Apr 21, 2021 Environmental Commission

YOU'RE COMMISSIONER LAMBERG COMMISSIONER GUERRERO HERE.

COMMISSIONER BURMA.

YEP.

AND COMMISSIONER BEDFORD HERE.

EXCELLENT.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR AGENDA.

WE ARE GOING TO, UH, LET'S JUST ADDRESS CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

PEOPLE ARE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

OUR VICE CHAIR WILL CALL ON THEM.

WE HAVE A LIST OF PEOPLE HERE THIS EVENING THAT ARE GOING TO BE PARTICIPATING AND, UM, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ONE.

THE ITEM ON FORWARD

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES AND ACTION]

APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM APRIL 7TH, 2021.

I NEED A MOTION.

MADAM CHAIR.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

MOTION FROM COMMERCIAL RAMBLERS.

AND WHO WAS ALBERT BRIMMER? KRILL.

OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

KAREO COMMISSIONER KRILL.

COMMISSIONER COIN, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

ANY CHANGES? ANY EDITS, UPDATES, HERRING SEEING NONE.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.

JUST SAY HI, RAISE YOUR HAND.

AYE.

I LIKE HEARING YOUR VOICES.

MOTION CARRIES SIX OH OH OH.

[2a. Election of Environmental Commission Officers for the May 1, 2021 through April 30, 2022 term (10 minutes)]

ITEM TWO.

ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

ELECTION OF ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSIONER OFFICERS FOR THE MAY 1ST, 2021 THROUGH APRIL 30TH, 2022 TERM STAR.

WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, AND SECRETARY.

UM, AND WE WILL TAKE NOMINATIONS.

UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL START WITH CHAIR AND I WILL MOVE IT TO THE VICE CHAIR, THAT ELECTION.

UM, SO IF THERE'S NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR, PLEASE PROCEED.

UM, I WOULD MOVE THAT WAY.

JUST KEEP THE SAME OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE.

THEY'RE ALL GREAT.

UM, I, I THINK THIS IN THE SPIRIT OF ME RUNNING THINGS WHILE WE DO THE CHEER NOMINATE OFFICERS, AT LEAST FOR NOW, UH, WE HAVE ONE NOMINATION FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER GUERRERO HERE, ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR? GREAT.

UM, THEN I GUESS, CAN WE NEED TO DO A FULL ROLL CALL? UM, VICE-CHAIRS CHRIS HARRINGTON ENVIRONMENTAL, SIR.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL IT, THERE IS NO OBJECTIONS.

SO AS LONG AS YOU'VE ASKED FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT, THEN THE, THAT CONCLUDES THE, UH, OFFICER ELECTION OR FOR CHAIR.

ANY OBJECTION TO MAINTAINING THEM HERE, MR. GUERRERA NO.

GREAT.

WELL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE WITH YOU AND WE'RE SO EXCITED THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO SERVE AS CHAIR.

I LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU EVERY TIME WE INTERACT IN, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU'VE BECOME A MENTOR FOR ME AND FOR SUCH A LEADER FOR THIS COMMISSION.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SWEET WORDS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I REALLY DID.

THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT ONE MORE YEAR.

I SAID, I CAN'T GO BUY A SLATE BECAUSE OF PROCEDURE, BUT I AM VERY HAPPY WITH ALL OF THE OFFICERS I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM ALL TO CONTINUE.

SO THEN WE'RE GOING TO NEXT HAVE NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.

DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? WELL, AS

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SO IF THERE'S NO PROBLEM, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO PLEASE SERVE AGAIN, NO OBJECTIONS.

I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES.

ANYONE HAVE A FROWN ON MY FACE.

THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS AND WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER COIN FOR ALL HER HARD WORK AND THE MANY THINGS SHE DOES FOR OUR COMMISSION SERVING IN OTHER CAPACITIES AND REPRESENTING US ON OTHER, UH, UH, UH, COMMITTEES FOR US AND BRINGING IT BACK FORWARD PORTS AND, UM, UH, ALSO ENJOY HAVING YOU, UH, CONTINUE PUSHING US FORWARD WITH SUSTAINABILITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST SECRETARY, OUR VERY VITAL SECRETARY.

THING ON THE LIST IS COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP.

MUCH BARRETT.

I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE THE ONE, THE ONLY, UM, COMMISSIONER KEVIN RAMBLER TO CONTINUE SERVING AS SECRETARY.

HE SEEMS TO BE A MASTER OF WORDS AND HAS BEEN DOING THE JOB WONDERFULLY.

I CONCUR.

HE'S VERY GOOD AT HELPING US WITH OUR EMOTIONS AND HAVING THEM PREPPED AND READY TO GO.

AND THEN WE THROW THINGS AT HIM.

HE DOESN'T PANIC.

HE JUST KEEPS TRYING TO DEAL WITH ALL OF OUR, UM, COMMENTS AND CONDITIONS.

SO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LAMPARD MUCH APPRECIATED THEN.

WELL, SO WITH NO JEFF JONES, UH, WE WILL CARRY ON WITH THIS SLATE OF OFFICERS, UM, CHAIR, FROZEN PERMISSION, GUERRERO, VICE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER, UM, HORN, AND THEN SECRETARY COMMISSIONER LAMBERT.

SOUNDS GREAT.

THANKS.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT

[2b. Discuss committee memberships (10 minutes)]

WE ARE STILL LACKING SEVERAL, SEVERAL POSITIONS.

UM, I KNOW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN APPOINTED BY COUNCIL AND THEY'RE JUST FINALIZING THE FEW STEPS THAT ARE LEFT TO, UH, COME FORWARD AND BE A PART OF OUR COMMISSION.

SO WE'RE KIND OF, SORT OF HANGING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF TONIGHT, UH, I REALLY FEEL THE URBAN FORESTRY SHOULD CONTINUE AND I'M GOING TO FIGHT TO KEEP THAT COMMITTEE STRONG.

BUT, UM, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO DO IS TO, UH, SEE IF MAYBE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME PODS COMING UP AND WE DON'T HAVE THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT, WHAT'S THE NAME OF OUR COMMITTEE? I'M SORRY, SOMETHING DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THIS IS KAYLA CHAMPION WATERSHED PROTECTION.

UH, SO THE COMMITTEE YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE URBAN GROWTH POLICY AND WATER QUALITY PROTECTION COMMITTEE.

AND, UH, ONE THING ABOUT THE COMMITTEES IS THAT THEY DO NEED TO MEET ON A QUARTERLY BASIS AND SUBMIT ANNUAL REPORTS.

AND SO, UM, MY SUGGESTION TO THE CHAIR WAS THAT WE CONSIDER MAKING THAT COMMITTEE, A WORKING GROUP MEETING THAT WAY, UH, ALL COMMISSION MEMBERS CAN ROTATE OUT, UM, AND MEET AS A WORKING GROUP ON PUDS OR OTHER DEVELOPMENT RELATED OR WATER QUALITY PROTECTION RELATED ITEMS AS THEY COME UP.

UM, AND THEN THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A FORUM OR A CHAIR.

UM, JUST TAKE THOSE ITEMS UP AND BASED ON, UH, DIFFERENT MEMBERS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN, IN ITEMS AS, AS THEY OCCUR, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND THE THING IS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SENDING IN COURT A SUMMARY FROM THESE COMMITTEES, NORMALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR BYLAWS REQUIRED THAT WE MEET QUARTERLY.

SO, UM, WE'RE KIND OF BEING OUT OF ORDER HERE WITH THAT.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? UM, KEEPING THEM, UH, URBAN FORESTRY AND PROCEEDING WITH THAT AND TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET MEMBERSHIP AND THEN AS NEEDED HAVING WORKING GROUPS TO ADDRESS OTHER, UM, IMPORTANT, UH, ITEMS THAT POP UP THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE ON AND, UH, HEAR PRESENTATIONS AND LOOK AT WITH TREMENDOUS DETAIL, MADAM CHAIR.

THIS IS RAM BERG.

GOT, I THINK IT SOUNDS GOOD.

YOU KNOW, BEING A MEMBER OF URBAN GROWTH POLICY AND WATER QUALITY PROTECTION COMMITTEE, IF IT'S A WORKING GROUP, I THINK THAT SOUNDS FINE.

I THINK IT'S, IT'S HARD FOR US TO MEET, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING GOING ON ANYWAYS.

SO YEAH, I THINK YOU CAN GIVE IT, GIVE THAT, UH, GIVE THAT A RUN FOR A YEAR AND SEE HOW IT GOES.

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I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.

SO IS ANYONE GOING TO OBJECT? IF NOT, I'M JUST GOING TO SIT IN WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT.

THAT TAKES US NOW TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[3a. a. Name: Braker Valley Subdivision]

OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS THREE, A RIKER VALLEY SUBDIVISION C EIGHT DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE ONE TWO APPLICANT, CHRIS RAWLS, B G E E LOCATION AT 48 OH SIX ROAD, AUSTIN, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT SEVEN FIVE FOUR.

THIS IS IN DISTRICT ONE.

WE HAVE STAFF IS GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, AND THEN AFTER SHE MAKES HER PRESENTATION, OUR, UM, VICE CHAIR WILL CALL ON THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE WAITING TO TALK AND SPEAK TO THIS ITEM.

PLEASE PROCEED MS. ALL ALBIE YES, YES.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, SO THIS IS PAMELA AB TALI ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

THE VARIANCE REQUESTS FOR THIS PROJECT IS TO GRADE MORE THAN FOUR FEET FOR THE DETENTION AND WATER QUALITY POND IN A SUBURBAN WATERSHED CONSTRUCTION OF A WATER QUALITY CONTROL OR DETENTION FACILITY IS ACCEPTED FROM THE GRADING LIMITS OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 25 EIGHT THREE 41 AND THREE 42, UNLESS THE GRADING IS LOCATED WITHIN 100 FEET OF A CLASSIFIED WATERWAY.

THIS PLAN PROPOSES GRADING OVER FOUR FEET FOR THE STORM WATER POND, WHICH ACTUALLY IN CHANNEL.

SO IT'S DEFINITELY, UH, CLOSE TO THE IF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, OF THE WATERWAY.

UM, BUT THIS, UH, PLANNED DOES PROPOSE GRADING OVER FOUR FEET FOR THE POND.

FOR THREE REASONS.

ONE IS DUE TO SITE CONSTRAINTS TOO, BECAUSE AN IN-CHANNEL WET POND IS ALLOWED BY CODE AND THREE BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA, MANUAL DEPTH REQUIREMENTS FOR A WET POND.

SO THE TWO SITE CONSTRAINTS ON THE SITE ARE THAT, UH, TWO CONSTRAINTS THAT LIMIT OPTIONS FOR POND LOCATION ARE ONE THAT THERE ARE TWO WETLANDS ON THE SITE, WHICH THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO PRESERVE IN A 30 ACRE AREA SET ASIDE FOR MITIGATION.

THIS COMPRISES 18% OF THE 165 ACRE SITE.

THE SECOND CONSTRAINT IS BREAKER LANE, WHICH BISECTS THE SITE WITH A 120 FOOT, RIGHT OF WHEN THE CODE ALLOWANCE FOR AN IN-CHANNEL WET POND IS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 25, EIGHT 61 F WHICH ALLOWS WET PONDS TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN A WATERWAY CHANNEL.

FINALLY, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA MANUAL DEPTH REQUIREMENTS FOR WET PONDS IS THAT THEY HAVE A PERMANENT POOL DEPTH OF SIX TO EIGHT FEET.

THEREFORE WHEN THE WET POND IS IN CHANNEL, UNLESS THAT CHANNEL NATURALLY HAS RATHER STEEP SLOPES, IT'S DIFFICULT TO DESIGN IT WITH LESS THAN FOUR FEET OF GRADING.

CONSEQUENTLY, OUR CURRENT PLAN ENDS UP WITH BOTH GRADE, UH, BOTH CUT AND FILL OVER FOUR FEET OR FOUR FEET, RIGHT? IN CONCLUSION, THE PROPOSED DESIGN DOES NOT POSE AN ENVIRONMENTAL DANGER, DOES NOT DIMINISH THE LEVEL OF WATER QUALITY AND IS THE MINIMUM DEVIATION FROM THE CODE FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS STAFF SUPPORTS THE VARIANCE REQUEST.

