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OH FOUR, I THINK WE'VE DONE A SOUND CHECK WITH EVERYBODY HERE.
I'M GOING TO GO AND BRING THIS MEETING TO ORDER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION JUNE 22ND.
[Determination of Quorum / Meeting Called to Order]
UH, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND, UM, IN A WAY, UH, ONE TO START WITH, UM, ROLL CALL, UM, JUST RAISE YOUR HANDS AND, UH, SAY HERE, UH, COMMISSIONER CZAR, UH, COMMISSIONER COX, COMMISSIONER FLORES, UH, VICE CHAIR.HEMPEL UH, COMMISSIONER HOWARD, MR. MISH TODDLER.
UM, I THINK WE'RE STILL, UH, COMMISSIONER YONAS, POLITO, MR. SCHNEIDER, UH, COMMISSIONER SHEA, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.
AND I THINK, UH, JUST TO CHECK, UH, I THINK WE'RE STILL, I'M NOT SAYING COMMISSIONER PRACTICES AND COMMISSIONER, UH, KINDLY YET.
UH, NEITHER WILL JOIN US SOON.
UH, I DID NOT GET A REPORT THAT WE'D HAD ANYBODY MISSING THIS EVENING.
UM, AND, UH, BEFORE WE GO FURTHER, I THINK WE HAD, UH, WE WERE TRYING TO CONNECT SOMEBODY THAT WANTED TO SPEAK, UM, UNDER THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.
IT'S BEEN AWHILE SINCE WE'VE HAD ANYONE.
SO, UM, ANDREW, DO WE HAVE SYNOVIA JOSEPH CHAIR COMMISSION LIAISON ADVER.
I DON'T HAVE HER SHOWING ON THE LINE, BUT MS. JOSEPH, IF YOU'RE ON THE TELECONFERENCE, YOU'LL SELECT STAR SIX.
UM, WHAT WE'LL DO IS, UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND I'LL, I'LL GET THROUGH SOME HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS, UH, AND MAYBE WE'LL BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER CONNOLLY.
YOU WANT TO DO A SOUND CHECK REAL QUICK? I'M HERE.
UH, YEAH, LET'S GO AND DO SOME HOUSEKEEPING AND I'LL GIVE, UM, IT'S A NOVIA JOSEPH ONE MORE TIME.
UM, IF WE CAN GET HER ON, ON THE LINE.
UH, SO, UH, JUST USE, I WOULD LIKE TO REPRESENT TODAY.
WE HAVE EXTRA OFFICIAL MEMBERS HERE WITH US.
UH, JUST INITIALLY JESSICA COHEN AND ARTSY SINGH, UM, ARE JOINING US TODAY, UH, JUST FOR A REMINDER TO HAVE YOUR GREEN, RED, YELLOW ITEMS FOR VOTING, UM, AND, UH, REMAIN MUTED WHEN YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING AND RAISE YOUR HAND TO BE RECOGNIZED.
AND, UH, PLEASE, UM, GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE, IF I'M NOT SEEING YOU RAISE YOUR HAND, UH, FOR PARTICIPANTS OUT THERE, UH, SELECT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE AND ITEMS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
UH, YOU'LL GET A EMAIL WHEN WE'RE ABOUT 15 MINUTES OUT FROM THE ITEM.
UH, SO YOU KNOW, WHEN TO JOIN US.
SO, UH, JUST A QUICK NOTE TODAY, UH, WE HAVE A, UH, WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING THE, UH, URBAN RENEWAL PLAN AND THE NCDS FOR 11TH AND 12TH STREET, UH, IS YOU RECEIVED AN EMAIL, UM, FROM ANDREW, WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO, UH, AGREE ON A SET OF, UH, SPECIAL RULES FOR DISCUSSION AND DEBATE.
UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAD A WORKING GROUP OR HOLD TOGETHER AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER.
AND SO IT KIND OF WARRANTS, UH, UH, A BIT OF A CHANGE FOR OUR NORMAL DEBATE PROCEDURES, ESPECIALLY SINCE THERE'S BEEN SOME GAP BETWEEN THE TIME THAT WE HEARD THE, UH, THE STAFF PRESENTATION AND, UM, AND THIS TIME PERIOD.
SO, UM, I'LL BE GOING OVER THOSE, UH, PRIOR, PRIOR TO TAKING UP THE ITEM, UH, WE WILL GO THROUGH IN DETAIL, UH, MY PROPOSED, UH, PROCEDURES, AND THEN WE WILL DISCUSS AND VOTE ON THOSE.
UM, SO THIS WILL BE A GOOD WARMUP FOR THINGS LIKE THE TRAFFIC,
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UH, UH, TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA, MANUAL, AND OTHER FEATURE, LAND CODE TYPE, UM, ISSUES WE MAY HAVE TO ADDRESS.UH, SO IT'LL BE, UH, IT'LL BE GOOD FOR US TO GET FAMILIAR WITH DIFFERENT RULES FOR DEBATE.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, UH, THAT'LL BE COMING UP AND A LITTLE WHILE.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I'M GOING TO GIVE ONE MORE TRY FOR, UH, NOVIA JOSEPH STAR SIX, UH, UNDER CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.
[Reading of Agenda]
SO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AS, UH, WE HAD DISCUSSED LAST TIME TO TRY TO ACCELERATE THIS, I'M NOT GOING TO READ A LOT OF THE, UM, SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THROUGH THIS A LITTLE QUICKER THAN USUAL.UM, SO, UM, UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES, UH, FOR THE 8TH OF JUNE.
DID ANY OF COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY CHANGES, UM, THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE TO THOSE MINUTES? OKAY.
UH, WE'LL PUT THOSE ON THERE AS THEY ARE, UH, UNDER SECTION B.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, B ONE PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 20 20 0 0 2.
UH, THIS IS THE POSTPONE TIL, UH, JULY 13TH.
AND, UH, WE HAVE ITEM B TO C 14 DASH 20 21 0 0 6 1 FAIR MARKET.
UH, THIS ITEM REZONING ITEM IS POSTPONE UNTIL JULY 13TH.
WE HAVE ITEM B3 PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2020 DASH 0 0 2 0 2 CENTRAL EAST.
UM, THIS IS ALSO, THIS IS AN APPLICANT POSTPONE UNTIL JULY 13TH.
AND WE HAVE ITEM BEFORE REZONING C 14 DASH 20 21 0 5 5 8 DESK CENTRAL EAST.
THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TILL JULY 13TH, ITEM B FIVE.
UM, SO I THINK I LEFT OFF ON B FIVE.
THIS IS A PLAN AMENDMENT NPA 2021 DASH ZERO ZERO SEVEN ZERO ONE TEN EIGHT ZERO SEVEN NEWMONT ROAD.
UH, THIS IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, ITEM B SIX, REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 0 7 9 DASH 10.
AT, UH, 10, 8 0 7 NEWMONT ROAD.
I'M N B SEVEN C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 0 1 9 AT 5,700 GROVER AVENUE AND 56 1 2 ROOSEVELT AVENUE.
THIS ITEM IS ON CONSENT AND A B EIGHT REZONING.
IT'S A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TILL JULY 13TH, C 14 DASH 20 21 0 0 4 7 MORRIS CROSSING FARMHOUSE, MAYBE GOING TO BE NINE REZONING CASE.
SEE 8 1 4 DASH NINE SEVEN DASH 0 1 1 FOR LEANDER REHABILITATION PUTT AMENDMENT.
UH, THIS ITEM IS ON CONSENT ITEM B 10 REZONING CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 0 7 8 SHEL CYCLE.
UH, THIS IS A DISCUSSION CASE WE'LL BE HEARING THIS EVENING.
UH, B 11 REZONING CASE NUMBER C 14 H DASH 2021 DASH 0 0 9 7 POSEY HOUSE BESIDE THEM IS ON CONSENT ITEM B 12 PLAN AMENDMENT.
YOU RP FOR EAST 11TH AND 12TH STREET, URBAN RENEWAL AREA MODIFICATION, NUMBER 12.
UH, JUST A REMINDER THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED.
SO WE WILL BE BEGIN DISCUSSION ON THIS CASE THIS EVENING.
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UM, AND WE'LL TAKE THAT THIS UP WITH ITEMS B 13 AND B 14.THE 13 IS REZONING A CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH 20 21 0 0 3 3 EAST 11TH STREET, NCCD AMENDMENT.
UH, AND AGAIN, THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED AND WE'LL BEGIN DISCUSSION THIS EVENING BEFORE 13, THIS CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH 20 21 0 0 37 EAST 12TH STREET NCCD.
UH, PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED AND WE'LL TAKE THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION ON A B 15 FINAL PLAT FROM, UH, AN APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN, C H J 2008 DASH 0 1 7 6 0 1 DOT EIGHT EIGHT SUNSHADES SOUTH SECTION EIGHT.
THIS IS ON CONSENT ITEM B 16 PRELIMINARY PLAN WITH VARIANTS CASE NUMBER C EIGHT DASH 2020 DASH 0 0 3 1 SADDLE RIDGE AT WILD HORSE RANCH.
OKAY, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.
WE'RE A DISAPPROVAL OF THE LUMINARY PLAN FOR THE REASONS LISTED IN EXHIBIT C, UH, BUT W IT'S, UH, APPROVAL OF THE VARIANCES FOR THE REASONS LISTED IN EXHIBIT D.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A DISAPPROVAL AGAIN FOR, UH, REASONS LISTED IN EXHIBIT C AND APPROVAL FOR THE VARIANCES FOR REASONS IN EXHIBIT D, UH, ITEM B 17 LONG RAIN, CRP PLANNING.
THIS ITEM IS CURRENTLY ON CONSENT.
UH, WE HAVE THE, UM, UH, THESE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, UH, COMMITTEE THAT, UH, REVIEWED THIS AND IS FORWARDED THIS ONTO US FOR APPROVAL.
THIS IS THE FISCAL YEAR 21 THROUGH 23 LONG RANGE CIP PLANNING MEMO UNDER THE CITY CHARTER, WHERE WE'RE REQUIRED TO PRODUCE THIS MEMO AS A PLANNING COMMISSION EACH YEAR.
UH, SO THIS FULFILLS OUR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE CHARTER OR ONE OF THEM, UH, THAT'S CURRENTLY ON CONSENT.
UM, WHEN I LIKE TO DO, DO WE HAVE A MEMBER OF THE, UM, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING TEAM THAT WOULD LIKE TO JUST QUICKLY GIVE US A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT, UH, WHAT WENT INTO PRODUCING THIS LETTER? UH, CHAIR SHAW SPEAKING? UM, YES, WE HAD TO, SO WE HAD A VERY SHORT TURNAROUND TIME.
SO WE WORKED WITH STAFF, UM, TO SET UP TO A SPECIAL CALLED MEETINGS AND REVIEWED, UM, THE STAFF PART OF THE MEMO FOR US AND WALKED US THROUGH IT.
UM, AND WE HAD SOME VERY GOOD, ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, THE ITEMS IN THE, UM, THE MEMO.
AND SO REST ASSURED OUR COMMITTEE DID THOROUGHLY REVIEW, UM, WHAT YOU HAVE TODAY, BUT BEFORE YOU TODAY.
SO, UM, I, I, UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE FROM THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO SPEAK, I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO GET THIS TO, UM, COUNSEL BEFORE THE 30TH.
SO, UH, WHICH IS WHY IT IS IT'S HERE ON OUR AGENDA, UH, COMMISSIONER COX.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION, JUST TO ELABORATE ON, ON WHAT COMMISSIONER FLORES SAID.
SO AT THE MEETING, WE STRENGTHENED THE LANGUAGE ABOUT RESILIENCY AND CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT, THAT IS DONE IN AN EQUITABLE WAY ACROSS THE CITY.
UH, WE STRENGTHENED LANGUAGE ABOUT, UH, KIND OF SUPPORTING THE ART AND MUSICIAN.
AND THEN I REMEMBER WE STRENGTHENED LANGUAGE ABOUT THE CITY DEPARTMENT, ACTUALLY WORKING BETTER WITH EACH OTHER, UH, BECAUSE THEY'VE, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF DISPARATE, UH, SYSTEMS THAT THEY USE, AND IT'S A BIT HARD TO MANAGE THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE THINGS THAT I REMEMBER THAT WE STRENGTHENED IN THE LANGUAGE, AND THAT SHOULD BE REFLECTED IN THE MEMO THAT WAS GONE.
UH, SO THEN ITEM, AS I SAID IS ON CONSENT AND THAT IS, I'M JUST DOUBLE CHECKING HERE.
UM, SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE THE DISCUSSION ITEMS THIS
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EVENING, UH, WE WILL BE DISCUSSING, UH, ITEMS B 10, AND THEN AS A GROUP, WE WILL TAKE UP ISLANDS, B12 B 13 AND B 14.UH, AND WE WILL START THAT OFF WITH A DISCUSSION OF THE RULES FOR DEBATE FOR THOSE THREE ITEMS, UH, WHEN THEY COME UP.
SO, UH, WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT NEED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM ANY ITEMS, UM, THIS EVENING? ALL RIGHT.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY, UM, SO JUST DO ANY COMMISSIONERS, UH, WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS WE'VE GONE THROUGH FOR DISCUSSION, OR ARE WE GOOD WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, BY SHERIFF HUDDLE? UM, PULLING ANY ITEMS THAT I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT MS. JOSEPH IS ON THE LINE NOW, IF WE WANT TO HAVE IT.
YEAH, I THINK I CAN, UM, LET ME GO AND GET,
[Consent Agenda]
LET ME, UH, LET'S GO AND FINISH THE VOTING ON THE CONSENT AND THEN I'LL, I'LL GIVE, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TRY TO GET HER ON.UM, AND, UH, SO LET'S GO ON AND MOVE FORWARD WITH, DO I HAVE A, UM, A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING APPROVE THE MINUTES AND THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I SEE COMMISSIONER COX ENDED BY COMMISSIONER SHEA.
I'M TRYING TO JUST MAKE SURE I CAN COUNT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12.
I ONLY HAD 11 THE FIRST TIME I MISSED SOMEBODY COMMISSIONER MUSH, TODDLERS OFF, OFF THE DIAS.
NOW I STARTED CUTTING BACK ON.
ARE YOU GUYS ALRIGHT? WE CAN'T SEE YOU, BUT YOU'RE VOTING GREEN.
CAN YOU NOT SEE HER? THAT'S WEIRD.
SO IN MY VIEW, I CAN SEE ALL OF YOU EX SO, UH, THAT IS A BIT, UM, STAFF.
DO WE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT COULD BE GOING ON THERE? WHO CAN'T SEE COMMISSIONER MOOSE DOLLAR HUH? STAFF? ANY, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY, DO WE KNOW WHAT MIGHT BE CAUSING THAT? UH, SOUNDS LIKE IT'S JUST CONNECTION ISSUE.
UM, IF IT'S THAT SOME PEOPLE CAN SEE AND SOME PEOPLE CAN'T, IT WILL PROBABLY RESOLVE ITSELF OVER TIME.
IT'S PROBABLY JUST A SELECTIVE BANDWIDTH ISSUE.
WELL, I'LL, I CAN SEE COMMISSIONER MITCH TODDLER, SO I'LL BE SURE TO COUNT YOUR VOTES.
AND I THINK THEY CAN HEAR YOU.
UH, SO WITH THAT, LET'S GO, UH, WE'VE CLEARED THE CONSENT
[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION]
AGENDA.LET'S GO AHEAD AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.
SO IS NOVIA JOSEPH, IF YOU'RE THERE STAR SIX AND MUTE? NO VIA JOSEPH STAR SIX.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR MEMBERS, UMS AND OVERVIEW JOSEPH.
AND THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN.
I JUST WANTED TO CALL YOUR, TO YOUR ATTENTION, THAT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT FOR CAPITAL METRO'S ORANGE LINE AND BLUE LINE.
THE DEADLINE IS TOMORROW TO SUBMIT SOME COMMENT.
SINCE I JUST THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE SOME COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN ENGAGING IN THE PROCESS, AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, CAPITAL METRO $7.1 BILLION RAIL SYSTEM IS CONTINGENT ON 45%, SOME FUNDING.
AND WHILE I HATE TO SAY IT WAS A PARTISAN ISSUE, WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO STOP THE TUNNEL BILL.
AND I HAVE THE REPUBLICAN SENATORS TO THINK.
I EXPLAINED TO THEM TITLE SIX OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964, WHICH PROHIBITS DISCRIMINATION BASED ON RACE, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN.
AND IF THEY HAD PASSED THAT BILL, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLICIT IN THE DISCRIMINATION OCCURRING IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
AND PERHAPS THEY MAY HAVE JEOPARDIZED THEIR FEDERAL FUNDING.
SO I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT AFRICAN-AMERICANS WAIT 60 MINUTES FOR THE BUS.
AND IT'S SIX MINUTES AT METRO, RURAL CRESSEY'S DOWNTOWN AND TO THE HISPANICS AND THE SPRINGS.
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LONGER FOR THE BUS.AND ON AUGUST 7TH, 2020 CAPITAL METRO ACTUALLY PASSED A RESOLUTION TO MAINTAIN THE DISCRIMINATORY BUS NETWORK.
I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CHAIRMAN WAY, COOPER, WHO IS A LAWYER ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGED THE DISPARATE IMPACTS JANUARY 28TH, 2019, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING MONTH, FEBRUARY 25TH, 2019.
HE RENAMED THE BOARDROOM AFTER ROSA PARKS.
AND SO IT IS DEEPLY DISTURBING, BUT I ALSO WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ZONING AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I DID PROVIDE, UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY A CHART THAT SHOWS THE PROGRAM YEAR 2019, LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT DEVELOPMENTS ARE ALL ONE TO FIVE MILES AWAY FOR TRAVIS COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT.
THERE'S ONE, ANOMALY ONE IS 0.4 MILES.
BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT WHEN THERE'S NOT A BUS ROUTE WITHIN THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE AS THE CROW FLIES, THAT MEANS THAT PEOPLE WHO RELY ON METRO ACCESS ARE DENIED ACCESS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT I JUST LAUGHED AS MUCH.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE MINORITIES THAT ARE NORTH OF US, 180 3, THE ORANGE LINE IS 24 TO 30 YEARS.
THERE WAS AN ELIMINATION OF THE METRO LAPSES BETWEEN SAMSUNG AND APPLE.
AND LASTLY, ON RIVERSIDE, THE BLUE LINE COUNCIL ACTUALLY REZONE THAT AREA, AS YOU'RE AWARE UNTIL THE 17 20 19, THE AUTISM, THE UPPER THIS STUDY SAID ON OCTOBER 23RD, 2019, THAT COUNCIL DIDN'T LISTEN.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT ANY OF THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE YOU, MOST OF THE TIMES, YOU'LL SEE A POLLUTED QUOTE.
SO I JUST WANTED THAT TO BE A PART OF YOUR, UH, MAINLY AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.
AND TO JUST KNOW THAT FOR SOCCER GAMES, THE BUS RUNS EVERY 15 AND 20 MINUTES, BUT THE PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO WORK, IT'S 45 MINUTES IN A 30 MINUTE TRANSFER.
WE'RE ALL PAYING TAXES FOR PROJECT CONNECT, AND WE WILL PROMISE AN EQUITABLE SYSTEM.
LIKE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO MAKE MY COMMENTS TO BEAR IN MIND.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL GLADLY ANSWER THEM AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF CITIZENS' COMMUNICATION.
UM, THEY, SOME OF US MISS THAT.
UM, SO, UH, I'M I SEE WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER PRACTICE HERE WITH US, SO I THINK THAT BRINGS US IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN TO, UH, YOU HAVE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HERE THIS EVENING, UM, AND, UH, WE'VE, WE'RE GOING TO GO AND MOVE
[B10. Rezoning: C14-2021-0078 - Shoal Cycle; District 9]
INTO OUR DISCUSSION CASES.AND THE FIRST ONE WE HAVE IS ITEM B 10.
I GO HERE THIS UP, UH, THIS IS, UH, ITEM D 10 REZONING, UH, C 14 20 21 0 0 7 8 SHELL CYCLE.
WE HAVE SOMEONE, UH, FROM STAFF TO, UH, GIVE US AN OVERVIEW.
CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I'M MARK RIM, SENIOR PLANNER IN HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
THE CASE BEFORE YOU IS SEE 14 20 21 0 7 8 CULTURAL CYCLE.
THE ADDRESS IS EIGHT 12 WEST 11TH STREET.
THE REZONING SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN IN THE NORTHWEST DISTRICT.
YOU'LL FIND A EXHIBIT C IN THE STAFF REPORT SHOWS THAT DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN IS AN ELEMENT OF THE AUSTIN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER OF 2011.
AND THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ZONING CHANGES, INCLUDING THE HEIGHT THAT ARE THE BASIS FOR STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
IN THIS CASE, YOU CAN LOOK AT EXHIBIT D IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THE SUBJECT REZONING TRACT HAS THREE ZONE DISTRICTS, ELLO, G O AND M F FOR THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN.
REMAPS THE ELO TO DMU 40 OR 40 FOOT HEIGHT.
THE G O AND M FOUR TO DMU 60 OR 60 FEET STAFF IS RECOMMENDING CONSOLIDATING THE ZONING TO DMU 60 FOR ALL THREE AREAS.
THE CHARACTER, THE NORTHWEST DISTRICT IS FOR THE TALLEST BUILDINGS TO BE 60 FEET IN HEIGHT.
THE NORTHWEST DISTRICT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ELIGIBLE AREAS FOR HEIGHT OR DENSITY EXCEEDING THE UNDERLYING ZONING.
AND THE, JUST NOTE THAT THE ADJACENT JUDGES HILL AREA EVEN FURTHER NORTH, UM, HAS SOME OF THE LOWEST HEIGHT BUILDINGS AND ALL THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, INSTEAD, THE HEIGHT AND DENSITY, UM, THE SYSTEM FOR SHARING EQUITABLY, SHARING HEIGHT AND DENSITY, WE'RE BUILT INTO THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS SYSTEM FOR THE OTHER DISTRICTS.
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UM, LOOK AT EXHIBIT E TO SEE THE AREAS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ADDITIONAL HEIGHT AND DENSITY.SO, UM, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING CONSISTENT WITH THE DOWNTOWN AREA PLAN, UH, BUILDING HEIGHT OF 60 FEET AND SUPPORTING THE DMU CEO'S ZONING.
UM, THE, WOW, WE DID SOME ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS AND, UM, LOOKED AT A THOUSAND FOOT BUFFER AROUND THE REZONING SITE.
THERE WERE SIX, UH, 36 ZONING CASES IN THAT AREA FIELD WAS NARROWED TO 18 BY CHOOSING THE CASES THAT OCCURRED AFTER THE DOWNTOWN AREA PLAN WAS PASSED IN 2011, THERE WERE 18 LEFT, THEN LIMITED BY THE DMU ZONING CASES.
THERE WERE 12, WELL, THOSE EXPIRED BEFORE COUNCIL ACTION OF THE 10 REMAINING, THERE WERE EIGHT, THE RECEIVED EMU CEO WITH A 60 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT, ONE THAT RECEIVED EMU CEO WITH A 40 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT, AND ONE THAT RECEIVED DMU CEO WITH A 90 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT.
THAT ONE WAS BASED ON A MAP AMENDMENT THAT MAPPED IT INTO A DIFFERENT AREA, WHICH WAS THE SHOAL CREEK AREA THAT PERMITS 90 FEET AND WAS ELIGIBLE FOR A DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS.
SO, UM, MY INTERPRETATION OF THAT IS THAT, UH, YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT WITH THE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA PLAN.
THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA PLAN THAT THE SPECIFIC AREA SHOULD BE SEEKING ADDITIONAL HOUSING, THAT IT WAS AT ONE TIME HOUSING, BUT ALL THE LITTLE HOUSES HAVE BECOME OFFICES.
AND, UH, IN THAT RESPECT, THIS PROPOSAL IS, UM, UH, CONSISTENT WITH THE IMAGINE AUSTIN PLAN.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, YEAH, THE APPLICANT, UH, LET'S SEE, WE HAVE, UH, AMANDA SWORE GOOD EVENING CHAIR.
CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? YES, I CAN.
IF SOMEONE COULD JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN MY PRESENTATION IS UP, I WOULD BEGIN.
UM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS AMANDA SWORE WITH DRAENOR GROUP AND I AM HERE THIS EVENING REPRESENTING THE EIGHT, 12 LEFT 11TH STREET PROJECT KNOWN AS SHELF CYCLE.
THIS SITE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH AN OFFICE COMPLEX THAT IS SHOWN ON THE TOP LEFT OF THE SCREEN.
AND OUR REZONING REQUEST THIS EVENING IS TO RETURN THE PROPERTY TO DOWNTOWN MIXED USE WITH A 90 FOOT CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.
HIS STAFF MENTIONED THAT ALSO MENTIONED THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, BUT WANTING TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT TO 60 FEET, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU SUPPORT THE ZONING TO 90 FEET HEIGHT LIMITATIONS ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THE SCREEN.
YOU WILL NOTE THAT THE PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE RECENTLY APPROVED
THE SITE IS ALSO LOCATED IN EXTREMELY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE SHOAL CREEK TRAIL, SOUTH LAMAR, AUSTIN, COMMUNITY COLLEGE, AND MANY OTHER COMMUNITY ASSETS.
THE SHELF CYCLE PROJECT WILL MEET A WORKFORCE HOUSING NEED BY PROVIDING ALL THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM UNITS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO RENT BY ADULTS ON A PER BEDROOM BASIS.
MY CLIENT TOOK ON A GOAL OF PROVIDING MISSING MIDDLE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THAT BOSTON IS CLEARLY LACKING AS PART OF THE SCHOOL.
THIS PROJECT IS ALSO LOOKING TO DEVELOP THE GREENEST POSSIBLE BUILDING WHILE ALSO PROVIDING FOR A MULTIMODAL TRANSIT OPTIONS AND AN AREA OF TOWN THAT A STAFF MENTIONED PER PLANNING IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF ADDITIONAL HOUSING OR HOUSING.
THE CONCEPT OF WORKFORCE HOUSING AND PROVIDING ROOMS THAT ARE RENTABLE TO ADULT ROOMMATES IS SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN TREATED YET IN THE AUSTIN MARKET BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENCE IN UNIT MIX.
AND NON-TRADITIONAL WAYS OF THESE THINGS ARE CONDUCTED.
WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF RAISE EYEBROWS ALONG THE WAY WITH THIS PROJECT INFORMATION ON THE SCREEN IS ABOUT THE CAPITAL QUARTERS PROJECT THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED FOR OUR CLIENT.
JEN, WHO WILL TALK IN A MINUTE AND IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH AN ANTICIPATED DELIVERY DATE OF JANUARY, 2020, THE CAPITAL QUARTERS PROJECT WILL PROVIDE THE FIRST CO
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I'M SORRY, THE FIRST WORKFORCE TO LIVE IN HOUSING THAT OFTEN DESPERATELY NEEDS SHOWING THAT THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT CAN BE BUILT AND DONE SUCCESSFULLY.THE CAPITAL QUARTERS PROJECT WILL ALSO BE THE FIRST MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT IN AUSTIN TO PROVIDE NO ONSITE PARKING NEXT SLIDE FOR YOU TO FOCUS ON THE SHORT CYCLE PROJECT.
IF GRANTED THE DMU 90 ZONING, THIS PROJECT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT 73 BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM UNITS THAT WILL PROVIDE A TOTAL OF 210 BEDROOMS FOR RENT.
THE TERM WORKFORCE HOUSING IS OFTEN THROWN AROUND WORKFORCE HOUSING AT ITS CORE PROVIDES HOUSING FOR INDIVIDUALS MAKING BETWEEN 80% AND 120% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.
THIS IS OFTEN ALSO REFERRED TO AS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, BECAUSE IT IS JUST THAT THERE IS OFTEN LOW INCOME RESTRICTED HOUSING AND STANDARD MARKET HOUSING THAT INDIVIDUALS MAKING THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME CAN EITHER NOT QUALIFY FOR OR CANNOT AFFORD THE ABILITY TO FIND HOUSING FOR THESE INCOME BRACKETS THAT IS LOCATED IN THE URBAN CORE IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE.
THE PROJECT AGAIN IS DESI IS DESIGNED FOR ADULT ROOMMATES, WHERE EACH ROOMMATE WOULD PRAY AND PAY APPROXIMATELY $1,400 A MONTH FOR A ROOM WITHIN THE THREE BEDROOM UNIT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMPARABLE ONE BEDROOM AND STUDIO UNITS IN THE AREA, WE STRUGGLED TO FIND ANYTHING OTHER THAN EXTREMELY OLD HOUSING STOCK THAT IS ANYWHERE NEAR TO $2,000 A MONTH FOR A STUDIO AND MANY ONE BEDROOM UNIT.
AND THE NEWER STUDIOS THAT START AT $2,500 UPWARDS OF $4,400 A MONTH, MAKING THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS UNAFFORDABLE FOR ANYBODY IN THE WORKFORCE HOUSING CLASSIFICATION.
IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING WORKFORCE HOUSING, THIS PROJECT IS PURSUING SOME AMAZING SUSTAINABILITY TEACHERS, INCLUDING PURSUIT OF AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDER IN A FIVE STAR LEVEL.
THIS PROJECT IS ALSO PROVIDING SOLAR PANELS.
SO THIS IS THE PRODUCT CAN GENERATE ITS OWN ELECTRICITY AND GAS COGENERATION.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, TO WRAP UP THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW THOSE MAKING THE MEDIAN INCOME IN THE CITY TO LIVE WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY, TO JOBS IN TRANSIT FOR THE ABILITY TO LIVE A TRUE CAR FLEET FREE LIFESTYLES, WITH THE ABILITY TO GET THOSE BICYCLES, INDUSTRIAL AND CLOSE WALKING PROXIMITY TO MANY JOBS AND SERVICES AS SUCH.
THIS PROJECT IS PROPOSING MORE BICYCLE PARKING THAN VEHICLE PARKING WITH 58 VEHICLE PARKING SPACES BEING PROPOSED, ALL OF THEM LOCATED BELOW GRADE AND ALL OF THEM DECOUPLED FROM UNIT.
THIS PROJECT IS ALSO PROPOSING A LEASEABLE GROUND FLOOR WITH, UH, ENHANCED SIDEWALK TREATMENTS ALONG 11TH STREET.
AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE FEATURES A HYDROPONIC VEGETABLE GARDEN IN THE STAIRWELL.
IT ALLOWS RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PURCHASE THE VETS, THE VEGETABLE BASKET.
IN SUMMARY, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR OUR, FOR THE REQUEST IS SUBMITTED WITH DMU 90 VERSUS STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF CMU 60, WHICH IS BASED ON A DECADE OLD PLAN THAT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE MORE RECENT PLANNING PRACTICES AND SUPPORT THE ABILITY TO HAVE WORKFORCE HOUSING ADJACENT TO A PROPERTY THAT IS ALREADY ZONED FOR
AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO STOP AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I DO HAVE I'M JEN WEAVER WITH WEAVER BUILDERS THAT WILL FOLLOW ME AND ADDRESS SOME ADDITIONAL PIECES OF THIS PRESENTATION.
