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[CALL TO ORDER]
THE AUSTIN HISTORY LANDMARK COMMISSION.I LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
I'LL CALL THE ROLE JERRY MYERS.
KEVIN COOK IS HERE FOR A LITTLE RUSH.
WOULD YOU PLEASE SAY HEY SO WE CAN HAVE IT ON THE RECORD.
THANK YOU, SALLY LIDL, RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY YOU'RE HERE FOR THE RECORD.
BLAKE TO LET HERE BETH FELONS.
I CAN'T WIT ARE YOU HERE? YOU'RE HERE.
WE HAVE TWO NEW MEMBERS, UH, TONIGHT, CARLA RUSSIA'S WITH US.
UM, AND HE HAS TAKEN THE BOTH OF US.
DOES WE HAVE ALSO WE'LL HAVE ANESSA CASTILLO AND, UM, I DON'T THINK SHE'S SET YET, BUT SHE MIGHT BE LISTENING IN.
SO IF YOU ARE A WELCOME TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS COMMUNICATION TONIGHT? IS THERE ANYONE, UM, ON THE LINE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? NOT ON THE AGENDA.
MADAM CHAIR, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE REGISTERED FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.
UM, I'D LIKE TO, FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE LINE, WHO ARE LISTENING IN, WHAT WE WILL DO IS GO THROUGH THE AGENDA TO IDENTIFY WHICH, UM, CASES, UH, WILL GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
IF YOUR CASE GOES ON THE IS APPROVED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, UM, IT'S OVER, IT'S BEEN APPROVED.
IF SOMEONE PULLS IT, IF IT WAS OFFERED FOR CONSENT, SOMEONE PULLS IT.
UH, ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION, MAPLE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION.
IF THEY'RE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, YOU CAN JUST PULL THOSE AND WE'LL, AND WE'LL TAKE THEM IN THE ORDER THAT THEY COME UP OUR PROCEDURE.
UM, AND IS THAT ONCE WE'VE READ THROUGH THE AGENDA, WE WILL TAKE THE CASES, UH, CASE BY CASE AND HAVE SPEAKERS SPEAK TO THEM.
YOU WILL BE, WE WILL TAKE ALL OF THE SPEAKERS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY TAKE UP THE CASES.
SO IF YOU HAVE A CASE ON THE AGENDA, YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO IT.
IT MAY COME UP FOR A WHILE, SO PLEASE STAY ON THE, ON THE LINE AND, UH, AND WE WILL GET TO YOUR CASE AND I'LL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
THE FIRST ITEM APPROVAL OF MINUTES WILL BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[Consent Agenda: B1, B4, B6, C1, C2, C3, C4, C5, C6, C7, C8, C9, D4, D6, D8, D9, D11, E1, F1, ]
TONIGHT.WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE FORMER THREADGILL'S RESTAURANT AT 64 16 NORTH LAMAR.
THAT'S A PRESENTATION TO US ITEM TO BE AS A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION IN RESPONSE TO A NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.
NOMINATION FOR THE THIRD STREET, RAILROAD TRESTLE POUNSTONE IS A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT, A CLG AND NOMINATIONS TO NATIONAL REGISTER PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS, UH, GO TO, UM, GO TO THE STAFF, BUT THEY'RE ALSO, I BELIEVE, SUPPOSED TO COME TO THE, TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AND WE HAVE NOT BEEN DOING THIS IN THE PAST.
SO TONIGHT IS THE FIRST CASE WHERE WE WILL HAVE, UH, A, UM, POTENTIAL LISTING IN AUSTIN THAT WILL COME BEFORE US TONIGHT AND GET THREE PUBLIC MEETINGS ITEM A ONE 53 12 SHOAL CREEK BOULEVARD.
THE CANALS, THAT'S AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION ITEM D DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS.
THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM THERE.
THE FIRST ITEM UNDER A WILL BE CONSIDERATION FOR, UM, HISTORIC LANDMARK STATUS B AS AN APPLICATION, UH, JUMPING RIGHT AHEAD HERE, UM, TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY.
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NUMBER B TWO NINE OH SEVEN, 909 AND NINE 11 CONGRESS AVENUE.THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE.
UM, BUT WE WILL HAVE, UM, DISCUSSION THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM, B3, 1501 NORTHWOOD ROAD.
THAT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM BEFORE 1419 NOONAN AVENUE.
THAT'S A CONSENT ITEM AS A REQUEST TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO HISTORIC LANDMARK, BE FIVE, SIX, 12 HIGHLAND AVENUE.
THAT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM B SIX 43 14 AVENUE F IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA UNLESS SOMEONE PULLS IT.
THE SEVEN 1910 MAPLE AVENUE IS CONSENT AGENDA UNDER SEA DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS WITH THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS C1 1007 MALFORMED RIGHT, IS A CONSENT ITEM.
C2 1104, 20TH STREET IS A CONSENT ITEM.
C3 41 13 LOWOOD ROAD IS A CONSENT ITEM.
WOODLAWN IS ALSO A CONSENT ITEM.
DON'T GET THE FEELING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DONE SOON BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THESE CONSENT ITEMS WE HAVE PLENTY TO DO TONIGHT.
SEE FIVE 17, 10 MOLLY DRIVE IS CONSENT.
C6 16, 11 WEST 10TH STREET IS A CONSENT ITEM.
C7 1816 WEST 11TH IS ALSO CONSENT.
LET'S SEE A 1003, MEL FREE IS ALSO CONSENT.
13, 14 WESTOVER ROAD IS ON THE CONSENT ITEM.
CONSENT AGENDA, 1201 INFIELD ROAD IS ALSO CONSENT UNDER D DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR DEMOLITION OR RELOCATION.
D ONE 1601 BRECKENRIDGE STREET.
D TWO FIVE OH THREE ANNIE STREET DISCUSSION D THREE 47 14 ROWENA STREET.
THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT D FOUR 1308 TRAVEL SITES.
THAT'S A CONSENT ITEM UNLESS SOMEONE PULLS UP THE FIVE, 1304, BOB HARRISON.
THAT'S A DISCUSSION ITEM, D SIX, EIGHT OH THREE WEST JAMES STREET CONSENT.
CESAR CHAVEZ IS DISCUSSION ITEM DA 1000 ATKINSON ROAD IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
BRACKENRIDGE STREET IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.
NINE OH SEVEN WAS 22ND AND A HALF STREET IS A DISCUSSION ITEM D 11 FIVE OH SEVEN.
LELAND STREET IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
D 12 NINE OH FIVE EAST SECOND STREET IS DISCUSSION GOING ON TO ITEM E DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.
I'M DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT CASES, HE WON THE SEBRING SNEAD HOUSE AT 1801.
GNOMES DRIVE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT TO REMAIN ON THE, ON OUR AGENDA FOR FUTURE ACTION ITEM F DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR TAX ABATEMENT OR REHABILITATION OF A PROPERTY IN A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IS 1910 MAPLE AVENUE.
THEN WE HAVE COMMISSION AND STAFF ITEMS THAT WE WILL DISCUSS OFF.
WE HAVE OFFICER ELECTIONS IN ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, COMMISSIONERS LISTENERS.
ARE THERE ANY PROPERTIES, ANY CASES THAT I SAID WERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT ANYONE WANTS TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION MADAM CHAIR, I NEED TO OFFER A REVISION.
UM, I SEE 10, 1201 AND FIELD ROAD.
UH, WE HAVE A SPEAKER REGISTERED IN OPPOSITION TO THAT CASE, SO THAT ONE NEEDS TO BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.
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SEE, 10, 1201 INFIELD THAT WE'RE TAKING IT OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA.AND THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM OR THE SEVEN WEEKS LIKE CONSIDERATION TO INCLUDE THE SKYLIGHT.
FOUR B SEVEN 1910 MAPLE AVENUE.
WE'D LIKE CONSIDERATION TO INCLUDE THE SKYLIGHTS AND THEN APPROVAL.
THAT CAN BE APPROVED ON CONSENT.
I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID THIS WHEN I WAS READING IT CONSENT EXCEPT FOR THE FRONT FACING SKYLIGHT.
IF THE APPLICANT STILL WANTS TO HAVE THAT FRONT FACING SKYLIGHT, THEY'LL NEED TO COME BACK TO ANOTHER MEETING.
WE CAN, WE CAN APPROVE OF THE OTHER ITEMS ON CONSENT, UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO HEAR THE WHOLE CASE.
UH, YOU CAN ALSO, UH, DIRECT STAFF TO APPROVE THE WHOLE APPLICATION, UM, INCLUDING THE SKYLIGHT.
AND YOU CAN ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THEY ATTEND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
IS THAT STAFF'S PREFERENCE, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS.
WE SHOULD PULL IT FROM THE CONSENT AND DISCUSS IT.
IS THAT OKAY? I THINK SINCE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE, LET'S PULL IT FOR DISCUSSION SO THAT THEY CAN OFFER SOME CLARIFICATION.
THERE THAT'S B SEVEN 1910 MAPLE AV.
WE'RE GOING TO PULL THAT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND IT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.
ANYONE ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE? LET ME LOOK DOWN HERE JUST A SECOND.
DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS REPLIES? WHO WAS THAT? CARL.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SEE, UH, BETH FELONS, VILLA COMMISSIONER VILLAINS WILL THE SECONDS, THE MOTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ANYONE OPPOSED IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[3.D.3. PR-2020-109807 – 4714 Rowena Street – Applicant-requested postponement to May 24, 2021 Council District 9]
UM, THAT WHERE THE APPLICANT ASKED FOR POSTPONEMENT.IT WASN'T ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA, BUT CAN WE GET HER A MOTION TO POSTPONE THAT ITEM? DON'T MOVE.
COMMISSIONER WRIGHT MOVED ON LOOKING FOR THE ITEM RIGHT NOW.
THAT'S ITEM D THREE 47 14 ROWENA STREET, UH, WITH AN APPLICANT REQUEST TO POSTPONE THAT TO MAY 24TH.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LITTLE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING, THAT ITEM D THREE 47, 14, ROWENA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
NOW WE WILL GO BACK AND WE WILL HEAR, UM, UH, PRESENTATIONS.
AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED WITH THOSE SPEAKERS WHO ARE WAITING ON THE LINE.
ANYONE ON THE LINE, IF YOUR, IF YOUR ITEM JUST PASSED ON CONSENT, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REMAIN HERE.
THE ITEMS THAT TWO ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION WILL BE ON THE AGENDA AND THE ORDER THEY ARE ON THE AGENDA.
[2.A. Presentation and discussion of the former Threadgill’s No. 1, 6416 N. Lamar Blvd.]
TWO PRESENTATIONS DISCUSSIONS POSSIBLE ACTION.A, DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ON THE, UH, PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT ON THREADGILL'S ON THE LINE? HEIDRICK WOULD BECOME LESS INTERESTED BECAUSE AS STATED, WE FEEL LIKE OUR DESIGN ALREADY RESPECTS AND PRESERVES THE HISTORICAL SYNDROME AND AESTHETIC OF THE HOME AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.
UH, THIS IS VICTORIA HOCKEY WITH FABRIC DESIGN.
WE WEREN'T ABLE TO HEAR SOME OF THIS.
UM, MS. HASSEY WERE YOU WANTING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE'S NOT MUTED SHARE.
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TRYING TO FIND WHOEVER YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.MAY I PLEASE ASK WHAT NAME YOU'RE LOOKING FOR RIGHT NOW? VICTORIA HOUSING TORIA HOUSE.
AND GIVE ME ONE MINUTE, NIKKI, YOU'VE PROBABLY LOST COMMISSIONERS.
THIS IS AN ITEM OF PROPOSED DEMOLITION OF THREADGILL'S RESTAURANT NUMBER ONE.
AND THEY, THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION TO MAKE TO US ON THE CASE.
DO WE HAVE MS. HALSEY? YEAH, ON THE, ON THE WAY THERE ARE SHARES.
IS THIS VICTORIA HOUSE IF I WENT TO 908? YES.
OKAY, MS. HALSEY, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND GIVE YOUR PRESENTATION.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE Y'ALL CAN SEE THE PRESENTATION CURRENTLY.
THIS IS VICTORIA HOPPY WITH ROVER DESIGN.
UM, AND I AM HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE ORIGINAL THREADGILL'S OLD NUMBER ONE.
UM, THE IMAGE YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A REPRODUCED IMAGE OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.
THAT WAS THE FUELING STATION TURNS FUNKY ICONIC TAVERN IN LIVE MUSIC VENUE.
I WANT TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THIS FLIGHT BECAUSE THE NEW OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH MULTIFAMILY STYLE HOUSING.
AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR CONVERSATION AND FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION ON HOW TO ACCOMPLISH NEW DEVELOPMENT ALONGSIDE COMMEMORATION OF THE SITE ROLE AND CONTRIBUTION TO AUSTIN'S LIVE MUSIC SCENE.
UM, GO AHEAD AND ADVANCE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO AT THE HANDS OF KENNETH RED GILDA BUSINESS WAS ONE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST OF SEVERAL SMALL MUSIC, UM, ESTABLISHMENT IN ESTABLISHING AUSTIN'S REPUTATION AS THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
AND GREG HILLS BECAME A CULTURALLY ICONIC ESTABLISHMENT THAT SAW A LOT OF TRANSFORMATION OVER DECADES WITH THE HELP OF EDDIE WILSON.
WHO'S THE FOUNDER OF THREADGILL'S WORLD HEADQUARTERS.
UM, THE LOCATION THAT WAS DOWNTOWN OFF OF RIVERSIDE, CLOSE TO BARTON SPRINGS AND THE BUSINESS PERMANENTLY CLOSED, UM, DOORS A YEAR AGO.
AND THE PROPERTY WAS PUT UP FOR SALE ON THE MARKET SOON AFTER GO AHEAD AND ADVANCE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS IS A ROUGH SUMMARIZED AT THE PROPERTY AND THE BUSINESS TO FEELING STATION WAS BUILT AROUND THE 1930S.
KENNETH THREADGILL PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 1933 AND OBTAINED THE COUNTY'S FIRST BEER LICENSE THAT BROUGHT THE TAVERN ALIVE.
ESSENTIALLY THE END OF WORLD WAR TWO, AND SERVED IN LIVE MUSIC IN THE 1960S, SAW VARIOUS EARLY PERFORMANCES OF SOME OF AUSTIN'S NOW CHRONIC MUSICIANS, INCLUDING AND MOST ASSOCIATED THAT OF JANIS JOPLIN.
AND AFTER ABOUT 40 YEARS, KENNETH THREADGILL CLOSED THE BUSINESS AND THE BUILDING THAT VACANT FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE IT WAS PURCHASED IN THE LATE SEVENTIES BY EDDY WILSON, THE BUILDING SUFFERED EXTENSIVE FIRE DAMAGE BEFORE SEEING A REVIVAL IN THE 1980S UNDER EDDIE WILSON'S OWNERSHIP THAT BROUGHT MAJOR CHANGES IN ADDITION TO THE BUILDING, AND MUCH OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING IS GONE TODAY, BUT LUCKILY THERE ARE A FEW PROMINENT FEATURES THAT REMAIN NEXT SLIDE, THE 1959 SANDBAR MAP OF AUSTIN EARLIER VERSIONS AND NOT INCLUDE THIS AREA OF THE CITY.
AND THE ORIGINAL BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS SEEN HERE ALONG WITH TWO RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS, UM, THAT WERE DEMOLISHED SOMETIME IN THE 1970S, YOU CAN ADVANCE TO THE NEXT LINE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE ORIGINAL BUILDING FOOTPRINT PRIOR TO ANY ADDITIONS.
AND THE TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO THE WEST ARE STILL THERE.
THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS THE SANBORN MAPS OVERLAID ON TOP OF THE 1973 ARIEL, YOU CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF IT.
IT'S A FOOTPRINT AT THAT POINT.
NEXT SLIDE IN 1974, AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN ARTICLE THAT DOCUMENTED THE CON THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY AT THE TIME, UH, VANDALS TOOK OVER AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN WAS TO CONDEMN THE STRUCTURES AT THAT TIME.
KENNETH THREADGILL WANTED TO SELL THE PROPERTY, BUT HE REPORTED THAT NO ONE WANTED TO BUY THE PROPERTY WITH THE BUILDING NEXT WAY.
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND A B ORIGINAL BUILDING PRIOR TO ANY ADDITIONS.
YOU CAN SEE THE WINDOWS BOARDED UP WITH REALTY SIGNS, MARKETING, THE PROPERTY FOR SALE, THE LOT SIZE AND THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IS PAINTED DIRECTLY ON THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING, JUST ABOVE
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THE REALTY SIGN.AND THEN OF COURSE YOU SEE THE REMINDER THAT DANNA THING HERE.
HERE'S ANOTHER IMAGE THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT.
IT PREDATES THE PREVIOUS IMAGE AND IT SHOWS MORE OF THE REESE LINE AND PEAR FIT ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE.
THE PROPERTY HAS THE FIRST OF TWO MAJOR ADDITIONS UNDER THE NEW OWNERSHIP OF ANY WILSON AND THE AREAS SHADED IN GREEN SHOWS THE ORIGINAL BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
AND WHILE THE CRITICAL SHARE WAS, UH, TO THE RIGHT WAS, UM, PART OF THE ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT IS HIGHLIGHTED AS YELLOW HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS A TIME WHEN IT WAS CLOSED DOWN.
UM, THERE WERE ALSO SEVERAL OTHER BREACHES TO THE ORIGINAL FACADE AND MOST THE NEARLY THE ENTIRE SOUTHERN FACADE WAS REMOVED.
UM, SO THE RETRO RETRO DINER CARD EDITION THAT YOU SEE NEXT SLIDE, THE NICE 85 AREA ON THE LEFT REFLECTS THE NEW BUILDING FOOTPRINT AFTER THE FIRST EDITION.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THE OVERLAY IMAGE ON THE RIGHT DID NOT MAINTAIN THE OPACITY WHEN CONVERTING THIS PRESENTATION TO PDF.
I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT IT WOULD HAVE SHOWN, UH, THE ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT AS IT RELATES TO THE NEW ADDITIONS THAT HAPPENS IN THE EARLY EIGHTIES.
THIS IS THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AFTER THE FIRST, THE DISTANCE, THE VEHICLES HERE, DATE THE IMAGE TO PROBABLY LATE EIGHTIES, EARLY NINETIES, AND THE PORTICO SHARE HAS BEEN CLOSED IN AND THE DINER CAR TO THE SOUTH.
AND SINCE HE REMOVED THE ORIGINAL, UM, SOUTHERN WALL OF THE BUILDING, NEXT ONE, AND HERE'S THE 2003 AERIAL SHOWING THE ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT IN BURNT ORANGE COMPARED TO THE NEW BUILDING FOOTPRINT AFTER THE FIRST EDITION.
NEXT SLIDE LATER IN 2006, ANOTHER MAJOR RENOVATION INCLUDED TWO DINING ROOM ADDITIONS TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
AND THE ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT IS SEEN HERE IN GREEN.
AND THE SECOND ADDITIONS ARE SHOWN IN ORANGE NEXT SLIDE.
AND THIS IS A CULMINATION OF THE CHANGES OVER TIME.
THE ORIGINAL BUILDING IS IN GREEN, THE FIRST ADDITIONS IN YELLOW, AND THEN THE SECOND ADDITIONS AND ORANGE NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS A PAGE FROM THE 2007 ARCHITECTURAL PLAN SET THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT HIGHLIGHT CLIP ASIDE DEMOLITIONS, BUT THE FIRST EDITION IN YELLOW AND THE SECOND DEMOLITION ORANGE, AND FINALLY THE GREEN AREAS ARE WHAT STANDS AS ORIGINAL PORTIONS OR FEATURES OF THE EXTERIOR FACADE THAT REMAINED TODAY NEXT TIME.
AND THIS IS A BUILDING CROSS SECTION OF THE EIGHTH OR FRONT ELEVATION FROM THE 2006, 2007 PLAN SET THE AREAS HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW ARE THE PORTIONS OF THE ORIGINAL PORTICO SHARE THAT WERE REMOVED IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW DINING AREAS ON EACH SIDE OF THE PORTE-COCHERE.
MOST OF THE ORIGINAL FRONT WALL WAS REMOVED, UH, ALSO TO MAKE WAY FOR THE DINING ROOM ADDITIONS AND TO ACCOMMODATE POCKET DOORS.
SO THE ABILITY TO CLOSE OFF THE, WHAT BECAME THE STAGE PERFORMANCE AREA FROM THE REST OF THE RESTAURANT, NEXT SLIDE, AND THIS IS A 2019 AERIAL SHOWING THE ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT AND BURNT ORANGE COMPARED TO THE NEW FRONT FOOTPRINT THAT EXISTS TODAY.
AND THIS IS WHAT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING LOOKED LIKE AS OF 2019 NEXT WAY.
AND I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND ANY PHOTOS OVER THE YEARS THAT SHOW THE NORTHERN ELEVATION, UM, OR REALLY THE REAR ELEVATION.
THIS IS JUST AN IMAGE TAKEN FROM GOOGLE STREET VIEW AND 2019 NEXT WEEK, THE PRIMARY, WE HAVE A SIDE-BY-SIDE HERE SHOWING THE TRANSFORMATION OF THE BUILDING SINCE THE LATE 1970S, THE BUILDING LOOKS QUITE DIFFERENT, ALTHOUGH IT MAINTAINS A FEW KEY FEATURES, UM, THE ORIGINAL PARAPET OF THE FRONT OF THE, OF THE BUILDING AND THE COLUMNS AND THE PORTICO SHARE AND THE, UM, AND THE SOUTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.
OKAY, HERE'S THE BUILDING TODAY.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE BUILDING HAS BEEN STRIPPED OF ANY AND ALL MEMORABILIA ASSOCIATED WITH THE THREADGILL'S NAME OR THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE.
UM, WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS RECENTLY SOLD TO OUR CLIENT, THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS WHERE
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I UNDERSTAND THIS COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE FOR REVIEW OVER INTERIOR MATTERS.I'M SHOWING THESE IMAGES TO PROVIDE CONTEXT.
THE DESTRUCTION YOU SEE HERE IN THE NEXT SEVERAL PHOTOS OCCURRED BEFORE OUR CLIENTS ARE GOING OR CHIP OF THE PROPERTY, ALL ICONIC FEATURES OF THE INTERIOR, INCLUDING CEILING AND WALL PANELS, FLOORBOARDS THE STAGE FURNITURE, LIGHTING FIXTURES, ALL OF THEIR THINGS HAVE BEEN REMOVED SO MUCH, OR WHAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS PROPERTY IS GONE.
THE ORIGINAL WALLS WOULD ABSORB THE SOUNDS OF DENNIS JOPLIN AND OTHER MUSICIANS ARE NO LONGER THERE.
UM, THIS IMAGE IS TAKEN STANDING IN THE LOCATION OF THE ORIGINAL FRONT WALL AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE BUILDING, LOOKING TOWARDS WHERE THE BAR WAS.
THIS PICTURE IS TAKEN STANDING IN THE SAME LOCATION, BUT LOOKING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION TOWARDS LAMAR BOULEVARD.
THIS IS WHERE THE ORIGINAL FRONT WINDOW EXISTED.
IT NOW LOOKS INTO, UH, ONE OF THE DINING AREAS THAT WAS ADDED IN 2006.
THIS IMAGE IS DANNING AT THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND LOOKING SOUTH THE DOORWAY DIRECTLY AHEAD AND LEADS INTO THE DINER CAR.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE BUMP OUT OF ONE OF THE ORIGINAL COLUMNS REMAINING JUST TO THE LEFT OF THAT DOORWAY OPENING.
THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PICTURE SHOWS A DINING ROOM WHERE, UM, THE WINDER WAS, UH, LONG AGO.
AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE WALL FRAMING, UM, WHERE THEY WERE NOW, THAT PORTION OF THE FRONT WALL, AND AT SOME POINT PUT IN THE POCKET DOORS.
AND THEN THE AREA OFF TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PICTURE IS WHERE THE BAR WAS NEXT CYCLE.
THIS IS THE REAR OF THE STRUCTURE TODAY.
EVERYTHING YOU SEE HERE WAS ADDED IN EITHER THE AGE OR IN 2006.
AND THIS IS THE SOUTHERN ELEVATION SHOWING THE DINER CAR AND, UH, THE COVERED BACK PORCH AREA NEXT WEEK.
SO WHILE MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED, SOME THINGS REMAIN INCLUDING PEOPLE'S ASSOCIATIONS OF THIS SITE WITH JANICE JOPLIN, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHEN SHE AND MANY OTHER PERFORMERS WERE HERE IN THE 1960S, AND WE'RE WALKING A VERY FINE DELICATE LINE OF HOW TO ALLOW THE PROPERTY TO MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT PHASE OF LIFE WHILE BEING SENSITIVE TO THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL ASSOCIATIONS, UNDERSTANDING THAT SO MUCH OF THE PHYSICAL SIGNIFICANCE WAS GONE AND THE RIGHT TO THE THREADGILL NAME IS COMPLETELY OFF LIMITS.
SO WE'RE HERE TO SEEK GUIDANCE AND FEEDBACK, AND THIS RENDERING IS AN EARLY CONCEPT FOR A POSSIBLE SOLUTION.
THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE RESTORED TO THE TIME PERIOD FOR WHICH THE PROPERTY CLAIMED THAT SAME IN ASSOCIATION WITH JOPLIN AND THE CAREER AND OWNERSHIP BY KENNETH WRIGHT GO SUPPORT, THEIR SHARE WOULD BE REOPENED AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO FACE BE THE FACE OF THE SITE.
AND A GLASS LINK WOULD BE A TRANSITION FROM THE OLD VENUE, MAKING A CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE TWO TIME PERIODS.
AND THE DEVELOPER IS EXPLORING THE IDEA OF, OF A STATUE OF GHANA STOP ONE AS IT SHOULD BE FOR HER ASSOCIATION, WITH THE SITE AND THE MUSIC SCENE.
UM, AND WITH THIS WE'RE OPEN TO DIALOGUE AND LIKE HER FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION, WE DID ATTEND THE, UM, THE ARCHITECTURAL SUB COMMITTEE EARLIER THIS MONTH.
UM, SO WE REALLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE FULL COMMISSION AND REMAIN AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVELOPER ON THE LINE IF, IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS THAT HE CAN ANSWER AS WELL.
SO THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
UM, THIS DID COME BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND I, I THINK THAT I CAN SPEAK FOR THE COMMITTEE AND SAYING, THIS IS AN ICONIC BUILDING, EVEN THOUGH IT IS, IT HAS BEEN ALTERED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE, UM, THE 1940S, FIFTIES, AND SIXTIES IN A CITY THAT CALLS ITSELF THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.
AND ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS MUSICIANS THAT CAME OUT OF, UH, THE CITY IN THAT PERIOD IS JANIS JOPLIN.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE, UH, SOME PRETTY, UM, STRONG, DEEP CONSIDERED, UM, DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BUILDING AND ABOUT ITS, UM, ABOUT ITS FUTURE.
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UM, WHILE WE TALK ABOUT PROPERTIES ELIGIBLE FOR LANDMARK STATUS OR AS CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS, UM, HAVING TO BE 50 YEARS OLD OR OLDER IN OUR CODE, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO EXTEND THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE FOR, UM, FOR RESOURCES OF EXCEPTIONAL IMPORTANCE.AND, UM, SO THAT IS NOT THE 50 YEAR.
MARK IS NOT A HARD AND FAST MARK.
UM, I'D LIKE TO START THE DISCUSSION BY, UM, BY ASKING COMMISSIONER'S VILLAINS WILL, UH, AND COOK, UH, TO ADD THEIR, THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS BECAUSE WE DID DISCUSS IT, UM, COMMISSIONER COOK, THAT'S ONE OF THE, ONE OF THEM.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
IT'S EXTREMELY THOROUGH AND IT REALLY FRAMES THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW.
UM, AND I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
I, UH, THINK THE PRESENTATION REALLY POINTS OUT HOW MUCH OF ORIGINAL HISTORIC FABRIC IS LEFT.
AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT CAN BE SAVED AND, AND, AND IN WHAT FORM, BECAUSE IT HAS CHANGED SO MUCH SINCE IT'S A PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE, ALTHOUGH ARGUABLY ATTENDED TWO OF THEM ONE MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO AND WHATNOT.
UH, BUT I DO WANT TO NOTE, I WAS HESITANT ABOUT ANY ATTEMPT TO, UH, RETAIN THE VERY FRONT FACADE AND IN A MULTI-FAMILY STRUCTURE.
BUT I WANT TO NOTE THAT THE, ALTHOUGH IT NEEDS SOME FINESSE, WHAT I SEE IN THAT LAST SLIDE, I THINK DOES HAVE SOME POTENTIAL, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF RESTORATION THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO REALLY BRING IT BACK TO ITS HISTORIC APPEARANCE AND RETAINING ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING THAT THAT DOES REMAIN AND BRINGING IT BACK TO ITS FORM AND ITS IT'S A STREET FRONTAGE.
AND I THINK THE IDEA OF A STATUE TO GO ALONG WITH THE ONE WE HAVE FOR WILLIE NELSON AND STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN, ONE OF JANIS JOPLIN IS AN IDEA THAT SHOULD REALLY BE CONSIDERED AS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN, CAN GO.
UH, BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT MUCH LEFT OF IT, THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THIS SPACE ITSELF.
I KNOW PEOPLE VISIT JANIS JOPLIN'S HOME IN PORT ARTHUR AND THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THE CONNECTION THERE.
AND I THINK THIS, UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD STRONGLY CONSIDER AND I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANTS, UH, OBVIOUS, GOOD FAITH AND WILLINGNESS TO, TO DO WHAT THEY CAN TO COMBINE THE OLD AND NEW AUSTIN.
AS THIS CAME TO US, UH, AT THE COMMITTEE, IT WAS A COMPLETE DEMOLITION.
SO YEAH, THIS HAS COME A LONG WAY SINCE THEN.
UM, I DEFINITELY ECHO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER COOK HAS OFFERED.
I, I THINK THAT LAST SLIDE, UM, REALLY KIND OF BRINGS FORTH WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE MEETING.
UM, KIND OF LOOKING FOR WHAT, WHAT CAN BE, UM, SAVED OF THE BUILDING FABRIC THAT IS THERE.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE PLENTY OF PHOTOGRAPHIC DOCUMENTATION, UM, TO DO JUSTICE TO THAT RECREATION IF, IF IT IS MOSTLY A RECREATION.
I THINK THE ONE THING I NOTED IN GOING THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION IS THAT THAT GRAFFITI THAT JENNA'S SAYING HERE IS IN ALMOST EVERY PICTURE.
UM, SO I DEFINITELY SEE THIS AS, UM, ONE WAY TO COMMEMORATE, UM, HER SIGNIFICANCE TO THE MUSIC SCENE IN AUSTIN.
I'LL JUST MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE OPENING UP Y'ALL OR MAYBE NOT COMMISSIONER UNTIL IT, UH, MOST OF YOU ARE TOO YOUNG TO REALLY, UM, REMEMBERED HER IN HER HEYDAY.
BUT JANICE JOPLIN, UM, IS OFTEN REFERRED TO AS THE GREATEST WHITE FEMALE BLUES SINGER IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICAN MUSIC, JUST TO ADD THAT THOUGHT TO IT.
UM, COMMISSIONERS DO, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS, OPINIONS ON, UM, ON WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN COMMISSIONER? UH, RIGHT.
UM, I, I DO APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS, I'M LOOKING AT THE, UM, THE DRAWINGS OF PREVIOUS RENOVATIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED, WHICH ARE VERY USEFUL.
UM, IT'S CLEAR THAT MANY OF THE OPENINGS IN THE ORIGINAL EXTERIOR WALLS HAVE BEEN MODIFIED, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE ORIGINAL WALLS ARE, UM, LIKE YOU CAN POP ALL THE ADDITIONS OFF AND YOU HAVE A BUILDING LEFT, BUT IT DOES LOOK LIKE FROM THE DRAWINGS THAT THERE ARE MORE OF THE ORIGINAL WALLS LEFT THAN WAS KIND OF DISCUSSED VERBALLY DURING THE PRESENTATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF NEW OPENINGS, A LOT OF EXPANDED OPENINGS, BUT THEY'RE STILL THERE.
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I MEAN THE IDEA OF ONLY SAVING THE VERY FRONT AND THE PORT CO-SHARE AND THEN LEAVING THE GLASS BEHIND IT'S WHILE IT'S BETTER THAN COMPLETE DEMOLITION, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S REALLY QUITE RESPECTING, UM, FULLY WHAT DOES STILL EXIST.AND SO IF THERE'S ROOM TO HAVE LIKE A GLASS HYPHEN BEHIND IT, WHY IS THERE NOT ROOM TO SAVE MORE OF WHAT IS STILL THERE? ANYONE ELSE COMMISSIONER A LITTLE, YEAH, EXCUSE ME.
