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[Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order]

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MAY 7TH, 2021 AT SIX OH FOUR.

UM, WE'LL JUST DO A ROLL CALL.

JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND, UM, SAY HERE OR PRESENT, UH, AS WE GO AROUND THE ROOM, I'LL JUST, UH, LET'S SEE.

WE'LL START WITH THE COMMISSIONER IS OUR, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY, UH, COMMISSIONER FLORES, UH, VICE CHAIR.

HEMPEL, UH, COMMISSIONER OF MITCH TODDLER.

UM, AND LET'S SEE, I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, UH, COMMISSIONER SHEA.

I SEE YOUR, THERE YOU GO.

OKAY.

UH, AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON AND THEN THE OTHERS.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE HERE YET.

UH, WELL, DO I GET COMMISSIONER COX? I CALL YOU.

OKAY.

THERE WE GO.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, COMMISSIONER, HOWARD'S BEEN AROUND.

OH, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE.

I AM MISSING THE BLUE ONES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

I HAVE THESE, UH, SO COMMISSIONER HOWARD, UH, YOU'RE HERE.

SO THE OTHER ONES WERE THE RED ONES.

YEAH, I'M SORRY.

I HAVE IT ALTERNATING COLORS SO I COULD DIFFERENTIATE THEM, BUT IT STILL DIDN'T HELP.

UH, IT MEANS NOTHING.

UH, AND I'M HERE, UH, CHAIR SHAW.

AND LET'S SEE.

UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD.

I WANT TO ANNOUNCE WE HAVE A R A I S D EX OFFICIO.

UH, ART BASED THING IS HERE THIS EVENING.

AND, UM, I'M GOING TO JUST SO NOT YOU, UH, IF YOU WANT THE TIME TO SAY A FEW WORDS, UH, UM, THESE REALLY AREN'T WORKING, SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM OFF.

HI EVERYONE.

MY NAME'S, ARTHIE SAYING I'M ONE OF THE AT-LARGE TRUSTEES FOR AUSTIN ISD.

I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE BOARD SECRETARY.

UM, I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE, UM, THE BOARD REPRESENTATIVE.

THIS WAS MY TOP CHOICE, UH, FOR, UH, FOR MY COMMITTEE SERVICE.

SO I'M REALLY PLEASED TO BE HERE.

I'VE ALREADY HAD THE PLEASURE OF CHATTING WITH TODD AND WITH, UM, OF HIS AS WELL, UM, TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE WORK YOU'RE DOING, AND I'M HAPPY TO BE A RESOURCE AND SUPPORT OF THE WORK OF THIS WONDERFUL GROUP.

SO THANK YOU FOR, UM, FOR HAVING ME PART, BE PART OF THIS COMMISSION.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I SEE, UH, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER AND POLITO IS JOINED US.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S FOR THE TECH CHALLENGES.

UH, SO, UH, LET'S SEE.

I MIGHT ALSO RECOGNIZE, UH, COMMISSIONER DON LAYTON BURWELL.

SO I AM TOLD YOU ARE NEARING THE END OF YOUR SERVICE AS SOON AS WE CAN FIND A REPLACEMENT.

IS THAT TRUE? THAT IS CORRECT.

I'M, UH, I'VE RESIGNED FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

UH, SO I'LL BE FULFILLING MY LAST, UM, ROLE AS CHAIRMAN AT THE MAIN MEETING.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY WE'LL FIND A REPLACEMENT FOR ME YET.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO, I'M NOT SURE.

I WANT TO SAY, UM, THERE'S, THIS WILL BE SOME VERY LARGE SHOES TO FILL BECAUSE YOU HAVE OFTEN, UH, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTED WITH YOUR, IS THE EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE YOU HAVE AND BROUGHT A LOT OF ISSUES TO THIS GROUP THAT HAVE BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL.

SO, UH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, IN, I DON'T KNOW FOR, UH, IN THE EVENT, WE DON'T, I HOPE YOU, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO BE BACK IN MAY, BUT, UM, IF, IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING JUST IN THE EVENT, WE DON'T SEE YOU AGAIN.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US? NO, UH, I, I TH THIS PROBABLY WILL BE MY LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND, AND I JUST THANK EVERYBODY FOR LETTING ME SIT IN, UH, THESE, UH, MANY MONTHS NOW, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS AND I APPRECIATE Y'ALL SERVICE AND IT WAS A PLEASURE TO SERVE WITH YOU.

WELL, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, UH, AND LET'S, UM, GO AHEAD, UH, AND MOVE IN TO, UH, COMMISSIONERS, JUST A FEW ITEMS, UM, HAVE YOUR RED, GREEN, AND YELLOW ITEMS JUST FOR VOTING.

THANK YOU.

UM, REMAIN MUTED, UH, WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING AND RAISE YOUR HAND TO BE RECOGNIZED.

UH, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE, SO IF I DO NOT SEE YOUR HAND, GO UP, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE AND LET ME KNOW.

CAUSE IT'S, UH, WE, UH, WE'RE, UH, WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY HERE NOW.

WE'RE NO VACANCIES, SO IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO SEE

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YOU RAISE YOUR HAND.

UM, SO FOR THE PARTICIPANTS OUT THERE, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE AND, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, TODAY, UH, IF YOUR ITEM IS, FOR SOME REASON PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMAIN ON THE LINE.

YOU'LL RECEIVE AN EMAIL WHEN WE'RE ABOUT 15 MINUTES OUT FROM T TAKING UP YOUR ITEM.

UH, AGAIN, I'LL TRY TO WALK THROUGH THE STEPS WE TAKE, UH, BOTH FOR ME AND OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS.

UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, GOT ONE, I THINK, ONE DISCUSSION CASE TODAY, BUT WE DO HAVE WANT TO CONSIDER SOME THINGS ON THE POSTPONEMENT TIME PERIOD ON, UH, OUR CASES B 12 THREE, B 14, THAT WE'LL BE TAKING A LOOK AT.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WE'LL START,

[Reading of Agenda]

UM, LOOKING AT THE CONSENT AGENDA AND LET'S SEE, WE'VE GOT, UM, FIRST OF ALL, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE CHANGES TO, UH, THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 13TH? I SEE NONE.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THOSE MINUTES UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA AND UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, I'M GOING TO READ THESE OFF.

SO IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE.

UM, WE HAVE B ONE IS A REZONING.

IT'S A CASE NUMBER C 14 2020 ZERO ZERO EIGHT, NINE 12.

AND SPRINGDALE RESIDENTS SAYS, UH, THIS IS, UH, APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 25TH.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS CONDUCTING A GROUND TENANT TRAY, UH, PENETRATION RADAR SURVEY AT THE SITE.

UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE POSTPONEMENT.

UH, I DON'T NEED TO, AS A PLAN AMENDMENT, UM, ORDINARILY WE WOULD TAKE THAT UP WITH THE REZONING, UH, BUT, UH, PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, B2 MTA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE SIX ZERO FOUR DASH SEVEN 12, UH, OH SEVEN, 12 AND SEVEN 14 PETRONELLA STREET AND 2,409 COORDINATOR STREET.

UH, THIS IS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT UNTIL MAY 11TH.

IT'S A FIRST REQUEST AND, UM, UH, APPLICANT IS IN AGREEMENT.

AND THEN SIMILARLY THE THREE AS THE REZONING, UH, C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO ONE ONE SEVEN 12 AND SEVEN 14 PETRONELLIS STREET AND 2,409 CORONADO STREET.

THIS IS NEIGHBORHOOD POSTS UNTIL MAY 11TH.

UH, IT'S THE FIRST REQUEST RECOMMENDATION.

LET'S SEE.

OH, THIS IS ACTUALLY, UH, APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A STEP THREE NPA TO CSM UNP.

STAFF'S RECOMMENDING LRM UNP, UH, MOVING ON TO, UM, OUR CONSENT ITEM BEFORE, AND WE WILL HAVE, UH, SOMEBODY JUST SEEKING TO DECIDE THEM, UM, BRIEFLY, UM, IN A MOMENT, UH, IT'S, UH, ITEM C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO THREE ZERO EIGHT.

LEFT HOTEL IS ON CONSENT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF, L I P D A N P TO L I P D A N T TO CHANGE A CONDITION OF ZONING.