SO MOVING ON TO THE, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR, I GUESS, UM, WE HAVE JEN WEAVER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
KAIA, CAN YOU HEAR US? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEFINE WORKFORCE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
UM, TODAY PEOPLE ARE SPENDING MORE TIME ON THEIR EDUCATION OR CAREER EXPLORATION BEFORE CREATING FAMILY UNIT.
IF AT ALL, THEY MAY PURSUE GRADUATE SCHOOL FOCUSED ON EARNING PROMOTIONS OR FINDING THEIR ARTISTIC PASSIONS.
PEOPLE MARRY LATER, THEY SINGLE LONGER OFTEN WELL INTO THEIR THIRTIES.
BEING SINGLE AND FOCUSED ON WORK CAN CREATE LONELINESS.
SOCIETALY WE HAVE AN EPIDEMIC OF LONELINESS.
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THE GREAT HOUSING STOCK IS A PART OF THE PROBLEM IN DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.RESIDENTIAL OPTIONS DID NOT LARGELY UNTIL 2000 PAINTING IN CONDOS AND APARTMENTS HAD BEEN URBAN FEATURES, HAD URBAN FEATURES ON THE GROUND FLOOR OR BUILDING MAPPINGS, BUT THE UNITS THEMSELVES WERE SUBURBAN SCALED, LARGER SIZES CREATE MORE EXPENSIVE POTS TO RESIDENTS.
UNIT MIXES WERE LARGELY DEFINED BY WHAT THAT WOULD FIND YET STUDIOS AND ONE BEDROOMS WITH A FEW, TWO BEDROOMS AND MORE RECENT LUXURY BUILDINGS.
THERE ARE A FEW THREE BEDROOMS, BUT THE SIZE IS QUITE LARGE AND THEY RUN AT SIX TO 10,000 A MONTH.
WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OLDER THE LINKS DOCK TO BE CONVERTED INTO LOCKS FOR REALLY CARE, LIKE THE SHOW FRIENDS, WHICH IS COMMON IN OLDER CITIES, 7, 7 0 1 HOLDS THE MOST EXPENSIVE RESIDENTIAL RENT IN THE STATE.
FOR EXAMPLE, NEW MICRO UNIT, ONE BEDROOMS AND STUDIOS START AT 2,500 A MONTH.
SHE'LL CYCLE IS A PART OF THE SOLUTION TO HOUSING AUSTIN'S WORKFORCE FOR A FULLY OCCUPIED THREE BEDROOMS. EACH ROOMMATE RENT WOULD BE 1400 A MONTH.
THE ILLUSTRATION SHOWS THAT IN OUR URBAN SCALED THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT UNIT, ALL THE ROOMMATES CAN HANG OUT AND EAT AT THE KITCHEN, ENJOY A TV SHOW IN THE LIVING ROOM OR SPEND TIME ALONE AND THEIR OWN BEDROOMS. EACH BEDROOM IS LARGE ENOUGH FOR IT THAT A CLOSET AND A QUEEN BED WITH A NIGHTSTAND RENTERS COULD BE THREE ROOMMATES OR TWO ROOMMATES AND A HOME OFFICE, OR A COUPLE IN TWO SEPARATE OFFICES BY NOT OVERDESIGNING THE YOUTH, OUR RESIDENTS CAN DECIDE HOW THEY WANT TO UTILIZE THEIR SPACE BY NOT OVERSIZING.
THE SPACE WE REMIND RESIDENTS, THE CITY IS THE LIVING ROOM LIGHT AGE.
THE VISION IS PLACEMAKING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
WE SEE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PLACEMAKING WITH ART STREET FURNITURE AND PROGRAMMING TO CREATE A DESTINATION FOR OUR STAKEHOLDERS.
WE'RE HOLDING CONVERSATIONS WITH TOLL CREEK CONSERVANCY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATES.
AND TO GUIDE OUR OFFERINGS, WE WANT TO BUILD AMENITIES THAT WILL BE USED.
WE HAVE A 38 33 AND HERITAGE TREE ON OUR SITE THAT WE WILL DONATE THE SHOAL CREEK CONSERVANCY, PULLMAN AND ASSOCIATES IS COORDINATING PLACEMAKING AROUND YOU SURROUNDING THE TREE, LIKE AN OUTDOOR CLASSROOM DINING AREA, OR, UM, PLAY TIME.
THE VISION, THE CITY IS THE LIVING ROOM TO BE THE MOST LIVABLE CITY IN AUSTIN NEEDS TO OFFER A RANGE OF HOUSING TYPOLOGIES DOWNTOWN.
SO CYCLE IS JUST A PIECE OF THAT SOLUTION, BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE.
STATE EMPLOYEES, INTERN, BARTENDERS, TEACHERS, WAITER, IT'S YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, ARTISTS, LIBRARIANS, AND FIFE FIREFIGHTERS ARE VITAL OPERATORS IN OUR URBAN CORE.
AND RIGHT NOW THERE ARE FEW OPTIONS FOR THEM TO LIVE IN OUR URBAN FOREST SOUL CYCLE PROPOSAL, 210 SPOT FOR OUR VITAL CITY OPERATORS AND A LOCATION WHERE THEY CAN WALK AND RIDE THEIR BIKES TO WORK THE LIBRARY.
UT AT THE CAPITOL RESTAURANTS, CONCERTS AND PARK CITY IS THE LIVING ROOM RATHER THAN LEASING BY FATALITY ON PARKING GAS AND CAR PAYMENTS RESIDENTS OF SHORT CYCLE CAN SPEND THEIR TIME AND MONEY ENRICHING DEADLINES AND ALL OF OUR LIGHTS AND OUR CITY'S GREAT GREATEST ASSET, THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CREATE TOGETHER.
UM, NEXT WE HAVE, UM, CAROLINE BAILEY AND, UH, YOU'LL BE GIVEN SIX MINUTES.
I BELIEVE THAT CAROLINE WAS, IS CURRENTLY STUCK ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD WITH PEOPLE TO SWITCH OVER THIS SUMMER.
WE HAD MS. BAILEY ON THE LINE F SHELLAC STAR SIX, OR ALSO MUTE ON MUTE.
UM, I I'M HERE, BUT THE HEAR ME NOW.
UM, HI, MY NAME IS CAROLINE DAILY.
I'M THINKING TO GIVE MY ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT IN FAVOR OF GRANTING DMU NINE, GET THE SHELF STABLE.
I'M A BOARD NUMBER OR A LOCAL URBAN IS OPPOSITE THE ORGANIZATION.
AND REMEMBER THE CITY PEDESTRIAN VIJAY COUNCIL, BUT I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF TONIGHT.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT TACKLING A HOUSING CRISIS OUT OF HOMELESSNESS CRISIS AND CLIMATE CHANGE CRISIS, AND PLEASE GET CHOSE BY CALLED DMU
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90 DONATING, WE CAN'T KEEP WATERING DOWN.OR DO YOU THINK THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT ODD ONE OF THIS DILUTION, JOHN MULTIPLE CRISES, I WOULD LOVE TO WORK IN A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, BUT THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE.
I WOULD LOVE TO LIVE DOWNTOWN IN A PLACE WHERE I COULD ACTUALLY AVOID THE EVENT.
UM, I CURRENTLY LIVE NEAR THE TROLL PATRIOT ENTRANCE ON 38TH STREET.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE PUTTING AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN NEXT TO THE TRAIL BECAUSE AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE SHOULD BE, SHOULD HAVE ASKED US TO A TRAIL WITHOUT HAVING TO DRIVE.
UM, I USED TO LIVE OFF THE TAIL NEAR 20 BOYS STREET AND I WOULD FREQUENTLY WALK DOWN THE TRAIL TO DOWNTOWN MORE PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO I ASKED THEM MULTIPLE BUS LINES NEARBY AND MULTIPLE, UM, AMENITIES TO WALK BY.
WELL, WE'LL TAKE IT TO WELL HOUSING NEAR TRANSIT AND WIN MORE HOUSING IN A HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA IS A WIN.
WHAT HOUSING IN GENERAL IS A WIN.
HOW DID THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS? THERE'S ONLY ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT IS BEING USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES.
IT SEEMS BACKWARDS TO LIMIT THIS DEVELOPMENT DAYS ON THAT ONE HOME WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD PROVIDE BOOMI MORE HOME FOR SO MANY MORE PEOPLE, I'M A RENTER.
AND IT'S REALLY DISAPPOINTING TO SEE THIS CONSTANT INSTITUTIONAL BELIEF FROM THE CITY AND OTHERS.
THE APARTMENTS ARE INFERIOR TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, I THINK WILL BE ONLY HOME TO BE PROTECTIVE WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD NEVER OWN A HOME WELL, WHO MAY NEVER BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO BUY A HOME AND THEY SAY IT'D BE CONSIDERED LESS IMPORTANT THAN HOMEOWNERS I MAKE BETWEEN 50,000 TO $60,000 A YEAR.
AND THIS DEVELOPMENT POSSIBLY TARGETED TOWARDS PEOPLE IN MY INCOME BACK.
FINALLY, THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN CALLS THEM ONE OF ACCIDENT IN THE NORTHWEST IS A GREAT WAY TO BRAIN TO DISCUSS IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION TODAY.
UH, NEXT I HAVE MARSHALL GEIER UH, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
YES, I CAN'T NAME IS MARSHALL GUYER AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT FULL CYCLES REZONING TO DMU 90 TO CREATE MORE WORKFORCE HOUSING DOWNTOWN.
UM, SO MY FIANCE AND I ACTUALLY ARE HOMEOWNERS OF A CONDO UNIT DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO SHOW SHUL CYCLE, UH, AND THE TERRORIST ON SHOAL CREEK BUILDING.
AND WE'VE DIRECTLY EXPERIENCED THE NUMEROUS BENEFITS OF LIVING ON THIS STREET, UH, IN A WALKABLE COMMUNITY LIKE THIS.
UM, SO IN GENERAL, I'M PAINFULLY AWARE OF HOW DIFFICULT THAT CURRENTLY IS FOR MANY OTHERS IN AUSTIN TO OPTIMIZE THEIR HOME AND WORK LOGISTICS, TO HAVE A CAR-FREE LIFESTYLE LIKE WE DO.
UM, BUT I THINK DOWNTOWN IS THE BEST PLACE TO DO THIS.
AND SO BECAUSE OF THIS, I'M ALWAYS THRILLED TO SEE MORE ATTAINABLE RESIDENTIAL OPTIONS CREATED ANYWHERE IN DOWNTOWN.
UM, BUT PARTICULARLY IN AREAS LIKE WEST DOWNTOWN THAT HAVE LONG BEEN PLAGUED BY OBSTACLES LIKE PHONING RESTRICTIONS, PARKING GARAGES, AND SURFACE LEVEL PARKING LOTS.
UM, SO BECAUSE OF ALL OF THIS, I'M SUPER EXCITED TO SEE THIS PLAN FOR THE ALMOST ABANDONED LOT NEXT DOOR TO US THAT WOULD DEEPLY ENRICH THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, BE A BIG FORCE IN THE MOVEMENT AWAY FROM CARS AND AUSTIN, UH, HELPED FIGHT THE ALARMING HOUSING CRISIS THAT IS REALLY HARMING AUSTIN RESIDENCES FOR AUSTIN RESIDENTS AND CONTINUING TO GET WORSE, UH, PROVIDE SUSTAINABLE HOUSING, PROVIDES SUSTAINABLE OPPORTUNITY FOR WORKING CLASS FOLKS, ADD SOME USEFUL RESELLS TO THE AREA AND ULTIMATELY EXTEND ALL OF THE PRIVILEGES THAT WE HAVE ENJOYED LIVING ON THE STREET TO A LOT MORE PEOPLE.
AUSTIN CAN'T RETAIN ITS CHARM.
IF THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE CITY GREAT CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.
UM, I CAN'T IMAGINE THIS REZONING WOULD CAUSE MANY REASONABLE ISSUES FOR THE SINGLE RESIDENTIAL HOUSE ON THE STREET, BUT EVEN SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT COSTS WOULD BE HEAVILY OUTWEIGHED BY THE SUBSTANTIAL LONG-TERM HOUSING RELIEF.
THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD PROVIDE AUSTIN RESIDENTS WITH WITHOUT PROGRESSIVE PLANS LIKE SOUL CYCLE BEING ALLOWED TO INNOVATE THE AREA.
UM, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS DOOMED TO CONTINUE ITS HISTORIC HOUSE TURN LAW OFFICE, UM, AREA W THAT, THAT IS IN A LOT OF WAYS, THE VOID OF OPPORTUNITY, DENSITY AND COMMUNITY, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN THE COUNTRY.
UM, AND FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, I THINK REZONING SHE'LL CYCLE TO DME WOULD BE A FANTASTIC MOVE TO CONTINUE CONVERTING OUR NORTHWEST DOWNTOWN STREET FROM MORE OF LIKE A HISTORIC RELIC AREA INTO MORE OF A COMMUNITY.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE DAN SIT, UH, YOU SAID
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YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES STAR, SIX, 10 MEET.THIS IS AMANDA FOR AGAIN, I JUST RECEIVED A TEXT FROM DAN THAT HE GOT DISCONNECTED AND IS TRYING TO CALL BACK IN AND ASKED IF I WOULD LET YOU KNOW, OKAY.
ANDREW, IF WE JUST HAVE A MINUTE, JUST LET IT GET SITUATED BACK INTO THE ROOM, MR. CASSETTE, IF YOU'LL A NOW SELECT STAR SIX AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REMARKS.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'VE HAD ON ME AND I GOT DISCONNECTED IN JUST BEING, YEAH, YOU'RE PERFECT TIMING.
SO I AM A NEIGHBOR OF THE PROJECT.
I LIVE ABOUT FOUR BLOCKS OVER.
I WALKED BY REGULARLY AND WITH MY DAUGHTER AND MY EARLY MORNING WALKS.
UM, IT'S A FANTASTIC PLACE TO LIVE.
UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PEOPLE I'VE MENTIONED, IT'S CLOSE TO A MILLION RESTAURANTS, A MILLION JOBS, UM, THE SHOAL CREEK TRAIL TAKES YOU RIGHT TO THE LIBRARY.
UH, IT TAKES YOU RIGHT TO A BILLION, YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS TO DO GO DOWN TO THE RIVER.
I, AND, BUT IT DOESN'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE 34TH FLOOR IN ORDER TO LIVE HERE.
UM, BUT THE BIGGEST DOWN, UM, THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT WE HAVE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD IS, UH, YOU KNOW, AS A STAFF MEMBER, I HAD MR. GRAHAM BROUGHT UP THAT THIS WAS BUILT AS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT MANY RESIDENTS.
UM, THERE'S A TON OF THE OLD BUILDINGS HERE THAT WERE BUILT AS RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN TRANSFORMED INTO OFFICE.
AND SO IT WAS ONCE A THRIVING, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY WITH PEOPLE WALKING AROUND IS NOW LIKE A DRIVE IN LOW, LOW SLUNG OFFICE PARKS.
AND I THINK THAT THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD DO SO MUCH TO BRING NEW NEIGHBORS, NEW LIFE, NEW ACTIVITY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEN I'M WALKING AROUND, I CAN SEE PEOPLE WAVE HI, HAVE NEIGHBORS HAVE PEOPLE TO CHAT WITH AND, YOU KNOW, MEET AT THE PARK.
AND I, I JUST, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH PROJECTS LIKE THIS REALLY FULFILL THE VISION, IF NOT THE LETTER OF THE DOWNTOWN OF THE DOWNTOWN PLANS, NORTHWEST DISTRICT.
SO I REALLY HOPE YOU VOTE FOR IT.
UM, NEXT, UH, AND I MIGHT NEED A LITTLE HELP GETTING THE SAME, RIGHT, KATE, UH, IS THAT NETSCAPE NICE SKI START, SIX, 10 MEET.
I'M JUST A MEMBER OF THE APPLICANT TEAM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
UH, YEAH, THANKS FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
SO WE HAVE, UH, I'M GOING TO READ THE LIST.
I THINK THESE ARE ALL MEMBERS OF THE APPLICANT'S TEAM.
UH, LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK.
WE HAVE SHELLY MITCHELL, MARISSA MCKINNEY, JONATHAN PEARSON, KATIE STEWART.
UH, DO ANY OF YOU WISH TO SPEAK OR JUST BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS? UH, JUST LET ME, UH, JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK AND, UH, WE'LL GIVE YOU TIME.
AMANDA, WE, WE ARE WITH OUR PRESENTATION.
EVERYONE ELSE IS ON TO ANSWER, PLEASE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? UH, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COX.
UH, WHEN CHAIR, COMMISSIONER, THERE WAS AN OPPOSITION SPEAKERS.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS THREE MINUTES.
DO YOU WANT TO USE YOUR THREE MINUTES? UM, NO, THANK YOU CHAIR.
WE APPRECIATE ALL THE CITIZENS TAKING THE TIME TO SPEAK.
WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH EVERYTHING THEY SAID.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
UH, LET'S GO AND TRY THAT AGAIN.
UH, MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING, UH, COMMISSIONER
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UNDER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COX.UM, I'M LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM.
UH, COMMISSIONER YANNIS, POLITO.
LET'S DO, UH, COMMISSIONER CODDLEY.
SO, UH, QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONER COX.
DID I SEE ANOTHER HAND ASK COMMISSIONER MR. TODDLER? UH, ALL THOSE CONDITIONER TRUNKS.
YEAH, I CAN'T BE MR. AND MRS. CALLER AND COMMISSIONERS ARE NOW KIND OF WEIRD, BUT, UH, ANYWAYS, UM, I WAS CURIOUS IF THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT, I GUESS.
UM, I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE EXISTING USE IS THE REPORT VISITED OFFICE, BUT THAT IT'S ALSO ZONED
UM, D DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY EXISTING RESIDENTS LIVING IN THAT APARTMENT BUILDING RIGHT NOW? UH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.
IT IS CURRENTLY AN OFFICE BUILDING.
THIS WOULD NOT CAUSE ANY DISPLACEMENT.
THE ZONING IS JUST THREE SEPARATE CATEGORIES THAT KIND OF CRISSCROSS ACROSS THE SITE, BUT IT IS OCCUPIED AS AN OFFICE.
AND THEN ONE THING I NOTICED WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE STREET VIEW, I THINK IT'S SO EMBARRASSING THAT WE'VE GOT AREAS OF DOWNTOWN.
UM, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT EARLY AND THIS IS TYPICALLY DONE DURING SITE PLAN, BUT DO YOU INTEND TO BUILD OUT FOUR OR FIVE WALKS ALONG THIS, ALONG THE EDGE OF YOUR PROPERTY? YES, SIR.
UM, FULL SIDEWALKS AND, AND LARGER SIDEWALKS THAN WHAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF, UM, FOOT AND BICYCLE TRAFFIC WE ANTICIPATE IN THE AREA.
UH, AND THEN, I GUESS LAST QUESTION FOR YOU IS I SAW A THING IN THERE ABOUT 70 OVER BICYCLE SPACES, WHICH, UH, I GUESS EQUALS ONE PER UNIT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO THIS SIMILAR TO KIND OF LIKE STUDENT APARTMENT HOUSING.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO LIKE A LEASE PER BEDROOM.
UM, AND IF THAT'S THE CASE POWER, IS, IS THE BICYCLE PARKING JUST BASICALLY FIRST COME FIRST SERVE? OR ARE YOU DEDICATING THAT OR GIVING, UH, GIVING IT UP SOMEHOW? UM, I CAN LET ME TAKE A STAB AT IT.
AND THEN IF SOMEONE ON THE ARCHITECT TEAM WANTS TO CORRECT ME, UM, I'LL, I'LL LET THEM DO THAT.
SO THE 70 BICYCLE SPACES WILL BE COVERED AND PART OF THE PROJECT, BUT THERE ALSO WILL BE, AND THAT'S WHAT'S WITHIN THE GARAGE, BUT THERE ALSO WILL BE OTHER SPACES, UM, ALONG THE BUILDING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL BICYCLE PARKING.
UM, SO, SO THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL BICYCLE PARKING, IF MORE THAN ONE BEDROOM PER UNIT NEEDS THE PARK, A BICYCLE AT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX CALLED SHELF CYCLE.
HI, THIS IS JEN, THE DEVELOPER.
UM, YEAH, SO YOU'RE VERY EXPENSIVE BICYCLES PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE MORE THAN A $500.
I IMAGINE THAT THOSE PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO TAKE THEIR BICYCLES TO THEIR UNIT JUST BECAUSE THE BICYCLE FAST IS AN ISSUE.
UM, AND, AND ANYONE WHO'S RIGHT PROTECTIVE OF THEIR BIKE WOULD, WOULD DO THAT.
BUT SOMEONE WHO HAS MORE COMPLETE COMMUTERS STYLE BIKES, LIKE IN THE $500 RANGE WOULD PROBABLY KEEP IT AS A RESIDENT STORAGE THAT'S COVERED.
AND THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY, UM, PARKING FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE USING THE COMMERCIAL SPACE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UH, AND THEN I'VE GOT ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF, WHICH IS ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN PLANNING DOCUMENT THAT GUIDED, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION.
UM, IT ALWAYS BOTHERS ME, UM, WHEN, WHEN IT, WHEN WE'VE GOT THESE PLANNING DOCUMENTS, BUT, UM, BUT NOBODY FROM STAFF SEEMS TO WANT TO FOLLOW THEM.
AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, UH, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS UNFORTUNATELY, IS, IS A LIFETIME, UH, AND IN AUSTIN'S RECENT HISTORY.
UM, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A PLAN UPDATE TO THAT DOWNTOWN PLAN ANYTIME SOON? OH, MARK GRAHAM STAFF.
I DO NOT KNOW OF A PLAY AND UPDATE.
UM, YES, THE PLAN WAS WRITTEN IN A VERY DIFFERENT ERA AND, UM, KIND OF HAMSTRINGS US FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION.
I'M LOOKING AT, UH, EXHIBIT E, WHICH APPEARS TO BE SHOWING NIGHTCAP OR,
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OH, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE DOWNTOWN PLAN.THAT'S PART OF THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS HIGH CAP RECOMMENDED IN THE PLAN.
UM, BUT THAT'S HIGH CAPTURE ON EXHIBIT C.
I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT IF, IF I, I HAVE A FEELING THAT IS GOING TO GET APPROVED AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING TO UPDATE THAT PLAN SOMETIME SOON.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, MR. KELLER.
I, UM, MS. WEAVER, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS IS, THIS IS TERRIFIC.
THIS IS JUST THE KIND OF THING, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE COMMISSION WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OF, UM, THE S THE CHOSEN SITE IS GREAT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IMPACTING EXISTING RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HEARING FROM THE AROUND IN COMMUNITY THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE IT REVITALIZED A BIT WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE, THE AERIALS AND EVERYTHING, AND WE'RE FIVE OR SIX BLOCKS FROM THE STATE CAPITOL.
SO THE WALKABILITY AND THE TRANSIT AND EVERYTHING IS, IS REALLY GREAT.
SO, UM, MY COMPLIMENTS ON THE PROJECT, UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THANK YOU STAFF FOR EXPLAINING HOW YOU WERE A LITTLE HANDICAPPED TO BE ABLE TO GRANT THEM THE, UM, UH, TO GO UP TO THE 90 FEET IN HEIGHT THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR ON THIS PROJECT, UM, IS ON THE PRICING MODEL.
SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, WHEN WE DO OUR ZONING, IF WE APPROVE A PROJECT LIKE THIS, NONE OF THAT GETS TIED TO OUR, UM, ZONING AUTHORIZATION IN.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, HOW WE KNOW FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THAT'S GOING TO GET EXECUTED THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE END OF THE PROJECT.
MY OTHER CONCERN IS JUST DOING A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AND WHAT'S AROUND AND WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT WORK AND THAT KIND OF THING.
I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT USING THAT $60,000 FIGURE FOR A ROOM IS STILL A LITTLE BIT HIGH FOR A LOT OF EARNINGS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE'S WAGES DOWNTOWN.
SO, UM, MY, MY ASK IS IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY TO GET EVEN SOME MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS IN THERE, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL GO UP TO 90 FEET IN HEIGHT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
UM, UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THERE SOME VERY EXPENSIVE STUFF COMING AROUND, BUT IF WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET WORKFORCE HOUSING, I JUST, I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WORK IN MY LINE OF BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE NOT COMING NEAR 60 K.
UM, SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM, AND THIS WAS JUST ONE PIECE OF THE SOLUTION, RIGHT? UM, MY PROJECT IS NOT, THIS, THE STRUCTURE IS NOT RECOGNIZED BY AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAM, CAPITAL, A AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS. I CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN ANY VOUCHER PROGRAMS, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ROOMMATES ARE NOT RECOGNIZED AS HOUSEHOLDS BY HUD.
UM, I TALKED TO TEXAS HOUSING COMMISSION AND TEXTED T SHOCK.
WE'VE GONE IN REALLY FUN THE WHEELS, UM, ON HOW TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF I'M, IF I'M NOT ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING FINANCING, THEN WHY WOULD I COMMIT TO A RENT RESTRICTION WHEN I'M HAVING TO GO GET MARKET RATE HOUSING? UM, I THRIVE MARKET RATE FINANCING, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTA BE ABLE TO ADJUST WITH THE FINANCING THAT I HAVE TO TAKE THAT I HAVE TO GET FOR THE, THE, TO MAKE THE SORT OF HOUSING SOLUTION.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I WOULD JUST ADD, I, AND I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE PROJECT HAS TAKEN, YOU KNOW, 60,000 IS KIND OF THE, THE ROUGH NUMBER THAT WAS THROWN OUT, BUT SOME OF THE MECHANISMS THAT THIS PROJECT HAS TAKEN WILL REALLY ALLOW THOSE NUMBERS TO POTENTIALLY GO MUCH SLOWER.
UM, THE ABILITY TO TRULY HAVE A CAR-FREE HOUSEHOLD, LESS, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT CHANGES THE AMOUNT OF RENT THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO, TO SPEND SO THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
SO 60,000 IS THE NUMBER THAT WAS THROWN OUT, BUT IT COULD REALLY GO TO LOWER NUMBERS THAN THAT AS THINGS GO THROUGH.
SO, UM, IF I STILL HAVE SOME TIME LEFT, THEN I'D LIKE TO THROW A QUESTION AT OUR STAFF AND IT MAY BE A LEARNING OPPORTUNITY FOR ME.
UM, WHY, UM, IS IT ZONING OR WHAT'S HOLDING US BACK FROM BEING ABLE TO, TO USE AFFORDABLE OPPORTUNITIES WITH THIS PROJECT? LIKE THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE DENSITY NOTICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS THAT BY ZONING OR W WHERE ARE WE GETTING STUCK ON THIS? SO THE, THE DENSITY BONUS, UM, IT'S BECAUSE
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IT WAS MAPPED AS AN AREA THAT'S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE DENSITY BONUS.UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE, THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS SUCH AS AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED, BUT I BELIEVE WHAT I JUST HEARD, UM, WAS THAT THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE BECAUSE OF THIS, UH, LEASE BY BEDROOM ARRANGEMENT.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.
ALTHOUGH I HAVE YEARS OF WORKING WITH PLANNING AND HOUSING PROGRAMS, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE A REAL OBSTACLE, UM, TO THE FINANCING.
AND MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PURSUED ALONG THOSE LINES TO PARTNER WITH HER AND, AND ADVOCATE FOR THIS TYPE OF HOUSING, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL SOLVE HER HOUSING.
UH, COMMISSIONER, JUST A QUICK REMINDER IN A COMMISSIONER, SHAY, YOU HAVE THE NEXT QUESTION, BUT, UM, I THINK I POSTED THIS LAST TIME.
WE ARE DESPERATELY NEEDING TO, YOU KNOW, USE OUR TIME WISELY.
AND I KNOW WE, ALL OF US HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE GET MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE GROUND.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE, BUT, UH, FOR THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF OUTSIDE OUR SCOPE AND PURVIEW, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST PLEASE ASK YOU TO TRY TO FOCUS ON WHAT WE CAN CONTROL WITHIN, WITHIN OUR, WITHIN THE, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR CHARTER, UH, WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT WE CAN'T DO.
UM, BUT, UH, PLEASE LET'S TRY TO USE OUR TIME WISELY.
UM, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME, AND I WANT TO DEFINITELY THANK THOSE THAT, UH, CAME OUT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF IT, ESPECIALLY TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE AREA WAS ONCE BEFORE, LIKE WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT HOUSES AND A LOT OF RESIDENCES, AND WE ARE HAVING LOTS OF THAT.
SO I DO SEE THE BIG BENEFIT OF IT.
MY, MY KIDDOS, THEY SKATE MY KIDS' SKATEBOARDS AT HOUSE PARK, AND I FIND GOING ALL THE WAY DOWNTOWN.
SO I KNOW FROM THAT LOCATION, YOU COULD GET ANYWHERE, NOT EVEN WITH A BICYCLE.
SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WONDERFUL, BUT, UM, BUT THEN TALKING ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN ASPECT OF IT.
SO BEING THAT THIS IS GMU, WHAT TYPE, I MEAN, ARE YOU REQUIRED TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THE GREAT STREETS ARE COMMITMENT TO TYPE OF, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER COX TALKED ABOUT JUST THE SIDEWALKS, BUT THERE ARE, THERE IS LEVELS OF QUALITY OF WHAT THAT PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.
I KIND OF WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING TO CREATE THAT PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE FROM THE, YOU KNOW, THE ACTIVATED STREET FRONT, YOU KNOW, THAT POTENTIALLY WE COULD GET, OR, YOU KNOW, GREAT STREETS TYPE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE STRUCTURE AROUND, I MEAN, IS THAT ANY OF THE PLANS THAT'S GOING TO BE HELPING THE AREA THAT IT'S IN, UH, IN THE CONCEPT? WELL, AGAIN, UH, AGAIN, CHRISTIAN, LET ME TAKE A STAB AT IT.
AND SOMEONE ON THE APPLICANT TEAM WANTS TO CHIME IN.
UM, BUT YES, THE, THE PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN HIGHLY FOCUSED ON, UM, IT WILL BE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH SUBCHAPTER E IT WILL HAVE INTEGRATED, UH, GROUND FLOOR USES.
SO THE GROUND FLOOR AREA HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO BE LOOSELY LEASEABLE AS, UH, AS A PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE.
AND AS A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USE, UH, THERE WILL ALSO BE OUTDOOR SEATING AREAS, BICYCLE AREAS, SCOOTERS, CHARGING STATIONS.
THERE'S A BIG EMPHASIS ON A GREEN BELT ENVIRONMENT ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
AND THEN I'M GOING TO KIND OF, SO WHAT, YOU KNOW, MY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS, LET'S SAY WE GET YOUR ID EMU 90, AND THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND YOU SELL THE PROJECT.
SOMEBODY ELSE JUST DOES SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS THE TYPE OF COMMITMENT THAT WE CAN GET THAT YOU CAN PUT FORTH FOR US TO SUPPORT THIS, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL SUPPORTED THAT, UM, THAT CAN HELP US REALLY GET TO THIS? CAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY WANTS A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT THIS.
SO I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT TYPE OF COMMITMENT IS IN PLACE, UM, THAT YOU COULD SHOW US OR, YOU KNOW, OR PUT TOGETHER FOR US EVEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN BEFORE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT'S A GREAT, ANOTHER GREAT POINT AND SOMETHING THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD A HIGH LEVEL CONVERSATION WITH A COUPLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, MEMBERS ON KIND OF MAKING SURE JUST THAT EXACT POINT, THINGS WITH REGARD TO PARKING, TO USE, TYPE, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S RESIDENTIAL AND THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T COME IN AND BUILD A 90 FOOT OFFICE IN THE AREA.
AND, UM, WE COMMITTED TO THEM TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL.
UM, JUST LIKE THE OTHER DMU 90 PROJECT TO THE NORTH THAT, UM, WILL LIKELY ENTER INTO A PRIVATE, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT FOR THOSE THINGS THAT CANNOT BE INCORPORATED INTO A ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND YOU'LL HAVE THAT READY BEFORE COUNCIL, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.
UM, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR MY QUESTIONS.
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UM, I WAS JUST, I WAS ON THE, UM, THE WORKING GROUP FOR THE DOWNTOWN, UM, UH, PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHEN WE WERE DOING THIS BACK IN 2019.AND SO I PULLED UP MY NOTES BECAUSE I REMEMBER THIS AREA WAS, UM, OF, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S VERY NOTICEABLE, THAT THE NORTHWESTERN AREA OF DOWNTOWN IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS MOVING FORWARD, UM, TO COUNCIL IS, YOU KNOW, AT A MINIMUM INCLUDE THIS AREA AS PART OF THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS.
UM, AND THAT, THAT WORKING GROUP WAS ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT THE, UM, THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN PLAN, UM, BE UPDATED OR, OR AT LEAST FOR EXHIBIT UPDATED TO BE IN LINE WITH HOW DOWNTOWN IS GROWING.
SO IF THAT COMES BACK BEFORE US, I JUST WANT TO, UM, KNOW THAT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DENSITY THAT COULD BE HAD WITHIN DOWNTOWN THAT IT COULD BE CAPTURING HERE.
UM, SO MY QUESTION IS FOR THE APPLICANT AND JUST, JUST ASKING THE QUESTION, THE, WHAT IF THIS WAS LIMITED TO 60 FEET, WHAT DOES THAT DO FOR NUMBER OF UNITS AND AFFORDABILITY? IF YOU COULD TALK THROUGH THAT SCENARIO, THANK YOU FOR, THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION.
SO WITH A REDUCTION TO 60 FEET, IT HAS A REALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT THAT YOU ESSENTIALLY WOULD LOSE, UH, 30 BEDS, WHICH IS 90 UNITS, UM, 90 AFFORDABLE UNITS, IT'S 90 MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.
UM, SO IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE A REDUCTION OF 30 BEDS IN 90 UNITS IF THE PROJECT WERE LIMITED TO 68.
AND, UM, MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR MS. WEAVER.
IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU WOULD STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH AND, AND TRY TO DO THE SAME SUSTAINABLE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, OR WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THAT CONCEPT? UM, THE PROJECT WAS UNDERWRITTEN AND SUPPORTED BY ITS VOLUMES.
SO REDUCING THE VOLUME REDUCES MY CAPACITY TO CREATE THE SAME OFFERINGS.
SO IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT OFFERING, BASICALLY THE PROJECT WOULDN'T WORK.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION WHICH IS, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE IF THEY'RE PREPARED TO ANSWER IT IN WHICH CASE, SO BE IT, BUT THE QUESTION IS I UNDERSTAND THAT FROM LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH THAT, UH, THE, WHEN YOU GO FROM, UH, 60 FEET TO 90 FEET, THE KIND OF THE BUILDING ITSELF CHANGES DRAMATICALLY, THE STYLE OF CONSTRUCTION AND THE KIND OF MATERIALS USED.
UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU HAVE FACTORED IN AND THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? OUR CURRENT BUDGETS ARE REFLECTIVE OF THE BUILDING REQUIREMENTS CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR A HIGH RISE, WHICH THIS WOULD TECHNICALLY BE, AND THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM A 60 FOOT BUILDING IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL MATERIAL USED FOR CONSTRUCTION, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THERE ARE MULTIPLE SYSTEM CHANGES.
UM, THERE'S DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF DIFFICULT TO PARSE OUT ONE THING AND SAY, WHILE THE BUDGET DIFFERENT YEAR, IT'S LIKE, WE MAY HAVE A LOWER CONSTRUCTION BUDGET, BUT WE ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT INCOMES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
SO IT'S REALLY TWO DIFFERENT BUSINESS MODELS.
UM, SO I GUESS I'LL JUST MOVE ON TO MY NEXT QUESTION, WHICH IS, HAVE YOU, IS THE MO HAVE YOU IMPLEMENTED THIS KIND OF, UH, BEDROOM RENTAL MODEL BEFORE? HAS THE APPLICANT DONE THIS ANYWHERE ELSE? YEAH.
UH, CAPITOL QUARTERS IS THE FIRST ITERATION OF THIS.
THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AT 11 WAIT AND LISA, SO THREE BLOCKS AWAY.
UM, THAT PROJECT IS 60 FEET AND WE HAVE 30 UNITS OF FREE BEDROOMS, TWO BATH.
BUT THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT COMPLETE YET.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ONE OF THESE FUNCTIONING CORRECT.
NO, CAUSE I WAS JUST CURIOUS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, HOW THAT PROCESS OF THE BEDROOM, UH, CHOICE WORKS FOR THE, FOR THE TENANTS.
UM, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, IF THAT MODEL HAS BEEN FLESHED OUT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS ALL
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A VERY, VERY NEW CONCEPT THINKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE HOW THE TENANTS CHOOSE THEIR ROOMMATES.SO THIS CONCEPT DOES EXIST IN OTHER PLACES IN THE UNITED STATES.
THIS WILL JUST BE THE FIRST TIME THAT IT COMES TO TO AUSTIN.
AND WHAT THE PROJECT WILL DO IS IT WILL WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT IT NEEDS FAIR HOUSING.
SO PEOPLE WOULD STILL APPLY AS INDIVIDUALS, BUT THEN WOULD BE, THERE WOULD BE, BE MATCHED WITH OTHER ROOMMATES THAT THEY DIDN'T COME, COME WITH ROOMMATES.
SO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS, IT'S NOT THE FIRST ONE IN THE COUNTRY, BUT IT IS THE FIRST ONE IN AUSTIN.
SO THERE ARE MODELS TO LOOK UP THE COAST.
I'M DEFINITELY FAMILIAR WITH THE MODEL BECAUSE I HAVE LIVED IN APARTMENTS LIKE THIS MANY TIMES, UM, WHICH IS WHY I'M ASKING SOME OF MY QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANT TO, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW, UH, HOW MUCH CHOICE TENANTS WILL HAVE AND WHAT KINDS OF VARIETIES OF BEDROOMS, IF IT'S GOING TO BE JUST KIND OF A STANDARD DESIGN FOR EVERYONE, OR IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON OFFERING, UM, DIFFERENT SIZES, DIFFERENT ROOM SIZES AND OPTIONS ALONG A SCALE IS IF THERE'S ANY INFORMATION ON THAT, THAT'D BE SURE.
SO AT CAPITAL QUARTERS WE MADE ALL OF THE UNITS IDENTICAL.
THERE'S NO REAL SIZE DIFFERENTIAL.
UM, SO THEY'RE ALL EXACTLY 1080 SQUARE FEET.
UM, WE ITERATED ON THAT AND A LOT OF TIMES TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS A CERTAIN EQUALITY IN THAT.
UM, BUT YEAH, THEY'RE ALL, UH, SORT OF GIVEN THE SHAPE OF THE SITE.
WE CAN'T MAKE THEM ALL EXACTLY THE SAME.
UM, BUT THE GOAL IS TO GET THEM ALL AT A VERY SAME, UH, OFFERING.
SO THERE'S JUST A REAL EQUITY IN EVERYTHING.
SO EACH UNIT WOULD HAVE THREE BEDROOMS STANDARD.
UM, THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT LET'S GO AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT.
UH, DID YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER CONLEY THAT YOU NEED TO FINISH? OH, YES.
A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE ROOMMATE MATCHING.
UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT A ROOMMATE APP THAT IS DEVELOPED, UH, YOU KNOW, FULLY TO MATCH ROOM MEET SO THAT ROOMMATES CAN LOOK FOR THEIR BEST FIT.
UM, WHAT DID YOU SAY WAS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR BEDROOM? UH, GOSH, I DON'T, JONATHAN'S, YOU KNOW, AVERAGE AREAS OF THE BEDROOMS. HI, THIS IS JONATHAN PEARSON, BUT OUR ON THE PROJECT.
UH, SO THE, THE CLEAR SPACE IN THE BEDROOM IS GENERALLY ABOUT 10 BY 10, SO A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, THEN THERE'S ALSO A CLOSET AND KIND OF SOME ENTRY SPACE AS WELL.
SO IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WANT TO COUNT IT, BUT YOU KNOW, ENOUGH ROOM FOR A BED AND A DESK AND SOME SPACE AND BE AROUND.
SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET PER BEDROOM, AND FOLKS ARE PAYING 1400.
UM, I MEAN, SO THE FACT THAT THIS IS BEING TALKED ABOUT AS LIKE, OH, THIS WOULD BE GREAT FOR SERVICE INDUSTRY FOLKS.
LIKE I UNDERSTAND THE MISSING MIDDLE AND ALL OF THAT, BUT I WORKED IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY FOR A LONG TIME.
I DON'T KNOW ANYONE IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY FOR WHOM THIS WOULD REALLY BE TRULY AFFORDABLE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT LATE FIFTIES MAKING 50 OR 60 K.
SO I JUST KIND OF WANT TO QUESTION LIKE THE MARKETING OF THIS KIND OF PROJECT IS LIKE, WE'RE HERE FOR THE SERVICE INDUSTRY.
UM, AND THE, UM, I APPRECIATE SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR FOLKS THERE AND THE TENANTS, LIKE I KNOW IN COMPARABLE SITUATIONS WHEN WE HAVE FOLKS REACH OUT, UM, TO US IN MY, IN MY JOB, UM, THERE ARE TIMES THAT PEOPLE END UP IN REALLY UNHEALTHY ROOMMATE SITUATIONS WITH PEOPLE THAT THEY DON'T KNOW, UM, AND NEED TO GET OUT.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, UM, WILL YOU ALL BE FOLLOWING STANDARD, UM, TA UM, LEASE TERMINATION, UM, REQUIREMENTS AND THE LIKE STANDARD TA LEASE OR ARE YOU ALL CONSIDERING, UM, HAVING MORE FLEXIBLE OPTIONS? SO THAT TENANTS THAT MIGHT BE IN AN UNHEALTHY SITUATION WITH, WITH PEOPLE THAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE, WANT TO BE MATCHED WITH, CAN GET OUT OF THEIR LEASES.
I HOPE THAT QUESTION WAS CLEAR ENOUGH.
LET ME KNOW IF I NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR.
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I THOUGHT HE WAS TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR QUESTION IS.WHAT WILL THE WILL AT LEAST I'LL BE, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE, WILL PEOPLE BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE, OF THE SITUATION THAT THEY'RE IN? YEAH.
HOW MUCH FLEXIBILITY WORK WILL THERE BE WITH LEASE TERMINATION BECAUSE THE STANDARD LEASE.
UM, AND I IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS COME UP A LOT, HONESTLY, WHERE IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD FIT OR IT'S A TOXIC ROOMMATE SITUATION OR SOMETHING WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW THE PEOPLE AS WELL, THAT YOU'RE GOING IN WITH.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU ALL ARE GOING TO MODIFY THE STANDARD TA LEASE TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR FOLKS TO GET OUT OF THEIR LEASES, IF NEED BE.
UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE ANSWER ON, BUT THAT I CAN, UM, DEFINITELY WOULD LOOK INTO WITH OUR TEAM AND MAKE SURE THAT I TAKE THAT POINT BACK TO EVERYBODY.
UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH LITTLE QUESTIONS? SO I HAVE ONE, UM, OR, UH, UH, MRS. WEAVER.
SO I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT THE CAPITOL CORRIDOR IS PROJECT WAS A SIMILAR PROJECT WITH A HEIGHT LIMIT OF 60 FEET.
IF THIS, THIS CASE, YOU SAID CAN'T WORK AT 60 FEET, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS? IF I UNDERSTOOD THE, UH, THAT STATEMENT THAT YOU MADE EARLIER, THE SITES ARE DIFFERENT.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT, UM, COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DIFFERENT SITES AND SCALES.
UM, AND THERE'S ALSO NO PARKING ON CAPITOL QUARTERS.
UH, WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE ONE MORE SLOT IF COMMISSIONERS WANT TO USE IT.
OTHERWISE WE'LL ENTERTAIN MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE A MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER SHEA.
I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT AND LET'S JUST KIND OF SEE WHERE THIS CAN GO.
UH, SO WE CAN GENERATE SOME MORE DISCUSSIONS, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO SUPPORT SO WE CAN GET SOME TALK.
UH, COMMISSIONER COX, I SEE HAND WENT UP FIRST FOR THE SECOND COMMISSIONER.
YOU WANTED TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION.
SO, I MEAN, IF, IF IT WASN'T FOR MODELS LIKE THIS, I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LIVE CLOSE TO DOWN TOWN.
WHEN I STARTED WORKING, I HAD TO HAVE ROOMMATES AND THE MARKET DICTATED, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO PAY.
I MEAN, IN MY MIND, I MEAN, THIS IS A FABULOUS LOCATION FOR THIS.
LIKE I SAID, MY KIDS ARE WHEN THE KIDS THERE, HE COULD GET ANYWHERE DOWNTOWN WALKING AND SKATEBOARDING.
I MEAN, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THIS, THAT THIS OVER THERE.
UM, I WISH WE HAD A DARN CODE THAT ALLOWED THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM FOR THIS PLACE.
CAUSE THEN IT WOULD HAVE SOME TEETH TO ALLOW US TO, UH, GET A TRUE COMMITMENT TO, TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SOME AFFORDABILITY.
SO I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US.
UM, I WISH THERE WAS A WAY TO GET THAT COMMITMENT.
UM, BUT AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, W WE DON'T HAVE A TOOL THAT WORKS.
SO I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THE PRIMARY SHIFT OR COVENANTS ARE GOING TO COME INTO PLAY AND HELP PUSH FOR THIS AND THAT OUR MESSAGE COUNSEL WOULD BE THAT THEY NEED TO, YOU KNOW, HELP GUIDE THIS TO GET US A CODE THAT WE CAN PUT SOME TEETH ON IT, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME INNOVATION AND SOME MORE AFFORDABILITY, BUT THIS AT LEAST IS A STEP FORWARD, THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
CAN I JUST ASK FOR A CLARIFICATION, WAS IT A SUPPORT APPLICANTS REQUEST OR SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPLICANTS, 90 FOOT CAMPER? UH, OUR FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS OF THING.
UM, YOU BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT COMMISSIONER SAY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FELL THROUGH ON THIS PROJECT.
THEY COULD JUST FLIP IT AND BUILD A 90 FOOT TALL OFFICE BUILDING AND MAKE A FORTUNE.
UM, IT IS A, IS A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY POSSIBLE TO MAKE OFFICE USE A CONDITIONAL USE FOR, FOR THIS PROPERTY TO JUST MAKE THAT ONE STEP MORE DIFFICULT FOR THAT DAY.
IS THAT A AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU SECOND IT, SINCE I JUST CLARIFIED, YOU CAN OFFER THAT.
HOWEVER, HOWEVER, I ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO MAKE OFFICE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE.
UM, AND, UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS WITH DME ZONING.
CAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, SO LET'S RUN THIS BACK FOLKS.
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TO THE MOTION, SO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE AMENDMENT AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON IT.AND, UH, WE WILL HAVE BEEN YEAH.
SO WE NEED A SECOND FOR THIS AMENDMENT.
I SEE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MOOSE TODDLER FOR, UH, IS THAT A AMENDMENT TO MAKE THIS CONDITIONAL OVERLAY OF SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME OF CAN OFFICE USES CONDITIONAL USE.
WELL, LET'S, UH, LET'S GO THROUGH THAT.
UM, UM, AMENDMENT, UH, MOTION MAKER IS COMMISSIONER COX.
DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK JUST A CLARIFICATION? IS THERE ANY OFFICE USE OR IS THERE A, A LIMIT ON SQUARE FOOTAGE OF OFFICE? YES, SIR.
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT ANY OFFICE USE WOULD BE A CONDITIONAL USE BECAUSE IT WAS A FIRST FLOOR.
BUT EITHER WAY, WHAT IT DOES IS IT KICKS IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THAT POINT.
SO IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT, IT'LL COME BACK.
SO, AND WE GET TO SEE IT, WHICH IS, WHICH WILL BE NICE TO SEE ANYWAY.
SO COMMISSIONER COX, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK TO YOUR AMENDMENT.
IS THIS AN AMENDMENT OR IS THIS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? IT'S AN M IT'S IT? WELL, WE, WE CAN VOTE FOR THIS TO BE ADDED TO IT.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
BUT, UM, WELL, NO, I, I MEAN, I I'VE ALREADY SAID, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER SAY THIS IS SUCH VALUABLE REAL ESTATE.
THEY COULD EASILY FLIP IT FOR 90 FOOT OFFICE TOWER AND I'D MUCH RATHER SEE THE PROJECT THEY PRESENTED MOVE FORWARD RATHER THAN SOMETHING ELSE.
SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST CREATING A SLIGHTLY BETTER DEFINED BOX TO GET THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE BEING PRESENTED.
UH, ANY SPEAKERS AGAINST, UH, THIS CONDITIONALLY USE AMENDMENT I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION TO STAFF, I GUESS I WOULD JUST, I'M SLIGHTLY CONCERNED ON NO OFFICE AND IT'D BE AT, BE MORE SUPPORTIVE IF WE COULD SAY LIKE NO OFFICE ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR, BUT I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT WE CAN DO THAT.
SO I JUST, IF STAFF, OR EVEN IF THE APPLICANT HAS, HAS AN IDEA OF, OF SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, GET TO THE SPIRIT OF IT, THAT MIGHT BE SLIGHTLY.
IT'S AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.
CAUSE VMU SPECIFIES FIRST FLOOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE VMU HAS HELPED TO DEFINE IT IN OTHER PROJECTS.
SO, AND I MEAN, THERE'S A LEASING OFFICE IN THE BUILDING, RIGHT.
I MEAN, THERE'S, I, I'M JUST, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IF WE SAY NO OFFICE, THEN IT'S PROBLEMATIC.
WELL, I'D SUPPORT CHANGING IT TO, TO NO OFFICE ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR.
IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S BETTER, NO TRADITIONAL USE OFFICE ABOVE FIRST FLOOR.
SO I THINK WE'RE, UM, WE ARE, UM, YEAH, WE'RE GETTING INTO LIKE LAYERS OF AMENDMENTS TO AMENDMENTS.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO UH LET'S UM, I THINK WE NEED TO, SO JUST A QUERY FOR STAFF OF WHAT IS POSSIBLE AND THEN SO, SO WE CAN KNOW WHETHER WE SUPPORT IT OR NOT.
SO THIS IS A POINT OF INQUIRY TO STAFF.
AND THE QUESTION IS, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, GO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR QUESTION AGAIN, W OR, OR POSSIBLY TO THE APPLICANT, IF THE APPLICANT KNOWS OF A GOOD MECHANISM, I GUESS IT'S THE MECHANISM.
I THINK THE SPIRIT OF THE AMENDMENT IS MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING FOR THE MOST PART, BUT I GUESS WE'RE JUST, I AM CONCERNED THAT SAYING NO OFFICE WOULD, WOULD BE LIMITING IN SOME WAYS AND YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DO THAT? TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS, UH, THAT WE WOULD BE COMPLETELY AMENABLE TO, TO SOMETHING ALONG THESE LINES.
THE GROUND FLOOR IS ABOUT 3000 SQUARE FEET OF LEASEABLE AREA.
IF THE COMMISSION DESIRED TO PUT A SQUARE FOOTAGE LEASE, IT'S A LIMITATION THAT ANYTHING ABOVE 3000 OR 3,500 WOULD THEN BE CONDITIONAL.
IF STAFF DETERMINES THAT, UM, ANYTHING ABOVE THE GROUND SCORE IS NOT PERMISSIBLE.
I GUESS THERE'S ONE PIECE OF THE VISION THAT NOT DOESN'T A LITTLE BIT FIT.
I JUST LIKE TO SHARE IT WITH YOU QUICKLY.
SO THE INTENTION OF THE GROUND FLOOR, WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO DESIGN IT OUT SO THAT THERE'S LITTLE BOUNCES AND WE CAN RENT THOSE OUT AS SMALL GROUP TO SMALL BUSINESS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS AND YOU HAVE A SECOND, W WE HAVE A SECRET GARDEN KIND OF ON THE SECOND FLOOR THAT I COULD SEE POTENTIALLY BEING ALSO USED AS THE YOGA STUDIO, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO BE TOTALLY PREVENTED WITH THIS, BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD BE INTERPRETED.
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AND WITH THIS KIND OF, I FEEL LIKE I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE VISIT.AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, BUT IF THERE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT OF MAYBE SAYING NOT MORE THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE, I THINK THAT WE COULD LIVE WITH THAT.
SO, UM, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER SHEA IS OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN.
COULD, COULD WE DO A RECONSIDERATION ON THIS? YEAH, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A FEW LAYERS AND WE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS.
I MEAN, WE, WE, SO HERE'S THE THING.
WE HAD A FIRST AND WE HAD A SECOND, WHICH BROUGHT UP QUESTIONING.
WE COULD DISPOSE OF IT IF THAT PERSON, UH, IF THE MOTION MAKERS AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, IF, UH, ANDREW COULD, UM, UH, TELL, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW IF IT'S OKAY, BUT IF, IF THEY RESCIND, BUT THE THING IS USUALLY ONCE IT'S FIRST AND SECOND IT'S IT'S ON THE TABLE, SO WE CAN, WE CAN DISPOSE OF IT IF WE WANT, WE CAN JUST DISPOSE OF IT, JUST VOTE AND DISPOSE OF IT AND, AND MOVE FORWARD.
THAT WOULD BE THE CLEANEST BECAUSE WE ALREADY THREW IT ON THE TABLE.
I THINK WE NEED A RECONSIDERATION WITH THE TWO THIRDS VOTE.
ANDREW, IS THAT RIGHT? IF WE WANT TO CHAIR THE ANSWER.
SO I GUESS THERE'S SOME CLARIFICATION.
SO IS THE CURRENTLY ON THE TABLE IS THE AMENDMENT BY COX SECOND, MY MUCH TALLER FOR A CEO OF OFFICE USE IS THAT WHAT THE BODY WISHES TO RECONSIDER? SO WHAT'S ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS, WAS COMMISSIONER COX PUT OUT THERE AND WHAT WE COULD DO, IF YOU WANT TO CLARIFY, WE COULD, IF WE WANT WE, AND, AND, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS ONCE THE PERSON SECONDS, IT'S, IT IS NOW THE BODIES.
IF IT IS THE BODY, WE CAN DISPOSE OF IT AND WE COULD JUST VOTE AND JUST DISPOSE OF IT.
AND THEN WE COULD, UM, THROW OUT ALL THE DIFFERENT, THAT WOULD BE THE CLEANEST THING.
THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.
SO IF, IF WE WANT TO JUST DISPOSE OF IT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE QUESTION.
AND IF WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, AND EITHER WE ALL KILL IT, AND THEN WE THROW OUT SOMETHING CLEARER.
SO COMMISSIONER SHAY, I THINK, UH, UH, MR. RIVERA WAS TRYING TO CLARIFY, ARE WE JUST DOING A RECONSIDERATION TO DISPOSE OF THE AMENDMENT, TO YOUR MOTION? IS THAT IT TO COX'S MOTION OR, CAUSE RIGHT NOW COX, HIS MOTION IS ON THE TAPE.
W W IN MY UNDERSTANDING COMMISSIONER COX IS WE WOULD LIKE TO DISPOSE OF YOURS AND WE COULD RECONSIDER, UH, WITH OTHER LANGUAGE SO WE CAN VOTE.
SO LET'S
IF YOU'RE ENTERTAINING THIS AMENDMENT, YOU CAN VOTE AND TO DISPOSE OF THE ITEM, OR YOU CAN WITHDRAW THE ITEM.
SO, BUT TO DRAW, SO THE ORIGINAL MOTION MAKER NEEDS TO WITHDRAW.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND THIS PERSON WHO'S SECOND IN.
WITH RE-DRAWING IT, THE SECOND DOESN'T MATTER.
SO COMMISSIONER COX CAN WITHDRAW AND THEN, UM, AND THEN WE CAN RE RE YOU KNOW, RESTATE IT.
SO COMMISSIONER, I DON'T WANT TO COMPLICATE THINGS.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DRAW IT, BUT WOULD IT BE CLEANER IF I JUST DID A SUBSTITUTE MOTION WITH, WITH WHAT WE'VE AGREED IN TERMS OF, BECAUSE I WANT TO DISPOSE OF WHAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO JUST CLEAR IT.
NOW WE'RE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION AS SUPPORTING THE GMU 90, AND NOW WE CAN TAKE, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO IT.
SO, UH, THE AMENDMENT, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD, MR. KING.
IT WAS, DO YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT? YEAH, NO.
I ASSUME STAFF WILL TELL US BECAUSE I DON'T THINK STAFF ACTUALLY EVER, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON'S QUESTION, BUT, UH, THEY'LL TELL US IF THIS ISN'T POSSIBLE, BUT, BUT I, I PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO MAKE, UH, OFFICE A CONDITIONAL USE ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR.
COULD IT BE SAY THE 5,000 SQUARE FEET AND SORT OF THE FIRST FLOOR IN CASE THEY WANTED TO DO A YOGA STUDIO ON THE SECOND? WELL, BUT OFFICE IS NOT YOGA.
THAT THAT WOULD BE A COMMERCIAL SERVICE.
AND SO OFFERS WOULD BE LIKE, IF THEY WANTED TO HAVE SHIPSTATION MOVE IN OR SOMETHING, AND IF IT'S A BUNCH OF CUBICLES, BUT I THINK THEIR CONCEPT WOULD STILL BE VERY FEASIBLE WITH OFFICE AS A CONDITIONAL USE ABOVE THE, ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I MISSED OTHER, OKAY.
UH, JUST, I GUESS, DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDMENT, COMMISSIONER COX.
ANYBODY VOTING AGAINST YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE, UH, IN FAVOR.
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ALL RIGHT.LET'S UH, DO YOU WANT TO CALL THE QUESTION? OKAY.
UH, LET'S GO AND VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.
OH, LET ME GO ON THIS AMENDMENT BY COMMISSIONER COX.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MR. TODDLER TO, UH, UH, TO OFFICE SPACE AS A CONDITIONAL USE ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR.
WE'RE VOTING IT'S UH, WE HAVE AN ACCOUNT ONE MORE TIME.
AND THEN I STARTED THE MAIN MOTION.
UM, DO WE, WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION NEEDED THERE? COMMISSIONER SHAY.
I CAN'T REMEMBER IF YOU SPOKE TO YOUR MOTION OR NOT.
DOES, UH, AGAINST, IN FAVOR, ANYONE ELSE? UH, COMMISSIONER COX, UH, I'VE SPOKEN ENOUGH.
COMMISSIONER COLEEN HAD, OKAY.
COMMISSIONER CONLEY, SPEAK IN FAVOR.
UM, YEAH, I'LL ALL I WANT TO SAY.
I'LL KEEP MY REMARKS VERY BRIEF.
IT'S THAT? ALTHOUGH I DO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE PLAN WILL BE IMPLEMENTED IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THE ROOMMATES HAVE THE TENANTS HAVE AGENCY OVER THEIR SPACE AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT FIRST BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION.
THIS IS A DENSE, UH, MUCH NEEDED DEVELOPMENT, UM, RIGHT DOWNTOWN ON THE WEST SIDE, YOU CAN'T FIND ANYTHING ELSE LIKE IT ANYWHERE IN THE AREA.
SO I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT OF IT FOR THAT REASON.
I'M ALSO IN SUPPORT OF IT BECAUSE OF THE REDUCED PARKING, WHICH AGAIN, PROMOTES THE VISION THAT WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT.
BICYCLES, PEDESTRIANS, WALKABILITY.
SO THERE'S SO MUCH TO LIKE ABOUT THIS PROJECT THAT I HAVE NO CHOICE, BUT TO SUPPORT IT.
AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANTED TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST COMMISSIONERS? MR. TODDLER? I GUESS IT'S A NEUTRAL CAUSE I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, BUT I WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD, WE, WE NEED THESE TOOLS IN THIS DISTRICT.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXPENSE HERE.
IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 10 BY 10 BEDROOM AND I'VE GOT NO PLACE TO PARK MY BICYCLE, EXCEPT IN THAT 10 BY 10 BEDROOM THAT I'M ABOUT TO PAY 1500 BUCKS A MONTH FOR, I'M NOT REALLY THRILLED WITH THIS.
I WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I LIKE THE CONCEPT AND THE IDEA, BUT I THINK I, I WANT TO STRESS TO COUNCIL.
WE NEED SOME BETTER TOOLS TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO ACCOMPLISH, BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS ISN'T QUITE HITTING AFFORDABILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD REALLY USE THIS.
UH, TEAM I'M GETTING, UH, WE DO HAVE STAFF STAFF-WISE IN AND, UH, WE CAN LIMIT SQUARE FOOTAGE OR COMMISSION ON ANDREW FOR REPLACING A CONTINUE TO PROCEED.
UH, SO, UH, I THINK I SAW FISHER HOWARD'S HAND GO UP.
I'M UH, I'M GOING TO SPEAK FOR IT.
I THINK, I THINK WE CAN BUILD ON THIS AND CONSIDER THE LIKES OF HOW THIS MIGHT BE USED, UM, IN SOME WAY TO THINK ABOUT TRUE AFFORDABILITY.
OBVIOUSLY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MISSING MIDDLE AND I MEAN, THAT'S, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO, IT'S 80 TO ONE 20.
HOWEVER, I THINK INTRODUCING THIS KIND OF MODEL TO THIS AREA IS GOOD BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN CONSIDER WHAT WE MIGHT SEE IN THE FUTURE FOR A TRUE 80 AND BELOW.
SO LET'S CONTINUE TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A GOOD ONE.
SO, UM, THIS IS THE MAIN MOTION, UH, BY SHEA SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER COPPS, WHICH IS DMU C O WITH A 90 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.
UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE MAIN MOTION AND LEAVE HIM OUT THERE.
THIS IS FOR THE, THOSE IN FAVOR.
I HAVE 11 IN FAVOR, UH, THOSE THAT GET VOTING AGAINST NONE VOTING, UM, ABSTAINING.
SO THAT MOTION PASSES 11 TO TWO.
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MOVE ON TO ITEMS, B12 THREE, B 14.UM, THE FIRST ITEM WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO GO INTO, UH, WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, LET ME JUST STEP YOU THROUGH, UH, WHAT I'VE PROPOSED THIS EVENING TO MAYBE THE GOAL IS TO GET THIS DONE TONIGHT.
WE ARE WORKING WITH, DID A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING, TREMENDOUS WORK COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
AND THIS EVENING, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR WHAT THEY PROPOSE IN THE AMENDMENTS.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN SENT TO YOU EARLIER, SO YOU CAN REVIEW THEM.
UH, BUT WE'VE GOT TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH A PROCESS.
UH, I NEED YOU TO, UH, WE'RE, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH MY PROPOSED, UH, PROCESS, UM, VERSUS THE TIME ON THE SPEAKERS, UH, THEN THE FOLLOW-UP Q AND A ALL THE WAY TO OUR DISCUSSION.
SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO RECONSIDER OR TWEAK, UH, PLEASE OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION, BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, WE NEED A SUPER MAJORITY, CAUSE WE ARE MODIFYING OUR RULES, OUR NORMAL RULES.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO GO AND LEAD THROUGH THIS, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS GOOD PRACTICE.
NEW COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH ALTERNATIVE, UH, KIND OF DISCUSSION PROCESSES.
UH, THIS WILL BE NEW AND DIFFERENT, BUT, UH, IF YOU CAN JUST BEAR WITH ME, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ THIS OUT FOR A WHILE.
AND THIS WAS SENT TO YOU, UH, UH, TO YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND RUN THROUGH IT.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE SPEAKERS.
UM, UH, WE HAVE SEVEN SPEAKERS, UM, PROPOSING TWO MINUTES EACH.
UH, THE SECOND ITEM IS OUR Q AND A IN ORDER TO GET THROUGH OUR AMENDMENTS.
I'M PROPOSING THAT WE JUST ALLOW THREE COMMISSIONERS, FIVE MINUTES EACH AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE SPEAKERS, UH, THERE WILL BE CHANCES TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS IN THE PROCESS.
UH, AND I'LL GO OVER THAT IN A SECOND.
SO NEXT, UH, WE NEED TO DISCUSS OUR RULES FOR DISCUSSION AND DEBATE.
UM, I, UH, AM OFFERING THAT WE CREATE THE BASE MOTION IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEMS B12 13 AND 14.
THAT WOULD BE THE BASE MOTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PROPOSING AMENDMENTS AGAINST.
SO, UM, NEXT WE WILL START WITH THE WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS.
UH, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS THAT YOU CAME UP WITH.
UH, WE DIDN'T GET ANY SUBMITTED, UH, PREVIOUS TO THE MEETING, BUT, UH, AS WE GO THROUGH DISCUSSION, YOU MAY HAVE AMENDMENTS, BUT THOSE WILL FOLLOW, UH, THE WORKING DISCUSSION ON THE WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS, UM, OKAY.
NETS, UH, WE NEED TO PROPOSE THE ORDER, UH, KIND OF THE GROUPINGS AND HOW WE WILL ADDRESS, UH, THE WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS.
AND, UM, I THINK I WOULD LIKE COMMISSIONER CZAR.
YOU HAD PROPOSED A CERTAIN, UH, OUT OF THE 10 AMENDMENTS.
IF THE WORKING GROUP CAME UP WITH A CERTAIN KIND OF PACKAGING, IT, THOSE AND AN ORDER, DO YOU WANT TO BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THAT? UH, SO WE CAN, ALL THE COMMISSIONERS ARE CLEAR ON THE ORDER AT WHICH WE'LL CONSIDER THESE OR THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING SHORT TERM.
DO YOU WANT ME TO GO OVER THEM IN DETAIL RIGHT NOW? OR JUST EXPLAIN THE PROCESS? UH, JUST THE PROCESS AND THE BY NUMBER, MAYBE WHICH ONES YOU INTEND TO GROUP TOGETHER AND THE ORDER IN WHICH YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM.
SO I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT TODAY, UM, UH, MR. RIVERA HAD SENT THE SPREADSHEET OUT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THERE'S A SPREADSHEET THAT HE BASICALLY CREATED AND WHAT VAN CAME, UM, THAT HAS BOTH THE STAFF COMMENTS AND ANY OF THE AMENDMENTS AND THE SORT OF MOOD TRACKING WITH THE TRACKING NUMBER.
AND WHAT I DID DO IS I DID NOT CHANGE THEIR PROPOSED AMENDMENT DRAGGING NUMBER JUST IN CASE SOMEBODY HAD, THEY DIDN'T NOTICE THAT THEY WANTED TO REFER TO, BUT ESSENTIALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SPREADSHEET, WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS THAT THE FIRST IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE 11TH STREET NCCD, FDR IN HEIGHT, WHICH HAD BEEN COMBINED.
SO LOOKING AT THE ENTITLEMENTS AND A CORRESPONDING MAP TO UNDERSTAND THEM, THAT WOULD FORM GROUP NUMBER ONE GROUP NUMBER IS LOOKING AT THE GROWTH STREET, NCCD HEIGHT NFLR.
SO THOSE ARE GROUPED TOGETHER TO CONSIDER AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, WE'LL THEN HAVE, UM, A BLOCK ON THE USE STANDARDS FOR BOTH 11TH AND 12TH STREET.
AND REALLY THE WORKING GROUP IS PROPOSING ONLY ONE AMENDMENT TO THE USERS.
SO THAT WILL BE GROUPED TOGETHER.
WE WILL HAVE A SEPARATE ONE ON THE 12TH STREET, NCCD LIQUOR SALES.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, THERE WILL BE A GROUPING OF LOOKING AT AN AMENDMENT TO THE URBAN RENEWAL
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PROVISION PLAN.AND, UM, THERE'S A SINGLE FAMILY EXCEPTION.
SO SOME CLARIFICATION'S AND LANGUAGE FIXES THAT I THINK BETTER REFLECT THE, UM, THE INTENT BEHIND THE DOCUMENTS.
SO THAT IS HOW IT IS IN THERE THAT WOULD READ FIVE GROUPS THAT WE'VE TAKEN A VOTE ON WITH, OF COURSE, AT AMENDMENTS AS PRESENTED IN THE MIDDLE.
SO DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED ORDER? UM, MR. COX, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED AND OF COURSE THIS IS COMING FROM ME, BUT I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIMITING THREE COMMISSIONERS AT FIVE MINUTES EACH FOR REGULAR Q AND A, YOU MENTIONED THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE.
AND JUST I'LL MENTION THAT QUICKLY.
SO, UH, WHEN WE GO THROUGH EACH GROUPING OF AMENDMENT, UH, WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS A FIVE, UH, WE'LL START OUT WITH A DESCRIPTION OF THE AMENDMENT BY, UH, THE WORKING GROUP.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ALLOW FIVE COMMISSIONERS, THREE MINUTES EACH TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE SPEAKERS, THAT WORKING GROUP STAFF, ANYONE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
SO IT'S JUST OPEN Q AND A, UH, THAT WILL FOLLOW A DESCRIPTION OF EACH GROUPING OF AMENDMENTS.
SO WE'LL START OUT WITH A, UH, SOMEONE FROM THE WORKING GROUP WILL DESCRIBE THE GROUP OF AMENDMENTS AND THEN WE'LL GET FIVE COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH YES.
EIGHT DURING THAT PROCESS ARE COMMISSIONERS ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTION OF, WELL, I GUESS IT SAYS RIGHT HERE.
SO WE'RE ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF AND SPEAKERS.
SO, UM, SO COMMISSIONER MUCH TALLER.
SO, UM, FIRST THANK YOU TO THE WORKING GROUP FOR, UH, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND, AND THE WORK THAT THEY DID IN THAT.
UM, BUT IF, IF ANYBODY WANTED TO MAKE CHANGES OR, OR AS A COMMISSION, WE WANT TO MAKE CHANGES AFTER DISCUSSION.
HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO THIS? YES.
SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND JUMP DOWN ON THE RULES THAT I PROPOSE THAT, UH, WAS SUBMITTED, UH, AFTER THE FEW AND A, UH, THE FIVE COMMISSIONERS AT THREE MINUTES EACH, THEN WE BEGAN, UH, UH, COMMISSIONERS CAN MAKE A MOTION AND IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE EXACTLY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MOTION AS PRESENTED BY THE WORK GROUP.
AFTER WE HAVE DISCUSSION, UH, MOTIONS CAN BE MADE, THAT CAN BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE WORKING GROUP PROPOSED.
BUT, UM, AT THAT POINT, YOU, YOU HAVE TO, IF IT GAINS THE SECOND, WE WILL THEN MOVE INTO OUR NORMAL RULES.
THIS IS EXCEPT THAT THESE AMENDMENTS ARE ALREADY AMENDMENT.
SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW OUR AMENDMENT TO THESE AMENDMENTS, THIS IS WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING.
SO THE BASE MOTION IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THESE WHATEVER WE, UH, THE MOTION WILL BE THE FIRST AMENDMENT, WHICH THERE MIGHT BE RECOGNIZING, UH, IT'LL PROBABLY BE THE WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS, BUT THERE COULD BE SLIGHT, UH, CHANGES TO THOSE THAT WE ARE MAKING AS A MOTION, BUT THEN WE CAN MAKE AMENDMENT TO THAT AMENDMENT.
SO WHERE WE DO NOT ALLOW THAT ON OUR OTHER, IN OUR NORMAL RULES, WE ARE ALLOWING AN AMENDMENT TO AMENDMENT IN THIS CASE, AS WELL AS SUBSTITUTE MOTIONS.
SO IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT? I KNOW THAT WAS THE MOST CONFUSING THING THAT I NEEDED TO EXPLAIN FOR THIS PROCESS.
SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER MOOSE TODDLER.
SO WE WILL, UH, AT THAT POINT, UH, LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR ALSO COMMISSIONERS, AS WE ALWAYS DO.
UH, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO, WE CAN VOTE TO SPLIT THE QUESTION.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE THE GROUPINGS, ONCE WE GET INTO DISCUSSION OR EVEN BEFOREHAND, WE NEED TO TAKE THESE INDIVIDUALLY AND NOT VOTE AS A GROUPING, UH, OR CONSIDER THEM AS A GROUP, WE CAN CONSIDER THESE INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL.
SO, UH, LOOKING AT THIS LIST, YOU CAN OFFER TO SPLIT THESE UP AT THIS TIME.
UH, ONCE WE, ONCE WE AGREE ON THE PROCESS, THAT'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO YOU TO SPLIT THE QUESTION OR DIVIDE THE QUESTION.
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OKAY.SO I'M REALLY QUICKLY GOING BACK TO THE KIND OF ORDER.
UM, WHAT I PROPOSE IS IF WE GET INTO INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS, UH, IF WE HAVE ANY, UH, AFTER WE WORKED THROUGH THE WORKING GROUP, THAT AMENDMENTS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER THOSE KIND OF, UH, BASED ON DISTRICT, UH, YOUR DISTRICT, STARTING WITH THE MAYORS APPOINTEES AND DISTRICT ONE DISTRICT TWO, AND JUST GO ROUND ROBIN UNTIL WE FINISH ALL THE INDIVIDUAL AMENDMENTS.
I DON'T IMAGINE WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE LOT, BUT AFTER WE COULD HAVE A FEW, AFTER WE WRAP UP THE WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS, UM, QUESTIONS ON THIS PROCESS BEFORE WE, UH, I'M ENTERTAINING CHANGES.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY, IF NOT, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WE NEED A SUPER MAJORITY ALL THE WAY FROM THE SPEAKER TIME, UH, CHANGING OUR Q AND A FROM THREE COMMISSIONERS, FIVE MINUTES EACH, AND THE DISCUSSION AND DEBATE AS I OUTLINED MAKING SURE EVERYBODY'S COMMISSIONERS ARE OKAY.
UH, SO I MADE THE MOTION IS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER HUIZAR.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE, UH, WE NEED A SUPER MAJORITY TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO NOW, UM, LET ME GET MY PAPERWORK IN FRONT OF ME.
WE, UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO WORK.
SO ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO JUST GET IS, UH, FIRST IS A QUICK, UH, OVERVIEW COMMISSIONER HUIZAR THE PROCESS, UH, JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND HOW YOU GUYS GOT HERE AND GET CHAIR.
UM, SO AS FOLKS NOW THAT WORKING GROUP WAS FORMED OF MYSELF, COMMISSIONED GONG LEAGUE COMMISSIONER.
AND YOU GUYS BELIEVED THOUGH AND COMMISSION PRAXIS.
UM, AND WE WORKED THROUGH A PROCESS WHEREBY WE WORKED WITH A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY GROUPS.
WE HAD A LISTENING SESSION EARLY ON, THAT WAS BROAD AND OPEN TO ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND.
AND WE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THERE.
AND WE ALSO, UM, HAD, HAD SORT OF SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE US AND REVITALIZATION THAT COULD NOT BE AT THE, AT THE, UM, MEETING THE LISTING SESSION ITSELF.
WE ALSO HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OCEAN, UM, BECAUSE THEY WERE HAVING THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND INVITED US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
AND I THINK PART OF THIS WAS COMMISSIONERS HAVING INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL.
AND SO WE REALLY WORK WITH A BROAD LIST OF FOLKS THAT WERE INVITED TO THIS LISTING SESSION, WITH FEEDBACK FROM ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, THE FOLKS THAT WE HAD ALREADY HEARD FROM VIA EMAIL OR OTHERWISE, AND, UH, WITH FEEDBACK FROM STAFF AND REGARDING TO WORK WITH THE OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDERS.
SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF LISTENING AND THEN THE WORKING GROUP WORKED TOGETHER TO GO TO OUR AMENDMENTS, PRETTY MUCH REFLECTING A LOT OF WHAT WE HAD HEARD.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A LOT OF SORT OF FEEDBACK FROM STAFF IN TERMS OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD.
SO I WENT PANG STYLE FOR THAT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY WANTED TO CLARIFY IS THAT REALLY PRETTY MUCH WE HAD ALMOST UNANIMOUS, UH, FOR ALMOST ALL OF THESE AMENDMENTS.
SO REALLY WE GOT THE FULL BACKING OF OUR WORKING GROUP, AND I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
UM, AND, AND ALSO JUST KIND OF SAY, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO TANK ALL OF MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE ON HERE.
I REALLY WANT TO THANK MR. NOVERA.
UM, MS.
AND I DEFINITELY WANT TO TANK A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND STAKEHOLDERS THAT CAME OUT AND HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH US AND PROVIDED US FEEDBACK AND REALLY PROVIDED A LOT OF CONTEXT THAT WE NEEDED FOR THIS WORK.
AND I TANKED ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS IN THE CHAIR FOR GIVING US THE DELAY AND DYING THAT WAS NEEDED TO WORK ON THIS.
AND I DO WANT TO SAY, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE OTHER SEAT COMMISSIONERS IF THEY WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT PROCESS, UH, FINISHING ON THE SPOLETO.
I JUST WANT TO ECHO, UH, COMMISSIONER SR, HIS SENTIMENTS AND ALSO, UM, THANK HIM IN PARTICULAR FOR COORDINATING, KEEPING OUR DOCUMENTS, UH, STRAIGHT AND SERVING AS A LIAISON BETWEEN, UM, OUR WORKING GROUP AND STAFF, UM, AS WELL AS RESPONDING TO COMMUNITY AS WE ALL DID THE BEST WE COULD.
SO APPRECIATE THAT ANYONE ELSE BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH OUR SPEAKERS.
SO OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS A US IN PFIESTER STAR SIX TO UNMUTE, AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
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OKAY.HI, ONCE AGAIN, MY NAME IS AUSTIN FEASTER.
I'M A LANDOWNER AND THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE 11TH STREET IN CCD ALONG ROSEWOOD.
I'VE BEEN LISTENING AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK.
AND THE FOCUS HAS BEEN FROM MY IMPRESSION IS ON THE BOUNDARY WITHIN URBAN RENEWAL BOARD OR URBAN RENEWAL PLANS, BOUNDARY LINES.
AND MY COMMENTS, I WANT TO BE CLEAR ARE NOT INVOLVED OR ARE I'M MAKING NO COMMENT ON ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THERE.
UH, WHAT'S KIND OF, FROM MY OPINION, BEEN LEFT OUT ON THE OBSERVATION AND HAS NOT RECEIVED THE ATTENTION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S GETTING SOME OF THE ADJUSTMENTS ON THE PROPOSALS IS WHAT'S BEYOND THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARDS BOUNDARY LINE.
AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY, UH, IN MY OPINION, AN INCORRECT PROCESS TO, UH, USE THEIR PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS FOR WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE NURSE BOUNDARY LINES TO DECIDE THE OUTCOME OF WHAT'S HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF THEIR BOUNDARY LINES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN THE 11TH STREET IN NCCD.
AND WITH THAT, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S WORKING GROUP HAS MIRRORED THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD'S COMMENTS.
AND SO I'M NOT MAKING ANY COMMENT ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES OR THE PROCESS THAT'S HAPPENED FOR THOSE.
THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC EASTERN EDGE OF THE 11TH STREET IN CCD.
AND I THINK IF, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THINKS CHANGES DESERVES TO BE MADE THERE, IT SHOULD FOLLOW A SIMILAR SORT OF OPEN PUBLIC PROCESS FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON THESE, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT'S GOING ON ELSEWHERE.
MY RECOMMENDATION AND I'VE SENT A LETTER TO THE COMMISSIONER IS MY RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, I HOPE FAIRLY SIMPLE.
IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, THAT'S WHAT, IT'S THE SAME, WHICH IS TO JUST LEAVE WITH SOME DISTRICTS AS THEY ARE THERE INSTEAD OF CREATING NEW ONES.
UH, AND THEN THE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING INSIDE.
UH, I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THE URBAN OR BOARD CHANGES.
UM, I'M TRYING TO DRAW DEMARCATION.
I'M NOT MAKING ANY COMMENT OR TRYING TO WEIGH IN BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN A PROCESS THAT'S BEEN FOCUSED ON, AND I WANT TO REITERATE, EVEN AT THE LISTENING SESSION, AS I WROTE IN MY EMAIL, THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD ACKNOWLEDGED END, THIS HAD BEEN OUTSIDE OF THEIR PURVIEW, THIS, THIS SMALL LITTLE AREA AND AT THE VERY EASTERN EDGE WITH THAT, UH, JUST TO KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.
I WANT TO DRILL HERE, I THINK BECAUSE IT HASN'T HAD THAT KIND OF PROCESS.
IF YOU WANT THAT, WE SHOULD THEN TAKE THAT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT, BUT IT'S NOT FAIR WITH IT.
IF IT HASN'T HAD THE ANIMAL ANALYSIS RIGOR AND PUBLIC INPUT, BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN A FOCUS OF CONVERSATION, I THINK IT SHOULD BE LEFT OUT FROM ANY MAJOR CHANGES IN THE SUB DISTRICTS SHOULD REMAIN AS IS THE ONE CHANGE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT CURRENTLY THE LAST I SAW WAS, UH, THEY WERE SUGGESTING SPECIFICALLY TO A ADJUSTED TO A RESTAURANT GENERAL, A PARDON.
THEY WERE A RESTAURANT LIMITED USE, AND I THINK IT SHOULDN'T BE A RESTAURANT VIENNA WHAT WE USE, BECAUSE IT WOULD ALREADY CREATE A NON-CONFORMING SITUATION WITH THE ROSEWOOD RESTAURANT RIGHT THERE ALREADY.
UH, I'LL KEEP IT VERY SIMPLE WITH THAT.
AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO THE QUESTION TO ANSWER ABOUT THE PULSE, STAY ON.
ARE THERE SUB QUESTIONS FOR ME? OKAY.
I MAY HAVE HAD HEARD, I HAD A HARD TIME HEARING THE BUZZER ON THAT, SO I'LL TRY TO CHECK THE CLOCK ON TIME, BUT WE HAVE NEXT, UM, UH, SPEAKER IS, UM, AUSTIN BARRY STAR SIX, AND THESE, BY THE WAY ARE LISTED IN FAVOR OF, UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ON THESE ITEMS. JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW WHO WE'RE HEARING FROM NOW, AND NEXT IS AUSTIN BARRY STAR SIX ON MUTE AUSTIN.
VERY HI, THIS IS AUSTIN BARRY.
UH, AM I UNMUTED NOW? YES, YOU ARE.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME THIS EVENING.
AND I DO UNDERSTAND A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO THIS.
I, UH, AM ALSO A LANDOWNER ON THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE 11 ROSEWOOD AND THE 11TH STREET, UH, NCCD AREA.
AND I, UH, ECHO THE COMMENTS THAT, UH, AUSTIN FISHER HAS MADE ABOUT HOW A LOT OF THIS APP, THIS PROCESS STARTED WITH THE URP AND THEIR BOUNDARIES THAT I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THE AMENDMENTS
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THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARIES.I JUST WANT TO MAKE THE SIMPLE POINT THAT THIS FAR EASTERN EDGE WAS NOT INCLUDED INITIALLY.
AND IT SEEMS TO BE THE PUBLIC INPUT AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS, UH, A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO EXISTING, UM, ZONING AND, UH, THE SUBDISTRICT.
AND SO I, I FULLY SUPPORT STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, INCLUDE AND KEEP EXISTING SUB DISTRICTS WHERE THEY ARE AND DOCTORATE THE NEW SUB DISTRICT.
AND, UH, THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO PUT ON THIS.
SO I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S TIME AND I REALIZED VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE WITH TWO PLANS AND THEN URBAN RENEWAL BOARD.
SO I KNOW A LOT OF WORKS GOT INTO THIS AND I FOLLOWING THIS PROCESS, BUT, UH, JUST THE WORKING GROUP JUST TO GET TO SPEED WITH IT.
I'M SURE ALL WORK DILIGENTLY WITH STAFF, BUT THEY, THEY ALSO STUDY THAT EASTERN EDGE OF THE, WE WOULD NOT WANT TO TRADE NON-CONFORMING ISSUES OUTSIDE OF THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD AND KEEP THAT NCCD DISTRICT, UH, AS IT WAS INTENDED.
UH, NEXT SPEAKING FOR IS, UH, I THINK IT'S AN ILS AND KOTA.
I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE MS. KICKOFF ON THE LINE.
OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, SPEAKING AGAINST, I HAVE, UM, SYNOVIA JOSEPH STAR SIX TO UNMUTE.
MY COMMENTS ARE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO B 13 ON PAGE ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS AND MENTIONED THAT 23 PEOPLE ATTENDED A REMOTE MEETING.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS WERE PRESENT AT THE MEETING.
I WOULD ALSO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THERE WAS A RESOLUTION PASSED BY COUNCIL ON MARCH 4TH, 2021, ITEM 67.
AND IT ACTUALLY SPECIFIED QUOTE THE CITY'S ROLE IN DISENFRANCHISING BLACK AUSTINITES PAST DISCRIMINATION, URBAN RENEWAL POLICIES, AND THE 1928 MASTER PLAN.
AND I JUST WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'VE BEEN PROMISED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES MANY TIMES AN 80% AREA MEDIAN INCOME, JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, ACTUALLY EXCLUDES AFRICAN-AMERICANS AFRICAN-AMERICANS EARN ABOUT $42,000 HISPANICS EARNING ABOUT $50,000 AND THAT'S THE US BUREAU STATISTICS.
AND I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME IN 2020, FOR THOSE THAT EARNED 80% WAS $54,700.
SO THIS WORKFORCE HOUSING AND THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE PAID A FEE IN LIEU OF BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOWNTOWN IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU A REASON FOR PAUSE.
I WOULD JUST CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION AS LOVE THAT THE CITY MANAGER HASN'T BEEN AS MY COUNSELOR'S NAME BACK SOMETHING AUGUST 1ST, 2021, AS IT RELATES TO THIS BLACK EMBASSY.
AND SO WHILE YOU SAY THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF OUTREACH, I WOULD JUST CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT KCI WAS READILY AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PANDEMIC.
AND WHEN THEY WANTED US TO KNOW ABOUT PROJECT, ABOUT PROJECT CONNECT, THE AD ABOUT EQUITY PLAYED OVER 550 TIMES, AND I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT'S BEING DONE ON 11TH AND 12TH STREET.
I LOOKED AT THE APRIL 6TH, 2012 ONE AFRICAN-AMERICAN LISA SAID THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO BE.
UH, I THINK THAT WAS THE TWO MINUTES, UH, ALLOWABLE TIME, MS. JOSEPH, UM, BASED ON MY CLOCK.
SO THAT'S, UH, WE HAVE, UH, SPEAKERS SPEAKING NEUTRALLY.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES STAR SIX DON'T MUTE.
THIS IS NATE JONES, PRESIDENT OF THE ORGANIZATION OF CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO REVIEWING THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN FOR EAST 11TH AND 12TH STREETS, AS WELL AS THEIR RESPECTIVE NCC DS, THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD AND STAFF
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BROUGHT YOU DRAFTS THAT ARE ALIGNED AND MUCH EASIER TO USE.THEY ARE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT ON THE RATHER UNWIELDY DOCUMENTS PUT TOGETHER.
IN THE 1990S, WE DID MAKE A FEW SUGGESTIONS TO COMMISSIONER RESIGNED HIS WORKING GROUP ABOUT HOW THEY MIGHT BE FURTHER IMPROVED, AND WE HOPE YOU WILL SUPPORT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
OTHER OCEAN REPS WE'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS WITH YOU.
I'D LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND DESCRIBE PROGRESS ON THE REVITALIZATION EFFORTS SO FAR TO HOPEFULLY DEMONSTRATE THE CRITICAL ROLE.
THESE REGULATORY DOCUMENTS STILL HAVE TO PLAY IN THE PROJECT AREA.
SO THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 1999 AT THE BEHEST OF AREA BUSINESS AND PROPERTY OWNERS AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE INTENT OF THE PROJECT WAS TO RESTORE ECONOMIC VITALITY TO THESE STREETS AND DELIVER A MIX OF DESIRED USES THAT WOULD SERVE THE COMMUNITY'S DAILY NEEDS.
THE PROMISE MADE WAS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD RESPECT THAT ENHANCE THE EXISTING CONTEXT, MEANING THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, HISTORIC STRUCTURES, EXISTING BUSINESSES, AND ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS, AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE WHO OCCUPY THEM TO A SIGNIFICANT DEGREE.
EAST 11TH STREET IS LARGELY BUILT OUT WITH COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND RETAIL AND INCLUDES MANY RESTORED HISTORIC ASSETS.
TWO LARGE BLOCKS OWNED BY THE URBAN RENEWAL AGENCY REMAINED TO BE DISPOSED OF IN THE NEAR TERM THAT REPRESENTS A SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD ON PROGRESS AND ENSURE ALL THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND ECONOMIC BENEFITS HAPPENING ON THE STREET ARE ACCESSIBLE TO AND SHARED BY THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
EAST 12TH STREET IS TWICE AS LONG AS EAST 11TH AND HAS SOMEWHAT HAS A SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT PROFILE.
THERE ARE BLOCKS OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE FROM THE 19 HUNDREDS TO THE 1960S, PROJECT-BASED SECTION EIGHT AND 15 NEW URBAN HOMES.
THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES, INCLUDING THE BIBLE BELIEVERS CHURCH, THE IQ HURDLE HOUSE, THE OLD ISAAC ADVISER GROCERY STORE, AND THE SOUTH GATE LEWIS HOUSE.
AND THERE ARE TWO NEW MIXED USE PROJECTS COMPLETED, ONE ON URA LAND AND ONE BY A LONG TIME VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A MIX OF RETAIL OFFICE AND HOUSING.
I THINK THAT'S A TWO MINUTE TIME.
UH, NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UM, UH, TRACY WITTY.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES START 600 GOOD EVENING, MR. TRACY, WOODY SECRETARY FOR THE ORGANIZATION OF CENTRAL EAST FASTENED NEIGHBORHOODS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
OCEAN URGES YOU TO SUPPORT THE DRAFTS OF THE ERB HAVE SIGNED OFF ON TOGETHER WITH THE CHANGES RECOMMENDED BY YOUR WORKING GROUP, THEIR AMENDMENTS BUILD ON THE GREAT WORK THAT THE IRB HAS DONE TO ALIGN IN DOCUMENTS, STREAMLINE THEM FOR CLARITY OF USE AND CARRY FORWARD A MANIFEST CONNECTION BETWEEN THE VISION FOR THE AREA AND ITS DEVELOPMENT CONTROLS.
THEY'RE JUST A FEW PLACES WHERE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN VISION AND ENTITLEMENTS COULD BE STRONGER.
FOR EXAMPLE, UNLIMITED FAR IS PERMITTED ON THESE 12TH AND PROPOSED FOR 11TH, UNLIMITED BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE SERVED NO PURPOSE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE DEVELOPMENT ON EITHER STREET.
NEW THREE TO FIVE STORY MIXED USE PROJECTS ON EAST 12TH CAME IN WELL UNDER THE TWO TO ONE FAR PERMITTED BY THEIR CSA ZONING UNLIMITED FAR AS UNNECESSARY TO ACHIEVE CURRENT MAXIMUM HEIGHTS AND SETS EXPECTATIONS OF SOMETHING WAY OF SCALE IN THE FUTURE ALONG
WE GAVE UP COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS TO ALLOW NEW DEVELOPMENT, CLOSER TO EXISTING STRUCTURES AND EXCHANGE.
WE GAINED USE CONCESSIONS ON THE STREET, LARGELY OVER ZONE.
YES, ALCOHOL-RELATED USES WERE NOT TO BE EXPANDED BECAUSE THEY COMPETE WITH DAILY RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL SERVICES.
ONLY TWO, LOTS OF 41 ARE ZONED CS ONE AND PERMIT COCKTAIL LOUNGE PACKAGED LIQUOR SALES ARE EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED, PROHIBITED BY THE CURRENT NCCD, ANYWHERE ON THE STREET, MAKING LIQUOR SALES, CONDITIONAL AS PROPOSED IN THE YOUTH CHART MAY CREATE CONFUSION BASED OUT ZONING.
DOESN'T ALLOW IT AND IMPLIES REZONING COULD HAPPEN.
AND THAT WOULD SET THE STREET ON A DIFFERENT TRAJECTORY THAN THE ONE, THE COMMUNITY PLAN.
WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT URBAN RENEWAL SHOULD FACILITATE BARS AND LIQUOR STORES.
LIKEWISE, WE SUGGEST HOTEL MOTEL BE CONDITIONAL TO ENSURE THE FUSE DOESN'T DOMINATE THE STREET OR ENABLE ENORMOUS BARS AS ACCESSORY TO A HOTEL ON BLOCK SIZE DEVELOPMENT.
FINALLY, WE SUGGEST THE VISION STATEMENT RETAINED THE NOTION THAT THE PLAN B COMMUNITY INFORMED AND SUCCESSFUL REVITALIZED VISION IS A MIX THAT DELIVERS ON ALL OF OUR VALUES.
THIS PLAN WAS ADOPTED TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE.
UM, SO WE SHOULD BE A PART OF THE VISION STATEMENT.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE PATRICK HELP STAR SEVEN MEET, AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
MY NAME IS PATRICK, MY FAMILY AND I ARE 11 YEAR HOMEOWNERS IN RESIDENCE IN THE 1500 BLOCK OF EAST 12TH STREET WITHIN THE URBAN RENEWAL AND NCCD AREA.
