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AND I'M GOING TO NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER IT'S 6:00 PM ON TUESDAY, JUNE 15TH, 2021.
AND I'M GOING TO TAKE RULES, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER, UH, KOSTA AND HIS CAT.
UH, RAMIREZ COMMISSIONER BRAY LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE NOT HERE YET.
COMMISSIONER DINKLER PRESENT, UH, COMMISSIONER KING HERE.
YEAH, COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON HERE.
AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE COMMISSIONER THERE'S COMMISSIONER BRAY.
UM, COMMISSIONER WOODY HAS JOINED US YET AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME COMMISSIONER GREENBERG.
I, AND DO YOU WANT TO, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF BRIEFLY? SURE.
UM, I HAD PREVIOUSLY SERVED ON THIS COMMISSION, I GUESS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE.
AND NOW I'M BACK REPRESENTING DISTRICT SIX AND I DON'T LIVE IN EITHER OF THOSE DISTRICTS.
UM, SO, UH, THE FIRST ITEM IN THE, UH, ON THE AGENDA IS TO REVIEW, UH,
[Consent Agenda]
THE AGENDA AND VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.I WILL READ EACH OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS AND IDENTIFY THOSE THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF FOR CONSENT APPROVAL AND INCLUDE POSTPONEMENTS AND NON-DISCUSSION ITEMS. SO, FIRST IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
[A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS THEY WANT TO MAKE ON THE MINUTES? NO.SO WE'LL GO WITH YOU B ONE IT'S CASEY 14, 20 21 0 0 8 9 DREW LANE, RESIDENTIAL AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SEEKING A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JULY 20TH.
B TWO IS UP FOR DISCUSSION IT'S C 14 20 21 0 0 3.
SONATO B3 IS C 14 20 20 0 1 4 6 11 7 0 5 RESEARCH BOULEVARD.
AND THE STAFF IS SEEKING POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JULY 6TH, BEFORE, UM, IS FOR CONSENT C 14 20 21 0 0 5 4 AT 11 700 NORTH
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A LIST OF CONSENT ITEMS, UH, OR I'M SORRY, IT'S THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, UH, SERVICES THAT WILL BE PROHIBITED AND COMMISSIONER DINKLER READ IN US.
UM, THESE ADDITIONAL USES WERE AGREED TO BY THE APPLICANT, UH, TO BE INCLUDED AS PROHIBITED USES IN THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.
THEY INCLUDE ALTERNATE FINANCIAL SERVICES, BUSINESS, TRADE SCHOOL, UH, BUSINESS SUPPORT SERVICES DERIVE DRIVE THROUGH DROP OFF RECYCLING, EXTERMINATING SERVICES, HOTEL, MOTEL OFFSITE, ACCESSORY PARKING PEDICAB STORAGE AND DISPATCH PET SERVICES, PRINTING AND PUBLISHING AND RESTAURANT GENERAL.
OKAY, SO THOSE ARE THE PROPOSED PROHIBITED USES FOR THAT CASE.
UM, MOVING ON TO B FIVE IT'S C 14 20 21 0 0 3 2 SHELTON ROAD, AND THAT'S ON CONSENT.
AND THEN WE HAVE B6 RESEARCH DIVISION, C H J 20 18 0 1 9 5 0.00, A RE SUBDIVISION OF LOT 10 AND CHARO ESTATES.
SO ITEMS THE, THE MINUTES AND THEN ITEMS B ONE AND THEN B THREE THROUGH B SIX OR ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE, UM, PROHIBITED USES AS DESCRIBED FOR BEFORE MR. GREENBERG.
UM, THERE WERE ADDITIONAL, OH, WAIT, AM I MUTED? NO, I CAN HEAR YOU.
UM, THERE WERE ADDITIONAL PROHIBITED USES, I THINK, IN THE BACKUP THOSE, SO WHAT YOU READ IS AN ADDITION TO WHAT IS, OKAY.
I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC HEARING.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, BUT WE MAY NEED A SECOND.
COMMISSIONER SMITH, THE SECOND THING, AND THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
SO WE ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO B
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PRESENTATION FROM THE STAFF.MS. ROSE, ARE YOU, DID HE THINK COMMISSIONERS? YEAH.
IT TAKES A MOMENT TO HIT STAR SIX AND IT FELT OPERATE FOR YOU.
THIS IS SHERRY FOR LATEST WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UM, HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
I'M TRYING TO PULL UP MY AGENDA QUICKLY.
I'M HAVING ISSUES JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE.
THIS IS CASEY 14 20 21 0 0 0 3, SUN AUTO.
THIS IS LOCATED AT 26, 10 AND A HALF SOUTH LAKE GLEN BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS LR ZONING TO GR ZONING.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS GR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING.
THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS UNDEVELOPED AND MODERATELY VEGETATED.
THERE IS FLOODPLAIN ALONG THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE TRACK BESIDE IS LOCATED TO THE NORTHWEST OF LIFELINE MALL ON SOUTHWEST LAWN BOULEVARD.
THE FRONT PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE CITY AND PASTES ACCESS TO SOUTH LAKE WARREN BOULEVARD.
THE REAR PORTION OF THIS TRACK OF LAND IS WITHIN THE CITY OF CEDAR PARKS JURISDICTION AND HAS ACCESS TO OFF WEST TO OFF OF WEST RIVIERA CIRCLE OR RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR STREET.
THERE IS UNDEVELOPED LAND AND A SINGLE FAMILY.
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN NORTH TO THE EAST OF THIS SITE ALONG LAKELINE BOULEVARD, THERE'S FLOODPLAIN AREA AND A MULTIFAMILY USE TO THE WEST.
THERE IS AN UNDEVELOPED LOT WITHIN CITY OF THEATER PARK.
THE PARCEL TO THE SOUTH ACROSS SOUTHWEST LINE BOULEVARD ZONE P IS PARKLAND AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL SETTING FOR THIS TRACT OF LAND THAT THEY MAY DEVELOP AUTOMOTIVE USES ON THE PROPERTY.
THE STAFF RECOMMENDS GR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT DUNNING.
THE PROPERTY MEETS THE PURPOSE STATEMENT OF THE DISTRICT AS IT IS LOCATED ON AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY AND WILL PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY DECIDE ENTER CONSIDERATION HAS CONSTRAINTS AS ONLY OF COURSE IN OF THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPABLE BECAUSE THE FLOOD PLAIN, THE APPLICANT HAS A PAST PROPOSED AN OFFICE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE PORTION OF THIS TRACT OF LAND ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN CEDAR PARK TO THE NORTH, WHICH WILL PROVIDE A TRANSITION FOR THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL USES FOR THIS TRACT OF LAND ALONG THE LAKE CATHOLIC GLEN BOULEVARD, THE GRS, ANY DISTRICT WILL BRIT THE APPLICANT TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH OFFICE CIVICS OR COMMERCIAL USES TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST AND THE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH.
BUT YOUR ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR RUNNING AND ARTURO ROADWAY ACROSS FROM A PUBLIC PARK AND THE LAKELINE MALL DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED 0.7, FIVE MILES FROM THE LAKE LINE STATION REGIONAL CENTER AS IDENTIFIED IN THE IMAGINE AUSTIN CONFERENCE OF PLAN.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, APPLICANT IF MISS BRASH IS ON THE LINE.
MS. BRUSH, IF YOU'LL SELECT STAR SIX, THIS IS JENNY.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IS MY SLIDE PRESENTATION UP IN DECEIT? YES.
A QUICK HISTORY OF THE TRACK IS THAT THE WOLF FAMILY HAS OWNED IT SINCE 1917.
THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE TOM WOLF FAMILY STILL OWNS THE TRACK.
SO YOU SHOULD BE IN A LAND PLAN.
I AN AERIAL LOOKING SLIDE NOW, UM, THE BLUE LINE SEPARATES THE CITY FROM AUSTIN, FROM THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK TO SET ANY LIMIT LINES.
THE BLUE TRACK IS THE SUBJECT TRACK THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.
THIS SLIDE IS SHOWING THE ZONING.
THE PORTION TO THE, TO THE LEFT OF THE SUBJECT TRACK IS GR IN THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK.
THEN WE HAVE COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY ZONING, PUB
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PARK, COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY ZONING ACROSS THE STREET.AND THEN WE HAVE, OF COURSE THE MULTIFAMILY.
SO BEING LOCATED ON A MAJOR ARTERIAL WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONINGS OF GR UH, COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY, UH, WE FEEL LIKE THAT THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE TRACK, UH, FOR THE ZONING.
THE PORTIONS OF THE NORTH OF THIS TRACK HAS THE SAME OWNER AND IS IN THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK.
SO THE NORTH OF IT IS SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPED RESIDENTIAL.
WE HELD MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN CEDAR PARK TO REACH AN AGREEMENT, HAVING TO DO WITH THE LOCAL OFFICE THAT WE WANT TO BUILD BETWEEN US AND THE COMMERCIAL TRACK.
UH, WE HAVE OFFERED IN, ARE WORKING ON A TB PUD SO THAT WE MOVE THE EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL, 30 FEET INTO THE LAND IN CEDAR PARK TO GIVE A LARGER BUFFER TO THE BACKYARDS OF THE NEIGHBORS AND ALSO PRESERVE THE TREES ARE ALL ALONG WITH INSULIN.
AND IT'S CERTAINLY LONG SINCE LINE AND WE'RE ADDING OTHER RESTRICTIONS ALSO LIKE, LIKE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THE PORTION THAT'S IN CEDAR PARK IS ONLY 200 FEET WIDE.
THIS IS WHY HIS WALKED IN DEVELOPED IS SINGLE FAMILY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT IN A ROAD, UH, AND HOUSES, BOTH I SPOKE TO AND IT'S ALSO RIGHT NEXT TO LIKE ONE BOULEVARD AND HE WANTS A HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO LIKE ON BOULEVARD.
YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT A LETTER RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS FROM A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TAYLOR MORRISON.
WE SHOWED THE CO THE TRACK IN CEDAR PARK, WHICH IS CURRENTLY SOME SINGLE FAMILY TO MANY DIFFERENT BUILDERS.
AND THIS WAS THE RESPONSE THAT WE GOT, THAT THE PROPERTY'S TOO NARROW AND THE CALL FOR SINGLE LOAD OF STREET.
THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN DOING SINGLE FAMILY COLUMBIA REGIME THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE RESTRICTING CONFIGURATION.
UH, SO WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE TO REZONE THIS TRACK AND WE'RE WORKING ON IT, THE CEDAR PARK TRACK AND THE FINAL SLIDE, ALTHOUGH THE REQUESTS TODAY IS FAR ZONING AND NOT FIGHT DEVELOPMENT.
WE INCLUDED A SKETCH OF A POSSIBILITY OF HOW A BUILDING COULD FIT ON THIS SITE.
THE DRIVEWAY ACCESS LIKE ON BOULEVARD, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THIS DRAWING EXISTS TODAY.
IT WAS BUILT 20 YEARS AGO AND IT'S AT A MEDIAN BREAK, WHICH IS ALREADY IN PLACE.
THE DRIVEWAY TURNS IMMEDIATELY LEFT AND OUT OF A WATER QUALITY TRANSITION SHOT ZONE THAT YOU CAN SEE IS A DOTTED A DASHED LINE AT THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY, BEFORE IT STARTS TO CIRCLE AROUND THE TRACK THAT THE, UH, PROJECT, THIS LAND, UH, WHERE THE ACCESS WAS, WAS ORIGINALLY NOT PART OF THE WATER QUALITY TRANSITIONS ZONE, BUT THE CITY CHANGED THEIR RULES AND THEY DOUBLED THE WIDTH OF THE TRANSITION ZONE, WHICH THEN ENCROACHED UPON THE ACCESS, UH, OUR EXISTING ACCESS.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WATER QUALITY TRANSITIONS ZONES, I DO HAVE AN ENGINEER THAT'S GOING TO BE GETTING ON SPEAK BECAUSE THERE'S ONE THAT'S COMING FROM THE SOUTH ACROSS THE LAKE LINE ROAD.
UM, AND HE WILL SPEAK ON THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME TIME TO SPEAK TO YOU.
UH, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SUCCESSFULLY BUILDING THIS PROJECT.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE SIGNED UP NOW, HELLO, WILBURN OUT HERE.
I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND I WAS HIRED AS A CONSULTANT FROM, UH, SUNSTATE AUTO TO MAKE IT LOOK AT THE, UH, CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES.
THAT'S NOT A WATERFALL TRANSITION ZONES.
THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT WATER, UH, CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONES THAT STRADDLE THIS SITE.
WE WERE AT THE CONFLUENCE OF AN INTERMEDIATE WATERWAY AND ALSO A MAJOR WATERWAY.
THE INTERMEDIATE WATERWAY, UM, ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF LAKE LINE HAS 150 FOOT OFFSETS CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.
AND THAT BUFFER IS INTENDED TO TREAT WATER AT THE CLOSE BACK TO THE CENTER LINE OF THE CREEK, FOR WHICH THE BUFFER IS APPLIED IN THIS CASE, UM, WATER THAT FALLS IN THAT CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE ON OUR SITE DOES NOT MAKE IT BACK TO THE INTERMEDIATE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LAKE LINE, IN THE BUFFER FOR WHICH IT WAS INTENDED.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE A MAJOR SETBACK FRONT.
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AS JENNY MENTIONED GO, AND IT ENCOMPASSES THE DRIVEWAY THAT WAS BUILT 20 YEARS AGO.SO THE APP TODAY IS IF WE COULD RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT THE WATER THAT FALLS IN THE BUFFER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LAKE LINE, DOESN'T MAKE IT BACK TO THE CENTER LINE OF THE CHANNEL.
SO NOT WATER QUALITY ZONE IS NOT IN EFFECT AS EFFECTIVELY NOT DOING ANYTHING.
I GUESS WE WOULD ARGUE FOR APP THAT WE WOULD BE ASKED TO TAKE ACCESS FROM THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY AND WORK WITH STAFF TO AVERAGE THAT BUFFER DOWN TO, I GUESS, RELEASE THE DRIVEWAY AND EXPAND THEIR CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.
SO THE NORTH STILL WITHIN THE CITY OF PURVIEW, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, I DO HAVE ONE REGISTERED IN OPPOSITION.
UM, IS MR. NACE SET ON THE LINE? I'M SORRY IF I'M PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME WRONG, I GUESS.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, PLEASE PROCEED.
SO MY NAME IS JANE NINAS CENTER, 1000 SUBURBIA CIRCLE IN CEDAR PARK, TEXAS WITH MY WIFE AND A TWO YEAR OLD SON.
UH, I HAVE KNOWLEDGE RON, A CEDAR PARK RESIDENT, AND THEREFORE NOT TECHNICALLY A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
I'M ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO'D BE MOST AFFECTED BY THIS CHANGE AS MY HOME BACKS UP DIRECTLY TO THIS PARCEL OF LAND IN QUESTION, UM, I'M OPPOSED TO THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE, MUCH OF WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY SPECIFIC TO THE AUTO REPAIR SHOP AS THAT'S THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, BUT PLEASE CONSIDER THAT ANY OF MY POINTS ALSO APPLIED TO THIS ZONING CHANGE IN GENERAL.
UH, I ESSENTIALLY HAVE THREE MAIN POINTS THAT THE TERM, THE TERM ZONING IS FAIR AND APPROPRIATE FOR BOTH THE APPLICANT AND THE STAFF.
THE IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS SEVERAL POLICIES THAT ARE NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE.
AND THAT THERE'S AT LEAST ONE STUDY THAT IS DONE AT HOME.
PROXIMITY TO AUTO REPAIR SHOPS IS LINKED WITH AN INCREASED LIKELIHOOD FOR CHILDHOOD LEUKEMIA.
SO ELABORATING ON MY FIRST POINT THAT THE CURRENT ZONING IS STARING APPROPRIATE AS PARCEL OF LAND DISASTER VIEWED BY THE CITY OF BOSTON IN 2013, THE APPLICANT PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE OF SS DOMESTICS, THE GR, BUT WAS INSTEAD GRANTED THE ZONING OF LR, WHICH IS THE CURRENT ZONING AT THE TIME, THE APPLICANT AGREED THAT THE LR ZONING WAS APPROPRIATE.
AND I SUBMITTED A DOCUMENT BY THE WAY, WITH REFERENCES TO THESE AND LINKS TO THE DOCUMENTS.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT I'M NOT JUST LIKE PULLING STUFF OUT OF THIN AIR OR WHATEVER, BUT I ESSENTIALLY, SINCE 2013, I UNDERSTAND THAT AUSTIN HAS UNDERGONE MANY CHANGES, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THIS SPECIFIC SITE AND THE CHARACTERISTICS, NOTHING HAS CHANGED REALLY WHEN HE LOOKED AT BOTH OF THE DOCUMENTS AND THE WAY THAT THEY ARE DESCRIBED IN THE SURROUNDING LAND.
AND HE SAYS, EVERYTHING IS THE SAME, EXCEPT THAT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN 2013 IS NOW IN USE IN 2021.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, IS THAT, LIKE I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY IN 2015, THIS IS REVIEWED AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED THAT.
NOW WE WOULD LOOK AT IT AND SAY THAT, ACTUALLY, OKAY, WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE GENERAL USE.
ANOTHER ITEM OF NOTE IS THAT THERE'S AN ERROR IN THE 2020S ZONING REVIEW DOCUMENT.
THIS HASN'T BEEN STATED VERBALLY OUT LOUD YET, BUT BASICALLY IT'S STATED THAT IN THE CEDAR PARK PORTION OF THIS LAND, THAT IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED FOR LOCAL RETAIL, CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
THE APPLICANT TRIED TO GET THIS CHANGED, BUT UP TO THIS POINT, IT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED.
AND THE ZONING COMMISSION AND CEDAR PARK ACTUALLY VOTED TO NOT APPROVE THE CHANGE SINCE THEN, IT'S BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM CITY COUNCIL AND AS JENNY BRASH,
AND THERE ARE SOME HOLDOUTS AND REGARDS TO THE PROPOSED OFFICE PLAN THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WOULD PROVIDE THIS BUFFER BETWEEN THE AUTO SHOP AND THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT THAT IS NOT THAT PROPOSED OFFICE DEVELOPMENT IS CERTAINLY NOT LIKE A DONE DEAL.
AND RIGHT NOW IT'S ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
THE BILL, UH, I GUESS THE FINAL POINT IN REGARDS TO THIS IS THAT THE CURRENT ZONING OF LR IS NOT OVERLY RESTRICTIVE TO THE APPLICANT'S ABILITIES TO DEVELOP THIS PARCEL OF LAND.
THERE'S PLENTY OF THINGS THAT THEY COULD PUT ON THERE.
MOST OF WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY MORE ACCURATELY FULFILL THE DESIRE OF THE CITY, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THE IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PROVIDE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES THAT ARE WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO WALK TO AN AUTO BODY SHOP, BUT PEOPLE MIGHT WALK TO OTHER TYPES OF BUILDINGS THAT COULD CURRENTLY BE BUILT THIS SITE.
UM, MY POINT TOO IS JUST KIND OF ELABORATING THE WAYS THAT THIS CONFLICTS WITH THE IMAGINE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, BOTH, BOTH IN BOTH DOCUMENTS IN 2013 TO 2021, THIS WAS REFERENCED, UH, AND NO UPDATES HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE 2013 THAT WOULD AFFECT THE STATUS OF THIS IS OWNING.
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ALSO SEVERAL POLICIES WERE USED TO JUSTIFY THE ZONING OF THE CURRENT ZONING OF LR AND SEVERAL DIFFERENT ONES.AND NOW BEING USED TO JUSTIFY THE ZONING OF GR.
SO IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE WHEN I'M READING THE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY'RE BEING CHERRY PICK, JUST BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT HOLISTICALLY, IT SEEMS CLEAR TO ME THAT THIS IS NOT THE TYPE OF THING THAT IS INTENDED TO BE BUILT SO CLOSE TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ESPECIALLY WITH THIS CRITICAL WATER QUALITY STUFF THAT I KNOW THAT THE ENGINEER WILL KNOW MORE THAN ME ABOUT THAT, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT IN.
ANYWAY, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION POLICIES, THE GENERAL THEME HERE FOR THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN IS THAT THEY WANT TO CREATE SPACES THAT ARE WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE, AGAIN, THE ZONING ACTUALLY FACILITATES THIS BULL MUCH BETTER THAN A GR ZONING READ AT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING AN AUTO BODY SHOP, UH, THE OTHER POLICIES.
AND AGAIN, IN MY DOCUMENT, I'VE LOOKED IT UP.
I'VE LISTED LOTS OF SPECIFIC ONES THAT I KNOW I'M SHORT ON TIME.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO RUN THROUGH EVERYTHING OTHER POLICIES OR THE CONSERVATION OF THE ENVIRONMENT, WHERE THERE'S A GOAL TO EXPAND THE CITY'S NAME, INFRASTRUCTURE PROTECTS, WATERWAYS PROTECTS AQUATIC LICENSES, THE CITY'S CREEKS AND LAKES, AND ALSO THAT THEY WANT TO EXPAND AND IMPROVE REGIONAL COLLABORATION AND COORDINATION ACROSS CENTRAL TEXAS TO, I GUESS, FACILITATE THE SCHOOL.
I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO SAY, JUST AS A GENERAL NOTE.
I THINK THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO KIND OF LIVE UP TO THESE SORTS OF IDEALS BY PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK AND POTENTIALLY PURCHASING THIS LAND AND CONVERTING IT TO PARKLAND RIGHT NOW, THIS PLOT THAT IS CONNECTED TO ROSEMARY DENNY PARK, UH, AND HAS A CREEK THAT RUNS INTO ROSEMARY, ANY PARK, WHICH IS, HAS A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE POND.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME.
AND I THINK THAT THAT FITS IN PERFECTLY WITH THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN.
FINALLY, THERE'S A SOCIETY POLICY THAT TALKS ABOUT ENACTING LAND USE THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN.
UH, AND TO ME, THERE'S A DIRECT CONFLICT WITH THIS BECAUSE OF MY THIRD POINT, THAT THERE IS A LINK BETWEEN CHILDHOOD LEUKEMIA AND THE PROXIMITY TO OTHER REPAIR SHOPS AS THIS STUDY IN THE DOCUMENT THAT I PROVIDED.
UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHILE IT'S SPECULATED THAT, UH, BENZINE MIGHT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SEEN INCREASE IN CHILDHOOD LEUKEMIA, IT'S NOT, THERE'S NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT THAT'S THE SOLE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR AND THERE'S MULTIPLE FAMILIES THAT LIVE IN HOUSES, UH, LIKE MINE THAT WOULD BE VERY NEAR TO THIS AUTO REPAIR SHOP AND MOST, NOT MOST OF THEM, BUT I HAVE A CHILD THAT'S YOUNGER THAN THE AGE OF TWO AND OTHERS, ESSENTIALLY AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP IS NOT APPROPRIATE, SO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL SITES.
UM, AND YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A REBUTTAL TO THE REBUTTAL.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I PREDICT POSSIBLY THE, WHAT WILL BE STATED IN, YOU KNOW, TO CONTEST THIS IS THAT THE, THE SON AUTO IS IN A HEAVILY REGULATED INDUSTRY AND THAT THEY USE MODERN METHODS AND THAT THERE'S BEEN A REDUCTION IN THE USE OF BENZENE.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE THAT THE BEST WAY TO ENSURE THAT WATER IS NOT CONTAMINATED AND CHILDREN'S HEALTH IS NOT COMPROMISED, IS NOT THE HEAVILY REGULATED INDUSTRY IT'S TO NOT BUILD AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP RIGHT NEXT TO FREAKS AND RIGHT BEHIND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND WHILE I'M SURE THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME SPENT BY THE APPLICANT TO KIND OF GET THESE PROPOSALS THROUGH.
I JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT MY FAMILY AND OTHER FLIGHTS MONEY SPENT JUST AS MUCH WHEN PURCHASING OUR HOMES AND WE DID SO UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE STUFF LIKE AN AUTO REPAIR SHOP RIGHT BEHIND HER HOUSE.
SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THE BIEBER EITHER, BUT YOU TOLD ME IT WAS EXPIRED.
SO, UH, I GUESS THERE IS IF, UM, MS. BRUSH BRUSH, I WOULD LIKE TO REBUT MS. BRUSH SELECT STAR SIX, PLEASE.
UH, THIS IS JENNY BOSCH AGAIN.
UM, THE INDUSTRY IS HEAVILY REGULATED.
THIS IS LOCATED ON A MAJOR ARTERIAL COLLECTOR.
UH, THERE IS A BUFFER BETWEEN THIS PROJECT AND THE CEDAR PARK.
UM, THERE'S ZONINGS OF GR AND COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY AROUND IT.
AND ALL OF THE WATER QUALITY MEASURES TO PROTECT WATER.
THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS A VERY GOOD CONTROLS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT IS DEVELOPED IN A MANNER THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.
UH, AND SO, UM, REQUESTS THAT YOU, UH, LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY BUILD SOMETHING HERE.
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THANK YOU.UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSIONER SMITH SECONDED BY DINKLER ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER THOMPSON? I THANK YOU, TARA.
UM, MR. PARNELL, I HAVE, I NEED A LITTLE, UM, UH, SORRY.
I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED BY YOUR CLOSING STATEMENTS ABOUT MOVING THE LINES OF THE CRITICAL WATER PROTECTION ZONE.
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MOVING ONE OF THE WATER QUALITY LINES AND I DON'T THINK I WAS TRACKING.
COULD YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND A MAP MIGHT HELP.
WELL, CORNELL HERE, UH, HAPPY TO EXPLAIN THAT CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT DOCUMENT IS AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW, BUT IT HAS A IT'S COLORIZED AND THERE'S ONE THAT'S IN RED AND ONE IS IN BLUE.
THE ONE THAT'S IN RED, WE DON'T THINK APPLIES AT ALL BECAUSE WATER DOESN'T TRAVEL BACK ACROSS LAKE LINE TO GET TO THE CENTER LINE OF THE CREEK FOR WHICH THAT BUFFER IS APPLIED.
SO WE WOULD LIKE FOR THAT BUFFER TO BE DISMISSED OR AVERAGED OUT, OR JUST BASICALLY TO LEAD IT ALTOGETHER BECAUSE THE BUFFER DOESN'T APPLY SINCE LAKE LINE NOW BIFURCATES THE BUFFER, THE BLUE BUFFER, THE 300 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE MAJOR WATERWAY WE KNOW CANNOT BE MOVED UNLESS IT'S AVERAGED.
UM, AND BY AVERAGED, I MEAN TO SAY THAT IT'S LIKE A BALLOON THAT YOU CAN SQUEEZE DOWN ON ONE SIDE AND EXPANDS ON ANOTHER, ON THE SITE THAT WE OWN SUCH THAT WE COULD PULL THAT DRIVEWAY, UM, OUT OF THE CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE AND ALLOW US TO COME IN OFF OF LAKE LINE AND TAKE ACCESS THERE WHERE THE DRIVEWAY WAS BUILT 20 YEARS AGO AT THE MEDIUM BREAK.
THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE APPLICANT.
OD WAS, UH, I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT, UM, THE, THE, WHAT, UH, WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO HERE.
UH, THE, THE BACKUP SEEMED TO SHOW AN OFFICE BUILDING THERE.
IF I W MAYBE TH THAT'S WHAT I SAW IN THE BACKUP.
IT LOOKED LIKE SOME OFFICE BUILDINGS THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, UH, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE, IF YOU'RE PROPOSING OFFICE BUILDINGS OR AUTO REPAIR SHOP AND I'M UNDER W UM, I'M HEARING YOU WANT TO DO AUTO REPAIR SHOP THERE.
SO COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT, WHAT YOUR INTENTION HAS OR YES, SIR.
UH, THIS IS JENNY BRUSH THE APPLICANT AGAIN, THE PORTION THAT'S IN CEDAR PARK.
WE ARE LOOKING AT A PD, A PUD DOCUMENT TO CHANGE THAT TO AN LOCAL OFFICES OWNING AND DO AN OFFICE PROJECT IN THAT 200 FEET.
WE CAN FIT IT IN THE 200 FEET BECAUSE WE'RE USING DRIVEWAYS, ET CETERA.
UH, AND IT'S A SINGLE ROW OF, OF OFFICE BUILDINGS.
AND THAT IS SOLELY IN CEDAR PARK.
THE PORTION IN AUSTIN FINISH, NO, THE, THE, THE, HE MIGHT'VE BEEN DISCONNECTED.
IT LOOKS LIKE SEVERAL OTHERS MAY BE DISCONNECTED AS WELL HERE, TRYING TO RECONNECT CHAIRED COMMISSION LIAISON CAN JUST HOLD FOR A MINUTE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF SHE FINISHED IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE SHE FINISHED THE, THE RE THE ANSWER.
SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE HER A CHANCE TO FINISH THAT.
UH, THIS, THIS IS JENNY BRAS, THE APPLICANT, AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES, THE OFFICE BUILDINGS.
IT'S GOING TO BE SOLELY IN CEDAR PARK.
THE, UH, OFFICE BUILDING IS A PROPOSED BUILDING THAT WE WANT TO DO IN CEDAR PARK THAT PROVIDES A NICE BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN AUSTIN TO DO THAT.
WE NEED TO DO A ZONING CHANGE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND CITY AT THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK, WHICH WE ARE PROCESSING RIGHT NOW IN THE FORM OF A PD.
WE'RE DOING A PD BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THINGS LIKE LIMITING THE HEIGHT, AND WE'RE MOVING A, THE MA A
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EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL FROM THE CURRENT PROPERTY LINE TO 30 FEET INTO OUR PROPERTY, SO THAT THE TREES ALONG THE CURRENT PROPERTY LINE ARE NOT CUT DOWN.AND SO TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO DO A PD, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WRITING THE PD TO GO FORWARD IN THE CITY.
THAT'S WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO ME BY STAFF AND COUNCIL.
AND SO WE'RE DOING THE PD ON THAT.
AND WHAT WE JUST SAW FROM THE, THE, I GUESS THE, UH, THE EXPERT THERE ON, UH, WATER QUALITY, UM, WHO JUST SPOKE, UH, WHAT, WHAT HE JUST SHOWED US THAT WAS THE PROPOSED SERVICE, UH, I MEAN, UH, AUTO REPAIR COMPONENT, WHICH IS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
I APPRECIATE YOUR, THIS INFORMATION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER GREENBERG AND THEN SMITH.
SO I WOULD SAY I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE AUTO REPAIR USE.
UM, GR IN AND OF ITSELF DOESN'T SEEM TO BE PROBLEMATIC, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST PASSED ON KC FOR.
UM, BUT THAT SEEMS A LITTLE POINTLESS SINCE THE PURPOSE OF THIS REZONING IS TO ALLOW AUTO REPAIR SHOPS.
SO I MOVED TO DENY THE REQUEST.
UH, IS THERE A SECOND? IS THAT COMMISSIONER KING? ARE YOU SECONDING THE MOTION OR YES, I'M SECONDING FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION.
UM, THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE.
I BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH A GR ZONING IF THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK HAD CHANGE THEIR ZONING.
UH, BUT RIGHT NOW THE CITY HAS CEDAR PARK HAS SU, WHICH IS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS IN THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK ON HALF THE PROPERTY AND URBAN RESIDENTIAL ZONING, UM, AND A REQUEST TO PUT GR, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF IT WERE A PUD PD DEVELOPMENT IN CEDAR PARKS, WE MAY BE KIND OF AHEAD OF OURSELVES.
I'M WAITING TO SEE WHAT CEDAR PARK DOES WITH THEIR ZONING, AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BASED ON A CHANGE IN THE ZONING AND CEDAR PARK.
UH, CAUSE I, I DON'T THINK GR WILL BE APPROPRIATE IF IT STAYS, AS YOU TEND TO THINK GR MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE IF IT DOES GET CHANGED TO PD.
AND I DO AN OFFICE COMPLEX ON THAT PIECE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SEPARATED THEN FROM THE RESIDENTIAL BY ANOTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.
IS THIS ALMOST LIKE IT'S TOO EARLY TO BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE WOULDN'T WOULDN'T DO AND UNLESS THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK TAKES ACTION ON THEIR ZONING COMMISSIONER, RAY, AND THEN THOMPSON, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, FOLLOWING UP ON COMMISSIONER SMITH SPLINTS.
UM, CAN YOU JUST TALK TO US ABOUT WHERE YOU'RE AT IN THE REZONING PROCESS WITH THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK? YES.
IT WAS DIFFICULT BECAUSE, UH, THE WALL AND FIGURING OUT A WAY WITH THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK TO MOVE THE WALL 30 FEET INTO OUR PROPERTY.
AND, UH, STILL, UH, SO THAT, THAT THEY HAD A 30 FOOT BUFFER ON THEIR SIDE OF THE WALL.
AND WE MET WITH NEIGHBORS, THE GENTLEMAN WHO IS OPPOSED THAT CALLED IN VERY NICE MAN.
THE OTHER NEIGHBORS HAD INDICATED TO ME THAT IF WE WOULD MOVE THE WALL 30 FEET IN THE CEDAR PARK, GIVE THEM THAT 30 FEET FOR THEIR USE, THAT THEY WOULD THEN BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROCESS PROCESS, UH, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS.
AND SO WE'RE RIDING THE PD RIGHT NOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MOVING THE WALL FORWARD.
IF THE GENTLEMEN THAT'S SUPPOSED DOESN'T WANT THE WALL MOVED FORWARD, THEN WE CAN MOVE JOB THE WALL BACK WHERE HE IS BECAUSE HE'S AT THE END AND WE'LL STILL HAVE THE 30 FEET BUFFER ON OUR SIDE.
AND SO, BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING OUT THE PROCESS OF HOW TO HANDLE THIS CEDAR PARK, DIDN'T WANT THE WALL 30 FEET ON OUR PART
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AND ENDED UP WITH A NO MAN'S LAND BETWEEN OUR WALL AND THEIR BACK, THEIR BACK PEN, BECAUSE SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.UM, AND SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA AND WORKED WITH THE CITY AND THE PD WORKS, BE ABLE TO HAVE THE MASONRY WALL.
UH, IT'S A SOLID SURFACE WALL, UM, EIGHT FOOT WALL, 30 FEET ONTO OUR TRACK.
WE, UH, RETAIN THE OWNERSHIP, BUT WE GIVE ALL THE OTHER RIGHTS OF USE TO THE LANDOWNER.
UH, THE, THE HOMEOWNERS THAT IT'S NOW, THEIR BACKYARD, THE COMMERCIAL TRACK THEN WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THE TAXES ON THAT LAND BECAUSE THEY OWN IT.
AND WHEN WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THEY DISCUSSED IT, THEY DECIDED THAT THAT WAS A VIABLE THING THAT THEY LIKED, THAT THERE'S A HEAVY, A LOT OF TREES IN THAT AREA AND THE TREES IN THAT AREA, UM, AT THE BACK OF IT THAT 30 FEET WILL ALLOW A BUFFERING OF TREES WHERE IF WE WENT ALONG THEIR CURRENT BACKYARD FENCE LINES AND BUILT A WALL THERE, THEN WE'RE CUTTING DOWN A LOT OF THE BUFFERING, THE NATURAL VEGETATION, WHICH MAKES IT MUCH MORE PLEASANT FOR THEM.
SO THE, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE OTHER FOLKS THAT BACK UP TO IT AGREEING AND LIKING THIS CONCEPT AND THIS GENTLEMAN THAT CALLED IN DOES NOT LIKE IT.
UH, UH, AND SO WE WOULD STILL GIVE A 30 FOOT BUFFER.
WE JUST WOULD HAVE BUILT WALL IT, BE ON OUR SIDE OF THE WALL INSTEAD OF HIS SIDE OF THE WALL.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? KARA, WERE YOU MOVED AROUND ON MY SCREEN? SO I THINK COMMISSIONER THOMPSON WAS NEXT.
AND I, I WANT TO APPLAUD THE APPLICANT.
THAT'S A REALLY INNOVATIVE, UH, APPROACH AND, AND I APPRECIATE HOW MUCH YOU'VE WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, I, I DID WANT TO ECHO, HOWEVER THAT IT SEEMS LIKE NOT AN OPTIMAL SPOT FOR THIS TYPE OF USE.
AND, UM, AND, AND WHILE I, I EMPATHIZE WITH THE, THE DRAWING THOSE LINES ON THE, THE WATER ZONES THAT, UH, THE CREEK BUFFERS THAT NOW CROSS LAKE LINE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT, THAT IS BISECTED AND, AND MAYBE NOT AS MEANINGFUL, BUT IT IS STILL RECHARGE ZONE FOR THE NORTHERN EDWARDS AQUIFER.
AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY SENSITIVE LOCATION FOR RECHARGE AND WHETHER IT'S GOING INTO THE CREEK ITSELF, UM, OR, OR BEING, UM, DIRECTED OFF, UH, IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, I JUST HAVE TO AGREE THAT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S AN OPTIMAL LOCATION FOR THAT USE.
ARE WE READY TO CALL THE QUESTION THEN? ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE MOTION? OH, COMMISSIONER BRAY.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE DOING THE HAND THING OR NOT.
I LIKE, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SMITH, IT'S A WEIRD KIND OF CHICKEN OR THE EGG WITH OURS.
LIKE WHAT THE CITY PARK CEDAR PARK DOES WITH THIS.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE, IT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, IT IS ON LAKELAND BOULEVARD, WHICH IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ROAD.
SO I FEEL LIKE THE LEVEL OF DENSITY AND THAT TYPE OF USE MAKES SENSE.
UM, BUT THAT TYPE OF STREET, UM, AND WITH THE BUFFER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THINK IT'S A REASONABLE CONSIDERATION THERE.
UM, I, UH, WATER QUALITY THING I DON'T KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT, BUT I TRUST OUR, UH, CITY SERVICES ON, ON THAT.
UM, SO, UM, I'M STILL WRAPPING MY HEAD AROUND THIS CASE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I DO ONE OF THOSE, LIKE ON LAKELINE BOULEVARD, WHICH IF YOU KIND OF LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP IS A VERY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A REASONABLE PLACE TO PUT GR UM, OKAY.
AND THEN I SEE KIELBASA HAS HER HAND UP.
I PULLED UP MY PARTICIPANTS WINDOWS AND I CAN SEE YOU.
THE ONE THING I'D BE ONE OF THEM WAS LIKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OR A SECOND MOTION AND POSTPONE THE PROJECT UNTIL THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK TAKES SOME KIND OF ZODIACS AND TO SEE WHAT COMES FROM THE CITY AND THEATER PART.
BECAUSE AGAIN, I THINK GR WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE IF THIS WERE AN OFFICE TYPE DEVELOPMENT.
I DON'T THINK GRV APPROPRIATE IF THIS REMAINS SINGLE FAMILY.
SO RATHER THAN DENY THE ZONING, WHICH MEANS I HAVE SEVERAL YEAR FOR A YEAR BEFORE THEY CAN COME BACK.
AND IF WE POSE PONANT, IF APPLICANT'S WILLING POST DOLLARS, UNTIL WE HAVE SOME MAGIC FROM THE THEATER PARKING, WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD BE IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL WITH WHAT IS GOING ON IN JASON TO US FROM THE, I GUESS I PUMPED INTO MOTION.
THAT'D BE ANOTHER MOTION TO POSTPONE THE PROJECT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE CITY OF CEDAR PARK, TEXAS ZONING
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ACTION.I'LL SECOND IT, AND IS THAT, UH, SO WE CAN ONLY POSTPONE FOR 60 DAYS.
UM, HAS THAT FRIENDLY COMMISSIONER GREENBERG A FRIEND? ME, UM, WELL, IT'S A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
WE MIGHT AS WELL VOTE ON IT, BUT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL.
NOT UNTIL WE CAN'T MAKE AN IN-DEPTH AS WE MAKE IT 60 DAYS, FOUR TIMES WE CAN ALWAYS DO IT AGAIN.
THAT'D BE A DATE SPECIFIC OF JULY 13TH.
DAVE WOULD BE JULY 13TH? NO, AUGUST.
