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          WE HAVE NINE MEMBERS. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S START THIS AGAIN. 
          WELCOME TO THE 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, UM, FOR NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS AND, UH, ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ON HOLD, LISTENING TO THIS MEETING AND GOING TO SPEAK, UH, TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, WE WILL, UM, WE WILL HAVE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION AND WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION AND THEN GO IN AND THEN GO INTO OUR, UM, OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          NOW I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL. 
          I'M TERRY MYERS. 
          I'M THE CHAIRMAN AND MINDSET. 
          OKAY. 
          PRISON. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, AND USAA, PLEASE. 
          YEAH, PLEASE SAY HERE, PRESENT, BECAUSE IT'S BEING RECORDED AND THEY, UM, WE MIGHT NOT SEE YOU, UH, WITH FEATHERSTONE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          KEVIN COOK FRIED WITH CARLA ROCHE WILL BE JOINING US BY PHONE, I BELIEVE. 
          AND JUST A LITTLE BIT, KELLY, LITTLE I'M HERE. 
           HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          BLAKE TO LET BETH ONS. 
          WELLA CAROLINE RIGHT HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A QUORUM CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. 
          WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE, TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN'S COMMUNICATION, BUT FIRST I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH, UM, THE AGENDA. 
          YEAH. 
          NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA THAT CAN, UH, IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES, WHICH WILL BE OFFERED, WHICH IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. 
          FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE LISTENING ON THE PHONE ITEMS THAT ARE PASSED ON CONSENT ARE APPROVED WITH WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS OR REQUIREMENTS ARE LISTED AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO, UM, STAY ON THE LINE. 
          FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE SPEAKING TO AN ITEM THAT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION, OR YOU PULLED AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION. 
          WE WILL TAKE SPEAKERS IN THE ORDER THAT THEY APPEAR ON, ON THE AGENDA. 
          UM, STAFF, I WENT TO, UM, I NEEDED ADVICE. 
          SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND HAVE A CITIZEN COMMUNICATION BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THE READING OF THE AGENDA? WE HAVEN'T HAD CITIZENS COMMUNICATION A LONG TIME. 
          SO CAN I GET SOME ADVICE FROM STAFF? YES. 
          [Citizen's Communication]
I THINK WE SHOULD GET SEASONED COMMUNICATION FIRST. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY, FINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS ON, UH, CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. 
          DR. 
          MCGEE, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? OKAY. 
          YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. 
          WELL, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS, UH, DR. 
          FRED MCGEE AND, UH, AT THE SUGGESTION OF, UH, COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA, I, UH, SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION AT TONIGHT'S MEETING TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, UH, MY NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION FOR THE MONTOPOLIS NEGRO SCHOOL. 
          NOW, THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE ON THE COMMISSION STARTING IN ABOUT 20 15, 20 16, NO. 
          HOW CONTENTIOUS OF A ZONING CASE THIS WAS, UM, AND TO SEE IT COME BACK AROUND FINALLY IN JUNE OF 2021, I THINK IS A WONDERFUL THING. 
          UM, PERHAPS ALL, WELL, THAT ENDS WELL. 
          UH, I, I JUST WANT TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          I EMAILED IT TO STAFF. 
          I HOPE YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY, UH, ANY COMMENTS, ANYTHING THAT YOU, UH, CORRECTIONS, ET CETERA, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME AT THE INFORMATION LISTED IN THE NOMINATION ITSELF. 
          AND THAT'S MY CONTACT INFORMATION. 
          YOU'LL REACH ME DIRECTLY THERE. 
          AND I HOPE YOU WILL AGREE WITH THE NATIONAL REGISTER CRITERIA THAT HAS BEEN SELECTED, UH, UNDER A, AT THE LOCAL LEVEL OF SIGNIFICANCE. 
          UH, PERHAPS YOU WANT TO GO FURTHER ON, I'M CERTAINLY RECEPTIVE TO THAT, BUT I HOPE YOU WILL SUPPORT THIS, UH, EXPEDITIOUSLY 
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AND THAT THIS PROPERTY WILL BE LISTED. 
          IT'LL BE THE FIRST NATIONAL REGISTER PROPERTY IN . 
          UM, WE DID A HISTORIC MARKER DEDICATION CEREMONY FOR JUNETEENTH JUST, UH, JUST NINE DAYS AGO, 10 DAYS AGO. 
          SO WE'RE RAMPING UP OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION EFFORTS AND I HOPE THIS COMMISSION WILL PLAY A LARGE ROLE IN THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, DR. 
          MCGEE. 
          AND I JUST, UM, I'M GOING TO TAG TEAM ON THAT, UH, TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT, UM, THE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION FOR THE BULLY WELLS HOUSE, UM, THE WILLIE WALL'S HOUSE HAS NOW BEEN LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER, AND THAT'S AN AUSTIN LANDMARK, UM, NOW ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER AND WE'VE ALSO, UM, WRITTEN IN RECORDED TEXAS HISTORIC LANDMARK, UH, APPLICATION FOR IT AS WELL. 
          OUR NEXT SPEAKER ON CITIZENS, I BELIEVE THAT'S PAULA GOD-MAN. 
          ARE YOU THERE? PAULA STAMP IS PAULA ON THE LINE. 
          IF SO, PLEASE UNMUTE HER. 
          IF PAULA IS ON THE LINE, UH, PLEASE MUTE. 
          I'M SORRY, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR PHONE. 
          UM, AS I'M GOING THROUGH THE NUMBERS HERE, I'M NOT SEEING PAULA ON MY LIST, HOWEVER, BUT SHE COULD BE USING A DIFFERENT PHONE. 
          SO IF YOU ARE HERE, PAULA, PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR PHONE. 
          OKAY, WAIT A SECOND. 
          I THINK I JUST GOT PAULA KOFMAN PAULA KAUFMANN. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL LET YOU OUT THREE MINUTES. 
          YES. 
          AND THE REASON I WANTED TO SPEAK TODAY IS WHY DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT PRESERVATION AND AFFORDABILITY? SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR COMMITTEE HAS DONE IS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE OLDER DUPLEXES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WERE RAISED AND REBUILT. 
          AND WE COMPARED THE RENTS THAT WERE COLLECTED WHEN THE PROPERTIES WERE OLDER, VERSUS THE RENT THAT THEY'RE COLLECTING AFTER THEY WERE REBUILT. 
          THOSE RENTS WERE SOMEWHERE AROUND $800 A MONTH AND SEVERAL OF OUR PROPERTIES AND OUR DUPLEXES. 
          AND ONCE THEY WERE REBUILT, THE RENTAL PRICES WERE VASTLY MORE EXPENSIVE, SOMETHING BETWEEN THREE, $4,000 A MONTH, CERTAINLY NOT AFFORDABLE. 
          SO REALLY WANTED THE, THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT SOME WAYS AND TO ADVISE US WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT TRYING TO SECURE SOME OF OUR OLDER, AFFORDABLE CONDOMINIUMS AND DUPLEXES, BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING SO MANY OF HER OR PROPERTIES RAISED NOW THAT WE'RE SPEAR THAT WE'RE GONNA LOSE A LOWER INCOME TENANTS, WHICH GIVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GREATER DIVERSITY. 
          WE'RE ALSO WAITING TO SEE WHEN THE CITY IS GOING TO WILL, UH, ITS PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO CONVERT OUR, OUR GARAGE APARTMENTS AND OUR GARAGES INTO CASITA'S AND, AND TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF UPDATE ON THAT, WE'D APPRECIATE IT. 
          I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS NOW THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ZERO INTEREST LOANS, BUT I'VE NEVER FOUND OUT WHAT THE ACTUAL ACTUAL PROCESS WAS TO APPLY FOR THESE LOANS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, PAULA. 
          DOES ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION OR STAFF HAVE ANYTHING, UM, TO SAY AND ANSWER TO MS. KIRKMAN'S, UM, QUESTION, I THINK SPECIFICALLY ON, UM, 80 YEARS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, LOW INTEREST OR NO INTEREST LOANS, THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WILL, UM, MR. HEIM, SETH COMMISSIONER HEADSETS. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS BEING RAISED. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CAREFUL TO INDICATE THAT OUR ROLE 
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IS TO LOOK AT WAYS TO PRESERVE BOTH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES AND NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY. 
          UM, AND SO I THINK IN THAT CONTEXT, THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE FOR 80 USE OR OTHER TYPES OF MODIFICATIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW, UM, OTHER TYPES OF ECONOMIC INCENTIVES FOR AN OWNER TO KEEP AND RESTORE OR PRESERVE A PROPERTY ARE CERTAINLY WITHIN OUR PURVIEW. 
          UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE SPECIFICS AND THE DETAILS, UM, WE'RE REALLY NOT THE PRIMARY AREA AND THAT'S NOT THE PRIMARY FOCUS CERTAINLY OF THE PRESERVATION MOVEMENT. 
          UH, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT IT IS RELATED AND CERTAINLY WORTHY OF DISCUSSION. 
          AND WHEN WE REVIEW THOSE TYPES OF REQUESTS THAT COME TO US, I THINK, UH, MS. KAUFMAN BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT. 
          WE REALLY SHOULD ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING THAT INTO OUR THOUGHTS. 
          UM, YES, IT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT ALSO IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW AS AFFORDABLE AND IN PROCESS IS BENEFITING, UH, THE PRESERVATION OF THE ENTIRE AREA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I AGREE. 
          AND I THINK PROBABLY MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS AGREE THAT, UM, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, UH, PERHAPS WE CAN HAVE A PRESENTATION OR BRIEFING ON THAT IN THE FEATURE OF THE COMMISSION LEVEL. 
          UM, MOVING ON NOW, UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER REQUEST, UM, SPEAKING, CAN WE SHARE A STEP? I WAS GONNA SAY, YEAH, I'D BE INTERESTED IN, UM, MORE OF THE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE, THE PRESENTATION OF THAT STUDY OF, UM, THE RENT BEFORE AND AFTER. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT GOES FROM A DUPLEX TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IT'S HARD TO JUDGE, UM, WHAT THE COST OF THAT LOFT HOUSING UNIT IS. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST A DOLLAR OF RENT. 
          IT'S, IT'S LITERALLY, IT'S JUST GONE AND THAT'S REALLY HARD TO JUDGE THE PRICE THAT WE PAY A SECURITY FOR THAT. 
          AND SO, YEAH, I'M ALWAYS PRO HOUSING AND AS I THINK PEOPLE, UM, CONTRIBUTE A LOT TO THE COMMUNITY VALUE. 
          SO I ALWAYS TAKE THAT INTO MY CONSIDERATIONS WHEN I MAKE MY VOTES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS TOPIC? I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL INTERESTED IN. 
          I'M NOT PRICING PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          UM, MOVING ON PAST CITIZENS COMMUNICATION, 
          [Consent Agenda: 1A, 2A, A1, B1, B3, B7, B9, B10, C2, C5, C7, C8, D1, D3, D5, D8, F1,]
WE WILL HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES WILL BE A CONSENT ITEM, PRES UH, PRESENTATIONS, DISCUSSIONS, AND POSSIBLE ACTION STAFF WILL UPDATE US ON, UM, WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE STANLEY HOMESTEAD OUTBUILDING THAT WE SAW, UH, IN VIVID DETAIL LAST TIME, UM, SEEMINGLY BEING DEMOLISHED, PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE FIRST ITEM UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS ITEM. 
          A ONE IS A DISCUSSION ITEM. 
          THIS IS THE PROPOSAL IS TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING. 
          THE COMMISSION INITIATED, UM, THE APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED TO DEMOLISH A 1952 HOUSE. 
          WE'LL DISCUSS THIS ITEM UNDER B. 
          YES. 
          UH, THIS IS KELLAN. 
          THE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THAT ONE IS TO, UH, APPROVE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WAS STAFF EARLIER. 
          AND, UH, IT WAS AN UNFAIR DISCUSSION. 
          UM, IS THAT NOT THE CASE? YES, IT SHOULD BE ON FOR DISCUSSION. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I MET. 
          IT WAS ON A DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, UNDER BE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS. 
          AGAIN FOR LISTENERS OUT HERE. 
          IF THIS ITEM PASSES I'M CONSENT, UM, IF YOUR APPLICATION HAS BEEN APPROVED, I WILL READ THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT, BUT THEY'VE BEEN APPROVED AND YOU, AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WAIT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE, UH, AGENDA. 
          FIRST ITEM B 1 15 0 1 NORTHWOOD ROAD IS A CON IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 2 18 0 5 EAST THIRD STREET. 
          THIS IS A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT TO JULY 26TH. 
          ITEM B3 IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. 
          THIS IS 4,006 AND A HALF AVE BEAM ITEMS BEFORE AND B 5, 9 0 7 CONGRESS AVENUE AND 9 0 9. 
          CONGRESS AVENUE ARE LISTED AS DISCUSSION ITEMS, BUT WE ARE THEM FOR CONSENT POSTPONEMENT ITEM B SIX, THAT NUMBER WAS NOT USED B 7 17 18 
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SUMMIT VIEW IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT UPON THE COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE FOR THE GUEST HOUSE, WHICH MAY BE OF INTEREST AS AN EARLY EXAMPLE OF DICK CLARK'S. 
          UH, RESIDENTIAL WORKS IS SOMEONE TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING THERE, IF NOT, PLEASE MUTE YOURSELF. 
          ITEM BA THAT NUMBER WAS NOT USED ITEM BEING 9 24 0 1, GIVEN 70 IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM B 10 IS A CON IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT AS LET'S DO IT AS A DISCUSSION, BUT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THAT IT GO ON THE CONSENT AGENDA UNLESS THE COMMISSIONER PULLS UP GOING ON TO SEE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS AND NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS ITEM 1805 WATERSTON AVENUE WAS OFFERED FOR CONSENT, BUT THAT'S BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM C TWO C UH, 1603 WAS SIXTH STREET WAS A SIGN APPLICATION. 
          IT HAS BEEN ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED ITEMS, C3 AND C4 WERE ALSO SIGNS. 
          THOSE NUMBERS WERE NOT, ARE NOT USED ON THE AGENDA. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CONSIDER THEM ITEM C 5 1 11 CONGRESS AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM C 6, 9 11 CONGRESS AVENUE, LIKE 9 0 7 AND 9 0 9 CONGRESS AVENUE. 
          UH, THIS HAS BEEN PULLED FROM A DISCUSSION. 
          WE OFFER IT FOR CONSENT POSTPONEMENT ITEM C 7 25 18 HARRIS BOULEVARD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT. 
          OKAY. 
          ITEM C 8 15 12 GASTON AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM C 9 4200 LOWOOD ROAD IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM C TEN NINE OH TWO. 
          SPENCE STREET IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM C 11 14 15 WEST 10TH STREET IS A DISCUSSION ITEM GOING ON TO D DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR DEMOLITION OR RELOCATION ITEM D 1 4 0 1 EAST FIFTH STREET IS OFFERED FOR TO APPROVE THE PROJECT AND DELEGATE RESPONSIBILITY TO STAFF, TO REVIEW TECHNICAL DETAILS, INCLUDING MASONRY SPECIFICATIONS AND THE DESIGN OF REPLACEMENT WINDOWS. 
          AS SOME PLANS ARE FURTHER DEVELOPED PRIOR TO THE RELEASE OF THE PERMIT. 
          THIS IS FOR AUSTIN CENTRAL FIRE STATION. 
          NUMBER ONE, ITEM D TWO. 
          I, UH, NEED STAFF, UH, ASSISTANCE. 
          IT WAS ON OUR AGENDA AS A CONSENT ITEM, AND THEN I RECEIVED INFORMATION THAT IT WAS TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. 
          UM, BUT MEN, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, SOMEONE REGISTERED TO SPEAK ON THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ITEM, UH, D 2 23 0 5 RIO GRANDE IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM B3 16, 11 CANTERBURY STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT IT, THEY STRONGLY ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION OR RELOCATION, BUT, UH, RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE ITEM D 4 29 0 3. 
          BREEZE TERRACE IS, IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM D 5 8 11 EAST 16TH STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS PROPOSED, BUT RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT CONSIDER WOOD-FRAME WOOD SASH REPLACEMENT WINDOWS AS A MORE ACCURATE RESTORATION OF THE HOUSE ITEM D SIX, 2007, WILLOW STREET WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM D 7 13 0 8. 
          ALTAVISTA IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM D 8 64 16 NORTH LAMAR BOULEVARD. 
          THE ORIGINAL THREADGILL'S IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT AND THE, THE APPLICATION HAS TO GIVE PRELIMINARY APPROVAL TO THE APPLICANT'S PLAN TO RESTORE 
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THE BUILDING AND DEVELOP THE SITE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, UH, PROPOSED RENDERINGS AND OUR BACKUP, WHICH ACCORDING TO STAFF, UH, DO THE OLD SERVICE STATION JUSTICE AND COMMEMORATES THE RICH HISTORY OF THE SITE AS A MUSIC VENUE. 
          I AM DEAN 9, 9 16 BOLDEN AVENUE IS A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM D 10 3009. 
          BOWMAN AVENUE IS A DISCUSSION ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          MADAM CHAIR, EXCUSE ME, STEVE. 
          SEDOWSKY. 
          WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM THE APPLICANT ON ITEM D 10 30 OR NINE BOWMAN REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JULY. 
          OKAY, THEN, UH, WE WILL, UH, THIS WILL BE A POSTPONEMENT REQUEST, NOT A DISCUSSION ITEM UNTIL JULY 26TH. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          GOING ON TO E DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT CASES, WE HAVE NO CASES, NO ITEMS, F DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE APPLICATE, UH, ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR TAX ABATEMENTS. 
          WE HAVE ONE ITEM, 24 0 1 GIVENS AVENUE AND THE ROGERS WASHINGTON, HOLY CROSS, HISTORIC DISTRICT, AND THAT IS OFFER FOR CONSENT. 
          THEN WE GO ON TO COMMISSION AND STAFF ITEMS WHERE WE WILL GIVE OUR COMMITTEE REPORTS AND, UM, UNDER A AND B IS APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THE PRESERVATION PLAN WORKING GROUP C. 
          UH, WE WILL GET AN UPDATE ON, UM, THE PROCESS FOR DEMOLITION OR RELOCATION OF PROPERTIES ON BY RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AND FINALLY, D ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. SO IF CAN I PLEASE GET A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WHO WAS THAT COMMISSIONER? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER COOK. 
          DO I HEAR A SECOND? WAS THAT COMMISSIONER TELL IT? YES. 
          MA'AM SORRY. 
          YOU'RE NOT ON MY SCREEN. 
          I JUST HEARD THIS DISEMBODIED VOICE. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COMMISSIONER. 
          I'M SETH. 
          YES. 
          REGISTER ME AS ABSTAINING ON ITEM B 10, THE MUSEUM. 
          OKAY. 
          MADAM CHAIR. 
          THIS IS CERCLA LAROCHE. 
          I ALSO NEED TO ABSTAIN ON THAT SAME ITEM. 
          YES. 
          MA'AM RELATED TO ELIZABETH. 
          UH, CURRENTLY ENGAGED ON THE PROJECT. 
          OKAY. 
          STAFF, UM, FOR THE RECORD COMMISSIONER HAIM, SOUTH AND COMMISSIONER LAROCHE ARE ABSTAINING FROM, UM, THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          THE MISSIONARY TILL I WAS CURIOUS WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE ONE THAT WAS CONTINUING. 
          SO YES, IT'S, IT'S BEEN ON OUR AGENDA FOR 14 YEARS. 
          I TOO AM A WONDERING ABOUT THAT HOUSE. 
          HAS IT BEEN RESOLVED? YEAH, IT HAS NOT, BUT, UH, WE'RE JUST HAVING A LOT OF DIFFICULTY, UH, DURING ENFORCEMENT ON THIS. 
          AND I THINK THE PLAN BY STAFF IS TO START INVESTIGATING HOW BETTER TO DO THIS. 
          THE TACK WE'VE BEEN TAKING OBVIOUSLY IS NOT GETTING ANYWHERE. 
          SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO START OVER. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN WITH IT AS WELL, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE NEED IT TO DISAPPEAR FROM OUR AGENDA. 
          UM, BUT PERHAPS WE CAN SPEAK ABOUT THAT LATER. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, HEARING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND ANY OPPOSED IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE ON THE LINE, IF IT JUST PASSED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, TAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS INTO CONSIDERATION, MEET WITH THE STAFF WHEN REQUIRED TO DO SO. 
          AND YOUR ITEMS HAVE BEEN APPROVED, UM, ON THE CONSENT 
          [Postponed Items: B2, B4, B5, C6, D10]
POSTPONEMENTS. 
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DO I HEAR A MOTION? UM, WE HAVE ITEM B TO A POSTPONEMENT TO JULY 26TH. 
          WE HAVE CONSENT OF FROM WHEN ON 9 0 7, 9 0 9 AND NINE 11 CONGRESS. 
          WE HAVE, WHAT ELSE? WE JUST ITEM D 10, 3009 BOWMAN. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'M GETTING THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT WAS THE LAST ONE ITEM D 10, 3000 GLIDING. 
          BOWMAN. 
          DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE POSTPONING COMMISSIONER BALANCE, LAYLA. 
          OKAY. 
          DO I HEAR A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER, HINDSIGHT SECONDS. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND ANY OPPOSED. 
          OKAY. 
          THOSE ITEMS WILL BE, UH, POSTPONED. 
          NOW WE'LL GO ON AND TAKE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE ORDER. 
          THEY APPEAR ON THE AGENDA. 
          SOME ITEMS HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. 
          SO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WAITING TO SPEAK ON THAT, UH, YOUR ITEMS WILL COME UP. 
          THE STAFF WILL MAKE PRESENTATION. 
          YOU WILL BE, UH, YOU WILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON THAT. 
          ONLY HERE AT FIRST. 
          THIS IS OKAY. 
          LET ME BACK UP. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THE SPEAKERS SPEAK IN THE ORDER THAT THEY COME ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY TAKING UP THE ITEMS AT THIS TIME. 
          WE WILL TAKE UP THOSE AFTER WE SHARE ALL THE SPEAKERS. 
          I KNOW THIS KIND OF, UH, JUST ASSOCIATES YOU FROM YOUR CASE, BUT THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO IT, UM, BY THE CITY. 
          SO, YES, AGAIN, I BELIEVE WE ALSO HAVE A DISCUSSION POST. 
          WE HAVE A DISCUSSION DOES UP, UH, YES. 
          A CITIZEN HAS REQUESTED POST COMMENT BY EMAIL FOR 1805 WATERSON AVENUE. 
          WE SHOULD PROBABLY TAKE THAT OUT BEFORE WE GET TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S GOING TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UM, I THOUGHT THAT WAS TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION. 
          THEY W THEY REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT. 
          UM, SO I GUESS WE'RE DISCUSSING THE POSTPONE, BUT WHETHER TO POSTPONE IT OR NOT, BUT THE DISCUSSION WILL BE LIMITED TO WHETHER IT SHOULD BE POSTPONED TONIGHT. 
          THEN WE'LL TAKE IT UP WITH THE OTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL GET TO JULY 26TH. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER HAIM, SETH. 
          I'M NOTING THAT THIS WAS POSTPONED PRIOR. 
          SO, UM, WAS THIS FROM A SIMILAR REQUEST OR WAS THAT, THIS IS WHAT, WHAT HAS HAPPENED ON THIS CASE? THIS IS A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY IN A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. 
          WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO POSTPONE UP TO 180 DAYS ON PROPERTIES IN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS. 
          UH, THE ORIGINAL POSTPONE WAS TO, UH, GET MORE TIME TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANTS. 
          UH, PEOPLE, UM, DID MEET WITH THE APPLICANTS, BUT THE APPLICANTS, UM, HAVEN'T FINISHED THEIR PLANS AND THEY, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED ADDITIONAL TIME TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE PLANS AND MEET AGAIN WITH THE APPLICANTS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT. 
          AND HAVE WE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT, WOULD THEY BE IN AGREEMENT TO THIS? OTHERWISE THE APPLICANT IS NOT REGISTERED TO SPEAK THIS EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          IT IS. 
          YEP. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA. 
          IF THE APPLICANT IS NOT ON THE LINE, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION AND NOT A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT IF APPLICANT IS NOT ABLE TO SPEAK. 
          THEY'VE BEEN HERE. 
          THAT LAST PART. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YEAH, WE DID. 
          WHAT, UM, IS THERE, UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? I HAD HAD IT ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS PERIOD, BUT THE, THE, IN THE DISCUSSION, THE, UM, MARY REED HAS REQUESTED A POST ANOTHER, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO OFFER ON THAT. 
          WELL, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME, IF THE APPLICANT IS NOT THERE TO PROTEST IT AND ARE TO, UH, CONTEST THE POSTPONEMENT THEM, UM, THE MOTION SHOULD BE TO POSTPONE 
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THE CASE. 
          STEVE I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. 
          I'M CONCERNED IF THERE, YOU KNOW, DELAYS JUST FOR DELAY SAKE. 
