* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] SO WELCOME EVERYONE. [City-Community Reimagining Public Safety Task Force] THIS IS THE APRIL 15TH MEETING OF THE RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY TASK FORCE. I AM VALERIE HARRIS AND I AM YOUR PRODUCTION LEAD FOR TONIGHT. WE HAVE A FEW THINGS TO GO OVER BEFORE THE TASK FORCE BEGINS. IT'S ME IT'S BEFORE THE TASK FORCE BEGINS ITS WORK TONIGHT. UM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LISTEN IN SPANISH, PLEASE LOOK FOR THE INTERPRETATION ICON AT THE BOTTOM OF YOUR ZOOM SCREEN AND SELECT SPANISH. ONCE YOU'RE IN THE LANGUAGE CHANNEL, YOU WILL HEAR THE INTERPRETER'S VOICE A LITTLE LOUDER THAN THE ENGLISH SPEAKERS VOICE. IF THAT IS DISTRACTING, YOU CAN SELECT MUTE OR ORIGINAL AUDIO. SO ALL YOU WILL HEAR IS THE INTERPRETER SPEAKING IN SPANISH. ALSO, PLEASE TYPE THE LETTERS E S IN FRONT OF YOUR ZOOM NAME TO SHOW THAT YOU ARE LISTENING IN SPANISH. MARIO, WOULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT THIS IN SPANISH FOR ME? SORRY ABOUT THAT. OR SPANISH. IN ENGLISH ABOUT HUBBLE LOOMING OR THE OUT OF YOU PREFERENCE YET. THANK YOU, VALERIE. AND THANK YOU. SO ONCE AGAIN, FOR EVERYONE JUST SETTLING IN, THIS IS THE REIMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY TASK FORCE MEETING, AND I'M VALERIE, THE PRODUCTION LEAD JOINING ME ON THE PRODUCTION TEAM IS MARIANNA COREY AND SALT SOULE. WE ALSO HAVE JACQUELINE ELIZABETH AND ALEX IN THE SPANISH CHANNEL AND LAUREN AND SEAN ARE OUR ASL INTERPRETERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THIS MEETING. THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS WILL CONDUCT BUSINESS, BUT WILL NOT TAKE FEEDBACK FROM THE AUDIENCE AND WILL NOT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS LIVE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ADD, OR YOU WANT TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS YOU MAY SHARE, UM, YOU MAY SEND AN EMAIL OR GO TO THE REIMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY TASK FORCE PAGES, UM, ON OUR AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV WEBSITE. THIS SCREEN IS BEING SHARED NOW WITH THE EMAIL ADDRESS AND THE, UM, WEB ADDRESS FOR BOTH THE ENGLISH PAGE AND THE SPANISH PAGE. IF YOU HAVE TECHNICAL ISSUES AND YOU GET DROPPED OUT, YOU CAN LOOK ON THE AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV PAGE FOR INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO JOIN THE MEETING IN THE, TO JOIN THE, TO REJOIN THE WEBINAR. SO WE ARE ALSO STREAMING LIVE ON FACEBOOK, AND YOU CAN ALWAYS TUNE IN TO WATCH THE LIVE STREAM THERE ON THE CITY OF AUSTIN FACEBOOK PAGE, AND THAT'S AT FACEBOOK.COM/AUSTIN, TEXAS, THAT G O V. [00:05:01] AND WITH A REMINDER THAT WE ARE RECORDING THIS IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH, I GIVE YOU OVER TO THE RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY PASSWORDS. THANK YOU. AT . MY NAME IS AND I AM ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY TASK FORCE. UH, I'M A MOTHER AND A MIDWIFE, AND I'M ALSO A REPRESENTATIVE FOR CCU COMMUNITIES OF COLOR UNITED FOR RACIAL JUSTICE. MY PRONOUNS ARE SHE HER AND ADA, AND I WANT TO WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO THIS MEETING A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE PARTICIPATING MANY, HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING, UH, OUR, OUR REGULAR MEETINGS, OR MAYBE FOR SOME OF YOU. THIS IS THE FIRST, UH, BEFORE WE JUMP INTO TODAY'S AGENDA. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW HOW WE GOT HERE. WHAT TONIGHT IS AN IMPORTANT MEETING BECAUSE WE, AS THE RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY TASK FORCE WILL FINALIZE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO BE PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER NEXT TUESDAY. UH, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS THAT BEGAN IN AUGUST, BUT EVEN BEFORE THAT, BEFORE THEN THIS PROCESS BEGAN FROM FOR MANY YEARS, THE ISSUE OF POLICE VIOLENCE HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR COMMUNITIES IN PARTICULAR BLACK FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OTHER, UH, PEOPLE OF COLOR, BOTH LOCALLY IN AUSTIN AND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. MANY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND DECADES, BUT IN AUSTIN FOR THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN PUSHING CITY COUNCIL TO REALLY RETHINK HOW OUR GENERAL BUDGET IS ALLOCATED IN AUSTIN. AND WHY, AND QUESTION, THE REASON WHY SUCH A HUGE PERCENTAGE HAS GONE TO POLICING VERSUS OTHER AREAS SUCH AS HOUSING AND PUBLIC HEALTH. THOSE THAT KIND OF WORK OVER YEARS AND YEARS ACTUALLY CULMINATED THIS PAST YEAR IN THE NATIONAL UPRISINGS, UH, THAT HAPPENED IN 2020, BOTH LOCALLY AND NATIONALLY, REALLY PUSHING, UH, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFETIME. I THINK THIS IS A HISTORIC AND A HISTORIC MOMENT FOR, FOR MANY OF US, DO WE SEE ON A LARGE SCALE, A DEMAND THAT WE DEFUND POLICE AND THAT WE RETHINK HOW WE KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE IN A DIFFERENT WAY. THE CITY OF AUSTIN DECIDED TO CREATE THIS RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY TASK FORCE. IT HAS COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES ON ONE OF THEM AND THERE'S MANY MORE. AND IT ALSO HAS CITY REPRESENTATIVE, CITY STAFF REPRESENTATIVES. AND TOGETHER, SINCE AUGUST, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO REIMAGINE PUBLIC SAFETY FOR OUR CITY TOGETHER. WE STARTED BY SAYING BEFORE WE MAKE ANY PROPOSALS, WE NEED TO REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW DID WE GET TO THIS PLACE IN TERMS OF HOW INSTITUTIONS FUNCTION. AND WE LOOKED AT THE HISTORY OF POLICING IN THE UNITED STATES AND IN AUSTIN, STARTING WITH COLONIZATION AND ENSLAVEMENT AND GOING ALL THE WAY TO 2020, UH, IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WE THEN DECIDED TO CREATE GUIDING VALUES, UH, TO SERVE AS OUR COMPASS OF HOW WE WILL REIMAGINE AND HELP GUIDE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. AFTER THAT WE DEVELOPED WORKING GROUPS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN MEETING NOW FOR MONTHS, WE ACTIVELY HAVE NINE WORKING GROUPS RIGHT NOW, AND EACH WORKING GROUP HAS OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT PART OF THE TASK FORCE, WORKING WITH US TO DEVELOP THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TONIGHT. UH, WE WILL FINALIZE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT LAST MEETING WE HAD PROPOSALS, BUT WE'VE ALSO ENGAGED IN LISTENING SESSIONS, BOTH SMALL ONES AND WITHIN WORKING GROUPS, AND ALSO A CITY-WIDE LISTENING SESSION LAST SATURDAY, WHERE WE HAD A FLOOD OF TESTIMONIES OF LOCAL RESIDENTS OF AUSTIN WHO HAVE BEEN HARMED BY POLICING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND IMMIGRATION. SO TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO PULL ALL OF THAT TOGETHER HERE, UH, IN A VERY LONG MEETING. SO, UH, IT'S THREE HOURS. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WILL PARTICIPATE WITH US. AND I WILL PASS THE MIC TO MY CO-CHAIR BRIAN OAKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PAULA. AND WELCOME EVERYONE TO TONIGHT'S MEETING. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG JOURNEY, BUT WE ARE REALLY SO EXCITED TO FINALLY RECEIVE THE FINAL PROPOSALS FROM ALL THE WORKING GROUPS FOR TONIGHT. AND WE REALLY WANT [00:10:01] TO RECOGNIZE, UM, THE TIME, THE DEDICATION, THE PASSION, THE COMMITMENT OF ALL THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS. AND ALSO, AS PAULA SAID, ALL OF THE OTHER MEMBERS WHO PARTICIPATED IN WORK GROUPS THAT WERE NOT ON THE TASK FORCE, BUT STILL PUT IN HOURS, UH, OF THEIR VOLUNTEER TIME TO HELP US BUILD AND DEVELOP THESE PROPOSALS THROUGH THE GUIDING VALUES THAT WERE, UH, ESTABLISHED BY THE TASK FORCE. ONE OF THE GUIDING VALUES OF OUR TASK FORCES THAT WE REALLY ROOT OURSELVES IN THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT. AND SO IT'S BECOME OUR CUSTOM NOW TO REALLY DO A LANDING KNOWLEDGEMENT, UH, FOR OUR MEETINGS. AND I'LL DO THAT TONIGHT. SO LET US ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY ON THE LAND OF THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE, THE TOCCOA, THE APACHE DIAZ, LETA DEL PUEBLO, THE LIPAN APACHE TRIBE, THE TEXAS BAND OF THE AND OTHER TRIBES THAT I MAY HAVE FAILED TO MENTION TONIGHT. THESE INDIGENOUS COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MANY GENERATIONS AND CONTINUE TO BE SYSTEMATICALLY RAISED BY POLICIES AND PRACTICES THAT WE MOVED THEIR HISTORIES FROM THIS PLACE. LET US ALSO HONOR THE ENSLAVED BLACK PEOPLE WHO BUILT THE WEALTH AND FOUNDATION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN HISTORY TELLS US THAT THIS CITY IS FIRST GRADE AND BUILDINGS WERE BUILT BY THIS STOLEN LABOR. LET US RECOGNIZE AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE HISTORIES OF TEXAS. AND THE UNITED STATES IS COMPLICIT WITH THE INSTITUTION OF RACISM. WE RECOGNIZE THAT THESE DIFFICULT HISTORIES, PERSISTENT PRESENT DAY RACIAL INEQUITIES AND WHAT WE CALL DISPARATE OUTCOME, LET US COMMIT TO UNDOING RACISM IN EVERY RESPECT OF SPACES OF OUR WORK. AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR FACILITATOR. RC, THANK YOU SO MUCH, BRIAN AND BOLA. I'M ROSANNA CRUZ. I ALSO GO BY RC OR HOSANA FOR SPANISH SPEAKERS. I WILL BE YOUR FACILITATOR TODAY. I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN SO WE CAN BRIEFLY GO OVER THE OPERATING AGREEMENTS FOR THE EVENING. UM, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE RECOMMIT OURSELVES TO THE VALUE OF PRIORITIZING THOSE WHO ARE MOST IMPACTED, UM, IN OUR PRACTICE OF THESE OPERATING AGREEMENTS TONIGHT. AND I WILL REMIND US THAT AS THE FACILITATOR, I'M HERE TO GUIDE OUR CONVERSATION WITHIN ITS PURPOSE AND TOWARDS ITS OUTCOMES IN THE MOST EASE EASEL, AND JUST WAY POSSIBLE. I AM GOING TO ASK EVERY TASK FORCE MEMBER AND EVERY PARTICIPANTS, COOPERATION AND SHARING THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SUCCESS OF TODAY'S SESSION. AND I APOLOGIZE, IT SAYS LISTENING SESSION, BUT I'M REFERRING TO OUR, OUR TASK FORCE MEETING TODAY THAT WE COMMIT NOT ONLY TO BEING HEARD, BUT TO ENSURING THAT OTHERS ARE HEARD, THAT WE'LL SHARE TIME, THAT WE WON'T INTERRUPT EACH OTHER, AND THAT WILL VALUE AND PRIORITIZE THOSE OF US WHO DON'T OFTEN GET HEARD WHEN CITYWIDE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE. AND I'M GOING TO PUT A FINER POINT ON THAT TONIGHT BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A HUGE TASK AHEAD OF US. AND I KNOW THAT, UM, IT CAN BE DAUNTING, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IF EACH OF US IS REALLY, UH, DEEP IN OUR DISCERNMENT OF WHAT WE'RE SHARING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T REPEAT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID, AND THAT OUR PURPOSE IN SPEAKING IS TO MOVE THE CONVERSATION FORWARD. I KNOW THAT WE'LL BE SUCCESSFUL TONIGHT. SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU AND MOVE US INTO OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, WHICH IS TO DEBRIEF, UM, THE COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSION FROM SATURDAY. AND, UM, I WANT TO SAY A HUGE THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS FROM SATURDAY. UM, I THINK IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL, UH, RE-IMAGINING EXERCISE AND, UM, I'M HOPEFUL THAT ALL OF THE FOLKS WHO DID SPEAK AND THE, THOSE WHO GAVE TESTIMONY, BUT WEREN'T ABLE TO, UM, GET ON THE MIC ARE, UM, AWARE OF THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE GIFT CARD FROM GRASSROOTS LEADERSHIP. UM, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE DROP SOME INFORMATION ON, UM, HOW, WHO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CONTACT AND HOW TO DO IT IN CASE YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO GET, UM, THAT GIFT CARD AND YOU DID TESTIFY OR SHARE YOUR TESTIMONY ON SATURDAY. AND SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR, INVITE ANY TASK FORCE MEMBERS WHO WANT TO SHARE ABOUT SATURDAY, [00:15:04] I'LL GO FIRST, MONICA GUZMAN, SHE, HER HERS WITH GOV GO AUSTIN, VAMOS AUSTIN. IT WAS, IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. IT WAS AMAZING TO HAVE SO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS PRESENT, UM, OBVIOUSLY EMOTIONAL AS WELL. I DIDN'T EXPECT TO GET THAT WAY TONIGHT, BUT IT WAS. AND, AND, UH, I'M SO GLAD THAT TOGETHER, THE TASK FORCE WORKFORCE MEMBERS, EVERYBODY THAT WE KNOW OUR NETWORKS, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HELP LIFT THE VOICES AND GET THEM TO THE MIC AS IT WERE SO THEY CAN BE HEARD. AND THERE'S SO MANY MORE THAT HAVE YET TO BE HEARD, BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT GETS DONE. SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE. THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY THAT SPOKE. I JUST LIKE TO SAY HOW IMPRESSED I CONTINUE TO BE BY THE, BY THE PEOPLE, EVEN IN SPITE OF FEELING INCITED, NOT FEEL SAFE IN THE HANDS OF THE CITY, IN SPITE OF SEEING RECENT THINGS THAT HAVE GIVEN PEOPLE EVEN MORE REASON TO FEEL LESS SAFE AT THE HANDS OF THE CITY. IT'S ALWAYS EMPOWERING FOR ME TO SEE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE STILL SHOW UP AND LET THEIR VOICES BE HEARD, REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH DISRESPECT THEY, THEY RECEIVE PHARMACY. THANK YOU FOR THAT, DAVID AND I DID WANT TO MENTION, AND I S I SEE YOUR HAND, AMANDA, UM, THAT WE RAN OUT OF. WE HAD WAY MORE FOLKS WHO WANTED TO JUSTIFY THAN TIME. UM, WE DID EXTEND OVER AN HOUR, BUT I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UM, IN ORDER TO, TO MAKE THIS THE MOST DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, WE REALLY WOULD HAVE NEEDED SO MUCH MORE TIME IN SO MANY MORE AVENUES TO CAPTURE ALL OF THAT COMMUNITY INPUT. AND ALSO ALL OF THE FOLKS WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO JOIN US ON. AND SO JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AMANDA, AND THEN CHRIS. YEAH, I, I THINK I ECHO, UM, WHAT OTHER FOLKS HAVE SAID. I THINK IT WAS DEEPLY, DEEPLY PROFOUND, AND I KNOW FOR ME AND MY WORKING GROUP, IT REALLY HELPED HER RECENTER US ON OUR VALUES. AND, UM, AND SO I THINK IT REALLY HELPED, UM, TO HEAR KIND OF THOSE DETAILS. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A LOT OF STUFF LIKE THAT. WE MAYBE HAVE HER, AND, BUT I THINK JUST THE EXTENT AND THE INTEREST OF PEOPLE LIKE BEING ABLE TO LEAD IN THIS AS WELL. LIKE IT, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT WITH FOLKS TO BUILD OUT SOME OF THEIR SPECIFIC, UM, ASK THAT THEY HAD OF US AND OF THE CITY. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE. UM, I ALSO WAS THINKING IT WOULD BE MAYBE REALLY GREAT IF WE COULD HAVE LIKE A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION, UM, OF OUR MEETINGS. I MEAN, OUR MEETINGS ARE SUPER LONG RIGHT NOW, ANYWAY, SO MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S NOT AS, UM, THESE BUBBLE, BUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, 20 MINUTES, HALF AN HOUR BEFORE JUST TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE REALLY GREAT. UM, IF NOT JUST BUILDING IN MORE, UM, LISTENING SESSIONS, UH, FOR THAT KIND OF ENGAGEMENT. UM, AND, AND LIKE I SAID, LOOKING FOR WAYS TO PLUG PEOPLE INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY CAN BE A PART OF, UM, WHAT, WHAT THEY THINK NEEDS TO REALLY, REALLY BE CHANGED. THANK YOU, AMANDA, CHRIS, AND THEN A DONG, UH, YEAH. UM, I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A WORK CAMP TONIGHT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT WAS INCREDIBLY MOVING IN AND, UM, [00:20:01] AND I'M, I'M JUST SO IN AWE OF JUST HOW INCREDIBLY PROFOUND AND, AND ELOQUENT AND MOVING, UH, PEOPLE CAN BE. UH, AND SO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR CITY ARE IN PARTICULARLY FOLKS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED SO MUCH, UH, HARM AT THE HANDS OF, OF SYSTEMS THAT ARE, ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HARM THEM. AND, AND I'M REALLY, I'M REALLY TIRED. UH, I'M, I'M TIRED OF THE FACT THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE TO DO THINGS LIKE THAT AND SEE VIDEOS LIKE ADAM TOLEDO AND, AND THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO MOVE PEOPLE AND DO THINGS. IN FACT, ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD BE ON THIS TASK FORCE AND JUST MAKING THE DECISIONS, UH, BECAUSE, UH, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TELL THEIR STORIES ANYMORE. UH IT'S ANYWAY, I I'M JUST, I JUST VERY THANKFUL TO THEM, UM, AND TO EVERYONE THAT, INTO THIS TASK FORCE FOR, FOR CREATING THAT SPACE AND, AND I'M, AND I'M SORRY, I'M REALLY, I'M REALLY SORRY THAT, SO THAT, THAT FOLKS FOR FOLKS THAT DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT, THAT THEY FELT THAT THEY NEEDED TO. THANK YOU, CHRIS, AND THANK YOU FOR LIFTING UP THE NAMES, UM, AND, AND LIFTING UP THOSE FOLKS DONE. IT'S JUST REAL QUICK. I AGREE WITH, UM, AMANDA, AROUND, UM, MAKING MORE SPACE WITH YOUR, UM, PEOPLE'S VOICES. NOT JUST WANT IT TO SAY THAT NEED THAT. I APPRECIATE THE TIME. UM, IT WAS VERY POWERFUL AND, UH, FOR ME, FOR THE WORKING THIS GROUP, BUT ALSO, UM, FOR WORK IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE AT MY ORGANIZATION AS WELL, I TOOK A LOT OF NUGGETS AROUND, UM, SOME VARIOUS PARTICULAR CHANGES. WE DID START TO WORK ON AS WELL. I APPRECIATE YOUR TASKFORCE. UM, UM, EVERYONE HAS PUT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK, UM, AND BOUGHT INTO MOVING THINGS FORWARD. AND, UM, AND ALL OF THE PLANNING MEETINGS COULD BE AS POWERFUL AND IMPORTANT AS THE ONE WE HAD ON SATURDAY. WE'D GET A LOT DONE A LOT QUICKER, PAYS A LOT. I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE. THANKS, DON. AND THERE WASN'T A NOTE JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. IT WAS A LITTLE, YOUR VOLUME WAS A LITTLE LOW, SO SHE COULD BE CLOSER TO THE MIC IN THE FUTURE WITH THAT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO, UNLESS THERE'S, I SEE YOUR HAND. AND THEN AFTER YOUR COMMENT, WE'LL MOVE INTO THE REVIEW OF THE WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS. I WANT US TO START THAT SEGMENT WITH THE SURVIVORS, UH, SERVICES AND PREVENTION WORKING GROUP THAT DID NOT GET TO FINISH THEIR PRESENTATION LAST TIME. SO PAULA, AND THEN, UH, AND THEN AMANDA, THANK YOU, PAULA CCU. SHE, HER ADA, I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE LITTLE PIECE, WHICH WAS THAT I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK DONE TO EVEN CREATE A SENSE OF, UM, SEMI TRUST FOR PEOPLE TO COME ON SATURDAY. SO IF THE CITY HAD JUST PUT OUT, LIKE WE'RE DOING A CITY-WIDE LISTENING SESSION, HERE'S THE COME, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THE TURNOUT THAT IT WAS THE REASON WHY THE TURNOUT WAS THERE WAS THAT A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY GROUPS INVOLVED, ALL OF US, UM, ENCOURAGED OUR FOLKS TO PARTICIPATE AND, UM, KIND OF VOUCHED FOR THIS SPACE TO SAY IT IS WORTH IT. UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT, THAT IT ISN'T JUST THE FORMAL CITY AND LISTENING SESSION, BUT IT'S THE, IT'S THE RELATIONSHIPS, UM, THAT AND TRUST THAT HELPS PEOPLE EVEN MAKE THAT SMALL STEP OF A BRIDGE. THANK YOU, PAULA AND AMANDA, JUST BEFORE YOU, UM, GO INTO YOUR FINISHING YOUR PRESENTATION. AND I KNOW THAT IT'S A LENGTHY DOCUMENT. I WANT TO REMIND ALL OF THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS SO THAT THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS KNOW AT HOME THAT THERE'S A LONG NUMBER, A NUMBER OF LONG DOCUMENTS, UM, THAT, UH, WE HAD VERY LITTLE TIME TO REVIEW. UM, AND JUST WANTING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS SEGMENT TO FINISH THE PRESENTATIONS, TO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, POPCORN STYLE OF ANY OF THE WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS [00:25:01] SO FAR. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER SEGMENT WHERE WE'LL DO ANY SUGGESTIONS, AMENDMENTS, AND THEN VOTING. UM, AND THAT'S ALL IN PREPARATION FOR THE APRIL 20TH PRESENTATION ON TUESDAY TO CITY COUNCIL, WHICH WILL BE OUR LAST SECTION OF OUR AGENDA TODAY. AND I'LL REMIND YOU MY PRONOUNS. ARE THEY THEM THEIRS? AND I WANTED TO SHARE AS WE MOVE INTO THIS AND BRING INTO THE SPACE, UM, THE WISDOM OF A GREAT TEXAN, BARBARA JORDAN, AND, UM, HER SPIRIT OF HARD WORK, UM, IN THE FACE OF ENORMOUS CHALLENGE. AND THIS QUOTE THAT I FOUND I CAME ACROSS THIS WEEK REALLY SPOKE TO ME. SHE SAID THE TRANSITION FROM DREAMS AND RHETORIC TO FACT IS NOT AN EASY ONE. THE PATH IS FRAUGHT WITH TRAVAIL. AND SO WITH THAT, I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND WORK HARD AND MAKE MAGIC TONIGHT. SO AMANDA, THANK YOU FOR THE, UM, THE EXTRA TIME. AND I JUST WANTED TO, I THINK LAST TIME I TALKED ABOUT KIND OF THE GUIDING VALUES, UM, WE DID EXPAND ON SOME OF THAT AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE JUST TO KIND OF READ, UM, UH, THIS SENTENCE OR THIS PARAGRAPH, BECAUSE IT REALLY KIND OF PLAYS INTO ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE EXPECTATIONS OUR WORKING GROUP HAS, WAS TO, UM, COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATION AROUND VICTIM SERVICES, WHETHER TO DECOUPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING. SO WE'VE WROTE THIS NOTE. UM, OUR WORKING GROUP IS AWARE THAT MUCH OF THE PUBLIC CONVERSATION AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY AND VICTIMS, UM, HAS CENTERED ON THE POSSIBILITY OF DECOUPLING, UH, VICTIM SERVICES AND ABD AND THIS WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATION ON THAT MATTER MAY BE FOUND. UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT IT LATER ON IN THE DOCUMENT, BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO, UM, UH, RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY THINK MORE BROADLY ABOUT SERVICES FOR VICTIMS AND SURVIVORS IN AUSTIN. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT VICTIM SERVICES AS CURRENTLY CONFIGURED IS REALLY JUST ONE SMALL PIECE OF A LARGER PIE. UM, AND RATHER THAN TRYING TO DIVIDE UP THIS ONE SLICE, UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY SHOULD EXPAND THE ENTIRE POOL OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY TO SURVIVORS AND HEALING. UM, AND FOR THE RESTORATION OF REPAIR AND HARM, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDING BEING DEDICATED TO RESOURCES OUTSIDE OF THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM WITHOUT, UM, DEUCING, UH, FUNDING FOR EXISTING EXISTING VICTIM SERVICES. SO JUST KIND OF TO REITERATE THAT WE, WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO THINK A LOT BIGGER. UM, WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE GENERATIONAL VIOLENCE AND COMMUNITY HARM CAUSED BY OUR SYSTEMS OF POLICING MEANS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN AUSTIN THAT CANNOT AND WILL NOT ACCESS THE CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM FOR REMEDIES. AND SO THIS WORKING GROUP, UM, YOU KNOW, ASK THAT THE CITY FUND A PROLIFERATION OF SERVICES, UM, THAT NOT ONLY GIVE ACCESS TO, UM, DIFFERENT SERVICES, BUT ALSO, UM, UM, THAT DON'T REQUIRE ANY KIND OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THAT SYSTEM. UM, SO, UH, WE IDENTIFIED, UM, I THINK AS IDENTIFIED BY DEATH PROBATE PER PATROL AND SURVEILLANCE WORK GROUP, WE'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN THAT KIND OF UPROOTING HARMFUL, UM, CULTURE'S PIECE. UM, AND WE THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF EVEN LOOKING AT THE SYSTEM, UM, THAT WE HAVE LIKE VICTIM SERVICES, HOW DO WE UPROOT THAT CULTURE AS WELL? UM, AND OF COURSE THAT, UM, JUST, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THESE SERVICES ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UM, AND OF COURSE, UM, ARE RAN BY COMMUNITIES, UM, THAT ARE THE RECIPIENTS OF THAT, THAT THOSE SERVICES. UM, SO THE FIRST SECTION WE HAVE IS THAT, UM, COMMUNITY-BASED, UM, SERVICES FOR SURVIVORS AND, UM, SOME OF THE WORKING GROUP MEMBERS CAME UP WITH A BEAUTIFUL, UM, GRANT PROGRAM AND WHERE WE CALLED IT COMMUNITY ROOTED SAFETY GRANT PROGRAM, BECAUSE WE IDENTIFY THAT MAYBE ORGANIZATIONS OR THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, THESE ORGANIZATIONS MAY NOT EXIST YET. UM, AND WE DEFINITELY KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, UM, BUT WE WANTED TO REALLY SHAPE A GRANT, A COMMUNITY-BASED GRANT PROGRAM, UM, THAT LOOKS AT SAFETY AND IMMEDIATE WELLBEING FOR PEOPLE WHO'VE EXPERIENCED HARM HEALING AND REPAIR FROM HARM AND PREVENTION, SOME HARM, UM, AND WE WANTED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC AND HOW [00:30:01] WE HOOK THAT BRANCH, UM, IS ADMINISTERED. AND WE HOPE FOR, UH, 350,000 PER YEAR TO FUND, UM, COMMUNITY GROUPS. AND, UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS ABOUT WHERE THIS COULD BE HOUSED MAYBE FROM THE EQUITY OFFICE OR THE OFFICE OF VIOLENCE PREVENTION. UM, BUT IF YOU REVIEW THE DOCUMENT, YOU HAVE, THERE'S A LOT MORE KIND OF DETAILS ABOUT ELIGIBILITY ENSURING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH A LOT OF HOOPS IN ORDER TO APPLY, UM, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, REALLY MAKING SURE THAT THERE ARE MORE COMMUNITY SPECIFIC OPTIONS, LGBTQ, UM, IMMIGRANTS, YOUTH, UH, FOLKS WITH DISABILITIES. UM, SO THAT IS, I THINK ONE OF OUR MAIN RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO RECOMMENDED TRAUMA RECOVERY CENTER MODELS, UM, THAT REALLY COMES OUT OF A CRIME SURVIVORS FOR SAFETY AND JUSTICE AND ALLIANCE FOR SAFETY AND JUSTICE. UM, YES, SORRY ABOUT THE SPEED. UM, THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, UM, CREATED THE TRC MODEL AND I BELIEVE IT'S BASED OUT OF CALIFORNIA, BUT WE HAVE A LOCAL TEXAS CHAPTER THAT, UM, REALLY PROMOTES, UM, BASICALLY TRAUMA CENTERS ARE CULTURALLY RESPONSIVE, UM, TRAUMA INFORMED THERAPY AND CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR SURVIVORS OF ALL VIOLENT CRIME. AND THEY DON'T NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THEY'RE, CO-LOCATED IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THAT COMMUNITY AND LIVE BY THOSE COMMUNITIES. AND I THINK IT WOULD FIT REALLY WELL WITH OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT FORTH. UM, BUT THAT'S WHEN OFTEN, AND USUALLY THEY HAVE, UM, RELATIONSHIPS WITH HOSPITALS. I THINK I MENTIONED THAT, UM, I DID MENTION THE SEX WORKER OUTREACH SERVICES. UM, THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT IS 460,000, UH, FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND TWO 60 K UM, AFTER THAT FOR OUTREACH SERVICES AND THEN FURTHER ENGAGEMENT, UM, COMMUNITY BASED ECONOMIC SERVICES. SO, OH, YOU DOWN VERBALLY BECAUSE I, AND I, I THINK I ALMOST DIDN'T HEAR YOU. YOU SAID THE SEX WORKER OUTREACH. YES. AND I DID MENTION THIS LAST MEETING, UM, BUT THAT IS TO CONDUCT SURVEYS, UM, ABOUT VIOLENCE WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES AND STRENGTHEN THE DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE, PEER SUPPORT PROGRAMMING. UM, UH, SO THAT COULD LOOK LIKE A BAD DATE LIST, UM, PAID PEER MENTORSHIP AND MUTUAL AID STREET OUTREACH AND HARM REDUCTION, PUBLIC HEALTH CAMPAIGN AGAINST STIGMA FOR SEX WORKERS, UM, AND DRUG USING POPULATIONS OF THE SERVICE PROVIDERS GET THAT. AND THEN CULTURAL COMPANY COMPETENCY TRAINING FOR LEGAL MEDICAL AND SOCIAL SERVICE PROVIDERS. UM, AND THEN GOING ON TO ECONOMIC SERVICES, I THINK JUST TO REINFORCE THE IMPORTANCE OF MUTUAL AID AND MAKING SURE THERE'S, UM, LARGER BUCKETS OF MONEY IN DIFFERENT PLACES, AGAIN, DECENTRALIZING SERVICES FOR, UM, FOLKS NEEDING TO ESCAPE HARM OR, UM, KIND OF EARLY INTERVENTION FOR HARM, AND YOU NEED A BUS TO GET ADDED TO OUR, WHATEVER IT COULD BE. SO ONE OF THE PROGRAMS CURRENTLY FUNDED IS CALLED BRIDGES TO SAFETY AT THE SAFE ALLIANCE, AND WE REALLY RECOMMEND HAVING OTHER BUCKETS. UM, MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD MODEL, UM, AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT HAVING THOSE KINDS OF READILY IMMEDIATE FUNDS THAT ARE NOT REIMBURSEMENT BEADS, SO IT DOESN'T REQUIRE SOMEONE TO ALREADY SPEND THAT MONEY, UM, IN ORDER TO GET REIMBURSED AND DOESN'T REQUIRE A POLICE REPORT. I AM WORKING ON MY SPEED, SORRY. AND, UM, AND THAT RECOMMENDATION, UM, WOULD BE LOOKING AT INSTEAD OF ONE SITE FOR THAT FUNDING, EXPANDING THAT TO SIX SITES. UM, AND THAT WOULD COST ABOUT 450,000 A YEAR. AND THEN OF COURSE, I THINK IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT TYPE OF FUNDING MORE, UM, BROADLY AVAILABLE, REALLY, UM, MAKING SURE THERE'S NOT A BUNCH OF WAYS TO, FOR PEOPLE TO QUALIFY. UM, AND, UM, YEAH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S FAIR THAT WHEN WE ALSO HAVE COMMUNITY-BASED HOUSING RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, AND I MENTIONED THIS LAST WEEK, UM, BUT [00:35:01] I THINK IN OTHER PEOPLE HAVE, UM, MENTIONED THIS AS WELL. THAT HOUSING IS SO KEY TO SAFETY AND THE FEELING OF SAFETY AND JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAL FROM TRAUMA WHEN YOU'RE IN CRISIS AND YOU HAVE NOWHERE TO LIVE. RIGHT. SO, UM, I THINK MAKING SURE PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY IS A HIGH PRIORITY. UM, AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND THAT. SO WHEN WOULD BE, UM, UH, FOR FUNDING, ESPECIALLY SPECIFICALLY FOR BLACK TRANS INITIATIVES AROUND THE CITY, UM, FOR A HOUSING TRUST, UM, AND THAT WAS THROUGH BLACK TRANS LEADERSHIP OF AUSTIN, UM, AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR 600,000, UM, TO, TO CREATE, UM, THAT HOUSING TRUST. UM, WE ALSO KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA NEED DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING AVAILABILITY, AND A LOT OF TIMES IN CRISIS, WE FOCUS ON SHELTER. AND SO EXPANDING TO REALLY LOOK AT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, UM, AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT, THAT THERE'S THIS CONTINUATION OF HOUSING. UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS A BIG ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I THINK ALTOGETHER THINKING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT VARIETY OF HOUSING NEEDS, UM, AND DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR TRANSITIONAL AND WRAPAROUND SERVICES, THAT FUNDING RECOMMENDATION IS 15 MILLION A YEAR. UM, BUT I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD DEAL. UM, UH, WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO VIOLENCE, PREVENTION IS A BIG, UH, AN IMPORTANT PIECE AND OFTEN A PIECE THAT PEOPLE DON'T FUND AS READILY AS THEY SHOULD, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW THE SAME OUTCOMES. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SPECIFIC FUNDING TO, UM, ENGAGE WITH YOUNG PEOPLE, ALL THE TOUGH PEOPLE, BUT DEFINITELY YOUNG PEOPLE. SO, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF GREAT PROGRAMS THAT ARE SCHOOL-BASED, UM, WHETHER THEY'RE INTER ENGAGING WITH YOUNG PEOPLE, UM, LIKE LGBT YOUTH OR KIDS THAT, UM, UH, PARENTS THAT ARE INCARCERATED OR FORMERLY INCARCERATED. UM, BUT THESE PROGRAMS ALSO OF COURSE BUILD COMMUNITY WITHIN PEOPLE, BUT ALSO HELP IN, UM, KIND OF THE SKILLS AROUND, UM, EARLY INTERVENTION AND PREVENTION. AND SO RIGHT NOW, UM, WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS AND THEY'RE NOT TOO, THEY'RE NOT VERY EXPENSIVE. THEY REALLY TAKE AROUND, YOU KNOW, SEVEN, I THINK THE ONES THAT WE LOOKED AT LOOKED ABOUT LIKE 15,000 PER SCHOOL, UH, TO IMPLEMENT. SO, UM, THE CITY PUTTING AROUND 500,000 INTO IMPLEMENTATION FOR PREVENTION BASED SCHOOL-BASED SERVICES. AND THEN WE, UM, SO THOSE ARE OUR COMMUNITY-BASED RECOMMENDATIONS. I'LL, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE INTERNAL CITY OF AUSTIN RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, OUR FIRST WAS AROUND MENTAL HEALTH REFERRAL FUND RIGHT NOW WITH SOME SERVICES AND, UH, AND A HOST OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS HAVE, UM, ACCESS TO EMDR FUNDS, WHICH IS TO TRAIN COMMUNITY-BASED THERAPISTS TO, UM, LEARN EMDR TRAINING FOR FREE, WHICH IS A CRISIS, UM, RESPONSE OR CRISIS BASED THERAPY. UM, JUST A COUPLE OF SESSIONS AND IT HELPS WITH TRAUMA RECOVERY, UM, TO EXPAND THAT PROGRAM TO INCLUDE DIFFERENT TYPES OF HEALING MODALITIES AND ACTUALLY, UM, PAY, UM, HEALERS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO PEOPLE WHO'VE EXPERIENCED VIOLENCE FOR FREE. AND SO THE IDEA WOULD BE THEY KIND OF TAKE THAT FUND OUT OF, UM, JUST VICTIM SERVICES AND THAT GROUP OF FOLKS, AND TO MAKE THAT KIND OF FUNDING WIDELY AVAILABLE TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS SO THAT WE CAN PAY HEALERS, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE MORE, UM, UH, WHATEVER WE THINK OF AS LIKE, UM, EMPLOYMENT DEVELOPMENT. I FORGOT WHEN I'M LOSING MY WORDS, BUT THAT KIND OF, UM, DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE HEALING SERVICES THAT CAN REALLY KIND OF BE MORE CULTURALLY RESONANT THAN THEIR THERAPY. UM, SO THAT'S THAT PROGRAM AND THEN SAFETY FOR SEX WORKERS. WE DO RECOMMEND THAT, UM, THE CITY RELEASED INDIVIDUALS ARRESTED AND STOP ARRESTING INDIVIDUALS FOR PROSTITUTION AND SOLICITATION AND THE CITY SHOULD ADVOCATE FOR THE COUNTY. THIS WAS CHARGES [00:40:01] AND FOR THE EXPUNGEMENT OF RECORDS, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY CONVICTED, UM, I THINK A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE LIKE, HEY, LET'S, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE SEX WORKERS ARE SAFE? I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO GET TO, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH FOLKS AND SEX WORKERS THAT ARE ENGAGING WITH THIS SYSTEM. AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF HARM. UM, THE STUDY SHOULD ALSO ADVOCATE TO END PHOENIX COURT AND INSTEAD FOR, FOR INDIVIDUALS TO LOCAL COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMS THAT ARE RELEVANT TO THEIR NEEDS. UM, AND IF THOSE APPROPRIATE PROGRAMS DON'T EXIST, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE HOPE TO USE, YOU KNOW, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO DEVELOP THOSE PROGRAMS THAT ARE REALLY PEER BASED. UM, I THINK THE GOAL IS TO GO TOWARDS FULL DECRIMINALIZATION, RIGHT. UM, AND, UM, THERE ARE SOME GOOD MODELS. SO BALTIMORE, UM, HAS STOPPED ARRESTING AND PROSECUTING LOW, UH, MINOR OFFENSES, UM, LIKE, UH, PROSTITUTION, DRUG POSSESSION TO PRESS PASSING OPEN CONTAINER, UM, PUBLIC URINATION, POSSESSION. UM, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS I HAVE WORKED DETAILS, UM, AND THE DOCUMENT, BUT I THINK AUSTIN REALLY TAKING THE LEAD ON MOVING TOWARDS DECRIMINALIZATION OF THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES. UM, AND REALLY, I'M JUST SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH IMPORTANT AND VITAL INFORMATION. AND IT'S REALLY AT THE HEART OF THE TRANSFORMATIVE PROCESS THAT THE WHOLE TASK FORCE IS INVOLVED IN, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ABLE TO GET TO OTHER GROUPS AND THE QUESTION, SO, UM, DO YOU HAVE LIKE MAYBE A SUMMARY THAT CAN BE DONE IN ONE OR TWO MINUTES OF WHATSAPP? GREAT. YEAH, I CAN. OKAY. SO THE NEXT ONE IS OPPOSITE VIOLENCE PREVENTION. WE WERE ASKED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW THAT ORGANIZATION COULD OPERATE OR THAT DEPARTMENT COULD OPERATE. AND WE DO SEE IT AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE WITH THE WORK OF THEIR, UM, THE TASK FORCE, UM, AND MAYBE HOW SOME OF THESE INITIATIVES AND GRANT PROGRAMS. SO, UM, AND I, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THAT OFFICE FOCUSES ON PEER VIOLENCE. UM, AND THERE ARE SOME GREAT, UM, PROGRAMS AND OTHER CITIES AND OTHER WAYS THAT OPPOSITE VIOLENCE PREVENTION OPERATES. SO DEFINITELY CHECK OUT OUR RECOMMENDATION. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS THERE, 500 K TO BUILD COMMUNITY CAPACITY ASSETS, DO DEEP COMMUNITY LEVEL WORK AND MAKE THAT A CONTINUOUS PART OF WHAT THAT OFFICE DOES. UM, AND, UM, YEAH, SO I'LL, I'LL, THAT'S IT FOR THAT WAY. AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS DONE. VICTIM SERVICES RE REITERATING THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO TO MAKE SURE VICTIMS ARE NOT BEING, UM, NOT EXPERIENCED ADDITIONAL HARM WITHIN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. SO I THINK, UM, NEEDING FOR, UH, VICTIM SERVICES, IF, UH, DECOUPLED FROM APD TO RETAIN PHYSICAL CO-LOCATED PATIENT AND ACCESS TO, UM, THE DATABASES THAT APD USES, SO THAT VICTIMS STILL HAVE THAT ADVOCACY THROUGH THE SYSTEM. I'M ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT DAY, UM, DEDICATE, UM, SOMETIME WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE TO, UH, TO GO THROUGH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND, UM, WHAT WAS FOUND IN THEIR EQUITY ASSESSMENT. UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. AND THEN, UM, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AROUND TRAINING AND THE CADETS AND ONGOING TRAINING. UM, THAT'S TRAUMA-INFORMED, AND THAT IS ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU REALLY ROBUST. I WANT TO INVITE THE, UM, NOW THE PUBLIC HEALTH, UH, GROUP HAD REQUESTED, UM, FOR THERE TO BE ADDITIONAL TIME TO, UM, SUPPLEMENT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I'D LIKE TO CALL ON THEM. UM, I THINK IT'S ELI CORTEZ. HI EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. UH, MY NAME IS ELI CORTEZ. MY PRONOUNS ARE HE HIM? HIS AND I AM A WORKING GROUP MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH WORK GROUP AND THE EQUITY REINVESTMENT WORK GROUP. UM, AFTER THE COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSION ON SATURDAY, UM, I'M SORRY, MY DOG IS ASKING ME TO BE LOUD. UM, WE IDENTIFIED THE [00:45:01] NEED TO EXPAND THE BASE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, TO MAKE IT MORE HOLISTIC AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD. UM, SO WE ADDED QUITE A FEW THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SOME TIME TO REVIEW TODAY WITH Y'ALL, UM, THE FIRST, UM, SO I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER THE ONES THAT WE HAD ALREADY DISCUSSED, BUT RATHER THE NEW ONES. UM, LAST TIME WE HAD INTRODUCED THE COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND TRAINING HUB AS A CONTINUATION OF THAT, WE WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO ENTER A PARTNERSHIP WITH TRAVIS COUNTY CENTRAL HEALTH AND DELL MEDICINE AND OPEN COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS THAT OFFER LOW COST AND SLIDING SCALE INTEGRATED CARE CLINICS, WHICH WOULD OPERATE AS HOME BASIS FOR THAT COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKFORCE. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO OPEN FIVE OF THOSE LOCATED IN STRATEGIC LOCATIONS, CONCENTRATED IN THE EASTERN CRESCENT TO COMBAT THE SYSTEMIC VIOLENCE OVER POLICING AND TARGETED GENTRIFICATION OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE LIVING. UH, THE SECOND STEP WOULD BE TO DEVELOP A CONTRACT WITH DELL MEDICAL SCHOOL, TRAVIS COUNTY, AND OR CENTRAL HEALTH, WHICHEVER IS THE APPROPRIATE AUTHORITY TO FUND AND SUPPORT ROTATING TEAMS OF PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIANS AND NURSES, UM, STUDENTS AS WELL TO OPEN APPOINTMENT SLOTS FOR CARE FOR AT LEAST TWO WEEKS WORTH OF TIME A MONTH, ANY PER CENTER. UM, THESE SPACES COULD ALSO BE USED BY, UM, ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE TARGETED OUTREACH WITH VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, OFFERING SERVICES, SUCH AS HARM REDUCTION, SEX WORKER OUTREACH, UM, AMONG OTHERS, UM, LOCATED AT THESE CENTERS, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE INVESTMENT IN COMMUNITY MEDICAL SUPPLY CLOSETS THAT WOULD OFFER LOW COST MEDICAL SUPPLIES FOR RESIDENTS, UNABLE TO AFFORD FULL-PRICE SUPPLIES. UM, THERE IS A LIST OF SUPPLIES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN THE RECOMMENDATION LANGUAGE. THESE SHOULD BE SLIDING SCALE BETWEEN ZERO TO $15 AN ITEM AND NO ITEM IDENTIFICATION OR RED TAPE SHOULD BE, UM, SET IN MOTION IF PEOPLE NEED THOSE SUPPLIES. YES, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS FOOD ACCESS AND, UM, OR LACK THEREOF. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A FREE FOOD PANTRY AND COMMUNITY FARMS AND COMMERCIAL KITCHENS TO BE CO LOCATED AT THE CENTERS. UM, WE ASK THAT THE CITY BUILD PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL, UM, PRODUCE, I'M SORRY. WE HAVE THE LANGUAGE IN HERE, UM, WITH LOCAL GROWERS AND WHOLESALERS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FRESH FOOD AND PRODUCE, UM, AND THE COMMERCIAL KITCHENS SHOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR LOW COST TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO START SMALL BUSINESSES AND, OR, UM, ALSO BE USED AS EMERGENCY IN EMERGENCY PLANS FROM THE CITY TO HAVE CONTRACTS WITH RESTAURANTS OR OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES TO PROVIDE HOT MEALS. IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY. WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED THE LACK OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AVAILABLE TO PREDOMINANTLY MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS, SUCH AS PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, QUEER AND TRANS FOLKS, BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE ARE IMMIGRANT AND UNDOCUMENTED COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR NON-ENGLISH SPEAKERS. SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THE HIRING OF 50 CLINICIANS THAT WOULD BE PLACED AROUND THESE COMMUNITY CENTERS AND OFFER FREE TELE-HEALTH AND IN-PERSON OFFICE VISITS. WE'RE ALSO CALLING FOR THE CITY TO BUILD AT LEAST THREE NEW COMMUNITY SOLAR FACILITIES WITH THE INTENTION OF PLUGGING THESE COMMUNITIES INTO RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES AND REDUCE UTILITY COSTS AND INCREASE RELIANCE [00:50:01] ON RENEWABLE ENERGY. WE ALSO, AS A WORK GROUP HAVE IDENTIFIED THE AVAILABILITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS. HOW CAN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR PEOPLE EVEN BEGIN TO CONSIDER OTHER PUBLIC HEALTH INITIATIVES? WHEN WE HAVE SUCH A LARGE POPULATION CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, WE MUST PRIORITIZE GETTING PEOPLE INTO HOUSING FIRST. AND THEN ONCE THAT STABLE ENVIRONMENT AND TRANSITION HAS BEEN SUPPORTED, THEN ADDITIONAL SERVICES CAN BE PROVIDED, UM, TO SUPPORT NEEDS AND ENSURE HOUSING CAN BE LONG LASTING. UM, MOVING FORWARD, WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND PROMISES TO GET PEOPLE OFF OF WAIT LISTS. TRANSITIONAL HOUSING IS NO LONGER TRANSITIONAL WHEN THERE ARE STRUCTURES, WHEN THERE ARE NO STRUCTURES READY TO ACTUALLY PERMANENTLY HOUSE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, THE CITY NEEDS PERMANENT HOUSING THAT IS LOW COST AND PRIORITIZE TO BE GIVEN TO PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY HOMELESS. AND I'VE BEEN PUT ON WAIT LISTS FOR UPWARDS TO FOUR YEARS. UM, WE ARE CALLING ON THE CITY TO BUILD NEW BUILDINGS TO HOUSE PEOPLE WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORK DIRECTLY WITH PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, TO COORDINATE ENTRY INTO HOUSING, PROVIDE WRAPAROUND SERVICES WITH CASE MANAGERS AND TRAUMA INFORMED TEAMS. THERE'S SOME MORE LANGUAGE IN THE DOCUMENT ABOUT SPECIFIC PROCEDURES. UM, WE'RE ALSO CALLING FOR, UH, THE EQUITY OFFICE, UM, UH, OR THE CITY TO SUPPORT THE EQUITY OFFICE IN APPOINTING A RENT GUIDELINES BOARD THAT WOULD INCLUDE SEVERE SEVERAL DIRECTLY IMPACTED COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO DEVELOP HOUSING MARKET INFORMED SEALING RATES BASED ON SIZE AND STYLE OF HOUSING AND TO INTRODUCE RENT CONTROL, WHICH IS ALSO OUTLINED IN OUR DOCUMENT. AND, UM, WE'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING FOR THE PROMOTION OF YOUTH DEVELOPMENT THROUGH A FRAMEWORK CALLED POSITIVE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, EFFECT HAVE EFFECTIVE PROGRAMS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN A YOUNG PERSON'S COMMUNITY AND USE COMPREHENSIVE APPROACHES THAT CENTER ON SIGNIFICANT AREAS IN YOUTH LIFE, SUCH AS EDUCATION, ART AND LEADERSHIP. UM, THIS WOULD ENCAPSULATE INCREASING FUNDING FOR COMMUNITY-BASED PROGRAMS FOCUSED ON POSITIVE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, ENSURING UNIVERSAL PRESCHOOL EDUCATION AND TAKING POLICE OUT OF SCHOOLS. UM, SORRY TO MORRILL. UM, THE NEXT ONE IS MAKING CAP METRO FREE FOR LOW INCOME RESIDENTS AND EXPANDING PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FOR HEALTHCARE ACCESS. UH, ONE WOULD BE TO EXPAND METRO ACCESS, UM, AND THE CITY SHOULD BUY ADDITIONAL BUSES FOR METRO ACCESS, HIRE BUSES, HIRE DRIVERS, AND AIM TO ELIMINATE THAT METRO ACCESS WAITLIST. SECOND OF ALL, ANY MAP MEDICARE, MEDICAID TANF BENEFIT RECIPIENTS SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY RECEIVE FREE MONTHLY BUS PASSES UPON ENROLLMENT IN ANY CURRENT ENROLLEES SHOULD GET THAT MAIL TO THEM EVERY MONTH. UM, WE ALSO URGE THE CITY TO WORK WITH TRAVIS COUNTY TO DEVELOP A LOCAL MEDICAID EXPANSION PROGRAM, EXPAND COVERAGE OF THE MAP PROGRAM AND INCLUDE MAP USERS AND POTENTIAL USERS IN THAT PROCESS OF DECIDING WHAT WOULD BE COVERED. UM, I WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK ALL THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT CAME ON SATURDAY AND SHARED AND SPOKE. UM, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, ELI. WE ARE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS, NOT ONLY FOR THESE TWO WORKING GROUPS, BUT HOPEFULLY TASKFORCE MEMBERS WERE ABLE TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS, UM, FILL OUT THE TEMPLATES. WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, GET A SENSE, UH, SO THAT IN THE NEXT SESSION, AFTER OUR BREAK, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TO VOTE. SO FOR THE NEXT, ROUGHLY 10 TO 15 MINUTES, WE'LL SEE HOW MANY QUESTIONS THERE ARE. WE'RE GOING TO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS ONLY. UM, THIS IS INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD TO VOTE, CHRIS. UM, UM, JUST ONE, [00:55:01] JUST INCREDIBLE GRATITUDE TO, UH, TO EVERYBODY THAT WORKED ON BOTH OF THESE. AND, UM, MY APOLOGIES AS EVEN AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT GROUP, I WASN'T ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FINAL ROUND. AND SO I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR, FOR OUR GROUP, UM, IN PARTICULAR, UH, AS IT RELATED TO THE RENT CONTROL QUESTION, UH, AND TO, UH, AND, UM, ABOUT THE, THE BUS PASSES. UM, I WANT TO, CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY KIND OF WHAT, UM, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WAS AROUND RENT CONTROL AND THEN, AND THEN I GUESS, UM, AS, AS FAR AS THE, THE FREE BUS PASSES, UM, WAS THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT YOU MENTIONED, UH, W WAS, WAS THAT SORT OF THE CRITERIA FOR LOW INCOME? WE DIDN'T ENVISION ANY SORT OF OTHER ADDITIONAL, UM, PEOPLE BEING INCLUDED IN THAT. CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY ON BOTH ROADS? SO, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO MAKE AMENDMENTS ON THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR LOW INCOME AS A WORKING GROUP. WE IDENTIFIED JUST OBVIOUSLY THAT MAP RECIPIENTS SHOULD JUST EASILY BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAD DECIDED ON IMPLEMENTING, BUT I BELIEVE THAT I THINK WE'D ALL BE HAPPY JUST TO MAKE IT FREE, LIKE FOR EVERYONE. UM, SO HAPPY TO DISCUSS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UM, FOR RENT CONTROL, WE MODELED A LOT AFTER WHAT NEW YORK DOES, SO I CAN KIND OF GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON WHAT IS IN THE DOCUMENT. UM, WE DISCUSSED HAVING, UM, THE APPOINTMENT OF A BOARD THAT WOULD DETERMINED CEILING RATES BASED ON THE SIZE OF STYLE AND HOUSING. SO WHEN A TENANT LEAVES, THE LANDLORD CAN ONLY RAISE THE RENT THAT SET LIMITS, UM, AND THEN EACH SUBSEQUENT YEAR AFTER THAT, UM, THE LIMIT OR THE RENT AMOUNT CAN ONLY BE INCREASED BY AN AMOUNT BETWEEN ZERO AND 4.5% ANNUALLY, WHICH WOULD BE DETERMINED THAT RATE WOULD BE DETERMINED THROUGH A VOTE ON THE RENT GUIDELINES BOARD. UM, WE ALSO HAVE A PROVISION IN THERE THAT IF A RESIDENT HAS BEEN LIVING IN, IT'S GONE, UM, IF A RESIDENT HAS BEEN LIVING IN THEIR DWELLING AND RENTING CONSISTENTLY SINCE 1980, THE RENT SHOULD NOT EXCEED A MAXIMUM BASE RENT, UM, WHICH WOULD BE DETERMINED BY THE RENT GUIDELINES BOARD, BUT COULD ALSO BE APPEALED BY RESIDENTS IF NEED BE THAT WOULD ONLY COVER THE LANDLORD'S COSTS FOR UPKEEP OF THE UNIT AND RENT WOULD THEN ADDITIONALLY ONLY INCREASE INCREMENTALLY BASED ON THE ANNUAL PERCENTAGE SET BY THE RENT GUIDELINES REVIEW BOARD. OKAY, GREAT. UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK OBVIOUSLY I'M 100% IN SUPPORT AND I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT. UM, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS RENT CONTROL IS ILLEGAL AT THE STATE LEVEL. UM, BUT, UM, I, I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD PRECLUDE US FROM MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION. UM, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU OUTLINING THE DETAILS ON THAT, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE BUS THING. YEAH. I MEAN, MY ONLY THING IS JUST LIKE NO RED, SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU JUST, CAN YOU, CAN YOU REALLY KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO JUST CLARIFYING QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE'RE PRESSED FOR TIME? SURE. YEAH. I'LL JUST SAY I, UM, I, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THAT SOUNDS FINE. I ALSO FAVOR MAKING THE BUSES TOTALLY FREE, BUT THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. I SEE HALEY'S HAND. HI. UH, THIS IS HALEY EASILY. UH, SHE, HER FROM ARCHIE, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, UH, YOU WERE MENTIONING MAPS, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE MEDICAL ACCESS PROGRAM FROM CENTRAL HEALTH, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. UM, SO ARE, IS EVERYONE, SO I WANT TO JUST MENTION THAT I LOVE ALL OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK THEY'RE ALL PERFECT AND GREAT. UM, ARE WE AWARE THAT THAT IS LIKE, UH, UH, THE JURISDICTION OF LIKE CENTRAL HEALTH RATHER THAN THE CITY OF HEALTH OR CITY OF AUSTIN? YES. SO THE REC THE LANGUAGE IN OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO URGE THE CITY TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT EXPANDING IT, UM, MAP USERS AND POTENTIAL USERS IN THAT CONVERSATION. OKAY. AND [01:00:01] IS THERE ANY OTHER LANGUAGE ABOUT WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO CHANGE THOSE LAWS OR I GUESS QUALIFICATIONS? THAT IS THE EXTENT WE DID TALK. WE DID REFER TO TALKING TO THE COUNTY OR, UM, COORDINATING WITH THE COUNTY IN THE CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE, UM, COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS. OKAY. OKAY, COOL. THANK YOU. YEAH, OF COURSE. THANK YOU. OH, ANY, AND THIS, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THESE ARE, THIS IS THE TIME FOR US TO ASK QUESTIONS OF ANY OF THE WORKING GROUPS. SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU HEARD LAST WEEK, THAT YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO, UM, GET IN LAST WEEK NOW IS THE TIME TO ASK THOSE KATE, HI, THANK YOU, KATE. GRAZIANI SHE? HER HERS, UM, THE TEXAS HARM REDUCTION ALLIANCE. I WANTED TO ASK IF THE BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK GROUP SUBMITTED RECOMMENDATIONS UM, THE BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK GROUP, UH, DOES NOT HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS AT THIS TIME. WE'RE STILL WORKING TO FINALIZE THEM, BUT WE WILL PROVIDE A WRITTEN REPORT WHEN WE CONCLUDE OUR SURVEYS OF OUR BUSINESS SURVEYS AND OTHER RESEARCH THAT WE'RE DOING. AMANDA, DID I SEE YOUR HAND UP? I THINK KATE READ MY MIND. SO THANK YOU, ELISIA. YEAH, JUST, UH, AUSTIN, THEN JUST A CLARIFICATION ON, ON THAT. I THINK THAT THE, THE VOTE TODAY IS SUPPOSED TO BE RIGHT ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ALL HAD ACCESS TO. RIGHT. WE ALL WORKED SUPER HARD, UH, TO, TO PROVIDE THIS RECOMMENDATIONS AND IT'S A TIMELY MANNER AS POSSIBLE THEN, UM, I DON'T SEE HOW WE COULD BE ASKED THEN TO, TO VOTE OR INCLUDE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, EVEN IN THE COUNCIL PRESENTATION AS PART OF THE TASK FORCE, WHEN WE OURSELVES HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THEM OR DISCUSS THEM, LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM, FROM OTHER FOLKS AS WELL HERE AS HOW WE COULD MOVE AS, AS TO HOW WE COULD MOVE WITH THAT. AND CHRIS JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM YOU, YOUR HAND WAS UP FROM BEFORE. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY, GREAT. UM, AND I SEE HAILEY ECHOING ALICIA'S QUESTION, AND THERE IS SOME COMMENTARY IN THE CHAT ABOUT ALL RECOMMENDATIONS BEING SENT FORWARD TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE COUNCIL BODY NUTRIA. SORRY. I BELIEVE I SENT THAT OUT AS I WAS READING, UH, SEPARATE TO THIS QUESTION COMING UP. I WOULD, UM, WITH DUE RESPECT, SAY THAT ALL RECOMMENDATION SHOULD COME TO THIS TASK FORCE AS A BODY BEFORE THEY MOVE FORWARD. RIGHT. I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE, UM, HAD AGREED ON. AND WE ALSO SAID IF PEOPLE DID NOT HAVE TIME, THEN WE COULD PERHAPS TAKE THEM UP AT A LATER DATE, BUT I DO THINK IT IS DIFFICULT TO MOVE A, AN OFFICIAL TASK FORCE, SOMETHING THAT COMES FROM THE TASK FORCE THAT HAS NOT BEEN SEEN OR VOTED ON BY THE TASK FORCE. SO IF IT IS NOT READY, I THINK WE HAVE SAID THAT THAT IS OKAY. AND THAT WE SHOULD PERHAPS, UM, AT A SEPARATE MEETING, THINK ABOUT HOW TO INCORPORATE, UM, THAT WORK SO THAT THE BODY CAN VOTE ON IT WOULD BE MY INITIAL THOUGHT. THANK YOU. NIDIA DON. AND IF YOU COULD, I THINK I ADJUSTED MY MIC IN A WAY THAT MIGHT HELP. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? NO, TOO LOUD. SORRY. UM, WHEN YOU SWITCHED BACK FROM TEAMS AND ZOOM, SOMETIMES IT MESSES UP YOUR SETTING. SO MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT. SO, UM, I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD CONSIDER PERHAPS OF THE, UH, WORK GROUP WORK THAT IS COMPLETE AND HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD. UH, DOES IT ALL HAVE TO MOVE AND IN ONE BUNCH, OR CAN IT GO IN PHASES? LIKE WHATEVER'S COMPLETE AND READY AND WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT [01:05:02] AND CONSIDER, COULD WE MOVE THAT FORWARD? AND THEN WHAT STILL BEING WORKED ON, THEN WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT AND WHEN IT'S READY, THEN WE MOVE THAT FORWARD VERSUS HOLDING IT ALL UP. I WANT TO INVITE OUR CO-CHAIRS TO MAYBE SPEAK ON THIS, UM, IN TERMS OF PROCESS, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, FUTURE WORK. SO MY, MY UNDERSTANDING FOR TODAY, UM, IS THAT WE HAD OUR DEADLINE FOR NOON TODAY FOR THE FINAL, UH, WORK GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO BE COMPLETED SO THAT WE COULD, UH, VOTE ON THEM COLLECTIVELY AS A TASK FORCE. AND SO THAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ACTUALLY REPRESENT, UH, THE WILL AND THE BODY OF THE TASK FORCE, I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT. UM, I WISHED THAT WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A NOTICE AS CHAIRS AHEAD OF TIME THAT THE BUSINESS WORK GROUP, UH, WAS HAVING SOME CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF, UH, MEETING THE DEADLINES. SO THIS IS THE FIRST THAT I'M HEARING OF THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT, BUT I'LL ALSO, UH, INVITE, UH, CO-CHAIR, UH, FOLLOW ROJAS TO, TO, TO GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS AS WELL. OKAY. YEAH. YES. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I DON'T WANT TO GO ON, BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BRIAN. I THINK WE, WE, WE MADE DEADLINES AND WE F BECAUSE WE WANT TO PRESENT AS A TASK FORCE ON TUESDAY, APRIL 20TH, TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, NOT AS INDIVIDUAL WORKING GROUPS. SO THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT IS TO GATHER ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND TOGETHER MAKE SOME DECISIONS. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK I SAW YOUR, UM, CHAT FAIR, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE VOTING IS LIKE, WE WANT TO RATIFY TOGETHER A PACKAGE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE REPRESENT THIS WHOLE TASK FORCE FOR NEXT WEEK. SO, UH, SO I THINK THAT MEANS THAT IF ONE WORKING GROUP HASN'T, UH, CONTRIBUTED TO THAT, THEN IT WON'T BE PART OF OUR FULL, UH, TASKFORCE RECOMMENDATION PACKAGE. JUST WANT TO NOTE THE TIME. UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ABOUT FIVE TO SIX MORE MINUTES ON QUESTIONS, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. AND THEN MY PROPOSAL HAD BEEN TO GO THROUGH EACH WORKING GROUP IN THE NEXT SEGMENT AND, UM, VOTE UP OR DOWN, UM, ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AS A GROUP THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY PROPOSAL TO ALL OF YOU FOLLOW YOU'RE MUTED. OH, SORRY. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ALICIA, YOUR HAND IS UP FOR A CLARIFYING QUESTION ON ONE OF THE WORK GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS. YES. BUT PRIOR TO THAT, A CLARIFYING QUESTION ON THE PROCESS ITSELF, I AM WONDERING, UM, YOU, UM, YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT RIGHT NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OR MAKE AMENDMENTS BRING UP QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE NOW WE'LL MAKE AMENDMENTS IN THE NEXT SECTION. GOT IT. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY WE'LL GO THROUGH TA UH, WORKING GROUP BY WORKING GROUP IN THE NEXT SEGMENT. SO IF THERE AREN'T ANY MORE CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, WE'LL JUST DO ONE LAST WEEK. EXCELLENT. WE'LL GO INTO OUR 10 MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK. WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION AND VOTE ON WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS. I'LL PUT THE ORDER OF THE TASK FORCES INTO THE CHAT SO THAT FOLKS KNOW WHAT ORDER WE'RE GOING IN. SO WE'LL RETURN AT, UH, SIX 56 CENTRAL TIME. THANKS EVERYONE. [01:20:06] OUR [01:20:07] TASK [01:20:07] FORCE MEMBERS TO RETURN FROM OUR 10 MINUTE BREAK. THE PROCESS WILL BE, UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL WORKING GROUP. UM, THERE WILL BE TIME TO MAKE ANY SUGGESTED AMENDMENTS AND THEN VOTE. UM, SO THAT WILL BE THE EXTENT OF THE DISCUSSION AND VOTE, UM, ON EACH WORKING GROUP AND COLE. I SEE YOUR HAND. YEAH. UM, IT OCCURRED TO ME DURING THE BREAK THAT I WASN'T ENTIRELY CLEAR WHAT I MEANT. SO THE BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK GROUP IS NOT GOING TO BE MAKING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO PUT FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON OUR WORK GROUP REPORT. SO I, I THINK I DIDN'T QUITE CLEARLY COMMUNICATE THAT. SO I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE CONVERSATION THAT CAME AFTERWARDS, BUT I THINK THAT'S ON ME FOR NOT COMMUNICATING THAT CLEARLY. SO I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT THE REPORT IS? UM, JUST RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE AND, UM, KIND OF A COMPOSITION OF THE SURVEYS THAT WE'RE DOING JUST BROADLY, HOW PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACTS BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT REPORT WILL BE COMPLETE. UM, I'M NOT SURE ON AN EXACT DATE, BUT, UM, IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE TASK FORCE. I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT THAT PROCEDURE. I DIDN'T, I, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE, THE WORK GROUP THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS WORKING ON A REPORT, BUT AS FAR AS PRESENTING IT TO COUNCIL, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WAS GOING TO GO. OKAY. SO THE FIRST GROUP, UM, FOR DISCUSSION IS THE BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKING GROUP. THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO PUT FORTH. YES. SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION NEEDED ON THIS WORKING GROUP? OKAY. VERY WELL. WE'LL MOVE INTO, OH, LET'S SEE A COMMENT. OKAY. OKAY. SO THE, UM, MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WORKING GROUP HAS ASKED IF, UH, WE CAN SKIP THEM AND MOVE TO THE NEXT GROUP, WHICH WOULD BE THE EQUITY RE-INVESTMENT WORKING GROUP. UM, AND I BELIEVE THE PRESENTER OR PERSON FOR THAT WOULD BE PAULA. UM, SO PAULA, ARE YOU PREPARED TO FEEL ANY, UM, AMENDMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS? YES, I PRESENTED IT TWICE. SO I THINK YOU ALL, I HOPE ARE FAMILIAR WITH OUR PROPOSAL. GREAT. ANY DISCUSSION NEEDED OR SUGGESTIONS, ANY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE EQUITY RE-INVESTMENT WORKING GROUP'S RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. UM, AND I JUST WANT TO CHECK IN, BECAUSE I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, RESPECT Y'ALL'S PROCESS HAVING COME IN LATE IN THIS AND NOT BEING IN AUSTIN WITH Y'ALL, UM, WANTED TO DOUBLE-CHECK AND ASK, DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH EACH GROUP AND THEN DO THE VOTING AFTER? OKAY. SO LET'S MOVE INTO THE PATROL AND SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUP. PAULA. I JUST HAD A THOUGHT THAT FOR THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING US COMMUNITY MEMBERS, MAYBE WE CAN JUST GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION, UM, THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROPOSALS OF ALL OF OUR WORKING GROUPS THAT WE PRESENTED AT OUR LAST MEETING. AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN READING THEM, I THINK WE DO HAVE, DO WE HAVE A WAY TO SHARE THEM RIGHT NOW ON THE WEBSITE OR THROUGH FACEBOOK, OR, YOU KNOW, DIRECTING PEOPLE TO THEM SO THAT THIS CONVERSATION MAKES SENSE TO OTHERS? IS THERE SOMEONE WHO COULD PUT THE LINK IN THE CHAT AND COMMENT IN THE FACEBOOK [01:25:01] LIVE? I THINK I NEED CLARITY. I'M SORRY. THIS IS ALYSIA. UM, WITH CPIO IT'S SO CLARITY. WHAT LINK TO THE, TO THE DOCUMENT, TO THE FOLDER WHERE ALL OF THE INDIVIDUAL DOCUMENTS LIVE, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LINKS TO THE DRAFT? THE DRAFT RECOMMENDATIONS ARE POSTED ON THE RPS WEBSITE, SO THOSE ARE ALL THERE. SO THERE'S A FRAME OF REFERENCE FOR FOLKS. SO SOMEONE JUST DROPPED THE LINK TO THE WEBSITE, INTO THE CHAT. THANK YOU, FARAH. SO THOSE ARE ALL THERE. SO FOLKS CAN VISIT THAT THERE, AND YES, WE CAN DROP THAT INTO THE FACEBOOK CHAT. UM, I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THOUGH, UH, DROPPING THE LINK TO THE GOOGLE FOLDER THERE WHERE YOUR, WHERE YOUR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS ARE LIVING RIGHT NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ALICIA, AND I'M SORRY TO HAVE INTERRUPTED WITH THIS. I JUST WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW OTHERS MIGHT BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG. SO, UH, THAT SOUNDS GREAT. HERE'S THE LINK IN THE CHAT AND SOMEONE WILL PUT IT ON THE FACEBOOK. IT'S OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATION WAS OUR, OUR DRAFT OF LAST WEEK THAT HAVE HAD SOME ADDITIONS. UM, BUT AT LEAST IT CAN HELP PEOPLE HAVE A WAY TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH US. SO THANK YOU. SO THERE IS A REQUEST FROM ONE OF THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS. UM, IF FOLKS COULD HIGHLIGHT ANY CHANGES MADE TO THE DRAFT, FOLLOWING THE COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSION. SO WE DID RECEIVE THAT FROM THE TWO GROUPS THAT PRESENTED TODAY, UM, WHICH IS VIOLENCE, UH, SURVIVORS, UH, SERVICES AND PREVENTION AND PUBLIC HEALTH. SO JUST WANT TO DO ONE SWEEP ON YOUR TA ON YOUR WORKING GROUP BOLA. WERE THERE ANY CHANGES? NO, WE, WE, IF YOU ARE, REMEMBER WE HAVE TWO, UM, ALLOCATIONS OF FUNDING. ONE IS FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AND IT'S 11 MILLION AND THEN NEXT FISCAL YEAR, IT'S UP TO 40 MILLION OR SO I THINK WE JUST ZEROED IN ON THIS FISCAL YEAR THAT WE WANT ALL OF THE MONEY TO GO TO DIRECT CASH ASSISTANCE TO FAMILIES OR RENTAL ASSISTANCE ONLY FOR, FOR THIS TIME. I THINK THAT WE MIGHT HAVE KIND OF, UM, BEEN MORE EXPLICIT ABOUT WHAT THIS FISCAL YEAR THE EQUITY REINVESTMENT IS GOING TO. THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY SLIGHT CHANGE. AND THEN I WOULD ASK A QUESTION OF OTHER WORKING GROUPS. IT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT OF ALL YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. AND WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THEM, SOME OF THEM DIDN'T HAVE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNTS. SO WHEN YOU SPEAK TO IT, IF IT'S EASY, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU. SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL ASK, UM, ELISIA, ARE YOU READY OR WOULD YOU LIKE US TO MOVE TO ANOTHER GROUP? OKAY. I'M GOING TO GUESS. ALICIA IS STILL HAVING TECHNICAL CHALLENGES HERE. OH, GREAT. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. UM, SO YEAH, UM, I, I DO HAVE ANOTHER MEMBER, UM, OF THE REIMAGINED PUBLIC, UH, MEANINGFUL REMIT, MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WORK GROUP, UM, MEMBER ON THE TASK FORCE. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO MAYBE JUST CLARIFY QUESTIONS. DO YOU WANT US TO UPLIFT IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY CHANGES AND WELL, AND JUST NAMED THOSE AND NOT NECESSARILY GO OVER ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS, RIGHT. IF THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED, JUST CHANGES. SO I CAN GO AHEAD AND, AND DO THAT FROM, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, PLEASE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MONICA, WHO WAS THE OTHER MEMBER OF THE, OF THE WORK GROUP, IF I MISS ANYTHING OR, UH, PLEASE DO FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN. UM, BUT ON OUR END, UH, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE WE GUESS, UM, FOR, UM, FROM OUR END, UM, AS I JUST WANT TO, UM, RECENTER FOLKS AND THAT THE AIM OF, UH, OUR WORK GROUP REALLY FOCUSED ON MAKING, UM, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS A LOT MORE ACCESSIBLE, BECAUSE IT IS PROBABLY THE ONLY TOOL THAT IS ACCESSIBLE TO FOLKS THAT ARE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED, RIGHT? IT IS ONLY MEDIUM, UM, OUTSIDE SOME TIMES OF NORMAL WORK HOURS THAT WE ARE GIVEN TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD WITHIN THE SYSTEM. OF COURSE, RIGHT. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS OF, OF, OF US UPLIFTING OUR, OUR VOICE IN DEMANDS. UM, AND WITH THAT SAID, I BELIEVE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE THAT WE ADDED, UM, FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION THAT WE GAVE LAST WEEK WAS THAT WE PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT. THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR AN IMMEDIATE ALLOCATION OF $5 MILLION. UM, THAT MEANS WITHIN THIS BUDGET, [01:30:01] UM, MID-YEAR BUDGET CYCLE, UM, TO BE PUT, UM, AND LET ME JUST GET TO, TO BE PUT, UM, DIRECTLY IN MONICA, THIS COULD PROBABLY REEL OFF THE, YOUR, YOUR TONGUE. I CAN HANDLE IT. MONICA GUZMAN GABA, SHE, HER HERS ARE MAJOR CHANGE IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, IMMEDIATE INVESTMENT OF $5 MILLION IN THE BUDGET FOR THE, SORRY, I NEED TO SLOW DOWN THE COMMUNICATION AND PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE BUDGET TO COVER TRANSLATION AND INTERPRETATION SERVICES. SO PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, ACROSS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, BUT ALSO EVERY, EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT MUST INCLUDE A BASE BUDGET LINE ITEM FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, LEXICAL FUNDS TO PAY PARTNERS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS FOR TRANSLATION AND INTERPRETATION SERVICES, CHILDCARE, VENUE, SUPPORT, REMOTE ACCESS, SUPPORT, REQUEST, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE FACILITATION FOR COMMUNITY PERSONS WHO CAN PROVIDE, EXCUSE ME, SUPPORT OR PROVIDE ANYTHING. I JUST LISTED STIPEND FOR RESIDENTS WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE TO ALSO SUPPORT THAT THAT'S NOT A FINITE LIST. THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT. THAT'S JUST WHAT WE PUT IN THERE. ALL DEPARTMENTS MUST ENGAGE COMMUNITY PARTNERS, ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE ALREADY ENGAGED WITH AND CENTER RESIDENTS, AND ALSO INVEST $250,000 ANNUALLY TO THE BASE BUDGET FOR THE EQUITY OFFICE FOR TWO NEW STAFF MEMBERS THAT CARLA, EXCUSE ME, COVERS SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR TWO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU, MONICA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY, NOT QUESTIONS. ANYTHING, ANY SUGGESTIONS OR AMENDMENTS FOR THE MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WORKING GROUP? GREAT. UM, I'M GOING TO INVITE GENTLY LOVINGLY, UM, OUR TASK FORCE MEMBERS WHO ARE ABLE TO PLEASE COME BACK ON CAMERA SINCE THE BREAK. UM, IT JUST MAKES IT A LOT EASIER FOR ME TO IDENTIFY THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT AS YOUR FACILITATOR. UM, WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE INTO THE PATROL AND SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUP. CAN I ASK THE TASK FORCE MEMBER WHO IS, UM, HEADING THAT UP TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES? JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE READY TO RECEIVE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR AMENDMENTS I THINK THAT WOULD BE DAVID JOHNSON AND I THINK IT MIGHT'VE GOTTEN BUMPED FROM THE MEETING, UM, BECAUSE DAVID IS ALSO THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE UPWARD UPROOTING PUNITIVE AND HARM CULTURE IN INTERSECTING SYSTEMS. OKAY. SO WE'LL MOVE INTO, UH, UH, SORRY. WE SKIPPED PATROL AND SURVEILLANCE AND THAT'S UM, NOT KATHY, IS THAT KATHY NOW? KATHY IS RE-IMAGINING NINE 11. THAT WAS DAVID DAVID. OKAY. SO THEN PATROL AND SURVEILLANCE IS DAVID AND POLICE STAFFING PATROL AND CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS? NO, NO, NO, I'M SORRY. THIS JUST SAYS MORE, UM, PATROLLING SURVEILLANCE SHOULD BE KATHY. AND THEN, UM, SO, SO WE HAD TWO PATROL GROUPS AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER. DAVID JOHNSON HAD A PATROL GROUP AND THEN KATHY HAD A PATROL GROUP. RIGHT. SO THERE'S THE POLICE STAFFING PATROLLING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS. AND THEN THERE'S THE ONE THAT'S SPECIFICALLY ON SURVEILLANCE. SO WE'RE MISSING BOTH CATHY AND DAVID. YEAH. AND I DON'T, I'M DON'T MIND SPEAKING FOR THE PATROL GROUP BECAUSE, SORRY. UM, THE PATROL AND INVESTIGATIONS GROUP, UM, BECAUSE WE DID ADD ONE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT I ACTUALLY JUST REALIZED WASN'T ON HERE. SO I JUST PUT IT ON. UM, AND BASICALLY IT IS THAT AUSTIN [01:35:01] SHOULD IMPLEMENT A COMMUNITY RUN DIVERSION PROGRAM. THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE POLICE ALTERNATIVES DIVISION INITIATIVE, WHICH IS IN OUT OF ATLANTA. AND BASICALLY THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IS THAT IF THERE IS ANY SORT OF, UM, ALLEGED CRIME THAT SPECIFICALLY STEMS FROM SUBSTANCE USE FROM POVERTY, UM, OR FROM MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT, UM, THE POLICE WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO CALL OUT FOLKS FROM THE POLICING ALTERNATIVES DIVISION INITIATIVE OR A SIMILAR PROGRAM TO PROVIDE VOLUNTARY SERVICES. SO PEOPLE COULD DECIDE IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN RECEIVING SERVICES AND IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY. AND IT WOULD BE A PRE-ARREST DIVERSION, DIFFERENT FROM THE CURRENT KINDS OF PRETRIAL DIVERSION THAT REQUIRES SOMEBODY TO BE ARRESTED AND ALREADY INVOLVED IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. SO IT TAKES, UM, IT ALLOWS FOLKS TO INTERFACE WITH SERVICES INSTEAD OF ARREST. AND SO THAT WAS OUR SIX RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ADDED. THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. THANK YOU. UM, ARE YOU ABLE TO, UH, GIVE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT TOTAL FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS BOTTLED? I REQUESTED, NO, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND I BELIEVE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON AND WHEN WE PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL. GREAT. THANK YOU, JESSICA. OKAY. THEN MOVING TO, UM, PUBLIC HEALTH RE-INVESTMENT AND WILL THAT BE KATE OR KATE? YOU'RE THE TASK FORCE MEMBER ON THAT, RIGHT? YES. HI, I'M AVAILABLE. UM, I MEAN, ELI DID A GREAT JOB OF PRESENTING EARLIER, BUT IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I THINK EITHER OF US CAN ANSWER THEM RIGHT NOW. UM, WE'RE JUST INVITING ANY PROPOSED AMENDMENTS OR SUGGESTED CHANGES. UH, YOU'VE ALREADY HIGHLIGHTED CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE LAST WEEK. AND THEN BIOLA HAS ADDED THE QUESTION OF, DO YOU HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT? WE DID HEAR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DOLLAR AMOUNTS FROM ELI'S PRESENTATION. UM, DO YOU HAVE A GLOBAL NUMBER? I BELIEVE IT'S AT 130 MILLION. THANK YOU. ANY SUGGESTIONS OR REQUESTED AMENDMENTS FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS? JUST READING THE CHAT. YES. LISA, YOU CAN. UM, YEAH, PARTICULARLY IN THIS ONE, I REALLY WANTED TO JUST, UM, UPLIFT HALF HOLISTIC. IT WAS, I THINK THAT THIS WAS JUST SEEING THE RECOMMENDATIONS COME TO FRUITION AND REALLY HOPING THAT WHEN WE ARE PRESENTING TO COUNCIL, UM, THEY ARE VIEWING IT FROM THAT LENS, RIGHT. THAT THIS WAS REALLY, UM, A LOT OF HARD WORK FROM FOLKS IN THAT WORKING GROUP THAT WORK IN DIFFERENT FIELDS WITH DIRECTLY IMPACTED FOLKS ON, ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT FRONTS AND HOW HOLISTIC IT WAS. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY CAN SAY THAT, UM, AS PART OF A COMMUNITY THAT, UM, THAT WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO TRADITIONAL HEALTH CARE AND WE HAVE, UH, GET A LOT OF RED TAPE, RIGHT. THAT'D BEEN DONE DOCUMENT COMMUNITY. I WAS APPRECIATIVE OF HOW, UM, HOLISTIC, UM, ALL OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PUBLIC HEALTH WORK GROUP OR, OR WERE THOUGHT OF AND INCORPORATED. SO, UM, YEAH, LOTS OF LOVE FOR, UM, THE PUBLIC HEALTH WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDATIONS. SO WITH THAT, UM, AFTER PUBLIC HEALTH IS RE-IMAGINING NINE ONE, ONE, IS THERE SOMEONE FROM THAT WORKING GROUP WHO IS AVAILABLE TO FIELD, UH, SUGGESTIONS, AMENDMENTS, AND TO PROVIDE, UH, ANY UPDATES AND DOLLAR AMOUNTS OH, I SEE YOU, KATHY. ARE YOU NOT ON THE, UH, SURE. OKAY. [01:40:03] WE CAN'T HEAR YOU IF YOU'RE SPEAKING. OKAY. YOU'RE JUST MUTED. OH, THERE WE GO. AND MONICA, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT I MISSED THE LAST NINE ONE, ONE, THE MORE GROUP DISCUSSION AROUND THE FINALIZING, THE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I WOULD ASK IF ANOTHER OF OUR WORK GROUP MEMBERS WOULD MIND PRESENTING, I'VE BEEN PRETTY HARD TO NAIL DOWN, LIKE I'VE BEEN UNAVAILABLE FOR A LOT OF THE MEETINGS IN THE LAST 10. YEAH. I DON'T MIND FOLLOWING UP. BASICALLY. WE, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ADDITIONAL, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY ADDITIONS SINCE, UM, THE COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSION AND WE ALSO DON'T HAVE OUR FULL NUMBER YET. SO WE'LL HAVE TO WORK ON THAT. THANK YOU, JESSICA. THAT'S FOR RE-IMAGINING NINE ONE ONE, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. DAVID, I SEE YOU'RE BACK. I'M SORRY. YOU HAD THOSE TECHNICAL CHALLENGES. UM, JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR EITHER OF YOUR, UH, WORKING GROUPS AND BALA. I SEE YOUR HAND UP. YES. I JUST HAD A, A QUESTION OR POSSIBLE AMENDMENT TO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE NINE ONE ONE WORKING GROUP BEFORE YOU MOVED ON FROM THAT ONE, BECAUSE THAT'S OKAY. I'M ON NUMBER EIGHT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THE CITY SHOULD SUPPORT A SECOND PHASE OF RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY THAT ALLOWS FOR TRANSPARENT AND THOUGHTFUL COMMUNITY INPUT AND CREATING A RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY PLAN THAT LEADS TOWARDS EFFECTIVE RESULTS FOR SYSTEMIC CHANGE. UM, FIRST QUESTION I HAD WAS, DID YOU MEAN THE CITY SHOULD SUPPORT A SECOND PHASE OF REIMAGINE PUBLIC SAFETY TASK FORCE? IS THAT WHAT YOU MEANT? SO MY UNDERSTANDING AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, CAUSE I THINK HALEY WAS ON THAT BROUGHT THIS ONE, BUT IT WASN'T. I THINK THAT WE ALL HAVE MENTIONED VARIOUS ISSUES WITH, UM, THIS PROCESS AND WITH THE ABILITY TO GET MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY INPUT AND TO REALLY FULLY REIMAGINE WHAT PUBLIC, WHAT IT MEANS TO BE SAFE, WHAT SAFETY IS, WHAT SAFETY IS FOR EVERYONE. AND SO THIS WAS SPECIFICALLY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE HAS BEEN, THERE'VE BEEN MANY LIMITATIONS TO THIS PROCESS AND THAT THE CITY SHOULD SUPPORT SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE AND IT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE IN THIS FORMAT. UM, AND I THINK HOPING ALSO THAT THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS ROUND TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WORKED AND DIDN'T WORK AND TO CONTINUE ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY ON RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY IN A MORE MEANINGFUL WAY. IS THAT HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, PAULA. YES. HOLD ON. YES, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. I, I JUST HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT W IS IT, IF IT WAS ABOUT EXTENDING OUR WORK AS A TASK FORCE? UM, SO I'LL PAUSE THERE AND LET OTHER SPEAK. AND THEN AS I COLLECT THOUGHTS, NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND ELISIA, IS YOUR HAND UP FROM LAST TIME? NO, IT WAS, IT WAS ALONG THIS AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO FOLLOW THOUGHT PROCESS BECAUSE IT WAS THE SAME QUESTION. UM, I WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY UPLIFT THE SAME CONCERNS, UM, WHICH IS NUMBER EIGHT IN, UM, NUMBER NINE WITHIN THIS WORK GROUP. RIGHT. UM, PAULA JUST BROUGHT UP THE NUMBER EIGHT AND NUMBER NINE, BEING OTHER RECOMMENDATION, THE CITY MUST INVEST IN AN EXTREME COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT TO GUIDE PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVES. UM, WHEN, UM, WHEN I READ THEM, IT WAS READING SORT OF LIKE MORE WORK TO BE DONE, RIGHT. LIKE A SECOND PHASE OF, OF, OF, OF THIS. AND I UNDERSTAND JESSICA NOW THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, UM, IT PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE TO LOOK IN THIS FORMAT. RIGHT. BUT IN, UM, THE WAY THAT I'M, I'M HEARING IT IN WHATEVER FORMAT IT WILL REQUIRE WORK, UM, FROM, UH, FROM, FROM FOLKS, IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE US, IT'S GOING TO BE FOLKS THAT, UH, THAT WE'RE BUILDING WITH, RIGHT. UM, THAT WE'RE IN RELATIONSHIP WITH BECAUSE WE WANT THIS TO BE CENTERED, UM, ON, [01:45:01] UM, AND CENTERING THE, THE, THE, THE LIVED EXPERIENCES OF, OF DIRECTLY IMPACTED FOLKS. AND, AND TO BE HONEST, LIKE THAT'S, UM, TO GET, IT HAS BEEN, I DUNNO, HOW MANY MONTHS IT'S, IT'S A LOT TO ASK, RIGHT. IT'S A LOT TO ASK OF SOMEBODY. UM, AND THEN HAVING JUST GONE THROUGH, THROUGH THE CADET VOTE, UM, I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO MOVE TO, TO MAKE SOME AMENDMENTS TO THAT, LIKE IN WHATEVER ITERATION OF A TASKFORCE MIGHT EXIST IN THE FUTURE, IT NEEDS TO BE ATTACHED TO, UM, TO COMMITMENTS I'M PART OF THE CITY, RIGHT. IN ORDER FOR A SECOND, IF I WANT TO USE THE WORD A SECOND VERSION OF VINNY SORT OF FACE OF A TASK FORCE, THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE, UM, UH, THOUGHT EMOTION, LABOR, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT LABOR. RIGHT. FOR UNDER LIKELY IMPACTED FOLKS HAVE TO COME WITH, UM, AT LEAST RIGHT. IN A GENUINE, UM, COMMITMENT, UM, OF, OF, UH, FROM THE CITY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND SOME, SOME THAT I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WOULD BE, UM, THAT THE CITY MUST COMMIT NOT TO GIVE ANY FUNDING BACK, UM, TO, TO THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT. RIGHT. UM, AND IT MUST NOT FUND A NEW CADET CLASS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE VOTE MOVE FORWARD FOR A NEW CADET CLASS, THERE'S STILL A, ANOTHER VOTE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR ACTUALLY FOR IT TO ACTUALLY BECOME, UM, TANGIBLE, RIGHT. LIKE THEY VOTED TO, TO ALLOW THE PILOT PROGRAM, BUT THERE'S STILL ANOTHER VOTE. AND, AND I THINK A THIRD ONE, UH, I WANT TO SPEAK SLOWER. SO THE FIRST ONE, SO THAT WE CAN GET IT IN SPANISH IS, UM, MONEY MUST NOT BE WHATEVER MONEY HAD BEEN SET UP PART FOR RE-IMAGINING. IT MUST NOT GO BACK INTO THE BUDGET OF THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE THAT, UM, THE CITY MUST COMMIT TO NOT FUND A NEW CADET CLASS. AND I THINK, UH, UM, THE THIRD ONE IS THAT AT MINIMUM, THE CITY MUST COMMIT, UH, TO INVEST THE ENTIRE, UH, $50 MILLION THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PUT IN THE RE-IMAGINING, UM, THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ALLOCATED FOR RE-IMAGINING. UM, IT MUST, UH, COMMIT TO DIRECTLY INVESTED IN A HOLISTIC COMMUNITY SAFETY RECOMMENDATIONS. RIGHT. UM, THAT WILL, THAT CAN BE, THAT CAN COME DIRECTLY FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE PRESENT. RIGHT. SO, UM, I WAS PROBABLY TOO WORDY, BUT I THINK I CAN, I CAN NAME THAT THE ONLY, UH, I WOULD ADD THOSE THREE THINGS, A SECOND PHASE IN ANY FORM ITERATION OF A TASK FORCE CAN ONLY EXIST IF THE CITY COMMITS TO THIS THREE THINGS, BECAUSE THAT TO ME WILL ACTUALLY SIGNIFY. THERE'S A TRUE COMMITMENT ON PART OF THE CITY, NOT JUST TO EXPLOIT MY LABOR, BECAUSE I'M A DIRECTOR IMPACT THE PERSON, THE LABOR OF, OF THE FOLKS THAT, THAT I AM I'M, I'M HERE, I'M SHOWING UP FOR YOUR FOUR, BUT THAT ACTUALLY THEY HAVE A COMMITMENT TO MAKE SOME OF THE VISIONING THAT WE'VE ALL PUT INTO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS HAPPEN. UM, SO I WOULD, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPER PROCESS WOULD BE, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, I WOULD WANT TO MAKE THOSE AMENDMENTS BEFORE VOTING ON, ON THAT. JESSICA I'LL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND IF YOU LIKE BEFORE I CALL ON KATE. SO I, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM KATE BECAUSE KATE IS ONE OF THE CO-CHAIRS. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS RESPONDING DIRECTLY TO THAT. SO I'LL LET HER SPEAK, KATE. I WAS GOING TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT A PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATION, BUT I WILL, I WILL HOLD THAT QUESTION FOR NOW AND JUST SAY THAT I SUPPORT ALL THESE YEARS AMENDMENTS, AND I THINK WE NEED A SERIOUS COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY BEFORE WE CONTINUE TO PUT TIME AND ENERGY INTO THIS REIMAGINING PROCESS. IS IT ABOUT THIS? JUST THAT I, I WOULD SAY I SECOND DID, OH, SECOND. IS THIS AMENDMENT TO NUMBER EIGHT AND NINE OF THE NINE ONE, ONE WORKING GROUP HALEY, AND THEN CHAZ. HI, I'M I CAN'T GET MY COMPUTER WORKING. SO I'M JUST ON MY PHONE RIGHT NOW. UM, I WAS THE ONE WHO RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, THAT I GUESS PROPOSAL. AND IT WAS BECAUSE I JUST, I FELT [01:50:01] THAT THIS WAS SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO BE ABLE TO REALLY ENGAGE EVERYBODY WHO COULD AND WOULD, AND WANTS TO BE ABLE TO BE INVOLVED IN IT. UM, I KNOW IT TAKES A LOT OF BRAVERY THAT SO MANY PEOPLE VERY, VERY CLEARLY SHOWED, UM, THAT NOT EVERYBODY IS ABLE TO CONJURE AND JUST SIX MONTHS, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF THINGS, AND I JUST DIDN'T WANT THIS TO BE SEEN THIS. I DIDN'T WANT THIS PROCESS TO BE LIKE A ONE TIME SPECIAL EVENTS SITUATION. I REALLY WANTED TO SEE THAT WE GIVE AS MUCH THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION TO ALL OF OUR, UM, PUBLIC SAFETY MEETINGS AS WE DID THIS SATURDAY. UM, SO, SO YEAH, I, 100% SUPPORT ALICIA'S, UM, I GUESS ADDITIONS AND, AND YEAH, IT WASN'T REALLY ABOUT GETTING LIKE A SEASON TWO OF THIS SITUATION. IT WAS MORE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE REALLY INVOLVED, UM, MEANING THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK WITH, NOT MYSELF, RIGHT. I MEAN, LIKE 2% MYSELF, MOSTLY EVERYBODY ELSE. RIGHT. SO MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPENSATED THAT THERE'S, THEIR TIME IS VALUED AND THAT ALSO ALL OF US ARE VALUED AND SO THAT WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS THEY AREN'T, UM, OVERLOOKED OR JUST REGARDED, BUT THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY TAKEN SERIOUSLY, WHICH MEANS TO BE, TO ABIDE BY THEM. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY FROM HERE ON OUT, UM, ARE BEING REALLY THOUGHTFULLY, UM, AND MINDFULLY INCLUDED. THANKS. THANK YOU, HAILEY. UM, CHAZ, WELL, THANK YOU, MARCY JASMINE WITH THE AUSTIN JUSTICE COALITION, I GUESS. UM, MY, MY QUESTION TO, TO ALICIA IN EVERYBODY THAT SECOND AMENDMENT, AS I READ THE Y IN NUMBER NINE, UM, I'M WONDERING IF, IF THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT YOU JUST SAID, UM, IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT COMMUNITIES MOST IMPACTED BY SYSTEMS AND IDEOLOGIES OF OPPRESSION ARE ABLE TO OFFER THEIR EXPERTISE. THE CITY MUST COMMIT TO INVESTING IN COMMUNITY LEADERS. THIS MAY INCLUDE FUNDING, EDUCATION AND TRAINING COMPENSATION FOR PARTICIPANTS PARTICIPATION, CHILDCARE, TRANSPORTATION, INTERPRETATION, TRANSLATION SERVICES, UM, AND SOME OTHER STUFF. I'M, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO LIKE, LIKE, LIKE, LIKE, LIKE, WOULD YOU, LIKE MORE THAN, OR I'M JUST, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YEAH. I SEE POLYPS ARE GOING HIT, SO I'LL SHUT UP. CAN I REPLY TO THAT? I THINK IT'S TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES, CHATS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT UP. NUMBER NINE IS MORE ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY. SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE AGAINST THAT AT ALL, THAT THE WHOLE PROCESS BE MORE ACCESSIBLE, SLOWER, ET CETERA. BUT I THINK THE OTHER PIECE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, MAKE TANGIBLE IS THE KIND OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND DECISION-MAKING IN THE PROCESS. SO WE'RE SAYING LET'S NOT CONTINUE SUCH PROCESSES UNLESS WE HAVE, WE SEE A DEMONSTRATED, UM, COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY TO TAKE SERIOUSLY WHAT COMES OUT OF THESE PROCESSES, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT FEELS LIKE WINDOW DRESSING, RIGHT. AND WE'RE KIND OF, MAYBE WE'RE SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF WINDOW DRESSING. UM, SO YOU CAN MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE. YOU CAN MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, WHICH WE WANT. BUT IF, IF AT THE END, THE CITY IS NOT TAKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS SERIOUSLY AND IMPLEMENTING THEM, THEN WE'RE KIND OF SAYING IT WOULD BE A FALSE PROCESS. DOES THAT ANSWER WHAT YOU WERE WONDERING? YEAH. THAT TH THAT TO ME MAKES SENSE. I GET THAT. I GET THAT, AND THERE'S A REQUEST FOR MORE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. UM, AND SO I WAS GOING TO ASK IF MAYBE FOLKS WHO ARE ABLE TO OFFER THAT IN THE CHAT WHILE WE MOVE TO SOME OF THESE OTHER, UM, SUGGESTIONS, AMENDMENTS, IT'S CETERA, CLARIFICATIONS. UM, AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE, UH, THANK YOU, ALICIA. UH, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE KATE, YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS. I DID ONLY IF EVERYONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE WHO WANTED TO, I SEE HALEY AND PAUL HANDS ON THIS, ARE THOSE OLD, I THINK THOSE ARE FROM BEFORE. OKAY. HALEY, JUST DOUBLE CHECKING WITH YOU. [01:55:02] YES. SORRY. I'M ON MY PHONE. I'LL TAKE IT OFF. NO WORRIES. NO WORRIES. GO AHEAD, KATE. THANK YOU. UM, SO I HAD A CLARIFYING QUESTION ABOUT THE DIVERSION PROGRAM THAT GOT ADDED TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS JUST NOW. AND I WAS WONDERING, SO BEING SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH THE PAD PROGRAM, THAT'S REFERENCED, UM, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE, UM, INCLUDING KIND OF MAYBE LOW LEVEL AND THEY HAVE, UM, LANGUAGE IN THEIR OPERATIONAL, UM, AND THERE ARE GUIDING POLICIES AROUND SORT OF NON-VIOLENT OFFENSES. I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD INCLUDE SOME LANGUAGE THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSFORMING, RIGHT. AND RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY. UM, MANY OF THE CHARGES THAT ENTER SOMEBODY INTO THAT PAD PROGRAM ARE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE CHARGES AT ALL. THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T BE INVOLVING POLICE, UM, IN THINGS LIKE HOMELESSNESS, MENTAL HEALTH, AND SUBSTANCE USE RELATED ISSUES, POVERTY. AND I THINK, UM, IN THE, LIKE, BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, I JUST WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF THERE WAS LANGUAGE, LANGUAGE, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, THAT WE CAN GO FURTHER THAN THE PAD MODEL THAT REALLY, WE NEED TO BE DECRIMINALIZING AND MOVING AWAY FROM THE PUNITIVE APPROACH TO SOME OF THESE ISSUES. AND THAT, I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO SEE A PRE-ARREST DIVERSION FOR, FOR WHAT WE WOULD CALL A VIOLENT OFFENSE. UM, WE REALLY DON'T NEED A CENTER, UM, NECESSARILY THAT HAS, UM, THAT'S KIND OF UNDER THE PURVIEW OF POLICE BECAUSE IN THESE PROGRAMS AS WELL, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE PRE ARREST, THE OFFICER HAS ALL THE DISCRETION IN, IN WHETHER OR NOT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS. AND SO ALL THE RACISM AND, AND STIGMA COMES UP IN DECIDING, OKAY, DO WE, DO WE DIVERT THEM OR DO WE TAKE THEM TO JAIL? AND THAT WAS FEEDBACK. WE GOT IN CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE IN ATLANTA AS WELL AROUND THAT PROGRAM A FEW YEARS AGO. AND SO I JUST WAS WONDERING IF YOU'D BE OPEN TO LIKE A LITTLE LANGUAGE THAT'S ACKNOWLEDGING, LIKE WE COULD EVEN GO FURTHER THAT WE NEED PRE-ARREST ABSOLUTELY. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO SORT OF THINK ABOUT JUST NON POLICE RESPONSE, UM, AND DECRIMINALIZATION, CHARLES, DID YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? YEAH, I THINK JESSICA SHOULD. OKAY. UM, SO YES, I THINK THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. I THINK WE WERE SEEING PAT AS A STARTING POINT, UM, AND I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, UM, THE PERSON WHO IS RUNNING PAD, WHO ALSO MENTIONED THAT THERE IS STRENGTH IN ALSO HAVING IT BE COMMUNITY INITIATED RATHER THAN SPECIFICALLY, AND ONLY TIED TO, UM, LAW ENFORCEMENT'S DISCRETION SO THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT RESOURCE OUTSIDE OF THE CRIMINAL CONTEXT. UM, SO YES, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY SEE THAT AS FRIENDLY AND AGAIN, JUST THINKING OF IT AS A STARTING POINT, MORE SO THAN A DESTINATION AND MY APOLOGIES, JESSICA, I DON'T KNOW WHY I MADE THAT MENTAL SWITCH. UM, SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE AMANDA, YOU SAID THERE ARE SOME MORE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU MISSED. UM, YEAH. W SORRY, AMANDA SURVIVOR JUSTICE PROJECT IS TWO MORE BECAUSE I THINK WE REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON THINGS THAT, THAT HAD A PRICE TAG, BUT WE DID HAVE, UM, A RECOMMENDATION ON MANDATED REPORTING AGAIN, THINKING ABOUT THOSE, UM, INTERSECTING SYSTEMS THAT ARE REALLY HORRIBLE, UM, AND THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER LEE BROAD MANDATING REPORTING, UM, PRACTICES, HARM SURVIVORS. SO APD HAS A POLICY OF, UM, UH, REPORTING TO DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY PROTECTIVE SERVICES, UM, WHEN A SURVIVOR HAS KIDS. AND SO I THINK, UM, APD NEEDS TO DO AWAY WITH THAT POLICY AGAIN, KIND OF GETTING THESE KIDS WRAPPED UP INTO SYSTEMS NEEDS TO CHANGE. AND THEN WHEN WE DID HAVE A, UM, A RECOMMENDATION ON OFFICE OF VIOLENCE ON SORRY, ON, UM, THE INDEPENDENT OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND JUST KIND OF RECOMMIT, LIKE AFFIRMING THIS, UM, I KNOW IT'S FOR A PUBLIC VOTE, BUT, UM, WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCED IN VIOLENCE [02:00:01] PER HEAD SITUATED BY POLICE, UM, NEED WAYS TO GET ACCOUNTABILITY. UM, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UM, THAT ORGANIZATION IS NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, UNDERNEATH THE SAME GROUP OF FOLKS THAT ARE UNDER THAT POLICE ARE UNDER, SO THAT THERE IS MORE SAFETY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. UM, SO WE REALLY, REALLY WANT TO FOR, UH, THE IDEA OF INDEPENDENT OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT I FORGOT WE HAD, WE HAD ADDED, UM, REALLY KIND OF, BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD, UM, SATURDAY, BUT ALSO JUST GENERALLY, UM, OUTSIDE OF KIND OF THE COST, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS OR THE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU, AMANDA. UM, IS THAT, I JUST WANT TO, IF ANY OTHER KIND OF AMENDMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS THAT FOLKS MIGHT HAVE, UH, FOR THE VIOLENCE SURVIVOR SERVICES AND PREVENTION NOW WOULD BE THE TIME. AND THEN WE WILL, ONCE WE'RE DONE WITH THAT WORKING GROUP, WE'LL GO BACK TO BOTH THE PATROL AND SURVEILLANCE AND THE OPERATING UNIT OF HARM PUNITIVE AND HARM CULTURE. UM, SO DAVID JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE, ANY AMENDMENTS, ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR THE VIOLENCE SURVIVORS WORKING GROUP. OKAY. LET'S MOVE INTO THE PATROL AND SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUPS, DAVID. YEAH. HELLO EVERYONE. I'M DAVID JOHNSON, GRASSROOTS LEADERSHIP. SO I'LL START BY UP TO THANK YOU FOR WAITING FOR ME, UH, TECH ISSUES. SO WITH REGARD TO, UH, PATROL AND SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUP, THE ONE UPDATE THAT WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO SEND HER OR LIFT UP, IS THAT IN ACKNOWLEDGING THE, THE DESIRE FOR SPECIFIC NUMBERS, WE WENT, WE MOVED FROM A ESTIMATE OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WOULD BE THAT WE'RE ASKING TO BE DECOUPLED AND REALLOCATED. THIS YEAR, WE WENT TO SPECIFIC AMOUNTS. SO THE AMOUNTS, UH, ARE 66 MILLION THIS YEAR TO REALLOCATE AND 10 MILLION THIS YEAR, THIS BUDGET A YEAR TO, TO DECOUPLE. SO BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT WORKING GROUP, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR POINTS OF CONCERN NEED FOR CLARITY REQUEST OR A HUG OR AMENDED? WE WILL TAKE COMPLIMENTS TOO, SINCE WE WERE DOING THAT EARLIER. ABSOLUTELY. IT'S A HARD DAY, THE LITTLE REACTION FUNCTION ONLINE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE INTO, THANKS, KATE. LET'S MOVE INTO THE PUNITIVE AND HARMFUL CULTURE AND INTERSECTING SYSTEMS. THANK YOU. UM, SO IN THINKING ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY MADE A REQUEST FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR AND THAT IS DISRESPECTFUL TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE. THAT IS THAT, AND I WILL FALL ON THAT SWORD AND SAY THAT, THAT WAS ME BEING LIMITED BY ALL OF THE FIGHTS THAT WE'VE HAD OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS WITH THE CITY, TRYING TO GET EQUITY AND JUSTICE AND ACCESS TO WELLNESS FOR EVERYONE. AND SO THERE'S THAT PART OF ME FELT LIKE, YEAH, WE'LL ASK FOR THE MILLION TO EXPAND THE OFFICE. AND WHILE THAT, AND WE'LL MENTION THAT IT'S A START, NO, WE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND OUR, OUR RECOMMENDATION TO ADD. THEN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE WOULD LIKE $5 MILLION BUDGETED FOR THE EQUITY OFFICE, BOTH FOR THE EXPANSION OF STAFF, AND ALSO TO BEGIN DEVELOPING A STANDALONE EQUITY CENTER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN THE EASTERN CRESCENT. [02:05:04] YOUR COMMITMENT IS REFLECTED BY YOUR INVESTMENTS. SO IF IT SEEMED REASONABLE A YEAR AGO TO INVEST 440 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS IN A POLICE FORCE THAT KILLS AN ARM. AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY WITHIN REASON TO ASK FOR THE CITY TO INVEST, TO DELETE $6 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FEW BUDGET CYCLES TOWARDS DEVELOPING EQUITY, ESPECIALLY ROOTING IT IN THE PART OF, IN THE AREA OF AUSTIN THAT HAS BEEN MOST INEQUITABLY TREATED. SO THAT IS THE AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ON BEHALF OF THE UPGRADING PUNITIVE AND HARMFUL CULTURE, INTERSECTING SYSTEMS WORKING GROUP. SO ARE YOU FRIENDLY TO YOUR OWN AMENDMENT, DAVID, IF YOU KNEW ME YOU'D KNOW HOW REAL THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION COULD BE, BUT IS THERE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE, UH, FROM THAT WORKING GROUP ON THE TASK FORCE CURRENTLY? ABSOLUTELY. ONE OF, UH, MR. BRIAN OAKS IS, IS ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE TASK FORCE. ALSO BETHANY CARSON. SHE GAVE REAL, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WORKING GROUP MEMBERS ON THIS PHONE. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL JUST, UH, INVITE ANY OTHER, UH, WORKING GROUP MEMBERS TO COMMENT ON THIS AMENDMENT. IF, IF YOU'D LIKE, I DON'T HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT ONE, BUT THE OTHER AMENDMENT WE HAD WAS THERE WAS A, A CONCRETE THAT WAS THERE FOR POLICY REVIEW. AND THAT WAS AMENDED TO BE 30 DAYS FOR JUST TO BE CLEAR FOR EVERYBODY ON THAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S D IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM LAST WEEK, BRIAN? I FEEL LIKE YOU DID GENTLEMEN THAT IN REAL TIME, LAST WEEK, I THINK WE MIGHT'VE AMENDED IT IN CONVERSATION, BUT THE DOCUMENTS THEMSELVES WERE NEVER AMENDED. OKAY, GREAT, GOOD, GOOD TO UNDERSTAND. SO WE'RE, UM, PROCEEDING IN DIVINE ORDER RIGHT ON TIME. UM, AND SO I JUST WANT TO, UM, INVITE MY CO-CHAIRS OR ANY OF THE OTHER TASK FORCE MEMBERS TO WALK US THROUGH THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS NOW THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL NINE OF THE WORKING GROUPS AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, I JUST WANT TO ASK IF A VOTE NECESSARY, UM, AND THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT VOTE. UH, THE FIRST THOUGHT I HAD WAS, UM, ANY AMENDMENTS THAT WERE MADE JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. I DID PUT INTO THE CHAT, WHAT AT LEAST YEAH. HAD REWORDED FOR ADDING EDITING NUMBER EIGHT OF THE NINE ONE ONE WORKING GROUP. AND THEN I TRIED TO PUT THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE NOW THE UPDATED RECOMMENDATION. UM, AND I, SO I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT SINCE THAT WAS ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS AND MAYBE SEE WHAT WERE THE OTHER AMENDMENTS, JUST GO THROUGH THEM REAL QUICKLY, MAKE SURE WE'RE COMFORTABLE. AND THEN I WOULD PROPOSE THAT THEN WE VOTE AS A, AS A SLATE, UM, UH, OF, OF ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. UH, BRIAN, HOW DOES THAT SOUND TO YOU? GOOD. I'M SORRY. MY LITTLE ONE'S GETTING READY FOR PACE, BUT THAT SOUNDS GOOD. SO PRASANNA, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SHOULD WE JUST WALK THROUGH THE FEW AMENDMENTS AND THEN WE HAVE A PACKAGE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WOULD TAKE A FULL TASK FORCE VOTE ON? YES. WELL, I CAN JUST VERY QUICKLY. NUMBER EIGHT. UM, LISA, DID YOU SEE IT? I HOPE IT'S WHAT, OKAY. IN ORDER TO ENGENDER COMMUNITY TRUST IN THE CITY'S RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY PROCESS, THE CITY SHOULD NUMBER ONE, NOT RETURN ANY OF THE RE-IMAGINING OR DECOUPLING FUNDS TO APD. NUMBER TWO, FOLLOW THE RE-IMAGINING, THE RPS TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION AND NOT FUND AN APD CADET CLASS. AND NUMBER THREE, INVEST THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE RE-IMAGINING CITY FUNDS TOWARDS HOLISTIC COMMUNITY SAFETY RECOMMENDATIONS OF THIS TASK FORCE WORKING GROUPS IN THIS BUDGET YEAR, ONLY WITH THESE DISPLAYS OF COMMITMENT BY THE CITY. DO WE RECOMMEND A SECOND PHASE OF RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY THAT ALLOWS FOR TRANSPARENT AND THOUGHTFUL COMMUNITY INPUT IN CREATING A RE-IMAGINING [02:10:01] PUBLIC SAFETY PLAN THAT LEADS TOWARDS EFFECTIVE RESULTS FOR SYSTEMIC CHANGE? THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE. SO THAT'S THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS? UM, OTHERWISE EVERYTHING I HEARD HEARD, OH, I'M SORRY. CHEATS AMENDMENT ON THE LANGUAGE FOR, UM, THE DIVERSION. K UH, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION BEFORE THE MEETING. I REALLY DON'T HAVE A TON OF TIME, BUT I AM TRYING TO FRANTICALLY WRITE SOMETHING UP. IF YOU GIVE ME LIKE ONE MORE MINUTE, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO PRESENT SOMETHING. SURE. IN THE MEANTIME, I SEE, UH, IN THE CHAT FROM NORDEA AND A NOTE THAT LEGAL REMINDS HER THAT IF ANY RECOMMENDATION SPEAK TO A TOPIC THAT IS CURRENTLY SLATED FOR A PUBLIC VOTE ON MAY BALLOT STAFF CANNOT COMMENT. IS THERE SOMETHING ON THE MAY BALLOT, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT, UM, THE DESIGNATION OR THE PO POSSIBLE INDEPENDENCE OF OPO. AND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT STAFF CANNOT COMMENT ON IF IT'S OKAY. I AM HAPPY TO KIND OF TAKE BACK THAT RECOMMENDATION. UM, IF THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR THIS BODY TO VOTE ON RECOMMENDATION, ONE OF THE POINTS THAT OUT FOR OUR SAKE, RIGHT. DO FOR HER STAFF AS WELL. CAUSE I DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO GET INTO SOME LEGAL WATERS IF THEY, IF THEY WEREN'T THINKING ABOUT THAT, I'M GOING TO SAY, I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY BECAUSE I WAS ABSTAINING FROM MO FOR ALL OF THE WORK GROUPS ANYWAY, EXCEPT FOR OURS. BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, WHEN I HAVE TO ABSTAIN. SO FOR ME, I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO REMOVE IT BECAUSE I'M JUST GOING TO, I JUST THINK THE ISSUE IS WE'RE VOTING AS THIS LATE. SO IF THAT MEANS NO CITY STAFF CAN VOTE ON, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT, I DEFINITELY WANT TO, I CAN EITHER REFRAME IT TO NOT SPECIFICALLY. UM, I DUNNO, LET ME, I'M HAPPY TO, TO AMEND IT IF THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT IT TO GET IN THE WAY OF US BEING ABLE TO VOTE TOGETHER AS A TASK FORCE. I'LL JUST INVITE OTHER CITY STAFF MEMBERS. UM, IF YOU, IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS NOW, NO IDEA. SORRY. IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE ME, DOESN'T IT? UM, I WILL SAY THIS, THAT MAYBE THERE'S SOME CLARITY ON THE LANGUAGE OF WHAT THE VOTE IS. UM, IF THE VOTE IS SUBSTANCE LEAD, DO WE AGREE AS A SEND ALL OF THESE TO THE MANAGER AND THE COUNCIL BODY AS RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TASK FORCE? THEN I THINK STAFF IS IN A DIFFERENT POSITION IF IT IS, UH, ENDORSEMENT OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, EVEN THOUGH SOME I KNOW WE'RE GETTING TWEAKED AND WE'RE OUTLINING SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE LANGUAGE, I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU WILL FIND THAT SOME STAFF MAY ABSTAIN, UM, AS SOME OF THE ISSUES, UH, OR THE IMMEDIATE RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, AND I, AND I DON'T, I, I WON'T SPEAK FOR ALL OF THE STAFF OF THE STAFF MEMBERS, BUT NOT ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I THINK THAT WE CAN, UM, AFFIRMATIVELY ENDORSE, BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN TO SAY WE AFFIRMATIVELY ENDORSED ALL OF THEM GOING TO THE MANAGER AND THE COUNCIL BODY. CAUSE I BELIEVE MOST OF US WOULD SAY YES TO THAT. SO PERHAPS SOME CLARITY ON WHAT THE VOTE LANGUAGE WOULD BE MIGHT HELP IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YES. SO, UM, INVITING ANY OF THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS TO OFFER UP LANGUAGE DELETION? UM, YEAH, IT WAS JUST, UH, I WAS, I WAS SAYING CALMING THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOTICING, UM, A LOT OF THE, THE CITY STAFF, UH, CHOOSING TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON THE RECOMMENDATION AND I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, UM, [02:15:01] A FAIR DID PUT ON ON THERE BECAUSE SHE HASN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST, YOU KNOW, BE TORN AND READ THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATIONS I BELIEVE IS WHAT WAS IT INITIALLY? I JUST SAW, UM, ASSISTANT, UM, CITY STAFF, UH, CITY MANAGER, RATA, YANNO ALSO UPSTANDING ON THE VOTE. I HAVE A RECENT HASN'T BEEN GIVEN AND, YOU KNOW, UM, NEW DA JUST MENTIONING WHAT SHE MENTIONED. AND SO, UM, I'M JUST, UH, MAYBE JUST CONCERNED ARE A LITTLE TAKEN BACK AS TO LIKE CITY STAFF HAS BEEN A PART OF THIS PROCESS. UM, I I'M UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE MOVING WITH THAT THE INTENTION OF THE VOTE PART OF THE PROCESS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT RECOMMENDATIONS WERE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD. I BELIEVE AT SOME POINT TONIGHT, EVEN IN THE CHAT, I SAW A NEW VIDEO PUT UP THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS WE'RE GOING TO BE SENT TO, TO THE CITY MANAGER. AND SO, UM, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT WE ARE THE VOTE, YOU KNOW, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UM, OUR C DIRECTLY IS THAT WE'RE VOTING. IT MEANS LIKE WHATEVER PROP RECOMMENDATIONS MOVE FORWARD, UH, ARE MOVING FORWARD, UH, WITH THE, UH, FULL SUPPORT, RIGHT, AS HAVING BEEN ENDORSED BY THE ENTIRE TASK FORCE, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF, OF CITY STAFF. RIGHT. AND, AND I THINK THAT IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY, UM, ANYBODY ABSTAINING, LIKE THEY HAVE TO, IT HAS TO BE PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD, WHY THEY'RE ABSTAINING. THAT IS FOR THE SAKE OF, OF, UH, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE FOLKS, TO, TO COMMUNITY, RIGHT. NOT JUST TO, NOT JUST TO, TO US, BUT TO COMMUNITY AS WELL. UM, AND, UM, AND YEAH, I MEAN, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE TAKEN BACK BY JUST CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY THIS LIMITATIONS ON, ON TOURING ELECTION STUFF. RIGHT. AS WHITE FOLKS CAN TAKE A VOTE, UM, ALL OF THIS, UM, JUST MAKES ME GO BACK TO THINKING OF A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE CITY HAD, RIGHT. UM, AT THE SAME TIME, ALL THIS PARALLEL CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE WERE HAVING OUR, WE WERE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN OUR WORK, AND THERE SEEMED TO NOT BE AN IMPEDIMENT ON, ON THAT SIDE. UM, BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT AS THAT. AND THEN JUST MAYBE WHAT I'M SAYING IS OFFERING THAT, UM, I'M RECOMMENDING THAT THE LANGUAGE OF THE VOTE IS, UM, THAT WE'RE VOTING TO MOVE FORWARD, UM, AND A VOTE OF YES. MEANS THAT YOU ARE IN FULL SUPPORT OR ENDORSEMENT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, OKAY. AND WE'LL DISCUSS, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR AMENDMENT TO ALICIA'S PROPOSED LANGUAGE? OKAY. SO ALICIA, YOU'RE PUTTING FORTH EMOTION, UM, YEAH. AND INCLUDED IN, IN THE EMOTION. I DEFINITELY WANT TO, TO ADD THAT SECTION, YOU KNOW, UM, OF ANYBODY THAT IS ABSTAINING FROM THE BOAT, AGAIN, THINK THIS IS DEEP VOTE, UM, THAT WE ARE LEADING UP TO, RIGHT. THAT WE, ALL OF OUR WORK ENERGY HAS LED UP TO. SO IF THERE WILL BE ANYBODY ABSTAINING FROM THE BOAT, UM, THAT THERE'LL BE SOME SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND COMMENT AS TO A REASONING BEHIND THAT PERSON ABSTAINING FROM THE BOAT. AND ARE YOU AMENABLE TO THE COMMENTS IN THE CHAT AS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN ONE OF THE CITY STUFF? YEAH. I THINK THAT, THAT IF THAT IS THE OPTION THAT, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, UM, UH, STAFF, UM, PERSON WANTS TO PUT UP, BUT THAT IS NOT THE DISCRETION THAT IS AT THEIR DISCRETION. I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT, UM, THAT IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER EXIST ON THE, ON THE RECORD OF THE BOAT. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. YEAH. YEAH. I'M SORRY, MONICA. SHE, HER HERS GODIVA. UM, I'VE RAISED MY HAND A FEW TIMES AND I GUESS IT'S NOT BEING SEEN IT DOESN'T COME UP IN THE, YEAH, MY APOLOGIES. GO FOR IT. NO, THAT'S OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY AMENDMENTS NECESSARILY TO WHAT AT LEAST YOU SAID, BUT, AND I APOLOGIZE. I DID NOT INTERRUPT LONG TIME AGO, BUT BEFORE WE GO TO A VOTE, I NEED CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE VERY FIRST, UH, WORK GROUP, THE BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE I HEARD TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. I HEARD WE HAVE NO RECOMMENDATIONS TO TAKE THE COUNCIL AND I HEARD WE DON'T HAVE ANY AT THIS TIME. SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER TASK FORCE MEMBERS, BUT I CANNOT IN GOOD [02:20:01] FAITH TO THE COMMUNITY. I AM HERE REPRESENTING MAKE A VOTE ON SOMETHING I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING AND THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT. SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT, MONICA. UM, I THINK TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THE BUSINESS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK GROUP IS NOT GOING TO PUT FORTH RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL GO TO COUNCIL ON BEHALF OF THIS TASK FORCE, I THINK IS THE MOST CLEAR WAY I CAN PUT IT. I I'M SORRY FOR NOT BEING SO CLEAR EARLIER, BUT I HOPE THAT HELPS KIND OF CLEAR IT UP. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THEN I WILL SAY AT THIS POINT, WHATEVER THE VOTE IS, MAKES IT CLEAR THAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS DO NOT INCLUDE THAT WORK GROUP BECAUSE IT HAS NO RECOMMENDATIONS TO PUT FORWARD. AND I, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, DAVID. YES. IF I COULD PIGGYBACK ON, ON MONICA, MONICA, THANKS SO MUCH FOR ASKING THE QUESTION. UM, WOULD, CAN YOU SPEAK MORE TO WHY, BECAUSE YOUR EXACT WORDS, I BELIEVE I'D LIKE TO DESCRIBE THEM, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT YOU SAID THE ECONOMIC, THE BUSINESS AND REINVEST ECONOMIC END UP WITH THAT YOUR WORKING GROUP IS NOT GOING TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THE TASK FORCE. AND YOU DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY NAME WITH THE TASK FORCE TONIGHT. YOU JUST SAID WITH THE TASK FORCE. SO I'D LIKE TO CRACK THAT OPEN A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE WORDS MEAN THINGS AND ASK YOU, IS THERE ANY INTENTION WHATSOEVER OF YOUR WORKING GROUP TO PRESENT ITS RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH THE TASK FORCE, TO THE CITY COUNCIL, OR IS THE PLAN FOR YOUR WORKING GROUP TO PROVIDE ITS RECOMMENDATION THROUGH ANOTHER CHANNEL? AND THE REASON I WANT TO BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE NURIA SPECIFICALLY, UH, SAID EARLIER TODAY THAT SHE BELIEVED THAT ALL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WORKING GROUPS NEEDED TO GO THROUGH THE TASK FORCE. SO I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR WHEN YOU SAID YOUR WORKING GROUP IS NOT GOING TO BE PROVIDING ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE TASK WITH THE TASK FORCE AND CITY COUNCIL. DID YOU MEAN JUST RIGHT NOW OR DID YOU MEAN PERIODS? WELL, UM, LIKE I SAID, THE BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK GROUP IS NOT GOING TO BE PUTTING OUT ANY RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE TASK, WHETHER OR NOT THE CRIME COMMISSION PUTS OUT, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS ON THINGS ON OUR OWN OUTSIDE OF THE TASK FORCE THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN. BUT THE BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK GROUP IS NOT GOING TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH THE TASKFORCE PROCESS. THEN WOULD YOU MIND SPEAKING TO WHY? AND I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID, AND THIS IS ME PINNING YOU DOWN FOR A CLEAR ANSWER. YOU CAN, HONESTLY, YOU CAN TELL THE TRUTH AND SAY, I WOULD PREFER NOT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT PLEASE YOUR RE WHAT IS YOUR REASON FOR NOT WHAT IS, BECAUSE THEN YOU JUST MENTIONED HOW THE GREATER AUSTIN CRIME COMMISSION AND I HOPE YOU'RE NOT COMPLAINING THE GREATER AUSTIN CLIMB COMMISSIONER WITH THIS WORKING GROUP OF, THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. ALTHOUGH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ONE IS LEADING, BUT SINCE YOU WANTED TO CONFLATE THEM, ARE YOU SIMPLY SAYING THAT THE GREATER AUSTIN CRIME COMMISSION YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN THE WORKING GROUP PROCESS AND BUS, YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S A BETTER CHANGE, THE RECOMMENDATION BEING HEARD IF YOU WERE PUSHING THROUGH ANOTHER CHANNEL, OR ARE YOU SAYING THAT IS NOT THE CASE? OR ARE YOU SAYING YOU WOULD PREFER NOTHING? UM, SO THERE'S A LOT TO ANSWER THERE. NUMBER ONE, I, I DID NOT INTEND TO CONFLATE THE GREATER AUSTIN CRIME COMMISSION AND ITS OWN CAPACITY WITH THE WORKER. THOSE TWO ARE NOT THE SAME. AND I, I, I HOPE THAT HOW I WAS SAYING THAT DIDN'T COME OFF THAT WAY. UM, MAN, I, I MIGHT'VE MISSED A LOT OF QUESTIONS. UM, I, I'M NOT SURE. COULD, COULD YOU KIND OF NAILED DOWN A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WERE ASKING BECAUSE I GOT KINDA CONFUSED. YES THAT'S OKAY. THAT HAPPENS. YOU JUST SUPPRESS YOUR SITUATION RAUNCHY. SO WHY IS THE BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC OR ECONOMIC EVENTS DEVELOPED? WHY IS YOUR WORKING GROUP CHOOSING NOT TO PUSH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH THE TASK FORCE, TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF ALL THE OTHER WORKING GROUPS ARE DOING AND YOU'VE ALREADY NAMED, SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU LET YOU OFF THE HOOK YOU DIDN'T NEED TO, BUT YOU'VE ALREADY LET IT BE VERY CLEAR. IF ANYONE WAS PAYING ATTENTION, THAT'S A GREATER OFTEN GRIND COMMISSION IN SOME WAY, INTENDS TO MAKE ITS OWN RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THE FACT THAT YOU BROUGHT IT UP US A GOOD REASON TO BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE BASED ON THE WORK COMING FROM THIS WORKING GROUP. SO I'M ASKING YOU CLEARLY, DAVID, DAVID, PLEASE SLOW DOWN. OH, SORRY. BUT WE NEED THEM TO BE CAPTURED BY THE, YEAH. HOLD ON. I'M GOING TO TAKE FACILITATOR PRIVILEGE JUST A MOMENT. UM, SO DAVID, YOU DID ASK THE QUESTION AND [02:25:01] THEN WE GOT A LOT MORE AFTER IT THAT WAS QUALIFYING THAT I THINK MIGHT BE AT THE HEART OF THE CONFUSION. SO LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND LET COLE ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHY THE BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKING GROUP HAS NOT PUT FORTH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO KIND OF, I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION BETTER NOW. AND SO THE, THE, THE CRIME COMMISSION HAS BEEN TRANSPARENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NETWORK AND OTHER CHANNELS THAT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF STARTING A CADET CLASS AND FOLLOWING THE CITY MANAGER'S BLUEPRINT FOR THE RE-IMAGINING OR THE RE-IMAGINE CADET CLASS. UM, SO OUR RECOMMENDATION THERE WOULD KIND OF RUN DIRECTLY COUNTER TO ONE OF THE BIG RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TASK FORCE. WE THOUGHT, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE TO RESTART CADET CLASSES AND BEING AS, UM, THE WILL OF THE BODY, CERTAINLY, UM, HAS BEEN REFLECTED BEING THAT, THAT THAT IS NOT THE, THE WILL OF THE BODY. WE THOUGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT RECOMMENDATION PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE ACCEPTED. AND SO WE, WE JUST DECIDED IT MIGHT BE BEST FOR US NOT TO PUT FORTH RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONEST ANSWER. I RESPECT YOU SO MUCH. YOU GAVE AN ANSWER THAT I KNEW ALREADY, AND YOU STILL PROVIDED TO ME KNOWING THAT IT WASN'T A POPULAR ANSWER. I RESPECT YOUR ABILITY TO GIVE AN HONEST ANSWER WHILE YOU'RE HOLDING THAT SPOT. THANK YOU, DAVID. I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE HAILEY. YOU HAD YOUR HAND. UH, I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. OKAY. UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, THERE IS A QUESTION. MONICA, DO YOU WANNA, UM, COME OFF MUTE AND ASK YOUR QUESTION? SURE. UM, IN, IN OUR DOCUMENTS, THE TEMPLATES PROVIDED FOR THE WORK GROUPS, WHICH WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE DONE BY NOON. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO IDENTIFY WORK GROUP MEMBERS. THE ONLY NAME I SEE FOR THE ECON, THE BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORK GROUP IS CARRIE ROBERTS NAME, CALL. I KNOW YOU ARE HIS ALTERNATE ON THE TASK FORCE. I'M GUESSING, BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE SHARED WITH US TONIGHT, YOU ARE ALSO PART OF THE WORK GROUP. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THAT WORK GROUP? UM, WE, WE HAVE HAD SOME MEETINGS WITH OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE CITY, UM, OR NOT FROM THE CITY, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT LIVE IN THE CITY. UM, YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT JUST ME AND CARRIE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I MEAN, I'M JUST GOING TO, I STATED IN THE CHAT BOX AND YES, I KNOW RC WE'RE TIGHT ON TIME, BUT I HAVE TO SAY IT. I MEAN, I'M JUST, I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND ESPECIALLY THE WAY THINGS HAVE BUBBLED UP. I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS CALLS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, I, I AM STILL BOTHERED BY THIS VERY MUCH BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE KNOWN MR. ROBERTS FOR MANY YEARS. I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE GREATER AUSTIN CRIME COMMISSION, AND I KNOW THEY ROUTINELY GO BEFORE COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, AND WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT, BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THEM USING THAT ROUTE TO CIRCUMVENT THE TASKFORCE. AND THAT'S ANOTHER SLAP IN THE FACE FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE SPENT HOURS MONTH IN AND MONTH OUT. THANK YOU, MONICA. I'M GOING TO CON CHAZ. UM, THANK YOU, RC. UH, UM, MY, MY, MY VIDEO BUTTON ISN'T WORKING AS WELL, BUT, UM, DISAPPOINTED IS NOT THE WORD, UM, IN THE FACT THAT I FEEL, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH CARRIE'S PERSONAL LIFE, BUT FOR CARRIE NOT TO BE HERE IN SIN, HIS ALTERNATE TO KIND OF PULL THIS PLAY IS VERY DISAPPOINTING. UM, ALSO I WANT TO POINT OUT SOME THINGS THAT, THAT I BELIEVE SHOULD, SHOULD, UM, ALLOW US TO BRING UP A VOTE TO REMOVE THE GREAT AUSTIN CRIME COMMISSION, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ACTING IN GOOD FAITH, UM, AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE SAYING THEY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO PRESENT, BUT NOT ON BEHALF OF THE TASK FORCE LIKE [02:30:01] THAT, THAT'S A COMPLETE, LIKE THEY'RE NOT EVEN GIVING US THE CHANCE AS A TASKFORCE TO VET THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE EVEN GONNA SAY TO CITY COUNCIL. SO THEM BEING HERE IS, IS JUST IT CONFLICT. AND, YOU KNOW, COLE, WE'VE MET A COUPLE OF TIMES, NO DISRESPECT TO YOU. UM, LIKE ALSO, YOU KNOW, COLE BROUGHT UP ANOTHER GOOD POINT. LIKE THEY ARE GOING IN, IN THEIR SEAT AS A GREAT ARTIST AS THE GREATER AUSTIN CROWN COMMISSION, THEY ARE PUTTING IN THE NEWSLETTERS THAT THEY STILL SUPPORT A CADET CLASS. AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THEM NOT ACTING IN GOOD FAITH IN THEIR ROLE ON THE TASK FORCE. SO THEY HAVE, UH, AN RC I'M ALMOST DONE. THEY HAVE A TASK FORCE. THAT'S NON-EXISTENT LIKE IN CODE, YOU SAID IS OTHER PEOPLE, THOSE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN NAMED. THEY HAVE GONE AGAINST ALREADY THE GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TASK FORCE WHEN IT CAME TO THE CADET CLASS. AND THEN THEY JUST SAID, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE DID IT ON PURPOSE OR NOT. THEY JUST SAID, THEY'RE GONNA SEND THEIR OWN RECOMMENDATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE TASK FORCE. SO BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD TO VOTING OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A VERY SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT THEM BEING A PART OF THIS TASK FORCE, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE INDEPENDENTLY, THEN THEY DON'T NEED TO BE A PART OF THIS COLLECTIVE. SO THERE ARE TWO THINGS HOLD ON, WE HAVE A QUEUE. SO, UM, YOU CAN GO AFTER, CAN I PLEASE JUST DIRECTLY RESPOND TO ONE? I JUST, WE'RE GOING TO, IT'S JUST ABOUT GET SO CARRIED RIGHT NOW. ANYONE ELSE ON THE TASK FORCE HAS ACTUALLY HELD MY, MY FACILITATION. SO I, UM, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, RAY IS GOING TO SPEAK CITY MANAGER, STAFF PERSON, AND THEN YOU WILL SPEAK R R C BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE ADDRESSING HOW MY ABSTENTION ON THE VOTE. I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PASS THAT TO COLE, TO RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS. GO AHEAD. COOL. SO TO ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT YOU SAID, CARRIE RIGHT NOW IS ON THE TICO ADVISORY BOARD MEETING FOR, UM, THE CADET OR THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT CADET CLASS. SO IT WASN'T, WE WEREN'T TRYING TO MAKE SOME PLAY TO WHERE I IN MY ALTERNATE CAPACITY COME OUT HERE AND NOT KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. AND THAT, THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT. UM, I KIND OF FORGOT WHAT THE SECOND THING, OH, I REMEMBER NOW. SO THE CRIME COMMISSION AND OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY BELIEVE THAT CADET CLASSES SHOULD GO FORTH IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S PLAN. WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION DURING THE TASK FORCE MEETING, WE WILL, WE COULD MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION ON OUR OWN AS OUR OWN BODY, BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION ON BEHALF OF THE TASK FORCE, BECAUSE THIS HAS FORCE HAS MADE CLEAR THAT THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY BELIEVE. AND WE LIKE THE POINTS THAT WE WOULD BE DOING THE TASK FORCE, A DISSERVICE BY TRYING IF WE WERE TO GO THAT ROUTE, AS DAVID WAS SAYING EARLIER, WE WOULD BE CONFLATING OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATION AS SPEAKING FOR THE ENTIRE TASKFORCE, WHICH WAS NOT THE INTENT. AND I'M, I'M SORRY IF IT HAS COME OFF THAT WAY, I'VE NOT BEEN EXTREMELY CLEAR ON WHAT I'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING ON BEHALF OF OUR WORK GROUP. UM, I, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS, CHAZ. UM, BUT YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. COOL. OKAY. AND IS IT MY TURN NOW? THANK YOU, MARCY. UM, AND I SHOULD THANK YOU FOR, UM, I GUESS NOT NECESSARILY CALLING ME OUT, BUT WAS WAITING MY TURN, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, WHEN WE GOT TO THE PLACE WHERE WE NEEDED TO VOTE, UH, TO THEN AT THAT POINT, UM, INDICATE THE REASONS WHY I'LL BE ABSTAINING. AND I GUESS WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A SECOND AT THIS MOTIONS AT THIS MOMENT. SO I'LL NONETHELESS SAY THAT I TEND TO DO YOU HAVE A SECOND, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY ON A TOTALLY DIFFERENT TOPIC NOW. SO ONCE YOU'RE DONE, THEN I WILL COME BACK TO THE MATTER AT HAND. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I DO INTEND TO ABSTAIN FROM THE VOTE. I MEAN, I THINK, UM, THE CITY MANAGER CREATED ASKED, UH, FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND PARTICIPATION IN THIS IN ORDER TO GET THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND I HAVE TO SAY IT'S, UH, FOR ME BEEN PERSONALLY IMPACTFUL, UM, INFORMATIVE, UH, AND THERE ARE SOME OUT OF THE BOX THINKING, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ABOUT HOW THESE THINGS OUGHT TO BE DONE AND THE INVESTMENTS MADE. UH, AND SO CLEARLY WE WANT TO, AND THE MANAGER IS EXPECTING AS WELL AS CERTAINLY THE COUNCIL IS EXPECTING THESE RECOMMENDATIONS [02:35:01] TO COME FORWARD A VOTE REALLY ISN'T NECESSARY. HOWEVER, GIVEN THAT YOU DO WANT TO HAVE A VOTE, UH, AND THAT WHAT'S ON THE TABLE, I BELIEVE IS TO FULLY ENDORSE ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. I CAN'T IN FULL IN GOOD FAITH, BE ABLE TO SUPPORT SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE JUST GOING TO BE CHALLENGING TO, UM, PUT IN PLACE, UH, GIVEN ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I'LL BE ABSTAINING. THANK YOU, RAY. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, WERE YOU PUTTING FORTH A MOTION? I WOULD, I WOULD GLADLY DO THAT. UM, BUT I'M ALSO UP FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT, NO, NO, NO, I AM. I AM PUTTING FORWARD A MOTION TO REMOVE GREATER AUSTIN CROWN COMMISSION FROM THIS TASK FORCE AS THEY ARE NOT ACTING IN GOOD FAITH, UM, WITH THE REST OF THE TASK FORCE. IT'S THAT SIMPLE, THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? I SECONDED. THE MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? YEAH, PROBABLY THIS IS DAVID RC. SO I GUESS THIS ALSO BRINGS UP A QUESTION. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE WHO'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING OR HAVEN'T BEEN PARTICIPATING IN GOOD FAITH. I MEAN, I THINK ALSO NOT BEING PRESENT FOR THE MEETINGS IS NOT, IT'S NOT PARTICIPATING IN GOOD FAITH IN GOOD FAITH. I MEAN, I JUST WANT TO LIKE SAY AS THAT'S BEING BROUGHT UP, I THINK THERE'S ALSO A BROADER CONVERSATION AND MAYBE THAT CAN WAIT FOR LATER, BUT JUST A BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE NOT ON THIS IN GOOD FAITH. THEY SIMPLY ALLOW THEIR NAME TO BE ON IN PARTICIPATION, BUT HAVE CONTRIBUTED NOTHING. HAVING ATTENDED A MEETING OR HAVING ATTENDED MORE THAN THE PERSON WHO JUST WANT TO SAY, WE'RE BRINGING UP, LIKE NOT MOVING A GOOD PAPERS, JUST PUT IT OUT ON THE TABLE, BUT, BUT THIS MAY NOT BE THE TIME NECESSARILY FOR THAT. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW I'M JUST GOING TO ENTERTAIN DIRECT DISCUSSION TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR, WHICH HAS BEEN SECONDED. ANY HANDS, ANY DISCUSSION, CATHY, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE UN-MUTED DID YOU JUST MUTE YOURSELF ON YOUR PHONE? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. SO I WOULD ONLY SAY THAT, UM, UH, THAT OUR STRUCTURE THAT WE CREATED AT THE VERY BEGINNING BY WHICH WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR ACTUALLY VOTING ON THINGS DOES MEAN THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO ACT BY CONSENSUS AND THAT WE CAN, AS A TASK FORCE, VOTE FOR RECOMMENDATIONS WITHOUT ALL OF US AGREEING ON ALL OF THEM. UH, AND YOU CAN EVEN, WE COULD EVEN VOTE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS A PACKAGE AND NOT ALL AGREE AND HAVE A VOTE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME NOS I'M SO SORRY, KATHY. I'M I'M I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING YOU. WE ARE CONSIDERING THE MOTION, UM, THAT CHAZ PUT FORTH AND MONICA GUZMAN, UH, SECONDED TO ASK FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE GREATER AUSTIN CRIME COMMISSION FROM THE TASK FORCE. YES. I'M COMMENTING ON THAT. OH, SORRY. MY APOLOGIES THAT I MISUNDERSTOOD. YEAH, IT IS MY INTENT TO JUST RAISE UP THE CONS THE IDEA THAT A GROUP ON THIS TASK FORCE CAN DISAGREE WITH EVERY SINGLE RECOMMENDATION AND WITHIN OUR PROCESS THAT WE CREATED AT THE BEGINNING, THAT IS A THING THAT CAN HAPPEN. AND OUR VOTING PROCESS IS UPHELD. THEN WE RECOMMEND THE THINGS THAT WE RECOMMEND BY A MAJORITY VOTE. I JUST WANT TO LOOK THAT UP. THANK YOU, OUR RC, SINCE WE'RE DOING DISCUSSION, CAN I, CAN I REPLY SHORT AND KATHY, YOU, YOU KNOW, I JUST ABSOLUTELY ADORE YOU. UM, AND I HAVE NOTHING TO WRONG WITH, WITH THAT IN WHICH WE HAVE IN PLACE, BUT FOR ME IT SEEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, AND DAVID'S, UM, COMMENT LIKE IT SEEMS THAT THEY HAVE JUST SHOWN UP, THEY HAVEN'T DONE THE OUTREACH. IT SEEMS, AND THIS IS ALL SPECULATION. IF I'M BEING COMPLETELY FAIR, IT SEEMS THAT THEY ARE [02:40:01] PLANNING TO JUST, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M JUST GOING TO BE HONEST. CAUSE IT WAS AFTER FIVE O'CLOCK THEY'VE BEEN IN THESE MEETINGS TO HEAR WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID TO THEN UP WITH THEIR OWN RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ALIGNS WITH THEIR OWN AGENDA. NOW, IF, IF, IF THEY GIVE US THE CHANCE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND DEBATE AND WE STILL DISAGREE, I'M FINE WITH THAT. BUT FOR YOU TO SHOW UP AND HAVE THIS, THIS PSEUDO WORK GROUP THAT DID NO WORK AND THEN GO ON TO HAVE THESE PRIVATE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY, THAT'S NOT ACTING IN GOOD FAITH AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE, UM, LISTED OR BRANDED WITH, WITH THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE PUT IN THIS WORK. UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. THANK YOU, CHAZ. OR, UM, I AM IN THE INTEREST OF TIME GOING TO ASK IF, UM, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON A BOAT, UM, SO THAT WE CAN GET TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE ARE GETTING, UM, ON, IN THE, IN THE PROCESS. SO CAN WE VOTE OR SEE, ARE WE GOING TO HEAR FROM JCC BEFORE THE VOTE? I DON'T MEAN TO DELAY IT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? COOL. UM, I'M NOT, UH, SPECIFICALLY, NO, I THINK I'VE KIND OF COMMUNICATED WHERE THE CRIME COMMISSION STANDS WHEN IT COMES TO RESTARTING CADET CLASSES. WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GO AGAINST THE WILL OF THE BODY. UM, I THINK THAT KIND OF WRAPS UP WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING, BUT IF WE NEED TO MOVE TO A VOTE IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, THANK YOU. COOL. YOU DESERVE A PROMOTION OR WHATEVER FROM WHOMEVER BECAUSE THEY SENT YOU OUT HERE ON THE FRONT LINES WHEN THEY KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE SOME HEAT. WE TOOK THOSE SLUGS LIKE A CHAMP, LIKE A G AND YOU NEVER LIED TO THEM. I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT. THANK YOU, DAVID. UM, WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD INFO. UM, ALICIA IS YOUR HAND UP FOR A COMMENT, JUST A CLARIFICATION ON WHAT ARE, WHAT IS EMOTION? ARE WE VOTING AN EMOTION OR WHAT EXACTLY THE VOTE IS? UM, I, I FALL INTO A CONVERSATION JUST CLARIFICATION ON WHAT ELSE HAS, HAS MOVED TO HAVE THE GREATER AUSTIN CRIME COMMISSION REMOVED FROM THE TASK FORCE. AND IT WAS SECONDED BY MONICA. SO ALL IN FAVOR, WE HAVE 10 IN FAVOR AND I JUST WANT TO CHECK BECAUSE THE ATTENDEES, IS THERE SOMEONE WHO FELL OUT IS RODNEY SANDS, A MEMBER OF THE TASK FORCE. OKAY. SORRY, RODNEY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE 10 IN FAVOR. ALL OPPOSED. LET'S GIVE A MOMENT FOR EVERYBODY TO PUT THEIR HANDS DOWN, PLEASE. ALL OPPOSED TO THE MOTION. THERE ARE FOUR OPPOSED LAST CALL FOR ANY OPPOSED. OKAY. HANDS DOWN. ANY ABSTENTIONS, ONE ABSTAINING TWO. WE HAVE TWO ABSTAINING. OKAY. WERE GOING TO MOVE NOW TO THE EMOTION THAT ALICIA HAD PUT FORTH AND MONICA HAD SECONDED. UM, AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, [02:45:01] BECAUSE THIS IS NOT MY PROCESS. SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE WITH Y'ALL, UM, THAT YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD TO VOTE ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE SENT TO CITY COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. MONICA CLARIFICATION. I DON'T REMEMBER SECONDING ELISHA'S MOTION. UM, I MEAN, I WILL DO IT. I JUST DON'T REMEMBER SAYING I SECOND IT, CAN YOU PLEASE STATE IT AGAIN, ALICIA? IT MIGHT'VE BEEN BOLA. I'M SORRY. MY APOLOGIES. THAT'S OKAY. STEREOTYPING MY OWN PEOPLE HERE, GETTING US ALL CONFUSED WITH EACH OTHER. UM, WE, UM, JUST THE, THE MOTION THAT ELISIA HAD PUT FORWARD WAS WHEN SHE WAS, UM, SAYING THAT SHE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATIONS. IT WAS A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH FULL ENDORSEMENT RIGHT. OF THE TASK FORCE. AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS SECONDED. UM, CAN WE, YES, PAULA, YOU SECONDED. GREAT. SO LET'S VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OR SAY DON'T KILL ME. I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON. IS THIS THE CHANGE TO NUMBER EIGHT? SO IN THE CHAT, SORRY, I DID NOT SEE A MOTION TO CHANGE. NUMBER EIGHT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS ACCEPTED AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. IT DID NOT REQUIRE A VOTE. OKAY. IS THAT, CAN SOMEONE PLEASE CONFIRM THAT THE NINE ONE ONE TOOK ALL THE BRILLIANT MOMENTS? YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. THERE WAS NO VOTE NEEDED. WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON IS ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL ALL IN FAVOR, I'M LOOKING TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT MISSING ANYONE WHO'S RAISING THEIR PHYSICAL HAND. DID WE LOSE PEOPLE? I SEE THIS IS VALERIE. YES. THE GRID VIEW, THE GALLERY VIEW ONLY SHOWS PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEIR VIDEO CAMERAS ACTIVE. YOU'LL NEED TO LOOK AT. YOU'LL NEED TO LOOK AT THE PARTICIPANT LIST FOR PEOPLE RAISING THEIR VIRTUAL HAND. OKAY. WE'RE AT 13, BUT I WAS LOOKING BECAUSE, UM, I AM SEEING SOME SQUARES WHERE THE CAMERA IS NOT ON. UM, AND WE SEEM TO HAVE LOST, UH, A COUPLE OF TASKFORCE MEMBERS. IT'S FINE. WE'RE AT 13 IN FAVOR, HANDS DOWN, PLEASE. OKAY. NONE OPPOSED ANY ABSTAINING. OKAY. SO WE HAVE 13 IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED, AND FOR ABSTAINING AND THAT MOTION PASSES. I SEE. CAN I HAVE A FOR ABOUT MY SENSION? SO JUST WANTED ALL THE TASK FORCE TEAM MEMBERS TO KNOW THAT, UM, WE DEFINITELY FELT THE, FELT THE LOVE COME THROUGH ON THE RECOMMENDATION. AND, UH, SO MANY OF THEM, I ACTUALLY HAD MY TEAM LOOKING BEHIND THE SCENES AND SEE, UH, WHAT WORK GROUPS ACTUALLY HAD FUNDING, UH, POSITIONS ALLOCATED TOWARDS THE EQUITY OFFICE DIRECTLY. AND BECAUSE AS EXECUTIVES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST POLICY THAT WE HAVE TO ADHERE TO, BUT WE CAN'T TAKE VOTES FOR THINGS THAT SORT OF BENEFIT US DIRECTLY IN TERMS OF RESOURCES OR STAFFING. SO I'M ONLY ABSTAINING FOR THAT REASON, BUT DEFINITELY [02:50:01] FELL THE LOVE AND FELT THE ENERGY AND THE CREATIVITY TO RE-IMAGINE IT, ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND SUPER PROUD OF ALL THE WORK THAT THE WORK GROUPS HAVE DONE TONIGHT. THANK YOU, BRIAN. SO I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE, UM, WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE AGENDA. WE, UH, HAVE MISSED OUR BREAK WHERE, UM, WE'RE AT THREE MINUTES TO OUR PROJECTED ADJOURNMENT TIME. UM, WE HAVE, UH, AN AGENDA ITEM TO PREPARE, UM, AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE FORMAT AND LOGISTICS FOR THE APRIL 20TH MEETING AND ALSO, UM, TO ADDRESS THE DEMAND LETTER THAT WAS SENT BY A NUMBER OF, UH, TASK FORCE MEMBERS, UM, AND THEIR ORGANIZATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHICH NYDIA FORWARDED. UM, AND SO ALL OF THAT IS IN PLAY, UM, IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. SO I JUST WANT TO RAISE THAT, UM, AND YOU KNOW, LET'S TRY TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF TIME OF OUR INTERPRETERS OF THE FOLKS AT HOME, UM, AND BE AS EFFICIENT WITH OUR TIME AS POSSIBLE. AND WITH THAT, I'LL RECOGNIZE DAVID, THANK YOU, RC. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE AWARE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT JUST HAPPENED, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE CALLBACK TO WHAT YOU HAD SAID EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT ACTING IN GOOD FAITH AND OUR ACTING IN GOOD FAITH. AND WE WERE ACTING IN GOOD FAITH THAT THE WORKING GROUP THAT DEVELOPED THAT AROSE, THAT EVOLVED OUT OF OUR WORK IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE BUSINESS ASPECT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTEREST IN THIS CITY, ESPECIALLY AFTER OUR INITIAL AGREEMENT ON VALUES AND HOW WE WERE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER, WE REALLY THOUGHT WE WOULD GET OUT, GET SOMETHING IN RETURN. INSTEAD IT'S AS THOUGH THINGS HAVE BEEN TAKING TAKEN AWAY, WE'VE GIVEN OUR TIME AND OUR INTEREST IN OUR, IN OUR WISDOM, OUR BRILLIANCE. AND NOW WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR THERE TO BE A VACUUM IN DISTRICT IN THIS, IN THIS PROCESS WHERE WE FALL INTO THINKING THAT THE BUSINESS INTERESTS REPRESENTED BY THE GREATER AUSTIN CRIME COMMISSION OR, OR, AND WHOEVER ELSE ARE REFERENCE WERE REPRESENTED THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE NOW THROUGH THE WORKING GROUP THAT HAD NO RECOMMENDATIONS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, AS A TASK FORCE ARE PUTTING TIME AND EFFORT INTO FILLING THAT BOY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ABOLITION IS ABOUT, RIGHT? FILLING THAT BOY SO THAT WE, WE MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT BODY, A WORKING GROUP PUT TOGETHER, AT LEAST AS LONG AS THE TASK FORCE EXISTS, RIGHT. TO MAKE SURE THAT IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR VALUES AND WITH OUR HOLISTIC VIEW OF THINGS, THERE IS A WAY FOR BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN. AND IT NOT BE AT THE EXPENSE OF INDIVIDUALS YOU MANAGE, BECAUSE WHAT, BECAUSE THAT CANNOT BE, IT'S NOT SOME FALSE BINARY. WHAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING JUST BEEN VOTED OUT OF THE TASK FORCE, THAT CAN'T BE THE ONLY REPRESENTATION OF BUSINESS INTERESTS IN OFF. AND I DON'T, OR AT LEAST I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT THAT IS SO I'M JUST CALLING UPON MY FELLOW TASK FORCE MEMBER AND THE CITY OF THE HOLES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT SPACE IS STILL NOT SIMPLY LEFT TO BE AT 18, 18 EMPTY SPACE THAT THEY POINT TO AND SAY, SHE, THEY DIDN'T GIVE US OUR WAY. AND WE'RE THE VOICE OF BUSINESS, BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS THAT DO NOT VOICE OPINIONS LIKE THAT DO NOT BEHAVE OR SHOW UP IN THAT WAY. THANK YOU, DAVID. UM, I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE US TO MOVE INTO THE, UM, CONVERSATION ABOUT APRIL 20TH, UM, WITH THAT ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. UM, I SEE FILA, YOUR HAND IS UP. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY REAL QUICK, DAVID AND THE EQUITY RE-INVESTMENT WORKING GROUP PROPOSALS. WE DO HAVE SPECIFICS AROUND, UM, MICRO LOANS FOR BUSINESSES AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP THAT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, EQUITY RE-INVESTMENT. SO THERE IS SOME REPRESENTATION OF THAT IN THE TASK FORCE, UH, AND I'LL STOP TALKING CAUSE I KNOW WE GOTTA MOVE. THANK YOU, PAULA. I, UM, I DO WANT TO ASK AS YOUR FACILITATOR AND AS SOMEONE OUT OUTSIDE OF THIS PROCESS, I DO NOTICE, AND I, AND I WANT TO JUST ENCOURAGE US TO BE VERY EXPLICIT FOR WHAT IS NEEDED IN THE CONVERSATION. [02:55:02] I HAVE BEEN OPERATING UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE GROUP NEEDS TO MAKE DECISIONS TOGETHER THAT THIS IS THE SPACE WHERE YOU COMMUNICATE HOW TO JUST MOVE FORWARD, RIGHT IN THE PROCESS. UM, AND A FEW TIMES I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE HAVE VOTED ON THINGS THAT WEREN'T NECESSARILY MEETING A VOTE. UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE, LIKE, IF EVERYTHING IS SET UP FOR TUESDAY AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED AND IT'S GOING TO ROLL OUT AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GOING TO BE PREPARED AND SENT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, THEN LET'S NOT EXTEND A LOT OF TIME, UM, FOR A PROCESS THAT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY. UM, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THERE WAS DECISION MAKING THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN IN THIS BODY AROUND WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN MOVING FORWARD. SO RC, THERE ARE FEW THINGS THAT WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR TUESDAY FOR NEXT WEEK. UM, ONE IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO REQUEST THAT EVERYBODY GO INTO YOUR GOOGLE WORK GROUP TEMPLATE, UPDATE ALL OF YOUR FINAL CHANGES. I'M GOING TO SAY, UM, BY NOON TOMORROW WOULD BE IDEAL. SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE ALL OF THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE CAN PREPARE THOSE TO SEND TO THE CITY MANAGER AND TO SEND TO COUNSEL AHEAD OF TIME, UH, BEFORE THE TUESDAY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO NEED, UH, THE MEMBERS OF YOUR WORK GROUP WHO WILL PLAN ON PRESENTING AT THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION. UM, I DID NOT ASK FOR THIS ON THE FORM ORIGINALLY, BUT IF I COULD GET THE EMAIL ADDRESS FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL WORK GROUP MEMBERS THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTING AND WE'LL NEED, WE'LL NEED THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS. SO THAT WAY WE COULD SEND THEM THE LOGIN INFORMATION FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND WE'LL SEND THAT DIRECTLY TO THEM OR WE'LL NEED THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS. UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE LOGISTICAL PIECES AND, AND I'M GONNA SORT OF TURN IT THE FOLLOW UP BECAUSE WE ALSO HAD SOME PIECES WE WANTED TO DISCUSS ABOUT, UM, SORT OF THE FORMAT OF THE, OF THE PRESENTATIONS. UH, YEAH, WE CAN MAKE IT PRETTY QUICK. I THINK WE WANTED TO CONSENSE OF HOW WE WANT TO PRESENT, UH, UH, THE WAY THAT WE, WE ASKED CITY STAFF TO ALLOW ALL THE WORKING GROUP MEMBERS ATTEND ON TUESDAY NIGHT, JUST TASKFORCE AND THAT'S, UM, THAT WE GOT AN OKAY FOR THAT. THERE'S LIKE A VIRTUAL GREEN ROOM. SO WE WILL BE GOING WORKING GROUP BY WORKING GROUP, UH, W AND ALL THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE OTHER WORKING GROUPS WILL BE IN THE VIRTUAL GREEN ROOM UNTIL OUR WORKING GROUP GETS CALLED OUT AND WE CAN PRESENT, HOWEVER, EACH WORKING GROUP WANTS, UH, FOR THAT WE THOUGHT, DO WE WANT TO HAVE A UNIFORM KIND OF FORMAT? UH, EVERYBODY JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEIR, UH, FACES TALKING OR A POWERPOINT THAT EVERYBODY HAS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD DECIDE, UH, AND THEN POST RECOMMENDATIONS. SO WE ALL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. THEN WE THOUGHT WE'D WANT TO HAVE SOME TIME FOR Q AND A FROM COUNCIL AND DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. BUT THEN BEFORE THE END, WHY WE ASKED FOR EXTRA TIME WAS ALSO TO HAVE TIME TO DISCUSS THE PROCESS OF THE TASKFORCE, RIGHT. UM, INCLUDING THE DEMAND LETTER AND ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WANT, THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO REALLY SHARE WHAT HAS THIS MEANT TO US. UM, SO WE, WE JUST WANTED TO GET A SENSE FROM YOU ALL, AS WE DEVELOP THAT AGENDA. AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RC ON TUESDAY, UM, TO FACILITATE THAT PROCESS FOR US. UH, HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT WORK GROUP BY WORK GROUP FIRST? ANYBODY? UH, I GUESS MY PROPOSAL WAS BRIAN. WE THOUGHT MAYBE NOT A POWERPOINT, BUT THAT WE JUST PRESENT. UM, SO THEY SEE ALL OF OUR FACES, BUT WE COULD THEN LATER SEND THEM SLIDES, POSTS. UH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE WRITTEN RECOMMENDATIONS. SO LET ME PAUSE THERE. PROPOSAL WORK GROUP BY WORK GROUP, WITHOUT POWERPOINTS WITH, YOU KNOW, [03:00:01] US LOOKING AT THEM. HOW DOES THAT SOUND? WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE, BUT JUST GIVE ME A TEMPERATURE FACE CHECK. SOUNDS GOOD. I THINK MAKE THE POWERPOINT OPTIONAL. UM, SOME WORK GROUPS HAVE A LOT LESS RECOMMENDATIONS THAN OTHERS, UM, THAT ARE SUPER DIRECT. AND LIKE YOU'VE MENTIONED, UM, I THINK INTERPRETERS CAN GO OFF OF THE WRITTEN DOCUMENTS THAT WE ALREADY PROVIDED. UM, JUST NAMING, BECAUSE THERE, THERE ARE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE QUITE THANKFULLY AND CREATING A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION FOR THAT WOULD BE SUPER TIME CONSUMING. UM, SO JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE THAT JUST MAKE IT OPTIONAL. IF YOU DO HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, SEND IT, JUST LET US KNOW TO WHOM WE NEED TO SEND IT. UM, WE WRITE, IS IT GOING TO BE A DCA DEAN, UM, UM, OR WHO WITHIN CITY STAFF, WE NEED TO SEND A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY ASK THAT THAT BE MADE, UM, OPTIONAL AND NOT MANDATORY, JUST A CAVEAT ON THE PRESENTATION. AND I CAN ASK THE STAFF TO SORT OF CHIME IN, BUT BECAUSE COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE, ARE MEETING SUBJECT TO SORT OF OPEN RECORDS FOR THE PUBLIC DOCUMENTATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AHEAD OF TIME. AND OUR DEADLINES, UM, COULD BE AS EARLY AS FRIDAY FOR THAT. BUT IS THERE SOMEONE FROM STAFF WHO CAN KIND OF GIVE ME WHAT THE, WHAT THE LATEST SORT OF DEADLINE TO SUBMIT MATERIAL TO COUNCIL WOULD BE? WE ARE CHECKING ON THAT, BRIAN, I BELIEVE IT'S FRIDAY AFTERNOON AS WELL. ALTHOUGH THERE ARE TIMES THAT THINGS GO IN AND THE END OF BACKUP, BUT THE EARLIER WE HAVE IT, THE BETTER OFF IT WILL BE FOR OUR INTERPRETERS AS WELL. SO WE ARE TRYING TO CHECK THAT AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A CONFIRMATION. OKAY. OKAY. SO BASED ON WHAT ALICIA SAID, HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT PRESENTING WITHOUT POWERPOINTS? JUST NOT DOING IT WITH A POWERPOINT, ANYBODY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? UM, THIS IS DAVID. UH, I, I, I, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, BOTH FOR BOTH THE CONTROL AND SURVEILLANCE WORKING GROUP AND FOR THE CITIZENS WORKING GROUP PRESENTATIONS IMPORTANT IN CONVEYING THE MESSAGE TO BACK. OKAY. SO I'D TAKE AMANDA. I THINK THE POWERPOINT WOULD MORE SO BE FOR US TO GET THROUGH ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDATION THAN 20 MINUTES. UM, BUT I'M OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE, IF, IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S NOT THE BEST WAY TO CONVEY, BUT THAT WOULD BE KIND OF WHAT OUR WORKING GROUP HAS BEEN DISCUSSING. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT WE CAN GO BACK TO OPTIONAL. SOME WORKING GROUPS CAN USE A POWERPOINT. UM, IF THEY KNOW THAT'S GOING TO HELP GET THEIR MESSAGE ACROSS AND OTHERS WON'T, BUT THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM ALL IN BY THE END OF THE DAY FRIDAY, WHICH IS TOMORROW. DOES THAT SEEM OKAY, AMANDA? NO. WELL, MAKE IT HAPPEN. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THAT, SO WILL BE A MIXED, UH, MIXED TYPES OF PRESENTATIONS, WHICH IS FINE. UH, THEN AFTER ALL THE PRESENTATIONS WE'LL HAVE A CHUNK OF TIME FOR Q AND A AND DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND THEN WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER CHUNK OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE OVERALL PROCESS. DOES EVERYONE FEEL OKAY WITH THAT? AND WE TRUST RC TO DEVELOP THE ACTUAL TIMING FOR THAT AGENDA, LOOKING AT YOUR FACES. YEAH, THAT SEEM OKAY. OKAY. UH, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S IT THEN, RIGHT. BRIAN, WE JUST WOULD NEED EVERYBODY TO FINALIZE THEIR RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU PUT IN TODAY BY NOON, IF THERE'S ANY TWEAKS BY TOMORROW AT NOON. UM, AND THEN EVERYTHING WILL BE SENT TO COUNCIL. AND I GUESS TO ME, ONE OF THE GOOD PARTS IS I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD READ ALL OF THEM AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT WHEN WE GET THERE ON TUESDAY, THEY'VE ALREADY KIND OF VERSED IN, UH, WHAT THEY ARE. AND SO WE CAN GET INTO MORE SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION. I WILL STOP TALKING. YEAH. ANYTHING ELSE, BRIAN? OH, I REMEMBERED. AND ALSO BECAUSE OF WHAT WE ALL ASKED FOR, THERE WILL BE INTERPRETATION, NOT JUST SPANISH LANGUAGE, BUT MULTIPLE LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION. AND I THINK ASL, ALICIA, DO YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THANKS TO YOU, ALICIA DEAN. YES. WE WILL HAVE ALL OF THAT. AND IT'S ACTUALLY THANKS TO OUR AMAZING LANGUAGE [03:05:01] ACCESS TEAM. I WANT TO GIVE THEM PROPER CREDIT FOR ARRANGING ALL OF THAT. WE, OUR LANGUAGE LINE, SO THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE AND IT WILL BE LIVE STREAM. SO IT WILL BE AVAILABLE ON ATX N.TV. IT'LL BE AVAILABLE ON OUR FACEBOOK STREAM, UM, AND AVAILABLE ON CHANNEL SIX ON PEOPLE'S LOCAL CABLE PROVIDERS, WE'LL BE SENDING SOME INFORMATION TO THE TASK FORCE, UM, THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH YOUR NETWORKS TO HELP. UM, SORRY. UH, WE'LL HAVE LIVE CAPTIONS, WE'LL HAVE, UM, CLOSED CAPTIONING, NOT ASL. SO WE HAVE ROBUST CLOSED CAPTIONING. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE TRANSLATION, EXCUSE ME, INTERPRETATION SERVICES IN ALL OF THE, UM, PRIORITY LANGUAGES THAT WE'VE BEEN USING THAT WE USED ON SATURDAY. UM, AND WE WILL SEND YOU SOME MESSAGING, UM, TO SHARE THAT WITH YOUR NETWORKS AND SEND THAT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. AND WE ALSO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TRANSLATED IN ALL OF THOSE LANGUAGES. SO YOU CAN SHARE THOSE WITH YOUR, UM, UM, MEMBERS, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN YOUR NETWORK. THANK YOU SO MUCH, ALICIA. OKAY. UH, BRIAN, ANY LAST, ANY OTHER THING? NO, JUST THANK EVERYBODY FOR ALL THE HARD WORK. AND, UM, IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY, BUT WE DID IT Y'ALL WE GOT RECOMMENDATIONS. AND SO I'M JUST SO EXCITED ABOUT, UM, TUESDAY AND JUST ALL OF THE BEAUTIFUL WORK THAT EVERYONE HAS DONE. SO, UM, I JUST THINK BACK WHEN WE FIRST STARTED FOR OUR FIRST MEETING BACK IN AUGUST AND, UH, AND HOW FAR WE COME. SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY. THANK YOU, BRIAN. UM, AND I JUST WANT TO DO A FINAL QUICK PASS THAT THERE WAS NO RESPONSE TO THE DEMAND LETTER AND WE ARE, I AM GOING TO INCLUDE AT THE END, IN THE AGENDA, A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PROCESS, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. UM, I AM DROPPING A LINK AS EVER TO OUR MEETING EVALUATION, UM, IN THE CHAT FOR PANELISTS AND ATTENDEES. UM, MY APOLOGIES THAT I DID NOT MAKE THAT EVALUATION AVAILABLE TO ATTENDEES LAST WEEK. UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY, OH, ALICIA, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP. SORRY ABOUT THAT. GO AHEAD. YES. AND I DEFINITELY WANT TO RESPECT AND HONOR THE WAY THAT YOU TRY TO PUSH US RIGHT. TO BE KIND TO OURSELVES AND THE TIMING. UM, HOWEVER I CAN NOT ENGRISH SAFE. UM, YOU KNOW, I AM NOT TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE HERE, BUT I DO. THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT IS VERY PRESSING THAT I NEED TO BRING THAT IS OF CONSEQUENCE TO ALL OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, AND SO I WANT TO, I WANTED TO ACTUALLY PROPOSE, UM, A, ANOTHER VOTE INDEPENDENT OF OUR ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, AND, UH, IF I MAY, SO I CAN BE, UM, QUICK IN, IN, IN NAMING THAT, AND I WILL HOPE THAT OTHER TASK FORCE MEMBERS, UM, COULD, COULD JUST FOLLOW, IS IT OKAY IF I JUST, UH, NAME IT? SO, UM, MAYBE SOME OF, UM, FOLKS, UM, SOME OF THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS HERE ARE AWARE OR NOT AWARE, BUT, UM, AFTER OUR PRESENTATION ON AUGUST 20TH, SO THAT WILL BE A TUESDAY, THERE WILL BE A MEETING ON AUGUST 22ND, UM, IRREGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN WHICH I WILL SPEAK SLOWER IN WHICH THEY WILL BE, UM, APRIL, I'M SORRY, APRIL. I DUNNO WHAT MY, THEY SAID, I DUNNO WHERE I LIVE. UM, YEAH, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER, SO WE WILL BE PRESENTING ON TUESDAY, UM, APRIL 20TH AND THEN JUST TWO DAYS AFTER THAT ON APRIL 22ND, A THURSDAY, WHICH WILL BE A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. UM, THEY WILL BE VOTING, UM, CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ADDRESSING AND VOTING ON MID BUDGET, UM, ITEMS, RIGHT. IN ONE OF THOSE, UM, MID BUDGET ITEMS THAT THEY WILL BE VOTING ON. AND I JUST I'M TALKING ABOUT WILL BE THE ACTUALLY CONSIDERING, UM, WE GIVEN BACK, UM, UH, MONEY, UM, INTO THE APD BUDGET BASED ON SOME MOVEMENT OF APD, UM, POSITIONS. RIGHT. UM, SO SOME POSITIONS WHERE WE'RE REMOVED FROM, UH, FROM THE APD, UM, FROM BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY ARE, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, REMOVAL OR THAT RESIGNATION OF POSITIONS, UM, THERE SEEMS TO BE A MOVE, UM, OR A VOTE ON THE TABLE TO PUT, UM, UH, MONEY THAT HAD BEEN, YOU KNOW, UM, TAKEN OUT AND PUT INTO THE RE-IMAGINED PROCESS TO BE GIVEN BACK, UM, TO APD BUDGET. UM, I THINK THAT, UM, IT'S, IT'S, DOESN'T SEEM TO BE IN A MOVE IN GOOD FAITH. UM, RIGHT. AND SO ALSO IN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ACTUALLY IS BEING [03:10:01] VOTED ON, UH, AND IN TRYING TO SEE IF ALL THE THINGS THAT, UM, THE, BOTH, WHAT COULD BE DECOUPLED, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS IN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND CITY BUDGETS, UM, THE MID YEAR BUDGET BECAME A LITTLE ENTANGLED IN MY HEAD. SO I WANTED TO ALSO ASK IF THERE'S FOR THE CITY TO DEVELOP AN ACTUAL ACCESSIBLE INFOGRAPHIC, I'M A VISUAL LEARNER. SO IF AN INFOGRAPHIC UNJUST, THE ACTUAL, HOW, YOU KNOW, THE MID-BUDGET IS, IS, IS HAPPENING WITH LITTLE ARROWS, THIS IS THE POT OF MONEY THAT WE HAD. THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING. THIS IS THE VOTES THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN, RIGHT. UH, BECAUSE SOMEHOW IT SEEMS NOW THAT WE HAVE LESS MONEY THAN WHAT WE STARTED WITH. SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT MONEY? YOU KNOW, UM, SO I'M, I WANT TO PROPOSE A VOTE, UM, AS A TASK FORCE THAT WE, THAT WE TAKE A COLLECTIVE TASK FORCE VOTE FOR ASKING CITY COUNCIL, UM, TO NOT GIVE, UH, MONEY IN, PARTICULARLY IN, EVEN IN THE YEAR BUDGET, UM, TO NOT PUT IT BACK INTO THE, INTO THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT. UH, I'M KIND OF THINKING ON MY, MY HEAD ON MY FEET HEARING NOW, IF ANYBODY COULD HELP WITH, UM, WITH BETTER WORDING, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW THE AGENDA ITEM, I BELIEVE THIS AGENDA ITEM 20, BUT NOT SUPER SURE ON THAT RIGHT NOW. SO MAYBE JUST, UH, HOLD ON. UM, AGENDA ITEM, UM, 20TH, I AGENDA ITEM 20, NOT ON, ON THE WHOLE, UM, ITEM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS ON THERE, BUT JUST THIS ONE LINE, RIGHT. UM, WHERE THEY'RE THINKING OF GIVING THIS MONEY BACK, UM, AND THEN ALSO ATTACHING THAT INFOGRAPHIC BECAUSE I NEED IT THERE'S BEEN A MOTION AND NORDEA. I WAS JUST GOING TO PUT UP A POINT OF CLARITY THAT STAFF WAS WORKING ON AN INFOGRAPHIC AS PART OF THAT, A PRESENTATION ON WHAT IS BEING DECOUPLED AND THOSE MOVEMENTS, BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE HAD TO MOVE WITH COUNCILS. SO KNOW THAT THAT PORTION OF IT WILL BE MOVING FORWARD AS WELL. THE INTRO, BECAUSE MOVING FORWARD, YEAH, THEY WERE LOOKING ON HOW TO DESCRIBE THAT AND DEPICTED. AND AS SOON AS I HAVE THAT PRESENTATION, I WILL HAPPILY SEND THAT TO THE TASK FORCE. TAKE YOUR TIME. CAN YOU HEAR ME? SORRY ABOUT THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH MY ZOOM. UM, SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION ON, UH, NURIA, IF YOU'RE BUILDING SOME KIND OF AN INFOGRAPHIC, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHATTER ABOUT, UH, ATTRITION BEING HIGHER THAN, UM, PREDICTED WHEN THE BUDGET WAS PUT TOGETHER LAST YEAR. AND FOR MY, YOU KNOW, VIEW, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE ATTRITION REALLY IS BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WHY THIS MONEY IS GETTING MOVED BACK TO APD IS TO COVER THE COST OF STAFF. THAT'S BEING MOVED BACK TO APD OUT OF THE RE-IMAGINED UNITS THAT ARE BEING EMPTIED. AND THOSE GUYS ARE GOING BACK TO PATROL. UM, IF THERE HAS BEEN ATTRITION, UH, TO ANYTHING LIKE THE DEGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE READ ABOUT IN THE NEWSPAPERS, I WOULD EXPECT THAT APD CAN COVER THE COST OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GOING BACK TO PATROL. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. SO I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE PATH OF THE BODIES, THE PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS MANY PEOPLE LEFT, THIS WAS THE ATTRITION THAT WE ACTUALLY EXPECTED. THIS IS THE AMOUNT WE ACTUALLY HAVE GOTTEN. THIS IS THE SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M HAVING TROUBLE BELIEVING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TAKE THAT 6.9 MILLION AND ALLOCATE IT TO THE RE-IMAGINED THINGS THAT ARE IN THOSE BUCKETS, OR ACTUALLY KIND OF PART OF WHAT THIS TASK FORCE IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. [03:15:01] IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE AT ALL. IT DOES OUR C WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO RESPOND PLEASE? UH, I APPRECIATE THAT, KATHY. I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. I THINK I WILL CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT IT WITH FINANCE AND WITH APB AND, UH, UH, ACM ARIANA IS ALSO, UH, LISTENING TO SEE, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED FOR THAT. IF THAT WERE THE CASE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS WORKING BECAUSE THERE WERE OTHER PARTS OF THE DECOUPLING THAT ARE SEPARATE FROM THAT PORTION. BUT I GET YOUR QUESTION, UM, SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE PORTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT TO PATROL AND THE RE STAFFING, UH, OR THE REALLOCATION OF STAFF, UH, AND THE WHY FOR THAT. SO I WILL CERTAINLY PASS THAT ON AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. KAY. DID YOU WANT TO SPECIFY WHEN, UM, CLARIFICATION YOU WERE LOOKING? SURE. I WAS, UH, TO ALICIA'S POINT THE ITEM NUMBER 20 IS INCREDIBLY CONFUSING, AND I WAS HOPING YOU COULD OFFER SOME CLARITY NOW, NORIA TO EXPLAIN WHAT FUNDS ARE COMING FROM, THE REIMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY FUND, WHERE AND WHY IT'S GOING BACK TO APD. FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE WORKED HOURS AND HOURS ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, I WOULD AT LEAST APPRECIATE AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THURSDAY. AND, UH, I'LL TRY TO DO A HIGH LEVEL CAUSE I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME. AND, UM, ACM, ARIANA, LET ME KNOW IF I'VE GOTTEN ANYTHING WRONG, BUT THERE ARE AGAIN, AS WE ARE IN, IN, IN THE MID YEAR OF THE REQUESTS FROM COUNCIL TO COME BACK MID BUDGET TO SORT OF SAY, WHAT ELSE NEEDS TO MOVE? YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH ARE SOME OF THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE THINGS THAT ARE MOVING. YOU WILL SEE, UH, SOME OF THE DECOUPLING OF EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, BUT AS PART OF THE WORK. AND THIS IS PART OF A DIFFERENT RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS PUT FORWARD ABOUT, UM, BUILDING UP APDS, A BUDGET FROM THE GROUND UP AND DOING ZERO-BASED BUDGETING. THEY HAD TO LOOK INTO WHAT THEIR NEEDS WERE AND AS THEY WERE LOOKING TOWARDS WHAT, WHERE THEIR STAFF IS NOW THE REASSIGNMENTS OF, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FOLKS THAT WERE, UH, PREVIOUSLY IN A PARKS, UH, PATROL DIVISION, LET'S SAY, AS THEY HAVE BEEN MOVED TO PATROL, THEN THOSE MONIES GO WITH THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE IS NO BACK MONIES, RIGHT? IF THEY'RE NO LONGER DOING A RENO DESIGNEE, IF THEY ARE NO LONGER DESIGNATED AS PARK POLICE, THEIR SALARIES STILL CONTINUE TO GO WITH THEM. SAME THING FOR, AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD. WE STILL CONTINUE TO PAY THE MOUNTED POLICE UNIT, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT MADE AS A, AS A GROUP OR AS NOW THE COUNCIL A DETERMINATION ON WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THE MOUNTED BELIEFS. SO THOSE MONIES ARE CONTINUED TO BE USED, RIGHT? SO THERE ARE A SERIES OF ADDITIONAL, ANYTIME STAFF WAS SENT BACK TO PATROL, TO BACKFILL FOR SOME OF THOSE, UH, EITHER ATTRITION OR VACANCIES, UM, THAT MONEY TRAVELS WITH THEM. AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY? RAY, THAT IS A VERY GOOD, UM, HIGH-LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S HAPPENING, UH, THAT THE HAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, DETAILED THAT EVEN I AM NOT AS WELL VERSED TO TALK TO YOU AND, AND BUDGET OFFICE WOULD BE THE ONES THAT REALLY TALK TO THAT. BUT MY COMMITMENT TO YOU ALL IS AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT, UM, GRAPHIC OR THAT PRESENTATION, WHICH WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE, UM, SHORTLY WHEN THAT IS READY, WE WILL SEND THAT TO YOU DIRECTLY AS WELL. AND, UH, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HAVE THAT DETAIL THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR. THAT IS JUST ALLUDING ME AT THE MOMENT. JESSICA, DID YOU WANT TO ASK YOUR, UM, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION THAT ALICIA MADE. AND SO I JUST WROTE IT OUT TO SEE IF THAT WAS AN ACCURATE REFLECTION OF, OF WHAT SHE WAS ASKING FOR, IF I CAN JUST RESPOND TO THAT REALLY QUICK. UM, RC. SO THE FIRST PART, UM, THE, THE MOTION, UM, OR DO YOU THINK IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ENSURE THE REIMAGINED FUNDS DEDICATED TO RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TASK FORCE AND NOT APD? UM, YES. UM, I AM, THAT IS ONE, BUT THE SECOND ONE, RIGHT. AND IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH JUST, UM, WHAT CITY STAFF IS OFFERING RIGHT NOW. UM, KIND OF LEAVES ME IN THE SAME PLACE. YOU KNOW, I, I DIDN'T GET ANY NEW, NEW DETAILS, WHAT MY, IN MY, IN THE SECOND FOR CLARIFICATION, THE SECOND, UH, WHAT I WAS, THE SECOND PROPOSAL THAT I HAD MADE ON US VOTING RIGHT NOW IS FOR CITY COUNCIL TO NOT, UH, BECAUSE WHAT I BELIEVE I HEARD IS THAT MONEY WILL FOLLOW PEOPLE. SO YES, IT'S STILL SENSE MONEY IS GOING BACK INTO THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE [03:20:01] WE ARE, UH, PRETTY AND FOLKS GOING FROM THE PARK PATROL. AND NOW THEY'RE BECOMING, UM, LIKE, UH, PATROL, RIGHT. ACTUAL POLICE PATROL. AND SO, UM, I ADDED SCORE, YOU KNOW, UM, THIS, THIS TASK FORCE HAS BEEN LIKE CHARGED WITH WHAT OTHER WAYS OF THINKING OF THINKING ABOUT EXPANDING LIKE SAFETY, RIGHT? AND SO IT JUST DOESN'T, IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY, UM, CIRCUMVENTED, LIKE INTENTIONAL WAY OF JUST WE'RE MOVING MONEY HERE AND THERE, RIGHT. JUST, WE COULD VERY EASILY THEN SAY THE MOUNTED PATROL WHEN I REALLY CAN, UH, REMOVE THEM, RIGHT. LIKE IF THEY SAY SERVE NO PURPOSE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO PUT THEM INCREASE THE POLICE FORCE AND THEN JUST THAT MONEY WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THEM. SO NOT REALLY GIVEN THE TASK FORCE AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THAT MONEY FOR ANY OF OUR ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS. AND IF THAT IS HAPPENING, THEN WE NEED TO BE HONEST ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THEN IT REALLY GOING TO LIMIT ANY POSSIBLE RECOMMENDATION, ALTERNATIVE, NON POLICING, CENTRAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT AS A TASK FORCE WE HAVE MADE. AND I, AND I WANT THE CITY TO BE HONEST, THIS IS THAT A TRUE POSSIBILITY THAT CAN HAPPEN. RIGHT. UM, AND SO THE, THE SECOND ONE WAS ACTUALLY ASKING TO MAKE A VOTE. SO THAT CITY COUNCIL KNOWS THAT WE ARE AWARE THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM IS ON, ON THEIR MEETING A DAY AFTER OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY TAKE INTENT B, BE INTENTIONAL WITH THE TIMING, INTAKE, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, READ THEM, READ THEM, PROCESSES THEM ACTUALLY SEE WHAT IS POSSIBLE AND NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH CONTINUING TO PUT MORE MONEY BY TAKING MONEY FROM THE REIMAGINING, UM, FUND INTO OR ANY FUNDS, RIGHT. MONEY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN REMOVED BACK INTO APD. UM, I HOPE THAT THAT, UM, BROUGHT SOME CLARITY JESSICA, TO YOUR QUESTION. OKAY. YEAH. I WOULD JUST EVEN LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT, UH, THAT IS WELL THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOGIC TO FOLLOWING THE PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER LOGIC, WHICH IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THIS MONEY WAS FROM THE PARKS PATROL AND THAT PARTICULAR MIGRATION, THEN WHAT YOU HAVE IS A FUNCTION THAT PRESUMABLY WAS BEING DONE BY POLICE IN PARKS THAT WE ARE NO LONGER DOING, OR WE'RE NOT DOING IT IN A WAY THAT SORT OF FITS INTO A PARKS WITH MINDSET. UM, SO EQUALLY WE ARE TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM PARKS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WAY TO SORT OF THINK ABOUT HOW THIS REALLOCATION IS, WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE INVESTING IN A PARTICULAR KIND OF POLICING WITHOUT REALLY THINKING ABOUT THE SERVICE THAT THAT DEPARTMENT WAS USING THAT STAFFING FOR BEFORE AND NOT OFFERING THAT DEPARTMENT, THOSE RESOURCES AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SORT OF THE RE-IMAGINED GROUP, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND THERE'S ALSO LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS AT THE VERY END THAT PARKS IS JUST GOING TO HAVE TO FIND ITS OWN MONEY. IT WAS JUST KIND OF AN ODD PLACE TO LAND, I GUESS. SO THANK YOU, KATHY. I'M GOING TO JUST NOTE THAT IT'S NINE O'CLOCK. WE ARE GOING, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM ELISIA, UM, THAT HAS TWO PARTS THAT HAS BEEN CLARIFIED. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THIS MOTION, KATHY SECONDS? THE MOTION CAN WE VOTE, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD? UH, ALL IN FAVOR. I I'M SORRY. I'M I KNOW YOU'RE COUNTING HANDS, BUT I'M COUNTING HANDS AND YOU, SO YOU'RE PLUS ONE, I DIDN'T RAISE MY HAND. I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHAT THE MOTION IS. THE MOTION IS TWO PARTS. IT IS TWO IT'S IN THE CHAT, UM, TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT CITY COUNCIL ENSURE THE RE-IMAGINED FUND IS DEDICATED TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TASK FORCE AND NOT TO APD. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS FOR AN INFOGRAPHIC, BUT ALSO MORE BROADLY [03:25:01] AN EXPLANATION OF THE EFFORT THAT, UM, IS OUTLINED IN THIS ITEM 20, UH, AN EXPLANATION FROM THE COUNCIL TO THE TASK FORCE OF WHAT THOSE FUNDS ARE AND HOW THEY ARE BEING MOVED. IS THAT CORRECTLY? GREAT. THANK YOU. SO THAT IS THE VOTE AND WE ARE EIGHT IN FAVOR NINE, 10. OKAY. I'M LOOKING FOR ANY PHYSICAL HANDS. OKAY. SO WE HAVE 10 IN FAVOR, HANDS DOWN, PLEASE. MONICA, CAN YOU PUT YOUR HAND UP? THERE WE GO. UM, ALL OPPOSED. THERE IS NO OPPOSITION, ANY ABSTENTIONS, FIVE ABSTAINING, SIX ABSTAINING, LAST CALL ON ABSTAINING. OKAY. THE MOTION PASSES. OKAY. UM, AND SO WITH THAT, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE OUR MEETING FOR THE EVENING. UM, WE WILL BE RECONVENING TO PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL ON TUESDAY, APRIL 20TH AT 2:00 PM CENTRAL TIME. ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM OUR CO-CHAIRS? THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO REDRAW THE MEETING EVALUATION FOR TONIGHT, PLEASE. UM, WE'VE GOTTEN VERY LOW RESPONSES. YOU CAN FILL THIS OUT ANYTIME, BUT NOW IS A GREAT TIME WHILE THE INFORMATION IS FRESH. ALL OF THIS INFORMATION WILL COME BACK TO THE TASK FORCE, UM, SO THAT YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE MEETINGS, UM, AND ALL OF THIS FEEDBACK. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, I WILL, VALERIE, IF YOU HAVE ANY CLOSING, WELL, THAT'S IT. UM, THIS CONCLUDES THE APRIL 15TH MEETING OF THE RE-IMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY TASK FORCE. I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO SEND MANY THANKS OUT TO YOU, THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION, AND FOR STICKING WITH US, DO THIS MEETING EITHER VIA ZOOM OR ON FACEBOOK LIVE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU. STAYING WITH US. RECORDINGS WILL BE POSTED TO THE RPS WEBSITE WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE. THAT WEBSITE IS AUSTIN, TEXAS, THAT GOV SLASH PUBLIC SAFETY SLASH TASK DASH FOR US. SO THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS AND THE CO-CHAIRS FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK TONIGHT, AS WELL AS THE CONVERSATION FACILITATOR ARE SEEING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING US ON TRACK AND BIG THANKS TO MY PRODUCTION CREW AND THE INTERPRETERS. IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE SERVING THE COMMUNITY WITH YOU TONIGHT. GREAT JOB EVERYONE TONIGHT, INTERPRETERS. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.