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33 AND IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE HAVE A QUORUM, LET'S GO

[CALL TO ORDER]

AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

UM, I KNOW WE DO HAVE A NEW MEMBER.

UH, SO MAYBE IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO GO AROUND AND START BY JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, SAYING WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT COMMISSION YOU'RE REPRESENTING.

UH, IF EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT.

AND IF YOU'RE ABLE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEOS, I THINK THAT WOULD, UH, BE NICE.

SO THE, UH, DIANA CAN, CAN SEE WHO WE ARE AND WE CAN SEE HER TO HOPEFULLY, UM, I'LL START.

MY NAME IS CABLE WHITE, AND I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION.

AND LET'S JUST PASS IT AROUND.

UM, I WILL START BY PASSING THAT TO ALBERTA.

HI, I'M ALBERTA PHILLIPS AND, UM, UH, I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND, UH, I AM A COMMUNITY MEMBER MEMBER FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, APPOINTED BY LESLIE.

COOL.

OH, I'LL PASS IT ON TO, I'M SORRY TO KAREN.

UH, KAREN HADDEN.

HI, UH, THIS IS KAREN HEADS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE ELECTRIC UTILITY COMMISSION AND HAPPY TO BE HERE AND I'LL PASS IT ALONG TO RUFF.

HI, I'M ROB SCHNEIDER.

I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I LIVE IN DISTRICT FIVE.

I FORGOT.

HOW ABOUT DAVID? THANKS.

UH, UM, I'M DAVID CARROLL, UH, AND THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE DESIGN COMMISSION, UH, WHERE I SERVE AS CHAIR AND REPRESENT DISTRICTS ONE ABOUT NAT.

HI, I'M NOT HOW I SERVE ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION.

I WAS APPOINTED BY THE FORMER PARAPRO, TIM STALEY GUYS HAVE DISTRICTS TO PRETTY SURE THIS IS MY LAST YEAR.

SO I'M ROLLING OFF, HAD BEEN A FUN TRIP.

YEAH.

AND THEN MELISSA.

HI EVERYONE.

I'M MELISSA RAFTA.

I REPRESENT DISTRICT TWO AND I SERVE ON ALSO THE ZERO WASTE ADVISORY COMMISSION.

I SEE DIANA WHEELER.

YES.

SO I, SO THIS IS, THIS IS EXCELLENT FOR ME BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS JOINING.

SO MY NAME IS DIANA WHEELER AND LESLIE POOLE ASKED ME TO JOIN THE UTC, URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.

AND IN MY FIRST UTC MEETING, THEY ASKED FOR LIAISON TO THE JOINT TO, TO THIS, TO THIS COMMISSION.

AND I THOUGHT I WAS JUST GOING TO BE A BYSTANDER, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE I'M LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ALL MEMBERS FROM OTHER GROUPS AND THIS IS WHERE WE ALL MEET TO SHARE INFORMATION.

IS THAT TRUE? THAT IS CORRECT.

BUT BEFORE WE GO ON, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE, WE MISSED PHYSIO AND THE INTRODUCTIONS I DECIDED IF I DO, I REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

THANK YOU QUEBEC.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

ALL.

SORRY, BUT THAT DIA DANCE.

NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.

UM, YES, SO I, I AM IN DISTRICT SEVEN, LESLIE POOLS DISTRICT, AND I'M ON THE UTC AND, AND I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE AND DO WHATEVER I CAN TO HELP WITH THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY.

AWESOME.

WELL WELCOME.

UH, AND YES, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

WE ARE, WE'RE ALL HERE ON THE, ON THE SAME, UH, FOOTING IN THAT WE'RE ALL, UH, WE'RE ALL, UM, SECONDARY, EXCEPT FOR ALBERTA.

SHE IS OUR ONE UNIQUE, UH, MEMBER IN THAT SHE, UH, IS NOT FROM ANOTHER BORDER COMMISSION.

SHE WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL, BUT, UM, THE REST OF US, THEY'RE ALL IN THAT WE HAVE KAREN TO INTRODUCE, OH, I'M SORRY, KAREN, PLEASE GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

IN AND OUT, I WAS HAVING AUDIO ISSUES.

KAREN MAGGOT HERE.

UM, ONE SECOND.

I CAN START I'M ON A NEW DEVICE.

I'M HAVING ALL SORTS OF PERMISSIONS ISSUES TRYING TO START MY VIDEO.

THERE WE GO.

KAREN, MEGAN.

UM, I REPRESENT THE AUSTIN TRAVIS COUNTY FOOD POLICY BOARD.

THANKS KAREN.

SORRY.

YEAH, I'D SEEN YOU.

AND THEN I WAS IN AND OUT FOR A MINUTE, BUT I'M HERE.

AWESOME.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON, UH, INTO OUR AGENDA.

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AND, UH, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION? ALL RIGHT.

LET'S

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

TAKE A LOOK AT THE MINUTES FROM OUR MARCH MEETING YOU TOO.

HOPEFULLY APPROVE THOSE.

OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS EDITS TO THE MEETING MINUTES FROM MARCH.

MOVE UP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, KAREN.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

THAT WHOLE SECOND.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NOW, IF THERE'S NOT ANY DISCUSSION, THEN GO AHEAD AND VOTE.

AND IF YOU HAVE YOUR VIDEO TURNED ON, YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND, OTHERWISE, UH, SAY YOUR NAME AND LET'S GO WITH THE EYES FIRST.

RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY YOUR NAME.

I THANK YOU FOR, SO, OKAY.

UH, ANY OPPOSED AND ANY ABSTAINING ALBERTA? HOW ARE YOU VOTING? MM HOW'S THAT ACTUALLY GOING TO BE THE ONES OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING ALBERTA IS MAYBE OUT IN A BOAT OR SOMETHING.

UM, I DON'T KNOW.

SO I STARTED HERE.

DID YOU ASK ME SOMETHING? OH, YES.

UM, JUST, UH, ON THE MINUTES I DIDN'T GET YOUR VOTE.

UH, WHETHER IT WAS, I GUESS I HAD THE VIDEO ON, BUT I RAISED MY HAND IN FAVOR, SO, OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

I MISSED THAT.

I THINK IT MUST'VE BEEN QUICK AND THEN I AM ASKEW.

UM, OKAY, GREAT.

SO, UH, HOWEVER MANY IT IS THAT WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 10 IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES.

THANK YOU ALL.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE

[2a) Chair and Vice Chair Elections (Discussion and/or possible action)]

ON TO OUR REAL BUSINESS HERE, STARTING WITH, UM, THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR ELECTIONS.

WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR, SO WE'LL, WE'LL DO THE, THE CHAIR FIRST.

AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT I, MAYBE I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO SOMEBODY, BUT KATIE'S NOT HERE.

AM I ALLOWED TO RANDOMLY TURN IT OVER TO SOMEBODY? YES, I REALLY, YOU ANSWERED VAN AND I'VE MAYBE, MAYBE I SHOULDN'T, YOU'RE NEW TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BUT, UH, UH, I GUESS YOU CALL IT, I CAN CALL FOR NOMINATIONS IN A VOTE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I LOST SOMEBODY ELSE.

I NOMINATE GAVE WHITE FOR CONTINUING TO CHERISH IT.

OKAY.

SO NAT, NAT, UH, NOMINATED.

AND WHO SECONDED? KAREN? I DIDN'T GET THERE FAST ENOUGH.

I THINK IT WAS ROB BOB.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS FOR THE, UH, THE CHAIR POSITION? NO.

WELL THEN I THINK WE CAN, UM, WE CAN CALL FOR A, A VOTE, UM, WHO SUPPORTS THE MOTION FOR KIBO TO BE THE CHAIR? RAISE YOUR HAND BECAUSE I ON THE PHONE AND SAY I TO SUPPORT OR I, OR SAY I, YES.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OPPOSED? OH, I THINK THAT MOTION CARRIES SO KAVA.

YOU'RE THE CHAIR, IF YOU WEREN'T ALREADY.

YOU'RE THE CHAIR NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL.

AND THANK YOU DIANA FOR STEPPING IN THERE.

UM, I GUESS I SHOULD LOOK UP WHAT, WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN THOSE SITUATIONS WHEN THE VICE-CHAIR IS NOT THERE.

SO LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, THE VICE CHAIR.

UH, CURRENTLY KATIE COIN IS SERVING IN THAT ROLE AND, UM, SHE IS UNABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF A CONFLICT, BUT, UH, SHE DID COMMUNICATE TO ME THAT SHE WOULD STILL BE INTERESTED IN CONTINUING ON IN THAT ROLE.