          I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK IT HAS BEEN, I THINK THIS IS A, I THINK THIS IS A CONSCIENTIOUS REQUEST AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT WAS OPPOSED BY THE APPLICANT, JUST BY THE KIND OF TENOR OF THE REQUEST WHEN IT WAS MADE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PROVIDE DRAWINGS. 
          AND ON TOP OF THAT, THEY'RE NOT HERE, EVEN IF WE DO GO THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION, UM, MAYBE TO MAKE THAT MOTION AND RECOMMEND THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          DO I HEAR A SECOND TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO OUR NEXT, UH, AGENDA SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER, RIGHT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING IT, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. 
          THIS ITEM C1 1805 WATERSTON AVENUE IS POSTPONED TO THE NEXT, UH, MEETING ON JULY 26TH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I HAD JUST KIND OF PUT IT OFF ON AS A DISCUSSION ITEM, BUT, UM, GOING BACK TO THE TWO SPEAKERS, DO WE HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK ON ITEM A 1 27 0 8 SCENIC DRIVE? YES. 
          WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS. 
          THE FIRST SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. 
          THE FIRST SPEAKER WE HAVE, MY NAME IS RICHARD SUTTLE. 
          I'M THE, UH, APPLICANT AND REPRESENTING THE LANDOWNER AS A POINT OF INQUIRY. 
          IS THIS RUN AS A PUBLIC HEARING UNDER 25, 151? OR IS THIS A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING THINGS? NO, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THIS IS, WE ARE TAKING, ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE ORDER THAT WE'RE TAKING THE, UM, THE SPEAKERS? YES. 
          YES. 
          THIS IS WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THE CITY IN THESE VIRTUAL MEETINGS. 
          SO I WILL MAKE THE PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND THEN THE CASE WILL COME UP LATER. 
          YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AND HOW AM I ABLE TO MAKE A REBUTTAL UNDER THE CODE? YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE PEOPLE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION, THEN YOU WILL BE ABLE, THEN THERE WILL BE ONE REBUTTAL FROM THE, FROM THE APPLICANT, FROM YOUR SIDE. 
          AND THEN WE GO ON AND TAKE THE CASES UP. 
          WHEN WE FINISHED LISTENING TO ALL THE SPEAKERS. 
          I KNOW THIS IS A VERY DISCONNECTED WAY TO DO THAT, BUT WE, WE ARE, UH, WE ARE STUCK WITH THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? UM, THREE MINUTES. 
          DO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES? OKAY. 
          I'LL TRY AND GO FAST. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE YOU THE MAIN, OKAY, GO AHEAD, RICHARD. 
          I AM THE MAIN SPEAKER AND I BELIEVE I'LL BE THE ONLY SPEAKER, UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          RICHARD SAYS, I REPRESENT SUZANNE DEAL BOOTH. 
          SHE'S THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THERE ON SCENIC. 
          AND SHE WISHES TO BUILD A NEW HOME. 
          SUZANNE IS A PRESERVATIONIST IN HER OWN, RIGHT. 
          AND IT'S, I KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THE CRITERIA, BUT SUZANNE FOUNDED FRIENDS OF HISTORIC OR, OR FRIENDS OF HERITAGE PRESERVATION AND HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY INVOLVED IN PRESERVATION AND CONSERVATION AND PROJECTS IN OVER 18 COUNTRIES. 
          I TELL YOU, THAT'S NOT, I KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THE CRITERIA, BUT I TELL YOU THIS, BECAUSE IF THIS STRUCTURE WAS A CANDIDATE FOR PRESERVATION, SHE WOULD DO IT. 
          THIS CASE HAS SEVERAL CONSIDERATIONS. 
          FIRST, IT DOES NOT HAVE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR HISTORIC ZONING STAFF RECOMMENDS AGAINST HISTORIC ZONING. 
          IT DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA OF 25 TO 3 52. 
          THIS ASSERTION IS SUPPORTED BY THE LETTERS FROM ST. 
          CLAIR, BLACK, PETER PI, PETER PFEIFFER, JERRY GARCIA, AND DAVID ESCOBIDO ALL IN YOUR PACKET WHILE IT IS OVER 50 YEARS OLD, IT DOES NOT RETAIN A HIGH DEGREE OF INTEGRITY THAT CONVEYS ITS HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE AND IT'S IN BAD SHAPE. 
          AND IT INCLUDES ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS THAT SIGNIFICANTLY COMPROMISE ITS INTEGRITY, THE ROOF, THE WINDOWS, THE SECOND BUILDING, THE WALKWAY, THE BASEMENT, THE STONE VENEER ARE ALL AFTERMARKET ON THIS. 
          UM, ON THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE, IT IS NOT ALREADY LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OR DESIGNATED AS A LANDMARK. 
          AND IT DOES NOT DEMONSTRATE SIGNIFICANCE IN ARCHITECTURE IN THAT IT IS NOT AN OUTSTANDING EXAMPLE OR PARTICULARLY FINE EXAMPLE. 
          THERE ARE MANY THERE'S IN THOSE LETTERS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF EVIDENCE TO THIS, BUT IN FACT, IN 1989 IN A TEXAS ARCHITECTURE ARTICLE WRITTEN ABOUT MR. ROSEN OR THE ARCHITECT, SEVERAL OF HIS PROJECTS WERE LISTED. 
          NEITHER. 
          HE NOR THE AUTHOR MENTIONED, THIS ONE, THIS ONE, UH, IS, IS NOT A PARTICULARLY GOOD. 
          IT'S NOT EVEN PARTICULARLY GOOD. 
          IT'S JUST FLAT, NOT A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE THAT MR. ROSENBERG DESIGNED THE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION WITH THE MCGUINNESS FAMILY 
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WHILE, UM, IT IS THE MCGUINNESS FAMILY, VERY IMPORTANT FAMILY YOU HAVE IN YOUR RECORD, THE MCGUINNESS FAMILY OPPOSES OPPOSITION TO THE HISTORIC ZONING AS WELL. 
          UH, ARCHEOLOGY ARCHAEOLOGIC ARCHEOLOGY IS NOT RATION AND ON COMMUNITY VALUE. 
          IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT OPPOSITION HAS BEEN EXPRESSED BY THE CITY STAFF OPPOSITION HAS BEEN EXPRESSED BY THE FAMILY ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOUSE. 
          OPPOSITION HAS BEEN EXPRESSED BY 100% OF THOSE WOOD PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY OP OPPOSITION TO EIGHT ZONING HAS BEEN BY THE OWNER. 
          THE WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP HAS EXPRESSED NO OPPOSITION TO THE DEMO PERMIT. 
          AND THE ARCHITECTURAL COMMITTEE OF THIS PARTICULAR, UM, AREA OF TOWN HAS NO OPPOSITION TO THE DEMOLITION PERMIT. 
          SO IN CONCLUSION, IT'S NOT RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. 
          IT DOESN'T MEET THE CRITERIA. 
          IT HAS A DOUBLE VALID PETITION, THE OWNER, AND A HUNDRED PERCENT 11 OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. 
          THE FAMILY OF THE FORMER FORMER OWNERS OPPOSE EIGHT ZONING, THE WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP DOES NOT OPPOSE THE DEMOLITION. 
          AND BASED ON THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE IN YOUR PACKET AND PRESENTED HERE, WE ASK THAT YOU DECLINED A ZONING AND RELEASED THE DEMO PERMIT. 
          I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          RICHARD. 
          I WANTED TO JUST ADD, UM, AT THE, WHEN THE ITEMS COME UP FOR, UM, PRESENTATION, IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS AND YOU'RE STILL ON THE LINE, UM, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKE, WE MIGHT NEED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. 
          UM, SO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY ON THE LINE. 
          I'LL BE HERE. 
          HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU SAID YOU HAD 60 PEOPLE SPEAKING? GOOD. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          IT USUALLY TAKES US ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF TO TWO HOURS TO GET THROUGH ALL THE SPEAKERS. 
          THEN WE GO ONTO THE CON TO THE CASES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, RICHARD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, NEXT ON THE LINE FOR 27 0 8 SCENIC DRIVE, WE HAVE SUZANNE DEAL BOOTH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, GO AHEAD. 
          I I'M JUST HERE TO SAY THAT, UM, I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS GONE THAT EVERYONE HAS GONE TO, UM, ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND, AND OUR, UH, PLEA TO HAVE A DEMOLITION PERMIT. 
          AND, UM, I REALLY HAVE LOOKED AT ALL AT THIS FROM MANY DIFFERENT ANGLES AND, UM, I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO, UM, SAVE THIS BUILDING WITHOUT IT BEING, UM, YEAH. 
          SORT OF DETRIMENTAL TO THE ORIGINAL VISION OF THE ARCHITECT. 
          AND, UM, AND I HOPE TO BUILD A BEAUTIFUL HOME HERE. 
          I HOPE TO, UM, HAVE MY FAMILY LIVE IN THIS, ON THIS PROPERTY FOR YEARS TO COME SO THAT I'M JUST HERE TO ENDORSE THAT, UM, REQUEST FOR A DEMOLITION PERMIT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. DAVID. 
          ESCOBIDO ALSO FOR 2,708 SCENIC DRIVE. 
          MR. ESCOBEDO ARE Y'ALL ON THE LINE. 
          YES, WE CAN. 
          GO AHEAD, SIR. 
          I WAS ASKED BY ARMBRUSTER AND BROWN TO GO GIVE A VISUAL ASSESSMENT OF THE PROPERTY AND I ATTENDED THE PACKET IS MY LETTER. 
          IT, IT GIVES MY POINT OF VIEW. 
          I AM A, UH, A GENERAL CONTRACTOR HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          UH, YEAH, SINCE 83 AND REALLY MY LEFT STATE WHERE, WHAT MY POSITION IS AND TO, TO, UH, REMEDIATE THIS, UH, STRUCTURE WITH ONLY BE A REPLICA OF WHAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS. 
          THAT'S MY POINT OF VIEW. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE MORE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE HAVE ONE MORE FOR ITEM A ONE. 
          UH, MR. JERRY GARCIA, MR. GARCIA, GO AHEAD. 
          I'M A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER HERE IN AUSTIN. 
          UM, FOR THE LAST 30 PLUS YEARS, UM, WORKING PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL WORK AND A GREAT DEAL FOUNDED, PROBABLY THREE. 
          I'VE DEALT WITH STEVE STOUT FOR AGES, JUST TO THINK OF OUR HOME, GIVEN HIS AGE. 
          UH, AND IT'S REALLY THE AMOUNT OF, UH, NEGLECT, 
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UH, VERY LITTLE RAVINE VALUE STRUCTURALLY TO THE BUILDINGS. 
          IT WOULD TAKE A GREAT AMOUNT OF EFFORTS TO BRING BACK ANY REDEEMING VALUE TO THE STRUCTURE. 
          UH, YOU HAVE MY COMMENTS, UM, THAT IS AS FAR AS MY, UH, CURRENTLY GOES, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MR. GARCIA, YOU WERE CUTTING OUT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK YOU REFERRED TO YOUR LETTER IN THE THAT'S IN OUR BACKUP. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM, THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS REGISTERED FOR THIS ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK OUR NEXT ITEM, UH, OUR DISCUSSION ITEM IS SEEING 9 4200 LOWOOD ROAD. 
          YES, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ONLINE. 
          I'M MR. RICARDO SUPPLE VETA. 
          OKAY. 
          HI. 
          YES. 
          MY NAME IS RICARDO PULLED IT UP. 
          UM, I AM THE ARCHITECT REPRESENTING THE HOMEOWNERS AND TEAM FOR ITEM C NINE, UH, THE PROJECT ON 4,200 LOADS WITH ROAD. 
          UH, AND I SUPPORT THIS CASE. 
          UM, THE PROJECT ITSELF IS A FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD IT'S A TWO-STORY GARAGE AND BEDROOM ADDITION TO THE REAR OF THE EXISTING ONE STORY RESIDENCE. 
          AND THIS IS TO ACCOMMODATE THE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS GROWING FAMILY NE UM, AND FROM THE INCEPTION OF THE PROJECT, THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE MADE IT A PRIORITY TO DESIGN SOMETHING THAT IS COMPATIBLE AND RESPECTFUL OF THE EXISTING HISTORIC STRUCTURE, THE VIEW FROM THE STREETS AND JUST THE OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER. 
          UM, WE TOOK ALL OF OUR DESIGN ELEMENTS ON THE ADDITION FROM THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, INCLUDING THE WINDOW STYLES, SIZES, MATERIALS, ROOF LINES, AND JUST OVERALL PROPORTION. 
          UM, THE EXISTING HOUSE ITSELF, UH, WILL REMAIN FULLY INTACT EXCEPT FOR THE EXTERIOR WALL WHERE WE'RE TYING IN THE ADDITION AT THE REAR AND THE REPLACEMENT OF THE EXISTING WINDOWS. 
          UM, EXISTING HOUSE HAS A PREVIOUS BEDROOM ADDITION AT THE REAR, WHICH IS NOT ORIGINAL TO THE HOUSE AND WAS ALSO NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORIGINAL DEED RESTRICTIONS AND SETBACKS. 
          AND SO PART OF THE NEW PROJECT IS TO DESIGN AN ADDITION THAT IS RESPECTING ALL OF THOSE ORIGINAL DEED, ADD BACKS AND RESTRICTIONS, UM, TO ADDRESS THE COMMENTS FROM THE HISTORIC REVIEW DOCUMENTS, UH, REGARDING REPLACEMENT OF THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, AND THE HOMEOWNERS AGREE. 
          THOSE ARE BEAUTIFUL STEEL CASEMENT WINDOWS, BUT THEY ARE, UH, EXTREMELY COSTLY TO MAINTAIN AND HAVE ARE A SIGNIFICANT DETRIMENT TO THE OVERALL ENERGY EFFICIENCY OF THE HOME. 
          UM, AND SO THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE COMMITTED A PRETTY LARGE PORTION OF THEIR BUDGET TO IMPLEMENT A WOOD CLAD WINDOWS WITH TRUE DIVIDED GLASS, NOT FO DIVIDERS THAT HAS OFTEN SEEN IN FIBERGLASS OR VINYL WINDOWS, UM, WHICH WE FEEL IS AS CLOSE AS WE CAN FEASIBLY OR REASONABLY GET TO MATCHING THE ORIGINAL WINDOW STYLE WITHOUT GOING TO CUSTOM STEEL INSULATED WINDOWS, WHICH ARE JUST EXTREMELY COST PROHIBITIVE. 
          UM, AND THEN TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, WHICH WAS RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING A SECOND STORY ADDITION, UM, WE, UH, THEY MADE IT, UH, A POINT TO SAY THAT IT MIGHT BE OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE NUMEROUS TWO STORY HOUSES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN A BLOCK. 
          I CAN LIST 10 ADDRESSES AT THE MOMENT. 
          UM, I'VE GOT A FEW EXAMPLES HERE IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO LIST THEM, BUT, UM, WE, WE FEEL IT'S VERY MUCH IN CHARACTER WITH THE, WITH THE AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          AND HOW, UM, SO IT'S VERY MINIMAL IMPACT FROM THE STREET. 
          UM, AND THE REAR ADDITION IS ABOUT 25 FEET AWAY FROM THE REAR PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS WELL BEYOND, UH, ANY OF THE REQUIRED SETBACKS AND ALSO COMPLIES WITH, UH, ALL OF THE MCMANSION TENT STANDARDS. 
          UM, THE HOMEOWNERS CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND ARE VERY INVOLVED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS THE WILSHIRE WOOD DELLWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          AND THEY ARE ALSO ON THE HISTORIC SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACTIVELY PURSUING, MAKING WWD ONE, A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
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SO, UH, I HOPE THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AS IT MAKES A STRONG EFFORT TO ADAPT THIS HOUSE TOWARDS THEIR FUTURE FAMILY NEEDS WHILE ALSO TAKING INTO STRONG CONSIDERATION, THE HISTORICAL INTEGRITY OF NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ARE THE OWNERS ON THE LINE OR OTHERS SPEAKERS? THEY'RE NOT REGISTERED SPEAKERS. 
          THEY ARE WATCHING, UH, THE, THEY, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO REGISTER IN TIME, BUT THEY ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK YOU MADE YOUR CASE. 
          UM, THERE ARE ANCHORS AND OPPOSITION. 
          NO, THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM NUMBER. 
          OKAY. 
          OUR NEXT ITEM IS C 10, 9 0 2 SPENT STREET. 
          WE ONLY HAVE ONE, UM, PERSON REGISTERED TO SPEAK IN THAT AS THE APPLICANT AND MR. ART RAMIREZ. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. RAMIREZ, ARE YOU ON THE LINE, MR. RAMIREZ? IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT HE IS ON THE LINE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IF HE DOES, UH, GET BACK IN, UM, WE CAN TAKE THAT UP, UM, LATER IN THE AGENDA. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          THE NEXT ITEM C 11 IS 14, 15 WEST 10TH STREET. 
          WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER, THE APPLICANT, MR. ED RICHARDSON. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. RICHARD CENTER. 
          ARE YOU ON THE LINE? OKAY. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M ED RICHARDSON FROM CLOCKERS AND ARCHITECTS, WHERE THE APPLICANT FOR 14, 15 WEST 10TH STREET, UM, DR. 
          CENTER PATEL IS ON THIS PROPERTY SINCE 2011. 
          THIS PROJECT IS A CULMINATION OF A LONG-TERM DREAM TO DEVELOP A HOME FOR HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY ON THE SIDE. 
          UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT SLIDE TWO. 
          NOW THE PROPERTY IS A LARGE L-SHAPED LOT, LITTLE OVER A THIRD OF AN ACRE. 
          IT HAS SEVERAL AMAZING POSTDOCS OR FOR A STARTING POINT FOR OUR DESIGN PROCESS, UH, SLIDES THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE. 
          THERE IS AN EXISTING NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE LOCATED AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. 
          WE'RE PROPOSING THE DEMOLITION OF THAT STRUCTURE. 
          SLIDE SIX. 
          THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN TO WORK WITH THE EXISTING POSTDOCS AND TO MAINTAIN THE OPEN SPACE PRESIDENT OF THE STREET. 
          WE'RE PERSONALLY SETTING BACK THE STRUCTURE, 96 FEET FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE. 
          THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL 10 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY THAT E-SPORTS ONE ON WEST 10TH, SLIDE SEVEN. 
          THE NEW CONSTRUCTION PROPOSAL IS A FOUR BEDROOMS, FIVE AND A HALF BATH. 
          TWO-STORY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WITH AN ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE. 
          AND IT INCLUDES A DETACHED GUEST SUITE FOR, FOR THE RESIDENCES 60 97 SQUARE FEET. 
          THAT'S A COUPLE HUNDRED SQUARE PEOPLE IN THE MAX ALLOWABLE THAT HERBALIST, THAT AREA IS COMPARABLE IN SCALE TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES AT 1411 WEST 10, WHICH IS TO THE EAST OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS 66, 27 SQUARE FEET AND 1503 WEST 10TH WAS THIS DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS 53, 27 SQUARE FEET. 
          THAT'S ALL BASED ON TRAVIS CAD DATA, THE STREET FACADE IT'S SCALE TO ALIGN WITH THE EAVE HEIGHT OF 14, 11 WEST 10TH TO THE EAST HERE, THE SECOND FLOOR, THE OFFICE OF THE LOWER CEILING HEIGHT. 
          THEY PUT SIX OVER AN 11 FOOT CEILING HEIGHT ON THE FIRST FLOOR GARAGE, THE FRONT FACADE HEIGHT OF 21 FEET FROM GRADE TO THE UNDERSIDE OF THE PRIMARY ROOF IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT OR LOWER THAN OTHER TWO STORY STRUCTURES ARE COMPLETED IN CENTRAL AUSTIN. 
          FOR INSTANCE, WE DID A RENOVATION ADDITION AT 41 0 5, BUT I HAVE AN MD AND THE HIGH PARK HISTORIC DISTRICT AND HAD A 24 FOOT PLATE HEIGHT FROM GRADE FOR IT'S TWO STORY PORTION FOR IF YOU HIRE THIS PROPOSAL. 
          UM, THE EXTERIOR CLOTTING IS A TECTONIC CLOUDING, WHICH WILL CLOSELY RESEMBLE A LOCAL LOOTERS LIMESTONES TO SLIDE 10. 
          UM, SLIDE 11. 
          THE PROJECT ALSO FEATURES A FULL BASEMENT, UH, BELOW BOTH THE MAIN HOUSE AND GARAGE BOOKCASES. 
          THE BASEMENT IS FULLY BELOW GRADE WITH OVER 95% OF EXTERIOR WALLS COVERED SLIDE 13, WE'VE OUTLINED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH EFFORTS. 
          IN THIS SLIDE. 
          WE'VE HAD THREE MEETINGS WHERE THEY WANTED A ZONING COMMITTEE, NOT ALL ADJACENT NEIGHBORS ON SITES WOULD READ THE PROJECT. 
          WE'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE ATTEMPTED TO GET A SPOT ON THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE IN THE FALL, BUT WE'RE TOLD BY STAFF THAT WE NEEDED TO PRIORITIZE. 
          THEY NEEDED TO PRIOR TO DR. 
          LANDMARK AND LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT PRODUCTS OVER NATIONAL REGISTERED DISTRICT PROPERTIES AND CLOSING, WE LOOKED FORWARD TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS AND CONTINUED CONVERSATION WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AS WE MOVED THIS PROJECT FROM DESIGN THROUGH CONSTRUCTION TO COMPLETION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS, UM, STAFF, IF YOU STILL HAVE THOSE SLIDES, COULD WE SAY AN ELEVATION DRAWING? I THINK THE SPEAKER SPOKE PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SAW AN ELEVATION. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS. 
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THERE ARE NO OTHER SPEAKERS FOR THE SCIENCE CLASS AS MR. RAMIREZ COME IN. 
          IT DOES NOT SEEM SO. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE'LL GO ON TO D 2 23 0 5 RHEA. 
          GRANTED, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE, MR. MIKE MICONE. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. MCCOMB, MR. MCKOWN, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN GO AHEAD, MR. MCKOWN. 
          YOU CAN GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          MIKE MCCOWEN REPRESENTING THE OWNER, UH, SOMEWHAT SURPRISED TO HAVE ANYONE TO OPPOSE THIS CASE. 
          UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FAIRLY CLEAR THAT IT DOES NOT MEET THE STANDARDS FOR HISTORIC ZONING. 
          UH, IT IS IN THE UNIVERSITY NEIGHBORHOOD OVERLAY, UH, HIGH DENSITY DISTRICT, UH, THE INNER WEST CAMPUS, ALL OF THIS AREA WAS SUPPORTED BY THE SEVEN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SURROUND THE UNIVERSITY FOR REDEVELOPMENT. 
          THE CONDITION OF THE HOUSE AS, UM, SUPPORT SHOWN IN THE APPLICATION IS VERY POOR. 
          AND IN FACT, THERE ARE CODE AUSTIN CODE, UH, ISSUES, UH, WITH THE HOUSE, THE STRUCTURE IS CURRENTLY VACANT. 
          IT IS IN VERY POOR CONDITION, UH, ALL AROUND. 
          IT HAS BEEN A RENTAL PROPERTY FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND IT IS NO LONGER ECONOMICALLY VIABLE GIVEN ITS ADJACENCY TO OTHER REDEVELOPED PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND THE OWNER HAS ALSO SUBMITTED A PETITION AGAINST ZONING IT HISTORIC. 
          SO BASED UPON ALL OF THOSE, UH, ITEMS, UH, WE DO NOT FEEL THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TO BE A ZONE HISTORIC, THE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT IT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHT FORWARD CASE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MCKOWN. 
          IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? NO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE, UM, AN OPPOSITION. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MISS PAULA COACHMAN IN OPPOSITION. 
          OKAY. 
          PAULA MIN, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, PLEASE, UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR, UH, CASE FOR OPPOSITION. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I'D LIKE A POSTPONEMENT ON THIS PROPERTY TO, UM, LOOK AT THE, THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY. 
          I DO NOT THINK THAT OWNERS OF PROPERTY TO LET THEIR PROPERTY FALL INTO DISREPAIR AND TO BECOME DILAPIDATED, SHOULD BE REWARDED BY ALLOWING THEM TO DEMOLISH THE PROPERTY. 
          IT'S UP TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO KEEP, KEEP THE PROPERTY IN GOOD REPAIR. 
          SO DON'T FEEL LIKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE HOUSE IS IN BAD CONDITION IS A VALID ARGUMENT TO RAISE THE PROPERTY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THERE ANY, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. KOFMAN? OKAY. 
          ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? NO, BUT, UM, IF MIKE, MR. MCKELLAN MIGHT WISH TO REBUT. 
          YES. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          CHAIR AND MEMBERS, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. 