I WILL ECHO, I APPRECIATE THE COMMISSIONER'S EARLIER COMMENTS.
I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYONE HAS SAID, AND I DO GREATLY APPRECIATE IF THIS ORIGINALLY CAME TO THE ARCHITECTURE COMMITTEE AS A FULL DEMOLITION.
I APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER'S INTEREST BECAUSE I'VE SEEN SO MANY ARTICLES AND POSTINGS ONLINE ABOUT THE POTENTIAL DEMOLITION OF THIS BUILDING.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WHILE THE INTEGRITY IS QUESTIONABLE FROM THE PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED A LOT.
THIS IS A BUILDING THAT CLEARLY HAS VERY STRONG HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS AND COMMUNITY VALUE, WHICH ARE TWO OF OUR CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
SO I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER WRIGHT AS WELL, THAT I THINK MORE OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING COULD BE KEPT RATHER THAN HAVING THE GLASS WALLS.
BUT, UM, IN GENERAL, I DO APPRECIATE THEIR INTENTION TO PAY SOME HOMAGE TO THE, THIS BUILDING THAT HAS SO MUCH VALUE TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN COMMISSIONER FEATHER, UM, COMMISSIONER.
I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE INTERSECTION OF PRESERVATION AND COMMERCE, UM, IT TAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENT FORMS TO ME.
IT, IT WEIRDS ME OUT THAT THEY THEY'D HAVE NO RIGHTS TO THE NAME ANY LONGER.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'LL SAY ABOUT THAT.
I DO THINK THAT THE SPIRIT OF THE, OF THIS BUILDING HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME AND IT'S STILL THERE.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU LOOK AT A THING AND IT'S LOST.
UM, BUT HAVING BEEN IN THAT SPACE SO MANY TIMES MYSELF, BUT IT'S CLEARLY THE SPIRIT WAS THERE.
LAST TIME I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, THE PICTURES ARE PRETTY TOUGH.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING TO KEEP THAT, UH, SPIRIT EVOLVING.
I THINK MOST OF US, UM, HAVE KNOWN THIS BUILDING FOR THE PAST 20, 30 OR SO YEARS ALSO RECOGNIZE THIS WAS A, THIS WAS A, A REALLY GREAT MUSIC VENUE.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR CHAMPA HOOD AND YOU KNOW, SO MANY OTHER ARTISTS PLAY THERE ON JUST ABOUT ANY NIGHT OF THE WEEK.
SO IT, IT, IT REALLY HAS THAT CONNECTION AT, TO THE LIVE MUSIC SCENE HERE AND INTO MORE RECENT TIMES, UH, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, I SAW YOU, UM, MELDING SOMETHING.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD YOUR MUTE ON OR DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING PLEASE? NO, IT WAS JUST A SIDEBAR CONVERSATION WITH BYLAW.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, THOUGHTS ON IT? I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHETHER OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAD ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT POSSIBLY RETAINING THE MORE RECENT ADDITIONS THAT I THINK MORE PEOPLE MAY RECOGNIZE, AND THEY SHOULD THEN GOING BACK TO A PRE 19, 1975 RESTORATION, UH, HAVE, UH, THE, THE CORNER UNITS THAT REFLECT THE DINING CAR AND POSSIBLY EVEN KEEPING THE DINING CAR.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A COMPLETE FABRICATION OR IF IT HAS AN HISTORIC VALUE OF ITS OWN, BUT, UM, THAT ADD SOME, SOME CHARACTER AS WELL TO THE, TO THE LEFT AND A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE OF SOLIDNESS AND REFLECT THE EDDIE WILSON ERA AS WELL.
YEAH, I'D AGREE VERY MUCH WITH KEEPING ABSOLUTELY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
IT GOES ALONG WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE, THE, THE BUILDING HAS EVOLVED WHILE ITS SPIRIT STAYED THERE.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, I DUNNO, I FEEL LIKE I'VE KNOWN IT IN ITS CURRENT STATE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
IT CAN BE, THAT IS WHAT IT IS AND TO KEEP AS MUCH OF IT AS POSSIBLE WOULD BE GREAT.
THAT, THAT LEADS ME TO A QUESTION OF LIKE, WHAT IS OUR FORMAL POSITION? I KNOW WE'RE JUST GETTING LIKE SORT OF A BRIEFING ON THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, AND I'M APPRECIATIVE THAT THE APPLICANT SORT OF CAME TO YOU GUYS TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT YEAH, I WANT, WANTED TO KEEP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THEY DO THAT? LIKE WHAT TOOLS DO WE HAVE HERE, UM, FORMALLY TO MAKE THAT PROCESS WORK? WELL, I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TODAY IS TO GIVE THEM FEEDBACK ON THIS, OUR FEEDBACK WHEN WE, WHEN IT CAME TO US AS A, AS A TOTAL DEMOLITION, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING LEFT, BUT THERE IS SOMETHING LEFT.
I THINK ALL OF US RECOGNIZE IT FOR ME.
I ONLY RECOGNIZE IT SINCE THE PORT KUSH SHARE HAS BEEN ENCLOSED AND YET IT WAS STILL AN IMPORTANT MUSIC VENUE.
UM, IN THAT TIME I WOULD LIKE, I THINK THAT WE CAN, UM, IF WE JUST ARTICULATE
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OUR, OUR, UM, OUR THOUGHTS ON THIS TO KEEP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THAT WE, UM, I THINK THE, THE PORT SHARE ITSELF IS THE MOST EMBLEMATIC PART OF THE BUILDING, UM, THAT WHEN WE'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET THAT WE RECOGNIZE AS THREADGILL'S, UM, ANYONE ELSE WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A FORMAL MOTION, UH, RECOMMENDATION.SHE, THE, UM, TO THE APPLICANTS, I'D LIKE IT TO BE SOMEONE OTHER THAN ME COMMISSIONER COOK.
UM, I GUESS WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IN THE FORM OF EMOTION, BUT, UH, I, I WOULD MOVE THAT.
WE RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT CONTINUE IN THE DIRECTION PROPOSED HERE AND CONSIDER, UH, KEEPING MORE RECENT ADDITIONS, AS WELL AS THE HISTORIC, UH, PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING, UH, TO MAINTAINING THE STREET PRESENCE AND CONSIDER SUBMITTING THOSE AS A PARTIAL DEMOLITION RATHER THAN A FULL DEMOLITION, WHICH I THINK WILL KIND OF CHANGE THE PERSPECTIVE OF, OF HOW WE ULTIMATELY SEE THE PROJECT, UH, FORMERLY THAT'S YOUR FEDEX.
SOMEONE WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING VICTORIA WITH THE DIVINE.
SO THE CONTINUING THE DIRECTION, BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING THE PORTICO SHARE OPEN KEEPING THE 2006 ADDITIONS OF THE DINING ROOMS TO THE, TO THE SIZE OF THE PORTICO SHARE, I THINK WE'RE ASKING YOU TO STEADY SAVING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE RECOGNIZE AS, AS THREADGILL'S OKAY.
AND TELL ME IF I'M OFF BASE ON THIS, IF I CAN MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT, UM, REGARDING THE DINER, UM, JUST TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.
SO DUE TO THE CITY, THE LOT IS ONLY ABOUT 110 FEET WIDE AND DUE TO THE CITY'S CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR, UM, ART MINT, UM, THE DINER CAR REALLY, UM, DOESN'T LYS, THE DIRE CAR STAYS.
IT WON'T ALLOW FOR DEVELOPMENT AT THE PROPERTY BECAUSE, UM, IT, IT WOULDN'T NEED CODE FOR YOUR TRUCKS AND THINGS THAT, SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO REALLY, UH, INHIBIT THE ABILITY OF THIS, OF ANY, ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PROPERTY, UM, WHICH COULD ALSO IMPACT THE ABILITY OF WHATEVER BUILDING CAN BE PRESERVED TO BE PRESERVED AND MAINTAINED INTO THE FUTURE.
SO I JUST WANT TO JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT AND THROW THAT OUT THERE.
I THINK WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR MOTION IS, UM, RIGHT NOW IS JUST THE DIRECTION, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU TRY TO SAVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
IT MAY BE THAT, UM, THAT THE DINER CARD DOESN'T FIT INTO YOUR PLAN, BUT PERHAPS YOU COULD STUDY THAT GOING FORWARD.
I'LL, LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO, UM, FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO THE APPLICANTS TO SAVE AS MUCH OF THE BUILDING, UM, THAT THAT CAN, BECAUSE IT IS AN ICONIC SYMBOL OF THE LIVE MUSIC SCENE, ESPECIALLY WITH JANIS JOPLIN HERE.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WE'LL, UM,
[2.B. Discussion and possible action in response to National Register of Historic Places nomination for Third Street Railroad Trestle, west end of W. 3rd St. at Shoal Creek Nomination available at: https://www.thc.texas.gov/sbrmeeting]
GO ON TO, TO BE DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION IN RESPONSE TO NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION FOR THIRD STREET, RAILROAD TRESTLE, UM, ON WEST, ON WEST THIRD STAFF, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR US? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.THIS IS ELIZABETH BRUMMETT WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE STAFF.
UH, WE HAVE NOT BEEN BRINGING A NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES NOMINATIONS BEFORE THE COMMISSION, UH, IN SOME TIME.
AND THAT IS A PRACTICE THAT WE NEED TO BE IN THE HABIT OF DOING AS A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
IT'S AN EXPECTATION, UH, AS PART OF FULFILLING OUR RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE'VE, WE'VE COMMITTED TO AS PART OF THIS, UH, STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM
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THAT, UH, THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION WILL REVIEW AND COMMENT ON NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS IN ADVANCE OF GOING BEFORE THE STATE BOARD OF REVIEW FOR THAT STATE LEVEL COMMENT.AND THEN IN TURN, UM, FOR THE NOMINATION TO ADVANCE TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE FOR FORMAL LISTING.
SO THE NOMINATION WE HAVE BEFORE US TODAY IS FOR THE THIRD STREET RAILROAD TRESTLE BRIDGE AT THE WEST END OF WEST THIRD STREET AT SHOAL CREEK.
THE NOMINATIONS PUT FORWARD BY THE SHOAL CREEK CONSERVANCY.
UM, SO I'VE GOT A HISTORIC IMAGE HERE OF THE BRIDGE FROM THE NOMINATION, AND THIS IS WHAT THE BRIDGE LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
ALSO, UH, JUST BRIEFLY SHOWING THE STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANCE FROM THE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION.
THE BRIDGE IS NOMINATED TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES UNDER CRITERION A AND THE AREA OF TRANSPORTATION AT THE LOCAL LEVEL OF SIGNIFICANCE.
AND IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT THE TRANSPORTATION TIES WITH THE INTERNATIONAL AND GREAT NORTHERN RAILROAD, A MISSOURI, KANSAS, AND TEXAS RAILROAD AND MISSOURI PACIFIC RAILROADS, UM, AS WELL AS THE COMMERCE THAT THOSE RAILROADS ENABLED AS THE SIGNIFICANCE FOR THIS BRIDGE.
UM, SO I WILL KEEP THAT PRESENTATION BRIEF.
I'M HAPPY TO KIND OF ANSWER ANY PROCEDURAL QUESTIONS, BUT I DO NOT HAVE, UM, IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF THE NOMINATION ITSELF.
UH, SO I BELIEVE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS, UM, AN ENDORSEMENT OR COMMENTS ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION.
IF COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, SO WE CAN FORWARD THOSE ON TO TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION STAFF AND ADVANCE OF THE STATE BOARD OF REVIEW MEETING ELIZABETH, IS IT SCHEDULED FOR THE MAY 15TH MEETING? YES, THAT'S GREAT.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR THE MAY 15TH MEETING, UM, STAFF.
THIS MEANS THAT THE STAFF OF THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION HAS ALREADY REVIEWED THIS NOMINATION VERY CAREFULLY AND HAS SUBMITTED IT IN THE FORM THAT, UM, BEST, UH, CONVEYS ITS SIGNIFICANCE, UH, AT THE LEVEL OF THE RIGHT LEVEL OF SIGNIFICANCE AND AREAS OF SIGNIFICANCE.
SO THE STAFF HAS ALREADY DONE THIS.
UM, HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THE NOMINATION? I HAVE NOT.
MS.
SO THIS IS MOVING FORWARD ONLY UNDER CRITERION A, WHICH IS THE CRITERIA, AND THAT RELATES TO HISTORIC EVENTS AND PATTERNS IN HISTORY.
IT IS NOT MOVING FORWARD UNDER, UM, CRITERIA FOR INSTANCE, FOR ARCHITECTURE DESIGN, UH, THAT WOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED FOR LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, CAN WE DON'T GET VERY MANY ENGINEERING PROPERTIES AND NOW WE HAVE AN ENGINEER, UM, ON OUR
I HEAR, UH, A MOTION IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING THIS APPLICATION THEN.
WE HAVE A MUSH AND A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER TO LET ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING A LISTING, RAISE YOUR HAND.
IF WE GET THEM A LITTLE BIT SOONER ON OUR AGENDA, WE CAN, I'VE HAD THAT COUPLE OF THEM GO THROUGH SINCE WE'VE BEEN, UH, UM, THE WILLIE WELL'S HOUSE RECENTLY PASSED.
UH, I'VE WORKED WITH, UH, UH, SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN PEOPLE.
IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE ADDITION TO THE SHOW CREEK TRAIL.
THEY'RE GOING, IT'S GOING TO TURN, THEY'RE GOING TO TURN IT, TURN IT INTO A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.
SO THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE A PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY ACROSS THERE.
UH, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME WORK.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME MONEY, BUT I KNOW THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT, AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE OVERALL PLAN FOR SHOW CREEK.
AND I'M VERY HAPPY THAT THAT IS GOING FORWARD.
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THANK YOU FOR THAT.UH, FOR THAT PERSPECTIVE, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OUR DRAWL.
SO COMMISSIONER COOK, I WOULDN'T KNOW, UH, MS. BRAMLETT NOTED THAT CRITERIA.
I USE THE ONLY ONE GOING IN, BUT I WOULD SUSPECT THAT THERE MIGHT BE THE MAKINGS FOR A LOCAL LANDMARK AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER OR EXPLORE.
THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE TIME OR THE PLACE FOR IT, BUT ALWAYS BEEN AN ADVOCATE OF, I THINK THIS WOULD BE GREAT.
I THINK ALL OF THE BRIDGES ALONG BOTH OF THE MAJOR URBAN, UH, CREEK WAYS AND DOWNTOWN SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR LOCAL LANDMARK STATUS BECAUSE THEY REALLY TIE TOGETHER THE URBAN GRID WITH, UH, THE NATURAL CREEK WAYS.
AND AS THEY'RE BEING DEVELOPED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT ASSET.
SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD NECESSARILY DISCUSS IT.
NOW, MAYBE AFTER IT GOES THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS, WE COULD BRING IT UP AGAIN UNDER A SEPARATE DISCUSSION AS A POTENTIAL LOCAL LANDMARK AS WELL.
UH, NATIONAL REGISTER DOESN'T REQUIRE MORE THAN ONE, UM, ONE CRITERIA.
SO, UM, USUALLY THEY GO FORWARD WITH THE ONE THAT THEY HAVE THE MOST INFORMATION ON, OR THAT THEY THINK BEST CONVEYS THE HISTORY, UM, OF THE PROPERTY.
[Items 3.A.1. & 3.B.1. (Part 1 of 2)]
HEARINGS.THREE A WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON A POSSIBLE, UH, HISTORIC ZONING FOR 53, 12 SHOAL CREEK BOULEVARD.
OUR FIRST FIRST SPEAKER IN FAVOR IS AARON FRANKLIN.
AND IF I, IF I MIGHT, UH, COMMENT BEFORE WE GET INTO, UH, WE HAVE MULTIPLE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM, UH, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TAKE COMMENT ON BOTH
SO BOTH THE MERITS OF THE HISTORIC LANDMARK NOMINATION, AS WELL AS THE PROPOSED CHANGES.
AGAIN, UM, TO COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR TIMER THING WORKING BEFORE WE GET INTO THE ACTUAL SPEAKERS SOUND LIKE I'M FRUSTRATED WITH ANY INDIVIDUAL.
I KNOW LAST TIME WE HAD IT, IT TOOK A WHILE TO, I REALIZED MAYBE THE TIMING WASN'T RIGHT.
GET YOUR LITTLE, YOUR LITTLE, UM, ARE THOSE THINGS CALLED, SORRY TO INTERJECT IS THE AB TECH.
I HAVE ALL THE NUMBERS ON THE MEDIA BECAUSE I DO NOT SEE THE PRES THE SPECIFIC ERIN FLINK AND NUMBER ON THE SCREEN IS AARON FRANKLIN ON THE LINE RIGHT NOW.
AND MAY I ASK PLEASE, UH, THE FIRST SIX DIGITS OF YOUR NUMBER THAT YOU'RE CALLING IN FROM RIGHT NOW? HELLO, MARIANNE FRANKLIN.
I'M NOT SURE YOU MIGHT WANT TO MOVE ON TO SOMEONE ELSE, OR I CA I DO NOT HEAR ERIN ON THE PHONE AND EVERY ONE OF THEM MUTED AT THE MOMENT.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
UM, B TWO AND HOPE THAT WE GET MR. FRANKLIN BACK ON THE LINE.
UM, OR WOULD YOU PREFER TO DO THAT OR TO MOVE DOWN TO SUBSEQUENT SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? OH, SURE.
IF WE HAVE SUBSEQUENT SPEAKERS ON THE LINE.
OUR, UM, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STACY FRANKLIN.
NOW HOW MANY, HOW MANY MINUTES DO WE GET? ARE WE STILL AT THREE MINUTES? OKAY.
WITH THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO TALK.
ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THE CONE HOUSE? STACY FRANKLIN ON THE LINE? OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KEN JOHNSON.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.
OKAY, KAREN? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
UM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UH, I'M AN ARCHITECT WITH, UH, MICHAEL HSU OFFICE OF ARCHITECTURE.
AND I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THE FRANKLINS ON THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, ADDITION TO SHOAL CREEK.
SO, UM, I KNOW THE FRANKLINS WERE ON THE LINE, BUT I THINK THEY GOT DISCONNECTED.
SO THEY WERE, UM, ANTICIPATING THOSE, THE
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PRESENTATION OF THE, OF THE BACKUP INFORMATION.SO, UM, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE, I THINK OUR TIME IS BETTER SPENT SPEAKING ABOUT THE ADDITION ON THE, ON THE NEXT, UM, ON THE NEXT ITEM, BUT JUST, UH, THROWING MY SUPPORT BEHIND THE, THE BUILDING OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S HISTORIC MR. JOHNSON.
WE HAD DECIDED TO TAKE BOTH ITEMS AT THE SAME TIME TO HAVE YOU SPEAK ON THEM.
SO THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME.
WE WILL NOT GET TO THE PRESENTATION ON THE ITEM, THE WAY THE CITY IS DOING THIS AS HAVING ALL THE SPEAKERS SPEAK IN ORDER THAT THEY ARE ON THE AGENDA.
AND THEN WE GO BACK AND START WITH THE PRESENTATIONS.
WELL THEN I'M ABSOLUTELY HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE, THE BACKUP INFORMATION ON THE SECOND ITEM.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LAG BETWEEN THE TV AND THE PHONE CALL, BUT I'LL DO MY BEST.
SO YOU'LL SEE, UM, THE CONE HOUSE, UH, SITUATED ON A, ON DOUBLE LOTS, UH, FROM OAK CREEK BOULEVARD.
UH, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE SOME, UH, BACKHOUSE PHOTOS, THE HOUSE AS IT SITS TODAY.
UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SCRATCH THAT GROWN IN, BUT, UM, YOU'LL NOTICE FROM THE BACK OF THE INFORMATION, A REALLY INTERESTING, UH, LITTLE STONE HOUSE WITH, UH, UH, MOSTLY ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
IT HAS A LITTLE SECOND FLOOR, UM, PIECE THAT WAS BUILT WITH AN ARRAY OF REALLY INTERESTING WINDOW TYPES AND, YOU KNOW, VERY, UH, VERY INDUSTRIOUS HOUSE.
UM, AND IT, IT JUST SHOWS KIND OF THAT, UM, THE INDUSTRIOUSNESS OF THE, OF THE CONE FAMILY WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY BUILT IT, UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF LARGE TREES ON SITE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY WELL-PROTECTED AND, AND GIVE THE HOUSE A LOT OF CONTEXT.
UH, THERE'S A, A SMALL, UH, HOUSE BEHIND IT THAT WILL JUST GET, UH, RESTORED AS IS, UM, AND WITH, UH, THE CLAPBOARD MIX OF CLAPBOARD SIDING AND VERTICAL SIDING, YOU'LL SEE, UH, SOME PHOTOS OF THE, OF THE INTERIOR AND THE, UH, EXISTING, UH, WONDERFULLY GERMAN DETAILED OF THE, OF THE GREAT ROOM AND THE, THE ERA SPECIFIC TILE AND BATHROOM THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN PRESERVED AS WELL AS THE DINING ROOM WITH IT BUILT IN THE WORK, SOMEWHAT ECHOES THE REPORT, AND THEN, UH, ALSO THE BAY WINDOW.
AND SO WHEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE, THE LAYOUT OF THE FLOOR PLAN AND THE PARTS PLANE, WHY WE LOCATED THE ADDITION IN THE, IN THE PLACE THAT WE DID.
SO ON THE, ON THE LOWER LEFT, YOU'LL SEE THAT ENTRY PORT AND THE, AND THE GREAT ROOM WITH THOSE BEAUTIFUL NEW, UH, MOVING INTO THE DINING ROOM AND THEN DOWN THE HALLWAY TO THE TWO BEDROOM, THE TWO EXISTING BEDROOMS AND BATHROOM.
AND SO THAT, THAT ALL WAS IN SUCH LOVELY SHAPE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO BE PRESERVED, ESPECIALLY WITH THE VAULTED CEILING, WE FOCUSED OUR, OUR DESIGN EFFORTS ON THE PART THAT HAD BEEN MODIFIED THE MOST, UH, ON THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND SIDE, WHICH WAS THE DEN.
UM, AND FROM THE, FROM OUR INVESTIGATION, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS ENCLOSED IN THE SIXTIES, UM, AND HAD, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF STONEWORK DONE AND THEN SOME FRAMING AND METAL SIDING.
SO IN FOCUSING OUR EFFORTS THERE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT, UM, THERE WAS A PITCH BREAK ADDED, UM, AND THE, THE ROOF LINE WAS, WAS ALTERED, UH, AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, AS WELL AS THE, UH, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE STONE RIGHT THERE.
AND WE WERE MAKING THAT JUDGMENT BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFUL STONE COINING THAT'S ON ALL OF THE OTHER CORNERS AND APPEARS TO BE, UH, MODIFIED, UH, AT THIS LOCATION, AS WELL AS THE, AS ODD AS SOME OF THE, THE PIECES ARE IN THE HOUSE, NOTHING WE HAD, UM, REALLY REFLECTED THAT SHAME, UH, CHANGE.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE PROPERTY SURVEY, UM, WHERE THE, UH, THE, UH, THE EXISTING OUTBUILDING ART OUTBUILDINGS ARE.
AND AS WELL AS THE LOCATION OF THE ADDITION IN RELATION TO THE FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE, AND IT IS ROTATED 90 DEGREES, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE THE WHOLE PROPERTY AND JUST SHOW YOU HOW THE, HOW THE HOUSE IS SIDED IN RELATION TO THE CREEK AND SHOAL CREEK BOULEVARD.
BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE ADDITION IS TUCKED, UM, AWAY FROM THE, THE MOST ORIGINAL PART OF THE HOUSE AND, UH, PROPOSES TO MODIFY THE PIECE OF THE HOUSE THAT HAS BEEN THE MOST MODIFIED IN THE PAST, AS WELL AS TALKING IT COMPLETELY BEHIND THE RIDGE LINE AND THE FRONT FACADE OF THE HOUSE, THE
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MAIN HOUSE FROM THE NEXT DOLL, WE'LL SEE, UH, MODIFICATIONS PROPOSED, UH, FAIRLY MINOR WITH A SCREEN PORT STUCK BEHIND THE, UH, UPDATE, UM, OUR PORT AREA.THAT IS WHERE THE DAM IS NOW, UH, A CV ROOM, UM, AND, AND A LITTLE POWDER BATHROOM ON THE SECOND FLOOR ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE TOP THE PRIMARY BEHIND THE RIDGE LINE AND WITH THE FEEDBACK OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, FURTHER PROBE, THE ADDITION, UM, SOUTH AND WEST TO FURTHER ACCENTUATE THE, UM, WHAT, WHAT WAS CALLED IN THAT MEETING THE STONE TOWER.
UM, BUT THE KIND OF THE SECOND FLOOR EXTENSION OF THE, OF THE MAIN HOUSE.
AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN AND PRESERVE, UH, THE EXISTING STONE AT THAT TOWER AND, AND ACCENTUATE IT.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE BROUGHT, UH, ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
THE ROOF IS ALSO DEFERENTIAL ON THE SECOND FLOOR, DEFERENTIAL OF THE MAIN, UM, EXISTING, UH, STONE TOWER, EH, WITH THE, WITH THE HOPES THAT THE HOUSE IS STILL VIEWED FROM THE STREET, UM, COMING OR GOING, UH, NORTH OR SOUTH AND, AND APPRECIATE IT IN ITS CONTEXT.
SO YOU'LL SEE ON THE, ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE, A RENDERING LOOKING FROM, UH, TOWARDS THE, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE TO, UH, ILLUSTRATE THE, THE DEFERENCE OF THE ADDITION TO THE MAIN HOUSE, THE ADDITIONAL RECLAD AND, UH, IN, UH, PAINTED METAL PANELS WITH, UH, STEEL WINDOWS THAT ARE, UM, COMPLIMENTARY, BUT NOT COPYING THE STEEL WINDOWS THAT EXIST ON THE HOUSE TODAY.
UM, ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE A VIEW FROM THE NORTH OF THE EDITION, UH, AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FULLY DOWN THE DRIVEWAY AND INSIDE THE, INSIDE THE BACK, THE BACK GATE OF THE, OF THE FRANKLIN'S HOUSE.
SO NOT SEEN BY THE PUBLIC, BUT JUST FOR REFERENCE OF THE PLAN FOR THE HOUSE, YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, UM, STRETCHES OUT, UM, IN THE CROOK OF THE L OF THE, OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND, UH, COMPLETE IT REPAIRS, THE, UH, THE BROKEN, UH, ROOF LINE AND, UH, DIFFERS COMPLETELY TO THE, TO THE STONEWORK OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE PASSED THE THREE MINUTE MARK.
I DON'T, CAN WE GET AVI TO MONITOR THAT OR SOMETHING? WE'LL TURN UP THE TIMER.
THE TIMER WENT OFF AND WE HAD A MIC ON, I GUESS IT WASN'T LOUD ENOUGH.
THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON, PLEASE WRAP UP.
THE FOLLOWING SLIDES ARE THE REQUISITE ILLUSTRATED, UM, ELEVATIONS OF, OF EACH SIDE OF THE HOUSE WITH THE MATERIALS CALLED OUT.
AND THE FINAL SLIDE ILLUSTRATES THE, UH, THE BEFORE AND AFTER ON THAT GABLE END ON THAT NORTH SIDE.
SO, UH, WE'LL STAY ON THE LINE IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU.
ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS ON THE SIDE, SOME OF WHO ARE ONLINE AND AVAILABLE TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW ARE ERIN OR STACY FRANKLIN ON THE LINE.
THERE'S SOME BACKGROUND NOISE, BUT I DON'T HEAR ANYONE COMING ON LINE.
CAN WE GO ON THEN, PLEASE, TO BE TOO, WE HAVE MORE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM.
GET, GET YOURSELVES ORGANIZED THERE.
UH, LIKE A SHOE OPPOSITE ARCHITECTURE AM KEN'S, UH, PROJECT PARTNER, UH, MY TIME, UM, EVERYTHING SENT SYLVAN FOR THANK YOU.
LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT BRETT PIECE.
I'M CHRISTINE TONIGHT WITH 10 LANDSCAPE
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ARCHITECTS.WE'RE WORKING WITH THE FRANKLINS AND MICHAEL SHOES OFFICE.
SHALL I BEGIN SPEAKING? AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UM, WELL, THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE PROPERTY ON THE BANKS OF SHOAL CREEK.
UH, IN THE FRONT, OUR INTENT WAS TO SEVERAL OF THOSE LARGE TREES HAVE ACTUALLY DIED.
UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL STILL INTACT, AND OUR THOUGHTS ARE TO REALLY BRING BACK A COUPLE OF OTHER SPECIMEN TREES TO KEEP THAT SCALING OF THE OLD, OLD LIVE OAKS THAT, UH, ARE THERE.
AND SOME THAT ARE NOW MISSING.
UM, OUR CLIENTS REALLY WANTED A GREAT, UH, VEGETABLE AND HERB GARDEN AND THE EAST EXPOSURE IS A WONDERFUL, UM, EXPOSURE FOR THAT GIVEN THE BIG FRONT YARD.
SO WE CHOSE TO, UM, PUT THAT IN THE FRONT, UH, IN AN ORGANIZED WAY THAT SORT OF IN FRAMES, THE, UH, THE WINDOWS OF THE HOUSE, UH, THIS IS, LET'S SEE, ONE OF THE DRAWINGS.
UM, WE HAVE A NEW WALKWAY THAT'S REALLY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS THERE ORIGINALLY.
WE'RE JUST REPAIRING IT AND DOING A NICE STONE ENTRY.
WE WERE PROPOSING ALSO, UM, A LOW FENCE OUT FRONT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE THE, UM, GIVE THE FEELING OF A SEMI-PUBLIC SPACE.
AS YOU KNOW, THE UP AT THE FRANKLINS ARE KIND OF A PUBLIC FIGURES IN OUR CITY AND ALL OVER.
AND, UM, THEY HAVE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WANTING TO TALK TO THEM AND, AND THEY'RE, THEY LOVE TALKING TO PEOPLE.
THEY LOVE SEEING THE ACTIVITY OF THE STREET, BUT IT WAS JUST, UH, A SMALL GESTURE WITH BIND.
UH, IT'S A WOVEN MESH MATERIAL THAT WE WERE GOING TO GROW VINES ON TO, UM, JUST GIVE THAT LITTLE LAYER OF, UM, DEMARCATION THERE BETWEEN THE STREET AND THE HOUSE, THE FRANKLINS HAVE A YOUNG DAUGHTER, AND THERE IS A LOT OF BUSY TRAFFIC WITH THE BIKES AND THE TRAFFIC OUT FRONT.
AND SO THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON FOR WANTING TO DO THIS ADDITION IN THE FRONT.
UM, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU WRAP THIS UP YOUR TIME IS UP? SURE.
UM, THE, THE, UH, I BELIEVE WE USED TO HAVE A TRELLIS OUT FRONT TOO, THAT, THAT IN THE FRAMES, THE PICTURE WINDOWS, AND, UM, JUST KIND OF DEFINE THAT HERB GARDEN THAT I SEE MISSING ON THIS, UM, ON THIS PERSPECTIVE.
SO I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION FORWARD TO YOUR COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANOTHER SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
IF SOMEONE WOULD PLEASE WATCH THE THOUGHT OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS, OH, EXCUSE ME.
WHO WAS SPEAKING? IT WAS NEIL CRANES.
I JUST GOT THE IMPRESSION THAT SHE SLEPT.
THERE IS ANOTHER SPEAKER BEFORE YOU, THERE'S ANOTHER SPEAKER IN FAVOR.
UH, DARWIN, HARRISON, UH, HELLO, THIS IS DARWIN HARRISON.
UH, I AM AN ARCHITECT AND I ACTUALLY LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THIS HOUSE.
AND SO I'VE APPRECIATED IT FROM BEING NEXT DOOR AND KNOWING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ITS HISTORY AND PREVIOUS INHABITANTS.
UH, I ALSO KNOW FIRSTHAND THAT THE FRANKLINS ARE TREATING THIS PROPERTY LIKE EXACTLY LIKE YOU WOULD WANT THEM TO.
UM, THEY'VE HIRED THE BEST OF THE BEST AS FAR AS, UM, DESIGNERS AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS AND THEIR INTENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO RESTORE IT TO SOMEWHAT OF ITS PREVIOUS GLORY, UM, BUT ALSO MAKE IT MODERN AND LIVABLE.
SO I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF IT.
I THINK THE PROPERTY AND THE HOUSE COULD NOT BE IN BETTER HANDS AND THEY SHOULD
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BE APPLAUDED FOR WANTING TO KEEP IT BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT, BECAUSE I WAS WORKING WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNER, THERE WAS DEFINITELY A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO POSSIBLY TEARING THE HOUSE DOWN OR DEVELOPING A MUCH DIFFERENT SCENARIO.SO THESE ARE THE, THE, THE BEST OWNERS AND WITH THE BEST INTENTIONS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
WHO'S THE NEXT SPEAKER? OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS NEIL CRANE.