SO I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE HER, UH, TO CONTINUE ON AS VICE CHAIR.

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I'LL SECOND THAT, THANK YOU, KAREN.

WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION FOR VICE CHAIR? OKAY.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF, UH, KATIE COIN AS VICE CHAIR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY YOUR NAME, THE FILE.

I THANK YOU, ALBERTA.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE TURNING YOUR VIDEO ON, WE'RE NOT SEEING, OR I'M NOT SEEING ANY WAY ON THIS END.

OKAY.

WELL, THAT'S HOW I GUESS ALBERTA IS ABSTAINING OR OFF THE DIAS.

MAYBE IT'S MORE ACCURATE.

ALL RIGHT, COOL.

THANKS EVERYBODY.

OH, THERE YOU ARE BACK AGAIN.

UM, SORRY.

UH, ALBERTA.

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE MAYBE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, UM, WHERE YOU TRYING TO VOTE FOR, OR KATIE I'LL TRY.

UM, MY CONNECTION IS BAD, BUT I DIDN'T CARE WHAT YOU SAID.

SORRY.

DON'T, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

WE'RE JUST, WE'RE GOING TO COUNT YOU AS OFF THE DYES FOR THE LAST VOTE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR, OUR MINUTES.

UH, CORRECT.

UM, WAS THAT FOR THE CHAIR OR NO, THAT WAS FOR VICE CHAIR FOR KATIE CONTINUING ON AS VICE CHAIR.

YEAH.

WELL, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, THEN WE CAN COUNT YOU VOTING IN FAVOR.

YES, PLEASE, PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

GREAT.

UM, SO NEXT UP

[2b) Energy Code Update Process – Kurt Stogdill, Austin Energy (Discussion and/or possible action)]

WE HAVE ENERGY CODE UPDATE PROCESS.

WE HAVE KURT STARTED PILL, I BELIEVE, UH, LINED UP, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THAT PROCESS.

UH, IS HE, YES, HE IS HERE ALREADY IN OUR PANEL.

KURT, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR US? I DO.

WONDERFUL.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'LL JUMP IN THEN.

UH, GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

I'M KURT STOCKDALE.

I'M THE MANAGER FOR GREEN BUILDING AND SUSTAINABILITY FOR AUSTIN ENERGY.

UH, THINK I'M ALSO JOINED BY BETH CULVER.

SHE'S THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL OR THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND WORKS WITH, OR FOR DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

AND SHE'S ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO TALK TODAY ABOUT AN OVERVIEW OF THE INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE.

ALSO KNOWN AS THE IECC.

I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINES FOR WHAT THE LOCAL DEVELOPMENT AND ADOPTION PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.

I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOTABLE IN PARTICULAR WITH REGARDS TO THE 21 CODE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'LL BE CONSIDERING, AND THEN LIKE TO SPEAK TO SOME NEXT STEPS.

UH, I'VE ADAPTED THIS PRESENTATION FROM SOMETHING THAT WAS RECENTLY DELIVERED TO THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION.

UH, I'D LIKE TO SPEAK FIRST A LITTLE BIT JUST TO SCOPE.

UH, SO THE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMISSION IS THE COMMISSION THAT HAS IT EXPLICITLY OUTLINED IN THEIR CHARTER, THAT THEY ARE THE ONES THAT, UH, REVIEW, UH, AND RECOMMEND, UH, ACTIONS RELATED TO AMENDMENTS TO ENERGY CODE.

SO THEY'RE REALLY THE, THE COMMISSION THAT, THAT HAS DIRECT STATED PERFUMED WITHIN THEIR BYLAWS.

BUT WE ALSO LIKE TO REACH OUT TO OTHER BODIES THAT ARE RELEVANT TO THE ENERGY AND ENERGY CODE SPACE THAT MAY BE IMPACTED TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND REGISTER ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE AS TO WHAT THEY'VE HEARD AND SEEN SO THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT INTO OUR, INTO OUR PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.

SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BEYOND JUST EDIFICATION TO YOU GUYS AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE, THE, THE AGENDA IS FOR THIS EVENING, UH, RELATED TO, TO JSC FEEDBACK.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO ENERGY IS ONE OF A WHOLE BODY OF INTERNATIONAL CODES THAT ARE DEVELOPED BY THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL.

UH, THEY ADOPT THESE AS A SUITE.

UH, IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE FIRE, MECHANICAL PLUMBING, RESIDENTIAL, THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF CODES THERE.

UH, THE INTERNATIONAL COUNCIL IS THE BODY THAT HAS PURVIEW AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR ADOPTION OF THESE CODES.

IT'S A, UH, A PUBLIC PROCESS WHERE THEY

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HAVE A SERIES OF HEARINGS, UH, FOR THE RESPECT OF CODES TO GET INPUT AS TO WHERE THE, THE, THAT COMMUNITY WANTS TO GO WITH THOSE CODES.

UH, THEY ADOPT THEM ON THREE-YEAR CYCLES.

UH, THAT SAID A JURISDICTION DOESN'T NEED TO ADOPT NEW CODES AS THEY, AS THEY COME FORWARD AND DOESN'T NEED TO ADOPT THE NEWEST CODE.

UH, WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT ADOPTION, UH, AUSTIN IS CURRENTLY UNDER THE 2015 IECC, UH, WE LOOKED AT THE 2018 ICC ICC AND DUE TO A NUMBER OF FACTORS, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT THE 18 CODE DIDN'T HAVE ANY DRAMATIC IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE 15 CODE.

PAT, THE 15 CODE HAD A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WITH STAKEHOLDERS IN THE ADOPTION OF SOME SECTIONS OF IT.

SO IT WAS ADOPTED A LITTLE LATER THAN WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE A MOVE STRAIGHT TO THE NEXT CODE CYCLE, UH, AS WELL AS, AS DISTRACTION AROUND CODE NEXT, WE OPTED WE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OPTED NOT TO, UH, ADOPT THE 2018 IECC.

UH, SO WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER THE 2015 CODE, WHICH IS THE SAME CODE THAT IS, UH, MANDATED THROUGH THE STATE AS THE OFFICIAL CODE FOR FREE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AS FAR AS THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE CODE.

IT TALKS ABOUT REGULATING DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION FOR EFFECTIVE USE AND CONSERVATION OF ENERGY, AND ALSO TO PERMIT THE USE OF INNOVATIVE APPROACHES.

NOW THEY'VE BACKED OFF A LITTLE BIT THAT THE ICC HAS BACKED OFF A LITTLE BIT, UH, ON THE FIRST HALF OF THAT BEING THE EFFECT OF USE, LOOKING AT ENERGY AND DIFFERENT ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES AND ARE LOOKING MORE THEY'VE STATED ON THE CONSERVATION SIDE, WHICH, WHICH SPEAKS TO A SUBTLE, SUBTLE SHIFTING IN THEIR PRIORITIES.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IMPACTS IN A MINUTE.

UH, ENERGY CODE IS DIVIDED INTO TWO SEGMENTS.

YOU'VE GOT COMMERCIAL AND YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL, UH, DIVIDING LINE FOR THAT FOR ENERGY CODE IS FOUR STORIES.

SO FOUR STORIES AND ABOVE IS COMMERCIAL, UH, BY BUS, UM, MAIN SECTIONS IN INVOLVED IN THE CODE INCLUDE INSULATION, UH, THE ENVELOPE, AND THERE'LL BE AN ENVELOPE.

SO THAT'S THE EXTERIOR, UH, INCLUDES THINGS LIKE WINDOWS, REFLECTIVE SURFACES, SHADING, THAT SORT OF THING.

UH, THEN YOU'VE GOT MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, UH, HVC SYSTEMS OR THE VICKY THERE, BUT OTHER ELECTROMECHANICAL SYSTEMS, UH, FALL UNDER THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT LIGHTING.

UH, THERE ARE THREE BASIC WAYS MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF ENERGY CODE.

THERE'S THE PRESCRIPTIVE ROUTE WHERE BASICALLY YOU'VE GOT A CHECKLIST THAT SAYS, YOU MUST DO A, B, C, D WHATEVER.

AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A CHOICE OF, YOU KNOW, F AND G R F OR G, AND, YOU KNOW, H OR I, AND IF YOU MEET ALL THE REQUISITE CHECK BOXES ON THE PRESCRIPTIVE APPROACH, YOU'RE CONSIDERED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CODE.