IS THE APPLICANT GOING TO BE SPEAKING HERE AND IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS I'M TOLD, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK HAS REQUESTED TIME TO SPEAK, IS THAT RIGHT? UM, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, UH, ON THIS ITEM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS REGARDING THIS ITEM, MR. THOMPSON, THERE WAS 10.

UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT FOR ROSS? YES.

DAN, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THERE WERE NO TREES.

UM, WHAT EIGHT INCHES IS THAT CORRECT? THERE DEFINITELY.

W W WOULD HAVE BEEN A TRUE SURVEY DONE FOR THIS, UH, BUT THERE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN IN THIS AREA, CHRIS.

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CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES.

UM, YEAH, THERE WAS A TREE SURVEY DONE.

THE AREA THAT THIS IS ALL IN IS ALMOST ENTIRELY THREES.

UM, THERE WAS A, THE TREE SURVEY WAS FOR 19 INCHES AND GREATER, WHICH IS WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS, BUT, UM, EVEN SMALLER ONES, JUST ANECDOTALLY, UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT IN THIS AREA BECAUSE IT IS PRIMARILY A FLOOD PLAIN AND, AND SORT OF FLAT GRAZING AREA IT'S BEEN USED FOR AGRICULTURE.

SO THERE WERE NO TREES LOCATED THAT ARE CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT TREES.

UM, AND THERE'S NOT REALLY A WHOLE LOT OF FOLIAGE OF ANY KIND.

SO IT'S INCORRECT.

THE INFORMATION WE WERE GIVEN, THERE WAS A TREE SURVEY DONE, BUT IT JUST WAS NOT INCLUDED.

AND IT'S CHECKED NO HERE I'M, THIS IS PAMELA.

IT'D BE TOTALLY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, I AM NOT SURE WHERE IT SAYS NO, THERE THERE'S ALWAYS A TREE SURVEY DONE UNLESS THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO TREES AT ALL.

SO THERE WAS A TREE SURVEY DONE AND I APOLOGIZE IF IT WERE, IT WAS MISREPRESENTED IT'S ON PAGE FIVE, PAGE FIVE.

I WAS A LITTLE CURIOUS IS WHY I'M ASKING.

YEAH, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS, SO THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM.

SO ARE WE READY FOR SOME SORT OF MOTION ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.

MOTION TO CLOSE THE POP OF KEN SECOND RAMP.

CALLING ALL IN FAVOR.

OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO, UH, SHALL WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A MOTION FOR THREE A, I HAVE A MOTION.

MA'AM JUST REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE COMMISSIONER AMBER SAYS THAT, UM, I THINK WE'RE AT EIGHT OH, UH, CRITICAL ON THE BONE.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

THANK YOU EIGHT.

ON THE SUBJECT BREAKER VALLEY SUBDIVISION C EIGHT DASH 2020 DASH ZERO ONE ONE TWO.

WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING VARIANCES FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 25 DASH THREE FOUR ONE TO ALLOW CUT OVER FOUR FEET TO 11 AND A HALF FEET AND REQUESTING VARIANTS FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 25 DASH EIGHT THREE FOUR TWO TO ALLOW PHIL PER FEET TO A HEIGHT OF 17 FEET.

WHEREAS THE OFFICER RECOGNIZES THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS VARIANCE WITH CONDITIONS, HAVING DETERMINED, THE REQUIRED FINDINGS OF FACT HAVE BEEN MET.

THEREFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING TWO STAFF CONDITIONS.

NUMBER ONE IN TWO LOCATIONS WHERE ROADWAYS CROSS THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE CULVERTS WILL BE PROVIDED FOR THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF THE HALF CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.

THIS ALLOWS THE FLOW PINCH POINT OF A SINGLE NARROW COVERT AVOIDS, RIGHT? THIS AVOIDS THE FLOW PINPOINT OF A SINGLE NARROW OVER ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND STAFF CAN JUST TAKE IT FOR, TO REVEGETATION FOR ALL AREAS OF THE STORM WATER POND THAT ARE NOT COVERED BY DAM SAFETY REGULATIONS.

WE VEGETATED WITH STANDARD SPECIFICATION MANUAL 609 S NATURAL NATIVE SEEDING AND PLANTING FOR RESTORATION USING A SELECTION OF LOW GROWING NON WOODY VEGETATION.

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WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BEDFORD.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEMS? WELL, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THERE IS A LIST OF OUR PACK UP AND I DID A QUICK SCAN OVER IT IN A VERY, VERY LARGE MAJORITY OF MAKE SURE YOU'VE BEEN THERE OR CEDAR TREES, UM, AND NON, UH, I WOULD SAY 99% OF THEM ARE NON-NATIVE.

UM, SO IF THAT HELPS ALLEVIATE SOME OF COMMISSIONER THOMPSON'S CONCERNS, UM, TH THERE DOES APPEAR TO CONFIRM WHAT, UM, THE SPEAKER, ET CETERA.

HERE WE COMMISSIONER KRILL.

COMMISSIONER BARRETT.

WICKLER YES.

MR. THOMPSON.

COMMISSIONER RANDBERG YES.

COMMISSIONER POINT YES.

COMMISSIONER GUERRERO.

COMMISSIONER BRIMMER.

COMMISSIONER BEDFORD.

NEXT UP IS THREE, UH, FM SIX 20 AND ANDERSON MILL ROAD.

MOTION CARRIES THREE, EIGHT, EIGHT.

OH, ALL RIGHT.

LET ME GET BACK TO MY AGENDA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, STAFF.

ALRIGHT.

[3b. Name: 1076 Springdale, SP-2019-0385C]

WATER WASTEWATER SE OUR NUMBER FOUR SIX FIVE TWO.

AM I IN ORDER? OKAY.

I SEE NOW.

SORRY.

I PAUSED TO CUT AND PASTE THIS ON.

WOULDN'T PRINT IT.

I SEE IT NOW.

CAN IT FOR ANOTHER YEAR? SO YOU'RE FINE.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

THREE B, HERE WE GO.

I LOST IT AGAIN.

OH, OKAY.

10 76 SPRAINED OUT AS P DASH 2019 DASH ZERO THREE EIGHT FIVE C LOCATION AT 10 76 SPRINGDALE ROAD, AUSTIN, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT SEVEN TWO ONE DISTRICT ONE.

AND I, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF.

AND IS THE APPLICANT HERE? ARE, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT COMMISSIONER, DAVE ANDERSON HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

SO WE HAVE DAY BADNESS IN REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

SHALL WE PROCEED WITH STAFF PRESENTATION? GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

UM, HANK MARLEY HERE, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'LL BE PROVIDING A SUMMARIZED PRESENTATION OF THE CASE OF 10 76 SPRINGDALE CASE NUMBER SP 2019 ZERO THREE EIGHT FIVE C.

THE SITE IS LOCATED AT 10 76 SPRINGDALE ROAD WITHIN THE TANNAHILL BRANCH WATERSHED OF THE URBAN WATERSHED REGULATION AREA.

IT IS NOT LOCATED OVER THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE, THE SITE TO THE CORNER LOT AND PROPOSES DRIVEWAY CONNECTIONS TO BOTH ROADWAYS, THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE SITE FROM OAK SPRINGS.

DRIVE CROSSES A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, WHICH REQUIRES A LAND USE COMMISSION VARIANCE TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 25 EIGHT TWO SIX ONE TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT IN A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY IS THE AREA THAT CROSSES THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE IS APPROXIMATELY 475 SQUARE FEET IS ROUTINELY MOWED AND DEVOID OF RIGHT PARENT HABITAT.

THIS IS A MINIMUM DEVIATION FROM CODE REQUIREMENTS NECESSARY TO ALLOW A REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY.

THEREFORE, STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE REQUIRED FINDINGS OF FACT, HAVEN'T MET AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, ALL LANDSCAPE AREAS AND ANY AREAS DISTURBED DURING CONSTRUCTION TO BE PLANTED WITH NATIVE SPECIES TO THE CENTRAL TEXAS REGION AND TO BE SELECTED FROM CITY OF AUSTIN, GROW GREEN MANUAL.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ARE TO ASK QUESTIONS TO THE, UM, APPLICANT THAT'S BEING REPRESENTED TO NOT, I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS A THREE MINUTE PRE-BUILT

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PATIENT.

DO WE WANT TO HEAR THAT AND THEN ASK QUESTIONS OF BOTH? IS THAT OKAY? THAT'S FINE.

PROCEED.

I WOULD SHARE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS DAVE ANDERSON AND I'M REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON THIS PROJECT.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO GO THROUGH THE SLIDES.

UM, SO COULD I GET SOME DIRECTION FROM CITY HALL OR FROM YOU MADAM SHARE ON HOW DAVID KNOW WHERE I AM, DAVE, YOUR COVER SLIDE, THE TITLE SLIDE IS UP.

SO IF YOU JUST WANT TO TELL US TO ADVANCE THIS, THE NEXT SLIDE WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO MOVE ON.

THANKS CHRIS.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

UH, THIS IS JUST AN OVERALL, UM, AERIAL OF THE SITE EXPERIENCE DRIVE ON THE NORTH, UH, TRAVELING EAST AND WEST SPRINGDALE ROAD, UM, ON THE EAST PART OF THIS, OF THE, UH, PROPERTY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 4.04 ACRES.

THANK YOU TO THE THANK YOU.

THIS IS A QUICK MAP OF THE ZONING.

UM, THIS IS IMPORTANT WHEN CONSIDERING, UM, THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHICH IS AN OFFICE PROJECT.

NEXT SLIDE.

IT SHOULD BE THE REQUEST SLIDE WE'RE REQUESTING DEVELOPMENT, ANY CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.

IT'S NECESSARY TO PROVIDE A DRIVEWAY ONTO OAK SPRINGS DRIVE, UH, THE MAIN POINTS THAT I WANT TO MAKE, AND IT'LL BE BECAUSE I'M A HYDROLOGIST, BUT EDUCATION IS A CRITICAL WATER.

QUALITY ZONE IS SOLELY AN ARTIFACT OF THE 10 HILL BRANCH FLOOD.

PLAIN CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE DOES NOT CONTAIN CHARACTERISTICS ASSOCIATED WITH THE REPAIRING ENVIRONMENT.

AND BY MY CALCULATIONS, WE'RE AT FOUR 69.4 SQUARE FEET OR 475 SQUARE FEET AND STAFF PRESENTATION OF A TOTAL SIDE AREA OF 175,900 TO 982 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS 0.2, 7% OF THE SITE.

AND IT IS IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

STAFF SUPPORTS US WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE AGREEABLE TO THE APPLICANT.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, I THINK HERE, I JUST HIGHLIGHTED PERVIOUS COVER WHERE AT 57.1% WITH THEM WHILE THE MAXIMUM IS 90%, UH, WE'RE EXCEEDING THE WATER QUALITY TREATMENT, UH, ZONE WE'RE USING INNOVATIVE WATER QUALITY MANAGEMENT.

WE'RE NOT REMOVING ANY HERITAGE TREES.

UM, THERE ARE 79 OTHER DRIVEWAYS CONSTRUCTED IN THE CRITICAL WITHIN A HALF A MILE RADIUS OF THIS SITE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE SHOULD BE SITE CHARACTERISTICS.

IT'S JUST A TABLE THAT SUMMARIZES WITH SPECIFIC NUMBERS, HOW WE ARE PROPOSING TO EXCEED CODE IN MANY, MANY, UM, SITUATIONS.

UH, NEXT SLIDE IS JUST A QUICK SCREEN GRAB SHOWING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DRIVEWAYS LIKE WE'RE BEING LIKE WE'RE ASKING FOR 79 OF THEM IN A HALF MILE RADIUS.

NEXT SLIDE.

UH, I HOPE YOU'RE KEEPING UP WITH BIG SET, THREE MINUTES.

UH, SOME CRITICAL WATER QUALITY IS ON FACTS.

IT'S COINCIDENT WITH THE FLOOD PLAIN BY DEFINITION COVERT UNDER 10, A HILL BRANCH, AS IT GOES UNDER EXTREME DRIVE IS, UH, UNDERSIZED.

AND THEREFORE YOU CAN SEE THE WATER BACKING UP TO KEVIN'S DISTRICT PARK.

