* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] AH, OKAY. AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A QUORUM. SO I'LL CALL THIS [Call to Order] MEETING OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER. UM, AND TODAY IS MAY, 1820 21, AND I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY TO REMAIN MUTED WHEN YOU ARE NOT SPEAKING AND RAISE YOUR MISS. YOU TRY AGAIN. LET ME KNOW. AND, UM, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL IS OPEN. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER CASA, UH, KOSTA PRESENT THAT I AM HERE ABOUT A RAMIREZ, UH, COMMISSIONER BRAY BEER COMMISSIONER. DINKLER ISN'T A TO BE HERE. COMMISSIONER KING HERE. MISSIONARY KIELBASA HERE. COMMISSIONER RAY, MR. SMITH HERE, MR. THOMPSON HERE, THAT COMMISSIONER WOODY IS ALSO MISSING. SO, UM, ANY PARTICIPANTS SELECT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE, AND IF YOUR ITEM IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REMAIN ON THE LINE. THEY WILL CALL. YOU WILL RECEIVE AN EMAIL ABOUT 15 MINUTES AWAY FROM TAKING UP THE ITEM. SO FIRST WE ARE GOING TO REVIEW THE [Reading of the Agenda] [Consent Agenda] AGENDA AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. I WILL READ EACH PUBLIC HEARING ITEM AND IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF FOR CONSENT APPROVAL, WHICH WILL INCLUDE CONSENT POSTPONEMENTS AND NON DISCUSSION ITEMS. SO FIRST IS A APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS FOR THE MINUTES? OH, GREAT. OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO B ONE, WHICH IS, UH, CASEY 1420. IS IT REZONING C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO FIVE SIX AT 1,609 MATTHEWS LANE REZONING. UM, THIS IS A DISCUSSION FOR POSTPONEMENT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS REQUESTING A POST-MOMENT TO JUNE 1ST. UM, B2 IS, UM, ZONING AND REZONING OF C EIGHT ONE FOUR ZERO FOUR ZERO ONE EIGHT SEVEN DOT OH TWO DOT S H GOODNIGHT, RANCH, PUD, SECOND AMENDMENT. AND I WILL BE RECUSING MYSELF BECAUSE I HAVE A, A SUBSTANTIAL INTEREST AS MY EMPLOYER. CAPITAL METRO IS, UH, WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO IMPROVE TRANSIT IN THE AREA. SO I'M WORKING ON THAT PROJECT. B3 IS C 14 2020 ZERO ONE FIVE ONE AT BETWEEN 84 OH ONE AND 84 SEVEN SOUTH FIRST STREET. AND THIS IS A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT. A NEIGHBORHOOD IS REQUESTING POSTPONEMENT TO JUNE 1ST, BEFORE IS C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO THREE FIVE AND MCLAURIN REZONE. AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. B FIVE IS A REZONING C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO TWO ONE AT SEVEN ZERO ZERO NINE. ED LOU STEEN BOULEVARD ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, B SIX C 1476 ZERO EIGHT THREE THREE. THIS IS A RCA AS PART OF A B FIVE AT 7,009 AT BLITZSTEIN B SEVEN IS A REZONING C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO THREE TWO SHELTON ROAD. AND STAFF IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT TILL JUNE 1ST, B EIGHT IS C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO ZERO THREE SONATO AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JUNE 15TH. BENIGN IS C 18, 2008 ZERO ONE TWO TWO DOT FOUR, A EAST VILLAGE, SINGLE FAMILY PHASE FOUR FINAL PLAT, AND IT HAS BEEN RE REVISED AND WE ARE VOTING TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. B 10 IS A FINAL PLAT WITH VARIANCE C EIGHT 2020 ZERO ONE SIX 0.08, SAM BEACH OVERLOOK SUBDIVISION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND C 11 RE SUBDIVISION C EIGHT 2019 ZERO ZERO FIVE 2.08. GIBSONS GROTTO B12 IS A PLAT VACATION, C EIGHT J 2008 ZERO ONE NINE 5.08. UM, THAT'S A VACATION CONSENT AND THEN B 13, C EIGHT, J 2018 ZERO ZERO ONE 0.08 FLINT ROCK SUBDIVISION. SO ALL OF THAT TOGETHER, ME SUM IT UP. UM, SO B ONE IS A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT. B TWO IS ALSO, UM, FOR UP FOR DISCUSSION. B3 IS A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, UM, BEFORE THROUGH B FOUR THROUGH BEEF 13 IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. DID I GET THAT RIGHT? YES. UH, I DON'T SEE WHO HAD THEIR HAND AT FIRST, UH, INC MRS. COMMISSIONER SMITH. YEAH. I WANT TO MAKE SURE ON ITEM NINE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL BASED ON THE STAFF REPORT THAT IS MAY 14TH AND EXHIBIT C AS A TAX AND ALL THE COMMENTS [00:05:01] IN THAT REPORT. THAT'S WHAT THEY APPROVED WAS BASED ON. IT'S NOT AS COMMON AS, OKAY. SO IT'S APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. WHAT CONDITIONS CONDITIONS ARE EXITED. SEE AN ATTACK REPORT DATED MAY 14TH. OKAY. UH, YES. AND, UH, CHAIR, CAN WE ADD ITEM E ITEM E ITEMS TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? THOSE ARE THE APPOINTMENTS TO NOMINATIONS OF OUR, OF OUR, OF OUR COMMISSIONERS TO THESE, UH, OTHER COMMITTEES. OKAY. UM, I BELIEVE SETH HAD INDICATED THAT WE COULD CONCLUDE THAT IN THE CONSENT AGENDA IF WE WANTED TO. OKAY. UM, I'M OKAY WITH THAT. IF, IF EVERYONE ELSE IS OKAY WITH PUTTING IT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CHAIR ALSO, IT LOOKS LIKE COMMISSIONER WOODY HAS NOW JOINED US. HI, WELCOME. HI COMMISSIONER WOODY. OKAY. GREAT. LAYS ON ANDREW RIVERA. YES. HI, ANDREW, IF WE'LL JUST NOTE THAT IT'S THE EXHIBIT SLATE FOR E ONE THROUGH THREE, THE EXHIBIT SLATE FOR THREE. OKAY. YES. THAT'S UM, THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO US. OKAY. SO JUST, AGAIN, ONE MORE TIME. WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING V1 AND V2 AND TO BE THREE, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE FOUR THROUGH 13 IS ON CONSENT. AND THEN E ONE, TWO AND THREE IS ALSO ON CONSENT WITH THE, UM, YOU ONE SLATE. AND THEN B NINE IS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS AS SHOWN IN EXHIBIT C MR. SMITH. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ TO DO. AND WE ALREADY APPROVED THE MINUTES. I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION. OKAY. JUDGES. OKAY, GREAT. IS THAT A SECOND COMMISSIONER KING? UH, COMMISSIONER ARE CLOSE TO MAY CERTAINLY SECOND THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S FINE WITH ME, SIR. YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD. UH, UH, SERIOUSLY, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MINUTES ARE INCLUDED IN THE CONSENT THAT WAS APPROVED ON CONSENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT LOOKS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU EVERYONE. AND SO WE'LL BE MOVING ON [B1. Rezoning: C14-2021-0056 - 1609 Matthews Lane Rezoning; District 5] TO B ONE, WHICH IS, UH, WE'RE DISCUSSING POSTPONEMENT. AND LET'S SEE IF I CAN REMEMBER HOW THIS GOES. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DELVE INTO THE MERITS OF THE CASE. POSTPONEMENT MUST BE 60 DAYS FROM TODAY'S MEETING. THERE WILL BE NO STAFF INTRODUCTION. UM, SO WE CAN TALK TO FROM TWO MINUTES FROM EACH SIDE OR TWO FROM EACH SIDE AND THEY GET TWO MINUTES EACH. SO WE IS THERE, ARE THERE SPEAKERS, ANDREW? SURE. WE'LL BEGIN FROM HEARING, UM, THE REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT FROM MR. SUTTON FOR TWO MINUTES. MY NAME IS EUGENE SUTTON. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE MATTHEW CELINE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT ON MAY 4TH, AND WE'VE HAD ANY NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON MAY 11TH. OUR ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN 1105 MATTHEWS AND VALID PETITIONS ON THAT. AND 1609. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH DEVELOPERS AND PETITIONERS ON 1105. I'VE WRITTEN TO MS. HOSS SEVERAL TIMES AND WE'VE COMMUNICATED THROUGH EMAIL. WE'RE ALSO INVOLVED WITH SOUTH STONE, WHICH IS CONSTRUCTING 232 UNITS BEHIND US AND THERE'S TRAFFIC ISSUES AND CONSTRUCTION ISSUES WHERE OUR, OUR, OUR OUTREACH COMMITTEE HAS ASKED ME FOR AN POSTPONEMENT. AND I WROTE TO WENDY ROSE ROADS AND VICTORIA HOS ON FRIDAY LAST, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A POSTPONEMENT TO JUNE 1ST. WE'D ALSO LIKE WE'VE ALSO INVITED MS. HAAS TO A ZOOM MEETING AND TO BEGIN DISCUSSION ON OUR FEELINGS ABOUT THIS ISSUE ON 1609. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THEN NEXT WOULD BE THIS FOLKS, OR IS THERE A POSITION TO THE POSTPONEMENT OR THE, IS THE APPLICANT? YES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS VICTORIA HOTSY WITH SERVER DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF 1609 MATTHEW BLAINE. AND WE DID AGREE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FIRST REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT AND MADE OURSELVES AVAILABLE TO MEET OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS AND ALSO PROVIDED A VERY GENERAL SCOPE OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT BY EMAIL, WHEN OUR AUTHORS TO ME WERE NOT THAT WE'VE NOT RECEIVED QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY AND ONLY JUST FRIDAY AS MR. SUTTON SAID, WE DID RECEIVE [00:10:01] A GENERAL INVITE SET UP A MEETING NOW THAT THEY HAVE A PETITION UNDERWAY FOR THIS PROPERTY, UM, OR THIS PROJECT, THIS REASON IN CASE. SO WE REMAIN WILLING AND WE'RE AGREEABLE TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER TONIGHT AND PRIOR TO COUNCIL. HOWEVER, WE ARE NOT AGREEABLE TO THEIR SECOND REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT. UM, AT THIS POINT, UH, PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING WILL PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO LEARN MORE, PROVIDE THEIR CONCERNS, UH, UM, AFTER THIS MEETING AND HOPEFULLY BENEFIT FROM THE DIALOGUE THAT THE COMMISSION COULD HAVE TONIGHT. SO, UM, WITH THAT WE, UH, RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT WE CONTINUE FORWARD THIS EVENING WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS FOR POSTPONEMENT AND, UH, AGAINST POSTPONEMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER KING. THANK YOU, CHAIR. UM, THE, UH, YEAH, UH, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST LISTENING TO THE SPEAKER OF, YOU KNOW, FOR THE POSTPONEMENT AND I DO CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'VE, THEIR HANDS ARE FULL. AND AS YOU KNOW, SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT THEY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, AND I WOULD PREFER THAT THE, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPERS MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS AND GET FEEDBACK EARLY ON BECAUSE THE SOONER THAT FEEDBACK IS INCORPORATED, THE BETTER THE PROJECT'S GOING TO BE ALONG THE WAY. SO, AND, AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IS THIS SCHEDULED TOO FOR THE JUNE 3RD COUNCIL MEETING? IS THIS WENDY ROSE? YES. OKAY. SO WE COULD DO A POSTPONEMENT TO OUR JUNE 1ST MEETING, HANDLED THE CASE THERE AND STILL MAKE THE TIMELINE FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE THE THIRD. CAUSE OUR NEXT COUNT, OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON JUNE THE FIRST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. HERRERA. THERE'S STILL TIME AND TARA IN THE INTEREST OF TIME. IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT THE POPO POSTPONEMENT REQUEST TO OUR JUNE 1ST MEETING. UH, IS THAT, UH, THE SECOND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? YES. OKAY. SURE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION OR IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR NINE. OKAY. AND THOSE OPPOSED? OKAY. THAT LOOKS LIKE NINE 21. OH, IT WILL BE POSTPONED UNTIL JUNE 1ST. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO BEAT TWO ITEM AT B2. AND AS I MENTIONED, I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LINKS ON ADVAIR. WE HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT ON ITEM B THREE. SO YOU'RE SAYING I SHOULD DO THAT ONE FIRST. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? CORRECT. OKAY. LET'S DO THAT THEN. SO, UM, ITEM B3 [B3. Rezoning: C14-2020-0151 - 8401 - 8407 South 1st Street; District 2 (Part 1 of 2)] AND WE HAVE, UM, SO THERE WAS, THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT. WE'LL GO FIRST AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE, WELL, IT SAYS FOR AN OPPOSE, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE FIRST SPEAKER IS. IS IT MR. SIPES OR CHRIS SIPES? CHAIR OF THE REQUESTER WAS MR. JEFF MILLER. WE'LL HEAR FROM MR. MILLER. OH, I SEE. OKAY. HELLO. HI. HELLO. MY NAME IS JEFF MILLER. I'M A HOMEOWNER ON BEAVERBROOK LANE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SITE WE'RE REQUESTING POSTPONEMENT FOR THE JUNE 1ST. THAT MEANS THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE JUST MET LAST FRIDAY NIGHT, MAY 14TH WITH THE ZONING CASE MANAGER AND ATTENDANCE. AND WE'RE ABLE TO REVIEW THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL AS IT RELATES TO SITE DEVELOPMENT, BUILDING PLACEMENT, HEIGHT, SETBACKS, LANDSCAPING, FENCING, PLUS RELATED TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM ISSUES ON SOUTH BURKE STREET AND DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT IMPACT THE BEACON RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE NOT HAD ADEQUATE TIME TO REVIEW AND DATE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO DISCUSS NEXT STEPS. WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL TIME GRANTED THROUGH A TWO WEEK POST COMMENT TO REGROUP. THANK YOU. AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. ANDREW, WERE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR THE POSTPONEMENT? SURE. SO IS SPEAKING WITH MR. MILLER? UM, HE WAS THE ONLY ONE REQUESTING THE POSTPONEMENT. HOWEVER, I DO HAVE ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS, UM, REGISTERED IN OPPOSITION, THE ZONING CASE ITSELF. UM, PERHAPS ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO, UM, PROVIDE REMARKS. [00:15:06] UM, JENNIFER, LAURA AND I MOVED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN APRIL AND ONLY LEARNED OF THIS CASE AT THE END OF THE MONTH. YOU IDENTIFY, CAN YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE? IS THIS, UM, MR. MCAFEE? YES, THIS IS DYLAN MCAFEE. OKAY, THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. YOU'RE WELCOME. UH, SO WE ONLY MOVED IN AT, UH, IN APRIL AND LEARNED ABOUT THIS AT THE END OF APRIL. AND, UH, HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO COLLECT ADEQUATE INFORMATION. WE GOT ON A LAST MINUTE MEETING LAST FRIDAY AND WE'RE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONEMENT JUST BECAUSE, UH, WE'D LIKE TO DISCUSS MORE AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CASE. THANKS FOR CONSIDERATION. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, I IS THE APPLICANT OR ANYONE ELSE WENT IN GOING TO SPEAK AGAINST THE POSTPONEMENT TOUR COMMISSIONER LAYS ON IT, VERY HEAR FROM MR. HARTMAN FOLLOWED BY MR. MIGUEL, LAURA. OKAY, GOOD EVENING CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS DAVID HARTMAN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT WAYFINDER REAL ESTATE. YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S SECOND REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT. THIS IS, UM, THE MOST FULLY DEVELOPED A ROBUST ZONING CASE FOR ZAP IN TERMS OF BUFFERING DRAIN IS TRANSPORTATION. AND MY PROFESSIONAL CAREER REALLY, WE AGREED TO THE ONE MONTH POSTPONEMENT ON APRIL 20TH, PARTLY SO WE COULD MEET. THERE'S BEEN NO QUOTE UNQUOTE NEW INFORMATION SINCE THAT TIME, OTHER THAN CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT, BOTH KIND OF NON ZONING. UM, WE'VE HAD FOUR MEETINGS, INCLUDING WITH DRAINAGE STAFF, ZONING STAFF SINCE EARLY MARCH. THEY'VE BEEN WIDELY ATTENDED BY, YOU KNOW, A DOZEN 16 OR SO NEIGHBORS. THOSE MEETINGS WERE FOLLOWED UP BY EMAILS, UH, DELIVERING, UH, WORK PRODUCT. AND THERE'VE BEEN TWO MEETINGS. FOR EXAMPLE, SINCE THE LAST POSTPONEMENT WITH MULTIPLE EMAILS, UM, UM, DRAINAGE AND ATD STAFF IS ON THE PHONE TONIGHT AND WE'RE READY TO PROCEED AND MOVE FORWARD. AND I WOULD JUST CLOSE BY ASKING THAT YOU DON'T PENALIZE WITH FURTHER DELAY. AS A DEVELOPER HAS BEEN BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO RESPOND TO REASONABLE REQUESTS AND HONOR THE, THE GENERAL ZAP POLICY OF, OF ONE POSTPONEMENT. AND THIS IS MAC MAC OR AT THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST ADD THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL ADJOINING NEIGHBORS THAT DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT ALREADY. AND THAT'S AFTER SIGNIFICANT CORRESPONDENCE, BOTH IN PERSON VIA ZOOM, UM, OR REGULARLY BY EMAIL AND PHONE. UH, WE'VE MOST RECENTLY MET WITH, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS IMMEDIATELY, IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY THAT, UH, UH, ENCOMPASSES THE ENTIRE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE WHO MOST RECENTLY SUBMITTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT AS WELL. UM, THE DIALOGUE WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UM, HAS BEEN VERY OPEN AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE SO, UH, THROUGH ZAP AND THEREAFTER, AS WE APPROACH THINGS ENTER INTO THE SUMMER MONTHS AND GO INTO COUNCIL. AND, UH, WE, WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF CONTINUING THAT DIALOGUE AND CONTINUING TO BUILD OUT, UM, OUR PLANS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, SO THAT IT'S, UH, CONTINUES ON ITS PATH OF BEING BENEFICIAL TO THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL AS TO THE PROJECT ITSELF. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE, UM, SOME SIGNIFICANT CONTRACTUAL DEADLINES AND OBLIGATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET AND WE ARE, WE'RE BUMPING UP AGAINST THOSE, UM, WITH ANY ADDITIONAL DELAY, UM, TO THE PSAP COMMISSION MEETING TONIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? HEY, UM, THANK YOU CHAIR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WENDY, UM, A FEW QUESTIONS INCLUDING THE BIG ONE OF THEM IS WHEN IS THIS SCHEDULED FOR COUNCIL AND ANY OBSERVATIONS SHE COULD ADD TO THIS, THIS CASE? THIS IS WENDY RHODES. THIS IS, THIS CASE IS, WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR COUNCIL ON THE 29TH OF JULY. UH, JUST TOO. YES. AND YES, UH, THE 29TH OF JULY. SO NOT, NOT ONE OF THE JUNE MEETINGS. UH, I DID HOLD A HOST, A MEETING LAST WEEK WITH DRAINAGE ENGINEERING AND WATERSHED ENGINEERING STAFF. UH, EIGHT INTERESTED NEIGHBORS JOINED AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT, UM, DISCUSSING DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN. I ALSO HOSTED A, ANOTHER MEETING LAST FRIDAY NIGHT AND APPROXIMATELY 11 RESIDENTS WERE IN ATTENDANCE. UH, I DON'T HAVE A UNIFIED POSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD [00:20:01] AT THIS TIME. UM, THERE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMMENT RESPONSES, BUT, UH, NOT A UNIFIED OR AGREED UPON, UH, POSITION ON THIS ZONING CASE. UM, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO OFFER AN OPINION ABOUT, DO YOU THINK MORE TIME WOULD GIVE THEM A WIN-WIN WOULD GIVE EVERYBODY A WIN-WIN BASED ON THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE TODAY? I, I THINK THAT ADDITIONAL TIME MIGHT BE HELPFUL. UM, BUT I, I CAN'T BE CERTAIN BASED ON, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME ARE IN SUPPORT RIGHT NOW AND SOME ARE OPPOSED RIGHT NOW, ADDITIONAL TIME MAY BRING THE TWO SIDES CLOSER TOGETHER. AND PERHAPS ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VENDING CASE WITH THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS. THERE MAY BE OTHER COVENANTS THAT COULD BE CREATED DURING THE TWO WEEK POST-OP PERIOD THAT'S BEING REQUESTED. YEAH, I SEE LOTS OF HANDS. UM, AND I DON'T, I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO WHO WAS FIRST. WAS THAT, ARE YOU DONE COMMISSIONER LABASA YES, I AM. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU, WENDY. AND THANK YOU. YOU'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF CALLS AND EMAILS ABOUT THIS, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET'S GO WITH, UH, KOSTA FIRST AND THEN, UH, SMITH AND BREE. CAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU'RE ON MY SCREEN. OH, YOU'RE ON MUTE COMMISSIONER KOSTA. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I THANK YOU, SHARON. REALLY? I JUST WANTED TO TRY AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS IF WHAT'S THE CONSEQUENCE OF US NOT HEARING THE CASE TODAY, IF WE DO, WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND THEY'RE STILL GOING TO WAIT UNTIL JULY BEFORE THEY'RE HEARD BEFORE COUNCIL. AND IF WE POSTPONE, WE HAVE FROM NOW TILL, YOU KNOW, TILL JUNE 1ST, I GUESS, TO HEAR AND THAT'LL HAVE THE SAME OUTCOME, NO MATTER WHAT IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY, IS THERE, IS THERE, IS THERE A D UH, DOES ANYTHING, DOES ANYTHING PUSH THEIR, THEIR DEADLINES OR THEIR OBLIGATIONS FOR NOT HOLDING THE MEETING OR NOT HEARING THE CASE LATER? THAT MAY BE FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. YEAH. THIS IS DAVID HARTMAN. AGAIN, I WOULD JUST REITERATE WHAT I, WHAT I PREVIOUSLY SAID, YOU KNOW, IN THE BACKUP THERE'S A ONE-PAGER THAT KIND OF HAS THE, THE, WITHOUT GETTING TO THE SUBSTANCE OF IT WITH, UH, HAS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT THEY'VE BEEN BASICALLY IDENTICAL SINCE THE APRIL 20TH MEETING. WE'VE HAD TWO SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS SINCE THAT TIME. AND, AND, UM, FRANKLY, I DON'T, IF WE WERE BASICALLY FORCED TO, TO A TWO WEEK POSTPONEMENT AND FORCED TO MEET AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED IN THAT INTERIM TIME. I THINK, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS THE MOST FULLY DEVELOPED, ROBUST ZONING CASE. IT SUPPORTED BY, YOU KNOW, PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, OTHER THAT ARE, THAT ARE NOT ON THIS PHONE CALL. SO I THINK THAT, UH, BASICALLY THE TIME IS RIGHT FOR US TO, TO HEAR THIS CASE, HEAR FROM ATD STAFF, HEAR FROM DRAINING STAFF AND PROCEED, AND THERE WOULD BE BASICALLY NO NEW INFORMATION TODAY COMPARED TO FOUR WEEKS AGO. AND THERE'LL BE NO NEW INFORMATION IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS IN TERMS OF A COMPROMISE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE'VE BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO COMPROMISE AND OFFER FAIRLY DRAMATIC, ENHANCED BUFFERING DRAINAGE, AND TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT, THAT WE'RE READY TO SPEAK WITH ZAP ABOUT MR. SMITH AND THEN BRADEN. YEAH, I MEAN, IN MY MIND, THIS IS A CASE WHERE CAME BEFORE 30 DAYS AGO, WE GAVE THEM 30 DAYS TO MEET, BEAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THEY MET WITH THEM SEVERAL TIMES. UH, SO THEY WENT OUT OF THE WAY THEY HAD MEETINGS, THE CITY HOSTED MEETINGS, UM, EVERYTHING WE'VE ASKED THE AFRICANS TO DO THE APP IS DONE, UM, AND I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THAT'S REALLY THE CASE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF TIME TO CONTINUE MEETING AND THAT WE'RE BETWEEN NOW CITY COUNCIL. UM, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME STEPS MOVING FORWARD. AND I GUESS TIME FOR THE PLAN IS TO MAKE IT UP THE WEIGH IN AND GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE PROJECT. OKAY. YEAH. UM, SO I WAS GOING TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WERE AWARE OF WHAT, UH, WENDY ROSE HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE JULY 29TH DATA BELIEFS THAT SHE'S QUOTED. CAUSE IF THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT BEING, YOU KNOW, PROBLEM WITH DELAYS, UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THEY WERE AWARE OF THAT THEY WOULD TRY TO GET IT SOONER? AND I WOULD ALSO HAVE WINDY ROADS, LIKE IF THEY WOULD, WHY IS TAKING, WHY THERE'S THE DELAY AND IF THERE WOULD BE POTENTIALLY CONSIDERED, UH, SOONER ON COUNCIL, I'D BE HAPPY TO, TO ANSWER THE LAST QUESTION, WHICH IS THAT THE NOTIFICATION [00:25:01] REQUIREMENTS FOR THE JUNE 10TH MEETING HAVE ALREADY PASSED AND THEN THE COUNCIL TAKES A SUMMER BREAK AND THEIR FIRST MEETING, UH, AFTER THE SUMMER BREAK IS THE 29TH OF JULY AND COMMISSIONER BRAY. I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COINCIDENCE OF WHEN THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING MIGHT BE FOR THIS CASE IS REALLY, UM, IT'S REALLY NOT A FACTOR. IT'S, IT'S THE POINT. UM, AS, UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH, UH, STATED, UH, WE, WE AGREED TO A 30 DAY DELAY AND WE'VE HAD TWO MEETINGS, UM, WITH DRAINAGE STAFF WE'VE, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE MULTIPLE RESPONSES AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME FOR THE LAND USE COMMISSION, DOES THAT TO WEIGH IN AND MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. AND I THINK YOU'D BE BASICALLY PENALIZING A DEVELOPER WHO'S BEEN, UH, AGREEING TO ALL KINDS OF ENHANCED BUFFERING, ET CETERA, BY, UM, FORCING ADDITIONAL DELAY, ADDITIONAL TIME. UM, AT THIS JUNCTURE, LIKE I SAID, OUR, OUR, OUR DOOR IS OPEN AND WE CAN WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE DIALOGUE AS WE PROCEED TO, UH, TO A COUNCIL. I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH THAT THIS IS THE LITERALLY THE MOST FULLY DEVELOPED, ROBUST ZONING CASE THAT I'VE EVER HANDLED IN MY CAREER, UH, AND BROUGHT TO THE ZAP COMMISSION. OKAY. WE HAVE DINKLER THEN KING, THEN KIELBASA, THEN THOMPSON YOU'RE ON MUTE. THANKS, MOM. I'M SORRY. MADAM CHAIR. UM, I, UH, APPRECIATE, UM, MR. HARTMAN'S COMMENT, BUT WHEN I'M HEARING FROM A JS AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT, UM, YOU'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE STAFF PARTICULARLY HAS HELD A MEETING JUST LAST WEEK ABOUT DRAINAGE WITH THE IMMEDIATE, UM, NEIGHBORS, UH, AND THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS HAVE SOME STRONG, UM, RIGHTS HERE. UM, I'M NOT, UM, CONVINCED THAT A DELAY WOULD HURT YOU, UH, FOR TWO WEEKS TO, UH, NAIL DOWN THOSE PARTICULARS AND GIVE COUNSEL A REAL SENSE OF WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD STANDS ON THIS ISSUE. THE OTHER THING I'VE NOTICED IS WHEN I PULLED UP, UH, THE AGENDA TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY NOTICE OF THE POSTPONEMENT IN THE BACKUP, EVEN THOUGH THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST WAS MADE TIMELY, IT WASN'T, UH, WASN'T PUT UP. UM, SO I'M REALLY WONDERING IF WE'RE CONSISTENT IN OUR, OUR, OUR PROCESSES, BUT, UM, I'M INCLINED AND WANT TO HEAR FROM MY OTHER COLLEAGUES, BUT I'M INCLINED TO, UH, SUPPORT A POST-MOMENT JUST FOR TWO WEEKS. OKAY. COMMISSIONER KING. YES. THANK YOU, CHAIR. AND, AND, UH, YES, I, I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE, UH, APPLICANTS DEVELOPER HAVE DONE WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS PROJECT. AND, BUT IT IS PRETTY COMPLICATED WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP HERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S FAIRLY COMPLICATED WHAT THEY'RE DOING HERE, AND, UH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A COMPLICATED LOT TOO. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT COMPLEXITY MAY NEED MORE TIME TO REALLY UNDERSTAND AND DEAL WITH. SO, AND THEN WHEN I LOOK AT THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY THE, THE TWO WEEKS WOULD NOT AFFECT THEIR SCHEDULE WITH COUNCIL, BUT I THINK IT WOULD, WOULD HELP INFORM, UH, THE WORK THAT WE WOULD DO NEXT ON OUR NEXT MEETING ON THIS CASE, IF IT WERE TO BE POSTPONE, IT WOULD BE, I THINK WE COULD, WE WOULD HAVE AN EVEN BETTER CASE THAN WE HAVE. AND I DO APPRECIATE AGAIN, THAT, UH, THE DEVELOPER AND THE APPLICANT ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, LISTEN TO THE NEIGHBORS. AND IN THIS CASE, I JUST SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TWO MORE WEEKS TO, TO GET SOME MORE INPUT, TO, TO MAKE THE PRODUCT TO THE ZONING CASE, EVEN BETTER FOR EVERYBODY. AND THEN ONCE THIS IS DONE, THIS IS, THIS IS DONE. WE WON'T BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND FIX ANYTHING AGAIN. SO I SUPPORT THE TWO WEEK REQUESTS IN THIS CASE, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO HELP MAKE A BETTER PRODUCT AND, AND, AND HELP MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO GIVE THEIR INPUT IN THE PROCESS. THANK YOU. OKAY. COMMISSIONER KIELBASA AND THEN THOMPSON. UM, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THE APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPER HAVE DONE, AND I REALLY LIKED THE IDEA OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT'S ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE REASONS I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF A POSTPONEMENT IS TO JUST NAIL DOWN MORE DETAILS ON THE MANAGEMENT OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YOU JUST DON'T AUTOMATICALLY JUST SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 10% OF OUR HOUSE OR HOUSING BE 80% [00:30:01] MFI, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY AND I'VE HAD A PLEASANT EMAIL EXCHANGE WITH THE DEVELOPER AND, UM, ABOUT THAT. AND THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS FOR THAT. AND ALSO, BUT I JUST LIKE TO NAIL DOWN SOME OF THESE THINGS. AND OF COURSE, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT I LIKE WIN-WINS. AND TO POSSIBLY EVEN SEE THAT EVERYBODY'S HOLDING HANDS AND SINGING KUMBAYA, AND ALSO WE NEED, UM, IT BE GOOD TO SEE THE RC WRITTEN OUT, UM, THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, AND ALSO FROM WENDY AND I HAD CALLED HER EARLIER TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THIS. AND IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S POSSIBLE FOR BREAKTHROUGH. SOME ALWAYS GOOD ON THAT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HOLDING UP WHEN THIS IS GOING BEFORE COUNCIL. SO THOSE ARE MY REASONS FOR SUPPORTING A POSTPONEMENT. AND I DO APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER WORKING ON DRAINAGE AND ALL THAT TOO. BUT I KNOW IT'S A, IT, IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S, IT'S NOT OUR COOKIE CUTTER CASE. SO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. I ACTUALLY LOWERED MY HAND, BUT I CAN, UH, GO AHEAD AND JUST, UM, AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO EXPLAIN TO ME A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE, OF THE DELAY. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED SINCE THE CASE ISN'T COMING BEFORE COUNCIL FOR SUCH A TIME, HOW THIS WOULD BE IMPACTING YOUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS THAT YOU MENTIONED. YEAH, THIS IS MAC MAC AT THE APPLICANT AGAIN. SO AS IT RELATES TO WHAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, WE HAVE 90% COMPLETE DRAINAGE PLANS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT IT IN A SENSE OF WHAT YOU HAD SUBMITTED, A DESIGN CASE I'M TALKING ABOUT IN THE FORM OF A SITE PLAN, MORE, MORE ROBUST RANGE PLANS. THEN, THEN, THEN WE, WE CAN'T ADVANCE THEM ANY FURTHER THAN THEY ARE. AND THEY HAVE BEEN, THEY HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED WITH DRAINAGE STAFF AND, AND RESIDENTS ON THE PHONE. SO I WANT, I WANT TO PREFACE WITH WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. I JUST, I, I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THE FACT THAT THERE HAS BEEN DAILY OPEN DIALOGUE WITH, FOR FORMAL MEETINGS, WITH THESE, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS, AS IT RELATES TO THE ISSUES THAT, THAT WE HAVE WITH IT. WE HAVE TO PET WHERE, BECAUSE OF THE POSTPONEMENT AND BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTIES IN MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOOD EARLY ON AT THE ONSET, AND THE FACT THAT WE'VE HAD FOUR OF THESE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, PUSH BACK, BUT HAPPENING, NONETHELESS, WE'RE HAVING DO, WE'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH MONTHLY EXTENSIONS ON OUR PURCHASE CONTRACT AND THOSE EXTENSIONS COME AT A PRICE. AND SO WE WOULD BE GOING INTO, WE WOULD BE GOING BEFORE COUNCIL AND ZAP AT DATES THAT, THAT FALL AFTER EXTENSION DATE. SO WE'LL BE GOING IN BLIND MAKING THESE EXTENSION PAINTER. AND CAN I ASK, UH, THE OUTCOME OF THE MEETING LAST WEEK OR THE MOST RECENT MEETING? WERE THERE ANY COMMITMENTS MADE TO THE NEIGHBORS AT THAT MEETING OR YEAH. SAY THAT NO, THE DRAINAGE ITEMS AND THE TRANSPORTATION STATION ITEMS WERE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY INTRODUCED, UH, IN SOME DETAIL ON THE APRIL 20TH MEETING, WHEN WE AGREED TO THE ONE MONTH POSTPONEMENT AT THAT MEETING, I OFFERED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY HAVE ADDITIONAL DIALOGUE WITH DRAINAGE STAFF PRESENT AS IT IS AS AN IDEA THAT THE DEVELOPER AND I OFFERED, WHICH WE HAD THAT MEETING AND HAD THAT REVIEW ON MAY 10TH. UH, AGAIN, THE MAY 14TH MEETING WAS NO NEW INFORMATION OTHER THAN CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, BASICALLY. SO THERE'S BEEN NO NEW INFORMATION PRESENTED THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS TO DIGEST IF ANYTHING REALLY WHAT'S TRANSPIRED. UM, SINCE THAT TIME IS, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF FOLKS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY AGREE TO SUPPORT OUR PROJECT. SO THEY'RE NOT ON THE PHONE TONIGHT TO ASK FOR SUPPORT AND THAT'S TO HEAR IT TONIGHT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. I SEE COMMISSIONER RAY, AND THEN WE'LL DO KING KIELBASA. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, SO I SUPPORT HEARING THIS CASE TONIGHT, UM, WHERE THE LAND USE COMMISSION WE'VE RECEIVED THE INFORMATION TO WEIGH THE CASE. UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DEVELOPER AND APPLICANT HAVE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. UM, AND REALLY, WE JUST NEED TO DO THE THING THAT WE'RE HERE TO DO. IS THAT JUST A BIT, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE TO NECESSARILY GET LIKE A UNIFIED NEIGHBORHOOD VOICE IN ORDER TO HEAR A CASE. AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW, CASES ARE GOING TO BE CONTENTIOUS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HEARING THEM. UM, SO I CAN'T SUPPORT POSTPONEMENT TONIGHT. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO GO AHEAD WITH THAT [00:35:01] VICE CHAIR KIELBASA. I'LL JUST REITERATE FIRST OFF. I DIDN'T, I'M SORT OF SURPRISED THAT WE'RE NOT THE FINAL ARBITRARY, BUT THE COUNCIL IS. AND SO I WAS SURPRISED TO HEAR THE AGENT OR THE DEVELOPER SAY THAT THEY NEEDED TO, THAT THEY'RE THERE. THEY'VE GOT TO DO THESE PAYMENTS OR WHATEVER. HE SAID EXACTLY HOW I PUT IT BECAUSE NOTHING HAS BEEN DECIDED YET. AND IT'S REALLY NOT EVEN US. WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, WE DON'T DECIDE ANYTHING. AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE JUNE, JULY 29TH IS COUNCIL HEARING IS WHEN YOU ACTUALLY GET YOUR ZONING. SO IT, I DON'T SEE AND ARE HEARING THIS CASE IN TWO WEEKS. ISN'T REALLY GOING TO HEAR IT. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER RAY THAT WE'RE HERE TO, UM, MAKE DECISIONS, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE FOR COUNCIL IF WE CAN JUST HAVE A FEW MORE DEAL DETAILS NAILED DOWN. AND THEN, UM, AND IT WOULD PROBABLY, I THINK RESULT IN A, MAYBE A MORE FAVORABLE VOTE TOWARDS ON THIS, BUT IF IT'S, IF IT'S SORT OF CONTENTIOUS NOW, THEN IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO SERVE ANYBODY WELL, BUT IF THINGS, MORE THINGS ARE WORKED OUT, I THINK IT SERVES EVERYBODY WELL. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING THE POSTPONEMENT. OH, YOU'RE ON MUTE. SORRY. I WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT COLOR WAS IT, COMMISSIONER CABALS JUST SAID, IF IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO THEM, UM, IT, IT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TIME BETWEEN ZAP AND COUNCIL, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE PAYMENTS, IF THAT MAKES, IF ZAP APPROVING, IT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF THOSE PAYMENTS OR ANY OTHER FACTORS THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH. UM, IF HAVING MORE TIME BETWEEN COUNCIL AND, UH, ZAP IS BENEFICIAL IN ANY WAY, OR IF IT, UH, IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE COUNCIL APPROVING, DOES THAT, DOES THAT VOTE? AND DOES THAT VOTE INFORMS US OF OUR DECISION WHEN WE'RE REQUIRED TO MAKE EXTENSION PAYMENTS? THAT'S WHAT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT COMES FROM THIS. AS WE HAVE THE DIALOGUE AT ZAP THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, ALREADY, AND, AND, AND, AND WE GET TO TAKE FROM THAT WE LEARNED FROM ZAP AND, AND ARE ABLE TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION WITH OUR, WITH OUR EXTENSION PAYMENTS. AND I JUST ADD THAT THE, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND AND, AND ACKNOWLEDGE FULLY THAT THE ULTIMATE DECISION RESTS WITH CITY COUNCIL. AND SO THESE, THESE ARE A COUPLE OF THESE EXTENSIONS WEREN'T INEVITABILITY, BUT THE EXTENT OF THEM, UH, WERE NOT. AND THEY'RE THE RESULT OF IT BEING UNDERSTANDABLY DIFFICULT TO GET ALL OF THE PARTIES IN THE ROOM AT THE, UH, THE, UH, OVER THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT WE'VE ATTEMPTED, I'M STILL PLEASED. AND, AND, AND DELIGHTED TO SAY THAT WE'VE MET FOUR TIMES, ESPECIALLY SINCE TWO OF THOSE INCLUDED STAFF, UM, ONE WITH SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTAL STAFF, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL THE SAME IT'S THESE THESE EFFORTS HAVE, HAVE, HAVE, HAVE, HAS TAKEN US A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME ALREADY NEGATIVE TO THAT, WHERE WE SIT TODAY, CONTRACTUALLY POSITIVE TO THAT, HOW FULLY BAKED WE ARE IN TERMS OF OUR DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? THE, OH, I'M SORRY. THAT'S ALWAYS MADE IT, BUT I WILL SAY THAT I DON'T FEEL SUPPORT PLUS MINE AT THIS POINT. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THOROUGH, LIKE LOOKING AT THE CASE, UH, IT'S LOOKS VERY THOROUGHLY, CONSIDERED ALREADY FAR MORE THOROUGHLY CONSIDERED THE MOST THINGS THAT COME BEFORE US. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF THAT, I THINK IF THERE WAS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT, UH, WITH, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OPPOSED AND THE APPLICANT THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD NOT BE ASKING FOR, IT WOULD BE ABLE TO THEM IN A CERTAIN SITUATION. SO, UM, I I'M JUST INCLINED TO, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'VE DONE FAR MORE THAN MOST, ALMOST ANY OTHER CASE THAT I'VE HEARD IN TERMS OR MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO I DON'T SEE A REASON TO POSTPONE IT AT THIS POINT ELSE HAVE FEEDBACK. I DON'T SEE ANY MORE HANDS RAISED. I SEE, UM, OCEAN, OR LET ME GUESS, I MAKE SURE , BUT ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, TO, UM, HEAR THE CASE TONIGHT. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. GO AHEAD. SURE. UH, THE, THE, THE MOTION WAS EFFECTIVELY TWO KNOTS. [00:40:01] WHAT THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST IS THAT, THAT IS THAT THE, OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER DINKLER, UM, I'M GOING TO MOVE A SUBSTITUTE TO POSTPONE UNTIL JUNE 1ST, UM, EVEN WITH THE CONTRACT EXTENSIONS, WHICH I THINK GIVEN THE NEED FOR MORE APARTMENTS, I SUSPECT THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE NO ISSUE GETTING THEM. AND THE CASE STILL IS HEARD, UH, ON, UM, JULY 23RD. AND FRANKLY, I WOULD THINK HE WOULD WANT TO HAVE THE IMMEDIATE, HIS MONEY AT THOSE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS SUPPORT AS HE CAN GET, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT COULD AFFECT HIS CONTRACT EXTENSIONS TOO. SO I MOVE THAT. WE GRANT THE POSTPONEMENT UNTIL, UM, JUNE 1ST, UM, THAT CONTRACT EXTENSION, SORRY, POSTPONEMENT, UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KING. OR DID YOU ALSO HAVE A COMMENT? OKAY. NO, I'M SECONDING THAT MOTION, THAT SUBSTITUTE MOTION. THANK YOU. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS SUBSTITUTE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL THOSE OPPOSED TO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. OKAY. AND I'M ABSTAINING BECAUSE I CAN'T DECIDE. SORRY. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THE CASE, I BELIEVE. OKAY. WELL NOW YOU HAVE TO GO BACK. WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND WE'LL VOTE ON THE SECOND MOTION, WHICH IS TO NOT POSTPONE. UM, SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO CLEAR THE CASE THIS EVENING TO NOT POSTPONE THE CASE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND THAT'S, AND THEN, UH, THOSE ARE POSTED EMOTION. SORRY FOR LAUGHING. I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN AGAIN. SO IT'S THE OPPOSITE, RIGHT? AND WHAT DO WE DO? DO WE, WE HEAR IT. OKAY. YES. WELL, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. YES. YOU'RE HERE THE CASE TONIGHT. OKAY, GREAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO HEAR IT RIGHT NOW. HOW THIS WORKS CHAIR COMMISSION LAYS ON INVERT. IF HE WANTS YOU TO GET IT BACK IN ORDER, YOU CAN HEAR B2 AND THEN COME BACK TO B3. YEAH. OKAY. LET'S DO THAT THEN. SO I WILL PASS THE FIGURATIVE BALL [B2. Zoning and Rezoning: C814-04-0187.02.SH - Goodnight Ranch PUD - 2nd Amendment; District 2] OVER TO SHANNON OR VICE CHAIR. TABATHA. YES. OH, COMMISSIONER BRACE. YEAH. DON'T WE DO. WE USUALLY HEAR ALL THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY FIRST BEFORE CONSIDERING ANY CASES. YES. SO USUALLY IT'S THE STAFF PRESENTATION AND THEN THE APP BLOOD KIN AND THEN, AND THEN, AND THEN AGAINST, AND THEN REBUTTAL THINKING OF COUNCIL MEETINGS. I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS WENDY RHODES WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS IS THE GOOD NIGHT RANCH PUD AMENDMENT. IT IS THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN BOUNDED BY KNUCKLES CROSSING TO THE NORTH VERTEX BOULEVARD AND AN AISD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THAT'S OPERATIONAL AND A MIDDLE SCHOOL. THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THERE IS OLD LOCKHART ROAD TO THE SOUTH AND OLD HART LOAD LOCKHART ROAD IN SOUTH FLORIDA VALLEY ROAD TO THE WET. UH, THERE IS A RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED SEGMENT OF EAST SLAUGHTER LANE THAT BISECTS THIS PROPERTY AND CONTINUES TO FAXED AND ROAD GOOD NET RANCH. PUD IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT PROVIDES A RANGE OF RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL AND CIVIC USES AND OPEN SPACE INTO AN INTEGRATED, INTO A PLANNED COMMUNITY. UH, DEVELOPMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SLAUGHTER LANE INCLUDES RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS APARTMENTS, THE SCHOOLS AND AMENITIES CENTER, PARKS AND PAWNS. UH, THE MAJORITY OF LAND SOUTH OF SLAUGHTER LANE IS UNDEVELOPED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF APARTMENTS THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SLAUGHTER AND OLD LOCKHART ROAD. UH, JUST FOR CONTEXT, THE OLD CREEK, THE ONION METRO PARK, AND IT'S SINGLE FAMILY. RESIDENTIAL IS TO THE NORTH OF THIS. THE PUD HAS FIVE RESIDENTS, FIVE DEVELOPMENT AREAS. THESE ARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE AREA. THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE VERTICAL AREA, UH, THE MIXED RESIDENTIAL AREA, THE PARK DISTRICT, AND OPEN SPACE. UH, THIS PARTICULAR PUD AMENDMENT COVERS THE ENTIRE ORIGINAL PUD PLUS A 6.6 ACRE PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED ISF [00:45:01] TWO ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SLAUGHTER LANE THAT IS NOW OWNED BY THE APPLICANT. AND THIS PUD AMENDMENT WOULD INCREASE THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UH, FROM APPROXIMATELY 3,500 TO APPROXIMATELY 6,300 AND WILL ALLOW FOR 635,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE USES. AND IT WOULD PROVIDE FOR EIGHT 64 ACRE, UH, AISD SITE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, WHICH IS INTENDED FOR A HIGH SCHOOL. THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE OPEN SPACE HAS INCREASED TO 129 ACRES. AND THIS PD ALSO AMENDMENT ALSO IDENTIFIES A FIRE STATION SITE, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PD. IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE 15,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL, UH, CIVIC USES THAT WERE APPROVED WHEN THIS, UH, PD WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 2006. UH, THIS CASE HAS ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE, UH, PARKS BOARD, WHICH RECOMMENDED IT AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION. MORE RECENTLY IN JANUARY, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT WILL PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF 129 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE. IT WILL LIMIT IMPERVIOUS COVER TO 67% OF THE GROSS SIDE AREA. IT WILL RECONSTRUCT THAT CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION CONSTRUCTION PLAN AND RESTORE CREEK AND WETLAND BUFFERS. UH, SO THE INQUIRY, THE AMENDMENT INCREASES THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS AND COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND OFFICE SQUARE FOOTAGE WITHIN THE PUD. IT PROVIDES A GREATER RANGE OF HOUSING CHOICES AND SUPPORT SERVICES FOR THE COMMUNITY AND RESULTS IN MORE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED. UH, THE DENSITY WILL BE THAT IS ADDED HERE WILL BE OFFSET BY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE OPEN SPACE AREAS. UH, MOST OF THE IMPACTS WILL BE TO THE UNDEVELOPED LAND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SLAUGHTER LANE. AND, UH, THIS PD ALSO SUPPORTS AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES BY INCLUDING NEW HOUSING TYPES, AS WELL AS REVISED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND A REVISED STREET AND SITE LAYOUT DOES PROVIDE A NEW DENSER WALKABLE AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SLAUGHTER LANE. UH, A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS COMPLETED FOR THIS PUD AMENDMENT AND IT PROVIDES IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL DENSITY, INCLUDING FUNDING FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. TURNING LANE CONSTRUCTION ALWAYS STOPPED INSTALLATION A SIDEWALK AND INTERSECTION CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS. SO THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR A PUD AMENDMENT AS OUTLINED IN THE ATTACHED EXHIBITS. AND, UH, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION DID LOOK AT THIS AND HAD AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION REGARDING DARK SKIES, AND THAT HAS ALSO BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE APPLICANT'S DESIGN GUIDELINES. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR WENDY AND FOR THE, FOR THE COMMISSION. UM, I DIDN'T, I WA W DID ANY COMMISSIONER PULLED THIS CASE? AND I ASKED THAT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY SPEAKER SIGNED UP AGAINST, AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE BACKUP OR ANYTHING ABOUT ANY QUESTIONS. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, AND MAYBE WENDY OR ANDREW, OR ANY COMMISSIONER WHO PULLED IT, I MEAN, IT'S FINE IF YOU PULLED IT. I WAS JUST WONDERING, OKAY. I, THIS IS WHEN THE, AGAIN, I DID RECEIVE, UM, SOME WRITTEN OPPOSITION AND THAT HAS BEEN POSTED TO THE WEBSITE. I DID INVITE THE, UH, SPEAKERS WHO ARE THE, UH, THE PERSONS WHO CORRESPONDED WITH ME TO THE MEETING AND I GUESS WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THEY WOULD REGISTER TO SPEAK. OKAY. OH, OKAY. THANKS. UH, COMMISSIONER KING. YES. VICE-CHAIR. I JUST, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. I KNOW WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY THERE YET, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. YES, YES. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS CASE. OKAY, GREAT. I WAS JUST WONDERING, OKAY, THANKS. OKAY. AND THANK YOU, WENDY, FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ASK AND ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS. AND WE DO, WE HAVE SPEAKERS SIGNED UP AND IT IS, UM, THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S AGENT. AND I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE ALICE GLASGOW, CHAIR, COMMISSION LIAISON, AND FOR A ROLE HERE FOR MS. GLIP GROUP FOR SIX MINUTES. OKAY, THANKS. HELLO. MY NAME IS MYRA GAP, AND I'M REALLY GOING TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALEC TODAY. I, UH, I AM WITH AUSTIN, GOODNIGHT RANCH. WE ARE THE APPLICANT AND IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A GOOD [00:50:01] NIGHT OF FAMILY, WE ARE REQUESTING CHANGES TO THE GOOD NIGHT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THE INTENT IS TO UPDATE AND IMPROVE THE ORDINANCE TO BETTER SERVE. AUSTIN NEEDS AS AUNT WENDY STATED, I'M HOPING TO DETAIL HOW WE ARE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS THROUGH INCREASING AUSTIN'S HOUSING, SUPPLY NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND EMPLOYMENT OPTIONS. WHILE KEEPING IN MIND THE IMPORTANCE OF TRANSPORTATION, PARKLAND, THAT'S THE ENVIRONMENT AND EDUCATION COUNCIL ADOPTED THE IMAGINATIVE PLAN TO FISCALLY AND SUSTAINABLY GUIDE THE GROWTH OF AUSTIN. THE CHANGES WE ARE PROPOSING ARE ALIGNED WITH THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN. THE IMAGINE, HONESTLY, VISION STATEMENTS DESCRIBES THAT OUR CITY WILL BE A CITY OF COMPLETE COMMUNITIES THAT IS NATURAL AND SUSTAINABLE, PROSPEROUS, LIVABLE, MOBILE, INTERCONNECTED, EDUCATED, CREATIVE, AND THAT VALUES AND RESPECTS. ALL AUSTINITES IN SHORT STAFF IS SUMMARIZED THAT OUR PROPOSED CHANGES ALLOW FOR A BALANCED, MIXED USE NORTH AND SOUTH OF SLAUGHTER LANE. ADDITIONALLY, THESE CHANGES WILL CREATE A COMMUNITY THAT PROMOTES A LIVE WORK, PLAY ENVIRONMENT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY TO MOVE PROMOTES DEVELOPMENT AND COMPACT CENTERS OR ALONG CORRIDORS THAT ARE CONNECTED BY ROADS AND TRANSIT, WHICH ARE DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE WALKING BICYCLING AND TO REDUCE HEALTHCARE HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION COSTS AS A COMPARISON, MUELLER AND GOODNIGHT ARE APPROXIMATELY 700 ACRES. AND YET MUELLER HAS A HIGHER RESIDENTIAL ALLOWANCE OF 7,790 HOMES AND 5.8 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE. WE ARE PROPOSING TO PROVIDE LESS DENSITY AT 6,308 HOMES AND MUCH LESS COMMERCIAL SPACE, BUT A BROAD DIVERSIFICATION OF RENTAL AND OWNERSHIP OPTIONS. THIS DIVERSIFICATION ALLOWS FOR A RANGE OF PRICE POINTS WITHIN AN AREA THAT IS LOCATED FIVE MILES FROM THE AIRPORT, AND LESS THAN 10 MILES FROM DOWNTOWN IN 2018. OUR C ELKO STUDIED IN AUSTIN. THAT'S 36% OF ALL JOBS ARE LOCATED WITHIN A FIVE MILE WITHIN FIVE MILES OF THE CITY CENTER. 43 OF ALL OFFICE JOBS ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE FIVE MILES, BUT THESE JOBS ARE CONCENTRATED IN LESS THAN 2% OF THE LAND AND FIVE COUNTY METRO AREA. MEANING EMPLOYMENT IS NOT CLOSE TO WHERE WE LIVE AND STRAINING OFTEN AUSTIN'S TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, NO WONDER AUSTIN BOARD OF REALTORS STATES THAT THE MEDIAN HOME PRICE WITHIN THE CITY IS UP 24.3% TO 491, $191,000 WAS ONLY A THREE WEEKS HOUSING SUPPLY. WE NEED HOUSING IN AUSTIN. GOOD LIGHT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD HOUSING WITH THE CO WITHIN THE COURT AT A REASONABLE PRICE TO HELP LEVEL OFF THE LOGARITHMIC CURVE OF ESCALATING HOME PRICES DUE TO HIGH SINGLE FAMILY, HOME PRICES AND WAGES REMAINING, RELATIVELY FLAT. WE ARE PROJECTING THAT 70 TO 80% OF OUR FUTURE HOUSEHOLDS WILL RENT INCREASING THE NUMBER AND TYPE OF HOUSING IS ONE TOOL TO HELP STABILIZE INCREASING HOUSING COSTS. THIS COMBINED WITH CREATING A COMPACT AND COMPLETE COMMUNITY SHOULD ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING WITH AN INCREASE TO INCREASE TO LAND INCREASED WITHOUT INCREASING IMPERVIOUS COVER. IN ADDITION TO LOOKING AT THE SUPPLY SIDE, GOODNIGHT HAS BEEN A VOLUNTEER PARTICIPANT IN THE SMART HOUSING PROGRAM TODAY. THE COMMUNITY HAS FAMILY OR USE IT AGE IN AGE RESTRICTED RENTAL OPTIONS FOR THOSE EARNING BETWEEN 65 TO 80% OF OUR MSI, OUR AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO EXTEND THAT AFFORDABILITY TO HOME OWNERSHIP, LOOKING AT EMPLOYMENT, WE ARE PROPOSING TO INCREASE COMMERCIAL RETAIL AND APPOINTMENT AND CIVIC SPACE TO 635,000 SQUARE FEET BY ADDING EMPLOYMENT CAMPUS ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND HOUSING. WE PROMOTE FOLKS TO BECOME LESS AUTO CENTRIC AND MORE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, THUS REDUCING THE PRESSURE ON AUSTIN ROADS, WHICH LEADS US TO TRANSPORTATION. THE PUT ALREADY ADDRESSES A MULTIMODAL AND INTEGRATED TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. THESE ASSETS HAVE BEEN RE-IMAGINED TO CREATE A HIGHER FUNCTIONING TRANSPORTATION PLAN. THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED BY A NEW STREET SECTION, MORE PUBLIC TRAILS, REVISED STREET LAYOUTS WITH MORE CONNECTIONS AND SIGNIFICANT MITIGATED MITIGATED MEASURES, SUCH AS TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND DEDICATED TURNING LANES FOR PARK LINES. WE ARE PROPOSING AN INCREASE TO MORE THAN 120 ACRES OF PUBLIC OPEN SPACE IN PARKLAND. IN 2013, THE BILL WAS APPROVED BY THE HOUSE LEGISLATOR THAT CREATED THE ONION CREEK METRO PARK DISTRICT. THE INTENTS OF THIS DEBT TAXING DISTRICT IS TO CREATE A QUALITY PUBLIC OPEN SPACE, STREETSCAPES AND PARKLAND. THAT IS WELL-MAINTAINED THE AD VALOREM TAX GENERATED WITHIN GOODNIGHT PROVIDES OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE AND FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE CITY OWNED 555 ACRE METROPOLITAN PARK AND THE PUBLIC SPACE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. THE DISTRICT WILL ULTIMATELY GENERATE MILLIONS OF OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE DOLLARS FOR PUBLIC SPACE TO NURTURE THE ENVIRONMENT. WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF TO PRESERVE OPEN SPACE, WATER QUALITY CREATED IN THE COMMUNITY. THIS INCLUDES REGIONAL WATER QUALITY EXTENSION FACILITIES. IN ADDITION, A THOUGHTFUL PLAN WAS CONCEIVED TO ENHANCE THE REMAINDER OF THE COMMUNITY IN LINE WITH CURRENT CODE. THE LAND PLAN WAS REDESIGNED TO PRESERVE AREAS WITH [00:55:01] SIGNIFICANT TOPOGRAPHY, MEANING AREAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED FOR FULL DEVELOPMENT ARE NOW PRESERVED HILLTOPS FOR ALL TO ENJOY THIS PRESERVATION SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCES EARTH DISTURBANCE WHILE RETAINING QUALITY SETBACKS FROM DRAINAGE RES GREAT EDUCATION. GOODNIGHT HAS BECOME HOME TO THREE AISD SCHOOL SITES. OVER 113 ACRES ARE DEDICATED TO PUBLIC EDUCATION AT THE ELEMENTARY INTERMEDIATE AND HIGH SCHOOL LEVELS. THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL ALLOW STUDENTS TO WALK TO ALL THREE LEVELS OF EDUCATION FURTHER, AND EDUCATION FUND HAS BEEN CREATED TO HELP SUPPORT EDUCATIONAL NEEDS SUCH AS TUTORING AND ENHANCED CLASSROOM SPACE OR EQUIPMENT FOR THE GOOD NIGHT RESIDENTS IN THE END, THE COMMON THEME FOR ALL THE FOLKS THAT HAVE WORKED ON THIS PROPOSAL OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS IS A BELIEF THAT YOU SHOULD LEAVE IT BETTER THAN YOU FOUND IT. THIS IS THE GOOD NIGHT STORY. WE HOPE THE COMMISSION WILL RECOMMEND THESE CHANGES FOR APPROVAL AS WE HAVE FULL STAFF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, NEXT, SO IS MS. GLASGOW GOING TO SPEAK AND IF NOT, WE, UM, I CAN'T BELIEVE I SAID THAT MS. GLASGOW, UM, ALICE I'M HERE. I'M ON STANDBY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. UM, MYRA GAP JUST PRESENTED EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW, AND WE'RE HERE TO HELP ANSWER THE QUESTION. OKAY, GREAT. THANKS. AND THEN IS FOR REESE, UH, BOOSHIE, UM, IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. AND ARE YOU THERE AND DO YOU WISH TO STILL SPEAK AND IF SO, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. YES. HELLO. MY NAME IS FERRIS BOOSHIE. I'M WITH, UH, LAND UP CONSULTING OR LDC WHERE THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT AND I AM, UH, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT AND WANTED TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE STEVEN SPEARS TO ASSIGN UP TO SPEAK AND YOU WILL ALSO HAVE IN FAVOR AND YOU WILL ALSO HAVE THREE MINUTES. AND THEN NEXT IS KATHY MILLER. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S STEVEN SPHERES. UH, I LIVE AT 4,001 CAMACHO STREET, UH, IN AUSTIN. UM, I'M THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNER AND AN INDUCTED NATIONAL FELLOW AND TO THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS. I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT IN FAVOR OF THE GOODNIGHT RANCH, PUD AMENDMENT. UH, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, OUR METROPOLITAN AREA GREW OVER 180 PEOPLE PER DAY. UM, AND TO ECHO WHAT, UH, MYRA HAD BRIEFLY MENTIONED, UM, APPROXIMATELY A THIRD OF OUR JOBS OR OF THE ENTIRE METROPOLITAN AREA ARE LOCATED WITHIN FIVE MILES OF DOWNTOWN AUSTIN. AND SO THIS AMENDMENT, UH, PROVIDES SIGNIFICANTLY MORE HOUSING OPTIONS AT A VARIETY OF ATTAINABLE AND COM LEVELS, UH, AND ALSO NEAR TRANSIT. SO THAT IN MIND, I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE PDM AND THE SEAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN KATHY MILLER, ARE YOU THERE? AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. MS. MILLER, IF YOU'LL SELECT STAR SIX, IF YOU'RE WE HEARD YOU PLEASED HAPPY SMITH. I'M NOT SURE IF WE HAD A NAME CHANGE NEXT UP, BUT I'M THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER. I DID SIGN UP IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT ANSWER QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND KATHY SMITH. OKAY. THANKS. AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL THE PEOPLE SIGNED UP AND SO WE CAN HAVE A MOTION CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, AND DO WHAT WE WANT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER DINKLER OKAY. THERE WE GO. I MOVED TO CLOSE THE HEARING. SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IN A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER OR KOSTA, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. [01:00:01] IT IS UNANIMOUS. AND SO THE MOTION PASSES AND NOW, UM, IF YOU WANT TO HIT THE LITTLE ICON TO RAISE YOUR HANDS, OH, COMMISSIONER KING. I WILL GO TO YOU FIRST SINCE, UM, WE HAD ALREADY ASCERTAINED THAT YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UH, YES, I DID HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. UM, AND, UH, MY QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR IS A COMPONENT OF THIS. AND, UH, BUT I WAS TRYING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO I WONDER IF THE, UH, APPLICANT COULD, COULD, UH, OR DEVELOPER COULD PLEASE, UH, LET ME KNOW THE TOTAL NUMBER OF RESOLUTE RESIDENTIAL UNITS FOR RENT BEFORE THE AMENDMENT AND AFTER THE AMENDMENT AND THE TOTAL NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS FOR SALE BEFORE THE AMENDMENT AND AFTER THE AMENDMENT, IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO DETERMINE THESE, THESE DIFF THESE NUMBERS, UH, WITH THE DATA AND THE BACKUP. AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN, BECAUSE ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS THAT, UH, I BELIEVE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN THREE UNITS TOTAL THAT HAVE BEEN, THAT HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR, UH, FAMILIES AREN'T YET BETWEEN 65 AND 80% MEDIAN, FAMILY INCOME, THREE RENTAL UNITS. AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT THERE ARE THREE, BUT WHEN I SEE THREE AGAINST NUMBERS OF, YOU KNOW, 2,500 UNITS OR 3,500, WHATEVER THE TOTAL NUMBER IS GOING TO BE, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE CONTEXT. SO WHAT I REALLY LOOKING FOR IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE, UH, FOR RENT BEFORE AND AFTER THE AMENDMENT, THAT PULL NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR SALE BEFORE AND AFTER THE AMENDMENT AMENDMENT. AND HOW MANY OF THOSE RENTAL AND, UH, AND, AND FOR SALE UNITS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR, UH, LOW-INCOME FAMILIES EARNING 65%, UH, 60% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME OR BELOW. AND THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE CENSUS TRACK AROUND THIS AREA HERE, THE FAMILIES THAT LIVE THERE, 80% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, IS NOT GOING TO SERVE THOSE FAMILIES THAT ARE THERE. NOW, IT WILL NOT SERVE THEM. AND SO I, AND SO I, I, IN A WAY, I'M GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THIS AFFORDABILITY AND BRINGING AFFORDABILITY IN, BUT WE NEED TO GET THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE, OF THE CONTEXT OF THAT AFFORDABILITY. IT, THE, IF YOU LOOK AT 80% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, AS, AS THE THRESHOLD, OR EVEN 65%, THAT'S GOING TO LEAVE OUT MOST OF THE BLACK AND LATINO FAMILIES IN AUSTIN, THEY WILL NOT, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD EVEN 65% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME. AND SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT PROJECT, HOW THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS GOING TO HELP THE FAMILIES THAT LIVE IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA AND HELP LOW AND VERY LOW INCOME FAMILIES. I I'M, I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED THAT I CAN'T GET THAT KIND OF INFORMATION, DESPITE ALL THE BACKUP THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THIS CASE. AND, AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AS I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THAT THE SMART HOUSING PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED. SO THE OTHER ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS AS HOW MANY OF THOSE UNITS ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE, ARE GOING TO UTILIZE THE, THE INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS ARE GOING TO UTILIZE LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT FINANCING. SO THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KING, AND WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO ON THE, UH, ON THE APPLICANT SIDE TO ANSWER THAT, HELLO, THIS IS MY RIGHT DEATH AND APPLICANT, UH, DEVELOPER OF AUSTIN, GOODNIGHT RANCH. UH, I'M HOPING THAT I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. SO TODAY THERE'S ABOUT THREE 1300 RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT EXIST IN THE NORTH SIDE OF GOODNIGHT RANCH. THERE ARE THREE HOUSING, UH, FOR RENT, UH, FOR, UH, EXISTING OR ONE'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT TWO EXISTING, UH, UH, FOR RENT, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, PROJECTS. ONE HAS 304, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND THOSE ARE AVAILABLE TO 65% OF THE MFI. AND THEN ONE IS AGE RESTRICTED AND HAS 174 AT VARIOUS INCOMES FROM 30% OF THE MFI GOING UP. AND THOSE ARE OUR RENTAL ONE. THERE IS ANOTHER PROJECT CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION FROM LDG CALLED MOONS, UM, MOONLIGHT GARDENS. AND THAT WILL HAVE 294 UNITS. AND THAT'S 80% OF THE MSI. UH, WHAT WE, UH, WORKED OUT WITH NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WAS TO LOOK AT OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES. AND SO BASED ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION, THE, UH, CHANGE THAT WE'LL BE HAVING HERE IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AT 92 UNITS OF, UH, OF OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES. AND THAT WILL OCCUR ON THE SOUTH SIDE. [01:05:01] LET ME SHARE WITH YOU THOUGH THAT OUR PRICE POINTS IN AUSTIN ARE NOT AUSTIN'S PRICE. OUR PRICE POINTS IN GOODNIGHT, RANCH ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE PRICE POINTS AND WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IN THE REST OF AUSTIN OWNERSHIP. WITHIN THE NORTH SIDE, YOU COULD GET INTO A HOME OWNERSHIP AT A PRICE OF TWO 20 NOWHERE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. COULD YOU OWN A HOME FOR $220,000? OUR PRICE POINTS GO FROM TWO 20 TO TWO, UH, THE BUILDERS TO, TO THE, UH, MID TO HIGH THREE HUNDREDS AND A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT COMPONENTS. AND SO THE, HOW WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY HITTING A MAJORITY OF THE MISSING MIDDLE, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT, UNLIKE ANY OTHER PROJECT, IN ADDITION TO, UH, CREATING A DIVERSIFICATION IN OUR HOUSING, WHERE IT'S NOT JUST ALL SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, THERE'S TOWNHOMES ATTACHED AND DETACHED, THERE IS SINGLE FAMILY FOR RENT. THERE IS THE STANDARD APARTMENT, UH, CONDITION, UH, THERE'S THAT AGE RESTRICTION THAT I MENTIONED, UH, WE HAVE DUPLEX AND THEN THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGES FOR SINGLE FAMILY OWNERSHIP ALSO VARY. SO IN GENERAL, UM, WE'RE, WE ARE MAKING A GOOD EFFORT, UH, UH, WITH THE MISSING MIDDLE, WITH THE BUILDERS THAT WE HAVE, AND, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, ON THE AFFORDABLE SIDE BETWEEN 65% OF THE MFI. AND, UH, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. UH, I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU AND ALEX, UH, FROM NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO LAY OUT IS A TRACKING METHOD THAT SHE HAS, UH, UH, PUT TOGETHER FOR US, UH, FOR, UM, FOR PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TRACKING THAT WELL, YOU'VE, I THINK YOU'VE ENTERED SOME OF MY QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET THE BIG PICTURE OF HOW MANY OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS IN THIS, IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, UH, IT'S GOING FROM 3,533 UNITS TO OVER 6,000 UNITS, I BELIEVE 6,200 UNITS. AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW OF ALL OF THOSE UNITS ARE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT OUT HERE. HOW MANY ARE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR RENT, FOR INCOME RESTRICTED RENT PURPOSES, UH, AND WHAT IS THAT INCOME LEVEL AND RESTRICTED INCOME LEVEL, AND FOR OWNERSHIP, I WASN'T CLEAR ABOUT THE TOTAL NUMBERS. OKAY. SO, UM, MY ROUGH CALCULATION, MY ROUGH CALCULATIONS ARE ABOUT 772 UNITS ARE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT RANGE FROM 65% OF THE MFI, UH, UP TO 80% OF THE MFI, AND THEN 92% 92 UNITS, UH, ARE FOR OWNERSHIP AND, UH, WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR 80% OF THE MFI. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED. I'M SORRY. I WAS, I KIND OF A NUMBERS GUY IN A WAY TOO. SO THOSE NUMBERS HELPED ME A LOT. AND, UH, SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, ARE THESE, UH, WILL ANY OF THE LOW INCOME HOUSING CREDIT FINANCING BE USED FOR THESE, UH, INCOME RESTRICTED, UH, RENTAL UNITS AND OWNERSHIP UNITS? SO WE'RE THE DEVELOPER, NOT THE ACTUAL VERTICAL BUILDER. AND SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE FINANCING MECHANISMS THAT FOLKS WILL USE BUILDERS WILL USE TO CREATE, UH, THAT HOUSING. I'M SORRY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND MY UNDERSTANDING TOO, IS THAT THESE, UH, THESE UNITS ARE GOING TO BE RESTRICTED INCOME. THESE RENTAL AND OWNERSHIP UNITS ARE GOING TO BE RESTRICTED INCOME RESTRICTED FOR 99 YEARS. IS THAT CORRECT? BOTH THE, BOTH THE RENTAL AND THE OWNERSHIP UNITS, THE RENTALS, I THINK ARE 40 YEARS. AND THEN, UH, OWNERSHIP, I BELIEVE HAVE THAT 9,900 A YEAR AT YOUR SPEAKING 99. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS INFORMATION AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT. YOU'RE REALLY TRYING TO ADDRESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE IN THIS, IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RAY. UM, SO LIKE COMMISSIONER KING, UM, I'M BIG PICTURE, VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT. UM, I REALLY APPLAUD THE FRAMING OF THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION AS BEING ONE ABOUT HOW WE'RE ADDING RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND DIVERSIFYING THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN OUR CITY. UM, SINCE THE CHAIR HAS HAD TO RECUSE HERSELF, I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS WILL BE THE TERMINUS OF ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECT CONNECT INVESTMENTS, UM, WHERE WE'LL HAVE A BUS RAPID TRANSIT ROUTE, UM, GOING OUT TO THE GOODNIGHT RANCH. SO THAT'S ALSO ANOTHER REASON TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. UM, I THINK MY ONLY MAIN QUESTION IS JUST ABOUT SOME OF THE MECHANICS OF THE AFFORDABILITY. [01:10:01] UM, PIGGYBACKING A BIT ON, UM, COMMISSIONER KING'S COMMENTS. UM, I THINK OVERALL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T GET THE DEEP SUBSIDIES IF IT'S NOT BEING FINANCED, UM, AS A LYTEC PROJECT. UM, SO WE CAN'T REALLY HOLD A PROJECT TO THOSE STANDARDS OF ACCOUNTABILITY, BUT, UM, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE'RE HAVING UNITS FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP AND THAT ADDITIONAL 5% IS HUGE. IT'S, YOU KNOW, TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED OTHERWISE IN THIS AREA. SO TO THAT END, JUST TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THAT HAPPENS. I WAS HOPING YOU COULD EXPLAIN, UM, KIND OF LIKE HOW THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ATTACHMENT THAT WE HAVE ATTACHMENT D HOW THAT INTERACTS WITH THE AMENDED ORDINANCE. AND DO WE SPECIFICALLY NEED TO UPDATE THE ORDINANCES AMENDMENT, UM, TO LOCK IN THAT ADDITIONAL 5% OF HOMEOWNERSHIP, OR JUST LIKE, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, UM, IS BAKED INTO THE PROJECT AS WE, UM, HOPEFULLY APPROVE IT TONIGHT AND STARTED? THAT WAS A LITTLE LONG-WINDED AND I WROTE A, THIS IS WENDY ROSE, THE CASE MANAGER AND THE AFFORDABLE AGREEMENT TERMS THAT ARE IN ATTACHMENT D THEY WILL BE ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE. UM, THIS WAS THE LAST PIECE, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS FINALLY RESULTED IN THIS CASE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION. SO IT, IT, ALTHOUGH IT ISN'T IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, RIGHT. OR THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT THE APPLICANT AND THE STAFF HAS CREATED RIGHT NOW, IT WILL BE, UH, WHEN IT GOES TO COUNCIL. GREAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KOSTA. THANK YOU. UH, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED BY THIS PROJECT. I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THAT CAN BE DONE AND A LOT OF POTENTIAL THAT IT HAS. I'M CURIOUS, UM, WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING PUT IN BETWEEN THE NORTH AND SOUTH ENDS OF THE PROJECT, UH, TO CREATE MORE WALKABILITY OR ACCESS FOR BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN ACROSS SLAUGHTER? YES. JANICE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HANDLE THAT OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO HANDLE IT? THIS IS MY RIGUP. UM, I'M HAPPY TO HANDLE IT, MYRA, THANK YOU. UH, THERE ARE TWO PEDESTRIAN UNDERPASSES THAT ARE BEING PLACED OR THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT WILL BE ACTIVATED, UM, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SOUTH PORTION OF GOODNIGHT RANCH, UM, THAT WILL ALLOW FOR PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE USE TO PASS UNDERNEATH SLAUGHTER LANE WITHOUT HAVING TO, UH, UTILIZE THE AT GRADE CROSSING. AND THIS IS WHEN HE WROTE THAT IS DEPICTED ON THE LAND USE MAP, WHICH IS THE EXHIBIT C. YOU COULD SEE THE TWO, UM, PEDESTRIAN UNDERPASSES ARE LABELED. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE. I MUST'VE MISSED OUT THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF CONTENT. SO I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO READ THROUGH AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING HERE. YEAH, THAT WAS A BIG PACKET. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER COASTER, ARE YOU DONE? AND THAT WAS MY PRIMARY CONCERN. I THINK COMMISSIONER KING, UH, ANSWERED THE BULK OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD EARLIER ON. OKAY. THEN IS THERE GOING TO BE A MOTION OR DID SOMEBODY RAISE THEIR HAND COMMISSIONER SMITH? HOW ABOUT EMOTIONS THAT BACKUP THIS AGAIN? I CAN MOTION TO APPROVE THE THIRD AMENDMENT SECOND AMENDMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION. IS THERE A SECOND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COSTA AND THEN ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? AND IF NOT, WE CAN JUST VOTE COMMISSIONER DANGLER AND JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR, UM, THE APPLICANT. UM, IS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO PUT AN AMENDMENT IN TERMS OF EXECUTING THIS PROJECT? I KNOW PETS CAN BE AMENDED TO DEATH. UM, AND IT'S REAL FRUSTRATING FOR ME WHEN I SEE PROJECTS, UM, AND BELIEVE ME IN STANDING FOR ALL HUNDRED PAGES, THIS, I DIDN'T GET IT ALL DONE OVER THE WEEKEND. IT IS BETTER THAN MOST BUGS. UM, I'M THRILLED AT THE MIX OF HOUSING, THE THOUGHT ON THE PLACEMENT, THE EXTRA OPEN SPACE, MORE HOMEOWNERSHIP. AND, OH MY GOSH, WE ACTUALLY GOT A FIRE STATION AND LAND FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS, WHICH [01:15:01] IS TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NOT BEEN DONE ON ANY PEDS, BUT HAS ANY THOUGHT BEEN GIVEN TO AMENDING THE PAD SO THAT IF SOMETHING ISN'T CONSTRUCTED WITHIN SAY 10 YEARS, THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CURRENT CODE ORDINANCES, WHAT'S YOUR PHASING OR THIS WHAT'S YOUR PLAN BUILD OUT. SO THE PLAN, THIS WAS LIKE A PLAN BUILD OUT THAT WE WOULD HAVE WERE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT TO 10 YEARS THAT WILL BE COMPLETED. AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A, THE MARKET DEMAND. AND THEY SAY THAT, UH, THAT, UH, EIGHT TO 10 YEARS IS OUR TIMEFRAME, BUT WE ARE, I MEAN, I THINK A CHANGE, UH, IS THAT THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE WITHIN, UH, THE PROJECT WITHIN THE, THE PUD AMENDMENT THAT TALKS ABOUT CURTAIN CODE ALREADY. SO I BELIEVE THAT THAT YOUR CONCERN IS ADDRESSED. UH, IF I'M REMEMBERING, RIGHT. LET ME ASK, UM, MS. RHODES, IT'S CURRENT CODE FOR NORTH OF SLAUGHTER AND, UM, CURRENT CODE FOR SOUTH OF SLAUGHTER 2006 FOR NORTH, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. YES. SO THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH FLOOD RULES FOR, UM, JUST SOUTH OF THE PROJECT FLOODING ISSUES SOUTH OF THE PROJECT. YEAH. THAT, THAT, THAT WAS AN ISSUE IN THIS CASE AMENDMENT. OKAY. AND I WANT TO MOVE, SORRY. I I'D LIKE TO MOVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, UM, THAT, UM, THE POD, UH, IF NOT FULLY BUILT IN 12 YEARS, UM, HAS TO COMPLY WITH, UM, CURRENT, UM, UH, CURRENT CODE REQUIREMENTS ARE CURRENT WITH CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR FLOODING AND THE ENVIRONMENT WATERSHED. MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME, WENDY. UH, I, I THINK NOW I THINK THAT IS COVERED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, IT JUST TALKS ABOUT CURRENT CODE AS IT'S AMENDED FROM TIME TO TIME. UH, OH, WHERE COULD YOU POINT SPECIFICALLY? DID I MISS IT TALK IT'S TIME? THE APPLICANT'S RED LINES, I'M LOOKING AT RED LINES. UH, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 20 SOMETHING PAGES IN OR MORE. AND IT'S THE BOTTOM OF THE VERY BOTTOM IN RED. OKAY. ON PAGE ONE OF 11, IT WAS THE APPLICANT REDLINE, JUNE, JUNE 8TH OF 2020, JUNE 8TH, THE 2020. OKAY. AT THE TIME, IS THE COVER LETTER OR IS IT THE, UM, REDLINE ON THE ORDINANCE? UH, OKAY, GOT IT. OKAY. THIS IS PHYLLIS WITH WATERSHED PROTECTION. IF YOU NEED ANY HELP WITH THAT. UM, THERE'S ONLY A FEW CODE MODIFICATE ENVIRONMENTAL CODE MODIFICATIONS. ALL THE REST OF THE PUMP IS CURRENT CODE OR WHATEVER THE CURRENT CODE IS AT TIME OF SITE PLAN. OKAY. AH, OKAY. SO YOU GUYS LOVE, YOU GUYS WERE OKAY WITH THIS. UM, ALL RIGHT. THAT'S REALLY WHAT I, UM, NEEDED TO KNOW. THANK YOU. SO I TAKE IT COMMISSIONER DAN CLEAR THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT YOU'VE WITHDRAWN YOUR MOTION. I'M WITHDRAWING MY AMENDMENT, SO THAT'S ALL. OKAY. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN, SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER SMITH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COSTA, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS. ALL THOSE. I SEE NOBODY OPPOSED. SO IT IS UNANIMOUS AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR PARTICIPATING AND FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS. AND THANK YOU, ESPECIALLY WENDY RHODES, WHO HAS A LOT OF CASES HERE TONIGHT, AND I CAN PASS IT BACK TO CHAIR BERRERA RAMIREZ. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, LET'S MOVE [B3. Rezoning: C14-2020-0151 - 8401 - 8407 South 1st Street; District 2 (Part 2 of 2)] ON TO ITEM B THREE. I'M NOT SURE WHO THE STAFF IS FOR THAT. I IT'S ME AGAIN. OKAY. THIS IS WENDY RHODES AGAIN FOR THE, UH, UH, [01:20:01] 84 OH ONE TO 84 OH SEVEN SOUTH FIRST STREET. SO THIS REZONING AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 8.8 ACRES INSIDE, AND IT CONTAINS FOUR PLANTED LOTS AND CONTAINS A FLAG AND FLAGPOLE SALES COMPANY, AS WELL AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT IS OTHERWISE UNDEVELOPED. THIS PROPERTY HAS FRONTAGE ON SOUTH FIRST STREET AND ACCESS TO THE TERMINUS OF, OR DRIVE. THERE WAS A 2012 TO 2013 CASE THAT COVER THE NORTH AND EAST PORTIONS OF THE SITE. AND COUNCIL APPROVED. LRM YOU SEE, OH, ALONG THE SOUTH FIRST STREET FRONTAGE AND FOR THE REMAINDER, THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY TODAY LIMITS THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE TRIPS TO 2000 AND IT LIMITS ACCESS TO, OR TO BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN AND EMERGENCY ACCESS AND EMERGENCY EGRESS AND INGRESS AND EGRESS. THE CURRENT APPLICATION INCLUDES TWO OTHER PLAT, UH, PLATTED LOTS, WHICH CONTAINS THE FLAG. USE THE FLAG SALES USE. THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND THE BEACON RIDGE THREE SUBDIVISION TO THE NORTH AND EAST AND SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES IN THE BUCKINGHAM. HE STATES PHASE TWO SUBDIVISION AND TWO CHURCHES ACROSS SOUTH STREET, SOUTH FIRST STREET TO THE WEST. THOSE ARE ZONED SF TO THE IMAGINE. AUSTIN CONCEPT MAC IDENTIFIES SOUTH FIRST STREET AS A MIXED USE CORRIDOR. AND THIS REFLECTS ITS USES AND THE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ZONING THAT'S MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCE, MODERATE HIGH DENSITY WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY SO THAT IT COULD BE DEVELOPED WITH UP TO 290 APARTMENT UNITS. THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR MF, FOR CEO, GIVEN ITS ACCESS TO A MAJOR ARTERIAL STREET AND ADJACENCY TO COMMERCIALLY OWNED PROPERTY. THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, WHICH IS ON PAGE ONE, ADDRESSES A DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ADJACENT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND PROVIDES ADDITIONAL SETBACKS, VEGETATIVE, BUFFERS, AND FENCING BETWEEN THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCES. UH, JUST AS INFORMATION, THE, UH, 50 FOOT HEIGHT THAT IS PART OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION COULD BE ACHIEVED AT A DISTANCE OF 200 FEET FROM THE CLOSEST SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES IN THE BEACON RIDGE THREE SUBDIVISION. SO, UH, THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY IS AGAIN FOR 50 FEET AND FOUR STORIES, A MAXIMUM TWO 90 UNITS, A 45 FOOT WIDE DWELLING UNITS SETBACK ALONG THE NORTH AND EAST PROPERTY LINES WERE ADJACENT TO SF TWO ZONING, A SIX FOOT HIGH SOLID FENCE ALONG THE NORTH AND EAST PROPERTY LINES, A, AN EIGHT FOOT VEGETATIVE BUFFER ALONG THE NORTH AND EAST PROPERTY LINES AND LIMITING ACCESS TO, OR DRIVE TO BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN EMERGENCY ACCESS. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I MENTIONED IN THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, I MENTIONED THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT HAVE OCCURRED ON THIS WITH, UH, ADJACENT RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, WENDY. UM, SO NEXT WE'LL HEAR FROM, UH, THE APPLICANT AND MR. HARTMAN. GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU LET ME KNOW AND FLY TOO? IS THAT OKAY? IT LOOKS WELL. NO, THAT'S NOT LIKE TWO OR IS IT, I CAN'T TELL IT SAYS PROJECT OVERVIEW. DID YOU MEAN A CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS DAVID HARTMAN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT WAYFINDER REAL ESTATE, AS INDICATED AS THREE VACANT LOTS PLUS AUSTIN FLAG, THERE IS NO EXISTING DETENTION OR WATER QUALITY. THE PROJECT IS PREDOMINANTLY ZONED. LRM UN SF SIX. WE'VE APPLIED FOR HIM AT FOUR TO ACHIEVE SOME FOUR STORIES TO ALLOW FOR A CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT, SMALLER FOOTPRINT, MORE TREE PRESERVATION, AND REDUCED IMPERVIOUS COVER. UM, WE, WE PROPOSE DRAINAGE AND TRANSLATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT BENEFIT THE AREA AND SIGNIFICANT BUFFERING AND HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH, WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NEXT SLIDE, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE AERIAL SHOWS IS NORTH OF SLAUGHTER LANE AT GREAT BRITAIN. NEXT SLIDE. IT SHOWS THE LOCATION MAP, BASICALLY THE VACANT [01:25:01] LOTS BOSTON FLAG AND BLACK POLE. NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE ZONING AREA MAP WITH THE LRM USE ZONING WITH SF SIX WITH TINY STRIP SF TO THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS, IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDORS. UM, THIS IS ON AN IMAGINE AUSTIN CORRIDORS AND WITHIN A HALF MILE OF SOUTH PARK REGIONAL CENTER. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THAT THIS TRACT IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO TRANSPORTATION PARTS, UH, PRIORITY NETWORKS OF GREAT BRITAIN AND SOUTH FIRST STREET ON THERE'S A BUS ROUTE 10 HIGH FREQUENCY BUS STOPPED ON THE PROPERTY. THE NEXT SLIDE JUST SIMPLY, UH, CONFIRMS IT'S ON A BIKE ROUTE AS WELL. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE PROJECT CONNECT LOCATION. OF COURSE IT'S UNDER NEPA AND THE DESIGN REVIEW, BUT IT SHOWS THAT THE ORANGE LINE BASICALLY GOES TO STASSNEY LANE AND POSSIBLY EXTENDS EVEN CLOSER TO OUR PROPERTY. UM, THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THAT CAT METRO'S ISTATION AREA, UH, KIND OF PRELIMINARY DESIGNATION SHOWS THAT THIS TRACT, UM, THE STATIONS LABELS, BUT YET BASICALLY RALPH ABLOH, NATO, UM, SO VERY CLOSE TO THE WALK SHED, BIKE SHED FOR THAT STATION STAFF, THE NEXT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS COMPARISON. AGAIN, THERE'S A TINY STRIP AS SF TWO IN DR. BUT, UH, IF YOU LOOK COMPARE THE SF SIX LRM RMU AND OUR MF FOUR CEO WHITE ZONING, WE'RE BASICALLY ABOUT, ABOUT THE SAME HEIGHT, 50 FOOT HEIGHT, MAX, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOWER IN PERSON FOR HIS COVER. THEN THE 80% ON THE LRM KNEW ABOUT THE SAME, UH, BUILDING COVERAGE. AND WE WERE ENHANCED OUR COMPATIBILITY SET BACKS BY 45 FEET. NEXT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE IS REALLY THE LINCHPIN OF THE WHOLE CASE. IT SHOWS THAT THE COMPATIBILITY CITY SETBACKS, WHETHER IT'S CONDOS UNDER EXISTING ZONING OR MULTIFAMILY, YOU HAVE TO STEP BACK AND NOTHING WITHIN 25 FEET, TWO STORIES OR 30 FEET, AND THEN THREE STORIES IN 40 FEET SETBACK AS SHOWN ON THE NEXT SLIDE. FOR EXAMPLE, UNDER EXISTING ZONING, THERE COULD BE CONDOS 25 FEET AWAY FROM THE NORTH AND EAST PROPERTY LINE AND OFFICE, UM, MEDICAL OFFICE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS OUR FIRST MEETING. OUR CONCEPT PLAN BASICALLY FOLLOWED THE THREE PRIOR SITE PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THIS TRACT WITH AN INITIAL 25 FOOT SETBACK, STEPPING BACK TWO STORIES, THREE STORIES BACK TO FOUR STORIES. WE HEARD A LOT FROM NEIGHBORS ABOUT, COULD WE PLEASE CONSIDER BUFFERING? SO WE WENT TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND CAME BACK WITH ENHANCED FORTY-FIVE, BUT IT'S SET BACK. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A 45, BUT STEPPED BACK FROM THE NORTH EAST AND WEST PROPERTY LINE TWO AND THREE STORIES STEPS BACK TO FOUR STORIES THAT ARE BASICALLY 180 FEET AWAY. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS OUR CROSS SECTIONS UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING AND SECTION ONE, UM, BASICALLY WHAT COULD BE DONE IN RECURRENT ZONING WITH THE TWO AND THREE STORIES. UH, THE SECTION TWO SHOWS WHAT OUR PROPOSAL IS, IS NOT ONLY TO ENHANCE THE SETBACK TO 45 FEET, BUT ALSO A VEGETATIVE BUFFER, A NINE FOOT SCREENING, AS WELL AS ROBUST, UM, UH, LIVE OAK TREES THERE. AND THAT'S KIND OF OUR CURRENT, UM, PLAN. THE NEXT SLIDE BASICALLY PRESUMES OUT ON THE LAST SLIDE THAT YOU SAW AND ADDED IN WHERE THE FOUR-STORY STRUCTURE WOULD BE BASICALLY HIDDEN BEHIND THE, NOT ONLY THE VEGETATIVE BUFFER, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S TWO, TWO AND THREE STORIES, AND IT'D BE LOCATED ROUGHLY TWO THIRDS OF A FOOTBALL FIELD LENGTH AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. THE NEXT SIDE BASICALLY DEMONSTRATES THAT LOOKING AT PROXIMATE PROJECTS, THIS BASICALLY FALLS RIGHT IN LINE WITH OTHER PROJECTS. THE MORE RECENT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS HAVE ALL BEEN FOUR-STORY OR GREATER. THIS BODY'S APP APPROVED THE NUMBER EIGHT COLON ARRIVA, ABLA, NATO, UM, UH, HIGHER THAN THIS HEIGHT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. A COUPLE OF MONTHS, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS NEXT SLIDE KIND OF SUMMARIZES OUR ENHANCED, UM, 45 FOOT SETBACK, OUR ENHANCED NINE FOOT PRIVACY, OUR ENHANCED, UH, EIGHT FOOT VEGETATIVE BUFFER DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS. UM, OTHERS WE'LL GO OVER OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT IN TERMS OF PROHIBITING CONSTRUCTION ON, ON, UH, SUNDAYS, AND THEN OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT OF 10% AND 80% MFI. THE LAST SLIDE BASICALLY SUMMARIZES THE REASONS TO SUPPORT, AGAIN, PROVIDED MUCH NEEDS HOUSING AND SUPPORTIVE COUNCIL DIRECTIVE FOR WAREHOUSING AND ALL AREAS, YOU KNOW, AT A HIGH FREQUENCY BUS STOP ON THE IMAGINED CORRIDOR OR NEAR PROJECT CONNECT FEATURE STATIONS AND IMAGINE AUSTIN CENTERS. AND THE OTHER REASONS THAT WE'VE KIND OF GONE OVER ANOTHER'S RECOVER. AND I WOULD JUST ASK YOU THIS, UH, YOUR GENERAL SUPPORT FOR SUPPORTING STAFF RECOMMENDATION, SUPPORT THE ADVANCED BUFFERING AND THANKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THEIR, UH, UH, DIALOGUE [01:30:01] AND SUPPORT AND HELPING MAKE THIS A BETTER PROJECT THAN IT WAS WHEN WE BROUGHT THEM TO THAT. AND I'LL, I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER OUR TRANSPORTATION, AFTER OUR CIVIL ENGINEER AND AFTER OUR TRANSPORTATION CONSULTANTS GO OVER THERE, THEIR PRESENTATIONS, WHEN YOUR SLIDES ARE READY. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. HARTMAN. UM, MR. IS NEXT SHARE RESPECTFULLY. CAN WE HAVE, UM, ALISON GO NEXT ABOUT WHAT THE DRAINAGE SLIDE, IF, UH, WHEN READY? THANK YOU. IF YOU COULD JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN IT'S ON THE SECOND SLIDE FOR THAT. OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S UP. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. ONE OF THE MAJOR CONSIDERATIONS WHEN STARTING DESIGN ON THE PROPERTY, WHERE THE DOWNSTREAM DRAINAGE CONDITION TO PROVIDE A BRIEF HISTORY ON THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, THE STORM SYSTEM DOWNGRADING OF OUR PROPERTY WAS DESIGNED IN THE 1970S AS PART OF TWO PHASES OF THE SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION BEACON RIDGE ONE AND BEACON RANCH SITE IN THE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION PLANS. THERE WERE SWALES ALONG THE NORTHERN EASTERN PROPERTY LINES THAT DIRECTED STORMWATER RUNOFF FROM OUR SITE AND THOSE UPSTREAM OF US TO THE END LID AT THE END OF OUR DRIVE, YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE. OUR PROJECT LOCATION IS SHOWN ON THE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION PLANS. ON, IN THAT TIME, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPOSED GRADING OF THE SWALES AND THE SHEETS IN THE LAST 50 YEARS, THESE SWALES HAVE ERODED OVER TIME RESULTING IN THE RUNOFF, GOING DIRECTLY INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS, THE BORDER, OUR PROPERTY, NEXT SLIDE, KNOWING THERE WERE DRAINAGE CONCERNS IN THE AREA. WE STARTED OUT DESIGNED BY EVALUATING THE DOWNSTREAM CONDITIONS OF THE STORM SYSTEM, LOOKING FOR ANY POTENTIAL OFF-SITE AREAS THAT COULD BE IMPROVED. HOWEVER, SINCE THE 1970S, THE ADJACENT FLOOD PLAIN ELEVATION AND STOP ON THE CREEK HAS RISEN BY NEARLY 10 FEET. THIS CONDITION HAS RESULTED INTO THE DOWNSTREAM SYSTEM BEING COMPLETELY INUNDATED IN THE A HUNDRED YEAR STORM EVENT, REDUCING THE AVAILABLE VOLUME AND THEREFORE THE CAPACITY OF THE SYSTEM. NEXT SLIDE, THIS RISE IN FLOODPLAIN ELEVATION IS THE DRIVING FACTOR FOR THE CAPACITY CONSTRAINTS IN THE EXISTING SYSTEM RESULTING IN THERE BEING NO OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS WE COULD MAKE THAT HAVE A MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON THE FLOODING CONDITIONS EXPERIENCED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NEXT SLIDE, GIVEN THIS, WE FOCUSED ON ONSITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE COULD MAKE THESE INCLUDED REGRADING ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE TO PREVENT THE SHEET FLOW OF WATER FROM OUR PROPERTY ONTO THE NEIGHBORING SEAMS. AND WE LOCKED PROVIDING DRAINAGE EASEMENTS ALONG THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN PROPERTY LINES TO CAPTURE AND REROUTE THE UPSTREAM FLOWS THAT ARE CURRENTLY TRAVELING UNABATED ACROSS OUR PROPERTY, IMPROVING THE EXISTING INLET AT THE END OF ORANGE DRIVE AND PROVIDING A LEVEL SPREADER THAT WOULD SAFELY DISCHARGE THE STORMWATER INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY AND OVER DETAINING ON OUR PROPERTY BY CONSTRUCTING A SUBTERRANEAN DETENTION POND THAT DECIDES TO CAPTURE ON-SITE FLOWS AND REDUCE THE EXISTING PEAK FLOW, LEAVING OUR PROPERTY BY 10%. NEXT SLIDE HERE. YOU CAN SEE VISUALLY WHERE THESE WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE SITE, REGRADING THE EXISTING SITE ADJACENT TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY LOT REROUTING THE UPSTREAM FLOWS THAT ARE REROUTING THE UPSTREAM FLOWS THROUGH A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, IMPROVING THE EXISTING AND WHAT AT THE END OF OUR DRIVE AND OVER DETAINING IN THE ONSITE DETENTION POND. BASED ON OUR CURRENT CALCULATIONS, WE WILL BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE ONSITE FLOWS BY 9% IN THE TWO YEAR AND UP TO 16% IN THE A HUNDRED YEARS. NEXT SLIDE, AS A RESULT OF THESE ON-SITE IMPROVEMENTS, REGRADING, REROUTING, IMPROVING, AND OVER DETAINING THE PROJECT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THE FLOODING CURRENTLY EXPERIENCED IN THE SINGLE FAMILY LOSS, ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY, REDUCE THE OVERALL VOLUME OF STORM WATER COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONTAIN ALL FUTURE STORM EVENTS UP TO THE 100 YEAR WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. OKAY. IS THAT THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION? UM, I THINK OTHER, THE OTHER SPEAKER I HAVE IS, UM, SANTIAGO RRK AND MAC MIGUEL WAF. YEAH. UM, IF YOU COULD JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN THE TRANSPORTATION SLIDE IS UP, THAT SAYS PROJECT OVERVIEW ON IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S UP. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS ON THE IMPACTS THE PROJECT HAS, UM, DO THE EXISTING ROADWAY NETWORK. I'D LIKE TO START WITH A PRODUCT OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AS IT WAS STATED BEFORE, UM, THE 8.87 ACRES IS CURRENTLY IN A VACANT LOT, UH, THREE VACANT LOTS. UM, THE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE A DRIVEWAY THAT WILL CONNECT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM AN GRAPEFRUIT GREAT BRITAIN STREET. UM, WE WILL ADD A TRAFFIC [01:35:01] SIGNAL AT THAT INTERSECTION. UH, IN ADDITION, IT'LL ADD NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANES. UM, THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCREASE SAFETY, UH, ALONG SOUTH FIRST, WHICH CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVE TURN LANES BY MOVING THE LEFT TURNING VEHICLES OUT OF THE MAIN STREET AND ALLOWING THEM TO BE, BE SAFELY WAITING FOR A GAP WHILE THROUGH THROUGH VEHICLES ABLE TO CONTINUE, UM, AT, THROUGH TRAFFIC FROM SOUTH FIRST, WHICH IS A MAJOR ARTERIAL IN THE CITY. UH, IN ADDITION, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL CREATE PLATOONS, UM, WHICH WILL ALLOW EASIER CROSSING AN ACCESS TO SOUTH FIRST STREET FROM ADJACENT ROADWAYS. UH, NEXT SLIDE, TRAFFIC FACTS ON, ON THIS PROPERTY. THIS IS A, A BUSINESS TRIP GENERATION FROM A MANUAL CALLED THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, TRIPPED GENERATION FOR A VARIETY OF LAND USES. THE FIRST ROW THAT YOU SEE HERE IS TOWNHOME AND MEDICAL DENTAL OFFICE, WHICH IS THE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWED. UM, IN THIS PROPERTY. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS 292 MILLION UNITS FOR MULTI-FAMILY. UM, THE COMPARISON SHOWS 24 HOUR AM PEAK AND PM PEAK TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE SITE SLIDE. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S DECREASE IN ALL THREE, UM, UH, TIMEFRAMES, THE 24 HOURS, IT GOES DOWN BY 13% AND THE PEAK HOURS GO DOWN BY 26% AND 37%. IT'S A KEY POINT TO NOTE THAT THE PMP GOES DOWN, UM, BY THE LARGER, THE LARGER AMOUNT OF ANY OF THEM, WHICH IS USUALLY THE WORST PEAK, UM, IN MOST TRAFFIC CONDITIONS IN THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE, THE TRIP GENERATION MANUAL ALSO ALLOWS US TO SEE THE TRIPS IN AND OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THE, THE PRESENTATION YOU SEE HERE IS THE DISTRIBUTION OF TRAFFIC INTO THE NETWORK FOR EACH PEAK HOUR FOR THE AM AND PM PEAK HOURS. UM, YOU CAN SEE RIGHT IN, OUT AND LEFT IN AND OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS ACROSS GREAT BRITAIN BOULEVARD. UM, WE DISTRIBUTED THE TRAFFIC PER EXISTING COUNTS. UM, AND WE'VE THE, WE DETERMINED THAT IT WAS A 50 50 SPLIT GOING NORTH AND SOUTH. SO YOU SEE A 50 50 SPLIT OF OUR TRAFFIC COMING IN FROM THE NORTH END, FROM THE SOUTH AND GOING TO THE NORTH END TO THE SOUTH. NEXT SLIDE. THIS TABLE SHOWS THE, AGAIN, THE TRIP GENERATION DATA. UM, WE ALSO COMPARED IT TO EXISTING DATA TO DETERMINE THE PERCENT IMPACT OF OUR SITE TO THE NETWORK. UM, WE COMPARE TO THIS USING TWO EXISTING COUNTS, ONE, UH, BI-DIRECTIONAL COUNT ON SOUTH FIRST STREET, UM, 24 HOURS. IT SHOWS THAT WE'RE 7% OF THE, OF THE EXISTING TRAFFIC. UM, NEXT SLIDE, THE SUMMARY, THE NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. AND THE NEXT SLIDE, FINALLY, THE, AS I STATED BEFORE, WE'RE PROPOSING A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UH, TURN LANES, INCREASING SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY TO THE AREA. UM, AND IT IS $800,000 PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION FOR THIS PROJECT, UH, WHICH HAS MINIMAL IMPACT TO EXISTING TRAFFIC. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN IS THERE, UM, MACK, MIGUEL WOTH ON THE LINE? YES. THIS IS MAC MAC RASS, WAYFINDER, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN I HAVE, LET'S SEE SOME SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT. CHRIS SITES, COMMISSION LIAISON, ANDREW, IF WE CAN GO TO MS. MARGARET VALENTI. OH, SURE. GO AHEAD. MISS VALENTI, SHARON COMMISSIONER, YOU MEAN KAREN COMMISSIONERS? MY NAME IS MARGARET VALENTI AND I LIVE ON PEACEFUL HILL LANE ABOUT ONE HALF MILE FROM THE PROPERTY WE ARE DISCUSSING TONIGHT. I'VE LIVED IN MY HOME FOR OVER 15 YEARS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. I WANTED TO START BY THANKING MY NEIGHBORS IN PARTICULAR, JEFF AND CHRISTINA, FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP, WRANGLING OF EMAILS, NOTES, MEETING, ORGANIZING FACEBOOK POSTING AND SO ON. AND THANK YOU TO THE OTHERS WHO HAVE WORKED TO GET THE NEIGHBORS INVOLVED. IT HAS BEEN A HUGE LIFT. I ATTENDED THREE OF THE FOUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS. ONE HAS BEING LAST FRIDAY NIGHT AT FIVE 30 AND I'D LIKE 5:30 PM. AND I'D LIKE TO THANK CITY STAFF FOR ATTENDING THAT AS WELL. I LISTENED TO THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS. I'VE READ ALL OF THE EMAILS FROM MY NEIGHBORS, CITY STAFF DEVELOPERS, AND ALSO REVIEWED THE ATTACHMENTS, POWERPOINTS AND BACKUP MATERIALS. AFTER CONSIDERING ALL THE INFORMATION [01:40:01] I AM IN FAVOR OF TONIGHT, ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM TO . I'VE HEARD SOME CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS WHO WILL HAVE THE PROJECT ALONG THEIR PROPERTY LINES. AND THESE ISSUES INCLUDE FLOODING HEIGHT, COMPATIBILITY, NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY, PRIVACY, FENCING, VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, BOTH VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIAN AND, AND MORE. AND I FEEL THE PROJECT TEAM HAS GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO LISTEN TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS AND INCORPORATE SOLUTIONS AND RESPONSES INTO THE PROJECT DESIGN. AS THE CITY OF BOSTON CONTINUES TO GROW AND GROW AND GROW TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS SUCH AS SOUTH FIRST ARE THE LOGICAL PLACE TO PUT MORE HOUSING PROJECTS DENSITY ALONG THE QUARTERS BUILDING UP RATHER THAN SPRAWLING OUT IS THE BEST WAY TO PROTECT SINGLE FAMILY. ON THE WHOLE. WE SEE THIS GROWTH ALONG SOUTH CONGRESS, MEN CHAKA BRODY LANE, SLAUGHTER LANE. AND NOW THIS SECTION OF SOUTH FIRST STREET, ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS THAT HAD BEEN ARTICULATED BY MY NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY OR THE CURRENT FLOODING PROBLEMS BEING EXACERBATED BY THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY AS A COMMUNITY MEETING TO DISCUSS FLOODING AND DRAINAGE ISSUES. LAST FRIDAY NIGHT, THE CITY STAFF THAT WERE PRESENT INDICATED THAT THERE WERE NO PLANS FOR THE CITY FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CURRENT DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS PROJECT IS THE ONLY DRAINAGE SOLUTION FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE AND WITHOUT THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND IMPROVE THESE IMPROVEMENTS. UH, THIS BAD SITUATION WILL ONLY CONTINUE TO GET WORSE WITHOUT THESE IMPROVEMENTS. AND I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT MY NEIGHBORS DURING ALL OF THIS RECENT RAIN, AND CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT THE FLOOD MITIGATION MEASURES THAT THE PROJECT WILL BRING WILL HELP IMMENSELY. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR HEARING THE CASE THIS EVENING. AND I'M AWARE THAT SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT PROJECT SPECIFICS, BUT NOT THE MF LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THAT FOREIGN LAND USE DESIGNATION. I HEARD THE DEVELOPERS THIS EVENING. THEY ARE COMMITTED TO CONTINUED COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS, AND I FULLY EXPECT MORE MEETINGS AFTER YOUR ACTION THIS EVENING. AND BEFORE THE JULY CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AGAIN, I SUPPORT THE REZONING AND THINK IT IS INAPPROPRIATE LAND USE FOR THE LOCATION. AND I ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST THIS EVENING. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORT AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MS. VALENTI. UM, LET'S SEE. NEXT ON THE LIST IS, UM, ELIZABETH ELLIOT CHAIR. COMMISSION-WISE ON HEAD FAIR. THAT CONCLUDES THOSE IN FAVOR, FULL MOVE TO OPPOSITION. OKAY. SO I HAVE FIRST, UH, JENNIFER LOWE, CHUCK COULD HELP WITH ANY REBUTTAL. JENNIFER, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YOU PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE CHAIR. I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE HER ON THE LINE. I'M GOING TO ATTEMPT TO REACH OUT TO HER. OKAY. AND WHAT ABOUT DYLAN? CAFFEY HI, THIS IS DAWN. I WAS STILL IN MCAFEE. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. OKAY. UM, THE LAST WEEK I HAVE SIGNED UP IS, UM, JEFF MILLER. HELLO? THIS IS JEFF MILLER. I SAID TO PROCEED. YES, GO AHEAD. OKAY, COOL. WELL, MY NAME IS JEFF MILLER. WE ARE HOMEOWNERS ON BEAVERBROOK LANE. THANK YOU FOR HEARING OUR VOICES TO BE CLEAR. WE ARE NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, JUST A GROUP OF CONCERNED NEIGHBORS. I'M ONLY SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY AS FULL HOMEOWNER IN THE EFFECTED AREA AND THE CURRENT KNOWN INFO. I'M OPPOSED TO THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION TO MS FOR SPICY CLAIMERS, BUT NO CHANGES. THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE CHANGES TO THE PLAN. SINCE WE STARTED THIS DISCUSSION, INCLUDING SOME ADDITIONAL CONCERNS ABOUT STORMWATER RUNOFF AND LACK OF CITY COMMITMENT TO UPGRADE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE BASED ON THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, I DO NOT FEEL THAT THIS LEVEL OF REZONING REQUEST IS A GOOD MATCH FOR OUR SURROUNDING SF NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WOULD NOT COMPLIMENT NOR ENHANCE THE IMMEDIATE AREA. AND WHEN IT HAPPENED, IT REALLY PRODUCED MORE STRAIN ON EXISTING ISSUES, CONCERNS, AND CURRENT OUTDATED INFRASTRUCTURE DO NOT FEEL AN MS FOUR WITH [01:45:01] MODERATE TO HIGH DENSITY, FOUR STORY STRUCTURE, THREE MUCH LESS THREE, FOUR STORY BUILDINGS. IN ADDITION TO TWO, AND THREE-STORY UNITS IS THE RIGHT FIT FOR OUR SINGLE FAMILY. ONE TO TWO STORY NEIGHBORHOOD. I UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING HOUSES ON MAIN ARTERIES. CURRENTLY THE MAIN ARTERY AND THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY FEEDS ONTO SOUTH FIRST 40 ANY DATA AND MAKE AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO TURN LAP FROM MARROW, WHICH IS OUR MAIN ENTRY TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND REQUIRED TRAFFIC LIGHT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SORT OF ONLY A BENEFIT ITSELF IN GREAT BRITAIN, UP CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING THE PROPOSED AREA. THE LESSER EAST WEST CONNECTING STREETS DID MARK. RALPH ARE BOTH JUST TWO LANES AND NOT SUFFICIENT FOR THE ATTIC TRAFFIC BURDEN. THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BRING ADDITIONALLY, RAFAEL BENITO HAS TWO AMS STATIONS AND DITMAR ALREADY HAS A CHOKE POINT ON THE BRIDGE OVER BOGGY CREEK WATERSHED, EITHER STREET WOULD BENEFIT FROM TRAFFIC BACKING UP WITHOUT IMPROVEMENT TO THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE CONCERNS REMAIN REGARDING STRESS ADDED TO THE AREAS ALREADY INADEQUATE DRAINAGE WHILE POTENTIAL ONSITE SOLUTIONS MAY ADDRESS THE ADDRESS BY THE DEVELOPER REGARDING THE DIRECTIONAL FLOW OF THE SHEETING TO ALLEVIATE CURRENT DIRECT NEIGHBORHOOD FLOODING. THE OVERALL ESTIMATED VOLUME WOULD ONLY POTENTIALLY BE DECREASED BY 10% OUTPUT IS SNOW FULLY BEING DIRECTED TO THE CUL-DE-SAC ON, OR WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN FLOODING IN THIS AREA, AS WELL AS OVER MARROW WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL PERVIOUS COVER OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT. MY FAMILY HAS OPTED TO PURCHASE A HOME IN A NEIGHBORHOOD ZONE FOR SINGLE FAMILY WITH MOSTLY HOMEOWNERS, EVEN RENTAL HOMES STILL HAVE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. I GREATLY VALUED A PERSONAL FINANCIAL INVESTMENT. MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS HAVE MADE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT RENTAL UNITS. WELL, WHEN WE PROVIDE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AN INTERNAL EBB AND FLOW OF RESIDENTS, MOVING IN AND OUT, THIS TYPE OF ADULT DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT CULTIVATE THE SAME SENSE OF PERSONAL INVESTMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. I FEEL OUR QUALITY OF LIFE WILL BE COMPROMISED BY ALL WHO NEIGHBORS DEVELOPMENT. I HAVE VALID CONCERNS REGARDING THE SOUND POLLUTION INVOLVED, AS WELL AS THE STRAIN ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE STREETS, CRIME, TRAFFIC, VIEWPOINTS, AND PRIVACY NOISE POLLUTION WOULD NOT BE CONFINED TO THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION SITE WHEN IT'S ESTIMATED TWO YEAR TIMELINE AT NOISE DUST ENCLOSURES, BUT ALSO WITH ITS 500 NEW PEOPLE IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY. THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF BUILDING OR VEGETATED BUFFER THAT WILL DROWN OUT THE SOUNDS OR SIGHTS ASSOCIATED WITH SUCH A LARGE COMPLEX AND NUMBER OF RESIDENTS. THE OTHER IMPORTANT NOTE, AS FAR AS I KNOW THERE, NO OTHER CURRENTLY APPROVED OR BUILT BETWEEN WILLIAM CANNON AND SLAUGHTER. WE WOULD SUPPORT THE CURRENT ZONING AS THE AGE OR MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AS A RESIDENT HOMEOWNER AND TAXPAYER. I KINDLY ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER ALLOWING SUCH AN EXCESSIVE ZONING CHANGED FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION CHAMPION, CHRISTINA MILLER. THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. UM, SO I BELIEVE THAT CONCLUDES OUR, UM, OUR SPEAKERS FOR THIS EVENING. AND NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE APPLICANT REBUTTAL, TERRY AND COMMISSIONER. UH, GIVE ME JERRY AND MRES I'LL TOUCH ON FOUR ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED. UH, NUMBER ONE IS THE FOUR-STORY, I MEAN, MUCH HAS BEEN MADE OF THE FOUR STORE IS AGAIN, LOOK AT THE CROSS SECTIONS AND THOSE WILL, THOSE WILL BE HIDDEN, UH, NOT ONLY THERE IN LINE WITH OTHER PROJECTS IN THE, IN THE GENERAL VICINITY, ESPECIALLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, BUT THERE'LL BE HIDDEN BEHIND A VEGETATED BUFFERING, A NINE FOOT FENCE AND THEN A 45 FOOT SETBACK AND THEN TWO AND THREE STORIES. AND THEN YOU WON'T SEE THE, THE FOUR STORIES THAT FROM, FROM THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ROUGHLY TWO THIRDS OF A FOOTBALL FIELD AWAY. AND THEN SECONDLY, TRANSPORTATION, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, A SIGNAL DUAL TURN LANES ARE NOT ONLY GOING TO BENEFIT THAT INTERSECTION AND INCREASE TRAFFIC AND INCREASE THE MANAGEMENT OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA, BUT ALSO PROVIDE FOR OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THOSE LIGHTS HIT TO WHEN THAT LIGHT TURNS GREEN AND RED FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO EXIT MARROWS STREET OR ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT THE DRAINAGE WE'VE WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. I MEAN, BASICALLY WE'RE, WE'RE EXCEEDING AND OVER DETAINING BY 10% OVER, OVER AND ABOVE CODE. AND THOSE TWO ITEMS ALONE ARE ROUGHLY 1.7 MONTHS, A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, IN TODAY'S AS CITY ENVIRONMENT, IT IS IN FACT, A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT FUNDS, UM, MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING MUCH NEEDS DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I WOULD JUST CLOSE WITH THE APPROXIMATE PROJECTS, A SLIDE THAT I SHOWED AGAIN, THIS, UH, UH, LIMITED FOUR STORY, UH, MF FOUR, I CALL IT MF FOUR LIGHT BECAUSE ALL OF THE DEEP CEO'S OF THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT, UM, 50 FEET, MAXIMUM HEIGHT, MAXIMUM 45 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE NORTH EAST AND WEST. [01:50:01] UM, THIS IS CERTAINLY A RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT THE PROJECTS IN THE AREA. AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. HARTMAN. SO, UM, NEXT WE NEED TO VOTE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING OR EMOTION FROM, UM, MR. DINKLER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING IT'S UNANIMOUS. OKAY. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION. ANYBODY WANT TO GO FIRST COMMISSIONER SMITH? I'VE GOT TO GO FIRST. UM, I THINK THIS IS A PROJECT. THINK IT'S BENEFITED A LOT FROM MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THEY'VE MADE A LOT OF CHANGES, BUT I FELT WHAT THEY'VE COME UP WITH. I THINK THEY'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF BUY-IN FROM A LOT OF THEM. WE STILL HAVE SOME THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE HAPPY. UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE CASE IN AUSTIN. UM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO JUST ARE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON NEXT DOOR. UM, BUT I THINK THEY'VE MADE A LOT OF ACCOMMODATIONS. THEY MADE A LOT OF THEY'VE INCREASED ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT CODE REQUIRES FOR BRAIN EACH FOR SETBACKS BUFFERS. UM, THEY'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO. AND A LOT OF AREAS. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT. I THINK IT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, IN OTHER AREAS OR VERY CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION OF STAFF SEARCH AND SLAUGHTER. AND IF YOU LOOK OFFICE PROBLEM SLAUGHTER LANE ON SOUTH FIRST STREET ON CONGRESS, ON MANCHESTER, YOU SEE THE SAME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS TAKING PLACE IN THAT SAME CORRIDOR. UH, SO I THINK THIS IS IN KEEPING WITH WHAT WE'RE SAYING EARLIER. YOU'VE GOT A BUS STOP IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, SO WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION ISSUE. WE'VE GOT A TRAFFIC LIGHT GOING IN. UM, AND SO I THINK IT JUST HITS ALL THE BUTTONS FOR WHAT WE NEED TO SEE IN THIS AREA. AND I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO SUPPORT THE ROGER. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RAY. UH, A LOT OF THOSE COMMENTS. UM, I'M DEFINITELY SUPPORTING THIS ONE TONIGHT. UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW A REZONING CAN TRIGGER IMPROVEMENTS THAT OTHERWISE WOULDN'T HAPPEN. UM, JUST AGAIN, HITTING HOME THAT NUMBER 1.7, $5 MILLION WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS. UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SAFER INTERSECTION. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING AN ENVIRONMENT WALKABLE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO WALK AND TAKE THE BUS TO GET PLACES NOW. UM, WE'RE A BIG CITY AND THIS IS WHAT TRANSPORTATION LOOKS LIKE FOR US. UM, FROM HERE ON OUT. I THINK THE OTHER PIECE I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT DIDN'T, UM, SHINE THROUGH IN THE PRESENTATION IS THAT THIS ALSO HAS A VOLUNTARY PORTABILITY COMPONENT. UM, WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE THAT WITH THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THERE'S MORE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, UM, SHORTER PARTICIPATING IN LIKE AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM. UM, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE COMPONENT IN THIS PROJECT PERIOD WHERE IT NOT FOR, UM, HEIGHTENED DENSITY. UM, SO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CAME THROUGH, UM, THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE GETTING MORE HOUSING PERIOD, BUT WE'RE ALSO GETTING SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH THIS PROJECT. I HAVE TO SAY THAT I SEE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS PROJECT, BUT I'M STILL GOING TO VOTE AGAINST, BECAUSE I LIKE TO SEE THINGS IN WRITING. I LIKE TO SEE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS IN WRITING AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO NAIL DOWN THEIR AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT. AND I'VE EXCHANGED AN EMAIL WITH MR. HARTMAN AND I APPRECIATE HIM WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE WHO'S GOING TO MANAGE AND MAKE SURE THERE IS SOMEBODY MANAGING, UM, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT BECAUSE AN AUDIT OF A FEW YEARS AGO SHOWED THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WAS BEING CREATED. SO, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS BEING TURNED INTO RESIDENTIAL. I THINK THAT'S A WISE CALL HERE, BUT I JUST WANT TO SEE DETAILS NAILED. I WANT TO SEE THINGS IN WRITING COMMISSIONER DINKLER I ACTUALLY HAD QUESTIONS. IS THERE ANYBODY FROM DRAINAGE STAFF PRESENT, UM, THAT CAN SPEAK TO THE COMMITMENTS THAT MR OR THE APPLICANT HAS MADE IN THE POWERPOINT, BUT I DON'T SEE WRITTEN INTO THE BACKUP. UM, AND HE THEY'RE PROMISING, UH, THEY HAD, I BELIEVE A DRAINAGE ENGINEER SPEAKING AND SAYING, THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, REGRADE, THEY'RE GOING TO ADD A, A BERM THEY'RE GOING TO REGRADE. THEY'RE GOING TO, UM, DO CAPTURE, UH, [01:55:01] TO INCREASE 10%. WILL THOSE SOLUTIONS ADDRESS THE FLOODING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SPOKEN TO? AND CAN, WILL YOU REQUIRE THOSE, GIVEN THE COMMENT, THE, THE MEETING THAT I ASSUME YOU WERE PRESENT AT, UH, AND, UM, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE THROUGH REPUBLIC RC, PRIVATE RC? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE COMMENTS AND IF WE NEED TO GET THE SLIDES UP FROM THE APPLICANT SO YOU CAN HIT EACH INDIVIDUAL POINT? UH, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR ME. DAVID, ARE YOU ON THE LINE, DAVID MARQUEZ, WENDY? YES. HELLO. IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THE COMMISSION QUESTION. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW, WENDY? YES. YEAH. GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, SORRY. UH, THIS IS DAVID MARQUEZ. UM, I WORK WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND I, I REVIEW FOR DRAINAGE AND WATER QUALITY. UM, AND I GUESS YOU ASKED A BIT OF THINGS, BUT, BUT THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS, UM, WE DON'T TYPICALLY REVIEW AT ZONING, BUT THERE IS A, THERE, THERE IS A WAIVER THAT IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED, UM, TO, TO BE COMPLETED FOR THE PROPOSAL THAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR, BECAUSE WATER IS BEING REDIRECTED FROM THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS TO RIGHT AWAY. SO TECHNICALLY, ALTHOUGH THEY WERE PROPOSING THAT A DECREASE IN FLOW, THERE IS AN INCREASE OF FLOW OR DRIVE. UH, SO THAT WILL REQUIRE A WAIVER. AND WE CAN, WE CAN IRON OUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT, THAT YOU WERE, UM, SPEAKING OF, UM, AND THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S NOT REALLY A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT I'VE SEEN OR ANYTHING TIED TO THAT, BUT WE COULD TIE IT INTO THE, UH, TO THE WAIVER. WE CAN HEAR YOU COMMISSIONER. DINKLER SORRY. UM, I DIDN'T HAVE MY MOM TO, UH, REMIND ME, UM, MR. MARQUEZ, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE WAIVER MEANS OR DOES THAT MEAN WE SEE THE S UM, WAIVER FOR REQUIRED FOR YOU? IS IT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO GO TO ZAP? UM, HOW DO I KNOW THESE CONDITIONS WILL ONE WORK AND TWO THAT THEY'LL BE REQUIRED? AND I AM HEARING, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE WATER, UH, INTO OR STREET. UM, AND I DID HEAR THAT THE APPLICANT MENTIONED POTENTIALLY WORKING ON THE INLET, WHICH I DIDN'T SEE IN THE PRESENTATION. DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE WHETHER THIS WOULD HELP ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS OR NOT? RIGHT. SO THERE'S STILL GOING TO BE FLOODING CONCERNS AT THE END OF THE DAY. THERE'S A LOT OF WATER THAT THE APPLICANT IS CAPTURING AND DIVERTING TO OR DRIVE. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THE NUMBERS ARE THERE'S, THERE ARE NUMBERS THAT THE ENGINEER HAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD SHOW IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO SEE THE NUMBERS. UM, BUT WHAT THEY ARE BASICALLY DOING IS TAKING ALL THE WATER IS BASICALLY SHEET FLOWING ONTO RESIDENTIAL LOTS. SO THEY'RE GOING DIRECTLY ONTO THE NEIGHBORING LOT. THEY'RE CAPTURING THE WATER SO THAT NO WATER IS GOING OVER INTO THOSE BONDS. AND THEY'RE BASICALLY DISCHARGED YOU GET INTO THE RIGHT OF, SO THAT THERE WILL BE NO DISCHARGE ON TWO RESIDENTIAL RODS. UM, THE, THE WAIVER IS REQUIRED FOR OUR, OUR CRITERIA AND CODE. WE HAVE A SPECIFIC SECTION THAT STATES THAT NO INCREASE OF POINT DISCHARGE CAN OCCUR WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT. SO IN ORDER TO TAKE AWAY THE WATER FROM THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND, AND DISCHARGE IT ONTO, OR, UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A WAIVER THAT'S REQUIRED. AND WATERSHED ENGINEERING WAS ALSO SOMEBODY, A REPRESENTATIVE WAS THERE AND THAT PERSON WILL WORK WITH ME TO, UM, WORK ON THE WAIVER AS PART OF THE WAIVER. WE DID ASK THAT, UM, ALISON, THE ENGINEER, SHE, THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TO DO CALCULATIONS, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY WE'LL HAVE A CAPACITY IN THE INSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO SHE HAS DONE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REVIEW OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERING WORK ON THIS, JUST TO SEE IF THE RIGHT WE HAD CAPACITY. AND SHE DEMONSTRATED THAT IT DID, UH, WE USUALLY DO THESE AT SITE PLANNING OR CONSTRUCTION PLANS. UM, BUT INSIDE OF THAT WAIVER THAT THEY NEED TO, TO BE PROCESSED BEFORE THEY CAN GET THE ACTUAL SITE LAND PERMIT TO DO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. UH, WE CAN PROPOSE CONDITIONS ONTO THAT WAIVER THAT, THAT RESTRICT THE AMOUNT OF FLOW THAT THEY CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY CAN DISCHARGE OFF OF THEIR SIDE. GOTCHA. BUT YOU CAN, YOU REQUIRE A 10% [02:00:01] INCREASED CAPTURE SUBTERRANEAN. UM, YEAH. DETAILS CAN BE WORKED OUT INSIDE OF THE WAIVER. AND WHERE DID YOU GRANT THE WAIVER? THEY BASICALLY HAVE TO, THEY CAN'T REALLY GET A PERMIT WITHOUT THE WAIVER. AND IF THEY, IF THEY TRY TO GET A PERMIT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, UM, OUR DEPARTMENTS ACCEPTING IT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COUNCIL. SO IN ORDER TO NOT TO DO THAT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET ANY BASICALLY, UH, RULES OR GUIDELINES THAT WE PUT FORWARD. SO WE CAN PUT CERTAIN THINGS IN INSIDE OF THAT WAIVER. RIGHT NOW, THE WAIVER IS NOT GRANTED, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE PARTICULARS. GOTCHA. OKAY. UM, AND IS, UH, THANK YOU MR. MARQUEZ. AND ONE MORE QUESTION OF COMMISSION CAN BEAR WITH ME. UH, IS TRANSPORTATION STAFF HERE, PD AMBER, COULD, COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN? I'M SORRY. THIS IS AMBER HUTCHINS ATD. UH, THE QUESTION I HAD IS THE APPLICANT SAYS HE WILL DO A TRAFFIC LIGHT. UM, AND THERE'S SOME PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS BY THE ENGINEER AND LOOKING AT WHAT THEY GENERATE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC IMPACT. UM, WHILE I'M REAL GRATEFUL FOR LEFT TURN LANES AT A TRAFFIC LIGHT, UH, BUT HIS, A COMMITMENT BEEN MADE YOU'D HAVEN'T REALLY HAD THE ANALYSIS YET. ARE YOU RECORDING? ARE YOU REQUIRING THAT THEY DO A LIGHT OR NOT? BECAUSE WHAT I READ IN THE BACKUP WAS A TIA MAY BE REQUIRED AT TIME OF SITE PLAN. AND I HAVE AN APPLICANT SAYING I WILL DO A LIGHT IN THESE TURN LANES, WHICH WOULD ADDRESS THE IMPACT OF THE DENSITY, UH, FOR THOSE WHO USE VEHICLES. UM, IT'S A GREAT SITE FOR, FOR A BUS. UM, BUT HOW DO I KNOW THAT THERE'S A COMMITMENT THAT, THAT WILL HAPPEN? IT'S IT'S NOT WRITTEN INTO THE CEO. IT'S NOT, UM, SURE. MAY NOT HAVE BEEN, CAN YOU FILL ME IN PLACE? YES, I'LL TRY. UM, SO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WITH THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW, DOESN'T EXCEED 2000 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY, WHICH IS THE LIMIT THAT THE CODE HAS FOR REQUIRING A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. SO I CAN'T ACTUALLY REQUIRE THAT STUDY OF THEM WITH THEIR CURRENT PROPOSAL LEVEL THAT SAID, UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING A DRIVEWAY THAT LINES UP WITH GREAT BRITAIN. AND WHEN THAT OCCURS FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, WE HAVE TO REQUIRE A SIGNAL AT THAT SITE. IT ALSO MEETS WARRANTS. A SIGNAL IS A GOOD LOCATION. UH, THAT'S A GOOD LOCATION FOR A SIGNAL. OUR SIGNALS DIVISION HAS ALREADY ASSESSED IT. UM, DO WE HAVE AN ACTUAL DOCUMENT THAT STATES THAT THEY WILL BUILD IT? NO, WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO ON THE SITE AND THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THEM, UM, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE AGREEMENT AS IT STANDS, BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT OR A W AND WE CAN'T REQUEST A TIA RIGHT NOW. UM, RIGHT. AND I TOTALLY GET IT. UM, AND YOUR UNDERSTANDING IS THE APPLICANT WILL FULLY FUND THE LIGHT, UH, FOR SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS. UH, AND I KNOW IT HAS TO ALIGN WITH GREAT BRITAIN. SO, UM, IS THERE ANY, UH, ANY UNDERSTANDING IN TERMS OF THE LEFT TURN LANE IN, AND THE, THE CONSTRUCTION ON SOUTH FIRST TO MAKE TURN LINE THERE? YEAH. YEAH. THERE'LL BE BUILDING WITH THE SIGNAL NORTH AND SOUTHBOUND TURN LANES. UM, SO THAT IT'LL FUNCTION APPROPRIATELY. YES. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER BRAY IS NEXT THEN RAY AND KING GRANT. SORRY. I ALWAYS HIT ON HANDOUTS THAT HAVE UNUSED, UH, UH, I WANT TO ASK THAT THE WATERSHED STAFF, UM, AND, OR THE APPLICANT MAYBE HAS AN ANSWER TO THIS, BUT PROBABLY WATERSHED. UH, IS THERE ANY, UM, THE PART OF LIKE THE DRAINAGE PLAN WHERE IT'S DRAINING, UH, WILL THAT LEAD TO ANY MORE LIKE ONSITE ABSORPTION OF THE WATER, OR IS IT JUST CHANNELING IT ALL AWAY TO THE, OR DRIVER INTO THE DETENTION POND? IS THERE, IS THERE ANY EFFORT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WILL THIS HELP AT ALL WITH THE, LIKE ABSORBING THE WATER ON THE SITE AND HAVE IT PERCOLATE INTO THE GROUND ON THE SITE? UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF THE WATER'S KIND OF SPREAD OUT, YOU KNOW, ON THE SITE LONGER THAN IT, YOU KNOW, WITH W MORE COVERAGE OF GROUND AREA, HI, ALISON GAMBIT WITH KIMLEY-HORN [02:05:01] CIVIL ENGINEERS FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, I'M GOING TO TRY AND ADDRESS THAT ONE. SO I, AS PART OF THE PROJECT, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT SUBTERRANEAN DETENTION POND, WHICH WOULD CAPTURE ALL OF OUR ONSITE FLOW AND KIND OF SLOW IT DOWN, UM, OVER DETAINING IT TO REDUCE BY 10% THE EXISTING WE'LL ALSO BE PROPOSING A WATER QUALITY POND, UM, THAT WILL ALSO CAPTURE SOME OF THAT WATER AND WORK TO REDUCE THE SLOWS AND, UM, WELL, THE SOIL THERE IN GREAT, IT PROBABLY WON'T INFILTRATE. IT WILL TREAT IT BEFORE WE DISCHARGE IT INTO, UM, OR DRIVE. ALL RIGHT. I TH I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. UM, YOU KNOW, MY GENERAL IMPRESSION IS IT SEEMS TO BE IN IT, LIKE ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, WE'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING SOMETHING HERE, ACTUALLY IMPROVES THE DRAINAGE SITUATION. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE FRAMING TENDS TO BE ABOUT IMPERVIOUS COVER ALWAYS MAKES THINGS WORSE. UM, AND YOU KNOW, IT CAN, BUT IN THIS CASE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS MORE THAN MAKING UP FOR THAT. SO I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH THIS PROJECT IN THAT WAY. UM, UH, I ALSO WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A PEDESTRIAN GATE, UH, WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN GATES ARE GONNA BE, AND WILL PEOPLE BE ABLE TO, LIKE, WE'LL HAVE TO LIKE WALK AROUND TO THE ENTRANCE, OR WILL IT BE IN A PEDESTRIAN GATE, SOUTH OF, UH, UM, GREAT BRITAIN BOULEVARD FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WALK TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTH FIRST STREET. THIS IS MAC ROSS WITH WAYFINDER. WE'LL HAVE A MINIMUM OF TWO PEDESTRIAN GATES ALONG SOUTH FIRST, UH, AND LIKELY THREE. UM, THOSE, THE CONSIDERATION THAT HAS TO BE MADE WITH THOSE GATES IS JUST ENSURING THAT WE HAVE ADA ACCESS TO EACH OF THEM, UH, WHICH ON A SITE WITH, UM, TOPO LIKE THIS ONE, UH, REQUIRE SOME COORDINATION, BUT AT PRESENT PLANS CALL FOR A MINIMUM OF THREE GATES. AND THAT'LL BE THAT, THAT THAT'LL BE CONSISTENT WITH PRACTICE OF WHAT WE'D NORMALLY ASSUME ON A SITE OF THIS SIZE. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER RAY, JUST A BRIEF COMMENT ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AGAIN. UM, I WANT TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN, UM, LIKE FORMAL AFFORDABLE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE OFTEN USED TO SEEING THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING X UNITS FOR SURE, AT THIS PERCENTAGE AME AMI VERSUS WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE, WHICH IS VOLUNTARY. UM, THE REASON WHY THERE ISN'T A MORE LIKE FORMAL AGREEMENT BAKED INTO THIS ONE IS BECAUSE IT'S VOLUNTARY. UM, WHEREAS THE FORMER SITUATION, WHICH WE SEE MORE OFTEN, UM, YOU HAVE TO DO LIKE A LAND USE RESTRICTIVE AGREEMENT, SO THAT THAT'S BAKED INTO WHAT WE SEE AT ZAP. UM, SPEAKING AS SOMEONE THAT WORKS FOR AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER AND PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, IT'S REALLY UNCONVENTIONAL TO ENTER INTO LIKE AN AFFORDABILITY MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU HAVE A PROPERTY TO MANAGE. UM, SO GIVEN THAT I'M, I'M WILLING TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT ON THAT, THAT THOSE GROUNDS, UM, JUST LIKE IN GOOD FAITH THAT THE AFFORDABILITY PLEDGE WILL MATERIALIZE, UM, GIVEN THAT IT'S BEING DONE VOLUNTARILY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, AND THEN VICE CHAIR. KOBASA THANK YOU, CHAIR. UM, UM, I DID HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED ON THE CITY PARKS DEFICIENT MAP, AND THIS, THIS SITE IS SURROUNDED BY AREAS THAT ARE DEFICIENT IN PARKLAND. SO I GUESS MY POINT THERE IS THAT, UH, OR A POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS I THINK IF WE CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT THAT, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE ISSUES THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DRESS. AND SO THAT'S ONE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, I THINK MORE DISCUSSION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE HERE TO MAKE THIS AN EVEN BETTER PROJECT HERE. SO, UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE DRAINAGE, UM, UH, THE, UH, UH, THE POINT ABOUT DRAINAGE OF STORMWATER ONTO THE PUBLIC RIGHT. OF WAY OR DRIVE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO CAPTURE THE WATER THAT'S ONSITE, PUT IT INTO A RETENTION POND ONSITE, AND THEN DRAIN IT ONTO THE PUBLIC RIGHT. OF WAY, UH, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER TIME. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT, THAT QUESTION IS FOR, I GUESS, WATERSHED STAFF. SURE. UM, YEAH, CURRENTLY IT, IT DRAINS ON TO IT KIND OF OVERLAND FLOWS ONTO THE RESIDENTIAL LIFE. UM, AND YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT. THEY WILL BE, UM, CAPTURING IT AND DISCHARGING ON TO OR DRIVE. UM, ULTIMATELY THE WATER WILL PRETTY MUCH GET TO THE SAME SPOT ON BEAVERBROOK, WHICH IS MAYBE, YOU KNOW, A BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY. AND BY THAT POINT, ALL THE, ALL THE SNOW WILL BE BASICALLY, UH, GOING TO THE SAME LOCATION. BUT UNTIL THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FLOW THAT'S GOING ON TO, OR A WORD DRIVE. [02:10:01] THANK YOU. AND, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO USE THAT AS ME, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE IN MY, I LIVE IN THE ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'VE HAD A DEVELOPMENT HERE OFF SOUTH DAMAR, UH, AND HEATHER DRIVE IN THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS THERE THAT DEVELOPMENT, UH, RETAINS THE WATER, UH, SUBTERRANEAN AND THEN DUMPS IT ONTO THE STREET THERE ONTO HEATHER DRIVE. AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT WATER DOESN'T GO DIRECTLY INTO A STORM DRAIN. IT GOES DOWN TO THE INTERSECTION, CROSSES OVER THE INTERSECTION, CURVES AROUND TO THE OTHER STREET AND FINALLY GOES INTO THE STORM DRAIN. AND IN THE MEANTIME, THAT HAS HAD TO BE REPAIRED MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE PAST YEAR BECAUSE OF THAT DRAINAGE. SO I JUST WORRY THAT, THAT WE'RE TRYING THESE SORT OF SHORTCUT WAYS TO GET, TO CAPTURE OUR STORMWATER AND REDIRECT IT, BUT STILL DEFEATING THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. I THINK IT'S, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT, THAT WATER IS GOING TO FLOW. HOW FAR DOES THAT WATER FLOW FROM THIS SITE UNTIL IT FINALLY GETS INTO A STORM DRAIN AND ACTUAL STORM DRAIN? AND ALISON COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN I, UH, I KNOW THERE IS, UM, THERE IS DRAINAGE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN BEAVERBROOK THAT IT GOES BETWEEN HOUSES AND THEN ULTIMATELY IT HITS SOUTH BOGGY CREEK. UM, THERE'S NOT ANY, YOU KNOW, REAL INFRASTRUCTURE. SO, UM, THE APPLICANTS AND I, WE DID REACH OUT TO WATERSHED ENGINEERING TO SEE IF THERE WAS DIFFERENT OPTIONS. THERE, THERE ISN'T REALLY, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S IN THE, OUR, OUR LIST OF, I GUESS, PARTY FOR DRAINAGE TO IMPROVE SOMETHING IN THE AREA. SO OVER DETENTION FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE THEN WAS BASICALLY THE OPTION THAT, UM, THE DIRECTION THAT'S BEST FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT WITH NO CITY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA. SO THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANTS GOING FORWARD WITH. THEY DID HAVE A DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS TO TRY TO CONNECT WITH THE, WITH THE CREEK A LITTLE BIT FOR THE DOWNSTREAM, BUT THE CREEK ITSELF IS ALSO UNDERSIZED, RIGHT? AND SO I GUESS THE WHITE COP, I GUESS, I JUST WONDER WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRING THE TRENDS DURING TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE. WHEN THESE DRAINAGE SYSTEMS ARE PUT IN PLACE TO DRAIN WATER DIRECTLY ONTO THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE EXAMPLE, I JUST ARE THE TAXPAYERS FIXING THAT, OR IS THE DEVELOPER FIXING THAT BECAUSE THE WATER IS COMING FROM THE DEVELOPER'S SIDE, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THOSE ROADWAY REPAIRS, UM, ALISON MICHIGANBER WITH KIMLEY-HORN, IF I COULD JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THE INLET. SO WE DO HAVE PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE END OF OR DRIVE. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S AN EXISTING FUNNEL THAT WAS DESIGNED WITH THE ORIGINAL PHONE VISION PLANS TO CAPTURE THESE SWALED WATER TOWARDS THE END OF, OR AS PART OF THIS, WE'LL BE UPGRADING THAT FOR SAFETY REASONS TO HAVE A FOUR BY FOUR BOX, WHICH WILL BE SIZED TO TAKE OUR ONSITE FLOWS IN THE EVENT THAT THE DOWNSTREAM STRESS SYSTEM CAN TAKE THEM. SO DURING THE LOWER STORE EVENTS WHERE THE ONSITE OR THE PUBLIC STORM SYSTEM IS FUNCTIONING, OUR WATER WILL GO DIRECTLY UNDERGROUND, ADD OR DRIVE INTO THAT STORM SYSTEM. WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A SHEET FLOW CONDITION IN THE EVENT THAT THE PUBLIC SYSTEM DOWNGRADING CANNOT TAKE OUR WATER. SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR BACKUP CONDITION FOR THOSE HIGHER STORM EVENTS WHERE THE FLOODPLAIN HAS CAUSED CAPACITY ISSUES IN THAT DOWNSTREAM SYSTEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, UH, THE, UM, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THAT IN THE BACKUP I LOOKED AND LOOKED AND LOOKED AND I'M NOT SURE I DID SOMEHOW, I GUESS I MISSED IT. UH, BUT, BUT I THINK, UH, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT THAT THERE WERE, UH, 290 UNITS TOTAL IN 10% OF THOSE UNITS, WHICH WOULD BE 29 UNITS WOULD BE AT 80% MFI. AND THESE ARE RENTAL UNITS. UH, SO COULD YOU CLARIFY, UH, THAT THOSE, UH, THAT IT'S 10% OF 290 UNITS, UM, AT 80% MFI IN IS, AND HOW LONG IS THIS AFFORDABLE, UH, INCOME RESTRICTED PERIOD? YEAH, THIS IS MAC MAC WITH WAYFINDER. I CAN RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION AND CON, AND AS IT RELATES TO COMMISSIONER TO YOUR BOSS'S QUESTION TOO, SO WE WILL, WE WILL HANDLE THIS VIA A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, AND IT WILL BE 10% AT 80% MFI THAT TAKES PLACE DURING THE CITY COUNCIL. IT CAN'T TAKE PLACE AT SAP. IT WILL BE RECORDED AS A PRIVATE, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IN SEQUENCE IN SIMULTANEOUS TO THE SUCCESSFUL REZONE, SHOULD WE BE SUCCESSFUL? AND, AND THAT IS HOW IT, THAT IS HOW EVERY TIME WE CAN, WE CAN, UM, FORMALLY CREATE ON-SITE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE DID THIS ON OUR LAST REZONE. I WAS A PARTY TO, UM, FOR, UH, UH, SEVEN ONE THREE FIVE EAST BEEN WHITE REZONE, LESS THAN A YEAR AGO. UM, PUTTING THE SAME, UM, UM, UH, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IN EFFECT WITH, UM, A THIRD PARTY, THIS, IN THAT INSTANCE, IT WAS HOMEBASE BEING THE OTTER AND IT WAS IN PLACE FOR A PERIOD OF 40 YEARS. SO THOSE ARE THE DETAILS OF THAT PRIVATE, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. THAT'S THE EVIDENCE OF THAT. WE, WE DO WHAT WE SAY. WE, WE OFFERED IT LAST [02:15:01] TIME AND WE'RE, AND WE'RE READY TO OFFER IT AGAIN. AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROCEDURE THAT, THAT IS AVAILABLE TO US. THANK YOU. SO WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, THERE WILL BE A 10% OF THE UNITS WILL BE, UH, INCOME RESTRICTED WHEN THERE ARE RENTAL TO BE INCOME RESTRICTED FOR 40 YEARS, OR FAMILIES EARNING AT 80% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION. AND, UH, I GUESS BEFORE I JUST, UH, TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE CHAIR HERE, THE, IN TERMS OF THE PARK DEFICIENT AREA HERE, CAN SOMEONE RESPOND TO THAT? I UNDERSTAND IN THE BACKUP, IT TALKS ABOUT THEY MAY HAVE TO PAY A FEE IN LIEU OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT HOW, HOW, HOW IS STAFF ADDRESSING THAT, THAT CONCERN, UH, WITH REGARDS TO PARKLAND? THIS IS WENDY ROADS ISSUE. YES. MR. RHODES, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE WAS ON, ON THE, YOU KNOW, IN LIEU OR ONSITE, UH, PARKING LOT HERE. UH, THE COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT INDICATE THAT THEY, THE PARKLAND WILL BE, UM, IT WILL BE REQUIRED AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S ADDRESSED AT THE TIME OF, OF THE SITE PLAN. OKAY. AND MS. ROWE, JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONSITE PARKLAND, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT FEE AND LOOP? UH, THAT HASN'T YET BEEN DETERMINED HAS GONE. OKAY. YES. ONE OR THE OTHER IT IS REQUIRED. UH, MUST BE THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH AN EARLY DETERMINATION. UM, THAT DECISION IS MADE WITH THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS, UH, A SITE PLAN APPLICATION. VERY MUCH VICE CHAIR KIELBASA. OKAY. YEAH, JUST TO FOLLOW UP. CAUSE I, UM, I'M THE MANAGING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAUSE AND I APPRECIATE THAT MR. HARTMAN HAD REALIZED THAT HE NEEDED TO MANAGE, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND SO HE HAD MENTIONED IN HIS EMAIL THAT HE WAS LOOKING AT A THIRD PARTY PROVIDER LIKE HOME-BASED, BUT IT WAS CLEAR FROM THE BACKUP AND FROM MY EMAIL EXCHANGE WITH HIM THAT IT JUST WASN'T, IT HADN'T BEEN FLUSHED OUT. AND THAT IS WHY I THOUGHT IT WOULD JUST BE NICE TO HAVE DETAILS. AND HE DID SAY IT WAS GOING TO BE FINALIZED BY THE COUNCIL DATE. SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE OR A LOT MORE THOUGHT THROUGH, BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'RE ALL TRYING TO DO. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO, I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO, OR DRIVE, UM, EMISSION OR BRAY WAS ASKING ABOUT THE GATES ON SOUTH FIRST STREET. JUST WONDERING IF FOLKS THAT WERE ACCESSING GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO, OR DRIVE AND BACKERS THE WHOLE THING GOING TO BE GATED, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? WE UNDERSTAND THAT IS A CHAIR CHAIR. IS THAT A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES. SO IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING. THIS IS MAC MONOCROP REPLAY FONDER. SO IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM THE, THE PREVIOUS ZONING ORDINANCE THAT CONNECTIVITY, UM, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY AND, AND BICYCLE CONNECTIVITY, UM, TO, OR DRIVE, UH, WAS, UM, RECOMMENDED AND A CONDITION TO THAT REZONE. AND, AND BASED ON, UM, CORRESPONDENCE WITH STAFF IS TO BE EXPECTED, UM, AS A REQUEST FROM STAFF HERE, UM, IN THAT SCENARIO THAT CONNECTIVITY, UM, WOULD, WOULD LIKELY WOULD, WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD CREATE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN SOUTH FIRST AND OR DRIVE AND COULD TAKE THE FORM OF A, OF A TRAIL THAT, UH, WAS, THAT WAS, UH, UH, AVAILABLE OUTSIDE OF ANY, UM, PERIMETER FENCE AND THEREBY AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FROM SOUTH FIRST, UM, OR COULD, UH, ALTERNATIVELY, UM, BE DIRECT CONNECTIVITY WITH, WITH OUR PERIMETER FENCE EXTENDING ALL THE WAY TO THE ADJACENT PERIMETER, THEREBY, UM, THEREBY, UH, LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF CONNECTIVITY TO, TO WHERE IT'S, IT'S REALLY A FUNCTION OF, OF, OF RESIDENTS ACCESS TO OR DRIVE. IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT FULL CONNECTIVITY IS, IS THE INTENT AND THE DESIRE. AND, AND IF SO, THAT WOULD BE ACCOMMODATED BY, BY LEAVING A TRAIL ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE THAT, THAT CREATED THAT CONNECTIVITY. OKAY. SO THERE WOULD BE LIKE A COATED GATE FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD ACCESS OR DRIVE BY BICYCLE OR [02:20:01] WALKING. AND THEN FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WANT TO GET TO GREAT BRITAIN BY BIKING AND WALKING, THEY COULD GO ALONG THAT 45 FOOT BUFFER, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WILL YOU BE BUILDING, CONSTRUCTING SOMETHING THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT? YEAH. OKAY. LIKE A TRAIL. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. JUST CHECKING BECAUSE I LIKE THE IDEA OF A BIKE BIKE PAD CONNECTIVITY, AND THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, IF YOU'RE ACCESSING, UH, THE BUS STOPS THAT ARE THERE. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER SMITH, JUST ON THE DRAINAGE SO THAT I UNDERSTAND HIM AND EVERYBODY ELSE. AND IF THAT'S THE CITY CODE WOULD ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER TO SPREAD THE FLOW ACROSS THE BACKYARDS, THE LOTS THAT THE BACKUP AND OBJECTIVE STUDENT, UM, SO THAT HE MAKES THE SAME FLOAT CONDITIONERS THERE. NOW, IF HE DOES WHAT CURRENT CODE ALLOWS YOU BE CONTINUING TO FLOOD THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, UH, TO AVOID THAT HE HAS TO GET AWAY, UM, AND GO AGAINST CODE AND WRAP THE FLOW DOWN TO ORLANDO. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE WAIVER IS TO DO IS TO ENCOURAGE HIM NOT TO COMPLY WITH CODES, BUT THAT NOT FLOOD ADJACENT PROPERTY AT THE SAME TIME. AND THEY ARE UPGRADING THE SWIM BREAK SYSTEM IN ORLEANS, SO THAT ON THE LOW FLOWS, IT WILL FUNCTION BETTER AGAIN, ON THE HIGH FLOWS, THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS SATURATED. THEY CAN DO BECAUSE THE LEVEL OF THE PRIESTS HAVE RISEN SO MUCH. SO I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB. I'M ON THE TRAINING SIDE, NOT STRICTLY COMPLYING WITH CODE, BUT DOING, THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND DOING WHAT'S NECESSARY TO SOLVE MORE PROBLEMS BY DOING THIS AND THEN OVERTAKE PAINTING OUTSIDE TO HELP THE OVERALL SYSTEM IMPROVE. MR. DINKLER SORRY. SAY THAT AGAIN. IS THAT A GOOD SUMMARY OF HOW THE DRAINAGE WORKS? THE CITY STAFF OR BELONG? OKAY. SORRY. WAS YOUR QUESTION, IS THAT, IS THAT HOW IT, IS THAT HOW THE PERMITTING, I GUESS, RULES, THE REASON I HAVE TO GET THE ONE THAT GENERALLY REQUIRES YES. YEAH. THIS IS, THIS IS DAVID MARQUEZ WITH DSE JOURNEYS REVIEW AND YEAH, THAT'S BASICALLY, UM, YOU'RE CORRECT ON THOSE RULES IN ORDER TO, THEY COULD TECHNICALLY GET A PERMIT WITHOUT, UM, WITH TECHNICALLY, BUT DISCHARGING IT AND SIMILAR CONDITIONS AS IT IS TODAY. BUT THE WAIVER IS BECAUSE THERE'S AN INCREASE OF FLOWS AT THE RIGHT OF WAY. MR. DINK, LARRY, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? YOU HAVE YOU'RE ON MUTE. UM, THANKS. THANKS. UM, MADAM CHAIR SLASH MOM, UM, THE MR. MARQUEZ CODE WOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON DRAINAGE TO THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. MY READ OF THE WAIVER WAS THAT THEY WERE INCREASING THE FLOW INTO PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. IS THAT A WAY TO CHARACTERIZE THIS? I, I YOU'RE CORRECT. OKAY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT THE DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO REDIRECT THE FLOW. THAT'S A BIG DEAL. UM, I AM NOT, UH, DISMISSING WHAT HE'S DOING THERE, BUT THE WAIVER IS BECAUSE HE'S INCREASING THE FLOW INTO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO NOT CREATE THE ADVERSE IMPACT ON THOSE RESIDENTS SINCE HE'S A PILL. THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING IS IT'S HOLOGRAPHY. I WOULD DISAGREE THAT THE FLOW GOES THERE TODAY. AND SINCE THE FLOW GOES THERE TODAY, THE DEVELOPER COULD CONTINUE TO SEND THE FLOW THERE. AND AT THE SAME RATE, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT WORSE, BUT HE CAN CONTINUE TO SEND THE SAME AMOUNT OF FLUID TO THOSE YARDS. IT GOES THERE TODAY. DON'T MORE, BUT EVEN TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, HE'S OPTING NOT TO DO THAT. AND HE'S STOPPING TO PROTECT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AND DIVERT THE FLOW TO THE RIGHT. UH, IT, IT HELPS ME TO GET THAT UNDERSTANDING. DOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE TO GET AN ENGINEER TO ESTABLISH BASE CONDITIONS? I CAN UNDERSTAND MR. MARQUEZ, THEM NOT GETTING ALL OF THIS AND IN A WEEK, I WOULDN'T, I BARELY UNDERSTAND THIS. AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS A LITTLE MORE THAN, UH, THAN THE NEIGHBORS HAVE FOR A LONG TIME. SO, UM, OUT OF THEY DOCUMENT THE ADVERSE IMPACT, WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE WE'RE DIVERTING ALL THE DEVELOPER DIVERTING ALL THE FLOW AROUND THE PROBLEM. SO THERE IS MORE IMPACT, RIGHT? [02:25:01] THE QUESTION WAS CODE AND IT WAS REALLY ASKING MR. MARCUS, CAUSE I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT THAT IF A CODE WOULD ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO THE RESIDENTIAL PART OF IT, UM, THEY CAN'T, HOW CAN WE REQUIRE CURRENT CODE TO HAVE THAT IMPACT ON THEM? IT JUST MAKING NO SENSE TO ME. UM, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. THAT'S IT FOR ME, FOR ME, MOM, THANK YOU. MISS VALENTI ON PEACEFUL HILL LINE LANE COULD RIDE HER BIKE TO, OR DRIVE AND CROSS SOUTH FIRST STREET ON GREAT BRITAIN, TAKE A RIGHT ONTO PALACE PARKWAY AND BE AT DITMAR REC CENTER AND GO SWIMMING AT THE POOL. THIS IS THE GREAT BRITAIN'S THE SIGNAL OF GREAT BRITAIN IS GOING TO BE AMAZING FOR THIS COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'S JUST PROVIDING THAT CONNECT TO A SAFE CROSSING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TWO BUS STOPS WITH NO SAFE CROSSING. SO IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER BRAY. UM, SO BY THE DEDICATED PARKLAND, I SING A LOT OF, UM, SPACE UP ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF TREES THERE, WHICH I APPRECIATE THAT THEY'RE NOT DEVELOPING THE PORTION THAT HAS THE TREES, UM, IS THAT POSSIBLE FOR PARKLAND, UM, AND ATTACHED TO THAT AS A POSSIBLE TO GET RID OF THAT PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH PART OF THAT, TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE, A LARGER AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE THERE, COMMISSIONER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. YES. THIS IS MAC MAC WITH WAYFINDER. WE CAN'T FOREGO THE PARKING. IT'S A REQUIREMENT IN ORDER TO ADEQUATELY PARK THOSE UNITS, AS IT RELATES TO THAT, UH, AREA AND THE PARKING, THE PARKLAND QUESTION IN GENERAL, I THINK THIS IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO PROBABLY FALL IN THE CATEGORY OF A PRIORITIZATION OF, OF THE TRAIL AND CONNECTIVITY AS WAS RECENTLY REFERENCED AND HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF TIMES ON THIS CALL THAT IS, UH, IN, IN CONSISTENT WITH, WITH, WITH THE PARKLAND ORDINANCE, IT'S LIKELY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SEEKING CONNECTIVITY AT THIS LOCATION BETWEEN, UM, UM, RESIDENCES AND PARKS, AS OPPOSED TO AN OPEN PARKING PARKLAND SPACE BECAUSE OF THE DESIGNATION THAT THIS SITE FALLS UNDER. I, AND, AND THAT'S BEEN SUGGESTED IS THAT THAT CONNECTIVITY WILL BE, WILL BE THE DESIRE AND THE PRIORITY, UM, TO GET RESIDENTS CONNECTIVITY, TO, TO OTHER NEARBY PARKLAND BY PROVIDING A TRAIL ALONG OUR NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE FROM OR DRIVE TO SOUTH FIRST. YEAH. WELL, I GUESS LIKE WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING WITH THAT SPACE. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE NEAR THE ENTRANCE SOUTH BETWEEN THAT AND LIKE THE BUILDING NUMBER SEVEN, THERE'S A, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN KIND OF GREEN SPACE. THERE IS THAT GOING TO BE JUST LEFT AS TREES AND PEOPLE CAN WALK ON IT IF THEY WANT TO, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THAT CAN BE GATED. YEAH. THAT'S A CLUSTER OF TREES DETECT RESECTED IN HERITAGE THAT WE INTEND TO PROTECT AND LEAVE UNDISTURBED. OKAY. BUT IT WILL BE, WILL THAT BE WITHIN LIKE A, IF THERE'S A OFFENSE, WILL THAT BE WITHIN THE FENCE OR WILL THE PUBLIC HAVE ACCESS TO THAT CLUSTER OF TREES AND KIND OF GREEN GREEN AREA? I MEAN, WE, AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T KNOW, WE HAVEN'T STUDIED THAT CLUSTER OF TREES IN RELATION TO, YOU KNOW, HOW IT, HOW IT, UH, CORRESPONDS WITH SOUTH FIRST OR THE APARTMENT COMMUNITY. OTHER THAN TO SAY, THIS IS AN EVIDENT GROVE OF TREES THAT WE INTEND TO PROTECT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FIGURED OUT IN THE SITE PLAN WITH PART, NO DOUBT. I REALLY, REALLY DID APPRECIATE IT. I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU CAN GET THE MAP OF IT THAT, LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF THE AREA THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED IS THE AREA THAT'S CURRENTLY CLEAR AND DOESN'T HAVE ANY TREES IN THE MOST OF THE AREAS WITH LOTS OF TREES. WHAT TAKES YOUR BEING PRESERVED? SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OKAY. CALL OR EMOTION THAT, DO I HEAR MR. SMITH MUTED? UM, YEAH. AND BASED OFF THAT RECOMMENDATION DESIGNED BASED ON [02:30:01] TIME, UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE BASED ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, RAISE YOUR HANDS. OKAY. OKAY. ALL THOSE OPPOSED AND ANY ABSTENTIONS. OKAY. SEVEN TO THREE THAT PASSES 71. OKAY. THANKS EVERYONE FOR A GOOD DISCUSSION. I'M GONNA MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM C [C1. Briefing regarding resubdivions. Staff: Steve Hopkins, 512-974-3175, steve.hopkins@austintexas.gov. Development Services Department. (Sponsors: Commissioner King and Vice-Chair Kiolbassa)] ONE, WHICH IS, UH, MR. HOPKINS IS GOING TO GIVE US A BRIEFING ON RE SUBDIVISIONS CHAIR. MAY I JUST CLARIFY RIGHT QUICK BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT ITEM THAT, THAT LAST VOTE, I BELIEVE WAS SIX, TWO AND ONE 600 NUMBER WAS, IS THAT CORRECT? SIX, FOUR, TWO AGAINST, AND ONE ACTUALLY THREE AGAINST AND ONE AND I ABSTAINED. OKAY. AND THOSE THAT VOTED AGAINST WHERE COMMISSIONER WOODY COMMISSIONER DANCLER AND COMMISSIONER KOBASA. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. HOPKINS, ARE YOU, ARE YOU THERE? OH, OKAY. UM, YEAH, I'VE BEEN HAVING SOME TROUBLE WITH MY, MY EARPHONES. UH, I THINK THEY'RE WORKING NOW. OKAY. YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU. GREAT. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? OKAY. EXCELLENT. ALL RIGHT. SO, ALL RIGHT. I'M STEVE HOPKINS. I, UH, WITH, WITH, UH, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, I SUPERVISE THE SUBDIVISION REVIEW TEAM. UH, SO AT YOUR LAST HEARING, UH, YOU REQUESTED SOME INFORMATION ON HOUSE BILL 31 67 AND HOW IT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED OVER THE, OVER THE LAST ABOUT YEAR AND A HALF. AND YOU ALSO HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR OPTIONS FOR ACTION ON A SUBDIVISION APPLICATION. SO I'M GOING TO GO OVER YOUR OPTIONS FIRST, AND THEN I'LL PRETTY MUCH JUST LET THE COMMISSION AND ASK QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. UM, I PROVIDED A MEMO THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE, UH, THAT CAN GUIDE YOUR QUESTIONS IF YOU WISH, OR, UM, YOU CAN GO COMPLETELY OFF SCRIPT, HOWEVER YOU WISH. UH, SO I WILL KEEP MY PRESENTATION VERY BRIEF THOUGH. SO FOR APPLICATIONS, EXCUSE ME, FOR SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED SINCE SEPTEMBER 1ST OF 2019, THERE'S BEEN A NEW PROCESS. AND PART OF THAT PROCESS MEANS THAT WHEN YOU SEE A SUBDIVISION APPLICATION BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE THREE OPTIONS. FIRST, YOU CAN DISAPPROVE FOR REASONS. SECOND, YOU CAN APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. THIRD, YOU CAN APPROVE AS SUBMITTED. NOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. FIRST OF ALL, WHEN YOU WERE DISAPPROVED, FOR REASONS, THAT MEANS THAT THE APPLICATION REQUIRES CHANGES THAT ARE, THAT WILL NEED FURTHER TECHNICAL REVIEW BY STAFF. IT ALSO MEANS THAT THE NEXT UPDATE THAT THEY SUBMIT WILL BE REQUIRED TO TURN TO YOU AT A HEARING. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE APPLICATION CAN GO TO EITHER LAND USE COMMISSION. YOU CAN GO TO THE ZAP OR THE PC. WE DON'T HAVE THAT DISTINCTION ANYMORE. THE SECOND OPTION IS TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. NOW THIS IS ONE THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS, UM, IT'S RELATIVELY NEW. UM, IT MEANS THAT THE PLAT COMPLIES WITH EVERYTHING AFTER ALL THESE, AFTER ALL THE CONDITIONS ARE MET, UH, NOW THE CONDITIONS WILL BE VERY LIMITED TO ROUTINE ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, EXCUSE ME, ROUTINE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS THAT DO NOT REQUIRE ANY DISCRETION ON PART OF STAFF. THE MOST COMMON THINGS WE'LL BE RECORDING AN EASEMENT OR POSTING FISCAL 30. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT IF YOU APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, THE NEXT UPDATE DOES NOT RETURN NEED TO RETURN TO THE COMMISSION AT A HEARING. IT CAN BE, BUT IT'S INTENDED NOT TO RETURN. AND THE THIRD OPTION, THIS IS VERY UNUSUAL IS APPROVED AS SUBMITTED. THIS MEANS THE APPLICATION IS PERFECT. STEP HAS NO CONDITIONS. THE APPLICATION COMPLIES 100% WITH ALL [02:35:02] CODE AND CRITERIA. SO THE INTENT OF THE, OF THE PROCESS IS THAT WITH THE INITIAL REVIEW, THERE WILL MOST LIKELY BE DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS THAT WILL OCCUR ON THE F IT'S SO COMMON, IT'S ALMOST STANDARD. UM, YOU SEE THE INITIAL REVIEW, IT'S GOING TO BE DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS AFTER THAT, THE OPTION IS THAT IT COULD BE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS ON THE NEXT UPDATE, IF THEY'VE ADDRESSED ALL THEIR SIGNIFICANT ISSUES. UM, SO WE'D LIKE EVERYTHING TO GET DISAPPROVED FOR REASONS, AND THEN MOVE INTO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. SO THERE WAS, UH, SOME QUESTIONS FROM A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS ASKING HOW MANY APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN BEEN DISAPPROVED AND HOW MANY HAD BEEN APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS? WELL, ESSENTIALLY ALL APPLICATIONS GET DISAPPROVED FOR REASONS ON THE INITIAL REVIEW. AND WE HOPE THAT ALL OF THE APPLICATION WILL BE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS ONCE THEY HAD SUBMITTED THE UPDATES AND ADDRESSED ALL THEIR REASONS FOR THIS , I CANNOT QUICKLY GO OVER THE GENERAL DEADLINES. UH, THE INITIAL REVIEW MUST OCCUR WITHIN 30 CALENDAR DAYS. SO THE CITY MUST ACT ON AN APPLICATION WITHIN 30 CALENDAR DAYS OF WHEN THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED FOR ALL UPDATE TO MIDDLES, THE CITY MUST ACT WITHIN 15 CALENDAR DAYS. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THAT. UM, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S A, UH, A HOLIDAY IN THERE. NOPE. STILL COUNTS. WE MUST ACT WITHIN 15 DAYS OR FOR UPDATES AND 30 DAYS FOR INITIAL REVIEW. UM, I THINK I'LL JUST STOP THERE. UM, IF ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THAT, UM, IS THERE ANYTHING OVER THAT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO GO OVER TO CLARIFY MR. DAN, CLAIRE, AND THEN MR. HOPKINS, THANK YOU FOR, UM, THIS, UH, PRESENTATION. UH, SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN THE HARDEST THING FOR ME TO LEARN. I DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE OF MY, UM, MR. WITH AN ENGINEER. UM, I'M SIMPLY A LAY PERSON AND IT'S NOT A TOPIC THAT IS READILY HANDLED, UH, BY A LAY PERSON. DO YOU FEEL WE HAVE ADEQUATE STAFF TO THOROUGHLY REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS WITHIN THE PRESCRIBED TIMEFRAME? UM, FOR THE CODE, BECAUSE YOU'RE STATING WE INITIALLY DISAPPROVE EVERYTHING AND THEN I, UM, YOU HAVE TO RESPOND TO AN UPDATE WITHIN 14 DAYS ARE SCHEDULED FOR A HEARING. AND I'VE SEEN A FEW THINGS THAT HAVE SLIPPED THROUGH THAT I THOUGHT SHOULD HAVE HAD CONDITIONS PUT ON THEM. UM, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE AN EASEMENT NOT RE YOU KNOW, UH, FULLY RECORDED, UH, ET CETERA. UM, I, YOU KNOW, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT AS BEING SOMEWHAT A MINOR ISSUE, BUT IT'S NOT A MINOR ISSUE IF YOU'RE HAVING TO PAY FOR THAT EASEMENT WHEN YOU JUST PROPERTY. UH, SO DO YOU THINK WE HAVE ADEQUATE STAFF FOR, DO YOU THINK WE NEED MORE IN THE BUDGET, UH, SINCE WE MAY BE WEIGHING IN ON THE BUDGET AND, AND I KNOW YOUR PROCESS WILL, UM, UH, APPRECIATE A CANDID RESPONSE. WELL, I AM CHARGED WITH IMPLEMENTING WHAT HAS GIVEN ME AND I WILL WE'LL DO THAT WITH EVERYTHING I'M GIVEN. UM, SO I WILL SAY YES, WE HAVE ADEQUATE STAFF. UM, NOW THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE ALSO SET UP THE PROCESS SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED A PROJECT ASSESSMENT, WHICH IS SORT OF A PRE SUBMITTAL PROCESS, SO THAT IF AN APPLICANT HAS QUESTIONS, UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE A DISCRETIONARY REVIEW, SUCH AS A VARIANCE, UM, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT WITH A CLIENT AND TO EXCUSE ME WITH THE APPLICANT AND IF WE CAN'T DESIGN IT SO THAT THE VARIANCE IS NOT REQUIRED, THEN WE CAN REVIEW IT AND GIVE THEM OUR, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION. [02:40:01] SO YES, WE DO. WE WILL MAKE THINGS WORK NO MATTER WHAT, UM, RESOURCES WE HAVE, WE WILL BE MEETING THESE DEADLINES, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER TOOLS IN OUR KIT TO HELP US MEET THOSE DEADLINES AS WELL. DID THAT, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SPOKEN LIKE A, UH, A, A LONG TIME I LONG TIME, UH, AS A STAFF MEMBER. THANK YOU. THANKS HERE, KIELBASA. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR APPEARING HERE ON THE JUST SCINTILLATING TOPIC OF SUBDIVISIONS. BUT AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE A CASE FROM APRIL 20TH THAT SORT OF SPARKED THIS IMPETUS OR THIS INTEREST IN, UH, SUBDIVISIONS. AND WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR IS FIRST OFF, I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE MAP, INCLUDING THE MASTER COMMENT REPORT IN WITH THE SUBDIVISIONS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEN THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE INTERESTING BECAUSE THEN NOW WE HAVE TO PICK THROUGH THE MASTER COMMENT REPORT, LOOKING FOR THE CONDITIONS. LIKE I THOUGHT WE, THAT HAPPENED IN ON THE MARSHALL RANCH ONE. SO OUR NON CLEARED COMMENTS, THE SAME AS CONDITIONS. AND SO, BUT MY BIGGER PICTURE THING IS, UM, IS THERE, I KNOW YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE 30 DAY CLOCK AND I'VE, UM, IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU CAN TELL US, LIKE THE COMMENTS USING THE MASTER COMMENT REPORT THAT THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN CLEARED AND ARE THOSE THE SAME AS THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU, THAT YOU'RE? ARE THEY THE SAME AS CONDITIONS? UM, YEAH, I'LL, I'LL ANSWER YOUR, THE CONDITIONS, UM, QUESTIONS FIRST THAT YOU YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING THE CONDITIONS, UH, WHAT, AND YOU REALLY HAVE TO PICK THROUGH AND LIKE, LOOK AND SEE, UM, IF THINGS HAVE BEEN CLEARED. AND SO IS THERE, UH, IS THERE JUST AN EASIER WAY FOR US TO TRACK IT IS, IS MY BOTTOM LINE BECAUSE WE'RE LAYPERSONS AND NOT STAFF. AND I KNOW YOUR MONS MASTER COMMENT REPORTS ARE DIRECTED AT STAFF. YEAH. WHAT IF, IF YOU HAVE A RECORD, IF WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, THEN THE COVER SHEET YOU RECEIVE ON YOUR BACKUP WILL STATE EXPLICITLY WHAT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE. UH, THERE SHOULD BE VERY, VERY FEW CONDITIONS. UH, I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY MORE THAN MAYBE TWO CONDITIONS. UM, AND THE EXAMPLES I'VE JUST GIVEN YOU THE, THE, THE EASEMENT AND RECORDING AN EASEMENT AND POSTING CISCO, UM, THAT'S THE KIND OF CONDITION I'M I'M TALKING ABOUT, AND THEY SHOULD BE EXPLICITLY WRITTEN IN THAT COVER SHEET. UM, IF WE ARE RECOMMENDING DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS, THEN ALL OF THE REASONS IN OUR COMMENT REPORT, ALL THE COMMENTS IN OUR COMMENT REPORT ARE THOSE REASONS. THAT MEANS THAT THE, THEY HAVE NOT CLEARED THOSE COMMENTS ON THE INITIAL REVIEW. THESE ARE THE THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO. NOW. THESE ARE THE, THE REASON FOR DISAPPROVAL ON THE UPDATE, UNLESS THEY HAVE CLEARED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE. THEN IT'S THOSE REASONS THAT STAND. IS THAT MAKING SENSE SO FAR? OH, YES, IT IS. UM, IT DOES. IT'S JUST THAT FOR THAT ONE PROJECT, IT DIDN'T SEEM AS IF THE COMMENTS HAD BEEN CLEARED. AND SO IT WOULD JUST BE GOOD TO KNOW THAT THEY HAD BEEN CLEARED. UM, YOU'RE RIGHT. UH, AND WE, WHAT I WANTED DO GOING FORWARD IS MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION VERY CLEAR AND THE REASONS FOR THOSE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS VERY CLEAR SO THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL FROM JUST LOOKING AT THAT COVER SHEET EXACTLY WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS AND WHY WE HAVE IT LIKE THAT. IF IT'S APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL THEM RIGHT AWAY WHAT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE AND NOT HAVE TO SEARCH THROUGH THROUGH THE COMMENT REPORT. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I THINK AT THIS POINT, YOU SHOULD SAY, AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE NEED TWO MORE FULL-TIME STAFF PEOPLE. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT AND, UM, AND YOU SHOULD, OR WE CAN RECOMMEND IT. AND, UM, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND I KNOW [02:45:01] YOU HAVE EVEN MORE WORK TO DO THAN YOU DID, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THIS, UH, THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE PASSED THIS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, AND I SUPER APPRECIATE THE MASTER COMMENT REPORT. SO I HAVE TO SAY THAT IT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE LIFE A LITTLE EASY FOR EASIER FOR ALL OF US. THANKS. MY PLEASURE. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER SMITH. NEXT. I BELIEVE HE HAD HIS HAND UP BEFORE ME. DID HE? YES. SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE IT. OH, I DIDN'T SEE IT. IT'S KIND OF HIDING. OKAY. UM, KIND OF SHIFTING OUT OF COMMISSIONER ROLLOVER INTO AN APPLICANT ROLE. CAUSE I PUT A PARENTING SUBDIVISION PLATS ALL THE TIME. WHAT WE'RE DOING ON OUR SIDE IS VERY DIFFERENT AS WELL. IT USED TO BE, WE WOULD SUBMIT A FINAL PLATFORM APPROVAL AND GO THROUGH SIX MONTHS OF REVIEW PROCESS. WE WOULD GET THE SCR APPROVED. WE WOULD GET ANY VARIANCES APPROVED. WE GET THAT FIRE MARSHALL TO SIGN OFF. WE WOULD GET ALL THESE OTHER ENTITIES TO SIGN OFF WHILE THE CITY STAFF REVIEWING AND GIVING US COMMENTS. AND WE GET, WE GET, THESE ARE THE MASTER CONTENT REPORTS THAT YOU SEE, WE'D GET THOSE OVER AND OVER THE INSIGHT, HEY, YOU NEED TO CLEAR IT ALL THESE TIMES. NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GOING AND GETTING THE STR APPROVED. FIRST, WE'RE GETTING THE FIRE MARSHALL SIGN UP FIRST FROM GETTING THE CATARACT SIGN AND MAYBE WE'RE GETTING ALL THESE OTHER THINGS DONE BEFORE WE EVER SUBMIT THE PLAN. SO WHEN WE SUBMIT THE PLAN, WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH EFFECTIVELY ALL OF THE REVIEW PROCESS, AND THERE COULD BE VERY MINIMAL COMMENTS FROM STAFF AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT REVIEW PROCESS. SO A LOT OF THE STUFF HAS BEEN DONE UPFRONT. SO IT'S STILL EFFECTIVELY A SIX MONTH PROCESS. WE'RE JUST FIVE MONTHS OUTSIDE OF THE REVIEW. AND THEN 30 DAYS IN THE REVIEW PROCESS. THE ONE THING WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL OF AS COMMISSIONERS IS IF WE DENY SOMETHING WITH REASONS, THOSE ARE GOING TO BECOME THE ONLY REASONS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. UM, THE STAFF CAN'T ADD ON FOR REASONS. AND SO MY CONCERN HAS ALWAYS BEEN, SOMEONE COMES IN AND SAYS, WELL, HEY STAFF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS FLOOD CONDITIONS, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO DYE IT BECAUSE I WANT THIS TO BE A CONDITION THAT COULD BECOME THE ONLY CONDITION IN A LOT OF THE STUFF ISTAT WANTS. DOUG CAN DROP OFF THE TABLE, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED. AND SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE DEVIATE WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS BECAUSE WE'RE RELYING ON THEIR REPORT. THE STAFF SAYS DISAPPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. WE NEED TO DISAPPROVE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS DEVICE. THEY APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS LEAD TO APPROVE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS. UM, AND IF WE START GETTING AWAY FROM THAT AND WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS, WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ON HOW WE DO THAT BECAUSE WE ONLY GET ONE SHOT AND STAFF ONLY GETS ONE SHOT STAFF CAN'T COME IN LATER AND ADD MORE ITEMS IN ONCE THEY MAKE THEIR INITIAL COMMENTS, THEY MAKE 15 COMMENTS AND WE'VE ADDRESSED 14 OR ONE COMMENT LEFT THAT CAN'T COME BACK AND SAY, OH, WAIT A MINUTE. WE FORGOT ABOUT DESIRE THAT CAN'T BE DONE ANYMORE. UM, AND SO WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE CHANGED FROM WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDATION, JUST MY CONCERN AT THE THAT'S SUPER INSIGHTFUL. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. LET ME START. YEAH, THANK YOU. UM, AND, AND COMMISSIONER SMITH, IT'S VERY, IT'S SO HELPFUL TO HAVE YOU YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THESE, UH, ON THE PROCESS AND WHAT GOES ON THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE PROCESS THAT I NEVER EVER GET TO SEE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. UM, AND, UH, SO I WONDER IF WE COULD, UH, UH, GET A REPORT THOUGH FROM STAFF, LIKE ON A, MAYBE A QUARTERLY, I DON'T WANT TO PUT MORE STUFF ON STAFF'S PLATE BECAUSE I AGREE WITH SENTIMENTS EXPRESSED EARLIER. I THINK, I THINK STAFF GETS MORE MANDATES FROM THE LEGISLATURE, FROM THE COUNCIL, FROM WE, THE PEOPLE. SO THEY, THEY GET SO MANY MANDATES TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO DO THINGS. SO, UM, ANYWAY, I, I DO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH TIME AND RESOURCES, AND IF WE'RE GOING TO COMPRESS THE TIMELINE THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE REALLY ALL WANT, WE WANT. AND SO THEN THE SUBDIVISIONS DO COME TO US THAT THEY WILL HAVE NO CONDITIONS. THEY'VE ALL BEEN MET, HOPEFULLY. UH, AND, AND THAT THEY'RE WELL-VETTED. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THEM, WE DON'T FIND ANYTHING AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, AND, AND SO I DO APPRECIATE OUR PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THE STAFF CONDITIONS AND ADD OUR ON OURS TO IT AS WELL. I DON'T LOOK AT IT AS IS, YOU KNOW, EITHER OUR CONDITIONS OR STAFF IT'S IT'S, IT COULD BE BOTH. AND SO, AND I DO CERTAINLY RESPECT, UH, COMMISSIONER SMITH'S POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING CAREFUL WITH THESE CONDITIONS. I, I DO APPRECIATE THAT. SO, UH, BUT I WONDER IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET, UM, A, UH, LIKE A REPORT ON THE SUBDIVISIONS [02:50:01] AND ON A QUARTERLY BASIS FROM STAFF THAT WOULD JUST SAY X NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, HERE ARE THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. HERE ARE THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT WENT TO THE ZAP AND HERE'S, HERE'S THE OUTCOME OF THOSE CASES. BASICALLY X NUMBER WERE DENIED FOR CONDITIONS, X NUMBER, WHATEVER, JUST THIS KIND OF A SUMMER REPORT DATA, IF YOU WILL, ON, ON, ON, ON THE, THE NUMBER OF SUBDIVISIONS AND HOW MANY WERE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS, HOW MANY WERE DENIED FOR REASONS, THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST SO WE CAN GET A, KIND OF THE LAY OF THE LAND, BIG PICTURE, LOOK AT THIS, AND JUST A SUGGESTION. AND IT COULD BE IT'S, MAYBE STAFF'S ALREADY DOING THIS, AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THE REPORT EXISTS. IT'S JUST SOME DATA FOR THE COMMISSIONS TO LOOK AND GET THE LAY OF THE LAND ON THESE SUBDIVISIONS. IS THAT SOMETHING STAFF DOES, DOES STAFF PRODUCE A REPORT LIKE A MANUAL OR A QUARTERLY REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF SUBDIVISION CASES AND, AND HOW THEY WERE HANDLED, HOW THEY WERE DISPOSED OF EITHER, UH, YOU KNOW, APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS. I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT MYSELF AGAIN, BUT DO YOU HAVE SUCH A REPORT THAT YOU PRODUCE? WELL, UM, YOU, I DON'T THINK WE DO THAT SPECIFICALLY. UM, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A REPORT JUST FOR THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT SINCE SEPTEMBER 1ST OF 2019, WE'VE ACCEPTED APPROXIMATELY 260 SUBDIVISION APPLICATIONS. UM, WHEN I SAY THAT, I MEAN THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH COMPLETENESS CHECK AND WE HAVE STARTED REVIEW. UM, AND WELL, YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT ALL THAT. I WAS ABLE TO, UM, FIGURE OUT THIS AFTERNOON. SO ABOUT 260 OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO. WELL, JUST IF, IF YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT THAT IN, IN, IN, IN, IF IT'S NOT TOO MUCH OF AN ONEROUS THING TO DO, MAYBE PROVIDE SOME, UH, REPORT TO THE COMMISSIONS, MAYBE BY, YOU KNOW, TWICE A YEAR ON THE SUBDIVISIONS, EVEN ANNUALLY WOULD BE GOOD. AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE VERY HELPFUL AND, UH, IT IS THIS, UH, WHO'S THE, WHOM ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAKING WITH RIGHT NOW? THIS IS STEVE HOPKINS. OH, STEVE. THANK YOU, STEVE. THANK YOU. THAT, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU WERE TALKING TO STEVE, BUT THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING MY QUESTIONS IN MY EMAILS. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR DETAILED RESPONSE AND YOUR QUICK RESPONSE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, AND I WAS, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO LEARN THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T THINK ANY OF US REALLY WANT IS TO, FOR AN APPLIQUE, A SUBDIVISION APPLICATION TO BE DENIED AUTOMATICALLY, OR I'M SORRY, APPROVED AUTOMATICALLY. UH, SO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE THERE'S VALUE IN GOING THROUGH THIS PUBLIC PROCESS HERE. SO, UH, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO LEARN THAT ONE CASE HAS GONE HAS BEEN APPROVED AUTOMATICALLY. COULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE INSIGHT INTO THAT CASE? UM, YEAH, THAT WAS A CASE IN THE TRAVIS COUNTY ETJ AND THE CITY AND THE COUNTY FAILED TO ACT WITHIN 30 DAYS. AND WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE REASONS FOR THAT, HOW THAT CAME ABOUT AND WE'VE TAKEN ACTIONS TO CORRECT THAT. AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT WASN'T A LARGE CLASS. I'M TRYING TO THINK OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. IT WAS JUST FIVE OR SIX SLOTS. SO, UM, THAT SORT OF MITIGATE THE IMPACT SOMEWHAT. YEAH. UH, SO YEAH, I, I FEEL THAT, UM, ONE OUT OF 260 IS, IS I DON'T LIKE TO SEE ANY, BUT THAT IS NOT, THAT'S BETTER THERE THAN I THINK WE HAD HOPED GOING INTO THIS. THANK YOU, MR. ATKINSON. ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO ASK A FOLLOW ONTO THAT AND ASK, IS THERE A WAY FOR, UH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, GOSH, I, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO GET, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHEN I WORKED WITH THE STATE, WE USED TO GET A REPORT ON THESE ARE THESE ARE THINGS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND, UH, THESE ARE ABOUT TO EXPIRE OR BE AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW, UH, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE SOME WAY A TICKLER SYSTEM TO NOTIFY? YOU HAVE TO LET YOU KNOW, HEY, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THAT WHEN THOSE THINGS ARE AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED, IF THE PUBLIC PROCESSES DOESN'T OCCUR ON THAT AND THESE SUBDIVISIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY. AND SO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN. SO IS THERE SOME WAY THAT WE CAN KIND OF SEE, LOOK AHEAD AND SEE, OH, WE GOT A REALLY, WHAT, WHAT ELSE CAN, WHAT, I MEAN, WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM THAT CASE THAT, THAT, THAT IMPROVED THE PROCESS? WELL, THERE WAS INTERNAL CONTROLS THAT WERE NOT FOLLOWED, UH, AND WE REEMPHASIZE THOSE. UH, WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT OUR AMANDA SYSTEM, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THE PERMITTING SYSTEM WE USED AND WE WERE ABLE TO USE THAT A LITTLE MORE [02:55:01] EFFICIENTLY, UH, TO MAKE A COUPLE OF SMALL CHANGES TO SOME, AN INTERNAL PROCESS. SO WE'VE GOT SEVERAL, SEVERAL CHECKS, SO IN, IN PLACE. SO THIS WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, STEVE. I APPRECIATE IT. AND I GUESS ONE LAST SUGGESTION IS, YOU KNOW, IN LIEU OF AN ANNUAL REPORT OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IS, IS THERE A WAY FOR STAFF TO NOTIFY THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR OF THE LAND USE COMMISSIONS WHEN WHENEVER AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN A SUBDIVISION APPLICATION HAS BEEN AUTOMATICALLY APPROVED, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF THOSE COMMISSIONS KNOW ABOUT THAT WHEN IT OCCURS. UM, YEAH, I'LL, I'LL TAKE ALL THAT, ALL THAT YOU'VE RECOMMENDED TONIGHT AND I'LL BRING THAT UP. AND, UM, YEAH, I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SAY ANY MORE THAN, YES, I WILL BRING THAT UP TO, UH, MY SUPERVISORS AND SEE, UM, HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT THE BEST WAY TO BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT. AND I GUESS I'LL CLOSE THE BUDGETS. I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF. COOL. OH, I JUST, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT ADDING CONDITIONS AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD THAT CONDITIONS. AREN'T SOMETHING THAT WE ADD CONDITIONS ARE SIMPLY SOMETHING THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CODE, RIGHT. EVERYTHING, EVERY COMMENT, YEAH. IN THAT, IN THOSE REPORTS, YOU'LL SEE, HAS A CODE REFERENCE NEXT TO IT. UM, SO IF, UH, YEAH, IT'S, I DON'T THINK THIS IS WHERE YOU WERE GOING WITH THIS, BUT I STRONGLY RECOMMEND NOT TRYING TO ADD OR MODIFY OR DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT. RIGHT. AND I, I WASN'T GOING THERE AT ALL WITH IT, BUT SOMETIMES WE SEE SOMETHING THAT GOT MISSED AND WE'RE JUST POINTING IT OUT AND THEN STAFF SAYS, OH YEAH, THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THERE. THAT'S ALL I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT. AND I HEAR YOU LOUDLY THERE, SO NO WORRIES. THANK YOU, STEVE. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR, UH, YOUR HELP WITH THIS. YES. THANK YOU. STEPHEN. I DID ASK, I HAD ONE THOUGHT JUST, UM, WHILE LISTENING TO COMMISSIONER KING, YOU KNOW, UM, IF YOU, I KNOW IT PROBABLY IS A LITTLE CUMBERSOME, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR TYPE NUMBERS THAT TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF SUBDIVISION CASES THAT YOU'RE REVIEWING AND WHERE THEY ARE IN DIFFERENT PHASES. AND I WONDERED IF IT WOULD BE USEFUL, UM, WHEN LOOKING AT STAFF TIME TO KIND OF, UH, LOOK AT IT, LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS OVER TIME VERSUS THE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT YOU HAVE AND THEIR ABILITY TO, UM, AND YOU KNOW, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO DO THE REVIEW, ET CETERA. I UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY CASE IS DIFFERENT. AND OF COURSE THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME THAT ARE MUCH MORE COMPLEX, ET CETERA, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE A NEW DEPARTMENT, DOES, HAS KIND OF, KIND OF KEEP AWAY YOUR DEPARTMENT ISN'T YOU, YOU'RE STILL DSD ANYWAY. YEAH, I THINK I UNDERSTAND. YEAH. I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE KIND OF INFORMATION YOU'D LIKE, AND, UM, YEAH, I WILL BE BRINGING THAT UP TO SEE HOW WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT. YEAH. THIS IS KIND OF A, I MEAN, EVERYBODY LOVES A DASHBOARD. I THINK IT'S JUST A GOOD WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC TO SEE HOW THIS IS BEING IMPLEMENTED. UH, COMMISSIONER DINKLER I, I THINK I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. SO I'D, I'D KINDA LOVE THE DATA ON WHAT IS THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMON THINGS THAT ARE GETTING DENIED, YOU KNOW, OR, UM, MOST APPLICANTS DON'T WANT TO WASTE THEIR TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY NOT PUTTING IN THE CORNER, MARKING ON THE SURVEY? ARE THEY NOT, UM, DOING THE, YOU KNOW, THE MAJOR THINGS? SO IF THERE'S ANY ANALYSIS ON WHAT'S MOST COMMONLY A PROBLEM, SO YOU CAN HELP COMMUNICATE THAT AND WE CAN HELP YOU COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE APPLICANTS. SO YOU'RE NOT PRESSED DOING THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AM I MAKING SENSE? UH, YEAH. YEAH, BUT THAT'S ALSO, UM, INCLUDED IN OUR COMMENT REPORTS. RIGHT? I KNOW THAT'S A LOT OF CAPTURING IT IN ONE DOCUMENT, YOU KNOW, ARE ALL 290 APPLICATIONS, IF I'M REMEMBERING THE FIGURE RIGHT. BEING DENIED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PROPER SURVEY OR, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SORT OF HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT BEING ADDRESSED BY, UH, UH, THE APPLICANTS AND MAYBE WE CAN HELP YOU REINFORCE, HEY GUYS, COME ON. UM, THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS. YOU GUYS REALLY HAVE DONE A LOT WITH, UH, SOMETHING THAT JUST, UH, GOT DUMPED IN YOUR LAP. SO [03:00:01] I APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE JOB, SO, YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. HOPKINS? WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING TO CHAT WITH US. SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO C2, WHICH IS, UM, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING REVISIONS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO STAFF UPDATES, PRESENT PRESENTATIONS AND SCHEDULING. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM THERE. OKAY. UH, FUTURE D FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY SUGGESTED FEATURE AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY. AND THEN LOOKS LIKE WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH IAN WE'RE ON ONTO F COMMITTEE REPORTS AND WORKING GROUPS. [F. COMMITTEE REPORTS & WORKING GROUPS] THE CODES AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE DID NOT MEET SINCE LAST TIME. IT'S THAT MEETING PROPOSED FOR THIS MONTH HAS BEEN CANCELED, CANCELED. SO WE'LL MEET NEXT TIME. A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DURING COMMITTEE. DO YOU GUYS HAVE GREAT. OKAY. SMALL AREA PLANNING, DRINK COMMITTEE. UH, WE, WE, THERE WERE, I THINK WE HAVE A MEETING TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR JUNE THE SECOND. OKAY. AND THEN THE INDIAN CREEK AND LOCALIZED FLOODING WORKING GROUP. HAVE YOU GUYS MET? OKAY. WELL, THAT'S ALL THERE IS. THAT'S THE END OF THE AGENDA CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING AT NINE OH ONE. THANKS EVERYBODY. WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR THE GOOD COMMENTS. SO SWEET AND FINE SISTER SING AMAZING GRACE. SHE RAN, WALKING AROUND. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.