MY NAME IS NEIL CRANE AND I OPPOSE THE MODIFICATION OF THE ZONING FOR THE PROJECT LOCATION, 53 12 SHOAL CREEK LANE BECAUSE OF A BOUNDARY DISPUTE WITH THE OWNER OF THE PROJECT LOCATION AND ITS SURROUNDS BASICALLY DIRECT EGRESS TO THE CREEK AND SURVEYS I HAVE FOUND I'VE DONE AND HAVE OTHER OWNERS ON THIS SIDE HAVE DONE SHOW THAT THE PROPERTY LINES ARE FOR THE HOUSES ON TURNABOUT LANE RUN ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE CREEK.
AND WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THE PREVIOUS TALKER, UH, ONE OF THE PREVIOUS PRESENTERS TALKED ABOUT WAS THE FRANKLINS, HAVING LOTS OF PEOPLE OVER AND LOTS OF FRIENDS, PEOPLE COMING BY AND MAKING EAGERNESS TO THE CREEK, UH, THROUGH MY PROPERTY AND INCREASING AND OTHERS ON TURNABOUT LANE AND INCREASING OUR LIABILITY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO THE BOUNDARY DISPUTE TO BE RESOLVED.
UM, I, WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THE APPROPRIATENESS OF CHANGES THAT THEY HAVE, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT YOUR BOUNDARY DISPUTE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WILL WE'LL DEAL WITH IN A LEGAL WAY.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER? UH, IF WE WANT TO GIVE ONE LAST CHANCE FOR AARON AND STACY FRANKLIN, IF THEY'VE REJOINED THE CALL, MR. OR MRS. FRANKLIN, I THINK WE'VE LOST THEM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU
[3.B.2. C14H-1986-0015, C14H-2004-0008 – 907, 909, and 911 Congress Ave. – Discussion (postponed March 22, 2021) Grandberry Building, Mitchell-Robertson Building Congress Avenue Historic District Council District 9 (Part 1 of 2)]
HAVE THREE MINUTES.JO, CAN YOU SEE MY PRESENTATION? NOT YET.
UH, I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER AND I'M JOINED BY DONNA CARTER, WHO I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW.
UM, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE ARE.
PROCESS-WISE, UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH WHEN WE CAME HERE.
UM, AND I'LL HAVE DONNA LAY OUT THE SPECIFICS OF WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROGRESS WE'RE MAKING SO FAR TOWARD THE DECONSTRUCTION AND RECONSTRUCTION PROPOSAL FOR NINE OH SEVEN, 909 AND NINE 11 CONGRESS AVENUE.
UM, WE AREN'T HERE TONIGHT ASKING FOR ACTION, BUT WE'RE INSTEAD INFORMING YOU OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING AND ONE TO KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP, UM, TO ENSURE THAT YOU AGREE WITH AND UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION WE'RE HEADED AND ON THIS, UM, DELICATE AND VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT.
SO I'LL MOVE THROUGH THE PRESENTATION QUICKLY.
AND OF COURSE, UM, LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, IF YOU COULD GO TO SLIDE TWO, UM, I THINK EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH WHERE THESE SITES ARE LOCATED.
THEY'RE JUST OUT OF THE CAPITOL ON THE EAST SIDE OF CONGRESS AVENUE ON SIDE THREE.
UM, AS WE PRESENTED LAST MONTH, OUR PROPOSAL IS TO DECONSTRUCT THE BUILDINGS AND THEN RECONSTRUCT THEM ALONG WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.
WE PLAN TO SUBMIT THE DETAILED DECONSTRUCTION AND RECONSTRUCTION PLAN TO THE HISTORIC OFFICE.
UM, IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE, UH, PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT, WHAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO DO THE WORK.
THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL THEN HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT PROCESS TO GET APPROVAL FOR THE OVERALL REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, WHICH WILL INCLUDE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE FACADE.
UH, THE SITE PLAN WILL THEN WOULD THEN COME TO YOU FOR APPROVAL, OF COURSE.
UM, AND AT THAT POINT, THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD BE ABLE TO RECONSTRUCT THE FACADE WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN YOUR BACKUP, WE ARE WILLING TO COMMIT TO A MAXIMUM TIMELINE, BUT THE BUILDING FACADES WOULD BE DOWN THROUGH A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT RECORDED ON THE SITE.
WE HAVE DRAFTED THE ONE THAT IS POSTED TO YOUR BACKUP.
ALTHOUGH WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY AND THE CITY OF OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT IS THE PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE MAKING.
UM, MOVE ON TO SLIDE FOUR, PLEASE.
UM, THIS IS JUST A TIMELINE OF THE EVENTS I SHOWED THIS LAST MONTH AND I WON'T GO, I WON'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON IT, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SHOWS THAT WE, IT STARTED THIS PROCESS STARTED BECAUSE OF A COMPLAINT TO THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION.
UM, AND THEN MOVING ON TO SLIDE FIVE, UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE OUR PROPOSAL OF FUTURE EVENTS, UM, WITH YOUR INPUT AND DIRECTION ON THE SCOPE THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE POSTED TO YOUR BACKUP, AND THAT DONNA WILL BE ABLE TO DESCRIBE,
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WE'LL BE SUBMITTING THAT DETAILED DECONSTRUCTION AND RECONSTRUCTION PLAN, UM, THAT YOU'VE REQUESTED IN THE PAST IN ORDER TO GET THE PERMIT NEEDED TO DISMANTLE THE BUILDINGS.UM, AND THEN WE WOULD BE SUBMITTING THE SITE PLAN, LIKE I MENTIONED, UM, MOVING ON TO SIDE SIX.
UM, AT THIS POINT I WILL, I WILL HAND OVER TO DONNA AND LET HER UPDATE YOU ON, UM, ON WHERE WE ARE SO FAR AND THE EXISTING CONDITIONS IN THE BUILDINGS TODAY.
THANK YOU, MS. CARTER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD, DON MCCARTER.
NOW WE CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND DO I HAVE, OKAY.
DONNA CARTER WITH CARTER DESIGN ASSOCIATES AND AT THE RISK OF MAKING A PEST OF PEST OF MYSELF, I REALLY JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE.
UM, WE, UM, AT OUR PHASE PROPOSAL IS OBVIOUSLY TO COMPLETE THE DOCUMENTATION OF THE, OF THE, UH, FACADES AND, UH, SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THEM DOWN AND PUT THEM BACK UP PROPERLY, UM, PREPARED, DETAILED PLANS.
BUT I THINK THE, THE NEW THING THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD IS THE RESTRICTED COVENANT AND THE, UM, ESSENTIALLY ASSURANCE THAT THEY WILL GO UP AND, UM, THAT OBVIOUSLY ANY DEMOLISHED ELEMENTS, AND IT'S NOT REALLY JUST THE FACADE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOME OTHER ELEMENTS BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WHEN THE FACADE AND SINCE THESE BUILDINGS GO BACK UP, THAT THEY MARRY, UM, PROPERLY WITH THE PROPOSED RECONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD BE DONE, UM, AS PART OF NEW DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO COORDINATE THOSE, UM, THOSE EFFORTS WITH THE NEW BUILDING.
SO TO TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN, UM, IN TERMS OF AN UPDATE, IF YOU CAN SEE THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, WE DO HAVE THE DRAFTS THAT OBVIOUSLY YOUR LEGAL HAS TO LOOK AT, UM, IN TERMS OF THE RESTRICTED COVENANT.
AND WE WILL BE LOOKING AT, UM, ANY CHANGES THAT HAVE TO BE MADE, UM, ON THAT WE HAVE HAD MORE EXTENSIVE, UM, SITE VISITS, BOTH ARCHITECTURALLY AND WITH AN ENGINEER TO, UM, CURRENT CONDITION OF THE SITE.
AND, UM, UNFORTUNATELY WAS VERY LATE CAUSE THEY WERE OUT OF TOWN MOST OF LAST WEEK, BUT WE DO HAVE A LETTER FROM THE ENGINEER, BASICALLY CONCURRING THAT WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S GOING ON, UM, AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, THAT IT WOULD BE VERY, VERY DELETERIOUS TO THE FACADES AND PROBABLY COULD NOT PROTECT THEM DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE REST OF THE, OF THE FACILITY.
SO AGAIN, HIS RECORD RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT THEM WOULD BE TRUE.
UH, WE HAVE CONTRACTED WITH THE LASER COMPANY.
WE KNOW FOR SURE THAT WE CAN GET THE REAR OF THE BUILDINGS, THE TOP AND THE INTERIOR, UM, AND WITH THE HELP OF THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, AS WE LAY OUT A SAFE PATH THROUGH THE BUILDING, UM, WE'RE NOW FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, UH, ALSO, UM, WITH, UH, STREET SCAFFOLDING, BE ABLE TO GET THAT LASER ACCESS TO THE FRONT OF THE FACADE.
SO THAT CONTRACT IS IN PLACE AND WE'LL BE WORKING TOWARDS SETTING UP, UH, THAT WORK AND SETTING UP THE SAFE PASSAGE TO ALLOW THAT TO WORK.
WE'VE ALSO INITIATED ADDITIONAL RESEARCH.
AND IN THAT WE HAVE FOUND EVIDENCE OF A FIRE FOR CERTAIN IN NINE OH SEVEN, WHICH DOES EXPLAIN SOME OF THE DAMAGE THAT WE'RE SEEING THERE.
AND WE ALSO SEE SOME OF THE, UM, CHANGES IN THE WORK THAT WAS DONE IN SOME OF THE MATERIAL THAT WAS REMOVED FOR NINE OH NINE AND NINE OH SEVEN DURING THE EIGHTIES AND THE EARLY NINETIES.
NO, THAT WAS TIME JUST TO BE AWARE.
CAN YOU WRAP UP? OKAY, MS. CARTER, THE, THE NEXT PHOTOGRAPHS REALLY ARE THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDING TODAY, AS YOU SEE IT, UM, IF YOU NOTICE ON THE ONE WHERE YOU SEE THE, UM, THE FACADE, YOU'LL START TO SEE SOME DIAGONAL LINES.
AND THIS SHOWS OUR, OUR SHIFT, UM, IN, IN OUR CONSTRUCTION.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHY THE FACADES THEMSELVES WITH THE FIRE DAMAGE ON THE ONE BUILDING AND THE EXTENSIVE REMOVAL ON NINE 11, WHY THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES ARE SO UNSTABLE.
UM, BUT AS I SAID, WE ARE PROCEEDING AND, UM, WE'LL BE GETTING WITH THE COMMERCIAL SCAFFOLDING COMPANY, UM, VERY SHORTLY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS CASE HEARING NONE.
[3.B.3. C14H-2010-0009, HR-2021-041008 – 1501 Northwood Road – Discussion Voss House Council District 10 (Part 1 of 2)]
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WE'LL GO AHEAD TO BEAT THREE 15 ONE NORTHWOOD ROAD.THIS IS A DISCUSSION ITEM OF, DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER ON THAT? WE HAVE CONNOR SEVENS.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN GO AHEAD.
UM, I, I'M JUST SORT OF SORTING MY WAY THROUGH, BUT, UM, I'M THE OWNER AT 1501 NORTHWOOD ROAD.
I'VE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OVER SORT OF THE BROCKER WOODS PEMBERTON AREA.
THE PAST 16 YEARS, I'VE LIVED IN A FEW DIFFERENT HOMES HERE.
UM, 1501 NORTHWOOD ROAD IS A, OBVIOUSLY A HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS, UM, WITH, UH, LIVE HERE WITH MY THREE BOYS.
IT'S, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL IT'S, IT'S GOT A LOT OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL HARDWOOD FLOORS AND IT'S THE ROOMS ARE, UM, REALLY WELL PROPORTIONED SORT OF THROUGHOUT THE HOME.
UM, AND THAT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, OLDER, TRADITIONAL, YOU KNOW, SMALLER LIVING ROOM INTO A SMALLER DINING ROOM.
AND, UM, THE HOUSE IS REALLY WAY, UH, REALLY WELL LAID OUT.
UM, THE DESIGN THAT MY ARCHITECT JOHN STODDARD HAS DONE HAS, YOU KNOW, REALLY, WE REALLY TOOK GREAT PAINS TO TRY AND DESIGN SOMETHING THAT WAS IN KEEPING WITH, UM, THE WAY THE HOME LOOKS AND WOULD THAT WOULD, THE ADDITIONS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WOULD SORT OF MAINTAIN THIS SORT OF PROPORTIONAL ROOM SIZE AND FLOW OF THE HOME.
IN FACT, I MEAN, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, UH, AS A LAY PERSON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PREVIOUS OWNER I THINK, WAS AN ARCHITECT AND DID A NICE JOB OF DOING SOME REMODELING INSIDE THE HOME OF DOING SOME MODERNIZING THE BACK OF THE HOUSE INSIDE, YOU KNOW, IT HAS A ROOM TOWARDS THE BACK THAT SORT OF FUNCTIONS AS A FAMILY ROOM, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A ROOM THAT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, ISN'T AS PROPORTIONAL TO THE REST OF THE HOME.
AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT W WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS SOMETHING MORE IN KEEPING WITH, UM, THE HISTORIC, UH, NATURE AND FLOW OF THE HOUSE.
SO THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, AS YOU, AND AGAIN, I THINK YOU ALL HAVE THE DRAWINGS.
I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION THE WAY SOME OF THE OTHER STU, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE GOES BACK AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SORT OF A FAMILY ROOM THAT LEADS TO, UH, A COVERED PORCH THAT LEADS TO ONE ADDITIONAL SORT OF PROPORTIONATELY SIZED ROOM.
UM, WE WOULD BE TEARING DOWN AT A GARAGE STRUCTURE IN THE BACK THAT I DON'T THINK IS COMPLIANT WAS BUILT, YOU KNOW, WAY BEFORE I GOT HERE.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THERE'S A SECOND STORY THAT, YOU KNOW, W WE HAVE, AND AGAIN, I'LL SEARCH FOR THE WORDS, BUT I MEAN, IT'S SET BACK SO THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, THE FACADE WOULD LOOK, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE LINES OF THE ROOF ARE, ARE DESIGNED.
SO THAT, UM, FROM THE SIDE, IT LOOKS VERY, UM, IN KEEPING WITH, WITH, UH, THE, THE OTHER SORT OF WINES OF GROUP THAT WERE ALREADY THERE, BUT AGAIN, FROM THE, FROM THE FRONT AND THE FACADE, YOU SIMPLY SEE, UH, IT WON'T BE AS VISIBLE FROM THE, UM, FROM THE WAY YOU'RE STARING STRAIGHT AT THE HOUSE.
SO, I MEAN, IN SHORT, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR GOAL HERE IS TO DO AN ADDITION.
AND IN KEEPING WITH, UM, THE HISTORIC NATURE AND SORT OF, UM, LOOK AND FEEL OF NOT ONLY THIS HOUSE, BUT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN, WHICH I I'VE LIVED IN, I'VE LIVED ACTUALLY IN ANOTHER HISTORIC HOME AS WELL.
AND SO I'M VERY MUCH, UM, I, I LOVE THESE HOMES AND, YOU KNOW, MY INTEREST IS IN AND KEEPING THIS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL AND, AND SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? MY ARCHITECT IS ON, I MEAN, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HEAR ME IS I CAN HEAR YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND BRIEFLY TELL US, UM, WHAT YOU WANT TO STAY HERE.
OKAY, GOOD, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
I'M THE OWNER OF JOHN WEST BATTER INCORPORATED, UH, OFFICE THAT DESIGNED THE ADDITION AT 1501, UH, NORTHWOOD.
UM, AND THANK YOU, CONNOR FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE DESCRIPTION.
I THINK THAT WAS REALLY HELPFUL.
UM, YEAH, ESSENTIALLY, UM, THE EXISTING HOME IS A SINGLE STORY, A CLASSIC, REALLY BEAUTIFUL HISTORICAL BUNGALOW, UH, WITH PAINTED ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL, SUCH AS, UM, EXPOSED, PAINTED TWO BY SIX RAPPER SALES, UM, AND ORIGINAL SINGLE HUNG WINDOWS.
UM, THE PROPERTY HAD ITS CHALLENGES BECAUSE IT WAS A CORNER PLOT.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY HAD TWO FACES IF YOU WILL, FOR THE FACADE, UH, HARRIS BOULEVARD
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AND, UH, NORTHWOOD, UH, ROAD.AND SO, UM, WE WANTED TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY IN KEEPING WITH THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, UM, WHILE, UM, YOU KNOW, MEETING ALL OF THE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS, UM, AND GOALS FOR, FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, ADDING TWO MORE BEDROOMS AND, AND ADDING A REAR PORCH TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
IN ADDITION, THERE WAS A PROTECTED, THERE IS A PROTECTED TREE IN THE REAR COURTYARD THAT, UM, KIND OF DICTATED THAT THE DESIGN OF THE REAR ADDITION, BECAUSE THERE WAS A CRITICAL ROOT ZONE THERE.
AND WE ALSO WANTED TO LOSE LINE TO GET A LITTLE LOWER, UM, JUST TO BE SENSITIVE TO THAT TREE AS IT GROWS MORE OVER THE YEARS.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL, UM, JUST, UH, JUST TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY HARMONIOUS WITH THE SURROUNDING URBAN FABRIC AND HISTORICAL HOMES.
UM, WELL, UM, TRYING TO MAKE THE ADDITION TO THE REAR AND THE SECOND LEVEL LOOK LIKE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ALL.
IS THERE, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS CASE? OKAY.
[3.B.5. HR-2021-039343 – 612 Highland Ave. – Discussion Smoot/Terrace Park Historic District Council District 9 (Part 1 of 2)]
WE CAN GO ON TO D FIVE, SIX, 12 HIGHLAND AVENUE.THIS IS A NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE SMOOTH TERRACE PARK, HISTORIC DISTRICT.
IS THERE SOMEONE TO SPEAK ON IT? OKAY.
MR. DEAVER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, MR. DEAVER, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? OKAY.
DID WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS? HELLO? CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY.
SO, UH, DO, ARE MY SLIDES UP? MY SIDE'S UP? HELLO COMMISSIONERS.
I'M NICK DEVER ARCHITECT FOR SIX 12 HIGHLAND AVENUE DESIGNED UNDER THE, UH, THIS IS DESIGNED SIX, 12 HIGHLAND AVENUE UNDER THE GUIDELINES FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE SMOOT HIGHLAND TERRACE, LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT SLIDE.
NUMBER ONE SHOWS US A SITE PLAN OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE THAT WAS DESTROYED IN A 19, IN A 2019 FIRE.
OUR SLIDE NUMBER TWO, WE SHOW OUR NEW HOUSE IS IN THE SAME ORIENTATION SIZE LOCATION, AND SETBACK OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.
IT IS A SINGLE STORY WITH A LOWER FLOOR POOL AND TERRORISTS NINE FEET BELOW THE STREET.
THERE'S AN EXISTING GARAGE TO BE RECLAD AND RE ROOFED OFF THE ALLEY.
I'D LIKE TO SKIP SLIDE THREE AND FOUR AND GO TO SLIDE FIVE.
THIS IS IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE HISTORIC JAMES RAYMOND JOHNSON HOUSE, OUR NEW HOUSE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT EVE AND FLOOR HEIGHTS ARE IN RED, WILL MATCH THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.
IF WE CAN SKIP, SKIP SLIDE SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, AND NINE, AND GO TO SLIDE 10.
UH, THIS IS OUR RENDERING PART, NEW CONSTRUCTION GUIDELINES.
WE HAVE THE SAME STREET ORIENTATION AND DISTANCE FROM THE ADJACENT BUILDINGS.
OUR FRONT YARD SETBACK ALIGNS WITH THE SETBACKS OF THE ORIGINAL OF THE ADJACENT CONTRIBUTING HOUSE TO THE SOUTH WE'RE COMPATIBLE, BUT DIFFERENTIATED FROM THE HISTORIC BUNGALOWS DELIBERATELY DEPARTING FROM THE CRAFTSMAN STYLE WITH A MODERN ARCHITECTURE TO REFLECT OUR TIME.
UH, WE HAVE MATERIALS THAT REFLECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BRICK AND STUCCO, A BRICK BASE WITH A STUCCO WALL, STANDING METAL ROOF, WOOD PORCH, CEILING, AND SOFFITS.
WE MATCHED THE ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT AND THE EAVE HEIGHTS OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE, MAINTAINING THE SCALE MASSING AND SPACING BETWEEN HOUSES.
THIS IS A MODERN HOUSE, NOT A HISTORIC STYLE WITH FORMAL WITH, WITH OUR FRONT PROPORTIONS AND FINISHED DURATIONS, SIMILAR TO THE NEIGHBORS.
IT'S A SIMPLE HIPPED ROOF WITH FRONT FACING DORMER AND PROJECTED FRONT PORCH.
WE HAVE A DEEP BUILDING-WIDE FRONT PORCH THAT MATCHES THE WIDTH FOR HEIGHT AND CEILING HEIGHTS OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE.
OUR SINGLE STORY HAS A LOWER FLOOR AND GARDEN AT A LOWER LEVEL BELOW THE STREET GRADE.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE SEPARATED THE BRICK LANDSCAPING WALL FROM THE BRICK PORCH BY EIGHT, WITH AN EIGHT INCH GAP IN RESPONSE TO AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE COMMENT.
WE PRESENTED OUR DESIGN TO THE NEIGHBORS AND AWANA ZONING COMMITTEE AND RECEIVED ONLY POSITIVE COMMENTS AND AT LEAST EIGHT NEAR EIGHT NEARBY NEIGHBORS.
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ZONING COMMITTEE HAVE SENT LETTERS OF SUPPORT, INCLUDING THE NEIGHBORS IN THE, IN THE HISTORIC JAMES, UH, RAYMOND JOHNSON HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET.WE MET WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE ON MARCH EIGHT, RECEIVED FAVORABLE RESPONSES AND A REQUEST TO CONSIDER BREAKING UP THE BRICK LANDSCAPING WALL.
WE RESPONDED BY SEPARATING THE BRICK, UH, PORCH BASE FROM THE BRICK LANDSCAPING WALL WITH AN EIGHT INCH GAP LATER, THE STAFF ASKED US TO CONSIDER SUBSTITUTING HORIZONTAL SIDING FOR THE STUCCO SIDING.
WE CONSIDERED THIS PROPOSED CHANGE BEFORE CONCLUDING OUR ORIGINAL STUCCO PROPOSAL IS A BETTER FIT FOR OUR NEW HOUSE IN THE SPOON, IN THE SMOOTH TERRACE PARK, LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES OF SECONDARY STUCCO ELEMENTS ON HOUSES THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND A CONTRIBUTING AN INDIVIDUAL LANDMARK BUNGALOW.
UH, I'LL I'LL WRAP UP AND, AND THE MARY NELSON HOUSE AT 1502 WEST NINTH STREET IS, IS PRIMARILY STUCCO WALLS AND FEATURES.
AND TONIGHT WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR THIS DESIGN.
AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL REMAIN ON THE, UH, ON THE LINE, THE THIRD QUESTIONS LATER.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JESSICA DIVA.
I DON'T BELIEVE SHE'LL BE SPEAKING.
DO WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER? OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CHUCK COOK.
MR. COOK, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST RESERVE MY TIME TOO.
IS THERE ANOTHER SPEAKER? UH, ELIZABETH COOK.
DO WE HAVE A SPEAKER WHO WANTS TO SPEAK MR. THOSE ARE ALL THE SPEAKERS WE HAVE SIGNED UP ON THIS CASE.
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, I NEED TO LEAVE THE DIAS FOR A SECOND.
UM, COMMISSIONER VILLAINS SUELA AS THE LAST VICE CHAIRMAN.
COULD YOU PLEASE PICK UP HERE? UM, OUR NEXT CASE I BELIEVE IS D ONE 1601 BRACKENRIDGE.
CAN YOU SEE IF THERE ARE SPEAKERS FOR THAT? I'LL BE RIGHT BACK, UH,
[3.B.7. HR-2021-048226 – 1910 Maple Ave. – Consent Rogers Washington Holy Cross Historic District Council District 1 (Part 1 of 2)]
COMMISSIONER.OUR NEXT CASE IS, UH, 1910 MAPLE AVENUE.
UH, THAT WAS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
IN OUR FIRST SPEAKER ON THE LINE WILL BE MEGAN, MARVIN.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND, AND, UM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
HI, MY NAME IS MEGAN MARVIN, AND I AM THE ARCHITECT FOR THE 1910 MAPLE ADS REMODEL.
AND I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE FIRST APPLICATION UNDER THE NEW ROGERS WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS START DISTRICT.
SO ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND THE OWNERS, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WE'RE EXCITED TO CONTRIBUTE.
AND THIS IS AN INTERIOR REMODEL WITH LIMITED CHANGES TO THE EXTERIOR, AND IT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED FOR CONSENT EXCEPT FOR THE FRONT FACING SKYLIGHT.
SO I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS SPECIFIC TO THAT.
IF YOU PULL UP SLIDE 12, YOU WILL SEE OUR PROPOSED DESIGN AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE COMBINATION OF THE SLOPE OF THE DRIVEWAY AND THE SLIDE 12 SHOULD BE A RENDERING.
UM, ANYWAY, SO WITH THE SLOPE OF THE DRIVEWAY AND THE LOW SLOPE OF THE ROOF, IT MEANS THAT THERE'S A VERY MINIMAL VISIBILITY OF THE SKYLIGHTS ON THE STREET.
AND IN THE KEY PLAN TO THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED SKYLIGHT AND QUESTION.
AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE THE ORIGINAL STONE CHIMNEY WAS LOCATED, WHICH WAS REMOVED, UH, BY THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPERS.
SO IT'S QUITE LITERALLY A PATCHED HOLE IN THE ROOF.
UM, SO WE FEEL A SKYLIGHT HERE IS BOTH APPROPRIATE AND RESPECTFUL TO THE ORIGINAL LAYOUT.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE SKYLIGHT IS IN THE BACK HALF OF THE BUILDING.
SO UNDERSTANDING WOULD NOT BE PART OF THE PROTECTED SOCIETY.
UM, SO I HOPE YOU CONSIDER APPROVING THE APPLICATION IN ITS ENTIRETY AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR OTHER QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS CASE? UH, YES.
RYAN, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? HELLO.
MY NAME IS RON MCLAUGHLIN, UH, AND, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD
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OTHER THAN, UH, WE'RE EXCITED.UH, MY WIFE AND I ARE THE NEW OWNERS AND, UH, WE THINK THAT THE SKYLIGHT WILL HELP MAKE AN INTERIOR MORE LIVABLE FOR US AND, UH, HELP IMPROVE, UH, TO NOT NEED AS MUCH ELECTRICAL LIGHTING.
ANYONE ELSE ON THIS CASE? UH, WE HAVE NICOLE HALL.
UM, I'M, I'M SITTING HERE WITH RYAN, SO I WILL, UM, LET MEGAN, AND, AND RYAN'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK HERE.
ANYONE ELSE? OUR LAST SPEAKER ON THIS CASE WILL BE THEODORE MCDOWELL.
DO WE HAVE MR.
I WANT TO THANK ELIZABETH FOR BEING SO RESPONSIVE, VIA EMAIL AND BEING ORGANIZED.
AND JUST NOTE THAT I'M HAPPY FOR THE DAY THAT WE GO BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS, BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE A BIT OF A DISCONNECT ON THESE PHONE MEETINGS WITH LAGS AND KIND OF BLISTERING THROUGH LIST THE SPEAKERS TOO QUICKLY.
SO JUST SOME CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.
WE'RE PRETTY AWARE OF THIS COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA.
CAN I ASK YOU TO STEP IN PLACE? I HAVE A DOG EMERGENCY.
I BELIEVE OUR NEXT, UH, CASE TO HEAR FROM SPEAKERS IS C 10 1201 INFIELD ROAD.
OUR FIRST SPEAKER ON THIS CASE IS CHRIS CRAIGER.
HELLO? YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR 12 ONE AND FIELD.
UM, SO, UM, WE HAVE, UM, UH, WE WERE APPROACHED BY OUR CLIENT, REBECCA DAHLBY, UM, TO DESIGN, UM, MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT ON THE PROPERTY THAT SHE'S OWNED FOR MANY YEARS.
UM, REBECCA IS, I WANT TO MENTION SHE IS NOT A SPECULATOR.
SHE, THIS IS SOMETHING SHE'S PLANNING ON HOLDING A BUILDING AND HOLDING AND RENTING OUT THE UNITS.
UM, WE DID ATTEMPT TO, UH, SUBMIT A DEMOLITION PERMIT, UM, EARLIER ON, BEFORE WE SUBMIT IT FOR SITE PLAN.
AND WE'RE TOLD THAT THE, UM, UH, THE PROCESS THAT WAS REQUIRED, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE WAS WE NEEDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL FIRST, BEFORE WE COULD GET THEM DEMOLITION PERMIT APPROVED.
UM, I JUST WANT TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY.
WE MET WITH THE AWANA GROUP AND I JUST, I WANT TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO, UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE AWANA, UM, UH, DESIGN GUIDELINES, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, IT STATES TO PR YOU KNOW, THE REQUIREMENT OR DESIRES TO PROMOTE THE DIVERSITY OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLES, UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THERE ARE MANY MODERN BUILDINGS, BOTH NEW AND OLD IN THE AWANA NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO OUR BUILDING IS DESIGNED IN THAT, IN THAT SPIRIT.
UM, ANOTHER CONCERN WAS, UM, THAT THIS TYPE OF STRUCTURE AT THE, UM, AT THIS SITE, THE LOCATION AT THE CORNER OF WINDSOR AND HENFIELD, UM, IS, UH, PROBLEMATIC IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC.
UM, UH, THE, THE PROPERTY, UM, HAS MULTIFAMILY ZONING WE'RE WELL UNDER THE ENTITLEMENTS.
UM, AND IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN MANY OF THE MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS BEING, UH, DEVELOPED ALONG AND FIELD.
UM, THE TRAFFIC FROM OUR PROJECT WILL ENTER AND EXIT ON WINDSOR AND FIELD.
UH, ANOTHER CONCERN WAS, UH, FOR A LACK OF VEGETATION, UM, ON THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY OF OUR CURRENT LANDSCAPE PLAN HAS SOME ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS ALONG AND FIELD.
UM, THERE'S A RIGHT OF WAY, DEDICATION AND ADDITIONAL FIVE FOOT RIGHT AWAY, DEDICATION THAT WE'RE GRANTING.
AND I WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE, UM, UH, IN, IN SUPPORT OF, UH, ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL ORNAMENTAL TREES ALONG THAT, UM, THAT FIVE FOOT STRIP ALONG THE ENFIELD ROAD.
UM, ANOTHER CONCERN, UM, UH, WAS ABOUT THE QUESTION OF THE PLACEMENT, THE BUILDING ON THE SITE.
AND SO, UM, THIS SITE HAS, UH, SEVERAL CHALLENGES TO IT.
UM, IT HAS A KIND OF AN ODD GEOMETRY.
IT'S GOT A RELATIVELY SIGNIFICANT SLOPE FROM ENFIELD, UM, UH, TO THE, UH, FROM THE BACK OF THE SITE TO ENFIELD.
AND IT HAS SEVERAL LARGE HERITAGE TREES TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND THERE'S ONLY ONE OPTION FOR INGRESS EGRESS AND THAT'S THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY ON WINDSOR, UM, IN LOOKING AT THIS COMBINATION OF FACTORS.
UM, SO THERE WERE SOME PRIMARY THINGS THAT, THAT DROVE, UH, THE, THE MASTER PLANNING AND THE PLANNING AND THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE SITE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WAS WE WANTED TO PRESERVE THE KIND OF INTERIOR, BE THE FULL KIND OF PARK-LIKE SETTING OF THE PROJECT
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THAT'S CREATED BY THAT THE HERITAGE TREES TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.THAT WAS TIME, BUT I STILL HAVE THIS TIME.
CAN YOU WRAP UP PLEASE? SURE, SURE.
UM, UH, WE, WE HAVE TO KEEP, WHICH WE WERE ATTEMPTING TO KEEP THE OVERALL MASSING OF THE BUILDING DOWN BY PUTTING THE, DIGGING THE BUILDING INTO THE HILLSIDE AND KEEPING IT OVER.
I'LL HAVE ELEVATION COMMENSURATE WITH THE ADJACENT BUILDINGS.
UM, AND ALSO WE WERE CONCEALING THE PARKING IN HIS BASEMENT LEVEL, UH, AREA, UH, WITH THE SLOPE AND THE TREES.
THE PARKING IN THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROJECT WAS REALLY THE ONLY PRACTICAL OPTION WITH THE NUMBER OF SPACES REQUIRED.