SO BECAUSE THEY'RE DEAF COULD HAVE A LOT OF QUALITIES OF IS DEFINED A LOT WITH THE FLOOD PLAIN, YOU SEE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, COMPLETELY ENCOMPASSING SPRING STRIVE, UM, AND IT EXHIBITS NO CHARACTERISTICS, TRADITIONAL, UH, CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES EXHIBIT.

UM, THE NEXT SLIDE IS ENTITLED STREAM BUFFER OBJECTIVES.

THIS IS FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRITERIA MANUAL, UM, MOSTLY HEALTHY SOILS AND VEGETATION ALONG THE CREEK CORRIDOR AND ALLOWING THE STREAM ADEQUATE SPACE TO MIGRATE OVER TIME, STRING BUFFERS, HELP CONTROL, FLOOD IMPACTS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

AND THE LAST PORTION OF THAT SLIDE, UM, GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT HOW OUR REQUEST DOES NOT IMPACT THE STREAM DOES NOT IMPACT, UM, THE WATERWAY IN ANY NEGATIVE FASHION AND CLEARLY, UM, IS NOT GOING TO BE, UH, DETRIMENTAL TO THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND I THINK THAT'S MOST EVIDENT WHEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND YOU SEE VISUALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT IS TRULY A MOWED CRESSEY AREA THAT EXHIBITS NO RED PAIRING CHARACTERISTICS OR ENVIRONMENT THIS, UM, THE SMALL 475 SQUARE FEET TIME'S EXPIRED.

IF YOU WANT TO JUST CONCLUDE IT THEN PLEASE.

UH, YES, SIR.

CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THEN CHRIS, AND LEAVE THAT UP AND I WILL JUST, UM, LEAVE IT THERE.

WE FEEL THAT THIS IS, UH, APPROPRIATE REQUESTS THAT ARE GRATEFUL FOR STAFF WORKING WITH US AND THEIR SUPPORT ON THIS REQUEST.

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ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, MR. HARRIS, UH, COMMISSIONER CORNER.

ARE THERE ANY, UH, CITIZENS THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE AND DON'T BELIEVE? UH, NOPE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE BUT NONE OF IT.

ANY QUESTIONS? SHALL WE TAKE IT FIRST WITH CITY STAFF? UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR WATERSHED PROTECTION STAFF ON THIS ITEM, MR. THOMPSON? HI.

UM, I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE 47 SLIDE 47 ON THE VARIANCE PACKET, PLEASE.

AND I'D LIKE FOR, IF YOU COULD PUT THAT ON THE SCREENS, IF STAFF COULD DO THAT, PLEASE, WE JUST SAW IT.

I'M SORRY.

COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

WE DON'T HAVE IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO THE ENTIRETY OF THE VARIANCE PACKET.

DID YOU SEE SOMETHING IN THE SLIDE PRESENTATION FROM, UM, MR. ANDERSON THAT YOU REFERENCED RIGHT? THE PAGE JUST BEFORE THIS WAS PAGE 47 OR GO BACK A BIT IT'S UM, THE THREE CREEKS AND THE BLUE AREAS THAT IS, UM, THAT ONE.

IF YOU WOULD STOP THERE FOR A MINUTE AND HAVE STAFF EXPLAIN TO US, UM, AT THE TOP OF THIS, THERE ARE THREE KEY CREEKS.

AND COULD YOU JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BLUE AND WHICH WAY THE CREEKS FLOW AND SO FORTH? UH, HEY, MORLEY AND BARMAH REVIEW HERE AGAIN.

UH, SO I, I WOULD NEED TO PULL UP MY MAP, BUT, UM, SO IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THESE ARE ALL TRIBUTARIES IN THE TANNAHILL BRANCH WATERSHED, AND THEY ARE ALL FLOWING, UM, UH, SOUTH WORDLY THERE TOWARDS, UH, COLORADO, WHATEVER.

SO WE HAVE BLUE THERE AND, UM, THIS SITE IS TOTALLY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BLUE AND IT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.

SO I KNOW THAT WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF OTHER DEVELOPED SITES IN THIS AREA, BUT I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT THE, IS THIS ATLAS 14, THIS IS OR GO, HAS THAT DAVE ANDERSON, DID YOU WANT TO, YEAH.

MR. MARLEY, UH, MR. THOMPSON, THIS SIDE IS DEFINITELY ATLAS 14 COMPLIANT AND IT'S STRANGE CALCULATIONS.

AND WHAT YOU SEE, UM, EXHIBITED ON THE SLIDE.

I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, OH, I THINK I SEE IT ON THE SCREEN NOW.

SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THIS SITE IS ACTUAL TENILLE BRANCH.

AND WHAT YOU SEE AT OAK SPRINGS DRIVE, YOU'LL SEE A LINE IN THE BLUE KIND OF FLOODPLAIN AREA THAT GOES ALMOST STRAIGHT EAST TO WEST.

AND THAT IS, UM, THE FLOOD PLAIN, THE ATLAS 14 FLOOD PLAIN WHEN, UH, FLOODING CONDITIONS OCCUR AND, AND THE WATER THAT GOES TO THE RIGHT OF THE SITE, UM, IS FROM, UH, OVERTOPPING OF THAT CHANNEL, UH, IN THE EXTREME 100 YEAR, UM, UH, FLOOD EVENT.

THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN MODELED BY, UH, PER THAT WAS 14 REQUIREMENTS.

SO THIS, THIS, THIS, UM, COURSE OF THE CREEK HAS BEEN MODELED.

UM, AND PAM, YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT I USED TO DO THIS.

IT'S BEEN MODELED, UH, SCIENTIFICALLY, UM, THROUGH REFLECT, UH, THE EXTREME CONDITIONS THAT HURRICANE HARVEY, UM, KIND OF, UH, NECESSITATED THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT, THAT WAS 14 PROGRAMS. SO WE DEFINITELY TAKE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLANATION.

UM, I WANTED TO ASK STAFF IF WE'VE HAD ANY PROBLEMS HISTORICALLY WITH FLOODING OVER THERE AT SARAH AND DEADMAN ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THIS, YOU CAN SEE SARAH DRIVE AND DEADMAN, AND I FORGET WHAT THE LITTLE STREET IS THAT'S CLOSEST TO SPRINGDALE.

IS THIS A SITE THAT'S BEEN PROBLEMATIC? UM, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, THIS IS LIZ JOHNSTON, DEPUTY ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER.

WE WOULD NEED TO, UM, LOOK INTO THAT AND GET, GET BACK WITH YOU.

UM, BUT THE, THE, THE PROJECT AT HAND, UM, IS REQUIRED TO MEET ALL REQUIRED DETENTION AND NOT, UM, INCREASE, UM, ANY OR NOT CAUSE ANY ADVERSE IMPACT TO, UH, TO THE FLOODING.

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UM, I WAS JUST POINTING OUT THAT, UM, WE ARE DEVELOPING THIS SITE THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW, I W I WAS A LITTLE HURT BY, UM, I KNOW TAMMY HILL IS CEMENT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE DOING AN ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING JOB OF DESIGN AND SO FORTH.

AND, UM, I MEAN, I'M REALLY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT, UM, WE DO HAVE A CEMENT CREEK THERE, AND I, I KIND OF, WHEN I WAS READING, IT WAS A LITTLE UNHAPPY BECAUSE IT SAID IT WAS ENCUMBERED BY THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS NO QUALITY HIGH QUALITY IN THE WETLANDS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE ON THE EAST SIDE.

AND WE HAVE HAD HISTORICALLY, I MEAN, TAMMY HILL IS A CEMENT TROUGH.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WERE DOING SUCH A FINE DESIGN JOB AND, AND SO FORTH, BUT, UM, AND, AND SAVING THE HERITAGE TREES.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S REALLY COOL WHAT YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE DOING THERE.

I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

I JUST, I DON'T KNOW, I, WITH JILL BEING NEAR A CREEK AND I AM, I'M JUST WONDERING IF, UM, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, IS THERE SOME SORT OF A CONDITION REGARDING YOUR CONCERNS? IS IT EROSION OR THE FLOODING THAT'S, THAT'S MAKING YOU FEEL SO UNCOMFORTABLE? UM, I WAS WORRIED ABOUT, UM, THE WORK THAT THAT LAND DOES, AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO A GOOD JOB WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND TRYING TO PRESERVE THAT.

AND I UNDERSTAND IT, AND THAT'S NOT EVEN WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

I WAS JUST SAYING THAT WE ARE BUILDING SO NEAR TO A CREEK AND I'M REALLY PRAYING FOR THE BEST, AND I, I APPRECIATE THEIR DEVELOPMENT DOING THE BEST IT CAN TO PRESERVE THE HERITAGE TREES AND THE SITE DESIGN AND, AND SO FORTH.

IT'S JUST THAT AS I WAS READING IT, IT, IT JUST KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST CONCERNED ME THE LANGUAGE.

I MEAN, WHAT I SEE AS A BLESSING THEY SEE AS A FLAW, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

SO I, I, COMMENTS THERE'S NOT A PARTICULAR CONDITION OR SOMETHING WANT STAFF TO SPECIFICALLY DO MORE.

EXACTLY.

I JUST WISH THAT THE, THE PROJECTED ATTITUDE TOWARDS THE EAST SIDE WAS, UM, A LITTLE MORE POSITIVE.

THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY, MR. THOMPSON, IF I MAY, DAVE ANDERSON REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, PERHAPS IT'S A POOR CHOICE OF WORDS.

UM, BUT, UM, PER THE, UH, CONDITIONS THAT STAFF HAS LAID OUT, WE WILL BE, UH, RESTORING OF THE AREA IN, IN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, UH, WITH NATIVE VEGETATION.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, UH, TREATING THE CREEK APPROPRIATELY AND ALLOWING IT TO FUNCTION MORE MO MORE, UM, MORE LIKE A TRADITIONAL RIPARIAN ENVIRONMENT, WE WILL BE RESTORING SOME OF THOSE AREAS, SUCH THAT IT GETS THE ATTENTION THAT IT NEEDS, AT LEAST FROM OUR SIDE ON OUR DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SO, UM, I'VE JUST GOT A NOTE FROM OUR ENGINEER THAT, THAT WE ARE REMOVING INVASIVES TO THE GREATEST EXTENT THAT WE CAN, IN SOME SITUATIONS, THERE ARE HACKBERRY TREES AND OTHER VEGETATION, OR LET'S JUST SAY HACKBERRY TREES AND TREES OF THAT NATURE, THAT WE'RE NOT REMOVING TO TRY TO BALANCE CANOPY AND A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, BUT WE, WE ARE GIVING ATTENTION TO THOSE AREAS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT.

AND I, I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE WOULD TEAR OUT THE CEMENT CREEK THAT IS TANNEHILL BRANCH, BUT, UM, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

SO YOUR, YOUR EFFORTS TO DO THE BEST YOU CAN AND THERE, UM, OR APPRECIATE IT.

SO I JUST, I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT, OKAY, THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

AND PERHAPS, UH, YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEND A LIST OF THE DIFFERENT PLANTS YOU WILL BE USING

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AT THAT PROJECT AND THE, THE RESTORATION, AND THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A NICE GESTURE.

AND, BUT I WANT TO MOVE ON.

SHE'S MADE HER COMMENTS, AND I THINK WE'RE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THEM.

AND, UM, UH, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO SAY, UH, COMMISSIONERS HANK MARLEY AGAIN, UM, JUST WANTED TO SAY TOO, THAT, UM, ALL OF THE, UH, SITE WILL BE, UH, FLOWING INTO A, UH, A BIOFILTRATION RAIN GARDEN, WATER QUALITY POND AS WELL.

UH, AND FURTHERMORE, UH, EVEN THOUGH THE, UH, THE CREEK, THERE IS MOSTLY CONCRETE, THERE ARE SOME, UH, FUNCTIONING WETLANDS THAT ARE BEING PROTECTED AS WELL, AND THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED QUITE A BIT OF A WETLAND MITIGATION AND TREE PRESERVATION, REMOVAL OF INVASIVE SPECIES AND REPLANTING QUITE A BIT OF A NATIVE SPECIES AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MR. MORLEY.

AND I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THIS POINT THAT WE JUST HAD THAT LIST OF WHAT'S BEING USED AND PROPOSED, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A NICE GESTURE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT'S, IT'S, UH, UM, SHOWS, SHOWS HOW BEAUTIFUL AND HOW RESTORATIVE IT'S GOING TO BECOME.

ANYTHING ELSE? BECAUSE I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF WE'RE AT THAT POINT, I'M SURE THIS WAS REMEMBERED.

CAN I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING? IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND BREMMER ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT.

OH, KRILL STOLEN.

MOTION, MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU'RE READY.

PLEASE PROCEED ON AGENDA ITEMS. THE SUBJECT TENS EVANS DICKS SPRINGDALE SP DASH 2019 DASH ZERO THREE EIGHT FIVE C.

WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE FROM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 25 DASH EIGHT DASH TWO SIX ONE TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT INSIDE THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.

AND WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS VARIANCE WITH ONE CONDITION.

HAVING DETERMINED, THE FINDINGS OF FACT HAD BEEN MET.

THEREFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THE VARIANCE REQUEST WITH THE FOLLOWING STAFF CONDITION WITH ONE CONDITION, ALL LANDSCAPED AREAS AND ANY AREAS DISTURBED DURING CONSTRUCTION TO BE PLANTED WITH NATIVE SPECIES TO CENTRAL, TO THE CENTRAL TEXAS REGION, AND TO BE SELECTED FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN GROW GREEN EMMANUEL.

SECOND, THANK YOU, BEDFORD.

ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S DO ROLL CALL MR. CRILL.

COMMISSIONER LAMBERG YES.

COMMISSIONER BARRETT.

COMMISSIONER GUERRERO.

COMMISSIONER BREMER.

COMMISSIONER BEDFORD.

MOTION CARRIES EIGHT.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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AND NOW I'M GOING TO GET BACK TO MY AGENDA AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE THREE C AND, UH, I'M SURE THIS IS RAMBLE.

I'M GOING TO RECUSE ON THIS ONE ITEM.

LET ME WRITE THAT DOWN.

UM, BURGERS WERE USING, UM, AND COIN.

I AM GIVING THE APPLICANT AN EXTRA MINUTE DURING THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.

SO THAT WILL BE A TOTAL OF FOUR MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

AND, UM, AND WE ALSO DO HAVE, UH, BOBBY LEVINSKY HERE TO SPEAK ON THE SIDE.

RIGHT? DO WE WANT HIM TO GO NOW METAMATERIAL, WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION FIRST, IF YOU COULD GIVE US JUST ONE MOMENT TO LOAD THAT PLACE.

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GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS KAYLA CHAMPLIN WITH THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT, AND I'LL BE PRESENTING ON THE FM SIX 20 AND ANDERSON MILL ROAD, WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS.

UH, CAN YOU SEE THE PRESENTATION ON THE SCREEN? GREAT.

GOOD.

SO TONIGHT STAFF ARE REQUESTING THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS SURFACE EXTENSION REQUEST.

IT IS SCHEDULED TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION ON MAY 5TH.

AND IT WILL SUBSEQUENTLY GO TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

A SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS OR SCR IS AN APPLICATION FOR CITY WATER OR WASTEWATER SERVICE FROM A PROPERTY OWNER OR DEVELOPER.

AN SCR IS REQUIRED WHEN THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED MORE THAN 100 FEET FROM AN ACCESSIBLE WATER OR WASTEWATER SYSTEM, OR WHEN EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE ISN'T ADEQUATE FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

DEMANDS SERVICE MAY INVOLVE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW LINE OR AN ASSOCIATED FACILITY OR UPGRADES TO EXISTING LINES OR FACILITIES.

THE APPLICANT PAYS FOR ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE AS OUTLINED IN THE SCR PER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SCRS REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL.

IF THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY'S FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION REVIEWS AND MAKES THE RECOMMENDATION ON SCRS THAT REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL.

AND FOR THE NEW COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVEN'T REVIEWED, REVIEWED THESE BEFORE, UM, SCRS ARE DIFFERENT FROM, UH, LAND USE COMMISSION VARIANCES IN THAT RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS CANNOT BE CONDITIONAL.

SO THE COMMISSION MUST EITHER VOTE FOR OR AGAINST THE ITEM, BUT YOU CANNOT PUT ANY CONDITIONS ON NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THIS PROPOSED SCR IS FOR A 34.4 ACRE PROPERTY LOCATED PARTIALLY WITHIN THE CITY'S WILL PURPOSE JURISDICTION AND PARTIALLY WITHIN THE TWO MILE EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.

THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE.

THE BULL CREEK WATERSHED AND IS CLASSIFIED AS WATER SUPPLY SUBURBAN.

IT IS ALSO LOCATED IN THE NORTHERN EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE THEM.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP A 350 UNIT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH 175 LIVING UNIT EQUIVALENTS FOR LEDS.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE SITE IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CITY'S FULL JURISDICTION.

AND THIS IS THE SITE LOCATION AND THE CONTEXT OF IMAGINE AUSTIN'S GROWTH CONCEPT.

NOW NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE SITE CONSISTS OF A TRACK OF APPROXIMATELY 34.4 ACRES LOCATED AT ONE ONE, TWO ONE THREE FM SIX 20 ROAD.

THE SITE CONSISTS OF FOUR PARCELS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE THREE PARCELS IN YELLOW ARE 9.4 ACRES AND ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY'S FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION.

AND THE 25 ACRE PARCEL IN BLUE IS LOCATED IN THE CITY'S TWO MILE ETJ AND IS ADJACENT TO COUNCIL DISTRICT SIX.

SO SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS HAVE BEEN PROPOSED WHERE A PORTION OF THIS SITE PREVIOUSLY, AND THEY WERE NOT RECOMMENDED BY WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT STAFF IN 2016, A WASTEWATER SCR WAS MADE FOR A PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WITH 336 UNITS ON THE 25 ACRE PORTION OF THE SITE.

THE SCR WAS CONSIDERED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONVENTION AND THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED AGAINST APPROVAL.

YOU CAN FIND THAT A STAFF MEMO AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATION AND YOUR BACKUP MATERIALS, THE SCR THEN WENT ON TO THE WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION, BUT IT DID NOT GET ENOUGH VOTES TO PASS A RECOMMENDATION.

AND THE APPLICANT SUBSEQUENTLY WITHDREW THEIR REQUEST.

AND 2018, ANOTHER REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED, SUBMITTED FOR BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICE.

AND THAT WAS FOR A 139 SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WATERSHED PROTECTION STAFF.

AGAIN, DID NOT SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.

AND THE APPLICANT FORMALLY WITHDREW THAT REQUESTS BEFORE IT WENT TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO UPGRADE THE EXISTING VALENTI LIFT STATION UPGRADE THE EXISTING FORCE MAIN THAT SERVES THE LIFT STATION AND UPGRADE THE DOWNSTREAM GRAVITY COLLECTION SYSTEM TO PROVIDE THE CAPACITY NECESSARY TO SERVE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SITE IS WITHIN THE AUSTIN WATER SERVICE AREAS.

SO THEY DO NOT NEED A WATER STR MS. CAKES,

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THIS IS A MAP OF THE SUBJECT TRACKS HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK AND THE PROPOSED WASTEWATER EXTENSION HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TWO AUCTIONS FOR THE WASTEWATER EXTENSION.

THE OPTION YOU SEE HERE, OPTION ONE WOULD REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO OBTAIN A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT FROM THE HEB AT SIX 20 AND ANDERSON NO ROAD THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM THE ROOM TO REPLACE OR UPGRADE THE EXISTING FORCE MAIN ALONG THIS ALIGNMENT.

IF THE APPLICANT IS UNABLE TO OBTAIN THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT FOR THIS OPTION AND ALTERNATE ROUTE HAS BEEN MADE, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE NEXT SLIDE AS OPTION TWO.

AND HERE IS OPTION TWO.

THIS HAS THE APPLICANT SECOND PROPOSED OPTION.

AND IN THIS OPTION, THE PROPOSED WASTEWATER MAIN RUNS BEHIND THE ATB STOP SHOPPING CENTER.

NOW HYDRATE REAL QUICK.

THIS IS A MAP SHOWING THE ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES ON THE SITE.

IT CONTAINS TWO SPRINGS, ONE RECHARGE, CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURE AND FOUR WETLANDS.

THE SITE CONTAINS CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND WATER QUALITY TRANSITION ZONES TO THE HEADWATERS OF BULL CREEK.

YES, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

WE'VE COVERED THIS ONCE.

WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

ADDITIONALLY, THIS SITE IS AT THE HEADWATERS OF FEDERALLY LISTED THREATENED JOLLYVILLE PLATEAU, SALAMANDER HABITAT.

YOUR PRIOR STUDIES WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT BIOLOGIST IDENTIFIED A ROBUST POPULATION OF SALAMANDERS IN THIS TRIBUTARY.

THE HIGHEST ELEVATOR OCCUPANCY WAS FOUND IN THIS TRIBUTARY COMPARED TO THE OTHER TRIBUTARY SURVEY RUNOFF FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD FLOW DOWNSTREAM INTO JOLLYVILLE PLATEAU, SALAMANDER HABITAT, AND THUS COULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THAT SALAMANDER POPULATION AS THE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE INCREASES THE PROPERTY.

THE PROBABILITY OF HARM TO CENTIMETERS ALSO INCREASES NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, BASED ON THE SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL RISKS TO EXTEND SERVICE TO THE SITE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT STAFF DO NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED WATER, WATER, WASTEWATER SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

AT THIS TIME.

WE ALSO HAVE STAFF HERE FROM AUSTIN WATER TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT JULES CANE IS HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SHORT PRESENTATION.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE BOBBY LEVINSKY FROM SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE HERE.

AND WHEN HE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, THANK YOU.

ACACIA WILL SHOW WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME IN HER, HER PRESENTATION, AND THEN ASK Q AND A AND REMEMBER FOUR MINUTES COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS JOEL CAIN.

I'M A LAND DEVELOPMENT CONSULTANT WITH ARMREST AND BROWN.

AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER, WHO'S PROPOSING A LOW DENSITY, THREE STORY GARDEN STYLE APARTMENT PROJECT ON THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED ON THIS MAP THAT I HOPE YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE THAT WE'VE GOT YOUR PRESENTATION UP.

IT'S THE MAP.

AND SO JUST TELL US NEXT SLIDE, AND THEN WE'LL ADVANCE IT AND YOU'LL HAVE THE FOUR, WELL, WE'LL DO, THIS IS MY FIRST VIRTUAL PRESENTATION.

SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.

UM, ALSO THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GREAT INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PROJECT I'D LIKE TO SHARE, BUT MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME.

SO PLEASE ASK QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS AT SOME QUICK HIGHLIGHTS.

UM, I WANT TO POINT OUT THE ASPEN HEIGHTS MULTIFAMILY PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS ENTIRELY AN ATJ.

IT HAD A WASTEWATER STR APPROVED IN 2020, AND THIS PROJECT DRAINS THROUGH THE, THE, THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT.

UM, AND IT FLOWS INTO THE CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES ON THIS SITE.

AND GUS DOWNSTREAM TO THE JOYFUL SOUND HINDERS.

THE DEVELOPER HAS COMMITTED TO ANNEX AND THE 25 ACRE PORTION IN THE TJ THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP AT RESOLUTION WAS PASSED WITH THE ZONING CASE ON THE 9.4 ACRE SITE LAST YEAR, WHICH INCLUDES A DRAFT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AS WELL AS A LETTER FROM THE DEVELOPER COMMITTING TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY.

THE DEVELOPER HAS A SITE PLAN REVIEW, WHICH IS DESIGNED AROUND THE ONSITE DEX RAIN GARDENS AND BIOFILTRATION BONDS ARE PROPOSED PROMOTING WETLAND HEALTH AND NO ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCES ARE BEING REQUESTED.

A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE IMPERVIOUS COVER WILL BE TREATED, WHICH IS IMPROVING EXISTING CONDITION.

LASTLY, THE DEVELOPER IS ALSO WORKING WITH TXDOT AND INCORPORATING THEIR DRAINAGE TREATMENT ON THIS PROPERTY FOR THEIR PROPOSED INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AT SIX 20 ANDERSON MILL.

WILL BE WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY AS WELL TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THEIR COMMITMENT TO ANNEX THE 25 ACRE TRACK DURING THE REBUILDING PROCESS.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY INCLUDES 9.4 ACRES IN THE FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION.

THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WAS RECENTLY ZONED FOR MULTI-FAMILY AND VOLUNTARILY ANNEX IN JUNE, 2020.

THIS WAS A COMMITMENT THE DEVELOPER MADE WITH COUNCILMEMBER FLANAGAN.

THE DEVELOPER

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SO THE 9.4 IT'S ATTRACTED DEVELOPMENT WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS AND AGREED TO RESTRICT THE DEVELOPABILITY OF THE PROPERTY AS SHOWN IN THIS SLIDE TO GAIN THEIR SUPPORT.

THE DEVELOPER HAS MET WITH WATERSHED PROTECTION STAFF, INCLUDING HYDROLOGIST AND WETLANDS BIOLOGISTS WITH MULTIPLE ONSITE VISITS SINCE AUGUST, 2020, AS A RESULT OF PROPOSED PROJECT IS MAINTAINING EXISTING STORM WATER DRAINAGE PATTERNS TO THE CF FEATURES.

RAIN GARDENS BIOFILTRATION PONDS WILL TREAT ONSITE, NOT SITE FLOWS THAT RECHARGE THE CES.

THE ENHANCED RECHARGING OF THE WETLAND FEATURES ARE SUPERIOR TO EXISTING CONDITIONS AND SHE'D BENEFIT THE DOWNSTREAM OFFSITE JELLY, MAGGIE JOLLYVILLE SALAMANDER HABITAT.

ALBERT HAS A SITE PLAN AND REVIEW FOR THE PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT.

AGAIN, NO ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCES ARE BEING REQUESTED AND STANDARD.

PF SETBACKS WILL BE MAINTAINED HE'LL COUNTRY ROADWAY.

LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS WILL BE PROVIDED ALONG THE ROADWAY SIGNAGE AND A TRUE CARE PLAN WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS A GENERAL LAYOUT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING IN RELATION TO THE CF SETBACKS.

THIS IS A LOW DENSITY THREE-STORY GARDEN STYLE APARTMENT PROJECT CONSISTING OF 370 16 HAS ON THE POOL 34.4 ACRES, WHICH IS ONLY 10.9 UNITS PER ACRE.

THE, WHEN THE WASTEWATER STR REQUESTS WILL REQUIRE 2.5 TO 3 MILLION AND OFFSITE WASTEWATER UPGRADE, THE WASTEWATER CONNECTION IS ALREADY LOCATED ON THE 9.48 PROPORTION OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED IN THE FULL POLICE JURISDICTION.

THIS WOULD BE THE PUBLIC CONNECTION POINT FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

THE STAFF REPORT PROVIDED IN YOUR BACKUP MENTIONED TWO PREVIOUS AS YOUR REQUESTS THAT KAYLA MENTIONED THAT WERE SUBMITTED IN 2016 AND 2018.

THESE PREVIOUS CASES ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE PROJECT CURRENTLY WITH THOSE AND THAT THEY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN THE CF BUFFERS IN CRITICAL WATER QUALITY DOWN REQUIREMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCES.

THEY ALSO PUT THE MORE DENSE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT ON THE 25 ACRE ETJ TRACK AND DIDN'T CONTEMPLATE ANNEXATION.

AS I POINTED OUT IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATION, THERE WAS AN ASININE PROJECT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY THAT HAD AN SDR GROUP LAST YEAR WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF WEIGH 215 MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT, NO ANNEXATION WAS PROPOSED WITH THIS PROJECT.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS THAT PROJECT DREAM TO THIS PROPERTY INTO THE CSA ZONE AND STAFF ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THE SITE DRINKS, THE JOY BILL SELLING UNDER THE HABITAT AND THEIR STAFF MEMO.

I'VE PROVIDED THAT STAFF MEMO FOR THE AUSTIN HEIGHTS PROJECT IN THE NEXT TWO SLIDES AS REFERENCE I'D LIKE TO CLOSE BY ASKING FOR THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS WEST WASTEWATER SDR.

AND JUST HIGHLIGHT AGAIN THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS COMMITTED TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY INTO THE CITY'S FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION.

THEY'RE DESIGNING A LOW DENSITY MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT PROPOSING 10.9 UNITS PER ACRE, COMPARED TO THE ASPEN HEIGHTS PROJECT, WHICH GOT APPROVAL FOR 14.6 UNITS PER ACRE.

THE PROJECT DESIGN IS SENSITIVE TO THE EXISTING CFS AND IMPROVING EXISTING CONDITIONS BY PROVIDING RAIN GARDENS AND BIOFILTRATION PONDS WITHOUT THE REQUEST OF ANY ENVIRONMENTAL BEARINGS IS FINALLY BASED ON PREVIOUS PROJECTS.

THIS PROJECT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY SUPERIOR COMPARED TO THE AUSTINITES PROJECT THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED AND THE TWO PROJECTS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED ON THE SITE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MS. KANE.

UH, WE'LL HEAR FROM BOBBY LIVE TEAM.

UH, NEXT PROBABLY.

ARE YOU THERE? YES.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS BOBBY LAVINSKY WITH THE SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE.

I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS, UM, AS ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCATES, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS, UM, WHICH IS, UH, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE A DISCRETIONARY ACTION BY THE CITY.

UM, THE KEY METRIC THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WHETHER THE EXTENSION OF UTILITIES WOULD EXACERBATE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ON THE PROPERTY.

I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANTS POINT THAT THEY'RE MAKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, BUT TOO LONG DON'T MAKE A RIGHT.

UM, REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THIS SERVICE ACCENTURE REQUEST IS, DOES PROVIDING CITY WASTEWATER INCREASE THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE POINT THAT IT DEGRADES THE ENVIRONMENT MORE THAN WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE OCCUR IF THAT DEVELOPMENT DIDN'T HAVE THOSE SERVICES AS SHOWN BY YOUR STAFF REPORT? THE ANSWER ON THIS PROJECT, CLEARLY YES, GRANTING THIS SCR WOULD MAKE MATTERS WORSE FOR BULL CREEK AND THE THREATENED SPECIES THAT DEPEND ON CLEAN WATER.

THERE IS A LARGE POPULATION OF JOLLYVILLE JOLLYVILLE SALAMANDER IMMEDIATELY DOWNSTREAM OF THIS PROPERTY.

AND AS YOU MAY BE AWARE OF RECENT SURVEYS HAVE SHOWN THAT URBAN DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA, PARTICULARLY DENTURE MEANT DETRIMENTAL IMPACT TO THE SURVIVAL OF THAT SPECIES.

THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME REQUEST THAT THIS COMMISSION CONSIDERED ON NOVEMBER 16, 2016, THE SCR WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION ON IT, SEVEN TO TWO VOTE.

AT THAT TIME, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION NOTED THAT THE PROPOSED EXEMPTION WOULD FACILITATE INCREASED DEVELOPMENT, INTENSITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL ELEMENTS IN THE AREA,

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AND THAT IT WOULD BE UPSTREAM OF CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES AND JOLLYVILLE PLATEAU SALAMANDER.

NONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED SINCE 2016.

IN FACT, THE ONLY THING THAT HAS CHANGED IS THAT THE IMPACT ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT COULD POTENTIALLY BE GREATER THAN WHAT WAS PROPOSED IN 2016.

PARTICULARLY IF YOU COMPOUND THE IMPACTS FROM THE ADJACENT SITE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS RAISED.

UM, WE JUST ASKED THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AND REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH HIS APPLICATION OF THE CITY'S LONG-STANDING POLICY TO DENY SCRS IN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS WHEN SUCH SCRS WOULD EXACERBATE DEVELOPMENT, INTENSITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.

UM, IT'S REALLY GREAT TO HEAR THAT THE APPLICANT WANTS TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY.

THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT NOW, BEFORE THEY BUILD THE PROJECT, THE ONLY THING THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT FOR US, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO THEN COMPLY WITH THE TREE ORDINANCE AND THE FULL REQUIREMENTS OF THE HILL COUNTRY, ROBOT ORDINANCE, NOT JUST THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

QUESTIONS FIRST, DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? I DO.

UM, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM AUSTIN WATER UTILITY ON THIS, JUST GIVEN THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER CITY DEPARTMENT HERE, THAT'S A MAJOR STAKEHOLDER IN THE PROJECT.

IS THERE SOMEBODY FROM AUSTIN WATER WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUST GIVE US KIND OF A BIT MORE OF A PERSPECTIVE FROM THE WATER UTILITIES POINT OF VIEW? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, THIS IS COLE HUGGINS WITH AUSTIN WATER, UM, COMMISSIONER CURL.

DID YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT YOU WANTED ANSWERED? NO.

UM, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTEXT ON WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION OR REALLY ANY OF THE AFFAIRS OF AUSTIN WATER UTILITY.

AND SO I WAS HOPING, JUST GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL CONTEXT FROM THE WATER UTILITY ON SPECIFICALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO, TO THIS, UH, TO THIS PROJECT.

UH, I'LL TRY TO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION AND SEE IF THAT GENERATES ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

UM, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT OF COURSE IS ENTIRELY DRIVEN BY THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

SO, SO THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NOT REQUIRED OR NEEDED FOR ANYTHING AT THIS TIME, OTHER THAN FOR THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

UM, BUT THEN, SORRY, I GUESS THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY TRUE STATEMENT BECAUSE THE ASPEN HEIGHTS STR THAT WAS APPROVED ACROSS THE STREET, THEIR STR DID HAVE SOME SIMILAR DEVELOP OR IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, THEY WERE REQUIRED ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO UPDATE AND UPGRADE THE POSITIVE VALENTI LIFT STATION TO, UH, ALLOW FOR EXTRA CAPACITY THAT'S NEEDED TO SERVE THEIR PROJECT.

UH, WE HAVE LIMITED CAPACITY AT THAT LIFT STATION LIMITED AVAILABLE CAPACITY AT THAT LIFT STATION RIGHT NOW.

SO ASPEN HEIGHTS WILL NEED TO PERFORM SOME UPGRADES TO THE LIFT STATION TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY, TO ALLOW SERVICE TO THEIR PROJECT.

UH, IF THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, THEN THEY'LL NEED TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON TOP OF THE ASPEN HEIGHT, WHAT THE ASPEN HEIGHTS PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO DO AND THIS, SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO UPGRADE THE EXISTING FORCE MAIN AND A PORTION OF THE DOWNSTREAM GRAVITY SYSTEM AS WELL.

UH, NONE OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING OVERSIZED.

UH, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES NOT ALLOW US TO REQUEST OVER-SIZING OF WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS IN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE, OUTSIDE THE CITY'S FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION.

SO THE IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN ON BOTH OF THOSE SCRS ARE SIZED JUST TO SERVE THE TWO PROJECTS.

SAY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME UPGRADES TO IT AND JUST MAYBE UPDATE TECHNOLOGY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND WHAT'S, UH, REMIND ME, WAS THIS APPROVED BY WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION? UH, WE HAVE NOT BEEN TO WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION YET.

WE TYPICALLY SCHEDULE WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION AFTER ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.

THAT'S BEEN THE POLICY DIRECTOR FROM MY MANAGEMENT.

GOTCHA.

AND, UM, THE, THE LIFT STATION YOU WOULD REFERENCE IF I RECALL, UM, CAN YOU GIVE US SOME DETAILS ABOUT THAT LIFT STATION? WHEN WAS IT BUILT? WHAT'S THE CONDITION IT'S IN? IS THERE ANY MAINTENANCE REQUIRED ON THAT AT THIS TIME? UM, THAT, THAT MAYBE BENEFICIAL OFFICIALS WHO HAVE PERFORMED BY SOMEBODY OTHER THAN THE CITY OF AUSTIN? UH, I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS ABOUT THE LIFT STATION, WHAT YEAR IT WAS CONSTRUCTED.

UH, AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT IS IN GOOD CONDITION, IT'S A OPERATING LIFT STATION AND WE DO ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ON ALL OF OUR LIFT STATIONS.

SO THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY OPERATIONAL OR MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH IT.

UH, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT IF YOU ASKED OUR LIFT STATION GUYS, THEY WOULD PROBABLY

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BUT, UH, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, THAT IS A FUNCTIONING LIFT STATION.

AND, UH, BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE ARE NO ISSUES WITH IT.

YEAH.

IT WAS JUST, I, I SEEM TO RECALL THIS SITE COMING THROUGH, UM, TO OUR ATTENTION BEFORE, AND I, I RECALL THERE BEING SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, REPAIRS NEEDING TO BE MADE, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE POS THOSE REPAIRS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE, UM, SINCE THEN.

YEAH, IT COULD BE BECAUSE NOTHING CAME UP, UH, WITH OUR LIFT STATION GROUP IN THE COURSE OF THE REVIEW OF THIS SCR.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR EXTERNAL PARTIES.

UH, SIR, THE WATER GUY, WHAT IS YOUR NAME, SIR? I'M SORRY.

COLE HUGGINS HUGGINS.

UH, MR. HUGGINS.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

YOU SAW THOSE TWO ALTERNATIVE PLANS THAT WERE PROPOSED TO GET WATER, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TWO OPTIONS.

HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU SEEN THOSE W HOW DO YOU HAVE A OPINION ON THOSE TWO OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED THE OTHER WAY TO ROUTE COMMISSIONER GREER? I APOLOGIZE YOUR AUDIO COMPLETELY CUT OUT ON ME, BUT I BELIEVE YOU WERE ASKING IF WE HAD A PREFERENCE ON EITHER ONE OF THE TWO OPTIONS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

UM, NO, I DON'T THINK THAT AUSTIN WATER HAS, UH, UH, A HARD OPINION ON EITHER ONE OF THE OPTIONS.

UH, THE EXISTING FORCE MAIN RUNNING ACROSS THE HEB PARKING LOT IS IN A EASEMENT.

SO THAT ALLOWS US ACCESS TO IT TO MAINTAIN IT IF WE NEED TO, TO GET UP AND DO ANY WORK ON IT.

UM, AND THE SECTION OPTION, SHOWING IT GOING BEHIND REROUTING IT BEHIND THE HEB SHOPPING CENTER, THAT WOULD BE, UH, COMPLETELY ACCEPTABLE TO, UH, I IMAGINE OUR LIFT STATION GROUP WOULD LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE'D HAVE A BRAND NEW FORCE MAIN, WELL, I'M SORRY, WE'D HAVE BRAND NEW FORCEMENT.

YOU NEED THE WAY CAUSE THEY THEY'RE REQUIRED TO UPGRADE IT.

UM, BUT YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A STRONG FEELING EITHER WAY, WHETHER ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.

AND THEN SIR, WHEN, UH, SAR HAS DENIED, UH, DON'T DEVELOPERS HAVE TO CREATE THEIR OWN TREATMENT PLANT ON SITE.

W WHAT'S THAT CALLED? IT'S NOT A LIFT.

UH, I BELIEVE THEY WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT, DO YOU DOING A ON-SITE SEPTIC FACILITY IF THEY WERE, THAT THIS SCR WAS DENIED AND THEY COULDN'T GET WASTEWATER SERVICE FROM THE CITY.

AND ARE THERE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT I'VE HAD TO DO THAT IN THIS, WITHIN THIS AREA? UH, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT I KNOW THERE ARE SOME EXISTING SEPTIC TANKS AND I THINK THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, ON SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES THAT ARE LOCATED NEARBY.

AND THEN ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK YOU WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT BIG WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT WE BUILT AND IT WENT ALL THROUGH BULL CREEK.

IS THAT BEING TAPPED, WOULD THAT BE TAPPED INTO FOR THIS, UH, WELL, THE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THERE, THAT'S A WATER TREATMENT PLANT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER REIMER.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

NO PROBLEM.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER BRIMER I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE, UH, IF THE SCR IS DENIED, UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, THEIR OPTION WOULD BE TO GO TO A, UH, YOU KNOW, ON-SITE TREATMENT ASEPTIC SYSTEM, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE PERMIT SYSTEM OR PATH FOR THAT WHO WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THAT MR. BRIAN RUNS THE SYSTEM? OH, SORRY.

UH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I BELIEVE THAT SINCE THIS PORTION THAT, UH, IS WE WOULD MAYBE END UP HAVING TO DEAL WHERE IT'S DUAL JURISDICTION HERE BECAUSE OF THE NINE ACRES THAT'S IN THE FULL PURPOSE CITY LIMITS THAT WOULD BE REGULATED BY AUSTIN WATERS, ONSITE SEPTIC FACILITIES GROUP.

AND THEN THE PART THAT'S IN THE ETJ, THE 25 ACRES, AT LEAST AS IT STANDS NOW, UH, THAT WOULD BE IN TRAVIS COUNTY'S JURISDICTION WITH THAT NOT DEPEND UPON WHERE THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED OR DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH UTILIZATION? OH, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION THAT I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO.

THIS IS KAYLA CHAMPLIN WASHER PROTECTION.

AND, UM, I'M GOING TO SAY, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS WITH A DISCLAIMER AND

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I'M THE DEPUTY ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER WILL CHIME IN IF I DON'T HAVE THIS RIGHT, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT BASED ON THE INPUT AND PREVIOUS COVER LO AND LEMONS, THE, IF SERVICES NOT EXTENDED TO THE SITE AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A WASTEWATER DISPOSAL UNDER A TEXAS LAND APPLICATION PERMIT, WHICH IS CALLED A T LAP, THAT'S ISSUED BY THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

UM, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT BASED ON THE CURRENT DENSITY THEY'RE PROPOSING, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DEVELOP, UM, AS, AS THEIR D AS THEY'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW WITH THE SAME DENSITY WITH DECENTRALIZED SERVICE AND WAIT A MINUTE IN MY MUTED.

AND KAYLA, WHEN YOU SAY, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE TO, UH, HAVE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT WOULD BE OR WHERE IT WOULD BE ON THAT MATCH.

NO, I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF THAT BECAUSE THE SCR IS NOT TIED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.

SO, UM, REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS JUST WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED AND WE DO SOME ROUGH CALCULATIONS TO SEE IF IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO, UM, DO THAT WITH AN OSS AND, AND BASED ON OUR CALCULATIONS, WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD.

WHAT, UH, CAN I HAVE A QUESTION, A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION ON MS. CHAPLIN'S, UM, STATEMENT THERE? UM, SO TH TH TH TH THE DENSITY MAY DECREASE, BUT, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS, UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF A FEASIBLE DEVELOPMENT, UH, USING ONSITE SEPTIC.

IS THAT REALLY PERIPHERAL OVER CENTRALIZED WASTEWATER? IT, I THINK GENERALLY IN PAST CASES, WE'VE INDICATED THAT ONSITE SEPTIC IS, IS NOT PREFERABLE OVER CENTRALIZED OR FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE.

SO EVEN THOUGH THE DENSITY GOES DOWN, YOU'RE PUTTING A BIGGER RISK ON THE SITE WITH A ONSITE TREATMENT.

IS THAT NOT RIGHT? I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO PASS THIS ONE OVER TO CHRIS HARRINGTON, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER, BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A SQUISHY TOPIC.

COMMISSIONER CRUEL, CHRIS HARRINGTON, ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER.

SO IT IS A DIFFICULT QUESTION BECAUSE YOU'RE BALANCING THE TWO PARTS OF THE POLLUTION EQUATION, BOTH WHAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER THE NON-POINT OR WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THE NON-POINT SOURCE POLLUTION FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS WHAT WE WOULD REFER TO IN THIS CASE IS THE POINT SOURCE POLLUTION.

SO THERE'S ALWAYS A RISK OF FAILURE FOR WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, WHETHER IT BE ON-SITE OR CENTRALIZED SERVICE.

UM, IF YOU'RE HAVING MORE DEVELOPMENT AT ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER ON SITE, THEN YOU'RE NON-POINT SOURCE POLLUTION LOAD FOR A GIVEN USE IS GOING TO INCREASE.

SO THEN YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO BALANCE OUT WHAT WOULD BE THE LOAD FROM A FUNCTIONING SEPTIC SYSTEM VERSUS THE LOAD FROM A CENTRALIZED SEWER SYSTEM, WHICH MIGHT BE ZERO.

SO IT IS NOT AN EASY MATHEMATICAL EQUATION TO SOLVE SINCE IT'S RESOLVES ON, UM, FACTORS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON.

I WOULD SAY THOUGH, THERE'S NOT EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT SEPTIC SYSTEMS ARE ALWAYS WORSE THAN CENTRALIZED SEWER OR CENTRALIZED SEWER IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN, UM, UH, ON-SITE DISPOSAL.

IN FACT, RECENT MODELING DONE BY SWRI, UM, DOWN IN SAN ANTONIO, CONCLUDED THAT WITH EITHER SCENARIO, YOU COULD ACTUALLY GET TO THE SAME, UH, IT ONLY LOOKING AT THE POINT SOURCE POLLUTION FACTOR YOU COULD GET TO THE SAME OUTCOME.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHERE IT'S LOCATED.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE IRRIGATION AREAS FOR WASTEWATER DISPOSAL PER CODE CANNOT BE LOCATED WITHIN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE OR WITHIN THE BUFFERS OF CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES.

SO IT IS, THIS IS ONE OF THE DIFFICULTIES WITH THESE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS.

WE DO NOT HAVE CLEAR COUNCIL POLICY OR CLEAR CODE GUIDANCE ON HOW TO CONDUCT THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS FOR THESE, UH, REQUESTS.

SO IS THE PROVISION OF SERVICE FACILITATING ADDITIONAL DENSITY ON THIS SITE? YES, IT IS.

UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HAVE RECOMMENDED AGAINST, UH, WHEN THERE ARE SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES PRESENT ON THE SITE AS THEY ARE IN THIS ONE? YES, IT IS.

I THINK THAT'S, WHAT'S DRIVING OUR RECOMMENDATION IN THE ABSENCE OF A MORE CLEAR POLICY.

UH, CHRIS, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UH, ONE IS THAT, UM, THERE WAS A MENTION, THERE WAS SOMETHING MENTIONED ABOUT THE, UH, OTHER DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY COMING THROUGH THAT LAND AND IT'S ALREADY, UH, FLOWING THROUGH THAT PROPERTY AND IT'S ALREADY, UH, GOING TOWARDS THE, UM, TOWARDS THE BULL CREEK WHERE THE SALAMANDERS ARE, BUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT OR NO? YES MA'AM.

SO WE EVALUATE EACH

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SCR BASED ON THE SITE-SPECIFIC CONSIDERATION.

SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT PRECEDENT RELATIVE TO THE REGION.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT WHAT THE CHARACTERISTICS ARE ON THIS SITE.

SO THIS SITE HAS MULTIPLE CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES, PLUS THE CREEK BUFFER, UM, THAT DOES A DRAIN TO SALAMANDER HABITAT.

I DO AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT THAT AT LEAST A PORTION OF THAT SITE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SIX 20 WOULD SIMILARLY DRAIN TO THE SAME TRIBUTARY.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, MORE OF A DISTANCE AWAY THAN THE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PARCEL THAT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE CREEK BUFFER.

AND THEN THE SALAMANDER IS PROTECTED UNDER THE FEDS, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM THE JOLLYVILLE PLATEAU.

SALAMANDER IS LISTED AS A THREATENED SPECIES UNDER THE FEDERAL ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT.

SO, UH, RELATIVE TO OUR REGULATIONS, THERE'S NOT SPECIFIC ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS THAT WE HAVE, UM, FOR THREATENED OR ENDANGERED SPECIES IN TERMS OF OTHER THAN MAKING SURE THAT THE FEDERAL, UH, THE FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE IS AWARE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO THE, WE, WE DO NOT ENFORCE THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT, BUT WE ARE NOTING THAT THIS SPRING, UM, DOES HAVE A RESOURCE VALUE IN THE SENSE THAT IT PROVIDES HABITAT FOR THE SALAMANDERS AND THE DEVELOPMENT FROM THIS AREA WOULD FLOW INTO PROTECTED SALAMANDER HABITAT AND SOMETHING I'LL OH, GO AHEAD.

BUT ONE LAST THING I'LL SPEAK TO THIS MORE LATER, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, AND AGAINST SCR CASE BY CASE.

WE'D LOOK AT THESE VERY SPECIFICALLY PER YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW, BUT, UH, DO, DO YOU RECALL IF, UH, WE VOTED AGAINST ONE OF THESE CASES AND COUNCIL WENT AHEAD AND AGREED FOR IT TO COPE FORWARD FOR THE DEVELOPMENT? YES.

MA'AM YOU ARE CORRECT.

THERE HAVE BEEN, UM, SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION HAS DENIED OR RECOMMENDED DENIAL.

UM, THAT COUNCIL HAS APPROVED.

IT'S A MIXED TRACK IN TERMS OF WHEN THE COMMISSIONS AND COUNCIL AGREE WITH STAFF AND EACH OTHER, AND WHEN THEY DON'T.

HI.

UM, UM, I GUESS THIS QUESTION IS FOR, UM, MR. HARRINGTON OR IN STAFF, BUT WOULD YOU AGREE THAT THE IMPACT, UH, ON THE SALAMANDER POPULATION, UM, BY, UM, BY SEPTIC SYSTEM IS MUCH LOWER OR MINIMAL COMPARED TO THE SCR PROPOSED SCR? OR WHAT WOULD THE, WHAT, IS THERE ANY THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF OR WHAT WOULD BE, I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS SOME TYPE OF IMPACT, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, IMPACT, UM, FROM ADDITIONAL SEPTIC IN AREA.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE OF SEPTIC SYSTEM FAILURES.

SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHICH WE WERE ONSITE, SEWAGE FACILITY FAILURES, A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE THINKING ABOUT OLDER SYSTEMS OR SYSTEMS THAT ARE NOT PROPERLY MAINTAINED.

IF WE THINK ABOUT, UH, THE REGULATIONS FOR SEPTIC SYSTEMS DRAMATICALLY CHANGED CIRCA 1985, I THINK I'D HAVE IMPROVED SINCE THEN.

AND SO A SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT IS PROPERLY DESIGNED ACCORDING TO TODAY'S REGULATIONS AND FUNCTIONING, THERE IS NO REASON TO THINK THAT THAT HAS A NEGATIVE POLLUTANT CONSEQUENCE THAT IS, UM, UH, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE IRRIGATING, WASTEWATER DISPOSAL, OR DISPOSING OF THE TREATED OR PARTIALLY TREATED WASTEWATER ONSITE.

SO IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO CONNECT WITH GROUNDWATER.

IT'S NOT TO HAVE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SURFACE WATER RUNNING OFF THE SITE, BUT IS IT ADDING, YOU KNOW, IS IT ADDITIONAL NUTRIENT THAT IS THERE ON SITE? YES.

AND THAT'S KINDA WHAT I WAS MENTIONING IN THAT MODELING BY SWRI.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE, THERE IS NO CLEAR SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE TO SAY THAT A PROPERLY DESIGNED, UH, PROPERLY PERMITTED AND FUNCTIONAL OSF IS GOING TO HAVE AN ADVERSE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCE DISPROPORTIONATE TO, UM, THE FACT THAT YOU'RE JUST TREATING THE WASTEWATER ONSITE.

SO WHAT, IT COMES DOWN MORE FOR US IN THINKING ABOUT THE DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT FROM THE NON-POINT SOURCE POLLUTION.

AND SO IF SOME OF THAT AREA CAN NOT BE DEVELOPED ON, BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE UTILIZED FOR ONSITE WASTEWATER DISPOSAL, THEN THAT'S LESS OF A NON-POINT SOURCE LOAD.

IT'S LESS IMPERVIOUS COVER AND CAR TRAFFIC AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD COME WITH THAT.

SO THAT'S, WHAT'S DRIVING OUR RECOMMENDATION IN THIS CASE IS REALLY THE DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY, NOT NECESSARILY A DETERMINATION OF WHETHER A CENTRAL SERVICE IS BETTER THAN, OR WORSE THAN A ON-SITE SERVICE AND VICE VERSA.

THIS IS JUUL KANE, SORRY TO CHIME IN OUT OF TURN, BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT, UM, THE ONSITE SEPTIC DOES NOT LIMIT DENSITY.

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THIS IS ESPECIALLY AT LEAST FOR THE TWENTY-FIVE ACRES WITHIN THE ETJ.

YOU GO UP IN HEIGHT, TOO.

UM, IF YOU NEEDED TO, TO, TO KEEP THE SAME DENSITY AND ALLOW FOR THE OSF DESIGN, BUT, UH, I DON'T CARE.

YOU'RE NOT, UH, YOU'RE YOU'RE MUTED, UH, BUT GOING UP VERSUS GOING OUT, UH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

UH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT, UM, WHAT WHAT'S VERY DIFFICULT IS THAT WE CANNOT MAKE CONDITIONS.

THIS IS, THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

DO YOU KNOW, AH, I LIKE THE IDEAS OF GOING HIGHER AND, YOU KNOW, PUSHING PAT WOULD HAVE LOVED FOR THE ALTERNATE AND PRIOR THAN COMING HERE, YOU KNOW, UH, THERE'S SO MANY TIMES WE'RE STUCK.

SO THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T MAKE ANY CONDITIONS ON THE SITE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE FOR US.

YEAH.

MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE TO AGREE IN COMING TO THE COMMENT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE IDEAL SITUATION IS FOR THE SITE TO BE X SO THAT WE CAN HAVE MORE ROBUST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF DEVELOPMENTS TO OCCUR AND, UM, AGREE THAT THE LACK OF ABILITY TO, TO, UM, PUT ANY CONDITIONS ON THIS AS A PROBLEM, I WILL SAY, I HAVE ALWAYS, AND I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF FUNDAMENTALLY HAD A PROBLEM WITH OUR COMMISSION USING SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS, UH, THAT IF YOU REALLY WAY AND RECOGNIZING THAT A WELL-MANAGED SEPTIC SYSTEM IS NOT AS BIG OF A RISK AS SOME OF THE LEAKY SEPTIC THAT WE'VE SEEN, THAT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OLDER, BUT IF YOU REALLY JUST WEIGH THOSE TWO SYSTEMS AGAINST EACH OTHER, THE SERVANT, THE SERVICE, THE WASTEWATER SERVICES EXTENSION IS FUNDAMENTALLY BETTER THAN SEPTIC, BUT WE ARE ESSENTIALLY USING THIS AS A PROXY FOR REGULATING DENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH JUST ON ITS FACE DOES NOT FEEL LIKE THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THINGS, BUT THERE'S NOT A BETTER AVENUE TO DO IT.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVEN'T CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING YET, AND I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I JUST, I WISH THAT THERE WAS A BETTER WAY TO DEAL IN THESE KINDS OF CASES.

MADAM CHAIR.

THIS IS, UH, COMMISSIONER PRIMER.

UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A SIMILAR REQUEST TO BUILD A COMMERCIAL FACILITY OFF OF, UH, BULL CREEK, UH, NEAR SPICE WOOD PRINT ROAD, AND YOU'LL FIND DRIVE.

AND, UH, ALTHOUGH THE DETAILS ARE DIFFERENT, UH, ONE POINT IS, IS THE SAME.

AND THAT IS THE CONCERN OF THE, UH, QUALITY OF THE WATER WITHIN BULL CREEK.

AND, UH, ALTHOUGH THERE WAS QUESTION ABOUT THE DENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT, THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO BE A HOTEL.

UH, THERE WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY OF, OF BUILDING AND SOME OTHER SIMILAR FACTORS.

THE ARGUMENT REALLY CAME DOWN TO IN THE END WAS THE IMPACT OF THAT DEVELOPMENT ON THE CALL GROUP OF WATER POOL CREEK.

AND I THINK THAT, UH, I UNDERSTAND, UH, COMMISSIONER COIN'S, UH, POINT ABOUT, UH, THIS BEING A PROXY FOR, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE DENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT REALLY THE ISSUE IS THE QUALITY OF THE WATER THAT COMES OFF THAT PROPERTY AND FLOWS INTO THE HEADWATERS OF POOLE CREEK AND THE QUALITY OF THE SPRINGS AND THE CAR'S FORMATIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

I THINK THAT IF WE GET TOO FAR OFF OF THAT ASPECT OF IT, WE'RE MISSING THE TOTAL POINT OF THE RECOMMENDATION BY, UH, BY STAFF.

AND THEY'RE ARGUING THAT THIS IS A RISK TO THE QUALITY OF THE WATER AND THEREFORE THE SALAMANDERS.

UM, SO THAT'S MY, MY POINT.

UM, I'D LIKE TO CHIME IN ON THAT AS WELL.

AND, AND KATIE, I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT BECAUSE IT WAS DEFINITELY IN PARALLEL WITH, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHTS.

IT DOES FEEL A LITTLE STRANGE, UM, USING, UH, USING THE SURFACE EXTENSION REQUESTS TO, UM, MAKE A DECISION ON THIS, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT OF THE EQUATION, IT ASSUMED THERE WAS WASTEWATER SERVICE ALREADY AT THIS SITE, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH HIM ALL CITY OF AUSTIN STATE REGULATIONS, AND BE ABLE TO BUILD THEIR PROPOSED PROJECT.

THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL VARIANCES IN ANY NORMAL CASE, THE

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CITY OF AUSTIN WOULD SAY, YES, YOU ARE MEETING OUR CODES AND ORDINANCES.

YOU ARE DUE, YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO FROM SERVE THE CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

RIGHT? SO WITHOUT THE SORT OF INTERNAL REQUESTS, WE KNOW THAT'S GENERALLY WHERE IT WOULD GO, OR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM STAFF IN THE APP THAT THEIR SITE PLAN IS A CODE COMPLIANT SITE PLAN.

YOU THROW THIS SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST IN, AND NOW ALL OF US, WE'RE NOT PROTECTING ENVIRONMENT.

LIKE, I, IT JUST, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF OUR MOUTH AND IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO LIGHT.

BUT I THINK BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE FULL PURPOSE JURISDICTION, IT DOESN'T ACT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY GUARANTEE THAT IT WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THE WAY THAT I THINK YOU WERE THINKING, AT LEAST THAT'S THE WAY I'M INTERPRETING THINGS.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, WE HEAR FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER ON THAT IS LIKE, IS THERE A SITE PLAN INACTIVE? IS THAT, WHERE IS THAT IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW? AND LIKE, IS IT ON THE CUSP OF APPROVAL? OR LIKE, WHERE, WHERE DO WE THINKING IT IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS? THIS IS JOEL.

I CAN ANSWER THAT IF, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO PLEASE.

QUICK, JUST TO KEEP CLARIFYING.

UM, THE SITE PLAN WAS SUBMITTED, I THINK EARLIER THIS YEAR FORMALLY.

AND WE JUST RECEIVED A FIRST ROUND OF COMMENTS, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE A WEEK OR TWO AGO.

SO IT'S IN THE BEGINNING STAGES, BUT IT IS IN REVIEW, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, CHRIS OR KAYLA, CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION THOUGH ABOUT, BECAUSE IT JUST, I KNOW YOU WERE TO SAID THIS, BUT REMIND US, BECAUSE THIS IS IN THE ETA OR AT LEAST PART OF THE SITE IS THAT SITE DOES NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH WHAT IN ORDER TO BE, TO DEVELOP.

THIS IS LIZ JOHNSTON, UH, DEPUTY ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER.

AND I CAN ANSWER THAT, UM, SINCE IT'S, THIS IS IN THE ETJ, IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY ZONING.

IT DOES NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH HILL COUNTRY ROADWAY OR ANY ZONING.

UM, AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WON'T COME BACK AND, UM, CHANGE THE PLANS AFTER THIS, UM, OR EVEN BUILD THE PROJECT.

AND, UM, AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES US SO DIFFICULT IS THAT WE CANNOT, UM, PUT ANY CONDITIONS ON THE SITE PLAN RELATED TO THE SCR.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GETTING INTO A LITTLE BIT OF A CHICKEN AND CHICKEN OR THE EGG DEBATE WHERE YES, SHE IS PROCEEDING DOWN A PATH OF COMPLIANCE, BUT THERE'S RISKS THERE.

AND THEN OUR RESPONSE WOULD BE, WELL, WHY NOT COME BACK WITH THE SCR AFTER YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN APPROVAL, WHICH THEN THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, WE DON'T WANT TO HINGE THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT BASED ON AN SCR APPROVAL REQUEST.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT JUST KIND OF GOES IN CIRCLES, WHICH IS PART OF THE DIFFICULTY OF, WITHOUT THE CONDITIONS, IF WE HAVE CONDITIONS WE COULD SOLVE FOR THAT, BUT WITHOUT CONDITIONS WE GET INTO A CIRCULAR ARGUMENT, WELL, I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE COMMISSION IS BEING CONSISTENT WITH THIS EARLIER DECISION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO DENY THE SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS TO THE HOTEL PROPERTY, OUR PROPOSED HOTEL PROPERTY ALONG SPICEWOOD SPRINGS ROAD, UH, BECAUSE OF THE, UH, NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE WATER QUALITY, UM, BULL CREEK.

AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT A STAFF IS SAYING NOW IS THAT THERE IS A RISK TO THE SALAMANDER AND A GENERAL WATER QUALITY IN BULL CREEK SHOULD CONSTRUCTION BEGAN ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

AND SO BY, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, DYNEIN THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, SAR, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OTHER DECISIONS THAT THE, UH, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION HAS MADE WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, IN A SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCE.

SO IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DENSITY OR THE TYPE OF, UH, BUILDING THAT'S THERE AND HOW HIGH IT IS AND ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION THAT'S BEFORE US IS AN A, MY MENTAL COMMISSION IS WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, IS IT GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL OR NEUTRAL TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BULL CREEK? AND THAT'S THE BASIS OF WHICH WE MAKE THE DECISION NOT, UH, ON WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, 50 UNITS OR 250 UNITS OR WHATEVER IT IS, WHAT WAS DONE ACROSS THE STREET A FEW YEARS AGO, THAT'S NOT, WHAT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF THIS PARTICULAR, UH, DEVELOPMENT ON THE QUALITY OF THE WATER IN BULL CREEK AND HOW IT IMPACTS THE, UH, COLORADO SALAMANDER COMMISSIONERS UP.

IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? YES.

ONE MORE

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CAUSE I THINK COMMISSIONER AND CREEL ARE, ARE NOT QUITE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT OUR UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE I THINK THEY COULD SUBMIT, AND THIS IS, I PICK A QUESTION FOR LIZ JOHNSON, THEY COULD SUBMIT A SITE PLAN AND GET IT APPROVED AND THEN SUBMITTED SCR, AND WE COULD APPROVE THAT, BUT THEN THEY COULD SUBMIT ANOTHER SITE PLAN.

AND THERE'S NOTHING TO KEEP THEM FROM DOING THAT IF THEY'RE NOT IN THE FULL ETG OR IN THE WHOLE, UM, IF THEY'RE NOT IN CITY OF AUSTIN FULL JURISDICTION, UM, THERE'S NOTHING TO KEEP THEM FROM CHANGING THAT SITE PLAN LATER.

LIKE REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD PROTECT US IS IF THEY ANNEXED THE PROPERTY PRIOR TO MOVING FORWARD WITH SITE PLAN SO THAT WE HAVE SOME BOUNDARIES ON, ON, ON WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO THAT IS CORRECT.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WON'T COME BACK AND MAKE REVISIONS.

UM, AND IF THEY WERE ANNEX, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH HILL, COUNTRY ROADWAY, TREE PROTECTION, LANDSCAPING, AND ALL EXAMINING.

WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT THE FEE APPS THAT, UM, THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE LIST? AND I THINK THEY HAD SAID THAT THE CES WERE GOING, THAT THE BUFFERS WERE GOING TO BE PROVIDED.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS APPLICABLE TO TJ? YES, CORRECT.

IT IS APPLICABLE TO BOTH ETJ AND FULL PURPOSE.

I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THAT, CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING HEARING? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? YES.

MA'AM THANK YOU, SIR.

SO, UH, WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC CARRY.

WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A MOTION.

IF THERE IS A MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION IN HERE.

AND LOOKED AT LOTS OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THIS PROPERTY.

UH, WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS LOCATED IN THE TREE FROM WATER PROTECTION ZONE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN SCHOOL PURCHASE JURISDICTION REQUIRE COUNCIL APPROVAL AND REVIEW BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.

WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT STAFF HAVE COMPLETED THE REVIEW FOR FM SIX 20 AND ANDERSON MILL ROAD, WASTEWATER SCR NUMBER, UH, FOUR SIX FIVE TWO, AND DO NOT RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THE, OF THE REQUESTS.

WHEREAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOGNIZES THAT WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT STAFF HAVE COMPLETED THE REVIEW FOR FM SIX 20 ANDERSON MILL ROAD, WASTEWATER STR OH, SORRY.

I'VE HEARD THAT TWICE.

UH, WHEREAS THE SITE IS, UH, THE HEADWATERS OF FULL CREEK CONTAINS TWO SPRINGS, ONE KARST RECHARGE FEATURE AND FOUR WETLANDS, AND IS IN THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND WATER QUALITY TRANSITION ZONE TO PULL PRE.

WHEREAS THE SITE IS AT THE HEADWATERS OF FEDERALLY LISTED, THREATENED, JOLLY GOLD PLETHORA OF SALAMANDER HABITAT.

WHEREAS THROUGH PRIOR SCIENTIFIC STUDIES, WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT, BIOLOGISTS IDENTIFIED A REAL ROBUST POPULATION OF SALAMANDERS IN ITS TRIBUTARY.

WHEREAS THE RUNOFF FROM THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD FLOW DOWNSTREAM INTO HABITAT AND THUS COULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT SALAMANDER, UH, THAT SALAMANDER POPULATION.

AND WHEREAS THE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE INCREASES THE PROBABILITY OF HARM TO SALAMANDER INCREASES.

THEREFORE THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED SERVICE EXTENSION REQUESTS.

THERE ARE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, FURTHER DISCUSSION.

UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I SYMPATHIZE WITH ALL OF THE ARGUMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, IT DOES MAKE A LOT OF LOGICAL SENSE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIOUS VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE USING WE'RE WEAPONIZING, UH, OUR PROCESS, UM, AGAINST, UH, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE, BE ABLE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, UM, IS NO LONGER ABLE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE SCR.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS INTENDED TO BE USED FOR.

AND IT JUST DOESN'T SIMPLY FEEL RIGHT TO ME, UH, TO BE DOING THAT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF STATE MY OBJECTION AND SAY, I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIOUS VOTE, VOTE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CRIDDLE ANYONE ELSE? UH, AND I WILL JUST STATE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION, HAD THE ANNEX HAPPENED PRIOR TO COMING TO US, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BEST CASE SCENARIO.

UH, WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, DONE WHAT WE WANTED TO DO AND LOOKED AT THE TREES

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UH, YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE INTERESTING AND I'D LIKE TO REPORT BACK HOW COUNCIL ENDS UP VOTING ON THIS.

UM, CAUSE YOU KNOW, THEY'LL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION ON THIS, UH, WHETHER IT EXPANDS, WHETHER IT GOES UP, GOES UP, YOU KNOW, OR, OR WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING WITH THIS.

UH, I HAVE VOTED FOR, I HAVE VOTED AGAINST SDRS.

AGAIN.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH SITUATION AND ITS ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY AND I, I'M SORRY WE'RE IN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE.

UH, BUT AT THIS TIME I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S TOO MANY ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVE ASPECTS TO THIS PROJECT.

AND SO, UH, IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE, UH, ARE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

I'M GOING TO DO A ROLL CALL AND WE HAVE RANDBURG OFF THE DAYAS COMMISSIONER.

CRAIL WISHNER BARTLETT BIXLER.

COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

COMMISSIONER COIN.

COMMISSIONER GUERRERO.

AND COMMISSIONER BEDFORD.

COMMISSIONER BREMMER.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, COMMISSIONER BRIMMER, UM, THE MOTION IS TO DENY THE REQUESTS WERE DENIED.

SO THAT'S ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX ONE, ONE AGAINST ONE OFF THE DYESS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TERRIBLE SITUATION TO BE IN.

WITH OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS GOING TO BE JUST COMMITTEE REPORTS, COMMISSIONER COIN.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD

[4. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT? SURE.

JUST REALLY QUICKLY.

UM, ANDRE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, NOTHING NEW TO REPORT ON RESILIENCE OR ON A CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN.

UH, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE A LITTLE BIT STALLED, BUT, UM, I DID JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT WE AT OUR LAST MEETING AT THE END OF MARCH HAD A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION, UM, BY DANIEL, UH, KUBOTA FROM, UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S, UH, INNOVATION OFFICE ON THE AUSTIN CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS PROGRAM.

UM, AND IT, IT SEEMED LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING AS, AS AN EDUCATION ITEM, UH, FOR US.

UH, AND, AND I LOVE TO PUT THAT ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING ALSO, UH, THEIR PRESENTATIONS POSTED, UM, BUT, BUT DEFINITELY RELEVANT TO ENVIRONMENTAL.

I'D LOVE TO SEE THEM COME OUR WAY.

YOU'RE A MAN OF HERE.

YES, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

UM, ARE JUST WANTING TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE.

UH, ALL MY WORKING GROUP BETWEEN THE PARKS SPORT AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION ON THE, UM, ENDEAVOR STATESMAN PROJECT.

UH, WE HAD, UM, THREE PARKS BOARD MEMBERS AND, UM, MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER, UH, RANNEBERGER TIN, THE WORKING GROUP, AND, UM, GOT SOME GREAT INFORMATION FROM BOTH THE PARKS, UM, REPRESENTATIVE, UH, AND FROM, UH, AC THIS IS GOING TO BE A DEEP DIVE, UH, SATURDAY MORNING, UH, AT NINE 30, WE'RE GOING TO DO A WALK AND TALK, UH, AND MEET UP AT THE SITE TO LOOK AT IT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PROPOSED, UM, RAIL.

THAT'S GOING TO COME NOW AND COME INTO THAT, UH, AREA WHERE THE PARK AND THE SHORELINE COME TOGETHER.

UM, I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THEY'RE AT SOME SORT OF DESIGN STAGE, WHAT TYPE OF IMPACT THAT RAIL WILL MAKE, UH, ON, ON THAT, UM, LAND.

AND SO, UH, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO, UM, UM, LOOK AT IT UNDER A MICROSCOPE AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S BEEN VERY INTERESTING AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE WALK.

UH, ALLEN, UM, IS GONNA JOIN US.

HE'S GOING TO SHOW US THE VISION PLAN AND, UM, UH, UH, UPDATE US ON OTHER ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS CLEAR EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT COMMITTEES IS THE URBAN FOREST COMMITTEE GOING

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TO BE A WORKING GROUP AS WELL.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP THAT URBAN FORESTRY.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET SOME PEOPLE TO JOIN IN SO THAT WE CAN KEEP THAT COMMITTEE GOING.

WE HAVE SOME REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP, UH, AND IT'S IMPORTANT.

I THINK THAT WE CONTINUE TO KEEP OUR URBAN FORESTRY COMMITTEE.

UM, SO FOR RIGHT NOW, I WANT TO KEEP THAT INTACT.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

AND I'M WONDERING AT WHAT POINT WILL PEOPLE BE ABLE TO SAY THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF IT OR NOT? ARE YOU GOING TO JUST LOBBY PEOPLE INDIVIDUALLY OR COULD PEOPLE JUST SAY NOW THEY WANT TO BE ON IT OR WHAT YOU CAN JUST SAY NOW? AND I WILL LOBBY, BUT WE'VE GOT TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T JOINED IN YET, BUT I CAN'T LOBBY.

CAN I, NO, YOU CAN'T LOBBY.

DOES ANYBODY WANT TO BE ON THE URBAN FORESTRY COMMITTEE? WOULD THEY LIKE TO JOIN RIGHT NOW? IT'S JUST LINDA AND I, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE LEAVE THAT WERE ON IT AND PEGGY OF COURSE WAS WONDERFUL.

SHE WAS THE CHAIR.

SO IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THE URBAN FORESTRY, IT'S, UM, A GREAT COMMITTEE TO BE ON COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY CLOSED THAT ITEM.

SO WE CAN'T BRING IT UP AGAIN.

IT'S NO LONGER ON THE AGENDA, BUT IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN JOINING THAT COMMITTEE OR THE JOINT PARKS BOARD AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION COMMITTEE, WHICH ALSO HAS SOME VACANCIES, UM, YOU CAN JUST EMAIL ME DIRECTLY AND WE CAN COORDINATE THAT.

UM, THE SAME GOES FOR THE CHAIR POSITION, UM, COMMISSIONER OR, UM, CHAIR GRERRERO CAN APPOINT SOMEONE HERSELF, OR IF SOMEBODY IS INTERESTED IN THAT YOU CAN EMAIL CHAIR GUERRERO AND NOMINATE YOURSELF FOR THAT POSITION.

UM, AND THAT'S HOW WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT.