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          CITIZENS COMMUNICATION. 
          [CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]
WE HAVE ONE, WE HAVE KRISTIN HA HASSON TALKING TO US ABOUT EVICTIONS. 
          OR DO YOU WANT TO TALK ON THE ITEM? WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ON THE ITEM OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO, YOU HAVE, OKAY, GO AHEAD. 
          GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          MY NAME IS CHRISTIAN HASSON AND I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FIVE. 
          I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE COMING EVICTION CRISIS AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO MEAN FOR AUSTIN AUSTIN'S PETS AND FAMILIES. 
          SO WE AT AMERICAN PETS LIVE THE ORGANIZATION THAT I REPRESENT HAVE CREATED A CALCULATOR THAT ESTIMATES THE NUMBER OF PETS THAT WILL BE AT RISK OF LOSING HOUSING DUE TO THE COMING EVICTION CRISIS. 
          AND HERE IN AUSTIN, THAT NUMBER IS POTENTIALLY OVER 38,000 ANIMALS. 
          THAT COULD BE AT RISK OF LOSING THEIR HOUSING. 
          THE EVICTION CRISIS REALLY HASN'T KICKED IN FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN AUSTIN ALREADY HAS A PROBLEM WITH PET ACCESSIBLE HOUSING PET ACCESSIBLE HOUSING IS DISTINGUISHED FROM PET FRIENDLY HOUSING PET FRIENDLY HOUSING IS ANY HOUSING THAT ALLOWS ONE PET PET ACCESSIBLE HOUSING IS HOUSING THAT DOESN'T HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON THE TYPES OF PETS THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE. 
          AND THE NUMBER OF PETS PEOPLE CAN HAVE. 
          AUSTIN ALREADY HAS A CRISIS WITH PET ACCESSIBLE HOUSING, WHICH IS A BIG PART OF THE REASON THAT WE HAVE SO MANY MEDIUM AND LARGE DOGS IN THE SHELTER. 
          THIS WILL BE GREATLY COMPOUNDED BY THE EVICTION CRISIS. 
          WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW IS WE NEED TO SET UP PROGRAMS TO TEMPORARILY BOARD PETS WHOSE OWNERS ARE FACING EVICTION. 
          WE NEED TO SET UP PROGRAMS TO FOSTER PETS WHOSE OWNERS ARE FACING EVICTION. 
          THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT MOST PEOPLE GET BACK ON THEIR FEET AND GET INTO HOUSING WITHIN 30 TO 90 DAYS, BUT THEY NEED THAT TIME. 
          AND IF WE DON'T CREATE MECHANISMS NOW IN THE CITY TO BUILD THAT WE WILL FACE A LOT MORE ANIMALS ENTERING THE SHELTER. 
          AND THE LAST THING I'LL ADD IS I REPRESENT NOT ONLY AMERICAN PETS ALIVE, BUT HUMAN ANIMAL SUPPORT SERVICES, WE'VE CREATED THE NATION'S ONLY TOOLKIT TO ADDRESS THE EVICTION CRISIS. 
          IT IS ON THE HUMAN ANIMAL SUPPORT SERVICES WEBSITE, AND IT GIVES YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED. 
          IT HAS BEEN ACCESSED IN ALL 50 STATES IN MORE THAN A HUNDRED NATIONS. 
          PEOPLE ARE TURNING TO THIS TOOLKIT ALL OVER THE WORLD BECAUSE THIS CRISIS ISN'T JUST HERE IN THE US, BUT THE TOOLS AND RESOURCES, AND IT SHOULD BE USED IN AUSTIN AND THEY SHOULD BE USED NOW TO PREVENT POTENTIALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ANIMALS FROM ENTERING THE SYSTEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, NEXT 
          [1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AND HAS EVERYBODY GOT A CHANCE TO READ THE DRAFT MINUTES? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THEM. 
          SO KATIE MOVES TO APPROVE THEM. 
          DO I HEAR A SECOND EDWARD SECONDS? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? KAY, IF NOT, THEN LET'S VOTE ALL IN FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ALL OPPOSED. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          OKAY. 
          [2a. Austin Animal Center and Animal Services Reports.]
SO LET'S MOVE ON TO STAFF BRIEFINGS. 
          LAST ANIMAL CENTER AND ANIMAL SERVICES REPORT. 
          DON BLAND. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT HAPPENED IN AUGUST. 
          THE LIVE OUTCOME PERCENTAGE FOR AUGUST WAS 97.5%. 
          WE HAD A TOTAL OF 1,240 ANIMALS BROUGHT INTO THE SHELTER. 
          IT INCLUDED 607 DOGS, 567 CATS, 15 WILD ANIMALS AND FOUR BIRDS. 
          A TOTAL OF 833 ANIMALS WERE ADOPTED, UM, AND A TOTAL OF 121 DOGS AND CATS ARE RETURNED TO THE OWNERS THROUGH EITHER RETURNING TO OWNER OR RETURN OWNER ADOPT APS. 
          WERE WE ABLE TO RETURN 40 ANIMALS TO THEIR OWNERS IN THE FIELD? WE DID HAND OUT 26 FENCING APPLICATIONS AND IMPOUNDED 172 INJURED ANIMALS AND, UH, DELIVERED 96 WILDLIFE ANIMALS, SALTS AND WILDLIFE RESCUE. 
          WE DID ENTER 152 RABIES EXPOSURE REPORTS AND SO FORTH AND SUB MEETED 49 SPECIMENS ARRAY WITH TESTING, WE'D HAVE FOUR BATS THAT TESTED POSITIVE. 
          UH, A TOTAL OF 88 VOLUNTEERS DONATED 1,712 HOURS. 
          DURING AUGUST. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, FOUR ORIENTATIONS FOR NEW VOLUNTEERS. 
          WE, AND INTRODUCING 88 PEOPLE TO THE SHELTER PROGRAMS. UM, 31 NEW VOLUNTEERS ATTENDED THEIR FIRST TRAINING OR MENTORSHIPS IN AUGUST. 
          WE HAD 240 MORE THAN 240 FAMILIES PROVIDE FOSTER CARE AND TOTAL 116 HUNDRED NINE ANIMALS WERE ADOPTED DIRECTLY FROM FOSTER. 
          CURRENTLY THERE'S 369, 9,000 IN FOSTER HOMES, 303 ANIMALS WERE TRANSFERRED TO 22, UH, RESCUE PARTNERS. 
          UM, WITHIN VET SERVICES, WE HAD, HE HAD 60 EMERGENCY CASES THAT WERE TREATED BY OUR VETS. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO PERFORM 663 SPAY NEUTER SURGERIES, 
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SIX OR THE PDX SURGERIES WITHIN PRC. 
          THEY WERE ABLE TO HAND OUT 747 BASIC ITEMS, INCLUDING FOOD BEDS ALECIA'S AND WE'RE ABLE TO DEFER 10 DOGS THAT HAD BEHAVIOR ISSUES. 
          UH, 80 FOUND ANIMAL REPORTS WERE, WERE SUBMITTED AS ALONG WITH 37 LOST ANIMAL REPORTS FILED. 
          UM, AND WE DID GET A 126 NEW SUBSCRIBERS TO LOST AND FOUND HEX PROGRAMMER TECH'S PROGRAM. 
          KICK IT OFF TO DON FOR THE COVID UPDATE. 
          YEAH, THERE WE GO. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, WE HAVE HAD MORE EMPLOYEES AND STAFF TEST POSITIVE FOR COVID DURING THIS SHORT COUPLE OF MONTHS THAN WE HAD ALL THE PREVIOUS YEAR. 
          SO WE, WE IT'S IT'S AFFECTED US, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEE WISE. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD VERY FEW FOLKS THAT, UH, HAVE NOT WANTED TO COMPLY WITH WEARING A MASK WHEN THEY COME INTO THE SHELTER. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT VISITORS. 
          UH, MOST OF THE PEOPLE, UH, HAVE NO ISSUE AND THEY'LL PUT THE MASK ON AND WEAR IT. 
          IF THEY DON'T HAVE ONE, THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE OR TWO THAT HAVE, HAVE HAD REAL ISSUE WITH THAT. 
          SO MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE COMPLYING AND, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP EVERYONE SAFE AS POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, DURING IT WE'VE CON THIS PAST YEAR AND A HALF, WE'VE CONTINUED TO PROVE AND, AND ADD NEW TECHNOLOGY. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH WAS OUR HOME TO HOME GETTING ROLLED OUT AND THEY REPORT THAT IT'S GETTING REALLY GOOD TRACTION AND SEEING A LOT OF USAGE. 
          WE ARE HAVING A, UH, CLEAR THE SHELTER EVENT ON THE 18TH AND WE'RE OPENING TWO HOURS EARLIER THAN OUR NORMAL SATURDAY. 
          AND, UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF FOSTERS THAT ARE BRINGING THEIR FOSTER ANIMALS ONSITE THAT DAY ALSO TO TRY TO GET THEM ADOPTED SO THEY CAN PULL SOME MORE, THE BAD NEWS THAT I HAVE IS THAT THE, OUR GENERATOR THAT DID NOT KICK ON DURING A STORM YURI, BECAUSE IT, WE DIDN'T NEED IT. 
          WE NEVER LOST ELECTRICITY. 
          BUT WEEK BEFORE LAST ON SUNDAY, WE LOST ELECTRICITY FOR TWO HOURS AND IT DIDN'T CUT ON, UH, THE ENGINE WAS FROZEN AND BUSTED THE BLOCK. 
          AND SO WE HAVE A $298,000 EXPENSE THAT WE WEREN'T EXPECTING AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. 
          AND IT'S GOING TO BE A SIX MONTH PROJECT TO GET IT. 
          SO THEY'LL GET A, GET A TEMPORARY GENERATOR ON SITE WHILE THEY REPAIR THE, GET A NEW ONE. 
          SO THAT'S OUR DISAPPOINTING NEWS THAT WE RECEIVED LAST WEEK. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          UH, THE QUESTION, THANK YOU. 
          UM, WHAT, HAS THERE BEEN ANY CHANGE TO THE HOURS FOR THE RESOURCE CENTER AND INTAKE? AND COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THAT? WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY CHANGE AT THIS POINT. 
          I KNOW THAT, UM, MARK AND HR HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET PEOPLE HIRED. 
          AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT ABOUT ON THE REQUEST OF SHIFTING? SO IT'S NOT TWO WEEKEND DAYS THAT YOU'RE CLOSE, SHIFTING TO A WEEK? WELL, HE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND OUR WEEKENDS HAVE HISTORICALLY EVEN WHEN WE WERE OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS, BEEN OUR LOWEST INTAKE DAYS. 
          SO COULD YOU PROVIDE A COPY OF THAT DATA THAT'S BEEN USED FOR THAT DECISION? SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION, KATIE, ON THE DATA CHARTS WHERE IT SAYS, UM, ON THE TOTAL OUTCOMES, THERE'S THE ALIGNED FOR TRANSFER ON, ON EACH BLOCK. 
          AND DOES THAT INCLUDE TRANSFER TO LOCAL PARTNERS AND TRANSPORT OUT OF STATE? IS THERE A WAY TO BREAK THOSE TWO NUMBERS DOWN IN THE FUTURE? SO WE SEE THE TRANSPORT NUMBERS OUT OF STATE AND THE TRANSFER TO LOCAL PARTNERS SEPARATELY. 
          THANKS. 
          YES, RYAN, HOW MANY TRANSPORTS WE HAD ONE DONE LAST MONTH. 
          AND WHAT COMMUNITY DID IT GO TO TO SPLIT WHEN WE WENT TO NORTHWOODS HUMANE SOCIETY AND WAS GOOD. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          SORRY. 
          NORTHWOODS HUMANE SOCIETY IN WISCON. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S THE SAME ONE THAT THE, SOME, A COUPLE WENT TO THE MONTH BEFORE, IS THAT RIGHT? TOTAL OF FIVE TRANSPORT SINCE WE STARTED THE PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          UM, ON THE SPAY NEUTER NUMBERS, 663, IS THAT, UH, INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL 
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OR THAT JUST INTERNAL? DO WE HAVE AN APPROXIMATION FOR HOW MANY ARE DONE EXTERNAL? CAUSE WE WERE JUST LOOKING BACK AT THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AND I NOTED THAT THERE WAS A, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE REPORTING THE EXTERNAL NUMBERS TO DO WE HAVE A ROUGH GUESS AT HOW MANY THAT IS PERMITTED? UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T USUALLY WHEN WE WORK WITH A MANTA PET, THEY'RE USUALLY A MONTH BEHIND ON SENDING US INVOICES AND YOU KNOW, THE AUTOMATED EXCUSES WEREN'T BUT THEIR PANDEMIC WAS HARD ON THEM AS WELL. 
          SO WHENEVER WE GET INVOICES, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ABOUT UP TO MAY, UM, MAYBE SOME, SOME NUMBERS FOR JUNE THE SAME WITH AHS AS WELL, BECAUSE WE ALSO COUNT THE COMMUNITY CATS. 
          DO YOU KNOW ROUGHLY HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE LOOKING AT, EVEN IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT A MONTHLY NUMBER FROM MAY LAST TIME I LOOKED THE DATA CAUSE WE WERE DOING A QUARTERLY REPORT. 
          UM, AND I CAN, I CAN VERIFY THAT WITH AN EMAIL, JUST TO VERBALLY, IT WAS A, IT WAS, UH, 2 46. 
          UM, AND THEN IT CHANGES FROM MONTH TO MONTH, BUT I IT'S AT LEAST A COUPLE OF HUNDRED EACH MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING FOR. 
          I'M NOT EXPECTING YOU TO PICK OUT NUMBERS FROM YOUR HEAD, UH, THE $300,000 FOR THE GENERATOR. 
          IS THAT GOING TO COME OUT OF ANIMAL SERVICES BUDGET OR IS THAT GOING TO COME OUT OF A DIFFERENT FACILITIES? BUDGET? THE BUDGET OFFICE IS TRYING TO LOCATE FUNDING FOR US. 
          SOME OF IT I'M SURE WILL HAVE TO COME FROM OUR BUDGET, BUT THEY WILL TRY TO FIND IT AND IDENTIFY SOME FUNDING FOR US. 
          IS THAT NORMAL THAT A DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR ITS OWN GENERATOR. 
          I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE SINCE ONE PUT IN, SO I DON'T KNOW. 
          USUALLY, UH, YEAH, CORPORATE WILL WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, IF THERE'S ONE TIME EXPENSES TO SEE WHAT FUNDING MAY EXIST THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, AND THEN TRY TO SUPPLEMENT THAT, UM, AS MUCH AS THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, PART OF THIS PART OF THE 300,000 IS, IS INCLUDING THE, LIKE DON SAID THE, THE GENERATOR ITSELF, SORT OF THE LOGISTICS TO GET THAT GENERATOR BECAUSE OUR GENERATORS MASSIVE, IT HAS TO STAY ON AND THEN MULTIPLE FOR MULTIPLE WEEKS. 
          AND THEN THE, THE TEMPORARY GENERATOR THAT'S GOING TO BE IN TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE POWER. 
          SO THE COSTS ADDED UP FOR THE, UH, THREE LIVESTOCK. 
          JUST CURIOUS, WHAT WERE THOSE, DO YOU KNOW, THEY GOT ADOPTED OUT PIGS, PIGS. 
          WELL, THAT'S AWESOME THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT. 
          UM, THERE STILL COMMUNITIES WHERE, UH, I SEE PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, YOU JUST CAN'T ADOPT THEM OUT. 
          YOU JUST CAN'T DO IT. 
          UH, SO THAT'S AWESOME THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO THE EFFORT TO DO THAT. 
          THANK YOU, RYAN. 
          SORRY. 
          THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE HAVING VIRTUAL. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          DID YOU GUYS HEAR HIM? HIS ANSWERS AT LEAST, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          DO I NEED TO REPEAT ANYTHING? NO. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          OH, OH YEAH. 
          I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. 
          SO, UM, ON YOUR ANIMAL SERVICES REPORT, YOU SAY THAT THERE WERE 127 NEW FOSTER APPLICATIONS WERE PROCESSED. 
          UM, HOW MANY DO WE KNOW HOW MANY APPLICATIONS FOR FOSTERS ARE STILL PENDING? AND HAVEN'T BEEN, UH, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHEN I SPOKE WITH STAFF ABOUT THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO, ACTUALLY WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY DECENT TURNAROUND TIME ON GETTING, OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4 AT LEAST FOSTER CORNERS, RESCUE FOSTER PARTNERS, AND THEY ALL HAVE ACCESS TO THE FOSTER EMAIL ACCOUNT SO THEY CAN GO IN THERE AND, AND UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT APPLICATIONS AND THEN FOLLOW UP AS NECESSARY. 
          SO AT BEST THEY CAN DO IT SAME DAY AS THE, AT FIRST IT MAY BE A DAY OR TWO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BASICALLY IT SOUNDS THEN LIKE, AS YOU'RE, THEY'RE GETTING FOSTER APPLICATIONS THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON SOME MATH HERE. 
          SO YOU SAY 303 ANIMALS WERE TRANSFERRED TO PARTNERS, BUT 163 CATS AND 93 DOGS IS 256. 
          SO WHAT IS THE DELTA OF 4,700? I THINK THE OTHER THING IS WILDLIFE BECAUSE WE COUNT THE WILDLIFE TRANSFERS, BUT I'LL, I'LL HAVE TO VERIFY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING, SO THERE WAS LIKE 47 WILDLIFE TRANSFERRED SOMEWHERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UH, THE GENERATOR, UM, SO IT IT'S, I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT YOU'RE IT'S $298,000 IS WHAT YOU SAID. 
          AND THE CITY COUNCIL JUST APPROVED $300,000 OR SOMETHING. 
          IS THAT GOING TO BE USED FOR THE GENERATOR? NO. 
          NO, BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL HAD ALLOCATED THAT FOR OTHER SPECIFIC PURPOSES, OTHER SPECIFIC. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WASN'T, THAT WASN'T WHAT THE 300,000 REQUESTS WAS FOR. 
          NO, BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS AN UNFORESEEN SORT OF EXPENSE THAT WE'RE NOW HAVING TO SORT OF SCRAMBLE TO, TO TAKE CARE OF. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IF IT'S, IF IT'S ALLOCATED FOR SOMETHING ELSE, IT CAN'T BE USED FOR THE GENERATOR. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? YES. 
          CAUSE THAT'S THE COUNCIL ACTION WITHIN THE BUDGET. 
          THE BUDGET GAVE IT TO OTHER, YOU KNOW, ALLOCATED THAT MONEY OUT FOR THOSE SPECIFIC PURPOSES. 
