[Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order]
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UM, WE'LL JUST DO A ROLL CALL.
JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND, UM, SAY HERE OR PRESENT, UH, AS WE GO AROUND THE ROOM, I'LL JUST, UH, LET'S SEE.
WE'LL START WITH THE COMMISSIONER IS OUR, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES, UH, VICE CHAIR.
HEMPEL, UH, COMMISSIONER OF MITCH TODDLER.
UM, AND LET'S SEE, I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, UH, COMMISSIONER SHEA.
UH, AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON AND THEN THE OTHERS.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE HERE YET.
UH, WELL, DO I GET COMMISSIONER COX? I CALL YOU.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONER, HOWARD'S BEEN AROUND.
I HAVE THESE, UH, SO COMMISSIONER HOWARD, UH, YOU'RE HERE.
SO THE OTHER ONES WERE THE RED ONES.
I HAVE IT ALTERNATING COLORS SO I COULD DIFFERENTIATE THEM, BUT IT STILL DIDN'T HELP.
UH, AND I'M HERE, UH, CHAIR SHAW.
I WANT TO ANNOUNCE WE HAVE A R A I S D EX OFFICIO.
UH, ART BASED THING IS HERE THIS EVENING.
AND, UM, I'M GOING TO JUST SO NOT YOU, UH, IF YOU WANT THE TIME TO SAY A FEW WORDS, UH, UM, THESE REALLY AREN'T WORKING, SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM OFF.
MY NAME'S, ARTHIE SAYING I'M ONE OF THE AT-LARGE TRUSTEES FOR AUSTIN ISD.
I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE BOARD SECRETARY.
UM, I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE, UM, THE BOARD REPRESENTATIVE.
THIS WAS MY TOP CHOICE, UH, FOR, UH, FOR MY COMMITTEE SERVICE.
SO I'M REALLY PLEASED TO BE HERE.
I'VE ALREADY HAD THE PLEASURE OF CHATTING WITH TODD AND WITH, UM, OF HIS AS WELL, UM, TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE WORK YOU'RE DOING, AND I'M HAPPY TO BE A RESOURCE AND SUPPORT OF THE WORK OF THIS WONDERFUL GROUP.
SO THANK YOU FOR, UM, FOR HAVING ME PART, BE PART OF THIS COMMISSION.
AND I SEE, UH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER AND POLITO IS JOINED US.
THAT'S FOR THE TECH CHALLENGES.
I MIGHT ALSO RECOGNIZE, UH, COMMISSIONER DON LAYTON BURWELL.
SO I AM TOLD YOU ARE NEARING THE END OF YOUR SERVICE AS SOON AS WE CAN FIND A REPLACEMENT.
IS THAT TRUE? THAT IS CORRECT.
I'M, UH, I'VE RESIGNED FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
UH, SO I'LL BE FULFILLING MY LAST, UM, ROLE AS CHAIRMAN AT THE MAIN MEETING.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL FIND A REPLACEMENT FOR ME YET.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO, I'M NOT SURE.
I WANT TO SAY, UM, THERE'S, THIS WILL BE SOME VERY LARGE SHOES TO FILL BECAUSE YOU HAVE OFTEN, UH, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTED WITH YOUR, IS THE EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE YOU HAVE AND BROUGHT A LOT OF ISSUES TO THIS GROUP THAT HAVE BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL.
SO, UH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, IN, I DON'T KNOW FOR, UH, IN THE EVENT, WE DON'T, I HOPE YOU, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO BE BACK IN MAY, BUT, UM, IF, IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING JUST IN THE EVENT, WE DON'T SEE YOU AGAIN.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US? NO, UH, I, I TH THIS PROBABLY WILL BE MY LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND, AND I JUST THANK EVERYBODY FOR LETTING ME SIT IN, UH, THESE, UH, MANY MONTHS NOW, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL SERVICE AND IT WAS A PLEASURE TO SERVE WITH YOU.
WELL, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, UH, AND LET'S, UM, GO AHEAD, UH, AND MOVE IN TO, UH, COMMISSIONERS, JUST A FEW ITEMS, UM, HAVE YOUR RED, GREEN, AND YELLOW ITEMS JUST FOR VOTING.
UM, REMAIN MUTED, UH, WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING AND RAISE YOUR HAND TO BE RECOGNIZED.
UH, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE, SO IF I DO NOT SEE YOUR HAND, GO UP, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE AND LET ME KNOW.
CAUSE IT'S, UH, WE, UH, WE'RE, UH, WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY HERE NOW.
WE'RE NO VACANCIES, SO IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO SEE
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YOU RAISE YOUR HAND.UM, SO FOR THE PARTICIPANTS OUT THERE, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE AND, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, TODAY, UH, IF YOUR ITEM IS, FOR SOME REASON PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMAIN ON THE LINE.
YOU'LL RECEIVE AN EMAIL WHEN WE'RE ABOUT 15 MINUTES OUT FROM T TAKING UP YOUR ITEM.
UH, AGAIN, I'LL TRY TO WALK THROUGH THE STEPS WE TAKE, UH, BOTH FOR ME AND OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS.
UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, GOT ONE, I THINK, ONE DISCUSSION CASE TODAY, BUT WE DO HAVE WANT TO CONSIDER SOME THINGS ON THE POSTPONEMENT TIME PERIOD ON, UH, OUR CASES B 12 THREE, B 14, THAT WE'LL BE TAKING A LOOK AT.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WE'LL START,
[Reading of Agenda]
UM, LOOKING AT THE CONSENT AGENDA AND LET'S SEE, WE'VE GOT, UM, FIRST OF ALL, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE CHANGES TO, UH, THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 13TH? I SEE NONE.SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THOSE MINUTES UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA AND UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, I'M GOING TO READ THESE OFF.
UM, WE HAVE B ONE IS A REZONING.
IT'S A CASE NUMBER C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO EIGHT, NINE 12.
AND SPRINGDALE RESIDENTS SAYS, UH, THIS IS, UH, APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 25TH.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS CONDUCTING A GROUND TENANT TRAY, UH, PENETRATION RADAR SURVEY AT THE SITE.
UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE POSTPONEMENT.
UH, I DON'T NEED TO, AS A PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, ORDINARILY WE WOULD TAKE THAT UP WITH THE REZONING, UH, BUT, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, B2 MTA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE SIX ZERO FOUR DASH SEVEN 12, UH, OH SEVEN, 12 AND SEVEN 14 PETRONELLA STREET AND 2,409 COORDINATOR STREET.
UH, THIS IS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT UNTIL MAY 11TH.
IT'S A FIRST REQUEST AND, UM, UH, APPLICANT IS IN AGREEMENT.
AND THEN SIMILARLY THE THREE AS THE REZONING, UH, C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO ONE ONE SEVEN 12 AND SEVEN 14 PETRONELLIS STREET AND 2,409 CORONADO STREET.
THIS IS NEIGHBORHOOD POSTS UNTIL MAY 11TH.
UH, IT'S THE FIRST REQUEST RECOMMENDATION.
OH, THIS IS ACTUALLY, UH, APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A STEP THREE NPA TO CSM UNP.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDING LRM UNP, UH, MOVING ON TO, UM, OUR CONSENT ITEM BEFORE, AND WE WILL HAVE, UH, SOMEBODY JUST SEEKING TO DECIDE THEM, UM, BRIEFLY, UM, IN A MOMENT, UH, IT'S, UH, ITEM C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO THREE ZERO EIGHT.
LEFT HOTEL IS ON CONSENT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, L I P D A N P TO L I P D A N T TO CHANGE A CONDITION OF ZONING.
UM, ITEM B FIVE IS ON CONSENT.
THIS IS, UH, REZONINGS CASE NUMBER C 14 2021 DASH ZERO ZERO TWO ACTON SITE.
AND IT IS, UM, ERC CMU TO ERC CMU TO PROVIDE ELIGIBILITY FOR DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.
THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND ON CONSENT WE HAVE, UH, ITEM B SIX REZONING CASE NUMBER C EIGHT ONE FOUR DASH 2020 ZERO ONE THREE TWO CENTRAL HEALTH PUD.
UH, THIS IS POSTPONED STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 11TH.
IT'S THE FIRST REQUEST, UM, CITY OF AUSTIN HOUSING, UH, PLANNING, UH, IT'S GOING FROM P TO P U D.
RIGHT? UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS, WILL BE HEARD ON MAY 11TH.
WE HAVE ITEM B IS SEVEN, UH, WHICH IS A HERITAGE TREE CASE TP ONE EIGHT TWO TWO FOUR ONE AT WINCHESTER 10 FIELD BILL, UM, AND THE STAFF, UH, HIS REQUESTS ARE POSTPONED UNTIL MAY 11TH.
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REQUEST.ADDITIONAL TIME IS NEEDED TO DETERMINE HEALTH OF THE TREES AND APPROPRIATE VARIANCE PROCESS.
WE HAVE EITHER BA, WHICH IS ON CONSENT.
UM, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAN CASE NUMBER C H J.
THAT IS 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ONE THREE WEST BELLA FOR TUNA.
AND THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
UH, LET'S SEE, MOVING ON TO B NINE, THIS IS A FINAL PLAT WITH VARIANTS, UH, CASE NUMBER CA 2020 DASH ZERO ONE SIX ZERO.ZERO, A SAND BEACH OVERLOOK SUBDIVISION.
UH, THIS IS A DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS, UH, PER THE EXHIBIT C OF THE STAFF REPORT.
AND, UH, THIS WAS CASES FOR APPROVAL OF ONE LOT SUBDIVISION ON 0.9, FOUR SEVEN ACRES, UH, WITH A VARIANCE FROM LDC 25 DASH FOUR THAT'S ONE 71, UH, ROUGE REQUIRES EACH LOT IN A SUBDIVISION TWO A, BUT A DEDICATED PUBLIC STREET.
AGAIN, THIS IS DISAPPROVED FOR REASONS.
WE HAVE ITEM B B 10, WHICH IS FINAL PLAT CASE NUMBER CA 2020.
I'M GETTING SOME FEEDBACK NOW.
UH, THE CA 2020 ZERO ZERO TWO ONE.
UM, I GUESS GO AHEAD AND MUTE FOLKS.
SO I'M GETTING SOME FEEDBACK THAT JUST STARTED, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON.
UH, THIS IS ITEM B 10 CASE NUMBER CA 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO TWO ONE.ZERO EIGHT FOUR TO BRANCH CREEK SUBDIVISION.
THIS IS FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF EIGHT LOT SUBDIVISION ON 2.9 ACRES.
UH, THIS IS DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS AND AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C OF THE STAFF REPORT AND MOVING ON TO B 11, WHICH IS A PART APPEAL CASE NUMBER SP 2019 ZERO SIX ZERO ZERO C WILDER.
THIS IS OUR DISCUSSION IT DISCUSSION CASE FOR THIS EVENING, AND IT'S A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO UPHOLD THE DIRECTOR'S DECISION.
SO NOW WE MOVE TO, UH, ITEMS B 12, I'LL START WITH, UH, B12 THREE, B 14, UH, B12 IS A PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, UPWARD FOR DISCUSSION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER WE, UM, UH, IN A SECOND, UH, URP FOR EAST 11TH AND 12TH STREET, URBAN RENEWAL AREA MODIFICATION, NUMBER 12.
AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ON THIS ITEM AND B 13 AND B 14, UM, I'M GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE, UH, GO AHEAD AND POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE MEETING AFTER NEXT, AND HAVE STAFF PROVIDE A BRIEFING ON THIS ITEM, IN ADDITION TO THE ZONING CASES THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT SHORTLY, UH, BUT HAVE STAFF COME BACK ON MAY 11TH, UM, TO, UM, TO GIVE US A BRIEFING.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THAT UP RIGHT AFTER, UM, THIS ITEM, BUT FOR NOW ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, IT'S, UH, SHOWN AS A DISCUSSION ITEM.
SIMILARLY FOR B 13, THE REZONING CASE C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO 33 EAST 11TH STREET, NCCD AMENDMENT.
UM, THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND I'LL JUST SAY THE ERB RECOMMENDATIONS DO DIFFER FROM THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, ITEM D 14, REZONING C 14 2021 DASH ZERO ZERO 37 EAST WALL STREET, NCCD AMENDMENT, UH, RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.
BUT AGAIN, YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS DIFFER FROM THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
SO, UM, DO I HAVE ANY, UM, COMMISSIONERS THAT NEED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FOR ANY OF THESE ITEMS? ALL RIGHT.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY HANDS, UH, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE ON CONSENT OR DISCUSSION, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY? UM, I DON'T WANT TO PULL ANYTHING.
I JUST, I WAS HOPING TO GET JUST A CLARIFICATION OF WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR ITEMS A, B 12, 13, AND 14.
WE'RE GOING, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS Q AND A ABOUT THOSE ITEMS OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO ENTIRELY PUT THEM OFF? I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT WE'LL DO IS THEY'RE ON DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW
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ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT THE NEXT SIDE, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER TO PUT A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT NEXT ON THOSE THREE ITEMS. UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THROUGH WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ONE.UM, SO I HAVE, I KNOW AN ITEM I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND IF WE HAVE, UM, MR. C AS, BEFORE I BELIEVE I'M GOING TO NEED HELP HERE.
I THINK IT WAS, WAS IT MR. CANTU THAT WANTED TO SPEAK TO ITEM D FOR CORRECT? UH, ARE YOU AVAILABLE MR. CANTU? NO, MARIO CAN TO STAR SIX TO UNMUTE IF YOU'RE OUT THERE.
ANDREW, DO WE HAVE MR. KENTU AVAILABLE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LIAISON.
WE'LL JUST SELECT STAR SIX AND PROCEED.
WELL THOUGHT IT'S JENNIFER MUCH TALLER WHILE WE'RE WAITING.
IF WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, UM, DO WE PULL THOSE FOR DISCUSSION? IS THAT HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK? YES.
IF YOU, UM, HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT THAT YOU FEEL IN YOU NEED, DO YOU WANT ANSWERS TO, I MEAN, SOMETIMES WE'LL ENTERTAIN BRIEF INQUIRIES DURING THOSE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT IF IT GETS TOO DETAILED, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PULL IT.
SO DO YOU HAVE A, UM, UH, DO YOU HAVE A QUICK CLARIFICATION OR QUESTION THAT I AGED OUT AND I, I DIDN'T, UM, I DON'T THINK WE HIT THE CUTOFF TIMING ON THE SAND.
I THINK IT WAS THE SAND BEACH.
I CAN PULL UP THAT CASE ON THAT.
I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT WHEN THAT WAS THE, UM, LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE THE RIGHT ONE THERE, IT WAS B NINE, JUST CHECKING IT TO MAKE SURE I HAD THE RIGHT ONE.
YEAH, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE.
I WAS CONFUSED ON IT BECAUSE THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THERE AT FIRST, I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE AN SF ONE, BUT I GUESS IT'S COMMERCIAL AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE A WAY TO GET TO A PUBLIC STREET DIRECTLY FROM THAT PROPERTY.
SO WE, WE WERE HAVING SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND THOUGHT THAT MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION.
SO, UM, I GUESS COMMISSIONERS, THIS ONE IS DISAPPROVED FOR REASONS.
SO WE TYPICALLY DON'T HEAR THOSE CASES, UH, IN AND HELPED ME OUT HERE.
IF ANY COMMISSIONERS THERE'S MORE WORK ON THE APPLICANT THAT I THINK THEY NEED TO DO FOR THIS TO COME BACK IS I UNDERSTAND.
SO, UH, WE PROBABLY MAY HEAR THIS AGAIN, BUT IT, I GUESS THEY NEED TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS THAT STAFF HAS LAID OUT IN THEIR EXHIBIT C REPORT.
AND THEN WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE, UH, MARIO KID TOO AVAILABLE? I'M NOT ANDREW.
IF WE'RE GOING TO GO ON AND MOVE ON IT, LET'S SEE.
TELL ME, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THEM ON BOARD.
MR. ROMERO, CHAIR COMMISSION LIAISON ON RIVER.
SO I DO HAVE HIM ON THE LINE, MR. CONTOUR, IF IT'S AN EERIE SILENCE OUT THERE, LIKE I LOST MY LIFELINE.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO AND, UH, LET ME JUST REPEAT THE ITEMS WE HAVE ON CONSENT.
UH, JUST RUN THROUGH THIS AGAIN.
UH, WE HAVE ITEMS, UH, WE HAVE THE MINUTES, APRIL 30TH MINUTES.
WE HAVE, UH, ITEMS B ONE AND B, UH, B ONE WILL BE DELAYED TILL POSTPONE UNTIL MAY 25TH.
WE HAVE THE TWO POSTPONE UNTIL MAY 11TH, 83 POSTPONED TO MAY 11TH.
WE HAVE ITEMS BEFORE, UH, ON CONSENT, B FIVE ON CONSENT.
WE HAVE ITEM B SIX, UH, STAFF RESPONDED TO MAY 11TH.
UH, WE HAVE SEVEN STAFF POSTPONEMENT UNTIL MAY 11TH.
UH, WE HAVE B EIGHT, WHICH IS ON CONSENT AND BENIGN DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS TO BE 10 DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS, WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE 11 AND WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEMS, B12 THREE D
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13 OF THE 14, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE IN JUST AFTER WE, UH, GO AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, APPROVED THE MINUTES AND THE CONSENT? YES.
OKAY, GO AHEAD, MR. CANTU, UH, STAR SIX.
UM, MR. CANTU, IF YOU'LL I SEE YOU JUST MUTED YOURS, IF YOU'LL CALL REBECCA, I HEAR YOU.
UH, WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON, WE'RE WAITING ON THIS.
UM, JUST FOLLOWING UP ON COMMISSIONER, MOST
SO DISAPPROVAL FOR REASON MEANS IT'S MORE OF LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, THING WITH STAFF.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXHIBIT C THERE'S, A STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE CASE AND DEAN, UH, AND HAS NOT APPROVED IT YET FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT, UM, MS. ROSE IS, IS, UH, MRS. WINDY ROAD, SARAH.
CAUSE CAN YOU CLARIFY IT? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS ACCURATE ITEM BEFORE.
OH, WHEN WE SEE ITEMS, UH, UM, NO.
WHEN WE SEE, UH, DISAPPROVED FOR REASONS, WHEN YOU, UH, THAT IS A STAFF DETERMINATION, THAT THE ITEM IS NOT, IS NOT SATISFIED THE STAFF, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS
I HAVE SUBDIVISION STAFF TO PROVIDE A REQUEST OR A RESPONSE.
I SUPERVISED THE SUBDIVISION REVIEW GROUP.
UM, I GUESS YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS NAMES.
UH, IF YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMISSION, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
UH, SO THE COMMISSION HAS THREE OPTIONS FOR ACTION ON A SUBDIVISION APPLICATION.
FIRST IS APPROVED AS SUBMITTED, WHICH MEANS THERE IS NOTHING LEFT FOR THE APPLICANT TO DO THE APP.
THE PLAT IS IN PERFECT CONDITION.
THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND START THE RECORDING PROCESS.
THE SECOND OPTION IS TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS THAT'S UNUSUAL.
BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IT'S, THE APPLICATION HAS REACHED A POINT IN THE REVIEW PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE THE ONLY THINGS LEFT TO DO OR SOMETHING THAT IS VERY ADMINISTRATIVE WITHOUT ANY DISCRETION.
THAT MEANS SOMETHING LIKE YOU NEED TO RECORD AN EASEMENT, OR YOU NEED TO PAY A FEE.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT YOU NEED TO DO TO THE PLAT.
THE THIRD OPTION IS DISAPPROVED FOR REASONS AND THAT'S EVERYTHING ELSE.
THAT'S THE MOST COMMON THING YOU WILL SEE.
IT MEANS THAT BETH HAS REVIEWED THIS, AND THERE ARE STILL SOME ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
UM, THERE COULD BE ISSUES THAT THEY NEED TO CHANGE SOME PLAT NOTES, MAYBE THERE'S, UM, SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES.
THEY NEED TO UPDATE THEIR DRAINAGE PLAN.
UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME MORE REVIEW ITEMS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED BY ONE OR MORE REVIEWERS.
UH, IF YOU DISAPPROVE A PLAT FOR REASONS, THAT MEANS THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT AN UPDATE TO ADDRESS THOSE REASONS.
AND YOU WILL HEAR IT AGAIN AT ANOTHER HEARING.
DID THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? ARE THERE ANY MORE, DO YOU NEED SOME MORE CLARIFICATION ON THAT? AH, I SEE COMMISSIONER SHAY HAS A QUICK QUESTION THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.
SO COMMISSIONER, UM, UH, CHERISH ALL, IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION.
IT'S MORE OF A CLARIFICATION, I THINK, JUST SO THE COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTAND IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR IT FROM STAFF, BUT ON THE APPLICANTS SIDE, BASICALLY WHEN WE SUBMIT A SITE PLAN, WE SUBMIT PRELIMINARY PLAN.
ALL THAT STUFF GIVES IT, GOES INTO THE CITY AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH IT.
THEN THERE'S COMMENTS THAT GO BACK FROM
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THE, UH, FROM THE REVIEWERS THAT GO BACK TO THE DIFFERENT PARTIES FROM THE ENGINEERS TO DEVELOPERS AND THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS ALL THOSE COMMENTS.SO THE THING IS BECAUSE OF TIMING, THERE'S A TIMELINE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT BACK, UM, IN ORDER TO REVIEW THINGS BACK AND FORTH.
AND OFTENTIMES, UH, BY LIKE WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE, WHEN THEY SUBMIT SOMETHING TO CITY THAT WE HAVE TO ACT ON IT WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIMEFRAME, THAT TIMEFRAME MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH TIME FOR EVERYBODY TO WORK THROUGH ALL THIS.
THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPERS.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IN FRONT OF US.
WE HAVE TO ACT ON THIS, EVEN IF IT'S TO DENY IT AT THIS POINT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO THIS CAN CONTINUE ON THROUGH THE NEGOTIATIONS.
BASICALLY THEY'RE NOT DONE YET, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON SOMETHING AND THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE.
SO WHEN WE SAY, OKAY, UM, YOU KNOW, DISAPPROVAL OR CONDITIONS, THEN IT JUST KEEPS GOING ON UNTIL THEY'RE READY UNTIL ALL THE COMMENTS ARE CLEARED AND IT COMES TO US.
SO I THINK WE HAVE MR. KENTU ON, WE'VE MANAGED TO, UH, GET A LOT DONE HERE NOW.
GOOD DISCUSSION WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON MR. CANNON TO, UH, PC, UH, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME COMMISSIONERS? YES.
UH, SWEAR TO GIVE A QUICK INSIGHT TO THE APPLICANT, MR. HOFFMAN, THAT WE WORK WITH HER ON THE MISS ALOFT HOTEL, BEFORE WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO HER.
AND IT WAS GOOD WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT AND, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THEY GET THE ZONING THEY NEED FOR THIS PARTICULAR HOTEL.
[Consent Agenda]
UH, WHERE WE WERE IS I WAS LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.UH, AND I HEAR A, UH, I HEAR A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, UH, VICE CHAIR, HEMPHILL, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ZAR AND GO AND VOTE, UH, CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, PER THE MINUTES AND THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WE'VE GOT 12 AND THAT'S THE NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS I HAVE COUNTED FOR THIS EVENING.
[Items B12. - B14. (Part 1 of 2)]
ALRIGHT.SO THE NEXT SIDE AND WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IS, UM, WHAT TO DO, UH, WHETHER OR NOT TO POSTPONE OR HERE ITEMS B 12, B 13 AND B 14.
WE HAVE THE OPTION TO, UH, HEAR THOSE IN TANDEM.
UH, STAFF CAN MAKE A PRESENTATION OR STAFF IS THE APPLICANT.
SO THEY WOULD BE GIVEN, UH, SIX MINUTES AS THE APPLICANT.
UH, THEY WOULD BE GIVEN ANOTHER THREE CAUSE THEY HAVE A SECOND SPEAKER AND THEN WE COULD GIVE THEM THE THREE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
SO IT ROUNDS OUT TO ABOUT 12 MINUTES.
BUT, UH, IN MY MIND, UH, AFTER READING THESE CASES, UH, I THINK WE NEED MORE TIME, UH, TO PERHAPS CREATE SOME AMENDMENTS AND THINK ABOUT, UH, THESE CASES IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
AND SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS, AND, UH, THE WORK FROM STAFF IS THAT THEY'RE, UM, THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS IS TO HAVE A PRESENTATION TO US ON MAY 11TH, UH, ON THESE THREE ITEMS. AND THEN WE WOULD HEAR IT, UH, LIKELY WE WOULD HEAR THE, HOW THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, UH, MAY 25TH.
AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TIME TO DEVELOP AMENDMENTS KIND OF IN BETWEEN THOSE TIMES.
AND, UM, SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME GETTING FAMILIAR WITH THESE, UH, THREE ITEMS. UM, SO IF THAT'S AMENABLE TO YOU, UH, OR WE COULD DISCUSS OTHER OPTIONS.
UH, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO TALK ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS? SO WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT FOR THESE CASES, UH, COMMISSIONER COPPS.
I, THE OTHER QUESTION IS THE, IS THE POSTPONEMENT FOR THE PRESENTATION SIMPLY BECAUSE THE STAFF, UM, DOESN'T HAVE THAT PRESENTATION READY YET? NO, IT'S AFTER, UM, I DID SPEAK WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER ZAR, I THINK, AND I TALKED ABOUT IT AND THERE'S JUST, UM, TO REALLY, I THINK FOR US TO REVIEW THESE AND LOOK, COME UP WITH SOME MEANINGFUL AMENDMENTS, WHICH I THINK, UM, I DO WANT TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH IT, EVEN IF WE HAD THE PRESS, WE COULD HAVE THEM PRESENT TONIGHT AND POSTPONE IS THE OTHER OPTION THAT COULD USE THAT TIME TO, UH, GO AHEAD AND 12 MINUTES, WE COULD GET THE PRISON, YOU KNOW, HEAR THEM AS THE
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APPLICANT, UH, AND THEN POSTPONE IT AND HEAR IT LATER.BUT IN TALKING WITH STAFF, THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF JUST MAKING A PRESENTATION ON MAY 11TH, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS IT TODAY.
BUT STAFF IS PREPARED IF WE WANT THEM TO, UH, DISCUSS THE, THESE ITEMS. THEY CAN IN OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH DOTS ON COMMISSIONER MITCH DOLLAR, IF, IF STAFF HAS PREPARED TO DISCUSS, CAUSE I LOOKED AT THOSE AND I AGREE THERE'S A LOT THERE AND WE NEED MORE TO MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, GOOD GUIDANCE ON THIS.
UM, BUT IF THEY'RE PREPARED TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT, I, I MIGHT BE IN FAVOR OF HAVING HEARING SOME AND POSTPONING.
SO AT LEAST WE GET TO BEGIN TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT, UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND MAYBE GET SOME MORE EDUCATED FEEDBACK TO THEM FOR THE FOLLOWUP.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT, THAT HEARING, UH, STAFF PRESENT AS THE APPLICANT PROCEEDING? UH, MR. CONLEY? WELL, COMMISSIONER SHAVE FIRST AND THEN GO AHEAD.
SO I DON'T, I ACTUALLY WAS THINKING, YEAH, WE COULD JUST POSTPONE IT ALL, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD AND HOW IT WORKS WITH THE NCCD.
IT IS, IT IS VERY COMPLICATED.
IT'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, MANY, MANY DIFFERENT ITERATIONS.
AND EVEN IF THE STAFF WERE TO AT LEAST GIVE THE NEW COMMISSIONERS, UM, AN OVERVIEW ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS A COMPLEX OVERLAY OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND THIS WAY, AS THE WEEKS GO BY, THEN WE CAN BE THINKING ABOUT HOW ALL THIS STUFF CAN BE SOMEHOW BE RE MANAGED.
UM, BUT I THINK THE IDEA WOULD BE WE, OH, WE CAN OPEN IT FOR, UH, STAFF TO GIVE US A, UM, YOU KNOW, A PRESENTATION AND WE JUST LEAVE, YOU KNOW, W W WE DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT POINT.
I THINK I KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S JUST BEEN HITTING US FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT SIDES, EVEN FROM SMALL AREA PLANNING, BUT, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF NEW COMMISSIONERS AND THIS IS VERY UNIQUE IN THE CITY, HOW THIS IS SET UP RIGHT NOW.
UM, COMMISSIONER IS OUR, I'M SORRY, I'M JUST AHEAD OF QUESTION.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF WE GO AHEAD WITH A STAFF PRESENTATION TO DO WHAT THAT MEAN, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO DO YOU ANY AT A LATER DATE OR WOULD EXHAUSTED OR OPPORTUNITY FOR A Q AND A TODAY? I'M SORRY.
COMMISSIONER IT'S ARMS APOLOGIZE.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE GO AHEAD WITH A STAFF TODAY, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE QA SESSION AT A LATER DATE.
IS THAT, AM I UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY? UM, YEAH, I THINK WE CAN JUST HEAR THE STAFF NOW BE CLEAR AND STAFF WOULD BE SPEAKING AS THE APPLICANT ON THIS MATTER.
IT WOULDN'T BE A FORMAL PRESENTATION, SO WE WOULD BE CONSTRAINING THEM TO A CERTAIN TIME PERIODS UNLESS WE WANTED TO HEAR EACH ITEM SEPARATELY, BUT THEN WE WOULD BE HERE FOR AWHILE, YOU KNOW, IF WE, UM, OKAY.
SO, UH, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS A, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND STATE THE MOTION ON THE POST, WHETHER TO POSTPONE OR NOT, WHEN I'M HEARING IS A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND HEAR, UM, THE ITEM STAFF, LET STAFF PRESENT ON THE ITEMS, THE SEASONING, AND THEN WE WILL POSTPONE, UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, Q AND A AND ACTION FOR A LATER DATE.
CAUSE I THINK MAY 11TH IS GOING TO BE A PRETTY BUSY AGENDA.
WE ASSEMBLE A LIST OF QUESTIONS TODAY THAT WE ARE DIRECTING STAFF TO, UM, ASKING STAFF TO COME BACK TO US WITH ANSWERS ON, UM, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS MIGHT BE THINGS THAT TAKE STAFF A LITTLE WHILE TO DO THEIR HOMEWORK ON.
UM, I BELIEVE WE CAN, UH, HEAR FROM THEM AND PUT TOGETHER QUESTIONS AND HAVE THAT COME BACK TO US.
UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE HEAR THIS AGAIN, UH, BUT ONE THING I, THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING A PRESENTATION, I'LL JUST SAY THIS IT'S, YOU'LL GET TO HEAR FROM THEM IN THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, AND THEN WE GET STAFF WILL COME BACK AS THE APPLICANT AND THEY CAN REFRESH US ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAD HEARD AND MAYBE ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS WE HAD AS THE APPLICANT.
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AND THEN WE MOVE INTO ADDITIONAL Q AND A AGAIN AND THEN GET TO TAKE ACTION.SO IT ALLOWS US FOR FURTHER, UM, KIND OF EXPOSURE AND PRESENTATION TO THE SIDE.
UM, IF WE HEAR IT TONIGHT, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE JUST GOING TO MISS OUT ON THAT OPPORTUNITY FROM STAFF TO GIVE A PRESENTATION.
THAT ALL SOUNDS PERFECT TO ME.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE, OR I HAVE MIGHT NOT BE QUESTIONS THAT STAFF CAN ANSWER US ON THE SPOT.
UM, SO, UM, WE MIGHT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS ARE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, AND I'M GOING TO PUT FORTH THE MOTION.
UH, WE'LL WAIT, UH, COMMISSIONER MICHELLE, TYLER, YOU HAD THE, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION? AND IF YOU HAVE A SECOND, WE CAN, UM, VOTE HEARING THIS, UH, THIS EVENING, THE STAFF PRESENTATION.
SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, BUT POSTPONE DISCUSSION FOR THE MAY 25TH MEETING.
UH, COMMISH VICE YOUR HEMPEL I THINK HAD HER HAND UP FIRST.
SO, UM, SO ANY, I GUESS WE'LL GO AND MOVE THROUGH, UM, DISCUSSION AT THE SIDE.
WE WANT TO SPEAK, UH, IN FAVOR OF YOUR, UH, OR YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONER, MUCH TALLER AS PREVIOUSLY STATED BY COMMISSIONER SHEA.
UH, ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS MOTION? ANYONE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER SHEA? SO I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY THAT THE, THAT THE MOTION IN THIS THING IS THAT IT IS THE PRESENTATION.
SO WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION HERE TO GO BACK AND FORTH.
IT'S JUST THE STAFF PRESENTATION.
SO THERE, ISN'T A POINT WHERE WE ASK THE QUESTIONS.
JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO, SO THIS, WELL, LET ME JUST BE CLEAR STAFF, IS THAT A MOTION INDICATED THIS IS STAFF'S PRESENTATION AS THE APPLICANT, SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET WHATEVER THEY HAVE PREPARED FOR THIS EVENING.
IF THEY, IF WE GAVE THEM MORE TIME, THEY MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, BUT YOU'RE GETTING AS THE APPLICANT, WHAT THEY'RE READY TO PRESENT THIS EVENING.
AND, AND IT'S ONLY ONE SIDE, IT COMES TO US AND THEN THAT'S IT.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE, YOU KNOW, W WHAT'S ON THE TABLE, AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARD.
AND THEN QUESTIONS COULD BE ASSEMBLED AND SENT TO, UM, OUR CHAIR AND THEN HE CAN SEND THE QUESTIONS ON TO STAFF.
UH, THOSE WILL BE SENT TO, YEAH.
SO LET ME, UH, MR.
UH, MR. RIVERA, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
SO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE MOTION IS TO HEAR FROM STAFF HERE, THERE IS THE APPLICANT, AND THEN WE WILL POSTPONE ANY FURTHER Q AND A AND ACTION FOR A FUTURE DATE.
AND TO GIVE US TIME TO PULL TOGETHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, IS THAT
SO IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GO THAT ROUTE, UM, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY WE WOULD, UM, I'D PROBABLY ASK THAT WE SET A, UM, THE TIMEFRAME TO PROVIDE A DEADLINE, TO PROVIDE ME THOSE QUESTIONS SO I CAN FORWARD THOSE TO STAFF AND HAVE ADEQUATE TIME TO INCLUDE THEM IN A FUTURE BRIEFING.
SO, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, SMALL, UM, SOMEBODY WANTED TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION TO PROVIDE A TIME TABLE OR QUESTIONS MR. MITCHELL DOLLAR.
SO, UH, GONNA TAKE BACK THAT MOTION, AMEND IT.
SO THE MOTION IS TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION FROM STAFF THIS EVENING.
UM, QUESTIONS SHOULD BE SUBMITTED TO, UH, ONE MOMENT.
SO I THINK WE DID, WE ALREADY, WE DID NOT.
UM, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SHOULD BE SUBMITTED.
UM, I WOULD THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT BY THE MAY 11TH MEETING AS A DEADLINE THAT WOULD GIVE THEM AMPLE TIME TO PREPARE, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE Q AND A AND DISCUSSION AT THE MAY 25TH MEETING.
YOU HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION, MR. SHEA, SECOND MOTION.
UM, DO WE NEED ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, COPS, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR?
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UH, WELL, YEAH, I'M IN FAVOR, BUT, BUT THERE'S ANY, YOU MENTIONED, UH, YOU KIND OF GAVE AN OMINOUS MENTION OF WE'RE GOING TO GET WHATEVER STAFF IS READY TO PRESENT TODAY, WHICH MAKES ME THINK THAT MAYBE STAFF WAS FULLY EXPECTING THIS, THE PRESENTATION WE POSTPONE IN THAT THEY'RE NOT PREPARED TO PRESENT.IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING? NO, I I'D SAY, UM, WELL, WE COULD, UH, I WOULD SAY IS STAFF.
WE HAVE STAFF ON THE LINE THAT WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION.
SHAW, THIS IS MARK WALTERS, HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE WERE, WE HAD A PRESENCE.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION READY TO GO, AND WE CREATED UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PRESENTING TONIGHT.
THE, UH, BRIEFING KIND OF CAME IN TOWARDS THE END OF THE DAY.
SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO PREPARE FOR THAT BRIEFING IN THE FUTURE.
OUR THINKING WAS IS THAT WE WOULD, UH, PRESENT THE PRESENTATION, A BRIEF TO COMMISSION ON THE 11TH AND GIVE THEM THE BACKGROUND AND THE CONTEXT OF THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN AND ALL OF THAT.
AND THEN COME BACK ON THE 25TH AND PRESENT THE STAFF PRESENTATION.
SO, UH, THE, THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE, THE BRIEFING AND THE BACKGROUND.
SO WHEN THEY WENT INTO THE DELIBERATIONS, THEY WOULD HAVE, UH, THE PRESENTATION, THEY WOULD HAVE THAT BACKGROUND TO INFORM DELIBERATIONS.
YES, I'M AWARE OF THAT, I GUESS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU, YOU ALL DO ARE PREPARED TO DISCUSS THESE ITEMS THIS EVENING.
WE ARE PREPARED TO PRESENT TONIGHT.
THAT WAS THE INITIAL GAME PLAN WHEN WE, UH, 40.
UM, SO YES, SO THE, THE MOTION IS I UNDERSTAND IS TO, UM, JUST TO RESTATE IT, COMMISSIONER MITCHELL, TODDLER AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SAY IS TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE STAFF, UH, PRESENT AS THE APPLICANT, UH, THIS EVENING.
UH, WE WILL THEN, UM, ALLOW FOR QUESTIONS TO BE SUBMITTED TO MR. RIVERA UP THROUGH, LET'S SAY, UM, NOON, UM, BEFORE MAY, UH, OF MAY 11TH BEFORE OUR MAY 11TH MEETING.
ARE YOU OKAY? UM, I'M ADDING MORE DETAIL BECAUSE I THINK, UH, MR. RIVERA NEEDS THAT, BUT MAY 11TH IS THE DEADLINE, UH, WITH ALL OUR OTHER, UH, REQUIREMENTS NEW THIS, THE DEADLINE.
UM, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND USE THAT DEADLINE AND THEN, UH, WE WILL HAVE BEEN TAKE UP ANY QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND ACTION ON MAY 25TH.
IS THAT THE MOTION? OH, I'M HEARING STAFF IS GOING TO NEED MORE TIME.
SO, UH, LET'S, LET'S GO AND PULL THAT BACK.
UH, DO YOU WANT TO, LET ME GO AND SAY THIS, LET'S GO AHEAD.
UM, STAFF, LET'S GO INTO OUR STAFF.
UH, IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED, UM, FOR, UH, MAY 25TH FOR US TO TAKE ACTION.
UM, WHEN DO YOU NEED THOSE QUESTIONS BY, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS MARK WALTERS, HOUSING AND PLANNING.
I JUST DEPENDS ON THE COMPLEXITY AND THE DETAIL OF THE QUESTIONS.
UH, I WOULD SAY IT'S MAYBE A WEEK PRIOR TO THE MAY 11TH, UH, NEEDING THAT WOULD GIVE US PLENTY OF TIME TO RESEARCH ANYTHING WE MIGHT NEED TO RESEARCH AND THEN TO TAILOR OUR, A BRIEFING ON THE 11TH TO, UH, ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL AS PROVIDE BACKGROUND.
I THINK, UH, THE MOTION IS NOT TO FLUTE A BRIEFING.
IS THAT CORRECT? COMMISSIONER MOOSE DOLLAR.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN ADDITIONAL BRIEFING ON THE 11TH ANY LONGER, CORRECT.
CAUSE YOU HAD SAID THE MAY 11TH AGENDA WAS GOING TO BE PRETTY PACKED, SO YES.
TRY AND GIVE THEM EXTRA WORK TIME AND EXTRA TIME FOR US TO GET QUESTIONS IN, IN PREPARATION FOR MAY 25TH.
SO MR. WALTER, DO YOU HAVE THAT? WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO PRESENT AND ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS BY THE 11TH.
THERE WILL BE NO PRESENTATION ON THE 11TH.
SO IF WE GET QUESTIONS SOMEBODY'S PUTTING YOUR TIME, THAT WOULD BE TWO WEEKS LEAD TIME TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN PRESENT ON THE 25TH.
SO WE'RE GOING, THE MOTION WILL BE STAYED AS IT IS, UH, THAT WAS IN,
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SO LET'S GO AHEAD.MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOSHE, TODDLER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHAY.
LET'S TAKE A VOTE AND THEN ITEM.
I SEE WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY 12 BY 12 ZERO.
SO THAT IS ALL ON THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.
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UH, WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, WHICH IS WELL FIRST AND ONLY.UM, WELL, NO, THE FIRST, UH, ITEM B 11, UH, THE PART APPEAL, UH, STAFF.
ARE YOU READY? UH, HELLO COMMISSIONERS SCOTT, GRANT THEM WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.
UH, SO AM I CLEARED TO START MY PRESENTATION? YES, PLEASE DO.
UM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
UH, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MY PRESENTATION GETS PULLED UP.
UM, THE AAV FOLKS DO A GREAT JOB AND I'M SURE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO FIND IT.
YES, I CAN SEE THE, UH, FIRST PAGE.
UM, I'LL GET STARTED SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
UM, UM, I'M GOING TO BE QUEUING THE FOLKS TO MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY NEXT SLIDE NOW.
SO THIS IS A, AN APPEAL BY THE APPLICANT FOR, UM, A REQUIREMENT BY PARD FOR LAND DEDICATION.
UM, IN THIS CASE, THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING TO PAY FEE AND LOO FOR A SITE PLAN.
SO IN 25, ONE SIX OH FIVE IN THE CODE, THERE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT PART USES THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT USES TO DECIDE WHETHER THE APPLICANT WILL PAY A FEE AND LOO OR DEDICATE PARKLAND.
AND THEN THEN THE SAME CODE SECTION, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT SAYS THAT THE DECISION CAN BE APPEALED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN IT SHOULD FIRST GO TO PARKS BOARD.
SO IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT HAS DECIDED TO APPEAL AND THE CASE HAS GONE TO PARKS BOARD ON JANUARY 26TH, PARKS BOARD VOTED TO SUPPORT PARTS REQUIREMENT FOR LAND IN THIS CASE, AND TO DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, UM, FOR THESE TYPES OF APPEALS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES THE FINAL DECISION.
SO THIS WILL NOT GO TO COUNCIL.
UM, IT WILL BE DECIDED TONIGHT.
SO THIS IS A, UH, THIS IS THE WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENBELT.
THIS IS THE VISION FOR THE ENTIRE THING.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S A GRAND VISION.
IT GOES FROM ALL THE WAY FROM EAST TO WEST WEST TO EAST, UM, AND THE CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENBELT IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TODAY.
YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW.IS, IS ROUGHLY WHERE THE SITE IS ON SOUTH CONGRESS.
UM, SO THIS IS, ARE LITERALLY FILLING IN THE GAPS AS WE GO TO CREATE THIS VISION.
AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT, UM, THE CENTRAL WAYS AND CREEK GREEN GREENWAY PLAN WAS JUST AT ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.
SO THIS IS A ZOOM, YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IN YELLOW.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THERE ARE SOME GAPS HERE IN THE GREEN BELT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FILL IN.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, ONE OTHER WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, ENTRY POINTS TO THE GREENBELT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S ONE AT SOUTH FIRST ON THE LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.
AND THERE'S ONE ON SOUTH CONGRESS THAT IS, UH, TO THE LOWER PART OF YOUR SCREEN.
AND, UM, BOTH OF THESE ARE ABOUT A QUARTER MILE FROM THE SITE ITSELF.
AND AGAIN, THE SITE IS IN YELLOW AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT, IT, IT'S AN INTERESTING SHAPE, A PIECE AND IT WRAPS AROUND WILLIAM'S INCREASE.
SO A LOT OF FRONTAGE ON BMC CREEK.
SO NUMBER SIX, UM, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SLIDE I THINK OF THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE THESE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT WE LOOK AT AT PARD DETERMINED, WHETHER IT WOULD BE A LAND, DEDICATION OR FEE AND LOU.
AND SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THESE, UM, IS IT LOCATED WITHIN WHAT WE CALL THE DEFICIENT PARK AREA MAP? UH, IS IT ADJACENT TO EXISTING PARKLAND? DOES IT HAVE SUFFICIENT ACREAGE? SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR REALLY ENOUGH ACREAGE FOR A MEANINGFUL GREEN SPACE.
UM, IT'S A QUARTER ACRE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, AND NUMBER FOUR, IS IT NEEDED TO ADDRESS A CRITICAL NEED? SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE A GAP IN SAY A GREENBELT OR, UM, SOMETHING THAT WOULD REMEDY, UH, A NEED FOR PARKLAND
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AND NUMBER FIVE, WOULD IT, UH, PROVIDE FOR INCREASED CONNECTIVITY, UH, WITH EXISTING OR PLANNED PARKS? THE ANSWER TO ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS IN THIS CASE IS YES.SO BASED ON THESE CRITERIA, UH, PART MUST REQUIRE LAND AND DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ACCEPT THE, AND SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
UM, THE, ONCE WE COME TO THAT CONCLUSION OF THE LAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WE ASK QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF LAND IS IT AND HOW IS IT ACCESSED BY THE PUBLIC AND THAT THERE YOU COME TO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, THEN IT'S NOT REALLY A PARK.
IT'S NOT REALLY A MEANINGFUL PARK.
IT'S NOT ONE THAT CAN BE USED.
UM, AND THEN ON AND OFF STREET CONNECTIONS BE PROVIDED.
SO, UM, THAT, THERE'S A, UH, THERE'S A WAY FOR FOLKS TO REACH IT.
SO THE INTERIOR OF THE PARK SHOULD BE VISIBLE.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR A GREEN BELT, NOT NECESSARILY, UH, BUT THE PARKLAND SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO THOSE HUMAN NEIGHBORHOOD EITHER BY WALKING OR PROVISION OF PARKING.
SO ONE OF THOSE TWO, SO IT SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC AND TO ACHIEVE THAT IT MUST BE CONNECTED TO THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THIS IS, WE'RE GETTING REALLY CLOSE INTO THE SITE HERE.
WE CAN SEE THAT IT'S, IT'S FRONTING ALONG SOUTH CONGRESS, UM, AND THERE'S EXISTING PARKLAND THERE NOW.
UH, IT'S ON THE HIGH SIDE OF A BLUFF, WHICH MAKES IT VERY TRICKY TO ACCESS.
SO THE, THE, UH, PINK LINE IS ACTUALLY THE ENVISION TRAIL THAT WOULD GO ALONG THIS AND IT'S A RELATIVELY FLAT SPACE.
SO IT, IT PROVIDES A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR ACCESS.
UM, THIS IS THE PARK DEFICIENCY MAP THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT AND, UH, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE PARKLAND EXPANDING, UM, IN THE DIRECTION OF THE ORANGE.
IT WOULDN'T BE ALL OF THE ORANGE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PINK LINE HAS BEEN ENCOMPASSED BY THAT, UM, THAT SPACE.
THIS IS A LITTLE BLURRY, EXCUSE THIS, BUT THIS IS FROM THE CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK GREEN GREENBELT PLAN.
AND, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE WHITE LINE HERE IS THE TRAIL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO IN THIS, THIS PLAN THAT THAT IS, HAS HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT HAS HAD A LOT OF, UM, UH, WORK DONE ON IT.
THE, THE TRAIL IS VERY MUCH A PART OF THIS PLAN.
UH, SECONDLY, IT IS ALSO AN URBAN TRAIL, UH, RECOMMENDED A TIER TWO URBAN TRAIL.
SO GETTING INTO THIS IS NUMBER 12, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE SITE PLAN, UM, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT YOU'VE GOT A, YOU'VE GOT THE GREEN, WHICH IS A, UM, WHICH IS THE, THE PARKLAND, UH, THAT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE SITE PLAN AND THE BLUE, WHICH IS, UH, THE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WE ARE REQUIRING FOR THIS.
SO YOU REALLY NEED BOTH PIECES HERE.
YOU NEED THE PARKLAND, AND THEN YOU NEED A WAY TO GET TO IT.
SO, UH, IN, IN CONCLUSION, UH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU SUPPORT PARTS REQUEST FOR LAND DEDICATION, AND TO DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO PAY FEE IN LIEU OF LAND DEDICATION.
I'VE GOT ANOTHER COUPLE OF SLIDES, BUT I'M GOING TO SAVE THOSE IN CASE THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, ACTUALLY I MIGHT FLASH BACK QUICKLY TO, UH, SLIDE NUMBER 12.
AND I MIGHT JUST SAY THAT, THAT WE MIGHT BE HEARING QUITE A LOT ABOUT THE ACCESS DRIVE, THAT WHAT YOU SEE IN BLUE AND, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE SITE ITSELF.
AND, UH, WE AT PART HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH OTHER REVIEWERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ACCESS CAN BE PROVIDED AND THAT IT WOULD, UH, IT CAN OVERLAP WITH OTHER CITY REQUIREMENTS.
OUR, OUR DESIRE IS NOT TO IMPACT THE BUILDING OR THE NUMBER OF UNITS OR THE PARKING ON THIS SITE.
SO WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UM, AND, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAD EARLIER SAID THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN US DOING THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE MY PRESENTATION AND OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
WE'VE GOT, UM, ON, UM, YEAH, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT, MR. MIKE MICONE, ARE YOU THERE? STAR SIX TO MEET? OKAY.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, I CAN.
UM, FIRST I WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE
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COMMISSION, THE STAFF AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OR THEY'RE A CONSIDERATION FOR ME PERSONALLY.UH, THE MONTH OF MARCH WAS KIND OF A DIFFICULT MONTH FOR ME, AND I APPRECIATE THEIR NO CONSIDERATION.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T AGREE WITH ANYTHING THAT, UH, MR. SCOTT HAS SAID, UH, AND A LOT OF WHAT HE HAS SAID FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP MY SLIDES, UH, FROM, I HAVE JUST, I'VE HAD CHEM STAFF BRING THOSE UP.
I'LL LET YOU DO IT WHEN I SEE IT.
AND IT'S A, UH, IT'S A VIEW FROM SAXONY LANE TO BEN WHITE BOULEVARD UP CONGRESS AVENUE.
STEPH, DO YOU GUYS, DO YOU HAVE THAT PRESENTATION? SURE.
COMMISSIONER WAITS ON, THEY WE'RE PULLING UP THE SLIDES JUST A MINUTE.
UH, MR. MCCONNELL, WE'LL START WITH THE, UH, MAP.
MATH NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE VIEW FROM STASSNEY LANE, LOOKING NORTH AND WHITE BOULEVARD WITH OUR LOCATION MARKED IN THE RED THERE AND ORANGE 48 OH TWO IS ABOUT, UH, REMAINS TO BE ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF ACRES OF WHICH, UH, ONLY A LITTLE OVER ONE ACRE CAN BE REDEVELOPED BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN WITH CRITICAL WATER QUALITY.
SOME OF THEM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT RUNS BEHIND A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES THAT FACE ON CONGRESS AVENUE, WHICH ALSO PRESENTS SOME REAL CHALLENGES.
UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE ORANGE LINE, UH, FROM DOWN CONGRESS AVENUE.
THE ENTRY POINT TO THE ORANGE LINE WILL BE STATUS ME LANE AND ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN OUR SITE AND THEN, UH, THE, UH, DENBIGH BOULEVARD IN PRELIMINARY CLAIMS. SO WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE IN THE AREA SOMEWHAT CUT OFF.
ONE THING I WANT TO CLARIFY REAL QUICKLY IS THAT WE HAVE NO OBJECTION AND HAVE NEVER OBJECTED TO THE DEDICATION OF PARKLAND, AND WE WILL BE GIVING
OUR PROBLEM IS WITH THE EXIT OF EASEMENT.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE GREENBELT, HOW IT RUNS AROUND THERE.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, UH, UH, WHERE WE ARE AND WE ARE.
AND, UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE SUPPORT.
UM, YOU SHOULD NOTE THAT, UH, THE STAFF SAYS IT'S A QUARTER MILE.
THE ACTUAL DISTANCE IS 0.17 MILES OR A LITTLE OVER 930 FEET FROM OUR DRIVEWAY TO THE POINT OF ENTRY.
ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE PROPERTY ON WRITTEN BETWEEN US THAT HAS NOT YET DEVELOPED.
AND HE HAS INDICATED IT IS NOT PER SE.
WHAT WE WOULD BE A DEVELOPMENT SITE.
USUALLY TONIGHT IS GOING TO FALL AROUND ONE PARTICULAR PROVISION IN THE CODE THAT WAS DECIDED A LONG TIME AGO.
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AND IT WAS 25, ONE 600, THREE 82 ON STREET.AND THE HALL STREET CONNECTIONS BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS SHALL BE PROVIDED WHENEVER POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE REASONABLE ACCESS TO PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AREAS.
PARK HAS INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE WORKED WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
UM, WE UNDERSTAND FROM WORKING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, THAT THE EASEMENT THEY ARE PROPOSING IS AND HAVE ASKED US TO PROVIDE IS A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT DOWN THE DRIVEWAY.
THIS IS THE SOLE ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY.
IT IS A TWO-WAY DRIVEWAY, AND IT, THEY WANT PEOPLE TO WALK DOWN THAT DRIVEWAY AND WE JUST FEEL THAT IS NOT REASONABLE.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR SIDE, NUMBER THREE, THAT I HAVE, WHICH IS A COPY OF THEIR SIZE THAT YOU JUST SAYING, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM GIVING UP THIS LAND.
WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH NOT ONLY THE ACCESS FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SAYING, UH, YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE DOWN THE DRIVEWAY.
WE ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF OUR BUILDING, THIS, THIS IS THE AREA THAT'S NOT IN THE FLOOD APPLYING TO, OR THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.
AND WE HAVE THE REQUIRED ATTENTION FROM WATERSHED.
AND THERE'S NO WAY IF THERE WAS LAND AVAILABLE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT, BUT THERE'S JUST NO WAY TO GET AN ACCESS EASEMENT THROUGH THIS PROPERTY THAT IS SAFE AND REASONABLE SLIDE.
NUMBER FOUR IS A SORT OF A GENERAL CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY IS THAT SLIDE UP, WHICH SHOWS THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH 49, 49, 30 SOUTH CONGRESS OUTLINES OUR SAB, THAT AREA BETWEEN THESE TWO BUILDINGS, THESE TWO BUILDINGS, AND THESE TWO LOTS IS A 10 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED.
AND THE SUBDIVISION OF THIS PROPERTY BACK IN 1986, WHY IT WAS NOT REQUIRED TO PARKLAND THEN I DON'T KNOW, BUT, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS A SUBDIVISION, I GUESS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE WAS A DEVELOPER FROM HOUSTON INDICATES.
AND HE IS HIRED TO THE GRIN GROUP TO DEVELOP IT PROBABLY IN TWO YEARS.
I DON'T KNOW HE HAS SOME LEASE ISSUES GOING ON WITH CURRENT TENANTS.
SO WE SUGGEST AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT DEVELOPER OR POTENTIAL DEVELOPER REDEVELOPER, UH, THIS WHOLE PROPERTY HAS IT OR ANY EASEMENT ACROSS THE BACK OF IT.
AND WE HAVE A GRINDY CHEESEMAN DRAINING PROPERTY FROM THE NORTH ACROSS OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE MENSTRUAL FLOW DRAINAGE.
BUT THROUGH NEBRASKA IS PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT INTO A PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WILL BE 10 FEET WIDE.
AND THE NEXT FINAL SLIDE THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU IS WE HAVE, WE ARE SURVEYING THIS AREA AND NOW WE HAVE DONE A CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WOULD BE, AND IT WOULD COME DOWN THE, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES AND PROVIDE THE GREAT ACCESS AND NOT HAVE THE PROBLEM OF TWO-WAY WALKING DOWN THIS DRIVEWAY, UH, AND PROBABLY HAVING TO SWIM THROUGH A DETENTION POND TO GET TO THE PRODUCT LEVEL.
BEING HEALTHY GAMES OR ANY QUESTIONS AT TONS OF INFORMATION.
OUR NEXT PRESENTER WILL BE OUR ENGINEER, MICHAEL RIVERA.
WHO'S WORKED ON THIS PROJECT SINCE ITS INCEPTION.
AND, UH, I GUESS MR. RIVERA, ARE YOU, ARE YOU THERE? YES.
I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER AND, UH, NO RELATION TO ANDREW THAT I KNOW, BUT ANYWAY, SO, UH, YEAH.
UH, SO I HAVE BEEN WORK AS A BIKE SPOKE.
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SITE SINCE 2019, UH, JUNE OF 2019.
WE STARTED DOING SOME WORK ON IT, CONTACTED PARKS PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION.
IN NOVEMBER, 2019, WE SUBMITTED THE SITE PLAN APP AND TRADED EMAILS AND, UH, SENT DRAWINGS AND STUFF STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE SITE PLAN AND, YOU KNOW, PARK FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND ACTUALLY SUBMITTED THIS, I PLAN FOR COMPLETING THIS CHECK IN DECEMBER LATE DECEMBER OF 2019, WENT THROUGH COMPLETENESS CHECK AND SITE PLAN WAS, UH, FORMALLY SUBMITTED FEBRUARY 20, 20 OVER A YEAR AGO.
AND, UH, WENT THROUGH AND FINALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED GETTING SOME COMMENTS AND I GUESS IT WAS MARCH AND THAT'S WHERE PARKS STARTED TALKING ABOUT PARKLAND AND, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS, AS MIKE POINTED OUT ON THAT DRIVEWAY, IS WE, THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN PUT OUR DRAINAGE
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OR POND OR DETENTION AND STORMWATER QUALITY POND IS AT THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT BY THE, THE ACCESS DRIVE.AND, UH, THE GRADES ARE SUCH THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE THE WEIRD ENDED UP WITH A RETAINING WALL AT THE END OF THE DRIVE, THAT'S FIVE OR SIX FEET IN ELEVATION.
AND SO THERE'S GOING TO BE THERE'S.
UH, I THINK PARKS WAS TALKING ABOUT AN ADA ACCESS DOWN INTO THE PARK, AND IT'S LIKE THAT'S TO DO WITH SOME TYPE OF, UH, UH, RAMP OR, UH, AT THE END OF THAT DRIVE YOU'RE, IT'S GOING RIGHT INTO WHERE THE HALF CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE IS, WHICH IS WE'VE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE, UH, STAYED OUT OF THAT HALF CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE IS ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS.
SO MIKE POINT KIND OF TOUCHED ON SOME OF THE SITE ISSUES HERE, BUT WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, THE FLOOD PLAIN, THAT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT TREES ON THE SITE, INCLUDING A NUMBER OF HERITAGE TREES, WHICH WE HAD TO AVOID, UH, THE LIMITED ACCESS ON THE, ON SOUTH CONGRESS.
AND SO THAT ONE ACRE ONE PLUS ACRE ONE MAYBE, UH, THAT WERE, UH, OUT OF THE 5.5 ACRES, FOUR ACRES OF IT IS CRITICAL WATER QUALITY, SO ON.
AND SO WE, AND, UH, WE'VE HAD TO TRY AND TIGHTEN EVERYTHING UP THERE ALONG CONGRESS AND INCLUDING THAT DRIVE, WHICH IS THE ONLY ACCESS TO THE SITE.
AND SO, UH, WE'VE GOT GREAT ISSUES AT THE END OF THIS SITE.
WE'VE GOT DRAINAGE WITH, WE NEED TO DRAIN THE SITE OUT THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER, ALONG WITH OFFSITE WATER COMING AT THE SITE TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE AND DRAINING THROUGH THE SITE.
UH, SO THERE'S A LOT OF SU UH, SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH.
SO TRYING TO GET IN AT PARK ACCESS AT THAT LOCATION, THERE ISN'T AN ACCESS NOW IT'S IT WAS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS CAR.
THERE WAS A CAR DEALERSHIP THERE.
AND IF THIS APPLICANT WASN'T DOING A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THEY WERE DOING OFFICE OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY COULD DO UNDER THE ZONING, THEY WOULD HAVE THIS ISSUE.
PARKLAND WOULDN'T EVEN BE AN ISSUE.
SO ANYWAY, UH, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME, UH, CHAIR AND PLANNING PATIENT.
AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK THREE MINUTES? OKAY.
I'M A LEGAL RESEARCH ASSISTANT FOR PALM WARREN, A LOCAL ATTORNEY, UH, WITH HIM.
UM, I HELPED HIM PREPARE A LEGAL ANALYSIS OF THE LANDOWNERS POTENTIAL LIABILITY ARISING FROM THE USE BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC OF A PUBLIC ASSETS, EASEMENT DOWN A 25 FOOT DRIVEWAY FIRE LANE ON THIS PROPERTY.
UH, IT WAS A FIVE PAGE, UH, LEGAL ANALYSIS.
I'M SIMPLY GONNA SUMMARIZE IT.
THE ANALYSIS WAS REQUIRED BECAUSE, UH, AT THE JANUARY PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING THE BOARD, OR THE STAFF SUGGESTED THAT THE TEXAS RECREATIONAL USE STATUTE WOULD PROTECT THE LAND OWNER.
UH, IN THIS SITUATION, WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT STATUTE, IT'S CHAPTER 75 OF THE TEXAS CIVIL PRACTICE AND REMEDIES CODE.
AND WHILE IT DOES PREVENT SOME LIMITATIONS TO LIABILITY FOR THE LANDOWNER, IT DOESN'T DO IT IN EVERY CASE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEONE IS INJURED BECAUSE OF THE GROSS NEGLIGENCE OF THE LANDLORD, UH, THE LAND OF THE LAND OWNER, THE LAND OWNER CAN BE SUED.
UH, THE LAND OWNER STILL HAS DUTIES UNDER THE COMMON LAW TO WARN A DANGEROUS CONDITIONS, TO MAKE THE PROPERTY SAFE AND TO INSPECT THE PROPERTY FOR DANGEROUS CONDITIONS.
UH, SOME OF THE CASES WE LOOKED AT AND THIS LETTERS, I UNDERSTAND IT IS PART OF THE RECORD.
SO YOU CAN READ IT IN MORE DETAIL LATER, BUT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THE CASES WE LOOKED AT, UM, THERE'S A TEXAS SUPREME COURT CASE WHERE A LANDOWNER WHO FAILED TO WARN OR MAKE SAFE, A DANGEROUS CONDITION ON THE PROPERTY WAS FOUND TO BE A LIABLE FOR GROSS NEGLIGENCE.
AND THAT STATUTE WOULD NOT PROTECT THE LANDOWNER.
ONE OTHER CASE WE LOOKED AT KIM'S OUT OF THE CITY OF WACO ARE CONCERNED, THE CITY OF WACO, IT INVOLVED, UH, A RECREATIONAL USER FALLING OFF A CLIFF ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHICH IS, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PORNOGRAPHY OF THIS LOT ALONG THE CREEK, UH, THERE ARE SOME BLUFFS OR SOME SMALL, UM, RAISED AREAS.
UM, THE COURT DISCUSSED THAT THERE WAS A DUTY OF CARE THAT THE LANDOWNER, UH, SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THAT CONDITION.
UM, AND SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO ALLEVIATE THAT CONDITION.
HOW DOES, HOW DOES ALL THIS APPLY TO THIS CASE? WELL, THERE ARE SAFER AND MORE REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES, PARKLAND ACCESS FORCING THE PUBLIC TO WALK IN A DRIVEWAY THAT IS ALSO A FIRE LANE, IS AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.
THEN EMBROIL THE LANDOWNER AND COSTLY LITIGATION.
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IT'S GONNA RAISE HIS FUTURE INSURANCE PREMIUMS, AND IT MIGHT EVEN INVOLVE THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN THE LAWSUIT IF SOMEONE WERE TO GET HURT, BECAUSE EXHIBIT NUMBER ONE, UH, IN A LAWSUIT LIKE THAT, MR. MOREN BELIEVES IS GOING TO BE THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING HERE ABOUT THERE.THERE'S MORE REASONABLE AND SAFER ALTERNATIVE ACCESS THAN DRIVE GOING DOWN THIS DRIVEWAY.
SO REQUIRING THIS ACCESS EASEMENT, UH, OPENS UP EVERYBODY TO LIABILITY, UH, IN SHORT, UH, MR. MORIN WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THE FIRE LANE IS A SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM OF PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE GREEN BELT, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THAT IT'S POSSIBLE, UH, TO HAVE A SAFER AND MORE REASONABLE ACCESS FROM EITHER THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OR FROM PROPERTY ACROSS THE CREEK.
I THINK THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS WE HAVE, UH, AND JUST, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, MR. MCKOWN IS CONSIDERED THE APPELLANT AS OPPOSED TO THE APPLICANT.
UM, AND NOW WE HAVE SPEAKERS, UM, OPPOSED AND STARTED.
I HAVE FIRST ON THE LIST IS NICOLE JOCELYN AS THE PRIMARY SPEAKER POSTS, STAR SIX CENTIMETERS.
HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES? UM, OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
UM, MY NAME IS NICOLE JOSLIN AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT COMMUNITY POWERED WORKSHOP.
WE ARE A LOCAL NONPROFIT ARCHITECTURE AND PLANNING ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS ALONGSIDE COMMUNITIES TO CREATE POWERFUL AND EQUITABLE PLACEMENT.
UM, I SHARED A LETTER WITH YOU ALL PREVIOUSLY WHEN THIS FIRST WAS THIS, UH, CASE WAS FIRST ON YOUR AGENDA.
UM, I GUESS BACK IN FEBRUARY, MARCH, UM, AND OUR LETTER WAS IN SUPPORT OF PARKLAND, DEDICATION AND PUBLIC ASSETS ON THE SITE, RATHER THAN ALLOWING THE DEVELOPER TO PAY A FEE IN LIEU DUE TO THE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS FOR A HEALTHY AND CONNECTED GREEN SPACE SERVING THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, THERE ARE NEARLY 58 ACRES OF PARKLAND AND 17 ACRES OF RESIDENTIAL FLOOD, PLAIN BUYOUT PROPERTIES BETWEEN MANCHESTER AND SOUTH CONGRESS CREATING ALMOST TWO MILES OF CONNECTED GREEN SPACE ALONG CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK.
AND THE SITE UNDER CONSIDERATION TONIGHT COULD PROVIDE A VERY VALUABLE MISSING LINK IN THAT CONNECTED GREEN SPACE.
AND 2017, OUR ORGANIZATION WAS APPROACHED BY LOCAL COMMUNITY LEADERS TO SUPPORT A PROCESS THAT WOULD ENABLE RESIDENTS TO REIMAGINE THE SCREEN SPACE AS A RESILIENT, HEALTHY, AND CONNECTED GREENWAY.
AND SINCE THEN WE HAVE BEEN BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS AND WORKING ALONGSIDE THE SOUTHWOOD AND HEARTWOOD NEIGHBORS THROUGH AN ENGAGED PROCESS THAT CONTINUES TODAY.
AND THIS PROCESS HAS INCLUDED STAKEHOLDERS OF ALL KINDS, SUCH AS HOMEOWNERS, RENTERS, AND SHELTER INDIVIDUALS, RECREATION, ADVOCATES, ANTHONY DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVE WITH THE SUPPORT OF A HEALTHY PARKS GRANT FROM THE ST DAVID'S FOUNDATION.
THIS FOUR YEAR PROCESS IS CULMINATED TODAY IN A COMMUNITY LED GREENWAY VISION PLAN THAT IS IN ITS FINAL STAGES OF REVIEW AND ADOPTION BY THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AS SCOTT GRANTHAM SHARED EARLIER IN THIS LAST YEAR ALONE, WE HAVE ENGAGED OVER A THOUSAND COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN IDENTIFYING COMMUNITY PRIORITIES AND CRAFTING A COMPREHENSIVE IMPLEMENTATION PLANS FOR THE GREENWAY.
AND IT IS APPARENT FROM OUR COLLABORATION WITH THE COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT THIS SITE WOULD BE CRITICAL TO CONNECTIVITY AND ACCESS TO THE GREEN SPACE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
FURTHERMORE, ACCORDING TO, UH, THE HEALTHY PARTS PLANS WITH TRAVIS DASH SHOP IN CALDWELL COUNTIES, THIS AREA IS IN HIGH NEED OF ADDITIONAL PARKLAND AND THE VAST MAJORITY AREAS AROUND CENTROIDS THE CREEK HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A VERY HIGH AND HIGH PRIORITY AREAS MAKING THIS CASE, NOT ONLY A QUESTION OF OUR CITY'S DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIES, BUT ALSO WHAT OF HEALTH EQUITY.
I, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A FEW OTHER OF MY COLLEAGUES ON THE LINE TONIGHT TO SPEAK AS LONG AS, OR AS WELL AS SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST GIVE THEM, UH, SOME SPACE TO TALK AS WELL.
I THINK THERE LATER ON, UH, JEDDAH.
UH, NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE ON MY LIST IS CHAVONE, UH, TERRELL
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STAR SIX 78, CONFIRMING THAT CAN HEAR, UM, HI, I'M THE, UH, COMMUNITY COORDINATOR AT COMMUNITY PARK WORKSHOP.UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
AND I'D LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE VISION PLANNING PROCESS THAT NICOLE MENTIONED.
UM, OVER THE LAST YEAR COMMUNITY POWER WORKSHOP HAS FACILITATED THE CONVENING OF AN EIGHT MEMBER COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP TO BRING LOCAL VOICES AND PERSPECTIVES TO THE TABLE.
ALONG WITH THE CITY WORKING GROUP OF MOSTLY REPRESENTATIVES FROM WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT AND PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
AND THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE WORKED ALONGSIDE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO DESIGN ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND TO CONNECT RESIDENTS ALONG THE CREEK.
AND THIS INCLUDED STORYTELLING OPPORTUNITIES, VIRTUAL PICNICS, MONTHLY MEETINGS, SOCIALLY DISTANCE CREEK POP-UPS AND TAKE HOME ACTIVITIES WHICH WERE AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.
AND THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, WE HEARD REPEATEDLY THE DESIRE FOR PRIORITIZING TRAIL CONNECTIVITY AND AN EASILY ACCESSIBLE GREENWAY TO IMPROVE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLBEING.
SO PARKLAND DEDICATION ON THIS SITE WOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY PRIORITY PRIORITIES IDENTIFIED IN DIVISION PLAN, WHICH INCLUDE AN ACCESSIBLE AND VISIBLE GREENWAY AND AN ACTIVE AND CONNECTED GREENWAY.
ONE OF THE MAIN OBJECTIVES OF OUR WORK IN WILLY WILLIAMSON CREEK IS TO FOSTER A MORE TRANSPARENT AND OPEN DECISION-MAKING PROCESS ABOUT THE USE OF PUBLIC LAND THAT ELEVATES COMMUNITY VOICE THROUGH CO-DEVELOPED ENGAGEMENT AND PLANNING STRATEGIES AND ON THE GROUND.
THIS MEANS ELEVATING THE ROLE OF COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING AND ADDRESSING THE LONG-TERM HEALTH OF URBAN SOCIAL ECOLOGICAL SYSTEMS. AND IT ALSO INCLUDES BUILDING AND SUPPORTING POSITIVE WORKING RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENTS AND LOCAL RESIDENTS THAT WILL FOSTER LONG-TERM STEWARDSHIP OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND REMAINING CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY STATED PROCESS FOR RECOMMENDING PARKLAND DEDICATION ON, ON THIS SITE WOULD UPHOLD THE PUBLIC TRUST IN A FAIR AND PREDICTABLE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND ALIGN WITH COMMUNITY AND CITY PRIORITIES FOR EQUITABLE ACCESS TO GREEN SPACES ACROSS OUR COMMUNITIES.
SO IT HAS BEEN OUR EXPERIENCE THAT THIS COMMUNITY ORGANIZED AND WELL EQUIPPED TO STEWARD THEIR VISION INTO THE FUTURE.
AND WE SEE IT AS THE CITY'S DUTY TO SUPPORT THE VISION AND COMMITMENT WITH PARKLAND DEDICATION ON THIS SITE.
UM, THANK YOU AGAIN, AND I'LL PASS IT TO, UM, MARLA DORADO TO SHARE MORE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY STORIES AS A, I'VE BEEN TOLD YOU HAVE A VIDEO FOR US.
I'M THE PLANNING DIRECTOR AT COMMUNITY POWER WORKSHOP, AND YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUES, NICOLE, AND CHAVONNE HOW WOULD THE COMMUNITY VISION PLAN FOR THIS AREA AND THE ROLE THE SITE MAY PLAY IN ACHIEVING THAT VISION, UH, WITH PROBABLY LAND DEDICATION.
AND WE'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO SHARE A COMPILATION OF COMMUNITY STORIES ABOUT, UH, JUST HOW SPECIAL THIS AREA IS AND HOW MEANINGFUL THIS GREEN SPACE IS TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE HAVE A LITTLE ANIMATION TO SHOW YOU.
NO I'VE BEEN LIVING FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS.
MY FATHER WAS A BIRDER, MY GRANDMOTHER, SHE KNEW HER BIRD WHEN I SEE SOMETHING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
I TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS.
WE HAVE PLENTY OF CRITTERS ON BACK.
WILLIAMSON CREEK RUNS IN A WEST TO EAST DIRECTION.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE HAVE A HIGHWAY FOR WILDLIFE.
IT'S LIKE HAVING A LITTLE PARK IN SYDNEY.
I COME ON, STAY PARKING LOT ON THE CITY, YOU KNOW, BEHIND MY HOUSE, WE FISHED DOWN THERE AS KIDS.
WE COULD JUMP OFF THE ROCKS INTO THE WATER.
WE GO DOG PADDLE IN THE RAPIDS WHEN WE HAD A GOOD RAIN AND I'LL BE LOOKING AT MY BROTHER, HIS HEAD STICKING UP, BUT IT WAS KIND OF, WELL, I LIVED IN THE NEXT WEEK IF THIS CHILD, ALL THE KIDS ON THE BLOCK YET, AND PRETTY MUCH STARTING DIRECTLY AFTER THEY PUT IN THE SEWAGE SYSTEM, NO CREEK COMPLETELY DIED.
IT WAS JUST FULL OF TRASH WASHING MACHINE CARS, BICYCLE PARTS, TIRES, THE STOLEN VEHICLES AND APPLIANCES THAT HAD BEEN THROWN IN THE CREEK OVER THE YEARS AT ALL, FORMED A DAM.
WELL THAT SNAPPED HURRICANE CAME THROUGH AUSTIN AND A WALL OF WATER CAME HIGH ENOUGH UP TO FLOOD THE HOUSES.
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SOMEONE ORGANIZED CLEAN SWEET CREEK CLEANUP.THAT WAS THE START OF TRYING MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A CREEK AGAIN, IMPROVING ANY PARK IS JUST A MATTER OF INVOLVING YOUR NEIGHBORS.
AND WE GOT TWO TONS WHERE THE TRASH OUT OF THE CREEK, AFTER THAT INITIAL CLEANUP, YOU START TO NOTICE THE BIRDS, AND THEN YOU'RE NOTICING COYOTES AND WE'VE SEEN EAGLES CARDINAL GREAT BLUE HERONS, LESTER BLUE, HERONS GREEN HERONS, NOT TO MENTION THE TURTLES, GETTING WISE TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S NEED FOR NATURAL SURROUNDINGS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS THERE? NO QUESTION ON, ON NICE DAYS, WE WOULD CERTAINLY TAKE THE STUDENTS DOWN THERE AND A COUPLE OF ACOUSTIC GUITARS AND GO AND USE IT MORE.
I ACTUALLY AM PROBABLY OVERDUE FOR A WALK DOWN THERE, A PLACE WHERE I SAFELY FELT LIKE I COULD SAY, HEY BOYS, GO RUN TWO LAPS BEFORE YOU COME BACK FOR DINNER, CHAIRED TIME EXPIRE.
SO WE HAVE NEXT, UM, IS MARIO CAN TWO, THREE MINUTES OR SIX, 10 MINUTES COMMISSIONER.
THERE'S MORE YOU CAN'T TO CHAIR OF THE CELL CONGRESS CONTACT TEAM.
JUST WANTED TO MENTION, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.
UH, SCOTT GRANT, HIM AND MY, MY HOME, UH, FOR THE POSTPONEMENTS ALSO FOR, UH, COMMISSIONERS FROM THE, FROM THE GET-GO OF THIS, UH, UH, PROJECT SWEAR TO MENTIONED THAT, UH, AS A CONTACT TEAM, WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED WITH THE APPLICANT AND WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
UH, ALSO ONE TO LET, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT THERE IS A EXISTING, UH, PROJECT OR A COMPLETE PROJECT THAT, THAT MIMICS EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING MENTIONED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THAT I WAS ABLE TO GO AND LOOK AT OVER ON SOUTH LAMAR.
AND IT, IF HE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THAT IT WAS THERE, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW IT EXISTED.
UH, SO I, I ENVISIONED AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR.
UM, THE HABITAT THAT IS BACK THERE, I FEEL THAT, UH, IF IT'S, IF IT'S ERADICATED MOVED AWAY, UH, BULLDOZE, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE A LOT OF BIRDS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF SPECIES BACK THERE.
SO THAT'S ONE THING TO CONSIDER.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY INNOVATIVE CONCEPT FOR THE SOUTH CONGRESS AVENUE.
YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONERS AND CITY COUNCIL HAVE MENTIONED IN THE PAST THAT WE NEED TO CHARGE UP THIS CORRIDOR.
AND I THINK IF WE WANT TO CHARGE UP THIS CORRIDOR FOR INNOVATION AND FOR PUBLIC ACCESS, IF THE LAND THAT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE THAT WANTS TO HAVE ACCESS TO PARKS, THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY GOOD WAY TO SHOW THAT WE CAN GIVE THAT TO THE PUBLIC FOR THEIR ACCESS TO AND USE FOR PARKS.
AND THAT, UH, I ENVISIONED THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SAFE WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, UH, INTERACTING WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UH, I JUST ALSO WANT TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT MENTIONED THIS A WHILE AGO, UH, ABOUT THE, UH, THE DANGEROUS CONDITIONS TO THE PROPERTY AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS, THERE IS A LOT OF DANGEROUS THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN.
WELL, THERE'S BEEN SOME HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE.
WE COOPERATED WITH THE OWNER TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE CONDITIONS.
UH, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED, WHAT IS GOING ON NOW AND HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN SOME THINGS THAT HAS BEEN DANGEROUS, BUT I THINK IN THIS CONCEPT WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THEY WILL NOT BE DANGEROUS.
IT'S KIND OF, IT'S GOING TO BE SIMPLE.
IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH.
AND ALSO THE LAND TO THE SOUTH OF THERE THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY BE BOUGHT AND HAVE ACCESS FOR THIS EXACT SAME THING.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF HEARSAY AND KIND OF IN THE TALKS, AND THIS IS A GUARANTEE THAT WE CAN DO.
SO, UM, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DENY THE APPEAL AND SO THAT WE CAN CARRY ON WITH PUBLIC ACCESS AND PUBLIC PARKS WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
THANK YOU, MR. CANTU, UH, NITSA.
I HAVE, UH, GLEN, UH, JUS START SIX, 10 MEET.
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WHEN JUDAS, ARE YOU THERE? CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LAYS ON HANDOVER, HEMIS JEWISH ON THE LINE, MS. JEWISH, IF YOU'LL SELECT THE STAR SIX TO PROCEED, SHOULD WE GO ON TO MS. MULLEN AND COME BACK? OR MR. MALDEN IS MR. PAUL NOLAN THERE, PERHAPS WE CAN TAKE YOU FIRST.HI, LET'S JUST GIVE IT HELLO, CHAIR.
UH, DON'T BELIEVE HIM, MR. MULLEN ON THE LINE, MS. JEWISH, IF YOU'RE HAVING ISSUES, IF YOU'LL CALL BACK IN, WE'LL JUST GIVE A FEW MINUTES FOR HER TO CALL BACK IN.
SAY, SEND ME, WHEN ARE YOU THERE? SHE'S JUST PULLING HIM BACK IN.
I'LL TAKE A MINUTE FOR HER TO BE ENTERED INTO THE ROOM.
NOW IF YOU'LL SELECT STAR SIX.
I GOT THE STAR SIX A WHOLE SLEW OF TIMES.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON TONIGHT.
I'M ALSO WITH THE SOUTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOODS PLAN CONTACT TEAM.
AND, UM, AS I WAS SAYING TO MYSELF, A FEW MOMENTS AGO, THERE IS NOTHING ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THE DEVELOPERS HAVE CHOSEN TO, UM, PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY AND DEVELOP THIS SITE.
THE REQUIREMENT FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PUBLIC ACCESS HAS ALL BEEN THERE THE ENTIRE TIME.
SO I FIND IT A LITTLE BIT DISINGENUOUS THAT THE PARTIES HAD NEGOTIATED WITH PARKED ON PART UNDER THE GUISE OF JUST DEDICATING THE PARKLAND AND THEN GET THIS FAR DOWN THE ROAD AND THEN DECIDE THAT THEY DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT AND THROW UP ALL THESE ROADBLOCKS IS THERE ACCESS DRIVE.
AND SO ON, THIS PROJECT IS VERY TIGHT FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINES.
UM, THEY HAVE OPERABLE WINDOWS AND BALCONIES ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH WILL REQUIRE THE PROPERTY OWNER NORTH OF THEM TO HAVE TO SET THEIR BUILDING BACK BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS ENCROACHED AS CLOSE AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE ALLOWABLE BY CODE.
SO THEY'VE IN ESSENCE DONE THE TAKING FROM THOSE FOLKS AND ARE NOW PROPOSING A SOMEWHAT SIMILAR THING BY MAKING USE OF THE DEDICATED,
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UH, PUBLIC UTILITIES WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH.IT SEEMS LIKE THERE MUST BE A WAY THAT THEY CAN USE THE CURB AND THE AREA BETWEEN THE DRIVES.
UM, WHETHER IT'S AN, A LAY DOWN CURB, AS I DISCUSSED WITH, UM, UH, ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, JAMES SHADE, THERE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF CREATIVE THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE HERE SO THAT WE COULD ALLOW THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE SITE.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF NEW PEOPLE MOVING INTO THE SOUTH CONGRESS AREAS, AND WE JUST HAVE A DEARTH OF PARKLAND.
THERE IS BATTLE THEN PARKS NEARBY, BUT OF COURSE THAT'S GOOD IF YOU ARE A BASKETBALL PLAYER OR IF YOU'RE A TODDLER IT'S NOT GEARED TOWARDS ANYONE ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT DOESN'T SATISFY THAT CRAVING FOR BEING GROUNDING AND OUT IN NATURE, NATURAL SPACE.
THE BLUFF THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WOULD ALREADY BE IN THE PARK PART OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN THEIR CONDO ASSOCIATIONS PURVIEW, AS FAR AS PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO DESIGN A, TO SUE THEM.
THE OTHER THING I'D WISH TO SAY IS ALL OF THE DESIGN TEAM MEMBERS, IF THEY WERE DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE ALSO KNOWN THAT THERE IS THIS REQUIREMENT TO DO THE PARKLAND DEDICATION.
SO I URGE YOU AS STRONGLY AS I CAN TO PLEASE, UH, DENIED THE FUNERAL, PAY YOU LOU UP AND SUPPORT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DAVE, TO YOU.
AND SO I'M GOING TO, UM, REACH OUT TO, UM, MR. PAUL MOLAN ONE MORE TIME AND SEE IF WE CAN GET YOU ON THE LINE HERE.
I THINK WE'VE GIVEN IT A GOOD SHOT.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, COMMISSIONER SHAY SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SNYDER.
OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? ROLL THAT BACK.
UH, FOLKS, I THINK, UM, YEAH, APPLICANT SIDE.
WE FORGOT FOR THE, UM, APPLICANT.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES MR. MCKOWN FOR YOUR REBUTTAL.
AND CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN.
I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING BACK IN 1977.
THIS A WHOLE GREENBAUM STARTED GWEN UP THE PREVIOUS OWNER AREA, UH, GOOD NIGHT, UH, GANGS 2.4 ACRES ALONG THIS BLUFF, OR THAT WAS A GIFT TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND RECEIVED A NICE COMMENDATION FOR IT.
AND IT IS A BLEND THAT IS SET FOR ABOUT 1.8 ACRES.
OUR PROBLEM IS THAT IT IS JUST PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO COME DOWN THE DRIVEWAY AND MAKE THE LEAP INTO THE PARK, UM, WITH ANY OTHER WAY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE WE HAVE ON THE SITE, THE HEAD OF THE DETENTION POND, AND THERE'S REQUIRED NOT ONLY FOR OUR PROPERTY, THAT ALSO FORWARD A EASEMENT THAT FUNDS FROM THE PROPERTY THAT WE WALKED FROM, WILLIAM, UH, FROM THE GREENBELT, UH, WITH A GREAT EASEMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAD DONE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A LOT OF PARKLAND JUST TO THE SOUTH OF, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THEY HAVE A VAN PARK IS THE WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENBELT IS EXPANDED ALL THAT WAY.
HOWEVER, WITH THE PROPERTY THAT IS ON PARKWOOD DRIVE THIS WHOLE FAIR INTERVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD, ISN'T A LARGE PORTION OF IT IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN AND ALREADY 28 PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN BOUGHT BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS IT WERE BEING CLEARED.
AND THIS WILL ALSO BE PARKLAND.
SO WE'RE VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THE PARKS AND THE PARK LANE, AND WE'LL DONATE THE LAND.
IT'S JUST, OUR PROBLEM IS WE PHYSICALLY CANNOT BUILD A PROJECT, 125 CONDOMINIUM UNITS THAT ARE ALREADY, PRE-SOLD GOTTA GET, UH, WE'VE GOT TO GET A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN BUILD THAT.
AND THEN WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH LACKING TUE.
IT'S ALREADY A SOMETHING UTILITY EASEMENT AND HAD PARKED DOWN IT AGGRESSIVE AT A MALL.
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DIDN'T PUT A PA DOWN THIS PDU IN 1986 WHEN IT WAS PLANTED.AND WITH THAT, UH, MR. MCCONNELL, ARE YOU FINISHED? SORRY.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, TAKE CARE OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING TO HAVE A MOTION.
UH, OH, COMMISSIONER YANEZ, PALITO.
I THINK THAT'S, UH, LET'S SEE.
WE'VE GOT, AND I'LL RECOGNIZE, UH, COMMISSIONER PRACTICES.
UM, YOU MAKE 13, WE HAVE 13 MEMBERS TO SAVINGS.
UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, COMMISSIONERS IT'S TIME FOR, UH, WE NOW GO AFTER HEARING THOSE, UH, FOR AND AGAINST.
WE MOVE INTO THE Q AND A, WE HAVE EIGHT SLOTS, FIVE MINUTES EACH, UH, FOR COMMISSIONERS STATUS QUESTIONS.
SO WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? UH, COMMISSIONER SHAPE.
UM, I'LL JUST DIVE INTO THE FIRST ONE.
I THINK REALLY THE COMMUNITY, UM, FOR JUMPING IN AND ENGAGING IN THE PROCESS, OFTENTIMES THIS HAPPENS AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH NO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
SO, UH, APPRECIATE EVERYBODY JUMPING IN.
NOW, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED HERE BECAUSE, UM, JIMMY, LIKE WHEN I'M DOING DEVELOPMENTS, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DO IS FIGURE OUT WHAT IN THE WORLD IS PARKLAND GOING TO REQUIRE FROM, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIVITY AS WELL AS PARKLAND DEDICATION.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THEY KNEW, SO STAFF WAS THAT LIKE WHEN THEY STARTED, DID THEY KNOW THAT THEY NEEDED TO PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY? SO STAFF, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT REAL QUICK? AND, UM, UM, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE RIGHT AFTER THAT IS GOING TO BE MORE OF THE, ABOUT THE LIABILITIES THAT ARE PRESENTED, BECAUSE AT THIS POINT NOW WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE OVERLAP AND THE OVERLAP OF USE IS HOW DO WE MITIGATE, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDER, UNDER THE TEXAS, UH, RECREATION USE.
I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THERE'S SOME HOLES IN THAT AND HOW, YOU KNOW, WITH THE STAFF SAYING THAT THEY LOOKED INTO IT, HOW ARE YOU MITIGATING THIS LIABILITY TO THE LANDOWNER? SO THOSE TWO THINGS, DID THEY KNOW ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY? NUMBER TWO IS HOW ARE YOU GUYS MITIGATING OR HOW ARE YOU GUYS ANSWERING, UM, AS FAR AS FOR THEIR RESEARCH AS FAR AS FOR THEIR LIABILITY.
UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SHEA, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
SO FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION, DID THEY KNOW, UH, YES, THEY DID.
WE HAD INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.
UM, LAST PART OF 2019 GOING INTO EARLY 20 AND, UM, THE, THE FIRST UPDATE, UM, THE FIRST UPDATE ZERO, UH, THE FIRST COMMENT PR ONE, THE PARKLAND MUST BE PROVIDED TO THE REAR OF THE SITE ALONG WILLIAMSON CREEK AND ACCESS PROVIDED FROM SOUTH CONGRESS.
SO THEY, THEY KNEW VERY EARLY IN THE PROCESS.
UM, SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION REGARDING, UM, THE OVERLAP AND THE, THE PLACEMENT OF THE EASEMENTS.
AND I WOULD JUST ASK THAT MY PRESENTATION BE PULLED UP AGAIN, AND WE COULD GO TO THE LAST SLIDE IN THE PRESENTATION NUMBER 16.
SO BASICALLY, UM, WE HAVE LOOKED AT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE AWARE THAT WE WERE, WE WOULD BE DEALING WITH SEVERAL THINGS BEING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ONE ANOTHER.
AND SO WE WANTED TO BE CAREFUL AND WORK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND ALSO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS WOULD WORK TOGETHER.
AND SO WE, WE ALSO WANTED TO BE CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT, UH, WE WOULD HOPE TO NOT IMPACT THE BUILDING OR THE AMOUNT OF PARKING OR THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT WERE IN THIS PROJECT.
SO WE WORKED WITH THESE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS IS MY, IS MY SLIDE COMING UP? YES.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S NOT MY PRESENTATION.
MINE WAS THE, UH, THE FIRST ONE.
SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE DIFFERENT WIDTHS OF THE, UH, THE LANES AND THE BIKE LANE AND THE SIDEWALK.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED TO SHOW? YEAH.
SO HERE, IT'S A 30 FOOT SECTION.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, MEASURING THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE IT, IT IS ABOUT 30 FEET.
IT IS BETWEEN THEIR BUILDING AS PROPOSED AND THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE SOUTH.
UM, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH TRANSPORTATION.
THEY SAID THAT THERE ARE TWO LANES COMING AND GOING.
UM, YOU GOT, I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE THAT THE CARS HERE, THEY'RE LOOKING LIKE THEY'RE BOTH FACING FORWARD, BUT ACTUALLY THEY'D BE, UH, OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS.
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A ENOUGH SPACE.THE NEXT, THE NEXT FIVE FEET, UM, IS ENOUGH FOR A FIRE LANE.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE FIRE LANE THAT EXTENDS 25 FEET FROM THE BUILDING, AND A BIKEWAY CAN BE INCORPORATED IN THAT WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THE FIRE REVIEWER AND HE HAS, UH, HE SAID THAT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
UM, THE PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY FIVE FEET.
SO THIS SECTION FITS WITH THEIR CURRENT SITE PLAN, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
I THOUGHT THEY ONLY HAVE 25 FEET.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THEY HAVE 30 FEET.
IS THAT RIGHT? HAVING MEASURED IT MYSELF HAVING MEASURED IT MYSELF.
I CAN SAY THAT IT'S 30 FEET NOW.
IS, IS IT 29 FEET? UH, IS IT 31 FEET? IT'S IT'S, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 30.
BUT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A CROSS-SECTION TO GET THIS SAFE PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, AND BEING THAT THERE'S A CURB, IT'S A PROTECTED CURB.
I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A PROTECTED PEDESTRIAN.
SO, UM, SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, I MEAN, NOW BACK TO THE APPLICANT, UH, CAN THE APPLE, IT, UM, KIND OF COMMENT ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYTHING FITS.
SO I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS.
I MEAN, OTHERWISE, I MEAN, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, I HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER IDEAS WE CAN COME UP WITH.
UM, BUT IT KIND OF GOES INTO SOME LEGAL, LEGAL APPROACHES TO REAL ESTATE.
UH, MR. MCKOWN OR MR. VERA, CAN YOU COMMENT ABOUT THIS SECTION RESEARCH COMMISSIONER? SOMEBODY ELSE WANTED TO PICK UP THE QUESTION, UH, COMMISSIONER HEMPHILL, VICE YOU'RE HELPFUL.
SO I'LL JUST CONTINUE WITH THE COMMISSIONER, SAY HIS LINE OF QUESTION ABOUT, UM, HEARING FROM THE APPELLANT.
SO, UH, THIS IS MICHAEL RIVETA.
UH, SO, UH, YEAH, I, I WOULD SAY WE HAD THAT KIND OF WIDTH AND, UH, PART OF THE SITE, BUT IF YOU GO UP ALONG, UH, CLOSER INTO THE, UH, LIKE THE, THE FRONT WHERE THE, UH, WHERE THE, THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING IS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE 30 FEET OF WITHIN THERE.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD DISPUTE THAT WE HAVE THAT MUCH ROOM.
WE HAVE 25 FEET AND IT GETS VERY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, WE HAVE THE CURB, WE HAVE A 25 FOOT WIDE DRIVE RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S ONLY ONE FOOT OFF THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE A SMALL LANDSCAPE AREA ALONG THE, UH, BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE PARKING, BUT IT'S VERY NARROW IN IT AND IT'S KIND OF A ODD SHAPE, BUT IT GETS VERY NARROW BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO LIKE A KIND OF AN S CURVE TO GET OUT TO THE DRIVEWAY.
THERE THERE'S AN EXISTING BILLBOARD THAT WE HAVE TO AVOID THAT, UH, WE'RE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO KEEP.
UH, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, SCOTT, I REALLY APPRECIATE WORKING WITH SCOTT, BUT SCOTT, YOU WERE A LITTLE OFF ON WE, WE COMMUNICATED IN LATE 2019, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR VIRTUAL MEETINGS UNTIL THE SUMMER OF 2020.
UH, WE, THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT ANYTHING ABOUT ACCESS WAS WHEN THE COMMENTS FIRST CAME OUT IN THE MARCH ISSUE.
AND IT'S JUST, YEAH, IT'S UNDER PR ONE, BUT IT'S LIKE, OH, ACCESS OR SOMETHING.
SO WE, WE STARTED COMMUNICATING ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT WAS IN 2020 LAST YEAR.
WASN'T IN 2019, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FEES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO, UH, I, I APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH ME, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE SOME OF THE INFORMATION CORRECT.
IN TERMS OF WHEN WE STARTED ABOUT ALL THIS IN TERMS OF CENSUS AND WHAT PARTS WOULD RECORD.
UH, ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSION? UH, VICE CHAIR.
HEMPEL UH, NO, THE QUESTIONS I WROTE DOWN AND THEY'VE BEEN, UM, UM, ANSWERING THEM ON THE WAY, SO SOMEONE CAN GO NEXT.
I WAS GONNA ASK, IS, IS THERE GOING OVER THIS? CAN WE HAVE PULL UP THE DRAWING SO WE CAN SEE THE VISUAL THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM EACH THE, THE DENIAL AND THE APPELLATE, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO SEE KIND OF THE OVERALL SITE PLAN WITH THE PARKLAND AND THE, UM, THE ACCESS.
THERE WERE A COUPLE THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, YEAH, NOT THAT, BUT THE, UM, AERIAL VIEW OF THE SITE THAT KIND OF SHOWS WITH, AND I BELIEVE THE APPELLATE ALSO HAD ONE WHERE THEY WERE SHOWING DETENTION POND AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THERE.
SO, UH, IF YOU CAN COMMISSIONERS JUST, UH, REQUEST, UH, THE SLIDE YOU WANT TO SEE
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WITH YOUR QUESTION.UM, SO COMMISSIONER, MUST DOLLAR, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION AT THIS TIME? NO, I'M, I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE DIFFICULTY IS IN DOING OKAY.
UH, SO LET'S, NOW I CAN'T SAY I CAN ALWAYS SEE, THERE WE GO.
WE'LL HAVE TO BRING IT BACK UP LATER.
COMMISSIONER COX, I THINK I SAW YOUR HAND.
I I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
30 FOOT SECTION, UM, AS STAFF, UH, CAME UP WITH IT IT'S, IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT CONCERNED ABOUT SPACE ISSUES, AND HONESTLY, PEOPLE ARE GONNA WALK WHEREVER THEY WANT TO WALK.
IF THEY'RE GOING TO WALK ON THE DRIVEWAY, IF THAT'S THE SPACE THAT'S GIVEN TO THEM.
SO I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, CHALLENGES WITH THE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE DETENTION POND AND THE, UH, THE TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS.
UM, I CAN'T TELL WHAT THE DEPAL GRAPHY LOOKS LIKE, BUT HAS HARD, UH, LOOKED AT THAT.
AND, AND DO THEY FORESEE ANY ISSUES WITH TRYING TO CONNECT BICYCLE AND, AND SIDEWALK DOWN TO THE TRAIL? UH, CONSIDERING THE TOPOGRAPHY, UH, THE DETENTION POND AND THE ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS.
THAT'D BE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR YOUR QUESTION.
UM, YES, WE HAVE LOOKED AT IT AND YES, WE DO SEE IT AS A CHALLENGE.
UM, LET ME BE CLEAR ON THIS POINT THAT, UH, WE ARE TRYING VERY HARD TO GET ADA ACCESS FOR THIS, THIS WHOLE WAY.
AND, UM, WE ARE, UH, WE SEE A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH IT.
WE HOPE TO WORK WITH THE CASE MANAGER TO, UH, WORK AMONGST THE DISCIPLINES, UH, FOR INSTANCE, UH, THE, UH, DRAINAGE AND WATER QUALITY AND TO BE ABLE TO GET, UH, TO GET DOWN TO THE, THE PARKLAND AREA, UM, ACROSS THAT AREA.
I CAN NOTE THAT WE HAVE MANY EXAMPLES OF HOW WE HAVE CROSSED OVER OUTFLOWS AND WE HAVE GONE OVER, UH, RAMPS.
WE HAVE GONE, WE HAVE TAKEN RAMPS DOWN TO A CERTAIN, UH, LOWER LEVEL.
UM, THE, THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET ADA ACCESS, BUT IF, IF ADA ACCESS IS SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE, UH, WE STILL WANT TO CREATE A PUBLIC ACCESS.
AND THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT'S, WHAT I WAS GOING TO MENTION WAS, UM, I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC ACCESS OR SOME SORT OF ACCESS WOULD BE GOOD JUST FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, IF NOT FOR A, A PARKLAND AND ACTIVITY PERSPECTIVE, UH, JUST IN CASE THERE'S SOMEONE INJURED OR IF THERE'S A FIRE HAVING THAT ACCESSIBLE.
I MEAN, IT IS A FIRE LANE, SO IT'S ACCESSIBLE ANYWAYS TO EMERGENCY PERSONNEL, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE POSITION WHERE, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I, I THOUGHT THIS WAS ABOUT PARKLAND DEDICATION.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S RESOLVED.
AND, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT THAT AREA TO BE PARKLAND.
I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IF, IF WE, IF WE APPROVE OR IF WE ALLOW PARDES OPINION TO GO FORWARD, I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE DEVELOPER IN A SITUATION WHERE HE HAS TO FORK OVER HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THIS MASSIVE CONCRETE, WHICH BACK RAMP IN THE BACK OF HIS PROPERTY TO GET ADA ACCESS.
AND, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW, FROM THE TEXAS ACCESSIBILITY STANDARDS PERSPECTIVE, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT CONNECTIVITY IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A SIDEWALK.
SO IS IT A SITUATION WHERE WE'LL STAFF JUST HAVE THE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT, BUT NOT REQUIRE THE SIDEWALK TO BE CONSTRUCTED IF IT BECOMES SUCH A, A COST OR FEASIBILITY ISSUE? HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THIS? UM, THANK YOU.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.
I THINK THAT THE, UM, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THE, THE, THE APPEAL HERE TONIGHT IS REALLY AN APPEAL OF THE REQUEST TO PAY FEE AND LU, UH, RATHER THAN PARKLAND DEDICATION.
AND SO THAT, THAT IS REALLY, UH, WHAT PART LOOKS AT, UH, USING OUR CRITERIA.
UM, A LOT OF THESE, THESE OTHER QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN, UH, INTERESTING, AND I THINK THAT THEY WILL BE, UH, IMPORTANT TO THE ULTIMATE
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SITE PLAN APPROVAL, BUT, UH, NOT THE CENTRAL QUESTION, UH, IN, IN TERMS OF, IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, IT'S DO, WOULD WE REQUIRE A, AN ADA CONNECTION TO GET TO PARKLAND.AND, AND I THINK THAT, UM, IF I, WE DO NOT HAVE IT IN, IN THE CODE CURRENTLY TO SAY THAT ALL, ALL TRAILS NEED TO BE ADA ACCESSIBLE AND ALL ALWAYS NEED TO BE ADA ACCESSIBLE.
WE TRY OUR VERY BEST TO MAKE AN ADA CONNECTION TO PARKLAND.
UM, AND, AND SO IN THIS CASE, WE WOULD, WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE CASE MANAGER AND OTHER REVIEWERS TO TRY TO BUILD THAT CONNECTION IN.
UM, AND IT, IT ALSO WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD PREVENT THE SITE PLAN FROM BEING APPROVED BY CODE.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? QUESTION COMMISSIONER OR KAREN SHAW? I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY TIME IS.
I'M GOING TO GO AND, UH, TAKE, UH, THE FOURTH QUESTION HERE, BUT I'LL LEAD OFF WITH JUST, UM, W UH, WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSIONERS.
UM, THE, SO OUR, OUR CHOICES ARE TO UPHOLD PART'S DECISION DENYING THE END LU, UH, TO REVERSE PARTS DECISION, UH, AND ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO PAY A FEE AND LIEU FOR ALL THE LAND REQUIRED TO BE DEDICATED UNDER SECTION 25 DASH ONE, SIX OH TWO, OR REVERSE PARTS DECISION, AND ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO PAY A FEE IN LIEU FOR A PORTION OF THE LAND REQUIRED TO BE DEDICATED UNDER SECTION 25 DASH ONE SIX OH TWO.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS WE'RE CONSTRAINED TO THIS EVENING.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS FOR STAFF, IF WE CAN, WE IS THE, UM, ACCESS WAY, UH, IS THAT PART OF THE LAND THAT'S CONSIDERED IN THE FIELD LOO, UM, UH, EQUATION AND IF, AND IF WE WERE TO, UH, REMOVE THE ACCESS, UH, ON THEIR PROPERTY AND STILL, UH, ALLOW FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PARKLAND TO BE DEDICATED, UM, THAT IS, IT APPEARS TO BE ONE OF THE OPTIONS WE HAVE THIS EVENING.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
UH, SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UH, THAT IS NOT AN OPTION THAT YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, THE PER CODE, THE REQUIREMENT IS THAT PARKLAND WOULD BE CONNECTED AND WOULD HAVE ACCESS WOULD HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS TO IT.
NOW, UM, THE IDEA THAT THERE WOULD BE THE, THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS THAT THERE, THE, UH, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION IS ACTUALLY NOT TAKING PLACE ON THE ACCESS EASEMENT.
UH, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION IS, IS THE, THE PART IN THE BACK OF THE SITE, WHICH IS THE GREEN PART.
UM, AND, UH, SO IF, IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES TO GO WITH SOMETHING THAT LIMITS THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, YOU WOULD BE CUTTING INTO THE GREEN, YOU WOULD NOT BE CUTTING INTO THE, THE ACCESS EASEMENT ITSELF.
THAT, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
SO THE, WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT'S A REQUIREMENT TO, UM, TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE PARKLAND.
SO REALLY THIS THIRD OPTION FOR US IS JUST TO LIMIT IT'S REALLY, WE DO HAVE THE OPTION TO LIMIT THE, THE AMOUNT IN THE GREEN AREA IS ONE CHOICE WE'RE GIVEN, BUT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE ACCESS.
SO YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
UH, DO WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER WITH, UM, UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? I FINISHED HER, UH, CAUDALIE.
I SAW YOUR HAND FIRST FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.
THOMPSON CAN GO FIRST IF YOU WANT.
I GUESS I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF ABOUT THIS, UH, UTILITY EASEMENT THAT'S SEEMS TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE EASEMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT IS, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY THAT, THAT SOMEONE COULD TAKE ACCESS TO THAT UTILITY EASEMENT IN THE FUTURE? UM, CAN YOU HEAR ANY COMMISSIONERS AT CAMP? OKAY.
SO, UM, SO, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT COULD BE AN OPTION IN THE FUTURE,
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BUT THERE IS NO CERTAINTY OF THAT OPTION.UM, THE EXISTING, UH, THAT, THAT EASEMENT EXISTS ON ANOTHER PROPERTY, UH, DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH.
UM, IT'S, IT HAS A DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP, AND IT ALSO DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC ACCESS ON IT.
SO FOR IT TO BE, UH, CONSIDERED AS PART OF THIS SITE, IT WOULD NEED TO BE OWNED BY THIS SAME OWNER, AND IT WOULD NEED TO BE PART OF THE SITE PLAN, AND IT WOULD ALSO NEED TO HAVE A PUBLIC ACCESS PUT OVER TOP OF THAT, UH, PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT.
UM, IT, IT CANNOT SIMPLY JUST BE USED AS PUBLIC ACCESS IN ITS EXISTING STATE.
IT WOULD AN ADDITIONAL EASEMENT TO, TO WORK.
SO THEN JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND EXACTLY THE, THE STATE WE'RE IN, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A PRETTY DETAILED SITE PLAN RIGHT NOW WITH, WITH PRE-SALES OF 125 UNITS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I, WE ACTUALLY, IN THE STATE OF, THEY HAVE A FINAL VERSION THAT'S GOING TO GET BUILT, AND THERE'S NOT REALLY TOO MUCH THAT CAN CHANGE WITH THAT, OR ARE WE STILL VERY, YOU KNOW, ARE WE STILL EXPLORING OPTIONS? AND THAT THERE'S STILL DIFFERENT WAYS OF ACCESSING THIS TRAIL THAT WE HAVEN'T WELL, UH, LET ME BE CLEAR THAT, THAT, UM, THE, THE OPTION THAT I I SHOWED EARLIER, THE CROSS SECTION IS, IS NOT OUR A HUNDRED PERCENT PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE.
OUR, OUR PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO HAVE A COMPLETELY SEPARATE FACILITY THAT HAD, THAT WAS COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE DRIVEWAY, COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM THE FIRE LANE AND, UH, PERHAPS RAILED OFF.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THAT THIS IS, UH, THIS IS OFFERED AS SOMETHING THAT, THAT CAN OVERLAP WITH SOME OF THESE REQUIREMENTS, UM, THE IDEA OF, OF WHAT CAN MOVE ON THE SITE.
I MEAN, AS A FORMER SITE PLAN REVIEWER, I'VE SEEN THAT SITE PLANS CAN BE CLOSED SEEMINGLY CLOSE TO THEIR FINAL STAGES.
AND A LOT OF THINGS CAN MOVE ON THE SITE PLAN.
UM, THE PONDS CAN MOVE, DRIVEWAYS CAN MOVE, UH, AN OUT AN OUTFALL RECENTLY MOVED.
SO I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN WORK AS, AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST WEEKS WITH TRANSPORTATION AND FIRE, THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
IF, IF WE, IF WE DID THIS AND WE GOT AN EASEMENT, BUT IT WASN'T AN ADA EASEMENT AND THEN A YEAR OR TWO YEARS LATER, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY DEVELOPS.
AND AT THAT POINT, IT'S SORT OF A BETTER OPTION FOR AN EASEMENT WHERE IT COULD BE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SEPARATED AND RAILED OFF SEPARATELY FROM THE FIRE LANE, ET CETERA.
UM, AND THAT COULD PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF ADA ACCESS TO THE CONNECTING TRAIL.
COULD WOOD WOOD PARK WANT TO DO THAT AT THAT POINT? AND THEN JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, FORGET ABOUT THE EASEMENT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
UH, THERE'S UNCERTAINTY NOW ON THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND ANY ANYONE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT SUBMITTED, BUT TO YOUR QUESTION, UH, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL ADA ACCESS, UH, MORE ACCESS TO THE GREENBELT, UH, IN, IN ALL ALONG AND FOR PROPERTIES ALL ALONG SOUTH CONGRESS AND REALLY ALL ALONG THE ENTIRE GREEN BELT, GREEN BELT, JUST TO OPEN IT UP TO MORE PEOPLE.
AND, UM, THE, THE, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S UNCERTAIN WHERE THAT THAT ACCESS WOULD BE COMING.
BUT IF THAT PROPERTY, THE SOUTH DID DEVELOP, UH, YES, WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL ACCESS THERE.
YEAH, MY QUESTION IS FOR, UH, SOMEONE FROM COMMUNITY POWERFUL WORKSHOP, IF THEY'RE STILL ON THE LINE, I'M NOT SURE IF, UH, CHAVONNE OR MARA IS ON THE LINE.
IT MIGHT NOT BE ONLINE ANYMORE.
YEAH, LET'S GET, UH, MR. RIVERA, DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY OF THE, UM, MR. UH, MR. TONNATO OR MRS.
HI, JOPLIN FROM COMMUNITY HARDWARE SHOP I'M HERE, IF THAT'S FINE CALLED NICOLE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
YOU GUYS DID HIGHLIGHTING STORIES FROM THE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
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AND, AND THE WORK YOU GUYS DID ENGAGING WITH THEM.UH, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR PROCESS AROUND ENGAGING WITH THE, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THIS, UM, HOW MANY, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE PART OF THAT, AND IF, UH, YOU COULD JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UH, WHAT, WHAT SOME PEOPLE FELT AND THOUGHT ABOUT THIS TRAIL ACCESS.
UM, WE'VE, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY HAD TO SHIFT A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PLANS THROUGH 2020.
UM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HOST A SERIES OF VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
WE HAVE ALSO, UM, OPENED UP AN ONLINE PLATFORM TO RECEIVE, UH, INPUT AND FEEDBACK FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON SPECIFIC INSTRUMENTS.
THEY'D LIKE TO SEE ALONG THE GREENWAY, UM, AND HAD WENT THROUGH A WHOLE PUBLIC VOTING PROCESS, UM, WHERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS COULD KIND OF SUBMIT IDEAS AND VOTE UP AND DOWN THOSE IDEAS AND THOSE IDEAS WERE DIRECTLY TRANSFERRED INTO THE VISION PLAN.
UM, WE'VE HAD A SERIES OF MEETINGS WHERE, UM, RESIDENTS ARE INVITED TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE DRAFT VISION PLAN, AND WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, AND THEN ARE SET TO SUBMIT TO THE PARKS BOARD AT THE END OF MAY FOR, FOR THEIR, UM, UH, CONSIDERATION.
UM, SO I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE, UM, ENGAGED THROUGH EACH OF THOSE PLATFORMS, BUT WE HAVE, WE HAVE RECEIVED THOUSANDS OF COMMENTS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE ALONG THE GREENWAY.
UM, AND I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY, ANY COMMENTS THAT DON'T WANT TO SEE A CONNECTED AND ACTIVE GREEN SPACE.
UM, PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT VISIONS FOR WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, AND WE HOPE THAT WE'VE SORT OF HELPED TO SHAPE A PROCESS WHERE THOSE VISIONS CAN, CAN COME TO GET THERE AND THIS PLAN, UM, BUT WE'VE, UH, BEEN WORKING WITH A GROUP OF COMMUNITY RESIDENTS OR COMMUNITY WORKING GROUP THAT WAS ATTRIBUTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS AND ALSO, UM, A COMPANION WORKING GROUP FROM THE CITY WITH CITY, UH, VARIOUS CITY APARTMENTS, UM, CITY DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED IN THE MANAGEMENT OF THIS LAND.
UM, SO WE FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
AND, UM, ALTHOUGH WE HAVEN'T SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS SITE IN A PUBLIC MEETING, UM, THERE IS OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FOR CONNECTIVITY, UM, ACROSS THE GREENWAY AND PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE GREEN SPACE.
THE COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE ANYBODY ELSE, UH, COMMISSIONER SNYDER JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON'S QUESTION, LET'S SAY THAT, UH, THE APPELLANT AND, UH, DEVELOPER AROUND THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, UM, GET A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT, UH, AVAILABLE FOR, UH, PARKLAND ACCESS.
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR THE APPELLANT IN THIS CASE TO COME BACK AND REQUEST THAT THE CITY VACATED EASEMENT, UH, ON THE FIRE LANE? HMM.
CAN YOU HEAR ME COMMISSIONERS? YES.
UM, SO GIVEN THAT THERE IS A, UM, I THINK THAT THEY, THEY CAN REQUEST TO VACATE AN EASEMENT, UM, THE PROCESS FOR THAT.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT.
UM, AND HONESTLY, ACTUALLY, I'VE, I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT, UH, UH, AN, UH, ONE OF THE CITY LEGAL ON THE LINE TO, UH, MARY.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU THERE, ARE YOU ABLE TO, UH, TO CHIME IN MS.
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ALL RIGHT.HI, THIS IS MARY MARRERO, UH, WITH THE CITY LAW DEPARTMENT.
UM, SO I HAVE TO BE HONEST, THIS IS A QUESTION THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.
UM, I AM NOT AWARE OF A REASON WHY, WHY THE ACCESS? YEAH.
WHY DO PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT COULDN'T BE VACATED IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF PART WERE PRESENTED WITH A SATISFACTORY ALTERNATIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE, PERHAPS THROUGH THIS, UH, LAND TO THE SOUTH, I AM NOT AWARE OF A LEGAL REASON WHY, WHY YOU COULDN'T DO THAT.
UM, BUT I GUESS I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THE CAVEAT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH BEFORE I ABSOLUTELY DEFINITIVELY GAVE THE COMMISSIONER, GAVE THE COMMISSION THAT ANSWER.
UM, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO LOOK INTO SO THAT I CAN EAT MORE, UM, CONFIDENTLY ABOUT MY HANDS THAT'S THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH.
I EXPECT THAT WE'LL MAKE A DECISION ON THIS TONIGHT, BUT, UM, I KNOW WE'VE HAD OTHER VACATION REQUESTS THAT WE'VE APPROVED, UM, AND I GUESS, UH, ONE DIFFICULTY WITH, UM, DENYING THE, UH, DECISION, UH, PART WOULD BE THAT THERE, IT REMOVES ANY INCENTIVE FOR THE APPELLANT TO, UM, UH, ACTUALLY GET, UH, NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, UH, TO WORK WITH THEM FOR AN EASEMENT.
UM, UH, I, MR. GRANTHAM IN YOUR, IN THE BACKUP THAT WE GOT, UH, AHEAD OF TIME, THERE WERE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF CASES THAT WERE SIMILAR TO THESE, UM, AND ATTENDED LIKE SOME WERE HAPPENING NOW.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US TO HELP UNDERSTAND THIS CASE? SO LIKE, UH, ARE YOU RUNNING INTO SIMILAR PROBLEMS WITH THOSE OR ARE, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT LIABILITY? SO PROMINENT? HMM.
UM, SO IF, UH, MY PRESENTATION COULD BE BROUGHT UP AGAIN, UM, IT'S LIKE THE SECOND TO LAST SLIDE IN THAT PRESENTATION AND IT'S SIMILAR CASES.
SO BASICALLY, UH, MR.
SO WE'VE GOT, UM, UH, 15, 15 SOUTH LAMAR, 13, 11, SOUTH LAMAR TECH RIDGE, UH, CAMERON ROAD PARK.
UH, THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF PLACES WHERE, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE DEALT WITH ISSUES WHERE WE HAD PARKLAND IN THE BACK OF THE SITE THAT NEEDED TO BE REACHED VIA PUBLIC ACCESS.
AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SIMILAR QUESTIONS OF HOW WILL THIS WORK, WILL THERE BE, UM, CAN THESE THINGS BE OVERLAID? AND, UH, THE ANSWER THAT WE FOUND IN ALL THESE CASES IS YES, THEY CAN, THEY CAN BE OVERLAID.
AND, UH, ANY COMMENT ON, I ASSUME YOU'RE NOT HEARING FROM THEM, UH, ABOUT, UH, THESE LIABILITY CONCERNS.
UH, SO I HAVE TO BE HONEST, UH, LIABILITY IS A WORD WE'VE HEARD A FEW TIMES, AND BASICALLY, UH, IT IS NOT PART OF THE CODE.
UH, IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE REVIEW FOR.
IT IS NOT A CRITERIA THAT WE USE.
AND, UH, THE IDEA THAT I THINK IT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ONE THAT JUST KIND OF COMES UP.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE HAVE, UH, ASKED ABOUT.
AND, UH, OUR, OUR MAIN CONCERN IS, IS REALLY BEING ABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO REACH THE PARK, UM, THROUGH AN EASE AND THE IDEA THAT WE'VE GOT, UH, EXISTING EASEMENTS THAT GO THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SO REALLY, UM, THERE ARE MANY, UH, AS MR.
UH, PEOPLE USE THEM, UH, THEY SERVE THEIR PURPOSES, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WHERE SOMEBODY'S, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CAUSING A MAJOR LIABILITY ISSUE IN THE CITY AS IT STANDS.
BUT IT'S NOT, WE'RE AT A TIME FOR THAT QUESTION.
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IF A COMMISSIONER WAS JUST ASKED THE QUESTION, UH, COMMISSIONER MS. STONER, AND WENT BACK THROUGH OUR NOTES AND PULLED UP.I LIKE LOOKING AT THOSE AERIALS IN THOSE IMAGES.
I'M CURIOUS THIS OTHER REFERENCED UTILITY EASEMENT THAT'S ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY, UM, IS THAT, IS THAT EASEMENT RUNNING ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY LINES BETWEEN THESE TWO PROPERTIES? AND IF THE ANSWER IS YES, WHY HAVEN'T WE MADE A MOVE TO SEE ABOUT GETTING ANOTHER, UM, THIS MAY BE A QUESTION CITY LEGAL AND, UM, A JOINT USE AGREEMENT FOR THAT EASEMENT, IF IT ALREADY EXISTS FOR THE UTILITIES, AND IT MAY NOT BE GEOGRAPHICALLY LOCATED.
CAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT WHERE THEY WERE SHOWING THEY WANTED THE ACCESS TO GO IN BEHIND THE PROPERTY AND ALONG THAT BLUFF LINE THAT RUNS, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF THAT PARK SPACE DEDICATION.
SO THERE THERE'S STILL SOME ACCESS ISSUE EVEN BACK BEHIND THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING TO SEE IF IT'S ADJACENT, IF IT'S EVEN FEASIBLE.
UM, QUESTION FOR STAFF, IS THAT A QUESTION FOR STAFF? I'M NOT SURE WHO THE BEST PERSON IS TO FEEL THAT I'M SORRY.
I PRESUME IT'S A STAFF QUESTION BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING ABOUT THE UTILITY EASEMENT ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY AND NOT FOR THE APPELLATE.
THANK YOU FOR THIS, YOUR DATA.
THE EASEMENT IS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
UH, I THINK THAT THE MAIN QUESTION IS THAT IT'S NOT PART OF THE SITE PLAN.
IT'S NOT PART OF THE, UH, IT'S NOT OWNED BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, IN THIS CASE, IT IS IT'S OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH.
BUT THERE'S ANY EXISTING EASEMENT THERE FOR UTILITIES AND THEY'RE THERE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, MULTIPLE USES FOR AN EASEMENT.
SO IF THAT GIVES THE SAFER SPACE TO CREATE THIS, I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT IN TANDEM WITH THIS PROJECT.
UH, WE CERTAINLY WILL, AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN REVIEW, UM, WE, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S PART OF THE SITE.
UM, IF THAT WE'VE COVERED SOME, SOME IFS ON, ON THAT BEFORE, IF, IF THE PROPERTY OWNER WERE TO ACQUIRE THAT PIECE AND IF A, AN ACCESS EASEMENT WERE TO BE PLACED ON IT, THEN, THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT IT.
BUT, BUT THOSE, UM, THAT SITUATION HAS NOT OCCURRED.
COMMISSIONER, THIS IS MARY MARRERO AGAIN FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT.
MAY I, UM, BRIEFLY ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION? THANK YOU.
SO TO ME TRULY, I, I'M NOT SURE WHETHER YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT THIS BE THAT, THAT THIS BE THE ACCESS FOR THIS SITE, OR YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT THIS, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS BE ANOTHER, UH, AN ASPIRATIONAL POSSIBLE ACCESS POINT THAT COULD BE ADA ACCESSIBLE.
SO I GUESS, I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS, ARE YOU, ARE, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THIS TH TH THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS LAND TO THE SOUTH, HAVING THE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT AUDIT FOR THE SITE IN QUESTION, I AM, I AM ASKING ABOUT THAT LAND THAT'S ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, IF IT'S ADJACENT TO, TO THE APPLICANT PROPERTY, NOT NECESSARILY FOR ADA, ONE OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ASKED, UH, I THINK COMMISSIONER COX HAD ASKED THAT, AND THAT WE GOT THE CLARIFICATION, THAT THAT'S NOT A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT TO THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS.
SO WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT MAYBE A BETTER ACCESS POINT THAT IS A LITTLE BIT SAFER AND GIVES MORE SPACE, BUT STILL PROVIDES THE NEED TO GET FOR THE GOALS ON PART, RIGHT? SO THERE'S, I SEE TWO, UM, TWO ISSUES OR PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
THE FIRST IS THAT, YOU KNOW, PAUL, YOU KNOW, PARTS COULD IN THEORY, APPROACH THE LAND, THE LAND OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO THEMSELVES AND ASK IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, SELL OR GRANTED EASEMENT TO PART ON THEIR PROPERTY.
BUT PART HAS ABSOLUTELY NO AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE AN EASEMENT.
THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD SIMPLY BE UP TO THE ADJACENT LAND OWNER BECAUSE THAT, AGAIN, ONCE THAT'S COMES IN FOR DEVELOPMENT, THEN THAT WOULD BE A TIME THAT CHARGE COULD POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, BE IN A PLACE TO REQUIRE ACCESS, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT PROPERTY.
BUT AS IT STANDS NEXT FALL, ALL PARTS TO DO WAS APPROACH THE OWNER AND ASK.
AND MAYBE THE OWNER SAYS YES, AND, OR, AND MAYBE HE
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SAYS NO, OR MAYBE HE SAYS YES TO AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR IT.BUT I THINK THE MORE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM IS THAT THE APPLICANT, IF THE, THE, THE ACCESS REQUIREMENTS MUST BE SATISFIED ON SITE.
SO IF, SO, IT GETS HARD TO NOT ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO DEDICATE THE LAND IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY AND NOT PROVIDE ACCESS ON SITE THAT WOULD NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION.
SO YOU CANNOT, YOU CANNOT, YOU CANNOT, THE CODE DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO PROVIDE OFF-SITE ACCESS, UM, FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, LAND THAT'S BEING DEDICATED.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH, WITH THAT IDEA.
UM, I DO SEE, WE HAVE ONE MORE, I COUNTED WRONG.
AND I SEE COMMISSIONER IS, ARE, IS YOUR HAND RAISE FOR A QUESTION? I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.
UH, WELL LET'S, WHY DO WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE MOTION? NOPE, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, HEAR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER IS OUR THANK YOU CHAIR.
SO GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE UPHOLD BOARD'S DECISION AND DENY ANYTHING.
SO THAT WOULD BE JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, THAT WE'RE VOTING AGAINST, UH, IS UPHOLDING PART'S DECISION.
NO, WE'RE VOTING IN FAVOR OF HOLDING PARTS.
I KNOW JUST FOR THIS, UH, THE, THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, IF YOU I'M JUST SAYING, IF YOU VOTE FOR IT, UM, UH, TELL ME IF I'M BEING CLEAR, IF YOU VOTE FOR IT, YOU'RE GONNA BE IN FAVOR OF THE APPELLANT'S REQUEST IF YOU VOTE AGAINST YOUR UPHOLDING PART'S DECISION.
SO THE MOTION IS TO, UH, THE, UH, POLAR PART'S DECISION TO MAKE IT EASY.
SO THAT'S THE MOTION SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CONLEY AND, UM, CLARIFICATION.
SO THE, THE, LET ME, UH, GO TO OUR ITEM HERE.
SO THE, THE, UH, IT'S A PART APPEAL.
SO THIS IS THE APPELLANT, UH, REQUESTING AN APPEAL TO THE PAR DECISION.
SO IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE APPEAL, RIGHT, IF YOU VOTE FOR THIS ITEM, WELL, NOT FOR THE MOTION FOR THIS ITEM WOULD BE, UH, BOATING.
YOU WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE APPELLANT THAT THE MOTION, THE MOTION TO BE CLEAR, THE MOTION IS TO VOTE FOR THE UPHOLDING, THE DIRECTOR'S DECISION.
THE MOTION IS TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE TWO APPALLED, THE DIRECTOR'S DECISION.
THAT'S I THINK THE CLEAREST WAY TO REPEAT THE MOTION OR RESTATE THE MOTION.
DOES EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT? I'M SORRY.
AND WE HAD A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LANE.
DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO HER MOTION? COMMISSIONER? BIZARRE.
UM, SO I THINK WE HAVE A CLEAR PATHWAY IN FRONT OF US.
WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN DO.
ONE IS UPHOLDING THE DIRECTOR'S DECISION, WHICH IS WHAT THIS MOTION IS.
AND THE OTHER WOULD BE TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO GO WITH A PARTIAL OR COMPLETE FIELD VIEW.
AND WE'RE MAKING THIS DECISION ON FIVE DAYS A YEAR.
AND THOSE BEDS ARE YOU GUYS, IS THIS LOCATED WITHIN A PARK DEFICIENT AREA? OUR STAFF HAS SHOWED US OUR DEFICIENT PARK AREA MAP, AND IT IS CLEARLY WITHIN THAT AREA.
SO CAN WE SET A REQUIREMENT? IS IT ADJACENT OR EXISTING PARTNER IN OUR STAFF HAS SHOWED US THE MAP AND PLAN AND THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN ABOUT IT.
IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO ADJACENT PARKLAND OF SIMILAR NATURE.
SO IF YOU SET GREG A YEAR, THE THIRD GRADE, YOU GUYS DOES IT HAVE SUFFICIENT ANCHORAGE TO MEET THE STANDARDS FOR DEDICATED PARKLAND.
AGAIN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT DEVELOPED AND STAFF THEMSELVES HAVE SHOWN US AND TOLD US THAT, YES, IT MEANS SECRETARY OR THE INSUFFICIENT ANCHORAGE.
THE FOUR POINT IS, IS NEEDED FOR A CRITICAL NEED FOR PARKLAND DO REMEDY DEFICIENCY.
AGAIN, OUR STAFF HAS SPOKEN TO IT.
I THINK OUR COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN TO IT IN A VERY ROBUST MANNER AND HAS REALLY MADE THAT CASE.
SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GO BY AND THEN FIFTH AND LAST ONE IS, DOES IT PROVIDE INCREASED CONNECTIVITY WITH EXISTING OR PLANNED PARKS? AND I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THAT RIGHT OF WAY, UM, DEDICATION
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THAT PUBLIC EASEMENT IS PART OF THAT INCREASED CONNECTIVITY AND IT'S SORT OF CRITICAL.SO I WOULD ESSENTIALLY SAY THAT UPHOLDING THE DIRECTOR DECISION IS A CLEAR AS WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH THE CRITERIA.
AND I THINK OUR STAFF AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAVE CLEARLY SHOWN TO US THAT INDEED WE HAVE MET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
UM, AND STAFF HAS MADE THE CORRECT DECISION IN THIS REGARD.
AND THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT AND OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY POWER PORSCHE FOR THEIR DILIGENCE IN MAKING THE CASE FOR THIS.
COULD YOU HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST THREE MINUTES UNLESS YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR MR. SHEA? SO, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT SEEMS LIKE OUR HANDS ARE PRETTY MUCH TIED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SPELLS OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO HERE, BUT, UM, I THINK THERE'S THIS PROBLEM WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH OUR CODE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE ALL BEEN TRYING TO REACH FOR SOME TYPE OF INNOVATION OF BEING ABLE TO USE, UH, LIKE FOR INSTANCE LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EASEMENT ON THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
IT'S UTILITIES, RIGHT? AND THEN NOW WE'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE BECAUSE WE NEED ADA ACCESS.
AND WE THINK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, A NEW COMMISSIONER HAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, A JOINT USE AGREEMENT CAN GIVE US MORE SPACE, MAKE IT EVEN A BETTER PUBLIC ACCESS AND EVEN MAYBE MAKE IT SAFER ON EVERYBODY'S SIDE YET.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE STUCK AND WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION BASED UPON WHAT I LOOK AT IS LACK OF PLANNING FOR THE AREA.
I MEAN, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS CORRIDOR AND LOOKING AT IT AS WHERE SHOULD THESE ACCESS POINTS BE, RIGHT? AND SO IF WE USE SMALL AIR PLANNING, HEY, WE HAVE A COMMITTEE FOR THAT.
WE HAVE PEOPLE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN OUR DEPARTMENT THAT LETS US WHILE YOUR PLANNING, IF WE APPROACH IT THAT WAY, WE CAN LOOK AT IT AS MORE OF A ZOOM OUT, LOOK AT IT AS A COHESIVE THING ABOUT ACCESS TO THE PARK.
BECAUSE NOW AT THIS POINT, THE WAY THE CODE SAYS IS THAT EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY WHO'S GOING TO DEVELOP, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR ACCESS, ACCESS, ACCESS, AND EACH ONE'S GOING TO BE VERY KIND OF BARE, YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE FIVE, 10 FEET, WHATEVER, BUT HERE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT NICE.
BUT THE GOOD THING FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD IS THAT OUR DECISION MOVING FORWARD STILL GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR APPELLATE AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY THE NEIGHBOR TO COME TOGETHER AND STILL BACK TO US.
NOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
AND MAYBE THEY COULD DO THAT BEFORE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT GOES FOR LONG, BUT AT LEAST THERE'S STILL A PATHWAY, BUT AT THIS POINT WE'RE KIND OF TIED, BUT OUR CODE AGAIN, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, OUR CODE LACKS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR INNOVATION AND THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT YET.
SO ANYWAY, SO HOPEFULLY GOING FORWARD FROM HERE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL LOOK AT IT MORE AS A PLANNING EXERCISE, MOVE FORWARD IN A MORE LOGICAL, UM, WAY.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S, THAT'S MY, SO I LIKED THAT WAS A, FOR ME, IT'S A REALLY GOOD PITCH FOR BEING ON THE SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE TOO.
SO ANYWAY, UH LET'S UH, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE, UH, ANY MEMBERS SPEAKING AGAINST THIS ITEM, UH, COMMISSIONER COX, I SAW YOUR HAND, IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE OF A NEUTRAL COMMENT.
UH, I I'M, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT, I GUESS, PUT IT ON THE RECORD THAT I'M GOING TO VOTE TO UPHOLD HARD DECISION, BECAUSE I THINK PARKLAND DEDICATION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND THEY'VE MADE THE BEST CASE THEY COULD PROBABLY MAKE FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION IN THIS, IN THIS AREA AND THE COMMUNITY, UH, DID, DID SO AS WELL.
UM, BUT I, I, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING COMMISSIONER SAY SAYS ABOUT THE ISSUES AND SPECIFICALLY HOW IT RELATES HERE BECAUSE THIS ACCESS SUCKS.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A FACT.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO SQUEEZE THIS SIDEWALK AND BIKE LANE WHERE IT REALLY DOESN'T FIT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A DESIRABLE PLACE TO BE BECAUSE IF I, I THINK THAT THE DUMPSTER RIGHT THERE, AND THEN WE'VE GOT A DETENTION POND AND THEN WE'VE GOT A BILLBOARD IN THE WAY.
AND SO I JUST HOPE THAT STAFF, UM, USES VERY REASONABLE FLEXIBILITY ON HOW TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE CODE WITHOUT MAKING THE CODE, TURN THIS INTO SOME REALLY STRANGE MUTILATED MONSTER.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY, BUT I, I WILL VOTE TO UPHOLD THE PARKLAND DEDICATION.
ANY MORE COMMISSIONERS FOR, AND AGAIN, A FINISHER, UM, VICE CHAIR, HEMPHILL, SEE YOUR HAND.
UM, YEAH, JUST ONE BRIEF POINT.
AND THAT I DON'T THINK HAS BEEN MADE YET IS, UM, I HEARD TONIGHT, WELL, THERE'S A CONNECTION THAT'S FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD OR ONE THAT MIGHT COME IN THE FUTURE AND THEY CAN HANDLE THE CONNECTION.
BUT WHAT I WANT TO MAKE A POINT ABOUT IS THAT THERE CAN'T BE TOO MANY CONNECTIONS TO THIS OPEN SPACE.
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CONNECTION ON THE POINT TO THE SOUTH AND THEN ANOTHER ONE, YOU KNOW, 200 FEET UP, THAT'S GREAT.THAT'S EVEN BETTER FOR ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO THIS GREENBELT.
SO, UM, I, I WILL BE VOTING TO UPHOLD PARDES DECISION.
COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST, DO I HAVE ANY MORE? ALL RIGHT.
SO, UH, THE MOTION BEFORE US IS TO UPHOLD PARDES DECISION, WHICH IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS ITEM.
UH, SHOW ME YOUR GREEN ITEMS FOR GREEN FIRST AND I'LL COUNT.
SO THAT'S UNANIMOUS, I COUNT 13 ZERO, BUT THANK YOU WERE VERY THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION.
AND NOW, UM, LET ME GET MY BEARINGS HERE.
WE AGREED EARLIER TO HEAR STAFF, UM, AS THE APPLICANT
[Items B12. - B14. (Part 2 of 2)]
ON ITEMS B 12, 13 AND 14, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IN TANDEM IF I UNDERSTAND.UH, SO THEY WILL BE GIVEN A TOTAL OF, UM, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY A TOTAL OF 12 MINUTES TO RUN THROUGH BOTH THEIR, UM, PLAN AMENDMENT PRESENTATION, AS WELL AS THE ZONING PRESENTATION.
AND JUST BEFORE WE KICK THIS OFF AND START THE CLOCK STAFF, CAN YOU TELL ME, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ADEQUATE TIME CAUSE WE ARE, WE'RE BUNDLING THREE ITEMS HERE.
IS THIS ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU TO GET THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATIONS? WE HAVE SOME, UH, WHO'S A LEAD SPEAKER FROM STAFF.
YEAH, I THINK WE CAN MAKE, GET THROUGH IT AND, AND WE'LL UNDER THAT, LAURA, DO YOU THINK SO? YES.
WE PREPARED FOR THAT AMOUNT OF TIME SO WE CAN GO THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN ASK YOUR QUESTIONS FOR THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL DETAIL.
SO WE'RE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, UH, WHO'S GOING TO START US OFF AND THEN WE'LL START THE CLUB WHO'S STARTING, UM, LARGE HEATING.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT ON, UH, THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
I WILL BE PRESENTING ON THE PLANET AMENDMENT AND THE SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND MARK WILL BE PRESENTING ON THE LAND USES.
UM, THIS PRESENTATION WE'LL GO OVER THE MAJOR CHANGES TO BOTH THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN AND THAT USED TO 11TH AND 12TH STREET NCCD.
UM, SO IF WE WANT TO GO TO SLIDE FOUR DEVELOPMENT ALONG EAST 11TH AND 12TH STREET ADJACENT TO EITHER 35 IS CONTROLLED BY THE PLAN AND ZONING ORDINANCES.
CURRENTLY THE 11TH STREET MTCB, WHICH IS NEARLY 200 PAGES LONG IS NOT ALIGNED WITH THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN.
COUNCIL INITIATED THE 11TH STREET NCCD ZONING CASES TO BRING THE TWO INTO ALIGNMENT AND TO MAXIMIZE THE VALUE OF URBAN RENEWAL AGENCY OWNED PROPERTIES WHILE CONTINUING TO PROMOTE THE VISION SET BY THE COMMUNITY IN A MULTI-YEAR EFFORT, THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD MADE A RECOMMENDATION ON MODIFICATIONS EARLIER THIS YEAR.
SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, AS YOU CAN SEE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PLAN AND THE NCCD ARE MOSTLY ALIGNED WITH THE 11TH STREET AND CCD EXTENDING BEYOND THE PLANNING AREA ALONG 35 AND ROSEWOOD AVENUE MAJOR CHANGES TO THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN INCLUDE REPLACING THE DEFINITION SECTION WITH THE LAND USE SECTION, UPDATING THE PLAN MODIFICATION PROCESS TO ALIGN WITH THE REZONING PROCESS, REORGANIZING SECTIONS, REMOVING OUTDATED INFORMATION AND ADDING INFORMATION ABOUT CHANGES TO THE AREA SINCE THE PLAN'S ORIGINAL ADOPTION AND FINALLY ALL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY FOUND IN BOTH THE PLAN AND THE NCCD WE'LL DO YOU LOCATED IN THE NCCD AND ADOPTED BY THE PLAN? SO I'LL, WE'LL GO OVER THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR BOTH MPTG AS A POSITIVE, OVER TO MARK TO TALK ABOUT.
LINDSEY SAYS BEGINNING WITH EAST 12TH STREET, THERE ARE NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO HEIGHT
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AND PREVIOUS COVER SETBACKS OR COMPATIBILITY COMPATIBILITY IS CURRENTLY WAIVED BY THE 12TH GNCC D IN TERMS OF FAR.CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO LIMITS FOR ANY PROJECTS WITHIN THE PLAN.
PROJECT AREAS SHOWN IN PINK AND THE PROPERTIES OUTSIDE OF THOSE AREAS ARE SUBJECT TO THEIR BASE ZONING.
THE RECOMMENDATION REMOVED FAR LIMITATIONS FOR THE ENTIRE NCCD.
NOW LOOKING AT THE 11TH STREET, UM, WE'RE ON SLIDE 11.
THIS MAP SHOWS THE, THE CURRENT SUBDISTRICT REGULATIONS FOR SUBJECT SUB-DISTRICTS THREE REMAIN THE SAME, EXCEPT FOR THE REMOVAL OF SAR AND LIMIT THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION.
AND WE'LL FOCUS ON THE OTHER SUB JESTER CURRENTLY IS DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE THE REGULATIONS FOR PROPERTIES BECAUSE THE PLAN HAS STANDARDS WHICH DIFFER FROM AND SUPERSEDE THE MCCB.
THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION, CHANGES THE BOUNDARIES OF THE SUBJECTS AND ORGANIZES THEM MORE OR LESS AROUND STREET FRONTAGE.
THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT PROPERTIES ALONG ROSEWOOD AVENUE WILL NOW BE SUBJECT TO THEIR BASE ZONING STANDARDS.
THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE WHERE A STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION DIFFERS FROM THE BOARD BECAUSE THIS CHANGE WOULD LEAD TO SOME NON-CONFORMING USES AND A REDUCTION IN ENTITLEMENT FOR SOME PROPERTIES.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THESE PROPERTIES REMAIN IN SUB DISTRICT ONE AND TWO.
IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS AREA IS OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN.
ALSO, THESE ISSUES WERE NEVER BROUGHT TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION AND STAFF ONLY DISCOVERED THEM AFTER THE BOARD MADE ITS FINAL RECOMMENDATION.
CURRENT, I THINK OUR REGULATIONS ARE VERY COMPLICATED, COMPLICATED, AND MAY DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE SITE OR THE USE OF THE SITE.
THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS REMOVE FAR FROM SUB-DISTRICTS ONE, TWO AND THREE, AND SUB DISTRICT FOUR BASE ZONING STANDARDS WOULD APPLY.
HOWEVER, STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING THE SUBDISTRICT BE CREATED.
CURRENT HEIGHT MAXIMUM ALSO DIFFER BETWEEN THE PLAN AND THE NCCD.
THIS MAP SHOWS THE EFFECTIVE HEIGHT LIMITS, THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION AND APPLIES HEIGHT LIMITS BASED ON CONTEXT, ALLOWING FOR A STEP DOWN FROM THE CORRIDOR.
STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ONLY DIFFERS BY THE PROPERTIES ALONG ROSEWOOD AVENUE.
I'M RECOMMENDING THAT THESE RETAIN THEIR HEIGHT, ENTITLEMENT AND PREVIOUS COVER MAXIMUMS REMAIN PRIMARILY THE SAME IN ONE AND SUB DISTRICT ONE, THERE'S CURRENTLY A DIFFERENT STANDARD FOR NEW VERSUS EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.
A SINGLE STANDARD FOR THOSE PROPERTIES IS RECOMMENDED.
ALSO THE CURRENT MCTD HAS ITS OWN COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS.
THE PROPOSED NCCD ADOPTS THE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE RELATED TO NOISE SCREENING AND PLACEMENT OF PARKING OR EQUIPMENT, BUT IT WAIVES THE STANDARDS RELATED TO HEIGHT AND SETBACKS BECAUSE THESE STANDARDS HAVE BEEN APPLIED WITHIN THE NCCD BASED ON CONDUCT CONDUCT.
NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MARK TO TALK ABOUT LAND USES.
THE, UH, NCCD IS, UH, SET UP THREE TYPES OF USES WITHIN EACH OF THE NCCD IS PERMITTED PERMITTED WITH SPECIAL CONDITIONS OR CONDITIONAL.
UH, SO USE IS LISTED IN THE DRAFT URBAN RENEWAL PLAN AND THE NCCJ BY REFERENCE OR THE ONLY ONES POSSIBLE.
SO IF A YOUTH IS NOT LISTED, IT ISN'T ALLOWED.
SO A PERMITTED USE IS ONE OF THOSE USES IT'S ALLOWED WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS IT'S ALLOWED BY, RIGHT.
A PERMITTED WITH CONDITIONS USE ALLOWS YOU USE, BUT IT MUST BE DONE UNDER SPECIFIC CONDITIONS, SUCH AS NOT ALLOWED ON A GROUND FLOOR OR ONLY ALLOWED ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
AND CONDITIONAL WOULD REQUIRE A PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL JUST LIKE IT CURRENTLY DOES FOR ANY CONDITIONAL USE IN THE CITY FOR EACH OF THE CORRIDORS COVERED BY THE INSTANCE CDS, UH, THERE'S A GENERAL GOAL OF ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE USES.
SO FOR EAST 12TH STREET NCC, THE, THE GOAL WITH THE USES AND WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IS TO CREATE A SMALLER SCALE
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NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE DISTRICT WITH OFFICES SHOPS AND RESIDENTIAL USES.SO IF YOU LOOK HERE AT THE GOOGLE IMAGE HERE, IT'S LOOKING WEST TOWARDS DOWNTOWN ON THE LEFT, YOU HAVE HOUSES ON THE RIGHT.
THAT'S THE KIND OF VISION FOR EAST 12TH STREET THAT THE USES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS REQUIRING OR ATTEMPTING TO FOSTER.
IF YOU GO OVER TO 11TH STREET, WHICH IS A VERY DIFFERENT GOAL, A DIFFERENT, VERY, VERY DIFFERENT SET OF OUTCOMES.
UH, EAST 11TH STREET IS INTENDED TO BECOME, UH, UH, DINING, UH, SHOPPING AND ENTERTAINMENT, DESTINATION, OR DISTRICT.
SO TO PROMOTE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, ACTIVE COMMERCIAL USES ON THE GROUND FLOOR ARE REALLY ENCOURAGED.
AND SO EVEN WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THESE HAVE MORE TRANSPARENT GLASS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THROUGH, UH, THE IMAGE THAT YOU SEE HERE IS A BUILDING EXACTLY ON 12TH STREET, REGARDLESS OF WHAT ONE MIGHT THINK OF THE ARCHITECTURE.
THIS BUILDING REALLY DOES ILLUSTRATE THE, THE, THE GOALS OF THE GROUND FLOOR.
YOU HAVE TRANSPARENT WINDOWS AND SHOPS, SECOND FOUR, YOU HAVE OFFICES.
AND THAT I THINK AT THE TOP FOUR, YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL USE.
SO REALLY CREATING THAT ACTIVE PEDESTRIAN SPACE ON THE FIRST FLOOR IS REALLY PART WHERE THESE GOALS ARE COMING FROM.
YOU GO TO THE, TO, UH, TO SUBDISTRICT, TO HAVE, UH, THE 11TH STREET IN CCD.
IT'S REALLY MORE OF A, IT'S A LONG JUNIPER STREET, TWO TO THE NORTH OF 11TH STREET, EAST 11TH STREET.
IT'S MOSTLY A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITH TOWNHOUSES APARTMENTS AND SO FORTH, BUT IT DOES ALLOW FOR MEDICAL OFFICES AND DAYCARES SMALL SCALE, UH, USES THAT AREN'T GREAT TRAFFIC GENERATORS AND, AND, AND THE DAYCARE IS USED, ALLOWED ON JUNIPER ARE MUCH SMALLER SCALE DAYCARE IS NOT THE LARGER, UH, REALLY LARGE COMMERCIAL TYPE DAYCARES.
UM, AND SO DISTRICT THREE, LAURA MENTIONED IS REALLY AN AMALGAMATION OF FOUR DIFFERENT ORDINANCES COMBINED INTO ONE.
AND THESE REPRESENT, UH, THE, THE, THE LARGE-SCALE DENSE DEVELOPED ALONG THE FRONT OF ROAD AND THE USES REMAIN UNCHANGED FOR THEIR CAUSE.
THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN COVERED OR ADDRESSED THROUGH A CANCEL ACTION VIA THE MINUTE TRACKED FOR A PROPERTY SOUTH OF 11TH STREET OR NORTH OF 11TH STREET WITH A FRED GROW BETWEEN 11TH AND 12TH, HOUSTON, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN CONSTRUCTION OR FINISH OUT.
AND THEN THE LAST DISTRICT THAT A BOARD WAS RECOMMENDING AND WERE STAFF DIFFERS IS THE EAST IS THE SUB DISTRICT FOUR, WHICH IS REALLY A MIX OF SINGLE FAMILY AND SMALL BUSINESSES, WHICH INCLUDES FRONTAGES ALONG ROSEWOOD AVENUE AND ALONG NAVASOTA AND ST.
WE ARE, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT THE, THE BOARD WENT TO GREAT PAINS TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT EXISTING USES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, WHO HAVE A HISTORY IN THE COMMUNITY WILL NOT BE MATING INFORMING, BUT THAT, THAT THOSE USES ARE ENOUGH OF THOSE USES AND THAT ANY MORE OF THOSE MIGHT THROW THE
SO FOR EAST 12TH STREET, THERE'S TWO LONG-TERM LONG A FUNERAL HOMES.
SO THOSE CARVE-OUTS WERE MADE FOR THAT AS WELL AS ON 11TH STREET, THERE'S A MASON'S BLOCK.
SO A CARVE-OUT WAS MADE FOR THAT.
SO YOU CAN SEE EXAMPLES WHERE SPECIFIC CALL-OUTS WERE MADE, AND PARTICULARLY WITH THE, WITH THE COCKTAIL LOUNGES, THAT THERE WAS A CONCERN EXPRESSED BY THE COMMUNITY THAT, UH, THEY DIDN'T WANT A PROLIFERATION OF BARS THAT THE ONES THAT ARE THERE ADD TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT ANYMORE COULD BE A DETRIMENT TO THE, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE OF EXISTING RESIDENTS.
UM, AS LAURA SAID THAT WE STAFF HAS A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT WAS CREATED SUB-DISTRICT FOUR, BUT UPON REFLECTION, UM, THAT SOME OF THE USES THAT NCCD THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED ON 11TH STREET WERE, WERE, WERE UNIQUE TO 11TH STREET, AND THAT PRECLUDED THEM FROM OCCURRING ON ROSEWOOD AVENUE.
SO, UH, STAFF CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION.
THE THING THAT ALL OF THE SUB DISTRICT ONE USES ALONG ROSEWOOD WOULD BE ALLOWED WITHOUT ANY OF THE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES THAT APPLY TO EAST 11TH STREET.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, ON EAST 11TH, THE OFFICES ARE ALLOWED EITHER IN HISTORIC BUILDINGS OR UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR, BUT AS ROSEWOOD AVENUE KIND OF TRANSITIONS DOWN IN INTENSITY FROM 11TH STREET GROUND-LEVEL OFFICES WOULD BE, WOULD BE, WOULD BE FINE AS, AS 11TH STREET TRANSITIONS ALONG ROSEWOOD TO THE MORE RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO CARVER AND TO KEEP HEALING MIDDLE SCHOOL INTO
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THE HOUSES OF THAT THAT ARE ALONG ROSEWOOD AVENUE.AND THAT'S THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION.
WE WOULD HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, RIGHT.
UM, NEXT WEEK, UH, WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS THAT ARE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THEM, AND I BELIEVE PER OUR MOTION, DID WE AGREE? WE'RE GOING TO, UH, DEFER QUESTIONS UNTIL A FUTURE MEETING.
SO LET'S GO IN HERE FROM, I THINK IT'S, UH, IF I GET IT RIGHT, AUSTIN, IS IT, UH, FEISTER OR FEASTER? STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.
AND I'LL HOLD BACK ON COMMENTS.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE EVOLUTION ON THIS, SO I'LL JUST, WAIT, THANK YOU THOUGH.
UH, WELL, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK YOU, UH, YOU AND THE NEXT AUSTIN, UM, SPEAKER, HOUSE AND BERRY, AND THAT'LL BE IT FOR THIS EVENING, IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE AUSTIN BARRY, UH, STAR SIX AND MUTE WELL BACK ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOT THROUGH THERE, BUT, UH, I JUST, AUSTIN BARRY, AND, UH, I'M ALSO GOING TO REFRAIN ON COMMENTS AS I UNDERSTAND.
IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EVOLUTION ON THIS.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, THAT BRINGS THAT ITEM TO A CLOSE.
UM, WE WILL, UM, WE WILL, SO AGAIN, UH, QUESTIONS TO STAFF, UM, BY OUR NEXT MEETING, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE, UH, CONTINUE THIS, UH, MAY 25TH.
I THINK I NEED TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND AS I SAID, WE'LL POSTPONE ACTION, UH, FOR A FUTURE DATE OF MAY 25TH, UH, SEE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COX ENDED BY SECONDARY BOXES OR SHEA QUESTION.
I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION.
CAN WE KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN SO THAT THOSE PEOPLE CAN COMMENT ONCE? YEAH.
UM, MR. RIVERA, I THINK WE WE'VE GOTTEN TO CLOSE IT, BUT WE CAN, CAN REOPEN IT AT A LATER DATE.
HOW, UM, I RECALLED THIS COMING UP IN THE PAST CHECK COMMISSION LIAISON ADVERSELY.
YOU WANT TO INDICATE THAT YOU DID HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT BY THOMA ROLES, THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SIGN UP TO SPEAK WILL STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
SO WE ARE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THE SPEAKERS CAN STILL SPEAK AT OUR NEXT, UM, AND OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO ASK TO HAVE Q AND A, BECAUSE THAT COMES AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION COMMISSIONER YANA.
UH, SO WE WILL BE, UH, WELL, WE'D BE HAVING A NEW PUBLIC HEARING WHEN THIS WAS BROUGHT UP AGAIN, SO THAT ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS CAN SIGN UP.
MR. RIVERA, I THINK WE'RE ONLY THE SPEAKERS THAT ARE SIGNED UP CURRENTLY.
SO IF WE WANTED TO KEEP IT OPEN, UM, HOW LONG CAN WE KEEP THIS OPEN FOR SURE.
ANYONE WHO SIGNS UP FOR THE ITEM WHEN THE ITEM IS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION, AS THIS IS A POSTED NOTICE, A PUBLIC HEARING, THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
AND CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? UM, I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR, UM, COMMISSIONERS TO SUBMIT THEIR QUESTIONS EARLY AND OR SOMETIME BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN IT GETS TAKEN UP, UM, SO THAT THEY MIGHT BE POSTED JUST SO THAT WE CAN, I KNOW THERE'VE BEEN HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF MEETINGS AROUND THIS, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF PROCEDURALLY, WE COULD HAVE, UH, A WAY TO SHOW THOSE QUESTIONS SO THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PREPARATION IN ADVANCE.
WHAT, WHAT I'LL DO IS WE'LL SEND OUT A, A SPREADSHEET WHERE COMMISSIONERS CAN SUBMIT THEIR QUESTIONS.
AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE ASKED, AND I THINK, UH, SO IF YOU'RE ASKING IF THEY CAN BE DONE PRIOR TO
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THE 11TH, WHICH IS THE DEADLINE WE HAD IN OUR MOTION.SO I, WE, WE ASKED HER, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO ASK, WE'RE NOT TAKING IT UP UNTIL THE 25TH, RIGHT? YES.
BUT QUESTIONS WILL BE DUE BY THE 11TH.
SO THOSE WILL BE POSTED THEN WITH YOUR MEETINGS.
IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY, PERFECT.
SO, UM, THE, I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I SEE COMMISSIONER SHAY SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER YANA, SPOLETO.
ALL RIGHT, LET ME SEE YOUR GREEN.
I MAY HAVE MISSED IT IN MY APOLOGIES.
DID WE POSTPONE THE ITEM TO A DATE? YES.
SO LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT SIDE.
[C1. Presentation by Danielle Moline, Project Coordinator, Austin Transportation Department, 512-974-6407, and possible action to provide comments to staff regarding the update to the Transportation Criteria Manual (Co-Sponsors: Commissioner Thompson and Chair Shaw)]
HAVE, UH, C1.WE HAVE A PRESENTATION BY THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, ON THIS ONE, I KNOW IT'S ALREADY EIGHT 50, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A, UH, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT MOTION AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS, BUT I'D LIKE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND THAT WOULD TAKE A SUPER MAJORITY, AND IT WOULD JUST ALLOW EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS NOT LIMIT US TO EIGHT QUESTIONS, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW EVERY COMMISSIONER, UH, TO HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, I, I'M MAKING A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES THIS EVENING AND ALLOW EACH COMMISSIONER TO ASK A QUESTION, UH, ON, AFTER THE PRESENTATION DO I HAVE, UM, IT'S OKAY.
I HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COX.
AND SO IF I COULD SEE GREEN FOR THOSE IN FAVOR.
SO THAT, UH, WE WILL, WE DON'T HAVE TO I'LL ASK QUESTIONS, BUT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY ON THIS IMPORTANT ITEM TO ASK HER QUESTIONS.
UH, AND WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH, I HAVE A, IS IT DANIELLE DANIELLA MYLENE, NOLENE, OR MOLINA STAR SIX TO MUTE? NOPE, I DID GOOD, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
UM, IT'S ACTUALLY DANIELLE MORIN FROM ATD SERVICE.
UM, LIKE I SAID, MY NAME IS DANIELLE MOREN.
UM, I'M A PROJECT COORDINATOR HERE WITH THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE TRANSPORTATION MANUAL PROJECT.
UM, I'M ALSO GOING TO BE JOINED BY OUR CONSULTANT WITH KIMBERLY HORN AFTERWARDS, HELP ANSWER, UM, PROBABLY SOME OF THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE.
UM, THIS IS JUST KIND OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT IS THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL? UM, BASICALLY IT'S A DOCUMENT THAT'S USED BY, UM, DESIGN PROFESSIONALS WHEN DESIGNING TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
UH, BASICALLY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OUTLINES WHEN A PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, THIS TYPICALLY INCLUDES NEW DEVELOPMENTS AND, UH, REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, UH, BUT IT ALSO DOES INCLUDE SMALLER PROJECTS AS WELL.
UM, SO THE TCM PROVIDES THE SPECIFIC DESIGN CRITERIA IN THESE SITUATIONS.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY FOLLOWS THE TCM DESIGN CRITERIA WHEN WE DESIGN, UM, AND INSTALL OUR OWN TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, I ALWAYS LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, UH, OUR CURRENT TCM WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE 1980S AND A WHOLE LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN.
UM, A LOT HAS NECESSITATED THIS MAJOR UPDATE, UM, AND IT'S MEANT TO REFLECT BASICALLY THE LATEST NATIONAL STANDARDS.
AND IT'LL BRING IT UP TO DATE WHILE ALLOWING SOME FLEXIBILITY DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS.
UM, THE TCM UPDATE PROJECT BASICALLY HAS BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT FOR OVER TWO YEARS.
UM, WE ACTUALLY BEGAN IN EARNEST IN 2017 WHEN WE FIRST ROLLED OUT THE AUSTIN THREE DESIGN GUIDE, UH, THAT HELPED US FINE TUNE SOME TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE MANUAL.
UM, IN 2019, THE CITY ADOPTED THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES A MOBILITY GOALS THAT WE'VE INCORPORATED INTO THIS UPDATE.
UH, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME GOING BACK AND FORTH AND, UH, COORDINATING WITH MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS OVER THIS PERIOD.
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UM, IN NOVEMBER OF 2020, WE PUBLISH A SPEAK-UP AUSTIN WEBSITE, WHICH ALLOWED FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENTS.UH, THIS WAS IN AN EFFORT TO ENSURE THAT, UM, OUR DOCUMENT COVERS MAJOR ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
UH, WE THEN INCORPORATED MANY OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AS POSSIBLE TO CREATE AN UPDATED TCM DRAFT DOCUMENT, WHICH WE THEN PRESENTED TO ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS THROUGH THE FORMAL RULES POSTING PROCESS ON FEBRUARY 2ND.
UH, SINCE THAT DATE WE'VE ACTUALLY, UH, REMAINED IN THE INTERDEPARTMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS, UH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, UM, UM, ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH VARIOUS OR WITH A FEW CITY DEPARTMENTS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE TCM ISN'T CONFLICTING WITH ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT WANTS TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UH, SO THE, THE CITY'S PORTABLE RULE POSTING PROCESS IS BASICALLY USED AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN PUBLIC FEEDBACK, UM, AND TO ENSURE THAT OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE AWARE OF THE PROPOSED RULE CHANGES, UH, THE TCM FALLS INTO THIS CATEGORY, UM, AND WE ARE ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THESE SPECIFIC STEPS BEFORE ANY CHANGES CAN BE MADE.
UH, SO TO BEGIN A PROPOSED CHANGES IN HOW TO ALSO DO DEPARTMENTS AND THE INTERDEPARTMENTAL REVIEW PERIOD BEGINS, UH, THAT'S THE PERIOD THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN.
UM, SO DURING THAT PERIOD DEPARTMENTS REVIEW THE CHANGE AND WE COLLABORATE TO ENSURE THAT THE RULE CHANGES DON'T CONFLICT WITH ANY OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.
UM, ONCE THIS PHASE IS COMPLETE AND WE GET SIGN OFF FROM ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS, THE PROPOSED RULES THEN POSTED FOR A FORMAL PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD, WHICH LASTS 31 DAYS.
UH, DURING THIS TIME THE PUBLIC CAN REVIEW, UH, THE PROPOSAL WILL CHANGE AND, UM, PROVIDE COMMENTS TO STAFF AFTER THIS 31 DAY PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD STAFF THEN REVIEWS ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, WE MAKE ANY FINAL EDITS, AND THEN WE PRESENT OUR DOCUMENT TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
THAT'S SLIDE SIX, JUST TO RECAP, WE POST, WE POSTED OUR PUBLIC TCM DOCUMENTS FOR AN INFORMAL PUBLIC REVIEW.
THIS PAST NOVEMBER, WE RECEIVED OVER 1200 COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS GREAT.
UH, STAFF THEN SENT THE MONTH OF JANUARY, EXCUSE ME, WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANTS TO ANALYZE THE COMMENTS AND INCORPORATE THE CHANGES WHERE WE FELT APPROPRIATE.
THE NEXT SLIDE IS SLIDE SEVEN.
UM, SO THE SLIDES OUTLINE SOME OF THE MAJOR COMMENTS, THEMES THAT WE GOT FROM THE PUBLIC.
UM, WE GOT A LOT OF COMMENTS, UM, FOR SECTION TWO, RELATED TO SIDEWALK INVITES, PHONE PLACEMENT, UM, COMING THROUGH RELATED TO SECTION THREE AND FIVE INCLUDED CONCERNS RELATED TO, UM, DESIGN OF BICYCLE FACILITIES.
UH, WE ALSO GOT A LOT OF COMMENTS RELATED TO FUTURE RAIL TRANSIT.
UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS RELATED TO, UH, STREET IMPACT FEES AND HOW THAT WILL RELATE TO, UH, THE MITIGATION PROCESS.
WELL, I HAD EIGHT OUTLINES, UM, SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THE INTER DEPARTMENTAL REVIEW PERIOD.
UH, SO ATD MET WITH, UH, VARIOUS CITY DEPARTMENTS TO DISCUSS, UH, ANY MAJOR CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD.
UM, SECTION ONE, WE RECEIVED A LOT OF COMMENTS RELATED TO, UH, THE WAIVER PROCESS THAT WE'VE UPDATED THE TCM TO ADD A MORE CLEAR WAIVER PROCESS.
UH, SECTION TWO, WE MADE SOME EDITS TO ENSURE THAT THE CORRIDOR PROGRAM DESIGN STANDARDS WILL HAVE A PLACE IN THE TCM.
UH, SECTIONS THREE, AS AN UPDATED TO ADD NEW BICYCLE FIGURES, SECTION SIX NOW HAS PLACEHOLDER LANGUAGE, UH, FOR PROJECT CONNECT.
AND THEN LAST WEEK, UH, WE HAVE INCLUDED STREET IMPACT VIEWS INTO THE TCM, THE SECTION NINE, OR SORRY, SLIDE NINE.
UM, SO LIKE I MENTIONED, WE'RE STILL IN THE INTERDEPARTMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS, UH, WORKING THROUGH SOME LAST MINUTE, UM, DISCUSSIONS WITH A FEW CITY DEPARTMENTS.
ONCE WE, UM, CAN COME TO A CONSENSUS, WE WILL BE FINALIZING OUR DRAFT DOCUMENT.
UH, AND THEN WE HOPE TO POST FOR PUBLIC REVIEW.
I KNOW THIS SLIDE SAYS, UM, MID APRIL, BUT HOPEFULLY, UM, MID OR LATE MAY, AND THEN SLIDE 10.
UM, JUST LET YOU KNOW HOW YOU CAN STAY INVOLVED.
UM, WE DO STILL HAVE OUR SPEAK-UP AUSTIN SITE, WHICH WE WILL BE POSTING UPDATES TO.
UH, WE DO HAVE A STAKEHOLDER EMAIL LISTS, WHICH WE WILL ALSO KEEP PEOPLE UPDATED.
UM, AND YOU CAN ALWAYS EMAIL US AT TRANSPORTATION CM AT AUSTIN, TEXAS.COM AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
SO, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START, UM, QUESTIONS FROM MISSION, UH, WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST
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LOOKING FOR HANDS? LET'S SEE.SO I WAS INTERESTED IN, UH, UNDERSTANDING LIKE, AS IT RELATES TO A TCM IN CASES WHERE THERE'S NO CORRIDOR PLAN, THEN OBVIOUSLY I UNDERSTAND WHERE IT WAS A CORRIDOR PLAN.
IT SUPERSEDES THE TCM, BUT LIKE IN CASES WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPLETE STREETS, IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE APPLICABLE IN CASES EVEN WHERE THERE'S NO CORRIDOR LAYING OR PROGRAM? UM, YEAH, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BASICALLY THE TCM WOULD BE USED FOR, UM, ALL CITY STREETS, UM, AND THE TCM RE CROSS SECTIONS, UM, SHOULD REFLECT THE SMP, UM, REQUIREMENTS.
AND JAKE, I THINK, IS ON THE LINE.
HE MAY BE ABLE TO CHIME IN AS WELL.
UM, YEAH, DANIELLE SAID IT RIGHT.
IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY APPLICABLE TO ALL STREETS WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
UM, SO ALL OF THE STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE FOR COMPLETE STREETS ARE INCORPORATED THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT TO, UH, IMPLEMENT THE VISION OF THE S AND P IS MENTIONED.
THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION HERE, YOUR IMMEDIATE APOLOGIZE, TRYING TO MULTITASK, UH, HIS NEXT BED.
IT'S OUR FIRST, ANY MORE COMMISSIONERS COMMISSIONER, UH, CUTS.
I'M JUST CURIOUS THAT IN THE PRESENTATION MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE CONTINUING ISSUES THAT YOU'RE WORKING OUT, UM, AND YOU GIVE US KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT THOSE ISSUES ARE AND, AND THE POTENTIAL CHANGES, AND THEN THE LINE OF RESOLVE WITH, YEAH, IT'S BEEN AN INTERESTING COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UM, WE'VE WORKED THROUGH SOME ISSUES WITH PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, AND THEN CURRENTLY WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A COUPLE ISSUES WITH AFG, UM, MOSTLY REGARDING STREET WITS AND CURB RETURNED RADIO.
UM, SO THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE ONGOING.
UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING TO FIND CONSENSUS BETWEEN BOTH DEPARTMENTS SO THAT WE CAN, BOTH DEPARTMENTS CAN ACHIEVE THEIR MOBILITY AND SAFETY GOALS.
IS THAT JUST MAKING A GUESS HERE DOES, UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WANT LARGER RADIO AT THESE INTERSECTIONS, AND OFTEN TRANSPORTATION'S TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO REDUCE THAT, TO REDUCE THAT.
YEAH, I MEAN, HISTORICALLY, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE REQUIRED FOR DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY, UM, ONES THAT ARE KIND OF FLAGGED, UM, FOR SPECIAL DESIGNED BY ASD.
SO, UM, YEAH, WE WE'VE, I BELIEVE WE'VE WORKED THROUGH OUR ISSUES WITH PUBLIC WORKS, UM, THAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO WORK THROUGH, UM, SOME COLLABORATIONS WITH AFG I'M CURIOUS, UM, BEING, BEING ON THE CONSULTANT SIDE OF THINGS, UM, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN FROM CONSULTANTS THAT WORK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS OVERRIDING THEMES OF THEIR COMMENTS? DO THEY THINK THAT THIS, THIS UPDATE'S GOING TO HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT TO THEIR WORK? DO THEY THINK COSTS ARE GOING TO INCREASE OR IF THIS IS GOING TO MAKE THEIR LIVES EASIER? UM, ARE THERE ANY DOMINANT THEMES THAT YOU'VE GOTTEN FROM THEM? YEAH.
OVERALL, UM, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED HAS BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE, BOTH FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC.
UM, I THINK PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU USE THE CURRENT TCM, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE.
UM, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY SORT OF FLEXIBILITY WITHOUT GETTING LOTS OF WAIVERS.
UM, IT DOESN'T REALLY REFLECT OUR CURRENT MOBILITY GOALS.
SO, UM, OVERALL IT IS UPDATED IS VERY MUCH NEEDED.
AND SO FAR THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED HAS BEEN VERY POSITIVE.
UM, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S SOMEBODY WHO'S USED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE CURRENT TCM AND SEE THE EVOLUTION.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE THE NEW EVOLUTION OF IT.
I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE OLD ONE ALMOST LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY XEROX SOMETHING AND XEROX AND XEROX AND JUST SHOVED IT IN, BUT
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THE NEW ONE, UM, REALLY INCORPORATES QUITE A BIT INTO IT.AND I COMMEND, UH, STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY FOR COMING OUT AND HELPING TO CREATE IT.
I THINK FOR ME, UM, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, UM, ONE OF IT IS COMING ABOUT FROM WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH, UH, CODE NEXT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE DIFFERENT STANDARDS.
AND, UM, IN THE TCM, I KNOW ONE OF THE BIG IDEAS WAS TO TAKE THE STANDARD PRACTICES, RIGHT.
AND WHEN I, WHEN I'M THINKING OF STANDARD PRACTICES, ARE WE LOOKING AT STANDARD PRACTICES, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE OLD WAY WE THINK OF STANDARD PRACTICES IN LIKE THE NEW PROGRESSIVE THOUGHT OF LIKE URBAN ENVIRONMENT, RIGHT? BECAUSE HERE IN AUSTIN, YOU KNOW, W WE HAVE A LOT OF STREETS THAT ARE PRETTY NARROW, A LOT OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE SUBURBS THAT ARE THERE AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH A ONE SIZE FITS ALL IS, IS QUITE DIFFICULT.
AND SO I KNOW FOR ME, I STARTED LIKE RESEARCHING, LIKE, OKAY, WELL, WHAT ARE THESE TOURNAMENTS? WHAT DO WE NEED LIKE THIS? AND, UH, LIKE FOR FIRE TRUCKS AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND WE WERE GOING BY THE BIGGEST STANDARD, RIGHT.
AND IT'S LIKE, IS THAT THE STANDARD THAT WE'RE APPLYING TO? OR ARE WE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE I STARTED RESEARCHING OTHER CITIES THAT HAD A LOT MORE URBAN, MIXED ENVIRONMENTS, AND THEY ACTUALLY STARTED CHANGING THE ASPECTS.
LIKE INSTEAD OF THE HUGE FIRETRUCKS, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ACTUALLY USE SMALLER ONES, UM, AND PROVIDED, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THEY INNOVATED TO FIND A WAY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE, MORE DENSITY, MORE PEOPLE TOGETHER, A MORE PROGRESSIVE APPROACH.
SO THE STANDARD THAT WE ABUSED, WHAT IS THAT STANDARD? I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S KIND OF THE SAME, YOU KNOW, DIMENSIONAL.
IS THAT KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT? DANIELLE? I CAN TAKE THIS ONE FOR YOU.
SO, UM, I'M TRYING TO RECALL IF THIS IS THE, UH, PUBLIC DRAFT FROM NOVEMBER OR ONE OF THE INTERNAL ONES, BUT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING DIFFERENTLY, ESPECIALLY IF YOU LOOK AT SECTION THREE OF THE NEW ANIMAL ON GEOMETRIC DESIGN CRITERIA IS, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING THE APPROACH OF DESIGN AND CONTROL VEHICLES, UH, AND TO EXPLAIN SIMPLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UH, IN ESSENCE, WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING LIKE A PASSENGER CAR CAN ADEQUATELY NAVIGATE, UH, AT, AT A, AT A SLOWER SPEED AND THEN ACCOMMODATE LARGER CONTROL VEHICLES FOR THINGS LIKE INTERSECTION TURNS, UH, AND, UM, ACCOMMODATING LANE WITH SOMETHING INSIDE TO BE 10 FEET.
AND THEN IT TRANSITS EXPECTED, UH, MAKING SURE THERE'S A 11 FEET FOR TRANSIT VEHICLES IN COORDINATION WITH CAPITAL METRO.
SO, UM, AND YOU MAY SEE SOME PLACES, WE HAVE HEARD A DECENT AMOUNT ABOUT, UH, SHOWING LIKE A 12 AND A HALF FOOT LANE, AND THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE IN LINE.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UM, THAT AUSTIN USES ASPHALT CONSTRUCTION WITH CURB AND GUTTER.
AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S EFFECTIVE LANE WIDTH FOR TRANSIT AND THE FEATURE ON THE OUTSIDE OF 11 FEET.
I KNOW THAT'S A VERY DETAILED COMMENT THAT I'M MAKING THERE, BUT JUST TO KIND OF GET INTO THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT HERE OF, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE TOWARDS URBAN AND, UM, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS THAT DO CONSIDER THINGS LIKE TRYING TO MAKE IT, UH, SLOWER SPEEDS AND SAFER FOR, UH, NON AUTOMOBILE USERS.
UM, MY NEXT QUESTION WAS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, I KNOW HOW TO GEEK OUT ON THIS ONE.
WE'RE LIKE LAYING THINGS OUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH A NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE BOLDEN OR, YOU KNOW, I SEE ALL THIS, LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE SAFE STREETS THINGS, AND THEN WE'RE PUT IN LIKE THE LITTLE, UM, CIRCLE THINGS.
AND THEN WE HAVE, THERE'S A BUNCH OF LIKE, UH, SOPHOMORES BARRIERS TRYING TO SLOW THINGS UP.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY IS TRYING TO IMPLEMENT SOME NEW TOOLS FOR, UH, STREETS AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND STUFF.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND ESPECIALLY IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE CURRENT WIDTH AND THE RADIUS IS, YOU KNOW, ON THESE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS ARE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE GREENFIELD WOULD BE WANTING.
SO IF THERE WAS A SITUATION, LIKE HOW WOULD A COMMUNITY NOW WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT IT FROM THE COMMUNITY SIDE, RIGHT? HOW WOULD THEY USE THIS AND HOW COULD THIS, THEY USE THIS AND NAVIGATE IT AS A SET OF TOOLS TO SEE HOW IT COMPARES TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW THEY COULD USE IT TO HELP IMPLEMENT CHANGE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS A KID OF TOOLS TO HELP MAKE THEIR COMMUNITY SAFER.
IS THERE A PROCESS THAT YOU COULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU COULD SEE SOMEBODY USING THIS FOR THAT, AND WOULD IT BE APPLICABLE IN THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE OLDER INFILLED NEIGHBORHOODS? YEAH.
LET ME, LET ME TAKE A ATTEMPT AT ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.
SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL NOTE IS THAT, UM, THINGS LIKE TYPICAL STREET SECTIONS AND OTHER THINGS ARE SHOWN FOR GREENFIELD,
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BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PLACES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECTION TWO WHERE WE HAVE THE FLEXIBLE DESIGN TABLES FOR CONSTRAINED ENVIRONMENTS, UH, AND, UH, IN THAT I THINK THOSE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS TO TRY TO, UM, MAYBE SKETCH OUT AND SEE THINGS.AND WE ALSO HAVE A TOOLBOX OF SPEED MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUES.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST USEFUL ONE, UH, IN SECTION THREE DOT THREE, UM, THAT, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING USEFUL TO LOOK AT WAYS TO SLOW THINGS DOWN.
UM, LET ME INSURERS WITH ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER AZHAR NO COMMISSIONER DESIRE AND THEN COMMISSIONER MOOSE DOLLAR DOLLAR WAS BEFORE ME.
UM, I, I, I DID WANT TO BACKTRACK A LITTLE BIT THE, UM, THE, UM, PARK HEARING.
WE WERE LISTENING TO THAT, JUST SO THE COMMISSION KNOWS, I THINK, I THINK COMMISSIONER SHAY PICKED UP ON WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ALLUDE TO, WHICH IS JUST SOME BROADER IDEAS AND TRYING TO SEE THE FOREST THROUGH THE TREES ON HOW WE'RE GUIDING PLANNING THROUGH THE CITY.
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS AND THINGS COMING BEFORE US TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITIES AND TO WORK WITH THE LARGER VISION AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THEM TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
I'M REALLY IN FAVOR OF THE BIKE LANE PATHWAYS, THE PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS AND THE MULTIMODAL WAYS TO GET AROUND THE CITY.
SO THAT BEING SAID ON THIS, UM, TRANSPORTATION PLAN, ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS THIS JUST FOR OUR INFORMATION ONLY, OR SOMETHING BEING ASKED OF US IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT? AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION, CAUSE I'M COMING OUT IN, IN MORE OF THE SUBURBAN AREA OF THE CITY WHERE WE'RE IN GROWTH MODE WILL EASE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CALL THEM.
REGULATIONS, MANUALS, WHATEVER WILL THIS, UH, END UP IMPACTING WHAT TXDOT IS ALSO DOING WITH SOME OF THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
BECAUSE ONE OF MY CONCERNS OUT HERE IS THAT WE ARE GETTING HIGH SPEED ROADWAYS AND AS DEVELOPMENT IS INCREASING, THERE'S A LACK OF, FOR PLAN IN A FORESIGHT AND PLANNING AHEAD FOR THE BIKE LANES AND THE MULTIMODAL PEDESTRIAN WAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED AS THE CITY GROWS.
AND AS WE TRY AND FIGURE OUT WAYS TO BLEND DENSITY IN WHERE WE'RE WANTING IT TO TRANSITION AND ROLL, WHERE WE HAVE THE SPACE TO DO THAT, AKA THE WEST SIDE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BRING THAT OUT AND ENCOURAGE SMART GROWTH.
SO I'M, I'M CURIOUS TO SEE IF THIS WOULD, HOW THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT WITH WHAT TXDOT IS DOING, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES THEY'RE JUST NOT GIVING ANY THOUGHT AS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE CITY GROWTH AND WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.
UM, SO FOR YOUR FIRST QUESTION, THEY ASK OF PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, BASICALLY I'M REALLY PRESENTING JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL A HEADS UP, UM, ON THE PROJECT AS IT MOVES FORWARD.
LIKE I MENTIONED, UH, THE TCM GOES THROUGH THE, THE FORMAL RULES HOSTING PROCESS, UH, THAT THE CITY HAS LAID OUT.
SO IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY TYPE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, FORMAL REVIEWER APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONS.
UM, HOWEVER YOU, YOU WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW, UM, OUR PUBLIC DRAFT ONCE WE POST THAT AND THEN PROVIDE, UM, COMMENTS TO US, UM, TO STAFF EITHER, YOU KNOW, AS, AS, AS A WHOLE OR AS INDIVIDUALS, UH, WHICHEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER, UM, ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE DRAFT, UM, TO MAKE, TO MAKE ANY LAST MINUTE EDITS BEFORE WE, UM, SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR REVIEW.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS YOUR SECOND QUESTION IN TEXTILE, I'M GOING TO LET JAKE, UH, ANSWER THAT ONE SINCE HE HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, EXPERIENCE WITH TEXTILE THEN THAN I DO.
SO, UM, YOU'D ASKED ABOUT, UH, TEXTILES AND THEIR KIND OF FACILITIES.
UM, SO THE THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ANSWERS TO THIS AND I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF, BUT, UH, THE FIRST ONE IS IF IT IS TEXT DOTS, UH, RIGHT OF WAY, IT'S THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY.
IN ESSENCE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE, THE JURISDICTION OR THE PRIMARY JURISDICTION OVER WHAT HAPPENS THERE.
UM, HOWEVER, I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH SOME UPDATES THEMSELVES, UH, TO THEIR DESIGN CRITERIA.
UM, FORTUNATELY, UH, WE ARE ACTUALLY ALSO, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO HELP THEM WITH THAT.
AND WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE MOVEMENT TOWARDS, UH, CONSIDERATION OF THINGS, UH, LIKE BICYCLE FACILITIES AND CONTEXTS IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN.
SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL HOPEFULLY BE LESS OF AN ABRUPT TRANSITION, UH, THAN IT TODAY, UH, GOING FROM A CITY TO A TEXTILE FACILITY AND THAT MORE COLLABORATION CAN TAKE PLACE THERE.
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UM, ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING AREAS OF THE CITY, UH, IS ALONG FRONT END ROADS.AND SO WE'RE HOPING TO, UM, THROUGH THIS MANUAL, THERE'S A COUPLE OF PLACES YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADEQUATELY PUT THINGS LIKE, UH, SHARED USE PATHS OR, AND BIKE FACILITIES.
ONCE YOU GET PAST THE CURB LINE ON FRONTAGE ROADS TO BETTER TIE INTO THE CITY'S FACILITIES AND NETWORKS.
SO, UM, SHORT ANSWER IS IF IT'S THEIR RIGHT OF WAY, IT'LL BE THEIR JURISDICTION, THEIR DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT, UM, WE'RE HOPEFUL TO GET, UH, MOVING THE NEEDLE AND THEN HELP, UH, MAKE THOSE TRADITIONAL LESS RE-UPPED AS THEY GO THROUGH THEIR OWN UPDATES, THEIR DESIGN MANUALS, YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME.
IS THAT ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU HAD? UM, YEAH, THAT, THAT HELPS A BIT.
UM, YEAH, I WAS HOPING WE'D HAVE MORE, MORE, UM, OVER, SAY ON, ON SOME OF THOSE ROADWAYS, BUT AT LEAST THERE'S COLLABORATION THERE.
I APPRECIATE WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING AND, AND TAKING THOUGHT ON THIS, THANKS FOR YOUR WORK.
AND, AND LET ME ADD A COMMISSIONER MITCH TELLER.
WHEN WE GO OVER, UH, THE DIFFERENT, UH, COMMITTEE AND, AND WORK WORK GROUP UPDATES, UH, WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT, UH, WHAT THIS BODY IS GOING TO DO IN RESPONSE TO THE TCM ONCE THE NEW DRAFT IS SUBMITTED.
SO WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT LATER.
UH, ANY MORE COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER IS, ARE, THANK YOU CHAIR.
UM, SO I HAVE SOME BROADER QUESTIONS, SOME MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, AND I'M HOPING, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE, BUT I'LL JUST ASK MY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND SEE STUFF YOU CAN HELP ME RESPOND.
SO I THINK WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND DOES DOES THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS IN OUR DCM PROHIBIT WINDY OR SECURITIES SIDEWALKS, UH, RIGHT.
SO I KNOW SOMETIMES THERE'S, UM, YOUR ELECTRIC ELECTRICAL OR SOMETHING ELSE, THERE'S SOME INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND SO THE BATH HAS TO GROW AROUND IT, BUT WOULD IT INCLUDE JUST WHINY BATS FROM A DESIGN AESTHETIC PERSPECTIVE? UM, I'LL TELL YOU A QUICK ANSWER TO THAT.
SO WE DO TALK ABOUT IT AND I THINK THE PUBLIC DRAFT, BUT WE DID, UM, PER PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT BACK IN NOVEMBER AND THE, THE DRAFT THAT'S COMING OUT THERE SHOULD BE SOME MORE DETAIL ON, UH, LIMITATIONS ON THINGS LIKE TRANSITIONS OR TURNS TO HELP MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST AND STRICT.
UM, AND SO WHEN YOU SEE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, I'VE ENCOURAGED TO LOOK IN THAT SECTION FOR PEDESTRIAN SECTION, YOU SHOULD SEE SOME MORE, UH, DETAIL BEYOND JUST SAYING AVOID, UM, WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
I KNOW THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR, UM, FOLKS FROM THE, UM, YOU KNOW, DISABILITY, JUSTICE COMMUNITY, ALMOST REMINDING US THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF.
SO I'M GLAD THAT THAT HAS BEEN INCLUDED.
UM, MY OTHER QUESTION WAS IN TERMS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION REVIEW OR STRATEGIES SUCH AS PARKING REDUCTIONS OR ACCESS TO TRANSIT ARE THOSE INCLUDED WHEN STAFF WILL BE ASSESSING YOU REDUCTION VMD.
SO, UM, TO CLARIFY, I DON'T NEED TO CLARIFY A QUESTION, BUT YEAH, IN THE CTR COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION REVIEW, OUR PARKING REDUCTIONS AND ACCESS TO TRANSIT BEING INCLUDED AS PART OF THE EMPTY REDUCTIONS, THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.
SO, UM, AND THE SIMPLE WAY TO SAY THAT IS THAT IF IT, IF IT WAS INCLUDED AS A REDUCTION IN THE STREET IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE, IT WILL BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE TDM OR TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT REDUCTIONS.
UM, THEY'RE BEING ASSESSED FOR BNP WHEN A PA OR A T D M PLAINTIFF'S BEING REQUIRED FOR A SITE.
AND I THINK I CAN GO AND SEE, UM, WHAT IS IN OUR STREET AND BACK FOR THE ORDINANCE SO THAT I KNOW WHERE THE PRODUCTIONS ARE.
AND I DO WANT TO SAY, I'M SORRY.
I KNOW I'M ASKING YOU VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
DO WE BREAK LARGE DOCUMENTS? SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO ANSWER AND REMEMBER REALLY SPECIFIC BITS HERE.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS REGARDING THE MINIMUM CROSSWALK REQUIREMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE GCM GRANT BEFORE LEVEL TWO AND LEVEL THREE STREETS, WHICH ARE NOT IN THE TRANSIT PRIORITY NETWORK, THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS 1200 FOOT GAPS BETWEEN THE CROSSWALKS.
AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A MINIMUM, WHAT THIS PRECLUDE ANY MID-BLOCK CROSSWALKS, OR WOULD THIS DISCOURAGE MID-BLOCK CROSSWALKS, ESSENTIALLY, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE SIXTH STREET IN GIRLS' JEEP WOULD FALL UNDER THIS AND 1200, A FOOT SPACE.
CROSSWALKS SEEMS VERY EXTREME IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
I CAN SEE HOW IT MAKES SENSE FOR CERTAIN STREETS, BUT NOT OTHERS.
AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WOULD THIS STILL GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITIES AND IMPETUS TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE MID-BLOCK CROSSWALKS IN THOSE CASES? YEAH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
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IF YOU LOOK BACK AT IT, I'LL, I'LL CLARIFY THIS, BUT THE, UM, I BELIEVE THE, THE REQUIREMENTS STATEMENT IN THERE IS EVERY BLOCK, UH, WITH A MAXIMUM LENGTH OF 1200 FEET.SO, UM, FOR THOSE THAT, DO I THINK THAT THE SITUATION WHERE THE 1200 WOULD COME INTO PLAY WOULD BE MORE OF YOUR, UH, RURAL OR EX-URBAN OR SUBURBAN AREAS WHERE YOU MAY HAVE A VERY LONG BLOCK LENGTH.
AND AT THAT POINT IS WHERE YOU'D HAVE ADDITIONAL MID-BLOCK, BUT I WOULD SAY IT WOULD NOT PRECLUDE MID BLOCKS BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE, UM, PEDESTRIAN CROSSING GUIDELINES OF THE VISION ZERO GROUP AT THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING ON, UH, THAT'LL BE PUBLISHED AND INCLUDED, UH, WHENEVER THE TCM GETS DONE, WHICH WOULD HAVE CRITERIA FOR WHEN A MID-BLOCK WOULD MAKE SENSE AS WELL.
IN ADDITION TO THAT MAXIMUM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I APPRECIATE THE DILIGENCE ON THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, AND IF I HAVE TIME, I'M GOING TO QUICKLY ASK ONE MORE QUESTION.
IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF, I COULD NOT FIND ANY GUIDELINES FOR LOCATING BUS STOPS AND SHELTERS IN THE PEDESTRIAN SECTION.
SO I'M NOT LOOKING AT IT ESSENTIALLY CROSS SECTIONS FOR HOW WE MIGHT ALIGN PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES WITH BUS STOPS.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE, IN THE DCM AND I JUST MIGHT'VE MISSED IT, UH, TO CLARIFY, IS THAT, UH, LOCATION WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, LIKE, UM, LATERALLY OR IS IT ALL ALONG THE STREETS TO BE CLEAR LATERAL RELEASE? SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, RIGHT, LIKE SOMETHING OF THE REPUBLIC SQUARE ONE, WHERE WE HAVE BUS STOPS AND THE PEDESTRIAN SPACES WHERE I THINK TO BE HONEST, SOMETIMES IT'S REALLY HARD TO WALK OR STAND AND WHILE YOU'RE WAITING FOR THE BUS STOP, CAUSE IT'S KIND OF MUDDLED RIGHT THERE AND THEN KIND OF SEE WHAT OUR DCM ESSENTIALLY NOT FEEL THAT SITUATION FOR OTHER SPACES AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR, UM, ANY BUS STOPS IN THE SPACE TO BUY FOR THE BUS STOP IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT OR AT LEAST IN SOME WAYS CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH THE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES.
AND TO BE BRIEF, UM, THE SHORT ANSWER IS, IS THAT THE, THE BUS STOP IS GOING TO, OR THE BUS PASS, UM, PLATFORM WAITING AREA WOULD GO IN THE, UM, UH, STREET THREE IN FURNITURE ZONE, UH, KIND OF IN BETWEEN THE STREETS TREES, UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING.
UH, AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME DIAGRAMS IN SECTION SIX IN THE TRANSIT CHAPTER THAT SHOULD ILLUSTRATE SOME OF THAT AS WELL AS A, UM, TYPICAL, UH, FLOATING BUS STOP IS IN SECTION FIVE AND THE BIKE CHAPTER AS WELL.
UH, LET'S SEE, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE AN ASKED QUESTION, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.
I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS MAYBE SORT OF TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THE, UH, RESPONSES THAT STAFF PROVIDED TO OUR SUBMITTED QUESTIONS ALREADY.
UM, SO, SO ONE OF THEM WAS ABOUT HOW CONSTRAINED CROSS SECTIONS WORK AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT QUALIFIES AS CONSTRAINED.
AND IS THERE A CLEAR PRIORITY WHEN SOMETHING'S CONSTRAINED? LIKE WHAT GETS DROPPED OFF? LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST THING THAT GETS DROPPED OFF IS PARALLEL PARKING.
AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL LANE WIDTH OR, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, FINALLY SIDEWALK WITH THEIR, UH, HOW, HOW IS THAT DECIDED WHEN, WHEN THERE IS A CONSTRAINT LIMIT? YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.
UH, AND I'M GONNA KIND OF TAKE THAT FROM TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
UM, I THINK THE SIMPLEST ANSWER TO THAT IS IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, LOOKED AT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE A LOT OF IT BY, BY LOOKING AT THE ASM P UM, WITH THOSE PRIORITY NETWORKS.
SO IF IT'S A, UH, TRANSIT PRIORITY, BIKE PRIORITY AUTO PRIORITY, WE'LL LOOK AT THOSE DIFFERENT NETWORKS AS A KIND OF A FIRST STEP TO LOOK AT WHICH ZONES, UH, WOULD BE CONSTRAINED FIRST.
UM, BUT THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME SITUATIONS WHERE, UH, IT'S SO CONSTRAINED THAT YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE COMBINE A BICYCLE LANE AND A SIDEWALK INTO A SHARED USE PATH.
AND SO ALL OF THOSE SITUATIONS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH A LOT OF SCRUTINY, BUT USE THE MANUAL AS GUIDANCE FOR THAT.
BUT IT REALLY, I THINK THE GUIDING LIGHT AND THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO THAT IS THAT IT'S THE S AND P A, AND THAT THESE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE TAKEN ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT THERE'S NOT A, THERE'S NOT A PRIORITY LIST OF NO PARKING GOES FIRST KIND OF THING, NOT SPECIFICALLY, OR EXPLICITLY IN THE TCM.
AND PART OF THAT IS JUST BECAUSE, UH, THESE CONSTRAINED AREAS ARE GONNA VARY BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE ADJACENT LAND USES IN THE CONTEXT.
AND SO, UM, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE, TO TURN ON A CASE BY CASE, WHICH IS WHY IT WASN'T CODIFIED AS ONE SIMPLE STRAIGHT LINE SYSTEM.
SO THEN I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT THE LANE WIDTHS AND I KIND OF ASKED ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS WHY ARE THE LANE WIDTHS, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANTLY WIDER THAN WHAT APPEAR TO BE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PUBLISHED BEST PRACTICES AND THE STANDARDS THAT YOU REFERENCED.
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE, THE GUTTER DESIGN IN AUSTIN
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AS BEING SOMEWHAT UNIQUE.CAN YOU SORT OF EXPAND ON THAT AND EXPLAIN THAT? YEAH, LET ME, I'LL BE HAPPY TO, SO, UM, FOR, FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR TRANSIT, BUT ALSO FOR AUTO VEHICLES AS THEY'RE NAVIGATING, IF YOU'RE RIDING IN THE OUTSIDE LANE OR IN SOME CASES WHERE YOU HAVE ONE LANE, UM, FOLKS TYPICALLY DON'T DRIVE OVER WHAT WE'LL CALL THAT JOINTS OR INTO THE GUTTER, UH, WHICH IS CONCRETE.
AND SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, FROM OUR DESIGN EXPERIENCE IS THAT WE WANT TO KEEP, UH, AT LEAST 10 FOOT CLEAR AT, AT MINIMUM.
UH, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT SAYS IF YOU DO, UM, A RECESSED INLAND, AND THERE'S ALSO NOT A DROP-OFF, THAT'S THE OTHER CHALLENGE WE RUN INTO IS WHEN YOU HAVE, UH, INLETS, A LOT OF TIMES THAT GUTTER IS ANGLED DOWN REALLY BAD.
YOU'VE PROBABLY BEEN RIDING A BIKE AND COME ACROSS ONE OF THOSE OR SOMETHING WITH A GREAT, UH, AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUTSIDE OF THE CONCRETE, IN THE ASPHALT, THERE'S ACTUALLY A, A MINIMUM OF 10, BUT THEN THE REASON WHY THOSE OUTSIDE LANES ARE A 12 AND A HALF OR 11 FOOT OF ASPHALT IS BECAUSE IT'S PLANNED TO BE THAT ANY OUTSIDE LANE ON A MULTI-LANE ROAD IN THE CITY COULD BE CONVERTED TO SOMETHING LIKE A HIGHER TRANSIT USE IN THE FUTURE IF NEEDED.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE REASONING FOR THE 11 FOOT ON THE OUTSIDE AND ASPHALT.
I, I GUESS I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSING.
IS AUSTIN UNIQUE IN THE WAY THAT IT BUILDS ITS STREETS WITH A GUTTER, A CONCRETE GUTTER AND AN ASPHALT, BECAUSE THAT'S PRETTY COMMON.
UM, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTRY DO USE, UH, CONCRETE, UH, WHICH ALLOWS FOR A NARROWER LANE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT THE JOINTING PROBLEM OR THAT ISSUE AS MUCH.
UM, YEAH, I'LL JUST STOP THERE.
I MEAN, IS IT, IT'S A SOUTHERN THING VERSUS, I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A WESTERN THING, RIGHT? THAT CONCRETE'S USED MORE UP NORTH THAN ASPHALTS ACTUALLY CONCRETE.
UH, THE PRIMARY ONE USED IN LIKE DFW AND HOUSTON AND THEN SAN ANTONIO AND AUSTIN ARE PRIMARILY MORE ASPHALT.
AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO HIGHER SPEED AND ACCESS CONTROLLED, LIKE TEXTILE TYPE ROWS, THEY GET TO PICK UP THE CONCRETE MOST OF THE TIME.
I GUESS MY, MY CONCERN IS IF, IF THE PRIMARY REASON FOR HAVING THE NARROW LANES IN AN URBAN SPACE IS, IS TO, YOU KNOW, ONE IS TO SORT OF SLOW TRAFFIC AND PROVIDE SAFETY FOR PEDESTRIANS, ET CETERA.
THEN, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, WHETHER THAT'S A, A, A PERCEIVED 12 FOOT, YOU KNOW, 12 AND A HALF FOOT, OR, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY 11 FEET, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE IN THE SPEED OF THE DRIVERS.
DOES IT, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT, UM, YEAH, THERE'S DEFINITELY SPEEDS THAT CORRELATE NARROW LANE WITH, WITH, UM, SPEED OF DRIVERS, FOR SURE.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH OUT THERE ON THAT.
AND, UM, LIKE I WAS SAYING, I THINK, YEAH.
DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT, LIKE, THAT DRIVERS WON'T INCLUDE THE, THE FOOT AND A HALF GUTTER IN THEIR CALCULATION OF HOW FAST I CAN DRIVE ON THE STREET? OH YEAH.
I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE.
NO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY JUST FROM, FROM PRACTICE OF BEING ABLE TO BE VEHICLES DON'T, DON'T DRIVE IN THAT GUTTER PAN, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S, UH DROP-OFFS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE CAUSING ISSUES.
SO THAT'S, UH, THAT IT'S TIME FOR THAT ROUND OF QUESTIONS.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVEN'T ASKED QUESTIONS YET, UH, FINISHER, UH, CAUDALIE.
I HAVE A SHORT QUESTION AND SHOULD BE SHORT, UH, SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPLE, BUT IN ONE OF THE ANSWERS PROVIDED TO A QUESTION ABOUT A BIKE PLAZA AS A PEDESTRIAN PLAZA, IS THE ANSWER STATED THAT THERE WAS NO CRITERIA INCLUDED FOR THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT DOESN'T THERE AREN'T MANY OF THOSE THAT DON'T REALLY EXIST YET, BUT THAT THE TCM CAN BE UPDATED.
AND SO MY QUESTION IS REALLY JUST HOW FREQUENTLY DO WE EXPECT TO UPDATE THE TCM MOVING FORWARD? AND WHAT DOES PROCESS LOOK LIKE? HOW COULD IT BE EDITED AND UPDATED? IS THERE, UM, IS THERE LIKE A, A SHORT, UH, PROCESS FOR SMALL EDITS OR IS THAT AN ONGOING THING? AND THAT'S, HOPEFULLY THAT WAS CLEAR.
UM, WE'VE GOTTEN THAT QUITE A BIT FROM OTHERS AS WELL.
UM, I, LIKE I MENTIONED AT THE CURRENT TCM THAT WE HAVE IS FROM THE EIGHTIES.
UM, WE HISTORICALLY WE HAVEN'T UPDATED THE TCM AS MUCH AS WE SHOULD HAVE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A REALLY, REALLY COMPREHENSIVE TASK TO CREATE THIS UPDATED DRAFT, WHICH,
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YOU KNOW, IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE CURRENT TCM.UM, SO WE'RE ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED TO UPDATING, UM, THE TCM, WHETHER IT BE YEARLY EVERY TWO YEARS, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR BEST PRACTICES ARE INCORPORATED, UM, INTO THE DOCUMENT AS IT, AS IT LIVES ON.
UM, AND AS FAR AS THE PROCESS FOR THAT, IT WOULD STILL BE THE ROLLED POSTING PROCESS.
UM, IT WOULDN'T BE AS DAUNTING, YOU KNOW, AS HAVING A, AN ENTIRELY NEW, UM, DOCUMENT.
UM, BUT IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE ROLES POSTING PROCESS, WHICH, UM, GETS POSTED, UH, FOUR TIMES A YEAR.
THERE ARE FOUR DIFFERENT QUARTERS WHERE THE CITY POSTS FOR RULES SO THAT IT WOULDN'T BE AS LENGTHY AS THE ONE WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE THAT A FORMAL RULE OF POSTING PROCESS.
UM, ONE OTHER ASPECT OF THE DRAFT TCM THAT WE HAVE IS, IS WE'LL BE REFERENCING, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME NATIONAL DESIGN, UM, STANDARDS THAT WE WILL KEEP MORE IN LIKE AN, AN APPENDIX OF SORTS THAT WE CAN UPDATE, UM, OUTSIDE OF THIS DOCUMENT.
SO THAT'LL MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, IN TWO YEARS WE CAN REFERENCE AN UPDATED ACTO, UH, DESIGN GUIDE DOCUMENT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE RULES POSTING PROCESS.
UM, SO THAT WILL MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR US, UM, AS STAFF, AS WELL AS WE KNOW, USE UPDATED DESIGNS, UM, SEE WHAT WORKS, SEE WHAT DOESN'T, AND THEN BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THAT, UM, IN THE CCM.
MY COMMISSIONERS LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM, ANYBODY THAT HASN'T ASKED QUESTIONS YET.
UH, I'LL ASK, UH, JUST A FEW OF TAKE MY TIME, UM, ON THE, SO I HEARD THAT THE RELEASE OF THE DRAFT IS, UH, WHAT'S THE ANTICIPATED PAY TO DATE FOR THE RELEASE, THE, UH, WE'LL START THE 31 DAY CLOCK.
WELL, WE HOPE TO GET A DRAFT OUT TO THE PUBLIC IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
UM, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DATE YET.
UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, TYPICALLY THE CITY, UH, WILL RELEASE PROPOSED RULE CHANGES FOUR TIMES A YEAR.
UH, WE'RE NOT TIED TO THAT WE CAN GO OUT OF, OUT OF PROCESS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE'RE KIND OF JUST WAITING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, RESOLVE ANY LINGERING ISSUES WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET SIGN OFF FROM EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH IT.
UH, WE'LL MAKE OUR REVISIONS AND THEN WE'LL POST PUBLICLY.
SO I'M HOPING IN A FEW WEEKS, UM, WE WILL DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, BE PRETTY PUBLIC ABOUT IT.
WE WANT, WE WANT TO GET PUBLIC FEEDBACK, SO WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE UPDATING OUR WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, SENDING OUT A NEWSLETTER, UM, SOME EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS ONCE WE'RE READY TO DO THAT.
AND THEN, UH, SO, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING TO, UM, UH, CONSIDER AMENDMENTS AND, UH, TAKE ACTION ON THIS AMENDMENTS.
AND SO, UH, THE HOPE IS TO GET THOSE BACK TO YOU WITHIN THE 31 DAYS, BUT, UH, WE MAY BE, IF THAT'S NOT, UH, WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME, IS THAT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE? I MEAN, IF IT'S RUNNING JUST A FEW DAYS AFTER YOUR 31 DAYS.
I MEAN, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST, UM, SUGGEST KEEPING IN TOUCH WITH ME, LETTING ME KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT DATE YOU ANTICIPATE, HAVING YOUR FORMAL COMMENT.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN DEFINITELY, UM, MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK WITH YOU SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER WHATEVER COMMENTS YOU AS A COMMISSIONER ABLE TO PROVIDE AND WHAT WOULD BE THE AFTER WE HAVE THOSE AMENDMENTS FOR KIND OF VETTING THOSE AMENDMENTS.
AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND HOW DOES THAT ACTUALLY BE CONSIDERED FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, INCLUSION IN THE FINAL VERSION OF THE TCM, WHAT'S KIND OF THAT, WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE PROCESS AFTER WE ACTUALLY TURN THOSE OVER TO YOU? YEAH.
IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING PROCESS IN THAT ONCE WE STAFF RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENTS, UM, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S UP TO OUR DISCRETION, YOU KNOW, AS THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, HOW, UM, WE INCORPORATE, UH, THE SUGGESTION FROM THE PUBLIC.
SO I'M HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AND MAYBE PROVIDE YOU SOME, YOU KNOW, RESPONSES TO YOUR COMMENTS.
UM, WHEN WE DO POST OUR, WHEN WE DO, UH, PROVIDE OUR FINAL DOCUMENT TO THE CITY MANAGER, WE ARE REQUIRED TO ALSO PROVIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE A COMMENT LOG FROM THE PUBLIC AND THEN, UM, ILLUSTRATE HOW WE RESPONDED TO EACH COMMENT.
SO I'M HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO MEET AND WE CAN GO OVER YOUR SPECIFIC COMMENTS AND HOW WE RESPONDED TO THEM.
SO THIS MAY BE IN THE PAST WHEN WE'VE HAD THESE, UM,
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AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED AS SOMETIMES WE GET STAFF TO ACTUALLY COMMENT ON THOSE AMENDMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE ON THEM.UM, WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON OUR PROCESS YET, BUT, UH, SOMETHING, WOULD THAT BE AN OPTION? UM, IF WE DID IT WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME ALLOTTED, UH, FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT, ARE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND MAYBE OFFER COMMENT TO THOSE AMENDMENTS.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'D HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.
I THINK IT WOULD REALLY DEPEND ON TIMING.
UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, PROVIDE AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS I CAN.
UM, SO I, I WILL WAIT TO SEE HOW YOU AS A COMMISSION DECIDE TO PROVIDE THOSE COMMENTS AND THEN WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH THAT QUESTIONS? OKAY.
WELL, I THINK, UM, WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD.
UH, AGAIN, UM, NO ACTION ON THIS, BUT WE'LL, WE WILL, UH, TALK MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS WHEN WE GO TO THE, UH, LAST SECTION THIS EVENING ON MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP.
UH, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.
[D. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
THE NEXT SIDE IS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UH, DO WE, UH, I KNOW I HAVE ONE NOTED HERE THAT CAME UP AT A PREVIOUS MEETING ABOUT PRESENTATION FROM STAFF ON NOTIFICATIONS AND THAT, UH, WAS INITIALLY MEANT, UH, RECOMMENDED BY MR. JADA'S POLITO.UH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHERS THAT WE WANT TO, UH, CONSIDER FOR FUTURE, UM, FUTURE, UH, FISHER SHED? UM, I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY.
I MEAN, MAYBE WE CAN REFRAME IT AS WE THINK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT, UM, I MEAN, FOR ME, I MEAN, LIKE I'M ALWAYS KIND OF TRACKING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE REAL ESTATE PRICES IN AUSTIN FOR HOMES AND IT JUST REALLY FLABBERGASTS ME WHEN WE SEE THE, UH, THE MEDIUM HOME PRICE NOW HAS BUSTED OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
UM, IT'S, IT'S ABSOLUTELY INSANE.
I MEAN, USED TO BE LIKE, YOU CAN GET HOMES IN TWO 50, THREE 50 AND IT JUST BLASTED THROUGH.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, FROM DEVELOPERS TO THE PEOPLE IN REAL ESTATE TO PEOPLE IN AFFORDABILITY TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE ASKING, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS EVEN SUSTAINABLE? YOU KNOW? AND I FEEL LIKE, UM, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT REALLY GET AFFECTED OR EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, IT'S WHEN THEY'RE BUYING A HOUSE, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE GOOD IF ALL OF US CAN HEAR FROM SOMEBODY TO KIND OF GIVE US A QUICK KIND OF CHECK-IN OF WHAT THE MARKET IS LOOKING LIKE.
AND MAYBE THAT WILL HELP US IN UNDERSTANDING THE CURRENT STATUS OF OUR CITY AND ITS UNAFFORDABILITY AND WHERE IT'S HEADED TO.
UM, SO I DUNNO, I DUNNO IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO, YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN TO HEAR SOMETHING, UM, ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE, UH, WE CAN HAVE SOME OTHER PEOPLE IN THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY AND COME AND MAYBE TALK WITH US ABOUT WHAT THAT STATUS IS, AND I'M NOT SEEING YOU COMMISSIONER SHADE, BUT MAYBE I CAN STILL HEAR YOU.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE, UM, I GUESS COMMENT, UH, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT STAFF WOULD ARRANGE FOR US? I DON'T KNOW IF THE, UH, CITY DEMOGRAPHER WOULD HAVE SOME INPUT ON THAT.
WHAT ARE YOUR, CAN YOU, UM, KIND OF SOLIDIFY THAT REQUEST A LITTLE? YEAH.
SO I THINK, I THINK SOMETHING FROM THE DEMOGRAPHER WOULD BE, WOULD BE GOOD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE INFLUX IS.
AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T NECESSARILY, I MEAN, IT COULD BE FROM THE CITY'S STAFF IN THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, BUT THE OTHER THING IS, I MEAN, WE COULD REACH OUT TO SOMEBODY SAY, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE, IN THE, UM, UNDER KNOW AUSTIN BOARD OF REALTORS, UM, INTER CAUSE I'VE BEEN READING, YOU KNOW, LIKE PEOPLE ARE SAYING, THIS IS UNSUSTAINABLE.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? I MEAN, FOR AUSTINITES ALSO NIGHTS YOU'VE BEEN LIVING HERE MAKING WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, MAKING A LIVING HERE OR BEING OUT PRICED AND OUT, YOU KNOW, PRI WHAT'S
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HAPPENING AROUND US AND THE INFLUX AND IT'S, IT'S MAKING IT VERY, I MEAN, MY CONCERN IS THE ADVANCEMENT IS SO FAST THAT THE AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL DISPLACEMENT IS GOING TO BE MORE THAN WE EVEN EXPECTED BECAUSE THE PRICE ADVANCEMENTS ARE ALREADY SO HIGH.WE JUST NEED TO GO AHEAD AND FORMALIZE THE REQUEST AND WE'LL SO DEMOGRAPHER AND, AND I'D SAY, DO YOU WANT TO, I DON'T KNOW.
SHOULD WE REACH OUT, DO YOU WANT TO THINK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE MORE? AS FAR AS A COMMISSIONER, I REALLY DON'T HAVE, TIME IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.
UH, LET'S JUST MAYBE GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.
AZHAR DID YOU JUST WANT TO COMMENT BRIEFLY ON THE PROPOSAL? SO IF COMMISSIONER SHERRY IS OPEN TO IT, I'M ALSO THINKING, UM, UH, STAFF CAN SORT OF GIVE US AN UNDERSTANDING FOR OUR BLUE PEN SCORECARD.
WHAT WE SAW WAS THAT WE'RE NOT MEETING ANY OF OUR TARGETS IN OUR, IN OUR HOUSING BLUEPRINT FOR 80% MFI AND ABOVE IT.
CAN STAFF SPEAK TO THAT ESSENTIALLY? WHY ARE WE NOT MEETING THOSE TARGETS? AND WHA HOW CAN WE ADDRESS THOSE TARGETS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY? I DON'T KNOW IF MR. SHADE THAT THAT ALIGNS WITH KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING AS WELL.
SO, SO WE HAD A PRESENTATION ABOUT THAT, AND STAFF SAID THAT WE ARE ACCORDING TO THEM, WE'RE DOING FINE.
BUT TO ME, I'M TALKING ABOUT MARKET RATE HAS, HAS JUST BLOWN THROUGH, LIKE, WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE MARKET RATES AND MARKET RATE IS JUST BLOWN OUT OF THE WATER.
LET ME, LET ME INTERESTED IN THIS.
LET ME, LET ME THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN RE YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN AND, UH, COMMISSIONER
BUT I DUNNO, I MEAN, IT'S A BIG CONCERN OF MINE AND I JUST DON'T SEE MANY PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT.
SO CAN WE GO AHEAD AND SPEAK A SECOND? OKAY.
SO YOU GUYS ALL FORM? UH, YES.
[E. NOMINATIONS & RECOMMENDATIONS]
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, MOVING ON TO, UH, NOMINATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WE HAD A LOT OF SPENT A LOT OF TIME KIND OF GOING INTO THE DETAIL OF THE, THE DIFFERENT, UM, UH, COMMITTEES THAT WE HAVE.AND WE HAVE, UH, THREE VACANCIES STILL THAT I WOULD LOVE TO FILL THAT WOULD BE GETTING A NOMINATION AND MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO FILL THE THREE SPOTS.
UH, AND THEY ARE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, JOINT COMMITTEE, SMALLER AREA PLANNING, JOINT COMMITTEE AND THE SUSTAINABILITY JOINT COMMITTEE.
AND SO, UM, I'D SAY, UH, LET'S JUST SELL, OPEN IT UP TO THE FLOOR FOR THE NEW COMMISSIONERS.
DO YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR INTEREST IF YOU HAD TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT, IF NOT, WE MAY, YOU MAY BE NOMINATED FOR SOMETHING, UH, BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU HAVE, UH, AFTER LOOKING AT THIS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, IS THERE ONE OF THOSE COMMITTEES THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO BE PART OF? I'M LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER COX, CONDITONER BUSH, COMMISSIONER PRAXIS.
CAN YOU REMIND ME AGAIN? I THINK LAST TIME I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS SMALL AREA, BUT I WANTED TO HEAR AGAIN, UM, WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT GROUP IS DOING.
LET'S CAN WE KEEP THAT BRIEF, SOMEBODY THAT'S ON THAT COMMITTEE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TO IT QUICKLY? OKAY.
I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF, BUT YOU KNOW ME.
SO, UM, SO THE CITY, THE CITY, THE CITY PUTS FORWARD SMALL AREA PLANS, AND A LOT OF THAT GOES IN FRONT OF US, RIGHT? SO THERE'S NEW PLANS THAT ARE BEING BEFORE OFTENTIMES, OR QUARTER PLANS OR SPECIAL AREA THERE IS, OR SPECIAL AREAS.
THERE'S ALSO NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS ANY AMENDMENTS AND STUFF COMES IN FRONT OF US AS WELL.
THE OTHER THING IS ALSO ANYTHING IN THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY COMES IN FRONT OF US FOR REVIEW.
UM, WE TRY TO STAY ABREAST OF THE FUTURE PLANS FOR SMALL AREA PLANNING.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE HELPED MAKE THAT, THAT DENT AND THAT PUSH FOR BETTER SMALLER PLANS, AND ESPECIALLY EVEN FINDING OUT WHERE THEY SHOULD GO, THEN YOU CAN JOIN US.
SOMETIMES IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF EFFORT AND NOTHING COMES OUT, BUT THE DISCUSSION DOES DO WELL WITH STAFF ON WHERE THINGS COULD POTENTIALLY LEAD TO.
UH, HOW OFTEN ARE THEY, IS THIS GROUP MEETING RIGHT NOW? OR WILL THIS GROUP, SO TYPICALLY EVERY OTHER MONTH.
AND, UM, IF THERE'S NO CASES, THEN IT GOES, YOU KNOW, THEN WE KIND OF SKIPPED, BUT WE CAN ALSO PUT STUFF ON THE AGENDA AND MEET.
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OKAY.ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE I'D MAKE SOME NOMINATIONS? I HAVE ONE QUICK, ONE QUICK QUESTION.
HOW OFTEN DOES THE COMPREHENSIVE DRUNK COMMITTEE MEET QUARTERLY? RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER FLORES, UNLESS THEY CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, WHICH THEY MIGHT, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP ON SOME ITEMS, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S QUARTERLY AND THAT JOINT BETWEEN PLANNING AND THAT YEAH, CORRECT.
SO, UM, THE LAST ROOF, I GUESS, JUST, UH, WHILE WE'RE, UM, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, CAN YOU JUST, AGAIN, QUICKLY SPEAK TO THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE? YEAH, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THAT IT'S A REAL DIVERSE, UM, GROUP IN TERMS OF THE COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS THAT THEY REPRESENT EVERYTHING FROM, UH, THE ELECTRIC UTILITY AND WATER AND WASTEWATER TO, UM, TO LAND USE AND, UH, FOOD SUSTAINABILITY.
UH, IT FOCUSES ON THE, I THINK THE INTERSECTION OF, UM, EQUITY ISSUES AND SUSTAINABILITY.
AND, UM, IT'S VERY INTERESTING.
IT DOESN'T MEET MONTHLY THOUGH.
THE MEETINGS AREN'T TOO INTENSE.
UM, THE MAIN JOB IS TO REVIEW THE, UM, AUSTIN'S CLIMATE PLAN, WHICH HAPPENS ONCE IT ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS, BUT IT'S LIKE REGULARLY LOOKED AT.
UM, SO WE JUST GOT THROUGH THAT.
IT'LL BE A COUPLE MORE YEARS BEFORE THAT, THAT COMES UP AGAIN, THOUGH.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER ISSUES IN THE INTERIM.
DO YOU HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS? I I'D BE WILLING TO LOOK AT THE SMALLER, THEY ALL SOUND REALLY INTERESTING.
I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL DOING WORTHWHILE THINGS IN, BUT I'D BE WILLING TO LOOK AT THE SMALL AREA.
SO I'M GOING TO MAKE, UH, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, UM, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE, UM, COMMISSIONER, UM, PARTS FOR CONTINENTS TO THE PLAN JOINT PERMISSION, OR LOOSE TALLER FOR SMALLER PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE AND AMISS IN THEIR PRACTICES FOR THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE.
UM, AND I SEE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SR.
AND DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THOSE NOMINATIONS? ALL RIGHT.
CAN I DO ONE MORE COUNT? SORRY, FOLKS.
AND, UM, SO THE NEXT STEP IS THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE RECOMMENDATIONS OF GO TO COUNCIL OR, UM, FOR APPROVAL.
SO, AND THEY USUALLY DON'T TAKE THAT LONG TO APPROVE THOSE.
SO APPRECIATE IT AND REACH OUT TO COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE SERVING ON THOSE JOINT COMMITTEES, UH, FOR ANY MORE INFORMATION, UH, YOU KNOW, ON WHAT THEY'RE ALL ABOUT.
BUT, UH, THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE WORK THAT THIS, UH, PC WE RELY ON THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT WE DO HERE.
UH, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THE LAST ITEM, UH, ON OUR AGENDA
[F. BOARDS, COMMITTEES & WORKING GROUPS UPDATES]
ITEM F UH, ANYTHING OF COURT CODES AND ORDINANCES, UM, COMMISSIONER CZAR.WE, WE DID APPROVE THE UNO CHANGES RECOMMENDED BY STAFF RIGHT IN OUR MEETING.
SO THOSE LOOK TO BE COMING BACK HERE, I BELIEVE, UH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UH, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD THERE? COMMISSIONER AZHAR ON THAT COMMITTEE? I THINK WE ARE WAITING ON, UM, VOTING ON OUR LEADERSHIP UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE, UH, NOTHING, UH, JOIN SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE, ANYTHING TO UPDATE THERE YOU ARE.
A SMALLER AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE, COMMISSIONER, SHEA.
YOU WANT TO ANY ACTION MEMBERS? SO WE MET, WE HAD, UM, TWO MAJOR CASES.
ONE WAS ON EAST RIVERSIDE I, 35, UM, PORTER MIXED, YOU START GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE HEIGHT
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ON THAT.AND, UM, IT WAS MOSTLY BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY, SO THERE WAS NOBODY WHO WAS AGAINST IT.
UM, PRETTY MUCH MOST EVERYBODY SUPPORTED IT.
UH, IT BROUGHT MORE HOUSING AND MIXED USE TO IT.
AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO HAD A PRESENTATION AT LAMAR BEACH, WHICH IS, UM, THE PROPERTY THAT'S ALONG THE CESAR CHAVEZ, JUST, UH, WEST OF THE YMCAS, THAT WHOLE AREA OVER THERE.
UH IT'S IT WAS KIND OF, UH, WE LEARNED ABOUT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY EFFORT IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF, UH, WHAT THAT SITE PLAN WOULD BE.
AND, UH, WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS THAT MADE SURE IT DIDN'T, UM, MESS WITH THE, UH, THE, KIND OF THE NEW LAMAR, UH, CESAR CHAVEZ RECONNECTION, SO THAT MASTER PLAN CAN STILL STAY INTACT, BUT THAT SHOULD BE A GOOD, UM, GOOD DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CONNECTIVITY THAT'S GOING TO BRING ABOUT FOR LIKE THAT CLARKSVILLE AREA TO, TO HAVE, UH, PEOPLE CROSS OVER THE TRACKS AND THEN ONTO, UM, AUSTIN HIGH.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, UPDATE FROM SMALL AREA PLANNING PROJECTS, UM, UH, FROM STAFF.
ANYTHING FROM THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD, MR. THOMPSON? UH, WE HAD TO CANCEL OUR MEETING BECAUSE OF A SCHEDULE SNAFU, I GUESS, UH, IN OUR MEETING TOMORROW.
AND NOW, UH, WE WANT, UH, THE REMAINING TIME THAT MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP, UH, COMMISSIONER TALKS TO THAT.
CAN YOU GIVE US A QUICK UPDATE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN WHAT YOU PLAN KIND OF MOVING FORWARD AND I'LL, I'LL JUST SPEAK AFTER YOU KIND OF OUTLINE WHAT YOU THINK THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE.
YEAH, SO I, I GUESS WE MET LAST WEEK HOPING THAT WE'D HAVE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS BY THE TIME WE MET AT ME WITH SORT OF REVIEWED THEM AND, AND TALK THROUGH THEM, BUT, BUT WE DIDN'T.
UM, SO I THINK AT THAT TIME WE DID DECIDE THAT WE SORT OF PENCILED IN, UH, ANOTHER MEETING FOR THIS SATURDAY.
UM, AND IF EVERYONE CONFIRMS THAT, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GET SOMETHING IN.
UH, AND I THINK THAT THE IDEA THERE WAS TO BEGIN TO DRAFT SOME, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AND, AND AMENDMENTS THAT WE WOULD PUT FORWARD.
UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, NOT EXPECTING THAT, YOU KNOW, ONLY THE TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP WOULD COME UP WITH AMENDMENTS, BUT THAT WE WOULD TRY TO AT LEAST PACKAGE OURS UP SO THAT THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, IF DIFFERENT PEOPLE WERE THINKING DIFFERENT THINGS, SO THERE WOULD BE SORT OF FEWER NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY ELSE HAS AMENDMENTS AS WELL, AND WE SORT OF SUBMIT THEM TO, TO ANDREW AND CORRELATE THEM, AND THEN I GUESS WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE SCHEDULE AND THEN WE WOULD REVIEW THAT.
SO, UM, THE, UH, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A SPREADSHEET FOR THE OTHER MEMBERS TO ADD AMENDMENTS AND SUBMIT THOSE TO ANDREW.
AND ALSO, I WANT, I'LL PUT FORTH A I'LL SHARE WITH YOU COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, KIND OF, UH, WHAT I SEE AS KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE RULES THAT WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH A CONSIDERATION OF THOSE AMENDMENTS AND TAKING ACTION ON THEM, UM, BASED ON SOME OTHER MEETINGS WHERE WE'VE DONE THAT.
UM, SO I'LL WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
AND SO AS FAR AS SCHEDULE, I'M HEARING, UM, YOU KNOW, MID, MID, LATE MAY.
AND SO WE MAY ACTUALLY BE WORKING ON OUR AMENDMENTS, AND I GUESS WE HAVE SOME TIME IN JUNE ACTUALLY NOW THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY FORMALLY MEET IN A MEETING IN JUNE.
DOES THAT SOUND, UH, DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT TO YOU? IT, IT DOES.
IF IT SAYS, IF ANYONE, IF THEY HAVE 31 DAYS AND IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE TWO OR THREE WEEKS TO RELEASE THAT, THEN IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD, WE COULD DO THAT.
SO, UH, THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE TO GO AHEAD AND AS YOU'RE WORKING WITH YOUR, UH, WORK GROUP, UM, I WILL WORK ON GETTING KIND OF THE TEMPLATE OUT, UH, FOR CAPTURING THOSE AMENDMENTS FROM EACH OF THE MEMBERS HERE.
AND THEN ALSO AS I COMMITTED TO SEND A DRAFT OF, KIND OF BE A PROCEDURE FOR, YOU KNOW, DEBATE, UH, ONCE WE HAVE THOSE AMENDMENTS AND DECIDE ON A DATE.
SO, UH, WE DON'T NEED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THOUGH NOW KIND OF THE 11TH OF THE 25TH, I'D SAY, UH, THE 11TH IS A NO-GO, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REALLY KIND OF, A LOT OF, UH, ITEMS COME FORWARD THAT GOT PUSHED OFF THIS EVENING.
UH, SO WE WON'T DO ANY CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENTS NEXT TIME WE MAY, UH, THE 25TH, MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY.
UH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AS THE EARLIEST DATE FOR, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING AMENDMENTS.
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IT MAY TAKE MORE THAN ONE MEETING.IF, IF WE NEED TO, OR MAYBE NOT, WE'VE, UH, I'VE BEEN SURPRISED IN THE PAST.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, WITH THAT, ANYTHING ELSE, UH, ON WITH YOUR, UH, WORKING GROUP COMMISSIONER THOMPSON THAT YOU WANT TO MENTION? I DON'T THINK SO.
SO WITH THAT, WE BEAT 10 O'CLOCK.
IT IS NINE 54, AND I AM AN ATTORNEY IN THIS MEDIA AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION.