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ORDER THE

[Independent Citizen's Redistricting Commission]

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CITIZENS, REDISTRICTING COMMISSION MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25TH, MATT, PLEASE DO ROLL CALL.

OKAY.

CAN WE SHOW IS GOING TO CALL YOUR NAME IF YOU JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AND THEN ALSO SAY HERE, BOTH THE AUDIO AND A VISUAL CONFIRMATION, UH, CANNON MORRIS HERE.

HARDEN SCHNEIDER HERE.

DEMPSEY GONZALEZ HERE, LANDS LEE.

KAMBO CALLED THEIR OWN.

YAY HERE.

QUINTEZ LANK AND FALCO.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A CLIENT.

YES.

WONDERFUL.

AND, UM, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHARE YOUR SCREEN, TO TAKE US THROUGH TODAY'S AGENDA.

OKAY.

SO, UM, OKAY.

SO THE MEETING GOALS FOR TODAY RECEIVE INFORMATION ABOUT CITIES, BOUNDARIES, AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC FORUMS AND MAPPING PROCESS RECEIVE UPDATES FROM WORKING GROUPS AND SUBCOMMITTEES.

I ASSUME SOME COMMUNICATION OF LIVE.

WE HAVE ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP FOR THAT.

UM, NUMBER ONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

NUMBER TWO, UNFINISHED BUSINESS, THE SERC MAY DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS. A DISCUSSION ON MAPPING PROCESS ONE-ON-ONES WITH MAPPING SPECIALISTS, I KNOW THREE NEW BUSINESS THE ICRC MAY DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS, A PRESENTATION FROM CITY TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT B PRESENTATION FROM CITY WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT SAY PRESENTATION FROM AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL, PRESIDENT DAILY DISCUSSION ABOUT IN-PERSON REGULAR MEETINGS STARTING SEPTEMBER ONE E UPDATE FROM PUBLIC FORUM WORKING GROUP ONE DISCUSSION ON WAY TO IMPROVE VIRTUAL PUBLIC FORUMS TO DISCUSSION ON IN-PERSON PUBLIC FORUMS. ANSWERING QUESTIONS ASKED BY PUBLIC AND COVID MEETING PROTOCOLS F UPDATE FROM COMMUNICATIONS WORKING GROUP G UPDATE FROM FINANCE COMMITTEE H UPDATE FROM FINAL REPORTS OF COMMITTEE I HOUSEKEEPING AND THEN FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MATT.

UH, WE'LL BEGIN WITH CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

AND YOU SAID ONE PERSON HAS SIGNED UP FOR THIS EVENING, RIGHT? OKAY, GREAT.

SO JUST TO REMINDER, EACH SPEAKER HAS THREE MINUTES AND JUST CLEARLY STATE YOUR NAME AND IN WHICH DISTRICT YOU RESIDE.

AND WE WELCOME ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OUR MEETING TONIGHT, WE JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT CITIZEN COMMUNICATION IS RESERVED FOR THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA AND IT'S NOT INTERRUPT PLAYER, I AGENDA ITEMS. SO MR. PECK, YOUNG, GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

GOOD TO BE WHERE HE MET HIM.

CHAIRMAN.

I WANT TO THANK THE ICRC FOR LETTING ME THESE BIG VIEW THIS EVENING.

I AM APPEARING AT THE REQUEST OF THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE NAACP AND HISPANIC COALITION TO REITERATE THE POSITION WE TOOK IN THE MEMO THAT ALL OF YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED, UH, CONCERNING THE PRESENTATION OF MAPS FOR THE FORM OF AUTHORITY DISTRICTS.

AND WE PLANNED TO HAVE THOSE MAPS READY ABOUT YOUR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH.

AND WE WISHED TO MAKE A FULL PRESENTATION OF BOTH THE MAPS AND THE DATA THAT WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER SO THAT YOU MAY ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR SEEK ANY CLARIFICATION, UH, AT ANY MA AT ANY COMMISSIONERS MAY DESIRE.

UH, WE ARE PREPARED TO APPEAR AT ANY POINT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE EIGHTH, UH, BEFORE OR AFTER YOUR MAPPING CONSULTANTS PRESENTATION.

WE DO HOWEVER EXPECT, EXPECT RECALLS THAT WE REPRESENT THE BLACK AND HISPANIC COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP, UH, MORE THAN THREE MINUTES TO LAY OUT THE PLANS AND THE DATA.

WE ALSO PLAN TO SHARE OUR PLANS WITH MR. KORBEL AS SOON AS THAT IS PRACTICAL AND HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE MEETING ON THE EIGHTH, AND WE BELIEVE THAT'S DOABLE NOW BASED ON OUR EXPERT'S REPORT AS ALWAYS, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR COOPERATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

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THANK YOU, MR. YANG.

DID, DID ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS AGENDA ITEM ONE, APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 18TH MEETING.

REVIEW THE MINUTES, PLEASE.

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? OKAY.

UH, IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED, WE WILL START UNDER NEW BUSINESS AND COME BACK TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

SO THE NEXT ITEM IS THREE, A THE PRESENTATION FROM THE CITY TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENTS.

WELCOME EVERYONE.

HEY, THANKS, YOU.

AND I'LL JUST GIVE A BRIEF INTRODUCTION AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO, UM, COLD KITTEN AND NICK KINCADE.

UM, SO YES, THIS WAS A REQUEST THAT CAME FROM Y'ALL, UM, TO KIND OF LEARN MORE ABOUT CITY'S TRANSPORTATION FEATURES AND THE CITY'S ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES.

UM, SO FOLKS IN OUR WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT, UH, PUT TOGETHER A MAP THAT THEY'LL, THEY'LL WALK THROUGH, UM, THAT SHOWS BOTH OF THOSE THINGS TO, UH, JUST TO PROVIDE BASELINE INFORMATION FOR Y'ALL AND YOUR WORK.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COLE.

AND THEN, UM, NICK VERY QUICKLY, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE TO NOTE THAT BOTH ARE NOW CO-HOSTS OF THE MEETING, SO THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHARE THEIR SCREEN.

SHOULD THERE BE A PRESENTATION THAT NEEDS TO BE SHOWN? GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

HEY, WITH THAT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

UH, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

I'M COLE KITTEN, I'M A DIVISION MANAGER IN OUR AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

I OVERSEE OUR LONG RANGE PLANNING AND OUR EFFORT TO DEVELOP THE CITY'S LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN.

UM, SO PART OF, PART OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOW TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY, UM, FROM THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHARE, UM, THE ADOPTED MAP IN THE CHAT FOR EVERYONE, UM, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SEE, UM, BUT LET ME GO AHEAD AND START SHARING MY SCREEN.

SO, UM, SO GET STARTED.

THIS WAS THE MAP THAT I SHARED, UM, IN THE CHAT.

UH, THIS IS THE BASIS OF THE INFORMATION THAT'S, UM, IN THIS ONLINE MAP THAT OUR, OUR WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT PUT TOGETHER.

UM, THAT'S GOING TO SHOW, UM, UH, UH, ADDITIONAL LAYERS, UM, BEYOND WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS JUST ROADS.

SO WITHIN THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN, UM, THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO DESIGNATE CERTAIN ROADWAYS, UM, OF, UH, DIFFERENT LEVELS.

SO LEVELS OF CLASSIFICATION, UM, THAT, UH, DETERMINE, UH, THEIR FUNCTION.

UM, SO IT'S BASICALLY A SCALE OF ONE TO FIVE WITH ONE BEING, UH, LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET UP TO FIVE BEING, UM, HIGHWAYS AND FREEWAYS.

SO, UM, TAKING THIS MAP, UM, THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT, UM, INCORPORATED THEM INTO THIS MAP, WHICH, UM, WHEN YOU START OUT AT THIS HIGH LEVEL, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, IN THE BLACK LINES ARE OUR HIGHWAYS AND FREEWAYS, AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR MAJOR ROADWAYS.

UM, THOSE, THOSE WOULD BE MORE ASSOCIATED IN OUR OTHER MAP AS LEVEL FIVES AND LEVEL FOUR STREETS.

UM, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THIS IS REALLY THAT, UM, UH, UH, BACKBONE OF THE ROADWAY NETWORK, UM, STARTING WITH OUR HIGHWAYS AND FREEWAYS, AND THEN THE, THE MORE MAJOR ROADWAYS, UM, THAT PROVIDE LONGER DISTANCE, UM, TRIPS INTO, UM, AND OUT OF AND ACROSS, UH, AUSTIN.

SO AS YOU ZOOM IN, UM, CLOSER IN THE MAP, UM, THE NEXT LEVEL OF ROADWAYS START TO APPEAR

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AND WITHIN THE MAP, UM, THOSE WILL BE DESCRIBED AS A MINOR ROADS AND, UH, LOCAL ROADS.

AND THEY'RE NOT SHOWING UP RIGHT NOW, MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S JUST TAKING A WHILE TO LOAD.

OKAY, NOW I CAN SEE THEM START TO COME IN.

SO, UM, THE IDEA HERE, UH, IN, IN TRYING TO ANSWER TO, UM, THE REQUESTS OF, OF IDENTIFYING PHYSICAL BOUNDARIES AS A POTENTIAL, UM, WAY OF IDENTIFYING, UM, UH, REDISTRICTING, UM, THESE TWO LAYERS REALLY DIFFERENTIATE WHAT ARE, ARE CONSIDERED MAJOR ROADWAYS, UM, VERSUS MINOR ROADWAYS.

AND, UM, THE MAJOR ROADWAYS MAY BE MORE, UM, CONSIDERED MORE OF A, UH, A DIVIDER, A DIVIDING LINE, UM, WHETHER IT BE BECAUSE THERE ARE SIX TRAVEL LANES OR MORE, UM, COMPARED TO WHAT'S, WHAT'S MORE OF A MINOR, UH, ROADWAY THAT MAY BE, UM, NOT A DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN COMMUNITIES, UM, BUT MORE OF, UH, UH, SERVING AS A BACKBONE TO, UH, UH, TRAVEL.

SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

UM, I BELIEVE I CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, BUT, UH, GENERALLY I BELIEVE, UM, WE JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PUT THESE TOOLS TOGETHER, UM, FOR, FOR Y'ALL'S USE.

UM, AND, UM, AND, AND THAT'S IT.

THANKS SO MUCH.

COLE, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR COLE KRISHA CAMPBELL? THANK YOU.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY ASK, ARE WE ALL GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT GIS, UM, SOFTWARE, UM, STUFF WE CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE, OR WE CAN MAKE THE BASE LAYERS AVAILABLE TO Y'ALL'S MAPPING CONSULTANT, WHATEVER IS PREFERABLE.

OKAY.

UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I DUNNO, WHAT IF THERE ARE RULES AGAINST SPECIFIC PEOPLE RECEIVING ANYTHING? I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

UM, I WORK A LITTLE BIT WITH GIS.

UM, SO IT'D BE NICE.

WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT IF I COULD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS, LIKE HOW THESE BOUNDARIES ARE USED IN OTHER WAYS WITH REGARD TO LIKE CITY BUSINESS.

I MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, IN A CITY, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT IS FUNDING FOR ROADS GOING TO BE DIFFERENTIATED BECAUSE OF LIKE, WHICH DISTRICT IT'S IN OR LIKE IN WHAT OTHER MANNER ARE THESE ROADS AND THESE BOUNDARIES UTILIZED, UM, BY THE CITY, UM, TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN, UH, GROUPS OR PARTS OF THE CITY.

I DON'T KNOW.

IS THAT MAKE SENSE? IS THAT A GOOD ENOUGH CONTEXT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH.

AND I CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE INSIGHT, UM, AT LEAST FROM ANOTHER EFFORT, UH, WHICH IS CALLED THE STREET IMPACT FEE.

THE CITY ADOPTED AN IMPACT FEE IN DECEMBER OF 2020, AND, UM, WITHIN THE FEE THERE'S 17 SERVICE AREAS, UM, THAT HAD, UM, SPECIFIC LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS, UM, EACH SERVICER AND IT HAD TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE AND THE BOUNDARIES, UM, COULD BE MADE UP OF, OF ANY, UM, PHYSICAL, UM, FOR THE STUDENT PURPOSES.

A LOT OF THE MAJOR CORRIDORS ENDED UP BEING THOSE BOUNDARY LINES BECAUSE MULTIPLE SERVICE

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AREAS COULD ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTE THEIR FEES, UM, TO THAT SINGLE ROADWAY IF IT HAD.

SO THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO THE STREET IMPACT FEE.

UM, BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE ANY RELATION TO THE COUNCIL DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

THANK YOU.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME COLE KITTEN.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

SHALL WE MOVE ON TO, UM, THE NEXT PRESENTATION? THIS IS ITEM THREE B THE PRESENTATION FROM THE CITY WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT AND MATT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO DO AN INTRODUCTION HERE AS WELL, OR IF WE JUST WANT TO JUMP RIGHT IN.

OH YEAH.

THANKS.

UH, NICK AND KATE FROM THE CITY'S WATER PROTECTION DEPARTMENT.

SO GO AHEAD, NICK.

HEY, EVERYONE.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT.

UM, JUST LIKE MATT SAID, MY NAME IS NICK AND KATE.

I'M A PLANNER IN THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT.

UM, AND I'M HERE TO JUST GIVE A PRETTY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES THAT WE USE IN OUR WORK AND THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT.

UH, AND THOSE ARE LAKES, RIVERS, CREEKS, AND WATERSHEDS.

AND THEN I'M ALSO AVAILABLE, AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.

UM, LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN.

SO I'M CURRENTLY KIND OF SAME MAP WE WERE LOOKING AT WITH COLE, BUT ZOOM BACK OUT.

UM, AND SO CURRENTLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE CITY AND REALLY AT THIS SCALE, YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE LARGEST AND MOST, PROBABLY MOST FAMILIAR WATER BODIES LAKE, TRAVIS LAKE, AUSTIN, AND LADY BIRD LAKE ARE ALL LOCATED ALONG THE MAIN STEM OF THE COLORADO RIVER, WHICH ROUGHLY DIVIDES THE CITY IN HALF.

UH, WALTER ALONG THE LAKE IS LOCATED IN THE NORTH EASTERN PART OF THE CITY, BUT THAT ALSO DRAINS TO THE COLORADO RIVER FOR EACH LAKE.

THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DEFINES THE SHORELINES AS A SPECIFIC CONTOUR LINE THAT CORRESPONDS WITH THE OPERATING LEVEL OF THE LAKE, AND THEN WATERSHED PROTECTION STAFF USES THAT CONTOUR TO GENERATE THE BOUNDARIES THAT YOU'RE BASICALLY SEEING MAPS RIGHT NOW.

UM, I'VE SORT OF PRE-SET UP SOME TABS TO HOPEFULLY AVOID LOADING PAINS.

UM, BUT CAN EVERYONE SEE THAT CHANGE? YES.

GREAT.

SO I WAS ZOOMED IN A BIT, AND SO NOW YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE NETWORK OF CREEKS THAT EXTENDS THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN BLUE, AND THEN THE CORRESPONDING WATERSHEDS IN ORANGE CREEPS ARE PROBABLY MORE THE FEATURE THAT EVERYONE IS MORE FAMILIAR WITH.

SO I'LL TALK ABOUT THEM FIRST.

UH, THERE'S ROUGHLY 850 MILES OF CREEKS IN OUR JURISDICTION.

THE MAP KIND OF MAKES IT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME SIZE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SIZES OF CREEKS, EVEN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN ONE CREEK SYSTEM, THE CRITIC TENDS TO BE A LOT LARGER AT ITS MOUTH VERSUS ITS HEADWATERS.

AND SO AS YOU KIND OF GET AWAY FROM THE COLORADO RIVER CREEKS GET SMALLER.

UM, AND SO WE MAP AND WE CLASSIFY THE CREEKS BASED ON THE AREA OF LAND THAT DRAINS TO THEM.

WE CATEGORIZE THREE MAIN CATEGORIES.

AND SO THOSE ARE 64 ACRES, 320 ACRES AND 640 ACRES.

CURRENTLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE CREEKS WITH MORE THAN 64 ACRES OF DRAINAGE AREA, WHICH IS A FAIRLY HIGH RESOLUTION.

UM, IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN LIKE FOCUSING IN ON THE LARGER CREEK SECTIONS, IT'S REALLY EASY TO FILTER THIS DATA BASED ON THAT DRAINAGE AREA SIZE.

AND, UM, BASICALLY WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS SORT OF REDUCED THE NUMBER OF SIDE BRANCHES AND THE EXTENT TO WHICH THIS CREEK KIND OF EXTEND THE, TO THE HEADWATERS OF THE WATERSHED.

UM, AND THEN TO MAP THE CREEKS, WE USE LIDAR ELEVATION DATA AND THEN MODELING SOFTWARE TO TYPICALLY FIND THE LOWEST ELEVATION FLOW PATH THAT WIRE WILL FOLLOW OVER THE GROUND.

UM, AND SO THEN JUST LASTLY, I'M GOING TO TALK A BIT ABOUT WATERSHEDS.

SO AGAIN, I'VE ZOOMED IN A BIT MORE, UH, AND SO HERE YOU SEE WATERSHEDS MAP ORANGE AND A WATERSHED ASSEMBLY, THE AREA OF LAND THAT DRAINS TO A CREEK SYSTEM.

AND SO HERE, WE'RE LOOKING JUST SOUTH OF LADYBIRD LAKE, AND THERE'S A SERIES OF WATERSHEDS THAT ARE SORT OF

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BOUNDED BY THE LAKE TO THE NORTH AND TO 90 TO THE SOUTH.

AND SO HERE, YOU'VE GOT THE LESS BOLDEN CREEK WATERSHED IN ORANGE, AND THEN IN THE MIDDLE IN BLUE IS ACTUALLY WEST BOULDIN CREEK, SIMILARLY WITH EAST BOULDIN CREEK AND BLEND CREEK AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO CREEKS, WE USE EXACT SAME LIDAR ELEVATION DATA AND SOMEWHERE MODELING TOOLS TO BASICALLY MAP THE OUTER BOUNDARIES OF THOSE CREEK DRAINAGE AREAS.

UH, THERE'S 16 WATERSHEDS THAT OVERLAP WITH THE CITY'S FULL, UNLIMITED PURPOSE JURISDICTIONS.

OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE SUPER IMPORTANT BOUNDARIES FOR THE WORK THAT WE DO IN THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT, OFTEN IN PRACTICE.

UM, THE DIVIDING LINES BETWEEN THE WATERSHEDS ARE LESS RECOGNIZED ON THE GROUND COMPARED TO A CREEK OR RIVER OR A LAKE.

UH, ONE EXCEPTION THAT I'LL NOTE QUICKLY, IF I CAN GET THERE, UH, IS THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN TRAVIS AND WILLIAMSON COUNTIES ACTUALLY DOES FOLLOW THE WATERSHED BOUNDARIES.

THAT WAS THE ONE EXAMPLE OF THE POLITICAL BOUNDARY WE COULD FIND IN THE REGION THAT FOLLOWED WATERSHEDS AND NOT CREEKS AND RIVERS.

UM, BUT YEAH, REALLY, OTHER THAN THAT, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE.

AND, UM, LIKE WE SAID EARLIER, WE CAN MAKE THIS MAP AVAILABLE TO Y'ALL TO LOOK AT IN YOUR OWN OWN TIME.

UM, AND SO LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LATER ON TOO.

THANK YOU, NICK.

WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER NE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THESE MAPS.

UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT TRACKS, WHAT AREAS ARE MORE PRONE TO FLOODING? I CAN IMAGINE THAT, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN COMMUNITIES MIGHT HAVE THAT KIND OF CONCERN, A SHARED CONCERN AMONG CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS.

YEAH.

UM, SO WE DO, UM, MAP ALL OF OUR FLOOD PLAINS AND THEN WITHIN EACH WATERSHED, THOSE FLOODPLAIN BOUNDARIES VARY.

IF YOU'LL GIVE ME JUST A SECOND, I CAN PUT THOSE, UM, UP ON THE SCREEN REAL QUICK.

AND WHEN YOU SAY YOU CAN SHARE ALL THESE MAPS WITH US, LIKE, ARE YOUR MAPS ARE DIFFERENT FROM KOHL'S AND THIS FLOODPLAIN MAP IS DIFFERENT FROM LIKE, THESE ARE, UM, EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE.

THEY, THESE ARE ALL DIFFERENT MAPS.

ARE THEY DIFFERENT FILTERS ON THE SAME MAP? SO, UM, COLE AND I, WE BASICALLY, THE CITY MAINTAINS A HUGE VARIETY OF MAPPING LAYERS THAT THEN WE CAN KIND OF USE TO CREATE INDIVIDUAL MAPS AS NEEDED.

AND SO FOR THIS PRESENTATION, COLE AND I CREATED THIS ONE WEB MAP THAT IS A COMBINATION OF THE ROADS.

AND THEN THOSE MAIN ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES, I JUST COVERED ALL OF THIS DATA IS PUBLIC IT'S ON OUR OPEN DATA PORTAL.

THERE'S A TON OF OTHER STUFF THERE AS WELL.

UM, WE JUST KIND OF FOCUSED IN PRIMARILY ON THE THINGS THAT SEEMED BOUNDARY, LIKE I GUESS.

UM, BUT YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A PRETTY BIG RABBIT HOLE YOU COULD GO ON WITH THE DIFFERENT MAPPING DATA.

UM, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR SECOND QUESTION? YES.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, SO HERE ON THE SCREEN, I'VE MAPPED OUR FLOOD PLANS AND THESE ARE JUST THE RIGHT, THE A HUNDRED YEAR REGULATORY FLOODPLAIN BOUNDARY.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE JUST LIKE BY, BY LOOKING, UM, WATER, THE FLOODPLAINS IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE CITY DO TEND TO BE MUCH LARGER THAN THE FLOODPLAINS IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE CITY.

AND THAT'S PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES IN THE PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT THERE.

SO EASTERN AUSTIN IS MUCH FLATTER.

AND SO THE WATER JUST TENDS TO SPREAD OUT MORE WHERE WESTERN AUSTIN, YOU HAVE THE BALCONIES ESCARPMENT AND JUST CANYONS AND VERY HIGH ELEVATIONS.

AND THOSE CREEKS TEND TO BE MUCH MORE BOUNDED BY THEIR, UH, DEEPER CHANNELS.

UM, SO YEAH, THERE ARE SOME, SOME DIFFERENCES BETWEEN EAST AND WEST AUSTIN.

I CAN THROW UP THIS OTHER, UM, WE DID.

UM, SO BASICALLY I APOLOGIZE IF I'M GOING TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS HERE, BUT AUSTIN DOES ON THE

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BOUNDARY OF TWO, UM, ECO REGIONS.

UM, AND IN THE EAST YEAR WE HAVE BLACK LAND INQUIRY IN GREEN, BIGGER FLOODPLAINS IN THE WEST.

WE HAVE, UM, THE EDWARDS PLATEAU, MUCH HIGHER ELEVATIONS, SMALLER FLOODPLAINS.

THANKS SO MUCH, NICK.

I HAVE ONE QUESTION SINCE YOU MENTIONED THAT UPPER BOUNDARY OF TRAVIS COUNTY, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT AS TO WHY YOU WOULD FOLLOW A WATERSHED BOUNDARY FOR, UH, POLITICAL DISTRICTS? I'M NOT SURE.

AND I, SO I COULD DO SOME MORE RESEARCH ON THAT.

UM, ASKING AROUND THE DEPARTMENT, UH, WATERSHED BOUNDARIES DO TEND TO BE HIGH POINTS AND, YOU KNOW, SO IT COULD JUST BE A GEOLOGIC FEATURE THAT IS EASY TO FOLLOW ON A MAP LIKE CONTOUR LINE WISE.

INTERESTING.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER HARDEN ALSO HAS A QUESTION.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, MY QUESTION IS OTHER THAN THE CREEKS RIVERS SPRAINS WATERSHEDS, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, NATURAL ELEMENTAL, UH, FEATURES BOUNDARIES THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT MAY FACTOR IN TO CREATING A NATURAL BOUNDARIES SUCH AS WOULD IT FIT KITS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? UM, SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF BOUNDARIES WE COULD POTENTIALLY TALK ABOUT, UM, ONE, I WILL SHOW HERE THAT WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE, UM, IS THE EDWARDS AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE.

SO THIS IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT REGULATORY BOUNDARY FOR US.

UM, THE, THE RECHARGE ZONE, UM, HAS A PRETTY NUANCED DEFINITION, BUT IT'S BASICALLY THE AREA OF THE AQUIFER THAT IS AT THE SURFACE OF WHERE WATER THAT FLOWS ACROSS THIS AND RED, UM, IS BASICALLY ABLE TO DIRECTLY INFILTRATE INTO THE AQUIFER THROUGH POROUS, LIMESTONE, SINKHOLES, CAVES, THAT SORT OF THING.

AND SO REGULATORILY, WE HAVE A HIGHER STANDARD FOR RUNOFF IN THESE AREAS.

UM, AGAIN, LIKE IT'S OFTEN DIFFICULT TO RECOGNIZE THESE BOUNDARIES ON THE GROUND AND WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT NOT BE OBVIOUS TO PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS BOUNDARY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF DATA, YOU KNOW, AND I WILL MAYBE DEFER TO MATT ON COORDINATING THOSE, BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF DATA THAT AREN'T BOUNDARY ORIENTED.

RIGHT.

WE DO HAVE INFORMATION ON GROUND COVER AND IMPERVIOUS COVER AND, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL.

UM, BUT FOR THIS PRESENTATION, WE DID KIND OF FOCUS ON STUFF THAT SEEMED MORE LIKE A DIVIDING LINE VERSUS, UM, IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO MAYBE CONSIDER WHILE YOU'RE DRAWING THOSE BOUNDARIES.

AND THAT, UM, I BELIEVE RAILROAD, UM, RAILROAD RIGHT OF IS ALSO BEEN USED AS A BOUNDARY LINE.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT CURRENTLY IS AND BETWEEN DISTRICT SEVEN AND SIX, AND THAT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE MAPS THAT WE DEVELOPED.

THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

THANK YOU.

CALL A COMMISSIONER.

I'M NOT SURE HOW RELEVANT THIS MIGHT BE, BUT I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS, UM, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE THAT LIVES IN AUSTIN.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A QUESTION FOR MR. KITTEN.

UM, I KNOW YOUR PRESENTATION IS OVER, BUT IS THERE A LAYER OF THE MAP THAT SHOWS TRAFFIC, UH, CONGESTION? SO THAT'S NOT INCLUDED THAT DATASET.

UM, YOU COULD, IT'S IT'S, UM, IN A SENSE IN FLIED, BY VIRTUE OF THE CAPACITY THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING, UM, THERE'S THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TRAVEL LANES ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THE NETWORK.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHETHER IT'S TWO LANES, FOUR LANES

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OR SIX LANES.

UM, BUT NO, THAT DATA SET ITSELF, DOESN'T IT DOESN'T SAY WHETHER ONE SIX LANE, UM, MAJOR ROAD WAS, UH, MORE, UH, VOLUME THAN THE OTHER SIX LANE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ONE LAST QUESTION.

UM, OR YOU'RE AWARE OF ANYONE IN THE CITY DEPARTMENTS WHO CAN PROVIDE MAPS OF NATURAL GREEN SPACES, PARTS GREEN BELTS AS EXIST IN THIS CITY.

WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE THAT, UM, PARKS, GREENBELTS.

UM, WE HAVE, UH, OUR WATER QUALITY PROTECTION LANDS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AS WELL.

UM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING Y'ALL WANT TO ADD TO THAT LIST, MAYBE CHECK IN WITH MATT AND WE'LL ADD, TRY TO ADD THOSE LAYERS TO THIS MAP SO THAT Y'ALL CAN CHECK IT ALL OUT AS TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.

THANK YOU.

I WAS ACTUALLY WONDERING THAT MYSELF COMMISSIONER HARDEN.

SO THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

DO WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE LET THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE GO? OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CALL KITTEN AND NEXT KINCAID.

UM, HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THREE C A PRESENTATION FROM AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL, PRESIDENT JUSTIN IRVING.

I SEE YOU.

AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE, SIR.

THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.

YEAH, THANKS FOR HAVING ME OUT.

UM, REALLY, UH, HONORED TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

UM, WHEN I FIRST GOTTEN INVOLVED WITH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, KINDS OF THINGS, TEN ONE WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DREW ME IN IT WAS THE, ONE OF THE ORIGINAL ISSUES THAT I WAS ATTRACTED TO ABOUT WHERE THE CITY WAS HEADED.

SO, UM, MADAM CHAIR AND, UH, COMMISSIONERS.

UM, GREAT HONOR TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.

UM, YEAH, THE AMC WAS ACTUALLY A BIG PART OF THE 10.

ONE WAS A BIG PART OF THE REASON THAT I JOINED THE ANSI.

ACTUALLY WE WERE, UM, AT THAT TIME, UH, HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH TRYING TO CON CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT WORD POLITICS WAS NOT A REAL THING TO WORRY ABOUT IN AUSTIN AND THAT NEIGHBORHOODS AND ASSOCIATIONS LIKE RICA AND, UH, THE, THE, THE, UH, OTHER POWERS THAT BE, COULD ALL GET ALONG IF MAPS FOR DRAWN FAIRLY AND EQUITABLY.

SO LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN AND I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ANSTEY.

SO YEAH, ANSI WAS ACTUALLY, UH, STARTED IN 1973 AND IT WAS THE PASSION PROJECT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD IN A NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER, UM, NAMED JOANNE BAR.

AND LET ME GET THE PRESENTATION MODE STARTED.

YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT STARTED ANC AND WHY IT WAS STARTED.

SO, UH, AN INTERESTING QUESTION ABOUT GREEN SPACE AND PARKS, YOU KNOW, TH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUILD COMMUNITIES AROUND CERTAIN FEATURES OF THINGS LIKE SCHOOLS AND PARKS ARE A REAL PART OF HOW PEOPLE KIND OF ORGANICALLY COME TOGETHER.

AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE FIRST REAL ISSUE THAT STARTED ANC WAS A DISPUTE OVER WHETHER OR NOT TO BUILD A PRIVATE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE SOME PUBLIC LAND THAT WAS DEDICATED TO A PARK AND PRIORITIZE IT FOR PROFIT.

AND THAT WAS THE FIRST, UH, UNITING ISSUE THAT, THAT GENERATED THE ANC.

AND, UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT JOANNE BARTS DID.

UM, AND SHE WANTED THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS COUNCIL TO BE BASICALLY WHAT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS TO BUSINESS IN AUSTIN, TO PROVIDE SOME ADVOCACY AND BUILD COMMUNITY AROUND, UH, WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOW TO, TO, UH, DEFEND NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, INITIATIVES AND NEIGHBORHOOD PERSPECTIVES AGAINST MOSTLY BUSINESS, UM, COMPETING INTERESTS IN BUSINESS.

SO WE DO A LOT OF ADVOCACY ON THAT LEVEL.

UH, WE ARE MOSTLY AN EDUCATIONAL, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT WE PROVIDE A TON OF CIVIC EDUCATION.

MANY OF THE PEOPLE AT ANC HAVE BEEN

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AT ANC AND IN WORKING IN CITY, UH, WITH THE CITY AND, UH, AGAINST THE CITY, IN SOME CASES FOR, YOU KNOW, 40 YEARS, UM, WE DO QUITE A BIT OF POLICY EDUCATION AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF POLICY ANALYSIS, A TON OF LAND USE EDUCATION, AND REALLY TRYING TO, TO THREAD THE NEEDLE BETWEEN, UM, SMART AND, UM, RESPONSIBLE GROWTH AND OUT OF CONTROL GROWTH, UH, CONNECTING COUNCIL WITH NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO TRY TO BUILD BRIDGES BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS, EVEN COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, UM, HAVE POLICY PERSPECTIVES THAN THE ANC WITH THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY REPRESENT, WHETHER THEY'RE, UM, ALIGNED IN THEIR VALUES OR NOT.

UM, WE'VE BEEN A CHAMPION OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, UH, SINCE THE FOUNDING OF MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN ENC WORK, HUGE PART OF THE SAVE OUR SPRINGS ALLIANCE OR SUPPORTED, UM, THINGS LIKE BARTON SPRINGS, UH, WAY BACK IN THE EIGHTIES.

AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE, UH, COMMISSION IS EQUITY AND POLITICAL EQUITY.

UM, MANY NEIGHBORHOODS DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO COMPETE WITH THE VESTED INTERESTS, THAT FUND CAMPAIGNS THAT, UM, THAT, UH, PROVIDE THE CAPITAL TO START POLICY INITIATIVES AND FREQUENTLY THEY'RE LEFT KIND OF ON THEIR OWN, UM, WITHOUT, UH, RESOURCES TO, UH, NEGOTIATE BETTER SETS OF CIRCUMSTANCES FOR THEMSELVES, AND THEY CAN GET FAIRLY PUSHED AROUND.

SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR MANTRA IS STRENGTH THROUGH UNITY AND THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS COUNCIL WOULD NOT ULTIMATELY EXIST WITHOUT A, UH, YOU KNOW, LARGE GROUNDSWELL OF ACTIVE PEOPLE WHO ARE, UH, CONTINUOUSLY ASKING, UH, THE CITY WHAT'S NEXT.

THE WAY THAT THEY NC IS ORGANIZED IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU PROBABLY SEE, UH, SOME SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE DISTRICT MAP AND THIS MAP, THIS MAP WAS ACTUALLY DRAWN QUITE A LONG TIME AGO, UM, FAR BEFORE THE DISTRICT MAPS WERE EVEN BEING CONSIDERED.

UM, BUT IT, IT MIRRORS SOME OF THOSE, UH, THOSE SAME ASPECTS.

CAUSE WE DID TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS ADEQUATE AND EQUAL REPRESENTATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UM, AND THAT NO ONE DISTRICT, UH, WOULD ESSENTIALLY CONTROL THE ANC.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT ALL OF THE SECTOR REPRESENTATIVES ARE ACTUALLY RESIDENTS OF THOSE, UH, OF THOSE AREAS.

ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT, UM, W UH, THE, THE COMMISSION SENT ME WAS, UH, DOES THE ANC, UH, ALLOW RENTERS, WHICH, UM, WAS A STRANGE QUESTION FOR ME.

I WAS A RENTER WHEN I JOINED THE ANC.

UH, I WAS ACTUALLY A RENTER WHEN I WAS ON, WHEN I DID MY FIRST, UH, YOU KNOW, YEAR ON THE EXECUTIVE COUNCIL.

AND WE HAVE, UH, QUITE A LOT OF RENTERS.

WE ACTUALLY ADVOCATE THAT, UM, REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE SENT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS THAT, THAT BUILD ANC THAT COMPRISE AND SEE HAVING THEIR BYLAWS, UH, RESERVED SEATS FOR RENTERS.

UM, WE ASKED THAT THEY ACTIVELY ENGAGE THEM AND AS AUSTIN BECOMES A PRINTER MAJORITY, UH, YOU KNOW, LED AND BUILT COMMUNITY, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UH, RENTERS, REGARDLESS OF HOW OFTEN THEY'RE CHANGING RESIDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS, THE SAME WAY THAT A HOMEOWNER WOULD.

UM, SO WE DO OUR BEST TO ATTEND TO THAT.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE, UM, QUITE A LOT OF HEADWINDS FOR FOLKS THAT RENT IN TERMS OF LONG-TERM STABILITY AND JOINING COMMUNITIES FOR, YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS IS USUALLY WHAT IT TAKES TO ACTUALLY BECOME KIND OF GROUNDED IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, POLITICAL PICK A DELOS.

UM, I'M SURE MANY OF YOU CAN ATTEST IF YOU'VE TRIED TO, TO, TO JOIN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THAT THEY CAN BE A LITTLE STRANGE SOMETIMES.

SO REALLY MOST OF OUR PERSPECTIVE ABOUT WHAT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD COMES FROM THE CITY'S OWN DESIGNATION OF WHAT A NEIGHBORHOOD IS.

AND SO WHILE AT ANC, WE DO TEND TO THINK OF IT MORE AS AN ORGANIC FORMATION OF PEOPLE IN AN ADDED A GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT HAS, UM, CONSISTENT, UH, PERSPECTIVE ON THE LANDMARKS AND THINGS AROUND THEM.

UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEIR SCHOOLS OR THEIR PARKS OR THE STREET THAT RUNS THROUGH THEIR, THEIR, THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, THE WAY THAT THE CITY HAS ACTUALLY ORGANIZED NEIGHBORHOODS IS

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SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

PRETTY MUCH ANYONE CAN ESTABLISH A NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARY AND CALL THEMSELVES A NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, YOU CAN GO TO THE COMMUNITY REGISTRY AND DO THAT.

UM, YOU CAN, UH, REPRESENT A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS AND STILL BE CALLED A, UH, A NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE AGENCY.

UM, WE ACTUALLY REQUIRE THAT YOU HAVE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND REGULAR MEETINGS, UM, AND THAT YOU ARE, UH, ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSEDLY REPRESENTING.

THE CITY DOESN'T REALLY REQUIRE THAT THOUGH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING PROCESS THAT WAS CREATED IN THE NINETIES, THE CITY SAID, WELL, THERE ARE A CORE NUMBER OF, OF, AND REMEMBER THESE MAPS WERE DRAWN IN THE NINETIES, A LOT'S HAPPENED SINCE THEN.

THERE WERE CORE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT COULD COME TOGETHER AND THREES OR FOURS OR FIVES TO MAKE UP THESE PLANNING AREAS.

AND THE CITY CREATED THESE KINDS OF SUPER, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS MADE UP OF, UM, SMALLER NEIGHBORHOODS TO DO ACTUAL PLANNING PROCESS.

AND SO A LOT OF THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD POLITICS THAT I THINK PEOPLE SEE ARE, YOU KNOW, A J GENESIS HERE IN THIS PROCESS.

SO EACH OF THESE AREAS ACTUALLY HAVE A QUASI GOVERNMENTAL, UM, PLANNING, UH, UM, COMMISSION KIND OF, UM, THE, THE, THE WORD FOR THAT IS ESCAPING ME, BUT THEY MAKE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS.

THEY, UH, THEY PLAN FOR LAND USE AND THE CITY RECOGNIZES THOSE FORMALLY AS THE FLOMS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAPS.

UM, THERE ARE HUGE SETBACKS TO LOOKING AT NEIGHBORHOODS JUST THROUGH THIS LENS, THOUGH, OF COURSE IT COMPLETELY NEGLECT, UH, THE VAST MAJORITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 70% OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN AUSTIN PROBABLY DO NOT LIVE IN, UM, A PLANNED, YOU KNOW, AN AREA THAT'S DONE PLANNING.

UM, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT MANY OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE MUCH MORE ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY PROCESS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UM, IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

AND SO FREQUENTLY THEY HAVE, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPPER HAND ON GETTING TO A PLANNING COMMISSION OR A, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH, UM, POLICY IN HAND.

SO WHY DOES THAT MATTER? UM, WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO KEEP THESE NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER? I THINK WAS THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I GOT FROM THE COMMISSION? WELL, THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS TO THINK ABOUT THIS ONE, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, ORGANICALLY FORM AND THEY'RE PART OF A COHESIVE, UH, COMMUNITY THAT'S, I THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE REAL THAN AN ARBITRARY BOUNDARY THOUGH.

A THEORIAL A THEORIAL AS IT COULD BE, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE YET TO KIND OF COALESCE IN THE SAME WAY THAT MANY OF THESE COORDINATED HOODS FAB.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT, ESPECIALLY FOR THE CORE NEIGHBORHOODS, IF YOU DECIDE TO SPLIT THEM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IMBALANCE OF POWER AND, AND EQUITY ISSUES THAT COULD CAUSE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, MANY OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE, UM, A HUGE ADVANTAGE TO AREAS THAT ARE LESS ESTABLISHED AND LESS, UH, UNITED IN THEIR ABILITY TO TAKE ACTION, SPLITTING THEM UP WILL FREQUENTLY CREATE A SITUATION WHERE THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO, YOU KNOW, MORE COUNCIL MEMBER ATTENTION.

SO I HOPE THAT THE COMMISSION CAN KEEP AN EYE ON THE EQUITY THAT COMES FROM, UM, PAIRING THESE ESTABLISHED AREAS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY WEALTHIER AREAS, UH, EQUITABLY.

SO THEY DON'T ROUND OUT AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE THE SAME RESOURCES OR HAVE HAD AS LONG TO DEVELOP THEIR COMMUNITIES.

UM, I THINK WHEN I GOT ASKED TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A RECONNECT WITH MYSELF BACK IN 2013 WHEN I STARTED AT ANC AND I KIND OF WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE OLD ARTICLES THAT WERE PUBLISHED THEN.

AND ONE OF OUR OLD PRESIDENTS, UH, STEVE OLIMAN, UH, SAID SOMETHING IN THE CHRONICLE THAT ACTUALLY RESONATED WITH ME.

THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE SAYING THAT TEN ONE WAS PROBABLY A BAD IDEA AND THAT IT WOULD IN, YOU KNOW, CREATE WARD POLITICS, WHICH ALWAYS SOUNDED LIKE A BIT OF A DOG WHISTLE TO ME.

UM, AND STEVE REALLY WAS STRUCK BY THE DIVERSITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HE HAD TO DRIVE THROUGH.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BEFORE COVID, WHEN I WAS VISITING NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS REGULARLY, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU DRIVE ACROSS AUSTIN AND IT IS A VERY DIVERSE PLACE.

UM,

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IT HAS A LOT OF PERSPECTIVE DIFFERENCES DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE AND WHO YOU ARE TALKING TO.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THIS LAST PART OF IT, UH, I WAS PERSONALLY HIT BY HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS TO ENSURE THAT NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE A VOICE IN POLITICS IN AUSTIN.

UM, THAT'S ABOUT AS CLOSE TO GROUND ROOTS GRASSROOTS, AS I THINK YOU GET RIGHT NOW, UM, IS THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, MANY WHICH THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS COUNCIL, UH, DOES NOT SERVE ARE STILL NEED TO BE REPRESENTED, YOU KNOW, IN, IN ANOTHER ASSOCIATION OR, UH, BEING ABLE TO BE RECOGNIZED EASILY BY THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER AND NOT HAVE TO COMPETE FOR THAT ATTENTION WITH OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO, UM, YOU HAVE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT WORK TO DO THERE, TO ESTABLISH, YOU KNOW, UH, POLITICAL EQUITY ACROSS THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

UH, DO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAVE THEIR OWN BOUNDARY MAPS WAS A QUESTION THAT YOU GUYS SENT ME AND YES, UH, THEY DO.

THE CITY ACTUALLY MAINTAINS ALL OF THE, UH, MAPS THAT NEIGHBORHOODS SUBMIT AND UNDERSTAND THAT.

UH, I THINK THERE ARE, THERE ARE OVER 300 OF THEM.

THERE PROBABLY AREN'T 300 ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT NOW IN AUSTIN AT THE ANC WE HAVE AROUND 50 ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING AT ANCY.

THAT'S BEEN AS HIGH AS 85 IN THE PAST.

AND THAT PROBABLY REPRESENTS NOW PEAK OF, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE UNDER 200,000 HOUSEHOLDS.

BUT, UM, THE WAY THAT THE CITY DEFINES A NEIGHBORHOOD IS LIKE I SAID, VERY LOOSE AND THE WAY THAT CITY, THAT NEIGHBORHOODS REPORT THEIR BOUNDARIES AND THEIR, UH, THEIR HOUSEHOLD COMPOSITION IS, UM, FAIRLY LOOSE.

SO THESE ARE PRETTY HIGH LEVEL ESTIMATES, UH, AND THEY DO GET TO DECLARE THEIR OWN BOUNDARIES, WHICH CAN OVERLAP WITH OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO YOU HAVE, YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR WORK CUT OUT FOR YOU A LITTLE BIT IN THAT PROCESS.

UM, I HOPE I ANSWERED ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS SENT AND, UH, WOULD BE HAPPY TO, TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

AND JUSTIN, I'M SURE WE HAVE PLENTY OF QUESTIONS.

UM, I HAVE A COUPLE, BUT I'M GOING TO LET EVERYONE ELSE CHART.

AND, UM, I SEE A GENTLEMAN'S HAND, UH, SIR, THIS IS, THESE ARE QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO ASK MR. IRVING AT TIME.

MY APOLOGIES.

WELL, I WAS ASKED BY, UH, JUSTIN TO, UH, TO JOIN THIS CONVERSATION AS A MEMBER OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE VACANCY.

AND SO JUSTIN IS APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO NOW SAY THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO SAY.

I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR.

OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

I, I, I MUST'VE MISSED THAT PART.

UM, UH, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF, SIR.

AND, UM, AND IF YOU COULD JUST KEEP IT BRIEF, I WANTED TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMISSIONERS TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, BUT YES, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

UH, MY NAME IS DON ADRIANA'S.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE, I'M THE CHAIR OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE CHAIR OF MY CONTACT TEAM AND GO VALLEY JOHNSON TERRORISTS ON THE EAST SIDE.

UH, I AM ALSO, UH, ONE OF FOUR, UH, MINORITY, UH, MEMBERS OF THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS, COUNCIL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.

AND I, UM, UH, I ASKED FOR YOUR INDULGENCE BECAUSE THIS COMMISSION, UM, WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN THE, WHEN THE TEN ONE STARTED.

AND I WAS PART OF THE TEN ONE COALITION THAT CREATED THIS, THIS EFFORT.

AND SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO SAY TO Y'ALL, BUT FIRST I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT THIS COMMISSION SHOULD BE INFORMED BY THE EQUITY OFFICE AND THE HISTORY OF SYSTEMIC RACISM IN AUSTIN.

UH, WHO WAS IT? ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF Y'ALL A COUPLE OF Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT THE WATERSHEDS.

NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WATERSHEDS ALL EVERYWHERE, WHERE IT FLOODS, IT'S PEOPLE OF COLOR EVERYWHERE WHERE IT DOESN'T FLOOD IN WEST AUSTIN, IT'S WIDE AUSTIN.

SO AUSTIN HAS A LEGACY OF SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT YOU ALL NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AS YOU REDRAW THESE LINES, BECAUSE THE, THE MINORITY DISTRICTS ESPECIALLY NEED TO NEED ATTENTION TO MAINTAIN A MINORITY PARTICIPATION BECAUSE SINCE TEN ONE WAS CREATED TO TODAY, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MIGRATION OF WHITE PEOPLE INTO TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS OF COLOR AND THAT'S CHANGING.

AND IN MY DISTRICT, WE OPPOSE HAVING OUR DISTRICT THREE SHARE, UH, UM, UH, UM, AREA WITH WEST AUSTIN.

IN OTHER WORDS, DISTRICT THREE IN

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GO VALLEY, UH, GO VALLEY CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN MONTOPOLIS WAS PAIRED UP WITH, UH, CENTRAL, UH, WITH, WITH, UH, WEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE OTHER SIDE AND OUR NEEDS, OUR CRITERIA, OUR, UH, OUR POLITICAL PUSH ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

I'M SORRY.

EXCUSE ME, MR. YANNIS.

I WANT TO HEAR FROM MY ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGER QUICKLY, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

UM, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PROCEDURE.

UM, SO I DO NOT THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD GET HIM ON THE SCHEDULE, BUT HE WASN'T SCHEDULED TO BE ON THIS FORUM OR THIS, I CONSIDER WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT HERE AS OBSTRUCTIONIST AND NOT ALLOWING A PERSON OF COLOR TO MAKE A POINT.

SO RESPECTFULLY, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR POINT, BUT I, UH, AS I HAD STATED EARLIER, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE PART OF THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY IN AN EMAIL AND ALSO INVITING YOU BACK IN ANOTHER TIME TO TESTIFY, BE A PRESENTATION FROM JUSTIN IRVING.

I TRIED TWICE TO GET ON, ON TO GET TO THIS BODY.

AND TWICE ALREADY, I WAS UNABLE TO, BECAUSE OF TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES TWICE, I'VE TRIED TO TESTIFY ON THIS COMMISSION AND MR. IRVING GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.

I AM ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF AMC.

UH, AND SO I'M A LEGITIMATE MEMBER OF THAT LEADERSHIP ORGANIZATION.

I UNDERSTAND, SIR, BUT THIS WAS A PRESENTATION FROM JUSTIN IRVING.

SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO ASK THAT THAT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY IS IN WRITING, OR YOU CAN TESTIFY AT ANOTHER TIME BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS SOME REALLY GOOD TESTIMONY THAT WE COULD HAVE SEPARATELY FROM OUR PRESENTATION ABOUT THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL.

I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK WITH US AND THAT YOU'RE HERE WITH US TODAY, BUT I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT WE DO THIS AT ANOTHER TIME, SIR.

WELL, LET'S NOT MAKE THIS DIFFICULT MAY DOWN IF YOU WANT, BUT, UH, JUST RACISM UP HERE.

THE PROCESS, THE PROCESS IS GEARED IS GEARED TO KEEP PEOPLE OF COLOR OUT OF PARTICIPATION.

WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO Y'ALL AND YOU'RE PUTTING ME OFF.

OKAY, MR. YANNIS, I'VE GOT NOT TO HAVE TO ASK YOU TO, I'M LIKE, I'M DONE, I'M DONE.

THANK YOU, UH, MANAGER, UH, EXCUSE US THERE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK DANIEL DOES, DANIELLE HAS SOME REALLY IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR THE COMMISSION AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF AT SOME LATER DATE HE WAS AVAILABLE TO SPEAK.

ABSOLUTELY.

I HEAR YOU ON THAT.

UM, THIS WAS JUST NOT PART OF OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY.

UM, YOU WILL SAY THOUGH, WE ARE COMMISSION, UM, OF, OF MANY INDIVIDUALS OF COLOR, AND WE HAD COME FROM A LOT OF DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SHUT DOWN ANY VOICE OF COLOR, UM, IN THIS COMMISSION.

SO MY APOLOGIES IF IT CAME ACROSS THAT WAY.

UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, AGAIN, OPEN THE FLOOR FOR QUESTIONS FOR MR. IRVING.

UM, IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL OR ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS AND AUSTIN AND THEIR BOUNDARIES.

UM, SO IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS, JUST USE THE RAISE, YOUR HAND FEATURE LIKE CHRISTIAN, I NEEDED CHRISTIANITY.

OH, HI.

I'M JUSTIN.

YOU HAD MENTIONED THERE ARE 50 ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, IS THERE A LIST OF THEM? YEAH.

YEAH.

AND YOU KNOW, I, WHEN WE, WHEN WE SAY ACTIVE, WHAT WE ACTUALLY MEAN IS THAT THEY PAID DUES.

UM, THERE ARE PROBABLY MORE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT JOIN OUR MEETINGS, UH, BUT TO, TO BE A RECOGNIZED MEMBER OF THE OSS NEIGHBORS COUNCIL, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS AND ELECTIONS, AND YOU MUST, UH, MEET REGULARLY.

SO MANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUS MEMBERS, UH, COUNTY COMMISSIONER, YE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FULFILL THOSE REQUIREMENTS DURING COVID.

AND SINCE THEY'RE PART OF OUR BYLAWS, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MOVE THEM FROM OUR RECORDS, EVEN IF THEY'RE PARTICIPANT.

I UNDERSTAND.

I FEEL LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THERE ARE MANY NEIGHBORHOODS, LEGITIMATE COMMUNITIES THAT MIGHT NOT BE REGISTERED AS ACTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK YOU PROBABLY HAVE ALL WITNESSED THIS, UH, DURING, DURING THE R YOU KNOW, A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.

THAT ENGAGEMENT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

UM, AT THIS POINT, AND EVEN, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS

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ON IMPORTANT NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUES HAS TO TAKE A SECOND, UH, SEATS TO SAFETY.

UM, AND SOME NEIGHBORHOODS ARE, WERE NOT EQUIPPED EITHER THROUGH THEIR PARLIAMENTARY LIMITATIONS OR THROUGH THEIR ABILITY TO UTILIZE TECHNOLOGY, TO CONTINUE MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC IS YOUR CAMBA.

THANK YOU.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY ASK, LIKE, HOW BIG IS YOUR BOARD YOUR BODY, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT, LIKE HOW LARGE IS THAT? AND, UM, ARE YOU SPREAD ACROSS, WHAT DO YOU SAY ALL CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS, OR IS IT LIKE MORE LEANING TOWARDS ASSERT CERTAIN DISTRICTS? UM, IF YOU'D PERMIT ME TO SHARE THE SCREEN AGAIN, I PROBABLY DIDN'T COVER IT WELL ENOUGH.

SO, UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WILL, LET'S SEE IF IT ALLOWS ME TO SHARE AGAIN, THANK YOU.

RIGHT.

SO IF YOU'LL NOTICE, HERE ARE OUR BOARD MEMBERS, THESE ARE OUR EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY, UM, ELECTED BY THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP.

AND THE GENERAL MEMBERSHIP IS COMPRISED OF REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE SENT FROM DEMOCRATICALLY ORGANIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

UM, WE DON'T REALLY DO, UH, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY MEMBERSHIPS FROM HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.

THEY ARE ALL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

AND WHILE THE DIFFERENCE MAY NOT BE IMMEDIATELY CLEAR, IT'S MOSTLY BECAUSE NEIGHBORHOODS AGAIN ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ORGANIC AND ORGANIZED AROUND LOOSE COMMUNITY PERCEPTIONS AROUND, YOU KNOW, WHO YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, A CONDO HOA THAT ACTUALLY HAS A, YEAH, I'M PROBABLY SPEAKING TOO MUCH ABOUT THAT, BUT THE, UH, THE LONG ANSWER IS FOR THE MOST PART, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE MORE LIMITED REPRESENTATION IN SOME AREAS RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY SINCE, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOODS ARE NOT MEETING AS FREQUENTLY AS THEY USED TO.

UM, ESPECIALLY I'VE NOTICED THAT DIS THAT ARE, UH, SECTOR 10 AND SECTOR NINE, UM, HAVE NOT BEEN WELL REPRESENTED BY US RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE WE'RE MISSING THAT REPRESENTS, UH, THAT REPRESENTATED NEWNESS AT THE EDC.

UM, PAT KING, OUR OLD PRESIDENT WAS ACTUALLY FROM DISTRICT, WAS FROM, UM, OUR SECTOR 10, UH, AND THESE LARGELY CROSS THE DISTRICT LINES IN MOST OF THE DISTRICTS.

UM, DON'T FOLLOW THESE PER SE.

EXACTLY, BUT THEY'RE FAIRLY CLOSE.

AND I THINK THAT WAS JUST A COINCIDENCE BECAUSE OUR MAPS WERE DRAWN A LONG TIME AGO.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? I KNOW YOU DID GO INTO THIS NOW THAT I SAY, THANK YOU.

OH, NO, I DON'T THINK I ACTUALLY DID A PARTICULARLY GOOD JOB.

THANKS FOR GIVING ME A SECOND, A SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE.

THANK YOU.

IT'S ALL.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LANDS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIR.

I WAS, UM, UH, WELL, MR. IRVIN, I WAS A PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND, UM, THAT YOU WERE MAKING MENTION OF EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO SET UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, UM, TRANSITIONS INTO PLANS.

AND IF YOU, I KNOW YOU REMEMBER HOW ROCKET WAS.

UM, AND, UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REMEMBER, AND I, I JUST WANT YOUR INPUT ON IT IS THAT, UH, THERE WAS, THERE WAS NO ATTEMPT AT THAT TIME TO TRY AND COALESCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, UH, COMMISSIONS OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCILS WITH, UH, ANYTHING THAT EVEN RESEMBLED, UH, POLITICAL, UM, UH, BOUNDARIES.

IT WAS, UH, INSTEAD MORE CORE INTO WHERE PEOPLE LIVED AND WITHOUT ANY REGARD ON THE SURFACE.

AND, UM, IS THAT THE WAY YOU SAW IT AND IS THAT, IS THAT STILL THE WAY YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT THINGS? I, I THINK THERE'S SOME TRUTH TO THAT FOR SURE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S CHANGED SINCE THE NINETIES.

UH, CAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN THIS CONCEPT WAS FIRST PUT INTO ACTION, AUSTIN WAS A VERY DIFFERENT PLACE THAN IT IS TODAY.

UM, BUT THIS, THE CITY HAS KIND OF MAINTAINED THIS STRUCTURE, UH, WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF ATTEMPTING ATTENTIVENESS TO UPDATING IT.

AND I THINK THAT IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT THAT COMPOSITION IS AND NOWADAYS I CAN, I MEAN, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FROM MY LIVED EXPERIENCE THAT AUSTIN IS BECOMING A MORE HOMOGENIZED

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PLACE.

AND, UM, THAT I THINK YOU SEE IN THE CENSUS NUMBERS, UM, I THINK YOU SEE THAT IN THE GENIE SCORES OF OUR ZIP CODES, I THINK THAT YOU SEE THAT, UH, IN A LOT OF PLACES, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THIS PLAN IS MAYBE BETTER THAN IT WAS BACK IN THE NINETIES? I CAN'T, I CAN'T SAY THAT.

I THINK IT IS.

CAUSE I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WOULD THINK THAT THOSE ASPECTS OF AUSTIN ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO OR THE DIRECTIONALITY THAT IT'S CURRENTLY ON.

BUT THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE AND MY LIVED EXPERIENCE.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE, UM, MUCH MORE TO BRING TO THAT.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.

YEAH.

I, I THINK THAT AS WE'RE DEALING WITH, UM, WITH, UH, TRYING TO FINALIZE MAPS, ONCE WE HAVE ALL THE DATA IN PLACE THAT, UH, IT IT'S GOING TO BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO HEAR PEOPLE LIKE DANIEL AND OTHERS AND GIVE THEM THE FLOOR SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE REPRESENTATIONS.

I THINK THAT, UH, THIS COMMISSION, UH, UH, ITS MAKEUP, UH, REALLY, UH, CALLS FOR, UH, THAT TYPE OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

AND I THINK THAT WE SUFFER WHEN WE DO NOT, UH, HEAR IT, UH, EVEN IF IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GO ON, UM, ON, ON RECORD AS SAYING THAT I SUPPORT THAT I REALLY THOUGHT THAT DANIEL SHOULD HAVE COMPLETED HIS COMPENSATION TODAY BECAUSE I SAW IT AS PART OF THE ANC PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR, I IN LOOKING AT, UH, THE MAPS THAT WERE PRESENTED, UH, I FIND BENEFIT AND BEING ABLE TO SEE RECOGNIZABLE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSTRUCTS, SUCH AS THE GO VALLEY JOHNSTON TERRORISTS, HERITAGE HEALS.

WHEN'S A PART WHEN'S THE TERRORISTS MLK CHERRY CREEK.

AS WE LOOKING TO STRUCTURE DISTRICTS, I BELIEVE THOSE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD INFORMATION IS VITAL SO THAT WE DO NOT INADVERTENTLY, UH, CUT NEIGHBORHOODS, FRAGMENT AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND HALVES AND THIRDS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE SO THAT WE CAN ALSO TAKE CONTINUOUS NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES INTO CONSIDERATION AS A NATURAL BREAKING POINT WHERE ONE BEGINS AND ONE ENDS.

THANK YOU.

YOU KIND OF SHARE HARDEN CHRISTIAN, ARE YOU? WELL, I THINK THAT WHAT MAKES, WHAT COMMISSIONER HARDEN SAID WAS VERY INTERESTING AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

UM, MY OTHER QUESTION FOR JUSTIN IS THAT, UM, UH, SO FOR ALL OF YOUR DIFFERENT SECTORS, UM, I I'M LIKE, IS THERE ANY DOCUMENTATION AS TO WHAT DIFFERENT SECTORS ARE KIND OF MOST CONCERNED WITH? HM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE, SO, YES.

HOWEVER, SO WE TAKE THE NOTES OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, UM, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY FOR MEMBER ONLY KINDS OF COMMUNICATION AND THEY'RE NOT FORMALIZED IN THE MINUTES.

UM, THERE ARE REPORTS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE, ARE STRUGGLING WITH, UH, IN A POLITICAL NATURE TYPICALLY, UM, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSITIVE THAN THAT.

WHETHER OR NOT THAT THEY WANT A NEW SIDEWALK OR, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT.

IF YOU WANT THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE ACTUALLY FORMALIZED.

THERE ARE VERY FEW NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY TO DO THIS, BUT IT'S ON THE CITIES, THEIR CITIES, UH, PAGE ABOUT, UM, THE, THE PLANNINGS ZONES AND YOU CAN SEE THEIR FLOOD COMES.

AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE CITY RECOGNIZES AND THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS FORMALLY PUT INTO THE CITIES, YOU KNOW, PLEASE CITY, THIS IS THE ISSUE THAT WE NEED HELP WITH QUEUE.

UM, SO TH THE AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION COUNCIL PROBABLY DOES NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE WANTING THERE, BUT THE CITY DOES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, I HAD ONE QUESTION AND THAT IS, UM, HOW DOES AMC INTERACT WITH NEIGHBORHOODS

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THAT ARE NOT A PART OF ANCY? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

SO ONE, UM, LIKE I SAID, IF, IF NEIGHBORHOODS WANT TO JOIN, IT'S A PRETTY OPEN PROCESS.

UM, THEY'VE REALLY JUST HAVE TO, UH, HAVE SOME WITH, UM, THE ADVOCACY WORK THAT WE DO, WHICH IS PRETTY GENERAL IN EMPOWERING NEIGHBORHOODS AND PUTTING EQUITY FIRST.

UM, AFTER THAT, THE, UH, THERE'S AN APPLICATION THAT YOU MUST GIVE.

AND IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU ARE A DUES COLLECTING AREA YOURSELF, WHICH SOME NEIGHBORHOODS COLLECT DUES, UM, THEN IT'S KIND OF REQUIRED THAT YOU PAY A FEE TO ANC.

IF YOU DON'T COLLECT DUES IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OR IF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS, UM, EXISTING FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS, WE TYPICALLY A VOTE TO, UM, TO, UH, ALLOW A WAIVER FOR A YEAR.

