* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. HEY EVERYBODY. UM, [00:00:01] WE'LL GO AHEAD AND IMMENSE [Winter Storm Review Task Force on June 4, 2021. ] OUR MEETING. THIS IS THE JUNE 4TH DEBRIEF SESSION FOR THE WINTER STORM TASK FORCE AND WE'VE GOT QUORUM. SO THANKS EVERYONE FOR ATTENDING AND PATRICIA, IF YOU COULD POP THE AGENDA UP AND WE'LL JUST TAKE A QUICK REVIEW OF THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE, UM, CONFIRMED. WE DON'T HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS TODAY, SO WE'LL BE APPROVING THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MINUTE. OH, LAST MINUTE. LAST MEETING. JUST REALIZE IT SAYS JUNE 2ND. UM, OKAY. THAT, THAT WAS THE DEBRIEF OR THE LISTENING SESSION FROM THE OTHER DAY. WE'LL PROVE THAT, UM, AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS THE RESULTS OF THAT LISTENING SESSION AND ANY NEXT STEPS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE. SO GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THE AGENDA AND, UM, ASK FOLKS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE MINUTES THAT WERE SENT OUT. GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO LOOK THAT OVER AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, LISA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MINUTES OF THE JUNE 2ND MEETING ARE APPROVED. THANK YOU EVERYONE. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE OLD BUSINESS ITEM FOR A DEBRIEF ON THE LISTENING SESSIONS. SO JUST ANY THOUGHTS OR REFLECTIONS ON THE SESSION THAT WE HAD THE OTHER NIGHT? I THINK MANY OF US WERE THERE. SO AS WE'RE ABLE TO HEAR ALL THAT FEEDBACK, YEAH. THIS IS A COMMISSIONER HUMAN-NESS. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT FOR ME WAS OF COURSE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE UNIVERSITY, BUT, UH, AS FAR AS MENTAL HEALTH GOING FORWARD, UM, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT JUST NOT ONLY FOR THE UNIVERSITY, BUT ANYBODY THAT POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, DID SUFFER, YOU KNOW, ANY POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS, UH, DUE TO THE, DUE TO THE INCIDENT THAT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS AVAILABLE OR MADE AVAILABLE OR SOME RESOURCES OR ARE PROVIDED FOR THE FUTURE. EXCELLENT POINT. YEAH. WE HEARD THAT, UM, FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT SPEAKERS OR TESTIMONIES, I GUESS ONE OF THE THEMES THAT ARE COMING THROUGH FROM THAT SESSION, AS WELL AS THE OTHERS IS SIMPLY THE LACK OF PREDICTABILITY OF WHAT LEARNING FROM MOMENT TO MOMENT ALMOST. AND THE, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S PART OF WHAT CREATES THE MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS. YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN'T PLAN FOR THIS. THIS IS GOING TO BE, HEY, YOU KEPT BEING TOLD, OH, IT'S GONE. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A FEW HOURS OR, UM, OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT PEOPLE, IN A SENSE, THE SENSE OF THAT THEY HAD NO ABILITY TO FORECAST OR PREDICT OR CONTROL WHAT WAS GOING ON. SO THIS IS, UM, UM, TASK FORCE MEMBER, MOLLY. I WAS NOT THERE AT, AT THE SECOND HALF OF THE LISTENING SESSION. UM, BUT I DO REMEMBER DISCUSSION, UH, STARTED ON A MENTAL HEALTH. WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT, UM, IN TERMS OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR THE FUTURE, I, I, I, I MAY HAVE MISSED THAT PART. YEAH. NOT SO MUCH AROUND RECOMMENDATIONS, MOLLY. IT WAS JUST MORE THAT WE WERE HEARING THAT FROM, UH, FROM THE SPEAKERS THAT WERE THERE AS WELL AS FROM THE TESTIMONY THAT PEOPLE SUBMITTED AND THAT WE READ IN, UM, THAT EVENING. SO IT JUST SEEMED TO BE A RECURRING THEME AMONG FOLKS THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCED TRAUMA DURING THE EVENT OF EXPERIENCED TRAUMA AFTER THE EVENT AND NEED MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. OKAY. BUT I THINK THERE WAS A PARTICULAR CONCERN AROUND UNIVERSITY STUDENTS JUST BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE FEWER ACCESS TO RESOURCES, BE MORE ISOLATED. UM, AND FRANKLY JUST NOT BE AS, AS GROWN UP, JUST, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH AN EXPERIENCE LIKE THAT AS, AS OTHER FOLKS THAT JUST MIGHT, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. HEY, JEFFERY MORNING. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. ANY OTHER REFLECTIONS ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD THE OTHER NIGHT? I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR WAS THERE. I CAME LATE, SO I MISSED HER REMARKS, BUT ANYTHING FROM THAT. OKAY. ANY, ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST SESSION OR TWO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF NEW AND DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HEARD IN THE INITIAL SESSIONS? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW THE PREVIOUS SESSIONS, JEFFREY, YOU VERY NICELY WROTE UP A LOT OF WHAT [00:05:01] HA WHAT WE HAD HEARD AND YOU WERE SHARING. SO I DO HAVE FAIRLY DETAILED NOTES AS OTHER PEOPLE MAY HAVE. AND I WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO WRITE THOSE UP AND DOING THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO MAKE THAT OFFICIAL, THEN PEOPLE COULD ADD TO IT OR, OR WHATEVER, BUT I THINK HAVING SOME KIND OF WRITTEN RECORD OF WHAT WE HEARD MIGHT BE USEFUL AND IT CERTAINLY WAS USEFUL WHEN YOU DID IT BEFORE JEFFREY. YES. UM, I ALSO HAVE A PRETTY DETAILED NOTES FROM, UM, I GUESS IT'D BE WEDNESDAY'S MEETING. RIGHT. UM, I CAN ALSO PUT TOGETHER THOSE NOTES FROM THE MEETING WE HAD BEFORE. UM, JUST PUT THAT RECORD TOGETHER, BUT, UM, I'LL LEAVE IT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND PUTTING TOGETHER THE ONES FROM YES. FROM WEDNESDAY. WELL, WHEN DID I DO THAT? AND THEN, UM, PEOPLE CAN ADD CORRECT. WHATEVER, CAUSE I'M, I DIDN'T GET AT ALL. YEAH. THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO I JUST SEND THAT TO YOU PATRICIA. THEN YOU CAN CIRCULATE IT. YES, YES. PLEASE SEND IT TO ME. OKAY. APPRECIATE Y'ALL DOING THAT. AND, AND A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT AGAIN TO JEFFREY FOR BEING THE LAST MINUTE CHAIR WHEN, UH, NEITHER OF THOSE CHAIR VICE CHAIR COULD MAKE IT. SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT JUMPING IN. NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. UM, ANY OTHER, JUST, YOU KNOW, REFLECTIONS OR THOUGHTS ANYBODY WANTS TO SHARE? I KNOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THREE SESSIONS IN NOW. SO, SO A LOT OF WHAT WE HAD TO SAY WE'VE SAID BEFORE. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, A LOT OF THE STUFF'S RECURRENT, AS FAR AS YOU CAN, BETTER COOPERATION WITH THE CITY AND ANY NONPROFITS OR ANY LOCAL COMMUNITY GROUPS. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST KIND OF BEEN THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE KEEP HEARING. SO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AND, YOU KNOW, THE MENTAL HEALTH THING IS, SEEMED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PREVAILING THAN THE LAST MEETING, BUT YEAH. I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE TWO BIGGEST THINGS I THINK WE KEEP HEARING AND I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY CONTINUE TO HEAR, UM, I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ALREADY HAD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WEDNESDAY. UM, I WISH I HAD KNOW NOTES IN FRONT OF ME, UM, THERE SOMEWHERE ELSE. UM, BUT I GUESS I WOULD JUST REITERATE THAT, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE DISCUSSION OF COLLEGE STUDENTS, UM, LIVING IN THESE APARTMENT COMPLEX, I THINK IS GOING TO BE A REALLY SERIOUS THING BECAUSE I'M LIKE WE LEARNED YESTERDAY, THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTY MANAGERS WHO THEY'RE NOT FROM TEXAS, THEY DON'T LIVE IN TEXAS. UM, THEY'RE NOT ONSITE. UM, AND THAT'S TRUE FOR NOT JUST THE APARTMENTS IN WEST CAMPUS, BUT THERE ARE MANY, YOU KNOW, HERE ON RIVERSIDE OR THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT COOPERATION FROM THEM. UM, AND THEY'RE NOT WORKING WITH THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT THEIR RESIDENTS ARE SAFE. UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I LIVE AT UNIVERSITY OF STATES HERE IN RIVERSIDE AND, UM, OUR PROPERTY MANAGERS DIDN'T, I FEEL LIKE DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF COMMUNICATING WITH US ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AND, UH, WHAT RESOURCES WERE AVAILABLE. UM, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S JUST BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A WAY TO REACH OUT TO US OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY PROBABLY SHOULD TAKE A BIT MORE SERIOUSLY. UM, ESPECIALLY AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD MORE PROPERTIES, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE, UM, GOOD WEATHER PLANS IN PLACE AND LIKE, UH, PROPERTIES NEED TO HAVE THOSE BE READY TO EXECUTE THOSE. UM, ON A MOMENT'S NOTICE, I THINK THAT, UH, FRANCIS AKUNA, HE SENT US HIS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE RESILIENCE, UH, AND I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THEM AND I THINK PART OF WHAT HE RECOMMENDED WAS, UM, THAT I'M TRYING TO FIND IT. UM, LET'S SEE. SO, OH YEAH. SO HE WROTE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE RESILIENCY HUBS WITH STANDING ORDERS TO OPEN WITH COMMUNITIES SUCH AS SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, RECREATION, CENTERS, AND LIBRARIES. UM, IT'S, I THINK THE SAME THING SHOULD BE TRUE FOR PROPERTY MANAGERS AND PROPERTIES THAT THEY TO HAVE, UM, EMERGENCY STANDING ORDERS, UM, WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE ICE STORM. UM, I THINK THAT WE ACTUALLY CAN LEARN A LOT FROM THESE WEIRD WEATHER EVENTS THAT WE KEEP HAVING FOR THE PAST FOUR WEEKS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FLOODING THROUGHOUT TRAVIS COUNTY, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO SEE FLOODING AND WE START TO SEE SNOW. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE OUR TASK FORCE IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT. UM, GOING FORWARD IS THAT THERE ARE OTHER NATURAL DISASTERS THAT WE'RE NOT PREPARED. YEAH. THAT'S A GREAT POINT, JEFFREY. AND, AND YOU HAVE TO SAY, WE'VE GOT TO HOLD PROPERTY MANAGERS ACCOUNTABLE, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE HERE LOCALLY OR WE'RE ACROSS THE STATE. OKAY. ANY OTHER, UM, JUST REFLECTIONS THOUGHTS. OKAY. UM, ONE TOPIC SERITA ASKED ME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SURFACE AGAIN TODAY WAS JUST GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE EVENT. I KNOW THE CITY CONTINUES TO DO THAT. PATRICIA, THANK YOU FOR, FOR DOING THE QUICK, UM, YOU KNOW, MANEUVERS TO GET THE JUNE 2ND MEETING ON THE CALENDAR AND GET THAT ADVERTISED ON. WE ENDED UP, YOU KNOW, THE GOOD TURNOUT ON TIME TO READ THE TESTIMONY. SO [00:10:01] THAT WORKED OUT WELL. AND I THINK THE DAYTIME HOUR, YOU KNOW, HELPED US GET ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER IN THE LOOP. SO THAT WAS, UM, MUCH APPRECIATED. I THINK WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH A COUPLE OF LISTENING SESSIONS LEFT IN THE RUNWAY HERE, THAT WE GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE TO SHOW UP AND, OR TO SUBMIT WRITTEN TESTIMONY. SO IF EVERYONE CAN CONTINUE TO USE THEIR NETWORKS TO PUSH THIS OUT, UM, KEEP REDISTRIBUTING IT TO YOUR COMMISSIONS. I KNOW IT STARTS TO GET REDUNDANT AFTER A WHILE, BUT YOU KNOW, A LOT OF YOU NOW ARE HAVING YOUR JUNE MEETINGS. SO IF YOU CAN HAVE THIS ON YOUR AGENDA FOR THE JUNE MEETING, SHARE WHAT YOU'RE HEARING AND ASK ALL OF YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO BE GETTING THE WORD OUT TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT THE UPCOMING LISTENING SESSIONS. I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY HELP. AND, UM, I GUESS WE'VE GOT THE FINAL FLIER WAS THE RECONCILIATION OF THE CITY FLYER AND THE GEOFFREY FLYER, UM, COMPLETED. UH, I'M PRETTY SURE AT THAT POINT. UM, PATRICIA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE MORE TO SAY ON THAT. I'M SORRY. I'M TRYING TO HEAR YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. WE'RE TRYING TO TURN UP THE AUDIO HERE ON THIS SIDE. I THINK JEFFREY, YOU SAID SOMETHING TO ME. OH YES. SO, UM, I THINK WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE RECONCILIATION OF THE CITY FLYER AND THEN THE FLYERS THAT I MADE. UM, AND WE JUST, I THINK WE FINALIZED THOSE. UM, AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS MORE TO THAT. YEAH. THOSE ARE FINAL. SO I CAN SEND THOSE GRAPHICS OUT IF YOU WANT TO USE THOSE, UH, THROUGH YOUR NETWORKS. YEAH. IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND SEND THOSE OUT TO US AND THEN ALSO HAVE THEM SENT BACK TO THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST WITH ANOTHER REMINDER THAT FOLKS CAN USE THAT FLYER AND POST IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, OR JUST EMAIL IT OUT TO FOLKS. UM, ONE MORE PUSH, I THINK THAT WILL HELP ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR IDEAS JUST ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS AND GETTING THE WORD OUT. SO, UH, PRIOR TO OUR FIRST MEETING, IT WAS COVERED IN LOCAL NEWS THAT WE'VE ARE GOING TO BE HAVING TO LISTEN TO SESSIONS. UM, SO I THINK PRETTY MUCH ALL THE NEWS STATIONS THAT I'VE SEEN HAD, YOU KNOW, COVERED THE PRESS RELEASE. I WONDER IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN REAPPROACH, UH, TO HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, SAY, OKAY, WE'RE HAVING OUR LAST TWO LISTENING SESSIONS AND PUT, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT IN THE NEWS MEDIA SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AVAILABILITY FOR TWO MORE LISTENING SESSIONS AND, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THEY CAN, UH, RE YOU KNOW, PUT THAT BACK IN THE MEDIA. THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, YES. I CAN ASK OUR, UM, CORPORATE PIO TO SEND OUT THE INFORMATION. SORRY. YES. AND TO SEND OUT THE INFORMATION. UH, ADDITIONALLY, UM, I KNOW I, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO REACH OUT TO, UM, LIKE PLACES LIKE AUSTIN PETS ALIVE BECAUSE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE HEARD THAT PERSPECTIVE QUITE YET ABOUT HOW WE KEPT THE ANIMALS SAFE. UM, AND I'M STILL WORKING ON REACH OUT TO SOME FOLKS AND WE'VE GOT SOME NAMES FROM WEDNESDAY. UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT ALSO JUST BE ANOTHER APPROACH IS DIRECTLY REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE THAT WE THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM, UM, WHO WE JUST HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YET. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DELEGATE RIGHT NOW. UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, OR WE CAN JUST PUT A LIST TOGETHER OF SOME OTHER PLACES THAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM AND TRY AND JUST REACH OUT TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY, UM, WITH A DIRECT CALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE'LL LET THEM KNOW. YEAH. WE CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES RIGHT NOW AND BRAINSTORM ON THAT A BIT TOO. UM, JUST IF PEOPLE HAVE IDEAS ABOUT SPECIFIC ORGANIZATIONS, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT APA, BUT THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. YEAH. OH, GO AHEAD. OH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I, I WAS THINKING FAMILY ELDER CARE, I THINK BECAUSE I KNOW THEY GOT DEEPLY INVOLVED, UM, AGING, AS COOL AS THE OTHER NONPROFITS THAT GOT INVOLVED. AND THEN I LISTENED TO, I THINK IT'S 10001ST RESPONDERS. THEY GOT VERY ENGAGED AND I THINK THEY, THEY COULD GIVE US SOME GOOD INPUT AS WELL. WHAT INPUT HAVE WE RECEIVED? UM, IN TERMS OF THE WRITTEN TESTIMONIES, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY LOOK AT ANY OF THEM. YEAH, MOLLY, I THINK THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST CONTINUE TO REINFORCE SOME VERY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES THAT PEOPLE HAD AND, AND ARE CONTINUING ALONG THE THEMES OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD IN THE SPOKEN TESTIMONY AT THE MEETINGS. SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST LACKED ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES OR COULDN'T GET TO THINGS. I THINK SEVERAL FOLKS HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, THEY COULDN'T GET TO A SHELTER, BUT IF THEY COULD, IT WAS ONLY OPEN DURING THE DAY AND NOT OVERNIGHT. SO THEN THEY HAD, HE HAD TO FIND THEIR WAY BACK TO THEIR HOMES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T HAVE POWER OR WATER OR GIVE THEMSELVES TO ANOTHER PLACE THAT WOULD BE SAFE. UM, SO WE'VE HEARD SOME OF THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AND JUST SOME DIFFERENT VARIATIONS ON THOSE THEMES. I DON'T WANT TO BELITTLE ANY OF IT. UM, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO READ ALL OF WHEN THEY HAVE TIME. UM, JUST CAUSE IT'S, IT'S PRETTY COMPELLING. I WILL ALSO ADD, UM, I AM CONTINUING TO, UM, GO THROUGH THE [00:15:01] TWITTER FROM THAT TIME. UM, I'VE STARTED A DOCUMENT. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL WANT ME TO SHARE BEFORE I'M DONE WITH IT. UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME INTERESTING STUFF TO READ THERE. UM, CAUSE IT, IT GOES MORE TOWARDS, UM, THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF, I GUESS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNICATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO ALSO REPLY TO SOME OF THOSE TWEETS COULD POTENTIALLY BE SPEAKERS. UM, AND SO, UM, I WAS GOING TO DO SOME WORK TO TRY AND REACH OUT TO THEM. I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD SHARE, I'M TRYING TO DRAFT A RESOLUTION FOR THE COMMISSION ON SENIORS AND TO THE MORE INFORMATION I CAN HAVE THE BETTER SURE THING. YEAH. THANK YOU, JEFFREY. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. CAUSE I REMEMBER LOOKING AT SOCIAL MEDIA WHILE THE EVENTS WERE TAKING PLACE AND YOU COULD, I MEAN, IT'S, IT WAS KIND OF A DIFFERENT EVENT CAUSE YOU GOT TO SEE OR EXPERIENCE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT OTHER, YOUR NEIGHBORS WERE EXPERIENCING AT THE TIME. AND IT WAS KIND OF, UH, IT WAS KIND OF STRANGE BECAUSE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU WEREN'T GOING THROUGH THE SAME SITUATION, BUT YOU GOT TO SEE A LITTLE SNIPPET OF DIFFERENT OUTLETS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCES. AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA TO, TO RE YOU KNOW, GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CONTACT SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE. YEAH. AND IT MIGHT EVEN BE EASIER ON A WEBSITE LIKE FACEBOOK, UM, TWITTER, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BE KIND OF ANONYMOUS. UM, BUT FACEBOOK, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PROBABLY HAVE POSTED PICTURES, THEY POSTED LONG POSTS. AND SO THOSE BECOME, YOU KNOW, WRITTEN TESTIMONY THAT, UM, WE CAN USE. I THINK THE ONLY THING TO, YOU KNOW, TO CONSIDER IS THAT A LOT OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK IS, UM, UNDERSTANDABLY, YOU KNOW, CRITICAL OF THE CITY OR, YOU KNOW, OF, OF OTHERS WHO MAYBE COULD HAVE DONE CERTAIN THINGS AND DIDN'T DO THEM. BUT I ALSO HEARD TESTIMONY FROM FOLKS APPRECIATING WHAT CERTAIN CITY DEPARTMENTS HAD DONE. I THINK THERE WAS ONE, I REMEMBER IF THAT WAS THIS WEEK OR A PREVIOUS ONE WHERE SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT JUST THE, YOU KNOW, THE POSITIVE NATURE OF THE RESPONSE FROM AUSTIN ENERGY AND AUSTIN WATER, NOT JUST DURING THE EVENT, BUT AFTER, YOU KNOW, LIKE FORGIVING HIGH BILLS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR LOCAL FOLKS WERE TAKEN CARE OF. SO, UM, WE SHOULD MAKE SURE IN OUR REPORT THAT ALL POINTS OF VIEW ARE SHARED AND, AND INCLUDE THOSE AS WELL. I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE THERE WAS A, I THINK MORE THAN A, I THINK IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALSO CITIZENS THAT HIGHLIGHTED, UH, SOME OF THE CONSTABLES OFFICES, UH, DIFFERENT PRECINCTS THAT WORK FOR THE COUNTY THAT RE YOU KNOW, ASSISTING THE CITY RESIDENTS, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ENTITIES ARE OUT THERE HELPING PEOPLE AS BEST AS THEY COULD AND TRY TO FILL IN GAPS OR UNMET NEEDS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. YEP. YEP. WELL, I'VE BEEN STRUCK BY THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH FROM PEOPLE WITH YOUNG CHILDREN OR FROM CHILDCARE FACILITIES, BOTH OF WHICH I THINK WERE ESPECIALLY AT RISK DURING THIS. AND I'M TRYING TO, I DID, I DID REACH OUT, BUT I'M GOING TO REACH OUT AGAIN TO, UM, THE ORGANIZATIONS IN TOWN THAT, THAT DEAL WITH LIKE SUCCESS BY SIX AND SO ON, AND SEE IF WE CAN'T HEAR MORE FROM THOSE PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY THOSE PEOPLE IN EAST AUSTIN, I DON'T KNOW, SEEMS TO BE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD THOSE PERSPECTIVES. WE, AS MUCH AS I THINK WE SHOULD, THAT'S A GREAT POINT ALETHA. AND I THINK DOING THAT DIRECT OUTREACH, THE, YOU KNOW, AN EVENING, UM, MEETING MAKES IT HARD ON FOLKS TO THE, YOU KNOW, 5 30, 6 O'CLOCK IS THE WITCHING HOUR FOR PARENTS WITH SMALL KIDS, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE FED AND READY FOR BED AND ALL OF THAT. SO THAT COULD BE CHALLENGING. SOME OF THOSE FOLKS CAN HAVE SOME CRYING BABIES, THE WRITTEN TESTIMONY, AND ALSO TO SELL FOLKS WERE, WERE VERY FORGIVING OF ALL OF THAT AND JUST TOOK THEM ON WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND LET'S HEAR THEIR STORIES. UM, I DO KNOW THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME LIKE THE SAFE ALLIANCE, UM, THEY HAVE SHELTERS, FAMILY SHELTERS, AND THEN THOSE GOT FLOODED AND, AND DECIMATED BY THE STORM AS WELL. SO THEY WERE LITERALLY MOVING RESIDENTS AND THESE ARE FOLKS WHO'VE EXPERIENCED A GREAT DEAL OF TRAUMA ALREADY INDEPENDENT OF THE STORM, YOU KNOW, MOVING THEM FROM ONE SPACE TO ANOTHER, AS THEIR SHELTER INFRASTRUCTURE JUST FELL APART. UM, DURING THAT TIME. SO I KNOW EVEN THOSE THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD PROVIDE SERVICES THEMSELVES, HAD SO MANY CHALLENGES, UM, THE COMMUNITY REALLY RESPONDED. SO THAT WAS GREAT. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES AROUND THAT TOO WELL. YEAH. AND CHILDCARE FACILITIES HAVE ALREADY BEEN HIT VERY HARD BY THE PANDEMIC. AND I THINK THEIR PROBLEM WAS NOT SO MUCH THAT THEY WERE IN THE CELL IN THE SHOW, IN THE CENTER DURING THE STORM, ALTHOUGH SOME MAY HAVE BEEN, BUT THAT THEY HAD DAMAGE TO THEIR FACILITIES AND THEY'RE ALREADY VERY FRESH. SO, UM, I THINK THERE'S A NEED THERE FOR HELPING PEOPLE AND NOT JUST THEM, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE TO REPAIR SOME OF THE DAMAGES THAT CAME PARTICULARLY FROM BURSTING PIPES AND, AND WATER DAMAGE YEP. ON THE SAME NOTE. UM, AND IT MAY BE A LITTLE REDUNDANT, UM, BUT, UM, RESTAURANT [00:20:01] OWNERS, UM, AND PEOPLE WHO OPERATE THOSE RESTAURANTS, UM, WE OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF LOCAL HEROES. UM, BUT THERE MAY HAVE ALSO BEEN A LOT OF RESTAURANTS. WE DIDN'T MAKE IT OUT. UM, AND SO WE WILL WANT TO KNOW KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM, UM, AND WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS FOR THEM ON THE BACK END, SIMILAR TO, UM, THOSE FOLKS WHO UNFORTUNATELY HAD THEIR APARTMENTS, UM, CATHERINE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STORM, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF FOLLOW-UP FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RELIEF THERE WAS FOR THEM AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND SO, UM, I FEEL LIKE THAT ALSO HAS TO DO WITH THE PUBLIC RESPONSE TO THE STORM. OKAY. SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE COVERED THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEBRIEF PART, UM, GETTING THE WORD OUT, CONTINUING TO DO SOME OUTREACH TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OR CATEGORIES OF IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THEM OR YOUR, YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONS ARE, UM, TO INVITE THEM TO SPEAK OR TO SUBMIT TESTIMONY WANTS TO CARVE OUT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO START TALKING ABOUT PREPARING THE REPORT THAT'S DUE AT THE END OF JULY. UM, PATRICIA, THANK YOU FOR INFORMING ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE AN OPTION FOR A WRITTEN REPORT OF A MEETING WITH COUNSEL OR BOTH. UM, AND, AND WE'D ALL SIT NEED TO DETERMINE WHETHER THAT'S A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WITH COUNSEL JUST ON THIS SUBJECT OR WHETHER WE GET AGENDA TIME AT A STANDING COUNCIL MEETINGS. SO JUST WANTED TO GET SOME THOUGHTS FROM THE TASK FORCE MEMBERS HERE ON WHAT Y'ALL THINK IS THE PREFERRED APPROACH, UH, WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WRITTEN IN PERSON OR SOME COMBINATION OF THAT. I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY, UM, DO BOTH, UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS A SERIES AND OTHER EVENTS THAT HAVE MERITS US, UM, BOTH SPEAKING WITH THEM AND HAVING SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO REFER BACK TO, UM, CAUSE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE LAST NATURAL DISASTER THAT WE HAVE COMING. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH TO LEARN FROM THIS MOMENT. AND SO, UM, IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR A COUNSELOR TO HAVE THEM FOR THE RECORD, BUT ALSO TO HEAR IT DIRECTLY FROM US, SEE A LOT OF NODDING HEADS. UM, SO THAT LOOKS LIKE A SCENT. UM, I I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS TOO. I AGREE ON, ON BOTH. AND ALSO JUST THINKING THAT TO, TO CRAM THIS ON AN ALREADY FULL CITY COUNCIL AGENDA MAY NOT GET IT, THE ATTENTION THAT WARRANTS AND THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD REQUEST A SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS SO THAT WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE FOCUSED AND NOT, UM, DEPLETED OF THEIR ENERGY WITH ALL THE OTHER THINGS THEY'RE DEALING WITH. SO, BUT YOU'RE SAYING, UM, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS FOR THAT? SO, UM, THE REPORT IS DUE BY THE END OF JULY, I WOULD HAVE TO SEE WITH THE AGENDA OFFICE, WHAT, UM, AVAILABILITY WE HAVE EITHER ON IT, YOU'RE CUTTING IN AND OUT. SO WE'RE ONLY HEARING A FEW WORDS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE AND THEY'RE NOT VERY LOUD. OKAY. SO I WILL HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE AGENDA OFFICE ON WHAT DATES ARE AVAILABLE AND ALSO, UM, TAKEN WITH THE MAYOR IN ORDER TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A SPECIAL CALLED TOGETHER. OKAY. WHAT DOES A SPECIAL CALL MEETING HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME OF OUR TASK FORCE? OR COULD IT POTENTIALLY COME AFTER IT'S LIFE IS OVER? SO LIKE IN AUGUST OR SOMETHING, IT'S WHEN, WHENEVER THE REPORT IS FINAL AND YOUR PRESENTATION IS READY TO GO. SO, UM, I'LL HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT. WE WOULD WANT TO GET THEM THE REPORT PRIOR TO MEETING WITH THEM JUST SO THEY CAN DIGEST IT SOME AND UH, YEAH. SO I'LL HAVE TO CHECK ON DATES. I THINK IT HAS TO BE IN AUGUST CAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES A BREAK AND IN PARTS OF JULY, I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT'S THE WHOLE MONTH OR JUST PART OF IT, BUT, AND BESIDES WE WANT TO HAVE THE REPORT COMPLETE BEFORE WE WANT TO PRESENT ANYTHING. PATRICIA, I THINK YOU'D BE EXCITED. OH, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S WHEN YOU HAVE THE REPORT COMPLETE SO I CAN, YEAH. SO IF YOU'VE FINISHED THE REPORT, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE OUR DEBRIEF ON THE 25TH, THEN YOU FINISHED THE REPORT THE FOLLOWING WEEK. IT WOULD, AND THAT'S IN JUNE. I COULD SEE IF THERE'S SOME TIME IN JULY, THEY DO BREAK FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT'S THEIR AVAILABILITY IS, AND IT MAY, IT MAY HAVE TO BE ON A WORK SESSION SO THAT WE JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH, WITH WHAT'S AVAILABLE. OKAY. PATRICIA, YOU'RE STILL CUTTING OUT. SO I'M NOT SURE WE CAUGHT ALL OF THAT, BUT, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S PRACTICAL FOR US TO TURN AROUND THE REPORT IN A WEEK OR SO. I I'M JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS DEPENDENT UPON WHEN YOU'VE FINISHED THE REPORT. SO THAT'S WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON AUDIO ALSO. SO SORRY TO HEAR ME BLARING IN AND OUT. UM, YEAH. SO WHAT I CAN DO, I CAN REACH OUT TO THE AGENDA [00:25:01] OFFICE AND, UH, COUNSEL AND SEE WHAT THEIR AVAILABILITY WILL BE. I CAN REPORT BACK. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GREAT. UM, SO WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE AVAILABILITY IS. I THINK WE PROBABLY WANT TO TAKE AS MUCH TIME IN JULY AS WE CAN TO DEVELOP IT AND REVIEW THE REPORT. WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED IT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF DRAFTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MESSY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL GET TO FINAL EDITING AND REVIEW. SO I, I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'LL PRODUCE A REPORT, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO THAT JULY 30TH DEADLINE. AND THEN I'LL SEE IF WE CAN HAVE AN IN-PERSON MEETING AT SOME POINT AFTER THAT TO DISCUSS SOUND GOOD TO EVERYBODY. AGAIN, I SEE NODDING HEADS, ALL RIGHT. THUMBS UPS, ALL OF THAT. SO WE, I, I GUESS WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE A MOTION OR ANYTHING. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO VOTE ON, BUT, UM, I SEE CONSENSUS THAT WE WILL AIM FOR REPORT WRITTEN REPORT, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF JULY AND THEN IN PERSON MEETING AFTER THAT POINT. UM, AND PATRICIA SHARED WITH ME A LINK TO A SAMPLE REPORT THAT WAS DONE BY ANOTHER COMMISSION. UM, SO PATRICIA, IF YOU WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH THE WHOLE GROUP, I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR US TO SEE EXAMPLES OF HOW OTHERS HAVE, UM, DONE THIS BEFORE US, JUST SO WE GET A SENSE OF THE LEVEL OF DETAIL OR, OR NOT. UM, WE'RE SITTING ON A LOT NOW, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE WRITTEN TESTIMONY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE SIX RECORDED MEETINGS, SO WE, WE JUST NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF HOW TO KEEP IT SUCCINCT, UM, FOR THE AUDIENCE. OKAY. UH, ANY THOUGHTS ON JUST THE, YOU KNOW, GETTING TO THAT POINT? IT FEELS LIKE IT'S A WAYS AWAY CAUSE IT'S STILL EARLY JUNE, BUT IT'S GONNA COME PRETTY QUICK. UM, SO ANY THOUGHTS JUST ON, YOU KNOW, HOW WE MASH UP ALL OF THE INPUT? I KNOW JEFFREY, YOU'VE GOT COPIOUS NOTES, OTHERS ARE TAKING NOTES, UM, OR ARE THERE SOME GOOD, UH, ORGANIZERS AND WRITERS AMONG US THAT HAVE SOME IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO SYNTHESIZE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, UM, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, MAYBE WE JUST AT, AT THE, AT THIS STAGE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF US CAN BREAK INTO A WORKING GROUP, UM, AND JUST KIND OF START LOOKING AT WHAT WE DO HAVE AND, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZING IT, LIKE YOU SAID. UM, SO I MEAN, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE DOMESTIC. I I'D BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH SOMEBODY ON THIS IT'S AS A RECOVERING ACADEMIC, I'VE WRITTEN A LOT OF REPORTS, BUT I DO HAVE, I DO KNOW HOW TO KEEP THEM SIMPLE. ALL RIGHT. SO I HEAR, UH, AT LEAST TWO VOLUNTEERS HERE AT AWHILE, IT WAS JEFFREY'S IDEA DIFFERENT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE VOLUNTEERING OR, UM, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. AND THEN I JUST SAW CATHERINE RAISED THEIR HAND. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE WE SHOULD VOTE ON THAT. UM, AS A POINT OF ORDER, JUST TO COMMISSION A WORKING GROUP OUT OF THE TASK FORCE. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO FORM A WORKING GROUP TO START TO DEVELOP THEIR REPORT AND SYNTHESIZE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR. AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SALLY SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. AND THAT WE HAVE, UM, SO YOU HAVE CLEMONS HOUSTON AND GONZALEZ AS THE INITIAL NUMBER. SO THAT WORKING GROUP, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO JUMP IN? WE HAVE ROOM BEFORE WE HIT FORUM. SO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE COULD MEET IN PERSON TO DO THIS AT SOME POINT? I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHER PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THAT, BUT, UM, IT WOULD, IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER. I THINK AT SOME POINT, IF WE COULD JUST HAVE A WORKING SESSION, I DON'T WANT TO DO IT. IF ANYBODY FEELS IN A LITTLE CONCERNED OR, UM, YOU KNOW, HESITANT ABOUT IT, I AM FULLY VACCINATED. SO, UM, I HAVE, I HAVE NO RESERVATION CATHERINE AND THUMBS UP. ALL RIGHT. IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL CAN COORDINATE THAT. AND THEN PATRICIA, IF YOU CAN ALSO, UM, WHEN YOU SEND OUT THE NOTES, JUST LET THE ABSENT COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT WE CAN TAKE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO PEOPLE ON THAT WORKING GROUP, UM, WITHOUT HITTING QUORUM. SO IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO PUT THEIR WRITING SKILLS TO WORK, YOU COULD USE THE HELP SURE THING. ALL RIGHT. REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL DOING THAT AGAIN. I THINK THE MORE WE CAN SYNTHESIZE AND GET OUT AHEAD OF THIS, THE EASIER IT WILL BE WHEN WE GET TO COME BACK TOGETHER. UM, THAT MAKES ME THINK ABOUT PROBABLY NEEDING TO GET A COUPLE MORE MEETINGS ON THE CALENDAR PATRICIA IN JULY. SO I THINK WE'RE JUST SCHEDULED THROUGH THE END OF JUNE WITH OUR LISTENING SESSIONS AND DEBRIEFS, BUT WE PROBABLY NEED A MORE STANDING MEETINGS IN JULY TO SPECIFICALLY WORK ON THE REPORT AND, AND GET FEEDBACK ON THAT. SO I WILL SET UP A DOODLE POLL BASED ON AVAILABILITY OF ROOMS HERE. UM, I'LL PROBABLY DO THAT NEXT WEEK, EARLY NEXT WEEK. [00:30:01] AND, UM, JUST LET ME KNOW THE LENGTH OF TIME. ARE YOU WANTING LIKE ONE HOUR MEETING OR A COUPLE HOURS FOR WORK LOOKS TO HAVE A FEELING ABOUT THAT? I MEAN, WE COULD STICK WITH THIS FRIDAY TIME. I KNOW THAT'S NOT GREAT FOR CERRITOS, SO WE MIGHT WANT TO ADJUST THAT, BUT, UM, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY IF THAT WORKS FOR PEOPLE, PATRICIA, MAYBE, UM, IF YOU COULD CHECK IN WITH SERITA, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE MEETING IS AT 10 OR IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT STARTS EARLIER AND THAT JUST TAKES UP HER WHOLE MORNING, BUT MAYBE IF WE CAN GET A NINE O'CLOCK, UM, THAT COULD WORK FOR HER, I'LL DO THAT. OKAY. SO LET'S, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN TRY TO FIND, UH, YOU KNOW, TO OUR TRENDS ON FRIDAYS THAT WE CAN AT LEAST GET SOME OF HER TIME AND THE MAJORITY OF OTHER COMMISSIONERS, AND THEN A FRIDAYS ARE NOT AN OPTION, LET US KNOW. AND WE'LL, UM, WE'LL PUT SOME OTHER DATES OUT THERE AND YOU'RE WANTING, YOU KNOW, THINGS GET TRICKIER IN JULY WITH PEOPLE STARTING TO HANDLE IT. YOU'RE WANTING THESE TO BE IN PERSON. CORRECT. OKAY. MEETING ON FRIDAYS IN JULY, IT PUTS. OKAY. UM, AND I WOULD SAY, UH, PROBABLY WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS, UM, NOT JULY 2ND, CAUSE THAT'S A HOLIDAY WEEK. UM, SO MAYBE THE NINTH AND THE 23RD SOUND GOOD FOR FOLKS. I'M GOING TO BE, I'M GOING TO BE ON VACATION, BUT SORT OF IN TOUCH AFTER JULY 14, I'M GOING TO BE IN MINNESOTA SO I COULD POSSIBLY PARTICIPATE LONG DISTANCE, BUT THAT'S MY PLAN TOO. I'M ON THE ROAD FROM JULY 6TH TO THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER, BUT I'M ASSUMING I CAN CALL IN. YEAH. BUT SO THE MORE WE CAN GET DONE UPFRONT THE BETTER I THINK. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. WE'LL, UM, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE VIRTUAL OPTIONS. EVEN IF FOLKS, YOU KNOW, IF SOME FOLKS CAN MEET FACE TO FACE AND THEN WE HAVE THE REST IN VIRTUALLY WE'LL DO THAT. UM, SO WE GET THE WORK DONE. SO, SO LET'S TENTATIVELY AIM FOR MORNINGS OF THE NINTH AND 23RD OF JULY. AND THEN PATRICIA, JUST LET US KNOW IF THAT'S NOT AN OPTION. WE'LL LOOK FOR OTHER DATES FOR TIMES. HOPEFULLY THAT KEEPS US ON TRACK. AND THEN THE WORKING GROUP, I GUESS WE'LL, WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT TO YOU ALL TO COORDINATE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CONVENING PROBABLY FOR OUR NEXT DEBRIEF AND THAT WAY, IF YOU'VE GOT ANYTHING TO SHARE, UM, DO THAT, I GUESS THAT'S ON THE 25TH, RIGHT? OKAY. YOU HAVE ONE BEFORE THAT I HAVE TOO MANY MEETINGS. OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ONE ON THE 18TH, SO WE HAVE A DEBRIEF ON THE 18TH AND ON THE 25TH. UM, SO WE'LL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO CHECK DOWN AS WELL. AND FOR THOSE MEETINGS, THOSE DEBRIEF MEETINGS, DO YOU WANT THE SAME AGENDA ITEMS THAT WERE ON THIS AGENDA OR ARE YOU WANTING ME TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL AGENDA ITEMS? LET'S HAVE A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM FOR, UH, PREPARATION OF THE REPORT. SO WE'VE GOT THE ONE NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT COVERS JUST THIS GENERAL DEBRIEF OF THE PUBLIC SESSIONS. UM, LET'S INCLUDE A LINE ITEM FOR ALL OF OUR SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS TO CHECK IN ON THE REPORT. SO THAT WE'RE ON. AWESOME FOR THAT. WE'LL DO, ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, AGENDA ITEMS THAT FOLKS WANT TO INCLUDE? CAN I GET TWO SPONSORS NOW? UM, FOR THE, THAT ITEM FOR THE PREPARATION OF THE REPORT, IT'S ALL SPONSOR AND JEFF CLEMENS ACTUALLY SPONSORS. PERFECT. THANK YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT CHANGING UP THE FORMAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING IS WORKING, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, OF THE TIME SLOTS FOR PEOPLE AND, YOU KNOW, ADEQUATE SPACE FOR LISTENING TO FOLKS, UM, KIND OF GIVING EVERYBODY EQUAL TIME AND HAVING THAT TIME TO READ IN THE TESTIMONY. SO ANY CHANGES TO THAT, OR WE JUST KEEP DOING WHAT'S WORKING. I SEE NODDING HEADS AGAIN. SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. ALL RIGHT. UH, ANYTHING ELSE FOR DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. UM, ANOTHER EFFICIENT MEETING ON THE BOOKS, WE CAN OFFICIALLY ADJOURN 10 41. THANK YOU EVERYONE. AND WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE NEXT SESSION. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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