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UH, FLORIDA RIGHT NOW.

UM, I WAS KIND OF NERVOUS AND WONDERING IF I WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT, BUT WE HERE, UM, THAT'D BE HERE CAUSE WE'LL GET STARTED MORE ONLINE.

[CALL TO ORDER]

THIS IS A AUGUST MEETING OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND LIKE TO CALL EVERYTHING TO ORDER HOPE EVERYONE IS WELL, WHEREVER YOU ARE, WE'RE GOING TO START.

UM, OR A MUSIC COMMISSION

[MUSICAL PERFORMANCE]

WITH MUSICAL PERFORMANCES.

THIS IS OUR THIRD NOW MUSICAL PERFORMANCE.

UM, DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT TWO HAVE REPRESENTED NOW ON TO DISTRICT THREE.

I'M EXCITED TO, UM, SHARE SOME, SOME OF THE MAGIC AND THE CULTURE OF AUSTIN.

UM, THROUGH THESE MUSIC COMMISSION PERFORMANCES, WE HAVE PAUL LIMONE AND BIG BAND T TEJANO, EXCUSE ME, BIG BAND TO HANNAH.

UM, PAUL, HOW YOU DOING? I'M DOING VERY WELL.

HOW ABOUT YOURSELF? AWESOME.

AWESOME.

AWESOME.

TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF AND, UH, IT'S TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.

ALRIGHTY.

WELL, MY NAME IS PAULA MOON AND, UH, I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, ALL MY LIFE, EVERY BIT OF 68 YEARS.

AND, UH, I'VE BEEN A MUSICIAN FOR 48 YEARS, UH, IN MY LIFETIME.

AND IT'S BEEN, UH, QUITE AN EXPERIENCE, UH, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

BUT, UH, I, UH, I CONTINUED TO WORK WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS NOW, UH, IN CERTAIN, UH, LIKE RESTAURANTS AND STUFF.

UH, AND, BUT I'M STILL WORKING WITH THIS, UH, 11 PIECE ORCHESTRA THAT I, I WENT TO AUDITION FOR AND I WAS ABLE TO GET THE DEEP POSITION AS A LEAD VOCALIST ON THAT.

AND, UH, BUT YES, I'VE BEEN EVERY LIVING HERE IN AUSTIN, ALL MY LIFE.

FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT MIGHT BE WATCHING, OR MAYBE WATCH THIS LATER, THAT DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT TAHANA MUSIC.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S POSSIBLE IF YOU LIVE IN TEXAS, BUT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE HOW-TO.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TOHONO QUICKLY? WELL, THEY HAVE THEM MUSIC HAS REALLY COME FROM OUR CULTURE.

UH, WE, UH, GOING BACK TO OUR INCEST AND EVERYTHING, UH, UH, WE GREW UP WITH, UH, OUR ANCESTORS PLAYING, UH, AT, UH, WHETHER IT WOULD BE BIRTHDAY PARTIES, WEDDINGS, HOME WEDDINGS AT THE TIME AND STUFF, AND IT WAS ALL ACOUSTIC.

SO IT, IT BECAME, UH, IT BECAME, BUT THERE WAS A CULTURE.

AND THEN, UH, ALSO, AND THEN LATER ON IN THROUGH THE YEARS, THEY, UH, BROUGHT IN, WHICH IS THE ACCORDION, WHICH IS A VERY, VERY POPULAR INSTRUMENT, UH, FOR MANY YEARS NOW.

AND AS, EVEN AS OF RIGHT NOW AND WHICH IT KIND OF TURNED IT INTO MORE, UH, INTO THE RIHANNA, I GUESS, CALLING IT INSTEAD OF COLD, CALLING THEM MORE TO HANDLE, UH, CAUSE IT KIND OF CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, THE MUSIC OF IT, UH, THE RHYTHM AND EVERYTHING, UH, NOT, NOT VERY, JUST REAL HARD, UH, UH, ACOUSTIC STUFF.

AND, UH, SO, UH, THE DEAL ABOUT IT IS AT THE, THE, THE, THE, HOW MANY MUSIC IS, UH, BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS IS JUST THAT NOW THE WAY IT'S PLAYED AND WITH THE INSTRUMENT, LIKE I SAID, WITH THE COMBINATION OF, UH, YOU GET LIKE A RHYTHM SECTION, NOW YOU ADD KEYBOARDS YOU AT THE ACCORDING TO IT, AND THAT TURNS IT INTO WHAT THEY, EVERYBODY CALLED THE TOHONO MUSIC.

NOW WE GET THE NEW INVITE, HOMERS, WHATEVER THAT PEOPLE EVENTUALLY STARTED USING MORE AND MORE OF, AND TURN THEM INTO MORE OF A ORCHESTRATED, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, TYPE OF MUSIC.

AND SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT TURNED IT INTO THE TOHONO MUSIC, YOU KNOW? GOT IT.

YES.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO YOU, YOU DID A RECORDING, CORRECT? YOU DID LIKE A VIDEO RECORDING.

YES, YES I DID.

YEAH.

SO WE'LL GET READY TO, WE'RE GOING TO GET READY TO SHARE THAT WITH, UH, ANYONE THAT'S TUNING IN.

SO, UM, LET'S, LET'S GET TO THE RECORDING AND WE'LL BE BACK.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS SO MUCH.

[00:08:55]

ALL RIGHT, PAUL, I'M ON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SHANE.

WELCOME SHANE YOUR TOWN WITH US A BIG, BAD TIME.

THAT WAS NICE.

THAT WAS A VIBE MAN.

IT'S DEFINITELY WAS THAT, UH, THAT WAS A GHETTOS THAT WAS SOUTH CONGRESS.

UH, SHOUT OUT TO GIRLS.

UH, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, RIGHT? HOW MANY YEARS THEY'VE BEEN AROUND RUN FOR QUITE MANY YEARS.

I WANT TO SAY IT COULD BE PRETTY CLOSE TO 20 YEARS OR BETTER BECAUSE THEY DID START OUT WITH A SMALL PLACE OUT ON AN OLD TOUR, UM, LIKE EAST OF, UH, OF A CONGRESS.

AND, UH, THEN AFTER THAT THEY WERE THERE FOR QUITE A FEW, MANY YEARS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, THEY MOVED TO THIS NEW LOCATION, UH, SOUTH CONGRESS.

YES.

AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE EVER SINCE.

YES.

BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

UM, W WHERE CAN, WHERE CAN PEOPLE, UH, SEE YOU OR HEAR YOU NEXT? AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S BEEN KIND OF SLOW FOR US TO BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT,

[00:10:01]

OF THE PANDEMIC FOR ONE.

AND THEN, UH, UH, SO, UH, I TALKED TO THE LEADER OF THE GROUP, UH, EARLIER, AND, UH, HE DID SAY HE HAD A FEW THINGS PENDING, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE A CLOSE DATE ON IT.

UH, EXACTLY WHERE, UH, BECAUSE OF, UH, NOW THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK UP ON STAGE FIVE WITH, UH, WITH A VIRUS OF PANDEMIC, UH, THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THAT.

I WAS DOING SOME READING ON IT.

SO, UH, EVERYBODY'S KIND OF, UH, KIND OF A LITTLE, UH, SCARY ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT, BUT I HOPE TO GUIDE IT WILL BE VERY SOON BECAUSE, UH, I WANT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

THIS PANDEMIC HAS REALLY PUT A LOT OF HURT ON A LOT OF OUR MUSICIANS, AUSTIN MUSICIANS, AND REALLY ALL THE MUSICIANS ON LOUVER, BUT, UH, UH, CAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE, UH, DO, UH, MUSIC FOR LIVING AND THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THEIR JOBS, THEY WOULD STILL DO IT.

IT'S STILL PART OF, UH, THEY WILL STILL DO IT FOR PART OF A LIVING BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO MAKE IT NOWADAYS.

AND THEY HAD NEEDED THAT EXTRA MONEY TO, YOU KNOW, PEAT, THEIR FAMILIES OR WHATEVER.

AND, UH, BUT WITH ALL THIS PANDEMIC, EVERYTHING JUST STARTED.

I WANT TO BE HONEST, THERE'S A LOT OF MUSICIANS HURTING OUT THERE SO BAD, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, I'M ONE OF THEM, MYSELF, BUT, BUT ALL OF THEM, ALL 30, THEY, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH HARD TIMES AND HOPE TO GOD, UH, SOMETHING GOOD CAN HAPPEN FOR THEM.

AND THAT, UH, UH, THAT'LL HELP ALL OF THEM GET BACK TO PLAYING OR TO HELP THEM, UH, GET SOME KIND OF FINANCIAL HELP AND THIS, YOU KNOW, AMEN.

