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SINCE REDISTRICTING COMMISSION

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MEETING THIS

[Independent Citizen's Redistricting Commission]

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH, MATT, CAN YOU PLEASE DO ROLL CALL? YEAH.

DID YOU WANT ME TO START OVER? OKAY.

SURE THING.

IT IS 6:04 PM.

WE HAVE 10 OUT OF 14 COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.

I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE INDEPENDENT CITIZENS REDISTRICTING COMMISSION MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH, MATT, CAN YOU PLEASE DO ROLL CALL COMMISSIONER KANAAN MORRIS HERE.

HARDEN SCHNEIDER DEMPSEY GONZALEZ LANDS LEE.

KAMBO CALLED THEIR OWN BLANK AND FELL CONE HERE.

SO WE HAVE A CORNER.

THANK YOU, MATT.

CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE US THROUGH TODAY'S AGENDA? OKAY.

SO MEETING GOALS FOR TODAY, DISCUSSION ON PRESENT PRESENTED PRESENTATION OF DRAFT MAPS, DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC FORUM STRUCTURE, RECEIVE UPDATES FROM WORKING GROUPS, SUBCOMMITTEES ALL THE ORDER OR SOCIAL COMMUNICATION.

UH, NOBODY HAS SIGNED UP FOR A CITIZEN COMMUNICATION UNLESS SOMEBODY SIGNED UP AS THEY CAME IN.

UM, I DON'T WANT APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

I DON'T REMEMBER TO UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

THE SERC MAY DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS, A DISCUSSION ON PUBLIC FORUMS, STRUCTURE AND PROTOCOLS B UPDATES FROM WORKING GROUPS SUBCOMMITTEES, THE ONE COMMUNICATIONS WORKING GROUP B TO PUBLIC FORUM WORKING GROUP B THREE FINANCE.

SO COMMITTEE BEFORE FINAL REPORT COMMITTEE ITEM THREE, NEW BUSINESS, THE ICRC MAY DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS, A PRESENTATION OF MAP FROM THE NAACP HISPANIC COALITION B PRESENTATION OF DRAFT MAP BY GEORGE KORBEL ICRC MAPPING SPECIALIST, SEE DISCUSSION OF DRAFT MAP PRESENTED BY KORBEL D HOUSEKEEPING, UH, AND THAT FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

MA'AM SO WE GET ANY FURTHER THIS EVENING.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW THINGS, UM, A FEW HOUSE KEEPING ITEMS, FIRST OF ALL, PLEASE KEEP YOUR MASKS ON UNLESS WE'RE SPEAKING OR, UM, IN COMMISSIONERS CASES, EATING.

UM, AND THEN WE JUST WANT TO PUT THE MASK RIGHT BACK ON.

I WILL CALL A 10 MINUTE BREAK EVERY HOUR AND A HALF OR SO, AND I PROPOSE AN END TIME OF ABOUT 11:00 PM TONIGHT.

IT MAY NOT NEED TO GO THAT LATE, BUT I WOULD SAY LET'S NOT DO IT LATER THAN THAT.

I'M ALSO OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS FROM THE GROUP.

UM, I WILL CHECK IN WITH YOU AGAIN AFTER A BREAK TO SEE WHERE WE ALL ARE.

AND I ALSO WANT TO HAVE JUST A FEW ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT TO JOIN US.

AS WE EMBARK ON THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS OF DRAWING OUR CITY COUNCIL BOUNDARIES.

UM, PLEASE KNOW THAT THIS IS THE FIRST STEP OF, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF SEVEN MORE WEEKS OF VOLUNTEER WORK BY THE ICRC AND TO THE NAACP AND HISPANIC COALITION.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TO US TONIGHT WITH YOUR IDEAS FOR DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FOUR, AND THANK YOU TO OUR ADMINISTRATIVE MANAGER, CHRISTINE GRANADOS FOR HER WORK ON THE DOCUMENT THAT HAS COMPILED ALL OF THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY UP TO THIS POINT BECAUSE OF HER WORK, WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT WE HAVE HOSTED 105 ATTENDEES IN ICRC.

PUBLIC FORUMS LISTENED TO 48, SPEAKERS COLLECTED 50 MAPS, 87 EMAILS, AND TWO VOICE MESSAGES FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND THANK YOU, MATT FOR SECURING THIS MEETING SPACE AND OUR DINNERS SO THAT WE HAVE THE ENERGY TO CARRY US THROUGH THIS IMPORTANT MEETING.

SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A FEW GROUND RULES FOR DISCUSSIONS THIS EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

WHEN MAKING A SUGGESTION ABOUT THE MAP, PLEASE REFER TO SECTION THREE OF THE CHARTER.

UM, WHAT HAPPENS TO ELECTIONS OR ELECTED OFFICIALS AS A RESULT OF OUR WORK THAT IS NOT UNDER OUR CONSIDERATION AS AGREED UPON.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO ABIDE BY ROBERT'S RULES AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE.

AND IF YOU HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT A PARTICULAR ISSUE, JUST GIVE

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ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THIS COMMISSION.

IF WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THEM YET.

UM, AND YOU CANNOT, WELL, SOMEONE ELSE IS STILL SPEAKING SIGNAL THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK NEXT.

PLEASE ADDRESS THE CHAIR WHEN YOU WANT TO SPEAK AND YOU WILL BE RECOGNIZED.

AND FINALLY, IN TERMS OF PROCESS, LET ME SAY THAT TONIGHT IS ONLY A FIRST PASS AT PRELIMINARY MAPS.

THE WORK WILL CONTINUE INTO THE NEXT WEEK FOR PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.

I'LL POINT OUT THAT THE DOCUMENTS YOU SEE IN THE MEETING TONIGHT WILL SOON BE AVAILABLE AS BACKUP DOCUMENTS ON THE CITY SITE.

UNDER ICRCS MEETING DOCUMENTS, WE'LL WORK THROUGH THE MAP CHANGES NEXT WEEK ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH, BASED ON DISCUSSIONS HELD THIS EVENING AND, UM, IN RECORDED INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH MR. PORTAL THAT WILL OCCUR LATER THIS WEEK, THE GOAL IS TO ENTER NEXT.

WEEK'S MEETING WITH AN IDEA OF TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION THAT WILL BE LISTED ON THE AGENDA FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE AND PREPARE ANY TESTIMONY THEY MAY HAVE ON THAT TOPIC.

WE DO ALL OF THIS STRIVING TO MAINTAIN FULL TRANSPARENCY WITH THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE MAPPING PROCESS FOR OUR 10 CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS.

WE MAY ALSO MEET ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH.

IF WE HAVE NOT APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY MAPS ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH, WE WILL HOLD THE FIRST OF FIVE PUBLIC FORUMS FOR THE PRELIMINARY MAP ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH, ONCE ADOPTED, UM, OR RATHER APPROVED, UH, THE MAP WILL GO UP ON OUR WEBSITES AND WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FEATURE AVAILABLE AS WELL ON SPEAK OF AUSTIN.

SO WITH ALL OF THAT IN MIND, WE WILL BEGIN CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

UH, BUT MATT, YOU SAID THAT NO ONE HAD SIGNED UP TODAY BEYOND OUR, UM, PLANNED PRESENTATION.

WE HAVE A FEW.

OH, OKAY.

OF COURSE.

SO IS IT WHO'S ON THIS, THIS RIGHT HERE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO I HAVE, UM, MR. BRAD PARSONS FROM DISTRICT 10, JUST TO REMINDER, UM, EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND JUST CLEARLY STATE YOUR NAME.

WE WELCOME ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OUR MEETING TONIGHT.

WELCOME.

I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK RIGHT.

I TOLD HER FIRST, UM, AND THAT'S FINE FROM SCHOOL, BUT, UH, UM, I WANT TO MAKE TWO POINTS.

YES, BY WAY.

UM, THE FIRST THREE CAN BE RESPECTED AND STILL RESPECT PRECINCT.

AND THIS IS A PART OF ALLEN SLID OFF.

I DON'T THINK THAT ALSO, UM, THE OTHER ONE IS 2 46.

OUR AREA RIGHT NOW IS BLANCA MIDDLE WHERE ANDERSON HIGH SCHOOL IS.

AND ALL OF THE AREAS IN THE AREA THEY'RE THERE TOGETHER.

THERE WAS, UM, 2 46 AND THEN IN THE MILWAUKEE AREA OR THE BCA AREA FOR A LONG TIME.

UM, AND I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE SPLIT OFF FROM THE TRUTH OF MATTER IS THE REVERSE.

THOSE TWO MIGHT ACTUALLY LET'S DO A BALANCED CORRECTIONAL.

NOW, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.

MAYBE WE CAN STILL WORK ON SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS.

ONE OF THE THINGS, THE OTHER IS ONE OF THEM.

I LIVE IN TOWN, BUT I KNOW OTHERS WHEN THEY SEE THIS, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT ADDED TO 10 WEST.

I DON'T NECESSARILY MIND THAT, BUT, UM, THAT'S THE, THERE IS ROOM FOR BIG NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER IS WHERE ALL THE CHANGES ALSO HAPPENING

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OUR WEST.

AND THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS I FIND IT KIND OF INTERESTING, CAUSE I'M THINKING WAS TENSION.

