Aug 02, 2021 Music

THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO YOU, YOU DID A RECORDING, CORRECT? YOU DID LIKE A VIDEO RECORDING.

YES, YES I DID.

SO WE'LL GET READY TO, WE'RE GOING TO GET READY TO SHARE THAT WITH, UH, ANYONE THAT'S TUNING IN.

SO, UM, LET'S, LET'S GET TO THE RECORDING AND WE'LL BE BACK.

THANKS SO MUCH.

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ALL RIGHT, PAUL, I'M ON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SHANE.

WELCOME SHANE YOUR TOWN WITH US A BIG, BAD TIME.

THAT WAS NICE.

THAT WAS A VIBE MAN.

IT'S DEFINITELY WAS THAT, UH, THAT WAS A GHETTOS THAT WAS SOUTH CONGRESS.

UH, SHOUT OUT TO GIRLS.

UH, THEY'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, RIGHT? HOW MANY YEARS THEY'VE BEEN AROUND RUN FOR QUITE MANY YEARS.

I WANT TO SAY IT COULD BE PRETTY CLOSE TO 20 YEARS OR BETTER BECAUSE THEY DID START OUT WITH A SMALL PLACE OUT ON AN OLD TOUR, UM, LIKE EAST OF, UH, OF A CONGRESS.

AND, UH, THEN AFTER THAT THEY WERE THERE FOR QUITE A FEW, MANY YEARS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, THEY MOVED TO THIS NEW LOCATION, UH, SOUTH CONGRESS.

AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE EVER SINCE.

BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

UM, W WHERE CAN, WHERE CAN PEOPLE, UH, SEE YOU OR HEAR YOU NEXT? AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S BEEN KIND OF SLOW FOR US TO BE VERY HONEST WITH YOU BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT,

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OF THE PANDEMIC FOR ONE.

AND THEN, UH, UH, SO, UH, I TALKED TO THE LEADER OF THE GROUP, UH, EARLIER, AND, UH, HE DID SAY HE HAD A FEW THINGS PENDING, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE A CLOSE DATE ON IT.

UH, EXACTLY WHERE, UH, BECAUSE OF, UH, NOW THAT EVERYTHING IS BACK UP ON STAGE FIVE WITH, UH, WITH A VIRUS OF PANDEMIC, UH, THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THAT.

I WAS DOING SOME READING ON IT.

SO, UH, EVERYBODY'S KIND OF, UH, KIND OF A LITTLE, UH, SCARY ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS ON THAT, BUT I HOPE TO GUIDE IT WILL BE VERY SOON BECAUSE, UH, I WANT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

THIS PANDEMIC HAS REALLY PUT A LOT OF HURT ON A LOT OF OUR MUSICIANS, AUSTIN MUSICIANS, AND REALLY ALL THE MUSICIANS ON LOUVER, BUT, UH, UH, CAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE, UH, DO, UH, MUSIC FOR LIVING AND THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THEIR JOBS, THEY WOULD STILL DO IT.

IT'S STILL PART OF, UH, THEY WILL STILL DO IT FOR PART OF A LIVING BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO MAKE IT NOWADAYS.

AND THEY HAD NEEDED THAT EXTRA MONEY TO, YOU KNOW, PEAT, THEIR FAMILIES OR WHATEVER.

AND, UH, BUT WITH ALL THIS PANDEMIC, EVERYTHING JUST STARTED.

I WANT TO BE HONEST, THERE'S A LOT OF MUSICIANS HURTING OUT THERE SO BAD, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, I'M ONE OF THEM, MYSELF, BUT, BUT ALL OF THEM, ALL 30, THEY, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH HARD TIMES AND HOPE TO GOD, UH, SOMETHING GOOD CAN HAPPEN FOR THEM.

AND THAT, UH, UH, THAT'LL HELP ALL OF THEM GET BACK TO PLAYING OR TO HELP THEM, UH, GET SOME KIND OF FINANCIAL HELP AND THIS, YOU KNOW, AMEN.

AMEN.

WELL, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST ON AND ON OUR END TO TRY AND HELP THAT COMMUNITY.

WE'RE HERE FOR THE MUSIC COMMUNITY, ALL MUSICIANS IN AUSTIN.

AND WE, AGAIN, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JUST SHARING YOUR, YOUR CULTURE, YOUR ENERGY, YOUR KNOWLEDGE, YOUR EVERYTHING WITH US TONIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

WELCOME.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO, UH, OUR FRIENDS EASY COMPADRE, WHERE WAS EASY COMPADRE YET.

HI, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

AND I WAS GREATLY, WE ENJOY A LOT OF THE PERFORMANCE WE WERE LISTENING TO GIVEN THE EIGHT TO FIVE.

EXACTLY.

DEFINITELY.

DEFINITELY WILL TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT Y'ALL YOUR SOUND, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY.

UM, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN AN OFFICER, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH US? SURE.

SO WE EAT, THIS IS A COMPARISON, AN OSTEON BASED BAM, UM, UH, ON FRAIL AND I'VE ORIENTED FROM MONTEREY ACTRESS FROM GUERRERO.

AND WE'VE BEEN LIVING IN AUSTIN FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.

MORE OR LESS.

AND WE MET HERE AND THEN WE DECIDE TO DO THIS, THIS MULTIDISCIPLINARY GROUP IN THE FORM OF THE MUSIC.

AND MEN'S, HAMBLE, UH, WE HAVE DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, BUT SIMILAR, A LOT OF SIMILARITIES.

SO A LOT OF WHAT WE DO IS A FUSION BETWEEN, UH, NOTHING WILLIAMS, UH, SAME SYNTHESIZE FOR MUSIC, UH, SOME JAZZ, SOME TROPICAL MUSIC, SOME COLOMBIA, EVERYTHING THAT MAKES HER.

AND WE BLEND THAT, UH, SOMEHOW.

SO A FRAIL OFFICER PERCUSSIONIST, A GREAT PERCUSSIONIST, AND HE, UM, ALSO HAS BEEN PLAYING WITH MODELING COMMONERS MOVIES, UH, YOUR NAME AND A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU USE, UH, ALSO BESIDES BEING A DRUMMER, UM, THIS HYBRID DRAMA BETWEEN ACOUSTIC AND ELECTRIC, YOU ALSO DO SOME ART INSTALLATIONS, UH, RECENTLY HAVE DONE A COUPLE OF THEM ARE ALL LIKE SOUND SCULPTURES, ART INSTALLATION, ART SCULPTORS, UM, EXTRA HERE.

HIS IS ALSO BESIDES BEING THE MAIN PRODUCER, SOME WRITER AND THE BRAINS BEHIND THE MUSIC.

HE'S A EXTREMELY GOOD GUITARIST AND HE'S ALSO VERY COMMON PHOTOGRAPHER AND GRAPHIC DESIGNER AND FILM PETER MAKER, VIAGRA FOR IT.

SO ACTUALLY THE VIDEO THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO SEE A HUGE SILLY RECTOR WITH VIDEO, WE POLLUTE TO THE HOUSE OR, UH, WITH THE HELP OF, OF NATHALIA, UH, UH, ACTIVE WIFE, UM, ALFREDO AND I WORK THE SYSTEMS AND ACTORS OF THE VIDEOS.

IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.

AND I LIVE IN THE WORLD MYSELF, UM, UM, UH, KIND OF BACKGROUND MORE THAN THE CLASSICAL MUSIC.

UM, YEAH, SOME, ALL THIS SYNTHESIZER BI-FOLD, UH, EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING INTO YOURSELF WITH, UH, WITH THE ELECTRONICS.

UM, SO IT WAS, IT WAS A PRETTY NICE COMBINATION USED TO PLAY, UM, UH, FRENCH HORN TOO, THAT WE ACTUALLY USE IN A COUPLE OF SONGS, UM, USED TO BE IN THE

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AUSTIN CIVIL COURT.

AUSTRALIA WAS IN THE WARD THERE FOR, UH, FOR A FEW YEARS AND THEN MOVED TO THESE PROJECTS.

SO NOW WE'RE DOING ALL THESE FUSIONS WITH, UH, MUSIC FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.

WE TRIED TO BE, UM, WHAT WE CALL AN ART ROCK OR A WARD MUSIC BAND FOR THE WAR BEAT.

SO DO YOU GUYS LIKE IT AND, UM, SEE WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT? YEAH.

I SEE A LOT OF INTERESTING, UH, FUSION GOING ON WITH THAT COLUMBIA AND OTHER TYPES OF THINGS HAPPENING.

SO I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU GUYS GOT GOING ON, SO LET'S GET TO IT.

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SUPER COOL VIDEO ALSO.

YEAH, TIME'S THE TALENT GUYS AND YEAH.

UM, AND MR. LIMO, AND ALSO, I MEAN, LOVE THE BIG SOUND OF YOUR BAND AND THANK YOU ALSO SO MUCH FOR, UM, REMINDING US ABOUT THE, THE COVID PANDEMIC SITUATION FOR OUR MUSICIANS.

I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING ON, BUT IT ABSOLUTELY BEARS REPEATING.

SO, UM, AND AGAIN, YEAH, SO THE, THESE, UH, COMMISSIONER LIMONE FROM DISTRICT THREE FOUND, UM, THESE ARTISTS TO COME TALK TO US AND SHARE THEIR MUSIC WITH US TODAY.

SO ONCE AGAIN, JUST LIKE, I'M JUST, JUST STUNNING TALENT FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS AND IN THE CITY.

SO THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US GUYS.

NO, YOU ALL STAY SAFE ALSO REAL QUICK THOUGH.

WHERE CAN THEY FIND YOU A WEBSITE, INSTAGRAM WHERE Y'ALL PLAYING NEXT, WE'RE PLAYING HOT SQUAD BREWERY THE NEXT SATURDAY, WHICH IS THE SEVENTH.

UM, WE'RE ALSO VERY AWARE OF THE COVID THING.

IT'S, UH, UM, OPEN SPACE AND SOCIALLY DISTANCE, UH, SHOW.

YOU CAN FIND US ON PC COMPADRE.COM OR IN ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE SOCIAL NETWORK AT THESE COMPETITOR MUSIC ON INSTAGRAM, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE MOST ACTIVE AND, AND BASICALLY THAT'S, YEAH, YOU CAN CHECK THE DATES THAT ARE COMING AND THE WEBSITE WE'RE BOOKED THROUGH, UH, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE DATES HERE IN TOWN.

DEFINITELY.

AWESOME.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AGAIN FOR, FOR COMING THROUGH AND SHARING WITH US.

SO, UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

UM, IF ANYONE HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK OUT THE, THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING MOTION TO APPROVE.

SO WE'LL, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

I'M MOSTLY CASE AUDIT TO NEW BUSINESS

[2A. Discussion and Possible Action following update from Joyce James of Joyce James Consulting on Live Music Venue Preservation Fund equity strategic plan process.]

TO A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOLLOWING UPDATE FROM JOYCE JAMES, UM, OF JOYCE JAMES CONSULTING, ONLINE MUSIC VENUE, PRESERVATION FUND EQUITY, STRATEGIC PLAN PROCESS.

STEPHANIE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE I GET STARTED? STEPHANIE? NOT AT THIS TIME.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF ERICA OR KIM DID, BUT OKAY.

NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY A BIG, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

YOU DID RECEIVE THE FINAL REPORT THAT, UH, JOYCE JAMES CONSULTING, UH, PUT TOGETHER.

SO I'LL JUST HAND IT OFF TO HER TO KIND OF, UH, UH, PRESENT TO YOU, UH, WHAT THE EXPERIENCE WAS LIKE.

GOOD EVENING.

I THINK WENDY HILL HAS JOINED ME.

WENDY, ARE YOU HERE? I AM HERE.

I'M STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT, UM, GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER BETTER, UH, REALLY FOCUSING ON MUSIC AND THE HISTORY OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN, IN AUSTIN AND GIVING RECOGNITION, UH, TO THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN PARTICULAR BLACK MUSICIANS, UH, WHO HAVE LAID A STRONG FOUNDATION, UH, IN THIS CITY AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY AS IT RELATES TO MUSIC.

FIRST THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY FIRST, THANKS FOR THE GREAT ENTERTAINMENT TO START THIS MEETING OFF WITH, AND ALSO TO JUST KIND OF REFLECT AND ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, THE DIFFICULTY AND THE HARDSHIP THAT MUSICIANS ARE EXPERIENCED IN AS A RESULT OF THE PANDEMIC.

UH, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT OUR OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH THE MUSIC VENUES, UH, WAS JUST SO CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE AND UNPRECEDENTED IN TERMS OF, UH, WHAT THE KIND OF WORK THAT WE HAVE SEEN HAPPEN AROUND, UH, THESE, UH, ISSUES.

I WOULD SAY AUSTIN IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TO, TO REALLY PUT FORTH AN EFFORT LIKE THIS, TO SAY THAT, UH, HOW IMPORTANT EQUITY AND INCLUSION IS AND THE MUSIC BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AND TO ACTUALLY, UH, RECOGNIZE, UM, HOLLY IMPORTANT THAT IS TO MAINTAIN AND, UH, AND LIFTING UP THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL.

UH, WE WERE, HAD NOT BEFORE WORKED, UH, WITH SUCH A GROUP WE'RE USED TO WORKING WITH, UH, SYSTEMS LIKE EDUCATION FORDS, JUVENILE JUSTICE, HEALTH, HOUSING, CITY POLICE.

UH, AND SO WHEN THIS OPPORTUNITY CAME, WE WEREN'T QUITE SURE WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE WE WOULD GET, UH, FROM PEOPLE IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY ON A CONVERSATION THAT WAS ABOUT INSTITUTIONAL AND STRUCTURAL RACISM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE DIALOGUE WAS ABOUT.

UH, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT I AM SO PROUD OF HOW ALL OF THEM CAME INTO THIS DIALOGUE OPEN.

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AND SO I WOULD ROLE WAS TO INTRODUCE WHAT WE CALL A GROUNDWATER ANALYSIS.

AND THIS ANALYSIS IS ACTUALLY BASED ON UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, AS IT RELATED TO THE LACK OF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, UH, IS NOT VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE SEE IN ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS AND INSTITUTIONS, RIGHT.

THAT WHEN WE FIND THAT THERE ARE SOME INEQUITIES, THERE ARE GENERALLY, UH, IMPACT THE SAME POPULATION OF PEOPLE.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN THE BROAD CONTEXT, UH, ALWAYS MOVING PEOPLE TOWARDS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT NONE OF WHAT WE WERE ENGAGING IN WAS ABOUT INDIVIDUAL RACISM NOR ABOUT WHO IS RACIST.

AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY HELPED TO BRING PEOPLE IN, UH, WE GOT SUCH WONDERFUL, UH, THOUGHTS AND IDEAS, UH, THAT HAVE GONE FORWARD TO HELP, TO REALLY FUEL AND FEEL AND, AND, AND MAKE THE EQUITY PLANS, UH, THAT THEY ULTIMATELY SUBMITTED, UH, COME ALIVE AND COME ALIVE, REFLECTING NEW PRINCIPLES AROUND EIGHT ANTI-RACISM.

AND HOW DO YOU REALLY GET TO, UH, EQUITY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION? AND IT WAS REALLY GREAT IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE WE ONLY HAD ONE BLACK MUSICIAN OUT OF ABOUT, I MEAN, MUSIC VENUE, UH, OUT OF MAYBE ABOUT 50 PEOPLE.

AND, UH, THAT PERSON ACTUALLY DID NOT STAY IN THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS, BUT HIS VOICE WAS SO VERY STRONG, UH, IN THE VERY BEGINNING.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TO REALLY STRETCH IN THEIR THINKING AND UNDERSTANDING OF THESE ISSUES.

NOW, UM, I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU, UH, WHAT WOULD YOU BE MOST INTERESTED IN KNOWING ABOUT, UH, OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THOSE MUSIC VENUES? WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU BE MOST INTERESTED IN KNOWING? UM, WELL, I MEAN, WOULD, AND I DID SEE SOME OF THE, THE RESPONSES FROM THE VENUES ABOUT, UH, MEASURES BAY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE AND CHANGING THEIR, THEIR PRACTICES FOR, UM, BOOKING BANDS AND EVEN STAFFING AND SO ON.

IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UM, THE, THE VENUES ARE GOING TO BE MAKING AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE STEPPING UP, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO HEAR.

DOING A FURTHER REVIEW OF THEIR PLANS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ALIGNED WITH THOSE PRINCIPLES THAT WOULD MEET THE GUIDELINES.

AND, AND IF I, IF I CAN, IF YOU CAN ALLOW ME, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT I COULD SHARE WITH YOU THAT WOULD REFLECT THAT IF, IF I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THOSE, BUT LET ME JUST SAY THAT.

SO THEY WENT THROUGH A WORKSHOP WHERE WE INTRODUCED PRINCIPLES AND DEFINITIONS AROUND DIFFERENT FORMS OF RACISM, INDIVIDUAL, INSTITUTIONAL, STRUCTURAL.

UH, THEN WE, UH, INTRODUCED THIS GROUNDWATER ANALYSIS, WHICH REALLY SPOKE TO, UH, THE FACT THAT THE INEQUITIES EXIST IN ALL OF OUR SYSTEMS THAT WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT BY LOOKING INTERNAL TO SYSTEMS AND COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS VERSUS LOOKING AT INDIVIDUALS THAT IT WASN'T ABOUT A FEW BAD APPLES, THAT IT WASN'T ABOUT POINTING FINGERS AND LAYING BLAME, BUT THAT A POWERFUL PIECE OF WHAT WE NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND WAS HOW WE HAD ALL BEEN SOCIALIZED AROUND RACE AND HOW THAT SHAPED THE LENS THROUGH WHICH WE SEE MUSICIANS OF COLOR AND HOW IT COULD UNINTENTIONALLY IMPACT WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE ACTUALLY INCLUDING THEM.

AND SO, UH, WE DID THAT, AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH A DEBRIEF WHERE THEY CAME BACK AFTER A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO REFLECT ON THAT NEW INFORMATION.

AND THEY HAD SOME OF THE MOST EYE OPENING REFLECTIONS, UH, AS IT RELATED TO JUST GOING THROUGH THAT FIRST WORKSHOP.

AND I CAN SHARE A FEW OF THOSE WITH YOU.

I COULD ALSO ASK WENDY TO SHARE A FEW, BUT THEN WE MOVED TO A STRATEGY SESSION WHERE WE USE THE FRAMEWORK, UH, TO PUT SOME INFORMATION UNDER VARIOUS COMPONENTS AND THAT WOULD DRIVE THEIR EQUITY PLANS.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT SOME OF THE IDEAS OF THE IDEAS THAT, THAT WE CAME UP WITH, UH, WE JUST GOT THE, THEIR EQUITY PLANS, I THINK LIKE MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO.

AND I THINK THE PLANS WERE GOING TO GO TO THE EQUITY COMMITTEE, UH, AT PORT SOME COMMENTS AND WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THOSE BACK YET.

AND SO ONCE WE HAVE THOSE, WE WILL ACTUALLY BE

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WHEN DID, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING BEFORE I PUT THIS POWERPOINT UP? YEAH.

I, YOU KNOW, JAWS, I WAS JUST GOING TO JUST PROVIDE JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW, YOU KNOW, COMING IN INTO THE, THE FACILITATED DIALOGUE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE KEY, UM, UM, QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED FOLKS TO ANSWER IS ABOUT WHY THEY THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDO, UM, INSTITUTIONAL AND STRUCTURAL RACISM.

AND AS WE KIND OF WORKED THROUGH THEIR RESPONSES, THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF THREE OR FOUR KEY BUCKETS.

AND, AND, AND A COUPLE WE SEE ACROSS SYSTEMS WHO ARE DOING THIS KIND OF WORK, AND ONE THAT MAY BE SOMEWHAT UNIQUE TO THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AND, AND THE WHOLE, UM, THE ISSUE OF RACE AND RACISM.

SO FOR MOST OF THEM, THEY SAW IT AS BEING GOOD FOR BUSINESS THAT THEY EXPRESS MANY OF THEM, UH, THE DESIRE TO HAVE A MORE DIVERSE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, OFFERING OF MUSICIANS THAT WOULD ALSO TREND TOWARDS HAVING MORE DIVERSITY INSIDE THEIR INDIVIDUAL VENUES.

OTHERS KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT FROM THAT, UH, EQUAL OPPORTUNITY STANDPOINT, RECOGNIZING THAT IF WE'RE NOT INTENTIONAL, IF WE ARE NOT STRATEGIC, UH, IT WON'T HAPPEN THAT, UM, THAT ACTUALLY THE TREND HAS BEEN GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, WHERE WE'RE SEEING FEWER AND FEWER, UH, UH, UH, VANS OF COLOR, MUSICIANS OF COLOR HAVE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, IN, IN, IN AUSTIN, UH, AND, AND KIND OF MOVING AWAY FROM, UM, HAVING THAT DIVERSITY THAT MADE AUSTIN LEGENDARY.

BUT THE ONE THAT, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE UNDERCURRENT IS THE ISSUE OF FEAR THAT THERE REALLY IS A NEED TO HAVE THIS PUBLIC DISCOURSE.

AND I KNOW THAT IN YOUR, UH, STRATEGIC, WHAT, UM, UH, RACISM WORK GROUP THAT, UH, THERE WERE THREE POINTS THAT YOU LIFTED UP THAT WERE REALLY IMPORTANT AROUND, UH, PUBLIC DISCOURSE AND, UH, THE DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDING AND POLICY CHANGE WHILE THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE IS SO CRITICAL BECAUSE THOSE OLD STEREOTYPES AND THE IMPLICIT BIASES THAT, UM, CREATE FEAR, UH, AND MANY OF THE VENUES TALKED ABOUT JUST THAT BEING A REAL BARRIER, THAT EVEN IF YOU'RE BRINGING IN, UM, MUSICIANS OF COLOR, THAT THERE'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IN THAT, UH, NARRATIVE, THE SOCIALIZATION AROUND PEOPLE OF COLOR THAT WILL KEEP SOME PEOPLE FROM, UH, TAKING PART.

AND SO THERE'S REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE A TREMENDOUS PUSH, UH, INSIDE OUTSIDE SYSTEMS. WHEN I SAY SYSTEMS INSIDE THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND COMMUNITY, TO REALLY CHALLENGE THAT, TO CREATE SOME REAL OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, AND THAT FEAR WAS ALSO, UH, EXPRESSED IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH POLICING, UH, IT SEEMS THERE'S A SENSE THAT'S NEEDED, UH, WHEN THERE ARE CERTAIN KINDS OF MUSIC OR WHEN A PARTICULAR AUDIENCE IS GOING TO BE THERE, OR WHEN, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN MUSICIANS ARE GOING TO COME AND HOW, YOU KNOW, FOR US THAT SPEAKS TO A PIECE OF OUR MODEL THAT WE CALL CROSS SYSTEMS COLLABORATION.

AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WOULD ENGAGE IN, EVEN WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AROUND THESE ISSUES, AND THEY EVEN SPOKE ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES RELATED TO THE RATES OF INSURANCE.

UH, IF YOU WERE GOING TO BRING CERTAIN KINDS OF MUSIC IN THAT THE, THE INSURANCE RATES WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, BE VERY, VERY HIGH AS IT RELATED TO THAT.

AND IT WAS USUALLY MORE SPECIFIC TO THE TYPES OF MUSIC, UH, OF BLACK ARTISTS.

AND SO THAT IN ITSELF HELPED US TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE, UH, INSTITUTIONAL AND STRUCTURAL RACISM, YOU KNOW, WHAT FUELS THAT KIND OF FEAR, UH, THAT CREATES, UH, YOU KNOW, THE INEQUITIES AND ALSO THE DIVIDE AND, AND DOES NOT ALLOW THEM TO DO THE THINGS THAT THEY VERY SINCERELY EXPRESSED, UH, THAT THEY WANT IT TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE.

SO ANY, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

I THINK IF I JUST, THE BUTTONS NOT LIT UP TO SHARE, SO LET'S SEE ANY TECH I'LL GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU THAT OPTION.

TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT MAY BE CHALLENGING THEM, UH, IN THE WORK ENVIRONMENT, JUST, JUST A FEW MORE, AND THEN I'M GONNA GET TO, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THEY TALKED TO ABOUT THE THINGS THAT USED TO BE SUCCESSFUL FOR THEM.

SO, UH, JUST TO START WITH, UH, SHARON WITH YOU ALL, JUST A COUPLE OF THEIR REFLECTIONS THAT THEY HAD, UH, AFTER GOING THROUGH THE WORKSHOP,

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AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT SOMEONE SAID THE, AFTER THAT THEY WENT BACK TO THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS AND THEY HAD A THREE HOUR DISCUSSION WITH THEIR STAFF, UH, DISCUSSIONS THAT THEY DIDN'T GENERALLY HAVE BEFORE, UH, HOW THEY HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON WHAT THEY'D LEARNED, UH, RECOGNIZING THAT THEY DON'T SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE OF COLOR APPLYING FOR BAR JOBS.

SO THEY DECIDED TO GO OUT AND FIND THEM RATHER THAN WAITING FOR THEM TO COME IN AND KNOW, AND, AND THIS KIND OF NEW THINKING ACTUALLY EMERGED THROUGH THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO INTRODUCE INFORMATION AND ENGAGE.

UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT ATTRACTING MORE EVENTS, THAT FEATURE NON-WHITE CULTURES, UH, HOW AFTER GOING THROUGH THE WORKSHOP THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE MEDIA AND THE NEWS ARTICLES DIFFERENTLY, UH, AND THAT THEY WERE HAVING A LENS.

AND WE CALL THAT A RACIAL EQUITY LENS, WHERE THEY COULD SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY HAD SEEN THEM BEFORE, UM, THAT THEY OPENED THEIR STAGE TO ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF MUSIC, UH, THAT THEY WERE GOING TO WIDEN THEIR APPROACH TO OUTREACH.

AND THAT THE WAY THAT WE HAD DONE THIS WORK WOULD BE A KEY COMPONENT OF THE STRATEGY SESSION.

UH, THEY THOUGHT THAT THEIR VENUES, UH, HAD, EVEN THOUGH THEY HADN'T REOPENED, UH, THAT THEY HAD MET WITH OUR EMPLOYEES AND THAT THEY SEEM VERY RECEPTIVE TO EXPAND IN THEIR LENS.

UH, THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR WITH STAFF THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY FOR RACISM, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO COME UP WITH, UH, SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE COULD MOVE AWAY FROM WHAT WE CALL INDIVIDUAL RACISM, UH, TO REALLY LOOKING AT INSTITUTIONAL.

SO THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, HOW THEY WOULD PUSH BACK AGAINST ANTI-RACIST EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES IN SCHOOLS.

UH, THEY WANTED TO, UH, JUST REALLY THINK ABOUT, UH, HOW TO USE LANGUAGE DIFFERENTLY, UH, IN THEIR WORK AND THAT THEY WILL CHANGE IN SOME OF THEIR, UH, THE WORDS THAT THEY USE THAT SEEM TO BE A TRIGGER, UH, FOR SOME GROUPS.

AND SO THEY SAID IT WAS GOOD TO BE REMINDED TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND, UH, THAT SOMEONE REALIZED THAT THEY WERE ONE OF THE CLUBS THAT CLOSED DURING THE TEXAS RELAYS.

UH, THEY RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE ARE QUICK TO JUDGE, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHY.

UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CLOSING EXITS DOWNTOWN, AND HOW THEY HAD A TOTAL BREAKDOWN FOR THEIR MUSICIANS TO BE ABLE TO GET CLOSE TO THE VENUE.

AND SO THERE WAS SOME UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WERE OTHER SYSTEMS THAT IMPACT, UH, THEIR ABILITY TO REALLY CREATE THE KIND OF, UH, I WOULD SAY RACE NEUTRAL ENVIRONMENTS THAT THEY REALLY WANTED, UH, TO CREATE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE SERVING.

UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, A DEEP INTROSPECTIVE ON HOW INSTITUTIONAL RACISM CAN BE PRESENT IN THEIR VENUES, WITHOUT THEM EVEN BEING AWARE OF IT.

AND SO WE REALLY SPOKE TO HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS TO BECOME CONSCIOUSLY AWARE OF SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

UH, THEY HAD COME COMPENSATIONS USING THE WORD EQUITY, WHICH IS NOT A COMMON TERM THAT THEY USE IN THEIR CIRCLES.

SO LEARNING SOME NEW LANGUAGE, UH, DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE INSTITUTIONAL AND STRUCTURAL SIDE ISN'T SOMETHING THAT JUST STARTED, THAT THERE WAS A TO THIS.

AND WE WERE ABLE EVEN TO CONNECT SOME OF THAT HISTORY ALL THE WAY BACK TO, YOU KNOW, GENERATIONS AGO IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UH, SOMEONE APPRECIATED APPROACH AND RACISM FROM THE SYSTEMIC SIDE IN ORDER TO EDUCATE EMPLOYEES AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS FROM THAT VANTAGE POINT, JUST LOTS OF GOOD COMMENTS.

UH, I SAID, MOST PEOPLE ON THIS CALL ARE WHITE, UH, EQUITY AMONG MUSIC VENUE OWNERS IS A CONCERN.

AND SO THEY RECOGNIZE THAT WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY, ANY BLACK PEOPLE THAT WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE SESSION WITH US.

THERE WAS ONE GENTLEMAN THAT STARTED WITH US, UH, BEING BLACK MAKES ALL INEQUITIES WORSE AT THOSE WHO ADVOCATE FOR TRANS AND FEMINISM CAN ATTEST TO, UH, SOMEONE SAID THEY HAD INCREASED AWARENESS WHEN INTERACTING WITH EMPLOYEES, UH, PRIVILEGED AND MAY NOT BE THE PRESENCE OF PERKS, BUT THE, IT IS THE ABSENCE OF BARRIERS.

THEY REALIZE THAT THEY ARE ALL GATEKEEPERS.

AND WE HAD A VERY LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A GATEKEEPER AND HOW THEY CONTROL, WHO GETS IN AND WHO GETS OUT IN TERMS OF THE MUSIC VENUE.

AND WE SPENT LOTS OF TIME, UH, REALLY FOCUSING ON THAT, MAKING SURE THAT THEY WERE HEARING FROM THEIR EMPLOYEES AND CREATING THAT LIBERATED SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO

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SO LOOKING BACK, THEY SAID THEY USED TO HAVE UNDER AGE MUSIC EVENTS, UH, THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF LIABILITY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, BUT IT WAS A WAY TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.

UH, THEY CAME UP WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT MAYBE HAVING COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO ARE STUDYING MARKETING AND MUSIC INDUSTRY TO BE INTERNS IN THEIR VENUES.

UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT REALLY WORKING TO TRY TO FILL THE VACUUM, UH, WHERE THERE'S NO LONGER, UH, OPPORTUNITIES TO SHOWCASE TALENT POOL AND TO FIND A WAY TO BRING THAT BACK.

UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT HAVING SPACE BETWEEN THE WORKSHOP AND THE DEBRIEF AND THE STRATEGY SESSION AND HOW THAT REALLY GAVE THEM A CHANCE TO REFLECT AND TO CONTRIBUTE MORE WHEN IT CAME TIME TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THE PERMANENT CHANGES THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE HAPPEN.

UM, THEY TALKED ABOUT FOUNDATIONS CREATE AN EQUITY IN SCHOOLS, WHERE THERE IS A LACK OF ACCESS.

AND INSTEAD OF GIVING TAX BREAKS TO CORPORATIONS FOR APPS, PUT SOME OF THAT MONEY INTO THE EDUCATION SYSTEM, UH, WE DID A LONG EXERCISE ON THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EQUITY AND EQUALITY.

AND I THINK THEY REALLY GOT THAT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU HAVE TO STEP OUTSIDE OF YOUR EXPERIENCES AND REALLY LOOK AT THE EXPERIENCES OF PEOPLE WHOSE EXPERIENCES WITH SYSTEMS AND INSTITUTIONS ARE DIFFERENT WHEN OFTENTIMES THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS RACE.

AND SO THEY, THEY TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE MUSIC VENUES COULD DO TO ATTRACT MORE APPLICATIONS FROM PEOPLE OF COLOR.

THEY TALKED ABOUT UPDATING A LIST OF BLACK MUSICIANS THAT MIGHT BE OUTDATED SO THAT THEY MADE SURE THAT THEY HAD AN ALL INCLUSIVE, UPDATED LIST.

UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT AUDITS BEING ABLE TO REGISTER WITH THE MUSIC COMMISSION, BUT THAT IS A HUGE DATABASE LIKE THE WHITE PAGES.

UM, THEY BRAINSTORMED ABOUT FINDING MUSICIANS ON POLLSTAR AND OTHER INTERNATIONAL BOOKING GROUPS.

AND THEY ALSO REQUESTED THAT SOMEONE FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION CLARIFY WHAT'S NEEDED IN VENUE FIND, FIND YOUR FUNDING APPLICATION PROCESS.

AND WE DID HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND SPEAK TO THAT.

SO THIS IS THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE INTRODUCED TO THEM, UH, THAT COULD BE USED AS A GUIDE, UH, FOR THE, UM, THE EQUITY, UH, UH, REPORTS THAT THEY HAD TO PUT IN EQUITY PLANS.

AND SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THEM AS IT RELATED TO WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY GO INTO AN EQUITY PLAN.

AND SO THE FIRST ONE HAD TO DO WITH DATA DRIVEN STRATEGIES, WHERE WE WOULD REGULARLY COLLECT RESEARCH, ANALYZE, AND EVALUATE DATA BY RACE AND ETHNICITY.

AND SO, AGAIN, REVIEWING AND UPDATING THAT AUSTIN LIST OF BLACK MUSICIANS, UH, REVIEW AND UPDATE THE CULTURAL MAPPING PROCESS AND MAPPED ALL CULTURAL SPACES, UH, EXPLORING WAYS TO FILTER THE HUGHES, HUGE MUSIC INDUSTRY DATABASE FOR MUSICIANS OF COLOR.

SO HOW DO WE CREATE, UH, SOME TYPE OF DATABASE THAT WOULD GIVE THEM ACCESS TO A POOL OF, UH, MUSICIANS OF COLOR? SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE READILY AVAILABLE.

IT TALKED ABOUT SEARCH AND POLLSTAR AND OTHER INTERNATIONAL BOOKINGS FOR MUSICIANS OF COLOR, UH, ENCOURAGE MUSICIANS WHO DON'T HAVE AN AGENT TO JOIN A DATABASE.

AND THEN WE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE BENCHMARKS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR THEM? SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EQUITY PLAN, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE STARTING, WHAT ARE THE EXISTING BID BENCHMARKS, AND HOW WILL YOU MONITOR AND EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S ANY PROCESS BEING MADE.

SO WHERE DO YOU START, UH, HOW WILL THE VENUES DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY'RE ACHIEVING THE GOALS AND WHAT WILL BE THE EVIDENCE? AND THEN THEY TALKED ABOUT COLLECTING DATA ON EMPLOYEES, JUST AGGREGATED BY RACE AS A POSSIBLE STARTING POINT.

SO WHO DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE WORKING FOR YOU IN YOUR MUSIC VENUE? AND CAN YOU SET SOME TYPE OF GOAL TO BE INTENTIONAL AND DELIBERATE ABOUT INCREASING THE DIVERSITY IN VARIOUS AREAS OF THAT MUSIC VENUE, UM, MAKE PUBLIC THE NUMBER OF BLACK MUSIC VENUES, AND SOMEONE SAID THERE WAS ONLY THREE THAT THAT SHOULD BE MADE PUBLIC, AND THEN THAT SHOULD BE CAUSED, UH, SOME DESIRE TO, UH, WORK TOGETHER TO INCREASE THAT EXPLORE BEST PRACTICES IN PFLUGERVILLE, ROUND ROCK AND MAIN ARE REGARDING ATTRACTED BLACK PEOPLE.

APPARENTLY THERE WAS SOME SENSE THAT THE INDUSTRY AROUND

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BUSINESS FOR BLACK PEOPLE WAS GROWING MORE IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS AND THAT, THAT MIGHT BE, HAVE BEEN AN AREA THAT, THAT THEY COULD TAP INTO.

AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS LIKE LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? SO HOW DO WE DEVELOP LEADERS, UH, WHO CAN, UH, TAKE, YOU KNOW, TAKE, UH, TAKE THE, UH, LEADING POSITION IN FIGURING OUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE THESE THINGS FORWARD? AND SO THEY TALKED ABOUT EXPLORING WAYS TO BECOME MORE APPEALING AS AN EMPLOYER, TO PEOPLE OF ALL RACES.

SO WHAT COULD THEY DO IN THEIR ADVERTISEMENT, UH, IN HOW PEOPLE WERE GREETED WHEN THEY COME INTO THE PLACES THAT WOULD, UH, MAKE THE SPACE MORE APPEALING AND DESIRABLE, UH, THAT WERE, THEY WOULD MOVE BEYOND RHETORIC, RHETORIC OF RACIAL EQUITY AND ACTUALLY WALKED THE WALK WITH OUT OF THE BOX STRATEGIES FOR HIRING.

AND SO THINGS LIKE IF PEOPLE AREN'T COMING TO US, HOW DO WE TAKE A LOOK INWARD AND SAY, WELL, WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE MUSIC VENUE AND HOW WE OPERATE THAT MAY BE KEEPING PEOPLE AWAY AND WHAT CAN WE DO DIFFERENTLY TO ATTRACT? SO IT'S, IT'S THAT COMPONENT.

AND, UM, THAT WE TALK QUITE A BIT ABOUT THAT.

WE DON'T ALWAYS LOOK OUTSIDE FOR WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE, BUT THAT WE ALSO BECOME WHAT WE CALL CRITICAL LOVERS OF OUR VENUES, UH, THAT WE WANT AND DESIRE, UH, DIVERSITY AND EQUITY AND INCLUSION, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXAMINE WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE DOING THAT MAY BE A BARRIER OR CHALLENGES, AND TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO REACH OUT, INSTEAD OF JUST WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO COME, UH, ASK THE CITY TO PUT THEIR MONEY WHERE THEIR MOUTH IS, AND FINANCIALLY SUPPORT, LESSER KNOWN BANDS OF COLOR.

UH, THEY WANTED TO REQUEST THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD PROVIDE GREATER TRANSPARENCY REGARDING DISTRIBUTION OF THE LONG CENTER FUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND SO THOSE WERE SOME, AND THEN THERE WAS THE ONE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAD A CULTURALLY COMPETENT WORKFORCE AND THAT, UH, THEY WERE INCORPORATING RACIAL EQUITY LANGUAGE INTO THE WORKPLACE FOR ALL THEIR EMPLOYEES, THAT THEY WERE PROVIDING A SAFE SPACE FOR EMPLOYEES TO EXPRESS TRAUMA THAT THEY MAY BE EXPERIENCING FROM ONGOING EVENTS.

AND THAT DISCUSSION WAS REALLY AROUND THE FACT THAT IF YOU HAVE, UH, BLACKS, HISPANICS, OTHER POPULATIONS OF COLOR WORKING IN YOUR VENUES, AND THERE IS A LOT GOING ON ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AS IT RELATES TO THE IMPACT OF RACE AND RACISM THAT PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COME TO WORK EVERY DAY AND PRETEND, AND HAVE EVERYBODY AROUND THEM, PRETEND LIKE THEY'RE NOT EXPERIENCED IN TRAUMA.

SO, YOU KNOW, NOT TO MAKE THE MUSIC VENUE A THERAPY PLACE, BUT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE TRAUMA THAT PEOPLE MAY BE EXPERIENCING AND TO PROVIDE A SAFE SPACE FOR THOSE THINGS TO BE, UH, CONSIDERED PROVIDE MORE ON THE JOB TRAINING FROM A RACIAL EQUITY LENS, IN ALL ASPECTS OF MUSIC VENUES VERSUS REQUIRING SCHOOL TRAINING.

SO THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW CAN YOU REACH OUT AND HAVE PEOPLE COME IN AND ACTUALLY LEARN ON THE JOB AND, AND MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS MAYBE TO SCHOOLS, OR MAYBE THROUGH OTHER COMMUNITY RESOURCES THAT COULD HELP CONNECT TO PEOPLE OF COLOR ASSURE THAT ALL CUSTOMERS FEEL WELCOME AT THE DOOR.

FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE OWNERS CHANGED THE NAME FROM SECURITY TO HOST, YOU KNOW, SO JUST LANGUAGE CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE ARE RECEIVED AND THE VENUES.

AND SO NO LONGER REFERRED TO THE STAFF AS SECURITY, BUT RATHER ASKED TO HOST AND APPLY OUT OF THE BOX THINKING.

AND RISK-TAKING SUCH AS RESPECT TO HIRING NON-TRADITIONAL WORKERS, SUCH AS THE HOMELESS OR FORMERLY INCARCERATED.

AND SO THEY WERE REALLY LOOKING AT BROADENING THE, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FOR PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT RACIAL INEQUITIES EXIST IN ALL OF THOSE OTHER SYSTEMS. SO IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, IN HOUSING AND EMPLOYMENT, AND HOW DO THOSE THINGS CONTRIBUTE TO PEOPLE BEING HOMELESS OR ACTUALLY BEING FORMALLY INCARCERATED.

UH, AND SO THEY WERE OPEN TO THAT, TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO CONSIDER HIRING NON-TRADITIONAL WORKERS, UH, ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY WAS ANOTHER BIG COMPONENT THAT WE GAVE THEM IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO INCLUDE SOME OF THIS ACTUALLY IN THE, UH, IN THE PLANS.

SO EXPLORING WAYS TO, UH, I'M TRYING TO MOVE THIS A LITTLE BIT, EXPLORING WAYS TO FIND APPLICANTS OF COLOR

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I'M GONNA MOVE IN.

SO I CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE, JUST A SECOND.

GIVE ME A MINUTE HERE.

I CAN JUST MOVE THIS OVER A LITTLE BIT, THIS OVER, UH, EXPLORING WAYS TO FIND APPLICANTS OF COLOR, UH, FOR SOME OF THEIR POSITIONS VERSUS WAITING FOR THEM TO COME.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SAID IN ONE OF THE OTHERS, EXPLORE WAYS TO BOOK MORE EVENTS THAT FEATURE NONWHITE CULTURES FIND WAYS TO ASSURE THAT INTERNAL COMMUNICATION AND DEMEANOR IS WELCOMING TO EXTERNAL PATIENTS, PATIENTS, PATRONS.

AND THEN, UH, ONCE A GROUP IS IDENTIFIED AS ANTI-RACIST, YOU KNOW, FIND OPPORTUNITIES TO SHARE THEIR AVAILABILITY AT OTHER VENUES WHEN THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING AT YOURS.

AND SO THERE WAS LOTS OF DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THE MUSIC VENUES COULD COLLABORATE AND PARTNER WITH ONE ANOTHER, SO THAT IF SOME HAD ACCESS TO CERTAIN MUSICIANS, THAT THEY MIGHT EVEN SUPPORT THOSE MUSICIANS BY REFERRING THEM TO OTHER MUSIC VENUES THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO MAYBE HAVE MORE BUSINESS THAN THEY WOULD ORDINARILY HAVE.

UH, AND THEN INVITING COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO ARE STUDYING MARKETING, WE'VE MENTIONED THOSE THINGS, AND I'M GETTING TO THE END OF THIS, UH, PROMOTE THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT OF MUSIC, UH, IN SCHOOLS, RIGHT, PROVIDE A PANEL DISCUSSION ON RACIAL EQUITY AT SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST.

WE WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS SO NEW AND INNOVATIVE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU HAVE PROVIDED FOR YOUR MUSIC VENUES.

BUT ALSO IT SPEAKS TO THE EXPECTATIONS THAT THE CITY HAS THAT AUSTIN, UH, THE MUSIC TEAM HERE IS TRULY WHAT IT PRESENTS THAT IT IS RIGHT, THAT, THAT IT IS THE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, THAT IT IS INCLUSIVE, THAT IT IS DIVERSE, AND THAT YOU ARE REALLY WORKING IN NEW AND INNOVATIVE WAYS TO, TO MAINTAIN THAT.

AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN EXCELLENT SESSION AT SOUTHWEST SOUTHWEST, FIND WAYS TO SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THE BIG, EASY, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY WOULD BE A SOURCE.

I THINK THAT WAS THE ONE BLACK RESTAURANT, UH, THE, UH, ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN THAT HAD PARTICIPATED PARTIALLY THROUGH.

AND THEN I DID NOT GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH ADVOCATE FOR, AND SUPPORT THE FORMULATION OF GRASSROOTS MUSIC ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEN DECIDE WHO ELSE TO INVITE TO THE TABLE TO JOIN THE CONVERSATION.

THEY WANTED TO INCLUDE REPRESENTATIVES FROM 3, 1, 1 AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, AND THEN WHO ELSE WAS THE DIALOGUE THAT WAS GOING ON.

SO, UH, THEY WANTED TO WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ENSURE THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE UNNECESSARY POLICING, UH, THAT WOULD AFFECT THE CLOSURE OF THEIR BUSINESS.

