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I NEED TO JUMP IN,

[Call to Order]

CONNECT THE TEAMS AND WE'RE HAVING SOME ISSUES HERE.

I'M HERE.

CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I CAN.

RIGHT HERE.

WHAT'S YOUR DINKLER.

OH, I CAN HEAR YOU.

UM, I NEED TO TRY TO CONNECT THE TEAM.

SHIT.

WE'RE HAVING SOME ISSUES.

OH, I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

SO GIVE ME A SECOND.

NOBODY WAS ANSWERING YOU.

I COULD HEAR, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S PRETTY BAD.

SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU RUSH? WELCOME TO THE AUDIO CONFERENCING CENTER, PLEASE ENTER A CONFERENCE ID FOLLOWED BY POUND.

TO CONTINUE IN ENGLISH, PRESS ONE, PLEASE.

WELCOME TO THE AUDIO CONFERENCING CENTER.

PLEASE ENTER A CONFERENCE ID FOLLOWED BY POUND.

SORRY, I CAN'T FIND A MEETING WITH THAT NUMBER.

TRY ENTERING YOUR CONFERENCE ID AGAIN AND THEN PRESS POUND.

SORRY, I CAN'T FIND A MEETING WITH THAT NUMBER.

TRY ENTERING YOUR CONFERENCE ID AGAIN AND THEN PRESS POUND.

SORRY.

OKAY, SO, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE, UH, NOT SURE WHY IT'S NOT LETTING US CONNECT, UH, BUT GIVE US ANOTHER TWO MINUTES HERE AND I THINK WE'LL BE GOOD.

WELCOME TO THE AUDIO CONFERENCING CENTER.

PLEASE ENTER A CONFERENCE ID FOLLOWED BY POUND.

SORRY, I CAN'T FIND A MEETING WITH THAT NUMBER.

TRY ENTERING YOUR CONFERENCE ID AGAIN AND THEN PRESS POUND.

WELCOME TO THE AUDIO CONFERENCING CENTER.

PLEASE ENTER A CONFERENCE ID FOLLOWED BY POUND.

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OKAY.

IF YOU'RE THE MEETING ORGANIZER, PRESS STAR NOW YOU ARE NOW JOINING THE MEETING.

PLEASE WAIT FOR THE LEADER TO ADMIT YOU TO THE MEETING.

YOU'VE BEEN MUTED TO UNMUTE YOURSELF, PRESS STAR SIX.

YOU ARE NO LONGER MUTED.

OKAY.

WE HAVE SOLVED THE PROBLEM.

COULD WE GET THE CHAIR TO DO OKAY.

YOU MIGHT CHECK WITH, UM, WENDY.

SURE.

UH, HI WENDY, ARE YOU THERE? GOOD EVENING CHAIR.

I'M HERE.

THIS IS WENDY ROAD.

ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO KEEP TAKING THE ROLE.

UM, WE WERE AT COMMISSIONER KING HERE, COMMISSIONER.

UH VICE-CHAIR KOBASA HERE.

MR. RAY.

YEAH.

MR. SMITH'S HERE MR. THOMPSON HERE AND THEN COMMISSIONER WOODY.

GREAT.

UM, SO FOR ANY PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE ON THE LINE, PLEASE REMEMBER TO SELECT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.

UM, IF YOUR ITEM IS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REMAIN ON THE LINE.

YOU CAN RECEIVE AN EMAIL WE'RE ABOUT 15 MINUTES AWAY FROM TAKING UP THE ITEM.

SO FIRST WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW

[Consent Agenda]

THE AGENDA AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, A IS

[A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY, UM, CHANGES THEY'D LIKE TO SEE TO THE MINUTES FROM LAST TIME? OKAY.

I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO B UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO WE HAVE B ONE IS C 14, 2020 ZERO ONE 46 AT 11 SEVEN OH FIVE RESEARCH BOULEVARD.

ZONING APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED POSTPONEMENT TO JUNE 15TH, UH, B TO A C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO FIVE SIX 1609 MATTHEWS LANE REZONING.

AND WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT ITEM B3, UH, C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO SIX ZERO ALBERT ROAD, RED ZONE.

THAT'S CAN ON CONSENT BEFORE C 14 2019 ZERO ZERO FIVE NINE S H 71 AND FM NINE 73 IS CONSENT B FIVE C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO FIVE FOUR 11 700 NORTH SOUTHBOUND.

THAT'S A UP FOR NEIGHBORHOOD POSTPONEMENT TIL JUNE 15TH.

B6 IS C 14 2021 ZERO ZERO THREE TO SHELTON ROAD.

AND THAT'S, UH, STAFF IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JUNE 15TH.

2020 ZERO ONE 43 12 ONE 21 NORTH .

UH, NEIGHBORHOOD IS REQUESTING POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JULY 6TH, B EIGHT IS C H J 2019 ZERO ONE THREE EIGHT.

THE SCHWARZMAN TRACK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

BENIGN IS S P 2019 ZERO ONE FOUR ONE C HOWARD PLAZA.

APPLICANT IS REQUESTING POSTPONEMENT TILL JULY SIX AND B 10 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, AUSTRIA, AUSTIN WATER, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS LOCATED IN THE DRINKING WATER PROTECTION ZONE IS ALSO UP FOR CONSENT.

SO DO WE HAVE, UM, TWO WOMEN, SORRY.

I'D LIKE TO PULL BEATEN FOR DISCUSSION.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, LET'S DO THAT.

SO THEN I'M THINK THE CONSENT AGENDA IS THEN THE MINUTES B ONE B3 THROUGH BEING NINE, CORRECT.

AND THAT WOULD CONCLUDE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANY OR A MOTION? IF THERE'S NOBODY ELSE TO SPEAK IN THE AUDIENCE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING AND APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER, UH, VICE CHAIR.

KOBASA ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT LOOKS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE WILL

[B2. Rezoning: C14-2021-0056 - 1609 Matthews Lane Rezoning; District 5]

MOVE ON TO, UH, ITEM B TWO GOOD EVENING CHAIR.

THIS IS WENDY ROSE WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UH, THIS CASE IS LOCATED AT 1609 MATTHEWS LANE.

IT IS ZONED FRONT ON MATTHEW'S LANE HAS TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, A COUPLE OF OUTBUILDINGS AND IS ZONED SF TWO.

UH, THERE IS A CHURCH AND DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL ACROSS MATTHEW'S LANE TO THE NORTH, A CONVENIENT STORAGE FACILITY AND SINGLE FAMILY

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RESIDENCES TO THE EAST CONVENIENT STORAGE ALSO TO THE SOUTH AND THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD RIGHT OF WAY.

AND DUPLEXES FRONTING MATTHEWS BLAINE TO THE WEST.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO MULTIFAMILY MEDIUM DENSITY.

THAT'S THE MF THREE DENSITY DISTRICT SO THAT IT DEVELOPED WITH UP TO 12 RESIDENCES AND IS CONTEMPLATING A SITE LAYOUT THAT INCLUDES DETACHED STANDALONE UNITS.

UH, THE APPLICANT REPORTS THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL PROTECTED TREES OF WHICH THREE ARE HERITAGE SIZE AND ALL THOSE HERITAGE TREES WILL BE PRESERVED ON THE PROPERTY.

THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION DIFFERS FROM THE APPLICANT, THE APP, THE STAFF IS ONLY RECOMMENDING MF TWO HERE THAT IS, UH, ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF UP TO 23 UNITS PER ACRE.

AND MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 40 FEET OR THREE STORIES.

UM, THAT IS THERE, THERE IS A 44 HEIGHT LIMIT FOR THE DISTRICT AS WELL.

THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING MF TWO CONSISTENT WITH RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND WEST AND CAN AND ADJACENCY TO THE COMMERCIAL USES TO THE EASTERN SOUTH.

UH, THE STAFF BELIEVES THAT MF TWO ZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT DUPLEX, DUPLEX, RESIDENTIAL USES AND STILL PROMOTE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO A RAILROAD, UH, AND HOWEVER, THERE THE PROPERTY DOES Y ON MATTHEWS LANE, WHICH IS A TWO LANE ROADWAY.

AND UNDER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION UP TO 13 UNITS COULD BE ACHIEVED ON THIS, UH, 0.604 ACRE PROPERTY.

UH, THE APPLICANT HAS MET WITH NEIGHBORS WITH TULANE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND BOTH ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU.

THANKS WENDY.

OKAY.

AND SO NEXT WE'LL HEAR FROM THOSE IN FAVOR.

IT'S LIKE WE JUST HAVE THE APPLICANT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK OF VICTORIA OR RON.