THEN YOU'VE GOT A PERFORMANCE-BASED APPROACH WHERE YOU'VE GOT A MODELING PACKAGE AND ALGORITHM WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT SUITES OF OPTIONS OF TECHNOLOGIES AROUND CHOICES YOU CAN MAKE TO MEET THE OVERALL EFFICIENCY OF A BUILDING.

AND AS LONG AS YOU MEET THE REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE MODEL FOR THAT SORT OF, THAT SORT OF, UH, FOR BEING COMPLIANT WITH THE, WITH THE TECH OR WITH THE, UH, WITH THE MODEL AND YOU'RE CONSIDERED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT EITHER COMCHECK OR REZ CHECK, WHICH ARE KIND OF A COMBINATION OF PRESCRIPTIVE AND PERFORMANCE-BASED, SO YOU'VE GOT SOME DIFFERENT PATHS TO MAKE IT THERE.

UH, IT ALLOWS MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR, UH, THE DIFFERENT COMPLEXITIES OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE DOING THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, UH, AS WELL AS OFFERING THEM SOME OPTIONS SO THAT THEY'RE NOT LIMITED TO JUST ONE APPROACH TO GET THERE.

IN ADDITION, MUNICIPALITIES ARE ABLE TO PASS LOCAL AMENDMENTS TO ENERGY CODE, TO MEET RELEVANT LOCAL GOALS AND PRIORITIES.

AND I'VE SPOKEN TO TWO RELEVANT HERE IN THAT GENERALLY THEY'RE THEY'RE IDEAS OR CONCEPTS THAT NEED TO BE TIED INTO ENERGY CODE ITSELF AND RELEVANT.

UH, WE WOULD LOOK, YOU KNOW, IF THINGS ARE PREDOMINANTLY PLUMBING, WE WOULD LOOK TO ADDRESS THOSE IN FRONT OF YOU, AS OPPOSED TO WITHIN THE ENERGY CODE IT'S PLEASE.

SO FOR THE PROCESS FOR COATED OPTION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, DEPARTMENT, OR DSD IS THE ENTITY WITHIN THE CITY.

THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR

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THE ADOPTION AND THE ENFORCEMENT OF BUILDING CODES FOR THE CITY.

UH, AUSTIN ENERGY'S ROLE IS MORE OF A FACILITATOR ROLE.

UH, SINCE THE 2000 CODE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, AUSTIN ENERGY HAS SERVED AS A FACILITATOR FOR STAKEHOLDER REVIEW AND DEVELOPMENT OF LOCAL AMENDMENTS.

AUSTIN ENERGY HAS STAFF THAT'S DEDICATED TO WORKING ON, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF ENERGY CODE.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME, SOME MODELING CAPABILITIES THAT ALLOW US TO LOOK AT THE REPERCUSSIONS OF DIFFERENT CHOICES THAT WE MAY CHOOSE TO MAKE, AND A LOT OF EXPERTISE ON THAT.

SO WE'VE OFFERED UP OUR SUPPORT TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE ON THE ENERGY CODE AND WORK WITH THEM CLOSELY HAND IN HAND, AND IN DEVELOPMENT OF THIS, THIS PROCESS, NEXT SLIDE, WE ALSO HAVE A STAKEHOLDER REVIEW AND INPUT PROCESS FOR THIS, UH, MUCH LIKE THE CODE IS SPLIT BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

WE HAVE SEPARATE BODIES THAT WORK ON BOTH THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL CODE SEGMENTS.

THERE'S A DIFFERENT EXPERTISE THERE.

SO SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE.

SO WE LOOK FOR THAT, UH, THIS YEAR STAKEHOLDER REVIEW AND INPUT WAS HANDLED THROUGH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, PUBLIC INPUT PER PORTAL.

SO IT'S, UH, AN ONLINE APPROACH.

IT ALLOWS YOU TO DOCUMENT YOUR CONCERNS AND, AND MAKES THOSE TRANSPARENT AND VIEWABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

UH, THAT PROCESS WAS OPEN FOR MARCH 15TH THROUGH APRIL 15TH.

UH, ALTHOUGH THE PUBLIC INPUT PORTION THROUGH THE PORTAL DIRECTLY IS CLOSED RIGHT NOW, WE CONTINUE TO TAKE STAKEHOLDER INPUT WITH REGARDS TO THOSE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN REGISTERED.

AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH STAKEHOLDERS ON THOSE SO WELL, WHILE THE PORTAL IS CLOSED, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE DIALOGUE WITH STAKEHOLDERS ABOUT THE THINKING AROUND DECISIONS WE'RE MAKING AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THEM.

SO THERE'S SOME CONSTANT FEEDBACK LOOPS GOING ON THERE.

UH, WE'VE INCLUDED WITHIN THAT, THAT LIST OF STAKEHOLDERS, UH, HOME BUILDERS, THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, ARCHITECTS, THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS, NONPROFITS, AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND MEMBERS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY.

UH, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK, UH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN EXPANSIVE ENOUGH IN ADVERTISING.

THAT NET IS FAIR.

UH, WE'VE ALSO AGREED MOVING FORWARD.

WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, NOTIFY THE RELEVANT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, INCLUDING THIS BODY.

DO YOU SEE IN THE RMC OF THIS PROCESS AS IT'S INITIATED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER INCLUSIVITY ON THAT? UH, SO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THIS PROCESS IS AVAILABLE AND OPEN TO ANYBODY.

SO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN IT CAN SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SCHEDULE, THIS IS A VERY COMPRESSED SCHEDULE, AND I'LL SPEAK TO THE RATIONALE IN A MINUTE.

THIS WAS VERY MUCH A, AN OUTCOME OF CIRCUMSTANCE, NOT A DEVICE OR DESIGN.

UH, WE INITIALLY ENGAGED WITH, UH, DSD BACK IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR ON PUTTING TOGETHER A SCHEDULE FOR DEVELOPING POSTS FOR THE CITY, LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE BODY OF CODES.

AND THE IECC IN OCTOBER WAS STILL UP IN THE AIR.

IT HADN'T BEEN FINALIZED AND THERE WERE SOME CONTENTIOUS ISSUES BEING WORKED OUT.

SO WE WEREN'T IN A PLACE IN OCTOBER THAT WE CAN ENGAGE AT THAT TIME IN, IN THE, THE PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF, OF HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CODE.

UH, WE AGREED WITH, WITH DSD THAT WE SHOULD DEFER THROUGH THE HOLIDAYS BECAUSE NOT A GREAT TIME FOR PUBLIC INPUT AND MET AGAIN WITH THEM IN JANUARY IN JANUARY, UH, DSD HAD TOLD US THAT THEY WERE AFFIRMING THEIR CONDUCT CONVICTION, THAT THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TRY AND MOVE THE ENTIRE BODY OF CODES FOR IMPLEMENTATION, UH, SEPTEMBER 1ST, WHICH IS THEIR TRADITIONAL STARTING DATE FOR CODES.

UH, AT THAT TIME WE WERE TOO LATE FOR JANUARY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, FEBRUARY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS FOR THE EDC AND THE RMC.

THEY HAD A JOINT MEETING THAT HAD A SET AGENDA.

SO WE GOT PUSHED OUT OF THAT MEETING.

AND THEN WE HAD THE WINTER STORM IN MARCH, WHICH PUSHED US OFF TO THAT, WHICH LEFT US WITH AN APRIL, UH, SCHEDULE THERE.

SO SUBOPTIMAL AND NOT THE DEGREE OF TIMELINE WE WOULD NORMALLY LIKE.

UH, BUT IT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

UH, SO ON THE 20TH, WE GAVE THIS, THIS INTRODUCTION, UH, PRESENTATION TO THE RMC, UH, TALKING TO YOU ALL THIS EVENING ON MAY 6TH, WE'LL GO TO COUNCIL WITH A SET HEARING ANNOUNCEMENT, BASICALLY THAT'S NOTIFICATION TO THE COMMUNITY THAT IN THE JUNE MEETING, WE PLANNED TO HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION ABOUT ADOPTION OF THE CODE.

SO THIS IS NOTIFICATION TO THE COMMUNITY THAT IT'S COMING.

AND IF YOU WANT TO REPRESENT YOUR INTEREST THERE, BE THERE ON COUNCIL.

UH, WE'LL, WE'LL DO

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A SIMILAR REVIEW THAT WE'RE DOING HERE, UH, WITH THE AUC AT THEIR MAY MEETING.