SHIT'S BEEN SAID TO YOU THAT, OH, TIM IS LIKE PERFECTLY BALANCED ALREADY.

IT DIDN'T GAIN MUCH COME UP AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO CHANGE IT.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS WORKING DRAFT MAP, DISTRICT THAT'S MOST CHANGED.

IT'S PROBABLY EITHER SIX OR 10 OR NINE.

AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO WAGER ACTUALLY THIS FIRST WORKING DRAFT MAP.

YEAH.

IT WAS THE ONE THAT SAID, AND YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE LEAST.

SO, UM, THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS ON THAT FOR NOW.

OTHERS ARE TOO WHEN THEY SEE THE OFFICIAL.

THANK YOU MR. PARSONS.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JERRY PATTERSON FROM DISTRICT FIVE.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I JUST THOUGHT I WAS SIGNING IN TO ME, BUT I'LL GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

I APOLOGIZE, KIND OF LATE GAME AND NOT VERY WELL INFORMED, BUT IS THERE A PROPOSED MAP AVAILABLE BASED ON DATA? THAT IS WHAT WE'LL BE DOING TOGETHER TONIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO, AND WHEN IT IS AVAILABLE, WILL IT BE AVAILABLE? YES, SIR.

SO ONCE THE MAPS HAVE BEEN APPROVED NEXT WEEK, THOSE WILL BE UPLOADED.

OF COURSE, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE REVIEWING TONIGHT, UM, WILL ALSO BE UPLOADED AS BACKUP DOCUMENTS TO THE CITY SITE UNDER ICRS.

OKAY.

AND THANK YOU.

AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE COMMENTS TO IMPROVE SOME ONLINE PORTAL ON THAT MAP.

ABSOLUTELY.

YOU CAN ALSO EMAIL US.

YES.

THANK YOU.

AND OUR EMAIL ADDRESS IS ICRC DOT COMMISSIONERS AT AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV.

YOU CAN ALSO COMMENT ON, SPEAK UP, AUSTIN.

YOU JUST LOOK UP THE ICE FIRST.

DO WE HAVE ANY MORE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION EVENING? IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS JUST QUICKLY.

UM, AGENDA ITEM ONE, APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 1ST MEETING.

COMMISSIONER PHONE CALL.

YEAH, ON PAGE THREE AT THE TOP, IT SAYS COMMISSIONER CALLED IT ON REQUESTED FUNDING FOR A LARGER ADVERTISING BUDGET.

I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THAT WAS COMMISSIONER E I'M NOT SURE IF A FORMAL MOTION WAS MADE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONLY FOUR EMOTIONS ARE REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES.

SO JUST WANTED TO CHECK THAT.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY FURTHER CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED? THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THREE B THE PRESENTATION OF THE DRAFT MAP BY GEORGE KORBEL, OUR ICRC MAPPING SPECIALIST.

AND MR. CORBELL, DO YOU HAVE YOUR OWN MICROPHONE WHERE YOU ARE A MICROPHONE? I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE YOU INTO A MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORDING.

YES UM, I LOOKED AT THE LOOK OF THE MAPS.

I ATTENDED ALL THE HEARING SO FAR AND I'VE READ THROUGH THE SUMMARIES AND MOST OF THE EMAILS AND IT TOOK YOUR EXISTING MAP, WHICH, UM, FROM THE TESTIMONY DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF FOLLOWING WHAT THE CHARTER IN KENYA.

THEN I LOOKED AT THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE FROM THE DISTRICT MOST IMPORTANT PRIORITY IS POPULATION.

AND THE NEXT, THE NEXT REALLY IMPORTANT PRIORITY IS BEING FAIR.

ALL REASONS,

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THIS WHOLE PLAN AND ON THE LEFT ON THIS MAP, YOU CAN SEE THAT'S THE CURRENT MAP AND ON THE RIGHT DEALS, THE MODIFICATIONS YOU COME TO A POPULATION AND FALL.

AND, UM, ONE THING I MIGHT POINT OUT IN THIS CAGE THAT, UM, THERE IS THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED THE VTV, WHICH IS VOTING TABULATION DISTRICT, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS A THREESOME.

AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE REFERRED TO, I REFER TO THEM, REFER TO THE EXISTING PLAN IS THE CURRENT PLAN ELECTIONS.

OKAY.

UM, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS ANOTHER MAP COMPARING THE OLD MAP WITH SOME ARROWS ON WHAT THE NEW MAP IS.

JUST THE, HOW AS THE, HOW THE NEW MAP CAME INTO EXISTENCE.

WHEN YOU GO THROUGH EACH, EACH ONE OF THOSE ARROWS TO SHOW EXACTLY WHAT I DID.

AND, UM, MAYBE IT'LL ALLOW YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OTHER IDEAS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS MAP IS DRIVEN BY THE, BY THE POPULATION IN SIX SIXES IN SIGNIFICANTLY.

WELL, WE HAVE TO DROP POPULATION FROM SIX INTO 10, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT 10 BECOMES, UM, CHANGE HAS TO CHANGE.

UM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THAT, WE WOULD RAPPING FOR VOTING, PLEASE, ACTUALLY PUTTING PRECINCTS FROM, UM, FROM FIXING 10 AND PARTS OF A COUPLE MORE.

AND THEN WE'LL DROP, YOU'RE DROPPING YOUR VOTING PRECINCT FROM SIX IN THE SEVENTH THAT DRIVES THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE PLAN, THAT MODEL POPULATION STARTING WITH DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, THIS IS WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE WITH DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, HERE'S ONE, HERE'S, ONE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, ONE.

NOW I'M PROPOSING THAT WE WILL, WE'RE SAYING 3 25 AND PART OF PRECINCT 2 0 6, UM, INTO, INTO NINE NINE IS, UM, AND THOSE PRECINCTS ARE THE, UM, BLACK POPULATION OF ALL PRECINCT IS 20% SEE VAP AND, UM, BLACK POPULATION OF THE PARTIAL IS 13%.

UM, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THIS IS OTHER CHANGES THAT COULD GO ON WITH DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, MOVING PRECINCT ONE 18, WHICH IS 51% HISPANIC AND 19% BLACK IN THE DISTRICT FOUR AND MOVING PART OF PRECINCT 1 33

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INTO, ALSO INTO FOUR.

AND THAT IS 8% BLACK AND 22% HISPANIC.

AND, UM, ALL THE PRECINCT ONE 30 AND THAT IS 12%, 4% BLACK AND 40% HISPANIC.

WHEN WE DO THAT, THAT LEAVES THE BLACK DISTRICT, THE DISTRICT NUMBER ONE WITH THE LARGEST BLACK POPULATION, WE USE IT, I THINK ONE 10TH OF 1% VOTING AGE POPULATION BELOW WHAT IT IS.

OKAY.

NUMBER TWO IS WITHIN POPULATION RANGE AND I'M SENSING IT ONLY BORDERS TO OTHER DISTRICTS.

IT'S KIND OF HARD TO USE IN ANY WAY.

AND SO WE PROPOSED, OR I PROPOSE TO LEAVE THIS EXACTLY NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE AND IT'S SLIGHTLY OVERPOPULATED.

AND DISTRICT NINE IS UNDERPOPULATED.

SO I PROPOSE MOVING ONE, UM, VOTING PRECINCT OR 3 45 TO NINE, AND THAT IS 5,000 PEOPLE.

AND IT'S EXCELLENT.

IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS I'M READY TO ANSWER.

UM, THIS IS A, THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT I DID, UM, BECAUSE IT SEEMED TO BE OUT OF PLACE.

DISTRICT NUMBER EIGHT HAD THIS NEW ARM WENT UP, WENT UP HERE, LOOKING LIKE THIS.

AND, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS SO FAR FROM THE CENTER OF DISTRICT EIGHT.

IT SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE IN DISTRICT CAMP.

AND SO I PUT THAT IN, IT'S A VERY SMALL POPULATION, 417 PEOPLE IN ONE PARTIAL PRECINCT AND 55 PEOPLE IN ANOTHER PARCEL, BUT IT SEEMED TO MAKE MORE SENSE.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT, THE NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY.

THIS IS WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, DISTRICT NINE NOW.

UM, YOU ARE, YOU'RE AT THE, IN DISTRICT NINE, THERE ARE TWO BOARDING PRISONS THAT ARE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND THEY'RE BOTH SPLIT.

AND WHEN I PROPOSED IN ORDER TO BRING THE POPULATION BETTER, I PROPOSED PUTTING, PUTTING BOTH PARTS OF THESE TWO PERSONS TOGETHER AND INTO NINE.

AND THAT'S PRECINCT 2 74 AND PRECINCT TWO 14.

UM, THE NEXT SLIDE THEN I PROPOSED, UM, MOVING, UM, 36, THERE IS A PART OF PRECINCT FOR 24 36 CITY BLOCKS.

I AM FOR POPULATION QUALITY.

I PROPOSE MOVING THAT INTO THREE AND, UM, THERE IS A PART OF 13 BLOCKS OF PRECINCT, 4 33, AND I WOULD PROPOSE TO MOVE THAT ALSO INTO THREE POPULATION BALANCE.

AND THEN THERE'S FULL PRECINCT FOR 22.

AND I WOULD ALSO PROPOSE MOVING THAT INTO DISTRICT THREE.

