* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. I [00:00:01] UPGRADED MY SYSTEM AND I GOT SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, ALL EIGHT OF US BRADY BUNCH STYLE. SO I WILL START THE MEETING AND APOLOGIES, AND IT IS 6 0 7 ON JULY 6TH, 2021. AND I'LL READ THE AGENDA AND GIVE ME A SECOND WHILE I GET TO IT. AND BECAUSE I REALLY HAD TO SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING, REDO MY PASSWORD AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT THAT'S LIFE BREATH AND CALL THE ROLL. YES. OKAY. ROLL. UM, COMMISSIONER KOSTA, CHAIR, BARRERA RAMIREZ, COMMISSIONER BRAY, COMMISSIONER DENTLER, COMMISSIONER GREENBERG HERE. COMMISSIONER KING HERE. I'M HERE. COMMISSIONER RAY HERE. COMMISSIONER SMITH AND COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. YES. COMMISSIONER WOODY. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY, I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. SO THE FIRST, UM, IS THE A [A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] ONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM JUNE 15TH, 2021. AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA UNLESS I HEAR OTHERWISE. AND THEN B ONE REZONING C 14 DASH 28, 20 DASH 0 1 4 6, 11 70 OR 11 7 0 5 RESEARCH BOULEVARD, ZONING DISTRICT SIX. AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JULY 20TH. AND THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM B TWO REZONING C 14 DASH 2020 DASH 0 0 9 0 6 20 HILL COUNTRY CENTER. DISTRICT SIX. STAFF IS REQUESTING A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JULY 20TH AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. B3 REZONING SEE 14 DASH 2020 DASH 0 1 4 3 DASH 1 2 1 2 1 NORTH I 35 REZONING DISTRICT ONE. AND THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM B FOR REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 0 8 7 DASH C K B JOHNNY MORRIS DISTRICT ONE. AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, B FIVE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TERMINATION, C 14 DASH EIGHT EIGHT DASH 0 1 3 7 IN PARENTHESES RCT, JOHNNY MORRIS MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ONE. AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. B6 SITE PLANS S P DASH 2019 DASH 0 1 41 C HOWARD PLAZA AND DISTRICT ONE. AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND SO THE CONSENT AGENDA IS I'LL GROUP THEM AGAIN IS B ONE, I MEAN A ONE THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM JUNE 15TH, UH, B TO THE REZONING STAFF POSTPONEMENT UNTIL JULY 20TH, BEFORE AND B FIVE AND B6. AND IS THERE ALL EMOTION OR COMMENTS? SURE. YES. UH, ON THE, UH, ITEM B6, UH, STAFF HAD INDICATED THAT THEY WANTED TO ADD, UH, THE FOLLOWING COMMENT TO THE, TO THE, TO THAT, TO THAT ITEM, UH, ON THE CONSENT I BELIEVE IN THAT, IS THAT ALL REMAINING IN FORMAL ADMINISTRATIVE COMMENTS ARE CLEARED PRIOR TO SITE PLAN APPROVAL. OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO READ THAT IN SO THAT IT IS PART OF THE MOTION FOR THAT ITEM. OKAY, GREAT. THANKS. AND COMMISSIONER GREENBURG AND THEN COMMISSIONER DANCLER I GUESS SIMILARLY THERE WAS A WHOLE SET OF PROHIBITED USES FOR BEFORE. I THINK THOSE SHOULD BE READ INTO THE RECORD. OKAY. WHO'S READING THAT. UM, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DO IT? I'VE GOT, I JUST HAD TO CLOSE OUT OF EVERYTHING TO REBOOT. UM, I HAVE TO FIND THAT EMAIL AND IF NOT, I CAN PULL UP EVERYTHING. YEAH. I'LL LOOK WELL, YOU IT'S OUR COMMISSION LIAISON AND VERA, IF THEY ARE PART OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THAT WILL BE NOTED THERE WEREN'T SOME OF THEM SAY, UH, THANKS. SO ACTUALLY WERE, I THINK THEY WERE HOLD [00:05:01] ON. YES. STUFF TO SAY. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS IS HEATHER CHAPMAN WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. I'M SORRY. HOUSING AND PLANNING REGARDING THE ADDITIONAL I'M GOOD WITH PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT YEAH, WE KNOW WE, WE KNOW. YEAH, THANKS HEATHER. I WORKED, I WORKED SOMEWHERE, UM, REGARDING THE, UH, USES THAT WERE REQUESTED TO BE PROHIBITED. AND THE LETTER FROM THE COLONY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THERE, THERE WERE SOME USES FROM THEIR LIST THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THE FIRST WAS LIMITED WAREHOUSING AND DISTRIBUTION BECAUSE IT IS NOT PERMITTED IN THE GR AND UW ZONING CATEGORY THAT THEY WERE WORK LISTING. SO WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT. THE OTHER ONES WERE GROUP HOME, FAMILY, HOME AND RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT. AND OUR DEPARTMENT HAS DETERMINED THAT WE CAN NO LONGER PROHIBIT THOSE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT HAS BEEN READ INTO THE RECORD THEN. SO THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AND TO PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER RAY, A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPEAR TO BE CONSENTED. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND COMMISSIONER WOODY? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS. THANKS. AND OPPOSED COMMISSIONER THOMPSON AS OPPOSED. AND SO THAT, OH, NO, NO, NO. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. SO IT'S UNANIMOUS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, THEN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT FOR B ONE AND, UM, WHO DO WE HAVE TO, I HAVE THE SPEAKERS LIST AND I JUST HAVE TO GET IT FROM THE PRINTER, BUT WHO DO WE HAVE SPEAKING? UM, SO I, I ASSUME SPEAKING IN FAVOR [B1. Rezoning: C14-2020-0146 - 11705 Research Blvd Zoning; District 6] OF THE POSTPONEMENT WILL BE AMANDA SWORE AND SHE WILL HAVE, I BELIEVE THREE MINUTES. IS THAT CORRECT? ANDREW CHAIR. COMMISSIONER HE'S ON ANDOVER. UH, SO THE DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT CONSISTS OF TWO INDIVIDUALS FROM EACH SIDE FOR AND AGAINST THE POSTPONEMENT, ALL IN REGARDS, ONLY SPEAKING TO THE MERITS, ONLY SPEAKING TO THE DISCUSSION AND NOT THE MERITS OF THE CASE. AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE'S ALSO A REQUEST FROM COMMISSIONER SMITH WHO HAS REQUESTED THAT THIS ITEM BE POSTPONED AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, COMMISSIONER, UM, I MEAN, COMMISSIONER, UM, AMANDA, UM, SWORE YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR AND YOU CAN ALSO SAY WHO THE SECOND PERSON IS, WHO WILL BE SPEAKING IN FAVOR. AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, UM, IN CASE THE ISSUE IN CASE THIS AGENDA ITEM WENT WAS HEARD TODAY. AND SO I'LL JUST ASK THEM TO SPEAK, UM, UH, TO, THEY CAN TELL ME AT THE BEGINNING OF THEIR OPPOSITION IN CASE THEY ARE OPPOSED, UM, THEY CAN, THEY CAN SORT THEMSELVES OUT. I HOPE. OKAY. UM, AMANDA SWORE, ARE YOU THERE YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT. YES, I I'M AMANDA SWORE WITH RENDERED ROOTS BECAUSE THE APPLICANT FOR THE REQUESTED COMMENT FOR TWO WEEKS, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMISSION'S LONGSTANDING HISTORY OF ALLOWING CONTROVERSIAL CASES TO BE HEARD BY A, FOR ALMOST FULL COMMISSION AND THE COMMISSION MISSING THREE MEMBERS OR OVER A QUARTER OF THE COMMISSIONERS. IT'S JUST NOT THAT DURING A CONTROVERSIAL CASE, A FULL COMMISSION IS THE REASON THERE ARE 11 MEMBERS ON THIS COMMISSION. SO ALLOW FOR A ROBUST DISCUSSION. ADDITIONALLY, THIS WILL EFFECTIVELY BE THE APPLICANT'S FIRST REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT. NOW THAT THE CASE IS COMPLETE AND THE CA DRAFT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, WE DID MAKE AN INITIAL REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT ON JUNE 1ST FOR TWO WEEKS. AND THAT WAS OUR POSTPONEMENT REQUESTS TO ALLOW THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO FINISH REVIEW OUR TIA AND PROVIDE A DRAFT CIA MEMO. THE TIA IS NOT PART OF THIS ZONING CASE, BUT WE HAD HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE THE RESULTS OF THE PENDING CIA. SO WE REQUESTED THAT POSTPONEMENT TO ALLOW FOR THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO FINISH THEIR REVIEW AND ALL REALITY THAT LIKELY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASSESSED SUMMIT. WE SHOULD HAVE REQUESTED THAT THAT BE THE CASE. THE LAST REQUEST REQUEST ON THAT TO THIS [00:10:01] DATE WAS ON JUNE 15TH. AND THAT WAS A SACRIFICE, NOT AN APPLICANT REQUEST BECAUSE THE TA MEMO WAS NOT READY IN TIME FOR THE HEARING. AGAIN, WE ARE ONLY ASKING FOR WHAT HAS BEEN GRANTED FOR A LONG TIME BY THIS COMMISSION THAT OUR EFFECTIVE FIRST POSTPONEMENT REQUEST IS GRANTED AND THAT A CONTROVERSIAL CASE HAVING THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD BY A FULL OR ALMOST FULL COMMISSION, NOT A COMMISSION MISSING 25% OF ASSEMBLERS NOT GRANTING THIS POSTPONEMENT WILL DEPRIVE THE CASE TO THE FULL HEARINGS AND CHEMISTS THAT ARE NOT THE RIGHT TO WEIGH IN. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, WHO ELSE WILL BE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST? OKAY. WE WILL, I WILL JUST SEE THE SPEAKER IN SABRE. OH, OKAY. THANKS. OKAY. AND THEN FROM THE LIST OF, UM, FOLKS, OTHER FOLKS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP, ARE THERE TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE STEPPING FORWARD TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST VARIABLE FIRST HEAR FROM MR. STEVEN SCHRADER. OKAY. THANK YOU. MY NAME AND SPEAKING AS PRESIDENT OF THE SEMINOLE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE POST THE LAST MINUTE REQUEST TO POSTPONE THE REZONING CASE OF THE 3M PROPERTY. ON RESEARCH BOULEVARD, IT'S APPROVED. THIS WOULD BE THE FIFTH POSTPONEMENT OF THE CASE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOME COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT PRESENT TONIGHT, BUT SINCE THE QUORUM EXISTS, THEN WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS CONSIDERING THAT IT'S SUMMER VACATION SEASON, FUTURE MEETINGS, MALE SELECT ONE OR MORE COMMISSIONERS. AND WE DOUBT THAT CONTINUED POSTMA POSTPONEMENTS ARE IN ANYONE'S INTERESTS. WE HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO PREPARE FOR EACH OF THE SCHEDULED MEETINGS TO PROVIDE THE COMMISSIONERS INFORMATION. WE THINK THEY WILL FIND USEFUL TONIGHT. THE LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE HAVE DEDICATED TIME TO BE AVAILABLE AND TO MAKE THEIR VIEWS KNOWN THEIR UPCOMING PLANS AND SCHEDULES WOULD BE IMPACTED IF THEY WERE REQUIRED TO RETURN. AGAIN, WE DO NOT SUPPORT A POSTPONEMENT. THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION. UH, MR. BEAU PERRY WILL ALSO MAKE A STATEMENT, UH, TO, UH, UH, OPPOSING THE POSTPONEMENT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND MR. PERRY, PERRY 11 9 0 6 MUSTANG CHASE. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF A SPECIAL BOARD COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THIS DEVELOPMENT OF IVANA. UH, WE, UH, WE ALSO BOTH OPPOSE POSTPONING THIS PARTICULAR CASE. UH, AGAIN, IT'S BEEN FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES. THIS WOULD MAKE A POSTPONEMENT, THE DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE READY TO STATE THEIR CASE FOR IT AT ANY AND ALL MEETINGS. AND ADDITION, WE BELIEVE THAT ALL THE COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE PRESENT ARE MORE THAN CAPABLE OF MAKING THE DECISION BEING THAT YOU DO HAVE A QUORUM THERE. WE HAVE NOT ENGAGED WITH THE DEVELOPER, AS THEY HAD SAID, NOR HAVE ANY POSTPONEMENTS BEEN DONE FROM THE DEVELOPER ON THE RESIDENT BEHALF OF THIS, AS YOU CAN SEE A LARGE LIST OF PEOPLE. AND ONCE IT BECAME KNOWN, THE DEVELOPER ASKED FOR IT TO BE POSTPONED ONLY AT THIS TIME WHEN THEY SAW THAT THE RESIDENTS HAD YET AGAIN, MADE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE EVEN WITH THE LONG WEEKENDS. SO WE DEFINITELY OPPOSE ANY POSTPONEMENT OF THIS AND WE'RE READY TO SPEAK OUR CASE TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND NOW, UM, EMOTION, A DISCUSSION, WHATEVER YOU ALL WANT TO DO. UM, I WANT TO ASK, IS IT POSSIBLE TO, UM, HEAR PEOPLE SPEAK AND THEN POSTPONE CONSIDERATION AS WELL? LIKE GET PEOPLE'S HANDS TO SPEAK THAT ARE ON THE LINE TO SPEAK, BUT ALSO ALLOW US TO POSTPONE BECAUSE I JUST AS SPECIFIC, ESPECIALLY WITH A SPECIFIC COMMISSIONER ASKING TO BE ABLE TO SPECIFY AND BE ABLE TO HEAR THE CASE, WELL, I'LL ACTUALLY ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE A LONG TIME AGO, I ASKED TO HAVE A VERY CONTENTIOUS CASE POSTPONED AND NOT ONLY WAS IT IGNORED, BUT I KIND OF PAID THE PRICE FOR IT FOR A LONG TIME. SO, UM, I'M JUST SHOWING MY CARDS UP THERE RIGHT THERE. BUT SECOND, WE TEND TO HEAR CASE WE JUST TEND TO DO THE POSTPONEMENT IN OUR VOTE IN THIS RIGHT NOW. AND OUR DISCUSSION IS LIMITED TO GRANTING THE POSTPONEMENT. SO, AND WE HAVE TO DO THE AFFIRMATIVE TO GRANT A POSTPONEMENT. UM, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING FOR A MOTION WE CAN, WHILE WE'RE HEARING THE CASE, WE CAN DECIDE SOMETHING ELSE. BUT, UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO JUST MAKE A DECISION. [00:15:01] OKAY. COMMISSIONER, DINKLER YOU NEED TO UNMUTE. HM. UH, MY APOLOGIES. UM, I WOULD MOVE TO DENY THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST. UH, I DON'T DO THAT LIGHTLY, GENERALLY. I'M ONE WHO HAS, HAS SUPPORTED REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT, BUT WE'VE HAD THE, UH, MEMO FROM STAFF FOR THE TIA S IS ON A DIFFERENT TRACK FOR QUITE A WHILE. THERE'S REALLY NO INFORMATION, UM, THAT I THINK CHANGES THIS, THIS WAS DATE WAS SCHEDULED BY THE APPLICANT. AND BY THE WAY, OUR RULES DON'T REQUIRE THAT WE POSTPONE ITEMS FOR COMMISSIONERS AND THAT HASN'T BEEN CONSISTENTLY APPLIED. UM, I THINK THERE WERE SOME, SO I MOVE THAT. WE DENY THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST. I'M READY TO HEAR THE CASE AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KING. IS THAT IT? OKAY THEN? YES, TO MY, MY, UH, SECOND, UH, UH, I JUST WOULD LIKE THERE TO BE A DISCUSSION ON THIS. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE MAY HAVE ON THIS, UH, AND THIS MOTION HERE, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WITH ALL THE POSTPONEMENTS ON THIS CASE, THERE HAVE BEEN PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, THE DETAILS TO BE WORKED OUT HERE. AND I THINK AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S READY TO GO AND THEY'VE BEEN READY TO GO MULTIPLE TIMES. SO, UH, I'M KIND OF SURPRISED ABOUT THIS LAST MINUTE, UH, YOU KNOW, POSTPONEMENT REQUESTS. SO ANYWAY, I'M, I'M, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER RAY, AND THEN, UM, WE'LL USE THE LITTLE HANDS THING UNLESS PEOPLE HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT, BUT I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER RAY AND I'VE FINALLY POPPED UP THE HANDS THING. ALWAYS GOOD TO BE REMINDED OF THE HAND THING. UM, I WANT TO MAKE JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DISCUSSION AND EVERYONE KNOWING WHERE WE STAND ON THIS MATTER, UM, I'LL MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO APPROVE THE POSTPONEMENT REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT, UH, ESPECIALLY HEARING FROM SPECIFIC COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN. I THINK IN THE SPIRIT OF HAVING A GOOD, HEALTHY DISCUSSION ON A MATTER THAT IS HIGHLY CONTESTED. WE CAN COME BACK AGAIN AND DISCUSS THIS WHEN EVERYONE'S AT THE TABLE. OH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BRAY. OKAY. ANYBODY WISH TO, UM, FURTHER DISCUSSION AND ANY OBSERVATIONS AND IF NOT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER KING AND THEN COMMISSIONER GREENBERG. OKAY. YES, I DID. I USED THE HAND, SO, OKAY. SO THANK YOU. UH, UH, WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I DO, I DO APPRECIATE THAT COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN OUR MEETINGS AND BEING PART OF OUR MEETINGS AND HELPING TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THESE CASES. YOU KNOW, I DO, AND I DO HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT, I JUST WISHED THAT WE COULD ALL BE HERE FOR ALL MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. AND, AND SO, UH, BUT IF THAT BECOMES ONE OF THE KEY FACTORS THAT WE USE IN DETERMINING WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE, THEN EVERY TIME WE DON'T HAVE A FULL COMMISSION THAT COULD BE USED TO JUSTIFY POSTPONING A CASE. AND I WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DON'T GET STARTED DOWN THIS, THIS TRAIL OF, UH, IF WE DON'T HAVE A FULL COMMISSIONER, IF WE DON'T HAVE MORE THAN EIGHT OR WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS THAT WE'VE GOT TO POSTPONE THE CASE, IF IT'S REQUESTED FOR THAT REASON, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A QUORUM HERE AND I THINK THIS CASE HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE PROCESS LONG ENOUGH, IT'S, IT'S READY TO GO. WE HAVE THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION. SO I, I THINK IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST THAT IT'S READY TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS CASE. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST STEP IN AND SAY, I TRY TO RESPECT ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE PARTICIPATING AND ESPECIALLY, I MEAN, IT IS, IT IS THE TUESDAY AFTER A HOLIDAY WEEKEND. AND I THINK HAVING MADE, THEY PEOPLE HAVE MADE A LOT OF EFFORT TO BE HERE. AND ALSO, I SAY, AS A COMMISSIONER TOO, I'VE MADE A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT TO BE RUNNING THE MEETING TONIGHT AND TO, UM, TO BE HERE. AND ALSO I HAVE PREPARED FOR THIS CASE THREE OR FOUR TIMES, [00:20:05] ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. COMMISSIONER GREENBIRD OKAY. COMMISSIONER TO REITERATE COMMISSIONER KING'S POINT, UM, PRIOR TO EVEN BEING APPOINTED TO THIS COMMISSION, I PLANNED TO BE AWAY. SO I WOULD BE AWAY IN TWO WEEKS. I, I THINK I'LL BE ABLE TO REMOTE IN ANY WAY, BUT I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME ZONE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL HAVE WIFI. UM, ARE YOU GONNA POSTPONE AGAIN BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE ARE UNAVAILABLE FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND I THINK THAT'S JUST NOT A GOOD, UM, SORT OF HABIT TO GET INTO. OKAY. I SEE NO LITTLE HANDS UP OR ANYTHING. SO WE'LL TAKE A VOTE, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION. AND THAT IS TO, UM, POSTPONE THIS CASE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING, THE CASE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND THE, LIKE THE REAL HAND. UM, SO PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS. AND IT IS, UH, COMMISSION, UH, I SEE COMMISSIONER RAY, ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. AND SO ONE, TWO, SO THE MOTION FAILS BY ONE TO SEVEN AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE OTHER MOTION. BUT I THINK THAT ACTUALLY SHOULD SUFFICE. YEAH, BECAUSE WE CAN'T, BUT THE MOTION IS TO, YES. THE POSTPONE FAILS. RIGHT. AND SO WE WILL HEAR THE CASE CHAIR COMMISSIONER ON ANDREW RIVERA. YES. YES. JUST REAL QUICK HAVE CITIZENS. AND THE APPLICANT FOR B3 ARE CURRENTLY ON THE LINE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY ON THE LINE. AND WHEN WE WERE ABOUT 15 MINUTES ARE TAKEN UP THAT ITEM. YOU'LL RECEIVE AN EMAIL TO CALL IN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, IT'S BEEN SINCE I HAVEN'T CHAIRED A MEETING IN A WHILE. YES. THAT IS A REALLY NICE FEATURE THAT'S BEEN ADDED. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT, ANDREW. SO FOR EVERYBODY ON THE LINE FOR B3, IF YOU HEARD THAT, THAT YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED ABOUT 15 MINUTES BEFORE, AND WE ARE GOING TO HEAR THIS CASE B ONE. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO NOW WE WILL BEGIN TO PROCEED WITH OUR CASE. UH, SO SPEAKING THE APPLICANT, UM, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT WILL BE AMANDA SWORE AND AMANDA, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES CHAIR. WOULD YOU LIKE A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF? OH MY GOSH. YES. I'M SORRY. I'M JUST LOOKING AT MY LIST. I'M A TINY BIT RUSTY. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS. I'M SHERRY WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS IS ITEM B ONE, WHICH IS CASEY 14, 20 20 0 1 4 6. LOCATED AT 1, 1 7 0 5 RESEARCH BOULEVARD. THE REQUEST IS FROM L I C O L. I ZONING. THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IN THIS CASE IS TO RECOMMEND LIC AS ZONING LIMITED INDUSTRIAL CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING, THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WILL MAINTAIN THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS FROM THE CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THIS PROPERTY. THE FOLLOWING USES SHALL BE PROHIBITED ON THE PROPERTIES FOR IN SALVAGE RESOURCE EXTRACTION, BASIC INDUSTRY AND VEHICLE STORAGE. AND THE FOLLOWING USES SHALL BE PROHIBITED ON APPROXIMATELY 1.67 ACRES ON THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY FOR A DEPTH OF 150 FEET, YOU KNOW, WAREHOUSING AND DISTRIBUTION EQUIPMENT SALES EQUIPMENT, REPAIR SERVICES, AND KENNELS. THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS A FIVE PLUS ACRE UNDEVELOPED TRACT OF LAND THAT FRONT SAW THE U US HIGHWAY 180 3 OR RESEARCH BOULEVARD DECIDE IS PART OF THE 3M CAMPUS, WHICH SURROUNDS THIS TRACK TO THE NORTH AND EAST. SO LOTS OF THE WESTERN TECH CONSISTS OF THE GENERAL RETAIL SALES YOUTH AND OFFICE BUILDING. AND IT'S IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES. IN THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING TO REMOVE THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT WAS PLACED ON THIS PROPERTY AND ZONING CASEY 14 89 0 0 0 9 THROUGH ORDINANCE 9 0 0 1 1 8. BE THE INTENDED USE FOR THIS SITE IS OFFICE RETAIL. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS LIC ZONING WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY TO MAINTAIN SOME OF THE CONDITIONS FROM THE CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THIS PROPERTY. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS PROHIBITING SCRAP AND SALVAGE RESOURCE EXTRACTION, BASIC INDUSTRY AND VEHICLE STORAGE USES ON THE PROPERTY. AND, AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDS PROHIBITING GENERAL WAREHOUSING AND DISTRIBUTION EQUIPMENT SALES [00:25:01] EQUIPMENT REPAIR SERVICES, AND KENDALL USES ON THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY FOR A DEPTH OF 150 FEET, PROVIDING THIS CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WILL MAINTAIN A SEPARATION OR A TRANSITION BETWEEN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO THE WET LSU ZONING WILL PERMIT THE APPLICANT TO DEVELOP ADDITIONAL USES ON THIS UNDEVELOPED TRACT OF LAND THAT FRONTS ONTO A MAJOR ARTERIAL ROADWAY OR A HIGHWAY. THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO CONDUCT A NEW TIA AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN WHEN THE LAND USE AND SINCE, AND SITE LAYOUT WILL BE NO. AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU, SHERRY. AND NOW WE ARE READY FOR THOSE IN FAVOR, BEGINNING WITH THE APPLICANT AMANDA SWORE, AND AMANDA, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES. THANK YOU CHAIR. IF SOMEONE COULD JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN THE PRESENTATION THAT'S PULLED UP, IT'S A FLAT, IT IS IT'S IT'S UP THERE. UM, WHITE LETTERING AGAINST THE BLACK BACKGROUND. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY THAT I CAN SEE THESE AGAIN, TOO. I LOOK FOR, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY WHEN I CAN SEE YOU PRESENTING IT, NEW COMMISSIONERS, UH, MY NAME'S AND THE UNDERSCORE WITH TURNER GROUP. I'M HERE THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, WE APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US PRESENT ITS CASE. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE, AS STAFF MENTIONED, THE REZONING REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT IS FOR A 5.60 ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND ZONED EL ICO. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ON THIS SIDE, THAT 5.6 ACRES IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW IS WHAT YOU WILL SEE ON THE, ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF A LARGER SITE THAT IT'S OUTLINED IN A BLUE DASH, THIS 5.6 ACRES. IT'S PART OF AN OVERALL REDEVELOPMENT OF A 57 ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY 3M. AS YOU SEE ON THIS, I, THE MAJORITY OF THIS PROPERTY OF THE 57 ACRES HAS A STANDARD LIC ZONING. THIS 5.6 ACRES HAS THE EXISTING LIC AND OUR REQUEST IS TO REBUILD THE PROPERTY TO LA. YEAH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. BUT AERIAL VIEW OF WHERE THAT FIVE, AGAIN, 5.6 ACRES SITS ON THE FRONT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I'LL WALK THROUGH A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN STAFF DID ON THE LIC REQUESTS, ON WHAT THING, AND WHAT'S GOING, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS THAT HAS A LOT OF ITEMS IN IT THAT ARE FROM, UH, THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY APPLICABLE TO THE CASES. SO THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT IS PROPOSING TO STAY ON THE PROPERTY IS REALLY USED DRIVEN. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY FOR THE 5.6 ACRES, NOT THE LARGER 57 ACRES. SO THE EXISTING USES THAT ARE PROHIBITED WITH THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ON THE PROPERTY TODAY, THAT WOULD CARRY OVER TO A NEW EL ICO IF APPROVED WOULD BE TO PRECIPITATE THOSE TRAPPING SALVAGE RESOURCE EXTRACTION, BASIC INDUSTRY AND VEHICLE STORAGE USES ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THE PROHIBITION OF THE ADDITIONAL FOUR USES THE GENERAL WAREHOUSING AND DISTRIBUTION EQUIPMENT SALES EQUIPMENT, REPAIR SERVICES, AND KENNELS ON THE 1.6 ACRES, WHICH IS A 150 FEET. AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE USE OF PROHIBITION THAT ARE IN THE EXISTING CONDITIONAL OVERLAY AND WOULD CARRY OVER. THAT IS A STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND AN INITIAL MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS REPRESENTATIVE. THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THAT TO STAY, AND WE ARE COMPLETELY AGREEABLE WITH THOSE USE RESTRICTIONS, MAINTAINING AS PART OF THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR THE PROPERTY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE ARE SOME USES THAT WE WOULD START WITH ONE. SO THE EXISTING CONDITIONAL OVERLAY HAS A HEIGHT LIMITATION OF 40 FEET, AND THAT WAS THE NAME SERVER FOR THIS REQUEST. SO OUR REQUEST IS THAT THE HEIGHT ALLOCATION FOR THIS PROPERTY BE 60 FEET, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH LA ZONING. AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE 57 ACRE PIECE OF THE PROPERTY. THE, UH, FOLLOWING USES ARE ALSO, UM, WERE PROHIBITED ON THE ENTIRE VIEW OF THE PROPERTY AND THAT WAS CONVENIENT STORAGE, AUTOMOTIVE RENTALS AND HOTEL MOTEL. THOSE CAME OUT AS PART OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. AND AGAIN, WE ARE, WE ARE NOT ANTICIPATING PUTTING THOSE ON THE SITE, BUT WE ARE, UH, AGREEING WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I'M GOING TO SKIP THROUGH THESE A LITTLE BIT FASTER, BUT THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WE ARE ALSO ASKING TO REMOVE. SO ONE OF THEM BEING THAT THE INITIAL CONDITIONAL OVERLAY HAS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH A TIA THAT WAS COMPLETED IN 1989, THAT TIA [00:30:01] IS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND. UH, WE AS APPLICANTS HAVE DONE ALL OF THE RESEARCH THAT WE CAN, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO THE ORIGINAL TRAFFIC ENGINEERS. WE'D REACHED OUT TO MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS, AND I KNOW STAFF HAS DONE THE SAME IN THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, JUST NO LONGER EXISTS AS PART OF THE REZONING. A TIA WAS NOT REQUIRED BECAUSE THIS REZONING REQUEST IS FOR A SMALL PORTION OF A LARGER REDEVELOPMENT. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER TONIGHT, WE DID COMPLETE A FULL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AS PART OF A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT THAT IS CURRENTLY IN REVIEW. AND SO THAT'S TIA MEMOS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE BACKUP THAT WAS RELEASED ON THE 15TH OF JUNE IS A RESULT OF THE OVERALL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT THAT I'LL TOUCH ON AGAIN IN A SECOND. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. UM, THIS NEXT COUPLE ARE ITEMS THAT JUST REALLY AREN'T IN A LOT OF SITES OR IN A LOT OF CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS ANYMORE. UM, YOU KNOW, BUILDING PERMITS FOR CONSTRUCTION. SO ALL THE ISSUES ALL REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET AND SITE PLAN HAS TO BE APPROVED. THAT'S THAT'S STANDARD PRACTICE NOW, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION, UM, CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN AWARDED TO A ROADWAY AND THAT IS PRIOR. SO WHEN 83 BEING DEVELOPED IN ITS CURRENT CONDITION, NEXT SLIDE, AS I MENTIONED, THIS REZONING IS FOR A PORTION OF A MUCH SMALLER PIECE OF PROPERTY TODAY, WITHOUT THIS REZONING REQUEST, THIS PROPERTY CAN REDEVELOP WITH OVER 2 MILLION SQUARE FEET. IT'S ACTUALLY A POST TO 2.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL USES WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING. OUR REZONING REQUEST IS AGAIN, TO PRIMARILY ALLOW FOR A 60 FOOT OF BUILDING HEIGHT IN THE AREA THAT SHADED IN RED, WHERE THAT BUILDING WILL ACHIEVE 60 FEET IN HEIGHT IS ONLY THE AREA THAT IS SHADED IN BLUE. THE REASON FOR THIS REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR THE PRESERVATION OF EXISTING TREES AND TO ALLOW FOR AN OVERALL BETTER LAYOUT OF THE PROPERTY. AGAIN, THIS PROJECT CAN DEVELOP WITH 2.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET BY, RIGHT. OUR PROPOSAL IS 1.2 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF BUILD OUT. THAT IS WHAT WAS REVIEWED IN THE TIA. AND IT IS WHAT IS PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. AND I DO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE PART OF THE TIA IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT AND QUESTIONS. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN, UM, I HAVE SIGNED UP FOR IN FAVOR CLINTON BACK BAFTA, ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK, AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND ALSO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR BACH TO TYRANNY AND KEVIN BROOK. THIS IS AMANDA SWORE APP IS OUR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER AND WILL BE AVAILABLE TO HELP AND ASSIST WITH QUESTIONS. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION, UM, CLAYTON AND KEVIN ARE WITH OUR APPLICANT TEAM AND WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS THE, UM, AS THEY COME UP. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN WE WILL GO TO THEN, UM, WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, WHO ARE OPPOSED. AND FIRST STEP IS STEVEN SCHRADER AND YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES FOLLOWED BY MICAH KING, THEN STEVEN MOLINA, ASHLEY MOLINA. UM, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THE LIST, UM, AS WE WORK THROUGH IT. OKAY. MY NAME IS STEVEN SCHRADER. I LIVED IN THE SUMMIT OUTS NEIGHBORHOODS FOR 36 YEARS, AND I NOW SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'VE ALSO PROVIDED DETAILED WRITTEN COMMENTS, WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP FOR THE AGENDA ITEM STARTING AT PAGE 44. WE'RE A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS OVER 60 YEARS OLD IS LOCATED IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE 3M PROPERTY. SUMMIT OAKS IS ACTUALLY THE OLDEST SUB-DIVISION ALONG THE RESEARCH BOULEVARD CORRIDOR WEST OF MOPAC. FIRST HOUSES WERE BUILT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE EARLY 1960S BEFORE ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL OFFICE DEVELOPMENT OCCURRED. SINCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ESTABLISHED, WE HAVE SEEN CONSTRUCTION ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. WE HAVE FOUND THE ZONING RESTRICTIONS ON BUILDING HEIGHT AND BUILDING SETBACK ARE IMPORTANT FACTORS IN MINIMIZING IMPACTS TO OUR PROPERTY. LIKEWISE, HAVING RESIDENTIAL BUFFER ZONES THAT ARE UNDISTURBED AS PROVIDED EFFECTIVE SHIELDING FROM THE SURROUNDING OFFICE BUILDINGS, WHEN THE 3M AMTRAK IS AN ANNEX INTO THE CITY OF AUSTIN IN 1976, ZONING OF THE INTERIM ZONING [00:35:01] OF INTERIM AA WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1980. THE SUBJECT TRACK IS REZONED TO OFFICE AS PART OF THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE AREA. THEN THE OLD ZONING WAS CHANGED TO ELLA LIMITED OFFICE. WHEN THAT CATEGORY WAS ADDED TO DESIGNATE DEVELOPMENT, PREDOMINANTLY SERVING NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITY NEEDS IN 1989, THE OWNERS OF THE SUBJECT TRACK PROPOSED A REZONING OF THE PROPERTY FROM ELO TO L I LIMITED INDUSTRIAL THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PROPERTY OWNER AGREE TO THE CURRENT LA ZONING THAT INCLUDED RESTRICTIONS IN A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY COMBINING DISTRICT. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE AGREEMENT AT THAT TIME PROVIDED THE PROPERTY OWNER SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN ALLOWABLE, IMPERVIOUS COVER, BUILDING COVER AND FLOOR AREA. WE CONTINUE TO FEEL THAT THE RESTRICTIONS AND THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WHERE AN EQUITABLE AGREEMENT FOR AGREEING TO THE RELAXED ZONING RESTRICTION, ONE OF THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY LIMITS SIDE OF BUILDINGS TO 40 FEET, THIS LIMIT MAINTAINED THE PREVIOUS BUILDING HEIGHT UNDER THE PRIOR LOE ZONING. WE CONSIDER THE 40 FOOT LIMIT COMPATIBLE AND COMPLIMENTARY AND SCALE AND APPEARANCE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE GRODDECK CORPORATE PARK OFFICE BUILDINGS IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF SUMMIT OAKS, NONE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS SURROUNDING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS OVER 40 FEET TALL WITHOUT THE 40 FOOT HEIGHT LIMITATION. THE PROPOSED REZONING WILL ALLOW CONSTRUCTION THAT DETRACTS FROM THE LIVABILITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUR PROPERTY VALUES RESTRICTIONS TWO IN THREE CONTAIN A LIST OF 11 USES THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY PROHIBITED UNDER LOI ZONING, WHICH THE PRIOR PROPERTY OWNER AGREED TO RESTRICT IF ALLOWED THE CURRENTLY PROHIBITED USES WITH IMPACT OR NEIGHBORHOOD WITH OBJECTIONABLE NOISE, ODORS, LIGHT POLLUTION, AND TRASH. ALSO, WE BELIEVE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY FOR USES SUCH AS AUTOMOTIVE SALES, AUTOMOTIVE, RENTAL SERVICE, ET CETERA, BUT DAMAGE OUR PROPERTY VALUES RESTRICTION. NUMBER FOUR, THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAYS ADDRESSES LIMITATIONS ON THE TRAFFIC VOLUME FROM THE PROPERTY. WHILE WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO UPDATE THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, WE OPPOSED THE REMOVAL OF THE EXISTING RESTRICTION WITHOUT A FINALIZED UPDATED STUDY TRAFFIC CONGESTION ALONG THE NORTHBOUND SERVICE ROAD OF RESEARCH BOULEVARD IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM ON WEEKDAY AFTERNOONS CARS BACKED UP BUMPER TO BUMPER GOING NORTHBOUND FROM DUVALL TO OAK KNOLL DRIVE THE SERVICE ROAD NARROWS TO TWO LANES AT THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE 3M PROPERTY TWEET COURT IS THE ONLY EXIT FROM SOME FROM SEMINOLE OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD ONTO RESEARCH BOULEVARD. RIATA TRACE PARKWAY AND THE FREEWAY RAMPS ALL INTERSECT THE SERVICE ROAD WITHIN THE DISTANCE OF ABOUT 400 YARDS. WE THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC AT THESE LOCATIONS SHOULD BE THOROUGHLY STUDIED SO THAT THE ROADWAYS AND TRAFFIC PATTERNS CAN BE OPTIMIZED BEFORE ANY REZONING OR PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT. WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR MORE OFFICE SPACE IN NORTHWEST AUSTIN. WE CONSIDER OFFICE DEVELOPMENT TO BE THE PREFERRED USE OF THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. HOWEVER, THERE NEEDS TO BE A BALANCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND ADDITIONAL OFFICE DEVELOPMENT THAT RECOGNIZES THE VALUE OF ADJACENT HOUSING. WE REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THE ZONING CHANGE AND MAINTAIN THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY RESTRICTIONS ON BUILDING HEIGHT AND PROHIBITED USES A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS IN THE ENTIRE 50 PLACE. 50 PLUS ACRE DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENT PRIOR TO ELIMINATE ELIMINATING THE EXISTING CONDITIONAL OVERLAY RESTRICTION THAT REFERS TO THE PRIOR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. THANK YOU MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND I'M PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN NEXT UP IS MICAH KING FOLLOWED BY STEVEN MOLINA, ASHLEY MOLINA, KELLY, WARREN, WARREN, HOFF, NELDA BRIGGERMAN AND SO FORTH. SO, UM, MICAH CAN, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MADAM VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. UH, MIKEY KING WITH HUSH BLACKWELL ON BEHALF OF THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARDS. IF YOU COULD, UH, SOMEONE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN MY PRESENTATION IS UP. SURE. BEAR WITH US JUST ONE MINUTE. OKAY. [00:40:20] IT'S COMING UP NOW, SWEETIE. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU, ANDREW. AND YES, THERE IS A PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THEY CAN, MR. RIVERA AND VICE CHAIR. UM, MIKEY KING ON BEHALF OF THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL BOARDS. UH, IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE TWO, PLEASE, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE BASIS FOR OUR CONCERNS, WHICH IS PRIMARILY TO DO WITH TRAFFIC. SO WE ARE JUST UP THE FEEDER ROAD, UH, DOWNSTREAM, UH, OF THE 3M PROPERTY. AND WE ARE SMACK DAB BETWEEN AN OFF RAMP FROM 180 3 ONTO THE RESEARCH BOULEVARD, FURNISH ROAD, AND AN ON RAMP, UM, TO GET BACK ONTO IT. DURING NON COVID TIMES, WE HAVE ABOUT 525 TO 550 EMPLOYEES, AND SENATE'S IN OUR BUILDINGS. AND, UM, SO THIS IS A BIG CONCERN ALREADY, UH, IN TERMS OF NAVIGATING THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC, UH, TO GET OFF OF 180 3 AND BACK ONTO IT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S NO WAY FOR, UM, PEOPLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THIS AREA. THIS IS A VERY LANDLOCKED AREA, UH, THE ROADS AND THE SENATE FOLKS NEIGHBORHOOD DON'T CUT THROUGH. UH, SO WE CAN GO TO SLIDE THREE, PLEASE. WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. IT'S NOT JUST THIS ZONING CASE, BUT HOW IT TIES IN TO THE OVERALL REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS LARGER TRACH. AND THE APPLICANT SAID THAT ALREADY BY RIGHT, THERE CAN BE, I THINK, TWO AND A HALF MILLION SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE DEVELOPED ON THIS PROPERTY. AND OUR QUESTION IS, WHY DO YOU NEED ANY MORE, UM, LOOKING AT THE TRIP GENERATIONS, UM, PROJECTIONS, WE HAVE 16,000 UNADJUSTED TRIPS, AND THEN THERE'S A FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT REDUCTION, BUT IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS REALLY APPLICABLE IN THIS SITUATION. SO ON SLIDE FOUR, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE REDUCTION IS FOR THINGS LIKE BICYCLE PARKING AND SHOWERS, A BICYCLE REPAIR STATION, BUT THE CIA AND THEN THE CIA REPORT ACTUALLY SAYS THAT THERE IS NO SIDEWALK OR BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THIS PORTION OF THE FURNITURE ROAD. AND SO IT'S AN INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS PLACE TO BIKE. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S NO PLAN TO ADDRESS THAT. I, YOU GO TO SLIDE FIVE. OUR CONCERNS, UH, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, HAS TO DO WITH ALL OF THE TRAFFIC. THAT'S LIKE VISITING 180 3, ALL OF THE 3M TRAFFIC ACTS FROM THE RESEARCH BOULEVARD. ONE OF THE TWO DRIVEWAYS FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT WILL BE UNRESEARCHED AND ALL OF THIS ON THE OAKS FOR THE DENTAL TRAFFIC FLOWING PAST THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL, BOARD PROPERTY, AND, UH, HAVING A SOLID WALL OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL MAKE IT MORE DANGEROUS TO TRAVERSE. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAININGS AT THE TASP OFFICES. PEOPLE COME FROM THROUGHOUT THE STATE. THEY'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA OR THE SPECIAL TRAFFIC CHALLENGES THAT THEY WILL FACE. FINAL SLIDE, PLEASE. WE'RE ASKING THAT THE CEO REMAIN IN PLACE, ESPECIALLY AS HAS TO DO WITH HEIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND NEXT IS STEVEN MOLINA, THEN ASHLEY MOLINA, THEN KELLY WARM HOFF OR WARN HOFF AND THEN NELDA BRGGERMAN. SO STEVEN MOLINA AND THEN ASHLEY MELINA, ARE YOU READY? YES. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AWESOME. THANKS. YEAH, I THINK OUR CONCERNS ARE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE IMPACT ON THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ALLOWING HIGHER HIGH RESTRICTIONS, BUT THEN ALSO JUST TO KIND OF ECHO WHAT STEPHEN AND MICHAEL HAVE SAID IS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT, UM, YOU KNOW, INCREASING TRAFFIC, NOT ON THAT PORTION OF RESEARCH, BUT ALSO DUVALL WEST COUNTY AREA WHERE THERE'S AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RIGHT THERE, STARTING VERY DIFFICULT TO TAKE A LEFT OUT OF THAT INTERSECTION. UM, TEXTILE HAS ALREADY DETERMINED. THERE'S NO ABILITY TO PUT A LIGHT IN THERE GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO THE INTERSECTION OF 180, BASICALLY 180 300 BALL RIGHT THERE. IT'S TOO CLOSE. UM, SO MY CONCERNS ARE WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC, NOT ONLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEN THE ABILITY FOR [00:45:01] RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND GET OUT AND ALSO EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND GET OUT. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT A THROUGH FARE RIGHT NOW, UH, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE PLANS FOR IT TO BE A THROUGH FARE. UM, SO LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THE CONCERNS ARE A CHARACTER AND LIMITING THE HEIGHTS BUILDINGS, AND THEN JUST THE IMPACT, UH, THE TRAFFIC, WHICH IS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, NOT GREAT IN THIS AREA, WHAT THIS COULD POTENTIALLY DO THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN NEXT IS ASHLEY MOLINA FOLLOWED BY KELLY WARM HOUSE AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. I THANK EVERYONE. I AM NOT AS GOING TO BE AS ELOQUENT AS STEVEN OR MICAH, UM, BUT WANTED TO ECHO SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXPRESSED REGARDING TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE IN ATLANTA. UM, WEST CAL IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY ENTRIES AND EXITS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL, MUCH LIKE STEVEN WITH THE TWEED NEIGHBORHOOD SUMMIT OAK. UM, WE ALREADY HAVE CONCERNS. WE HAVE ELEMENTARY AGE CHILDREN AT ATTEND DAVIS ELEMENTARY, AND, UM, WE ALREADY HAVE CONCERNS WITH EATING DOWN WITH COW. I JUST TRAFFIC ON WEST COUNTY IN GENERAL, WHILE OUR CHILDREN ARE WALKING OR RIDING THEIR BIKES TO SCHOOL. UM, THIS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC SUMMARY, IT'S EXPECTED TO INCREASE THE TRAFFIC PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE AREA. SO I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. UM, AND I KNOW MY HUSBAND MENTIONED HAVING CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, OUR LOCAL FIRETRUCKS AND AMBULANCES GETTING, UM, THROUGH, AND WE DO ALSO HAVE A FIRE STATION RIGHT NEXT TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND DO BOMB. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN KELLY HOFF AND THEN NELDA BRGGERMAN AND THEN MARY KAY TIERNAN TIERNAN. I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE MS. WENT OFF ON THE TELECONFERENCE. OH, OKAY. CIRCLE THAT THEN. UM, NOW THE BRUEGGEMAN, ARE YOU THERE? AND IF NOT, UH, MARY KAY TIERNAN. AND IF I'M SORRY, I PRINTED THIS OUT AND I'M ACTUALLY, I JUST, I'M IN A FUNKY FONT. SO IF I'M MISPRONOUNCING YOUR NAMES, CAUSE THE RS THAT ENDS AND THE AMS ALL LOOK THE SAME. SO, UM, NAILED THE RUDERMAN. ARE YOU THERE, IF NOT, WE CAN ALWAYS CIRCLE BACK MARY KAY TIERNAN AND PLEASE IDENTIFY YOUR SIDE, MARY KAY TIERNAN. THIS IS MARY KAY CANADA. GREAT. OKAY, GREAT. AND I, OKAY. I JUST WANTED, UM, TO, UH, VOICE MY CONCERN ABOUT THE, UM, PLANNING THAT'S BEEN DONE REGARDING THE INGRESS AND EGRESS OF THE TRAFFIC FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM, I LIVE IN ANGUS VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WALK MY CHILDREN UP, UM, CAL PASS EVERY DAY TO DAVIS ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SUPPOSEDLY 10,000 EXTRA CARS THAT ARE GOING TO DUMP ONTO CAL PATH EVERY DAY. IF THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES FORWARD AS PROPOSED. SO I WAS HOPING THAT YOU ALL WOULD CONSIDER REQUIRING THEM TO HAVE THE INGRESS AND EAT RESEARCH BOULEVARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, KRISTEN MCCONNELL AND FOLLOWED BY CHRISTINE MCCONNELL OR TERRAN EVERS, ERICSSON AND KAREN EVERSON AND THEN RICHARD BEAN. OKAY. SO IT WAS KRISTEN MCCONNELL THERE AND DON'T WORRY, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO PEOPLE THAT, UM, I DIDN'T SPEAK UP. I'M CIRCLING NAMES. OKAY. UM, AND WHO IS THIS? MY NAME IS KRISTEN MCCALL. OKAY. HI, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. UH, I LIVE IN THE SUMMIT OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR NINE YEARS. I OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE 3M PROPERTY NEXT [00:50:01] TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT WILL ALLOW DEVELOPMENT THAT DETRACTS FROM AND CONFLICTS WITH OUR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, THE REQUESTED REZONING THAT ALLOWS 50 FOOT TALL BUILDINGS. AND I'M FRIDAY OF CURRENTLY RESTRICTED USES WILL ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO TRAFFIC HAZARDS ON THE NORTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD OF RESEARCH BOULEVARD. I MEAN, DO ALL ROAD AND OPEN ALL DRIVE. I BELIEVE THAT THE EXISTING 40 FOOT HIGH LIMITATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS OF USES ON THE PROPERTY ARE NEEDED TO PROVIDE HARMONIOUS TRANSITION BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF LAND, SUCH AS RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS OR BUILDINGS AT DIFFERENT HEIGHTS AND SCALES YOU AND REDEVELOPMENT ALONG US. 180 3 SHOULD COMPLIMENT EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, LARGE OFFICE BUILDINGS AND RETAIL DEVELOPMENTS DISTURBED NEARBY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH GLARE, FROM LIGHTING NOISE, FROM VEHICLES AND DUMPSTERS AND LITTER, NOXIOUS FUMES FROM IDLING VEHICLES ENTERING AND EXITING THE PARKING AREA. IT CAN BE A HEALTH HAZARD. THIS IS THE SUMMER SUMMIT OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT IN THE 1960S. OFTEN AREA OF PLANNING STUDIES AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANS HAVE MADE IT A PRIORITY, MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROTECT THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER. I BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT ZONING MUST BE MAINTAINED FOR OUR PROTECTION, A REQUEST THAT YOU NOT DENIED. IS THAT ANY CHANGE? THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN TARYN EVERETT, SIN FOLLOWED BY KAREN EVERSON AND RICHARD BEAN. AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO HIT STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. IS THAT CORRECT? ANDREW? I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE THEM ON THE LINE. I'LL TRY TO REACH OUT. OH, OKAY. I'LL CIRCLE. OKAY. RICHARD BEAN, ARE YOU THERE FOLLOWED BY ROBBIE ROBINSON AND THEN BEAU PERRY. SO RICHARD BEAN, ARE YOU THERE AND IF NOT, UM, UH, ROBBIE ROBINSON. OH, HI. I'M SORRY I SPOKE OVER YOU. IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF AGAIN. UH, SURE. MY NAME IS RICHARD BEAN AND I LIVE ON CONRAD ROAD AND THE SUMMIT OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY WEST OF THE PROPERTY. UH, I'D LIKE TO STATE MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND THE IMPACTS OF REZONING. THIS 3M PROPERTY. THE NORTHBOUND SERVICE ROAD OF RESEARCH BOULEVARD ALREADY HAS VERY HEAVY TRAFFIC AT THE INTERSECTION OF RESEARCH AND DUVALL ROAD. THE AFTERNOON TRAFFIC CAUSES LONG DELAYS DUE TO THE HEAVY VOLUME THAT GOES THROUGH THERE. ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FROM THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 3M PROPERTY WILL MAKES US EVEN MORE OF A PROBLEM. UH, NORTH OF BED INTERSECTION, THE SERVICE ROAD NARROWS DOWN FROM THREE LANES TO TWO LANES RESTRICTING THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC, UH, AT THE LOCATION OF THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE PROPOSED, UH, REZONING TRAFFIC THAT ENTERS THE 3M DRIVEWAY WILL SLOW TO MAKE A RIGHT-HAND TURN AND OBSTRUCT THE FLOW OF THROUGH TRAFFIC ON THE SERVICE ROAD, PARTICULARLY IN THE MORNINGS. AND THE AFTERNOON TRAFFIC IS SLOW MOVING AND BUMPER TO BUMPER ON THE SERVICE ROAD, WHICH WILL GET WORSE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE 3M PROPERTY. TWEET COURT IS NORTH OF THE 3M DRIVEWAY AND IS THE ONLY ACCESS INTO AND OUT OF THE SUMMIT OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD, MAKING A RIGHT-HAND TURN OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ONTO THE SERVICE ROAD IS CURRENTLY VERY CHALLENGING, ESPECIALLY IN THE PERIOD OF TIME IF THE AFTERNOON CONGESTION. AND IT'S ALSO CHALLENGING WHEN THE TRAFFIC IS FREE-FLOWING BECAUSE THE SPEED LIMIT IS 50 MILES PER HOUR AND OFTEN DRIVERS EXCEED THAT SPEED LIMIT. SO IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO PULL OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SAFELY. UH, CURRENTLY WHEN WE DO, UH, PULL OUT OF SOME OF THE OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE TO TIME OUR RIGHT TURN WITH THE GAPS BETWEEN VEHICLES IN THE RIGHT LANE OF THE SERVICE ROAD. AND WE CURRENTLY RELY ON THE SIGNAL, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT DUVALL ROAD TO INTERRUPT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND PROVIDE A REASONABLE CHANCE TO TURN OUT IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD VEHICLES LEAVING THE 3M PROPERTY, WE'LL FILL THOSE GAPS AND MAKE IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT AND DANGEROUS FOR THOSE TURNING OUT. IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE TWEET COORD INTERSECTION CARS USING THE 180 3 EXIT RAMP FOR OAK KNOLL DRIVE CROSS RIGHTWARD, ONE OR MORE LANES AT THE SERVICE ROAD TO REACH THE DRIVEWAYS FOR THE OFFICE BUILDINGS AND TO MAKE A RIGHT-HAND TURNS INTO RABBIT TRACE PARKWAY AND OAK KNOLL DRIVE. AND THAT SAME SECTION OF THE SERVICE ROAD VEHICLES WE'VE LEFT LEFTWARD ACROSS ONE OR MORE LANES TO MERGE ONTO THE 180 3 NORTHBOUND ENTRANCE RAMP DRIVERS PULLING OUT. IF RIATA TRACE OFTEN ATTEMPT TO VEER OR CROSS STRAIGHT ACROSS ALL THREE LANES OF THE SERVICE ROAD TO REACH THAT ENTRANCE RAMP, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FROM THE 3M PROPERTY WILL ADD TO AN ALREADY CHAOTIC AND DANGEROUS, UH, STRETCH OF ROAD. [00:55:01] UH, MY NEIGHBORHOOD'S BEEN UNABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS HAS BEEN PERFORMED RECENTLY AND, UH, TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF CAPACITY AND SAFETY OF THE RESEARCH BOULEVARD SERVICE ROAD BETWEEN DUVALL AND OAK KNOLL. THE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES EXPECTED FROM 3M DEVELOPMENT WILL AGGRAVATE AN ALREADY BAD SITUATION. I DON'T THINK THE REZONING REQUEST SHOULD BE APPROVED WITHOUT A COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND TRAFFIC FORECAST ALONG THE SERVICE ROAD BETWEEN DUVALL AND OAK, NO, INCLUDING THREE INTERSECTIONS OF TWEED COURT RIATA TRACE AND OAK KNOLL. UH, LASTLY, UH, I THINK THERE ARE MITIGATION OPTIONS THAT SHOULD BE EVALUATED, INCLUDING A ONE, A DECELERATION LANES SOUTH OF THE 3M DRIVEWAY, TWO ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY BETWEEN THE 3M PROPERTY. AND RIATA TRACE THROUGH THE RIATA CORPORATE PARK, THREE WARNING LIGHTS AND REDUCED SPEED LIMITS ALONG THE NORTHBOUND SERVICE ROAD. AND LASTLY REDUCED DEVELOPMENT DENSITY ON THE 3M PROPERTY. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO MY CONCERNS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN NEXT IS KAREN KAREN, KAREN EVERTON, OR, OH, I'M SORRY. WE SKIPPED THOSE NEXT IS ROBBIE ROBINSON FOLLOWED BY BEAU PERRY FOLLOWED BY GAYE THOMPSON. SO ROBBIE ROBINSON, ARE YOU THERE? AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. I AM HERE. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ROBBIE ROBINSON. I'M MY FIVE-YEAR RESIDENT OF THE ANGUS VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LIVE OFF OF WEST CAL ABOUT MAYBE HALF A MILE FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SITE AT 3M. AND FIRST I'D LIKE TO ECHO THE CONCERNS OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN SOME THAT OAKS, UM, THE, UH, THE NEED FOR THE, THE TIA TO BE COMPLETED AND SHARED SEEMS PRETTY OBVIOUS. I, I WOULD THINK BEFORE ANY, UM, DECISIONS SHOULD BE MADE ON, ON, ON THE REZONING. I'M NOT TO BE PRESUMPTUOUS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY MY FEELING AFTER LISTENING TO OUR NEIGHBORS THERE. AND THEN, UH, I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT STEVEN AND ASHLEY ON THE PARENTS HERE IN ANGUS VALLEY HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE A DAUGHTER IN SECOND GRADE, AND IT'S ALREADY NERVE WRACKING TO RIDE OUR, OUR BIKES DOWN CAL PATH, UM, OR BACK FROM SCHOOL AT DAVIS, WHICH IS JUST ACROSS THE STREET ADJACENT FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. AND, UM, IT'S ONLY GOING TO OBVIOUSLY BECOME MORE CONGESTED AND, AND, AND MORE FRAUGHT. ONE, ONE POINT. AND I, I JUST SUPPORT EVERYONE WHO HAS SPOKEN OUT AGAINST THE REZONING. I DO WANT TO SAY MY, MY WIFE AND I HAVE DISCUSSED RECENTLY THAT IT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP HERE. I DON'T THINK THAT SINCE WE MOVED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FIVE YEARS AGO, THE 3M PROPERTY HAS NOT BEEN OPERATIONAL OR IF SO, IT WAS AN EXTREMELY REDUCED. AND NOW IT'S DORMANT. SO W WE'RE TH TH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SITE, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, IT'S PRODUCING ZERO TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW, AND WE STILL HAVE TRAFFIC ISSUES, IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OUTLINED BY, BY EVERYONE HERE. AND SO ANYTHING ELSE IS GOING TO BE A NET GAIN AND TO TRAFFIC, A POTENTIALLY MASSIVE GAIN, UM, ON RESEARCH OBVIOUSLY, BUT ALSO PERHAPS ON, ON CAL PATH, WHICH HAS RESIDENCES ON IT. SO DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, THERE, THERE ARE HOMES WITH CHILDREN. SO WE'RE, WE'RE EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT, ABOUT THE TRAFFIC FIRST AND FOREMOST, UM, IN ADDITION TO SUPPORTING THE CONCERNS OF OUR, OUR OTHER NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN NEXT IS BEAU PERRY FOLLOWED BY GAY THOMPSON, DAN WHITLAM, AND STACY PETERSON. SO BEAU PERRY, ARE YOU THERE? AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES THEN. ARE YOU THERE MR. PERRY? AND IF THE MR. PERRY, IF YOU'RE NOT BITTER, OH, LAYS ON ANDREW, JUST A REMINDER, UH, PARTICIPANTS, UH, SELECT STAR SIX. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT WAS DARK. SEX IS NOT WORKING. UM, FEEL FREE TO CALL BACK INTO THE NUMBER THAT WAS PROVIDED. [01:00:02] UM, SO IF BEAU PERRY, IF YOU'RE NOT THERE, I'LL GO ONTO GAY THOMPSON AND GAY THOMPSON. ARE YOU THERE? YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES GAY THOMPSON. AND IF NOT, WE WILL GO WITH, UH, DAN WHITLAM. ARE YOU THERE? DAN? WHAT LIFT? AND I HEAR A VOICE. YES. MA'AM YES MA'AM PLEASE, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF. OKAY. COMMISSIONER SAYING DAN WEIGHTLIFT MEMBER OF THE ANGUS VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR IVANA BOARD OF DIRECTORS. I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE IVANA BOARD ANGUS VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'M SORRY. NEIGHBORHOOD SPANS FROM THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE 3M PROPERTY TO THE RAILROAD CROSSING, UH, TO THE EAST. UH, THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THE VEGAS VALLEY SUBDIVISION, UH, FROM THE CITY OR STATE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS FROM THE NORTH EAST OR WEST, ALL RESIDENTS OF ANGUS VALLEY ARE THERE 750 HOMES HERE MUST LEAVE OR ENTER THE SUBDIVISION VIA DEVOLVE DEVOLVE ROAD. AND THERE ARE FOUR ACCESS POINTS. WEST CAL PATH CARRIES ABOUT 40% OF THE TOTAL TRAFFIC VOLUME. UM, BRIEFLY STATED ABOUT OPPOSES THE REZONING OF PROPERTY OF 11 7 0 5 RESEARCH BOULEVARD ROAD, NORTHBOUND AUSTIN, UH, 7 8, 7 2 7 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS, THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, WHICH THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO LIVE FOR FURS IN RESTRICTION. NUMBER FOUR TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT Y'ALL HAVE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT TONIGHT. IT WAS PREPARED BY WATSON HALL AND MCNAMARA TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS IN FEBRUARY OF 1989. UH, THAT 1989 IMPACTS ANALYSIS AS YOU'VE HEARD IS MISSING. AND NO ONE'S BEEN ABLE TO RELOAD TO LOCATE IT. AND BECAUSE THAT, THAT 1989 TA MIGHT HAVE SIT AND HAD MIGHT'VE HAD STIPULATIONS, PRECLUDING, OR CALLING FOR ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC CONDITIONS THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE PROPERTY. IN QUESTION, WE BELIEVE THAT A NEW TIA NEEDS TO BE CONDUCTED AT A MINIMUM TO ESTABLISH WHAT THE BASE CONDITIONS ARE TODAY AT THE TIME OF FILING, UM, AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION, UH, OR DISREGARDING WAS FILED. THE REQUIREMENT FOR A TBI WAS WAIVED BY CITY STAFF WITH A NOTATION THAT THE CIA WOULD BE SUBMITTED WITH THE MASTER SITE PLAN FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE LARGER 3M CAMPUS. HOWEVER, THE FUTURE SITE PLAN DOESN'T HAVE A GUARANTEED SUBMISSION DATE. IN OTHER WORDS, IT COULD BE SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE SUCH A SITE PLAN IS SUBMITTED AND CONDITIONS TODAY COULD HAVE CHANGED DRASTICALLY. THAT'S MORE IN THE THRESHOLD OF LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT DEVELOPER MAY HAVE TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT THEY ARE PROPOSING. UH, ANY PIA MUST EXAMINE BOTH THE EXISTING AND THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC CONDITIONS TO SHOW HOW TRAVEL IS IMPACTED AND THE COST. THEY DON'T HAVE THE TA THE 1989 TIA. THEY MAY BE RECEIVING UNFAIR CREDIT, UH, BASED ON UNDOCUMENTED EXISTING CONDITIONS TODAY. UM, THEY PROBABLY DON'T KNOW WHEN THE MASTER SITE PLAN WILL BE SUBMITTED WITH A TIA FOR THE MASTERSON 3M SITE. UH, WE INSISTED THAT THEY ESTABLISH AT LEAST WHAT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE TODAY. NOW WE, THIS IS KIND OF CONFUSING BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE MOST RECENT PIA AND DETERMINED THAT IT IS ACQUIRED AND NEEDS TO BE RESUBMITTED. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE AUSTIN'S ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION DENY THIS REZONING REQUEST. UM, I HAVE STARTED TIMING PEOPLE, SO THAT WAS THREE MINUTES. SO, UM, YOU CAN FINISH UP YOUR LAST SENTENCE AND THEN WE'LL GO ON TO OUR NEXT PERSON. YES, MA'AM. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE AUSTIN'S OUGHT TO GET PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED THIS REZONING REQUEST. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN NEXT IS STACY PETERSON, AND THEN I'M GONNA CIRCLE BACK TO PEOPLE. STACY PETERSON, ARE YOU THERE STAR SIX FOR MUTE UNMUTING? HELLO, MY NAME IS STACY PETERSON. OKAY. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS STACY PETERSON AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE ANGUS VALLEY AREA AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU FOR HEARING US TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR GOING AHEAD WITH THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN PREPARING FOR WHAT SEEMS LIKE FOREVER. [01:05:02] WE ALL KNOW THAT THE REZONING OF THIS 5.6 SMALL PARCEL OF LAND IS JUST A PRELIMINARY STEP TO THE EVENTUAL REDEVELOPMENT OF THE ENTIRE 57 ACRE SITE. I'VE LIVED HERE FOR YEARS. I KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED HERE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 40 YEARS, IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE CHANGE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE THAT LOVELY BIG AREA WITH THE DEER AND THE TREES TO SUDDENLY CHANGE. SO WE'RE ALL A LITTLE TREPIDATIOUS. WE HAVE TREPIDATION ABOUT IT. UM, WHAT WE DO RESPECT THE FACT THAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. THERE IS SOME VERY HIGH HIGH-END LOOKING OFFICE SPACES, AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT IN NORTHWEST AUSTIN. HOWEVER, WE HAVE MANY CONCERNS AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME HERE FOR ME TO SAY ALL OF WHAT THEY ARE, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU SOME GENERAL CATEGORIES. OF COURSE, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL BUFFERING. UH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS SPACE BEHIND OUR HOUSES IN THE PLATTE NOTES OF TWO, 2012, THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A 50 FOOT RESIDENTIAL BUFFER, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE DEVELOPER IS TALKING ABOUT PUTTING ROADS THERE ALL AROUND IT. WITH LITTLE CARS RUNNING AROUND LIGHTS, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT FLOODING. UM, SUDDENLY THE CHANGE HAS, THERE'S BEEN A GREAT CHANGE TO THE FLOODING, UM, PLAN THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN TELLING US ALL ALONG SUDDENLY, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE TRENCHES AND THAT'S VERY CONCERNING. WE HAVE VERY SERIOUS WORRIES OVER ENVIRONMENTAL CONTAMINATION. THAT'S UNDER THE 3M PROPERTY AND HOW WILL THAT BE HANDLED AND HOW WILL THAT BE MONITORED? AND FINALLY, OF COURSE, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC. UM, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO SAY A LOT ABOUT THAT. IT'S VERY OBVIOUS THAT BOTH IVANA AND SUMMIT OAKS IS WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS. WE JUST DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO HANDLE IT. SO FINALLY, LET ME JUST SORT OF QUICKLY SUM UP BY SAYING, WE REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THIS REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE UNTIL A LATER TIME. IT WOULD, IN WHICH A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY OF THE TRAFFIC ESPECIALLY IMPACTS FROM THE ENTIRE 50 PLUS ACRE DEVELOPMENT CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENT PRIOR TO ELIMINATING THE EXISTING CONDITIONAL OVERLAY. UM, FINALLY IN THE VERY LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS EVEN THOUGH WE'VE PREPARED AND PREPARED FOR MONTHS, IT SEEMS OTHER THAN ONE SHORT MEETING IN MARCH IN WHICH WE ESSENTIALLY LISTENED TO WHAT THEY HAD PLANNED. WE'VE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH ANY DEVELOPER. UM, AND, AND I JUST I'VE BEEN TIMING PEOPLE. AND SO YOU'RE, YOU'VE GOT, YOU CAN DO ONE LAST SENTENCE AND, UM, CAUSE THAT WAS THREE. YES, MA'AM NO DEVELOPER HAS ACTUALLY BEEN IDENTIFIED TO US AND WE WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH A DEVELOPER AND DISCUSS OUR CONCERNS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME, KATE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN I'M GOING TO CIRCLE BACK AND I KNOW THAT THE EVERETT'S ENDS ARE ON THE LINE. SO, UM, TERRAN, UH, EDMONDSON, AND THEN KAREN EVERETT SIN, AND YOU WILL EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES, HELLO OR NOT. HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THIS? THIS IS TARA EVERTON. UH, I LIVE IN ANGUS VALLEY. UM, I'M GOING TO, I DON'T WANT TO GET BEAT. UM, SO I'M GOING TO TRY AND MAKE THIS QUICK, UH, SURE. APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING HERE TONIGHT. UM, AND DUVALL IS, SHOULD BE AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY. IT IS NOT, IT'S A ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. THEY JUST RECENTLY STOLE SOME FROM DUVALL TO PUT IN BIKE WAYS AND, UM, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC. THAT IS THE ULTIMATE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THIS AREA. UM, IT'S THE, IT'S AN ODDLY SHAPED PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT SITS ON THE CORNER AND, UH, TO IT BE HARD TO ACCESS, UH, DUVALL AT THE INTERSECTION WITH TEX DOT'S 180 3, UH, BECAUSE IT'S SO CLOSE, WHICH MEANS YOU'RE PUTTING THEM OUT ON PATH, WHICH IT ALREADY HAS A DRIVEWAY AND ACCESS, BUT COUNT PATH IS A LITTLE TWO LANE RINKY-DINK, UH, UH, NO CURB AND GUTTER ROADWAY. UM, AND THE, THE, THE OVERLAY THAT THAT IS ON THIS IS, UH, PROTECTIVE OF, OF TRAFFIC. AND I GUESS THAT'S MY, MY BIG POINT IS I THINK, UH, MY REQUEST TO Y'ALL [01:10:02] IS THAT WE LOOK AT IT COMPREHENSIVELY. I THINK THIS IS NOT A, JUST A REGULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S TO BE DEVELOPED. THIS IS IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND SIMILAR TO THE, UH, TO THE TRIANGLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN GOT FROM THE STATE AND DEVELOPED AND, AND HAD A DEVELOPER WORK. AND THAT TURNED OUT BEAUTIFULLY, BUT IT HAD A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER INPUT. AND MY REQUEST IS THAT WE LOOK AT THIS COMPREHENSIVELY AND NOT KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD BY JUST CUTTING UP A SMALL PIECE AND REZONING THAT, AND THEN JUST TRICKLE DOWN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, KAREN EVERETT SIN, AND ALSO CHARLIE FORD, HE WAS ON, HE WAS IN ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM, BUT HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN . SO, UM, KAREN EVENSON YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. I DON'T THINK SHE'S HERE, BUT SHE DOESN'T LIKE IT EITHER. OKAY, THEN THANK YOU THEN. I'M CHARLIE FORD. ARE YOU AVAILABLE? AND IF YOU ARE, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, CHARLIE FORD. OKAY. OKAY. THEN I'M GOING TO CIRCLE BACK TO A FEW OTHER PEOPLE, UH, NELDA, UH, KELLY. OH, NO, NO. YEAH, SURE. COMMISSIONER WEIGHS ON ADVAIR. I BELIEVE. UH, MR. FORD IS ON MR. FORD, IF YOU'RE PROCEEDING. GREAT. OKAY. MR. FORD, GOOD TO SEE YOU OR HEAR YOU, MR. FORD. I SEE THAT YOU ARE UNMEETED. UM, BUT IF THERE'S A ISSUE, UH, FEEL FREE TO CALL BACK IN, UM, MR. FORD, AND IF NOT, I'LL JUST GO ON TO, UM, I'LL JUST READ SOME OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT, UM, HAD TO SKIP BY THE FIRST TIME KELLY WARM HOFF. NOW THE BRIGHAMAN BEAU PERRY OR GAY THOMPSON. ARE YOU THERE? AND IF SO, YOU CAN SPEAK HERE. OKAY. WHO'S THAT THIS WAS TRUE. IT HUNG UP. YES. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S YES, IT HUNG UP WHEN I DID START SIX, LITERALLY HUNG UP. I HAVEN'T MISSED A WORD OF THIS WONDERFUL MEETING TODAY. UH, ANDREW, ANDREW, IF YOU WOULD, WOULD YOU PUT MY SLIDES UP FOR ME PLEASE, SIR. WE'LL HAVE HIM UP IN JUST A MINUTE. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR NOT THOSE PONYING ANY FURTHER. I DO THINK IT WOULD HAVE SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT THAT JUST A COUPLE OF PEOPLE WERE OUT AND YOU COULD CANCEL. AND THEN I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR MEMBERS THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO US. CAUSE WE CERTAINLY REACHED OUT TO YOU AND TAKING TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY. AND I'VE OFTEN COMPARED THIS TO A DAVID AND GOLIATH SITUATION AND IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT GOLIATH HASN'T SHOWN UP FOR THIS BATTLE YET. AND SO I WANT TO REITERATE STACY'S THING WHERE WE'RE STILL REACHING OUT HER HAND, BUT WE'RE NOT GETTING THERE. UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS, AND I'M I'M ON CONRAD ROAD AND THE SITE PLAN, THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN HAS PARKING GARAGES ALL ALONG AND EVERYBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THAT SLIDE, THAT IS WHAT I WAKE UP TO IN THE MORNING. IN FACT, I HAVE NO CURTAINS ON THE, UM, BACK OF MY HOUSE AND I LET THE SUN WAKE ME UP. SAME THING HAPPENS AT NIGHT WHEN THE MOON IS SETTING. YES, I'M VERY, VERY FORTUNATE. UH, BUT THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT THERE AS WELL. ANDREW, IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE TWO, THIS IS OF COURSE ARTIST'S REPRESENTATION OF WHAT WE THINK IT WILL LOOK LIKE. I WANT THE COMMISSION TO KNOW THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENCE OF UNDISTURBED VERSUS SETBACK AS WELL. AND THERE'S A HUGE, HUGE DIFFERENCE. UM, [01:15:03] THE OBVIOUSLY WHERE THERE'S DEER AND IF WE COULD GET TO THAT NEXT SLIDE, WE CAN SEE THAT, UM, WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE HERE. I'M OBVIOUSLY NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC. THAT SHOULD BE RELIEVED. IT'S BEEN SAID, BUT THERE IS WHAT I'M PLANNING TO LOOK AT. IF YOU GO THROUGH WITH THIS AND, UH, 3M REFUSES TO NEGOTIATE WITH US, CAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT. AND YOU CAN PICTURE THAT GOING ALL ALONG CONRAD ROAD. AND IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALMOST AN EMINENT DOMAIN THING BY THE COMMERCIAL SECTOR, UM, TAKING OVER MY PROPERTY HERE, BUT, AND ANYBODY WANTS TO JUST LOOK INTO MY BACKYARD, CERTAINLY CAN AT THIS POINT, AND THAT'S NOT JUST ME, IT'S ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN CONRAD ROAD. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE A ROAD BETWEEN US AND THAT BUILDING. AND WHAT ARE THE LIGHTS GOING TO BE LIKE AT, YOU KNOW, 10:00 PM THROUGH 5:00 AM? ARE THEY GOING TO BE ON, ARE THEY GOING TO BE ON ME? WE HAVE NO IDEA. AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY IDEA FROM THE DEVELOPER. AND THE REASON IT'S A CEO IS FOR THIS VERY REASON. IT'S GONE FROM L S E YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY ON THIS PART OF THE PROPERTY AND THERE'S A REASON FOR IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT KELLY WAM HOFF IS ON THE LINE. SO CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND SPEAK AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, KELLY HI. YES, THIS IS KELLY . I LIVE IN ANGUS VALLEY AS WELL. AND I'M CALLING TO ALSO, UM, TRY AND GET YOU ALL TO, UM, DENY THIS OVERLAY CHANGE. UM, PRETTY MUCH THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE, THAT IT SEEMS THAT, UH, A HOTEL PERHAPS MIGHT BE TRYING TO GET BUILT AND PUT IN THERE. THAT'S ONE OF THE ONLY THINGS, UM, FROM THE ORIGINAL LIST, BUT THE OVERLAY FROM THE LIST OF OTHER REASONS, WHY OF USAGE, UM, THE, THERE WAS LIKE WELDING AND CAR MANUFACTURING AND ALL OF THIS OTHER STUFF, EXCEPT THE HOTEL THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL CONDITION IS NOW GONE WITH THIS REQUEST. UM, WE HAVE HOTELS ALL AROUND OUR AREA. WE HAVE PROBABLY WITHIN A MILE THREE TO FOUR PLUS THE DOMAIN. UM, I JUST DON'T SEE WHY THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY AND I THINK IT WOULD TAKE AWAY AND DETRACT FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FIELDS. UM, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S REALLY THAT MUCH OF A NEED FOR IT IN THAT AREA. ANYWAY, ALSO THE TRAFFIC IN FLOODING AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IT'S HORRIBLE. MY SON WAS ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN A HORRENDOUS CAR WRECK THIS PAST NOVEMBER. HE WAS ON HIS BIKE, RIDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND STRUCK BY A GARBAGE TRUCK. UM, SO FOR ME, IT'S SORT OF PERSONAL. WE DON'T NEED MORE TRAFFIC. THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET TO THAT DEVELOPMENT THROUGH ALL THE STREETS. UM, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER DENYING THIS REQUEST UNTIL MORE INFORMATION IS KNOWN AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE MORE INPUT INTO THE FLUIDITY OF WHAT IT MIGHT BECOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. AND I'M SO SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR SON AND, UM, THEN, UH, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, I BELIEVE BEAU PERRY AND GAYE THOMPSON HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET. AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE AND IF NOT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANDREW, DO YOU KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE IS STILL WAITING TO SPEAK TO OUR COMMISSION LIAISON RIVERA? I DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEAS BECAUSE ON THE LINE. OH, OKAY, GREAT. OKAY. SO WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UM, KEN DOES HAVE A REBUTTAL. OH, I'M SORRY. YES, THE REBUTTAL. OKAY. UM, AMANDA SWORE YOU WILL HAVE, AND I BELIEVE IT'S SIX, THREE OR SIX MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. THREE MINUTES. THREE MINUTES. OKAY. THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. UH, I JUST WANTED TO HIT ON THE TOP PIECES THAT WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ONE BEING NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER. SO THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE FULLY COMPATIBLE, [01:20:01] FULLY CONSISTENT WITH COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. THE EXISTING PLOT NOTES ARE GOING TO REMAIN THE TREE BUFFER THAT EXISTS ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WILL CONTINUE TO BE THERE. UM, BUT THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE HEARD ABOUT WITH TRAFFIC, THIS IS A CONVERSATION ABOUT LAND USE, UM, NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, BUT BECAUSE WE HEARD SO MUCH FROM THE BEGINNING, THIS PROJECT HAS CONDUCTED APRIL TIA ON THE LARGER PROJECTS. THERE WERE A LOT OF COMMENTS, UM, REQUESTING THAT. AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE INITIAL REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT TO ALLOW OUR TIA, TO BE COMPLETE THAT TIA AND WITH ALL THE APPENDICES WAS SENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVE THAT ASKS FOR THAT, UM, ON THE 16TH OF JUNE. AND WE DID RECEIVE CONFIRMATION THAT THEY RECEIVED THAT TIA IN THIS INDICES. UM, THIS PROJECT IS CONSTRUCTING SIGNIFICANT TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA. WE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT TRANSPORTATION TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THIS PROJECT IS FULLY FUNDING, A PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THAT CROSSING. THE PROJECT IS PAYING OVER $318,000 AT THE TIME OF SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. THE FIRST SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE PROJECT IS COMPLETELY RECONFIGURING AT A COST TO ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS. THE INTERSECTION AT CAL-PASS AND DUVALL. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES AND WILL PAY OVER $6.2 MILLION IN TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT. AS I SAID, THIS TIA WAS CONDUCTED FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROJECT. UM, AS I MENTIONED IN MY ORIGINAL PRESENTATION, THIS PROJECT CAN BE BUILT WITHOUT THIS REZONING CHANGE. WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS A REGION ZONING CHANGE TO ALLOW FOR A BETTER PROJECT TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL BUFFERS, TO ALLOW FOR A BETTER EXPERIENCE ALONG THE 180 3 TO ALLOW FOR THE PRESERVATION OF TREES FOR EVERY, UM, AS PART OF THE PROJECT. UM, ONE, UH, ANOTHER PIECE THAT CAME UP WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON ALONG 180 3 AND THE REDUCTIONS THAT WERE TAKING TAKEN AS PART OF THAT, UH, TIA CTR, MA, AND TECHS THAT HAVE ALREADY MOVED FORWARD WITH THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE AND PRESENTS ALONG 180 3 IN THAT SHARED USE PATH. UM, AND THEN I WOULD ALSO JUST MENTION THAT, AS I SAID, THIS PROJECT CAN BUILD OVER 2.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET. WE'RE PROPOSING 1.2 MILLION. UM, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WOULD BE WILLING TO LIMIT THAT AND WORK WITH THEM ON ADDITIONAL PIECES BETWEEN NOW AND CITY COUNCIL. BUT I WOULD JUST SAY IF WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF A MAJOR ARTERIAL AND A HIGHWAY, THIS IS WHERE OFFICE USES BELONG. UM, AND WE HAVE CONDUCTED THE ENTIRE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. AND THEY HAVE APPROVED THAT TIA IN CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT IS TO BE BUILT, UM, BOTH FOR THE IMMEDIATE IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN FOR THE ADDITIONAL, UM, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THAT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL COME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AMANDA. AND NOW WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ANY OTHER MOTIONS THAT YOU ALL WOULD WANT TO MAKE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER WOODY, A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. THANK YOU. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BRAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND IT'S UNANIMOUS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I'M GOING TO GO TO THE LITTLE HAND ICON AND, UH, COMMISSIONER BRAY, RIGHT. AND IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE HEARING ME, PLEASE LET ME KNOW MY HEADPHONES. AREN'T ALWAYS THAT GREAT, BUT TRY TO AVOID SOME OUTSIDE NOISE. UM, UH, I WANTED, I HAD A LOT DIFFERENT THOUSAND QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. UH, I WANTED TO ASK THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TO THE WEST OF TWEET COURT AND CITY STAFF MIGHT ALSO BE INTERESTED. HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT PUTTING IN A TRAFFIC LIGHT FOR TWEAKED COURT? UM, IS THAT POSSIBLE AND AN ACCESS ROAD AND THAT'S KIND OF SPOT. AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT POSSIBLY THAT, UH, UM, TRAFFIC MITIGATION, THE FEES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT I PAID FOR. OKAY. WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO HIT, UM, ANSWER THAT? UH, I KNOW AMANDA, YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD BROUGHT A TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER AND ALSO I WAS WONDERING IF SHERRY COULD ANSWER THAT TOO. I JUST DON'T KNOW. WHO'S JURISDICTION FROM ACD ON THE LINE. OKAY. OKAY. WHY DON'T WE GO TO CURTIS FIRST GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS CURTIS BEATTY. I WORK WITH THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. I'M CURRENTLY THE ACTING DEVELOPMENT OFFICER FOR TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. UH, 180 3 IS ACTUALLY UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF TECH STOCKS. THEY CONTROL ALL DRIVEWAY LOCATIONS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THE TRAFFIC, UH, RIGHT NOW WOULD NOT MEET WARRANTS TO HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL INSTALLED AT TWEAKED IN THE FRONTAGE ROAD. THERE'S [01:25:01] VERY SPECIFIC WHEN PART OF THAT TECH STOCK HAS IN REGARDS TO THE INSTALLATION OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS, THIS LOCATION WOULD NOT MEET THAT. THEREFORE THEY WOULD NOT RE APPROVE THE INSTALLATION OF A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THIS LOCATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, AND, UM, OH, BACK TO RONNIE. UM, SINCE YOU'RE THE TRANSPORTATION PERSON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? UH, THANK YOU FOR CALLING ON ME. UH, WHAT CURTIS BEATTY STATED IS, IS ACCURATE. ADDITIONALLY, THAT LOCATION OF THREE COURT TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO AN EXIT RAMP TO THE HIGHWAY, UH, AND T TEXTILE AMONG THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS TO WARRANT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UH, WOULD IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, NEVER ALLOW A T INTERSECTION AT A FRONTAGE ROAD COULD BE SIGNALIZED. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, THEN I SEE I'M COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. YOU HAVE YOUR LITTLE MINIATURE HAND UP ALL. UM, GO AHEAD. IT'S THE COMMISSIONER? SORRY. I THOUGHT HE HAD IT. OH, I'M SORRY. YEAH, I, I DO HAVE OTHER THOUGHTS BACK AND LET SOMEONE ELSE GO FIRST IF THEY WANT TO GO AHEAD. YEAH, GO AHEAD. SURE. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, FOR ME, IF IT'S THIS KIND OF CASE THAT W WHICH WAS FOR THIS SPECIFIC REQUEST, UH, THE HEIGHT VARIATION, UH, I, I WOULD, SORRY, KIND OF GOING WITH US TOGETHER. UH, WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE DIFFERENT CONCERNS HERE. UH, I KNOW ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP A LOT WAS LIKE FLOODING, UH, SOME BORDER, UH, CONCERNS WITH LIKE SETBACKS, UH, UH, I SEE HEIGHT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN OFTEN EASILY LET US BALANCE THOSE OTHER THINGS OUT. SO IF YOU CAN BUILD HIGHER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THIS WIDE AND GET THE SAME IMPACT. AND SO I'M VERY INCLINED TO AT LEAST REMOVE THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT, BECAUSE I TH I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO GET MORE OF A WIN-WIN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION, UM, IT, WHERE IF THEY'RE ALLOWING, UH, THE HIKE YOU GO HIGHER, AND MAYBE THAT'S ALLOWING THE, THE SPACE, UH, THE BORDER AROUND THE SITE TO BE, UH, LESS OF AN IMPACT ALLOWED FOR, UH, TREES TO BE PRESERVED, ALLOW FOR LESS THAN PREVIOUS CUPBOARD. UH, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT A SMALL CITY ANYMORE. THIS AREA USED TO BE THE OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN. IT IS NO LONGER THE OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN IT'S, UH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, ANY DEVELOPMENT. WE DON'T A LOT HERE IS GOING TO BE PUSHED FURTHER OUT AND PROBABLY INCREASED TRAFFIC OVERALL. UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PROBABLY EVEN, IT GIVES US TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE PEOPLE ARE TAKING THE SERVICER TO THE HIGHWAYS, TOO CONGESTED. AND WITH THAT AREA OF TOWN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS IN CEDAR PARK AND A LOT OF THE AREAS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN 180 3. SO, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, W WHAT, WHAT AUSTIN'S CHANGING AND W I THINK EVERY WINDOWS THAT, UH, THE, THE CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE ANY SLOWER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ON THE MAP. UH, WE'RE NOT THE SAME CITY. WE WERE 30 YEARS AGO WHEN THIS WAS FIRST, UH, ZONED. UM, SO I DO SUPPORT, UH, THE REQUESTS IN THIS CASE. UM, I DID HAVE, I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE LEFT. MY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAD IS SORT OF DEPENDABILITY. UH, I, UH, THAT HAS A LOT OF HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, RIGHT. AND THAT KIND OF LIKE RADIATES, UH, FROM THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. SO THAT WOULD, UM, IT'S, IT'S THERE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THAT, THE HEIGHT LIMITATION, HOW MUCH OF THAT HEIGHT LIMITATION WOULD BE CANCER? LIKE IF WE'RE ALLOWING, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN 40 FEET, UH, THAT 40 FEET IT'S STILL PROBABLY WOULD BE LIMITED WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, NEAR THE PROPERTY, UH, IN TERMS OF LIKE THE VISUAL IMPACT FOR THE NEIGHBORS. UH, BUT, UH, COULD STAFF SPEAK TO THE, WHAT THE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS WOULD BE, UH, LIKE WHERE WERE THEY W 40 FEET, LIKE, WHERE WERE THAT HIGHER THAN 40 FEET BE ALLOWED IN TERMS OF DISTANCE WITH COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. SHERRY, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT OR ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. I KNOW I HAVE A CHART SOMEWHERE THAT SHOWS THAT, AND I'M GOING TO MAKE, I'M MAKING A NOTE RIGHT NOW TO SEND IT TO FOLKS, VICE CHAIR. THIS IS AMANDA. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE A STAB AT IT IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO, OR WE CAN, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT DISCONNECTED. SO PER THE, UH, COMPATIBILITY TO REGULATIONS [01:30:01] THAT ARE PART OF CODE TODAY, IF THE HEIGHT WAS REMOVED, IT WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OF A TRIGGERING STRUCTURE, OR FROM SINGLE FAMILY THAT YOU COULD GET TO ABOVE 40 FEET. YOU WOULD ULTIMATELY GET TO THE HEIGHT OF 60 FEET. YOU WOULD NEED TO BE 300 FEET AWAY FROM THE TRIGGERING PROPERTY LINES. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN I SEE THAT COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BRAY. OKAY. AND THEN I SEE COMMISSIONER THOMPSON HAS HER LITTLE HAND UP. YES. UM, I HAVE, UH, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS FOR STAFF AND I ACTUALLY, I, I DID ASK THIS IN WRITING AND I, I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED THE RESPONSE, BUT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT WHY SOME SPECIFIC, UM, CONDITIONS WERE REMOVED FROM, FROM YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE OVERLAY, LIKE REMOVED AUTO REPAIR AND WASHING AUTO WASHING. I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHY THOSE SPECIFIC THINGS WERE ADJUSTED AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION. THERE WAS REALLY NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THE CHANGE COMMISSIONER. ARE YOU, UH, ADDRESSING THE STAFF? YES. YES. MA'AM YES. OKAY. I WAS OFF LINE FOR A FEW MINUTES. I JUST GOT BACK INTO THE CALL. SO COULD YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? SURE, SURE. I SAID, I APOLOGIZE IF I'VE MISSED THIS. CAUSE I ACTUALLY SUBMITTED THIS QUESTION IN WRITING, BUT I, UM, IN THE BACKUP MATERIALS, THERE REALLY WASN'T A JUSTIFICATION FOR THE CHANGE IN THE CATEGORIES THAT WOULD BE, UM, LISTED IN THE OVERLAY. AND SPECIFICALLY, I WAS CURIOUS WHY REPAIR AND AUTO WASHING WERE ELIMINATED FROM, UH, THE OVERLAY THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING COMMISSIONER. THEY WEREN'T ELIMINATED FROM OUR RECOMMENDATION. THEY JUST WERE NOT ADDED TO OUR RECOMMENDATION. THE STAFF AGREED TO PROHIBIT USES THAT WE FELT WERE DETRIMENTAL ADJACENT TO A SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN THOUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE SEPARATED FROM THIS PROPERTY BY COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, THE USES OF AUTO USES ARE APPROPRIATE ALONG A MAJOR HIGHWAY AT THE INTERSECTION OF AN ARTERIAL, BUT THEY, THEY ARE IN THE CURRENT OVERLAYS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THEY WERE NOT PART OF THIS. THEY WERE NOT PART OF THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. I GOT WHY JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHY WE FELT COMPATIBILITY ALREADY PROVIDES A SETBACK FROM COMMERCIAL USES AND RESIDENTIAL USES. AND WILL WE RECOMMENDED PROHIBITING THE MAJOR COMMERCIAL USES ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY TO PROVIDE A TRANSITION. OKAY. UM, AND THANK YOU. AND I GUESS THE NEXT QUESTION, I HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, I JUST, I I'VE HEARD JUST SOME DIFFERENT INFORMATION ABOUT THIS 50 FOOT BUFFER. AND CAN I ASK IF THE INTENT IS TO HONOR THE 50 FOOT BUFFER, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO AWAY WITH? OR CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PLANS FOR THAT BUFFER? YES. LET ME, LET ME TAKE A STAB AT IT. AND MY CLIENTS CAN HOP IN IF I, IF I MESS IT UP. SO THE BUFFER FOR THE PLAT IS A 50 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK, AND WE ARE INTENDING TO COMPLY WITH THE 50 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK THAT IS REQUIRED. OKAY. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, FROM ONE OF THE RESIDENTS, UM, THEY'RE SEEING PLANS THAT INDICATE THAT WOULD IT BE MAYBE DRIVEWAYS INSTEAD OF BUILDINGS? IS THAT RIGHT THERE, THERE WOULD BE DRIVEWAYS ALLOWED ON THERE, BUT DRIVEWAYS WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. SO COMPATIBILITY HAS A DRIVEWAY SET OF A MINIMUM OF 25 FEET FROM A PROPERTY LINE, BUT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A DRIVEWAY WITH 25 FEET IN THE 50 FOOT, WHICH IS THE BUILT AT BACK. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. AND THEN MY FINAL ONE, YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE, UM, POTENTIAL FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILD-OUT AND THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, UM, OR HOPING FOR A SMALLER FOOTPRINT. AND I'M JUST CURIOUS, UH, AS COMMISSIONER BRAY MENTIONED, THIS HEIGHT DIFFERENTIAL 40 TO 60 FEET, HAVE YOU DONE A CALCULATION ON THE IMPERVIOUS COVER DIFFERENCE IN THE TWO SCENARIOS? IF YOU'RE, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE RESTRICTED TO 40 FEET, WHAT YOUR FOOTPRINT WOULD BE VERSUS IF [01:35:01] YOU'RE ABLE TO BUILD A 60. THAT IS, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. SO I'M GOING TO LET MY CLIENTS REAL QUICK ANSWER. I HAVE NOT SEEN A SPECIFIC SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE. SO WITH THE 60 FEET, IT ALLOWS FOR A MORE FUNCTIONAL PROJECT, WHICH ALLOWS US TO STRENGTH THE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGES OR THE FOOTPRINTS, AND CREATE A SOLID BUILDING THERE. AND THEN I, I KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN MENTIONED A COUPLE TIMES ABOUT THE DRAINAGE AND THE FLOODING, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS COMPREHENSIVELY BEING LOOKED AT AND ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE OVERALL REDEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT. OH YEAH. IF ANYONE DOES HAVE THAT INFORMATION, I'D LOVE TO HEAR IT BECAUSE I, I BELIEVE THIS IS IN THE RECHARGE ZONE AS WELL. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT FOR EVERYONE. OKAY. IF YOU GIVE ME JUST ONE MINUTE, I CAN, UH, I CAN GET THAT PURSE. I HAVE HALF OF THE NUMBERS. IF YOU GIVE ME A MINUTE OR TWO, I CAN GET REAL NUMBERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S IT? UM, VICE CHAIR. CABASA OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, UM, THEN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER CONCERNS? I GUESS I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE, OKAY, GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER DANCLER AND THEN COMMISSIONER GREENBERG. UH, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR, UM, TRANSPORTATION STAFF, UH, ABOUT THE TIA. UM, AND I WANTED TO KNOW IF THE MEMORANDUM FOR THE LARGER, UH, PORTION OF THE LARGER TRACK, UH, DID WEAVING AND QUEUING ANALYSIS. UM, PART OF MY CONCERN ABOUT THIS IS THAT STRETCH IN, IMAGINE AUSTIN ON US HIGHWAY 180 3 IS CONSIDERED, UH, A, A BAD AREA FOR TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. AND WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT. AND YET WE'RE ADDING 13,000 TRIPS FROM THE LARGER TRACT. I'M NOT SURE IF THE 2,500 IN THE APPLICATION WAS INCLUDED AND THERE'S AN ADJACENT PROJECT THAT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE. THAT'S ADDING 1,900 TRIPS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING 17,000 TRIPS TO A THREE LANE SERVICE ROAD THAT I DON'T SEE THAT WE'RE FULLY DOING THE ACCELERATION LANES ON. UM, I DIDN'T SEE, UH, OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK THEY MIGHT'VE ADDRESSED IT. SO I'M REALLY LOOKING AT THOSE USES. AND I HAVE TO ADMIT, UM, THERE, I THINK THIS WAS A LITTLE OVER ZONED TO BEGIN WITH. SO CAN YOU COMMENT ON, UM, WHETHER IT DID THE TIA DID A WEAVING AND QUEUING ANALYSIS? YES. THIS IS CURTIS AGAIN WITH THE OFFICE OF TRANSPORTATION, UM, FOR THE ZONING APPLICATION OF THE 5.5 ANCHORS. NO, IT WAS NOT CONSIDERED AT THAT TIME. UH, LAND USES AND DENSITY WAS NOT IDENTIFIED. SO THAT WAS INDEPENDENT OF OUR DECISION NOT TO REQUIRE TIA FOR THE LARGER SITE PLAN, WHICH IS SEPARATE. UH, WEAVING WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY LOOKED AT QUEUING IS CONSIDERED ALL DRIVE WAYS, THOSE IN AND OUT AND HAVE THE APPROPRIATE INTERSECTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO INDICATE THAT THE FRONTAGE ROAD AGAIN IS CHECK STOTTS JURISDICTION. AND FOR THIS SITE PLAN, TXDOT DECIDED THEY DID NOT NEED TO HAVE A TIA CONDUCTED BY THE APPLICANT FOR THEIR REVIEW, NOR HAS TECHSTOP ASKED FOR THEIR REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION DRAFT TIA SUBMITTED TO ATD. WERE THEY PART OF THE SCOPING DISCUSSIONS? THEY DECLINED TO REQUIRE A TIA FOR THIS SITE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER DANCLER. AND IF NOT, I'LL GO ON TO COMMISSIONER GREENBERG. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GREENBERG. UM, I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS. I REALLY WAS READY TO MAKE COMMENTS. UM, SO IF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS FIRST, I'LL DEFER THAT TO SHARON. ANY MORE QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER COMMISSIONER THOMPSON'S QUESTION IF THAT WOULD BE COOL. OKAY, GREAT. THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. SO IF THE HEIGHT CAP WAS KEPT INTO PLACE, WE WOULD BE LOSING ABOUT 60,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE, WHICH LIKELY WOULD END UP COMING [01:40:01] BACK IN PROBABLY A TWO STORY BUILDING. SO YOU'D HAVE ABOUT 31,000 SQUARE FEET OF ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT WOULD NEED TO GO ONTO THE GROUND. SO YOU'RE LOSING ABOUT 31,000 SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS COVER BYTES. UM, GRANTED ME ADDITIONAL HEIGHT. AND I WOULD JUST ALSO ADD IF I HEARD YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE AUTO USES AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COMMISSION DESIRES TO ADD IN, UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD NOT OBJECT TO THOSE PROHIBITED USES ON THAT PROPERTY. THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR. OKAY, THEN, UM, MISSION AND GREENBERG. UM, OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I THINK THIS WAS INAPPROPRIATELY ZONED. I MEAN, INDUSTRIAL IS NOT APPROPRIATE NEXT TO NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN THIS WAS DONE 30 YEARS AGO, BUT WE CANNOT BACK THAT ZONING. UM, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO APPROVE, UH, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENTS WHEN THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY STATED THAT THEY HAVE BY RIGHT ENTITLEMENTS FOR TWO AND A HALF MILLION SQUARE FEET. I JUST DON'T REALLY SEE WHY THEY NEED THIS ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENT. UM, THEY HAVE PLENTY TO WORK WITH THE, UM, I DO APPRECIATE THE STATEMENT THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO CONTINUE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, BUT THERE'S KIND OF TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY. AND WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS IS THAT THEY FEEL LIKE COMMUNICATION WAS CUT OFF WHEN THEY ASKED TOO MANY QUESTIONS. I DO KNOW THAT THEY, UM, WOULD LIKE NOT HAVE NO, UM, UH, LIKE NO BUILDING BUFFER, BUT THAT THEY ACTUALLY WANTED TO NO DISTURBANCE BUFFER, UM, AND HAVE THAT EXPECTATION, AT LEAST ON THE REST OF THE SITE. THAT'S NOT THE, BUFFER'S NOT ON THE PLAT FOR THE SITE, THAT'S UNDER ZONING CONSIDERATION, BUT, UM, I THINK THIS IN ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENT IS NOT NEEDED FOR WHAT IS PLANNED THE, UM, BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL. I I'D LOVE TO SEE THE APPLICANT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS COMMUNICATE TO, UM, MAYBE GET THAT NO DISTURBANCE BUFFER AND, UM, SOME ASSURANCES ABOUT LIGHTING AND DUMPSTER HOURS, THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE THEIR LIFE BETTER. I THINK THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM IS JUST A TRAFFIC PROBLEM WITH THE ENTITLEMENT THAT'S THERE. THAT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO BE SOLVED. I MEAN, THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE LIMITED, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, LIMITED ACCESS INTO EACH OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS AND, UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM. I MEAN, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. 180 3 ALREADY HAS TRAFFIC PROBLEM. THEY HAVE TO CROSS SEVERAL LANES. UM, THERE, I, I DON'T SEE THE FIX OF JUST DENYING THE ZONING, BUT APPROVING THE ZONING ONLY MAKES IT WORSE. SO I WOULD MOVE TO DENYING THE ZONING REQUEST MOTION TO DENY THE ZONING REQUEST. IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KING MOTION BY COMMISSIONER GREENBERG? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, IF NOT, WE CAN JUST GO ON TO THE VOTE REWORKING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. OKAY. COMMISSIONER KING. UH, KARA, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO, UM, JUST COMMENT REAL BRIEFLY ON MY SECOND, YOU KNOW, I, I DO AGREE THAT, UM, THAT THESE ADDITIONAL, UH, USES THAT ARE NOW GOING TO BE ALLOWED IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THE REQUEST. YOU KNOW, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. IT'S IN THE RECHARGE, IT'S IN A FLOOD PRONE AREA HERE. UM, AND SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND ALSO A BIG CHANGE IS MOTEL HOTEL USE, AND YES, I UNDERSTAND IT'S RIGHT BY A MAJOR, YOU KNOW, HIGHWAY THERE AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A VERY INTENSIVE USE. AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I TH I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THESE CHANGES IN USES AND TO ADDRESS OTHER CONCERNS. SO I WOULD PREFER THAT THEY GO BACK AND GET WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COME BACK AGAIN WITH A BETTER PROPOSAL. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THIS, UH, THIS MOTION. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND ALL BEN, JUST STEP IN AND SAY THAT, I THINK THIS IS JUST A REALLY STRANGE AND UNIQUE CASE BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SUBDIVISION WAS THERE LONG BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE WAS, AND YOU WOULD HAVE EXPECTED MAYBE MORE SUBDIVISIONS AND YOU WOULD HAVE ALSO SUSPECTED, EXPECTED BETTER TREATMENT FROM THE STATE OR THE COUNTY, WHOEVER TURNED, UM, RESEARCH BOULEVARD. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR INCLUDING THE, UM, THE, NOT ONLY THE MAPS, BUT, UM, THE, WHAT IT USED TO LOOK LIKE AND [01:45:01] ACCESS POINTS. AND SO I THINK, SO I THINK THIS IS JUST IT'S IT'S LIKE, AND NOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SUBDIVISION ONLY HAS ONE ACCESS POINT AND IS SURROUNDED BY INCOMPATIBLE ZONING. AND ALSO JUST REALLY GOT CUT OFF BY 180 3. AND I THINK THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM, AND I WISH THAT THERE WAS MORE THAT COULD BE DONE. AND I ALSO WISH THAT THERE WAS MORE, JUST A BETTER PLAN OVERALL SO THAT EVERYBODY COULD BE HAPPY. AND I'M HOPING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE APPLICANT CAN TALK AND MEET AND COME UP WITH SOME WIN-WINS. SO THAT IS IT. AND THEN COMMISSION, AND I SEE COMMISSIONER RAY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, AND THEN I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER WOODY, ACTUALLY, UM, COMMISSIONER WOODY. YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET. SO I'LL GO TO YOU FIRST AND THEN, UM, COMMISSIONER RAY. SO COMMISSIONER, WOULD HE GO AHEAD? SORRY, I'M GOING TO USE A LITTLE HAND. UM, I DID HAVE A QUESTION, UM, TO THE APPLICANT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE ZONING DOESN'T GO THROUGH THE ZONING CHANGES THAT GO THROUGH, WOULD YOU STILL BE WILLING TO HELP WITH THOSE THAT ADDITIONAL FIXES THAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT FOR THE ROADS AND ANY OF THE TRAFFIC? UH, YOU KNOW, LET'S TRY TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT TRAFFIC. SURE. THIS IS AMANDA FORD. I'M SORRY. YOU BROKE UP A LITTLE BIT ON ME. COULD YOU REPEAT THAT QUESTION PLEASE? I APOLOGIZE. UM, SO, UH, DO YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YEAH. YEAH. UM, SO I WAS, I WAS WONDERING, UM, IF THE ZONING DID NOT, UH, GO THROUGH, WOULD YOU STILL BE WILLING TO HELP, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT WITH ANY OF THE, UH, THE ROAD CHANGES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? SO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS TIED TO ULTIMATELY THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, NOT THE ZONING. SO THE DEVELOPMENT WILL STILL BE REQUIRED TO CONDUCT THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE CONTEMPLATED. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO ESSENTIALLY THEY'LL STILL GET THEM. AND THEN COMMISSIONER, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER WOODY. OKAY. THEN COMMISSIONER RAY, AND THEN COMMISSIONER THOMPSON COMMENT. AND THEN A QUESTION, UM, WITH REGARDS TO TRANSPORTATION, UH, I JUST WANT TO PUT A FRIENDLY REMINDER OUT THERE THAT OUR ROBOT CAPACITY IS NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH OUR POPULATION GROWTH. UM, AND THAT CHANGING THE INTENSITY OF LAND USE AT THIS SPECIFIC SITE IS NOT A CURATIVE FOR THE PROBLEM ON 180 3. UM, WE NEED TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN MULTIMODAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UM, THOSE ARE THE SOLUTIONS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. IT'S NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BE LIKE OUR WEBEX DYESS IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DICTATE THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE HERE. SO WHILE I'M UNDERSTAND THE SAFETY CONCERNS, FOR SURE, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TO LIKE TECH STOCKS, JURISDICTION OF THIS ROAD, WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO SEE HAPPEN REALLY IS NOT UNDER OUR PURVIEW HERE TONIGHT. UM, MY QUESTION THOUGH IS, OKAY, THIS REALLY GOES TO THE APPLICANT. UM, SINCE WE'VE SEEN THAT THERE IS MORE GROUNDS FOR NEGOTIATION THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS EVENING, UM, IS THE APPLICANT WILLING TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD? AND WE COULD HEAR THIS LATER, OR LIKE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE TABLE? UH, YES. THAT WE WOULD MAKE A COMMITMENT IF IT IS, UH, IF THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION TO POST ON THIS AND WE WOULD, UH, BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS OR ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO MEET, TO DISCUSS WHAT TYPE OF COMPROMISES WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS, INCLUDING, UM, USES BUFFERS, THE OTHER COMPONENTS TO IT. WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE AMENABLE TO HAVING THAT CONVERSATION IF WE WERE TO PASS ON THIS. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER RAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THEN COMMISSIONER THOMPSON AND THEN COMMISSIONER BRAY. THANK YOU. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. UM, I JUST ACTUALLY WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE NEIGHBORS AND, UH, THOSE OF YOU THAT TIME TO EDUCATE YOURSELVES AND BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS. IT'S SO IT'S CONFUSING TO ME, I'M SURE IT'S CONFUSING TO MANY OF YOU. UM, I JUST, I REALLY WANTED, I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH THE TURNOUT. I WANTED TO SAY THAT AND SHARE MY EMPATHY. AND UNFORTUNATELY IT SEEMS TO ME, WE'RE NOT DECIDING TONIGHT WHETHER THIS SITE'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED OR NOT DEVELOPED IT IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. AND, AND SO I WOULD JUST [01:50:01] ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO KEEP TALKING AND, AND REALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRADE OFFS HERE ARE AND APPLICANT, THE MORE YOU CAN DO TO DEMONSTRATE, UM, YOUR, YOUR GOODWILL AND, UM, THE REAL IMPACT OF THE HEIGHT AND THE SETBACKS AND KIND OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE STILL IS STILL SOME CONFUSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE VISIBILITY WOULD BE. AND, UM, AND SO FOLKS ARE HAVING TO, UH, REACT TO SOME UNKNOWNS HERE THAT I THINK YOU COULD EASILY CLARIFY FOR THEM. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK INTO THAT AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THE CALCULUS, THE QUICK CALCULATION ON IMPERVIOUS COVER. AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO MINIMIZE FOOTPRINT IN THIS AREA FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS THAT WERE MENTIONED BY RESIDENTS, INCLUDING THE TOXINS IN THE AREA, THE FLOOD PLAIN, THE RECHARGE ZONE. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME REAL OPPORTUNITIES HERE AND CONVERSATIONS THAT NEED TO BE HAPPENING. SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR YOUR WORK AND JUST A COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, BRAY AND THEN COMMISSIONER, WHAT DO YOU, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN? OKAY. COMMISSIONER GRAY. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AGAIN OR IS THAT HAND A GHOST HAND. OKAY. OKAY. OH, AND SO WAS THAT, THAT WAS CONTRIBUTED. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER KING. YEAH. UH, I DEFINITELY WANNA, UH, SECOND ONE, EVERYTHING THAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER THOMPSON JUST SAID, UH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM HERE FOR MAKING SOME COMPROMISES, ESPECIALLY, UH, TO ME WITH THE HEIGHT AND THE SETBACKS. AND, UH, I THINK THAT JUST DENYING THE REQUEST SHOULD BE A LOST OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO COME UP WITH SOME OF THOSE TRADE-OFFS THAT, YOU KNOW, KNOWING MAYBE HE WAS PERFECTLY HAPPY, BUT THEY'RE DEFINITELY, UH, I TH I THINK THAT JUST GOING WITHOUT, UM, HAVING A CHANCE TO HAVE SOME TRADE OFFS, THERE WERE JUST LIKELY TO LEAD TO JUST A REDEVELOPMENT, WHICH WITH THE ADDITIONAL PREVIOUS COVER AND NOT ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE KIND OF A LOSE LOSE FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. UM, AND SO I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF THERE COULD BE SOME, UH, DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THAT AND HAVE IT COME BACK TO US. UH, AND YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T REACH A POINT AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT AGAIN THERE, BUT I, I, I'M REALLY GLAD WE GOT TO HEAR THE CASE TONIGHT IN TERMS OF HEARING THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVING TO SPEAK. UH, I WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I HAVE A MAJOR REASON, I GUESS, FOR SO MANY, CAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP AND I KNOW THEY'RE TRYING TO SIGN UP FOR MEETINGS AND, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE MEETINGS IN A ROW AND, UH, THAT'S CAN BE FRUSTRATING FOR PEOPLE. SO I WAS REALLY GLAD TO BE ABLE TO HIT A PUBLIC TESTIMONY TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO, I WOULD, I GUESS I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, UH, UH, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE RIGHT TERM HERE, BUT NOT POSTPONE, BUT, UH, UH, NOT CAUSE NOT MAKE A FINAL RULING TONIGHT AND, UH, DELAY, UH, FOR A FUTURE MEETING, UH, AND GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AN APPLICANT THE TIME TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AND SEE HERE AT WHAT POP RISES CAN BE FOUND. OKAY. I HAVE THEN A QUESTION AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE BY PERMISSION OF GREENBERG AND COMMISSIONER KING. SO WOULD THIS BE A SUBSTITUTE? THIS WOULD BE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION I'M IN AND I'M LOOKING AT OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN, UM, SUBSTITUTE. YES. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, I'LL WOULD YOU REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO IT'S A RECONSIDERATION ON THAT. WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING PIECE OF IT. WE SHOULD, I MOVE TO REOPEN CHAIR, CONVENTION AND LIAISON ANDREW ADVAIR. SO AS PART OF THIS MOTION YOU CREATE, YOU WOULD FIRST HAVE A RECONSIDERATION ON THE CLOSING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO FIRST THE VOTE ON THE RECONSIDERATION AND FOLLOWED BY THE MOTION, WHICH COULD INCLUDE POSTPONEMENT TO A DATE CERTAIN. OKAY. CAN I BELIEVE WE DO NEED A SECOND. OKAY. SECOND. OKAY. SECOND BY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON AND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER. I'M SORRY. BRAY. AND THAT IS THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO, AND WHAT EXACTLY IT, SO IT WOULD BE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC, HEARING A RECONSIDERATION, BUT WE HAVEN'T MADE A, WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON ANYTHING. THERE'S NOTHING TO RECONSIDER BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE A MOTION. WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC AND ALSO WOULD IT BE TO MOTION TO REASSESS? I CAN JUST REOPEN CHAIR AS EVIDENCE IN ACTION. YOU WOULD RECONSIDER THAT MOTION AND THEN HAVE A UP QUESTION, RIGHT? HE'S RIGHT. IT'S NOT HOW WE DID IT TWO WEEKS [01:55:01] AGO. NO. AND ACTUALLY I'M GETTING, I JUST HAVE MY PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE HERE. A RECONSIDERATION IS ONLY IF WE'VE TAKEN A VOTE. IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN THAT'S WE DID, YEAH. OH, A RECONSIDERATION TO CLOSE THE HEARING. OKAY. SO THIS IS ONLY FOR RECONSIDERATION OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC OF, OKAY. NOW I GET IT. I'M JUST SO FOCUSED ON A FINAL DECISION. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD. SO ALL, UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? COMMISSIONER KING? YES. I JUST CLARIFY YOUR, THAT. SO AS I'M UNDERSTANDING THERE'S EMOTIONS, THERE'S A MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT THAT'S THE MOTION. YES. THAT IS THE ONLY MOTION. YES. RIGHT. AND THEN, AND THEN IF WE VOTE TO DO THAT, THEN WE WOULD VOTE. THEN WE COULD THEN MAKE A MOTION, BUT CAN MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS UNTIL A FUTURE DATE OF A FUTURE MEETING YET. OKAY. I WANT TO GET THE LAY OF THE LAND. AND ALSO IF WE WERE TO PROCEED WITH GOING AHEAD AND DENYING IT, DOES THAT STOP THE CASE OR DOES IT, WOULD THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE ON WITH COUNCIL TO COUNCIL WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION? IS THAT IF WE, IF WE DECIDED NOT TO POSTPONE, IF WE DECIDED IF WE VOTE THIS MOTION DOWN. YES, YES, YES. IT'S ENTERTAINING. IT WOULD MOVE ON TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO DENY WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT THAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION TO DENY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, IF YOU VOTED THAT WAY. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO ANY OTHER, OH, COMMISSIONER DANGLER. DO YOU STILL HAVE TO APOLOGIZE COMMISSIONER GREENBERG? WHEN IS THE SCHEDULED FOR COUNCIL COMMISSIONERS? THE CASE HAS NOT BEEN SCHEDULED FOR COUNCIL YET. UM, BECAUSE OF THE POSTPONEMENTS THAT COMMISSION, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSIONER HAD HEARD THE CASE AND MADE A RECOMMENDATION BEFORE WE SCHEDULED FOR COUNCIL. OKAY. OKAY. SO THERE'LL BE AT LEAST AUGUST. IS THAT CORRECT? SHERRY. OKAY. WELL I GUESS, YEAH, YOU DID ANSWER THAT. YES. OKAY. AND, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LITTLE, LITTLE HANDS, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. OKAY. WAS THAT A HAND? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF REOPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND ACTUALLY, LET ME SAY, I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE'VE ALREADY SAT THROUGH A LOT OF PEOPLE AND WE HAD 18 SPEAKERS SIGNED UP OR NO MORE THAN THAT. SO ANYWAY, UM, BUT, UM, SO THAT, I JUST WANTED TO SAY MY LAST COMMENT AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF REOPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. AND IT IS COMMISSIONER KING, COMMISSIONER BRAY, COMMISSIONER RAY COMMISSIONER THOMPSON IN FAVOR AND COMMISSIONER. SO THAT IS SIX AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED. COMMISSIONER ME, UM, COMMAND COMMISSIONER DENTLER AND COMMISSIONER GREENBERG. SO MOTION PASSES OR WAIT 5, 4, 5 MOTION FAILS. I AM NOT ADDING TODAY. MOTION FAILS FIVE TO THREE. AND SO WE'LL GO ON TO THE MAIN MOTION OR, AND THE MAIN MOTION WAS BY COMMISSIONER GREENBERG AND COMMISSIONER CUEING TO DENY THIS. AND I JUST WANT TO REPEAT THAT THEY SHOULD NEGOTIATE AND WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS BEFORE THIS COMES TO COUNCIL, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO NEGOTIATE BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO US. WE CAN JUST DENY IT NOW, WHICH WILL GIVE THE APPLICANT REASON TO NEGOTIATE. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO DENY BY GREENBERG SECONDED BY KING, ALL THOSE PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. AND THAT IS KOBASA GREENBERG, DANCLER KING AND WOODY, ALL THOSE OPPOSED AND COMMISSIONER BRAY, COMMISSIONER RAY, AND ABSTENTIONS. AND THAT IS COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. SO MOTION FAILS BY FIVE TO NO, YEAH. FIVE TO ONE. OKAY. SO IT CAN GO WITHOUT A DECISION OR IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO TRY ANYTHING, BUT I THINK JUST GOING WITHOUT A DECISION AND THEN, [02:00:01] UM, AND THAT'S IT AND OUR ENCOURAGEMENT TO COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT BEFORE THIS COMES TO COUNCIL. RIGHT. OKAY. THAT IS A PLAN. SO NOW ON TO, [B3. Rezoning: C14-2020-0143 - 12121 N. IH 35 Rezoning; District 1] UM, B THREE AND ANDREW ARE ALL THE FOLKS LINED UP OR SHOULD WE TAKE A BREAK CHECK COMMISSION LIGHTS ON I BETTER. I DO HAVE THE STAFF HANDY APPLICANT NEIGHBORHOOD, SO WE'RE GOOD TO GO. OKAY. THANKS. AND THANKS FOR WRANGLING THIS CROWD TODAY. UM, REALLY APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. SO B3 AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE MY AGENDA PULLED UP AND, UM, IT'S KIND OF HARD THE WAY THIS ALL HAS WORKED OUT. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO THE CASE MANAGER IS. I'M JUST GOING. YES. MA'AM. SO HEATHER OH YEAH. HEATHER, ARE THERE, ARE YOU GOOD TO GO? HEY, HEATHER, MS. CHEF, AND I SEE YOU ARE MUTED. IF YOU'LL CONFIRM THAT YOU'RE UN-MUTED ON YOUR PHONE AS WELL. IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, PLEASE CALL BACK IN. OKAY. CHAIR, BEAR WITH US. JUST ONE MINUTE. STAFF IS CALLING BACK IN. THANK YOU. OKAY. MS. SHEFFIELD, SELECT STAR SIX. YEAH. CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LAYS ON AND VERA, UH, IF WE COULD RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES OR 10 MINUTES. OKAY. WHY DON'T WE DO IT FOR 10 MINUTES AND THAT WAY WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT W OH, SO I SEE THAT IT'S EIGHT 11 ON MY COMPUTER, SO 8 21. OKAY. OKAY. RECESS. MY SON'S ALREADY MAD AT ME. YEAH. I KNOW. [02:05:01] I'VE GOT TWO TEENAGERS HERE, ONE VISITING, SO, OKAY. NO, THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE CAN, WE CAN RECONVENE. WE HAVE OUR, AND IT IS 8 26 AND I'M HEATHER WELCOME. AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD ACTUALLY, UM, SEE YOU, BUT, UM, GO AHEAD AND YOU CAN START. SURE. HEATHER CHAPMAN HAS AN IMPLANTING DEPARTMENT IT'S CASE C 14 20 20 0 1 4 3. LOCATED AT 1, 2, 1, 2, 1 NORTH OR REQUEST IS TO GO FROM G R C O TO M S FOUR. IT'S JUST UNDER A 12 ACRE SITE. AND STAFF IS SUPPORTING THE REZONING REQUESTS. THE PROPERTY IS ON EAST SIDE OF BOUNDED BY VFW ROAD TO THE NORTH AND BOWERY TRAIL ON THE SOUTH. THE UNDEVELOPED PARCEL IS GRC. OH. AND THERE THAT CEO'S IS A VERY LONG LIST OF PROHIBITED USES, UH, THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE SITE, UH, FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO ACROSS THE BSW ROAD TO THE NORTH IS THE VFW LODGE. THEN G O C O ALSO ACROSS THE ROAD TO THE NORTH OR TO MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ZONED NF THREE P L IMMEDIATELY EAST AND SOUTHEAST. AND THE REASONING TRACK IS LAND IS ZONED. DEVELOPED WITH DETACHED TOWNHOUSE, CONDOMINIUM PROPERTIES, CROSS BOUNDARY TRAIL TO THE SOUTH IS UNDEVELOPED LAND. THEN GEO ACROSS 35 TO THE WEST IS PROPERTIES OWNED LR. THE TCEQ HEADQUARTERS STAFF IS SUPPORTING THE REZONING REQUESTS FOR ZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH NEARBY MULTIFAMILY AND TOWNHOUSE CONDOMINIUM PROPERTY, OR SEVERAL MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS. UH, IN THIS STRETCH OF . THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THEIR INTENT IS TO CONSTRUCT APPROXIMATELY 330 MARKET RATE APARTMENTS, WHICH WOULD INCREASE THE HOUSING TYPES IN THE AREA AND JUST MORE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, UH, THAT IS BEST PRESENTATION ON AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THERE IS OPPOSITION TO THIS FROM NEIGHBORS, AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, SPEAKING FOR IN FAVOR IS THE APPLICANT, JOHN JOSEPH AND JOHN JOSEPH. YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES AND ALSO THREE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JOHN. YOU HAVE CUT OUT. YEAH. THEY TOLD ME I WAS NO LONGER MUTED. SO MY IS JOHN. I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT, THE OWNER OF THE, UH, THE TRACK ASSOCIATE TRACTORS BEFORE YOU, I'VE GOT ABOUT 18 SLIDES. I WANT TO GO THROUGH FAIRLY QUICKLY. I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE BY NINE. SO I'M GOING TO, IS THAT THE BEST I CAN SLIDE? NUMBER TWO IS A SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY WAS SHOWS YOU WHAT MS. JEFFERSON WAS SHOWING ME TALKING ABOUT EARLIER THAT THE PROPERTY IS MOUNTED ON THE NORTH, BY THE VFW ROAD AND ON THE EAST SIDE, IT'S ALREADY FIVE. HOWEVER, ON THE SOUTH, IT'S ACTUALLY BOUNDED BY A STRIP OF LAND. THAT'S OWNED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND I'LL GET TO THAT HERE IN A SECOND, BUT I WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT THERE ARE TWO TRACKS THAT ARE OWNED BY THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT'S 11.8 45 ACRE TRACKS, WHICH IS 70 TO THE ZONING CASE AT A 9.82 ACRE TRACT, WHICH IS ZONED OFFICE, WHICH WILL BECOME, WHICH YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT AS IT MOVES THROUGH THE SLIDES, THIS SLIDE NUMBER FOUR. AND ARE Y'ALL SEEING THESE SLIDES AS I'M CALLING THEM OUT. YES. THAT'S PROPERTY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ARE YOU, DO YOU SEE SLIDE FOUR, WHICH IS A PROPERTY, IS, IS THAT ONE IN GREEN THAT HAS A YELLOW STRIP AT THE BOTTOM OF IT? YES. IT HAS AN ORANGE STRIP OWNED BY SPRINGS CREEK HOA. AND IT HAS THE NUMBER FOUR. YEAH. THAT'S WHY FOR THAT, THAT ILLUSTRATES THAT THERE'S NO ACCESS FROM THIS TRACK TO BOWERY TRAIL AND THE SAME OBTAINS FOR THE OFFICE TRACK ON THE SOUTH. THERE'S A STRIP OF LAND THAT'S OWNED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO NEITHER THE OFFICE TRACK NOR THE PROPOSED FAMILY TRACK HAS ACCESS TO, TO BOWERY TRAIL. AND THIS IS A SLIDE FIVE IS A ZONING MAP, WHICH SHOWS WHAT HEATHER CHAPMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT THE ZONING. IT CAN BE ACTUAL USES AROUND THE PROPERTY. AND THEN EXHIBIT SIX IS [02:10:01] THE CURRENT ALLOWABLE USES AND THEY ARE A BED AND BREAKFAST ONE AND TWO ADMINISTRATIVE AND BUSINESS OFFICES, AUTOMOBILE AUTOMOTIVE, RENTAL AUTOMOTIVE, REPAIR SERVICES, AUTOMOTIVE SALES AUTOMOTIVE, WASHING COMMERCIAL OFF STREET, PARKING CONSUMER CONVENIENCE SERVICES, CONSUMER REPAIR SERVICES, PEDICABS STORAGE, AND DISPATCH PRINTING AND PUBLISHING RESEARCH WAREHOUSE AND COMMUNITY GARDEN AND URBAN FORM. AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY, ONLY, THE ONLY HE ALREADY USES THAT ARE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY. EVERYTHING ELSE IS EXCLUDED THE ZONING REQUEST, AS WE SAID IN GRC, OH, FOR 330 MULTI-FAMILY UNIT AND SLIDE EIGHT AS A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY AND IN EACH COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. THESE THERE'S TWO LITTLE UNITS THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE OF THE TRACK, WHICH ACTUALLY ARE, UH, IS, UH, IS AN ERROR. THOSE WILL BE MOVED AWAY BECAUSE THIS IS DESIGNED TO MEET CURRENT COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS NO ACCESS TO BOWERY TRAIL AND THAT THE ACCESS IS PROVIDED OFF OF 35. SLIDE NINE IS A, IS THE EXPANSION THAT IS, EXCUSE ME, PROPOSED FOR NORTH AT 35. AND , IT'S HARD TO SEE IT, BUT THE EXISTING ON RAMP TO NORTH AT 35 IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF DECORATES BOULEVARD. AFTER THE, THE CHANGE, THE PROPOSED NORTH, UH, ACCESS TO NORTH AT 35 WILL BE JUST NORTH OF BOWERY TRAIL. YOU CAN SEE IT'S MARKED IS PROPOSED NEW ACCESS. AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE CAN, IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THAT GOING SOUTH THAT'S THE LAST, UM, PLANT IS OWNING A PRODUCT COMMISSION, HEARING THAT THE, WHERE YOU GRANTED THE POSTPONE. BUT, UM, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, UH, OF THOSE SLEEP ASPECTS. DON, IF THEY WOULD ALLOW ACCESS FROM THE SITE 35, THE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT'S ON THE FRONT END CODE DOES NOT NEED TEXTILES, SPACING REQUIREMENTS, BUT THEY HAVE GIVEN US A VERBAL APPROVAL FOR A DRIVE ONTO THE FRONTAGE ROAD. IF THE, IF A VARIANT IS NOT APPROVED BY TXDOT AND THEY DON'T, AND THEY DON'T ALLOW ACCESS TO, UM, AT 35, WE WILL ACCESS VFW ROAD TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET. AND THE, AND THE TRACK WILL NOT TAKE ACCESS AND CAN'T TAKE ACCESS TO BOWERY TRAIL. OH, OKAY. UM, TWO IS JUST THE ANSWER TO QUESTION THREE WILL A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS BE REQUIRED, AND THE TA HAS BEEN DEFERRED TO THE SITE PLAN. IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WILL BE A REQUIREMENT FOR EITHER A NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS OR A TRAFFIC IN BACK IN HOUSE, OR PLEASE PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON WATER AND WASTEWATER CAPACITY. THERE'S ADEQUATE WATER CAPACITY. THERE IS ADEQUATE WASTEWATER CAPACITY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE TRACK. NO OFF IMPROVEMENTS SHOULD BE REQUIRED. AND I'VE GOT AN EXHIBIT THAT'S GOING TO SHOW YOU WHERE THESE IMPROVEMENTS OKAY. THEN. AND, UH, JUST, THERE ARE ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL PAY THE COST OF THOSE IMPROVEMENT QUESTIONS WAS, DOES THE APPLICANT INTEND TO DONATE LAND? SO THE GAP AND THE WALNUT CREEK GREEN BELT TO SATISFY PART-TIME REQUIREMENT, THE QUICK ANSWER IS YES. UH, WE'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH, UH, HARD RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT GONNA BE, LET'S DO THE REST OF THIS ANSWER RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I WANT TO GET TO A COUPLE OF EXHIBITS. IF I CAN. FIRST, UH, THE EXHIBIT 13 IS SHOWING YOU WHERE THE WATER LINE IS LOW ON THE PROPERTY AND 14 SHOWING YOU WHERE THE WASTEWATER LINE IS LOCATED. BOTH OF THOSE HAVE ADEQUATE CAPACITY AS TO SLIDE 16 IS THE OWNER'S OFFICE TRACK. AND THIS IS THE OFFICE CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE DREW IN NEGOTIATION WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, THE GREEN AND THE YELLOW SAY THIS AREA AT THE VERY TOP, UH, THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY IS THE BEGINNING OF THE PARKLAND. AND THE GREEN OF HOLDER GOES AROUND ALL THE WAY DOWN TO WALNUT CREEK. AND THEN OVER TO AT 35, THE YELLOW LITTLE RECTANGLES. THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WANTS FOR SHARED PARKING. AND THE DRIVEWAY IS SHOWN IS GOING TO BE ACCESS DRIVEWAY FOR US AND FOR PARKS. HELLO, HARRY, I'M HAVING SOME NOISE IN THE BACKGROUND. I DON'T SEE YELLOW. YOU'RE HERE THERE AT THE VERY TOP. IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SEE. I GO BACK TO SLIDE 15. IT'S LIKE A YELLOWISH SPRING COLOR. IT'S HOT. YELLOW IS GREEN COLOR ACTUALLY. THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, UH, PARD WANTS. THEY'RE THE PARKLAND THAT BEGAN. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO REACH AN AGREEMENT, DONATE. ALL OF THAT LAND IS IN GREEN AND THAT YELLOW IS SLIME GREEN AT THE TOP, PLUS AN AGREEMENT TO, FOR THEM TO SHARE PARKING WITH US ON THE, I GUESS THAT WAS THE ORANGE COLORED [02:15:01] RECTANGLES. AND THEN TO SHARE THE ACCESS ON THE WITHIN THIS. WELL, THIS, UH, SLIDE 16 IS JUST, UH, TO SHOW YOU THE, THE ROADWAY CONNECTIVITY THAT EXISTS IN THE AREA RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, I SHOULD SAY THE BOARD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TWICE. AND ON BOTH OCCASIONS, THE CONCERN WAS TRAFFIC INSECURITY AND THAT HASN'T CHANGED AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS AND WE'RE SYMPATHETIC. UH, I DON'T, I DON'T, THEY HAVEN'T AGREED TO ANYTHING, BUT WHAT THE OWNER IS SIMPLY OFFERING AND WILL PURSUE AND FUND WITH THE COOPERATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND UPON APPROVAL OF THE ZONING. UH, THE FOLLOWING IMPROVEMENTS SEEK TO REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT TO 25 MILES PER HOUR ON BERRY LANE IN NATURE, AND THEN INSTALL PEDESTRIAN REFEREE JILIN, UM, UH, PERMIT PARKING BY NEIGHBORHOOD ONLY ON BOWERY LANE. AND NATURE'S VAN INSTALLED FEET HUMPS ON NATURE'S BANNED FROM THE NORTH TRAFFIC CIRCLE TO THE SOUTH TRAFFIC CIRCLE. AND ON BERRY LANE FROM ICE 35 FRONT IS TO THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND INSTALL SECURITY CAMERAS THAT HAVE 35, UH, AND THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND BOWERY TRAIL. UH, AND AS I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, WE'VE GOT A GOLDEN GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, WORK A DONATION OF THE CONNECTION OF THE WALNUT CREEK TRAIL, UH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT. AND THE REASON IT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT THE DEVELOPER NEEDS PARKLAND, DEDICATION, PARKLAND FACILITY, UM, AND PARKLAND DEFICIENCY REQUIREMENTS FOR A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. IF THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T OCCUR, THERE'S NO PARKLAND DEDICATION, PARKLAND FACILITY OR PARKLAND DEFICIENCY REQUIREMENTS FOR COMMERCIAL USES. AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO INCENTIVE FOR A TRANSFER. AND SO WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY AND I HOPE THAT THAT, UH, Y'ALL WILL SEE THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, FAVORABLY, UH, AS I SAID, WE CAN TURN THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND, UH, WE REQUEST YOUR, UH, RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL TO THE COUNCIL. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? AND IF NOT, THEN WE WILL GO TO THE LIST OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. AND FIRST ON THE LIST IS TIFFANY CONNOR, TIFFANY CONNOR, ARE YOU THERE? AND YOU'LL HAVE A THREE MINUTES. HELLO, MY NAME IS HERE REPRESENTING THE BOARD. I AM STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS ZONING CHANGE, AS IT WILL BRING AN UNPRECEDENTED IMMENSE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC TO OUR SMALL QUIET POCKET COMMUNITY. THIS 330 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING WILL BRING A MASSIVE TRAFFIC FLOW THAT TRIPLES OUT A MINIMUM, THE AMOUNT OF CARS FROM OUR COMMUNITY OF JUST 108 HOMES. IT WILL DESTROY THE QUIET, PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL TURN TWO OUT OF OUR FIVE STREETS INTO A BUSY THOROUGHFARE. NEW BARAKA WILL ELABORATE ON THIS MORNING. A MOMENT IN ADDITION TO THE APARTMENT RESIDENTS, DRIVING THROUGH TO RETURN TO THEIR APARTMENT AND CREATING DAILY OVERWHELMING TRAFFIC CONCERNS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, OVERFLOW PARKING FROM THE APARTMENTS WILL ALSO CAUSE MAJOR ISSUES FOR OUR SERENE NEIGHBORHOOD. OVERFLOW. PARKING IS NOT A PROBLEM THAT I AM HYPOTHESIZING AND PREDICTING WILL OCCUR. IT IS ALREADY A PROBLEM THAT WE DEAL WITH WITH THE APARTMENT LOCATED AT THE BACK OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. PLEASE LOOK AT THE MAPS PROVIDED ON THE PARKING CONCERNS. PAGE ME CURRENTLY EXPERIENCED OVER FOUR PARKING ISSUES WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AT THE NORTHERN SIDE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, NUMEROUS CARS, AN AVERAGE OF EIGHT TO 10 PARK ALONG NATURE'S BEND OVERNIGHT. IT'S MARKED IN RED ON THE MAP. THIS CURRENTLY CREATES A MINOR INCONVENIENCE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT JUST FORCES A MORE NARROW PATH FOR CARS TO TRAVEL DOWN WHEN TRYING TO ENTER OR EXIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM NATURE'S BENT. THIS MINOR INCONVENIENCE AT THE BACK OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BECOME A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH THE OVERFLOW PARKING THAT WOULD OCCUR AT THE FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AS THE STREET AT THE FRONT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, VALERIE TRAIL IS NARROWER AND TRAFFIC IS GREATER. AS PEOPLE WAIT TO TURN OUT ONTO A BUSY INTERSTATE FEEDER ROAD, IN ADDITION TO CREATING A DIFFICULT ENTRY AND EXIT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM ACROSS IN TRAFFIC WRITTEN INTERSTATE FEEDER ROAD, IT WOULD ALSO BE A SAFETY HAZARD. RECENTLY, EIGHT CARS PARKED THEM ON NATURE'S BEND. ALL HAD THEIR WINDOWS SMASHED IN IN ONE NIGHT, HAD VARIOUS ITEMS STOLEN FROM THEIR CARS AND THE GLASS FROM THE SHATTERED WINDOWS LAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREET FOR OVER A WEEK BEFORE ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS WENT TO FINALLY CLEAN UP THE GLASS THEMSELVES CARS PARKED ALONG THE SIDE OF THE STREET, CLEARLY INVITES CRIMINAL ACTIVITY SUCH AS THIS, NO HOW CLOSE THE GREEN AREA [02:20:01] AREA OR FUTURE POTENTIAL PROBLEM IS COMPARED TO THE RED AREA. OUR CURRENT PROBLEMS, THE GREEN, IT IS CONSIDERABLY CLOSER TO THE HOUSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE DON'T WANT THESE OCCURRENCES HAPPENING SO CLOSE TO OUR HOMES. WE DON'T WANT TO BE LEFT WITH STREETS LITTERED WITH GLASS FOR DAYS ON END, ONLY TO HAVE TO PICK IT UP OURSELVES, NOR DO WE WANT TO WEAVE THROUGH PARKED CARS WHEN TRYING TO ENTER AN EXIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON A DAILY BASIS, PLEASE CONSIDER THE SEVERE MINT IMPACT. THIS LOCATION FOR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WOULD HAVE ON OUR QUIET TRANQUIL NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE APARTMENTS IN GENERAL. WE ALL PURCHASED OUR HOMES WITH TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES, LESS THAN A MILE FROM OUR HOUSES. WE'RE JUST AGAINST AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION, AS A RESIDENCE WHO WILL HAVE NO OTHER CONVENIENT OPTION FOR ACCESSING THEIR APARTMENT HOMES. AND FOR OVERFLOW PARKING, WE'LL PUT AN UNDUE VAST AMOUNT OF STRESS AND PRESSURE ON THE SMALL COMMUNITY. SOMETHING WE ARE NOT SURE WHETHER WE CAN WITHSTAND AND THAT IS OKAY FOR ME. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THAT WAS TIFFANY. AND, UM, AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE MO MEL, BONNIE, AND YOU WILL ALSO HAVE THREE MINUTES. ARE YOU THERE? AND IF NOT, AND THEN AFTER MUBARAK AND I'M MOBILE, MOBILE BONNIE BOSS, AND THEN ARCA IS THERE. OKAY, GREAT. AND IT'S STAR SIX TO UNMUTE. HELLO. YOUR PRESENTATION SEEMS TO BE OFF. IF IT SHOWS TRAFFIC CONCERNS ABLE TO GO TO ED AND THEN BACK TO NEW BARAKA. YES, OF COURSE. ED BOSS, ARE YOU THERE? YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THEN I'LL CALL OUT THE OTHER PEOPLE GLENN WEICHERT, AND THEN LOLI GALLEN BUT WE'LL GO ED, BOSS, AND THEN MUBARAK. OKAY. AND BOSS. HELLO? HELLO. I, THIS IS MUBARAK. SORRY. OKAY. SORRY. I THINK, UM, I, I'M SPEAKING TO OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE LAND AS A PARENT OF A TWO YEAR OLD. UM, I REPRESENT THE OTHER 27 FAMILIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ALSO REGULARLY UTILIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. MANY OF THE FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN. THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE WOULD BRING THE BUILDING OF APARTMENTS, WHICH WOULD INTRODUCE A MINIMUM OF 330 ADDITIONAL CARS DRIVING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. ON A DAILY BASIS. WE HAVE A MAP THAT SHOWS THIS TRAFFIC FLOW. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A SMALL TOTAL FIVE STREETS. THE EXACT NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE NO ALTERNATE ALTERNATE SPOTS TO WALK, RIDE BIKES OR CLAMP SITE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET TO. AND FROM OUR HOUSE FOR OUTDOOR PLAY, WE MUST UTILIZE DIARY, TRAVEL AND NATURES. THEN THESE ARE THE TWO STREETS THAT WILL BE CONGESTED WITH TRAFFIC. IF THE PROPERTY IS REZONED AND AN APARTMENT BUILDING IS BUILT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BERRY TRAIL, THESE TWO STREETS WILL BECOME A THOROUGHFARE AS IT'LL BE AN EASY ROUTE HOME FROM THE CLOSEST GROCERY STORE AND GAS STATION, FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS, ET CETERA. AND WITH THE COMPLETION OF A DIAMOND INTERSECTION OF PARMER AND 35, THESE TWO STREETS WILL BECOME THE ROUTE HOME WHEN FROM RETURNING ANYWHERE FROM UP NORTH OR SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD, CAN'T HANDLE IT'S NOT AS TRAFFIC AND THE CHILDREN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD NOT BE SUBJECTED TO SUCH TRAFFIC WHILE LEARNING TO RIDE THEIR BIKES ON THE SIDEWALKS. WHEN WALKING WITH THEIR PARENTS AND PLAYING WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDS, THE TWO STREETS THAT WILL BE USED AS A RETURN ROUTE FOR THE APARTMENT RESIDENTS, RESIDENTS DON'T HAVE STOP SIGNS. SO THERE'S ONLY TWO ROUNDABOUTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH YIELD SIGNS. SO IN GENERAL, THIS IS THE SOULMATE, A SPEEDIER FASTER TRAFFIC FLOW, WHICH CREATES A GREATER DANGER FOR KIDS. THIS NEW PLAN, AND THIS NEW COMPLEX SIMPLY IS NOT SAFER NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S SPELLED FILMY KIDS UNDER FIVE AND REGULARLY PLAY OUTSIDE AND CONSIDERING THE SIZE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANKS SO MUCH FOR HEARING THE PARENTS PERSPECTIVE, UM, TO THIS OPPOSITION. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN ED, BOSS, AND ED BOSS, ARE YOU THERE? AND THEN AFTER THAT GLENN WEICHERT AND THEN LOIC GULEN, [02:25:04] AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. HI, JEREMY, SPEAK UP. YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. THERE SEEMS TO BE BACKGROUND NOISE. YES, GO AHEAD. OKAY. AGAIN, MY NAME IS ED BOSS, MY WIFE AND I BOTH ARE 70 YEARS OF AGE AND RETIRED. WE PARKED JUST THIS HOME SIX YEARS AGO, KNOWING THE LAND BEHIND US WAS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL. WE HAD PLANS OF STAYING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT EVER MOVING AGAIN. BUT NOW WITH THE CHANGE OF REZONING FOR MULTIFAMILY, UH, COULD FORCE US TO RELOCATE DUDE, PRIVACY, TRAFFIC PARKING, AND OTHER CONCERNS. ZONING LAWS SHOULD HELP BUYERS KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT AND WHAT IS GOING ON GOING TO BE AROUND THEM IN THE FUTURE AND ALLOW THEM TO MAKE THE APPROPRIATE DECISIONS WHEN BUYING, AS YOU CAN SEE ON MY SLIDE UP HERE, PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS MARKED IN RED THERE'S HOMES, ALL AROUND, UH, 15, 16 HOMES. AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AT THE PROPERTY LINE IS AN EQUAL EVEN. SO I'M GOING TO USE MY PROPERTY AS AN EXAMPLE, MY BACKYARD IS 24 AND A HALF FEET. AND FROM MY HOUSE TO THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT WAS IN DISCUSSION IS 50 FEET OR 25 FEET FROM PROPERTY. THIS BUFFER WILL BE USED FOR, UH, PEOPLE WALKING. IT'S ALSO USED FOR PARKING. LOT CARS WOULD BE PARKED FACING OUR HOMES FROM OUR HOUSES TO THE DRIVEWAY IS 50 FEET. THIS DRIVEWAY WILL CIRCLE THE ENTIRE COMPLEX. YOU'LL SEE THAT ON SLIDE TWO. AND IT STARTS AROUND BUILDINGS FIVE AND SIX PEOPLE WILL BE DRIVING AROUND THESE BUILDINGS AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT CAUSING NOISE HEADLIGHTS SHINING IN THE HOUSES AND OUR WINDOWS. THIS IS NOT CONDUCIVE FOR GOOD SLEEP OR GOOD HEALTH. THEN JUST 75 FEET AWAY IS BUILDING SIX OF THE APARTMENTS, WHICH IS 38 FEET TALL, THREE STORIES WITH BALCONIES. WE CAN'T BUILD PRIVACY FENCES OR PLANT TREES TALL ENOUGH TO PROVIDE PRIVACY FOR OUR HOMES. SO WITH THE 38 FOOT THREE STORY BUILDING WITH BALCONY, 75 FEET AWAY, AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC, 50 FEET AWAY, AND AUTOMOBILE SPACING OUR YARDS AT 25 FEET AWAY IN A PARKING AREA. WE CAN ENJOY OUR BACKYARDS ANYMORE. WE CAN'T HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OVER FOR COOKOUTS. THESE ISSUES AFFECT ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND IS WHY KEEPING THE PROPERTY ZONE FOR COMMERCIAL IS MORE COMPATIBLE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY WOULD HAVE SET HOURS OF OPERATION AND THE ISSUES I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, BUT NOT EXIST. WE ARE HOPEFUL. YOU DO NOT ALLOW SUCH A ZONING LAW TO CHANGE AND DESTROY THE PRIVACY OF SO MANY HOMEOWNERS WHO DID NOT BUY THEIR HOMES. BACKING UP TO A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL APARTMENT COMPLEX. WE ARE ANTICIPATING COMMERCIAL AND ASKING THAT YOU HONOR AND RESPECT THE BUYERS AND OUR HOMEOWNERS WISHES AND KEEPING THE COMMERCIAL ZONING. HOWEVER, WE DO KNOW AUSTIN IS IN THE FASTEST GROWING METROPOLITAN AREA IN THE COUNTRY WITH THAT COMES GOOD AND BAD. PROVIDING STEADY SERVICES, DRAIN SPACE, TRAFFIC CONTROL HOUSING MUST BE KEEPING CITY PLANNERS UP AT NIGHT, BUT WHILE TACKLING THESE ISSUES, PLEASE DO NOT FORGET HOW THIS GROWTH IMPACTS YOUR CURRENT RECORD. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. OOPS. AND THEN, UM, PERFECT TIMING. AND THEN, UM, UH, GLEN WEICHERT, PLEASE COMMISSIONERS. HOPEFULLY CAN, YES, I'M SPEAKING. I SHOULD BE UNMUTED. YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, I'M NOT A NEIGHBOR. I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR THE SPRINGS OF WALNUT CREEK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. I HAVE BEEN SINCE IT WAS PLANTED, UH, FOR 11 OR 12 YEARS AGO. UH, IF YOU DO HAVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THE STAFF COMMENT, CAN SOMEBODY PUT UP THE ZONING MAP PLEASE? UH, IT'S ON PAGE SIX AND THAT ZONING MAP IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN. THERE'S ONLY EXITS FROM THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO EXIT AND GO NORTH ON . AND, BUT EVERYBODY THAT RETURNS, IF YOU WILL GO TO JAEGER RELAY IT, DOES EVERYBODY HAVE A LOOK AT THAT ZONING MAP? I GUESS NOT ON THE ZONING MAP FROM EAST JAEGER LANE, THERE'S NATURE'S BED. IT EXCLUSIVELY COMES AROUND IN CIRCLES THROUGH THIS 108 UNIT COMMUNITY WITHOUT OTHER VEHICLES. YES. 330 [02:30:01] UNITS ARE APPROVED. EVERYBODY THAT'S RETURNING FROM THE NORTH WILL PASS THROUGH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH NATURE'S BEND, GO UP BOWERY TRAIL TO TAKE A RIGHT AND GO RIGHT INTO THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT. SO IT IS CLEARLY NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS. THEY'RE ASKING FOR MOFAD FOR, UH, UH, ZONING, WHICH IS MODERATE TO HIGH DENSITY. AND WITH 330 UNITS, I CALCULATE THAT AT 28 UNITS PER ACRE, THE SPRING IS 3.15 LOTS PER ACRE. SO IT'S HARDLY, YOU CAN HARDLY SAY THAT IT IS COMPATIBLE. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE BASIS FOR THE BASIS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION ON PAGE TWO, I BELIEVE ZONING SHOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH APPROVED AND EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES. AND IT IS SIMPLY NOT. IF YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING, THE HIGHEST RESIDENTIAL ZONING IS MF THREE, AND THERE'S ALL SORTS OF AND OTHER ZONING IN THE AREA, NOTHING AS DENSE AS WHAT THEY'RE FOR THIS TRACK. THE, UH, ALL THE TRAFFIC WILL BE RETURNING. AS I SAID, ON NATURE'S BAND AND CIRCLING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ENTER BACK INTO THE MULTIFAMILY TRACK. UH, ALSO IF YOU'LL NOTE ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THEY SAY MULTIFAMILY COMPLEXES LOCATED ON I 35 ARE NOT IDEAL BECAUSE OF DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS RELATING TO POLLUTION, NOISE, AND LACK OF CONNECTIVITY AND MOBILITY OPTIONS, UNLESS ARIZONANS HAVE A CAR AND OTHER ONES THAT MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY OPTIONS AREA, OR ALL TRIPS WOULD NEED TO BE DONE BY CAR. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THEY DON'T ON THE EXISTING STREET CHARACTERISTICS. THEY DON'T EVEN MENTION NATURE'S EVENT, WHICH IS THE REALLY BIG DEAL. BOWERY TRAIL IS CONSIDERED 40 FEET OF PAVEMENT AND I 35 ACCESS ROAD, 28 VFW. IF YOU LOOK ON YOUR ARIEL, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE FW ROAD. THAT'S LIKE A DRIVEWAY IT'S 17 FEET WIDE IN A JUICE ONLY TO ACCESS THE VFW. UH, SO THAT IS NOT A GOOD EXAMPLE. IF YOU WANT TO SEE OUT A NEIGHBORHOOD COULD BE DESTROYED. YOU PUT 1000 TO 2000 ADDITIONAL TRIPS PER DAY ON NATURE'S BED, AND IT'LL BE, YOU'LL SEE FOR SALE SIGNS GOING UP RIGHT AND LEFT. SO CLEARLY THIS IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE ZONING, THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES IN THE AREA. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, AND THEN THE LAST PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS LOLA GOLEN. ARE YOU THERE? OKAY. YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. HI, THANK YOU. AS MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE NOTED, THERE ARE MANY MYRIAD OF TRAFFIC AND SAFETY CONCERNS. UH, I WILL BRING TO THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT THE MOST SOUTHERN PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IT HAD BLIND TRAFFIC CIRCLE FROM KIERSTEN CROSSING. MEANING IF YOU WERE ON CLEARSTREAM CROSSING, LOOKING TO ENTER, NATURE'S BEN, THERE'S A STOP SIGN THERE, BUT YOU CANNOT SEE THE ENTIRETY OF THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AND YOU NEED TO WAIT A MINIMUM OF THREE SECONDS TO MAKE SURE THAT TRAFFIC CIRCLE IS CLEAR BEFORE YOU ENTER THE STREET. IF WE HAVE THE THOUSAND OR SO PLUS EXTRA DRIVER PER DAY, THAT, UH, INTERSECTION WILL BECOME UNVIABLE. YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO USE THAT DUE TO THE NUMBER OF TRAFFICKING INCIDENT. UH, THE NUMBER OF TRAFFICKING SINCE AT BOWERY TRAIL, WHERE IT REACHES, WHERE IT HITS US, THE FRONTAGE ROAD IS ALSO CONCERNED. UH, THERE IS NO ACCELERATION OR DECELERATION LANE IN THAT AREA. SO YOU HAVE TO GO FROM 55 DOWN TO 30 IN OVER LONG, YOU'RE TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT CORNER, UH, IN THE INVERSE, WHEN YOU'RE ENTERING THE 35, THERE IS A SERIES OF GUARDRAILS THERE THAT ARE DAMAGED AT LEAST WEEKLY. SO THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC INSTANCE IN, IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY A PROBLEM, AND THIS WILL ONLY EXACERBATE IT. UH, LASTLY, UH, SAFETY CONCERNS WITH THE INCREASE IN CRIME, UH, IN THE PAST WEEK ALONE, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL NEW TRESPASSERS IN NOTICING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT SO LONG AGO, WE HAD A, LET'S CALL IT A RESIDENT FROM A [02:35:01] NEIGHBORING AREA, UH, ON OUR, IN OUR STREETS NAKED AND DOING STRANGE THINGS. AND IN LESS THAN 30 SECONDS, THAT WAS A POLICE SHOWED UP, THEY MURDER. SO I DON'T IMAGINE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO CONTINUE TO CONTINUE TO PROPAGATE IN THIS AREA. UH, ONE OTHER ISSUE IS THE NUMBER OF BROWN AND BLACKOUTS AT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SUFFERS IS A REGULAR OCCURRENCE ADDING 300 OR PLUS NEW DRAWS TO THAT POWER GRID DOES NOT SEEM LIKE IT WOULD BE A VIABLE SOLUTION. THERE ARE A MYRIAD OF OTHER LOCATIONS WITHIN A MILE THAT ARE EITHER ALREADY HAVE A MULTI-FAMILY HOMES OR WOULD BE VIABLE FOR MULTI-FAMILY HOMES. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS LOCATION IS NOT SUFFICIENT FOR MORE PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE. UH, AT THAT, AT THE, AT THE SAME TIME, I FOUND IT VERY DISCONCERTING THAT FOR SOME REASON, MY INFORMATION WAS GIVEN TO THE LEGAL TEAM FOR THE OWNER WHO THEN STARTED TO HARASS ME PERSONALLY AND WANTING TO TALK BEFORE THIS MEETING, TRYING TO I'M ASSUMING PRESSURE ME INTO CHANGING MY POINT OF VIEW. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR THE COMMISSION, BUT IT SEEMS VERY ORGANIZED CRIME LIFE. I YIELD MY TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE, UH, ONLINE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ON MY LIST. UM, SO THEN THE APPLICANT YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO FOR REBUTTAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, OKAY. CAN YOU, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS THE LAST THING HE SAID WAS HE SAID THAT THE LAWYER, WHICH IS ME FOR THE APPLICANT, TRIED TO GRAB HIM AND HAVE HIM CHANGED HIS BOAT HAS CHANGED HIS POSITION. THAT THAT'S A LIE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW CHAIR COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDREW RIVERA, IF I CAN, UH, INTERCEDE FOR JUST A MINUTE. UM, THE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP FOR A SEPARATE, UM, ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND IT WAS THROUGH, UH, COMMUNICATIONS THAT IT WAS REALIZED THAT HE MEANT TO SIGN UP FOR THIS ITEM AND NOT ANOTHER ITEM. OKAY. WELL, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S CLARIFY THE FACT THAT I HAVE NOT TRIED TO INTIMIDATE NOR WOULD I EVER INTIMIDATE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS OR OPPOSITION ZONING CASES. AND I LET IT GO WITH THAT. UH, I'M SORRY. THESE ARE, THESE ARE PUBLIC STREETS AND EVERYONE USES THEM ON THEIR SIDE THAT IF WE HAD A BED AND BREAKFAST ONE OR TWO ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES OR AUTOMOBILE RENTAL OR AUTOMOBILE SALE CAR DEALERSHIPS, THEY'RE GOING TO USE THESE ROADS AS WELL. THEY CAN'T. AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT KIND OF THE USE OF THOSE ROADS, HEAVIER CARS AND TRUCKS AND EQUIPMENT USING THESE ROADS. AND THIS IS AS THE STAFF THAT SUGGESTED TO YOU A COMPATIBLE USE, IT MEETS COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS WILL MEET COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, THAT VFW ROAD, AND IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO USE THAT. WE WILL HAVE TO UPGRADE THAT TO CITY STANDARDS AT OUR EXPENSE. WE HAD TO REMOVE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS FROM THIS PROPERTY SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE, IF IT'S LEFT VACANT, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. THEY MOVE INTO THAT. WE'VE REMOVED THEM BEFORE. WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION BY BRINGING IN A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. AND WE THINK THIS IS IT. AND AS I SAID, WE'VE GOT A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY HERE TO PROVIDE A PARKLAND AND PARKLAND CONNECTIVITY THAT BENEFITS NOT, NOT ONLY THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, BUT THE, ALL THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN. AND I, AGAIN, I REQUEST THAT YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE THIS ZONING CASE. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. AND UNFORTUNATELY, I REALLY DO HAVE TO GO. SOME PEOPLE ARE WAITING FOR ME, UM, MY NIECE AND FAMILY MEMBERS, SO I WILL HAVE TO PASS IT ON. THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY. AND NORMALLY THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT FAMILY FLYING IN FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND, UM, SO SINCE YOU'RE THE SECRETARY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE OVER FROM HERE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. UM, AND, UH, SO ANDREW, DID YOU JUST SAY THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WAS TRYING TO SPEAK OR IT SIGNED UP FOR THE WRONG CASE? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE DO WE, DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE WHO INTENDED TO SIGN UP AND SPEAK ON THIS CASE TONIGHT AND JUST GOT THE WRONG CASE? SURE. COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDREW. NO, THAT WAS A CLARIFYING THE CONFUSION IN REGARDS TO MR. COLLINS [02:40:01] COMMENTS IN REGARDS TO THE ITEM HE INITIALLY SIGNED UP FOR. BUT THANK YOU, ANDREW. I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. SO, UM, SO NOW, UH, ANDREW, PLEASE HELP ME OUT HERE. ME OUT HERE. I DID. THAT WAS THE REBUTTAL. IT IS. THAT WAS THAT THE REBUTTAL CORRECT APPLICANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND NOW IS IT APPROPRIATE TO A PROPER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES, SIR. OKAY. SO IT IS, WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. COMMISSIONER DANCLER I SEE YOU AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER RAY. OKAY. AND AS A SECRETARY, I'M TRYING TO MAKE THE NOTES TOO. SO I'LL TAKE THE NOTES FOR YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT? IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. AND THAT LOOKS UNANIMOUS WITH VICE-CHAIR OFF, OFF THE DYES, THE VIRTUAL DYESS. OKAY. NOW, UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. AND, AND, UH, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO HERE IS I'M GOING TO PUT MY PARTICIPANT LIST UP HERE AND, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE ROY HAS GOT HIS HAND UP. ROY COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER WOODY. I'M SORRY. WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION? UH, YES. UH, OF COURSE FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, FOR THE 3, 330 UNITS ARE ALL OF THESE MARKET RATE, UH, UNITS ARE ANY OF THE, ARE ANY OF THESE GOING TO BE, UH, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ANYTHING THAT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED AT THIS TIME? WE CAN WORK ON THAT BETWEEN NOW AND THE COUNCIL, IF YOU'D LIKE, YES. UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD WORK, BUT YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS, UH, YEAH. SURE. GREAT. AND, AND, UH, REFRESH ME YOUR NAME AGAIN SO I CAN MAKE A NOTE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RESPOND DIRECTLY TO YOU WHEN I FOUND OUT. YES. MY NAME IS ROY WOODY. OKAY, GREAT. THANKS. I DON'T KNOW WHY DEBBIE O D Y. OKAY, GREAT. AFFORDABLE. THE AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YES. IT LOOKS LIKE HE JUST GOT DISCONNECTED, BUT HE WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THIS SIDE. OKAY. YEAH, I GOT THAT. I'M GOING TO, I WAS GOING TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT THAT'S FINE. I'LL, I'LL JUST THE, THE, THE, THE, UH, THE IT'S TIME FOR THE COMMISSION TO ASK QUESTIONS. AND ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS MAY ASK YOU A QUESTION. SO IF THAT'S, IF THAT, IF THEY HAVE, IF THEY NEED TO DO SO, SO COMMISSIONER WOODY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? OH, NO, I THINK, BUT I THINK IT MAY BE, UH, MY COLLEGE DROPPED OFF. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, I'VE BEEN GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. DANKER, YOU WERE NEXT. UH, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS TO THE APPLICANT'S AGENT. I DID SEE THAT THE, UH, STAFF SAYING THERE WERE CAPACITY ISSUES. I KNOW YOU'VE APPLIED FOR A SERVICE EXTENSION REQUEST. IS THE CITY LOOKING AT OVERSIZING, UM, THAT AT ALL, PARTICIPATING IN OVERSIZING IT TO POSSIBLY INCREASE CAPACITY EAST OF THE SITE? I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE CIP LIST. NO, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OVERSIZING IN THAT FASHION, BUT I WILL CHECK INTO THAT AND REPORT BACK TO YOU. IT'S NOT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND TALKING TO OUR ENGINEER THAT THE CAPACITY IS ADEQUATE FROM A WASTEWATER STANDPOINT AND A WATER STANDPOINT. THE ONLY THING THAT MIGHT HAVE TO HAPPEN IS AS, UH, INTRODUCING A PARALLEL LINE TO THE WATER LINE, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A LARGE ONE THAT YOU WOULDN'T TAP DIRECTLY ONTO THAT, BUT LET ME CHECK AND SAY, AND I'LL, AND I'LL REPORT BACK TO YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER DANGLER. WAS THAT ALL YOUR QUESTIONS YOU HAD? THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER BRAY, YOU, YOU NEED TO UNMUTE, THANK YOU. I ALWAYS PUT MY ON THE HANDOUT AND THEN I DON'T KNOW YOU, UH, AND ANYWAY, UH, SO I'M TRYING TO KIND OF GET CLARIFICATION ON. SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY IS THE SOUTH OF BOWERY TRAILER GOING TO DO A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN NORTH, IT WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL. AND THAT TRADE-OFF IS, UH, GETTING MORE PARKLAND IF THE NORTH IS RESIDENTIAL. CAN WE CLARIFY THAT, LIKE WHAT THE CURRENT RULES WOULD BE LIKE? W W WHAT WOULD BE THE COMMERCIAL PLAN IF THEY DIDN'T GET RESIDENTIAL INDOORS? LIKE HOW WOULD TRYING TO JUST FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BALANCE IS THERE? LIKE, [02:45:01] WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY IS TRADING? WHAT ARE THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS OF PARKLAND WITH, UH, WALNUT CREEK IN THAT PARK? UH, BECAUSE I DEFINITELY REALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK CONNECTING THAT WALNUT CREEK, WHEN THE FILLING THAT GAP IN THE PARK, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. UM, BUT I'LL ALSO WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF LIKE THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN, THEN, THEN THE DONATION OF THE PARKLAND, DOESN'T THE CAR THAT THE CITY WOULD COULD IF THEY CHOSE CONDEMN THE PROPERTY, BUT THE DONATION WOULDN'T OCCUR. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND TALKING TO THE STAFF THAT THIS DONATION WITH THE, AND I MIGHT ADD THAT THE DONATION IS, I MEAN, THE ACQUISITION COULD BE OF THE PARKLAND, BUT YOU HAVE TO ACQUIRE, THEY HAVE TO ALSO ACQUIRE A PART OF THE OFFICE COMPLEX FOR THE PARKING, AND THEY'D HAVE TO ACQUIRE AN ACCESS ON AT 35 AS WELL. AND SO IT'S VERY, IT'S KIND OF COMPLICATED. NOW, STAFF HAS TOLD US THAT THIS PLAN THAT SEE ON, ON 15 MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKLAND, DEDICATION, PARKS, FACILITIES, AND PARK IMPROVEMENT, AND PARKLAND DEFICIENCY. AND I CAN, IF YOU WANT ME TO TRY TO QUANTIFY AND TELL YOU WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS, I'LL DO THAT AND GET IT BACK TO YOU. IF YOU'D LIKE. UM, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, UH, IF THERE'S PEDESTRIAN, PA, SO IF YOU HAVE THAT PARKLAND PUT IN, IS THERE A PLAN TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ONTO BAUER BOWERY TRAIL THAT WOULD CONNECT OVER TO THE PARKLAND? SO PEOPLE WEREN'T HAVING TO TAKE THE I 35 SERVICE ROAD TO GET TO THE PARK THAT LIVE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. IF THE, IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COOPERATES, IF YOU GO TO, EXCUSE ME, IF YOU GO TO 15, MY, UH, MY OFFICE CONCEPT PLAN, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THEY STRIP OF LAND BETWEEN THE BOWERY TRAIL AND OFFICE COMPLEX. IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE TO COOPERATE WITH PARKS DEPARTMENT, THEN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, OR IF THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE A, A VEHICULAR ACCESS, THEY COULD, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT PERMISSION FROM THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T OWN THAT LAND. IS THERE, IS THERE A, SO I SEE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SLIP AROUND A BOWERY TRAIL. IS THERE A PLAN? WOULD YOU HAVE LIKE A PEDESTRIAN, EVEN IF SAY THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T COOPERATE, WOULD YOU HAVE LIKE A SET AND NOT JUST A SIDEWALK FOR SOME KIND OF LIKE PEDESTRIAN, UH, CONNECTION, YOU KNOW, FROM THE END OF BOWERY TRAIL WHERE IT'S NOT OWNED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE PARKLAND THAT CAN BE DONE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TO THE, TO THE INTERSECTION OF VALERIE SHOWING AT 35. YES. I'LL CHECK ON THAT. THAT'S A VERY GOOD SUGGESTION. UM, I HADN'T THOUGHT OF THAT. THAT'S YEAH, I'M SURE WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THAT. LET ME CHECK AND SEE, BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY WOULD COOPERATE OR NOT. IF WE TOOK IT TO AUTHORITY FIVE, THEN THERE COULD BE LIKE A SIDEWALK THAT WENT AROUND TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE, OF THE, UH, OFFICE CON COMPLEX DOWN INTO THE BAR. SO I DO THINK THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR BENEFIT FOR THE, THE, THE, UH, RESIDENTS TO HAVE, UH, TO WALNUT CREEK, TO THE PARK DIRECTLY, WITHOUT HAVING TO NECESSARILY GET ON THE HIGH END, TO WALK TO WAY WE WILL COOPERATE COMPLETELY AND CAN PROVIDE THAT CONNECTIVITY EITHER TO BOWERY TRAIL OR TO, YOU KNOW, A SIDEWALK THAT GOES TO OUR 35 AND OUR TRAIL. SO RIGHT NOW I'LL, REMIND ME OF YOUR NAME AGAIN, SO I CAN RESPOND DIRECTLY BRIGHT, BRIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BRAY. IS THAT IT? DID YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. NOW YOU'RE MUTED. UH, ANYBODY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVEN'T ASKED A QUESTION? OKAY. OKAY. IS, UH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. JUST A REAL QUICK ONE. UM, I JUST FOLLOWING UP ON THE CONCERN EXPRESSED ABOUT THE PROPERTIES AT BACK UP, UH, TO THIS PROPERTY, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE GENTLEMAN THAT REFERENCED HIS EXPECTATION FOR COMMERCIAL USE. AND I'M WONDERING [02:50:01] IF, IF YOU'VE TALKED TO THOSE NEIGHBORS AT ALL ABOUT, UH, PRIVACY FENCING OR ANY, ANY SORT OF ACCOMMODATION TO ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT SECURITY OR, OR IMPACTS FROM LIGHTING, ET CETERA, WE'RE OFTEN, OH, I'M SORRY. UM, AND THIS IS THE APP. UH, WE, WE OFFERED TO MEET WITH THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND THEY DIDN'T, THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED. WE ARE OPEN TO MEET WITH THEM AND THEN MEET WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS SPECIFICALLY ALONG THE EASTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROJECT TO ADDRESS PRIVACY AND COMPATIBILITY. THE, WE WANTED TO BE A QUALITY PROJECT, THIS MEETS COMPATIBILITY, AND THAT BUILDING HEIGHTS ARE 35 FEET AND THEY, WHICH MEETS COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE CAN ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF, OF, UH, PARKING LIGHTS AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING WITH STRAINING AND PLANNING AND HANDOUT, VEGETATION, AND FENCING. SO WE'D BE GLAD TO VISIT WITH THEM IF THEY WANTED TO VISIT WITH US. WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON. DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. UH, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST NEEDED A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION IF I COULD, UH, ON JUST TO TWO ISSUES, HERE ARE TWO, TWO AREAS. ONE IS COMPATIBILITY, AND THIS IS FOR STAFF, UH, ANY COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SF SIX C O THAT SURROUNDS THIS, UH, PART OF THIS PROPERTY. WHAT ARE THE COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS HERE? HEATHER CHAPMAN HOUSING DEPARTMENT TICKS, AND ALSO THE USE OF TOWNHOUSE CONDOMINIUM DOES DO NOT TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY. IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO PUT IN ACO SOME OF THIS SIMILAR STANDARDS REGARDING SCREENING AND LIGHTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THEY'RE NOT AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGERED THIS TIME. OKAY. AND SO, UH, SO, UH, AS I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU SAID, THEN IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF THIS COMMISSION, SO DESIRE TO ADD THAT AS A CONDITION, UH, FOR THE ZONING, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE IN A CEO. OKAY. AND BECAUSE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, UH, HAD EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES WITH THE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, NOISE AND LIGHTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS ABOUT ACCESS TO IT. UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF I HEARD, IF I'M RECALLING CORRECTLY HERE THAT ACCESS TO 35 DIRECT ACCESS TO THE FRONTAGE ROAD THERE ON 35 IS NOT, IS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY TXDOT ME. THAT'S A QUESTION. WELL, UM, CITY OF AUSTIN HAS NOT BEEN IN ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH TEXTILE ABOUT THE ACCESS. SO THE INFORMATION MR. JOSEPH IS, I MENTIONED, WE KNOW AT THIS TIME. OKAY. AND SO THEN I WOULD ASK MR. JOSEPH, IF HE'S AVAILABLE TO, UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY WHAT YOU, WHAT I HEARD EARLIER? I THINK I HEARD THAT THAT TXDOT HAS NOT APPROVED THAT THEY MAY NOT APPROVE THAT OR WHEREVER WE REQUIRE SOME KIND OF A VARIANCE FROM TXDOT. YES. AND ON SLIDE 11, UM, WHICH COULD BE IN THE RECORD THAT THE FRONT END DRUG DOES NOT MAKE THE, OR THE ACCESS TO THE FRONT OF SIDE WOULD NOT MAKE TEXTILES SPEAKING APARTMENTS BECAUSE OF THE ENTRANCE RAMP TO, UH, NORTHBOUND AT 35. BUT THEY HAVE MET WITH US AND HAVE VERBALLY, VERBALLY APPROVED A DRIVE IN THAT LOCATION ONTO THE FRONTAGE ROAD. THEY WERE TO, FOR SOME REASON, NOT APPROVED THAT WE WOULD TAKE ACCESS FROM THE VFW ROAD AND WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT TO THE CURRENT CITY STANDARDS. OKAY. AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I I'VE SEEN THAT ROAD ON GOOGLE MAPS AND IT'S, IT'S REALLY A VERY NARROW ROAD. I MEAN, I JUST, I WOULDN'T RE YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD MEAN NEED SOME MAJOR, MAJOR UPGRADES THERE. AND, AND MY UNDERSTANDING ALSO IS THE ROAD THAT, UH, UH, THE ROAD, JUST TO THE SOUTH THERE IS THAT A PRIVATE ROAD. THAT'S BOWERY BOWERY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES. IS THAT A PRIVATE ROAD? NO, IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD. OKAY. SO THEN, AND, AND IS THERE SOME CONCERN ABOUT HAVING ACCESS FROM THIS, THIS SITE TO, TO THAT ROAD, TO BERRY ROAD CONNECT TO BOWERS BECAUSE THERE'S A STRIP OF LAND THAT'S OWNED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I SEE. I SEE. AND THEY WOULD [02:55:01] HAVE TO GIVE YOU AN EASEMENT TO THAT. I'M WITH. OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD ALL THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS ABOUT THIS. SO, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THIS SIDE IS PRETTY CONSTRAINED POTENTIALLY IN TERMS OF ACCESS FOR THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. SO I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT WITH ALL THE UNCERTAINTY, YOU KNOW, THAT I'VE, THAT I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THIS. SO, UM, SO THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. SO ANY ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. COMMISSIONER DANCLER OKAY. I THINK I DID IT RIGHT. UM, NOPE. DID I DO THAT RIGHT? UH, W DID YOU, WOULD YOU REPEAT IT? I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU NOW. OKAY. OKAY. UM, MR. JOSEPH, YOU MENTIONED THE HEIGHT WAS GOING TO BE 35 FEET FOR THE BUILDINGS MF FOR ALLOWS 60. WOULD YOU AGREE TO, UH, I, UH, PAP OF, UM, 40 FEET, UM, ON, ON THE, UM, IN A CEO. OKAY. YEAH. YES. I WASN'T ONLY THE IMPRESSION THAT IT MEANT COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, BUT, UH, I'M SURE THAT THE, UH, THE DEVELOPER WOULD AGREE TO A CAP ON THE HEIGHT OF THOSE BUILDINGS. LET ME GET WITH THEM AND I'LL RE RESPOND TO YOU, BUT I'M SURE WE CAN WORK THAT OUT. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN YOU SAID THERE WAS COMPATIBILITY MET COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS. SO WHAT WERE YOU SAYING? YOU'RE A SETBACK FROM, UM, BOWERY TRAIL WOULD BE THE APPLICANT. THE, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS WAS INDICATING HE THOUGHT IT WAS TWENTY-FIVE FEET. AND THEN HE HAD A, UH, ANOTHER TWENTY-FIVE FEET WHERE THE DRIVEWAY WOULD OCCUR. WELL, THERE THERE'S, UM, COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN ON THE SOUTH BOUNDARY LINE OF THE PROPERTY ASCENDING, THE, AND THEY DREW THIS AS IF IT WAS AS IF THERE WERE ALL SINGLE FAMILY AROUND THERE. IT'S 25 SEAT WHERE YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY DEVELOPMENT AT ALL. AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU HAVE TO SET BACK A CERTAIN NUMBER OF FEET BEFORE YOU CAN GO. I THINK IT'S 50 FEET BEFORE YOU CAN GO HIGHER THAN THAT. AND SO LET ME CHECK ON THE HEIGHTS OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS CONCEPT PLAN, EXCEPT FOR THAT ONE LITTLE CARRIAGE HOUSE, WHICH IS A LESS THAN ERROR ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, IT NEEDS COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. DO YOU HAVE THAT, THAT SLIDE UP? I THINK IT'S SLIDE EIGHT, BUT I WILL I'LL CHECK ON THE COMPATIBILITY OF THIS PARTICULAR SITE PLAN AND RESPOND BACK TO YOU WITH THE HEIGHTS AND THE DISTANCES. OKAY. COMMISSIONER DINKO. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO. UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME TO KNOW IN ORDER TO VOTE. SO, UM, I DON'T, THIS MEANS COMPATIBILITY. THIS MEANS COMPATIBILITY IS WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU. UM, UH, 40 FEET, THE LIMIT THAT YOU CAN'T GO ABOVE 35 FEET UNTIL YOU, UNTIL YOU SET BACK A CERTAIN DISTANCE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THAT IS, BUT I THINK THIS, THIS DISTANCE THAT WE HAVE HERE IS MEETS COMPATIBILITY. AND WHAT I'M TELLING YOU, THIS SITE, THIS CONSTANT PLAN WILL MEET COMPATIBILITY. OKAY. JUST TO CLARIFY IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE COMMISSION HERE, MY, I BELIEVE STAFF HAD SAID THAT COMPATIBILITY WOULD NOT BE TRIGGERED HERE WITH THE SF SIX ADJACENT HERE. SO WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING FROM THE APPLICANT IS THAT THAT EFFECTIVELY COMPATIBILITY WOULD BE MET BY THE SETBACKS. IS THAT, WHAT IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING AND MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPATIBILITY. WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S CORRECT. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HEATHER CHAPLAIN HOUSE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THIS SF GERMANY DOES NOT TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY, BUT I PULLED UP, UM, SOME T CAD INFORMATION AND I NEED TO CHECK THE SIZE OF A COUPLE OF THESE ADJACENT LOTS. THIS MAY BE ACTUALLY S F SCORE DEVELOPMENT IN AN SF SIX ZONING. OH, OKAY. ZONING TRIGGER. ACCOUNTABILITY. YEAH. I'M SORRY. YOU HANG ON JUST A SECOND. LET'S LET'S LET'S LET HEATHER FINISH. HELLO. YOU BROKE UP ON YOUR LAST SENTENCE. THANK YOU. SURE. UM, SO YES, IF IT WAS, UM, IF IT IS SF SIX ZONING, THE ZONING DOES NOT TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY, BUT IF [03:00:01] IT'S ACTUALLY DEVELOPED WITH SS FIVE OR , WHICH IS, SO I NEED TO CHECK A COUPLE OF THESE PARCEL ID NUMBERS, IF IT IS, UM, AS FULL AS IT APPEARS TO BE, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS ON GIS, THEN YES, IT WOULD TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY AND THERE WOULD NOT BE A NEED FOR ANY, UH, CONDITIONAL OVERLAY SENTENCE SHOULD TAKE ME JUST A COUPLE MINUTES. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW HEATHER. SO THANK YOU FOR LOOKING THAT UP IN THE MEAN TIME. DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER PREY? I MEAN, CAN WE ADD A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY TO HAVE ME COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS? AND THAT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD RATHER DO CONDITIONS ARE RELATED TO THE COMPATIBILITY OF THAN TO DO THE HYPER CORPORATE LIMIT, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S HELPFUL TO US WHAT WE WANT WITHOUT DOING THE HEIGHT LIMIT. BUT, UM, THAT WAS MY THOUGHT. I MEAN, IF IT, YEAH, IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF WE PUT A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY AND IT DOESN'T NEED IT, CAUSE IT WOULD APPLY ANYWAY. LIKE I DON'T SEE THE HARM, SO YEAH. OKAY. SO, UH, SO GIVEN THAT, IS THERE, UH, IS SOMEONE READY TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME? ANOTHER MINUTE I COULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH A, FOR A SECOND. HANG ON JUST A SECOND. CAN WE CRISP TRYING TO SEE IF HEATHER CAN GIVE US AN ANSWER ABOUT WHETHER COMPATIBILITY REQUIRES OR NOT? IF YOU COULD GIVE HER WHAT A FEW MOMENTS YEAH. MR. BRAD, APPRECIATE IT. I THINK WE'RE ALL TRYING TO GET TO THE SAME PLACE. I DO HAVE THE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. IF THAT'S INTERESTED, PULLED UP ON MY SEPARATE TABLET, I'M BECOMING VERY HIGH TECH. IT'S SCARING ME. UM, IT'S UH, I SAY ONE, CAN I SAY ONE THING? YES, SIR. ONE THING SIGNED THIS SIDE POINT, WE HAVE DESIGNED THIS SITE PLAN. CAN THE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, WHETHER, SO, SO WHAT I'M SAYING HERE, IF YOU WANTED TO PUT A CEO OR IF IT, IF IT WAS REQUIRED TO MEET COMPATIBILITY, WE HAVE ASSUMED THAT THIS IS REQUIRED TO MEET COMPATIBILITY AND THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO MEET THOSE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS. AND SO IF IT'S A CEO OR IF IT'S JUST COMPATIBILITY, WE'RE COMPLETELY OKAY WITH THAT. THANK YOU, SIR. AND I'M SURE THERE'S ABOUT TO BE, GET THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEEDED IN. SO IS ANYBODY ELSE, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO, UM, IF THE, SO IF, IF SHE DETERMINES THAT THE COMPATIBILITY WOULD NOT BE TRIGGERED, THEN WE, WE COULD STILL SAY, AS COMMISSIONER BARRY, I THINK WAS TRYING TO SUGGEST THERE, UH, IN THERE THAT, IN THERE AND SAY THAT THEY WOULD, THEY, WE WOULD, WE WOULD, UH, THEY, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, HEATHER CHAPMAN HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT BASED ON LOOKING AT TWO OF THE PARCELS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE EAST, THEY ARE ZONED LOCK AND I MEAN, THEY ARE SUBDIVIDED LOTS AND THEY MEET THE STANDARDS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. SO ON THAT, I BELIEVE THIS WOULD TRIGGER COMPATIBILITY. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SENSE OF ALL THIS CONFUSION, UM, YOUR RECOMMENDATION POLLUTED, SAY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, WELL, IF COMPATIBILITY IS NOT TRIGGERED, THE, UH, COMPATIBILITY WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED. OKAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I'VE ONLY LOOKED AT TWO LOTS AND I I'D LIKE TO CHECK THEM OUT MORE THOROUGHLY, BUT, UM, MR. JOSEPH SAID THAT THEIR PLAN INTENDS TO APPLY COMPATIBILITY AND, UM, BETWEEN NOW AND COUNCIL I'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT THE INDIVIDUAL PARCELS. OKAY. SO I THINK A COMMISSIONER DANCLER OKAY. YOU GOT IT. FINALLY. I THINK I'M FINALLY FIGURING IT OUT BY THE END OF THE MEETING EVERY TIME. RIGHT. UM, BUT COMPATIBILITY ISN'T JUST TIGHT. I THINK THAT THE SUGGESTIONS COMMISSIONER THOMPSON MADE WERE REALLY GOOD. UM, AND CAN WE INCLUDE A FENCING REQUIREMENT AS PART OF THE CEO? I, THAT SEEMS TO CHANGE. UM, BUT CAN WE REQUIRE A PRIVACY FENCE? [03:05:02] UH, YES YOU COULD, BUT IF IT IS DETERMINED BEFORE COUNCIL THAT THAT IS REDUNDANT, UH, DUE TO COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, THEN IT WOULD END UP JUST BEING, UH, NO CEO, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE TREATED BY COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS, BUT YOU CAN DEFINITELY MAKE IT. GOTCHA. AND THEN THE ONE OTHER THING I WAS HOPING TO GET TO IS I ACTUALLY, I THOUGHT COMMISSIONER BRAY'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE ACCESS EITHER WITH THE SIDEWALK FROM OR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE TRAIL CONNECTION WAS REAL IMPORTANT. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE CO2, UH, HEATHER SHAKIN, UH, HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE STARTING MY PLAN. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. REGARDING, UH, ACCESS VIA BOWERY TRAIL IT AGAIN, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OWNS A STRIP OF LAND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE NFR AND ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE GS. SO I HAVE TO DEFER TO THEM, SOMEBODY IS ON ANDREW RIVERA. SO A SLEEP FENCE REQUIREMENT MAY BE DONE IN A PRIVATE RESTRICT TO COVENANT. YEAH. I'M NOT. AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'M SURE THE APPLICANT CAN DISCUSS WITH, UH, UH, THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. I, I HOPE THEY WILL DISCUSS IT WITH THEM. OKAY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WE WERE KIND OF NARROWED IT DOWN NOW TO, UM, PUTTING IT SOME, UH, SOMETHING IN THE CEO, UH, ABOUT THAT, UH, IF COMPATIBILITY IS NOT TRIGGERED BY CODE, THEN COMPETITIVELY WOULD BE REQUIRED AND, OR IS REQUIRED. SO LET'S, SO THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPATIBILITY, IT WOULD INCLUDE THINGS LIKE SETBACKS AND, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, DOES IT INCLUDE ANYTHING WITH SCREENING OR, OR IS THAT EFFECTIVELY THE SAME THING? OKAY. SETBACKS. UM, SO DID ENLIGHTED, UH, OKAY. OKAY. OKAY, GOOD. GOOD. SO, SO THEN IT DOES SOUND LIKE IT DOES INCLUDE THAT AS WELL. SO I, THAT SOUNDS THAT IT DOES COVER, I THINK THE THINGS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS IDENTIFIED SO FAR, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR COMMISSIONER BRAY? I WAS GOING TO MAKE ONE. I, UH, SOUNDS LIKE SO APPROVING IT WITH THE, UH, ASSUMING THAT COMPATIBILITY IS NOT TRIGGERED, UH, TO, UH, COMPLY WITH COMPATIBILITY WITH THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS WITH THE FENCING. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO SPECIFY THE FENCING PART OF THAT. UM, IS THAT ALREADY INCLUDED IN COMPATIBILITY? WE SAY THAT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO SAY ADDITIONALLY FENCING IS NOT ALLOWED AND THE CEO WOULD HAVE TO BE IN A PRIVATE RESTRICTED COVENANT. OKAY. BUT SET BACKS, EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER BRAY HAS MADE A MOTION FOR, UH, AND THIS IS STAFF RECOMMENDATION, IS THAT CORRECT? MF FOR STAFF RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. UH, WITH, WITH COMPATIBILITY REQUIRED, IF IT'S NOT TRIGGERED BY CODE AND EVEN IF IT IS RIGHT. COMBAT WOULD JUST SAY COMPATIBILITY IS REQUIRED, THEN LIKE THE REST OF IT. OKAY. SO COMMIT, UH, COMMISSIONER BRAISE MOTION IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR MF, FOR COMPATIBILITY WITH REQUIRED IN, AND THAT WOULD BE IN THE CEO. OKAY. UH, IS THERE A SECOND COMMISSIONER? DENKER OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. SO WHAT UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD NIGHT. GOOD NIGHT. VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU, STEVE, FOR YOUR HELP ON THIS AS WELL. AND THEN TO ALL THE SPEAKERS THAT CAME OUT TO, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT TO SPEAK TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONER KING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE'RE MOVING, WE'RE MOVING ON. WE'VE FINISHED THE REGULAR AGENDA LIVING FROM, UH, TO ITEM C ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION, UH, DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING MATTERS RELATED TO PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? OKAY. SO THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE WORKING [D. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] GROUPS. I'M [03:10:01] SORRY. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I HAVE ASKED STAFF TO PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR THE JULY 20TH MEETING FOR THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, AND THIS HAS CO-SPONSORED WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER KING SECRETARY GANG, UH, TO MAKE, HAVE THAT MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE CITY'S BUDGET. UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TRADITIONALLY DONE. UH, STAFF HAS ADDED, UH, STAFF TO HELP WITH, UH, PERMITTING PROJECTS THROUGH FASTER, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE HAVING ADEQUATE PLANNING STAFF FOR SMALL AREA PLANS, CORRIDOR PLANS, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW DRAINAGE REVIEW, UH, UH, LOVE THE COMMENTS THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER RAY MADE ABOUT THE CAPACITY ON A PREVIOUS CASE, BUT HAVING GOOD TIA DOES MEAN MORE MITIGATION MONEY AND, UH, SAFETY CONCERNS CAN BE ADDRESSED WITH THAT EXTRA MITIGATION MONEY. SO I'D LOVE TO SEE, UM, THAT WE'RE MEETING ALL THE STAFFING NEEDS WE HAVE ACROSS THE BOARD. SO THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT OF THE ITEM AND, UM, SECRETARY, UM, KING WAS AGREEING TO AGREE TO HAVE IT PUT ON AND IT'S ON FOR NEXT, UH, AGENDA. UM, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DANCLER AND I'M HAPPY TO CO-SPONSOR THAT WITH YOU, MAYBE WE'LL GET IN JUST UNDER THE WIRE THERE. UH, FIRST HEARING THEY SCHEDULE A BUDGET HEARING ON THE LAST MEETING OF JULY AND THEN THE ACTUAL HEARINGS WILL BE IN AUGUST. SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL IN TIME, I THINK. YEAH. COMMISSIONER DINKLER MAY, UH, AS IT WOULD WE BE, UM, I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF WE WOULD PREPARE SOMETHING TO SUBMIT TO, FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE FULL COMMISSION SITTER IN OUR, IN OUR PROCESSES THAT WE WOULD SUBMIT THAT BY THE NOON THE FRIDAY BEFORE. OKAY. SO NOON FRIDAY BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, THEN WE WOULD SEND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FULL COMMISSION THROUGH, THROUGH ANDREW. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO, OKAY. MOVING ON THEN. ANY, ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, COMMITTEE REPORTS AND WORKING GROUPS CODES AND ORDINANCES. JOINT COMMITTEE. OKAY. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER. BRAD. DIDN'T HEAR YOU. UM, THEY MIGHT'VE HAD A MEETING. I WAS OUT OF TOWN FOR AWHILE. UM, SO I I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING, BUT I WILL FOLLOW UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. A SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE. WE, WE HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING SINCE LAST MONTH, SO, UM, NOTHING NEW TO REPORT THERE. OKAY. UH, ONION CREEK AND LOCALIZED FLOODING WORKING GROUP. WE ARE PART OF THAT GROUP. SO WE HAVEN'T, UH, THIS IS COMING BACK ON OUR RADAR SCREEN. WE WE'VE HAD TO ADDRESS A FEW OTHER THINGS. SO THIS IS COMING BACK UP. SO WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK ON IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS OR SO WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING ON THAT. OKAY. AND LET'S SEE, I THINK THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COMMISSION? IF NOT, THEN WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.