WHERE DID THE DAY GO? SO WHAT WOULD BE THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST? UM, HANG ON.
THAT WOULD BE AUGUST THE 17TH.
HOPEFULLY IT'S JUST SLIGHTLY MORE THAN 16.
WE CAN DO AUGUST THE, IF WE CAN'T GO 60 DAYS AND WE HAVE TO GO AUGUST.
I WOULD, I WOULD THINK, IS THERE A LIMIT TO WHAT WE CAN, CAN'T WE SAY AUGUST? UH, WHATEVER THAT IS THE SECOND.
SO I SEE A LOT OF HANDS, UH, COMMISSIONER BRAY, AND THEN A KING KEEP DOING THAT.
UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW LIKE WHAT CEDAR PARKS, LIKE TIMELINE IS.
MAYBE THE APPLICANT COULD GIVE US MORE INFORMATION.
SO I GUESS I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
UH, LIKE WHAT, WHAT, WHEN ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER IT? CAUSE I COULD ALSO SEE THEM WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO OWN IT BEFORE THEY WANT IT.
SO WE COULD BE KIND OF A CHICKEN OR THE EGG THERE.
UH, SO I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE HEAR COMMISSIONER SMITH IF HE THINKS WHY HE THINKS IT WOULD BE, UM, MORE LIKELY TO LIKE THEIR PIECE OF THE PUZZLE IS, SHOULD BE BEFORE OUR PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.
ZONED URBAN RESIDENTIAL, SO ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THAT SPACE.
AND THIS GR THE AUTOMOTIVE WOULD STICK INTO THAT RESIDENTIAL PIECE.
AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE AS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE IT ENCROACHING INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AS MUCH AS IF IT WERE ZONED OFFICE, THEN IT WOULD BE, I COULD BE MUCH EASIER TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE A BUDDING, AN OFFICE COMPLEX.
THE OFFICE COMPLEX IS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THIS AUTOMOTIVE USE.
SO IT MAKES MORE SENSE, BUT NOT AT THE OLDER RESIDENTIAL USES IN BETWEEN.
WE'VE GOT A LETTER FROM THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER SAYING IT'S NOT VIABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL.
LOOK, THE THEATER PARK IS DOING, UM, I JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE WE DECIDED WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON OUR SIDE.
UM, AND I GUESS THE OTHER, I HEARD THE, UH, THE, UM, SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION SAY THAT THE CASE HAD BEEN DENIED AND IT DOES NOT WHAT THE APPLICANT SAID.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE SPEAKER IS STILL ON THE LINE TO CLARIFY THAT COMMENT OR THE APPLICANT COULD CLARIFY WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT.
I AM STILL HERE IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.
UH, SO BASICALLY WHAT I MEANT BY THAT WAS THAT THEY TRIED TO CHANGE IT TO A LOCAL COMMERCIAL WITH CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OR WHATEVER.
AND THAT WENT IN FRONT OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION OF CEDAR PARK AND THAT THEY, UH, VOTED TO NOT RECOMMEND THAT ZONING CHANGE.
IT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WHERE IT WAS AT DISCUSSION, BUT NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON IT.
AND FROM THAT POINT, IT WAS WITHDRAWN TO MY UNDERSTANDING.
UH, IT WAS WITHDRAWN BY JENNY BRASH, THE APPLICANT, BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO GO THROUGH, UH, AND DISCUSS THIS KIND OF LIKE THE 30 FOOT THING.
SHE'S THE PUG DOCUMENT THAT SHE'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
AND THEN JUST TO CLARIFY, SHE, SHE SAID THAT I WAS THE ONLY ONE, OPPOSED, I GUESS, TO THE 30 FOOT THING THAT IS NOT TRUE.
THERE IS ANOTHER NEIGHBOR THAT IS OPPOSED.
AND AT THE TIME STATED THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY CAN DO THIS IS THAT EVERY ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS AGREED ON IT.
SO THERE'S JUST, THERE'S KIND OF CONFLICTING INFORMATION, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT SHE IS TELLING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
UM, AND YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S MY PIECE ON IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY IT DENIED THE ZONING COMMISSION VOTED TO NOT RECOMMEND THE ZONING CHANGE.
HE IS EXACTLY ACCURATE ON THAT.
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SAID, UH, NOT RECOMMEND.AND THEN AFTER THE FIRST READING AND TALKING TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEN MEETING MORE WITH NEIGHBORS, WE WENT WITH A DIFFERENT ROUTE OF THE 30 FEET SETBACK AND A LOT MORE CONDITIONS, UH, IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
UM, THE, IF THERE ARE TWO THAT DO NOT WANT IT, THERE ARE STILL 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 2, 4, 6, 8, 9 OTHERS.
THERE'S THE MAJORITY THAT ONE.
AND SO WERE, THESE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT IT.
AND WE WOULD HAVE A WHILE BEHIND NEXT ON THE PROPERTY FOR DOWN, BUT WE WOULD STILL KEEP A 30 FOOT SETBACK ON OUR SIDE.
AND SO, UH, AFTER DISCUSSING WITH STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE ARE PREPARING THAT DOCUMENT.
I HAVE A COMMISSIONER GREENBERG NEXT AND THEN COMMISSIONER KING AND THINKER.
AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY CALL THE QUESTION AFTER THAT.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY BRIEFLY THAT THE CHICKEN AND EGG THING, ISN'T REALLY AN ISSUE BECAUSE THE LR THAT'S IN PLACE WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S BEING ATTEMPTED IN CEDAR PARK.
SO I THINK THE POSTPONEMENT IS A GOOD IDEA.
I MEAN, AS OPPOSED TO DENIAL, WHICH WOULD MEAN THEY CAN'T COME BACK FOR, I BELIEVE 18, WELL, IT'S NOT UP TO US, BUT COUNCIL DENIAL WILL CAUSE THEM AN 18 MONTH DELAY.
TEEN COMMISSIONER KING IS THANK YOU.
UH, AND I, UH, WOULD THIS DELAYED THAT ADDITIONAL TIME THAT WE'RE ALLOWING THEM, WHICH I, I DO APPRECIATE THAT ADDITIONAL TIME.
I DO APPRECIATE HOW THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
AND, UH, AND I DO THINK GR IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION, HOWEVER, IS SINCE THEY HAVE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS, THEN I JUST HAVE CONCERN ABOUT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR AT THIS SITE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT CEDAR PARK DOES IT THAT'S.
I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT THERE.
THAT WOULD STILL BE OF CONCERN.
SO, UH, I DO SUPPORT THE POSTPONEMENT.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, UH, IS I'M THINKING WITH OUR OWN CITY PEDS THAT STAFF, UH, HAS, UH, AN ABILITY TO POSTPONE AN ITEM BEYOND 60 DAYS, IS THAT CORRECT FOR, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT NEEDS THAT MUCH TIME, BUT I'M TRYING TO SEE IF THAT'S AN AVENUE.
CONVENTIONALIZE ON I AND VERA.
SO, UH, BEYOND 60 DAYS WOULD REQUIRE A BRAIN NOTICE AND THAT WOULD, UM, CA UH, BE A COST AT THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, UH, RESPONSE.
UM, UH, I WANT TO SHARE, UM, COMMISSIONER KING'S CONCERN ABOUT SOME OF THE USES IN GR FOR ME, IT'S NOT JUST AUTO REPAIR ITS SERVICE STATION, IT'S PLANT NURSERY, IT'S, UM, PRINTING AND PUBLISHING, UM, USES THAT HAVE, UH, CHEMICAL APPLICATIONS.
SO, UM, WELL I SUPPORT THE POSTPONEMENT BECAUSE I DO THINK IT GIVES AN APPROPRIATE BUFFER AND THE CASES SHOULD BE THOUGHT OF COLLECTIVELY.
I STILL HAVE SOME HESITATION ABOUT THE GR THERE THAT LOT NARROWS AND, UM, IS SO CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, NOT, UH, USING THE TYPICAL TOOLS.
I, I AGREE WITH YOU AS WELL, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE VOTE.
SO, UM, THERE'S NOT ANY MORE QUESTIONS, UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING.
I APOLOGIZE TO INTERRUPT, BUT IF WE CAN ALSO WITH THAT V IF WE'RE CONSIDERING POSTPONING, IF WE'LL DO A TWO-STEP AND RECONSIDER THE PUBLIC HEARING TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND POSTPONED THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.
BY GOING FROM HIM WITH MY MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONTINUE IT AS A PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.
SO WE CAN READ HERE THE CASE WITH A HEARING ON OCTOBER, AUGUST, AUGUST 3RD, AUGUST 3RD, THIRD, THIRD.
I LOWER MY CALENDAR DOWN AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, WHICH IS TO, UM, POSTPONE TILL AUGUST 3RD AND REOPEN
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THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED AND ABSTENTIONS.I JUST, I'VE BEEN, I SAW AN EMAIL IN MY CITY EMAIL ACCOUNT ABOUT A SPEAKER THAT ATTEMPTED TO SIGN UP TONIGHT AND HAD APPARENTLY HAD TROUBLE SIGNING UP FOR COMMUNITY CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.
I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT THERE TO SEE IF, UH, UH, THE, IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO ALLOW SOMEBODY TO, TO, UH, GO AHEAD AND DO CITIZEN COMMUNICATION THREE MINUTES, UH, BEFORE WE END OUR MEETING, OR AT SOME POINT MAYBE NOW, I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT THERE.
I JUST GOT THE EMAIL THAT THEY HAD TROUBLE.
THEY DIDN'T RECEIVE THE CODE APPARENTLY THAT THEY NEED TO ACTUALLY GET CONNECTED TO THE MEETING.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT THE COMMISSION COULD HANDLE OR ADDRESS FOR SURE.
COMMISSION LIAISON AND FERRIS.
SO, UM, SPEAKER REQUESTS DID NOT ROLL OVER TOO WITH A FOLLOWING MEETING.
UM, SO WHEN THE, UH, AGENDAS ARE POSTED, THAT IS THE BEGINNING OF THE REGISTRATION PERIOD.
I DID NOT RECEIVE A REQUEST DURING THE REGISTRATION PERIOD.
UH, SO THAT MEANS THAT THE PERSON DID NOT ACTUALLY REGISTER FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION DURING, DURING THE TIME THAT REGISTRATION WAS OPEN.
SO COMMISSIONER DINGLER, DID YOU HAVE CHAIR? I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING CONCERN.
SO I JUST, WHEN I, WHEN WE GET TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, WELL, I'LL, I'LL ADDRESS IT AT THAT POINT.
SO WE HAVE C ONE ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION AND WE HAVE THIS STANDING ITEM, AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT VICE CHAIR KIELBASA ABOUT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
[D. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
WHICH IS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. AND SO DID YOU WANT TO THANK YOU CHAIR? YES.UH, WE, WE, THERE'VE BEEN A QUESTION ABOUT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO CHANGE OUR SPEAKER REGISTRATION TO SAME DAY, UH, REGISTRATION, SAME DAY OF THE MEETING BY NOON OF THAT SAME DAY, UH, WHICH OTHER COMMISSIONS DO ALLOW AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I AM OPEN TO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD GET A SECOND PERSON, A PERSON TO CO-SPONSOR THIS WITH ME, JUST TO HAVE A BRIEF DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AS, YOU KNOW, AN AGENDA ITEM WHEN THE COMMISSION, SO WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
I JUST, AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL REQUESTS FOR THAT.
SO IF WE CAN GET A SECOND OR A SECOND SPONSOR, I'D LIKE TO GET THAT AS AN AGENDA ITEM, IT LOOKS LIKE COMMISSIONER BRAY IS SECONDING OR BEING, BECOMING A SECOND SPONSOR THERE FOR YOU.
SO, UM, WE'LL GET THAT IN A FUTURE ITEM.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BARRY, ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE GROUP? OKAY.
UM, WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF AGENDA ITEMS FROM THE LAST TIME, AND I DON'T KNOW, ANDREW, IF YOU HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THOSE OR WHEN WE WOULD HEAR ON THOSE ITEMS, ONE OF THEM WAS WATERSHED, I BELIEVE.
AND ONE OF THEM WAS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
I'M COORDINATING WITH COMMISSIONER THOMPSON AND WE'LL HAVE THOSE, UH, SET FOR THEIR FUTURE MEETING DATES.
[E. COMMITTEE REPORTS & WORKING GROUPS]
E COMMITTEE REPORTS CAN WORK IN GROUPS AND UNFORTUNATELY OUR CODES AND ORDINANCES COMMITTEE WAS CANCELED AGAIN, I GUESS THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE ANY THINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO MEET ABOUT, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DURING COMMITTEE.DO YOU GUYS HAVE A REPORT? IT WAS A MEETING ON FRIDAY, BUT I DID WELL NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE WAS ABLE TO.
I WAS ALSO UNABLE TO ATTEND BECAUSE WORK HOURS.
SO MAYBE THERE WASN'T A CORUM, UM, SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE.
WE, WE ARE REPORTED AT OUR LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD MET THAT THE PRIOR TO OUR LAST ZAP MEETING.
SO WE HAVE NOT MET SINCE THEN.
AND THEN THE ONION CREEK AND LOCALIZED FLOODING WORKING GROUP.
I'LL JUST DO, DO A BRIEF THING.
WE DO PLAN TO, TO BRING THAT BACK UP.
WE JUST NEEDED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S IT, EVERYONE.
THANK YOU FOR A GOOD MEETING AND WELCOME AGAIN, MS. COMMISSIONER GREENBERG.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GREENBERG.