* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.
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          ORDER. 
          UM, THIS IS THE MEETING OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
COMMITTEE. 
          IT IS 10 11 WE'RE MEETING VIRTUALLY, AND I'M JOINED BY CHAIR FONTAS AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM HARPER MEDICINE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          PRESENT TODAY. 
          WELCOME. 
          WELCOME SPEAKER. 
          NUMBER ONE. 
          [Citizen Communication: General]
DID YOU EVER MEET, AM I THE NEXT TO THE SPEAKER THAT YOU'RE TALKING TO? UM, I THINK I, MAYBE, YES, I, I INDEED IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF, UM, AND, UH, AND THEN YOU WILL BE PROVIDED WITH THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          MY NAME IS JOE  AND I'M THE CEO OF THE LATINO HEALTHCARE FORUM, A LOCAL NONPROFIT BASED IN MINNEAPOLIS. 
          WE ARE HERE IN SUPPORTIVE ALEC WEDNESDAYS AND THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION TESTIMONY AND INITIATIVE THAT WOULD PROVIDE AND OFFER FAMILIES AND PARENTS THAT CHOICE OF WATER OR UNFLAVORED DRINKS AT LOCAL RESTAURANTS. 
          THE LATINO HEALTHCARE FORUM HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 2010. 
          OUR VERY FIRST PROJECT THOUGH, WAS SUGARY DRINKS. 
          IT WAS CALLED , WHICH MEANS FOUNTAIN HEALTH. 
          AND THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND EDUCATION TO FAMILIES. 
          I RUN THE EASTERN CRESCENT ABOUT SUGARY DRINKS AND, UH, HOW THE IMPACT OF OBESITY. 
          WE WERE ACTUALLY FUNDED THROUGH, UH, OBAMA. 
          I WAS MICHELLE OBAMA'S ANTI-OBESITY PROGRAMS. SO WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA LEFT, UH, WE LOST OUR FUNDING, UM, AND WE WERE JUST ELATED AND WE JUMPED AT THE CHANCE WHEN AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION REACHED OUT TO US AND ASKED IF WE WOULD HELP THEM CONTINUE WITH OUR PR CAMPAIGN. 
          WE HAVE DEVELOPED A PROGRAM CALLED , WHICH TRANSLATES IS JUST SERVING OUR KIDS BETTER. 
          WE KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT BECAUSE OF COVID FAMILIES ARE REALLY TUNED UP INTO HEALTH AND THEY WANT TO RESET HOW THEY OFFER BETTER CHOICES FOR THEIR KIDS. 
          AND SO, IN FACT, WE KNOW THEM, AS HE KNOWS, UH, HAVE HAD THE HIGHEST IMPACT WITH COVID. 
          WE LOST THREE YEARS OF LIFE EXPECTANCY, AND A LOT OF FAMILIES HAVE REACHED OUT TO US AND ASKED THEM, HOW CAN WE DO BETTER BY OUR KIDS? AND SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS INITIATIVE WILL BE SPEAKS TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER CHOICES FOR BETTER, UH, BEVERAGES AND RESTAURANTS. 
          AND SO WE ARE HERE, UH, IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION AS INITIATIVE AND FOR YOU ALL TO HELP US BECOME HEALTHIER AND HAVE A HEALTHIER WORLD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY WITH US AND FOR THAT TESTIMONY. 
          OKAY. 
          I BELIEVE OUR NEXT SPEAKER'S NAME IS ALEX. 
          ALEX, IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE. 
          YES. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          UM, GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME IS ALEC . 
          I AM THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT RELATIONS DIRECTOR AT THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION. 
          THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION IS COMMITTED TO IMPROVING THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY BY EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ABOUT HEALTHY LIVING, FOSTERING IMPROVEMENTS IN CARE AND FIGHTING FOR STRONG PUBLIC HEALTH POLICIES. 
          UM, AS JILL MENTIONED, THE ONGOING PANDEMIC HAS HIGHLIGHTED INEQUITIES IN THE AUSTIN AREA, PARTICULARLY IN THE ISSUE OF NUTRITION ACCESS. 
          ACCORDING TO THE AHJS COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT, OUR REGION HAS HIGHER RATES THAN BOTH STATE AND NATIONAL AVERAGES FOR A LACK OF HEALTHY FOOD ACCESS ACROSS ALL ETHNICITIES. 
          AND THAT'S DEFINED AS LIVING MORE THAN A HALF MILE FROM THE CLOSEST SUPERMARKET OR LARGE GROCERY STORE WHILE THAT NEED IS BEING RECOGNIZED AND PLANNING EFFORTS AND BUDGET DISCUSSIONS. 
          IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE TO OFFER HEALTHY CHOICES. 
          AND WE KNOW THAT WHEN LIFE GETS BUSY, WE OFTEN TURN TO RESTAURANTS AND DRIVE-THROUGHS TO FEED OUR FAMILY. 
          UH, CHILDREN NOW CONSUME ROUGHLY 25% OF THEIR CALORIES EATING OUT AND ABOUT 40% OF CHILDREN AGED TWO TO NINE WILL EAT FAST FOOD OR IN ANY GIVEN DAY, THOSE MEALS OFTEN INCLUDE A HIGH CALORIE SUGARY DRINK, WHICH IS PART OF WHY CHILDREN CONSUME ALMOST TWICE AS MANY CALORIES WHEN THEY EAT OUT OR DRIVE THROUGH A RESTAURANT. 
          THESE DRINKS ARE ONE OF THE TOP SOURCES OF ADDED SUGAR IN OUR CHILDREN'S DIETS. 
          AND CHILDREN NOW CONSUME MORE THAN 30 GALLONS A YEAR OF THEM, WHICH IS ENOUGH TO FILL A BATHTUB. 
          THESE PROBLEMS ARE MORE SERIOUS AND LOW-INCOME IN MINORITY COMMUNITIES WHERE CHILDREN ARE MORE LIKELY TO HAVE CONVENIENCE STORES AND FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS LOCATED NEARBY, AND MUCH MORE LIKELY TO HAVE THOSE CENTERINGS MARKETED DIRECTLY TO THEM WHILE EATING OUT IS SOMETIMES A NECESSITY. 
          IT PREVENTS, IT PRESENTS A RESPONSIBILITY TO SERVE OUR KIDS BETTER, MAKING KIDS' MEALS HEALTHIER CAN CULTIVATE LONG TIME HEALTHY BEHAVIORS FOR CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY THOSE FOR LOW-INCOME AND MINORITY FAMILIES. 
          WE CAN ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM WHILE PRESERVING CHOICE BY MAKING THE DEFAULT DRINK, OPERATING KIDS' MEALS, WATER JUICE, OR UNFLAVORED MILK. 
          INSTEAD OF THE HIGH CALORIE HIGH 
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SUGAR BEVERAGE, PARENTS WOULD STILL HAVE THE CHOICE TO OFFER A SUGARY DRINK FOR THEIR CHILD, BUT THIS POLICY WOULD MAKE THE DEFAULT CHOICE, A HEALTHY ONE, AND ITS CHOICE. 
          PARENTS ARE LIKELY TO STICK WITH MORE THAN TWO THIRDS OF THE TIME. 
          THIS APPROACH APPROVED IN PLACES LIKE COLUMBUS, OHIO, TOLEDO, OHIO, AND SANTA CLARA COUNTY, CALIFORNIA IS MEANT TO SUPPORT FAMILIES, LOOKING FOR HEALTHY OPTIONS AND IS NOT INTENT TO LEGISLATE OR RESTAURANT SERVE SUCH A POLICY WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR PARENTS TO ESTABLISH HEALTHY HABITS WHEN DINING OUT OR DRIVING THROUGH. 
          AND IT WOULD PUT OUR CHILDREN ON THE BEST FOOTING FOR A HEALTHY AND SUCCESSFUL FUTURE TOGETHER WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS LIKE LATINO HEALTHCARE FORUM, WE'LL BE URGING THE COUNCIL TO GIVE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO THIS APPROACH IN THE COMING WEEKS AND MONTHS. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ALL YOUR HARD WORK FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT IF WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR PROVIDE ANY MORE INFORMATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I APPRECIATE IT AND SORRY, AGAIN FOR THE CONFUSION. 
          I KNOW YOU WERE WILLING TO CALL BACK LATER AND I'M SO GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HEAR YOUR TESTIMONY AT THE BEGINNING. 
          UM, I WANTED TO ASK YOU IF YOU WOULD, IF TO, TO CONSIDER PROVIDING YOUR TESTIMONY IN WRITTEN FORM, UM, THERE WERE SOME STATISTICS THAT YOU INCLUDED WITHIN YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF CHILDREN EATING MOST OF THEIR MEALS OR A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THEIR MEALS AT FAST FOOD AND SOME OTHER STATISTICS THAT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, TO ACTUALLY READ AND REFER BACK TO. 
          AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO ALSO GET THAT INFORMATION TO OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO AREN'T HERE. 
          SO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SEND THAT ON, UH, THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          I WILL SEND HER TESTIMONY AND THAT, AND THAT, UH, THAT BACKGROUND INFORMATION AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH COLLEAGUES, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR SPEAKERS? UM, MAYOR PUTIN, THAT QUESTION IS JUST A GREAT DEAL OF APPRECIATION AND SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO ADD TO, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT, UH, OUR LAST PRESENTER PROVIDED, UH, IS IT IS REALLY EXPENSIVE TO BE POOR. 
          UM, PEOPLE HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, PURCHASE THOSE MEALS, THOSE FAST FOOD MEALS, IT'S NOT ECONOMICAL AND PEOPLE HAVING TO PURCHASE THOSE MEALS FROM GAS STATIONS. 
          IT'S NOT ECONOMICAL, AND I'M NOT EVEN JUST TALKING ABOUT FOOD, LIKE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE. 
          UM, I, WAY OF POVERTY IS SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE. 
          AND SO I'D LOVE VERY MUCH FOR US TO, AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, UM, LOVE VERY MUCH FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION LIKE THE TRUE IMPACT FINANCIAL IMPACT OF HAVING A, TO GET FAST FOOD MEALS AND HAVING TO BUY THINGS THAT COSTS 19 TIMES MORE AT THE CONVENIENCE STORE. 
          THAT'S ABOUT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          EXCELLENT POINTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, CHAIR FONTUS THANK YOU. 
          AND JUST WANTED TO SEND MY APPRECIATION AND GRATITUDE TO THE LATINO HEALTHCARE FORUM AND TO AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION FOR PRESENTING TODAY AND PUTTING ATTENTION ON THE NEEDS TO MAKE THE HEALTHIER CHOICE, THE EASIER CHOICE, AND CERTAINLY HAVING, UM, WATER OR, UM, YOU KNOW, 100% JUICE DRINKS AS THE DEFAULT OPTION ON, ON MENUS WILL GO A LONG WAY AND MAKING IT THE EASIER CHOICE. 
          AND I CERTAINLY AM SUPPORTIVE OF THOSE TYPES OF INITIATIVES. 
          AND, UM, AS CHAIR TOBO MENTIONED WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TESTIMONY AND WRITING. 
          UM, AND OF COURSE, WE'D WELCOME A MEETING WITH YOU ALL TO FURTHER DISCUSS THIS POLICY INITIATIVE SO MUCH. 
          AND THAT'S A GREAT SEGUE TO MY CORRECTING MYSELF. 
          UM, I KNOW, UH, SENIOR POLICY ADVISOR, ASHLEY RICHARDSON ON MY STAFF HAS ACTUALLY MET WITH YOU AND HAS, UM, PROVIDED ME WITH SOME OF THIS INFORMATION BEFORE. 
          SO I APOLOGIZE FOR, OR I'M NOT INDICATING THAT UPFRONT. 
          I DO STILL THINK YOUR TESTIMONY WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          SO IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD SEND THAT ALONG, WE'LL PUT THAT ALONGSIDE SOME OF THE INFORMATION YOU'VE ALREADY PROVIDED MY OFFICE WITH. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR FLEXIBILITY HERE TODAY. 
          WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET'S ON AND TAKE UP OUR MINUTES. 
          [Approval of Minutes]
HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY'S HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THEM. 
          AND SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE VICE CHAIR. 
          FONTUS MOVES APPROVAL, MAYOR PRO TEM SECONDS, THAT ALL IN FAVOR THAT IS UNANIMOUS ON THE DYESS WITH COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN AND MAYOR ADLER OFF THE DIOCESE. 
          SO TIM, WE ARE SCHEDULED TO, UM, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA. 
          WHAT IS AN EXAM POSSIBLE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE PROCESS OF SELECTING THE CITY'S APPOINTEE? I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE NOT DO THIS RIGHT NOW. 
          WE DON'T YET HAVE A FULL POOL OF APPLICANTS FOR THAT POSITION. 
          AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE TABLE THAT LESS. 
          ANYONE HAS A CONCERN. 
          I WOULD SUGGEST WE TABLE THAT ITEM NUMBER THREE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          ANY THOUGHTS? OKAY. 
          UM, MAYBE PRESSURE I'M I CAN'T TELL IF YOU WERE GIVING ME A THUMBS UP 
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OR, OR OKAY. 
          SUPER. 
          I CAN TELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, LET ME JUST PUT A CALL OUT TO INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE SOBERING CENTER. 
          THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          THAT'S AN AMAZING RESOURCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD LOTS OF, LOTS OF INTEREST AND LOTS OF APPLICANTS. 
          AND SO I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WOULD ASK OUR CITY, OUR LIAISON TO THIS COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO TO GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH SOME OF THOSE APPLICANTS WHO HAVE APPLIED IN EARLIER CYCLES TO ASK THEM ABOUT THEIR CONTINUED INTEREST, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          AND IF I MAY, IF, IF MAYBE IF WE COULD GIVE A, A CLEARER, UH, SORT OF SENSE OF EXPECTATION AROUND WHAT DOES IT REQUIRE, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE ASKING OF PEOPLE? I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY TO GET OFF OF PEOPLE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THIS WORKS FOR THEIR LIVES. 
          SURE. 
          AND ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE TALK ABOUT THAT A BIT HERE TODAY OR MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN THE INFORMATION OR BOTH? I I'D SAY, UH, WE COULD, WE COULD DO BOTH OR WE COULD JUST ADD IT FOR, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF FUTURE ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION. 
          UM, IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, JUST BE LAY IT PLAIN, BE VERY EXPLICIT, LIKE WHAT IS REQUIRED AS A RESULT OF, YOU KNOW, TAKING THIS REALLY AWESOME OPPORTUNITY. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AND I THINK THE BEST, UM, THE BEST PROCESS FOR TODAY WOULD BE US FOR US TO PROVIDE DIRECTION WITH REGARD TO THE APPLICATIONS FOR US TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO OUR CITY STAFF, TO GO BACK TO PREVIOUS APPLICANTS, APPLICANTS, AND PREVIOUS CYCLES, AS WELL AS APPLICANTS IN THE COUNTY, TRAVIS COUNTIES CYCLES, UM, TO, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE IS ANOTHER SPOT AND TO DETERMINE THEIR INTEREST AND IF IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE THEM REAPPLY. 
          SO I SERVED ON THE SOBERING CENTER BOARD SINCE ITS INCEPTION AND IT, I WILL SAY IT IS A VERY SMALL BOARD IN THE PAST. 
          IT HAS, UM, WE HAVE TRIED TO ENSURE BOTH THE TRAVIS COUNTY AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN MAKES APPOINTMENTS TO IT. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF JOINT POSITIONS AND WE HAVE TRIED TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO SERVE ON THE BOARD HAVE, UM, A MIX OF SOME OF THE FOLLOWING KINDS OF EXPERTISE, LIVED EXPERIENCE, UH, MEDICAL BACKGROUNDS, LEGAL BACKGROUND, OR OTHER KINDS OF COMMUNITY WORK THAT MAKE THAT IS VERY ALIGNED WITH THE MISSION OF THE SOBERING CENTER. 
          AND SO IT IS A VERY SMALL BOARD. 
          IT IS A WORKING BOARD, UM, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY EARLY IN, IN THE SOBERING CENTERS, INCEPTION FOUNDING, UH, THAT BOARD IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE HAVE HIRED, UM, WE'VE MADE HIRING DECISIONS IN TERMS OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. 
          WE'VE CREATED A STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, BUT IT'S STILL VERY MUCH IN THE EARLY STAGES. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS, IS EXPECTED TO COME TO A MONTHLY MEETING. 
          AND EVERY, EVERY MEMBER OF THE BOARD ALSO SERVES ON AT LEAST ONE COMMITTEE. 
          AND THOSE REALLY ARE WORKING COMMITTEES FROM A DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO A GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, TO SOME OF THE OTHER COMMITTEES THAT HAVE BEEN FORMED. 
          UM, SO IT IS, IT IS EXCITING WORK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT TO BE DONE AND THESE EARLY YEARS, ESPECIALLY ARE VERY IMPORTANT, BUT IT IS, UH, IT IS A BOARD THAT REQUIRES A CERTAIN COMMIT, A CERTAIN LEVEL OF COMMITMENT. 
          AND, AND THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THE ATTENDANCE WILL BE REGULAR. 
          IT'S VERY HARD FOR SUCH A SMALL BOARD. 
          IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING IF PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE THOSE MONTHLY MEETINGS, IT DOES BECOME CHALLENGING. 
          AND, AND THE SAME WITH THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS, BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE ARE, ARE VERY AIMED AT, UH, TASKS THAT NEED TO BE ACCOMPLISHED. 
          BUT IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S AN AMAZING RESOURCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND REALLY IS SUCCEEDING IN HUGE PART BECAUSE OF, OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE STEPPED UP TO SERVE ON THE BOARD. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TALK A BIT MORE ABOUT IT. 
          WELCOME AND YOUR ADLER. 
          SO GRANT, LET'S TAKE THIS UP AGAIN NEXT NEXT MONTH. 
          UM, I HAVE LEARNED IN THE COURSE OF THIS CONVERSATION THAT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE IS REACHING OUT TO FORMER APPLICANTS, UM, AT THE CITY AND TRAVIS COUNTY. 
          SO THAT'S HAPPENING AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, AT OUR NEXT MEETING ABOUT THE APPLICANTS WE'VE RECEIVED. 
          WE MAY ALSO NEED TO DO A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING TO DO, TO DO THAT KIND OF WORK OF IDENTIFYING THEM AND THEN, AND THEN SCHEDULE THOSE INTERVIEWS. 
          SO, ALL RIGHT, SUPER WELL, LET'S GO ON TO 
          [2. Briefing on issues related to homelessness]
OUR NEXT AND, AND ONLY REMAINING ITEM, WHICH IS NUMBER TWO, AND THIS IS THE BRIEFING ON ISSUES RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS. 
          SO COMMITTEE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT REALLY FOCUSING THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE ON A COUPLE OF KEY AREAS, UH, AND ONE OF THEM FOR THIS YEAR BEING HOMELESSNESS. 
          NOW, WHEN WE SCHEDULED TODAY'S BRIEFING, WE DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WOULD ALSO BE A BRIEFING AT THE FULL COUNCIL MEETING. 
          SO WE'LL TRY TO BE TARGETED IN OUR APPROACH TODAY. 
          UM, SINCE WE'RE TAKING THIS, WE'RE TAKING UP THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS AND RELATIONSHIP TO THE BUDGET TOMORROW, UM, TODAY'S PRESENTATION, AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS A BIT IS A BIT MORE FOCUSED AND A BIT DIFFERENT. 
          SO HOPEFULLY THERE WILL NOT BE MUCH OVERLAP, BUT, UM, 
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I WILL INVITE OUR STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE PRESENTING THIS TO, TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM HERE. 
          AND WHILE THEY'RE GETTING ORGANIZED AND READY FOR THAT PRESENTATION, LET ME JUST THANK THEM. 
          I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING, THEY'RE WORKING, THEY ARE A SMALL, BUT MIGHTY TEAM WORKING ON, ON MULTIPLE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN PROGRESS THIS WEEK. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 
          WE'LL TRY TO BE REALLY EFFICIENT WITH YOUR TIME KNOWING THAT YOU ARE, ARE BACK BEFORE THE FULL COUNCIL AGAIN TOMORROW. 
          WELCOME DIANE CHAIR. 
          UM, UH, AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO ECHO, UM, THE, THE, THE HARD, HARD WORK IS BEING DONE BY, UM, BY OUR TEAM AND, UH, I JUST A CARMEN CHARLES LOOSEN, UM, RIGHT. 
          MCCORMICK AND TRAIN NICHOLS ARE, UM, ARE IN THE THICK OF IT. 
          NOW I'LL DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT MORE SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES OF THIS WEEK, BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE, THE, UH, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK THEY'RE DOING THIS WEEK. 
          SO I DID THINK TODAY I WILL BE GIVING JUST, UM, I THINK A VERBAL BRIEFING TODAY, UH, FOCUSED ON KEEL, UM, A LITTLE BIT ON SHELTER AND, UH, DESIGNATED ENCAMPMENT, AND THEN SOME OTHER UPDATES. 
          UM, WE'LL TOUCH ON PROTECTIVE LODGES AND A LITTLE BIT ON, UM, ON FUNDING, UH, RE IN TERMS, UH, FRAMES BY THE SIX AND A HALF MILLION OF ADDITIONAL GF DOLLARS THAT WERE IN THE FISCAL YEAR 21 BUDGET FOR, UH, FOR HSD AND HOMELESS SERVICES. 
          BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I DO ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO START WITH SOME GOOD NEWS, WHICH IS JUST A REMINDER OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE ARE MAKING. 
          UH, WE CLOSED, UM, ON MONDAY, UH, THE ACQUISITION OF THE TEXAS BUNGALOWS HOTEL, WHICH WILL, UH, BE, BECOME, UH, ABOUT 60 UNITS OF PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. 
          AND SO A LONG TIME COMING. 
          AND CLEARLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT FROM A CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT AND HOUSING AND PLANNING, BUT WE ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, OF, UH, COMPLETING THEN CONTRACTING PROCESS FOR THE SERVICES THAT WILL BE PROVIDED ONSITE BY INTEGRAL CARE, WHO WILL BE THE OPERATOR AND SERVICE PROVIDER. 
          SO ROBUST WRAPAROUND SERVICES, UM, UM, UNDERWAY THERE. 
          COUNCIL HAS ALREADY AUTHORIZED THAT CONTRACT. 
          AND SO WE HOPE TO EXECUTE IT FAIRLY SOON. 
          I WILL BE LOOKING TO NAIL DOWN WHAT WE HOPE WILL BE A, A PRETTY COMPRESSED RENOVATION, UM, TIMELINE, UH, AND, UM, ARE LOOKING FORWARD IN THE NOT SO DISTANT FUTURE TO A GRAND OPENING THERE, WHICH I THINK WILL BE A FANTASTIC DAY. 
          UH, WE ALSO, UH, THERE IS A GROUNDBREAKING ON AUGUST NIGHT FOR A SPARROW AT RUTLAND, WHICH IS CARA TOSSES, 171 UNIT NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, UM, UH, FOR THE WILL BE, UH, SET ASIDE LARGELY FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. 
          UH, SO WE DO HAVE THOSE UNITS IN, UH, IN THE PIPELINE AND AGAIN, A CRITICAL USE OF THAT SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN THE, IN THE GENERAL OPERATING BUDGET HAS BEEN TO SUPPORT THE ROBUST SERVICES THAT ARE NEEDED ONSITE THERE. 
          I WILL TELL YOU ALSO THAT YESTERDAY, NO, TODAY IS WEDNESDAY ON MONDAY. 
          UM, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT THE, WHAT USED TO BE THE MEMBERSHIP COUNCIL AT ECHO, SORT OF THE GOVERNING BOARD OF THE CONTINUUM OF CARE HAS RECENTLY BEEN REFORMULATED REDESIGNED, UH, TO HAVE A MUCH STRONGER EMPHASIS ON EQUITY ON IT AND ON THE, UM, REPRESENTATION AND ACTIVE PARTICIPATION OF PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE. 
          AND SO I'VE THE HONOR OF SITTING ON THAT COUNCIL, UH, WE'VE MET NOW THREE OR FOUR TIMES. 
          UM, I I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT OUT OF 13 PEOPLE, WE HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE. 
          UH, I BELIEVE FIVE OF THE 13 ARE AFRICAN-AMERICAN, WHICH WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT GIVEN THE OVER REPRESENTATION, UM, AMONG PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, UM, UH, IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. 
          ONE OF THE FIRST ACTIONS THAT THAT COUNCIL HAS TAKEN AS OF MONDAY, WAS TO APPROVE A REVISE PRIORITIZATION TOOL FOR THE COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM. 
          SO, UM, THE COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM IS, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COORDINATED ASSESSMENT FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS HOUSING THROUGH THE SYSTEM, UM, THERE IS A, A COMMON ASSESSMENT, WHICH I THINK, UM, OVERALL HAS BEEN VERY POSITIVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF EFFICIENCY AND IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY REFERRING PEOPLE TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE CAPACITY. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS, NOT JUST HERE IN AUSTIN, BUT ACROSS THE NATION, WAS THAT ONE OF THE TOOLS THAT MANY COMMUNITIES INCLUDING OURS WAS USING, UM, APPEARED TO HAVE SOME NET POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS AROUND EQUITY, THAT AFRICAN-AMERICANS WERE LARGELY SCORING LOWER, UH, ON THIS ASSESSMENT. 
          AND THEREFORE WE'RE NOT RISING TO THE TOP IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZATION FOR HOUSING PLACEMENT, THUS SORT OF REINFORCING, UH, ALREADY SORT OF REPRESENTATION IN TERMS OF PEOPLE 
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THAT EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS. 
          AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE WILL, UM, OBVIOUSLY BE WATCHING THIS CLOSELY IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PHASE, BUT THE EQUITY WORK GROUP, UM, OF THE WHOLE, OF THE FORMER MEMBERSHIP COUNCIL. 
          NOW, THE HOMELESS RESPONSE LEADERSHIP COUNCIL SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UH, ASSESSING, UM, WHAT, HOW THAT ASSESSMENT COULD BE ADJUSTED AND CHANGED AND DOING SOME STATISTICAL ANALYSIS. 
          AND SO I'M JUST REALLY HOPEFUL GOING FORWARD THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT REALLY CONCRETE TOOLS, PERHAPS NOT THE SEXIEST PIECES OF OUR SYSTEM, BUT REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL ELEMENTS OF HOW PEOPLE ACTUALLY ACCESS HOUSING THAT WE ARE IMPROVING, UM, IMPROVING OUR PERFORMANCE ON IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO HAVING, UH, GIVEN THOSE QUICK UPDATES, I THINK, UH, THE THREE THINGS I THOUGHT I WOULD, UH, TALK ABOUT TODAY AND IN THIS ORDER WERE KEEL, UH, SHELTER AND SANCTION AND CAMP MINTS, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, AND THEN PRO LODGES, BUT WANT TO, UH, CHECK IN WITH THE CHAIR AND THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR PRIORITIES. 
          SO, UM, NUMBER ONE, THANK YOU. 
          AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THOSE REALLY IMPORTANT STEPS FROM TEXAS BUNGALOWS AND I, AND IT'S WONDERFUL TO HEAR A SPARROW AT RUTLAND IS GETTING STARTED. 
          THOSE ARE BOTH GREAT PIECES OF NEWS. 
          SO AS I UNDERSTAND KEEL AND SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENT, AND WHAT WAS THE NEXT ITEM THAT YOU HAD INTENDED BRIEF CONVERSATION ON PRO LODGES, BUT THAT'LL BE VERY, UM, I THINK LINKS TO THE OTHER ONES AS WELL. 
          AND SO THERE'S ONE OTHER ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ADDRESS, BUT PERHAPS IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO TABLE IT FOR TOMORROW. 
          SO MAYBE WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, INFORMATION THAT I THINK WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE AND WITH THE INTENTION OF TALKING ABOUT IT TOMORROW. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE A QUICK UPDATE ON TODAY? UM, YES. 
          VICE CHAIR. 
          FONTAS THANK YOU. 
          UH, YEAH, I THINK THOSE THREE ITEMS ARE PRETTY BIG AND WEIGHTY IN AND OF ITSELF. 
          AND THAT CERTAINLY, I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE THIS TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL. 
          I, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT US BEING ABLE TO HAVE A ROBUST CONVERSATION TOMORROW ON THE DIAS AROUND HOMELESSNESS? BECAUSE THESE THREE TOPICS WE'LL NEED TO HAVE A FULL CONVERSATION WITH THE DIOCESE ON, IN ADDITION TO THE CONVERSATION REGARDING THE BUDGET AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO ALLOCATE THE PORTION, UM, TOWARDS HOME, UH, REDUCING HOMELESSNESS AND, UM, AND SO, AND COLLEAGUES, AS YOU ALL KNOW, I THINK THERE'S AT LEAST A FEW BUDGET ITEMS FROM YESTERDAY THAT WE'RE CARRYING OVER TO THURSDAY, UM, IN ADDITION TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          AND SO, UM, JUST, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT FOR OUR COMMUNITY, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, I CONTINUE TO THINK THAT WE NEED A DEDICATED SESSION TOWARDS DISCUSSING OUR RESPONSE FOR HOMELESSNESS AND ONE WHERE OUR COMMUNITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT AND FEEDBACK. 
          UM, AND I CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, JUST WITH THE, WITH THE PENDING DEADLINES OF HAVING, UM, THE, THE DEADLINE ON OUR, THE CITY MANAGER'S PHASED IMPLEMENTATION APPROACH, UM, TO RESPONDING TO THE REINSTATEMENT OF THE CAMPING BAN AND THEN OF COURSE WITH THE STATE-WIDE CAMPING BAN COMING INTO EFFECT SEPTEMBER 1ST. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MS. GRAY, IS THAT, UH, IS IT, LET ME ASK YOU TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. 
          I UNDERSTAND FROM MY CONVERSATION WITH THE MANAGER, JUST RIGHT BEFORE WE POPPED ON THIS MEETING, THAT, UH, PART OF TOMORROW, PART OF YOUR CONVERSATION WITH OUR FULL COUNCIL TOMORROW INVOLVES SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT TRUE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO, IS IT BEST IF WE TRY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TOMORROW VERSUS, UM, HERE TODAY? SO, UM, I AM PREPARED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION TODAY OR TOMORROW. 
          I WILL SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT SEPARATE AGENDA ITEMS ON, UH, ON THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW, THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL REALLY BE COUNCIL DIRECTED, UH, AS THEY RELATE TO THE ITEM THAT IS ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE BUDGET BRIEFING. 
          AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT EXPLICITLY SET ASIDE, BUT I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT, UM, HAS BEEN THE, THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. 
          UM, IT MAY BE, I ACTUALLY THINK IT MIGHT BE EASIEST TO TALK ABOUT IT TO SOME DEGREE TODAY AS WELL, BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE ABLE TO FURTHER FOCUS OUR TIME TOMORROW KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE A PACKED AGENDA. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, UM, WITH THE SUGGESTION FROM OUR VICE CHAIR, OR DO YOU, ARE YOU PREPARED TO SPEAK A BIT TO THE PROPERTY ENFORCEMENT? UM, SO I WILL CERTAINLY, I THINK THAT IF WE WANT DETAILS ABOUT ENFORCEMENT, ALWAYS, WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE APD PRESENCE SINCE THEY ARE A CHARGED WITH ENFORCEMENT. 
          WHAT I WOULD BE SPEAKING TO TODAY IS REALLY THE PUBLIC HEALTH RESPONSE IN TERMS OF TRYING TO ALIGN THE RESOURCES AND 
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WHERE WE ARE ON THAT FRONT. 
          UM, SO IF YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT I CAN ADVOCATE CERTAINLY ANSWER, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE ON ENFORCEMENT AND, AND AM IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE FOLKS, BUT JUST KNOW THAT SIR PREPARATION TODAY HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE. 
          THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, LET'S, UM, LET'S DO BEGIN THEN. 
          THANKS. 
          AND WE'LL START WITH, WITH WHAT YOU, SO LET'S START WITH HEALING, THE SANCTION ENCAMPMENT. 
          WELL,  HAS HER HAND RAISED, OH, I MISSED THAT MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UH, DIRECTOR GRAY AND ALSO, UH, CHAIR, UH, I, I CONTINUE TO HAVE GREAT, GREAT CONCERN ABOUT WHAT FEELS LIKE TO ME, A LACK OF CONVERSATION AROUND MENTAL HEALTH, UM, AS WE ARE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, UM, NOT JUST GENERALLY, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, A REAL BROAD SPECTRUM. 
          WHAT, WHERE, WHERE ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO GO? WHAT LEVEL OF CARE DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE? WHAT LEVELS OF CARE DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE? AND I MEAN, FROM LIKE OUR ABILITY TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE STATE AROUND MEDICAL POWER OF ATTORNEY, FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND PEOPLE WHO JUST, YOU KNOW, LET'S CALL THEM DOUBLE FIVE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN WE NEED TO GO TO GROUP AND TAKE MEDS AND THAT'S IT, RIGHT? IT'S A INTENSIVE OUTPATIENT, BUT I, I CONTINUE TO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN ABOUT WHAT FEELS LIKE A SIGNIFICANT OF EMPHASIS IN ALL OUR CONVERSATIONS AROUND A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN BECOMING THE FIRST CITY IN THE NATION TO REALLY GET A GRIP ON UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS. 
          I JUST, I THINK THERE'S NO CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE THAT DOESN'T START WITH THAT PART. 
          AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A NECESSARY PART OF THE CONVERSATION TODAY, MAYBE IT'S TOMORROW, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, I, I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS AROUND OUR NOT DISCUSSING THAT MORE INTENSIVELY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, REALLY IMPORTANT COMMENT. 
          UH, ONE OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT I INTEND TO MAKE IS TO ADD FUNDING TO THE HEALTH, THE HEALTHCARE FOR THE HOMELESS PROGRAM THAT WE CO-SPONSORED WITH THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE. 
          SO CERTAINLY TOMORROW IN THE CONTEXT OF THE BUDGET. 
          UM, BUT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE THAT IS IT'S REALLY CRITICAL FOR ALL THE REASONS YOU JUST SAID, UH, MAYOR PRETEND. 
          AND IF I MAY JUST REAL QUICK, YOU KNOW, UM, EVEN JUST TALKING TO SOME OF OUR, UH, ADVOCATES AROUND HAVING ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, UM, IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL MENTAL HEALTH OPTION, IF THERE'S LITERALLY NO PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO, IF YOU JUST TAKEN THEM TO THE TRIAGE AT THE ER, AND THEN THEY WANDER AROUND IN HOSPITAL GOWNS. 
          I MEAN, UH, JUST, I MEAN, I CAN'T PUT ENOUGH EMPHASIS ON HOW CONCERNED I AM. 
          THANK YOU THOUGH. 
          VALID CONCERNS, VICE CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, MAYOR PRO TEM JUST WANTED TO ECHO YOUR SENTIMENT AND ALSO ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH, UM, OTHER PARTNERS AT THE TABLE AS WELL WITH INTEGRAL CARE CENTRAL HEALTH, WHO ALSO HAVE A ROLE IN THE CONTINUUM CARE CONTINUUM OF CARE, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND A MENTAL HEALTH RESPONSE. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO SEE THEM INVOLVED AND PART OF THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT CANNOT SIMPLY ONLY JUST BE CITY OF AUSTIN. 
          WE NEED OUR PARTNERS, THEY ARE WITH US AND TALKING THROUGH, OKAY, WHAT DOES THAT COORDINATE A SYSTEM OF CARE LOOK LIKE IN OUR RESPONSE TO ADDRESSING AND REDUCING HOMELESSNESS? YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT FITS IN TODAY'S CONVERSATION OR POTENTIALLY TOMORROW EITHER, BUT, BUT MANY OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE INVOLVED. 
          CERTAINLY THE PAY FOR SUCCESS INITIATIVE HAD COMMUNITY HEALTH. 
          UM, I'M SORRY, COMMUNITY CARE, INTEGRAL CARE. 
          OTHER, ALL OF THOSE PARTNERS ARE INVOLVED IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          UM, BUT IT MAY BE A GOOD THING TO GET A BRIEFING ABOUT HOW THOSE CONTINUE, BUT, YOU KNOW, OAK SPRINGS TERRORISTS, FOR EXAMPLE, IT WAS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN INTEGRAL CARE OR THE CITY OF BOSTON AND, AND, UM, OTHER PARTNERS. 
          YES, MAYOR, I THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, AND I THINK THAT THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT REALLY IS NOT BEEN CALLED OUT AS, AS MUCH AS IT NEEDS TO, UH, BECAUSE AS YOU SAY, UM, GASPAROTTO, IT IS, UH, IT IS A SIGNIFICANT COMPONENT OF THE, 
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OF THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND HOW THAT WORKS. 
          SO AT SOME POINT, IF, IF, IF DYADIC COULD TALK ABOUT, UH, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THAT A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE A HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS THERE WAS IDENTIFIED IN, UH, ARPA, UH, EVEN USED WITH, UH, UH, 3000 GOOD IN THREE-YEAR GOAL, UH, WOULD BE SPED TOWARD, UH, UH, BETTER HEALTH SUPPORT AND INTERVENTION. 
          UH, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT IN A WAY THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN SEE. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO SPEAKING OF PLACES, UM, PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO GO AND THE NEED FOR THEM, UM, MS. GRAY, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WOULD BRIEF US ON WHERE WE ARE WITH DEAL AND THE SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENT CONVERSATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, AND, AND I WILL SAY I, UM, AS WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY, I WILL SPEAK TO THE ELEMENTS OF IT THAT RELATE TO, UH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH, UM, AND SUBSTANCE USE DISORDERS WITHIN THE SUMMIT PLAN. 
          NOT ONLY DO WE, YOU KNOW, KNOW THAT THE RAPID REHOUSING, THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, ET CETERA, ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF PEOPLE WITH CHRONIC MENTAL ILLNESS OR CHRONIC MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS. 
          BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT I AM HEARING MAYOR PRO TEM SAY AGAIN AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVEN'T FULLY, UM, WRAPPED OUR ARMS AROUND IS WHAT ABOUT THOSE, PARTICULARLY THOSE OF CRISIS, UH, SERVICES, UH, FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, WHAT IS NOT ABOUT WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY STABILIZED IN HOUSING? THE SUMMIT PLAN DOES HAVE SEPARATE RESOURCES THAT ARE SET ASIDE FOR THOSE SORT OF ANCILLARY SHORING UP SOME PIECES OF THAT. 
          ALSO CONTINUUM OF CARE, IF YOU WILL, A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES. 
          AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONVENING AROUND THAT, UH, EVEN AS THAT IS PULLING TOGETHER A WORK GROUP, UM, TOGETHER WITH ECHO AND ALL THE PROVIDERS THAT YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND FRANKLY, A LOT WHO HAVEN'T BEEN, YOU KNOW, WHO MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AT THE TABLE AND TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, WE ARE GOOD. 
          WE BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO STABILIZE PEOPLE IN HOUSING. 
          AND THAT IS REALLY GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO THEIR HEALTH AND STABILITY LONG TERM, BUT THERE WILL BE OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE NECESSARY. 
          AND PARTICULARLY AMONG THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS QUESTION OF WHERE DO YOU GO, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE IT IS DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE, UM, INPATIENT ADMISSION, UH, FOR PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES. 
          AND EVEN WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IT TENDS TO BE QUITE SHORT, RIGHT? IT'S VERY OFTEN TWO OR THREE DAYS. 
          AND SO REALLY THINKING ABOUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ELSE REALLY IS THERE FOR, FOR PURPOSES OF STABILIZATION. 
          SO I WELCOME THAT CONVERSATION LOOK FORWARD TO, SO IN TERMS OF HEAL, UM, AS I THINK THAT LAST REPORT WE HAD AT THAT TIME RELOCATED BOTH THE ENCAMPMENT AT TERASA LIBRARY AND AT THE BEN WHITE AND, AND MENTOR UNDERPASS LOCATION, UH, THAT WAS, WAS COMPLETED RIGHT AROUND, UM, JULY 18TH, I BELIEVE, UH, IF MEMORY SERVES THOSE TWO SITES COMPRISED ABOUT 70 PEOPLE THAT ACCEPTED AN OFFER TO COME INTO SHELTER AND, UM, AND MOVE INTO PERMANENT HOUSING PROGRAMS, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS OF ABOUT 74 OFFERS. 
          SO LOWER THAN LESS THAN 10% SAID, NO, THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE, AND THOSE ARE OFTEN PEOPLE WHO, UH, STAFF ENGAGE WITH ON AN OUTREACH BASIS, UH, TALK WITH THEM AND, AND MAY NOT SEE THEM AGAIN. 
          SO WE DEFINITELY ARE LEARNING A LOT IN TERMS OF THERE IS FLUIDITY IN THE POPULATION. 
          SOMETIMES IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO ASCERTAIN WITH CERTAINTY WHO IS LIVING THERE AND WHO IS VISITING, UH, BUT OF THE FOLKS WHO, UH, WHO STAFF WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AS LIVING IN THOSE ENCAMPMENTS, VERY HIGH ACCEPTANCE RATES. 
          UH, WE OPENED SOUTHBRIDGE SHELTER, UH, IN MID JUNE TO ACCEPT THE FIRST GUESTS FROM TERASA SOUTHBRIDGE HAS A MAXIMUM OF 75 GUEST ROOMS. UH, AS I SAID, WE, WE MOVED ABOUT 70 FOLKS, UH, IN THERE. 
          I BELIEVE YOU'RE AT ABOUT 90% CAPACITY AT SOUTHBRIDGE RIGHT NOW. 
          AND AFTER WE, WE OPERATED WITH STAFF AND TEMPER AND TEMPORARY CITY STAFF, UH, SOUTH BRIDGE FOR ABOUT A MONTH BEFORE TURNING IT OVER TO FRONT STEPS FOR ONGOING OPERATIONS. 
          UH, INTERVAL CARE DOES HAVE STAFF, UH, THERE ONSITE, UH, DURING, DURING BUSINESS HOURS, UH, FOR ANY MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORTS THAT ARE NEEDED, UM, ON AN, ON AD HOC BASIS, IF YOU WILL. 
          UM, WE ARE NOW MOVING TOWARD THE THIRD AND FOURTH SITES, AND I'LL SAY THAT BECAUSE WE ARE AT CAPACITY NEAR CAPACITY AT SOUTHBRIDGE, WE'RE REALLY DEPENDENT ON THE CREATION OF ADDITIONAL BRIDGE SHELTER OR TURNOVER, UH, IN THE POPULATION AT SOUTHBRIDGE. 
          AND IN OTHER WORDS, PEOPLE BEING PLACED IN PERMANENT HOUSING IN ORDER TO MOVE, UH, TO MOVE TO THAT SITE THREE AND FOUR, 
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WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND ARE DOING TODAY, UM, AND THIS WEEK GENERALLY IS DEMOBILIZING PROLOGUE FOUR, WHICH IS THE COUNTRY INN LOCATED NEAR  AND ST. 
          JOHN'S, UH, THE COUNTRY, AND WILL EVENTUALLY BE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. 
          SO WE ARE HAVE A PLAN TO MOVE TOWARD THAT PERMANENT DISPOSITION, FULL RENOVATION OF THAT BUILDING FOR PERMANENT HOUSING, BUT IN THE INTERIM, WE ARE GOING TO UTILIZE IT AS SHELTER AS WELL. 
          SO WE, UH, TODAY SHOULD MOVE THE FINAL OCCUPANTS OF COUNTRY IN TO THE ONE REMAINING FOR LAUNCH, UH, WHICH IS PROLOGUE ONE, UH, WHICH IS A LEASED FACILITY. 
          UH, AND SO I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF A LITTLE BIT HERE, BUT JUST TO WRAP UP THERE PRO LODGE, WE HAVE A TOTAL IN THAT ONE LEASED FACILITY OF SEVEN TO SEVEN INDIVIDUALS, ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN CONNECTED TO A HOUSING RESOURCE, UH, SO ARE BEING OFFERED, UM, RAPID REHOUSING SERVICES, UH, AND, AND WE ARE PLACING PEOPLE, UH, REGULARLY, UM, AND HAVE OVER THE COURSE OF OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE PRO LODGES AS OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, HAD PLACED 268 PEOPLE IN A PERMANENT HOUSING. 
          SO BACK TO HEAL, UM, WE ARE WORKING THEN TO PREPARE A WHILE WE WILL NOW CALL NORTHBRIDGE, UM, SHELTER, UM, FOR THE NEXT STAGE OF HEAL, WE HAVE TWO MORE SITES, UM, AND ARE MOVING A PACE IN THAT DIRECTION. 
          CERTAINLY ANTICIPATE THE RELOCATION OF THE THIRD SITE BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH. 
          UH, AT THAT POINT, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT COME IN FROM SITE THREE AND OUR PACE OF REHOUSING, UH, AS PEOPLE ARE ENROLLED IN HOUSING PROGRAMS, WE MAY HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT UNTIL WE CAN ENSURE WE HAVE CAPACITY FOR THE FOURTH SITE. 
          UM, WE TH YOU KNOW, THEREFORE I THINK HOPE THAT WE IDEALLY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO BOTH SITES BY THE END OF AUGUST, BUT AGAIN, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE HOW THE HOUSING PLACEMENT RATE GOES. 
          UM, AND OUR NEXT STEP AT THAT POINT IS REALLY TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL, UH, AND TO REPORT ON WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IN TERMS OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS, UH, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, UH, THE CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING, UH, OTHER RESOURCES THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED. 
          AND I THINK IMPORTANTLY, TO COME TO COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT, UH, PRIORITIZE FUTURE ENCAMPMENTS SITES, BECAUSE, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, HE'LL WAS FRAMED, UM, AS AN EFFORT TO REALLY FOCUS ON THOSE ENCAMPMENTS WHERE, UH, THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS AROUND HEALTH AND SAFETY, UM, EVEN EVEN ABOVE SIMPLY THE LACK OF SAFETY IMPLIED BY BEING, UM, LIVING IN SHELTER. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, BEN WHITE AND MANSHACK FOR EXAMPLE, WAS, UM, UH, AN AREA OF SUBSTANTIAL PEDESTRIAN VEHICULAR ACCIDENT RISK. 
          WE'D HAD A FATALITY IN THAT AREA AND MULTIPLE INCIDENTS. 
          SO LOOKING AT TRAFFIC DANGER AT WILDFIRE DANGER AT FLOOD DANGER, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, SO A COMPLEX MATRIX, WE'RE CERTAINLY HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS, BUT WE'LL PROBABLY TAKE A PAUSE ONCE WE COMPLETE THE FINAL RELOCATION TO THEN COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT FRONT. 
          I THINK THAT THE DEMOGRAPHIC REPORTING WILL BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE WAY WE'RE DOING THIS WORK AGAIN, UM, SUPPORTS OUR GOALS AROUND EQUITY. 
          AND DOESN'T IT UNINTENTIONALLY, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, REINFORCE SORT OF THE INEQUITIES IN THE SYSTEM AROUND PARTICULARLY THE RATES OF REHOUSING FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS. 
          UH, AND THEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER PIECE THAT HAS BEEN ENCOURAGING IS, AS I SAY, WE'VE HAD 90% OF PEOPLE ACCEPT SHELTER AND, AND THE OFFER OF HOUSING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY AS WE DO THESE KINDS OF PARTNERS, WE WILL HAVE SOME PEOPLE FALL OUT OF, OF SHELTER, RIGHT. 
          EXIT SHELTER BEFORE THEY'RE HOUSED PERMANENTLY. 
          AND SO REALLY TRACKING EVERY STEP OF THAT PROCESS, WHAT'S OUR ATTRITION RATE AND WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE DO NOT ONLY, UH, GET A PERMANENT HOUSING PLACEMENT, UM, BUT THAT THEIR STABILITY THERE IS SUPPORTED AND THEY'RE GETTING THE RIGHT KIND OF SERVICES. 
          UM, SO I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY MY, MY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF HEAL. 
          UM, SURE. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO ON TO SHELTER AND SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS OR TAKE QUESTIONS ON HE'LL AT THIS TIME? I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE QUESTIONS ON HILL, UM, AT THIS POINT. 
          SO I'LL OPEN THAT UP. 
           THANK YOU. 
          UM, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE THIRD SITE FOR THE HEAL INITIATIVE? WHERE IS THAT? SO WE HAVE NOT BEEN DISCLOSING THE LOCATION OF THE SITES, UH, EXPLICITLY BECAUSE OF FRANKLY OF THE 
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RISK OF PEOPLE IN MIGRATING TO THOSE SITES, TO THE DEGREE THAT WE ARE NOT THEN ABLE TO PLACE THEM IN SHELTER, BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO MANY FOLKS. 
          WHAT I WILL SAY IS THE, UM, THE RESOLUTION OF COURSE IDENTIFIED FOUR SITES, ONE EAST, ONE SOUTH, WHICH WERE  AND BEN WHITE, UH, THE TWO, UH, OTHER DESCRIPTIONS WERE A CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT SITE AND A, UH, NORTH NORTHWEST AUSTIN SITE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND DID YOU MENTION, I KNOW YOU REFERENCED THIS ABOUT, UM, AT SOME POINT HAVING DEMOGRAPHIC DATA AVAILABLE, UM, BUT FOR THE ONES, THE 70 INDIVIDUALS WHO ACCEPTED THE OFFER TO MOVE INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FROM SITES ONE AND TWO, AS PART OF THE HILL INITIATIVE, DO WE, ARE YOU ABLE TO SHARE JUST KIND OF LIKE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS? GOOD. 
          WE HAVE SOME OF THAT AND WHAT I, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO CA UH, UH, VICE CHAIR, IF IT'S OKAY. 
          IS BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE THIRD RELOCATION IS GOING TO HAPPEN VERY SOON. 
          BE ABLE TO SHARE ALL OF THAT WITH YOU AT THE SAME TIME. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THAT GLOBAL LOOK, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT TO YOU IN THE COMING WEEK, WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE ON THE FIRST TWO ENCAMPMENTS, AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO RELOCATION OF ENCAMPMENT, NUMBER THREE, WE WOULD UPDATE THAT FOR YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND JUST SO THAT, I JUST WANT TO SEE IF I'M FOLLOWING FOR THE FIRST TWO SITES, WE HAD SEVEN OF THE FIRST TWO SITES FOR THE HEAL INITIATIVE, 70, 70 INDIVIDUALS ACCEPTED THE OFFER TO MOVE INTO SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. 
          AND THAT IS IN THE SOUTHBRIDGE LOCATION, 70 ACCEPTED THE OFFER TO MOVE INTO BRIDGE SHELTER WITH THE LINKAGE TO RAPID REHOUSING SERVICES, TO PLACE THEM INTO PERMANENT HOUSING, NOT NECESSARILY PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, UH, BUT A RAPID REHOUSING IS ROBUST, BUT TIME LIMITED. 
          SO CASE MANAGEMENT, EXCUSE ME, AND RENTAL SUPPORTS FOR ANYWHERE BETWEEN THREE MONTHS TO TWO YEARS, UH, WE BELIEVE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE, WE WILL EVENTUALLY PLACE INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, BUT THE RESOURCE THAT WE HAD AT, AT THE READY AT THE TIME, UH, WHICH CAN ALSO SERVE AS A, FRANKLY, AS A BRIDGE INTO PSH, IF NEEDED WAS RAPID REHOUSING. 
          UH, SO YES, AND WITH THE UNDER THOSE FOLKS CAME INTO SHELTER WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE BEING INVITED INTO SHELTER AND THEN WOULD BE ENROLLED IN WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE CASE MANAGER ON GETTING INTO THERE FROM YOUR HOUSE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, SO THEN WHAT IS THE NUMBER OF HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HELP GET REHOUSED? SO WE BEGAN, UM, WE GOT OUR CONTRACTS WITH OUR RAPID REHOUSING PROVIDERS INTO PLACE. 
          I BELIEVE ABOUT THE SAME TIME WE WERE STANDING UP THE SHELTER OPERATIONS. 
          AND SO THEY DIDN'T BEGIN ENROLLING FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          UM, AFTER WE INITIATED SHELTER AS OF LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE WE HAD 40 TO 50 OF THE ROUGHLY 70 INDIVIDUALS IN ROLLED IN A HOUSING PROGRAM. 
          NONE OF THOSE HAD YET BEEN PLACED BECAUSE THEY WERE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF THE HOUSING SEARCH, ET CETERA. 
          WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IS THAT BECAUSE THE F IT USUALLY TAKES ABOUT 60 DAYS HAS BEEN OUR AVERAGE IN PRO LODGES. 
          THEN FROM THE TIME OF ENROLLING IN A RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM TO THE ACTUAL HOUSING PLACEMENT. 
          AND SO WE HAD ABOUT 20 PEOPLE ARRIVE IN JUNE. 
          THEY WEREN'T REALLY, THEY BEGAN TO BE ENROLLED IN THOSE HOUSING PROGRAMS, EARLY JULY AND THE 50 FOLKS FROM, UH, BEN WHITE. 
          AND MANSHACK ALSO ARRIVED IN JULY, JULY. 
          SO WE REALLY THINK WE'LL BEGIN TO SEE SOME PLACEMENTS IN AUGUST, AND THEN IT WILL PICK UP FROM THERE. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU, MARTHA MAYOR PRO TEM HARPER, MADISON. 
          I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FIRST MARIPOSA. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          MY RESERVES ARE BOTHERING ME, SO I'LL DEFER TO YOUR, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW ABOUT, UH, HERE. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DIANA, I DID HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, MS. GRAY, I SHOULD SAY. 
          UM, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS THAT I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT I WAS FOLLOWING ALL. 
          SO COUNTRY INN IS NOW GOING TO BE REFERRED TO AS NORTHBRIDGE SHELTER. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. 
          AND I BELIEVE YOU SAID, WHAT IS, WOULD YOU MIND REMINDING US OF THE CAPACITY THERE? THANKS. 
          SO THE TOTAL ROOM COUNT, UM, AT, UH, AT NORTH BRIDGE IS 75. 
          WE SET ASIDE ROOMS FOR SERVICE STAFF, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE ONSITE, YOU KNOW, THE CASE MANAGERS WHO WERE WORKING WITH US. 
          SO WE THINK THAT THERE WILL BE ABOUT 65 DESKS ROOMS, ACTIVE GUEST ROOMS BETWEEN SETTING SOME ROOMS ASIDE FOR OFFICES, AND FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TURNOVER, SOMETIMES WE NEED TO MOVE SOMEONE OUT OF A ROOM TO 
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DO REPAIRS. 
          SURE. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          AND AS I UNDERSTOOD THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE ME, WHICH WAS SUPER HELPFUL, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE PROTECTIVE LODGES. 
          SO THE PROTECTIVE LODGES WERE A PUBLIC HEALTH INTERVENTION TO BRING INDIVIDUALS INTO EMERGENCY SHELTER, NON CONGREGANT, EMERGENCY SHELTER, UM, WHO ARE AT HIGHEST RISK OF GETTING VERY ILL AND, OR SPREADING THE VIRUS TO OTHERS. 
          SO WITHIN THOSE, BUT, UM, THERE WAS A HOUSING COMPONENT TO THAT. 
          AND SO THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HOUSED IN THOSE PROTECTIVE LODGES, UM, OF THOSE, I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY 268 OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS LEFT THE PROTECTIVE LODGE INTO PERMANENT HOUSING. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT'S TERRIFIC. 
          THAT IS REALLY DYNAMITE. 
          AND THERE WERE 77 INDIVIDUALS STILL REMAINING IN PROTECTIVE LODGING, AND THEY ARE NOW GOING TO BE MOVE TO BRIDGE SHELTER. 
          I'M SORRY, THAT'S CONSOLIDATED INTO THE ONE REMAINING PRO LODGE. 
          SO CLOSED PRO LODGE FOR A COUNTRY IN CONVERTING IT INTO A MORE GENERAL BRIDGE SHELTER. 
          UH, BUT PROLOGUE ONE REMAINS, UH, IT IS A LEASED FACILITY AND IT WAS LARGER. 
          AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO TAKE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE AT HER LODGE FOR, WHICH WAS, UH, AT THIS POINT ONLY ABOUT 20 PEOPLE AND MOVE THOSE OVER TO PROLOGUE ONE. 
          SO ALL 77 INDIVIDUALS, UM, AS OF TODAY, AT THE END OF TODAY, I BELIEVE WE'LL BE AT, FOR LUNCH ONE. 
          I SEE. 
          SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE 77 INDIVIDUALS IN PROTECTIVE LODGING. 
          WE HAVE 70 INDIVIDUALS IN BRIDGE SHELTER AT SOUTH BRIDGE, AND THEN YOU ARE BEGINNING TO ROLL OUT SITE NUMBER THREE OF THE HILL INITIATIVE WITH THE HOPE THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO BOTH SITES BY THE END OF AUGUST, BUT IT DOES DEPEND ON THOSE BRIDGE SHELTER OPTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND I KNOW YOU AND I HAD HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT I'D BE SEEKING ABOUT WHO IS, WHO, UM, WHO WERE IN THOSE ENCAMPMENTS NOW IN BRIDGE SHELTER. 
          AND, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT. 
          I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY IN YOUR RESPONSE JUST A MINUTE AGO, THAT, THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO GET THAT INFORMATION LATER AFTER SITE NUMBER THREE. 
          BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION AT THIS POINT, I'D LOVE TO HEAR IT. 
          AND IN PARTICULAR, I'M INTERESTED IN THE DEMOGRAPHIC BREAKDOWN, AS WELL AS THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT ECHO TYPICALLY CON COLLECTS. 
          UM, WHEN THEY DO THE POINT IN TIME, HOW LONG INDIVIDUALS HAVE, HAVE TYPICALLY BEEN HOMELESS? ARE THEY NEWLY HOMELESS ARE, UM, CHRONICALLY HOMELESS? COULD YOU GET ANY SENSE OF, OF THAT INFORMATION? UM, AND IF NOT TODAY IN THE FUTURE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK WHAT, I, I WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEFER THAT CONVERSATION SIMPLY BECAUSE THE STAFF THAT WOULD BE DOING THAT WORK IS THE SAME STAFF THAT IS ATTEMPTING TO SET UP SHELTER THIS WEEK. 
          UM, AND SO WE HAD BEEN DONE TO PULL SOME OF THE DATA, BUT DON'T HAVE THE FULL PROFILE YET. 
          UM, AND I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, LOOK TO GET THAT TO YOU PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. 
          UH, AND IT'S PLAUSIBLE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WILL STARS WILL ALIGN SO THAT WE WILL HAVE DATA ON SITE THREE AS WELL WITH SUCH SEAT. 
          WONDERFUL, WELL, THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK. 
          I MEAN, IT IS, IT IS REALLY CHALLENGING WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE PROVIDING US WITH INFORMATION AD, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO COLLECT DATA AND THEN PROVIDE US WITH MORE INFORMATION, BUT IT'S THE SAME STAFF, AS YOU'VE JUST INDICATED WHO WERE ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK. 
          AND THE WORK IS, YOU KNOW, CONNECTING THOSE INDIVIDUALS WITH, WITH TEMPORARY SHELTER AND PERMANENT HOUSING IS REALLY THE MOST CRITICAL OF THAT WORK. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR PRIORITIZING THAT. 
          UM, AND SO JUST FOR, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE INFORMATION AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, UM, THAT I'D BE INTERESTED IN SAYING ALSO OFTEN, AS YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ASK US, YOU KNOW, ARE THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE COMING TO AUSTIN, ARE THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ALREADY AND COMING TO AUSTIN AND THE DATA YEAR AFTER YEAR, AND THE POINT IN TIME COUNT SHOWS THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY USEFUL AND INSTRUCTIVE TO, TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR THOSE WHO ARE PART OF THE DEAL. 
          INISH, THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN. 
          UM, COLLEAGUES, IF YOU HAVE OTHER IDEAS ABOUT INFORMATION, EITHER IF YOU COULD RAISE THEM NOW OR, OR PROVIDE THEM TO, UM, MS. GRAY AFTERWARDS, SO THAT SHE CAN FOLD THAT INTO, INTO HER REPORT, WHENEVER AGAIN, WHENEVER YOU HAVE TIME AND IT'S APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE THAT MAYOR PRO TEM, UM, I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THIS IS INFORMATION THAT, UH, MS. GRAY WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO NOW, BUT I JUST WANT TO FLAG IT. 
          UM, I KNOW I GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, IF, FOR NO OTHER REASON, YOU KNOW, I, UH, I, I THINK I MIGHT BE THE ONLY PERSON WHO SITS ON OUR DIETS WHO EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS. 
          UM, AND THAT SAID, I HAVE SOME INSIGHTS AND I ALSO HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS. 
          AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE HOUSED AND THAT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT, VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATION, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO NOT HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE FOLKS ARE ASKING 
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ME, WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT THE HAPPY HOBOS? WHO JUST, THEY ARE JUST FINE, JUST FINE BEING EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE. 
          UM, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT POPULATION OF PEOPLE? AND I HONESTLY, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION IF FOR NO OTHER REASON, I DON'T WANT US TO APPEAR AS THAT WE'RE SO NAIVE THAT WE DON'T RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A POPULATION OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT HOUSING. 
          UH, I DON'T WANT US TO NOT SAY THAT, SAY THAT, UH, IF FOR NO OTHER REASON, IT JUST IT'S, IT'S DISINGENUOUS. 
          UM, SO I DO WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AT SOME POINT, AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WHAT DO WE DO? I MEAN, WHAT'S THE RESPONSE TO THAT POPULATION OF FOLKS? UM, I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO FLAG IT. 
          THANK YOU FOR BEARING TIME. 
          AND I JUST DID SOME QUICK CALCULATIONS. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR RATE DIANA WAS ABOUT 93%. 
          IF MY PERCENTAGES, I SHOULD NEVER DO MATH ON THE DICE, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S LIKE 93% OF THOSE IN THE HILL INITIATIVE. 
          AND I HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY AT THE APG RECRUITMENT, UM, TO MEET THE NEW CADETS, TO TALK WITH A COUPLE OF OUR OFFICERS WHO WERE ACTUALLY AT TERASA DOING SOME OF THAT OUTREACH. 
          AND, UM, THEY SHARED WITH ME A LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT A CONVERSATION THEY WERE HAVING WITH SOMEONE WHO WAS SOMEWHAT RELUCTANT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING POINT TO ADDRESS AT, AT AGAIN IN A FULLER CONVERSATION, UM, BECAUSE IT MAY TAKE MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS. 
          I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE ANSWER. 
          I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM YOU AND OTHERS WHO ARE DOING THAT OUTREACH. 
          IF, IF THE ESCALATED TIMEFRAME WAS ALSO A CHALLENGE FOR SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO, WHO HAD CONCERNS OR FEARS OR UNANSWERED, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE INVOLVED, UM, ATTEMPTED TO DO THE BEST YOU COULD ANSWERING QUESTIONS ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT THAT NEXT STEP WOULD LOOK LIKE. 
          BUT MY GUESS IS THAT FOR SOME INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE COUPLE INDIVIDUALS, UM, WHO DID, WHO DID NOT GO TO HOUSING, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A COMPONENT AS WELL. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS OR WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT AT THIS POINT OR THIS TABLE, IT FOR THAT FULLER CONVERSATION. 
          SO I, I APPRECIATE BOTH, UM, I THINK BOTH, BOTH, YOU KNOW, LINES OF THINKING AND, AND COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. 
          UM, I THINK THAT, YES, WE NEED TO BE FRANK ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF ENGAGING SOME FOLKS WHO MAY NOT ACCEPT HOUSING INITIALLY. 
          BUT IF 93 PERCENTAGE, YOU KNOW, PERCENT OF THE FOLKS ON THE STREET WILL THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THE BULK OF OUR WORK. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE, UM, CERTAINLY, UM, EXPERIENCE OF OTHER COMMUNITIES, BUT W BEARS US DIGGING DEEPER INTO FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS, FOR WHOM IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ENGAGE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR VARIETY OF REASONS, THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY TARGETED A PARTICULAR AREA, AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE ACCEPTED SHELTER AND WENT RIGHT AWAY AND THEN IT TOOK THEM A LONG TIME TO GET CERTAIN PEOPLE INTO HOUSING. 
          UM, AND FRANKLY WE DO SOMETIMES HAVE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE HOUSED FOR A PERIOD AND THEN FALL OUT OF HOUSING, RIGHT? SO W WE CERTAINLY NEED SOLUTIONS AND APPROACHES FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS. 
          UM, I THINK WE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S BOTH, AND IT'S, LET'S MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING THE RESOURCES AND THE SYSTEM IN PLACE FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF FOLKS WHO ARE READY AND THEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT LOW BARRIER KIND OF RESOURCES CAN WE UTILIZE FOR PEOPLE WHO, UM, ARE NOT AT THAT TIME, UH, WILLING TO COME INTO HOUSING, UH, SAFE HAVENS OR SOMETHING THAT IS MENTAL HEALTH, UM, UH, ORIENTED SHELTER THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS HAD IN THE PAST. 
          UM, FOR PEOPLE IN, IN THIS CASE, PARTICULARLY FOR PEOPLE WITH SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS, WHERE IT IS A SHELTER THAT WHERE THEY CAN BE, THEY'RE NOT FORCED TO COME INTO, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S NO EXPECTATION AT THAT POINT UNTIL THEY STABILIZE. 
          BUT AGAIN, I THINK, UM, W WE WANT THE REAL DATA. 
          WE WANT TO LEARN MORE AS WE MOVE ALONG, UH, GET BETTER AT THIS. 
          AND I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEING FOCUSED ON THE REAL SHORTAGE OF HOUSING FOR THOSE WHO ARE READY TO COME IN, UH, AND MEETING THAT NEED. 
          AND THEN ALSO GETTING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU SPEAK TO, UM, WE HAVE HER TAM, AND I THINK IMPORTANTLY, AS SOMEONE WITH LIVED EXPERTISE, BOTH PERSONAL AND FAMILIAL, UH, REALLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN, WHAT CAN WE DO, UM, FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO FOR WHATEVER REASON, OR ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, EXPRESSING, UH, THROUGH WORD AND OR DEED RESISTANCE 
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TO, TO COMING IN THE HOUSE. 
          AND IF I MAY JUST TO BE REAL CLEAR, I JUST, I JUST, I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT AS WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE LAYERS, RIGHT? THE, ALL THE COMPLEXITIES, BECAUSE I THINK NOT TALKING ABOUT IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT TRUE. 
          UM, SO JUST, I, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO AND BRIDGING SOME DIVIDES. 
          I THINK THIS CONVERSATION HAS BECOME SO POLITICAL AND THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO OTHER ONE ANOTHER BASED ON US, NOT JUST REALLY DEEPLY GOING INTO SOME OF THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          UH, YES. 
          MARIETTA JUST REAL QUICK, I'LL SAY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, OR THE PUBLIC ASKS THE SAME QUESTION THAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM RATES, UH, AS YOU'RE TRYING TO DEFY PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY, I HEAR THAT QUESTION A LOT. 
          SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE INVITATION FOR US TO, TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE YOU HEAR THAT QUESTION A LOT, AS WELL AS THE QUESTION THAT YOU RAISED, CATHERINE, HER TO-GO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE DO SERVICES BETTER THAN WE ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO CURB TO THE CITY. 
          UH, AND THEIR LAST POINT I JUST MAKE REAL PAST IS, UH, TO, UM, MS. GRAY BOY, YOUR LITTLE STAFF IS DOING AN AWFUL LOT OF STUFF WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          AND, AND I HOPE WE COME OUT OF THIS BUDGET SESSION WITH, UH, WITH YOU HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, ASSISTANCE TO GET THE WORK, APPRECIATE THAT NEAR. 
          AND SO ACTUALLY, I THINK IT MIGHT MAKE BEST SENSE. 
          UM, DIANA, IF WE TALK NEXT ABOUT CRO LODGES, SINCE WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN THAT TO SOME EXTENT IN THE CONTEXT OF HEAL AND THEN MOVE ON TO SANCTIONED AND CANDIDATES. 
          SURE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK AT MY NOTES, I WOULD SAY THAT LARGELY, I THINK WE'VE COVERED THE HIGH POINTS OF WHAT I WANTED TO, TO, UH, TO BRIEF YOU ON TODAY, WHICH WAS THAT WE ARE NOW, UH, HAVE CONSOLIDATED FROM A TOTAL OF FIVE PRO LODGES AT THE MAXIMUM, UM, WHICH I THINK AT WHICH TIME WE HAD AROUND 300, UH, UH, 350 BED CAPACITY TO A SINGLE PROLOGUE WITH 77 FOLKS, UH, IN IT, AND, YOU KNOW, OUR IN, UH, UH, PAY CONTINUING TO PACE AT REHOUSING, THOSE FOLKS, WE HAVE NOT TAKEN NEW FOLKS INTO PRO LODGES FOR MONTHS NOW, UM, WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED TO DEMOBILIZE, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RATES OF INFECTION IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE FLUCTUATED QUITE A BIT. 
          UM, BUT, UM, BUT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, I THINK NOW MOVING TOWARD, UH, PLACING THESE INDIVIDUALS, UM, AND, AND GOING AHEAD, AND DEMOBILIZING THE, THE FINAL PRO LODGE WHEN THAT HAPPENS, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROLOGIS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, DESIGNATED IN KEVIN'S. 
          AND I KNOW THAT WE WILL HAVE A FULLER CONVERSATION OR A CONVERSATION WITH OUR COLLEAGUES TOMORROW, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT, THAT REALLY THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE NEEDS TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON THAT INFORMS BUDGET CHOICES. 
          UM, BUT IF YOU WOULD KIND OF LEAD US THROUGH WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE COMMITTEE TO HEAR TODAY AND TO, TO ENGAGE IN, IN TERMS OF THAT CONVERSATION. 
          AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE, UM, THESE THREE CONVERSATIONS ARE ALL VERY MUCH INTERWOVEN. 
          I THINK WE TOOK THE DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL, UM, UH, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PASSAGE OF PROPOSITION BEAT ON MAY 1ST TO TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF, UM, UH, DESIGNATED ENCAMPMENTS ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY. 
          UH, AND THEN, SO THAT, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IS IN THE CONTEXT OF A NEED, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT QUESTION, WHERE CAN PEOPLE GO AS LEGAL FOR THEM TO BE A SAFE FOR THEM TO BE, UM, ALWAYS WITH, I THINK THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S RESOURCE INTENSIVE, BUT PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CREATE SHELTER FOR THE 2000 PEOPLE, UH, THAT ARE ON THE STREETS EVERY NIGHT, BUT THAT WE NEEDED TO CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IN GENERAL. 
          AND SO OVER THE PAST, NOW THREE MONTHS, WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH A MULTI-STEP PROCESS THROUGH WHICH, UH, IN, IN, AND I, I DO NEED TO GIVE, I THINK A LOT OF CREDIT TO THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, PARKS AND RECREATION REALLY, UM, CARRIED THE WATER ON THE SITE ANALYSIS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO WE STARTED WITH A LIST OF 78 CITY OWNED PROPERTIES, UM, IN SHORT ORDER, UH, YOU KNOW, CUT THAT LIST ALMOST IN HALF, UH, AS COUNSEL CLARIFIED THAT THEY DID NOT WISH ANY, UM, PARKLAND, WHETHER DEVELOPED OR UNDEVELOPED TO BE CONSIDERED. 
          THOSE PROPERTIES CAME OFF THE LIST. 
          WE HAD PROVIDED FOR COUNCIL, SOME OF THE SORT OF GENERAL CRITERIA, UH, THAT WOULD MAKE A SITE SORT OF BASELINE FEASIBLE THE SIZE OF THE SITE, AT LEAST A COUPLE OF ACRES ACCESS TO UTILITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, AT, OR NEAR THE SITE, UH, AND SOME ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION. 
          AND SO THROUGH AN ITERATIVE PROCESS, WE CAME DOWN, UM, 
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LAST MONTH TO TWO SITES, UM, MADE A ROAD 35, 11 MAIN ROAD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY PUBLIC WORKS, BUT IT'S BEING TRANSFERRED INTO HFCS OWNERSHIP AND, UH, PROPERTY ON CONVICT HILL, ALSO AN HRC PROPERTY. 
          AND SO AT THAT POINT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY AS FURTHER WORK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE WAS REALLY LOOKING AT THE ENTITLEMENTS, UH, AT THE IMPACT OF, YOU KNOW, BOND FINANCING, IF IN FACT THAT WERE THE CASE, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND SORT OF UNDERSTANDING TIMELINE. 
          AND SO THE MEMO THAT WAS, UH, DELIVERED IN THE BRIEFING THAT WE, WE PROVIDED, BUT DIDN'T QUITE GET TO GO THROUGH, UH, ENTIRELY LAST WEEK. 
          UH, I THINK THAT THE SUMMARY WAS FOR THOSE TWO SITES, BOTH WOULD NEED TO BE REZONED, UH, TO COMMERCIAL AND THAT WE WOULD LIKELY NEED A SITE PLAN OR A SITE PLAN EXEMPTION FOR THE CONVICT HILL PROPERTY. 
          A SITE PLAN EXEMPTION IS NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BARTON SPRINGS RECHARGE. 
          SO, UH, AND THEN OF COURSE WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT PERMITTING THAT ALSO, UH, CERTAINLY INFORMED BY I THINK THE VIGOROUS, UH, INPUT ON THE PART OF COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING THESE SITES, THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE VERY NECESSARY IF WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD TO DO, UM, INTENTIONAL, UH, EXTENSIVE AND PROBABLY NOT BRIEF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AROUND THIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T EVEN, AT THIS POINT, WE CAN'T POINT TO WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE INTENDING. 
          AND SO THE TIMELINE WE BELIEVE IS AT LEAST SIX MONTHS WE HAD PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED COST ESTIMATES. 
          WE THOUGHT WERE QUITE CONSERVATIVE COST ESTIMATES TO COUNCIL AND BY CONSERVATIVE, I MEAN PROBABLY ON THE LOW END OF 1.3 MILLION MINIMUM TO OPERATE IT FOR 50 PEOPLE. 
          AND THAT I THINK TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING AS THE STAFF ON BOARD AT HSD RIGHT NOW TO BE REALLY STRATEGIC ABOUT WHERE WE, WE ARE INVESTING OUR EFFORT, UM, SO THAT WE HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT AND THAT IF WE WERE GOING TO ENGAGE IN THAT MORE INTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, THAT REALLY WOULD TAKE PROBABLY TWO, TWO FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT FOLKS SPENDING THEIR TIME ON IT. 
          AND SO I THINK THE, THE MESSAGE THAT WAS ABLE TO SORT OF GIVE BRIEFLY LAST THURSDAY WAS, UM, WE ARE AT A POINT NOW WHERE I THINK WE UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS, WHAT THE COSTS AND, AND, UM, AND RESOURCES NEEDED ARE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THOSE TWO SITES. 
          I THINK I WOULD SEEK MORE, UM, SARAH CLEAR COUNCIL DIRECTION BEFORE ASKING MY STAFF TO COME OFF OF OTHER PROJECTS AND REALLY BEGIN TO DEDICATE A LOT OF TIME TO IT. 
          AND SO THAT CONVERSATION, I THINK, IS VERY RELATED TO US HAVING NOW, YOU KNOW, WE SET UP SOUTHBRIDGE IN THE SPACE OF 30 DAYS. 
          WE NOW BELIEVE WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE NORTH BRIDGE UP AND OPERATIONAL IN 30 DAYS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO MOVE RELATIVELY QUICKLY. 
          WE WON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ENDLESS CITY-OWNED HOTELS. 
          THOSE ARE REALLY THE ONLY TWO WE HAVE THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THIS WAY, BUT ASKING, YOU KNOW, OR AT LEAST OPENING UP THE CONVERSATION OF COUNCIL SETTING GOALS FOR ME AND OUR DIVISION OF WHAT WE WANT TO GET DONE, AND THEN COMING, ALLOWING US TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH OUR CONSIDERED OPINION ABOUT HOW WE CAN MOST QUICKLY RESPOND TO THE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL CRISIS CAPACITY. 
          UM, I THINK FINAL NOTE, THERE IS JUST THE COUNCIL, AS YOU WILL RECALL, APPROVED $4.2 MILLION OUT OF THE ARP, UH, FUNDING FOR CRISIS RESPONSE. 
          IF YOU WILL, THAT BE RESPONSE. 
          WE HAD DEVELOPED THAT BUDGET BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WOULD BE OPENING UP ANOTHER SHELTER OF SOME SORT THAN A LEASED FACILITY, BECAUSE WE NOW ARE GOING TO USE COUNTRY IN, IT WILL NOT BE QUITE AS EXPENSIVE. 
          AND WHAT I, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS POTENTIALLY NAILING DOWN THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE, UM, OUT OF THAT $4.2 MILLION AND ISSUING A REQUEST FOR INTEREST ESSENTIALLY, UH, AN INFORMAL CALL FOR PROPOSALS FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO MAY HAVE AN APPROPRIATE SITE FOR A DESIGNATED ENCAMPMENT. 
          THAT'S APPROPRIATELY ZONED ALREADY, WHO WERE PEOPLE WHO ARE ANXIOUS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS EFFORT, 
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COULD USE SOME CITY MATCH FOR THEIR OWN RESOURCES, BUT THE CITY IS NOT NECESSARILY PAYING FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE OPERATION OF SHELTER AND, OR A DESIGNATED ENCAMPMENT. 
          AND SO WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH, UH, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UH, AND HOW LONG IT MIGHT TAKE US, UH, ENSURING THAT WE'RE, WE ARE WITHIN THE GOOD GRACES OF PROCUREMENT. 
          UM, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK THAT IS WHERE I SIT WITH THE DESIGNATED ENCAMPMENTS. 
          WE CAN CERTAINLY MOVE FORWARD AT COUNCIL DIRECTION, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT, UM, IN TERMS NOT ONLY OF OUR OVERALL WORK, BUT PARTICULARLY NARROWLY AROUND CRISIS CAPACITY, THERE MAY BE WAYS THAT WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL MORE QUICKLY. 
          MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR. 
          UH, OH MAN. 
          THANK YOU, MS. GRAY. 
          UH, THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT I'M JUST ABOUT TO JUMP OUT OF MY SEAT BECAUSE I'M SO EXCITED TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE SAYING THE THINGS OUT LOUD, UM, INCLUDING WE'VE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE MAKE OFFERS FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY, PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY, UM, PRIVATE DOLLARS. 
          THEY WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH TO BE A PART OF US HELPING TO, TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION. 
          AND I, I JUST, I HOPE THAT WE FIND A WAY TO HELP FACILITATE THEIR PHILANTHROPY, THEIR ALTRUISM. 
          I MEAN, HOW, HOW DO WE FIND THE WAY FORWARD? I I'VE GOTTEN MORE OFFERS IN MY INBOX THEN, UM, THEN I KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO, TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU. 
          SO THERE'S THAT, UM, THEN THERE'S ALSO, UH, SOMETHING YOU SAID THAT REALLY GOT ME SCRATCHING MY HEAD A LITTLE BIT, UM, ABOUT DESIGNATED IN CANDIDATES. 
          UM, I JUST WONDER IF WE'RE NEVER GOING TO FIND OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE ANY NEIGHBORHOOD, ANY COMMUNITY ANYWHERE SAYS, OKAY, GO FOR IT, DO IT. 
          IN WHICH CASE DO WE HAVE, UH, AN EXIT STRATEGY HAS WORDS? I, I MEAN, MAYBE I'M NOT ARTICULATING THAT WELL, BUT I JUST, I CERTAINLY WANT TO KNOW, LIKE WE, WE FOUND OURSELVES, WE STARTED AT 47 AND THEN WE GOT TO TWO AND NOW EVEN THOSE TWO ARE SO HIGHLY CONTENTIOUS. 
          I JUST, AND MAYBE THAT'S A, MAYBE THIS IS A TOMORROW CONVERSATION, BUT AT THIS POINT IT'S LIKE, LET'S JUST, Y'ALL, LET'S JUST GO AND KEEP IT REAL. 
          I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? ARE WE DOING THIS? ARE WE NOT DOING THIS? IN WHICH CASE? IT JUST, I GUESS I JUST HAVE A LOT OF DOUBT THAT IT, AS YOU WELL KNOW, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THESE IS IN MY DISTRICT AND MY CONSTITUENTS ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT. 
          THEY DON'T WANT IT. 
          I COULD, I COULD TELL YOU ALL THE REASONS WHY THEY DON'T WANT IT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, DOES THAT EVEN MATTER? I MEAN, ARE WE EVER GOING TO FIND OURSELVES IN A PLACE WHERE, WHERE THIS IS A STRATEGY THAT WORKS AND THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT ONE OF THE SPONSORS OF THAT RESOLUTION. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS JUST HAVE A GROUP OF US GET TOGETHER AND TALK THROUGH, LIKE, WHILE I CAN APPRECIATE WHAT WE TRIED TO ACCOMPLISH HERE, WHICH I SUPPORTED, UM, EVEN NOT BEING A SPONSOR, I DID SUPPORT WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE EVER GOING TO GET THERE. 
          AND I THINK NOT BEING STRAIGHT UP AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE SHOULDN'T HAVE CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE'RE NOT BEING ENTIRELY HONEST WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS AND JUST SAYING, HEY, I GOT CONCERNS ABOUT THAT TOO. 
          SO THAT SAID, MY CONSTITUENTS ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS MAIN ROAD LOCATION, AND I HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEM. 
          SO I'M JUST, I'M JUST WORRIED THAT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET THERE WITH THIS AS A STRATEGY. 
          NO, I, I DO THINK, UM, SOME OF THAT CONVERSATION REALLY IS APPROPRIATE FOR TOMORROW BECAUSE IT, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE A CONVERSATION WE HAVE WITH OUR FULL COLLEAGUES. 
          I WAS THE SPONSOR OF THAT RESOLUTION. 
          I CAN TELL YOU, SINCE MY CONSTITUENTS ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MAINER ROAD, MY CONSTITUENTS WERE ALSO UNHAPPY WITH IT. 
          UM, WE HAVE GOT TO HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, NUMBER ONE, WHERE PEOPLE WILL GO AND TO, UM, WHERE, HOW WE GET SOME DIVERSITY IN GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION, BECAUSE MY CONSTITUENTS ARE ALSO VERY UNHAPPY ABOUT THE LARGE ENCAMPMENT THAT WAS UNDER 38TH STREET AND NEAR AIRPORT. 
          THEY WERE VERY UNHAPPY ABOUT ONE OF THE VERY LARGEST ENCAMPMENTS IN THE CITY THAT WAS ON CESAR CHAVEZ AND 
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TOWN LAKE. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT TOO, THAT THE UN-DESIGNATED CAMPING AREAS HAVE LARGELY HIT CERTAIN AREAS OF TOWN AND NOT OTHERS. 
          AND WE HAVE RESOURCES IN CERTAIN AREAS OF TOWN AND NOT OTHERS. 
          AND FRANKLY, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT WHETHER THEY'RE DESIGNATED IN CAMPING ENCAMPMENTS OR WHETHER THEY ARE EMERGENCY SHELTER, THEY NEED TO BE ALL OVER THE CITY. 
          AND, AND YES, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HEAR CONCERNS WHEREVER THEY ARE. 
          UM, BUT WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS AN EXPECTATION SET THAT THERE COULD BE AN UN-DESIGNATED CAMPING AREAS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          AND, AND WE NOW, UM, ARE TRYING TO MANAGE FROM THERE AND TRYING TO BUILD BACK PUBLIC SUPPORT OR WHAT ARE, ARE REALLY PROVEN GREAT METHODS OF ADDRESSING THAT SITUATION, WHICH IS THROUGH BRIDGE SHELTER AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. 
          BUT WE'RE HAVING, WE'RE REALLY STRUGGLING, IN MY OPINION, WE'RE STRUGGLING TO GET THE SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITY, UM, LARGELY BECAUSE OF, OF, UM, SOME OF, SOME OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE INTERIM. 
          SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF TALKING TO DO, AND I THINK SOME OF THAT'S REALLY GOTTA BE WITH OUR OTHER COLLEAGUES. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PATH FORWARD IS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S UPON US. 
          I MEAN, IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, PEOPLE WILL BE ARRESTED AND WE'VE YET TO, I'M SUPER PLEASED AT THE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. 
          UM, THE WORK DIANA GRAY THAT YOU ARE DOING AND YOUR STAFF ARE DOING AND SUPPORTING, IDENTIFYING OPTIONS FOR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING FOR BRIDGE SHELTER, FOR PROTECTIVE LODGING AS THE PUBLIC HEALTH INTERVENTION. 
          UM, BUT WE KNOW THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. 
          SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE STOP GAP MEASURE THERE? I THINK I SAW YOUR HAND UP, I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          THIS IS A CONVERSATION. 
          I THINK THAT COLLECTIVELY, WE NEED TO BE A PART OF, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT DIANA AND THE CITY MANAGER ARE ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS IN THIS CONVERSATION AS WELL, SO THAT THEY CAN BRING THEIR, UH, PROFESSIONAL EXPERTISE TO, TO, TO, TO BEAR, UH, DIANA THE, UH, MS. GRAY. 
          UM, WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PUTTING PEOPLE INTO HOUSING THAT HAS SUPPORTIVE SERVICES, UH, AND THEY'RE LIKE OVER 90% SUCCESSFUL IN HELPING PEOPLE STAY OFF THE STREETS FOR AN INDEFINITE PERIOD OF TIME. 
          WE COULD ALSO HAVE A SANCTIONED CAMPING AREA AND TRY TO PUT THE SAME SERVICES THERE. 
          UH, AND I, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE DONE THAT. 
          IT APPEARS THAT WHEN YOU DO THAT AND TRY TO BRING THE SAME SERVICES TO THE PEOPLE, BUT IN A SANCTION CAMP AREA, AS OPPOSED TO A HOUSING THAT IS FAR LESS, UH, AFFECTIVE, I MEAN, DOWN IN THE, IN THE 20% RANGE, AS OPPOSED TO THE 95% RANGE, DO I HAVE THOSE NUMBERS? RIGHT. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO, I THINK, COME BACK TO YOU ON THAT MAYOR. 
          UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS, SO THE 90% EFFECTIVENESS IS USUALLY ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY PLACED INTO PERMANENT HOUSING, RIGHT? BUT THE, THE DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENTIAL IN EFFECTIVENESS BETWEEN A DESIGNATED ENCAMPMENT AND AGAIN, THE NATURE OF A DESIGNATED ENCAMPMENT CAN VARY WILDLY, WHICH I THINK IS PART OF, PART OF THE UNCERTAINTY ON THE PART OF THE PUBLIC IS THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OR WE JUST POINTING TO A PIECE OF LAND, OR ARE WE ACTUALLY PROVIDING SERVICES AND SUPPORTS TO CONGREGATE SHELTER, TO NON CONGREGATE SHELTER? I THINK WE CERTAINLY, UM, OUR EXPERIENCE LOCALLY WITH PROLOGUE AS A MODEL, UM, LENDS ITSELF TO AN UNDERSTANDING THAT NON-COVERED AT SHELTERS, CERTAINLY IT'S WAY MORE SPACE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON, ET CETERA, A BIT MORE EXPENSIVE PER PERSON, BUT THAT OUR SUCCESS IN PEOPLE GETTING, GETTING PEOPLE HOUSED OUT OF THAT SPACE WAS HIGHER BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE STABLE, YOU KNOW, UM, OR THEY HAD SOME PRIVACY AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WERE, UM, AND I THINK THAT PROXIMITY TO PEOPLE WITH NO PRIVACY IS INCREDIBLY STRESSFUL. 
          AND PARTICULARLY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED TRAUMA, UM, OVER TIME. 
          UH, AND SO I THINK IT DOES LEND TO SOME DEGREES IN CONGREGATE SHELTER AND POTENTIALLY DESIGNATED SHELTER TO, TO, TO TURN OVER, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN COME BACK WITH YOU, UH, TO YOU ON THAT. 
          AND AGAIN, I THINK WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR IS THAT THE RESOLUTION DID NOT ASK STAFF TO MY READ OR RECOMMENDATION ABOUT WHETHER THE CITY WOULD EVER FUND DESIGNATE ENCAMPMENT ANYWHERE. 
          IT ASKS US TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF PROVIDING INFORMATION ANALYSIS AND LOOKING AT SPECIFIC PROPERTIES. 
          WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS, UM, OF THAT POOL OF PROPERTIES THAT THE CITY OWNS, UH, WE DID NOT FIND, UH, 
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MANY SITES THAT APPEARED TO BE SUITABLE. 
          AND EVEN THOSE THAT WERE CLOSEST, IT'S STILL A TIME. 
          IT WAS A TIME ELEMENT THERE. 
          AND I BELIEVE AT LEAST FOR MANY COMMUNITIES, PART OF THE, I MEAN, PART OF THE ATTRACTION OF DESIGNATING THE CAMP MINT IS THAT YOU'RE NOT BUILDING A SHELTER. 
          YOU CAN, IT CAN BE DONE QUICKLY. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY I SAY, I THINK THAT WE, ONE WAY FOR US TO PROCEED IS ALSO TO BE OPEN, POTENTIALLY PUTTING OUT AN RFI OR, OR, YOU KNOW, FIGURING OUT A WAY FORWARD FOR ALLOWING PEOPLE TO BRING, UH, PARCELS TO LOSS OR TO PUT TOGETHER PROJECTS WHERE THE ZONING MAY ALREADY BE IN PLACE WAYS TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THAT. 
          AND YOU ALREADY ASKED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT. 
          I WANT TO CONTINUE TO ANSWER A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS THAT, THAT, THAT TO ME, UH, HOPE WE CAN DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER AS A, AS A GROUP, BUT, BUT ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. 
          UH, I THINK FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE THE STRATEGY AND TO, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOKO GOT, THAT, THAT HAD REALLY FOCUSED US. 
          CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY DON'T ASK ME FOR THIS SOLUTION. 
          AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK THROUGH IT AND DECIDE WHETHER WE DO IT OR HOW WE DO IT OR WHERE WE DO IT, OR HOW MUCH MONEY WE PUT AGAINST IT, IF WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE THERE ARE FORCED CHOICES INVOLVED IN THIS, WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING. 
          WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES. 
          SO MY QUESTIONS GO TO THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO EVALUATE HOW TO MAKE THOSE RELATIVE CHOICES. 
          SO ONE THING THAT WE IT'S, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN A, IN A CAMPING AREA OF SOME SORT OR A SANCTION CAMP AREA, OR SOME KIND OF EVEN CONGREGATE LIVING. 
          THEY HAD TO BE LIVING IN THE WOODS IN THE STREAMS, DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF SOURCE, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES THAT YOUR BRAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD BRING SECURITY TO THAT PLACE. 
          YOU COULD BRING IN BATHROOMS OR PORTA-POTTIES INTO THAT PLACE. 
          YOU COULD BRING IN LIGHTING INTO THAT PLACE. 
          YOU COULD BRING YOUR COUNSELOR, YOU COULD BRING IN THOSE THINGS. 
          AND THE MORE THINGS YOU BRING IN, OBVIOUSLY THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT IS, THE MORE DOLLARS YOU'RE INVESTING IN THAT. 
          UH, AND THE QUESTION ULTIMATELY FOR THE COMMUNITY IS DO WE PUT THE DOLLARS THERE OR DO WE PUT THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE OR SOME COMBINATION THERE OUT. 
          SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND I EVALUATE IT AND I SAY, WELL, IT'S BETTER FOR SOMEBODY TO BE IN ONE OF THESE OTHER PLACES THAN BIG TOLL. 
          YOU CAN'T BE HERE AND YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU DO. 
          AND AS IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO WHERE WE JUST HAD THE ORDERS AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S NOT A REALLY EFFICIENT WAY TO SPEND BY THE, IF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF HOMELESSNESS. 
          IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THEM INTO A HOME, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO DO A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. 
          SO IT HELPS MORE WITH THE INTERIM ISSUE, BUT DOESN'T HELP AS MUCH OR AS EFFICIENTLY OR AS COST-EFFECTIVELY, OR AS SUCCESSFULLY AS INVESTIGATING RAPID HOUSING OR BRIDGE HOUSING. 
          UH, AS YOU'RE DOING WITH THOSE, UH, INSTANCES OR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, WE'VE HAD OTHER CITIES THAT WE COULD LOOK AT TO SEE WHAT THE EXPERIENCE IS, I THINK, RIGHT? SO I THINK PORTLAND'S WON. 
          I WAS READING AN EVALUATION OF SAN FRANCISCO IN A NEWS ARTICLE THAT JUST CAME OUT THE OTHER DAY WHERE, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY WAS ASKING FOR IMMEDIATE FIXES, THEY INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN KIND OF SANCTIONED CARE UP IN AREAS, BUT IT DIDN'T MOVE PEOPLE OUT. 
          UH, SO THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THERE WHILE I WAS INTENDED TO BE TEMPORARY, THEY'RE FINDING IT REALLY HARD TO KEEP THEM TEMPORARY. 
          SO AT THE END OF THE YEAR, SO MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE STILL THERE, OR THEY HAD LEFT TO GO BACK TO THE WOODS OR THERE'S THREE, BUT IT BEGAN THAT TO BE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAD TO CREATE BOARD AT BOOM OR, UH, THIS KIND OF SANCTIONED CAMP AREA, BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE BEING PULLED OUT OF THESE THINGS INTO THE OTHER SPACES. 
          THEY DIDN'T HAVE, I NEED TO CREATE THE OTHER SPACES BECAUSE THEY WERE SPENDING ALL THEIR MONEY ON DEALING WITH THE IMMEDIACY OF THE, OF THE, OF THE ISSUE. 
          UH, AND, AND SO, SO PART OF THE CHALLENGE I THINK WE HAVE AS A COMMUNITY IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE AS COUNCIL MEMBER WENT, THIS POINTS OUT, WE HAVE A CITY ORDINANCE AND WE HAVE A STATE LAW THAT'S GOING TO COME INTO PLAY. 
          HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE SPEND ON ANSWERING THE IMMEDIACY OF THE QUESTION VERSUS SPENDING THE MONEY IN A WAY THAT TWO YEARS FROM NOW THREE YEARS FROM NOW, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WILL ACTUALLY HAVE LED TO US GETTING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE OFF STREETS TO BE ABLE TO REACH, TO REACH EQUILIBRIUM. 
          I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE ACTUALLY ARRESTED OLDER BECAUSE IT'S SPIRITS. 
          WE HAD TWO YEARS AGO AS WE WEREN'T ARRESTING PEOPLE, BUT PEOPLE WERE BEING TOLD YOU CAN'T BE HERE AND THEY WOULD GET UP AND MOVE AND WHEREVER THEY MOVED MOVE 
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TO, THEY WERE SUSCEPTIBLE IF THEY MOVED AGAIN. 
          UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PUBLIC SAD THAT IT WANTED TO MOVE BACK TO THAT PLACE WITH THOSE ORDINANCES, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE THE CAMPING. 
          I THINK THEY WANTED US TO BACKFILL THE LADS AND PROVIDE PLACES FOR PEOPLE, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE, BUT THERE WAS NO DIRECTION ON DO WE SPEND ALL OUR MONEY ON SHORT-TERM INTERIM KINDS OF THINGS THAT DON'T ULTIMATELY TAKE PEOPLE OFF THE STREET, GET PEOPLE TO BETTER PLACES, OR DO WE INVEST THE MONEY IN THINGS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY OVER 2, 3, 4, 5 YEAR PERIOD OF TIME ACTUALLY DECREASE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND GET US BACK TO, TO, TO EQUILIBRIUM. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S THIS DEBATE INVOLVED OR THIS DISCUSSION INVOLVED, THOSE KINDS OF CHOICES. 
          OF COURSE, MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST SAY, OF COURSE IT DOES. 
          AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE COUPLE OF TIMES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AT COUNCIL, I MEAN, IT CONTINUES TO BE PHRASED IN THAT WAY. 
          LIKE, DO WE WANT TO INVEST IN, YOU KNOW, PUTTING RESTROOMS ON A PIECE OF LAND FOR PEOPLE TO COME CAMP OR DO WE WANT TO INVEST IN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING? OF COURSE, IF IT'S PHRASED THAT WAY, WE'RE ALL GOING TO CHOOSE THE LATTER. 
          RIGHT. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE, I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S REALLY NICE, BUT I GUESS I WOULD SUGGEST SINCE THIS DOES INVOLVE BUDGET AND HOW WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY, THAT WE, THAT WE TABLE THOSE QUESTIONS FOR TOMORROW TO HAVE WITH OUR COLLEAGUES ABOUT WHAT THE RIGHT BALANCE IS. 
          I, I DO THINK THERE ARE QUESTIONS. 
          I HAVE SOME VERY, JUST FACTUAL QUESTIONS TO ASK ABOUT SOME OF THE ESTIMATES WE'VE GOTTEN BACK, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENT ESTIMATES. 
          BUT I WANNA, I WANT TO JUST, UM, LET'S, LET'S THINK ABOUT WHAT THE QUESTIONS THAT THE MAYOR RAISED AND THINK ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS THE VENUE WHERE TOMORROW IS, UM, VICE CHAIR, QUINTAS. 
          I KNOW YOU HAVE TO LEAVE AND I WANTED TO OFFER YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS IF YOU HAD ANY, BEFORE YOU DEPART, THANK YOU, CHAIR TURBO. 
          YES. 
          AND I'LL, UM, KIND OF RESERVE MY, MY THOUGHTS AND, AND COMMENTS FOR TOMORROW'S DISCUSSION. 
          BUT, UH, THE QUESTION, I, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IF WE DO GO DOWN THE RFI ROUTE, UM, WE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN ALSO IDENTIFY FUNDING TO HAVE, AS YOU SUGGESTED, UM, MS. GRAY TO HAVE, UM, FTES AVAILABLE TO DO THAT COMMUNITY GATE ENGAGEMENT, BECAUSE THAT IS DEFINITELY A NEED THAT WE HAVE, WHETHER THE CITY HAS A DESIGNATED ENCAMPMENT SITE, OR IF IT COMES FORWARD THROUGH, UM, THROUGH THE PUBLIC, IF WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ACTIVELY BUILDING THAT IN. 
          UM, AND SO THAT, THAT WAS IT. 
          I DO HAVE TO HOP OFF. 
          THANK YOU ALL, UM, FOR THIS MEETING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CERTO FOR THIS MEETING. 
          AND, UM, I, I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR CONVERSATION TOMORROW. 
          THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR, MARRIAGE. 
          WOULD YOU WANT TO THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR, GLAD YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT MERITAGE. 
          YOU WANT TO PICK UP WITH YOUR QUESTION FOR DIANA? NOT SO MUCH. 
          I THINK TRUE, IS IT BECAUSE I THINK WE DO HAVE TO MAKE A BUDGET CHOICE, BUT I WANTED TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS A FORCED CHOICE. 
          UM, MY SENSE IS IS THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT TO SOME DEGREE. 
          AND IT'S A QUESTION OF FINDING TO WHAT DEGREE DO WE DO IT? I MEAN, I'M CONCERNED FOR EXAMPLE, ABOUT, ABOUT, UH, WOMEN HAVING, UH, A CHOICE TO JUST GO BACK TO THE, TO THE WOODS OF YOUR STREAMS. AND I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S AN EXIT JUST TO SAY THAT THAT EXISTS, THAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW IF WE WERE GOING TO INVEST MORE MONEY ON THE LONG TERM SOLUTION, HOW WE DEAL WITH THAT. 
          I THINK THERE'S ALSO THE QUESTION THAT YOU RAISED, UH,  WITH RESPECT TO THE, THE UN-DESIGNATED CAMPING AREAS THAT ARE VERY MUCH ALSO CAMPING AREAS, AND WE JUST DON'T OWN UP TO THEM BEHAVE THAT WAY, BUT THEN ARE THERE WAYS WE SHOULD BE BETTER MANAGING, YOU KNOW, THE SHARED PUBLIC SPACES IN THIS INTERIM PERIOD OF TIME WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE MOVING PEOPLE OUT. 
          BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE TO ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE AS IT WAS PASSED, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC SAID TO DO. 
          SO ON THESE FORCED CHOICES, I'M LOOKING FOR MORE PROFESSIONAL DIRECTION FROM DIANA AND FROM THE MANAGER WITH RESPECT TO ALERT THE EXPERIENCES WE HAVE AT OTHER PLACES AND, AND, AND HOW WE BALANCE SHORT TERM VERSUS LONGER TERM. 
          AND WHAT ADVICE ARE. 
          BUT IF YOU, UH, CATERPILLAR TORTURE AND WE HAD TO WAIT TO ASK THAT QUESTION TOMORROW, I CAN, I CAN DO THAT. 
          UM, DIANA, YOUR PREFERENCE. 
          I THINK, I THINK IT DOES ABSOLUTELY LEAD INTO TOMORROW. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AGAIN. 
          SO I THINK WE CAN, DIANA, WHY DON'T YOU SHARE WITH US, BUT WHAT YOU, UM, WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE, BUT I, I DO WANT TO ASK OUR COLLEAGUES TO JOIN US IN THAT CONVERSATION TOMORROW AS WELL. 
          AND, AND CAN IT COME TOMORROW? I THINK PERHAPS WITH SOME MORE CONCRETE, UM, 
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THOUGHTS AROUND NUMBERS, ET CETERA. 
          WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT, UM, WE THINK ABOUT CREATING CRISIS CAPACITY, UM, THAT IS MASHED BY OUR ABILITY TO MAKE PERMANENT HOUSING PLACEMENTS. 
          AND SO, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WE'RE OPENING UP NORTH BRIDGE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR HEAL. 
          UH, AND IT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, BUT WE HAVE NOT DETERMINED IN THE FUTURE, WHETHER THAT WOULD BE FOR HEAL ONLY, OR FOR THAT GENERAL POPULATION THAT MIGHT BE REFERRED AS MORE VULNERABLE OFFICE STREET. 
          BUT FOR HE, SOMETHING LIKE HEAL WHERE WE SAY, OKAY, IF OUR AVERAGE GETTING FOLKS INTO SHELTER, ENROLLED IN A PROGRAM AND HOUSED CONSERVATIVELY IS, IS THREE A, IS THREE MONTHS, RIGHT? THAT'S HOW LONG IT TAKES US. 
          THEN WE, AND WE'RE ONLY GOING TO USE THE FACILITY FOR HEAT, FOR HEAL. 
          THEN WE SHOULD HAVE CAPACITY TO PERMANENTLY REHOUSE FOUR TIMES THE CAPACITY OF THAT SHELTER, BECAUSE AT, I WAS, LET ME GO BACK TO, TO SOUTHBRIDGE, CAUSE IT IS FOR HEEL AND IT'S EASIER MATH, IT'S 75 ROOMS, RIGHT? IF WE KNOW THAT WITH RESOURCES AVAILABLE, WE CAN MOVE SOMEONE FROM A RIVAL TO HOUSING IN THREE MONTHS. 
          THEN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE. 
          SO WE DO THAT LIKE CLOCKWORK, AND HOPEFULLY WE GET FASTER. 
          SO WE SHOULD HAVE RAPID REHOUSING AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING RESOURCES FOR 300 PEOPLE, AT LEAST RIGHT. 
          TO MAKE BEST USE OF THAT FACILITY SO THAT IT IS TRULY SHELTER, UM, BRIDGE SHELTER. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO I THINK THERE IS, THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS TO BE HAD BOTH ABOUT IMMEDIACY, YOU KNOW, DANGER, UH, YOU KNOW, TO HEALTH AND SAFETY OF INDIVIDUALS WHO MAY BE GOING BACK INTO THE WOODS OR, YOU KNOW, OR CERTAINLY AT RISK OF CITATION. 
          UM, AND I, BUT ALSO THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SYSTEM THAT IS RIGHT-SIZED. 
          AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE THAT IT IS BOTH  CHOICE AND IT IS NOT AN EITHER OR, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE CAN AND WE'LL DO BOTH, BUT IT IS A RELATIVE INVESTMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S WAS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD IT GOT TO THE RIGHT SIZED ELEMENT IN THAT COMPONENT. 
          SO I HOPE YOU CAN EXPAND ON THAT TOMORROW BY DISCUSSION CHAIR. 
          THOSE ARE POSTED. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU, MARY. 
          I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          AND A LOT OF THIS, BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS REALLY DEPENDS ON WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE. 
          UM, I WANT TO JUST FOCUS IN A LITTLE BIT ON THEM. 
          SO WE DID GET A MEMO. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN A COUPLE OF MEMOS WITH CLASS, AND ONE OF THEM IS JULY 1ST AND THEN THE OTHER IS MAY 14. 
          AND SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THEM BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE SUCH A REASONABLE COST FIVE TO $10,000 FOR THE PALLET SHELTER. 
          YEAH. 
          OBVIOUSLY THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE IN PLACE TO PROVIDE RESTROOMS. UM, AND THEN SOME KIND OF MEAL FACILITATION, ENTITLEMENTS HAS COME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES. 