SO, UM, I WILL WRAP UP AND, UH, I WILL BE HERE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS REBECCA DOBBY.
REBECCA, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? OKAY.
UM, DO WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS? OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS PEARSON ALTIZER.
UM, OTHER SPEAKERS, OUR LAST SPEAKER ON THIS CASE IS ROSEMARY MERRIAM.
ROSEMARY, ARE YOU THERE? I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE ARE JUST DROPPING OFF OR WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT WE'RE NOT HEARING FROM EVERYONE.
[3.D.1. PR-2020-183612 – 1601 Brackenridge Street – Discussion Council District 9]
TO D ONE 1601 BRACKENRIDGE OR DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? OUR FIRST SPEAKER SIGNED UP ON ITEM D ONE IS MARK HUTCHINSON.MR. HUTCHINSON, ARE YOU THERE? YES, SAME HERE.
HI, MY NAME IS MARK HUTCHINSON.
UM, I'VE SPOKEN, UH, LAST MONTH I SPOKE WITH EVERYONE WE'VE SINCE GIVEN SOME DETAILS THAT ELIZABETH, UH, REQUESTED, UM, REGARDING THIS HOME.
UM, QUICK REMINDER, THE PRIOR OWNER HAD SUBMITTED A FULL DEMOLITION PERMIT.
UM, I MET WITH STEVE SET OUT KEY BEFORE PURCHASING A LOT FROM THAT OWNER.
STEVE WALKED ME THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITHIN THE EXISTING BUILDING, UM, AND KIND OF CONVINCE ME OF THE MERITS.
WE NOW NO LONGER PLAN AFFORD EMULATION.
UM, WE WILL FORMALLY SUBMIT FOR A PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT.
WE WERE ADVISED AT FIRST BY STEVE TO, UM, KEEP THIS PERMIT EXISTING.
SO THAT KIND OF PROCESS WOULD COME THROUGH, UM, WITH EVERYONE HERE.
UM, WE'VE SINCE UPDATED THE CLAIMS DARK TECH, UM, IT'S ESSENTIALLY, UH, THE, THE GIST OF IT IS WHAT Y WAS PRESENTED LAST MONTH.
UM, THE ONES WHO ARE LAST MONTH WITH SOMETHING I DID PERSONALLY ON SKETCHUP, I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT.
UM, SO THESE NOW ARE JUST CLEANED UP PROPER DIMENSIONS, PROPER PLANS.
UM, THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD, UM, HAS EXPERIENCED GOING THROUGH THE HISTORIC PROCESS.
I'LL BE THE OWNER, UM, LOOKING TO LIVE IN A HOME AND I'M A CONTRACTOR AS WELL.
AND I HAVE EXPERIENCED GOING THROUGH CONSTRUCTION ON, UM, AN OLD HOME, UH, SIMILAR THEY'RE A BIT OLDER.
UM, SO YEAH, VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS PROCESS.
I THINK THERE WILL BE DISCUSSION LATER ON.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A BIT FOR NOW.
UM, OVERALL GOAL IS TO, YOU KNOW, IN A YEAR'S TIME I WOULDN'T RUN DONE WHEN SOMEONE'S WALKING BY THAT CORNER, WHICH IS A VERY VISIBLE CORNER.
UM, THIS SHOULD EFFECTIVELY LOOK, YOU KNOW, EXACT SAME AS THE HOUSE, UM, DID, WHEN IT WAS BUILT.
WE'RE RESTORING THAT FRONT PORCH, UM, REMOVING A BACK CONDITION THAT WAS ADDED THAT WASN'T HISTORIC.
UM, AND THE MAIN CHANGE WILL BE ADDING A REAR ON HIM, BUT THAT REAR ON, IN SHOULD MATCH THE FRONT AWNING, WHICH IS HISTORIC.
UM, SO WE THINK HE'LL VERY MUCH BE IN LINE WITH KIND OF THE GOALS OF THE BUILDING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, MY NEXT SPEAKER IS MASON MOORE, MR. MOORE? YEAH, THREE MINUTES.
CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME OKAY? YES.
SO MARK DID A GREAT JOB OF INTRODUCING THE PROJECT.
SO I'LL JUST QUICKLY WALK THROUGH THE PLANS AND ELEVATIONS WITH YOU.
UM, AS HE NOTED, UH, THE GOAL IS TO, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THE APPEARANCE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING WITH, UH, THREE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES.
ONE WOULD BE THE REMOVAL OF AN ADDITION TO THE EAST.
UM, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, UH, THE FRONT PORCH HAS BEEN ENCLOSED, SO WE WILL BE RE UH, OPENING THAT PORCH BACK UP
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AND, UM, AND SO DOING, WE WILL BE RELOCATING, UH, THE EXISTING WINDOWS AND DOORS THAT, UM, THAT ENCLOSED THAT FRONT PORCH NOW.AND THEN HE HAD ALSO MENTIONED THE, THE DORMERS ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND OTHERS TO CREATE SOME MORE USABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE UP THERE WILL BE, UM, WILL BE ADDED.
AND THE GOAL WOULD BE KEEP A VERY SIMILAR STYLE TO AN EXISTING DORMER ON THE WEST ELEVATION.
UM, HAVING LOOKED A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY AT THAT ROOF LINE, UH, BOTH THE SLOPE OF THE ROOF AND THE HEIGHT OF THE ROOF, WHERE, UM, WE ARE SHOWING THE DORMERS SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN THE EXISTING, AND THAT'S JUST TO CREATE, UM, MORE, UH, HEAD CLEARANCE ON THAT SECOND FLOOR.
UM, AND, BUT I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL MAINTAINING FAIRLY SIMILAR APPEARANCE.
UM, AND THEN OTHER ITEMS TO KNOW ARE THAT WE WOULD BE REMOVING, RESTORING AND REINSTALLING ALL THE EXISTING HISTORIC WINDOWS, UM, RESTORING THE EXISTING BRICK DETAILS ON BOTH THE FRONT PORCH COLUMNS AND THE, AND THE CHIMNEY.
AND THEN THERE'S, UH, ALSO SOME ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS ON THE DEEP ROOF OVERHANG.
SOME CORBELS ON THE RAKE ENDS AND THE DEEP OVERHANGS TOO, ON THE EAVES.
AND SO ALL OF THAT ROOF PROFILE WOULD BE MAINTAINED AS WELL.
UM, THERE'S ALSO SORT OF A DISTINCTIVE, UH, LIKE SHINGLED WOOD SKIRT, UM, THAT'S FLARED, AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE MAINTAINED AS WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL, UM, DOUBLE DROP, UH, SIDING.
UM, AND THAT, I BELIEVE THAT COVERS THE PROJECT.
ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS? THOSE ARE ALL THE SPEAKERS WE HAVE ON THIS CASE.
[3.D.2. PR-2020-192534 – 503 E. Annie Street – Discussion Council District 9 (Part 1 of 2)]
D TWO.UH, MR. ASEE SCOOPED AT IS THE FIRST SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM.
I AM THE OWNER OF FIVE OH THREE, ANNIE AND THE HOME NEXT DOOR AT FIVE OH ONE EAST DANNY, WHICH IS WHERE MY WIFE, KATHLEEN AND I LIVE OUR REQUEST FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR FIVE OH THREE EAST NANNY.
IN ORDER TO BUILD A COMB COMPATIBLE WITH AGING IN PLACE FOR OUR PARENTS HAS NOT CHANGED.
HOWEVER, SINCE THE LAST HEARING, WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL NEIGHBORS, INCLUDING DURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK PARTY TWO WEEKENDS AGO, AND SHARED OUR PLANS WITH NO VOICE OBJECTIONS.
WE'VE ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE OWNER OF FIVE OH TWO EAST MARY JAMES BILODEAU, WHO WAS A REGISTERED SPEAKER AT THE LAST HEARING, DURING WHICH HE STATED HE WAS NOT IN OPPOSITION TO THE DEMOLITION.
AND SO MUCH AS BEING INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT OUR PLANES.
WE UNDERSTAND FROM JAMES THAT HE HAS SINCE PULLED HIS REGISTRATION TO SPEAK AT TODAY'S HEARING AS WELL.
I WONDER TO NOTE SOMETHING, UM, THAT'S NOT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THIS IS A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING AND THE PENDING TRAVIS HEIGHTS, UH, FAIRVIEW PARK, HISTORIC DISTRICT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS CASE? WE ALSO HAVE KATHLEEN TALKING TO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
HI, I'M TALKING TO YOU TALK NOW.
I AM
YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO STAY WITHIN THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE ALSO NEED A PLACE WHERE OUR EXPERIENCE CAN AGE, UH, ASIAN PLACES SAFELY.
OTHER SPEAKERS? NO, PROBABLY SPEAKERS SIGNED UP ON HIS CASE.
[3.D.5. HR-2021-044151 – 1304 Bob Harrison – Discussion Council District 1 (Part 1 of 2)]
1,304 BOB HARRISON STREET.UH, WITH FOX, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
UM, PLEASE STAY HERE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
UM, BUT THEY'RE TO NOTE FOR WHAT ABOUT HARRISON? UH, I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE TIME TONIGHT.
UH, WHEN WE BEGAN, I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF IT IS, UM, THIS APPLICATION FOR A PARTIAL DEMO PERMIT, UH, TO AN EXISTING 1,130 SQUARE FOOT.
UM, SINGLE, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE IN EAST AUSTIN, UM, BEGAN THE DESIGN WHEN THE CLIENTS CAME
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TO ME, UM, PATRICK AND ERICA POSITIVE, WHO ARE ALSO ON THE CALL, NOBODY'S SPEAKING NEXT.UM, EXCUSE ME, I'M OUT OF BREATH.
UM, THEY, UH, THEY APPROACHED ME AND THEY, YOU KNOW, MADE IT CLEAR THEIR INTENT WAS TO, YOU KNOW, PRESERVE THE HISTORIC HOME.
UH, THEY WANTED TO ADD ON TO IT, BUT THEY, UH, THIS WAS ACTUALLY BEFORE WE WERE, UM, AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANCE, UM, WHICH I THINK IS BEING PARTIALLY DECIDED TONIGHT.
UM, BUT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN KEEPING THE HOME, UH, INTACT AND BEING KIND OF CONSIDERATE TO, TO IT.
AND SO WE, THE DESIGN THAT WE, UM, CAME UP WITH AND ARE SUBMITTING FOR TONIGHT IS, UH, IS A 600 SQUARE FOOT ADDITION, WHICH, UM, IS TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE HOUSE.
AND IT ACTUALLY, THE PARTIAL DEMO IS TO, UH, AN ADDITION THAT WAS, UH, UM, AT A LATER STAGE, UH, THAT WAS TIMESHARE.
CAN YOU PLEASE WRAP UP YOUR TIME IS UP? SURE.
UM, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE'RE BASICALLY, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ADDITION IS SORT OF ATTEMPTING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DISTINGUISH ITSELF FROM THE HISTORIC HOUSE IN THE FRONT.
UH, IT'S SORT OF A MODERN EDITION THAT IS SIMPLE GEOMETRIC SHAPES, UM, WHICH KIND OF OFFSETS ITSELF FROM THE FRONT HOUSE.
AND WE'RE KEEPING THE KIND OF BOARD AND BATTEN SIDING, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE REPLACING THE WINDOWS IN THE SAME LOCATIONS WITH, UH, WITH CLOUD WINDOWS TO, UM, REPLICATE THE KIND OF AESTHETIC OF THE HOME ORIGINAL HOME.
THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
YEAH, PATRICK ROSINS OKAY, GO AHEAD.
WELL, UH, JUST ADDING ON HERE, WE FEEL LIKE THE, UH, RENOVATION DESIGN THAT, UH, WE'VE KIND OF PLAYED WITH WITH WILL RESPECT THE HISTORICAL AESTHETIC OF, OF THE HOUSE AND THE AESTHETIC OF HOMES BUILT IN A SIMILAR STYLE IN THE SAME TIME PERIOD.
AND, UH, WE WERE OPEN TO HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
IF IT FALLS IN LINE WITH THE GENERAL PLANS, AS THEY'RE CURRENTLY DESIGNED, UH, IF THE LANDMARK STATICS REQUIRES SIGNIFICANT ALTERATION TO THESE PLANS, UH, WE BECOME A LITTLE LESS INTERESTED, UH, AS STATED WE FEEL LIKE THE DESIGN, ESPECIALLY FROM, UH, THAT THE STREET VIEW, RESPECTING PRESERVES THE CIRCLE SYMBOLISM AND THE AESTHETIC OF THE HOME AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OUR LAST SPEAKERS SIGNED UP IS ERICA BROSSMAN.
WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF IN A CRAZY HOUSE WITH A COD THERE RIGHT NOW, SO I SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT PATRICK AND HOMESTEAD.
THE NEXT CASE BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I HEARD FROM, UH, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS REGISTERED FOR ITEM C 10, THAT THEY WERE UNABLE TO SPEAK EARLIER.
UH, IS ROSEMARY MERRIAM STILL ON THE LINE? ROSEMARY, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE LOST HER AGAIN.
WE CAN SEE HER NUMBER AND SHE IS NOT MUTED ON OUR END.
WELL, WILL WE NEED TO GO ON, UM, OUR NEXT ITEM IS A 2040 EAST CESAR CHAVEZ, UH, COMMISSIONER THERE, NO SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR THAT ITEM.
[3.D.9. HR-2021-044104 – 1807 Brackenridge St. – Discussion Council District 9 (Part 1 of 2)]
D NINE, UH, WITH ALISON SEARCY ONE.AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF 1807 BRACKENRIDGE STREET.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
UM, SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLARIFYING, THIS IS A PERMIT FOR A RELOCATION.
UM, I'VE BEEN IN THE HOUSE FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS AND
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ADMIT THAT THIS IS A WONDERFUL HOUSE.IT'S A WONDERFUL BUT OLD HOUSE.
UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, UM, CALLED THE REUSE PEOPLE OF AMERICA TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOME IS ACTUALLY RELOCATED TO ANOTHER LOCATION.
UM, SO WE ARE, AS WE LOOK TO HAVE A NEW BUILD PERMIT ON THIS LOCATION, LIKE SEVERAL OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS TONIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A REASON, I APPRECIATE THE, THE, UM, VIEW AND THE, UM, DESIGN OF THE LOCATION OF THE DIFFERENT HOUSES THAT ARE HERE AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING IN LINE WITH THAT AESTHETIC.
SO WORKING WITH MY DESIGNER, UM, AND MY, UM, CONTRACTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THAT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE HOUSE BEING, UM, PRESERVED, UM, AND NOT JUST DEMOED AND THROWN AWAY, AND ALSO LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKING SURE THAT THE DESIGN OF THE NEW HOUSE AND STAYING IN A WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN LINE WITH THE ARCHITECTS AND THE DESIGN THAT THE OTHER HOUNDS THAT ARE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY, IT'S NOT NOTED ON OUR AGENDA, BUT THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING IN THE PENDING TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK, UM, HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND IT WOULD BE REMOVING A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK ON IT? WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP, UH, FOR THAT, SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM D 12.
W WHAT ABOUT D 10, NINE OH SEVEN WEST 22ND AND A HALF STRAIGHT.
WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM DETAILS.
[3.D.12. PR-2021-048041, GF-2021-050281 – 905 E. 2nd St. – Discussion Council District 3 (Part 1 of 2)]
GO ON TO D 12.THIS IS NINE OH FIVE EAST SECOND STREET.
UH, OUR FIRST SPEAKER SIGNED UP IS LUCIANA CORWIN.
MS. CORWIN, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
HI, THIS IS LUCIANA CALLER I'M WITH EGIS, ZION.
JUST WHAT I MENTIONED THAT ONCE WE DESIGNED THIS HOUSE, THE MAIN, UM, PRIORITY ON THE EQUITY OF THE EXISTING HOUSE AND AT THE SAME TIME, UH, SHOULD BE FOR THE LIFESTYLE OF THE FAMILY.
UM, SO WE, WE FIXED EVERYTHING HOME.
WE INTEND TO PRESERVE AND DEFAULT, UM, ON THE HOUSE PRETTY MUCH A LITTLE BIT CHANGE THE FLOOR PLAN, BUT NOT MUCH NOT CONSIDERABLE AND BRINGING THEIR OWN, UM, THE NEW ROOMS THAT, UM, THE OWNERS NEEDS IN ORDER TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, UM, GOOD MODEL.
SO JUST WANT TO, THAT WE TRY IN THE, IN THE NEW PART OF THE HOUSE, SHE BRING THE ROOF LINES FROM THE EXISTING HOME.
WE TRY TO KEEP THE EXISTING ROOF MATERIAL.
WE, WE TRY TO BRING AS MUCH AS WE COULD FROM THE WINDOWS, THE STYLE.
UM, WE ALSO, UM, CONTAIN THE OLDER EDITION OF THE HOUSE BEHIND THE HOUSE.
UH, SO THIS WAY WE HAVE THE MAIN FOCUS ON THE EXISTING HISTORICAL HOUSE.
UM, WE HAD SOME LIMITATIONS ON THE LOT, LIKE, UM, IT'S A MIRROR LOCK IN LONG, SO NOT MUCH SPACE TO WORK ON.
ALSO WE'RE GETTING SOME PROTECTED TREES.
AND, UM, ANOTHER THING WE WANT TO POINT OUT TO POINT OUT THAT IT WAS ONE OF YOUR, IT WAS ONE OF YOUR, THE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION IS A EIGHT FOOT CEILING.
SO, UM, IT'S NOT THAT THE HIGH, WE COULD NOT EVEN GO HIGHER IN THE MCMANSION, BUT I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT WHEN YOU'RE PROBABLY LOOKING FROM THE STREETS, THE BACK AND THE ADDITIONS WILL NOT BE SO VISIBLE.
JUST WANT TO COME SEE THAT THE NEEDS AND NOTHING, MY FRIENDS, UM, NEEDS FOR THIS, FOR THEIR HEALTH.
DO WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS CASE? OUR LAST SPEAKER SIGNED UP IS BRIAN THOMPSON.
COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, BUT EVEN COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THE PROPERTY IS NINE OH FIVE EAST SECOND.
AND I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THIS PERMIT.
I I'M A 25 YEAR RESIDENT OF AUSTIN AND A TWO-YEAR RESIDENT AT THE PROPERTY.
AND MY PARTNER, SARAH WHO'S JOINED ME HERE FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
WE FEEL VERY FORTUNATE TO BE IN THE HOUSE AND THE LOCATION THAT WE'RE IN.
UM, IT'S LIKELY THAT, UH, THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE BEYOND OUR MEANS AND TODAY'S HOUSING MARKET.
SO WE, WE REALLY VALUE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CHARACTER
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AND HISTORY THAT IT HAS, AND WE WANT OUR HOUSE TO CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.SO WHEN WE LOOK AT STARTED WITH THIS PROJECT, WE WERE DETERMINED TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTER AND SPIRIT OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.
EVEN AS SOME TOLD US, WE'D BE BETTER OFF TRYING TO TEAR DOWN OR, OR START NEW.
SO WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR DESIGN ARCHITECTS PROFESSIONALS TO DEVELOP A PLAN WITHIN OUR BUDGET FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HOUSE THAT, THAT BRING IT UP TO MODERN LIVING STANDARDS, UM, MINIMIZE VISUAL IMPACT AS BEST WE COULD AND COMPLIMENT WHERE THEY'RE VISIBLE WHILE, WHILE ALSO SHOWCASING THE CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY OF THE ORIGINAL HOUSE.
AND, UM, PARDON ME, LEAVE, WE'VE REVIEWED STAFF COMMENTS AND APPRECIATE THEIR WORK RECOMMENDATIONS AND RESEARCH.
SO I'D LIKE TO QUICKLY SPEAK TO OUR APPROACH TO THE PROJECT.
AND I THINK LUCIANA TOUCHED ON A LITTLE OF THIS, BUT OUR, OUR, OUR DESIGN IS CONSTRAINED NOT ONLY TO BUY THE NARROW LOT AND REQUIRED SETBACKS, BUT ALSO IN OUR EXISTING STORE STRUCTURE, A GOOD SIZE Y BOOK, UM, THAT WE'RE WORKING TO PRESERVE AS WELL AS THE CONS AROUND THE, AROUND THE PERIMETER.
UH, UM, OUR FIRST CONCEPTUAL DESIGN, UH, ON WHICH WE SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND ENERGY STARTED BACK IN 2018 AND THE CAN AS A, AS A SINGLE STORY ADDITION ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, BUT THE SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE TO THE IMPERVIOUS COVER, UM, BY THE FOOTPRINT AND ITS PROXIMITY TO THE REAR ALLEY, UH, ALONG WITH THE COST OF REHAB, THE EXISTING, WE HAVING THE EXISTING AND ADDING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE REALLY CAUSED US TO CHANGE COURSE.
UM, AND SO WE SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME.
YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME IN OUR BACKYARD.
WE ALSO, WE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY VALUE OUR OUTDOOR SPACE THAT WE HAVE, AND WE WANT TO PRESERVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR ACTIVITIES.
WE ENJOY LIKE VEGETABLE AND NATIVE PLANT.
UH, SARAH ALSO LOVES THE FREQUENTLY BEATEN AT A, AT A GAME OF HORSESHOES.
UM, ANYWAY, OUR, OUR PROPERTY IS, UH, IT'S ALSO ADJACENT TO A GENERAL COMMERCIAL MIXED USE ZONING PROPERTY THAT FRONTS EACH OF US TO THE SOUTH.
AND IT'S SEPARATED BY A HEAVILY TRAVELED ALLEY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE VARIOUS USES BEHIND OUR PROPERTY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS.
UH, WE WE'VE HAD A PARTICULAR CHALLENGE WITH NOISE AND SOUND FROM VARIOUS EVENTS, MUSIC EVENTS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
UM, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, FREQUENTLY NIGHT GARBAGE COLLECTIONS, THE CURRENT, UH, USES IT'S FOOD TRUCKS WITH THE FUTURE BEING, BEING UNKNOWN.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL PART OF URBAN LIVING.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT'S OUR HOPE THAT THIS DESIGN WILL HELP, UH, MAINTAIN MOST OF THE BUFFER DISTANCE AND YARD SPACE THAT WE HAVE FROM THE CURRENT AND FUTURE USES OF THE ADJACENT ALLIUM AND PROPERTY.
ALL OF THESE ARE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS THAT LED TO THE TWO-STORY ADDITIONALLY PUT FORWARD.
UM, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE PROPOSED DESIGN FOR THE NORTHWEST ELEVATION INTRODUCES CHANGES THE MAYBE NOTICE AS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL, BUT AGAIN, CONSIDERING THE SITE.
UM, DID YOU GET AN ART CONSTRAINT? AND IT'S OUR HOPE THAT THE LARGE PECANS ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, ALONG WITH PRIVACY GATE AND, YOU KNOW, THE FENCING THAT'S EXISTING WILL DIMINISH THE ALTERATIONS WHEN VIEWED OBLIQUELY FROM THE STREET.
AND I REALIZED THAT I'M PROBABLY SHORT ON TIME.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL QUICKLY CONCLUDE.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND THE ADDITION SHOULD APPEAR SUBORDINATE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WORK TO DESIGN WORK TOWARDS THE DESIGN THAT, THAT SETS THE SECOND FLOOR ADDITION, WELL BEHIND THE ROOF RIDGE RIDGE LINE.
LET ME FEEL THAT FROM A PERSPECTIVE VIEW, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S WALKING BY THE HOUSE THEY'RE DRIVING BY THAT THIS PLAN WORKS TO DIMINISH THE ADDITION.
UM, I THINK IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED BY LUCIANNE.
WE, WE WE'VE KEPT THE CEILING, UH, ON THE SECOND FLOOR TO, TO EIGHT FEET AT THE EXTERIOR WALLS TO ADDITIONALLY MINIMIZE HEIGHT.
UM, THE BOARD AND BATTEN PROPOSED ON THE SECOND FLOOR ADDITION WAS, WAS INSPIRED BY OUR OLD SHED, BUT, UH, AND WAS INTENDED TO DIFFERENTIATE THE, THE NEW FROM THE OLD AND STATUS INDICATED THIS IS THE SETTING IS NOT NECESSARILY COMPATIBLE.
AND IT'S AN EMPHASIZE THE HEIGHT OF THE ADDITION.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T CONSIDER, UH, IN THE DESIGN.
AND WE'RE VERY MUCH AMENABLE TO OTHER HORIZONTAL SIDING OPTIONS TO HELP, TO HELP APPEAR SUBORDINATE AND COMPATIBLE.
AND FINALLY, REGARDING THE WINDOWS SUITE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE RECOGNIZE THE NORTHWEST ELEVATION IN PARTICULAR INTRODUCES WINDOW PLACEMENT AND SIZES THAT ARE MORE REGULAR THAN THE ORIGINAL, BUT, BUT WE REALLY FEEL THAT THEY'RE NECESSARY FOR THE ATTENDANCE, THE INTERIOR FUNCTIONALITY AND BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION RELATIVE TO THE SITE.
UM, WE HOPE THAT THEY'LL BE DIMINISHED AND LESS NOTICEABLE FOR THE REASONS THAT I, THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.
UM, I BELIEVE I'M PROBABLY OUT OF TIME, SO I'LL LEAVE IT THERE.
UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CONSIDERING OUR INPUT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OKAY.
I THINK THAT'S THE END OF, UM, THAT'S THE END OF OUR SPEAKERS.
SO NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA AND START OVER.
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OUR FIRST ITEM IS 53 12 SHOAL CREEK BOULEVARD.THIS IS THE CONE HOUSE, AND THIS IS FOR A RECOMMENDED HISTORIC ZONING.
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YES.THIS IS ELIZABETH BRUMMETT WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.
WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT RELATED TO THE CONE HOUSE.
UH, THE FIRST OF THOSE IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING.
UH, THIS IS AN, UH, OWNER INITIATED REQUEST TO, UH, RECEIVE HISTORIC RECOGNITION FOR THIS HOME.
UH, THE SECOND, UH, RELATED PROJECT IS ITEM B ONE, WHICH IS A CONSIDERATION OF AN ADDITION TO THE HOUSE.
UH, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT THOSE, UH, TOGETHER TONIGHT, BUT WE WILL NEED TWO SEPARATE VOTES.
SO, UH, TO BEGIN WITH THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THE CONE HOUSE IS SIGNIFICANT FOR ITS ASSOCIATION WITH ENTREPRENEUR ADOLF CONE.
UH, CONE WAS A GERMAN IMMIGRANT AND WORKED IN MULTIPLE CITIES IN THE U S AND, UH, MULTIPLE POSITIONS, EVEN WHEN HE REACHED AUSTIN AS A PASTRY CHEF BEFORE FOUNDING THE BON TON BAKERY ON CONGRESS AVENUE IN 1902.
UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST KNOWN BAKERIES IN AUSTIN AND ITS TIME, THE BAKERY PRODUCED PAN DANDY BREAD, UH, WHICH WAS SECOND ONLY TO MRS. BAIRD'S IN TERMS OF ITS REGIONAL SALES, UH, CONE LEVERAGED HIS, UH, BAKERY SUCCESS AND TO OTHER ENTERPRISES, HE FOUNDED CAPITAL NATIONAL BANK IN 1934, AND THEN BEGAN WORKING IN REAL ESTATE, UH, WITH ROLES IN DOWNTOWN AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT IN THE 1920S AND THIRTIES.
UH, THIS INCLUDED THE SHOW MONT EDITION, WHERE THE CONE HOUSE IS LOCATED, UH, COMB PURCHASED THIS LAND IN 1928 AND BEGAN SUBDIVIDING IN 1935, UH, CONTEMPORARY NEWSPAPER ARTICLES.
DESCRIBE THE DEVELOPMENT AS IDEALLY SITUATED AT THE GATEWAY TO THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS SIGNIFICANT, UM, BOTH FOR ITS ARCHITECTURE, AS WELL AS ITS ITS OVERALL SETTING.
UH, COHN SELECTED THE PREMIERE SITE WITHIN THE SHOAL MONT EDITION FOR HIS HOME.
IT'S ALSO THE DEEPEST PROPERTY BETWEEN SHOAL CREEK BOULEVARD AND SHEL CREEK.
AND, UH, THERE ARE MANY MATURE OAK TREES ON THE SITE.
UH, THE ARCHITECT OF THE HOUSE IS UNKNOWN, UH, BUT THE DESIGN IS POSSIBLY ATTRIBUTED TO COHN HIMSELF.
UH, IT'S A VERY ECLECTIC, UM, THIS SOMEWHAT GERMAN INSPIRED AND THE SITE ALSO INCLUDES AN ACCESSORY BUILDING.
UH, YOU WILL KNOW THAT THERE WERE TWO VERSIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT.
UH, I REALIZED I HAD BEEN, UH, MISTAKEN AND UNDERSTANDING THERE TO BE TWO ACCESSORY BUILDINGS ON THE SITE.
UM, SO I WANTED TO GET THAT CORRECT FOR THE RECORD.
UM, SO BEING ABLE TO SUBMIT, DID YOU HAVE ANY SLIDES TO GO WITH THIS? I AM SO SORRY.
I THOUGHT I WAS SHARING THE SCREEN AND I SEE THE, I AM NOT THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR CALLING THAT TO MY ATTENTION.
AND I WAS MOVING ALONG WITH THEM WITH THE PRESENTATION.
SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE, UH, THESE IMAGES THAT THE ARCHITECT HAS PUT TOGETHER, UH, SHOWING THE VIEW FROM, UH, SHOAL CREEK BOULEVARD HERE AT THE TOP.
UM, THIS IS THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AT THE BOTTOM AND THE SINGLE ACCESSORY BUILDING ON THE SITE IS SHOWN HERE.
WHAT WE ARE ALSO CONSIDERING IS AN ADDITION TO THE PROPERTY AND WHETHER WITH THAT ADDITION, THE PROPERTY REMAINS ELIGIBLE FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
UH, SO THIS PROJECT WENT BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND, UH, THE ARCHITECT HAS RESPONDED TO FEEDBACK FROM THAT COMMITTEE.
UM, BUT I THINK THE COMMITTEE'S GENERAL COMMENTS STILL STAND, WHICH IS A CONCERN, UM, IT, AS IT EXISTS PRESENTLY, THE ONLY TWO-STORY ELEMENTS OF THE HOUSE IS THIS, THIS HIPPED ROOF TOWER.
AND SO THE PROPOSED ADDITION IS, IS, UH, RELATIVELY MODEST IN SCALE.
IT IS, UM, SET BACK BEHIND THE RIDGE LINE OF THE ROOF.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S FOR THE COMMISSION TO EVALUATE IF THIS COMPETES TOO MUCH WITH THE HISTORIC TOWER ELEMENTS.
UH, THERE'S REALLY DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE ANY, UM, RENDERING OR PLAN TO SHOW THE EXISTING VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, JUST SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE YOU NEED TO TOGGLE BACK AND FORTH AND THE PRESENTATION.
UM, SO THIS IS, UH, WHAT IS PROPOSED.
I TAKE US UP TO THE BEGINNING.
SO THIS IS THE EXISTING HAVE A SIMILAR VIEW.
SO THIS IS A FREESTANDING TOWER ELEMENT HERE AT PRESENT.
UM, IF WE LOOK AT THE PLANS, UM, SO THIS IS THE EXISTING PLAN.
THIS IS THE, UH, THE BROKEN ROOF PITCH THAT THE ARCHITECT DESCRIBED AS BEING A NON-ORIGINAL FEATURE THAT WILL BE REMOVED.
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UM, IF WE LOOK AT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THERE'S, THERE'S RELATIVELY LITTLE, THAT'S BEING ALTERED.WE ARE KEEPING THAT STONE ON ALL SIDES, BUT IT IS BEING SURROUNDED BY THE ADDITION.
SO BACK TO THE RENDERING, UM, THIS IS THE ADDITION SHOWN HERE FROM THE FRONT, AND THIS IS THE ADDITION SHOWN FROM THE SIDE.
UH, SO THE, THE EXISTING HISTORIC ENDS HERE, THERE'S A SMALL PIECE THAT'S BEING REMOVED.
AND, UM, I'LL TOGGLE BACK AGAIN.
THE SIDING HERE IS A METAL SIDING ALUMINUM SIDING AND IS NOT THOUGHT TO BE ORIGINAL, IT'S THOUGHT TO BE AN ENCLOSURE.
SO THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH ME ON THE LET'S SEE.
SO HERE IS THE, THIS IS THE ONLY SECTION OF HOUSE THAT DOES NOT HAVE STONE SIDING, UH, WHICH IS WHY IT'S THOUGHT TO BE AN ENCLOSURE.
UM, THERE'S ALSO THE BREAK IN ROOF PITCH AND SOME EVIDENCE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME, SOME COINS HERE THAT WERE TAKEN OUT TO PIECE N THIS EXTENSION OF THE STONE.
THE ELEMENT THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT REGARDING THE DESIGN IS THE, UH, THE PROPOSAL LANDSCAPE MODIFICATIONS, UH, AND RESPONSE TO COMMITTEE FEEDBACK.