UM, ITEM B FIVE IS ON CONSENT.

THIS IS, UH, REZONINGS CASE NUMBER C 14 2021 DASH ZERO ZERO TWO ACTON SITE.

AND IT IS, UM, ERC CMU TO ERC CMU TO PROVIDE ELIGIBILITY FOR DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.

THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND ON CONSENT WE HAVE, UH, ITEM B SIX REZONING CASE NUMBER C EIGHT ONE FOUR DASH 2020 ZERO ONE THREE TWO CENTRAL HEALTH PUD.

UH, THIS IS POSTPONED STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO MAY 11TH.

IT'S THE FIRST REQUEST, UM, CITY OF AUSTIN HOUSING, UH, PLANNING, UH, IT'S GOING FROM P TO P U D.

RIGHT? UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS, WILL BE HEARD ON MAY 11TH.

WE HAVE ITEM B IS SEVEN, UH, WHICH IS A HERITAGE TREE CASE TP ONE EIGHT TWO TWO FOUR ONE AT WINCHESTER 10 FIELD BILL, UM, AND THE STAFF, UH, HIS REQUESTS ARE POSTPONED UNTIL MAY 11TH.

IT'S A FIRST

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REQUEST.

ADDITIONAL TIME IS NEEDED TO DETERMINE HEALTH OF THE TREES AND APPROPRIATE VARIANCE PROCESS.

WE HAVE EITHER BA, WHICH IS ON CONSENT.

UM, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY PLAN CASE NUMBER C H J.

THAT IS 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ONE THREE WEST BELLA FOR TUNA.

AND THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

UH, LET'S SEE, MOVING ON TO B NINE, THIS IS A FINAL PLAT WITH VARIANTS, UH, CASE NUMBER CA 2020 DASH ZERO ONE SIX ZERO.ZERO, A SAND BEACH OVERLOOK SUBDIVISION.

UH, THIS IS A DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS, UH, PER THE EXHIBIT C OF THE STAFF REPORT.

AND, UH, THIS WAS CASES FOR APPROVAL OF ONE LOT SUBDIVISION ON 0.9, FOUR SEVEN ACRES, UH, WITH A VARIANCE FROM LDC 25 DASH FOUR THAT'S ONE 71, UH, ROUGE REQUIRES EACH LOT IN A SUBDIVISION TWO A, BUT A DEDICATED PUBLIC STREET.

AGAIN, THIS IS DISAPPROVED FOR REASONS.

WE HAVE ITEM B B 10, WHICH IS FINAL PLAT CASE NUMBER CA 2020.

YES.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I'M GETTING SOME FEEDBACK NOW.

UH, THE CA 2020 ZERO ZERO TWO ONE.

UM, I GUESS GO AHEAD AND MUTE FOLKS.

SO I'M GETTING SOME FEEDBACK THAT JUST STARTED, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON.

UH, THIS IS ITEM B 10 CASE NUMBER CA 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO TWO ONE.ZERO EIGHT FOUR TO BRANCH CREEK SUBDIVISION.

THIS IS FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF EIGHT LOT SUBDIVISION ON 2.9 ACRES.

UH, THIS IS DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS AND AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C OF THE STAFF REPORT AND MOVING ON TO B 11, WHICH IS A PART APPEAL CASE NUMBER SP 2019 ZERO SIX ZERO ZERO C WILDER.

THIS IS OUR DISCUSSION IT DISCUSSION CASE FOR THIS EVENING, AND IT'S A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO UPHOLD THE DIRECTOR'S DECISION.

SO NOW WE MOVE TO, UH, ITEMS B 12, I'LL START WITH, UH, B12 THREE, B 14, UH, B12 IS A PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, UPWARD FOR DISCUSSION, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER WE, UM, UH, IN A SECOND, UH, URP FOR EAST 11TH AND 12TH STREET, URBAN RENEWAL AREA MODIFICATION, NUMBER 12.

AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ON THIS ITEM AND B 13 AND B 14, UM, I'M GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE, UH, GO AHEAD AND POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE MEETING AFTER NEXT, AND HAVE STAFF PROVIDE A BRIEFING ON THIS ITEM, IN ADDITION TO THE ZONING CASES THAT I'LL TALK ABOUT SHORTLY, UH, BUT HAVE STAFF COME BACK ON MAY 11TH, UM, TO, UM, TO GIVE US A BRIEFING.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THAT UP RIGHT AFTER, UM, THIS ITEM, BUT FOR NOW ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, IT'S, UH, SHOWN AS A DISCUSSION ITEM.

SIMILARLY FOR B 13, THE REZONING CASE C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO 33 EAST 11TH STREET, NCCD AMENDMENT.

UM, THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND I'LL JUST SAY THE ERB RECOMMENDATIONS DO DIFFER FROM THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, ITEM D 14, REZONING C 14 2021 DASH ZERO ZERO 37 EAST WALL STREET, NCCD AMENDMENT, UH, RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

BUT AGAIN, YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS DIFFER FROM THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

SO, UM, DO I HAVE ANY, UM, COMMISSIONERS THAT NEED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FOR ANY OF THESE ITEMS? ALL RIGHT.

I'M NOT SEEING ANY HANDS, UH, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE ON CONSENT OR DISCUSSION, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY? UM, I DON'T WANT TO PULL ANYTHING.

I JUST, I WAS HOPING TO GET JUST A CLARIFICATION OF WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR ITEMS A, B 12, 13, AND 14.

YES.

WE'RE GOING, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS Q AND A ABOUT THOSE ITEMS OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO ENTIRELY PUT THEM OFF? I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT WE'LL DO IS THEY'RE ON DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW

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ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT THE NEXT SIDE, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER TO PUT A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT NEXT ON THOSE THREE ITEMS. UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THROUGH WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT ONE.

UM, SO I HAVE, I KNOW AN ITEM I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND IF WE HAVE, UM, MR. C AS, BEFORE I BELIEVE I'M GOING TO NEED HELP HERE.

I THINK IT WAS, WAS IT MR. CANTU THAT WANTED TO SPEAK TO ITEM D FOR CORRECT? UH, ARE YOU AVAILABLE MR. CANTU? NO, MARIO CAN TO STAR SIX TO UNMUTE IF YOU'RE OUT THERE.

MR. DID YOURSELF.

ANDREW, DO WE HAVE MR. KENTU AVAILABLE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LIAISON.

I DO HAVE HIM ON THE LINE.

HELLO.

WE'LL JUST SELECT STAR SIX AND PROCEED.

WELL THOUGHT IT'S JENNIFER MUCH TALLER WHILE WE'RE WAITING.

IF MR. CANTU'S AVAILABLE.

IF WE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, UM, DO WE PULL THOSE FOR DISCUSSION? IS THAT HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO WORK? YES.

IF YOU, UM, HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT THAT YOU FEEL IN YOU NEED, DO YOU WANT ANSWERS TO, I MEAN, SOMETIMES WE'LL ENTERTAIN BRIEF INQUIRIES DURING THOSE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT IF IT GETS TOO DETAILED, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PULL IT.

SO DO YOU HAVE A, UM, UH, DO YOU HAVE A QUICK CLARIFICATION OR QUESTION THAT I AGED OUT AND I, I DIDN'T, UM, I DON'T THINK WE HIT THE CUTOFF TIMING ON THE SAND.

I THINK IT WAS THE SAND BEACH.

I CAN PULL UP THAT CASE ON THAT.

I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT WHEN THAT WAS THE, UM, LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE THE RIGHT ONE THERE, IT WAS B NINE, JUST CHECKING IT TO MAKE SURE I HAD THE RIGHT ONE.

YEAH, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE.

I WAS CONFUSED ON IT BECAUSE THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THERE AT FIRST, I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE AN SF ONE, BUT I GUESS IT'S COMMERCIAL AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE A WAY TO GET TO A PUBLIC STREET DIRECTLY FROM THAT PROPERTY.

SO WE, WE WERE HAVING SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND THOUGHT THAT MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION.

YEAH.

SO, UM, I GUESS COMMISSIONERS, THIS ONE IS DISAPPROVED FOR REASONS.

SO WE TYPICALLY DON'T HEAR THOSE CASES, UH, IN AND HELPED ME OUT HERE.

IF ANY COMMISSIONERS THERE'S MORE WORK ON THE APPLICANT THAT I THINK THEY NEED TO DO FOR THIS TO COME BACK IS I UNDERSTAND.

SO, UH, WE PROBABLY MAY HEAR THIS AGAIN, BUT IT, I GUESS THEY NEED TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENTS THAT STAFF HAS LAID OUT IN THEIR EXHIBIT C REPORT.

THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND THIS.

AND THEN WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE, UH, MARIO KID TOO AVAILABLE? I'M NOT ANDREW.

IF WE'RE GOING TO GO ON AND MOVE ON IT, LET'S SEE.

TELL ME, YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THEM ON BOARD.

MR. ROMERO, CHAIR COMMISSION LIAISON ON RIVER.

SO I DO HAVE HIM ON THE LINE, MR. CONTOUR, IF IT'S AN EERIE SILENCE OUT THERE, LIKE I LOST MY LIFELINE.

OKAY.

UH, CHAIR.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GO AND, UH, LET ME JUST REPEAT THE ITEMS WE HAVE ON CONSENT.

UH, JUST RUN THROUGH THIS AGAIN.

ONE MORE TIME.

UH, WE HAVE ITEMS, UH, WE HAVE THE MINUTES, APRIL 30TH MINUTES.

THERE'LL BE ON CONSENT.

WE HAVE, UH, ITEMS B ONE AND B, UH, B ONE WILL BE DELAYED TILL POSTPONE UNTIL MAY 25TH.

WE HAVE THE TWO POSTPONE UNTIL MAY 11TH, 83 POSTPONED TO MAY 11TH.

WE HAVE ITEMS BEFORE, UH, ON CONSENT, B FIVE ON CONSENT.

WE HAVE ITEM B SIX, UH, STAFF RESPONDED TO MAY 11TH.

UH, WE HAVE SEVEN STAFF POSTPONEMENT UNTIL MAY 11TH.

UH, WE HAVE B EIGHT, WHICH IS ON CONSENT AND BENIGN DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS TO BE 10 DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS, WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE 11 AND WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEMS, B12 THREE D

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13 OF THE 14, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE IN JUST AFTER WE, UH, GO AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? UH, APPROVED THE MINUTES AND THE CONSENT? YES.

YES.

MR. CANTU IS ON THE LINE NOW.

OKAY, GO AHEAD, MR. CANTU, UH, STAR SIX.

UM, MR. CANTU, IF YOU'LL I SEE YOU JUST MUTED YOURS, IF YOU'LL CALL REBECCA, I HEAR YOU.

THANKS.

YEAH, NO, THIS IS GREAT.

THIS IS A GREAT THING.

UH, WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON, WE'RE WAITING ON THIS.

UM, JUST FOLLOWING UP ON COMMISSIONER, MOST QUESTIONS.

SO DISAPPROVAL FOR REASON MEANS IT'S MORE OF LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, THING WITH STAFF.

SORRY.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

YEAH.

SO, UM, MR. COX IS UNAWARE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXHIBIT C THERE'S, A STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE CASE AND DEAN, UH, AND HAS NOT APPROVED IT YET FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT, UM, MS. ROSE IS, IS, UH, MRS. WINDY ROAD, SARAH.

CAUSE CAN YOU CLARIFY IT? THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS ACCURATE ITEM BEFORE.

OH, WHEN WE SEE ITEMS, UH, UM, NO.

WHEN WE SEE, UH, DISAPPROVED FOR REASONS, WHEN YOU, UH, THAT IS A STAFF DETERMINATION, THAT THE ITEM IS NOT, IS NOT SATISFIED THE STAFF, UH, THE REQUIREMENTS .

I HAVE SUBDIVISION STAFF TO PROVIDE A REQUEST OR A RESPONSE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

HELLO? HELLO COMMISSION.

UH, THIS IS STEVE HOPKINS.

I SUPERVISED THE SUBDIVISION REVIEW GROUP.

UM, I GUESS YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS NAMES.

YES.

UH, IF YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMISSION, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

YES, CERTAINLY.

UH, SO THE COMMISSION HAS THREE OPTIONS FOR ACTION ON A SUBDIVISION APPLICATION.

FIRST IS APPROVED AS SUBMITTED, WHICH MEANS THERE IS NOTHING LEFT FOR THE APPLICANT TO DO THE APP.

THE PLAT IS IN PERFECT CONDITION.

THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND START THE RECORDING PROCESS.

THAT IS EXTREMELY RARE.

THE SECOND OPTION IS TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS THAT'S UNUSUAL.

BUT WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IT'S, THE APPLICATION HAS REACHED A POINT IN THE REVIEW PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE THE ONLY THINGS LEFT TO DO OR SOMETHING THAT IS VERY ADMINISTRATIVE WITHOUT ANY DISCRETION.

THAT MEANS SOMETHING LIKE YOU NEED TO RECORD AN EASEMENT, OR YOU NEED TO PAY A FEE.

UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT YOU NEED TO DO TO THE PLAT.

THE THIRD OPTION IS DISAPPROVED FOR REASONS AND THAT'S EVERYTHING ELSE.

THAT'S THE MOST COMMON THING YOU WILL SEE.

IT MEANS THAT BETH HAS REVIEWED THIS, AND THERE ARE STILL SOME ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

UM, THERE COULD BE ISSUES THAT THEY NEED TO CHANGE SOME PLAT NOTES, MAYBE THERE'S, UM, SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES.

THEY NEED TO UPDATE THEIR DRAINAGE PLAN.

UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME MORE REVIEW ITEMS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED BY ONE OR MORE REVIEWERS.

UH, IF YOU DISAPPROVE A PLAT FOR REASONS, THAT MEANS THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT AN UPDATE TO ADDRESS THOSE REASONS.

AND YOU WILL HEAR IT AGAIN AT ANOTHER HEARING.

DID THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? ARE THERE ANY MORE, DO YOU NEED SOME MORE CLARIFICATION ON THAT? AH, I SEE COMMISSIONER SHAY HAS A QUICK QUESTION THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.

SO COMMISSIONER, UM, UH, CHERISH ALL, IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION.

IT'S MORE OF A CLARIFICATION, I THINK, JUST SO THE COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTAND IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR IT FROM STAFF, BUT ON THE APPLICANTS SIDE, BASICALLY WHEN WE SUBMIT A SITE PLAN, WE SUBMIT PRELIMINARY PLAN.

ALL THAT STUFF GIVES IT, GOES INTO THE CITY AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH IT.

THEN THERE'S COMMENTS THAT GO BACK FROM

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THE, UH, FROM THE REVIEWERS THAT GO BACK TO THE DIFFERENT PARTIES FROM THE ENGINEERS TO DEVELOPERS AND THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS ALL THOSE COMMENTS.

SO THE THING IS BECAUSE OF TIMING, THERE'S A TIMELINE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT BACK, UM, IN ORDER TO REVIEW THINGS BACK AND FORTH.

AND OFTENTIMES, UH, BY LIKE WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE, WHEN THEY SUBMIT SOMETHING TO CITY THAT WE HAVE TO ACT ON IT WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIMEFRAME, THAT TIMEFRAME MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH TIME FOR EVERYBODY TO WORK THROUGH ALL THIS.

THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPERS.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IN FRONT OF US.

WE HAVE TO ACT ON THIS, EVEN IF IT'S TO DENY IT AT THIS POINT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE ACTING ON IT.

SO THIS CAN CONTINUE ON THROUGH THE NEGOTIATIONS.

BASICALLY THEY'RE NOT DONE YET, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON SOMETHING AND THAT'S WHY IT'S HERE.

SO WHEN WE SAY, OKAY, UM, YOU KNOW, DISAPPROVAL OR CONDITIONS, THEN IT JUST KEEPS GOING ON UNTIL THEY'RE READY UNTIL ALL THE COMMENTS ARE CLEARED AND IT COMES TO US.

THAT'S BASICALLY THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU.

SO I THINK WE HAVE MR. KENTU ON, WE'VE MANAGED TO, UH, GET A LOT DONE HERE NOW.

GOOD DISCUSSION WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON MR. CANNON TO, UH, PC, UH, STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.