          CAN YOU TELL US EXACTLY WHAT ZONING, WHAT ZONING IS REQUIRED TO DO EITHER ONE OF THOSE, EITHER, EITHER THE TEMPORARY PALLET STRUCTURE TYPE THINGS OR THE TENTS C S ZONING IS MY UNDERSTANDING AND PORT JERRY RESTHAVEN IS, YOU KNOW, BITING HIS NAILS IF HE SEES ME TALKING ABOUT ZONING WITHOUT HIM PRESENT. 
          BUT WHEN I GO, GO AHEAD AND DO IT. 
          SO COMMERCIAL, VIRTUAL SERVICES IN THAT, UM, AND, AND THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THAT CAN BE, UM, FOUND IN SOME OF THE MIXED USE ZONING CATEGORIES AS WELL, RIGHT. 
          AS LONG AS IT HAS A COMMERCIAL USE. 
          UM, AND IT IS WITHIN THAT ZONING, UH, CAMPGROUND IS, UH, AN ALLOWABLE USE. 
          SO IT HAS TO BE COMMERCIAL AT PRESENT, CLEARLY OUR PARK GROUND. 
          I MEAN, OUR PARKLANDS ARE CLEARLY NOT COMMERCIAL. 
          UM, AND SOMETHING LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN ANOTHER ROUTE. 
          THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ANOTHER ROUTE, SHOULD WE HAVE UTILIZED THE PARKLANDS OR THE PUBLIC STONING, BUT THOSE WERE NOT, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS A POTENTIAL FOR A, UM, A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT. 
          UM, I WOULD NEED JERRY, I THINK, TO BACKUP ON THAT, LOOKING AT THOSE, THOSE REMAINING. 
          BUT THE, IN MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IN THE CODE CURRENTLY, THE ONE PLACE WHERE CURRENT CLEARLY CAMPING IS ALLOWED IS IN COMMERCIAL SERVICES. 
          AND THEREFORE, UH, AND, AND CAMPGROUND IS AN ALLOWABLE USE. 
          THERE ARE SOME OTHER PLACES THAT GET A LITTLE BIT GRAY ABOUT WHETHER IT'S SHELTER OR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, ET CETERA, BUT AGAIN, FOR CAMPING ITSELF, 
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COMMERCIAL SERVICES. 
          AND IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS CERTAINLY THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD IN ANY SCENARIO. 
          UM, WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A TEMPER, YOU KNOW, WE OFFER TEMPORARY USE PERMITS FOR OTHER, OTHER TYPES OF ACTIVITIES, UM, IN OUR CODE, BUT AN CAMPGROUND IS NOT ONE OF THEM. 
          SO IF YOU WISH TO NOT HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, TIED TO THAT ZONING ITSELF, BUT FOR THERE TO BE A TEMPORARY USE PROBLEM IS THAT, THAT IN AND OF ITSELF, AS I UNDERSTAND, IT WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH HAS ITS OWN COMPLEXITIES AND PROCESS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, AND MAYBE I'LL CIRCLE AROUND TO JERRY JUST TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          UM, SO MAYOR, I HAVE SOME REALLY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE DIFFERENT DOLLAR FIGURES. 
          CAN YOU GIVE, CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF LIKE, WHAT, WHAT THE TIME, LIKE, WHAT, WHAT WILL THEIR CONVERSATION, HOW DO YOU ENVISION TOMORROW'S CONVERSATION? WHAT HAVE THE SHOULD, SHOULD WITH REGARD TO ENCAMPMENTS IN PARTICULAR, WHAT DO YOU SEE OUR COUNCIL DISCUSSING TOMORROW? IS IT PRIMARILY THIS KINDS OF HIGH LEVEL POLICY QUESTIONS AND THE RELATIVE EXPENDITURES, OR DO YOU THINK THERE'LL BE TIME TO KIND OF GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY DETAILS ABOUT HOW WE, ABOUT WHAT COSTS WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH ANYONE WHO'S. 
          I HOPE WE CAN GET MORE INTO THE NITTY GRITTY OF THIS ISSUE AND PROBABLY ANY OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP BECAUSE OF THE ORDINANCE THAT GOES INTO EFFECT THE STATE LAW THAT GOES INTO EFFECT THE LAST STAGE OF THE ORDINANCE. 
          SO I THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY OUR OPPORTUNITY TO, TO ELEVATE THESE ISSUES FOR THE COMMUNITY, TO BE ABLE TO SEE IN HERE IN TERMS OF WHAT IT'S DOING. 
          AND AS YOU KNOW, YOU AND I BOTH HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS CONVERSATION GOING NOW FOR A MONTH AND A HALF. 
          I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS THE SHOT TO LAY IT ALL OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND MY HOPE IS WE LAY OUT ENOUGH FOR THERE TO BE A KNOWLEDGEABLE AND EDUCATED COMMUNITY CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ISSUE AS WE MOVE THROUGH AUGUST. 
          UM, AND THAT IS TOMORROW. 
          OKAY. 
          THEN I THINK, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MAYBE WE COULD JUST RAISE KIND OF USE THIS REMAINING TIME. 
          CAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE A HARD STOP HERE IN ONE MINUTE AND I KNOW MAY A PRETEND, UM, IS, IS, UM, OFF THE DYES, BUT COMING RIGHT BACK, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I CAN SHARE ONCE YOU LAY BACK AND SHARE SOME OF WHAT I SEE AS QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE UP TOMORROW? I'VE MADE IT, I HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES. 
          WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND HIGHLIGHT? SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT INTO THE COST WHEN IT CAME UP BEFORE IN OUR WORK SESSION. 
          I THINK WE HAD ASKED YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHICH OF THOSE COSTS IN THAT MAY MEMO WERE SITE BY SITE AND WHICH WERE SERVICES THAT EXTEND ACROSS. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE THAT OUR MORE RECENT MEMO KIND OF ADDRESSED THAT. 
          UM, THE, I AM INTERESTED TO KNOW BECAUSE IT, IT MATTERS FOR THE REASONS, YOU KNOW, GETTING BACK TO THE MAYOR'S QUESTION ABOUT WHERE ARE OUR BEST AS I'M SUMMARIZING IT. 
          THIS ISN'T EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, BUT WHAT I HEAR WHEN YOU ASK THAT QUESTION IS KIND OF WHAT ARE OUR BEST INVESTMENTS FOR ME, THAT ALSO DEPENDS ON SOME OF THESE OTHER ELEMENTS, WHICH ARE, UM, WHAT IS OUR CAPACITY AND CONGREGATE SHELTERS. 
          IS THAT GOING TO BE INCREASED HERE ANYTIME SOON? AND THE ANSWER TOMORROW MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE ANSWER WOULD HAVE BEEN TWO WEEKS AGO, BUT KIND OF WE'RE ON OUR WAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, I WAS STRUCK BY THE COST PER PARKING. 
          SO THERE WAS A, A BIT IN THE MORE RECENT MEMO ABOUT CITY OWNED, SAFE PARKING SITES AND THE ESTIMATED COST PER PARKING SIDE OF 80,000 JUST SEEMED EXTRAORDINARY TO ME. 
          AND SO IF THAT'S KIND OF ANOTHER AREA I'D LIKE TO DRILL DOWN ON TOMORROW, LIKE WHERE ARE THOSE COSTS FALLING? I MEAN, IF WE HAVE THE PARKING LOTS, I KNOW WALMART AND SOME OTHER STORES, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE CREATED THESE SAFE PARKING AREAS. 
          SO IT MUST BE ENTITIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE CREATING THAT NEED FOR SECURITY AND FOR WHATNOT, BUT NOT AMENITIES BECAUSE RESTROOMS AREN'T AMENITY, THEY'RE KIND OF A BASIC NEED, BUT, UM, IF YOU COULD HELP US UNDERSTAND KIND OF THE COP, THE ESTIMATES THERE, AND I'LL LEAVE IT THERE SO THAT OTHERS HAVE TIME, BUT THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE INITIAL KIND OF DETAIL LEVEL QUESTIONS THAT HELPED ME UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH HAS OUR, YOU KNOW, ANSWERED THAT FIRST QUESTION, HOW MUCH IS OUR REAL INVESTMENT IN THOSE ENCAMPMENTS? SO I, I APPRECIATE THAT, UM, CHAIR, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE, UM, SO WHAT WE WILL DO, I THINK IS ASKED BOTH PART AND A DSD AND AN HPD 
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TO BE PRESENT, UH, TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS AS THEY COME UP. 
          IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS, UM, AROUND WHETHER IT'S AROUND DESIGNATED ENCAMPMENTS OR, UH, ANY SORT OF, OF THE MORE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING, UH, ANY HEADS UP WOULD BE USEFUL, JUST SO WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          CAUSE, UM, AS, AS WELL DEMONSTRATED JUST A MOMENT AGO, I'M PROBABLY NOT YOUR BEST PERSON ON SET. 
          OH, YOU DID A GOOD TIME, BUT I WANT TO STAY WITHIN YOUR COMFORT LEVEL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE OTHERS ONE LAST QUESTION, BUT IT'S NOT ONE REALLY FOR PUBLIC SESSION. 
          I KNOW MANY OF OUR OFFICES PROBABLY FORWARDED TO YOU AS WE WERE GETTING FROM THE, UM, FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ABOUT DIFFERENT SITES. 
          IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOMEBODY CIRCLE AROUND BACK TO KIND OF GIVE US THE DISPOSITION OF THOSE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK AGAIN, THAT'S A, THAT'S NOT A CONVERSATION EVERYBODY GETS TO BE INVOLVED WITH, BUT I THINK FOR IF IT WAS A DIRECTOR MCNEELY WHO WAS PRIMARILY LEADING THAT UP, IF SHE COULD REACH OUT TO D ONE OR DO NINE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WENT THROUGH THESE SITES AND THEY WON'T WORK FOR THESE REASONS OR WERE PURSUING, YOU KNOW, JUST BE NICE TO HAVE THAT FOLLOW UP. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT, THAT, UM, FOR TOMORROW, I'M JUST NOW REALLY INTRIGUED BY THIS CONCEPT OF RIGHT-SIZING THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE ELEMENT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT FIT WITH THE SCALE OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOAL OF HOUSING 3000 PEOPLE OR THREE YEARS NEEDS A CORRESPONDING ELEMENT OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE ELEMENT TO IT. 
          SO KNOWING WHAT THAT SIZE WAS, BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A BIG QUESTION HERE AND TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON WHAT WE'LL DO AND NOT DO THAT MIGHT BE AN ACTUAL WAY FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY STAFF, EVERYONE PROVIDERS TO REALLY, UH, UH, ALIGN EVERYBODY'S VISION OF WHAT IT IS THAT HAPPENS. 
          RECOGNIZING THAT IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE JUST NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE PLACES FOR NOW ANY MORE THAN WE COULD TWO YEARS AGO, OR FOUR YEARS AGO OR 10 YEARS AGO. 
          AND WE JUST HAVE A MORAL OBLIGATION, I THINK, AS IS THE TIRE COUNCIL FIELDS, RIGHT OVER OUR STAFF, UM, TO, TO GET THROUGH THIS, THAT JUST AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AT A SCALE NECESSARY TO, TO ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY IN OUR HEART, IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD CONSIDERATIONS, MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? WHAT WE HAD, I THINK YOU WERE PROBABLY BACK WHEN WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, WHICH IS JUST A HIGHLIGHT OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS TOMORROW IN THE ENCAMPMENT CONVERSATION. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I, I THINK I WOULD JUST CONCUR WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED AND THEN I'VE ALREADY EXPRESSED SOME OF MY PRIMARY CONCERNS. 
          UM, UH, IF I NEED TO HIGHLIGHT THEM AGAIN, UM, UH, A REAL DEEP DIVE INTO OUR CONVERSATION AROUND MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS, UM, AND RESOURCES SURROUNDING THAT. 
          I THINK, UH, AN ADDITIONAL MEASURE THERE THAT I KNOW W IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A STATE LEVEL CONVERSATION, AND MAYBE EVEN BEYOND THAT, BUT I MEAN, OUR ABILITY TO COMMIT PEOPLE, I MEAN, PEOPLE WHO WILL NEVER, EVER BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. 
          UM, I, I KNOW THAT FOR SOME FOLKS, THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT REALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, SEND THEM, UH, TO, UH, A DARK PLACE WE'LL CALL IT. 
          UM, WHEN IT COMES TO UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS, IT'S THE ARCHETYPE OF THE UNPREDICTABLE, UNRELIABLE, VOLATILE PERSON EXPERIENCING DEEP, DEEP MENTAL HEALTH CRISES. 
          UM, I JUST, I MEAN, IT ASH, IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT. 
          I MEAN, LIKE THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES I'M JUST LIKE, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING? Y'ALL LIKE, IF WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO, AND IF WE DON'T AS A COMMUNITY, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DIG DEEP INTO RECOGNIZING WHEN THERE ARE FOLKS WHO JUST WON'T EVER BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. 
          UM, I KNOW THERE'S THAT. 
          AND THEN THERE'S THE TRASH. 
          UM, BOB NIX IS HELPING ME WORK ON SOMETHING RIGHT NOW. 
          UH, IF FOR NO OTHER REASON, I, UH, I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY BY WAY OF BEING MARRIED TO A FIREFIGHTER. 
          I KNOW HOW OFTEN THEY MAKE, UH, CALLS TO HOARDER HOUSES, HOUSES FULL OF TRASH THAT ARE STRAIGHT UP KINDLING THAT SET THEIR HOUSES ON FIRE THE HOUSES ADJACENT TO THEM ON FIRE THAT PUT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS IN SERIOUS, SEVERE DANGER. 
          BUT THAT WOULD BE THE SECOND THING THAT I THINK REALLY, UM, CONCERNS, RIGHTFULLY CONCERNS CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND ON THE CONVERSATION. 
          AND SO WE'RE NOT JUST SAYING BECAUSE YOU'RE UNHOUSED AND YOUR TRASH IS VISIBLE, BUT YOU'RE HOUSED AND YOUR TRASH IS INVISIBLE 
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UNTIL OF COURSE WE PUT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AT RISK BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PUT THAT FIRE OUT AND YOU'RE GOING TO BURN YOUR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE DOWN. 
          I JUST, I, I WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH TO, I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND ON THESE CONVERSATIONS, TO MAKE THEM MORE, WHOLE MORE FULL, MORE, LESS OTHERING. 
          AND SO, YEAH, I LOOK FORWARD TO TOMORROW, BUT THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          I APPRECIATE, UM, WHAT A TIGHT MEETING CONDUCT. 
          YOU DON'T PLAY ANY GAMES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SORRY. 
          I, AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE PROBABLY DO NEED TO WRAP. 
          UM, I KNOW WE ALL HAVE HAVE DIFFERENT COMMITMENTS AND WE'RE ALL WORKING ON BUDGET AND DIANA, THANK YOU. 
          UM, ACM, HIDDEN HOWARD, THANK YOU FOR BEING ON THIS CALL. 
          UH, DIRECTOR STIRRUP. 
          I KNOW YOU ALL ARE WORKING. 
          PARDON ME, WORKING HARD ON IMPLEMENTING THE SOLUTIONS THIS WEEK, AS WELL AS ON BUDGET AND PROBABLY LOTS OF OTHER THINGS IN ADDITION. 
          SO THANK YOU ALL. 
          AND THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES. 
          WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW. 
          CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
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