* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] DO YOU [CALL TO ORDER] HAVE A QUORUM? SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A BUSY AGENDA TONIGHT. THIS IS THE PARKS AND REC POOL. THE PARKS AND RECREATION. THE BOARD MEETING IS AUGUST 24TH IS FIVE, 2:00 PM. AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND CALL THE HOLD THE ROLE. SO, UH, VICE CHAIR, DIPLOMA, RESIDENT, UM, BOARD MEMBER RINALDI, PRESENT BOARD MEMBER DICARLO, PRESENT BOARD MEMBER FAUST, HUFFMAN BOARD MEMBER BERNARD PRESENT, OR MEMBER TAYLOR, NOT YET. AND BOARD MEMBER COTTON SEIBEL PRESENT. PERFECT. OKAY. SO I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED BEFORE WE DO GET STARTED. I WANTED TO, UM, TO INTRODUCE, UM, TWO PEOPLE, ONE, UM, ONE ACTUALLY HAS, UM, BEEN WITH US AT OUR MEETINGS FOR A WHILE NOW AND KIND OF, UM, IN VITRO. SO I THINK SAMMY, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO SHOW US A PICTURE? OKAY. MAYBE. YEP. OR PULLING IT UP. JUST GIVE US A SECOND. OKAY, PERFECT. ACTUALLY START SPEAKERS. CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE SURE TO MUTE YOURSELF? HUH. SO THERE WE GO, EVERYONE. SO CONGRATULATIONS TO BOARD MEMBERS TO CARLA. SHE IS UNCERTAIN FROM, UM, UM, DAISY DECARLO, WHO IS OBVIOUSLY SO ADORABLE. SO CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN WHAT ANNA ABOUT A MONTH, UH, TOMORROW WILL BE THREE WEEKS. YES. SO KUDOS TO YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH THIS. SHE MIGHT MAKE AN A, MIGHT MAKE HER ZOOM DEBUT LATER. YEAH. OH GOOD. THANK YOU. AND THE OTHER PERSON I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE IS OUR NEWEST BOARD MEMBER, AND WE'RE JUST THRILLED TO, UM, TO HAVE A NEW BOARD MEMBER FROM DISTRICT SIX, WHICH IS LISA HUFFMAN. WELCOME LISA TO YOUR FIRST MEETING. AND I'D LOVE FOR YOU TO JUST SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT YOURSELF, IF YOU WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY INTRODUCE YOURSELF. SURE. THANKS. UM, I'M THRILLED TO JOIN YOU ALL. AND, UH, THIS IS MY FIRST EFFORT AT JOINING, UH, LOCAL ISSUES WITH CITY OF AUSTIN. SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN IN AUSTIN FOR 22 YEARS AND OF COURSE, LIKE ALL OF US JUST LOVED OUR PARKS AND, AND UH, JUST HELD THEM IN HIGH ESTEEM AND WE HAVE A LOVELY CITY. SO I'M JUST THRILLED TO BE WORKING ON THIS, THIS BOARD WITH YOU ALL. UH, MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE A LITTLE SOFTWARE COMPANY AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO FOR A LIVING. AND WE HAVE TWO ADULT DAUGHTERS THAT ARE OFF AND THRIVING IN THE WORLD. SO WE'LL ALSO, WE ARE REALLY THRILLED THAT YOU'RE HERE. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE WE HAD SOMEBODY FROM DISTRICT SIX. SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE THERE TO REPRESENT YOUR COMMUNITY. AND THANKS FOR, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. OKAY. SO [CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL] I'M GOING TO MOVE ON. I THINK WE HAVE, UM, WE DO HAVE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. I THINK WE HAVE ONE. WHY DON'T YOU CLARIFY FOR ME, SEND ME, BUT I THINK WE HAVE ONE PERSON TO SPEAK CHAIR LEWIS, AS A FRIENDLY REMINDER, WE TAKE ALL REGISTERED SPEAKERS AT THE START OF THE MEETING. SO WE'LL DO A GENERAL CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AND THEN WE'LL TAKE ALL OF THE SPEAKERS FOR ALL OF THE ITEMS. OKAY. OKAY. AND COULD YOU PLEASE REMIND US, UM, REMIND ME HOW MANY SPEAKERS WE DO HAVE WE HAVE ONE GENERAL CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AT THREE MINUTES, AND THEN I THINK LAST COUNT I HAD 22 SPEAKERS FOR THREE DIFFERENT ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ZILKER CAFE, UH, THE HANCOCK SURVEY AND THE CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK PLAN. OKAY. SO, AND WE, I KNOW EVERY ONE OF US ON THE BOARD, I FEEL COMFORTABLE SPEAKING FOR EVERYONE. I REALLY ALWAYS JUST THRILLED THAT PEOPLE TAKE THE TIME TO COME IN AND SHARE THEIR CONCERNS BEFORE US. AND WE'RE REALLY, REALLY GLAD TO HEAR FROM THEM. WE DO HAVE A [00:05:01] REALLY BUSY AGENDA TODAY. SO, UM, WE MAY HAVE TO CUT BACK A LITTLE. I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE CUT BACK A LITTLE BIT ON TIME. I DID WANT THE PEOPLE WHO CAME TO SPEAK ON THE CUP TO KNOW THAT WE WILL NOT BE VOTING ON THE CUP RECOMMENDATION TODAY. WE, UM, WE KIND OF GOT SOME LAST MINUTE. UM, WE WERE TOLD KIND OF AT THE LAST MINUTE THAT WE NEEDED TO ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY, TODAY WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CUP RECOMMENDATION FOR NEXT OTHER NEXT MEETING. SO I, UM, WHICH IS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SO, UM, YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME AND SPEAK TODAY, EVEN THOUGH WE WON'T BE DISCUSSING THAT WHERE AS I SAID, WE ARE ALWAYS JUST ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, AND WE DO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO BACK AND SPEAK AT THE, ARE THE UPCOMING SEPTEMBER MEETING WILL ON SEPTEMBER 28TH. WELL, WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA AS FAR AS I KNOW WE, UM, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU THEN TOO, BUT I AM GOING TO JUST MOVE THAT WE CAN, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE REALLY A LOT ON OUR AGENDA. WE DID NOT MEET IN JULY AND IT'S A PRETTY PACKAGE, GENUINE WITH A LOT OF, UM, ISSUES THAT I THINK ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS WILL HAVE, UM, A LOT TO SAY ABOUT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE, INSTEAD OF GOING WITH THREE MINUTES THAT WE I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE ASK OUR SPEAKERS TO JUST SPEAK FOR 90 SECONDS. SO COULD I GET A SECOND ON THAT SECOND? DID I GET, YES. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR, DIPLOMA ALL. UM, SO, AND JUST, SORRY, CHAIR, JUST TO REINFORCE, I MEAN, ANYBODY WHO CAN SPEAK AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. IT WILL PROBABLY ALLOW US TO HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING THROUGH OUR AGENDA AND NOT IN TO GO GET TO ITEMS. OTHERWISE WE WILL BE CUT OFF ON TIME. THANK YOU. AND CAN WE GET A CLARIFICATION ON WHAT TIME FINAL CALL CUTOFF IS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY? HARD STOP IS 9:30 PM TONIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IF WE COULD JUST PLEASE GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THE MOTION TO LIMIT THE COMMUNICATION TO 90 SECONDS ALL IN FAVOR AND I'M IN FAVOR. THIS IS MINA RENALDI. OKAY. AND DEAN, I THINK YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE VIDEO ON, BUT I COULD BE WRONG. I'M HAVING ISSUES WITH THAT MOMENTARILY. YEAH. THAT'S WHY I GOT YA. THANKS. THANKS. OKAY, SO SAMMY, CAN YOU SEE EVERYBODY? I DO NOT SEE BOARD MEMBER FAST. I WASN'T SURE WHAT SHE WAS DOING. YES OR NO. REMEMBER BUYING AGAINST. OKAY. SO WE HAVE, UM, ONE VOTE AGAINST AND THE REST, UM, IN FAVOR. SO THE MOTION I BELIEVE PASSES IS IN ANY, DID ANYBODY ABSTAIN? OKAY. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UM, ENGAGE IN CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AND VICE-CHAIR DIPLOMA. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU. OKAY. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND OUR, OUR, OUR ONLY PERSON UNDER GENERAL CITIZEN'S COMMUNICATION IS KEVIN RAINA'S WITH AUSTIN ROWING CLUB. GOOD EVENING, KEVIN. AND JUST TO REMINDER, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS. OKAY. THANK YOU. HELLO. MY NAME IS KEVIN . I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE AUSTIN RUNNING CLUB. FIRST. I'M VERY HAPPY TO TELL YOU. WE CELEBRATE OUR 40TH ANNIVERSARY. THIS YEAR. ARC IS EXTREMELY PROUD OF THE 40 YEARS. WE HAVE PROVIDED COMMUNITY BENEFITS TO AUSTIN AS A NONPROFIT CORPORATION OPERATING ON LADY BIRD LAKE REGARDING THE NEXT 40 YEARS. THIS IS AN AREA OF CONCERN AND ALSO AN AREA OF SIGNIFICANT OPPORTUNITY. I BELIEVE THE DESTRUCTION OF THE LAW CREEK BOATHOUSE FOR THE TRINITY STREET BRIDGE CROSSING OVER LADY BIRD LAKE IS A ONCE IN A GENERATION OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL AUSTINITES WORKING TOGETHER. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PUBLIC BENEFIT TO ALL CITIZENS OF AUSTIN. BY CONNECTING THE OUTREACH SERVICES WE PROVIDE WITH MASS TRANSIT, THE CHALLENGE IN BENEFITING COMMUNITIES IN NEED IS HOW TO GET THE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY OR THE COMMUNITY, TO THE SERVICES CAP. METRO SOLVES THAT PROBLEM. I PROPOSE THE PART LEADERSHIP AND THE PART FOR THE CREATION OF A NEW COMMITTEE AT YOUR NEXT SPECIAL MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, THE SOLE FOCUS OF THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE TO DEVELOP THE PLANS AND VISIONS FOR THE FUTURE [00:10:01] REPLACEMENT OF THE BOATHOUSE COMMITTEE WOULD REPORT BACK TO THE PARK BOARD. BY THE END OF NOVEMBER, THE PARTICIPANTS IN THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE AUSTIN ROWING CLUB PARK, CAT, METRO ATP, AND OTHER ENTITIES. THE PARK BOARD SEES FIT. THE TIME IS NOW TO DEVELOP THE PLANS AND VISIONS TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE WONDERFUL, DO SOMETHING WONDERFUL FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND CENTRAL TEXAS ON LADY BIRD LAKE. IT WOULD BE A TRAVESTY TO WASTE THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HERNANDEZ. ALL RIGHT. AND OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS OUR NEXT, THIS IS COMMUNICATION IS ASSOCIATED WITH ITEM B3 ON THE ZIPPER CAFE. THE FIRST PERSON THAT WE HAVE LISTED AS DANIEL JANUS, AS OPPOSED, UH, MR. YANNIS, YAMAHA'S SORRY. LET'S BE ON. IS, ARE YOU PRESENT? AND MR. YANAS MAY HAVE CHOSEN TO, UH, SPEAK AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING, WHICH WE APPRECIATE, UH, HE'S STILL IN THE QUEUE. LET LET'S GET IT. WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON GETTING HIM ON MUTED. I THINK HIS PHONE NUMBER IN HERE. OKAY. THEN WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL WAIT, DANIEL, CAN YOU HEAR US? YOU SHOULD. I DIDN'T SAY THAT I WOULD COME BACK. I'M HERE TO SPEAK RIGHT NOW. I APPRECIATE IT. MR. YANNIS, GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS. I HEARD THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, WELL, UH, AS FAR AS THE, THE BARTON CREEK CAFE, I'M CATEGORICALLY OPPOSED TO THEM SELLING ALCOHOL, UH, RIGHT BY ZILKER PARK WITH FAMILIES AND EVERYTHING. AND, AND IN GENERAL, I'M OPPOSED TO ANY ALCOHOL SALES IN ANY OF OUR PARKS. UH, WE LIVE WITH A CONSTANT STRUGGLE OF PUSHING BACK THE ALCOHOL CULTURE THAT EXISTS IN AUSTIN. UH, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT IN OUR PARKS. SO REALLY, UM, BEYOND THAT, THERE'S NOT MUCH I CAN SAY, BUT I WILL ALSO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE ONE BOARD MEMBER WHO VOTED AGAINST LIMITING OUR TIME TO SPEAK. UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR SERVICE, ALL OF YOUR SERVICE, BUT WE IN THE PUBLIC, UH, UH, HAVE, UM, YOU, YOU NEED TO GIVE US AMPLE TIME TO SPEAK. UH, ALWAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I COME FROM A PLACE IN A TIME WHEN CITY HALL YOU CAN HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. AND SO ANYWAY, I WON'T TAKE UP ANY OFF TIME. UM, LIKE I SAY, I'M CATEGORICALLY OPPOSED TO THE, UH, LIQUOR ALCOHOL SALES, UH, AT THE CAFE AND ANY PARK IN GENERAL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. I, KIMBERLY MCNEALY, I'M SENIOR A LONG TIME. DON'T SEE YOU ANYWAY, BUT HI, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH, RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. YANEZ. SO OUR NEXT SPEAKER, EMMA, GIVE THE NEXT THREE JUST SO THEY CAN BE LINED UP IN THE QUEUE. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH JENNIFER RUBENFELD THEN MEGAN MEISENBACH AND THEN SAM MARK. SO JENNIFER RABELL, UH, ROBIN ROBIN HALL. ARE YOU, ARE YOU HERE? OKAY. YES. HI, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. UM, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES TO CONSIDER WHEN DABBLING WITH THE IDEA OF TURNING PUBLIC PARK GREEN AND WATER SPACES INTO FOR-PROFIT ENTERTAINMENT EXPERIENCES AS A NATIVE AUSTINITE AND BARTON SPRINGS YEAR ROUND SWIMMER, I URGE ALL WHO LOVE THE AREA TO BE STEWARDS OF THE HISTORY AND CULTURE OF LOCAL PART AND BURN SPRINGS POOL. ACCORDING TO RECENT GUIDANCE FROM THE CDC, ALCOHOL SHOULD NOT BE CONSUMED DURING JUST BEFORE SWIMMING OR WHILE SUPERVISING CHILDREN. UM, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT MANY HOTELS, TUBING, BUSINESSES, THERE'S AMUSEMENT PARKS, RESTAURANTS PLAY PLAYSCAPES AND WATER PARKS ALLOW ALCOHOL, BUT THEY ARE FOR PROFIT BUSINESSES THAT REQUIRE WAIVERS. IN MANY INSTANCES, THESE ARE NOT PUBLICLY FUNDED PARKS SUPPORTERS OF THIS MEASURE SAY IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A COLD BEER OR A GLASS OF WINE WITH FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND OTHERS AT PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, UM, THAT OFFER BEER AND WINE. THEY GO ON TO SAY THAT DRINKING HAPPENS IF YOU CAN'T BEAT THEM, JOIN THEM. BUT OUR RESPONSE IS THAT THESE ARE DESIRES, WHICH ARE NOT COMMUNITY NEEDS THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY, SPIRIT AND LEGACY OF THE AREA. DRINKING HAS BECOME A CULTURE OF AUSTIN APPEALING TO STUDENTS 20 AND 30 SOMETHINGS, EVEN YOUNG PARENTS, BUT ZILKER PARK AND BARTON SPRINGS IS FOR EVERYONE. THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE AS A SOCCER PARK TO BE WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHERE DRINKING IS PERMITTED, AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES. UM, THIS IS PROPOSED NEXT TO THE CAB TO THE TRAIN TRACKS NEXT TO BARTON SPRINGS POOL AND THE PLAYGROUND, THE POOL STAFF SPEAKER, YOUR TIME IS ELAPSED OKAY. WAS ABOUT. YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. NEXT EAKER [00:15:01] IS MEGAN MEISENBACH IS NEGATIVE. MEISENBACH ARE YOU THEN? OKAY. MEGAN, ARE YOU THERE SAMMY? CAN YOU SEE, UH, MEGAN ON THE PHONE? NO, BOTH THE AB TECH AND I ARE SCROLLED IN REAL QUICK AFTER SAM, AFTER MEGAN, THEN THERE SAM MARTIN LEE, ANN RONSON, GREG NASAR. OKAY. I DON'T SEE SAN MARTIN'S NUMBER IN HERE AGAIN. SAM MARTIN, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR MEGAN AND MEGAN. MEISENBACH YEAH. MEGAN IS NEXT. ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT LEANNE BRUNSON? IS SHE QUICKLY ACCESSIBLE AND CONTINUE TO LOOK FORWARD TO THE OTHER SPEAKERS? WE DON'T SEE LEANNE'S NUMBER REAL QUICK, EITHER. OKAY. ABOUT, UH, MR. AND WHAT SHE NEEDS. YOU GET THE OTHER, SO YOU CAN LET ME KNOW CRAIG NASAL OR IS NOT ON THE LIST EITHER THAT WE CAN SEE. ALL RIGHT. UM, MR. SCOTT, COBB AND MS. PATRICIA BAALBEK AND MS. DEBBIE LOOMIS ARE THE NEXT THREE. I'M SORRY. WHAT'S THAT? MR. COBB, IS THAT YOU? YES, MA'AM FROM HERE. OKAY. RAY, THANK YOU, MR. COBB. GLAD TO HAVE YOU GO AHEAD. SORRY. WE'LL JUST TRYING TO JUST CALL HIM LATE, BUT ANYHOW, MY NAME IS SCOTT. UH, I'M A LIFEGUARD AT BARTON SPRINGS AND I'M TALKING TO YOU A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. I JUST CONNECT IT. SO, UM, I SPOKE ON THIS ISSUE TO THIS BOARD IN JUNE WHEN THE PROPOSAL WAS DEFEATED AND I FIND IT RATHER DISTURBING THAT THE ISSUE WAS NOT CONSIDERED UPON THE OUTCOME OF THAT VOTE. THE LANGUAGE AND CITY LAW CLEARLY SAYS THAT NO CONSIDERATION BY THE LAND USE COMMISSION MAY TAKE PLACE WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD, WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN IN THIS ISSUE. THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN ARE REPRESENTED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AND THE PARKS AND BOARD HELD VOTES. THAT SHOULD BE VALID. MY QUESTION NOW IS HOW THE CITY ATTORNEY'S REPRESENTING THE ENTRANCE OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD AND GETTING INVOLVED AFTER THE LAST BOAT, WE CANNOT AS A SOCIETY, JUST IGNORE THE RESULTS OF VOTES WHEN WE DO NOT LIKE THE OUTCOME. AS SOME PEOPLE TRIED TO DO LAST NOVEMBER, DON'T IGNORE YOUR LAST VOTE AND PUSH THE ISSUE FORWARD IS NOT HOW OUR MUNICIPAL DEMOCRACY SHOULD WORK. WE NEED TO RESPECT THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. SO I URGE EVERYONE TO PUT IT INTO THIS PROCESS WITH ANOTHER VOTE, NO ON MAKING THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, INCLUDING THOSE PEOPLE WHO VOTED THEIR CONSCIOUS LAST TIME AND GO TO, YES, THAT'S FINE. YOU GO. YES, LAST TIME. BUT I ASKED YOU TO RECONSIDER BECAUSE OF THIS PROCESS OF BRINGING IT UP AFTER IT'S ALREADY BEEN DEFEATED FOR THERE TO BE. NO. THANKS. RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. COP. RIGHT NEXT WEEK. PATRICIA IS MS. BELL BACK HERE? YES, WE THINK SHE IS PATRICIA, IF YOU WANT TO UNMUTE. OKAY. UM, I THOUGHT I DID UNMUTE WHILE YOU'RE UN-MUTED. NOW WE'RE HAPPY THAT YOU'RE HERE WITH US AND YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS. EXCELLENT, GREAT. WELL, I PLAN ON THREE MINUTES. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO CUT ME IN HALF, SO HERE'S WHAT I WAS. MY NAME IS PATRICIA BOBEK. I'M A HYDRO-GEOLOGIST AND I HAVE BEEN AN AUSTIN RESIDENT AND SWIMMER SINCE 1978. I AM A CAMP, THE SALE OF ALCOHOL [00:20:01] SNACKS BAR. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ALCOHOL SALES STUFF, CLOSE TO THE POOL. AND ESPECIALLY AT THE POOL ENTRANCE FEAR ALREADY FINDS ITS WAY INTO THE POOL. I OFTEN SEE BEER CANS IN POOLSIDE, TRASH CANS. DURING MY MORNING SWIM THERE IN WINE SALES WILL ENCOURAGE MORE BROWN BAG BEER INTO THE POOL. I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT DRINKING ADJACENT TO THE PARKING LOT. I CAN ENVISION A DRIVER BACKING UP AND RUNNING OVER A SMALL CHILD. I BACKED INTO MY GARAGE DOOR AFTER DRINKING ONE GLASS OF WINE. SO I KNOW ACCIDENTS HAPPEN. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY INJURED OR DEAD CHILDREN. THEIR PARENTS GREASE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY. AND THIRDLY, ALCOHOL MAKES LESS CARDS, JOBS, MORE DISCOUNTS. ALCOHOL ENCOURAGES THE SETTING ASIDE OF INHIBITIONS. NASCAR DRINKERS ARE LIKELY TO PUSH BACK AND MAYBE EVEN BULLY LIFEGUARDS, WHOSE JOB IT IS TO KEEP THEM OUT. IT'S NOT FAIR TO TEENAGE EMPLOYEES TO BE PUT IN THIS POSITION. AND SPEAKING OF INHIBITIONS, WE ALREADY HAVE A BEHAVIOR PROBLEM. WOMEN TELL ME ABOUT MEN MASTURBATING WHILE WATCHING THEM EXERCISE, LESS TRADITION, MORE INTIMIDATION AND RESPECT. SO PEOPLE DON'T WANT ALCOHOL AT SNACK BARS. AND I SUGGEST THAT MY FELLOW HOOSIER ANDREW JACKSON, ZILKER DOESN'T WANT IT THERE EITHER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. RIGHT. THE NEXT SPEAKER WE HAVE IS, UH, MR. KING, IT IS DAVID ON THE PHONE OR D I MEAN, I HAVE A NOTE THAT YOU SAID THAT HE'S, HE'S GOING TO COME TO NEXT. THANK YOU. YES. HE HAD INDICATED THAT HE WAS TRAVELING TONIGHT AND I DO BELIEVE, UH, DEBBIE LOOMIS, WHO IS NEXT ON THE LIST IS IN THE QUEUE. I SEE HER. PERFECT. WELL, GO AHEAD AND LET'S LET MS. LOOMIS ON DEBBIE. ARE YOU THERE? LET'S LUPUS. OKAY. THEN AFTER MS. LUPUS, MS. LOOMIS WILL BE ROBYN BRADFORD, CLARK HANCOCK. AND THEN, UH, MR. ROY WAYLAID, DEBBIE LOOMIS. CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF? WE SEE YOU IN THE QUEUE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S UH, ONCE YOU WORK ON DEBBIE, WHILE WE GO TO ROBIN RADFORD. OKAY. WE DO NOT SEE ROBIN'S NUMBER IN THE QUEUE. YEAH. CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. IS THIS MS. LOOMIS? I DON'T KNOW. WHAT'S WRONG. I'M TRYING TO TALK. YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU. GREAT. IS THIS MISS LUMENS? YOU CAN HEAR ME. YES. YES. MA'AM. THIS IS VICE-CHAIR. IS THIS MS. LOOMIS. OKAY, GREAT. UM, YEAH. ANYWAY, I'VE BEEN OKAY. I DO NOT REMEMBER IF OKAY, SAMMY, WE GOT, WE GOT A COUPLE OF GOING ON HERE SO I CAN HEAR THAT CONVERSATION, MS. LOOMIS, ARE YOU THERE? CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. I CAN HEAR YOU, BUT WONDERFUL. WHEN I LOOK AT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH ME ON THE PHONE, SO I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. IT'S CAUSE THERE'S A SLIGHT DELAY. SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. YOU ARE RIGHT NOW. WE'RE UH, THIS IS VICE-CHAIR DEPALMA AND WE ARE READY. WE ARE ALL LISTENING TO THE PARKS BOARD MEMBERS, ANXIOUSLY WAITING FOR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. AND SO YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS. IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND GETS AND GO FOR IT. THAT BE GREAT. OKAY. BEEN SWIMMING AT BARTON SPRINGS SINCE 1975. I REALLY DON'T WANT ALCOHOL SOLD, UH, THERE. AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THE LIVES CARDS NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOBS WITHOUT DEALING WITH THAT. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE MS. BRADFORD, ROBIN BRADFORD ON THE PHONE? VICE CHAIR. WE DON'T SEE HER IN THE QUEUE OF COLORS. ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT MR. UH, CLARK HANCOCK US I'M HERE. CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. YOU HAVE [00:25:01] 90 SECONDS. OKAY. MY NAME IS CLARK HANCOCK. I'M PRESIDENT OF SAVE BARTON CREEK ASSOCIATION. UH, WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS PERMIT. WE APPRECIATE THAT THIS HAS BEEN POOR PUSHED OFF FOR ANOTHER MONTH, BUT I ASKED THAT YOU ALL DURING THAT MONTH, PLEASE LOOK AT THE MATERIALS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO YOU BY VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE SPCA AND REVIEW THAT, UH, WE CAN READ THAT OFF THE RIDE RIGHT AWAY, BUT YOU'RE ALL WELCOME TO READ THAT AS WELL. THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT IS BARTON SPRINGS HAS A HISTORY OF CREATING BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE TO USE IT FROM THE 1920S. WHEN 10 CENTS ENTRY FEE WAS, WAS INSTITUTED TO KEEP OUT PEOPLE THAT COULDN'T AFFORD IT BARTON SPRINGS, WHILE IT'S A UNIFYING PLACE FOR MOST OF AUSTIN, THAT IS ALSO A VERY, A PLACE THAT HAS BEEN DIVISIVE. AND IT'S ACTIVELY WORKED TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT BY BRINGING IN ALCOHOL AND THAT LEVEL OF FOOD ENTERTAINMENT TO BARTON SPRINGS. YOU ARE AGAIN CREATING A PLACE THAT IS NOT OPEN TO ALL OF AUSTIN. SO I ASKED THAT YOU SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED, BUT THEY DO. I BELIEVE THAT I BELIEVE YOU'RE OUT OF TIME. MR. HANCOCK, THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING SURE THAT BARTON SPRINGS HAS LIMITED, UH, REMOVES LIMITATIONS FOR BARRIERS FOR PEOPLE TO USE IT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER, MR. ROY WHALEY, VICE CHAIR. HE IS AN ACCUSED OF, WE'LL JUST TAKE A SECOND FOR HIM TO GET ON MUTED IN CABINET. AND THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND HIT THE TIMER BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS BEING DONE RIGHT. IT IS BEING DONE HERE AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR IT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET IT. ROY WHALEY, ARE YOU ON THE LINE AFTER MR. WALEY IS MR. KEITH CREIGHTON. OKAY. WE WILL CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO MAKE SURE ANYBODY ELSE STILL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. I THINK KEITH MIGHT'VE DROPPED OFF. UM, WE DON'T HAVE HIM IN THE LIST RIGHT NOW. WHAT ABOUT, WHO DO YOU HAVE? WHO W NOW THIS PART, WHO DO WE USE? WHICH NUMBERS DO WE SEE ANYBODY FOR? B3? YES. I FOUND ALL THREE FOR B THROUGH, UH, I'M SORRY. BEFORE ALL THREE OF THEM. I HAVE IDENTIFIED IN THE LIST. OKAY. AND IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE FOR B3? NOT THAT I, NOT THAT I CAN SEE, I'M GOING TO SCAN THROUGH REAL QUICK. OKAY. OKAY. SO IF, UH, MS. MEISENBACH OR MR. WHALEY, UM, MR. NASER, I BELIEVE YOU ALL MAY HAVE MY CELL PHONE. YOU FEEL FREE TO TEXT ME REAL QUICK AND IF YOU ARE ON STILL WAITING, ALL RIGHT, LET ME GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON BECAUSE OF THE TIME WE HAVE, WE CAN ALWAYS FIGURE SOMETHING OUT ITEM BEFORE GETTING TO HANCOCK GOLF COURSE. AND THE THREE FOLKS WE HAVE THIS AGENDA ITEM IS KEVIN MCKINNEY COHEN. UH, WHY IS BIZARRE? AND SO MR. MCKINNEY, ARE YOU THERE? YES, I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US. WE CAN HEAR YOU. YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I'M A HOMEOWNER HOMEOWNER IN THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 26 YEARS. I'VE BEEN, AND I'M SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENING OVER THERE AT HANCOCK, UM, IS ALL ABOUT MONEY RIGHT NOW THAT HANCOCK IS MAKING MONEY, UH, OVER $400,000 IN REVENUE IN REVENUE IN JUST THE FIRST 10 MONTHS, THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND THIS IS WITHOUT ANY OF THE YEAR MILLION DOLLARS THAT YOU GUYS THOUGHT WAS NECESSARY TO MAKE IT PROFITABLE. HOW COME IT WAS LOSING MONEY IN THE PAST? BASICALLY IT WAS BECAUSE FOR YEARS AND YEARS IT WAS UNWANTED AND IT WAS BASICALLY A BAD PRODUCT. NOBODY WOULD REALLY WANT TO PAY MONEY TO PLAY GOLF THERE. SO WHAT HAS CHANGED [00:30:01] THE CITY INVESTED IN 2014 AND THE RECLAIMED WATER, WHICH HAS REALLY TURNED THINGS AROUND AND GOT THINGS HEADING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, BUT IT'S TAKEN YEARS FOR THE HANCOCK TO LOSE ITS BAD REPUTATION HAS KIND OF A YUCKY GOLF COURSE. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A NEW POPULATION THAT ONLY KNOWS IT FOR WHAT IT IS NOW. A BEAUTIFUL, AFFORDABLE, CHALLENGING WALKABLE, HISTORIC GOLF COURSE THEY'LL KNOW IT AS THAT GOOD DOG PRODUCT. THERE'S ALSO NEW MAJOR TRENDS IN GOLF, WALKING, AND HANCOCK IS A PERFECT PLACE FOR WALKING. THERE'S A NEW STAFF WORKING OVER THERE, COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY PAYING AND THE NUMBERS ARE SHOWING THIS AND WILL YOU HAVE MY ORGANIZATION? THE HANCOCK GOLF COURSE CONSERVANCY IS COMMITTED TO FUNDRAISING AND ADVOCATING THROUGH THE PARKS FOUNDATION. AND NOW THAT HANCOCK HAS A PRODUCT THAT ALSO NIGHTS ARE WANTING AND HAPPY TO PAY FOR WORK. DON'T CHANGE IT. DON'T SHORTEN IT. DON'T TAKE AWAY FROM IT. KEEP THE HISTORIC NINE HOLE INTACT, OR YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF BACK WITH A BAD PRODUCT THAT NOBODY PAY FOR. IT'S AN RDC, THERE'S A TRAIL, THE REC CENTER. THERE'S A PLAYSCAPE THERE'S DUCK FIELDS. THERE'S BASKETBALL. IT'S A PERFECT FIT FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S PEACEFUL. IT'S CLEAN GENERATIONS OF WILDLIFE, AND IT'S A PIECE OF AUSTIN HISTORY THAT ONCE IT'S GONE, YOU WON'T GET IT BACK. AND COCK HAS PASSED ALL THE TESTS. THE SURVEY SHOWS. I APPRECIATE IT. THAT WAS 90 SECONDS. NEXT SPEAKER COHEN, UH, DELINQUENCY. YEAH. HI THERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS. GREAT. THANK YOU. SO I'M PRESIDENT OF THE HANCOCK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE HANCOCK GOLF COURSE IS A TREASURED PUBLIC AMENITY CONTAINED ENTIRELY WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WE'RE INTERESTED TO SEE THE SURVEY PRESENTATION AND NEXT STEPS, BUT IN PREPARATION FOR THAT, UM, OUR ASSOCIATION ADOPTED A STATEMENT SHARED WITH ALL THE MEMBERS IN FAVOR OF A FEW DIFFERENT COMPONENTS, SUPPORTING BUDGET SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE GOLF COURSE, CONTINUATION OF NON GOLF COMMUNITY SPACES, INCLUDING TRAIL SOCCER FIELDS AND PLAY SCAPES AND HAVING THINGS LIKE NON GOLF OPEN PARK DAYS AND ENGAGEMENT FOR EXTRA COMMUNITY USES. AND THERE WAS ALSO CONSENSUS AROUND WHAT WE OPPOSE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE A DRIVING RANGE ADDED AT THE SPACE NETTING OR FENCING AROUND THE GOLF COURSE, THE NIGHT LIGHTING BEYOND THE PARKING LOT. AND THERE WAS ALSO STRONG OPPOSITION TO A CONCESSIONAIRE TAKING OVER GENERAL OPERATIONS OF THE GOLF COURSE. SO ECHOING WHAT KEVIN SAID, A LOT OF SUPPORT, HOW THE GOLF COURSE WORKS TODAY AND THE UNIQUE BALANCE THAT WE HAVE FOR USAGES BETWEEN GOLF AND OTHER USAGES OF THE SPACE AND REALLY DOUBTING YOU THE GOLF COURSE. AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE THE CONTINUE UPKEEP OF IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER, BIZARRE. IT'S BIZARRE. ARE YOU THERE? YES. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. UM, MY NAME IS AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE HANCOCK FOR ALL COALITION. OUR COALITION IS FORMED AT THE AUSTIN JUSTICE COALITION, DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA AND FINDING OUR COMMUNITIES AND WE AIM TO SECURE AN EQUITABLE FUTURE FOR THE HANCOCK, UH, ALL SITES. EARLIER THIS MONTH, WE SENT YOU A LETTER WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND HOW THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS FOR THE HANCOCK GOLF COURSE PLANNING, CONVENE BOOTH. AND IT'S CRITICAL THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN COCONUTS CONDUCTS EQUITABLE AND TRANSPARENT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON THIS ISSUE TO ACHIEVE THIS GOAL. TODAY, WE ASK FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING DISTANCE FIRST COLLECT COMMUNITY BY FEEDBACK AND PRIORITIZE UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS. THE LAST COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BY BAR THAT WAS OPEN TO ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS WAS AT THE START OF 2020 IN NEARLY ONE AND A HALF YEARS. BART HAS NOT HELD A SINGLE MEETING THAT A COMMUNITY MEMBER WHO WAS NOT AFFILIATED WITH AN EXISTING ORGANIZATION FOR THE IN, WE ASKED THAT BARD HOLD MULTIPLE COMMUNITY WIDE ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS THAT ALLOW AUSTINITES TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK BY ORGANIZING OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND WORKING CLASS COMMUNITIES. SECOND SUPPLEMENT SURVEY DATA WITH OTHER FORMS OF FEEDBACK, THE BARD SURVEY WAS WORTHWHILE AND IN ENGLISH ONLY IT WAS OPEN FOR TWO WEEKS ONLY FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND TARGETED KERN GOLFERS. BY POSTING THE QR CODE AROUND THE MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSES, WE ASKED THE BAR TO SUPPLEMENT THEIR EXISTING DATA WITH INCLUSIVE MULTI-LINGUAL AND ALL THE ABILITIES, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESSES THAT PROVIDES COMMUNITY MEMBERS TIME TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK. EXAMPLES INCLUDE THE USE OF SPEAKUP AUSTIN, COLLECTING FEEDBACK FROM USERS OF ALL BARD FACILITIES AND WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ORGANIZATIONS. WE ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALTERNATIVE VISION BY COLLECTING FEEDBACK REGARDING THE FUTURE OF THE HANGUP GOLF COURSE. IT IS INTEGRAL THAT COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENVISION MULTIPLE DIFFERENT FUTURES FOR THE SITE IN A MEETING BETWEEN OUR COALITION IN BARDSTOWN LAST MONTH, IT WAS INDICATED TO US FOR GOLF WAS A PRIORITY FOR THE DEPARTMENT [00:35:01] AND THIS COMMUNITY FEEDBACK TO THE SURVEY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK UP. UH, DO YOU MISS LEANNE BRUNSON ON ITEM B3, ZILKER CAFE? YEAH. OR MAYBE NOT. I SEE HER IN THE LIST. ALL RIGHT. WHILE WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, GIVE HER, SHE SHOULD BE UN-MUTED RIGHT NOW. ALL RIGHT. HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE SURE CAN. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. AND WE'RE GLAD WE GOT YOU ON MS. BRUNSON. YOU HAVE 97. OKAY. I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT QUICK. YEAH. I'VE LIVED IN AUSTIN SINCE 1978, AND I'VE JUST BECOME AWARE RECENTLY ABOUT THE PROPOSAL FOR ALCOHOLICS THE CAFE. UM, I THINK IT'S GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF EXTRA STRESS FOR THE LAST GUARD. DO ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH RESPONSIBILITY TRYING TO KEEP THE SWIMMERS SAFE THERE. I THINK IT ALSO OPENS A CITY TO LITIGATION AND I THINK A PARENT SHOULD BE WATCHING THEIR CHILDREN NOT DRINKING. AND IT COULD ALSO BE AN ADDED STRUGGLE FOR PEOPLE IN THE AREA THAT ALREADY HAVE ALCOHOL ADDICTION PROBLEMS TO DEAL WITH. AND I JUST REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT STAY AS A FAMILY ORIENTED AREA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS ITEM B FIVE, AND THIS IS SURROUNDING THE CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK PLAN. WE HAVE FIVE SPEAKERS LISTED, UH, FOR THIS AND THEN PUBLIC CITIZEN ASSISTANCE COMMUNICATION. AND THE FIRST ONE IS MARY HOLMES, A POLST AD. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THOMAS BALONEY, DAVID FOSTER FARBER, AND THEN STEVE . SO IN THE FIRST SPEAKER, YOU MISS A WHOLE SET OR BE THERE? YES, I AM. CAN YOU HEAR ME? ARE YOU SURE CANNING, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. YOU HAVE NINE. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS MARIAM SAID, UM, I'M A MEMBER OF THE WILLIAMSON CREEK WORKING GROUP, AND I'VE LIVED ON WILLIAMSON CREEK SINCE 1981. I SUPPORT THE VISION PLAN. UM, IT'S ALREADY HELPED US OUT, EVEN THOUGH IT HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED. WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE OUR DESIRES KNOWN FOR THE, UH, SOUTH CONGRESS DEVELOPMENT CALLED THE BEND. UM, THEY WANTED TO BLOCK THE COMMUNITY FROM HAVING ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY, TO THE CREEK, TO JUST HAVING A WILLIAMSON CREEK WORKING GROUP, GAVE US A LITTLE MORE, UH, LEVERAGE AND MAKING THOSE NEEDS KNOWN. UM, AND I KNOW ALSO BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF BIG PROJECTS COMING UP. UM, ONE OF THEM IS THE WINDS AND CREEK WASTEWATER INTERCEPTOR IMPROVEMENT, WHERE THEY'RE REPLACING PART OF THE SEWER AND ALSO THE PROJECT CONNECT ORANGE LINE. UM, THOSE ARE TWO LARGE PROJECTS THAT I THINK HAVING A VISION PLAN IN PLACE CAN REALLY BE IMPORTANT. UM, AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT IT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT, UM, A CROCODILE ART TEACHER EXPRESS INTEREST IN DOING A MURAL PROJECT UNDER THE BRIDGE. SO IF WE HAVE THIS IN PLACE, I THINK THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR HER TO PUT IT TOGETHER. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT DREAM GENTRIFICATION OF OUR AREA. UM, I REALLY DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING ANYMORE, AND WE'RE ONLY TINY GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS. SO I THINK WHAT THE COMMUNITY INITIALLY WANTS, UM, WOULD SAY PRETTY MUCH THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, RIGHT? OUR NEXT SPEAKER, MR. THOMAS BALONEY, RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO. I LIVE IN WEST GATE NEAR THE WESTERN END OF THE WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENWAY PROJECT AREA. AND I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT'S VISION PLAN. IT'S A CAREFULLY CONCEIVED ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AND FORWARD THINKING PLAN THAT SEEKS TO TAKE THIS DISUSED AND ABUSED AREA OF THE CREEK AND TURN IT INTO AN ACCESSIBLE AND VALUABLE PUBLIC ASSET WHILE RETAINING AND IMPROVING ITS NATURAL STATE RECREATIONAL SPACES LIKE THIS ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF OUR LIVES HERE IN AUSTIN. AND THERE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE THIS CITY, THE UNIQUE AND SPECIAL PLACE THAN IT IS RIGHT NOW, A LOT OF THE WILLIAMSON CREEK AREA IS BEING USED AS A DISASTER DUMP. AND IT'S CHOKED WITH GARBAGE UNDER THE GREENWAY VISION PLAN. THE CREEK AND ITS ENVIRONS WILL BE CLEANED UP RESTORED AND MADE HEALTHY AGAIN RATHER THAN LANGUISHING AND THE TOXIC STATE THAT IT'S CURRENTLY IN, THE BEAUTIFUL AND PRACTICAL GREEN SPACE ENVISIONED IN THIS PLAN WILL BENEFIT BOTH THE HUMAN RESIDENTS OF AUSTIN AND ITS WILDLIFE AS WELL. THE WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENWAY WILL TRULY BE SOMETHING THAT THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN CAN BE PROUD OF AND ENJOY. AND I URGE THE PARKS AND [00:40:01] RECREATION DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR TO APPROVE THE VISION PLAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. GREAT. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT SPEAKER, MR. DAVID FOSTER, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS. YOU BETTER EITHER VICE CHAIR. HE'S IN THE QUEUE AND HE'S UN-MUTED. WE CAN SEE HIM. ALL RIGHT, MR. FOSTER, THIS IS RICH DEPALMA. GLAD FOR YOU TO JOIN US. ARE YOU, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? I'M SORRY. I THINK I WAS MUTED. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I CAN ABSOLUTELY HEAR YOU. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. ALL RIGHT. SO MY NAME IS DAVID FOSTER. I'VE BEEN AT SOUTHWOOD RESIDENCE SINCE 1993, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENWAY PLAN. I SUPPORT IT, NOT LEAST BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A GREAT AMENITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING FOR ME. UH, THERE WILL BE A TRAIL HEAD ON THE CREEK, NO MORE THAN A QUARTER MILE FROM MY, MY FRONT DOOR, UH, WAY BACK IN THE 1990S AS OUR SON WAS GOING UP, HE WOULD OFTEN TRAP AROUND IN THE GREENBELT EITHER ON HIS OWN WITH FRIENDS. AND THIS MADE ME NERVOUS, UH, BECAUSE, UH, AS ANOTHER SPEAKER I ALREADY SAID, IT'S JUST A WASTE DUMP. AND FRANKLY, THERE WERE NO CLEARLY MARKED TRAILS DOWN THERE. I CAUGHT PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS. DAN IS NOW, UH, LIVED THERE. UH, AND I THINK HAVING A CLEARLY MARKED AND WELL-MAINTAINED TRAIL IS THIS, UH, PLAN INCLUDES WOULD BE BETTER FOR SAFETY ALL AROUND AND WITH PUT EYES ON THE TRAIL. I THINK IT'S ABOUT MORE THAN JUST OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THOUGH. THIS IS A BIG STEP FORWARD AND REALIZING A VISION THAT DATES BACK AT LEAST TO THE 1990S. AND THIS IS THE VISION OF A CONNECTED SYSTEM OF HIKE AND BIKE TRAILS ALONG AUSTIN CREEKS THAT CONNECT WITH A LADY BIRD LAKE AND THE TRAILS THERE. UH, WILLIAMSON CREEK HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THIS VISION AND I WAS ACTUALLY A PART OF A NONPROFIT CALLED AUSTIN METRO TRAILS AND GREENWAYS, UH, THAT PROMOTED THIS VISION. UM, AND, UH, WE DIDN'T, SUN CREEK HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF IT. UM, THE SOUTH AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD COMBINED PLAN APPROVED IN 19 20 14, RATHER CALLS FOR, UM, A PATH OR A GREEN BAY TRAIL, UH, GREEN CREAM BELT TRAIL ALONG WILLIAMSON CREEK. SO FOR ME, THIS, THIS PLAN IS AN IMPORTANT STAFF IN BRINGING ABOUT THIS VISION THAT IS ACTUALLY 25 YEARS OLD. IT FEELS TO ME LIKE IT'S LONG OVERDUE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. UH, MS. JEN CRAVER, MS. GREGORY, ARE YOU THERE? HELLO? YES. HI, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS. OKAY. UM, GETTING MEAN, UM, MY NAME IS JEN CRAVER AND I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT OF THE GREENWAY VISION PLAN. UM, I'M THE NEWBIE HERE. I'VE LIVED ON CLAWSON ROAD IN THE SOUTHWEST NEIGHBORHOODS FOR TWO YEARS AND AN AUSTIN FOR SIX. UM, MY FAMILY AND I LOVE THE SOUTH GOOD NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IF THERE'S ONE THING, IT LACKS, IT'S USABLE PUBLIC GREEN SPACE, UH, PARTICULARLY A GREEN SPACE. YOU CAN ACCESS WITHOUT CROSSING A MAJOR STREET LIKE THE CHOCOLATE. I'M REALLY THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE VISION PLAN INPUT PROCESS OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO. UM, ADDING COMMENTS TO THE SOCIAL PINPOINT ACTIVITY AND ATTENDING A VIRTUAL MEETING LED BY THE DESIGN TEAM, UM, WITH MY FAMILY. AND I ALSO PARTICIPATED IN A TRASH PICKUP, BEEN ON THE CREEK. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THIS VISION PLAN SHOWS IN TERMS OF MAKING THE CREEK MORE ACCESSIBLE TO FAMILIES AND UNITING THE DISPARATE SECTIONS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I WOULD LOVE TO ABLE TO WALK WITH MY TWO YEAR OLD DOWN TO THE NATURE PLAY AREA OR, UM, BEING AN AVID RUNNER RUN FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CREEK. AND OVERALL, I THINK THIS PLAN WOULD IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR SOUTHWOOD RESIDENTS AND, AND THEN SUPPORT. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR RIGHT. THANK YOU. IN OUR LAST SPEAKER ON THIS AGENDA ITEM IS MR. STEVE BROTHA. GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEP. WE CAN HEAR YOU AND YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS. THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME'S STEVE AND I'M SPEAKING AS A NEIGHBORHOOD STAKEHOLDER WHOSE PROPERTY ADJOINS CITY PARKLAND AND CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK. AND I AM IN FAVOR OF THE VISION PLAN. I LIVE IN THE SALEM MEADOW NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WILLIAMSON CREEK. I WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND AND TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE UNFORTUNATE MISINFORMATION THAT'S BEEN CIRCULATED AROUND THIS VISION PLAN IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, BECAUSE IT'S CREATED SOME CONFUSION AND FRANKLY HAS BEEN A BIG DISSERVICE TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I'VE HAD FEARS THAT IT WOULD CAUSE THIS PLAN TO BE DERAILED. WHAT, AND WHAT SHOULD THE PROFESSIONAL AND ORDERLY REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS? UM, THIS DISINFORMATION STARTED, I THINK AROUND FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AGO DONE BY EMAIL AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND NEIGHBORHOOD FORUMS AND CONTINUED WHEN THIS ITEM WAS BEFORE THE PARKS BOARD IN MAY. [00:45:02] AND AT THAT MEETING, THERE WAS NO OPPORTUNITY PROVIDED FOR REBUTTAL. THERE FIRST, THERE WAS ALLEGATION THAT THE PLAN CALLED FOR PERMANENT ENCAMPMENTS OR THE HOME HOMELESS, WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY FALSE, BUT STILL ALARMED MANY PEOPLE. UM, THERE WAS THE CONTENTION THAT THE PLAN CHANGED AND IT HAD MORPHED INTO SOMETHING RESEMBLING WATERLOO, GREENWAY, LOTS, LOTS OF CONCRETE AND ACTIVITIES, WHICH WAS ALL FALSE, BUT THIS ERRONEOUS CHARACTERIZATION EVEN GOT REPORTED IN THE LOCAL MEDIA. UH, IT WAS SAID THAT THIS PLAN, WHICH CALLS HER TO PRIMITIVE TRAILS WOULD INSTEAD PAVE OVER THE CREEK. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. BYE-BYE UM, IS THERE ANYBODY WHO'S STILL HANGING OUT NOW IN, IN THE MAGICAL PHONE LAND THAT'S OVER THERE? I THINK THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN EVERYBODY RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT CHAIR. UH, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION IS IN THE BACK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO EVERYBODY WHO SPENT THE TIME TO COME AND SHARE THEIR PERSPECTIVES WITH US. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. [A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] OKAY. UM, IF WE DON'T, WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO CHECK OUT THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING IN JUNE. AND IF SO, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS OR IF NOT, THEN IF I COULD GET A MOTION TO APPROVE, UM, I HAD A, I HAD A COMMENT AND ACTUALLY KIND OF A QUESTION. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE HAD TO CLARIFY HERE IS THAT WE THOUGHT THAT THAT UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING, WE THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS A VOTE. SO IT DIDN'T PASS AS WE LEARNED OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES TO CLARIFY THAT IN THE NOTES, I THINK MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD A QUESTION. AND THAT IS, I SEE ALL THE PEOPLE LISTED THAT CAME TO TALK. BUT DO WE, DO WE USUALLY DO THAT OR IS THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT? I'M SORRY, WHAT, WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE LAST QUESTION YOU ASKED, REMEMBER CUTTING. CYBIL I I'M HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING YOU. YEAH. THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH HER CONNECTION, I THINK. BUT THE LAST QUESTION WAS SHE NOTICED THAT THE LIST OF SPEAKERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE AGENDA ITEMS AND SHE WANTED TO SEE IF THAT WAS ROUTINE. YES. YES. OKAY. YOU LOOK AT THE MEN SPECIFICALLY CHAIR, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MINUTES, UM, AND YOU SEE, I KNOW WHAT THE SPEAKER IS TALKING. I'M GOING TO KNOW WHAT THE BOARD MEMBERS TALKING ABOUT. SO UNDER, SAY THREE, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE ZOCOR CAFE PUBLIC COMMENT AGAINST THAT, IT HAS THE CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDED BY, AND THEN BASICALLY LISTS EVERYBODY NAMED THAT'S PRETTY UNIQUE FOR US DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT IN THE SIX YEARS, THE BOARD IT IS. AND, AND MAYBE THAT, OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T WRITE THE MINUTES SEMI, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS? I PUT THAT IN JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY, IF IT IS NOT CUSTOMED TO DO IT, UH, I WILL ADMIT THIS WAS MY FIRST MEETING THAT WE HAD A LOT OF SPEAKERS AT. UM, AND WE DID GET A REQUEST FROM THE MEDIA FOLLOWING THAT MEETING FOR, UM, SPEAKER NAMES. AND SO I PUT IT IN THERE IN THE FUTURE GOING FORWARD THAT I KNOW LIKE CITY COUNCIL MINUTES, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY PUT THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IN THERE, SO I CAN CERTAINLY NOT DO IT GOING FORWARD. I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I JUST FEEL LIKE IF WE DO THAT, WE OUGHT TO ALSO NOTICE THAT THERE WERE 219 LETTERS THAT AT THAT MEETING IN FAVOR OF, UH, DENYING THE CUP AND THERE WERE THREE LETTERS AGAINST, AND I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO BE TRANSPARENT, WE NEED TO GIVE ALL THAT INFORMATION. WELL, THAT BOARD MEMBER, I THINK WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CONSOLIDATED LIST BECAUSE HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK I RECEIVED PROBABLY MORE IN FAVOR THAN MAYBE YOU DID. AND I DON'T THINK I'VE RECEIVED, I MAY HAVE RECEIVED THE 219 AGAINST, BUT I KNOW, WELL, WE PROBABLY NEED TO RETHINK THIS BECAUSE WE PROBABLY ALL GET LETTERS FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON SOME COME TO ALL OF US AND SOME DON'T. BUT, AND I KNOW THE LETTERS WEREN'T OFFICIALLY PART OF THE, THE MEETING, BUT I, I SEE YOUR POINT, REMEMBER COTTON CYBIL. SO, [00:50:01] UH, IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY NEED TO, TO ADDRESS. SO LET'S, LET'S PLAN TO DO THAT MAYBE OFF, UM, AT ANOTHER MEETING, YOU CAN ALSO MOVE TO STRIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD COME NEXT. YOU, YOU CAN MOVE TO STRIKE THAT FROM THE MINUTES SINCE IT'S INCONSISTENCY WITH TIME. SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO THAT, I WASN'T WHETHER YOU WANTED TO DO THAT OR NOT, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO MOVE TO STRIKE IT. OKAY. SO MOVED. HEY, DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'M SORRY. I TURNED TO SEE, GOT TO GET A SECOND. SO I DON'T SEE A SECOND, BUT IF I'M WRONG, SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ME, I'M VERY GOOD AT MISSING THINGS. SO, SO ALL WE'RE, SO ALL WE'RE GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS TO STRIKE THESE LISTS OF, UM, NAMES FROM THE PROGRAM AND THE MINUTES, BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF IT, BECAUSE SHE WAS, I THINK HER ISSUE WAS THAT WE IT'S NOT, WE DID, YOU KNOW, A BIG YOU UNDERSTAND, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT WE NOT MAKE A CONVENTION OUT OF LISTING THE NAMES OF SUPPORTERS WHO VOICED THEIR CITIZENS. WHO'VE COME TO GET CITIZEN COMMUNICATION OR OFFER OPINIONS OVER EMAIL, JUST BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE YOU COULD TURN INTO A REALLY COMPLEX ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN. AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE ABOVE AND BEYOND THE FUNCTION OF HAVING THE MINUTES AS A RECORD. SO DON COMMENT SURE. FOR US. SO I WASN'T PRESENT AT THIS MEETING, SO I DON'T WANT TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION OR A SECOND OR ANYTHING ON THE MINUTES I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN, BUT I WOULD MAKE THE SUGGESTION THAT A STANDARD PROTOCOL WOULD BE TO STAY IN MINUTES. PUBLIC COMMENT WAS TAKEN OR PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RECEIVED BY THE BOARD. THAT'S A STANDARD PROTOCOL YOU WOULD SEE IN GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY MINUTES, IF YOU WANT THAT TO BE NOTED. OKAY. I'VE ALSO SEEN IT THOUGH WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS, LISTING OUT WHO, WHO HAD PROVIDED ACTUAL TESTIMONY AND THEN EVEN OUR EARLIER PARTS BOARD, UM, NOT WITHIN THIS DECADE, I DON'T THINK, BUT IN PREVIOUS, LIKE IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES WHERE IT IS LISTED FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S GIVING TESTIMONY. SO, UM, I'M GOOD WITH EITHER ONE. I, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I ALSO HOPE YOU'LL CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT THIS PROCEDURAL NOTATION IS ACCURATE AND SHOULD BE INCLUDED THE LAST SENTENCE. OKAY. I THINK AT THIS POINT WE PROBABLY, UM, I MEAN, HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY WANT TO GO INTO A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT ON OUR AGENDA. SO LET'S GO BACK TO, UM, BOARD MEMBER, COTTON SEIBEL'S MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND OR NOT? SO WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MOTION OR NOT. OKAY. SINCE I DON'T SEE WHAT SEMI, I THINK WE PROBABLY, UM, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS AT SOME AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT A POLICY, BUT AT THIS, IT SEEMS THAT, UM, WE CAN DO THAT MAYBE OFF, UM, NOT WHEN WE'RE AT THIS MEETING RIGHT NOW, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. SO LET'S PLAN TO TALK ABOUT IT IN THE FUTURE, BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO IT RIGHT NOW, BUT I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. THANK YOU. SO, IN THE MEANTIME, I HAVE A MOTION. I MOVED TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 22ND, 2021, ADOPT THE MINUTES AS THEY ARE. IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? UM, WELL ACTUALLY WITH THE AMENDMENT CLARIFYING SURELY ADOPT AMENDMENTS CLARIFYING. OKAY. THE STATEMENT RELATING TO THE, UH, CONVENTIONAL, UH, CONDITIONAL USE BURNETT, WHICH I DON'T HAVE A STATEMENT CLARIFYING. MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE MADE THE MOTION, SORRY. Y'ALL YES. WELL, WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A BOARD MEMBER HAGMAN. WE'VE NEVER REALLY HAD THIS MUCH TROUBLE WITH OUR MINUTES BEFORE, BUT WE'LL JUST, UM, WELL, THE KEY IS THE CLARIFYING LANGUAGE THAT FOLKS WANTED A BASICALLY, WHICH WAS A NOTATION UNDERNEATH THREE SAYING, SAYING THAT LETTERS WERE ALSO RECEIVED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE AS WELL AS THESE, UM, AS WELL AS THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION IS THAT WHAT'S, YOU'RE TRYING TO, TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION THAT'S GONNA MAKE. UH, I, I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND KEEP THE MOTION JUST FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES. I THINK EVERYTHING'S KIND OF CLEAR IN HERE. SORRY. OKAY. DO I HAVE [00:55:01] A SECOND FOR THAT? OKAY. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER BARNARD. DO WE HAVE ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSING THE MO THE, UM, APPROVING THE MINUTES AS THEY ARE? AND I HAVE, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE UP TO FRUIT, BUT WE HAVE, UM, LET'S SEE. WELL, I KNOW THAT BOARD MEMBER, UM, UM, LET'S SEND ME, WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, AND I CAN NOT SEE BOARD MEMBERS TO CARLIN. IS SHE STILL HERE? YEAH, I I'M STILL HERE. THIS IS ANNA I'M I'M IN FAVOR. OKAY. OKAY. AND THOSE OPPOSED WE HAD FOUR MEMBER, COTTON SEIBEL, AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE ABSTAINING RIGHT. BOARD MEMBER FAUST. IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, I'M ABSTAINING, BUT IT'S VERY HARD. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. YOU'RE ADOPTING MINUTES THAT STATE WHO GAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AGAINST AN IN FAVOR, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT. AND IT ALSO STATES PUBLIC COMMENT IN FAVOR OF, AND THEN IT LISTS THE VENDORS THAT ARE THE APPLICANTS. SO THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE. THEY'RE PUBLIC. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, HOW ARE THEY, HOW HAS THAT PUBLIC COMMENT? THIS IS A NOTION WE HAD DISCUSSION ALREADY. I BELIEVE THAT WE DID. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THE MOTION PASSED. THANK YOU. OKAY. [B.1. Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding a recommendation to the City Council for the negotiation and execution of a partnership agreement with The Trail Foundation for the operations, maintenance and programming for the Ann and Roy Butler Hike-and-Bike Trail at Town Lake Metropolitan Park.] UM, MOVING ON TO, UM, THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WE HAVE THE, UM, PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE NEGOTIATION AND EXECUTION OF A PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH THE TRAIL FOUNDATION, FOR THE OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE, AND PROGRAMMING FOR THE, AN ANDROID BUTLER, HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL AT TOWN LAKE METROPOLITAN PARK. THIS IS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PULL IT FOR, UM, DISCUSSION OR SHOULD WE VOTE ON, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT CONTRACTS CONCESSIONS DID, SO OKAY. SO ANYBODY WANT TO PULL? I WOULD, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. THIS IS FOR A MEMBER FAST. OKAY. FOR OUR MEMBER FILES, LIKE TO PULL THE ITEM. SO IN THAT CASE BOARD MEMBER FOSSE, DID YOU WANT TO, TO SEE THE PRESENTATION OR DID YOU JUST WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS? UM, THERE WAS A PARTICULAR SLIDE I NEEDED A MORE EXPLANATION ON. OKAY. SO, UM, I CAN, UH, REFER TO THE SLIDE AND I HAD A COUPLE OF A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, LET'S SEE, UH, SLIDE 11. OKAY. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY SEND ME THE, CAN PULL UP THAT SLIDE FOR US PLEASE? CHRISTINE, ARE YOU OKAY? YES. GIVE US JUST A SECOND. WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE LIANA OVER AND PULL UP AT THE SAME TIME. THANK YOU. HEY, CHAIR LEWIS. CAN YOU HEAR ME? IT'S JIM BERLIN. YES, I CAN HEAR YOU. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE SAMMY JUST TEXTED ME AND SAID THAT HER WEBEX SHE'S AT CITY HALL AND NO BUY BACKS HAS STOPPED WORKING. SO THE QUESTION IS, UH, IS, IS WHETHER OR NOT CHRISTINE OR RIHANNA ARE AVAILABLE TO HIRE. OKAY. I AM HERE AND I BELIEVE HEIDI IS AS WELL, HEIDI ANDERSON WITH THE TRAIL FOUNDATION. AND SO FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS IF I COULD DESCRIBE, I KNOW, BOARD MEMBER FAST, SHE WANTED TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, UH, SLIDE NUMBER 11. I BELIEVE. SO. NUMBER 11 IS THE PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP PHASING, IS THAT CORRECT? BOARD MEMBER POST IT'S SORT OF 11 AND 12. UM, I, AND SO THAT DESCRIPTION HAS TO HAVE LIKE A, JUST A, UH, A PROCEDURAL QUESTION I'D LIKE TO ASK INITIALLY. OKAY. [01:00:01] PLEASE PROCEED. OKAY. SO THE STATUS, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE CONTRACT? THE ACTION WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO RECOMMEND NEGOTIATION AND EXECUTION. AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE CONTRACT HAS NOT BEEN NEGOTIATED OR WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE TERMS? SO I'LL ALLOW CHRISTINE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY. SURE. UM, SO IF YOU GO TO ONE ON THE BACKUP, YOU HAVE THE PARTNERSHIP, A CONFIGURATIONS, THOSE ARE THE HIGH-LEVEL TERMS FOR PARTNERS ENTERING INTO A PARTNERSHIP A WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF HIGH LEVEL FIRMS THAT WERE, UH, UH, BEEN THOROUGHLY VETTED AND DISCUSSED OVER A YEAR PERIOD. AND, UM, WE DID PRESENT ON THEM ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, RIGHT? THOSE URNS ARE THEN, UM, WHAT REALLY MAKES UP THE POMA AGREEMENT PER THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION FROM MARCH 12TH, 2020, THE CURRENTLY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AND TTF AS WELL AS CITY LAW ARE WORKING THROUGH THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS WELL AS BECAUSE EVERY SITE IS DIFFERENT, RIGHT? AND EVERY SITE HAS DIFFERENT, UM, OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PLAN. EVERY SITE HAS A DIFFERENT PROGRAMMING PLAN. SO CURRENTLY THAT IS WHAT IS BEING WORKED THROUGH IN THE, THE, BETWEEN TTF CITY LEGAL AND THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ARE THESE HIGH LEVEL TERMS THAT WERE PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY, AND THEN, UM, THE SPECIFICS OF THE AGREEMENT OR THE, THE REALLY THAT, WHAT IS GOING THE ACTIVITIES OF THE PARTNER AS WELL AS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. YEAH. AND IF I COULD ADD TO WHAT CHRISTINE SAID PER THE RESOLUTION, THE RESOLUTION ASKED US TO PUT TOGETHER RIGHT. TO, TO CREATE THE TERMS AND THEN TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND REQUEST, IF WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGREEMENT FOR SPECIFIC PARTNERS AND THEY NAMED A COUPLE OF THEM. BUT BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, AS INDIVIDUALS, THE WAY THAT WE WERE INTERPRETING YOUR RESOLUTION IS THAT FOR THOSE PARTNERS, THAT WE'VE HAD LONG STANDING RELATIONSHIPS WITHOUT A FORMAL AGREEMENT, THEY WOULD LIKE, THEY WANTED US TO ESTABLISH COUNCIL, WANTED US TO ESTABLISH THOSE BASE TERMS, AND THEN BACK FOR PERMISSION TO NEGOTIATE AND EXECUTE. SO YOU HAD SEEN PRIOR TO THIS, THE PEACE PARK CONSERVANCY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE WINDUP. AND THEN NOW THIS ONE, RIGHT. AND THERE'LL BE OTHERS THAT WILL COME TO YOU BASED UPON THAT RESOLUTION. RIGHT? YEAH. I UNDERSTAND THE OVERALL PROCESS AND THE CONCEPT IN THIS, I WAS ASKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC CONTRACT WITH THIS ORGANIZATION SINCE, AS WAS STATED, THERE THEY'RE UNIQUE TO EACH SITE. SO WITH THIS, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS SLIDE. 11 HAS THIS PHASING AND THEN SLIDE 12, CAUSE THESE LIKE SPECIFIC PROJECTS WITHIN EACH OF THESE ZONES, RIGHT? BOARD MEMBER FAUST AND CHAIR LEWIS AND ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS. THIS IS HEIDI ANDERSON CEO WITH THE CHARLE FOUNDATION. AND WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS SLIDE DECK TO CONTRACTS AND CONCESSIONS LAST WEEK, THESE WERE SOME OF THE SLIDES THAT I, UH, UH, SPOKE TO. SO IF YOU CAN ALLOW ME, I'M HAPPY TO TRY AND WALK YOU THROUGH THESE TWO SLIDES AND HELP YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND THEM. SURE. UM, SO SLIDE 11 HERE IS THE PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP PHASING AND IT WAS, IT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED THROUGH A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH. AND SO RIGHT NOW A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON, UM, ASSET INVENTORY. UM, THE LITERALLY LAND MANAGEMENT GUIDELINES HAVE BEEN PRODUCED THAT WE SPOKE TO EARLIER IN THIS PRESENTATION, UH, ALL OF WHICH WERE DONE AND CREATED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH, WITH, UH, UH, STAFF AND CITY CITY STAFF FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS WATERSHED PROTECTION. UM, AND SO IT'S A VERY THOUGHTFUL, CONSERVATIVE APPROACH. THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE PHASING ARE BASED ON ANALYSIS OF THE CURRENT TRAIL ENVIRONMENT AND ORGANIZATIONAL CONDITIONS. SO PER THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT, ONCE WE HAVE AN ACTUAL AGREEMENT, WE WOULD TTF WOULD WORK WITH THE CITY EVERY YEAR ON AN ANNUAL BASIS REVIEWING STATUS OF, OF OUR CAPACITY FUNDING, FEASIBILITY, WHAT THE NEXT PROPOSED PHASE AND STEP WOULD BE. AND BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD AND YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE TOP MAP THAT WE'VE, WE'VE DESIGNATED THE TRAIL INTO FOUR SPECIFIC ZONES AND THEN OUTLINED THE PHASING FOR, UH, UH, ADDING RESPONSIBILITY TO THE TRAIL FOUNDATION FOR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS PER EACH ZONE. SO THE SOUTHEAST ZONE IS THE FIRST ZONE, UM, THAT WE WOULD END UP MOVING THROUGH THREE PHASES OF TRANSFERRING [01:05:01] SOME OF, OR, OR TTF STEPPING UP TO TAKE ON SUPPLEMENTAL, UH, AND ADDITIONAL SUPPORT OF THE SPACE. AND SO IT WOULD TAKE A NUMBER OF YEARS TO FULLY ACHIEVE. UM, TTF REALLY HAVING MORE RESPONSIBILITY FOR OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE FOR THE FULL, UH, 10 MILE LOOP TRAIL AND AROUND 200 ACRES OF PARKLAND ON WHICH IT SITS. UM, BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE. WE'LL ALWAYS BE PUBLIC PARKLAND WILL ALWAYS BELONG TO THE CITY. WE JUST STEPPING IN TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A PERCENTAGE OF, OF WORK, LITERALLY WORK THAT IS DONE BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND WATERSHED PROTECTION, SO THAT IT ENSURES A CONTINUOUS COLLABORATION BETWEEN ALL THREE REALLY CITY DEPARTMENTS AND TO EVEN SOME EXTENT PUBLIC WORKS AND, AND, UH, TRANSPORTATION EVEN. AND SO, UM, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A COLLABORATION. OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL VERY HELPFUL. THANK YOU. I'M JUST WONDERING LIKE WHAT THOSE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT ARE LISTED ON THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, WHAT'S LIKE, WHAT'S THE RUSH HOLD. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOVERNED BY THE AGREEMENT. THAT'S KIND OF WONDERING IF THE AGREEMENT COVERS, LIKE, WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD FOR LIKE THE TYPE OF REVIEW, UM, PERMITTING, REVIEW THESE, GET BY APPROVING THIS AGREEMENT. ARE WE SIGNING OFF ON THESE FUTURE PROJECTS? LIKE WHAT IS THE, THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S KIND OF MY QUESTION. SO MOVING FORWARDS, I UNDERSTAND. YES. SO THE SLIDE PREVIOUS IS MORE ABOUT LAND MANAGEMENT, LIKE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF, OF THE PARKLAND ITSELF, YOU KNOW, UH, TURF CARE AND TREE CARE, THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS MAP IS SHOWING YOU, UH, PRIMARILY, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, THE CAPITAL PLACE-MAKING PROJECTS THAT THE TRAIL FOUNDATION HAS COMPLETED IN OUR 18 YEARS. AND THEN A FEW YEARS AGO, WE, UH, PUT TOGETHER A LIST BASED ON A MATRIX, UH, OF COMMUNITY NEED COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND OUR FEASIBILITY TO PRODUCE A PARTICULAR CAPITAL PROJECT. AND WE RELEASED 15 PROJECTS. IT'S BEEN ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO THAT WE WOULD TRY AND MAKE OUR INTENTION TO COMPLETE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, BUT WE CALL IT A TOOL, NOT A RULE. AND WE DO THAT ON PURPOSE BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT IT HAS TO GO THROUGH EVERY CITY PROCESS THAT ANY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH. SO IT FOLLOWS ALL CITY CODE FOLLOWS ALL CITY PERMITTING PROCESSES. NONE OF THESE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS ARE APPROVED IN ANY WAY IN ANY KIND OF HOLISTIC APPROACH. WE STILL, AND THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT DOESN'T ADDRESS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE EVERY STEP OF THE ONGOING REGULAR PROCESS WE'VE ALWAYS HAD TO GO TO WILL REMAIN IN PLACE. SO EVERY INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT WOULD HAVE EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND THAT'S WHY WE CALL THIS A TOOL, NOT A RULE. WE MAY THINK A PLAYGROUND IS A GREAT IDEA OVER AT THE HOLLY PARKLAND. YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT GETS OPENED BACK UP AND GIVEN BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT IF THAT'S NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, THEN WE WILL LISTEN AND TRY AND PROVIDE THEM WITH WHAT IT IS THEY DO WANT DOES THAT I DO WANT TO, I DO WANT TO GO TO ALSO SLIDE NINE, REALLY TALKS, UH, IS SHOWING THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND HOW THE PROCESS FOR WHICH TTS AND ANY PARTNERS FOLLOW AND WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW REGARDLESS OF THE POMA. OKAY. THANK YOU. MY OTHER, MY OTHER QUESTION WAS JUST RELATED TO SIGNAGE. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE AGREEMENT, UM, THAT GOVERNS LIKE THE AMOUNT OF SIGNS THAT PARTNERS CAN PLACE I'VE NOTICED WITH, UH, SEVERAL OF OUR PARTNERS. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF SIGNS ASKING PEOPLE TO SCAN A CODE AND MAKE A DONATION. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS VALUABLE AND THEY NEED TO IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, BUT IT ALSO FEELS LIKE A LITTLE BIT INFRINGING ON THE IDEA OF OUR PARKS AS REALLY A, AN URBAN RESPIGHI AND A PLACE FOR NATURE. WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF THESE YOU KNOW, YARD SIGNS AND BANNERS EVERYWHERE TELLING, ASKING YOU TO DONATE AND HELP. IS THERE ANY, UM, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THE AGREEMENT THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT'S APPROPRIATE IN THAT REGARD THE NUMBER OR, YOU KNOW, HOW TO, CAN I CHIME IN, TELL YOU WAY BACK? YEAH. AND I WILL SAY, UH, PART HAS DONOR RECOGNITION GUIDELINES, AS WELL AS, UM, UH, SIGNAGE GUIDELINES, WHICH ARE GOVERNED BY CODE AND ALL OF THOSE, UH, ALL GO THROUGH THAT, THE SAME PROCESS FOR REVIEW THROUGH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. SO ALL OF THOSE LITTLE YARD SIGNS ARE REVIEWED AND APPROVED. [01:10:01] THREE SIGNAGE HAS PER CODE HAS DIFFERENT, UM, HAS DONE, IS ALLOWED. AND SO YES, TEMPORARY SIGNAGE AS WELL. SO, SO TO GO, I CAN PROVIDE THE GUIDELINES, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT REALLY DEFINITIONS OF SIGNAGE PER CODE AS WELL AS DONOR RECOGNITION. AND SO YES, THEY ARE. THEY YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GOVERNED BY CODE, BUT IT'S ALLOWED, SO THERE'S NO RESTRICTION ON IT. THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME, HOW LONG, UM, PLACEMENT OF WHERE IT IS, UM, CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RIGHT AWAY. UM, SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS BASED ON THE TYPE OF SIGNAGE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE YARD SIGNS, ASKING FOR A DONATION, WHAT'S THE RULES ON THOSE. I'D HAVE TO PULL THEM. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, ANY INFORMATION THAT ISN'T CORRECT, THAT IT IS ALLOWED. UM, BUT IT IS TEMPORARY. AND THEN THERE ARE SPECIFICS FOR CODES AND ALL OF THE GUIDELINES, 0.2, TWO ON THE TRAIL. AND I'LL ALSO SAY, I MEAN, THERE'S ANOTHER PARK I KNOW OF WHERE IT'S, IT'S STARTING TO FEEL LIKE A LOT. SO IF I COULD SPEAK TO THAT CHAIR OR BOARD MEMBER FAUST, ALSO ONE OF OUR 15, WHICH WAS JUST ON THAT MAP WE WERE LOOKING AT IS TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE SIGNAGE PLAN. THAT'S ONE OF THE 15 LISTED AND IT'S NEXT UP IN OUR QUEUE TO WORK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE 10 MILE LOOP AND THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTION SPURS AS WELL TO CREATE KIND OF A VERY HOLISTIC, UH, APPROACH TO THE SIGNAGE. SO ANYTHING THAT JUST KIND OF FEELS SCATTERED AROUND CAN BE REMOVED AND THERE CAN BE SPECIFIC PLACES WHERE SIGNAGE CAN GO. AND THEN THERE WOULDN'T BE KIND OF THIS, UM, THIS AN ORGANIZED FEEL TO IT POTENTIALLY IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE THOUGHTFUL. IT WOULD, AS IT WOULD BE ONE OF OUR 15 PROJECTS, IT'S A CAPITAL PROJECT. SO IT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. SO AS OF THAT PROJECT IS TO KIND OF CLEAN ALL THAT UP AND FOLLOW THE CITY CODES AND PROCESSES, GET IT ALL REVIEWED APPROPRIATELY THROUGH THE RIGHT CHANNELS AND THEN HAVE, HAVE KIND OF A PLAN THAT IS COHESIVE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFULNESS ON IT. I THINK PART OF WHAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES IS IT'S UNINTENTIONAL THAT SOMEBODY'S GOT DONATION SIGNS UP. THERE'S ALSO SIGNS MAKING YOU AWARE OF A PUBLIC EVENT OR, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATE IN THE VISION PLAN. AND THOSE ARE ALL IMPORTANT MESSAGES, BUT IT CAN BECOME SOMETHING QUITE CLUTTERED IN A SPACE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET RELIEF FROM ALL OF THE INCOMING STIMULI OF LIVING IN THE CITY. AND SO THANK YOU FOR BEING THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO, UM, CONSIDER AND GIVE INPUT ON YOUR SIGN, COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PLAN. THANK YOU. UM, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PAUL SAID IT? YES. OKAY. DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THEY WANTED TO ASK, UH, CHRISTINE OR, OR HEIDI ABOUT THE TRULL FOUNDATION? I DO HAVE A QUESTION IF YOU CAN HEAR IT. OKAY. UM, YOU BACKING ON THE SIGN THING. ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS I HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN THE INTEGRITY OF HEIDI ANDERSON AND THE CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS OF THE TRAIL FOUNDATION, BUT I'M WONDERING LONGTERM, WHAT SORTS OF LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AS THIS MOVES ON, YOU KNOW, IF THIS PARTNERSHIP CONTINUES, UM, WHAT SORT OF LANGUAGE DO WE HAVE THAT GOVERNS THINGS LIKE ADS OR THINGS LIKE, UM, NAMING FEATURES FOR DONORS? WHAT SORT OF LANGUAGE DOES THE CITY HAVE IN THIS AGREEMENT ABOUT THAT? SO PART NUMBER COTTON SEIBEL IS KIMBERLY MCNEALY. I WILL I'LL, I'LL ALLOW CHRISTINE TO ELABORATE, BUT AS CHRISTINE HAD TALKED BEFORE, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS WILL BE GOVERNED BY CODE. AND SO THE AGREEMENT WILL HAVE SOME OVERARCHING LANGUAGE THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY SAY AS DO ALL OF OUR AGREEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH LOCAL STATE, FEDERAL RULES, REGULATIONS, CODE, OR LAWS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO THERE'S SOME OVERARCHING LANGUAGE THAT'S PROVIDED IN THE, UM, IN THE AGREEMENT, BUT ALSO, UM, THERE'S, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY TAKING FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD. WE HEARD SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU TODAY, RIGHT? AND WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO, UM, ENSURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING A STRONG RELATIONSHIP, EVEN IF IT'S NOT HEIDI, A STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE, WITH THE TRAIL FOUNDATION AND HAVING REGULAR REVIEW AND REGULAR, UM, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. AND WITH THAT, UM, I'M GONNA ALLOW CHRISTINE TO PERHAPS PROVIDE MORE DETAILS THAT WE'LL GET MAYBE TO THE HEART OF YOUR QUESTION, HOW TO ANSWER THAT. UM, KIMBERLY REALLY SPOKE TO THE LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THE, THE POMONA AGREEMENT OR WITH ANY AGREEMENT, [01:15:01] UM, EXISTING WITH PARKLAND APPROVAL AND AGREEMENT WITH, WITH PARTNERS, UM, IS THAT ALL RECOGNITION, DONOR RECOGNITION MUST FOLLOW THE ESTABLISH PARD PROCESS AND FOLLOW ALL EXISTING CODE. SO THE PROCESS WHICH I MENTIONED IS, UH, THAT THE, THE PARTNER PROVIDES, YOU KNOW, A COMPREHENSIVE EXPLANATION, INCLUDING ANY, ANY OF THE SPECS, THE MATERIALS, UM, ALL OF THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE POTENTIAL DONOR RECOGNITION FOR A THOROUGH REVIEW, UM, AND THEN DIRECTOR APPROVAL PRIOR TO FABRICATION. SO THAT'S THE, THE PROCESS AND ALL OF THAT IS WRITTEN INTO THE AGREEMENT. AND AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE OUR, OUR GUIDELINES AFTER THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE THOSE WHERE IT JUST KIND OF GIVES THE DETAILED INFORMATION OF THE PROCESS FOR WHICH PARTNERS DO PROPOSE DONOR RECOGNITION ON PARKLAND. AND THIS ISN'T JUST PARTNERS. WE ALSO HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT DO THIS, UM, AS WELL AT PRE YOU KNOW, FAIRLY REGULARLY. AND IT'S THIS THE SAME PROCESS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, FOR ANY, ANY GROUP DOING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LEADING A PARKLAND IMPROVEMENT AND FUNDRAISING ON PARKLAND, WHO, WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THE OVERSIGHT FROM THE CITY ON THIS, LIKE WHO'S WALKING, IS SOMEBODY WALKING THE TRAIL AND CHECKING FOR ADS IS SOMEBODY CHECKING FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT? IS THERE A, UM, OVERSIGHT IN THAT REGARD WRITTEN INTO THE RECORD? SO, SO BOARD MEMBER, THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT MANAGES THE AGREEMENT. UM, AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, UH, I HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH, WITH, UH, THE TRAIL FOUNDATION AND OTHER PARTNERS, BUT SINCE WE'RE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE TRAIL FOUNDATION, I HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS. UM, WE TALK ABOUT ISSUES RELATED TO THE AGREEMENT OR RELATED TO SIGNAGE OR RELATED TO WHATEVER IT IS THAT CHRISTINE HELPS ME UNDERSTAND IS IMPORTANT, OR HEIDI BRINGS TO THE TABLE AS IMPORTANT. UM, I GO OUT ON A REGULAR BASIS, I'M INVITED TO THE BOARD MEETINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD OF THE TRAIL FOUNDATION AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, UM, MAINTAIN THAT SHARED VISION MISSION VALUES. UM, ALSO IF TTF IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE US WITH REPORTING INFORMATION, AND HERE'S WHERE I'M GOING TO GET TO THE HEART OF YOUR QUESTION, UM, FREEZE NELLA, THAT WE HAVE AN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE TEAM THAT MEETS WITH HEIDI AND HER TEAM REGULARLY. I'M ON, COULD SAY IT'S SPECIFICALLY HEIDI, BUT OUR OWN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE TEAM HAS MEETING WITH HER OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE TEAM ON A WEEKLY BASIS. CHRISTINE MEETS WITH HEIDI OR A REPRESENTATIVE FROM HEIDI'S TEAM ON A WEEKLY BASIS. WE HAVE A JOINT TEAM OF THAT'S CONSISTS OF PARKS AND RECREATION, UH, PERSONNEL, AS WELL AS WATERSHED PROTECTION PERSONNEL, BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT WATERSHED PROTECTION HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THAT THIS GETS, WE GET THIS RIGHT AND THEY MEET ON OUR OUT A MONTHLY BASIS. UM, THERE ARE MONTHLY MEETINGS TO TALK THROUGH PROJECTS. THERE'S MONTHLY MEETINGS TO TALK THROUGH, UM, MAINTENANCE ISSUES, RESTORATION, UH, ARE ECOLOGICAL RESTORATION, THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, UM, MOWING JUST BASIC MARINE RESECT, TRAIL MAINTENANCE. SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT ON A WEEKLY BASIS, SOMEONE IS IN CHARGE. AND YES, THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS OUR OPERATIONS TEAM IS WALKING. IT'S NOT OUR OPERATIONS TEAM, SOMETIMES IT'S CHRISTINE. AND SOMETIMES IN OTHER CASES, DEPENDING UPON IF THERE'S AN EVENT HAPPENING, IT MIGHT BE PART OF OUR EVENTS TEAM. SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS WITH EYES ON THE RELATIONSHIP, AND I DON'T EXPECT THAT THAT WOULD, UH, DIFFER IN THE FUTURE OTHER THAN AS WE, UM, OUR PARTNERSHIP GROWS AND OUR, UM, UH, OUR AGREEMENT BECOMES FINALIZED AND THEN IT BECOMES STRONGER AND MORE ROUTINE. MAYBE THE WEEKLY MEETINGS WILL TURN INTO BI-WEEKLY MEETINGS, BUT THEY'LL ALWAYS BE, UM, THEY'LL ALWAYS BE THAT CONTACT. AND THEN JUST FROM A GENERAL SENSE, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, BEEN TRAINED IN CONTRACT MANAGEMENT. OUR TEAM HAS BEEN TRAINED IN CONTRACT MANAGEMENT. SO WE HAVE A GENERAL CHECKLIST OF ALL THE TERMS AND DELIVERABLES FOR EVERY, FOR EVERY PARTNER THAT WE HAVE THAT'S SPECIFICALLY FOR TTF. AND WE HAVE A, WHAT WE CALL A, UM, A CONTRACT DESK REVIEW ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE, OF THE AGREEMENT. AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S NOT CORRECT, THAT WE MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT. UM, WE CAN MAKE THAT AT ANY TIME THAT COMES TO OUR COMES TO OUR ATTENTION. SO HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU SOME UNDERSTANDING OF OUR MANAGING MAINTENANCE OF THE AGREEMENT. WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UM, I DO CHAIR. YEAH, I TOTALLY GET IT. I MEAN, I HAVE THE SAME CHALLENGE, SO, OKAY, PLEASE GO AHEAD. YEAH, NO. AND SO WHEN APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THE TRAIL FOUNDATION HAS DONE, I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER, YOU KNOW, OVER $17 MILLION. AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS CONCERNED [01:20:01] WHEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME THE PUBLIC SAYS, YOU KNOW, SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THERE'S ALWAYS A VIEWPOINT OR LENS IN WHICH SOMETIMES THESE OPERATIONS AGREEMENTS ARE, ARE HELD. AND SO LET'S DO SOME CLARIFICATION. SO IS THERE AN ABILITY TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT BASED UPON CAUSE OR PERFORMANCE OR ANYTHING ELSE GOING FORWARD JUST AS WHAT THE BOARD MEMBER, UH, ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAD TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE A NEW BOARD, A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THINGS ARE JUST NOT WORKING OUT. WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF CITIZENS' COMPLAINTS, CAPITAL INVESTMENTS ARE NOT BEING MADE. DOES THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, THE CITY OF BOSTON HAVE THE ABILITY TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT? YEAH. AS PART OF OUR, UM, COMMON LANGUAGE, JUST FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY PARTNER TO CURE, RIGHT. TO CURE THAT, UM, THAT, UH, DEFICIENCY. BUT IF THEY DON'T CARE, THE DEFICIENCY VENDORS, THERE'S A RIGHT TEACHER. OKAY, PERFECT. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, DOES THIS HAND OVER PARKLAND FOR THE OWNERSHIP TO THE TRAIL FOUNDATION WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THE CITIZENS OF AUSTIN? NO, SIR. THAT'S ALWAYS REMAINS AN ASSET TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. IT WILL ALWAYS REMAIN PARKLAND UNLESS, AND UNTIL THERE'S A VOTE OF THE PUBLIC TO DO SOMETHING GOOD. OKAY. NOW, IF THERE'S A CAPITAL PROJECT, THAT'S TAKEN APART A LOT AND THAT'S BEEN GONE THROUGH A PROCESS AND THAT A PROCESS INVOLVES THE, UM, OUR RIPARIAN AREA OR ANY ECOLOGICAL SENSITIVE PORTION OF THE TRAIL OR ANYTHING THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION. WE'LL JUST SAY THAT THE WHOLE REPORT THAT THOSE FOUR SECTORS DOES, IT INVOLVE THE WATERSHED TOO. AND YOU CAN LESSER DEGREE IN WHICH THEY WOULD BE INVOLVED TODAY. THEY HA THEY WERE DOING THE PROGRAM, OR IF IT WAS, IF IT WAS BEING MANAGED DIRECTLY BY PARKS IS PROBABLY A BETTER QUESTION. RIGHT? WELL, I BELIEVE THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION, I DON'T BELIEVE, I KNOW THE APPROXIMATE RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HOLD THIS AGREEMENT AND WE'RE GOING TO BE THE CONTRACT MANAGERS. THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT IS A FULL PARTNER IN THIS RELATIONSHIP. AND SO FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PERSPECTIVE, IT'S IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO MAINTAIN THAT RELATIONSHIP AS CO AS COLLEAGUES, AND THEN, AND THROUGHOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP. SO WATERSHED PROTECTION HAS BEEN A PART OF THIS PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING. RIGHT. AND SO WHAT DID WE SAID AS THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THANK YOU TRAIL FOUNDATION. UM, YOU'VE BEEN IN SINCE 2003, WE GOT IT FROM HERE. THANKS FOR THE CAPITAL OF THE 17.5 MILLION INJECTION AND CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS YOU'VE DONE SO FAR. AND HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT? AND, YOU KNOW, WE STILL, WE'RE GOING TO PART WAYS, HOW WOULD THAT IMPACT RIGHT NOW? THE SYSTEM? OKAY, WELL, THE ASSETS THAT WERE IN PLACE WILL REMAIN IN PLACE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE DON'T, WE AS APPROXIMATE GREEN TIN DEPARTMENTS DON'T HAVE THE CAPITAL FORMS, OR EVEN AS I WAS WRITING AND TALKED ABOUT HER FOR ABILITY TO FUNDRAISE, TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THAT SPACE, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IT AS HIGH A LEVEL AS WE ARE. WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THE TRAIL FOUNDATION IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO SO. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS IS THAT THE CURRENT ASSETS THAT ARE IN PLACE, WHAT REMAIN THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE ASSETS WILL PROBABLY NOT BE AS HIGH OF QUALITY AS YOU'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW. AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT THIS AGREEMENT WITH THE FULL, WITH THE FULL UNDERSTANDING TRAILS FOUNDATION, SCHOOL, UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT TRAIL AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL THAT THEY POSSIBLY CAN, WHICH WE BELIEVE WILL BE A HIGHER LEVEL THAN WE'RE MAINTAINING IT RIGHT NOW. I DON'T WANT TO PUT EXTRA PRESSURE ON THEM, BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT. THEY HAVE THAT. THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITIES WE BELIEVE THEY WILL EVENTUALLY LIKE THIS IS A PHASED APPROACH. SO I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT HAPPENING TOMORROW BECAUSE THERE'S A PHASED APPROACH WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE CAPABILITIES TO PROVIDE A QUALITY THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO, OR WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN. GREAT, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. AND THE LAST ONE IS JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR FOLKS WHO ARE LOOKING AT SLIDE. WELL, THAT IS THE MAP WITH THE DIFFERENT CAPITAL PROJECTS LISTED ON IT. AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS A DIFFERENT SORT OF MAP SLIDE 11, WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PROPOSED PARTNERSHIP PHASING, WHICH SHOWS THE VARIOUS REGIONS IN THIS ONE, ALL BUT FOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS ALREADY DONE. SO WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT AS, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE ARE FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS, I'M ASSUMING, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY LOOK AT THIS, ISN'T ALL THE, TO BE, MOST OF THIS IS THE, AS IS THE CURRENT. I MEAN, TH TH THE CURRENT STATUS OF WHERE PROJECTS ARE, YOU KNOW, FROM GOING BACK FROM THE, I SAW 2007, 2006. YEAH. A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS ARE ALREADY EXISTING, UM, BECAUSE OF THE DROUGHT [01:25:01] FOUNDATION OR SUPPORTING BECAUSE OF THE TRIAL FOUNDATION. AND THEN THERE'S A SMALL FOUR RIGHT NOW THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE. I DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE ANYBODY ILLUSION LIKE, OH MY GOD, WE HAVE ALL THESE ONES. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, ALTHOUGH I KNOW I CAN APPRECIATE, UM, YEAH. UM, MS. ANDERSON, DURING THE CLARIFICATION THAT ANY SITE CIP IS NOT PART OF THIS, IT IS GOING TO GO THROUGH A SEPARATE CIP PROCESS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T HAVE THEIR GLASSES ON IT HAS, IT WAS ON THE SCREEN. SO APPRECIATE IT RIGHT THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, UM, FOR HEIDI OR CHRISTINE? I JUST HAD ONE THING. AND THEN WE CAN, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, AND THAT IS, UM, AT THAT CONTRACT SIGNED CONCESSIONS COMMITTEE MEETING, I W YOU KNOW, I ASKED YOU ABOUT THIS IDEA ABOUT, UM, THAT I ASKED WHETHER THE TRAIL WAS EVER GOING TO BE CLOSED FOR ANY KIND OF FUNDRAISING EVENT. AND YOU SAID, ABSOLUTELY NOT, WHICH IS, UM, RIGHT. THAT IT WOULD NOT BE CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC FOR THOSE KINDS OF EVENTS. AND I KNOW THAT YOU, UM, ARE DEFINITELY FEEL THAT WAY. I, IS IT IN THE CONTRACT ANYWHERE? ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, IS THAT ADDRESSED? YES, IT IS. SO, AND THE LANGUAGE SAYS EXACTLY THAT, IS THAT WHAT THE LANGUAGE SAYS, BUT THE TRAIL WILL NOT BE CLOSED. YES. AND THAT WE MADE FROM TIME TO DIME HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A PARTIALLY OPEN, UH, EVENT IN A CERTAIN PART OF THE PARK. BUT THAT MEANS THAT WELL, OVER 50% OF THE PARK IS STILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. AND AS I MENTIONED AT CONTRACTS AND CONCESSIONS, UH, LAST WEEK AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT THAT WOULD BE OUTLINED VERY CLEARLY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. AND THEN THAT WOULD REFER TO LIKE, POTENTIALLY AS HAVING A LITTLE SOMETHING AT WHAT WE CALL BRAZOS BLUFF, WHICH IS A DECK THAT WE INSTALLED LAST YEAR AT THE BASE OF THE FOUR SEASONS PARKLAND, RIGHT THERE. WE COULD POTENTIALLY POST A LITTLE SOMETHING THERE FOR DONORS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT THAT'S CONSIDERED PARTIALLY OPEN, WHICH MEANS THE REST 50% OR MORE OF THE REST OF THE PARK IS STILL OPEN. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TOWN LIKE METROPOLITAN PARK, WHICH IS OVER 200 ACRES OF PARKLAND. SO THE TRAIL ITSELF WILL NEVER BE CLOSED. THE ONLY REASON SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN TO THE TRAIL IS IF, AND WHEN WE HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT THAT REQUIRES US TO RE ALIGN OR REDIRECT THE TRAIL FOR A TEMPORARY PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH WE WOULD ALWAYS WORK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO DO AND FIND AN ALTERNATE ROUTE FOR THAT MOMENT IN TIME, WHICH, WHICH HAS HAPPENED BEFORE AND WILL LIKELY HAPPEN AGAIN WHEN CERTAIN PROJECTS CAN, UM, TO CONSTRUCTION. THANK YOU. DO I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY BOARD MEMBERS? OKAY. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, TO, TO MOVE ON THIS? OKAY. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE. OKAY. SO YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE TO RECOMMEND FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. YEAH. CITY COUNCIL FOR NEGOTIATION, EXECUTION OF A PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH THE TRAIL FOUNDATION FOR THE OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE IN PROGRAMMING OR THE, AND ROY BUTLER, HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL AT TOWN LAKE METROPOLITAN PARK. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I REMEMBER THE CARLA. WAS THAT A SECOND? SO WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, ANYBODY OPPOSED? I DON'T SEE ANYBODY. I KEEP TALKING, MAN. I CAN'T, I CAN'T SEE YOU. OKAY, PERFECT. SO, AND DID YOU VOTE IN FAVOR? YES. OKAY. SO I THINK, UM, WE HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UM, FOR COMING AND FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL WHAT THE CHILD FOUNDATION DOES FOR THE, OUR, UH, ARTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOURSELF. THANK YOU. [B.2. Discussion and possible action on Contracts and Concessions Committee and Financial Committee memberships.] OKAY. MOVING ON THE NON-CONSENT AND THE FIRST THING WE HAVE IS THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON CONTRACTS AND CONSENSUS COMMITTEE AND FINANCIAL COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIPS. SO I THINK WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, POINT OUR NEWEST BOARD MEMBER, WHERE MEMBER HAGMAN TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. AND SHE HAS GRACEFULLY AGREED TO PARTICIPATE ON THAT COMMITTEE, CORRECT. BOARD MEMBER HAGMAN. SO DO I HAVE, SO I WILL MOVE TO DO THAT. DO I HAVE A SECOND REMEMBERED? I MEAN, [01:30:01] VICE CHAIR DIPLOMA, THANK YOU ALL IN FAVOR. ANYBODY OPPOSED? NO. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE, UM, KIND OF SWITCH AND MOVE BOARD MEMBER, UH, COTTON CYBELE OVER TO THE CONTEXT AND CONCESSIONS COMMITTEE. SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SHE BE, UM, UH, TO THAT COMMITTEE AND, AND ROLL OFF OF THE FINANCE. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU, UM, AND YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THAT, CORRECT? BOARD MEMBER COTTON CYBIL YES. THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE FINE. OKAY, GREAT. SO, SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPOINT HER TO THE CONTRACTS AND CONSENSUS COMMITTEE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? YES. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER BERNARD. ALL IN FAVOR, ANYBODY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT IS TAKEN CARE OF. OKAY. SO MOVING ON TO THE [B.3. Discussion and possible action to renew the motion made June 22, 2021 regarding a recommendation to the Planning Commission related to a Conditional Use Permit for the sale of wine and beer at the Zilker Cafe.] NEXT ITEM, WHAT IS THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RENEW THE MOTION? MAY JUNE TWENTIES, SECOND, 2021 REGARDING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING AND, UM, EXCUSE ME, CAN MISS UNRELATED TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE SELL OF WINE AND BEER AT THE SILVER CAFE? I DO HAVE TO SAY WITH THIS, THAT I AM A LITTLE FRUSTRATED. I FEEL LIKE WE INITIALLY, WE, WE HAD OUR VOTE, WE WERE UNAWARE THAT OUR VOTE DIDN'T COUNT AFTER THE MEETING, WE WERE TOLD THAT, WAIT A SECOND, THIS DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAD, YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE FULL SIX MEMBERS FOR THE QUORUM. SO THEREFORE IT DOESN'T COUNT. WE WERE NOT TOLD THAT WE NEEDED THAT BEFORE THE MEETING WE FOUND OUT ON FRIDAY THIS FRIDAY, ALTHOUGH WE HAD PLANNED TO BRING IT BACK UP BEFORE THE BOARD, SO WE COULD DO IT PROPERLY AND HAVE ALL OUR T'S CROSSED. I'S DOTTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE DOING EVERYTHING ACCORDING TO CODE. AND THEN WE WERE TOLD THAT ACTUALLY, ACCORDING TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT. WE COULD JUST VOTE ON ACTUALLY HAVING THAT PARTICULAR ITEM COME TO THE, UM, COME TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING. AND WE WERE TOLD THAT ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON. SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXERCISE IN FRUSTRATION BECAUSE IT'S, WE'VE JUST HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH THIS. AND I THINK THAT WE, IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR AT OUR INITIAL MEETING THAT WE HAD OUR FOUR VOTES. WE HAD TWO STATEMENTS THAT INDICATED TWO OTHER MEMBERS AGREED ON OUR POSITION AND WE ARE STILL HERE. WE ARE. AND IT IS GOING TO BE SEPTEMBER BEFORE WE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. AND WE DO HAVE, UM, I'M THINKING THAT WE DO HAVE A, UM, SOMEBODY FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT HERE, BUT BEFORE WE, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT, IF THEY COULD KIND OF GIVE US A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, UM, WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS, WHY W W WHAT WE DID AND IN VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, WHY WE, HI, THIS IS CHAD SHAW WITH THE, UH, CITY LAW DEPARTMENT. UM, THAT'S, I HONESTLY, THAT IS NOT WHY I AM HERE, NOR IS THAT THE SUBJECT OF THIS ITEM. UM, SO I WASN'T REALLY PREPARED TO DISCUSS THAT, BUT IF YOU DID HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ITEM BEFORE YOU, I AM HAPPY TO ASSIST WITH THAT. SO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY AT OUR NEXT MEETING FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT? BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO ASK LEGAL AND OKAY. WE CAN THAT, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. ALTHOUGH AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, OF COURSE, YOU WILL BE TAKING UP THIS ITEM AGAIN, AS IF IT WERE THE FIRST TIME YOU TOOK IT UP. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE, ALTHOUGH IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS OF THE LAW DEPARTMENT, PARTICULARLY AS THE CHAIR, AND YOU CAN EMAIL YOUR USUAL, UM, CONTACT WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT, BUT THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE SUBJECT OF WHAT YOU'RE NEXT OF THE ITEM AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. I THINK THAT WOULD JUST BE A DISCUSSION OF THE ITEM THAT WOULD BE . SO WE, SO I'M TRYING TO, IS THERE, I GUESS I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED THAT IT'S, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY MEMOS FROM THE LORD. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY MEMOS FROM THE LAW DEPARTMENT. I HAVEN'T, I'VE JUST BEEN DIRECTED THROUGH THE, UM, THE, UM, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECS THAT THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON. YOU HAVEN'T SENT ANYTHING TO US DIRECTLY THAT I'VE BEEN AWARE OF. I ALSO WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE LAW DEPARTMENT AND THE PARKS BOARD. I KNOW THAT THE LAW DEPARTMENT OBVIOUSLY REPRESENTS THE CITY AND AN EXPLANATION OF ITS RELATIONSHIP TO THE BOARD [01:35:01] AND KIND OF WHERE WE STAND AS FAR AS YOUR ROLE AND OUR ROLE. SURE. AND, AND WE DO HAVE A LAWYER WHO TYPICALLY WORKS WITH THE PARKS BOARD AND WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. UM, AND WHO IS THAT? SORRY, CHAIR. THIS IS VICE CHAIR, DEPALMA, AS HE'S, AS OUR GUESTS FROM LEGAL DEPARTMENTS HERE, YOU KNOW, COULD WE FIND OUT WHY YOUR QUESTION ISN'T GERMANE TO THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION SINCE IT IS THAT ACTION, WHICH IS CAUSING US TO RENEW THE MOTION MADE ON JUNE 22ND. SO I'M INTERESTED TO FIGURE OUT WHY THE QUESTION ITSELF ISN'T GERMANE TO THE AGENDA ITEM, BECAUSE IT IS A DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION. AND THEN THE RESULTING OF THE POSSIBLE ACTION IS, IS WHY DETERMINATION BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE MOTION BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS IF YOU WISH TO REOPEN DISCUSSION TO RENEW DISCUSSION OF AN ITEM THAT HAS ALREADY APPEARED BEFORE THIS BODY, IT IS NOT NECESSARY. ISN'T THERE A CAUSE, UH, MR. SHAW, AS TO WHY WE'RE REOPENING DOES NOT THE CAUSE PART GERMANE TO THE QUESTION I SUPPOSE THE CAUSE WOULD BE, WELL, IT'S NOT MY PLACE TO, TO BRING NEW INFORMATION TO THE BOARD, WHICH WOULD TYPICALLY BE THE REASON FOR, UM, REOPENING A DISCUSSION. TYPICALLY, OF COURSE, YOU MAKE A DECISION. UM, A LACK OF AN APPROVAL IS ALSO ALSO CONSTITUTES A DECISION THAT IS AS MUCH OF AN ACTION AS ANY OTHER ACTION. UM, AND TYPICALLY YOU WOULD THEN FORWARD THAT, THAT INFORMATION ON TO THE DECISION-MAKING BOARD, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS THE LAND USE WAS COMMISSIONED. UM, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT Y'ALL, THAT THIS BODY WANTED TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE AGAIN, PERHAPS WITH MORE MEMBERS PRESENT, BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOU HAD, UH, SEVERAL VACANCIES AT THE TIME. IT APPEARS YOU STILL DO, UM, AND HAD, AND WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION THAT HAD A BETTER CHANCE OF ACTUALLY ASSEMBLING PERHAPS SIX VOTES THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE WHAT, UH, WHAT WAS MORE OF AN AFFIRMATIVE STATEMENT. UM, BUT THAT AFFIRMATIVE STATEMENT IS NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR THE ACTION FOR THE ITEM TO MOVE AHEAD TO THE LAND USE COMMISSION. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS, AND, AND DIRECTOR MCNEELY CAN, CAN ADD TO THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE I BELIEVE SHE WAS PROBABLY PRESENT FOR THAT. UM, WAS YOU, THIS BODY WANTED TO, TO EXPLORE THIS ITEM A LITTLE FURTHER AND PERHAPS COME UP WITH A, UH, AN, A EMOTION THAT WOULD, UH, GET THE APPROVAL OF A FORUM OF THE BODY BOARD MEMBER FAILS TO, DO YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION? YES, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SO THE LANGUAGE ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT AUGUST 24TH IS, AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RENEW THE MOTION MAY JUNE 22ND, 2021. MY QUESTION IS IF WE VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS, DO WE HAVE TO, ARE WE, DO WE HAVE TO RENEW THE EXACT MOTION THAT WAS MADE ON JUNE 22ND? BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE, THE LENGTH PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THAT MOTION. AND I AM PLANNING TO PROPOSE A DIFFERENT MOTION WHEN WE TAKE UP THIS, THE SUBSTANCE OF THIS ISSUE. SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT, WHAT IT IS WE ARE VOTING ON TONIGHT, WHAT OUR OPTIONS WILL BE AT THE NEXT MEETING. AND IS THAT A QUESTION OR ME A REMEMBER? OKAY, SURE. UM, UNDER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, WHICH OF COURSE THIS BOARD IS SUBJECT TO, UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL MOTIONS BY WHICH ONE CAN REVISIT A PREVIOUSLY DECIDED, UH, ISSUE. UH, THE MOTION TO RENEW IS ONE OF THEM, BUT IT, ALL OF THE CASES THAT I AM FAMILIAR WITH, AND, AND WE SEE THESE AT THE LAND USE COMMISSION, WE SEE THIS A COUNCIL THAT IS A TWO STEP PROCESS. THERE IS FIRST BECAUSE THERE IS GENERALLY AN INCLINATION NOT TO REVISIT AN ISSUE. ONCE IT'S BEEN DECIDED WE'D LIKE IT TO MOVE ALONG. WE LIKE THINGS TO BE EFFICIENT, BUT THE FIRST STEP IS ALWAYS TO PUT IT BEFORE THE BODY, IF THEY WISH TO REOPEN THE ISSUE AT ALL. AND WHEN YOU SAY REOPENED, THE LANGUAGE OF RENEW IS THE SAME THING AS REOPEN ARE YOU USING IT? IT IS. AND I USE THE WORD, THE TERM REOPEN BECAUSE THE FORMAL MOTIONS THAT ONE MIGHT USE WOULD BE RECONSIDERATION, WHICH WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THE SAME MEETING, OF COURSE, UH, RENEW AND RESCIND OR AMEND, WHICH ARE ALL EMOTIONS THAT BASICALLY DO THE SAME THING, WHICH IS PUT THE DECISION TO, AND THAT'S WHY HE'S REOPENED [01:40:01] BECAUSE IT IS NOT A SPECIFIC, IT, IT COVERS ALL OF THOSE ISSUES. SO THE ISSUE OF SHOULD THE BODY REOPEN THIS ISSUE AT ALL, IS THE FIRST VOTE. AND THEN TYPICALLY THE, IF THE, UH, IF YOU GET AN APPROVAL OF THAT INITIAL MOTION, THEN THE ITEM IS PUT BACK ON A FUTURE AGENDA TO DISCUSS AS IF IT HAD NEVER BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE. SO YOU WOULD NOT BE LIMITED TO ANY PARTICULAR MOTIONS THAT WERE MADE AT THAT TIME. YOU WOULD TAKE UP THE ITEM AGAIN AS IF THIS WERE THE FIRST TIME. OKAY. AND SO THE, A PROPER MOTION ON THIS ITEM WOULD BE TO MOVE RENEWAL OF THE ACTION TAKEN OR OF THE MOTION TAKEN ON JUNE 22ND, THE PROPER THAT THE PROPER MOTION IN THIS CASE. WELL, A PROPER MOTION I SHOULD SAY. I DON'T WANT TO, AGAIN, I'M, I DON'T WANT TO PRESUME ANYTHING. WHAT WOULD BE TO RENEW THE MOTION, BASICALLY THE LANGUAGE YOU SEE, SEE BEFORE YOU ON THE AGENDA RENEW THE MOTION MAY JUNE 22ND, ET CETERA. UM, AND PERHAPS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SET THE DATE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BACK ON THE AGENDA. IT SOUNDS LIKE BOTH THE CHAIR AND THE DIRECTOR HAVE PROPOSED A DATE. SO, UM, YOU MIGHT WANT TO INCLUDE THE DATE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO INCLUDE THAT DATE IN YOUR MOTION, SO THAT IT, SO THAT THERE'S CLEAR DIRECTION AS TO WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT. GO AHEAD, BOARD MEMBER, COME SEIBEL. THIS JUST SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF DOUBLE TALK TO ME. I DON'T THINK OUR QUESTIONS ARE GETTING ANSWERED. I THINK WE DID COME TO A CONCLUSION AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS NOT THAT WE WANT TO REVISIT IT, BUT THAT IT WAS BOUNCED BACK TO US BY LEGAL SAYING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A COMPLETE VOTE BECAUSE WE HAD PEOPLE MISSING THAT WERE NOT APPOINTED TO THE CHAIRS. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE SIX PEOPLE PRESENT AT THE MEETING, EVEN THOUGH WE ADD SIX POSITIVE VOTES FOR THAT MOTION. SO I'M VERY CONFUSED BY THIS. OH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. SORT OF APPROACH TO IT. AND HERE'S WHAT YOU COULD DO IF YOU WANTED TO BRING IT BACK. I MEAN, WE THOUGHT WE HAD TAKEN CARE OF THIS ITEM, AND THEN LATER WE FOUND OUT THAT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE. SO WHAT WE TRYING TO DO I BELIEVE IS TO REMEDY THAT. YEAH. SO BOARD MEMBER, COTTON CYBER, PLEASE KNOW THAT THE ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD OR BEFORE THE CHAIR WAS THAT YOU COULD, WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED LAST AT THE LAST MEETING FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO DID NOT WANT TO RECOMMEND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THERE WERE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO DID WANT TO RECOMMEND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. AND THERE WERE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD THEIR STATEMENTS READ INTO THE RECORD AMONG THIS BODY. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE WAS SOME DISAGREEMENT AS TO WHETHER IT COULD ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD OR WHETHER THAT PARTICULAR, BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT A SIX AFFIRMATIVE VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WHETHER OR NOT THAT ACTION WOULD BE CONSIDERED, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR THE CONSIDERATION BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THEREFORE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS BODY PREFERRED TO BRING IT BACK FOR CONSIDERATION OR RENEWAL OR ALL THOSE WORDS THAT, THAT ARE A LOT DEPARTMENT HELPED US UNDERSTAND THAT WE COULD USE SO THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A SIX SOMETHING VOTE. THAT'S THE, THAT WAS THE GOAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS NO CONFUSION AS TO WHAT IT IS THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD WANTED TO RECOMMEND BE IT THAT THEY WANT TO DENY THEY RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE PERMIT, OR BE IT THAT THEY RECOMMEND THE DEPARTMENT, UH, APPROVAL OF THE PERMIT. UH, THE SOVEREIGN BOARD, THAT THAT IS THE ENTITY THAT MAKES THE DECISION IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THIS, WE COULD HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD TIME, BUT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS BOARD PREFERRED TO HAVE A MORE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF SIX SOMETHING, RIGHT. EITHER WAY, WHICHEVER WAY THAT WOULD ADD UP. RIGHT. AND THE REASON WE WANTED TO DO THAT WAS BECAUSE CITY LEGAL HAD ONE PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE, I HAD CERTAINLY HEARD FROM OTHER ATTORNEYS THAT HAD A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE DOING EXACTLY WHAT WAS CORRECT FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. AND THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY DEBATABLE. SO THAT'S WHY WE FELT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE DOING IT CORRECTLY TO MAKE SURE WE, EVERYBODY WAS, UM, SATISFIED. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE CODE, IT DOES SAY THAT WE NEED SIX VOTES. SO, AND I, SO THAT'S STILL, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR, TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE 42 WOULDN'T, UM, YOU COULD STILL GO FORWARD. I THINK. UM, YEAH. SO MY QUESTION HERE IS MY UNDERSTANDING HAD ALWAYS BEEN THAT A QUORUM OF THE PARKS BOARD. SO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE A LEGITIMATE AND [01:45:01] VOTE ON SOMETHING WAS SIX BOARD MEMBERS. BUT NOW WE'RE SAYING THAT WE HAD MISUNDERSTOOD THE BYLAWS AND THAT YOU ACTUALLY NEED SIX AFFIRMATIVE VOTES TO PASS ANYTHING. AND SO IT'S NOT, SO WHAT IS THE, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM THEN? IS IT, WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT WOULD THE QUORUM BE? JUST, IT COULD BE SIX OR MORE FAST IF THE ATTORNEY WANTS TO ADDRESS IT. SURE. AND, AND I'M NOT SURE. WELL, LET ME, IF YOU COULD RESTATE YOUR QUESTION, I WANT TO BE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE ACCUSED OF, OF, OF NOT ATTEMPTING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. I WILL SAY A QUORUM IS SIX MEMBERS TO RECOMMEND THIS ITEM. I BELIEVE YOU WOULD NEED A VOTE OF SIX MEMBERS AND A FAILURE. ANY OTHER VOTES THAT FAILS TO RECOMMEND THE ITEM IS A DENIAL OF THE ITEM, AND THAT COULD MOVE FORWARD. SO IT SOUNDS TO ME AS IF YOU HAD, WHAT FOUR, FOUR, YOU HAD A TOTAL OF SIX MEMBERS PRESENT AT YOUR LAST MEETING. SO YOU DID HAVE A QUORUM. THERE WAS A VOTE TAKEN, AND THUS YOU, THIS BODY DID ITS DUTY AND IT COULD MOVE FORWARD. AND I WOULD ASK THAT THE DIRECTOR CORRECT ME IF I MISUNDERSTAND ANY OF THE FACTS. BUT AGAIN, AS, AS THE DIRECTOR STATED, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THIS BODY WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING THAT THEY FELT WAS A BIT MORE DECISIVE RATHER THAN JUST, NO, MY QUESTION IS, I THINK THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN HAVING, UM, SIX BEING THE NUMBER NEEDED FOR A QUORUM AND SIX BEING THE NUMBER NEEDED TO SIX AFFIRMATIVE VOTES NEEDED TO PASS ANY MOTION. SO DO YOU GET WHAT I'M SAYING HERE? I GUESS I DO, BECAUSE BOTH OF THOSE STATEMENTS ARE CORRECT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SIX MEMBERS HERE TO HOLD A MEETING. I HAVE A QUORUM AND YOU DO IN FACT, NEED SIX MEMBERS TO PASS TO AFFIRMATIVELY, PASS AN ITEM. SO I THINK BOTH OF YOUR STATEMENTS ARE CORRECT UNLESS I'M MISUNDERSTANDING IT. I JUST, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALL BEING TROLLED HERE, BOARD MEMBER, I ALL DAY, I'M TRYING TO PULL UP THE BYLAWS AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, MY COMPUTER IT'S SPINNING. SO IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A SECOND, I CAN READ YOU THE EXACT ITEM I HAD ON THE BYLAWS, WHICH IS WHERE THE, UM, THE DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER THIS SHOULD MOVE FORWARD OR SHOULD IT MOVE FORWARD WHERE THAT COMMUNITY. SO IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE ME A SECOND IT'S TIME TO PULL IT UP. I THINK THAT THAT MIGHT HELP CLARIFY YOUR QUESTION, BUT UNFORTUNATELY MY COMPUTER'S JUST BEEN, SO I NEED A SECOND, I THINK. YEAH, I THINK THAT IT'S, UM, I THINK THAT EMOTION, THAT'S ONLY THE PASSES FOUR TO TWO FAILS. SO I THINK THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN IS THAT WE, UM, THAT DOES CONSTITUTE A RECOMMENDATION IN THE SENSE THAT YES, THE PARKS BOARD HEARD AND, YOU KNOW, VOTED ON A RECOMMENDATION AND DAVID'S OPINION WITH A QUORUM. UM, SO I GUESS MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT SOUNDS LIKE WE FULFILLED THOSE, THAT REQUIREMENT FOR HEARING IT, UM, BEFORE IT WENT FORWARD. UM, BUT IF WE, UM, YEAH, SO YEAH, WE FULFILLED THAT REQUIREMENT. UM, AND THEN THERE'S THIS PROCESS FOR HEARING AN ITEM AGAIN, UM, THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UM, IF WE, IF WE WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER VOTE. UM, SO, AND I, I KNOW FROM LIKE MY TIME ON THE BOARD, THAT THIS HAS KIND OF BEEN A RECURRING SPEED, WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN ITEMS THAT WE WANTED TO CAUSE WE TOOK A VOTE ON, AND THEN WE DECIDED THAT WE, WE TRIED TO HEAR THEM AGAIN OR BE, UM, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE TOLD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK WHILE STAFF WAS CLARIFYING THIS PROCESS OVER WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU WANT TO HEAR AN ITEM AGAIN. AND WE'VE KIND OF DONE THAT SEVERAL WAYS OVER THE COURSE OF MY TIME ON THE BOARD, JUST BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS CONFUSION ABOUT IT. UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, MY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS IS I THINK IT'S REFLECTED THAT THERE WERE SIX MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WHO WERE OPPOSED TO THE DUFFERS CUP MOVING FORWARD. UM, AND I THINK THAT SUBSTANTIVELY THAT SENTIMENT FROM SIX MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IS, UM, AS REFLECTED IN THE RECORD. UM, SO I THINK THAT THAT WILL BE THERE. UM, BUT I ALSO, YEAH, I'M SORRY, THIS IS JUST VERY CONFUSING AND I'M PROCESSING IT OUT LOUD RIGHT NOW. CAUSE [01:50:01] I'M SO CONFUSED, BUT YEAH, I ALSO, I WOULD ALSO, I WOULD EITHER, I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT MOVING TO HEAR IT AGAIN, IF WE WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER VOTE ON IT. GO AHEAD. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, SAY I AGREE WITH NINA. WE'VE HEARD, I THINK WE'VE HEARD A COUPLE OF EXPLANATIONS NOW THAT MAYBE DON'T LINE UP, BUT I DO THINK MAYBE WHAT MAKES ONE THING ABOUT THIS ISSUE, UM, IS THAT THE BYLAWS SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SIX AFFIRMATIVE VOTES TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE ACTION OF THE BOARD. AND ON THE, ON THE CUP ISSUE SPECIFICALLY, IT SAYS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY NOT CONSIDER THE CUP, UM, TEA WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS FORD. IT'S, IT'S AN INTERESTING LANGUAGE THAT BASICALLY SAYS THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN'T CONSIDER IT UNTIL IT HAS A PARKS BOARD RECOMMENDATION. SO IF THERE'S NOT AN EFFECTIVE ACTION BY THE PARKS BOARD, CAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDER IT? AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE BYLAWS MIGHT BE CORRECT, BUT IN THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE, IT REALLY HELPS PROCEDURALLY TO HAVE A EFFECTIVE ACTION OF THE BOARD TO MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS, TO PLANNING COMMISSION. IT COULD BECOME A QUESTION LATER, SAY THIS ENDED UP, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN LITIGATION, SOMEBODY LOOKING AT THIS AND IT WOULD SAY, WELL, COULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION EVEN VOTE ON THIS? IT DIDN'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS BOARD. I THINK SO IF I COULD INTERJECT BOARD MEMBER FAST, YOU DID AN F YOU VERY MUCH ARTICULATED WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY OR WHAT I MAYBE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT AS ARTICULATE AS YOU DID AS ELOQUENTLY. I DO THAT, BUT IT DID FINALLY PULL UP. AND EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID IS WHAT BOARD NUMBER FIVE SAID IS THE EXACT SITUATION. UH, IT DOES TALK ABOUT THERE BEING A SIX, SIX MEMBERS OF THE PARKS BOARD POINTS CONSTITUTES A QUORUM. IF A POOR, ANOTHER MEETING DOES NOT CONVENE, THEN, THEN YOU CAN'T HAVE THE MEETING. AND THAT TO BE EFFECTIVE, A BOARD ACTION MUST BE ADOPTED BY AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF A NUMBER OF MEMBERS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE A FORUM. SO THAT WOULD BE SIX PEOPLE JUST LIKE BOARD MEMBER FILE SIDE. AND THEN ADDING ONTO THAT IS THAT THE, THE CODE AS IT'S WRITTEN FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAYS THAT THEY CAN'T TAKE UP THE CP OR WITHOUT A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARK'S BOARD. SO THEY SHALL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS BOARD. AND THE QUESTION THEN BECOMES IS THE FOUR TO, AS YOU EXPLAINED, BOARD MEMBER OF RINALDI, WILL THAT, IS THAT AFFIRMATIVE? IS THAT EFFECTIVE OR DOES IT NEED TO BE THE SIXTH, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY TO DETERMINE WHETHER THIS BOARD WOULD LIKE TO RECONSIDER RENEW REFRESH REDISCUSS THAT THE ITEM SO THAT THERE COULD BE AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION OF SIX SOMETHING. THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER FAST FOR ARTICULATED. OKAY. UM, I THINK AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO RENEW THE MOTION MADE AT THE JUNE 22ND, 2021 PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEETING REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION RELATED TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF WINE AND BEER AT THE ZIPPER CAFE AND RECOMMEND THAT THIS ITEM COME BACK BEFORE THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARDS EDIT SEPTEMBER 28TH. MAYBE. SO DO I HAVE A SECOND? THANK YOU. REMEMBER, CUTTING CYCLE ALL IN FAVOR. OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S UNANIMOUS SO THAT OUR DECISION WAS MADE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HEY, THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. OKAY. WHICH IS PRESENTATION [B.4. Presentation and discussion regarding the results of the Hancock Golf Survey and next steps related to community engagement regarding improved shared use of the golf course and park space.] AND DISCUSSION REGARDING THE RESULTS OF THE HANCOCK GOLF SURVEY AND NEXT STEPS RELATED TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REGARDING IMPROVED, SHARED USE OF THE GOLF COURSE AND PARK SPACE. OKAY. AND WE HAVE, UM, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, ANTHONY SEGURA, AND KEVIN GO, MEGAN, ARE THEY HERE? WE ARE. GREAT. AWESOME. THANK YOU FOR COMING. WE ARE READY EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME. UH, WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE, UH, AS THE BOARD MEMBER IS CHAIR, UH, JUST MENTIONED, UH, UPDATE ON THE SURVEY THAT CAME OUT AS A REMINDER, THERE WAS A MEMORANDUM THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO EVERYBODY ON, UM, MAY 5TH OUTLINING THE RESULTS THAT INCLUDED OVER 500 PAGES WORTH OF COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM THE SURVEY. AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT PORTION, I WILL ELABORATE MORE ON THE SURVEY DETAILS, THE INSTRUMENT ITSELF, [01:55:01] UH, AND SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE. BUT BEFORE WE START, I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE'VE PARTAKED UPON SINCE 2012, UH, AND AS YIELDED A FRUITFUL CONVERSATION FOR MANY YEARS AND MANY AS CITIZEN ENGAGEMENTS, CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE DONE THE GIST OF THIS AND THE CLIFF NOTES OF THIS IS WE'RE NOT DONE. UH, WE'RE CONTINUED PREPARING TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE END WITH DOING ADDITIONAL CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS, UH, AND STILL COLLABORATING WITH CITIZENS BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE'D WORK WITH EVERYBODY AND GET EVERYBODY'S OPINION REGARDING, UH, THE BEST USAGE FOR HANCOCK FOR THE FUTURE. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WE'LL START WITH THE PRESENTATION FROM VERMILION AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE, UH, SEMI, ARE YOU ABLE TO BRING THAT UP OR DO YOU NEED ME TO, I GUESS AB HERE IS BRINGING IT UP. GIVE US TWO SECONDS. YEAH. OKAY. FIRST SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. THANKS. AND WHILE THEY'RE MOVING THROUGH THAT SIDE AND KEVIN GLENN AND THE DIVISION MANAGER FOR THE GOLF DIVISION AND THE ENTERPRISE FUND, UM, AS ANTHONY MENTIONED, WE'RE S WE'RE STILL MOVING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I THINK, UM, THIS REALLY STARTED BACK IN 2012, UM, WHEN WE STARTED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON HANCOCK GOLF COURSE AND, AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE FACED, UM, WE, WE, WE STARTED AN ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENT PROCESS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. AND DUE TO COVID, WE HAVE HAD SOME CHALLENGES OBVIOUSLY WITH MEETING AND BEING ABLE TO, TO HAVE ADDITIONAL ENGAGEMENTS, BUT YOU'LL SEE LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, HOW WE'VE CONTINUED THROUGH THIS ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. AND IT'S REALLY STARTED, UM, AS A RESULT OF CHALLENGES THAT THE GOLF COURSE HAD HAD FACED, UH, WITH FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. UM, WE WERE LOSING MONEY, MONEY AT HANCOCK AND, AND MOST OF THE GOLF COURSES HAVE GONE THROUGH SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. AND, UH, AS A RESULT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT AS A RESULT OF COVID, WE'LL SEE IN A MINUTE THAT THAT, THAT REALLY HAS, UM, HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY. UM, YOU KNOW, THE FOCUS OF THIS, OF THIS PROJECT AND OF THE SURVEY WAS THAT WE WANTED SOME CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN SHARED USE OF THE SPACE. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, UH, THE PLAYGROUNDS, THE SOCCER FIELDS THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRAILS. WE, I THINK TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THROUGHOUT THIS ENGAGEMENT PROCESS IS REALLY, IT ONLY RELATES TO THE GOLF COURSE AS IT RELATES TO GENERATING REVENUE AND HOW TO BEST MANAGE THAT PART OF THE FACILITY, WHICH IS, WHICH IS PART OF THE ENTERPRISE FUND ARE JUST TO BE CLEAR. GOLF IS THE ONLY ENTERPRISE FUNDED, UM, DIVISION IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR FOLKS WHO DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND. AND IN THE SIMPLEST OF TERMS IS, I LIKE TO SAY, IF WE DON'T BRING IT IN, WE CAN'T SPEND IT. UM, IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. AND WHILE WE STRUGGLED OVER THE YEARS TO DO THAT, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO HAVE GENERAL FUND SUPPORT OF THE GOLF ENTERPRISE FUND, UM, THAT'S THE MODEL. AND SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO CORRECT THAT FOR, FOR SEVERAL YEARS. AND HANCOCK WAS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, BUT NOT THE ONLY CHALLENGE WE'VE GOT SEVERAL OTHERS, UM, BUT IT WAS ONE OF THE FOCUSES. AND SO WE'VE CONTINUED TO THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS FOR A WHILE NOW, TRYING TO COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN AND BETTER OPTIONS. AND SO ALSO ONE OF THE MAIN FOCUSES ALL ALONG AS PROCESSES, THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF DISLOCATION GOLF COURSE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1899. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IT WAS 18 HOLES ORIGINALLY, HOWEVER, IT WAS REDUCED IN TONIGHT IN THE NIGHT OR LATE FIFTIES. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT HAS, THIS IS CONSIDERED STILL ONE OF THE LONGEST CONTINUING OPERATING GOLF COURSES WEST OF THE MISSISSIPPI. SO, UM, LONG HISTORY FOR GOLF, UM, THE CHALLENGES OF COURSE, I GO BACK TO IS THE LIMITED GENERAL FUND RESOURCES. WE ARE, WE ARE GOING TO BE TAXED, UM, AND CHALLENGED THROUGHOUT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT ABOUT WHERE WE SPEND OUR FUNDS AND HOW WE DO THAT. UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE GOLF ENTERPRISE FUNDS IS, HAS BEEN, UH, ONE OF THE FOCUSES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS FOR CITY COUNCIL, UH, WE'VE RAISED FEES, WE'VE DONE LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO TRY TO CURB THAT LOSS. UM, ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAPPENED AT HANCOCK IS THAT WE, WE REMOVED, UM, ONE OF THE LARGEST EXPENDITURES, WHICH IS RELATED TO PUSH OFF OPERATIONS. WE PUT A PAY STATION OPERATION IN, IN 20 OR JANUARY OF 2018. UH, I WOULD CALL THAT WE HAD MARGINAL SUPPORT FOR THAT IN THE BEGINNING. HOWEVER, IT IS REALLY TURNED OUT TO BE ONE OF THE MORE ADVANCED THOUGHT PROCESSES THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, TO, TO REALLY REDUCE OUR EXPENSES, BUT ALSO, UM, CHANGE THE WHOLE DYNAMICS OF HOW WE PRESENT HANCOCK GOLF COURSE. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WOULD WORK ANYWHERE ELSE IN ONE OF OUR FAMILIES OF GOLF COURSES, BUT, BUT MAYBE IT WILL DOWN THE ROAD. WE'LL SEE. UM, BUT WHAT THAT HAS RESULTED IN, AND THERE'S NO GOLF CARTS, IT'S WALKING ONLY, THERE'S A RECENTLY AN ARTICLE IN NEW YORK TIMES, [02:00:01] UM, THAT JUST SUPPORTED THAT AND ACTUALLY CALLED OUT HANCOCK GOLF COURSE AND, AND THE SUPPORT AND THE SUCCESS THAT IT'S HAD. UM, WE, WE DON'T HAVE PRO SHOP OPERATIONS SERVICES SO THAT THERE'S NOT STAFFING THERE. WHAT WE DO IS WE PUT A COURSE ATTENDED THERE THAT CHECKS RECEIPTS, UM, AND CHECKS ON ORDER OF THE GOLF COURSE THROUGHOUT THE DAY. UM, OF COURSE CONDITIONS ACTUALLY HAVE IMPROVED SOME BECAUSE THERE'S LESS GOLF CART TRAFFIC DRIVING AROUND THE GOLF COURSE BECAUSE IT'S WALKING ONLY, UM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE ON GOLF COURSE CONDITIONS, BUT THERE'S STILL CHALLENGES BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE GOLF COURSE IS, UH, FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, VERY OLD. UM, GENERALLY YOU RENOVATE GOLF COURSES WITHIN 25 TO 30 YEARS. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVEN'T EVER DONE THAT. WE'VE MOVED A FEW, UH, GREENS, BUT IT IS IN DIRE NEED OF REALLY, UM, REPLACEMENT OF, OF GRASSES THAT ARE MORE DROUGHT TOLERANT AND IMPROVED SURFACES. UM, WE DID REPLACE THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM, UM, BACK IN 2014 WITH RECLAIMED WATER. SO WE'RE NO LONGER USING POTABLE WATER. AND I THINK KEVIN MCKINNEY SPOKE TO EARLIER IN THE CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT RELATED TO THE FACT THAT THE GOLF COURSE HAS IMPROVED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AS A RESULT OF THAT INCREASE IN THE ABILITY TO WATER THE GOLF COURSE, UM, WITHOUT HAVING UTILIZE POTABLE WATER. UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT ANOTHER CHALLENGE. IT'S AGING EQUIPMENT. THE EQUIPMENT IS SORT OF THE, THE HAND-ME-DOWNS OR THE LEFTOVERS FOR THE OTHER GOLF COURSES, BECAUSE WE'VE REALLY BEEN TRYING TO NOT SPEND MONEY ON EQUIPMENT. UM, AND SO WE HAVE, WE HAVE A NEED THERE ON THAT. WE WILL FACE A NEEDED NEED TO RESOLVE IN THE NEXT COMING YEARS, THE NEXT SLIDE. SO I THINK ONE OF THE REALLY COOL PICTURES I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME, UM, IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING, UH, YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AND SCRATCHING OUR HEADS. AND JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO, TO, TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO NAVIGATE THIS CHALLENGE. ONCE AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST HANCOCK, IT'S BEEN THE ENTIRE GOLF AND FREE ENTERPRISE FUND. UM, I CAN TELL YOU, UM, THE EXCITING NEWS FOR HANCOCK IS THAT WE HAVE SEEN, UM, ALMOST DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF ROUNDS AT HANCOCK FROM 2018, AND WE MAY ACTUALLY DOUBLE IT, UM, 2018 TO 2021. UM, IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO RUN OVER 30,000 ROUNDS OF GOLF AT HANCOCK IN 2021 DURING A PANDEMIC. UM, AND DURING CHALLENGES WITH FOLKS HAVING DISPOSABLE INCOME AND OR UNEMPLOYMENT. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE SAYING WHY GOLF? I CAN TELL YOU STUDY AFTER STUDY AFTER STUDY, UM, REALLY SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS BACK REFLECTS BACK ON THE GROWTH PATTERNS OF WHO'S PLAYING GOLF. IT'S THE FASTEST POPULATION FOR FEMALES IT'S, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOW 27%. THEY WERE 23%. UM, WE ARE SEEING, UM, VERY DIVERSE POPULATIONS AT OUR GOLF COURSES NOTE WHILE WE DON'T TRACK DIVERSITY. I'M THERE EVERY DAY AT ONE OF THE GOLF COURSES OR MULTIPLE GOLF COURSES. AND I SEE MORE AND MORE, UM, UH, OF JUST ALL DIFFERENT AGES AND DIVERSITY GROUPS. UM, THE ASIAN POPULATION REMAINS THE SECOND FASTEST GROWING POPULATION OF GOLFER. UM, SO IT'S EXCITING TO SEE. AND I THINK PART OF THAT IS JUST THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WHO'VE GOTTEN BACK OUTSIDE OF THE PANDEMIC, UH, PUSHED PEOPLE OUTDOORS, UM, EVEN IN REALLY, REALLY WARM TIMES. SO LONG STORY SHORT, UH, HANCOCK GOLF COURSE HAS GONE FROM NOT REALLY MAKING A PROFIT IN OVER 20 YEARS. IT, WE WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY COVERED OUR EXPENSES FOR THIS YEAR AND THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH ENDS IN SEPTEMBER, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE ABOUT $71,000 IN SURPLUS REVENUES JUST FOR THE HANCOCK OPERATION. AND THAT TREND IS ALSO ONCE AGAIN, TRUE. THE OTHER DIVISIONS OF GOLF COURSES IS THAT, UH, WE WILL ELIMINATE THE ENDING, UH, THE NEGATIVE ENDING FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR IN ONE YEAR. UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BLACK FOR OPERATIONS FOR GOLF. SO THE GOOD NEWS IS WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A FEE INCREASE AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA KIND OF RIDE THAT SHIP AND HOPE THAT THE TREND CONTINUES EXCELLENT, ANTHONY. SO THE GENERAL OUTLOOK IS IMPORTANT TO, TO INDICATE US AS COUNTIES AS MENTIONED, UH, OUR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITIES, BECAUSE REALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT OF THIS. AND I KNOW WE'RE SHORT ON TIME ALREADY WITH A LOT TO DO. UH, WHAT I'LL HIGHLIGHT THE MOST HERE IS OUR $1 MILLION ANNUAL TRANSFER THAT WE'VE NORMALLY GOTTEN TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE FINANCES FOR, UH, HANCOCK AND FOR THE GOLF DIVISION IN GENERAL, ARE GOING TO BE REDUCED, UH, AND HAVE BEEN REDUCED. AND SO THAT MECHANISM OF HAVING TO RECOUP THE FUNDS IS THERE NOW WE'RE TO THAT POINT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MORE FINANCIAL SOLVENT ALL THE WAY AROUND, UH, OUR ENTERPRISE UNIT FOR GOLF AND IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE WORK ON MECHANISMS TO CONTINUE INCREASING GOLF ROUNDS, TO CONTINUE TO SUSTAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND I'M OPEN THAT THIS, UH, THAT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS NOT JUST AN ANOMALY OF A YEAR CONSIDERING WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THE, OR STILL IN THE PANDEMIC, BUT BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. SO IT'S IMPERATIVE TO SHOW THAT THE ABILITY TO RELY ON THE GENERAL FUND IS CONTINUALLY DECREASING [02:05:01] ON A REGULAR BASIS. AS I REMIND PEOPLE, THE TAX CAPS ARE STILL GOING TO BE AT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. UH, WE DO HAVE CHALLENGES THAT WILL PROHIBIT OUR ABILITY TO GET MORE FUNDING AND PLUS WITH A LOT OF GENERAL FUND NEEDS, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FUNDED AND A LOT OF WANTS AND NEEDS. SO UNFORTUNATELY WE WILL HAVE TO FIND A FINANCIAL MEANS TO BE SOLVENT, UH, GOING FORWARD, UH, WITH THE ENTERPRISE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. I ANTHONY. AND IF I CAN ADD, UM, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'LL BE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT IN 2023, THAT THE, UM, THE TRANSFER IS ZERO. SO, UH, WE, WE DID FORECAST A ZERO TRANSFER IN 23. OKAY. AND SO BACK TO YOU ON THE CONTINUED TRANSPARENCY, SO WE WE'VE GONE THROUGH, UM, FAIRLY HEALTHY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, EVEN DESPITE I WOULD SAY COVID SO, UM, I WON'T GO OVER EVERY MEETING HERE. UM, I THINK THE POINT THAT ANTHONY WAS ALSO MAKING IS THAT WHAT THIS MEETING IS DOING IS SORT OF BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PARKS BOARD. AND THEN WE WANT TO GO BACK THROUGH AN ENGAGEMENT PROCESS ONCE WE COMPLETE, UM, UH, ONCE WE COMPLETE THE FISCAL YEAR AND WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW, UH, WE ENDED UP WITH RESULTS AND THEN GO BACK THROUGH AN ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. AND, AND I THINK, UM, WE'VE GONE THROUGH SEVERAL SURVEY PROCESSES, THE MOST RECENT SURVEY ANTHONY'S GOING TO SPEAK TO, UM, REALLY RELATED, UM, BRINGING IN AUSTIN ENERGY TO HELP US THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO IT WAS A THIRD PARTY AND THE BEST, THE NEXT SLIDE. AND, AND SO LEAVE IT ON THIS SLIDE HERE, THE COMMUNITY SURVEYS HERE, PORTION OF THIS GIVES AN OUTLINE OF WHAT WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY SINCE 2020 OF MOST RECENT. AND SO, AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RATIONALE FOR HAVING TO DO ONE MORE COMMUNITY SURVEY AND GOING BIGGER THAN WHAT WE'VE DONE PREVIOUSLY. AND SO WE DID COMMUNITY SURVEYS THAT WAS AN ONLINE, IT WAS INITIATED BY ARD. IT WAS TRACKED BY PARTS SPECIFICALLY, WE DID THAT IN FEBRUARY THROUGH MAY OF 2020 WHEN WE YIELDED 343 RESPONSES, WHICH WASN'T TOO BAD CONSIDERING WE TRIED TO GET THE WORD OUT, BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO RECOUP AS MANY RESPONSES IN RESPONSE TO THAT. WE HAD, WE WERE AWARE THAT THE HANCOCK CONSERVANCY HAD DONE ITS OWN, UH, SURVEY ITSELF WITHIN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT YIELDED 725 RESPONSES. UH, WE OURSELVES DID SOMETHING TOO, UH, SIMILAR WITHIN, UH, OUR GOLF COURSES, UH, AND ASKED, UH, SOME MORE QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT. IT STILL DIDN'T GIVE US ENOUGH IN TERMS OF WHAT IS THE OVERALL ARCHING VIEW OF EVERYBODY IN REGARDS TO CITIZENS OF BOSTON? UH, NEXT LOT. SO AS KEVIN ALLUDED TO, WE DID WORK WITH, UH, AUSTIN ENERGY'S DATA NOW, UH, ANALYTICS AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE DIVISION. THE GROUP SOLELY WORKS ON SURVEY CREATION, FOCUS GROUP WORKS. AND SO THAT'S ALL THEY DO. THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE GEARED TOWARDS DOING SURVEY ANALYSIS. UH, AND SO WE SHOWED THEM ALL OF THE SURVEYS, ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE HAD DONE PREVIOUSLY. AND WE STEPPED ASIDE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO REMOVE ANY KIND OF BIAS OR INFLUENCE AT ALL IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS AND SAID, HEY, WE NEED YOUR EXPERTISE AND DOING THE SURVEY THAT WILL HELP YIELD QUESTIONS TO THE POPULOUS. AND I'VE USED AUSTIN ENERGY, A SURVEY FOR, UH, WHEN I WAS WITH, WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AND YIELDED VERY GOOD RESULTS. AND SO I WAS CONFIDENT THAT WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR THEM WAS GOING TO BE ACHIEVED BY THAT AS ONE OF THE CALLERS ALLUDED TO EARLIER, IT WAS ONLY A TWO WEEK SURVEY. IT WAS CONDUCTED BETWEEN MARCH 9TH AND THE 23RD. AND THAT'S BECAUSE NORMALLY EMAIL SURVEYS WHEN THEY'RE SENT OUT, USUALLY YIELD THE MOST RESPONSES WITHIN THE FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS. AND SO ANYTHING PAST TWO WEEKS IS REALLY NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. AND SO THERE WERE THREE MECHANISMS OF WHICH THE SURVEY WAS FILLED OUT. ONE WAS THE EMAIL THAT WE SENT OUT A UNIQUE LINK. IT WASN'T PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEND IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO TAKE ON YOUR BEHALF OR REPEAT MORE THAN ONCE. IT WAS ONE UNIQUE LINK, YOU KNOW, SENT OUT TO 40,000 RANDOM CITIES, CITIZENS ACROSS ALL 10 COUNCIL DISTRICTS THAT, UH, AUSTIN ENERGY HAD DONE THROUGH THE RANDOMIZATION PROCESS. WE HAD A SECOND MECHANISM, WHICH WAS AN OPEN LINK THAT WAS SHARED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, CONSERVANCY GROUPS, OR GOLF PARTNERS THAT PROVIDE ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE SURVEY THEMSELVES. IF YOU DIDN'T GET AN EMAIL SURVEY, THEN YOU COULD STILL PROVIDE YOUR FEEDBACK. AND THIRDLY, AT THE SIR AT THE GOLF COURSES THEMSELVES, WE PROVIDED THEM A QR CODE, UH, WHICH WE HAD PEOPLE, UH, WHEN THEY SIGNED IN AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE SURVEY THEMSELVES. SO FOR YOUR STATISTICAL BUFFS OUT THERE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THERE IS A CONFIDENCE LEVEL IN THE STATISTICAL WORLD THAT YIELDS THE ABILITY OF SAYING HOW, HOW THOROUGH IS AND RESPONSIVE IS YOUR SURVEY. UH, AND SO THE GOLD STANDARD IS A 95 CONFIDENCE LEVEL. WELL, FOR A POPULACE OF A MILLION PEOPLE, ALL YOU NEED IS THREE, A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR COMPLETE TO GET A CONFIDENCE LEVEL OF 95% OR ABOVE [02:10:02] OUR EMAIL SURVEY YIELD AT 3,629 RESPONSES, THE OPEN LINK, 4,754 RESPONSES. AND THE QR CODE WAS 721 RESPONSES RECEIVED. AND THE RESULTS THAT WE PROVIDED OR INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER, THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED. THEY WERE NOT COMBINED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THERE WERE SEPARATED SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THEM AS DIVERSE AS WE COULD IN TERMS OF THE RESPONSES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE, UH, ASKED AND POSED TO THE PUBLIC WAS, DO YOU SUPPORT HANCOCK GOLF COURSE AS A PUBLIC COURSE TO ALL? AND YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY YES OR NO. YOU SAID NO. THEN WE ASKED TO FOLLOW UP QUESTION THAT SAID, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? AND YOU COULD PROVIDE AN OPEN LINK. YOU COULD PROVIDE AN OPEN ANSWER QUESTIONS OF WHICH WE HAVE, UH, ALL OF THE DATA THAT PROVIDES THAT ONE. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY OF THE SURVEY ASKED FOR THE EMAIL, FOR EXAMPLE, 71% OF THE PEOPLE SAID, YES, THEY WANTED TO CONTINUE THAT A PUBLIC COURSE FALL 60% OF THOSE THAT HAVE AN OPEN LINK RESULTS SURVEY SAID, YES, THEY WANTED, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE GOLF COURSE FALL. AND OF COURSE, 92% SAID A YES FOR THE QR CODE. ONCE AGAIN, THEY WERE INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER AND NOT COMBINED. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO INDICATE WHAT WERE SOME OF THE MOST FREQUENT AND COMMON WORDS USED IN THE TEXT RESPONSE FOR THE EMAIL SURVEY. FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, SINCE IT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS INDEPENDENTLY SENT TO 40,000 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS, AND SOME OF THE WORDS THAT WE HAVE, OR SUCH KEYWORDS AS GOLF OR OUR PUBLIC SPACE, AUSTIN HANCOCK, UH, WE RECOGNIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S STILL AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO CONTINUE GOLF AT HANCOCK. AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT. AND BECAUSE OF THIS IS FURTHER SUBSTANTIATES, OUR RATIONALE FOR CONTINUING FOR ONCE AGAIN, WE HAD NOT BEEN, UH, THERE HAS BEEN NO INDICATION FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO ANY KIND OF, ANY KIND OF CHANGES TO THE COURSE OR TO CHANGE IT COMPLETELY FROM ITS CURRENT, UH, MECHANISM OF BEING A GOLF COURSE. BUT WE WANTED TO FURTHER SUBSTANTIATE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION WITH DATA THAT WE FELT COMFORTABLE AND CONFIDENT WITH THAT WOULD FURTHER BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND THESE ARE JUST BASIC INFORMATION THAT JUST GIVES A HEAT MAP IN TERMS OF WHERE IT WAS. WE'VE HEARD FROM DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT IT WASN'T DIVERSE ENOUGH. IT WASN'T SENT OUT TO ENOUGH PEOPLE. UH, THERE IS PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE ACTUALLY THE SURVEY ITSELF THROUGH AUSTIN ENERGY'S RANDOM, UH, UH, GROUP IS FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE AUSTIN ENERGY ACCOUNTS THAT ALSO GET ONLINE BILLS AND, AND THEY OPT IN FOR THOSE KINDS OF INFORMATION. SO IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN. YOU CAN SEE SOME AREAS DEPENDING UPON HOW, IF, AND IF THEY WANTED TO RESPOND OR WANT TO BE STRONGER THAN OTHERS. THE INTENT IS REALLY TO, TO SHOWCASE HOW IT WAS, UH, SOMETHING TO RANDOMLY SEND OUT TO AUSTINITES. SO WE COULD REALLY GET EVERYBODY'S OPINION REGARDING, AND WE CAN SEND YOU THE, THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION BOARD MEMBER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE HEAT MAP ITSELF AND SEE EXACTLY WHERE THIS CAME FROM NEXT SLIDE. AND KEVIN I'LL DO THIS ONE. SURE. UM, THE CURRENT PLAN IS THAT WE'RE SHARING THE RESULTS WITH THE PARKS BOARD. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THIS, THE HYBRID MODEL OF GOLF AND PARK ELEMENTS. UM, I THINK THAT PEOPLE GET ARE SOMEWHAT CONFUSED WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT ACID PARK. UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PUSH AND DISCUSSION ABOUT UTILIZING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, UH, FOR PASSIVE. THAT'S NOT WHAT PART SUPPORTS. UM, BUT WE, BUT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN, UM, IN NOT UTILIZING THE CURRENT ELEMENTS THAT ARE THERE TODAY, WHICH IT, WHICH DOES INCLUDE BASKETBALL COURTS AND RECREATION CENTER AND SOCCER FIELDS. AND, UM, AND I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY POTENTIALLY AS WE MOVE THROUGH, UM, RAISING FUNDS AND LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH PROGRAMS AND, AND CONSERVANCY GROUPS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE GOLF COURSE THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY YIELD, UH, IMPROVE AREAS FOR PASSIVE PLAY AS WELL. UM, WE PLAN TO CONTINUE CON UH, CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT AND THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS, WE'VE GOT TWO, UH, CONSERVANCY GROUPS THAT HAVE IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES, AND I'M NOT ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH THE PAR PROCESS YET. UM, BUT THEY'RE WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH THAT. UM, THEY DO HAVE DIFFERENT VISIONS, UM, BUT I THINK THEY ARE ALSO, UH, INTERESTED IN, IN SORT OF HELPING EACH OTHER. AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE THE GOLF ADVISORY. WHO'S BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN THE HANCOCK, UM, OPERATIONS FOR A LONG TIME. UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE FINANCIAL, UH, POLICY HAS REALLY, [02:15:01] ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE THIS ALL STARTED. UM, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WERE LOOKING AT WAYS TO, UH, TO TURN, TURN THE TIDE AND WE'VE DONE THAT PRESENTLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT IS AN ANOMALY. UH, WE'LL FIND OUT WHETHER OR WHETHER THIS IS A TREND. I THINK WE'RE WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS EVERY TIME WE THINK THINGS MIGHT SLOW DOWN BECAUSE OF THINGS OPENING BACK UP, WE GET BUSIER. SO THAT'S A GREAT TREND FOR US, UM, FOR SURE. UM, AND THAT WE HOPE THAT THIS IS A SUSTAINABLE, UH, PLAN, UM, INTO THE FUTURE. SO, UM, THAT WE DID THE CHALLENGES THAT STILL HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AS GOLF COURSE CONDITIONS. YEAH, I THINK WE, AND THE EQUIPMENT CHALLENGES. SO EVEN THOUGH WE MADE $70,000 THIS YEAR, WE ANTICIPATE MAKING ABOUT $70,000 THIS YEAR. THAT'S ONE FAIRWAY UNIT, AND THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE PRICE OF A FAIR UNIT IS BETWEEN 60 AND $70,000. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE STILL HAVE TO WORK TOWARDS. I GO BACK TO THESE CONSERVANCY GROUPS THAT ARE STILL INTERESTED IN FUN FUNDRAISING, AND EVEN OPENING UP THE FACILITY, UM, TO DO DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVENTS. WE HAVE A DISC GOLF, THE WATER DISC GOLF EVENT, UH, THAT TAKES PLACE IN NOVEMBER. THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT BRING IN DIFFERENT KINDS OF REVENUE. AND SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE, UM, HAVING VERY SMALL, ACOUSTIC TYPE, UM, CONCERTS THAT ARE DURING THE DAY AND NOT AT NIGHT. UM, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE, WE'VE SPOKEN TO LOTS OF DIFFERENT GROUPS ABOUT, AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THESE CHALLENGES, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID. UM, BUT THE REALLY GREAT NEWS IS WE'RE NOT REALLY HAVING TO DO ANY OF THOSE AND STILL MAKING A PROFIT RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN MY LIFETIME, UH, PRACTICALLY THE NEXT LINE. SO OUR NEXT STEPS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETE THE FISCAL YEAR, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT ENDS IN SEPTEMBER 30TH. AND THEN WE KIND OF SIT DOWN AND TALK THROUGH AT THE PARK'S LEVEL ABOUT, HEY, HOW DID THINGS GO? WHAT, WHAT MAYBE COULD WE HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY OR CHANGED? UM, WE PLAN TO GO THROUGH, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND CONSERVANCY MEETINGS, UM, ON THE RESULTS OF THE FISCAL YEAR, UM, SHARING THE THOUGHTS ABOUT SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT CAME OUT OF THE SURVEY. WE STILL HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A TIME, HAD A CHANCE TO DO THAT TO SOME GROUPS. AND WE PLAN TO DO THAT. I WOULD, I'LL BE, I'LL BE HONEST. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY MORE OF A REALISTIC TIMELINE FOR NOVEMBER. UM, WE'LL GO BACK TO THE GOLF ADVISORY IN NOVEMBER AS WELL, AND BRIEF THEM ON SOME OF THE REVENUE COMES TO THAT, SO THAT WE HAVE LEARNED THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS. UM, WE PLAN TO COME BACK, UH, FOR A FOLLOW-UP, UH, IN DECEMBER WITH THE PARKS BOARD. UM, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE EVEN ENTERTAINING RIGHT NOW, THE MINDSET OF, OF A THIRD-PARTY CONCESSION AGREEMENT, BECAUSE I THINK WE REALLY WANT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT EVERYBODY HAS CONCEPTUALLY. AND, UM, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE WILL NEVER BE BACK THERE NEEDING TO TALK ABOUT A CONCESSION KNOW, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE SUCCESSFUL. AND I THINK OF IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOWN THE PATH WE'RE ON. UM, I STILL THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO MAKE THE GOLF COURSE A LITTLE BIT SAFER. AND I THINK SOME OF THAT WILL COME UP IN THIS, UH, IN PROCESS. UM, AND THEN WE'LL PLAN FOR A MEMORANDUM SUMMARIZING ALL OF THIS, UM, IN DECEMBER OR POTENTIALLY JANUARY NEXT. LIKE, AND WITH THAT, I THINK ANTHONY, NOW WE'RE HERE TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT, FOR THE PRESENTATION, ANTHONY AND KEVIN. AND, UM, I DO, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO, WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE QUESTIONS. I JUST DO WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE'RE JUST REALLY THIS TIME TALKING ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THE SURVEY AND, AND NEXT STEPS RELATED TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT REGARDING THE IMPROVED SEARED USE OF THE GOLF COURSE. AND AS THEY SAID, THEY WILL BE BACK. SO I KNOW THIS IS A BIG TOPIC AND THERE'S LOTS TO DELVE INTO HERE, BUT IF WE COULD JUST TRY TO FOCUS ON THAT ONE PIECE OF IT, UM, THEN WE'D BE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UM, SEE WHO HAS QUESTIONS? I'LL START WITH YOU, UH, VICE CHAIR, DIPLOMA OR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. YEAH, THANK YOU. AND I, I APPRECIATE IT. UM, APPRECIATE STAFF'S REVIEW OF THIS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOVED THE MOST WITHIN THE PRESENTATION IS THE MARCH, 2021 COMMUNITY SURVEY RESULTS. UM, I LOVE THE BREAKOUT ON THE EMAIL SURVEYS, THE OPENLINK RESULTS AND THE QR CODE RESULTS. AND IT WAS AN EASIER ONE TO DO THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE, YES, NO, DON'T HAVE AN OPINION AS THE RESPONSES. AND SO THIS IS WHERE IT ALL BECOMES A LITTLE CHALLENGING. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, ADDITIONAL SEVEN QUESTIONS THAT WERE POSED IN PARTICULAR, WHEN I THINK THE, THE BIGGEST ONE WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GO AS, WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER THE SPACE AT HANCOCK OF COURSE USE FOR THERE'S SOME COMPLAINTS IT I'VE RECEIVED. AND WE PROBABLY ALL RECEIVED RELATING TO THAT ONE EMAIL QUESTION, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME ARE SOME FEEL THAT IT WAS NOT DIRECT ENOUGH AND, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK WHAT SOME MEMBERS I'VE HEARD FROM IS THEY'RE LOOKING AT, THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A QUESTION THAT SAYS, [02:20:01] UH, YOU KNOW, DO YOU SUPPORT KEEPING HANCOCK GOLF GOLF COURSE, IF NOT, YEAH. WHICH OF THESE OPTIONS WOULD YOU PREFER IN QUAL AND HAVING THAT QUANTIFICATION? UM, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE CHALLENGE I ATTEMPTED TO QUANTIFY CUSECS. AND SO I HAD EXPORTED THE PDF INTO AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET AND DID A LITTLE BIT OF DATA CLEANING, BUT NOT ENTIRELY. SO I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SHARE THIS BECAUSE IT'S STILL WORKING ON IT DOCUMENT. BUT WITH THAT, UM, WITHOUT FULLY CLEANING, I'VE CLEANED CLEANED 869 RESPONSES. OKAY. IT WAS RECEIVED. AND SO THERE, YOU HAD 32 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, 16 DISC GOLF, SIX DOG PARK, FOUR REGARDING, UM, FOR SOME REASON, GOLF WAS DONE THREE TIMES HOW IT, HOW IT GOT CAPTURED IN THE PIVOT TABLE. SO IT MUST BE A SPACE IN ONE OF THEM, BUT GOLF 43 GOLF, 519 GOLF, THEN 12 MIXED USE FIVE PARKS, 216 SOCCER FOR SOLAR, ONE TENNIS SEVEN TRADE LAND FOR LIONS ONE. SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT EVERYTHING. THIS IS ONLY A SAMPLE OF THAT DATA. WELL, IT'S NOT EVEN A SAMPLE, IT'S JUST A CLEAN CLEANING PROCESS. SO THE REST, WE HAVE TO REALLY DO AN ASSESSMENT WITH THEM, TRYING TO SAY, AND OVERALL, THE AMOUNT OF RESPONSES THAT WERE RECEIVED IN, IN THAT QUESTION, IT WAS 1,340. SO, UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE CHALLENGE. NOW, EVEN WITH THAT ONE, I'M NOT SURE WHICH THAT WAS TO LIKE, WHICH SURVEY INSTRUMENT ON THAT Q SEX. AND SO THAT MAY BE ME JUST REALLY HAVING TO TAKE A BETTER LOOK AT THE 538 PAGE MEMO, WHICH I'VE GONE THROUGH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES. AND SO I THINK THAT'S ONE THING. UM, THAT'S SOME FEEDBACK THAT I WOULD, I LIKE TO SEE GOING FORWARD. UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN HAVE A BETTER QUANTIFIED RESPONSE. AND SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT IT GOLF, IF NOT, HERE ARE THE OPTIONS AND BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY FROM THERE. UH, THE OTHER ONE IS ON THE PERCENTAGE OF GUESTS RESPONSES KEEP AS GOLF COURSE, CHECK IT TOTALLY APPRECIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE PERCENTAGE BASIS. THAT'S, THAT'S A NICE TO KNOW, BUT IT DOESN'T TELL ME, I GUESS IT DOESN'T TELL ME THE INFORMATION I'M NECESSARILY INTERESTED IN. AND I'D LIKE TO, I THINK THE PERCENTAGE IS HELPFUL. I LIKE THE SPATIAL ANALYSIS TO SHOW THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, I THINK THAT MATTERS A LOT. I MEAN, THAT SPATIAL ANALYSIS, I REALLY APPLAUD, UM, AUSTIN ENERGY FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER AT THE DIRECTION OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN ON THAT PERCENTAGE, AS WELL AS THE ACTUAL NUMERICAL VALUE, IF ALL OF A SUDDEN 7, 8, 7, 3 8 IS HEAVILY RESPONDING, THEN I'M GOING TO BE CURIOUS REGARDING THE DATA SET. UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO THAT'S SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ON THERE. I APPRECIATE IT AGAIN, THE, THE AMOUNT OF OVERALL SURVEY RESPONSES TO THE SURVEY RESPONSES THAT WE'VE RECEIVED. AND I'M JUST NOT SURE HOW THEY'RE EXACTLY QUANTIFIED SURVEY RESULTS, EMAIL 3,629, OPENLINK 4,754, QR CODE 721. AND THEN AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AND I EXPORTED THAT ONE FOR Q SIX, AGAIN, JUST OVER A THOUSAND. SO SOME CLARIFICATION, UM, I THINK OVERALL, I THINK WITH THAT, IT HURT, I LIKED THE HEAT MAP OF THAT ON THAT SPATIAL ANALYSIS THAT THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR HAS SUGGESTED. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I LOVE THE MULTI-USE, UM, SORT OF QUESTIONS AND DEVELOPMENT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT STAKEHOLDER AND GET KEEPING IN THIS WHOLE PREMISE OF STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. UH, ONE OF THE ONES, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT HOW, HOW WE CREATE ADDITIONAL RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. I'M NOT, AND I'M NOT SAYING IN LIEU OF THAT, WELL, MAYBE, MAYBE IN CONJUNCTION OF, UH, YOU KNOW, A GOLF PROGRAM, UM, AND PROFESSIONAL DISC GOLF ASSOCIATION, I DID SPEAK TO FOLKS OVER THERE, JUST SEE, DOES IT INTERFERE WITH BALL GOLF, WHICH IS, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE CALLED, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS CALLED ALL GOLF BY THEM. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY SNOWBALL EVERYBODY DEFERS TO THE BALL GOLF, AND THERE'S JUST OFTEN, THERE'S PLENTY OF GREAT EXAMPLES. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK, WORTH INVESTIGATING, UM, WITHIN, IN THAT CAME UP IN THE SURVEY TOO. AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT CHAIR, BUT OVERALL, A LOT OF INFORMATION I DIGEST. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT STAFF, UH, YOU KNOW, INDIRECTLY CHAMELEON [02:25:01] AND ASSISTANT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DIVISION DIRECTOR AND HE CAN GIVE A MILLION INTO, YOU KNOW, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. SHE GRA APPRECIATE YOU GOING OUT AND PROVIDING THIS TO AUSTIN ENERGY. I THINK THE ADDITIONAL DATA SET, UM, WILL HELP ANY, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE DATA SET WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S AN OVERWHELMING THEME OF GOLF. I WILL SAY THE, ON THE RESPONSE, UM, THIS IS OVER JUST THIS ISN'T A CRITICISM IN THE SURVEY, BUT I DO GET DISENCHANTED WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH TALK, W W WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT HERITAGE AND THE HISTORY AND HOW SPECIAL HYDE PARK IS AND HOW SPECIAL IT WAS WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED, AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE ANECDOTAL THINGS THAT, UM, PEOPLE RESPONDED INTO THE SURVEY INSTRUMENT, GREAT, SUPER, SUPER CUTE COMMUNITY. UM, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE BEST PASS. FRANKLY, I COULDN'T HAVE LIVED THERE WHEN HIGH PARK WAS BUILT. I COULDN'T HAVE LIVED IN THAT AREA WHEN THE GOLF COURSE WAS BUILT. I COULDN'T HAVE PLAYED, PROBABLY PLAYED AT THE GOLF COURSE. EVEN I LOOKED AT THE RULES, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING PROHIBITING IT, BUT I KIND OF HAVE A FEELING I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN NECESSARILY WELCOMED IN THE TURN OF THE CENTURY, UM, PLAYING THERE. SO I WANT PEOPLE TO HOPEFULLY WILL BE MORE SENSITIVE TO THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. AND THAT REALLY RESONATES WITH ME. AND I'VE ONLY BEEN BACK IN TEXAS SINCE 2006. I DIDN'T SPEND DECADES HERE. I DIDN'T GROW UP HERE. UH, LIKE EVEN A FEW OF THE FOLKS ON THIS CALL. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHICH DIRECTION THIS WILL ULTIMATELY GO, BUT I'M HOPING THAT WE FRAME IT THAT WAY. UM, I HOPEFULLY FRAME IT THAT WE WANT AN INCLUSIVE SPACE. I THINK HANCOCK IS INCLUSIVE, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. I THINK WHEN I GO TO GOLF COURSES THROUGHOUT, I KNOW THAT I'M GETTING MORE OUT AND I'LL GET OFF MY SOAP IN A SEC, CAUSE I KNOW I'M DEVIATING, BUT WHEN I GO TO HANCOCK, I SEE MORE DIVERSITY THERE THAN ANY OTHER GOLF COURSE THAT WE HAVE IN AUSTIN. AND PART OF THAT REASON IS BECAUSE THE LOW FARES, I HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. AND SO WE CAN'T ULTIMATELY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS ARGUMENT, I KEEP HEARING, WE CAN'T SUDDENLY REALLY DISMISS THAT HIT IS EXCLUSIVE OVER IN HANCOCK. IT'S A REALLY COMPLEX, AND I KNOW I'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE AND THE COMPLEXITY RELATING TO HANCOCK. SO I'M HOPING TO SURVEY INSTRUMENTS, UM, REALLY SHOWCASE THAT I'M HOPING WHEN PEOPLE RESPOND THAT THEY'RE MAYBE MORE THOUGHTFUL TO IT. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF, IF I'M GOING TO BE VOTING ON SOME, MAKING SOME SORT OF DECISION, APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. DID YOU DO EITHER ONE OF Y'ALL WANT TO ADDRESS ANY OF HIS, UM, COMMENTS, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR CIGNA OR WHAT WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK WITH AUSTIN ENERGY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INPUT THAT HE'S REQUESTING. SO, UH, I'LL JUST NEED TO GET A LIST OF WHAT HE'S ASKING AND WE CAN SEE IF THEY CAN PROVIDE US ADDITIONAL BREAKDOWN ACCORDING TO WHAT HE'S, UH, OR WHAT BOARD MEMBER DEPARTMENT'S ASKING FOR. AND THAT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. UH, WE WORK VERY WELL WITH, WITH OUR, OUR DEPARTMENTS. AND SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN PROVIDING AS MUCH DATA AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. AND I WOULD ONLY ADD, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN ATTEST TO THIS AS WELL. KEVIN GO TO MORRIS WILLIAMS, UH, THE DIVERSITY THERE CONTINUES TO EXPAND. AND SO AS, AS KEVIN ALLUDED TO EARLIER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE ASIAN POPULATIONS GOING. I'VE SEEN MYSELF OVER THERE, A LOT OF HISPANICS PLAYING MORE GOLF, MORE AFRICAN-AMERICANS. AND SO I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT THE DIVERSITY CONTINUES TO, TO GROW AS GOLF IS BECOMING A MORE OF A MAINSTREAM SPORT FOR PEOPLE. UH, UH, AND SO WE SHALL SEE I'M HOPING NEXT YEAR, THE RESULTS ARE EVEN MORE PHENOMENAL THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. YOU'RE DOING GREAT WORK. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THIS IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE. COMPLETELY COMPLICATED. THANK YOU. OKAY. BOARD MEMBER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, THAT'S, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATED HEARING THIS PRESENTATION AND, UM, THAT'S A REALLY, UM, EXCITING WAY TO LEVERAGE, UM, THE CAPACITY AT AUSTIN ENERGY TO REACH A BIGGER, YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE AUDIENCE LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S REALLY COOL. UM, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK IN LOOKING, YOU KNOW, READING THROUGH THE MEMO ABOUT THE SURVEY RESULTS, I DID JUST HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME QUESTIONS THAT, UM, BOARD MEMBERS DEPALMA VOICE. I MEAN, I, I GUESS I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHY, UM, YOU KNOW, ONLY QUESTION FOUR WAS EXPLAINED. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO ALL OF THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE EXTENSIVE, ROBUST STATISTICALLY VALID OUTREACH, UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE CLEAR, UM, CLEAR AND EASILY, YOU KNOW, CLEAR INTERPRETED RESULTS, UM, FROM ALL OF THAT. CAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT YOU WANT TO GET RESULTS THAT YOU CAN INTERPRET AND THEN, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC. UM, [02:30:01] SO I'M DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT. UM, AND I THINK TO THAT, YEAH, I, I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, FRAMING THESE QUESTIONS IS ALSO A BIG DEAL. YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST ASK PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DO YOU LIKE, UM, X PARK OR X SPACE, THE WAY THAT IT IS, UM, MOST PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY GONNA SAY, YEAH, IT'S FINE. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, YOU'RE NOT REALLY, UNLESS YOU'RE REALLY SETTING UP ALTERNATIVES FOR PEOPLE EXPLICITLY. I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO REALLY BE ABLE TO EXPLORE, UM, UH, ROBUSTLY WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE. SO, UM, I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'M NOT REALLY SATISFIED, YOU KNOW, WITH A QUESTION THAT JUST SAYS, DO YOU, UH, DO YOU SUPPORT THIS GOLF COURSE, YOU KNOW, REMAINING THE WAY THAT IT IS, CAUSE THAT DOESN'T REALLY TELL US A WHOLE LOT. UM, I THINK IN A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT CONTEXT, AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT WOULD TELL US A LOT, NO MATTER WHAT THE PUBLIC OPEN SPACE IT WAS. UM, BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE EXTENT OF THE ENGAGEMENT THAT WAS DONE OR THAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO DO. SO I'M JUST INTERESTED TO SEE THAT IN MORE, UM, IN MORE DETAIL. UM, I ALSO JUST WANT TO ADD THAT THE, UM, YOU KNOW, OBSERVING THE WAY THAT A SPACE IS USED ON THE GROUND IS ANOTHER REALLY IMPORTANT SOURCE OF DATA. SO, UM, IF YOU, UM, IF ANYBODY USES THAT APP CALLED STRAVA WHERE YOU CAN, UM, YOU CAN TRACK YOUR RUNS OR WALKS OR BIKE RIDES OR WHATEVER, UM, IT SHOWS YOU REALLY POPULAR ROUTES AND, UM, IN DIFFERENT AREAS YOU CAN LIKE MOUSE OVER THIS MAP TO SEE, UM, UH, TO SEE WHAT, WHAT ROUTES PEOPLE DO WHEN YOU'RE IN A GIVEN AREA. AND THE WALKING ROUTE AROUND THE HANCOCK GOLF FOREST IS THE MOST POPULAR ROUTE ON STRAVA FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, I MEAN, IT'S CLEAR THAT, UM, PEOPLE ARE GOING THERE. UM, THEY'RE USING THE TRAILS AROUND THE GOLF COURSE AS, YOU KNOW, WAIT A WALK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE EVER, UM, I THINK EVERY TIME I'VE BEEN TO HANCOCK, THERE'S LIKE A TON OF PEOPLE OUT THERE USING IT TO, UH, TO EXERCISE OR TO RUN OR WHATEVER AND, AND GOLF. SO I THINK JUST MAKING THOSE ON THE GROUND SITE VISITS AND OBSERVATIONS ALSO, IT GIVES YOU A LOT OF VALUABLE INFORMATION THAT IT DOES GET A LOT OF USE IN ADDITION TO GOLF. UM, SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S VERY EXCITING WHAT YOU DID WITH THE AUSTIN ENERGY DATA AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING MORE OF THAT AND JUST LEARNING MORE, UM, AS WE GO FORWARD IN THE PROCESS. SO THANK YOU CHAIR. IF I MAY, IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST MENTION IT. ONCE AGAIN, WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TRAILS AS, AS BOARD MEMBER KNOWLEDGE HAS MENTIONED, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A, A NEED TO COEXIST AND WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE AND THOSE LISTENING TO THE COST, THIS APPOINT IS NEVER GOING TO BE, LET'S REDUCE, LET'S TAKE AWAY. IT IS HOW DO WE IMPROVE? HOW DO WE CONTINUE WITH SHARED USE SPACE? UH, IF ANYTHING, HOW DO WE MAKE IT BETTER? SWEET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, BOARD MEMBER. UM, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION, BUT DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND OR AM I JUST LIKE, I THOUGHT I SAW A FLASH OR YOU, YEAH, THANK YOU. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT IT IS IT, I THINK THEY EMAIL SURVEY SURVEYS VERY INTERESTING. AND THE WAY YOU SEPARATED THE EMAIL FROM THE OPEN LINK IS VERY HELPFUL, I GUESS. UM, I DID JUST THINK THAT MAYBE THE QUESTION ON QUESTION FOUR, UM, DO YOU SUPPORT CONTINUING HANCOCK GOLF COURSE AS A PUBLIC COURSE OPEN TO ALL? I MEAN, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME FEEDBACK FOR MAYBE IN THE FUTURE THINKING ABOUT THAT WORDING, BECAUSE WHEN I READ THE QUESTION, I'M LIKE, WELL, WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE, WOULD IT BE A PRIVATE COURSE THAT IS DISCRIMINATING. I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. NO, I DON'T SUPPORT THAT, BUT I THINK THE QUESTION WAS GETTING AT, DO YOU SUPPORT THIS CONTINUING AS GOLF OR AS A DIFFERENT YOUTH PUBLIC PARK USE ON THE PROPERTY? I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT IT WAS GETTING AT. SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT AS FAR AS YOUR EMAIL RESPONSE, YOU GOT A LOT OF YES, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER INTERPRETATION OF THAT SECOND PART THAT WOULD BE, UM, INFUSING. IT SEEMS LIKE. AND THEN ON YOUR OPENLINK YOU'VE GOT NO, WHICH MEANS, I THINK THOSE PEOPLE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON MORE. UM, AND SO [02:35:01] I GUESS THE PHRASE I'M THINKING OF IS THE QUESTION SEEMS LIKE A LITTLE BIT INSIDER BASEBALL TO ASK A BUNCH OF RANDOM PEOPLE, AND MAYBE IT COULD HAVE BEEN PHRASED JUST TO SAY, CONTINUE AS A PUBLIC GOLF COURSE. BUT IF THE OPEN TO ALL PART MADE ME THINK, WELL, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? LIKE SOME KIND OF PRIVATIZING WHERE YOU, IT'S NOT EVEN A, A CITY COURSE AND MAYBE THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I DON'T KNOW, JUST TO SAY IT'S A LITTLE, MY QUESTION'S A LITTLE CONFUSING, BUT I DO FIND THE, ALL OF THE THOROUGHNESS OF THE DATA YOU PROVIDED VERY HELPFUL AND INTERESTING AND, UM, APPRECIATE ALL OF THE EFFORTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. WE'LL REMEMBER, HEY ANTHONY, IF I CAN ON THAT, UM, JUST, JUST ONE NOTE THAT DID COME UP IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS AND WE'VE CONTINUED THROUGH THIS PROCESSES, YOU KNOW, TH TH THIS STARTED BACK TO WHERE WE STARTED. IT IS A GOLF COURSE. IT'S A HISTORIC FACILITY THAT HAS GOLF ON IT SINCE 1899. AND SO THAT QUESTION WAS A CHALLENGE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU FOR BOTH AUSTIN ENERGY AND FOR US, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE WERE ASKING IS NOT WHAT KIND OF PIE IN THE SKY IDEAS DO YOU HAVE BECAUSE WE'RE FOCUSED ON GOLF. THIS IS A GOLF DIVISION, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THE GOLF COURSE SOLVENT AND DETERMINE HOW TO, TO, UM, GET FEEDBACK ON HOW WE MIGHT DO THAT WITH ALSO WITH OTHER INPUT ON OTHER USES POTENTIALLY. AND SO IT WAS A DIFFICULT QUESTION. I KNOW AUSTIN ENERGY SUITE, WE KIND OF WENT BACK AND FORTH ON THIS QUESTION. IT IS A PUBLIC FACILITY AND WE WANTED TO CONTINUE. IT REALLY WAS FOCUSED ON, DO YOU SUPPORT CONTINUING GOLF? AND IT IS A PUBLIC GOLF COURSE. AND WE WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW, BECAUSE I GOTTA BE HONEST WITH YOU. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THINK THIS IS A WHITE ELITIST SPORT THAT ONLY IS OPEN TO PEOPLE WITH THAT ARE, THAT HAVE HIGH INCOMES. AND THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE. MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE LEARNING THAT. AND WE'RE FINDING A VERY DIVERSE POPULATION PLAYING AT HANCOCK, ESPECIALLY, BUT WE WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THEY UNDERSTAND IT WAS A PUBLIC OFFICE. IT IS A PUBLIC FACILITY AND IT IS OPEN TO ALL. AND I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. AND WE HAD CONFUSION WITH THAT QUESTION BOTH ON ALL THREE AND ALL THREE VERSIONS, QUITE HONESTLY. SO I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK GOING BACK TO THE FOCUS WAS GOLF BECAUSE IT IS A GOLF COURSE. WEREN'T THINKING ABOUT PUTTING FERRIS WHEELS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GOLF COURSE TO CONTEMPLATE. HEY, WOULD YOU SUPPORT THAT? IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS A CHALLENGE QUESTION FOR SURE. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, BOARD MEMBER BERNARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, YEAH. FIRST OF ALL, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. UM, I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE. UM, AND I'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, THE FACT THAT HANCOCK, UH, GOLF HAS LOW FEES AND NOT, UM, AS FAR AS GOLF COURSES ARE CONCERNED, IT IS ONE OF THE MORE AFFORDABLE PUBLIC COURSES IN AUSTIN. UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT YOUR, UH, FUTURE ENGAGEMENT LOOKS LIKE. LIKE WHAT ARE YOUR NEXT STEPS AND HOW ARE YOU PLANNING ON ENGAGING WITH PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE? UM, BOTH SURVEY WISE AND, UH, OTHER, WELL, THAT ALL DEPENDS UPON THIS PANDEMIC. I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU WITH THE RISE IN DELTA, THAT DOESN'T GIVE ME MUCH CONFIDENCE IN US BEING ABLE TO OPEN BACK UP AND HAVING IN PERSON MEETINGS LIKE WE WE'D LIKE TO DO HONESTLY. SO I CAN TELL YOU THE FIRST WAY, BUT AS WE INDICATED EARLIER, UH, WE'LL BE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE FISCAL YEARS TO LOOK HOW WE DID FINANCIALLY TO START MEETING AGAIN WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, OUR CONSERVANCY GROUPS, UM, OUR, UH, THE GOLF ADVISOR, WELL, AS WELL, AND TO START THAT PROCESS WITH MEETING WITH THEM, SHARING ALL THE RESULTS, THEN COMING BACK AND SAYING, OKAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO WORK FORWARD? OR HOW CAN WE COEXIST AND GETTING THAT KIND OF INFORMATION. SO WHEN I SAY THAT THIS IS A CONTINUATION, IT'S ABSOLUTELY CONTINUATION. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE ONE AND DONE AND OKAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. SO IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE PARKS RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND WE GET PEOPLE'S INPUT THAT WE GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND WE TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION. AND SO, HENCE FOR, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE ENGAGEMENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. BOARD MEMBER, UH, THE CARLA, THANK YOU. I THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT'S NICE TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THE PROCESS. AND, UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY GREAT HEARING. THAT'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT AND ENJOYING THE SPORT. UM, I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ANSWER SOME OF MY OTHER, SOME OF MY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS. UM, BUT THEN I JUST WANT TO ASK, IS IT, IS IT CORRECT THAT THE SURVEY WAS NOT AVAILABLE IN SPANISH? CORRECT. IT WAS DONE ONLY IN ENGLISH. OKAY. UM, ARE Y'ALL THINKING ABOUT HAVING THAT IN SPANISH MOVING FORWARD OR FOR MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, IF Y'ALL DID SURVEYS OR THINGS LIKE THAT? THAT'S SOMETHING [02:40:01] WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. UH, HAVEN'T HAD EVER RECEIVED MUCH INFORMATION FEEDBACK REQUESTING THAT THEN I WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY SEEN WHAT KIND OF MECHANISM WE COULD PROVIDE FOR THEM. UH, BUT I DEFINITELY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE AND WE'LL TAKE IT TO CONSIDERATION. SHOULD WE DO ANOTHER SURVEY IN THE NEAR FUTURE? OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. OKAY. A BOARD MEMBER. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THAT. IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, SO I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY. BOARD MEMBER. UM, CUTTING SEIBEL. THANK YOU. OKAY. A COUPLE OF PEOPLE TOUCHED ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD, BUT I HAD ONE THOUGHT AND THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK, AS A PARKS BOARD, WE ALL, WE NEED TO CONSIDER ALL THE TIME. AND I'M HEARING FROM THE PEOPLE THAT CALLED IN FROM THE JUSTICE COALITION. THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE HEARD. AND MY QUESTION, I GUESS THEN IS HOW CAN WE GET THE DATA BACK TO THEM TO SEE WHAT WE'VE GOT? LIKE, I GUESS MAYBE, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY THAT AS WE ASK THESE QUESTIONS AND AS WE DO THESE SURVEYS, HOW CAN WE LET THE PUBLIC, IS THERE A WAY TO LET THE PUBLIC SEE SOME OF THIS DATA IN REAL TIME? SO THEY KNOW WHAT IS BEING RESPONDED TO AND WHERE THE SURVEYS ARE AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE, A BOARD MEMBER AND ATTACHED TO YOUR QUESTION. WE SENT THIS INFORMATION, THE, UH, ENTIRE MEMO WITH ALL 550 PAGES TO THE GROUP THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. UH, PRIOR TO US MEETING WITH THEM, WE MET WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY. UH, AND SO I PROVIDED THEM ALL THE DATA PRIOR TO THAT MEETING. SO EVERYBODY THAT WE'VE MET WITH CONSERVANCIES, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND SO FORTH, HAVE ALL BEEN PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION PRIOR TO US MEETING. IT'S IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE REMAIN TRANSPARENT. AND SO THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO. OKAY, GOOD. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, UM, I, I'M JUST FOLLOWING UP ON SOMETHING YOU WERE ANSWERING ABOUT THE P THE PANDEMIC, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I NOTICED THAT ALL OF THIS IS DIGITAL, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE ALL THE ACCESS THAT THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND Q CODES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I'M JUST WONDERING, UM, IF, IF THERE ARE OTHER CREATIVE WAYS THAT WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT GOING FORWARD, THAT WOULD BE NOT JUST DIGITAL SURVEY COLLECTION. I CAN TELL YOU THE PEN DID SPEND QUITE A BIT OF, WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME, UM, AT THE GOLF COURSES, WHICH, WHICH YES, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING GOLFERS TO TAKE SURVEYS ABOUT SUPPORTING COUGH. SO THAT IS SOMEWHAT SKEWED, BUT, BUT WE DID THAT WITH STAFF FACE-TO-FACE. SO IF WE HAD THAT QR CODE AVAILABLE, BUT IF THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO DO THAT, WE WOULD GIVE THEM A PAPER SURVEY AND, OR ASK THEM IF WE CAN HELP THEM THROUGH THE SURVEY. UM, AND I DON'T SEE TO YOUR POINT, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO ADDITIONAL OUTREACH AT OTHER PARK LOCATIONS? PERHAPS WE JUST STAFFING IS, UH, IS A REAL CHALLENGE WITH JUST, UM, FIELDING STAFF TO OPERATE INSIGHT. BUT, UM, SOMETHING MAYBE SEPARATE, I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD ASK THE SAME THING AS WELL. A BOARD MEMBER JUST DEPENDS UPON HOW THE, THIS DELTA CONTINUES. I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GET IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S FACES AND TALK TO THEM. YOU CAN HEAR THE RAW EMOTION WHEN YOU'RE IN FRONT OF A GROUP. AND I CAN TELL YOU WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2020, IT WAS, IT WAS GREAT TO HEAR ALL POINTS OF VIEWS FROM PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THE GOLF COURSE AND THOSE THAT WANTED TO CONTINUE A GOLF COURSE. AND SO WE ABSOLUTELY RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF MEETING A PERSON IT'S JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND PEOPLE'S SAFETY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO RESPECT. OF COURSE. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I ACTUALLY, MY QUESTIONS WERE PRIMARILY ADDRESSED. I DO. UM, I KNOW THAT IT'S, IT'S CHALLENGING DOING THIS KIND OF ENGAGEMENT DURING A PANDEMIC IS YOU'VE REFERENCED. AND I JUST WAS CURIOUS, WHICH, I MEAN, WHAT DID YOU THINK WAS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PART OF YOUR ENGAGEMENT? JUST AS A LEARNING PROCESS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO ENGAGE THROUGH A PANDEMIC, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF TRACK THOSE KINDS OF SUCCESSES TO, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO USE THOSE KINDS OF METHODOLOGIES, THAT THE ONES THAT WORK ON THE ONES THAT DON'T WORK. AND CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? WELL, YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH BE KNOWN IS PRIOR TO US MEETING WITH THE CONSERVANCIES AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, WE ATTEMPTED TO DO SOMETHING TO THAT EXTENT IS BECAUSE THEIR PANDEMIC WAS, WAS FULL-BLOWN. AND OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING WHERE WE COULD DO ONLINE CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT. I THINK WE HAD 180, 190 PEOPLE, AND IT WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WEREN'T PREPARED TO TRY TO FILL IT. HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MANEUVER [02:45:01] AND TRY TO HEAR AS MANY OPINIONS, UH, WITHIN A TWO HOUR TIMEFRAME AND HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE PEOPLE TALK OVER OTHER PEOPLE AND RESPECT EACH OTHER? AND WHEN YOU GET TO A TOPIC THAT'S HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. AND SO WE FIGURED OUR FIRST MECHANISM OF MOVING FORWARD WAS LET'S WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, WHICH REPRESENT THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND THOSE GROUPS AND PROVIDE THEM FEEDBACK AND THEY HAVE THEIR MEETINGS THEMSELVES. AND SO LET'S START WITH THOSE GROUPS AND THAT'S HOW WE MOVED FORWARD WITH MOVING WITH HIS NEGATIVE ASSOCIATIONS, THE CONSERVANCIES THAT WERE CREATED AS WELL AS THE HANCOCK FOR ALL THAT JUST WAS CREATED RECENTLY. AND THAT'S OUR INTENT IS, IS HOW DO WE GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN. LET'S TALK WITH THOSE REPRESENTATIVES. IF AT THAT POINT WE START TO SEE, OH, IT'S JUST NOT ENOUGH. WE NEED MORE, ABSOLUTELY MOVE TOWARDS THAT. WHO KNOWS TOWARDS THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, OR EVEN AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR, IF THE DELTA VARIANT CONTINUES TO WANE OFF AND WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES AND THERE'S SAFER AND BETTER MEANS TO MEET IN PERSON, WE'RE ALL FOUR. RIGHT. RIGHT. AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I THINK ONE OF OUR, THE PEOPLE AT CITIZEN COMMUNICATION MENTIONED THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE MORE FOCUS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN TOUCH MINORITIES AND COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY FEEL, MAY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE LEFT OUT OF THE PROCESS. AND I KNOW THAT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME, AS I SAID, DURING THE PANDEMIC, THAT MAY BE A CHALLENGE, BUT IF THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, OTHER STRATEGIES THAT WE CAN KIND OF THINK ABOUT OR DEVELOP, SO WE CAN MAYBE GO OUT MORE INTO SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT FEEL LIKE THEY'RE LEFT OUT. I KNOW THAT YOUR FOCUS HAS BEEN REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SURROUNDING THE PARK. AND THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. CAUSE THERE'S THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST TOUCHED BY IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT SURE PEOPLE COME FROM. I KNOW WE SAW SOME GOLFERS FROM WAY UP IN THE NORTHWEST AND MAYBE SOUTHWEST TOO. WE ALSO OBVIOUSLY COME OUT THERE. I, YOU KNOW, BEEN OUT THERE. I WENT OUT THERE WITH ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS AND THAT'S SUNDAY MORNING AND SAW A LONG LINE OF, OF GOLFERS WHO WERE OBVIOUSLY, UH, FROM, UM, MIXED ETHNICITIES. SO I, I CAN SEE FOR MYSELF IN IT, IT, IT DOES. UM, THEY'RE ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT COME OUT THERE, BUT I KNOW TRYING TO, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT JUST GIVEN WHAT'S HAPPENING, THAT WE TRY TO MAKE AS MUCH EFFORT AS POSSIBLE TO REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT IN, YOU KNOW, THE ZONES THAT WE PRIORITIZE THE MOST, BUT JUST TO, TO MAKE SOME EXTRA EFFORT, TO TRY TO, UM, REACH OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. AND I KNOW THAT'S CHALLENGING, BUT I, AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH, BUT I, I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT IT IS A PRIORITY TO REALLY THINK ABOUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. SO, AND I, I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL WHAT YOU GUYS DO. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK AND I, UM, BUT I, UM, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIGURE THIS OUT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT IT WHEN Y'ALL COME BACK, I GUESS IN DECEMBER. CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR TIME AT THIS POINT. OKAY. TERRIFIC. WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR PRESENTATION. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. OKAY. MOVING ON. HEY, I, UM, I WAS ASKED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTES BREAK BEFORE OUR NEXT ITEM, IF POSSIBLE. ABSOLUTELY. ACTUALLY THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. I SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT. MYSELF. NINA, I MEAN, BOARD MEMBER RANALLI. THANK YOU. YES, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S PERFECT. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE, UM, THE NEXT, [B.5. Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding a recommendation to the Parks and Recreation Department Director to approve the Central Williamson Creek Greenway Vision Plan] THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS, UM, UH, PRESENTATION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR TO APPROVE THE CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK GREENWAY VISIT AND PLAN AS, UM, AS MOST TO RECALL, WE ADDRESS THIS IN JUNE AND WE DECIDED TO, TO TABLE IT AT THAT TIME. SO IT HAS COME BACK. SO WE, UM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING BACK AND I KNOW THAT WE DID GET SOME MATERIALS AND THERE WERE SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS THAT WERE ANSWERED. AND SO I WILL JUST OPEN IT UP AND SEE IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE, UM, THE FULL PRESENTATION AGAIN, OR PART OF THE PRESENTATION. I KNOW THAT BOARD MEMBER COGMAN HAS NOT SEEN THAT, BUT IF ANYBODY JUST, IF SOMEBODY COULD, UM, LET ME KNOW. IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK WE HAVE, UM, NICOLE JOSLIN WITH THE COMMUNITY POWERED WORKSHOPPING, GREG MONTAS PROGRAM MANAGER, CLAIRE [02:50:01] ELEMENT, HEATH LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, UM, AND JUST CAUSE SAGERS CENTRAL WILLIAMSON CREEK COMMUNITY WORKING GROUPS. SO HOPEFULLY WE HAVE QUITE A TEAM HERE. SO, UH, ANYWAYS, DOES ANYBODY, IS ANYBODY INTERESTED IN SEEING THE, THE FULL, UM, PRESENTATION AGAIN? I DON'T SEE ANYBODY JUMPING TO DO THAT, SO LET'S JUST GO AROUND AND SEE IF I KNOW THAT NOT EVERYBODY GOT TO ASK QUESTIONS AT THE LAST MEETING. SO THIS IS YOUR, UM, YOUR TIME TO DO THAT. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND, UM, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR, FOR BEING HERE. AND I'LL START WITH, UM, WITH YOU BOARD MEMBER, UM, THE, CARLA, DO YOU WANT TO START US OFF? UM, SURE. THANK YOU. UM, THANKS EVERYONE FOR COMING BACK TO THIS. UM, I, I KNOW IT WAS A, IT'S A HOT ISSUE, UM, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO THIS AREA TO WILLIAMSON CREEK. AND, UM, I THINK EVERYONE HAS SEEN JUST HOW IMPORTANT IT REALLY IS TO THE COMMUNITY AND HOW MUCH EVERY, EVERYONE REALLY CARES ABOUT IT. UM, I REALLY DON'T, I, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE TEAM AND, AND PARK STAFF. UM, AND YEAH, I GUESS I, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I, I DO HOPE THAT THIS VISION PLAN MOVES FORWARD. UM, IT DOES SEEM LIKE A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN PUT INTO IT AND, UM, IT, IT DOES. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME, SOME, UH, RESIDENTS WHO ARE OPPOSED TO CERTAIN PARTS OF THE VISION PLAN, UM, AND MAYBE HOW, HOW THINGS CAME ABOUT. UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS IN THIS AREA ARE HOPING THAT IT WILL MOVE FORWARD AND, AND, YOU KNOW, INCREASE THE, UM, AMOUNT OF USE THAT THE TRAILS GET AND THAT THE CREEK GETS, UM, AND IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENT THERE AS WELL. SO, UM, I'LL, I'LL LET EVERYONE ELSE, UM, ASK THEIR QUESTION, SO THANK YOU. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, BOARD MEMBER, UM, RINALDI, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANKS. UM, NO, I DON'T. I, UM, I DID GET TO ASK QUESTIONS DURING THE LAST TIME THIS WAS PRESENTED AND, UM, I'M STILL VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE IT FORWARD TONIGHT. GREAT. THANK YOU. BOARD MEMBER FILES. DO YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I JUST HAD ONE COMMENT FIRST. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE CITIZENS THAT WROTE IN AND, UM, AND SPOKE TONIGHT AND GAVE THEIR FEEDBACK AND, UM, AM HOPEFUL THAT THIS, I THINK IT IS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE COMMUNITIES. MY ONLY COMMENT WAS, UM, JUST TO THE, THE STUFF AND IMPLEMENTING THE VISION PLAN PROJECTS. I KNOW THAT THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION IN THE PLAN FOR SOME BONDED MULCH TRAILS. AND I ALSO KNOW IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FIND SOME TRAIL SURFACES THAT MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE, UM, TO A VARIETY OF USERS, ESPECIALLY, UM, PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL PHYSICAL NEEDS. I HADN'T REALLY, UM, EXPERIENCED A LOT OF BONDED MULCH UNTIL RECENTLY. I'VE BEEN TO A FEW PLACES, UM, NEW PLAYGROUNDS THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAS DONE WHERE THE BONDED MULCH HAS BEEN PUT DOWN. AND I FOUND IT WAS TEARING UP REAL EASILY, LIKE JUST A SINGLE CHEW, RUBBING ACROSS IT. AND I KNOW THAT THESE TRAILS IN PARTICULAR ARE IN AN AREA WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF FLOODING AND OVER RUNNING OF THE BANKS. AND SO I WAS JUST HOPING THAT WE COULD HAVE WATERSHED PROTECTION LOOK AT, UM, THE APPROPRIATENESS OF BONDED MULCH IN A TRAIL RIGHT NEXT TO A CREEK LIKE THIS, WHERE WE, WE ARE GOING TO SEE ANY, ANY OF THAT MULCH THAT COMES APART IS GOING TO JUST WASH RIGHT INTO THE CREEK FIRST RAIN. AND AS WE KNOW, THIS GOES DOWN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT GOES INTO ONION CREEK AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, UM, MAYBE I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS GOING TO WORK SOMEWHERE SO CLOSE TO A CREEK FOR A TRAIL. CAUSE IT WAS JUST DISINTEGRATING SO FAST, EVEN THOUGH IT HAD JUST BEEN PUT DOWN WHERE I SAW IT. SO THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT IF Y'ALL CAN JUST VISIT WITH WATERSHED PROTECTION ABOUT THAT. [02:55:04] GREAT. UM, DID Y'ALL WANT TO COMMENT ANYBODY WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT OR SO, UM, I WOULD SAY THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK AND YES, AS WE GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND YOU'RE TERMINATING THE APPROPRIATE ON MATERIALS, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY CONFER WITH THE TOUCHING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER MATERIAL IS CHOSEN, UH, UPON IS APPLIED APPROPRIATELY, UM, PROVIDES FOR ADA ACCESS, BUT DOES NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY FUND THIS SPACE. SO THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK. WE'LL DO THAT. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, BOARD MEMBER BERNARD, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO QUESTIONS, BUT I DID WANT TO SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATED THE DOCUMENT THAT, UM, Y'ALL SENT WITH ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS BROKEN DOWN AND ANSWERED, AND THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. BOARD MEMBER. CUTTING. CYBIL. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY I HAVING A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS REALLY CLOSELY. I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES. I THINK IT'S GOING TO GIVE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME OF THE HEAVY USAGE OFF THE TRAIL DOWNTOWN, AND WE'LL BE CLOSER TRAILS FOR PEOPLE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY GOOD. UM, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT PUT INTO IT FROM WHAT I CAN TELL. UM, I, THIS IS THE ONLY SILLY LITTLE QUESTION I HAVE AND IT REALLY IS A SEMANTIC QUESTION CAME UP BEFORE AND IT WASN'T REALLY ANSWERED, I DON'T THINK, BUT AFTER HAVING, UM, WATCHED THE, AND GONE TO VISIT THE, THE GREENWAY DOWNTOWN AND USING GREENWAY HERE, I KNOW THIS SOUNDS LIKE SEMANTICS, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT COULD BE SOME OF THE HESITANCY THAT I HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE WORRIED THAT THIS IS GOING TO BECOME A GENTRIFICATION THAT'S GONNA TO CAUSE THEM TO HAVE PROBLEMS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I JUST WONDERED IF THERE WAS THOUGHT GIVEN TO GREEN WAY VERSUS GREEN BELT OR, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT CAME UP BEFORE. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO ASKED IT, IT MIGHT'VE BEEN, UM, BOARD MEMBER FAST, BUT I JUST, IT WAS SORT OF REINFORCED BECAUSE SOMEONE JUST THE OTHER DAY SAID TO ME, SOMETHING ABOUT WATERLOO, GREENWAY BEING AN, UH, GENTRIFICATION AND I, AND I THOUGHT, I WONDER IF THAT'S SOME OF THE CONCERN THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS PROJECT. SO JUST, I GUESS I WOULD ASK ABOUT THAT SEMANTIC QUESTION. YEAH. BOARD MEMBER. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THIS IS GREGORY MONTH IS WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION PLANNING DIVISION. UM, THAT, THAT COMMENT DID COME UP, UM, IN OUR CONVERSATION BACK IN MAY WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS ITEM. UM, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS SEMANTICS IN, IN THE TERM IS USED, IS LOOSELY USED WITHIN THE PLANNING FIELD. UM, FOR INSTANCE, OUR 2010, UH, LONG RANGE PLAN FOR OUR DEPARTMENT, YOU USE THE TERM GREENWAY AND WAS USED, UH, VERY OFTEN IN THAT DOCUMENT. UM, AND WE WERE USING THAT AS OUR DOCUMENT FOR MANY YEARS UNTIL THE NEW LANGUAGE PLAN, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN 2019 BY RECOMMENDED BY THIS BOARD AND COUNCIL, UH, CHANGED THE TERM TO GREENBELT. UM, I THINK THAT IN SOME CASES, GREENBELT CAN, CAN, FOR SOME PEOPLE, UH, DESCRIBE A NATURAL AREA THAT, UM, OBVIOUSLY HAS A BODY OF WATER RUNNING THROUGH IT. UM, AND THERE ARE USUALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, NATURE TRAILS AND, UM, OTHER LIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, PASSIVE RECREATIONAL AMENITIES THAT ARE PROVIDED IN THOSE ENVIRONMENTS. WHEN PEOPLE THINK OF GREENWAY, THE FIRST THING THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT NOW, BECAUSE IT'S GOTTEN A LOT OF COVERAGE AS IT SHOULD, IS THE WALNUT CREEK GREENWAY. UM, THE, THE, UM, I THINK THAT SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND CONFUSION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP LAST TIME WAS THAT, UM, SOME OF THOSE, UM, NEIGHBORS WERE USING IT TO TRY TO IMPLY THAT THIS, UH, PARTICULAR PLAN WAS GOING TO LOOK AND FEEL AND IS VERY SIMILAR TO WALNUT CREEK PLAN THAT YOU OBVIOUSLY WENT AND VISITED. UM, THAT'S THE FURTHEST FROM THE TRUTH. I MEAN, WE, WE ARE NOT PROPOSING THAT. UM, I'M SURE YOU'VE SPENT TIME LOOKING OVER THE PLAN AND THOSE, UM, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED BY THE COMMUNITY ARE APPROPRIATE, UM, FOR THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY'RE ALL VERY PASSIVE. SO, UM, I THINK THE TERM GREENWAY ALSO KIND OF REALLY, UM, DEMONSTRATES THAT MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS PART IN WATERSHED ALSO HAS JOINT, UM, OWNERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT AND STEWARDSHIP OF MANY OF THE PROPERTIES THAT MAY PICK UP THIS CORRIDOR. SO I THINK THAT THE TERM GREENWAY WAS ALSO USED IN THAT WAY. UM, BUT I THINK AGAIN, IT'S JUST A, MANTIC, IT'S NOT TO MEAN THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE WILLIAMSON CREEK LOOK LIKE WALLER CREEK, AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CONFUSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU BET. OTHERWISE, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY INTERESTING STUFF HERE AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON IT. [03:00:01] THANK YOU. OKAY. A BOARD MEMBER, HYPING, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU. I DID READ THROUGH ALL THE LETTERS AND THE, UM, MATERIAL FROM LAST MONTH AND JUST FOUND IT ALL. WONDERFUL. I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PLAN AND LOVED ALL THE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY. SO I'M JUST LEARNING. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS STAGE. THANKS. OOPS. AND, UH, VICE CHAIR, UH, DIPLOMA. NO, UH, I, I CAN'T WAIT FOR IT. I MEAN, THE WILLIAMSON CREEK IS JUST SUCH AN IMPORTANT AREA. WE LOOK AT THE LACK OF ACCESSIBLE, YOU KNOW, OPEN SPACE AND USABLE SPACE FOR, FOR BOTH ACTIVE AND PASSIVE RECREATION IN THAT AREA. I THINK IT PROVIDES THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO IT CROSSING, UH, MANSHACK AT SOME POINT IN TIME AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THAT FIRST SEGMENT AND MAKE ITS WAY ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE OAK HILL. WHY? SO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, WELL WE, UM, CERTAINLY DO NOT HAVE, UM, MANY QUESTIONS. I KNOW EVERYBODY'S REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK THAT EVERYBODY'S DONE. AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU JUST FOR, UM, JUST, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, JUST BECAUSE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS SUCH A, ONE OF THE PARAMOUNT ISSUES THAT WE REALLY TOUCHED ON THAT ARE THE LAST TIME WE WENT OVER THIS, UM, VISION PLAN. AND SO JUST FOR, UM, JUST SO EVERYBODY CAN KIND OF HEAR WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, IF YOU COULD JUST KIND OF GO OVER REAL, JUST GIVE ME A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF WHAT I KNOW YOU DID IT AND WRITING AND THOSE QUESTIONS. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, BUT IF YOU COULD JUST LIKE, IF SOMEBODY COULD JUST KIND OF GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE OF WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN OUR LAST MEETING AND THIS MEETING ABOUT THE EFFORTS THAT YOU PUT IN TO INCREASE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT WOULD, UM, I'D REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I CAN PROVIDE SOME, YOU CAN GO AHEAD, GREG. OKAY. NO, NO, NO WORRIES. I DON'T WANT TO STEP ON ANYONE'S TOES HERE. UH, GO AHEAD, NICOLE. I MEAN, I KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20 GAUGE MINT. WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT THAT'S BEEN DONE JUST THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS. UM, WE'VE I JUST HEARD THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT HANCOCK, AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT ENGAGEMENT A LOT IN ALL OF THE PLANS AND ITEMS THAT YOU REVIEW. UM, BUT WE DID MAKE, UH, A REALLY CONCERTED EFFORT TO PROVIDE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ENGAGE WITH PROVIDED ONLINE TOOLS, UM, UH, HOSTED IN-PERSON EVENTS WHENEVER WE FELT LIKE WE COULD DO IT SAFELY. UM, WE PROVIDED A TAKE-HOME ACTIVITIES, UM, TO PEOPLE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SORT OF DO, UM, UH, AT THEIR LEISURE AND THEN REPORT BACK TO US THEIR FEEDBACK. UM, WE ALSO DISTRIBUTED, UM, DOOR HANGERS AND YARD SIGNS, AND WE DID, WE, YOU GUYS ALL SAW THAT, THAT TALLY OF THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SORT OF QUANTIFY IN, IN, WITHIN THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY OF, OF WHO ALL WE WERE ABLE TO AT LEAST TOUCH IN SOME WAY WITH THIS PROCESS, UM, THAT SINCE THE LAST PARKS BOARD MEETING, WE'VE CONTINUED TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS OR COMMUNITY GROUPS AS THEY'VE REQUESTED. UM, WE HAVE NOT CONDUCTED ANY OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS. UM, WE HAVE NOT CHANGED THE VISION DOCUMENT. UM, SINCE THAT LAST MEETING WE, UH, HAVE, HAVE JUST SORT OF CONTINUED TO, UH, COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE, UM, WHENEVER WE HEAR FROM THEM, UM, AND ADDRESS THEIR, THEIR COMMENTS WHENEVER WE ARE ABLE TO, TO CHAT WITH THEM. SO, UM, THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING TODAY HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU CONSIDERED IT. AND MAY AND GREG, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO THAT. YEAH, NO, I, I THINK THAT, UM, WE CERTAINLY, THE TEAM CERTAINLY TRIED AND, AND ESPECIALLY, UM, NICOLE AND WATERSHED TRY TO RESPOND TO ANY INQUIRIES THAT, UH, ANY OF THE NEIGHBORING, UM, ASSOCIATION GROUPS THAT, THAT, UM, UH, WANTED SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED. UM, I KNOW THAT WATERSHED STAFF MET WITH THEM VIRTUALLY TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE ADDRESSED AND, UM, AND THEN THEY WERE SATISFIED AND, AND COMMUNICATED THAT TO STAFF. SO, UM, WE, WE MADE SURE THAT NO ONE WAS LEFT. UM, YOU KNOW, UM, [03:05:01] I GUESS LEFT WITH ANY TYPE OF UNRESOLVED CONCERNS OR ISSUES THAT HAD COME FORWARD AND APPROACH THIS PLANNING TEAM. SO, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT AS NICOLE MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS NOT ANY STRONG DESIRE OR OUR ASK FROM THIS PLANNING TEAM TO MODIFY THE PLAN. UM, I MEAN, I THINK THAT A LOT OF, AND WE STARTED TO GET SOME, SOME COMMUNICATION FROM FOLKS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT. SO IT WAS NICE TO SEE THAT THAT SUPPORT, UM, YOU KNOW, SPEAK AT THE FRONT END OF THE MEETING BECAUSE THEY, THEY REALIZED THAT THEY NEEDED TO BE HERE. SO THEY TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO REACH OUT TO SOME NOTIFIES THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE HEARING FROM THEM TONIGHT. SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS GOOD. RIGHT. OKAY. SO, BUT I, I JUST DO WANT TO CLARIFY, SO YOU DID DO SOME MORE OUTREACH AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, BUT THERE, WHATEVER THE OUTREACH YOU DID AND THE, WHATEVER YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, THERE WAS NOTHING IN THERE THAT, UM, COMPELLED YOU TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS IN THE PLAN, IS THAT CORRECT? AND THAT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE PRETTY CONTENT OR THERE WAS, OR WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO. WASN'T REALLY REALISTIC OR NO, I MEAN, I, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING A WEEK. I DON'T THINK THAT WE RECEIVED ANYTHING THAT, UM, THAT WAS, UM, FROM THE, THE COMMUNITY THAT WE INTERACTED WITH DURING THIS PLANNING PROCESS, BUT, UM, WARRANTED US HAVING TO MODIFY THE, THE PLAN, UM, FROM WHAT IT IS TODAY. I MEAN, AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THE, UH, PROPOSED, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AMENITIES, THEY'RE VERY, VERY APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT. UM, TH THEY'RE VERY, VERY PASSIVE THEY'RE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT AND THEY, AND THOSE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD FROM THE COMMUNITY. UM, THEY WERE NOT DEVELOPED BY US AS A PLANNING TEAM. THEY CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY. UM, SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE COMFORTABLE COMING TO THIS BOARD TO HAVE YOU AGAIN, REVIEW IT AND THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO THE DIRECTOR. OKAY. NO, AND I THINK I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS SPENT THE TIME TO REALLY ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE QUESTION WITH PEOPLE, THE ONES THAT WERE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS, YOU DID THAT, AND WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. I HOPE YOU DO, YOU KNOW, AS A BOARD MEMBER, WE HEAR FROM COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME. AND SO WHATEVER, WHEN WE ASK QUESTIONS, ARE WE, I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE REALLY IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES WHO, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE WITH COMMUNITY ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS. AND SO WE, UM, HAVE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE VALUE OF BEING ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HEARD, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'S, IT CAUSES PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD AND PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY WEREN'T LISTENED TO AND, AND THINGS, AND THEIR OPINIONS WEREN'T RESPECTED OR WHATEVER. SO I KNOW THAT IT'S IT'S, UH, AND I, AND I KNOW IT'S A DIFFICULT PROCESS TOO, AND I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE, I MEAN, I CAN LOOK IN THE DOCUMENTED ALL THE EFFORT THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO, BUT, AND I KNOW IT'S, YOU CAN NEVER MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY THAT, UM, WE ALL CAN'T DO THAT WITHIN OUR LITTLE HOMES AND FAMILIES, SO IT'S, BUT I, UM, I TOTALLY GET THAT, BUT I JUST WENT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT JUST, JUST REINFORCE THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT AND, AND, AND, AND JUST, UM, APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT THAT YOU PUT INTO IT. SO SURE. AND I WILL ADD TO YOUR COMMENT THAT, UH, EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS AND THEY DID, AND YOU'RE RIGHT. NOT EVERYONE AGREES. UM, AND THAT'S THE PLANNING PROCESS THAT NOT IF THAT'S THAT'S WITH MANY OF OUR PLANNING PROCESSES, SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS AND YOU CAN'T MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY, BUT YOU CAN GIVE EVERYONE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THE TABLE AND TO PROVIDE THAT INPUT AND THAT DIVERSE, UH, INPUT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO. AND, AND WHEN YOU HAVE DIVERSE INPUT, UM, YOU HAVE A PLAN THAT, THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT AND SAY, WE'VE HEARD FROM EVERYONE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT AND THEY ARE. SO I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY. AND I THINK THAT, UH, NICOLE AND LAST, I GUESS, MAZE, UM, PARKS BOARD MEETING, UH, SHOWED THOSE TYPES OF DATA POINTS WHERE PEOPLE WERE INVOLVED SURE. AND I I'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND I KNOW THAT, UM, UM, I'M REALLY HAPPY SOMETHING'S GONNA HAPPEN BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA, BUT IT, IT DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, A NICE SOLID TRAIL. AND JUST, HOW DO I SAY THIS? JUST, IT NEEDS SOME IMPROVEMENT. I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS OWED THAT AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT WE REALLY, THE PARKS DOES GO OUT AND MAKE SURE THEY TOUCH ALL THE PLACES WITHIN AUSTIN THAT, THAT, THAT DESERVE TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, DESERVE TO HAVE NICE WORKSPACES AND WILD SPACES. SO I'M, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE FINALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT. AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LITTLE CONTROVERSIAL, BUT WE, UM, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT, UM, THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE ON IT. OKAY. SO I WILL, UM, AT THIS POINT, DOES ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION [03:10:01] TO, UM, FOR THE, UH, DIRECTOR TO, UM, OWN THIS, UH, CENTRAL WILLIAM CREEK GREENWAY VISION PLAN? UM, THIS IS ANNA. I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE, TO, TO RECOMMEND. YES. AND DO I HAVE SECOND AND I HAVE A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER HUDMAN SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND EVERYBODY IN FAVOR, IF YOU COULD PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE HAVE NOBODY, MAY I GET A VERBAL FROM ANNA, PLEASE? I'M IN FAVOR THE FEELING SHE WAS, SO, OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK TO SEE US ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE ARE, UM, WE ACTUALLY MIGHT BE ABLE TO COVER OUR AGENDA, SO POSSIBLY SO, AND I ASSUME, UM, RIGHT, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO STICK, STICK AROUND FOR THE UPDATE ON THE ZILKER METROPOLITAN PART VISITING IN PROCESS. I AM, YOU'RE NOT GETTING RID OF ME YET. [C.1. Update on the Zilker Metropolitan Park Vision Planning Process.] I CAN INTRODUCE THIS ITEM. OKAY. SO THAT IS THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. LET'S TRY IT. IF YOU'RE READY. WE'RE READY. PERFECT. YEAH. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE A, UM, THAT BRIEFING ON THE ZILKER METROPOLITAN, UH, VISION PLAN PROCESS THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN AWARE OF AND PARTICIPANT IN. UM, WE HAVE OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT HERE WITH THIS DESIGN WORKSHOP, UH, CLAIRE HEMPHILL, WHO IS A PRINCIPAL AT THE FIRM, AND, UH, SHE WILL BE COVERING THE PRESENTATION, UM, BASICALLY KIND OF JUST UPDATING THIS, UH, BOARD ON KIND OF THE WORK THAT THIS TEAM HAS DONE THUS FAR WITH THE PLAN. UM, AND THE PROCESS, UH, UH, COVERED TO, UH, ADD LARGE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE'VE HAD A SERIES OF POPUPS, SMALL GROUPS, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CLAIRE WILL BE COVERING A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION. OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD, UM, NUMBER OF SURVEYS TO ONE WHICH IS OPEN, UH, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW. UM, AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN, UM, PARTICIPANTS IN OUR, OUR LARGE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. SO I APPRECIATE THAT INVOLVEMENT [D.1. Update from Zilker Park Vision Plan Working Group.] AND YOU ALL ARE ALSO MEMBERS OF THE, UH, WORKING GROUP. SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND HAND IT OVER TO CLAIRE BECAUSE SHE DOES HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION SHE'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU. GOOD EVENING BOARD. UM, HOW CAN I GET THE PRESENTATION? UH, OH, HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, NEXT, SO MY NAME IS CLAIRE HEMPHILL. UM, AS GREG MENTIONED, I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT. I WORK WITH DESIGN WORKSHOP. UH, WE'RE A PLANNING LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRM LOCATED HERE IN AUSTIN. UM, AND, UM, I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH, UM, WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO ON THE ZILKER PARK VISION PLAN, UM, SINCE FEBRUARY NEXT LINE. AND I KNOW WE HAVE ABBREVIATED TIME TONIGHT. I DO ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY TO VISIT THE WEBSITE, WHICH IS AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV/ZILKER VISION. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION UP THERE. UM, BUT WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. AND I KNOW A LOT OF YOU HAVE, UM, BEEN INVOLVED WITH OUR PROCESS SO FAR, SO THANK YOU FOR ANY AND ALL INPUT THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE. UM, WE ARE TECHNICALLY ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THIS PROJECT AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SITE ANALYSIS, A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND CO INCLUDING SMALL GROUP DISCUSSIONS TO LARGE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND A SERIES OF POP-UPS. UM, DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, WE HAVE BEEN MOSTLY VIRTUAL, ALTHOUGH IN THE MONTH OF JULY, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUT AND ENJOY THE SUMMER, UM, ON A, IN A SERIES OF POP-UPS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THE GOAL WITH THOSE POP-UPS IS TO REACH OUT TO, UM, THE ENTIRE CITY OF AUSTIN. SO WE GO TO ONE IN EACH DISTRICT AND AN ANOTHER POP-UP IN ZILKER, AND WE'LL BE DOING THAT AGAIN THIS FALL, UM, AS WE HAVE SOME DESIGN ALTERNATIVES TO PRESENT TO PEOPLE. SO LOOKING AHEAD AT THE SECOND HALF OF THE PROJECT, WE'LL HAVE OUR NEXT COMMUNITY MEETING OCTOBER 19TH, WHERE WE GO OVER DESIGN ALTERNATIVES AND FOLLOWING THAT BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH INFORMATION TO CONSIDER AND REALLY THINK ABOUT, UM, AND GIVE INPUT ON. WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER SERIES OF SMALL GROUP DISCUSSIONS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER SERIES OF POPUPS. [03:15:01] SO THOSE ARE STILL, UM, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE SCHEDULING OF THOSE, HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THOSE WITH THE SURGE IN THE PANDEMIC THAT WE'RE DOING. UM, BUT THOSE ARE A PART OF OUR OUTREACH, UM, WITH THE FINAL GOAL BEING, UH, UH, ADOPTED PLAN IN, UH, SPRING OF IS NEXT YEAR. EXCITING. SO, UM, I'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON OUR PROGRESS OF BAR NEXT SLIDE. SO OUR FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING, THIS WAS BACK IN JUNE, JUNE 29TH. UM, WE HAD ABOUT 140 PEOPLE ATTEND. UM, THIS WAS ABOUT THE TIME THAT THE, UM, ZILKER CAFE CUP PROCESSES GOING THROUGH THIS BOARD. UM, SO WAS SOME KIND OF JOINT INTEREST FROM THAT PROCESS. UM, BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE THIS AS ACCESSIBLE AS POSSIBLE. SO WE HAD A MEETING THROUGH ZOOM WEBINAR. WE ALSO STREAMED IT THROUGH FACEBOOK LIVE. WE HAD SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETERS AND AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE INTERPRETERS. UM, AND THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE ALSO HAD A LIVE POLLING MECHANISM CALLED MENTIMETER AND THAT ALLOWED PEOPLE TO USE EITHER THE COMPUTERS OR SMART PHONES TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ALIVE WHILE WE WERE DOING THE MEETING. UM, BUT THOSE MEETING, THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ALSO AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF JULY DURING OUR POP-UPS IN THAT MEETING, WE WENT OVER, UM, THE SITE ANALYSIS AND ALL OF THE, THE FINDINGS WE HAD, UM, OUR TEAM HAD COLLECTIVELY PUT TOGETHER ON IS OPRAH PARK AS THIS IS THE FIRST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE 350 ACRES. UM, SINCE IT WAS DESIGNATED A PARK AND THERE WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO PULL TOGETHER AND PUT IN A COMPREHENSIVE BOARD, WE ALSO CAME UP WITH SOME DRAFT GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND GOALS AND RECEIVED A LOT OF REALLY GREAT INFORMATION ON THAT. I SHOULD NOTE THAT BEFORE OUR FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING, WE HAD A SURVEY THAT WAS STARTED, UM, AT THE TRAIL OF LIGHTS LAST YEAR AND CLOSED OUT IN JUNE IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS MEETING. AND WE HAD ABOUT 4,000, UM, SURVEY TAKERS, AND THAT GAVE US A GOOD BASELINE FOR WHAT PEOPLE THOUGHT OF, UM, CHALLENGES AND, UM, OPPORTUNITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARK. NEXT SLIDE, NEXT SIGN. SO, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING, WE HAD OUR POP-UPS AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS JUST A LISTING OF EVERYWHERE WE WENT, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS SUMMER IT'S HOT OUTSIDE. UM, WE PAIRED OUR POP-UPS WITH, UM, THE POOLS THAT WERE, UM, STARTING TO REOPEN AND WE'RE FREE TO THE PUBLIC, UM, EXCEPT FOR BARTON SPRINGS POOL, UM, THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF JULY. AND, UM, THROUGH THAT PUSH, WE, UM, HAD AN ADDITIONAL, ALMOST 800 OR OVER 800 SURVEY TAKERS, UM, THAT THIS OUTREACH REALLY HELPED TO, UM, EXPAND UPON WHAT WE HAD HEARD DURING THE LIVE MEETING. UM, DESIGN WORKSHOP IS SCOPED FOR THE POPUPS THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT. UM, BUT WE WENT IN TO CAPITALIZE ON A LOT OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE STARTING TO ARISE, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY, UM, AND JUST TOOK, UM, SOME OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THE HILLSIDE CONCERT SERIES BLUES ON THE GREEN. UM, WE WERE OUT IN CIRCLE C UM, AT THE, UH, DICK NICHOLS, UM, ONE SATURDAY. AND SO, UM, LOOKING AHEAD, UM, WE'RE STARTING TO FEEL AS IF THE SURGEON, THE PANDEMIC, BUT WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO CAPITALIZE ON ALL OPPORTUNITIES. WE HAVE TO BE OUT AND, UM, INTERACT WITH, UM, THE ENTIRE CITY OF AUSTIN NEXT LINE. SO ROUGHLY, UM, THIS IS OUR SURVEY THAT FOLLOWED THE COMMUNITY MEETING AND WAS PUSHED THROUGH BY THE POP-UPS. UM, WE HAVE A SERIES OF DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE COMPARED TO OUR SURVEY TAKERS AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN DEMOGRAPHICS, BECAUSE WE WANT TO TRY TO ACHIEVE, UM, REACHING OUT TO, UH, REPRESENTATION OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN. YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK TO DO, AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO OUR YOUTH IN THE CITY, AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP LEFT, UM, DIAGRAM, AND AS FAR AS RACE, WE STILL REALLY NEED TO PUSH OUR OUTREACH TO THE BLACK AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN POPULATION, THE LATINO AND HISPANIC POPULATION AND THE ASIAN AND ASIAN AMERICAN POPULATION, UM, SO THAT THEY, THEIR VOICES CAN BE HEARD. NEXT SLIDE. UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO FIND OUT, UM, WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIVING, THEY WERE TAKING THE SURVEY, UM, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE'VE ASKED BOTH DISTRICT, NOT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT DISTRICT THEY LIVE IN. UM, WE ALSO COMPARED THAT TO [03:20:01] THE ZIP CODES. SO THOSE IN DARK BLUE ARE WHERE WE HAD THE MOST RESPONDENTS, UM, OUR ZIP CODE, UM, GOING DOWN TO THE, THE LIGHTER, UM, COLORS REPRESENTING WHERE WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM AS MANY PEOPLE. UM, BUT WE ARE GETTING A PRETTY GOOD REPRESENTATION OF THOSE THAT LIVE IN AUSTIN. ALTHOUGH NOT SURPRISINGLY BECAUSE IT WAS ADJACENCY HEARING A LOT FROM DISTRICT FIVE. EXCELLENT. OTHER, SINCE WE ASKED ABOUT HOW PEOPLE SPEND MONEY AT THE PARK WILL ENTRY AND PARKING AND SPECIAL EVENTS, UM, PEOPLE ARE VISITING MOST OF THE TIME, JUST A FEW TIMES A YEAR OR TWO, ONE TO THREE TIMES A MONTH. UM, WE ASK PEOPLE HOW THEY'RE GETTING TO THE PARK CURRENTLY, MOSTLY DRIVING AND HAVE BY A LARGE PERCENT. AND, UM, AT THE TIME OF DAY PEOPLE ARE VISITING. IT REALLY DOES VARY. WE ASKED ABOUT, ABOUT EVENTS. SO, UM, EXCUSE ME, WHICH EVENTS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HURT A LOT ABOUT ACL, UM, BLUES ON THE GREEN, UM, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO, WHO GO TO OTHER EVENTS THAT ARE THERE, UM, AND PROGRAM TAKEN PROGRAMS AT THE PARK. NEXT SLIDE. UM, AND THEN WHAT IS THE BIGGEST BARRIER TO ENJOYMENT OF, OF ZILKER PARK, UM, TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND LACK OF PARKING FOR MOST OF THE CITY THAT HAS TO, CAN'T JUST WALK OVER TO ZILKER PARK. THOSE ARE SOME REALLY BIG CHALLENGES TO ADDRESS. AND THEN THE TOP THREE ISSUES THAT THE ZILKER PARK VISION PLAN SHOULD ADDRESS INCLUDE PARKING I'M SOLVING FOR THAT THINKING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE, INCLUDING URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT AND IMPACTS ON WATER QUALITY, MOSTLY IN BARTON CREEK. THAT'S FINE. UM, WE ASKED A LOT ABOUT GOALS AND EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES OF NATURE AND ECOLOGY, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION, HISTORY, ABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY, AND YOU CAN SEE OUR RESULTS HERE ARE AT THE VERY TOP WHERE YOU SEE THE PERCENTAGES OF PEOPLE ARE THINKING THAT THESE GOALS ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK, BUT WE RECEIVED REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THEM EVEN BETTER, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE TEXT, UM, FALLING UNDERNEATH EACH OF THE CATEGORIES. NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. SORRY. UM, SECOND COMMUNITY MEETING. UM, WE HAD, UM, THE NUMBER WAS ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, BUT AROUND 80 PARTICIPANTS. UM, WE HAD THE SAME SETUP, UM, WHERE WE ALSO STREAMED ON FACEBOOK WIFE HAD A SPANISH LANGUAGE AND AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE INTERPRETER. UM, AND WE, UM, IN THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS MEETING REALLY FOCUSED ON PROGRAMMING, WHAT PEOPLE, UM, WHAT PROGRAMS PEOPLE THOUGHT WERE MISSING, WHAT, UM, MAYBE DIDN'T BELONG AT ZILKER, WHAT REALLY NEEDED TO REMAIN AT SOAKER. AND ALSO WE TALKED ABOUT FUNDING, UM, FROM THAT FIRST MEETING WE LEARNED, UM, THAT, UM, WE NEEDED TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL AND PROVIDE MORE OF A PRIMER ON HOW BUDGETS OR HOW PARKS ARE FUNDED WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UM, SO, UM, ABOUT HALF OF OUR PRESENTATION REALLY DUG INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL. AND, UM, YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. UM, WE HEARD, UM, PEOPLE REALLY ENJOY, UM, THE, UH, THE GARDENS, THE VARIOUS FACILITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY AT THE PARK. UM, BUT, UH, JUST LIKE THE FIRST MEETING, WE HEARD BETTER CONNECTIVITY, MORE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO BIKE, SIDEWALKS, ACCESSIBILITY, BEING IN NATURE, AND REALLY PRESERVING WHAT IS PRECIOUS FOR ZILKER TODAY, AS IMPORTANT TO, UM, HOW WE THINK ABOUT PROGRAMMING FOR ZILKER. AND WE DID ASK THE QUESTION IF YOU DON'T FEEL WELCOME IN ZILKER IT'S BECAUSE OF, UM, AND, UH, THERE ARE MANY ANSWERS HERE, BUT, UM, BEYOND NONE OF THESE, I FEEL WELCOME, WHICH WAS THE MAJORITY OF OUR SURVEY TAKERS AT THE TIME. UM, THERE WAS, WE DON'T, THERE'S NOT A CONVENIENT WAY FOR ME TO ACCESS THE PARK IN ADDITION TO OTHER. AND IF PEOPLE GO TO TAKE THE SURVEY NOW, UM, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, WRITE MORE EXPLANATION IF YOU ANSWER ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS AS OTHER NEXT LINE, UM, REGARDING FUNDING, THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED WERE, UM, UM, IF PEOPLE AGREED WITH THIS STATEMENT, THAT ZILKER PARK IS A WELL-MAINTAINED PARK. UM, IF YOU ADD A STRONGLY DISAGREE, DISAGREE, UM, THAT'S ABOUT 48% PEOPLE DISAGREEING WITH THAT STATEMENT. UM, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, UM, THERE WAS ABOUT, UH, OVER A THIRD OF PEOPLE THAT AGREE THAT [03:25:01] IT IS A WELL-MAINTAINED PARK. UM, BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW THE GREAT LAWN AND IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL AND WELL MAINTAINED, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE BANKS ALONG BARTON CREEK, YOU GET A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PICTURE OF THE MAINTENANCE IN THE PARK. SO THAT MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE DISPARITY AND ANSWERS HERE. UM, AND WE ALSO ASKED, UH, HOW PEOPLE GOT PEOPLE'S TEMPERATURE ABOUT FUNDING PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE, UM, ABOUT IF PEOPLE WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY FOR SOME PROGRAMS OR ACTIVITIES. UM, THERE WAS, THERE WAS SUPPORT FOR FEES, BUT PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO SEE AN EQUITY PLAN TO REDUCE COSTS FOR THOSE IN FINANCIAL NEED AND AS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR, UM, UH, RESPONSE FOR, UM, HOW PEOPLE FELT ABOUT USING PARKING AS A FUNDING SOURCE FOR ZILKER OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE. UM, SO THERE WAS ABOUT OVER 25% SAID THEY DON'T THINK PARKING SHOULD BE PART OF THE FUNDING OF ZILKER. UM, BUT IF YOU ADD UP THE FIRST THREE COLUMNS THERE SUPPORTING PARKING FEES, SUPPORTING PARKING FEES AND A DISCOUNT OR SUPPORTING PARKING FEES ON PEAK PERIODS, THERE IS SUPPORT FOR, FOR PARKING, PERHAPS PAYING FOR SOME OPERATIONS MAINTENANCE IN THE PARK, NEXT SLIDE. SO NEXT STEPS, UM, THIS IS WHERE WE START GETTING ALL OF THOSE IDEAS AND THE GREAT IDEAS THAT WE'VE HEARD THROUGH OUR POP-UPS AND SMALL GROUP DISCUSSIONS AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND PUTTING PEN TO PAPER. UM, WE ARE DOING THAT RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK, AND WE'RE STARTING TO, UM, ITERATE THOSE DESIGN ALTERNATIVES IN PREPARATION FOR OUR OCTOBER MEETING, WHICH IS QUICKLY APPROACHING. UM, OCTOBER 19TH IS, UM, ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS AWAY. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO START PUSHING THOSE INVITATIONS OUT AND GETTING PEOPLE INTERESTED IN WHAT THIS REALLY BIG NEXT MEETING WILL BE ABOUT IS WEIGHING IN ON THE, THE FUTURE OF, OF ZILKER PARK. AND SO THAT NEXT MEETING WE'LL BE HAVING A LOT OF INFORMATION, A LOT OF, UM, THINGS FOR PEOPLE TO CONSIDER AND, UH, PROVIDE INPUT ON FOLLOWED BY OUR, UM, NEXT ROUND OF POP-UPS AND SMALL GROUP DISCUSSIONS. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE TAKING QUESTIONS NOW, BUT, UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE. THANK YOU, STRUGGLING. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND, UM, I KNOW THIS IS A BRIEFING AND, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY ACTION ON IT, BUT IF ANYBODY, UH, HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, THIS WOULD, UM, THIS IS THE TIME. SO I'LL REALLY QUICKLY GO AROUND AND SEE IF ANYBODY DOES THIS STORY WITH YOU. UM, BOARD MEMBER CUT. CYBIL. I WAS JUST THINKING HOW GOOD THE OUTREACH IS ON THIS. THAT I REALLY FEEL LIKE I SAW IT IN A NUMBER OF, IN A NUMBER OF PLACES YOU GAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES. I KNOW PEOPLE WHO WENT TO POPUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO COMPLIMENT YOU BECAUSE LIKE, LIKE YOU'VE SEEN TONIGHT, THAT'S SOMETHING WE STRUGGLE WITH. AND I THINK THAT, UM, THIS IS, UH, I THINK THIS IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK ON THIS. I KNOW IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART TO EVERYBODY, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO CARE. SO THANKS FOR YOUR WORK. THANK YOU. KAY. BOARD MEMBER BERNARD. UM, NO QUESTIONS, BUT I AGREE. THE OUTREACH IS REALLY GOOD. I THOUGHT, UM, LOTS OF SIGNS AND OPPORTUNITIES EVERYWHERE TO PARTICIPATE. RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'RE A MEMBER. UM, UM, WHERE AM I? WE'RE MOVING RENALDI. SORRY. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THE MOMENT. UM, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE LEARNING ABOUT, UM, EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING WITH ENGAGEMENT SO FAR, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, JUST KEEPING TABS ON IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, GREAT JOB. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT WORK YOU'RE DOING. UM, I THINK YOU ARE HELPING TO ENERGIZE AUSTIN BY GETTING THEM INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, AND YOU'RE VERY COMPREHENSIVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR. OKAY. UM, TO, UM, DIPLOMA HAD TO MAKE IT OVER TO THE, THE UNMUTE. SO APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. I ACTUALLY HAVE A DIFFERENT TAKE ON THE OUTREACH. UM, I THINK THE OUTREACH TO THE ANGLO COMMUNITY IS GREAT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S SHOWN SO FAR. WHEN YOU LOOK AT 60 CHEAPER SCENT, UNFORTUNATELY, THE AUSTIN, THE PERCENTAGE ON THE AUSTIN DEMOGRAPH, UM, IS LEFT OUT ON SLIDE NINE. [03:30:01] SO ALL, IF YOU LOOK AT SLIDE NINE AND YOU SHOW THE, THE, THE PERCENTAGE FOR, UH, ANGLO COMMUNITY IS MUCH HIGHER. SO, UM, I THINK THEY'RE DOING, I THINK THAT THAT OUTREACH IS DOING A GREAT JOB. I CAN, I CAN, I WOULD AGREE WITH FOLKS, I THINK ON THE LATINO COMMUNITY, THE OUTREACH ISN'T THERE IT'S AT 18%, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S LIKE ALMOST HALF THE GRAPH. SO 18% OF AUSTIN, 6% ON ASIA, WE HAVEN'T HIT ON THE ASIAN SIDE. UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD HEAD BIRACIAL. WE HAVEN'T HIT ON AFRICAN-AMERICAN AFRICAN-AMERICAN LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALMOST HALF TOO. AND I'M JUST REMINDED, AND I UNDERSTAND THE STRUGGLES. UM, I JUST REMINDED, I SERVED ON ONE BOARD ONCE AND I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DIVERSITY OF NEEDING WITHIN THE, IN THAT BOARD. AND THEY, YOU KNOW, SAID RICH, IT'S JUST NOT OUR CIRCLES, BUT WE KNOW YOU. AND I WAS THE ONLY PERSON OF COLOR ON THAT BOARD. AND SO YOU STRUGGLE AND SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING DIVERSITY, BOTH IN THE CORPORATE WORLD. IT'S IMPORTANT HAVING DIVERSITY IN ON THE OUTREACH TEAM, IT'S IMPORTANT, HAVING DIVERSITY, JUST ALL AROUND IT, HOW WE HAVE THE CONNECTIVITY TO DIVERSE POPULATIONS BECAUSE IT'S MISSING SOMEWHERE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK, YEAH, THE FOLKS ARE OUT THERE. YOU JUST DON'T THE CONNECTIVITY JUST ISN'T THERE. SO I GET THAT, THE STRUGGLE I GET IT, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE NEED. WE NEED SOME DIVERSE TEAMS AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE ACCEPTABLE FOR A LOT OF FOLKS. UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS, I MEAN, WE LOOK AT GOALS AND DESIGNS ON SLIDE 14, WE TALK ABOUT RESPONSES. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE, OH, SO ONE, OH, ACTUALLY GO BACK ON SLIDE NINE. I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT OUR, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S HIDING THE BALL. THIS IS WHAT THE PERCENTAGE WE'VE DONE. HERE'S THE GRAPH OF WHAT WE ARE, BUT WE'RE NOT TELLING YOU WHAT THAT EXTRA PERCENTAGE OF THE CITY IS. SO LET'S PUT THAT IN THERE, BOTH IN SAME THING ON THE AGE AND THE REST OF THE NUMBERS, GOING TO GOALS AND DESIGNS ON SLIDE 14. IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING. AND IT'S MORE ACADEMIC PROBABLY THAN ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE ZIP CODE RESPONSE. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THOSE WHO DON'T PRIORITIZE INCLUSIVITY AND KIND OF CURIOUS WHAT ZIP CODE THAT IS. I MEAN, HONESTLY, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IS IT MY AREA TOWN OR, OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER AREA TOWNS. SO I LIKE TO SEE THAT THAT'S THE LOWEST PERCENTAGE OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK YOU THOUGHT THAT WAS, SHOULD BE A GOAL OR BULLYING DESIGN. UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT. I REALLY DO APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, LAST TIME THIS CAME UP, IT WAS A DISCUSSION RELATING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE POP-UPS AND I WAS VERY CRITICAL OR CONCERNED, ACTUALLY CONCERNS ABOUT OR WORRIED ABOUT THE A POP-UP FOR DISTRICT SIX AND DISTRICT EIGHT HAPPENING ON A MONDAY MORNING DURING COMMUTE. UM, AND THAT WAS A SEVEN, 10 TIMEFRAME. I'M KIND OF STILL CURIOUS AT WHAT THAT TURNOUT WOULD BE. SO I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL TOUCHES, WHERE THE SURVEY RESPONSES ASSOCIATED WITH EACH ONE OF THESE EVENTS. AND THEN IF ANYTHING ELSE IS JUST A LESSON LEARNED, UM, I'VE DONE OUTREACH IN THIS STUDY BEFORE, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO LOOK FOR WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S THE RIGHT, WHERE'S THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY BY WHAT I DO APPRECIATE IS THE ADDITIONAL POP-UP THAT WAS DONE, UM, OVER AT CIRCLE C METRO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT, IT SAYS CIRCLE, SO YOU HAVE ANOTHER CIRCLE. SEE METRO OVER WAS DONE OVER, GOES OVER, UH, AWFUL, AWFUL BACKEND, BUT REGARDLESS, I'M HAPPY ABOUT THAT. I'M HAPPY THAT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE GETTING YOU TO HAVE GOTTEN THE POP-UPS AND I'M THRILLED. I'M HOPING WE'LL SEE, BE ABLE TO CLOSE SOME OF THAT DIVERSITY GAP. I KNOW THAT'S THE TENT FOR THE FUTURE POP-UP SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. AND SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE WRAPPED IN THE OVERALL DIVERSITY NUMBER. AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT I'VE BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE ENJOYED THE PRESENTATIONS AND THE WORK OF STAFF AND OUR CONSULTING TEAM, AND, YOU KNOW, I DO APPRECIATE IT. YES. DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT AT ALL HIS COMMENTS EITHER WHEN YOU SURE. UM, I'LL JUMP IN AND SAY, THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR FOR THOSE COMMENTS. UM, AND WE, WE REALIZED THAT WE'RE, WE'RE STILL REALLY PUSHING TO EXPAND THE DIVERSITY OF OUR SURVEY TAKERS AND THOSE WHO ARE PROVIDING INPUT. UM, WE'RE ACTUALLY MEETING AS A COMMUNICATION TEAM ON THE ZILKER PROJECT TOMORROW TO STRATEGIZE THE BACK HALF OF THIS PROJECT AND WHERE WE CAN DO BETTER. UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE GOT SOME STRATEGIES THERE. UM, AND, UM, WE, WE REALLY DO WANT TO CLOSE THE GAPS ON WHERE YOU SEE THE COMPARISON OF THE AUSTIN DEMOGRAPHY WITH OUR SURVEY RESPONSES SO FAR AND SNUGGLE. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. BOARD MEMBERS, THE CARLA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS [03:35:01] OR COMMENTS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION. THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GREAT INFORMATION HERE AND I'M JUST, YEAH. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING IT DEVELOP. THANK YOU. AND WHEN WE WERE FAST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FIRST TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND HOPE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE NEXT ONES. I DO HAVE A COMMENT AND IT'S REALLY NOT, UM, DIRECTED TOWARDS DESIGN WORKSHOP AND THE CONSULTANTS AS MUCH AS IT IS TOWARDS THE, I THINK, I THINK THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT ITSELF, AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, I REALLY HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THE, THE BIFURCATION, THE SEPARATION OF THE RE-PURPOSING OF THE CONCESSION STAND AT ZILKER PARK FROM THE VISION PLAN. IT'S JUST, IT FEELS SO AWKWARD TO ME THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CREATING A DESTINATION WITH A FENCED OFF AREA ONLY TO BE USED BY THE PATRONS OF THIS RESTAURANT. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A SEPARATE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE VISION PLAN FOR THE PARK AND WHAT PURPOSES WE WANT THIS VERY CONGESTED AREA TO SERVE IN. SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY AS MISS HUMBLE STATED, THE FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING TOOK PLACE ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS THE FIRST TIME THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD WAS GOING TO CONSIDER THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. AND SO BOTH OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS START WITH THIS DISCLAIMER THAT THE MEETING IS NOT ABOUT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. IT'S NOT A PART OF THE VISION PLAN AND IT WON'T BE DISCUSSED AT THAT POINT. HOWEVER, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE ZILKER REVISION PLAN COMPLETELY SORT OF ALIGNS AND TAKES INTO ACCOUNT WHAT PARD IS DESCRIBING AS THE REASONS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SO TO EXPLAIN, LET ME, OKAY. THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION FROM JUNE 22ND ON THE ZILKER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SERVING ALCOHOL AT THE CAFE AND HAVING A PRIVATE AREA FOR THOSE CUSTOMERS TO SIT AND ENJOY. IT SAYS IT IS PART'S INTENTION TO HAVE THIS OPRAH CAFE SERVED NOT ONLY AS A CONVENIENCE FOR PARK USERS, BUT ALSO AS A DESTINATION, THE AVAILABILITY OF BUREN WINE TO COMPLIMENT THE MENU ITEMS COULD ENHANCE THE OVERALL PARK USER EXPERIENCE. OKAY. SO WHAT ARE THE PURPOSES OF THE ZILKER PARK VISION PLAN, UH, TO QUOTE FROM THE PRESENTATION AT THE FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING NUMBER ONE RECOMMENDATIONS OF ENHANCEMENTS OF THE PARKS, EXISTING FACILITIES AND PROGRAMS. NUMBER TWO, DETERMINE RECREATIONAL AMENITY NEEDS. NUMBER THREE, RESTORATIVE FOCUS ON THE HISTORIC CULTURAL AND ECOLOGICAL FEATURES. SO IT'S LIKE THE PURPOSES OF THE PLAN ARE THE EXACT THING WE'RE DECIDING ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, BUT WE'RE NOT UTILIZING THIS ROBUST COMMUNITY INPUT PROCEDURE WE HAVE ON THIS REALLY CRITICAL ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK WE'RE GETTING ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT HAS TO DO WITH THIS AREA IS CROWDED. WE NEED PARKING FOR THE PLAYGROUND IN THE POOL, NOT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST COMING HERE TO EAT AND DRINK. I MEAN, IT SEEMS JUST LIKE A REALLY CRITICAL ISSUE AND WE'RE BIFURCATING IT AND SAYING, NO, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THESE TWO THINGS. WE HAVE THIS GREAT INPUT PROCESS WITH ALL OF THESE AMAZING DIGITAL TOOLS AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND POPUPS GOING ON, BUT WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE A CAFE WITH FANCY FOOD AND A PRIVATE AREA VERSUS WHAT WE FORMERLY HAD, YOU KNOW, WHICH WAS A CONCESSION STAND TO SERVE THE USERS OF THE AREA WHO WERE USING THE OTHER PARK AMENITIES. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT COMMENT THAT I FELT REALLY FRUSTRATED, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DISCUSS SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS CREATING A NEW DESTINATION WITHIN THE PARK AS PART OF THE VISION PLAN. AND I HOPE THE DEPARTMENT WOULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, TELLING THE DESIGN WORKSHOP THAT THEY CAN DO A COUPLE OF SURVEY QUESTIONS ON THAT ISSUE. THEY DO THESE COOL LITTLE AUTOMATIC SURVEYS DURING THE MEETINGS, AND WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, 150 ON THE MEETING, BUT WE'RE NOT TAKING ANY INPUT IN IT ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. DO WE WANT, UH, AS, AS A DESTINATION, IT'S ALL ABOUT FOOD AND BEVERAGE AND THE PARK. THAT SEEMS LIKE A CRITICAL ISSUE THAT COULD GO INTO THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS UOP. UM, AND THOSE WERE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER PASS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND THE STAFF WILL GET TOGETHER AND CERTAINLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION [03:40:01] CONSIDERATION YOUR FEEDBACK FROM TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER FAFSA. I, I, I THINK YOU RAISED AN EXCELLENT POINT AND I AM INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT STAFF COMES BACK WITH AFTER THEY, UM, TALK ABOUT IT. AND, UM, I ALSO APPRECIATED, UM, VICE TERROR DIPLOMAS COMMENTS AS WELL. I'M GONNA STOP BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO, TO MOVE ON BECAUSE IT IS NOW OFFICIALLY NINE 19. AND I KNOW WE HAVE A HARD STOP AT NINE 30. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO, UM, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND THE WORK THAT YOU, THEY, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT, UM, YOUR PROGRESS AND THANK YOU. OKAY. [D.5. Update from South Central Waterfront Advisory Board.] GIVEN THAT, UM, WE HAVE SOME ITEMS FROM BOARD MEMBERS AND THERE'S SEVERAL COMMITTEES. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE, UM, HAVE TO HEAR FROM ALL OF THEM. I KNOW WOMEN WERE COTTON CYBIL. DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE SOUTH CENTER, WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD AND THESE SPECIAL MEETING THAT WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO? UM, YES, I DO. I'VE GOT SOME IMPORTANT INFORMATION. UM, THE SCHWAB, THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD HAS PUT IN FRONT OF, OR THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, A PROPOSAL TO HAVE REPRESENTATION GO TO THE AEDC, WHICH IS THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHICH IS THE CITY'S VERSION OF A CORPORATION THAT WILL OVERSEE IT AS IMPORTANT, UM, WATERFRONT AREA, WHICH IS ALL ALONG THE LAKE FROM CONGRESS. UM, ALMOST ALL THE WAY TO AND, UM, THE I'M SO SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WENT OFF. UM, ANYWAY, THEY'RE PUTTING, SO THEY'RE PUTTING THAT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL TO, TO APPROVE THIS ADDITIONAL ADVISORY. AND IT INCLUDES ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY REPRESENTING ON THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD. SO THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE PARKS WILL STILL HAVE A VOICE AND THERE'S SOME REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF COMING UP. UM, AT THIS LAST MEETING, WE HEARD THAT THE PUD IS TRAVELING THROUGH, UM, THE PROCESS. AND I HAVE HEARD FROM BOOTS ON THE GROUND, PEOPLE, THIS IS GOING TO COME BEFORE US SOONER THAN LATER, AND WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE THE PUD IS DIFFERENT THAN THE VISION PLAN. THE VISION PLAN HAS BEEN WORKED ON SINCE 2012. IT HAS STAKEHOLDERS FROM ALL OF THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES, HAVE STAKEHOLDERS FROM WATER. UM, UH, WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY? ENVIRONMENTAL AND WATERSHED PROTECTION AND ALL THAT STUFF. UM, AND ALL THESE PEOPLE PUT TOGETHER A VISION PLAN, BUT THE PUD WOULD SUPERSEDE THAT. AND THE DEVELOPER IS PUSHING NOW BECAUSE THE CITY HAS DELAYED TO GET THIS BOARD, THIS CORPORATION IN PLACE. UM, SO THE PUD WOULD TAKE OVER SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND ALLOW THE DEVELOPER. HE'S TRYING TO PUSH FIRE HEIGHTS UP TO 500 FOOT BUILDINGS WHERE IT WAS ZONED TO BE NINE 90 FOOT BUILDINGS. AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. AND PART OF THE PROBLEM IS IT AFFECTS THE PARK AND THE TRAIL AND THE TRAIL IN THE, IN THE PLAN. UM, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS IN OUR MEETING WHEN WE GET TOGETHER ON THE 14TH, I'M HOPING THAT THE, THE, THE PUD WOULD ONLY PUT THE TRAIL IN AN EASEMENT RATHER THAN GIVING IT THE SPACE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE SET BACK IN SOME PLACES FROM THE RIVER WHERE IT'S ERODING AND, UM, THE SIGNATURE PARK, WHICH WAS PART OF THE VISION PLAN, WHICH IS ALL THAT RIVERFRONT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE VERY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC. AND THE PUD ELIMINATES SOME OF THAT ACCESSIBILITY. AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. SO, UM, I'M SORRY TO HAVE TO CALL AN EXTRA MEETING FOR IT CAUSE WE'VE BEEN SO BUSY, BUT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO DROP IN FRONT OF US, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS ON THIS AND GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO THAT'S MY UPDATE. SO, UM, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU. UM, [D.2. Update from Joint Working Group with the Environmental Commission.] I THINK UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS SOMETHING ELSE [D.3. Update from Joint Working Group with the Animal Advisory Commission.] FROM ONE OF THE OTHER WORKING GROUPS [D.4. Update from Downtown Commission.] OR THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE THAT THEY [D.6. Update from Joint Sustainability Committee.] FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO, UM, TO BE AWARE OF TODAY, I'D LIKE TO JUST MOVE ON AND SEE IF [E. DIRECTOR’S REPORT ON PROGRAM AND PROJECT UPDATES AND EVENTS] HAS ANY HIGHLIGHTS AND THEN GO ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. IF WE CAN JUST DO THAT ALL WITHIN SIX MINUTES. YEAH. SO BOARD MEMBERS, I WILL KIMBERLY MCNEALY SERVING AS THE DIRECTOR FOR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. I'LL JUST DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO DIFFERENT PAGES AND SUBJECT MATTER THAT I THINK WE'LL BE INTERESTED IN. OF COURSE, I KNOW YOU'RE VERY INTERESTED IN THE WHOLE REPORT, BUT NOT PAGE TWO THERE'S, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT THE NORTH BURNETT. UM, I'M SORRY. NORTH HEARD ED, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN UP AT THE, UH, COUNCIL MEETING ON THIS, UM, ON THIS THURSDAY AND IT IS CALLED THE NORTH BURNETT GATEWAY [03:45:01] REGULATING PLAN AMENDMENT. AND SO YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING THAT IT CAME ABOUT VIA A RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL, UM, ON PAGE THREE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT APPEAL THAT WILL BE COMING BEFORE YOU REGARDING PARKLAND DEDICATION, AND THAT WILL LIKELY BE COMING. UM, BEFORE YOU, ON SEPTEMBER 14TH, ALONG WITH THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, UH, BRIEFING ON PAGE SIX, THERE'S SOME INTERESTING INFORMATION ABOUT A NEW PLAYGROUND THAT WAS OPENED UP AT WALNUT CREEK PARK AND ALSO, UM, SOME AWARDS THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WAS ABLE TO RECEIVE FROM THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE. LASTLY, I DID SEND A MEMO TO YOU REGARDING THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO HELP PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, OUR SUCCESSES WITH THE BUDGET PROCESS THIS YEAR. AND ON PAGE 10, THERE'S A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, FOR BOARD MEMBER DIPLOMA ON PAGE 10 IS A INFORMATION ABOUT A NEW RECREATION MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. SO THAT'S THE REGISTRATION SYSTEM. AND I KNOW THAT OVER THE YEARS, UM, THERE HAS BEEN SOME STRUGGLES WITH THAT SYSTEM. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, LOOKING INTO A DIFFERENT SYSTEM THAT MIGHT BETTER MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND I APPRECIATE STAFF BRINGING ME INTO THAT CONVERSATION. THAT WAS GREAT. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [F. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] OKAY. SO LET'S REALLY QUICKLY JUST GO AROUND AND SEE IF ANYBODY HAS ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I'LL START WITH YOU, UH, BOARD MEMBER. UH, CONSENTABLE THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS, UM, WE HAVE, I HAVE MET A PERSON WHO IS A SCHOLAR ABOUT THE WALLER CREEK AREA, AND SHE HAS PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE THAT'S COMING OUT IN NOVEMBER. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING FOR US AS WE WERE TALKING IN THE WATERLOO GREENWAY NAMING PROCESS ABOUT MAKING THAT A MORE ACCESSIBLE, MORE INCLUSIVE, UM, HISTORIC, UH, PLACE FOR NAMING. UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING AT SOME POINT TO EITHER BRING DR. PACE IN, TO TALK TO US OR TO AT LEAST, UM, SHARE PARTS OF HER ARTICLE THAT I THINK WOULD BE RELEVANT WITH US AND WITH THE WATERLOO GREENWAY CONSERVANCY. THANK YOU, UH, FOR MOVING TO CARLA, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. THANK YOU. GREAT. UH, AND KEEP REMEMBER HUG, MAN. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. THANK YOU. SURE. THANK YOU. UH, VICE CHAIR DIPLOMA. YES. UH, FIRST WOULD BE, UH, THE AMENDING OF THE BYLAWS TO REFLECT THE ABILITY TO, UM, HAVE A VOTE WITHOUT, WITHOUT THE, UH, FROM F UH, AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF SIX MEMBERS. SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO, TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. SO WE DON'T HAVE A REPEAT OF WHAT WE HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE ZILKER, SORRY, I HAVE SOME WINDOWS POPPING UP. I DIDN'T, I WAS TRYING TO ADD THOSE. AND SO I FOUND A, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE OTHER ORDINANCES, WELL, I GUESS I CAN'T SAY THIS. SO JUST SAY, I LIKE TO HAVE THAT. AND IF THERE'S, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF LANGUAGE, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN A PRE-APPROVED AND A TEMPLATE THAT WE CAN GO OVER AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE, UH, AN UPDATE, A SCHEDULE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AND SCENIC BROOKE. AND THEN THE THIRD ITEM WOULD BE, UH, I WOULD LOVE A VOTE OR A CONVERSATION, UM, RELATING TO THE AUSTIN ROWING CENTERS, SUGGESTION RELATING, UH, ABOUT A, A COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOAT HOUSE BASICALLY THERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION THAT MEETS THE INTENT OF THE, UH, OF THE, OF THE TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AS WELL AS OUR, OUR ROWERS AND A LONGSTANDING INSTITUTION OF THE AUSTIN RONNIE CENTER, WHICH IS OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, SO THAT'S WHAT I, I DON'T KNOW IF HIS SOLUTION IS VIABLE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE, I LIKE BREASTS BASICALLY CHAIR TO TALK TO THE DIRECTOR TO SEE WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE. AND THEN IF THERE IS AN OPTION THERE THAT WE CAN DO, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE EVERY BALES IN SUCH A WORKING GROUP, OR IF THAT'S AN ACTION OF COUNCIL AND JUST HAVE THAT CLARIFICATION, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, THEN I'D LIKE YOUR SUPPORT IN GETTING IT MESSAGING. OKAY. UM, WELL REMEMBER BERNARD, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. THANKS. THANK YOU, WOMEN RINALDI, NO ITEMS AT THIS TIME. THANKS FOR THINGS. REMEMBER FAST, NOTHING. THANK [03:50:01] YOU. OKAY. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, THE PLAN FOR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE POOLS AND AQUATICS NEXT YEAR AND, AND CHANGES AS FAR AS LIKE LIFEGUARD RECRUITMENT AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THE BIGGEST COMMUNITY, UM, OUTREACH I'VE HAD THIS SUMMER IS PEOPLE UNHAPPY BECAUSE THERE WERE SO FEW POLLS OPEN AND SO FEW PLACES TO SWIM. AND SO I'D LIKE TO LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE PLANS ARE. SO WE, HOPEFULLY, IF I'M GOING TO HAVE THAT KIND OF SITUATION, JUST BOARD MEMBER, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS YEAR'S RECRUITMENT FOR LIFEGUARDS WAS VERY UNIQUE TO COVID RIGHT. AND THEN TWO YEARS PRIOR TO THIS, WE'VE HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH LIFEGUARDS TO BE ABLE TO OPEN ALL POOLS. AND WE'VE ALSO HAD AN INCREASE IN OUR BUDGET, BUT WE WILL PROVIDE YOU A COMPREHENSIVE SCHEDULE OF WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED, BUT PLEASE KNOW THAT THIS YEAR WAS VERY UNIQUE TO OUR INABILITY TO COVER. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? AND THEN I THINK WE, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, JUST GIVEN WHAT'S THE, THE COURSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE PANDEMIC. SO I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY BECAUSE IT, IT DOES GET VERY HOT AS YOU KNOW, IN AUSTIN AND OKAY, THANK YOU. I KNOW IT'S A REALLY LONG MEETING AND, AND YOU GUYS, UM, HANG IN THERE, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND WE, WE DID, WE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PARTICIPATION AND WE ARE AT NINE 30. SO SAMMY WILL BE HAPPY. WE ARE AT A HARD STOP AND THANK YOU, EVERYBODY HAVE A WONDERFUL, UM, MONTH AND WE'LL SEE WHAT WE'LL SEE YOU IN, HOPEFULLY IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. THANK YOU. BYE. BYE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.