AMEN.

WELL, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST ON AND ON OUR END TO TRY AND HELP THAT COMMUNITY.

WE'RE HERE FOR THE MUSIC COMMUNITY, ALL MUSICIANS IN AUSTIN.

AND WE, AGAIN, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JUST SHARING YOUR, YOUR CULTURE, YOUR ENERGY, YOUR KNOWLEDGE, YOUR EVERYTHING WITH US TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO, UH, OUR FRIENDS EASY COMPADRE, WHERE WAS EASY COMPADRE YET.

HI, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

AND I WAS GREATLY, WE ENJOY A LOT OF THE PERFORMANCE WE WERE LISTENING TO GIVEN THE EIGHT TO FIVE.

EXACTLY.

DEFINITELY.

DEFINITELY WILL TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT Y'ALL YOUR SOUND, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY.

UM, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN AN OFFICER, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US? SURE.

THANK YOU.

SO WE EAT, THIS IS A COMPARISON, AN OSTEON BASED BAM, UM, UH, ON FRAIL AND I'VE ORIENTED FROM MONTEREY ACTRESS FROM GUERRERO.

AND WE'VE BEEN LIVING IN AUSTIN FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.

MORE OR LESS.

YEAH.

AND WE MET HERE AND THEN WE DECIDE TO DO THIS, THIS MULTIDISCIPLINARY GROUP IN THE FORM OF THE MUSIC.

AND MEN'S, HAMBLE, UH, WE HAVE DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, BUT SIMILAR, A LOT OF SIMILARITIES.

SO A LOT OF WHAT WE DO IS A FUSION BETWEEN, UH, NOTHING WILLIAMS, UH, SAME SYNTHESIZE FOR MUSIC, UH, SOME JAZZ, SOME TROPICAL MUSIC, SOME COLOMBIA, EVERYTHING THAT MAKES HER.

AND WE BLEND THAT, UH, SOMEHOW.

SO A FRAIL OFFICER PERCUSSIONIST, A GREAT PERCUSSIONIST, AND HE, UM, ALSO HAS BEEN PLAYING WITH MODELING COMMONERS MOVIES, UH, YOUR NAME AND A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU USE, UH, ALSO BESIDES BEING A DRUMMER, UM, THIS HYBRID DRAMA BETWEEN ACOUSTIC AND ELECTRIC, YOU ALSO DO SOME ART INSTALLATIONS, UH, RECENTLY HAVE DONE A COUPLE OF THEM ARE ALL LIKE SOUND SCULPTURES, ART INSTALLATION, ART SCULPTORS, UM, EXTRA HERE.

HIS IS ALSO BESIDES BEING THE MAIN PRODUCER, SOME WRITER AND THE BRAINS BEHIND THE MUSIC.

HE'S A EXTREMELY GOOD GUITARIST AND HE'S ALSO VERY COMMON PHOTOGRAPHER AND GRAPHIC DESIGNER AND FILM PETER MAKER, VIAGRA FOR IT.

SO ACTUALLY THE VIDEO THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO SEE A HUGE SILLY RECTOR WITH VIDEO, WE POLLUTE TO THE HOUSE OR, UH, WITH THE HELP OF, OF NATHALIA, UH, UH, ACTIVE WIFE, UM, ALFREDO AND I WORK THE SYSTEMS AND ACTORS OF THE VIDEOS.

IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.

AND I LIVE IN THE WORLD MYSELF, UM, UM, UH, KIND OF BACKGROUND MORE THAN THE CLASSICAL MUSIC.

UM, YEAH, SOME, ALL THIS SYNTHESIZER BI-FOLD, UH, EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING INTO YOURSELF WITH, UH, WITH THE ELECTRONICS.

UM, SO IT WAS, IT WAS A PRETTY NICE COMBINATION USED TO PLAY, UM, UH, FRENCH HORN TOO, THAT WE ACTUALLY USE IN A COUPLE OF SONGS, UM, USED TO BE IN THE

[00:15:01]

AUSTIN CIVIL COURT.

AUSTRALIA WAS IN THE WARD THERE FOR, UH, FOR A FEW YEARS AND THEN MOVED TO THESE PROJECTS.

SO NOW WE'RE DOING ALL THESE FUSIONS WITH, UH, MUSIC FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.

WE TRIED TO BE, UM, WHAT WE CALL AN ART ROCK OR A WARD MUSIC BAND FOR THE WAR BEAT.

SO DO YOU GUYS LIKE IT AND, UM, SEE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT? YEAH.

I SEE A LOT OF INTERESTING, UH, FUSION GOING ON WITH THAT COLUMBIA AND OTHER TYPES OF THINGS HAPPENING.

SO I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU GUYS GOT GOING ON, SO LET'S GET TO IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NICE.

NICE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YEAH, MAN.

YEAH, THAT'S

[00:20:01]

SUPER COOL VIDEO ALSO.

YEAH, TIME'S THE TALENT GUYS AND YEAH.

UM, AND MR. LIMO, AND ALSO, I MEAN, LOVE THE BIG SOUND OF YOUR BAND AND THANK YOU ALSO SO MUCH FOR, UM, REMINDING US ABOUT THE, THE COVID PANDEMIC SITUATION FOR OUR MUSICIANS.

I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON, BUT IT ABSOLUTELY BEARS REPEATING.

SO, UM, AND AGAIN, YEAH, SO THE, THESE, UH, COMMISSIONER LIMONE FROM DISTRICT THREE FOUND, UM, THESE ARTISTS TO COME TALK TO US AND SHARE THEIR MUSIC WITH US TODAY.

SO ONCE AGAIN, JUST LIKE, I'M JUST, JUST STUNNING TALENT FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AND IN THE CITY.

SO THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US GUYS.

NO, YOU ALL STAY SAFE ALSO REAL QUICK THOUGH.

WHERE CAN THEY FIND YOU A WEBSITE, INSTAGRAM WHERE Y'ALL PLAYING NEXT, WE'RE PLAYING HOT SQUAD BREWERY THE NEXT SATURDAY, WHICH IS THE SEVENTH.

UM, WE'RE ALSO VERY AWARE OF THE COVID THING.

IT'S, UH, UM, OPEN SPACE AND SOCIALLY DISTANCE, UH, SHOW.

YOU CAN FIND US ON PC COMPADRE.COM OR IN ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE SOCIAL NETWORK AT THESE COMPETITOR MUSIC ON INSTAGRAM, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE MOST ACTIVE AND, AND BASICALLY THAT'S, YEAH, YOU CAN CHECK THE DATES THAT ARE COMING AND THE WEBSITE WE'RE BOOKED THROUGH, UH, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE DATES HERE IN TOWN.

DEFINITELY.

AWESOME.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AGAIN FOR, FOR COMING THROUGH AND SHARING WITH US.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IT'S AN HONOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY.

SO, UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

UM, IF ANYONE HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK OUT THE, THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING MOTION TO APPROVE.

OKAY.

A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, BOTH.

OKAY.

I'M MOSTLY CASE AUDIT TO NEW BUSINESS

[2A. Discussion and Possible Action following update from Joyce James of Joyce James Consulting on Live Music Venue Preservation Fund equity strategic plan process.]

TO A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING UPDATE FROM JOYCE JAMES, UM, OF JOYCE JAMES CONSULTING, ONLINE MUSIC VENUE, PRESERVATION FUND EQUITY, STRATEGIC PLAN PROCESS.

YES.

THANK YOU.

STEPHANIE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE I GET STARTED? STEPHANIE? NOT AT THIS TIME.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF ERICA OR KIM DID, BUT OKAY.

OKAY.

NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY A BIG, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

YOU DID RECEIVE THE FINAL REPORT THAT, UH, JOYCE JAMES CONSULTING, UH, PUT TOGETHER.

SO I'LL JUST HAND IT OFF TO HER TO KIND OF, UH, UH, PRESENT TO YOU, UH, WHAT THE EXPERIENCE WAS LIKE.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

I THINK WENDY HILL HAS JOINED ME.

WENDY, ARE YOU HERE? I AM HERE.

OKAY.

FIRST THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY FIRST, THANKS FOR THE GREAT ENTERTAINMENT TO START THIS MEETING OFF WITH, AND ALSO TO JUST KIND OF REFLECT AND ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, THE DIFFICULTY AND THE HARDSHIP THAT MUSICIANS ARE EXPERIENCED IN AS A RESULT OF THE PANDEMIC.

UH, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT OUR OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH THE MUSIC VENUES, UH, WAS JUST SO CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE AND UNPRECEDENTED IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT THE KIND OF WORK THAT WE HAVE SEEN HAPPEN AROUND, UH, THESE, UH, ISSUES.

I WOULD SAY AUSTIN IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TO, TO REALLY PUT FORTH AN EFFORT LIKE THIS, TO SAY THAT, UH, HOW IMPORTANT EQUITY AND INCLUSION IS AND THE MUSIC BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND TO ACTUALLY, UH, RECOGNIZE, UM, HOLLY IMPORTANT THAT IS TO MAINTAIN AND, UH, AND LIFTING UP THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL.

UH, WE WERE, HAD NOT BEFORE WORKED, UH, WITH SUCH A GROUP WE'RE USED TO WORKING WITH, UH, SYSTEMS LIKE EDUCATION FORDS, JUVENILE JUSTICE, HEALTH, HOUSING, CITY POLICE.

UH, AND SO WHEN THIS OPPORTUNITY CAME, WE WEREN'T QUITE SURE WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE WE WOULD GET, UH, FROM PEOPLE IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY ON A CONVERSATION THAT WAS ABOUT INSTITUTIONAL AND STRUCTURAL RACISM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE DIALOGUE WAS ABOUT.

UH, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I AM SO PROUD OF HOW ALL OF THEM CAME INTO THIS DIALOGUE OPEN.

[00:25:01]

I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT, UM, GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER BETTER, UH, REALLY FOCUSING ON MUSIC AND THE HISTORY OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN, IN AUSTIN AND GIVING RECOGNITION, UH, TO THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN PARTICULAR BLACK MUSICIANS, UH, WHO HAVE LAID A STRONG FOUNDATION, UH, IN THIS CITY AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS IT RELATES TO MUSIC.

AND SO I WOULD ROLE WAS TO INTRODUCE WHAT WE CALL A GROUNDWATER ANALYSIS.

AND THIS ANALYSIS IS ACTUALLY BASED ON UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, AS IT RELATED TO THE LACK OF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, UH, IS NOT VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE SEE IN ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS AND INSTITUTIONS, RIGHT.

THAT WHEN WE FIND THAT THERE ARE SOME INEQUITIES, THERE ARE GENERALLY, UH, IMPACT THE SAME POPULATION OF PEOPLE.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN THE BROAD CONTEXT, UH, ALWAYS MOVING PEOPLE TOWARDS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT NONE OF WHAT WE WERE ENGAGING IN WAS ABOUT INDIVIDUAL RACISM NOR ABOUT WHO IS RACIST.

AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY HELPED TO BRING PEOPLE IN, UH, WE GOT SUCH WONDERFUL, UH, THOUGHTS AND IDEAS, UH, THAT HAVE GONE FORWARD TO HELP, TO REALLY FUEL AND FEEL AND, AND, AND MAKE THE EQUITY PLANS, UH, THAT THEY ULTIMATELY SUBMITTED, UH, COME ALIVE AND COME ALIVE, REFLECTING NEW PRINCIPLES AROUND EIGHT ANTI-RACISM.

AND HOW DO YOU REALLY GET TO, UH, EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION? AND IT WAS REALLY GREAT IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE WE ONLY HAD ONE BLACK MUSICIAN OUT OF ABOUT, I MEAN, MUSIC VENUE, UH, OUT OF MAYBE ABOUT 50 PEOPLE.

AND, UH, THAT PERSON ACTUALLY DID NOT STAY IN THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS, BUT HIS VOICE WAS SO VERY STRONG, UH, IN THE VERY BEGINNING.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TO REALLY STRETCH IN THEIR THINKING AND UNDERSTANDING OF THESE ISSUES.

NOW, UM, I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU BE MOST INTERESTED IN KNOWING ABOUT, UH, OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THOSE MUSIC VENUES? WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU BE MOST INTERESTED IN KNOWING? UM, WELL, I MEAN, WOULD, AND I DID SEE SOME OF THE, THE RESPONSES FROM THE VENUES ABOUT, UH, MEASURES BAY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE AND CHANGING THEIR, THEIR PRACTICES FOR, UM, BOOKING BANDS AND EVEN STAFFING AND SO ON.

IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UM, THE, THE VENUES ARE GOING TO BE MAKING AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE STEPPING UP, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO HEAR.

YEAH.

AND, AND IF I, IF I CAN, IF YOU CAN ALLOW ME, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT I COULD SHARE WITH YOU THAT WOULD REFLECT THAT IF, IF I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THOSE, BUT LET ME JUST SAY THAT.

SO THEY WENT THROUGH A WORKSHOP WHERE WE INTRODUCED PRINCIPLES AND DEFINITIONS AROUND DIFFERENT FORMS OF RACISM, INDIVIDUAL, INSTITUTIONAL, STRUCTURAL.

UH, THEN WE, UH, INTRODUCED THIS GROUNDWATER ANALYSIS, WHICH REALLY SPOKE TO, UH, THE FACT THAT THE INEQUITIES EXIST IN ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT BY LOOKING INTERNAL TO SYSTEMS AND COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS VERSUS LOOKING AT INDIVIDUALS THAT IT WASN'T ABOUT A FEW BAD APPLES, THAT IT WASN'T ABOUT POINTING FINGERS AND LAYING BLAME, BUT THAT A POWERFUL PIECE OF WHAT WE NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND WAS HOW WE HAD ALL BEEN SOCIALIZED AROUND RACE AND HOW THAT SHAPED THE LENS THROUGH WHICH WE SEE MUSICIANS OF COLOR AND HOW IT COULD UNINTENTIONALLY IMPACT WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE ACTUALLY INCLUDING THEM.

AND SO, UH, WE DID THAT, AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH A DEBRIEF WHERE THEY CAME BACK AFTER A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO REFLECT ON THAT NEW INFORMATION.

AND THEY HAD SOME OF THE MOST EYE OPENING REFLECTIONS, UH, AS IT RELATED TO JUST GOING THROUGH THAT FIRST WORKSHOP.

AND I CAN SHARE A FEW OF THOSE WITH YOU.

I COULD ALSO ASK WENDY TO SHARE A FEW, BUT THEN WE MOVED TO A STRATEGY SESSION WHERE WE USE THE FRAMEWORK, UH, TO PUT SOME INFORMATION UNDER VARIOUS COMPONENTS AND THAT WOULD DRIVE THEIR EQUITY PLANS.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT SOME OF THE IDEAS OF THE IDEAS THAT, THAT WE CAME UP WITH, UH, WE JUST GOT THE, THEIR EQUITY PLANS, I THINK LIKE MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO.

AND I THINK THE PLANS WERE GOING TO GO TO THE EQUITY COMMITTEE, UH, AT PORT SOME COMMENTS AND WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THOSE BACK YET.

AND SO ONCE WE HAVE THOSE, WE WILL ACTUALLY BE

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DOING A FURTHER REVIEW OF THEIR PLANS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ALIGNED WITH THOSE PRINCIPLES THAT WOULD MEET THE GUIDELINES.

WHEN DID, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING BEFORE I PUT THIS POWERPOINT UP? YEAH.

I, YOU KNOW, JAWS, I WAS JUST GOING TO JUST PROVIDE JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW, YOU KNOW, COMING IN INTO THE, THE FACILITATED DIALOGUE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE KEY, UM, UM, QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED FOLKS TO ANSWER IS ABOUT WHY THEY THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDO, UM, INSTITUTIONAL AND STRUCTURAL RACISM.

AND AS WE KIND OF WORKED THROUGH THEIR RESPONSES, THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF THREE OR FOUR KEY BUCKETS.

AND, AND, AND A COUPLE WE SEE ACROSS SYSTEMS WHO ARE DOING THIS KIND OF WORK, AND ONE THAT MAY BE SOMEWHAT UNIQUE TO THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AND, AND THE WHOLE, UM, THE ISSUE OF RACE AND RACISM.

SO FOR MOST OF THEM, THEY SAW IT AS BEING GOOD FOR BUSINESS THAT THEY EXPRESS MANY OF THEM, UH, THE DESIRE TO HAVE A MORE DIVERSE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, OFFERING OF MUSICIANS THAT WOULD ALSO TREND TOWARDS HAVING MORE DIVERSITY INSIDE THEIR INDIVIDUAL VENUES.

OTHERS KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT FROM THAT, UH, EQUAL OPPORTUNITY STANDPOINT, RECOGNIZING THAT IF WE'RE NOT INTENTIONAL, IF WE ARE NOT STRATEGIC, UH, IT WON'T HAPPEN THAT, UM, THAT ACTUALLY THE TREND HAS BEEN GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, WHERE WE'RE SEEING FEWER AND FEWER, UH, UH, UH, VANS OF COLOR, MUSICIANS OF COLOR HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, IN, IN, IN AUSTIN, UH, AND, AND KIND OF MOVING AWAY FROM, UM, HAVING THAT DIVERSITY THAT MADE AUSTIN LEGENDARY.