YES, SIR.

CAN YOU HEAR ME COMMISSIONERS? YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

UH, SWEAR TO GIVE A QUICK INSIGHT TO THE APPLICANT, MR. HOFFMAN, THAT WE WORK WITH HER ON THE MISS ALOFT HOTEL, BEFORE WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO HER.

AND IT WAS GOOD WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT AND, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THEY GET THE ZONING THEY NEED FOR THIS PARTICULAR HOTEL.

SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

OKAY.

APPRECIATE THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I THINK, UM,

[Consent Agenda]

UH, WHERE WE WERE IS I WAS LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, AND I HEAR A, UH, I HEAR A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER, UH, VICE CHAIR, HEMPHILL, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ZAR AND GO AND VOTE, UH, CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, PER THE MINUTES AND THE CONSENT AGENDA.

AND I SEE WE'VE GOT ONE.

OKAY.

WE'VE GOT 12 AND THAT'S THE NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS I HAVE COUNTED FOR THIS EVENING.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

[Items B12. - B14. (Part 1 of 2)]

ALRIGHT.

SO THE NEXT SIDE AND WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IS, UM, WHAT TO DO, UH, WHETHER OR NOT TO POSTPONE OR HERE ITEMS B 12, B 13 AND B 14.

WE HAVE THE OPTION TO, UH, HEAR THOSE IN TANDEM.

UH, STAFF CAN MAKE A PRESENTATION OR STAFF IS THE APPLICANT.

SO THEY WOULD BE GIVEN, UH, SIX MINUTES AS THE APPLICANT.

UH, THEY WOULD BE GIVEN ANOTHER THREE CAUSE THEY HAVE A SECOND SPEAKER AND THEN WE COULD GIVE THEM THE THREE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.

SO IT ROUNDS OUT TO ABOUT 12 MINUTES.

BUT, UH, IN MY MIND, UH, AFTER READING THESE CASES, UH, I THINK WE NEED MORE TIME, UH, TO PERHAPS CREATE SOME AMENDMENTS AND THINK ABOUT, UH, THESE CASES IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.

AND SO WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS, AND, UH, THE WORK FROM STAFF IS THAT THEY'RE, UM, THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS IS TO HAVE A PRESENTATION TO US ON MAY 11TH, UH, ON THESE THREE ITEMS. AND THEN WE WOULD HEAR IT, UH, LIKELY WE WOULD HEAR THE, HOW THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, UH, MAY 25TH.

AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TIME TO DEVELOP AMENDMENTS KIND OF IN BETWEEN THOSE TIMES.

AND, UM, SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME GETTING FAMILIAR WITH THESE, UH, THREE ITEMS. UM, SO IF THAT'S AMENABLE TO YOU, UH, OR WE COULD DISCUSS OTHER OPTIONS.

SO THAT'S MY PROPOSAL.

UH, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS WANT TO TALK ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS? SO WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT FOR THESE CASES, UH, COMMISSIONER COPPS.

I, THE OTHER QUESTION IS THE, IS THE POSTPONEMENT FOR THE PRESENTATION SIMPLY BECAUSE THE STAFF, UM, DOESN'T HAVE THAT PRESENTATION READY YET? NO, IT'S AFTER, UM, I DID SPEAK WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER ZAR, I THINK, AND I TALKED ABOUT IT AND THERE'S JUST, UM, TO REALLY, I THINK FOR US TO REVIEW THESE AND LOOK, COME UP WITH SOME MEANINGFUL AMENDMENTS, WHICH I THINK, UM, I DO WANT TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH IT, EVEN IF WE HAD THE PRESS, WE COULD HAVE THEM PRESENT TONIGHT AND POSTPONE IS THE OTHER OPTION THAT COULD USE THAT TIME TO, UH, GO AHEAD AND 12 MINUTES, WE COULD GET THE PRISON, YOU KNOW, HEAR THEM AS THE

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APPLICANT, UH, AND THEN POSTPONE IT AND HEAR IT LATER.

BUT IN TALKING WITH STAFF, THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF JUST MAKING A PRESENTATION ON MAY 11TH, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS IT TODAY.

BUT STAFF IS PREPARED IF WE WANT THEM TO, UH, DISCUSS THE, THESE ITEMS. THEY CAN IN OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH DOTS ON COMMISSIONER MITCH DOLLAR, IF, IF STAFF HAS PREPARED TO DISCUSS, CAUSE I LOOKED AT THOSE AND I AGREE THERE'S A LOT THERE AND WE NEED MORE TO MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, GOOD GUIDANCE ON THIS.

UM, BUT IF THEY'RE PREPARED TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT, I, I MIGHT BE IN FAVOR OF HAVING HEARING SOME AND POSTPONING.

SO AT LEAST WE GET TO BEGIN TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT, UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND MAYBE GET SOME MORE EDUCATED FEEDBACK TO THEM FOR THE FOLLOWUP.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT, THAT HEARING, UH, STAFF PRESENT AS THE APPLICANT PROCEEDING? UH, MR. CONLEY? WELL, COMMISSIONER SHAVE FIRST AND THEN GO AHEAD.

YEAH.

SO I DON'T, I ACTUALLY WAS THINKING, YEAH, WE COULD JUST POSTPONE IT ALL, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD AND HOW IT WORKS WITH THE NCCD.

IT IS, IT IS VERY COMPLICATED.

IT'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, MANY, MANY DIFFERENT ITERATIONS.

AND EVEN IF THE STAFF WERE TO AT LEAST GIVE THE NEW COMMISSIONERS, UM, AN OVERVIEW ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS A COMPLEX OVERLAY OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND THIS WAY, AS THE WEEKS GO BY, THEN WE CAN BE THINKING ABOUT HOW ALL THIS STUFF CAN BE SOMEHOW BE RE MANAGED.

UM, BUT I THINK THE IDEA WOULD BE WE, OH, WE CAN OPEN IT FOR, UH, STAFF TO GIVE US A, UM, YOU KNOW, A PRESENTATION AND WE JUST LEAVE, YOU KNOW, W W WE DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT POINT.

SO, UM, I'M ALL FOR THAT.

I THINK I KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT JUST BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S JUST BEEN HITTING US FROM SO MANY DIFFERENT SIDES, EVEN FROM SMALL AREA PLANNING, BUT, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF NEW COMMISSIONERS AND THIS IS VERY UNIQUE IN THE CITY, HOW THIS IS SET UP RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

UM, COMMISSIONER IS OUR, I'M SORRY, I'M JUST AHEAD OF QUESTION.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF WE GO AHEAD WITH A STAFF PRESENTATION TO DO WHAT THAT MEAN, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO DO YOU ANY AT A LATER DATE OR WOULD EXHAUSTED OR OPPORTUNITY FOR A Q AND A TODAY? I'M SORRY.

UM, I'M SORRY.

I WAS READING ONE.

GO AHEAD.

SAY THAT AGAIN.

COMMISSIONER IT'S ARMS APOLOGIZE.

NO WORRIES.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE GO AHEAD WITH A STAFF TODAY, WE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THE QA SESSION AT A LATER DATE.

IS THAT, AM I UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY? UM, YEAH, I THINK WE CAN JUST HEAR THE STAFF NOW BE CLEAR AND STAFF WOULD BE SPEAKING AS THE APPLICANT ON THIS MATTER.

IT WOULDN'T BE A FORMAL PRESENTATION, SO WE WOULD BE CONSTRAINING THEM TO A CERTAIN TIME PERIODS UNLESS WE WANTED TO HEAR EACH ITEM SEPARATELY, BUT THEN WE WOULD BE HERE FOR AWHILE, YOU KNOW, IF WE, UM, OKAY.

SO, UH, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS A, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND STATE THE MOTION ON THE POST, WHETHER TO POSTPONE OR NOT, WHEN I'M HEARING IS A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND HEAR, UM, THE ITEM STAFF, LET STAFF PRESENT ON THE ITEMS, THE SEASONING, AND THEN WE WILL POSTPONE, UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, Q AND A AND ACTION FOR A LATER DATE.

I WOULD SUGGEST MAY 25TH.

CAUSE I THINK MAY 11TH IS GOING TO BE A PRETTY BUSY AGENDA.