UH, WE'LL COME BACK TO THE RMC IN MAY.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO GO MORE IN DEPTH.

WE'LL HAVE HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK.

AND WE'LL ALSO LOOK TO A DSD FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, SUPPORT MOVING THIS FORWARD.

WE'LL ALSO DO REVIEWS WITH THE MECHANICAL AND PLUMBING BOARD, AS WELL AS THE BUILDING AND FIRE CODE BOARD OF APPEALS.

UH, THEY'RE INVOLVED IN, IN CODE ENFORCEMENT AND CODE DISCUSSIONS, AND SOMETIMES SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN ENERGY, UH, FLOW OVER AND IMPACT THEM.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE INFORMED AND THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT.

AND THEN WE'LL LOOK TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, UH, ON THE, UH, JUNE 3RD MEETING OR A MEETING, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL BE THE ONE TAKING THAT FORWARD.

THE REASON THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY AND GET THIS DONE IN, IN JUNE IS THAT DSD, AS A MATTER OF BEST PRACTICE TRIES TO HAVE 90 DAYS OR APPROXIMATELY 90 DAYS OF NOTIFICATION TO THE COMMUNITY FROM THE TIME THE CODE IS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.

SO AT THE TIME IT'S IMPLEMENTED, SO THAT WOULD PUT US AT A SEPTEMBER 1ST IMPLEMENTATION.

UH, THE REASON THAT WE'RE GOING FORTH IN MAY IS THIS YEAR COUNCIL IS, UH, MEETING EARLIER OR BREAKING EARLIER, UH, FOR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS IN JULY.

IF WE LOST A LITTLE BIT OF BANDWIDTH AND TIME AT THE TAIL END OF THAT, THERE ARE REALLY THREE TO THREE ISSUES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY AND ADDRESS WITH GOING FORWARD ON THE NINE ONE DATE.

UH, THE FIRST IS THAT, UH, DSD HAS TRADITIONALLY GONE OR IMPLEMENTATION ON THE 1ST OF SEPTEMBER.

SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS TO LOOK FOR THESE, THESE CODES TO BECOME ACTIVE ON THAT DATE.

UH, IN ADDITION, WE'RE LOOKING TO TAKE THE ENTIRE BOOK BODY OF COATS TOGETHER IN JUNE, EITHER IN ONE OR TWO, BECOME EFFECTIVE ON THE SAME DATE.

UH, IT CAN BE HARD FROM, FROM A, A, BOTH FROM A COMPLIANCE PERSPECTIVE AND AN ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE.

IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE EFFECTIVE, EFFECTIVE DATES FOR YOUR VARIOUS CODES, IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH FOR A DSD PERSPECTIVE.

YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOUR BUILDING WAS PERMITTED IN BETWEEN THOSE DATES, WHICH, WHICH IS THE APPLE APPLICABLE, APPLICABLE CODE, AND THEN IT'S ALSO HARDER FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KEEP THAT STRAIGHT.

AND THEN THE THIRD ITEM IS THAT THE CITY WORKS WITH A GROUP CALLED THE INSURANCE SERVICES OFFICE, AND IT'S A PROVIDER OF STATISTICAL ACTUARIAL UNDERWRITING AND CLAIMS WITH A FOCUS ON, ON PROPERTY AND CASUALTY INSURANCE.

SO BASICALLY THEY PROVIDE DATA TO THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT THIS GROUP COMES OUT WITH IS SOMETHING CALLED A BUILDING CODE EFFECTIVENESS GRADING SCHEDULE.

AND WHAT THAT LOOKS AT IS ASSESSING THE BUILDING CODES IN EFFECT IN THE COMMUNITY AND HOW THE COMMUNITY ENFORCES THEM WITH SPECIAL EMPHASIS ON MITIGATION OF, OF LOSSES FROM NASH NASH OR NATURAL DISASTERS.

AND AS PART OF THEIR AUDIT PROCESS, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THEY HAVE IS THAT THE BODY OF CODES THAT ARE IN PLACE IN A, IN A JURISDICTION HAVE BEEN ADOPTED WITHIN THE, OR THE, THE, THE CODE ADOPTED IS WITHIN FIVE YEARS OF CURRENT OF THE, THE CURRENT AUDIT TO TWO UNDER BEING UNDERTAKEN.

AND DST IS NOT SURE WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET AUDITED AGAIN, BUT IT COULD VERY WELL HAPPEN AT THE END OF THIS YEAR, OR CERTAINLY NEXT YEAR, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN PLACE, WE'LL BE OUTSIDE OF THAT WINDOW BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDER THE 2015 CODE, WHICH PUTS US MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OUT.

SO, AND THE POTENTIAL IMPLICATIONS ARE THAT IF THROUGH THE VARIOUS FACTORS THAT ARE LOOKED AT THROUGH THIS, THROUGH THIS GRADING SCHEDULE, WE DROP A LITTLE BIT IN, IN THE RATINGS.

WE HAVE, IT COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT INSURANCE RATES THAT ARE PAID IN THE CITY.

SO IT'S DEFINITELY THE COMMUNITY'S BEST INTEREST TO TRY AND KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO, SO THAT'S REALLY THE, THE THREE IDEAS BEHIND THE SCHEDULE THERE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 21 IECC.

SO THE 21 IECC IS A, IS A MARKET INCREASE FROM AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY PERSPECTIVE, OR WERE THE, BOTH THE 2015, WHICH WERE UNDER NDA 18 CODES.

SO THERE'S ESTIMATES OF AN EIGHT TO 10% INCREASE IN ENERGY EFFICIENCY OVER EXISTING CODE ACROSS THE ENTIRE BODY OF BUILDING TYPES.

NOW THAT WILL

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VARY QUITE A BIT.

WE'RE JUST BEGINNING TO DO SOME, SOME ANALYSIS INTO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE A STRETCH CODE.

IT IT'S ASKING YOUR DESIGN COMMUNITY IN YOUR CONSTRUCTION COMMUNITY TO DO A LOT MORE THAN THEY HAVE IN THE PAST.

AND WE ANTICIPATE A LITTLE BIT OF SHOCK THERE, UH, IN JUST GETTING THEM UP TO SPEED AND GETTING THEM TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE WHAT'S EXPECTED OF THEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS, WE LOOK AT THIS AS A STRETCH CODE, UH, FOR THE 21 ADOPTION PROCESS.

INITIALLY, WHEN DISCUSSIONS HAD BEEN ENGAGED UPON ON IN THE HEARINGS, THE ICC BODY WAS LOOKING AT ELECTRIC VEHICLE READY AND ELECTRIFICATION AS PASS FORWARD THAT THEY WANTED TO PURSUE WITHIN THE BODY OF THE CODE.

AND ELECTRIFICATION IS THE IDEA OF, UH, HAVING ELECTRIC OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR NATURAL GAS, FUEL SOURCES FOR PROVIDING SERVICES, UH, AS THEY GOT INTO THE VOTING PART OF THIS PROCESS, VERY LATE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, THERE WAS A HARD LOBBYING EFFORT ON BEHALF OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES WITH VESTED INTERESTS AGAINST EBV READY AND ELECTRIFICATION.

UH, THE JUSTIFICATIONS THEY PROVIDED WERE AROUND COST AND ALSO RELEVANCE.

AND THEY SPOKE TO THE IDEA THAT THE ICC HAD BROUGHT UP, THAT THEY REALLY WANTED TO LOOK MORE AT THE ENERGY CONSERVATION SIDE, AS OPPOSED TO THE ENERGY TECHNOLOGY SIDE.

AND THE ICC CAME OUT AND SAID, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE ELECTRIC VEHICLE READY GOES, BUT WE DON'T THINK IT BELONGS HERE.

SO WE'RE NOT WILLING TO PUT IT HERE.

SO ELECTRIC VEHICLE READY AND ELECTRIFICATION WERE STRUCK DURING THE APPEALS PROCESS FROM 21 ICC ICC, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

AND FROM AN ADOPTION PERSPECTIVE, IF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WORD FROM A, FROM A BODY AND YOU'VE GOT SOME PRECEDENTS FOR PUTTING THINGS THERE, YOU'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD COMFORT LEVEL WITH LOOKING AT THINGS, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT THE, THE CODE BODY ITSELF TELLING YOU, THEY'RE NOT SURE IT BELONGS THERE, THERE'S SOME RELUCTANCE FOR, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FACTORS WE'RE LOOKING AT MOVING FORWARD.