THEY WANTED TO FIND WAYS FOR THE CITY TO HEAR FROM THE MUSIC VENUES REGARDING THE EFFECTS OF CITY POLICY AND HOW, UH, PROPERTY TAXES AND OTHER THINGS AND PAPERWORK, UH, HAD AN IMPACT ON THEIR ABILITY TO COMPLY WITH, UH, ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND WANTED TO ESTABLISH A FORUM FOR CLUB OWNERS, TO MEET PERIODICALLY WITH THE MAYOR AND OTHER CITY LEADERS TO DISCUSS WHAT MORE THE CITY COULD DO TO ASSIST AND WHAT MORE THE VENUES NEED TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND SOME OF THOSE TOPICS WERE IN REGARD TO THE IMPACT OF WHAT THEY CONSIDERED TO BE REALLY HIGH TAXES, UH, THE COST OF HOUSING ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION OVER POLICING AT CERTAIN VENUES.

AND SO THEY WANTED A WAY TO ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD BY CITY LEADERS AROUND THESE ISSUES.

UH, ONE TOPIC THAT CAME UP REPEATEDLY WAS ABOUT THE COST OF INSURANCE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW THE HIGHER INSURANCE PREMIUM IMPACTED THEIR ABILITY TO BRING IN CERTAIN HIP HOP GROUPS AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS WARRANTED, UH, BECAUSE IT WAS CONSIDERED A RISK, RIGHT? AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT HOW, UH, THINGS OFTEN BECOME A RISK BASED ON HOW WE HAVE BEEN SOCIALIZED TO THINK ABOUT CERTAIN GROUPS AND WHO'S DANGEROUS.

AND WHO'S MORE LIKELY TO, YOU KNOW, UH, CREATE A SCENE WHERE, YOU KNOW, TROUBLE MAKERS WILL SHOW UP AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT, THAT DRIVE, UH, COST.

SO THEY WANTED TO ASK FOR A SEAT AT THE TABLE AT THE NATIONAL INDEPENDENT VENUE ASSOCIATIONS TO JOIN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLE AUSTIN MUSIC, VENUES, GROUP INSURANCE.

I MEAN, MAYBE THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I DON'T KNOW, UH, EXPLORE WAYS FOR MENTORING AND TUTORING, MENTAL AND MENTAL MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS

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LOOK FOR WAYS FOR THE MUSIC VENUE OWNERS, VOICES TO BE HEARD, UH, COLLABORATE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, COLLABORATE, UH, WITH THE CHAMBER AND OTHER ENTITIES THAT MARKET AUSTIN TO ENHANCE MARKETING MATERIALS OF MUSIC VENUES THROUGH A RACIAL EQUITY LENS.

SO IT'S LIKE, HOW ARE WE PUTTING OUT MATERIALS THAT WOULD CONVEY TO MUSICIANS OF COLOR THAT WE REALLY WERE WANTED THEM RIGHT.

TO BE INCLUDED, UH, IN, IN THE MUSIC SCENE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, IT WASN'T, WHAT IS IT A MESSAGE OF INCLUSION? AND SO TO EXAMINE THE MARKET AND MATERIALS, UH, TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND THE RACIAL EQUITY LENS, THEY WANTED TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS CHALLENGES IN MARKETING AND PROMOTING BASED ON OBSERVATIONS THAT WHILE WHITE PEOPLE AREN'T AFRAID OF BLACKS ON STAGE, WHEN THEY START MINGLING WITH THE CROWD, THEIR BODY LANGUAGE CHANGES.

AND SO THERE WAS SOME RECOGNITION ABOUT THIS FEAR THAT WENDY MENTIONED IN THE VERY BEGINNING THAT THAT'S GOING TO TAKE, NOT ONLY MUSIC VENUES, RIGHT, BUT THE WHOLE CULTURE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT EXISTS WITHIN THE CITY AND HOW WE'VE BEEN SOCIALIZED, UH, AS IT RELATES TO, TO WHAT'S DANGEROUS.

UH, THIS IS THE LAST, UH, ASSURE THE AWARENESS OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S HISTORY, ESPECIALLY, UH, THE 1928, ESPECIALLY THE, THE 1928 MASTER PLAN, RIGHT.

THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THE MUSIC VENUES TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION, UH, TO EXPLORE THE MUSIC HISTORY OF AUSTIN AND THE ROLE OF BLACK PEOPLE IN BUILDING AUSTIN'S REPUTATION AS THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, AND TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST THAT WITH THE EFFECTS OF WATER, GENDER PETRIFIED LOCATION.

AND SO LEARNING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE ROLE OF BLACK PEOPLE IN THE HISTORY, BLUES, JAZZ, RHYTHM, AND BLUES, TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE ROOT CAUSES.

WHY IS IT THAT BLACK PEOPLE ARE LEAVING AUSTIN? WHY IS IT THAT WE DON'T SEE THE DIVERSITY OF PEOPLE COMING TO THE MUSIC VENUES IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN? AND WHY IS IT THAT WE CAN'T REACH A MORE DIVERSE GROUP OF BLACK MUSICIANS BECAUSE THEY DO EXIST.

IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE NON-EXISTENT, THEY DO EXIST.

AND SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE AND HOW TO REACH THEM? AND SO THEY AGREED THAT ONE OF THEIR QUICK WINS WOULD BE TO SHARE EMAILS, PROMOTE BANDS ON TOUR WITH MULTIPLE AUSTIN VENUES AND OTHERS.

AND THEN IN THE END, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR INFORMATION, ALL OF THIS THINKING CAME FROM THE PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE WORKSHOP.

IT'S NOT, WE DIDN'T GIVE THAT TO THEM.

THEY WERE ABLE TO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE FACILITATED DIALOGUE, COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN TO HAVE A MORE INCLUSIVE AND DIVERSE, UH, YOU KNOW, MUSIC INDUSTRY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, JEWISH, UH, FOR SHARING.

UH, UH, DEFINITELY, UH, IF THERE'S ANY, UH, PEOPLE OF COLOR WATCHING THIS, THIS IS NOT NEWS TO US.

UM, NONE OF THIS IS NEWS TO US.

WE HAVE STRUGGLED IN THIS SYSTEM, UM, AGAINST THIS SYSTEM, WITHIN THE SYSTEM, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, WE HAVE FACED THESE, UM, REPERCUSSIONS OF THESE VENUE OWNERS, NOT UNDERSTANDING SO MANY OF THESE VERY OBVIOUS TRUTHS IN OUR LIVES.

AND SO, UM, WHILE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US WATCHING MIGHT BE LIKE, WELL, OF COURSE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THESE VENUE OWNERS HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS AND THAT THEY'RE FINALLY FINALLY IN 2021 BECOMING AWARE OF THE WAYS THAT, UM, THEIR ACTIONS OR INACTIONS, UM, HAVE IMPACTED AN ENTIRE COMMUNITY MUSICIANS.

UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS IMPORTANT WORK, UM, TO SOME PEOPLE WATCHING THIS, THEY MAY AGAIN SEE LIKE, WELL, THIS ISN'T THIS JUST KIND OF OBVIOUS.

WELL, OBVIOUSLY IT WAS NOT TO A LOT OF THESE FOLKS.

UM, AND THERE, THERE ARE A HOLES IN THE WAYS IN WHICH THEY OPERATE, WHICH, UM, NOW THEY'RE MORE AWARE OF, AND HOPEFULLY JUST THESE ACTS SOME CONSTRUCTIVE CHANGES.

I CAN DEFINITELY SEE MYSELF PERSONALLY, UM, OVER THE LAST, UH, SINCE WE'VE OPENED, I'M SEEING A LOT MORE DIVERSITY IN TERMS OF THE BOOKING, UM, IN THESE VENUES THAT I WASN'T SEEING, UM, PREVIOUS, UH, TO THE PANDEMIC AND A LOT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS.

SO I'M SEEING SOME OF THE, YOU

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KNOW, OUTWARD, UM, FIT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL TANGIBLE, VISIBLE, UM, RESULTS OF THESE CONVERSATIONS.

AND WE JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTINUE.

UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK AGAIN, THROUGH THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP.

UM, BUT THIS IS GREAT WORK.

THIS IS GREAT WORK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING IT AND LEADING IT.

THANK YOU, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT THIS HAPPENED.

UM, AND YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THOUGHTS, FEEDBACK, QUICK QUESTION.

I KNOW YOU, UH, YOU SAID Y'ALL DID WITH ITS 50 VENUES AND I WAS CURIOUS, NO, IT WAS, I DIDN'T, IT WASN'T CLEAR.

THE QUESTION WAS MUFFLED.

I'M SORRY.

I CAN'T.

I WAS TRYING TO FIND OUT, UH, CAUSE THIS IS A QUESTION I'VE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY, UH, BEEN TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW MANY OF THOSE, UH, VENUE SPACES OUT OF THE 50 WERE LATINO OWNED.

THEY'RE THEY'RE MORE, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER HOW MANY WERE LATINO OWNED? JOYCE? I THINK I ONLY REMEMBER MAYBE THREE OR FOUR.

AND WHEN I SAY THREE OR FOUR, I THINK THERE WAS ONE OWNER WHO HAD TWO VENUES.

I CAN'T THINK OF HIS NAME IS HE LIVES OUT IN WEST LAKE.

HE USED TO LIVE IN DEB SPRINGS, BUT I THINK HE HAD TWO.

AND THEN, AND THEN THERE WAS ONE THAT'S ON, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE NAME OF THE STREET.

I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES WITH ME, BUT I THINK WE REALLY HAD THREE REPRESENTING MAYBE FOUR VINEYARDS.

GOTCHA, GOTCHA.

AND IT'S, IT'S CLEAR THAT THOSE VENUES ARE ACTUALLY UNDERREPRESENTED AS WELL.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, YES.

I'D LOVE TO SEE THEM GET, YOU KNOW, THE SAME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ATTENTION, LIKE, CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ONLY ONE BLACK AND I'D LOVE TO SEE WITH BOTH WITH, YOU KNOW, BOTH, ALL PEOPLE OF COLOR, YOU KNOW, IF, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE Y'ALL, WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR THAT EQUITY, RIGHT? YES.

AND WE ALL DESERVE THAT SHINE.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SINCE IT'S, YOU CAN LITERALLY PUT THEM ON ONE HAND.

YOU CAN'T BE GIVING THEM ALL THAT LOVE.

YES MA'AM YEAH.

THINK WE HAD A NUMBER ORIGINALLY OF 78 VENUES, UH, AND OF THE 78.

AND I KNEW THAT THERE WERE THREE THAT WERE, UH, BLACK AFRICAN-AMERICAN OWNED AND I THINK THERE WERE THREE OR FOUR THAT WERE HISPANIC, LATINO.

UM, BUT I THINK WE HAD ABOUT 58 ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE SESSION.

SO THERE ARE A FEW WE DIDN'T SEE, BUT, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE, ON THE COUNT, BUT WE WERE GOING TO FIND OUT.

AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION WAS AROUND THE INEQUITIES THAT EXIST FOR BLACKS AND OTHER VENUES, UH, YOU KNOW, OTHER POPULATIONS AS WELL.

AND SO THE EQUITY PLANS SHOULD SPEAK BROADLY, UH, TO THOSE THINGS.

RIGHT.

BUT THE FOCUS, UH, WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT IN TERMS OF, UM, UH, BLACK MUSICIANS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE POPULATION DECLINE IN, UH, IN AUSTIN, RIGHT.

IS TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT HOW, WHAT OTHER KINDS OF OUTREACH CAN YOU DO BEYOND JUST RIGHT HERE.

UH, AND THEN TO UNDERSTAND THE RACIAL INEQUITIES AND THE UNDERLYING CAUSES FOR BOTH THOSE GROUPS.

NOT, NOT JUST NOT DO FOR ONE YES.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING THEIR PLANS AS WELL, TOO.

UH, SO WHEN THEIR PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND WE'RE WAITING FOR COMMENTS, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE REVIEWING GOALS TO LOOK FOR WHETHER OR NOT THEY ACTUALLY ARE ALIGNED WITH AND REFLECT, UH, THE KIND OF STRATEGIES THAT WOULD YIELD A MORE DIVERSE RACIALLY AND ETHNICALLY DIVERSE, UH, POPULATION.

FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, JAMES LAUREN, YOU HAD A COMMENT.

BE IN IT TO WIN IT WITH THESE VENUES AND WITH THE MUSICIANS TO PROVIDE ONGOING SUPPORT, WHATEVER IS NEEDED SO THAT WE'RE NOT SETTING PEOPLE UP FOR FAILURE WITH, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING THE TOOLS OR THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED.

YOU KNOW, ANSWERED MY QUESTION QUESTION.

I WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP THERE WAS GOING TO BE TO, UH, TO THIS RESEARCH AND, AND CONVERSATION AND JUST TO SEE, UH, IT FEELS LIKE A REALLY GOOD FIRST LAYER.

UH, AND, UH, I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE NEXT CONVERSATION WOULD, WOULD UNCOVER.

SO, UH, YEAH, I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU'LL BE FOLLOWING UP.

SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

AND ALSO IN ADDITION TO JOYCE, UH, FOLLOWING UP INDIVIDUALLY TO FINALIZE THESE PLANS, THE CITY WILL ALSO

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SO ANYTHING THE CITY, THE ABILITY TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, TO PROVIDE THAT SUPPORT.

THANK YOU FOR THE VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION.

I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT HOW MUCH EFFORT AND BRAINSTORMING SESSIONS THIS MUST HAVE TAKEN TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE FOLD AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH THESE, THESE IDEAS AND UNDERSTANDING AROUND THE ISSUES.

UM, IT'S, UM, IT'S A VERY BROAD SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A NEED TO HAVE A VERY MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH TO ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

IT'S NEVER ONE OR TWO THINGS THAT WILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE, BUT, UH, IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING, UM, ARTISTS OF COLOR, UH, NOT ONLY ARTISTS OF COLOR, BUT ALSO HOW DO YOU ENGAGE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY OF SAME, RIGHT? UH, HOW HAVE YOU PRIORITIZE WHAT YOUR TOP THREE OR FOUR ITEMS ARE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE GOING TO BE CONSTRAINTS, RESOURCES AND BANDWIDTH WISE, SO HAPPY PRIORITIZE.

WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO TALK IN FIRST? SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE A FEW.

SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.

AND, UM, AND, AND DO WE HAVE ANYTHING, UH, IN TERMS OF HARD DATA, UH, EVEN IF IT'S NOT PERFECT IN TERMS OF WHAT DESCRIBES THE STATUS AS OF TODAY.

SO THEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPARE THE OUTCOMES AGAINST SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

BUT 10 REQUEST IS IN, IT'S JUST A REQUEST BECAUSE ANY STARTING POINT AND AT THIS LEVEL OF COMPREHENSION IS, IS, IS BEAUTIFUL.

UH, BUT, BUT BEING FROM THE ONLY COMMISSIONER HERE FROM THE ASIAN COMMUNITY, I WOULD MAKE A REQUEST TO INCLUDE MEMBERS FROM A DIVERSE, UM, YOU KNOW, BACKGROUND, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE OF COLOR SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE INPUTS BECAUSE, AND I DON'T WANT TO GENERALIZE THIS BECAUSE I'VE HAD ONLY A FEW CONVERSATIONS, BUT EVEN WITH AN EQUITY, WHAT I HAVE SOMETIMES FACED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, ESPECIALLY TAPPING ENGAGEMENT EARLIER AS WELL, IS THAT EVEN WITHIN THAT CONVERSATION, ISSUE, ARTISTS SEEM TO BE A BIT OF AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH AWARENESS.

UM, YOU KNOW, TO GO AHEAD AND CHECK THAT BOX TOO, IF YOU NEED TO CHECK THAT BOX, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EVEN GETTING CHECKED AT SOME PLACES.

SO I WOULD REALLY MAKE THAT REQUEST TO BRING THAT VERY LESS INTO THE MIX AS WELL ON THE DEAL TO YOU.

ONCE WE HAVE THE PLANS, UH, THEN WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA ABOUT HOW WELL DID PEOPLE INTERNALIZE INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO PUT STRATEGIES DOWN ON PAPER THAT CAN COME TO LIFE AND LIVE AND BREATHE, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE IS NO QUICK FIX FOR THIS, BUT WE ALSO ALWAYS TRY TO HELP THEM TO COME UP WITH AT LEAST A FEW QUICK WINS, BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO NOW, RIGHT.

AND I, UH, I WILL YIELD TO, UH, ERICA AND STEPHANIE IN A MINUTE ABOUT WHAT THE FOLLOW-UP IS GOING TO BE, BUT WE'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT BENCHMARKS NEED TO BE ESTABLISHED IT BECAUSE HOW ARE WE GOING TO KNOW THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS MAKING ANY DIFFERENCE IF WE, IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME, UH, DATA, YOU KNOW, BENCHMARK FROM WHICH WE'RE STARTING.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING THAT IN THE PLANS, IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE PEOPLE SAYING? WELL, SOMEONE ACTUALLY SAID, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND GOING FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO MONITOR AND EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE SEEING CHANGES TOWARDS HAVING A MORE DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST ONE THING.

UH, BUT DEFINITELY THEY'LL HAVE TO BE SOME ONGOING, UH, MONITORING AND SUPPORT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE IN GENERAL ARE NOT USED TO WORK IN, UH, IN WAYS THAT HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT DEEP ROOTED ISSUES OF SYSTEMIC RACISM.

RIGHT? AND SO WE HAVE TO UNLEARN A LOT OF THINGS TO EVEN GET MOVING ON THE JOURNEY TOWARDS DOING THAT BECAUSE WE'VE OPERATED OUT OF OLD THINKING AND OLD ASSUMPTIONS AND OLD ATTITUDES FOR SO LONG THAT IF SOMETHING DOESN'T HAPPEN TO KEEP TRIGGERING THAT NEW THINKING, THEN PEOPLE JUST GO BACK TO THE OLD.

AND SO THERE HAS TO BE A LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, THAT IS BEING MONITORED AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND, UH, ALONG THE WAY SO THAT THEY KEEP MOVING, UH, ALONG THAT JOURNEY TOWARDS CREATING WHAT WE CALL AN ANTI-RACIST MUSIC CULTURE.

JUST ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION IS THERE, UM, UH, THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT CAN BE SOLVED OVERNIGHT.

UH, AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IT, IT'S LITERALLY SOMETHING THAT'S GOT TO BE CULTIVATED AND SOLD OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, PERHAPS OVER YEARS.

UM, AGAIN, ARE THERE SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO TACKLE AND WITHIN, WITHIN SAY THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR ONE YEAR IN TERMS OF PUMP REDUCTIONS? I THINK THE FOLLOW-UP, UM,

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AND SO THAT IN ITSELF WILL HELP TO FUEL AND MOVE PEOPLE FORWARD.

AND SO WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR THAT, UH, IN THE PLANS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S NOT THERE, THEN WE'LL BE HAVING A CONSULTATION, UH, WITH THOSE, UH, INDIVIDUAL, UH, OWNERS, UH, TO TRY TO SPARK SOME ADDITIONAL NEW THINKING TO REALLY GET IT GROUNDED, UH, IN A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT CAN BEGIN TO, UH, TO LIVE AND BREATHE BECAUSE IT JUST BEING ON A PIECE OF PAPER, RIGHT.

IT HAS TO COME TO LIFE AND THEY HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT LIVE AND BREATHE AND MOVE.

UH, SO THAT CHANGE OCCURS, BUT YES, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SHOULD NOT SEE ANY CHANGE.

AND SO SOME OF THE SPECIFIC WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITHIN THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP IS AROUND VENUES AND HOW TO INCENTIVIZE, YOU KNOW, BEHAVIOR.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS READY FOR SEPTEMBER, UM, TIME IS MOVING FAST, BUT, UM, WE, UH, WE HOPE TO GET THE SPECIFICALLY VENUE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, UM, TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION IN SEPTEMBER.

UM, IF NOT SEPTEMBER, DEFINITELY OCTOBER, SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AND DISCUSS THOSE IDEAS.

SO, UM, NOT, WELL, YOU'RE DEFINITELY WELCOME TO JOIN US IN US.

ANY OF THOSE MINI SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP MEETINGS, UH, CHRIS HAS JOINED US AND A GUEST, SO THAT'S AS A SPACE FOR THAT CONVERSATION.

SO WE'RE DEFINITELY THINKING ABOUT THAT ON OUR END AS WELL, IN TERMS OF CONCRETE STUFF.

FOR SURE.

SO THIS IS INFORMATIVE.

THANKS.

Y'ALL FOR THE HARD WORK THAT SHE'D DONE KNOW, WELL, WE KNOW THAT MUSICIANS ARE OUT THERE, RIGHT? WE KNOW THEY'RE THERE, THERE ARE MUSICIANS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

AND SO, UH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE BEGAN TO CREATE SOME NEW THINKING AROUND THEN, HOW DO YOU FIND THEM? RIGHT.

AND, AND DON'T JUST ASSUME THAT MUSICIANS, THEY'RE NOT SHOWING UP, SO THEY MUST NOT BE INTERESTED.

NO.

HOW DO YOU FIND THEM AND HOW DO WE LOOK INWARD AND SAY, WHAT IS IT THAT'S KEEPING THEM AWAY, RIGHT.

I MEAN, THESE ARE THE CONVERSATIONS, I GUESS CORPORATE AMERICA HAD 20, 30 YEARS AGO.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO FIND THEM.

YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S LAZY, IT'S LAZINESS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, BEING PROACTIVE, BUT I'M GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE GETTING TO THE ACT ACTION.

AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE DIALOGUE HAPPENS.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE NOT THE VALLEYS COMMISSIONER, LIKE A VALLEY IS TALKING ABOUT, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE CONCRETE THINGS THAT YOU CAN, IT'S GREAT TO HAPPEN THIS, BUT SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME CONCRETE IDEAS.

UM, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS IS LIKE YOU SAID, NOT HAPPENING OVERNIGHT, BUT I, I AM THANKFUL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DID TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND BEGIN TO STYLE UP WITH THAT WAS SO, SO NEEDED.

TO B UM, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON DIRECTING COUNCIL TO ALLOCATE $10 MILLION TO AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDS TO MUSIC AS SPECIFIED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, FUENTES, RESOLUTION APPROVED ON MAY 20TH.

UM, ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, JOYCE, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO A,

[2B. Discussion and Possible Action on directing Council to allocate $10 million in American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) funds to music as specified by Council Member Fuentes resolution approved on May 20th.]

UH, I WILL JUMP IN ON THAT BEFORE I DO THAT.

I DID WANT TO JUST RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER JOINING US TONIGHT, UH, IS SCOTT STRICKLAND AND HE CAN'T, UM, HE'S STILL GOT SOME, UM, HE NEEDS TO BE, AND STILL, I THINK SO I CAN'T VOTE OR PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION, BUT, UH, SCOTT IS, UH, PAIGE ELLIS' APPOINTEE FROM DISTRICT EIGHT AND WE ARE SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU JOIN US, SCOTT, AND YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ON THE SET OF A MOVIE RIGHT NOW.

THE REST OF US JUST LIKE, LOOK LIKE WE'RE IN THERE, OUR LIVING ROOMS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE IN MISSION IMPOSSIBLE.

SO YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE VISUAL, UH, AESTHETIC AND WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATE IN THESE DISCUSSIONS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR ENERGY WITH THIS.

UM, OKAY.

SO MONEY.

SO Y'ALL WILL REMEMBER BACK IN, I BELIEVE APRIL OF THIS COMMISSION SEMI PASSED A BUDGET RECOMMENDATION FOR $20 MILLION WAS

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OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM MUSIC COMMISSION FOR THE BUDGET GOING FORWARD, UM, USING ARPA FUNDS, UM, AND ANY, AND ALL SOURCES.

SO THAT WAS 10 MILLION A YEAR FOR TWO YEARS.

IT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION.

UH, A RESOLUTION WAS PASSED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER OFFICE, UM, WITH HELP FROM MUSIC COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR 5 MILLION A YEAR.

SO 10, 10 MILLION, 5 MILLION A YEAR FOR TWO YEARS.

SO $10 MILLION.

SO, UM, THAT WAS HALF OF WHAT WE HAD RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDED.

THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM A COMMUNITY GROUP THAT WAS ALSO FOR 20 MILLION.

SO A NUMBER OF THERE'S THE CITY DOES HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS, BUT NOW THAT NUMBER HAS SHRUNK EVEN MORE ON THE CITY'S RECOMMENDING 4 MILLION.

UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T REALLY REVISIT BUDGET AFTER COUNCIL NUMBER FOUR AND STATUS RESOLUTION PASSED.

UM, AND SO COUNCIL DID SUPPORT THAT $10 MILLION AT ONE POINT.

NOW THE NUMBERS CHANGED AND I WOULD JUST, UM, SUGGEST THAT WE AS A GROUP REITERATE, UM, OUR SUPPORT FOR THE $10 MILLION, THE 5 MILLION A YEAR IN THE ARPA FUNDS OR ANY, ANY OTHER SOURCES, UM, THAT THE CITY CAN USE, UH, TO FULFILL THAT GAP.

SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? YEAH.

DO YOU KNOW WHY THAT NUMBER CHANGED? UH, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF NEED.

THERE'S A, THE BIG FOCUS ON HOMELESSNESS, OBVIOUSLY PANDEMIC RELIEF IN OTHER AREAS.

UM, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY TO, TO THAT END, THAT IN OUR MUSICIAN POPULATION IS ALSO A STRUGGLING POPULATION, UM, IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW.

UM, I MEAN, I HATE THAT WE'RE KIND OF IN THIS SITUATION WHERE WE'RE SAYING LIKE WE'RE TURNING, IT MAKES US LOOK LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE MONEY FROM ANOTHER POPULATION TO GIVE TO, TO THE POPULATION THAT WE SERVE.

BUT I SAY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE IN PROTECTING PEOPLE FROM FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS.

UH, WE'VE HAD MANY MUSICIANS STATE THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE DIRE AND WITH THE DELTA VARIANT SITUATION IS DIRE AGAIN.

SO THAT'S WHY I DID WANT TO BRING THAT UP TO THE GROUP.

AND YOU HAD GRAHAM, YOU HAD A COMMENT, WELL AT THE SAME QUESTION, BUT ALSO DO WE KNOW WHETHER THIS CAME FROM THE COUNCIL SIDE OR FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S SIDE WHERE, WHO EXACTLY IS REDUCING THE NUMBER? SO WE KNOW BEYOND OUR, UH, ENDORSEMENT OF THE 10 MILLION AS A COMMISSION WHO, WHO WE SHOULD BE COMMUNICATING WITH AND GETTING THAT MESSAGE TO THE, THAT 10 MILLION IS NEEDED.

SO I'M GONNA, SO OUR FRIENDS OVER AT MUSIC MAKES AUSTIN DID SEND A MEMO ON THIS.

SO I'M GOING TO READ A BIT FROM THAT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, GET A GROUND, OR I THINK THE SHUTS LIGHT.

UM, SO THIS WAS ON JUNE 10TH CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ARTIST SPENDING FRAMEWORK INCLUDE A 4 MILLION FOR MUSIC THAT INCLUDED 2.2 FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

SO AGAIN LIKE THAT SHOULD BE HOT FUNDS.

THE COUNCIL'S STRONG DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER AND STEP IS TO IDENTIFY OTHER POSSIBLE FUNDING SOURCES TO GET THE TOTAL MUSIC BACK UP TO 10 MILLION IN THE CITY BUDGET.

UH, THE CITY, THE RECENTLY RELEASED CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED BUDGET IDENTIFIES 4.8 AND DOES ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE CULTURAL ARTS FROM THE CITY'S BUDGET STABILIZATION RESERVE FUND, BUT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY SIMILAR FUNDING FOR MUSIC.

SO I THINK THEY'RE POINTING OUT THAT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER BUCKETS OUT THERE.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT DIRECTLY ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, GRAHAM.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE HORSE TRADING HAPPENS AT THE CITY LEVEL.

I GUESS IT WAS MY SHORT ANSWER TO THAT, BUT, UM, YEAH, WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S FROM THE CITY MAN AND HER SIDE.

AND SO, YEAH, I'M CURIOUS WHAT THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE, WHETHER THAT'S IT, WHETHER IT'S COMMUNICATING MORE WITH STAFF OR BECAUSE THAT NUMBER WAS CHANGED ON THE STAFF SIDE OR WHETHER IT'S COMMUNICATING MORE WITH THE COUNCIL OR BOTH.

UH, I'D PROBABLY BOTH AT MY RECOMMENDATION, UM, WOULD BE THAT AS A BODY THIS EVENING, IF WE'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT, THAT THE, THE FULL $10 MILLION SHOULD BE FUNDED, THAT WE, WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AS A GROUP.

AND THEN WE FOLLOW UP INDIVIDUALLY WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO EACH ONE OF US, YOU KNOW, DOES HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM,

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BUT SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN DOING THIS A LOT LONGER THAN I HAVE SPECIFICALLY YOU GRAHAM.

SO YOU MEAN UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS A LITTLE BETTER AND GAVIN, UM, ALSO, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY BAD AT THIS PART OF THE PROCESS.

AND I MEAN, IT'S ALSO, UH, EVERYONE IN EVERY, ON EVERY COMMISSION IN EVERY SECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR THEIR CHAIR OF THOSE FUNDS.

SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY COMPETING WITH EVERYONE AT THIS, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS STRONG DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER, WHICH IS NOT REQUIRING THE CITY MANAGER.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO SAY 10 MILLION MONTH, NOT LIKE WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT 10 MILLION VNR, BUT SAY IT'S LIKE AT LEAST 10 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

JUST MORE CLEAR, CONCLUSIVE, SPECIFIC CONCRETE LANGUAGE THAT IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, WE REALLY HOPE IT CAN BE THAT MUCH, BUT PUT IN WHATEVER YOU FEEL LIKE.

I THINK BRINGING PROCESSES TO US AND, AND BE AN ONGOING DIALOGUE.

I MEAN, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING, CAUSE LIKE THERE WAS A SPECIFIC RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL PASSED, UH, IN MAY.

AND SO WE WOULD JUST REITERATE, BUT THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL HAS EXPRESSED WHAT THEY HAD EXPRESSED BEFORE THAT THEY WANTED TO DO THAT.

WE SUPPORT THAT.

I AGREE.

I THINK WE SHOULD JUST REITERATE THAT SAID LIKE, THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO AND, YOU KNOW, UNLESS YOU CAN REALLY COME UP WITH SOME REASONS THAT IT'S BEEN REDUCED, WHICH I, AS ANYONE, DOES ANYONE HAVE ONE? UM, IF NOT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD SAY LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT YOU, YOU ALL SAID YOU WERE GOING TO COME TO THE TABLE WITH, AND THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT.

YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK ABOUT THIS FROM A POSITION OF POWER AND THAT IF THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR KNEW THAT AUSTIN VOTERS WILL VOTE FOR MUSIC AND PUNISH POLITICIANS, THAT STARVED MUSIC, THEN WE WOULD HAVE MUCH MORE POWER.

WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE MEANTIME IS PERHAPS MENTIONED THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF MUSIC TO AUSTIN IN THIS AT THE SAME TIME THAT, UH, MUSICIANS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE, UM, WHO DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ASSETS ARE STRUGGLING.

PROPERTY VALUES IN AUSTIN HAVE BEEN SKYROCKETING SKYROCKETING.

WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME TO AUSTIN FOR MUSIC.

AND HOW CAN WE POLITELY SAY THAT? MY WORRY IS THAT IT WAS POLITELY SAID ALREADY, WELL, WE'RE ALL QUITE GOOD AT BEING IMPOLITE.

WELL, SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, I CAN, I CAN DO THAT QUITE WELL.

UH, BUT SHOULD WE PERHAPS MENTION, UM, AND THIS, THIS IS A NUMBER THAT CAME UP IN THE MEETING OF THE FINANCE WORKING GROUP, UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

GAVIN YOU'VE SAID THAT, UM, THAT MUSIC ADDS $2 BILLION TO THE AUSTIN ECONOMY EACH, EACH YEAR.

IS THAT RIGHT? IT WAS APPROACHING THAT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

CORRECT.

RIGHT.

AND IF WE VIEW THIS AS A, UH, IF WE, IF WE USE TERMS LIKE, UH, THIS RECOVERY FUNDING IS BEING INVESTED IN MUSIC AND WILL, AND WILL BRING ABOUT ECONOMIC IMPACT ECONOMIC HARM, UH, NOT JUST TO MUSICIANS, BUT TO ALL OF AUSTIN, UH, THAT'S A LITTLE MORE FORCEFUL, NOT AS, NOT AS POLITE.

UH, CAN I ALSO BRING UP THAT? UH, I THINK WHEN IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WE'VE SEEN AN UPSWING AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE FELT LIKE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND MAYBE IT HASN'T SEEMED AS URGENT, UM, THE NEED, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, IN THE LAST WEEK REALLY, UH, THE, THE, THE NEED HAS BECOME URGENT AGAIN, AS WE'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF TIMES TONIGHT AND I CAN ATTEST TO, UM, THAT, UH, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE, THE SAME THING THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH ONLY NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY UNEMPLOYMENT ASSISTANCE TO FALL BACK ON.

SO, UH, THE EMERGENCY, UH, THE URGENCY OF IT RIGHT NOW, I FEEL LIKE WE COULD UNDERSCORE THAT.

UM, AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT HOW, UM, ARE THOSE FUNDS GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED LIKE THROUGH GRANTS? UH, YOU KNOW, I, I, IS THERE A PLAN FOR HOW THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED OR TO WHOM? UH, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S BEEN HERE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S THE DETAILS OF HOW IT'S GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED NOW.

AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THAT TONIGHT.

THAT WILL BE STAFF,

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SO I WOULD SUGGEST BECAUSE WE HAVE A MILLION OTHER THINGS ON THE AGENDA, A CLEAR, BUT STRONGLY WORDED STATEMENT OF SUPPORT OF 20 DAYS, UH, RESOLUTION WITH, UH, AN REITERATION OF THE URGENCY AND IMPORTANCE OF IT RETAINING ITS FULL VALUE.

IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO DRAFT SOMETHING UP AND THEN SEND IT TO US? AND WE CAN KIND OF LIKE CHIP IN AND CHIME IN? I THINK, LET ME, SO WHAT WE CAN DO, I THINK THIS IS WHEN WE HAVE TO LEAN ON KIM, BECAUSE I ALWAYS FORGET HOW THESE THINGS WORK, BUT I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION HERE AND THEN WE CAN DRAFT THE LANGUAGE OR LIKE TIDY IT UP A LITTLE BIT.

AND THEN, UM, THAT WILL GO OUT TO EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, IS LIKE, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT WE DID, BUT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION AND SECOND VOTE ON IT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMEND SUPPORT OF COUNCIL MEMBER QUINTUS, UM, MAY RESOLUTION, UM, PROVIDING $5 MILLION A YEAR FOR TWO YEARS AND ARPA FUNDING FOR LIVE MUSIC OR FOR THE MUSIC ECONOMY BASED ON THE NECESSITY FOR INVESTMENT AND OUR MUSIC ECONOMY, UH, THE ECONOMIC URGENCY CREATED BY THE PANDEMIC AND, UH, INCREASING AND AFFORDABILITY IN AUSTIN.

DOES ANYBODY SECOND? OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR.

SHOCKING.

YOU HAVE TO CALL WHO SECONDED A GRAM.

DID I DID TWO AT THE SAME TIME GRAHAM AND LAWRENCE.

AND THEN, YEAH.

SO THEN WE'LL WE CAN VOTE ALL IN FAVOR.

TO THREE, A M DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION AFTER STAFF UPDATE ON FEEDBACK ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM.

WANT IN FAVOR? YUP.

YOU WANT TO POSE RIGHT? SWEET.

[3A. Discussion and Possible Action after staff update on feedback on the Live Music Fund Event Program.]

THIS ONE IS, UH, ME AND CHRISTOPHER.

WE SENT YOU EARLIER TODAY.

I KNOW IT WAS COMING IN LATE, UH, UH, UH, WORKING LETTER WITH THREE REQUESTS.

UM, AND WE HAD ALL SORTS OF LANGUAGE THAT WE WERE DEVELOPING AND THEN BOIL DOWN TO THE WE'VE THOUGHT THE SIMPLEST WAY AND TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND MAKE IS INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPING LAND USE CODE WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HOLDING PLACES FOR MUSIC WITH SOME CLEAR DIRECTION TO THEM.

THE VERY SIMPLE LANGUAGE.

SO IN THIS LETTER ARE THREE REQUESTS REQUESTS.

ONE INCLUDE DEFINITIONS OF LIVE MUSIC, VENUE AND PERFORMANCE VENUE INSIDE THE FUTURE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DRAFTS, THAT'S ALL REQUESTS ONE.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS IN COORDINATION WITH THE ARTS COMMISSION AS WELL.

REQUEST TWO IS TO MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE A RIVER RESERVE SECTION IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, TITLE, ARTICLE 10, DIVERSIFY SUSTAIN AND CULTIVATE ART MUSIC AND CULTURE.

THE THIRD REQUEST IS JUST FOR US TO SEND THIS LETTER TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL EXPLAINING THE THINKING BEHIND THESE PLACEHOLDERS, THAT THE LANGUAGE ITSELF, EVEN THOUGH THERE'VE BEEN DRAFTS OF THESE DEFINITIONS AND DRAFTS OF THE RIVER, UH, RESERVED SECTION TO ULTIMATELY STAFF COM UH, DEVELOP DEVELOPED, AS I UNDERSTAND IT DEVELOPS THE LANGUAGE.

AND, BUT THAT WILL BE IN DIALOGUE WITH US, BUT THIS IS TO MAKE SURE AS LAND FELMAN CODE EVOLVES THAT UNLIKE PASPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, IT'S SEPARATES MUSIC VENUES FROM, UH, NIGHTCLUBS AND BARS AND HAS THE DIVERSE DEVICE SUSTAINMENT CULTIVATE LANGUAGE IN THERE.

UH, AND SO WE TRY TO MAKE IT SIMPLE.

SO IT WAS EASIER TO MOVE QUICKLY BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS DRAFT BY THE FALL OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, EVEN THOUGH WE'LL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE TO GET MUSIC'S FOOT IN THE DOOR AND ARTS FOOT IN THE DOOR EARLY TO BE PART OF THIS.

ANYWAY, ANY QUESTIONS OR CHRIS? CHRISTOPHER, YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS, STEPHANIE, SORRY.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ITEM THREE D YEAH, I WAS OH, I'M SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

CAN WE GO AHEAD AND YEAH,

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I DID.

CAN I MOTION TO MOVE UP 3D? YEP.

I WAS LIKE, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, GOOD LUCK.

I WAS LIKE, HEY, WE'RE MOVING.

UH, SURE.

YEAH, WE WERE THERE ALREADY.

SO LET'S JUST, YEAH.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT, UH, THOSE THREE REQUESTS? THEY'RE THEY'RE DESIGNED TO BE SIMPLE, BUT NONETHELESS, ANY THOUGHTS? QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

I MEAN, THIS SOUNDS GREAT.

THIS IS GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU GUYS.

WE'RE WORKING ON THIS.

UM, SO SEPARATING OUT THE MUSIC VENUES FROM THE BAR NIGHT CLUB THAT THAT'S THE HELP IN, IS THAT TO HELP IN LIKE EASE OF PERMITTING OR YEAH.

IT'S FOR, FOR TIM TO MAKE IT MORE EASIER IN THEORY, TO HAVE A LIVE MUSIC VENUE SO THAT, UH, DISTRICTS, UH, THAT MAY MAKE IT NOT OKAY TO HAVE BARS, THAT YOU CAN BE MORE PLACES TO MAKE IT A LOWER COST, TO HAVE A VENUE DESIGNED A DIVERSIFIED AND OWNERSHIP AND TO SPREAD IT AROUND THE CITY BECAUSE MORE, MORE BARS ARE CONCENTRATED DOWNTOWN IN VERY SPECIFIC PLACES.

AND WHAT W WITHOUT IMPOSING ON THE PEACE AND QUIET OF NEIGHBORHOODS WITH MAKING SURE THAT VENUES ARE, UH, MORE ACCESSIBLE TO A WIDER, UH, GEOGRAPHICALLY WIDER SEGMENT OF THE CITY.

THEN YOU OWNERSHIP, IF WE INCENTIVIZE SUPPORTING LIVE MUSIC AND DIVERSE LIVE MUSIC, THAT WE DON'T HAVE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE INCENTIVES AND THOSE BENEFITS BY THROWING A MUSICIAN IN THE CORNER, NOT REALLY LIKE TREAT, NOT TREATING THEM WELL, NOT PAYING THEM WELL, NOT TAKING CARE OF THEM AND SAYING, OH, WE'RE A MUSIC VENUE.

AND ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD, I KNOW YOU GUYS MENTIONED IN HERE, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOUSING SPECIFICALLY FOR, UM, ARTISTS, MUSICIANS, WHICH IS GREAT.

I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT CALLED OUT SPECIFICALLY.

UM, I I'M WONDERING, I MEAN, THIS MAY BE TOO BROAD OF A QUESTION FOR THE LAND FOR, FOR THOSE PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY IN THIS LETTER TO, TO ALSO TALK ABOUT DISPLACEMENT AND HOW THE CITY COULD, YOU KNOW, NEEDS NEEDS TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BECAUSE SO MANY MUSICIANS ARE BEING DISPLACED OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN.

SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO WORK THAT IN, BUT I, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION IF POINT.

SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO MAKE THAT AN ONGOING PART OF THE CONVERSATION RATHER THAN TRYING TO PUT IT IN NOW, BECAUSE NOW THAT BEING SAID, IF PEOPLE FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE SHOULD INCLUDE IT IN THIS VERSION, THAT'S FINE.

IT'S REQUEST THREE.

WAS IT THE LETTER TO COMMISSION AND COUNCIL IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF THINGS THAT COULD BE IN THE LANGUAGE AND THE DIVERSIFIED SUSTAIN AND CULTIVATE.

AND SO THAT KIND OF THING CAN BE ADDED.

BUT THE, UM, IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE DON'T ENDORSE THIS AS IT IS, THERE'S A DOMINO EFFECT OF, THEN WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT TO THE ARTS COMMISSION AND THEN, THEN THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

AND THEN IT COMES BACK TO US AS OPPOSED TO THIS BEING THE STARTUP COMPENSATION OF WHAT THAT, WHICH WOULD BE, AND MAKING SURE THAT STAFF UNDERSTANDS BECAUSE ERICA AND THE WHOLE STAFF HAVE BEEN SO RESPONSIVE TO THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN SUGGESTING AND THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO US.

UM, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION FOR THE SAKE OF TIME AND MAKING SURE THAT REQUESTS AND TO GET IN THERE AND THEN BEING ENGAGED ON PART OF THE LANGUAGE LOOKS LIKE IN THE LONG RUN.

WOULD I BE CORRECT IF I WERE TO INTERPRET THIS A, I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NICE TO SEE THIS DEFINITION, SNAKE ITS WAY THROUGH A COUPLE OF YEARS AND CONTINUE TO RESURFACE AND SOMETHING.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE ON ONE SIDE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS MAKING IT EASIER FOR VENUES.

THAT WAS THE ONE SIDE AND THE OTHER SIDE, I ALMOST SEE IT AS YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AT CODAFIDE IN CITY, YOU KNOW, IN THE CITY OF INSTITUTION AS LIKE, LIKE CLEAN WATER IS A RIGHT, THIS IS ALMOST A CULTURAL, RIGHT.

AND BY GETTING IT, CODAFIDE ESSENTIALLY IN THERE WITH THESE OTHER THINGS, AS YOU SAY, IT TAKES IT OUT OF MAYBE BYPASSES ANOTHER, UH, OR AVOIDS MAKES IT MORE DIRECT LOOP TO THIS AS A, AS A RIGHT, AS OPPOSED TO THIS AS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO A CULTURAL COMMISSION TO GET TO.

SO I HAVE TO SEPARATE IT FROM PRIVILEGE.

AND, UH, I, UH, FOR SURE IT'S ALSO, UH, THAT, UH, WE TO, TO QUANTIFY IT SO THAT IF WE MAKE, IF WE INCENTIVIZE,

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NOW, NOW HERE, WE'VE GOT A MUSIC VENUE DEFINITION, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SET THE BAR A LITTLE HIGHER.

SO YOU MAKE SURE THAT YOU, THAT YOU ACTUALLY ARE A MUSIC AND YOU'RE NOT JUST PRETENDING SO YOU CAN GET THESE BENEFITS, HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

HELLO COMMISSIONERS AGAIN, ERICA SHANLEY.

ANYWAY, I DEFINITELY SEE THE VALUE IN, YOU KNOW, HAVING A CODIFIED BECAUSE IT KIND OF RISES TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL AND THAT'S, THAT'S AWESOME.

GET THERE.

IT'S TRUE.

THESE KINDS OF DEFINITIONS ARE CHALLENGING.

AND WE COULD ARGUE ABOUT WHAT A MUSIC VENUE IS FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES, BUT HAVING IT CAUGHT UPON, I THINK AT LEAST HELPS MOVE IT FORWARD.

YOU CAN ALWAYS, UH, ONCE IT'S IN THERE AND IT'S PAR AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S PART OF LAND CODE, THESE THINGS CAN ALWAYS EVOLVE AS OUR THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT, UH, WHAT IT MEANS TO DIVERSIFY AUSTIN OR WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A MUSIC VENUE.