UH, COMMISSIONER CODDLING.

WE ASSEMBLE A LIST OF QUESTIONS TODAY THAT WE ARE DIRECTING STAFF TO, UM, ASKING STAFF TO COME BACK TO US WITH ANSWERS ON, UM, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS MIGHT BE THINGS THAT TAKE STAFF A LITTLE WHILE TO DO THEIR HOMEWORK ON.

YEAH.

UM, I BELIEVE WE CAN, UH, HEAR FROM THEM AND PUT TOGETHER QUESTIONS AND HAVE THAT COME BACK TO US.

UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE HEAR THIS AGAIN, UH, BUT ONE THING I, THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING A PRESENTATION, I'LL JUST SAY THIS IT'S, YOU'LL GET TO HEAR FROM THEM IN THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, AND THEN WE GET STAFF WILL COME BACK AS THE APPLICANT AND THEY CAN REFRESH US ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAD HEARD AND MAYBE ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS WE HAD AS THE APPLICANT.

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AND THEN WE MOVE INTO ADDITIONAL Q AND A AGAIN AND THEN GET TO TAKE ACTION.

SO IT ALLOWS US FOR FURTHER, UM, KIND OF EXPOSURE AND PRESENTATION TO THE SIDE.

UM, IF WE HEAR IT TONIGHT, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE JUST GOING TO MISS OUT ON THAT OPPORTUNITY FROM STAFF TO GIVE A PRESENTATION.

SO THAT THAT'S THE DOWNSIDE.

THAT ALL SOUNDS PERFECT TO ME.

MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE, OR I HAVE MIGHT NOT BE QUESTIONS THAT STAFF CAN ANSWER US ON THE SPOT.

UM, SO, UM, WE MIGHT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE STAFF ENOUGH TIME TO GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS ARE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, AND I'M GOING TO PUT FORTH THE MOTION.

UH, WE'LL WAIT, UH, COMMISSIONER MICHELLE, TYLER, YOU HAD THE, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION? AND IF YOU HAVE A SECOND, WE CAN, UM, VOTE HEARING THIS, UH, THIS EVENING, THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

SO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, BUT POSTPONE DISCUSSION FOR THE MAY 25TH MEETING.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

UH, COMMISH VICE YOUR HEMPEL I THINK HAD HER HAND UP FIRST.

SO, UM, SO ANY, I GUESS WE'LL GO AND MOVE THROUGH, UM, DISCUSSION AT THE SIDE.

WE WANT TO SPEAK, UH, IN FAVOR OF YOUR, UH, OR YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONER, MUCH TALLER AS PREVIOUSLY STATED BY COMMISSIONER SHEA.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS MOTION? ANYONE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER SHEA? SO I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY THAT THE, THAT THE MOTION IN THIS THING IS THAT IT IS THE PRESENTATION.

SO WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION HERE TO GO BACK AND FORTH.

IT'S JUST THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

THAT IS THE MOTION.

SO THERE, ISN'T A POINT WHERE WE ASK THE QUESTIONS.

JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT.

OKAY.

SO, SO THIS, WELL, LET ME JUST BE CLEAR STAFF, IS THAT A MOTION INDICATED THIS IS STAFF'S PRESENTATION AS THE APPLICANT, SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET WHATEVER THEY HAVE PREPARED FOR THIS EVENING.

IF THEY, IF WE GAVE THEM MORE TIME, THEY MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING ELSE, BUT YOU'RE GETTING AS THE APPLICANT, WHAT THEY'RE READY TO PRESENT THIS EVENING.

AND, AND IT'S ONLY ONE SIDE, IT COMES TO US AND THEN THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE, YOU KNOW, W WHAT'S ON THE TABLE, AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARD.

AND THEN QUESTIONS COULD BE ASSEMBLED AND SENT TO, UM, OUR CHAIR AND THEN HE CAN SEND THE QUESTIONS ON TO STAFF.

UH, THOSE WILL BE SENT TO, YEAH.

SO LET ME, UH, MR. QUICK QUESTION.

UH, MR. RIVERA, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.

SO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE MOTION IS TO HEAR FROM STAFF HERE, THERE IS THE APPLICANT, AND THEN WE WILL POSTPONE ANY FURTHER Q AND A AND ACTION FOR A FUTURE DATE.

AND TO GIVE US TIME TO PULL TOGETHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, IS THAT .

SO IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GO THAT ROUTE, UM, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY WE WOULD, UM, I'D PROBABLY ASK THAT WE SET A, UM, THE TIMEFRAME TO PROVIDE A DEADLINE, TO PROVIDE ME THOSE QUESTIONS SO I CAN FORWARD THOSE TO STAFF AND HAVE ADEQUATE TIME TO INCLUDE THEM IN A FUTURE BRIEFING.

OKAY.

SO, UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, SMALL, UM, SOMEBODY WANTED TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION TO PROVIDE A TIME TABLE OR QUESTIONS MR. MITCHELL DOLLAR.

YEAH, I CAN AMEND THAT.

SO, UH, GONNA TAKE BACK THAT MOTION, AMEND IT.

SO THE MOTION IS TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION FROM STAFF THIS EVENING.

UM, QUESTIONS SHOULD BE SUBMITTED TO, UH, ONE MOMENT.

SO I THINK WE DID, WE ALREADY, WE DID NOT.

DID WE VOTE ON THAT? NO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.

UM, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SHOULD BE SUBMITTED.

UM, I WOULD THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT BY THE MAY 11TH MEETING AS A DEADLINE THAT WOULD GIVE THEM AMPLE TIME TO PREPARE, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE Q AND A AND DISCUSSION AT THE MAY 25TH MEETING.

OKAY.

YOU HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION, MR. SHEA, SECOND MOTION.

UM, DO WE NEED ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? ANYBODY, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, COPS, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR?

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UH, WELL, YEAH, I'M IN FAVOR, BUT, BUT THERE'S ANY, YOU MENTIONED, UH, YOU KIND OF GAVE AN OMINOUS MENTION OF WE'RE GOING TO GET WHATEVER STAFF IS READY TO PRESENT TODAY, WHICH MAKES ME THINK THAT MAYBE STAFF WAS FULLY EXPECTING THIS, THE PRESENTATION WE POSTPONE IN THAT THEY'RE NOT PREPARED TO PRESENT.

IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING? NO, I I'D SAY, UM, WELL, WE COULD, UH, I WOULD SAY IS STAFF.

WE HAVE STAFF ON THE LINE THAT WAS GOING TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION.

SURE.

SHAW, THIS IS MARK WALTERS, HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UM, WE WERE, WE HAD A PRESENCE.

WE HAVE A PRESENTATION READY TO GO, AND WE CREATED UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PRESENTING TONIGHT.

THE, UH, BRIEFING KIND OF CAME IN TOWARDS THE END OF THE DAY.

SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO PREPARE FOR THAT BRIEFING IN THE FUTURE.

OUR THINKING WAS IS THAT WE WOULD, UH, PRESENT THE PRESENTATION, A BRIEF TO COMMISSION ON THE 11TH AND GIVE THEM THE BACKGROUND AND THE CONTEXT OF THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN AND ALL OF THAT.

AND THEN COME BACK ON THE 25TH AND PRESENT THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

SO, UH, THE, THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE, THE BRIEFING AND THE BACKGROUND.

SO WHEN THEY WENT INTO THE DELIBERATIONS, THEY WOULD HAVE, UH, THE PRESENTATION, THEY WOULD HAVE THAT BACKGROUND TO INFORM DELIBERATIONS.

YES, I'M AWARE OF THAT, I GUESS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU, YOU ALL DO ARE PREPARED TO DISCUSS THESE ITEMS THIS EVENING.

WE ARE PREPARED TO PRESENT TONIGHT.

THAT WAS THE INITIAL GAME PLAN WHEN WE, UH, 40.

OKAY.

UM, SO YES, SO THE, THE MOTION IS I UNDERSTAND IS TO, UM, JUST TO RESTATE IT, COMMISSIONER MITCHELL, TODDLER AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SAY IS TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE STAFF, UH, PRESENT AS THE APPLICANT, UH, THIS EVENING.