THEN THERE'S A PARTIAL PRECINCT, UM, FOUR 20, WHICH IS 25 CITY BLOCKS.

AND I WOULD PROPOSE MOVING THAT INTO THREE.

IT MAKES IT MAKES FOR A MORE COMPACT DISTRICT AND IT USING THE REPOPULATION OF DISTRICT OF THIS DISTRICT, UM, WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO DO IS WE'RE ABLE TO UNCUT FOUR, FIVE, ACTUALLY FIVE PREVIOUSLY PUT THEM TOGETHER.

YES,

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YES.

I'M SORRY.

NO, SORRY.

THE NEXT, THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS SHOWS THE, UM, THE, UM, THE MOVEMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE IN DISTRICT NUMBER NINE, THE TOP TWO WERE ADDED TO NINE AND THE BOTTOM FOUR WERE TAKEN AWAY.

NEXT SLIDE.

WHAT THIS DOES IS SHOWS CURRENT DISTRICT NINE AND THE WAY I WOULD CHANGE DISTRICT NINE, IT HAS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME, SAME SHAPE.

UM, WHY DO YOU IS INCREASED IN POPULATION? LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, NEXT SLIDE SHOWS I WOULD MOVE A PRECINCT FOR 28, FROM SEVEN IN THE FOUR FOR POPULATION QUALITY REASONS.

AND I WOULD MOVE A SMALL, SMALL, WE'VE ALREADY DEALT WITH THESE, THESE PIECES FROM NUMBER ONE INTO NUMBER FOUR.

SO THERE'S DISTRICT NUMBER FOUR WOULD MAINTAIN THE SAME SHAPE, UM, THEN HAVE POPULATIONS FAULT, MR. YES.

OKAY.

SURE.

WELL, I'M SORRY.

I'M ON 14.

NUMBER 15, NUMBER 15 SHOWS WHAT NUMBER ONE LOOKED LIKE IN THE CURRENT PLAN AND WHAT WOULD NUMBER ONE WOULD LOOK LIKE UNDER THIS SPECIMEN PLAN? AND YOU CAN SEE, THEY LOOK VERY, THEY LOOK VERY SIMILAR, SLIGHTLY MORE COMPACT.

YES.

THERE STILL SEEMS TO BE SOME WHITE SPOTS OR THOSE UNINCORPORATED PARTS OF IT PRETTY, OR THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE AREAS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE CITY.

THEY'RE EITHER UNINCORPORATED OR IN SOME SITUATIONS IT MAY BE A CITY OR A CITY THAT'S INSIDE THE CITY.

I KNOW WE HEARD THAT AT THEIR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

SO I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE DO? WELL, I SUSPECT A LOT OF THOSE ARE BUSINESS DEALS WITH THE CITY HAS WITH THE EMPLOYER TO BUILD BACK JOBS WITH THE CITY AND WHERE THEY MAY BE, OR THEY MAY BE SOME OTHER REASON THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THEORETICALLY, ALL OF THOSE AREAS, AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT ANOTHER CITY, THAT'S GOING TO THE NEXT, THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS, THIS LOOKS AT THE TOP, THE CLOSER YOU LOOK AT THE TOP OF THE PLAN, WHICH IS ON THE LEFT AND THE SPECIMEN PLAN, WHICH IS ON THE RIGHT AGAIN, YOU SEE THE, THEY ESSENTIALLY MAINTAIN THE SAME SHAPES.

AND, UM, I TRIED TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE POPULATION MIX SIMILAR AREAS AND I ADDED THE NUMBER FOUR NUMBER NINE.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT DISTRICT NUMBER 10, THIS GIVES YOU A, A, WHICH IS THE GREEN ONE TO THE UPPER LEFT-HAND CORNER.

UM, YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH POPULATION THAT HAS TO USE TO, UM, COME INTO POPULATION QUALITY.

I ORIGINALLY, I THOUGHT OF TAKING THE POPULATION FROM, UM, THE OTHER SIDE OF 10 AND MOVING IT INTO SEVEN, BUT BOTH

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OF THOSE, THOSE PRECINCTS ARE VERY HEAVILY ASIAN POPULATION.

AND THAT DISTRICT IS GENERALLY DEVELOPING AS ASIAN INFLUENCES.

AND SO I TOOK THE POPULATION FROM THE TOP OF NUMBER SIX.

AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO IS THAT UNLESS THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH IT, I WOULD JUST INCLUDE ALL OF THAT GREEN AREA FROM NUMBER SIX, RIGHT ABOVE THE PURPLE AREA, PINK AREA IN 10.

I THINK THAT PROBABLY WOULD SIMPLIFY THE MAP A LOT.

AND THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE LIVE IN THOSE, IN THAT AREAS THAT ARE MORE AT THE CURRENT TANNINS, EXCUSE ME, NORTH AND WEST.

NEXT SLIDE.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS LOOKING AT THE LOWER LOWER PART OF THE MAP.

AGAIN REMAINS THE SAME ONE.

PRECINCT IS REMOVED FROM FIVE AND PUT IN NINE.

AND ONE, ONE, ESSENTIALLY ONE PRECINCT IS REMOVED FROM EIGHT PUT INTO 10, AND THAT'S THAT SMALL AREA THAT I SHOWED YOU THAT IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF UNMANAGED AREA AND, UM, POPULATION.

THESE ARE THE POPULATION NUMBERS ON THE SPECIMEN PLAN.

UM, WE RUN FROM A MINUS 3.5% DEVIATION TO EIGHT UPWARD UPWARD DEVIATION OF 2.9.

AND IT'S A TOTAL DEVIATION OF 6.55.

AND THAT'S WELL WITHIN, UH, THE NUMBERS THAT THE COURTS HAVE PERMITTED.

IN FACT, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE COULD MAKE CHANGES AND INCREASE THAT DEVIATION AS LONG AS WE HAVE GOOD REASONS FOR THE CHANGE.

GOOD JUSTIFICATION.

I THINK THAT'S IT.

THAT'S IT.

THAT'S THE PRESENTATION.

I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS.

YES, THANK YOU MUCH.

UM, SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UM, FOR THIS EVENING IS TO HEAR FROM THE NAACP AND HISPANIC COALITION, GO THROUGH THEIR PRESENTATION Q AND A WITH THEM, AND THEN WE CAN RETURN TO THIS WITH SOME MORE IN DEPTH CONVERSATION, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER LANDS.

YEP.

I DO HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION I NEED IS THAT, UM, I HEARD REFERENCE TO, AND THIS IS ABOUT EQUITY.

I HAD HEARD REFERENCES TO AN AGENT INFLUENCED DISTRICT, WHICH, UM, WHICH LED ME TO WONDER WHAT OTHER ETHNIC GROUPS HAD INFLUENCED DISTRICTS AND WHAT WAS THE PRIORITY AS IT RELATES TO, UH, EQUITABLY DISTRIBUTION, AS OPPOSED TO JUST POPULATION.

WHAT I TRIED TO DO IS I TRIED TO MAINTAIN THE POPULATION, NEW PLAN SPECIMEN PLAN, MAINTAIN THE POPULATION AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE OPEN SO THAT THE SPANISH INFLUENCE THIS BIG BLACK INFLUENCES WERE ALL TREATED THE SAME.

AND, UH, THAT'S IT.

YEAH, JUST A CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

SO WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS.

IS THAT A DIFFERENT NAME TO REFERENCE THE SAME THING BECAUSE I'M USING INFLUENCE DISTRICT, IS SOME, IS THAT SOMETHING DIFFERENT? UM, WELL THE ASIAN POPULATION IS SMALLER THAN THE SOMEWHAT SMALL AND, UM, BUT NEVER BLACK INFLUENCE HISPANIC.

AND THE REASON THAT I MENTIONED IS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN TESTIMONY ABOUT THAT AND THERE HAS BEEN ELECTED,

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I THINK THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD MAINTAIN NATURE.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T GIVE ME CLARITY.

WHAT I TRIED TO DO IS MAINTAIN, MAINTAIN AS MUCH AS I COULD, IF I CAN HELP CLARIFY.

I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER ON MR. KORBEL IS ASKING IF YOUR USE OF THE TERM, UM, INFLUENCE DISTRICT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT.

SORRY.

IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS AT THIS MOMENT, PROMISE WE WILL RETURN TO MR. PEBBLE'S PRESENTATION.

WE ARE GOING TO GO ON TO THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS.

PRESENTATION OF LABS FROM THE NAACP AND HISPANIC COALITION.

AND DO WE HAVE ALL OF THAT READY TO GO? MR. YANG, LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE A MICROPHONE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOUR WALLET, DRESS COMMISSION.

READY TO GO.

MA'AM JEREMY RAY.

WE'RE READY.

THANK YOU.

THE FIRST PERSON I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE FROM MY COALITION NELSON LINDER, PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP AND WITH MY COOLERS.

AND CO-CHAIRS THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M A CULTURE OF A CITYWIDE COALITION FROM RODEO AFRICA AS HISPANICS AND OUR PRIMARY GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT WE MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY.

HOW ABOUT FOR DISTRICTS? I WANT TO MAKE A, WHEN WE SAY OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT, THAT TERM REFERS TO VERY IMPORTANT LANGUAGE.