UM, DOESN'T MEAN THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER, BUT IT GETS IT IN THERE ANYWAY.

UH, IF I WOULD LOVE TO, I KNOW WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS, SO I'D LOVE TO EMOTION THAT WE SUPPORT THIS LETTER.

AND THEN WE KEEP CONTINUING TO ENGAGE IN THIS CONVERSATION AS THE LANGUAGE, ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSE.

I BUMPED IT UP IN THE AGENDA.

I MEAN, I'M GLAD.

CAUSE I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE.

I HATE, I HATE WASTING TIME.

YEAH, NO, I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT YOU JUMPED IN THIS SO QUICK.

I WAS LIKE, MAYBE I'M WRONG.

MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG AGENDA.

LAND DEVELOPMENT TEAM WAS JUST PUMPED UP.

UH, SO WE'RE BACK TO THREE A, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM.

I AM THE DIVISION MANAGER FOR MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT.

AND SO, UM, I'LL PROBABLY TAG TEAM WITH KIM HERE AND, UH, PERHAPS WITH EXECUTIVE LEAD TEAM AS WELL AS WE GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES.

UM, BUT BASICALLY WE GOT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

WE HAD 43 COMMENTS COME BACK IN THE COMMENT BOX.

I SENT YOU THE RECENT, YOU GUYS, THE LIST DOWNLOADED A SPREADSHEET THAT LISTED ALL THE COMMENTS SO THAT YOU CAN REFER BACK TO THAT.

BUT WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO WAS PULL THEMES OUT OF THAT, THAT WE CAN GO OVER AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND, AND OUR IDEAS FOR ENHANCING BRAD, UH, TO SEE WHAT YOU THINK.

SO, UH, NEXT SLIDE OKAY.

AGAIN, AS A REMINDER OF HOW THE LIVE MUSIC FUND WAS ESTABLISHED AND WHAT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM IS.

I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE A MILLION TIMES, SO WE'LL JUST GO QUICKLY THROUGH THIS AND IF WE COULD JUST GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE WANTED TO GO OVER THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.

WE'VE DONE SO FAR WITH THE ACTUAL PROPOSED GUIDELINES.

UM, SO THE, WE PRESENTED TO YOU GUYS ON JULY 12TH, UH, WITH THE PRESENTATION OF OUR PROPOSED, UM, GUIDE AT PRESENTATION, AS WELL AS LINKS TO THE COMMENT BOX, AS WELL AS LINKS TO THE VIDEO OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING ON TWO WEBPAGES, BOTH THE CULTURAL FUNDING REVIEW PAGE, AS WELL AS THE LIVE MUSIC FUND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SPEAK UP PAGE.

SO IF YOU'RE GOOGLING IT, YOU HAVE TWO WAYS TO HIT THE SAME INFORMATION SO THAT PEOPLE CAN FIND THEIR WAY TO THE ONLINE COMMENT BOX.

SO WE RECEIVED 43 COMMENTS IN THAT BOX AND, UM, THEY'RE ABLE TO GIVE A RATING, UM, AS WELL AS PROVIDE A COMMENT.

SO OVERALL IT WAS A FOUR OUT OF FIVE, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY GREAT.

THE COMMENTS MOSTLY WERE VERY POSITIVE OF G GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR MUSIC AND AUSTIN.

AND SO, UM, AND SO WE'LL GO A LITTLE BIT INTO WHAT WE HEARD AND THOSE THEMES HERE IN THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDES, BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE S AGAIN, SPEAKING WITH YOU TONIGHT AND WE'LL SPEAK WITH YOU AGAIN, SEPTEMBER 13TH.

UM, IT'S UH, WE EXPECT TO COME BACK TO YOU SEPTEMBER 13TH WITH THE FINAL GUIDELINES.

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SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

UM, YOU'RE GETTING A COUPLE OF DELAYS IN YOUR SPEAKING.

WOULD YOU MIND TURNING YOUR VIDEO ONTO ME SUGGESTING YOU TURN YOUR VIDEO OFF? OKAY.

SO WE'LL COME BACK TO TURN YOUR VIDEO OFF.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

THE RAIN.

SO THERE'S LOTS OF RAIN.

UM, SO SEPTEMBER 13TH IS WHEN WE EXPECT TO COME BACK TO YOU GUYS WITH, UM, FINAL GUIDELINES.

SO WE ARE PRESENTING TO THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN RESOURCE ADVISORY COMMISSION TOMORROW, TOMORROW, UM, TO THE ARTS COMMISSION ON AUGUST 16TH AND RECORDING NOW WITH, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE COMMISSIONS, LIKE THE, UH, ASIAN-AMERICAN QUALITY OF LIFE COMMISSION.

AND ONE OTHER THAT KIM CAN SPEAK UP.

UH, WE'VE JUST BEEN TRYING TO GET ON SCHEDULES AND COORDINATE THAT SO THAT WE CAN REACH AS MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS POSSIBLE WITH THESE POTENTIAL, WITH THESE PROPOSED GUIDELINES.

THAT'S THE NEXT SLIDE COMMISSION.

MAKING THE DECISIONS, WE WANTED TO PRIORITIZE THAT, UH, AS A SCORING CRITERIA.

SO THERE WERE SEVEN PRIMARY THEMES FOR ENHANCEMENTS, AND I'M GOING TO ASK HIM AND STEPHANIE, JUST TO PIPE IN WHENEVER THEY FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE TO KIND OF GIVE, YOU KNOW, ANY INTERPRETATION OF WHAT WE'RE READING TO YOU HERE FROM THE SLIDES, BUT THIS, UH, PRIMARY THEMES WERE AROUND ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA.

ALLOWABLE USES OF FUNDS, THE FUNDING ALLOCATION SCHEDULE APPLICATION TEMPLATES FOR PRODUCTION AND BUDGET, AS WELL AS MARKETING PLANNING, CAREER BUILDING, TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND TRAINING AND ENHANCE COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR REACHING APPLICANTS FOR CITY OF AUSTIN SUPPORT.

SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, WHY ONLY MUSICIANS AND BANDS AND SMALL INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS HAVE THREE OR LESS STAFF.

AND THEY'RE REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE FIRST PHASE.

I MEAN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME LIFE MUSIC HAS EVER HAD A FUND DEDICATED FROM HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.

THIS IS OUR PILOT PROGRAM.

AND SO THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY.

AS WE KNOW, IT'S A $2.5 MILLION BUDGET FOR .

AND SO WE WANTED TO REALLY FOCUS WHERE WE THINK WE COULD GET THE MOST, UH, IMPACT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE PRESERVATION FUND IS ALSO STILL IN PROCESS.

ALL OF THOSE VENUES ARE GOING THROUGH THEIR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.

LIKE JOYCE JUST, UH, GAVE YOU AN OVERVIEW.

AND SO THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO FIND THOSE MUSICIANS BECAUSE, UM, WE WANTED TO PUT THAT MONEY IN THE HANDS OF MUSICIANS TO GO AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY CREATE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEMSELVES THAT THEY HADN'T HAD BEFORE.

SAME THING WITH SMALL INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS THAT ARE USUALLY JUST ONE PERSON, IF MAYBE TWO THAT ARE DOING, UM, UNIQUE SHOWS AT DIFFERENT VENUES ACROSS TOWN.

AND SO WE WANTED TO JUST TAKE THE LIMITED BUDGET THAT WE HAD RIGHT OFF INITIALLY AND FOCUS THAT THOSE TWO GROUPS SO THAT WE COULD JUST SEE HOW IT GOES MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK AND SUPPORTING OUR MUSICIANS AND WITH THE, UH, THE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES THAT WERE SUPPORTING YOUR PIE, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS PRESERVATION, INNOVATION AND ELEVATION.

UM, IT DOES PRIORITIZE ACTIVITIES THAT PROMOTE PEOPLE OF COLOR, UH, TRADITIONS OF COLOR, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN'S HISTORY.

AND SO IT'S A GREAT WAY TO PRIORITIZE MUSICIANS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PRIORITIZED IN THE PAST.

AND SO THAT, BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE WORKING WITH A MUSICIAN WITH VENUES.

AND SO THIS IS A GREAT COLLABORATION POINT BETWEEN THESE TWO CITY PROGRAMS TO CONNECT THESE MUSICIANS IN THE BAND, TOO, VENUES ACROSS TOWN, BECAUSE THE MONEY IS STILL THERE.

THERE'S STILL NEEDS TO BE A VENUE.

THERE'S A VENUE RENTAL.

AND SO THESE MUSICIANS CAN GO AND GET TO KNOW DIFFERENT TYPES OF VENUES TO SEE WHAT IS A GREAT VENUE FOR THEM TO SPEND THIS FUNDING AND HAVE THESE EVENTS.

AND AGAIN, CREATING COLLABORATION POINTS AND GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR BOTH THE VENUES AND FOR THE MUSIC.

SO WHY IS WOMEN IDENTIFYING A PRIORITY? WELL, THIS IS COMING DIRECTLY FROM YOU GUYS AT THE MUSIC COMMISSION OF US, NOT ONLY PRIORITIZING, UM, RACIAL EQUITY AND LEADING ALL THAT.

SO, UH, WHAT'S SPECIFIC TO OUR MUSIC INDUSTRY IS TO FOCUS ON WOMEN AND WOMEN IDENTIFYING COULD BE, YOU KNOW, CIS-GENDERED WOMEN, UH, TRANS WOMEN.

UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST WOMEN IDENTIFYING AS A PRIORITY BECAUSE AS WE KNOW IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY ISSUES, UH, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE GATEKEEPING, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WOMEN ARE A LOT OF PERFORMERS, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW,

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AND THEN WHY NOT INCLUDE MUSICIANS WHO DO NOT PERFORM FOR LIVE AUDIENCES? WELL, THESE ARE HOT FUNDS AND THE GOAL ARE ACTIVITIES THAT CAN BE PROMOTED TO TOURISTS OR TO CONVENTION DELEGATES.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LIVE EVENT IN ORDER TO DO THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO, UH, BAY, THE STATUTE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, UH, TO APPROPRIATELY SPEND.

AND SO REALLY NEEDS TO BE LIVE ACTIVITIES OR VIRTUAL, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN AUDIENCE THAT CAN, UM, SEE THESE IN REAL TIME AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AFTERWARD AS VIDEO.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU DID OR OTHER KINDS OF MUSICIANS THAT, UM, THAT THEY JUST WOULDN'T BE PRIORITIZED BECAUSE THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES CAN'T BE PROMOTED AND WATCHED WITH A LIVE AUDIENCE AND THEN WILEY FOR INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS.

AGAIN, WE WANTED TO PRIORITIZE FOLKS THAT HAVE LESS CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, FINALLY HAVE, UH, PUT THOSE DOLLARS WHERE, UM, THEY HAVE BEEN NEEDED FOR YEARS, YEARS, SO THAT DIFFERENT TYPES OF SHOWS CAN BE, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT TOGETHER THE MUSICIANS CAN BE PLAY PAID A GREAT STANDARD RATE OF PAY, AND THAT THESE, UH, PROMOTERS ARE GETTING TO KNOW DIFFERENT VENUES AROUND TOWN, OR MAYBE IT'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH, LOCATIONS THAT ARE UNUSUAL, THAT THEY'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO CREATE A SHOW FOR, LIKE, WHETHER IT'S A PARK OR A LIBRARY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, WE JUST REALLY WANTED TO PRIORITIZE THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN NOT NEGLECTED, BUT JUST REALLY THAT PRIORITY HASN'T BEEN PUT THERE AS FAR AS CITY DOLLARS AND AS AN INVESTMENT.

AND SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE FOCUSING ON THOSE AREAS.

UM, AND DO YOU JUST WANT TO, UH, ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO? OR WE CAN JUST ASK QUESTIONS THE END, LET'S JUST GET THROUGH THIS SLIDE DECK FOR THE SAKE OF TIME AND THEN WE'LL, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO NEXT SLIDE.

SO KIM, DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO EASILY TALK FROM CITY HALL TO GO OVER THE ALLOWABLE USES OF FUNDS? YEAH.

UM, SO, UH, THE SECOND THEME WAS ABOUT, UM, JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.

I HAVE HAVEN'T NOW.

SURE.

EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME.

YES, YES.

I'M MUTED.

IS THIS BETTER? OKAY.

SO THE SECOND THEME IS THE ALLOWABLE USES OF FUNDS.

UM, THE SUCCESSFUL APPLICANTS ARE AWARDED A CONTRACT FOR SERVICE, FOR ACTIVITIES THAT MUST ADHERE TO THE STATE OF TEXAS ALLOWABLE USES FOR HOT REVENUES, UM, NOT CONSIDERED GRANTS.

SO THIS THE STATUTE REALLY LAYS OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO ALLOWABLE ACTIVITIES LIVE AND VIRTUAL EVENTS BY LOCAL MUSICIANS, DISTRICT-BASED MUSICAL SPECIAL EVENTS AND PAID MARKETING PLANS TO PROMOTE PROPOSED ACTIVITIES AND AUSTIN AS A LIVE MUSIC EXPERIENCE AND TOURIST DESTINATION.

SO TO STAY WITH THE STATUTE, IN OTHER WORDS, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS AND TYPES OF EVENTS THAT WOULD, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO, AND GOING IN AND OUT FOR EVERYBODY THAT WOULD ALLOW HIM GOING IN AND OUT FOR EVERYBODY, OR IS THAT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY CAN HEAR HER.

I CAN HEAR HER.

I CAN HEAR, WE CAN HEAR IT.

I'M JUST GOING TO PROBABLY BE LAYING IT OVER TO STEPHANIE AND KIM MOST OF THE TIME.

A NIGHT OF SHOWS SETTLEMENT.

SO I'M BACK.

THIS IS KIM ALLOWABLE EXPENSES INCLUDE PERFORMANCE GUARANTEES, OFFICE VENUE, RENTAL AND INSURANCE, EMPLOYEE SALARIES, CONTRACTOR PAY MARKETING COLLATERAL AND ADVERTISING PLACEMENTS AND SUPPLIES.

NEXT SLIDE.

ERICA, DO YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE? YEAH, I MUST HAVE A, I HAVE A BAD CONNECTION.

AND SO I WILL POP IN WHERE APPROPRIATE.

CAN I APPRECIATE THAT? SURE.

TAKEOVER.

SO THE THIRD THEME THAT WE PULLED OUT OF THE COMMENT BOX IS THE FUNDING DISTRIBUTION SCHEDULE.

UM, SO THIS, THIS FUNDING DISTRIBUTION SCHEDULE OF THE CONTRACT PERIOD IS A ONE-YEAR PERIOD.

UH, GRANTS WOULD BE FIVE TO $10,000.

AND, UH, THIS, THE SCHEDULE WOULD BE OVER 12 MONTHS.

UM, UH, 50% COULD BE PAID UPON EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT.

AND THEN FOR AN EVENT, UH, THE AWARD, HE COULD DRAW DOWN MONTHLY FOR REMAINING ELIGIBLE REIMBURSABLE EXPENSES, INCLUDING

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SO WE KNOW THAT MUSICIANS WOULD LIKE TO BE PAID THE NIGHT OF THE SHOW.

SO WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS, UM, TYPICALLY WE HAVE A REIMBURSABLE WITH A RECEIPT, BUT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PAY WITH AN INVOICE ON THAT, UH, WHAT THAT EXPECTED AMOUNT IS FOR THE, THE MUSICIAN, UH, SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE CASH ON HAND.

AND THEN AT THE END 10% WOULD BE HELD UNTIL THE RECEIPT OF THE FINAL REPORT.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THE FOURTH THEME THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PULL OUT OF THE COMMENT BOX WAS THE FILLABLE FILLABLE APPLICATION TEMPLATES.

THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED, UM, A PRODUCTION SCHEDULE AND BUDGET TEMPLATE.

WHAT IF SOMEBODY HAS NEVER FILLED THIS OUT BEFORE, OR MAYBE THEY'VE NEVER DONE ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GUIDE THEM THAT THEY COULD HAND IN WITH THEIR APPLICATION MARKET MARKETING PLANNING TEMPLATE FOR NEW AUDIENCES AND A MARKETING PLANNING TEMPLATE FOR CULTURAL TOURISM.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THE FIFTH THEME THAT WE PULLED OUT WAS CAREER BUILDING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AND TRAINING, UM, AN APP WITH APPLICATION WEBINARS, UH, HOW TO DO AN APPLICATION MIGHT BE USEFUL COMMUNITY CHAMPION ASSISTANCE WITH CONTRACTED EVENT PRODUCTION.

UM, WE FOUND THAT THE COMMUNITY CHAMPIONS ARE REALLY GREAT AT REACHING AUDIENCES AND REACHING PEOPLE TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.

UH, THE SMALL BUSINESS DIVISION BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CLASSES AND COACHING, WHICH WE HAVE ALL YEAR ROUND, THE CULTURAL TOURISM, BEST PRACTICES TRAINING LEADING WITH EQUITY TRAININGS AND THE AUSTIN CENTER FOR EVENTS ASSISTANCE WITH SPECIAL EVENT, PERMITS ARE ALL SERVICES THAT WE CAN, UH, THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO HELP PEOPLE WITH THESE, THE APPLICATION AND DURING THE COURSE OF THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE SIXTH THEME, ENHANCED COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR REACHING FIRST TIME APPLICANTS FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN SUPPORT.

UH, SO I'VE MENTIONED THE COMMUNITY CHAMPION PARTNERSHIPS WHO ARE GREAT AT GETTING THE WORD OUT FOR US.

UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN EQUITY, OFFICE PARTNERSHIPS AND MARKETING AND OUTREACH ADVERTISING INVESTMENTS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, UH, RESPONSES TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

SO YOU GUYS WILL REMEMBER AT OUR LAST THAT YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS AND ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS WAS WHAT IF A MUSICIAN IS INVOLVED IN MULTIPLE BANDS? I WANT TO SAY THAT MIGHT'VE BEEN, UH, UH, GRANT'S QUESTION.

CAN THEY BE A PART OF MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS? SO WE THOUGHT THROUGH THAT AND WE THOUGHT THAT THEY COULD, UM, THAT WE CAN WORK THAT.

HOW DOES THE PROGRAM SUPPORT VENUE? YEAH.

BUT KEEP IN MIND SUPPORT VENUES.

AND I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ON THIS SLIDE WHEN YOU'RE DONE GOING THROUGH THE BULLETS, KIM.

SO GO ON.

UM, I CAN GIVE SOME MORE DETAILS OR IF YOU WANT, I CAN GIVE SOME MORE DETAILS IF YOU WANT, OR I GUESS YOU'LL, YOU'LL YOU'LL YOU CAN HOP IN HERE.

DOES THE SUPPORT LEAVE VENUES OFF THE HOOK FOR PAYING MUSICIANS? HOW WILL THE CITY ENSURE COLLABORATION BETWEEN AWARDEES VENUES AND OTHER MUSIC INDUSTRY PARTNERS TO FOSTER SUSTAINABLE CAREERS AND REASONING FOR CITY OF AUSTIN MUSICIAN STANDARD RATE OF PAY OF $150 AN HOUR PER MUSICIAN, UH, PER BAND.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR ME.

I APOLOGIZE, I'M THE BODY THERE WILL BE HERE.

SO JUST TO CONFIRM THE MUSICIAN INVOLVEMENT IN MULTIPLE BANDS, THAT MEANS THOUGH THAT WHOEVER IS HEADING THE APPLICATION, THE HEAD OF THE BAND OR THE SOLO WARRIOR, WHO ARE IN MULTIPLE BANDS THAT YOU LEAD, DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A QUARTET FOR THIS AND THEN SOMETHING ELSE FOR THIS, BUT YOU LEAD THOSE BANDS AND YOU HIRE MUSICIANS TO PLAY.

YOU CAN ONLY, BUT THE SUPPORTING MUSICIANS.

AND THIS HAPPENS A LOT, SAY FOR INSTANCE, IN JAZZ BANDS, LIKE JAZZ DRUMMERS, THAT WILL PLAY IN FIVE DIFFERENT BANDS.

WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO POLICE ERIC, YOU'RE GOING IN AND OUT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU DO AS A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN.

YOU'RE IN, SOMETIMES YOU'RE PITCHING FOR THE NIGHT BECAUSE SOMEONE GETS GOING IN AND OUT, UH, DARN IT.

THAT'S YOUR POINT? IT'S RIGHT.

WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT TO YOU, ANTHONY.

STEPHANIE AND KIM, IT'S ALL YOU.

WELL, I'LL GO BACK TO THE TOP BULLET.

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THIS IS KIM.

AND, UM, WE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MUSICIAN INVOLVEMENT IN MULTIPLE BANDS.

CAN THEY BE A PART OF MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS? AND WE DECIDED THAT YES, YOU MIGHT HAVE A DRUMMER WHO'S IN MULTIPLE BANDS AND YES, THEY CAN PARTICIPATE, BUT THE BAND LEADER WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS.

UM, HOW DOES THE PROGRAM SUPPORT VENUES? UH, WELL, THE VENUES ARE AWARE OF THE, UH, MOST OF THESE WILL TAKE PLACE.

MOST OF THESE EVENTS TAKE PLACE.

SO THE, THE VENUES HAVE, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN FROM THESE MUSICIANS, TAKING THE SHOWS THERE.

DOES THE SUPPORT LEAVE VENUES OFF THE HOOK FOR PAYING? NO.

UM, HOW WILL THE CITY ENSURE COLLABORATION BETWEEN AWARDEES, VENUES, OTHER MUSIC, INDUSTRY PARTNERS TO FOSTER SUSTAINABLE CAREERS, UM, THE AWARDEES AND VENUES AND OTHER MUSICIAN, UH, OTHER MUSIC INDUSTRY PARTNERS WILL BE, UM, ENCOURAGED TO COLLABORATE WITH THE, THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THAT WILL BE OFFERED.

UM, THE REASONING FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN MUSICIAN STANDARD OF RIGHT.

OF PAY.

THIS IS A ACTUALLY, I THINK I'LL REFER TO STEPHANIE ON THIS ONE AND HOW THAT CAME ABOUT.

HELLO? SURE.

SO THE, THE $150 PER MUSICIAN PER HOUR IS, UM, A NUMBER THAT'S DETERMINED THAT IF YOU PLAYED A CITY PLAY A CITY OF AUSTIN EVENT, IF YOU PLAY FOR 15 MINUTES, WE'RE GOING TO ROUND THAT UP TO AN HOUR.

SO WE FIGURED THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY, A STANDARD THAT'S.

THAT SHOULD BE THE STANDARD.