          BASICALLY THIS HOUSE IS EVEN IF IT WERE IN PRISTINE CONDITION, BASED UPON THE TRAVIS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICTS OF VALUATION OF A REAL ESTATE IN THE AREA, BASED UPON IT BEING IN THE UNIVERSITY NEIGHBORHOOD OVERLAY DISTRICT, UH, WILL NOT MAKE IT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE TO RESTORE A HOUSE OF THIS, UH, UH, SITUATE OF THIS SIZE AND THIS LOCATION. 
          THEREFORE, IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE IT, EVEN IF IT WERE TO BE ZONED HISTORIC, UH, THE, UH, VALUES THAT THE HISTORIC COMMISSION AND, UM, AGENCIES COULD GIVE IT, UH, IN REDUCTION OF TAX VALUE WOULD STILL NOT BE SUFFICIENT BECAUSE THE INCOME THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR ALARM PROJECT THIS SIZE RESTORED WOULD NOT COVER THE COST OF THE TAXES THAT WOULD BE AGAINST IT. 
          SO IT'S JUST SIMPLY NOT A FEASIBLE SITUATION FROM ANY, UM, ANY VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, THIS KIND OF GOES TO OUR EARLIER DISCUSSION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          UM, MOVING ON TO D 4 29 0 3 BREEZE TERRACE. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK? 
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WE HAVE THE PROPERTY ON THE LINE AND MR. MANUEL PUNA. 
          YES, I AM HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. 
          MANUEL . 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING TO ALL I AM THE OWNER OF 29 0 3 BREEZE TERRACE, AND I SUPPORT THE APPROVAL OF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT FOR THE HOUSES THAT SIT ON THE PROPERTY. 
          FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. 
          WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE WITH THE INTENTION TO BUILD TWO HOUSES. 
          BOTH OF WHICH ARE FOR MY FAMILY. 
          THE FRONT HOUSE IS TO BE USED BY MY SISTER AND HER WIFE. 
          THE BACK HOUSE IS FOR MYSELF, MY WIFE AND OUR BABY. 
          THAT IS ON THE WAY WE SEE THIS PROPERTY AS OUR FAMILY'S MEETING SPOT, THE TURMOIL AND POLITICAL DISASTER IN OUR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN, VENEZUELA MADE IT SO THAT WE HAVE LIVED APART FOR MANY YEARS. 
          AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN NEARLY TWO DECADES, WE'RE ALL TOGETHER IN THE SAME CITY. 
          AFTER LOOKING AT MANY OPTIONS IN AUSTIN, WE WERE DRAWN TO THIS LOCATION FOR MANY REASONS, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT TO ACHIEVE THE KIND OF HOME THAT WE WANT. 
          WE WOULD NEED TO DO A NEW CONSTRUCTION AT THE MOMENT OF PURCHASE. 
          THE PROPERTY WAS NOT LISTED AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK. 
          I MUST ALSO ADD THAT WE DO NOT AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT THAT THE BUILDING HOLDS A HIGH LEVEL OF INTEGRITY. 
          IT IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEND. 
          AND WE HAVE IMITATING THIS HOUSE AND BRING IT UP TO THE STANDARD WE WOULD ACHIEVE WITH A NEW HOME. 
          FIRST OF ALL, WE WOULD HAVE TO REPLACE ALL OF THE SIDING AND THE CURRENT HOUSE. 
          I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE RAISING MY FAMILY IN A HOUSE WITH A SPECIAL SETTING. 
          WE ALL KNOW THE NEGATIVE OUTCOME. 
          THIS COULD HAVE EVEN MORE WHEN I CAN NOT BE SURE THAT THE HOUSE HAS BEEN PROPERLY CARED FOR. 
          AND THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT MY FAMILY WILL BE THE ONE BEARING THE CONSEQUENCES. 
          THE WINDOWS WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY REPLACED. 
          THE HOUSE WOULD HAVE TO BE RE INSULATED NEW AGE VAC SYSTEMS INSTALLED. 
          THERE WAS A TREE MORE SPECIFICALLY EQUIPPED THAT QUIP MARITAL ENCROACHING, ASIDE OF THE BACK UNIT, MASSIVE INVESTMENTS IN ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING WOULD NEED TO BE MADE. 
          THE FRONT HOUSE HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED IN A VERY LONG TIME, AND I CAN NOT VOUCH FOR ITS UP-KEEPING. 
          ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACT IS THAT ON THE PROPERTY SITS A BEAUTIFUL PECAN THAT WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THE INITIAL DESIGN OF THE HOUSES. 
          WE ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL OPPORTUNITY THAT HAVING SUCH A GORGEOUS STREET PROVIDES TO A NEW PROJECT. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PREVIOUS OCCUPANTS AND VALUE WHAT THEY MEANT FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON, BUT FROM WHAT I FOUND, THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS ARE NOT RELATED TO THE HOUSE ITSELF. 
          WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO ALLOW A THIRD DOCUMENTATION OF THEIR PROPERTY. 
          IF YOU FEEL IT HAS VALUE TO KEEP PICTURES OF THE HOUSE WHERE IT'S HISTORIC, LOGAN'S LET ME ADD THAT WE ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED IN BECOMING A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND CONTRIBUTING TO IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION? YES, WE HAVE A MR. ALEJANDRO PIANO. 
          HELLO. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          HI, STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE FOR THE RECORD. 
          AND GO AHEAD. 
          MY NAME IS ALEJANDRO YANA AND I'M SPEAKING FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT AT 2 903 BREEZE TERRACE. 
          UH, AND I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, FIRST I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE FORMER RESIDENTS OF THIS HOUSE, MR. AND MRS. WALL TO THE FABRIC OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND THEIR RESPECTIVE FIELDS OF STUDY. 
          AT THE SAME TIME THOUGH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALLOW NEW NEIGHBORS, THE CHANCE TO MAKE THEIR OWN MARK CREATE THEIR OWN LEGACY AND THAT IN THEIR OWN WAY TO THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY, I IMMIGRATED TO AUSTIN IN 2006 FROM VENEZUELA IN A LARGE PART DUE TO THE POLITICAL SITUATION SINCE THEN AND THROUGH GREAT HARDSHIP, MY FAMILY AND I HAVE BEEN SLOWLY MANAGING TO GATHER AGAIN IN THE SAME PLACE. 
          MY BROTHER, MANUEL, WE JUST SPOKE, MOVED TO AUSTIN FROM CARACAS, WITH HIS WIFE IN 2019, MY FATHER AND MY MOTHER IN 2020, MY SISTER AND HER WIFE HAD PLANS TO MOVE HERE IN A COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          IT'LL BE THE FIRST TIME OUR FAMILY LIVES TOGETHER IN THE SAME CITY AND OVER 20 YEARS. 
          AND IT WOULD BE THE FULFILLMENT OF THE DREAM FOR ME AND MY PARENTS. 
          THE BRIEF TERRACE PROPERTY IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE CENTER OF OUR FAMILY LIFE. 
          MY BROTHER AND HIS WIFE ARE PLANNING TO BUILD A UNIT FOR THEMSELVES AND MY SISTER, THE SECONDARY UNIT IN THE PROPERTY. 
          IT'S THE PLACE WHERE WE WILL GATHER MOST SUNDAYS AND WHERE MY PARENTS WILL GET TO SEE THEIR GRANDSON GROW UP THE HOUSE. 
          THAT'S IT CURRENTLY EXISTS, COULD NOT ACCOMMODATE OUR FAMILY'S PLAN. 
          MR. AND MRS. WALLS CONTRIBUTION SHOULD BE CELEBRATED BY THE INSTITUTIONS THAT THEY SERVE AND BY THE PEOPLE THAT REMEMBER THEM AND SADLY, THIS HOUSE IS NOT AS SPECIFICALLY NOT A SPECIFIC REMINDER OF THEIR WORK OR LIVE, AND THERE'S NO REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT THIS WOULD CHANGE. 
          IF THIS DESIGNATION TAKES PLACE. 
          HOWEVER, A HISTORIC DESIGNATION WOULD GREATLY IMPACT MY FAMILY. 
          IT WOULD PREVENT US FROM FULFILLING OUR PLANS IN A REASONABLE TIME AND AT A REASONABLE EXPENSE AND ON A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT, BOTH EMOTIONAL AND FINANCIAL. 
          WE ASK THAT WE ARE AFFORDED THE SAME OPPORTUNITY THAT THE WALLS WERE GIVEN WHEN 
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THEY PURCHASED THEIR PROPERTY TO LIVE AND WORK AND PRODUCE AND CONTRIBUTE ON OUR OWN TERMS. AND IN OUR OWN HOME, WE ALSO ASK THAT YOU, THE CLIENT HAS STARTED THIS IGNATION AND APPROVED THE DEMOLITION PERMIT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? WE HAVE A MR. RYAN. 
          MCKELL WE'RE A REGISTERED. 
          OKAY. 
          LET ME JUST TURN RIGHT. 
          YES. 
          HELLO PRESCHOOL RIGHT HERE. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT. 
          UM, I FEEL LIKE I'M CURIOUS ABOUT TO PLAY THE PIANO AFTER JURY. 
          WE REALIZED AFTER THOSE TWO FROM THE PIANOS, BUT, UH, I OWN TWO PROPERTIES ON THE STREET I HAVE FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, SOME OF THE STREET EXTREMELY WELL. 
          AND, UM, I THINK BY THE STAFF ZONE RECOGNITION, THE, THE STRUCTURE ITSELF IS EXTREMELY MODEST. 
          AND AS A PROPERTY OWNER ON THE HOME, I THINK GIVING THE PIANOS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL HERE AND NOW IS GOING TO OFFER A LOT MORE VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY OF THE STREETS. 
          YOU KNOW, THEN WE'LL, UH, PRESERVING THE HOME OF THE WALL WHOSE IT SOUNDS LIKE HAD REALLY WONDERFUL HISTORIC LIVES, BUT MAINTAINING THAT PROFIT PRETTY, YOU WILL NOT HELP MAINTAIN THEIR LEGACY IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY WHERE IT'S GIVING THE PIANOS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THEIR FAMILY HOME. 
          IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A MUCH BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYONE ELSE? WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER REGISTERED FOR OPPOSITION, BUT I DO NOT KNOW IF HE IS ON THE LINE. 
          UH, MR. ETHAN SMITH, MR. SMITH, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? ETHAN SMITH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND HE WAS THE ONLY ONE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? YES, IT DOES NOT SEEM HE IS ON THE LINE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH, IT DOESN'T SEEM, SO LET'S GO ONTO THE NEXT CASE, WHICH IS 2007 WILLOW STREET. 
          YES. 
          WE HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THAT APPLICATION. 
          WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE, MR. TRAVIS YOUNG. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. YOUNG. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN GO AHEAD. 
          UM, MY NAME IS TRAVIS YOUNG. 
          I'M THE APPLICANT REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          UM, I AM ALSO AN ARCHITECT AND A FEW YEARS AGO, I DESIGNED AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT TO BE PLACED AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY AT 2007 WILLOW IN WHICH THE CURRENT OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY NOW HAVE RESIDED. 
          THEIR ULTIMATE PLAN WAS TO BUILD A NEW HOUSE ON THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THE BEGINNING PORTION OF THAT DISCUSSION AFTER HAVING LIVED IN THE ADU FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, UM, IS, IS, IS ULTIMATELY POSSIBLE. 
          UM, AND, UH, THE FIRST STEP IS TO SUBMIT FOR THE DEMOLITION OR RELOCATION APPLICATION FOR THE FISTING HOUSE ON THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, SO I AM SPEAKING, UH, FOR THEM. 
          THEY ARE ALSO ON THE LINE, UH, IF YOU NEED TO, UH, HAVE THEM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          HOWEVER, UH, I AM SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE, UH, DEMOLITION APPLICATION TONIGHT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          IF THEY DID NOT SIGN UP, THEN, UM, THEY CANNOT SPEAK, BUT IF THEY DID SIGN UP IN TIME, UH, BY ALL MEANS THEY CAN SPEAK TO THE APPLICATION. 
          THEY DID SIGN UP, I BELIEVE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, IF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, UM, UH, APPLICANTS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND DO SO. 
          HI, MY NAME IS AUSTIN BRAWNER, UM, I'M THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE AND OKAY. 
          JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT TRAVIS SAID. 
          WE LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO BUILDING A, UH, A BEAUTIFUL NEW HOUSE THAT, UM, REPRESENT THE LOVELY, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND YEAH, WE WERE IN FAVOR OF THE DEMOLITION. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS A PRETTY NICE HOUSE THAT REPRESENTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT, UM, IS THERE ANOTHER PERSON WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF DEMOLITION? WE HAVE A MISS CHELSEA REGISTERED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          MS. JONES, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? HI. 
          YES. 
          THIS IS KELSEY JONES. 
          UM, I AM A NEIGHBOR. 
          I LIVE, UH, ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE HOUSE. 
          UM, AND I WOULD, 
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UM, LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE DEMOLITION. 
          UM, THAT'S IT. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE A NEW ONE, UH, OPPOSED TO THE DEMOLITION? WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER IN FAVOR JOHNSON. 
          ARE YOU ON THE LINE? OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          HI, MY NAME IS HARLEY JOHNSON. 
          I'M ALSO THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE AND PROPERTY AT 2007. 
          WILLOW, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS MEETING AND HEARING US OUT. 
          I AM FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION. 
          THE FIRST IS MISS RACHEL PRINE. 
          OKAY. 
          MS. PRIDE, WHOOPS, STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND, AND PRESENT YOUR CASE. 
          HI, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. 
          UH, MY NAME IS RACHEL PRINE AND I OPPOSED THE DENTAL OF 2007 WILLOW STREET. 
          I LIVE NEXT TO WORDS OF THIS HOME AND I HAVE FOR OVER 15 YEARS. 
          AND, UM, ALTHOUGH THE DEED SAYS THE HOUSE IS FROM 1915, I ACTUALLY FOUND IT IN THE ARCHIVES AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER, UM, LISTED BEGINNING IN 1912, IT SAYS EARLY 19 HUNDREDS, PERIMEATAL MIDDLE COTTAGE OR A HIPPED ROOF SQUARE PLAN. 
          AND WHILE IT DOES HAVE NEW DOORS AND WINDOWS, IT RETAINS ALL THE FEATURES OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS SUCH AS, UM, UH, MORE OR LESS SQUARE FLOOR PLAN OF FRONT PORCH WITH COLUMN A GENEROUS HIPS ROOF WITH OVERHANGS AND SIMPLE DETAILING AT THIS HOME WERE FOUR BLOCKS WEST. 
          IT WOULD ALREADY BE A PROTECTED HISTORICAL HOME AS IT IS IDENTICAL AND THE YEAR BUILT AND STYLE TO MANY HOMES THAT ARE IN THE WILLOWS SENSE, HISTORICAL DISTRICT, WHICH AS THE NAME IMPLIES, RUNS DOWN WILLOW STREET, IT JUST DOESN'T COME ALL THE WAY DOWN TO US. 
          THE HOME IS IMPORTANT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARCHITECTURALLY AND CULTURALLY. 
          THIS HOUSE WAS THE LOCATION OF THE VERY FIRST SPANISH BRANCH OF THE LDS CHURCH IN AUSTIN. 
          IT IS LISTED AS SUCH AND THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER ARCHIVES, BOTH BY ADDRESS AND UNDERNEATH CHURCHES AND THE YELLOW PAGES. 
          UM, AND ALSO CONCERNS BECAUSE THERE WAS THERE THERE'S THOUGHTS, INFORMATION ON THE PERMIT. 
          THE PERMIT STATES THAT THE HOUSE HAS BEEN VACANT FOR 12 MONTHS, AND THIS IS UNTRUE. 
          THE HOUSE HAS BEEN CONTINUOUSLY OCCUPIED FIRST BY THE OWNERS OF 50 PLUS YEARS, AND THEN THE NEW OWNERS AND, UM, SUMMER ANSWERS AFTER THAT. 
          UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CONTINUOUSLY LIVED IN, IN THE HOME. 
          UM, ALSO CONCERNING IS THAT THE NOTIFICATION PROCEDURES FOR THE HEARING WERE NOT FOLLOWED. 
          THE NOTIFICATION SIGN WAS NOT DISPLAYED IN THE YARD UNTIL SATURDAY THE 26TH. 
          THAT'S JUST TWO DAYS AGO AROUND 4:00 PM. 
          AND, UM, I HAVE DATED AND TIMESTAMP PHOTOS OF THE HOME SHOWING THIS, UM, FROM LAST WEEK THAT I'M USING TO REACH OUT TO ON PRESERVATION SOCIETY. 
          AND I FIND THIS PARTICULARLY PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO GET AN ACCURATE ACCOUNT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO MIGHT BE OPPOSED TO THE DEMOLITION. 
          UM, IF THEY'RE NOT NOTIFIED OF THE DEMOLITION PERMIT, HEARING THROUGH THE NOTIFICATION TIME. 
          AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I IT'S, UH, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE IT'S IN EXCELLENT CONDITION AND I, I DON'T FEEL IT JUST, IT WAS THE HOME OF LADY AND CHILDREN. 
          HE TAUGHT PIANO LESSONS IN HIS COMMUNITY FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND SHE ACTUALLY JUST PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR. 
          HE WAS BORN IN 1934. 
          UM, I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT, I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT IT. 
          IT'S IT'S HISTORY AND IN GREAT SHAPE. 
          AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO JUST DEMOLISH IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS. 
          UH, AND IS THERE ANOTHER SPEAKER, UH, POSED TO THE DEMOLITION? YES. 
          MR. MATT, 
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I'M SORRY. 
          HELLO, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD. 
          HELLO? YEAH, MY NAME IS MATTHEW PRINE. 
          I AM A NEIGHBOR TO THE, UM, 2007 WILLOW STREET AND I'M OPPOSED TO THE, UH, THE DEMOLITION PERMIT. 
          UM, IT IS A BEAUTIFUL HOME THAT WE HAVE LOVED LIVING NEXT TO FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, HOPE TO KEEP LIVING NEXT TO IT AND ENJOYING THE HISTORY THAT IT HAS REPRESENTING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, I THINK RACHEL PRINE COVERED A LOT OF THE IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF WHY IT IS WORTH SAVING. 
          UM, SO I WON'T REPEAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE SAID, BUT, UM, I, AGAIN, I'M JUST OPPOSED TO THE DEMOLITION. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER SPEAKERS OPPOSED? NO, THAT'S ALL THE APPLICANT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT ONE PERSON, UH, IN FAVOR CAN MAKE A REBUTTAL IF THEY SO DESIRE. 
          OH, THIS IS TRAVIS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          UH, I WANTED TO THANK, UH, THE SPEAKERS THAT WERE IN FAVOR AS WELL AS OPPOSITION, AS WE KNOW, ALL OF THESE HOMES ARE, UM, HAVE A LOT OF EMOTIONAL AND PHYSICAL. 
          THEY BECOME THE EMBODIED EMOTIONS THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF HISTORY AND FAMILIES THAT HAVE LIVED IN PLACES. 
          AND SO I APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE DESIRES OF THE PUSH TO NOT THE HOME, UH, REMOVED, UH, JUST A POINT OF ORDER. 
          UM, I HEARD THE FIRST, UH, SPEAKER, AN APPLICATION STATE, OR STATE THAT OUR APPLICATION, UM, HAD, UH, RONIA SLEE NOTED THAT THE HOME WAS NOT OCCUPIED WHEN IN FACT, THE APPLICATION, UH, NOTES THAT THE HOME IS OCCUPIED AND IT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR. 
          UM, OUR APPLICATION IS ACCURATE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. 
          THIS IS 1308 ALTA VISTA AVENUE. 
          WE HAVE A MR. STEVEN WILLIAMS REGISTERED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. WILLIAMS, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, I AM. 
          OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          SO, UH, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          MY NAME IS STEVEN WILLIAMS. UH, I'M THE ARCHITECT REPRESENTING THE OWNERS AND THE CLAYTON A LITTLE PROJECT TEAM ON THIS PROJECT. 
          AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT AND THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED FORM. 
          SO 1308 ALTAVISTA IS AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME CONSTRUCTED SOMETIME IN THE LATE 1930S AND HAS BEEN EXTENSIVELY REMODELED IN 1980. 
          AND THEN AGAIN IN 19 4, 19 94, AND, AND LIKELY PRIOR TO THAT. 
          SO OUR STRATEGY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FAMILY'S NEEDS WAS TO MITIGATE THE MORE INTRUSIVE OF THE PREVIOUS REMODELS, UH, BY INCREASING INTERIOR DAYLIGHT LEVELS, IMPROVING THE INTERIOR CIRCULATION, UH, AND RESPONDING TO SOME SIGNIFICANT WATER DAMAGE, WHICH HAD OCCURRED DUE TO THE PREVIOUS ALTERATION. 
          SO DURING THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN, UH, PROCESS AND A DD AND TWO CDS, UH, WE WORKED TO BE AS CONSCIENTIOUS AS POSSIBLE REGARDING ANY STREET FACING ENHANCEMENT, UM, GIVEN THE KIND OF QUALITY OF HOMES THAT ARE IN AND AROUND THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND SO WE WANTED TO MINIMIZE THESE, UH, STREET FACING ALTERATIONS TO SOME PROPOSED, UH, VISUALLY LIGHTWEIGHT, UH, STEEL DOOR AND WINDOW ASSEMBLIES, WHICH ARE BEING PLACED, UH, IN FILLING TO EXISTING OPENINGS AND EXISTING CARPORT, ONE FACING THE STREET AND THEN ONE FACING SOUTH TO THE POOL. 
          UH, SO THE EXISTING COVERED AREA, UH, THAT WAS FORMERLY A CARPORT AND NO LONGER ACCESSIBLE BY CAR, UH, TO BE USED AS A BREAKFAST AND KIND OF READING AREA WITH DIRECT ACCESS FROM THE KITCHEN, THE INTERIOR STAIRWELL, AND THE GROUND FLOOR GUEST BEDROOM. 
          UM, THIS, UM, THIS, A CAR PORT, UH, CONCEALED, A ADDITION OF A CONDITION HALLWAY, UH, WHICH WE'RE PROPOSING TO GO FROM THE EXISTING KITCHEN TO THIS BREAKFAST AREA, UH, JUST TO INCREASE ITS USABILITY FOR THE, UH, THE OWNERS. 
          AND, UH, LET'S SEE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE HOUSE, UM, THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY COMPROMISED, BUT IN ADDITION TO THE EXTERIOR SECOND FLOOR PATIO WITH AN INTERSECTING GABLE ROOF, THAT COVERS APPROXIMATELY 40% OF THAT OUTDOOR SPACE. 
          SO DURING THE EXPLORATORY PHASE, IT WAS REVEALED THAT THE PATIO STRUCTURE HAD SIGNIFICANT WATER DAMAGE. 
          UH WHICH WILL REQUIRE SOME PRETTY IN DEPTH MITIGATION. 
          AND PART OF THAT MITIGATION STRATEGY WAS TO REDUCE THE CONCENTRATED WATER FLOW OFF THAT ADDED GABLE, OR BY RECLAIMING THE SPACE AS AN ADDITIONAL CITY OBSERVATION DECK, WHICH, UH, AND ITS CURRENT PROPOSED STATE RESIDES WELL LOWER THE PREVIOUS HEIGHT 
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OF THE GABLES PEAK. 
          UM, SO THIS DOES TWO THINGS. 
          IT REDUCES THE RUNOFF, UH, INSTILL LOWER SECOND FLOOR DECK AND ALSO REDUCES VISIBILITY FROM THE STREET SIDE, UM, ON THE INTERIOR OF THE EXISTING STAIRWAY, UM, ONCE SHARED AN EXTERIOR WALLS AND SOME GENEROUS WINDOWS, THEY ALLOW THAT STAIRWAY TO BECOME LIT. 
          UM, THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE DAY, UM, SOME ADDITIONS HAD TURNED THAT EXTERIOR WALL INTO AN INTERIOR WALL AND LIMITING THOSE WINDOWS, WHICH MADE THAT STAIRWELL FAIRLY DARK. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE PROPOSED TO THE ADDITION OF, UH, UH, LOW-PROFILE LIGHT MONITORS SKYLIGHT, UH, DIRECTLY ABOVE THAT STAIRWELL TO ALUMINATE THAT STAIR AND SUBSEQUENTLY SPILL OVER INTO SOME, THE INTERIOR ROOMS. UH, THIS, THE HEIGHT OF THIS ELEMENT WAS KEPT, UH, AS LOW AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, AGAIN, SO THAT IT WOULDN'T BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IN CONCLUSION, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANTED TO BE AS SENSITIVE AND RESPECTFUL TO THE ORIGINAL HOME. 
          UM, WHY WORKING WITH THE OWNER WHO, WHO LOVED THE HOME, UM, AT LEAST THE EXISTING EXTERIOR ORIGINAL ENVELOPE. 