AND I GUESS IN THE PAST, OF COURSE WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

AS FAR AS THE HISTORY OF THIS PROCESS IS SO IMPORTANT.

WHEN YOU SEE HISTORY HERE, IT WAS ILLEGAL AND VALIDATION.

SO I THINK WE TERM INFLUENCES IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.

SO I'M GOING TO STICK WITH OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THAT'S ILLEGAL CONNOTATION.

OKAY.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR A LOT OF REASONS.

I'M HERE AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE AWESOME NAACP.

I MUST BEAR A LOT OF HISTORY BECAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, BUT HOW WE GOT HERE.

UM, 2012, IT WAS A MASSIVE STATEWIDE COALITION THAT PRODUCED TIM WON.

THERE WAS NO DOUBT THAT THIS COALITION HAD SIMILAR IDEAS AND ASSISTS THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING FOLKS VOTE AND ELECTORAL REPRESENTATION.

AND AS A RESULT, THEY CRUSHED OPPOSING PROPOSITIONS.

THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL, THAT THERE WAS A STRONG DESIRE TO HAVE A FAIR SYSTEM THAT AFFORDED LIKE THE VOTE, BUT ALSO TO ELECT REPRESENTATIVES, WE TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT VOTER RIGHTS AND THE SYSTEM IS KEEPING AROUND ALSO THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID ANYTHING THAT WOULD DILUTE THESE POPULATION AND THEREFORE USE OPPORTUNITIES TO REDEVELOP DISTRICTS THAT THAT'S CRITICAL AS WELL.

WHAT WE DO HERE

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IN A WORST NIGHTMARE IS WHAT WE CALL GERRYMANDERING.

WE TREAT A PROCESS THAT DOES EXACTLY THAT.

SO I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE MAPS AND LANGUAGE IS VERY IMPORTANT, THE HISTORY IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT.

AND ALSO BEING CONSCIOUS OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS PROBABLY EVEN MOST IMPORTANT IN THESE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS, BECAUSE THINK ABOUT A CITY, UH, AT ONE POINT YOU HAD NO BLACK REPRESENTATION OR HISPANIC.

AND THE CONSEQUENCE OF THAT WAS YOU GOT A LACK OF RESOURCES, NO AREAS WHERE INFRASTRUCTURE IS SHORT, THE OPPORTUNITY WAS NOT THERE.

THOSE ARE SERIOUS ISSUES.

SO WE DON'T GET THIS RIGHT.

IT HAS A VERY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE EARTH FOLKS WHO WERE TRYING TO REPRESENT THE FIRST PLACE BASED ON THAT NEXT ACT.

WE KNOW THAT BASED ON WHAT THE COURT HAS DONE, SURELY DIMINISHING IT SINFUL.

AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THOSE THINGS IN MIND.

I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON THIS AS WELL TODAY THAT YOU HAVE AMERICAN DISTRICT FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL.

WE'VE SEEN THE NEW SETS OF CHALLENGES.

AND SO WE HAVE TO GET THIS RIGHT, BECAUSE IN THESE TIMES NOW DESCENDING EXPANDS AGAIN, THE ISSUE OF EQUITY, THAT'S DIRECT CONNECTION TO WHO REPRESENTS YOU AND SENDING YOU ISSUES.

AND ALSO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO TAKE THE PEOPLE.

SO IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

THAT'S WHY THIS PROCESS HERE, THERE'S A CERTAIN KIND OF URGENCY NOT UNDERSTANDING.

WE MADE IT VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT MR. YACHT HAS ABOUT, ABOUT THE FIGHT THAT, THAT THESE DISTRICTS CAN BE PRODUCED.

I BELIEVE THAT ABOUT THAT.

I THINK THAT COULD BE DONE.

UM, OF COURSE HAS BEEN DIFFICULT GIVEN AUSTIN'S POPULATIONS CHILLS, BUT I THINK WE CAN GET THAT DOWN.

WE'RE NOT JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS ONE, THE NEXT ACT, WHICH HAS BEEN DIMINISHED, BUT STILL EXISTS.

IT'S NOT, THERE'S A LEGAL, LEGAL UMBRELLA HERE AS WELL.

SO THE MOUSE WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THE DAY, WE'LL MOVE OUT A BLANK OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT AS WELL AS THREE HISPANIC DISTRICTS WILL, YOU WILL SUPPORT THE CONTINUATION OF, UM, GENUINE MINORITY REPRESENTATION.

THE CITY HALL ADOPTED THE PLAN THAT PROPOSED.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOU WORK, UH, YOUR TIME INVESTMENT.

AND ALSO JUST ONE FINAL DECISION YOU MAKE IS A HUGE IMPACT ON THE CITY.

WE INHERIT JOSEPH LIGHT BROWN AND THEN ALSO ASIAN PEOPLE AS WELL.

SO WHAT YOU, BESIDE HERE IN THIS PROCESS, YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A VERY IMPORTANT STAMP ON THE MOST OBSERVED CITY NATION, AUSTIN, TEXAS, BECAUSE OF THE TINY BLACK POPULATION AND THE HISTORIC INEQUITY HERE ON FARES.

SO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A BURDEN THAT WE CARRY AND I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE'RE WATCHING FROM EVERY ANGLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE BEEN USE THE BEST POSSIBLE WITH MINIMAL DILUTION.

ABSOLUTELY NONE, AND A FAIR PROCESS FOR THESE FOUR DISTRICTS.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND APPRECIATE YOU SACRIFICE.

MY NAME IS GONZALO.

BARRIENTOS JUST BY WAY OF BACKGROUND IN YEARS IN THE TEXAS HOUSE, 20 YEARS IN THE TEXAS SENATE.

AND BY THE WAY, I WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CITY CHARTER COMMISSION, WHICH PUT FORTH ONE DISTRICT PRESENTLY THE WELL, I WAS A FORMER CHAIR OF THE AUSTINITES FOR GEOGRAPHIC REPRESENTATION.

AND NOW THE CURRENT CULTURE OF THE NAACP ON HISPANIC COALITION.

SO FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND FIELD REDISTRICTING, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DISTRICTS, AFRICAN-AMERICAN OPPORTUNITY, DISTRICT TWO HISPANIC DISTRICTS, AND MAYBE ONE OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT.

WE THINK THAT THE CENSUS NUMBERS OF THE, OF THAT, UH, JUSTIFY REPRESENTATION IN 2013, UM, WE LIKE YOUR MATH CONSULTANT HAVE FOLLOWED ALL CONSTITUTIONAL AND VOTING RIGHTS GUIDELINES.

WE HOPE THAT, UH,

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THIS BODY WILL GIVE CAREFUL AND THOROUGH CONSIDERATION OF OUR PROPOSAL WITH THAT.

UH, YOU HAVE MUCH BUSINESS TO DO SO I WILL CONCLUDE THERE UNLESS THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS, GOOD EVENING CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

AT FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR THE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING FOR THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN.

JUST SOUTH OF HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, UH, GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARIES WILL BE REDRAWN BY ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE NOT INDEPENDENT.

UH, INDEPENDENCE MAKES A DIFFERENCE, ESPECIALLY IN THE CITY VOTERS AND NON-VOTERS ALIVE LAW, PUBLIC SERVANTS TO HAVE INTEGRITY, HONESTY, AND OBEY CONSTITUTION, THE CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF THE LAND.

IT WAS MY PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF DISTRICT ONE AND THE CITY CITIZENS OF AUSTIN AS THE FIRST AMERICAN OF AFRICAN DESCENT, ELECTED TO THE MODERN CITY COUNCIL, AS ONE OF THE LEADERS OF THE NAACP AND THE HISPANIC COALITION.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A FEW POINTS REGARDING THE WORK OF THIS CONDITION.

THE CHARTER PROVISIONS PASSED BY THE VOTERS IDENTIFIED IN THE CHARTER, THE PRIORITIES ALL COMMISSIONS MUST FOLLOW TO ESTABLISH AND REDRAW THE BOUNDARIES OF COUNCIL DISTRICTS SPECIFICALLY SECTION THREE, HE IDENTIFIES TWO TOP PRIORITIES DISTRICTS SHALL COMPLY WITH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT SHALL HAVE REASONABLE EQUALLY POPULATION WITH OTHER DISTRICTS EXCEPT WHERE DEVIATION IS REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THE FEDERAL VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

THE SECOND ONE IS THAT THE DISTRICT SHALL COMPLY WITH THE FEDERAL VOTING RIGHTS ACT IN HAND.

THE OTHER REQUIREMENT OF FEDERAL AND STATE.

IT IS OUR POSITION THAT THE MAPS FOR THE FOUR DISTRICTS PRESENTED TONIGHT COMPLY WITH THESE SECTIONS OF THE CITY CHARTER, WHICH GOVERN REDISTRICTING, AS YOU WILL SEE FROM THE PRESENTATION, THE MAPS ARE SPECIFIC TO ETHNIC GROUPS PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION AND THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

THE MAPS ALSO ALIGNED WITH CURRENT AND DISTORT OBJECTIVES.

THE MAPS ENSURED THAT THE EASTERN WE'LL HAVE GEOGRAPHICAL REPRESENTATION.

PEOPLE WILL BE REPRESENTED BY A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO LIVES IN THE SAME GEOGRAPHICAL AREA.