NOW, WHEN WE SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ALLOCATED WITHIN THE APPLICATION, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS A BAND LEADER WHO HAS FOUR MEMBERS, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE MONEY TO PAY EACH OF THE MUSICIANS $150 PER HOUR.

THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.

THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE GUIDELINES NOW, WHETHER OR NOT THAT HAPPENS, THERE'S NOT REALLY A WAY THAT WE CAN KIND OF DETERMINE THAT, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIED WITHIN YOUR IT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE SPECIFIED WITHIN THE APPLICATIONS THAT YOU HAVE, EVERY INTENTION OF MEETING OUR STANDARD RATE OF PAY, WHICH IS THE ONE 50 PER MUSICIAN PER HOUR.

AND AGAIN, IF YOU'RE PLAYING FOR 20, 30 MINUTES, WE'RE GOING TO ROUND THAT UP TO A ONE 50 PERFORMANCE FOR THE HOUR.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT SLIDE.

DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE WORTH 10 POINTS.

THIRD PARTY INVOLVEMENT.

THE FOLLOWING ELEMENTS ARE UNDER CONSIDERATION AS WE RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK IN THIS PROCESS, AND WE'RE DETERMINING A STAFF CAPACITY.

THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATION IS POSSIBLE WITH HOT FENCE, BUT COULD REQUIRE 10% OR MORE OF AVAILABLE TOTAL OF THE AVAILABLE TOTAL OF LIVE MUSIC EVENT, PROGRAM BUDGET.

SO THE FEE COULD BE 10% OR MORE THE STATE OF TEXAS REQUIREMENTS FOR HOT FUNDED CONTRACTS FOR SERVICES.

UM, AND THE THIRD PARTY COMMUNITY REVIEW PANELS IS A PART OF, UM, THE CONSIDERATION FOR WHETHER, UH, THERE'D BE A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTER WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD HAVE THE, THE REVIEW PANELS OR WHETHER THE SCORING WOULD BE A MORE AUTOMATED TYPE OF SCORING, UH, FOR THAT SETUP.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE, THE PROPOSED SCORING CRITERIA, UM, AND I THINK WE REVIEWED THIS, UH, APPLICANT REPRESENTATION OF COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

UM, SO THE APPLICANT BELONGS TO 51% OF, OF THE BAND AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTION COMPANY.

UM, AND, UM, WE'RE, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, DOES WE'RE SPECIFICALLY LOOKING AT, HAS THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED IN THE ARTS BLACK AFRICAN-AMERICAN, NATIVE AMERICAN, ASIAN, HISPANIC, LATINO, MIDDLE EASTERN AND PACIFIC ISLANDER? UH, WHAT'S DIFFERENT WITH THIS SLIDE IS THAT WE ARE GIVING YOU AS SCORING POINT EXAMPLES OR, OR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE THE SCORING POINTS FOR EACH CRITERIA PRESERVATION ACTIVITIES THAT ENRICH THE PAST OF UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES UP TO 15 POINTS, INNOVATION ACTIVITIES THAT ENVISIONED THE FUTURE OF UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES UP TO 15 POINTS, ELEVATION AND COLLABORATION ACTIVITIES, AND EMPOWER THE PRESENT OF UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES OR UP TO 20 POINTS, LGBTQ PLUS WOMAN IDENTIFYING AND DISABILITY COMMUNITIES.

THIS IS AGAIN, 51% OF MEMBERS OF THE BAND OR THE PROMOTION COMPANY UP TO 15 POINTS, COMPENSATION OF PERFORMERS BASED ON THE CITY OF AUSTIN STANDARD RATE OF PAY, THAT WOULD BE WORTH 10 POINTS.

MARKETING PLAN FOR AN AUDIENCE

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THE MARKETING PLAN FOR CULTURAL TOURISM, 10 POINTS, AND HAVING A PROJECT PLAN AND PROD AND PROPOSED BUDGET IS FIVE POINTS.

SO THE, UM, THE EQUITY THAT'S BEEN BUILT INTO THIS, UH, THIS, UH, UH, SCORING MECHANISM IS ABOUT 70, 70 POINTS NEXT, PLEASE DESIGN BY DESIGN.

YOU'D HAVE TO SCORE HIGHLY IN THE FIRST PORTION OF THE SCORING TO BE COMPETITIVE.

AND KIM AND I DID A NUMBER OF TESTS LAST WEEK, BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS BASED ON THE MATH HERE.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, AND I THINK WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

WE DID THIS SLIDE LAST TIME.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, OUR NEXT STEPS OF COURSE ARE THE SAME, UM, THAT WE, UH, ARE STILL COLLECTING THE FEEDBACK AND, UH, WE WILL COME BACK AGAIN ON SEPTEMBER 13 AND, UM, WE'LL BE PRODUCING DRAFT GUIDELINES.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE CONTACT ME KIMBERLY DOT MCCARSON AT AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV.

SO IT SOUNDS JUST CURIOUS, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT? LIKE, WOULD THAT VENUES WOULDN'T BE GETTING LIKE TRADITIONAL VENUES WOULDN'T BE GETTING MONEY.

SO WE'LL GO TO QUESTIONS AND I GUESS, ERICA, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP OR MENTION IS THAT YOU HAD JUST KIND OF DISQUALIFIED LIVE STREAMING FROM THIS PROCESS.

AND I WOULD JUST SPEAK UP ON BEHALF SAYING THAT A LARGE PORTION OF OUR MUSIC COMMUNITY MADE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THEIR MONEY THROUGH LIVE STREAMS. I CAN LIST OFF ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE RIGHT NOW OF, OF WELL-KNOWN MUSICIANS THAT MADE A LIVING OFF IT.

AND I, AND I KNOW PERSONALLY, I DID QUITE A FEW, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME PROMINENT BANDS.

AND I ALSO HAVE TALKED TO OVER THE LAST YEAR, AS I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UH, PROMOTERS PEOPLE ARE SEEING THAT LIVE STREAMING, EVEN WHEN IT GOES, EVEN WHEN THE PANDEMIC GOES AWAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIG, IT'S ANOTHER LEG OF THE TABLE OF INCOME FOR PEOPLE WITH MERCH AND TOURING, YOU KNOW, AND POTENTIAL MUSIC LICENSING, WHICH IS THE SHAKY LEG.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST SPEAK UP SAYING, I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE GOING TO PAY SIGNIFICANT PART.

ERICA LOOKED LIKE YOU WANT TO TALK, BUT YOU'RE MUTED.

BUT, UM, BUT, UH, VIRTUAL, UH, THAT THOSE WERE ALLOWED LIVE AND VIRTUAL EVENTS ARE ALLOWED LIKE LIVE EVENTS.

THEY JUST HAVE TO BE LIKE PERFORMED AND YOU EITHER HAVE AN ONLINE AUDIENCE, OR YOU HAVE A LIVE AUDIENCE, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE PANDEMIC, WE CAN'T DICTATE THAT IT HAS TO BE ALIVE AUDIENCE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SAYING THAT THAT IS ALLOWABLE.

AND IF WE HEAR DIFFERENTLY THAN WE WILL CERTAINLY LET COMMUNITY KNOW, BUT IT'S OUR INTENT TO ALLOW VIRTUAL AND LIVE STREAMED EVENTS.

GREAT.

I'M SORRY.

I EARLIER KIND, I THOUGHT INDICATED THAT IT WASN'T ALLOWED.

SO MY MISTAKE, THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION OR A COMMENT.

UM, SO WHEN YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE VENUE INVOLVEMENT, UM, AND THAT THAT'S WHERE THAT THE, THIS FUND WILL, UM, GIVE BACK TO THE VENUES AS WELL.

UM, THAT I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, A WORKADAY MUSICIAN, UM, THAT THE ONLY VENUES THAT I WOULD BE PAYING, UH, TO SET UP A PERFORMANCE WOULD BE LIKE NON TRADITIONAL, VERY SPECIAL FESTIVAL TYPE EVENTS, WHICH IS MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE GOING FOR HERE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE TYPE OF VENUES THAT LIKE REALLY NEED OUR SUPPORT THROUGH, THROUGH THIS TIME ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE TYPE OF VENUES THAT WE WOULD BE PAYING TO SET UP PRESIDENCIES OR PERFORMANCES OR ANYTHING THAT'S THAT REALLY EQUATES TO PAY TO PLAY AND IS NOT WHAT WE DO.

UM, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT THE TYPES OF VENUES THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, GET GETTING BACK FROM THIS PROGRAM ARE NOT NECESSARILY, UH, THE TYPES OF VENUES THAT ARE, ARE STRUGGLING.

UM, WAS THAT, WHY IS THAT? I JUST THINK BECAUSE, UH, I JUST DON'T PAY UP IN USE TO PLAY.

I MEAN, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S LIKE A PERSONAL THING.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WERE YOU SAYING? LIKE WE, AS MUSICIANS, LIKE, THAT SOUNDS VERY PERSONAL.

CAUSE I KNOW ME PERSONALLY DURING THE PANDEMIC, I USE SEVERAL VENUES, UM, INCLUDING EMPIRE, UM, FOR EVENTS THAT PAID A LOT OF MUSICIANS VERY WELL.

SO LIKE, I, I CAN'T SAY THAT FLUX MY EXPERIENCE.

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I MEAN OUR, SO YOU PAY EMPIRE TO PUT ON A SHOW OR TO USE THEIR VENUES TO HAVE TO HAVE A SOUND PERSON, TO HAVE LIGHTS TO YEAH.

TO TOSHA.

IT'S JUST DIFFERENT.

IT'S DIFFERENT FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND MY, LIKE THE COMMUNITY OF MUSICIANS THAT I WORK WITH, UM, THAT WE DON'T TRADITIONALLY PAY THE VENUES TO PUT ON SHOWS.

WE'RE GENERALLY JUST HIRED BY THE VENUES TO PLAY.

UM, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE.

SO, OH, I'M SORRY.

I'M SHAKA.

UM, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR ME, BUT THIS WOULD BE LIKE A VENUE RENTAL.

CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 365 DAYS OF THE YEAR.

AND SO WHEN YOU ARE THAT PAY TO PLAY IS WHEN YOU'RE NOT GETTING BACK THE TICKET SALES, IF YOU DO LIKE A RENTAL AND IT COULD BE THE HOUSE NET DEPENDS ON, YOU NEED THIS MANY SECURITY, THIS MINI BAR BAGS FOR US TO OPEN THE VENUE TO YOU AND THEN THE VENUE TAKES NOTHING ELSE.

BESIDES THAT RENTAL FEE, THEN YOU CAN HAVE ALL YOUR TICKETS SALES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A CANCELLATION.

IT KIND OF TAKES THE RISK FROM THE VENUE AWAY, UH, TO PUT THAT PRESSURE BACK ON MUSICIANS THAT, HEY, IF WE DON'T SELL X AMOUNT OF TICKETS TO PAY OUR EXPENSES, THEN I'M CANCELING.

NOW THAT'S PAID TO PLAY.

THIS IS THE POWER IS WITH THE MUSICIAN TO GO DO THAT FEE.

AND THEN THE VENUES HAS LOW.

IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THE RISKS THAT IT TYPICALLY WOULD.

THEY GET, THEY GET TO PAY THEIR STAFF NO MATTER WHAT THEY GET THEIR BAR SALES AND YOU GET TO SELL TICKETS.

AND SO YOU GET TO KEEP ALL OF THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT.

I THINK YOU ALL ARE TELLING YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

WELL, I MEAN JUST, YOU KNOW, PRE PANDEMIC, I WAS PLAYING, YOU KNOW, SIX TO SEVEN NIGHTS A WEEK AND MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND THE, MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT I WORK WITH, UM, OUR EXPERIENCES THAT WE'RE HIRED BY THE VENUE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IF I'VE EVER PUT ON A SHOW IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, SOMEPLACE THAT I DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR.

UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I COULD SEE HOW THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE GREAT FOR, FOR SPECIAL OCCASIONS.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S NOTED THAT, UH, THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO SUPPORT THE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM OF VENUES IN TERMS OF LIKE KICKING BACK FROM MUSICIANS HIRING.

OH, I AGREE.

MY, OUR HOPE IS, IS THAT WHAT THIS WILL DO IS, I MEAN, CAUSE VENUES, WE'LL STILL HAVE THOSE SHOWS WITH ARTISTS THAT THEY HIRE AND THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN IN-HOUSE PROMOTERS TO PUT TOGETHER A SHOW JUST LIKE YOU TYPICALLY WOULD RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT WHAT THIS WOULD IS JUST HAVE MORE DAYS THAT ARE LESS RISKY FOR VENUES SO THAT IT'S, EVERYONE'S MAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THERE'S LESS RISK BECAUSE THE CITY IS HELPING TO PAY FOR THESE EVENTS.

EITHER THE MONEY'S PASSING THROUGH THE MUSICIAN TO THE VENUE OR IT'S, YOU KNOW, OR THE VENUES GETTING A GRANT FROM A DIFFERENT PROGRAM OR SPOG OR WHATEVER IT IS.

IT'S JUST WAYS THAT WE CAN PAY THE EXPENSES THAT EXIST NO MATTER WHAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THESE FUNDS.

SO, SO THAT WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THE RISK AWAY AND EVERYONE MAKES MORE MONEY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THAT NOW TO YOUR POINT, LIKE IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR A VENUE, THEN THAT'S GREAT.

LIKE, BUT SOME, SOME PEOPLE WILL HAVE CERTAIN NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE WHERE IT'S GOING TO COST A LOT MORE TO BRING IN ALL THIS STUFF TO A NON-TRADITIONAL VENUE, AS OPPOSED TO A VENUE THAT ALREADY HAS EVERYTHING ELSE SET IN PLACE WHERE IT'S A LOT MORE AS A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING WITH THAT.

LIKE, IT'S GREAT.

IF YOU HAVE A VENUE, THAT'S JUST GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO USE THE VENUE AND YOU PAID THE MUSICIANS AND YOU GET MONEY FROM THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, THEN GREAT.

THAT'S AN EXPENSE OFF OF YOUR BUDGET THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.

UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT SAYING ONE THING OR THIS THING, IT'S JUST SAYING, OKAY, YOU WANT TO DO A LIVE EVENTS.

UM, YOU WANT TO HAVE A SERIES, YOU WANT HAVE A REV RESIDENCY, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MONEY TO DO THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD CHOOSE TO USE A VENUE OR YOU COULD NOT.

AND I CAN SAY, I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

I, I DO BOTH.

UM, BUT IT'S ALL DEPENDING ON MY NEEDS, LIKE I'M THROWING A FESTIVAL, IT'S A LOT EASIER.

LIKE I'VE DONE IT AT KENNY DURHAM'S AND DOING IT AT KENNY DERMS IS A DIFFERENT EXPENSE THAN IT IS DOING EMPIRE, YOU KNOW, OR MOHAWK OR WHEREVER.

UM, AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS AS A, AS A PRODUCER OF AN EVENT THAT I GOT TO THINK ABOUT IN A WAY, UM, SOMETIMES IT'S A LOT EASIER TO JUST GO, THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IT'S IN A BOX, THEY HANDLE EVERYTHING AND I'M HANDLING JUST THE PROMOTION AND THE TICKETING AND, AND TAKING CARE OF THE ARTISTS.

SO, UM, I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT AND NOT, NOT ONE WAY IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.

AND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE FACING.

THAT'S FOR SURE.

I AGREE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WHENEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HELPING VENUES THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THAT POINT THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS GOING TO TRICKLE INTO THE VENUES THAT NEED THAT ARE STRUGGLING THE MOST.

THAT'S ALL.

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IT'S CHUCK, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU WERE A PRODUCER OR PRESENTER.

AND IN MY MIND, PAY-TO-PLAY DOES NOT, IT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU PRESENTING, CAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PAYING YOUR ARTISTS.

IF YOU, AS THE PRODUCER, PRESENTER CHARGED OR ASKED TO PLAY IN YOUR FESTIVAL, AND THEN ONLY IF YOU MADE MONEY TO THEN GIVE THEM MONEY, UH, THAT IT WAS PLAYING GIGS IN NEW YORK.

WHEN I WAS YOUNG, WAS THAT WAS, THAT WAS WHERE I EXPERIENCED PAY TO PLAY.

AND IT WASN'T, IT WAS ABOUT THE BAR OR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE MUSICIANS BY YOU HAD TO PAY TO THE RIGHT TO BE ON THAT STAGE.

AND ONLY IF YOU BROUGHT AN X NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND THEY BOUGHT X NUMBER OF DRINKS, DID THE VENUE THEN PAY VERY DIFFERENT FROM YOU BEING AS AN ARTIST, SUPPORTING ARTISTS? I THINK CLEARLY A POSITIVE THING.

IF YOU'RE AN ARTIST IN THESE PAY TO PLAY THINGS IN LA, YOU USED TO HAVE TO BUY 30 OR 40 TICKETS AT $10 A TICKET, AND THEN THAT'S HOW YOU GOT ON THE BILL.

AND IF YOU DIDN'T SELL ALL THOSE TICKETS, THAT WAS YOUR COST TO GET IN, BUT YOU HAD TO SELL TICKETS IN ADVANCE JUST TO GET A SPOT THAT'S PRETTY HARSH ON MUSICIANS.

NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

AND THE ADDED PROTECTION ON THAT GOES WITH THE GUIDELINES, INCLUDING THAT ONE 50 PER MUSICIAN PER HOUR.

SO THERE'S A, IT'S A FAIL SAFE PIECE OF THAT.

THEY'RE LIKE, WE WE'LL NEED TO SEE IT IN A, IN A LIGHT ON A BUDGET THAT YOU INTEND TO PAY EVERYONE WHO YOU'RE BRINGING ONTO THIS PRODUCTION.

I FEEL LIKE I SHOULDN'T HAVE USED THE PHRASE PAY TO PLAY BECAUSE IT HAS SUCH, UH, IT'S SUCH A LOADED PHRASE BECAUSE I FELT LIKE I WAS KIND OF TALKING ABOUT SORT OF A DIFFERENT THING.

SO APOLOGIES.

WELL, PLEASE DON'T APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S, YOU'VE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT.

AND HONESTLY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY TOO, THAT THERE IS THAT CONCERN ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, THERE MAY NOT BE A SUSTAINABLE SITUATION WITH A MUSICIAN RUNNING A VENUE, SO I'M JUST GOING TO, I'M BRINGING THIS UP.

SO STAFF CAN ADDRESS IT, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, VENUES MAY TAKE THESE, THESE RENTAL FEES, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE, IF THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY, THEY DON'T FEEL THAT THEY HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME NECESSARILY TO, YOU KNOW, SEEK OUT, UM, MUSICIANS FROM MORE DIVERSE COMMUNITIES.

UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, UM, INCENTIVIZED TO COLLABORATE ON THE MARKETING AND HELP THEM SUCCEED.

AND SO THAT THESE MAY BE LIKE ONE OFF GIGS WHERE SOMEBODY WINDS UP PLAYING TO AN EMPTY ROOM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T REALLY GET THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEEDED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE.

WHEREAS THE VENUE DOES HAVE THAT EXPERTISE, BUT WASN'T REALLY MOTIVATED TO, TO BRING IT AND SUPPORT THOSE MUSICIANS BECAUSE THEY WERE LIKE, OKAY, IF WE GOT A 10, THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO, YOU'VE GOT TO PLAY MORE AND I'M SORRY, THERE'S NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE.

LIKE IF YOU HAVE A WELL-VERSED MEMBER OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION, DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE FRAMEWORK, WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AND HELPING TO EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS.

SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, RIGHT? EXACTLY.

BECAUSE THIS IS A, UH, CAREER DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY AS WELL, TO TRAIN MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS OF HOW TO WORK WITH VENUES IN A WAY SO THAT NO ONE'S BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.

AND THAT THERE ARE EXPECTATIONS AROUND MARKETING, BECAUSE IF THERE IS SAY A FEE FOR RENTAL, THAT INCLUDES A SERVICES ON BOTH ENDS, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING IN ORDER TO CHARGE YOU FOR THE, THAT NIGHT.

WHAT IT TAKES AWAY IS THAT THEY GET A CUT OF THE TICKET SALES.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL YOU, UH, THERE COULD BE SOME TICKETING FEES, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE JUST BUILT INTO THE TICKETING SYSTEM THAT GOES TO THE VENUE, BUT THAT SHOULD ALL BE IN THE CONTRACT, UH, THAT THE MUSICIAN IS WORKING OUT WITH THE VENUE BEFORE THEY AGREE TO PLAY.

AND THAT COULD INCLUDE MARKETING SUPPORT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE MORE POWER AS A MUSICIAN TO SAY, HEY, I PAID YOU THIS FEE FOR THIS DATE AND YOU HAVE NOT PROMOTED IT.

AND THAT'S POWER THAT THE MUSICIAN HAS IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE, BECAUSE YOU'RE KIND OF LIKE AT THE MERCY OF OTHER ACTORS, THIS PUTS, AGAIN, THE GRANT, THE MA OR THE CONTRACT IS WITH THE MUSICIAN WHO HAS THE BARGAINING POWER TO GO WORK WITH MUSICIANS.

AND THEN IT'S A CAREER CAREER BUILDING, WORKFORCE TRAINING EXERCISE, AS YOU'RE FILLING OUT THAT PRODUCTION SCHEDULE AND THE BUDGET AND YOUR MARKETING PLANS, THOSE TEMPLATES WILL BE SET UP TO LEAD THE MUSICIANS TO KNOW, DID YOU TALK TO THE MUSICIANS? ARE THEY, I MEAN, TO THE VENUE, WILL THEY BE POSTING ON THEIR SOCIALS? YOU KNOW, IT WILL ALL BE BUILT IN.

SO THIS IS A GREAT WAY FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN, UM, BEST PRACTICES WHILE HAVING THIS, UH, THIS CONTRACT FOR SERVICE FOR THESE ACTIVITIES ALSO.

YES, I AGREE.

I ALSO WANT TO GIVE MUSICIANS SOME CREDIT TO THAT.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MUSICIANS OUT THERE THEY'RE DOING

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THIS VERY WELL.

AND THERE ARE VENUES THAT ARE DOING THAT OUT THERE THAT DOING THIS TERRIBLY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, VENUES ARE LEARNING ABOUT THIS TOO.

LIKE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE BEEN TO PLENTY OF SHOWS OF VENUES THAT ARE REALLY POORLY PROMOTED, UM, AND THEY DIDN'T DO THERE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND VICE VERSA, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK, AGAIN, WHAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT MOST IS JUST THE EMPOWERMENT OF FOLKS WITH, UM, WITH IDEAS, FOR CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MUSICIANS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT BE LAUREN, YOU HAVE AN IDEA OR A MUSICIAN OUT THERE THAT, UM, IS LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING CREATIVE WITH LIVE MUSIC.

THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO CREATE AN IDEA AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S AN ENTRY POINT TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, SAY, AH, I'VE BEEN WANTING TO PUT TOGETHER THIS ALL WOMEN'S, YOU KNOW, ACOUSTIC SHOWCASE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER.

NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OPPORTUNITY RIGHT HERE TO DO IT.

AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE, JUST, JUST MORE DIVERSE SITUATIONS, PERFORMANCE EXPERIENCES, AND I'VE EXPERIENCED THIS, BUT ALSO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A CATALYST FOR SOME, SOME PEOPLE, SOME ENTREPRENEURS OUT THERE THAT ARE GOING TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT'S LONG LASTING AND SUSTAINABLE.

UM, I SEE THAT.

SO EVERY, EVERY EVERYONE'S NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A HIT.

IT'S NOT, EVERYTHING'S NOT GOING TO TAKE OFF, BUT IN ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, YOU SEE THAT.

SO I THINK WHAT I W WHAT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE IS THIS IS LIKE, GIVE MUSICIANS A CHANCE TO TAKE THE REINS.

LIKE, JUST GIVE US A CHANCE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN OF THERE'S GOING TO BE THINGS THAT DON'T WORK, BUT I THINK IN MY HEART, AND I FEEL WITH MY OWN EXPERIENCE, THERE ARE GOING TO BE THINGS THAT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO BE AT A POINT TO AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT IT STARTED.

THEY, WE GAVE THEM THE, THE, THE SEED FUNDING FOR AN IDEA THAT HAS NOW GROWN INTO SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY POWERFUL FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND I BELIEVE THAT, AND I DO JUST WANT TO MENTION ONE MORE TIME ABOUT ALL THE VENUES THAT PARTICIPATED WITH JOYS WITH THEIR EQUITY PLANS.

THESE ARE THE VERY MUSICIANS THAT THEY NEED TO COLLABORATE WITH.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S A WIN-WIN TO KIND OF BRING THESE TWO PROGRAMS TOGETHER AND THE MATCHMAKING THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE NETWORKING AND THE COLLABORATION.

THESE ARE PILOT PROGRAMS. WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO END UP, BUT WE'LL HAVE EVERY GREAT INTENT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE AS SUPPORTIVE AS POSSIBLE, BOTH FOR THE VENUES AROUND THEIR STRATEGIC PLANS, BUT ALSO FOR THE MUSICIANS AND THE PROMOTERS THAT GET THE CONTRACTS FOR SERVICES.

SO IT'S A, WIN-WIN, IT'S CONNECTED.

AND I PERSONALLY CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IN FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DOES OUR LANDSCAPE LOOK LIKE IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW? I MEAN, MUCH LESS A YEAR FROM NOW, OR 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO IMPLY, BUT, UH, VENUES WOULD DELIBERATELY BE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MUSICIANS AT ALL.

I KNOW SOMETIMES WE HAVE THIS IDEA THAT WE KNOW, LIKE THIS SORT OF VENUE VERSUS MUSICIAN SITUATION IN AUSTIN.

AND I, YOU KNOW, I JUST KNOW EVERYBODY'S ONE, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD.

AND, UM, I'M REALLY ENCOURAGED BY THE RESPONSES THAT, UM, JOYCE JAMES SCOTT AND HER WORK.

SO, BUT YEAH, I JUST, I JUST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THE PROGRAM IS ABLE TO FOSTER THAT COLLABORATION AND IT DOES SOUND LIKE ERICA, YOU'RE SAYING SO RENTALS, LIKE IF THEY'RE CREATED MUSICIANS WILL IN PROMOTERS WILL BE ENCOURAGED TO LIKE CREATE THIS CONTRACT AND IT'LL INCLUDE SPECIFICS OF, OKAY, SO WE'RE RENTING YOUR SPACE.

YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS WITH MARKETING AND YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THIS AND CITY STAFF IS GOING TO HELP WITH SOME REVIEW OF THAT.

NO, NO, WE'LL, WE'LL PROVIDE A COMMUNITY CHAMPION.

IT'S GOING TO BE A THIRD PARTY.

THAT WOULD BE JUST KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH OUR RELATIONSHIPS IN THE PAST WITH A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO THAT WOULD NOT BE US THAT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE.

IT WOULD BE A CONSULTANT THAT THE CONTRACTORS COULD GO AND GET SOME, UH, UH, CASE MANAGEMENT AND SOME ADVICE AND SOME WORKFORCE TRAINING AROUND WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO.

AND IT WOULD COME FROM SOMEONE IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

IT WOULD COME FROM A GROUP THAT UNDERSTANDS AND HAS A TRACK RECORD OF WORKING WITH MUSICIANS AND TO BUILD CAREERS AND LEARN BEST PRACTICES FOR, UM, DOING EVENTS.

THINK 2, 1, 2 THINGS THAT I'M, OR ONE THING THAT I'M EXTREMELY, IS IT REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME IS THE, IS THE REVIEW COMPONENT OF THIS, SO THAT IN SIX MONTHS WE HAVE A MECHANISM TO SEE HOW IT'S GOING.

SO I JUST MEAN BECAUSE SOME OF THE EMERGING MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS, LIKE THEY REALLY WON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW TO DO SOME OF THESE THINGS.

SO I THINK THE GOAL OVERALL IS IF SOMEBODY WHO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROGRAM OR REMARKED IN THE COMMENTS LIKE SUSTAINABLE CAREERS AND SCAFFOLDING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

UM, SO I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

UM, I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW THIS CAN CONNECT WITH VENUES.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO, IF SOME OF THE MUSICIANS IN THE GROUP FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO RESERVE A SLICE OF THESE SPINES FOR VENUES TO ACCESS OR NOT.

UM, BUT, UH, I

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AND IF THINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT, LIKE THIS ISN'T WORKING, OR THIS IS WORKING, THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO THINK ABOUT WAYS TO FIX IT.

CAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT ALL OF THIS STUFF TAKES A REALLY, REALLY LONG TIME.

UM, SO I WOULD JUST LOVE, I REALLY WANT TO SEE THAT SPECIFICALLY BAKED INTO THE FRAMEWORK THAT IT'S GONNA BE REVIEWED BY THIS COMMISSION BY MAINLY MAKE A WORKING GROUP FOR THAT.

SO WE KIND OF WORK IN GROUP NUMBER 101, BUT ANYWAY, IT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO DO.

AND, UM, SO THAT WE, WE GET IT RIGHT.

UM, AND I DEFINITELY WANT IT, THESE, THE SPRING WORK, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR.

I REALLY WANT THINGS TO BE FIXED BEFORE THEY LEAVE THE GATE.

SO THAT THERE'S COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY.

AND IT DOESN'T, IF IT GOES TO ANOTHER PARTY OR EVEN IF IT'S CITY STAFF THAT WERE SAYING LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE APPROVED, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO HAPPEN.

AND THERE'S NO, LIKE MOVING THE GOAL POSTS AND PEOPLE LATER SAYING LIKE, OH, WELL THE PROGRAM WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS.

AND THEN IT CHANGED TO THIS.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN, BUT I THINK SOMETIME, YOU KNOW, I JUST, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE FRAMEWORK IS AND THAT IT STAYS FIXED, BUT WE DO PLAN TO REVIEW IT.

UM, IT A SIX AND 12 MONTHS, UM, POINTS, I THINK THAT'S IT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, BUT ANYBODY ELSE ON THE GROUP, IS THERE A STOPPING POINT, UH, TONIGHT OR, UM, WE JUST GONNA, UH, KEEP GOING TO W W W WHERE WE STOP IN OR TONIGHT.

SO WE STILL HAVE STUFF TO COVER.

SO I THINK THE NEXT, BASICALLY, ERICA, WHEN YOU, AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, YOU, YOU SAID YOU'LL INCORPORATE FEEDBACK, BRING IT BACK TO US FOR A FINAL REVIEW AND THEN WE'LL, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL REVIEW THAT IN SEPTEMBER.

THREE B DISCUSSING A POSSIBLE ACTION AFTER UPDATE ON THE AUSTIN.

UM, UM, DEFINITELY I KNOW I'VE RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE ABOUT THE THIRD PARTY.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY, UM, DISCUSS IF NOT TONIGHT THEN FOR SURE.

SEPTEMBER, YOU KNOW, UM, WELL, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO COVER THAT STUFF IN OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT ITEM, ACTUALLY WITH THE AEDC SO OPTIONS FOR SURE.

I KNOW IF THAT'S ON THE TABLE, SO I GUESS WE'LL MOVE TO

[3B. Discussion and Possible Action after update on Austin Economic Development Corporation (AEDC).]

OH, IS EVERYBODY, IS EVERYBODY DONE? DOES ANYONE, ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I'M SORRY.

I JUMP IN AT 3:00 PM AND WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY, COOL.

GOOD, GOOD APOLOGIES.

UM, DISCUSSING A POSSIBLE ACTION AFTER UPDATE ON AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

I THINK WE HAVE DAVID COLLAGEN WITH US TONIGHT, UH, TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE TO WHERE ADC IS AT.

SO DAVID, IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN, THAT'D BE AWESOME.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

UH, SO DAVID COLLAGEN WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UH, SERVING TO SUPPORT THE STARTUP OF AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AS MARIN COUNCIL, UH, CREATED THE ENTITY IN OCTOBER OF 2020.

SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY TO STRUCTURE OUT OUR INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT, WHICH WAS PASSED, UH, JUST BEFORE COUNCIL WENT ON BREAK.

SO WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING THROUGH MORE OF THOSE PRIORITY PROJECTS AS WE NOW HAVE MORE CLEARANCE TO BE ABLE TO, TO WORK WITH THEN SPECIFIC CAPACITIES THAT WERE DEFINED AND THAT INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT, UH, TWO OF WHICH WERE FOCUSED ON SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, WHICH WE'VE SPOKEN WITH A NUMBER OF YOU ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE DEVELOPMENTS OF CREATIVE AND MUSIC SPACE WITHIN THAT POTENTIAL DISTRICT, SHOULD THE CITY HAVE LEVERAGE TO NEGOTIATE.

UM, AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE CULTURAL TRUST.

UH, WE MET WITH OUR CONSULTANTS THIS PAST WEEK, SO WE CAN START TO REVIEW THE OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY THAT WE WANT TO START PUTTING INTO PLACE WHILE WE FINALIZE THE RFP, UH, WHICH MEANS WE WILL NEED TO RECONVENE THAT WORKING GROUP, UH, FOR, FOR FINAL EVALUATION OF THE DOCUMENT BEFORE IT'S MADE PUBLIC.

WE HAVE ALSO BEEN WORKING ON STAFFING, OUR FIRST POSITION, WHICH IS OUR TRANSACTIONS OFFICER, WHICH, UH, IS STILL CONFIDENTIAL BECAUSE WE'RE NEGOTIATING A, THE FINAL OFFER.

BUT WE LOOK TO HAVE THAT PERSON ON

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BOARD, UH, FOR THE 1ST OF SEPTEMBER.

AND THAT PERSON WILL BE CRITICAL TO HELPING US RUN THE FULL PROCESS THROUGH THE RFP.

WE'RE FOCUSED ON HOW IT IS.

WE CAN SUPPORT THAT OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT FOR CAPACITY BUILDING TO BE ABLE TO START THE REVIEW AND THE APPLICATION PROCESS, THAT PERSON WILL HELP US TO, TO CLOSE THINGS OUT.

UM, I KNOW VERONICA WAS ON THE LINE, WHO IS OUR INTERIM PRESIDENT AND CEO.

AND SO I CAN LOOK TO HER FOR ADDITIONAL UPDATES AS NEEDED.

GOOD EVENING.

I THINK YOU DID A GOOD JOB OF COVERING EVERYTHING.

DAVID WE'RE JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND, UH, HEAR ANY FEEDBACK.

UM, WELL I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT THE MUSIC COMMUNITY AND THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN IS THE ABILITY OF THE ADC TO, UM, FUNDRAISE THROUGH PRO PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

I'VE BROUGHT IT UP IN MULTIPLE MEETINGS AND, UM, SHAKA SAID, WE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LIVE MUSIC FUND ADMINISTRATION.

SHOULD THAT STAY, UM, AN EDD, SHOULD IT MOVE TO A THIRD PARTY? WE DID HAVE, UM, A COMMUNITY GROUP SUGGEST THIS WEEK.

CAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE AWARE CAUSE YOU WERE COPIED ON THE EMAIL, BUT SUGGESTING THAT THE ABC COULD ADMINISTER THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, UM, BECAUSE THE AEDC WOULD HAVE THAT ABILITY TO, UM, BRING CORPORATE PHILANTHROPY INTO THE FUND.

AS YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW, UM, HOT FUNDS ARE NOT STABLE AND LESS, A LOT LESS THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD BE.

AND THE PANDEMIC IS SEEMS KIND OF NEVER ENDING AT THIS POINT.

SO YEAH, I THINK THAT, THAT'S MY QUESTION FOR THE AEC AT THIS MOMENT.

LIKE WHAT, WHAT ARE THE ABILITIES FOR Y'ALL TO RAISE FUNDS FOR LIVE MUSIC, UM, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH HELP INVEST IN OUR ECONOMY THROUGH CORPORATE PHILANTHROPY.

AND COULD YOU TAKE ON ADMIN? SO THEN TO FOLLOW UP QUESTION AND THEN I'LL LET YOU SPEAK VERONICA.

UH, WOULD WE, YOU KNOW, IF, DO YOU NEED THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AS SORT OF A STARTING POINT FOR THAT? OR COULD THIS HAPPEN ENTIRELY SEPARATELY? YOU HAVE THE ABILITY OR CAPACITY AT THIS POINT.

SO SAY ABC IS NEW TO ADMINISTER A FUND.

SO WHAT, WHAT CAN, HOW CAN YOU ADVISE US ON ALL OF THAT? SO I'LL START BY SAYING THAT WE AND IS WEARING BOTH HATS, EDD AND EDC.

WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED IS A GRAY IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WE'RE WITH EVERYTHING WE'RE WORKING TO SEE WHAT'S THE FASTEST WAY FORWARD AND THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY.

UM, WE HAVE SET UP THE EDC TO BE ABLE TO FUNDRAISE AND THAT'S, WE ALSO SET IT UP WITH, WITH THE IDEA THAT WE NEEDED TO BE NIMBLE.

UM, SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF PARTNERSHIP THE EDC IS DOING, WE'RE HIRING OUR FIRST EMPLOYEE.

WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND, UM, AND AS EMPLOYEES ALREADY LOOKING TO WHAT COUNSEL HAS ASKED THE EDC DEPART TO PRIORITIZE, WHICH INCLUDES, UM, LOOKING AT, UH, HOW WE CAN ASSIST OUR CREATIVE, UH, INDUSTRIES AND SECTOR.

UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, IF WE ARE READY TO DEPLOY FUNDS FASTER FUNDS FASTER AS A DEPARTMENT THAN WE WILL CERTAINLY GO FORWARD THAT WAY AND THE LONGTERM, I THINK THAT THIS EDC WILL BE VERY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF LEVERAGING FUNDS, RAISING FUNDS AND SO FORTH.

AND THEN THE FINAL THING I'LL SAY IS THAT WE ARE TALKING TO LAW AS WELL, WHEN IT COMES TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE HOT TAX FUNDS.

UM, WE'RE TALKING A LOT TO WHAT ABILITY DO WE HAVE TO USE THE, THE, TO LEVERAGE THE EDC IN THAT IS AS WELL? DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES.

YEP.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING WHERE, IN TERMS OF THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATION OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, COULD WE AS A COMMISSION, I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR US TO SEE LIKE SOMETHING ON PAPER OR PROPOSAL.

LIKE HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IF EDD MANAGES, UH, HERE'S THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION FEE, LIKE HERE'S THE ABILITY TO BRING IN IF THERE ISN'T, I DON'T KNOW ALL THE INNER WORKINGS, BUT IF THERE IS AN ABILITY TO FUNDRAISE AND HERE'S HOW, UM, THE ADC WOULD DO IT, HERE'S WHAT THE CAPABILITIES ARE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANOTHER THROWN IT BACK TO STAFF, IF THERE'S ANOTHER THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND OR THAT ANYBODY WHO HAS IN MIND, LIKE, LIKE IT, WE JUST HAVE TO SEE SOME THINGS ON PAPER, I THINK IN TERMS TO, TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE THAT AS A COMMISSION.

UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD REQUEST FROM, FROM BOTH EDD AND ABC AT THIS TIME.

WELL, I I'D LIKE TO ADD BEFORE WE START REQUESTING OF, OF A, OF AEDC, WHAT IS THE COMPARATIVE ADVANTAGE OF AEDC OVER THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE? RIGHT? ONE OF THE, THE, THE BIG

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COD WAS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO REAL ESTATE AND NEGOTIATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, A E D C CAN DO QUITE WELL.

UM, ANOTHER THING THAT YOU BROUGHT UP IS THEIR ABILITY TO, UH, STRUCTURE PUBLIC PRIVATE FINANCING, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ADMINISTRATION OF CITY FUNDS, THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S STRAIGHT OUT ADMINISTRATION, SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DOES QUITE WELL.

SO ESPECIALLY WHILE THEY ONLY HAVE ONLY A SINGLE PERSON TO ADMINISTER ANYTHING.

I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW THE PURPOSE OF ASKING A EDC TO TAKE OVER THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE THEIR COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE OR COMPARATIVE ADVANTAGE.

SO I HAVE THIS IDEA OF A THIRD BODY I'M MEAN A COUPLE OF PRESENTERS WE'VE COMMISSIONED MEETINGS.

UM, THEY, THEY TALK ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, OR ON FAVORING, BUT WE, THE STUDENT BODY IS, UM, IT'S ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS AND THE PRESENTATIONS THAT THEY GET IT, HE JUST DID.

UH, HOW BOUT WE, UM, I MEAN, ESSENTIALLY THIS HAS TO BE A VERY INFORMED DECISION AS INFORMED AS CAN BE IF WE, BECAUSE HOW MANY MUSICIANS, UM, YOU KNOW, LIFE'S ECONOMY IMPACT.

UM, SO WHY DON'T WE JUST FORMALLY REQUEST, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE ADC, IF THERE IS INTEREST AND THEIR CAPABILITY OR THE FEASIBILITY OF ADC, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ADMINISTERING, UH, THE LIVE MUSIC, UH, FUND AS A THIRD PARTY CAN BE, UM, CAN I MOTION FOR THAT AT THIS POINT, SO THAT MAYBE WE CAN REQUEST THEM TO COME BACK AND PRESENT SOME THINGS, UH, FOR ME IN THE SEPTEMBER MEETING.

AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I'M SUPPOSED TO DO A PHRASE IT ANY DIFFERENTLY.

I LOOK AT THE WHITES BECAUSE THEY WOULD JUST HELP ME REPHRASE IT, LIKE TO ACTUALLY AT THIS POINT, UM, FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION TO REQUEST, UM, ADC TO COME BACK WITH FIRST REPORT, IS THERE INTEREST, AND SECONDLY, IF THERE IS INTEREST, WHAT IS THE FEASIBILITY FOR THEM? UH, IF YOU ADMINISTER THIS FUND.

SO IF I COULD, UM, THE ANSWER THAT WE HAVE NO PROBLEM CONSIDERING IT, OF COURSE, BUT, UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT NEXT STEPS, FROM THE EDD PERSPECTIVE, WE WILL BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE OVERALL ON THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE WITH THE MOVING FORWARD, UM, WITH A LOT OF THESE, WITH MULTIPLE FUNDING PROGRAMS AND THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL GAVE US RECENTLY, UH, WHEN WE RELEASED THAT MEMO TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE WILL CERTAINLY GIVE YOU A COPY OF THAT, SO YOU CAN BE UPDATED AS WELL.

UM, BUT GOING BACK TO THE TIMING, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE FASTER WAY TO MOVE AND THE EDC STAFF, THE FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBER THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BRINGING ON BOARD, WON'T START UNTIL THE END OF AUGUST.

SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO ADMINISTER QUICKER THROUGH EDD, WE CERTAINLY WILL.

WE'LL DO THAT.

UM, WE ALSO, THE EDD, THE EDC, SORRY, IS, UH, IS FLEDGLING.

AND THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING SOME ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES, LIKE OUR BANK ACCOUNTS.

AND, UM, AND, AND, UM, OUR INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY WHILE WE HAVE IT APPROVED BY COUNCIL FOR GOING THROUGH THE SIGNATURE AUTHORITY TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL LITTLE, NOT LITTLE THINGS, BUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE TASKS LIKE THAT.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THAT AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE HAPPY TO, UM, PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE AS THE EDC AND AS EDD AND THE PATHS FORWARD.

YEAH, YEAH.

I MEAN, I, I, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN, UM, INFORMATION THAT EDD HAS PRESENTED AT THIS POINT AND REALLY APPRECIATE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE AND AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE CRITERIA THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED, UH, IF NOT EVERYTHING, BUT THAT'S BOUND TO HAPPEN.

BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'M REALLY SUGGESTING IS BECAUSE THE CONVERSATION HAS COME UP MULTIPLE TIMES.

CAN WE JUST HAVE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US? IT'S NOT PERHAPS MAKING ONE RECOMMENDATION OR THE OTHER, BUT ESSENTIALLY JUST GETTING THE INFORMATION FORMALLY AT THIS POINT.

UM, ABC BROADLY, HOW I UNDERSTAND IT IS FAIRLY REPRESENTATIVE IN TERMS OF, UH, IF IT'S THE MUSIC PIECE OF IT, THEN THERE ARE FOLKS FROM THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN THE MIX.

THERE IS ALSO A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ASPECT OF IT THAT I UNDERSTAND THE HUB.

SO WE CAN JUST REQUEST INFORMATION AT THIS POINT ABOUT, UH, AGAIN, UH, IS THERE INTEREST IN THE FIRST PLACE, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE ALSO HANDLING THE PERIOD OF SPACE BOND.

UH, THAT'S HOW I, I KNOW WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE ADC ESSENTIALLY.

UM, AND ALSO IF THERE IS INTEREST IN WHAT IS THE CAPACITY, WHAT IS THE CAPABILITIES OF PDC, UH, TO GET THE JOB DONE? LIKE TO SECOND THAT I ALSO JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, AEDC IS A PARTNER TO THE CITY WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND ACTUALLY WE HAD A MEETING EARLIER TONIGHT WITH THE URBAN RENEWAL BOARD, UH, WHICH FOCUSES ON THE URBAN RENEWAL AGENCY THAT HAS CITY STAFF WHILE WE WERE ABLE TO DO OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST

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TWO MONTHS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE INTRODUCED ADC TO THEM BECAUSE A NUMBER OF THEM WERE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ORGANIZATION AND WHERE WE STOOD TO DATE.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH INDIVIDUALS FROM A WORKING GROUP, UH, TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES, BUT WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT WHILE ALSO WORKING WITH STAFF.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT US TO JUST BE FIXATED ON ADC BENEFITS.