BUT THE ONE THAT, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE UNDERCURRENT IS THE ISSUE OF FEAR THAT THERE REALLY IS A NEED TO HAVE THIS PUBLIC DISCOURSE.

AND I KNOW THAT IN YOUR, UH, STRATEGIC, WHAT, UM, UH, RACISM WORK GROUP THAT, UH, THERE WERE THREE POINTS THAT YOU LIFTED UP THAT WERE REALLY IMPORTANT AROUND, UH, PUBLIC DISCOURSE AND, UH, THE DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDING AND POLICY CHANGE WHILE THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE IS SO CRITICAL BECAUSE THOSE OLD STEREOTYPES AND THE IMPLICIT BIASES THAT, UM, CREATE FEAR, UH, AND MANY OF THE VENUES TALKED ABOUT JUST THAT BEING A REAL BARRIER, THAT EVEN IF YOU'RE BRINGING IN, UM, MUSICIANS OF COLOR, THAT THERE'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IN THAT, UH, NARRATIVE, THE SOCIALIZATION AROUND PEOPLE OF COLOR THAT WILL KEEP SOME PEOPLE FROM, UH, TAKING PART.

AND SO THERE'S REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE A TREMENDOUS PUSH, UH, INSIDE OUTSIDE SYSTEMS. WHEN I SAY SYSTEMS INSIDE THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND COMMUNITY, TO REALLY CHALLENGE THAT, TO CREATE SOME REAL OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, AND THAT FEAR WAS ALSO, UH, EXPRESSED IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH POLICING, UH, IT SEEMS THERE'S A SENSE THAT'S NEEDED, UH, WHEN THERE ARE CERTAIN KINDS OF MUSIC OR WHEN A PARTICULAR AUDIENCE IS GOING TO BE THERE, OR WHEN, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN MUSICIANS ARE GOING TO COME AND HOW, YOU KNOW, FOR US THAT SPEAKS TO A PIECE OF OUR MODEL THAT WE CALL CROSS SYSTEMS COLLABORATION.

AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD ENGAGE IN, EVEN WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AROUND THESE ISSUES, AND THEY EVEN SPOKE ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES RELATED TO THE RATES OF INSURANCE.

UH, IF YOU WERE GOING TO BRING CERTAIN KINDS OF MUSIC IN THAT THE, THE INSURANCE RATES WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, BE VERY, VERY HIGH AS IT RELATED TO THAT.

AND IT WAS USUALLY MORE SPECIFIC TO THE TYPES OF MUSIC, UH, OF BLACK ARTISTS.

AND SO THAT IN ITSELF HELPED US TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE, UH, INSTITUTIONAL AND STRUCTURAL RACISM, YOU KNOW, WHAT FUELS THAT KIND OF FEAR, UH, THAT CREATES, UH, YOU KNOW, THE INEQUITIES AND ALSO THE DIVIDE AND, AND DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY VERY SINCERELY EXPRESSED, UH, THAT THEY WANT IT TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE.

SO ANY, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

I THINK IF I JUST, THE BUTTONS NOT LIT UP TO SHARE, SO LET'S SEE ANY TECH I'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU THAT OPTION.

OKAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO, UH, JUST TO START WITH, UH, SHARON WITH YOU ALL, JUST A COUPLE OF THEIR REFLECTIONS THAT THEY HAD, UH, AFTER GOING THROUGH THE WORKSHOP,

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AS IT RELATED TO HAVING A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING AND ANALYSIS OF INSTITUTIONAL AND STRUCTURAL RACISM AND HOW IT ACTUALLY APPLIED TO, TO THEIR DAY-TO-DAY KINDS OF WORK.

AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT SOMEONE SAID THE, AFTER THAT THEY WENT BACK TO THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS AND THEY HAD A THREE HOUR DISCUSSION WITH THEIR STAFF, UH, DISCUSSIONS THAT THEY DIDN'T GENERALLY HAVE BEFORE, UH, HOW THEY HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON WHAT THEY'D LEARNED, UH, RECOGNIZING THAT THEY DON'T SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE OF COLOR APPLYING FOR BAR JOBS.

SO THEY DECIDED TO GO OUT AND FIND THEM RATHER THAN WAITING FOR THEM TO COME IN AND KNOW, AND, AND THIS KIND OF NEW THINKING ACTUALLY EMERGED THROUGH THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO INTRODUCE INFORMATION AND ENGAGE.

UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT ATTRACTING MORE EVENTS, THAT FEATURE NON-WHITE CULTURES, UH, HOW AFTER GOING THROUGH THE WORKSHOP THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE MEDIA AND THE NEWS ARTICLES DIFFERENTLY, UH, AND THAT THEY WERE HAVING A LENS.

AND WE CALL THAT A RACIAL EQUITY LENS, WHERE THEY COULD SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY HAD SEEN THEM BEFORE, UM, THAT THEY OPENED THEIR STAGE TO ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF MUSIC, UH, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO WIDEN THEIR APPROACH TO OUTREACH.

AND THAT THE WAY THAT WE HAD DONE THIS WORK WOULD BE A KEY COMPONENT OF THE STRATEGY SESSION.

UH, THEY THOUGHT THAT THEIR VENUES, UH, HAD, EVEN THOUGH THEY HADN'T REOPENED, UH, THAT THEY HAD MET WITH OUR EMPLOYEES AND THAT THEY SEEM VERY RECEPTIVE TO EXPAND IN THEIR LENS.

UH, THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR WITH STAFF THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY FOR RACISM, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO COME UP WITH, UH, SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE COULD MOVE AWAY FROM WHAT WE CALL INDIVIDUAL RACISM, UH, TO REALLY LOOKING AT INSTITUTIONAL.

SO THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, HOW THEY WOULD PUSH BACK AGAINST ANTI-RACIST EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES IN SCHOOLS.

UH, THEY WANTED TO, UH, JUST REALLY THINK ABOUT, UH, HOW TO USE LANGUAGE DIFFERENTLY, UH, IN THEIR WORK AND THAT THEY WILL CHANGE IN SOME OF THEIR, UH, THE WORDS THAT THEY USE THAT SEEM TO BE A TRIGGER, UH, FOR SOME GROUPS.

AND SO THEY SAID IT WAS GOOD TO BE REMINDED TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND, UH, THAT SOMEONE REALIZED THAT THEY WERE ONE OF THE CLUBS THAT CLOSED DURING THE TEXAS RELAYS.

UH, THEY RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE ARE QUICK TO JUDGE, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHY.

UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CLOSING EXITS DOWNTOWN, AND HOW THEY HAD A TOTAL BREAKDOWN FOR THEIR MUSICIANS TO BE ABLE TO GET CLOSE TO THE VENUE.

AND SO THERE WAS SOME UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WERE OTHER SYSTEMS THAT IMPACT, UH, THEIR ABILITY TO REALLY CREATE THE KIND OF, UH, I WOULD SAY RACE NEUTRAL ENVIRONMENTS THAT THEY REALLY WANTED, UH, TO CREATE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE SERVING.

UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, A DEEP INTROSPECTIVE ON HOW INSTITUTIONAL RACISM CAN BE PRESENT IN THEIR VENUES, WITHOUT THEM EVEN BEING AWARE OF IT.

AND SO WE REALLY SPOKE TO HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS TO BECOME CONSCIOUSLY AWARE OF SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

UH, THEY HAD COME COMPENSATIONS USING THE WORD EQUITY, WHICH IS NOT A COMMON TERM THAT THEY USE IN THEIR CIRCLES.

SO LEARNING SOME NEW LANGUAGE, UH, DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE INSTITUTIONAL AND STRUCTURAL SIDE ISN'T SOMETHING THAT JUST STARTED, THAT THERE WAS A TO THIS.

AND WE WERE ABLE EVEN TO CONNECT SOME OF THAT HISTORY ALL THE WAY BACK TO, YOU KNOW, GENERATIONS AGO IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, SOMEONE APPRECIATED APPROACH AND RACISM FROM THE SYSTEMIC SIDE IN ORDER TO EDUCATE EMPLOYEES AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS FROM THAT VANTAGE POINT, JUST LOTS OF GOOD COMMENTS.

UH, I SAID, MOST PEOPLE ON THIS CALL ARE WHITE, UH, EQUITY AMONG MUSIC VENUE OWNERS IS A CONCERN.

AND SO THEY RECOGNIZE THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY, ANY BLACK PEOPLE THAT WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE SESSION WITH US.

THERE WAS ONE GENTLEMAN THAT STARTED WITH US, UH, BEING BLACK MAKES ALL INEQUITIES WORSE AT THOSE WHO ADVOCATE FOR TRANS AND FEMINISM CAN ATTEST TO, UH, SOMEONE SAID THEY HAD INCREASED AWARENESS WHEN INTERACTING WITH EMPLOYEES, UH, PRIVILEGED AND MAY NOT BE THE PRESENCE OF PERKS, BUT THE, IT IS THE ABSENCE OF BARRIERS.

THEY REALIZE THAT THEY ARE ALL GATEKEEPERS.

AND WE HAD A VERY LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A GATEKEEPER AND HOW THEY CONTROL, WHO GETS IN AND WHO GETS OUT IN TERMS OF THE MUSIC VENUE.

AND WE SPENT LOTS OF TIME, UH, REALLY FOCUSING ON THAT, MAKING SURE THAT THEY WERE HEARING FROM THEIR EMPLOYEES AND CREATING THAT LIBERATED SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO

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TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT MAY BE CHALLENGING THEM, UH, IN THE WORK ENVIRONMENT, JUST, JUST A FEW MORE, AND THEN I'M GONNA GET TO, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY TALKED TO ABOUT THE THINGS THAT USED TO BE SUCCESSFUL FOR THEM.

SO LOOKING BACK, THEY SAID THEY USED TO HAVE UNDER AGE MUSIC EVENTS, UH, THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF LIABILITY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, BUT IT WAS A WAY TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.

UH, THEY CAME UP WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT MAYBE HAVING COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO ARE STUDYING MARKETING AND MUSIC INDUSTRY TO BE INTERNS IN THEIR VENUES.

UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT REALLY WORKING TO TRY TO FILL THE VACUUM, UH, WHERE THERE'S NO LONGER, UH, OPPORTUNITIES TO SHOWCASE TALENT POOL AND TO FIND A WAY TO BRING THAT BACK.

UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT HAVING SPACE BETWEEN THE WORKSHOP AND THE DEBRIEF AND THE STRATEGY SESSION AND HOW THAT REALLY GAVE THEM A CHANCE TO REFLECT AND TO CONTRIBUTE MORE WHEN IT CAME TIME TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THE PERMANENT CHANGES THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE HAPPEN.

UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT FOUNDATIONS CREATE AN EQUITY IN SCHOOLS, WHERE THERE IS A LACK OF ACCESS.

AND INSTEAD OF GIVING TAX BREAKS TO CORPORATIONS FOR APPS, PUT SOME OF THAT MONEY INTO THE EDUCATION SYSTEM, UH, WE DID A LONG EXERCISE ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EQUITY AND EQUALITY.

AND I THINK THEY REALLY GOT THAT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU HAVE TO STEP OUTSIDE OF YOUR EXPERIENCES AND REALLY LOOK AT THE EXPERIENCES OF PEOPLE WHOSE EXPERIENCES WITH SYSTEMS AND INSTITUTIONS ARE DIFFERENT WHEN OFTENTIMES THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS RACE.

AND SO THEY, THEY TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE MUSIC VENUES COULD DO TO ATTRACT MORE APPLICATIONS FROM PEOPLE OF COLOR.

THEY TALKED ABOUT UPDATING A LIST OF BLACK MUSICIANS THAT MIGHT BE OUTDATED SO THAT THEY MADE SURE THAT THEY HAD AN ALL INCLUSIVE, UPDATED LIST.

UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT AUDITS BEING ABLE TO REGISTER WITH THE MUSIC COMMISSION, BUT THAT IS A HUGE DATABASE LIKE THE WHITE PAGES.

UM, THEY BRAINSTORMED ABOUT FINDING MUSICIANS ON POLLSTAR AND OTHER INTERNATIONAL BOOKING GROUPS.

AND THEY ALSO REQUESTED THAT SOMEONE FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION CLARIFY WHAT'S NEEDED IN VENUE FIND, FIND YOUR FUNDING APPLICATION PROCESS.

AND WE DID HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND SPEAK TO THAT.

SO THIS IS THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE INTRODUCED TO THEM, UH, THAT COULD BE USED AS A GUIDE, UH, FOR THE, UM, THE EQUITY, UH, UH, REPORTS THAT THEY HAD TO PUT IN EQUITY PLANS.

AND SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THEM AS IT RELATED TO WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY GO INTO AN EQUITY PLAN.

AND SO THE FIRST ONE HAD TO DO WITH DATA DRIVEN STRATEGIES, WHERE WE WOULD REGULARLY COLLECT RESEARCH, ANALYZE, AND EVALUATE DATA BY RACE AND ETHNICITY.

AND SO, AGAIN, REVIEWING AND UPDATING THAT AUSTIN LIST OF BLACK MUSICIANS, UH, REVIEW AND UPDATE THE CULTURAL MAPPING PROCESS AND MAPPED ALL CULTURAL SPACES, UH, EXPLORING WAYS TO FILTER THE HUGHES, HUGE MUSIC INDUSTRY DATABASE FOR MUSICIANS OF COLOR.

SO HOW DO WE CREATE, UH, SOME TYPE OF DATABASE THAT WOULD GIVE THEM ACCESS TO A POOL OF, UH, MUSICIANS OF COLOR? SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE READILY AVAILABLE.

IT TALKED ABOUT SEARCH AND POLLSTAR AND OTHER INTERNATIONAL BOOKINGS FOR MUSICIANS OF COLOR, UH, ENCOURAGE MUSICIANS WHO DON'T HAVE AN AGENT TO JOIN A DATABASE.

AND THEN WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE BENCHMARKS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR THEM? SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EQUITY PLAN, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE STARTING, WHAT ARE THE EXISTING BID BENCHMARKS, AND HOW WILL YOU MONITOR AND EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY PROCESS BEING MADE.

SO WHERE DO YOU START, UH, HOW WILL THE VENUES DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY'RE ACHIEVING THE GOALS AND WHAT WILL BE THE EVIDENCE? AND THEN THEY TALKED ABOUT COLLECTING DATA ON EMPLOYEES, JUST AGGREGATED BY RACE AS A POSSIBLE STARTING POINT.

SO WHO DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE WORKING FOR YOU IN YOUR MUSIC VENUE? AND CAN YOU SET SOME TYPE OF GOAL TO BE INTENTIONAL AND DELIBERATE ABOUT INCREASING THE DIVERSITY IN VARIOUS AREAS OF THAT MUSIC VENUE, UM, MAKE PUBLIC THE NUMBER OF BLACK MUSIC VENUES, AND SOMEONE SAID THERE WAS ONLY THREE THAT THAT SHOULD BE MADE PUBLIC, AND THEN THAT SHOULD BE CAUSED, UH, SOME DESIRE TO, UH, WORK TOGETHER TO INCREASE THAT EXPLORE BEST PRACTICES IN PFLUGERVILLE, ROUND ROCK AND MAIN ARE REGARDING ATTRACTED BLACK PEOPLE.

APPARENTLY THERE WAS SOME SENSE THAT THE INDUSTRY AROUND

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BUSINESS FOR BLACK PEOPLE WAS GROWING MORE IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS AND THAT, THAT MIGHT BE, HAVE BEEN AN AREA THAT, THAT THEY COULD TAP INTO.

AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS LIKE LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? SO HOW DO WE DEVELOP LEADERS, UH, WHO CAN, UH, TAKE, YOU KNOW, TAKE, UH, TAKE THE, UH, LEADING POSITION IN FIGURING OUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE THESE THINGS FORWARD? AND SO THEY TALKED ABOUT EXPLORING WAYS TO BECOME MORE APPEALING AS AN EMPLOYER, TO PEOPLE OF ALL RACES.

SO WHAT COULD THEY DO IN THEIR ADVERTISEMENT, UH, IN HOW PEOPLE WERE GREETED WHEN THEY COME INTO THE PLACES THAT WOULD, UH, MAKE THE SPACE MORE APPEALING AND DESIRABLE, UH, THAT WERE, THEY WOULD MOVE BEYOND RHETORIC, RHETORIC OF RACIAL EQUITY AND ACTUALLY WALKED THE WALK WITH OUT OF THE BOX STRATEGIES FOR HIRING.

AND SO THINGS LIKE IF PEOPLE AREN'T COMING TO US, HOW DO WE TAKE A LOOK INWARD AND SAY, WELL, WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE MUSIC VENUE AND HOW WE OPERATE THAT MAY BE KEEPING PEOPLE AWAY AND WHAT CAN WE DO DIFFERENTLY TO ATTRACT? SO IT'S, IT'S THAT COMPONENT.

AND, UM, THAT WE TALK QUITE A BIT ABOUT THAT.

WE DON'T ALWAYS LOOK OUTSIDE FOR WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE, BUT THAT WE ALSO BECOME WHAT WE CALL CRITICAL LOVERS OF OUR VENUES, UH, THAT WE WANT AND DESIRE, UH, DIVERSITY AND EQUITY AND INCLUSION, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXAMINE WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE DOING THAT MAY BE A BARRIER OR CHALLENGES, AND TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO REACH OUT, INSTEAD OF JUST WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO COME, UH, ASK THE CITY TO PUT THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS, AND FINANCIALLY SUPPORT, LESSER KNOWN BANDS OF COLOR.

UH, THEY WANTED TO REQUEST THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD PROVIDE GREATER TRANSPARENCY REGARDING DISTRIBUTION OF THE LONG CENTER FUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND SO THOSE WERE SOME, AND THEN THERE WAS THE ONE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD A CULTURALLY COMPETENT WORKFORCE AND THAT, UH, THEY WERE INCORPORATING RACIAL EQUITY LANGUAGE INTO THE WORKPLACE FOR ALL THEIR EMPLOYEES, THAT THEY WERE PROVIDING A SAFE SPACE FOR EMPLOYEES TO EXPRESS TRAUMA THAT THEY MAY BE EXPERIENCING FROM ONGOING EVENTS.

AND THAT DISCUSSION WAS REALLY AROUND THE FACT THAT IF YOU HAVE, UH, BLACKS, HISPANICS, OTHER POPULATIONS OF COLOR WORKING IN YOUR VENUES, AND THERE IS A LOT GOING ON ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AS IT RELATES TO THE IMPACT OF RACE AND RACISM THAT PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COME TO WORK EVERY DAY AND PRETEND, AND HAVE EVERYBODY AROUND THEM, PRETEND LIKE THEY'RE NOT EXPERIENCED IN TRAUMA.

SO, YOU KNOW, NOT TO MAKE THE MUSIC VENUE A THERAPY PLACE, BUT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE TRAUMA THAT PEOPLE MAY BE EXPERIENCING AND TO PROVIDE A SAFE SPACE FOR THOSE THINGS TO BE, UH, CONSIDERED PROVIDE MORE ON THE JOB TRAINING FROM A RACIAL EQUITY LENS, IN ALL ASPECTS OF MUSIC VENUES VERSUS REQUIRING SCHOOL TRAINING.

SO THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW CAN YOU REACH OUT AND HAVE PEOPLE COME IN AND ACTUALLY LEARN ON THE JOB AND, AND MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS MAYBE TO SCHOOLS, OR MAYBE THROUGH OTHER COMMUNITY RESOURCES THAT COULD HELP CONNECT TO PEOPLE OF COLOR ASSURE THAT ALL CUSTOMERS FEEL WELCOME AT THE DOOR.

FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE OWNERS CHANGED THE NAME FROM SECURITY TO HOST, YOU KNOW, SO JUST LANGUAGE CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE ARE RECEIVED AND THE VENUES.

AND SO NO LONGER REFERRED TO THE STAFF AS SECURITY, BUT RATHER ASKED TO HOST AND APPLY OUT OF THE BOX THINKING.

AND RISK-TAKING SUCH AS RESPECT TO HIRING NON-TRADITIONAL WORKERS, SUCH AS THE HOMELESS OR FORMERLY INCARCERATED.

AND SO THEY WERE REALLY LOOKING AT BROADENING THE, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FOR PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT RACIAL INEQUITIES EXIST IN ALL OF THOSE OTHER SYSTEMS. SO IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, IN HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT, AND HOW DO THOSE THINGS CONTRIBUTE TO PEOPLE BEING HOMELESS OR ACTUALLY BEING FORMALLY INCARCERATED.

UH, AND SO THEY WERE OPEN TO THAT, TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO CONSIDER HIRING NON-TRADITIONAL WORKERS, UH, ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY WAS ANOTHER BIG COMPONENT THAT WE GAVE THEM IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO INCLUDE SOME OF THIS ACTUALLY IN THE, UH, IN THE PLANS.

SO EXPLORING WAYS TO, UH, I'M TRYING TO MOVE THIS A LITTLE BIT, EXPLORING WAYS TO FIND APPLICANTS OF COLOR

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I'M GONNA MOVE IN.

SO I CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE, JUST A SECOND.

GIVE ME A MINUTE HERE.

I CAN JUST MOVE THIS OVER A LITTLE BIT, THIS OVER, UH, EXPLORING WAYS TO FIND APPLICANTS OF COLOR, UH, FOR SOME OF THEIR POSITIONS VERSUS WAITING FOR THEM TO COME.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SAID IN ONE OF THE OTHERS, EXPLORE WAYS TO BOOK MORE EVENTS THAT FEATURE NONWHITE CULTURES FIND WAYS TO ASSURE THAT INTERNAL COMMUNICATION AND DEMEANOR IS WELCOMING TO EXTERNAL PATIENTS, PATIENTS, PATRONS.

AND THEN, UH, ONCE A GROUP IS IDENTIFIED AS ANTI-RACIST, YOU KNOW, FIND OPPORTUNITIES TO SHARE THEIR AVAILABILITY AT OTHER VENUES WHEN THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING AT YOURS.

AND SO THERE WAS LOTS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THE MUSIC VENUES COULD COLLABORATE AND PARTNER WITH ONE ANOTHER, SO THAT IF SOME HAD ACCESS TO CERTAIN MUSICIANS, THAT THEY MIGHT EVEN SUPPORT THOSE MUSICIANS BY REFERRING THEM TO OTHER MUSIC VENUES THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO MAYBE HAVE MORE BUSINESS THAN THEY WOULD ORDINARILY HAVE.

UH, AND THEN INVITING COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO ARE STUDYING MARKETING, WE'VE MENTIONED THOSE THINGS, AND I'M GETTING TO THE END OF THIS, UH, PROMOTE THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT OF MUSIC, UH, IN SCHOOLS, RIGHT, PROVIDE A PANEL DISCUSSION ON RACIAL EQUITY AT SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.

WE WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS SO NEW AND INNOVATIVE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED FOR YOUR MUSIC VENUES.

BUT ALSO IT SPEAKS TO THE EXPECTATIONS THAT THE CITY HAS THAT AUSTIN, UH, THE MUSIC TEAM HERE IS TRULY WHAT IT PRESENTS THAT IT IS RIGHT, THAT, THAT IT IS THE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, THAT IT IS INCLUSIVE, THAT IT IS DIVERSE, AND THAT YOU ARE REALLY WORKING IN NEW AND INNOVATIVE WAYS TO, TO MAINTAIN THAT.

AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN EXCELLENT SESSION AT SOUTHWEST SOUTHWEST, FIND WAYS TO SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THE BIG, EASY, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY WOULD BE A SOURCE.

I THINK THAT WAS THE ONE BLACK RESTAURANT, UH, THE, UH, ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN THAT HAD PARTICIPATED PARTIALLY THROUGH.

AND THEN I DID NOT GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH ADVOCATE FOR, AND SUPPORT THE FORMULATION OF GRASSROOTS MUSIC ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEN DECIDE WHO ELSE TO INVITE TO THE TABLE TO JOIN THE CONVERSATION.

THEY WANTED TO INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVES FROM 3, 1, 1 AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, AND THEN WHO ELSE WAS THE DIALOGUE THAT WAS GOING ON.

SO, UH, THEY WANTED TO WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ENSURE THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE UNNECESSARY POLICING, UH, THAT WOULD AFFECT THE CLOSURE OF THEIR BUSINESS.

THEY WANTED TO FIND WAYS FOR THE CITY TO HEAR FROM THE MUSIC VENUES REGARDING THE EFFECTS OF CITY POLICY AND HOW, UH, PROPERTY TAXES AND OTHER THINGS AND PAPERWORK, UH, HAD AN IMPACT ON THEIR ABILITY TO COMPLY WITH, UH, ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND WANTED TO ESTABLISH A FORUM FOR CLUB OWNERS, TO MEET PERIODICALLY WITH THE MAYOR AND OTHER CITY LEADERS TO DISCUSS WHAT MORE THE CITY COULD DO TO ASSIST AND WHAT MORE THE VENUES NEED TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND SOME OF THOSE TOPICS WERE IN REGARD TO THE IMPACT OF WHAT THEY CONSIDERED TO BE REALLY HIGH TAXES, UH, THE COST OF HOUSING ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION OVER POLICING AT CERTAIN VENUES.

AND SO THEY WANTED A WAY TO ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD BY CITY LEADERS AROUND THESE ISSUES.