          UM, AND SO WE JUST, WE TRIED TO KEEP AS MUCH IN THE ORIGINAL ENVELOPE INTACT AND REALLY THE ONLY DEMOLITION THAT'S OCCURRING, UM, ON THE BACKSIDE DURING THE 1918 AND 1994 EDITION. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IN CONCLUSION, AGAIN, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT, UH, AS STRONG. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION? WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ELSE REGISTERED FOR IN FAVOR, BUT WE DO HAVE THREE OPPOSED REGISTERED SPEAKERS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE OPPOSED WILL THE FIRST, UH, PERSON STATE YOUR NAME AND GIVE YOUR CASE, IT'S GOING TO BE A MISS MARTHA HEARTSONG OKAY. 
          MS. HARTSOCK ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, I AM MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. 
          I'M MARTHA HEARTSONG. 
          I LIVE AT 6 0 5 CON GROVE ROAD, TWO STREETS AWAY FROM 1308 ALTAVISTA AND WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA AND WITHIN THE PENDING NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, COULD TRAVIS HEIGHTS. 
          I ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND THIS IS OF COURSE BASED NOT ONLY ON HIS ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE, BUT ALSO ON THE IMPORTANT, UH, COMMUNITY ROLE TAKEN BY MRS. MABEL DAVIS AND THE HISTORY OF AUSTIN. 
          AS YOU KNOW, FROM YOUR PACKET, MRS. DAVIS WORKED WITH NOTED ARCHITECT, HUGO CUNY TO DESIGN THE AUSTIN AREA GARDEN CLUB. 
          AND THE ROSE GARDEN AT ZILKER IS NAMED IN HER HONOR. 
          AND THIS IS PART OF HER COMMUNITY SERVICE. 
          MANY YEARS AGO, I TOO SERVED ON THE CITY HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION. 
          AND OVER THE YEARS I REMAINED ACTIVE IN VARIOUS HISTORY AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS. 
          I'VE LIVED AT MY HOUSE ON THE CONVO FOR OVER 30 YEARS. 
          I WAS ATTRACTED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF ITS CHARM AND MIX OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLES FROM VICTORIAN TO POST-WAR FROM LARGE AND GRAND TO SMALL AND HOMEY, AS YOU WELL KNOW, IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT STILL RETAINS ITS INTEGRITY. 
          IT PRIDES ITSELF ON ITS SENSE OF COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S WARM, IT'S BALANCED MIX OF STYLES AND ENERGIES. 
          IT'S ARCHITECTURAL DIVERSITY AND ITS DIVERSITY OF AGES AND STAGES IN LIFE. 
          NOW I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT SHOULD THE APPLICATION FOR A STRICT ZONING NOT BE ACCEPTED. 
          I WOULD OBSERVE THAT IN REVIEWING THE PLANS FOR MODIFICATIONS, I'M PLEASED THAT THIS DOES SEEM TO BE AN ADAPTIVE REUSE. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU HEARD THE ARCHITECT TALK ABOUT THAT VERY ELOQUENTLY. 
          MY CONCERN IS ALWAYS THOUGH THAT THE PROPOSED CHANGES WILL NOT PROVE TO DIMINISH THE EXTERIOR CHARM AND ITS CONTRIBUTION TO THE BALANCED MIX OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND I WENT THINKING THAT WITH HISTORIC ZONING, THIS OUTCOME WOULD BE STRENGTHENED. 
          UM, FINALLY TODAY, ALL OVER AUSTIN, I'M CONSTANTLY REMINDED OF THE LINES FROM THE JONI MITCHELL SONG, FIND PARADISE AND PUT UP A PARKING LOT. 
          AND SO MANY OF NEW STRUCTURES BEING BUILT TODAY ARE WITHOUT ARCHITECTURAL MERIT AND MAY WELL BE JUST A PARKING LOT. 
          AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT THE 1308 HOURS OF THIS STUFF WILL NOT HAVE THAT SITE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION. 
          THANK YOU, MS. HARTZOG, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRIOR, UM, COMMITMENT TO THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION. 
          UM, IS THERE ANOTHER, UH, PERSON TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THE APPLICATION? YES. 
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AN OPPOSITION. 
          WE HAVE A REGISTERED SPEAKER, A BROOKS CASON. 
          OKAY. 
          BRICKS. 
          ARE YOU ONLINE? I AM ON THE LINE. 
          MY NAME IS BROOKS CASON. 
          I AM IN THE REQUIRED 500 SEAT NOTIFICATION OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          IF I HAD NOT RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN, I WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN THAT THERE WAS A DEMOLITION PERMIT BEING REQUESTED OR SPOKEN ABOUT. 
          I'M ASKING FOR POSTPONEMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, BECAUSE I, I BELIEVE THAT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO BE NOTIFIED THROUGH A, UH, THROUGH A SIGNAGE IN FRONT OF THE, UH, IN FRONT OF, UH, 1308. 
          SO THAT IS MY REQUEST. 
          I'M UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A PRESENTATION THAT SRC SEES A LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION, UH, COMPLETELY FROM, UH, FROM THE APPLICANT AND HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, ESPECIALLY THE, UH, ENCLOSING OF THE GARAGE, UH, THE PORT PORTE-COCHERE, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE I KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE THAT PROPERLY. 
          UM, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE ALTERATIONS OF, UH, UH, OF THE APPEARANCE FROM THE, FROM THE STREET. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND IS THERE A THIRD SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION? YES. 
          UH, MISS PAULA KOFMAN. 
          OKAY. 
          MS. GUZMAN. 
          OKAY. 
          HI. 
          I WANT TO THANK THE ARCHITECTS FOR, UM, HIS THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION ABOUT HIS PROPOSAL. 
          AND, UM, I ALSO SERVE ON THE PRESERVATION COMMITTEE FOR THE SOFT RIVER CITY CITIZENS. 
          WE'RE NOT HERE TO DICTATE TASTE. 
          WE ARE JUST WANTING TO SEE IF YOUR PROPOSAL WILL DISQUALIFY THE PROPERTY FOR A PENDING HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          OFTEN APPLICANT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND IS NOT AWARE THAT SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT THEY PROPOSE WOULD DISQUALIFY THE PROPERTY AND THEY MAY BE HAPPY TO MAKE SOME TWEAKS IN ORDER TO KEEP THE PROPERTY AS A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY. 
          SO I ASKED FOR A POSTPONEMENT OR PERHAPS AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BASED ON THOSE CRITERIA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. KURTZMAN, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO REBUT? SURE. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE, PLEASE GO AHEAD. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, ALL OF THE OPPOSITION SPEAKERS. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT OF VIEW AND OPINION. 
          UH, I DID WANT TO REITERATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THIS PROJECT, UH, THE OWNER ABSOLUTELY LOVED THE, UH, THE EXISTING EXTERIOR ONTO IT, BUT THIS BUILDING. 
          AND IF IT HASN'T BEEN FOR SOME OF THE PREVIOUS REMODELS AND HOW MUCH WATER DAMAGE THERE WAS, UH, IT WOULD BE LIKELY THAT INTERIOR OR THE REMODEL HAVE BEEN KIND OF LIMITED TO SOME INTERIOR. 
          UH TOUCH-UPS UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS NOT THE CASE UNTIL WE WERE ELECTRIC, TRY TO RESPOND TO THAT AS BEST WE CAN. 
          AND WE DID SO IN THE INTEREST OF TRYING TO PRESERVE THE HOUSE AND MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT WE DID DO WAS NOT ONLY SENSITIVE TO THE, UH, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND MINIMAL VISUAL IMPACT, BUT ALSO, UH, ALLOWED IT TO CONTINUE TO KIND OF THRIVE WITH A FAMILY HOME, HOPEFULLY FOR THE NEXT 70, 80, OR A HUNDRED YEARS. 
          AND, UH, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE ALTERATIONS PROPOSED OR SENSITIVE TO, UM, NOT ONLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT ONLY THE EXISTING HOUSE, BUT, UH, THE FABRIC OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND ITS HISTORY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE'RE MOVING ON TO NINE 16 BOLDEN AVENUE. 
          WE ONLY HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER AND OPPOSITION MS. PAULA. 
          OH, NO ONE IN SUPPORT. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THE, UM, IS THE SPEAKER IN OPPOSITION ON THE LINE? YES, PAULA COSMIN AGAIN, I WANTED TO ALERT YOU THAT I OWN A PROPERTY AND THE BOULDIN CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. 
          AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY HAD A PENDING HISTORIC DISTRICT UNTIL I READ MATTHEW COLDWELL. 
          WHO'S THE SECRETARY OF BOLAND CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ABOUT THAT PENDING HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PENDING HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          YOU CAN IMAGINE ABOUT THE OTHER RESIDENTS IN BOLDEN. 
          SO I ASKED FOR A POST POSTPONEMENT AND, UM, NOT TO TELL THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, WHAT TO DO, BUT THAT OWNER MAY NOT 
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BE AWARE AND THEY HAVE A HISTORIC, IF THEY HAVE A HISTORY DESIGNATION THAT, AND THEY, AND THEY HAVE IT AS A RENTAL PROPERTY, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO GET SIGNIFICANT TAX REBATE. 
          LIKE WE WERE TALKING TO THE PERSON EARLIER TODAY WHO WAS IN THE UT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT TAX REBATES THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHO PRESERVE AND WITH THE RENT AND BOLDEN HAVE INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY ALMOST DOUBLED FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR. 
          SO, UM, I'D ASKED FOR A POSTPONEMENT JUST SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT KNOWS ABOUT THESE POSSIBILITIES AND EVERYTHING, NOT TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT APPLICANT HAS A RELEVANT, UM, INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU, MISS CLUBMAN. 
          AND I'M GUESSING THAT THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS EITHER IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO THAT. 
          WE HAVE NO MORE REGISTERED SPEAKERS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THEN, OKAY. 
          AND DEAN 19 3009 BOWMAN AVENUE IS POSTPONED. 
          SO NOW COMMISSION, WE GOT THROUGH THE SPEAKERS IN RECORD TIME. 
          NOW WE GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING AGAIN AND GET OUR PRESENTATIONS AND THE COMMISSION WILL DISCUSS, UH, THE ITEMS ON, UM, ON THE AGENDA. 
          AND OUR FIRST ITEM IS A 1 27 0 8 
          [3.A.1. PR-2021-061096 – 2708 Scenic Dr. – Discussion Council District 10 Proposal: Recommend historic zoning (Commission-initiated); Demolish a ca. 1952 house. Applicant: Jewels Cain City Staff: Kalan Contreras, Historic Preservation Office, 512-974-2727 Staff Recommendation: Release the demolition permit upon completion of a City of Austin Documentation Package. The building does not appear to retain sufficient integrity to convey its significance as a mid-century Roessner design.]
SCENIC DRIVE HERE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE, UM, ITEM A 1 27 0 8 SCENIC DRIVE, UH, IS AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH AND ALSO, UM, A HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING. 
          UM, THE COMMISSION INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY LAST MONTH. 
          UM, AND IT CONSISTS OF A 1952 HOUSE AND A 1967 ADDED EXHILARATE BUILDING. 
          THE PRIMARY BUILDING IS A TWO-STORY MID-CENTURY MODERN HOUSE, QUITE IN VERTICAL WOOD SIDING AND STONE VENEER. 
          IT HAS FIXED AND FLOODING ALUMINUM WINDOWS, A FLAT ROOF BREEZEWAY, A LOW PITCHED METAL ROOF, STONE CHIMNEYS, AND METAL HANDRAILS. 
          THE HOUSE WAS BUILT FOR ATTORNEY ROBERT C MCINNIS AND HIS WIFE PHILANTHROPIST ETHEL MCGUINNESS IN 1952 BY AUSTIN ARCHITECT, RG REZNOR, ROBERT MCKENNA SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF THE BAR ASSOCIATION. 
          UH, HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE STATE JUDICIAL QUALIFICATIONS COMMISSION, AND HE WAS ALSO A UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS INSTRUCTOR AT THE CLIFT MCGUINNESS DIRECT TO THE PAN-AMERICAN ROUND TABLE VOLUNTEER BUREAU OF AUSTIN AND THE AUSTIN INTERNATIONAL HOSPITALITY COMMISSION AS PART OF HER WORK MCGINNIS HOSTED EVENTS AT HER RIVERSIDE HOME AT 27 0 8 SCENIC DRIVE. 
          SO UNFORTUNATELY DESPITE OUR EARLY OPTIMISM, UM, FURTHER RESEARCH SHOWED STAFF, UH, ENOUGH INCONSISTENCIES IN BUILDING INTEGRITY THAT WE UNFORTUNATELY CAN NOT RECOMMEND FURTHER ACTION TOWARDS HISTORIC ZONING AT THIS TIME. 
          UM, SO IN ADDITION TO SOME UNPERMITTED WINDOW AND CLADDING MODIFICATIONS, UH, NOTED BY THE APPLICANT EARLIER, UH, THERE WAS A ROOF REPLACEMENT IN 1986 THAT APPEARS TO HAVE ALTERED BOTH THE ORIGINAL MATERIAL AND THE ROOF LINE THAT SECONDARY BUILDING, UH, WHICH WAS CONSTRUCTION IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE MAIN HOUSE DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED BY ROESSNER, UH, STAFF. 
          WASN'T ABLE TO FIND A PERMIT OR RECORD OF AN ARCHITECT FOR THAT ADDED AUXILIARY BUILDING. 
          UM, SO WHILE THE PRIMARY BUILDING'S OVERALL FORUM REMAINS RELATIVELY INTACT, UM, IT APPEARS TO BE MISSING SOME OF THE MATERIAL DETAILS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH ROADRUNNER'S OTHER RESIDENTIAL WORK ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY. 
          AND WE'RE NOT SURE IF THESE WERE PRESENT, BUT REMOVED AT THE TIME OF THAT 1967 EDITION AND AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE SITE COHESION, MAYBE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS OR IF THAT A PRIMARY BUILDING WAS JUST CONSTRUCTED IN A BARE BONES MANNER, UM, WITHOUT THOSE CHARACTERISTIC DETAILS TO BEGIN WITH. 
          UM, SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION RELUCTANTLY IS TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, CAROLYN. 
          UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION COMMISSIONER, VILLAINS WAYLAND? I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE STAFF UPDATE ON THE STANLEY INSTEAD, IS THAT, ARE WE GOING TO GET THAT BEFORE WE GO INTO THE CASES OR I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. 
          I THINK I DID JUMP THE GUN ON THAT, UM, STAFF AND WE'D BACK UP AND GET THAT UPDATE ON THE STANLEY HOMESTEAD. 
          UH, CERTAINLY. 
          OR DO WE WANT TO FINISH DELIBERATION ON THIS PACE FIRST AND CIRCLE BACK? LET, UM, 
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PLEASE FORGIVE ME, UH, HERE FOR THE SNAFU. 
          LET, LET US DO, UH, FINISH THE DELIBERATIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND THEN STEP BACK TO HAVE THAT UPDATE ON THE STANLEY HOMESTEAD. 
          MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONER WILL ROSHA MOVE TO APPROVE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, TO APPROVE THE DEMOLITION. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          THE PROPOSAL IS, UH, TO REC WELL, EMISSION INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING. 
          THE PROPOSAL BY THE APPLICANT WAS TO DEMOLISH THE CIRQUE IN 1952 HOUSE. 
          SO YOUR MOTION IS TO DEMOLISH THE HOUSE, CORRECT? YES. 
          MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMEND. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? OKAY. 
          WHO IS THAT COMMISSIONER? OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER LITTLE IT, THE MOTION IS MADE BY COMMISSIONER LAROCHE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LITTLE. 
          IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM? UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I, I THINK I SECONDED IT AT THE LAST MEETING AS WELL TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING, BUT I THINK FOR A BUILDING TO BE DESIGNATED A HISTORIC LANDMARK, IT HAS TO RETAIN INTEGRITY AND MEET TWO OF OUR CRITERIA. 
          AND WITH, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND BY THE OWNERS AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, I THINK WITH THE CHANGES TO THE DESIGN AND THE MATERIALS AND THE WORKMANSHIP, INCLUDING THE, THE ROOF PITCH, THE ADDITIONS, THE WINDOWS AND THE CLADDING ALTERATIONS. 
          I JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN SAY THAT THIS HAS A HIGH DEGREE OF INTEGRITY AND IT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE ARCHITECTURE HAS BEEN MINIMIZED AS WELL. 
          I THINK THAT THE INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING WAS, UH, KIND OF, UM, CAUTIONARY, UH, DIDN'T WANT TO JUST ELIMINATE, UM, A REZNOR DESIGN, UH, WITHOUT SOME CONSIDERATION. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S, UH, ADDITIONAL RESEARCH ON IT. 
          UM, WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, UH, BEFORE WE TAKE THE VOTE? YEAH. 
          YES. 
          I JUST WANT TO SECOND WHAT YOU SAID CERTAINLY WERE, SHOULD WE SAY I'M HOPEFUL THAT THERE MIGHT BE POTENTIAL AND JUST THAT EXTRA CAUTION? I THINK BENEFITED EVERYONE CLEARLY THE OWNER IS VERY AWARE OF WHAT THEIR INTENTION IS AND WAS VERY MINDFUL OF THE HISTORY. 
          AND I THINK WE HEARD A VERY, UH, WELL CONSIDERED DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE HOUSE AND WHAT ITS MERITS MIGHT BE. 
          AND I HAVE TO AGREE THAT IT WOULD NOT MERIT, UM, CERTAINLY INITIATION OVER AN OWNER'S OBJECTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO, UM, RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE THAT IS, UH, PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL FACADES AND A WRITTEN NARRATIVE HISTORY OF THE BUILDING, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY RAISING YOUR HAND. 
          IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED? OKAY. 
          THE MOTION PASSES, MADAM CHAIR, UH, GOING FORWARD. 
          CAN WE ASK FOR A VOICE VOTE FROM COMMISSIONER LAROCHE? UH, THIS WAS HIS MOTION. 
          I PRESUME HE VOTED IN FAVOR, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR OTHER VOTES. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER EROSION, UH, GOING FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR A VOICE MESSAGE FROM YOU. 
          WE'RE JUST CHECKING AFTER, MAKE SURE YOU'RE STILL ON THE LINE THERE. 
          YES. 
          AND I WASN'T FAVOR A LITTLE BIT AND THAT'LL ALLEVIATE THAT ISSUE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MY APOLOGIES. 
          MADAM CHAIR. 
          WE'RE OKAY. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          UM, WE HAD A LOT OF CONSENT ITEMS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA FOLLOWED BY MADAM CHAIR. 
          LET'S GO BACK TO THE, UH, THE FAMILY HOMESTEAD. 
          YEAH, LET'S GO BACK TO THE FAMILY HOMESTEAD. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, SO COMMISSIONERS 
          [2.A. Staff update on Stanley Homestead Outbuilding relocation issue C14H-2000-0012 – 1809 Newton Ave. Council District 9]
AT OUR PRIOR MEETING, UM, YOU TOOK A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO DIRECT STAFF TO, UM, COMMUNICATE WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT AND INVESTIGATE WHETHER THERE WERE ANY LEGAL REMEDIES FOR THE STANLEY HOME SET OUT BUILDING, WHICH IT APPEARS BASED ON A YOUTUBE VIDEO MAY HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED RATHER THAN CAREFULLY RELOCATED STONE BY STONE PER THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS THAT WAS ISSUED IN 2017. 
          I DO NOT HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT AT THIS TIME, BUT I DID WANT TO, UH, SHOW YOU THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE DID, UH, AT THE STAFF LEVEL TO TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT WITH THIS CASE. 
          UH, SO I WILL RUN YOU THROUGH A SERIES OF PHOTOGRAPHS 
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AND, AND TALK ABOUT WHAT I'M SEEING HERE. 
          SO THIS FIRST PHOTOGRAPH IS BEFORE RELOCATION. 
          THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH FROM THE, UH, HISTORIC ZONING FILE FOR THE SANLI HOMESTEAD OUTBUILDING. 
          UH, YOU'LL NOTE TO THAT, THERE IS A HORIZONTAL COURSE OF SMOOTH STONEWORK AT THIS LEVEL, AND THAT THE TOP OF THE GABLE IS OPEN AFTER RELOCATION THERE. 
          UM, THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH THAT THE FORMER OWNER, UH, POSTED ONLINE. 
          UH, WE DON'T HAVE A DATE, BUT IT LOOKS TO BE, UH, SHORTLY AFTER RELOCATION AND SAID, THIS MOOSE STONEWORK, WE HAVE A WOODEN BEAM ACROSS HERE AND MORE OF THE GABLE IS INFILLED WITH STONE. 
          UH, ALSO IF YOU LOOKED AT THESE PHOTOGRAPHS SIDE BY SIDE THERE, IF YOU TRY TO TRACK ANY ONE STONE, UM, THEY DON'T APPEAR TO BE IN THE SAME LOCATION. 
          THEY'RE THE SAME, UH, GENERAL CHARACTER, SAME  SURFACE. 
          UH, BUT IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A STONE BY STONE NUMBERED RELOCATION. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SHARED WOULD HAPPEN, THAT IT WOULD BE THAT THEY WOULD, THE STONES WOULD BE NUMBERED AND REPLACED BACK IN THEIR EXACT POSITION. 
          EXACTLY. 
          UH, THEN ALSO OF CONCERN ARE TWO ADDITIONS ON THE BUILDING. 
          UM, ONE OF WHICH SHOWS UP AND, UH, THIS PHOTO FROM 2018, AH, HERE IT IS AGAIN TODAY. 
          UH, IT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE IN THE SIDING ON IT AND IT'S, UM, KIND OF, UH, UH, SEMI ENCLOSED AREA WITH THE SINK, UM, TO GO WITH AN OUTDOOR RECREATION AREA THERE, UH, WITHIN THE YARD, UM, ON THE WEST ELEVATION. 
          THIS IS BEFORE THE RELOCATION FROM THE HISTORIC SIGNING FILE. 
          CURRENT IMAGE, UH, SHOWS A WINDOW WAS ADDED INTO THIS ELEVATION. 
          AND AGAIN, IF YOU WERE TO COMPARE STONE BY STONE, UH, IT DOES NOT MATCH ALSO OF CONCERN ON THE EAST SIDE IS THIS SLIDELL KIND OF SHED ROOFED ADDITION HERE THAT, UM, IS FUNNELING WATER TOWARD THE HISTORIC ROOF. 
          UH, BOTH THAT FRONT AND SIDE EDITION. 
          I DON'T SEE ANY EVIDENCE THAT STAFF OR THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, UH, REVIEWED THOSE CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY. 
          THIS ONE, I WAS NOT ABLE TO PUT AN EXACT DATE TOO, BUT IT DOES APPEAR TO PREDATE THE CURRENT OWNERS ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND THEN FINALLY LET ME GET TO A DIFFERENT VIEW. 
          UM, THERE IS WHAT APPEARS TO BE A HEADSTONE, BUT HAS ME A BIT CONFOUNDED AS TO WHAT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF, UM, UH, THIS PIECE OF STONEWORK IS THIS IS INCORPORATED INTO A GATE POST AT THE STANLEY HOMESTEAD AT KIND OF AT THE MAIN TO THE FRONT STEPS OF THE PROPERTY, UH, READS EMMA BRUCE DIED JUNE 25TH, 1925. 
          UM, THERE IS A FAMILY TREE ON ANCESTRY.COM THAT INDICATES SAID, EMMA LOUISE, AND WHOSE MAIDEN NAME WAS BRUCE STYLE AND CHILDBIRTH ON THIS DATE IN SAN ANTONIO, SHE IS BURIED IN THE MASONIC CEMETERY IN AUSTIN. 
          AND, UH, STAFF IS NOT AWARE OF A SPECIFIC CONNECTION TO THIS PROPERTY. 
          UM, SO WE ARE NOT SURE WHERE THAT STONE CAME FROM OR WHAT ITS MEANING IS RELATIVE TO THE STANLEY HOMESTEAD. 
          UH, SO CERTAINLY THERE IS A LOT HERE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          UH, STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO TALK WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT THEY MAY BE SENDING A BRIEFING TO ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS BY EMAIL BEFORE THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING HAS ANYTHING BEEN, UH, DISCUSSED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER? UH, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER BEFORE I WENT OUT AND TOOK THOSE PHOTOS. 
          I GOT PERMISSION FROM HER TO GO ON SITE. 
          UM, MY STRONG PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO LEAVE THE CURRENT OWNER OUT OF, UM, WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING AT PRESENT. 
          UH, SHE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY WITH THOSE CHANGES ALREADY MADE, UH, STAFF HAD REACHED OUT TO THE PRIOR OWNER AND, UH, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY FURTHER COMMUNICATION, UH, SINCE THE EMAIL CONVERSATION IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING. 
          AND THAT WAS JIM STOCKBAUER. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          UM, IF SOMETHING, THESE CHANGES AS THE ADDITIONS IN PARTICULAR HAVE TO BE REMOVED AND IT, THIS WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN, UM, IN SOME WAY, THIS, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A DESIGNATED AUSTIN HISTORIC LANDMARK. 