WE CERTAINLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT, UH, SUPPORTS SOME PARTNERS WITH THE CITY.

SO I'D ALSO JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE KNOW, WE'LL BE COORDINATING WITH STAFF, UH, FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL.

THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT.

AND, UM, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY MEMBERS FROM THE EDD ON THE ABC BOARD, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, SO THE, THE, THE INPUTS, UM, AND, UM, UH, THAT GO THROUGH THIS MUSIC COMMISSION, THE INPUTS THAT EDD PROVIDES MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE IS REPRESENTATION ON THE ATC BOOK ON THAT FRONT.

AND IF I COULD SPEAK TO, IF THERE'S AN INTEREST, UH, NOT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD, BUT JUST FROM WHAT I'VE OBSERVED IN THE BOARD MEETINGS FOR THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK THERE'S INTEREST FROM THE BOARD AND HAVING, UM, A RELATIONSHIP IN THIS SPACE.

SO I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE LITERALLY BUILDING THE PLANE AS WE'RE FLYING IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE CAPACITY AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SETTING THIS UP FOR FAILURE EITHER.

SO THERE, I DO THINK THEY ENVISION A LONGTERM, UM, RELATIONSHIP AND CERTAINLY RIGHT OFF.

AND IT'S ONE OF THE TWO MAIN PRIORITIES THAT COUNCIL HAS TASKED THE EDC TO LOOK AT STARTING WITH THE CREATIVE SPACE, UH, BONDS, BUT ALSO, I, THERE'S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT COUNCIL'S INTENTION IS AS BROADER THAN THAT.

UM, SO I THINK THAT THERE YOU'LL SEE MORE FROM THE EDC BOARD IN THAT REGARD, AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE STAFFING UP AND GETTING GEARED UP, UH, AND MOVING FORWARD HAVE UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING IS ACTUALLY NOT UNTIL ALMOST MID SEPTEMBER BECAUSE OF THE LABOR DAY HOLIDAY.

SO WE WON'T BE IMPLEMENTING THE GUIDELINES BEFORE, BEFORE THEN ANYWAY, BUT YEAH, YOUR NEW EMPLOYEE, I THINK WILL BE SUPER BUSY, BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU GUYS CAN TELL US ABOUT.

UM, SO I DID TALK OR HAVE PLAYED PHONE TAG WITH ANNABELLA VERA TODAY.

HE'LL BE JOINING OUR MEETINGS GOING FORWARD, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, PREPARING A FORMAL UPDATE FOR US.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE REALLY, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE SPECIFIC FUND OR A PARALLEL FUND, HOW THE ADC CAN, CAN REALLY HELP IN THE BEST AND THE LIVE MUSIC ECONOMY AND GROWING HERE.

SO THANKS.

UH, I, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PROCEED WITH MY MOTION.

I SECOND, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE I, I, YOU KNOW, LET'S GAUGE WHAT, WHAT THE TEAM HERE HAS TO SAY.

UM, WELL WITH THAT, THANK YOU.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON THAT, BUT HE JUST MOTION.

RIGHT.

AND YOUR SECOND NAME, AMERICAN AND CHRIS.

SO I CAN DO, SIR, CAN YOU REPEAT THE MOTION, THE MOTION, AND THE SECOND BE REPEATED PLEASE ONLY MADE THE MOTION.

AND, UM, PERSONALLY COMMISSIONER SECOND, THAT WAS THE MOTION, SORRY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.

THE MOTION, UH, WAS TO REQUEST, UM, INFORMATION ON INTEREST AND FEASIBILITY FROM ABC TO ADMINISTER, UM, UH, THE LIFE AS A THIRD PARTY.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT WHAT IS THE, UM, WHAT IS THE, HOW DOES THE CITY OUTREACH, IF THERE, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN BEING IN THIRD PARTIES, HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? HOW DID THAT, HOW DO WE ENGAGE OR, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? FIRST OF ALL, DID WE GET A, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

I'M NOT SURE HOW EMOTIONS ARE DEFINED, ALTHOUGH I'M SUPPOSED TO BE THE ROCK.

I NEED TO LOOK IT UP AND ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION AND FEEDBACK IS WHAT, UH, UH, EMOTIONS FOR USUALLY IT'S PART OF SOMETHING WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO COUNCIL OR SOMETHING WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE STAFF, SOMETHING TO DO WITH, UH, MORE DIRECT RECOMMENDATION AT THE GOVERNANCE POLICY, AS OPPOSED TO A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION AND THE START OF A DIALOGUE.

THIS SEEMS TO ME MORE LIKE AN AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE ASK THE 80 ADC TO COME BACK WITH INFORMATION, SO TO FEED OUR DISCUSSION.

THAT SOUNDS RIGHT.

THANKS, GRAHAM.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, SO NOW WHILE YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, BRING THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING AT A SUIT ATTENDED, THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO APPROACH IT, THEN YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD, UM, ADCC INTEREST IN FEASIBILITY TO ADMINISTER THE LIGHT MUSIC FUND IS A THIRD PARTY TO THE AGENDA FOR THE SEPTEMBER MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING.

AND, UM, I'M CURIOUS, UM, JUST

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DID WE GET A SECOND ON NAGALASE MOTION AGENDA? YES, WE GOT IT.

YES, BUT I, I, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT ALSO, AND I APOLOGIZE.

I HAD A CHILD TALKING TO ME, I BELIEVE THE QUESTION WAS, HOW DO WE DO OUTREACH TO CONSIDER A THIRD PARTY FOR ADMINISTERING THE FUNDS? YEAH.

SO IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT AEDC, BUT THERE'S ALSO, OBVIOUSLY OTHER PEOPLE THAT COULD HANDLE THIS.

UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE PRETTY, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE BUILDING A SHIP WHILE YOU'RE FLYING, YOU KNOW, UM, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A LOT, SO WHAT, WHAT IF THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP OR HOW, HOW DO WE, UM, HOW DO WE GET THEM TO BE IN THE RUNNING OR WE THOUGHT ABOUT, OR WHAT'S THAT WHAT'S THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? ABSOLUTELY.

SO ON THE EDD SIDE, WE HAVE A TEAM OF EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THE, IN THIS AREA, UM, INCLUDING THE, UM, THE, UH, THE WOMEN ON THIS CALL, UM, AND, UH, HAVE WORKED AT IDENTIFYING A LIST OF POTENTIAL THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATORS AND GOING THROUGH A, UH, A PROCESS OF INTERVIEWING AND, AND ASKING ABOUT CAPACITY AND SO FORTH.

UM, IF THERE ARE THIRD PARTIES THAT ANYBODY ON THIS MEETING HAS IN MIND, WE'RE HAPPY TO, IF YOU SEND US THE NAME, WE'RE HAPPY TO RESEARCH THAT AS WELL.

SO WE DO WANT TO HAVE AS MUCH OF A, UM, CONSIDER AS MANY OPTIONS AS POSSIBLE.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL, WE KNOW WHO, LIKE, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY.

SO YOU, YOU ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE, OR CAN YOU SHARE THAT? OR, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE LIKE, KNOW WHO'S IN THE RUNNING OR SHAKA? I WOULD RECOMMEND A STAFF UPDATE ON THIS FOR THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A DETAILED THING.

AND WE THINK THAT NO, NO, NO, NO, IT'S GREAT.

BUT WE HAVE THREE THINGS LEFT IN 15 MINUTES, BUT I THINK IT'S A GREAT, UH, STAFF UPDATE ITEMS ARE NICE.

TO TABLE THE WORKING GROUPS DISCUSSION UNTIL NEXT MONTH.

SO I GUESS, UH, THIS, ADD THAT TO THE, UH, AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

DO I NEED EMOTIONAL EITHER? YEAH.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON FOR FUTURE ITEM, BUT THEN YOU WOULD NEED, ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I'M GOING TO MOSTLY TO, UH, ADD CONVERSATION, UM, FROM STAFF ABOUT, UM, THIRD PARTY, UM, CONSIDERATIONS.

SO FOLKS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THIRD PARTY, UH, FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IS THAT TO GET FROM BROWN.

OKAY, AWESOME.

I WILL MOTION

[3C. Discussion and Possible Action on which working groups are still active and which are dissolved.]

AND POSSIBLE ACTION AFTER UPDATE FROM FINANCE WORKING GROUP.

DO YOU THINK WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT SINCE IT'S ON THE AGENDA? OKAY.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING.

YEAH, NO, I JUST LOST IT.

IT WAS, UM, PULLED UP, BUT, UH, CAN SOMEONE JUST READ THAT FOR ME? I JUST, IT JUST, THE AGENDA JUST DISAPPEARED DISCUSSION

[3E. Discussion and Possible Actin after update from Finance Working Group.]

UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED NOW.

UH, KIM, I SENT A LINK TO THE PRESENTATION TO EARLIER THIS EVENING.

DID YOU GET IT? SO I WAS ABLE TO GET THE, UH, THE SLIDES.

CAN WE, SO THAT WOULD BE THE AUSTIN MUSIC BUDGET OR PRESENTATION.

IS THAT RIGHT? UH, YEAH.

WHAT DID I CALL IT? UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I CALLED IT.

SO THIS IS THE, THIS IS WHAT I HAD BEFORE I LEFT TO COME UP TO CITY HALL.

THAT'S IT? NO FRILLS, VERY SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD, WHICH IS GOOD.

CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME.

UH, LET'S GO STRAIGHT TO SLIDE NUMBER TWO, PLEASE.

DOWN, UH, IT WAS ME AND GAVIN AND WE SPOKE TO SO NOVIA AND WE SAID, WHAT ARE THE SOURCES OF MONEY THAT THE CITY SPENDS ON MUSIC THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION SHOULD BE INFLUENCING? AND HERE THEY ARE.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS FINANCE WORKING GROUP IS TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF ALL OF THE SOURCES OF FUNDING, BECAUSE IT GETS CONFUSING THIS MONEY, THAT MONEY, UM, YOU KNOW, ALREADY WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT QUITE A FEW OF THESE.

SO WHAT, THE FIRST THING WE DID IS WE, WE SAT

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AT FIRST OFF, WE GOT THE CREATIVE SPACE BOND, $12 MILLION APPROVED NOVEMBER, 2018.

UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT THIS WERE WORKED OUT AS PART OF A JOINT WORKING GROUP WITH THE ARTS COMMISSION, THE GUIDELINES, UH, HAVE, UM, WERE THE, THE, THE ECO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, UH, PUT THESE TOGETHER.

AND THIS IS GOING TO BE OVERSEEN BY THE AEDC.

IT WILL BE ADMINISTERED BY THE AEDC.

WE HAVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET EMMA TO ANSWER ALL OF THOSE WHEN HE COMES NEXT MONTH.

THAT'S A CREATIVE SPACE BOND NEXT V A AMERICAN RECOVERY PLAN ACT FUND PANDEMIC FUNDING.

HUNDRED AND $88 MILLION WENT TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN OF WHICH, UM, THIS WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY.

UH, WE ASKED FOR $10 MILLION OVER TWO YEARS.

UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE THAT NUMBER IS 4 MILLION.

ALTHOUGH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HAD ASKED FOR 5 MILLION, MEANWHILE, THERE'S 6 MILLION THAT'S DEDICATED TO ARTS.

UH, BUT ALSO FROM THAT MONEY IS MONEY THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST MONTH.

AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING THE $2 MILLION FOR NONPROFITS.

NOW, UH, DAVID GRAY GOT IN TOUCH WITH ME TO GIVE ME AN UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT MONEY.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE A FOLLOW ON OF EXACTLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH THAT EDD LAUNCHED THE AUSTIN ARTS AND CULTURE NON-PROFIT RELIEF GRANT, UH, DETAILS ARE, ARE RIGHT HERE.

NOW, WE'RE STILL NOT SURE ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO END UP ADMINISTERING THE 4 MILLION AND 6 MILLION FOR MUSIC AND ARTS, NOT TO BE DISCUSSED NOW, BUT THAT'S AN OPEN QUESTION.

AND THEN WE WILL STILL WANT TO KNOW WHEN THOSE GRANTS WILL BE OFFERED NEXT UP CONTINGENCY FUND.

NOW THIS WAS, THIS IS A ONE-TIME THING.

THEY LOOK AT THE HOT TAX RECORD AND THEY FOUND THAT THERE ARE $2.4 MILLION FROM THE HOT TAXES THAT WERE NOT, THAT THAT HAD NOT BEEN ALLOCATED.

SO OF THAT 1 MILLION OF THIS IS DEDICATED TO THE PRESERVATION OF ICONIC VENUE VENUES THAT WILL BE OVERSEEN BY THE AEDC.

NOW THAT WAS, I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THAT HAPPENED AND HOW THAT DECISION GOT MADE.

UM, WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.

WE'LL GET THEM ALL ANSWERED, BUT THAT'S PRECISELY WHY WE NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE, UH, ALL OF THESE STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON TOP OF ALL OF THE SPENDING.

UM, NOW THERE'S OTHER MONEY REMAINING.

WE DON'T KNOW WHO HAS WHO'S ADMINISTERING IT.

WHEN WILL THE GRANTS BE OFFERED, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE IDENTIFYING THE SOURCES.

AND THEN, UM, FINALLY THERE'S HOT TAX FUNDING.

NOW WHAT I WANT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE THREE SOURCES THAT I MENTIONED AND THE HOT TAX FUNDING IS THE THREE THAT WE'VE MENTIONED.

THEY'RE ALL ONE TIME, UM, WINDFALLS, OKAY.

AMOUNTING TO, UM, 18, OVER $18 MILLION.

THE HOT TAX FUNDING WILL BE COMING IN ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S A LOT LESS OF IT.

AND THERE'S ESPECIALLY A LOT LESS BECAUSE OF, UH, DECREASED ECONOMIC ECONOMIC ACTIVITY BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.

SO AT THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THERE WILL BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 2.5 AND $2.9 MILLION AVAILABLE IN THIS LIVE MUSIC FUND.

AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW, AND IF THE CITY'S MOVING TO STAGE FOUR, STAGE FIVE, IT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED 2.5 MILLION, RIGHT? IT ALL, IT ALL AFFECTS US.

UH, THE, UH, UM, SO NOVIA BECAUSE OF THE UNCERTAINTY ONLY WANTS TO BUDGET 2.5 MILLION FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, UH, FOR THE COMING YEAR JUST TO BE CONSERVATIVE, BUT WE WILL BE IN A VERY BAD SITUATION IF WE ACTUALLY SPENT MORE MONEY THAN WE HAVE.

NOW, WE WERE DISCUSSING HOW THE, WE, WE SAW QUITE A DETAILED PRESENTATION ABOUT HOW THAT LIVE MUSIC FUND WILL BE ADMINISTERED.

WE WERE DISCUSSING WHO WILL ADMINISTER IT.

WE DON'T KNOW.

UM, APPARENTLY THERE'S AN APPLICATION PORTAL THAT WILL BE OPENING IN FALL OF

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2021.

UM, BUT THOSE ARE THE FOUR SOURCES OF FUNDING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY AWARE OF.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT REALIZE THAT WE ONLY HAVE SEVEN MINUTES TOTAL.

THAT, HEY, LET'S, LET'S THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHAT THE, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

LET'S LET'S GET CLEAR.

UM, YES, I WOULD JUST LOVE TO GET, TO MAKE SURE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE A COPY OF IT.

AND THEN THAT JUST, YEAH, IT JUST HELPS US KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT.

I MEAN, WE DID TALK ABOUT SOME OTHER POSSIBILITIES FOR FUNDING TONIGHT, SO MAYBE WE'LL HAVE A FIFTH COLUMN ON THERE, DAVID.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT WORK.

THERE'S ONE MORE SLIDE.

THAT IS A GREAT DOCUMENT.

OR THE ONE CLARIFICATION I WOULD MAKE IS THE 12 MILLION IS FOR MUSIC AND ARTS AND IT WAS NOT SPECIFIED WHETHER IT WAS HALF AND HALF OR IN WHAT WAY WAS DIVIDED BETWEEN ARTS AND MUSIC.

AND THAT'S STILL, I THINK, IN AN EVOLVING SITUATION ESSENTIALLY IN THE HANDS OF ABC AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE.

WELL LOOK, AND LOOK, I, WE, WE'VE HAD LOTS OF PHILOSOPHICAL CONVERSATIONS.

CAN YOU DRAW A LINE BETWEEN ARTS AND MUSIC? UM, SO IT, THAT IT'S, WE'VE MADE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, THE EIGHT ADC, BUT ALSO THERE'S NO COMMITMENT EITHER WAY AND THERE'S NO OBSTACLE TOWARDS THEM WORKING TOGETHER AND MAYBE WORK, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY GET A GREATER GOOD.

UH, EXACTLY.

LET'S UH, I, I LIKE THAT.

UM, OKAY.

NOW SOME NOTES ABOUT CONTROL OF FUNDS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINANCES.

UH, I WAS, I WAS ALLUDING TO THIS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WHEN THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED VERONICA KNOW, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHO CONTROLS PHONE THE FUNDS, AND LET'S BE STRAIGHT WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES OF EACH AND BOTH OF THEM ARE, UH, BOTH THE, UM, THE CITY AND AEDC ARE FULLY CAPABLE OF MAKING THESE POINTS THEMSELVES.

UH, THE ADVANTAGES OF AEDC IS THERE, UH, IS THEIR SPEED IN DEVELOPING NEW FUNCTIONS ONCE THEY GET FULLY STAFFED AND, UH, THEIR SKILL IN REAL ESTATE NEGOTIATION, THEY WERE PUT TOGETHER TO BE AGILE.

THE ADVANTAGES OF THE, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE IS THAT, UH, UNTIL THEY'RE STAFFED UP THE EIGHTIES, ADC CAN'T DO MUCH, UH, THERE ARE LOWER COSTS WITH THEM BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HAVING A THIRD-PARTY OR AEDC ADMINISTER THESE THINGS, THEY WILL TAKE SOME MONEY RIGHT OFF THE TOP, TYPICALLY FOUR TO FOUR TO 10% IN ADMINISTRATIVE FEES.

AND, UM, THE CITY, MEANWHILE HAS ACCESS TO CITY ON PROPERTIES.

UM, THEY HAVE ESTABLISHED FUNDING AND THEY CAN, UH, THEY HAVE THEIR STAFFING AND THEY CAN ALSO DRAW ON THE CITY OF AUSTIN STAFFING.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS POINTED OUT TO US, UH, AND CHARLOTTE, YOU'RE TALKING IN PARTICULAR ABOUT, UH, AED C'S CAPABILITY OF RAISING MONEY FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

UH, THE CITY DOES HAVE A MECHANISM TO RAISE MONEY FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHETHER THEY WILL BE AS, UH, UH, EFFECTIVE IN THAT AS, UH, THE AEDC REMAINS TO BE SEEN, BUT PEOPLE CAN, OH, WAIT.

SO PEOPLE, SO PEOPLE CAN CONTRIBUTE DIRECTLY TO THE AEDC.

THEY CAN ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO A CITY OVERSEEING DONATION FUND, AND THERE IS AN ARTS DONATION FUND THAT ALREADY EXISTS, SUCH A FUN, COULD BE CREATED FOR MUSIC.

SO, UM, AS A REMINDER, REALLY QUICK, WE HAVE A FOUR MINUTE WARNING AND WE DO HAVE A HARD STOP AT NINE 30.

THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE.

THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT, UM, UH, BOTH, UM, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER GOULD AND I WILL BE ON THE JOINT ARTS AND MUSIC WORKING GROUP ON ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES.

SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP YOU GUYS INFORMED ON ALL OF THE MONEY WHERE IT IS AND WHO'S, AND WHAT STAGES IT'S IN.

THAT WAS LIKE THE, WHAT, LIKE THE WEATHER WEATHER BEFORE NOW.

I APPRECIATE IT.

FROM THE SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP QUICKLY.

GLAD TO, GLAD TO HAVE YOU INVOLVED IN, IN THESE WORKING GROUPS, UH, COMING UP AND, UH, APPRECIATE ALL THAT, THAT HARD WORK.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING SOME FISCAL MANAGEMENT.

UM, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO.

WELL, WE'RE GONNA, UM, TABLE, UH, WELL ACTUALLY, NO, WE JUST HAVE THIS UPDATE

[3F. Discussion and Possible Action after update from Systemic Racism Working Group.]

[02:55:01]

UM, WE'RE STILL, UH, DEVELOPING SOMETHING, A TEMPLATE THAT HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO BRING TO, UH, THE SEPTEMBER MEETING FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR VENUES IN TERMS OF DEALING WITH ARTISTS AND, UM, JUST WHAT ARTISTS CAN KIND OF EXPECT IN TERMS OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP AND JUST SOMETHING TO CLEAR ABOUT THEIR EQUITY POLICY AND ALL THAT.

UM, SO, UM, WE'RE STILL IN THAT PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THAT.

AND AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING, UM, IN SEPTEMBER FOR Y'ALL TO LOOK AT, UM, THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT IT.

UM, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? NAH, WE GOT TWO MINUTES.

UM, KIM,

[FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

UH, CAN, CAN YOU READ BACK THE STUFF THAT WE SHOULD JUST DO FOR THE NEXT MEETING? SURE.

SO WE HAVE A, UM, LET'S SEE, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE THIRD PARTY CONSIDERATIONS AND RUNNING LMS OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM.

UM, THAT'S ONE ITEM.

ANOTHER WAS, UM, UH, THE FEASIBILITY OF AEDC AND ADMINISTERING THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

AND THE THIRD ONE WAS TABLING, UM, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT WORKING GROUPS TO THE NEXT MEETING.

SO ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD FOR THE NEXT AGENDA? I'D LIKE TO ADD AN ITEM ABOUT COVID PRECAUTIONS AT VENUES, SO DISCUSSION ABOUT, OKAY.

UM, ANYWAY, I'M JUST GOING TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE, THERE YOU CAN, UH, AND AGENDA ITEMS, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT MONTH.

WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, OF COURSE NOT TO OVERSTEP THE AGENDA, BUT NONETHELESS, JUST BECAUSE IT WASN'T, ESPECIALLY FOR THE NEWER FOLKS, IF IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP HERE, WE HAVE TO GET A SECOND.

AND THEN, UH, THEN EMAIL, USUALLY SHAKA, UH, AND CHARLOTTE, AND THEN CAME ON THE STAFF SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GET IT ON THE AGENDA.

UM, WELL THAT, UH, I'M GOING TO MOTION TO ADJOURN SECOND.