          UH, 
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I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          IF YOU HAVE A BEHAVIORAL DOG, LET'S SAY THAT'S BEEN STAYING THERE A LONG TIME. 
          WHAT IS THE POLICY ON GETTING THAT DOG NEUTERED? AS SOON AS IT'S AVAILABLE HEALTH WISE OR STRAY HOLD WISE, WE TRY TO GET THEM NEUTERED. 
          ALL THE DOGS THAT WERE AVAILABLE, UH, AS OF TODAY, WAS IT 96% OF THEM HAVE ALREADY BEEN SPAYED OR NEUTERED. 
          OKAY. 
          HEY. 
          CAUSE IT, IT, UH, IT, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME LIKE IF IT'S A BEHAVIORAL PROBLEM AND I MAY BE WRONG ON THIS, BUT WITH MY LIMITED EXPERIENCE IS THAT IF YOU GET THEM NEUTERED, THAT LOT, PARTICULARLY MALE DOGS, A LOT OF TIMES THAT MAKES THEM EASIER TO DEAL WITH. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS CONSIDER WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, WORK OUT WHO GETS, WHAT, WHEN THAT IS TRUE DOGS THAT ROAM AND GET OUT. 
          IF, IF THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, NEUTERED, THEN THEY HAVE A LESS TENDENCY TO ROME. 
          UH, THOSE HORMONE LEVELS. 
          IT DOES TAKE A WHILE. 
          IF I'M, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK ALL THE VETS, BUT IT'S NOT INSTANTANEOUS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT WILL LOWER THEIR, THEIR HORMONE LEVELS. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          CAUSE I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I KEEP THINKING ABOUT ALL THOSE, YOU KNOW, DOGS THAT GET STUCK THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THAT COULD HELP, BUT I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A POLICY ON THAT OR NOT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND MOST OF THOSE LONG STAYS HAVE BEEN NEUTERED FOR MOST OF THEIR LENGTH OF STAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, CRAIG, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT JASON HAD SAID ABOUT THE $300,000 THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR OTHER THINGS OR THE OTHER THINGS. 
          OH, GIVE MEAN, UH, WE HAD FUNDING THAT WE ALREADY HAD IN OUR SYSTEM. 
          SOME OF IT WAS GRANT FUNDED AND SOME OF IT WAS OUR FUNDING THAT, UM, WAS FAR K9 GRASS TO IMPROVE OUR PLAY ARDS AND THAT MONEY WAS ALREADY IN OUR BUDGET. 
          BUT BECAUSE IT'S OVER THE LIMIT THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN APPROVE IT, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE MONEY, IT HAS TO GO TO COUNCIL TO GET APPROVAL, TO SPEND THE MONEY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND IS, SO IS ALL OF THAT 300,000 FOR CANINE GROUND? IT WON'T BE THAT COMPLETE AMOUNT. 
          UM, I THINK THIS FIRST ROUND IS LIKE $168,000 AND WHAT'S THE, THEN WHAT'S THE BALANCE FOR, I GUESS, WELL, THAT'S FUNDING. 
          WE DON'T HAVE YET AT THIS POINT WE CAN SPEND UP TO THAT. 
          BUT THIS YEAR WE ONLY HAD FUNDING TO SPEND WITH THE GRANT FUNDING AND OUR OFFENDING ONLY 168,000. 
          SO 168,000 FOR CANINE GRASS. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I WILL SAY, JUST ADD ON DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, UM, OUR BILLING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WHICH SUPPORTS, UH, THE ANIMALS ANIMAL CENTER, THEY WERE PROVIDED A COUPLE OF HUNDRED, I BELIEVE IT WAS A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THEIR BUDGET FOR, FOR, FOR THE CANINE GRASS PROJECT. 
          CAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY DOING AN ALL OUR PLAY YARDS POSSIBLY EVEN NEEDED DOING IT IN THE SWEETS, CONSIDERING THE GRASS, THE CARPETING THAT WAS, THAT WAS INFRINGEMENT. 
          WE SAW THERE HAS BEEN RIPPED UP AND WHATNOT. 
          UM, YEAH, SO WE DID GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THOSE SPECIFIC PURSES AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO WE'D HAVE TO, IF WE NEEDED IT AGAIN, AS WE IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL FUNDING OPTIONS, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WEIGH OUT ALL THE OPTIONS IN ORDER TO, TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PRIORITY FIRST. 
          WELL, I GUESS JUST ONE FOLLOW UP INTO THAT. 
          SO THEN COUNCIL, I GUESS CAN'T RE THE $300,000 TO TAKE CARE OF THE GENERATOR, WHICH I THINK MATA WAS KIND OF ASKING ABOUT A MINUTE AGO. 
          WELL, THAT THAT'S IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE NEED TO START ON THIS IMMEDIATELY. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY FUNDING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR US. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          L ELMER, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THAT. 
          WHEN WAS THE DECISION OR THE REQUEST MADE FOR THE ALLOCATION FOR THE 300,000 FOR ASTROTURF? GOSH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN DECEMBER OF 2019. 
          WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT CANINE GRASS BACK THEN THE REQUESTS SUBMITTED AND FINALIZED. 
          UM, AT LEAST FROM AT LEAST WITHIN THE BUDGETARY PROCESS, IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED APRIL, APRIL, UM, THROUGH DO BILLION TERRACES. 
          ONCE WE, UM, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF WITH THE EXISTING GRANT FUNDING THAT WE HAD. 
          UM, IT IS ONLY ABOUT $50,000. 
          UH, WE HAD TO GET COUNCIL APPROVAL FIRST. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE GRANT FUND WAS FOR 50,000 FOR WHAT WAS THE SPECIFICATIONS ON THE GRANT FUNDING? OH, UH, IT WAS PART OF, UH, LIFESAVING, UM, AND PART OF THE LIFE-SAVING MADDIE'S FUND GRANT WE HAVE ABOUT $60,000 LEFT. 
          THE ASTROTURF WAS PARTIALLY FUNDED BY 
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A LIFE-SAVING GRANT. 
          YES. 
          WHICH INCLUDES BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THAT'S THE KITTEN ANSWER HE WAS SPENDING FOR HIM. 
          WHEREAS ANYTHING ELSE DISCUSSED BEFORE DECISION WAS MADE ON THIS IN APRIL GIVEN WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON ANY OTHER PROGRAMS OR, UM, AREAS THAT COULD MAYBE HAVE USED SOME ENHANCEMENT OR SOME SUPPORT? WELL, WE, WE LOOKED AT, UH, WE USE FUNDING, UH, IMPROVE AND RE YOU KNOW, ALLOCATE FUNDING FOR OUR KITTEN NURSERY THAT WAS THERE. 
          DO YOU REMEMBER? IT WAS, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE TITLE WAS. 
          I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE FINAL COST OF THEM AND WHAT WE ALLOCATED FOR THAT. 
          UM, CAUSE THIS IS THE GRANT THAT HAS BEEN USED TO SUPPLEMENT THE, THE CANDLE OF THE NEW CANDLE PROJECT, THE ARTS. 
          UM, SO THERE WAS PRECEDENCE TO USE SORT OF THAT FOR, FOR BUILDING, BUT THERE'S 50,000 OF THAT LEFT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? SO THE REST DID NOT, WAS NOT FUNDED FROM THE GRANT, CORRECT? NO, NO. 
          YEAH, RIGHT RIGHT NOW REALLY WHAT WE GOT AUTHORIZATION ON, WHAT THE COUNCIL ITEM IS TO AUTHORIZE WHAT, WHAT COULD BE SPENT. 
          SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THOSE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS ARE CONTINGENT ON HOW WE, HOW WE GET, BUT WE AT LEAST HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION FROM COUNCIL TO, TO PAY FOR THE CANINE. 
          WELL, JUST I'M SPEAKING FROM MYSELF. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO HELP WITH THE CRISIS AND THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT SHELTER. 
          AND IT WAS UPSETTING TO HEAR THAT THAT MUCH MONEY HAD BEEN ASKED FOR AND ALLOCATED TO ASTROTURF WHEN THERE SO MANY OTHER AREAS THAT COULD USE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT RIGHT NOW. 
          AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS NEVER DISCUSSED AMONGST THE COMMISSION, THAT'S BEEN WORKING HARD TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR THE SHELTER. 
          AND WE HAD, WE'D MENTIONED THE CANINE GRASS, UH, NOT TO THE TUNE OF, OF WHAT, NOT TO THE SPECIFICS WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT. 
          NO, WE DID NOT. 
          WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY MONTHS AGO. 
          SO THAT JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT WAS VERY DISAPPOINTING TO SEE THAT A DECISION WAS MADE OF THAT MAGNITUDE DURING THIS TIME, WITHOUT ANY INVOLVEMENT OR DISCUSSION, UM, FROM ANYONE ELSE THAT'S BEEN TRYING TO ASSIST AND HELP WITH THE PROBLEMS YOU ALL HAVE BEEN FACING. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, JOANNE HAS A QUESTION. 
          UM, WELL THEY, UM, WORK ON THE PLAY ARTS, UM, FIX THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS THAT THE PLAY ARTS HAVE. 
          IT WILL, THEY WILL LEVEL THE PLILEY THAT LEVEL, THE SURFACE PUT IN SUBSURFACE AND LAYERS BEFORE THEY PUT THAT ON TOP. 
          WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY AS A, SOMEONE WHO'S ALSO A VOLUNTEER DOG WALKER THERE THAT I APPRECIATE THE PROJECT. 
          UM, IT IS DANGEROUS OR DOGS AND VOLUNTEERS TO BE IN THOSE PLAY CARDS. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY AFTER RAIN, THEY'RE MUDDY, IT'S, UH, THERE'S MUD PRINTS THAT STAY IN THE MUD. 
          SO WHEN YOU GO TO TAKE A DOG IN THERE, UM, YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT ORTHOPEDIC ISSUES, UM, WITH THE DOG SLIPPING, WITH THE, EVEN WHEN IT'S DRIED, IT'S HARD TO WALK ON. 
          UM, THE PLAYERS ARE BIG. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME OF THEM THAT HAVE TREES THAT, UM, HAVE PIECES COME DOWN AND VOLUNTEERS HAVE SLID AND FALL FALLEN. 
          AND THAT'S ONE OF MY BIGGEST FEARS IS, UH, SLIDING ON THE ROCKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S THERE. 
          I THINK THAT THIS WILL HELP THE ANIMALS AND I THINK IT WILL HELP THE VOLUNTEERS. 
          AND I THINK IT'LL HELP THE STAFF, ESPECIALLY THE PLAYGROUP STAFF, BECAUSE THOSE PLAY CARDS ARE SO MUDDY, UM, AFTER ANY KIND OF A RAIN EVENT. 
          SO, UM, I IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY. 
          I KNOW THE CITY PAYS A LIVING WAGE ON TO A MINIMUM WITH LIVING WAGE, TO CONTRACTORS THAT BOOST THE PRICES UP A BIT. 
          AND WE HAVE MANY, MANY GIANT PLAY YARDS, BUT, UM, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE GOT SOME GRANT FUNDING TO TRY TO MAKE EVERYTHING SAFER FOR US AND THE DOCS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT? UH, WHO IS THAT? LISA LISA, GO AHEAD. 
          YEAH, I GUESS THEN WHAT JOANNE SAYS, I APPRECIATE THAT POINT BECAUSE TO ME, IF IT'S SUCH A BENEFICIAL PROJECT THAT ALL THE MORE UNDERSCORES WHY WE SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSED IT AS A COMMISSION, BUT EXCITED ABOUT IT, IF IT'S SO GREAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SPENDING THAT MUCH MONEY, WHY WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO US TO DISCUSS, I MEAN, IF IT WAS THAT DIRE OF A PROBLEM OVER THERE WITH THE DRAINAGE, WHICH I APPRECIATE, AND I KNOW THE OLD DRAINAGE PROBLEMS OVER A FUEL TO LIKE FACILITY TOO. 
          I MEAN, I RECOGNIZE THE ISSUE AND I APPRECIATE IT, BUT IT'S DANGEROUS, BUT ALL THE MORE REASON JUST TO BRING IT FORWARD AND DISCUSS AS A COMMISSION. 
          SO I KIND OF ECHO PALMER SENTIMENTS ON THAT. 
          ANY OTHER BRIAN, I'LL TRY TO BE A LITTLE LOUDER. 
          UM, WE GOT AN EMAIL TODAY. 
          I'M SURE YOU GUYS DIDN'T SEE IT. 
          UM, MAYBE YOU DID, BUT WE GOT AN EMAIL TODAY OR YESTERDAY SAYING THAT THE TRANSPORT, 
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UH, VEHICLE WAS IN WAS TOTALED WAS IN AN ACCIDENT AND TOTALED. 
          UM, DO YOU GUYS KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE THAT TOOK THE TRANSPORT TO COLORADO, I GUESS THAT, THAT, THAT WAS INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT AFTER ALL OF OUR DOGS HAD BEEN DELIVERED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IS THAT, IS THAT OUR VEHICLE? IT WAS, UH, TRANSPORT THAT WE HIRE TO HAUL THE ANIMALS UP. 
          WE PAY. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S A THIRD PARTY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD HERE, UH, JASON, THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR GIVING US THE YEARS. 
          YOU KNOW, HOW YOU DID THIS TIME. 
          IT REALLY HELPS US SEE TRENDS BECAUSE I MEAN, I HAVE A READING ABOUT SHELTERS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THERE ARE SIMILAR TRENDS AND THAT HELPS ME ANYWAY. 
          SEE HOW WE COMPARE. 
          SO I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          LOTTA ONE MORE COMMON. 
          SO, BECAUSE I GOT CONFUSED. 
          SO IS IT THE 300,000 THAT WENT TO COUNCIL UP TO 300,000 THAT HAS TO BE USED THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE GENERATORS NEXT FISCAL YEAR? OR IS IT, IS IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND? I'M CONFUSED ON IT. 
          NO, THE, THE SPINNING THE MONEY FOR THE CANINE GRASS, UH, THAT WAS FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE GENERATOR. 
          WE'VE GOT TO GET IT STARTED THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WASN'T SURE OF WHICH, WHICH WAS WHICH, AND THEN OF THE 168,000, IS THAT ALL TWO THINGS, HOW MANY YARDS IS THAT COVERING? IS THAT SIMPLY FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION AND INSTALLATION OR IS IT ALSO GOING TO BE FOR THE MAINTENANCE? IT IS THE, UM, I DON'T KNOW, IT HAS A WARRANTY THAT'LL BE COVERED WITH THAT, BUT, UM, THERE'S REALLY NO MAINTENANCE TO IT AND IT WILL BE COVERING THE NEW, BOTH NEW PLAY YARDS, AS WELL AS THE OLD PLAY YARDS THAT THE ONE WE'RE CURRENTLY USING RIGHT NOW ARE THE ROUGH AND ROWDY. 
          AND THEN THE NEW ONES THAT ARE OVER, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE ARTS AND THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WILL IT BE COVERING THE PLAY YARD BETWEEN THE OUGHTS AND THE ONES WHERE WE HAVE THE HUGE RUNOFF OF WATER, THE HUGE LITTLE LAKE, EVERY TIME IT RAINS, I WANT TO JOANNE WAS MENTIONING, IS IT GOING TO EVENTUALLY, BUT THESE ARE THE FIRST TWO PROJECTS THAT WOULD GET DONE FIRST. 
          SO THIS ONE'S NOT IN IT ON THE FIRST RUN. 
          IT IT'LL BE WHEN YOU GET THE REMAINDER OF THE FUNDING, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          THEN LET'S MOVE 
          [2c. Briefing on Expiration of Eviction Moratorium by representative of Austin Tenants Council and Austin Public Health.]
ON TO, UH, OUR BRIEFING. 
          SEE, IT'S A BRIEFING ON EXPIRATION OF EVICTION, MORATORIUM BY REPRESENTATIVE OF AUSTIN TENANT'S COUNCIL ON AUSTIN, PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          I THINK THAT'S LAURA LEFT WEDNESDAY. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SURE. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE A COLLEAGUE, I BELIEVE FROM HOUSING AND PLANNING, WHO IS ALSO HERE TO PRESENT, UM, INFORMATION. 
          SO IT, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH, OUR FOCUS REALLY IS ON TRYING TO ENSURE THAT FAMILIES, INDIVIDUALS, UM, REMAIN HOUSED. 
          UM, SO THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, THERE ARE CASE MANAGEMENT AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO FAMILIES. 
          UM, AS OF EARLIER TODAY, WE HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY FAMILIES, UM, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE EVICTION MORATORIUM THAT ARE SEEKING ASSISTANCE. 
          IN ADDITION, UM, TO KIND OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IN-HOUSE WITH AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH. 
          WE ALSO FUND A VARIETY OF NONPROFITS TO ALSO PROVIDE SIMILAR ASSISTANCE TO, FOR INDIVIDUALS TO REMAIN STABLY HOUSED AND THAT THROUGH CAMP CATHOLIC CHARITIES, UM, AND SPEAKING WITH OUR COLLEAGUES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS, THEY IDENTIFY THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER OPTIONS FOR FAMILIES IN THE EVENT THAT THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN THIS SITUATION. 
          UM, AND ONE OF OUR FUNDED AGENCIES IS ALSO THE AUSTIN TENANT'S COUNCIL. 
          SO I'D LIKE MOLLY TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT INFORMATION ABOUT HER RESEARCH AND WHAT SHE'S LEARNED, UM, RELATED TO THE EVICTION MORATORIUM. 
          IT'S LAURA, CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN? I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES. 
          IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? YEAH, JUST GIVE US ONE SECOND IN CITY HALL. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I JUST LOOKED INTO, UM, SOME OF OUR CALLS. 
          WE HAVE A NUMBER OF SERVICES. 
          WE HAVE A FAIR, WE HAVE A FAIR HOUSING PROGRAM AND A TENANT LANDLORD PROGRAM. 
          THE TENANT LANDLORD PROGRAM RECEIVES, UM, BETWEEN FIVE AND 600 CLIENT CALLS A MONTH, UM, UH, CLOSE TO FOUR BETWEEN FOUR AND 500 OF THOSE COME THROUGH OUR TELEPHONE 
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COUNSELING LINE. 
          SO I WANTED TO SEE WHAT KIND OF, UM, VOLUME WE'RE SEEING WITH, UH, EVICTION CONCERNS AND WHETHER ANY OF THOSE FOLKS, UM, WITH EVICTION CONCERNS MENTIONED PETS. 
          UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, WE GATHER WITH EACH OF OUR CALLS, WE GATHER NAME, ADDRESS, UM, THE DATE AND A PROBLEM CODE. 
          AND SO 93 IS OUR PROBLEM CODE FOR POTENTIAL EVICTION RELATED TO, UH, COVID COVID-19 INCOME LOSS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER CODE FOR PETS, WHICH IS 66. 
          AND SO I JUST WENT TO LOOK THROUGH, UM, THAT THE PREVALENCE OF THESE PROBLEM CODES IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. 
          UM, SO JUNE THROUGH AUGUST, UM, AND WE ALSO HAVE NOTES. 
          AND SO I LOOKED THROUGH THE NOTES RELATED TO THOSE PROBLEM CODES OF, UH, 93, UH, POTENTIAL POTENTIAL EVICTION RELATED TO COVID IN 66, UM, PETS. 
          UH, AND SO WHAT I FOUND IS THAT WE GET, AS I MENTIONED, BETWEEN FOUR AND 500 CALLS, UM, JUST ON OUR TELEPHONE COUNSELING LINE AND MINE, UM, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO ARE CALLING, UM, WITH CONCERNS ABOUT THEIR POTENTIAL EVICTION. 
          SO WE HAD, YOU KNOW, UH, CLOSE TO 30 IN JUNE, JULY WAS DOWN AUGUST. 
          UM, IT CAME BACK UP QUITE A BIT. 
          UM, AND WE NOTICED THAT EACH TIME THERE'S KIND OF, UH, WE PASS A STAGE WHERE SOME OF THE PROTECTIONS ARE LOOSENED A LITTLE BIT, UM, THAT WE START, WE SEE AN UPTICK IN THE NUMBER OF CALLERS WHO ARE, UM, ARE, ARE, UH, WONDERING ABOUT EVICTION AND CONCERNED ABOUT EVICTION. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE CALLERS WHO HAVE CALLED WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT POSSIBLE PET SURRENDER, BUT, UM, BUT NONE OF THOSE AND LOOKING UP THE NOTES, UM, OVERLAP WITH FOLKS WHO'VE CALLED ABOUT, UM, ABOUT EVICTION AND, UH, WHAT THIS TELLS ME IS NOT NECESSARILY THAT FOLKS AREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, BUT JUST THAT, UM, THAT THEY'RE NOT MENTIONING THOSE IN THE CONVERSATION, UM, WITH OUR HOUSING COUNSELORS. 
          UM, SO ANYWAY, THIS IS KIND OF A LITTLE CHART OF, UM, OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT EVICTION. 
          AND, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, NO SLICE OF THIS IS A CONCERN THAT INVOLVES BOTH PETS AND EVICTION. 
          UM, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALL CONCERNED THAT THERE MAY BE, UM, VERY LIKELY A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT EVICTION AND ALSO, UM, THE, THE FUTURE OF THEIR PET AND MAY, UH, MAY NEED TO SEEK SHELTER FOR THEIR PET, UM, IF THEY ARE EVICTED. 
          AND SO ONE THING I WAS GOING TO OFFER IS THAT OUR HOUSING COUNSELORS BEGIN ASKING TENANTS AT RISK OF EVICTION ABOUT PETS WHO MIGHT BE IMPACTED AND, UM, IT CAN BE IN TRACKING SO THAT WE CAN GET A SENSE OF WHAT WE MIGHT BE SEEING WHEN THAT EVICTION PROTECTION, THE LOCAL ORDINANCES ARE FULLY LIFTED. 
          UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT, UM, WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO SHARE THE HOUSING COUNSELOR SHARE A NUMBER OF RESOURCES, UM, THAT RELATED TO OUR, OUR PARTNERS. 
          UM, SO EVERYTHING FROM RENT RELIEF TO, UH, TEXAS RIO GRANDE LEGAL AID AND LEGAL REPRESENTATION. 
          SO WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE RESOURCES AND, UM, AND OUR, UM, PLANNING TO TALK WITHOUT AUSTIN PETS ALIVE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT SORTS OF RESOURCES WE MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE TO SHARE WITH FOLKS IF THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BOTH EVICTION AND, UM, IN THEIR PET AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. 
          I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR, UH, THAT INFORMATION AND PULLING THAT DATA FOR US. 
          THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. 
          AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO CONNECT IT TO THE PETS AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO, ANY MATERIALS WE CAN SUPPORT, UH, GIVE YOU, UH, SUPPORT FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO ASK RYAN. 
          I WAS CURIOUS, UM, IN YOUR REPORT THAT THE NUMBERS WERE JUST A LOT LOWER THAN I EXPECTED, EVEN FROM, FROM NEEDING ASSISTANCE. 
          ARE YOU ABLE TO TRACK, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE GENERALLY ARE GETTING EVICTED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UM, AS A COMPARISON TO RELATIVE TO WHAT NUMBER ARE CALLING YOU? UM, WELL, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          I MEAN, THE LOCAL ORDINANCES HAD BEEN FAIRLY GOOD ABOUT PROTECTING PEOPLE WHO ARE BEHIND ON RENT. 
          UM, SO I'M PART OF THE EVICTION SOLIDARITY NETWORK AND WE TRACK THE RATES OF EVICTION. 
          THEY'VE BEEN VERY LOW, UM, IN AUSTIN. 
          UM, AND THAT WE KNOW THAT, UM, THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE IN HOUSTON AND DALLAS. 
          IN FACT, HOUSTON HAS MANY THOUSANDS OF FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN EVICTED BECAUSE OF FAILURE TO PAY RENT OR, UM, OR BEING BEHIND ON RENT. 
          AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID DO IS I REACHED 
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OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES FROM THE EVICTION SOLIDARITY NETWORK IN HOUSTON TO ASK IF THEY HAVE SEEN A PARALLEL KIND OF UPTICK OR SORE OF, UM, OF PETS THAT ARE SURRENDERED, BECAUSE THEY HAVE HAD SO MANY, UM, EVICTIONS AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO GIVE ME FIGURES. 
          SO I HAVE CONTACTED SOMEONE ELSE WHO I GUESS, USED TO WORK FOR THAT PROTECTS HIS HOUSERS AND NOW WORKS FOR THE HUMANE SOCIETY. 
          AND I'M TRYING TO GET, UM, I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT IF PEOPLE, UM, IF COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE HAD A HIGH RATE OF EVICTIONS, UM, HAVE SEEN A LARGE NUMBER OF ANIMALS, UM, SURRENDERED TO, TO SHELTERS. 
          SO AS SOON AS I CAN GET THAT, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE, SHARE IT WITH OTHERS. 
          UM, AND THAT MIGHT ALSO GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT WHAT'S ON THE HORIZON FOR AUSTIN. 
          UH, I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SUPPLIED A LOT OF MONEY TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR APARTMENTS. 
          AND WHAT I HEAR NATIONALLY IS A LOT OF THAT MONEY HASN'T BEEN SPENT. 
          HOW DOES TEXAS, UH, HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO US LOCALLY IN TEXAS IN GENERAL? I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN STILL RELY ON OR THEY MAY HELP US, OR IS THAT JUST LIKE NOT GOING TO BE HELPFUL ANYMORE? WELL, ENOUGH FOR TD MAY WANT TO, UM, SPEAK TO THIS. 
          I MEAN, I DO KNOW THAT THAT, UH, TRAVIS COUNTY HAD A HARD TIME DISTRIBUTING FUNDS. 
          UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS BEEN REALLY, UM, EFFECTIVE IN DISTRIBUTING THEIR RELIEF FUNDS, BUT NEVER TD. 
          YOU MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT. 
          OR FIRST OF ALL, ASK, CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME CLEARLY? AND IF NOT, I'LL TURN OFF. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          UM, SO OVERALL, UM, THERE ARE A FEW STATE WHO HAVE BEEN LISTED AS, UH, BEING INFECTED, GETTING THEIR FUNDS OUT THE DOOR AND THE STATE OF TEXAS OVERALL, WE HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE STATES LISTED, UM, AS LIKE BEING EXAMPLES TO FOLLOW. 
          UH, OF COURSE THAT DOES VARY WITHIN CITIES, COUNTIES, ET CETERA. 
          UM, AS MOLLY SHARED, WE, UH, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, I WORK IN THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT. 
          WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET ALL OF OUR FUNDING OUT ON TIME. 
          UH, I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN, UH, TEXTING WITH MY DIRECTOR, UH, ROSIE, TRUE LOVE TONIGHT, AND SHE WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND, SHE HAD TO ATTEND ANOTHER MEETING, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS SHARING WITH HER IS, UM, WHEREABOUTS BROUGHT OUT OF MONEY. 
          I MEAN, SO THE NEED STILL EXISTS. 
          NUMBER ONE, THAT'S WHAT WE, WE ARE SEEING. 
          AND WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS. 
          UH, HAKA IS OUR VENDOR WHO IS HELPING US TO DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS. 
          AND AUSTIN HAS BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE GETTING OUT THE EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE. 
          SO WE'RE ON ERA TO, UH, WHEREAS SOME AREAS ARE STILL WORKING ON GETTING OUT THERE WE'RE ERA ONE FUNDS AND THE EVENING EVICTION PROTECTIONS HAVE, UH, REALLY HELPED EVICTION RATES IN THE, IN AUSTIN ARE RELATIVELY LOW COMPARED TO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. 
          YES. 
          UH, RYAN HAS A QUESTION FOLLOWING UP ON THAT. 
          ARE, ARE THE LOCAL PROTECTIONS IN DANGER OF EXPIRING OR IN DANGER OF ILLEGAL CHALLENGE? LIKE THE FEDERAL PROTECTIONS RECENTLY WHERE YES, THEY ARE. 
          UM, THEY ARE EXPIRING AND, AND SO WE HAVE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH, UH, TRAVIS COUNTY, UH, AS, AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL LEADERSHIP. 
          AND WE CHANGED OUR PROGRAM ACCORDINGLY. 
          UH, WE INITIALLY STARTED PRIORITIZING HOUSEHOLDS WITH FIVE MONTHS OF MORE OR RENT. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY FIRST DID. 
          UM, WE WERE PRIORITIZING ANYONE WHO OWED MORE THAN FIVE MONTHS OF RENT COULD, COULD HAVE BEEN, SO COULD HAVE BEEN EVICTED, RIGHT? THIS WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. 
          SO THEY'RE TRYING TO ROLL BACK THE PROTECTION SLOWLY, BUT SURELY TO SEE LIKE, WHAT IS THE NEED? SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PRIORITIZE THOSE HOUSEHOLDS. 
          NOW LET'S DOWN, WE'RE PRIORITIZING HOUSEHOLDS WITH THREE MONTHS OF MORE OF RENT, BUT THOSE WILL, THOSE PROTECTIONS WILL GO AWAY. 
          OCTOBER 1ST, THERE ARE MANY SMALL LANDLORDS, UM, THAT ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EVICTION MORATORIUM AND THE PROTECTIONS, UM, SMALL AND LARGER LANDLORDS, BUT IT'S, IT'S MUCH HARDER FOR THE SMALL LANDLORDS WHO RELY ON, UM, RENTAL, THE RENTAL INCOME THAT THEY RECEIVE, 
          [00:40:01]
UH, FOR THEIR EXISTENCE. 
          THAT'S FOR MANY PEOPLE, THAT'S THEIR, THAT'S THEIR SAVINGS. 
          THAT'S HOW THEY PAY FOR THEIR LIVING IN THEIR RETIREMENT AGE. 
          AND SO WE'VE BEEN RESPONDING TO MANY LETTERS, UM, FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY LEADERSHIP HAVE, I MEAN, THERE THERE'S PRESSURE TO EAT IN THE PROTECTIONS AND, AND UNDERSTANDABLY, UNFORTUNATELY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE. 
          UH, THIS COULD AFFECT US. 
          IT'S HARD TO TELL HOW MUCH AND WHEN, BUT IT'S GOOD FOR US TO KEEP OUR EYES ON IT. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR REPORTS. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S GO ON TO, 
          [3a. Comparative Evaluations of Monthly Release Rates.]
UH, OLD BUSINESS. 
          SO COMPARATIVE EVALUATIONS, A MONTHLY RELEASE RATES. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT? I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UM, AS WE CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH DATA AND I APOLOGIZE STUFF THAT I CANNOT SEE YOU TONIGHT. 
          HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE ME. 
          UM, JASON, WILL YOU TELL US WHAT OUR FELINE LIBRARY LEASE RATE WAS FOR AUGUST? ALL RIGHT. 
          SORRY. 
          ONE SECOND. 
          UH, SO FOR NEONATES, WE HAD 93.8% FOR KITTENS. 
          WE WERE AT 96.8%. 
          AND FOR CATS, WE WERE AT 97.3%. 
          UM, WHAT'S THE OVERALL ONE SECOND. 
          SORRY. 
          I NEED TO FIND MY CALCULATOR. 
          I GET ABOUT 93%. 
          IF I USE THE DATA PORTAL. 
          DOES THAT ALIGN WITH MORE OR LESS WHAT YOU'VE GOT? YEAH, LET ME 59 MINUS 11. 
          YOU CAN MAKE YOUR MATH ON THE SPOT. 
          UH, USING THE NUMBERS. 
          I GOT 96.2, SO I DID 6 69 MINUS THE NUMBER OF CATS TOTAL THAT DIED MINUS THE NUMBER OF CATS THAT WERE EUTHANIZED. 
          SO IT'S 6 69 MINUS 11, MINUS 14. 
          AND I GET 96.2. 
          OKAY, COOL. 
          UM, I DO THIS TO YOU EVERY MONTH ASKING FOR THE FEELING LIVE RELEASE RATE, AND YOU'RE ALWAYS VERY GOOD. 
          YOU HAVE IT HANDY. 
          IS THERE A REASON WE CAN'T JUST GET THIS ATTITUDE OR YOUR MONTHLY REPORT, LIKE WE'RE USED TO SEEING, UM, YEAH, I CAN PUT IT ON AS A, INTO THE NARRATIVE PIECE, JUST AS A BREAKDOWN. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          UM, THANKS. 
          ANYTHING ELSE ON MONTHLY RELEASE RATES? OKAY. 
          UH, DO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT ON THE AGENDA? WE CAN DO THAT LATER. 
          WE'LL DO IT AT THE END. 
          WE'LL DO AT THE END. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          WE WANT TO KEEP IT ON FRIDAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO A 
          [3b. Monthly Reporting of Data.]
MONTHLY REPORTING OF DATA. 
          YES, YES. 
          PALMER. 
          UM, I WANTED TO, UM, REVISIT THIS DISCUSSION ON THEIR DATA BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING IT. 
          AND, UM, THAT Y'ALL WERE HAVING SOME TROUBLE WITH YOUR TECHNOLOGY PERSON THROUGH COVID. 
          AND THEN WE HAD WORKED WITH TRYING TO GET SOME ASSISTANCE THROUGH YOUR, UH, CHAMELEON SOFTWARE FOR SOMEONE TO HELP WITH IT. 
          I'VE GONE THROUGH THE ORDINANCE, UH, THE SECTION 3, 1 27 REPORTING BY ANIMAL SHELTER. 
          AND THERE ARE 16 REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR THE, THAT NEED TO BE REPORTED ON. 
          AND WE ARE CURRENTLY RECEIVING THREE, TWO ARE UNDETERMINED AND 11. 
          WE ARE NOT RECEIVING. 
          AND SO I WANTED TO PASS OUT TO EVERYONE. 
          UM, I'VE TAKEN NOTES ON THEM ON WHICH ONES WE'RE RECEIVING IN WHICH ONES WE AREN'T. 
          AND I WANTED TO ASK THAT WE, UM, TRY TO GET THIS RESOLVED ONCE AND FOR ALL, I'M TRYING TO GET THE DATA THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. 
          AND IT'S BEEN, BEEN ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE MONTHS AGO. 
          IT, YES, IT WAS ADDED ORDINANCE IN, UH, IN THE 2019. 
          AND, UH, RIGHT WHEN WE LOST OUR DEDICATED PROGRAMMER, THE APH, UH, WE EAT THE PROGRAMMER THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO US WHEN HE GOT RELEASED FROM THE COVID DUTIES. 
          UH, IT WAS MAKING EXCELLENT 
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PROGRESS. 
          HE HAD DRAFTS OF ALL 16 REPORTS FOR US TO LOOK AT. 
          AND THERE WERE SOME ERRORS. 
          HE WAS WORKING WITH THE CHAMELEON FOLKS AND, UH, TO CORRECT SOME OF THESE. 
          AND WE WERE VERY OPTIMISTIC THAT WE WOULD HAVE THEM VERY SHORTLY AND HE GOT RE PULLED TO GO BACK TO COVID AND WE ONLY GET HIM ONCE A WEEK. 
          IS IT ONCE A WEEK, ONCE A WEEK AT THIS POINT. 
          AND HAVE YOU, UH, HAVE YOU ASKED FOR ASSISTANCE FROM ANY OF THE PEOPLE JASON, THAT YOU AND I WERE SPEAKING WITH REGARDING HELPING PULL THE DATA OUT OF CHAMELEON THAT WAS THERE? HAVE WE GONE THROUGH ANY OTHER CHANNELS TO TRY TO PRODUCE THIS DATA THERE? WE'RE WORKING WITH A CHAMELEON DIRECTLY? YES. 
          CAUSE HE HAD, WHEN HE GOT ON BOARD AND HE HAD TO LEARN CHAMELEON, SO HE'S BEEN PRETTY, UM, GOT TO KNOW THOSE COMEDIAN PROGRAM ARE FREE. 
          WELL, SO EVEN THE, THE REPORTS THAT WERE AUTOMATED FOR, FOR THE WORKING GROUP, LIKE HE GOT HLP TO REALLY HELP WRITE THOSE FOR HIM AS HE WAS LEARNING AND THEN TEACH HIM TO DO IT. 
          SO THAT WAY HE COULD, HE COULD, UH, MAINTAIN THEM AS NEEDED RIGHT NOW. 
          IT'S JUST, WE WERE ABOUT IF I HAD TO PUT A PERCENTAGE ON IT, WE'RE LIKE 90% THERE. 
          WHY ARE WE NOT RECEIVING WHAT'S READY? BECAUSE THERE'S STILL DIFFERENT ITEMS, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT REPORTS OR THE DIFFERENT REPORTS, BECAUSE WE HA WE, IF I CAN TRY TO DESCRIBE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO YOU IS A, IT IS A WEBSITE THAT HAS THE 16 VARIOUS REPORTS ALL LAID OUT AND YOU WERE ABLE TO CLICK ON A USER, IS ABLE TO CLICK ON A REPORT AND THEN IT'LL PULL UP THE INFORMATION. 
          THERE, THERE ARE STILL SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE REPORTS ARE THEY'RE NOT WORKING OR IT'S, FOR SOME REASON, IT'S NOT PULLING THE, THE, THE INFORMATION FOR CERTAIN ITEMS. UH, WE WERE GOING OVER IT LAST, UH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHERE I OFFERED A DONE SOME MORE FEEDBACK, LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, ON THIS REPORT, IT SAYS, WE HAVE A NEONATE PUPPY THAT DIED YET. 