ALSO LOCALLY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT ACTIVITY IN THE LEGISLATURE AROUND, UH, ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND BUILDING CONSTRUCTION AND BUILDING CODES, AND OVERWHELMINGLY THE MESSAGE THAT'S BEEN SENT SO FAR IS THAT JURISDICTIONS ARE NOT TO LIMIT CHOICE, BUT TO ALLOW MORE CHOICE.

AND, AND SO, SO THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME, SOME HEIGHTENED EXPOSURE AND SENSITIVITY TO DOING THINGS FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

UH, SO AS WELL IN, IN THE AREA AROUND NOT LIMITING CUSTOMER CHOICE AROUND, UH, PARTICULARLY FUEL CHOICE, BUT, BUT UTILITY TYPE.

UH, SO TO THAT END, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW LOCAL AMENDMENTS, UH, TO THE, TO THE, TO THE CURRENT CODE, BUT WE WILL LOOK TO CARRY OVER SOME RELEVANT AMENDMENTS FROM THE 15 CODE.

UH, MOST NOTABLY IS SOLAR READY.

WE ABSOLUTELY PLAN TO CARRY SOLAR ALREADY FORWARD FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, UH, SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY WON'T BE A NEW AMENDMENT.

IT'LL PROBABLY LOOK TO STRIKE AN OLD ONE.

UH, THERE'S A CURRENT, UH, AMENDMENT THAT SPEAKS TO ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION SITE THAT HAS NATURAL GAS, UH, CONNECTIONS AVAILABLE, UH, ADJACENT TO THE SITE REQUIRES THAT THEY USE NATURAL GAS FOR WATER HEATING FOR, FOR RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.

AND WE WILL LOOK TO REVISIT AND STRIKE THAT SO THAT THAT'S NO LONGER A REQUIREMENT THAT, UH, IS, IS, IS VERY, UH, UTILITY CENTRIC IN, IN FAVOR OF ONE PARTY.

SO WE'LL LOOK TO STRIKE THAT.

UM, WE WILL LOOK TO PROGRESS, EVIE, READY AND ELECTRIFICATION THROUGH OTHER MEANS.

UH, THEN THE ICC, UH, YOU KNOW, BACK TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE STAKEHOLDER INPUTS.

UH, WE HAD SOME TALK ABOUT A HEAT PUMP.

WATER HEATERS IS, UH, IS A PREFERRED PATH FORWARD, BUT OVERWHELMINGLY, UH, ON A BROADER SCALE, THE TWO THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WERE EVIE READY AND ELECTRIFICATION.

UH, WE DON'T FEEL GIVEN OUR CURRENT COMPRESSED TIMELINE THAT IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST TO TRY AND PUSH THESE FORWARD, UH, FOR ADOPTION AT THE TIME WE'RE DOING THIS, THIS BODY OF CODES, BUT WE'RE FULLY COMMITTED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT PROGRESS FOR EVIE READY

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AND ELECTRIFICATION, UH, THROUGH WHATEVER MEANS WE CAN, UH, MOVING FORWARD.

AND WE'LL LOOK TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, A COMMUNITY-WIDE DISCUSSION ON THESE ISSUES MOVING FORWARD.

AND THAT'LL BE PART OF THE NEXT STEPS AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE STEPS THAT WE'LL NEED TO TALK ABOUT, UH, WE, AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING WE'LL NEED TO MODEL THE LOCAL IMPACT SO WE CAN GET A BETTER QUANTIFICATION OF WHAT WE THINK THE IMPACT WILL BE LOCALLY, UH, AS PART OF THE CODE ADOPTION PROCESS, WE'VE TRADITIONALLY PUT TOGETHER AN AFFORDABILITY IMPACT STATEMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL.

WE'VE DONE IT FOR, UH, A, A MODEL, LOW INCOME PROPERTY.

UH, WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK AT ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT ARE IMPOSED BY THE CODE, AND THEY INVARIABLY ALWAYS HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTUME.

UH, BUT WE ALSO THEN LOOK AT THE BENEFITS AND IF YOU'VE GOT A NEW CODE, THAT'S LOOKING AT AN EIGHT TO 10% INCREASE IN, IN BUILDING AN EFFICIENCY, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A PRETTY FAIR, FAIR PAYBACK.

SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE A FAVORABLE STORY TO TELL WHAT THAT WE WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING ON, ON, UH, PREPARING THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE IMPACT PARTICULARLY TO OUR, TO OUR LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES.

SO WE, WE, WE INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE PACKAGE MOVING FORWARD OR WITH LEGAL CIVVY LEGAL ON REVIEW.

UH, AGAIN, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE RMC, LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION, UH, GREEN BUILDING WILL HAVE TO UPDATE ITS RATINGS TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW CODE.

UH, WE REALLY LOOK AT GREEN BUILDING AS AN AVENUE FOR INTRODUCING NEW CONCEPTS TO THE MARKET THAT CAN THEN BE CODIFIED.

UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING, UH, WELL, WE'LL NEED TO RESET, UH, TO FIT BETTER WITH THE NEW CODE.

SO WE'LL UPDATE OUR RATINGS.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO NEED TO UPDATE OUR CODE SAVINGS.

UH, OUR METHODOLOGY IN PARTICULAR, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT ON SOME BENCHMARKING OF OUR PROGRAMS AND FEEDBACK FROM THEM WAS THAT WE, WE SHOULD LOOK TO BENCHMARK OUR PROGRESS AGAINST THE CURRENT STATE CODE.

UH, WE RECENTLY MOVED TO, TO BENCHMARK AND AGAINST THE 2008, EIGHT CODE FOR CONSISTENCY, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE OVERSTATING OUR SAVINGS.

UH, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE TALK OPENLY ABOUT THAT AND WE'RE CONSISTENT WITH THE METHODOLOGY, BUT WE WANT TO CHANGE OUR METHODOLOGY MOVING FORWARD TO BEING MORE CONSISTENT WITH, WITH BEST PRACTICES, WITH THAT AS WELL, WE'LL NEED TO CHANGE, UH, CHANGE OUR GOALS.

SO WE'LL NEED TO REVISIT WHAT THE GREEN BUILDING GOAL IS.

LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT THAT NEW METHODOLOGY IS.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T PUT IN HERE IS THAT AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR THIS, UH, CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT WITH THE STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITY ABOUT ELECTRIFICATION AND EVIE READY, MOVING FORWARD, AND WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE.

EXCELLENT.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, KURT.

UM, I HAVE, UH, JUST ONE THING BEFORE WE MOVE INTO QUESTIONS, CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY, UM, YOU WERE USING THE TERM ELECTRIFICATION, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY UNDER CONSIDERATION WAS SOMETHING CALLED ELECTRIC READINESS.

IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL? I DON'T REMEMBER THE SPECIFIC, UH, UH, LABEL THAT THEY PUT ON IT, BUT IT WAS MUCH THE IDEA OF PUTTING, GOING THE EXTRA STEP IN NEW CONSTRUCTION TO ALLOW FOR A CONVERSION FROM A NATURAL GAS APPLIANCE TO A, AN ELECTRIC OPTION.

SO FOR SAY, HEAT PUMP WATER HEATER FOR A WATER HEATER FOR A GAS WATER HEATER, UH, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE SAME ELECTRICAL ENVIRONMENTS THAT YOU WOULD AT THE, AT THE POINT OF THE ELECTRIC, THE HEATER ITSELF.

SO YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO ADD A HIGHER ELECTRIC SERVICE TO THAT, UH, SPACE.

AND IN ADDITION SINCE HEAT PUMP WATER HEATERS, UH, ARE SO EFFICIENT, BUT NOT, NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO EFFICIENT, BUT TO BE SO EFFICIENT, THEY NEED TO HAVE A LARGER FOOTPRINT.

SO YOU NEED MORE SPACE TO ALLOW, UH, OR FUTURE INSTALLATION OF A HEAT PUMP, WATER HEATER THAN YOU WOULD NORMALLY ACCOMMODATE UNDER A GAS SYSTEM.

SO YOU'D HAVE TO GIVE YOURSELF MORE SPACE.

SO THAT'S THE SORT OF THINGS THAT THEY'D BE LOOKING AT.

YEAH.

THANKS FOR THAT.

UM, JEFF, I, I DON'T KNOW.

I, I KNOW IT PROBABLY JUST SEEMS LIKE SEMANTICS, BUT, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO USE ELECTRIC READINESS AS KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO ELECTRIFICATION BECAUSE ELECTRIFICATION KIND OF IMPLIES THAT YOU'RE REQUIRING ELECTRIFICATION.

