITH CONDITIONS.

ITEM EIGHT IS EXTREMELY CLOSE TO BEING APPROVABLE.

AND SO THEY'RE SAYING THAT AS TECHNICAL APPLICANTS, THE APTA SAYS, YES, WE CAN ADDRESS ALL THESE THINGS.

WE JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, TWO DAYS TO GET EVERYTHING FILED.

THEY CLEARED UP.

SO THAT'S OKAY.

WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THEM TO CLEAR, HEY, BUT NINE IS, IT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY.

THEY'RE SAYING, NOPE, NOT GONNA DO IT STATUTORY TO NOW WITH CONDITIONS.

THOSE DO NEED TO, WE CAN HAVE BOTH, BOTH ITEMS BACK TO BACK ON THE AGENDA.

SO THAT'S WHY I FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH WITH A MAKING THE MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT WITH THE CONDITIONS THEY MEET, ALL STAFF REQUIREMENTS.

IS THERE A WAY TO ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS? THEY WANT TO PROVE IT IF THEY DON'T.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

THEY WON'T ISSUE YOU THE PERMIT.

SURE.

YES, ANDREW, THAT MOTION IS INAPPROPRIATE.

IT CAN NOT BE A CONDITION.

OKAY.

UM, BUT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS.

SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE MAKING STAFF RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, THOSE CONDITIONS ARE YOU COMPLY WITH THE STAFF REPORT, WHICH HAS ALL THE ITEMS THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

SO I'M JUST MIRRORING STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

IF WE COULD JUST KNOW THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

I'M MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

PEOPLE SAYING THE SAME THING, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALL CORRECT.

WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING, BUT LEGALLY I AM APPROVING WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT FRIENDLY TO YOU? COMMISSIONER DINKLER YES.

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UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ITEM B EIGHT, UH, WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION, ALTHOUGH AS OPPOSED ABSTENTIONS.

OKAY.

DID WE HAVE SEX? YES.

OKAY.

YOU BOUGHT IT? YES.

CORRECT.

DAN? YEAH.

OKAY.

WELL, THAT'S ALL I HAVE JUST CORRECT.

AND IT WAS SEVEN TO THREE.

AS I, AS I COUNTED, THERE'S ONLY NINE OF US ON, SO IT CAN'T BE SEVEN THREE.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YOU VOTED FOR IT.

OKAY.

I'M I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING YOU ARE DAVID AND I REALIZED THERE'S ONLY NINE OF US ON HERE.

IT CAN'T BE SEVEN THREE OF YOU.

HEY, WELL HEARING NOTHING ELSE.

I THINK WE'RE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU EVERYONE ON YOUR FIRST MEETING.

YOU GUYS.

BYE.

BYE.

I SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.

I LOVE YOU.

AND YOU GOT ME HOOKED ON YOUR REAL FOR REAL.

I'M GONNA TELL IT LIKE IT IS.

THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE.