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ALL RIGHT.

VERY WELL.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

AND WELCOME EVERYBODY.

THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR THE MEETING OF THE CAPITAL METRO BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

I'LL CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER.

TODAY IS MONDAY, AUGUST 30TH, AND THE TIME IS 1205.

UH, AS USUAL BEFORE WE GET STARTED A COUPLE OF LOGISTICAL ITEMS. I QUICK REMINDER AGAIN, TO KEEP YOUR MICROPHONE ON MUTE, UNLESS YOU'RE SPEAKING, PLEASE REMEMBER TO MUTE YOURSELF AGAIN.

WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED ALSO BOARD MEMBERS, WHEN OUR VOTING ITEMS COME UP, I'LL BE ASKING BOARD MEMBERS FOR A VERBAL VOTE OF YAY OR NAY ON EACH ITEM INDIVIDUALLY, AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

ALSO A ONE TO REMIND BOARD MEMBERS THAT, UH, WE NEED YOU TO KEEP YOUR CAMERA ON, UH, AT ALL TIMES IF POSSIBLE, TO COMPLY WITH TEXAS LAW ON REMOTE MEETINGS AND PARTICULARLY, UH, WHEN YOU'RE CAST IN THE VOTE.

UH, THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE LOOKED AT OUR AGENDA TODAY, KNOW WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW ITEMS THAT WE WANT TO GET TO YOU.

UM, AND I THINK WE HAVE A FEW BOARD MEMBERS WHO NEED TO LEAVE BEFORE THE MEETING IS OVER.

SO IN ORDER TO HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE PARTICIPATE, UH, AND PARTICULARLY OUR DISCUSSION OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ITEM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, UM, AS WELL AS THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO AND, UH, UH, WITH YOUR INDULGENCE AS MOVE OUR AGENDA AROUND A LITTLE BIT, GO THROUGH OUR NORMAL, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, THOSE THAT WANT TO SPEAK UP FRONT AND THEN, UH, MOVE INTO THE FIRST ACTION ITEM, WHICH WOULD BE THE PUBLIC SAFETY AGENDA.

SO, UH, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION TO THAT, THAT'S THE WAY WE'LL PROCEED.

UM, AND HEARING THEM THEN, UH, WE'LL TAKE UP OUR

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FIRST AGENDA ITEM, WHICH WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE, UH, ATU, PRESIDENT PRINT PAIN, CHAIRMAN COOPER.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

THANK YOU.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR GIVING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK, UH, TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, UH, PRESIDENT CLARK.

AND THEN OF COURSE YOUR CHAIRMAN COOPER, UH, ATU.

I JUST WANT ON BEHALF OF ATU, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF CAPITOL METROS, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING MORE PROTECTION FOR ONE, THE RIDING PUBLIC AND FOR MY BUS OPERATORS AND MECHANICS, WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE, UH, THIS IS DEALING WITH, UH, IMPOSE TRANSIT POLICE, UH, GOING TO A TRANSIT POLICE STYLE STYLE, UH, UH, KAPLAN METROS DEFINITELY HELPED ME AND MY EXECUTIVE BOARD.

WELL-INFORMED WE'RE PART OF THE PROCESS AND ATU IS 100% BEHIND SUPPORTING THIS.

UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU PRETTY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TODAY.

OKAY.

BUT IN THAT, NO, I'M JUST SAYING OTHER THAN THAT, I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF IT 100%.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE AS SYNOVIA JOSEPH.

AND DO YOU HAVE HER, OR SHOULD WE COME BACK TO HER VERY WELL, NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE ISAIAH SMITH.

I'M HERE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MR. SMITH.

UM, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, INCLUDING BUS OPERATORS AND TRANSIT PROFESSIONALS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND ALSO ADDRESS THINGS OF

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CONCERN.

TODAY.

I HAVE BEEN A BUS OPERATOR, UM, CON WITH DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS OF CAP METRO SINCE OCTOBER, 2018 ON AUGUST 3RD.

UM, UH, FISHER WAS MY LAST STATE WORKING WITH THE COMPANY.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING, UM, AS A TRANSIT PROFESSIONAL FOR TWO YEARS IN SEVEN MONTHS.

I ENJOY EVERY BIT OF WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

HOWEVER, I DID NOT ENJOY IT ALL.

WORKING WITH MEMBERS OF MANAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN EMPTY TRANSPORTATION TOOK OVER OPERATION.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I DECIDED TO RESIGN WAS DUE TO MY EDUCATIONAL INTERESTS.

UM, A LOT OF, WELL, SOME INDIVIDUALS, UM, MV TRANSPORTATION PUT ON PART-TIME THAT ARE BUDDY BUDDIES WITH MEMBERS OF MANAGEMENT.

HOWEVER, SINCE I'M A FULL-TIME COLLEGE STUDENT AND BECAUSE I'M OUTSPOKEN, UM, I WAS BASICALLY TOLD BY A MEMBER OF MANAGEMENT THAT THE COMPANY COULD AFFORD TO PUT ME ON PART-TIME.

UM, DESPITE EVERYBODY ELSE BEING ON, PART-TIME NOT BEING A FULL-TIME COLLEGE STUDENT.

AND I THINK THAT'S TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE AND IS VERY UNFAIR, ESPECIALLY WHEN I'M DEDICATING MULTIPLE YEARS OF SERVICE TO HELPING CUSTOMERS.

THE LAST THING, ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS WHY I DECIDED TO RESIGN FROM MY POSITION IS YOU SORT OF PRACTICE THAT MV TRANSPORTATION IS CURRENTLY IN THE LAWSUIT RIGHT NOW, A FAIRLY PERCENTERS LAWSUIT, BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT PAY PEOPLE CORRECTLY.

AND I'M THE MASTERMIND BEHIND THIS, THAT A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT I REALLY DO NOT APPRECIATE WORKING MY TIME MULTIPLE YEARS.

AND WHEN THIS COMPANY COMES INTO OFFICE STAFF ALWAYS MESSED UP ON THE PEOPLE'S PATIENTS, THAT SINGLE PAYCHECK PERIOD, ALL OF US KNOW, I MEAN, I HAVE TO WAIT TWO WEEKS, TWO WEEKS FROM ONE PAY PERIOD TO ANOTHER PAY PERIOD BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT GET MY PAYCHECK CORRECTLY.

AND THAT'S TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

THIS IS NOT JUST A ONE INCIDENT THING.

THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE THROUGHOUT ALL THE CAP METRO THAT WE CAN NOT STAND.

AND I HAVE MET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN DRIVING FOR YEARS THAT HAVE TOLD ME THAT THEY HAVE LEFT AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FIND OTHER PLACES OF EMPLOYMENT DOING TO MEMBERS OF MANAGEMENT AT NV TRANSPORTATION.

THEY ARE A HUGE PAIN TO US.

I REALLY DON'T APPRECIATE THEM.

AND THEY LIKE TO CAUSE FIGHTS WITH EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON MAKING SURE EVERYONE IS ATE CORRECTLY AND MAKING SURE THAT OPERATORS GO SAFE AND COME INTO WORK.

SO THOSE ARE MY REASONS FOR RESIGNING AND BEING TOLD THAT THEY COULD AFFORD TO PUT ME ON PART-TIME, WHICH I REALLY DON'T APPRECIATE.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MEMBERS OF THE CAP METRO BOARD ARE AWARE OF THESE ISSUES.

AND I REALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT PROJECT CONNECT WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH MV TRANSPORTATION, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE MEMBERS OF MANAGEMENT AT MV TRANSPORTATION THAT DO NOT, AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT DO NOT TREAT EMPLOYEES CORRECTLY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE EMPLOYEES WANTING TO COME TO WORK.

I MEAN, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE QUIT BECAUSE OF MV TRANSPORTATION OF THIS WAS WRAP THEM.

I THINK THINGS WILL BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT I CAN'T STAND THEM BE TRANSPORTATION.

AM I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT APPRECIATE THEM DELIBERATELY MESSING UP ON PEOPLE'S PAYCHECKS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE OF THAT.

UM, AND LASTLY, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT FEDERAL FUNDS, I THINK THAT THIS COULD BE CONSIDERED FRAUD BECAUSE IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK UP THE COMPANY, UM, THEY HAVE BEEN SUED ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES FOR THESE TYPES OF TIME-SAVING SCHEMES, ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, THEY'RE IN FEDERAL COURT, EVERYWHERE, AND MEMBERS OF THEIR MANAGEMENT.

DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THAT YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE PAYCHECKS OF PACIFIC EMPLOYEES, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU JUST DON'T DO, BUT THEY LOVE TO DO IT.

SO SHE DOESN'T WANT IT TO MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE OF THAT.

AND I DO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. SMITH.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE, UH, DONNA DIVINE.

HELLO? HELLO.

I'M PRESENT ANY HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM GO AHEAD PLEASE.

YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK HERE AT THIS BOARD MEETING.

UM, I AM A BUS OPERATOR AND I'VE BEEN WITH MV TRANSPORTATION FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.

AND I WANTED TO COME HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PHYSICAL SAFETY OF BUS DRIVERS.