AND THE DISTRICTS ASSURE THAT THE UNIQUE VOICES OF PEOPLE IN THE EASTERN QUESTION ARE HEARD AT CITY COUNCIL.

THESE DISTRICTS WILL RECOGNIZE THE DISTRICT OF OUR FAMILIES AND OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGHOUT ALL GENERATION.

AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INTEREST AND YOUR FOCUS ON THIS ISSUE AND, UM, TAKE CARE.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN, AND IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT, UH, YOU'VE BEEN MAKING GREAT PROGRESS.

UH, I MIGHT ADD THAT I WAS ACTUALLY THE, THE THIRD CO-CHAIR OF AUSTINITES FOR GEOGRAPHIC REPRESENTATION, AND IT'S REALLY NICE TO SEE THIS PROCESS GOING THROUGH SO WELL, THE SECOND TIME THROUGH, I THINK IT WORKED WELL THE FIRST TIME.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE AN EVEN BETTER PRODUCT.

SO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR WORK AND YOUR EFFORT, UH, AS COUNCIL MEMBER OF HOUSTON SAID, UH, IN WHICH YOU WOULD READING DIRECTLY FROM THE CHARTER OF THERE'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE.

IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST CRITICAL ISSUE WHEN YOU'RE ADOPTING WEEDMAPS AND THAT'S THE ISSUE OF VARIANTS.

HOW MUCH ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW THE DISTRICTS TO VARY FROM YOUR IDEAL POPULATION? OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GOOD REASONS, LEGAL REASONS, VALID REASONS TO VARY.

THERE'S SOME NOT SO GOOD REASONS TO VARY, BUT YOU KNOW, TO KEEP THINGS JUST AS THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN, OR BECAUSE IT IS FAVORABLE TO SOME OR OTHER, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, WE REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT WE CARE ABOUT IS MAKING SURE THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO VARY THE DISTRICTS, WE'RE DOING IT FOR VERY GOOD REASONS.

ONE VERY GOOD REASON IS TO COMPLY WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

I BELIEVE THE MAPS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IN A MINUTE, UH, DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF DOING THAT.

AND THE AMOUNT OF VARIANCE OF THE 2013 WAS, UH, ALLOWED TO BE, I BELIEVE WITH PLUS OR MINUS 5%, THE MAPS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT, THE MAXIMUM VARIANCE THAT WE SEE IS RIGHT AT 2%.

SO IT'S NOT MUCH VARIANCE AND IT GETS US A VERY, VERY GOOD MAPS THAT WOULD BE PROTECTIVE OF OUR EXISTING OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP ALL OF THAT IN MIND, AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING MAPS.

AND AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING VARIOUS PROPOSALS WITH YOUR MATES HAVE MODIFY THEM AND TAKE THEM OFF

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OF THE IDEAL POPULATION.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

THE OTHER PROBLEM YOU HAVE IS AREAS SIMPLY NOT IN THE BIG ENOUGH CONCENTRATION YET OF ASIAN VOTERS TO CREATE ANY KIND OF DISTRICT, NOR HAS THERE BEEN A FINDING THAT ASIANS ARE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST SUFFICIENTLY TO BE ABLE TO BE FOUND AS A PROTECTED CLASS UNDER THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

UH, THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT MAJORITY STATUS AND OPPORTUNITY STATUS DISTRICTS ARE TERMS OF ART.

THESE ARE LEGAL TERMS. WE DON'T FOLLOW THEM AROUND BECAUSE IT MAKES US FEEL GOOD.

UH, GEORGE IS A EXTREMELY EXPERIENCED ATTORNEY IN THIS FIELD.

YOUR OTHER COUNSEL IS EVEN MORE EXPERIENCED.

THE REASON I KNOW THAT IS THAT WHEN I WAS IN LAW SCHOOL, I WAS HIS CLERK IN THE AREA OF REDISTRICTING.

AND HE TRAINED ME IN THAT AREA.

I LEFT LAW SCHOOL BECAUSE I NEEDED TO MAKE MONEY DOING SOMETHING ELSE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE DONE IS REDISTRICTING FOR 45 YEARS.

SO I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

AND I TALK ABOUT TERMS OF ART AND LAW.

LET ME BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO PRESENT TO YOU.

UH, WE HAVE FOLLOWED THE FIRST TWO ITEMS UNDER YOUR LIGHT LEFT PRIORITY LIST.

UH, IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE CHARTER WE HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU, WE WILL PRESENT TO YOU THREE SPECIFIC DISTRICTS.

I GEORGE, WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND ARE WORKING ON THE FOUR DISTRICTS.

WE HAVE NOT WORKED AT VTD, WHICH IS A LARGE BLOCK OF VOTERS.

WE'VE GONE TO THE BLOCK LEVEL AND WE HAVE WORKED AS HARD AS WE CAN ON AT THE BLOCK LEVEL TO TRY TO CREATE AS MANY MAJORITY MINORITY OR MINORITY OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS AS WAS POSSIBLE.

UH, THE, UH, YOU HAVE OUR LIST OF BULLET POINTS, BUT LET ME GO OVER BRIEFLY WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE.

WE'VE DONE.

THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION.

AND WE AGREE WITH GEORGE ON THIS FOR CHANGING TOO.

IT IS IT'S VERY, ANSWER'S NOT SIGNIFICANT.

AND IT IS A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICT.

IT IS, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CREATE A MAJORITY OR, UH, SO MAJORITY MINORITY, MAJORITY BLACK DISTRICT IN AUSTIN, IT WAS, THAT WAS SO EIGHT YEARS AGO, OR WE COULDN'T DO IT THEN, OR SEVEN YEARS AGO, THERE IS SIMPLY NOT A LARGE ENOUGH CONCENTRATION OF BLACKS IN THIS TECH COMMUNITY.

I'LL ALSO TELL YOU THAT THE FACT IS, IS IT BECAUSE OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY BEING DRIVEN OUT OF AUSTIN BY HOT, BY HIGH PRICES AND A CONSCIOUS POLICY OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN, THERE IS EVEN LESS OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

OUR GOAL WAS TO TAKE WHERE BLACKS WERE CONCENTRATED.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER YOUR SCATTER CHARTS THAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN SHOWN THAT IS STILL IN EAST AUSTIN, OUR EFFORT WAS AT THE BLOCK LEVEL TO CONCENTRATE AS MANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS AS POSSIBLE IN A DISTRICT.

IT CREATED A BLACK OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT, WHICH WE'LL SHOW YOU IN JUST A MINUTE.

WHAT WE ALSO DID AS, AS WE, WE ALSO MADE A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO CREATE THE TWO OTHER HISPANIC DISTRICTS AND NOT THREE TO GIVE THE BLACKS AND MAJORITY BASE BAGS AND MAJORITY, AND ALSO THE AMOUNT OF DEVIATION FROM IDEAL IN THOSE DISTRICTS.

UM, AND THAT'S, AS YOU CAN SEE OUR SUMMARY PAGE, UH, WE THEREFORE WE MADE NO CHANGES IN INTUIT ALL, UH, LET'S LET'S GO TO THE MAPS SHIT YOU HAD, THAT'S AN EX THAT'S AN X SLIDE.

WHOEVER'S PLAYING WITH THE SLIDES OVER THERE, OUR NEXT BIN, DEREK'S THE NEXT OURS.

AND THAT WASN'T THAT, WHATEVER THE NEXT THING IS, JUST GO THROUGH.

YOU HAVE TO GO TO OTHER STATISTICS, THE OTHER STATISTICS, WHATEVER THE NEXT SLIDE IS, GO TO IT.

OKAY.

WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THE THREE DISTRICTS WE DID TARGET.

AND WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH WAS A DEVIATION OF 0.8, NINE, 2.02 AND POINT AND POINT 0.25 UNDER IDEAL.

WELL, WE ENDED UP WITH DISTRICT ONE AS A DISTRICT THAT A DISTRICT, WHICH IS NOW, UNFORTUNATELY IT'S 26, APPROXIMATELY 26% AFRICAN-AMERICAN IT WAS STILL, I STILL 28% HISPANIC.

I CAN ASSURE YOU HAVING WORKED ON THIS.

PERSONALLY, WE LOOKED, WE FOUND EVERY AFRICAN-AMERICAN ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE CITY.

THE ONLY WAY WE'VE HAD GOTTEN THIS NAME, MORE AFRICAN AMERICANS THAT WE DIDN'T ANNEX MANNER.

UM, THE OTHER TWO DISTRICTS, AS YOU WILL SAY, UH, ARE, ARE, UH, FOUR IS

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A MAJORITY, UH, HISPANIC OR HISPANIC DISTRICT.

AND THREE IS, IS A HISPANIC OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT.

IN TERMS OF POPULATION.

THERE IS A THING IN HERE YOU WILL SEE CALLED VOTING AGE POPULATION.

SO IT WASN'T VOTING AGE POPULATION THAT BECAME AVAILABLE TO US.

GOSH AFTERNOON, IT IS NOT POPULATION.

IT IS A SURVEY DONE BY A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS USED IN THIS SORT OF THING.

THE PROBLEM FOR HISPANICS IS IT CITIZEN VOTING AGE, DIMINISHES THEIR NUMBERS, BUT FOR TWO REASONS, ONE HIGH BIRTH RATES AND TWO IN THIS PART OF THE UNITED STATES FACT THAT THEY HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THEIR COMMUNITY WHO ARE NOT CITIZENS.

WHAT WE CAN TELL YOU IS IT THREE AS AN OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT, WE BELIEVE FOR AS A SOLID, UH, AS A SOLID HISPANIC DISTRICT, FOUR WAS AN OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT BEFORE THESE ARE OUR INITIAL NUMBERS.

WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR TWO DAYS WHEN WE GOT FOR TWO SOLID DAYS, WHEN WE GOT ACCESS TO THE NECESSARY CENSUS DATA.

AND WE BELIEVE THESE NUMBERS ARE AS GOOD AS WE CAN DO IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WE ARE NOT ANNOUNCING THAT THESE NUMBERS ARE NON-NEGOTIABLE.

UH, WE ARE MORE THAN WILLING AND HAPPY TO MEET WITH MR. KORBEL AND TO WORK WITH HIM ON TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS EVEN BETTER THAN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TONIGHT, BECAUSE FRANKLY ACCESS TO OUR DATA DIDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL 48 HOURS AGO OR 72 HOURS AGO.

BUT WHAT WE DO THINK WE HAVE DONE IT MADE OUR INITIAL CHARGE, WHICH IS WE HAVE CREATED FOUR DISTRICTS, WHICH HAVE EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD ELECT A MINORITY AND THE CASES, AS WE SAY, IN OUR OLDER PIT, WE SAID AND TOLD OUR OVERVIEW, THE ISSUE WE HAVE IS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY HAS BEEN THE NUMBER OF BLACKS THAT HAD BEEN DRIVEN OUT OF AUSTIN AND EAST, NORTHEAST AUSTIN.

AND THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY IS A CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION ISSUE.

AND WE NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK THEIR DATA, BUT WE CAN CREATE DISTRICTS THAT ARE EITHER OPPORTUNITY OR MAJORITY IS MANAGED BY POPULATION.

WE DO HAVE A STRONG OPINION, AND MY LEADERSHIP MAY WANT ME TO EXPRESS THIS CLEARLY TO YOU.

WE BELIEVE THE MAPS WE ARE PRESENTING TONIGHT SHOULD BE THE ANCHOR FOR THE MAPS THAT YOU WERE PRESENTING.

SEE WHY YOU SHOULD DRAW THE OTHER SIX MAPS IN LINE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS IN YOUR BROWNIES, BUT BECAUSE THE MINORITY COMMUNITY OBLIGATION TO DRAW MAPS AND GIVE THEM THE MAXIMUM OPPORTUNITY OR BASE VOTE IS YOUR FIRST TWO PRIORITIES.

WE BELIEVE THAT MAPS THAT WE CAN, WE ARE PRESENTING OUR MAPS, THAT WE WILL WORK WITH YOU TO FINALIZE SHOULD BE THE, SHOULD BE THE ANCHOR FOR A TEN ONE SYSTEM.

IT WAS SO LAST TIME MAPS PUT TOGETHER FOR THE MINORITY DISTRICTS.

WE BELIEVE BECAUSE THEY WERE TOP PRIORITY AND BECAUSE THEY ARE PROTECTED UNDER THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND THE CONSTITUTION NEED TO BE THE BOTTOM LINE ANCHORED WITH ANY SYSTEM OF 10 DISTRICTS, WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST TO PRESENT TO YOU.

WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE THE BEST MAPS AT THE BLOCK LEVEL THAT WE KEPT.

WE COULD, WE HAVE THE ACTUAL MAPS THEMSELVES AND OUR SLIDESHOW, BOTH THIS VERSION, WHICH YOU COME IN HANDY, BUT SHOWS THE ACTUAL DISTRICTS THEMSELVES.

UH, AND THEN WE HAVE, WHEN WE HAVE ACTUAL MAPS AT THE STREET LEVEL OF THE FOUR DISTRICT OF THE THREE, THE THREE DISTRICTS I REPEAT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

THERE'S NO REASON FOR YOU TO HAVE A MAP.

A TWO, YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE IN THE SEAT.

NOW, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? JOIN ME.

I ASSUME YOU COULD HANDLE THEM TOGETHER.

OR YOU MAY HAVE SOME ON ME.

THIS IS NOT BY THE WAY BETWEEN GEORGIA AND MY PEOPLE, AN ANTAGONISTIC PROCESS.

WE ARE SIMPLY TAKING THE POSITION THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY, THE SAME WAY YOUR CHARTER PROVISION IS STRUCTURED.

OURS IS A PRIORITY ABOVE DOING THINGS LIKE WORRYING ABOUT THE DISTRICT AND WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT.

WE JUST THINK OURS IS MORE IMPORTANT.

I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

THAT'S UP TO THE CHAIR, BUT I'LL BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING SHE DIRECTS ME TO.

I THINK I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH HOW THIS DATA IS BEING PRESENTED.

IF WE'RE AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION, I THINK IT FEELS LIKE IT'S FORCEFUL.

AND IF THERE'S A TEAM COLLABORATIVE, WE ARE OPEN TO NEGOTIATION.

WE WILL ACCEPT.

THOSE ARE STRONG TERMS TO USE.

AND I JUST WANT TO CALL OUT THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM IN WAYNE OF WHAT AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION SHOULD BE DOING.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

YOUR, YOUR MASS MAKES ME BETTER UNDERSTAND ABOUT EVERY THIRD WORD.

AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANNA HEAR IT.

LANGUAGE BEING USED SEEMS A LITTLE NON-COLLABORATIVE

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FOR AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE ORGANIZATION MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE OFFER TO HELP, BUT, BUT IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE WILLING TO NEGOTIATE.

WE WILL TAKE THE LANGUAGE ITSELF SEEMS STRONG, AND THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS MADE AROUND.

THIS IS NOT AN IMPORTANCE FOR YOU.

THIS SHOULD BE AN IMPORTANT, IT JUST DOESN'T FEEL INVADED.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.

I'M SORRY IF IT DOESN'T FEEL FRIENDLY, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH GEORGE OVER DETAILS.

BUT AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED, WE REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPORTED BY STATE LAW, FEDERAL LAW, BY BEING ASSURED OF THEIR REPRESENTATION.

AND WE HAVE MADE GOOD FAITH EFFORT AND DONE A GREAT DEAL OF WORK, PROVIDE YOU WITH A REWORK OF MAPS THAT DEAL WITH THAT PART OF TOWN, WHERE THOSE PEOPLE LIVE IN A MANNER THAT ASSURES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY, OR IN THE CASE OF WHERE THEY'RE A MAJORITY, THE GUARANTEE OF THE ABILITY TO ALEXA, BEYOND THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO DICTATE, AND WE THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE FOR US TO DICTATE ANY OTHER DISTRICTS, HOW YOU, WHAT YOU DO TO RESPOND TO THE MAPS WE'VE LAID OUT IN TERMS OF HOW YOU DRAW OTHER DISTRICTS.

WE ABSOLUTELY DON'T THINK WE EVER SHOULD HAVE.

NO, IT JUST FEELS LIKE I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE STRONG OPINIONS.

THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF IT.

I THINK OUR JOB AS AN INDEPENDENT COMMISSION IS TO REPRESENT ALL OF AUSTIN IN ALL OF THAT WORK IS IMPORTANT, NOT JUST THIS DISTRICT OR THAT DISTRICT.

AND THAT'S ALL I WANT TO CALL IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE CONCERN TO ADDRESS, UH, SIMILAR STATEMENTS, BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PRESENTATION AND THE FACT THAT WE FORM LOCKS THAT ARE DRAWN SO THAT WE'RE NOT GUESSING.

I HATE THE IDEA THAT WE MIGHT BE SITTING AROUND A TABLE TRYING TO TRY AND TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT SOMETHING AND HAVE TO GUESS THE DETAILS.

SO I APPRECIATE, UH, THIS TYPE OF APPROVAL OF A PRESENTATION.

I'M ONLY SAYING THIS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE AT LEAST MORE THAN ONE SIDE OF THIS DISCUSSION.

I RESPECT WHAT THE, WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER JUST SAID, BUT I ALSO WANT TO GO ON RECORD SAYING THAT I'M VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PRESENTATION.

I THINK THAT, UH, I'VE SEEN COLLABORATIONS OVER THE LAST 70 YEARS, AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

UM, MOST OF IT WAS AROUND A TREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHRIS.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT LEGALLY, AND I THINK GORD CAN DIRECTLY BY MS. MS. REPRESENTED BY ATTORNEY AN OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT IS CREATED AS A DISTRICT THAT CREATES A MAXIMUM OPPORTUNITY OR A PROJECTED MINORITY GROUP TO ELECT SOMEONE FROM THAT AREA.

IT DOES NOT GUARANTEE IT, BUT IT CREATES A MAXIMUM OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO DO SO.

AND THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW HIM NOT BEEN WITH YOU THROUGH EVERYTHING SINCE THE BEGINNING, THAT WAS IT.

WE'RE HAPPY TO TRY TO WORK WITH YOU.

BUT OUR POINT IS VERY SPECIFIC.

WE BELIEVE THIS VERSION OF THESE MAPS.