UM, AND LIKE YOU SAID, THIS WOULD JUST BE ENABLING.

UM, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT AS WE MOVE INTO THE, THE CONVERSATION

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THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING, UH, MANDATORY, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, ELECTRIC, UM, KIND OF CA CAPACITY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH, GO AHEAD, DAVID.

UH, HI KERR, I'VE GOT, UH, TWO, ONE'S MORE OF A COMMENT, UM, AND IT APPLIES TO SOMETHING YOU SAID, AND REALLY IT MAY BE DIRECTED TOWARDS BETH SINCE SHE'S HERE TOO.

I UNDERSTAND THE, UM, RATIONALE FOR REDUCING LOCAL AMENDMENTS, UM, AND ACROSS ALL CODES.

AND I WAS ACTUALLY VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

UM, AND, AND INVOLVED IN SOME OF THOSE PROCESSES.

UM, HOWEVER, MOVING FORWARD, UM, IN THE FUTURE, I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO BE, UM, ESPECIALLY SUSPECT OF THE ICC CODES.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS MAYBE BETH IS AWARE THAT RECENTLY THE ICC BOARD OF DIRECTORS VOTED TO ELIMINATE VOTING BY ITS MEMBERS AND CREATED A SPECIAL COMMITTEE, ESSENTIALLY MADE UP A SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS THAT ARE GOING TO DECIDE, UH, THESE CODES MOVING FORWARD.

AND, AND IT REALLY BEGINS TO ELIMINATE A LOT OF THE SORT OF PUBLIC INPUT IN THAT PROCESS OF THE MODEL MAKING THE MODEL CODE.

UM, AND SO I GUESS MY POINT IS TO THAT, I THINK IN THE FUTURE AND, AND FUTURE VERSIONS OF ALL THE CODES, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO REALLY ANALYZE THOSE FURTHER.

AND IT MAY MEAN HAVING TO GO BACK TO MORE LOCAL AMENDMENTS, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE THINGS WE WANT TO ACHIEVE HERE LOCALLY.

IF, IF WE START TO SEE A RESISTANCE WITH THE ICC TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CERTAIN THINGS.

UM, SO THAT'S JUST SORT OF A GENERAL COMMENT.

IT'S VERY CONCERNING TO ME THAT THEY MADE THAT MOVE.

UM, AND, AND SO I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO BE WATCHING THAT MOVING FORWARD, AS FAR AS SPECIFICALLY THE, THE 2021 IVCC I KNOW YOU ARE VERY INVOLVED WITH THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN.

I WONDER IF THERE'S BEEN ANY DISCUSSION, UM, ONCE THAT IS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL, HOW THE CODES ARE GOING TO BE ADJUSTED TO INCORPORATE ANY NECESSARY CODE CHANGES GIVEN THAT IT WON'T BE DURING THIS CODE CYCLE.

AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT THREE TO SIX YEARS FOR THE NEXT CODE CYCLE TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

WELL, YOU WANT TO CHIME IN FIRST ON ANY OF THIS, OR YOU WANT ME TO JUMP IN, OH, MY TAKE ON THE, UM, I GET THE NAME WRONG, THE ENERGY EQUITY PLAN, SORRY.

UH, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN, SOME OF THESE CHANGES THAT'S KURT MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, WE FEEL, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DECIDE WHERE BELONGS, RIGHT.

DOES IT BELONG WITH THE TECHNICAL CODES OR DOES IT BELONG IN ITS OWN SECTION? SO WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND FIGURING OUT WHERE DOES THIS ALL BELONG? AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS, WHICH I THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THAT IS ON OUR STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT PAGE IS TO CONSOLIDATE THINGS INTO ONE LOCATION INSTEAD OF HAVING IT ALL, JUST SPREAD OUT AND DUPLICATED AND OFTEN DUPLICATED WRONG.

UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, IF WE DON'T DO A GOOD DEEP DIVE, EVERY CODE CYCLE, THINGS CAN BE MISSED.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS PUT IT ALL INTO ONE LOCATION.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH SOME OF THESE, UM, ENERGY CONSERVATION METHOD, UH, MEASURES THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO I THERE'S, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH LIKE, IF THESE CHANGES NEED TO GO FORWARD MID CYCLE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS THOUGHT OUT REALLY WELL AND NOT JUST REACTING TO GET IT IN THERE.

SO WE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PROPER STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AND GET ALL OF THAT COVERED.

I PREFERRED NOT TO DO THINGS MID CYCLE IF WE CAN HELP IT, BUT IF WE'VE GOT A BIG COUNCIL INITIATIVE LIKE THIS, THEN YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A LOT OF WORK, THEN IT'S, IT CAN BE WORTH DOING SOMETHING MID CYCLE.

BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO JUST, YOU KNOW, SNEAK IN ONE LITTLE CHANGE, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD WAY FOR EVERYBODY TO LIKE, MISS IT.

UM, IT MISS IT IN THE NEXT CODE CYCLE.

I MEAN, WE EVEN FIND WITH BIG CHANGES, UM, OFTEN AT THE END WHERE, YOU KNOW,

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THE LAW DEPARTMENTS CATCHING SOMETHING THAT, OH, YOU FORGOT TO PUT THIS IN FROM THIS OTHER ORPHAN.

SO YEAH, NOT MY PREFERENCE, BUT IF WE END UP DESIGNING, SOMETHING HAS TO GO IN THE IECC THEN, YOU KNOW, LET'S DO IT, BUT I'M JUST NOT SURE YET IF THINGS BELONG IN IECC OR IF THEY BELONG IN DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE CITY CODE.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE DONE A THOROUGH ANALYSIS AND REALLY WHERE THAT SHOULD BE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT, ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE A PRECEDENT FOR DOING IT, WE DID IT WITH SOLAR READY, UH, THE LAST, THE LAST CYCLE AS WELL.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF THERE'S A HIGH VALUE TO IT, UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY CERTAINLY WILLING TO, TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THANKS DAVID.

OTHER POINT.

YEAH, BUT I THINK YOU, I THINK YOU ANSWERED THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A, UH, MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE, UM, I GUESS THESE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT AREN'T CURRENTLY IN THE DRAFT, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THEM TO BE BIG ENOUGH ITEMS TO WARRANT A MID CYCLE, UM, YOU KNOW, A MID CYCLE UPDATE, IF, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THAT THEY DON'T MOVE FORWARD NOW.

YEAH.

CONSIDERATION OF THEM.

I THINK SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE HAVE LIKE A PACKAGE, YOU KNOW, TO GO FORWARD TO ADDRESS THE FACULTY PLAN, UM, THAT MAYBE IT MENDS THE IECC AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY CODE, BUT WHATEVER THAT PACKAGE LOOKS LIKE TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE WHOLE THING, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT IS REPRESENTED, BUT I, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT.

THAT'S FINE BECAUSE WE DO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TIMING OF THIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY IDEAL, BUT WE ARE UP AGAINST, YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO KEEP INSURANCE COSTS LOW SO THAT BACK, AND WE'LL HELP OUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COMMUNICATION TO THE COMMUNITY, WHEN THOSE CHANGES DO ROLL OUT.

IF THEY ROLL UP MID CYCLE, I THINK THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING IN THE PAST THAT WE HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL OF THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT CHANGE IS HAPPENING MID CYCLE AND ARE CAUGHT OFF GUARD.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I, I THINK, I THINK KURT TOUCHED ON THIS, BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE KNEW THAT CHANGES WERE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW BEYOND THAT KIND OF, UM, REAL INSIDER GROUP THAT, THAT WAS ON THE, ON THE, UH, STAKEHOLDER LIST.

SO I, YOU KNOW, HOPE, I WOULD REALLY HOPE, YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, GOING FORWARD THAT LIKE KURT SAID THAT THERE'S THERE'S MUCH BROADER OUTREACH, INCLUDING TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UM, ON THE FRONT END, SO THAT THERE CAN BE, YOU KNOW, JUST A MORE HOLISTIC CONVERSATION ABOUT THE OPTIONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT, UH, BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE RMC LAST TIME I DID ASK OUR STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT GROUP, IF WE CAN GET THE METRICS ON, YOU KNOW, WHO HAS VIEWED SO THAT WE CAN SEE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE THINGS ALSO GO OUT TO A STAKEHOLDER LIST THAT DSD HAS, WHICH IS A FEW THOUSAND PEOPLE.

UM, SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT, THAT IF THAT WENT OUT WITH THAT REACH, UM, SO I'M JUST LOOKING INTO THAT TO SEE IF WE CAN SEE, DID IT GO OUT TO THE FULL DSD STAKEHOLDER LIST OR WAS IT MORE OF OUR CONCENTRATED LIST? YEAH.

AND I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S ON THAT LIST, BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M KIND OF CALLING OUT.

UM, AND THIS IS AGAIN, KIND OF IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT JUST THOSE WITH, UH, A BUSINESS INTEREST IN THE OUTCOME WHO ARE CONSIDERED STAKEHOLDERS, THAT THE COMMUNITY IS CONSIDERED STAKEHOLDERS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THOSE OF US SERVING ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, I THINK SEE IT AS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE A CONDUIT TO THE BROADER COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO IF WE'RE INFORMED EARLY ON, THEN WE CAN IN TURN, HELP INFORM OTHER PEOPLE THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY.

PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING BUSINESSES THAT MIGHT THEN LAND THEM ON THE DSD KIND OF LIST.

I UNDERSTOOD.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, WELL, IF WE DON'T HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? OKAY.

ONE MORE.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY WHILE, WHILE BETH IS HERE AND ASK SORT OF A SIDE QUESTION, UM, IS THE CITY, DO YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF EMERGENCY PLAN GIVEN THAT THERE IS A HOUSE BILL TO ADOPT

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THE INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE AS THE STATE CODE AND AUSTIN DOESN'T USE THAT? UM, IS THERE ANY PLAN TO, YEAH, WE'RE JUST GOING TO WAIT UNTIL AND SEE THE F WHAT THE VOTE HAPPENS AND PLAYS OUT.

YEAH.

I MEAN, WE HAVE IN SARAH, YOU KNOW, GAME PLAN OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO, UM, BECAUSE IF, IF THE BILL PASSES, UH, ULTIMATELY WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL BY THE JULY.

I THINK IT'S 27TH MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY LOCAL AMENDMENTS ARE CAPTURED.

THE STATE DOES REQUIRE CERTAIN TIMEFRAMES FOR ADOPTION OF CODES.

WE HAVE TO PROVIDE 30 DAY NOTICE.

WE LIKE TO PROVIDE 90 DAY NOTICE.

UM, WE HAVE A THREE WEEK NOTICE REQUIREMENT OF WHEN WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE HAVE THE, THE HEARING.

SO THERE'S CERTAIN DEADLINES WE HAVE TO MEET.

SO WE'VE ALREADY MAPPED THOSE OUT.

UM, DSD DOESN'T HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK FOR US TO DO ON IT.

SO IT REALLY FALLS HEAVILY ON AUSTIN WATER.

UH, THEY HAVE A LOT OF WATER CONSERVATION METHODS THAT, OR REQUIREMENTS THAT, UM, ALIGN WELL WITH THE UNIFORM PLUMBING CODE THAT IS NOT COVERED IN THE INTERNATIONAL CODE.

THE INTERNATIONAL CODE REALLY KIND OF PUSH THOSE THINGS TO THEIR GREEN BUILDING CODE.

SO WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER, DO WE ADOPT AT LEAST THAT CHAPTER OF THE GREEN BUILDING CODE, AND WE HAVE TO ADOPT THE FUEL GAS CODE, WHICH IS A SEPARATE CODE VERSUS THE UNIFORM CODE EVERYTHING'S INTEGRATED IN A UNIFORM CODE.

SO THAT'S ONE REALLY GOOD BENEFIT FOR US HOW IT IS NOW, BUT IF IT CHANGES, WE'LL HAVE TO, UM, WE'LL HAVE MORE CODES.

UM, WE MAY HAVE MORE AMENDMENTS AS WELL, BECAUSE IF, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYTHING'S BEEN ALIGNED WITH THE UNIFORM CODE FOR SO LONG, UM, AND COUNCIL INITIATIVES HAVE BEEN ALIGNED WITH THAT, IT IS GOING TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WORK FOR US AND WATER AND MOVE THOSE THINGS OVER.

SO THEY ARE LOOKING INTO IT.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THE LEGISLATURE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IT'S PENDING IN COMMITTEE.

UM, BASED ON THE HEARING FROM IS EITHER A WEEK OR TWO AGO, NOTHING'S REALLY, IT HASN'T MOVED AGAIN.

SO WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON IT.

UM, SEE WHAT HAPPENS, BUT IT'S, IT'S GETTING A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE LEGISLATURE, SO WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN YET.

COULD BE A MESS WE'RE TRYING TO LIKE, NOT DO TOO MUCH WORK IN CASE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE READY FOR IT, IF IT DOES, AND MAKE SURE THAT, ESPECIALLY NOW, AS YOU HELPED, YOU KNOW, WITH WORKING GROUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, UH, SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS, UM, AND SO FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT KEEPING IS ANYTHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT CITY COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, CITY INITIATIVE, WHAT OUR GOALS ARE.

AND THEN WE LOOKED THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S JUST BEEN LINGERING IN THE CODE FOR YEARS THAT WE HAS LOST MEANING, OR IS JUST TOO EXPENSIVE WITHOUT THE PAYOFF THAT WE NEED, OR, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE DIDN'T DO A WHOLE LOT OF THAT WITH THE ENERGY CODE, BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN IS, IS IMPORTANT TO HELP MOVE THOSE THINGS FORWARD.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE ICC AND, AND THEIR NEW FORMAT MAY WORK.

WE JUST DIDN'T REALLY LIKE HOW THEY PUSH IT THROUGH AND KIND OF DISREGARDED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CITY'S INPUT.

LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT FELT LIKE, WHETHER THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS HOW WE FELT.

SO I AGREE.

WE MAY HAVE TO AMEND THE ENERGY CODE MORE IN THE FUTURE.

WE'LL JUST HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON IT, OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE SURE AUSTIN IS INVOLVED AS POSSIBLE.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE DEFINITELY ALWAYS HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE MOVING.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE NO MATTER WHAT CHANGES, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE ICC OR THROUGH THE STATE LEGISLATURE, THAT WE'RE STILL MOVING OUR CITY'S GOALS FORWARD WITH OUR, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALLEVIATE ANY FEARS ABOUT US, REMOVING THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.

AND AS STAKEHOLDERS, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU LET US KNOW IF WE ACCIDENTALLY TOUCH SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT WE HAVE A, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON HOW WE TRACK THINGS BETTER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M NOT A BUILDING OFFICIAL ANYMORE, THE NEXT BUILDING OFFICIAL CAN GO BACK AND SAY, WHY DID THEY TAKE THIS OUT? OR WHY DID THEY ADD THIS AND THEN BE DOCUMENTED, UH, WELL FOR THE FUTURE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANKS, BETH.

NOW YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

YES.

LIKE DAVID, I ALWAYS LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHEN BETH IS THERE, UM, KINDA ON THE SAME NOTE, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE UPC, UH, COV AS IS IPC.

I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MESSY.

AND I JUST WANT TO BRING, I'M SURE IT'S ALREADY ON YOUR RADAR WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEW, UM, CONDENSATION RECAPTURE AND, AND BENEFICIAL USE.

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OBVIOUSLY AUSTIN WATER IS MOVING TOWARDS, UM, LARGE USER HAVING TO KIND OF INCENTIVIZE AND THEN EVENTUALLY REQUIRE TO HAVE BENEFICIAL REUSE.

UH, BUT I KNOW FOR A SMALLEST SCALE, THE WAY THAT UPC IS SET UP WITH THE LOCAL AMENDMENT ON THE BACKFLOW PREVENTER, IT'S JUST EXTREMELY, YOU KNOW, PRETTY HIGH BAR.

AND I KNOW THAT THE GOAL IS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC WATER SOURCE AND I'M ALL FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK IF YOU, IF Y'ALL, HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT ARE EASILY SCALABLE DOWN TO THE SMALLEST GAL BUILDING THAT IS LOWER RISK, I THINK THAT WILL KIND OF HELP WITH THE, THE CONDENSATION AND BENEFICIAL REUSE.

UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT, BUT THAT'S, AS FAR AS THIS PARTICULAR, UH, COMMITTEES MEMBER, UH, COMMITTEES WORK, I THINK THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AS, UH, IN TUNE WITH THE BUILDING CODE, LIKE DAVID AND KAYVON ON THE ENERGY SIDE.

UM, BUT I WOULD SAY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD WAS THE TIMING OF THE CLIMATE PLAN, UPDATE BEING KIND OF DELAY AT COUNCIL.