THE PAST TWO YEARS, I'VE SERVED AS THE PRESIDENT OF KEELING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, MY FAMILY AND MANY OF OUR 12TH STREET NEIGHBORS HAVE REPEATEDLY FIELDED PROPOSALS TO SELL TO AN INTEREST IN MASSING PROPERTIES, ALONG AND NEARBY THE CORRIDOR
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AND TO NAME OUR PRICE SHOPPER SO FAR, WE HAVE HELD OUT, BUT WATCH MANY NEIGHBORS GIVE IN TO THE INEXPLICABLY EXCESSIVE OFFERS BECAUSE THEY WERE TRAPPED WITH NO REAL OPTIONS, BUT TO ABANDON THEIR HOMESTEADS.THEY'RE ALREADY UNDER TREMENDOUS PRESSURE TO GO.
AND NONE OF US IN ANY NEED OF MORE, I URGE YOU TO ENSURE THAT THE LOWER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USE IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED ON NEARLY HALF OF EAST 12TH STREET REMAIN PERMITTED SINGLE FAMILY, DUPLEX TOWN HOME.
ALL OF THEM ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE URBAN NEWELL PLAN VISION FOR THE STREET THAT CALLS FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD SCALED MIX OF HOUSING, ALONG WITH RETAIL AND OFFICE.
YET ALL OF OUR HOMES ARE NOW TO SOME DEGREE CALLED OUT TO BE PROHIBITED UNDER THE REVISED DOCUMENTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION STAFF AND THEIR CONSULTANTS PROPOSE PROHIBITING.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT OUR HOMES CONTRIBUTE TO THE STABILITY AND PLACE-MAKING OF CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN AND THIS PORTION OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE DISTRICT.
SO I DON'T GET WHY OUR USES SHOULD BE DISALLOWED ALONG THE TWO LANE STREET WHERE THEIR COMMON, PERSISTENT, OCCUPIED AND SUPPORTIVE OF PERMITTED USES THAT COMING AROUND US.
WHAT ARE WE IN THE WAY OF ALL THAT SAID THERE WAS A CARVE-OUT IN THE ERP AND NCCD PROPOSED TO PRESERVE OWNER ABILITY TO REPAIR, EXPAND AND REPLACE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY, DUPLEX AND TOWNHOME STRUCTURES.
EVEN AS OUR USES ARE DISALLOWED, WE ARE LISTED IN THE SAVE ACCEPT SECTION IS THE LIST OF ADDRESSES AND THE DOCUMENTS EXHAUSTIVE.
HOW WOULD AN OWNER KNOW WHAT THEIR PROPERTY WERE MISSED FROM THE LIST, OR AGAIN, MAKE SURE DESIGN ON IT.
WHAT NOTICE WOULD CALL THEIR ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE BEYOND THE QUESTION OF PERMITTED OR SAVE, EXCEPT I WANT YOU TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHO LIVES ALONG ADJACENT TO EAST 12TH, AND IT'S POTENTIALLY IMPACTED BY DISPLACEMENT PRESSURES FROM DISALLOWED USES OR FROM OUR LACK OF CARE AND CRAFTING CONTROLS THAT PROMOTE THE RETENTION OF EXISTING HOUSING STOCK.
I FALL STREET NEIGHBORS INCLUDE A HOMEOWNER OR RESIDENT FOR MORE THAN 60 YEARS WHO FOLLOWS DEVELOPMENT ISSUES, BUT DOES NOT BELIEVE THERE'S A POINT TO PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.
THE CITY OF AUSTIN WILL NEVER REACH OUT TO TELL YOU SO MANY FASCINATING AND RELEVANT THINGS.
THERE ARE RENTERS AND AFFORDABLE 1916 HOUSING THAT WILL BE, THAT WILL NOT FIND COMPARABLE, AFFORDABLE OPTIONS ANYWHERE IN THE VICINITY IS SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE IS ELIMINATED.
AND THERE'S THE SOUTH GATE LEWIS HOUSE THAT SERVES AS A HISTORIC REPOSITORY FOR BLACK HISTORY.
THANKS TO WH PASS IN SOCIETY THAT OCCUPIES THIS LANDMARK.
THAT IS THE BLOCK I LIVE ON, SO, OKAY.
I THINK, UH, THAT'S UH, WE'RE AT A TIME THERE.
SO, UM, NEXT, UH, AS WE AGREED TO, UM, GOT, UM, THREE, UH, FLOODS FOR THREE COMMISSIONERS WITH FIVE MINUTES EACH TO ASK QUESTIONS, UM, THE SPEAKERS OR STAFF, WE HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER YON IS OKAY.
UH, YES, JUST SINCE I KNOW, UM, THESE ARE REALLY EXTENSIVE DOCUMENTS AND THE SPEAKERS DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF THERE WAS, UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, LAND ON 12TH STREET RESIDENTS AND VACANCY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS WHICH RESIDENT WHICH, UH, SPEAKER IT WAS THAT MENTIONED THAT IT MIGHT'VE BEEN NATE.
I'M SORRY IF WE CUT OFF NATE JONES.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF YOU'RE THE ONE THAT BROUGHT UP THAT POINT, IF THERE'S ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT CAN SPEAK TO THAT, THAT'S FINE.
BUT I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER WHO IT WAS.
SO WHERE I WAS CUT OFF, I WAS SAYING HOW THERE ARE TWO NEW MIXED USE PROJECTS COMPLETED, ONE ON URA LAND AND ONE BY LONGTIME COMMUNITY MEMBER.
AND WE VIEW THOSE AS VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE STREET THAT BECAUSE THE STREET IS SUPPOSED TO BE A MIX OF RETAIL OFFICE AND HOUSING, THAT HONORS CONTEXT, RIGHT.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO MANY BLOCKS OF VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED LOTS AS WELL AS UNDER UTILIZED STRUCTURES.
AND THOSE ARE A BIG, A BIG QUESTION MARKS FOR THE PROJECT AND THE COMMUNITY.
SO BASICALLY THE URP AND NCCD, AS WELL AS I RENEWAL BOARD ARE MUCH NEEDED TO GUIDE WHATEVER MAY BE IN STORE.
SO WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE SUPPORT THE
IT WAS JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE.
UM, I CAN GET BACK MY TIME FOR QUESTIONS.
UH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS.
SO THAT MOVES US INTO, UH, OH, COMMISSIONERS ARE, GO AHEAD.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, THIS IS ALSO THE TIME FOR COMMISSIONERS TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THE GROUPING AMENDMENT SPECIFICALLY.
THIS IS JUST, UH, AFTER WE'VE COMPLETED
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OUR SPEAKERS, YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS TO STAFF RELATED TO ANY OF THESE ITEMS. IF YOU NEED SOME CLARIFICATION.UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE HEARD FROM THEM.
SO WE HAVE TIME HERE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS OF EITHER THE SPEAKERS OR STAFF.
SO, UH, COMMISSIONER MISH TELLER, UM, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS WAS TALKING ABOUT THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES I WAS TRYING, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS GOING TO BE A STAFF QUESTION CAUSE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON THAT, AND THERE I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UM, THE SINGLE FAMILY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED, EXCEPT I GUESS IT'S CALLED A SAVE AND EXCEPT WITH THE ADDRESSES FOR THE ONES THAT ARE IN PLACE.
AND SO I GUESS THIS IS FOR STAFF LEGAL, BECAUSE I, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO CONFIRM THAT IF WE HAVE, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE MOVING THIS SO THAT WE DON'T ALLOW SF, BUT IT IS EXISTING THAT THOSE FOLKS ARE PROTECTED WITH THE SAVE AND ACCEPT POLICY IN THIS.
AND THAT WAS FOR, FOR STAFF, I GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE LEGAL OR WHO CAN ANSWER THAT.
UM, HE IS, UH, DO WE HAVE SOME STEP ON THESE ITEMS? SURE.
SO WE HAVE, UM, MR. MARK WALTERS AND LAURA KEATING.
AND WHEN DID YOU ANSWER THIS SERVICE TO OTHERS? QUESTION? THIS IS LARA.
SO WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH LEGAL, UM, ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
SO THE USES THAT ARE LISTED UNDER SAVE AND EXCEPT, AND FOR SINGLE FAMILY, THEY INCLUDE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE AREA BECAUSE IT STAYED IN IT EXCEPT THE USERS CAN CONTINUE FOR AS LONG AS THEY WANT TO ON THAT ADDRESS, THEY DO NOT BECOME NON-CONFORMING, UM, BY THE PASSAGE OF THIS ORDINANCE.
UM, I GUESS I HAD, AND WE'RE ALLOWED TO ASK A QUESTION OF THE, OF OUR WORKING GROUPS SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND MY FOLLOWING CORRECTLY.
UH, YOU CAN, BUT I THINK ONCE WE GET INTO THE AMENDMENTS AND THEY DESCRIBED THEM, THAT WOULD BE AT A BETTER TIME FOR THOSE QUESTIONS.
MR. COPS, IF MS. JOSEPH IS STILL ON THE LINE, I THINK SHE WAS CUT OFF BECAUSE OF THE PLAN LIMIT WITH OUR SPEAKERS.
AND SPECIFICALLY, I'M CURIOUS IF SHE HAS ANY PARTICULAR SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT RELATED TO THIS ITEM TO, TO HELP ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
MRS. JOSEPH, IT FEELS LIKE STAR SIX AND PROCEED.
UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT THE COMMISSIONER WANTED ME TO RESPOND TO? I BELIEVE YOU WERE, YOU WERE CUT OFF, UM, WITH THE TIME LIMIT, BUT, BUT I WAS SPECIFICALLY INTERESTED IN IF YOU HAD ANY SPECIFIC ACTION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO TAKE ON, ON THIS ITEM, UH, TO HELP ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS THAT YOU STATED.
UM, YES, COMMISSIONER, UH, MY CONCERNS WERE MAINLY, UH, CULTURAL, UH, PRESERVATION, UH, AND THE AREA NEAR THE DEDRICK HAMILTON HOUSE.
SO BLOCK 16, I JUST, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR LIMITATIONS ARE AS IT RELATES TO THE CULTURAL ASPECT OF IT, BUT I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE SOMEHOW SO THAT IT'S NOT OVERLOOKED.
AND THEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE FLORIDA AREA RATIO WITH THERE BEING NO RESTRICTIONS.
I JUST THINK THAT, UM, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF AMENDMENT SO THAT THERE IS A RESTRICTION.
SO YOU SORTA ADDRESS THAT AS IT RELATES TO RESIDENTIAL.
I JUST THINK THAT THE PATTERN THAT WE'VE SEEN THUS FAR, UM, IT IS JUST NOT INCLUDE AFRICAN-AMERICANS BECAUSE OF OUR LOW WAGES.
AND SO I JUST, I THINK TO SOME EXTENT, IF YOU COULD JUST ADDRESS THAT AND INCLUDE SOME TYPE OF LANGUAGE OR AMENDMENT THAT WOULD CONSIDER THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME, UM, AND THE CULTURAL PRESERVATION THAT WOULD, THAT
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WOULD BE HELPFUL.WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT HOUSE AGAIN, THAT YOU MENTIONED? IT'S THE DEDRICK HAMILTON HOUSE.
IT'S THE LITTLE LEMON YELLOW HOUSE.
THAT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL AND HERITAGE FACILITY.
AND SO WHILE THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION, THE LITTLE HOUSE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A NAME ON IT.
AND THAT'S THE HOUSE THAT WAS, UM, ACTUALLY IT WAS IN FIVE GENERATIONS, BUT IT WAS EMINENT DOMAIN THAT WAS TAKEN FROM, UH, THE HAMILTON.
SO, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE OF, WE SAY HISTORIC PRESERVATION, BUT RIGHT THERE IN THE AREA THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT, UM, IT'S JUST NOT REALLY COME TO FRUITION.
I MEAN, THE HOUSE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A NAME.
IT'S JUST A LITTLE LEMON, YELLOW HOUSE.
UM, IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING WHERE THE AREA I'M TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S REALLY SIGNIFICANT, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT.
I JUST, UM, FROM A COST, I ENGAGED THE PROCESS JUST, UM, FOR THE BACKSTORY TO BE QUICK ABOUT IT, THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES AND VISITOR BUREAU AND ALL OF THAT, I ENGAGED THAT PROCESS SEVEN MONTHS AND OUT OF THE PROCESS CAME THE MAYOR'S DOWNTOWN PUZZLE.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE WERE TRYING TO GET SOME TYPE OF PRESERVATION FOR THAT AREA, IT JUST DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION THAT WAY.
SO IF IT CAN HAPPEN THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL YOU, YOU, YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT THE CITY MANAGER WAS GOING TO BRING SOME SORT OF PROPOSAL TO COUNCIL.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR WERE YOU MENTIONING SOMETHING DIFFERENT? WELL, THE CITY MANAGER IS BEING ASKED TO LOOK AT, IT WAS ITEM 67 AND THE CITY MANAGER WAS ACTUALLY BEING ASKED TO RETURN THE COUNCIL WITH A CULTURAL SPACE AND TO LOOK AT THE ASSETS IN THE CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN AREA.
BUT AS YOU KNOW, THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD, THIS IS LIKE THE LAST TWO PARCELS THAT THE CITY OWNS.
AND SO IT JUST WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT YOU'D GIVE HIM AT LEAST UNTIL AUGUST 1ST, 2021 TO CONSIDER THIS AREA IN THE CONTEXT OF THE REZONING THAT'S TAKEN PLACE.
I MEAN, THIS, THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL HERITAGE CENTER IS RIGHT THERE ON THE SITE.
AND COUNCIL HAS ASKED HIM TO COME BACK, UM, AND THEY'VE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT URBAN RENEWAL HAS BEEN DETRIMENTAL TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
SO IT WOULD JUST SEEM A PREMATURE IF YOU MOVE FORWARD AND COUNCIL DOESN'T AT LEAST CONSIDER THE RESOLVING THAT'S ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE MY ASK IS JUST TO CONSIDER THAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO COME BACK BY, UM, AUGUST 1ST, 2021, UM, AFTER LOOKING AT THE ASSETS THAT THE CITY OWNS IN A CENTRAL ETHOS SCENARIO.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
SO THAT IS THE THREE QUESTIONS, FIVE MINUTES EACH.
UH, NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO, UM, THE GROUPINGS THAT WE, UH, VOTED ON AND I'M GOING TO PULL UP A SHEET HERE.
SO, UM, COMMISSIONER IS, ARE, UH, BASED ON THE PAPERWORK I HAVE HERE.
WE HAVE, THE FIRST GROUP IS, UH, WE'RE APPROVING ITEMS, WHAT AMENDMENTS ONE, THREE, AND TWO TOGETHER.
AND I GUESS WE'RE GIVING YOU, I'M NOT GOING TO START THE CLOCK YET, BUT, UH, WE'RE GIVING YOU THREE MINUTES, UH, TO COVER THESE.
UM, I DON'T THINK I WAS SPECIFIC IF IT WAS THREE MINUTES FOR A GROUP OR, OR PER ITEM.
SO IF YOU NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME, I THINK WE CAN GIVE IT TO YOU, BUT IF WE CAN KEEP THE DESCRIPTION OF THESE, UH, THIS GROUPING, UH, TO THREE MINUTES, I'LL LET YOU OR MEMBERS OF THE WORKING GROUP.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS WANT TO TACKLE THIS, BUT WHO'S GOING TO PRESENT ON THE, THIS FIRST GROUP.
COMMISSIONERS ARE THANK YOU, CHAIR.
UM, AND I GUESS I'LL START WITH THE FIRST GROUP AND IF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO GET A GROUPING, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
SO JUST THE FIRST GROUP THERE.
SO THERE'S THREE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THIS CAMPAIGN.
THEY ALL RELATE TO THE 11TH STREET NCCD.
THE FIRST ITEM, WHICH IS ONE, IS ESSENTIALLY A MAP OF SUB-DISTRICTS.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE SUB DISTRICTS, THERE ARE 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR.
THE FOURTH SUB DISTRICT WAS RECOMMENDED THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD, BUT AFTER A LOT OF DISCUSSION AMONGST OUR WORKING GROUP, WE FELT THAT THERE WAS A NEED TO KEEP IT AS A SEPARATE, UM, SEPARATE SUBDISTRICT AND THE NEED WAS TO REFLECT THE OTHER, UH, AMENDMENTS.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO PASS HIM TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS MAP WOULD BE REQUIRED TO ACTUALLY REFER BACK TO FOUR OTHER AMENDMENTS.
THE SECOND AMENDMENTS IN THE SUBSTANTIVE IN NATURE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE FAR LIMITATIONS.
SO FOR SUB DISTRICT ONE, WE WOULD GO DOWN, DO A FIR OF TREATY ONE FOR SUBDISTRICT TWO.
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WOULD GO TO A FAR OF DUE TO ONE FOR SUB DISTRICT THREE.AND THIS IS BASED ON EXISTING FFR THAT EXISTED ON THE CURRENT NCCD.
UM, AND THE OTHER TWO WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, GO UP TO THE HIGHEST INDICTMENT FOR THOSE DISTRICTS AS WELL.
AND THEN SUB DISTRICT FOUR, WHICH IS THE MORE RESIDENT, UH, ESSENTIALLY IT GOES INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S PART OF ROSEBUD.
AND AS IT TURNS OUT OF THE 11TH STREET AREA, AND FOR THIS AREA, WE'RE SAYING THAT IT WOULD GO BACK TO ITS GRANT-BASED ZONING, FDR EXCEPT WAIT GRADES IN NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE HEIGHT, UM, IS AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO.
SO TRACKING NUMBER TWO, THE NEXT AMENDMENT, IF YOU LOOK AT IT AND THIS AGAIN, REFLECTS BACK TO, UH, UM, UH, SUB DISTRICT MAP THAT WE'VE PRESENTED AND THIS LARGELY ALIGNS WITH WHAT STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED, EXCEPT FOR, OR SUB-DISTRICT FOR WHERE WE ARE TAKING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE U RB AGAIN, WITH OUR OWN CONSIDERATION THAT WE WOULD TAKE THE HEIGHTS BACK THROUGH ACTUALLY THEIR BASE, UM, AS, AS UNDERGROUND ZONING TODAY.
AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS WHAT THE STAFF HAD PROPOSED WAS A FOUR SUB DISTRICT T, WHICH IS ALONG THE HIGHWAY.
IT WOULD BE BY TRACT, UM, AS IT IS TODAY, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF VERY SPECIFIC THERE FOR SUB DISTRICT ONE, WHICH IS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
IT WOULD LARGELY BE 60 FEET, EXCEPT FOR, IN SOME PLACES 30 FEET WHERE BRULEE IS ADJOINING THEM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES RIGHT AT THE BACK OF THEM.
AND THEN IN SOME DISTRICT TWO, WHICH IS BEHIND THE MAIN STREET ITSELF, WE WOULD GO DOWN TO THE 40 FEET, WHICH AGAIN, IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION THEM WHERE YOU'LL SEE THAT THE HEIGHTS FOR SUB DISTRICT FOR OUR LITTLE BIT VARY, BUT AS LARGELY, BECAUSE THAT IS BASED ON THE BASE REQUIREMENT, A BASE ALLOWANCE THAT IS TODAY.
SO I THINK I'LL JUST STOP THERE.
AND I WOULD DRILL YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE ALL THREE OF THESE TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY REFLECT PARTIALLY WILL BE AT A HARD RIGHT TO REALLY WHAT WE OURSELVES TAUGHT, MADE SENSE WITH PLANNING PRINCIPLES, UM, AND ALSO RELIED ON THE IRB PROPOSAL.
BUT I THINK WITH A DEEP CONSIDERATION FOR THE WORKING GROUP THAT WE THINK THAT MADE SENSE.
SO I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS TEACHER CHAIR YOU'RE MUTED.
THEN ONCE YOU GET A CHAIR, DOG BARKING AGAIN, UH, LET'S SAY SO AT THAT, UM, WE NOW HAVE A ROOM FOR FIVE COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, THREE MINUTES EACH, AND YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS, UH, TO REPEAT SPEAKERS, STAFF, THE WORKING GROUP, OR OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
UH, SO YOU CAN ASK, UH, PRETTY MUCH ANYONE.
I'LL BE TRACKING THESE WHO WANTS THE FIRST QUESTION, COMMISSIONER SHEA, APPRECIATE IT ALL THE CAREFUL THOUGHT THAT'S GONE INTO ALL OF THIS, ESPECIALLY THE HYPE THAT I WAS LOOKING AT, SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT STAFF HAD MADE, AND IT, IT TALKS ABOUT SOME OTHER PROPOSALS THAT WE HAVE ARE LIMITING AGAINST WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, THE ENTITLEMENTS THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.
SO MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT CONSIDERED A TAKING, AND IF STAFF CAN KIND OF TALK TO US ABOUT THAT, ABOUT US LIMITING FURTHER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE, AND ARE WE IN JEOPARDY OF, UH, CAUSING A POTENTIAL TAKING ISSUE? THIS IS LAURA HOUSING AND PLANNING.
UM, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHETHER IT IS CONSIDERED A TAKING, BUT CURRENTLY THE AREA THAT THE NOTED THAT SOME DISTRICTS FOUR IS ACTUALLY IN SUB DISTRICT ONE AND TWO, AND THE CURRENT MCTD THE BASE ZONINGS.
UM, DOESN'T REALLY INFORM THE ENTITLEMENT IN THE CURRENT NCCD.
AND SO WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THERE'S A REDUCTION IN BOTH SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND YOUTH ALLOWANCES, UM, A FEW OF THE SPEAKERS, UH, WHO WERE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THAT AREA SPOKE ABOUT BEFORE.
AND SO THAT'S JUST STUFF CONCERN IS THAT IT'S A REDUCTION IN ENTITLEMENT AND BECAUSE THE BASE ZONING VARIES IN THAT AREA, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR EACH PROPERTY.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A POTENTIAL TAKE.
I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T PROVED IT YET, BUT I MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME, YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH AND WE START, UM, PICKING WAY, YOU KNOW, LANDOWNER'S RIGHTS FROM WHERE THEY HAVE IT'S, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S A POTENTIAL FOR, FOR THAT ISSUE.
AND, UM, I JUST, I DON'T KNOW.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE, WHAT I'M PLANNING COMMISSION CAN SIT ON THAT AND POTENTIALLY RECOMMEND SOMETHING AND THEN LET LET LEGAL SORTED OUT.
UM, I'M NOT SURE, BUT THAT IS A CONCERN THAT I HAVE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF LEGAL CAN MAYBE CHIME IN ON THAT AT A CERTAIN POINT.
SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW.
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DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER SHEA THROUGH TIME? I MEAN, I, I WOULD REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM, I MEAN, UNDERSTAND WHAT STAFF IS SAYING, BUT THEY BASICALLY JUST REPEATED WHAT TA TAKING IS, BUT I MEAN, DOES, I MEAN, I I'M, I'M HOPING THAT MAYBE STAFF CAN LET, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS.UM, SO, BUT I MEAN, I WAS HOPING LEGAL COULD MAYBE CHIME IN IF WE CAN EVEN DO THIS, BUT, UM, IF I STILL HAVE TIME, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE THEN IS, UM, BECAUSE URBAN UNION, BECAUSE USUALLY THE NCCD MIMICS THE, THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND AT THIS POINT, IF WE CHANGE OUR, IF OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO THE NCCD, BECAUSE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD HAS ALREADY MADE THEIR CHANGES, THEN, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE PRETTY LIMITED ON WHAT WE COULD TWEAK.
IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, SINCE WE'RE SO FAR DOWN THE LINE, I MEAN, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT COULD BE DONE FOR AFFORDABILITY? YOU KNOW, LIKE WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT OUR CODE AND NEEDING SOMETHING FOR MORE AFFORDABILITY, MAYBE DENSITY BONUS, BUT BECAUSE THIS PLAN HAS BEEN HERE FOR SO MANY YEARS, THAT TOOL ISN'T IN HERE, AND IF WE ARE GOING TO BE TWEAKING ENTITLEMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, GIVING MORE ENTITLEMENTS, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT, BUT IF AN URBAN RENEWAL BOARD NEVER GAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF TWEAKING THE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE KNOBS, THEN THAT LEAVES US WITH VERY FEW TOOLS THAT WE CAN EVEN DO.
SO MAYBE THE WORKING GROUP CAN MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT IF THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY IN THERE OR NOT, BUT, OKAY.
I THINK WE'RE, UM, AT A TIME, UH, SO LET'S, UH, THREE MINUTES, FIVE AND THREE.
AND, UH, THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER WITH QUESTIONS?
SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.
I WAS REMISS, UH, YES, PLEASE DO IT.
HAD A STAFF WAS, UH, CLARIFIED WHERE THEY SUPPORTED OR DID NOT SUPPORT THESE AMENDMENTS.
SECOND COMMISSIONER WITH QUESTIONS.
I FINISHED HER CUPS FAIR WITH MY QUESTIONS ON THIS.
WE'RE GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY DUMB BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE LITTLE CONFUSED BY THIS WHOLE PROCESS, BUT, UM, AND, AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR, UH, STAFF.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SETTING HEIGHTS, UH, EITHER BY TRACT OR BY OR THROUGH GROUP THIS PROCESS, UM, DOES THAT PROHIBIT IN THE FUTURE, IF WE START SETTING TRACK HEIGHTS AT A CERTAIN HEIGHT, DOES THAT STILL ALLOW, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS TO COME BEFORE US AND REQUEST CHANGES TO THAT AND REQUEST CHANGES TO THE ZONING? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT EXACT LIMITATIONS ARE REPLACING BY SETTING THESE TIGHT EITHER BY TRACTOR THROUGH THIS AMENDMENT? UM, COMMISSIONER SENIOR, HEAR ME.
THIS IS MARK WALTERS, HOUSING AND PLANNING.
I IN SUB DISTRICT FOR WHAT IS CALLED SUB DISTRICT FOUR, THAT ISN'T TIED TO THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN, UH, TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SAYS THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN SUPERSEDES, UH, LOCAL MUNICIPAL LAND USE REGULATION.
BUT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN IN LORCH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT THAT, SO BEFORE THEY COULD COME IN AND ASK FOR AMENDMENTS TO THE NCC DATES, AND IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE ANY CHANGES TO THE PLAN, IF THEY DID COME IN AND ASK, SOMEONE CAME IN AND ASKED FOR CHANGES THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN, AS WELL AS THE NCCD, IT MAY TRIGGER AN AMENDMENT TO THE NCCD AND THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN.
SO THE DOES NOTHING PRECLUDES THEM FROM COMING BACK, BUT IT DOES, UH, PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE PROPERTIES, MOST LIKELY WITHIN SUBDISTRICTS ONE AND TWO ON EAST 11TH STREET, THAT WOULD ADD AN ADDED LAYER OF, UH, RISK AND COMPLEXITY TO ANY ZONING CASE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT NORMALLY EXISTS.
UM, AND MY NEXT QUESTION, I THINK IS REALLY ANYONE, ANY COMMISSIONER IN THE WORKING GROUP, UM, THAT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I I'M,
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I'M LOOKING AT STAFF BASIS OF RECOMMENDATION.AND THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS THEY QUOTE ONE OF THE GOALS, WHICH IS CHAMPIONS, SUSTAINABLE REVITALIZATION, REFLECTING DIVERSITY, ACHIEVING EQUITY, AND PRESERVING EAST AUSTIN, CULTURAL FIFTH GRADE, WHETHER IT'S, WHETHER IT'S THESE PARTICULAR AMENDMENT OR FUTURE AMENDMENTS IN MIGHT GET TO, DOES ANY OF THE WORKING GROUP COMMISSIONERS WANT TO SPEAK TO HOW THEIR AMENDMENT HELP ACHIEVE THAT GOAL? I CAN, I CAN START OFF, BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SPACE FOR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
SO I THINK, UM, REFLECTING ON THOSE ITEMS, I THINK THERE WERE A FEW THINGS.
SO ONE WAS STICKING TO A LOT OF, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAD BEEN MADE BY STAFF THAT REALLY RESPOND TO WALKABILITY, LIKE LIMITING, FOR EXAMPLE, HOTEL MOTEL USE ON THE FIRST FLOOR OR LIMITING SORT OF OTHER USES.
SO WE'RE SORT OF MAINTAINING THE WALKABILITY ASPECT.
WE'RE ALSO KEEPING THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT VIABLE FOR BOTH 11TH AND 12TH STREET.
SO A LOT OF THOSE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED REMAIN.
UM, I THINK THAT IS WHERE I WOULD SAY MOST OF THE WALKABILITY AND COMMERCIAL ASPECT IS IN TERMS OF THE INDICTMENTS.
UM, I THINK OUR CONVERSATIONS WERE SORT OF TWO FOLD.
I THINK ONE WAS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 11TH OF DRILL TREAT NCCD, WE'RE KEEPING SORT OF THE VIABILITY OF THE SITES IN CHECK BY PROVIDING THOSE FL LEVELS, WHICH ARE ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN WHAT IS IN THE GRANT NCCD.
SO WE'RE GOING FROM DO AT MAXIMUM 2, 3, 1 AT MAXIMUM TO DO IN THE DIFFERENT SUB DISTRICTS, EXCEPT FOR THAT SUB DISTRICT OR WHERE IT WILL BE VARIABLE.
UM, SO I THINK AGAIN, WE'RE SORT OF RESPONDING TO THAT, KEEPING THE VIABILITY BESIDES FOR DEVELOPING WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK OUR OTHER CONSIDERATION WAS PARTICULARLY FOR THAT SUBDISTRICT FOR THAT, IF THERE IS A CHANGE THAT IS REQUIRED FOR REZONING OR SOMETHING, THEN IT REALLY OPENS IT UP FOR A GROUP, MAYBE CONVERSATION.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT COMMUNITY CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THOSE SITES TO ALLOW FOR EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT THAT REALLY RESPONDS TO COMMUNITY NEEDS AND RESPONDS TO HOW THE SPACE IS EVOLVING OVER TIME.
BUT THAT WAS THE LAST COMMISSIONER IS OUR LET'S GO.
UM, I'M LETTING IT RUN OUT OF SOMETHING.
I'D FIND A GOOD BREAK, UH, DRIVE A COMMISSIONER THAT WANTS TO CONTINUE WITH THIS ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION, COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
I'D LIKE TO START BY JUST ASKING COMMISSIONERS ARE TO FINISH WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
UM, I'M ONLY, I GUESS I'LL JUST QUICKLY MENTION ONE LAST THING, WHICH IS TO SAY THAT AS YOU GO THROUGH THEM, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE MAKING ALSO CHANGES TO THE VISION STATEMENT TO REFLECT THOSE ASPECTS.
AND THEN LASTLY, TO REALLY SAY THAT, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO LIVE UP TO THAT ASPECT OF ALLOWING, UM, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT USE OF THE SITE BASED ON THE EXISTING USERS, BUT ALSO NOT EXPANDING USERS SUCH AS THE LIQUOR SALES HOTEL MOTEL, WHICH WOULD NOT SERVE THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT COMMUNITIES.
SO I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE WERE DOING A LOT OF OUR WORK ON WHAT WOULD REALLY SERVE THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES.
AND THAT IS WHERE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COMING FROM.