          THEY RECEIVE TAX BENEFITS FROM THIS, UH, DESIGNATION. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THE, UH, THE PRIOR OWNER WHO APPARENTLY, 
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UM, DID THE DEMOLITION AND, AND MADE THESE ADDITIONS, BUT IT, IT NOW IS, HAS TO BE SOME, UH, RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CURRENT OWNER TO HAVE THESE THINGS REMOVED. 
          SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR ANY ACTION FROM THE COMMISSION TONIGHT. 
          WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE FOUND SO FAR. 
          UM, WE WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT AND CERTAINLY ANTICIPATE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMISSION MOVING FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. 
          UM, YES. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER TILA. 
          I WOULD ASK THE CITY STAFF TO LOOK INTO THE HEADSTONE IF YOU'VE KNOW WHERE IF, IF THIS IS A TRUE HEADSTONE AND THIS IS MISSING, IF THE, IF THE BURIAL PLACE IN THE MASONIC CEMETERY IT'S MISSING THE HEADSTONE, UH, THERE APPEARS TO BE THE BEST WAY TO MAYBE IT'S MISAPPROPRIATION. 
          UH, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PLACED ON A PREVIOUS CYLINDER IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S, IF IT WAS DONE DURING HIS TIME. 
          UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER TO LET, UM, IT'S, THERE IS A DIFFERENT HEADSTONE, I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED A PHOTOGRAPH AND THE REPORT, UM, BUT FIND A GRAY HAS A PHOTOGRAPH OF A DIFFERENT HEADSTONE WITH THE MARRIED NAME OF THIS PERSON AT THE MASONIC CEMETERY. 
          SO EITHER WE FOUND THAT THERE'S EITHER SOME STRANGE COINCIDENCE IS GOING ON OR STUFF, THAT STUFF IS JUST PERPLEXED BY, UH, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT STONE. 
          IF THE, IF THE CURRENT HEADSTONE THAT'S IN THE CEMETERY IS IF IT, IF IT'S A REPLACEMENT, WOULD YOU CHECK INTO THAT? UH, I MEAN, IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE D THE NAME AND DATE. 
          THAT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE. 
          UH, THAT'S BECOME, IT'S TIED INTO THE PERSON THAT'S DECEASED. 
          UH, SO I JUST CURIOUS, I, UH, I THINK THIS IS A VERY BAD FORM, AND I THINK, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THE CITY I HATE TO SAY I'VE SEEN CITY LEGAL AND SOMETIMES NOT AS AGGRESSIVE AS THEY POSSIBLY COULD BE. 
          AND I WOULD ASK THAT, UH, YOU ENCOURAGED CITY LEGAL TO LOOK AT THIS WITH A VERY HARD EYE, UH, BECAUSE IF THIS LET LET GO AND JUST, WELL, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 
          THAT SETS AN EXTREMELY POOR PRECEDENT. 
          AND, UH, ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU LL IT MAY NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF OFFENSE THAT, UM, GRAVE ROBBING MIGHT. 
          UM, IT CERTAINLY IS A DISTASTEFUL. 
          UM, I THINK OUR NEXT ITEM IS SCENE 
          [3.C.9. HR-2021-082905 – 4200 Lullwood Rd. – Discussion Wilshire National Register District Council District 9 Proposal: Demolish previous additions and construct a two-story addition; replace existing steel windows. Applicant: Ricardo Sepulveda City Staff: Elizabeth Brummett, Historic Preservation Office, 512-974-1264 Staff Recommendation: Encourage retention of original steel casement windows on the façade, but comment on and release the permit upon completion of a City of Austin Documentation Package.]
9 4200 LOWOOD ROAD. 
          YES. 
          BEAR ME WITH, WITH ME JUST A MOMENT WHILE I GET THE VISUAL UP FOR THAT, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE, UH, OF NEW COMMISSION MEMBER, THIS, UM, OUTBUILDING THAT WAS ON THE STANLEY HOMESTEAD AS PART OF A, A LANDMARK DESIGNATION AND THE YOUTUBE VIDEO SHOWED, UM, THE, UH, DEMOLITION, UH, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NUMBERED AND MOVED AND ALL THE STONES REPLACED, UH, IN THEIR PROPER PLACES. 
          AND, UM, THE YOUTUBE VIDEOS SHOWED A PRETTY, UM, AMBITIOUS, UH, SLEDGEHAMMERING OF THE BUILDING. 
          AND, AND THEN STAFF FOLLOWED UP WITH THESE PHOTOGRAPHS, THAT SHOW, UM, IT WAS NOT APPARENTLY TREATED IN THE WAY THAT, UM, THAT IT WAS, IT WAS GIVEN APPROVAL TO BE MOVED WITH THOSE CONDITIONS AND THOSE CONDITIONS, UH, DO NOT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN MET. 
          OKAY. 
          IS A STAFF READY? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS 4,200 LOWOOD YES. 
          THIS IS A PROJECT AT 4,200 LOWOOD WA ROAD, WHICH INVOLVES CONSTRUCTION, A DEMOLITION OF SOME EXISTING REAR AND GARAGE. 
          AND EXCUSE ME, GARAGE AND BEDROOM ADDITIONS, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO STORY ADDITION WITHIN A SIMILAR FOOTPRINT, UH, THAT WILL LARGELY APPEAR SIDE GABLED FROM THE STREET AND WILL BE CLAD AND FI FIBER CEMENT SIDING SIMILAR TO THE SIDING ON THE GABLE ENDS OF THE EXISTING HOUSE AND REPLACEMENT OF THE ORIGINAL STEELCASE MINT WINDOWS THROUGHOUT THE HOUSE, UH, WITH FIXED OR CASEMENT FIBERGLASS WINDOWS, UM, THAT ARE ANDERSON 100 SERIES WITH FULL DULL, FULL DIVIDED LIGHTS. 
          UM, THIS HOUSE WAS HISTORICALLY 
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ASSOCIATED WITH HILTON AND ELEANOR. 
          NOW, UH, THEY WERE THE OWNERS OF THE HOME FROM 1948 UNTIL THE END OF THE ONLINE OCCUPANCY RESEARCH WE'RE ABLE TO DO CURRENTLY, UH, THROUGH 1958. 
          UH, THE NAILS ARE A HOUSEHOLD NAME, UH, DUE TO THE ASSOCIATION WITH NAILS AND FIELD DRUGSTORE, WHICH REMAINS AN OPERATION AT WEST 12TH IN WESTLAND STREETS IN THE WESTLINE HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, DOING SOME BACKGROUND RESEARCH ON THE NOWS, UM, HILTON NOW WAS PERHAPS, UM, UH, FOLLOWED IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF HIS OLDER BROTHER LADNER. 
          UH, BUT THERE ARE NOT ANY OF THE MULTIPLE PHARMACIES THAT, UH, LADNER FOUNDED ARE NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE. 
          UH, SO THE NAME LIVES ON THROUGH THE, UH, THE NOW INFIELD DRUG STORE. 
          UH, ELEANOR NOW DID THE, UH, BOOKKEEPING AND CONTINUED FOUR YEARS AFTER THE COUPLE SOLD THE BUSINESS TO PHARMACISTS LAMBERT. 
          LEBAY IN 1972, LEBAY CONTINUES TO OPERATE THE DRUG STORE AND SODA FOUNTAIN. 
          UM, SO JUST IN TERMS OF EVALUATION OF THIS PROJECT, RELATIVE TO THE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, THE, LET ME SEE IF I CAN, I'VE GOT A KIND OF A SCREEN AND THE WAY, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET TO THE RENDERING, UH, FROM THE STREETS. 
          THE, UH, TWO-STORY ADDITION IS RELATIVELY UNOBTRUSIVE IT'S TO THE REAR OF THE, UH, HISTORIC FOOTPRINT OF THE HOUSE HAS GENERALLY ASIDE GABLED ADDITION THAT AND KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE HOUSE AND, UH, MEETS THE RELEVANT REQUIREMENTS FROM THE HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS. 
          UH, WHAT STAFF IS PRIMARILY CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE ORIGINAL STEEL CASEMENT WINDOWS, AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND AS THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT CONSIDER RETAINING THOSE STEEL CASEMENT WINDOWS ON THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE, AND, UH, TAKING OTHER MEASURES TO IMPROVE THEIR ENERGY EFFICIENCY, WHETHER THAT'S, UM, UH, PLACING SOME FILM ON THE WINDOWS OR CONSIDERING IT INTERIOR STORM WINDOWS, UH, SOLELY FOR THOSE WINDOWS TO KEEP THE STREETSCAPE APPEARANCE, UM, OTHERWISE STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDS COMMENTING ON AND RELEASING THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE YOU'RE MUTED. 
          TERRY, THANK YOU, CAROLINE. 
          UM, DEAD SILENCE THERE. 
          UH, IS THERE A MOTION ON THE CASE TO BEGIN THE DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER COOK FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION? I WILL, UH, MOVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOCUSING HEAVILY ON THE ENCOURAGING RETENTION OF THE ORIGINAL STEEL CASEMENT WINDOWS, BUT, UH, RELEASING THEIR PLANS PENDING A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M A LITTLE TORN ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I AGREE THOSE, THOSE WINDOWS ARE, ARE JUST SO FUNDAMENTAL TO THE CHARACTER OF THE HOUSE. 
          I MEAN, THE CLADDING OBVIOUSLY IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT, UH, JUST IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN GENERAL, THE POTENTIAL FOR IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, LANDMARK IN THE FUTURE, GIVEN THE ASSOCIATIONS, IT'S JUST SO CLEAR. 
          THE OWNER OBVIOUSLY DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF MAKING THE ADDITION SENSITIVE SENSITIVELY DESIGNED, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UH, IT'S AN OUT TO STOP KNOWING IF I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, POSTPONE, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE OUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY, ALTHOUGH THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY POSSIBLE TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING. 
          I JUST DIDN'T FEEL STRONGLY ENOUGH, UH, TO, TO USE THOSE TOOLS TO ENCOURAGE THE RETENTION OF THE WINDOWS. 
          BUT, UM, I DO FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT, BUT I MADE THE MOTION JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION. 
          SO I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT OTHER ACTIONS WE MAY TAKE WITH STRONGLY ENCOURAGE RETENTION. 
          I, I AGREED THAT THE CASE WENT WINDOWS ARE REALLY A CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURE OF THIS HOUSE AND SOME OTHERS OF THE SAME VINTAGE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LOSING THOSE WOULD, WOULD BE A SHAME, THE, THE OPTION OF THE INTERIOR STORM WINDOWS. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT THE, UM, THAT THE APPLICANTS HAVE, UM, I HAVE LOOKED INTO THAT. 
          UM, BUT IF THEY'RE ON THE LINE, UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO HEAR, UH, IF THEY HAVE LOOKED INTO SOMETHING LIKE INTERIOR STORM, WINDOWS, OR FILM, UH, 
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ESPECIALLY ON THE MAIN FACADE, THE PRIMARY STREET FACING FACADE OF THE HOUSE IS THE APPLICANT, UM, THE ARCHITECTS ON THE LINE. 
          CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? OH, THAT SPECIFIC METHOD WE HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO. 
          UM, SO WHAT I DID WANT TO, UM, MAYBE RESTATE FROM EARLIER WAS I THINK INITIALLY IN THE, UM, DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE THAT WE SUBMITTED, I THINK SHE MENTIONED IT EARLIER THAT EVERYTHING WAS KIND OF LABELED AS ANDERSON 100 WINDOWS, WHICH ARE, UH, FIBERGLASS FIXED WINDOWS. 
          UM, BUT WE HAVE, UM, MADE THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT INTO A LARGE PORTION OF THEIR BUDGET TO, UM, OFFING FOR, UM, WOOD CLAD WINDOWS, WHICH ARE TRUE DIVIDED GLASS WINDOWS, UM, WHICH WE FEEL ARE, GET MUCH CLOSER TO THE PROFILE AND, UM, AESTHETIC OF A MORE HISTORIC WINDOW, UM, FOR THAT TYPE OF HOME. 
          UM, WHILE NOT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY GOING TO, UH, THE FULL, UH, CUSTOM STEEL WINDOWS, UM, THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO PURSUE, UH, IN TERMS OF REPLACING THOSE EXISTING WINDOWS ON THE HOUSE. 
          UM, WE FELT LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK ALSO THE, ONE OF THE OTHER COMMENTS ON, UM, THE REVIEW WAS THAT OUR GRID PATTERN DIDN'T QUITE MATCH THE EXACT GRID PATTERN OF THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS. 
          AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND ALSO, UM, MIMIC IN THE NEW, UH, WINDOWS. 
          AND JUST, AGAIN, THE FURTHER ALIGN THE REPLACEMENT WINDOWS WITH THE ORIGINAL CHARACTER, IF I MAY INTERJECT THIS IS ELIZABETH FROM IT ON STAFF. 
          UM, I WOULD SAY WHAT'S SIGNIFICANT, UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, AN ACCURATE REPLACEMENT FOR A STEEL CASEMENT WINDOW IS THAT THE VERY LIGHT, UM, MUNTON PATTERNS, UM, THEY TEND TO BE, UH, A SMALLER PROFILE THAN YOU WOULD SEE ON WOOD WINDOWS AS WELL AS YOU'VE GOT A, UH, A HEAVIER EXPRESSION AROUND THE EDGE OF THE OPERABLE SASH FOR THE CASEMENT WINDOW. 
          AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO REPLICATE THROUGH A WOOD CLAD SYSTEM, BUT I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO TALK WITH THE APPLICANT FURTHER ABOUT THAT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. WRIGHT COMMISSIONER, RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS TO LOOK AT IS THE SIZE OF THE FRAME ITSELF. 
          UM, MOST REPLACEMENT WINDOWS I'VE SEEN FOR STEELCASE MITSUI ONLY WAY TO GET A VERY NARROW FRAME LIKE STEEL CASEMENTS HAVE, IS TO GO BACK WITH ANOTHER STEEL PRODUCT, EVEN A LOT OF ALUMINUMS THAT MIGHT, UM, PRETTY WELL MIMIC THE MUTTON SIZE OR SOME OF THE OTHER DIVISIONS. 
          THEY STILL ENDED UP WITH A VERY CHUNKY FRAME WHERE IT CONNECTS TO THE BUILDING ITSELF. 
          AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF JUST THE NATURE OF HOW STEEL WINDOWS WERE CONSTRUCTED, ESPECIALLY IN A MASONRY BUILDING WHERE THE FRAME IS ACTUALLY EMBEDDED INTO THE MASONRY WALLS OF THE BUILDING. 
          AND I KNOW THAT'S MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE ACT OF REMOVING THE STEEL CASEMENT WINDOWS THEMSELVES, IF PARTS OF THE FRAME ARE EMBEDDED IN THE MASONRY, IT CAN END UP DOING MORE DAMAGE TO THE BUILDING ITSELF THAN SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, REMOVING A WOODWIND WOULD DO AN A IN A HOUSE BUILT WITH THAT. 
          SO THAT'S, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE POINTS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS MADE ARE EXCELLENT. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT BIT OF INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          SURE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          UM, THIS IS THE ARCHITECT AGAIN. 
          UH, I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS AND I THINK JUST AS AN OVERALL POINT, I THINK FROM THE HOMEOWNER'S PERSPECTIVE, IF MAINTAINING THESE WINDOWS ORIGINAL, UH, WINDOWS FACING THE STREET IS THE ULTIMATE DECISION. 
          THAT WOULD BE MUCH PREFERABLE THAN POSTPONING, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE ADDITION PROJECT, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO TRY TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO IMPROVE AGAIN, OVERALL ENERGY EFFICIENCY OF THE HOME AND TRY TO BRING EVERYTHING UP TO DATE AS BEST WE CAN AND WITH AS MUCH INTEGRITY AS WE CAN. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES, SO TO SPEAK. 
          SO, UH, IF THAT ENDS UP BEING THE DECISION, I THINK WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THAT. 
          OH, WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, 
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UH, THE LAST COMMENT FROM THE OWNER, I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN NECESSARILY NECESSARILY DIVORCE THAT SECTION OF THE APPLICATION TO POSTPONE THAT PORTION. 
          AND THE ADDITION, I JUST, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A CONSCIENTIOUS OWNER AND A CONSCIENTIOUS ARCHITECT HERE, AND, UH, I'M, I'M GOING TO STICK WITH MY, UNLESS SOMEONE CAN ENCOURAGE ME, UH, CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE, UH, STICK WITH THE FULL APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT. 
          BECAUSE AGAIN, I DO SEE SENSITIVITY TO THE ADDITION AND RESPECT FOR THE BUILDING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I WOULD LOOK STRONGLY AT, AT INSERTS, UH, JUST BASICALLY A VERY, UH, LIGHT FRAME ON THE INTERIOR, UH, OF THE OPENING THAT ADDS A SECOND LAYER OF, OF GLASS OR ACRYLIC ON THE INTERIOR. 
          UH, THESE ARE JUST GONNA BE REALLY HARD TO REPRODUCE. 
          AND AS COMMISSIONER WRIGHT MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, MAY BE A PROBLEM WHEN YOU START REMOVING THEM AT ALL, BUT JUST THE LOOK OF THE, THE, THE CASEMENTS ON THE LOWER AND THE FIXED ON THE UPPER AND THE, THE OPERATING HARDWARE. 
          AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST SO KEY AND FUNDAMENTAL TO THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE HOUSE THAT I JUST, I, I BEG OF YOU TO RECONSIDER THAT PORTION, BUT, UM, WE'LL STICK WITH MY MOTION AS STATED, UM, COMMISSIONER HUNZA COMMISSIONER COOK BASED ON WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE? AND THIS WOULD PERHAPS BE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO KEEP THE WORDING AS YOU HAVE, EXCEPT FOR THE ULTIMATE RELEASE WILL BE PENDING A REVIEW BY STAFF OF THE PROPOSED WINDOWS, EITHER WINDOW IMPROVEMENT AND OR REPLACEMENT. 
          AND THAT WAY WE STILL HAVE THAT REVIEW THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, NOT ONLY ENCOURAGED, BUT THAT, THAT PROFESSIONAL REVIEW, UM, IS PART IN FACT OF WHAT, WHAT TRIGGERS THE FULL RELEASE. 
          THAT SOUNDS GREAT. 
          I ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT AND SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD, A GOOD OPTION COMMISSIONER, A LITTLE. 
          DO YOU ACCEPT THAT A AMENDMENT TO YOUR SECOND AND BEING COMMISSIONER WRIGHT WAS THE SECONDARY. 
          YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          ALL YOU YOUNG PEOPLE LOOK ALIKE TO ME. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER WHITE. 
          DO YOU ACCEPT THAT? OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SHE'S NODDING HER HEAD. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IT HAS BEEN AMENDED OF ANT BY THE MOTION MAKER AND THE SECONDARY. 
          UM, THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH, UH, UH, STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANTS, UH, ON THE FINAL, UM, IMPROVEMENT OR REPLACEMENT OF THE WINDOWS. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? ISH. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. 
          THAT PASSES, UM, PLEASE, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT THEN, UH, PLEASE, UH, DISCUSS THE WINDOW WITH THE STAFF ON THAT THEY HAVE, UM, THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING ON TO C 10, 9 0 2 SPENCE STREET. 
          FIRST, COULD WE GET COMMISSIONER LAROSA'S BOAT RECORDED PLEASE? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          COMMISSIONER LAROCHE. 
          UH, CAN YOU, UM, PLEASE SAY COMMISSIONER LAROCHE IS IN FAVOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS IS 
          [3.C.10. HR-2021-083636 – 902 Spence St. – Discussion Willow-Spence National Register District Council District 3 Proposal: Construct 2-story addition. Applicant: Art Ramirez City Staff: Steve Sadowsky, Historic Preservation Office, 512-974-6454 Staff Recommendation: Strongly recommend that the applicant use a more traditional siding material on the addition as the proposed vertical metal panels are incongruous with the character of the district and violate the design standards; further recommend that the applicant consider installing additional windows in the front elevation of the addition to avoid a blank wall; and consider attaching the addition to the house via a breezeway or other connector to avoid the removal of historic fabric, but release the permit upon completion of a City of Austin Documentation Package.]
PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT A TWO-STORY ADDITION STAFF STRONGLY RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT USED THE MORE TRADITIONAL CITING MATERIAL ON THE EDITION AS THE PROPOSED VERTICAL METAL PANELS ARE IN CONGRESS FOR THE CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT AND VIOLATE THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE RECOMMEND THAT THE APPLICANT CONSIDER INSTALLING ADDITIONAL WINDOWS IN THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE ADDITION TO AVOID A BLANK WALL AND CONSIDER ATTACHING THE ADDITION TO THE HOUSE THROUGH A BREEZEWAY OR OTHER CONNECTOR TO AVOID THE REMOVAL OF HISTORIC FABRIC. 
          SO THAT IS YES, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          UH, COMMISSIONER STEVE TODAY ASKING, UH, THIS HAS CONTRIBUTED THIS HOUSE IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE WILLIS BEDS HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          AND THIS ADDITION IS ACTUALLY VERY WELL-DESIGNED, UH, IT'S PROPORTIONATELY. 
          NICE. 
          IT'S GOT A SIMILAR ROOF DESIGN. 
          UH, THE APPLICANT THIS AFTERNOON TOLD ME THAT, UH, THEY WILL CONSIDER ADDITIONAL WINDOWS IN THAT FRONT WALL. 
          UH, SO THE ISSUE REALLY HERE IS THE USE OF THESE, UH, OF A, UH, PANEL, WHICH IS A NEW MATERIAL IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          AND THIS IS A NATIONAL REGISTERED 
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DISTRICT. 
          SO YOUR REVIEW IS ADVISORY, BUT, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO TAKE A LOOK AT. 
          WE MAY BE SEEING THESE MORE AND MORE, AND, UH, THE COMMISSION SHOULD HAVE A POSITION ON WHETHER THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE MATERIAL OR ADDITIONS TO CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MR. SEDOWSKY AND WELCOME BACK TO THE COMMISSION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS CASE SO THAT WE CAN START DISCUSSION? OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER HAIM, SETH, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR, UM, APPROVAL, BUT WITH THE REQUIREMENT FOR A CHANGE OF THE, UM, TRADITIONAL, UH, CITING, UH, TO USE, UH, SOMETHING MORE COMPATIBLE WITH TRADITIONAL SIGNAGE COMMISSIONER COOK, ARE YOU SECONDING A SENTENCE PEACE SIGN? AND THAT WAS THE SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAIM, SOUTH AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COOK TO APPROVE, UM, TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. 
          TELL ME THE EXACT WORDING COMMISSIONER SETS. 
          WELL, IT WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE ADDITION, BUT WITH THE REQUIREMENT THAT THERE BE A, UM, BASICALLY A, A MORE COMPATIBLE, UH, CITING MATERIAL THAT WAS IN KEEPING WITH SOME OF THE TRADITIONAL CITING WITHIN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WITH THAT, WITH THAT AS A, UH, START TO DISCUSSION, I, I I'M SUPPOSING FROM YOUR MOTION AND COMMISSIONER COOK SECOND, THAT YOU DON'T THINK THIS AN APPROPRIATE MATERIAL FOR THE HISTORIC DISTRICT. 
          AM I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT METAL VERTICAL SIGHTING, UM, IS, IS NOT APPROPRIATE, UM, FOR AN ADDITION THAT WILL BE HIGHLY VISIBLE AND DETRACT FROM THE CHARACTER OF THE DISTRICT. 
          UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ANY COMMENTS? YES. 
          COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA. 
          I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT, UH, THE FIRST FLOOR OF THAT ADDITION, UM, IS NOTED AS A SMOOTH STUCCO FINISH. 
          SO I GUESS I JUST WONDERED IF THAT, UM, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THE ENTIRE ADDITION OR A WOOD SIDING FOR ALL OF IT. 
          IT'S MORE A QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK THE CONCERN HAD TO DO WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF THE METAL. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO SAY IN A DISTRICT SUCH AS THIS, WHERE YOU REALLY HAVE FAIRLY MODEST HOMES, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THOSE VERY SIMPLE MOVES THAT CARRY A LOT OF WEIGHT. 
          UM, I, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THESE BLOCKS AND WHETHER THE STUCCO IS ALSO PART OF THE TRADITION HERE, BUT I DO THINK IT IS THE METAL, BUT, UM, THAT I'M RESPONDING TO, AND I UNDERSTAND HIS STAFF'S CONCERN, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COMMENTS, HEARING NONE. 
          UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. 
          PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND COMMISSIONER LAROCHE. 
          WOULD YOU INDICATE IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OR OPPOSED, WOULD YOU TALK TO US COMMISSIONER LAROCHE? IS THERE, IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED TO THE MOTION? OKAY. 
          UM, THE MOTION CARRIES WITH THE MEMBERS. 
          UM, OH, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE. 
          THERE HE IS. 
          ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION IS GIVING US THUMBS UP. 
          YES, HE'S IN FAVOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THE MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          THE NEXT ITEM IS 
          [3.C.11. HR-2021-082850 – 1415 W. 10th St. – Discussion West Line National Register District Council District 9 Proposal: Demolish contributing building and construct new building. Applicant: Ed Richardson City Staff: Kalan Contreras, Historic Preservation Office, 512-974-2727 Staff Recommendation: Consider referral to the Architectural Review Committee, then comment on and release the plans.]
14, 15 WEST 10TH STREET IN THE WESTLINE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONSIDER REFERRAL TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE FROM THE CHALLEN. 
          UH, NOPE. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          WELL, COMMISSIONERS, UM, THIS ITEM IS FOR 14, 15 WEST 10TH STREET, UM, TO DEMOLISH A 1939 NON-CONTRIBUTING SECONDARY APARTMENT AND CONSTRUCT A NEW BUILDING, A CABANA AND A GARAGE AND IT'S PLACE. 
          UM, LET'S SEE, FIRST THIS 1939 NON-CONTRIBUTING GARAGE 
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APARTMENT IS TO BE DEMOLISHED AND A NEW PRIMARY BUILDING WILL BE, UH, CONSTRUCTED. 
          I HAVE A COUPLE OF CORRECTIONS FROM THE ARCHITECTS. 
          UH, THE PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTION IS, UH, TWO STORIES AND AN ATTIC INSTEAD OF TWO AND A HALF STORIES IN HEIGHTS. 
          UM, IT'S SET BACK APPROXIMATELY 130 FEET FROM WEST 10TH STREET ACROSS, UH, TOP THE RELATIVE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING GARAGE APARTMENT BUILDING. 
          UM, IT'S CLAD IN A DECK TONE BRAND PREFABRICATED MASONRY COMPOSITE PANELING SYSTEM. 
          UM, AND IT FEATURES GLASS HANDRAIL PAINTED STEEL ACCENTS OCCURRED SECONDARY FACADE TOWARDS THE REAR AND SINGLE SIX PANE WINDOWS WITH REGULAR PLACEMENT AND DIMENSIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMPOUND ROOF LINE FEATURES MULTIPLE MATERIALS AND PITCHES, INCLUDING SHALLOW HITS, METAL, FLAT ROOF, AND FLAT WITH GREEN ROOFING. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A, UH, NOT A TWO STORY GARAGE, A TWO STORY GARAGE WITH A STUDIO ABOVE THE GARAGE IS ATTACHED TO THE MAIN BUILDING BY AN ENCLOSED GLASS WALKWAY AT THE SECOND FLOOR. 
          AND IT SET BACK APPROXIMATELY 100 FEET FROM WEST 10TH STREET, UH, IT'S CLOUD AND PREFABRICATED AND MASONRY COMPOSITE PANELS, LIKE THE MAIN HOUSE AND IT'S CITED IN FRONT OF THE MAIN RESIDENCE. 
          AND THE LAST PART OF THIS PROJECT IS TO CONSTRUCT A ONE-STORY CABANA AT THE REAR OF THE LOT. 
          UH, IT'S ALSO CLOUD IN PREFABRICATED MASONRY COMPOSITE PANELS AND CITED BEHIND THE MAIN RESIDENCE. 
          LET'S SEE THE DEMOLITION OF THAT PRIMARY BUILDING ON THE LOT, UH, WHICH SAT IN FRONT OF THE, UH, GARAGE APARTMENT THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR PACKET. 
          I WAS APPROVED IN 2011. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THE SECONDARY BUILDING IS NON-CONTRIBUTING TO THE WESTLINE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. 
          UM, SO, UH, IF THE COMMISSION FEELS THAT THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO ALTER THE STREETSCAPE ALONG THE WEST 10TH SIDE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS A REFERRAL TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND OTHERWISE COMMENT ON AND RELEASE THE PLANS, ENCOURAGING THE APPLICANT TO RELOCATE THE GARAGE TO THE REAR OF THE MAIN BUILDINGS, OMIT THE PAINTED STEEL ACCENTS AND REDUCE THE ROOF LINES COMPLEXITY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. . 
          UM, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO REFER THIS APPLICATION TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE COMMISSIONER, RIGHT MOVES. 
          SOME OF DO I HEAR A SECOND, SECOND EMOTION? OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A SECOND FROM WHAT, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON, ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS TO CLARIFY THAT SAME MOTION TO REFER TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND POSTPONE CONSIDERATION OF THE CASE TO THE JULY 26 HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE MAKER AND THE SECONDER AGREE, UM, THAT WE'LL REFER THIS TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND POSTPONE DISCUSSION ON THE CASE UNTIL THE JULY 26TH MEETING. 
          I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. 
          UM, I, I WROTE THE WESTLINE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. 
          THIS IS PRIMARILY A, UH, LATE 19TH CENTURY, EARLY 20TH CENTURY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, AND, AND THIS, UH, DESIGN IS QUITE A DEPARTURE AND, AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE, UM, WITH THE APPLICANTS AND, AND, UH, DISCUSS HOW IT MIGHT FIT INTO THE CHARACTER OF THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BETTER. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. 
          WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY. 
          COMMISSIONER LAROCHE IS ON, UH, ON THE SCREEN TOO, SO IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          OKAY. 
          OUR NEXT ITEM IS, UM, IS THIS CORRECT? 2305 RIO GRANDE DEMOLISH A CIRCUIT 1921 HOUSE. 
          SO COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS 
          [3.D.2. PR-2021-064110 – 2305 Rio Grande St. – Consent Council District 9 Proposal: Demolish a ca. 1921 house. Applicant: Mike McHone City Staff: Steve Sadowsky, Historic Preservation Office, 512-974-6454 Staff Recommendation Encourage rehabilitation and relocation over demolition, but release the permit upon completion of a City of Austin Documentation Package.]
A 1921 HOUSE IN WEST CAMPUS THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR DEMOLITION. 
          UH, I, I LISTENED TO THE SPEAKER, UH, EARLIER THIS EVENING AND I AM SYMPATHETIC TO HER. 
          UH, BUT, UH, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FACE FACTS THAT THESE AREAS OF WEST CAMPUS ARE, UH, NO LONGER ECONOMICALLY VIABLE FOR EITHER SINGLE FAMILY OR EVEN MULTI-DOSE SMALL MONCLER 
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FAMILY, UH, BUILDINGS, THIS, UH, AND, AND WHAT THIS COMMISSION NEEDS TO FOCUS ON IS WHETHER THESE HOUSES CONSTITUTE OR CAN QUALIFY AS HISTORICAL LANDMARKS OR WHETHER THERE'S A POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT INCLUDES THESE, THAT WOULD HELP PROTECT THEM AND PRESERVE THE CHARACTER, THE OLD CHARACTER, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THIS IS A 1921 HOUSE THAT WAS THE HOME OF FRED AND NELLIE KINGDOM WHO LIVED HERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS. 
          MR. WAS A CAR SALESMAN FOR COVERT. 
          UH, BUT APPARENTLY HIS FIRST LOVE WAS BEING THE MANAGER OF ISAAC BLEDSOE'S PIANO ORGAN STORE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE LISTED ON HIS DEATH CERTIFICATE AS HIS OCCUPATION. 
          UH, HIS FIRST WIFE NOW DIED IN 1940. 
          HIS SECOND WIFE WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS STAFF EVALUATED THIS HOUSE, UH, AT, TO QUALIFY AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK DID NOT FIND THAT IT HAD ANY ARCHITECTURAL OR HISTORY OR HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. 
          SO RECOMMENDS THAT THE PERMIT BE RELEASED, UH, UPON, WELL FIRST ENCOURAGING REHABILITATION OR RELOCATION, BUT RELEASING THE PERMIT UPON THE CITY OF BOSTON DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. . 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, AND I GUESS THIS WAS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE THERE WAS OPPOSITION TO THE DEMOLITION. 
          OKAY. 
          DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE COMMISSIONER? HI, SETH. 
          UH, I'LL, I'LL MOVE RELEASING OF THE PERMIT AND I HAVE A PARTICULAR COMMENT, UH, TO MAKE ABOUT, ABOUT THAT, BUT LET'S SEE IF THERE'S A SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION TO RELEASE THE PERMIT AND IT WOULD BE UPON THE RELEASE OF THE COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE? UH, YES. 
          COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, UH, SECONDED THE MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          COMMISSIONER MINDSETS. 
          WHAT WAS YOUR, UM, WHAT DID YOU WANT TO SAY ON IT? I THINK IT IS ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE FOR US TO BE AWARE OF THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS THAT ADD EXTRA PRESSURE WHEN PRESERVATION IS A CONSIDERATION. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT THAT CAN BE A MAJOR FACTOR IN OUR DECISION MAKING, OTHER THAN KNOWING THAT IT EXISTS, THE MORE WE CAN DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO BOLSTER AND REINFORCE, UH, POSITIVE ECONOMIC OUTCOMES. 
          UH, THAT MAY MEAN AN ADDITION THAT MAY MEAN SOME LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY WITH OTHER KINDS OF MODIFICATIONS TO THE STRUCTURE SO THAT ITS INTEGRITY CAN BE PRESERVED. 
          I THINK THAT IS OUR CHARGE. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR US TO SAY THAT BECAUSE IT IS TOO EXPENSIVE AND LAND'S TOO VALUABLE THAT SOMEHOW, UH, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT MR SADECKI WAS SAYING, BUT I REALLY WANT TO JUST DRAW THE LINE AND SAY THAT IS EMPHATICALLY, NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD FACTOR INTO, UH, OUR CONSIDER OR SHOULD FACTOR INTO OUR CONSIDERATION. 
          AND WE'VE HAD FOLKS SAY, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO RESTORE THIS HOUSE. 
          IT'S JUST NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE. 
          AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A REASONABLE COMMENT, BUT IF IT IS, UH, IF IT IS A HISTORIC INTEGRITY, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD CHANGE MY CONSIDERATION OF WHETHER IT SHOULD BE WORTHY OF SOME OF THESE PROTECTIONS. 
          I, I THINK IT WAS CLEARLY STATED BY THE APPLICANT THAT THAT WAS THE, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS NOT VIABLE BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE VALUE OF THE LAND IN THE AREA. 
          UM, UM, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY, UM, THOUGH, I'M JUST SEEING THIS AS A, THIS IS THE OUTCOME. 
          I'M NOT, I DO NOT WANT TO BASE THAT AS THE ARGUMENT, UH, DISAGREE WITH THAT EMPHATICALLY. 
          I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU WITH YOUR POINT, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, FEATHERSTON. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I THINK I'M THE AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HEIM STAFF THAT SORT OF CAVEAT, UM, THAT WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS ECONOMIC VIABILITY, I THINK THAT ME PERSONALLY, AND I THINK I SPEAK FOR THE COMMISSION THAT, UM, UH, THE, UH, THE HOMEOWNER, THE DEVELOPERS PROFORMA IS NOT A CONCERN OF OURS. 
          WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE, THE MERITS OF THE CASE AS IT RELATES TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION. 
          BUT I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD USE THE TERMS, ECONOMIC VIABILITY AND LOOK AT THE BROADER PICTURE OF COMMUNITY VALUE. 
          AND WE, UH, I THINK, UH, CHAIRWOMAN, YOU, YOU, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE'S A CASE WHERE WE'RE LOSING AN AFFORDABLE UNIT, BUT IN AGGREGATE WE'RE, WE'RE PROBABLY GAINING MANY MORE AND JUST LIKE THE ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF LIKE OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS HOUSING UNITS TO SUCH A DESPERATE DEGREE, IT'S HARD TO MEASURE, UM, WHAT THAT MEANS TO CREATE MORE HOUSING 
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THAT MAY NOT BE, UM, MARKET RATE AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S ONE YEAR OLD, BUT WE'RE INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY DOWN THE ROAD AND WE NEED THAT HOUSING. 
          I JUST WANTED TO BROADEN THE SCOPE OF WHAT ECONOMIC VIABILITY MIGHT MEAN AND CARVE OUT THE FACT THAT THE HOMEOWNERS PROFORMA, NOT A CONCERN, BUT THERE'S A BROADER CONTEXT. 
          WE, UM, WE HAVE ALSO HAD A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS TO MOVE OR, UM, CARVE UP LOTS WHERE THE PROPERTY, WHERE THE, WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL HOUSE, UH, SOMETIMES A LANDMARK, A DESIGNATED LANDMARK, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT MAKES THE POINT THAT IT'S NOT VIABLE. 
          IT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE THAT THEY NEED TO DO THESE OTHER THINGS. 
          AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE PART OF OUR CONSIDERATION, UM, WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE A PROFIT, YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER ON THEIR NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          BUT THIS, WE NEED TO LOOK AT, UH, PROTECTING PRESERVING AND PROMOTING HISTORIC PRESERVATION. 
          AND THESE WERE, UM, SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS REALLY ARE, UH, VERY SIGNIFICANT, UM, ARCHITECTURALLY AND, AND HISTORICALLY I THINK THIS PARTICULAR TACE, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THAT'S NOT REALLY THE CASE AS THE, AS MR. SEDOWSKY, UM, RELAYED TO US, UM, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE. 
          I, NO, I UNDERSTAND THE PARTICULARS OF THIS CASE, BUT I THINK, UH, I APPLAUD MR. HIGHSMITH'S COMMENTS AND IS A GOOD REMINDER TO ALL OF US THAT THAT SHOULD BE FOREMOST IN OUR DECISION PROCESS. 
          UM, IF THERE ARE NO, UM, FOR THEIR COMMENTS OR, UH, DISCUSSION, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. 
          PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. 
          THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA 
          [3.D.4. PR-2021-061472 – 2903 Breeze Ter. – Discussion Council District 9 Proposal: Demolish a ca. 1946 house and ca. 1951 accessory dwelling unit and carport. Applicant: Manuel Puyana City Staff: Elizabeth Brummett, Historic Preservation Office, 512-974-1264 Staff Recommendation: Consider initiation of historic zoning. Should the Commission choose to release the demolition permit, encourage rehabilitation or relocation, then require completion of a City of Austin Documentation Package prior to permit issuance.]
FOR DISCUSSION IS 29 0 3 BREATHS TERRACE. 
          THIS IS A REQUEST TO DEMOLISH A CIRCA 1946 HOUSE AND A CIRCUIT 1951 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND CARPORT ON THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, THE HOUSE IS A ONE-STORY MINIMAL TRADITIONAL HOUSE WITH US AS BEST AS SIDING AND A HIPPED ROOF. 
          UH, THE APARTMENT HAS VERTICAL GROOVE SIDING AND AN INTEGRAL CARPORT. 
          THE HOUSE, UH, WAS OWNED, UH, DURING THE HISTORIC PERIOD BY HUBERT S AND MARY KAY WALL FROM THE LATE 1940S THROUGH 1971 OR A LATER MARY KATE WALL WAS AN ATTORNEY. 
          AND UNTIL HER RETIREMENT IN 1970, SHE WAS THE STATE'S LEADING AUTHORITY ON ELECTION LAW. 
          UH, SHE WAS LICENSED TO PRACTICE LAW BEGINNING IN 1934 AND BEGINNING IN 1950 FOR 17 YEARS. 
          SHE WORKED AS AN ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHERE SHE WAS AN ELECTIONS EXPERT AND WROTE THE STATE'S FIRST MODERN ELECTION CODE. 
          UH, SHE LATER WORKED AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE AND HEADED THEIR ELECTIONS TO A DIVISION. 
          DR. 
          HUBERT STANLEY WALL WAS A PROFESSOR OF MATHEMATICS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, BEGINNING OF 1946. 
          UH, HIS AREA OF FOCUS WAS CONTINUED FRACTIONS, WHICH HAVE BEEN STUDIED SINCE EUCLID AND ARE WRITTEN AS FRACTIONS WITH INFRACTIONS. 
          HIS BOOK, THE ANALYTIC THEORY OF CONTINUED FRACTIONS IS CONSIDERED A STANDARD REFERENCE IN THIS FIELD. 
          HE WAS ALSO KNOWN FOR A TEACHING METHOD WHERE HE SOUGHT TO DEVELOP THE CREATIVE CAPACITY OF STUDENTS, UH, TO PROVIDE PROOFS FOR COMPLEX MATHEMATICAL THEOREMS. THE BACK APARTMENT DURING THE HISTORIC PERIOD WAS OCCUPIED BY MARY KAY WALL'S MOTHER RESOLUTE PARKER. 
          THE, UH, THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS WHETHER THIS WOULD QUALIFY FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION. 
          I CERTAINLY BELIEVE A CASE COULD BE MADE FOR THE HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS, UM, FOR THE ASSOCIATION WITH THE STATE'S FOREMOST ELECTION LAW AUTHORITY THROUGH THE MID 20TH CENTURY AND AN INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN MATHEMATICS PROFESSOR. 
          UH, HOWEVER, THIS IS A VERY MODEST HOUSE. 
          IT'S A TYPICAL EXAMPLE OF THE MINIMAL TRADITIONAL STYLE. 
          UH, BUT THERE REALLY AREN'T ANY CHARACTERISTICS THAT SET IT APART AS, UM, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE STYLE, FOR INSTANCE. 
          UM, SO I WOULD TURN THAT QUESTION OVER TO THE COMMISSION AS TO WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THIS CASE HAS ANY MERIT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. RAMIT COMMISSIONERS. 
          THIS IS, THIS APPEARS TO 
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BE A CASE WHERE WE OFTEN HAVE, UM, PROPERTIES THAT APPEAR TO BE SIGNIFICANT FOR ARCHITECTURE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE STRONG HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS. 
          UH, IN THIS INSTANCE, WE HAVE A MODEST, MINIMAL TRADITIONAL HOUSE WITH, UM, THAT IS HISTORICALLY LINKED TO, UM, TWO VERY, UH, INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE IN THEIR RESPECTIVE FIELDS. 
          UM, SO WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE COMMISSIONER COOK? I'LL MOVE TO RELEASE A DEMOLITION PERMIT PENDING THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, SECOND, SOME MOTION, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION CONDITIONS. 
          I KIND OF BIT THE BULLET ON THIS ONE, CAUSE THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND I FEEL AS STRONGLY, IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO VISIT THE CHERRYWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT'S HIGHLY INTACT AND MOST PROPERTY OWNERS ARE ADDING ON PROPERLY WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. 
          THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ADDING ONTO THEIR HOMES IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT THERE'S, THERE'S SO MUCH INTEGRITY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M ENCOURAGING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND NEIGHBORHOODS TO REALLY EXPLORE, UH, LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT STATUS BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S SUCH A TREASURE, BUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, I DON'T THINK EITHER THE ARCHITECTURE OR THE ASSOCIATION WOULD HOLD UP TO A CHALLENGE AGAINST THE OWNER'S WISHES. 
          UM, AND I DON'T WANT TO, UH, CAUSE BAD BLOOD ABOUT AT ALL. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I MADE THE MOTION. 
          WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO, UM, THE DANGERS OF ASBESTOS CITING COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON IS  SHAKING HIS HEAD? NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT MANY HOUSES AND, UH, MANY HOUSES IN THE CHERRYWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND ACROSS CENTRAL AUSTIN ARE SITED WITH ASBESTOS SHINGLES AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT DANGEROUS AND UNLESS YOU BREAK THEM OFF AND BREED THE FIBERS. 
          UM, SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO THROW THAT IN THERE THAT THIS IS NOT AN IMMINENT DANGER TO, UM, TO ANYONE'S HEALTH, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY BEAR ON THE, ON THE APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH IT, UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION, UH, PERMIT, BUT REQUIRE, UH, THE COMPLETION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKET, UH, TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL FACADES, BOTH OF THE MAIN HOUSE AND THE, UH, ACCESSORY UNIT AND DRAFTING A NARRATIVE HISTORY OF THE HOUSE AND ITS OWNERS FOR ARCHIVING. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          ANYONE OPPOSE IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE 
          [3.D.6. PR-2021-076165 – 2007 Willow St. – Discussion Council District 3 Proposal: Demolish a ca. 1912 house. Applicant: Travis Young City Staff: Elizabeth Brummett, Historic Preservation Office, 512-974-1264 Staff Recommendation: Encourage rehabilitation and adaptive re-use, then relocation over demolition, but release the permit upon completion of a City of Austin Documentation Package.]
MOVE ON TO 2007 WILLOW STREET. 
          IT'S A, UH, APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH A CIRCUIT IN 1912 HOUSE. 
          YES, THIS ISN'T. 
          OH, GO AHEAD. 
          UH, THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH, UH, AS, UH, CHAIR MYERS JUST SAID A CIRCA 19 12TH HOUSE. 
          IT'S A ONE-STORY NATIONAL FULL HOUSE WITH A HIPPED ROOF, A FULL-WIDTH INTEGRAL PORCH WITH DOOR COLUMNS AND, UM, SOME MODIFICATIONS, INCLUDING A PICTURE WINDOW ON THE FRONT FACADE. 
          THIS PROPERTY WAS LISTED AS NON-CONTRIBUTING TO THE RECOMMENDED SOUTHEAST AUSTIN HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THE 2016 EAST AUSTIN HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY STAFF DISAGREES THAT THE MODIFICATIONS ARE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO RENDER THE HOUSE NON-CONTRIBUTING. 
          UM, BUT STILL DOES NOT FEEL THIS RISES TO THE OCCASION OF BECOMING A HISTORIC LANDMARK. 
          THE HOUSE WAS OCCUPIED INITIALLY BY A SUCCESSION OF RENTERS, UH, BEGINNING IN 1922, THE OCCUPANTS WERE EDWARD B AND EMMA HARRIS AND THEIR DAUGHTER, AND SON-IN-LAW OLA AND CHARLES H CHILDRESS THROUGH THE 1920S, EDWARD AND EMMA, BOTH WORKED AT CLERKS AS CLERKS AT VARIOUS ESTABLISHMENTS. 
          AND CHARLES WAS A FIREFIGHTER BY 1932, EDWARD FOUNDED A GROCERY STORE ON EAST SIXTH STREET, UH, WHERE OLAF, THE DAUGHTER WORKED AS A CLERK IN 1935, CHARLES THE SON-IN-LAW'S LIST AS A PARTNER AND THE GROCERY, BUT THE V BUSINESS VENTURE WAS SHORT-LIVED DUE TO EDWARD'S DEATH. 
          EMMA, THE MOTHER CONTINUED TO LIVE IN THE HOUSE UNTIL HER DEATH IN 1939 AND, UH, TROLLS AND ALLAH, THE CHILDREN OWN THE HOUSE THROUGH 1952. 
          UM, CHARLES WORKED IN A VARIETY OF VENTURES DURING THAT TIME. 
          OLA WAS ACTIVE IN THE METS ELEMENTARY PTA AND TAUGHT PIANO AND THE HOME, UH, AFTER THEIR OCCUPANCY, THE HOME WAS OCCUPIED BY A SERIES OF RENTERS. 
          UH, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ENCOURAGE REHABILITATION AND RELOCATION 
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OVER DEMOLITION, BUT ULTIMATELY TO RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. 
          THANK YOU, MISS FROM IT. 
          DO I, UM, HAVE A MOTION ON THIS CASE, COMMISSIONER COOK, I'LL MOVE TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PACKAGE PENDING THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, RESIDENT DEFINITION, PERMIT PENDING AND CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKET. 
          SORRY, IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          DO I HEAR A SECOND TO HIS MOTION TO MS. SHARON A. LITTLE SECOND, THE MOTION COMMISSIONER COOK AGAIN, IT PAID ME TO DO SO, BUT, UM, IN PARTICULAR WITH THE 2016 SURVEY, NOT NOTING IT AS POTENTIAL LANDMARK, I WOULD FEEL REALLY STRONG OVERRIDING THAT, UH, AGAINST OWNER'S WISHES. 
          UH, IT SEEMS LIKE A, LIKE A POOR CASE, BUT, UH, WITH, I APPRECIATE ALL THE TESTIMONY HERE FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND, AND I FEEL YOUR PAIN. 
          AND AGAIN, WHEN THAT PITCH FOR LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARTICULAR, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DISTRICTS IDENTIFIED IN THE SURVEY. 
          YOU HAD THE SURVEY SURVEY MATERIAL, WE HAVE THE DESIGN STAMPS CITYWIDE DESIGN STANDARDS DONE. 
          SO REALLY THE ONLY THING REQUIRED TO DO IS, UH, GET THE SIGNATURES, UH, IN FAVOR OF THE DISTRICT, UH, FOR ANY ONE CITY BLOCK OR A PREFERENCE WITH ONE BLOCK FACE OR PREFERABLY MORE. 
          BUT A LOT OF THE WORK HAS DONE. 
          UH, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING, GETTING CONSENSUS AND BUILDING INTEREST IN AND GETTING BUY-IN ON IT AT THIS POINT. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY THE BEST WAY TO SAY THESE THAT DON'T QUITE MEET THE BAR FOR INDIVIDUAL LANDMARKS ARE THESE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND, UM, THIS PARTICULAR, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS AREA HAS LOTS OF POTENTIALS AND IS AT SUCH HIGH PRESSURE THAT I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO CONTACT CITY STAFF FOR MORE INFORMATION. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS. 
          UM, MORE THAN ANY OTHER HOUSE UP FOR DEMOLITION ON THIS AGENDA. 
          THIS ONE BREAKS MY HEART. 