WE'RE NOT STUCK WITH FOURTH STREET OR THIRD STREET IS THE ANCHOR FROM WHICH YOU'VE DONE FOR ALL THE REST OF THE MAPS, BECAUSE THESE ARE PROTECTED MINORITY GROUPS WE'RE DEALING WITH.

THAT'S THE POINT WE'RE TRYING.

NO PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING BELLIGERENT ABOUT IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, OH, THE COMMISSIONERS NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU HAVE ANY FRIENDS FOR 40 YEARS.

SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE POINT HERE.

YEAH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I JUST, UM, I'D LOVE MORE INSIGHT ON USING THE, I KNOW THAT WHEN YOU DREW YOURS OR USED BLOCKS AND THAT MR. CORBELL USED THE, UM, 13 DISTRICTS.

SO JUST IF YOU COULD GIVE A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT ON HOW THAT HELPED YOU IT, AND IF I KNOW THE COUNTY ALSO HAS SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT USING SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC THAN THE PRECINCT, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT MY QUESTION IS, BUT JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IS IT OKAY TO BE AT THAT GRANULAR LEVEL? NO, YOU'RE OKAY.

IT'S

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BETTER.

UH, MR. CARBO MAY HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THIS, THIS CYCLE VGD IS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH PRECINCTS.

LAST CYCLE BTDS WERE RANDOM.

THEY HAD NO RELATIONSHIP TO AUSTIN PRECINCTS WHATSOEVER.

UH, NUMBER TWO, IF YOU REMEMBER THE TESTIMONY FROM THE ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR, YOU HAD BREE SINKS, IT LOOKED LIKE SOMEBODY HIT HIM WITH A HAMMER.

SO TRYING TO USE ELECTION PRECINCTS, UNLESS SHE'D BEEN ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEM IS NOT PARTICULARLY HELPFUL.

NOW I DID NOT LOOK AT BTDS BECAUSE OF MY HISTORY WITH THEM IN THE LAST CYCLE.

WHEN I DID WITH CONSULT, MY HEAD IS I SAID, BECAUSE OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED SPECIFICALLY WITH THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

AND HE USED TO AUSTIN, WE NEED TO GO WITH THE PRE, WE NEED TO GO TO THE BLOCK LEVEL AND TRY TO ASSEMBLE AS MUCH OF A BLACK COMMUNITY AS WE CAN ASSEMBLE YOU.

AIN'T GOING TO ASSEMBLE THAT AT ANY POLICING, WHICH PDDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENT IN ANY PRECINCT.

I SUPERVISE WITH METOPROLOL DEALING WITH AN ENTIRE CITY OF THIS SIZE.

BTDS I HAVE DONE OTHER CITIES AND HAVE MADE THE SAME DECISION IN OTHER CENSUS AREAS WHERE THE BTDS AND OTHER YEARS OF CORRESPONDED TO SOMETHING FLOATING PRECINCT, BUT THE EXPERIENCE FROM 10 YEARS AGO AND WHAT I WAS, WE WERE TOLD BY THE ELECTION ADMINISTRATOR ABOUT HER OWN REASONS.

NOW I LOOKED AT AND SAID, WE MIGHT GO BY MUMBLY PAGE IS TRYING TO USE ANYTHING OTHER THAN FOX.

I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT I HAVE USED BLOCKS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS TO RESIGN.

YOU KNOW, IF I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF ONE, THEN BTDS ARE FINE.

I MEAN, IF YOU KNOW, 80% BLACK IN EVERY DIRECTION CARES, BUT AT THE EDGES I HAVE EVEN IN AREAS THAT ARE CONSPICUOUSLY PROTECTED, I HAVE GONE AND GOTTEN A BLOCK HERE AND DUMPED A BLOCK THERE BECAUSE THE MOVEMENT OF MINORITY GROUPS AND THE MOVEMENT OF WHITES VERSUS MINORITY OFTEN DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH EVERYBODY IN A PRECINCT GETTING SHUT DOWN.

THIS BLOCK TURNS WHITE, THIS BLOCK DOESN'T SO YOU DON'T THIS BLOCK AND YOU MOVED THAT BAR IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL.

AND SO THAT'S HOW YOU DO WHAT GEORGE AND I HAVE BEEN DOING.

MOST OF OUR ADULT LIVES THIS TIME, WE DIDN'T BOTHER TO CHECK.

WE JUST STARTED THERE AND WENT FROM THERE TO TRY TO FIND AS MANY AFRICAN AMERICANS AS WE POSSIBLY COULD.

I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT OUR MAP AND HERE IS YOU'RE GOING TO FIND THERE ISN'T TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCES BECAUSE THERE JUST AREN'T THAT MANY BLACK PEOPLE LEFT.

AND HE USED TO AUSTIN, WHAT WE DID FOR INSTANCE, AS WE LEFT THE LBJ SCHOOL, BECAUSE OUR LEADERSHIP THANKS TO THE LBJS MUSEUM AND SCHOOL OR IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY, WE TOOK ALL THE WHITE PEOPLE SOUTH OF THERE.

AND JUST LIKE THEM, WE GAVE IT TO THAT.

OKAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING YOU DO AT THE BLOCK LEVEL.

I DON'T, I DOUBT THERE'S A BGP MAYBE, BUT THAT'S THE SORT OF THING YOU DO LAST TIME WHEN YOUR PREDECESSOR, IT THEY'VE KNOWN A LOT OF BLACK PEOPLE LIVING EAST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.

SO THIS LEFT THE BANK UP AND SAID, WE'LL JUST THROW IT IN.

THAT DOES NO LONGER TRUE.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S THOSE KINDS OF VARIATIONS AND THOSE KINDS OF DIFFERENCES IN APPROACH, HIS APPROACH IS NOT SOME NEFARIOUS PLOT.

CHRISTIAN, ARE YOU, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT IN RESPONSE? YES.

WE MOVED SOMETHING AND WE HAD TO EXPAND FOR WORK TO MAKE IT SOMETHING LESS THAN 20% UNDER SIZE.

AND GEORGE TOOK A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPROACH.

I THINK IT'S THE SAME APPROACH, THE SAME PROBLEM WE DID RESOLVE IT.

AS I SAID,

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WE ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH GEORGE AND TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT, OUR OFFICIAL POSITION.

I THINK STRESS IS IT? YES, MA'AM THIS THE FOUR DISTRICTS AND THE REST OF WHAT YOU DO NOT MEAN THAT THIS WAS BUILDING NATURE PYRAMID AND SAYING, THIS APPROACH NEEDS TO BE THE, WHERE YOU START.

WHEN YOU ALSO STRESS.

WE REALLY WORK MOUNT BAKER TO MOUNT BAKER TO GET CARDS, BUT ESPECIALLY IN THE BLACK DISTRICT, IF ANYTHING, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME WAX.

AND AS FAR AS THE OTHER DISTRICTS ARE CONCERNED, WELL, WE CAN WORK THROUGH THE DETAILS TO MAKE THOSE.

SO WHAT WE DO NOT WANT TO DO IS SACRIFICE ANY BLACKS OR ANY HISPANICS IN THESE FOUR DISTRICTS.

AND MY COALITION HAS OFFERED ME TO SAY THAT WE WOULD OBJECT, BUT WE WOULDN'T JACK ANYTHING THAT DIMINISHERS AND NUMBERS THAT WE WILL COME UP WITH REAL SUPPORT, ANYTHING, PLEASE.

THAT'S JUST A STRAIGHTFORWARD LINE, BUT WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR JOINING THE CITY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DEFENDING MINORITY REPRESENTATION.

SORRY.

THAT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, UM, YOU HAVE NOT BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR CAUSE IT'S DIRECTLY, I THINK IT WAS DIRECTED AT THE ENTIRE CONDITION.

OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. YOUNG, DO WE HAVE ANY CONTROL AS IN MOVE ON TO ANY QUESTIONS? I APPRECIATE YOU, MR. YANG.

UM, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS FROM THE REST OF THE COMMISSION COMMISSIONER YOU HI, MR. YOUNG.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

UM, AND, AND PLEASE, EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE.

UM, I KNOW OF COURSE YOU REPRESENT THE NAACP AND HISPANIC COALITION AND, UM, I'M JUST, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED WAS THAT ASIAN POPULATIONS IS RATHER SMALL.

UM, IT'S, IT'S RATHER SMALL AND NOT CONCENTRATING.

IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT WHERE YOU TO BE FOUND TO BE IN THIS GROUP, DISCRIMINATED AGAINST PARTY ROOM.

I'VE DONE THIS, HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH AGENCY LEADERS REPRESENT THE COUNCIL.

YOU ALL ARE NOT CONCENTRATED ENOUGH FOR US TO JOIN A DISTRICT.

UH, I'M NOT, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT MY QUESTION, BUT I, UH, APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I'M JUST, UM, I DO FEEL LIKE I, I AM A MINORITY, UM, IN ONE OF YOUR, I'M NOT ASKING FOR A WHOLE DISTRICT, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO CREATE MINORITY, UH, DISTRICTS, WOULD IT, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO DUMP US IN HERE TOO, TO KIND OF ADD TO YOUR NUMBERS? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW HAS TO DO WITH REGULATIONS ABOUT REPRESENTATION.