UM, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NCCD IS REALLY IN THIS AREA.
IT'S JUST REALLY SPEAKS TO THE WAY IN WHICH PLANNING IN THE CITY IS TERRIBLY UNEVEN.
THERE ARE PARTS OF DOWNTOWN WHERE WE'RE NOT WILLING TO ALLOW THIS KIND OF DENSITY.
AND YET HERE WE ARE ON 11TH AND 12TH STREET ENCOURAGING IT, YOU KNOW, WITH THINGS LIKE UNLIMITED FAR AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE REALLY SHOULD THINK ABOUT THAT ABOUT THE WAY THE NCCD, UM, HAS CREATED A VERY UNEVEN PATCH OF SUPER-INTENSE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH IN EAST AUSTIN WHEN WE WOULDN'T ENCOURAGE THAT IN OTHER PARTS OF WEST AUSTIN.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS A FRAME OF REFERENCE, IT'S WORTH THINKING ABOUT A SIMILAR RESIDENTIAL STREET SOMEWHERE IN, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER PARTS OF TOWN, WOULD WE EVER EVEN BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT ALLOWING UNLIMITED FAR? YOU KNOW, SO, SO IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF UNEVEN PLANNING.
AND I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT BY SAYING, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN MAYBE SLOW DOWN A PROCESS THAT'S BEING JUST RAILROADED THROUGH, UM, IN A, IN A, IN WHAT IS STILL A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, AS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE HEARD ON THE PHONE, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHO, WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN AND WHO HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE, BUT MAYBE BY DOING THIS, WE ALLOW THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.
UH, SO I'M JUST KEEPING COUNT HERE.
UH, COMMISSIONER YON IS PLATO.
YOU'RE THE FOURTH COMMISSIONER WITH QUESTIONS.
WELL, I WOULDN'T WANT IT TO RESPOND TO OTHER COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO, UH, WAIT UNTIL THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS AND THEN I CAN CHIME IN AT THE END.
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UM, OKAY, WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD.WE HAVE, UH, FIVE COMMISSIONERS, UH, THREE MINUTES EACH.
SO THE FOURTH WHO WANTS TO TAKE THE FOREST SPOT, I WOULD GO AHEAD AND USE THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER, JUST PULL IT UP.
I THINK, UH, I WANT TO UNDERSCORE WHAT MY FELLOW WORKING GROUP MEMBERS HAVE SAID.
I THINK INCOME AND RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER COX IS A QUESTION.
WE WERE LOOKING AT THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE OF THE IMPACT OF THE NCCD ON THIS AREA, IN TERMS OF, UH, TO COMMISSIONER CONNELLY'S POINT, WHAT WE SAW AS, UM, SOMEWHAT INEQUITABLE APPLICATION OF REALLY UNLIMITED, UM, ENTITLEMENTS AND SOME OF THE, UH, SUGGESTIONS TO FAR, UM, TO MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE.
WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED A TAKING, IT'S NOT RENDERING LAND UNUSABLE.
UM, THERE ARE, THERE IS PRECEDENT TO, UM, MAKING SOME OF THESE KINDS OF REDUCTIONS IN HEIGHT, UM, OR INTENSITY OF USE, UH, IN OTHER AREAS OF, OF EAST AUSTIN.
AND THEY PRIMARILY BEEN DONE, UM, WITH EQUITY AND MORE, UH, HOLISTIC, RESPONSIBLE COMMUNITY PLANNING PRINCIPLES IN MIND.
UM, SO THAT WAS THE SPIRIT OF THIS, UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT'S NOT OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW.
UM, AND WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS WITH A LOT OF, AGAIN, HISTORICAL CONTEXT, UM, COMING IN ABOUT HOW ENTITLEMENTS GOT PROPOSED TO BE SO GREAT ON SOME OF THESE BLOCKS.
CAN I USE THE REST OF THIS LOT TO ASK A QUESTION FROM STAFF? SURE.
UM, MS. KEATON, CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND? SO IF I LOOK AT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY YOU'RE ALREADY DECREASING GRANT INDICTMENTS.
SO PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, BUT IN DISTRICT TWO, WE'RE GOING FROM 60 TO 50 FEET DOWN TO 40.
SO WE'RE LOSING, WE'RE DECREASING ENTITLEMENTS BY 10 TO 20 FEET WITHIN THE STAFF'S OWN RECOMMENDATION.
AM I CORRECT? IN MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, YES, THE, UM, IN SOME DISTRICT TO THE HEIGHTENED TOURNAMENTS ARE ALSO PARTIALLY CONTROLLED BY THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN.
SO THEY AREN'T THE SAME FOR, FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE DISTRICT TOO.
AND I GUESS I WOULD TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT WITHIN THAT CONTEXT, WAS THERE ANY CONVERSATION AROUND DIGGING OR OTHERWISE SINCE THAT WAS INDEED PART OF THE BASE MOTION THAT STAFF, UM, AND YOU WILL BE HAD RECOMMENDED.
CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I DIDN'T HEAR IT CLEARLY.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE THAT WITHIN THAT.
UM, SO DECREASE IN HIGH-DEMAND SUBDISTRICT.
DO, WAS THERE ANY CONVERSATION AMONG STAFF ABOUT DEAKIN IS THAT WAS PROPOSED ABOUT IT BEING A TAKING? I DON'T THINK SO.
HER QUESTION ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WAS CLOSE TO THE WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS, THE ADJUSTMENT AND HEIGHT.
UM, I THINK IT WAS RESPONDING TO THE EXISTING RESTRICTIONS, UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MTTB AND THE PLAN AND ALLOWING FOR ACCESS DOWN FROM 11TH STREET.
AND IF I MAY COMMISSIONER, UH, THE EXISTING TOWNHOUSES BEHIND WHERE THE ST JOHN'S BUILDING IS, THOSE ARE ABOUT 40 FEET TALL.
SO IN LIMITING SUB DISTRICT TWO TO 43, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A CONSISTENT, A STEP BACK FROM 11TH STREET TO THOSE PROPERTIES FRONTING, UH, FACING NORTH ON JUNIPER STREET.
SO WE'RE NOW AT OUR LAST, UH, QUESTION ON THIS, UH, GROUPING OF AMENDMENTS.
DO WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER TO TAKE UP THE FINAL SPOT? AND, UM, SOME OF THAT, IF, UH, SOME OF IT HASN'T ASKED YOU A QUESTION AND IF NOT ALL ALLOW SOMEBODY TO JUMP IN, BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE NOT ASKED A QUESTION, ANYONE WANT TO TAKE THE LAST SPOT LOOKING AROUND.
NOW COMMISSIONERS THAT I'VE ALREADY ASKED A QUESTION ON SEEING COMMISSIONER COX, I BELIEVE.
COMMISSIONER HOWARD, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? OKAY.
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OF GOING TO BE LIKE AN AUCTION HERE.IF I SEE YOUR HAND UP, I'M GOING TO CALL ON YOU COMMISSIONER COX.
I ONLY WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION IF, IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS AND IT KIND OF LOOPS BACK TO MY FIRST QUESTION TO STAFF.
UM, SO WE, I THINK I HEARD A MENTION OF POTENTIALLY THERE'S SOME SORT OF REZONING THAT'S POSSIBLY BEING PROPOSED FOR THE LOT THAT HAS THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURAL INHERITANCE FACILITY, AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN THESE NEW ZONING ENTITLEMENTS RESTRICTION THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THIS.
SO WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT COMPLICATE ANYTHING RELATED TO SECURING A REZONING OF THAT PROPERTY IF THEY WANTED SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED WITH THESE AMENDMENTS OR WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND THAT'S FOR STAFF, WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY, UH, PROPOSAL TO REZONE THAT PROPERTY, THAT PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE URBAN RENEWAL AGENCY ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UM, THE SALE OF THAT PROPERTY THAT ARE ONGOING.
MAYBE THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF, IF AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, THEY DID WANT TO REZONE THAT PROPERTY AND WHAT THEY WANTED WAS SOMEHOW IN CONFLICT WITH THE PROPOSED NCCD CHANGES OR RULES OR AMENDMENTS, UM, WOULD THEY BE PROHIBITED ANY WAY SPEAKING THAT REZONING OR WOULD THEY JUST GO THROUGH THE STANDARD PROCESS COME TO US? AND WE WOULD EVALUATE IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS? YES, THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THE STANDARD REZONINGS OFFSETS, BUT THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO GO THROUGH A CHANGE OF THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN, UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THAT PLANNING BOUNDARY.
SO THEY WOULD, UM, START BY GOING THROUGH THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD, UM, AND THEN COMING TO Y'ALL AND THAT'S SIMILAR TO LIKE ONE TO AMEND A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AMENDMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND IT'S, IT'S THE PROCESS THAT STEVE, UH, AMENDMENTS ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
IN ADDITION TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, THE COUNCIL IS MARK WALTERS CAUSING PLENTY, BUT COUNCIL RESOLUTION DIRECTING US TO DO UPDATE THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN.
AND THE NCCD IS ONE OF THE GOALS OF IT WAS ALSO TO HELPING THE DISTANCES FINAL DISPOSITION AND SALE OF THOSE TWO AGENCY ON PROPERTIES ON, ON EAST 11TH STREET.
SO THAT WAS PART OF THE COUNCIL DIRECTION TO THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD AND STAFF.
COMMISSIONER'S ALREADY, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT INDEED.
IN FRONT OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE THAT SAYS NINE, 12 EAST 11TH, THAT'S ACTUALLY ALSO ZONED HISTORICAL.
SO IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AND I GUESS I WOULD WONDER A STAFF GROUP CLARIFY, I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY IMPACT ANY REDEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOT THESE OWNERS EACH WITH THE H DESIGNATION, THEN IT HAS ALL THE PROTECTION.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF GOING THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY.
UM, SO BEFORE WE GET INTO THE MOTIONS, UH, DO WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ADEQUATE Q AND A TIME FOR YOU UNDERSTAND THESE AMENDMENTS? UH, BECAUSE AT THIS TIME WE COULD VOTE TO EXTEND THE Q AND A, UM, IF NEEDED OR CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE HAVE FOR Q AND A.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS.
I KNOW I'M PUSHING REALLY HARD TO GET DONE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
SO, UM, I JUST WANT TO, ARE WE GOOD WITH WHAT WE HAVE SET OUT AS FAR AS THE, UH, FIVE, HONESTLY, THERE'S WITH, UH, THREE, FIVE CONDITIONERS FOR THREE MINUTES EACH, IS THAT ADEQUATE? OKAY.
I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE ADVOCATING FOR CHANGES.
UH, WE HAD COMPLETED THAT PART OF THIS NOW.
UM, WE'RE ENTERTAINING EMOTIONS.
AGAIN, WE HAVE, THE WORKING GROUP HAS, UH, ASKED US TO CONSIDER THESE AS A GROUP, UH, BUT WE CAN, UH, NEED A COMMISSIONER THAT WANTS TO MOTION FOR THAT OR SOMETHING.
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IN LINE WITH THAT AS A STARTING POINT.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE WORKING GROUP'S RECOMMENDATION FOR GROUP ONE, WHICH WOULD BE THE 11TH STREET, UM, SUB DISTRICT, THE 11TH STREET AND SEES THE HEIGHT AND 11TH STREET AFFAIR.
DO I HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER CONLEY, DO WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION FOR MR. INSAR? THANK YOU.
UM, I THINK WE'RE, I THINK I'VE HAD SORT OF ROBUST CONVERSATION HERE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE SOME OF THE POINTS THAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE BROUGHT UP, UM, PARTICULARLY AROUND INDICTMENTS.
AND I REALLY WANT TO CLARIFY, I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING OUR, OUR WORKING GROUP REALLY HAD A, QUITE AN IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION ON WHAT SEEMED APPROPRIATE OR NOT.
AND WE HAD HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND STAFF HAD BEEN AMAZING AT RESPONDING TO SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT.
BUT I THINK I DO WANT TO CLARIFY TWO THINGS.
ONE, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF GOING WITH WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF
AND I THINK WE'RE GOING BACK TO THAT, AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME SORT OF LOST ALONG THE WAY.
AND SO THERE'S SOMEWHAT CORRECTING THAT.
AND WE'RE ALSO SUPPORTING, I THINK THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED AROUND HERE ONE OR THE THING I QUICKLY MENTION IS ALSO TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE HEARD WE'RE WORLDLY, DECREASING HEIGHT, EVEN IN THE BASE MOTION, THAT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WHERE REVENUE BOARD THERE IS A DECREASE IN INDICTMENT IN DISTRICT TOO.
SO I THINK THAT WILL BE CERTAINLY THE CONVERSATION MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR LAW DEPARTMENT AND COUNCIL TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT IS RESOLVED.
SO I THINK AT THIS POINT I'M COMFORTABLE MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WILL BE CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS AS THIS MOVES FORWARD, BUT PRIMARY IS FAKER AGAINST THIS MOTION.
CERTAINLY COMMISSIONER SPEAKING FOR YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
UH, SO AGAIN, WE HAVE, UM, UH, THE, SORRY, I SPEAK JUST, I GUESS I'M JUST, I FIND IT FRUSTRATING THAT WE, AS A CITY COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR HOW WE WANT TO GROW, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE TO GROW AS A CITY AND WE COME UP WITH THINGS LIKE, IMAGINE AUSTIN AND SAY, WE WANT THE GROWTH ON THE CORRIDORS.
AND, AND WE WANT TO HAVE IT SLIGHTLY GO IN FROM THE CORRIDORS AND TRY TO MAINTAIN SORT OF THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT TO PUT THE GROWTH WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE THINK IT SHOULD GO.
AND IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSE IS KIND OF W WELL, MAYBE WE'RE PUSHING TOO MUCH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW ANYWHERE ON THE WEST SIDE THAT WE WOULD ALLOW A STREET LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN.
BUT WHEN WE GO TO THE WEST SIDE, WHEN WE GO TO BURN IT, WE SAY, OH, WELL, WE CAN'T HAVE 90 FEET ON BURNET BECAUSE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OUR COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS AREN'T QUITE ENOUGH AND WE CAN'T HAVE 90 FEET ON LAMAR BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WALKABLE IF, IF WE HAVE 90 FEET ON LAMAR AND CAN WE KEEP SORT OF ADDRESSING THINGS TO NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS WITHOUT EVER GETTING BACK TO, WELL, WHAT ABOUT WHAT THE CITY'S CONCERN WAS? WE HAVE TO GROW BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GROW AND, AND WE'RE ALWAYS PUSHING BACK ON NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS, WE'RE GROWING ANYWAY, AND WE'RE JUST GROWING OUT INTO THE URBAN SPRAWL AND THAT JUST SORT OF, YOU KNOW, DESTROYS THE ENVIRONMENT, DESTROYS THE COMMUNITY, DESTROYS, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT, MAKES THE TRANSPORTATION AND MAKES THESE NEIGHBORHOODS JUST MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE AND IMPOSSIBLE TO LIVE.
AND SO WE'D END UP NOT PRESERVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT PRESERVING THE PEOPLE, NOT PRESERVING EVEN THE CHARACTER.
AND WE PRESERVED, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, THE SETBACK AND THE HEIGHT LIMITATIONS, BECAUSE ALL THE, ALL THE HOUSES GET KNOCKED DOWN AND ALL THE PEOPLE GET REPLACED AND IT'S JUST DOESN'T SEEM THE APPROPRIATE WAY FORWARD.
AND WE CAN'T, WE HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE AND JUST SAY, STOP, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING NOT TO INCREASE THE ENTITLEMENTS, BUT ANOTHER THING TO SCALE THEM BACK.
ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS MOTION? I'M NOT SORRY, CONDITIONERS FOR THIS MOTION COMMISSIONER CONLEY.
SO A COUPLE OF THINGS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SCALING THEM BACK, SCALING BACK ENTITLEMENTS, WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT IN CON IN THE CONTEXT OF A SITUATION WHERE THE ENTITLEMENTS BEING PROPOSED ARE UNLIMITED FAR.
SO DOES SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD NEVER SCALE BACK FROM RIGHT.
ONCE YOU'VE GRANTED UNLIMITED? UM, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO, YOU
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CAN'T GO FORWARD.YOU CAN'T IT'S IT'S SO IT REMOVES THE POSSIBILITY OF EVER HAVING THAT CONVERSATION, BUT IN A VERY UNEVEN WAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S FUNNY THAT I'M EVEN IN THIS POSITION, BECAUSE I'M USUALLY ARGUING FOR DENSER DEVELOPMENT IN AUSTIN, AND I APPRECIATE THE NEED TO GROW AND MAKE MORE SPACE FOR PEOPLE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT'S EVEN, AND THAT'S EQUITABLE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS MODEL WHERE YOU HAVE A LITTLE PATCH, A LITTLE NCCD OVER HERE THAT JUST GRANTS, MASSIVE ENTITLEMENTS, AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER LITTLE PATCH WITH AN NCCD THAT JUST TRIES TO BLOCK ANY ENTITLEMENTS.
AND YOU HAVE THIS VERY UNEVEN PATCHWORK OF DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT KINDS OF DENSITY IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, WHICH OFTEN REFLECT THE SAME PATTERN THAT WE SAW IN THE NINETIES WHERE EAST AUSTIN CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN IS ALWAYS THE DESIRE DEVELOPMENT ZONE, RIGHT, IS ALWAYS THE PLACE WHERE WE WANT TO PUSH ALL NEW DENSITY AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT DENSER GROWTH AND THE NEED TO GROW AND THE NEED TO GO HIGHER, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN A EVEN WAY THAT IT'S COMPREHENSIVE OF THE ENTIRE CITY OF THE ENTIRE AREA SURROUNDING THE URBAN CORE.
AND THAT ISN'T JUST THIS ONE UNEVEN PATCH WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SAY, OKAY, CRAZY WILD, UNCONTROLLED GROWTH ON 11TH AND 12TH STREET.
UM, AND, AND THEN WE'LL BLOCK IT IN OTHER PLACES, INCLUDING PARTS OF DOWNTOWN.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SPIRIT SORT OF, THIS IS TO SAY, WE CAN'T JUST DO IT IN THIS WAY.
WE HAVE TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT'S COMPREHENSIVE, THAT'S EQUITABLE.
AND THAT REALLY COMPENSATES RIGHT.
FOR ENTITLEMENTS THAT ALREADY EXIST IN CERTAIN AREAS AND ENTITLEMENTS THAT DON'T EXIST IN OTHER AREAS.
SO THAT'S THE SPIRIT OF, I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, YEAH, I'M SORRY.
I'M, I'M UH, I GOT SEVERAL MESSAGES THERE.
UH, JUST REMEMBER WE GOT TWO MINUTES, ANY SPEAKERS AGAINST THIS MOTION, ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER COX? UM, TH THIS MIGHT BE MORE OF A, A NEUTRAL COMMENT.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD MENTIONED THAT, THAT I'M ALWAYS REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN IS THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE OWNERSHIP OF LAND ON OUR CORRIDOR AND WHAT WE SEE COMING BEFORE CONSTANTLY.
AND, AND COMMISSIONER THOMPSON MENTIONED THE MASSIVE APARTMENT DONUT ON BURNET AND THE MASSIVE PROPOSED APARTMENT DONUT ON SOUTH LAMAR THAT CONSOLIDATED A BUNCH OF PROPERTY.
I HATE TO SEE ALL OF THESE SMALLER PROPERTIES ON THESE BOARD, OR GET BOUGHT UP BY THESE MASSIVE DEVELOPERS WHO THEN TURN THEM INTO BIG TEXAS DONUT AND THEN, AND THEN RENT THEM OUT FOR EXORBITANT PRICES.
AND I'VE, I'VE, I SEE THE BENEFIT IN THE COMMUNITY CHARACTER, IN THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY AND HAVING THESE SMALLER SPACES, UH, THAT ARE MORE ACCESSIBLE TO OTHER OWNERS, UM, OR RENTERS OR WHATEVER THEY MAY BE.
AND, AND I HAVE TO ADMIT, I'M NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE EAST 11TH AND 12TH CORRIDORS, BUT WHAT I CAN SEE FROM IT FROM MY COMPUTER SCREEN IS WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THOSE SPACES THAT ARE, THAT ARE MORE COMMUNITY ORIENTED.
AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE THIS TURN INTO EVERY OTHER CORRIDOR THAT I'VE SEEN DEVELOP IN AUSTIN, JUST A BUNCH OF CONSOLIDATION OF PROPERTY INTO MASSIVE TEXAS DONUTS SOLD AS APARTMENT COMPLEXES, WHICH I THINK REALLY, REALLY REMOVES A LOT OF THE CHARACTER THAT WE VALUE HERE IN AUSTIN AND ESPECIALLY IN EAST AUSTIN.
AND I'M HOPING THAT SOME OF THE CHANGES, WHETHER IT'S THESE AMENDMENTS, THAT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OR WHATEVER, I HOPE THAT SOME OF THESE AMENDMENTS HELP PRESERVE SOME OF THOSE SMALLER PROPERTIES RATHER THAN THE CONSOLIDATION WE'VE SEEN IN ALL THE OTHER CORRIDORS, UH, THROUGH AUSTIN.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A REALLY A MESSAGE OF SUPPORT, BUT I HOPE THAT THAT, THAT ACCOMPLISHES.
SO I MIGHT'VE BEEN, I MIGHT'VE MISSED YOUR HANDCUFF COMMISSIONER, YOU AND HIS POLITO, AND YOU CAN TAKE ONE AT THE SLOTS IF YOU WISH.
UM, WERE YOU TRYING TO, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK, I WAS GOING TO SPEAK FOR, IF THERE'S STILL ROOM, I'LL LET YOU TAKE ONE OF THE, UH, AGAINST SPOTS JUST CAUSE I DID.
AND, UM, AND I, I DO THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE CONCERNS RAISED ARE VALID.
I ALSO AM NOT SEEING THE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE THAT DEREGULATED GROWTH AND UNLIMITED DENSITY IS SOLVING THE ISSUES OF DISPLACEMENT OR DOING ANYTHING TO PRESERVE A CULTURE OR MIXED INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, W WE TAKE WHAT WE'VE TAKEN, ALL THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, AND I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO US TO LOOK AT THE, AGAIN, HISTORICAL CONTEXT, BUT ALSO THE, THE PHYSICAL CONTEXT OF THE STREET.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BURNET OR LAMAR.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SMALL TWO LANE ROADS THAT HAVE BEEN PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE, UM, AND HAVE, UH, A DECENT AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, INCLUDING SOME VOICES
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THAT, UM, HAVE, HAVE SEEN THE HISTORICAL PATTERNS OF THIS DOCUMENT, AND UNFORTUNATELY HAVE WATCHED THEIR NEIGHBORS GETTING DISPLACED.UM, BUT WE REALLY DID HAVE A MIX OF LONGTIME VOICES OF MORE RECENT VOICES.
AND WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A FOUND A FOUNDATIONAL GROUNDWORK.
THIS IS, THIS IS A HEALTHY BALANCE OF A LOT OF IMPORTANT REFERENTIAL POINTS.
UM, TH THERE MAY BE SOME MORE WORK TO DO AROUND THE HISTORICAL PIECE, BUT THIS ALLOWS FOR MORE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE WAY.
SO, UM, THAT CONCLUDES OUR, UM, SPEAKERS, UH, I MEAN, A COMMISSIONER SPEAKING FOR IT AGAINST, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET ME RESTATE THE MOTION THAT WAS, UM, UH, MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
IT SAYS THE GROUP ONE, WHICH IS AMENDMENTS OF THE WORKING GROUP AND AMENDMENTS ONE, THREE, AND TWO, THAT COMPRISE GROUP ONE.
AND, UH, ANYWAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND SEE THOSE, UH, VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM FOR THIS MOTION.
I HAVE 11 FOUR, LET ME COUNT REAL QUICK.
AND WHO AM I MISSING? UH, NO, WE'RE GOOD.
SO WE HAVE 11, UH, VOTING IN FAVOR ONE AGAINST AND ONE ABSTAINING.
I APPRECIATE YOU MOVING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UM, WHAT I AM GOING TO, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, I'M SORRY, IF I SHARE A HANDFUL, CAN YOU, UM, UH, TAKE OVER JUST DURING THE, UH, THE NEXT GROUP ARE COVERING IS, UM, THE GROUP TWO AND HELP ME OUT CONDITIONER IS OUR, THAT IS, UH, ITEMS, UM, AMENDMENT FIVE AND SIX.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A THREE-MINUTE INTRODUCTION BY THE WORKING GROUP, AND THEN WE WILL, UM, GO INTO A Q AND A, SO I JUST NEED A QUICK BREAK.
UH VICE-CHAIR HEMPEL IF YOU COULD JUST SHARE, UH, UNTIL I GET BACK, I'LL JUST BE A FEW MINUTES.
ARE, ARE YOU SPEAKING TO THIS ONE? I THINK IN DANIEL, ONE WAS ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO TAKE OVER.
SO, UM, WE ARE THE SECOND GROUP, AND THIS IS WE'RE MOVING TO 12TH STREET.
SO THIS IS A SIMILAR CONVERSATION TO THE ONE THAT WE JUST HAD.
UM, BACK IN NUMBER FIVE, THE AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE ESSENTIALLY WOULD CHANGE THE HEIGHTS WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT THE MAP THAT IS THERE IS NOT PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT IS WITHIN THE EXISTING NCCD.
SO THOSE SUB DISTRICTS ALREADY EXIST.
WE'RE ONLY CHANGING THE HEIGHT IN THIS AMENDMENT.
SO IN SUB DISTRICT ONE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, WE WOULD GO DOWN TO 60 FEET FOR SUB DISTRICT TWO WOULD TAKE UP 35 FEET, UM, EXCEPT WHAT GRADES NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES, IN WHICH CASE THE HIGH COULD BE 50 FEET AND THEN DISTRICT, HE WOULD BE AT 35 FEET.
SO REALLY THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT WE'RE HAVING HERE IS IN SUB DISTRICT DO WHERE WE'RE GOING DOWN TO, UM, 35 FEET.
THE NUMBER SIX IS THE FFR FOR THE CRAWL STREET.
UM, AND THAT ESSENTIALLY IS MATCHING THE FDR TO THE CURRENT BASED ZONING ENTITLEMENTS IN ALL OF THOSE SUB DISTRICTS, ONE DO DEWEY AND TREAT SO WITHIN ALL OF THOSE SUB DISTRICTS, WHEN WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR IT IS, UM, ESSENTIALLY THAT WE GO BACK TO OUR EXISTING, CURRENT ZONING FAR WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING TO CREATE NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES WITHIN THOSE TWO DISTRICTS.
UM, AND I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH SPEAKS TO ALL OF THEM, EXCEPT FOR ONE THING THAT I WANT YOU TO ADD, WHICH IS DECEIT THAT WITHIN THIS DISTRICT, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IT WAS LARGELY EITHER UNDEVELOPED OR RESIDENTIAL TODAY, AND THE EXISTING HEIGHTS ARE TRULY LOWER THAN 11TH STREET.
SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN PEARL STREET AND OUR RECOMMENDATION SORT OF MIMIC WHAT IS ON GROUND TODAY.
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AND I'M NOT SEEING COMMISSIONERS SHAY AND HOWARD.I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S BANDWIDTH OR, UM, AND JUST NOT ON NO QUESTIONS.
ARE WE, UH, WITH SOMEBODY YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I MEAN, SHE WAS OUR THANK YOU AND VICE CHAIR.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT, UM, THE WORKING GROUPS AMENDMENTS FOR GROUPING TWO, WHICH INCLUDES AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE AND IMPLEMENT NUMBER SIX ON THE DRILL STREET, NCCD HEIGHT, AND THE GIRLS STREET DENSITY FFR.
I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION TOO.
I CAN RESCIND MY MOTION AND PRESENTING MY MOTION.
I JUST, I ACTUALLY JUST READ STAFF RESPONSE TO AMENDMENT FIVE, AND I'M WONDERING COMMISSIONERS ARE, IF, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT YOUR RESPONSES TO THE STAFF COMMENT ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE MORE EXTENSIVE OUTREACH TO THE EFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS WHERE WE DO HAVE A REDUCTION IN ENTITLEMENT? SO AGAIN, I WOULD OPEN THIS UP TO THE OTHER WORKING GROUP MEMBERS AS WELL, WHO CAN SUPPORT ME IN THIS, BUT I THINK I WILL SAY THAT WE DID NOT NECESSARILY REACH OUT TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS WHO MIGHT SEE A DECREASE IN ENTITLEMENTS FOR US.
I THINK IT WAS A SIMILAR CONVERSATION TO THE ONE THAT WE JUST HAD 11TH STREET AND CCD SEEING THAT WE WERE ALREADY KIND OF DOING THAT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE 11TH STREET NCCD, AND THEN ALSO WITHIN OUR OWN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT NCCD AS WELL.
SO I THINK OUR UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THAT CAN BE PART OF AN ONGOING CONVERSATION.
AND AGAIN, I THINK IF THERE'S ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS, HOPEFULLY THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT OUR LAW DEPARTMENT AND COUNCIL CAN FIGURE AS THIS GOES TO THEM.
UM, BUT BEYOND THAT, I WILL SAY WE DID NOT DO ANY EXTENSIVE OUTREACH TO THE SPECIFIC PROPERTY OWNERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO REACT TO THAT.
OH, THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD IS THAT WE DID HAVE A LISTENING SESSION AND WE WAS OPEN TO EVERYONE.
WE TRIED OUR BEST TO COMMUNICATE WITH FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LETTING THEM KNOW, UM, THAT THEY, THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE INPUT AND FEEDBACK, BUT WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY REACH OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON, ON 12TH STREET SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS NOW.
HOW DO Y'ALL KNOW HOW THIS WAS? AND I KNOW THE WORKING GROUPS NOT REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS, BUT DINA, HOW THIS WHOLE PROCESS WAS NOTIFIED.
WASN'T NOTIFIED LIKE A ZONING CHANGE TYPICALLY IS ALL THESE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE, ARE WITHIN THIS DISTRICT SINCE WE'RE STILL IN A Q AND A, I WILL DEFER TO STAFF ON THAT ONE.
STEPH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT FOR US AS FAR AS HOW NOTIFICATIONS WERE DONE AND PROCESS SURE, SURE.
THIS IS MARK WALTERS, HOUSING AND PLANNING.
UH, PRIOR TO, UH, APRIL 20TH OF THIS YEAR, WE NOTIFIED ALL PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, BUSINESSES, EVEN AS AN ACCOUNT OR ANYONE WHO OWN PROPERTY WITHIN THE TWO NCC NCDS AND WITHIN 500 FEET OF GAIN, CCV INVITED THEM TO THAT INFORMATIONAL MEETING HELD ON APRIL 20TH.
AND I DON'T RECALL THE ATTENDANCE NUMBER.
LAURA CAN REMIND ME, BUT WE DID REACH OUT TO LIKE YOU WOULD IN A NORMAL ZONING CASE.
SO IT WAS THE NORMAL, AND I THINK THERE WAS 2300 LETTERS INVITATION SENT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, FOR THAT.
DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT LAUREN? AND IF, IF, UH, IF THIS WAS NOTIFIED SIMILAR TO A ZONING CASE, DOES THAT MEAN THAT VALID PETITION APPLIES? AND IF SO, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY SIGNATURES FOR VALID PETITION? UH, NO.