AND THAT KIND OF PUT US IN THE POSITION WHERE WE KIND OF HAVE TO DRAG YOU ALL HERE.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE UPDATE, IF THAT CAN BE PLANNED BETTER.

AND YOU KIND OF, YOU KIND OF RAISE A REALLY GOOD POINT IS SAY, IF SOMEONE ELSE IS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE ALIGNMENT DOESN'T QUIET BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE VERY ACTIVE IN KIND OF ENGAGING WITH OTHER FOLKS.

AND I KNOW ZACH IS ALSO AS WELL FROM THIS OFFICE.

I THINK JUST HAVING IN THE MANUAL OF THE CODE IS EVERY TIME THEY ALL LOOK AT IT, ALSO CHECK WITH THE CLIMATE PLAN, ALSO, CHECK THEM, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO KIND OF ALIGN WITH THE COMMUNITY CLIMATE PLAN AND, AND REDUCING CARBON FOOTPRINT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THE IT'S THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE.

IT'S JUST, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE THAT WE ACCELERATE THE AMOUNT OF CARBON, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST THE CONSERVATION ALONE, JUST TO SAVE OUR WAY OUT OF BUYING FROM TIME.

IT'S ALREADY A PRETTY STEEP CLIMB.

I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE PUT SOME URGENCY IN THE CODE CONVERSATION SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE FAST ENOUGH SO THAT WE CAN REALLY HIT THE TREND.

UM, SO I'M RAMBLING, BUT THANK YOU.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK FROM THAT.

UH, NO.

I MEAN, MOSTLY I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK.

UM, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, SCALING DOWN THE CONDENSATE RECAPTURE FOR SMALLER PROJECTS, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN TALK TO US AND WATER ABOUT.

IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY TOO LATE FOR THIS CYCLES SINCE WE ALREADY GOT BOARD APPROVAL.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT THAT ON.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, NOW THAT WE'RE DOING BETTER RECORD KEEPING, IF WE CAN KEEP THAT IN THERE AND IF, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK AT WITH THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THOSE CHANGES AND THEN THE SAME THING WITH THE CLIMATE EQUITY PLAN, IF WE, YOU KNOW, MAKE NOTES TO, YOU KNOW, CHECK IN WITH THAT AND OUR LIKE RENT FOR HOUSING AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE OTHER PLANS THAT THE CITY HAS, I THINK THAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

NO FURTHER COMMENT.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU, BETH AND KURT, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OTHER PRESSING QUESTIONS.

I THINK WE BETTER MOVE ON WITH OUR AGENDA, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING ON AND TALKING WITH US TONIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR HAVING US.

OH, DOES THIS MEAN, IS IT ROB? WAS THAT JUST THE THANK YOU OR DID YOU YEAH.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, YES, THANKS.

AND NEXT UP WE

[2c) City of Austin Green Building Policy Update – Lucia Athens, City of Austin Office of Sustainability (Discussion and/or possible action)]

HAVE LUTEA TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN GREEN BUILDING POLICY UPDATE RELATED.

I THINK WE DO.

YES.

THERE SHE IS.

YOU, UH, THANKS FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOMETHING THAT, UM, I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON, UH, FOR A WHILE NOW AND IT'S FINALLY GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD.

SO IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BRING THIS TOPIC TO JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE AND IT'S IT'S, I THINK IT'S GOOD PAIRED WITH, UH, THE CODE UPDATE THAT WE JUST GOT.

THIS IS, THIS IS A POLICY PIECE, NOT A CODE PIECE.

UM, BUT WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT TODAY IS A PROPOSED UPDATE TO THE CITY'S GREEN BUILDING POLICY.

SO HOW WE HANDLE OUR OWN, UH, CAPITAL PROJECTS, NEW CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATIONS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

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SO, UM, YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY VERY MUCH AWARE THAT WE HAVE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PORTFOLIO OF, OF GREEN BUILDINGS, UM, ALREADY.

AND, UH, THIS JUST KIND OF GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE DIFFERENT LEAD CERTIFICATION LEVELS OF HOW MANY PROJECTS WE HAVE.

UH, THERE'S A WEBSITE, UH, THAT'S NOTED DOWN@THEBOTTOMHEREINLEADATX.COM.

THAT'S BEEN GETTING DEVELOPED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

IT'S GOT A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION.

IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS AND SOME, UH, ELEMENTS ARE BEING ADDED TO IT, BUT IT'S VERY INTERACTIVE.

UH, AND SO IF YOU WANT TO DRILL IN AND ALL OF THE SCORECARDS, THE LEAD SCORECARDS FOR THESE PROJECTS ARE THERE.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INFORMATION PACKED INTO THAT SITE.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE POLICY, OKAY.

THE DATE THAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING NOW, AS I SAID, IT ONLY APPLIES TO CITY ASSETS OR PROJECTS IN WHICH THE CITY PLAYS SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT ROLE.

UM, IT'S RESPONDING TO A COUNCIL RESOLUTION ACTUALLY FROM JUNE, 2019, BUT WE HAD ALREADY, UH, ACTUALLY BEFORE THE 2019 COUNCIL RESOLUTION HAPPENED, UH, A TEAM HAD BEEN SPENDING SOME TIME KIND OF PULLING OUT OF THE EXISTING POLICY, WHICH DATED ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2007 AND HAD NOT REALLY BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2007.

SO WE KNEW THAT WE WERE DUE IF NOT OVERDUE FOR AN UPDATE, BUT IT WAS USEFUL TO HAVE THIS COUNCIL RESOLUTION THAT IT DID A MINOR TWEAK TO THE POLICY.

BUT THEN IT ALSO ASKED US TO LOOK AT A MORE FULL-BLOWN UPDATE.

UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO CREATE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE POLICY DOCUMENT, A POLICY TOOL BECAUSE THERE ARE MULTIPLE RESOLUTIONS AND POLICIES AND GOALS AND PLANS KIND OF FLOATING AROUND OUT THERE THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY ALL INTEGRATED TOGETHER INTO ONE PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, A DEPARTMENT THAT'S DOING A CAPITAL PROJECT OR A PROJECT MANAGER COULD EASILY FIND ALL THOSE THINGS.

UM, WE KNEW SINCE WE HADN'T DONE AN UPDATE SINCE 2007, UH, THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE GOING TO BE REFLECTING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE STATE OF THE MARKET AND BEST PRACTICES IN THE MARKET.

UH, WE WANTED TO EXPAND THE POLICY TO COVER LEASED SPACES, AS WELL AS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, WHICH SOME PEOPLE REFER TO AS P THREES.

AND THERE WAS, UH, A REALLY USEFUL PIECE IN THE 2019 RESOLUTION ASKING US TO LOOK AT HOW WE MOVE TOWARDS NET ZERO, UH, WITH CITY PROJECTS AND OPERATIONS.

AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM A BEST PRACTICE STANDPOINT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CONSERVING, LOWERING OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT, ADDRESSING HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELLNESS AND SO FORTH.

AND BY THE WAY, I SHOULD'VE SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, I APOLOGIZE.

I KNOW A LOT OF YOU, BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME OF YOU THAT I DON'T KNOW.

AND SOME WHO LISTENING THAT ARE LISTENING IN THAT I, THAT I DON'T KNOW, I'M THE CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WE, WE HAD A VERY ROBUST INTERDEPARTMENTAL CROSS DEPARTMENTAL TEAM.

THE PROCESS HAS BEEN LED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UM, THE CITY ARCHITECT AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY MYSELF AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM.

UH, WE'VE ALSO, UH, HAD INTERSECTION WITH SOMETHING CALLED THE STRATEGIC FACILITIES GOVERNANCE TEAM, WHICH IS AN EXECUTIVE LEVEL GROUP THAT KIND OF OVERSEES THE CITY'S BUILDING AND FACILITIES PORTFOLIO AND THEN MANY, MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

UM, ONE THING THAT REALLY HELPED US IS WE ACTUALLY HAD A LOT OF PROJECT MANAGERS WHO HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF EXPERIENCE SINCE 2007, IMPLEMENTING GREEN BUILDING PROJECTS FOR THE CITY.

AND SO THEIR EXPERTISE AND THEIR JUST EXPERIENCE PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE, UM, HELPED INFORM THE POLICY UPDATE, NEXT SLIDE.

SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE.

THESE HAVE YET TO BE ADOPTED YET.

UM, I'LL GET TO THE ADOPTION PROCESS, UH, AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

SO FOR MAJOR CIP, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH,