* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:09] SO WE CAN START RECORDING NOW IF WE HAVEN'T ALREADY. HELLO, THIS IS NEHEMIAH FITZ AND THIRD, THE CHAIR FOR THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOM CATIONS COMMISSION CALLING TO ORDER A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING HERE ON MAY. THE 12TH, SIX 30 IS OUR AGREED UPON START TIME AND WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR QUORUM. SO WE ARE NOW STARTING, I'LL BEGIN WITH A ROLL CALL. I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND ORDER OF DISTRICT THAT WAY. IT'S EASY FOR PEOPLE TO, TO KNOW WHEN THEY SHOULD JUMP IN BASED ON THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF THEIR DISTRICT. AS IT TURNS OUT, I WAS APPOINTED BY MAYOR PRO TEM COUNCIL MEMBER NATASHA FROM MADISON, FROM DISTRICT ONE. AND WE HAVE COMMISSIONER SOPHIE GOT ROW ABSENCE AT THIS TIME FROM DISTRICT, UH, FROM THE MAYORAL APPOINTMENT. I'LL ASK FOR THE COMMISSIONER FROM DISTRICT TWO TO PLEASE ANNOUNCE THEMSELVES AND WE'LL COMPLETE. OUR ATTENDANCE ROLL CALL MENTIONED APODACA IS PRESENT, UM, FROM DISTRICT TWO, UH, BY, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, VANESSA POINTLESS, MALCOLM APPOINTED COMMISSION COUNCIL MEMBER WENT TO RIO. THANK YOU, DAVID ALEXANDER, THAT DISTRICT FOUR APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER, GREG. THANK YOU, DAVE FLOYD, DISTRICT FIVE, UH, APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER AND KITCHEN ALIAS DIVERSITY DISTRICT SIX, APPOINTED BY MACKENZIE KELLY, MAXINE ISLAND, APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER LIZ. I PULLED DISTRICT SEVEN. THANK YOU. UM, OH, I'M SORRY. NO, NO, I'M SORRY. UM, I'M NICOLE THOMPSON AND I AM, I WAS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, KATHY TOVO FOR DISTRICT NINE. THANK YOU. APPOINTED BY ALISON ALKER COUNCIL MEMBER FROM DISTRICT 10. GREAT, THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, WE ARE CALLED TO ORDER WE'LL TRANSITION TO SYSTEM COMMUNICATION, UH, GENERAL AT THIS TIME, NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP, SO WE'LL TRANSITION [1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – April 14, 2021] TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM APRIL THE 14TH, 2021. I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND, AND THEN WE WOULD HOLD THE VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 14, APPROVE THE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER ISLAND. UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER FLOYD THIS TIME WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES, RIGHT BEFORE 10TH AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SAY AYE, AND SHOW YOUR HANDS. UM, IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED? IS THERE ANYONE ABSTAINING? UH, I, YES, I WILL ALSO UPSTATE, RIGHT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, UH, COMMISSIONERS. FIRSTLY, WERE YOU VOTING IN THE AFFIRMATIVE OR VOTING TO ABSTAIN? ABSTAIN? OKAY, SO WE HAVE TWO ABSTENTIONS AND WE HAVE NINE VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. SO THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED. AND WITH THAT, WE TRANSITIONED TO NEW BUSINESS. DO NOT A NUMBER TWO, UH, BEGINNING WITH [2A. Council Committee Agenda Request for Council Vote Tablature] AGENDA ITEM TWO, A THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUEST FOR COUNCIL VOTE TABLATURE FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. IF YOU'LL ALL LOOK INSIDE THE INVITATION FOR OUR QUORUM OR RATHER THE CONFIRMATION EMAIL FROM JARED, FROM JESSE STATING THAT WE ACHIEVED A QUORUM. UM, I BELIEVE THAT MESSAGE INCLUDES ALL THE DOCUMENTS FOR THIS MEETING. AND THAT INCLUDES THE SPECIFIC COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUESTS FOR COUNCIL, BOTH TABLATURE, [00:05:02] UH, JUST TO CONFIRM EVERYONE CAN MAKE SURE, LET ME KNOW IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE DOCUMENT, PLEASE. OKAY, WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN JUST ONE MOMENT. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, UH, EVERYONE HAS A COPY OF IT AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT. UM, HELLO, TIRPITZ WE ARE ALSO DISPLAYING THIS ON THE, UH, ON THE SCREEN BEFORE ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T HAVE IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO IT. OKAY. THAT'S VERY HELPFUL AS WELL AS FOR EVERYONE FOLLOWING ALONG AT HOME. UH, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF COURSE THAT EVERYONE HAS A VISIBILITY TO THIS. UH, THAT'S ON OUR CALL TODAY. SO ANYONE CAN NOT SEE THIS BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, PLEASE SAY SO NOW. HM DON'T HAVE IT UP IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I'VE SEEN IT. SO I JUST HAVE TO FIND IT. OKAY, WELL WE CAN, WE CAN GIVE YOU TIME TO, TO PULL IT UP. UH, WELL, WE CAN KEEP MOVING FORWARD. CAN YOU SEE IT ON THE SCREEN? OKAY, GREAT. GREAT. AS LONG AS YOU CAN SEE IT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN SEE IT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ISLAND. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER YATES. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT? YEP. JUST HAD TO UNMUTE HERE. OKAY. UM, ONE THING AT THE BOTTOM CALLED THE DOCUMENT, IF YOU SENSE, UM, THIS DATA SET WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION AND THEN THOSE ITEMS I DON'T BELIEVE ARE INCLUDED IN THE DOCUMENT. DO THEY NEED TO BE IN CLEARLY? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AS I LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT MYSELF. AND SO ONE OTHER POINT, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE TYPO. I THINK, UM, WHAT'S THE, THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO POPULARIZE A TABLE TABULAR DATA SET. SO I THINK WAS JUST WORD TOO NEEDS TO BE INSERTED HERE IN THE BOTTOM. SO JESSE, I SENT YOU, UM, THE, THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY INCLUDED IN THE REQUEST FROM THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS, COUNCIL, COMMISSIONER GATES. I HAVE RECEIVED THAT. OKAY. SO IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN MODIFY THIS ON THE FLY BEFORE WE APPROVE IT? I DON'T HAVE EDIT ACCESS TO THE DOCUMENT THAT'S BEING DISPLAYED, BUT I DO HAVE A COPY THAT IS EDITABLE UP ON MY PC. SO IF, AS LONG AS Y'ALL CAN READ THE CHANGES INTO THE RECORD, I CAN MAKE THEM. OKAY. SO DOES THAT NEED TO BE DONE, UH, VERBALLY THEN? I, BECAUSE I GOT THE LIST HERE. OKAY. WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY, WE'RE DOING THE DISCUSSION POINT NOW. SO, UH, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE AS A DISCUSSION POINT, I DON'T THINK IT REQUIRES ANY DISCUSSION TO ADD THE WORD TO, UH, BELOW, I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, THE ITEMS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL, UH, IS THAT SOMETHING WHICH YOU FEEL AS THOUGH NEEDS TO ENRICH THIS DOCUMENT OR, UH, DOES THE REFERENCE, UH, TO NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCILS SUPPLIES? NO, I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE DOCUMENT. AND MAYBE IF JESSE COULD FORWARD THAT LIST TO EVERYONE NOW, JUST SO THEY'D HAVE THE DOCUMENT TO LOOK AT WELL, UH, THAT, THAT MAY BE POSSIBLE AS WELL. ALTHOUGH WE ALREADY HAD A CHALLENGE WITH ACCESSING DOCUMENTS EARLIER. UM, PERHAPS IF JESSIE COULD SHOW THOSE ITEMS ON THE SCREEN, THEN WE COULD ACTUALLY ALSO SPEAK TO IT. I JUST EMAILED THE ITEMS TO THE COMMISSION. UH, IT'LL TAKE ME A MINUTE TO GET THEM TO A PLACE WHERE IT CAN BE DISPLAYED BY THE AB TEAM SINCE IT LIVES IN MY EMAIL. AND I'LL HAVE TO CONVERT TO A DOCUMENT AND THEN UPLOAD TO A SHARED DRIVE BEFORE I CAN DISPLAY WELL, THAT WON'T BE NECESSARY [00:10:01] IF I CAN DISPLAY, UH, FROM MY SCREEN. SURE THING. IT'S COMING YOUR WAY. OKAY. YEAH. I'VE GOT IT HERE, SHERIFF IT'S I HAVE A COMMENT. UH, YES, I'M READY. UM, MY COMMENT IS, YOU KNOW, WE GOT SORT OF WRAPPED ROUND OR ANKLES BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO CREATE A SOLUTION THAT WOULD GO BACK AND CREATE A TABLET AND RECORD ELECTRONIC RECORD OF ALL PAST VOTES IN DECISIONS WHERE, WHEREAS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS GOING FORWARD FROM THE DAY THE VOTE IS TAKEN AND IT IS STAFFED TO SUPPORT IT, THAT BE CAPTURE OF FUTURE VOTES AND RECORDS. SO THERE IS ONE WHERE A STATEMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EDITED SO THAT IT SAYS SPECIFICALLY THAT WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT PAST RECORDS, THAT WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT FUTURE RECORDS. I AGREE WITH THAT COMMENT. YES. THAT SEEMS TO BE A FAIR, A FAIR SUGGESTION. UH, I THINK THE SAME SIX TO SEVEN, WHEREAS IT FEEDS TO BE EDITED. THAT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE SUGGESTION TO ME. UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THAT IN THE NEGATIVE OR IS THAT PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD TO EVERYONE? CAUSE IT'D BE WHAT'S OUR INTENT TO, TO, TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE. SO THAT WAY EFFORTS AT ANY TYPE OF MASSIVE DATA AGGREGATION EXERCISE, WOULDN'T SCUTTLEBUTT THIS, OR SLOW THIS DOWN WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, LET ME SEE IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN NOW HERE. OKAY. UM, TWO-PART PROCESS HERE. SO WHERE WOULD WE INSERT THIS ADDITIONAL IF HE CAN BRING THAT? UH, I CAN POINT TO, YEAH, JESSE, IF YOU'D BE SO KIND AS TO LEAVE THAT. AND THEN I'LL, UH, SINCE THAT DOCUMENT IS ACCESSIBLE FROM THE CITY AB AS I'M LOGGING ON FROM MY LAPTOP TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE OTHER DETAILED CHANGES FROM, FROM THE LIST THAT YOU EMAILED OUT. SURE THING. WELL, PULLING UP THE OTHER DOCUMENT BACK UP. THANK YOU. OKAY. LOOKING AT, OKAY. I THINK THAT, UM, WE COULD PROBABLY SLIDE IT IN UNDER THE, AS PART OF THE THIRD SENTENCE. UM, WELL LET ME BE MORE SPECIFIC. I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION AND THEN I'D LIKE TO GET SOME FEEDBACK, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE WORD EDUCATED, UH, EDUCATION IMPLIES A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN INFOR AND THEN INFORMING, UH, I KNOW THAT I WOULD CERTAINLY LOVE THAT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WAS EDUCATED AND ENGAGED, UM, BECAUSE DO AGREE THAT THAT'S ESSENTIAL FOR THE HEALTH OF OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. UM, BUT I THINK, I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT [00:15:01] BE, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, OF, UH, LARGE ASPIRATIONS FOR US TO TRY TO, TO, TO REACH FOR. I THINK THAT WE'RE CLEARLY WORKING TO INFORM PEOPLE AND MAYBE THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, NOT SO IMPORTANT TO CHANGE FOR EVERYONE ELSE, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD SWITCH, EDUCATE TO INFORM. I AGREE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. I MEAN, I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS JUST LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST CAM LANGUAGE THAT'S USED IN THESE TYPES OF DOCUMENTS, BUT, UM, I THINK THE WORD EDUCATED IS NOT EXTREMELY INCLUSIVE AND, UM, I WOULD DEFINITELY CONCUR WITH YOU ON MAYBE USING ANOTHER, UM, ADJECTIVE TOO. RIGHT. LET, LET, LET ME THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND LET ME ALSO BE CLEAR, UH, TO THANK COMMISSIONER YATES FOR, UH, HIS WORK. I'M NOT SURE IF HE PERSONALLY, UH, CHOSE THE, THE WORDING OF THE LANGUAGE HERE, BUT I DO KNOW THAT HE PLAYED A LARGE ROLE IN CONSTRUCTING THIS REQUEST. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, NONE OF US ARE COPYWRITERS. I KNOW THAT. AND SO, UH, THIS IS NOT BY ANY MEANS TO, TO SHOW A STURDY FOR WORD CHOICE, BUT JUST HOPEFULLY TO, UH, DABBLED IN, IN TERMS OF OUR INTENT FOR THE DOCUMENT, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM MR. YATES, HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT KIND OF CHANGE AND CHANGING FROM THE WORD EDUCATED TO INFORMED. I AGREE WITH THAT, I PRETTY MUCH TOOK THE VERBIAGE FROM THE ORIGINAL OFFICER WHO COUNCIL RESOLUTION, AND I BELIEVE THAT THEIR INTENT WAS NOT EDUCATED, BUT TO BE INFORMED. SO I THINK THIS IS A BETTER CHOICE OF WORDS. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, DOES THAT, THAT MAKES ME FEEL COMFORTABLE, ESPECIALLY WITH YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS. UH, SO I, I I'VE RAISED THAT FIRST BECAUSE WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT THEN, UH, FOCUSING ON THE SUBJECT MATTER THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO INFORM PEOPLE ON. UH, RIGHT. SO THEN IF WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THAT CHANGING, UH, EDUCATED TO INFORMED, THEN I THINK THE NEXT SENTENCE MIGHT BE A LOGICAL PLACE, UM, OR AFTER THE NEXT SENTENCE, BECAUSE THE NEXT SENTENCE READS THE VOTING RECORD AND LEGISLATIVE HISTORY OF A GOVERNMENT BODY IS FOUNDATIONAL AND ESSENTIAL ESSENTIAL INFORMATION FOR EDUCATED AND ENGAGED, UH, COMMUNITY. UH, SO WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HOW TO SWITCH EDUCATED. WE COULD PERHAPS ADD RIGHT AFTER THAT. UM, UH, AND THAT NEXT SENTENCE, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS BOTH THE MEANS AND THE STATE OF INTENT TO MAKE GOVERNMENT MORE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AND COULD DO SO BY BEGINNING TO TRACK CITY COUNCIL VOTES GOING FORWARD. BUT MAYBE THAT'S ONE WAY, UM, UM, CHAMPIONS. YES, IF YOU WANT TO MEET THE CHANGE, I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU GO DOWN, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU SAY NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, REQUESTS, CITY COUNCIL, TO PLACE AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE APPROPRIATE COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA TO DISCUSS WHICH OPTION, OKAY. WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR AUSTIN TO RECORD ALL FUTURE VOTES AND DECISIONS? I CONCUR THAT'S A SIMPLE WAY, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY EVEN SPEAK TO THAT, UH, IN THE WHEREAS DESCRIPTIONS. UH, SO IT'S AT FIRST REQUESTS JUST I THINK LIKE COMMISSIONER GATES IS AN IT CONSULTANT TO BE CLEAR THE FIRST SENTENCE AFTER NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TOKEN CATIONS COMMISSION REQUESTS THAT CITY COUNCIL REQUESTS, CITY COUNCIL TO PLACE AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE APPROPRIATE COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA TO DISCUSS. SO REMIND ME AGAIN, WHERE EXACTLY. SO I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO FORCE THE IMPLEMENTATION DETAILS. SO LET'S SAY WE LEAVE, DISCUSS WHICH OPTION IN THE CITY CLERKS AVERAGE REPORT OF MADE, ET CETERA, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR AUSTIN TO RECORD AND PRESENT ALL FUTURE VOTES AND DECISIONS IN A TABULAR MANNER. NEXT SOUNDS GOOD. SO AFTER AUSTIN, [00:20:01] YOU HAD TO RECORD AND PRESENT ALL FUTURE VOTES AND DECISIONS IN A TABULAR MANNER. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, YOU NECESSITATE US EDITING THE LAST SENTENCE TO REFLECT THAT SAME TIMESTAMP OF FUTURE. YEP. RIGHT? YES. ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO JUST REFER TO FUNCTION ACTION IN THAT SENTENCE WHERE YOU'RE DESCRIBING THE PROJECT, YOU COULD SAY THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO PUBLISH A TABULAR DATA SET, UH, YOU KNOW, OF FUTURE CITY ACTION, A FUTURE CITY ACTION, AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS FUTURE VOTING RECORDS. SO YOU COULD JUST MODIFY THAT SENTENCE RATHER THAN MAKING ANY REFERENCE OR CHANGING ANY OF THE OTHER DOCUMENT THAT MIGHT BE EVEN EASIER. THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. I MAKE IT IN BOTH PLACES, THIS BABY VERY CLEAR. WELL, UH, I, I DEFINITELY LET'S SEE HERE, UH, LESS IS MORE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DO APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE IMPORTANCE FOR DELIVERY, BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR US BEING DELIBERATE, UH, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT USING INTENTIONAL LANGUAGE, UM, SO I GUESS SOME OF THE QUESTION TO ASK OURSELVES, DO WE TRULY SACRIFICE CLARITY BY ONLY PUTTING IT IN ONE PLACE? THAT'S THE NEXT QUESTION? I THINK WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PAST BECAUSE OTHERWISE THIS WILL BE USED AS AN EXCUSE TO NOT DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A MONUMENTAL TASK. WE'VE GOT TO EMPHASIZE THE FUTURE. I THINK YOU'VE GOT A VERY GOOD POINT THERE. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT COMMISSIONER THOMPSON BEAVERS BREAD, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS HAS BEEN UP FOR DISCUSSION FOR SO LONG, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THIS, IN THIS PARTICULAR SENTENCE, AND THIS ARE IN THIS CAUSE DOWN HERE WHERE YOU'RE DESCRIBING THE PROJECT, BECAUSE THE REST OF THE TH TH THE FIRST PART OF IT, YOU KNOW, IT STARTS FROM THE NOW, IT'S JUST BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THE INTENT OF, OF OUR, OUR, THE, THE, THE PARTS OF THE PROJECT, BUT THIS SENTENCE WHERE YOU'RE SPEAKING THIS PROJECT, REALLY, TO ME, THE, THE MEAT OF WHAT THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT. AND SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO BE CONCISE, BUT ALSO TO BE SPECIFIC, TO USE VERY INTENTIONAL LANGUAGE IN THAT SENTENCE, I THINK IT WOULD SUFFICE RATHER THAN PUTTING IT IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, I I'M, I'M THE OTHER ONE WHO BELIEVES THAT LESS IS MORE SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE TO, I DON'T THINK THAT IT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, ADDS MORE STRENGTH TO THE ARGUMENT TO PUT IT IN TWO DIFFERENT PLACES. I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REALLY CLEAR AND INTENTIONAL. AND SO IF YOU MADE THAT PARTICULAR SECTION RIGHT THERE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY CLEAR, I THINK IT WAS DEVICE. WELL MEAN, THE ONE THING I WILL SAY, I WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT OPINION. UH, BUT THEN THE SECOND THING I WANT TO SAY, UH, IS, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PINS ON THIS, FOR YOUR PENS ON THIS. I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE THING AND I WANT TO OPEN IT UP TO THE REST OF THE BODY FOR THEIR FEEDBACK, BECAUSE AS I'M READING ALONG, UM, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT, ABOUT BREVITY, UH, THE FIRST SENTENCE IS SPECIFICALLY, UH, REALLY IN RELATION TO THE ACT OF REQUESTING CITY COUNCIL TO PLACE AN ITEM OF ON FULFILL THAT AGENDA ITEM ONLY APPROPRIATE COUNTS COMMITTEE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET THAT KIND OF STAND ON THE SONG. I CAN SEE THE MERIT FOR THAT NEEDING TO STAND ON THE SONG, BECAUSE THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THE NATURE OF THE REQUESTS, NOT THE CONTENT OF THE REQUEST. UM, AND THEN THE NEXT LINE, FURTHER REQUESTS, THE CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATE SUFFICIENT FUNDS AND FYI 2021 22, A BUDGET TO PURCHASE HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR THIS SYSTEM. SO THERE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION BECAUSE NOW WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT WHAT, UH, SO WHEREAS READING ALONG, UM, IF THAT, IF THAT DIDN'T REFER TO, UH, ALREADY A SOLUTION, UH, THEN I THINK THAT COULDN'T BE THERE WOULDN'T BE AS MUCH [00:25:01] ROOM FOR CONFUSION, BUT THEN, THEN YOU CONTINUE AND FURTHER REQUESTS, CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATE SUFFICIENT FARMS IN ALL FUTURE BUDGETS FOR MISSIONALLY FTE, A POSITION TO ADMINISTER THIS SYSTEM ONCE AGAIN, REFERRING TO THE SYSTEM. UH, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, FURTHER REQUEST CITY COUNCIL, DIRECT CITY MANAGER, AND THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ALLOCATE SUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO MANAGE THIS PROJECT. AND THEN OF COURSE THE SYSTEM SYSTEMS, THE PROJECT, AND THEN WHAT THE PROJECT IS, UH, THEN THE SUGGESTION IS OBVIOUSLY TO SPECIFY, UH, TERM, UH, OR AT LEAST START DATE BEING FUTURE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, FIND POSTS FOR FUTURE, UH, DATA COLLECTION AT THAT POINT, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE MENTION, WHEREAS BEFORE READING OUT LOUD, I DIDN'T SEE SO MANY REFERENCES TO THE PROJECT AND THE SYSTEM, THEY KIND OF, THEY REALLY JUMPED OUT, UH, NOW. UM, AND, UH, HAVING SAID THAT I'M STILL KIND OF ON THE FENCE. I REALLY LIKE TO GIVE OTHERS A CHANCE TO WIN BECAUSE I COULD SEE HOW JUST PURELY ADDING AT THE PROJECT LINE OF LAST LINE. THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO, AS WE ALREADY AGREED UPON PUBLISH, PUBLISH, UH, A FUTURE, UH, PUB TAB, TABLET, DATA SET USEFUL IN QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS OF CITY, A FUTURE CITY ACTION, AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS VOTING RECORDS. I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY EXPLICIT, UM, AS FAR AS THE PROJECT. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, I LIKE TO GET SOME OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS. CAN I GET A CHANCE FOR, UH, GIVE IT A CHANCE FOR, UH, I DON'T WANT TO CALL ON ANYONE, BUT THE COMMISSIONER THAT HASN'T SPOKEN ON THIS YET TO SPEAK UP ABOUT IT, CHERISH PITS IS COMMISSIONER UP A DACA. UM, I THINK YOU, YOU MAKE SOME MONEY, SOME GOOD POINTS. UM, I WANT TO PERHAPS MAKE A RECOMMENDATION INSTEAD OF A HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE. PERHAPS WE USE A BLANKET TERM RESOURCES, UM, AND FOR SYSTEM PERHAPS REPLACE THOSE WITH EFFORT. SO THAT SECOND LINE THERE WITH SAY, UH, PURCHASE RESOURCES FOR THIS EFFORT. BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, I, I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T SEE THE DOWNSIDE AND INCLUDING THE FUTURE FOCUSED LANGUAGE ON, UH, IN BOTH AREAS, MOSTLY DISCUSSED. THAT'S VERY INTERESTING, UM, BECAUSE HEARING THAT MAKES ME THINK THERE'S ENOUGH. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY PERHAPS TO EVEN GET RID OF A SENTENCE, IF WE DO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PERHAPS SAY AND FURTHER REQUEST THAT CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATE SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN ALL FUTURE BUDGETS FOR, EXCUSE ME, AS YOU SAID, UH, UH, FUNDS AND THE FYI 2021 BUDGET TO PURCHASE RESOURCES FOR THIS EFFORT AND ADDITIONAL FTE AND ADDITIONAL FTE POSITION TO ADMINISTER THE SYSTEM WE COULD, IF WE WANT, UNLESS WE JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IT HABITS WOULD BE A PHONE CALL OUT. UH, THAT'S ONE THOUGHT, BUT, UH, ENOUGH OF MY THOUGHTS, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMISSIONER DACA, UH, UH, COMMISSIONERS REMAINING ON THE CALL. AND YOU WENT UP FROM LAND ON THIS, THAT HASN'T YET. I DO LIKE THE CONCEPT OF COMBINING THE TWO SENTENCES TOGETHER. UM, YEAH, I THINK COMBINING THOSE TWO SENTENCES TOGETHER, STREAMLINES IT, UM, IN, AND IN AVOIDS ANY KIND OF CONFUSION. I DO THINK WE DO NEED TO MOVE UP OR MAKE SOME TYPE OF REFERENCE TO WHAT THE PROJECT IS EARLIER ON, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO REFERENCE, UM, IN THAT KIND OF FLOW OF THE SENTENCES. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER IRELAND, UM, UH, FOR THAT ANYONE ELSE WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT COMMISSIONER? FLOYD COMMISSIONER, UH, ALEXANDER YEAH. I'LL, I'LL TRY TO, YEAH. UM, I WOULD I ACTUALLY, YEAH, I LIKE THAT LAST IDEA WHERE PUTTING MAYBE YOUR FIRST, WHEREAS, WHEREAS A, UM, LET'S SEE. YEAH. AN OPEN, JUST SOMETHING ABOUT THE OPEN DATA PORTAL, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, VOTING RECORDS IS IMPORTANT FOR TOURISM ACCESS AND A REVIEW, SOMETHING I AGREE, LIKE SET IT UP UPFRONT WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND THEN THAT WAY, THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK YOUR WAY DOWN TO THE WHEREAS AND INTO THE LANGUAGE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. I ALSO AGREE WITH THAT. THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO MOVE IT UP. [00:30:02] YEAH. I AGREE. SEND, EVEN IF WE, UH, FRONT LOAD THAT INFORMATION, AS FAR AS WHAT THE GOAL IS, WE COULD INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE ABOUT THE FUTURE. SO THAT WAY THAT CAN ALL BE COMBINED. SO THAT WAY THE SCOPE IS ALSO UNDERSTOOD AT THE BEGINNING. SO IF WE JUST TOOK THE LAST, WHEREAS, AND PUT IT TO THE FRONT, THAT WOULD BE THE BASIS FOR THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT RIGHT THERE. THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A SYNOPSIS. OKAY. OKAY. I LIKE THAT. I LIKE THAT. I THINK THAT THAT DOES SET THE STAGE. AND THEN, UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON WHAT OUR AGENDA ITEM REQUEST IS, IS ON BEING THE FUTURE, MAYBE HOW ABOUT THE NEXT LINE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE, UH, WHEREAS IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT FUTURE VOTING ACTIONS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO, UH, TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY OF ALL FUTURE CITY ACTION AND OUR, YOU KNOW, ALL FUTURE FUTURE CITY ACTION BORROWING FROM THEIR LAST, LAST SENTENCE IN, IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENT. UM, WHEREAS WHEREAS IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO RECORD ALL FUTURE CITY ACTION AND ELECTED OFFICIAL VOTING RECORDS. AND THEN WE GO TO, WHEREAS AN INFORMED AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY IS ESSENTIAL. UM, I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT SOUND? BECAUSE THEN WE, WE, WE SHIPPED IT, WE SET THE STAGE BY REMINDING THEM WHAT THEY ALREADY DID. WE WE'VE BEEN STAYED ON THAT INTENT, WHICH IS TO PURELY HAVE FUTURE VOTING RECORDED. AND THEN WE SLIDE INTO THE REST OF THE LANGUAGE AS IT, EXCEPT WE SWITCH OUT INFORMED FOR EDUCATED. WE ADDED TWO DOWN BELOW, AND THEN WE COMBINE UNDER THE, NOW THERE ARE FOUR SECTION WE COMBINE THE SECOND AND THIRD SENTENCE TO SAY, AS COMMISSIONER APODACA SUGGESTED AFTER, UH, FYI 20, 21, 2022 BUDGET TO PURCHASE RESOURCES FOR THIS EFFORT AND BUDGET FOR ADDITIONAL AND ADDITIONAL FTE POSITION TO ADMINISTER THIS EFFORT OR TO, TO ADMINISTER OR FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR ADMINISTRATION. UH, AND THEN WE GO TO THE LAST SENTENCE AND WE ADD THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO PUBLISH A FUTURE TABULAR DATA SET, USEFUL, AND QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS OF FUTURE CITY ACTION. SO ON AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I THINK THAT COVERED EVERY CHANGE THAT WE'VE KIND OF DISCUSSED AS A GROUP, BUT I DO WANT TO CHECK IN JUST TO MAKE SURE HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THAT COMMISSIONER, UH, AT THOMPSON BEAVERS. HA HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? I KNOW THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ACHIEVING BREVITY BY COMBINING, BUT WE'RE ALSO ADDING, UH, SOME CLARITY IN THE WEST SECTION. I THINK THAT SOUNDED HELPFUL. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? OH, THAT'S REALLY GOOD DIRECTION, YOU KNOW, COMBINING ALL OF THAT AND, UM, AND REFERENCING TO THE EFFORT AND, UM, JUST THE ALLOCATION OF THE BUDGET. I MEAN, YOU COULD EVEN SAY ALLOCATION OF A BUDGET IN, UH, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, HARDWARE, SOFTWARE AND, UM, FTES TO ADMINISTER THE PROJECT OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, ALL THAT COULD BE EVEN ADDED INTO ONE SENTENCE, BUT I THINK YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. OKAY. OKAY. BECAUSE I, ME, THE SUGGESTION, THE SUGGESTION TO SAY RESOURCES AND NOT SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE, I DIDN'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR COMMISSIONER APODACA. UH, WAS THAT JUST FOR BREVITY OR WERE YOU WANTING TO GET OUT OF THE WEEDS OF SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE? UH, WHAT, WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS COMMISSIONED OFF THE DOCTOR? UM, MORE OF THE SECOND IS GETTING OUT OF THE WEEDS AND NOT NECESSARILY DICTATING A SOLUTION. RIGHT, RIGHT. UH, [00:35:01] AND THAT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A HAND BEING RAISED BY COMMISSIONER. UH DASGUPTA YEAH. IN FACT, I AGREE WITH THIS CHANGE, YOU GO ANYWHERE FROM HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE, BECAUSE IF YOU DO, IT COULD BE, IT COULD ALSO INCLUDE PRINTING FOR INSTANCE. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE SOLUTION IS THE BETTER WORD OR I BELIEVE HIS SUGGESTION WAS RESOURCES I'M IN GREECE. I'M MEAN I'M ANDREW SMITH. SORRY. OKAY. NO PROBLEM. OKAY. SO W WITH THAT EXTRA INSIGHT FROM COMMISSIONER APODACA, DOES RESOURCES SEEM LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE WITH HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE. I KNOW THAT I PERSONALLY, UH, AS I IMAGINED WHAT HE WAS GOING FOR, I COULD SEE THE ADVANTAGE OF, UH, JUST EVEN AS WE TALK ABOUT TRAINING AS COMMISSIONER DASGUPTA MENTIONED, UM, YOU'RE WERE BASICALLY KIND OF GIVING A WORD THAT COVERS THOSE THREE THINGS. UH, I KNOW THAT SINCE WE'RE VERY DELIBERATE ABOUT HOW WE'RE FOCUSED ON FUTURE, UH, AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO, UH, TO INCLUDE SOME DETAIL HERE ABOUT, UH, WHICH I CAN SHARE FROM MY SCREEN NOW ABOUT, UH, EXACTLY WHAT, UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD INCLUDE THIS, INCLUDE THIS PIECE, BUT, UM, THERE'S A COMPONENT WHICH DETAILS, UH, THE DATA POINTS THAT WOULD THEN ALSO MAKE IT MORE CRYSTALLIZED THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR, UH, FOR A HUGE TO-DO. AND IT WOULD ALSO PICK THE GUARD THAT'S AGAINST, UH, SOMEONE IMAGINING THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO PURCHASE SOME KIND OF SIX-FIGURE SOFTWARE PROJECT FOR THIS. UM, AND THEN TO PURSUE THAT WHEN THAT'S CLEARLY NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. UM, BUT LET ME ADD THIS TO THE SCREEN HERE AND SEE WHAT Y'ALL THINK. UM, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT JESSE SENT EARLIER, BUT THIS, WE CAN ALL LOOK AT THEM AT THE SAME TIME. SO SHARE, UH, EXCUSE ME. DO I HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, SHARE MY SCREEN NOW? UH, YES. HOLD ON. I SHOULDN'T BE GIVING IT TO THE LAPTOP, RIGHT? NOT AT THE MOMENT, CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU FOR ASKING. OKAY. SHOULD WE GET, OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT COMING UP SLOWLY, BUT SURELY AS WE PULL THIS UP, UH, JESSE, WOULD YOU MIND SHARING, UH, JUST KIND OF CONFIRMING, UH, YOUR, HOW YOU'RE TRACKING AND ALL THOSE, THOSE CHANGES THAT WE WERE TALKING THROUGH, PRIMARILY I'M TR I'LL BE LOOKING AT BACK AT THE VIDEO TO CAPTURE THIS. I'M ATTEMPTING TO HAVE A DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF ME. UM, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE CHANGES, BUT I CAN'T ALWAYS TYPE AS QUICKLY AS CHANGES ARE COMING THROUGH. I CAN SORT OF UNDERSTAND THAT. OKAY, WELL, THIS IS GETTING TO THE POINT OF BEING, UH, OKAY. I BETTER OFF JUST READING IT TO YOU, [00:40:05] LOOKING THROUGH THESE, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE. AND NOW OF COURSE, AS SOON AS THEY GET READY TO READ THEM, IF THEY APPEAR ON THE SCREEN, OF COURSE, MURPHY'S LAW. UH, SO IF YOU LOOK TO THE FAR RIGHT OF THE SCREEN, UM, YOU CAN SEE THERE AS A, IS NOT THE IDEAL PRESENTATION, UH, METHODOLOGY, HOWEVER, UH, FOR PURPOSES WILL SUFFICE. THIS DATASET WILL CONTAIN MEETING DATE, ITEM, DESCRIPTION, MEMBER, NAME, MEMBER, DISTRICT, BOTH CAST REASON FOR ABSTENTION AND CASE OF CONFLICT, UH, PRESENT DURING BOAT, UH, REASON AFTER, DURING VOTE AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THIS, UH, DATASET WILL DEPENDENT UPDATES TO THE TWO HOURS. SO THE THING THAT I'D LIKE TO CONFIRM WITH THE COMMISSIONER GATES, IF I CAN, UH, THIS IS INFORMATION THAT'S ALREADY BEING GATHERED, I ASSUME, WITH EVERY COUNCIL BOAT THAT'S SUBMITTED WITH EVERY COUNCIL VOTE, BUT I, THE NUMBERS ABOUT, FOR INSTANCE, THE REASON FOR, UH, CONFLICT OF INTEREST. SO, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, WHAT IS RECORDED NOW WAS BASICALLY THE SUMMARY OF THE VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR ONE, NOTHING ELSE, AND EVERYTHING ELSE YOU, YOU PICK UP ON YOUR OWN. OKAY. WELL, I, I DID, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY CONFIRM, UH, AS A GROUP, WHAT WE WANT THIS TO INCLUDE. UM, BUT I KNOW THAT AS I THINK IT THROUGH, UH, LOGISTICALLY THE LESS, THE LESS, UH, YOU KNOW, MANUAL DATA COLLECTION THAT WE'RE EXPECTING, I THINK FROM, UH, FROM THE, THE RESOURCES INVOLVED THE BETTER, BUT, UM, PERHAPS THERE'S SOME VALUE IN NOT, AND NOT SPECIFYING, UM, BEYOND JUST SOME THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE PURELY COLLECTIBLE BY DATA. UH, YOU KNOW, BY SCRUBBING, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DECIDE IS IF WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE IN THIS EFFORT OR WHAT WE DESCRIBED AS IN OUR REQUEST, A SPECIFIC LIST OF DATA POINTS THAT WE WANT THEM TO CAPTURE OR NOT. WELL, I KNOW THAT DURING COUNCIL VOTES, THEY SAY THERE WAS SIX, FOUR, AND THREE AGAINST WITH THIS OFF THE DIE. THAT'S ALL THAT HE'S SAYING. OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, IN THE INTEREST OF, OF TIME, UH, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO GET INTO OUR PLANNING, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD AGREE UPON, UM, UH, THE BASICS OF, WE WANT TO INCLUDE HERE, UH, AND, AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE WANT THE TABULATIONS TO AT LEAST INCLUDE THESE THINGS. AND HOW DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? IS THERE SOMEONE THAT HAD A COMMENTARY? YEAH, IT WAS JUST, THIS IS, UM, MAXI. I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION, WE COULD PUT A MINIMUM, LIKE AT MINIMUM HAVE MEETING DATE, YOU KNOW, MEMBER, DISTRICT CAST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. SO MEETING DATE, IT SEEMS LIKE, OKAY, LET'S KIND OF GO DOWN THE LIST HERE, THEN, UH, MEETING THE ITEM DESCRIPTION. THAT SEEMS PRETTY IMPORTANT. NUMBER, NAME, NUMBER, DISTRICT, THAT'S ALL VERY, UH, TABULAR, LOW CASTE TABULARY REASON FOR ABSTENTION AND CONFLICT THAT COMES, UH, OBVIOUSLY NON TABULAR PRESENT FOR THE VOTE. THAT'S TABULAR REASON, ABSENCE FOR A VOTE NON TABULAR. SO BASICALLY WE ONLY HAVE TWO THINGS [00:45:01] THAT, THAT ARE NOT TABULAR. UM, SO IF WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, THIS LIST BEING SUFFICIENT, EXCEPT FOR REASON BEFORE EXTENSION IN CASE OF CONFLICT, OR MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE, UH, WELL, YEAH, BECAUSE THE BOAT ITSELF WOULD INCLUDE EXTENSION, UH, RIFLE THAT WILL BE TALLIED AS FAR AS THE BOAT. SO IT'LL BE FOUR AGAINST AN ABSTENTION. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REMOVING REASONS FOR EXTENSION AND REASON FOR ABSENCE, RIGHT? BOTH OF THOSE PIECES OF INFORMATION WOULD REQUIRE MORE SEARCHING, PROBABLY, PROBABLY KIND OF ARBITRARY AND NOT VERY OBJECTIVE EVEN. SO, UH, PERHAPS WE CAN, IN THE INTEREST OF ACTUALLY GETTING THIS PASSED, WE CAN TAKE THOSE OUT. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, ESPECIALLY SINCE, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S JUST COMPLICATES THE DATA COLLECTION EFFORT. UM, SO I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT. OKAY. SO THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHERE DO WE PUT THEM? UM, OKAY. SO LET ME JUST ESTABLISH CONSENSUS BEFORE CHANGED THE SCREEN AND GIVE AB BACK TO THE CITY. UH, ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS LIST OF ITEMS TO INCLUDE IS SUFFICIENT WITH THE REMOVAL OF THOSE TWO REASONS FOR ABSTENTION AND REASON FOR ABSENCE? UH, I'D LIKE TO GIVE ANYONE A CHANCE TO MIX WITH, JUST TO KIND OF SPEAK UP, UH, IF YOU'VE GOT STRONG FEELINGS AGAINST THAT RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE THAT THE MOTION HAD BEEN MADE TO, UH, USE THE TERMS INCLUDE THIS INFORMATION MINIMAL. RIGHT, RIGHT. UH, I THINK, UH, YOU'RE CORRECT. THE, THE THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THOUGH, IS TO MAKE SURE I LIST, UH, IS, IS, UH, LIKE YOU JUST SUGGESTED IF WE REMOVE THE TWO ITEMS FROM THE LIST, THEN EVERYTHING ELSE. RIGHT. SO I'M JUST LOOKING TO GET CONFIRMATION THAT THIS LIST AT A MINIMUM IS GOOD WITH EVERYONE. WE DO HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ISLAND. UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER MOTION, UH, THE VIOLENCE MOTION. UH, ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE FLIP AT A MINIMUM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF REASON FOR EXTENSION AND REASON FOR ABSENCE COMMISSIONER ISLAND? YES. OKAY. WELL, I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. UM, AND THEN BASED ON THAT, UM, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND DO A VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF INCLUDING OF AGREEING TO THE MOTION HERE THAT WE INCLUDE THIS LIFT ABSENT REASON FOR EXTENSION AND REASON FOR ABSENCE. UH, PLEASE SAY, AYE, OR ENTER YOUR HAND. AYE. ANYONE OPPOSED ANYONE ABSTAINING? OKAY. SO WE ALL AGREE. SO WITH THAT, THEN I LIKE TO GET 80 BACK TO THE CITY AND, UH, TO WHAT WE HAD UP AS THE DOCUMENT COMING UP FOR WINTER. REALLY. THANK YOU. AND, AND JESSE, GO AHEAD AND MAKE NOTE OF THE TIME NOW, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR TIME STAMP FOR US ALL AGREEING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THIS DOCUMENT. SO BASED ON, WELL, NOW WE JUST HAVE TO CONFIRM, UH, WHERE WE GOING TO PUT, INJECT THAT LIST OF MINIMAL, UH, DATA REQUIREMENTS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE DOCUMENT. THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO IT EARLIER, UH, THAT SOMEONE NOTICED, WELL, RIGHT DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, SAYS THIS DATA SET WILL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION, AND THEN WE JUST PUT IT THERE. BOOM. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, GRANTED, YOU SAY WHERE TO PUT IT. SO COMMISSIONER YATES IDENTIFIED THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE DOCUMENT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE PHRASING TO INCLUDE FUTURE, BUT RIGHT AFTER THE LAST SENTENCE, THE DATASET WILL CONTAIN THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION. I SEE. YEAH, I'VE GOT IT. I GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, NO PROBLEM. SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND READ THROUGH, UH, AS I HAVE, UH, WE'VE ESTABLISHED A CONSENSUS HERE ON THE CALL FOR WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS DOCUMENT. OKAY. WHAT'S THE POINT HERE? AND THAT IS THIS DATA SET WILL INCLUDE AT A MINIMUM, THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION. THAT'S A GREAT CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THAT WAS INDEED THE SPIRIT OF A COMMISSIONER ISLANDS MOTION OF THAT. I SECONDED. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY. SO LACK OF, IT'S GOING TO READ [00:50:01] LIKE THIS, WHEREAS AN INFORMED THEY'LL SEE ME, WHEREAS CITY COUNCIL PASSED ON FEBRUARY 7TH, 2019 IN RESOLUTION DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY CLERK TO RESEARCH BEST PRACTICES FOR ELECTRONIC VOTE, RECORDING AND REPORT THE RESULTS OF THE INVESTIGATION IN MAY OF 2019, WHEREAS AND INFORMED. NO, IT WAS WHEREAS THE COLLECTION OF FUTURE CITY ACTION. NO, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. I FORGOT WHERE IT IS. THE INTENT OF THE, OF THIS COMMISSION TO US TO, UH, TO SUPPORT THE COLLECTION OF FUTURE. UH, WE'VE SENT IT EARLIER TOO, DIDN'T WE, UH, WHERE, WHEREAS IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO COVERT FUTURE OF COUNCIL ACTIONS. WOULD IT HELP FOR ME TO READ WHAT I HAVE? IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT THANK YOU. WHAT I HAVE AS, WHEREAS IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY OF ALL PICTURES, CITY ACTIONS. YES. THAT'S THAT WAS THE, THE NET SUBMIT. SO WHEREAS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO HELP INFORM, UH, UH, THE COMMUNITY OF ALL C ACTION AND OUR ELECTION ELECTED OFFICIALS VOTING RECORDS. OH YES. IS IT REALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THIS COMMISSION OR IS IT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL? SO SHOULDN'T WE SAY THAT IT IS INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL INFORM ALL WELL, LET'S BE MORE SPECIFIC WHAT WE'RE WE'RE I THINK WE SHOULD SAY, WHEREAS IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION TO HELP, BECAUSE WE WERE LITERALLY ADVISORS OF CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, LIKE, SO OUR INTENT IS TO HELP THEM BY BYPASSING, RIGHT? SO I THINK WE SAY WORRIED IS OUR INTENT TO HELP IT BY CITY COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TO, IN SERVICE OF THE COMMUNITY. SO IT BY CITY COUNCIL. SO I GUESS I ABOUT THAT, WHERE IT HAS THE INTENT TO IT BY CITY COUNCIL IN SERVICE OF THE COMMUNITY. YEAH. I LIKED THAT. I LIKED THE LOT, UH, WHERE IT IS THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION TO ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL IN SERVICE OF THE COMMUNITY AND TRANSPARENCY. THEN WE GO TO, WHEREAS AN INFORMED AND ENGAGED COMMUNITY IS ESSENTIAL TO THE HEALTH OF OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND IT READS VERBATIM UNTIL WE GET TO THAT LAST PARAGRAPH, WHICH HAS BEEN, UH, MOVED TO THE, AND THEN WE TRANSITIONED TO THE NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TELLS THEM CASES, COMMISSION REQUESTED COUNSEL TO PLACE THEM IN THE ITEM ON THE APPROPRIATE COUNCIL MEMBER, COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA VERBATIM UNTIL THE SECOND PARAGRAPH. AND THEN WE ARE EDITING AND FURTHER REQUEST THAT CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATE SUFFICIENT FUNDS AND FYI 2021, 2022 BUDGET TO PURCHASE RESOURCES FOR THIS EFFORT AND FOR AN ADDITIONAL FTE POSITION TO ADMINISTER. THEN IT TRANSITIONS VERBATIM. IN THE LAST PARAGRAPH, THE PROJECT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF BOSTON TO PUBLISH A TABLET DATA SET OF USEFUL SET USEFUL EIGHT TO ME, THE PROJECT WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF BOSTON TO PUBLISH A FUTURE TABULAR DATASET USEFUL IN THE QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS OF FUTURE CITY ACTION AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, FUTURE VOTING RECORDS TO THE CITY'S OPEN DATA PORTAL. THIS DATA SET WILL CONTAIN THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION AT A MINIMUM COLON. AND THEN WE DUMP IN THAT LIST, [00:55:01] WHICH IS VERBATIM, JUST LIKE WE'VE MOVED AND VOTED ON TO INCLUDE MEETING DATE, ITEM, DESCRIPTION, MEMBER, NAME, MEMBER, DISTRICT, VOTE, CAST ATTENDANCE. AND THAT'S IT. OKAY. I DON'T LIKE TO MAKE IT A MOTION TO APPROVE OF WHAT HAS JUST BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD, THE MOTION TO APPROVE WHAT IT'S BEEN READ TO THE RECORD AND STEPPED BY COMMISSIONER GATES AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. DASGUPTA ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING. WHAT HAS BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE SAY AYE, AND SHOW YOUR HAND. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED? IS THERE ANYONE ABSTAINING? AYE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A VOTE OF NINE AND THE AFFIRMATIVE AND ONE ABSTENTION. OKAY. SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT, UH, AGENDA ITEM, EXCUSE ME. IT TAKES CARE OF THAT ITEM IN OUR AGENDA THAT WE GO TO [2B. ATXN Staffing Support] ITEM TO BE ATX IN STAFFING SUPPORT, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. UH, THIS WILL BE A BRIEF ITEM. UH, I HADN'T ADDED TO THE AGENDA BECAUSE, UH, THERE WAS SOME OUTREACH, UH, BY REGARDING THIS AGENDA ITEM. AND, UH, AFTER A LITTLE BIT OF A BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THE LANGUAGE, IT WAS AGREED THAT OUR INITIAL, UH, LANGUAGE WAS SUFFICIENT. AND SO AT THIS POINT, I DON'T SEE ANY NEED FOR FUTURE ACTION OR FURTHER DISCUSSION, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE SURE TO MENTION THAT, UH, SINCE WE HAD IT ADDED IN CASE WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS IT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY. WITH THAT, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED IN OUR AGENDA TO THE NITTY-GRITTY OUR AGENDA ITEM [2C. Commission Work Plan Retreat – Setting Commission Priorities for the Next Year] TWO C THE COMMISSION WORK PLAN RETREAT, SETTING OUR COMMISSION PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT YEAR, UH, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. UH, JESSE, UH, I'VE GOT THOUGHTS, UH, JUST TO KIND OF FRAME THE DISCUSSION. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WANT TO, UH, PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW FIRST OR IF I BETTER TELL THEM FIVE, MY THOUGHTS THE NOW INITIALLY BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, WELL, I CAN OFFER A VERY QUICK SYNOPSIS OF KIND OF WHAT WENT INTO GETTING US TO THIS POINT AND THEN SEE WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO GO FROM THERE. UM, SURE. UH, SO I REQUESTED ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO SEND ME THEIR, UH, TOP PRIORITIES FOR THE COMMISSION TO TACKLE OVER THE NEXT YEAR. I TOOK THAT LIST AND TRIED TO COMBINE LIKE IDEAS FROM DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS. AND THAT RESULTED IN THE LIST THAT IS, THAT WAS SHARED, UH, AS A GOOGLE DOCUMENT TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS. UM, SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONSOLIDATION AND I ALSO HAD TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS ON UNDER WHICH A WORKING GROUP TO PLACE SOME OF THE ITEMS. SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I WANT Y'ALL TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT THE ITEMS WHERE THEY'RE, WHERE THEY ARE PLACED ARE APPROPRIATELY PLACED. AND ALSO IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS THAT AREN'T REPRESENTED IN THIS LIST THAT, UH, ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE DURING THE COURSE OF THE DISCUSSION, MY SUGGESTIONS FOR HOW TO GO THROUGH, UH, THIS SESSION IS TO FOCUS ON ONE WORKING GROUPS, ITEMS AT A TIME, AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, UH, GO THROUGH EACH LIST AND, UH, IF WE NEED TO PUMP AN ITEM TO A DIFFERENT WORKING GROUP OR TO THE OVERALL COMMISSION, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. UM, AND JUST TAKE THESE WORKING GROUPS ONE BY ONE. AND THEN, UH, AT THE, UH, ONCE WE'RE THROUGH WITH ALL OF THE EXISTING WORKING GROUPS, WE CAN GO TO THE LEVEL TO DISCUSS, UH, ANY ITEMS THAT DON'T FIT WITHIN A SINGLE WORKING GROUPS PER VIEW. AND, UM, IF WE NEED TO CREATE ANY ADDITIONAL WORKING GROUPS, WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. UM, SO THAT IS, THAT IS MY SUGGESTION FOR HOW TO PROCEED WITH THIS, BUT I AM CERTAINLY, UH, WILLING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH WHAT THE COMMISSION'S WISHES ARE. UH, AS A TECHNICAL NOTE, UH, I'LL HAVE OUR CITY, A V TECH, UH, DISPLAYING WHERE WE ARE IN THE GOOGLE DOCUMENT AT ANY GIVEN TIME. I'M ALSO IN THE WORKING DOCUMENT TO MAKE EDITS AS WE GO. UM, THERE MIGHT BE A, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE HOW SIGNIFICANT THE DELAY [01:00:01] IS GOING TO BE FROM MY EDITS TO MAKE IT TO THE DISPLAYED VERSION. UM, BUT I WILL BE TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF THIS AS WE GO. CERTAINLY IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO ACTIVELY EDIT THE DOCUMENT AS WELL, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU ALL TO DO THAT, UH, WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THIS MEETING. SO ONCE THE MEETING CLOSES, I'M LIKELY GOING TO CHANGE THE PERMISSIONS BACK TO NOT EDIT BECAUSE, UH, IT WOULD BECOME, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, MULTIPLE COMMISSIONERS POTENTIALLY OVER QUORUM OPERATING IN A SINGLE DOCUMENT. SO THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE IF WE EXTENDED THE EDITS PAST THE MEETING TIME. SO THAT'S, UH, MY INTRODUCTION THERE, HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS. UM, AND I'LL, UH, SEE IF TIRPITZ WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM HERE. OH, AS A FINAL NOTE, UH, UH, WE HAVEN'T HEARD YOUR CHAIR PADS. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE STILL MUTED, BUT, UH, I, I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT THE, EACH ITEM HAS THE COMMISSIONER'S NAME IN FRONT OF IT, WHO PROPOSED IT. UM, SOME OF THESE, UH, THAT CAME FROM COMMISSIONER JUST GROUP TO ARE ON THE, UH, THE CURRENT COMMISSION WORK PLAN. UM, UH, JUST AS A NOTE, BUT IN THE FINAL DOCUMENT, THOSE, UH, THOSE NAME REFERENCES ARE JUST GOING TO GO AWAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, EACH OF THESE ITEMS IS CREDITED FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION. I SEE. SO I WAS, UH, MUTED BY AB APPARENTLY I DIDN'T MUTE MYSELF. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU, SIR. PETS. OKAY, GOOD. SO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY, UH, EARLIER, UH, I WAS TRYING TO INTERJECT, UH, BUT THANK YOU FOR, FOR CARING FOR, FOR CLARIFYING EVERYTHING. FIRST OF ALL, I TRYING TO THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION, JESSE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS THOROUGH. I DO WANT TO MAKE MENTION OF ONE THING, UH, AS I, UH, WELL, FIRST OFF I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO ACTUALLY, UH, FOUND THE TIME. I KNOW OUR TIME IS VERY VALUABLE IN THE WE'RE ALL VERY BUSY. UH, AND YET WE'RE ALL ASKED TO CONTRIBUTE AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL AHEAD OF TIME, AND TO, TO SHARE, UH, AT A LIST OF PRIORITIES FOR WHAT YOU THOUGHT THE COMMISSIONER REALLY FOCUSED ON FOR THIS YEAR. AND JESSE HAS TAKEN THE TIME TO THEM MATCH THOSE TWO DIFFERENT WORKING GROUPS, AS BEST AS WE CAN. ONE THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME IS, AS I LOOK AT, UH, OUR WORKING GROUPS IS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THREE WORKING GROUPS BEFORE WE LOOK AT ENTERTAINING, ADDING ADDITIONAL WORK IN GROUPS. SO I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING OFF OF ANYONE'S PLATE THAT THEY REALLY EMBRACE AS A RESPONSIBILITY. UM, ESPECIALLY AS WE'VE BEEN RAMPING UP MORE AND MORE AT THE SAME TIME. UH, YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO BE CANDID. UH, YOU KNOW, IF ANYONE HAS ANY CHALLENGES WITH, UH, THE DEMANDS ON THEIR TIME AT THE WORK GROUP LEVEL AND FEEL AS THOUGH IT MIGHT BE DIFFICULT, THEN WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE THREE WORKING GROUPS, UH, CONTINUE, UH, OR NOT. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN, UH, JUST DISCUSSING THAT GENERALLY, IF EVERYONE STILL FEELS GOOD ABOUT THE DIVISION, UH, WITHIN THREE WORKING GROUPS AND, UH, HAVING THREE WORKING GROUPS, UH, PARTICULARLY, UH, BEGINNING WITH, UH, OUR VICE CHAIR, BECAUSE I KNOW HE, HE CHAIRS ONE OF THE OTHER WORKING GROUPS, AND I MAY HAVE STRONG THOUGHTS ON THIS AS WELL. SO I'D LIKE TO ASK THE VICE CHAIR, ALEXANDRA, IF YOU COULD WEIGH IN ON THIS, PLEASE. YEAH. SO I THINK IT'S, UM, A GOOD QUESTION TO EXPLORE. I MEAN, WELL, I WANT TO, WE SHOULD BREAK THIS UP INTO MAYBE, UH, TWO AREAS OF DISCUSSION, MAYBE ONE, I GUESS, ONE PART OF IT BEING, UM, DO WE THINK THAT WELL, YEAH, I GUESS CAN WE THINK THAT OUR CURRENT WORKING GROUPS ARE STRUCTURED AND FOCUSED AND BE TARGETED IN WAYS THAT MEET THE COMMISSION'S OVERALL [01:05:02] GOAL? UM, SO THAT'S, I GUESS THE FIRST LEVEL OF, UM, ANALYSIS, AND THEN MAYBE SECONDLY, WE COULD LOOK AT, WE CAN LOOK AT THE PROPOSALS AS FAR AS HOW THEY'VE BEEN SLAUGHTERED AND THEN SEE IF THE MEMBERSHIP REFLECTS THAT TO THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE WORKING GROUPS. MAYBE, UM, THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO, TO JOIN A WORKING GROUP OR A LI ONE, IF THEY REALIZE THAT THEIR INTERESTS LIE ELSEWHERE. SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING CONSIDER MAYBE A THIRD ELEMENT OF THIS AS I'M LOOKING AT THE, UM, THE STRATEGIC, UM, WORKING GROUP AND I GUESS THE RESULTS THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN FROM IT, BECAUSE I ENDED UP INITIALLY IN PART FROM THAT WORKING GROUP TO TRY AND ESTABLISH, UH, WHAT TYPE OF CONFERENCE OR FURTHER DEVELOP PARTNERSHIPS. UM, SO MAYBE THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE EXAMINED AGAIN. SO THOSE VARIOUS, SOME SORT OF MY INITIAL THOUGHTS ON, ON THAT, UH, COMMENT HERE. YEAH. I FEEL THAT BY CONSOLIDATING A NUMBER OF AREAS, ONE GROUP, WE ARE PUTTING TOO MUCH OF A BURDEN ON ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE. AND IF WE HAD MORE GROUPS, WE COULD SPREAD OUT THE WORK MORE AND HAVE LESS OF A BURDEN. AND THAT WAY PEOPLE COULD FOCUS ON SMALLER LOOPS OF TECHNOLOGY. I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, THAT'S, UH, AN INFORMED PERSPECTIVE. I KNOW, AND I ALSO APPRECIATE, UH, UH, VICE CHAIR ALEXANDER STATEMENT. UH, MY THOUGHT IS, UM, THIS, I THINK THAT I, I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO CERTAINLY TO SHARE THE LOAD MORE. UM, I, I THINK THAT WHETHER OR NOT WE END UP, UM, KEEPING THE WORKING GROUPS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THREE WORKING GROUPS TO BE CLEAR, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION AND DATA STEWARDSHIP WORKING GROUP. WE HAVE THE, UH, WE HAVE THE, UH, VISUAL INCLUSION, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND STRATEGIC, UH, IMPACT, BASICALLY WORKING GROUP, UH, YOU KNOW, STRATEGIC POLICY IMPACT WORKING GROUP, AS IT RELATES TO TECH AND TELECOM. AND THEN WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE WORKING. THOSE ARE THE THREE WORK GROUPS WE HAVE NOW, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UH, VISUAL INCLUSION WORKING GROUP, UH, WHICH IS INCLUSION THAT IS NOT WORKING GROUP. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WORKING GROUP WAS EFFECTIVE AT ACHIEVING THE COLLABORATIVE PROJECT AND BY VIRTUE OF THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING THAT WE HAD AROUND, UH, VISUAL INCLUSION AND POLICY, UH, INCLUDING POLICY MAKERS AND, AND CITIZENS. UH, UH, SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S DEMONSTRATED, UH, SOME, UH, SOME USEFULNESS AND FOCUS AS PART OF THE DIGITAL INCLUSION WORKING GROUP. I, I SEE REAL VALUE THERE. UM, I THINK THAT WE'RE SEEING NOW, UM, PROBABLY INCREASING NEED FOR KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION, DATA STEWARDSHIP AS A WORKING GROUP, AS WE LOOK AT EVALUATING, UH, MORE HANDS-ON WHAT TOOK PLACE WITH THE WEBSITE AS WE LOOK AT, UH, THIS YEAR BEING A RESIDENTIAL TECHNOLOGY STUDY YEAR, UH, AS WE LOOK AT, UM, THE, THE NEED TO REALLY GET A HANDLE ON CITY PILOTS, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ATLAS ONE, APD APP IS ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT. UM, I PERSONALLY DO SEE REAL VALUE, UH, AND, AND THE, THE WORKING GROUPS, WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT THOUGH, IS THAT ALL THREE WORKING GROUPS MEET ON A CONSISTENT BASIS AND ARE ABLE TO GET TOGETHER ON A CONSISTENT BASIS. AND SO THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, OUR [01:10:01] AVAILABILITIES CERTAINLY COME INTO PLAY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE THE RIGHT THAT SCHEDULE, I THINK HOPEFULLY WE DO FREEZE WORKING GROUP. UH, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. UM, I GUESS I'D LIKE TO ASK IF, IF, UNLESS ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, STRONG THOUGHTS ABOUT WORKING GROUP STRUCTURE, WE CAN PIVOT TOWARDS EVALUATING THE PRIORITIES THAT JESSE HAS OUTLINED FOR THE EXISTING WORKING GROUPS, AND THEN START TO BE MINDFUL OF REDUNDANCIES. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP TO BEGIN WITH IS THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO STRONG FEELING THAT WE SHOULD REALLY MAKE A MASSIVE CHANGE. UH, JUST KEEP IN MIND, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, STREAMLINING. UM, WE DO ALSO HAVE TO MANAGE IN ADDITION TO, UM, WORKLOAD, WE HAVE TO MANAGE CORE ISSUES, UH, RIGHT. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A WALKING QUORUM, UH, MEANING WE CAN, WE CAN KNOW WE CAN HAVE NO MORE THAN FIVE PEOPLE IN ANY WORKING GROUP, FIVE COMMISSIONERS AND ANY WORKING GROUP. SO WITH THERE BEING, UH, 11 OF US, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DOES, YOU KNOW, THE HAVING THREE WORKING GROUPS DOES CREATE A SCENARIO WHERE AS LONG AS THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THREE COMMISSIONERS THAT SHOW UP FOR EVERY MEETING, WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING DONE. UM, BUT IN SCENARIOS WHERE WE HAVE ONLY TWO, UH, SHOW UP OR ONE FOR WORKING GROUP, THEN, THEN THE BURDEN IS NOT REALLY SHARED EQUALLY. SO IF, UNLESS ANYONE HAS ANY STRONG FEELINGS OR IDEAS ABOUT WORKING GROUP STRUCTURE RIGHT NOW THAT ARE RELEVANT REGULATORY, UM, I SUGGEST THAT WE DIVE INTO THE PRIORITIES AND TO START TO KIND OF LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE REDUNDANCIES. HOW DOES THAT SOUND? SO THEY WANT TO POST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO POST TO THAT OR HAVE ANY FEELINGS ABOUT THAT. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. I THINK WE OUGHT TO START LOOKING AT THE PRIORITIES AND THEN LATER ON, WE CAN DECIDE REARRANGE THE PERSONNEL TO EVERYONE'S SATISFACTION THAT CAN HAPPEN LATER. I AGREE WITH, UH, AND, UM, YES, I THINK THAT, THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE. ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND STEP RIGHT IN THEN. UM, AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT FOUND THE TIME TO ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE PRIORITIES. UH, IT HELPS US OUT QUITE A BIT. AND, UH, AS WE SEE HERE AT THE BEGINNING, UH, WITH, UH, KNOWLEDGE OF PERMISSION AND DATA STEWARDSHIP WORK GROUP, UM, THERE'S QUITE A LIST HERE. I DON'T SHARE THIS WORKING GROUP. I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND HAND IT OFF, UH, TO COMMISSIONER, ASSUMING VICE CHAIR OUT VENDOR TO LEAD THIS EFFORT, UH, FOR THE KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION AND DATA SEARCH AT WORKING GROUP. OKAY. SURE. WELL, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIR PITS. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR SUBMITTING THEIR, THEIR THOUGHTS, ALL AGENDA ITEMS, IF YOU WILL, OR, OR WORKING FOR VIRGINIA ITEMS, UM, FOR US TO EXPLORE, UM, WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO THINK, JESSIE BULWARK, WILEY, ALL OF THIS. I, UM, I WAS TAKING SOME NOTES ON IT AS WELL, AND THIS WAS, IT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE IT ALL IN A GOOGLE, GOOGLE DOC THAT WE CAN EDIT. SO I THINK I'M KIND OF LOOKING THROUGH THESE ITEMS. SO I SEE, UH, COMMISSIONER ISLAND HAD SOME POINTS ABOUT PROGRAMS, RESOURCES, DIGITAL KIOSKS, AND THEN ALSO, UM, EXPRESSING CONCERNS ABOUT TAKING THE SHOES WITHOUT GOOD. I'M SORRY. IT LOOKS LIKE, OKAY. IS, IS EVERYONE MUTED THERE? MAYBE SOME BACKGROUND NOISE OR A MAYBE, UH, I'M NOT SURE, BUT I GOT, I GUESS WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. UM, SO I THINK, OH, DIGITAL FORUM. OKAY. TWO PEOPLE SUBMIT IDEAS FROM THE COMMUNITY ITSELF. SO I, I THINK [01:15:01] THESE TWO SUGGESTIONS KIND OF OVERLAP AS FAR AS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT THIS PARTICULAR WORKING GROUP IS FOCUSED ON, WHICH IS A PILOT PROGRAMS. SO IN THE PAST, UM, WE, THE WORKING GROUP HAS DEVELOPED, UM, THE, UH, THE SUPPORT FOR THE WI-FI LENDING HOTSPOT, THE WIFI HOTSPOT LENDING PROGRAM. WE AT AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY, AND WE ALSO RECEIVED SOME UPDATES ON, UM, DIGITAL KIOSKS IN THE PAST PAST, ALTHOUGH PRETTY, PRETTY LIMITED IN THE LEVEL OF, OF DETAIL AND, AND I GUESS THE RECURRING UPDATES OF IT. SO THAT IS ONE THING THAT THIS WORKING GROUP IS FOCUSED ON, UM, AS FAR AS PILOT PROGRAM. SO I SEE THAT, UM, CHAIR PITS INCLUDED A FEW OF THOSE AS WELL. SO SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS, ATLAS, ONE APD APP, UM, COMMUNITY FIRST, THREE PRINTING, HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS, AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES. UM, I THINK WE COULD ALSO ADD THE, UM, THE WI-FI HOTSPOT LENDING PROGRAM TO THAT AS WELL. UH, BECAUSE I, I NOTICED THAT CHAIR PITS INCLUDED INFORMATION ABOUT EXPANDING THAT, SO WE COULD, UH, PERHAPS INCLUDE ANOTHER, UH, BULLET THERE BECAUSE, UH, SO I SEE IT'S CURRENTLY PILOT AUDIT AND ASSESSMENT, SO IT'S AB THE PROGRAM THAT ALREADY EXISTS, BUT THAT MIGHT BE A FORM OF ASSESSMENT. SO I GUESS THAT KIND OF IS LINKED TO CHAIR OR COMMISSIONER ISLAND'S OBSERVATION ABOUT, UM, A DIGITAL FORUM. SO THAT COULD BE A PILOT PROGRAM OF TORTS OR THE DIGITAL KIOSK THAT I COULD ALSO, WELL, I GUESS THOSE DO EXIST, BUT, UM, MAYBE AN ASSESSMENT ON THAT. OH, YES, PLEASE. UH, COMMISSIONER HIGHLAND. I AGREE THAT, UM, I THINK IT COULD BE PUT UNDER THE PILOT PROGRAM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, UM, WIFI, BUT MORE SO FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY KIND OF TECHNOLOGY TO CONNECT TO WIFI. SO, UM, ANYBODY THAT CAN GO AND FIND THIS INFORMATION THAT'S READILY AVAILABLE TO THEM. UM, SO THAT'S THE OPTION. IT WAS A DIGITAL KIOSK ISN'T NECESSARILY THE MOST, UM, PROBABLY FINANCIALLY FRIENDLY THING TO DO, BUT, UM, JUST SOME KIND OF FORUM OR SOME KIND OF PLACE WHERE AROUND TOWN WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO GET THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT IS AS VISIBLE TO INDIVIDUALS NECESSARILY NEED IT. SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S ITS OWN KIND OF BULLET POINT MAYBE. UM, I DO THINK THAT THE DIGITAL FORUM COULD PROBABLY GO UNDER, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY PILOT OR THE SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS. I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO GET LOST. AND I, I APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THAT. THAT DEFINITELY MAKES SENSE THAT WE, WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF, OF ANY BIG, UH, SO YES, I'M, I'M GLAD THAT YOU, YOU BROUGHT THAT UP AND, UM, YES. ARE THERE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER POINTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT, UM, YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THESE, UH, ON THIS PARTICULAR WORKING GROUP, AS FAR AS THE ITEMS YOU SUBMITTED? NO, I THINK THAT COVERS IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY, GREAT. THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT ALL MAKES SENSE. UM, SO PERHAPS WE COULD, UM, LET ME THINK SO, WELL, MAYBE YOU COULD BRING IT UP TO OTHER MEMBERS OF THE WORKING GROUP TO WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON, UM, THE, UM, EXPLORING THE DIFFERENT TASKS AND PERHAPS HAVING AN UPDATE ON, ON THEIR DEVELOPMENT? UH, WOULD THAT BE A GOOD PLACE TO START AND THEN ALSO EXPLORE THE DIGITAL FORUM AS A POSSIBLE PUBLIC PROGRAM THAT COULD BE CREATED? IS THAT, IS THAT SEEM IN LINE WITH THE SPIRIT [01:20:01] OF THESE ITEMS? I THINK SO. UH, I KNOW THAT, UH, WE HAVE WROTE THE SUBJECT BEFORE, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO A DIGITAL FORM AND WANTING TO LEVERAGE PUBLIC SPACES IN PARTICULAR, UH, WITH SOME TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY. SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE IT'S A PRIORITY, UH, ESPECIALLY AS COMMISSIONER ISLAND'S SUGGESTED, YOU KNOW, FOR COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS, UH, WHICH WE OF COURSE ARE SEEKING TO SERVE YUP. COMMISSIONER UP A.COM. UM, CERTAINLY AGREED WITH, UM, LOOKING, UH, RESEARCHING THE FEASIBILITY OF THE DIGITAL KIOSK AND WOULD BE INTERESTED, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD PERHAPS AS A NEXT STEP TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SPECIFIC CITY PROGRAM OR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES COULD BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THOSE. OH YEAH. YOU KNOW, THIS DISCUSSION BRINGS TO BRINGS UP THE POINT TIP, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, UH, UM, UM, WHAT'S HIS NAME? JASON JOHN, MY OLDEST SON, UH, IN THE, IN OUR WORKING GROUP MEETING WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS BACK WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE, UH, DIGITAL TREES AT BUS STOPS AND THEY PUT SERVICE BUS STOPS WITH SOLAR PANELS ON TOP AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING KIOSKS, ET CETERA, FOR PASSENGERS WAITING TO GET ON A BUS. SO THERE COULD BE A MARRIAGE HERE BETWEEN WHAT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT IS THINKING OF AND WHAT WE WERE THINKING OF HERE. SO I THINK THAT THIS MARRIAGE MADE IN HEAVEN. YEAH. AYE, AYE, AYE. AYE. AYE. YEAH. WELL SAID, WELL STATED I CONCUR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE USE, UH, UH, MATRIMONIAL ANALOGIES FOR THE SORT OF THE COLLABORATION OR NOT, UH, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE IN TERMS OF THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLABORATION, UM, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LEVERAGING THOSE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE POINTS FOR SMART CITY TECH, AND THEN ALSO FINDING A WAY TO LEVERAGE THAT FOR INCLUSION TECH AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT EFFICIENT BY DOING IT AS THEY'RE DIGGING UP THE GROUND AND ALSO DO THAT, THEY'RE EXPANDING THE MOBILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT, UM, THAT MULTIPLICATION EFFECT, I, I GUESS IF IT WAS A MATRIMONY, YOU'D HAVE TO BE ONE WITH MULTIPLE PARTNERS, UH, AS PART OF THAT ENGAGEMENT. SO MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE BEST ANALOGY TO USE, BUT WHAT DOES COLLABORATION, BECAUSE I DEFINITELY RECOGNIZE THE NEED. UH, AND, AND, AND, AND I THINK AS WE ALL AGREE THAT IT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR US FOR THE CITY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S AWESOME. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO, TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT MY, UH, STATE OF PRIORITIES I'VE LISTED HERE. I THINK, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, AS WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN TO SPEAK ON SOME OF THESE AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL, OR EVEN AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL, UH, IT'S VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD IN TERMS OF EQUITABLE BROADBAND, GEOGRAPHICAL DATA REPORT AND ANALYSIS. UH, THOSE ARE ALL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S WORDY, BUT IT DESCRIBES WHAT MY THOUGHT PROCESS WAS. I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE ABLE TO GATHER DATA ABOUT BROADBAND THAT THIS WORKING GROUP WILL BE THE PERFECT CONDUIT FOR PUBLISHING THAT DATA, OR AT LEAST BEING PART OF THAT REQUIREMENTS, GATHERING EFFORT, ALONG WITH THE, UH, DIGITAL INCLUSION WORKING GROUP, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE COUNCIL VOTING DATABASE, WE JUST TOOK SOME GREAT ACTION ON THAT. AND THE RESIDENTS TECHNOLOGY CITY, WHEN IT COMES TO NUMBER NINE, UH, RELATE TO PILOTS. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THERE, UH, UH, VICE-CHAIR ALEXANDER, WHAT MY THOUGHT WAS THAT, UM, WE, WE HAVE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO BEING INVOLVED IN, UH, PLANNING AND STRATEGY FOR SOFTWARE, OBVIOUSLY. UH, BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE TO, UH, UH, COME FROM BEHIND ON THAT. MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS TO, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE CTM AND HOPEFULLY, UH, YOU KNOW, TO ENABLE US TO BECOME A STRATEGIC PARTNER, UH, OFFERING INSIGHTS INTO ANY PILOT THAT THEY'RE ENGAGED ON. UM, I'D LIKE TO OFFER, UH, THE TECHNOLOGY, THE SOFTWARE, UH, THE AUDIT, UH, THAT WAS PERFORMED ON SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BEGIN OFFERING INSIGHTS AS A WORKING GROUP. [01:25:02] UM, AND TO THE MANAGEMENT OF THOSE ROLL-OUTS, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WHICH I RECEIVED LAST FALL, UM, THAT, UM, WANTS TO SHARE AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL. AND I THINK THIS WORKING GROUP IS THE GROUP TO BEGIN THAT, UM, THAT, UH, ASSESSMENT, AND THEN OF COURSE, TO SHARE THAT WITH THE WHOLE COMMISSION, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, BUT TO GIVE THE, THIS WORK HAVE A CHANCE TO OFFER UP OUR THOUGHTS FIRST, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE ATLAS ONE APD APP, AS AN EXAMPLE, WE, WE SPOKE ABOUT THIS AND ANOTHER WORKING GROUP. ACTUALLY, WE SPOKE ABOUT IT IN THIS WORKING GROUP, RIGHT. UM, THAT TO ME IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A PILOT THAT WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN, UM, THAT WE CAN ADD REAL VALUE. UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO GET SOME INSIGHTS INTO HOW THIS WAS ROLLED OUT TOMORROW. ACTUALLY WE HAVE A CONFERENCE CALL SCHEDULED AND SEVERAL OF US WILL BE ON THERE TO LEARN HOW THAT HAPPENED. BUT I USE THAT AS A POINT OF REFERENCE BECAUSE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO OFFER MORE INSIGHTS. UH, AND THAT'S THE GOAL. UM, THERE'S OTHER PILOTS THAT JUST REALLY SEEM INTERESTING TO ME AS IT RELATE TO A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES THE CITY IS FACING RIGHT NOW, UH, WITH, UH, PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND, UH, THE COMMUNITY FIRST THREE 3D PRINTING, UH, SOLUTIONS THAT THEY'RE UNDERTAKING. I'M REALLY CURIOUS WHAT THEY'RE DOING OUT THERE. AND, UM, I THINK SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO EXPLORE THAT FURTHER. AND OF COURSE, UH, THERE'S A BREADTH, UH, I'M SURE, UH, PILOTS RELATED TO AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES AND DRONES THAT WE HAVE, UH, HAVE HAD DESCRIBED TO US, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH MORE INSIGHT INTO, SO THIS HAS BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, TO GET ENGAGED ON THE PILOT SIDE. AND WE'VE GOT ABOUT, I'D LIKE TO ONLY SPEND ANOTHER, UH, 55 MINUTES. SO, UM, THAT'S MY LAST WORD HERE AT, AT, AT, FOR CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THIS WORKING GROUP, I'D LIKE TO RETURN TO YOU VICE CHAIR, UH, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO REALLY FOCUS ON HERE BEFORE WE TRANSITIONED TO OTHER WORKING GROUPS. OKAY. SURE. WELL, I THINK THAT COVERS A LOT OF IT. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I I'D LIKE TO ADD IS, UM, WE COULD INCLUDE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD NECESSARILY GO UNDER A SEPARATE BULLET POINT OR UNDER PILOT ASSESSMENT, BUT I SAW THAT, UH, THAT COMMISSIONER UNITS HAD A, UH, A FAULT FAULT REGARDING, UM, ZOOM LICENSE FOR CIVIC GROUPS THAT COULD COME THROUGH THE LIBRARY. SO THAT COULD BE BUNDLED PERHAPS. SO ON ONE HAND, YOU'VE GOT EXPANSION OF THE WI-FI HOTSPOT LENDING AND THEN EXPLORING ZUBIN LICENSE FOR, FOR CIVIC GROUPS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE BUNDLED, UM, I GUESS PERHAPS, PERHAPS NOT ON ITS OWN OR MAYBE UNDER VIOLET ASSESSMENT. UM, BUT, BUT YES, SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT I HAD TO, TO ADD. AND I, OH, THIS IS WELL, UH, UM, UH, I GUESS THE, THE LATEST, THIS IS WE'VE RECEIVED UPDATES ON, UH, THE VOTE TAB DECLUTTER, AND WE'RE DEVELOPING THAT ALSO MORE INFORMATION ABOUT REMOTE PARTICIPATION, ESPECIALLY AS, UM, UH, I GUESS THE CDS ORDERS AND THE EMERGENCY ORDER, HOW THAT AFFECTS REMOTE PARTICIPATION AND ALL OF THOSE FACTORS. SO THAT COULD BE LIKE ANOTHER, ANOTHER THING FOR US TO KEEP AN EYE ON IN THIS WORKING GROUP. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BECOME VERY IMPORTANT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WHEN THE GOVERNOR LIFTS THE EMERGENCY ORDERS. RIGHT. I AGREE. YEAH. I CONCUR. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S UNLIKELY TO BE A, THAT'S BASICALLY GOING TO, I THINK, LIKELY TO BE A COMMISSION WIDE FOCUS, ALTHOUGH I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WHICH THIS WORKING GROUPS SHOULD ALSO FOCUS ON AND PARTICULARLY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT INFORMATION AND KNOWLEDGE, [01:30:01] I THINK SO. AND I THINK, I THINK OTHER THAN THAT, UH, PRETTY MUCH COVERS IT AS FAR AS FAR AS I KNOW AT THE MOMENT. DOES ANYONE ELSE ACROSS THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR FEEDBACK ON ITEMS THAT WOULD BE UNDER THIS GROUP'S PURVIEW? OKAY, WELL, I'LL, I'LL NUTS. UM, I GUESS WE COULD MOVE ON TO OTHER WORDING. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SECOND, WHAT YOU SAID, CHAIR PITS ABOUT, UM, SCHEDULING REGULAR MEETINGS. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN REALLY HELPFUL AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO THINK JESSE FOR HELPING US KEEP TRACK OF THAT AND SEND IN CALENDAR INVITES. AND THAT REALLY HELPS US, YOU KNOW, AS WELL. AND SO, UM, IF OTHER WORKING GROUPS, UH, ARE NOT APPROACHING IT THAT WAY, AND IT JUST HAS THE BANDWIDTH FOR IT, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A WAY TO KEEP REGULAR PARTICIPATION. SO THAT'S JUST ANOTHER COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR, ALEXANDER. UM, I THINK WITH THAT, THEN WE'RE READY TO ROLL ONTO THE, UH, THE NEXT WORKING GROUP, UH, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT OF THE DISCUSSION. UH, I DO KNOW THAT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO AFTER WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PRIORITIES FOR WORKING GROUP IS TO RECONFIRM, UH, UH, ATTENDANCE AND PARTICIPATION, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, EVERY COMMISSIONER FEELS AS THOUGH THEY'VE GOT, UH, A COUPLE OF WORKING GROUPS THEY CAN THROW THEIR HAT INTO, WHICH WOULD BE THE IDEAL SCENARIO THAT EACH OF US ARE WORKING ON IN A COUPLE OF WORKING GROUPS, AT LEAST. SO, UH, JESSE, WOULD YOU MIND, UH, SCROLLING DOWN TO THE NEXT WORKING GROUP PRIORITY SECTION AND, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT TIME BUDGETS NOW. SO, UH, LIKE TO SPEND ABOUT 20 MINUTES, 20, 25 MINUTES, AND IF WE COULD HEAR MAYBE TWENTY-FIVE OKAY. LET'S SAY A LITTLE BIT LEFT, BUT THE BATTLE HANDED OVER TO THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE INNOVATION WORK GROUP. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST OF ITEMS HERE AND THE FIRST ONE THAT WE SEE THE SUGGESTION OF, RIGHT. PARTNERSHIPS AND ORGANIZATION WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, NON-TECH COMPANIES FREE WIFI SPOTS, CHARGING STATIONS. SO LIKE I SAID, IT'S LIKE, UH, LIKE WE PRESSURED ASK YOU IF IT WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, UM, WITH, UH, WHAT WE HEARD WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT THAT SEEMS TO FIT RIGHT. IN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE KIOSK THAT ALL SEEMS TO ROLL IN. UM, UM, NO, I THINK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ITEM TWO, UH, GOOGLE DEPLOYMENT HERE IN AUSTIN. WE'VE BEEN MONITORING THAT FOR QUITE A WHILE, QUITE A WHILE AND SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO SO, UM, UH, GATTON, SAME THING, UH, UH, UH, UH, THEY SHOULD ASK YOU TO THEM. I WOULD, WHAT DO YOU THINK? YEAH, WELL, REPEAT THE QUESTION. WHAT WAS IT KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE LIST OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE AND IS MOST OF THIS STUFF IS STUFF WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR, OH YEAH. THIS IS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. IT'S ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS. I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE ARE DOING. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL STUFF BASED ON KNOWLEDGE THAT WE GAINED OVER THE LAST YEAR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SLIGHT MODIFICATION TO ONE OF THE ITEMS, PLEASE. OKAY. THAT IS NUMBER NINE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPGRADES TO CITY FIBER TECHNOLOGY. SO IN A LOT OF CASES, UM, THIS WOULD MEAN CTL AND GAP, BUT ACTUALLY THERE'S A NUMBER OF, UH, CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT FIBER NETWORKS THAT WE SHOULD BE MONITORING THEM FOR SOME KIND OF SHARING ABILITY, UM, COOPERATION BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS. SO HOW CAN [01:35:01] WE EXPAND NUMBER NINE TO SAY, UM, MONITOR THE UPGRADES TO ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS, FIBER TECHNOLOGIES AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MAY I ALSO ADD TO THAT? THAT'S A VERY, VERY, THAT'S A, THAT'S A RICH LINE OF THINKING RIGHT THERE IN MY MIND THERE. WELL, I'M GOING TO KEEP BRINGING UP MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE CENSUS AND AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH AND HOW THEY DIDN'T EVEN INVOLVE CTF WENT OFF FROM THERE OR HIRED A VENDOR AND CREATED A SOLUTION THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY A DISASTER IN THE BEGINNING. I THINK WE NEED TO ALSO UNDERSTAND ALL THOSE PTM AND ALL THE INDEPENDENT ID ORGANIZATION, DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, AND THE ENDED, THE VERTICAL, YOU KNOW, COLUMNS IN THE CITY. THERE ARE MULTIPLE IT DEPARTMENTS. THERE IS NO ECONOMIES OF SCALE. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT CTM WOULD PROVIDE THE BUSINESS LAYER AND EACH POWER WILL HAVE THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION, BUT ON TOP OF THAT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S A, THESE ARE LIKE INDEPENDENT ORGANIZATIONS. SO HOW CAN THE CTC THIS WORKING GROUP AND THE COMMISSION ENABLE ECONOMIES OF SCALE. THIS IS A VERY GOOD POINT. AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY AT ONE POINT HAD AN IT GOVERNANCE COUNCIL WHEREBY ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WERE SUPPOSED TO BRING THEIR BIG IT PROJECTS TO THIS TO SAY, WELL, YEAH, YOU CAN DO IT OR NO BIGGIE CTM, OR TAKE THAT UP. AND SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TOPIC FOR A PRESENTATION FROM CTM OR EVEN BETTER YET THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WHO IS IN CHARGE OF CTM AND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO SAY, WHAT ABOUT IT, GOVERNANCE? YEAH. WHEN DID THAT STOP? I'M NOT SURE IT DID STOP. I DON'T KNOW THIS CURRENT STATUS. THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF PRESENTATION PROBABLY FROM SOMEONE HIGHER THAN CTM. SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING CTL ON THE SPOT. WE'RE ASKING THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. WELL, WHAT ABOUT GOVERNANCE BETWEEN IT PROJECTS BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS? WELL, TO ADD SOME INSIGHTS THERE, THE LAST TIME I BROKE THE SUBJECT OF GOVERNANCE WAS HEARD ANYTHING IN RESPONSE TO A BROACH. THE SUBJECT OF GOVERNANCE WAS AFTER I'D MET WITH STEVEN ELKINS AND HE HAD JUST HIRED THE CTO. UH, AND I MET THE CTO, BUT UNFORTUNATELY AFTER THAT MEETING, UH, AND REACHING OUT TO THE CTO, UH, I HEARD CRICKETS. AND THEN SHORTLY AFTER THAT, UM, C BELKINS RESIGNED AND WE WERE IN THE MIDST OF THE KNOWLEDGE GAPS THAT WE HAVE FROM CTM. SO I THINK THAT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ENGAGE CTM AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL, UH, ABOUT THIS. UH, AND THEN BASED UPON HOW THAT CONVERSATION GOES, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENTERTAINED, ENGAGING, UH, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UH, FOR A PRESENTATION, BUT WHAT HOPEFULLY WILL HAPPEN IS A PRESENTATION BY CTM, UH, AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL TO THEN SPEAK TO A LOT OF THESE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. I AGREE. I AGREE WITH THAT. IN FACT, THERE'S A NEW SENIOR DIRECTOR OF CTM, RIGHT? THEY JUST BROUGHT IN A NEW DIRECTOR. SO THIS WOULD BE A GOOD WAY FOR US TO MEET HIM AND START A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. WE HAD A GOOD ONE, A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH STEVE ELKINS, AND WE'D LIKE TO CARRY ON THE TRADITION. SO THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE. AND IN FAIRNESS, WE HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIS STEWART AS WELL. UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH AN INFORMATION GAP AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHY. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I THINK, UH, I'M ASSUMING THE BEST, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE NEED SOME ANSWERS, UM, AND THE MIDST OF WHAT THEY'VE BEEN MANAGING OVER THERE. WELL, IN FAIRNESS, FAIRNESS TO CGM, UM, THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT IS REALLY ABOVE THEM BECAUSE, UH, ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENTS HAVE GOT THEIR OWN MONEY AND THEY JUST GO OUT AND SPEND IT. AND [01:40:01] THEN LATER ON DUMP A HALF FINISHED PRODUCT ONTO CGM FOR MANAGEMENT. UM, SO, UM, AT SOME POINT I THINK WE'VE GOT TO ENGAGE SOMEONE HIGHER THAN JUST CPM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO STOP DEPARTMENTS QUITE OFTEN FROM GOING OUT AND GETTING THEIR OWN TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS. YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT THAT IS REALLY A TOP DOWN DECISION. UH, AND IT ACTUALLY DIDN'T LAND US UP IN THE CITY MANAGER IS NOT, IF THIS IS A KNOW ORGANIZATIONAL ARCHITECTURE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND IT'S AN ORGANIZATIONAL DECISION. AT WHAT POINT DO YOU ALLOW CTM TO PROVIDE THE BASE LAYER IN AWARE WHERE I GUESS THE STARTING IN AND GRANT DOES THE CUSTOMIZED SOLUTION? SO THESE ARE TWO QUESTIONS THAT ULTIMATELY IS NOT GOING TO BE SOLVED BY AN ASSISTANT MAN. I THINK IT'S REALLY A DECISION, RIGHT? IF WE CAN GET THE CITY MANAGERS AND TALK TO US. YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE SHOOT FOR THEM. UH, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT ADVERSE TO HAVING JESSIE REACH OUT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND SEEING IF THEY CAN ENGAGE US AT THE WORKING LEVEL, UH, ABOUT THIS, THIS TOPIC. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, WE ALSO OWE IT AS A COURTESY TO ANY NEW LEADER, UH, UH, CTM, YOU KNOW, ENGAGEMENT AT THAT LEVEL AS WELL. UM, BUT I, I THINK THAT, UH, I'M NOT ADVERSE TO THAT PERSONALLY. I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UH, UH, MAKING SURE WE HAVE OUR, OUR DUCKS IN A ROW. YEAH. I AGREE. YOU CAN HANDLE THIS DIPLOMATICALLY. I THINK IT'S GOOD TO START WITH THE CTL, YOU KNOW, DIRECTOR OF THE NEW AGREEMENT. I HAVE TO JUMP A FEW, FEW LEVELS UP TO THE CITY MANAGER AND WHO KNOWS. IT MAY BE A DECISION THAT THE DISCUSSION WITH THE COMMISSION LEVEL THAT ULTIMATELY DRILLS DOWN TO THE WORK WELL, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO BENEFIT FROM NOW BECAUSE WE, WE DO, UH, IN THIS FORUM, UH, I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO JUST HAVE ANOTHER WORKING GROUP MEETING HERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO GIVE, UH, EVERYONE ELSE AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL OF CHANCE TO WEIGH ON THIS TOPIC. UM, IF I COULD GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM OUR OTHER COMMISSIONERS, NOT THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN THIS WORKING GROUP, UH, YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT SOUNDS GOOD. UM, IF ANYONE HASN'T TAUGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, THOMPSON BEAVERS, OR COMMISSIONER, UH, SEVERSKY OR EFFICIENT ISLAND, FISH AND DACA, AND NO THOUGHTS IS FINE TOO, AND THAT'S NOT TRUE. YEAH. THIS IS COMMISSIONER DACA. I MEAN, I, I, I LIKE WHAT, WHEN I HEARD ABOUT REACHING OUT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UM, AS WELL AS CTN, UM, MAYBE IT'S A DEEPER DISCUSSION WITHIN THE WORKING GROUP OF WHETHER IT'S PARALLEL PATH REACH OUT TO THEM BOTH, OR ONE OF THAT, ANOTHER, YEAH, SAME REACHING OUT THE NEXT DAY MANAGER MAKES SENSE HERE. WELL, I THINK HE GOT THAT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE W COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, BEAVERS FISHER ISLAND, YOU GUYS WANT TO WIN, OR YOU TWO LADIES WON'T PAY ON THAT. YEP. I AGREE. I CONCUR. OKAY. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE SOME CONSENSUS NOW. UH CO-CHAIRS IF THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO GO. SO I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH, UH, THE, THE APPROACH, I GUESS IF IT'S OKAY, THEN I'LL, UH, REACH OUT TO, UH, JESSE, IF YOU BECOME THAT, REACH OUT TO THE CITY MANAGER, UH, OFF CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND TO SEE IF THEY CAN ENGAGE WITH US AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL ABOUT THIS TOPIC OF GOVERNANCE TECHNOLOGY GOVERNANCE, AND THEN I'LL REACH OUT TO CTM THE NEW, UH, DIRECTOR, UH, AND ENGAGE THERE. SURE. PITCH. YES, THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. UH, I, UM, I THINK WE CAN WORK OUT THE SPECIFIC STRATEGY, YOU KNOW, OFFLINE AS WELL. UM, I [01:45:01] ALSO KNOW THAT THERE IS AN ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OVER GOVERNMENT THAT WORKS, AND SO SUCH AN ITEM MIGHT BE DELEGATED TO THAT ACM, BUT, UM, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU AND RUN DELLA AND, UH, JOHN SPEARS AS WELL TO, UH, MOVE AHEAD THIS, UH, COMMUNICATION. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD. DOES THAT SOUND GOOD TO Y'ALL CO-CHAIRS UH, I'LL COORDINATE WITH JESSE AND MENDELA ON THE, ON THE APPROPRIATE CONTENT AND GO FROM THERE. SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. COOL. GROOVY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS WANT IT TO HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS WORKING GROUP AT THE WORK GROUP LEVEL. UH, BUT I'LL LET YOU GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT OUT WHENEVER Y'ALL ARE READY. THIS IS COMMISSIONER DOUG. I DID HAVE A QUESTION AND SORRY TO GO BACK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER TWO THERE. UM, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS PUT OUT BY COMMISSIONER NEEDS TO IN COMMISSIONER AND CHAIR PITS. UM, I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD, ONE OF, YOU COULD JUST EXPAND ON THE MONITORING OF GOOGLE DEPLOYMENT. OKAY. I COULD SPEAK TO THAT IF YOU WANT. UM, OKAY. SO GOOGLE CAME INTO TOWN AND THE, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DEPLOY, UH, HIGH-SPEED INTERNET ALL OVER TOWN AND THEIR PROGRESS SEEMS TO HAVE FALTERED SOMEWHAT. AND SO WE NEED TO CONTINUALLY MONITOR THEM TO SAY, WELL, UM, THE CITY DID MAKE A NUMBER OF CONCESSIONS TO THEM IN TERMS OF, RIGHT OF WAY WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DEPLOY ALL OVER TOWN. AND SO WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THEY IN THEIR PROGRESS AND WHAT BARRIERS NEED TO BE REMOVED FOR CONTINUED DEPLOYMENT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, COMMISSURE YOU'D SAID, I KNOW I CAN SPEAK PERSONALLY THAT THEY HAVE YET TO COME TO MY PART OF TOWN. UM, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THEM FOR, FOR QUITE A WHILE. UM, ARE THERE ANY SORT OF READOUTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, UM, THAT COME OUT AS PART OF THAT EFFORT? JUST CURIOUS. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THAT MOST CARERS HAVE VERY CLOSE WITH ALL OF THEIR INNOVATION. WE'VE RUN UP AGAINST THIS BEFORE WITH ALL THE OTHER CHARACTERS ARE CARRIERS. WHEN WE SAY, WHERE ARE YOU IN? WHERE ARE YOU PLANNING ON BEING? AND THEY SAY THAT'S PROPRIETARY BUSINESS INFORMATION. YEAH. YEAH. I AGREE. I THINK WE GOT THE RUN-AROUND LAST TIME WE BROUGHT THEM IN AND THAT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS WHAT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, TWO YEARS AGO. RIGHT. AND TO ADD TO THAT, UH, THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE. UM, THE GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS CONTACT USED TO BE DANIEL WAS LUCIO. AND, UH, HE'S NOW IN A DIFFERENT ROLE. UM, I BELIEVE UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, UH, JESSE HELPED TO KEEP ME OFF IN THE STUFF THAT OUR LAST MEDICATION HE CONFIRMED, UH, THAT IF WE REACHED OUT PERTAINING TO THE EMERGENCY BROADBAND BENEFIT INITIATIVE, AND HE LET US KNOW THAT HE WAS THE LONGER, THE APPROPRIATE CONTACT, BUT HE RECOMMENDED SOMEONE. SO MAYBE WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLLOW UP THERE, JEFFREY. YES. I THINK THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP WITH THAT, THAT COMMUNICATION THREAD. WE DO HAVE A NEW CONTACT AT, UH, GOOGLE FIBER. UM, I CAN'T PULL IT UP IMMEDIATELY, BUT IT IS THAT COMMUNICATION THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING. UH, JOHN MICHAEL CORTEZ, I BELIEVE IS OUR NEW CONTACT WITH GOOGLE FIBER. THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IT WAS THAT REDELA. YES, THAT THIS IS RON. THANK YOU, REBEL. GLAD YOU'RE HERE. I'M LISTENING. I DON'T HAVE THE VIDEO ON, I'M JUST LISTENING. WELL, YOU WERE THE PERFECT, PERFECT PHONE, A PHONE, A DEPARTMENT HEAD, AND SHE JUST COMES IN THE ANSWERS THE QUESTION RIGHT WHEN WE NEED HER. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL, THEN, LIKE YOU SAID, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND FOLLOW THAT, UH, AND PURSUE THAT. UH, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS WANT TO CLOSE OUT WITHIN, AT THIS WORKING GROUP LEVEL. UM, YOU STILL HAVE A FEW MINUTES LEFT IF HE WANTS TO GO OVER ELSE. I THINK, I MEAN, TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE JUST CONTINUING TO DO IT. WE'VE BEEN TALKING WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. YOU KNOW, IF OTHER FOLKS THAT AREN'T IN THE GROUP ARE INTERESTED, UM, [01:50:01] YOU KNOW, UH, YOU'VE GOT 5G AND SMALL CELL DEPLOYMENT, WHICH KIND OF ROLLS INTO SMART CITIES. IT'S ALL ABOUT BASICALLY MAKING A NETWORK OF ENABLING A NETWORK OF SENSORS TO EITHER SOME PARTS, LIKE WORK WITH PEOPLE'S PHONES OR CONNECT WITH THE IDEA OF CONNECTED VEHICLES, BUT ALSO LIKE SMART SENSORS AND BUILDINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, AND THAT ROLLS IN WITH THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT'S PLANS FOR SMART MOBILITY. I MEAN, A LOT OF THIS STUFF KIND OF ROLLS TOGETHER. UM, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I THINK IT'S ALL REALLY INTERESTING IF ANYONE WANTS TO JOIN US, THAT'S PRETTY COOL BY THE WAY, YOU KNOW, THE NEW, NEW, NEW, NEW, UH, VARIABLE IN THIS EQUATION, OF COURSE YOU NOTICE LAST YEAR, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT METRIC, BUT THIS YEAR WE'LL DO. AND BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE THIS MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT, IT'S GOING TO SPAN ACROSS THE ENTIRE SCHEME, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE DIGGING UP ROADS, DIGGING UP THE ROADS, ET CETERA. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MOVE TECHNOLOGY FORWARD. OH, AND THAT THEN JUST PUT IT IN CONTEXT TOO. WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT NUMBER FIVE HERE WITH UPGRADING THE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, LIKE SHARED CONDUITS TO PUT ADDITIONAL FAST FIBER LINES IN AND EVERYTHING. CAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE SMALL CELLS AND EVERYTHING, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO NEED, UM, PART LINES TO GO TO FIBER LINES THAT MAKE THE CONNECTION. SO, UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S ALL JUST ABOUT BASICALLY INCREASING BANDWIDTH AND SPEED AND HAVING LIKE THE SORT OF MESH WIRELESS SENSORS DOWNTOWN THAT ENABLE ALL THIS STUFF TO HAPPEN. VERY EXCITING STUFF. THAT WAS MY RECRUITING PITCH. YEAH. AWESOME. WELL, OKAY. UH, ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THAT COMMISSIONER? YOUR CHAIR? NO, I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS A FULL PLATE, SO, UH, WE DIDN'T LOSE ME. OKAY. WELL WITH THAT, THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND TRANSITION TO THE LAST WORKING GROUP, UH, PRIORITIES THAT YOU HAVE LISTED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO CLARIFY, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO HOW MUCH YOUR WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THIS NEXT SCREEN, BUT NOW I SEE IT, UH, AND IT'S QUITE A BIT. OKAY. SO WHAT I DID WAS FRANKLY, JUST GIVE A BRAIN DUMP OF PRIORITIES, UH, IN RESPONSE TO THE EFFORT, UH, BY JESSE, UH, WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY HOW WE WERE GOING TO START THIS EFFORT, BUT I LIKE HOW WE'VE DONE IT. UM, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS AS WAS DESCRIBED BY THE LAST WORKING GROUP, CO-CHAIRS TO CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, THAT'S BEEN WORKING AND TO EXPAND, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT ARE WORKING WELL, UH, AND, UH, DELVE INTO AREAS WHERE WE CAN ACHIEVE MULTIPLICATION OR, UH, A, SOME, SOME TYPE OF COMPOUNDING EFFECT OF OUR, OF OUR WORK, UH, THROUGH COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIPS. SO LOOKING AT THIS AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO CONTRIBUTED, UH, TO AREAS THAT ARE TOPICAL FOR THIS WORKING GROUP. AND, UH, THAT INCLUDES COMMISSIONER ISLAND, KESHAVA DACA, UH, COMMISSIONER GATES, UM, LOOKING AT THE LIST HERE, I'D LIKE TO JUST GO DOWN IN THE ORDER, UH, AS WE'VE BEEN DOING, UH, THAT SEEMS TO WORK PRETTY WELL. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THINGS UP JUST A LITTLE BIT, UM, AND GIVE OUR TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS, A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO THEIR OWN, UH, PRIORITIES THEY'VE LISTED, UH, COMMISSIONER ISLAND. HE COULD GO AHEAD AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE FIRST PRIORITY. UH, THANK YOU. UM, SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PROPOSE WITH THIS ONE IS THERE'S A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED OVER THE PAST, YOU KNOW, YEAR, MAYBE YEAR AND A HALF, UM, MAYBE LOST JOBS, MAYBE YOUR ON, OUT ON THE STREETS. SO LOOKING AT WAYS TO GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION OF WHAT'S OUT THERE FOR THEM, HOW DO WE JOB MATCH POTENTIALLY, UM, ESPECIALLY AS THE CITY IS STARTING TO RAMP BACK UP AGAIN, UM, HOW DO WE CONNECT THEM WITH THE RIGHT PROGRAMS THAT ARE OUT THERE, UM, AND MAKE THEM SURE THAT THEY'RE JUST, UM, AWARE AND AVAILABLE. AND IT KIND OF TIES WITH A COUPLE OF THE OTHER INITIATIVES. I THINK THAT WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF DISCUSSED BEFORE, UM, BUT WANTED TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT SPECIFIC NEWSPACE SPACE OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION, BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM RIGHT NOW. UM, AND IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A WAY TO GET SOME OF THEM ASSISTANCE. THANK YOU, MICHELLE. AND, UH, I AGREE. THAT'S, I THINK IT'S A GREAT CALL-OUT AND IT IS [01:55:01] ALSO SOMETHING WAS, I THINK THAT IS WELL SERVED BY, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER IDENTIFIED PRIORITIES BELOW, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO G TOPS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND UNDER G TOPS, COMMUNITY NEEDS, ASSESSMENT AND OR RESOURCE MAPPING, UM, ADDED DISCUSSION, UH, AS PART OF OUR WORKING GROUP CALL FOR DIGITAL INCLUSION WORKING GROUP, WHERE, UH, I GOT WELL ACTUALLY DEPARTMENT, UH, JUST IN A CONFERENCE CALL WITH RHONDELLA YESTERDAY. UM, UH, SHE CONFIRMED HER THOUGHTS AND SUPPORT OF AN EFFORT THAT WE COULD UNDERTAKE TO EXPAND G TOPS AND ALSO TO THEM LOOK AT SOME TYPE OF WAY TO MAP RESOURCES. SO I THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO COMMISSIONER APODACA FOR THE ITEM THAT YOU PRIORITIZED FOR TO YEP. THANK YOU, CHAIR BEDS. UM, SO I THINK THE INTENT HERE AND I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO FEEDBACK WAS TO, UM, BE, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO BE PROACTIVE IN DEVELOPING RELATIONSHIPS WITH SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES THAT HAVE A LARGE FOOTPRINT HERE IN AUSTIN, UM, WITH THE GOAL OF NOT ONLY EXPANDING ACCESS, BUT LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO, UM, TO UP-SKILL AND PROVIDE EDUCATION, UM, PARTICULARLY FOR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE READINESS, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE COMPANIES WITH LARGE FOOTPRINTS COULD, I THINK BE PARTICULARLY HELPFUL. AND, UM, NOT ONLY I DIDN'T FIND SOME OF THOSE SKILLS THAT ARE, THAT ARE NECESSARY, BUT REALLY HELPING TO EXECUTE ON IT AS WELL. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S DEFINITELY IN LINE WITH OUR GOALS, THE WORKING GROUP AND OUR GOALS AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL. UM, WE, I THINK ARE GOING TO SEE MORE AND MORE OF THOSE DELIBERATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RELATIONSHIPS AND PARTNERSHIPS, UH, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE THROUGH P YOU KNOW, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, SPECIFIC ENGAGEMENTS AROUND SPECIFIC PROJECTS, LIKE MICRO MOBILITY, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AN EXAMPLE, UH, THAT WAS USED WITH, UH, LYFT AND, AND HACA, UH, AND THE COMMISSION PLAYED A ROLE THERE, OR, UH, IF IT'S, UH, MORE, UH, HANDS OFF, BUT YET, UH, URGED BY OUR LEADERSHIP WITH, UH, EQUITABLE BROADBAND AND GIVING THEM A CHANCE TO COME AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY AND A WAY TO EXPAND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. BUT IT'S A FOCUS ON SKILLS, UH, AND, AND ACTUAL TRAINING, BECAUSE THIS IS ALSO DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND WITH DETOX BECAUSE, UH, RESOURCE MAPPING AROUND DETOX IS GOING TO SERVE EITHER DEVICE ACCESS, INTERNET ACCESS, OR UPSKILLING AND EDUCATION, YOU KNOW, TRAINING AROUND, UH, TECHNOLOGY. UM, BUT TO YOUR POINT, UH, THAT COULD ALSO BE DIRECTLY WORKFORCE ENABLEMENT, UH, FOCUSED. RIGHT? SO, UH, I LOVE THAT AND I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT'S IMPLEMENTED AND INTEGRATED WITH THIS PLAN. UM, TRANSITIONING FROM THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT AGAIN, TO NUMBER THREE, UH, I, I FEEL LIKE I CAN SPEAK VERY CONFIDENTLY FOR COMMISSIONING GATES ABOUT, UH, HOW IMPORTANT REMOTE DISSIPATION IS, UM, TO THIS BODY AND, AND, AND HOW WE'RE ANALYZING THAT AND THE ROLE THAT CAN PLAY FOR INCLUSION, UH, BUT ALSO FOR ENGAGEMENT, UH, WHETHER IT'S COMMISSIONERS, UH, OR CITY BUSINESS IN GENERAL, JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE OF THINGS. SO THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD, UM, BECAUSE SHE HAS ALSO BEEN A SOUND ADVOCATE FOR, UH, LEVERAGING LICENSING FOR ZOOM LICENSES, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, BY LIBRARY SPECIFIC GROUPS LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL. UM, THIS IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WHICH IS INTERSECTIONAL WITH THE OTHER WORKING GROUPS, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, LIKEWISE, WITH, UH, NUMBER FIVE, UH, THE CONTINUED ADVOCACY FOR INCREASE IN FUNDING, UH, FOR WIRELESS HUB AND LENDING PROGRAMS AS FAVORED ALSO BY, UH, BY CHERYL XANDER AND THEN TO G TOPS, UH, WHICH AS I SUGGESTED EARLIER, UM, I'M PLEASED TO SEE, UH, SUPPORT FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS AS WELL FOR EXPANDING THAT, UH, BECAUSE WE, WE MAKE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT THROUGH G TOPS, PARTICULARLY WITH THIS MATCHING FUNDS COMPONENT, BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN REQUIRES OTHER STEP UP AS WELL. AND IT'S WONDERFUL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THAT. SO DEFINITELY LOOKING [02:00:01] FORWARD TO THAT TYPE OF EXPANSION, INCLUDING, UH, ONTO B UH, WAYS TO REALLY FOCUS THE EFFORT, UM, OF G TOPS ON SPECIFIC NEEDS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UH, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, UH, THE RESIDENTS TECHNOLOGY STUDY. UM, AND HAVEN'T BEEN PART OF A CALL, UH, RECENTLY DISCUSSING, SPINNING UP A QUALITATIVE COMPONENT TO THAT STUDY TO JOIN THE QUANTITATIVE ONE. UM, AND WHAT THAT IS GOING TO DO IS ENABLE US TO FIND A WAY TO CATALOG AND TO LEVERAGE THOSE LIVED EXPERIENCES FROM PEOPLE, AND THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HELP TO DIRECTLY INFORM NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND SO WHAT I ENVISION AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST IS US BEING ABLE TO LEVERAGE THESE INSIGHTS TO THEN TAILOR G TOPS. UH, THE, WHAT I ENVISIONED IS HOPEFULLY THIS NEXT YEAR, INCLUDING A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION TO INCREASE THESE SHOPS Z TOP BY ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR SO. UM, AND THEN TO ALSO ENABLE THAT DIRECT RESOURCE MAPPING, UH, THROUGH SOME, UH, UNDETERMINED, BUT ALREADY, UH, IMAGINED EFFORT AROUND AGGREGATING THOSE LIVED EXPERIENCES, BUT ONE THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO REALLY PILOT OR WORK ON IN TERMS OF SPEAK UP AMERICA AND, AND, AND LEVERAGING THAT PLATFORM, UH, BLESS YOU IF THAT WAS AN ORDER. UH, SO THAT'S EXCITING OF COURSE, UH, NUMBER SEVEN, THE EMERGENCY BROADBAND RELIEF CARRY EVALUATION, UH, AS, AS THE MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, YOU KNOW, WE REACHED OUT TO, UH, THE PRIOR MEETINGS RATHER, BUT ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WE REACHED OUT TO ALL THE CARRIERS, UH, TO CONFIRM WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND, UH, THAT INCLUDES MOST RECENTLY, UH, EVEN, UH, SPECTRUM AND BEING ENGAGED YESTERDAY OR TODAY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, UH, HOPING TO GET SOME INSIGHT AHEAD OF THIS MEETING. SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, UH, STATE LEGISLATIVE, UH, TECH INTEL'S INDICATIONS, POLICY EVALUATION, UH, WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE, UH, OF A NEED FOR THAT WITH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, UH, WITH THE FUNDING, FROM THE CARES ACT WITH, UH, THE, THE BURSARY BROADBAND BENEFIT. THERE'S A REALLY AN IMPORTANT NEED FOR, FOR US TO BE AWARE AND UPDATED ON ALL THE THINGS GOING ON, UH, TO IMPACT POLICY. AND, UH, THE PROGRAM MANAGER, JOHN SPEARS HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL AT KEEPING US ABREAST OF THAT. AND OF COURSE THE, THE PERIOD DIRECTOR, UH RHONDELLA AS WELL. SO BETWEEN, BETWEEN, UH, THOSE RESOURCES, UH, BEING TRIED AND TRUE AND US IN OUR CURIOSITY, UH, WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB OF ENABLING CITY COUNCILS TO KNOW, UH, HOW THOSE THINGS IMPACT US AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UH, WITH NUMBER NINE, YOU KNOW, SMART MOBILITY AND PROJECT CONNECT, AS WE'VE JUST DISCUSSED EARLIER, UH, THAT RELATES TO, AGAIN, THIS MASSIVE BOND EFFORT AND, UH, THE, THE MASSIVE RESOURCE AND FUSION, UH, THAT'S TAKEN PLACE AROUND MOBILITY AND TECHNOLOGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY, AND, YOU KNOW, LEVERAGING THESE OPPORTUNITIES. NOW, ONE THING THAT, UM, WAS NOT SPOKEN TO EARLIER, THAT'S REFERENCED HERE, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SPAN OUT ON AND THAT'S, UH, SEE WHERE IT SAYS CIS ABOVE, UH, JESSE, WOULD YOU MIND DOUBLING BACK TO, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS. WHAT I ASKED STANDS FOR IS THE, UH, INNOVATION AUSTIN SERVICES TEAM. AND WHAT THAT SPEAKS TO IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS A SERVICE, UH, EFFORT THAT IS TAKING PLACE BETWEEN, UH, CITY LEADERSHIP, UH, ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENTS OF AUSTIN ENERGY CAP, METRO, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICES, DEPARTMENTS, FIRE POLICE, EMS, AND OUR ARMED SERVICES CONTINGENCIES HERE, UH, FROM CAN'T, UH, AROUND, UH, TIME ON THE VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND BASICALLY WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WORKING GROUP PLAYS A ROLE, UH, AS WE WERE ENGAGED, UH, AT THE CHAIR LEVEL TO PROVIDE [02:05:01] OVERSIGHT, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR VOICE IS HEARD AT THE TABLE, UH, OF DIGITAL INCLUSION AND MAKING SURE THAT, UH, PEOPLE AREN'T LEFT BEHIND AND THAT THE FORESEEABLE AND, AND ASSUMED TO BE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, UH, OF INEQUITABLE, UH, ROLL-OUTS OR A WIDENING GAP OF VISIBLE SERVICE DELIVERY. UH, DON'T TAKE PLACE BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE VOICES TO REMIND PEOPLE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO THE FACT THAT THESE THINGS UPFRONT, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZE THE ROLE THAT WE PLAY AND DEVELOPING PUBLIC TRUST, UH, BEHIND SOME OF OUR PREVIOUS EFFORTS AT CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT AND DOCUMENTING, UH, LIVED EXPERIENCES. SO I, I THINK WE'RE REALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO PLAY A ROLE AT THAT TABLE. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING THING, UH, AS WELL FOR THIS WORKING GROUP. AND THAT'S A GOOD TRANSITION TO NUMBER 10, UH, WITH, UH, COLLABORATIONS THAT WE CAN GET ENGAGEMENT AND LIVE EXPERIENCE SHARING TECHNOLOGY. WELL, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EFFECTIVELY HOLD ONE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING DEDICATED TO THIS TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT. UH, MY ASPIRATION WOULD BE TO DO TWO NEXT YEAR, AT LEAST. UM, I THINK IT'S KIND OF THING. IF WE GET THE CADENCE DOWN OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS OF APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS AND APPROPRIATE, UH, POLICY MAKERS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, UH, ONCE A YEAR, AND THEN POTENTIALLY NOW NEXT YEAR. SO WE'VE DONE ONE, UH, DOING TWO, UM, AND THEN THERE'S SOME DIRECT SYNERGY WITH, UM, THE B UH, STATEMENT FAIR WITH COMMISSIONER ISLAND, UH, THOUGHT ON. AND THIS IS PROBABLY A CROSS APPLICABLE TO THE KIDS INFORMATION, UH, RATHER THAN KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION, DATA STEWARDSHIP, UH, WORKING GROUP UNDER CIVIC PARTICIPATION AND VIDEO CONFERENCING FROM PUBLIC FACILITIES, BECAUSE THERE, WE MAY NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE A, A VIDEO COMPONENT. UM, IF SAID KIOSK OR DIGITAL SCREEN TECHNOLOGY IS ONE THAT PERHAPS ALLOWS PEOPLE TO DO IT MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN ASK THE KIOSK AT CITY HALL RIGHT NOW THEY CAN GO SIGN UP TO BE A SPEAKER. WELL, WOULD IT BE NICE IF IN ADDITION TO, UM, HAVING THE FUNCTIONALITY TO UNDERSTAND RESOURCES AND OTHER THINGS AS MISSION ISLAND MENTIONED, THEY COULD ALSO SIGN UP TO BE A SPEAKER DURING ANY, YOU KNOW, CITY HALL MEETING AT ONE OF THESE KIOSKS, BUT AROUND TOWN AND NOT HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO TO CITY HALL TO SIGN UP, YOU KNOW, JUST DIFFERENT IDEAS FOR THAT. I COULD SEE US HELPING TO EXPAND THAT EFFORT. AND THEN LASTLY, WE'RE DO PRETTY GOOD ON TIME. SO LASTLY, HERE, UH, ZIKA EXPANSION, UH, AND THAT'S REALLY IDENTIFYING THE, THE KEY ROLE THAT DECA PLAYS, THE GLUE, LIKE ROLE THEY PLAY IN INFORMING THE DIGITAL INCLUSION ECOSYSTEM HERE ABOUT, UH, DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON, POLICY RELATED, AS WELL AS, UH, YOU KNOW, BEST PRACTICE AND ORGANIZATIONAL, UH, RESOURCE RELATED. UH, SO THAT OF COURSE INCLUDES HELPING TO IDENTIFY SOURCES OF FUNDING AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. SO THAT DOVETAILS BACK TO GETTING CARES INVOLVED AS WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK AN OPTIMAL SCENARIO IS ONE WHERE CARRIERS ARE INVOLVED TO, IN RESPONSE TO OUR DATA REPORTS AND COLLECTIVE INSIGHTS ABOUT NECESSARY CHANGE WHILE ALSO BEING INVOLVED, PERHAPS IN HELPING TO RESOURCE AND GAP FILL, UH, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UH, AND, AND, AND PARTNERING, UH, CLEARLY WE NEED TO AVOID CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND WE WILL, UH, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THOUGH THAT THERE ISN'T AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM ALL, UH, TO CONTRIBUTE, UH, WHICH WOULD SHOW NO CONFLICT IF THEY'RE ALL CONTRIBUTING. SO THOSE ARE MY LAST THOUGHTS. UM, AS, AS WORKING GROUP CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP, UH, TO THE OTHER WORKING GROUP MEMBERS TO PROVIDE YOUR THOUGHTS, UH, ON THESE ITEMS AND ANYTHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADD OR ANY FEEDBACK YOU WANT TO CHEER, AND THEN TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION. AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE, I BELIEVE THAT'S COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, BEAVERS, UH, COMMISSIONER APODACA, UH, MYSELF. UM, I DON'T HAVE THE FULL LIST. UM, BUT I KNOW A WORKING GROUP INCLUDES THOSE TWO OTHER [02:10:01] MEMBERS. I BELIEVE THAT, YEAH, I'M DRAWING A BLANK ON THE OTHER OTHERS, UM, SHARE PITS. I THINK THAT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD LIST, UM, WHERE IT ALLOWS THIS PARTICULAR WORKING GROUP TO CONTINUE TO BE FOCUSED ON INITIATIVES THAT HAVE STARTED, BUT TO, UM, TAKE THEM TO ANOTHER LEVEL. UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S CLOSE TO MY HEART IS DETOX. AND SO I'M REALLY, UM, EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA THAT GEE TOPS IS CONTINUING TO, TO DO THE THINGS THAT IT WAS INTENDED TO DO, BUT THAT, UM, THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH, UM, WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A GOOD WAY OF GETTING, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY JUST GOOD PROGRAMMING TO BE DISTILLED OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, UM, AT DIFFERENT LEVELS AND TO HIT, YOU KNOW, SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. AND SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD LIST. I THINK THAT IT'S FOCUSED AND, UM, I THINK THAT IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR THIS, FOR THIS GROUP TO MAKE SOME REALLY GOOD IMPACT. THANK YOU FOR THAT MISSIONARY. I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND, AND ENCOURAGEMENT. UH, DEFINITELY LOOKING TO HAVE AN IMPACT HERE. DID YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT COMMISSIONER APODACA? I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NEW TO THE WORKING GROUP, BUT TO APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I'M I'M, I WOULD SAY I'M, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE EVEN, EVEN A BIT EXCITED, UH, ABOUT THE, UH, THE SCOPE OF, UH, INITIATIVES AND THAT, UH, WE'LL HAVE OVER WITH NEXT YEAR. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK. WELL, WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION. UH, CERTAINLY, UH, RECOGNIZE THAT OUR WORKING GROUP HAS GOTTEN SMALLER. UH, BUT WE DO HAVE ROOM FOR TWO MORE. UM, AND WOULD WELCOME ANY OTHER FEEDBACK OR THOUGHTS THAT THIS WORKING GROUP SHOULD FOCUS ON? UH, YES. COMMISSIONER ISLANDS. YOU CAN ADD ME TO THE WORKING GROUP FOR THIS. WONDERFUL, THANK YOU. GLAD TO HAVE YOU ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR FEEDBACK? OKAY. WELL THAT GIVES US A, A SOLID FOUR MEMBER WORKING GROUP HERE. UH, APPRECIATE THAT. UH, IF YOU COULD MAKE SURE THAT OUR RECORDS REFLECT THAT JESSE. AND, UH, WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAVE THE WORKING GROUP PRIORITIES, UH, IDENTIFIED. CERTAINLY I HAVE A COMMENT. YEAH. I HAVE A COMMENT. I DIDN'T REALIZE I WAS MUTED. I WAS TALKING, I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU COULD HEAR ME. SO, UH, I WONDER WHETHER THIS WORKING GROUP OR ONE OF THE OTHER TOOLS OR SOME COMBINATION THEREOF SHOULD HAVE, UH, AN ADVOCACY ROLE FOR ROBUST SERVICES TO THE LEAD DURING PANDEMICS AND CATACLYSMIC EVENTS. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD THE MAJOR STORM, CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY SUFFERED MORE THAN OTHERS IN THE MIX OF THE PANDEMIC, CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY ARE SUFFERING MORE THAN OTHERS. SO WHAT ADVOCACY ROLE CAN WE PLAY? WHAT OR OVERSIGHT ROLE CAN BE PAID TO MAKE SURE THE CITY PROVIDES MINIMUM SURVIVAL SERVICES? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK, UM, WHAT I PROPOSE WE DO IS DISCUSS THAT QUESTION IN RELATION TO THE, UH, THE OVERALL COMMISSION PRIORITIES, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT TYPE OF QUESTION SPEAKS TO AN OVERALL TECHNOLOGY CHALLENGE. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT, IT OBVIOUSLY ALSO SPEAKS TO AN OVERALL, UH, TELECOMMUNICATIONS CHALLENGE, UM, BECAUSE I'M TALKING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND COMMUNITY TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOMMUNICATION. SO IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, UH, WHY DON'T WE TRANSITION TO EVALUATING THE, THE OVERALL QUESTIONS, CHALLENGED THE QUESTIONS, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION, AND THEN START TO PONTIFICATE ON THAT. JUST THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO, AS YOU SEE HERE, WE HAVE A LIST OF OVERALL COMMISSION QUESTIONS. NOW THIS, UH, TO BE CLEAR, UH, COMMISSIONER DASGUPTA, I BELIEVE, UH, I BELIEVE, UH, [02:15:01] TOOK THE LIBERTY OF ADDRESSING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, UH, HIS, HIS, THE OFFERING SOME FEEDBACK, OR RATHER SOME, UH, EDITS TO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AS PART OF HIS, UH, SUBMISSION FOR THE COMMISSION. RIGHT. SO UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, JESSE, THIS OVERALL COMMISSION, UH, LIST INCLUDES PART OF COMMISSIONER DUFF'S COUPA'S EDITS. YES. TIRPITZ THIS LIST INCLUDES ALL EDITS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER DESCRIPTOR. OKAY. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR, FOR, FOR THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER SCOOPED UP, UM, LOOKING AT THIS LIST HERE, I'D LIKE FOR EVERYONE TO JUST KIND OF READ OVER THESE QUESTIONS AND THEN ASK YOURSELF IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE PRESSED AND WE WANT TO ADD TO THEM. I THINK WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY CLEARLY TO ADD SOMETHING PERTAINING TO, UM, EMERGENCY SERVICE DELIVERY, UH, AND TO ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS AND, OR, UH, AT THE VERY LEAST TO MAKE IT A GOAL, UH, TO BOLSTER RESILIENCY, UM, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE HAVING, YOU KNOW, UH, OPERATION MECHANISMS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE MIDST OF, UH, POWER OUTAGES. AND WHAT HAVE YOU, I THINK THAT'S AN ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. THERE ARE ONLY SEVEN. NO I'M SAYING THERE ARE SEVEN NOW, BUT I THINK WHAT I ASKED FOR MIGHT MAKE IT ANOTHER EIGHT HUB. IT'S PROPOSING ADDING AN ITEM, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT EITHER. I'M LOOKING AT THEM OVER. OKAY. I DO KNOW, UM, EXCUSE ME, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AND AS I'M LOOKING AT QUESTION NUMBER SIX, I WONDER, WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I GUESS I DEFINITELY WANT TO, TO MAKE CLEAR, UM, THE PLAN THAT WE'RE CREATING THAT INCLUDES THESE OVERALL CONDITION QUESTIONS, UH, IS ONE THAT, UH, I WILL SIGN OFF ON AND ULTIMATELY SUBMIT TO THE CITY AS OUR WORK PLAN. I'M VERY, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO GATHER CONSENSUS AS YOU, AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL AND THE, HOW OPERATE THESE MEETINGS AND HOW I GATHER THESE INSIGHTS. UH, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT REQUIRED OF ME, I HAVEN'T BEEN ELECTED CHAIR AS LONG AS I'M REPRESENTING THE COMMISSION IN MY BEST AND YOUR BEST INTEREST AND IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST, UH, AND GOOD FAITH, WHICH I DO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M VERY GUARDED AGAINST IS SETTING US UP TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE NOT MEANT TO ANSWER AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER. AND WHEN I LOOK AT QUESTION NUMBER SIX, UH, WHICH I THINK DOES INCLUDE SOME OF THE EDITS THAT SHE MADE, UH, COMMISSIONER DASGUPTA, UM, I'M AFRAID. I THINK I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE MAKE SOME EDITS, UH, TO FOCUS ON OUR SCOPE. AND I SAY THAT MAINLY BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR SCOPE OR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE EQUIPMENT OR INNER THE ACCESS TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO. WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO THOUGH, IS TO ADVISE CITY COUNCIL STAFF, THE MAYOR, [02:20:01] UH, AND PARTNERS ON WHAT WE THINK IS BEST. SO AS LONG AS WE CAN PHRASE THESE QUESTIONS, THAT FOCUS ON WHAT WE CAN DO, UH, THEN I'M OKAY WITH IT. AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY HOW I'M GOING TO SUBMIT THE QUESTIONS. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THIS QUESTION, HOW MIGHT THIS COMMISSION WORK WITH THE CITY AND THE CARRIERS TO FACILITATE THAT RESIDENCE AND MARGINALLY SERVE LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS CAN ACQUIRE THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT AND OUR PROVIDES NECESSARY SERVICES AT AFFORDABLE PRICES TO ENSURE THAT ADULTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO JOBS AND EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AS ANY OF THE RESIDENTS. THAT'S EXTREMELY ASPIRATIONAL. UM, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION OF HOW OTHER THAN BEING A GENIE, OR MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT TERM, A MAGICIAN, UM, I THINK THERE'S A WHOLE LOT THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO THE HOW, UM, TO THAT QUESTION. BUT WHAT I DO PROPOSE IS THAT, UM, WE MAYBE MAKE A SUBTLE EDIT, HOW MIGHT THIS COMMISSION ENCOURAGE, OR HOW MIGHT THIS COMMISSION ADVISE? YEAH, I LIKED IT. I LIKED THE WORD ADVICE. YEAH. ULTIMATELY THAT THAT'S OUR SCOPE IS TO ADVISE. YES. RIGHT. AND IT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ADVICE THAT WE GIVE IS UP TO OTHERS TO TAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE INFORMED INSIGHTS. WE CAN PROVIDE EDUCATED, UH, DATABASE REPORTS, UH, INSIGHTFUL REPORTS, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THESE DEPARTMENTS. UH, IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL, MAYOR, STAFF TO TAKE THE ACTION. SO, UM, RATHER THAN, RIGHT, WHY NOT EDIT SIX INSTEAD OF SAYING WORK WITH THE CITY, ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL? WELL, JESSE, UH, UH, THAT'S THE SUGGESTION, I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO AT THIS POINT. UM, I SAW SOME HEADS NODDING. UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE, UH, THIS CHANGE THAT'S BEEN THAT I SUGGESTED COMMISSIONED OFF SCOOP THE SUPPORTS? I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE MAKE THE NUMBER SIX, A LITTLE BIT MORE GENERIC AND SAY SOMETHING ABOUT ADVISING CITY COUNCIL AND WORKING WITH THE CARRIERS. CAN WE IMPROVE ACCESS TO COMMUNICATION SERVICES TO AREAS OF, OF I CONCUR, YEAH. EATS WAS SUGGESTING EFFECT. YOU CAN GET IT UP. UH, IN FACT, YOU, FOR THAT COMMISSIONER GATES, DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR THAT OR, UH, OPPOSITION. OKAY. YES. COMMISSIONER APODACA. I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU FOR MICHELLE DACA. WAS THERE SOMEONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO ADD TO THAT? UH, IT'S JUST MR. HOLLAND. I WAS JUST, UH, ALSO AGREEING THAT'S A GOOD, OKAY. WELL, I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY CLEAR CONSENSUS. NO, NO OPPOSITION TO THAT CHANGE. OKAY. OKAY. CHAIR, PITTS AND COMMISSIONER, COULD YOU READ YOUR EDIT BACK INTO THE RECORD AND I'LL RE I'LL TYPE IN WHAT YOU HAVE AS SIX A AND THEN ONCE WE, UH, HAVE IT LISTED DOWN, I'LL REPLACE SIX WITH SIX, EIGHT. SO HOW MIGHT THIS CONDITION ADVISE CITY COUNCIL ON HOW TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES IN UNDERSERVED AREAS OF AUSTIN? [02:25:13] OKAY. THAT LOOKS GOOD. OKAY. OKAY. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT NUMBER EIGHT THEN, UH, AND GET THAT VERBIAGE WORKED OUT, UH, BECAUSE THE SUGGESTION IS SOMETHING AROUND EMERGENCY SERVICES DELIVERY, RIGHT? HOW MIGHT THE COMMISSION, UH, HOW ABOUT, HOW MIGHT THE COMMISSION ADVISE OH, YES. COMMISSION THAT SCOOP, YOU KNOW, THIS, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE MODIFICATION THAT YOU MADE, UH, MADE WITH SIX. WHY CAN'T WE ELABORATE ON THAT AND SAY, UH, COMMUNICATION SERVICES ARE UNDERSERVED AREAS OF AUSTIN, PARTICULARLY DURING TIMES OF EMERGENCIES. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD COVER BOTH OF THEM THE SAME. YEAH. THIS ONE, WE HAVE FEWER NUMBER OF BULLETS, BUT THE MAGNITUDE OF THE TASK REMAINS. SO LET'S BE MORE SPECIFIC THEN SINCE WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. HOW ABOUT, UH, HOW MIGHT THIS COMMISSION AND BY CITY COUNCIL ON HOW TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY AND TELECOMMUNICATION SERVICES? YES. AND THAT CLEARLY COVERS DEVICES, INTERNET COMMUNICATIONS, AND THEN EMERGENCIES COVERS PANDEMIC, WINTER STORM. KNOW, I GET THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND, UH, WE'RE DOING REALLY GOOD ON TIME HERE. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ANYONE TO OFFER ANY SHRUNK THOUGHTS, UM, ABOUT GAPS OR ANYTHING THAT'S MISSING FROM THIS LIST OF OVERALL COMMISSION OBJECTIVES. I THINK THAT ONCE I AM LOOKING AT ALL THE PRIORITIES LISTED OUT AND I THEN MAPPED THEM TO THESE QUESTIONS, I THERE'S A CHANCE I MIGHT SEE ONE THAT'S MISSING, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I MAY NOT. UH, SO THE KEY THING IS I WANT TO PUT FORWARD A PLAN THAT WE'VE ALL, ALL WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH, AND WE'RE ALL WELL DISCUSSED. THE PRIORITIES THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL ARE OUR PRIORITIES THAT WE'VE AGREED UPON. AND THESE QUESTIONS ARE CHALLENGED. QUESTIONS ARE GENERAL CHALLENGE QUESTIONS THAT WE LOOK TO SHOW PROGRESS ON. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE PLAN WHAT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED, JESSE WILL HELP ME USE AGENDA ITEMS BASED ON PRESENTATIONS AND ACTIONS THAT WE'VE TAKEN AS A BODY THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR TO THEN BE REFERENCEABLE AS PART OF THIS PLAN. SO IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE PUBLISHED PLAN FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, THAT'S WHAT SHE WOULD SEE. YOU WOULD SEE A LIST OF PRESENTATIONS AND THINGS THAT TOOK PLACE OVER THE PREVIOUS, THE, THE THEN PREVIOUS YEAR TO SHOW OUR EFFORTS TO THE MAT, TO THE PLAN. BUT BEFORE WE MOVE TOWARDS THE GERMAN, UH, WANT TO GIVE ANYONE A CHANCE TO OFFER ANY STRONG THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER OURSELVES CHALLENGED WITH, OR FOCUS ON AS A CHALLENGE, UH, OVERALL AS A COMMISSION, UH, IN ADDITION TO [02:30:01] THIS LIST, THE COMMISSIONER GATES, SEE IF SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO ADD? WELL, NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THIS IS PRETTY, ALL INCLUSIVE RIGHT NOW. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S GOOD. I MEAN, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING DONE THIS BEFORE, IDEALLY THIS GETS EASIER AND EASIER, AND THEN WE JUST GET TO FOCUS MORE ON BEING INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE AND LESS ON, LESS ON THE, UH, THE PLANNING WORK. SO THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. WELL WITH THAT, THEN, UH, I THINK WE CAN CONSIDER THIS PART, UH, VIRGINIA DONE. I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SAY THAT WE DO NORMALLY HAVE, UM, WE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, I THINK, UM, UH, ANY SHAKE UP NECESSARILY AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL. UM, JESSE DO ME A FAVOR AND REMIND ME, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO WORKING GROUP LEADERSHIP, UH, IS THAT THE KIND OF THING THAT ONLY KIND OF TAKES PLACE REALLY ON A, UH, AS NEEDED BASIS THAT LEADERSHIP CHANGES? YES. SURE. THE WORKING GROUP LEADERSHIP CAN BE CHANGED AT ANY TIME. IT IS MEMORIALIZED IN THE ANNUAL WORK PLAN DOCUMENT. UM, BUT WE CAN AMEND THAT DOCUMENT, WHICH WILL BE ONE OF THE PRODUCTS OF THIS WORK HERE. UH, WE CAN AMEND THAT DOCUMENT BY EMOTION AT ANY POINT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL THEN WITH THAT SAID BEEN, UH, I DO APPRECIATE GETTING, UH, HAVING ANOTHER WORKING GROUP, HAVING ANOTHER COMMISSIONER JOIN THE DIGITAL INCLUSION WORKING GROUP. AND I GUESS AT THIS POINT, THEN WE KNOW, UH, WHAT THE STRUCTURE'S LIKE IT JUST TO BE CLEAR. UM, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER APODACA, COMMISSIONER ISLAND, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, THOMPSON, BEAVERS, UH, AND MYSELF IN THE DIGITAL INCLUSION AND STRATEGIC SORT OF ENGAGEMENT IN STRATEGIC POLICY WORKING GROUP. WE HAVE IN THE KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION, AND IT'S SHARED BY MYSELF AND THE KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION AND DATA STEWARDSHIP WORKING GROUP. IT'S CHAIRED BY COMMISSIONER VICE-CHAIR ALEXANDER AND ITS MEMBERS INCLUDE, UH, MYSELF. UH, IT INCLUDES, UH, HELP ME OUT, UH, VICE CHAIR, ALEXANDER BULLIED IS ALSO A MEMBER. OH, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. COMMISSIONER FLOYD. UH, THAT'S THREE OF US. UH, DID WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE JOIN? MAYBE NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT THAT'S OKAY. OH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE GREAT IF I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WORKING GROUP NEEDED MORE LOVE? SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU, AND ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU, UM, CONTRIBUTED GOOD AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE GROUP, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT FIT. SO, SO THANK YOU. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. AWESOME. AWESOME. YOU KNOW, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, GUIRO I BELIEVE SHE'S, IS SHE IN THAT WORKING GROUP? I'M NOT SURE EITHER WAY. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT RIGHT. WE'RE STILL RIGHT. OH, YOU KNOW, PERMISSION A GUIRO IS IN THE DIGITAL INCLUSION WORKING GROUP. SHE'S AWESOME. THERE'S AN INCLUSION WORKING GROUP. UH, SO, BUT, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT AT QUORUM THERE EITHER, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE RECORD REFLECTS THAT. SO NO, NO PROBLEMS THERE. AND THEN LASTLY, IN THE, THE, UH, THE TECHNOLOGY INNOVATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE WORKING GROUP, UH, WE HAVE CO-CHAIRS STUFF SCOOP TO AND FLOYD, UH, AND THEN COMMISSIONER GATES, UH, MYSELF. AND I BELIEVE IT'S JUST THE FOUR OF US RIGHT NOW. YES. OKAY. OKAY. BUT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, UH, ANY OF THE WORK GROUPS THAT HAVE OPENINGS, YOU KNOW, IF ANYONE WANTS TO, UH, THROW THEIR HAT IN THE RING, UH, THEY CAN REACH OUT. I THINK WITH, UH, THE MAIN THING TO KEEP IN MIND, UH, FOR THE WORKING GROUPS IS THE SCHEDULING OF THE MEETINGS. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER ISLAND, THE, UH, SCHEDULE FOR OUR WORKING GROUP MEETING IS I'LL MAKE SURE YOU ADD TO THAT. UM, WE JUST HAD CORRESPONDING TO, IS GOING TO TAKE FOREVER [02:35:01] TO LOAD AND SEE YOU ON THE PHONE. OKAY. OKAY. UH, YES. THE VISUAL INCLUSION WORKING GROUP MEETING IS AT FOUR O'CLOCK ON THE TUESDAY PRIOR TO OUR MEETINGS. IS THAT GOING TO BE FUN FOR YOU? IF NOT, WHAT WE CAN DO OF COURSE IS, UH, WORK ON A DOODLE POLL TO GET A TIME AS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY, INCLUDING YOURSELF, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT IT WORKS. IT MIGHT BE PROBLEMATIC. UM, A FIVE MIGHT BE BETTER IF IT'S OKAY TO PUSH IT IN THERE. I THINK IT WOULD BE FOR ME, UH, FROM MY PART, UM, UH, JOHN, UH, IS, JOHN WILL CALL WITH US TONIGHT. WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL WORK WITH JESSE ON THAT AND CONFIRM, BUT, UH, I'LL WORK ON TRYING TO GET THAT MOVED UP TO FIVE. I'LL DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS DON'T SACRIFICE HER WENT UP THERE. WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT TOO, AS WELL AT FIVE O'CLOCK THAT'S COMMISSIONER APODACA, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, BEAVERS. IF WE WANTED TO SWITCH TO FIVE INSTEAD OF FOUR, I'M SORRY. IT'S OKAY WITH ME. BUT I REMEMBER THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER GARA WAS THE ONE WHO HAD, UM, THE, THE SCHEDULING CHALLENGES. SO THAT'S PROBABLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MAIN PERSONS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION YOU'RE I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. UM, CAN YOU GIVE ME THE DATE AGAIN? REASSURE? SO WE WERE LOOKING AT, UM, THE TUESDAY, THE WEEK PRIOR. SO, UH, OUR LAST MEETING WAS ON THE 4TH OF MAY AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND WE HAD A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 4TH AND EXCUSE ME, JUNE, UH, JUNE 8TH. I CAN, I CAN DO FOUR ON THE EIGHTH. OKAY. YEAH, THESE WORKS FOR ME, SO, OKAY. SO WE'VE GOT TWO, WE'VE GOT TO THREE. SO THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL REACH OUT TO COMMISSIONER GUIRO AND CONFIRM HER AVAILABILITY, AND THEN IF NECESSARY, WE'LL GO BACK TO A DOODLE POLL AND WE'LL GET THAT SORTED OUT. UH, AND THEN THE OTHER THING TO CONFIRM IS AS WELL FOR THE KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION AND DATA STEWARDSHIP WORKING GROUP, THE NEXT ONE IS, UH, ON THE 21ST OF JUNE. SO DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU COMMISSIONER ISLAND? THAT SHOULD BE 4:00 PM. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, JESSE. AND IF YOU'D BE SO KIND AS TO MAKE SURE TO UPDATE, UH, THE IMITATION FOR THE KNOWLEDGE INFORMATION, DATA WORKER, STEWARDSHIP, WORKING GROUP TO INCLUDE COMMISSIONER IRELAND AND, UH, AND GO AHEAD AND ADD HER TO THE DIGITAL INCLUSION ONE AS WELL, OR PERHAPS HAVE JOHN DO THAT. AND THEN WE'LL CONFIRM WITH COMMISSIONER , UH, ABOUT THE CHANGE, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT SHE'S OKAY, WE CAN KEEP IT AT FOUR CHAIRMAN, KEVIN. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, I THINK THAT TAKES US TO COMPLETING OUR WORK PLAN AND OUR WORKING GROUP AND A WORK PLAN RETREAT, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT I DIDN'T COVER THAT YOU THINK WE NEED TO GO OVER PERTAINING TO THAT, JEN, THE ITEM, JESSE, YOUR PITS. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ADDITIONAL ON THIS ITEM. I'LL JUST NOTE THAT I'M HAPPY TO FACILITATE ANY ALTERNATE SCHEDULING AS NEEDED TO KEEP THE WORKING GROUPS GOING. AWESOME. THAT IS GREAT NEWS. ALL RIGHT. WELL WITH THAT, THEN, UH, WE ARE TRANSITIONING IN OUR AGENDA AND THAT TAKES US [FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. NOW, UH, THIS IS BASICALLY GOING TO BE, I THINK, A REPEAT OF OUR PREVIOUS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO THAT KIND OF CORRESPONDS WITH THE, UH, THE MINUTES, WHICH WILL BE EASY FOR ME TO REVIEW. WE LOOKED AT WITH THE PRIORITY OF EMERGENCY BROADBAND BENEFIT, ENABLING ANY PROVIDERS THAT HAVE YET TO PRESENT ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO DO SO. AND I THINK SPECTRUM IS ONE OF THE MOST RECENT ONES HAVE BEEN [02:40:01] REACHED OUT TO WE'LL SEE, WHO'S READY TO PRESENT ON THAT BY THE NEXT MEETING. UH, DEFINITELY GOING TO BE REACHING OUT TO OUR NEW, UH, DIRECTOR OF CTM AND REQUESTING A, A PRESENTATION POSSIBLE. UH, WE CAN ANTICIPATE A BRIEFING FROM JOHN SPEARS, THE PROGRAM MANAGER, AS HE MENTIONED ON DIGITAL INCLUSION. UH, AND THAT'LL BE PART OF THAT SESSION AS WELL. AND THEN WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE, UM, UNLESS ANYONE WANTS TO MAKE MENTION OF A THOUGHT NOW IS THAT YOU REACH OUT TO ME DIRECTLY, UH, WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE AS THE AGENDA. AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND DIALOGUE ABOUT THAT. AT THAT TIME, WITH MY AGREEMENT, WE WILL BE ABLE TO ADD TO THE AGENDA, UH, OTHERWISE YOU WOULD NEED TO SIMPLY HAVE TO, UH, OTHER ONE OTHER COMMISSIONER, UH, TO REQUEST THE ITEM TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA AS WELL. I'D LIKE TO MAKE SEVERAL SUGGESTIONS TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. PLEASE, PLEASE GO RIGHT AHEAD. ALL RIGHT. SO FIRST I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET A REPORT ON THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE REMOTE PARTICIPATION, UH, PROJECT, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY GIVEN YOU COUNCIL OR COMMITTEE AGENDA ITEM REQUESTS, AND WE NEED TO GET A REPORT FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON THE STATUS OF THAT. HAS THAT EVER BEEN PUT ONTO A COMMITTEE, A COUNCIL COMMITTEE? SO THAT'S, UH, ONE THING AND, UH, THE OTHER, UH, ITEM I THINK THAT WE COULD HAVE, AND MAYBE THIS COULD BE INCLUDED IN THE CTM REPORT IS A REPORT ON HOW WELL GATTON GET NETWORK OPERATED DURING THE FREEZE. IN OTHER WORDS, WERE CITY SERVICES REALLY IMPACTED, SO THAT, THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE. AND THEN AT SOME POINT WE NEED SOME KIND OF A REPORT ON GOVERNANCE, IT PROJECT GOVERNANCE. SO THOSE ARE THREE SUGGESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT, UH, TO ADDRESS, UH, YES. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. YEAH. I HEARD ONCE FROM THE SMART CITIES FOLKS, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. OKAY. LET'S, UH, THAT'S AN INTERESTING SUGGESTION AS WELL. I KNOW THAT, UM, WE ARE DEFINITELY DUE FOR, UH, UH, A UPDATE FROM CTM AND THAT COULD OBVIOUSLY INCLUDE, UH, INFORMATION ON GOVERNMENT, UH, GOVERNANCE. IT COULD INCLUDE, UH, AS WELL, THE OTHER TOPICAL AREA, UH, THAT COMMISSIONER GATES MENTIONED, UH, FOR, FOR THEM TO PRIORITIZE IN TERMS OF GATTON AND ANY CHANGES TO THAT NETWORK, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, WOULD YOU REMIND ME THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT'S MR. GATES. SO THAT IS A REPORT FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON THE CURRENT STATUS QUO AND YOU REMOTE PARTICIPATION PROJECT. RIGHT, RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO, IN TERMS OF THAT, UH, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UH, I THINK THAT THE BIBLE COURSE OF ACTION WILL BE FORCED TO START WITH A, UH, A REQUEST FOR UPDATE, UH, VIA EMAIL, BUT TO ALSO INCLUDE THAT AS AGENDA ITEM. UH, RIGHT. SO, SO BASICALLY LET'S MAKE THAT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO THAT WAY WE KEEP IT IN THE RECORD AS A BY DISCUSSION POINT, AND THEN WE THEN GIVE THEM THE OPTION TO, UH, PROVIDE US A FORMAL UPDATE OVER EMAIL TO JESSIE. UH, AND THEN IF WE'RE NOT SATISFIED WITH THAT, UH, THEN WE ADDRESS IT IN THE MEETING. DOES THAT SOUND OKAY? UH, DEFINITELY. WE NEED TO KEEP ALL THESE PEOPLE OTHERWISE THEY WILL FORGET ABOUT IT. UM, SO POST I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT IF, UM, IF WE FEEL AS THOUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, WE RUN THE RISK OF BEING, UH, OVERLOOKED OR SOMEHOW, UH, DEPRIORITIZED BY NOT, UH, REQUESTING THE BRIEFING. THE THING OF COURSE, THAT, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM IF WE DO GET A BRIEFING FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO DO THAT REMOTELY, JESSE? OR WOULD THAT BE THE KIND OF THING THEY HAVE TO GO TO CITY HALL TO DO? SORRY, I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH THE FIRST PART OF THAT QUESTION. TIRPITZ COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? SURE. LET ME CLARIFY. UH, IF WE REQUEST A BRIEFING FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON [02:45:01] REMOTE PARTICIPATION, THE PILOT, WOULD THAT BE A BRIEFING THAT THEY COULD EXECUTE REMOTELY, OR WOULD THEY HAVE TO GO TO CITY HALL TO DO THAT UPDATE? YOU COULD DO THAT, UH, EITHER WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD EITHER DRAFT MEMORANDUM OR THEY COULD PARTICIPATE AS A, YOU KNOW, A REMOTE PARTICIPANT IN THIS TYPE OF A WEB MEETING. UH, SO OUR OPTIONS ARE OPEN THERE. OKAY. BUT, BUT UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, UH, THE MEMORANDUM WOULD SUFFICE AS, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ACCOUNTING, SO TO SPEAK, UH, AND AS WELL AS, UH, AN ACCOUNTABILITY POINT, UH, FOR THAT, UM, AS WELL AS WHAT, OF COURSE, A BRIEFING. UH, SO I I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU COMMISSIONER GATES. UH, IF YOU FEEL AS THOUGH THE MEMORANDUM WILL BE SUFFICIENT, OR IF YOU WOULD ONLY BE SATISFIED IF THEY CAME AND GAVE AN UPDATE ON THE, ON THE RECORD ON CAMERA. I THINK THAT INITIALLY JUST THE MEMORANDUM OF WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS IS, AND IF THERE IS NO STATUS, THEN WE HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING, OR MAYBE WE EACH INDIVIDUALLY NEED TO GO TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SAY, YOU GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GETS ON THE AGENDA OF A COUNCIL COMMITTEE. OKAY. WELL, JESSE, WHEN IT COMES TO THE FORMAL MEMO, UH, IS THAT SOMETHING WHICH WE NEED TO ACT ON TO THE BODY PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING? OR WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO REQUEST THAT, UH, INSUFFICIENT TIME TO AT LEAST DISCUSS THIS AT THE WORKING GROUP LEVEL PRIOR TO THE NEXT MEETING? JARED? SO I CAN CERTAINLY REQUEST A MEMO, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE UP TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE THE MEMO, BUT I CAN MAKE THE REQUEST WITHOUT, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL ACTION BY THE COMMISSION. RIGHT. OKAY. JESSE, I HAVE A QUESTION HERE AND THAT IS, ARE WE ADDRESSING THE QUESTION TO THE CORRECT GROUP NOW, IN OTHER WORDS, HENCE THIS ALREADY ASKED BEYOND THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND IS NOW IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, AND IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO ACTUALLY ASSIGN THIS ITEM TO A COMFORTABLE COMMITTEE. YES, YOU ARE CORRECT. WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED A, UH, COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUEST RELATED TO THIS ITEM. SO WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS WITH THAT REQUEST IS THAT IT'S IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WAITING, ASSIGNED, AWAITING ASSIGNMENT TO, UH, A COUNCIL COMMITTEE. OKAY. SO IN THAT CASE, I'M ASKING SOMETHING OF SYDNEY COURT'S OFFICE MIGHT BE FAIRLY NEW BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO JUST GOING TO SAY WE DID OUR JOB AND THERE WAS NOTHING MORE THAT WE CAN DO. AND, UM, I GUESS WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, UM, AND TRY AND GET SOMETHING OUT OF THEM. AND I AM ALSO HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT REQUEST AND SEEK AN UPDATE ON WHERE IT IS IN THE PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HOPE THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS NOT PUTTING YOU IN AN UNCOMFORTABLE POSITION BY ASKING HIM TO GO TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND ASK HIM ABOUT THIS. OKAY. NO, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE ORDINARY. IT'S JUST ASKING FOR A STATUS UPDATE ON, ON WHERE IT IS IN THE PIPELINE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD NEWS. OKAY. WELL THEN THAT SEEMS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE. UM, AND AT THAT STAGE, DOES THAT ADDRESS THAT TO YOUR SATISFACTION COMMISSIONER GATES? YES. I THINK THAT THAT'S THE, WE'VE NOW DIRECTED THE CORRUPT QUESTION TO THE CORRECT ORGANIZATION AND WE JUST HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE ANSWER IS HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE. OKAY. WELL, WITH THAT SAID, LET ME OPEN IT UP TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU THINK THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS OR DISCUSSION IF YOU WANT TO RAISE NOW? OKAY. WELL WITH THAT, THEN, UH, THAT CONCLUDES FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. AND I AM READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR A GERMAN SECOND. UH, I'M SORRY. I HAD A MOTION FOR GERMAN BY WHO? ME THIRSTY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS FIRST TO A MOTION FOR JURY BY COMMISSIONERS. FIRST [02:50:01] KEY. UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND, AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER FLOYD, UH, WITH THAT SAM WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO A VERBAL VOTE ALL IN FAVOR OF GERMAN. PLEASE SAY AYE, AND SHOW YOUR HAND. ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. THEN WE ARE ADJOURN WITH THE VOTE. UH, I'M SORRY, JUST TO BE CLEAR. ANYONE ABSTAINING. OKAY. AND WE'RE ADJOURNED WITH 10 OH, IN FAVOR OF A GERMAN. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TONIGHT AND FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON OUT THIS, UH, PLANNING, LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEW YEAR AND ALL THAT WE'RE GONNA DO TOGETHER ABOUT OUR WORKING GROUPS, THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SHARE ABOUT BENEFITS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU A GREAT WEEKEND. THANK YOU, JESSE. THANK YOU, MANDELA. THANK YOU. THANKS COMMISSIONER MOMMY. GET DOWN THERE AND GET SO LOUD. HAVE A COMMON BAG. DAMN. . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.