ARE YOU ON THE LINE? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

THIS IS VICTORIA WITH, UH, VICTORIA HOSTI WITH RIVER DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO GIVE YOU AN ORIENTATION OF THE AREA.

THE SUBJECT TRACKS IS IN BLUE AND THE IMAGE, THE FIRST SLIDE OF THE PRESENTATION.

UM, IT IS SOUTH OF THE IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CORRIDOR.

THAT'S WILLIAM CANNON, AND IT'S ABOUT A HALF MILE BY WALKING PATHS TO THE INTERSECTION OF WILLIAM CANNON AND MANCHESTER ROAD.

UM, I'M SORRY, ACTUALLY, THAT'S UH, NO, THAT'S TRUE.

SORRY, I'M GETTING CONFUSED.

THAT'S THE AREA YOU SEE, UH, SHADED IN YELLOW AND IT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS, WHICH YOU SEE IN PURPLE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS AREA OFFERS QUITE A BIT TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

THROUGH THE VARIOUS SERVICES SEEN HERE, THE RED DOTS REPRESENT CAPITAL METRO BUS STOPS, AND THE YELLOW LINES ARE PRESENT ABOUT QUARTER MILE SEGMENTS.

IT'S A GREAT LOCATION FOR THE REQUESTED DENSITY.

IT WILL PUT MORE PEOPLE IN PROXIMITY TO SERVICES THAT ARE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE, INCLUDING A GROCERY STORE AND MATTHEWS MATTHEWS LANE IS A COLLECTOR STREET WITH QUICK AND EASY ACCESS TO ARTERIAL STREETS WITH TRANSIT.

THE FIGHT HAS ALSO DIRECT ACCESS TO A DESIGNATED BIKE ROUTE OF WHICH I HAVE TRAVELED SEVERAL TIMES TO GET DOWNTOWN.

NEXT WEEK.

THE SUBJECT TRACK IS DONE SF TO, UM, TODAY, WHICH IS ILLEGAL NON-CONFORMING YOUTH.

UM, HE HAS , BUT AGAIN, AS WENDY MENTIONED, UM, THERE ARE, WELL, THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE DWELLING UNITS, UM, BUILT ON THE SITE TODAY.

NEXT SLIDE.

THE CURRENT ACTUAL LAND USE IS IN THE IMAGE BEFORE YOU, UM, DOESN'T ALWAYS MATCH WHAT THE EXISTING ZONING IS.

THE SITE IS OUTLINED IN BLUE, AND AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE , IT'S ADJACENT TO RED, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL, UH, AND PURPLE, WHICH IS INDUSTRIAL.

THAT'S ALSO ACROSS, UH, FROM MATTHEWS LANE.

UM, IT'S ALSO CROSS CIVICS, CROSS NAPPIES LINK FROM CIVICS AND IS NEXT TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND GREEN AND OPEN SPACE AND DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL USES THAT HAVE MULTI-FAMILIES ZONING TO THE WEST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THE VOLUME OF BIRDS IDEA LOOKING SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS AN ORANGE.

THE STORAGE FACILITY TO THE EAST IS, IS THE RED COMMERCIAL AREA.

THE WAREHOUSE STORAGE AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS ARE TO THE SOUTH, WHICH ARE MARKED IN PURPLE.

AND THEN THERE'S THE RAILROAD TRACKS TO THE WEST, WHICH IS ALSO PURPLE CONSIDERED AN INDUSTRIAL USE AS WELL.

NEXT LINE TODAY, THE SUBJECT TRACKS IS A MIX BETWEEN A MULTIFAMILY YEARS WITH MS. FIVE DENSITY.

LIKE THERE IS A SITE, UM, SINCE THE SIZE OF A SINGLE LOT WITH THREE DWELLING UNITS.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS SFC, WHICH ALLOWS FOR ONE DWELLING UNIT AND MAKING THE YOUTH LEGAL,

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BUT NOT COMPLETE, NOT CONFORMING TO ZONING.

SHE HAD THE DWELLING UNITS HAVE EXISTED ON THE SITE SINCE ABOUT THE 1950S.

AND THEN THERE WAS A THIRD CONSTRUCTED IN THE EARLY 2000.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE FOLLOWING IS THE FOLLOWING SLIDES ARE A SERIES OF IMAGES OF WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.

UM, THIS IS THE STORAGE FACILITY, UM, MARKED IN RED.

THE YELLOW.YOU SEE IN THE IMAGE UP IN THE RIGHT-HAND CORNER IS ROUGHLY WHERE THE PICTURE WAS TAKEN.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND THEN RAILROAD TRACK, WHICH IS AN INDUSTRIAL USE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT INTO THE WEST OF THE SITE.

AGAIN, MARKED BY THE YELLOW.YOU SEE IN THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS A POLICY COMMUNICATIONS TOWER, WHICH IS AN INDUSTRIAL USE, BUT TO THIS DAY, SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT TRACK, NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

AND THIS IS THE VIEW OF MATTHEW'S LANE LOOKING NORTH, UM, THE WOODED PRIVACY SENSE THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE PICTURE IS THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE SUBJECT TRACK.

NEXT SLIDE THAT SEPARATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS FROM THE DUPLEX STRUCTURE IS SEEN JUST BEYOND THE IMAGE TO THE LEFT HAND SIDE NEXT TIME, AND THEN WAREHOUSE STORAGE USE THAT'S IMMEDIATELY SOUTH, UM, THAT SHARES A PROPERTY LINE WITH A SUBJECT TRACK.

NEXT SLIDE.

AND THIS IS TAKEN AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS, LOOKING EAST ON MATTHEWS LANE.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS TO THE RIGHT WITH A LIGHT ORANGE PAGE, BEIGE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.

THERE'S YOU CAN SEE THE DETACHED GARAGE THAT'S WHITE.

AND THEN THE TWO STORY, ONE OF THE TWO STORY OR A TWO STORY APARTMENT IN THE BACK, THE THIRD UNITS ACTUALLY NOT VISIBLE FROM THIS IMAGE, THE STORAGE FACILITY IS NEXT IS THE NEXT BLOCK OVER PARTIALLY HIDDEN BEHIND THE TREES THAT ARE ALONG THE LOT LINE.

NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

AND THEN THIS IS MATTHEW'S LAME LOOKING WEST TOWARDS MEN.

CHECK THE OPEN SPACE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PICTURE IS OWNED BY THE CHURCH AND INCLUDES THEIR COMMUNITY GARDEN OF WHICH HIS COAT IS A COMBINATION OF SFX AND COMMERCIAL ZONING ON THAT TRACK.

AND THEN THE SUBJECT TRACK IS LOCATED JUST TO THE LEFT, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE PICTURE FRAME HERE.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE REQUEST, THE FLEX, WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT AT 12 UNITS ON JUST OVER A HALF ACRE OF LAND, AND THAT'S 12 UNITS WITH EACH UNIT BEING AT LEAST TWO BEDROOMS, THE TABLE, THIS TABLE IS ACCUMULATION OF WHAT IS SO AND WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED ALONG THE SPECTRUM OF THE CITY'S DONING DISTRICT HIERARCHY OF INTENSITY.

THE SUBJECT TRACT IS DONE TO SFU, WHICH ALLOWS ONLY ONE DWELLING UNIT THAT HAS DEVELOPMENT OF SF FIVE LEVEL DENSITY WITH THREE UNITS ON A SINGLE LOT.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS FOR 12 UNITS, WHICH IS ACCOMPLISHED BY THE ZONING DISTRICT.

ACCORDING SITE AREA CALCULATIONS THAT REQUIRE AT LEAST 1800 SQUARE FEET PER TWO VETERAN UNIT.

THE SUBJECT TRACKS IS ADJACENT TO SDSU ON AN SF TWO ZONE LOT AND AN INDUSTRIAL USE ON A DR.

ZONE'S LOT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRES COMPATIBILITY SETBACKS WHEN ADJACENT PROPERTIES HAVING TO, UH, HAVING LOW TO MODERATE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING ARE USED.

AND BECAUSE THE BASE ZONING IS SF TWO FOR THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES OF THE PROPERTIES, NEXT DOOR COMPATIBILITY SET BACK TO WE'LL APPLY THE EXISTING SCENARIO WARRANTS, ACTUALLY A CONSIDERATION OF A BLA VARIANCE TO COMPATIBILITY AND TEACHER WITH COMPATIBILITY, APPLYING AND DEVELOPMENT OF ANY STRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY STRUCTURE CAN ONLY OCCUR IN THE GREEN AND BLUE SHADED AREAS.