          UM, I, I REALLY FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE, FOR THE NEIGHBORS WHO WILL LOSE SOMETHING THAT THEY REALLY VALUE, THAT'S THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND, UM, THIS IS, UH, I, I DISAGREE WITH THE 2016 ASSESSMENT ON THIS HOUSE TOO. 
          I THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE A CONTRIBUTING, UH, BUILDING IN A, IN A POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF, UM, OF HISTORIC LANDMARK. 
          YES. 
          COMMISSIONER HOME, SETH, LET ME REINFORCE THAT SAME FRUSTRATION. 
          UM, WE HAVE SUCH LIMITED TOOLS AND THE OPPORTUNITY THAT COULD BE PROVIDED FOR A HOUSE OF THIS KIND, UH, WE'RE THERE TO BE AN INTACT HISTORIC DISTRICT, WOULD AT LEAST GIVE US MORE TO, UM, POSSIBLY PRESERVE THE HOUSE, CERTAINLY WORK WITH AN OWNER AND MORE IN A POSITIVE WAY THAN JUST A YES, NO. 
          UH, I KNOW THIS AREA VERY WELL. 
          MY WIFE TAUGHT AT, UH, METS ELEMENTARY FOR OVER 20 YEARS. 
          I KNOW THAT HOUSE AS A LANDMARK. 
          I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THE DEFINING HOUSES IN THE AREA. 
          UH, I ALSO WOULD CALL INTO QUESTION THAT IT'S NOT A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE BECAUSE OF ONE PICTURE KNOW, UH, IT IS OTHERWISE, UH, MAINTAINED QUITE A GOOD DEAL OF INTEGRITY FOR THAT LENGTH OF TIME. 
          UM, AND ALSO FOR AN AREA LIKE THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION AND IT OUGHT TO BE PRESERVED. 
          THERE'S THIS THERE'S A WAY WE COULD GET TO AN OWNER AND CONVINCE THEM OTHERWISE. 
          UH, WE OUGHT TO TRY AS MUCH AS HARD AS WE CAN. 
          UM, UH, EVEN IF IT'S JUST A PROTEST VOTE, I JUST CAN'T BRING MYSELF TO, UH, TO RELEASE A DEMOLITION PERMIT ON A, ON A HOUSE THAT HAS THIS MUCH POTENTIAL, BUT I HAVE TO ALSO SAY THE ALTERNATIVE, HAVING IT, UH, RISE TO A LEVEL OF A FULL LANDMARK DESIGNATION IS JUST ISN'T THERE. 
          SO BETWEEN THE TWO EXTREMES I'M QUITE TORN, I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION EITHER. 
          UM, THIS WOULD BE A HUGE LOSS TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE DOCUMENTATION BACK YET. 
          PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, ALL THOSE OPPOSED. 
          RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE HAVE FOUR OPPOSED TO MISSIONERS LAROCHE 
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CASTILLO FOR HIMSELF AND MEYERS. 
          THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE NEXT ITEM 
          [3.D.7. PR-2021-079768 – 1308 Alta Vista Ave. – Discussion Pending Travis Heights National Register District Council District 9 Proposal: Partially demolish and modify a ca. 1939 house. Applicant: Nate Rodland City Staff: Kalan Contreras, Historic Preservation Office, 512-974-2727 Staff Recommendation: Consider initiation of historic zoning. Should the Commission decide against initiation, release the new construction plans upon completion of a City of Austin Documentation Package.]
ON THE AGENDA, D 7, 13 0 8 ALTA VISTA. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO SAY AT THIS MOMENT, IT'S IN THE PENDING TRAVIS SITES, NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. 
          WHILE WE WERE HERE IN THIS MEETING, I GOT AN EMAIL FROM OUR REVIEWER AT THE THC THAT TRAVIS HEIGHTS HAS BEEN SENT TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. 
          YEAH, FINE LINE. 
          OH, UM, THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING. 
          WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE TWO. 
          WELL, WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS IN 2005 AND THEN GIVE BACK TO IT IN 2017. 
          SO IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. 
          ANYONE OUT THERE WHO'S LISTENING, UH, WHO WATCHES PUBLIC ACCESS TV FOR FUN, UM, FROM DRIVING SITES, UH, SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED STAFF. 
          THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO PARTIALLY DEMOLISHED AND MODIFY. 
          IT SAYS CIRCA 1939 HOUSE. 
          THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1936. 
          UH, IT WAS DESIGNED BY, UM, EDWIN CRISAL AND BUILT BY TOM JONES. 
          CAROLYN . 
          CAROLYN, ARE YOU THERE? IS THERE A STAFF PRESENTATION FOR US? AH, CALLAN SAYS THAT SHE'S TALKING DO NOT HEAR HER. 
          SO BEAR WITH US FOR A MOMENT. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          I FORGOT THE TECHNICAL ISSUE. 
          UM, ELIZABETH DID, UH, DID YOU RECEIVE THE PHOTO AND INFORMATION THAT I SENT EARLIER? HELLO COMMISSIONERS. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW. 
          OH, WONDERFUL. 
          UH, THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO MODIFY, UM, THIS BUILDING AT 1308 ALTA VISTA, UH, BY ALTERING THE ROOF TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF A ROOF DECK, ADDING WINDOWS AND DOORS, PREPARING SIGHTING AND CLOSING THE PORT TO SHARE. 
          UM, THIS BUILDING IS A TWO STORY COLONIAL WHERE BIBLE HOUSE CLOUD IN BRICK WITH WATERFALL MORTAR IT'S FULL WIDTH PORCH, UH, HAS A FLAT ROOF WITH A PROTRUDING PEDIMENT BOX COLUMN, A RECESSED ENTRYWAY WITH DECORATIVE PILOT TESTERS AND AN ARCHED PORT CO-SHARE. 
          UM, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN THERE, UH, THIS BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED AROUND 1935 OR 1936 BY ALDEN AND MABEL DAVIS OR FOUR ALDEAN ENABLED DAVIS. 
          UM, ALDEN DAVIS MANAGED THE AUDIT SUPPLY DIVISION AT THE WELTER TIPS COMPANY. 
          AND HE LATER BECAME THE VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY. 
          NAVEL DAVIS WAS A CIVIC LEADER WHO FOUNDED, LED AND PARTICIPATED IN NUMEROUS CHARITABLE AND EDUCATIONAL ENDEAVORS THROUGHOUT HER TIME IN THE HOME, IT WAS KNOWN FOR HER ENTHUSIASM FOR GARDENING AND ECOLOGY, AND DAVID'S HELPED TO FOUND AND MANAGE AUSTIN'S GARDEN CLUB CIRCUIT. 
          SHE SERVED AS CHAIRMAN OF THE STATE'S ROADSIDE BEAUTIFICATION COMMISSION. 
          SHE WAS A MEMBER OF AUSTIN PARKS BOARD, UM, AND SHE WAS A MEMBER OF OTHER RELATED CIVIC IMPROVEMENT ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT HER LIFETIME. 
          THE ZILKER PARK ROSE GARDEN, ALONG WITH MABEL DAVIS PARK, UH, ARE NAMED IN HER HONOR AND HER JOINT ROLE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOTANICAL GARDEN BUILDING COMMITTEE AND CHAIRMAN OF THE AUSTIN AREA GARDEN CENTER INCORPORATED. 
          DAVIS WORKS WITH ARCHITECTS WHO GO KUNE CUNY TO DISCUSS OR TO CONSTRUCT THE GARDEN CENTER BETWEEN 1954 AND 1956 DURING WORLD WAR II DAVIS LED RECRUITMENT EFFORTS FOR VOLUNTEER NURSES IN HER ROLE AS THE ORGANIZATION'S EXECUTIVE SECRETARY, ACCORDING TO THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT NOMINATION DAVIS ORGANIZED OVER 5,000 VOLUNTEERS DURING THE WAR AND ESTABLISHED A SURGICAL DRESSING UNIT AND THE DRISCOLL HOTEL. 
          IT WAS NAMED WOMAN OF THE YEAR BY THE TRAVIS COUNTY MEDICAL ASSOCIATION, AND AUSTIN'S MOST, MOST WORTHY CITIZEN BY THE AUSTIN BOARD OF REALTORS FOR HER SERVICE AND LEADERSHIP IN HEALTH ADVOCACY THROUGHOUT HER LIFE. 
          AS A PATRON OF THE ARTS DAVIS USED HER POSITION AS PRESIDENT OF THE TEXAS FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUBS TO ARRANGE EXHIBITS FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE FEDERATION MEMBERS WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE MUNICIPAL ART GUILD, UM, HER SUPPORT OF ART AND ARTISTS LED THE STATESMAN TO SELECT HER AS 1962, HIS OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTOR TO ART. 
          UM, SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION 
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FOR THIS PROJECT, UM, WHICH IS, UH, ON A HOUSE THAT AGAIN, CONTRIBUTES TO THE PENDING TRAVIS HEIGHTS AND NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, UM, IS TO EITHER CONSIDER INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING BASED ON ARCHITECTURE IN ASSOCIATION WITH MABEL DAVIS, UM, OR TO RELEASE THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS IS A PARTIAL DEMOLITION, UM, WITH MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDING COMMISSIONER I'M SET. 
          UM, I GUESS I, I SAW ENOUGH IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE NON HISTORIC ADDITIONS TO THE REAR AND WHAT CONDITIONS, UH, VARIAN THAT WOULD PROMPT SOME OF THE CONVERSATION FROM THE ARCHITECT. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THAT IN THE PRESENTATION? I DON'T HAVE MUCH EVIDENCE ON THE REAR OF THE BUILDING. 
          UM, I BELIEVE SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS HAPPENED WITHIN THE HISTORIC PERIOD AND SOME, UM, AFTER, BUT IF THE APPLICANT IS ON THE LINE, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO CLARIFY, UM, SOME OF THAT REAR ADDITION AND, UM, POTENTIALLY SOME OF THE WATER DAMAGE, UM, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER. 
          YES. 
          HELLO, THIS IS STEVEN WILLIAMS. I'M ON THE LINE. 
          GO AHEAD, MR. WILLIAMS. WELL, I MEAN, UM, SO THE, THE REAR ADDITION, UM, BY OUR BEST ESTIMATE WAS, UH, PROBABLY ON THE FIRST FLOOR BUILT IN 1980 AND IT HAD A PITCHED SHED ROOF OFF OF, UH, AN EXTENSION TO A LIVING AREA, UM, AROUND 1994, AGAIN, BASED ON OUR BEST ESTIMATES, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION TO SUPPORT THIS. 
          UM, BUT BASED ON THE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THEY HAD ADDED ANOTHER FLOOR ON TOP OF THAT ROOF. 
          UM, AND THE WAY THAT IT WAS SIDED INTO THE ORIGINAL ON-SITE FLASHED INTO THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND THEN RE SIDED AND CAUSED THE ACCUMULATION OF WATER ON THAT PLATE, UH, THAT WAS SUPPORTING THE FORMER, UH, ROOF LINE OF THE FIRST 1980S. 
          SO, UM, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, IT'S JUST, EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING. 
          DO YOU HAVE A ROOF PLAN? DO YOU HAVE A ROOF? WELL, YEAH, THERE SHOULD, THERE SHOULD BE A ROOF PLAN WITHIN THAT PERMIT DOCUMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOW WE'RE SEEING EXISTING, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T SEE YOUR SCREEN. 
          THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLAN. 
          THE SITE PLAN SEEMS TO BE, THAT CAN, EXCUSE ME, THE BEST I CAN DO FOR EXISTING CONDITIONS FOR THE ROOF AND THE AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN, BUT, UH, THE AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ENTIRELY THE REAR, INCLUDING THE SPIRAL STAIRCASE, AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD AN ADDITION. 
          YES. 
          AND WHERE, I GUESS I'M NOT CLEAR WHERE THE ROOF, SO, SO THAT WAS AN EXTENSION OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY A PITCHED ROOF TO THE REAR, IS THAT CORRECT? NOT NECESSARILY ORIGINALLY, BUT PART OF THE PREVIOUS REMODEL, UM, IT'S, IT'S HAD A LOT OF LAYERS, UM, THIS THING. 
          SO, UM, ON THE FIRST FLOOR, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THEY DID AN ADDITION, UH, THAT JUST EXTENDED A LIVING AREA AND CREATED A SMALL OFFICE SPACE. 
          AGAIN, I THINK IN THE 1980S, THEN IN 94, THEY JUST SIMPLY ADDED ABOVE THAT. 
          AND WHEN THEY DID THAT, THAT'S WHEN THEY ADDED THAT SECOND FLOOR, UH, EXTERIOR DECK AND THEN EXTENDED THE GABLE OUT OFF OF THE ORIGINAL TABLE, CREATED ANY INTERSECTING GABLE THAT COVERED THAT, UH, THAT EXTERIOR PATIO. 
          AND THEN THEY ADDED, UH, THE SPIRAL STAIR AND THEY ADDED THE FIREPLACE. 
          SO THAT, THAT BACK HALF OF THE HOUSE IS ALL ADDITION. 
          OKAY, WELL, OUTSIDE THE ORIGINAL EXTERIOR ENVELOPE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS, UH, IN REALLY, REALLY GOOD CONDITION, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS PRETTY OBVIOUS WHAT THE ADDITION WAS WHEN WE GOT INTO THE HOUSE. 
          OKAY. 
          AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST WORKING TO MITIGATE THAT OUR, OUR DEMOLITION IS, IS LIMITED TO THE DEMOLISHING, SOME OF THE DAMAGED WOODEN STRUCTURE AND REPLACING IT, AND THEN ELIMINATING THAT INTERSECTING GABLE AND THEN TURNING IT INTO A LOWER ROOF DECK OPTION AND ALL OF THAT IN THE REAR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF YOUR KUKULA, NONE OF THAT IMPACTING NONE OF THESE NEW, NEW EXTERIOR STRUCTURAL ELEMENTS IMPACTING THE VIEW FROM THE STREET, IS THAT CORRECT? ADDITIONAL COUPONS, CORRECT. 
          BUT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO INFILL THE PORT CO-SHARE RIGHT. 
          AND CHANGE AND CHANGE THE FRONT PORCH. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT CHANGING 
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THE FRONT PORCH. 
          THE FRONT PORCH IS TO REMAIN. 
          WE'RE JUST GOING TO REPAINT IT AND RESTORE ANY KIND OF DAMAGE. 
          WOULD THE PORT, A PORT CO-SHARE IS GOING TO GET THAT, UM, THE, UH, STEEL STOREFRONT, UH, INFILL AND THE PAIR OF DOORS ON THE FRONT PORCH, GOING TO THE FRENCH DOORS? I APOLOGIZE. 
          YES. 
          THE FRONT PORCH ITSELF WILL NOT BE MODIFIED, BUT THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL ACCESS FROM THE LIVING AREA TO THE FRONT PORCH. 
          AND WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY USING A PROPOSING A WOOD WINDOW WITH A DIVIDED LIGHT PATTERN, SIMILAR TO THE ADJACENT WINDOWS. 
          SO THEY BLEND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, YOU LIKELY WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE DOOR BECAUSE OF THE WOOD RAILING AT THE FRONT OF THE DECK. 
          AND THEN THAT THE FACT THAT THE HOUSE IS ELEVATED ABOUT SIX FEET FROM THE STREET. 
          SO EVEN WHEN YOU'RE ON THE STREET, YOU, ALL YOU SEE IS A LANDSCAPING. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MADAM CHAIR, LET ME, UH, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. 
          I THINK THAT THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHETHER THIS IS SYMPATHETIC AND COMPATIBLE AND FOR A PROPERTY THAT NOT ONLY OF COURSE WILL BE IMPORTANT TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUT PROBABLY ON ITS OWN MAY VERY WELL MERIT, HISTORIC ZONING. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO INITIATE THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE THE KIND OF INPUT BECAUSE, UH, THE ARCHITECT CLEARLY IS WELL AWARE OF THE INTEGRITY OF THE STRUCTURE, BUT I DO THINK THAT, UH, SOME OF THESE DETAILS WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO REFER THAT TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND WOULD MAKE THAT AS A RECOMMENDATION, UH, IF, UH, SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO SECOND MY MOTION. 
          OKAY. 
          I SEE A COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA HAD HER PEACE SIGN UP FIRST. 
          UM, SHE, SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THIS TO THE, UH, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. 
          WHAT'S YOUR MOTTO AND FAIL A POSTPONEMENT TO THIS JUNE, JULY THE JULY 26TH MEETING, UH, AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA. 
          I JUST WANT TO ADD A FEW THINGS ON THIS. 
          NOT ONLY IS THIS A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING IN THE, UM, IN THE NOW HAPPENING TRAVIS HEIGHTS, HISTORIC DISTRICT, IT WAS SELECTED AS TO REPRESENT THE DISTRICT. 
          UM, IT'S ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVE PROPERTIES AND WAS DETAILED. 
          UM, THE ARCHITECTURE, UM, WAS, UM, WAS DETAILED ON IT. 
          AND I THINK THIS, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AS WE EMBARK ON OUR NEW EQUITY BASED PRESERVATION PLAN TO, UM, TO RECOGNIZE ACHIEVEMENTS OF HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED, UM, COMMUNITIES, THIS HOUSE IS HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT FOR ITS ASSOCIATION WITH ONE OF THOSE UNDER REPRESENTED COMMUNITIES, WHICH IS WOMEN. 
          AND, UH, IT'S FAR MORE OFTEN REFERRED TO AS THE MABEL DAVID'S HOUSE. 
          THEN AS THE OLDEN ENABLED DAVID'S HOUSE OF SOMEBODY ASKED ME ONCE WHO'S ALDEAN. 
          AND, UM, UH, IT, IT REALLY IS MABEL WAS, SHE MUST HAVE BEEN A POWERHOUSE OF A WOMAN, UM, IN, IN AUSTIN AND HER DAY. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SHE SECURED THE LAND FOR, FOR, FOR THE ZILKER GARDENS CENTER, UH, AND DID THE MAJOR FUNDRAISING FOR IT. 
          SHE WAS PRESIDENT OF THE VIOLET CROWN GARDEN CLUB, THE WOMEN'S CLUB, THE HUMANE SOCIETY, AND THEN RAN, UM, RAN THE RED CROSS IN AUSTIN, OVERSEEING 5,000 VOLUNTEERS DURING WORLD WAR TWO, UH, AMONG HER OTHER CREDITS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE, UM, ALSO WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US, I WOULD LIKE THE STAFF TO, UM, LOOK INTO ITS MERITS AS FOR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE. 
          UM, IT HAS A VERY, UM, NOTE WHERE THE ENTRANCE OFF OF, UH, ALTAVISTA IT HAS, UM, UH, FORMAL PLANTINGS. 
          IT HAS A BRICK WALL OF IRON, UM, FENCING, ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WERE INTENTIONAL, UH, AS PART OF AN OVERALL DESIGN THAT, UH, VARDEN DESIGN THAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT FROM SOMEONE WHO IS SO ACTIVE IN GARDENING CIRCLES IN AUSTIN. 
          UM, I, AND THIS IS, THIS IS TRULY THOUGH, THOUGH IT'S SOMEWHAT SHELTERED FROM VIEW BY THE, BY THE PLANTINGS AND TREES. 
          UM, IT'S STILL A MAJOR LANDMARK, UM, IN THE TRAVIS HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          SO I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GO TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. 
          UM, AND I WOULD ALSO, UM, LIKE TO PURSUE POTENTIAL, UH, LANDMARK STATUS, 
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BUT NOT, UH, THE LANDMARK STATUS MAY REMAIN FOR A FUTURE DATE. 
          I WILL SUPPORT PORT THE MOTION. 
          UH, DOES ANYONE ELSE WENT AWAY? WE WEIGH IN OR HAVE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO REFER THIS TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AND POSTPONE DISCUSSION. 
          WELL, POSTPONE ACTION ON IT. 
          AND SO THE JULY 28TH MEETING 26 MEETINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND ANY OPPOSED IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OUR NEXT CASE 
          [3.D.9. PR-2021-084227 – 916 Bouldin Ave. – Consent Council District 9 Proposal: Demolish a ca. 1936 house. Applicant: Benjamin Rice City Staff: Steve Sadowsky, Historic Preservation Office, 512-974-6454 Staff Recommendation: Encourage rehabilitation or relocation, but release the permit upon completion of a City of Austin Documentation Package.]
IS NINE 16 BOLDEN AVENUE. 
          YES, COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, THIS IS AN APPLICATION TO DEMOLISH IN 1936 HOUSE AND LIKE, UH, SEVERAL COMMENTS EARLIER THIS EVENING. 
          THIS IS, UH, THIS HOUSE HAS ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE THAT FAILS IN THE AREA OF HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS. 
          THIS HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1936. 
          IT IS A CRAFTSMAN STYLE FRAME COTTAGE WITH SOME VERY ARTISTIC TUTOR, REVIVAL ELEMENTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE FRONT BATTERED CHIMNEY WITH RANDOM PLACEMENT OF, UH, OF STONES THAT GIVE THIS HOUSE A DISTINCTION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT VERY FEW OTHERS SET UP. 
          UH, THE FIRST OCCUPANTS WERE JOHN AND VICTORIA MCCUTCHEON WHO RENTED THE HOUSE TILL 1948. 
          MR. MCCUTCHEN WORKED AT THE CITY AVATAR, WHICH WAS THE CITY'S, UH, MEAT PROCESSING PLANT. 
          AND, UH, APPARENTLY VICTORIA MCCUTCHEON PASSED AWAY AT SOME POINT, UH, DURING THEIR RESIDENCY, AFTER A PERIOD OF VACANCY, UH, JAMES S AND MARY JO RAMSAY THEM, UM, IT COMES, SORRY, MARY JANE RAMSEY THEN, UH, LIVED IN THIS HOUSE AND THEY WERE DISTRIBUTORS OF WATKINS PRODUCTS, WHICH WAS A FOOD FLAVORINGS SIMILAR ON I'M SURE TO ADAM'S EXTRACT, BUT THESE WERE SO, UH, OUT OF THE HOUSE. 
          SO THEY, UH, THEY LIVED HERE FOR, UH, AT LEAST THROUGH THE END OF THE 1950S STAFF EVALUATED THIS HOUSE, UH, AND FOUND THAT IT HAS HIGH INTEGRITY. 
          IT'S GOT ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE, BUT CANNOT REALLY MAKE THE CASE FOR HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT. 
          UH, MS. COCA HAD MADE A REQUEST FOR A POSTPONEMENT OF THIS CASE TO JULY 24TH TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RECOGNIZED THAT, UH, THIS HOUSE WAS COMING UP AND THAT THERE IS A BOULDIN CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SURVEY THAT IDENTIFIES THIS HOUSE, UM, ABSENT THAT AT THAT SOME GRANTING THE POSTS, OUR STAFF RECOMMENDS, UH, INCURRED, EXCUSE ME, ENCOURAGING REHABILITATION OR RELOCATION, BUT RELEASED TO THE PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF THE CITY DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, OF THE MAIN BODY OF THIS DOCUMENT STAFF STRONGLY ENCOURAGES THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO PURSUE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT NOMINATION TO PREVENT FUTURE LOSSES OF HOUSES, SUCH AS THIS, WHICH DEFINE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT DO NOT QUALIFY INDIVIDUALLY AS HISTORIC LANDMARKS. 
          THANK YOU, MISS . 
          UM, I JUST WANTED TO ADD, YOU SAID IT WAS RECOGNIZED IN THE, IN THE SURVEY OF BOLDEN, IT WAS IDENTIFIED AS, UH, IT WAS ASSESSED AS A CONTRIBUTING PROPERTY TO THAT, UM, TO THAT ARCHITECTURAL SURVEY. 
          YES. 
          DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE? I MOVED TO POSTPONE THE CASE TO THE JULY 26TH MEETING. 
          DO I HEAR A SECOND, UH, COMMISSIONER, TELL IT SECOND, THE MOTION. 
          UM, I WOULD SUPPORT THIS MOTION, I THINK, UM, I THINK THAT, UH, WE WOULD HAVE HEARD FROM MORE, UM, FOR MORE NEIGHBORS ABOUT IT. 
          UH, PERHAPS STAFF COULD, UM, COULD CONDUCT FOR THE RESEARCH. 
          I, I, I SOMETIMES BALK AT THE IDEA THAT A PROPERTY ISN'T SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN IT WERE OWNERS, 
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THEY WERE RENTERS. 
          UM, FOR MOST OF OUR HISTORY, UH, PEOPLE WERE RENTERS, NOT PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          AND THE FACT THAT IT HAD LONG-TERM RENTERS, UM, YOU KNOW, IS, IS SOMETHING, UH, THIS WAS A SUBSTANTIAL HOUSE AT THE TIME. 
          UM, AND WE WAS BUILT AT THE SAME TIME AS THE, UM, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UM, AND, AND WAS IN, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A GOOD WORKING AND, UM, MIDDLE-CLASS FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND, UM, I HATE TO SEE, UH, HOUSES LIKE THIS WITH SO MUCH INTEGRITY. 