UM, AND THAT CAN BE ALMOST A PERMANENT WAY WHERE THERE ARE SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS, ASSOCIATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ON WAIVER FOR MANY YEARS.

UM, WE'VE NEVER, UH, TURNED A NEIGHBORHOOD AWAY WHEN IT COMES TO ADVOCATING FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS, UM, COMMONALITIES WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS.

WE DON'T TYPICALLY TRY TO, UH, UM, RESOLVE CONFLICTS BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

UM, WE'VE DONE THAT ON OCCASION, BUT MOST OF THE TIME, THOSE ISSUES ARE BETWEEN COUNCIL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COUNCIL MEN OR WOMAN WHO IS, UH, OR COUNCIL PERSON WHO IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT REPRESENTED THE, THE DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE AND THOSE TWO NEIGHBOR HOODS, BUT WE HAVE DONE SOME MEDIATION THERE.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, CHRISTINA, I GUESS THERE ARE CLEAR POINTS AS WE, WE DON'T, UM, PRETEND TO REPRESENT ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN AUSTIN.

UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO REPRESENT EVERYONE THAT, THAT HAS A COMMONALITY WITH ANC, UM, BUT WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY SHIED AWAY FROM ADVOCATING FOR, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS THAT CAN'T, THAT DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO ADVOCATE FOR THEMSELVES AND FOR WHATEVER REASON CAN JOIN ANC.

THANK YOU, MR. IRVING.

UM, OKAY, SO WE WILL, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE HANDS UP, SO WE WILL LET YOU GO, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS EVENING.

YEAH.

MUCH APPRECIATED.

UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK.

SINCERELY.

I TH THE, THE ONLY WAY OF GOOD MAPS WE'RE GOING TO GET DRAWN IS BY A COMMISSION LIKE THIS.

SO, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

TAKE CARE.

AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK AND THE MEETING STANDS RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE.

SEE YOU IN FIVE.

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OKAY.

THE MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER.

THE TIME OF RECESS HAS EXPIRED.

OKAY.

NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS ITEM TWO, A, THE DISCUSSION ON MAPPING PROCESS WITH MAPPING SPECIALIST, GEORGE CORVEL, MR. CORBELL, ARE YOU WITH US? OKAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO, UM, WHAT MR. CORBELL SHARES WITH US THIS EVENING IS MEANT TO GIVE US INSIGHT IN HOW TO APPROACH OUR VOLUNTARY ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM, UM, IN THE COMING WEEKS.

AND JUST A REMINDER, NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN THESE INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS AND THEY WILL BE RECORDED.

UM, THE CONTENT OF THE CONVERSATIONS WILL BE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING OF A QUORUM UPON THE SECOND REVIEW OF PRELIMINARY MAPS.

UM, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO DISCUSS TODAY, UM, SOME UPDATES FROM MR. KORBEL, AND AGAIN, JUST WAYS TO ENGAGE IN THESE CONVERSATIONS IF YOU CHOOSE TO PARTICIPATE IN THEM.

UM, MR. POURABLE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU.

UM, UM, UH, MADAM CHAIR, UM, I, UM, I WAS REALLY INTERESTED IN THAT MAP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE HOW, UM, HOW CLOSELY,

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UH, THE PEOPLE WHO DREW THESE MAPS, UH, SEVEN YEARS AGO, FOLLOWED THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

AND, UM, UM, I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH SOME OF YOU WHO'VE ASKED THE QUESTION, SHOULD WE START OVER FROM SCRATCH, OR SHOULD WE TRY AND MAKE CHANGES IN THE EXISTING, UH, DISTRICTS AND WHERE IT'S CLEAR THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO FOLLOW ONE OF YOUR, UM, UM, PRIMARY, UM, UH, GOALS? I THINK PROBABLY WE HAVE TO MAKE AS FEW CHANGES AS POSSIBLE, UM, AND, UH, ONLY MAKE ONLY MAKE OTHER CHANGES WHEN IT WOULD, UM, UH, COME CLOSER TO FOLLOWING GOALS.

UM, AND, UH, WE'VE RECEIVED, UM, UH, TWO MAPS FROM THE CITY.

UH, ONE MAP IS OF THE ENTIRE CITY.

AND, UM, THE OTHER MAP IS OF THE DISTRICTS.

AND THERE IS A, UH, THERE IS A DISCREPANCY, A SMALL DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE POPULATION OF THE CITY MAP, THE GROSS CITY MAP, AND, UM, ABOUT FOUR, UH, 1,545 PEOPLE AND THE TOTAL OF THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS.

AND, UM, UM, SO WHAT I DID WAS I AM THE DATA IS NOT AVAILABLE YET ON THE STATE'S COMPUTERS.

AND SO I IMPORTED THE DATA INTO A, UH, ANOTHER, ANOTHER MAPPING SYSTEM.

AND, UM, UM, I SATISFIED MYSELF THAT THERE WAS THAT THERE WAS THAT DEVIATION, UM, OR, AND 1,554 PEOPLE MAY NOT SOUND LIKE MUCH IN THE CITY OF A MILLION, BUT WERE, WERE REQUIRED.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN REDISTRICTING IS POPULATION EQUALITY.

AND, UM, THEN HAVING DISTRICTS THAT ARE CONTIGUOUS AND WE DON'T WANT TO DRIVE DISTRICTS THAT WOULD EXCLUDE POPULATION, THAT IT WOULD BE NON-CONTIGUOUS.

I COULD SEE WHERE THAT YOU COULD GET INTO SOME MAJOR LITIGATION OVER THAT, AND A WHILE THEY PROBABLY WOULD FIX YOUR FIX YOUR PLAN.

NEVERTHELESS, UM, A COURT MIGHT FIX YOUR PLAN.

NEVERTHELESS, YOU RUN THE RISK OF LOSING THE ENTIRE PLAN.

SO, UM, UH, WHAT I, UH, I BROUGHT UP THE DISTRICTS IN, UM, THIS ALTERNATIVE SOFTWARE AND THERE ARE THREE DISTRICTS, THREE, FOUR, AND A 10 THAT COULD BE LEFT THE SAME, THEY'RE WITHIN A, A REASONABLE POPULATION, DEVIATION RANCH, AND THERE ARE, MOST OF THE OTHER DISTRICTS ARE, UM, THE CHANGES REALLY DON'T HAVE TO BE THAT GREAT.

THE, UH, ONE DISTRICT, WHICH I BELIEVE TO BE DISTRICT FOUR, UM, HAS, UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD ABOUT 10,000 PEOPLE TO THAT, BUT OTHERWISE WE'RE IN THE THREE, FOUR AND 6,000 RANGE, UH, FOR THE, UM, FOR THE OTHER DISTRICTS.

SO, UM, UM, WHAT I WOULD, UM, WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE DO IS THAT, UM, AS SOON AS THE STATE HAS, UM, THEIR, UM, COMPUTER AVAILABLE AND THEY SAY, IT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.

UM, I WILL GO AHEAD AND IMPORT THESE MAPS INTO THE STATE SYSTEM.

IN FACT, I'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.

AND, UM, THEN I WILL, UH, PROVIDE YOU WITH A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE RESULTS ARE, AND I SUSPECT THE RESULTS WILL BE VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO THE RESULTS THAT WE'VE DONE THAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.

UM, AND, UM, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH YOU, TO GET YOUR IDEAS.

NORMALLY, WHEN WE DO OUR REDISTRICTING, LIKE THIS, WE'RE HIRED BY THE, UM, ELECTED BODY BY THE CITY COUNCIL OR SCHOOL BOARD OR COUNTY COMMISSION, AND THEY HAVE PARTICULAR GOALS IN MIND.

UM, ONE OF WHICH IS MAKING SURE THAT, UM, THE, WHATEVER POLITICAL, UH, GROUP THEY BELONG TO, THAT THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE, UM, SOME, UH, SOME ACCESS TO POWER.

UM, YOURS IS A MUCH DIFFERENT IS A MUCH DIFFERENT, UM, CIRCUMSTANCE, BUT I REALLY THINK WE OUGHT TO HANDLE IT THE SAME WAY.

I LIKE TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO THE CONCEPT, UH, TO THE CITY COUNCILMAN, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I'LL LET THEM LOOK AT THE MAPS AND GIVE ME WHATEVER IDEAS THEY HAVE.

AND OFTEN THEY WILL ASK QUESTIONS THAT, UM, THEY WERE HESITANT TO ASK IN A GENERAL FORUM OR, UM, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED ABOUT ASKING THEM.

AND SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND,

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AND DEAL WITH VIRTUALLY ANY QUESTION, ANY QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE, AND THEN YOUR IDEAS, THE WAY I WOULD PROPOSE THAT THESE MEETINGS START, UM, 45 MINUTES IS USUALLY, UM, A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UH, MEETING LIKE THIS, BUT THAT WE PUT THE MAP UP AND SAY, UH, THIS DISTRICT NEEDS TO HAVE IN THE AREA THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTING NEEDS TO HAVE, UM, UH, 2000 PEOPLE ADDED,