AND THE IMAGE THAT YOU SEE, NO DEVELOPMENT CAN OCCUR IN THE YELLOW AREA THAT ABUTS THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES, WHICH IS NOT HOW IT'S, HOW COMPATIBILITY IS INTENDED TO FUNCTION.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THIS IMAGE SHOWS YOU IF IT'S THE COMPATIBILITY SCENARIO, THE YELLOW, NO BILLS BUFFER SHOULD BE A DECENT TO YELLOW SHADED PROPERTY.

THAT IS NOT THE CASE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

IN SUMMARY, WE'RE HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR A SMALL INFILL PROJECT THAT NEEDS MS. THREE ZONING TO ALLOW FOR 12 TWO BEDROOM UNITS.

ON 0.4 ACRES INCREASED DENSITY WILL CONTRIBUTE TO MUCH NEEDED HOUSING BACK IN THE CITY AND HOUSING VARIETY AND DENSITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE REQUESTED DENSITY WHILE NOT EXACT TO WHAT'S EXISTING IS COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND USES.

AND THE ABSENCE OF SOMETHING SOMETIMES INDICATES THE NEED.

THE REQUEST IS REQUESTED FOR LAND THAT IS NOT ADJACENT OR DIRECTLY IMPACTING ANY EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

AND IF SMALL INFILL DEVELOPMENT, CAN'T GO HERE ON THE EDGE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE, WHERE COULD IT GO? SO WITH THAT, UH, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND WE REMAIN AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANKS MS. HASI.

UM, MR. THROW, OR YOU'RE ALSO ON HERE.

OH, WAIT.

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LET'S SEE.

YES.

DO YOU, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AS WELL? UH, YES, I DID COMMISSIONERS, UH, RON FRY WE'RE HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO OFFER A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT MF TWO VERSUS MF THREE A WHILE.

UM, WENDY RHODES HAD MENTIONED THAT MF TWO DOES ALLOW 17 UNITS PER ACRE.

I WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THAT 17 UNITS PER ACRE IS ALL EFFICIENCIES, WHICH IS NOT THE PLAN AT ALL HERE.

AND THE PLAN IS TO PUT IN FAMILY HOUSING WITH TWO BEDROOM UNITS MINIMUM AND UNDER MFTA ZONING.

THE MAXIMUM THAT COULD BE, UH, OBTAINED ON THE PROPERTY WOULD BE 10 UNITS.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR MS. REZONING FOR THE POSSIBILITY TO PUT IN 12, PERHAPS A FEW MORE UNITS, IF WE CAN FIT THEM IN THERE.

AND, UH, I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU Q.

OKAY.

NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THOSE OPPOSED AND I HAVE MR. EUGENE SUTTON FIRST, DEAR MR. SUTTON, IF SO, PLEASE PRESS STAR SIX.

ANDREW, ARE YOU THERE? DO YOU KNOW IF MR. SUTTON IS ON THE LINE SHARE COMMISSION LIAISON ED FOR, I DO SEEM AS, OR SOMETHING ON OUR TELECONFERENCE, MR. SUTTON, IF YOU'LL SELECT STAR SIX, IF THAT DOES NOT WORK, IF YOU'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND CALL BACK IN EUGENE, I REPRESENT MATTHEWS LANE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

OUR OUTREACH COMMITTEE MET WITH MS. HOSSAM MAY 21ST, AND SHE PRESENTED A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT.

OUR OUTREACH GROUP SIX, IT COULD SIX ARE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, LIMITING DENSITY TO SIX FEET, SINGLE FAMILY AND OR DUPLEX UNITS, MAXIMUM OF TWO STORIES AND A SIDEWALK ALONG MATTHEWS LANE ASSOCIATION BOUNDARY BEGINS AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND FOLLOWS ALONG MATTHEWS LANE TO COOPER.

AND THEN THE DITMAR ROAD DUPLEXES EXIST TO THE WEST AND NORTH OF 1609 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES PREVAIL BEYOND THIS POINT, ACCEPTING FOR COOPER LANE, CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENTS AND SOUTH TONES, CONSTRUCTION, BORDERING, DAMON AND SHERWOOD.

THERE'S 232 UNIT CONDOMINIUM TRACK EXTENDS ALONG THE TRACKS TO DE MAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSISTS OF MULTI, MULTIPLE SINGLE FAMILY.

LOTS WITH SIZABLE ACREAGE.

TWO BIGGEST ARE 15 PLUS AND MULTIPLE PROPERTIES ARE LISTED FOR SALE NUMBERING SIX.

YOUR DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES MATTHEWS PARKS PARK NINE HOMES ON TWO PLUS ACRES AND 1103 MATTHEWS LANE, FOUR HOMES ON TWO PLUS ACRES, REZONING REQUESTED 1105 MATTHEWS LANE HAD AN INITIAL UNIT NUMBER OF 10 ON ONE ACRE WITH A TOTAL ACRES OF 2.5 WITH A FLOOD PAINT PLAIN ON 1.5, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS REQUESTED FOR SINGLE FAMILY UNITS.

AND THAT CASE IS CURRENTLY POSTPONED.

A VALID PETITION IS BEING SOUGHT FOR 1,609.

MATTHEWS PETITIONERS DO NOT FEAR DEVELOPMENT, BUT DO HAVE CONCERNS AS TO THE DENSITY AND HEIGHT RESIDENTS ON ALBERT LANE, JUST BEYOND THE 200 FOOT PERIMETER ARE EQUALLY CONCERNED WITH HEIGHT THERE'S RECOGNITION THAT INCREASED DENSITY IS FUTURE FOCUS.

HOWEVER, THIS DEVELOPMENT OF 12 UNITS IS MORE CONSISTENT ALONG THE MORE TRADITIONAL TRAFFIC CORRIDOR.

MATTHEW, HIS LANE WAS ALREADY DANGEROUS TO PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLES AND VEHICLES PARKING A DUPLEXES SPILLOVER INTO THE NARROW ROADWAY.

THE ROAD FUNNELS TO 26 FEET AT THE RAILROAD TRACK.

A SIDEWALK DOES EXIST ON THE CHURCH PROPERTY PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.

HOWEVER, CROSSING THE STREET IS AN ADVENTURE TURNING ONTO MATTHEWS FROM WOODVIEW REQUIRES EXTREME CAUTION WITH PARKED CARS AND A HILL BLOCKING ONCOMING VIEWS.

THE SOUTH SIDE OF MATTHEWS EXTENDING UP FROM 1609 TO ALBERT CONSISTS OF A DITCH TO ENGAGE ANY PARKING SPEEDING OF VEHICLES IS A SPEED OF VEHICLES IS A CONSTANT COMMENT FROM RESIDENTS ON MATTHEWS AND WALL ACQUIRING A VALID PETITION FOR 1105 MATTHEWS LANE.

NUMEROUS REMARKS WERE REGARDING THE RACEWAY ONGOING DISCUSSION OF ANY REZONING REQUEST.

ALSO INVOLVES DRAINAGE ISSUES FOR THE AREA IN LARGE RETENTION.

PONDS ARE AT BOTH SOUTH POINTS OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.

SOUTH STONE REQUIRES CONSTRUCTING A BRIDGE TO CONNECT PROPERTIES, MATTHEWS PARK, AND 1103 MATTHEWS LAND HAVE SMALLER RETENTION AREAS, PROPERTIES ALONG THE TRACK WEST OF 1609 MATTHEWS FROM A DRAINAGE DITCH AND UPON DRAINAGE COMMENTS ARISE, 1103 MATTHEWS LANE THEN EXTEND DOWN TOWARDS SHERWOOD AND ELM FOREST.

THE 1609

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SITE AS A LOW LYING AREA IN ANY DEVELOPMENT REQUIRED, EXTENSIVE CONSIDERATION AND STUDY TO MITIGATE DRAINAGE ISSUES.

ONE FINAL COMMENT ABOUT THE MATTHEWS LANE.

I USED TO BE A FAIRLY FREQUENT BICYCLER AND TO CHRISTMAS EVE TO GO, I WAS RIDING MY BICYCLE ON MATTHEW'S LANE, HEADING TOWARDS MANCHESTER, AND I WAS HIT BY A VEHICLE.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT, UH, THE SAFETY OF THE ROAD, BUT IT, UH, HAS SOME REAL ISSUES.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, SORRY.

SO MR. DICKERSON, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? IF SO, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT POSE IN THEIR PLANNING PRINCIPLES, ONE OF THEIR PRINCIPLES WAS THEY OFFERED UP MID STUFF, HOUSES FOR ELLS AND NEEDS AND INCOMES AS WELL AS OFFERING FOR RIDING A TRANSPORTATION OR COUNTER-ARGUMENT IS AS WELL.

THIS MAY HAVE HOW'S.

HE MISSED TO THE AREA CURRENT AS WELL AS FORECASTED SALES FOR THE AREA ON THESE MULTI-HOUSING UNITS THAT DEMONSTRATED THAT HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT INCREASE THE AFFORDABILITY.

IT ONLY INCREASED LAND COST FOR DEVELOPMENT PLANNERS THAT COMMITMENT TO THE SOUTH BOSTON NEIGHBORHOOD.

ALSO, THERE IS NO BIBLE OR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OPTION WITHIN TWO, 200 YEARS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UH, ITEM BROUGHT UP AT ADVOCATE WITH PROTECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER BY ENSURING CONTENTS SENSITIVE DEVELOPMENT.

THE COUNTER-ARGUMENT IS THE HIGH DENSITY ZONING CHANGES.

IT MAY HAVE THREE AND MF TWOS DO NOT PROTECT THIS UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.

THE NEGATIVE IMPACT COMES FROM INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS COVER AS WELL AS REDUCTION IN CENTRAL.

GREENSCAPE THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT CAN HAVE SOMEWHAT WATER VIOLATE THIS LOCATION, JUST NOT CLOSE TO ANY IMAGINED UP AND DESIGNATED ACTIVITY CENTER, AS SUGGESTED BY THE APPLICANT.

ANOTHER IDEA BROCKPORT WAS PROTESTING OF AUSTIN, NATURAL RESOURCES AND ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS BY LIMITING LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION FELDMAN.

IT'S JUST NOT TRUE.

INCREASING THE D DENSITY IN PREVIOUS COVER GOES AGAINST ONE OF THE CORE PRINCIPLES OF IMAGINE.

AWESOME FOR TESTING OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.

MATTHEW'S NEIGHBORHOOD IS UNIQUE AND IMPORTANT SOUTH AUSTIN JUUL, BUT WHICH IS AN ENVIRONMENT CONSISTS OF ABUNDANCE TREES AND GREEN SPACE.

THIS AREA SERVES AND PROVIDE NATURAL AND ORGANIC GILTS RINK, POCKET CREEK AS WELL.

LISTEN, NECESSARILY DRAIN NICHED, ONION CREEK AND SUMMATION.

AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD STRAPPED TO PROMOTE GREEN SPACE BY PRESERVATION.

AND WE PLANTATION IS NATIVE TREES.

IT'S GREENSCAPE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALLOWS FOR WATER FILTRATION SHOULD REDUCE POLLUTION IN THE SOUTH POCKET CREEK PLATEAU.

IT'S ALSO ALLOWED FLOOD CONTROL BE AT GROUND ABSORPTION OF WATER.

THAT WOULD BE NEGATED BY HIGH-DENSITY AND IMPERVIOUS COVER SUCH AS DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS.

THE MORE CONCRETE YOU HAVE ON THE GROUND, THE MORE BUILDINGS YOU HAVE ON THE GROUND, LESS WHAT GRAIN WATER GETS ABSORBED.

THE MORE FLOODING YOU HAVE, KEEP IN MIND THAT THE SOUTH AUSTIN AREA, THIS AREA IS LIKE A PACING POLE, ALL WATER DRAINS DOWN, AND THEN GOES OUT TO DITMAR, BOGGY CREEK AND EVENTUALLY ONION CREEK.

CAN WE BRING UP THE, UH, POWERPOINT SLIDE SO I CAN GO OVER THERE, PLEASE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THESE REAL QUICKLY, I GUESS NOT, BUT I WANT US TO SHOW WHAT THE SLUDGE, OH, I'M SORRY.

IT'S I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT, BUT I, I SEE A MAP WITH A CIRCLE AND A RED ARROW POINTING TO THE LOCATION.

THAT'S WHERE THE RAILROAD CROSSING TRACK IS.

I DON'T SEE IT ON MY SCREEN.

SKIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, YOU SEE A PICTURE, UH, MATTHEWS ROW GOING UP AND GOING DOWN.

WHAT YOU CANNOT SEE CLEARLY IS THAT GOES INTO A DITCH.

GO TO NETSUITE.

I PLEASE, THAT ASHLEY HAS A 20 DEGREE, 15 DEGREES SLOPE ON THE UPPER SIDE AND ON THE LOWER SIDE.

THAT'S ONE THAT SLIDE.

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NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AND WHAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY ALSO SLIPS DOWN FOR MASTERS LAND, WHERE THE RAILROAD CROSSING IS, AND THAT SMALL DITCH COLLECTS ALL THE WATER AND IT WILL COME UP, LET THE CROSSING ZONE ISSUE.

IF IT'S NOT CORRECTED MISLED, PLEASE BEHIND THE RAILROAD TRACKS IT, SEE THE STRAIN IT'S PACKED.

IT'S ALL YOU SEE.

THAT'S AWESOME.

THAT'S ALL THE TRAINEES THREE IS SO AS THE WATER COMES DOWN FOR THE PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDE OF THE STREET, THAT'S GOING TO COLLECT ALONG THIS RAILROAD TRACK.

THAT'S WHY, PLEASE.

THIS IS JUST A REMINDER THAT FLOODING THAT OCCURRED IN 2001, 2013 AND 2015, IT ALL STARTED ON BEN.

WHY STARTED DOING THE BAR SOUTH BAKI AREA, WENT DOWN TO DOCKET CREEK, THE CREEK AND COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

DAMMIT.

THERE WAS AS WELL AS 825 DAMAGE RESIDENCE.

SO A WHAT CLOSE BY SENATE ENCOURAGING COUNCIL TO BE CONSCIOUS OF IS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE VIEW OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAY, THIS DOESN'T REPRESENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTERISTICS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THIS IS THE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS AS IT ENCROACHES AND APPROACHES TO OTHER AREAS OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASHLEY CLEAR INCREASE ISSUES.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO NEXT WE HAVE, THE APPLICANT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A REBUTTAL.

SO, UM, YES, COMMISSIONERS VICTORIA HAS AGAIN.

UM, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THESE POINTS.

THERE WERE SEVERAL PUT OUT THERE, BUT IT, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS YOU SAID, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CONCERNED ABOUT HEIGHT AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT, UH, TO PUT A CEO ON THE PROPERTY TO LIMIT HEIGHT TO TWO STORIES.

BUT MY, THE QUESTION I'M ASKING IS, IS WHAT IS THE CONCERN FOR THREE STORIES ON THIS PROPERTY WHEN THE PROPERTY IS NOWHERE NEAR AND HE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES OF, OF TWO STORIES OR LESS? UM, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT NO, YOU KNOW, THREE STORIES IS NOT GOING TO BE INTRUSIVE TO ANY EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOWHERE NEAR, UM, TOUCHING THIS THAT WOULD MAKE THAT AN ISSUE.

BUT, UM, ALSO MATTHEW LANE IS A COLLECTOR.

IT'S NOT A LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT MATTHEW'S LANE IS IN NEED OF, UM, GREATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S PORTIONS OF IT THAT ARE STILL DO NOT HAVE CURB AND GUTTER.

AND, UM, I'VE, I'VE TRAVELED MATTHEW'S LANE SEVERAL TIMES.

I ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE AREA AND I'VE WRITTEN MY BREAKDOWN MATTHEWS LANES TO GET TO DOWNTOWN.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR SOME UPGRADES, UM, FOR TRANS TRANSIT OPTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT COMING TO THIS AREA IS ONLY GOING TO HELP THAT TO HAPPEN MORE QUICKLY THAN RELYING ON, UH, THE CITY FUNDING TO DO THAT.

SO, UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUES REGARDING THOSE CONCERNS REGARDING DRAINAGE, UM, AND HOW THE SITE DRAINS AND HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WILL, UH, THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE BE ABLE TO HANDLE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW Y'ALL HEAR THIS QUITE A BIT AND I'LL JUST REITERATE, YOU KNOW, ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENS TODAY IS HELD TO ATLAS 14 STANDARDS.

AND THAT INCLUDES FOR WATER QUALITY AND DETENTION.

AND SO THE, THE PROJECT IS GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE TO THE CITY THAT IT CAN HANDLE ANY ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE THAT THAT COULD COME ABOUT AND, AND IN A WAY THAT THE CITY AUTHORIZES AND IS OKAY WITH AND ABIDE BY THE OUT OF THE 14 REGULATIONS.

UM, ALSO HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE UNITS THAT COST LESS, THAT COST LESS.

THEN IF THIS SITE WERE TO REDEVELOP WITH TWO OR EVEN THREE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, UM, THOSE HOUSES ARE GOING TO COST A LOT MORE PER UNIT THAN THE 12 HOUSES THAT WOULD BE PUT IN HERE.

IF WE CAN GET THE ZONING CHANGE THAT WE'RE REQUESTING SARAH, UM, INCREASED DENSITY, FOUR AREAS, IT DOES PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS BECAUSE IT DIRECTS GROWTH AWAY FROM THE OUTER GREEN AREAS OF AUSTIN.

THAT'S NOT WHERE WE WANT TO GO.

WE WANT TO LEAVE THAT GREEN.

WE WANT TO LEAVE IT ALONE.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING HERE, WE NEED MORE HOUSING.

AND THE ANSWER IS NOT TO SPLIT OUTWARD IT'S TO INCREASE DENSITY IN THE CORE WHERE WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, SOME INFRASTRUCTURE I'LL, I'LL BE AT THERE'S A LOT OF IT THAT NEEDS UPGRADING, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO SPREAD FURTHER OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.

SO

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THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS TO PERFORM ACCORDING TO THE REGULATIONS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AND, AND WATER DETENTION.

SO ALSO DEVELOPMENT WILL BE RECORDED.

UM, OH, I ALREADY SAID THAT DEVELOPMENT WILL BE REQUIRED TO HANDLE ANY ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE THAT IS, UM, AND THAT IS, UM, PRETTY GOOD FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND, UM, I THINK YOU'VE READ, THERE'S NOT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT EXISTS FOR THIS PROPERTY TODAY FOR DRAINAGE, AND THAT WILL BE IN, IN DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL, AGAIN, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANY OF YOU HAVE RON IS AVAILABLE AND WE ASKED FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? ANDREW SAID THAT I WASN'T TALKING LOUD ENOUGH.

YES.

OKAY.

UM, LET'S SEE.

SO I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM COMMISSIONER DINKLER AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WOODY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY, GREAT.

THAT LOOKS UNANIMOUS.

SO, UH, WHO HAS, WHO WANTS TO START MR. KING? THANK YOU CHAIR.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT AND ALSO FROM THE, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL IN THIS.

UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THOUGH.

MAYBE TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD, YOU KNOW, BROUGHT UP IN HOW THOSE COULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO, UH, HOW ABOUT SIDEWALKS? WILL THE SIDEWALKS BE PROVIDED AS PART AS DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE FRONTAGE ON THIS, ON THIS PROPERTY HERE, UH, COMMISSIONER KING, THIS THE ROADS.

YES.

THEY WILL BE REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF THERE'S AN OVERSIGHT PLAN.

OKAY.

OKAY.

EXCELLENT.

AND I ASSUME THAT THAT SITE WILL WORK.

WE'LL GO TO THE EXTENT OF THEIR, OF THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FRONTAGE THEY HAVE THERE, IT WON'T GO BEYOND THAT.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND AS IT RELATES TO THE, THE RAILROAD CROSSING THERE, IN TERMS OF SIDEWALKS, WILL THAT SIDEWALK, I MEAN, ARE THEY, WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO DO ANYTHING TO HELP MAKE THE SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, CROSS OVER THE RAILROAD OR DOES IT JUST STOP RIGHT THERE AT THEIR PROPERTY LINE? UH, THAT, THAT WOULD QUESTION WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED BY AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. ROGER.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I LIVE IN THE ZILKER NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE A RAILROAD TRACK NEARBY HERE, AND I SEE THAT REGULARLY.

AND, AND I KNOW THAT BEFORE THE CITY MADE A REALLY, REALLY SIGNIFICANT UPGRADES TO THE SIDEWALK TO CROSS THAT RAILROAD TRACK, IT WAS AN IMPEDIMENT TO BICYCLE LISTS AND IT WAS DANGEROUS, VERY DANGEROUS.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS I UNDERSTAND THIS SITE, THIS PARTICULAR RAILROAD, UH, THEY HAVE A, I THINK, ARE, ARE THEY SET UP TO NOT, NOT BLOW THE HORN UNLESS THEY SEE AN ISSUE OR A PARTICULAR CONCERN OR RIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

I MEAN, AND ANY, UM, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, IN ANY SIDEWALK ALONG OR ACROSS THE RAILROAD TRACKS WOULD OF COURSE REQUIRE A COORDINATION WITH THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD.

RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO GET THE SIDEWALK, BUT I CAN TELL YOU HERE IN ZILKER, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THAT HAS MADE SUCH A DIFFERENCE.

I JUST GET SO FRIGHTENED WHEN I SEE BICYCLIST GOING BEFORE THE SIDEWALKS WENT UP, TRYING TO CROSS THAT IN HOW DANGEROUS THAT IS THERE.

SO I THINK THAT'S IT.

BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY GOOD THING THAT WOULD HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HELP THIS DEVELOPMENT.

IF WE COULD ADDRESS THAT IN TERMS OF, UH, GUTTERS AND, UH, IN, UH, CURVES, I ASSUME THERE'LL BE SOME KIRK CUTS ARE CLEAR CURBS PUT IN AND THEN CURB CUTS TOO, FOR THE INGRESS AND EGRESS INTO THIS SITE FROM MATTHEWS.

YES.

OKAY.

AND PART OF THAT, I UNDERSTAND IT AFFECTS THE DRAINAGE.

AND SO THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK I REFERRED TO THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING.

WE HAD A DEVELOPMENT HERE IN ZILKER, UH, SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR AGO OR SO, AND IT'S COME ONLINE AND, UM, AND THE DRAINAGE, THE WAY THEY'RE HANDLING THE DRAINAGE THERE IS THEY'RE DRAINING THE WATER DIRECTLY ONTO THE STREET AND, UH, FROM THEIR SIDE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, AND SO WHEN THERE'S A HEAVY RAIN EVENT, OF COURSE, THERE'S RAIN ALREADY ON THE STREET AND THEN MORE COMING OUT FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, FROM THIS P YOU KNOW, THE SITE THAT'S IN PRODUCTION NOW, IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S IN, IT'S, IT'S FULLY FUNCTIONAL.

AND THEN, BUT WHEN IT, WHEN IT STOPS RAINING, IT STILL DRAINS WATER ON TO THAT FRONTAGE ONTO THAT ROAD.

AND WHAT HAPPENS IS IT'S WASHED OUT THE INTERSECTION THERE MULTIPLE TIMES.

AND SO I WONDER, WHAT IS, HOW WILL THE DRAINAGE BE HELD, UH, ADDRESSED HERE? WILL, WILL IT BE, WILL THEY BE PUTTING IT DIRECTLY ONTO THE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE? HOW IS THAT DRAINAGE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN?

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I, AS THE STAFF, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT OTHER THAN THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PR UH, PROVIDE TO THE CITY PRE AND POST DEVELOPMENT, UM, DRAINAGE ANALYSIS WITH THE SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN.

RIGHT.

AND I BROUGHT UP THE POINT LAST TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO USE THAT TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE TO ROUTE THAT WATER DOWN TO A STORM DRAIN.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT WHEN THAT WATER HAS TO TRAVEL A LONG DISTANCE AND GO THROUGH INTERSECTIONS AND THEN FINALLY GET TO A STORM DRAIN, I THINK STAFF SHOULD REALLY LOOK CLOSELY AT THAT WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE FIGURING OUT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO DRAIN RUNOFF FROM THESE DEVELOPMENTS, BECAUSE WHO ENDS UP PAYING FOR THE REPAIR OF THAT TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GETS DAMAGED FROM THIS WATER FLOWING REGULARLY.

UH, SO I MADE MY POINT THERE AND I'LL MOVE ON THE, UH, UH, IN TERMS OF THE FLOOD PLAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THIS IS, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS PROPERTY ABUTS, THE FLOOD PLAIN, THE FLOOD PLAIN, BUT IT, IT'S NOT IN THE FLOODPLAIN AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, IS THAT CORRECT? I SAW THAT BLUE ON THE MAP, IT LOOKED LIKE, WAS THAT A FLOOD PLAIN IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT, BUT NOT IN THE FLOOD PLAIN CAN STAFF.

IT IS, WELL, IT MAY ENCROACH A LITTLE BIT.

IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL, BUT IF, SO, IT WOULD BE ADJACENT DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE UNION PACIFIC TRACK.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, AND THEN SEE WHAT I'M SAYING IS I SEE ON THE MAP THAT IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE FLOOR.

AND I SEE, I SEE WITH MY OWN EYES, HOW WE'VE HANDLED BEFORE IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, HOW THAT, THAT WATER NOW FLOWS THIS W SO I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS WATER'S GOING TO FLOW INTO THIS AREA.

THAT'S ALREADY ADJACENT TO A FLOOD PLAIN AND CREATE MORE FLOODING ISSUES.

SO I'M JUST GETTING THAT ON THE, ON THE RECORD THERE.

UM, AND THE, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE BUS STOP.

WHERE IS THE NEAREST BUS STOP TO THIS SITE? TORI, DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT? I DO.

GIVE ME JUST A SECOND, SECOND, GET BACK TO THAT IMAGE.

AND IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO PULL UP THE SECOND SLIDE OF MY PRESENTATION, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE LOCATION THAT, UM, THE NEAREST BUS STOP BY WALKING DISTANCE IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF A MILE.

OKAY.

AND DO YOU KNOW, OKAY.

OKAY.

YES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION.

AND, AND THANK YOU, UH, VICTORIA, FOR THAT INFORMATION.

I WAS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU AND RON TRIED TO REALLY LOOK AT HOW YOU CAN GET FOLKS ONTO THE BUS, YOU KNOW, USING OUR BUS SYSTEM, OUR BUS TRANSIT SYSTEM.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I WONDER, IS THERE ANYTHING Y'ALL CAN DO ON THIS DEVELOPMENT TO HELP FACILITATE THAT? WELL, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS, ONE OF THE THINGS TO CONSIDER IS THAT AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN, TRANSPORTATION REVIEW IS GOING TO ADD IS GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT'S PROPOSED, AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE REQUESTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, TO THE DEGREE THAT THEY CAN TO HELP MAKE ANY IMPROVEMENTS, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, TRANSIT OPTIONS IN THIS AREA.

SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE YET.

UM, UM, YOU KNOW, ATB WON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE YET UNTIL WE SUBMIT SOMETHING TO THEM AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PUT TOGETHER A FULL SITE PLAN TO SUBMIT.

AND SO WE, WE HAVE THE ZONING, SO KIND OF WAITING TO SEE, SEE WHAT COMES OF THAT.

BUT, UM, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT CAN, CAN, AND WILL CONTRIBUTE TO OTHER TRANSPORTATION RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE.

YES.

THANK YOU.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THEN.

MY LAST QUESTION IS ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I DO, I, YOU MADE A POINT EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOUR SITE IS RIGHT NEXT TO THIS, A COMMERCIAL REALLY IT'S A COMMERCIAL SITE, BUT IT'S GOT RESIDENTIAL USES ON IT.

AND SO I, YOU KNOW, YOUR POINT REALLY HIT HOME TO ME THERE.

AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE PERSPECTIVES HERE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT MAKES ME, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING, OKAY, WELL, YOU, I DON'T KNOW.

YOU MAY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE AT GETTING A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT VARIANCE FOR THAT ISSUE TOO, BECAUSE I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT'S, IT'S A REASONABLE POINT YOU'RE MAKING THERE, BUT IT'S ALSO TELLING ME, SENDING ME THE MESSAGE THAT NOW YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PUT MORE DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SAME SIDE.

SO THAT'S LEADING ME TO THINK THAT MF TOO, IT MAY BE MORE THAN YOU NEED.

ONE MAY BE A BETTER FIT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD IT, IF YOU GET THAT VARIANCE, YOU WILL BE ALLOWED TO DEVELOP MORE OF THE SIDE AND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GET MORE UNITS ON THERE.

SO, SO I, I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT A GOOD BALANCE BETWEEN GETTING MORE UNITS, GETTING MORE USE OF OUR TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND, AND, AND FITTING IN WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S A REAL TOUGH THING TO DO.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I KNOW THE STAFF IS REALLY WORKING ON THAT TOO, AND OUR COMMISSION AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SMITH, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP.

YEAH.

UM,

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I CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DRAINAGE.

THIS SITE IS ACTUALLY IN THE VERY UPPER REACHES OF THE WAY IT'S PRETTY WATERSHED AND NOWHERE NEAR A FLOOD PLAIN.

UH, THE NEAREST FLOOD PLAIN IS OVER A HALF A MILE AWAY IN NORTH, UH, UM, NORTH OF WILLIAM CANNON DRIVE AND ALSO NORTH OF STASHING LANE.

UM, AND IT, IT RUNS ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

SO THE SITE WILL DRAIN NATURALLY EAST TO WEST INTO THE DRAINAGE DITCH ON THE SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACK.

AND THEN ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACK FOR ABOUT A HALF A MILE DOOR, OR IT'S A FLOOD PLAIN, WHAT YOU DO SEE IS THERE'S A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE ADJACENT TO THE SITE AND A CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE HAS SOME SETBACKS.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT CRITICAL WATER QUALITY IS ON, OR IT'S NEAR THE UPPER REACHES OF THAT CRITICAL WATER QUALITY THOUGH.

UH, BUT AGAIN, NOWHERE NEAR, UH, FEMA FLOW POINTS ON THE DRAINAGE EXACTLY SET UP VERY WELL FOR THIS TRACKING THAT IT WOULD DRAIN EAST TO WEST INTO THE RAILROAD TRACK.

RANDY'S DOOSAN THAT ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS UNTIL IT GETS INTO WILLIAMSON CREEK, UH, THAT I HAVE A MOUTH IN THE DOOR.

UM, AGAIN, I THINK THIS SITE IS SET UP WELL FOR MULTIFAMILY.

UM, IT'S CLOSE TO, TO THE BUS STOPS, UM, MATTHEW'S LANE, THIS IS A HEAVILY TRAVELED BICYCLE AREA.

I RUN A BICYCLE IN THIS AREA QUITE A BIT AS WELL.

UM, MANCHESTER ROAD, MATTHEW LANE IN THAT AREA IS CLOSE TO SHOPPING IS CLOSE TO BUS STOPS.

UM, SO I THINK IT WILL BE IDEAL.

ADDING A SIDEWALK WOULD BE IMPORTANT.

UH, I THINK THAT WILL BE A VERY GOOD IDEA TO ADD A SIDEWALK.

I'M SURE THAT WILL BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

UM, STAFF WILL ALSO LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE ISSUES.

UH, I DON'T SEE ANY LOCALIZED FLOODING IF I LOOK TO FLOOD ROAD AND SEE ANY LOOK, LESS RAINY ISSUE, THE STAFF WILL LOOK AT THAT AND REQUIRE DRAINAGE AS PART OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS.

SO I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING FROM ENGINEERING, THE REASON WHY THE MULTIFAMILY WOULD WORK WELL ON THE SITE.

IT CHAIR, MAY I JUST THINK COMMISSIONER SMITH FOR THAT? I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THE CHART IS SHOWING A CREEK BUFFER, NOT, UH, THAT'S CONFUSING, CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A FLOOD PLAIN TO ME.

YEAH, I AGREE.

IT LOOKS LIKE A FLOOD, BUT IT'S REALLY, IT'S A CREEK, BUT THE CREEK IS A HALF A MILE NORTH OF HERE.

THIS IS THE VERY UPPER REACHES UP ON THE WATER.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SMITH.

SURE.

THAT'S ALL I GOT.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

DANCLER YOU'RE ON MUTE.

IS THAT BETTER? YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

UM, IT IS THE DRAIN.

I REALIZE IT'S THE UPPER, A PORTION OF THE WATERSHED AND THE DRAINAGE GOES TO A DITCH ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACK.

UM, AND THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MR. SMITH.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT IT'LL ERODE THE GRAVEL AND, UM, STOP THAT AS KEEPING THE RAILROAD TRACKS ELEVATED? THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE IN DISTRICT SEVEN AND SIX WHERE WE'VE HAD A RAILROAD TRACKS ERODED OUT.

I DIDN'T SEE A DITCH ON THE PRESENTATION THAT MAYBE I'M MISSING IT.

AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR WENDY WITH A QUICK ONE.

I'VE NEVER SEEN YOU BURNED.

YES.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A ROSE AND A LOT OF BALLAST.

I'VE DONE SOME, SOMETHING ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS ALONG MANSHACK ROAD, FURTHER SOUTH, AND THEY DRAIN ALONG THIS SAME DRAINAGE DITCH ALONG BEHIND MACHEK ROAD, CLOSER TO THE CITY OF MACHACA OR MANCHAC.

UM, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT AT ALL.

BE UNUSUAL.

THAT BALANCE IS PRETTY HEAVY, PRETTY COMPASSIONATE, UH, RELATIVE TO THAT.

AND THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH FLOW BEING UP IN THE VERY UPPER REACHES OF THIS PLACE.

AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE FLOW COMING THROUGH THIS AREA.

THANK YOU.

UM, AND THEN A QUICK QUESTION FOR MS. RHODES.

I DIDN'T HEAR AND HOPE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION, UM, AS TO WHAT THE MAPPING IS, LANE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR REQUESTED.

I THINK I CAUGHT THAT THEY WERE WANTING MF ONE OR MF TWO, FOUR, SIX DUPLEXES LIMITED TO TWO STORIES.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHICH THEY ASKED FOR? AND IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER, OF COURSE, I'LL ASK MR. SUTTON.

UH, AND THEN IS THERE A DEFINITION FOR STORIES IT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD REQUEST, TWO STORIES.

WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER THAT TO BE? IS IT 24 FEET OR IS IT 30 FEET? IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE WENT WITH A C OH, DO WE HAVE TO SAY, UM, TWO STORIES OR DO WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY PUT A HEIGHT LIMIT WITH FEET, FEET, YOU KNOW, NUMBER IN IT, UH, COMMISSIONER DENTLER, UH, REGARDING YOUR, YOUR SECOND QUESTION.

UH, WE DO NEED A, A FEET AND HEIGHT OR A HEIGHT IN X AS EXPRESSED IN A NUMBER OF FEET.

UM, IT CAN SAY TWO STORIES, BUT IT HAS TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY A FIGURE THAT IN FEET FOR HEIGHT.

AND THEN I DO NOT RECALL RECEIVING, UH, CORRESPONDENCE

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FROM THE MATTHEWS LANE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THERE WAS A PETITION THAT WAS FILED AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP.

I DON'T, I, I DID HEAR THE, UH, MR. SUTTON SAY SIX RESIDENCES, BUT I DON'T HAVE CORRESPONDENCE TO THAT EFFECT.

AND IF MR. SUTTON IS AVAILABLE, UH, HOPI CAN BE PATCHED IN ON, IT SOUNDS LIKE HE'S LOOKING MF ONE, UM, WITH SIX DUPLEXES, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S ALLOWABLE.

AND, UM, BECAUSE THE PETITION SAID AT MAP ONE, UM, AND, BUT THERE IS NO STANDARD FOR TWO STORIES.

WE, WE DON'T CONSIDER IT, UH, 28 FEET, FOR EXAMPLE, OR 30 FEET.

WE NEED TO HAVE A HEIGHT AS EXPRESSED IN FEET.

OKAY.

YOU CAN SAY TWO STORIES IS FINE, BUT WE DO NEED AN ACCOMPANYING HEIGHT.

GOTCHA.

I'VE EXPRESSED IN FEET FOR MS. UH THAT'S BUT THAT IS ALL THE CORRESPONDENCE I HAVE.

GOTCHA.

IS MR. SUTTON AVAILABLE FOR QUESTION? OH, I'M SORRY.

THE HEARING IS CLOSED.

UM, WITHDRAW CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDOVER.

MR. SUTTON IS ON THE LINE.

HEN THE COMMISSION ALWAYS HAS A RIGHT TO, UM, ASK QUESTIONS OF THE PUBLIC.

IF YOU ALL WILL INDULGE.

I'D LOVE TO ASK HIM A QUICK QUESTION.

UH, MR. SUTTON.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL ARE LOOKING FOR , UH, WITH SIX DUPLEX UNITS.

WHAT HEIGHT LIMIT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IN TWO STORIES WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR 28 FEET, 30 FEET DID MY, THIS IS MR. SUTTON.

AGAIN, OUR OUTREACH COMMITTEE LOOKED AT SIX SINGLE FAMILY UNITS OR, AND OR DUPLEX UNITS.

WE LOOKED AT TWO STORY.

WE'RE GOING FOR AN .

I WOULD VENTURE A GUESS OF 35 FEET.

I THINK IF, UH, WAS 40 FEET AND WE WERE LOOKING CLOSER TO 35 FEET, BUT I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE IF THAT'S, UH, A NUMBER OF THE GROUP, BUT AGAIN, IT WAS, UH, EXPRESSED BY THE PETITIONERS WHO LIVE CLOSE, INCLUDING THE, UH, STORAGE UNIT THAT, UH, THERE WAS GREAT CONCERN ABOUT THE HEIGHT AND THEN THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUTSIDE OF THE PETITION AREA, WHO AROUND ALBERT, WHO, UH, WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

WHO ELSE HAS A QUESTION? I SHOULDN'T HURT VICE CHAIR TO GO BOSSA.

EXCUSE ME.

UM, I, WHEN WE HAD ANOTHER CASE, UH, I THINK IT WAS ONE, ONE OH NINE MATTHEW'S LANE COME BEFORE US ONE, ONE OH FIVE.

UM, I DELVE MORE INTO THE WATERSHED ISSUES AND IT IS REALLY HARD TO FIND SOME INFORMATION, BUT THEY HAD POINTED ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND THERE IS, THERE ARE SOME REPORTS OF LOCALIZED FLOODING, ESPECIALLY AT THOSE RAILROAD TRACKS, UM, AND, UM, AND CHERRY MEADOW.

AND IN FACT THAT AT ALBERT ROAD, THAT IS A WHOLE, UH, LOCALIZED FLOOD PLAIN FLOODING AREA.

AND THAT AREA HAS NOT BEEN MAPPED FOR FLOOD PLAIN.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, UM, IF THAT REALLY MATTERS THAT MUCH, BUT THERE ARE CASES OF ALONG MATTHEWS LANE AND, UM, AT THE RAILROAD TRACKS OF, OF LOCALIZED FLOODING AND ON THE WATERSHED PROTECTION, UM, MAPPING GIS MAPPING.

AND ALSO, SO I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FLOODING IN THAT.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE CAN BE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT I WOULD ACTUALLY BE HAPPY TO SEE IS THERE TO S TO SEE MORE OF A STUDY OF THAT AREA BEFORE WE PUT IN ANYTHING.

AND I FELT THAT WAY BEFORE WITH THE OTHER MATTHEW'S LANE CASE.

SHE, BECAUSE IT IS JUST NOT, I THINK IT'S JUST, UM, THAT IS ADJACENT TO A WHOLE LOCALIZED FLOOD AREA OF WHAT W WE'RE PROBLEM PRO OR I WAS GOING TO CALL IT A PROBLEM PRO UH, UM, IDENTIFIED PROBLEM AREA.

SO I, UM, WHEN DO YOU

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KNOW ABOUT, AND I HAD ASKED MATT HOLLAND ABOUT THIS, ARE THERE ANY PROPOSED INFRASTRUCTURE, MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS OR PROJECTS PROPOSED FOR THIS AREA? BECAUSE THAT, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PICTURES IS REALLY NOT, UM, IS ISN'T ISN'T UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT CURRENT PRACTICES RIGHT NOW? UH, THIS IS WENDY ROSE.

I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY DRAINAGE TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, PART OF A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT OR SOMETHING THAT THE, THAT THE CITY WOULD INITIATE ON ITS OWN.

THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING I, THAT I COULD LOOK INTO, UH, WITH WATERSHED BETWEEN, UM, BEFORE THIS GOES TO COUNCIL, BUT I, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND ALSO I DO APPRECIATE THE WATERSHED DEPARTMENT, CAUSE THEY'VE BEEN REALLY NICE AND HELPFUL, AND I DO HAVE TO SAY, I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE, SO THAT'S AN ISSUE AND THAT'S WHY I'M NOT, I'M, I'M VERY NERVOUS ABOUT, UM, HAVING A LOT OF DENSITY THERE, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE VICTORIA'S HONESTY BECAUSE I DID ASK HER ABOUT IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER MP3 PROJECTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SHE SAID NO, AND I, I, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH ABOUT THAT.

UM, I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THAT'S IT.

THAT WAS JUST MY COMMENT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE GROUP? I I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT I, UM, AGREE THAT A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THE LOCATION, GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT AND OTHER, UM, RESOURCES AND THE SEPARATION FROM SINGLE FAMILY, AS IT'S SHOWN.

I KNOW THAT LAST WEEK, A TOWER OF 132 UNITS SOLD OUT IN FIVE HOURS, AND WE HAVE AN URGENT PROBLEM WITH LACK OF HOUSING AND THE FACT THAT THERE ARE THREE PROPERTIES, THREE HOUSES ON THIS PROPERTY TODAY.

UM, I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, WHAT I, I THINK THAT WHAT STAFF HAS THAT I FEEL LIKE STAFF HAS DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND ARE BEING VERY REASONABLE WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

AND I WOULD SUPPORT THE ZONING AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF.

UM, THAT'S JUST HOW I FEEL, BUT, UM, I'M, I'M HEARING THE CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINAGE AND THE FACT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BUILD A NEW SIDEWALK AND POTENTIALLY UPGRADE THE DRAINAGE WHERE THAT SIDEWALK IS GOING.

SO I ASSUME THAT'S PART OF THEIR WOULD BE PART OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION, CURB AND GUTTER AS WE'VE DISCUSSED.

UM, SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT, I'M, WHAT I'M HEARING AND FEELING RIGHT NOW.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WANTS, WANTS TO RESPOND TO THAT.

I'M WONDERING IF THE, UM, IMPERVIOUS COVER, UM, YOU'D GO ALONG WITH THE EMMETT TO SONY, IF THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT CONCERN OR REDUCED IMPERVIOUS COVER, IT WOULD GO, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE SUGGESTING, UM, THE 55% HAVE THAT 55% IMPERVIOUS COVER, UM, BUT ALLOW FOR MF TWO, WHICH IS A HIGHER NUMBER OF UNITS PER ACRE, OR RESTRICT THEM TO ONLY 55% IN FROM DISCOVERY.

OKAY.

I WOULD BE THAT SOUNDS COMMISSIONER KING.

YES.

UH, I'M.

I'LL GET EMOTION OUT THERE JUST SO WE CAN START GETTING SOMETHING DECIDED HERE, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE NOW I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYBODY OFF.

SURE.

OKAY.

SO I'LL, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH, UH, THIS, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON'S, UH, SUGGESTION ABOUT 55% IMPERVIOUS COVER, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAVE TO JUST KIND OF THINKING OUT LOUD, I WAS GOING TO GO MORE FOR MF ONE BECAUSE IT HAS THE 55%.

SO I'M MORE COMFORTABLE WITH MF TWO WITH THE 55%.

I CAN, I CAN DEAL WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT DOES ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HERE AND THE LOCALIZED FLOODING ISSUES HERE.

AND, UH, UH, WHAT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT AND MAYBE STAFF CAN HELP ME WITH THIS IS CAN WE, UH, I THINK THAT THE HEIGHT MF ONE, TWO AND THREE IS 40 FEET.

SO IT COULD, WE WOULD, WE NEED A CEO TO LIMIT IT TO 36 FEET IN HEIGHT.

SO THE, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS WENDY ROSE AGAIN, UH, FOR THE HEIGHT IS 40 FEET, UM, TO LIMIT IT TO 35

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FEET, WHICH IS, UM, FAMILY CATEGORY.

YES, YOU WOULDN'T NEED A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, BUT IF IT, IF IT'S JUST 40 FEET, WE WOULDN'T NEED TO DO A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR THAT, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY, THAT'S, WHAT'S PERMITTED BY THE, BY THE MULTIFAMILY DISTRICTS.

OKAY.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON THE COMMISSION TONIGHT ABOUT LIMITING THAT.

SO I'D LIKE TO GET THAT OUT THERE TO A CEO TO LIMIT IT TO 35 FEET IN HEIGHT, AND TWO STORIES, TWO STORIES AND 35 FEET IN HEIGHT.

SO THE MOTION WOULD BE MF TWO WITH 55% IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT, AND A CEO WITH A MAX FIVE TO 35 FEET AND TWO STORIES.

I WILL SECOND.

IT I'M SPACING.

THAT'S SCARY.

SO, UH, SO IT SOUNDED LIKE MF TWO WITH 55% IMPERVIOUS COVER AND A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT TO 35, TO SAY 35 FEET OR TWO STORIES.

UH, TWO, TWO STORIES FOR A MAXIMUM OF 35 FEET.

YES.

AND BEFORE, OKAY.

I KNOW JOLENE, YOU SECONDED IT, BUT, BUT I'M WILLING TO GO 36 FEET IF THAT MAKES IT BETTER.

OKAY.

SO I'LL, LET ME JUST DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

I'LL GO WITH 36 INSTEAD OF 35.

SO MF TO A 55% IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT 36 FEET MAXIMUM HEIGHTS, TWO STORIES.

SHARE, ASK YOU A QUESTION.

YES.

SORRY.

JUST BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE, WHAT WERE THE FOUR, THE APPLICANT WILL THOSE RESTRICTIONS ALLOW THEM TO HAVE TO HAVE THEIR PROJECT? GOOD QUESTION.

ARE WE LIKE VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT IS ESSENTIALLY KILLING THEIR PROJECT OR ARE WE VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY WORK WITH? WELL, NO CHAIR A CHAIR.

I WOULD, YOU KNOW, THE MOTION IS NOT COMPLETE UNTIL WE GET A SECOND AND I CHANGED THE MOTION.

SO BASICALLY WHAT THE FIRST ONE, I REPLACED IT WITH THE SECOND ONE.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND, THEN THAT IS A MOOT POINT.

YOU KNOW, THAT DISCUSSION IS MOVED THE SECOND AT, SO, OKAY.

OKAY.

AND OKAY.

AND SHARON, MAY I JUST, JUST READ IT ONE MORE TIME? IT'S THE MF TWO 55% IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMIT A CEO, UH, WITH TWO STORIES MAXIMUM 36 FEET HIGH.

AND THAT WAS, OH, IT WAS SECONDED BY VICE VICE-CHAIR KIELBASA.

RIGHT.

THAT SOUNDED LIKE COMMISSIONER THOMPSON HAD CALLED.

YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO, TO, UM, AND SAY TO COMMISSIONER COSTA, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.

AND I, I, I THINK IF I UNDERSTAND THIS PROPERLY, WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AROUND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.

THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR, UM, A COMPATIBILITY WAIVER, RIGHT.

IS THAT, DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE PROJECT IS SORT OF IN PLAY IN A NUMBER OF WAYS.

AND, UM, SO I SHARE YOUR KIND OF DISCOMFORT AND KNOWING WHAT WE'RE REALLY VOTING ON, BUT IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.

SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT PROPERLY.

AND CHAIR, MAY I JUST CLARIFY? I KNOW, UH, THAT WE HAVE, UH, UH, THE COMMISSIONER BRAY IS NOW ONLINE WITH US AND, UH, I THINK, UH, LET'S SEE, UH, WERE COMMISSIONER RAY ALSO, WAS SHE HERE EARLIER? OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

OKAY.

AND SO, YEAH, THAT WAS COMMISSIONER KOSTA.

WERE YOU HERE WHEN WE DID THE CONSENT? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT YOUR VOTE.

HE WAS NOT YOUR CHAIR ON CONSENT.

OKAY.

YOU VERY MUCH.

I JUST WANT TO TRY AND MAKE SURE MY NOTES ARE CORRECT.

THANK YOU.

SO I THINK, UM, COMMISSIONER KOSTA BRINGS UP A VERY VALID POINT AND I WONDERED IF THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO HIS QUESTION OF AS A ZONING OF MF TWO WITH 55% IMPERVIOUS COVER AND A HEIGHT LIMIT OF 36 FEET OR TWO FLOORS, TWO STORIES, UM, STILL MAKE YOUR PROJECT VIABLE.

ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER RON THROWAWAY.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

UM, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY CONSTRAINTS YOU PUT ON A PROJECT IS GOING TO, UM, OBVIOUSLY LESS THAN THE PROJECT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO LESS THAN A PROJECT BECAUSE OF A DRAINAGE ISSUE, BUT WE HAVE CODES AND ORDINANCES THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT SAYS THAT WE CAN NOT INCREASE THE RUNOFF THAT LEAVES THIS SITE, THAT WE HAVE TO DETAIN IT.

AND SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY ADDITIONAL FLOODING DOWNSTREAM.

MR. KING, YOU SAID WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT DOES GREAT PARK, OR MAYBE IT WAS COMMISSIONER DEAN CLARK AND THEY DO THEY CHECK AND THEY CHECK US ALL THE TIME ON THESE DRAINAGE CALCULATIONS.

AND SO ANY CONSTRAINTS

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THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO PUT ON IS GOING TO LESSEN THE AMOUNT OF YIELD ON THE PROPERTY.

AND I WOULD THINK AFTER HEARING COMMISSIONER TEAM'S DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, WANTING TO DO ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO HELP THE PEDESTRIANS AND THE BICYCLES IN THE AREA THAT ON PROJECTS WE WORK ON, UH, WE HAVE ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY ISSUES THAT WE DEAL WITH AND WE'RE UPGRADING SIDEWALKS THAT ARE 500, 800 FEET AWAY FROM OUR PROJECT AS PART OF OUR MITIGATION EFFORTS.

AND THAT ONLY COMES WITH DENSITY.

THE MORE DENSITY WE GET, THE MORE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN FOR THE BIKES AND THE PEDESTRIANS IN THE AREA.

AND SO AGAIN, WE WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE LIMITATIONS ON THE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND TWO IS GOING TO PROVIDE LESS FAMILY HOUSING LESS THAN PREVIOUS COVERAGE IS GOING TO EQUATE TO LESS UNIT LESS HEIGHT IS GOING TO EQUATE TO LESS BEDROOMS. UM, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY HERE.

UM, UM, I MEAN, AS FAR AS HEIGHTS GOES GRS NEXT DOOR, ESSENTIALLY, WHICH WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR 60 FEET AND HEIGHTS AND THAT'S, WHAT'S INTERVENING BETWEEN US AND THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

UM, UH, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. SMITH.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

UM, JUST KINDA SOME OF