UH, ONE TOPIC THAT CAME UP REPEATEDLY WAS ABOUT THE COST OF INSURANCE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW THE HIGHER INSURANCE PREMIUM IMPACTED THEIR ABILITY TO BRING IN CERTAIN HIP HOP GROUPS AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS WARRANTED, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS CONSIDERED A RISK, RIGHT? AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT HOW, UH, THINGS OFTEN BECOME A RISK BASED ON HOW WE HAVE BEEN SOCIALIZED TO THINK ABOUT CERTAIN GROUPS AND WHO'S DANGEROUS.

AND WHO'S MORE LIKELY TO, YOU KNOW, UH, CREATE A SCENE WHERE, YOU KNOW, TROUBLE MAKERS WILL SHOW UP AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT, THAT DRIVE, UH, COST.

SO THEY WANTED TO ASK FOR A SEAT AT THE TABLE AT THE NATIONAL INDEPENDENT VENUE ASSOCIATIONS TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLE AUSTIN MUSIC, VENUES, GROUP INSURANCE.

I MEAN, MAYBE THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I DON'T KNOW, UH, EXPLORE WAYS FOR MENTORING AND TUTORING, MENTAL AND MENTAL MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS

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LOOK FOR WAYS FOR THE MUSIC VENUE OWNERS, VOICES TO BE HEARD, UH, COLLABORATE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, COLLABORATE, UH, WITH THE CHAMBER AND OTHER ENTITIES THAT MARKET AUSTIN TO ENHANCE MARKETING MATERIALS OF MUSIC VENUES THROUGH A RACIAL EQUITY LENS.

SO IT'S LIKE, HOW ARE WE PUTTING OUT MATERIALS THAT WOULD CONVEY TO MUSICIANS OF COLOR THAT WE REALLY WERE WANTED THEM RIGHT.

TO BE INCLUDED, UH, IN, IN THE MUSIC SCENE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, IT WASN'T, WHAT IS IT A MESSAGE OF INCLUSION? AND SO TO EXAMINE THE MARKET AND MATERIALS, UH, TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND THE RACIAL EQUITY LENS, THEY WANTED TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS CHALLENGES IN MARKETING AND PROMOTING BASED ON OBSERVATIONS THAT WHILE WHITE PEOPLE AREN'T AFRAID OF BLACKS ON STAGE, WHEN THEY START MINGLING WITH THE CROWD, THEIR BODY LANGUAGE CHANGES.

AND SO THERE WAS SOME RECOGNITION ABOUT THIS FEAR THAT WENDY MENTIONED IN THE VERY BEGINNING THAT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE, NOT ONLY MUSIC VENUES, RIGHT, BUT THE WHOLE CULTURE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT EXISTS WITHIN THE CITY AND HOW WE'VE BEEN SOCIALIZED, UH, AS IT RELATES TO, TO WHAT'S DANGEROUS.

UH, THIS IS THE LAST, UH, ASSURE THE AWARENESS OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S HISTORY, ESPECIALLY, UH, THE 1928, ESPECIALLY THE, THE 1928 MASTER PLAN, RIGHT.

THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THE MUSIC VENUES TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION, UH, TO EXPLORE THE MUSIC HISTORY OF AUSTIN AND THE ROLE OF BLACK PEOPLE IN BUILDING AUSTIN'S REPUTATION AS THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, AND TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST THAT WITH THE EFFECTS OF WATER, GENDER PETRIFIED LOCATION.

AND SO LEARNING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE ROLE OF BLACK PEOPLE IN THE HISTORY, BLUES, JAZZ, RHYTHM, AND BLUES, TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE ROOT CAUSES.

WHY IS IT THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE LEAVING AUSTIN? WHY IS IT THAT WE DON'T SEE THE DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE MUSIC VENUES IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN? AND WHY IS IT THAT WE CAN'T REACH A MORE DIVERSE GROUP OF BLACK MUSICIANS BECAUSE THEY DO EXIST.

IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE NON-EXISTENT, THEY DO EXIST.

AND SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE AND HOW TO REACH THEM? AND SO THEY AGREED THAT ONE OF THEIR QUICK WINS WOULD BE TO SHARE EMAILS, PROMOTE BANDS ON TOUR WITH MULTIPLE AUSTIN VENUES AND OTHERS.

AND THEN IN THE END, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR INFORMATION, ALL OF THIS THINKING CAME FROM THE PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE WORKSHOP.

IT'S NOT, WE DIDN'T GIVE THAT TO THEM.

THEY WERE ABLE TO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE FACILITATED DIALOGUE, COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN TO HAVE A MORE INCLUSIVE AND DIVERSE, UH, YOU KNOW, MUSIC INDUSTRY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, JEWISH, UH, FOR SHARING.

UH, UH, DEFINITELY, UH, IF THERE'S ANY, UH, PEOPLE OF COLOR WATCHING THIS, THIS IS NOT NEWS TO US.

UM, NONE OF THIS IS NEWS TO US.

WE HAVE STRUGGLED IN THIS SYSTEM, UM, AGAINST THIS SYSTEM, WITHIN THE SYSTEM, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, WE HAVE FACED THESE, UM, REPERCUSSIONS OF THESE VENUE OWNERS, NOT UNDERSTANDING SO MANY OF THESE VERY OBVIOUS TRUTHS IN OUR LIVES.

AND SO, UM, WHILE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US WATCHING MIGHT BE LIKE, WELL, OF COURSE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THESE VENUE OWNERS HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS AND THAT THEY'RE FINALLY FINALLY IN 2021 BECOMING AWARE OF THE WAYS THAT, UM, THEIR ACTIONS OR INACTIONS, UM, HAVE IMPACTED AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY MUSICIANS.

UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS IMPORTANT WORK, UM, TO SOME PEOPLE WATCHING THIS, THEY MAY AGAIN SEE LIKE, WELL, THIS ISN'T THIS JUST KIND OF OBVIOUS.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY IT WAS NOT TO A LOT OF THESE FOLKS.

UM, AND THERE, THERE ARE A HOLES IN THE WAYS IN WHICH THEY OPERATE, WHICH, UM, NOW THEY'RE MORE AWARE OF, AND HOPEFULLY JUST THESE ACTS SOME CONSTRUCTIVE CHANGES.

I CAN DEFINITELY SEE MYSELF PERSONALLY, UM, OVER THE LAST, UH, SINCE WE'VE OPENED, I'M SEEING A LOT MORE DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF THE BOOKING, UM, IN THESE VENUES THAT I WASN'T SEEING, UM, PREVIOUS, UH, TO THE PANDEMIC AND A LOT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS.

SO I'M SEEING SOME OF THE, YOU

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KNOW, OUTWARD, UM, FIT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL TANGIBLE, VISIBLE, UM, RESULTS OF THESE CONVERSATIONS.

AND WE JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTINUE.

UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK AGAIN, THROUGH THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP.

UM, BUT THIS IS GREAT WORK.

THIS IS GREAT WORK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING IT AND LEADING IT.

THANK YOU, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THIS HAPPENED.

UM, AND YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THOUGHTS, FEEDBACK, QUICK QUESTION.

I KNOW YOU, UH, YOU SAID Y'ALL DID WITH ITS 50 VENUES AND I WAS CURIOUS, NO, IT WAS, I DIDN'T, IT WASN'T CLEAR.

THE QUESTION WAS MUFFLED.

I'M SORRY.

I CAN'T.

I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT, UH, CAUSE THIS IS A QUESTION I'VE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY, UH, BEEN TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW MANY OF THOSE, UH, VENUE SPACES OUT OF THE 50 WERE LATINO OWNED.

THEY'RE THEY'RE MORE, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER HOW MANY WERE LATINO OWNED? JOYCE? I THINK I ONLY REMEMBER MAYBE THREE OR FOUR.

AND WHEN I SAY THREE OR FOUR, I THINK THERE WAS ONE OWNER WHO HAD TWO VENUES.

I CAN'T THINK OF HIS NAME IS HE LIVES OUT IN WEST LAKE.

HE USED TO LIVE IN DEB SPRINGS, BUT I THINK HE HAD TWO.

AND THEN, AND THEN THERE WAS ONE THAT'S ON, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE NAME OF THE STREET.

I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES WITH ME, BUT I THINK WE REALLY HAD THREE REPRESENTING MAYBE FOUR VINEYARDS.

GOTCHA, GOTCHA.

YEAH.

AND IT'S, IT'S CLEAR THAT THOSE VENUES ARE ACTUALLY UNDERREPRESENTED AS WELL.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, YES.

I'D LOVE TO SEE THEM GET, YOU KNOW, THE SAME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ATTENTION, LIKE, CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ONLY ONE BLACK AND I'D LOVE TO SEE WITH BOTH WITH, YOU KNOW, BOTH, ALL PEOPLE OF COLOR, YOU KNOW, IF, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE Y'ALL, WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR THAT EQUITY, RIGHT? YES.