          IT'S NOT SHOWING UP ON THE LIVE APP RELEASE. 
          COULDN'T COULDN'T SOME OF THIS DATABASE SHARED WITH US, LIKE MANUAL, LIKE YOU'RE KIND OF DOING ON THE EXCEL SPREADSHEETS. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE I'M GETTING THAT DATA FOR THE INFORMATION THAT'S WORKING. 
          I'M PULLING IT FROM THAT, INTO THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET AND TRYING TO BUILD THE REPORTS THERE. 
          UM, I THINK NOW WITH MOST OF THE REPORTS, AT LEAST THOSE THAT ARE WORKING, I COULD EXPORT THE DOCUMENTS THE WAY I WAS DOING WITH YOU FOR THE DOGS AND SHELTER, UH, REPORT THAT I WAS SENDING Y'ALL THAT HAD SORT OF THE LENGTH OF STAY THE BREED AND WHATNOT. 
          UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING WITH, WITH THE INDIVIDUAL AND OUR CORPORATE IT DEPARTMENT TOMORROW TO SORT OF LIKE, OKAY, WE NEED SOME HEALTH GUYS. 
          WE NEED TO GET THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I APPRECIATE IT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD THAT NOW FOR MONTHS THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET HELP AND WE WERE GOING TO GET IT. 
          SO I KIND OF FEEL AT THIS POINT, I'M UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE INFORMATION THAT COUNSEL HAS, UM, ASKED THAT WE RECEIVE. 
          I THINK THAT I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PUSH THIS BACK TO COUNCIL TO SEE IF THEY CAN HELP GET WHAT WE NEED. 
          CAN I, SO THE MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED DISCUSSION. 
          YEAH. 
          I WAS TRYING, UH, HOMER. 
          I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS A LOT THE LAST FEW DAYS, AND I'M TRYING TO THINK OF A WAY FORWARD. 
          THAT'S POSITIVE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT IS IN WITH IT'S IT'S OUR DUTY AS THE COMMISSION TO ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL IT'S ON 2, 1, 1 0 2 E ONE, WHICH IS TO ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL ON COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY CODE. 
          UM, AND SO I DO THINK THAT IT'S OUR DUTY TO LIKE FIGURE THIS OUT, BUT I WANT TO FIGURE IT OUT IN A POSITIVE WAY FORWARD. 
          UM, AND I, SO PALMER, YOU CAN TELL ME IF THIS IS A GOOD OR BAD IDEA, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE GOOD IS IF PERHAPS BY NEXT MONTH WE CAN, WE CAN ASK STAFF, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE? AND THEN WE WRITE ONE LETTER TO COUNCIL THAT SAYS, THIS IS NOT BEING COMPLIED WITH. 
          IT WAS, UH, PASSED IN OCTOBER OF 2019 THAT THIS HAD TO BE A REQUIREMENT. 
          THEY WERE GIVEN 180 DAYS. 
          SO THAT WAS UNTIL APRIL 27TH, 2020. 
          OBVIOUSLY IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE APRIL 27TH, 2020, THAT WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATUTE. 
          UM, TRANSPARENCY IS ONE OF THE CITY. 
          COUNCIL'S BIG THINGS. 
          IT'S ONE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S BIG THINGS. 
          IT'S ONE OF THE AUDIT. 
          DEPARTMENT'S BIG THINGS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO DO THIS IN A WAY THAT'S POSITIVE THAT ACTUALLY GETS COMPLIANCE RATHER THAN IN A WAY THAT'S VINDICTIVE AND, YOU KNOW, RETRIBUTIVE AND TRYING TO HARM SOMEBODY. 
          SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GIVE STAFF A MONTH TO EITHER HAVE IT DONE OR TELL US EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED US TO ASK FOR COUNSEL SO THAT IT GETS DONE. 
          AND IF THAT IS, YOU NEED THAT EMPLOYEE 10 DAYS A MONTH INSTEAD OF FOUR OR 15 DAYS A MONTH. 
          AND SO FOR WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU NEED TO GET IN COMPLIANCE. 
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AND WE WRAP THAT UP IN ONE LETTER TO COUNCIL, AND WE SAY, THIS IS WHAT STAFF IS TELLING US. 
          AND WE ASK THAT YOU DO THAT. 
          I, THAT I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. 
          I HAVEN'T TOLD YOU ABOUT THAT BEFOREHAND, BUT I THINK THAT'S A WAY TO GET THIS COMPLIANCE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE. 
          RIGHT? WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT DONE SO THAT WE CAN ALL HAVE THE DATA THAT WE ALL WANTED. 
          AND THE CITY COUNCIL PASSED. 
          WE ARE HEARING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AS YOU SAID, EVERY MONTH, WE WERE WE'RE ON THE WAY THERE, BUT WE'RE NOW A YEAR AND A HALF PAST THE DUE DATE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO CAN WE ROLL TOGETHER THAT PACKAGE? CAN WE GIVE STAFF THE TIME THEY NEEDED TO COME UP WITH WHAT IT IS THEY NEED TO GET IT DONE. 
          AND THEN WE ASK FOR THAT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO THROW OUT THERE AS MY IDEA, BRIAN AND I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT. 
          MY CONCERN IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT CHAMELEON AT PET HEALTH, THE OWNER OF CHAMELEON HAS EXPRESSED THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO RUN THESE REPORTS, GET HELP, DO THIS FOR FREE AND NO COST TO THE CITY. 
          UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY OPEN TICKETS OR, OR HELP REQUESTS REGARDING DATA REPORTING ONGOING. 
          UM, AND MAYBE I'M WRONG, JAY JASON, DO YOU KNOW, ARE WE WORKING? WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE SOFTWARE COMPANY THAT WE'VE REACHED OUT TO SINCE THEY HAVE OFFERED TO DO THIS FOR FREE FOR US. 
          YES. 
          AS FAR AS I KNOW, I MEAN, WE, WE ARE OUR STAFF PERSON ASSIGNED TO US, WORKS WITH THREE INDIVIDUALS ON, ON THIS, INCLUDING JASON, JASON CHAMELEON. 
          UM, ON, ON, ON TRYING TO GET SORT OF THESE, THESE THINGS IMPLEMENTED, THEY'VE ALSO BEEN HELPING US OUT SORT OF CONVERTED. 
          I THINK I'VE MENTIONED, I KNOW I'VE MENTIONED IT TO PALMER, UH, TAKING THE DATA FROM CHAMELEON AND PUTTING IT INTO A SYSTEM CALLED POWER BI, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT EVEN CHAMELEON UTILIZES AS WELL IN THE CITY AS A WHOLE, IS TRYING TO UTILIZE AT LEAST FOR, FOR DATA GATHERING AND DATA SHARING. 
          SO THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY WORKING TO TRY TO CONVERT THAT DATA FROM CHAMELEON INTO THIS POWER BI DATA. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE, THAT HELP HAS ALSO BEEN SORT OF BEEN REQUESTED IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT THINGS AREN'T MISSED. 
          THINGS ARE BEING PULLED CORRECTLY. 
          SO WHEN THEY'VE SHARED IT WITH US AND WE WERE LIKE, WELL, IT'S NOT PULLING THIS DATA. 
          I MEAN, IN THIS REPORT, IT SAYS LIKE THIS ANIMAL DIED AND YET WE'RE NOT SHOWING IT AS DIED OVER HERE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND FIX IT. 
          UM, THAT'S SORT OF BEEN WHERE WE WE'VE BEEN AT. 
          THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, WITH TOMORROW'S MEETING, WE'RE HOPING TO GET A SOLID UPDATE ON WHAT ADDITIONAL PROGRESS NEEDS TO BE MAKING THEN WHAT DO Y'ALL? I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE IN DISAGREEMENT WITH THAT. 
          I MEAN, WE COULD FIND OUT A WAY TO TRY TO PUSH THIS THROUGH. 
          I KNOW I WOULD CAUSE THEN THAT'S ONE LAST REPORT I HAVE TO WRITE FOR Y'ALL. 
          SO I MEAN, IT, HOPEFULLY IT'S THERE AND ALSO TRYING TO GET IT TO WHERE IT'S A PUBLIC FACING, UH, FORUMS WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST GO ONLINE AND, AND, AND PULL OUT THE DATA THAT THEY NEED THE WAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE USER-FRIENDLY THAN JUST GOING THROUGH THE OPEN DATA PORTAL AND TRY AND PULL THAT DATA. 
          SO, SO I THINK THAT PART OF THE PROBLEM IS YOU'RE TRYING TO SWITCH, UM, YOUR SYSTEM AND PROVIDE US THE REPORTS AT THE SAME TIME. 
          I REALLY LIKE WITH TRYING TO GET THE REPORTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR, AND YOU'VE BEEN GREAT ON TRYING TO HELP US. 
          I KNOW THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH TWO DIFFERENT DATA SYSTEMS OR, OR DURING THIS CONVERSION, BUT I, I, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT AT LEAST I WAS TOLD THROUGH PET HEALTH THAT WE CAN GET THESE REPORTS THROUGH CHAMELEON, AND I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT NOW. 
          AND THEN ONCE YOU GET ALL THE KINKS WORKED OUT IN YOUR NEW SYSTEM, THEN YOU COULD START RUNNING THE REPORTS ON YOUR NEW SYSTEM. 
          BUT CONSIDERING THE NEW SYSTEM HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR NINE MONTHS, 10 MONTHS, AND YOU STILL DON'T HAVE THE KINKS WORKED OUT. 
          I'M NOT REALLY COMFORTABLE WAITING UNTIL THE KINKS ARE WORKED OUT TO START GETTING THE DATA THAT WE'RE MISSING ON THAT NEW SYSTEM. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT UNTIL IT'S FIXED ON THE NEW SYSTEM, WE RECEIVED THE DATA FROM THE OLD SYSTEM IN WHATEVER FORMAT WE HAVE TO PIECE IT TOGETHER. 
          ONE OF THE ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS IS WITH CHAMELEON AND SOME OF THE REPORTS THAT WE REQUESTING THE DATA IS NOT THERE IN A WAY THAT CHAMELEON CAN PULL IT. 
          AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WITH CHAMELEON, WHAT CAN BE DONE TO EXTRACT THAT DATA IN A WAY TO GENERATE THOSE REPORTS. 
          SO COULD YOU THEN GIVE US A SPECIFICS ON EACH REPORT THAT HAS BEEN, YOU'VE TALKED TO CHAMELEON ON AND WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE AND WHAT MAYBE A WORKAROUND MIGHT BE IN THE MEANTIME, CAN WE GET SOME FEEDBACK REGARDING WE CAN ASK, UH, THE APH, UH, GENTLEMEN TO PROVIDE THAT FOR US, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          CAUSE YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE JUST KEEP TALKING ABOUT THAT. 
          WE'RE NOT GETTING IT AND IT WOULD HELP TO UNDERSTAND. 
          UM, AND THAT WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD JUST ASK FOR IT FROM THE EXISTING SYSTEM INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL THE NEW SYSTEM IS COMPLETELY TRANSFERRED. 
          OTHERWISE I'M FINE. 
          IF WITH WHAT YOUR SUGGESTION IS, RYAN, THERE'S A, THERE'S A WHOLE COMMISSION HERE. 
          WHAT, UH, WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD? I MEAN, IT IS OUR DUTY UNDER THE 
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BYLAWS TO NOTIFY COUNCIL THAT THIS ISN'T HAPPENING. 
          HOW DO WE GET THERE? THAT'S MY JOANNE, I THINK. 
          JOANNE, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YEAH. 
          UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE RYAN'S THOUGHT THROUGH THIS. 
          AND UM, I THINK THAT, UM, KNOWING WHAT WE NEED AND THERE'S A MEETING TOMORROW, UM, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE FAIR TO, UM, GIVE IT A MONTH AND THEN JUST BE READY TO GO, UM, WITH SOMETHING IF WE CAN'T, UM, GET THE DATA OUT, BUT HOPEFULLY, UM, IT'LL GIVE US A GOOD SHOT TO GET IT WITHIN THIS NEXT MONTH AND BE IN COMPLIANCE. 
          SO THANK YOU, RYAN, FOR THINKING THROUGH THAT, WHICH MEANS THAT WE HAD EMOTION, BUT NO SECOND AND WE HAVE, THERE WAS A SECOND, SO, SO, UH, WELL THEN WE HAVE, SO WE'RE STILL IN DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE A SUBSTITUTE. 
          THIS WOULD BE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION. 
          I'M NOT SUBSTITUTING ANYTHING. 
          I WAS THROWING IT OUT INTO DISCUSSION TO SEE WHERE PEOPLE FELT, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT NOW THAT TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE COUNCIL TODAY, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH IT? UM, I, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE PRODUCTIVE. 
          THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO DO. 
          AND I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE GET THE REPORTS. 
          AND SO I LIKE PALMER. 
          WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IN THE INTERIM, CAN WE JUST GET WHATEVER THERE IS? THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST. 
          AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO WORK WITH AGAIN. 
          UM, SINCE WHEN YOU AND I LAST SPOKE, UM, THEY HAD SAID THEY WOULD HELP PROVIDE WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE NEED. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO WORK ON WHAT MIGHT WORK IN THE MEANTIME. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE START GETTING THIS STUFF FROM CHAMELEON INSTEAD OF WAITING WELL, OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND ABOUT SAYING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL, BUT ARE WE NOT GOING TO DO THAT NOW? DO WE, I MEAN, I PERSONALLY, I LIKED THE IDEA OF, OF, OF WORKING WITH, WITH THE PROBLEMS YOU'RE HAVING, BUT WE WANT TO GET IT SOLVED QUICKLY, WHICH MEANS YOU CAN USE US TO HELP YOU GET IT SOLVED. 
          WE WILL, WE CAN TELL COUNCIL THIS NEEDS TO BE SOLVED AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE RESOURCES. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, UM, I'M NOT, I DON'T WANT TO GO WITH, I DON'T WANT TO TELL THE COUNCIL. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE, I WANT TO TELL THE COUNCIL EXACTLY WHAT IT IS IS IT'S GOING TO SOLVE IT WITHIN A 30 OR 60 DAY PERIOD. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK. 
          I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE SAME PLACE WE ARE NOW NEXT MONTH TO KNOW THAT WE'VE EXHAUSTED THE RESOURCE, THAT THE CONNECTION THAT IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO CHAMELEON AND THAT THESE ARE PART OF AN ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEET AND THAT WE'VE REQUESTED THEIR ASSISTANCE ON TRYING TO GET THE REPORTS FROM THE OLD SYSTEM. 
          NOW I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT WE LIKE EXHAUSTED THAT OPTION BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS THERE THAT MIGHT PROVIDE SOME HELP AT NO COST. 
          AND SINCE THEY'RE YOUR VENDOR, IT WOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM FOR THEM TO, TO, TO GET INVOLVED IN THE SYSTEM TO TRY TO HELP CREATE THE REPORTS. 
          I'LL SHARE THIS FEEDBACK WITH OUR IT FOLKS AND THEN SEE, LIKE, WHAT'S THE EARLIEST WITH GETTING I, YOU KNOW, HLP AND YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT SORT OF PROGRESS WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP CAN BE MADE TO TRY TO PUSH EITHER THE REST OF THIS DATA OUT OR IN THE INTERIM, TRY TO GET THESE REPORTS BUILT IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO IT FOR FREE. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          SO I G I GUESS WHERE THAT LEAVES US IS, UM, AS A COMMISSION, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO, FOR YOU TO REQUEST WHEN YOU'RE DOING IT IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE COMMISSION, IT'S NOT BEHIND ANYBODY'S BACK, THAT THAT WE GET WHATEVER IS POSSIBLE TO GET NOW FROM THE CHAMELEON REPORTS. 
          MY REQUEST WOULD BE, I GUESS, THAT WE CONSIDER POSTPONING THIS UNTIL NEXT MONTH. 
          BUT WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE HAVE A CONCRETE PLAN IN PLACE FROM STAFF NEXT MONTH, THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED, OR ELSE WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO SEND A LETTER THAT SAYS WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. 
          I'D MUCH RATHER SAY, SEND A LETTER THAT SAYS WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. 
          HERE ARE THE REASONS WHY, AND HERE'S THE SOLUTION THAT WE CAN GET. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT THE, THE, THE NO COST RESOURCES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THAT THAT HAS BEEN EXHAUSTED BEFORE WE HAVE AN ASKED TO COUNSEL, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE HAD AN OFFER OF SOME HELP THAT MIGHT DO IT. 
          AND THERE'S SOME REPORTS IN HERE THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE MANUALLY PUT TOGETHER IF THEY HAVE TO, LIKE ON THE ANIMALS THAT ARE DECEASED OR EUTHANIZED AND WHAT WAS THE POSSIBLE CAUSE THAT SHOULDN'T, I MEAN, THIS INFORMATION, NOT ALL OF IT NEEDS TO BE RUN IN A REPORT. 
          I THINK SOME OF IT IS, CAN BE COMPILED FAIRLY QUICK HARTMAN. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT, WHAT HEADWAY WE CAN MAKE BY NEXT 
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MONTH WOULD BE, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          SO ARE WE, I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL LIKE WE CAN DO? LIKE WE CAN DEFINITELY MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON SOME OF THESE AGAIN, I THINK IN THE TIME THAT WE HAD EACH INDIVIDUAL BEFORE HE GOT PULLED IN MAY WE DID A LOT OF WORK. 
          I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN PRETTY, SORRY. 
          I DIDN'T REALIZE IT. 
          WASN'T HIM. 
          UM, HE'S GOTTEN PRETTY, UM, ADAPT TO CHAMELEON AND WORKING WITH IT. 
          AND I, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FOR WHAT HE'S REPORTED TO ALL OF US, HE HAS A PRETTY GOOD SOUND RELATIONSHIP WITH, WITH THE, THE TEXAS HLP. 
          SO I THINK ONCE WE SHARE THIS FEEDBACK WITH HIM AND WITH THE SUPPORT OF OUR, OUR CORPORATE IT DEPARTMENT, WE CAN HOPEFULLY PUSH THESE THESE ALONG BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT WITH YOU. 
          IT'S LIKE WE GET THESE DONE BECAUSE IT'S A DING ON THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL THAT WE'RE BEING OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THIS COUNCIL MANDATE DECENT REALLY QUICK. 
          ONE LAST THING. 
          UM, I WORK WITH THE ENGINEERS AT PENN HEALTH CHAMELEON EVERY DAY. 
          UM, EVEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW THEIR NAMES RIGHT NOW, WILL YOU JUST EMAIL ME, LET ME KNOW WHO YOU'RE WORKING WITH. 
          UM, CAUSE I WORK WITH THEM EVERY DAY. 
          IF I CAN HELP FACILITATE THIS IN ANY WAY I WOULD LIKE TO HELP. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL GET THAT FROM THE PERSON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, BECAUSE WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. 
          CAN WE VOTE TO TABLE IT, I GUESS BEFORE I MOVE TO TABLE, IS THERE, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO OTHER FEEDBACK ON WHAT PEOPLE WOULD PREFER TO DO. 
          YEAH, I HAVE A, SO I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS. 
          SO THERE ARE 16 OF THEM HERE. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE PRIOR TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, THEY WILL AT LEAST GET AN ANSWER. 
          IS, ARE THESE REPORTS LIKE, LET ME SEE HERE. 
          THE NUMBER SIX NUMBER OF ANIMALS PLACED INTO SHELTERS, FOSTER PROGRAM, NUMBER OF MAMMALS WITHIN THE SHELTERS FOSTER PROGRAM ON THE DATE OF REPORTING, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO GET AN F YES, WE WILL HAVE THIS INFORMATION. 
          NO WE CAN'T. 
          IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET ON ALL THE ONES THAT REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT BEING MET? IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. 
          POSSIBLE TO GET A REASON WHY? SO AN UPDATE BEFORE THE NEXT COMMISSION THAT JUST AREN'T ON WHAT'S WHAT IS IT? IS IT BECAUSE THE DATA DOESN'T AGREE, DATA DOESN'T EXIST IN CHAMELEON OR IT'S IN THE NEW PROGRAM AND THERE'S A GLITCH OR IT'S HAVING TO BE MANUALLY PUT TOGETHER. 
          WE CAN ASK THE PROGRAMMER TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO US. 
          YES. 
          HERE HERE'S A POTENTIAL SOLUTION. 
          WE COULD, UM, VOTE, HAVE A WORKING GROUP AND ASK STAFF TO BE A PART OF IT SO THAT WE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS IN THE INTERIM AND HOPEFULLY COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTION FOR NEXT MEETING. 
          WELL, OKAY. 
          BUT WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. 
          WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? I'M STILL HESITANT TO WITHDRAW THIS. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WE'VE BEEN, IT'S REALLY BEEN A PROBLEM. 
          EVEN WITH THE WORKING GROUPS. 
          I'M TRYING TO WORK WITH SPACE. 
          THE DATA IS A PROBLEM AND I, WELL, OKAY. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THAT THERE ARE MANY THINGS ON HERE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE MOTION IS TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING THE DATA. 
          AND SO WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE AND IT MAKES IT REALLY HARD TO DO WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO WITH OVERSIGHT. 
          SO BASICALLY THE MOTION IS, UH, WE'RE NOT THAT WE'RE NOT THE DATA IS NOT THAT WE'RE GETTING, IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE AND WE'D LIKE TO GET THE DATA, ESSENTIALLY. 
          THAT'S THE MOTION ESSENTIALLY. 
          THAT'S THE MOTION, BUT I WAS STILL KIND OF PUZZLING THROUGH, I GUESS, I ON WHERE I AM WITH THE MOTION, CRAIG. 
          SORRY. 
          WELL, THE THING IS IF, IF WE VOTE ON IT AND IT GOES DOWN, THEN WE CAN START AGAIN WITH A DIFFERENT MOTION. 
          SO BECAUSE OF THE MOTION IS SECONDED, WE GOT TO VOTE ON IT OR SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED. 
          SO LET'S VOTE ON THAT. 
          HOW MANY, UH, FAVOR THE MOTION, THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT PALMER, SORRY. 
          PALMER WAS SAYING THAT SHE WAS STILL THINKING THROUGH WHAT SHE WANTED TO DO. 
          YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY. 
          SORRY. 
          I, WELL, I, IF, IF IT'S OKAY, IF CAN WE CONTINUE DISCUSSION FOR JUST A MOMENT? OKAY. 
          UM, JASON, CAN WE WALK THROUGH THESE REAL QUICKLY AND, AND KIND OF POINT TO THE ONES THAT I THINK WE COULD HAVE RECEIVED INFORMATION ON TODAY THAT I MAYBE COULD FEEL PRETTY CERTAIN WE'D GET IT NEXT MONTH. 
          DO YOU MIND? NO, GO AHEAD. 
          UM, SO ON THE, AND I, I JUST THINKING ABOUT THE FIELDS, UM, THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH, UM, IN HERE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, THE MEETING, THE FOSTER, UM, REPORTING, YOU JUST, WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF HOW MANY ARE GOING TO FOSTER AND YOU PROVIDED THAT TO 
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ME AS WE'VE BEEN IN THE WORKING GROUP. 
          SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PROVIDED, EVEN IF IT'S NOT ON A PERFECT REPORT. 
          AND SO CAN WE JUST WALK THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE AND JUST SEE IF YOU GO NO WAY WE CAN'T PULL THAT TOGETHER, OR YES, I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PULL THIS TOGETHER AND THAT IT WOULD GIVE ME AN IDEA OF WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT MONTH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THE NUMBER TWO, UM, NUMBER OF ANIMALS, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS EUTHANIZED AND FOR EACH A DESCRIPTION OF THE ANIMAL, INCLUDING AGE, SPECIES, AND SIZE, AND THE REASON FOR EUTHANASIA, THE NUMBER EUTHANIZED IS BEING PROVIDED. 
          BUT THE DESCRIPTION OF THE ANIMAL, INCLUDING AGE, SPECIES, SIZE AND REASON ARE NOT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD EXPECT TO GET, UM, ON THAT? THE SIZE IS THE PROBLEM YOU DON'T HAVE. 
          THERE WAS NO, COULD WE GET EVERYTHING BUT THE SIZE BY NEXT MONTH? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE WORKED ON. 
          AND IS THAT A YES OR NO? WE CAN'T SEE WHAT KIT WE CAN'T. 
          THAT WAS, THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A YES, WITHOUT THE SIZE BY NEXT MONTH, THE SIZE IS WHAT'S HOLDING THEM UP THEN ONLINE ON NUMBER THREE. 
          UH, WE'RE NOT RECEIVING ANY OF THE LIVE RELEASE INFORMATION ON WILDLIFE OR OTHER. 
          AND THE WAY THIS ORDINANCE READS IS IT SAYS THE CATEGORIES OF DOGS, CATS, OTHER PETS, AND WILDLIFE. 
          SO WE'RE NOT RECEIVING ANY INFORMATION, THE BREAKDOWN REGARDING THOSE FOR THE LIVE RELEASE RATE. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING MORE THAT YOU NEED TO RUN A CALCULATION ON. 
          SO I'M OKAY IF WE LEAVE THAT ON A QUESTION MARK, AS YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE PROGRAMMERS. 
          OKAY. 
          OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE THE DATA FOR JASON? UM, I, I THINK WE COULD PULL IT OUT AGAIN. 
          I'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH, WITH I'LL PUT A MAYBE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND THEN, UM, ON NUMBER SIX, UH, WE DOESN'T INCLUDE THE INFORMATION ON THE NUMBER PLACED IN FOSTER ISN'T THAT INFORMATION THAT Y'ALL HAVE BECAUSE YOU'VE GIVEN IT TO US FOR THE WORKING GROUP? UM, YES, I DON'T. 
          I, THE ONLY THING, I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE DONE FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH, LIKE IT'S A, THE REPORT ITSELF, I THINK, IS LIKE A DAILY SORT OF REPORT, BUT I'LL HAVE TO SEE THE ONE THAT I RECEIVED A COPY OF THAT YOU SENT ME FOR PART OF THE WORKING GROUP. 
          IT WAS RUN FOR A TIME PERIOD. 
          AND SO IF Y'ALL COULD RUN THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          CAN I INTERRUPT YOU FOR TWO SECONDS? JASON, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHY SIZE IS AN ISSUE GETTING THAT DATA? WHY IS THAT? WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE BARRIER THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO RUN A REPORT TO EQUATE SIZE TO WEIGHT AND IN CHAMELEON, WHOEVER THAT WAS IN CHAMELEON, YOU HAVE TO WRITE A REPORT TO EQUATE SIZE TO WEIGHT. 
          AND SO IT'S HARD. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THAT. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE THERE, AND I'M NOT SURE IF SIZE MEANS, IS IT A LARGE DOG? I DON'T KNOW WHAT SIZE MEANS IN THAT, IN THE, WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, YOU KNOW, WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT LARGE, LARGE, MEDIUM, AND LARGE DOGS ARE A SPACE ISSUE. 
          SO I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THAT CRITICALLY AND THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT DATA SET THAT NEEDS WELL, AND THE, THE, YOU KNOW, LAST MONTH IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS 14 DIED IN 18 EUTHANIZED. 
          I MEAN, CAN SOMEONE LIKE HANDWRITE THAT OUT? LIKE JUST WAIT OR SOMETHING QUICKLY? I MEAN, YEAH, JUST GOING THROUGH OF THOSE, I MEAN, JUST TO GET COMPLIANT UNTIL WE CAN RUN THESE REPORTS. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, AND I, AGAIN, I, I NEED, UH, IF HE, CAUSE I'M NOT SURE, I, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THAT PARTICULAR REPORT, I THINK IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT IS OKAY. 
          AT LEAST IN THE, IN THE NEW SYSTEM, THAT HE'S FINE. 
          BUT I THINK WITH THAT, WE COULD PROBABLY PULL IT WITH THAT THEN WITHOUT WITH THAT SYSTEM, WE COULD PULL OUT THAT INFORMATION. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OR IT COULD BE MANUALLY. 
          SO THEN, UM, YOU'RE GONNA LOOK AT THE FOSTER REPORT SINCE I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT'S BEEN SENT TO ME THAT YOU CAN RUN IT FOR A TIME PERIOD. 
          WE CAN, WE CAN CURRENTLY RUN A COMMITTEE AND REPORT ON THAT, BUT, UH, THEY FOUND THAT IT'S PRODUCING SOME ERRORS IT'S ONLY MINOR OR JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE TO THREE. 
          UH, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY, BUT THAT'S ON CHAMELEON THAT THEY HAVE. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S A CHAMELEON REPORT AND WE CAN UNDERSTANDABLE THAT Y'ALL ARE STILL WORKING ON ALL OF THIS, BUT IF YOU COULD START PROVIDING WHAT YOU HAVE, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          WE CAN SHOW IT TO YOU AND PRODUCE IT, SEND IT TO YOU, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT IT COULD BE ONE TO THREE HOURS OR IF YOU YEAH. 
          OR EVEN LET US KNOW ON LIKE WHAT, HOW THE ERRORS WERE BEING CAUGHT, LIKE WHAT MIGHT CAUSE THE ERROR AND THEN, UM, ON NUMBER SEVEN, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT ARE NOT VACCINATED, UM, IS THAT SOMETHING DR. 
          LUNN THAT'S BEING CAPTURED? 
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UH, IT HA IT'S GOING TO TAKE A CHAMELEON REPORT THAT WE DON'T HAVE WRITTEN, CAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO PULL OFF OF DAY OF INTAKE AND THE VACCINE. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT REPORT WRITTEN. 
          IS THERE LIKE AN INVENTORY REPORT THAT COULD BE RUN THAT SHOWS HOW MANY ANIMALS WERE IN THE SHELTER, NOT VACCINATED WITH INTAKE VACCINES, THEN MAYBE WE COULD DO A WORK AROUND OR SOMETHING. 
          NO, BECAUSE IT HAS TO READ FROM WHERE WE ENTER THE VACCINES. 
          SO THERE'S NO VACCINE REPORT THAT CAN BE RUN. 
          WE, WE DO HAVE A VACCINE REPORT, BUT, UM, AS FAR AS, UH, SO I, I MEAN, IT'S NOT A REPORT. 
          WE JUST RUN WHAT NEEDS TO NEEDS A BOOSTER AND EVERYTHING. 
          SO YEAH. 
          I MEAN, EVERYTHING GETS INTAKE VACCINES, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT. 
          SO THAT'S PROBABLY VERY HIGH, BUT AN ACTUAL CHAMELEON REPORT DOES NOT EXIST THAT PULLS OFF OF. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S NOT A REPORT THAT MATCHES THIS YET. 
          I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE MAY BE, THERE WAS A REPORT THAT'S  LIKE CAN RUN A REPORT OF ANIMALS THAT DIDN'T GET INTAKE VACCINES, AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD SORT IT BY AGE AND SEE WHAT MADE SENSE. 
          SO MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A WORKAROUND, UM, THEN ON THERE'S, UH, NUMBER NINE, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS SPAYED OR NEUTERED AT THE SHELTER AND THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS SPAYED OR NEUTERED OUTSIDE THE SHELTER. 
          AND JASON, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT STILL, WE HAD REQUESTED INFORMATION ON FOR OUR WORKING GROUP AND NEVER RECEIVED IT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THIS IS, AGAIN, AS I GET DATA OR, OR INVOICES, WE GET DATA OR INVOICES FROM EMANCIPET OR AHS, UM, BUT CAN EMANCIPATE CAN'T EMANCIPATE THE CAN'T, THEY RUN IT FOR US. 
          I MEAN, OR WE TALKED ABOUT CHAMELEON SHOULD BE CAPTURING WHO THE PROVIDER WAS. 
          I MEAN, IT SEEMS THE STATE CHAMELEON THOUGH. 
          CAN YOU GET EMANCIPET TO RUN THE REPORT? UH, WELL WE CAN ASK THEM, BUT, UM, IN ORDER TO RUN THOSE REPORTS TO SEE WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY, WHAT THEY HAVE IN PROCESS BY INVOICE, BECAUSE THEY, THEY BREAK IT DOWN BY, THEY ESSENTIALLY ALL THE SERVICES THAT THEY'RE OFFERED OR PROVIDING TO INDIVIDUALS, THEY, THEY SEND US A COMPREHENSIVE INVOICE. 
          SO IT'S NOT JUST AN INCLUDE SPAY-NEUTER, BUT IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE MICROCHIPS VACCINATIONS, CAN A NEW FIELD BE ADDED TO CHAMELEON TO STOP THE PROBLEM GOING FORWARD THAT THEN SHOWS WHICH PROVIDER PROVIDED IT, WHETHER IT WAS IN HOUSE OR OUT. 
          UM, YEAH, WE DON'T ENTER IN CHAMELEON THOUGH. 
          WE CAPTURE IT ON A SEPARATE SPREADSHEET. 
          IT'S ON A SPREADSHEET. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE UPDATE IT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MUCH THAT'S HOW WE TRACK WHAT THE FUNDS WERE SPENDING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT ONE, OKAY. 
          ON, ON THAT ONE, YOU HAD MENTIONED WHEN I ASKED EARLIER THAT THEY ROLL IN THERE JUST BEHIND. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, IS IT POSSIBLE TO JUST HAVE AN ASTERIX EVERY MONTH AND SAY THIS IS A MONTH BEHIND? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK WHEN WE LIVE WITH ALBERT GOING THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE ORDINANCE RECOMMENDATION ACCOUNTS, I'VE MENTIONED THAT, THAT THIS PARTICULAR RECOMMENDATION WAS GOING TO BE KIND OF DIFFICULT. 
          IT MAY BE A MONTH OR TWO BEHIND, AND THAT'S WHEN, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WERE GOING DOWN ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, WELL I CAN CHECK WITH THEM TO SEE LIKE, HEY, THINGS THAT YOU HAVEN'T, IF THEY'VE BEEN CAPTURED, BUT HAVEN'T BEEN PROCESSED TO FOR INVOICE. 
          LIKE, CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT AT LEAST THAT YEAH. 
          SOMETHING, EVEN WITH A DISCLAIMER THAT YOU'RE NOT SURE THIS IS COMPLETE OR THAT IT'S FOR BACK DATES, BUT SOMETHING, AND WE CAN AT LEAST PROVIDE YOU WITH THE LAST INVOICE THAT, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER YOU DO HAVE, IT MIGHT HAVE AN ASTROPHYSICS AS THIS IS TWO MONTHS AGO OR ONE MONTH AGO. 
          THE OTHER THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT IS IN THE FUTURE, WE COULD, WHENEVER IT BECOMES TIME TO RE UP THE CONTRACT WITH THEM, WE COULD HAVE A NEW CONTRACT RENEWAL PROVISION THAT SAYS THAT THEY NEED TO REPORT BY THE END OF MONTH OR BY THE, BY THE FIFTH OF THE NEXT MONTH, HOW MANY SPARE NEUTERS THEY'VE DONE IN THE PREVIOUS MONTH. 
          AND THAT WAY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ENTER IT IN, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S DOWN THE LINE, BUT THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I'M TALKING ABOUT. 
          LIKE WHAT DO WE NEED TO START GETTING THE DATA THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR? AND IF IT'S, WE NEED TO SLIGHTLY ALTER THE CONTRACT, LET'S START THINKING ABOUT THAT A YEAR AGO RATHER THAN NOW, BUT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE. 
          SO LET'S THE NEXT TIME THAT CONTRACT COMES UP. 
          LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A REPORTING REQUIREMENTS SO THAT WE CAN MEET THE ORDINANCE. 
          THEN THE NUMBER 10, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS THAT DIED IN THE SHELTER WITHIN THE SHELTERS FOSTER PROGRAM AND THE SUSPECTED CAUSE OF DEATH, THERE WERE 14 LAST MONTH. 
          I MEAN, THAT COULD BE HANDWRITTEN IS BETTER THAN NOTHING. 
          WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING REGARDING THAT. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE BECAUSE OF THE SMALLER NUMBER, WHICH WE HOPE IT STAYS SMALL TO BE ABLE TO, TO KIND OF MANUALLY DO THAT REPORT. 
          UM, THEN ON NUMBER 11, THE ANIMALS BEING TRANSFERRED TO RESCUE GROUPS IS I CAN'T TELL WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS BEING MET BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT IT ONLY IS GOING TO NAME THE RESCUE GROUP, UH, 
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OF THOSE THAT DID NOT OPT OUT OF BEING DISCLOSED. 
          AND THERE'S NO INDICATION ON OF ANYTHING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A GROUP OF, OF, OF RESCUE GROUPS THAT HAVE OPTED OUT AND THEIR CONTRACT. 
          AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE CAPTURED, OR THAT SHOULD BE, SEEMS TO ME. 
          THEY EITHER OPTED IN OR THEY OPTED OUT AND THAT SHOULD BE CAPTURED ON THOSE NUMBERS. 
          UM, THE NUMBER OF SPACE PERFORMED ON ANIMALS THAT ARE VISIBLY PREGNANT. 
          THAT IS ZERO. 
          I MEAN, WE CAN GIVE YOU THAT, BUT OKAY. 
          THEN IF WE CAN GET THE REPORTING ON THAT EACH MONTH, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          UM, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS LOST, STOLEN OR MISSING, UH, THERE'S ONE CATEGORY THAT'S MISSING. 
          AND, UM, IF WE SUSPECT THAT THEY'RE STOLEN OR SOMETHING ELSE, UM, COULD WE JUST GET THE SPECIFICS? OKAY. 
          BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, YEAH, WE, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING YOU CAN RUN THROUGH CHAMELEON. 
          I THINK YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO PULL THE RECORDS AND LET US KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ON THE PHONE. 
          WELL, RIGHT NOW, IF, IF IT'S OUTCOME IS MISSING, IT'LL BE ABLE TO BE PULLED. 
          SO USUALLY WHERE I'M PULLING THAT DATA, BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE GOOD REPORTS ON POWER BI. 
          UM, BUT THEN YOU JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THE RECORDS TO FIND OUT WHAT THE SPECIFIC YEAH. 
          AND IT'S NOT MANY, SO HOPEFULLY WE COULD AT LEAST GET A MANUAL REPORT ON THAT. 
          AND THEN THE NUMBER OF CATS ARE RELEASED. 
          YEAH. 
          SORRY ON THAT ONE. 
          IS IT MOSTLY GOING TO BE, UM, FOSTERS THAT STOPPED HER RESPONDING? UM, IT COULD BE THAT IT COULD BE THAT A FOSTER, YOU KNOW, THE PET GOT AWAY FROM HIM. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, UM, USUALLY WHEN WE ADDED THIS TO THE, TO THE, TO THE ACTUAL ISSUE IS WHEN WE HAD THE, UH, A COUPLE OF DOGS THAT WERE WALKED OFF THE PROPERTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, UH, NUMBER, UH, 15 ON THE NUMBER OF CATS RELEASED UNDER THE ANIMALS, SHELTER, NEUTER RETURN, YOU HAD BEEN REPORTING ON THAT. 
          I GUESS WHEN IT TOOK PLACE, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED THERE. 
          HAVEN'T BEEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS RECENTLY, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE'RE CAPTURING, UH, THIS SPECIFIC AGE GROUPS. 
          AND SO I WAS HOPING MAYBE THAT WE COULD CAPTURE THAT, UH, WITHOUT A SPECIFIC REPORT, SINCE IT'S NOT THAT MANY EACH MONTH RIGHT NOW, IF ANY, AND THEN THE NUMBER OF INTACT ANIMALS ADOPTED ARE RETURNED TO OWNER AND AN EXPLANATION FOR EACH, IT SEEMS THAT THAT'S A REPORT THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO RUN BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AN OUTCOME ADOPTED REPORT AND THEN SORTING BY THOSE THAT AREN'T ALTERED AND THEN PULLING THE RECORDS AND LETTING US KNOW WHAT THE SITUATION IS. 
          I'LL VERIFY WITH, WITH OUR IT FOLKS TOMORROW ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR WEEK. 
          WELL, THAT REPORT I KNOW, FROM WHAT YOU'VE SENT, I MEAN, LIKE, I MEAN, THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY TO SORT THROUGH IF WE HAVE TO HAVE IT, BUT THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PULL THE RECORD TO EXPLAIN WHY. 
          SO YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO FIND THE POPULATION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, GIVEN THAT WE'VE WALKED THROUGH THIS, THANK YOU. 
          AND I FEEL LIKE WE CAN PROBABLY GET MOST OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, IN SOME FORM OR A PIECE OF IT BY NEXT MONTH, I, UM, WITHDRAW MY MOTION AT THIS TIME AND WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THIS STANDING UNTIL NEXT MONTH AND SEE IF IT'S RESOLVED AND IF NOT, THEN SEE WHAT ELSE IS NEEDED. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, THAT SOUNDS FINE WITH ME. 
          UM, I WOULD JUST INVITE STAFF THAT I CAN HEAR THE URGENCY IN PALMER'S VOICE, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET ANOTHER MONTH WHERE SHE DOESN'T WANT TO TAKE SOME ACTION. 
          SO I WOULD INVITE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS AND I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU, AND I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH PALMER ON COMING UP WITH SOME GAME PLAN FOR GETTING IT DONE. 
          AND IF IT'S GOING TO THE COUNCIL AND SAYING, WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS IT PERSON MORE DAYS A WEEK, WHETHER IT'S WE NEED AN IT, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, THAT WE NEED TO GET IT DONE. 
          AND SO I INVITE YOU IF IT'S NOT DONE NEXT MONTH, PLEASE COME WITH A PLAN SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THAT PLAN AND THAT REQUEST IN THE LETTER TO COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU, PALMER. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, LUIS, UH, GOOD NIGHT, EVERYBODY. 
          UH, I HAVE A QUESTION, ANY CHANCE BECAUSE I AM TAKING SOME NUMBERS HERE ON THE NUMBER 11, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS TRANSFERRED TO A RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS I CAN SEE ON BY THE WAY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THESE PAPER. 
          21, 20 AND 19 ON THE 19TH, WE TRANSFERRED 650 
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ANIMALS, TWENTY TWENTY TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY THREE AND TWENTY ONE, THREE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN. 
          ANY CHANCE ON THE POINT, NUMBER 11, WE CAN CHECK TO, TO WHO WE TRANSFERRED BECAUSE THE NUMBER IS . 
          DO YOU KNOW, WE WAS TRANSFERRING A LOT OF ANIMALS ON 2019 AND IN 2021, WE WERE TRANSFORMING 311. 
          MAYBE WE CAN IDENTIFY WHICH RESCUE GROUPS ARE PULLING MORE ANIMALS, WHICH ONES ARE PULLING LESS ANIMALS FROM US. 
          AND IN THE OTHER POINT, MAYBE ON THE POINT NUMBER 12, UH, THIS IS WITH, UH, DR. 
          LON VISIBLY PREGNANT NEEDS TO BE ALMOST AT THE END OF THE GESTATION, RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE IF A DOG EATS IT'S PREGNANT WITH SIX WEEKS, IT'S UNABLE TO SEE THEM OR YES. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT'S VISIBLY PREGNANT. 
          IT'S IT'S PRACTICALLY LIKE ONE OR TWO WEEKS BEFORE, RIGHT. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          YES. 
          IF, IF, IF YOU ALL A STAFF CAN HELP US TO IDENTIFY BECAUSE FROM THESE PULLING ANIMALS, THE 652 ONLY 2, 311 IS LIKE A BIG GAP. 
          IF WE CAN IDENTIFY WHICH GROUPS ARE PULLING MORE ANIMALS OR LESS ANIMALS, MAYBE WE CAN BEGIN TO WORK WITH THAT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, WELL THEN 
          [3c. Working Group on Off-Leash Dogs.]
LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT SIDE. 
          WHEN WAS WORKING GROUP ON OFF-LEASH DOGS? UH, JOANNE, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I HOPE TO DO A MORE, UM, FORMAL PRESENTATION TODAY, BUT, UM, WE, UH, HAD TO HAVE OUR LAST, UH, MEETING CANCELED AT THE LAST MINUTE. 
          SO, UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE, UM, WE'VE KIND OF, UM, HAVE LIKE A GROUP OF TASKS AND THE BIG GROUP OF TASKS AND THE AA GROUP IS WRAPPING UP. 
          UM, THE BROCHURES THAT, UM, CRAIG AND I, UM, CREATED AND, UH, WITH THE TEXTS LOOK REALLY GOOD. 
          AND THEN THE PARD TEAM DID A PHENOMENAL JOB, UM, REALLY MAKING THEM NICE. 
          SO, UM, HOPEFULLY THOSE WILL BE READY IN THE NEXT WEEK WITH A FEW MINOR TWEAKS AND WE'LL GO UP ON THE AAC WEBSITE AND THE PARKS WEBSITE. 
          AND THEN IF ANY OF US, UM, PEOPLE WRITE TO US OR WE HAVE, UM, WE SEE THREADS ON SOCIAL MEDIA WITH INCORRECT INFORMATION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO JUST POST THESE BROCHURES UP. 
          SO, UM, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THOSE. 
          UM, OUR MEDIA PUSHES, UM, GOING WELL. 
          UM, WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A SLOGAN WE'RE GONNA USE FOR OFF-LEASH DOGS. 
          UM, WE ARE WORKING ON A JINGLE WITH A COUPLE OF LOCAL AUSTIN MUSICIANS AND, UM, THE PARKS MEDIA TEAM IS INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          SO WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO GO REALLY WELL. 
          UM, THEY'VE GOTTEN SOME, UH, GIVEAWAYS AND THE PARK RANGERS ARE GONNA PLAN TO, UM, BE, UM, OUT IN SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE DOGS TRANSITIONED FROM SAY AN, AN AWFULLY SHERIA TO AN ODDLY AREA, BUT THEY'RE STILL OFF LEASH, SO THEY CAN TALK TO EVERYBODY, UM, AT LEAST IN THE PARKS ABOUT THOSE ISSUES AND, UM, OUR NEXT, UH, SO I SHOULD HAVE MORE PARTICULARS AND, UH, UH, COPIES OF THE BROCHURES, UH, NEXT, UH, MONTH. 
          AND, UM, WE, UH, THE NEXT STEP IS TO LOOK AT, UM, HOW CITIZENS CAN REQUEST OFF-LEASH DOG AREAS, UM, IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS TO MAYBE AVOID SOME OF THE PEOPLE JUST RANDOMLY USING PARKS OR RANDOMLY USING STREETS OR WALKING THEIR DOGS WITHOUT, UM, BEING IN A PARK AND GET THAT INFORMATION OUT. 
          AND, UH, THE OFF-LEASH, UH, MEDIA WON'T JUST FOCUS ON PARKS. 
          IT'S GOING TO FOCUS ON NEIGHBORHOODS AND STREETS, WHICH IS A LOT OF PROBLEMS PEOPLE ARE HAVING. 
          SO, UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. 
          UM, WE MEET EVERY OTHER WEEK AND HAVE, UM, HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENTS IN BETWEEN AND WE GET THEM DONE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY, WELL, 
          [3d. Working Group on How to Increase Microchipping in the City of Austin.]
WE'LL MOVE ON THEN, UM, WORKING GROUP ON HOW TO INCREASE MICROCHIPPING IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WE'VE HAD, UH, SEVERAL SUCCESSFUL CLINICS AND, UM, ARE TRYING TO DO MORE OFFSITE ALSO. 
          AND IT'S BEEN GOING REALLY WELL. 
          THERE'S MORE DEMAND FOR MICROCHIPS OUT THERE. 
          ALL OUR CLINICS ARE ALWAYS FULL. 
          UM, WE HAVE, UH, THEY'RE WORKING ON THREE PSA'S. 
          WE HAVE A RADIO STATION THAT, UH, WILL PRODUCE THEM FOR THE US AND LET US USE, SEND THEM TO OTHER PLACES TO BE ABLE TO USE FOR MICROCHIPPING. 
          AND, UH, THEY HAVE GOT THE MATERIAL AND THEY'RE SCHEDULED THE VOICEOVER FOR 
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IT. 
          AND I THINK THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE WEEK BEFORE LAST, AND THEY HAD TO CANCEL IT BECAUSE OF COVID ISSUES. 
          AND SO THEY'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT RESCHEDULE SOON. 
          SO AS SOON AS THAT GETS DONE, UH, HOPEFULLY, AND WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING. 
          AND WE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AND HOPEFULLY WRAP THIS UP WITH SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          UH, 
          [3e. Placement Partner Transfer Agreement.]
SHELTER, SPACE ISSUES, WORKING GROUP, OR NO PLACEMENT PARTNER TRANSFER AGREEMENT. 
          NOW THIS AGREEMENT, UH, IS THE ONE THAT, THAT HAS BEEN RELEASED BY OSS ILLEGAL AND EVERYTHING. 
          AND IT WAS IN THE BACKUP. 
          UH, AND IF EVERYBODY'S READ IT, WE, I MEAN, THE REASON WE ASKED ABOUT THIS AND PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA WAS BECAUSE WE HAD PEOPLE CALLING US UP ABOUT IT. 
          AND THE ONE THAT THEY CALLED US ABOUT WAS WITHDRAWN. 
          AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO SEE THE FINAL VERSION. 
          SO WE WERE IN THE KNOW, SO WHEN PEOPLE CALL US UP, WE SAY, WE KNOW WHAT IT SAYS, AND YES. 
          SO, UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENT ON IT? I THINK THAT'S ALL IS, IS WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY READ IT. 
          I MEAN, WE COULD TAKE ACTUAL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE TAKE. 
          YEAH. 
          PALMER, YOU HAVE A NO, I, NO, NOT ON THAT ITEM. 
          I JUST REALIZED I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO ADD FOR THE, THE REPORTING ITEM. 
          TELL ME, JUST TELL ME WHEN I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS. 
          UM, GOING BACK TO THE REPORTS WHERE IT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ANIMALS TRANSFERRED, UM, IS THAT I DIDN'T SEE THAT THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THAT IN THIS AGREEMENT WHERE THEY DO THAT OPT OUT. 
          SO WHERE IS THAT OPT OUT PORTION? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          CAUSE IT'S NOT HERE IN THIS AGREEMENT BECAUSE IN THE NEW AGREEMENT, THEY, THERE'S NO PLACE WHERE THEY GET TO OPT OUT. 
          SO MAYBE THAT HAS CHANGED. 
          THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT. 
          WELL, WITH THAT, WE'LL HAVE TO GET WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT'S, WE'D HAVE TO ADD THAT CLAUSE TO IT. 
          SO, UM, SO YOU HAVE TO ADD THAT TO THE KIND OF, THEY OPT OUT NOW. 
          UH, THEY WOULDN'T BECAUSE WE DIDN'T, WE HAD, THEY HAD, THEY WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO OPT OUT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PROVIDE IT. 
          SO IT WOULD JUST BE REPORTED IF A TRANSFER WENT TO WHATEVER ORGANIZATION WE WOULD REPORT IT, UM, OR WE'RE TRACKING IT NOW, WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO OPT OUT ON THAT? JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, THE REASON IS BECAUSE, UH, IF THAT BECOMES PUBLIC DATA, THAT THAT ANIMAL WENT TO THEM. 
          AND, UH, PREVIOUS OWNERS THAT HAVE BEEN IN JAIL AND THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE HARASSED HER, UH, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY SHOWED UP IN HARASS, RESCUES FOR THAT ANIMAL OR, UH, AND IS LEGALLY, IT WAS THEIRS, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, HARASSED THEM ON THE PHONE EMAIL. 
          SO THEM HAVING SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY IF SOMEONE WANTS TO FIND OUT INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE AN ANIMAL WENT, WE GIVE IT TO THE RESCUE AND LET THEM CONTACT THEM RATHER THAN MAKING THAT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC AND TELLING THEM OUT HERE HERE'S WHERE IT WENT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ANYWAY, SO YES, GO AHEAD. 
          SO I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT, BECAUSE NOWHERE, NOWHERE IN HERE, DOES IT TALK ABOUT ANIMAL NAMES, DESCRIPTIONS? IT JUST SAYS A NUMBER. 
          SO HOW IS, HOW IS SOMEONE GOING TO KNOW FROM 12 DOGS TRANSFERRED THAT HIS DOG WAS ONE OF THEM OR HER DOG WAS ONE OF THEM OR HER CAT, UH, PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO ADD TO THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO LEGAL AND TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE REPORT AND HOW THIS WAS MISSED. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY A LOT OF THAT WAS A VERY GOOD CATCH AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT I THINK THIS COMMISSION IS GOOD AT HELPING YOU GUYS WITH. 
          I MEAN, I CERTAINLY DIDN'T CATCH THAT PRETTY INTERESTING. 
          YES. 
          RIGHT. 
          I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE IN THIS PARTNER AGREEMENT. 
          I MEAN, CERTAINLY IF THEY JUST SENT YOU AN EMAIL SAYING WE OPT OUT OF THAT, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE PLENTY. 
          GOOD ENOUGH. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT OCCASIONALLY YOU ARE GOING TO GET LIKE A PUREBRED DOCS OR A PUREBRED SOMETHING, AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE ONLY ONE THAT YOU HAVE FOR SIX MONTHS OF THAT ONE. 
          AND THAT'S GOING TO GO TO THAT SHEER RED RESCUE AND THEREFORE IT MIGHT BE EASILY IDENTIFIABLE. 
          UM, THAT'S WHAT I RECALL YOU SAYING AT THE TIME WE BROUGHT THIS UP THE FIRST TIME THAT THERE MIGHT BE A VERY DISTINCT ANIMAL THAT YOU WOULDN'T EVEN NEED THE RECORDS TO GO FIGURE OUT WHICH ANIMAL IT WAS. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S WHY WE PUT IN THE OPT-OUT SO THAT IF AN ORGANIZATION DIDN'T 
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WANT TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT LIST, THAT THAT WAS UP TO THEM TO NOT BE INCLUDED. 
          UM, ANYWAY, IN ANY EVENT ON THIS, ON THIS, I, I THINK THAT THE CITY AND STAFF AND LEGAL DID A TERRIFIC JOB, AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PARTNER AGREEMENT. 
          I THINK THIS IS, THIS SHOULD BE A MODEL PARTNER AGREEMENT THAT, UM, OTHER CITIES SHOULD BE USING, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY QUITE GOOD. 
          AND, UM, I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO DOING IT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, WELL THEN LET'S 
          [3f. Shelter Space Issues Working Group.]
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS A SHELTER SPACE ISSUES WORKING GROUP. 
          I WILL TAKE THAT ONE LEAD THAT DISCUSSION FOR OUR, UM, WORKING GROUP. 
          SO WE ARE STILL HARD AT WORK ON THE SPACE ISSUES AND, UH, OUR MEETING ALL THE TIME, PUTTING IN SEVERAL HOURS, UM, WE HAVE DELIVERED THE FIRST SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL. 
          WE'RE ALL TALKING WITH OUR COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES. 
          UM, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I WAS HOPING TO GET AN UPDATE FROM SHELTER STAFF ON WHERE WE STOOD ON THE PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          UM, AND THANKFULLY THERE'S ONLY FIVE OF THEM. 
          SO I WILL TRY AND BE BRIEF HERE. 
          UM, BUT, UH, CHIEF PLANNED ON THE RECOMMENDATION FOR RAPID MEDICAL MAKE READY, WHERE WITHIN 48 HOURS OF OWNERSHIP, TRANSFERRING TO AAC, THE ELIGIBLE ANIMAL WILL BE STERILIZED. 
          CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH WHETHER THESE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED AT ALL YET PREVIOUSLY WHEN YOUR REPORT SAID THAT WE WERE 65%, THAT ACTUALLY WAS ONLY 31%. 