I WORKED WITH THE COAST, VIETNAMESE FISH, GEORGE, AND MIRACO WHEN BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST SOMEWHERE, PHYSICALLY THE SOLUTION SEGREGATION DISCRIMINATION AS A GEOGRAPHIC ASPECT.

I THINK THAT THE GENDER OCCASION PROCESS DEALING WITH DEALING WITH DETERMINATION THAT HAS TO DO WITH SEGREGATION.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT AGENTS ARE NOT TERRIBLY TREATED SO FAR.

WE HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT WHAT YOU CREATE.

YOU DO, BRITTANY YOU IN THE PROCESS OF GEOGRAPHIC REPRESENTATION IS EXTREMELY GUILTY BECAUSE OF THE WAY.

AND I TRIED TO FIX IT, BUT THAT'S NOT TERMINATING CLASS,

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BUT THAT'S THE TRUTH.

OH, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT.

I WAS WONDERING IF, IF, UH, I THINK WHAT, LET ME TRY TO PARAPHRASE WHAT I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO ME TO SEE IF I UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT POPULATION, THE ASIAN POPULATION CAN'T BE CONSIDERED IN THIS PARTICULAR, UH, ANALYSIS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONSIDERED TO BE A POPULATION THAT, THAT HAS BEEN DISCRIMINATED AGAINST IN TERMS OF, UH, GEOGRAPHIC REPRESENTATION.

IS IT A POPULATION THAT IS NOT FOUND TO BE HAVING BEEN DISCRIMINATED AGAINST, TO BE FOR YOU TO BE EXCLUDED? OKAY.

OKAY.

I'M IN SUBSETS, BUT THE ASIAN COMMUNITY IS TOO LARGE TO HAVE BEEN FOUND.

SORRY, IT'S JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS, MAYBE A SPLIT NUMBER DIFFERENCE ON A COUPLE OF THESE THINGS.

SO ONE THING I'M WONDERING THIS WORKS IN GENERAL, I'M PUTTING THIS OUT HERE.

I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW AS WE MOVE FORWARD, IF WE WERE TO ADOPT THE NAACP AND HISPANIC COALITION MAPS IN THEIR ENTIRETY, WHAT EFFECT THAT WOULD HAVE ON THE REST OF OUR MAPS.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED BEFORE WE CAN REALLY ADDRESS THIS, AND WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT IT AND ANSWER FOR OURSELVES.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS THE CORNERSTONE FOR THE REST OF THE MATH, WHAT THE DOWNSTREAM CONSEQUENCES ARE AS WE GO AHEAD, BEFORE WE EVALUATE THESE AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER SORT OF OBSERVATIONAL, LIKE IS YOUR, WHY APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH MATT? YOU'VE ALREADY TOLD US MULTIPLE TIMES IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT SIX OF THE DISTRICTS.

SO YES, THANK, BUT THERE'S AN ASPECT OF THAT THAT I THINK SOME MYSTERIES HAVE MADE POINTED OUT.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT PROBLEMATIC WHEN OUR JOB IS TO CREATE 10 DISTRICTS THAT REPRESENT THE CITY BLOCK.

SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO BRING OUT AS A STARTING POINT IS MY INCLINATION WOULD BE TO BEGIN BY ACCEPTING THE NAACP COALITION MAPS AS A STARTING POINT TO BEGIN WITH, AND THEN WORK WITH THE CONSEQUENCES AND SEE WHAT NEEDS TO BE NEGOTIATED, BUT YOUR OFFER TO HELP ON THE MAPS RINGS HOLLOW, GIVEN THE WAY THAT IT'S BEING PRESENTED TO US, THAT THE OTHER SISTERS ARE NOT YOUR CONCERN, BUT THEY ARE OUR CONCERN.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

MY POSITION IS I'VE REPRESENTED PEOPLE REALLY TO WORK WITH YOUR MAPMAKER TO MAKE HER PROCESS AS RATIONAL AS POSSIBLE.

BUT I CARE AS A PERSON, WHAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE WAITING FOR COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE OF MY CLIENT, RIGHT? AND I APPRECIATE THAT WILLINGNESS, BUT IT'S ONLY, IT ONLY MEANS SO MUCH.

AND THAT'S THE OBSERVATION I'M MAKING AIRPORT, THE REST OF THE CITY.

IT'S A PART OF THIS.

AS I SAID, I MIGHT PUT MY PR OR 93 YEARS.

BECAUSE OF THE, EVERYTHING, BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY, BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID, I DON'T THINK THERE'S BECAUSE OF THE LAW.

BUT BEYOND THAT, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, NOT MAKE HER TO MACRAME FOR YOU GUYS, GOING BACK AND WORKING ON SOMETHING BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED IT TO US.

NOT FOR HIM.

IT DOESN'T LET US, I DIDN'T LIKE IN 1971 HAVING ELECTED THE FIRST BLACK JUDGE IN 93 YEARS.

I DIDN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT SIX YEARS LATER, TWO WHITE MEN TOLD BLACKS.

THEY COULD HAVE THEM HERE WITH WHITE MEN, WHITE.

THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS I DON'T LIKE ABOUT STUFF.

AND I'M TELLING YOU, YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO DO A CITY.

I'M TAKING THE POSITION OF THE MINORITY COMMUNITY AS A RIGHT TO STAY TO CLAIM.

WHAT'S JUST FOR THEM, MENTAL WHITE PEOPLE WERE CHANGED.

SO THEY NEED TO FIX THEIR OWN.

WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A SYSTEM AND WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE BEAT ON THE DETAILS.

WHITE FOLKS GET TO FIX THEIR OWN, THEIR OWN MAPS WE CAN LIVE WITH.

WE COULD LIVE WITHOUT EVER HAVING A VOICE IN OUR GOVERNMENT.

NO, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE PASSION THAT EVERYONE IS BRINGING TO THIS CONVERSATION.

I JUST WANT, JUST TO STEP BACK IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT A RECOMMENDATION AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND IT IS OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR MISSION, SORRY, I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER WORD, UH, TO DECIDE HOW TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD IN LIGHT OF THAT RECOMMENDATION.

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SO, UM, I, I PERSONALLY APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY THAT YOU ARE PRESENTING TO WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE, UM, I KNOW THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR PROCESS.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND ALSO JUST REMIND EVERYBODY IN THE LARGER PICTURE OF THINGS WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.

SO WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS, SORRY, LET ME JUST DO THIS.

SEE THAT HELPS.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD GIVEN THIS RECOMMENDATION AND THANK YOU SO MUCH ALSO FOR BRINGING THE PRONOUNCE BECAUSE THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL.

YOU'RE RECOMMENDING MR. HARDEN HAS THE FLOOR COMMENT.

I, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR, UH, THE EXTREMELY DETAILED WORK YOU'VE DONE IN HAVING YOUR DATA.

ONLY IN 72 HOURS.

I ALSO LIKED TO, UH, SHARE MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHY IT'S CRITICAL TO FOCUS ON FARMING, UH, UH, MINORITY OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS FIRST BECAUSE OF THE COST AND A SECT ANALYSIS THAT MIGHT OCCUR.

IF WE DRAW EVERYTHING ELSE FIRST AND DRAW OUR EXTRACT MINORITIES FROM WHERE THEY'RE MOST CONCENTRATED, WE WILL LESSEN THE OPPORTUNITY POSSIBLY WITHOUT KNOWING IT.

UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, THE BLOCK LEVEL DATA BECAUSE YOU REALLY CAN LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN WHAT BLOCK OF WHAT AVENUE AND WHAT ZIP CODE AND UNDERSTAND THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION THAT'S AT THAT BLOCK LEVEL.

UH, AS WE FUNCTION IN AN AGE OF GENTRIFICATION, UM, YOU CAN HAVE A WHAT'S CALLED AND QUAINT URBAN COTTAGE IN CENTRAL EAST.

THAT IS A 600 SQUARE FOOT WOOD FRAME HOME SITTING NEXT DOOR TO FREE BLOCKS OF MCMANSIONS WITH A NEW DEMOGRAPHIC.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE PRIORITY, THE URGENCY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF LOOKING AT AND FRAMING UP THE OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS FIRST AND USING THAT AS A CORNERSTONE FOR BUILDING OUT THE REST OF OUR MAPS.

HERE'S THE THING BASED ON RACE DEMOGRAPHICS, NO MATTER HOW WE CARVE UP THE REST OF THE CITY, PEOPLE OF THAT DEMOGRAPHIC WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO LOOKS LIKE THEM AND IDENTIFIES WITH THEM AND HAVE SOCIAL NORMS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM, REPRESENTING THEIR INTEREST ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

IF WE DO THE OPPOSITE, CHANCES ARE PEOPLE IN THE OPPORTUNITY.

DISTRICTS WILL NOT HAVE ANYONE ON THE CITY COUNCIL WHO LOOKS LIKE FAM HOW SOCIAL NORMS AS THEM ECONOMIC INTEREST, ENVIRONMENTAL INTEREST, OR ANYTHING ELSE.

AND SO I, I APPRECIATE, UH, THE PASSION IN WHAT YOU PRESENTED.

I UNDERSTAND, UH, THE SIXTH OR APPROACH TO STATE THE URGENCY.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT TIME AND JUST SHARE THAT WITH THE