UM, WE NO LONGER HAVE A TRELLIS HERE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
UH, THERE IS STILL KIND OF A BUILT-IN LOW LIMESTONE WALL, AND THAT CREATES AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN, UM, THAT IS SHIELDED FROM VIEW AND PART BY THESE, THESE TALLER GRASS PLANTINGS.
AND, UH, THE PIECE THAT I FIND TO BE OF CONCERN IS THE ADDITION OF THIS FENCE AT THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY, UH, BOTH THIS HOUSE AND THE HOUSES WITHIN THE SHOW, MONT ADDITION ALONG SHOAL CREEK BOULEVARD ARE CHARACTERIZED BY VERY OPEN FRONT LAWNS.
AND SO, UH, THIS WOULD BE A DEPARTURE FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE TWO SEQUENTIAL VOTES HERE.
UM, AND BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE VOTE, THERE WAS ACTUALLY ONE ADDITIONAL PIECE THAT I NEED TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD, UH, WHICH AS YOU HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORING OWNER TO THE REAR, THAT THERE IS A BOUNDARY DISPUTE, UH, IN TERMS OF WHERE THAT BACK BOUNDARY IS ALONG SHOAL CREEK.
UH, WE DO NEED TO HAVE THAT RESOLVED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PROPERTY BEING ZONED AS HISTORIC BEFORE THAT ZONING PASSES COUNCIL.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT RESOLVE TONIGHT.
UH, THE COMMISSION CAN STILL CONSIDER THIS CASE ON ITS MERITS, UH, FOR HISTORIC ZONING.
AND TO KNOW THAT STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT DISPUTE, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY ON A RESOLVED BEFORE THE ZONING IS FINALIZED.
SO WHAT WE'RE TAKING UP FIRST IS THE HISTORIC ZONING ASPECT.
IS THERE A MOTION ON THE TABLE COMMISSIONER ALL MOVE TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING, PENDING RESOLUTION OF THE BOUNDARY DISPUTE? OKAY.
TREY IS SECONDING THIS, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, WOULD YOU LIKE SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION AND SECOND? SURE.
UM, IT'S GOING TO KIND OF DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING, UH, ITEM WITH THE ADDITION, BUT IT MAY AS WELL DISCUSS SOME, UH, IN TANDEM IT'S AN IMPORTANT AND PROMINENT HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S TRULY A KEYSTONE PROPERTY, STRONG HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS.
IT'S THE, THE ADDITION, I THINK IS PROBABLY THE ONLY THING THAT THAT IS GOING TO PRESENT ANY HESITATION.
UH, I DO THINK THE ADDITION HAS HAD SOME ISSUES, UH, BUT THE IMPACT ON THE HISTORIC FABRIC IS, IS REALLY MINIMAL.
AND I JUST A SMALL SECTION, I BELIEVE A STONE AT THE BOTTOM OF A WINDOW TO TURN IT INTO A DOOR.
AND THE QUESTION I HAD WAS WHY CAN'T YOU JUST MAKE IT A ONE STORY ADDITIONAL IN SUCH A HUGE PROPERTY, BUT AFTER SEEING THE SITE PLAN AND SEEING THE NUMBER OF TREES IN THE BACK, UH, I CAN SEE THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY HAD.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADD A SECOND STORY TO A BUILDING THAT ALREADY HAS A SECOND STORY, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE SECOND STORY, SO IT WOULD HAVE TO ATTACH SOMEWHERE.
AND I THINK THEY REALLY DID MAKE AN EFFORT TO MAKE IT AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE.
I DO HAVE SOME HESITATIONS ABOUT IT, BUT AT THE RISK OF LOSING THE DESIGNATION OF A TRULY IMPORTANT PROPERTY, UH, I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THE, UM, THE ADDITIONAL HAS PROPOSED COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT.
THE MOTION WAS TO RECOMMEND A QUICK
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LOTION IS TO INITIATE.WOULD WE DO THAT FIRST STAB ELIZABETH? WE SAW THIS BEFORE, BUT WAS IT JUST AT THE, UM, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE? IT WAS AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE FULL COMMISSION IS SEEING IT.
UM, AND PLEASE, EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE ON THIS.
UM, THIS IS, THIS IS AN APPLICANT, UM, INITIATED APPLICATION.
SO I BELIEVE IT IS THE APPROPRIATE ACTION FOR THE COMMISSION TO, FROM THEIR RECOMMEND, UH, AS COMPARED WITH A, AN OWNER OPPOSED A DEMOLITION APPLICATION WHERE THE COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO INITIATE THE APPLICATION UNLESS SHE ATE AND GET FURTHER INFORMATION AND THEN RECOMMENDED AT THE SUBSEQUENT MEETING.
ANY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE CONE HOUSE.
NOW WE GO ON TO, UM, THE PROPOSED ALTERATIONS TO, YOU SAID LANDMARK.
COMMISSIONER, WE NEED A SEPARATE PRESENTATION OR CAN I MAKE A MOTION ON THAT? I THINK WE, WE HEARD THE PRESENTATION WAS FOR ITEMS SO WE CAN MAKE A MOTION AT THIS POINT.
GOD, I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS.
I GUESS IT'S A CART BEFORE HORSE, BUT, UM, APPROVED THE DESIGN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PERIMETER FENCE.
IS THAT OKAY? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION? ANYONE? UH, I, I THINK I'D ALREADY STATED, YOU KNOW, MOST OF MY CONCERNS, I DO HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS, BUT I CAN SEE THE RESTRICTIONS THEY HAD AND, UH, THE, THE FENCE LINE, I WOULD SAY THAT THE FENCE NEEDS TO COME BACK ON A REDESIGN TO MAKE IT, MAKE IT REALLY GO AWAY, TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND THE APPRECIATION FOR SECURITY.
AND WE HAVE APPROVED A FENCE AT ANOTHER LANDMARK PROPERTY FAIRLY RECENTLY FOR SECURITY REASONS, BUT IT CAN BE DONE IN A MUCH MORE TONED DOWN WAY.
AND I DO APPRECIATE THEIR REMOVING THE TRELLIS, WHICH WAS, UH, BLOCKING THE FULL FACADE.
SO I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, UH, ALTHOUGH THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT NOTED THAT SHE WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THE TRAIL GONE, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE NECESSARY FOR, TO SUPPORT MY MOTION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION I STILL HAVE.
I AGREE WITH KEVIN I, THAT THE FENCE JUST IS IT'S LOCATION DEPENDENT.
AND IN THIS CASE, I DON'T BELIEVE THE FENCE IT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
SO I, I, UH, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT AND I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE THERE'S A WAY YOU CAN HAVE THE FENCE AND, AND SOFTEN IT.
KEVIN, I THINK IT'S EITHER FENCE OR NO FENCE ALMOST, BUT, UH, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, I THINK NOT.
UM, I'M NOT JUST THE FENCE DOESN'T DOES CONCERN ME BECAUSE OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, I THINK, TO APPRECIATE THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
UH, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT LONG VIEW, UM, COMMISSIONER, RIGHT? UM, I'M LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I DRIVE PAST THIS AND IT IS, HOW IS THIS ALONG? THIS STRETCH OF SHOAL CREEK REALLY DO HAVE THE WIDE OPEN YARDS.
AND I THINK THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.
UM, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY WHAT'S, I THINK THIS IS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE THIS HOUSE HAS SOME REALLY ODD PROPORTIONS WITH THE SIZE AND LOCATION OF THAT SECOND STORY.
AND INTERESTINGLY, I THINK THE ADDITION KIND OF LESSENS THE ODDITY, UM, WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD NORMALLY WANT TO SEE.
UM, BUT GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH HERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ACCEPTABLE AND IT'S CLEARLY DIFFERENTIATED.
I STILL, YOU KNOW, I, I KIND OF LIKED THAT ODDITY, UM, BEING AN ODDITY MYSELF, UM, YEAH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALTHOUGH I DID WANT TO, UH, APPRECIATE IT, UH, COMMISSIONER ROCHE'S COMMENTS, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO COUNTER WITH THE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE KIND OF FENCE WE DO HAVE AROUND THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION.
I THINK THAT THERE, THERE CAN BE OFFENSE THAT IS FAIRLY, FAIRLY LOW STATED AND INTERFERES AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE.
AND THE FENCE THAT WAS PROPOSED, WASN'T REALLY A SECURITY FENCE.
SO I THINK SOMETHING LOWER OR SOMETHING, UH, WITH A MUCH LOWER PROFILE COULD GIVE THE SENSE OF A BOUNDARY, UH, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING A NON-SCALABLE SECURITY FENCE THAT COULD
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STILL HAVE A VISUAL OPENNESS, BUT I ENCOURAGED THEM TO TRY FURTHER DISCUSSION.LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON, UM, THIS IS FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE, EXCEPT FOR THE FENCE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[3.B.2. C14H-1986-0015, C14H-2004-0008 – 907, 909, and 911 Congress Ave. – Discussion (postponed March 22, 2021) Grandberry Building, Mitchell-Robertson Building Congress Avenue Historic District Council District 9 (Part 2 of 2)]
TO BEAT TWO.THIS IS OUR, OUR TRIPLETS NINE OH SEVEN, NINE OH NINE AND NINE 11 CONGRESS AVENUE.
UM, WE'VE HEARD THIS COME TO THE COMMISSION BEFORE AND AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
I THINK THAT, UM, DONNA CARTER LAID OUT THE STEPS WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHAT, UM, WHAT ACTION TO TAKE HERE.
UH, YES, THIS IS ELIZABETH BROWN MET AGAIN.
UH, THIS IS NOT THE POSITION THAT I THINK ANY OF US WOULD LIKE TO BE IN TONIGHT, UH, CONSIDERING WHETHER TO ALLOW THE DECONSTRUCTION OF TWO LANDMARK BUILDINGS AND A THIRD CONTRIBUTING BUILDING WITHIN THE CONGRESS AVENUE, HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, WHETHER THAT PROJECT SHOULD PROCEED.
UH, WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SINCE THE LAST HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT THE, UM, WELL, I SHOULD NOT SAY THE MOST IMPORTANT, THERE ARE MANY IMPORTANT THINGS TO NOTE.
UH, ONE IS THAT THE APPLICANT IS DEALING WITH A VERY TIGHT TIMELINE TO RECEIVE SOME DIRECTION FROM THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AND, UH, TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD DOWN A WORKABLE PATH FOR THIS PROPERTY, THESE PROPERTIES, UH, THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION HEARD, UH, THESE CASES IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE LAST HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING.
AND AT THAT TIME, UH, GAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER 90 DAYS WITHIN WHICH TO RESOLVE THE ISSUES AT THE PROPERTIES BEYOND, UH, THE TYPES OF BASIC STABILIZATION THAT HAS BEEN DONE TO DATE, UM, TO MORE FULLY RESOLVE THE ISSUES, UH, AND RECEIVE PERMITS IN ORDER TO DO SO WITHIN 90 DAYS.
UM, THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY TIGHT TIMELINE, ESPECIALLY TO DO THE TYPE OF WORK THAT, UH, DONNA CARTER HAS OUTLINED IN THE SCOPE OF WORK.
UM, THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED THE OTHER, UM, THAT THE SCOPE OF WORK CAME IN, UH, CLOSE TO OUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING.
AND SO I WAS NOT ABLE TO REALLY REVIEW IT AND, UM, ADDRESS IT WITHIN A STAFF REPORT, UH, TO PROVIDE YOU IN TIME FOR THAT MEETING.
UH, SO THAT IS MORE FULLY REFLECTED IN THE CURRENT STAFF REPORTS, INCLUDING THE APPROACH THAT THIS IS A RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
UM, THE OTHER, THE, THE NEW PIECE, UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT SCOPE OF WORK THAT IS WORTH CONSIDERING IS A, UH, THE, UM, OWNER HAS RECEIVED A STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING LETTER, UH, FROM JERRY GARCIA, INDICATING THAT IT IS IN HIS PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT THE BUILDINGS DO NEED TO COME DOWN.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A, AN INCREDIBLY CHALLENGING SITUATION THAT THESE BUILDINGS FACE.
UH, WE DO NOT HAVE A DEMOLITION REQUEST IN FRONT OF US AT THIS TIME.
MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE APPLICANTS IS THAT THAT WILL BE, UH, HEARD AT OUR MAY COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, BUT TONIGHT WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS GIVE THE, GIVE THE APPLICANTS AND GIVE THE OWNER, UM, SOME ASSURANCE THAT THEY ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH, THAT THE, UM, I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL WOULD BE FOR THE COMMISSION TO, UH, CONSIDER THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT DONNA CARTER HAS PUT TOGETHER, UM, PROVIDE ANY ADVICE OR FEEDBACK ON THAT SCOPE OF WORK AND, UM, PROVIDE A SENSE OF ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THE COMMISSION MAY WANT TO CONSIDER AN ADVANCE OF GRANTING A PERMIT TO DECONSTRUCT THE BUILDINGS.
UH, ONE FINAL THING THAT I DO WANT TO NOTE BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION IS, UM, THE OWNER HAS DRAFTED A, UM, A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE BUILDINGS GO BACK UP WITHIN A TIMEFRAME OF THREE YEARS.
UH, SO I KNOW THAT WAS A MAJOR CONCERN OF THE COMMISSIONERS WAS THAT THESE BUILDINGS WILL COME DOWN.
THEY MIGHT STAY DOWN INDEFINITELY.
UH, THIS IS BY ALL MEANS NOT A DONE DEAL.
I'VE HAD A PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION WITH THE, UM, THE CITY'S LAW DEPARTMENT AND THEIR PREFERENCE IS STRONGLY NOT TO ENTER INTO A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.
IF THERE IS SOME OTHER MECHANISM AND CODE THAT CAN ADDRESS THE SAME SITUATION.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE IS IN THIS CASE.
UH, THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY UNUSUAL SITUATION THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING THE DECONSTRUCTION
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AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THESE BUILDING FACADES.UM, SO THIS IS REALLY THE BEGINNING OF A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT FORM THAT REASSURANCE MIGHT TAKE.
UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO YOU ALL TONIGHT IS THAT THIS IS A STRONG STATEMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER, THAT THEY ARE, ARE COMMITTED TO TAKING THE ACTION OF RECONSTRUCTING THESE BUILDINGS.
UM, SO WITH THAT ALL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU ALL FOR DISCUSSION.
I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE DISCUSSED IT AT THE FULL COMMISSION IS BASICALLY TAKING ALL OF THE MATERIAL DOWN, NUMBERING IT, STORING IT, AND THEN PUTTING IT BACK EXACTLY IN PLACE.
THE PLAN THAT WE RECEIVED FROM DONNA, DONNA CARTER, WHICH WAS PRETTY DETAILED STEP-BY-STEP WILL RESULT MOST LIKELY IN A RECONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S NOT PRESERVATION, IT'S NOT RENOVATION, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY A REPLICA.
UM, IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF COMMISSIONERS COOK AND VALANZUELA? THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
I, I, I DO, UM, ALSO UNDERSTAND THOUGH THAT THERE IS LASER SCANNING, UM, PROPOSED SO THAT, UH, THAT WILL HELP WITH THE DOCUMENTATION OF THE EXISTING, UM, LAYOUT AND, AND STRUCTURE, UM, SO THAT IT CAN BE RECONSTRUCTED, UH, IN A MANNER THAT, UM, CLOSELY RESEMBLES WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
AND MY REMAINING ISSUE IS THAT WE'RE STILL NOT BEING ASKED TO APPROVE A RECONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE A DEMOLITION WITH A PROMISE.
UM, I ACTUALLY, THE PROPOSAL IS STILL DECONSTRUCT DECONSTRUCT STORE AND RE ERECT HISTORIC BUILDING FACADES.
WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN TO ACCOMPLISH THAT END.
WE HAVE A PLAN TO START THINKING ABOUT HOW TO TAKE IT DOWN, BUT NOTHING ABOUT HOW TO, HOW TO REBUILD IT.
AND SO IT'S COMMISSIONER LORETTA, I'LL COMING AWFUL LATE TO THIS DISCUSSION.
AND I APOLOGIZE IF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN BANDED AROUND.
I KNOW THESE BUILDINGS PRETTY WELL.
AND, UH, I GUESS I QUESTION HAS THE DECISION THAT THE FACADE IS UNSALVAGEABLE RD THAT'S ALREADY PASSED.
UM, WHAT WE GOT, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH IN THE PAST HAS BEEN, UM, WE'LL DECONSTRUCT IT, KEEP EVERYTHING, STORE EVERYTHING, AND THEN WE'LL PUT IT BACK.
AND I THINK WHAT CAME TO US, WE DIDN'T HAVE A, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN.
WE DIDN'T HAVE STEP-BY-STEP, WE DIDN'T HAVE A TIMEFRAME.
AND WHAT CAME TO US AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE WAS SUCH A PLAN, BUT THE UNDERLYING EVERYTHING WAS THAT, UH, DONNA CARTER DID NOT FEEL THAT WHAT WE WERE GOING TO GET WAS THE EXACT STONE AND THE EXACT BRICK AND THE EXACT DETAILS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET IS, UM, IS A RECONSTRUCTION.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT WAS REALLY THE FIRST TIME THIS MEETING THAT WE HAD, NOT WITH THE WHOLE COMMISSION, BUT JUST IN THE COMMITTEE.
THAT MEETING WAS REALLY THE FIRST TIME THAT WE KIND OF SAW, UM, I GUESS THE BOTTOM LINE WAS THAT WE'RE MOST LIKELY TO GET A RECONSTRUCTION OUT OF US.
SO, NO, IT HASN'T BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR THERE ARE PLANS TO, UM, ANALYZE THE MATERIALS AND DO CONSIDERABLE DOCUMENTATION, BUT, UM, BUT THAT IT WAS UNLIKELY THAT WE WOULD GET THE HISTORICAL MATERIAL BACK.
SO, NO, YOU COME IN ON THE, YOU YOU'VE COME IN AT THE RIGHT POINT ON THIS, SO PLEASE WAIT IN.
I, I DON'T, I SEE COMMISSIONER GOAT NODDING HIS HEAD.
I, I, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE RECOURSES, IF ANY, AND WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS MIGHT BE AS BEING, UH, A
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VERY NEW MEMBER TO THE BOARD COMMISSIONER COOK? WELL, I THINK THAT THAT COMMENT ALONE IS VERY HELPFUL AND I DON'T WANT TO ALLOW THIS CASE TO TAKE UP WHAT LITTLE TIME WE HAVE REMAINING THIS EVENING, BUT, UH, I'VE, I'VE AGREED.I, I CAN SEE FROM THE IMAGES THAT THERE MIGHT NOT BE, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED PERCENT OR POSSIBLY EVEN 50% TO STABILIZE AND PRESERVE, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD STABILIZE AND PRESERVE WHAT WE CAN.
THESE ARE LANDMARKS, AND IT'S KIND OF A BIGGER ISSUE THAT I WOULD LIKE THE PRESERVATION PLAN TO LOOK AT THE LOOK AT THAT THEY WERE ALLOWED TO GET TO THIS CONDITION BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN MUCH HISTORY ON HOW THEY DETERIORATED OVER TIME IN LINE WITH THE HISTORY OF OWNERSHIP.
SO I DON'T WANT TO BEAT UP ON THE CURRENT OWNER TOO MUCH, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE BROUGHT THIS PLANT TWO YEARS AGO IN CONCEPT, AND NOTHING'S HAPPENED SINCE THEN.
THE ROOF HAS CONTINUED TO FALL APART AND RAIN IS FALLING INSIDE AND, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE ARE BEING LOST AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PAINTED IN A CORNER BY THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION BECAUSE THE OWNER HAS ACTED SOONER.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF BLAME TO GO AROUND ON THIS.
AND NOW IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE TIME TO PARSE IT OUT, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO LET THESE GO DOWN, UH, BECAUSE OF A LONG HISTORY OF, OF ERRORS AND, AND INACTION.
AND I DO WANT TO NOTE, UM, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, WE HAVE ANOTHER SIMILAR CASE THAT I HAD TO DRAG OUT FOR MONTHS IN A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE NINE 16 CONGRESS WAS GUTTED AND THE FACADE WAS PRESERVED, UH, AND THEN THE CASE, THE PROJECT STALLED.
AND SO NOW IT HAS NO ROOF AND IT IS SIMPLY A FREE-STANDING FACADE.
THAT'S BEEN STABILIZED WITH BEANS AT THE REAR, UH, UH, POLITICAL HISTORY BEHIND THAT WHOLE PROJECT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ABLE TO STABILIZE THEIR FACADE, UM, AFTER COMPLETELY GUTTING THE, UH, THE INTERIOR.
AND WHILE THESE THREE, THE FACADES OF THESE THREE HAVE EXTENSIVE DETERIORATION, UH, I THINK NINE OH NINE IN PARTICULAR, THE UPSTAIRS THE, THE UPPER LEVEL COULD BE PRESERVED.
UH, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WILL TO DO IT.
AND, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT THE WILL.
AND THAT LACK OF WILL, THAT'S PAINTED THIS INTO THIS CORNER, WHEREVER, YOU KNOW, IN A TIME CRUNCH.
AND WE WE'RE BEING FORCED TO ASK, TO ALLOW FULL DEMOLITION.
I, I DON'T WANT TO BE, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE MY HAND FORCED COMMISSIONER, JUST, UM, SO TO ADD ONTO THAT, I, IN READING WITH THE STRUCTURAL LETTER THAT WAS PROVIDED IN OUR BACKUP, UM, IT DOES SOUND TO ME LIKE IT'S MORE OF A D PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
THAT IS THE STICKING POINT ON THE REHABILITATION OF THE FACADE IN PLACE.
UM, BECAUSE IT STATES THAT BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THE EXTENSIVE EFFORT REQUIRED TO PROTECT AN ALREADY COMPROMISED ELEVATION, UM, IT'S THAT ENGINEER'S OPINION THAT THE EXISTING MATERIALS NEED TO BE REMOVED.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE BECAUSE OF THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT HAS PROPOSED, THAT'S WHY IT CAN BE, UM, REPAIRED.
UM, CONSTRUCTION IS DRIVING THAT MADAM CHAIR, IF I'M, IF I MIGHT ADD, UM, THIS IS ELIZABETH FROM IT, ANOTHER FACTOR THAT IS DRIVING THIS AS WE HAVE A NEW LANDMARK BUILDING NEXT DOOR, UH, THE MUTUAL BUILDING, AND IT'S NOT A PARTY WALL BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, BUT IS AN ADJACENT WALL.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY HAVE, UH, DETERIORATION ISSUES AT THEIR BUILDING THAT THEY AREN'T ABLE TO ADEQUATELY ADDRESS DUE TO THE CONDITIONS AT THIS NEIGHBORING BUILDING.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S, UH, AGAIN, THE UNDERSEA DESIRE TO TAKE DOWN THAT NEIGHBORING WALL TO ALLOW, UH, THIS ADJACENT OWNER TO PERFORM THE REPAIRS THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO THEIR EXTERIOR WALL.
SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER FACTOR TO CONSIDER BANKS.
AND I HAD HAD THE QUESTION, UH, IN TERMS OF SOLVING THE IMMEDIATE, UH, DEADLINE THAT I SEE IN THE LETTER HERE, THAT IT SAYS THAT SCAFFOLDING SHOULD BE PUT IN PLACE REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THE SCANNING EQUIPMENT WORKERS AND THE LOADS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DISMANTLING FACADES.
AND MY QUESTION PREVIOUSLY WAS, BUT ONCE THE SCAFFOLDING'S UP IS THE WALL ITSELF NOT STABILIZED.
AND IF THERE IS EMINENT CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S DRIVING ALL THIS, THEN WON'T THAT BUY ENOUGH TIME FOR THIS ALL TO BE DONE IN ONE COMPLETE PROJECT WHERE WE CAN APPROVE FROM SOUP TO NUTS THE ENTIRE PROJECT, SO THAT WE HAVE STILL HAVE LANDMARKS AT THE END OF THE PROCESS.
AND THAT'S STILL, IN MY OPINION, DO YOU HAVE, UM, A MOTION? THAT'S THE HARD PART IS I DON'T SEE ANY EMOTION IN THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE STILL DON'T REALLY HAVE TO EVEN HAVE A PROPOSAL.
I MEAN, WE HAVE PROPOSAL TO LOOK AT CAL TO GET TO WHAT MAY NEED TO HAPPEN, WHICH IS, UH, YOU KNOW, AT BEST A
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LARGE-SCALE, UH, DISMANTLING AND RECONSTRUCTION OF MAJOR PORTIONS OF THIS, WHICH I AGREE ARE DETERIORATED, BUT THERE'S NO, IT'S JUST THE BEGINNING.IT'S JUST THE CONCEPT OF LET'S TAKE IT DOWN AND PUT IT IN THE WAREHOUSE.
AND I APPRECIATE THE COVENANT, BUT THE REMEDY ACTION, THE REMEDY AFFECTION AND THAT COVENANT.
SO THE CITY CAN DO WHATEVER IS ABLE TO DO IF WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, DON'T REBUILD IT.
AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE CITY IS ABLE TO DO.
UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO NOW IS DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT, DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT IS BASICALLY DIRECTING THE OWNER TO DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW, WHICH IS TELL US WHAT YOU CAN DO, AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE DEMOLISH IT.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE HAD AN ITEM, THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, UH, LO THESE MANY YEARS, MORE THAN 10 YEARS, THAT'S A DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT AND THE CITY HAS NEVER, UM, PUSHED THROUGH OUR ENFORCEMENT ON THAT.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD BE IN THE SAME SITUATION AS THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE WILL TO ENFORCE A DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT.
WELL, I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE COMMISSIONER ROCHE, UH, JOINED THE TEAM AND HIS COMMENT THERE HOLDS A GREAT RESPECT FOR HIM PROFESSIONALLY.
AND SO I HAVE GREAT, GREAT, GLAD TO HEAR THAT, BUT AS FAR AS EMOTION AND WHERE TO GO NEXT, I THINK THEY CONTINUE PER THE PLAN AS STATED TO EXAMINE AND LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES.
BUT I THINK THOSE ALTERNATIVES THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT OR STABILIZING AND TYING THIS INTO A LARGER PROJECT, BECAUSE IF THERE IS SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE FOR SOME OTHER PROJECT, I HAVEN'T SEEN HIDE NOR HAIR OR ANYTHING, BUT TAKE IT DOWN, PUT IT IN A BOX AND STORE IT AWAY.
PERHAPS THE MOTION SHOULD BE TO, UM, DENIED THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS ALTERNATELY SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE A DEMOLITION REQUEST YET.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE WORTH ASKING THE APPLICANT WHAT THEY WOULD FIND HELPFUL IN TERMS OF DIRECTION AT THIS JUNCTURE.
UM, BUT A POSTPONEMENT REQUEST, UM, TO THE NEXT MEETING WHERE THEY WERE PROPOSING TO BRING US THE DEMOLITION REQUEST MIGHT BE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HELPFUL THAN DENIAL OR NOT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
CAN WE REQUEST THE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION BE GIVEN BY THE APPLICANT TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING FACADES? I THINK WE CAN ASK THAT WE, WE WERE, WE WERE PRETTY MUCH TOLD THAT THAT PROBLEM WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY BOUGHT THESE BUILDINGS.
THEY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THEM AND KEEP THEM IN GOOD WORKING ORDER COMMISSIONER VALANCE, WAYLON, UH, LIKE JUST TO GO AHEAD AND GET A MOTION.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE TO THE MAY 24TH MEETING AND ASKED THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES TO DEMOLITION AND TO PRESENT THOSE, UM, TO US EITHER AT THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE OR IN FRONT OF THE ENTIRE COMMISSION.
UM, INMATE, CAN I HEAR A SECOND, SECOND BY CARL RASH? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.
AND WOULD YOU REPEAT YOUR MOTION, BETH? UH, YES.
I, UH, MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE, UH, THIS CASE TO THE MAY 24TH MEETING AND ASKED THE REQUEST, THE APPLICANT CONSIDER AND PRESENT TO US ALTERNATIVES TO DEMOLITION.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, UH, COMMISSIONER COOK.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE ONE COMMENT THAT THIS IS GIVING ME FLASHBACKS TO MINE, 16 CONGRESS, CAUSE IT WAS LIKE PUSHING ON A GOOGLE AND YOU KNOW, CONSTANTLY SAYING WHAT WE WANT DONE AND NOT GETTING IT DONE UNTIL WE JUST GIVE IT.
AND IF THAT'S GOING TO LEAD, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY CONTROL OVER THAT, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION TIMELINE, BUT I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO REINFORCE THAT THE STATEMENT FROM THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, THAT THE SCAFFOLDING THAT NEEDS TO GO UP TO STABILIZE THE BUILDING, TO WITHSTAND THE FORCES OF DISMANTLING.
IT SEEMS TO ME IT SHOULD MEET THE CONCERNS OF THE BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION FOR STABILIZATION OF THE FACADES AND, UH, ASK THAT STAFF, UH, RELAY THAT TO THE COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION.
IT'S JUST GOING TO SAY, CAN WE RECORD, CAN WE ASK STAFF TO DO THAT? UH, JUST THAT, UH, ELIZABETH YES, DEFINITELY NOTED.
I'M NOT CERTAIN WHEN THIS GOES BEFORE THE BUILDING IN STANDARD COMMISSION AGAIN, BUT I WAS PRESENT LAST TIME AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, UH, CONVEY
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THAT TO THEM AT THE, AT THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY WE'RE DEALING WITH TWO LANDMARKS AND, UM, I THINK THAT WE DON'T GET IN A RUSH TO APPROVE THEIR DEMOLITION.UM, CAN WE GO AHEAD WITH THE VOTE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER VILLAINS, LAYLA'S MOTION, RAISE YOUR HAND.
[3.B.3. C14H-2010-0009, HR-2021-041008 – 1501 Northwood Road – Discussion Voss House Council District 10 (Part 2 of 2)]
MOVING ON TO 1501 NORTHWOOD ROAD.THIS IS ANOTHER LANDMARK CASE.
UH, THIS IS THE VOSS HOUSE AND, UM, THIS IS SO I SHOULD PREFACE MY COMMENTS BY SAYING THAT THIS IS OUR FIRST MEETING, WHERE WE ARE USING THE NEW HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS IN ORDER TO PREPARE THE STAFF REPORTS.
UM, SO YOU MAY NOTICE SOME CHANGES IN FORMAT.
UH, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT LONGER, BUT THAT'S, UM, IN CONSIDERATION OF HOW DETAILED THE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE, UH, THEY REALLY GIVE US A NUMBER OF POINTS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS STAFF.
AND, UH, IN TERMS OF EVALUATING PROJECTS WHERE THE DESIGN STANDARDS DO NOT NECESSARILY GIVE US A CLEAR UP OR DOWN, UM, HAS TO DO WITH, UM, STANDARD 1.6, FOUR ADDITIONS TO EXISTING BUILDINGS, UM, STATING THE ADDITIONS ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR ALL HISTORIC LANDMARKS AND WILL BE EVALUATED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
UH, SO THE VOSS HOUSE HAS SIGNIFICANT FOR ITS ARCHITECTURE AND FOR ITS ASSOCIATION WITH HERMAN VOSS WHO FOUNDED THE HH VOSS COMPANY, UM, UH, WHOLESALE AND RETAIL HARDWARE, GLASSWARE STOVE, HOTEL SUPPLY, YOU NAME IT, UM, SUPPLIER, UH, IT'S ALSO A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A CRAFTSMAN STYLE BUNGALOW, THE PROPOSED ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS, WHICH I'LL SHOW IN A MOMENT MAINTAIN THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THE HOUSE.
AND, UH, THE ADDITION IS PULLED BACK.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THIS CORNER PORCH, UM, THIS DISTINCTIVE STONE CHIMNEY ARE REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT FEATURES.
AND UNFORTUNATELY I'M GOING TO HAVE TO STOP SHARING AND SHARE AGAIN, JUST UH, THE ADDITION, UH, IS ADDING A SECOND FLOOR TO THIS ONE STORY HOUSE.
IT DOES NOT DISRUPT ANY OF THOSE SIGNIFICANT FEATURES WE STILL HAVE, UM, IN THE FRONT ELEVATION, UH, FACING NORTHWOOD ROAD IS, UH, REALLY UNINTERRUPTED.
UH, YOU WOULD SEE AN ADDITIONAL, IT'S GOT THIS VOCABULARY OF THESE NESTED GABLES.
YOU WOULD SEE AN ADDITIONAL GABLE, UM, AS WELL AS THE SIDE OF THE SHED ROOF DORMER FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, UH, THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, THIS IS A CORNER LOT, UH, THE SIDE FACES HARRIS BOULEVARD.
AND SO AGAIN, YOU WOULD SEE THAT THERE, THERE IS THIS EXTENSION OF THE ROOF LINE HERE, AS WELL AS THIS END SET, UH, SHED REFORMER.
UM, SO IN, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS A, AN ADDITION THAT LARGELY MEETS THE STANDARDS AS, UM, THEY ARE PUT FORWARD FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES IN HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
UM, I THINK IT'S AT THE COMMISSION'S DISCRETION, WHETHER THIS TYPE OF A SECOND FLOOR ADDITION MEETS THE STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK.
UH, ANOTHER PIECE OF THE, UM, PROJECT TO CONSIDER IS THERE IS REMOVAL OF THE, THERE IS A GARAGE AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE LAST HISTORIC SANBORN MAPS FROM 1961, THERE IS A GARAGE AT ROUGHLY THIS LOCATION AT THE BACK CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME FOOTPRINT.
UH, THERE IS A BUILDING PERMIT FROM 2000 THAT SHOWS AN INTERIOR REMODEL OF THE GARAGE WITH A CONCRETE FLOOR.
SO WE KNOW IT WAS THERE BY THEN.
WE DON'T KNOW AN EXACT DATE FOR THE GARAGE, AND IT'S ALSO NOT SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT IN THE LANDMARK NOMINATION AS A HISTORIC SITE FEATURE.
UH, THE GARAGE WOULD BE REMOVED THIS, UH, GROUPING OF FOUR WINDOWS HERE ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY WILL ALSO BE REMOVED.
UM, ELIZABETH, ARE THOSE THE FOUR WINDOWS THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO REPLACE WITH A LARGE, UM, FIXED PANE? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SO THIS, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE CLEAREST REPRESENTATION ON, UM, THE BEGINNING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS.
SO YOU HAVE A SMALL ADDITION THAT WRAPS THE BACK CORNER OF THE HOUSE AND INVOLVES RELATIVELY LIMITED REMOVAL OF HISTORIC FABRIC.
UM, IT DOES INTERSECT WITH THAT GROUPING OF FOUR WINDOWS, BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO A, UM, AN ARCHITECTURAL GESTURE TO REMOVE THOSE AND TO
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INSTALL THIS LARGE WINDOW HERE.UM, THEN THERE'S THIS, THIS, UH, DOG TROT PORTION.
THIS IS ESSENTIALLY REPLACING WHERE THE GARAGE IS PRESENTLY.
UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE ASPECTS TO CONSIDER.
UM, WHAT I HAVE AS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS, UM, KIND OF AT, AT THE MOST GENEROUS WOULD BE TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT, INCLUDING DEMOLITION OF THE GARAGE AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE REAR AND SECOND STORY ADDITIONS, BUT TO SPECIFY RETENTION OF AT LEAST SOME OF THE, UH, THE FOUR GROUPED WINDOWS HERE AT THE BACK FACADE, UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY DO NOT, UM, COMPROMISE THAT CONNECTION WITH THE ADDITION, UH, IF THE COMMISSIONERS FEEL THAT THIS IS, UM, MORE OF A MODIFICATION THAN THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT AN INDIVIDUAL LANDMARK PROPERTY, PARTICULARLY ONE ON A CORNER LOT.
UM, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO POSTPONE THE CASE TO THE MAY HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING WITH A REFERRAL TO THE MAIN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING.
I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE.
WE SEEN THIS PROJECT BEFORE, UH, THE COMMITTEE HASN'T SEEN IT.
WE HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT IT AND REALLY CONSIDER IT.
I THINK THAT THE ADDITION, UM, UH, IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
UM, I'M A LANDMARK PROPERTY AND, UH, REPLACEMENT OF THE WINDOWS I THINK IS FAIRLY, UM, IS SIGNIFICANT AS WELL.
UM, BUT CAN WE GET A MOTION ON THIS? UH, YES.
COMMISSIONER A LITTLE, UH, UNMUTE YOURSELF.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT HEARING YOU COMMISSIONER LEVEL HERE YOU ARE.
APPARENTLY THERE'S A BUTTON ON MY HEADSET.
IN ADDITION TO THE ONE ON MY SCREEN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE THIS CASE TO THE, TO THE MAY MEETING WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE OWNERS AND THEIR ARCHITECT ATTEND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE NEXT MONTH.
UM, SO THE MOTION IS TO REFER TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH IS TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AND, UH, TO POSTPONE IT TO THE LANDMARK, TO THAT COMMISSION MEETING ALL THOSE IN ANY DISCUSSION, FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS.
COMMISSIONER, WAS THERE A SECOND ON THAT OF COMMISSIONER COOK SECOND? YEAH, I MADE THAT UP BY SAYING, I THINK THIS IS THE REALLY SIGNIFICANT PROPERTY.
IT'S ALSO A HARD ONE TO ADD ONTO.
AND I THINK THE DOG TROTTER ADDITION AS ELIZABETH DESCRIBED IT, THE WAY THAT IT'S DESIGNED COMING OUT THE BACK OF THE HOUSE AS WELL, DONE AND DIFFERENTIATED FROM THE REST OF IT.
BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE REPLACEMENT OF THOSE WINDOWS AND SOME OF THE ELEMENTS THAT SHE OUTLINED IN HER PRESENTATION.
AND I THINK THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO HAVING A NICELY DESIGNED PROJECT THAT MEETS OUR DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT I THINK IT COULD USE A LITTLE TWEAKING TO IMPROVE IT FOR THEIR COMMENTS.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[3.B.5. HR-2021-039343 – 612 Highland Ave. – Discussion Smoot/Terrace Park Historic District Council District 9 (Part 2 of 2)]
THE NEXT ITEM, WHERE ARE WE? UM, 12, SIX, 12 HIGHLAND AVENUE.DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION? ELIZABETH.
ARE YOU ABLE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF? KARA, GIVE US JUST A MINUTE.
KARA BURTON HAS AN IMPLYING DEPARTMENT AND I SEE BACK WITH YOU FOR THIS MEETING.
SO, UM, THE PROJECT AT SIX 12 HIGHLAND, UH, AS YOU HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS IS TO CONSTRUCT A ONE STORY HOUSE WITH A LOWER LEVEL TO REPLACE THE HOUSE THAT WAS DESTROYED BY FIRE BACK IN 2019.
UM, I'LL I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS, UM, IN THAT PUBLIC HEARING, I'LL REVIEW THE DETAILS VERY BRIEFLY.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS, UH, THEY SAID ONE STORY IT'S CLAD IN STUCCO AND CAPPED BY A COMBINATION HIP AND FLAT BOOTH.
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THERE'S A FRONT DORMER, FULL HEIGHT WINDOWS, A SEPARATE CHIMNEY AND A FULL WIDTH FRONT PORCH.THAT'S CAPPED BY A FLAT METAL ROOF WITH A WOODSTOCK FIT.
UH, THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES THE RENOVATION OF AN EXISTING DETACHED GARAGE.
THE GARAGE IS ACCESSED FROM THE REAR AND TO NOT VISIBLE FROM HIGHLAND AVENUE AND AS SUCH, IT IS NOT COVERED BY THIS MOOT CHAIRS PARK DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE NEW PRINCIPAL HOUSE MEETS MANY OF THE TERRACE PARK DESIGN STANDARDS, INCLUDING STREET ORIENTATION, LOT'S POSITION, SETBACK, SCALE, AND MASSING ELEMENTS LIKE THE HIPPED ROOF, THE DORMER AND THE FRONT PORCH ARE A MODERN TAKE ON HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE FOUND ELSEWHERE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THE PROJECT CAME BEFORE THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND A COMMITTEE MEMBERS COMMENTED ON THE BRICK WALL RUNNING ACROSS THE FRONT OF THE PORCH.
AND, UM, ALSO THE FRONT OF THE SITE ADJACENT TO THE PORCH AND THEY COME INTO THE FRONT PORCH AND THE FRONT DORMER AS PROMINENT ELEMENTS, STAFF FEELS THAT A FEW ELEMENTS COULD BE REVISED TO MAKE THE HOUSE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
FIRST, THE STUCCO CLADDING IS, UH, A NOTABLE DEPARTURE FROM THE WOOD AND THE BRICK CLADDING THAT SOUNDS THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT, AS THE ARCHITECT NOTED, SOME CRAFTSMAN HOUSES NEARBY DO HAVE STUCCO ACCENTS ON THE GABLE END AND OR THE FOUNDATION OR PORCH WALLS, BUT ONLY ONE HOUSE IN THE ENTIRE DISTRICT IS FULLY CLOUD AND STUCCO.
AND IT HAS HALF TENDERING IN THE GABLE END, A DEEP PORCH WITH COLUMNS AND A RAILING.
SO THAT STUCCO PRESENTS VERY, VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN JUST A SINGLE PLAIN SECOND.
THE FLAT CANTILEVERED PORTRAITS IS A DRAMATIC DESIGN ELEMENT THAT DOES NOT HAVE EQUIVALENT IN THE DISTRICT.
STAFF IS CONCERNED THAT THIS ELEMENT PLUS THE STUCCO CLADDING AND THE STEEP ROOF PITCH WILL MAKE THE HOUSE STAND OUT.
AND THE, WHEN THE GOAL SHOULD BE TO HAVE A, A DISTINCTIVE DESIGN THAT FITS IN WITH, AND IS SUBORDINATE TO THE HISTORIC HOUSES ON THE BLOCK, NOT IN AN APOLOGETIC WAY.
AND I'VE, UM, SPOKEN WITH THE ARCHITECT AND I KNOW THAT THEY PAID A LOT OF ATTENTION TO MAKING THIS COMPATIBLE AND DIFFERENTIATED, BUT STAFF FEELS THAT IT COULD BE, IT COULD LAND MORE ON THE, ON THE COMPATIBLE END.
FINALLY, ON A SMALLER SCALE, THERE ARE METAL MESH PANELS ON THE SIDE OF THE PORCH THAT USE A MODERN MATERIAL AND PATTERN, AND THAT THAT ARE NOT REFLECTED IN HISTORIC PORCHES ELSEWHERE IN THE DISTRICT.
THE, AS YOU HEARD, UM, FROM THE ARCHITECT, UH, AND AS YOU'VE SEEN FROM THE BACK, THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THIS DESIGN STAFF IS ALSO GENERALLY SUPPORTS THE DESIGN, BUT FEELS THAT IT, IT COULD BE MORE COMPATIBLE, UM, THAT THERE, THERE ARE JUST A FEW, A COUPLE OF PROMINENT ELEMENTS THAT THAT MAY BE PROBLEMATIC WHEN CONSTRUCTED THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO POSTPONE THE CASE TO MAY 24TH TO 2021, AND REFER FOR FURTHER REVIEW BY THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE WITH PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO ENSURING THAT THE DESIGN AND MATERIALS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
UM, ANY COMMENTS EVERY TIME THE GRID COMES UP, PEOPLE ARE RECONFIGURED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, UH, WHERE TO EXPECT PEOPLE TO POP UP ON MY SCREEN.
UM, I HAD SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS.
I WAS THE ONE WHO, WHO HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE, WITH THE LANDSCAPE WALL.
UM, BUT I, I SEE THIS AS I THINK THE FORM OF THE HOUSE AND THE, AND THE, THE REFORM SEEMS COMPATIBLE, BUT I THINK THAT IT WILL STAND OUT.
AND THE IDEA, UM, FOR THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT IS THAT IT SHOULD BE, UM, THAT IT SHOULD BLEND IN AND NOT STAND OUT, NOT DRAW ATTENTION TO ITSELF.
AND SO I, UH, I TEND TO AGREE WITH STAFF, BUT, UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS STAFF RECOMMENDS, UH, ASKING THEM TO RETURN TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE? I WOULD, YES.
COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA AND MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE THIS TO THE MAY 24TH MEETING AND REFER THE CASE TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.
WELL, DO I HEAR A SECOND TO THAT SECOND FROM A COMMISSIONER? RIGHT.
I, I KNOW THAT THE, THE APPLICANT AND THE ARCHITECT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THIS, BUT I THINK THAT, UM, THIS IS A FAIRLY NEW DISTRICT
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AND I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE WHO THOSE TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEW CONSTRUCTION DOES, UM, PAY HOMAGE TO THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS.AND I AGREED THAT STUCCO IS NOT, UM, A PREVALENT MATERIAL IT'S USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE HALF TIMBERING MOSTLY IN THE, IN THE GABLE ENDS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, OR IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS TO THE NEXT YES.
WE'LL ASK THEM TO COME BACK TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND COME TO THE NEXT MEETING.
ARE WE GOING TO 16? OH ONE BRACKENRIDGE.
DID I SKIP SOMETHING? THE NEXT
[3.B.7. HR-2021-048226 – 1910 Maple Ave. – Consent Rogers Washington Holy Cross Historic District Council District 1 (Part 2 of 2)]
CASE IS ITEM B SEVEN, WHICH WAS PULLED FOR THIS PATIENT.IT WAS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA, BUT IT WAS PAUL'S.
DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION? OKAY.
UM, ELIZABETH, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? COLIN.
ARE YOU ABLE TO UNMUTE? UM, SHE'S SHE'S SAYING SHE'S MUTED.
HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE, PLEASE.
YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU KAELIN, PLEASE.
UH, 1910 MAPLE AVENUE, THIS ITEM IS A PROPOSAL TO REPLACE, UH, SOME VINYL WINDOWS WITH MORE APPROPRIATE WINDOWS TO RECONFIGURE AND REPLACE NON ORIGINAL VINYL WINDOWS AND REPLACEMENT DOORS, LARGE REAR WINDOW REPAIR THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE, UH, TO THE FRONT FACADE OR ROOF, AND ADD TWO SKYLIGHTS AND REMOVE A NON-ORIGINAL REAR SHED ADDITION TO BE REPLACED WITH A SCREEN PORCH AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
THIS IS A MULTI-PART PROJECT, SO I'LL GO OVER THEM QUICKLY.
UM, FIRST, FIRST, UH, THE APPLICANT WANTS TO REPLACE THE INCOMPATIBLE VINYL, WINDOWS, AND DOORS WITH MORE APPROPRIATE COMPOSITE DOORS AND WOOD ALUMINUM COMPOSITE WINDOWS.
UM, THEY THEN WENT TO ENLARGE A WINDOW OPENING AT A REAR ELEVATION AND REPLACE THE GLAZING THERE, UH, THEN REPLACED SOME NON-ORIGINAL, UH, SECONDARY DOORS, UH, AND A SLIDING GLASS DOOR AT THE NORTH ELEVATION, UH, WITH SOME WINDOWS OF A SIMILAR SIMILAR CONFIGURATION.
YOU ALSO WANT TO MOVE NON ORIGINAL EXTERIOR SHED ADDITION AT THE REAR OF THE HOUSE, UH, AND PATCH THAT EXTERIOR WALL WHERE IT'S REQUIRED, UH, AND WOULD LIKE TO REPAIR THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE AT THE MAIN FACADE, WHICH INCLUDES DECONSTRUCTION, SALVAGE, AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ORIGINAL STACKED LIMESTONE VENEER IN THE SAME CONFIGURATION.
IT ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REPAIR THE ROOF AND REPLACE THE SHINGLES AND KIND, UH, ADDING SKYLIGHTS AT THE REAR AND MAIN ELEVATION.
SCONCES WILL BE REPLACED WITH DARK SKY COMPLIANT, SCONCES THAT MATCH THE STYLE OF THE BUILDING AND SCREENS WILL BE ADDED TO THE REAR PORCH.
ONE STORY, EL PLAN, MID CENTURY, MODERN HOUSE CLAD INSTAX LIMESTONE WITH VERTICAL WOOD SIDING.
IT'S GOT A LOW PITCHED ROOF, DEEP EAVES AND HORIZONTAL AND CLERESTORY WINDOWS.
AND, UM, THESE TWO, UH, TO TELL YOU THAT, UH, THIS PROJECT LARGELY MEETS THE ROGERS WASHINGTON, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND, UM, THE ONLY THING THAT STOCK COULD FIND THAT DIDN'T QUITE COMPLY WAS THAT FRONT FACING SKYLIGHT, UH, PROTECTED FACADE, WHICH THE ARCHITECT EXPLAINED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN THE EVENING.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO SAY THAT THE PROJECT NEEDS MOST OF THE APPLICABLE STANDARDS, AND THEN WE CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION EXCEPT FOR THAT FRONT FACING SKYLIGHT.
COMMISSIONER LAROCHE APPROPRIATELY ADDRESSED
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THE SKYLINE.AND I THINK THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF THINGS, I WOULD, I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICANTS, THE APPLICATION COMMISSIONER THAT'S THE SECOND.
AND A SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF, UM, IF SKYLIGHTS ARE, UH, SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED AND THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THIS, UH, DISTRICT CALLAN.
NOW SKYLIGHTS SPECIFICALLY ARE NOT ADDRESSED.
UM, UH, THIS IS A PROTECTIVE FACADE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, SO THE REAR FACADE, UH, WITH THAT SECOND SKYLIGHT WOULD NOT BE AS MUCH OF A CONCERN, HAS ONE ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
UM, HOWEVER, I DO THINK THAT THE, UH, THE LOW PITCH OF THE ROOF, UM, AND THE, THE PATCHWORK WHERE THAT EXISTING CHIMNEY WAS, UM, IN THE PAST, UH, IT, IT CERTAINLY DOES OFFER A COMPELLING REASON TO APPROVE ALONG WITH THAT, TO APPROVE THAT SKYLIGHT ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE APPLICATION.
I, UM, IF IT WAS, IF SKYLIGHTS WERE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED, UH, PART OF THE DESIGN STANDARDS, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT STORY.
I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION, UM, TO APPROVE AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS, I JUST WANTED TO STATE, I WAS GLAD TO SEE THAT THE TAX BENEFIT PROGRAM FOR DISTRICTS BEING USED AGAIN.
UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS, AND I APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF WORK AND THE SENSITIVITY AND IN THE SELECTION OF DETAILS ON THIS.
I THINK IT'S A REALLY NICE PROJECT AND ANYTHING ELSE ON KAYLA? LET'S TAKE A VOTE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
IS THIS, DID YOU SAY THIS WAS THE FIRST, THIS IS THE FIRST, UM, APPLICATION FOR THIS DISTRICT.
I THOUGHT WE HAD ANOTHER FIRST APPLICATION EVER, BUT IT IS THE FIRST TAX ABATEMENT APPLICATION.
WELL, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I JUST WANT TO ASK A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
UH, THIS IS PAIRED WITH ITEM F1, WHICH WAS APPROVAL OF THE TAX ABATEMENT APPLICATION.
I BELIEVE THAT DID PASS ON CONSENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD, UM, IF WE NEED TO CLARIFY, BUT NOW THAT WE'VE PASSED, UM, I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED GIVEN THAT ONE ITEM GOT PULLED FROM CONSENT AND THE OTHER DIDN'T, IS THERE ANY OTHER ACTION THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO TAKE AT THIS TIME? UM, THERE ISN'T AT THIS TIME, UM, THE APPLICANT CONFIRMED THAT THE, UH, THE SKYLIGHT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES WORKSHEET, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAD NOT RECEIVED A QUOTE AT THE TIME OF THE APPLICATION.
SO THAT TAX ABATEMENT, UM, DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SKYLIGHTS.
UH, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE REST OF THE PROJECT.
WE HAD ANOTHER ITEM PULLED THAT I DIDN'T
[3.C.10. HR-2021-043627 – 1201 Enfield Rd. – Consent Council District 9 Old West Austin National Register District]
JOT IN MY NOTES.UM, THAT'S ITEM C 10 FOR 1201 AND FIELD ROAD.
IT, THAT IS THE CASE FOR, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK WE WERE ABLE TO HEAR FROM MANY OF THE SPEAKERS AT ALL, INCLUDING THE ONE SPEAKER AT AN OPPOSITION FROM THIS COMMITTEE.
THIS IS ANOTHER OF KARA'S CASES.
SO KARA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE KIND OF REPRESENTING THE, THE VARIOUS SIDES ON THIS.
KARA, CAN YOU UNMUTE, UM, I BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE IN MEETING CALLEN CONTRARAS INSTEAD OF KARA BERTRAN.
WELL, THEY'RE FIGURING OUT THE MEETING.
I THINK A, A PROBLEM THAT THE ZONING COMMITTEE HAD WITH THIS HAD TO ACTUALLY HAD TO ACTUALLY DO WITH ZONING THAT, UM, IS THIS THE CASE WHERE THEY WERE, THEY'RE ASKING FOR? WHAT, WHAT WILL RESULT IN THREE DWELLING UNITS ON A SINGLE FAMILY LOT?
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IS THERE ANY STAFF? OKAY.WE DON'T, UM, AVI, WE DON'T HAVE ANY STAFF.
AS KARA SHE IS UN-MUTED RIGHT NOW.
SO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
KIRA, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? OKAY.
W WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING HERE.
ELIZABETH, ARE YOU ABLE TO GO ONTO THE NEXT ITEM AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS, MAYBE.
I HATE TO MOVE ON WHEN THIS IS JUST GOING TO COME UP AGAIN.
UM, THIS IS NOT, I DON'T THINK THIS IS KARA'S LAST CASE.
WHY DON'T WE COULD MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE AND CIRCLE BACK TO THIS.
UM, KARA, I SEE YOUR QUESTION IN THE CHAT.
PLEASE DO TRY JOINING THROUGH WEBEX AND WE'LL SEE IF THAT'S MORE SEAMLESS.
I NEED A MOMENT TO GET THE VISUALS UP.
OUR NEXT CASE IS ITEM D ONE 1601 BRACKENRIDGE STREET.
UM, THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT ORIGINALLY CAME TO US UNDER A PRIOR OWNER FOR FULL DEMOLITION OF THE, UM, A NEW OWNER HAS ACQUIRED IT.
UH, WE HEARD FROM HIM AT THE LAST MEETING AND AT THAT POINT HE HAD JUST BEGUN TO DEVELOP HIS PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY.
SO LET ME, LET ME GET MY VISUALS UP.
UM, SO THIS IS THE HOUSE AS IT EXISTS PRESENTLY.
UH, WHAT HE'S WANTING TO DO IS, UH, RESTORE THAT, UM, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS AN ENCLOSED PORCH.
UM, IT APPEARS THAT THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, AS WELL AS THE ORIGINAL DOOR WERE RELOCATED, UH, TO FORM THAT EXTERIOR WALL OF THE ENCLOSED PORCH, WHAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TO TAKE THOSE AND MOVE THEM BACK TO, UH, WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE ORIGINALLY OCCURRED.
UM, THERE'S ALSO, UM, SORRY, I'M GOING TO, THE CONTROLS ARE IN MY WAY.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO STOP SHARING AND SHARE AGAIN, THE PLANS ALSO INVOLVE MAKING THE UPSTAIRS, UH, ATTIC SPACE HABITABLE.
UH, SO THAT INVOLVES, UM, ADDING WINDOWS ON THE SIDE, ELEVATION.
UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING FRONT DORMER, WHICH CURRENTLY HAS VINCE INSTEAD OF WINDOW.
SO ADDING WINDOWS THERE, UM, ANOTHER WINDOW ON THE OTHER SIDE, ELEVATION AND, UM, ADDING A DORMER WITH SIMILAR WINDOWS ON THE REAR ELEVATION.
SO, UM, TH THE ONE BIT OF FEEDBACK THAT I'VE GIVEN ON THE DESIGN TO THE APPLICANT AND THEIR ARCHITECT IS THAT IDEALLY THIS BACK DORMER WOULD BE MORE DIFFERENTIATED FROM THE HISTORIC, SO THAT IT'S NOT, UH, POTENTIALLY MISTAKEN AS A HISTORIC ELEMENT.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE WINDOW PROPORTIONS, AS WELL AS THESE ARE NEW WINDOWS ON THE BACK, WHEREAS A NON HISTORIC ADDITION, THIS BEING REMOVED, UM, THE PROPORTIONS OF THE WINDOWS SERVE TO DIFFERENTIATE IT FROM THE HISTORIC HOUSE.
UH, THE PROJECT ALSO INVOLVES CONSTRUCTION OF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AT THE REAR THAT, UH, SO IT IS, UM, WE'RE ON A CORNER LOT HERE AT THE CORNER OF BRACKENRIDGE.
AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T RECALL THE SIDE STREET OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, UM, BUT THE ADU IS SET BACK SUBSTANTIALLY.
SO IT'S NOT COMPETING FROM THAT SIDE ELEVATION.
UM, LET ME GET PAST THESE SCHEMATIC DRAWINGS.
UH, THIS IS A VERY, UM, SCHEMATIC DESIGN FOR THE ADU.
I WILL STILL GO THROUGH SOME ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
IS THAT THE OVERALL HEIGHT? UH, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A FULL TWO STORIES AND THE HISTORIC HOUSE IS A ONE AND A HALF STORY DESIGN, UH, IT IS
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LESS OVERALL HEIGHT.UM, JUST BASED ON HOW BUILT UP THE BASE OF THAT HISTORIC HOUSE IS.
UM, I THINK WE ALSO MAY BE, UM, SOMEWHAT PUSHING THE LINE ON DIFFERENTIATED YET COMPATIBLE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS COMPARED WITH CERTAIN ELEMENTS IN THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
BUT OVERALL, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE ADDITION, UM, AT THE REAR OF THIS LOT, AND REALLY MOST IMPORTANTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WANT TO CONCLUDE WITH IS THAT THIS WAS A CASE THAT CAME TO US ORIGINALLY FOR FULL DEMOLITION, AND WE HAVE A NEW OWNER THAT'S THAT'S COMING IN IS, UH, RETAINING AND RESTORING SOME FEATURES OF THE HOUSE.
AND, UH, WE, WE DO NEED TO TAKE SOME ACTION AT THIS MEETING, UH, TO RESOLVE THIS.
UM, THIS IS A CASE THAT, UH, WE POSTPONED WITH THE APPLICANT'S CONSENT AT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, MY THINKING IN SUGGESTING THAT HAD BEEN THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PLANS WERE SO EARLY IN DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT THEY, THEY WEREN'T READY TO SUBMIT FOR BUILDING PERMITS AT THAT JUNCTURE.
AND SO THIS WOULD JUST ALLOW SOME TIME TO GET THOSE PLANS DEVELOPED.
WE NOW HAVE A CLEARER PICTURE OF WHAT THE APPLICANT, UH, IS PROPOSING TO DO.
AND, UM, I HAVE TALKED WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF MOVING FORWARD WITH COMMISSION INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING, AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING HE IS INTERESTED IN PURSUING.
UH, SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO RELEASE A PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT AND ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO PROCEED AS PROPOSED.
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON IT, UM, ON, DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT PORCH WAS ENCLOSED? THIS IS A PROJECT I INHERITED FROM STEVE SEDOWSKY.
AND SO I DID NOT DO A LOT OF BACKGROUND RESEARCH ON AN, I DO NOT KNOW WHEN THE PORCH WAS ENCLOSED, THE OTHER, UM, THE OTHER THING I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT, UM, I DIDN'T SEE THE PLANS.
WHAT, WHAT KIND OF POSTS ARE THEY PLANNING TO PUT ON THERE? SO THE, THE POSTER REMAINING, UM, LET ME GET THE, BUT AT LEAST I THOUGHT THE POST-WAR NOW I'M LOOKING AT THE IMAGE.
I THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY LET ME SHARE THIS.
ELIZABETH, COULD I SPEAK, THIS IS MARK HUTCHINSON.
UM, SO THE, THE EXISTING, UM, POST IS IT ACTUALLY THERE, UM, THEY DIDN'T CHANGE THAT.
YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE ELEVATION.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE WEST ELEVATION THOSE, UM, THICKER, UM, HORIZONTAL SIDING THAT ACTUALLY COMES ABOUT 36 INCHES ABOVE THE FLOOR.
UM, AND SO, YEAH, THAT, THAT IS THAT THE POST, WHEN I WALKED IT WITH STEVE AND WE WALKED THROUGH IT TWICE, UM, HE WAS THE ONE THAT POINTED THIS OUT TO ME THAT, UM, THAT, THAT WAS DEFINITELY AN OPEN FRONT PORCH.
AND THAT, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE EXISTING POACH IN HIS VIEWPOINT AT LEAST.
UM, ARE THEY, ARE THERE BRICK PIERS ON BOTH SIDES? THE BRICK PIERS ARE THEY PAINTED? I BELIEVE THEY ARE HATES HIM.
AND I CAN'T REMEMBER ELIZABETH.
I WANTED TO KNOW BECAUSE IT D YOU KNOW, THE, THE BRICK IS ARTICULATED IN THE, IN THE DRAWINGS.
AND, UM, IF THEY WEREN'T PAINTED, I DIDN'T WANT THEM TO BE PAINTED, BUT IF THEY ARE PAINTED, THAT'S A MOOT ISSUE.
AND THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS ON WHEN THEY SAID THAT THE DORMER IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT LARGER, THIS IS JUST ON THE BACK, RIGHT.
WHERE RETAINING THE ORIGINAL FRONT DORMER ON THE HOUSE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FRONT DORMER IS BEING RETAINED, UM, AS IS, SORRY, MARK.
I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, UM, THE CHANGES TO ADD SOME WINDOWS IN LIEU OF THESE EVENTS, AND THEN TO PUT ANOTHER SIMILARLY SIZED AND SIMILARLY DETAILED DORMER ON THE BACK WHERE NO DORMER EXISTS.
MARK, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD? YEAH, WHEN I WALKED WITH STEVE, UM, SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S A VENT UP THERE.
UM, HE, HE WAS SURPRISED HE THOUGHT THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN A WINDOW INITIALLY, A PIE.
UM, EVEN, EVEN THOUGH WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN NECESSARILY OCCUPIABLE, BUT WE'RE SAFE.
UM, WELL, WE CAN, WE CAN PUT THIS IN A MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO STUDY SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, DISTINCTIVE CRAFTSMEN AND HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE WHAT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE, UM, IN TERMS OF WINDOWS OR EVENTS FOR THAT DORMER.
I DON'T WANT TO JUST SLAP UP ANY WINDOWS ON IT,
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SO.UM, ELIZABETH, DO YOU HAVE, WAS THAT IT? YES.
HAPPY TO HAVE YOU I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN DISCUSS.
DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS CASE, COMMISSIONER COOK, WE'LL MOVE TO RELEASE THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT.
AND ANYTHING ON THE DESIGN OR, YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO FOLLOW, LIKE THE COMMENTS YOU HAD.
I JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE THIS CONDITIONAL ANYWAY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WITH AN ENCOURAGEMENT TO, TO CONSIDER THE DETAILS OF THE WINDOWS ON THE FRONT DORMER.
UH, BUT I DON'T THINK WE COULD PUT A QUALIFICATION ON IT AT THIS POINT IN THE TIMELINE COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER.
WAS THAT A SECOND FROM YOU? OR DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO, THAT'S A SEPARATE.
THERE'S A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER.
UM, I DON'T, WHY CAN'T, WHY COULD WE NOT PUT A CONDITION ON IT THAT THEY CAUSE WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THEIR PROPOSED WINDOWS.
I MEAN, I THINK ALL WE CAN DO IS DENY IT IS A PERK IS ALLOW IT OR INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE DO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO THEN ENCOURAGE, UM, FROM THE CHAIR, ENCOURAGE CAREFULLY CHOOSING A WINDOW OR CARE OF SMALL WINDOWS, UH, THAT ARE IN KEEPING WITH THE, UM, THE CRAFTSMAN AESTHETIC OF THIS TIME PERIOD, WHICH IS THE IN, IN AUSTIN.
IS THAT RIGHT AT 1915? SO THAT'S MY ENCOURAGEMENT.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS? I JUST WANT TO THANK THE OWNER FOR STEPPING IN TO SAVE THIS BUILDING AND, AND, AND THE AMOUNT OF ATTENTION AND DETAIL THEY HAVE PAID.
UH, NOTWITHSTANDING THE, THE FEW ADDITIONAL DETAILS WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, IF THIS WERE A LANDMARK PROPERTY, WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE, TO BE PERFECT.
BUT BY AND LARGE, I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE RESPECTING ALL THE HISTORIC FABRIC AND THEY'RE TAKING ON A FAIRLY BIG RESTORATION PROJECT AND A LOT OF THE DETAILS ON THIS.
SO I APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO TELL THE APPLICANT THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE CHEERING YOU ON AND IN THE TRAVEL SITES, FAIRVIEW PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PROPERTY ON A CORNER, LOT OUT, HIGHLY VISIBLE, AND, UM, YOU REALLY SAVED THE DAY.
IS IT OKAY IF I SPEAK REAL QUICK? UM, I HEAR YOU CHAIR, MS. MADAM CHAIR ABOUT, UH, THE WINDOW ON FRONT.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING TO LIVE IN THE BACK HOME OURSELVES AND DEFINITELY WANTED SOMEONE TO BE, YOU KNOW, A GREAT LONG-TERM ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY.
CAN YOU DO MORE PROJECTS IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS? UM, I HOPE SO.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM, OKAY.
ANY OPPOSITION? NO, IT PASSES.
IT HASN'T BEEN PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
ARE YOU AMENABLE TO CIRCLING BACK TO 12, A WIND AND FIELD ROAD? YEAH, WE'RE JUST POPPING BACK ONE STEP ONE, STEP BACK.
SO THE, THE PROPOSAL HERE IS TO DEMOLISH AND CONTRIBUTING BUILDING BUILT AROUND 1937 IN THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS AND CONSTRUCT A THREE-STORY MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING, UH, WITH FOUR UNITS, AS ELIZABETH MENTIONED, NOT EVERYONE IS ABLE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE.
UM, MS. MERRIAM CHAIRS, THE AWANAS ZONING COMMITTEE AT WHICH SENT A LETTER ABOUT THIS CASE THAT POSTED AS BACKUP, AND I BELIEVE THE LETTER LAYS OUT HER POSITION CLEARLY.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND REFER REFERRING TO THAT.
SO IT'S, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO, TO SCAN THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING PROPOSED FOR DEMOLITION IS IT'S A ONE STORY BUILDING, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS ACTUALLY A BACK VIEW, ELIZABETH, THAT YOU CAN MAYBE GO DOWN ANOTHER PHOTO OR TWO.
THERE'S THE FRONT, IT HAS AN EL PLAN IT'S CLAD IN, UM, BRICK AND HORIZONTAL SIDING AND CAPPED WITH A CROSS GABLED ROOF.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT AS A PARTIAL PARTIAL WITH PORCH WITH, WITH PAIRED COLUMNS AND ALSO BRICK CHIMNEY.
THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED BY MAE ROBINSON AS A THREE UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING.
UH, MARIE QUINLEE CHAMBERS WAS THE LONGEST TERM OCCUPANT
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OF THE BUILDING, AND SHE LIVED THERE WITH HER DAUGHTER FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS FROM THE EARLY 1940S TO THE MID 1950S.DURING THAT TIME, THE FAMILY SHARED THE BUILDING WITH A ROTATION OF OTHER RENTERS, UM, MOSTLY ARMY PERSONNEL AND UT STUDENTS, MARIE CHAMBERS, UM, WAS BORN IN 1893 AND SHE MARRIED LYNDON B CHAMBERS.
UH, THEY LIVED IN ARKANSAS AND LOUISIANA.
UM, ALTHOUGH HE HAD DIED PRETTY EARLY IN HIS EARLY FORTIES, BY THE TIME THE FAMILY MOVED TO AUSTIN AND THEY WERE IN AUSTIN BY 1940.
SO WHILE MARIE CHAMBERS LIVED AT 1201 AND FIELD, SHE WORKED AT THE STATE BOARD OF INSURANCE COMMISSIONERS AND VARIOUS ROLES, KIND OF MID-LEVEL ROLES, UM, INCLUDING THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OVER THE LIFE INSURANCE DIVISION AND DIRECTOR OF AGENCY AGENTS LICENSES.
AS I MENTIONED, THE BUILDING IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE OLD WEST AUSTIN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT STAFF HAS EVALUATED THE BUILDING AGAINST THE CRITERIA FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION AND DETERMINED THAT IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR DESIGNATION THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO DEMOLISH THAT BUILDING.
UM, IF SOMEONE ON SOMEONE'S AN OR UN-MUTED, YOU MIGHT WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK YOURSELF.
I THINK I JUST TOOK CARE OF IT.
I'M SORRY, WHO IS DOING THAT? PEOPLE ARE TALKING IN THE BACKGROUND.
SO THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS A THREE-STORY BUILDING CLAD IN WOOD SITING ON THE GROUND FLOOR, UH, FIXED GLAZING ON THE PRIMARY WALL OF THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR.
AND IN STUCCOED WOOD SIDING ON THE UPPER FLOORS OF THE SECONDARY WALLS, IT'S KEPT BY A ROOF.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOOD VIEW.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN MAKE IT BIGGER, ELIZABETH.
UM, THERE ARE FOUR PAIRS OF CARPORTS UNDER THE GROUND AT THE GROUND FLOOR.
THEY'RE TUCKED UNDER THE BUILDING, UM, FEATURES INCLUDE FULL HEIGHT, FIXED WINDOWS PART, UH, PAIRED PARTIALLY, SORRY, PAIRED FULLY GLAZED DOORS LEADING ONTO THOSE BALCONIES, THE INSET BALCONIES WITH METAL RAILINGS AND DECORATIVE METAL SCREAMS, UM, SEPARATING THEM.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S A FOUR FOOT HIGH CONCRETE BLOCK WALL THAT SCREENS THE GROUND FLOOR.
THE NEW BUILDING PROBABLY SOMEWHAT TO GENERALLY MEETS THE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS.
UH, I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE WHAT MOST OF YOU ALREADY KNOW VERY WELL, WHICH IS THAT THIS STRETCH OF ENFIELD IS, IS QUITE ECLECTIC.
THERE'S A REAL MIX OF DEVELOPMENT ALONG THIS STRETCH.
UM, IT INCLUDES A FEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, BOTH CONTRIBUTING AND NON-CONTRIBUTING, UH, MULTI-FAMILY LANDMARK ACROSS THE STREET, A NUMBER OF HISTORIC AGE, LOW RISE, APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
THEY'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THE DISTRICT.
THEY PROBABLY WEREN'T CONTRIBUTING AT THE TIME THE DISTRICT, THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT WAS DESIGNATED, BUT THEY THEY'RE HISTORIC AGE NOW.
AND THERE'S A NON HISTORIC AGE APARTMENT BUILDING JUST TO THE EAST.
SO JUST, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, IT'S JUST A LITTLE LEFT.
THIS DESIGN IS KIND OF A BRIDGE, UM, BETWEEN THOSE LARGER, LOW RISE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND THE SINGLE FAMILY BUILDINGS IN TERMS OF SCALE, SETBACK AND UNIT WITH THE PROPOSED BUILDING MEETS THE STANDARDS FOR SETBACK, LOT PLACEMENT, ORIENTATION, AND PROPORTION.
IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE HEIGHT OF THE ADJACENT CONTRIBUTING BUILDING TO THE RIGHT, WHICH IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.
IT'S ACTUALLY JUST FOUR INCHES HIGHER THAN THAT HOUSE.
UM, IT IS DESIGNED IN A MODERN STYLE WITH MINIMAL ORIENT, UH, ORNAMENTATION, AS YOU CAN SEE, AND IT CAN BE SEEN AS A MODERN INTERPRETATION OF THE LOW RISE APARTMENT FORMS ON THE STREET.
IT'S CLEARLY DIFFERENTIATED FROM NEARBY CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS.
UM, IT DOES NOT MEET SOME OF THE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE FLAT ROOF IS NOT SIMILAR TO THE ROOFS OF NEARBY CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS.
THE FRONT DOORS WILL NOT BE VISIBLE FROM ENFIELD ROAD.
THEY'RE TUCKED BACK IN THE CARPORTS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE ONE FROM HERE, BUT, BUT FUNCTIONALLY SPEAKING, IT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE VISIBLE.
AND THE STYLE IS REALLY DIFFERENT FROM YOUR BIKE CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS.
THIS ISN'T A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT IS, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION HAS ADVISORY REVIEW OF NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION HERE IS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE EXISTING CONTRIBUTING BUILDING, THEN RELOCATION OVER DEMOLITION, BUT TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE AND TO COMMENT ON AND RELEASE THE PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
THANK YOU, MS. BERTRAM, DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS CASE? LIKE I WOULD CONVEY, I THINK THAT, UM, THE, JUST OF, UM, THE ZONING COMMITTEE CHAIR, MIRIAM, UH, ROSEMARY, MIRIAM, UM, HAD TO DO WITH, WITH THE USE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, I COULD BE, I'M NOT SURE THAT I, UM,
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THAT I GOT EVERYTHING OUT OF THAT, BUT IF ANYBODY HAS READ IT, SHE SENT US A LETTER TO THAT EFFECT.UM, THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, PROPOSAL TO, UH, DEMOLISH A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING AND, AND TO BUILD THIS YEAH.
CAN MAKE I'LL MOVE TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT PENDING THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
DO WE HEAR A SECOND COMMISSIONER? TELL IT SECOND SET.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? UH, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US ARE EAGER.
IT'S LOSING A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY IN A PROMINENT LOCATION, BUT THE LOCATION ALSO ON A VERY BUSY STREET WITH, UH, ECLECTIC DESIGN IN NEARBY, UH, AS MS BERTRAND MENTIONED, UM, AND ITS DENSITY IN AN AREA THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION FOR IT.
SO, UM, I'M NOT THRILLED TO MAKE THE MOTION, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY ALTERNATIVES.
UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RELEASING THE DEMOLITION PERMIT AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED WAS THAT YOU KILLING.
[3.D.2. PR-2020-192534 – 503 E. Annie Street – Discussion Council District 9 (Part 2 of 2)]
UH, NEXT IS D TWO, FIVE OH THREE, ANNIE.THIS IS A CASE THAT HAS APPEARED BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
UH, PREVIOUSLY AT LAST MONTH'S COMMISSION MEETING, THE VOTE WAS TO POSTPONE, TO ALLOW SOME ADDITIONAL TIME FOR DIALOGUE, UH, BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEIR NEIGHBORS.
UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT HAS OCCURRED, UH, WITH NO CHANGE IN WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
SO WHAT WE HAVE, UH, BEFORE US FOR CONSIDERATION IS A DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR THIS 1931 HOUSE, WHICH IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE PENDING, UM, EXCUSE ME, TRAVIS HEIGHTS, FAIRVIEW PARK, NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.
UH, THIS IS A HOUSE THAT STAFF DOES NOT FEEL RISES TO THE OCCASION OF AN INDIVIDUAL LANDMARK EITHER IN TERMS OF DISTINCTIVE ARCHITECTURE OR HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS.
UH, IT'S A RELATIVELY, IT'S A, A LOVELY CRAFTSMEN BUNGALOW, BUT IT'S A RELATIVELY MODEST HOUSE, UH, THAT, UM, HAD WORKING CLASS RESIDENTS, UH, DURING THE HISTORIC PERIOD.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION REMAINS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE USE THAN RELOCATION EVER DEMOLITION THE, ULTIMATELY TO RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION, A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
IT MAY BE, UH, NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF, OF A LANDMARK, BUT JUST LOOKING AT IT.
YOU SEE THAT IT, IT IS SO INTACT IS SUCH A SHAME TO LOSE A BUILDING THAT HAS EVERYTHING THAT IT WAS EVER BORN WITH.
UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS CASE COMMISSIONER COOK, I'LL BE GRUDGINGLY MOVED TO RELEASE A DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION ABOUT CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
DO I HEAR A SECOND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON? I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE, THE MOTION ON THIS.
I JUST CAN'T ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER COOK'S MOTION.
IT'S ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, EIGHT IN FAVOR.
[3.D.5. HR-2021-044151 – 1304 Bob Harrison – Discussion Council District 1 (Part 1 of 2)]
TO 1304.UM, THE PROPOSAL HERE IS TO PARTIALLY DEMOLISH A HOUSE BUILT AROUND 1924 AND CONSTRUCTIVE YOUR ADDITION, THE HOUSE ITSELF IS ONE STORY.
ELIZABETH, CAN YOU PULL UP THAT? UM, YES, I'M WORKING ON IT.
THE HOUSE ITSELF IS ONE STORY IT'S CLOUD AND BOARD AND BATTEN WOOD SIDING AND CAPPED WITH A PYRAMIDAL ROOF WITH EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS.
IT HAS VINYL, SASH REPLACEMENT WINDOWS, A REPLACEMENT DOOR, AND TWO PIPE CHIMNEYS.
UH, THERE'S AN ENTRY PORCH WITH A SHED ROOF THAT SUPPORTED BY SQUARE COLUMNS.
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THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT, UM, AND INHABITED BY THE SAME AFRICAN-AMERICAN FAMILY FOR MORE THAN 45 YEARS, AND ACTUALLY OWNED BY THAT FAMILY FOR ABOUT 75 YEARS.UH, IT WAS BUILT BY SAMUEL AND CLARA POSEY.
THERE WERE TWO SMALL RENTAL HOUSES ON THE SAME LOT, AND, UM, SAMUEL POSEY WAS BORN IN 1860 IN TEXAS.
SO, UM, BEFORE THE, BEFORE, WELL, I GUESS DURING THE CIVIL WAR RIGHT BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR, UM, HE WORKED AS A LABORER FOR THE AUSTIN GASLIGHT COMPANY IN STERNBERG COMPANY.
THOSE ARE OUR JOBS THAT WE KNOW OF.
HE HAD SIX CHILDREN, UH, WHO HE LARGELY RAISED IN A HOUSE ON EAST 13TH STREET NEXT TO THE CAPITOL.
IT'S NOW A PARKING GARAGE AND THAT FAMILY ALSO LIVED FOR A VERY LONG TIME IN THAT HOUSE.
SO HE LIVED IN THE HOUSE UNTIL HE PASSED AWAY IN THE, UH, IN 1941.
AFTER THAT HIS DAUGHTER, UH, EVA AND HIS SON, EDDIE LIVED IN THE HOUSE FROM THE MID 1940S UNTIL ABOUT 1969.
UM, THEY'D MOVED ACTUALLY OVER FROM THE HOUSE ON THE 13TH STREET WHERE THEY GREW UP, EVA POSEY WORKED AS A COOK AND A SERVANT FOR PRIVATE FAMILIES OR IN PRIVATE HOMES.
AND SHE LIVED WITH FAMILY ALL HER LIFE FIRST WITH HER FATHER GROWING UP THEN WITH HER BROTHER IN THE HOUSE WHERE SHE HAD GROWN UP.
AND THEN SHE MOVED TO THIS HOUSE WHERE SHE LIVED WITH HER, HER BROTHER, EDDIE POSEY, UM, A LITTLE MORE IS KNOWN ABOUT HIM.
HE GRADUATED FROM HOUSTON TILLOTSON, UH, COLLEGE, AND HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE LOCAL ALUMNI CHAPTER.
HE, AND THEN IN 1955, HE ATTENDED PEOPLE BUSINESS COLLEGE AND WAS ONE OF FIVE OUTSTANDING CITIZENS WHO WERE HONORED OUT OF, I THINK ABOUT, ABOUT 40 GRADUATES.
HE WORKED AS A PORTER AT THE STATE CAPITOL AND A SHOE SHINER.
UM, HE WAS ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY LIFE.
HE WAS A MASON AND HE WAS ALSO A TRUSTEE IN WESLEY METHODIST CHURCH.
SO HE LIVED IN THE HOUSE SINCE WE DIED IN 1969.
WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE OCCUPANCY RECORDS AFTER THAT.
UM, BUT WE DO KNOW FROM T CAD RECORDS THAT EDDIE SON SOLD THE HOUSE IN 1998, THE FAMILY OWNED IT.
UM, AT LEAST THE FAMILY OWNED IT UNTIL THEN THE, IN TERMS OF, OF POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE HOUSE, UM, THE, IT WAS RECOMMENDED AS A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE TO A POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT BY THE EAST AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY IN 2016, IT IS MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD.
IT APPEARS TO RETAIN A MODERATE TO HIGH DEGREE OF INTEGRITY.
THE MAJOR CHANGES ARE THE WINDOW REPLACEMENTS AND THE DOOR REPLACEMENT.
THE HOUSE MAY MEET TWO CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION AS REQUIRED BY CITY CODE.
FIRST, IT EMBODIES THE DISTINGUISHING CHARACTERISTICS OF THE NATIONAL FOLK STYLE AND MAY BE SIGNIFICANT UNDER THIS CRITERIA.
AND SECOND FOR HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS, THE POSEY FAMILY DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO LOCAL STATE OR NATIONAL HISTORY.
ALTHOUGH I, I WANT TO HASTEN TO SAY THAT THAT ARE OUR RESEARCH RESOURCES FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE ALWAYS LIMITED SIMPLY BECAUSE OF, OF WHAT WAS VALUED WHEN, WHEN A LOT OF THESE ARE ARCHIVAL MATERIALS WERE COLLECTED AND THEY'RE EVEN MORE LIMITED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE DOING ALL VIRTUAL REMOTE RESEARCH.
SO, UM, HOWEVER THE POSIES DO APPEAR TO REPRESENT WORKING CLASS AFRICAN-AMERICANS WHO PURCHASED AND MAINTAINED A HOME FOR DECADES, UH, WHEN THEY, THEY HAD VERY FEW RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THEM.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY NOTABLE.
UM, AND IT MAY BE SIGNIFICANT AS AN EXAMPLE OF, OF A GROUP OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS REPRESENTATIVE WAY, THE PROPOSED PROJECT, UM, MAKES REALLY MINOR CHANGES TO THE EXISTING BUILDING, UM, AND, AND PROPOSES A REAR ADDITION.
SO IT PROPOSES REPLACING THE FRONT PORCH WITH A SLIGHTLY LARGER FOOTPRINT AND CHANGING THE CONFIGURATION OF THAT SOMEWHAT, UH, REPLACING THE REPLACEMENT VINYL SASH WINDOWS WITH CLAD WOOD WINDOWS, A ONE OVER ONE CLAD WOOD WINDOWS USING THE EXISTING WINDOW OPENINGS, REPLACING THE EXISTING, UH, DOOR WITH A FULLY GLAZED WOOD DOOR AND A SIDELIGHT REPLACING THE ASPHALT SHINGLE ROOF WITH A METAL ROOF, ADDING STYLISTS PRESCOTT.
IT'S NOT SHOWN ON THIS ELEVATION, BUT IT'S SHOWN ON THE ROOF PLAN SKYLIGHTS ON THE, ON A COUPLE OF ROOF FLIPS, INCLUDING THE FRONT ONE, UM, TO REPAIR AND PAINT THE EXISTING WOOD SIDING, TRIM AND RAFTER TAILS.
TAKE OFF A COUPLE OF LATER ADDITIONS ON THE SIDE AND THE REAR AND A REAR DECK.
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AND THEN TO CONSTRUCT YOUR REAR ADDITION WITH A FOOTPRINT OF 600 SQUARE FEET, THIS IS THE SIDE VIEW THAT YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN.EXCUSE ME, LOOKING AT THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THE ADDITION CONSISTS OF, UH, IT'S MOST, MOSTLY ONE STORY WITH A DOUBLE HEIGHT TWO-STORY PORTION THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE.
UM, IT IS CLAD IN VERTICAL METAL SIDING CAPPED BY A FLAT ROOF.
UH, WINDOWS ARE, ARE CASEMENT AND FIXED ALUMINUM STASH.
AND IT'S SET BACK BEHIND THE, UM, ENTIRELY BEHIND THE, UH, HISTORIC AGE PORT PART OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, UH, WHICH IS 30 FEET FROM THE FRONT WALL.
UH, THERE'S ALSO A CONCRETE DECK, A LOW, VERY LOW PROFILE CONCRETE DECK PROPOSED BEHIND THE ADDITION, THE, UH, THERE'S EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION OF THE STANDARDS FOR REVIEW, UM, IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH POINT BY POINT, EVEN THOUGH I LIKE YOU GUYS VERY MUCH OR POSSIBLY BECAUSE I LIKE YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, THE, UM, I STAFF FEELS THAT THE ADDITION IS REMARKABLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING BUILDING.
IT BRINGS TO MIND OTHER, UH, SOME OTHER VERY MODERN ADDITIONS TO LANDMARKS.
UM, IT HAS, UH, IT MAINTAINS THE VERTICAL NATURE OF THE SIDING.
IT MAINTAINS, UM, NOT ALL, BUT, BUT A NUMBER OF, UM, SORT OF WINDOW PATTERNS AND, UM, KIND OF SURFACE TO VOID, UH, BETWEEN, UM, THE WALLS AND THE WINDOWS.
I THINK THERE ARE, UH, IT MAINTAINS THE HISTORIC SIGHTING, UM, MAINTAINS THE FORM OF THE HOUSE.
THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS THAT I THINK WOULD NEED TO BE CHANGED IF THE COMMISSION DOES FEEL THAT THIS IS, UH, A POTENTIAL LANDMARK AND CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
SO IF THE COMMISSION DOES, UM, FEEL THAT THAT HOUSE IS POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT THAN STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, THAT THE, UM, THE APPLICANTS COME TO AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING TO DISCUSS THESE ELEMENTS MORE IN DETAIL.
UM, BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A GOOD, I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD PROJECT FOR A NON-DESIGNATED BUILDING.
AND I THINK WITH SOME, WITH SOME, UM, SMALL CHANGES, IT COULD BE A VERY GOOD PROJECT FOR A POTENTIALLY DESIGNATED BUILDING, DEPENDING ON, ON HOW THE COMMISSION FEELS ABOUT THE, UH, PARTICULARLY IF I THINK ABOUT THE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS, WHETHER THE REPRESENTATIVE NATURE OF THE POSEY FAMILY, UH, IS SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO, UM, EITHER DO MORE RESEARCH OR WHAT PROBABLY TO DO MORE RESEARCH AND POTENTIALLY INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING.
SO THE DEF RECOMMENDATION, ALL OF THAT SAID THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER YOU THINK IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
AND IF SO, EITHER POSTPONE IT TO MAY 24TH OR INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING NOW, BUT EITHER WAY DIRECT STAFF TO COMPLETE ADDITIONAL RESEARCH, UH, AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON WHAT HISTORIC THAT DESIGNATION WOULD ENTAIL AND INVITE THE, THE PROPOSED, UH, INVITE THE ARCHITECT AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO COME TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR FEEDBACK TO DISCUSS, UM, WHAT CHANGES MIGHT BE MADE TO THE ADDITION.
IF THE COMMISSION DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT THE HOUSE MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT YOU RELEASE THE PERMIT TONIGHT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
I THINK YOU HEARD FROM, FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS DOING PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT THEY ARE OPEN TO HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION, IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSION, UH, FEELS, UM, THAT THEY W THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT LARGELY AS DESIGNED.
SO IF, IF, UH, IF THAT SEEMED LIKE IT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE POSSIBLE, UM, WITH HISTORIC DESIGNATION, THEY WOULD, THEY, UH, MAY NOT BE THAT AMENABLE TO IT.
THANK YOU, MS. BURKE, JOHN, UM, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THIS CASE? AGAIN, THE STAFF WANTED US TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE HOUSE MEETS CRITERIA FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION AND IT'S SO MOST PONANT TO THE MAY 24, UH, MEETING OR INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL RESEARCH AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND THIS IS A MULTI, UH, MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING, NO MULTILEVEL, UH, RECOMMENDATION AND REFER THE PROPOSED PROJECT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW EMBEDDING.
I THINK YOUR FIRST ITEM OF CONSIDERATION IS, IS THIS PROPERTY, UM, DO YOU THINK THIS IS PROPERTY IS ELIGIBLE? SHOULD WE INITIATE ZONING COMMISSIONER COOK
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FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, I'M GOING TO MOVE INTO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO ATTEND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING.DO I HEAR, UM, A SECOND, I HEAR A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LAURA RUSH.
UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR MOTION? YEAH, IT'S, THIS IS SO CLOSE TO, UH, A REALLY GOOD ADDITION, I THINK WITH A FEW MINOR CHANGES, UM, IT'S ALREADY GONE SO FAR TO BEING COMPLIANT AND WE HAVE A POTENTIALLY WILLING OWNER FOR A BUILDING SITE THAT RARELY GETS LANDMARKED, EVEN THOUGH I THINK THE POLITICAL ASSOCIATIONS ARE KIND OF SLIM.
WE OFTEN SEE PATTERNS OF HABITATION AND OCCUPATION BEING LISTED AS A HISTORIC ASSOCIATION.
AND, UM, I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO ASK THE OWNER IF THEY'RE ON A TIGHT TIME ON HER, OR THEY'RE WILLING TO EXPLORE THIS OVER THE NEXT MONTH, BECAUSE I'D BE JUST AS HAPPY.
I DON'T THINK THE ALTERATIONS ARE SO GREAT AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESTORING THE WINDOWS.
UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE FINE AS IS, BUT I KIND OF WANTED TO EXPLORE THE OPPORTUNITY OF ADDING A LANDMARK IN AN AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE MANY OF A BUILDING TYPE THAT ISN'T REPRESENTED WELL AMONG OUR LANDMARKS.
IF WE INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING, AS YOU, AS YOU REMOVED THAT WOULD GET STAFF MORE TIME TO DO FOR THE RESEARCH THAT THEY COULD PRESENT TO THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING COMMISSIONER COOK, WOULD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE, IF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK IF THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ON THE LINE, THEY MAY BE ABLE, UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK THEM A DIRECT QUESTION DOWN THE LINE? I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THERE, THERE ARE SENTIMENTS ABOUT THE TIMELINE AND, AND POTENTIAL DESIGNATION, RIGHT.
UM, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE HAD RAISED HIS HAND.
UH, CAN I HEAR FROM HIM FIRST? I WAS JUST GOING TO ECHO YOUR, YOUR EARLIER COMMENT.
UH, KARA, WOULD YOU MIND SHOWING ME THAT ROOF? OKAY, SURE.
ELIZABETH, CAN YOU PULL THAT UP? I'M SORRY.
I WAS TALKING WITH THE AB TECH TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS UN-MUTED.
WHAT WAS THE REQUEST TO SEE THE ROOF PLAN OF THE BUILDING THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW? CERTAINLY IT'S MORE OF CURIOSITY THAN ANYTHING ELSE, ELIZABETH.
ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL ROOF PLAN? THE PYRAMIDAL ROOF HERE.
UM, NOW WE WERE, UM, ASKING IF THE, IF THE APPLICANTS ARE STILL ON THE LINE.
MY HUSBAND'S WITH ME, PATRICK.
UM, SO YES, I DID WE SO FULL DISCLOSURE.
THIS IS ALL, WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
UM, WE'RE LEARNING KIND OF VERY QUICKLY.
UM, THE LEARNING CURVE HAS BEEN STEEP JUST TODAY.
WE SPOKE TO KARA ON THE PHONE.
UM, BUT I GUESS WE'RE, WE'RE JUST LIKE UNCLEAR OF HOW LONG THIS WOULD POSTPONE THE PROJECT, JUST BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A YEAR.
AND, UM, WE JUST, IF IT'S JUST A MONTH, I THINK DEFINITELY WE'RE OPEN TO WAITING BECAUSE WE DO CARE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AND CARE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY AND THE, THE POSEY FAMILY.
WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE SOME RESEARCH ON OUR OWN ABOUT, AND, UM, I MEAN, RESEARCH WHO BOB HARRISON WAS, AND WE JUST REALLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF LIVING ON THE EAST SIDE AND RESPECTING, UM, THE HISTORY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WHICH IS A HUGE PART OF WHY WE WERE REALLY INTENTIONAL WITH THE DESIGN THAT WE CREATED WITH WELL, UM, BUT YEAH, JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT KIND OF, UM, TIMELINE WE SHOULD EXPECT JUST MOVING FORWARD.
IF WE DO MAKE IT LANDMARK, IF WE INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING TONIGHT, WE COULD, UM, THEORETICALLY RECOMMENDED AT THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN IT WOULD GO FORWARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, AND, AND ON TO CITY COUNCIL, UH, COMMISSIONER VALANCE AND LAYLA.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY THINGS, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PROCESSES HERE.
THERE'S THE, UM, I GUESS IF WE WERE TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING, THEN WE WOULD ALSO APPROVE THIS AS A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, KIND OF LIKE, UH, WHAT WE DID FOR OUR FIRST CASE TONIGHT, CONTINGENT ON IT BECOMING A HISTORIC LANDMARK, BUT THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS COULD BE APPROVED
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SOONER THAN THE HISTORIC LANDMARK STATUS WOULD BE APPROVED.ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CARRIE HAD RECOMMENDED THAT IF WE INITIATE A START ZONING, THAT WE REFER THIS TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH IS, UM, TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE NEXT LANDMARK COMMISSION.
UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GO TO THE, I, I AM IN FAVOR OF INITIATING HISTORY ZONING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GO TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, I KNOW THAT CARA AND COMMISSIONER COOK THINK THAT THAT THE, UH, EDITION IS APPROPRIATE, BUT I THINK I'D LIKE TO, UH, HAVE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT AT, AT THAT MEETING, WHICH IS A MORE INFORMAL MEETING, UM, TO THE APPLICANTS.
I THINK WHERE WE'RE IN FAVOR OF THAT OR WHERE AGREEMENT TO DO THAT.
IT WOULDN'T, UM, I THINK THE FAST IS THAT COULD MOVE, WOULD BE INITIATE TONIGHT.
GO, YOU WOULD GO TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.
IT WOULD COME BACK TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION AT THE FOURTH, MONDAY IN MAY, AND THEN WE WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AT THAT POINT.
IS THAT AMENABLE TO YEMEN? YEAH.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSION MEMBERS? I THINK THAT, UM, MS
AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER, UM, I THINK WE HAD TWO SHOTGUN HOUSES SURVIVING ON BOB HARRISON.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE STILL STANDING, BUT THIS WAS A, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A WORKING NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE OWN THEIR OWN HOMES.
AND IT'S, IT WAS, THESE HOUSES WERE SIGNIFICANT TO THE PEOPLE AND HAVING A FAMILY LIVE IN IT FOR THIS LONG MEANS SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE IT'S A WORKING CLASS FAMILY DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE HOUSE IS NOT SIGNIFICANT FOR THEIR FIRST ASSOCIATIONS WITH THAT FAMILY.
SO I WOULD SUPPORT THE MOTION.
UM, DOES YOUR, DOES YOUR MOTION INCLUDE GOING TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE? UH, OKAY THEN, UM, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, LET'S TAKE A VOTE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF INITIATING A CERTAIN ZONING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND ANY OPPOSED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPLICANTS FOR YOUR I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME.
I'M JUGGLING MANY PAPERS HERE, SO, OKAY.
WELL, THAT'LL DO ON, UH, LET'S HEAR THAT AT THE NEXT YES.
UH, COMMISSIONER VALANCE VILLA.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE EXTEND OUR MEETING TO 10 32, UM, CONSIDER THE REMAINING ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA.
CAN I HEAR A SECOND COMMISSIONER COOK SECONDS AND MOTION? LET'S UM, LET'S VOTE ON THIS.
I THINK WE CAN FINISH UP HERE AND NOT TOO LONG.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING OUR MEETING TO 10 30, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
ANY OPPOSED COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON AS OPPOSED? OKAY.
[3.D.7. HR-2021-044092 – 2040 E. Cesar Chavez St. – Discussion Council District 3]
20, 40 EAST CESAR CHAVEZ.HERE'S THIS, THIS CALENDAR FOR NEXT ITEM IS 2040 CESAR CHAVEZ STREET.
AND THIS IS A APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH A, OF CIRCA 1926.
SHARE THIS WITH THE AB TECH I'M CONCERNED.
I'M WONDERING IF Y'ALL CAN, WE CAN HEAR KALIN, BUT IT'S VERY, VERY, UM, LIGHT LIGHTLY.
WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU CAROLYN.
HOW ABOUT NOW? OH, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
UM, THIS IS A ONE STORY NATIONAL FOLK RESIDENCE.
UM, IT'S GOT BOARD AND BEN SIDING AND A PYRAMIDAL HIPPED ROOF CLADDING, CORRUGATED METAL.
UM, THE ROOF FEATURES EXPOSED RAFTER TAILS, AND THERE'S AN INSET PARTIAL WITH PORCH SUPPORTED BY BOX COLUMNS.
UM, AND THE BUILDING HAS SCREENED ONE OVER ONE WINDOWS.
THIS HOUSE WAS CONSTRUCTED AROUND 1927 BY THE FALL FAMILY.
UH, THE CO FALLS WERE BORN IN OLD SLOW GERMANY AND SETTLED IN AUSTIN IN 19 AND 1878.
UM, AND CHRISTIAN CO FALL WAS ASSESSED AT SUCCESSFUL BARBER WHO OPERATED SEVERAL BARBERSHOPS AND SALONS AROUND TOWN, INCLUDING FOR THE DRISCOLL HOTEL.
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HE WAS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE GERMAN LUTHERAN CHURCH AND SERVED AS ONE OF THE FIRST ELDERS OF ST.UM, AND THAT ORGANIZATION'S FIRST BUILDING OF WORSHIP WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1885 ON LAND DONATED BY FALL.
HE DIED IN 1930 AND SHORTLY AFTER HIS FAMILY VACATED THE HOME IN 1932 INTO THE 1940S, THE PROPERTY BECAME PRIMARILY A RENTAL AND ITS SHORT-TERM RESIDENTS INCLUDED ELECTRICIANS, MECHANICS, SALESMEN, AND BOOKKEEPERS DURING THE FORTIES, IT WAS OCCUPIED BY A SERVICE MEN, A FIREFIGHTER, AND A DRIVER AND THEIR FAMILIES.
AND BY 1954 OTIS ROW, UH, LIVED IN THE HOME AND HE OPERATED A SERVICE STATION ACROSS THE STREET AT 2027 EAST CESAR CHAVEZ STREET IN 1957, ALBERT G AND ZONE, THE CONSULTANTS PURCHASED THE HOUSE AND THEY SOLD IT AROUND TWO YEARS LATER TO ROSA GILLION IN THE 2016 EAST AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY.
THIS PROPERTY IS LISTED AS ELIGIBLE FOR LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION, AS WELL AS INDIVIDUAL LISTING ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES.
UM, AND THAT SURVEY ALSO, UM, LABELS THIS BUILDING AS CONTRIBUTING TO A POTENTIAL LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT AND CONTRIBUTING TO A POTENTIAL NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT.
UM, AND THE SURVEY LISTS ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS AS THE QUALIFYING CRITERIA.
UM, THE BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED IN THE NATIONAL FOLK STYLE AND RELATIVELY INTACT.
UM, AND THE SURVEY IDENTIFIES THE PROPERTY'S OCCUPANCY HISTORY AS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES AND SETTLEMENT PATTERNS AMONG WORKING TO MIDDLE-CLASS RENTERS IN EAST AUSTIN DURING THE 20TH CENTURY.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS PROPERTY, UH, IS TO CONSIDER INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING.
UM, BUT SHOULD THE COMMISSION CHOOSE NOT TO INITIATE AND TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT, UH, STAFF REQUESTS COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
THANK YOU, CAROLYN, DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS CASE? I'M GOING TO START PICKING PEOPLE, MAKE A MOTION.
DOES THIS, DOES THIS HOUSE RISE TO THE LEVEL OF LANDMARK STATUS? SHOULD WE INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING OR SHOULD WE RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT WITH, UH, THESE ARE OPTIONS THAT THE STAFF HAS GIVEN US.
SOMEBODY STEPPED FORWARD VERMONT UPON COMPLETION DOCUMENT PACKAGE.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? I HEAR A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE AND A SECOND TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT, UM, THAT REQUIRING A CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, UH, FOR YOUR INFORMATION COMMISSIONER, UM, THAT'S PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL FACADES AND HISTORIC NARRATIVE TO BE ARCHIVED AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OPPOSED.
OKAY, LET'S SEE THAT VOTE AGAIN.
ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE IN FAVOR AND OPPOSED ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.
NO, UH, COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA.
WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE, UH, A MAJORITY OF VOTED IN FAVOR OF RELEASING THE DEMOLITION PERMIT.
AND THIS IS WHAT THE, THIS IS NOT AN OPPOSITION TO THE, UM, OWNER'S WISHES TO CLARIFY.
WE ARE DOWN ONE COMMISSIONER WE'RE CONSIDERED TO HAVE ONE VACANCY TONIGHT.
UM, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE, UH, WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE, UH, UH, EIGHT.
SO COMMISSIONER CASTILLO HAS NOT COMPLETED ALL OF THE REQUIRED ONBOARDING, UH, WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE IN TO ATTEND AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING.
UM, SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A QUORUM OUT OF 10, RATHER THAN, UH, OUT OF 11 TO PASS.
I JUST DID MY TRAINING, MY, MY, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER TRAINING.
AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE S WE ARE OUR QUORUM STILL.
EVEN IF WE'RE DOWN COMMISSIONERS, WE STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE 11 MEMBER FORUM.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM, I JUST TOOK THE TRAINING LAST WEEK.
I, I DISCUSSED WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT RELATIVE TO WHAT WOULD CONSTITUTE
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A SUPER MAJORITY.AND, UH, IT WOULD BE EIGHT RATHER THAN NINE OF 10.
I DID NOT THINK TO ASK WHAT WOULD BE A SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE AND A CASE SUCH AS THIS, BUT, UM, AYE.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SIX TO PASS AN APPLICATION THAT THE OWNER IS IN FAVOR OF.
DO WE BE A MAJORITY VOTE TO PASS? I THINK IT JUST HAS TO BE A MAJORITY.
AND WE HAD FIVE IN FAVOR OF RELEASING OUR TOTAL MEMBERSHIP, WHICH IS 11.
IS THAT WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND? I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE SIX BOATS EITHER WAY, OR WE DON'T HAVE A VOTE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF FIVE OF 10 IS SUFFICIENT TO PASS.
UH, WE HAVE ONE ABSENCE THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED.
I'M HAPPY TO CONTACT THE LAW DEPARTMENT IF WE WANTED TO TABLE THIS AND COME BACK TO IT.
LET'S TABLE THIS AND PLEASE CONTACT THE LAW DEPARTMENT.
CAN WE, UM, WE'LL TABLE IT AND TRY TO GET AN ANSWER THIS EVENING.
I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE TO VOTE.
CAN I, CAN I HEAR A MOTION THAT WE TABLE, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE THE VOTE TO TABLE THE CASE.
A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLING IT.
UM, IF YOU CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH LAW DEPARTMENT, UM, OUR NEXT
[3.D.9. HR-2021-044104 – 1807 Brackenridge St. – Discussion Council District 9 (Part 2 of 2)]
CASE IS D NINE 1807 BRECKENRIDGE.AND AGAIN, THIS IS A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY AND THE PENDING TRAVIS HEIGHTS, HISTORIC DISTRICT NINE IS A PROPOSAL TO RELOCATE, RELOCATE A CIRCA 1910 HOUSE TO PROPERTY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
THIS IS A ONE-STORY CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW WITH HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING, ONE OVER ONE, SINGLE AND PAIRED WOOD WINDOWS WITH SCREENS ACROSS GABLED, CORRUGATED METAL ROOF WITH TRIANGULAR EAT BRACKETS, VERTICAL SLAT VENTS AT THE CABLES IN A PARTIAL WITH GABLE PORCH, WITH BOX COLUMNS AND TRIANGLE TRIANGULAR BRACKETS AT THAT GABLE END, THIS HOUSE, UH, WAS CONSTRUCTED AROUND 1910 AND SERVE PRIMARILY AS A RENTAL PROPERTY THROUGHOUT THE FIRST HALF OF THE 20TH CENTURY.
ITS FIRST RESIDENT WAS CARPENTER RANSOM, JAY BROOKS, MOST OCCUPANTS LIVE THERE, SHORT TERM, UM, PRODUCE SALESMEN BENJAMIN FOREST WRIGHT RESIDED THERE FROM 1912 TO 1916.
AND HE WAS AMONG ONE OF THE LONGER TERM RENTERS.
OTHER OCCUPANTS INCLUDED FARMERS, SALESPEOPLE, SALESPEOPLE, TEACHERS, AND TELEPHONE AND ELECTRIC COMPANY EMPLOYEES.
AND AS CHAIR MYERS, UH, MENTIONED, THIS HOUSE IS LISTED AS A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE TO THE PENDING TRAVIS HEIGHTS AND FAIRVIEW NATIONAL REGISTER.
HISTORIC DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THIS BUILDING, UH, BUT TO RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS CASE? I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION EITHER TO INITIATE A STRICT ZONING OR TO POSTPONE THIS TO, UM, OUR MAIN MEETING TO GATHER FURTHER INFORMATION ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE HOUSE.
I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME ERROR IN THE STAFF'S PRESENTATION ABOUT THE DATE OF CONSTRUCTION AND THE OWNERSHIP.
AND I'D BE GLAD TO TALK TO SAP STAFF ABOUT THAT LATER.
DO I HEAR A MOTION COMMISSIONER I'LL MOVE TO POSTPONE AND MEETING TO INVESTIGATE FURTHER.
DO I HEAR A SECOND SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER? RIGHT.
ALL IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS TO THE MAY MEETING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THE ITEM IS POSTPONED TO THE MAY MEETING AND I'LL, I'LL GET TOGETHER WITH STAFF.
[3.D.10. HR-2021-044123 – 907 W. 22nd Half St. – Discussion Council District 9]
AT NINE OH SEVEN WEST 22ND AND A HALF STREET IS ANOTHER PRESENTATION BY CALLAN[04:00:01]
CONTRAREZ.ITEM D 10 IS ANOTHER RELOCATION PROPOSAL, UM, TO RELOCATE A 1926 HOUSE TO A PROPERTY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
UM, AND THIS IS A ONE STORY BUNGALOW CLAD AND HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING.
UH, WITH ONE OVER ONE WOULD WIMP WINDOWS AND SIX OVER ONE WITH SCREENS.
IT'S GOT A PARTIAL WIDTH PORCH SUPPORTED BY MASONRY PIERS AND TAPERED WOOD BOX COLUMNS.
DECORATIVE DETAILS INCLUDE EXPOSED RAFTERS, TRIANGULAR, KNEE BRACES, AND JIGS ON BARGE BOARDS.
A FLAT ROOF DOES BEST AS SHINGLE CLOUD EDITION EXTENDS TO THE REAR OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.
AND THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1926 FOR PERCY, A MCDANIEL AND HIS FAMILY.
MS. DANIEL WAS AN ADJUSTER FOR THE STATE BOARD OF INDUSTRIAL ACCIDENTS.
AND, UH, THEY LIVED THERE FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS, UH, ALONG WITH HIS MOTHER AND HIS DAUGHTER BY 1937, THE HOME HAD BECOME A RENTAL PROPERTY AND SOME NOTABLE RENTERS INCLUDED GRADY PHOBIA, WHO WAS THE TREASURER OF THE LOWER COLORADO RIVER AUTHORITY, AS WELL AS HIS WIFE AND SON BY 1952, THE HOME HAD BEEN SOLD TO HENRY H AND ALMA HUNT.
HENRY H. HUNT WORKED AS AN ASSISTANT AUDITOR AT THE STATE EMPLOYMENT COMMISSION WHILE, UM, AFTER HIS DEATH, OMAHA LIVED IN THE HOME UNTIL AT LEAST 1959.
UH, WHILE THIS BUILDING RETAINED TIME MATERIAL AND DESIGN INTEGRITY, IT HAS LOST ITS INTEGRITY OF SETTING.
AND THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND ADAPTIVE REUSE, BUT EVENTUALLY RELEASED THE RELOCATION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
I THOUGHT THAT I WAS GOING DEAF.
SO I JUST STARTED LOOKING AROUND.
UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS CASE? WE HAVE ANOTHER PERFECTLY GOOD CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW HERE.
OH, IT'D BE GRUDGINGLY MOVE TO RELEASE A DEMOLITION PERMIT PENDING A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, COMMISSIONER SECOND TO RELOCATION RELOCATION.
I MEAN, IT'S LEAVING IT'S WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES.
ONCE WE APPROVE A RELOCATION, REALLY, UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS CASE, IT'S, IT'S A SHAME TO LOSE IT.
IT'S INTACT, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK IT WOULD MEET THE BAR FOR TWO SUPER MAJORITY VOTES ALONG THE WAY TO GET UP ALONG THE WAY.
IT'S JUST, AND IT'S A HIGH PRESSURE AREA FOR DENSITY AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LANDMARKS THE AREA ALREADY.
UH, SO IT'S A PATRIOTISM, BUT IT'S JUST PART OF THE JOB I WOULD LIVE IN THIS HOUSE.
WITHOUT, WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
UH, CAN I HEAR, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, WHICH IS TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT OR RELOCATION PERMIT WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
UM, OUR PROPOSED, UH, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON AND COMMISSIONER, MY BORDER YOU'RE VOTING IN FAVOR.
YOU'RE A LITTLE SLOW THERE ON THE HAND-RAISING.
[3.D.12. PR-2021-048041, GF-2021-050281 – 905 E. 2nd St. – Discussion Council District 3 (Part 2 of 2)]
OF CASES D 12, NINE OH FIVE EAST SECOND STREET, PARTIALLY DEMOLISH, UM, UH, 1906 HOUSE AND A CONSTRUCTED TWO STORY REAR ADDITION, INSIGHT EDITION.UH, THIS IS ANOTHER TALENT, UH, ANOTHER CASE, BUT CALLEN, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR US? I DO.
UM, THIS IS A ONE STORY EL PLAN FOLK VICTORIAN HOUSE WITH ACROSS HIPS METAL ROOF, HORIZONTAL WOOD SIDING, A PARTIAL WIDTH SHED ROOF PORCH WITH CHAMPER POSTS AND JIGS ON BRACKETS AND TWO OVER TWO WOOD WINDOWS WITH SCREENS.
UM, AND ELIZABETH, IF YOU DON'T MIND PULLING UP THE PLANS FOR THIS, UM, IT MIGHT HELP OUT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THE HOUSE AT NINE OH FIVE EAST SECOND STREET WAS CONSTRUCTED AROUND 1906.
UM, ITS EARLIEST OCCUPANTS WERE RENTERS WHO WORKED AT THE NEARBY
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RAIL YARDS AS THEY EMERGED.UM, AND THEY STAYED IN THE HOME FOR RELATIVELY SHORT PERIODS AND OFTEN SHARED THE BUILDING WITH ANOTHER FAMILY.
THESE OTHER OCCUPANTS INCLUDED CLERKS, DRIVERS, CARPENTERS, AND TELEPHONE COMPANY EMPLOYEES IN THE LATE 1920S.
THE HOME WAS OCCUPIED PRIMARILY BY THE ROLLING FAMILY.
WILLIAM ROLLINGS WORKED AT THE CITY WATER AND LIGHT DEPARTMENT WHILE HIS WIFE BERTHA WORKED AS A FINISHER AT THE AUSTIN HOTELS LAUNDRY.
SOME OF THE ROLLING STARTERS ALSO WORKED AS LAUNDRESSES AND HOTEL LAUNDRY STAFF, ALONG WITH THEIR MOTHER, THEIR SONS WORKED AS A TRUCK DRIVER AND A CHAUFFER, SOME OTHER LONGER-TERM RENTERS INCLUDED LEVI AND MARY VAN SICKLE, WHO WAS AN ENGINEER IN HIS EVENTUAL WIDOW AND MILSON B HEIRS AND HIS WIFE AND SON, UM, ERRORS WAS AN ELEVATOR OPERATOR WHILE HIS SON WORKED AS A MACHINIST AND A CARPENTER ALL IN ALMA FIC, A CIGAR COMPANY, EMPLOYEE, AND A CLERK LIVED IN THE HOUSE IN THE LATE 1950S, ALONG WITH THEIR SON, PAUL JR.
WHO ALSO FOUND A JOB AT ELI WITH CIGARS BY 1959.
BUT YOUR TOM RESENDIZ AND HIS WIFE, MARY WERE THE HOMES PRIMARY RESIDENCE.
AND THEY REMAINED THERE IN THE HOUSE UNTIL AT LEAST 1968 PROJECT MEETS MOST OF THE CITY'S DESIGN STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM WITH YOU.
UM, BUT THIS PROPERTY IS RECOMMENDED AS, UH, ELIGIBLE AS A CITY OF AUSTIN LANDMARK AND INDIVIDUALLY, INDIVIDUALLY ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES IN THE 2016 EAST AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING, UM, THE REAR INSIDE ADDITIONS.
UM, SO I WILL, UM, SUGGEST THAT THIS BUILDING IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF FOLK VICTORIAN ARCHITECTURE AND, UH, THE 2016 SURVEY, UM, STATES THAT THIS PROPERTY IS ASSOCIATED EAST AUSTIN'S DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, UH, ITS DEMOGRAPHIC SHIFTS AND ITS RESIDENT LIFEWAYS, UH, LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES WE'VE SEEN TODAY.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONSIDER INITIATING HISTORIC ZONING, UH, PER THE SURVEY RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF THE COMMISSION FEELS THAT THIS BUILDING DOES NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF LANDMARKING, UM, STAFF SUGGESTS THAT THE COMMISSION ENCOURAGED THE APPLICANT TO SLIGHTLY REDESIGN THE ADDITION, UM, SO THAT IT IS LOCATED FULLY BEHIND THE REAR WALL OF THE HISTORIC BUILDING, UM, AND MINIMIZING THE ROOF HEIGHT AND USING SOME HORIZONTAL SIDING, UM, WHICH THE APPLICANT STATED EARLIER THAT THEY ARE AMENABLE TO, UM, AND RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.
UM, CAROLYN, I HAVE A QUESTION HERE, THE RENDERINGS, UM, DON'T SHOW THE PORCH.
IS THAT JUST, UM, JUST FOR BREVITY'S SAKE, THEY'RE NOT PLANNING TO TAKE OUT THE TURN PORCH PORCH POST SESSION, UM, AND BRACKETS, ARE THEY OKAY? THAT WAS NOT INDICATED IN THE APPLICATION CHAIR MYERS.
UM, THIS IS PRIMARILY AN APPLICATION TO PARTIALLY DEMOLISH THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.
UM, BUT ON THAT FRONT, THERE IS, YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE POST APPEAR TO REMAIN THE BRACKETS ARE NOT SHOWN THE PORT.
THE PALACE APPEAR TO BE LIKE A SQUARE, A SQUARE POST.
THIS MAY BE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY PICKED A POST A POST AND PUT IT IN HERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW FOR SURE THAT THEY PLAN TO KEEP THEIR, THIS, THIS IS NOT JUST A GOOD EXAMPLE.
THIS IS A RARE, EXCELLENT, INTACT EXAMPLE OF A FOOT VICTORIAN CROSS HIP HOUSE.
AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ELEMENTS ARE BEING RETAINED IN THE, IN WHATEVER THEY PLAN TO DO WITH THIS, BUT I AGREE SHARE MYERS AND IF THE APPLICANTS ARE STILL ON THE LINE, UM, IT WOULD BE A, UH, A GOOD QUESTION FOR THEM.
ARE THE APPLICANT STILL ON THE LINE? UM, APPLICANT IS, I DON'T KNOW IF APPLICANTS ON THE, ON THE LINE SHE'S OUR ART OR DESIGN PROFESSIONAL, BUT I AM THE, THE, THE OWNER AND A CURRENT RESIDENT.
THEN THE QUESTION, THE POSTS AND THE, AND THE, UH, THE JIGSAW, RIGHT? THE TURN POWER PORCH, PAUSE PIE LASTERS AND GITXSAN WORK, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
WELL, THAT, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING WITH OUR, WITH OUR CYBER PROFESSIONAL.
THAT ONE OF OUR CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY WITH HOPE IS, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH, UH, WITH THE PORCH.
I HAD TO ACTUALLY STABILIZE THE STRUCTURE WHEN I, WHEN I BOUGHT IT A REPAIRED THE ENTIRE, THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, DURING THAT PROCESS, WE, WE HAD TO DO SOME MINOR REPLACEMENT IN THOSE POSTS AND THOSE POSTS ARE SEVERELY, UM, UH, AGED, LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY, BUT, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE A MINIMAL
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TO, UH, REPLACEMENT, UM, AND RETAINING THE CHARACTER.I THINK THERE IS SOME DAMAGE TO SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE JIGSAW AND, UM, OUR, OUR INTENT WAS TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING, UM, TRUE TO THE CHARACTER OF THE HOUSE AND MAINTAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT FULL VICTORIAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A VERY LIMITED, I FEEL LIKE IN THIS HOUSE, BUT, BUT WE, WE STILL WANT TO RETAIN THAT, THAT, UH, THAT FOLK VICTORIAN CHARACTER.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY PLANNING ON, ON RETAINING, UH, THOSE ELEMENTS AS BEST WE CAN.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE HIM OR CARED RATHER THAN REPLACED, BUT, UM, WE CAN, WE NEED TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION ON THIS CASE.
ANOTHER QUESTION OF THE OWNER, IF THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO LANDMARK STATUS, IF IT WERE INITIATED.
UM, I, I FEEL LIKE WHILE, WHILE INDEED OUR, OUR, OUR HOUSE, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE FOLK VICTORIAN ARCHITECTURE AND, UM, W WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE COMMISSIONER, WE, YOU KNOW, AND WE THINK IT'S REALLY CUTE AND, YOU KNOW, AND, BUT WE, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT IS AN EXEMPLARY EXAMPLE, UM, COMPARED TO WHAT WE FEEL CAN BE FOUND IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND REGARDING TO ITS HISTORICAL AND TECHNIQUE, UH, BEYOND THE DESIGN, UM, WE FEEL LIKE THE MATERIAL AND WORKMANSHIP, UM, SETTING, LOCATION, FEELING, AND THE ASSOCIATIONS ARE NOT PARTICULARLY UNIQUE OR, OR, OR NOTEWORTHY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS, IF APPEARED TO BE JUST LIKE US, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE YOUR, YOUR AVERAGE CONTRIBUTING CITIZEN LOOKING TO MAKE A GOOD LIFE AND A GOOD HOME.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE.
WE'RE, WE'RE IN IT FOR THE LONG HAUL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THIS TO BE OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR FOREVER HOME.
SO, UM, SO, SO AT THIS TIME, I DON'T THINK WE'D NECESSARILY BE OPEN TO THAT.
UM, AND YOU WERE AWARE THAT, UM, THAT THE CONSULTANTS WHO DID THE SURVEY RECOMMENDED IT FOR BOTH, UH, LANDMARK STATUS AND NATIONAL REGISTER LISTING? YEAH.
WE LOOKED AT THE, UH, AT THE HISTORIC SURVEY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UM, WELL, BEFORE WE KIND OF EMBARKED ON THIS, UM, AND THEN AS OF LATELY, IT'S KIND OF JOGGED MY MEMORY.
WE KIND OF LOOKED THROUGH THAT AS WELL.
COMMISSIONERS, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE COMMISSIONER COOK.
NO, I CAN'T MAKE MYSELF DO IT.
I DIDN'T ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING BASED ON ITS HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS AND ITS INTACT ARCHITECTURE.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? I THINK THIS IS THE BEST PROPERTY THAT CAME BEFORE US TONIGHT.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT I WAS A LITTLE TORN ON THIS BECAUSE THE ADDITION DOES SEEM SO SENSITIVE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME MINOR DETAILS.
IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE PHOTOS, I SEEM TO STABILIZE WITH SOME AVATRON AND THE LITTLE BASEMENT, BASICALLY WORKMANSHIP ON THE POSTS, THE ADDITION, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THE SECOND STORY.
IT COULD BE AT LEAST CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE IT A LESS PROMINENT, BUT BY AND LARGE, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY AN ATTEMPT TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC HOME.
AND, UH, DESIGNATION COMES WITH BENEFITS.
IT WAS, YOU KNOW, DETERMINED BY A PROFESSIONAL TO, TO QUALIFY.
IT MAY NOT BE SEEING UNIQUE NOW, BUT IT'S BECOMING INCREASINGLY UNIQUE.
UH, IT'S IN AN AREA WHERE THESE ARE COMING DOWN AND I I'M TORN BECAUSE WHEN AN OWNER SHOWS THIS KIND OF SENSITIVITY, I ALSO DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, NO, NO, NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.
AND SO I KIND OF WANTED TO GO ALONG WITH, WITH, WITH THEIR WISHES, WHICH WERE STATED, ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY.
UM, BUT UM, I'M GOING TO, TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
UH, ARE YOU MAKING A SECOND THEN? WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND ON THIS MOTION.
OH, I THOUGHT WE HAD A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK I'VE SEEN, I DID, I DID A SURVEY OF EAST AUSTIN IN 2000 AND SINCE THEN I'VE SEEN HOUSES LIKE THIS GO DOWN LEFT AND RIGHT ALL OVER EAST AUSTIN.
AND I THINK, I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY LARGER FANCIER
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VICTORIAN HOUSES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.UM, THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF SURVIVING EXAMPLES OF THIS PARTICULAR TYPE, ESPECIALLY THE CROSS HIP WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, THE VICTORIAN DETAILS AT THIS HOUSE HOUSE.
AND I, I JUST REALLY LIKE TO SEE IT, UM, CNC PRESERVED, PERFECTED AND, AND HIGHLIGHTED.
SO I WOULD SUPPORT THE MOTION.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW TO THE OWNER THAT LIKE THE PREVIOUS CASE, A WORST CASE SCENARIO, THIS WILL BE A ONE MONTH DELAY.
AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO ATTEND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE, THE FEW LITTLE TWEAKS I THINK THAT COULD BE MADE TO AT THE VERY LEAST MAKE IT, UH, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE THE EFFORTS TO MAKE IT, UH, A VERY SENSITIVE, UH, ADDITION AND RESTORATION.
UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ME AND HOPEFULLY YOU, YOU MAY SEE IT THE SAME AND SINCE WE INITIATE IT, IT'S NOT, UM, THERE'S NO APPLICATION FEE.
UM, BUT THAT SHOULDN'T BE A FACTOR, RIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO CALL THE VOTE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF INITIATING HISTORIC ZONING AND, AND ASKING, UM, RECOMMENDING THAT THE APPLICANTS ATTEND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, PLEASE.
IS THAT PART OF THE MOTION? OKAY.
THE MOTION PASSES, UH, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.
I DIDN'T SEE YOU RAISE YOUR HAND ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
UM, DO WE HAVE, UH, DID WE EVER GET A RESPONSE FROM LEGAL? YES, WE DID.
UH, A, A MAJORITY DOES REQUIRE SIX IN ORDER TO PASS.
I SHOULD, I SHOULD HAVE JUST GONE WITH THAT.
UM, WE WILL NEED A MOTION TO RECONSIDER FIRST AND THEN WE WILL NEED A, UM, TO TAKE UP A NEW MOTION AND TRY TO GET A MAJORITY VOTE ON THAT.
WHAT WAS THE, WHAT'S THE ITEM NUMBER AGAIN? IT'S ITEM NUMBER D SEVEN 2040 EAST CESAR CHAVEZ.
UM, SO WE NEED TO HAVE SIX VOTES.
CAN THIS BE TABLED? WE DID TABLE IT, BUT WE NEED A MOTION TO RECONSIDER.
I GUESS WE CAN, WOULD WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND THEN MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE IT OR TABLE IT FURTHER? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
WE WOULD FIRST NEED A MOTION TO RECONSIDER A MOTION TO RECONSIDER, UM, GENERALLY NEEDS TO BE MADE BY THE PREVAILING SIDE.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE A PREVAILING SIDE HERE, SO I THINK IT WOULD NEED TO BE MADE BY THOSE WHO VOTED IN THE MINORITY AGAINST THE MOTION.
WELL, THERE WERE FOUR OF US VOTED AGAINST WITH SOME WOULD ONE OF YOU, UM, LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER KELLY? LITTLE, DO I HEAR A SECOND? OKAY.
SUELA ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECONSIDERING.
THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
NOW WE HAVE THE ISSUE BACK BEFORE US.
UM, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? DOES ANYONE HAVE A COMPROMISE MOTION? WOULD WE LIKE TO PROPOSE
I MOVE THAT WE POSTPONE UNTIL THE NEXT LANDMARK COMMISSION.
MAYBE COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON HAS SECONDED THAT MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS TILL THE NEXT MEETING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
IT PASSES, WE POSTPONED IT KIND OF KICKED IT DOWN THE ROAD HERE TO THE NEXT MEETING.
THOSE WERE ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR CASES.
UM, THE DISCUSSION IN PUBLIC ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR TAX ABATEMENT THAT PASSED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO NOW WE'RE AT ITEM FOUR COMMISSION AND
[4.A. Discussion and Possible Action on Committee Reports]
STAFF ITEMS. UM, DO WE HAVE A, UH, REPORT FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE? UM, BETH OR KEVIN, CAN SOMEBODY, ONE OF YOU RECAP?[04:20:02]
I, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE FROM OUR MEETING.I HOPE EVERYONE GOT TO SEE THE MALL FRAY PROPERTY.
THE OWNERS WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND STARTED FROM SCRATCH AND CAME UP WITH, I THINK I REALLY INNOVATIVE AND GREAT DESIGN TO KEEP THE EXISTING HOUSE COMPLETELY INTACT WHILE ADDING EVERYTHING THEY NEEDED, UH, AS, AS A REALLY INNOVATIVE ADDITION.
AND, UH, THAT WAS ONE, ONE CASE THAT MADE ME VERY HAPPY.
THIS IS A GOOD USE OF THE, OF THE COMMITTEE WHEN WE CAN, WHEN WE CAN KIND OF HAMMER THINGS OUT AND COME TO A GOOD COMPROMISE.
SO, UM, THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, I DON'T THINK AS NET, THE GRANTS COMMITTEE, UM, HAS THE GRANTS COMMITTEE, THAT PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE MET, AND WE HA WE NEED A MOTION.
UH, WE DISCUSSED A RECOMMENDATION FOR COMMISSION ACTION FROM APRIL 24, FROM THAT APRIL 21ST, 2021 MEETING THAT WE JUST HAD TO CREATE THE PRESERVATION PLAN WORKING GROUP AND DELEGATE MEMBER RECRUITMENT TO THE COMMITTEE AND STAFF RETURNING TO THE COMMISSION FOR A FORMAL APPOINTMENT ON JUNE 28TH.
UM, BETH, COULD YOU RECAP THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE, WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? UH, SO B AND I'M SURE KARA CAN, CAN ADD TO THIS.
UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS RECEIVED A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT GRANT TO CREATE A EQUITY-BASED PRESERVATION PLAN.
AND SO WE ARE IN THE INITIAL STAGES OF, UM, KIND OF OUTLINING WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FIRST STEP IS WHAT, UH, CHAIR MEYERS HAS OUTLINED IN, IN FORMING THE WORKING GROUP AND STARTING TO TAKE APPLICATIONS, UM, THAT WE WILL SOLICIT FROM OUR, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, AND OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY COME BACK TO YOU IN JUNE WITH A WORKING GROUP FOR OUR GROUP.
WELL, WE, WE, UM, IN LOOKING AT, UH, UH, GREATER EQUITY IN THE PRESERVATION PROGRAM, UH, WE STARTED LISTING, UM, STAKEHOLDERS, POTENTIAL STAKEHOLDERS, UH, TO SERVE ON THIS COMMITTEE.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, A WORKING GROUP OF ABOUT 30 MEMBERS.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE FROM THE COMMISSION TONIGHT IS A RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO CREATE THIS, UH, PRESERVATION PLAN WORKING GROUP FOR THE PURPOSES THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED AND DELEGATE, UM, RECRUITMENT TO THE COMMITTEE AND STAFF.
DO I HEAR A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT WHO MOVED? THAT WAS THAT YOU COMMISSIONER LAROCHE? YES.
DO I HEAR A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WRIGHT? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SUCH A RECOMMENDATION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[4.B. Officer Elections]
NEXT ITEM B.WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO TAKE THIS JOB FROM ME? IF NOT, I WOULD STAND FOR REELECTION, BUT SOME, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIRMAN OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION? NO.
AND JUST IN CASE IT'S NECESSARY, I MOVED TO NOMINATE TERRY MYERS TO CONTINUE IN HER POSITION.
I THINK SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER LAROCHE WHO DOESN'T KNOW ME VERY WELL, BUT OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR JERRY MYERS TO CONTINUE IN THIS POSITION.
UM, ANY OTHER CANDIDATES OF, SHALL WE TAKE A VOTE? I JUST WANT TO SAY FOR THE LACK OF, I DO KNOW YOU, I WAS ON PRESERVATION, TEXAS, SO I DO HAVE A BIT OF A HIT.
WERE YOU AT THAT CEREMONY? UNFORTUNATELY, A PHOTOGRAPH OF ME DRINKING WINE HAS BEEN CIRCULATING ON THE INTERNET FOR YEARS EVER SINCE THAT AWARD.
UM, BUT I THINK I WEIGHED 10 POUNDS LESS, SO IT'S OKAY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR ME, UH, COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER, BUT I THINK EVERYONE DID.
UM, DO WE HAVE A NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR,
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COMMISSIONER COOK? I MOVED TO NOMINATE BEN.WE'VE GOT, I'M GOING TO TAKE FEATHERSTON SECOND, YOU KNOW, IN MY GENERATION, THAT WAS JUST A PEACE SIGN, BUT YEAH, THE EMOTION AND PEACE OUT.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO CONTINUE COMMISSIONER HIND, SETH IN HIS POSITION AS VICE CHAIR.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
COMMISSIONER HEINZ SOUTH WILL REMAIN.
AND THE LAST ITEM IS SEE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. CAN ANYONE LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND SEE WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE ON OUR AGENDA NEXT TIME? OKAY.
THEN THANK YOU ALL FOR BEARING WITH ME TONIGHT.
I HAD DOG EMERGENCIES, UM, AND AIR CONDITIONING MALFUNCTIONS, BUT, UM, WE MADE IT THROUGH AND KIM, I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
HEY, WE GET WE'RE ONE MINUTE AHEAD OF TIME HERE.
WELL, AHEAD OF THE, YOU KNOW, EXTENSION TIME, I THINK I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT AS A MOTION COMMISSIONER.
TELL THAT A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
CAN I HEAR A SECOND, SECOND FROM MCWHORTER? WE'LL TAKE COMMISSIONER ORDERS.