IT WAS, UH, I THINK THE INVITATION YOU'RE IN WAR, IF YOU CAN RUN ME, THE LIMITATION WAS JUST TO THAT INFORMATIONAL MEETING.
SO THERE WAS THE MEETING AND IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING OR ANYTHING, SO THERE'S NO PETITION RIGHTS, BUT WE WERE PRESENTING THE FINDINGS OR THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT MEETING WAS.
I THINK WE HAD EITHER 20 OR 40 PEOPLE.
I CAN'T, I JUST, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY THE NUMBER.
SO WE'RE REDUCING ENTITLEMENTS AND THERE'S NO PETITION RIGHTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
THERE WERE NO PETITION RIGHTS AT THE PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE IT WAS JUST AN INFORMATION MEETING, BUT, BUT AS WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE WOULD BE, THERE WOULD BE PETITION RIGHTS.
SO, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, AND THEN, AND THEN I'LL OPEN IT, UH, IF, IF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS SOMEHOW DISCOVER FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ARE CHANGING THEIR ENTITLEMENT, THEY COULD FILE A VALID PETITION BEFORE THIS GOES TO FINAL READING AND COUNCIL AND REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE.
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YES.THEY COULD FILE, UH, ABOUT THE PETITION.
IF THEY UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, COMMISSIONER COX'S QUESTIONS KIND OF SPURRED ME ON, ON THIS.
UM, SO, SO THE PEOPLE WERE NOTIFIED FOR THE APRIL AND THEN SOMEWHERE IN THERE WE POSTPONED BECAUSE WE NEEDED MORE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THINGS AND CREATE OUR WORKING GROUP.
WAS THERE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AT WORK WHERE PEOPLE NOTIFIED AGAIN, MR. PROPER NOTIFICATION, BECAUSE NOW OUR WORKING GROUP HAS COME IN WITH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE STAFF WAS PRESENTING IN APRIL.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
I'M SURE IF I'M MAKING SENSE, BUT WE'RE CHANGING THINGS.
AND HAVE WE PROVIDED PROPER NOTICE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE CHANGING? CAUSE THAT'S CHANGED FROM HOW THE MEETINGS IN APRIL THAT NOTICE WOULD ACTUALLY OCCUR AT THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE WE'D NOTIFIED FOR THE ORIGINAL, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING.
SO ANY CHANGES MADE BY THIS BODY TONIGHT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN ANY STAFF BACK UP TO CITY COUNCIL? UH, SOMETIME, PROBABLY HOPEFULLY SOON, BUT THEY WOULD RECEIVE NOTICE JUST LIKE THEY DID FOR THIS ORIGINAL MEETING.
COMMISSIONERS ARE, I DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION IF I CAN JUST USE THE SLOT TO SAY ONE QUICK THING.
I THINK I'M REALIZING NOW THAT WE MADE A SLIGHT ERROR IN THE WORDING OF THIS AMENDMENT.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THE TWO BOOKS.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUBDISTRICT DO GOING DOWN 25 FEET, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DO AND DO IT CORRECTLY.
DO HE IS ALREADY PROPOSED AT 35 FEET AND WE'RE SAYING FOR SUBDISTRICT DO DO EIGHT.
WE'LL ALL GO DOWN FOR THAT 35 FEET.
SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IN MY MOTION WILL PROBABLY REFLECT THAT.
AND I'M SORRY, YOU SHOULD SAY THIS IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SELLING G A G FUND.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT TWO SPOTS LEFT? UH, COMMISSIONER YOU BELINDA, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THIS IS IN LINE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER, SORRY, JUST SAID, BUT, UM, JUST A SLIGHT CLARIFICATION I BELIEVE TO A ALREADY HAS 35 FEET.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE INSTANCES WHERE HEIGHT WAS LOWERED PREVIOUSLY.
SO THE CURRENT HEIGHT, UM, THE CURRENT REGULATIONS AND THEN THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD'S PROPOSAL IS THAT OF DISTRICT ONE AND 60 FEET.
SO DISTRICT TWO IS 50 FEET SUB SUB DISTRICT TWO AND THREE ARE BOTH 35 FEET.
MISS GIVING FOR THAT CERTIFICATION IS WE HAVE ONE SPOT FOR THE QUESTIONS, RIGHT? NOT SEEING ANY, UM, YOU GO BACK TO EMOTION, ZERO EMOTION.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION.
MY MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE WORKING GROUPS, UM, AMENDMENTS IN GROUPING TWO THAT HAS AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE AND SIX ON THE 12TH STREET, NCCD, UH, HEIGHT AND THE GROCERY DENSITY FAR WITH A CLARIFICATION THAT, UH, FOR THE HEIGHT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 35 FEET FOR BOTH SUBDISTRICT DO AND TO BE UNLISTED GRADES, A NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE.
SARAH SECOND, YOU MENTIONED AIRBRUSHED DOLLAR SHARES.
ARE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR EMOTION? I'LL KEEP THIS QUICK.
I THINK MY COMMENTS WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT I SAID FOR THE LUNG TREATMENTS AS YOU DO WITH THE CAVEAT THAT I THINK THIS STREET PARTICULARLY REQUIRED A LOT OF ATTENTION AND WE SPENT SOME TIME WHEN THEY JUST KNOWING THAT IT'S GROWING NATURE IS TRULY VERY RESIDENTIAL AND THERE IS ACTUALLY VERY LIMITED EVEN COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE ON HERE AT THIS MOMENT.
UM, EVEN THOUGH THIS DOES NOT TAKE AWAY ASPECT, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GETTING NON-CONFORMING USES FROM WHAT EXISTS TODAY, IT FELT LIKE IT MADE SENSE TO MAKE IT MORE ALIGNED
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WITH WHAT IS ON THE PARCELS AND JOINING THESE EXACT PARCELS.AND I THINK THAT IS WHY I'M PROPOSING THIS WITH THE, UM, DAN UNDERSTANDING AGAIN, THAT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR LEGALITY, THOSE WOULD BE CONSIDERED BY A LAW DEPARTMENT, UM, AS THIS GOES TO COUNCIL AND BY OUR COUNCIL ITSELF.
YOU'RE SPEAKING AGAINST MR. SPEAKING FOR MR. MUSTAFA.
SORRY, WAS THAT ME OR WAS THAT SOMEBODY ELSE? YEAH.
UM, I, I WANT TO ECHO WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID ABOUT THE CHARACTER AND NATURE OF THIS AREA.
UM, CAUSE I KNOW I USED TO GO AROUND THIS AREA A LOT WHEN I WAS IN WAY BACK WHEN IN COLLEGE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I REMEMBER BEING THERE.
UM, AND IN GIVING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, SOME, SOME SAY IN THIS, BUT THE OWNER SIDE ON ANY DEVELOPERS THAT MAY BE IN AND AROUND THIS AREA, I FEEL MORE REASSURED KNOWING THAT THE PROCESS IS GOING TO GO BACK THROUGH COUNCIL AND THERE WILL BE THE PUBLIC NOTICE AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO, UM, DISCUSS, PRESENT AND MAKE THEIR COMMENTS.
SO I'M, I'M SUPPORTING WHAT THE WORKING GROUP HAS DONE HERE.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE THE PROPER TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS THAT WILL OPEN UP FOR FOLKS THAT THAT MAY FEEL THAT THEY WEREN'T QUITE INVOLVED OR DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE INVOLVED IN, IN THE WORKING GROUP SESSIONS THE WAY THEY WANT IT TO MR. SPEAKING, AGAINST OR NEUTRAL, RIGHT.
I THINK HOW MANY SPOTS WE HAVE? IS IT FIVE, SIX? UM, SPEAKING FOR AND AGAINST IT'S A THREE AND THREE.
UM, WE'VE GOT AN ANYONE SPEAKING FOR MR. YANEZ BLINO OH, OKAY.
UH, I'LL JUST, UM, BRIEFLY SAY THAT I, I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND IN FAIRNESS, UH, WE JUST VOTED AT 11 1 1, UM, ON, YOU KNOW, ON A SIMILAR ISSUE IN FOR 11TH STREET.
A LOT OF THESE CONCERNS, UH, THESE WEREN'T RAISED.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO, TO NOTE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TAKEN THESE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AND, AND, UM, PETITION RIGHTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
AND, UM, JUST FOR HISTORICAL CONTEXT, THERE WAS A VALID PETITION AT, YOU KNOW, OVER A DECADE AGO ACTUALLY WERE IN WHICH, UM, SOME OF THE INCREASED HEIGHTS WERE, UH, PROTESTED AND THAT WASN'T HEATED BY COUNCIL.
AND HISTORICALLY OFTEN ISN'T HEATED BY COUNCIL ON THE SIDE OF TOWN.
UM, SO I, I DO FEEL THAT THE WORKING GROUP AGAIN, REACHED THE BEST CONCLUSION WE COULD AND, UM, I'LL BE VOTING IN SUPPORT.
ONE MORE SPOT THINKING, SPEAKING AGAINST OR NEUTRAL.
UM, MOTION, MR. HAZARA, WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING THAT JUST FOR THE RECORD? SURE.
UM, SO MY MOTION IS MOVING AHEAD WITH, UM, THE SECOND GROUPING OF THE WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS, WHICH INCLUDES AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE AND SIX, REFERRING TO THE GROCERIES, NCCD HEIGHT AND SAR, BUT THE CLARIFICATION THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING A 35 FEET HEIGHT LIMIT FOR SUBDISTRICT DO AND DO EIGHT ON THIS WORD GRIOTS NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES.
SO, UM, SO I'M GOING TO REAL QUICKLY SAY THAT, UH, IF WE GET INTO THE, UM, UH, FOR AND AGAINST CENTER EMOTION, IF IT'S, UH, IF WE'RE BEYOND REALLY ADDING ANY EFFORT, JUST MAKING COMMENTARY OR SPEAKING OF NEUTRAL, WE MAY WANT TO JUST CALL THE QUESTION AND MOVE FORWARD.
IF IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF OPPOSITION, JUST TO MAYBE GIVE US A CHANCE AT FINISHING TONIGHT.
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WE DON'T HAVE TO FILL ALL THE SPOTS.YOU KNOW, IF IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE HAD ENOUGH DEBATE.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT GROUPING.
UH, THIS IS GROUP THREE, WHICH IS, UH, UH, MEN WORKING WITH AMENDMENT FOUR AND AMENDMENT SEVEN.
DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE US, UH, SOMEBODY FROM THE WORKING GROUP, GIVE US A, UH, AN OVERVIEW, UH, LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
SO I THINK JUST GOING FROM HERE, I WOULD SAY OUR MOST COMPLEX AMENDMENTS ARE ACTUALLY OVER.
SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE THROUGH THIS AND FINISH THIS TODAY.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT GROUPING NUMBER THREE WITH MEN, MEN, MEN, NUMBER FOUR IN SEVEN AND EIGHT, AND ESSENTIALLY RELATED TO THE USE STANDARDS FOR BOTH 11TH AND 12TH STREET.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT BOTH OF THEM.
AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IN BOTH OF THOSE DISTRICTS, THAT LARGELY HOTEL MODEL SHOULD EITHER BE A PROHIBITED USE OR IT SHOULD BE, UM, UH, ESSENTIALLY A CONDITIONAL USE.
AND SO FOR 11TH STREET, SPECIFICALLY AS ALREADY SUGGESTED SUBDISTRICT TWO DOES NOT HAVE SUB DISTRICT TWO AND FOUR WOULD NOT HAVE ANY HOTEL OR MOTEL THAN THEM.
SO WE WOULD BE CREATING A CONDITIONED USE FOR HOTEL MOTEL, AND SUB-DISTRICT ONE SAME GOES FOR THE DRILL TREAT NCCD.
THE ROOM WOULD BE, WE WOULD CREATE HOTEL MODEL AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
ARE YOU, OR HAVE YOU COMPLETED, OH, I FORGOT THAT THIS IS NOT EMOTION, SO I CAN ACTUALLY SPEAK TO IT RIGHT NOW.
I'M SORRY FOR THAT FORGETTING.
LET ME JUST SPEAK TO IT QUICKLY.
I THINK THE MAIN ISSUE HERE WAS THAT I THINK THERE WAS A CONCERN AROUND THE LIQUOR USE ASSOCIATED WITH HOTEL MOTEL.
SO I THINK THAT WAS THE FIRST ASPECT OF WHY WE WERE CONSIDERING THIS AND THE CONDITIONAL USE.
SO YOU CAN TRULY GO THROUGH A PROCESS WHEREBY THE COMMUNITY HAS A VOICE IN THE CONVERSATION.
THE OTHER PIECE WAS, I THINK WE HEARD VERY CLEARLY THAT THE HOTEL MODEL DOES NOT NECESSARILY SERVE THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF.
AND SO AGAIN, IT MADE SENSE TO HAVE IT AS A CONDITION USE WHAT THE CAVEAT THAT THIS WOULD CREATE A CONVERSATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FEEDING THAT AS A, UM, CONDITIONAL VIEWS IN BOTH OF THOSE AREAS, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET A NON-CONFORMING USE AGAIN.
SO AS THE HOTEL MOTELS EXISTS CURRENTLY, THEY WOULD REMAIN, IT WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A NON-CONFORMING USE.
SO, UM, WE DON'T, WE HAVE FIVE COMMISSIONERS WITH THREE MINUTES EACH.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE IT ALL, BUT, UH, WHO HAS THE FIRST, FIRST QUESTION REGARDING THIS IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
UH, COMMISSIONER COPPS, SORRY, JARED.
UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE DOES MAKING THE HOTEL MOTEL USE CONDITIONAL, UM, ALSO SOMEHOW RESTRICT LIKE BED AND BREAKFAST TYPE STUFF, OR IS IT JUST STRICTLY WHAT WE CONSIDER HOTEL MOTEL? I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
IS IT, UM, USED, SO IT WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED BY THIS.
OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS.
DO I HAVE A, I HAVE A MOTION, MR. ZAR.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE AHEAD WITH ACCEPTING THE WORKING GROUP, UM, AMENDMENT GROUPING NUMBER THREE, WHICH INCLUDES AMENDMENT NUMBER FOUR AND SEVEN, AS IT RELATE TO USE STANDARDS FOR 11TH AND 12TH FEED NCCD, UH, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UH, WITHIN CLEAR INTENTION TO STAFF THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE HOTEL MODEL IS EITHER IN NOT PERMITTED USE OR AS A CONDITIONAL USE WITHIN BOTH DISTRICTS.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THIS, UM, MOTION COMMISSIONER, CONLEY FINISHER, HIS ARGUMENT, SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION.
I THINK I'VE PRETTY MUCH SPOKEN TO THIS ALREADY.
I THINK ALL THIS TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING A USE COMPLETELY WITHIN THE SUB, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THIS CONDITIONAL USE.
SO IT TRULY COMES BACK AND HAS A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION ASSOCIATED WITH IT BECAUSE WE HEARD CLEARLY FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH HOW THE USE MIGHT SERVE THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORS.
AND ALSO WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT HOTEL WENT OUT CURRENTLY HAS LIQUOR USE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
THAT IS LIMITED IN NATURE, BUT IT'S STILL ASSOCIATED WITH IT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
SO ALLOWING IT AS A CONDITION USE, BUT ALLOW US TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SUCH PROJECTS AS THEY COME FORWARD.
THIS IS MY FOLDER BEFORE I WANTED TO MAKE A POINT OF A PROCEDURAL POINT THAT, UH, WHEN YOU GO TO MAKE YOUR FINAL MOTION,
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WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE MAKING THESE RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDED CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS THAT WILL BE TO THE NCCD AND TO ANY CORRESPONDING SECTIONS OF THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN, BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE IN ALIGNMENT.IF NOT, WE'LL END UP KIND OF BACK WHERE WE STARTED FROM WHEN WE BEGAN THIS PROCESS OF ALIGNING THE MCC DS WITH THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THAT BEFORE YOU GUYS VOTE ON YOUR FINAL VOTE.
SO CAN I CLARIFY MY, OR RESTATE MY MOTION CHAIR? YES.
AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE BODY BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO MY RESTATEMENT IS THAT WE'RE MOVING AHEAD WITH, UH, GROUPING NUMBER THREE OF THE WORKING GROUP AS PROPOSED BY THE WORKING GROUP.
THAT INCLUDES NUMBER FOUR AND NUMBER SEVEN AMENDMENTS, WHICH RELATE TO THE 11TH STREET NCCD DRILL STREET, NCC USE STANDARDS AND THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN OR OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE ADJUSTED TO REFLECT THIS CHANGE WITH THE INTENTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THE HOTEL MODEL IS EITHER IN NOT PERMITTED USE OR IS A CONDITION USED WITHIN BOTH DISTRICTS LIKE COMMISSIONER CONLEY OF, IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF COMMISSIONER TOLEDO? I'M SORRY FOR A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
SO YOU CAN MAKE AN AMENDMENT OR A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
MY AMENDMENT WAS SIMPLY TO ADDICTS THAT'S FOR EXISTING HOTELS.
I BELIEVE WE HAD AT LEAST ONE, MAYBE TWO IN THE AREA CASE THAT NEEDED TO BE STATED.
SO IS THAT ALREADY PART OF IT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT NON, UM, THAT YOU CAN CREATE A NON-CONFORMING USE? YEAH.
SINCE I'M READING FROM MY AMENDMENT SHEET, THAT THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED, BUT THEN THAT, BUT I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION AMENDMENT IN THAT CASE.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA, UH, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK FOR AND AGAINST? OKAY.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS ONE.
UM, THOSE IN FAVOR, LET ME IT DOESN'T FAVOR.
LET ME SEE YOU ONE, TWO, UH, THAT'S UNANIMOUS, UH, MY ACCOUNT, UH, ANY, YEAH, I'VE GOT 13.
SO THAT MEANS WE GOT EVERYBODY VOTING, UH, THAT, THAT, UM, AMENDMENT GROUP OF AMENDMENT PASSES, UM, THAT MOTION PASSES, UH, 13.
THAT WAS WE'RE MOVING ALONG HERE.
NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT GROUPING.
UM, OH ACTUALLY THIS IS, UH, THIS IS AMENDMENT, THE GROUP FOUR, WHICH IS JUST ONE WORKING GROUP AMENDMENT, WHICH IS NUMBER EIGHT.
UH, MR. ZAHRA, DO YOU WANT TO GO AND LEAD US THROUGH THIS? THANK YOU CHAIR.
THIS IS JUST A UNIQUE CAUSE IT'S ON ITS OWN.
WE'RE LOOKING AT GROUPING NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS REALLY AMENDMENT NUMBER EIGHT, THE SERVERS TO THE 12TH STREET, NCCD LIQUOR SAMES.
AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT LIQUOR SALES BE PROHIBITED EXCEPT ON SITES WHERE IT DOES NOT GO TO NON-CONFORMING CUES.
AND WHAT I WOULD SPEAK TO THIS AS, SO CURRENTLY WOULDN'T BE 11TH STREET NCCD AS STAFF HAS PROPOSED.
UM, IT WOULD EITHER NOT ABLE TO BE EITHER PROHIBITED USE OR NOT COMMITTED ABUSE, OR IT WOULD BE A CONDITIONAL USE ON THE CORRIDOR ITSELF.
LOOKING AT THE DRAFT STREET DISTRICT, IT FELT THERE WERE TWO THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AT THE SAME TIME.
I THINK ONE WAS UNDERSTANDING THE CURRENT USES THAT EXIST THERE AND SEEING WHETHER AN EXPANSION OF LIQUOR SALES ON THE SITE MADE SENSE OR NOT.
AND WE FELT THAT WITHIN THE PEARL STREET DISTRICT, THAT WAS NOT A REASONABLE USE OF EXPANSION OF LIQUOR SALES.
THE SECOND PIECE OF IT WAS THE UNDERSTANDING THERE ACTUALLY THERE ARE A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER OF SITES CURRENTLY ON 12TH STREET THAT ALREADY ALLOW LIQUOR SALES.
SO AN EXPANSION OF THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY PROVIDE ANY BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THOSE USERS CURRENTLY EXIST.
SO OUR PROPOSAL WAS PROHIBITING FURTHER LIQUOR SEALS ON THE 12TH STREET NCCD WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULDN'T, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR CREATING ANY NON-CONFORMING USES.
UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON THOMPSON, IS THIS, IS THIS PACKAGED FOR LIQUOR OR DOES THIS INCLUDE COCKTAIL FOR A RESTAURANT? SO, UH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE THAT THIS WOULD BE SORT OF PACKAGED AS LIKE A, AS SEPARATE FROM A COCKTAIL USE.
AND I SHOWED TO RFI THAT THE LOUNGE IS ONLY PERMITTED CURRENTLY ON, UM, MAYBE DO SITES
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WITHIN THE DISTRICT WHERE CURRENTLY QUARTER LOUNGE ALREADY EXISTS.SO I THINK STAFF RECOMMENDATION STAFF CAN SPEAK BETTER TO THAT.
WE'RE NOT LAUNCHING DOCTOR LOUNGE IN THE ENTIRE DISTRICT REGARDLESS, BUT, BUT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COCKTAIL LOUNGE AND THE REST, UM, MEXICAN RESTAURANT THAT SERVES A MARGARITA.
I WILL ASK STAFF TO VERIFY THAT.
IT'S WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE MOTION IS THE MOTION TO, TO BAN MY GRETA'S OR TO BAN BOTTLES OF SPIRITS? I THINK THE INTENTION WAS DEFINITELY MANNING BOTTLE OF SPIRITS.
NOT NECESSARILY MARGHERITAS WITHIN A RESTAURANT, BUT I THINK IT WAS GETTING, YOU ARE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING AS WELL.
YES, I AGREE ON SAY LIQUOR SALES REFERS TO A PACKAGE SALE, A RESTAURANT, UM, WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO SERVE A LIQUOR.
AND THAT IS DEFINITELY THE INTENTION OF THE WORKING GROUP.
I HAD THE SAME, UH, OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER CZAR.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE AHEAD WITH ACCEPTING, UM, THE AMENDMENT GROUPING NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS REALLY AMENDMENT NUMBER EIGHT, TWO RELATED DO DRILLS FEED NCCD LIQUOR SALES, AS IT RELATES TO BOTH AN AMENDMENT TO THE NCCD AND THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN OR OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT MAY LIMIT THIS USE.
UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MS. SHELLER AND TO FEATURE MOTION, PLEASE.
THE FISHERS, ARE YOU SURE I'LL JUST MAKE THIS QUICK.
I THINK AGAIN, THE INTENTION FROM IS THAT CONSIDERING SORT OF THE NATURE OF THE SITE THAT WE, UM, LIMIT, UH, PACKAGE LIQUOR, UM, AND DO NOT EXPAND IT BECAUSE IT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN CERTAIN BASES ON THIS, UH, WITHIN THIS DISTRICT.
SO I THINK OUR IDEA IS, AGAIN, NOT TO CREATE NONCONFORMANCE THEY WILL NOT DEGRADE NON-CONFORMING USES TO ONLY IMPACT, UH, PACKAGED LIQUOR.
SO WE WOULD STILL BE TALKING ABOUT RESTAURANTS, SERVING LIQUOR AS WOULD BE REQUIRED WITH THEIR OWN PERMITS.
UM, AND, UH, AND I THINK WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS ONLY RELATES TO THE 12TH STREET NCCD, BUT ALSO IMPACTS THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN OR OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT THIS MIGHT IMPACT AS, UM, MR. WALTERS HAD CLARIFIED.
UM, SO, UH, ANY COMMISSIONER SPEAKING AGAINST, ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE VOTE.
UH, THAT'S 13 IN FAVOR, SO THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
I CAN FIND MY LIST GOT TOO MUCH PAPERWORK HERE.
WE HAVE, UH, GROUP FIVE, WHICH IS ITEMS, NOT A WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS NINE AND 10.
THAT'S THE LESS PACKAGE RIGHT.
GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO, UH, THAT GROUP I CAN SHARE.
SO I'M LOOKING AT THE GROUP NUMBER FIVE, WHICH INCLUDES AMENDMENT NUMBER NINE.
AND THEN ALSO, AND AGAIN, THESE ARE, I THINK ESSENTIALLY NOT LARGELY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE GROUPED TOGETHER FOR A NUMBER NINE.
IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO AMEND THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN WITH THE LANGUAGE CHANGE THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE CELL.
SO THIS HAS A LANGUAGE CHANGE THAT WE DO VOTING ON DIRECTLY, WHICH WOULD ESSENTIALLY SAY THAT WE CHAMPION COMMUNITY INFORMED SUSTAINABLE REVITALIZATION TO COMPATIBLE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT REFLECTS DIVERSITY, ACHIEVES EQUITY AND PRESERVES EAST AUSTIN'S CULTURAL HISTORY.
I THINK WE'RE LARGELY KEEPING IT AS IS IN THIS CASE AS HAD BEEN BROUGHT FORTH TO US FROM THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD OR ADDING TWO PIECES TO IT THAT WERE SPECIFIC REQUESTS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THEY'RE JOINING NEIGHBORHOODS WANT TO HAVE A COMMUNITY INFORMED AND THERE'S AN UNDERLYING SORT OF TEXT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT AND THROUGH COMPATIBLE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN SEE AS UNDERLINED.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING THIS TEXT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE URBAN NEW BOARD HAD PUT FORWARD.
AND I THINK WE WERE HEARING, UM, A FEW ADDITIONS TO THAT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO RESPECTING THAT AND PUTTING THAT IN HERE, AMENDMENT NUMBER 10, AND I'LL HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS FROM STAFF IN A SECOND.
UM, IF I GET THE OPPORTUNITY, BUT REALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A SLACK IS A CLARIFICATION AND AN INSURER AND ENSURING THAT INDEED WORK CURRENTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES EXIST, THAT THEY CONTINUE TO EXIST AS AN ALLOWED USE.
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AND ALSO THAT IF THEY'RE DAMAGED OR DISTORTED IN ANY WAY, THE PROPERTY OWNER CAN REBUILD IT AS SINGLE FAMILY AND ENSURING THAT THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT IN PERPETUITY TO USE AND IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTIES WITH NO LIMITS ON VALUE OF IMPROVEMENT, REPAIR, REBUILD, OR SALE.UM, AND THE IDEA REALLY WAS I THINK WE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERN FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WOULD THE SAVE AND ACCEPT PART ACTUALLY ALLOWED THEM TO KEEP THEIR HOMES AS IS.
AND I THINK WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THAT WAS INDEED THE INTENTION OF STAFF AS WE UNDERSTOOD.
AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS INDEED CLARIFIED AND WE REALLY INSURED WITHIN OUR DOCUMENTS.
UH, QUESTIONS, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THOMPSON.
DOES IT ALLOW, UM, SOMEONE TO BULLDOZE A HOUSE AND REBUILD AND HOW DO YOU DEFINE THAT SECRETARY THOMPSON? I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM STAFF ON THIS, UM, CONSIDERING THAT I THINK THAT WAS THEIR INTENTION AS WELL, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM MS. SKIDDING AND THEN I CAN RESPOND TO WHAT OUR INTENTION.
UH, THE SAVING EXCEPT PROVISION ALLOWS PERMITS THAT USE AT THE ADDRESS THAT IT CALLS OUT, UM, AND PERPETUITY.
SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO REBUILD AND WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY OF THE NON-CONFORMING REGULATIONS, BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN BULLDOZE AN EXISTING HOUSE, HABITABLE HOUSE AND REBUILD.
I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
THEY USE IT JUST PERMITTED ON THE SITE.
UM, I'M GOING TO GO TO COMMISSIONER SNYDER FIRST.
I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THAT LANGUAGE, UH, OR AT LEAST THE DESCRIPTION AND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT FOR, UH, AMENDMENT NUMBER 10.
UH, THE, THE LAST LINE ENSURE THAT HOMEOWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT IN PERPETUITY TO USE AND IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTIES WITH NO LIMITS ON VALUE OF IMPROVEMENT, REPAIR, REBUILD, OR SALE.
THAT SEEMS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT, UH, STEPH JUST DESCRIBED, UH, IS THE IDEA THAT IT CONTINUES TO BE LIMITED WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE OR BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE IS THAT THERE'S NO LIMITS ON THE VALUE OF IMPROVEMENT, REPAIR OR SALE.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT A BIT MORE NOW, TRY MY BEST TO DO THIS.
AND I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER DEMONSTRATES WHO HAD WORKED ON THIS, MAYBE THEY CAN CHIP IN AS WELL.
UM, CURRENTLY WE'RE ELIMINATING A SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL AS AN ALLOWED USE IN 11TH OR 12TH STREET DISTRICT.
SO IT WOULD COMPLETELY BECOME, UM, NOT ALLOWED IT'S A NOT PERMITTED USE OR PROHIBITED USE.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS THERE'S A SAVE AND ACCEPT SECTION THAT STAFF HAS PROPOSED THAT ESSENTIALLY SAYS WHERE THERE'S AN EXISTING STRUCTURE TODAY.
THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY CAN CONTINUE TO ENJOY THAT USE AND ANY NEW.
AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS ANY NEW OWNERS SHOULD BE CONTINUED TO ENJOY THAT USERS, SINGLE FAMILY, IF THERE IS A NEED TO REPAIR, UH, THAT SHOULD BE ABOUT IF THERE'S A NEED TO COMPLETELY TEAR DOWN THE STRUCTURE AND REBUILD IT NEW AS SINGLE FAMILY HOME, THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE SINGLE FAMILY USE IN PERPETUITY FOR TRACKS, WHERE IT CURRENTLY EXISTS TODAY, SO THAT NOT ONLY DO THEY NOT BECOME NON-CONFORMING USES AT THIS TIME, THEY NEVER BECOME NON-CONFORMING USES, UM, UNLESS THERE'S ACTION TAKEN IN THE FUTURE.
AND I WONDER IF OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO ADD TO THAT, LET ME JUST ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION FOR OTHERS AS WELL.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS FOR ANY PROPERTY OWNER THAT WANTS TO MAINTAIN IT AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT CAN REPAIR THAT CAN REBUILD AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, BUT THEY WOULD ALSO BE PERMITTED TO SELL IT OR DEVELOP THEMSELVES TO WHATEVER THE, UM, THE NEW DESIGNATION IS UNDER THE, UNDER THE PLAN, WHY THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN IT AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THEY CAN ALSO DEVELOP IT.
AND SO I THINK NOT UNDERSTANDING SORT OF THE TECHNICALITY OF THE SEVEN, EXCEPT I WONDER IF MS. KEATING, YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GIVE IT AS A SINGLE FAMILY USE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE WHAT THEIR LOT ALLOWS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE SCHEME.
SO IS THE QUESTION WHETHER THEY CAN DO IT HAVE ANOTHER YOUTH OTHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY
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ON THE PROPERTY.I THINK THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE QUESTION.
THAT'S MORE OR LESS THE QUESTION, WHETHER THIS PERMITS THEM TO MAINTAIN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, BUT ALSO ALLOWS THEM TO REDEVELOP TO THE EXTENT ALLOWED, UM, UNDER THE NEW THEY WOULD BE, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED, UM, TO HAVE THE PROPERTY UNDER WHATEVER USE IS ALLOWED THROUGH THE ZONING.
UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY IS WHICH ISN'T ALLOWED AND THE G AND THE ZONING IS AN ADDITIONAL YOUTH THAT'S ALLOWED ON THAT PROPERTY.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE AT A TIME, UH, FOR THAT QUESTION.
UH, JUST SO QUESTIONS IN CONDITIONERS.
WELL, I WOULD, UH, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS TOO.
DO WE NEED TO ADD, UH, THE COMMISSIONER SAKE? WE NEED TO ADD ANY CLARIFYING STATEMENTS TO THAT LAST SENTENCE WHERE IT SAYS WITH NO LIMITS, UM, TO FRAME IT AS, YOU KNOW, UNDER A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, OR JUST SO IT'S CLEAR IS, WAS THAT THE ATTENTION COMMISSIONERS ARE, THAT WAS CERTAINLY THE INTENT, BUT I GUESS ALSO TO VERIFY THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT OTHER USES THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER THE SUB-DISTRICTS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO THE FOLKS HERE SO THEY COULD CHANGE IT, BUT IF THEY WANTED TO KEEP IT AS A SINGLE FAMILY, IT SHOULD NEVER BECOME A NON-CONFORMING USE.
I DON'T KNOW IF I FULLY CLEARLY ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, BUT ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO SAY, I GUESS THE IDEA HERE IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IN THE SAVING EXCEPT WOULD BE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH IS, UH, WITH NO LIMITS ON A VALLEY OF IMPROVEMENT, REPAIR, REBUILD, RCO AS GRANTEE ASSOCIATED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY USE.
I WOULD JUST OFFER AN AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE, UM, UM, INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE, UH, AT THE END.
UM, SO WE'D READ AND SHARE THAT ENSURE THAT HOMEOWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT IN PERPETUITY TO USE AND IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTIES, BUT TO NO LIMITS ON VALUE OF IMPROVEMENT, REPAIR, REBUILD, OR SALE AS ASSOCIATED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY USE.
SO, UM, DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT? CLARIFYING YOU HONEST PLAY-DOH OKAY.
DID WE MAKE A MOTION YET? I MIGHT BE DIFFUSED.
OH, DID WE MAKE A MOTION? I THOUGHT WE KNOW WE'RE IN QUESTIONS.
SO WE ARE FREE AND CLEAR TO MAKE, BRING THAT FORWARD AT THE RIGHT TIME.
SO VERIFY THAT ANYONE WHO MAKES A MOTION INCLUDING ME WILL ENSURE THAT YES, THANK YOU.
I FINISHED YOUR THOUGHTS QUESTION FOR STAFF.
IS THERE STAFF COMING ON THIS WITH THAT? THEY BELIEVE THIS WAS REDUNDANT TO THE SAVE AND ACCEPT PROVISIONS.
UM, AND I ACTUALLY REALLY APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION THAT THIS AMENDMENT IS TRYING TO PROVIDE BECAUSE THEY'VE AND ACCEPT DOESN'T REALLY MEAN ANYTHING TO ME.
SO IF, IF STAFF COULD PROVIDE SOME EXPLANATION, MAYBE THE LEGAL DEFINITION OR WHATEVER OF WHAT SAVE AND ACCEPT MEAN IN THE PROVISIONS IN THE URP AND NCCD SAVE HIM EXCEPT, UM, DESIGNATE A PERMIT TO USE AT CERTAIN ADDRESSES.
UM, AND IT BECOMES BEFORE THE LAND USE TABLES AS A LAND USE TABLE APPLIES GENERALLY AND SAVING, EXCEPT AS THESE SPECIFIC ADDRESSES ALSO ARE PERMITTING, THESE USES.
SO, UM, STAFF LOOKED AT EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THEIR CAR, AND THEY CALLED THEM OUT BY ADDRESS, UM, TO ALLOW THEM TO BE PERMITTED AT THAT SITE.
AND PERPETUITY, DOES THAT, DOES THAT EVEN ACCEPT FLAWS ALSO MEAN THAT THEY CAN REBUILD, UH, THEIR, THEIR HOUSE UNDER THE, WHATEVER THE LIMITS ARE OF THAT, OF THAT PARTICULAR ZONING CATEGORY? YES.
IT'S, IT'S A WAY TO RECOGNIZE EXISTING USES AND THEN, UH, AND NOT MAKE THEM NON-CONFORMING, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT BE PROHIBITED ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CORRIDORS.
UM, I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE HAD THIS SAME KIND OF CONVERSATION, UM, WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS PRESENT AND AT THE
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END OF THE MEETING, THEY STILL DIDN'T REALLY FEEL SATISFIED THAT THEIR CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED.AND ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT IS THAT, UM, THE LIST OF ADDRESSES IN THE SAVE AND ACCEPT SECTION, THEY FELT THAT THAT MIGHT NOT BE INCLUSIVE OF ALL OF THE CURRENTLY EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UM, AND THAT WAS BROUGHT UP A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES.
SO I THINK OUR INTENTION IN LAYING THIS OUT IS, UM, TO ENSURE THAT ANY ADDRESSES THAT MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN INCLUDED, UM, ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, IN ANY KIND OF RISK OF LOSING THAT.
ANY OTHER CONDITIONERS WITH QUESTIONS HAVE SHUTTERS ARE FAIR.
I DON'T SEE ANY, IF YOU WANT TO GO AND TAKE THE LAST SPOT.
THANK YOU, CHAIR AND MISGUIDING.
I JUST WANT TO VERIFY, UM, JUST TO HEAR FROM YOU SORT OF CLEARLY, I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WHATEVER OUR LANGUAGE IS WITHIN THIS AMENDMENT IS ALREADY COVERED WITHIN THE SAVING EXCEPT PROVISION PROVIDED BY STAFF.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND, UM, STAFF WOULD BE HAPPY BEFORE WE GO TO CITY COUNCIL TO, UH, RE REVIEW THAT LIST OF ADDRESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST BEEN HOME SINCE THEN LEFT OUT.
AND MY, MY FOLLOW-UP TO THAT WOULD BE, WOULD YOU BE, WOULD IT BE OKAY FOR US TO SORT OF GO AHEAD AND MAKE THIS REDUNDANT AMENDMENTS? SO IT WOULD BE REDUNDANT BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE SUBSTANTIVELY IT'S CAPTURED, BUT IT WOULD TRULY, I THINK MAKE OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AND SAFE, UM, WITH THEIR GRANT USE.
WOULD THAT BE OKAY WITH STAFF IF WE WENT AHEAD AND MADE IT REGARDLESS, UM, IS THE AMENDMENT TO ADD, UM, ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE OUTSIDE OF THE STATE EXCEPT PROVISION? NO.
SO THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY LANGUAGE PER SE.
SO IF YOU SEE THEM SORT OF COLUMNS ON LANGUAGE, THERE'S NO SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, BUT RATHER I THINK WE'RE SORT OF, UM, OUR PROPOSED AMENDMENT LANGUAGE REALLY REFLECTS THE INTENT OF THE WORKING GROUP.
NOW WE'RE, UH, WE ARE DONE WITH THE QUESTIONS TRYING TO KEEP THIS ALL STRAIGHT.
SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, COMMISSIONER AZHAR AND FUTURE? UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO AHEAD AND ACCEPT.
UM, THE WORKING GROUP AMENDMENTS FROM GROUP AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE, WHICH INCLUDES AMENDMENT NUMBER NINE AND 10, NINE ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, A CHANGE, UH, IN THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN VISION WITH THE PROPOSED TEXT AS IS WITHIN THE AMENDMENT.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD INCLUDE NUMBER OF DEN AS AN INTENTION FOR STAFF TO CONSIDER AS THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ADDITION.
AND THE END OF SAYING IN THAT LAST SENTENCE, ENSURE THAT HOMEOWNERS HAVE THE RIGHT IN PERPETUITY USE AND IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTIES WITH NO LIMITS ON VALUE OF IMPROVEMENT, REPAIR, REBUILD OUR SALE AS ASSOCIATED WITH A SINGLE FAMILY USE CURRENTLY.
UH, COMMISSIONER COX, SECOND ITEM.
UM, DO WE NEED, DO YOU NEED TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONERS ARE I'LL JUST MAKE A QUICK, UH, THING TO THIS.
I THINK THE FIRST ONE, UM, I THINK WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT, THERE'VE BEEN IN YOUR BOARDS, UM, SORT OF RECOMMENDATION.
WE'RE JUST ADDING TO IT BASED ON SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD HEARD AND OUR NUMBER DEN AGAIN, I THINK REALLY JUST, UM, CLARIFYING AN INTENTION THAT STAFF ALREADY HAD.
AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE STAFF HAS ALREADY COVERED THIS AND I APPRECIATE THEIR WORK ON THIS.
AND IT DOES, I'M GONNA PUSH THIS SERENITY, BUT DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST? ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AND TAKE A VOTE.
THOSE IN FAVOR COMMISSIONER, MOST DOLLAR HAD TO LOG OFF.
SHE HAD TO ATTEND TO AN EMERGENCY.
SO, UH, WE NEED TO DO A FINAL WRAP UP HERE AND JUST BEAR WITH ME AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS.
SO TO KIND OF, UM, FORMALIZE WHAT WE'VE JUST DONE.
UH, AND I REMEMBER DOING THIS FOR THE LAND COMMISSION.
WE MOVED THROUGH ALL THE AMENDMENTS.
WE HAVE TO DO A FINAL KIND OF WRAP UP, UH, VOTE.
SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, UH, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FINAL, UH, MOTION AND VOTE.
WHERE ARE WE? THE BASE MOTION WAS THE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON ITEMS, GET THIS STRAIGHT HERE, ITEM
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SPEED, 12, 13, AND 14 WITH THE AMENDMENT AS VOTED AND APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION.AND SO, UM, IF I CAN GET A MOTION ON THE BASE MOTION AND THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE HAVE HAS THIS MAKING SENSE, WELL, I ALREADY HAD THE BEAST MOTION OPEN, OR AM I WRONG? CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDOVER.
SO IF WE CAN REMEMBER WHO ARE THE, UH, FIRST, UM, PERSONS, UH, WHO MADE THE BASE MOTION AND THEN JUST MOVE TO A VOTE.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS JERRY SHAW, YOU WERE THE BASS MOTION MAKER.
AND I WAS THE SECOND ON THAT IF I REMEMBER, RIGHT.
SO, UH, BASE MOTION, BUT SHARE SHAW SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CZAR.
AND THEN, UM, SO IT'S A BASE MOTION WITH THE AMENDMENTS AS, UH, APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION.
AND THEN, UH, SO GO AHEAD AND GET A, UM, I'M REALLY CONFUSING MYSELF HERE.
SO WE NEED A MOTION AND THEN A SECOND IS JUST FOR YOU TO HAVE A, OKAY.
SO THIS IS A, IF WE CAN GO GET, UH, GO AHEAD AND SEE THOSE VOTING IN FAVOR, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A QUICK, I'M SORRY, COMMENT.
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT I THINK SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENTS THAT CAME FORWARD, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, STAFF POLITICALLY MISGUIDING, MR. WALTERS, MR. WARE FOR HELPING US GET THROUGH THIS.
I WANT TO THANK THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, WHICH ARE GONE LEEK, MR. PRAXIS, COMMISSIONER YANNIS, MINIVAN, ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU, UH, CHAIR SHAW FOR REALLY SETTING OUT A PROCESS FOR THIS THAT HELPED US GET TO THEM.
AND I'LL SAY A FEW REMARKS AFTER WE GET THROUGH THE VOTE TO JUST, UM, UH, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, SEE THOSE IN FAVOR.
THE WORKING GROUP, TREMENDOUS JOB.
UH, AND I LIKED THE WAY WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THIS VERY KIND OF FIRST TIME, UH, KIND OF REVISION TO OUR PROCEDURES.
UH, AND WHEN WE GET, I THINK THE NEXT ONE WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS IS THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL.
UM, SO, UH, WE'LL TRY TO INTRODUCE A SIMILAR TYPE RULES.
SO BE THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO IT BETTER NEXT TIME.
IF WE ARE RUNNING SHORT OF TIME, IF WE ARE JUST RUSHING, THINGS NEED TO TAKE MORE, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, NOT THINGS OUT I'M TRULY IMPRESSED THAT WE GOT DONE WITH THIS THIS EVENING BEFORE 10.
I AM ACTUALLY WHEN ANDREW AND I WERE ADDING UP THE TIME, IT WAS LIKE NO WAY.
WELL, IN VICE-CHAIR WE WERE LIKE, THIS IS GOING TO TAKE TWO MEETINGS.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU ACCOMMODATING THIS VERY, UM, KIND OF ABBREVIATED FORMAT, BUT WE DID GET THROUGH IT.
AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THE REST OF THE AGENDA.
UM, LET ME GET REORIENTED HERE.
I'VE GOT PAPERWORK EVERYWHERE.
SO LET'S, UH, WE'VE GOT, UM, C1 AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO WE NEED TO EXTEND JUST FOR A SHORT TIME? I THINK WE'RE GOING TO LOOKING AT THIS SIDE AND WE MAY NEED JUST A FEW MORE MINUTES.
COMMISSIONER COX, WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING? UH, THEN THE 10 20, YOU HAVE A 10 20.
DO I HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER CZAR? OKAY.
I THINK I'M SEEING 12 AND OKAY.
UH, NANA, THIS LOOKS ALL GREEN.
[C1. Discussion and possible action to appoint members to the working group tasked to review and propose recommendations for Commission consideration regarding the update to the Urban Design Guidelines (Co-Sponsors: Chair Shaw and Vice-Chair Hempel)]
SO UNDER ITEM C, I'M GONNA READ THIS, UH, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPOINT MEMBERS, TO THE WORKING GROUP TASK, TO REVIEW AND PROPOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COMMISSION CONSIDERATION, UH, REGARDING THE UPDATE TO THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.IF YOU RECALL, LAST TIME WE, UH, REMIND ME AGAIN, WHO IS ON THAT WORKING GROUP, UH, WHO VOLUNTEERED FOR THAT LAST TIME? IT WAS COMMISSIONER HEMPEL, UH, WHO ELSE? HOWARD MUSH.
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OKAY.AND SO THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF ANY OTHERS WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN NETWORKING GROUP.
THAT'S WHY WE LEFT IT ON HERE.
WE HAVE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UH, THAT ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING, UH, THESE COMMISSIONERS.
I THINK THEN, UH, THAT'S IT, THEN YOU GUYS WILL BE, UM, BRINGING SIMILAR AMENDMENTS TO THE PC.
LIKE WE'VE JUST DONE ON THIS ITEM, UH, FOR OUR CONSIDERATION, UM, ANY MORE ON THAT ITEM.
[D. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, THE MISSIONARY COPS, THIS IS, UH, ACTUALLY A QUESTION.AND HOPEFULLY SOMEONE CAN ANSWER THAT MAY LEAD TO ADJUSTMENT FEATURES OR NOT, BUT I FEEL THAT NAP FOR THE FIRST TIME ABOUT THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND HOW LIKE THAT YOU'D WALKED OF DOWNTOWN.
IT'S JUST FOR SOME STRANGE REASON EXCLUDED FROM THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN INITIATE AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO, TO CHANGE THAT, OR, OR HOWEVER THAT PROMPT US WOULD HAPPEN, BUT AT LEAST GET THAT INITIATED SOMEHOW.
SO I'M TRYING TO RECALL, UM, MR. RIVERA, DID WE HAVE A, A WORKING GROUP FOR ONE OF THE CONDITIONS? WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT COUNCIL IS REVIEWING THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM CURRENTLY, AND I WOULD JUST DEFER AND LET THEM REVIEW WHAT THE DENSITY PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN IF WE THINK THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONS, UH, MR. RIVERA, ARE YOU, IS THAT, DO YOU KNOW IF THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING LOOKED AT BY COUNCIL? I KNOW I HEARD OF THEY'RE LOOKING AT SOME TOD CHANGES AS WELL.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, AND I THINK THE LAST COUPLE OF RAINY, UM, SITES THAT WE SAW THAT HAD SOME DENSITY BONUS, I THINK WHEN THEY WENT TO COUNCIL COUNCIL OR THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THE WHOLE BONUS STRUCTURE NEEDED TO BE REVIEWED COMMISSIONERS ARE THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.
IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THERE'S THREE THINGS THAT ARE MOVING SIDE-BY-SIDE.
I THINK ONE IS THE ITEM THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, BUT THAT DOES NOT REFER TO EXPANDING THE GEOGRAPHY OF THE DENSITY BONUS.
IT REALLY LOOKS AT SORT OF THE DEER DO DENSITY BONUS FOR THEM DOWNTOWN.
I'M NOT SURE, AND THAT'S, UH, THE AMENDMENT THAT SHOULD BE COMING FORTH TO US BECAUSE THAT WILL BE IT'S A GOOD INVESTIGATION.
UM, AND SO THAT SHOULD COME FORWARD TO US AND WE CAN CONSIDER DIFFERENT THINGS AT THAT TIME.
THERE'S ALSO A ONGOING CONVERSATION AMONG COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ACTUALLY TALK MORE HOLISTICALLY ABOUT OUR DENSITY WANTS PROGRAMS, AND THAT RESOLUTION HAS NOT BEEN PROPOSED OR PASSED YET, BUT IS LIKELY DO, UH, GOVERNMENT WHAT EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HERE.
AND THEN THE DUTY RESOLUTION PASS, WHICH DEPENDING ON GEOGRAPHY, YOU NEED TO DO STATIONS.
THIS WOULD LIKELY GO WITH THAT AS WELL.
SO, SO WOULD IT BE WORTHWHILE TO TRY TO ADD SOME FUEL TO THAT FIRE BY PUSHING SOME THINGS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION SIDE? UM, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT THE FEELING IS WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, SINCE I WAS DOCKED TO SEE THAT, THAT MAP IN THE BACKUP.
UH, WELL, I'M TRYING TO TAKE HIM FOR AN, UH, UH, WHICH COMMISSION WE ALREADY HAVE THAT MIGHT WANT TO TAKE THIS UP.
UH, WOULD THAT BE CODES AND ORDINANCES OR LIKELY? UM, SO, UM, I THINK, UH, ANDREA, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO THIS, UH, TWO CODES AND ORDINANCES TO, FOR CONSIDERATION SURE.
SO THE COMMISSION WISHES TO INITIATE THAT, UM, IT WOULD TAKE TO TWO CO-SPONSORS, UH, TO PLACE IT ON AN AGENDA.
UM, THAT'S JUST TO INITIATE AND THEN, UM, IT WOULD, UM, PROCEED THROUGH THE CAUSE OF LAWRENCE'S AND THEN, UH, BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION THEN, UH, COUNCIL FOR, UH, ADOPTION.
SO COMMISSIONER COX, YOU WANT TO SEEK SOME SUPPORT ON THAT ITEM? SURE.
I, I, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE
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ABOUT THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM IN TERMS OF HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED AND WHY THERE'S A GAPING HOLE IN OUR DOWNTOWN OR THAT, UM, AND THEN IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO RECOMMEND IMPROVEMENTS IN THE INTERIM, AS ALL OF THESE BIG PICTURE, THINGS ARE CONCEPTUALIZED THROUGH COUNCIL AND, AND WHATEVER THOSE LENGTHY PROCESSES END UP BEING.I I'M HOPING THAT MAYBE WE CAN HELP SHORT CIRCUIT THAT TO AT LEAST AT LEAST GIVE, GIVE US A BIT MORE, UH, GIVE US A FEW MORE TOOLS BY EXTENDING THE DENSITY PROGRAM IN AREAS THAT, THAT IT MAY NOT APPLY OR SUGGEST MINOR IMPROVEMENT AROUND THE EDGES.
UM, ALL, ALL IN AN EFFORT TO ACHIEVE WHAT A LOT OF US, ONE OF THE TEAS, UM, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS TO DO OKAY.
ONE IS, I THINK I HEARD A, UM, A REQUEST TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION OR A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF ON HOW WE GOT WHERE WE ARE, BUT I WAS SPEAKING MORE ABOUT GOING AHEAD AND, UH, GETTING THIS ON THE AGENDA OF THE CODES AND ORDINANCES GROUP.
UH, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT ANDREW IS SAYING.
DO YOU WANT BOTH, OR WOULD YOU LIKE JUST TO HAVE THEM START AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO US LATER? I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE, FOR THE, THE, THE JOINT OR THE SUB COMMITTEE DIVERTERS TO START WITH IT AND THEN, AND THEN SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.
DO WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS THAT WOULD SUPPORT A COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER CONLEY SUPPORTS IT, COMMISSIONER SHEA, COMMISSIONER SNYDER, PLENTY OF VETERANS SUPPORT.
COMMISSION PAYS ON ANDOVER AS A CNO.
JC HAS AN AUTONOMOUS GROUP OF TWO MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE CAN REQUEST IT FROM THEIR LIAISON TO PLACE THAT AS A BRIEF IN EITHER FUTURE MEETING.
SO IT'S, IT'LL BE WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE CODES AND ORDINANCES COMMITTEE.
WELL, I'M WILLING TO SUPPORT THAT.
I THINK, JUST TO SAY THAT, BECAUSE WE CAN NOT DO THAT HERE, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT IN A MEETING OF THE CODES AND ORDINANCES.
WE'RE TAKING THAT IN ADVISEMENT, IN THE FOUR COMMISSIONERS HERE.
WE CAN DEFINITELY INITIATE THAT AS A PRESENTATION AND CONVERSATION ON THAT PROBLEM.
I THINK YOU'VE GOT OUR SUPPORT, SO.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ITEM COMMISSIONER ONE LAST THING, AND THEN I PROMISE I'LL SHUT UP BREATH TONIGHT.
UH, I FEEL REMISS BECAUSE I'M BEING PINGED SO MUCH ABOUT THAT MUCH ABOUT THIS.
UH, JUST CHECKING IN WITH STAFF ON THE REQUEST FROM TWO MEETINGS AGO ABOUT THE AUSTIN ENERGY STEP BACK RULE OF THE MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S STILL ON THE DOCKET TO GET SCHEDULED AT SOME POINT.
THAT IS COMING FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION.
AND COMMISSIONER COX, I'LL JUST ADD QUICKLY, UM, THAT, WHAT, I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD, I THINK THERE WAS SOME SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE THERE WAS NOT A PUBLIC PROCESS RELATED TO THAT, THOSE NEW REQUIREMENTS, BUT, UH, I WAS TOLD THAT THEY DID FOLLOW THE REQUIRED.
UM, IT JUST DIDN'T COME TO US.
IT DIDN'T COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO I THINK SOME OF THOSE, UH, KIND OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES MAYBE WEREN'T REALLY DISCUSSED OR REALIZED UNTIL AFTER IT WAS DONE.
UH, SO THE ELECTRIC UTILITY, UH, COMMISSION TOOK IT UP, BUT I THINK THAT'S, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE ONLY BOARD THAT CONSIDERED IT.
SO, AND IT CERTAINLY IMPACTS THE GOAL THAT WE'VE OUTLINED AND, OR AT LEAST EXPRESS AND THIS COMMISSION.
AND SO I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO AT LEAST BIRTH INTERESTS.
[E. BOARDS, COMMITTEES & WORKING GROUPS UPDATES]
UH, JUST UPDATES.DO YOU HAVE ANY DIFFERENT CODES AND ORDINANCES? I THINK, YEAH.
POTENTIAL OTHER ITEMS. AND IT WAS JUST KIND OF LEAD IN FROM, UM, AN, A CRUSHER COX, YOU KNOW, KIND OF, UM, SUPPORTED THE THING WITH THE AUSTIN ENERGY, BUT, UM, IT IS DEFINITELY A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS. I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS WHO HAVE ISSUES WITH IT, UM, PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING TIED UP BECAUSE OF THIS PEOPLE WHO HAVE DESIGNED, WHO'VE GOT APPROVAL DESIGNED IT, AND NOW THEY SUBMIT AND THERE, I MEAN, VIA PEOPLE WHO WASTED A LOT OF MONEY DESIGNING, THEY CAN'T EVEN GET IT THROUGH, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD VERBAL APPROVAL BEFORE.
BUT, UM, MY QUESTION REALLY IS, SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, RIGHT.
AND, AND TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF LOOK AND EVALUATE THAT, WAS THAT SOMETHING, SORRY, I MISSED THE LAST MEETING.
SO IS THAT SOMETHING BEING RE-EVALUATED NOW OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE DECIDED TO NO, UH, THEY ARE, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF THEIR PROCESS TO UPDATE THE URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.
SO THESE ARE THE CHANGES THEMSELVES.
THIS IS JUST GETTING APPROVAL OF THE PUBLIC PROCESS FOR COMING UP WITH THE CHANGES.
SO WOULD THAT, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, GOING IN LINE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH AUSTIN ENERGY, THE OTHER THING IS EVEN AUSTIN WATERS REQUIRING NOW, LIKE, UH, EVEN A FRONT, UM, I THINK A 15 FOOT SETBACK, UM, OR EASEMENT ACROSS EVERYBODY'S FRONT YARD.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE MOVING ALONG
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THAT IS REALLY HURTING THE DEVELOPMENT OF ANY RESIDENTIAL HOUSING AND WITH THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION GOING UP COST OF MATERIALS, THE UNAFFORDABILITY, IT MAKES ME WONDER, SHOULD WE EVEN LOOK AT THE PROCESS OF HOW RESIDENTIAL DESIGN IS EVALUATED BY THE CITY AND THE CHALLENGES OF, AND THE COSTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COST OF CONCERNS TO FOLLOW THAT.AND EVEN THE PROVENCE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROHIBITION OF BEING ABLE TO CREATE THE TYPE OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING THAT WE WANT.
UM, I MEAN, I'M PERSONALLY, I'M DEALING WITH, WITH, WITH, UM, SEEING PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT CREATING MISSING MIDDLE, JUST BECAUSE IT'S, UH, THE, THE, THE CURRENT DESIGN STANDARDS DON'T ALLOW THAT TO BE MADE PEOPLE JUST GO OUT AND BUILD SOMETHING DIFFERENT RATHER THAN A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY.
BUT, UM, SO I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A PROCESS WE CAN SAVE THAT WE COULD RE EVALUATE THAT RESIDENTIAL DESIGN PROCESS FROM THE CITY AS WELL AS FOR THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND I GUESS IF WE CAN GET A CLEAR ITEM THAT YOU WOULD PROPOSE THAT A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM, WE'RE KIND OF BUILDING OFF INTO PRETTY BROAD TOPICS HERE.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IF YOU RECALL, AND I THINK IT'S STILL ON STAFF'S PLATE, UH, ON THE AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED, IF YOU RECALL, UH, THE MISSING PIECE OF THAT WAS THE, UH, THE KIND OF, UH, IMPROVE HER MANY OR EXCEL, UH, IMPROVED PERMITTING PROCESS.
SO WE'VE KIND OF, I THINK IT'S IN STAFF'S HANDS RIGHT NOW TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING BASED ON WHAT WE, UM, RECOMMENDED IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT GOING, I'LL TOUCH BASE WITH YOU ON THAT.
AND THEN I'LL SEE IF I CAN CRAFT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET TOGETHER, BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY PART OF IT.
ANY OTHERS ON FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY.
UH, LET'S GO AND DO OUR UPDATES CODES AND ORDINANCES JOINT COMMITTEE.
UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE.
I THINK WE HEARD, UH, KIND OF YOUR ITEM TODAY.
ANY OTHER ITEMS YOU WANT TO UPDATE US ON? NOTHING ELSE.
WE GOT OUR MEMO APPROVED BY YOU.
AND, UM, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO START OUR REGULAR CADENCE OF MEETINGS, UM, NEXT MONTH.
AND I THINK I HEARD THAT YOU'RE THE CHAIR NOW.
CONGRATULATIONS TO, TO AIRPORT, UH, ON THAT, UH,
AND SO IT'D BE GREAT IF YOU COULD REACH OUT TO THEM AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO ATTEND, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE HAVE, WE HAVE QUORUM ISSUES, COMMISSIONER, UH, I MEAN, UH, MR. RIVERA, DO YOU WANT, DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE SAF APPOINTEES CHAIR, COMMISSIONER? ALL APPOINTEES HAVE BEEN MADE BOTH ELENA'S COMMISSIONS.
SO I THINK THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH, AND THEY HAD TO MAYBE BRING SOME OTHER DESIGN, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE GOOD AT THIS POINT AND THEY'LL GET SOME PARTICIPATION, UH, JOINS IS DANE ABILITY COMMITTEE, UH, ANY ACTIVITY THERE AT THE MOMENT WE'RE MEETING TOMORROW.
SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE.
UH, WE DID MEET WHERE EVERY OTHER MONTH, SO, UM, WE'RE ON OFF MONTH.
SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, MR. THOMPSON, OUR MEETING WAS CANCELED FOR LACK OF TREND ITEMS. OKAY.
UH, WORKING GROUP UPDATES, MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION WORKING GROUP.
UM, I HAVE GOT, IT SHOULD BE A DOODLE POLL INBOX IF YOU'RE ON THAT TEAM.
AND, UH, I WANTED TO GET, UM, MR. RIVERA, IS THERE ANY, I THINK YOU PROVIDED AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE NEXT VERSION, AS WE KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE.
IT'S STILL UNDER REVIEW INTERNALLY.
SO, UM, HOW I WORK, I BELIEVE, UH, THE LAST I HEARD IT MAY BE MID TO LATE JULY BEFORE IT'S PUBLISHED.
UH, AND WE HAVE OUR NEWLY FORMED WORKING GROUP, URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.
UH, WE'RE HERE, IF, AND I'LL JUST SAY, UH, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SCHEDULE, UM, THE, UH, CHAIR, UH, CAROL, UM, WITH THE, UH, URBAN DESIGN COMMISSION HAS ASKED THAT WE WRAP UP OUR IT'S, YOU KNOW, WRAP UP
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OUR AMENDMENTS BEFORE THE END OF JULY, UH, JUST CAUSE HE WANTED TO GET THIS BEFORE COUNCIL WHEN THEY, BEFORE THEY TAKE UP THE BUDGET.SO, UH, HE WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.
WE'D TAKE UP THESE AMENDMENTS ARE OUR NEXT TWO MEETINGS.
UM, UH, EITHER THE 13TH OR THE 27TH BEFORE COUNCIL MEETS ON THE 29TH.
SO, UH, THIS'LL BE IF A VERY SHORT-LIVED GROUP, UH, IF WE CAN MEET HIS SCHEDULE, UH, THEY WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT OTHERWISE THEY COULD GET THROWN OUT UNTIL THEY GET DONE WITH THE BUDGET AND, UH, THAT DOESN'T HELP HIM VERY MUCH.
SO, UH, IF YOU GUYS CAN PULL TOGETHER A MEETING PRETTY QUICKLY AND GO THROUGH ANY CHANGES YOU WANT TO SEE AND BRING BACK THOSE AMENDMENTS FOR THE 13TH, THAT WOULD REALLY HELP HIM.
ANYTHING FROM THE WORKING GROUP TO ADD.
WELL WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN THIS MEETING, UH, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT 10 10.