          SO WE WERE WELL ON OUR WAY TO ACHIEVING THAT. 
          AND LIKE YOU HEARD DR. 
          LENZO EARLIER, WE WERE AT 93%, 96% ALREADY, UH, THROUGH TODAY. 
          SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT. 
          SO YOUR SURGICAL CAPACITY, YOU'RE YOU'RE WELL WITHIN YOUR CAPACITY TO, TO HIT YOUR NUMBERS HAVE BEEN GOING UP AND THAT'S FANTASTIC. 
          SO THAT MUST BE WITHIN YOUR CAPACITY TO DO IT. 
          WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS THERE. 
          WELL, WE ACTUALLY, UH, BROUGHT ON AN ADDITIONAL VET. 
          WE LOST TWO AND BROUGHT ONE BACK ON, SO THAT, UH, PERSON THAT, UH, TEMPORARY RELIEF THAT HELPED US OUT ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE COMMUNITY RESOURCES BE OPEN AND OPERATING SEVEN DAYS PER WEEK WITHIN YOUR NORMAL HOURS OF OPERATION. 
          CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH WHETHER YOU'VE IMPLEMENTED ANY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? WE HAVE NOT. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE STATED EARLIER IN OUR PROGRAM. 
          UM, WE HAVE NOT. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE TO KIND OF RECAP AS, AS TO WHY, OR IF THERE IS ANY BARRIERS, I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PRC, UM, NOT BEING OPEN ON THE WEEKENDS BECAUSE OF, UH, HISTORICALLY YOUR INTAKE HAS BEEN LOW ON THE WEEKENDS, BUT THE PRC EXISTS FOR REASONS OTHER THAN INTAKE, WHICH IS MY YES. 
          AND ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES, PEOPLE THEY'RE DELIVERED INTO THE FIELD, UH, YOU CAN SAVE BY OUR REPORTS THAT, UM, WE HAD FORTY SEVEN HUNDRED AND FORTY SEVEN ITEMS, UH, DELIVERED IN THE FIELD. 
          UH, THEY DON'T, THEY AND THEY NEVER HAVE, EVEN BEFORE COVID COME TO THE SHELTER, MOSLEY IS WHEN THEY CALL NEEDING RESOURCES, THEY'RE DELIVERED TO THEM AND WE ARE STILL DOING THAT, LIKE WE HAVE BEEN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO JUST FOR CLARITY ON THE PRC OR ON THE RESOURCES BEING OPEN AND OPERATING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, YOUR, YOUR RESPONSE IS THAT WE'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO IMPLEMENT ANY OF THOSE YET, CORRECT? RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ON THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PREVIOUS, UM, DOCUMENT LIMITING, UNAVAILABLE HOLDS ON SHELTER, HOUSE DOGS AND CATS, AWAITING TRANSPORT OR RESCUE, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO IMPLEMENT ANY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS YET? OKAY. 
          AT OUR LAST TRANSPORT, UH, EVERY ONE OF THE ANIMALS THAT WENT ON IT WAS IN FOSTER AND IT WAS NOT TAKING ANY SPACE INTO THE SHELTER WHERE THEY MARKED AS UNAVAILABLE. 
          YES. 
          SO WE HAVEN'T TAKEN ANY ACTION TO LIMIT UNAVAILABLE HOLDS IF, IF A TRANSPORT TAGS AND ANIMAL TO PULL IT'S UNAVAILABLE AND IT'S GOING INTO FOSTER, IT'S NOT TAKING UP CAGE SPACE. 
          YES. 
          SO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THOSE UNAVAILABLE CATS AND DOGS ARE IN FOSTER. 
          NOW WE'RE THROUGH OUR LAST TRANSPORT. 
          AND THE FIRST TIME WE HAD ABOUT HALF OF THEM THROUGH THERE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK TIME TO RAMP IT UP AND GET THE PROGRAM ROLLING ON THE NEXT ONE RETURN PROGRAM LEVELS TO PEAK SUPPORT LEVELS. 
          CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH WHAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THERE ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? SO WE HAD DON FOSTER ENRICHMENT BEHAVIOR. 
          WE, I, I DON'T RECALL RIGHT AWAY, WELL, EXACTLY WHAT THE DETAILS WERE ON THAT, BUT, UM, WE HAVE 
          [01:35:01]
NOT CHANGED ANY OF OUR PROGRAMS AND TO ADD MONICA WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO INCREASE HOW, HOW QUICKLY WE PROCESS FOSTER APPLICATIONS. 
          WE'VE NOW STARTED DOING MORE ORIENTATIONS WHERE VOLUNTEERS AND, AND SETTING UP, UH, WE HAVE, PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE TO, TO COME IN AND, AND ACTUALLY GO THROUGH ORIENTATIONS MENTORSHIPS, UH, TO, TO VOLUNTEER AT THE CENTER. 
          UM, ALSO BEHAVIOR ENRICHMENT. 
          I MEAN, WE, WE STILL HAVE DOG WALKERS, UM, COMING IN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON TRYING TO GET MORE RUNNERS FOR PLAYGROUP, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE HIM IMPLEMENTS AND PROGRESS ON THAT. 
          UH, THE FINAL ONE, UH, CHIEF LAN THE FOLLOWING REPORT SHOULD BE UTILIZED BY AAC STAFF, UM, AND DELIVER IT TO THE COMMISSION EACH WEEK. 
          HAVE WE MADE ANY PROGRESS OR COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH ANY OF THESE THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED? I'M HAPPY TO LISTEN TO IF YOU WANT THEM. 
          I'M AWARE OF THE ONES THAT WE AS COMMISSION ARE NOT GETTING, PLEASE DO, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME. 
          I CAN'T RECALL WHICH ONES THEY WERE. 
          UNSTERILIZED DOG AND CAT REPORT, COMPLETE SPACE COUNT FOR CATS AND DOGS REPORT HOLDS AN UNAVAILABLE DOG REPORT ON AVAILABLE AND HOLDS ON CAT REPORT. 
          AAC OWNED DOGS HOUSED IN NON-PUBLIC KENNELS, THE DOG FOSTER REPORT, THE CAT FOSTER REPORT, DOG INVENTORY, CAT INVENTORY, PUBLIC SERVICE, WAIT, TIME, MEDICAL RESCUE, DEADLINE, MEDICAL CARE RECEIVED FROM OUTSIDE AAC AND MEDICAL TREATMENT AREA INVENTORY. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE, BUT PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 
          THAT COMMISSION CURRENTLY DOESN'T GET ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE DOG INVENTORY FROM THIS LIST. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT JASON IS SENDING TO YOUR WORKING GROUP. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S UM, AT LEAST WITH THOSE PARTICULAR ONES, I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY PROGRESS WITH TRYING TO BUILD AND, OR GET THOSE, THOSE REPORTS WITH OUR IT PERSON. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          IF, IF WE WERE TO GET THEM AUTOMATED, BE SORT OF THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT AT THE START OF THE WORKING GROUP WHERE IT WAS PIECEMEALED WITH OTHER REPORTS THAT WOULD BE EXISTING ON THERE, BUT NOT OKAY. 
          I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE WORK WORKING GROUP THAT WOULD HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD EXCEPT TO THANK EVERYBODY ON THE WORKING GROUP, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A PRETTY BUSY SCHEDULE OF LOTS OF REGULAR MEETINGS, AND WE ARE HOPED TO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING LARGE DOG FOCUS, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING ON SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE THINK MIGHT HELP WITH, UM, SPACE ISSUES WITH LARGE DOGS. 
          THANKS. 
          YES. 
          I WANT TO THANK ALL THE COMMISSIONERS INVOLVED. 
          UH, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND I WANT TO THANK ALL THE TEAM FROM THE AEC SENDING, UH, THE DATA. 
          WHEN, WHEN HE'S ASKED IT, I LOVE THE IDEA TO INVITE THE COMMISSIONERS, TO COME TO THE AUSSIE 91 CENTER AND DO, UH, A WORKING GROUP THERE THAT WE CAN SEE, UH, EXACTLY WHAT IS THE ANIMALS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT A LOT, OR MAYBE MAYBE KNOW SOME OF THE DOGS THAT, THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF TIME RIGHT THERE. 
          AND I LOVE THE IDEA TO INVOLVE MORE PEOPLE AND THE PEOPLE GO, OF COURSE, IT'S WATCHING THESE TV TO COME TO THE SHELTER AND, AND GIVE US A HAND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR THAT. 
          UH, LET'S GO ON TO AUSTIN PETS ALIVE FUTURE. 
          IT'S NOT LIKE ANIMAL CENTER. 
          OKAY. 
          REAL QUICK. 
          UM, CRAIG, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. 
          CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING REGARDING THE DATA THAT I'VE MISSED? I WENT BACK THROUGH, SORRY, THE MOVING PIECES, UH, REGARDING NUMBER EIGHT, UM, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY PAID TO THIRD PARTY PROVIDERS FOR SERVICES, UH, OPERATED ANIMAL SHELTER OR EMERGENCY MEDICAL TREATMENT ON THAT. 
          IF YOU DON'T HAVE A REPORT THAT'S RUNNABLE, COULD YOU JUST BRING, LIKE, GIVE US COPIES OF THE INVOICES, UH, IN THE MEANTIME, UNTIL YOU'RE ABLE TO RUN SUPPORTING INFORMATION WITH THE ANIMALS, OR I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT MAY BE MISSING OR WE'LL BE LATE OR WON'T BE UPDATED ACCORDINGLY, IS THE SPAIN AND NEUTERING, ARE THEY AT LEAST FOR THE MEDICAL COSTS? I MEAN, THE INVOICES THAT COME IN WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRACK, UM, SO WE COULD GET COPIES OF THE OTHER INVOICES OR WHATEVER IT WAS AVAILABLE. 
          I, I THINK SO. 
          UM, CAUSE THEY RUN THROUGH OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEMS OFF TO FIGURE OUT OR FIND OUT THAT DATA OF WHAT WE'RE PAYING AT LEAST FOR MEDICAL PROCEDURES, SPAYING AND NEUTERING, DEPENDING ON HOW QUICKLY WE GET THOSE INVOICES OR IF WE GET THE DATA FROM EMANCIPATE AND AHS, THE RAW DATA IS STRAIGHT UP BEFORE THEY ARE. 
          I JUST WANTED, WE HADN'T TALKED ON THAT ONE. 
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SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IN THE MEANTIME, BEFORE REPORTS RUNNABLE, UM, PERHAPS WE COULD LOOK AT INVOICES, THANK YOU. 
          AND WE PROBABLY WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          UH, YOU HEARD ME MENTIONED THE LAST MONTH'S REPORT. 
          UH, SO FAR FISCAL YEAR TO DATE THROUGH YOUR EMERGENCY CLINIC, WE'D SPENT 418,345 OURS. 
          AND WHEN WE GET REPORTING OF THAT, SO THAT'LL BE START BEING INCLUDED. 
          UM, SO WE CAN TRY TO GET SOME IDEA OF WHERE THAT SPENDING IS WITH THE MONTHLY REPORTS SINCE THAT'S NUMBER EIGHT, THAT'S THE MONEY PAID TO THIRD-PARTY PROVIDERS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE ECS, THE EASY ONE. 
          IT'S THE AMANDA PET AND THE HS THAT ARE THE MORE DIFFICULT CRAIG. 
          YES. 
          SO I'M GOING TO PULL A DAVID LUNSTEAD AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE SHOCKED. 
          UM, BUT I, AND I'M NOT DIRECTING THIS TOWARDS ANYONE, BUT I DID, I HAVE DIRECTED THIS IN THE PAST, BUT I JUST WANT TO MENTION JUST SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AGAIN, THAT WE DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO DIRECT STAFF TO DO ANYTHING, UM, THAT, UH, WE CAN ASK FOR THINGS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE DIRECT POWER TO DIRECT THEM TO DO ANYTHING. 
          UM, THE COUNCIL DOES THAT. 
          SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AND NOT TRYING TO BE CRITICAL OF ANYBODY. 
          I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE CALL IT OUT ALL THE TIME AND NOT JUST WHEN IT'S IN THE PEOPLE WE SUPPORT OR DON'T SUPPORT. 
          I THINK IT'S, WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT THAT'S A LINE THAT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD EVER CROSS BECAUSE IT GETS INTO, UM, IT'S BEYOND OUR ROLE. 
          UH, SO ANYWAY, I JUST I'M PULLING, UM, I'M I'M CHANNELING DAVID LUNSTEAD, WHO WOULD HAVE JUMPED ON ALL OVER US, ALL OF US TODAY, PROBABLY. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. 
          [3g. Austin Pets Alive!’s Future at the Town Lake Animal Center and the Maintenance of No Kill in Austin.]
THEN LET'S GO ON TO, UH, THE AUSTIN PETS ALIVE FUTURE AT THE TONIC ANIMALS CENTER AND MAINTENANCE OF NO KILLING AUSTIN, I GUESS BASICALLY THAT'S HOW ARE THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS GOING? CAN YOU TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? UH, YOU HEARD ME REPORT LAST MONTH AT THE END OF JULY, WE HAD MET WITH APA AND PROVIDED, UH, OUR COUNTER OFFER AND WE'VE NOT HEARD BACK ANYTHING ON THAT. 
          UH, THEY DID REACH OUT TO LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND ASK ABOUT OUTSIDE THE FIVE COUNTY AGAIN, AND THEY HAVE RECEIVED A RESPONSE, BUT WE HAVE PERSONALLY WE'VE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING FURTHER THAN THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I, THERE'S PROBABLY NOT A LOT DON CAN SAY ABOUT THIS ANYWAY, BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, WELL THEN LET'S 
          [4a. Creation of a committee related to the City’s No-Kill policy and amend the Commission’s bylaws accordingly.]
GO ON TO NEW BUSINESS. 
          UH, NOW THIS, UH, FIRST ONE IS CREATION OF A COMMITTEE RELATED TO THE CITY'S NO-KILL POLICY AND AMEND THE COMMISSION'S BYLAWS ACCORDINGLY. 
          AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE COMMITTEES IN, BUT WE CAN THE BA THE BYLAWS, UM, WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE COMMITTEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO? THE AUDIT? YEAH, IT, IT, IT'S A COMMITTEE OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND IT'S MEETING NEAR THE END OF SEPTEMBER. 
          SO IF WE CAN GET THIS, UM, PASS, WE CAN GET IT THROUGH THAT COMMITTEE. 
          SO WE CAN, UH, FORM, UH, ONE COMMITTEES, WHICH WOULD BE NOW, YOU KNOW, A STANDING COMMITTEE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT AN ITEM OR ITEMS, UH, ON THE AGENDA THAT CAN BE THE COMMITTEE EVERY MONTH. 
          AND THAT IN ORDER TO DO THIS, THOUGH, WE HAVE TO WRITE THE, WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO DO SPECIFICALLY. 
          SO LET'S THROW THAT OUT HERE AT, AND THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BIG AND COMPLICATED, BUT WE JUST NEED TO, TO LIMIT WHAT, WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO EXIST FOR. 
          SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEAS OF WORDING FOR THAT? GOOD QUESTION. 
          I'M CONFUSED BY WHY WE'RE HAVING A COMMITTEE OR WHY WE'RE SUGGESTING A COMMITTEE. 
          UM, IT SEEMS THAT THE OVERSIGHT FOR NO KILL, I, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE ANIMAL CENTER, BUT THEN IT FALLS ON TO THE, UM, TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER TO, UM, AND THE NEW ONE WHO SEEMS INCREDIBLY WELL-QUALIFIED AND HAS A LOT OF GOOD EXPERIENCE AND A LOT OF GOOD COMMUNITY EXPERIENCE TO MAKE SURE WE MEET THE MANDATE. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN KEEPING THEM, WE'VE BEEN OVER 95%. 
          SO WHY ARE WE HAVING A COMMITTEE? 
          [01:45:03]
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT? I'M HAPPY TO RESPOND. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          PALMER. 
          WE TALKED TO ONE OF OUR WORKING GROUPS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE FORMAL, UH, TO WORK ON MAINTAINING OR SUSTAINING NO IN AUSTIN, GIVEN THE CHALLENGES THE WORKING GROUPS HAVE BEEN FACING ON THE ISSUES THAT KIND OF NEED A DEEP DIVE AND TRY TO HELP TRY TO UNTANGLE AND SUPPORT. 
          AND SO THE IDEA FIRST CAME UP ON A DISCUSSION FIRST CAME UP. 
          I THINK I BROUGHT IT UP ABOUT SOMETHING A BIT MORE FORMAL THAN A WORKING GROUP. 
          AND SINCE THEN, UM, HAVE BEEN VISITING WITH MY COUNCIL OFFICE REGARDING IT. 
          AND, UM, A COMMITTEE WOULD ALLOW, UH, CAN HAVE MORE MEETINGS BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE COULD HAVE MEETINGS REGARDING NO-KILL SUSTAINABILITY. 
          AND MY HOPE WOULD BE THAT IT WOULD MAYBE WORK MORE ON BIG PICTURE AND INSTEAD OF, UH, TROUBLESHOOTING, UH, VARIOUS ITEMS. SO THIS IS WHAT WE IN THE WORKING GROUP THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT THE CURRENT SPACE CRISIS THAT WE HAD IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARTICULAR MANAGEMENT TEAM. 
          THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. 
          UM, I KNOW THIS IS MY THIRD DIRECTOR AND WALKING IN, UH, THREE AND A HALF YEARS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE DOGS IN CRATES ANYMORE, WHICH WAS THE PAST SOLUTION ON JUST POP THEM IN 15 CRATES OF DOGS THAT GOT OUT 30 MINUTES A DAY, AND WE'RE IN A CRATE, UM, FOR 23 AND A HALF HOURS. 
          AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL WE DON'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE. 
          BUT, UM, AND SO THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S NOT ASSOCIATED WITH AN ADMINISTRATION, BUT JUST ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING SOMETHING IN PLACE SO THAT WE COULD TRY TO ELIMINATE SOME OF THESE LITTLE CRISIS'S THAT COME UP. 
          UM, LIKE THEY HAVE, UH, RECENTLY WITH SPACE AND HAVE IN THE PAST WITH SPACE AND POSSIBLY COULD COME UP IN THE FUTURE WITH SPACE. 
          SO IT'S, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? HAVE SOME KIND OF OVERSIGHT. 
          I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY THE WAY WE SPOKE ABOUT IT IN OUR WORKING GROUP. 
          CORRECT. 
          IT WAS NOT IN REGARDS TO A MANAGEMENT, IT WAS IN REGARDS TO OVERSIGHT OF MAINTAINING NO KILL. 
          AND AUSTIN WAS THE WAY I REMEMBER IT, CRAIG. 
          YES. 
          RIGHT. 
          I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A STANDING COMMITTEE BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE IS A, I THINK WE DO HAVE A GAP IN THAT THERE ARE OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT ARE GOING TO MEET MORE OFTEN AND WE MEET ONCE A MONTH AND IT WOULD ALLOW US ESSENTIALLY A SUBCOMMITTEE, A GROUP OF US TO MEET MORE OFTEN, ASK MORE QUESTIONS, GIVE THE PUBLIC MORE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE. 
          UM, SO I LOVE THE IDEA AND I'LL, I'LL SUPPORT IT. 
          UH, I KNOW IF WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THERE'S A STAFF LIAISON INVOLVED WITH A COMMITTEE. 
          SO, UH, IT'S A KIND OF PLANNING THING. 
          I MEAN ABOUT, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION AND EVERYTHING. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE A CLOSER CONNECTION. 
          THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO KILL WAS IMPLEMENTED AND IT, BUT IT'S A MOVING TARGET. 
          I'VE ALWAYS SAID THIS. 
          I THOUGHT THIS. 
          AND, UH, WHAT AUSTIN HAS DONE IS IT'S BEEN KIND OF AT THE FOREFRONT OF THAT BEEN BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST NO-KILL SHELTERS, YOU KNOW, IN THE UNITED STATES, IN THE WORLD THAT HAS, THAT'S A NO KILL SHELTER AND WE HAVE A PANDEMIC AND WE HAVE CHANGING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE CLIMATE CHANGE, WHICH IS CAUSING THESE BIG STORMS TO COME IN, WHICH CREATES ISSUES WITH PETS COMING FROM OTHER AREAS. 
          AND I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A MOVING TARGET. 
          AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S THE KEY, IT'S THE KEY TO OUR SHELTER AND TO THE, TO THE CITY IN A WAY, THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT IT, THE WAY WE LOOK AT ANIMALS. 
          AND I THINK IT REALLY IS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO HAVE A COMMITTEE. 
          I REALLY DO. 
          UH, UH, THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN NO KILL THAT WE HAVEN'T TOTALLY IMPLEMENTED YET THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL WANTED, BUT WE HAVE NOT TOTALLY IMPLEMENTED THEM YET. 
          AND THAT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT'S TOTALLY IN CONTROL OF THE SHELTER AS A PART OF THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE, WHERE WE CAN HELP THAT AS ADVICE TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT CAN SET AND CHANGE POLICY. 
          I MEAN, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE REALLY, UH, WE SHOULD DO. 
          I THINK, UH, I THINK THIS WOULD HELP, HELP US FOCUS ON IT IN A CONSISTENT WAY, RATHER THAN WORKING GROUP WORKING GROUPS, THEN DISSOLVE IT, WORKING ANOTHER WORKING GROUP WE'RE HERE, WE'VE SAID DISSOLVE IT. 
          WE CAN HAVE A CONSISTENT FOCUS ON THIS. 
          I WOULD SUPPORT THE IDEA. 
          UH, CRAIG, I JUST FORGOT TO MENTION THAT. 
          ONE OF THE IMPETUSES THAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME IS THAT THE WORKING GROUPS ARE 
          [01:50:01]
SUPPOSED TO BE TEMPORARY. 
          UM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO IS HAVING A WORKING GROUP THAT HAS A NAME AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET FILE A REPORT, RIGHT? R AND D RECOMMENDATION. 
          THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO AWAY. 
          WE'VE GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM THAT AND KIND OF HAVING, UM, UH, LONG-TERM WORKING GROUPS. 
          AND SO I THINK THE NO KILL COMMITTEE, UH, GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A STANDING SECOND MEETING EVERY MONTH. 
          I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DID IT EVERY, EVERY OFF WEEK, YOU KNOW, SO THAT IF, IF, IF THIS IS ON THE FIRST OF THE, AROUND THE FIRST, OR I GUESS THIS IS AROUND THE SEVENTH, MAYBE MAKE THAT ONE AROUND THE 21ST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC HAS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE. 
          THAT GROUP CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS GROUP, BUT YET YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          IT DOES REQUIRE SOME STAFF TIME BECAUSE THESE MEETINGS HAVE TO BE POSTED ON LIKE WORK GROUPS. 
          THEY HAVE TO BE PUBLIC ON LIKE WORK GROUPS. 
          UM, I'M ALL FOR TRANSPARENCY. 
          AND SO THAT THAT'S YET ANOTHER REASON I SUPPORTED US TO, TO MOVE MORE WORK TO A PUBLIC FORUM RATHER THAN JUST PRIVATE WORKING GROUPS. 
          AND MINUTE DID ALSO THEY'RE THEY'RE MINUTED. 
          YES. 
          I SUPPORT THIS GROUP IN SPORT BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE LEAVING ALL THE WEIGHT AS A NO-KILL PRACTICALLY ONLY TO THE AAC WHEN WE ARE A COMMUNITY. 
          IF WE DON'T INCLUDE ALL THE COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY IS GOING TO BE VERY CHALLENGING. 
          AND AS, AS YOU SAY, PANDEMIC, UH, GLOBAL WARMING AND ALL THE THINGS IS GOING TO BE VERY CHALLENGING. 
          BOTH IF WE INVITE THE FULL COMMUNITY TO BE PART OF THESE IS GOING TO BE MUCH, MUCH EASIER. 
          OF COURSE, ALL THE RESCUE PARTNERS ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR US. 
          UH, AND I KNOW I SUPPORT THIS, NOT A BIG DEAL. 
          RIGHT. 
          GREAT. 
          I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          AND I THINK HAVING A STAFF LIAISON IS, UM, UH, GOOD. 
          UH, CRAIG, CAN YOU TELL US WHO ELSE, UM, GENERALLY IS ON THIS TYPE OF COMMITTEE? WELL, OKAY, SO THE COMMITTEE, UH, IT, IT CAN'T BE A, UH, IT CAN'T BE MORE THAN FIVE PEOPLE. 
          UH, WELL IT COULD BE SIX, YOU CAN'T HAVE A QUORUM OF THE COMMISSION, SO IT CAN'T BE SEVEN, IT COULD BE SIX, BUT THEN THAT MAKES A PROBLEM WITH VOTING. 
          YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, SO THE, THE NORMALLY COMMITTEES ARE FA ON, UH, OUR, UH, COMMISSIONER, OUR SIZE OF COMMITTEE WOULD BE FIVE OR OVER WELL OBSERVATIONS. 
          YES. 
          UM, JUST TO CHIME IN TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID, UH, FRANKLY, I THINK, WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO SURPRISE ANYBODY BASED ON COMMENTS I'VE MADE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS THAT I ABSOLUTELY THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO MONITOR OUR NO-KILL STATUS. 
          WE WORKED WAY TOO HARD TO GET HERE. 
          AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO MONITOR THAT. 
          I THINK ANY GROUP THAT PUTS TOGETHER THIS KIND OF EFFORT IS FRANKLY, OBLIGATED TO MONITOR ITS PROGRESS AND TO LOOK AT WHERE IT'S BEEN AND WHERE IT'S GOING. 
          AND SINCE WE JUST HIT 10 YEARS, WHAT A GOOD TIME TO ACTUALLY LOOK BACK AND CHECK AND SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE, IF WE'RE MEETING OUR MILESTONES AND IF WE'RE NOT, LET'S DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 
          SO I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT IT AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS CLEARLY DEFINED WHAT THIS COMMITTEE'S PURVIEW IS, AND IT WOULD, OF COURSE, FILL A COMMITTEE TO PALMER SAID, UM, CAN YOU, YOU SAID IT EARLIER, WAS IT TO, TO SUSTAIN NO KILL? I MEAN, WHAT, I I'LL USE YOUR WORDS. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, I I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS ON THIS, BUT I THINK I HAD ORIGINALLY SAID THAT IT WAS A COMMITTEE THAT SUSTAINING NO KILL AND AUSTIN. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THAT RIGHT THERE. 
          NOW LET ME READ THAT BACK AND THINK ABOUT IT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO CLEARLY DEFINE IT, YOU KNOW? SO, UH, WHAT WE GOT IS A COMMITTEE TO SUSTAIN NO KILL IN AUSTIN. 
          I SECOND, YOU LIKE THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          SO A COMMITTEE TO SUSTAIN, BUT CAN WE ALSO ADD IN AND MOVE FORWARD? YOU KNOW, KILLED? THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          YEAH. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S A VERY GOOD MAN. 
          I REALLY THINK IF NO KILL IS NOT A MOVING TARGET, THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO REMAIN NO KILL. 
          YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? IT'S LIKE, IT'S WHERE YOU APPROACH IT, WHERE WE'RE NEVER GOING TO NOT KILL. 
          AS WHO SAID, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO NOT KILL EVERY ANIMAL. 
          BUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS BECOME BETTER AT NOT KILLING ANIMALS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND I THINK AS SOMEBODY SAY JUST TIME AGO, 
          [01:55:01]
WE NEED TO REEVALUATE ALL THE TIME AND WE NEED TO CHECK YEAH. 
          AND CHECK A RECHECK. 
          WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER. 
          I THINK WE ARE DOING VERY, VERY GOOD RIGHT NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          I CAN DO IT. 
          YEAH. 
          I WOULD AGREE A COMMITTEE TO SUSTAIN AN ADVANCE NO-KILL AND AUSTIN IT'S EVERYBODY LIKE THAT. 
          SO WE NEED A MOTION BECAUSE YOU MOVED IT. 
          YOU SECOND. 
          IT, SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE CREATION OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, RELATED TO CITY'S NO KILL POLICY, WHICH WOULD BE A COMMITTEE TO THE STAIN AND ADVANCED NO KELLEN, AUSTIN, BEN FIRST AND SECOND ED. 
          SO, UH, ANY MORE DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET'S VOTE ON THIS ALL IN FAVOR. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S UNANIMOUS ANY ISO YES, NO UNANIMOUS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOW THE SECOND THING IS WE ARE GOING TO REQUEST THAT THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, UH, UH, ALTERS, I BOUGHT A BYLINE LAWS TO ESTABLISH SUCH A COMMITTEE WITHIN OUR BYLAWS. 
          SO DO YOU NEED A MOTION ON THAT? OKAY. 
          SO WE MOVED TO REQUEST PERMISSION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL AND WHATEVER COMMITTEE IS NECESSARY TO ALLOW US TO AMEND THE BYLAWS, TO ALLOW US TO, UM, HAVE A COMMITTEE ON NOCO. 
          OKAY. 
          I SAID THAT SECOND, SO, AND THEN ANY DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THEN LET'S VOTE. 
          HOW MANY IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? OKAY. 
          THAT'S UNANIMOUS ALSO. 
          SO THIS SHOULD GO TO THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE IN SEPTEMBER, WE MAY BE ABLE TO APPOINT MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          UM, WE DIDN'T SAY HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON THE COMMITTEE. 
          I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO, IT'S GOT IT'S. 
          IT CAN'T BE MORE THAN FIVE. 
          WE COULD, DEPENDING ON WE COULD DO THREE, FOUR OR FIVE, SO, 
          [4b. Transferring Austin Animal Center Animals to Other Communities.]
OKAY. 
          SO LET'S MOVE ON. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          TRANSFERRING AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER ANIMALS TO OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          THIS IS MY AGENDA ITEM. 
          I DON'T HAVE A MOTION TO BRING FORWARD, BUT I WANTED TO, I SOMETIMES I TRY TO DO THIS TO GIVE THE, A PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON, ON THINGS. 
          AND I KNOW THAT, UM, THIS FORMAT MADE IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE. 
          UM, AND THAT WAS, THAT'S THE, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S THE GOVERNOR'S ORDERS. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE MY STAFF, YES, ESSENTIALLY, YES, EVERYTHING PUBLIC TESTIMONY HAS TO BE IN PERSON. 
          SO, UM, IF PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. 
          UM, I'M ON A, UM, A CITY OF ROLLINGWOOD COMMISSION AND WE HAVE THE SAME, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME RULES THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS, BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE ARE THE RULES THAT THE GOVERNOR'S GIVING US. 
          SO WE DO INVITE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE, UM, IN PERSON, IF YOU CAN. 
          UM, WE ALL CHECK OUR EMAIL AND, UM, SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL US IF YOU'D PREFER TO DO IT THAT WAY. 
          BUT, UM, I WANTED TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE, UM, I KNOW IT WAS A BIG TOPIC LAST MONTH. 
          UM, I, MY, I ENVISION RECOMMENDING A ORDINANCE CHANGE THAT, UH, REGULATES THE TRANSPORT SO THAT IT GOES TO COMMUNITIES WITH A 95% OR HIGHER SAVE RATE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT IT DOES ANIMALS ANY GOOD TO TAKE THEM FROM A HIGH SAVE RATE COMMUNITY AND SEND THEM TO A LOW SAVE RATE COMMUNITY. 
          I'M OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS. 
          ANYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT. 
          I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO WORK IN GROUP, BUT IF ANYBODY WANTS TO, UM, HAS IDEAS AND WANT TO TALK TO ME ABOUT IT, I'D LOVE TO TALK TO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT IT, AND WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING FOR NEXT MONTH, BUT THAT'S, OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I NEED TO REPORT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I HAD SOME, I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON HOW WE ABOUT DETERMINING THE LIVE OUTCOME RATE. 
          SO SHOULD I TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT SEPARATELY? AND THEN WE COULD YELL ABOUT IT NEXT MONTH. 
          YEAH. 
          LET'S TALK THROUGH IT AND SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I MEAN, THEY, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ABOUT THE FORMULA AND WHEN WE EXPECT THE REPORTING AND WOULD WE ALSO EXPECT OUR LOCAL SHELTERS TO FOLLOW THE SAME 95% RULE. 
          SO, SO I WILL REACH OUT TO YOU. 
          IT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT TOPIC, I THINK, TO JUST TRANSFER ANIMALS TO ANY SHELTER MAKES NO SENSE, BUT JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          UM, DURING THE LAST MONTH'S MEETING I HAD ASKED FOR A CENSUS OF ALL THE ANIMALS THAT HAD BEEN TRANSPORTED OUT AND STAFF, UM, SO THAT THEY WAS A COMMISSION AND I DON'T THINK I EVER RECEIVED IT, PLEASE, CORRECT ME IF OTHER PEOPLE DID 
          [02:00:01]
AND I MISSED IT. 
          UM, BUT I STILL REALLY LOVE TO SEE THAT CENSUS, IF YOU ALL DON'T MIND SENDING OVER THE ANIMALS THAT HAVE BEEN TRANSPORTED OUT SO FAR. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I DID ASK THAT THE STAFF AND I FAILED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, SO WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          I JUST, I KNOW THAT YOU WERE ASKED A LOT DURING THE LAST MEETING. 
          I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP AND MAKE SURE THAT I REMINDED, REMINDED MYSELF AND ALL OF YOU. 
          THANKS. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          SO THEN A FEW, I HAVE A, YES, I HAVE A COMMENT. 
          SO, UM, UM, LAST MONTH MEETING WAS, UH, SLIGHTLY DISTURBING TO ME THE WAY, UH, THAT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE NEWEST MEMBER OR ONE OF THE NEWEST MEMBERS OF AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, A STAFF MEMBER, NOT A MANAGEMENT. 
          UM, IT STILL UPSETS ME THAT SHE WAS BASICALLY ATTACKED HERE IN THIS MEETING BY COMMISSIONERS. 
          UM, SHE WAS GONE AFTER WITH PEOPLE THAT HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THINGS THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE WITH HER WASN'T PREPARED FOR. 
          AND I THINK IT WAS UNPROFESSIONAL OF US AS A COMMISSION TO ALLOW THAT, TO CONTINUE. 
          AND I, I APOLOGIZE TO THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER MANAGEMENT AND TO THE TRANSPORT PERSON, SARAH MURPHY FOR NOT SPEAKING UP AT THAT TIME. 
          UM, BUT I DID WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY HOW MUCH, SAY HOW MUCH THAT UPSET ME AND THAT NONE OF US MYSELF INCLUDED STOPPED IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          WELL 
          [5. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
THEN WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT AGENDA ITEM, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UH, SO, UH, IS THERE ANY THREE, A THROUGH G THAT WE CAN DROP OFF HERE? OR SHOULD WE KEEP THOSE ALL ON HERE? WE CAN DROP OFF E PLACEMENT PARTNER TRANSFER AGREEMENT. 
          YEAH, WE CAN DROP THAT. 
          UH, WE DROPPED THE MICROCHIP, UM, WORKING GROUPS SINCE THAT SEEMS TO BE GOING WELL. 
          IT'S IT'S, UM, PEOPLE. 
          AND SO IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT, WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK NEXT MONTH WITH OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATION AND CLOSE OUT THE GROUP. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          SO THEN, UM, UH, FOUR A BECOMES THREE GOES UNDER THREE BECAUSE WE GOT TO KEEP THAT ON HERE BECAUSE, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE DOES, CAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO CREATE THE GROUP, THE CREATE APPOINTED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN FOR B, WE WANT TO KEEP THAT ON HERE, SO, OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE A THROUGH H CAUSE WE'RE TAKING ONE OFF. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER, A FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. 
          WELL THEN IF ANY COME UP, OF COURSE, GIVE ME A CALL. 
          WE GOT TWO COMMISSIONERS HE PUTS ON THERE. 
          AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LIVING THROUGH SOME WEIRD TIMES. 
          I READ A VERY INTERESTING, I'VE SPOKEN TO DON ABOUT THIS ARTICLE IN NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC, WHICH TALKED ABOUT THE PROBLEMS GOING ON IN SHELTERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. 
          AND THEY'RE NOT DISSIMILAR THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH THAT SAID THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AND IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT FOR US TO NOT GET, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT OURSELVES WITHIN A BIGGER CONTEXT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. 
          AND I THINK THAT IN THE ANIMAL COMMUNITY, THERE'S A LOT OF PASSION AND THAT PASSION KINDA GETS, GETS MORE EMOTIONAL THAN OTHER COMMISSIONS MIGHT. 
          BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I THINK WE HAVE VERY GOOD PEOPLE HERE IN THIS ROOM WHO ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE HAPPEN. 
          AND THAT IF WE KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH EACH OTHER TO TRY AND MAKE THIS WORK BETTER, THAT I THINK THINGS WILL GO AS SMOOTHLY AS THEY CAN. 
          SO, BUT I DO WANT TO SAY, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE. 
          I REALLY DO. 
          THANK 
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YOU. 
          ALL MEETING ADJOURNED AT, OH, WHAT TIME IS IT? 8 0 5. 
          PRETTY GOOD TIMING. 
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