UM, AS YOU GUYS PROBABLY UNDERSTAND, UM, THERE'S A LOT, WE HAVE TO CONTEND WITH OUT IN THE FIELD, UM, WITH ALL TYPES OF CUSTOMERS AND OCCASIONALLY WE NEED HELP.

UM, SO SAFETY IS ALWAYS A BIG CONCERN FOR ME AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT SPECIFICALLY SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

UM,

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WE HAVE A, UH, NO CELL PHONE POLICY ON THE BUS, UM, IN FRONT OF THE SANDY LINE.

IF WE WANT TO USE THE PHONE, WE WOULD EITHER HAVE TO DISBARRED AND USE IT OUTSIDE OR SET BACK BEHIND THE STANDEE LINE.

UM, BUT RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE A NO TOLERANCE POLICY.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT INCLUDES CALLING 9 1 1.

SO I FELT IT WAS AN URGENCY TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT, UM, THIS IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE OFTEN WHEN A BUS DRIVER ENDS UP IN A VERY SCARY SITUATION, UM, WHERE THEY MIGHT BE TRAPPED IN A CERTAIN AREA THAT THE INABILITY TO CALL 9 1, 1, UM, W CAN BE IN CONFLICT WITH WHAT THE DRIVER IS ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH.

SO I'M ACTUALLY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.

UNFORTUNATELY, I ENDED UP IN A SITUATION ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, UM, WHERE I WAS FORCED TO CALL 9 1 1, UM, FROM MY BUS SEAT.

SO, UM, THERE WAS A PATRON, UM, WHO WAS SCREAMING AND THREATENING BODILY HARM AND WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO GET OUT OF MY SEAT.

AND SO I NEEDED TO CALL NINE 11.

I'VE BEEN PUT ON UNPAID SUSPENSION AND I'VE BEEN IN THAT STATUS FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

AND, UM, MY FUTURE IS UNCLEAR.

SO I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM MAKING ANY PERSONAL CALLS WITH A PHONE.

AND, UM, AND OF COURSE I COULDN'T FORESEE THAT I WAS GOING TO BE THREATENED OR HELP TO MY FEET.

SO I, AND IT'S A JOB THAT I, THAT I ENJOY.

I REALLY ENJOY SERVING CUSTOMERS AND DRIVING BUSES.

AND, UM, I'VE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME, MY OWN SELF RECONCILING HOW MY COMPANY IS DEALING WITH THIS.

AND, UM, MY ABILITY TO CALL 9 1 1.

SO I WANTED TO PRESENT THAT HERE TO YOU GUYS, BECAUSE THE ABILITY TO CALL 9 1, 1 IS, UM, AN URGENT SITUATION THAT I FEEL SHOULD BE AFFORDED TO EVERY BUS DRIVER.

AND I WOULDN'T WANT ANY BUS DRIVER TO BE PUNISHED FOR BEING IN THAT POSITION.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO, TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR AIR AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

UM, THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MISS DIVINE.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE LIKELY TO BUTCHER THE NAME OF WEISS AZHAR CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES.

GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

DEAR CAPITAL, METRO CHAIR VICE-CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY.

MY NAME IS AND I SERVE ON THE LEADERSHIP TEAM OF FINDING OUR COMMUNITIES.

IN ADDITION, I'M ALSO A LIFETIME TRANSIT USER AND A DAILY CUSTOMER OF GAP.

METRO, DO THEY, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO POSTPONE TAKING ACTION ON, UM, ACTION ITEM ONE ON YOUR AGENDA, THE RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE CAPITOL METRO TRANSIT POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS POSTPONEMENT IN COLLABORATION WITH JUST LIBERTY, AUSTIN, JUSTICE, COALITION, AUSTIN, URBAN LEAGUE, AND PEOPLE UNITED FIRMS AT THE ACTION.

THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT DECISION IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY AND TRANSIT AGENCY FOR A LONG TIME TO COME.

THIS RESOLUTION WOULD ENACT COURT AUTHORIZED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CAPITOL.

METRO GRAPHICS BELIEF DIRECT THE PRESIDENT AND CEO TO ENGAGE YOUR PROFESSIONALS.

TO GUIDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROGRAM INCLUDE IN THE CAPITAL METRO FISCAL YEAR, 2022 OPERATING BUDGETS, SUFFICIENT FUNDING TO CONTINUE THIS WORK OVER THE NEXT YEAR, INCLUDING RESOURCES NECESSARY TO HIRE STAFF WITH THE PRESIDENT AND CEO REPORTING BACK TO THE BOARD ON PROGRESS AT A BOARD MEETING IN EARLY 2022.

THUS, I REALLY WANT TO BE PERIOD.

THE DECISION BEING MADE TODAY IS CRITICAL AND FINAL.

IF THE BOARD VOTES IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION TODAY, THERE'S LITTLE SPACE FOR THE BOARD AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO SHAPE THIS PROPOSAL.

THIS IS THE KIND OF DECISION THAT WE SHOULD BE TAKING IN THE RIGHT WAY AS A COMMUNITY, NOT IN A QUICK WAY, AND IS OBVIOUS TO THEIR ASSOCIATED PERSONNEL AND POLICE MATTERS.

AND POLICY MATTERS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED TO ENSURE THAT OUR BUS DRIVERS AND OUR BUS RIDERS ARE SAFE.

AND I APPRECIATE GAP METRO, AS OPPOSED TO PUBLIC SAFETY, INCLUDING OTHER MECHANISMS TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES BEFORE TAKING ANY DECISION ON THE CREATION OF A NEW DEPARTMENT, THE BOARD CONDUCT A TERM DATA-DRIVEN AND EQUITY FOCUSED ANALYSIS FOR THE NEED FOR CAPITAL METRO COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHILE ENGAGING WITH KEY STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, TRANSIT WRITERS, COMMUNITY

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MEMBERS, AND BUS DRIVERS IS ALSO CRITICAL TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE FISCAL IMPACT OF THIS DECISION BEFORE CREATING A NEW DEPARTMENT IN THE MEANWHILE, THE DEPARTMENT SHOULD CONTINUE TO EXPAND ITS PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAM TO THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTORS AND INTERVENTION SPECIALISTS IN COLLABORATION WITH OUR BUS DRIVERS.

I APPRECIATE FAST OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE FROM GAP METRO, BUT WE NEED TO EXPAND FURTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ENGAGE IN THIS CRITICAL ISSUE.

WE HOPE THE BOARD WOULD POSTPONE THIS IMPORTANT DECISION TODAY AND TAKE THE TIME TO BUILD CONSENSUS AND INFORM OUR COMMUNITY FULLY ABOUT THIS CRITICAL ITEM.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT Y'ALL DO CHECK COOPER.

COULD I ASK, I DIDN'T CATCH IT THIS PAST SPEAKER SAID HE WAS SPEAKING FOR A COUPLE OF GROUPS.

COULD HE REPEAT THOSE GROUPS AGAIN? OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU.

I CAN REPEAT THOSE.

THIS WOULD BE PLANNING OUR COMMUNITIES AND WE'RE ALSO IN COLLABORATION WITH JUST LIBERTY, THE AUSTIN JUSTICE COALITION, THE AUSTIN AREA, URBAN LEAGUE, AND PEOPLE UNITED FROM ABILITY.

ACTION.

THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE STEVEN SIGMUND.

HELLO.

ARE YOU ABLE TO, UH, MR. ZIGMUND, UH, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

FINE.

WELCOME.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE BOARD FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.

UM, I'M A, UH, URBAN PLANNER AND A PHD STUDENT AND FAIRLY REGULAR TRANSIT USER, UH, OF CAP METRO.

UM, SO FOR ME, THE, THE GOAL OF A TRANSIT AGENCY IS TO ENABLE CITIZENS TO KIND OF EFFECTIVELY ACCESS THE BENEFITS THAT COME WITH LIVING IN THE AUSTIN ARITY AIR AREA.

OF COURSE, SAFETY IS PART OF THIS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT POLICE SHOULD BE SEEN AS A TRANSIT BY A TRANSIT AGENCY AS A LAST RESORT AND NOT A FIRST RESPONSE.

UM, SOME REASONS FOR THIS, UH, AS REPORTED IN THE STATESMAN OR SUPER MAJORITY OF CAP, METRO RIDERS ALREADY DO FEEL SAFE, RIDING CAP, METRO SERVICES.

UH, SO WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PURPOSE OF INCREASING THE INVOLVEMENT OF POLICE AND TRANSIT OPERATIONS? AND I THINK THIS IS A CRUCIAL QUESTION BECAUSE POLICE TEND TO BECOME ALL PURPOSE PROBLEM SOLVERS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE GREATER CLEVELAND RTA TRANSIT POLICE BECAME MORE AND MORE INVOLVED IN DAILY OPERATIONS THAT ARE WELL OUTSIDE THEIR SKILLSET.

AND THIS LED TO A PATTERN OF CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS AND AN EXTRAORDINARY DISTRICT COURT JUDGE ORDERING THE AGENCY, SEES ITS USAGE FOR OUTPUT FOR TRANSIT ENFORCEMENT IN THE INTERIM.

THE AGENCY IS CURRENTLY PAYING NOW FOR CONSULTANTS AND LAWYERS TO IMPROVE THEIR HIRING PRACTICES OF THEIR TRANSIT POLICE HOLD DIVERSITY AND TRAINING MEDIATION TRAININGS AND REDESIGN THEIR FARE SYSTEM.

UH, THESE COSTS COULD HAVE GONE TO IMPROVING TRANSIT SERVICE AND EMPLOYEE WORK CONDITIONS, UH, AND WE SHOULD NEVER MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL LIKELY INFRINGE ON THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF PASSENGERS, WHICH WILL HAPPEN WHEN POLICE ARE INTRODUCED TO CONFLICTS AT A MATTER, AS A MATTER OF POLICY AND NOT AS A LAST RESORT.

UH, SECONDLY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE A VISION ZERO POLICY FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, AND WE SHOULD DEFINITELY HAVE THAT SAME STANDARD FOR TRANSIT PASSENGERS.

I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT OSCAR GRANT WAS MURDERED BY TRANSIT POLICE, AND WE SHOULD NEVER MAKE A DECISION.

I SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO A PASSENGER BEING KILLED BY POLICE OFFICERS.

THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS IS REAL WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF ARMED POLICE OFFICERS, DAILY SERVICE OPERATIONS.

FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO CLOSE ON A MORE POSITIVE NOTE.

I APPLAUD CAP METRO FOR THE HUGE STEPS THAT THEY HAVE MADE TO IMPROVE TRANSIT OFFERINGS IN THE AUSTIN AREA.

AND THIS INCLUDES SAFETY.

AND WE SHOULD TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY AS A COMMUNITY TO INNOVATE IN THE AREA OF TRANSIT OPERATIONS, SECURITY, WHETHER THAT'S SAFETY AMBASSADORS AND PASSENGERS, CONFLICT MEDIATOR, MEDIATORS, SOCIAL WORKERS, AS, AS PART OF RIDE ALONGS.

UM, THESE ARE, THIS IS AN AREA THAT THERE'S A HUGE AREA OF OPPORTUNITY TO INNOVATE.

AND I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT, UH, AND LEADERSHIP AT THIS BOARD CAN OFFER.

UM, I REALLY WOULD SINCERELY ASK THAT YOU POSTPONE THIS DECISION TO APPROVE, UH, A ESTABLISHMENT OF A TRANSIT POLICE FORCE AND MORE THOROUGHLY STUDY THE IMPACTS THAT IS LIKELY TO HAVE THE PASSENGERS.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU, MR. SEGMENT.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE ABENA FERNANDEZ.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

MR. FERNANDEZ.

WELCOME.

YES.

WELL, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, THANKS.

OH, SURE.

THANK YOU.

UH, MY NAME IS , UH, COALITION OF MEXICAN AMERICAN LANDOWNERS IN EAST AUSTIN SLASH LULAC.

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AND FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, UH, CAP METRO AND ITS ONGOING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND SPONSORSHIP, UH, COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AS WE WILL ALSO PARTNER AGAIN THIS YEAR TO PROMOTE NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION DAY.

AND WE'RE ALSO, UH, PLEASED TO HAVE JUST AWARDED OVER $25,000 IN SCHOLARSHIPS THROUGH LINE TO STUDENTS FROM MAINER AND DEL VALLEY.

AND AISB, UH, ON THE POLICE ISSUE.

UH, MY CONCERN IS, UH, THE INEQUITY OF APPLICATION ON THE POLICIES BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, UH, UH, I WROTE THE, THE RAIL TO LEANDER WITH A FRIEND OF MINE AND HIS SON JUST FOR FUN, RIGHT? AND THE IS THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE MASS WAS REALLY STRICT.

MY FRIEND WOULD PULL IT DOWN TO BREATHE BETTER AND, UH, THROUGH THE CAMERA, THAT PERSON WOULD COME OUT AND TELL HIM, YOU HAVE TO PUT IT ON OR YOU NEED TO GET OFF TO THE NEXT SPOT.

FINE.

WELL, I GO TO A SOCCER GAME AND WHEN I LEAVE THE SOCCER GAME, THE REL THE TRAIN, ISN'T ONLY PACKED SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, BUT NO ENFORCEMENTS OR MASK.

SO I, THAT'S WHY I KEEP SAYING THAT THIS IS A FEAR THAT I HAVE WITH HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMING PLACE IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE INEQUITABLE AND ITS APPLICATIONS LIKE THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.

AND UNTIL WE'RE ABLE TO SEE CONSISTENCY AND APPLICATION OF POLICIES WHERE THE PUBLIC BUY INTO OR USERS BUY INTO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE SAFETY OF THE BUS DRIVERS, UH, BECAUSE, UH, I'M, UH, A BUS RIDER, UH, BEEN ALL MY LIFE SINCE I WAS A KID.

AND I HAVE SEEN THE DRAMATIC, UH, UNFORTUNATE SITUATIONS THAT ARE PLACED IN, BUT I THINK WE NEED MORE DISCUSSION.

WE NEED MORE INPUT.

WE NEED MORE, UH, INFORMATION TRANSPARENCY.

THEY SAY THERE'S 13 SPOTS THAT ARE HOTSPOTS.

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE SPOTS ARE.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH US.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CANNOT AS CONSIGLIO AND LOU, I COUNCIL NUMBER TWO TO THREE TO FIVE IN THAT REQUEST TO POSTPONE MOVING FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A VERY BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUT IN PLACE AND THAT IT IS SAFE, NOT ONLY FOR EVERYBODY, UH, AND, UH, SO THAT THAT'S MY PLEA AND MY REQUEST.

AND AGAIN, THANKS CAP METRO FOR ITS CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT.

AND I DO WANT TO PRAISE THE ORANGE IRVINE HANDS-ON, UH, PROJECT THAT, UH, RANDY PARTICIPATED IN.

I THINK THAT WAS GENUINE.

AND RANDY JUST CONTINUES TO SURPRISE ME.

MELISSA'S CAPACITY INTELLIGENCE IN RUNNING THIS, UH, TRANSIT TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. FERNANDEZ.

APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

IT CONTINUES TO SURPRISE US AS WELL.

UH, OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE, UH, YASMIN SMITH.

HI, CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? WE CAN MS. SMITH WELCOME.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

OF COURSE.

THANK YOU.

I ESTEEM MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS YASMINE SMITH, BORN PROUD, BORN AND RAISED AUSTINITE.

AND I COME TO YOU TODAY IN MY CAPACITY AS CHAIR FOR PEOPLE UNITED FOR MOBILITY ACTION, PUMA AND THE DIRECTOR OF JUSTICE AND ADVOCACY FOR THE AUSTIN AREA, URBAN LEAGUE, A UL.

MY TESTIMONY IS IN RELATION TO THE CREATION OF THE CAPITOL METRO TRANSIT POLICE DEPARTMENT.

FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER MY APPRECIATION TO THE BOARD AND YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.

IN THIS MATTER, YOUR GOAL OF CREATING A SPACE FOR TRANSIT EXPERIENCE FOR ALL WRITERS.

HOWEVER, WE AT THE AUSTIN AREA, URBAN LEAGUE AND PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR FELLOW COALITION MEMBERS, OFTEN JUSTICE COALITION PLANNING, OUR COMMUNITY, JUST LIBERTY AND PEOPLE UNITED FROM BOOTY ACTION ASKED YOU TO TAKE A BEAT AND ALLOW FOR MORE TIME TO TRULY HONOR WHAT YOU ALL ARE ABOUT TO VOTE ON THE CREATION OF AN ENTIRE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I LIKE TO DIRECT YOU TO THE PRESENTATION POSTED TODAY BY STAFF AND THE MEETING BACKUP.

IF YOU VOTE YAY ON THIS RESOLUTION, IT WILL BE BASED OFF A DATASET OF A MERE 570 PEOPLE, 406, WHICH WERE CUSTOMERS OUT OF THE 406 AND OVERWHELMINGLY 80%.

DESCRIBE THE SECURITY BEING FIVE WITH LESS THAN A THIRD 32% ARTICULATING THE NEED FOR ENHANCED SECURITY.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT, THIS IS ENHANCED SECURITY, NOT NECESSARILY EXPLICITLY A POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT MEANS THAT YOU ARE CORROBORATING THE ASSUMPTION OF THE NECESSITY FOR A POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALL THE COMMENTS OF A MIRROR, 184 PEOPLE ON A SURVEY THAT HAS MUCH OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH AND ITS METHODOLOGY.

YOU WOULD BE CASTING YOUR VOTE FOR THE CREATION OF A HISTORICALLY OPPRESSIVE SYSTEM BASED ON LOG METHODOLOGIES, LAID UPON AN EXTREMELY SMALL DATASET AT A TIME WHERE THE FISCAL BUDGET IS AT A DEFICIT OF $1.4 MILLION.

WHILE I APPRECIATE THE GOAL OF THE CREATION OF THE ENHANCED SAFETY FOR ALL TRANSIT USERS AND PROVIDERS, WE SHOULD NOT DO SO IN A MANNER THAT DOES NOT OPTIMIZE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND DATA-DRIVEN PRACTICES.

IF YOU STILL ARE UNABLE TO DECIPHER THE BENEFIT OF POSTPONEMENT, WE ASKED YOU TO CREATE A PROCESS FOR EXPLORING THIS OPTION BASED ON DATA AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AS OPPOSED TO ESTABLISHING A POLICE DEPARTMENT TODAY,

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YOU HEARD TESTIMONY TODAY FROM A BUS DRIVER WHO ARTICULATED SHE WOULD LIKE AN INCREASED LEVEL LEVEL OF SAFETY, BUT DERIVED IT TO AN INTERNAL POLICY THAT THIS ALLOWED HER FOR MAKING A CALL FROM WHERE SHE SAT, NOT NECESSARILY THAT SHE WANTED THE CREATION OF AN ADDITIONAL POLICE DEPARTMENT IGNORING HER CORE ISSUE OF LAW AND PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES DUE TO THE LACK OF TRUE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND UNDERSTANDING, AND INSTEAD CREATING WHAT YOU BELIEVE WILL ELEVATE ALLEVIATE THE SYSTEMS OF HER CORE ISSUE IS NOT SERVING HER NOR YOUR PROVIDERS, NOR YOUR RIDERS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY ALIGNS WITH A FLAWED METHODOLOGY THAT IS BEING USED TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION.

LET US TOGETHER REIMAGINE SAFETY RATHER THAN FOLLOW A PRIUS OR ASSUMED TEMPLATE.

WE IN AUSTIN HAVE A NARRATIVE WITH BEING DIFFERENT.

I HOPE THAT WE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A NARRATIVE THAT ALSO URGES US TO BE BETTER.

THIS DELEGATION BASED ON AN ASSUMPTION, CORROBORATED BY METHODOLOGY, UH, THAT IS SQUAD TESTED UPON A MINUSCULE DATA SET IS NOT HOW WE CHART A COURSE FOR BETTER.

RATHER I'D ARGUED ONLY ASSURED THE REALITIES OF REMAINING THE SAME AND QUITE POSSIBLY MARGINALIZING VULNERABLE POPULATIONS ON OUR EXPEDITED ROUTE TO HARMFUL MEDIOCRITY, PLEASE POSTPONE.

AND IF NOT AT THE VERY LEAST MAKE THIS RESOLUTION ONE OF EXPLORATION RATHER THAN ALLOCATION, LET US INNOVATE RATHER THAN DELEGATE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MISS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JP CONLEY.

MR. COLLIN, ARE YOU WITH US? ED? DO YOU HAVE HIM? YEAH.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER WOULD BE CATHY MITCHELL.

HI, CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM WELCOME.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MY NAME IS KATHY MITCHELL.

I AM WITH JUST LIBERTY AND I AM PART OF THIS COALITION.

THAT'S COME TOGETHER TO ASK YOU TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM A WHILE IT GETS MORE STUDY.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE EXCELLENT COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE HEARD.

SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT BRIEF.

UH, AUSTIN TRANSIT SYSTEM CRISSCROSSES CROSSES THE CITY AND AUSTIN ALREADY IS PROTECTED BY LAYERS OF POLICE AGENCIES.

UH, WE HAVE THE SHERIFF, THE CONSTABLES APD, AND IN SOME AREAS NOW STATE TROOPERS, SINCE AUSTIN REMAINS AMONG THE NATION'S SAFEST CITIES WITH RATES OF VIOLENT CRIME, THE ENVY OF OTHER TEXAS CITY, THIS NEW TRANSIT POLICE AGENCY MAY BE A HAMMER HOPING TO FIND A NAIL.

I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THE COMMENTS FROM THE BUS DRIVER WHO BASICALLY POINTED OUT THAT THE ONLY THING PREVENTING HER FROM CONNECTING THESE LAYERS OF EXISTING POLICE AGENCIES IS A CELL PHONE POLICY THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE REVIEWED AND CHANGED.

THE SAVE AUSTIN JUST ADDED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO APDS BUDGET OVER AND ABOVE 2019 LEVEL.

THE 140 FOURTH CADET CLASS WILL GRADUATE.

SOON.

THREE MORE CADET CLASSES WERE INCLUDED IN THE RECENT CITY BUDGET, EVEN SO A VALID INITIATIVE BACKED BY APA.

THEY REQUIRE THE CITY TO HIRE HUNDREDS, MORE POLICE OFFICERS, REGARDLESS OF THE HARMS OTHER CITY PRIORITIES IN THIS MOMENT.

AND I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.

THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED MOMENT FOR THIS ISSUE TO COME UP.

YOUR TRANSIT STAFF COMES TO YOU WITH A PROPOSAL TO APPROVE THE CREATION OF YET ANOTHER POLICE AGENCY IN AUSTIN, SPECIFICALLY AIMED AT POLICING.

THOSE WHO RIDE OUR BUSES AND TRAINS, MANY OF WHOM ARE THE SAME KIND OF LOW-INCOME WORKERS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO ARE ALREADY OVER POLICED.

I THINK YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT DETAILS ARE TO COME, BUT THOSE DETAILS MATTER HOW MANY OFFICERS AND WHAT WILL THEY BE DOING? THIS IS A VEXING QUESTION WITH WHICH POLICE AGENCIES EVERYWHERE ARE WRESTLING.

WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THIS NEW SET OF OFFICERS? THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT WON'T HAVE JURISDICTIONS AND CIVILIAN REVIEW PANEL WANT EITHER.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ONE OF THESE OFFICERS SHOOTS THE BUS RIDER OR A BYSTANDER? WHAT ABOUT COMMUNITY CONCERNS RELATED TO EQUITY AND ENFORCEMENT? AS YOU JUST HEARD, THE NEW AGENCY WILL NEED TO HAVE AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS AND ITS OWN EVIDENCE SYSTEM

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WILL.

IT NEEDS CIT SPECIALISTS.

SO NO MENTAL HEALTH IN IT.

THIS IS ALL HUGELY EXPENSIVE.

WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF THE NEW LEGAL LIABILITY THAT CAP METRO WILL FACE FOR POSSIBLE POLICE MISCONDUCT AND HOW WILL ALL THESE NEW COSTS START TO CONSTRAIN WHAT YOU CAN SPEND ELSEWHERE IN YOUR BUDGET? IT IS LIKELY THAT TO ENSURE CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT, YOU WILL END UP CREATING NOT ONE AGENCY, BUT TO KEEPING OUR TRANSIT RIDERS SAFE REQUIRES A RANGE OF STAFFING AND AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE NEEDS OF THE POPULATIONS.

POLICE SHOW UP WITH A REST AS THEIR PRIMARY TOOL AND SMALL ARMS AS THEIR PRIMARY LEVERAGE, REGARDLESS OF THE NATURE OF THE PROBLEM, THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU CREATE THIS DEPARTMENT, EVEN THOUGH MOST OF THESE CRITICAL DETAILS HAVE NOT BEEN WORKED OUT, THEN YOU WILL CERTAINLY BE ASKED TO FUND POSITIONS IMMEDIATELY IN THE 2022 BUDGET.

SO IF YOU VOTE FOR THIS TODAY, YOU WILL SOON HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT ON YOUR HANDS WITH ALL THAT ENTAILS.

SO WE COME TO YOU ASKING FOR YOU TO VOTE NO, OR AT A MINIMUM POSTPONE THIS DECISION UNTIL YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. SMITH.

UH, DO WE HAVE MS. JOSEPH'S BACK? OKAY.

VERY WELL.

WHAT ABOUT, UH, MR. CONLEY? HELLO? I'M HERE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

IS THIS, UH, JP CONLEY? YES, THIS IS .

I'M THE ORGANIZING DIRECTOR FOR THE AUSTIN JUSTICE COALITION.

YEAH.

WELL, YOU'LL HAVE THREE, THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO SOME COMMUNITY TESTIMONY TODAY ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

I'M HERE TO JOIN MANY VOICES WHO HAVE ALREADY MADE MANY EXCELLENT POINTS, WHICH I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO REPEAT ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF POSTPONING ITEM B ONE, WHICH IS THE RESOLUTION THAT WOULD ESTABLISH THE CAPITAL METRO TRANSIT POLICE.

NO ONE IS DENYING THE NEED FOR SAFETY FOR EMPLOYEES AND CUSTOMERS.

THAT SAFETY IS CRUCIAL, BUT IT'S A NON-SEQUITUR TO SAY THAT BECAUSE WE NEED SAFETY THAT THEREFORE, WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW IS THE ONLY, OR THE BEST WAY TO ACHIEVE THAT SAFETY.

THERE'S A LOT MORE WORK AND THOUGHTS THAT NEEDS TO AND CAN GO INTO THIS.

AND MANY MORE MINDS FROM OUR COMMUNITY CAN AND SHOULD BE BROUGHT INTO THIS PROCESS.

ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE COMMISSION, I AM A MEMBER OF THE CITY'S POLICE REVIEW COMMISSION.

AND IN MY JOB AS A POLICE REVIEW COMMISSIONER, I SEE HOW DIFFICULT POLICE OVERSIGHT WORK CAN BE WITHOUT PROPER TOOLS AND REGULATIONS FOR ACCOUNTABILITY.

YOU KNOW, YOU NEED THINGS LIKE A GOOD BODY CAMERA POLICY.

YOU NEED TRANSPARENT COMPLAINT INTAKE PROCESS.

YOU NEED EVIDENCE GATHERING.

YOU NEED A PROCESS TO DISCIPLINE OFFICERS WHO VIOLATE POLICIES.

YOU NEED POLICE FORCES.

IF YOUR, IF YOUR POLICE FORCE HAS VERY LITTLE OVERSIGHT AND DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE OVERSIGHT PROCESS, THAT'S THOROUGHLY THOUGHT OUT YOUR POLICE FORCE WILL ANTAGONIZE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, PARTICULARLY BLACK AND BROWN FOLKS WHO MAKE UP YOUR CORE RIDERSHIP IN AUSTIN.

SO THE BOARD NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT HANDING OFF ALL OF THESE DECISIONS TO STAFF, BUT THAT IT IS THOROUGHLY REVIEWING WHAT IS ON THE TABLE AND WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.

THE BOARD NEEDS TO TAKE MUCH MORE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS BEFORE STAMPING APPROVAL.

PUBLIC SAFETY AMBASSADORS ARE EXCELLENT.

INTERVENTION SPECIALIST PROGRAMS ARE GREAT.

IDEAS ARE GREAT IDEAS.

UM, WE SUPPORT THOSE, BUT WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY IS NOT THAT WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THE CREATION OF AN ACTUAL POLICE FORCE, WHICH MEANS THE TAXPAYERS WILL NOW BE FUNDING.

ONE MORE POLICE FORCE IN THE AUSTIN METRO AREA.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TECH PAYERS IN AUSTIN FEEL ABOUT THIS, BUT REGARDLESS OF HOW WE FEEL ABOUT IT AS TAXPAYERS, WE CANNOT STAMP THE APPROVAL OF THIS BEFORE WE CAREFULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ON THE TABLE AND WHAT ARE THE PITFALLS, WHAT ARE THE DANGERS? SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD THE SALES PITCH.

NOW WE NEED TO LOOK THOROUGHLY AT WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED.

AND THERE'S A, A DARK OF ACCURATE DATA BEING PRESENTED TO US IN A TRANSPARENT WAY, AT LEAST TO US AS A COMMUNITY, AS AN OPEN COMMUNITY.

AND SO I HOPE THAT THE BOARD WILL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ASK DEEP QUESTIONS, TAKE A DEEP DIVE AND LOOK AT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, UM, AND A REALLY THOROUGH, CAREFUL WAY, BECAUSE ONCE YOU STOP THE APPROVAL OF THIS, THERE'S NO GOING BACK.

SO TAKE DON'T WASTE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

DON'T MISS THIS CHANCE TO REALLY DO THE WORK, TO TAKE THE TIME NEEDED TO GET IT RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR.

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CONLEY, ED, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK THAT I HAVEN'T CALLED UPON? THANK YOU.

THANKS EVERYBODY.

WE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS AND YOU TAKING TIME TO JOIN US AND, UH, AND TO, UH, UH, MAKE YOUR THOUGHTS KNOWN TO US.

UH, NEXT, UH, AS

[V.1. Approval of a resolution authorizing the establishment of the Capital Metro Transit Police Department, as a component of the Capital Metro Public Safety Division, to enhance service to Capital Metro customers and public safety.]

I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO SKIP AHEAD TO OUR ITEM AGENDA AND TAKE UP ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A TRANSIT POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A COMPONENT OF THE CAPITOL METRO PUBLIC SAFETY DIVISION, UH, IN ORDER TO ENHANCE SERVICE TO CAP METRO CUSTOMERS AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

UM, I THINK GARDNER TIBONE HAS OUR PRESENTATION STATS GARDNER.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

AND GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN COOPER, BOARD MEMBERS, PRESIDENT AND CEO CLARK, UH, PRIOR TO ASKING FOR AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH THIS TRANSIT POLICE DEPARTMENT, I'D LIKE TO PROVIDE YOU AND OUR, UH, ATTENDEES WITH PRESENTATION.

AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO SHARE IT NOW AND PLEASE TELL ME IF YOU CAN SEE THE PRESENTATION.

WE'RE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS GARDNER TAYVON AND SERVICE CAPITAL METRO'S EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF SAFETY OFFICER.

UH, PLEASE PRESENT YOU A TOTAL LOOK OF OUR CAPITOL METRO PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAM, AND A BIT ABOUT OUR APPROACH.

YOU'LL SEE, IN THE NEXT SLIDE, WE'RE TAKING A THREE PRONG APPROACH, UH, TO OUR DAILY CHALLENGES WITH REGARD TO DAILY OPERATIONS AT SERVICE CALLS, SPECIAL EVENTS AND CRITICAL TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO MORE ABOUT OUR THREE PRONGED APPROACH WITH SPECIFIC EMPHASIS AND FOCUS ON OUR INTERVENTION SPECIALIST.

AND I'LL GO INTO WHAT THEY DO A BIT LATER, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY AMBASSADOR, AS WELL AS TRANSIT POLICE, THAT YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, AUTHORIZE LATER.

SO PUBLIC SAFETY AMBASSADOR WHORES, UH, THE PRIMARY INTERFACE WITH THAT CUSTOMERS ARE PREPARED TO IDENTIFY ALL SAFETY ISSUES OR POLICY VIOLATIONS, UH, RESPOND AND OR BRING IN APPROPRIATE RESOURCES, UH, HELPING CUSTOMERS TO PURCHASE TICKETS, IDENTIFY SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS TO INFRASTRUCTURE, SUCH AS TRIPPING HAZARDS, CONNECTING PEOPLE WITH INTERVENTION SPECIALISTS OR CONTACTING POLICE WHERE NEEDED EMPHASIS ON WHERE NEEDED, UH, INTERVENTION SPECIALISTS, UH, DISPATCH AS NEEDED TO STATION STOPS AND VEHICLES OR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, EQUIPPED WITH SOCIAL SERVICE SKILLS AND TRAINING, UH, ABLE TO CONNECT PEOPLE WITH NECESSARY SOCIAL SERVICES THAT THEY MAY NEED ASSISTING WITH TRAINING, OTHER STAFF AND OPERATORS, AND LASTLY TRANSIT POLICE.

THEY WILL BE DISPATCHED AS NEEDED FOR SPECIFIC ESCALATED PUBLIC SAFETY SITUATION.

THEY WILL BE EQUIPPED WITH SOCIAL SERVICE SKILLS AND APPROPRIATE TRAINING AS PREPARED TO SELL A FAIR TICKET OR TO WRITE A CITATION.

IT WILL BE INVOLVED IN ONGOING TRANSIT, SPECIFIC PUBLIC SAFETY DRILLS, AND OTHER TRAINING.

THERE'LL BE A PRIMARY RESOURCE AGAINST TRANSIT RELATED TERRORISM AS WELL.

TRANSIT POLICE AGAIN, UH, THE BOARD ACTION, UH, WILL BE REQUESTED LATER TODAY, WHICH IS WHY I'M HERE.

UH, THIS FUNCTION IS CURRENTLY PROVIDED THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UH, THERE'LL BE DEDICATED AND SPECIALIZED RESOURCES, UH, TO BE RECOMMENDED FOR CAPITAL METRO MOVING FORWARD.

SO CURRENTLY OUR TOP FIVE EMERGENCY CALLS INCLUDE A GENERAL REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE.

PLEASE PROVIDE POLICE PRESENCE REQUESTED FOR, UH, A VARIETY OF

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REASONS, LOITERING, UH, MISCELLANEOUS, SUCH AS NO MASK OR MASK RELATED.

UH, IF THERE'S A DISTURBANCE, WHETHER IT'S VERBAL OR PHYSICAL AND IT'S TO CHECK THE WELFARE OF AN INDIVIDUAL, AN INDIVIDUAL THAT MAY BE SLEEPING, UH, AT ONE OF OUR STOPS OR, UH, INCLUDING ONE OF OUR BUSES PUBLIC SAFETY ACTIVITIES, FISCAL YEAR 2021.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON UPDATING OUR APPROACH TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND IT STARTED EARLY 2020.

SO IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE HIRED TWO COMMUNITY INTERVENTION SPECIALISTS.

WE HIRED A PUBLIC SAFETY AMBASSADOR, UH, SUPERVISOR WE'RE HIRING WE'RE IN A PROCESS OF HIRING 15 PUBLIC SAFETY AMBASSADORS AND THE AMERICAN AMERICAN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ASSOCIATION, OR APTA CONDUCTED A PEER PEER REVIEW.

YOU'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT, BUT LATER IN PRESENTATION, AND WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH NUMEROUS STAKEHOLDERS THROUGHOUT THE REGION, AND WE'VE ALSO CONDUCTED AN OPERATOR AND CUSTOMER SURVEY MORE ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT.

SO AGAIN, UH, APTA CAME TO US AT FIRST PART OF THIS YEAR AT OUR REQUEST, UH, TO CONDUCT A REVIEW A, UM, A PEER REVIEW STAKEHOLDER AND POLICY INTERVIEWS WERE HELD A CUSTOMER AT OPERATOR SURVEY.

AS I SAID BEFORE, WAS CONDUCTED STAKEHOLDER BRIEFINGS, UH, COMMITTEE BRIEFINGS, OUR D E N I COUNCIL XS, AND C-SAT COUNCILS WERE BRILLIANT COMMITTEES FOR BRIDGE.

SO MORE ABOUT THE AFTER PEER REVIEW, THE PEER REVIEW PANEL WAS CONVENED TO CONDUCT AN ANALYSIS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE THE CAPITAL METRO PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAM.

THERE WAS AN OBSERVATION, ONE OF MANY, THERE IS NO ONE SIZE FITS ALL POLICING MODEL FOR TRANSIT AGENCIES.

METHODOLOGY INCLUDED A REVIEW OF THE STATE OF THE INDUSTRY AND INTERVIEWS OF LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING CAPITAL METRO, WORKFORCE ADVOCATES AND POLICY MAKERS.

UH, HERE'S SOME KEY FINDINGS, JUST THREE OF THEM.

UM, HAVE MANY CAPITAL METRO IS IN AN ENVIABLE POSITION TO ESTABLISH AN IN-HOUSE TRANSIT POLICE MODEL.

THAT BLENDS ELEMENTS THAT WILL ENHANCE THE PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAM.

THAT IS TO SAY, UH, COMMUNITY INTERVENTION, COUNSELORS, AND PUBLIC SAFETY AMBASSADORS.

THERE WAS AN OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FROM UNION MEMBERS, CAPITAL METRO STAFF, STAKEHOLDERS, AND BOARD MEMBERS TOWARD IN-HOUSE TRANSIT POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE A PART OF THE CAPITAL METRO PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAM.

THE PLAN SYSTEM EXPANSION COMMUNITY DESIRE FOR ACCOUNTABILITY AND EQUITABLE SERVICES AND THE SHORTAGE OF AVAILABLE APD OFFICES, OUR REASONS FOR CREATING A TRANSIT POLICE CONTINGENT.

SO THE PUBLIC SAFETY SURVEY, UH, WAS CONDUCTED IN SPRING OF 2021.

SO 500 TOTAL 570 TOTAL SURVEYS WERE COMPLETED.

UM, 164 WITH CAPITAL METRO OPERATORS IN FRONTLINE STAFF, 63% OF THEM OR BUS OPERATOR, 406 WITH CAPITAL METRO CUSTOMERS.

MAJORITY ARE FREQUENT FREQUENT RIDERS.

AT LEAST ONCE PER WEEK, 48 ROUTES WERE REPRESENTED AND A RESPONSE ALL RIDE THE BUS AND 5% ALSO RIDE THE TRAIN.

DO YOU FIND 80% OF OUR CUSTOMERS? STATE SECURITY IS GOOD AND DO NOT SEEM TO FAULT CAPITOL METRO FOR SAFETY ISSUES.

THEY WOULD FEEL SAFER WITH MORE CAMERAS AND VISIBLE SECURITY, SYMBOLS, UNIFORM CAPITAL, METRO STAFF, AND OR POLICE OFFICERS.

63% OF FRONTLINE STAFF DO SECURITY AS NEEDING IMPROVEMENT.

STAFF FEEL UNSAFE WHILE WORKING, AND THAT'S 30% AND AT, UH, BUS STOPS AND STATIONS, 24% FRONTLINE STAFF WENT TO SEE A POLICE OFFICERS AND OR UNIFORMED STAFF

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TO CREATE A SENSE OF SECURITY ON THE VEHICLES.

AND AT STATION UNSAFE PASSENGER BEHAVIOR IS THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF MOST OF THE STATION CONCERNS EMPLOYEES AND CUSTOMERS HAVE.

AND SURVEY KEY FINDINGS CONTINUED SURVEY PARTICIPANTS INDICATE CAPITAL METRO IS, SHOULD CONSIDERING FREEZING VISIBLE SECURITY MEASURES SUCH AS UNIFORM SECURITY, ESPECIALLY ON ROUTES, UH, WITH MORE CALLS FOR SERVERS.

THIS PROVIDES DETERRENCE PREVENTION AND MORE TIMELY RESPONSE WORK WITH EMPLOYEES TO IMPLEMENT BLAME, BE SURE TO INCLUDE A STRONG MARKETING PLAN TO ALERT THE COMMUNITY OF INCREASED SAFETY MEASURES.

KEY QUESTIONS WE'VE HEARD.

UH, DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE THAT USE OF THAT? WE HAVE TO USE THE TERM POLICE.

YES.

POLICE MUST IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AS POLICE FOR THE SAKE OF CLEAR IDENTIFICATION TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO COVER THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THEIR SERVICES.

I KNOW THE QUESTION IS WHAT TYPES OF, UH, POLICIES WILL THE POLICE OFFICERS FOLLOW? IN ADDITION TO THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS, UH, TO FOLLOWING A REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE LAW, WE WILL WORK WITH CONSULTANTS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO IDENTIFY AND SHAPE SPECIFIC POLICIES, TRAININGS, AND STANDARDS FOR THE POLICE.

SO WHAT DOES OVERSIGHT LOOK LIKE? THE CAPITAL METRO BOARD WILL APPOINT A PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THERE WILL BE AN AUDIT OVERSIGHT FUNCTION THAT REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD IN SUMMARY CAPITOL METRO'S PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAM, AIMS TO PROTECT CAPITAL METRO STAFF, ITS CUSTOMERS, AND THE COMMUNITY FROM HARM USING MULTIPLE INTEGRATED STRATEGY.

TRANSIT POLICING IS A SPECIALIZED SERVICE AND A SPECIALIZED AND DEDICATED POLICE TRANSIT POLICE DEPARTMENT IS NECESSARY TO BEST SERVE OUR CUSTOMERS, STAFF AND PUBLIC SAFETY AT LARGE, UH, CUSTOMERS AND STAFF HAVE INDICATED SUPPORT TO DATE AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE ENGAGED AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS, UH, THIS PROCESS SORT OF BOARD ACTION REQUESTED AUTHORIZES STAFF TO CONTINUE THIS WORK, UH, BRING THE COMMUNITY ALONG WITH THE PROCESS TO ESTABLISH COMMUNITY ORIENTED TRANSIT POLICE, WHICH IS ANTICIPATED TO TAKE MORE THAN 18 MONTHS.

SUMMARY OF THE RESOLUTION ENGAGE A CONSULTANT TO GUIDE DEVELOPMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION ENGAGED GAP.

METRO D E N I A COUNCIL AND BOARD COMMITTEE DEVELOP AND DEVELOP A PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, CHARTER AND APPOINTMENT, UH, PROCESS FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION DEVELOP A STAFF TRAINING PROGRAM AND PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS BASED ON INPUT FROM INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE CREATE A PROCESS BY WHICH POLICE AUDITING AND OVERSIGHT IS ADDRESSED, INCLUDE FUNDING AND THE FYI 2022, UH, OPERATING BUDGET TO CONTINUE THE WORK NEXT STEPS AFTER APPROVAL, ENGAGE CONSULTANTS WITH SIGNIFICANT TRANSIT POLICING EXPERIENCE TO GUIDE, UH, PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT AND LONG RANGE FINANCIAL PLAN IF Y 22 BUDGET TO INCLUDE PUBLIC SAFETY AMBASSADORS, INTERVENTION SPECIALISTS, AND POSITIONS WITHIN POLICE DEPARTMENT REPORT BACK TO THE BOARD ON PROGRESS IN EARLY 20, 22 AND PERIODICALLY THROUGHOUT ITS IMPLEMENTATION.

OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, CONSULTANT THAT'LL BE COMING ON BOARD UPON APPROVAL IS A FORMER CHIEF WANDA DUNHAM, AND SHE RETIRED FROM MARTA OR METROPOLITAN ATLANTA, RAPID TRANSIT AUTHORITY.

UH, THE NINTH LARGEST TRANSIT AGENCY SERVING 947

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SQUARE MILES, INCLUDING, UH, CLAYTON TO CABIN AND FULTON COUNTIES.

UH, SHE SERVED 14 YEARS AS AGM OR ASSISTANT GENERAL MANAGER AND CHIEF OF POLICE AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

SHE LED A 400 PLUS MEMBER POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDING SECURITY FROM MULTIPLE FACILITIES, UH, STATIONS, BUSES, MOBILITY, AND LIGHT RAIL, ACTUALLY RAIL THROUGHOUT THE SERVICE AREA, UH, WITH A TOTAL OF 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE, FUTURE, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES INCLUDE WHAT WE WANT TO INFORM CUSTOMERS AND STAFF ABOUT OUR APPROACH TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO INFLUENCE DIRECTION.

WHAT TYPES, UH, WE'LL BE ASKING, WHAT TYPES OF CHARACTERISTICS DO YOU SEE, UH, THAT, THAT DO YOU THINK MAKE A GOOD POLICE CHIEF? WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF POLICE TRAINING PROGRAMS THAT ARE GETTING IT RIGHT? OPPORTUNITIES TO REVIEW PROPOSED, UM, POLICIES AND STANDARDS, MULTIPLE FREQUENT CHECK-INS WITH DEN, I COUNSELED TRANSIT SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE COMMUNICATIONS TO THE BROADER PUBLIC ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN MORE AND PARTICIPATE, ENGAGE PARTNERS, AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES TO BOLSTER RELATIONSHIP AND GUIDE PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT.

AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

AND THAT MAY JUST UNSHARE THIS.

UM, SO I'M OPEN TO TAKING WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OF ME AT THIS TIME.

UH, OH, REMEMBER KITCHEN.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

UM, I KNOW YOU'VE, UM, BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND YOU'VE PROBABLY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION BEFORE AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT I'M TRYING TO RECALL, UH, ONE OF THE, THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS RAISED, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION IS, IS THE THINKING THAT THE, UM, THAT THE TRANSIT POLICE WOULD, WOULD BE CARRYING WEAPONS? YES.

UH, THE TRANSIT POLICE, AS THEY, AS OUR TRANSIT SECURITY CURRENTLY, DOES THEY? THEY WILL CARRY WEAPONS.

YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UH, YES SIR.

REMEMBER RENTERIA.

OKAY.

HOW MUCH DO, HOW MANY OFFICERS DO WE PRESENTLY HAVE WORKING FOR US AS POLICE OFFICERS RIGHT NOW AND WHAT IS OUR YEARLY BUDGET FOR? SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE OVER 100 PART-TIME THAT ARE IN, UH, A ROTATION OF SORTS.

UM, I DO NOT HAVE THE BUDGET NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME.

I DO APOLOGIZE.

I CAN GET THAT TO YOU IN SHORT ORDER THOUGH.

AND, AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, NOT ALL 100 ARE USED, THEY ARE JUST PRETTY MUCH ON A LIST AND YOU PULL FROM THAT LIST AND YEAH, I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO REALIZE THAT WE'RE RIGHT NOW ARE USING POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE ARMED AND THAT ARE APD OR WHATEVER.

ARE THERE ARE CERTIFIED POLICE OFFICERS RIGHT NOW? YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

CORRECT.

THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

THANKS, MR. TAYVON FOR A REALLY GOOD, UM, OVERVIEW AND SUMMARY.

I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING.

IT'S BEEN MORE THAN A YEAR, I THINK.

IS THAT RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO I'VE BEEN, UH, GIVEN THE AWESOME RESPONSIBILITIES SINCE ABOUT JANUARY, BUT THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS.

AND CAN YOU, UM, EITHER DIRECT ME TO A LIST OF THE VARIOUS COMMUNITY GROUPS AND STAKEHOLDERS THAT YOU TALKED WITH, IS IT IN YOUR REPORT, IN THE BACKUP, OR DO YOU HAVE A SH UM, A TOP LINE YOU COULD SHARE, UH, TO SHOW THE EXPANSE OF INVOLVEMENT FROM THE COMMITTEE? YES.

UH, WE, UH, HAVE A LIST AND WE CAN, UH, PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.

I HAVE A FEW FOLKS LISTENING IN THAT CAN ASSIST WITH THAT, UH, IN SHORT ORDER, BUT YES, IT WAS, UH, NUMEROUS, UH, INDIVIDUALS, UH, AROUND THE, UM, AROUND THE REGION.

GREAT.

UM, I UNDERSTAND ANECDOTALLY THAT THAT'S AT SOME POINTS, OUR, UH, BUS DRIVERS HAVE BEEN CONCERNED

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FOR THEIR SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF PASSENGERS.

UM, AND THE RESPONSE TIME TO GETTING, UH, UH, APD OFFICER TO THE PLACE HAS, UM, INCREASED THE LEVELS OF ANXIETY.

COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT AND, AND KIND OF GIVE US THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THAT AND, AND THE, UH, THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND HAVING A CAP, METRO TRANSIT POLICE SLASH AMBASSADOR CONTRACT? SURE, SURE, SURE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION, UH, TO, TO BEGIN WITH THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION.

UM, THERE ARE NUMEROUS INSTANCES AND I LIKE TO SAY, UH, THANK YOU TO APD FOR BEING A GOOD PARTNER FIRST AND FOREMOST.

UH, BUT THEY HAVE CONSTRAINTS, RIGHT? THEY HAVE LIMITATIONS AND RESOURCES BEING ONE OF THEM AS A RESULT, WHEN WE DO GET CERTAIN CALLS, WE'RE NOT ALWAYS ABLE TO, UM, RESPOND PERHAPS IN A TIME THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE THEM RESPOND.

AND SO THAT'S, UM, EXASPERATES TO A DEGREE, THE ISSUES THAT MAY BE OCCURRING ON A BUS AND, OR A TRAIN OR AT ONE OF OUR FACILITIES.

SO AGAIN, IT'S ABOUT, UH, BEING ABLE TO HAVE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT USE OF OUR RESOURCES.

UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF WHERE, YOU KNOW, UM, INDIVIDUALS MAY NOT BE BEHAVING AS, UH, WE'D LIKE THEM TO, UH, AT ONE OF OUR FACILITIES OR BUSES.

AND WE REALLY NEED A MUCH QUICKER RESPONSE TIME.

WE NEED PEOPLE WHO ARE DEDICATED TO OUR ORGANIZATION.

UH, WE REALIZED THAT THEY ARE APD OFFICERS FIRST.

AND, UH, IF THEY'RE, UM, IF THEIR ORGANIZATION REQUIRES THEM TO WORK A PARTICULAR SHIFT OR OVERTIME THAT THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO GO THERE, UH, WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A DEDICATED FOR US, WHICH WILL NOT BE ANYWHERE NEAR THE SIZE OF THEIR FORCE.

I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO HAVE NEAR THE SAME NUMBERS.

IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE, UH, UM, IT'D BE A MUCH SMALLER FORCE TRANSIT FOCUS.

WE'LL BE TRAVELING, UH, THEY'LL BE MONITORING ACTIVITIES, UH, OF OUR VEHICLES THAT GET TO, AND THROUGH VERY MANY COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND THE EMPHASIS, UH, PERHAPS IF I COULD JUST SHARE A BIT MORE WILL BE TO USE FIRST AND FOREMOST, OUR COMMUNITY INTERVENTION SPECIALIST, AS WELL AS, UM, OUR PSA'S THE PUBLIC SAFETY AMBASSADORS.

SO THAT WAY WE WON'T HAVE TO USE, UM, POLICE, UM, TO, TO INTERVENE, BUT THERE WILL BE OCCASION WHERE AN OFFICER'S NEEDED.

IT'S ABOUT PROTECTION OF, UH, PEOPLE LIKE MY MIND.

OKAY.

UH, WHO IS ELDERLY AND MANDATE IS THIS IT'S, IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, OF ALL AGES THAT RIDE OUR, OUR VEHICLES.

AND THAT'S THE MAIN FOCUS, UM, JUST TO WRAP UP.

UM, IT OCCURS TO ME THAT, UM, THAT PIECE RIGHT THERE, THE IMPORTANT, THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFETY FOR ALL WHO RIDE EITHER THE RAILS OR THE BUSES, UM, WILL, UM, HELP US TO ACTUALLY INCREASE THE CHANCES OF PEOPLE RUNNING OF OUR RIDERSHIP.

I THINK THE MORE PEOPLE FEEL SAFE, UM, IT'S NOT JUST THE PREDICTABILITY OF THE SCHEDULE AND, AND ITS ARRIVAL AND NOT BEING LATE AND DELIVERING YOUR, WHEN IT, WHEN THE SCHEDULE SAYS YOU WILL BE DELIVERED, IT'S ALSO ENSURING THAT, THAT YOU ARE COMPLETELY SAFE WHEN YOU ARE, UM, IN OUR CARE.

ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UH, I THINK, UH, BOARD MEMBER TREVELYAN YES, SIR.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? I CAN HEAR YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, WHEN I, WHEN I LISTENED TO THE QUESTIONS, UM, OF THE, OF THE, UH, PROPOSAL, UH, IT, IT ALMOST MADE IT SEEM AS IF THIS WAS THE END OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE, GIVE YOU FEEDBACK AND GIVE AN, EXPLAIN THEIR EXPECTATIONS.

AND I WANT TO KNOW WHETHER WE CAN SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE ALL OF THOSE GROUPS THAT WERE MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY, INCLUDE THEM, ASK FOR THEIR INVOLVEMENT AND WORK WITH THEM OVER THE COURSE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND WHEN WE DEVELOP THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, WILL THEY BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR RATIFICATION? SO, SIR, AGAIN, I CAN TELL YOU, AS I STATED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION THAT THE BOARD WILL BE RESPONSIBLE

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IN LARGE PART FOR APPOINTING INDIVIDUALS TO THE, UM, TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

UH, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO HEARING, UH, ALL CONCERNS FROM THE VERY MANY BODIES WHO, UH, PROVIDED US WITH SOME ONE, UH, EARLIER IN THIS, UH, SESSION.

UM, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT WE ALREADY HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH A FEW OF THE GROUPS THAT, UH, PRESENTED AND, UH, WE ARE MORE THAN OPEN TO HAVING ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS.

I JUST WANT TO, I JUST WANT TO ESTABLISH, I WANT TO STICK A PIN IN, UH, THE, THE, AND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER AS WE GO FORWARD, WE ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK FOR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT OR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT HAS BEEN CUT OFF AT THIS POINT.

UH, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IS NOT, UH, BEEN CUT OFF AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S REALLY GOING TO START PICKING UP AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE REALLY GOING TO NEED THEIR INPUT ON CERTAIN ITEMS, UH, TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD.

BECAUSE AS, AS I ALSO STATED IN THE PRESENTATION, IT'S GOING TO TAKE OVER 18 MONTHS TO DEVELOP.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE TURN AROUND AND WE HAVE, UH, 25 POLICE OFFICERS, UH, IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO DEVELOP WE GOING TO NEED THEIR INPUT, UM, WITH THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE ALREADY PROVIDED IN THE PRESENTATION.

THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S NO SMOKE, THERE'S NO MIRRORS HERE.

THIS IS VERY GENUINE.

WE, UH, CARE VERY, VERY MUCH FOR OUR SYSTEM AND FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.

AND MOST OF ALL, OUR MOST PRECIOUS RESOURCES, UH, OUR OPERATORS, FRONTLINE STAFF, CONDUCTORS, ENGINEERS, YOU NAME IT.

SO I HOPE THAT MAKES SENSE.

I JUST WANT IT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE PUBLIC COMMENT WASN'T ALL, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CRYSTAL.

THANK YOU.

A MEMBER OF BOARD MEMBER KITCHEN.

UM, YES, I THINK, UM, UH, I, UH, APPRECIATE THAT, UM, THAT QUESTION, UM, UH, VICE CHAIR.

TREVELYAN THAT'S THAT'S WAS MY QUESTION.

UM, ALSO, UM, I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE LANGUAGE OF THIS RESOLUTION AND TO BE COMFORTABLE VOTING ON THIS RESOLUTION, I WOULD WANT THE, WANT THE STATEMENT THAT YOU JUST ARTICULATED A VICE-CHAIR 2 BILLION TO BE ACTUALLY WRITTEN INTO THE RESOLUTION.

ALTERNATIVELY, UM, PERHAPS WE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, AUTHORIZING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF, YOU KNOW, UH, OF A NEW DIVISION AS PART OF OUR BUDGET.

SO WE COULD TRY TO WORDSMITH RIGHT NOW TO ADD THAT LANGUAGE TO THIS RESOLUTION, OR WE COULD JUST MOVE THIS ITEM TO VOTE ON IT WHEN WE VOTE ON THE BUDGET, WHICH I THINK IS AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, I DO WANT TO TELL YOU MR. DAVON, THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.

UM, AND, UM, AND I KNOW YOU'VE WORKED VERY HARD, SO I, I DON'T WANT TO SLOW THINGS DOWN, BUT, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CAPTURE IN WRITING WHAT YOUR INTENT IS AND WHAT, UM, MR. TREVELYAN MENTIONED.

SO CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE SOME TIME TO TRY TO WORDSMITH THAT ON THE DYES, OR IF, LET ME JUST ASK MR. DAVON COULD, COULD WE, IF WE POSTPONE THIS TILL, I THINK IT'S THE END OF SEPTEMBER WHEN WE ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE BUDGET, IF WE DID THAT TO GIVE OURSELVES TIME TO, YOU KNOW, WRITE THE KIND OF LANGUAGE, THAT'S THE INTENT INTO THE RESOLUTION, IS THAT GOING TO SLOW YOU DOWN? COULD YOU DO THAT? I THINK THAT'S ONLY TWO WEEKS OR SO.

UM, IT WILL PROVIDE, UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE DID SOME MILESTONES THAT WE DID HAVE IN PLACE.

HOWEVER, I THINK RANDY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME, YOU JUMP IN TO HELP YOU WITH THAT.

IT WAS A QUESTION FOR YOU.

I'M SORRY.

UM, UH, PRESIDENT CLARK, IF I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YOU THAT QUESTION, BUT, UH, THAT'S OKAY.

BUT REMEMBER, I, UM, I GUESS MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ARTICULATE WHAT EXACTLY YOU LIKE IN THERE, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN THE RESOLUTION, SO I CAN, THAT'S WHAT I WAS AT.

AND I, WE THOUGHT THAT THAT MAY COVER EXACTLY WHAT BOARD MEMBER TREVELYAN MENTIONED, BUT, UH, IF YOU THINK THAT IT NEEDS A SLIGHT TWEAK, WE COULD DO THAT BECAUSE IT DOES TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

UH, AND AS, UH, GARDNER MENTIONED, THIS IS KIND OF, UH, INITIATING THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS MORE THAN WE'RE WE'RE CERTAINLY FAR AWAY FROM INCLUDING ANY PROCESS SO I CAN READ.

OKAY.

UH, IT SAYS, UH, YEAH, THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

SO WE HAVE TO DEVELOP A STAFF TRAINING PROGRAM, PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS FOR MEMBERS OF THE TRANS POLICE WITH INPUT FROM INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT SHALL INCLUDE INITIAL AND CONTINUOUS TRAINING.

SO THERE'S THAT WHOLE PART NUMBER FOUR SAYS IN COLLABORATION WITH THE AFFIRMATION ADVISORY GROUPS DEVELOP A PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE,

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CHARTER AND ADVISORY APPOINTMENT PROCESS THAT WE WOULD BRING TO THE CAB METRO BOARD FOR APPROVAL AND APPOINTMENTS.

SO THE CONCEPT IS YOU ALL KIND OF LIKE, SEE SAC AND ACCESS WOULD FORM A NEW PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THAT CHARTER WOULD BE A WAY TO TALK ABOUT THE ROLES, RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT COMMITTEE AND, UH, UH, NOMINATING AND, AND PROCESS TO PUT PEOPLE ON THAT COMMITTEE.

SO THOSE PARTS ARE ALL COMMUNITY DRIVEN BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PUBLIC PROCESS THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE, TO BRING THEM BACK TO THE BOARD FOR YOU ALL, TO APPROVE A CHARTER, THEN SELECT INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD REPRESENT YOU ALL ON THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE THEN HELPS GARDNER AND, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY TEAM FLUSH OUT THE TRAINING AND POLICY PIECE.

SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE TODAY, IS YOU TELLING US, YES, WE ARE GOING FORWARD, THEN IT'S OKAY.

NOW WE CAN GET A CONSULTANT ON BOARD, START THE PROCESS WITH A JOB DESCRIPTION FOR A CHIEF, CAUSE WE NEED AT LEAST ONE PERSON TO ACTUALLY START UP THE OPERATION, GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY DIFFERENT PROCESS OF THE ADVISORY PROCESS THAT LEADS TO THEN POLICIES RELATED TO ABOUT TRAINING AND ON AND ON AND ON.

SO SOME OF THOSE MAY NOT COME TOGETHER UNTIL EVEN NEXT SUMMER, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE SPECTRUM OF THE PROCESS.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, BUT IF YOU THOUGHT THERE WAS WORDS RELATED TO FOUR OR FIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT MIGHT HELP FURTHER THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS REALLY AROUND NUMBER FOUR, FIVE AND SIX, ABOUT INTERNAL AFFAIRS OVERSIGHT TRAINING AND PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

SO HAPPY TO HAVE ANY SUGGESTED, UH, UH, COMMENTS RELATED TO THAT.

WELL, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, PRESIDENT CLARK, BUT, UM, ALL THAT YOU EXPLAINED IS NOT WRITTEN INTO THIS RESOLUTION.

AND, UM, IT'S JUST IMPORTANT SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THAT WE ACTUALLY PUT TO WRITING WHAT THE INTENT IS.

A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THERE'S NO TIMELINE ON THIS.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF COURSE, IS TO CREATE THIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE QUICKLY.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU JUST READ THE WORDS, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T SAY WHEN THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WOULD, WOULD OCCUR.

AND IT ALSO DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T SPECIFY THAT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WOULD WEIGH IN ON A BUNCH OF THESE DECISIONS.

SO OF COURSE THAT LEAVES A QUESTION MARK, IN THE PUBLIC'S MIND AS TO THE SCOPE OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL DECISION-MAKING PROCESS.

SO THAT'S ONE AREA THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, TO PUT SOME LANGUAGE AROUND.

THE SECOND THING IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WELL VICE-CHAIR, TREVELYAN WHEN HE GETS BACK, WELL, LET ME JUST SAVE THAT FOR WHEN HE COMES BACK.

BUT, UM, SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS.

THE OTHER THING IS THIS DOES MORE THAN, THAN, UH, PROVIDE, UH, MR. DUBON THE ABILITY TO KEEP ON TRACK, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND I AGREE THAT HE NEEDS