AND WE ALL DESERVE THAT SHINE.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SINCE IT'S, YOU CAN LITERALLY PUT THEM ON ONE HAND.

YEAH.

YOU CAN'T BE GIVING THEM ALL THAT LOVE.

YES MA'AM YEAH.

THINK WE HAD A NUMBER ORIGINALLY OF 78 VENUES, UH, AND OF THE 78.

AND I KNEW THAT THERE WERE THREE THAT WERE, UH, BLACK AFRICAN-AMERICAN OWNED AND I THINK THERE WERE THREE OR FOUR THAT WERE HISPANIC, LATINO.

UM, BUT I THINK WE HAD ABOUT 58 ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE SESSION.

SO THERE ARE A FEW WE DIDN'T SEE, BUT, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE, ON THE COUNT, BUT WE WERE GOING TO FIND OUT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION WAS AROUND THE INEQUITIES THAT EXIST FOR BLACKS AND OTHER VENUES, UH, YOU KNOW, OTHER POPULATIONS AS WELL.

AND SO THE EQUITY PLANS SHOULD SPEAK BROADLY, UH, TO THOSE THINGS.

RIGHT.

BUT THE FOCUS, UH, WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT IN TERMS OF, UM, UH, BLACK MUSICIANS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE POPULATION DECLINE IN, UH, IN AUSTIN, RIGHT.

IS TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT HOW, WHAT OTHER KINDS OF OUTREACH CAN YOU DO BEYOND JUST RIGHT HERE.

UH, AND THEN TO UNDERSTAND THE RACIAL INEQUITIES AND THE UNDERLYING CAUSES FOR BOTH THOSE GROUPS.

NOT, NOT JUST NOT DO FOR ONE YES.

YES.

MA'AM YES.

MA'AM YOU GOT THAT.

RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING THEIR PLANS AS WELL, TOO.

UH, SO WHEN THEIR PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND WE'RE WAITING FOR COMMENTS, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING GOALS TO LOOK FOR WHETHER OR NOT THEY ACTUALLY ARE ALIGNED WITH AND REFLECT, UH, THE KIND OF STRATEGIES THAT WOULD YIELD A MORE DIVERSE RACIALLY AND ETHNICALLY DIVERSE, UH, POPULATION.

FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, JAMES LAUREN, YOU HAD A COMMENT.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, ANSWERED MY QUESTION QUESTION.

I WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP THERE WAS GOING TO BE TO, UH, TO THIS RESEARCH AND, AND CONVERSATION AND JUST TO SEE, UH, IT FEELS LIKE A REALLY GOOD FIRST LAYER.

UH, AND, UH, I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE NEXT CONVERSATION WOULD, WOULD UNCOVER.

SO, UH, YEAH, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'LL BE FOLLOWING UP.

SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

AND ALSO IN ADDITION TO JOYCE, UH, FOLLOWING UP INDIVIDUALLY TO FINALIZE THESE PLANS, THE CITY WILL ALSO

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BE IN IT TO WIN IT WITH THESE VENUES AND WITH THE MUSICIANS TO PROVIDE ONGOING SUPPORT, WHATEVER IS NEEDED SO THAT WE'RE NOT SETTING PEOPLE UP FOR FAILURE WITH, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING THE TOOLS OR THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED.

SO ANYTHING THE CITY, THE ABILITY TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, TO PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION.

I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT HOW MUCH EFFORT AND BRAINSTORMING SESSIONS THIS MUST HAVE TAKEN TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE FOLD AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH THESE, THESE IDEAS AND UNDERSTANDING AROUND THE ISSUES.

UM, IT'S, UM, IT'S A VERY BROAD SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A NEED TO HAVE A VERY MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH TO ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

IT'S NEVER ONE OR TWO THINGS THAT WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE, BUT, UH, IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING, UM, ARTISTS OF COLOR, UH, NOT ONLY ARTISTS OF COLOR, BUT ALSO HOW DO YOU ENGAGE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY OF SAME, RIGHT? UH, HOW HAVE YOU PRIORITIZE WHAT YOUR TOP THREE OR FOUR ITEMS ARE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE GOING TO BE CONSTRAINTS, RESOURCES AND BANDWIDTH WISE, SO HAPPY PRIORITIZE.

WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO TALK IN FIRST? SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE A FEW.

SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.

AND, UM, AND, AND DO WE HAVE ANYTHING, UH, IN TERMS OF HARD DATA, UH, EVEN IF IT'S NOT PERFECT IN TERMS OF WHAT DESCRIBES THE STATUS AS OF TODAY.

SO THEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPARE THE OUTCOMES AGAINST SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

BUT 10 REQUEST IS IN, IT'S JUST A REQUEST BECAUSE ANY STARTING POINT AND AT THIS LEVEL OF COMPREHENSION IS, IS, IS BEAUTIFUL.

UH, BUT, BUT BEING FROM THE ONLY COMMISSIONER HERE FROM THE ASIAN COMMUNITY, I WOULD MAKE A REQUEST TO INCLUDE MEMBERS FROM A DIVERSE, UM, YOU KNOW, BACKGROUND, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE OF COLOR SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE INPUTS BECAUSE, AND I DON'T WANT TO GENERALIZE THIS BECAUSE I'VE HAD ONLY A FEW CONVERSATIONS, BUT EVEN WITH AN EQUITY, WHAT I HAVE SOMETIMES FACED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, ESPECIALLY TAPPING ENGAGEMENT EARLIER AS WELL, IS THAT EVEN WITHIN THAT CONVERSATION, ISSUE, ARTISTS SEEM TO BE A BIT OF AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH AWARENESS.

UM, YOU KNOW, TO GO AHEAD AND CHECK THAT BOX TOO, IF YOU NEED TO CHECK THAT BOX, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EVEN GETTING CHECKED AT SOME PLACES.

SO I WOULD REALLY MAKE THAT REQUEST TO BRING THAT VERY LESS INTO THE MIX AS WELL ON THE DEAL TO YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND I, UH, I WILL YIELD TO, UH, ERICA AND STEPHANIE IN A MINUTE ABOUT WHAT THE FOLLOW-UP IS GOING TO BE, BUT WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT BENCHMARKS NEED TO BE ESTABLISHED IT BECAUSE HOW ARE WE GOING TO KNOW THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS MAKING ANY DIFFERENCE IF WE, IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME, UH, DATA, YOU KNOW, BENCHMARK FROM WHICH WE'RE STARTING.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING THAT IN THE PLANS, IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE PEOPLE SAYING? WELL, SOMEONE ACTUALLY SAID, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND GOING FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO MONITOR AND EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE SEEING CHANGES TOWARDS HAVING A MORE DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST ONE THING.

UH, BUT DEFINITELY THEY'LL HAVE TO BE SOME ONGOING, UH, MONITORING AND SUPPORT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE IN GENERAL ARE NOT USED TO WORK IN, UH, IN WAYS THAT HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT DEEP ROOTED ISSUES OF SYSTEMIC RACISM.

RIGHT? AND SO WE HAVE TO UNLEARN A LOT OF THINGS TO EVEN GET MOVING ON THE JOURNEY TOWARDS DOING THAT BECAUSE WE'VE OPERATED OUT OF OLD THINKING AND OLD ASSUMPTIONS AND OLD ATTITUDES FOR SO LONG THAT IF SOMETHING DOESN'T HAPPEN TO KEEP TRIGGERING THAT NEW THINKING, THEN PEOPLE JUST GO BACK TO THE OLD.

AND SO THERE HAS TO BE A LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, THAT IS BEING MONITORED AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UH, ALONG THE WAY SO THAT THEY KEEP MOVING, UH, ALONG THAT JOURNEY TOWARDS CREATING WHAT WE CALL AN ANTI-RACIST MUSIC CULTURE.

JUST ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION IS THERE, UM, UH, THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT CAN BE SOLVED OVERNIGHT.

UH, AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT, IT'S LITERALLY SOMETHING THAT'S GOT TO BE CULTIVATED AND SOLD OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, PERHAPS OVER YEARS.

UM, AGAIN, ARE THERE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO TACKLE AND WITHIN, WITHIN SAY THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR ONE YEAR IN TERMS OF PUMP REDUCTIONS? I THINK THE FOLLOW-UP, UM,

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ONCE WE HAVE THE PLANS, UH, THEN WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA ABOUT HOW WELL DID PEOPLE INTERNALIZE INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO PUT STRATEGIES DOWN ON PAPER THAT CAN COME TO LIFE AND LIVE AND BREATHE, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE IS NO QUICK FIX FOR THIS, BUT WE ALSO ALWAYS TRY TO HELP THEM TO </