          THE LAWS FROM THE STREETSCAPES COMMISSIONER CUTTER. 
          I'LL NOTE THAT FOR A COMMISSION THAT HAS RELATIVELY FEW CRITERIA TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, MOST OTHERS HAVE MANY, MANY CRITERIA TO WORK WITH. 
          I THINK WE UNDER UTILIZE THE COMMUNITY VALUE CRITERIA. 
          THERE'S BEING SO UNIQUE ON SUCH A PROMINENT, UH, PROMINENT STREET IN THE CENTER OF A THREATENED NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, UM, MOVED ME TO POSTPONE. 
          AND IN ADDITION TO THE LACK OF THE ASSIGN, UM, NOTIFYING PEOPLE, AND ALSO THE FACT THAT, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE PRETTY MUCH ANY ADDITION IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE IN THE SAME BUILT IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS THE EXISTING HOUSE OR ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S WELL SUITED FOR, IN ADDITION TO THE REAR, UM, THAT I THINK HOPEFULLY THE OWNER A WEEK WILL RECONSIDER AND THE NEIGHBORS CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THEM. 
          I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HEARING, NONE THE MOTION IS TO POSTPONE TO THE JULY. 
          I BELIEVE IT'S JULY 26TH, UM, NEEDING A LANDMARK COMMISSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE GETTING THROUGH THIS IN RECORD TIME. 
          UM, THAT WAS THE END OF OUR, UM, OF OUR CASES, OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, UM, ITEM E DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT CASES. 
          I THINK COMMISSIONER TALLAGHT, UH, UM, WANTED TO KNOW WHY THIS WAS TAKEN, HAS ANYTHING HAPPENED? I KIND OF WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT REMAIN ON OUR, UM, IN OUR SITES ADJUST. 
          IT'S NOT TAKING UP A LOT OF SPACE ON OUR AGENDA. 
          UM, WE REALLY NEED TO DO WE REALLY NEED TO KICK IT UP AFTER SO MANY YEARS THE SEBRINGS NEED HOUSE? YEAH. 
          MADAM CHAIR. 
          IT WAS AN INADVERTENT OMISSION FROM THE AGENDA. 
          I THINK THIS GIVES US A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO REOPEN THE CONVERSATION WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT ABOUT HOW WE CAN MORE EFFECTIVELY FOLLOW UP. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, 
          [F.1. 2401 Givens Avenue – Consent Rogers Washington Holy Cross Historic District Council District 1 Proposal: Tax abatement application for new windows and general repairs. Applicant: Patricia Calhoun Staff Recommendation: Approve the tax abatement.]
ITEM F DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR TAX ABATEMENT. 
          UH, WE HAVE ONE ITEM 24 0 1 GIVENS AVENUE. 
          UM, WELL HE KNOW WE DID, AND THEN I HAD IN MY NOTES DISCUSS, SO STAFF DID THIS PASS ON CONSENT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT FAST NON-CONSENT PATH AT THE BEGINNING OF, UH, OKAY. 
          THAT WAS A HALF A LIFETIME AGO. 
          UM, I'M SORRY. 
          I FORGET STAFF ITEMS. 
          [4.A. Discussion and Possible Action on Committee Reports]
UH, WE HAVE COMMITTEES HAVE MET, UM, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA. 
          COULD YOU REPORT ON THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE? UM, JUST LOOKING BACK, IT LOOKS LIKE WE, TWO OF THE CASES THAT WE PASSED TODAY, UM, WENT THROUGH THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. 
          SO WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, WORK WITH THE APPLICANTS ON SUCCESSFUL OUTCOMES, UH, FOR THOSE BUILDINGS. 
          SO ONE WAS THE VAUGHN'S HOUSE. 
          UM, THE APPLICANTS CAME IN WITH, UH, GREATLY REVISED, UM, PLANS, UM, FOR THE BOSS' HOUSE. 
          THAT WAS THE CRAFTSMAN BUNGALOW WITH THE STONE, ALL THE STONEWORK THAT'S, UH, A LANDMARK. 
          AND, UM, UH, WE HAD A NUMBER OF CASES THAT, UH, THAT CAME TO US THAT SOME OF WHICH WE'LL SEE IN THE FUTURE. 
          NO DOUBT HAS THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE, MATT, I DON'T THINK SO. 
          THE GRANTS COMMITTEE, THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE MET, UM, COMMISSIONER HEIM STAFF. 
          WOULD YOU REPORT ON THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, WE HAD SOME OF THE MOST THRILLING, UH, WORK OVER THE LAST TWO, TWO MONTHS. 
          AND, UH, IF, IF OUR GOAL IS TO BROADEN THE, UH, REPRESENTATION AND BASE OF SUPPORT FOR OUR, UH, WHOLE PRESERVATION MOVEMENT, UM, WE ARE OFF TO A GREAT START AND, AND THAT'S 
          [02:55:01]
NOT REALLY THE PRIMARY GOAL EITHER. 
          THE PRIMARY OF COURSE, IS TO REWRITE AND UPDATE OUR PRESERVATION PLAN FOR THE CITY, BUT WHAT THE STAFF WAS ABLE TO DO. 
          AND, UH, PUTTING TOGETHER AN APPLICATION PROCESS, UH, WAS EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE. 
          WE HAD SO MANY QUALIFIED APPLICANTS, UH, ALMOST 150 APPLICANTS, UH, THEN STAFF, UH, AGAIN, STEPPED UP AND, UH, CAME UP WITH A, A VERY GOOD WAY OF GIVING US, UH, AFTER WE GAVE SOME GUIDANCE ON EVALUATION, GIVING US TOOLS TO USE THOSE EVALUATIONS SO THAT WE COULD, UM, VERY QUICKLY LOOK THROUGH THE KINDS OF QUALIFICATIONS AND THE KIND OF BREADTH OF REPRESENTATION THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR. 
          AND, UM, BETWEEN THE, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, COMMISSIONER BALANCED SUELA, UH, CHAIRMAN MYERS. 
          UM, I HAVE TO SAY, I, I KIND OF GOT TO RUN ALONG HERE AND JUST ENJOY THE PROCESS BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO AS MUCH HEAVY LIFTING, BUT, UH, PEOPLE PUT IN SOME PHENOMENAL AMOUNT OF TIME. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO PRESENT TO YOU AS THE 30, UH, VERY QUALIFIED, VERY DIVERSE, UH, MEMBERS, UH, WHO WILL WORK TO ASSIST US AS A COMMISSION IN GETTING A LOT OF GOOD INPUT AND SOLVING A LOT, HOPEFULLY STICKY QUESTIONS, UH, AND HELPING STAFF AND OUR, OUR COMMISSION CRAFT A, AN UPTICK TO OUR PRESERVATION PLAN. 
          SO, UH, HATS OFF TO A LOT OF FOLKS, UH, I DO WANT TO IN PARTICULAR, ELIZABETH FROM KARA, UH, BUT I KNOW A BUNCH OF OTHER FOLKS WHO'VE PUT IN TIME AND CONTRIBUTED. 
          THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO ADD IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WERE PERFECTLY QUALIFIED AND WE COULD HAVE, WE COULD HAVE POPULATED THREE TIMES THE NUMBER, UM, WHO DID NOT GET APPOINTED AND THEN MANY NAMES. 
          DO WE FEEL LIKE ANY OF YOU, UH, WHO APPLIED AND WERE WILLING TO PUT THE TIME IN, UM, YOUR, YOUR INTEREST AND EFFORTS SHOULD GO ON WASTED OR UNHEATED, WE NEED YOUR HELP. 
          UH, SO JUST BECAUSE THIS GROUP IS GOING TO BE MEETING IN A MORE FORMAL WAY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLENTY OF PLACES TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS, TO HAVE INPUT IN ON THE PROCESS. 
          AND EVEN THE PROBATION PLAN COMMITTEE MEMBERS, OURSELVES, ALL THREE OF US WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE BEEN ON THE 30 END OPTED INSTEAD TO, UH, HAVE TWO MEMBERS IN FACT, UH, WHO WILL NOW BE SERVING, UH, WITHIN THE GROUP, UH, BR REPRESENTATIVES THERE. 
          BUT THE PRESERVATION PLAN COMMITTEE HAS A DIFFERENT ROLE TO PLAY. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE PART OF HELPING TO DIRECT AND GUIDE AND RESPOND AS SOME OF THE ISSUES WE ALL GATHER AND DECIDE TOGETHER, UH, ARE RAISED. 
          UH, ULTIMATELY WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS FULL COMMISSION FOR YOUR FINAL APPROVAL. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WIND UP NOT ONLY WITH A GREAT PROCESS, BUT I ANTICIPATE THE END RESULT WILL BE A VERY, VERY STRONG DOCUMENT THAT WILL SERVE US FOR A VERY LONG TIME TO COME. 
          SO, UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S, I GOTTA SEND THIS TO SPEECH AND THANK YOU, BUT IT WAS REALLY, REALLY AN AMAZING EFFORT. 
          I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH, UH, HOW IMPRESSED I FOUND. 
          AND I REALLY AM EXCITED ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS. 
          GOOD REPORT, UM, COULD, IS TO KARA AND ELIZABETH, BUT ALSO TO COMMISSIONER VALANCE, KAYLA, WHO DID PUT IN THE TIME TO REVIEW AS, AS COMMISSIONER MINDSETS SAID, WE HAD 150 APPLICANTS. 
          ALL OF THEM HAD SEVERAL ESSAY QUESTIONS TO ANSWER AND COMMISSIONER VALENS WHALE. 
          I READ ALL OF THEM AND REVIEWED THEM. 
          UM, WHILE COMMISSIONER HINDSIGHT THEM, I RESTED ON OUR, ON OUR LAURELS. 
          UM, AND, UH, THIS COMMISSIONER WAS PEEVISH ABOUT NOT BEING SELECTED FOR THE WORKING GROUP, SO, UH, BUT GOT OVER IT. 
          SO, UM, WE HAVE ANOTHER, UM, AND THEN 
          [4.B. Appoint members to the Preservation Plan Working Group]
OUR NEXT ITEM IS BE TO APPOINT THE MEMBERS TO THE PRESERVATION PLAN WORKING GROUP IN OUR BACKUP. 
          WE HAVE A LIST OF THE PEOPLE. 
          UM, THESE ARE FOLKS YOU CAN READ THE LIST, UM, UNLESS DOES STAFF HAVE THE NAMES RIGHT AVAILABLE? I CAN'T MULTITASK THAT WELL, UM, TO, TO PULL UP THE LIST, THEIR BACKUP AT THE SAME TIME, AS I'M LOOKING AT ALL YOUR FACES ON HERE. 
          BUT, UM, WE, WE HAVE, WE MADE DECISIONS. 
          WE CAME UP WITH A GROUP OF 30 OUT OF THAT HUNDRED AND 50. 
          WE HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN, UH, HISPANIC, ASIAN, LGBTQ, UH, PLUS, UM, COMMUNITIES AND IN PRESERVATION BEFORE, BUT ARE INTERESTED 
          [03:00:01]
IN, UH, OH, HERE'S THE LIST ON OUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW? UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT YOU WILL REMEMBER OUR FORMER, UM, FORMER CHAIRMAN OF THE LANDMARK COMMISSION, MARY JO GOLINDA AND FORMER CHAIRMAN. 
          I THINK EMILY, UM, WAIT, OOPS. 
          I MIGHT'VE GOTTEN THAT WRONG. 
          AND I SEE CAROLINE, RIGHT. 
          AND COMMISSIONER COOK, UH, FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL BE ON THE, ON THE COMMITTEE. 
          UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF TALENTED PEOPLE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT WHO HAVE, UM, OFFERED TO, TO SERVE ON THIS COMMITTEE. 
          AND THIS IS, IT'S NOT A COMMITTEE, IT'S A NURSING GROUP, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY BUSY OVER THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF. 
          SO THANK YOU, YOU, AND DO I HEAR A MOTION? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS LIST? I'M PROUD MOTION FORWARD AND REALLY EXCITED TO GET THAT ON THE TABLE AND COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA SECOND A DAY. 
          UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          I THINK, I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD GROUP HERE. 
          THE OTHER THING I THINK THAT BODES WELL IS, UH, AND I'VE TOLD THIS TO STAFF, BUT I REALLY, I HAVE A NUMBER OF GROUPS THAT I'M EITHER A MEMBER OF OR SUBSCRIBE TO THE NEWSLETTERS. 
          I MUST'VE HAD A HALF A DOZEN DIFFERENT NOTICES THAT THIS APPLICATION WAS AVAILABLE AND WOULDN'T, I CONSIDER A PLAN GENERICALLY. 
          I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T SAY THAT, BUT I THINK THAT THAT WAS INDICATION OF JUST HOW UBIQUITOUS THIS WAS AND JUST WHATEVER DOWN THERE IT WAS, IT WAS A GOOD, UM, IT WAS A GOOD EFFORT TO GET THE WORD OUT. 
          UM, SO THANKS AGAIN TO STAFF. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ITEMS, 
          [4.C. Updated memo on Historic Preservation Office process for demolition or relocation permit applications for property owned by religious organizations]
SEE, WE HAVE AN, UM, THE STAFF IS GOING TO UPDATE US ON DEMOLITION, THE PROCESS FOR DEMOLITION OR RELOCATION FOR PROPERTIES OWNED BY RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, WHICH IS A FAIRLY NEW THING IN OUR AND PRESERVATION LAND HERE. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THIS IS AN UPDATE TO A MEMO THAT I PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, UH, IN 2019, UH, THE LEGISLATURE AMENDED TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION, UH, TWO 11.0165, WHICH PROVIDES, UH, OUR CITY AUTHORITY FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION. 
          UH, THIS WAS THE BILL THAT, UH, ADDED A SUPER MAJORITY REQUIREMENT FOR LANDMARKING OVER OWNER. 
          OBJECTION. 
          IT ALSO ESSENTIALLY CREATED A CARVE OUT FOR PROPERTIES OWNED BY RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT THOSE CANNOT BE LANDMARKED WITHOUT THE OWNER'S CONSENT TO THAT LANDMARK DESIGNATION. 
          UM, SO OBVIOUSLY THAT CREATES A TENSION RELATIVE TO THE PROCESS THAT MANY OF THESE APPLICATIONS, UH, UH, WE WERE REVIEWING UNDER EARLIER TONIGHT. 
          UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT DEMOLITION PERMIT APPLICATIONS UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE ARE EXPECTED AS STAFF TO, UH, TO MAKE A DECISION OF WHETHER TO REFER THOSE TO THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION OR TO REALLY SOME ADMINISTRATIVELY WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS. 
          AND, UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE REFERRAL TO THE LANDMARK COMMISSION IS FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER WHETHER THOSE PROPERTIES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION. 
          SO, UH, IN ESSENCE OF STATE LAW UNDERMINES THE DEMOLITION REVIEW THAT WE DO FOR PROPERTIES OWNED BY RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS. 
          UM, SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION AT THAT PRIOR PRESENTATION. 
          THIS IS NOT THIS UPDATED MEMO THAT'S INCLUDED YOUR INBOX AND YOUR BACKUP IS NOT A CHANGE TO THE PROCESS THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED. 
          THIS IS SIMPLY A CLARIFICATION TO TRY TO BETTER ADDRESS THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU RAISED. 
          UM, SO THERE'S A MINOR CHANGE ON THE FIRST PAGE, UM, TO MORE CLEARLY SET THE TONE FOR, UH, THE REASONS THAT WE DO THESE TYPES OF REVIEWS. 
          UH, THE MORE MAJOR CHANGES ARE ON THE SECOND PAGE. 
          UH, THERE'S TWO ADDED SECTIONS, ONE FOR DEMOLITION AND RELOCATION PERMITS IN NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS AND THE OTHER FOR, UM, CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS. 
          UM, WE WILL CONTINUE TO BRING PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION WITH THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS, TO THE COMMISSION FOR REVIEW. 
          UH, BUT WE, IF ANY, WE RECEIVE APPLICATIONS FOR DEMOLITION, EVEN OF CONTRIBUTING PROPERTIES WITH THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS. 
          UH, WE WILL RELEASE THOSE UPON RECEIPT OF THAT APPLICATION AND BRIEF 
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THE COMMISSION AT THE NEXT MEETING REGARDING THAT ACTION, UH, FOR, UM, DESIGNATED HISTORIC LANDMARKS AND, UH, LOCALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICTS. 
          THIS CHANGE IN STATE LAW DOES NOT AFFECT OUR PROCESS. 
          UH, THE COMMISSION STILL RETAINS THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE A CITRA CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR MODIFICATIONS. 
          UH, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE DUTY OF OWNERS TO PRESERVE AND REPAIR HISTORIC PROPERTIES OR THE COMMISSION'S AUTHORITY TO PURSUE DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT. 
          SO THIS IS REALLY A, IT'S A CHANGE IN STATE LAW. 
          THAT'S ABOUT THE DESIGNATION PROCESS, AND IT DOES NOT AFFECT THOSE DESIGNATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. 
          UM, I WILL ADD THAT THERE HAS BEEN ANOTHER CHANGE TO THE SECTION OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, UH, DURING THIS IMMEDIATELY PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          UM, THAT'S, UH, SENATE BILL 1585 CREATES A SIMILAR SUPER MAJORITY REQUIREMENT FOR LOCALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICTS. 
          UM, I WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT AND ANTICIPATE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH ANOTHER MEMO, UM, ALONG THESE LINES IN TERMS OF HOW WE PLAN TO IMPLEMENT, UH, THOSE NEW STATE REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE BILL ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. 
          UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER, UH, I'M LOOKING ON THE SECOND PAGE. 
          YOU SAY IT MAY BE POSSIBLE TO ESTABLISH A PROCESS THAT MORE BROADLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE BENEFITS OF A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THIS WOULD REQUIRE CODE REVISION. 
          SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CODE REVISIONS THAT AUSTIN STILL COULD INITIATE EVEN UNDER THE STATE LAW. 
          I BELIEVE SO. 
          I BELIEVE THAT MAY BE POSSIBLE. 
          UM, WHAT I GLOSSED OVER IS THERE IS THE REQUIREMENT AND NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS THAT, UM, THE COMMISSION CAN, UM, HOLD A PERMIT FOR UP TO 180 DAYS OF RECEIPT OF A COMPLETE APPLICATION. 
          UH, WE'RE CONSIDERING RELIGIOUS PROPERTIES NOT TO FALL UNDER THAT REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING IN CODE THAT EXPRESSLY CALLS THAT A DEMOLITION DELAY OR GIVES ANY JUSTIFICATION FOR A PUBLIC BENEFIT, UH, THAT I, I KNOW WE ALL RECOGNIZE IS DERIVED FROM THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS, FROM THE ABILITY TO SOMETIMES REACH COMPROMISE SOLUTIONS ON THESE DIFFICULT CASES. 
          UH, THAT IS, THAT IS NOWHERE EXPRESSLY ACKNOWLEDGED AND CITY CODE. 
          SO IT MAY BE, IT MAY BE POSSIBLE TO SET UP A PROCESS THAT WOULD REQUIRE A BRIEFING BEFORE RELEASE OF A PERMIT WITHIN A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, BUT, UM, STAFF AND THE LAW DEPARTMENT'S INTERPRETATION OF THE CURRENT CODE IS THAT IT REALLY DOESN'T GIVE US SOMETHING TO HANG OUR HAT ON. 
          UH, THE ONLY REALLY THE COMMISSIONS ONLY RECOURSE FOR OPPOSING ISSUANCE OF A DEMOLITION PERMIT IS THROUGH INITIATION AND RECOMMENDATION OF HISTORIC ZONING, UM, WHICH UNDER THE STATE LAW, THERE IS NO ABILITY TO DO. 
          AND THEN LET ME ASK THE FOLLOW UP. 
          AND CERTAINLY I WOULD ENCOURAGE IF THAT IS POSSIBLE THAT WE PURSUE THAT POST HASTE. 
          UM, SO, UH, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHY I PICKED UP ON IT. 
          UH, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED US TO MAKE FORMALIZED. 
          UH, PLEASE LET US KNOW. 
          THE SECOND PART, I THINK IS MORE, I GUESS, MORE OF AN END. 
          UM, WHAT'S THE BEST WE CAN HOPE FOR FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE, UM, ISSUED A DEMOLITION PERMIT THAT WON'T EVEN HAVE ANY OF ANY PROTECTION, BUT WITHIN FIVE DAYS THAT PERMIT WILL BE ISSUED. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN AT LEAST REQUIRE A DOCUMENTATION? UH, IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO AND, OR AT THE VERY LEAST WHEN YOU DO OUR, UH, SUMMATION, IF YOU'RE GOING TO REPORT BACK TO US ON WHICH PERMITS HAVE BEEN RELEASED AT THE LATER MEETING THAT AT THE VERY MINIMUM WE HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS OR SOME LEVEL OF DOCUMENTATION, BECAUSE EVEN IN THE EVALUATION OF THIS ACTION, RETROACTIVELY, EVEN AS WE PROBABLY IN HEARING YOUR REPORT WILL, WILL DECRY THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE LEFT WITH. 
          I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD DO VERY WELL AND WE'D BE ALL SERVED TO HAVE AT LEAST SOME LEVEL OF DOCUMENTATION AS WE, AS WE ENGAGE IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A REASON THAT THE COMMISSION, UM, OR THE STAFF COULD HOLD A DEMOLITION PERMIT TO REQUIRE A DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, BUT I'M JUST THINKING OFF THE CUFF HERE. 
          UH, WE COULD TAKE THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT ARE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE PERMIT, ASK AND PACKAGE THAT WITH SOME RESEARCH POTENTIALLY, UH, FOR THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO FURTHER, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE CAN, WE COULD REQUEST THAT OF THE APPLICANT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE COULD REQUIRE THAT OF THE APPLICANT AS REQUESTED. 
          AND, UH, AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE GATHER INFORMATION THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN EASILY SAVE AT THIS MOMENT, BUT 
          [03:10:01]
ALSO AS AGAIN, UM, IT, IT WON'T BE A FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I DO THINK THAT YOUR REPORT BACK TO US, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE SAD EVENT THAT SOME OF THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE THE BENEFIT OF REALLY SEEING FIRSTHAND WHAT'S BEING LOST. 
          CERTAINLY. 
          AND THE IRONY IS WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF DEMOLITIONS OF FORMER CHURCHES THAT HAVE COME TO THE COMMISSION. 
          AND THE TWO YEARS SINCE THIS LAW PASSED, BECAUSE THESE ARE CHURCHES THAT HAD CEASED TO FUNCTION AND HAD PASSED INTO OTHER OWNERSHIP. 
          IN THE MEANTIME, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOT SEEN DEMOLITION PERMIT, SO WE'RE AFFECTED BY THE STATE LAW YET, BUT WE WILL BE CERTAIN TO KEEP YOU UPDATED WHEN WE DO. 
          THANK YOU, ELIZABETH. 
          UM, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS, UH, 
          [4.D. Future Agenda Items]
THE LAST ITEM D FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA, IF I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF ANOTHER COMMISSIONER, I WOULD LOVE TO REQUEST THAT THE MONTOPOLIS SCHOOL NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION BE PLACED ON OUR JULY AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN REVIEW OFFER COMMENTS AND PERHAPS PROVIDE A FORMAL LETTER OF SUPPORT, UM, AS IT GOES ALONG TO THE STATE BOARD OF REVIEW. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THAT A YES, YOU'RE THE OTHER, YOU'RE THE OTHER COMMISSIONER? UM, I THINK THAT'S A SPLENDID IDEA. 
          UH, STAFF, CAN WE ADD THAT TO OUR AGENDA PLACE? CERTAINLY ANY OF THE, UH, NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS WITHIN AUSTIN THAT ARE GOING TO THE NEXT STATE BOARD OF REVIEW MEETING, I BELIEVE WILL BE UP FOR DISCUSSION AT THE JULY, UH, LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BANKS THAT I WANTED, UM, AGAIN, TO WELCOME COMMISSIONER CASTILLO TO OUR GROUP, UH, YOU'RE GETTING OFF LUCKY TONIGHT AND WE'RE IN BEING BEFORE LIKE 11. 
          UM, SO, UH, THIS IS A FIRST, I THINK THIS IS THE EARLIEST WE'VE GOTTEN OFF SINCE WE WENT VIRTUAL. 
          UM, AND OUR IN-PERSON MEETINGS USUALLY GO LONGER THAN THAT. 
          SO, UH, TH THIS IS A LIGHT MEETING TONIGHT, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND, AND, UM, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ASK THE STAFF, BUT WELCOME HERE. 
          DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADJOURN COMMISSIONER VALANZUELA COMMISSIONER COOK SECONDS. 
          OH, YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. 
          IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          WE ARE ADJOURNED. 
          SEE YOU NEXT MONTH. 
          BYE BYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, IF STAFF IS STILL ON,  A WOMAN SCISSORS SHOVELS COME IN THREE. 
          EVERY TIME SHE GETS TO TWO, SHE PRAYS THE ROSARY.
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