UH, WE WILL THEN, UM, ALLOW FOR QUESTIONS TO BE SUBMITTED TO MR. RIVERA UP THROUGH, LET'S SAY, UM, NOON, UM, BEFORE MAY, UH, OF MAY 11TH BEFORE OUR MAY 11TH MEETING.

ARE YOU OKAY? UM, I'M ADDING MORE DETAIL BECAUSE I THINK, UH, MR. RIVERA NEEDS THAT, BUT MAY 11TH IS THE DEADLINE, UH, WITH ALL OUR OTHER, UH, REQUIREMENTS NEW THIS, THE DEADLINE.

UM, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND USE THAT DEADLINE AND THEN, UH, WE WILL HAVE BEEN TAKE UP ANY QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS AND ACTION ON MAY 25TH.

IS THAT THE MOTION? OH, I'M HEARING STAFF IS GOING TO NEED MORE TIME.

SO, UH, LET'S, LET'S GO AND PULL THAT BACK.

UH, DO YOU WANT TO, LET ME GO AND SAY THIS, LET'S GO AHEAD.

UM, STAFF, LET'S GO INTO OUR STAFF.

UH, IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED, UM, FOR, UH, MAY 25TH FOR US TO TAKE ACTION.

UM, WHEN DO YOU NEED THOSE QUESTIONS BY, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS MARK WALTERS, HOUSING AND PLANNING.

I JUST DEPENDS ON THE COMPLEXITY AND THE DETAIL OF THE QUESTIONS.

UH, I WOULD SAY IT'S MAYBE A WEEK PRIOR TO THE MAY 11TH, UH, NEEDING THAT WOULD GIVE US PLENTY OF TIME TO RESEARCH ANYTHING WE MIGHT NEED TO RESEARCH AND THEN TO TAILOR OUR, A BRIEFING ON THE 11TH TO, UH, ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL AS PROVIDE BACKGROUND.

OKAY.

I THINK, UH, THE MOTION IS NOT TO FLUTE A BRIEFING.

IS THAT CORRECT? COMMISSIONER MOOSE DOLLAR.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HAVING AN ADDITIONAL BRIEFING ON THE 11TH ANY LONGER, CORRECT.

CAUSE YOU HAD SAID THE MAY 11TH AGENDA WAS GOING TO BE PRETTY PACKED, SO YES.

TRY AND GIVE THEM EXTRA WORK TIME AND EXTRA TIME FOR US TO GET QUESTIONS IN, IN PREPARATION FOR MAY 25TH.

SO MR. WALTER, DO YOU HAVE THAT? WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO PRESENT AND ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS BY THE 11TH.

THERE WILL BE NO PRESENTATION ON THE 11TH.

OKAY.

I MISUNDERSTOOD.

OKAY.

SO IF WE GET QUESTIONS SOMEBODY'S PUTTING YOUR TIME, THAT WOULD BE TWO WEEKS LEAD TIME TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN PRESENT ON THE 25TH.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GOING, THE MOTION WILL BE STAYED AS IT IS, UH, THAT WAS IN,

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SO LET'S GO AHEAD.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER MOSHE, TODDLER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SHAY.

LET'S TAKE A VOTE AND THEN ITEM.

I SEE WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY 12 BY 12 ZERO.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT IS ALL ON THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT.

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UH, WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM, WHICH IS WELL FIRST AND ONLY.

UM, WELL, NO, THE FIRST, UH, ITEM B 11, UH, THE PART APPEAL, UH, STAFF.

ARE YOU READY? UH, HELLO COMMISSIONERS SCOTT, GRANT THEM WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.

OKAY, GREAT.

UH, SO AM I CLEARED TO START MY PRESENTATION? YES, PLEASE DO.

OKAY.

UM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UH, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MY PRESENTATION GETS PULLED UP.

UM, THE AAV FOLKS DO A GREAT JOB AND I'M SURE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO FIND IT.

OKAY.

YES, I CAN SEE THE, UH, FIRST PAGE.

FANTASTIC.

UM, I'LL GET STARTED SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

UM, UM, I'M GOING TO BE QUEUING THE FOLKS TO MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY NEXT SLIDE NOW.

OVERVIEW SLIDE NUMBER TWO.

SO THIS IS A, AN APPEAL BY THE APPLICANT FOR, UM, A REQUIREMENT BY PARD FOR LAND DEDICATION.

UM, IN THIS CASE, THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING TO PAY FEE AND LOO FOR A SITE PLAN.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO CODE CONTEXT.

SO IN 25, ONE SIX OH FIVE IN THE CODE, THERE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT PART USES THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT USES TO DECIDE WHETHER THE APPLICANT WILL PAY A FEE AND LOO OR DEDICATE PARKLAND.

AND THEN THEN THE SAME CODE SECTION, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT SAYS THAT THE DECISION CAN BE APPEALED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN IT SHOULD FIRST GO TO PARKS BOARD.

SO IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT HAS DECIDED TO APPEAL AND THE CASE HAS GONE TO PARKS BOARD ON JANUARY 26TH, PARKS BOARD VOTED TO SUPPORT PARTS REQUIREMENT FOR LAND IN THIS CASE, AND TO DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, UM, FOR THESE TYPES OF APPEALS PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES THE FINAL DECISION.

SO THIS WILL NOT GO TO COUNCIL.

UM, IT WILL BE DECIDED TONIGHT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS IS A, UH, THIS IS THE WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENBELT.

THIS IS THE VISION FOR THE ENTIRE THING.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S A GRAND VISION.

IT GOES FROM ALL THE WAY FROM EAST TO WEST WEST TO EAST, UM, AND THE CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENBELT IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TODAY.

YOU CAN SEE THE YELLOW.IS, IS ROUGHLY WHERE THE SITE IS ON SOUTH CONGRESS.

UM, SO THIS IS, ARE LITERALLY FILLING IN THE GAPS AS WE GO TO CREATE THIS VISION.

AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THAT, UM, THE CENTRAL WAYS AND CREEK GREEN GREENWAY PLAN WAS JUST AT ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS IS A ZOOM, YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IN YELLOW.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THERE ARE SOME GAPS HERE IN THE GREEN BELT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FILL IN.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, ONE OTHER WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, ENTRY POINTS TO THE GREENBELT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S ONE AT SOUTH FIRST ON THE LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN.

AND THERE'S ONE ON SOUTH CONGRESS THAT IS, UH, TO THE LOWER PART OF YOUR SCREEN.

AND, UM, BOTH OF THESE ARE ABOUT A QUARTER MILE FROM THE SITE ITSELF.

AND AGAIN, THE SITE IS IN YELLOW AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT, IT, IT'S AN INTERESTING SHAPE, A PIECE AND IT WRAPS AROUND WILLIAM'S INCREASE.

SO A LOT OF FRONTAGE ON BMC CREEK.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO NUMBER SIX, UM, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SLIDE I THINK OF THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE THESE ARE THE CRITERIA THAT WE LOOK AT AT PARD DETERMINED, WHETHER IT WOULD BE A LAND, DEDICATION OR FEE AND LOU.

AND SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THESE, UM, IS IT LOCATED WITHIN WHAT WE CALL THE DEFICIENT PARK AREA MAP? UH, IS IT ADJACENT TO EXISTING PARKLAND? DOES IT HAVE SUFFICIENT ACREAGE? SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR REALLY ENOUGH ACREAGE FOR A MEANINGFUL GREEN SPACE.

UM, IT'S A QUARTER ACRE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

UM, AND NUMBER FOUR, IS IT NEEDED TO ADDRESS A CRITICAL NEED? SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE A GAP IN SAY A GREENBELT OR, UM, SOMETHING THAT WOULD REMEDY, UH, A NEED FOR PARKLAND

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AND NUMBER FIVE, WOULD IT, UH, PROVIDE FOR INCREASED CONNECTIVITY, UH, WITH EXISTING OR PLANNED PARKS? THE ANSWER TO ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS IN THIS CASE IS YES.

SO BASED ON THESE CRITERIA, UH, PART MUST REQUIRE LAND AND DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ACCEPT THE, AND SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO SLIDE NUMBER SEVEN.

UM, THE, ONCE WE COME TO THAT CONCLUSION OF THE LAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, WE ASK QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF LAND IS IT AND HOW IS IT ACCESSED BY THE PUBLIC AND THAT THERE YOU COME TO ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECES, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, THEN IT'S NOT REALLY A PARK.

IT'S NOT REALLY A MEANINGFUL PARK.

IT'S NOT ONE THAT CAN BE USED.

UM, AND THEN ON AND OFF STREET CONNECTIONS BE PROVIDED.

SO, UM, THAT, THERE'S A, UH, THERE'S A WAY FOR FOLKS TO REACH IT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THE INTERIOR OF THE PARK SHOULD BE VISIBLE.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR A GREEN BELT, NOT NECESSARILY, UH, BUT THE PARKLAND SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO THOSE HUMAN NEIGHBORHOOD EITHER BY WALKING OR PROVISION OF PARKING.

SO ONE OF THOSE TWO, SO IT SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC AND TO ACHIEVE THAT IT MUST BE CONNECTED TO THE RIGHT OF WAY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS IS, WE'RE GETTING REALLY CLOSE INTO THE SITE HERE.

WE CAN SEE THAT IT'S, IT'S FRONTING ALONG SOUTH CONGRESS, UM, AND THERE'S EXISTING PARKLAND THERE NOW.

UH, IT'S ON THE HIGH SIDE OF A BLUFF, WHICH MAKES IT VERY TRICKY TO ACCESS.

SO THE, THE, UH, PINK LINE IS ACTUALLY THE ENVISION TRAIL THAT WOULD GO ALONG THIS AND IT'S A RELATIVELY FLAT SPACE.

SO IT, IT PROVIDES A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR ACCESS.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, THIS IS THE PARK DEFICIENCY MAP THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT AND, UH, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE PARKLAND EXPANDING, UM, IN THE DIRECTION OF THE ORANGE.

IT WOULDN'T BE ALL OF THE ORANGE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PINK LINE HAS BEEN ENCOMPASSED BY THAT, UM, THAT SPACE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS A LITTLE BLURRY, EXCUSE THIS, BUT THIS IS FROM THE CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK GREEN GREENBELT PLAN.

AND, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE WHITE LINE HERE IS THE TRAIL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO IN THIS, THIS PLAN THAT THAT IS, HAS HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT HAS HAD A LOT OF, UM, UH, WORK DONE ON IT.

THE, THE TRAIL IS VERY MUCH A PART OF THIS PLAN.

UH, SECONDLY, IT IS ALSO AN URBAN TRAIL, UH, RECOMMENDED A TIER TWO URBAN TRAIL.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO GETTING INTO THIS IS NUMBER 12, YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE SITE PLAN, UM, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT YOU'VE GOT A, YOU'VE GOT THE GREEN, WHICH IS A, UM, WHICH IS THE, THE PARKLAND, UH, THAT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE SITE PLAN AND THE BLUE, WHICH IS, UH, THE PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WE ARE REQUIRING FOR THIS.

SO YOU REALLY NEED BOTH PIECES HERE.

YOU NEED THE PARKLAND, AND THEN YOU NEED A WAY TO GET TO IT.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, UH, IN, IN CONCLUSION, UH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU SUPPORT PARTS REQUEST FOR LAND DEDICATION, AND TO DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO PAY FEE IN LIEU OF LAND DEDICATION.

I'VE GOT ANOTHER COUPLE OF SLIDES, BUT I'M GOING TO SAVE THOSE IN CASE THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP.

SO, UM, WITH THAT, ACTUALLY I MIGHT FLASH BACK QUICKLY TO, UH, SLIDE NUMBER 12.

AND I MIGHT JUST SAY THAT, THAT WE MIGHT BE HEARING QUITE A LOT ABOUT THE ACCESS DRIVE, THAT WHAT YOU SEE IN BLUE AND, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE SITE ITSELF.

AND, UH, WE AT PART HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH OTHER REVIEWERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ACCESS CAN BE PROVIDED AND THAT IT WOULD, UH, IT CAN OVERLAP WITH OTHER CITY REQUIREMENTS.

OUR, OUR DESIRE IS NOT TO IMPACT THE BUILDING OR THE NUMBER OF UNITS OR THE PARKING ON THIS SITE.

SO WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

UM, AND, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAD EARLIER SAID THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN US DOING THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, I WILL CLOSE MY PRESENTATION AND OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

SURE.

SO LET'S SEE.

WE'VE GOT, UM, ON, UM, YEAH, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT, MR. MIKE MICONE, ARE YOU THERE? STAR SIX TO MEET? OKAY.

YOU MENTIONED MICHELLE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, I CAN.

SO YOU'VE GOT A FLEX MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, FIRST I WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE

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COMMISSION, THE STAFF AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OR THEY'RE A CONSIDERATION FOR ME PERSONALLY.

UH, THE MONTH OF MARCH WAS KIND OF A DIFFICULT MONTH FOR ME, AND I APPRECIATE THEIR NO CONSIDERATION.

AND WE'LL GO INTO THIS.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T AGREE WITH ANYTHING THAT, UH, MR. SCOTT HAS SAID, UH, AND A LOT OF WHAT HE HAS SAID FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP MY SLIDES, UH, FROM, I HAVE JUST, I'VE HAD CHEM STAFF BRING THOSE UP.

I'LL LET YOU DO IT WHEN I SEE IT.

OKAY.

AND IT'S A, UH, IT'S A VIEW FROM SAXONY LANE TO BEN WHITE BOULEVARD UP CONGRESS AVENUE.

OKAY.

STEPH, DO YOU GUYS, DO YOU HAVE THAT PRESENTATION? SURE.

COMMISSIONER WAITS ON, THEY WE'RE PULLING UP THE SLIDES JUST A MINUTE.

PLEASE.

WE HAVE IS ON HOLD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDREA.

WE HAVE IT.

UH, MR. MCCONNELL, WE'LL START WITH THE, UH, MAP.

OKAY.

THE, UH, OKAY.

MATH NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS THE VIEW FROM STASSNEY LANE, LOOKING NORTH AND WHITE BOULEVARD WITH OUR LOCATION MARKED IN THE RED THERE AND ORANGE 48 OH TWO IS ABOUT, UH, REMAINS TO BE ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF ACRES OF WHICH, UH, ONLY A LITTLE OVER ONE ACRE CAN BE REDEVELOPED BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN WITH CRITICAL WATER QUALITY.

SOME OF THEM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT RUNS BEHIND A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES THAT FACE ON CONGRESS AVENUE, WHICH ALSO PRESENTS SOME REAL CHALLENGES.

UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE ORANGE LINE, UH, FROM DOWN CONGRESS AVENUE.

THE ENTRY POINT TO THE ORANGE LINE WILL BE STATUS ME LANE AND ABOUT HALFWAY BETWEEN OUR SITE AND THEN, UH, THE, UH, DENBIGH BOULEVARD IN PRELIMINARY CLAIMS. SO WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE IN THE AREA SOMEWHAT CUT OFF.

ONE THING I WANT TO CLARIFY REAL QUICKLY IS THAT WE HAVE NO OBJECTION AND HAVE NEVER OBJECTED TO THE DEDICATION OF PARKLAND, AND WE WILL BE GIVING FOR THE PARKS AND SHARING THEIR VISION.

OUR PROBLEM IS WITH THE EXIT OF EASEMENT.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE GREENBELT, HOW IT RUNS AROUND THERE.

YOU CAN SEE, UH, UH, UH, WHERE WE ARE AND WE ARE.

AND, UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE SUPPORT.

UM, YOU SHOULD NOTE THAT, UH, THE STAFF SAYS IT'S A QUARTER MILE.

THE ACTUAL DISTANCE IS 0.17 MILES OR A LITTLE OVER 930 FEET FROM OUR DRIVEWAY TO THE POINT OF ENTRY.

ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE PROPERTY ON WRITTEN BETWEEN US THAT HAS NOT YET DEVELOPED.

AND HE HAS INDICATED IT IS NOT PER SE.

WHAT WE WOULD BE A DEVELOPMENT SITE.

USUALLY TONIGHT IS GOING TO FALL AROUND ONE PARTICULAR PROVISION IN THE CODE THAT WAS DECIDED A LONG TIME AGO.

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AND IT WAS 25, ONE 600, THREE 82 ON STREET.

AND THE HALL STREET CONNECTIONS BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS SHALL BE PROVIDED WHENEVER POSSIBLE TO PROVIDE REASONABLE ACCESS TO PARKS AND OPEN SPACE AREAS.

PARK HAS INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE WORKED WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

UM, WE UNDERSTAND FROM WORKING WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, THAT THE EASEMENT THEY ARE PROPOSING IS AND HAVE ASKED US TO PROVIDE IS A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT DOWN THE DRIVEWAY.

THIS IS THE SOLE ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY.

IT IS A TWO-WAY DRIVEWAY, AND IT, THEY WANT PEOPLE TO WALK DOWN THAT DRIVEWAY AND WE JUST FEEL THAT IS NOT REASONABLE.

I EXPECT ACCESS TO THE PARK.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR SIDE, NUMBER THREE, THAT I HAVE, WHICH IS A COPY OF THEIR SIZE THAT YOU JUST SAYING, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM GIVING UP THIS LAND.

WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH NOT ONLY THE ACCESS FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES SAYING, UH, YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE DOWN THE DRIVEWAY.

WE ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF OUR BUILDING, THIS, THIS IS THE AREA THAT'S NOT IN THE FLOOD APPLYING TO, OR THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.

AND WE HAVE THE REQUIRED ATTENTION FROM WATERSHED.

AND THERE'S NO WAY IF THERE WAS LAND AVAILABLE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT, BUT THERE'S JUST NO WAY TO GET AN ACCESS EASEMENT THROUGH THIS PROPERTY THAT IS SAFE AND REASONABLE SLIDE.

NUMBER FOUR IS A SORT OF A GENERAL CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY IS THAT SLIDE UP, WHICH SHOWS THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH 49, 49, 30 SOUTH CONGRESS OUTLINES OUR SAB, THAT AREA BETWEEN THESE TWO BUILDINGS, THESE TWO BUILDINGS, AND THESE TWO LOTS IS A 10 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED.

AND THE SUBDIVISION OF THIS PROPERTY BACK IN 1986, WHY IT WAS NOT REQUIRED TO PARKLAND THEN I DON'T KNOW, BUT, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS A SUBDIVISION, I GUESS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE WAS A DEVELOPER FROM HOUSTON INDICATES.

THAT'S WHAT IT WILL BE.

AND HE IS HIRED TO THE GRIN GROUP TO DEVELOP IT PROBABLY IN TWO YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW HE HAS SOME LEASE ISSUES GOING ON WITH CURRENT TENANTS.

SO WE SUGGEST AND HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT DEVELOPER OR POTENTIAL DEVELOPER REDEVELOPER, UH, THIS WHOLE PROPERTY HAS IT OR ANY EASEMENT ACROSS THE BACK OF IT.

AND WE HAVE A GRINDY CHEESEMAN DRAINING PROPERTY FROM THE NORTH ACROSS OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE MENSTRUAL FLOW DRAINAGE.

BUT THROUGH NEBRASKA IS PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT INTO A PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WILL BE 10 FEET WIDE.

AND THE NEXT FINAL SLIDE THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU IS WE HAVE, WE ARE SURVEYING THIS AREA AND NOW WE HAVE DONE A CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WOULD BE, AND IT WOULD COME DOWN THE, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES AND PROVIDE THE GREAT ACCESS AND NOT HAVE THE PROBLEM OF TWO-WAY WALKING DOWN THIS DRIVEWAY, UH, AND PROBABLY HAVING TO SWIM THROUGH A DETENTION POND TO GET TO THE PRODUCT LEVEL.

THANK YOU.

BEING HEALTHY GAMES OR ANY QUESTIONS AT TONS OF INFORMATION.

OUR NEXT PRESENTER WILL BE OUR ENGINEER, MICHAEL RIVERA.

WHO'S WORKED ON THIS PROJECT SINCE ITS INCEPTION.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU.

AND, UH, I GUESS MR. RIVERA, ARE YOU, ARE YOU THERE? YES.

UH, THIS IS MICHAEL RIVERA.

I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER AND, UH, NO RELATION TO ANDREW THAT I KNOW, BUT ANYWAY, SO, UH, YEAH.

UH, SO I HAVE BEEN WORK AS A BIKE SPOKE.

I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SITE SINCE 2019, UH, JUNE OF 2019.

WE STARTED DOING SOME WORK ON IT, CONTACTED PARKS PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION.

IN NOVEMBER, 2019, WE SUBMITTED THE SITE PLAN APP AND TRADED EMAILS AND, UH, SENT DRAWINGS AND STUFF STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE SITE PLAN AND, YOU KNOW, PARK FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND ACTUALLY SUBMITTED THIS, I PLAN FOR COMPLETING THIS CHECK IN DECEMBER LATE DECEMBER OF 2019, WENT THROUGH COMPLETENESS CHECK AND SITE PLAN WAS, UH, FORMALLY SUBMITTED FEBRUARY 20, 20 OVER A YEAR AGO.

AND, UH, WENT THROUGH AND FINALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED GETTING SOME COMMENTS AND I GUESS IT WAS MARCH AND THAT'S WHERE PARKS STARTED TALKING ABOUT PARKLAND AND, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS, AS MIKE POINTED OUT ON THAT DRIVEWAY, IS WE, THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN PUT OUR DRAINAGE

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OR POND OR DETENTION AND STORMWATER QUALITY POND IS AT THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT BY THE, THE ACCESS DRIVE.

AND, UH, THE GRADES ARE SUCH THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE THE WEIRD ENDED UP WITH A RETAINING WALL AT THE END OF THE DRIVE, THAT'S FIVE OR SIX FEET IN ELEVATION.

AND SO THERE'S GOING TO BE THERE'S.

UH, I THINK PARKS WAS TALKING ABOUT AN ADA ACCESS DOWN INTO THE PARK, AND IT'S LIKE THAT'S TO DO WITH SOME TYPE OF, UH, UH, RAMP OR, UH, AT THE END OF THAT DRIVE YOU'RE, IT'S GOING RIGHT INTO WHERE THE HALF CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE IS, WHICH IS WE'VE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE, UH, STAYED OUT OF THAT HALF CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE IS ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS.

SO MIKE POINT KIND OF TOUCHED ON SOME OF THE SITE ISSUES HERE, BUT WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE, THE FLOOD PLAIN, THAT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT TREES ON THE SITE, INCLUDING A NUMBER OF HERITAGE TREES, WHICH WE HAD TO AVOID, UH, THE LIMITED ACCESS ON THE, ON SOUTH CONGRESS.

AND SO THAT ONE ACRE ONE PLUS ACRE ONE MAYBE, UH, THAT WERE, UH, OUT OF THE 5.5 ACRES, FOUR ACRES OF IT IS CRITICAL WATER QUALITY, SO ON.

AND SO WE, AND, UH, WE'VE HAD TO TRY AND TIGHTEN EVERYTHING UP THERE ALONG CONGRESS AND INCLUDING THAT DRIVE, WHICH IS THE ONLY ACCESS TO THE SITE.

AND SO, UH, WE'VE GOT GREAT ISSUES AT THE END OF THIS SITE.

WE'VE GOT DRAINAGE WITH, WE NEED TO DRAIN THE SITE OUT THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER, ALONG WITH OFFSITE WATER COMING AT THE SITE TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE AND DRAINING THROUGH THE SITE.

UH, SO THERE'S A LOT OF SU UH, SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH.

SO TRYING TO GET IN AT PARK ACCESS AT THAT LOCATION, THERE ISN'T AN ACCESS NOW IT'S IT WAS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS CAR.

THERE WAS A CAR DEALERSHIP THERE.

AND IF THIS APPLICANT WASN'T DOING A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THEY WERE DOING OFFICE OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY COULD DO UNDER THE ZONING, THEY WOULD HAVE THIS ISSUE.

PARKLAND WOULDN'T EVEN BE AN ISSUE.

SO ANYWAY, UH, THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME, UH, CHAIR AND PLANNING PATIENT.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, WE HAVE A DARYL D GUEST.

AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK THREE MINUTES? OKAY.

YES.

UH, MY NAME IS DARYL GUEST.

I'M A LEGAL RESEARCH ASSISTANT FOR PALM WARREN, A