* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. AND THEY CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. [Music Commission on September 13, 2021.] [00:00:03] THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION. TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 13TH AND WE ARE AT THE AUSTIN CENTRAL PUBLIC LIBRARY. A VERY NICE PLACE TO BE. WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH CITIZEN COMMUNICATION. I'M GOING TO CALL CODY COW. HELLO HULU. HEY Y'ALL THANKS FOR THE TIME I CAME HERE TO SPEAK A LITTLE ABOUT ONE OF THE TOPIC. DOES YOURS LIVE MUSIC FUND FIRST RECOGNIZE THAT WE'VE CREATED SOMETHING REALLY SPECIAL HERE? THIS THERE'S NO FUN LIKE THIS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, UH, TALKING TO PEERS NATIONWIDE. SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE A BRIEF APPLAUSE TO EVERYONE IN HERE FOR THEIR TIRELESS EFFORTS AND BRINGING THIS FORWARD. SO THANK YOU ALL TODAY. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE ON THE HORIZON WITH THIS FUND. WE, THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND KNOW HOW HARD WE WORKED TO TRY TO GET IT TO THIS PACE SPACE, THIS JUNCTURE, WE KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS TALKING WITH CULTURAL ARTS ABOUT HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES, AND WE KNOW HOW STRAPPED THOSE FUNDS ARE TODAY BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. WE HAVE A LITTLE PIECE OF THE CRUST OF THE PIE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW THAT IF WE PUT IN PLACE IT IN A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR, LIKE THE ADC, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOLKS OF US IN THE PRIVATE SIDE AND NONPROFIT SIDE, PARTICULARLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OUTREACH TO THOSE FOLKS LIKE FACEBOOK OR 3M OR OTHER COMPANIES THAT COME TO AUSTIN FOR THEM TO GIVE BACK INTO THIS FUND FOR MUSIC. THE THING THAT IS DRIVEN, THE GROWTH IN THIS CITY, THAT THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE AND ALLOW US TO PAY MUSICIANS MORE AND MORE MUSICIANS. SO I JUST LIKE TODAY FOR EVERYONE HERE TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND CONSIDER THAT ADVANTAGE THAT WE HAVE NO OTHER CITY IN THIS COUNTRY HAS A LIVE MUSIC FUND. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO BE PAYING DIVIDENDS, NOT JUST WHEN IT OPENS, BUT FOR THE DECADES TO COME. SO PLEASE CONSIDER UTILIZING THAT FUND THROUGH A THIRD PARTY ADMIN AND REALLY PUSHING FOR US TO GROW THAT FUND SO WE CAN KEEP PAYING MUSICIANS AND MAKE THAT MAKE THE CITY. GREAT. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. NEXT UP. WE HAVE PAT PUTA, AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS. IT'S OVERWHELMING. OOH, TO BE HERE AND BE UP ON THE MIC. OBVIOUSLY TODAY. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF YOU GUYS IN A LONG TIME. LOT'S HAPPENED SINCE THEN. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM. WHO'S WORKED SO HARD TO, UH, MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR MUSIC COMMUNITY'S LIVES SPECIFICALLY. YOU, YOU WORKED HERE NOT GOING TO SAY THE WORD I WANT TO SAY, BUT YOU WORKED HARD TO HELP. SO THANK YOU SHAKA. SO NOVIA KIM, STEPHANIE, ERICA. THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE THIS LAST YEAR. UH, TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE HONEST, SAVE LIVES OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. OKAY. UM, SO, UH, I'M HERE TO JUST REAL BRIEFLY SPEAK ABOUT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AS WELL. UM, LIKE CODY SAID, THIS IS A HISTORIC, UH, FIRST EVER OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SOME SUSTAINABLE PUBLIC FUNDING TO MUSIC IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN. UH, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T THINK THIS HAS EVER HAPPENED ANYWHERE ELSE. UH, SO KUDOS TO EVERYONE WHO WORKS SO HARD TO, TO BRING IT HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. UM, AND I GUESS MY ONLY THING I'D WANT TO SAY TODAY IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I HOPE YOU GUYS, UH, ENTERTAIN ALL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE BEFORE, UH, VOTING TO GO FORWARD, UH, WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE, UM, WHERE THE MONEY LANDS WHO'S GOING TO MANAGE THE MONEY. UM, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE PERSONALLY THAT FUND, UH, GROW AND THRIVE. UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ONLY TIED TO HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES, UH, AS WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST YEAR, THAT CAN BE SOMEWHAT, UH, SUSPECT TO THE TIMES AND SOMEWHAT ANEMIC. AND SO, UH, WE'D CERTAINLY LIKE TO WRANGLE SOME OF THE OUTLANDISH AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT ARE IN THE CITY NOW AND TRY TO GET THEM TO INVEST IN THIS FUND. UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAINLY MORE INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT YOU GUYS I DON'T THINK HAVE HEARD YET. AND, UH, WHEN YOU GUYS GET A CHANCE TO, [00:05:01] UH, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT INFORMATION IN THAT DATA, UH, THEN I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU CAN MAKE A FULLY INFORMED DECISION AND VOTE, UH, IN THAT WAY. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND GOOD LUCK TO Y'ALL. ALL RIGHT. NOW ANSWER THE, UH, APPROVAL OF MINUTES. I HAVE A POINT OF POINT OF INFORMATION IF IT'S POSSIBLE. I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT, UM, WHY CODY WOULD JUST, WE CAN'T ACTUALLY, UM, RESPOND TO THE COMMUNICATION DIRECTLY. OKAY, THANKS. UM, APPROVAL OF MINUTES. SO MOTION TO APPROVE. WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND COMMISSIONER PIPE. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR POSTS RIGHT NOW ON TO OLD BUSINESS, TO A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM, AUSTIN MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF FUND, AND THIRD PARTY CONSIDERATIONS OF WHICH WE HAD TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT. SO I ACTUALLY HAVE A MOTION ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THE AGENDA, THE GREEN LIGHTS ON I'M JUST QUIET NOW, URI. OKAY. UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION FROM AEDC BEFORE WE DISCUSS THE, THE LIVE MUSIC FUN AND THE CONSIDERATIONS ON THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATION. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO BUMP THAT AND THE AGENDA, AND ALSO, UM, THAT THAT'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF ITEMS IN ONE DISCUSSION. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLARIFYING AND MAYBE HAVING A SEPARATE DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE DISASTER RELIEF FUND AND THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE AREN'T GETTING LUMPED TOGETHER. SO SOME OF MY ADC HERE, NO THEY'RE MEETING, SORRY. UH, THEY'RE MEETING THEY'RE MEETING IS TONIGHT ALSO SO THAT WE HAD OVERLAPPING MEETINGS. UM, SO YEAH, SO CONSIDERING WHAT RUN'S SAYING, UM, WE CAN THINK ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE THAT. UM, I MEAN, WE CAN DISCUSS, WE CAN, I MEAN, WE HAVE, THE STAFF IS READY TO PRESENT FINAL FRAMEWORK ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. SO I WOULD, I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT THE THIRD-PARTY CONSIDERATIONS AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW TO WORK THIS TECHNICALLY WITH THE AGENDA THAT THIRD-PARTY CONSIDERATIONS, LIKE MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS SEPARATELY IN THAT ITEM. SO WE COULD GO TO TWO A AND DISCUSS THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. UM, AND TALK ABOUT THE FINAL FRAMEWORK. YEAH, GO AHEAD. UM, LAST YEAR IN CHARLOTTE, DID YOU ALL GET THE MEMO FROM VERONICA ARSENIO ABOUT LATIN MUSIC FAN AND CULTURAL CHEST? UH, I BE RECEIVED A MEMO FROM ADC. YEAH. THAT TALKED ABOUT THE CULTURAL TOURIST AND THE DISASTER RELIEF FUNDING. UM, IT DIDN'T DISCUSS THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, SO I ASSUMED BY A MISSION AT THAT POINT, THEY WEREN'T READY TO DISCUSS IT, BUT, UM, UNDERSTOOD THAT SOMETHING CAME UP AT THE BOARD MEETING TONIGHT. YES. SO AS SECRETARY OF THE BOARD, I CAN BRIEF YOU IF YOU'D LIKE. OKAY. SO DO WE THOUGH, JUST AS A MATTER OF LIKE, PROTOCOL, DO WE NEED TO, I GUESS WHY DON'T I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE UP ITEM TV AND TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST SECOND. OKAY. OKAY. I WANT A FAVOR. OKAY. POST, ALL RIGHT. ITEM TWO D IS MOVE NOW MOVE TO TWO A GOOD EVENING. UH, MUSIC COMMISSIONER, SOUL NOVIA, HAUTE, RAB, SECRETARY OF THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. AND THE AEDC DID MEET THIS EVENING. AND AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE WE ARE SO YOUNG IN OUR INCEPTION, WE DO NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MANAGE THE LOUD MUSIC FUN. IT IS NOT OFF THE TABLE OF OUR RELATIONSHIP IN THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF LEVERAGING FUNDS FUNDRAISING, WE DO REALIZE THAT AS PART OF THE BYLAWS [00:10:01] FUNDRAISING WAS A COMPONENT. AND SO THE AEDC WILL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON HOW THE FIRMS CAN BE LEVERAGED. BUT AT THIS TIME, EVEN IF WE TOOK ON THE MANAGEMENT OF THE LAB MUSIC FUND, THE AEDC WOULD HAVE TO HIRE A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR JUST LIKE EDD WOULD HAVE TO HIRE A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR. IN ADDITION AEDC WOULD, COULD POTENTIAL CHARGE A FEE ON TOP OF WHAT THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATIVE WOULD CHARGE A BEFORE. SO WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE LOUD MUSIC FUND AT THIS TIME. AND YOU WILL HEAR FROM STAFF LATER ON, ON THE PROPOSAL OF A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR, BUT WE WILL BE HAVING FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON A RELATIONSHIP AND HOW WE CAN FUNDRAISE AND ASSIST THE LATIN MUSIC COMMUNITY. I HAVE A QUESTION. GO AHEAD. IS THE, UM, IS IT BECAUSE THE AEDC IS ALSO, UM, DOING THINGS WITH THE CREATIVE SPACES BOND AS WELL? THE AEDC HAS OFFICIAL ONE STAFF MEMBER ON BOARD. THAT'S THE CHIEF TRANSACTION OFFICER, ALL OTHER STAFF, VERONICA PRESIDIO IS PLAYING DUAL ROLES AND THEY'VE AT COLLAGEN IS PLAYING DUAL ROLES. SO LITERALLY SHE, SHE WAS BROUGHT ON TO HELP EXECUTE THE CULTURAL TRUST AND OTHER PROJECTS. SO ONCE THE CEO IS HIRED AND WE GET MORE STAFF ON BOARD IN THE FUTURE, THEY ARE LOOKING AT THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW IS STAFFING CAPACITY. UM, SO CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT IN TERMS OF LIKE FUTURE INTEREST OF ADC AND MANAGING THE FUND AND HOW THEY, IF THERE'S A CAPACITY THERE TO GROW THE FUND THROUGH, UM, THE CORPORATE PHILANTHROPY OR PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS, RIGHT. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL FURTHER DISCUSS IN TERMS OF NEXT MONTH. THAT'S AN ITEM ON OUR BOARD AGENDA TO DETERMINE WHAT THE FUTURE WILL LOOK LIKE. WHAT DOES FUNDRAISING LOOK LIKE? WHAT DOES THE PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY LOOK LIKE AND HOW WE CAN INTERACT AT THIS TIME, THE CITY CAN TAKE DONATIONS AND CONTRIBUTIONS, BUT WE DO REALIZE THAT THE AEDC WAS CREATED TO TAP INTO THOSE UNREACHED AREAS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS, BUT IN TERMS OF A TRANSACTIONAL PROCESS FOR THE LATIN MUSIC FUND AT THIS TIME, NO, BUT IN THE FUTURE WE WANT TO DISCUSS, HOW DO WE LEVERAGE, HOW DO YOU RAISE MONEY, ET CETERA? SO IT'S NOT A NO, IT'S AN, WHEN, WHEN COULD THAT HAPPEN? IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULD BEGIN SOME TYPE OF REPORT FROM, UH, THAT SAYS LAST EMMETT, RIGHT? I MEAN, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EACH MEETING WE SHOULD BE HEARING FROM IF HE CAN'T MAKE IT THEN. YEAH. SO BECAUSE OF THE LABOR DAY HOLIDAY BUMPING OUR MEETING, THAT'S WHY THERE'S THE OVERLAP. SO HE'S DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN ATTENDING THE OCTOBER MEETING AND I THINK THEY WANTED TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE LIVE MUSIC SIGNED AT THAT POINT. UM, SO WE'LL PLAN TO SEE THEM DEFINITELY HAVE AN ADC UPDATE STANDING ON MY AGENDA AND WE'LL DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY INTERSECT WITH MUSIC AND FUND MANAGEMENT AND ALSO CAPITAL PROJECTS. I HAVE A QUESTION. CAN WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY AWARENESS AND JUST TRYING TO COORDINATE SO THAT IT'S NOT OVERLAPPING IN THE FUTURE TO AN EXTENT YES. THIS AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE LABOR THEY HOLIDAY, THE MUSIC COMMISSION SCHEDULE DID NOT ALIGN AS NORMAL. AND I HAD THE OTHER MEETINGS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN SET FOR THE AEDC AND I CAN SHARE THOSE. SO IT SHOULDN'T BE A CONFLICT. UH, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO NOVIO, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT THE AEDC MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN CAKING ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY OF RAISING MONEY, ESPECIALLY FROM CORPORATE DONORS. THEY'RE NOT READY YET WHEN THEY ARE READY, WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO SHARE THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR THIS ROLE? BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IN OUR INTEREST TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IS HIRED AT A LEVEL SUFFICIENT, UH, REQUIRING THE EXPERIENCE THAT THAT'S NEEDED SO THAT WE GET SOMEONE REALLY GOOD IN THAT JOB, IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT THEY DO CHOOSE TO PURSUE, IF THAT IS THE DIRECTION THEY CHOOSE TO HIRE A FULL-TIME FUNDRAISER, JUST LIKE THE CEO POSITION, WE SHARED THAT LINK WITH YOU. ALL, WE WILL CONTINUE [00:15:01] TO SHARE ALL INFORMATION IS CORPORATION, JUST LIKE CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE TO PUBLISH OUR AGENDA FILE A TOMA, ET CETERA. SO WE WILL DEFINITELY ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. YEAH, NO, ONLY THAT WE PLAN TO HEAR FROM ADC ABOUT THESE TOPICS IN THE NEXT MEETING ON OCTOBER 4TH. OH, SORRY. I CAN'T, I CAN'T QUITE FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MASK. YEAH. SO LET'S JUST PLAN TO HAVE ADC TALK ABOUT LIVE MUSIC FUND AT THE NEXT MEETING SO THEY CAN TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE THERE. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, SYNOVIA. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM. DID I DIE HERE? DID YOU WANT TO TABLE THE AUSTIN DISASTER? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WERE SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS. YEAH. SO I JUST THINK, WELL, UM, WELL HERE ARE THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT. AND THEN THE THIRD PARTY CONSIDERATIONS AND DISASTER RELIEF, THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS PACKED INTO THIS ONE ITEM. SO LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE, THEY ARE SEPARATE. SO IT LOOKS JUST LIKE THIS THEY'RE JUST IN A ROW AND THEN WE'LL EXPLAIN THE THIRD PARTY, BUT THERE ARE SEPARATE PROGRAMS, SEPARATE FUNDS, SEPARATE REQUIREMENTS. SO THAT IS SEPARATE. AND THEN THE THIRD PARTY, THE ONLY THING IS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER THAT AN INTERESTING OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME STREAMLINING. OKAY. SO HELLO, ERICA. SHAMLEY I AM THE DIVISION MANAGER FOR MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU GUYS ALL LIKE IN PERSON. IT'S REALLY COOL. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK, LIKE WE SAID, ABOUT THE TWO PROGRAMS, THIS IS A LONG PRESENTATION, A LOT OF THIS STUFF YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN BEFORE. SO WE'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THE SLIDES. YOU'VE SEEN SEVERAL TIMES, AND THEN WE'LL HOVER ON THAT, THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AROUND GUIDELINES TO INFORM YOU. AND WE CAN, LET'S JUST HOLD. WE CAN HOLD QUESTIONS TO AFTER EACH PRESENTATION. AND IF YOU DON'T MIND SO THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH EVERYTHING AND THEN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW HOW THE LIVE MUSIC FUND WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2019 AND WHAT THE LIVE MUSIC EVENT PROGRAM IS ABOUT TO SUPPORT LIVE AND VIRTUAL MUSIC SHOWS AND SPECIAL EVENTS THAT COULD BE MARKETED TO LOCAL AUDIENCE AUDIENCES, POTENTIAL TOURISTS AND KOMBUCHA DELEGATES, AND THAT WE HAVE SOME PRIORITY AREAS FOR APPLICANTS. NEXT SLIDE. UM, SO THE PURPOSE IS TO ENCOURAGE, IMPROVE AND SHOWCASE AUSTIN'S DIVERSE LIVE MUSIC INDUSTRY THROUGH SUPPORTING AND ONLINE MUSIC EVENTS AND SHOWS. WE WANT TO SUPPORT AUSTIN'S PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, BANDS, AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS WHO PRODUCE AND PROMOTE LIVE AND ONLINE SHOWS THAT CAN BE MARKETED TO LOCAL AUDIENCES, VISITORS, AND CONVENTION DELEGATES. AND THE MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION PROVIDED THAT PI PRESERVATION INNOVATION AND ELEVATION WOULD BE THE PART OF THE CORE PRINCIPLES OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND PRO FUND, WHATEVER PROGRAM COMES OUT OF IT. SO BASICALLY PIE IS THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. NEXT SLIDE. SO REAL QUICKLY, WE'LL GO OVER THOSE PIE CORE PRINCIPLES. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE. SO THE P AND PIE PRESERVATION AND ENRICHING THE PAST, WE'RE INVESTING IN THE HISTORICAL CULTURAL HERITAGE OF AUSTIN MUSIC AND TRADITIONS. AND THIS CAN BE DEMONSTRATED THROUGH THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES, CULTURAL HERITAGE, MUSIC, HISTORY EVENTS, AND SHOWS, INCLUDING EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOPS AND PRESENTATIONS, AS WELL AS DESTINATION EVENTS AND SHOWS FOR CULTURAL HOLIDAYS AND OTHER ANNUAL EVENTS. THAT'S FOR PRESERVATION, THE EYE INNOVATION ENVISIONING THE FUTURE INVESTMENT IN THE INNOVATION OF TRADITIONAL BUSINESS MODELS, COMMITTED TO INNOVATIVE AND INCLUSIVE PRACTICES TO BUILD CAPACITY. AND THESE CAN INCLUDE GENRE, DIVERSITY EVENTS AND TALENT DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES, NEXT SLIDE, AND THE FINAL PART OF PI THE E ELEVATION AND COLLABORATION EMPOWERING THE PRESENT. AND THIS IS AN INVESTMENT IN THE ELEVATION EDUCATION AND PROMOTION OF AWESOME MUSIC FROM HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES. AND SO YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE COLLABORATIONS WITH BIPAP TALENT BUYERS, PROMOTERS TO CREATE AND MARKET SHOWS OF UNDERREPRESENTED GENRES AND ARTISTS PARTNERSHIPS WITH ESTABLISHING GLOBAL NATIONAL MUSIC BRANDS, DURATIONS OF LARGE AND SMALL PUBLIC EVENTS THAT SPECIFICALLY HIGH HIGHLIGHT EMERGING BIPAP TALENT AND COLLABORATIVE WORKSHOPS FOCUSED ON OVERCOMING THE CHALLENGES FACED BY EMERGING BIPAP ARTISTS IN THE AUSTIN MUSIC SECTOR, THINGS LIKE AND DOING RACISM TYPE TRAINING COLLABORATIONS WITH SUCH PUBLIC CONTROL SPACES AS LIBRARIES AND MUSEUMS. AND WE WANT TO SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE. SO PRIORITY APPLICANTS, AS YOU KNOW, ARE APPLICANTS WHO ARE BLACK INDIGENOUS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR [00:20:01] BIPAP, WHICH INCLUDE BLACK AFRICAN-AMERICAN NATIVE AMERICAN, ASIAN, HISPANIC, LATINO, MIDDLE EASTERN, OR PACIFIC ISLANDER INDIVIDUALS. WE ALSO WANT TO PRIORITIZE APPLICANTS WHO ARE OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY AS WELL AS APPLICANTS FROM THE DISABILITY COMMUNITIES AND APPLICANTS WHO ARE WOMEN IDENTIFYING. AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL PRIORITIES SET FORTH BY PI AND BY THE MUSIC COMMISSION SPECIFICALLY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO ELIGIBILITY DEFINITIONS, YOU'VE SEEN THESE BEFORE, THROUGHOUT SEVERAL PROGRAMS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS OF HOW WE DEFINE A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN AND AN INDEPENDENT PROMOTER. I'M NOT GOING TO STAY TOO FAR ON THIS NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THEN THE LGB REQUIREMENTS. SO THIS IS NEW NEW INFORMATION, AND THIS IS BASED ON FEEDBACK. WE HEARD NOT ONLY FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION, BUT FROM THE MANY DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE PRESENTED THE GUIDELINES TO SPECIFICALLY THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN QUALITY OF LIFE COMMISSION, AS WELL AS THE HISPANIC, LATINO QUALITY OF LIFE COMMISSION, THE EQUITY INCLUSION, EQUITY, INCLUSION, EQUITY, INCLUSION COMMISSION, SEVERAL DIFFERENT ONES. WE HAD SOME GREAT IDEAS, AND THIS IS A LOT OF THESE IDEAS ARE BEING CARRIED OVER TO OTHER PROGRAMS SO THAT YOU SEE PARODY AND STREAMLINING AGAIN, THROUGHOUT OUR PROGRAMS. AND AGAIN, THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE TO REMOVE BARRIERS THAT WE'VE HAD PREVIOUSLY, SO THAT WE REALLY CAN OPEN UP THESE PROGRAMS TO NEW AUDIENCES AND ALSO TO NEW APPLICANTS FROM THAT ARE MUSICIANS AND PROMOTERS. SO YOU ARE ELIGIBLE IF YOU LIVE IN THE MSA, THAT'S THE AUSTIN AREA, THE FIVE COUNTIES OF TRAVIS WILLIAMSON HAYES BASS DROP IN CALDWELL COUNTIES. IF YOU PERFORM SOLO, LEAD A BAND, OR HAVE AN EQUAL STAKE IN A BAND, AGAIN, ALSO INDEPENDENT PROMOTER PROMOTERS THAT LIVE IN THE MSA. NOW THE ACTIVITIES THAT CAN BE PROPOSED BY THESE ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS HAVE TO TAKE PLACE EITHER IN THE ETJ OR WITHIN A COUNCIL DISTRICT. PREVIOUSLY, IT HAD TO BE IN ONE COUNCIL DISTRICT. AND THAT CUT OUT A LOT OF COMMUNITIES OF COLOR THAT HAD VENUES RIGHT OUTSIDE AT A DISTRICT IN THE ETJ. SO AGAIN, REMOVING A BARRIER. SO ONLY ONE APPLICATION FOR MUSICIAN BAND OR PROMOTER AND MUSICIANS MAY PERFORM IN MULTIPLE BANDS THAT RECEIVE AWARDS. HOWEVER, THEY CAN ONLY LEAD ONE APPLICATION AS A BAND LEADER. AND SO THAT WAS A QUESTION FROM GRAHAM ACTUALLY, IF THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. AND SO, YEAH, THAT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE A LOT OF, A LOT OF THESE MUSICIANS PLAY IN LOTS OF BANDS AND THAT'S JUST TOO MUCH TO MANAGE AND IT'S JUST NOT REALISTIC. AND THIS IS TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES HAPPENING IN AUSTIN. SO YOU MUST BE 18 YEARS OLD TO APPLY. AND CITY OF AUSTIN EMPLOYEES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO APPLY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS AN AWARD BUDGET OF 2.3 MILLION. AND THE REASON WHY YOU SEE TWO P 2.3 MILLION AND NOT 2.5 IS THAT WE'RE RESERVING SOME MONEY FOR AN ADMIN FEE FOR A THIRD PARTY, WHICH WE WILL GET TO SHORTLY. SO WE'VE GOT WARDS ARE BETWEEN FIVE TO $10,000 THE FIRST YEAR, AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT, HOW DO WE MAKE IT EQUITABLE? IS THAT THE NEXT YEAR YOU APPLY AND YOU'RE AWARDED THE AWARD WILL GO DOWN BY SOME PERCENTAGE FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, AND THEN IT COMES BACK UP AND YOU START THE CYCLE OVER AGAIN IN YEAR THREE. SO THE FIRST DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS IS 50% OF THE TOTAL AWARD UPON EXECUTION OF CONTRACT. AGAIN, THAT'S FROM FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD THAT 20% OR 30% JUST WASN'T ENOUGH TO GET THE DEPOSITS DOWN AND GET IT. EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO START ADVANCING THE EVENTS AS PART OF THE CONTRACT. AND THEN THE AWARDS WILL THEN BE PAID OVER A 12 MONTH CONTRACT. AFTER THE 50%, YOU JUST DRAW DOWN FOR EXPENSES UNTIL YOUR NIGHT OF SHOW SETTLEMENT. AND THE 10% FINAL, 10% IS PAID UPON RECEIPT OF THE FINAL REPORT. SO ANY FUNDS NOT UTILIZED BY AWARDEES GOES RIGHT BACK INTO THE FUND FOR FUTURE APPLICANTS BECAUSE YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T NEED ALL OF THAT AWARD, LET'S SAY, OR 3000, YOU STILL HAVE 3000 IN THE TILL, AND YOU DID EVERYTHING YOU HAD PROMISED THAT THAT JUST GOES BACK AND BUILDS BACK INTO THE FUND. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO HERE'S JUST MORE DETAILS ON THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES. THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT COULD GO INTO PUTTING ON AN EVENT OR, OR A SHOW, WHETHER IT'S IN A PARK OR A VENUE OR A SCHOOL OR A LIBRARY OR WHEREVER IT IS, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF EXPENSES THAT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM WILL PAY FOR. NEXT SLIDE. DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK AT THAT? DO YOU WANT TO GO BACK? AM I GOING TOO FAST? CAUSE THERE'S A LOT THAT Y'ALL NEED TO LOOK AT THIS A LITTLE BIT LONGER. IF WE GET LIKE A COPY OF IT, WE WILL GIVE YOU COPY. KIM TRIED AND THE, OF COURSE PRINTER WASN'T HAVING IT. YEAH. YES, BUT WE WILL EMAIL IT TO YOU RIGHT AFTER THIS MEETING. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. SO HERE IS THE SCORING CRITERIA. THIS HAS, THIS LOOKS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME OF HOW WE'RE PRIORITIZING [00:25:02] THE SCORING. SO PRETTY MUCH THE QUESTIONS WILL HAVE A CERTAIN ANSWER, WHICH WILL LEAD TO A CERTAIN SCORE. AND SO WE WON'T HAVE THE NEED FOR PURE PANELS WITH A POTENTIAL THIRD PARTY TO GO AND WORK THROUGH THE SCORING. IT'S VERY CUT AND DRY. IF YOU ANSWER THIS WAY, YOU GET THIS POINTS. AND SO IT'S STACKED IN SUCH A WAY OF DIVERSITY TO BUILD IN DIVERSITY INTO THE SCORING SO THAT WE HAVE A WIDE ARRAY OF SCORES PRIORITIZING BY RACIAL EQUITY, BY THE THREE OTHER CATEGORIES THAT ARE IMPORTANT AROUND LGBTQ DISABILITY COMMUNITIES AND WOMEN IDENTIFYING, AND THEN ADDITIONAL POINTS FOR THE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES WE WANT TO SEE IN PI. AND THE REST OF THE POINTS ARE STANDARD POINTS BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE PEOPLE COMPLETING THE WORK NECESSARY TO SHOW THAT YOU ARE READY AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO PUTTING THE EVENT. I'LL JUST HOVER THERE FOR JUST A LITTLE SECOND. WE DO HAVE AN EVENT BUDGET TEMPLATE. THAT'S YOU SEE THE SECOND TO THE END, WE'VE CREATED A INTERACTIVE TEMPLATE THAT APPLICANTS CAN USE. IT'S VERY EASY. THEY JUST PLUG IN THE NUMBERS AND IT DOES THE MATH FOR YOU. YOU CAN BUILD IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE ON TOP OF YOUR EXPENSES AND ON TOP OF YOUR AWARD. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY TICKETS COULD I ALSO SELL TO DO X, Y, AND Z. SO WE WILL HAVE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE FOR APPLICANTS TO NOT GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS, MAKE SURE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THERE AND TO FILL OUT THIS BUDGET TEMPLATE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO ELIGIBILITY DOCUMENTATION, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION PREVIOUSLY AND ALSO TO THE CREATIVE WORKER GRANT. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS. YOU JUST NEED TO HAVE A, FROM THESE THINGS, JUST INCLUDING THESE ARE YOUR OPTIONS. YOU JUST HAVE TO SHOW AT LEAST TWO YEARS OF DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE YOU'RE ELIGIBLE AS A MUSICIAN LIVING IN THE AUSTIN AREA. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE DOCUMENTATION REQUIREMENTS BESIDES ELIGIBILITY ARE AROUND THE I AND THE E OF PI. SO FOR INNOVATIONS, SUCH SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS AS SCREENSHOTS AND ASSESSABLE WEBPAGES OF ONLINE PAYMENT SYSTEMS, SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, EQUITABLE HIRING PRACTICES OF LAYOUT WITH ADA COMPLIANCE AND ASSESSABILITY AND OUTREACH TO LBGTQ AND BIPAP AUDIENCES. AND THIS IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO HOW, WHAT QUESTIONS WILL BE ASKED IN THE APPLICATION AND THEN ELEVATION AND COLLABORATION, EXECUTE AGREEMENTS, OR LETTERS OF INTEREST WITH BIPAP TALENT BUYERS, OR PROMOTERS EXECUTED AGREEMENTS OR LETTERS OF INTEREST WITH EMERGING BIPAP, TALENT, EXECUTE AGREEMENTS, OR LETTERS OF INTEREST WITH GLOBAL AND NATIONAL BRANDS TO HIGHLIGHT THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF BIPAP AUSTIN TALENT. AND THEN ALSO THE DOWNLOADABLE EVENT, BUDGET TEMPLATE. I JUST MENTIONED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE END OF THAT PRESENTATION. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF WHAT WAS JUST PRESENTED TO YOU? AND WE WILL GET INTO THE THIRD PARTY DISCUSSION AFTER THIS PRESENTATION. YES. ORRIN, I HAVE A QUESTION. I NOTICED THAT A FAIR COMPENSATION, ACCORDING TO THE CITY'S GUIDELINES WAS CONSIDERED AS ONLY 10% OF THE SCORE. AND I THINK THAT ANY FUNDING THAT GOES TO PAY MUSICIANS NON-LIVING WAGE, THAT, THAT BOTHERS ME A LOT. THAT SPECIFICALLY PROVIDING THE MONEY, HOW THAT REACHED, THEY GET ZERO POINTS UNLESS THEY PAY THE CITY OF AUSTIN STANDARD RATE OF PAY, WHICH IS 150 AN HOUR PER MUSICIAN, OR IF IT'S A CONTRACTOR, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, MINIMUM WAGE STANDARD, $15 AN HOUR. SO THAT'S THE 10 POINTS. IF THEY SAY, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE POINTS, BUT THEY COULD STILL GET 90 POINTS IF THEY MEET ALL THE OTHER THINGS. NO IT'S 10 OR NOTHING. EITHER SAY YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THOSE STANDARD RATES TO PAY OR YOU DON'T. AND SO IF YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT GETTING, I GUESS HE'S SAYING THAT LIKE HE COULD GET ALL THE OTHER POINTS AND STILL HAVE A HIGH SCORE. IS THAT WHAT, YEAH, THERE'S OTHER POINTS. THAT'S WHY IT'S A STACKABLE SYSTEM. AND SO TO PRIORITIZE AGAIN, LEADING WITH RACE AND WITH OUR PRIORITY APPLICANTS, BUT THEN THERE'S THESE OTHER POINTS SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE SCORING SYSTEM OF WHERE YOU CAN GET POINTS. IT DOES SEEM LIKE A FAIR QUESTION. AND IS THERE A WAY TO JUST PULL THAT OUT OF THE SCORING SYSTEM ENTIRELY AND HAVE IT BE A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU'RE GETTING THIS MONEY AND YOU WERE GOING TO PAY PEOPLE FAIRLY THAT THERE'S NO. YES, SIR. OKAY. YES. I'VE WATCHED SHE'S HER TRUSTY PEN. WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE. NO PROBLEM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, THIS MIGHT BE A MOTION. IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN MOVE, UH, THIS AS A DISCUSSION [00:30:01] WITH ALL THE MUSIC COMMISSIONERS TO THE NEXT MEETING? LIKE JUST TO LIKE, UM, DISCUSS EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST SAW HERE AT LENGTH TOGETHER AND KIND OF LIKE, JUST KIND OF NEAT THIS DOE YEAH. WE USUALLY DO THAT AT THE END OF THE MEETING, LIKE MAKE SUGGESTIONS FOR THE NEXT MINUTE. SO I'LL JUST PUT IT FURTHER IN THAT OR BRING IT BACK. OKAY. AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO MAKE DISCUSSIONS TODAY AS WELL, IF THERE'S ANYTHING SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGES NOW, AS WE GO INTO THE NEXT STEPS, WE WANT TO KNOW AS MUCH FROM YOU GUYS NOW AS POSSIBLE OR IN THE NEXT WEEK. AND YOU OF COURSE, CAN EMAIL ME OR KIM OR STILL YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT ANY OF THESE CONTENT SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR FEEDBACK HAS. SURE, SURE. I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR. I WASN'T LIKE SAYING WE SHOULD LIKE MOVE ON OR ANYTHING. WHAT I MEANT WAS LIKE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, LIKE GUARANTEED HAVING THIS DISCUSSION AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO, UM, I DO HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, LIKE THERE'S A, LIKE, I GUESS PAY RATIOS BASICALLY. LIKE, UH, IF YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU'RE THE PERSON PUTTING ON THE EVENT OR MAYBE YOU'RE THE PERSON THAT'S HEADLINING OR, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU'RE THE LEAD SINGER VERSUS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING PAID BELOW YOU OR, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR BAND. UM, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF DISCUSSION OF EQUITABLE PAY, UM, THERE AS WELL. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF I'M GETTING 5,000 TO $10,000 THERE, NOTHING TO, UM, I GUESS IF I WERE AWARDED THAT MONEY TO BENEFIT THE CITY, THERE WOULD BE NO REASON WHY I PROBABLY WOULDN'T RENT OUT THE MOHAWK FOR, YOU KNOW, ON A FRIDAY NIGHT JUST TO, YOU KNOW, PROMOTE MY LATEST, YOU KNOW, MIX TAPE OR SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, I JUST, I W I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE, UM, CONVERSATIONS ABOUT A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THE WAY THAT THIS TO USE THESE FUZZES ARE GIVEN TO ARTISTS BY THE CITY, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU GET ADDITIONAL POINTS FOR CHOOSING LOCATIONS THAT FIT WITHIN THE PIE CONCEPTS, CORE PRINCIPLES. AND SO THAT WAS OUR GOAL WAS THAT IF YOU PROPOSE THAT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU GOT POINTS IN ORDER TO DO THAT. AND SO WORKING IN VENUES THAT ARE OWNED BY PEOPLE OF COLOR, OR THAT ARE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN, THERE'S ACTUALLY A SCORING POINT FOR EVENTS, NOT IN DISTRICT NINE, SO THAT WE COULD TRY TO MOTIVATE FOLKS TO BE CREATIVE ABOUT WHERE THEY WOULD WANT TO HAVE THESE EVENTS, NOT TO SAY YOU COULDN'T DO IT IN DISTRICT NINE DOWNTOWN IN RED RIVER. THAT'S FINE. IT'S JUST FOR THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY, THAT STACKS POINTS WITHIN ONE OF THOSE PIE CATEGORIES, YOU JUST DON'T GET A PORTION OF THOSE POINTS. SO WE TRY TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, TO TREAT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO. IF YOU SCORED FOR IT, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EXPECT TO SEE WHEN YOU'RE ADVANCING YOUR SHOWS AND THEN YOUR FINAL REPORT. AND THEN FOR THE EQUITABLE FUND AND THE EVENT TEMPLATE, THERE ARE PLACES OF WHAT EVERYONE WILL GET PAID AS FAR AS TALENT. THE MINIMUM IS 150 AN HOUR PER MUSICIAN. IF YOU HAVE A HIGHER GUARANTEE, THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN ALSO SHOW HOW YOU'RE SELLING TICKETS OR SPONSORSHIPS TO HAVE A MUCH BIGGER BUDGET THAN WHAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING AND THAT THE CITY HAS. AND THEN WE HAVE A COLUMN OF SHOWING HOW YOUR SHOP IS SPENDING THE CITY PORTION OF IT. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT'S THE ONLY BUDGET THAT YOU'VE GOT. AND SO THAT EVENT BUDGET TEMPLATE WILL HOPEFULLY EMPOWER PEOPLE TO SEE, OH, THIS IS WHAT I NEED IN ORDER TO DO THIS LEVEL OF EVENT AND THIS WAY. AND SO THEY'LL HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION BEFORE THE APPLICATIONS ARE DUE SO THAT THEY CAN START, THEY CAN PLAN MORE ACCORDINGLY. LIKE IF I GET THIS AWARD AND I SELL 50 TICKETS OR 200 TICKETS, I CAN DO X, Y, AND Z. AND SOME FOLKS MAY SAY, I'M ONLY DOING A $5,000 EVENT BECAUSE I'M NEW TO THIS AND I'M JUST GOING TO USE THIS TO GET STARTED. THAT'S FINE TOO. AND SO WE TRIED TO BUILD IN AS MUCH FLEXIBILITY TO SERVE THE APPLICANT THAT AND WHAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY WANT TO DO. EXCELLENT. COULD YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR, YOU GAVE THE SCENARIO OF SOMEBODY RENTING OUT THE MOHAWK IS A ONE-OFF AND THAT'S SOMETHING PREFERABLE WOULD BE SOMETHING MORE HOLISTIC. CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND? YEAH. LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS MAY, THIS MAY BE LIKE THE ULTIMATE IDEAL THING, BUT MAYBE LIKE A CONCERT FOR THE HOMELESS, YOU KNOW, OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT AN ISSUE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE, I MEAN, THIS IS TEXAS, RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, ANY, ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING ON THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS SOMETHING TO JUST BRING AWARENESS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THE IDEA THAT MUSIC IS NEEDED AND IT'S IMPORTANT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST ME OUT HERE, YOU KNOW, NEEDING TO MAKE MY MONEY BACK ON THE ALBUM BECAUSE I'M IN AN ALBUM CYCLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT, [00:35:01] ERICA, WOULD THAT BE COVERED UNDER THE, LIKE THE ANIMATION THAT, THAT WOULD ENCAPSULATE PIE, YOU WOULD GET EXTRA POINTS ON EVERYTHING ON EVERY METRIC. AND SO YOU WERE NATURALLY RISE TO THE TOP AS A PREFERRED ACTIVITY THAT WE WOULD WANT TO FUND, NOT TO SAY THAT YOU COULDN'T DO THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES AT A VENUE AT RED RIVER AS WELL. YOU WOULD JUST YOU'D GET THREE QUARTERS OF THOSE POINTS BECAUSE IT'S IN DISTRICT NINE. AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE TO THINK OF WAYS TO INSPIRE PEOPLE TO THINK CREATIVELY. AND ALSO IF THEY WANT TO DO DOWNTOWN, THAT'S GREAT. WE WANT TO SEE JUST THE TYPES OF EVENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE THROUGH PI THROUGH PRESERVATION, INNOVATION, ELEVATION, AND THE WHOLE POINT OF WHAT YOU GUYS BROUGHT TO STAFF TO PUT TOGETHER. SO I THINK THAT VENUES ACROSS THE TOWN AND DOWNTOWN WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HOST THESE EVENTS. AND SO IT'S EXCITING TO SEE WHAT WILL COME OF THIS, FOR SURE. I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION. I MEAN, IT'S ALL LOOKING REALLY GOOD. IT'S VERY ROBUST AND THOROUGH, BUT, UH, THE, ABOUT THE 18 YEAR OLD LIMIT, UH, MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT AN ADULT WOULD APPLY, BUT, UH, IS, DOES THAT RESTRICT THE PAYMENTS AS WELL? IN OTHER WORDS, COULD YOU HAVE A 16 YEAR OLD IN YOUR BAND? THAT'S A QUESTION FOR STILL NOVIA. YEAH. THAT'S A PURCHASING QUESTION CAUSE WE'RE CONTRACTING. AND SO YOU HAVE TO BE 18 YEARS OLD IN ORDER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT, BUT CORRECT. AND THIS ACTUALLY CAME UP WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE TIARA GIRLS, LIKE, OR THE OTHER BAND THAT IS UNDER 21 OR UNDER 18, YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THANKS FOR REMINDING US. AND WE WILL ASK. OKAY, THANKS. YEAH. I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT COULD APPLY TO EVENT STAFF TOO. YOU COULD HAVE TEENAGERS WORKING IN, SO YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION GROUND. UH, ERICA, DID YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE FEEDBACK, HOW, HOW THIS CHANGED AFTER THE YOU RECEIVED AND REVIEWED THE FEEDBACK, THE COMMUNITY, THE, OH, THE BEST PART REALLY WAS US MOVING AWAY FROM YOU BEING A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN MEANT ONLY BEING A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN IN THE AUSTIN AREA. THERE ARE IN, THIS WAS AGAIN, A BARRIER THAT WE DIDN'T INTEND UNTIL WE TALKED TO LOTS OF DIFFERENT FOLKS IN DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS WAS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR DECADES THAT CAN'T GET A JOB IN AUSTIN. SO THEY LIVE IS STILL IN THE AUSTIN AREA AND THEY WORK IN HOUSTON OR DALLAS OR WHEREVER IT IS. AND SO WE, THAT'S A PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN. YOU WILL FIT THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS. YOU WILL HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION, YOU WILL LIVE IN THE MSA, YOUR ACTIVITIES HAVE TO TAKE PLACE IN THE ETJ. AND SO THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE PEOPLE AND GIVE THEM THE RESOURCES THAT HAVE HAD TO WORK OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN TO HAVE MONEY, TO ACTUALLY DO THEIR EVENTS HERE AND TO DO NEW COLLABORATIONS. AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS WILL GENERATE NEW INTEREST AND NEW COLLABORATIONS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING IN AUSTIN FOR YEARS AS PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, BUT NEVER WORKING HERE. SO THAT WAS A BIG ONE. IT WAS THE MSA AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS. WE WERE, WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF US NOT SEEING THE FOREST FOR THE TREES AND REALIZING THAT WE WERE PUTTING UP A BARRIER TO SEVERAL GROUPS OF PEOPLE. YEAH. THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT, KIM, CAN YOU THINK OF ANYTHING THAT WAS, I MEAN, THE MAIN THING WAS WHERE YOU LIVE AND WHERE YOU WORK. AND THAT WAS A BIG CHANGE, NOT JUST FOR THIS PROGRAM, BUT FOR THIS NEXT PROGRAM WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS IN OTHER RELIEF AND RECOVERY PROGRAMS WERE CHANGED FROM THE TIME THE PANDEMIC HIT TO NOW A YEAR AND A HALF LATER, WE HAD OUR VERY PRE PANDEMIC THINKING THAT WAS STUCK IN A CERTAIN WAY OF THINKING AT THE BEGINNING. AND THAT HAS EVOLVED QUICKLY WITH A LOT OF DATA, A LOT OF OUTREACH, AND A LOT OF LESSONS LEARNED WITH THE MULTIPLE PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE HAD TO PUT FORTH IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF. UM, AND YOU WENT THROUGH THE DOCUMENTATION AND IT WAS BROKEN DOWN IN TERMS OF THE PRESERVATION AND INNOVATION ELEVATION. SO HOW DOES THAT IMPACT SCORING IF SOMEBODY, UM, YOU KNOW, IS SHOWING THAT THEY'RE DOING OUTREACH TO DIVERSE COMMUNITIES OR THEY, THEIR WEBSITE IS ACCESSIBLE, LIKE ALL THOSE THINGS, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THEIR SCHOOL? SO IN ONE AREA LIKE INNOVATION, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF POINTS. I THINK IT'S UP TO 15 AND THEN ELEVATION COLLABORATION'S UP TO 20. CORRECT. AND SO THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS AND QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK IN THOSE AREAS THAT YOU COULD GET. ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS SCORED AND GET THE POINTS, OR YOU COULD GET ALL OF THEM DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR EVENT IS, WHAT YOU'RE VISIONING AND HOW, AND THEN ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS AS SUCH. SO THERE'S A STACKABLE. SO THAT ANYTIME IT SAYS UP TO 20 POINTS UP TO [00:40:01] THAT'S SEVERAL QUESTIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE ANSWERING AND THEY COULD GET ALL, OR NONE OF THE POINTS, THE ONES THAT ARE JUST 10 POINTS, THAT'S JUST SAYING IT DOESN'T HAVE AN UP TO IT'S A YES OR NO. IF YOU GET THOSE POINTS. AND I WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK TO SOMETHING THAT, THAT ORRIN HAD TOUCHED ON WHEN YOU FIRST PRESENTED THE FRAMEWORK, WHICH IS HOW, HOW ARE, HOW WILL THE EVENTS, THE INDIVIDUAL EVENTS BE EVALUATED, AND THEN HOW WILL THAT ROLE, HOW WILL THE, AND THEN I HAD ALSO BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF, UH, PROGRAM EVALUATION MILESTONES, LIKE A SIX MONTH AND A 12 MONTH. SO IS THAT BAKED IN? YEAH, SO THE CONTRACTS ARE PRETTY INTENSE OF WHAT WE HAVE EXPECTATIONS FOR AS FAR AS DELIVERABLE. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL PRE-CONTRACT MATERIALS THAT WILL NEED TO BE IN PLACE EXCEPT FOR INSURANCE, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND YOU MAY NOT HAVE A LOCATION. AND FOR US WHAT'S DIFFERENT THAN CULTURAL ARTS IS THAT YOU HAVE TO CONFIRM A VENUE OR A CONFIRM A PLACE BEFORE INSURANCE COMES. BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES IT'S COMING FROM THE VENUE AND NOT NECESSARILY A YOU AS AN ARTIST, CARING COMMERCIAL LIABILITY INSURANCE, AS YOU WALK AROUND EVERY DAY, WHICH YOU DON'T. SO WE WILL HAVE PRE-CONTRACT MATERIALS AND WAYS TO GET BENCHMARKS, LIKE GETTING YOUR INSURANCE IN PLACE. ONCE YOUR LOCATIONS CONFIRMED, WE WILL HAVE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANTS, WITH THEIR EVENT, BUDGET TEMPLATE, WHICH IS BASICALLY A WAY TO ADVANCE, HELP YOU ADVANCE YOUR EVENTS. WE ALSO WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL TEMPLATES AROUND PRODUCTION SCHEDULES. AND SO THERE IS ALSO A MARKETING TEMPLATE, BOTH FOR LOCAL AND TOURIST, LIKE TO MARKET, TO BOTH LOCALS AND TOURISTS WITHIN THE SAME MARKETING TEMPLATE. AGAIN, FILLABLE DOES THE MATH FOR YOU, VERY EASY TO USE. SO YOU WILL HAVE APPLICATION ASSISTANCE TO GET ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IN, BUT THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CASE MANAGEMENT AND CONTRACTOR ASSISTANCE FROM OUR TA PROVIDERS TO HELP YOU TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS YOU'RE ADVANCING YOUR EVENTS. SO PRE-CONTRACT MATERIALS GET ALL DONE, GET 50%, AND THEN IT WILL BE REIMBURSABLE FOR YOUR ELIGIBLE EXPENSES. SO YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO AND SPEND IT IN ORDER TO GET REIMBURSED FOR IT. BUT WE'RE HOPING BY THAT POINT, EITHER TICKETS ARE STARTING TO GET SOLD, WHATEVER IS NEEDED TO HELP FRONT THOSE COSTS. IT'S JUST EASIER FROM A MUSIC PERSPECTIVE. CAUSE YOU KIND OF DON'T KNOW YOUR EXPENSES UNTIL THEY HAPPEN LIKE WEEK TO WEEK TO HAVE IT BE REIMBURSABLE AFTER THAT INITIAL 50%. SO THAT IN ITSELF IS KIND OF BENCHMARK RELATED. AND IF WE NOTICE AND KIM KNOWS THIS THROUGH SISEP, IF NOTICING IF SOMETHING IS NOT HAPPENING, WHERE'S THAT INVOICE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING OFF TRACK, THERE'S A PHONE CALL FROM US OR, YOU KNOW, TO HELP THAT CONTRACTOR STAY ON TRACK, THERE WILL BE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FROM A THIRD-PARTY TO HELP WITH THOSE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AROUND ADVANCING THE EVENTS. UM, WELL, THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR. I MEAN, THAT'S A TON OF SUPPORT AND UM, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S SOME GOOD. YEAH. I LIKE TO KEEP THINGS ON TRACK, BUT, UM, SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, LIKE FOR THE, WHEN THE EVENT ITSELF HAPPENS, IS THERE GOING TO BE A WAY TO GO BACK AND SAY LIKE, OKAY, YOU HAD OVER 50% ATTENDANCE OR YOU HIT YOUR BENCHMARKS AND THE CLUB WAS HAPPY OR THEY WOULD BE GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK OR YEAH, IT CANCELED. YOU GOT MOVED, YOU GOT BUMPED. YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO BUILD ALL OF THAT IN TOO. IF YOU, IF THE CLUB MOVES OR IF THE SHOW GETS CANCELED, SOMEONE GETS SICK. THAT IS BUILT INTO THE NATURE OF THESE CONTRACTS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN EVEN EXTEND A CONTRACT IF WE HAVE TO, IN ORDER TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO WAIT FOR THAT EVENT TO PLAY OUT AT ANOTHER VENUE. AND SO WE WILL WORK WITH YOU ON ALL OF THAT TOO, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT YOU JUST DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER EVERYTHING, ESPECIALLY IN THE MUSIC WORLD, WHEN YOU'VE GOT FIVE HOLDS ON A DATE AND YOU DON'T GET THAT DATE OR YOU GET PUSHED OFF. SO, AND IS THAT DATA GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS A COMMISSION WE CAN REVIEW? LIKE, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO CALL OUT LIKE INDIVIDUAL NAMES, BUT YOU MIGHT SAY EVENT X, YOU KNOW, HAPPENED ON THIS STATE AND THIS WAS THE WHOLE SCENARIO AND THIS IS HOW IT PLAYED OUT. THIS IS HOW THE COMMUNITY REACTED, I'LL BE COMPILED SO THAT WE CAN AS A COMMISSION HELP. YES. SO WE'LL HAVE FINAL REPORTS FROM EACH CONTRACTOR ABOUT THEIR SPECIFIC EVENT, NOT ONLY A BUDGET, HOW WAS IT SPENT? WHO DID YOU MARK IT TO EXPLAIN US YOUR MARKETING? HOW DID YOU ATTRACT LOCALS? HOW DID YOU ATTRACT TOURISTS? ALSO, JUST, WE WANT TO SEE YOUR PAID ADVERTISING, YOU KNOW, WHO DID YOU TARGET? AND THERE WILL BE TRAINING TO HELP THEM. THEY DON'T HAVE TO KNOW THIS RIGHT OFF THE BAT. THIS WILL, WE'LL BE WALKING THEM THROUGH THIS TYPE OF BEST PRACTICES FOR SUCCESSFUL EVENTS. AND SO ALL OF THAT WILL BE TIED INTO A FINAL REPORT TEMPLATE THAT EACH CONTRACTOR WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE AT THE END OF THE CONTRACT TO SHOW HOW THE EVENT WENT, HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWED UP, WE WOULD LOVE [00:45:01] TO GET AS MUCH DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION ON THE AUDIENCE AS POSSIBLE. THAT'S KIND OF SELF-REPORTING IS FROM AN AUDIENCE MEMBER PERSPECTIVE. IF YOU'RE SELLING TICKETS, IT'S EASIER TO GET THAT DEMOGRAPHIC INFO. THEN IF YOU'RE TAKING TICKETS OF MONEY AT THE DOOR, OR IF YOU'RE, IT'S A FREE SHOW. AND SO THE AUDIENCE IS WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY OF TRACKING EXACTLY WHO SHOWED UP NIGHT OF SHOW, BUT WE CAN CORRELATE IT SOMEWHAT TO THE MARKETING BUDGET THAT WAS SPENT TO ATTRACT THE AUDIENCES AND ATTRACT TICKET BUYERS, OR JUST ATTRACT PEOPLE, RSVP PEOPLE TO SHOW UP. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO SEE HOW IT GOES. THIS IS THE INAUGURAL YEAR. IT WILL, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN GET. AND THEN AS THE NEXT YEAR COMES AROUND, YOU KNOW, WE IMPROVE, WE CHANGE IF WE HAVE TO, AND WE JUST KEEP BUILDING ON OUR SUCCESS. SO YEAH, I'D LIKE TO KIND OF THROW THAT OUT TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION TO SEE HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT. LIKE IN MY MIND, UM, AT SIX MONTHS WE EITHER AS A FULL COMMISSION OR AS A WORKING GROUP, UM, GO THROUGH SOME OF THAT DATA AND SEE WHAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING, THROW OUT SOME COMMUNITY FEEDBACK JUST GENERALLY, HEY, HOW, HOW DOES THE COMMUNITY, THE MUSIC COMMUNITY FEEL LIKE HOW THIS HAS BEEN WORKING SO FAR, AND THEN WE TWEAK WHAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WORKING AND THEN EVALUATE AGAIN. IT'S I MEAN, I'M NOT, I THINK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE SO MUCH WORK TO PLAN THIS OUT. SO I JUST, THAT IT'S SUCH A FLEDGLING PROGRAM. I JUST WANT TO HELP THERE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A MECHANISM THAT YEAH. LIKE IF SOMETHING'S NOT WORKING HALFWAY THROUGH AND WE'RE LIKE AT A STANDSTILL, FOR SURE, LIKE WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO PIVOT TO MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL? AND IF WE NOTICE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING, WE WILL FOR SURE ALERT YOU GUYS AND LET YOU KNOW THAT WE NEED TO PIVOT SOMETHING FOR A SPECIFIC REASON. SO WE COULD LOOK AT THAT IN THIS INITIAL PILOT PERIOD, JUST CHECK-INS HOW'S IT GOING? AND THEN AT THE END OF THE FIRST CONTRACT PHASE, AS WE GO INTO , WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE HOST OF IDEAS FOR UPDATES AND IMPROVEMENTS OR, YOU KNOW, KEEPING CERTAIN THINGS JUST THE WAY IT IS. AND SO WE'LL JUST, WE'LL DEFINITELY BUILD THAT IN, INTO THE PILOT YEAR. ALL RIGHT. SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THAT'S ODD US AS A COMMISSION, UNLESS ANYBODY DISAGREES. AND I, I'M NOT ASKING FOR A FORMAL VOTE ON THIS PART OF IT. MOST SOMEBODY THINKS THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE APPLICATION PERIOD OPENS AND, AND THE GRANTS ARE GOING OUT, THAT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER TO REQUEST INFORMATION FROM STAFF, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM PLENTY OF LEAD TIME TO COME BACK AND DO YOUR REPORT. AT SIX MONTHS, WE HAVE A WORKING GROUP READY TO GO THROUGH THOSE THINGS AND IN AN EFFICIENT WAY SO THAT WE CAN HELP STAFF. UM, BUT I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY KEY. SO I DON'T KNOW. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, ANY FEELINGS ABOUT HOW ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT HOW THAT SHOULD WORK? YES. I THINK SUNLIGHT IS A REALLY GOOD THING. UH, I WILL, I, I WOULD FIND IT INCREDIBLY GRATIFYING TO SEE ALL OF THE REPORTS OR JUST A QUICK SUMMARY. HERE'S WHAT WE DID THIS QUARTER. THESE ARE THE EVENTS WE HAD. AND ALSO WHILE WE'RE AT IT, WE SHOULD PUT ALL OF THESE EVENTS BEFORE THEY HAPPEN ON THE MUSIC COMMISSION WEBSITE SO THAT WE OURSELVES ARE AWARE. AND FRANKLY I'D WANT TO GO TO JUST ABOUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. YEAH. W WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING SOME MARKETING PARTNERS ON TOP OF THE MARKETING AND TRAINING THAT WILL PROVIDE THE APPLICANTS. THE CITY IS GOING TO DO A PAID INVESTMENT AS WELL IN MARKETING THESE EVENTS WITH VISIT AUSTIN AND THROUGH OTHER PARTNERS. SO THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE LOTS OF ADDITIONAL MARKETING ON TOP OF IS JUST AN ADDITIONAL IN KIND FOR THE APPLICANTS. IT'S JUST ON TOP OF WHAT THEIR AWARDS ARE. UH, LIKE ONE, COUPLE, TWO SMALL QUESTIONS. IT WAS TOO. IT'S LIKE, IT'S REALLY EPIC. IT'S, IT'S ON THE ZOOM. I'M SORRY, ON THE ZOOM. IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL LIKE CRAMMED TO THIS SPACE AND IT'S JUST LIKE, WE'RE ALL THERE AND EVERYTHING, AND HERE IT'S JUST LIKE SO QUIET AND LIKE WE'RE JUST SOCIAL DISTANCE AND EVERYTHING. IT'S, IT'S KIND OF WEIRD. SO I'M, I'M STILL TRYING TO GET MY HEAD OUT OF ZOOM MODE, BUT ERICA, MY QUESTION. SORRY. UM, SO IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THESE FUNDS, YOU HAVE TO BE A VENDOR OF THE CITY. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'LL BE PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. OKAY. AND ARE LIKE, SO TO RECEIVE THE FUNDS, THAT WOULD BE A VENDOR TO YOU. ARE YOU REQUIRED TO, UH, MAYBE WE TOUCHED ON THIS, BUT ARE YOU REQUIRED TO TAKE ON ANY GIG INSURANCE OR, UM, LIKE GIVEN KIND OF LIKE CORPORATE INSURANCE FOR THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING? IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT YOU SHOULDN'T BE CARRYING THAT'S A BARRIER TO CARRY ADDITIONAL INSURANCE THAT IS JUST NOT REQUIRED FOR THESE EVENTS, THE EVENT THAT THE INSURANCE IS REQUIRED AS COMMERCIAL LIABILITY OF THE VENUE OR THE PLACE THAT YOU WERE LEASING OR RENTING FOR THE EVENT, OR YOU WILL HAVE TO CARRY IT. IF IT'S A SPECIAL EVENT IN A PARK AND YOU'RE ADVANCING [00:50:01] THE ENTIRE PRODUCTION SETUP, THEN YES, YOU WILL HAVE TO PURCHASE INSURANCE ON YOUR OWN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. HI, THANK YOU. UM, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UH, AND ALSO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE ON THIS. UM, THIS IS IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LOT AND IT'S REALLY GREAT. UM, SO, UH, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE IF, IF THEY CAN KEEP THEIR OVERHEAD LOW, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO USE THIS MONEY TO PRODUCE IT LIKE AN EVENT SERIES? YEAH. OH, THAT YOU CAN TOTALLY ENVISION THAT IN YOUR APPLICATION. SO SAY YOU WANT $10,000. YOU COULD ENVISION A RESIDENCY THAT GOES FOR TWO MONTHS AND YOU ALREADY HAVE A VENDOR ON A PARTNER ON BOARD AS FAR AS A PROMOTER AT LOCATION. COME, COME TO THE APPLICATION WITH ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND BUILD IT OUT. YEAH. UM, AWESOME. AND THEN, UH, IF, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO A VIRTUAL EVENT, UM, DID YOU, DO YOU GUYS HAVE KIND OF A LIST OF ALLOWABLE EXPENSE EXPENSES FOR THAT? BECAUSE I'M IMAGINING, LIKE IF SOMEBODY HASN'T, IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF LIKE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL GEAR FOR FILMING AND, AND, AND AUDIO AND ALL OF THAT STUFF, MAYBE THEY'RE LIKE, GREAT. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO LIKE, BUY A BUNCH OF GEARS SO THAT I CAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE MAKE HIGH QUALITY VIDEO OR, OR WHATEVER. AND MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD, YEAH. ALL OF THOSE EXPENSES COULD BE USED FOR AN ONLINE EVENT. AND WE ALSO WILL HAVE A PARTNERSHIP IN PLACE WITH PRE PRODUCTION PRODUCT PROVIDERS, NOT ONLY TO MAYBE TURN KEY A ONLINE STREAMED EVENT OR RECORDING EVENT, OR THEY COULD TRAIN YOU TO DO IT. AND SO WE'RE BRINGING ON LIBRARY BEING ONE OF THEM THAT HAS CAPACITY HERE IN SOME OTHER CITY FACILITIES TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR ONLINE PERFORMANCE, PRODUCTION AND STREAMING, OR YOU COULD TAKE PART OF YOUR FUNDS OR HOWEVER YOU'RE PAYING EITHER THE CITY FUNDING FUNDING, OR HOWEVER, WHATEVER SPONSORSHIP YOU MAY HAVE AND GET A CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT FOR YOU. BUT IF YOU WERE TO DO IT YOURSELF, JUST TO, SO YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THINKING LIKE IT IN THE MIND OF THE OPPORTUNITY, OPPORTUNIST LIKE, COOL. LIKE I CAN DO THIS AT MY HOUSE AND I CAN, IF I GET A $10,000 GRANT FOR ONE VIRTUAL PERFORMANCE, THEN I CAN BUY SOME REALLY NICE GEAR FOR MYSELF AND TRY MYSELF. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING, ACTUALLY YOU HAVE ANY MECHANISM IN THE, YEAH. THE CAPITAL EXPENSES AREN'T ALLOWED. SO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GO BUY A CAMERA AND A NEW COMPUTER AND SOFTWARE, AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT A PRORATED USE OF THAT, OF THOSE EQUIPMENTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR EVENT. UM, SO YEAH, BECAUSE THESE ARE CONTRACTS FOR SERVICES AND HOT, IT'S NOT AN ALLOWABLE HOT USE FOR CAPITAL EXPENSES. THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT EXPLICIT. AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS, UM, YOU, YOU GUYS SEEM TO HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD MARKETING RESOURCES IN PLACE. DO YOU, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO MARKET THE, THE PROGRAM ITSELF AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THESE, THESE UNDERREPRESENTED COMMUNITIES GET THE WORD OUT THAT THESE, THAT THIS PROGRAM EVEN EXISTS. SO THERE WILL BE A MARKETING SPEND COMMITMENT ON TOP OF THIS, THAT'S COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER PART OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND THAT WE'VE ALREADY SAVED $50,000 A YEAR TO PROMOTE THE CONTRACTORS PROMOTE THESE EVENTS. IT COULD BE THROUGH VISIT AUSTIN, BUT ALSO COULD BE THROUGH DO 5, 1, 2 AUSTIN CHRONICLE UNIVERSITY OWNED. YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO PAID PLACEMENTS ACROSS THE CITY TO REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE AGAIN, THE AUDIENCE SHOWING UP TO THE EVENT IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AROUND EQUITY AS THE PEOPLE PERFORMING AND THE PEOPLE ORGANIZING THE EVENTS. SO THE CITY WILL DO A SPEND, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR MUSIC, IT'S 50,000 TO DO AN ADDITIONAL SPEND, TO WORK, TO DO WITH EITHER VISIT AUSTIN OR WITH VISIT AUSTIN AND OTHERS. AND THERE COULD BE SOME ADDITIONAL JUST MARKETING PROMOTIONAL PARTNERSHIPS THAT COULD FORM OUT OF THIS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY PAID, BUT THEY'RE PARTNERSHIPS. AND WE CAN ALSO, YOU CAN ALSO, THE APPLICANTS CAN LEVERAGE THOSE, THESE DOLLARS TO GET BETTER MARKETING PARTNERSHIPS ACROSS THE BOARD FROM AN INCOME PERSPECTIVE. SO WE WILL BE DOING IT AS A, WE WON'T BE MARKETING THE PROGRAM AS A CITY PROGRAM, LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM, BUT THERE WILL ALSO BE SPINS THAT ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PROMOTE WHAT THE ARTIST IS PROMOTING, WHAT THE VENUE IS PROMOTING. WE CAN SHARE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE AMPLIFYING THE TYPE OF MESSAGING THAT'S COMING FROM THE EVENT ITSELF. [00:55:04] I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION IF THAT'S OKAY. UM, IS THERE ANY PART OF THE SCORING CRITERIA THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THIS MIGHT BE BAKED INTO THE PIE PIE QUALIFICATIONS, BUT DOES, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE TYPE OF VENUE THAT IS PROPOSED? YEAH. SO THAT'S PART OF THE PI ACTIVITIES OF LOCATION. IF YOU KNOW THAT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ARE, IS YOUR COLLABORATING PROMOTER, 51% BIPAP IS THE VENUE THAT YOU ARE RENTING 51% MORE BIPAP OWNED. THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL POINTS THAT CAN BE HAD WITHIN THE PIE CATEGORIES. AND SO THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT WAYS TO STACK POINTS THROUGHOUT THE SCORING SYSTEM AND WHICH IS OUR INTENT BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE, I D I DIVERSITY WELL WITH THE MIND OF REALLY PRIORITIZING WITH RACE AND OUR FOUR PRIORITY CATEGORIES. SO, UM, YES. SO THERE WILL BE POINTS FOR A WHITE LED ORGANIZATION TO GET POINTS FOR THAT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE SCORING, FOR INSTANCE, FOR A WHITE, A WHITE MUSICIAN OR A WHITE PROMOTER, I GUESS, I GUESS THIS IN ADDITION, I GUESS IT'S KIND OF PART OF THIS QUESTION. UM, OH MAN, I LOST MY THREAD. UM, I'LL COME BACK TO YOU. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ERICA FOR THE APPLICATIONS. SO WE'LL, LET'S GET THROUGH TO THIS ONE AND THEN THE THIRD PARTY AND I'LL EXPLAIN TIMELINE CAUSE THEY'RE CONNECTED AND IT WILL BE VERY SOON THE GOAL IS THIS FALL. AND SO, BUT IT'LL MAKE MORE SENSE ONCE WE'RE FINISHED WITH THESE, I DID HAVE JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION THEN I'LL LET YOU IN YOUR CHAIR, BUT SO I MEAN, EVERYTHING YOU'RE PROPOSING, THAT SOUNDS AMAZING. IT'S SO MUCH SUPPORT REVIEW, UM, MARKETING, ALL OF THAT. IS THAT LIKE, ARE YOU GUYS HANDLING, LIKE IT WAS ALL THAT STAYING IN EDD? ARE YOU ADDING STAFF OR, I MEAN, I'M JUST CURIOUS, CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE A TON OF WORK. YEAH. SO THE APPLICATION, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WITH A THIRD PARTY OF WHAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET A THIRD PARTY TO DO FOR US AND WHAT IN-HOUSE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO BECAUSE OF THE CITY CONTRACTING PERSPECTIVE OF THE HOT FUNDS. AND SO WE'LL GET TO THAT WHEN WE DISCUSS THE THIRD PARTY SLIDES. AND SO NEOVIA HAS SOME THOUGHTS THERE SUPPORT FOR US TOO. SO AS I LOOK AT HER, HI, I'M JUST, I SHOULD HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION. PROBABLY HER COMMISSION READING BALCO TOO, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS AROUND THE FIVE TO 10 FEE AMOUNT? IS IT JUST OPTIMIZING REACH OR HOW DID YOU APPROACH THAT NUMBER THOUGH? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T. HOW DID YOU APPROACH THE FIVE TO 10 K GRANT NUMBER? I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE THOUGHT PROCESS ROLE IS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE $2.3 BILLION WHEN WE FIRST THOUGHT THAT PRE PANDEMIC. AND WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THIS, WE WERE THINKING UP TO $50,000 FOR BIG FESTIVAL EVENTS AND LARGE, BIG SCOPE EVENTS THAT WHERE THE ELIGIBILITY WOULD BE EXPANDED BEYOND JUST INDIVIDUALS, BUT BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND THE CRUSHING BLOW TO HOT TAX REVENUE INTAKE, WE'RE GOING TO START SMALL BECAUSE WE ARE FOCUSING ON MUSICIANS AND INDEPENDENT, SMALL, INDEPENDENT PROMOTERS, AND FIVE TO $10,000 SEEMED LIKE A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR AN INDIVIDUAL OR ONE BAND TO USE FOR AN EVENT OR A SERIES OF EVENTS. IT'S STILL A GOOD CHUNK OF CHANGE. YEAH. YEAH. I AGREE. I'M IN FOR THE TIMES. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. I THINK EVENTUALLY IT WOULD, IT WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BROADER THAN THAT, DEPENDING ON WHAT PEOPLE MAKE OUT OF THAT. YEAH. CAUSE YOU CAN SELL TICKETS. THERE ARE OTHER, AND WE WILL HELP, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THIS IS A PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT EXERCISE AS WELL AS AN AWARDING OF A CONTRACT. WE WILL SHOW PEOPLE HOW, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SELL THIS MANY TICKETS OR HAVE YOU THOUGHT OF SPONSORSHIPS TO HELP OFFSET ADDITIONAL COSTS SO YOU CAN HAVE A BIGGER EVENT. THANK YOU. AND JUST DECLARE BY AN INSURANCE THING THAT SCOTT WAS ASKING ABOUT ANY LICENSED VENUE IN TOWN IS ALREADY REQUIRED BY LAW TO HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE AND LOOK SO THAT THAT WEIGHT WOULD NOT BE ON THE MUSICIAN ONLY IF THEY'RE ON AN UNLICENSED VENUE WITHIN INSURANCE. YES, EXACTLY. OR IF IT'S A VENUE THAT HAS A DIFFERENT USE AND YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH IT LIKE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, THEN THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT INSURANCE WISE. BUT WE HAVE THE AUSTIN CENTER FOR EVENTS ON STANDBY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THERE. AND THEY HAVE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN KEEPING THEM UP TO DATE, JUST TALKED TO THEM TODAY ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION HAVING TONIGHT. AND THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HELPING PEOPLE OUT WHEN THEY, IF THEY NEEDED A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. COOL. THANKS. [01:00:04] THIS MIGHT BE A PART OF THE TIME I DISCUSSION, BUT I'M JUST, I'M CURIOUS, KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON OUR FAN CHARLOTTE'S QUESTION, BUT JUST HOW, UM, HOW THAT SUPPORT IS GOING TO WORK. YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW FOLKS ARE GOING TO GET THE PRE, YOU KNOW, CONTRACT SOMEONE THAT'S NEVER FILLED OUT A, A CONTRACT LIKE THIS IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF STARTED OUT KIND OF SEEMING LIKE IT WAS GOING TO BE A LITTLE EASY, BUT NOW THAT I SEE ALL THE, ALL THE THINGS THAT GO INTO IT, I THINK IT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE. IT'S FAIRLY EXTENSIVE. SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE ON THE FRONT END FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S A NEW APPLICANT? LIKE HOW ARE YOU, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET SUPPORT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO THE, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THAT THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM JUST LAUNCHED THROUGH EDD. AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO PROMOTE THIS PROGRAM TO YOU. THERE ARE $50,000 GRANTS FOR ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP APPLICANTS WITH ALL KINDS OF RELIEF AND RECOVERY OR FUNDING PROGRAMS FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN. SO WE WILL SHARE ALL THAT INFORMATION THAT THE APPLICATION JUST OPENED. SO IF YOU KNOW OF ANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT COULD DO THIS TYPE OF WORK OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. THERE ARE $50,000 GRANTS AWARDS FOR CONTRACTS TO ASSIST APPLICANTS FOR PARTICULAR PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S THE ROUTE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE. SO I WANTED, THAT WAS GOING TO BE PART OF WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO YOU GUYS IS TO PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM TO ORGANIZATIONS IN AUSTIN THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING THIS TYPE OF TECHNICAL SPORT SUPPORT TO APPLICANTS. AND THIS COULD BE IN MUSIC, ARTS, HERITAGE PRESERVATION. IT COULD BE IN JUST DEALING WITH FEDERAL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO REALLY HELP YOU WITH YOUR SHUTTERED VENUE OPERATOR GRANT. AND SO THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF NAVIGATORS WILL BE BROUGHT ON BOARD THROUGH THIS $500,000 BUDGET THAT WAS PROVIDED THROUGH ARPA TO GET THE SUPPORT IN PLACE TO HELP ANY APPLICANT OF ANY CITY PROGRAM OR FEDERAL PROGRAM OR STATE PROGRAM. SO THEY'RE GOING TO GET TRAINING AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO HELP, OR, YEAH, YEAH. THERE'S A SCOPE OF WORK AND A TEMPLATE AND A WAY THAT THEY WORK THROUGH HELPING EACH INDIVIDUAL APPLICANT, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL USING THE SAME SYSTEM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN PORTAL APPLICATION SYSTEM, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT SHORTLY AFTER THIS NEXT PRESENTATION. SO THEY WILL, IT'LL BE KIND OF A TURNKEY, NOT ONLY FOR THE THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATOR, BUT FOR ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS TO LOG INTO ANY PROGRAM, ANY APPLICANTS MATERIALS TO SEE WHAT IS NEEDED, SEE WHERE THE HELP IS NEEDED TO DO THAT REAL CASE MANAGEMENT AND ONE-ON-ONE ASSISTANCE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARITY ON SOMETHING, HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMENTS ABOUT VENUES, ALTERNATIVE VENUES, SPECIAL EVENTS, INSURANCE, ET CETERA. WELL, THERE'LL BE, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES YOU WANT TO BE IN A PARK, ET CETERA, FOR VARIOUS REASONS WILL, WILL, WILL THERE BE ENCOURAGEMENT FOR APPLICANTS TO UTILIZE VENUES SINCE THEY ARE REQUIRED BY LAW? OKAY. AND WILL THAT BE A PART OF, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY COMMUNICATING AND EDUCATING THAT THIS IS A BENEFIT AND IT WILL ALSO BENEFIT VENUES, OBVIOUSLY THAT ALREADY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PROVIDE A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT AND THE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED TO CREATE A WELL-PRODUCED AND ALSO SAFE. YEAH, THIS IS IT'S A TURNKEY SOLUTION WHEN YOU DO A VENUE RENTAL FOR EVERYTHING YOU WOULD NEED. AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EVENT PRODUCTION TEMPLATE OR THE EVENT BUDGET TEMPLATE, IT BREAKS IT ALL OUT INDIVIDUALLY, IT SAYS, OR IN PARENTHESES OR PART OF A VENUE RENTAL. SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE THINGS THAT GO INTO IT, THAT 10 OF THOSE THINGS COULD BE COVERED IN A VENUE RENTAL AGREEMENTS, INCLUDING INSURANCE. AND SO YES, THAT IT WILL BE PART OF THE TA AND, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE. AND I WOULD THINK IT'D PROBABLY BE RELATIVELY FEW FOLKS WHO'D WANT TO USE A PARK OR ANY OF THESE THINGS. CAUSE THEY'RE SO MUCH MORE, YOU KNOW, TO ADVANCE IN ORDER TO GET THE PRODUCTION DONE. AND THE EVENT DONE SAFELY. AND TO ME, THAT IS AN ADVANCE KIND OF SITUATION, WHICH IS WHERE, WHEN WE ENVISIONED LIKE THE BIGGER GRANTS AT $50,000, THAT'S WHERE THAT COULD COME IN, YOU KNOW, TO REALLY HAVE A MORE IMPACTFUL, LARGE EVENT WHERE YOU WOULD NEED TO BRING EVERYTHING IN. AND INSTEAD OF HAVING A TURNKEY SOLUTION, LIKE A VENUE. SO WE TALK ABOUT THAT JUST AS IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAY NO. IF YOU WANT TO USE A PARK, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAY NO, THERE'S GOING TO BE SUPPORT. IF YOU NEED A SPECIAL EVENT, OF COURSE THERE'S SUPPORT, EASIEST THING IS TO DO WITH ANY RENTAL, BUT WE WANT TO SEE VENUES ACROSS TOWN, YOU KNOW, ALL OVER THE CITY SO THAT WE ARE SEEING LIVE MUSIC IN NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS, ACROSS THE CITY. [01:05:01] AND THAT'S PARTLY WHY I'M ASKING BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS TO SOME OF US, BUT NOT SO MUCH TO PEOPLE THAT REFLECT BACK ON THE GREAT PARK THEY WENT TO AND THE FESTIVAL THEY WENT TO, BUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYONE THAT'S ACTUALLY EVER PRODUCED ONE OR DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE INSIDE SECRETS, JUST ASK SO-AND-SO PRODUCTION COMPANY ABOUT TOILETS IT'S AND THEN YOU FIND OUT I HAVE A SEPARATE TEMPLATE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS LIKE THAT, AND IT WILL SCARE ANYONE AWAY. SO WE HAVE A LIST OF LIKE A LIBRARY OF TEMPLATES OF LIKE, IF IT'S THIS EVENT HERE, IF IT'S THIS EVENT HERE, THE EVENT TEMPLATE FOR THIS GRANT IS STANDARDIZED, BUT WE HAVE OTHER THINGS TO SHOW ALL THE THINGS THAT WOULD GO INTO BRINGING EVERYTHING IN YOURSELF. AND IT'S A LOT. SO YEAH, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE EDUCATION PROCESS. I HAVE A QUESTION UNRELATED. OOPS, SORRY, SHOCKER. UM, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. UH, PATRICE, UH, IN TERMS OF PARKS, IF I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT PERSPECTIVE, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT A LARGE EVENT THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRED AND EVERYTHING IS, IS, IS GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY PROHIBITIVE. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO DO A SMALL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN 50 PEOPLE SERIES IN A PARK, UM, JUST TO, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY RIGHT NOW WITH THE PANDEMIC. A LOT OF PEOPLE, MYSELF INCLUDED ARE TRYING TO DO MORE OUTDOOR SPACES, UM, IS, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE PROCESS OF MAKING THINGS HAPPEN IN, IN PARKS. UM, AND, UH, THE WHAT'S REQUIRED OF THAT. IF IT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE SAID, SAY YOU WANTED TO DO SOMETHING TOTALLY ACOUSTIC WITH A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE AND MAKE IT A SERIES, UM, IN A PARK, LIKE WHAT WOULD YOU HELP THE PEOPLE WITH WHATEVER PERMITTING PROCESS WOULD BE REQUIRED? YEAH. SO ACTUALLY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS THEIR OWN SPECIAL EVENTS TEAM OUTSIDE OF THE AUSTIN CENTER FOR EVENTS. SO IT'S A SEPARATE PARKS FOCUS, ACE AUSTIN CENTER, IT'S THEIR CENTER FOR EVENTS. SO THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN PARKS THAT THEY RENT OUT FOR THESE PURPOSES, DEPENDING ON THE USE. SO IT WOULD BE, WE WOULD REFER THEM TO EITHER ACE OR WE REFER THEM TO THE PARKS EVENTS STAFF TO GO AND HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT WOULD GO INTO THOSE EVENTS, WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. THOSE ARE BUILT INTO THOSE PERMITTING SYSTEMS WITH THEIR OWN APPLICATION. SO WE COULD HAVE THE MONEY TO HELP PAY FOR THE EVENT TO HELP PAY FOR THE PERMIT, BUT THEN THEY COULD GO HELP YOU WITH ALL THE INS AND OUTS FOR THAT PARTICULAR EVENT, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY CHOSE TO DO. YEAH, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, LIKE THERE ARE CERTAIN SPACES THAT ARE REALLY UNDER UTILIZED IN THE CITY, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, UM, THE, UH, THE KATHERINE LAMPKIN PAVILION AND, UH, ROSEWOOD PARK IS A REALLY, REALLY LOVELY SPACE, UM, AND COULD BE USED FOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PRETTY BIG SPACE AND IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY IN THAT AREA. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, IN THAT AREA OF TOWN, ESPECIALLY FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY. AND SO I CAN IMAGINE LIKE, PLACES LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE WANTED TO DO THINGS IN PLACES LIKE THAT WHILE IT'S SAFER TO DO THINGS OUTDOORS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT COULD W WE'RE PREPARING LIKE ONE DOCUMENT THAT WILL HAVE A LIST OF CITY RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO APPLICANTS TO CONSIDER LIKE A, THE PARKS OFFICE, A LIST OF PARKS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR RENT, A LIST OF CULTURAL FACILITIES AVAILABLE FOR RENT LIBRARY. SO WE'LL GIVE YOU, UM, POINTS OF CONTACT TO EVERY SINGLE CITY DEPARTMENT THAT COULD HELP SOMEONE DO AN EVENT. AND SO THAT WILL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST PART OF THE RESOURCES THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO FOLKS AS AN OPTION FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR WELL WHITE'S IN LAUREN. I THINK THAT'S VERY TRUE. THERE'S $2 MILLION, THERE'S $10,000 PER EVENT. THAT MEANS THERE'S GOING TO BE 200 EVENTS BY THE END OF THE CYCLE. WE SHOULD HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK. WE SHOULD HAVE BEST PRACTICES. AND FOR EXAMPLE, WE SHOULD KNOW WHICH PARKS WORK AND WHICH PARKS DON'T WORK FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE MISTAKES EARLY ON, BUT I THINK BY THE END, AFTER WE'VE HAD 200 OF THESE EVENTS, WE SHOULD BE INGRAINED. YEAH. THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN GIVEN THE HEADS UP TO BOTH PARKS AND ACE AND ANY AT THE LIBRARY AND PUBLIC AUSTIN OF THE INTAKE THAT COULD COME IN FROM THE, FROM CONTRACTORS. AND SO WE ARE PREPPING THEM. SO THAT THERE'LL BE READY. JUST, JUST AS ONE [01:10:01] NOTE, I TALK, I SEE, LIKE LEANING OVER TO THE GUY, LIKE MOVING FORWARD AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, OKAY, SORRY. ANYWAY, UM, I, I WOULD KINDA LIKE TO CAUTION OR, OR, OR AT LEAST, UM, BRING AWARENESS TO THE FACT THAT, UM, IT COULD, WHAT THIS COULD DO, WHAT THIS, WHAT THIS FUND, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND HAS THE ABILITY TO DO IS, IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY, REALLY GREAT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IT ALSO, UM, HAS THE ABILITY TO KIND OF, UM, TO SQUEEZE THE LOCAL COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE, IF AN ARTIST FOR LOCAL ARTISTS WANTS TO BOOK A SHOW AT A, AT A, YOU KNOW, PREMIER VENUE OR A DECENT VENUE, UM, ON A CERTAIN PREMIERE DATE OR WHATEVER, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S ALREADY RESERVED THE ROOM FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD, UM, IT HAS THE ABILITY TO BECOME SOMETHING THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A DETRACTOR FOR LOCAL MUSICIANS THAT ARE DOING LIVE SHOWS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST BLACK FRET, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THESE BLACKOUT DATES FOR ALL THESE OTHER NEWS ANYWAY. UM, SO IT'S JUST, UM, NOT A POINT OF MOTION OR ANYTHING. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEHOW WE'RE BEING MINDFUL OF THAT, IF THERE'S SOME KIND OF WAY TO, UM, I DON'T KNOW, PUT SOME KIND OF NOMENCLATURE IN THE, UM, IN THESE AGREEMENTS OR SOMETHING, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THE LOCAL COMMUNITY BY GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE VISIBLE ON DAYS THAT ARE VISIBLE, YOU KNOW, BE GOOD. SO ANYMORE COMMENTS. YEAH. UM, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, CODY SAID EARLIER THIS HISTORIC, UM, FIND, AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS IS A STORY DECISION THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH. UM, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE, UM, THE CHANGE THAT'S COMING TO THE CITY. I THINK IT'S GONNA REALLY, UM, SPIT MY OPINION FROM THE BEGINNING. IT'S I THINK A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH JUST THE FACT THAT I WAS SO INVOLVED IN IT. IT'S ALL CENTRAL IN THE CREATION OF THIS RECOMMENDATION, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT GET THIS OPPORTUNITY OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS, I THINK ARE GOING TO BE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A HANDFUL OF THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO REALLY CHANGE THE ENTIRE CULTURE OF AUSTIN. THAT'S JUST MY BELIEF. UM, SO I'M, UH, VERY THANKFUL THAT WE SAW THROUGH THE, THIS MOMENT. UM, WE STILL GOT A LITTLE WAYS TO GO, BUT, UM, I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY IN THE CITY. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO THE AUSTIN MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF. ALL RIGHT. AND SO, UH, AWESOME MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF FUND 3.0. SO AS YOU KNOW, THROUGH JULY AND AUGUST AND THE BUDGETING PROCESS, THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE DISCUSSION AROUND HOW TO ALLOCATE TO MUSIC AND ARTS FOR THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. AND SO AFTER LOTS OF BACK AND FORTH, WE WERE PROVIDED $4 MILLION FOR MUSIC TO LOOK AT HOW WE WOULD SPEND THE AWESOME MUSIC DESIGN, HOW TO SPEND THAT OPERA FUND FOR MUSIC. AND ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS, IT WAS BASICALLY STAFF WAS ON THE EXACT SAME PAGE AS THE MUSIC COMMISSION AROUND IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY RELIEF FOR MUSICIANS AND MUSIC WORKERS HERE IN AUSTIN. AND SO YOU GUYS ONLY CAME UP WITH THIS ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, AND WE HAVE THE FINAL GUIDELINES TO PRESENT TO YOU TO SEE FOR ANY FINAL FEEDBACK. SO KEEP IN MIND, AND WE'LL GET INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT THAT WE, SINCE WE MET WITH A COUPLE OF THE COMMISSIONERS, WE'VE GOTTEN MORE DIRECTION FROM THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT AROUND ARPA AND REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FUNDING, BOTH IN TERMS OF REPORTING AND ELIGIBLE USES OF FUNDS AND THE OUTCOMES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SEE. SO UNLIKE CARES, WHICH WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE FREEWHEELING, ARPA IS VERY SPECIFIC GOALS AND OUTCOMES THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND SPECIFIC WAYS TO DO IT. SO LUCKILY AUSTIN MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF FUND, WHAT WE WERE ALREADY KIND OF ENVISIONING FIT WITHIN THE ARPA FRAMEWORK FOR WHAT THE TREASURY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO, AND YOU'LL SEE KIND OF HOW THE LANGUAGE IS TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT AND WHY, BUT ALSO MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND THREE FOCUSES ON EQUITABLE RECOVERY THROUGH IMMEDIATE ECONOMIC STABILIZATION FOR HOUSEHOLDS THROUGH ONE-TIME EMERGENCY RELIEF GRANTS, AWARDED TO ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS THROUGH A SCORING PROCESS, PRIORITIZING EQUITY, VULNERABILITY, AND LONG TIME AUSTIN AREA RESIDENTS. SO THAT'S BOTH ARPA AND YOU GUYS KIND OF MIXED INTO A COUPLE SENTENCES THERE. NEXT [01:15:01] SLIDE. SO OBJECTIVES AND ELIGIBLE USES. I TALKED ABOUT THE KEY OBJECTIVES OF THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT. SO THESE ARE ALL OF THE KEY OBJECTIVES OF ARPA. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE THIRD BULLET, THE ONE THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON IS SUPPORT AND EQUITABLE RECOVERY THROUGH IMMEDIATE ECONOMIC STABILIZATION FOR HOUSEHOLDS AND BUSINESSES, AND THEN AN ELIGIBLE USE WITHIN THAT KEY OBJECTIVE CATEGORY IS RESPONDING TO NEGATIVE ECONOMIC IMPACTS, WHICH IS ASSISTANCE TO HOUSEHOLDS, WHICH IS THAT EMERGENCY OF RELIEF AND RESTRICTED GRANT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BEFORE ABOUT DOING A 1000 AND $2,000 GRANT, BUT AS FAR AS THE FEDS ARE CONCERNED, THIS IS ABOUT FOCUSING ON EMERGENCY RELIEF. AND SO WHY WOULD YOU DO 1000 FOR ONE GROUP IN 2000 FOR ANOTHER GROUP, THEY WANT TO SEE THE BEST SUPPORT GIVEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT THE MOST. SO WE HAVE DECIDED TO STICK WITH $2,000 GRANTS FOR A $2.3 MILLION BUDGET. AGAIN, IT'S 2.5, BUT WE RESERVE SOME FOR A THIRD PARTY. SO THAT'S 1,150 INDIVIDUAL EMERGENCY RELIEF GRANTS OF $2,000. AGAIN, JUST READ THIS LINE BEFORE PREVIOUSLY. AND SO THIS WILL BE $2,000 THAT WILL PRIORITIZE EQUITY VULNERABLY, AND LONG-TERM AUSTIN AREA RESIDENTS UNTIL THE BUDGET IS DEPLETED. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THESE ARE DEFINITIONS YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, BOTH FOR PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN AND INDEPENDENT PROMOTER FOR OUR PREVIOUS PROGRAM. THERE'S A THIRD CATEGORY FOR THIS PROGRAM, AND THAT WAS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CREATIVE WORKER RELIEF GRANT THAT LAUNCHED LAST YEAR. SO THIS IS ANY CREATIVE WORKER WITHIN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY WHOSE CURRENT OR PRIMARY OCCUPATION HAS BEEN WITHIN MUSIC, MUSIC, COMPOSITION, MUSIC INDUSTRY SECTOR FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS, INCLUDES CREATIVE WORKERS WORKING IN THIS SECTOR, INCLUDING STAFF AND ASSOCIATED PERSONNEL WORKING IN VENUES AND ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THE SECTOR. AND SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, THOSE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS ARE THAT THOSE THREE CATEGORIES, AGAIN, HAVE TO LIVE IN THE MSA ONLY ONE APPLICATION FOR INDIVIDUAL YOU'RE STILL ELIGIBLE FOR A LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM AWARD, BECAUSE THESE ARE SEPARATE FUNDS, SEPARATE USES, AND YOU MUST BE AT LEAST 18 YEARS OLD TO APPLY. AND AGAIN, CITY OF AUSTIN EMPLOYEES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE. NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE SAME ELIGIBILITY DOCUMENTATION AS LIVE MUSIC FUND EVENT PROGRAM. AND AGAIN, WHICH IS LEADING US TO A THIRD PARTY DISCUSSION. AND YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY, AGAIN, SAME INFORMATION AS BEFORE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS NEW. THIS IS THE SCORING CRITERIA FOR AWESOME MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF FUND, AND ANY CATEGORY WITH AN ASTERIX IS BASED ON THE ARPA PRIORITY CRITERIA. AND SO WE'VE GOT TO WRAP THIS INTO THE SCORING. SO IT DID SHIFT THE SCORING A LITTLE BIT SINCE SAY, GRAHAM, SINCE YOU SAW IT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MORE COMMISSIONERS NEXT DAY, WE HAD GOTTEN THIS INFORMATION AND WE UPDATED IT. SO AGAIN, LIKE WITH THE LIGHT MUSIC FUND EVENT, LEADING WITH EQUITY, WITH RACIAL EQUITY, LEADING, PRIORITIZING LBGTQ WOMEN, IDENTIFYING AND DISABILITY COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY APPLICANTS THAT WILL STACK AGAIN THAT UP TO MEANS THAT WE CAN STACK POINTS. IF YOU'RE ALL THREE OF THOSE THINGS, APPLICANT HOME ADDRESS LOCATED IN A QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACT, THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC REQUIRED ALLOWANCE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, SO THAT IF YOU LIVE IN THAT THEY WANT TO PRIORITIZE IF YOU LIVE IN THAT TRACK OR IF YOU HAVE A CERTAIN SALARY LEVEL. SO THAT'S 20 POINTS. SO IF YOU PREVIOUSLY DIDN'T RECEIVE AN AUSTIN MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF FUND, OR A CREATIVE WORKER GRANT 10 POINTS, IF YOU DIDN'T RECEIVE THAT LAST YEAR, NUMBER OF YEARS PRESIDING IN MSA UP TO 20 POINTS. AND SO THAT'S BASED ON HOW MANY YEARS, AND THAT'S COMING FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, AVERAGE ANNUAL HOUSEHOLD EARNING WAGES AND AFTER TAXES FOR 20 AND 2021 UP TO 20 POINTS. AGAIN, ARPA REQUIREMENT. THEY WANT TO PRIORITIZE PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN THE 60% MEDIAN SALARY OF THE, OF THE MSA. AND SO FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR, THAT'S ABOUT $58,000. AND SO THE SCORING POINTS WILL BE $58,000 AND BELOW FOR THAT SALARY. IF YOU'D MAKE MORE THAN THAT, YOU JUST DON'T GET THESE POINTS, BUT YOU COULD GET THE OTHER POINTS. AGAIN, ACCORDING TO THE FEDS, WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THOSE GROUPS, PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN A QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACK, AND THAT MAKES 60% OF THE MEDIAN WAGE IN THE MSA. SO ANOTHER LIST OF POINTS APPLICANT HAS NOT RETURNED TO PRE PANDEMIC ANNUAL HOUSEHOLD EARNINGS WAGES [01:20:01] SINCE MARCH, 2022. AND LAUREN, THIS WAS KIND OF GOING BACK TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED, THAT YOU COULD'VE GOTTEN ANOTHER JOB. IT MAY NOT BE MUSIC, BUT YOU'RE STILL, WE WANT TO SEE, HAVE YOU NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAKE UP ANY OF THAT SALARY OR ANY OF THOSE LOST WAGES? AND SO WE'LL GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL POINTS, CAUSE IT COULD BE THAT IT'S JUST AS TOUGH TO GO AND PIVOT A WHOLE NEW CAREER DURING A PANDEMIC LIMITED ACCESS TO PPE PREVENTING APPLICANT FROM TAKING JOBS IN THE AUSTIN MUSIC INDUSTRY, EITHER THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT, OR THEY DON'T HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH WHATEVER LOCATIONS THAT WILL PROVIDE IT OR THEY, THEY ARE IMMUNE COMPROMISED AND JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE UNLESS THEY KNOW THAT EVERYONE IN, AT THE SHOW, IT HAS A MASK ON AND ACCESS TO PPE. AND SO THAT COULD DISSUADE LOTS OF PEOPLE FROM JUST NOT PLAYING. SO THAT'S FIVE POINTS AND THEN THERE ARE UP TO 24 POINTS FOR COVID-19 IMPACTS. AND SO THIS IS A LIST WE KIND OF SHIFTED THE LIST FROM WHAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION HAD DISCUSSED TO ALIGN WITH PREVIOUS PROGRAMS. IT'S THE SAME THING, JUST DIFFERENT WORDS. BUT BY USING THESE WORDS, WE CAN COLLECT DATA WITH THIS PROGRAM, ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER PROGRAMS ABOUT COVID IMPACTS ACROSS THE BOARD, ACROSS ALL APPLICANTS. SO YOU GET UP TO 24 POINTS ON ALL OF, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON IF YOU MARK, ONE OF THESE ARE ALL, ALL OF THESE. SO INCREASED COSTS OF HOUSEHOLD CREASE COSTS OF DOING BUSINESS AND ABILITY TO MAKE RENT OR MORTGAGE PAYMENTS, CANCELLATION OF EVENTS, PAY SALARY CUTS OR TERMINATION OF STAFFING, CONTRACTORS, DISCRIMINATION, LOSSES DUE TO UNFUNDED REFUNDED DEPOSITS LEASES AND OTHER DOWN PAYMENTS. SO THAT'S UP TO 24 POINTS. SO AGAIN, THIS IS A GOOD COMBINATION OF WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REQUIRES FOR ARPA-E AND WHAT YOU GUYS WANTED TO SEE HAPPEN IN TERMS OF PRIORITIZING APPLICANTS. AND SO THEY STACK UP TO HOPEFULLY GET A QUEUE OF THE MOST VULNERABLE MUSICIANS THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING THE LONGEST IN THE AUSTIN AREA TO BE FIRST IN LINE FOR THESE $2,000 GRANTS. NEXT SLIDE, THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATORS. I'M GOING TO LOOK AT SYNOVIA TO HELP ME WITH THIS. SO WHY DID WE DECIDE ON POTENTIALLY A SINGLE THIRD-PARTY FOR BOTH THE PROGRAMS WE JUST DISCUSSED? BECAUSE THE APPLICANTS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CREATE A TURNKEY SOLUTION FOR ALL APPLICANTS TO GET TO APPLY FOR BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS IN THE SIMPLEST WAY POSSIBLE. AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS AND FINALIZING GUIDELINES, WE'RE REALIZING TO SILO THESE TWO PROGRAMS WHERE APPLICANTS HAD TO GO GIVE YOU EXACT SAME INFORMATION TO THIRD PARTIES. YOU KNOW, TWO SEPARATE SYSTEMS JUST DID NOT MAKE SENSE, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CITY OF AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS NOW UTILIZING A IN-HOUSE PORTAL APPLICATION SYSTEM THAT WE'RE BUILDING RIGHT NOW THAT IS CONNECTED TO THE VENDOR REGISTRATION SYSTEM. YAY. JUST TRUST ME. THAT'S AWESOME. AND CONNECT IT TO OUR CRM. SO YOU WILL ONLY HAVE TO PUT YOUR INFORMATION IN ONCE FOR MOST OF THIS STUFF. AND IT FILLS IN FOR YOU ONCE YOU PUT IN YOUR VENDOR REGISTRATION NUMBER, IF YOU, SO THIS COULD BE THE FIRST TIME PEOPLE GET ALL THEIR INFORMATION IN THE SYSTEM, BUT THEN THE SUBSEQUENT PROGRAMS AFTER THIS, IT'S GOING TO BE TURNKEY. AND IT JUST FILLS IN ALL THE DATA FOR YOU. SO SINGLE PORTAL APPLICATION PROCESS LEADS TO A TURNKEY SCORING SYSTEM, NO PEER PANELS NECESSARY BECAUSE OF THE TURNKEY SCORING SYSTEM. SO THEREFORE A SINGLE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR BOTH PROGRAMS IS KEY. IT COULD BE LESS EXPENSIVE IN THE LONG RUN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE HAVE BUDGETED $200,000 OF THE 2.5 OF EACH PROGRAM. I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE TO SPEND TO THAT LEVEL DEPENDING ON WHAT WE SEE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE OURSELVES SOME, SOME BREATHING ROOM. SO HOW DO WE GET THERE? AND THIS IS WHAT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND WORKING GROUP MOST REQUESTED IS A TRANSPARENT PROCESS FOR ESTABLISHING THE VERY BEST THIRD PARTY FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. WELL, LET'S HAVE A VERY FORMAL SOLICITATIONS, VERY TRANSPARENT FOR BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS. WE'RE WORKING ON THE SCOPE OF WORK RIGHT NOW. SO THIS WILL BE A FORMAL PUBLIC SOLICITATION FOR THIS WORK FOR BOTH PROGRAMS FOR QUALIFIED THIRD PARTIES TO APPLY FOR. WE ARE FINISHING UP THE SCOPE. NOW WE ASSUME WE'LL GET IT OUT ON THE STREETS IN THE NEXT LIKE TWO, THREE WEEKS, AND THEN IT WILL BE OPEN FOR TWO WEEKS. AND SO WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY DONE SOME PRELIMINARY OUTREACH, YOU KNOW, JUST GENERALLY TO KIND OF GAUGE THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE NEEDED TO GO. AND IT IS SO, UM, SO WE, AGAIN LIKE THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM, WE WOULD [01:25:01] LIKE FOR ALL OF YOU TO SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THIS COMING SOLICITATION AND THE EDD WILL PROVIDE PURCHASING AND THE CITY, ALL THE INFORMATION TO THAT THEY NEED FOR THE PROCUREMENT, BUT WE WILL NOT BE THE EVALUATORS ON THE, ON THE FINAL VENDOR THAT WILL COME FROM A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT THAT IS VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO. SO THAT SAYS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. AND THERE IS NO SEMBLANCE OF ANY KIND OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST OF ANY SORT. SO FOR ONE THIRD PARTY, PRETTY MUCH, THEY'RE GONNA, IT'S GOING TO BE THE ONE PORTAL SYSTEM, ELIGIBILITY DOCUMENTATION, THE SAME FOR BOTH PROGRAMS. THEY ANSWER HALF THE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICATION. AND THEN THEY BRANCH OFF TO THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR EACH PROGRAM BASED ON THE GUIDELINES I JUST WENT THROUGH. SO FOR THE, FOR A SINGLE QUALIFIED THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND, AND I ALREADY SAID THAT TO CREATE A MORE USER-FRIENDLY PROCESS, BUT WHAT THEY WILL BE DOING FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. IT'S JUST THE EVALUATION IN SCORING AND GIVING A LIST TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN OF THAT QUEUE OF SCORES FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, SO THAT WE CAN THEN TAKE THAT LIST AND DO THE CONTRACTING OURSELVES. WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ABOUT A THIRD PARTY DOING A CON, DOING THE CONTRACTS FOR SERVICES WITH THESE HOT REVENUE FUNDS. THEY HAVE TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE THEIR STATE OF TEXAS REQUIRED DOCUMENTATIONS, I MEAN, DOCUMENTS FOR THESE CONTRACTS. SO IF WE WERE TO HAVE A THIRD PARTY, DO ALL THAT CONTRACTING FOR US, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO LEARN AND DO, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE TRAINED ON HOW TO DO ALL OF THAT. THERE IS REALLY NO THIRD PARTY THAT DOES THAT AT ALL WITHIN THE CITY. SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WORK VERY HARD TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS FROM THE PORTAL SYSTEM INTO THE CONTRACTING SYSTEM. SO THAT DELAYS, THAT PREVIOUS DELAYS THAT HAPPENED, WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO CUT THAT DOWN AS BEST WE CAN. SO AT LEAST LET'S USE A THIRD PARTY TO GET US THROUGH THE PROBE, THROUGH THE APPLICATION, THROUGH THE EVALUATION, THROUGH THE SCORING AND GET US A LIST. AND WE WILL USE THAT LIST TO QUICKLY START CONTRACTING. AND BECAUSE OF THE TURNKEY COMPONENT OF PORTAL, A LOT OF THE HANGUPS WILL DISAPPEARED BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF BUILT INTO THE APPLICATION ALREADY TO TRY TO MAKE THE CONTRACTING PART, GO AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. NOW FOR AUSSIE MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF, THEY WILL DO THE EVALUATION AND SCORING FOR THE APPLICATIONS, BUT THEY WILL ALSO DO THE AWARDEE PAYMENTS BECAUSE THERE IS NO CONTRACTING. SO THEY WILL DO EVERYTHING THEY DID FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND, BUT THEN THEY'LL TAKE IT THAT NEXT STEP TO GO AND CUT THE CHECKS AND SEND THEM TO THE AWARDEES. AND THEN THAT CONTRACT WILL BE OVER FOR THAT, THAT PART. SO THIS THIRD-PARTY IS SOMEWHAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A FINITE CONTRACT. ONCE THESE TWO PROGRAMS ARE DONE, WE ASSUME AFTER WE LAUNCH THE APPLICATIONS THAT THIS IS ALL IN ALL ABOUT SIX WEEK PROCESS FOR BOTH PROGRAMS, AND THEN AUSTIN MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF, PEOPLE WILL BE GETTING THEIR CHECKS. AND THEN WE WILL BE DOING THE PRE-CONTRACT REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, THE PRE CONTRACTING WITH THE AWARDEES BASED ON WHAT THE THIRD-PARTY PROVIDED US IS IN TERMS OF A LIST. NOW YOU'D MENTIONED LIKE THIS IS YEAR ONE, THIS IS THE INAUGURAL YEAR, THE PILOT YEAR, AND THIS IS HOW WE NEED TO DO IT NOW, BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER WAY, THERE IS NO OTHER THIRD-PARTY THAT COULD POSSIBLY DO THIS TYPE OF CONTRACTING FOR US, BUT NEXT YEAR AEDC OR ANY OTHER, THERE COULD BE THAT CAPACITY THERE TO DO THE, BE THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR, INSTEAD OF WHOEVER IT IS FOR , MAYBE IT'S SOMEONE DIFFERENT FOR . MAYBE IT COULD BE THE AEDC THEY APPLY FOR THE RF FOR THE SOLICITATION, JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE WOULD. AND SO, BUT THEY KNOW THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET THIS PROGRAM LAUNCHED AND GET THIS MONEY OUT THE DOOR, UM, THIS FALL. SO ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, SO NAVIA TO ANY OF THAT. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SURE YOU HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS AROUND THIS. YEAH. THERE'S LIKE A LOT PACKED INTO THIS ONE POWERPOINT SLIDE. UM, OKAY. LET'S PUT IT BACK ON THE LAST SLIDE. YEAH. UH, SO I, UH, WOW. WHERE TO START. I, I THINK IT, SO THIS WOULD BE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, LIKE A FORMAL REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD, UM, OPEN TO ANYONE WHO'S GOING TO GO, BASICALLY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THAT. AND SO WHAT WOULD BE THE WOULD MUSIC COMMISSION, UH, COULD WE GIVE INPUT ON THE CRITERIA THAT'S IN THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL [01:30:01] IS MY FIRST QUESTION. YEAH, LET'S START THERE. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR SONIA OF YET WE HAVE THE SCOPE. WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT DO THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO? I WOULD SAY YOU SHOULD GIVE US THE AREAS OF INTEREST. SO, UM, THE TYPE OF EXPERIENCE THEY WOULD HAVE, UH, THE DIVERSITY OF THEIR STAFF, THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE ALREADY, UH, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW CERTAIN PROCUREMENT PROCESSES, BUT THE HIGH LEVEL CONCEPTS WE COULD INCORPORATE. RIGHT. AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S, UM, SO I KNOW THE PROCUREMENT OFFICERS WOULD BE INVOLVED PURCHASING. THEY'RE VERY SKILLED AT THIS. THEY DO THIS ALL DAY LONG. UM, BUT IT'S A REALLY COMPLEX PROCESS. SO YEAH, I THINK WE NEED TO HUSTLE AND THINK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO BE, UM, PART OF THAT CRITERIA. I MEAN, THAT CAN JUST BE A BULLET LIST, I THINK, BUT YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT AND WE'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY IS, IS WE WANT A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO GROW THE FUND. UM, SO YOU KNOW, AN ABILITY TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL FUNDING. LIKE TO ME, I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. AND, UM, SO WE WOULD WANT TO SEE A DEMONSTRATED ABILITY FOR THAT. AND SO I THINK THEN THERE'S KIND OF TWO PARTS WHERE MUSIC COMMISSION AND COMMUNITY IN GENERAL ARE, WOULD BE ENGAGED. SO WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK AT THE FEEDBACK ON WHAT WAS IN THE RFP, THOSE SPECIFIC, WELL, LET'S, I KNOW THERE'S LIKE A TON OF OTHER LIKE LEGAL LANGUAGE AND THINGS THAT PROCUREMENT WOULD HANDLE. AND THEN, UM, I GUESS IF THERE'S A SHORT LIST, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING COUNCIL APPROVES THIS, THERE'S A PERIOD. YOU GET KIDS IN, UM, IN YOUR REQUESTS, SOME SORT OF A LIKE PUBLIC INFORMATION PACKAGE FROM EACH BITTER. SO THAT THERE'S SOME HIGH LEVEL, YOU KNOW, EASY TO DIGEST INFORMATION FOR, UM, THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY TO, TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EACH GROUP IS OFFERING. AND MAYBE THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL THE BITTERS. MAYBE THAT'S A SHORT LIST, BUT I, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE WE WOULD, AS A COMMISSION WOULD WANT SOME, SOME TO GIVE SOME FEEDBACK ON WHO IS FINALLY SELECTED ON THAT. SO YEAH, YOU COULD LET ME SPEAK REALLY QUICK TO THE ADDITIONAL FUNDRAISING THAT WOULD IT BE ABOUT THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THIS? BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT GOES TO FUTURE, WE CANNOT LEVERAGE IN THIS CAPACITY LIVE MUSIC FUND TO FUNDRAISE. THAT WAS AN INAPPROPRIATE USE OF FUNDS FOR THIS PARTICULAR THIRD PARTY. BUT THAT COULD BE IN A FUTURE SOLICITATION AS WE, AS THE FUNDRAISING COMPONENTS COME INTO PLACE. BUT FOR JUST FOR US TO GET THIS GOING AND OUT THE DOOR, THIS FALL TO CONFLATE A FUNDRAISING COMPONENT WITH THIS IS A SEPARATE, COMPLETELY SEPARATE SCOPE OF WORK WITH SEPARATE MONEY AND COULD SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS. AND THERE, ONCE YOU DO AN RFP, THERE IS A NO-CONTACT PERIOD. SO I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF I COULD BRING YOU BACK A SHORT LIST, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE TO TALK WELL. RIGHT. SO WE COULDN'T HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH ANY OF THE VENDORS OR ANY OF THE BIDDERS. I MEAN, JUST LIKE WE CAN'T ON ACTUALLY, ANY, ANYTHING THAT'S COMING BEFORE, A PURCHASING DEPARTMENT THAT CAN'T APPROACH US AS CITY OFFICIALS, WHATEVER INFORMATION WE COULD GET NOW WOULD BE KEY BECAUSE THAT GOES INTO THE SOLICITATION BEFORE THAT NO CONTACT PERIOD STARTS. SO, I MEAN, THIS IS EXCITING. IT'S JUST FOR ME PERSONALLY, TO GET TO, LIKE, I HAVE A, I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS. LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT ALL THE QUESTIONS ARE AND WOULD THERE BE LIKE, SO IS THERE LIKE A FINITE, LIKE THE CONTRACT PERIOD WOULD BE SIX WEEKS, IT'S 12 MONTHS WITH AN EXTENSION IN CASE THERE'S ANY EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. IT'S BASIC CONTRACTING LANGUAGE. THAT'S PUT IN TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, CUTTING OURSELVES OFF TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TIME. SO, BUT THERE WILL BE A TIMELINE. THERE'LL BE VERY SPECIFIC IN THIS SOLICITATION OF, BY, YOU KNOW, UH, MILESTONES AND, AND THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN. AND WE NEED THIS BY ULTIMATELY THIS PARTICULAR DATE. SO, UM, AND IT WILL BE PRETTY FINITE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OR A COUPLE MONTHS, YOU KNOW, JUST HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES. LIKE I SAID, FROM THE TIME THE APPLICATION OPENS FOR BOTH, YOU'LL THE AWESOME MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF PROGRAM WOULD BE FINISHED SOONER BECAUSE IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE, WE WOULD THINK ONLY FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, LIKE THE CREATIVE WORKER GRANTS, PRETTY SIMPLE APPLICATION. WE WANT TO GET PEOPLE CHECKS FOR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS OR, WELL, LIKE NOVEMBER, [01:35:01] DECEMBER, AND THEN SIX WEEKS OPEN FOR LIVE MUSIC FUND. AND THEN BECAUSE OF THE TURNKEY SCORING SYSTEM, IT SHOULD BE RELATIVELY QUICK TO GET THAT LIST OF SCORED, YOU KNOW, SCORES FROM HIGHEST TO LOWEST SO THAT WE CAN START, WE CAN LET PEOPLE KNOW YOU'VE BEEN AWARDED AND START THE PRE-CONTRACT CONTRACTING PERIOD. AND SO, BUT REALLY THE THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS DONE WHEN THAT LIST IS HANDED DOWN, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S ONCE EVERY SIX WEEKS OPEN TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS TO GET THE FINAL LIST. SO IN ALL FROM APPLICATION OPENING AT 6, 7, 8, 9 WEEKS, YEAH. ABOUT NINE WEEKS OPEN. YEAH. WE WOULD STILL DO A YEAR ITS CONTRACT JUST BECAUSE THIS IS A, AND I WOULD JUST SAY THIS IS A PILOT YEAR. SO WE'RE GOING TO LEARN A LOT IN THIS FIRST YEAR AS WE GO THROUGH IT. BUT DEFINITELY TRYING TO USE ONE THIRD PARTY TO TRY TO CUT DOWN ON COSTS WAS ONE REASON. AND IT'S THE SAME CONSTITUENTS AND WE'VE HEARD ON OUR VARIOUS PROGRAMS, WHY DO I HAVE TO DO THIS PORTAL THEN TO GO BACK TO THIS PORTAL OF ALL THE RELIEF PROGRAMS? SO IT'S JUST A WAY TO TRY TO STREAMLINE. AND WE WORK WITH LAW AND PURCHASING ON THE STREAMLINE PROCESS AND WE FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT ABOUT IT. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFERENT, UM, CONTRACTING PROCESS THAT WE THINK WON'T TAKE AS MONTHS AS PREVIOUS TIMES, BECAUSE OF NOT ONLY HOW WE'RE GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION INITIALLY THROUGH THE APPLICATION, BUT THROUGH HOW WE'RE STREAMLINING THE PROCESS THROUGH THE BACKEND OF THE SYSTEM, TO GET US TO A CONTRACT, THERE WILL BE CONTRACT TEMPLATES IN THE BACKEND OF THE SYSTEM THAT WE WILL USE ONCE WE HAVE AWARDEES. AND YOU MENTIONED YOU REFERRED BACK TO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, WORKING GROUP, LIKE REQUESTING TRANSPARENCY AND SELECTING THAT ADMINISTRATION, THAT ADMINISTRATOR, LIKE WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY? LIKE HOW WOULD WE KNOW HOW THE SELECTION PROCESS AND SCORING AND PUBLIC INFORMATION PACKAGES, VIEW REQUESTERS, LIKE, SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REQUEST A PEER ON YOUR OWN APPLICATION, BUT NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S. SO, UM, JUST TO BE TRANSPARENT, I MEAN, YOU CAN ASK ABOUT HOW YOU WERE SCORED, BUT YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN ASK ABOUT A DIFFERENT SCORE, BUT THE AGENCY IS NOT GOING TO LET US RELEASE THAT DATA TO YOU. AND YOU TALKING ABOUT THE THIRD PARTY CONTRACT. YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND SEE WHAT, WHAT AVAILABLE AND INTERESTED ORGANIZATIONS COULD STEP UP FOR THIS. LIKE, I LOVE THAT IDEA. UM, AND, UH, IT'S JUST, UH, YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAPPENS IN A WAY THAT THE COMMUNITY FEELS CONFIDENT AND THAT, THAT, YEAH. CAUSE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE WHOLE SCOPE OF WORK. THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO GET ALL OF YOUR FEEDBACK NOW. SO IT MAKES IT INTO THE SCOPE OF WORK, WHICH IS THE SOLICITATION, SO THAT WHEN THE SOLICITATION IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, THEY SEE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS WANTED THERE, EVERYTHING WE NEED THERE FROM A CITY PERSPECTIVE. AND THEN THE PROCESS HAS A PROCESS OF ITS OWN. AND, YOU KNOW, WITH PURCHASING LAWS AND RULES, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, AND AGAIN, EDD WON'T BE PART OF THE EVALUATION. IT WILL BE VERY SKILLED PARTS OF THE CITY THAT WILL DO THE SCORING, THE EVALUATION TO GET TO THE RIGHT THIRD-PARTY. BUT ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS IF AN ORGANIZATION DOESN'T FEEL QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SCOPE OF WORK, BECAUSE THIS IS A HUGE, THIS IS A SCOPE OF WORK. WE DO HAVE THIRD PARTIES THAT HAVE SHOWN US THAT THEY CAN DO THIS LEVEL OF WORK. IT'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE TEAMS FOR BOTH PROGRAMS WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, VERY DEDICATED JOBS OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO GET THROUGH THE MILESTONES, TO GET THE APPLICATIONS EVALUATED AND SCORED APPROPRIATELY AND CORRECTLY. THEY DIDN'T, ALL THOSE RESULTS HAVE TO BE AUDITED BY A FINANCIAL TEAM. THAT IS PART OF THAT. THIRD-PARTY A CONTROLLER AND AN ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, UH, CHECKS AND BALANCES THROUGH FOR THIS THIRD PARTY. THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT LEVEL OF CAPACITY. THERE ARE GROUPS THAT CAN DO IT. NOW, IF THERE ARE GROUPS THAT ARE LIKE, WELL, I JUST, WE'RE A STAFF OF THREE. WE WOULD LOVE TO, THIS IS WHAT WE ASPIRE TO ONE DAY. THIS IS WHERE THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM WOULD BE GREAT, $50,000 GRANTS FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO HELP WITH THESE APPLICATIONS. SO IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR THEM TO DO CAPACITY BUILDING THROUGH AS A COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR, TO LEARN THE INS AND OUTS AND TO BUILD CAPACITY TOWARDS MAYBE ONE DAY BEING, UH, YOU KNOW, QUALIFIED TO BE THIS LEVEL OF THIRD PARTY. BECAUSE EVEN TO BE AN ADMINISTRATOR OF THE FEDERAL FUNDS, THERE ARE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO AS A CONTRACTOR. SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, WHEN THE CONTRACT GOES TO COUNCIL, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT THE SCHOOL [01:40:01] OR PURCHASING HAS A VERY RIGID PROCESS AND YOU HAVE TO SHOW WHO'S WHO APPLIED THE SCORING, ET CETERA. SO THE COMMUNITY WILL KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE POSTED. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN SECRET. ALL OF THAT. UM, YEAH, I'M, I'M AWARE OF THAT. I JUST DON'T LIKE SORT OF THE SPECIFICS OF LIKE WHAT, WHAT WAS OFFERED BY EACH GROUP. I KNOW SOME OF THAT IS LIKE DEEP FINANCIALS THAT YOU WOULDN'T REVEAL TO THE PUBLIC, BUT JUST IN TERMS OF LIKE THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION FEE, LIKE THAT'S HUGE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO SEE. UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED DIVERSITY OF STAFF, LIKE THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU'D WANT TO CONSIDER, UM, JUST THEIR PAST EXPERTISE. LIKE, ARE THEY, DO THEY HAVE A TRACK RECORD? ALL OF THOSE THINGS I THINK WOULD BE CONSIDERATIONS FOR US. UM, SO AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I MEAN, I, TO BE HONEST, WAS PREPARED TO WALK IN AND SUGGEST LIKE AN RFP PROCESS FOR THIS. UM, BUT, UH, AND I DON'T WANT TO JUMP TOO FAR AHEAD, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE, SO WE KIND OF HAVE THREE THINGS THAT IN FRONT OF US AND THIS AGENDA ITEM. SO WE, WE HAVE THE LIVE MUSIC FUND FRAMEWORK FINALIZED, UH, THAT WE CERTAINLY CONSIDER APPROVING AS A GROUP OR, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE AHEAD WITH THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS FEEL, UH, THE DISASTER RELIEF, AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AT A SPECIAL MEETING AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO TAKE A VOTE ON. AND THEN WE HAVE LIKE THIS THIRD PIECE OF IT. SO THAT'S JUST HOW I SEE IT PROCESS WAS THIS THIRD PIECE, LIKE MIKE, I'M NOT SURE. I MEAN STILL HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT YEAH. SO AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND SEE WHAT QUESTIONS THEY HAVE ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC PART. AND THEN JUST GENERALLY LIKE HOW WE, HOW WE PROCEED THIS EVENING ON BOATS. I HAD A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS. UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE, UH, SCORING MATRIX HAD TANGIBLE FEELINGS OF, OF RELIEF. I FELT LIKE THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE ALL BEEN HAVING OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE REALLY BEEN HEARD. I FELT LIKE, UM, JUST, I HAVE FELT VERY HOPEFUL AND I FELT, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN WHAT YOU SHARED WITH US TODAY. ONE THING THAT CAME UP, UH, IN REGARD TO MUSIC, INDUSTRY WORKERS AND THE EMERGENCY RELIEF FUND IS SOME OF THE VENUES COME TO MIND THAT WERE LOST. AND A LOT OF THE VENUE WORKERS WHO DID NOT GET TO RETURN TO WORK BECAUSE THE VENUES NOW GONE, OR ALSO WORKERS WHO WORKED IN PRODUCTION COMPANIES WHO STILL ARE IN EXISTENCE, BUT MUCH OF THEIR STAFF WAS LAID OFF PERMANENTLY. I JUST WONDERED, WONDERED IF THERE IS SOME WAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WITHIN A SCORING SYSTEM SOMEHOW, SO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE WORKERS MAY NOT EVER RETURN TO THE, TO THE SECTOR. SOME OF THEM HAVE, BUT NOT ON THE LEVEL THAT THEY WERE EARNING BEFORE, ET CETERA, YOU GET MY DRIFT. AND I DON'T, I HAVEN'T REALLY THOUGHT THIS OUT, BUT IT POPPED UP IN MY MIND WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO LOST THEIR JOBS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THAT'S THAT'S, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL THINK ON THAT BECAUSE THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENT IS TWO YEARS. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE LAST TWO YEARS FROM THIS MOMENT, IT'S TWO YEARS. BUT PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, EVEN TO SHOW THAT YOU LOST YOUR JOB AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT, ANY OF THAT WORK BACK, THAT'S FINE. IT'S STILL JUST TWO YEARS OF ELIGIBILITY DOCUMENTATION. BUT AS WE'RE HOPING THAT ALL OF THE STACK POINTS FOR THE 24 POINTS FOR COVID IMPACTS THE PPE IMPACT AND THE NOT THE INABILITY TO GET BACK TO PREVIOUS PANDEMIC INCOME, WE'LL COVER THOSE FOLKS. BUT WE WILL THINK ON HOW TO, IF THERE'S A SCORING CRITERIA FOR FOLKS THAT JUST CAN'T GET A JOB IN THIS INDUSTRY ANYMORE, BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH JOBS. YEAH. I THINK WHAT I WAS DRIVING AT TOO IS IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO INPUT ANY DATA AT ALL, JUST ONE LINE WHERE THEY CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, I WORKED AT THIS VENUE, IT'S NOW GONE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE NO HIRING WASN'T HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, WITHIN OUR SECTOR FOR X AMOUNT OF TIME. AND YOU KNOW, THAT I WAS HARMED FINANCIALLY BECAUSE OF THAT, SOME OF THE VENUES WERE LOST BEFORE HELP CAME. RIGHT. SO WE'LL THINK ON THAT TO SEE HOW WE CAN, IF THERE'S A WAY TO SCORE FOR THAT. [01:45:01] IS THERE ANY, UH, THERE'S ANY WAY FOR US? UH, I THINK YOU MIGHT'VE TOUCHED ON THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK ANYWAY, UM, TOO, THERE'S A, THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP THAT'S GONNA DECIDE WHO THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR IS. YOU SAID, CORRECT. UM, IS THERE ANY WAY FOR US TO GET DOWN TO A COUPLE AND THEN HAVE SOME DIALOGUE OR NO, NO OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. I'LL CONFIRM IT PURCHASING AGAIN, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE SO. SO THE PURCHASING OFFICE IS GOING TO RUN THE SOLICITATION AND THEY WILL PUT TOGETHER THE EVALUATION TEAM. RIGHT? NO, I GET IT. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF AFTER THEY, IF THEY KIND OF GET IT DOWN TO TWO ENTITIES, IF WE COULD MAYBE HAVE THEM PRESENT HERE AND WE CAN ADD A VOTE ON IN NOTHING LIKE THAT, AN RFP IS BASED ON YOUR PROPOSAL. ONCE WE PUT THAT OUT THERE, THAT'S IT? YEAH. MY OTHER QUESTION WITH THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM, UM, IS DO YOU HAVE TO BE A NONPROFIT? NO, NO. AND IT'S OPEN RIGHT NOW. AND SO WE WANT ALL, WHOEVER THINKS THAT THEY CAN ASSIST SOMEONE TO PLEASE APPLY, WE NEED PEOPLE FROM ALL REGIONS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS THAT APPLICATION IT'S ON T X RECOVERS.COM, IF YOU HAVEN'T GOT THAT AND WE CAN GET THE LINK OUT TO YOU ALL. YEAH. WE NEED A, WE NEED A WIDE RANGE OF INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN REACH COMMUNITY. I THINK YOU DO HAVE TO BE AN ORGANIZED ORGANIZATION. I DON'T THINK IT'S INDIVIDUALS. IS IT AGGREGATES? OH, OKAY. WELL THEN YES. SPREAD THE WORD. UM, I THINK MY OTHER QUESTION IS, OH, SHOOT. IT JUST LEFT MY BRAIN. SO IT'LL COME BACK WITH, I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, IS THERE A, UM, LIKE A SHORT LIST OF VENDORS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HEAD FOR? WELL, I WOULD REFER YOU TO THE VENDORS WE'VE USED PREVIOUSLY@ATXRECOVERS.COM. IF YOU GO TO H EXPERT COVERS.COM AND CLICK ON, UH, IMPACT ECONOMIC IMPACT, THAT WILL DRAW A BULLETED LIST OF EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM WE'VE DONE SINCE MARCH, 2020, IF YOU CLICK ON IT, IT TELLS YOU THE THIRD PARTY OF WHO'S BEEN USED SO FAR, SOME OF THE NEW SEVERAL TIMES, BECAUSE IT WAS PRETTY TURNKEY AND A GOOD SITUATION. SO WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE QUALIFIED ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE THAT CAN DO THIS LEVEL OF WORK. NEXT QUESTION. IS THERE, UM, UH, WAS, IS THERE ANY LIKE CRITERIA OR QUALIFICATIONS FOR HOW THEY EVEN CAME TO BE PART OF ADMINISTERING THESE FUNDS TO SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN? YEAH. WE WENT THROUGH AGAIN, A SOLICITATION PROCESS WHERE WE ASKED A SERIES OF QUESTIONS AND DID AN EVALUATION, AND WE DID THAT IN-HOUSE BECAUSE COUNCIL WANTED US TO DO IMMEDIATE. AND SO EMERGENCY, WE FOLLOWED A FORMAL PROCESS, ASK THEM ALL THE SAME QUESTIONS. THEY CAME UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS. ARE WE STILL IN EMERGENCY AUTHORIZATION? NO EMERGENCY. WE'RE NOT STILL IN THE EMERGENCY. YEAH. WE'RE NOT REALLY CONSIDERED ANY EMERGENCY RIGHT NOW. WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. UM, BASED ON SOME RESOLUTIONS FROM COUNCIL, BUT RIGHT NOW PURCHASING IS LIFE. NAH, BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THEY HAVEN'T TALKED WITH US IS GOING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO GET THIS DOWN THE STREET. LIKE AGAIN, THE SCOPE OF WORK IS JUST ABOUT DONE. I JUST NEED FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS TO UPDATE IT. AND THEN IF IT'S ON THE STREET IN TWO TO THREE WEEKS AND YOU KNOW, AND THEN ON THE STREET FOR TWO WEEKS, WE COULD REALLY GET THIS APPLICATION OPEN BY HOPEFULLY END OF OCTOBER, LIKE WE HAD AND THE IDEAL. YEAH. UM, SO IF, IF, IF WE'RE NOT ANY EMERGENCY AUTHORIZATION, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD KIND OF OPEN UP THE INQUIRY TO OTHER VENUES BEFORE WE START THE RFP PROCESS TO OTHER, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY POTENTIAL THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATORS, IT'S OPEN TO ANYONE WHO IS QUALIFIED. YEAH. ANYONE WHO FITS THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA AS FAR AS PURCHASING IS CONCERNED, OPEN TO EVERYBODY, REGARDLESS IF THEY'VE BEEN AT THIRD-PARTY PREVIOUSLY OR NOT. AND WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON SOMEONE APPLYING AND BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE ROLE. SO IF WE GET THE SOLICITATION AND FINALIZED AND PUBLIC, UH, ON THE STREETS IN TWO TO THREE WEEKS, IT HAS TO BE OPEN AT A MINIMUM FOR TWO WEEKS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR, BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO A BIG OUTREACH BEFOREHAND. SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE AND APPLY. AND THEN HOW LONG WOULD THE EVALUATION PROCESS TAKE WITH THE, AFTER THE TWO WEEKS? I DON'T MISS THE TWO WEEKS, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE PURCHASING TIMELINE AND THEY'VE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS, [01:50:01] BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT THEIR ONLY DEPARTMENT. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND I'M KIND OF NEW TO THIS, SO EXCUSE ME, BUT THEY KIND OF, YOU, YOU ALL OVERSEE THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTERING THE FUNDS, GIVEN WHAT HAPPENS IN THE RFP PROCESS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. IT WILL BE THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATOR. OKAY. UM, ONE MORE QUESTION. IS IT POSSIBLE? AND I KNOW THAT ERICA, WE BRIEFLY KIND OF TOUCHED ON THIS WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING LAST, UM, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, UH, IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO OPEN UP THE APPLICATION TO MORE THAN JUST THE ETJ? THAT WAS A QUESTION I HAD FOR SYNOVIA AS WELL TO SEE IF THERE ARE THIRD PARTIES OUTSIDE MSA THAT WOULD BE QUALIFIED. I MEAN, WOULD BE, EXCUSE ME. AND NOT THIRD PARTIES, BUT, UM, LIKE ACTUAL, UM, YOU KNOW, ARTISTS THAT WOULD APPLY FOR THE DISASTER. OH, THEY HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE MSA. THEIR HOME ADDRESS HAS TO BE WITHIN THE MSA, WHICH IS THE FIVE COUNTIES OF CENTRAL TEXAS. SO IT'S BIGGER THAN THE ETJ. OKAY. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH. I HAD THOSE BACKWARDS THEN. UH, THAT'S THAT'S A STANDING RULE. YEAH. THAT'S A NEW ROLE. IT USED TO BE, YOU HAD TO BE IN A COUNCIL DISTRICT AND THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK. RIGHT. AND WE'VE TALKED TO THE LAW DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE REALIZED BECAUSE OF THE CRAFT OF LIVING, A LOT OF MUSICIANS HAVE HAD TO MOVE OUT, BUT THEY STILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE LOCAL MUSIC ECONOMY. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE WRITE, SO THEY WERE FINE WITH IT. OKAY. SO CAN I ASK FOR A CLARIFICATION, UM, UH, BY THE WAY, I AGREE WITH PATRICE. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, UM, UH, HEARING THE, THE, UH, THE COMMENTS OF THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE GUIDELINES, UH, LOOK REALLY AWESOME. SO THANKS IS ONE OF THE LEAD WITH THAT. UM, AND THE, UM, THE PERSON OR THE ENTITY WHO'S MAKING THE DECISION ON WHO THIS THIRD PARTY IS GOING TO BE. IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY INPUT IN THAT, UM, WHO IS, WHO IS ACTUALLY THE ONE MAKING THAT DECISION. SO THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S CORPORATE PURCHASING OFFICE. SO WE HAVE A PURCHASING OFFICE THAT PURCHASES FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, WITH ITS, UH, PANS, TRUCKS, CARS, SERVICES. AND SO WE HAVE A PURCHASING OFFICER AND HE HAS STAFF THAT DOES PROCUREMENT FOR THE CITY. SO THAT THAT'S, THAT STRIKES ME AS AN, BECAUSE THEY, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A STRONG CONNECTION TO THE MUSIC COMMUNITY AND WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE MUSIC COMMUNITY ARE. AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAD IN THE PAST WITH A THIRD PARTY THAT WE USE THAT WAS USED IN ADMINISTRATING THESE GRANTS WAS THAT THEY WERE, THEY WERE, THEY HAD NO IDEA WHAT, WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY? THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AND IT, IT DIDN'T GO WELL. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT BBB, LET ME JUST COME RIGHT OUT AND SAY IT. AND I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IF THAT DECISION IS LEFT WITH SOMEBODY WHO HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THESE PROGRAMS, IT'S JUST WORRISOME TO ME. YEAH. I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT, BUT I WILL HAVE TO SAY BBB FULFILLED EVERY REQUIREMENT WITHIN THEIR CONTRACT. THEY HAVE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND ITEMS WE HAVE ASKED FOR, I WILL, I WILL ATTEST TO THAT. IF YOU GO THROUGH THEIR CONTRACTS, I HAVE EMAILS FROM VARIOUS PEOPLE AND WE WENT THROUGH A PROPER SOLICITATION AND I HEAR YOU, AND WE CAN INCORPORATE, UM, AN ASK AS PART OF THE SOLICITATION. WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE MUSIC COMMUNITY, CREATIVE COMMUNITY? YOU KNOW, HOW WELL HAVE YOU DONE OUTREACH? WE GET THOSE GENERAL TYPE THINGS WE CAN ASK. BUT I JUST, I, AS I INDICATED TO COUNCIL SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, WHEN THEY ASKED, I CANNOT FIND ANYWHERE IN THEIR CONTRACT WHERE THEY DIDN'T DO A THING THAT WE REQUIRED OF THEM. I UNDERSTAND THEY MAY HAVE BEEN SOME FEELINGS, BUT IN TERMS OF CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP, THEY FULFILLED EVERYTHING. RIGHT? YEAH. AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS THIRD PARTY AND THE HUGE SCOPE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT AUDIT PROOF WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN AUDIT OFFICE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE EVALUATING FOR IS SOMEONE WHO CAN IMPLEMENT THE GUT. THEY DIDN'T WRITE THE GUIDELINES. THEY HAVE NO SAY OR EFFECT ON THE GUIDELINES, THE SCORING, OR ANYTHING [01:55:01] THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE GIVEN YOUR FEEDBACK TO CREATE. IT'S JUST ABOUT IMPLEMENTING ACCORDING TO SOME DIRECTIONS THAT, AND THEY COVER EVERY SINGLE BASE SO THAT IF WE GO AND AUDIT THEM AT THE END, EVERY EYE AND EVERYTHING IS DOTTED AND PERFECT, THAT'S WHAT THE THIRD PARTIES BEING HIRED TO DO. BUT THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS ON THE OTHER HAND, YES, THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE PROVIDING TA ASSISTANCE TO HELP APPLICANTS GET THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS AND THEN CONTRACTORS TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND HOW TO BEST ADVANCE THEIR EVENTS, TO GET TO THAT FINAL REPORT. THAT IS AWESOME. THEY NEED TO HAVE A MUSIC BACKGROUND, NO DOUBT. THEY NEED TO KNOW BEST PRACTICES. THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND EVENTS. THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND MARKETING. AND SO THOSE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS TO ME ARE THAT KEY ISSUE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE QUALIFIED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TYPE OF TA THEY'RE PROVIDING. BUT THE THIRD PARTY TO ME NEEDS TO BE SOMEONE WITH ENOUGH STAFF, WITH A CONTROLLER AND ACCOUNTING STAFF, AND HAVE STAFF TO DO EVALUATION AND SCORING, CHECK EACH OTHER'S WORK AND FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS. ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT THAT THEY'RE SIGNING WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN. AND AGAIN, THEY WILL EXECUTE THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE APPROVED. THESE ARE GUIDELINES DEVELOP WITH TELLING THEM WITHIN THE CONTRACT YEAR TO EXECUTE OUR GUIDELINES, NOT THEIR GUIDELINES, THEY'RE EXECUTING. WHAT WE HAVE IN COUNCIL HAS APPROVED. SO IT'S THE GUIDELINES. AND RIGHT NOW, UH, OUR INTERNAL CITY AUDITOR IS ACTUALLY REVIEWING ALL OF OUR, UH, PROGRAMS FROM THE LAST RELEASE. AND SO WE'VE NOT RUN INTO ANY ISSUES, ANY ISSUES IT'S SO BIG, IT'S A LOT OF CAPACITY IS NEEDED TO DO THIS PROPERLY. AND SO TO ADD ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT IT'S LIKE THE MARY POPPINS LETTER OF WHAT YOUR PERFECT NANNY WOULD BE, AND MAYBE, BUT DOUBTFUL, THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO BRING ALL OF THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR COMPONENT TO FILL THOSE GAPS, TO BUILD THE TRUST WITH THOSE APPLICANTS AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. SO I WILL DEFINITELY INCLUDE, UM, QUESTIONS AROUND THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE CREATIVE COMMUNITY MUSIC COMMUNITY, UM, IN TERMS OF THEIR COMMUNICATION STYLE, UM, APPROACH, ET CETERA, SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE, UM, INVITING IF THAT'S, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES EVALUATING THE APPLICATIONS, IT'S IT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY QUEER, A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT GUIDELINES, BUT THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, UH, SUBJECTIVE DECISIONS MADE, UH, ON PEOPLE'S APPLICATIONS, RIGHT ON HOW ON, YOU KNOW, HOW TO AWARD THOSE POINTS. UM, AND SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IF SOMEBODY, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE EVALUATING THOSE APPLICATIONS SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, PLACE THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THEM IN THE CONTEXT OF UNDERSTANDING HOW THE COMMUNITY WORKS AND HOW, HOW WELL WE TRIED TO STRIKE ANY SUBJECTIVITY FROM THE QUESTIONS SO THAT THE SCORE IS IT'S LIKE A, THERE WILL BE A SCORING GUIDE FOR THE THIRD-PARTY TO FOLLOW, TO BE SURE. AND TO CONFIRM THESE ARE THE CORRECT POINTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR ANSWER. THERE WON'T, THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS THAT ARE PROS LIKE YOUR NARRATIVE, BUT YOU DON'T GET SCORED ON IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO SCORE ON HOW WELL YOU, RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO SCORE YOU ON THE ANSWERS YOU'RE GIVING THROUGHOUT THE APPLICATION. AND SO THERE'S ONLY ONE ANSWER THAT LEADS TO ONE SCORE AND SO THAT THEY WILL NOT BE MAKING SUBJECTIVE JUDGMENTS, THEY WILL BE TRIPLE CHECKING THEIR WORK TO BE SURE THIS IS THE RIGHT SCORE BASED ON HOW THEY ANSWERED THAT THIS IS LEE. IT'S JUST ONE OR IT'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE TURNKEY. AND WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE ALL THAT SUBJECTIVITY OUT, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT IS A BARRIER, IT'S AN EQUITY BARRIER THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REMOVE GOING FORWARD. SO, SO THE LAST ROLLOUT OF THE REALLY FUN HAT, I THINK 1,571 APPLICANTS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, HALF OF THEM WERE, YOU KNOW, SCORED AND, AND CURATED AND ALL THAT STUFF. AND THEY WERE AWARDED THE FUNDS AND I BELIEVE THE OTHER HALF OF THEM WENT INTO A LOTTERY SYSTEM. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, RIGHT. AGAIN, WE'RE NOT REALLY, YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT AGAIN. AND THAT, THAT WAS ADMINISTERED BY THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU AND THEY WERE, HOW MUCH WERE THEY PAID FOR THAT WE KNOW THAT WAS BASED ON WHAT WE TOLD THEM EXACTLY. RIGHT. YES. YEAH. AGAIN, I KNOW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, IT, I MEAN, I THINK HOW WE'RE DOING THINGS GOING FORWARD, [02:00:01] UM, DEFINITELY MATTERS. I KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, A BETTER APPROACH TO HOW WE'RE ADMINISTERING THESE FUNDS. IT, IT, UM, UM, I'M GOING TO PAUSE FOR A SECOND. JUST GOING TO PAUSE. UM, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAD ANY OBSERVATIONS FROM THE AUDIT. I KNOW THERE WERE NO SERIOUS FINDINGS THAT WERE INCORPORATED INTO THE NEW GUIDELINES AVAILABLE AUDIT RESULTS FROM, UM, I'M NOT SURE I'LL HAVE TO CHECK BACK IN WITH THEM TO SEE WHEN THEY'RE COMP THEY DID A SERIES OF ALL THE 13 PROGRAMS MY MUM WAS TAKEN. SO MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT THEY'LL HAVE A REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL ON THAT THE AUDIT RESULTS. AND I THINK WE'RE KIND OF AT THE TAIL END OF THIS, OF THE FUNDING THAT THEY'RE EVALUATING AND IT'S GOING WELL. SO MY ASSUMPTION WOULD BE THIS FALL OR SPRING THAT YOU WOULD SEE THOSE RESULTS. IT'S ALWAYS A FORMAL REPORT TO COUNCIL THAT'S POSTED ON THE WEB. UH, PARDON ME? WHAT WAS THE TIMELINE AGAIN ON THAT? I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THE TIMELINE? I JUST DON'T KNOW. IT COULD BE ANYWHERE, BUT PROBABLY THE SPRING I WOULD THINK, OR THE F I JUST DON'T KNOW. YEAH, THANK YOU. WE CAN FIND OUT, WE CAN FIND OUT, I HAVE A QUESTION IT'S NOT ABOUT THE THIRD PARTY. IT'S ABOUT THE CRITERIA ITSELF. I THINK WE'RE GOING BACK TO SLIDE, UM, TWO OR THREE. UM, CAN WE, YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS EXACTLY IT. UM, IT'S MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACT, WHICH IS 20 POINTS OF THE SCORE, THE QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACK OR NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE INCOME IS BELOW THAT I BELIEVE IT WAS WHERE 50% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS ARE BELOW THE 60% THRESHOLD THAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO. YET. WE ALREADY HAVE THE, UH, INCOME OF THE PERSON ITSELF. AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF GENTRIFICATION, RIGHT? WHEN WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE ONCE LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE NOW SUDDENLY HIGH INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS, SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WILL HAVE A HARDER HURDLE BECAUSE THEIR NEIGHBORS ARE WEALTHY, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT, THEY MAY NOT BE. AND I WOULD SUSPECT THAT MOST OF THE QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACKS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN GIVEN, UM, GIVEN WHAT PROPERTY IS LIKE IN THE CITY, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT, UM, UH, AND COULD, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GO JUST WITH THE INCOME AND NOT CONCERN OURSELVES SO MUCH WITH WHICH NEIGHBORHOOD? WELL, THAT'S A DIRECT REQUIRED A DIRECT PREFERENCE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND BECAUSE OF THE REPORTING AND AUDITING REQUIREMENTS OF ARPA, IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO SCORE FOR THAT AND SHOW THE DIRECT CORRELATION IN OUR REPORTING BACK ARPA DEMANDS EVIDENCE-BASED REPORTING, WHICH USUALLY IS IN THE FORM OF SCHOLARLY STUDIES BY UNIVERSITIES TO PROVE THAT THE METHOD YOU'RE DOING IS CORRECT. THERE ARE NO SCHOLARLY STUDIES YET AS TO WHY THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IS ONLY TARGETED FOR THIS PROGRAM. THERE ARE NO STUDIES BECAUSE IT'S, COVID, IT'S A ONCE IN A LIFETIME HAPPENING THAT'S STILL HAPPENING. SO WE TRIED TO BUILD IN EXACTLY WHAT THE FEDS WANTED TO SEE IN LIEU OF THE EVIDENCE OF WHY WE ARE FOCUSING JUST ON THE MUSIC INDUSTRY FOR THESE GRANTS. SO WE ARE GOING TO STACK THE QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACK WITH THE SALARY SO THAT WE CAN FOCUS IN ON THE PEOPLE, MAKING THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THOSE CENSUS TRACKS SO THAT THEY AREN'T GETTING THE SAME POINTS AS A RICH PERSON, THAT LIVES HAPPENS TO LIVE IN A QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACK. THEY GET MORE POINTS BECAUSE OF THEIR SALARY AND THEY LIVE THERE. SO IT'S A DIRECT REQUIREMENT AND PREFERRED PREFERENCE OF THE FEDS, RIGHT? BUT ACCORDING TO THIS SCORING CRITERIA, A LOW-INCOME PERSON LIVING IN A LOW INCOME TRACK OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS OF AUSTIN WOULD SCORE HIGHER THAN A LOW INCOME PERSON LIVING IN. LET'S JUST SAY, EAST AUSTIN, WHICH IS ACTUALLY, IT IS OVERLAID ON EAST AUSTIN. I LOOKED, I, YES, I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT MY OWN ADDRESS. SO EAST AUSTIN, LIKE UNIVERSITY HILLS, SPRINGDALE HILL HILLS, THAT IS AN, A QUALIFIED CENSUS TRACK. AND THAT WOULD GO ALL THE WAY OUT PROBABLY TO CALL ANY PARK. AND SO THERE ARE MAPS AND WE HAVE AN INTERACTIVE MAP THAT WE'LL PROVIDE AS PART OF THE APPLICATION FOR PEOPLE TO SEE WHERE THEIR ADDRESSES. AND YOU'D BE SURPRISED. THEY'RE LIKE THESE, [02:05:01] THEY LOOK LIKE FLOODPLAINS, THEY'RE ALL WEIRD AND SQUIGGLY ALL OVER THE PLACE AND IT'S BASED ON HISTORICAL DATA. OKAY. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I'M IN THE PROCESS OF CHOOSING THE THIRD PARTY THAT I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY SYNOVIA, THAT THERE WILL BE ATTENTION GIVEN TO THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF AND WHAT THEIR, UH, PRACTICES ARE FOR HIRING WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION IN REGARD TO DIVERSITY AND EQUITY, WHICH WOULD REFLECT THAT THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS AND WHAT'S REQUIRED OF THEM TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT EACH APPLICANT. YES, WE CAN. I WILL DISCUSS HOW TO BUILD THAT IN WITH, UM, PURCHASING, BUT I THINK THERE ARE QUESTIONS. I KNOW I HAD SOME CHANGES ON IT, BUT WE ARE WRITING THAT DOWN. WE, I, AND I DON'T TAKE WHAT I'M I HEAR THE CONCERN. I REALLY DO. I I'VE HEARD IT. I HEARD IT IN THE PAST, BUT I JUST, I HAVE TO FOLLOW, UM, THE STATE STATUTES THAT 2 52, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. AND SO WE WILL LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BUILD THAT INTO THE EVALUATION, BUT I HEAR YOU, UH, I'VE HEARD IT. UM, UM, AND SO LET US GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT, BUT AGAIN, I HEAR YOU AND I'VE HEARD IT FROM THE COMMUNITY. SO LET US GET WITH PURCHASING BECAUSE THEY ARE THE EXPERTS, UM, IN TERMS OF THIS PROCESS, AND TRUST ME, THEY'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF, UH, PROCESSES AND THERE IS A PREFERENCE FOR LOCAL, UM, COMPANIES TO GET AWARD. SO LET US DEFINITELY, I HEAR YOU AND WE'LL TALK TO PURCHASING. SO WE NEED YOUR WISHLIST OF EVERYTHING, EVEN IF IT'S JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S CRAZY. THAT COULD NEVER WORK WELL, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW. WE WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING AND WE'LL ASK, AND WE'LL TRY TO WRAP IN EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO, INTO THE PROCESS. THANK YOU. YEP. PURCHASE A NOTE. YOU'RE VERY UNIQUE IN WHAT WE PURCHASE. THEY SAY THAT OVER AND OVER THOUGH, THEY'VE WORKED WITH US. WE DON'T BUY WIDGETS. WE BUY A LOT OF UNIQUE THINGS. I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT COULD YOU DESCRIBE, UH, WHAT THE PEER PANELS, UH, I'M SORRY. THE PEER SAYS NO PEER PANELS EXPLAINING WHAT THOSE ARE AND WHY IT'S GOOD NOT TO HAVE THEM. SO THIS WAS A PEER PANEL SYSTEM THAT HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN USED IN CULTURAL FUNDING PROGRAMS. AND BASED ON HOW WE'VE SET UP OUR PARTICULAR PROGRAM WITH KIND OF THIS TURNKEY SCORING SYSTEM, WE DON'T NEED PEER PANELS, WHICH COULD LEAD TO SUBJECTIVITY. THAT'S JUST THE PREFERENCE THAT WE ARE TAKING AS WE FORMED THIS NEW PROGRAM BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN AND LEARNED PREVIOUSLY. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF APPLES AND ORANGES BETWEEN ARTS AND MUSIC ANYWAY, OF WHY THEY WOULD NEED A PEER PANEL AND WHY I THINK WHY WE KNOW THAT WE CAN CREATE A SCORING SYSTEM THAT GETS US THERE. AND SO, UM, I THINK THE PEER PANEL PROCESS LEADS NO MATTER HOW WELL YOUR INTENTIONS ARE, HOW AWESOME THE PROCESS IS AND VETTED. AND IT'S STILL SUBJECTIVE SOMEWHAT. IF YOU'VE GOT SOME GROUP OF PEOPLE DECIDING ON YOUR SCORE FROM RANGE TO RANGE BASED ON THE CONVERSATION. SO WE WANTED TO, WE JUST DON'T WANT THAT IN THIS PROGRAM. I SEE. I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, SO COULD YOU, COULD YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE FORMAT FOR THE QUESTIONS, LIKE IF YOU'RE MAKING THEM, IF YOU'RE MAKING THESE, UH, THESE VERY COMPLEX ISSUES, UH, INTO MOST OF THEM ARE MULTIPLE CHOICE. IT'S AWESOME. AND SO CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF, OF LIKE, SO, LIKE IT'S A LOT OF, YES, NO QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO LOOK AT KIM BECAUSE SHE'S THE ONE WHO IS OUR AUTHOR AND AMAZING GUIDELINE GURU. SO IF YOU COULD THINK OF SOME THINGS, CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME, THERE YOU GO. UM, SO ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND PROGRAM QUESTION? UH, YEAH. SO, UM, SO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED WOULD BE, I'M JUST GOING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, CAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WE ARE ASKING ABOUT, UM, LBGTQ I, A WOMAN IDENTIFYING THESE QUESTIONS WOULD BE STACKED, FOR EXAMPLE. SO IT'S JUST, IT'S A, YES, NO QUESTION. YOU EITHER GET THE POINTS OR YOU DON'T, UM, THERE'S ALSO QUESTIONS, LIKE, ARE YOU COLLABORATING WITH [02:10:01] A BIPAP, YOU KNOW, A PROMOTER OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR EVENT, ARE YOU, ARE YOU HIRING BY CO BIPAP TALENT FOR YOUR EVENT? YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE, YES, NO QUESTIONS. AND THEN YOU CAN UPLOAD, FOR EXAMPLE, AN A LETTER OF INTEREST OR AN AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT YES, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT FOR THE EVENT, YOU GET POINTS FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GET CERTAIN POINTS FOR THAT, OR YOU DON'T, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT. UM, SO IT'S JUST VERY CUT AND DRY FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE FOR ANYTHING THAT'S NOT, YES, NO QUESTION. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE, THERE'S SOME SYSTEM IN, AND UNDER THE PRIVATE RECOMMENDATIONS, THERE ARE LOTS OF OPTIONS FOR WHAT YOU CAN BE DOING, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF EVENTS AND IN TERMS OF WHAT TYPE OF EVENT LIKE, AND HOW THEY'RE FULFILLING THOSE REQUIREMENTS. LIKE, ARE THERE QUESTIONS THAT ARE NOT YES OR NO QUESTION? UM, THE QUESTIONS ARE REALLY MORE GEARED TOWARDS EITHER YOU ARE THIS OR YOU'RE DOING THIS OR YOU'RE NOT, AND THERE'S NO GREAT IN BETWEEN. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE QUESTIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE AUSTIN MUSIC, DISASTER RELIEF, AND STEPHANIE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT ASKS, YOU KNOW, WAGE INCOME, RIGHT? AND SO THOSE ARE KIND OF A GRADUATED, YOU KNOW, QUESTION, THAT KIND OF THING. IT'S NOT, YES, NO, THERE'S DIFFERENT CHOICES, BUT BASICALLY BY SETTING UP A MORE MULTIPLE CHOICE SYSTEM, YOU'RE NOT SUBMITTING ESSAYS THAT TALKS ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF MY EVENT AND ALL THE THINGS I'M GOING TO DO AND WHO ALL IS INVOLVED IN STUFF. IT'S REALLY MORE GETTING TO THE, TO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF PI AND, YOU KNOW, FIGURING OUT ARE YOU DOING THIS OR ARE YOU NOT INCLUDING THIS IN YOUR APPLICATION AND THEN EVIDENCING IT WITH DOCUMENTATION. AND THAT'S WHAT THE THIRD PARTY WILL DO. THEY'LL SCORE FOR THE YES, NO. AND THEY'LL CHECK THE DOCUMENTATION AND MAKE SURE IT'S CORRECT. STEPHANIE. I THINK KIMMY'S JUST GOING TO BE THE MICROPHONE. OKAY. WELL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE A DRAFT OF THAT. YEAH, WELL, SO WE HAVE THE GUIDELINES READY AND THE QUESTIONS ARE READY AND WE HAVE EVERY INTENT OF SHARING THE QUESTIONS WITH THE APPLICATION OPENING. SO IT'S LIKE AN OPEN BOOK TEST, JUST LIKE WITH THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE, PRESERVATION FUND AND PREVIOUS PROGRAMS. ALL OF THE QUESTIONS, EXACTLY WHAT WE'LL ASK YOU IS LISTED WHEN THE APPLICATION OPENS. SO YOU HAVE TIME TO GET YOUR MATERIALS TOGETHER, GET YOUR DOCUMENTATION TOGETHER. YOU BASICALLY KNOW YOUR SCORE WHEN YOU'RE DONE. AND I'M SORRY. I MEANT WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SEE THOSE TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON THEM? I CAN PROVIDE THAT. WERE THERE BUILDING OUT THE PORTAL SYSTEM RIGHT NOW? AND SOME OF, SOME OF THE LOGIC IS CHANGING SOME OF THE WORDS SLIGHTLY, WE'RE HAVING A BROWN BAG LUNCH TOMORROW TO HAVE A TOUR OF BOTH APPLICATIONS TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. SO WE COULD, AND I'LL TALK TO SYNOVIA ABOUT THIS TO SEE IF THERE'S A PREVIEW THAT'S POSSIBLE FOR A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS, BUT JUST TO, WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING UNTIL IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE DOESN'T CHANGE ANYMORE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO CAUSE ANY CONFUSION WITH QUESTIONS OUT THERE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE FINAL. SO, UM, IF THE COMMISSION WOULD ALLOW, ALLOW US, I THINK THEY DID, I'M TRYING TO STAY W MASK. UM, IF THE COMMISSION WOULD ALLOW US, LET ME TALK TO PURCHASING. I BELIEVE THE COMMISSION APPOINTED LAURA AND SCOTT AS OUR CONTACTS. SO LET ME HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM AND, UM, SEE AS THE REPRESENTATIVE, WHAT WE CAN SHOW YOU, UH, AND GO FROM THERE IS, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M OUT OF ORDER HERE. UM, BUT LET US CHECK ON THAT SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE QUESTIONS AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE. YEAH. BEFORE IT'S PUBLIC BEFORE, CAUSE THE THIRD PARTY WILL, THE SOLICITATION WON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL, BUT THE CONTRACT WILL, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE. THE QUESTIONS ARE, WHAT THE PORTAL LOOKS LIKE. SO WE JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT WE'RE IN THE RIGHT ORDER OF SHOW SHARING, SO THAT IT'S FAIR AND TRANSPARENT AS WE GO. UH, JUST LIKE HOW WE HAVE REVIEWED THE ELEMENT AND ALL THE CRITERIA AROUND IT. UM, YOU KNOW, MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO JUST, UH, UM, UH, SEE MAYBE A MORE DETAILED PRESENTATION ON THE THIRD-PARTY SOLICITATION AS TO WHAT IS THE CRITERIA THAT'S INVOLVED. SO EVERYBODY JUST UNDERSTANDS IT IN BIT MORE DETAIL. IS THAT A POSSIBILITY WE CAN GIVE, LIKE, IS THERE LIKE A JOB DESCRIPTION THAT PURCHASING COULD PROVIDE OR TYPICAL SHE'S ASKING LIKE WHAT QUALIFICATION? SO THEY HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT IS, WHAT THIRD PARTY WOULD BE PRIORITIZED BY PURCHASING. IS THERE LIKE A LIST OF QUALIFICATIONS BEFORE QUALIFICATIONS FROM PURCHASING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS? YEAH, ESSENTIALLY THE CRITERIA, [02:15:01] JUST LIKE HOW YOU'VE BEEN EVALUATING IT. CAN THAT BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION HERE? UM, I WILL CHECK ON THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT. SO WE COME BACK NEXT MONTH TO SHOW THAT THAT'S A DELAY OF A MONTH. RIGHT. SO IF WE COME BACK TO SHOW YOU THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER IT UNTIL AFTER YOU SEE IT. CORRECT. IS THAT WHAT I THAT'S WHAT I'M THAT'S THE, YEAH, I LIKE TO IMPROVE IT. I WOULD, WE WOULD RATHER JUST GET ALL YOUR FEEDBACK NOW. LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF, EVEN IF IT'S CRAZY. SO, SO HOW DO I, HOW DO I DO THAT? IF I DON'T KNOW THE ENTIRE CRITERIA THAT'S BEING USED TO EVALUATE THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR WE'RE JUST PROVIDING THE RFP IS WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE DETAIL CRITERIA AROUND THAT? SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT, YEAH, LET ME CHECK WITH PURCHASING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO OVERSELL. I DON'T WANT TO OVERLOOK. UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. AND, AND, AND I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE, UH, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, SOME COMFORT AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE CRITERIA THAT'S BEEN USED AND THAT WOULD, THAT MIGHT ALLEVIATE SOME OF, UH, SOME CONCERN AROUND, YOU KNOW, GETTING USED TO THIS THIRD PARTY AND JUST PROVIDE MORE TRANSPARENCY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'LL WORK ON THAT NAGA VALLEY AND GET AS MUCH INFORMATION TO YOU AS, AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO TRY TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION FROM YOU, GET YOU INFORMED AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THE SOLICITATION SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT A MONTH BECAUSE THEN AT THE HOLIDAYS THAT WILL PUSH THIS TIMELINE BY MORE THAN A MONTH IF WE WAIT FOR THE NEXT MUSIC. WELL, FORTUNATELY, ACTUALLY OUR NEXT MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING IS JUST IN THREE WEEKS BECAUSE OF THE LABOR DAY HOLIDAY. UM, CHUCK AND MAURA ON BOTH HAD GOOD QUESTIONS THAT I SORTA KNOW THAT I HAVE A, MAYBE ANSWERED TO ONE. AND I DO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE OTHER SO ABOUT IN TERMS OF, UM, LIKE A TWO PART, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPANT COMING BACK WITH THE TWO POSSIBILITIES. UM, I DO THINK THAT IT'S, IN SOME CASES, PURCHASING CAN PRESENT TWO OPTIONS TO COUNCIL OR A FIRST AND PLACE SECOND RUNNER UP. BUT THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I HAVE, I GUESS, FOR A CITY LEGAL OR FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO GET MORE CLARIFICATION ON. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, LAUREN BRINGS UP THE, AND I MEAN, WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS. I MEAN, IT IS VERY, THE PROGRAM IS VERY NUANCED, YOU KNOW, DEALS WITH THIS SPECIFIC POPULATION. AND SO WE DO DEFINITELY WANT TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON THAT, THAT RFP, BUT I THINK AS A BODY, WE NEED TO HAVE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO DO THAT. UM, AND THREE WEEKS MIGHT BE JUST ABOUT, RIGHT. SO I MEAN, AS MUCH AS I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE TO DELAY ANYTHING, I JUST, I WOULD FEEL BETTER IF WE MOVED THIS DISCUSSION INTO OUR NEXT MEETING. UH, JUST SO WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE MORE CLARITY AND SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE PURCHASING WITH SOME SPECIFICS. AND, UM, SO I GUESS I, I'M NOT SURE IF THE BEST WAY TO WRITE UP THE SPECIFICS IS TO FORM LIKE JUST A VERY TEMPORARY WORKING GROUP THAT WE COULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER'S INTERESTED IN DOING THAT. WE COULD PROBABLY KNOCK IT OUT IN A COUPLE OF HOURS. SO, UM, I THINK I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FORM A WORKING GROUP TO DEVELOP, UM, GUIDELINES FOR THE RFP, FOR THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR. SECOND, I GUESS I WANT A FAVOR. ARE WE TALKING, UH, ABOUT LIVE MUSIC FUND THIRD-PARTY RIGHT NOW? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK IT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME ILLUSTRATOR DISASTER, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE JUST A AND I THINK THAT'S FINE. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S EFFICIENT TO, UM, PUT THOSE TWO TOGETHER, BUT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND IS THE ONE THAT PLEASE TO DEFEAT THE MOTION. SORRY, I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH IT. SO I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT WE FORM A WORKING GROUP TO DEVELOP, UM, GUIDELINES FOR THE RFP TO PROVIDE. LET ME START AGAIN. I GOT IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. OKAY. SO I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT THE, WE, THE MUSIC COMMISSION FORMS A WORKING GROUP TO DEVELOP GUIDELINES FOR THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, FOR THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND THE DISASTER RELIEF FUND. SO-SO I JUST HAVE A QUICK, AM I ALLOWED TO COMMENT ON THAT? WHAT WOULD IT, WOULD IT HELP US TO SEE WHAT THE CRITERIA IS FOR BEFORE [02:20:01] FORMING A WORKING GROUP TO NOW ESTABLISH NEW CRITERIA FOR THE RFP? I MEAN, CAN WE SEE WHAT THE EXISTING CRITERIA IS OR, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE APPLIED? SO IF YOU DO, YOU CAN PROVIDE THAT. I MEAN, THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD HELP THE WORKING GROUP QUICKLY CRANK OUT THOSE GUIDELINES. THEN WE COULD DISCUSS THEM IN THE NEXT MEETING AND THEN APPROVE THIS. UM, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD WITH THE DISASTER RELIEF PORTION OF IT AND HOLD BACK ON DECIDING ON THE THIRD PARTY FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND PORTION OF IT, OR HOLD BACK ON THAT PART, BUT THAT WOULD BE TWO SEPARATE SOLICITATIONS. YOU JUST GOT CAUTIONED ABOUT PURCHASING EARLY ON. ANOTHER ISSUE DO NOT DO SERIAL, PURCHASING IT, SPEAK TO SEPARATE SOLICITATIONS WHEN GO OUT FOR THE, FOR THE, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING AND PURCHASING DOES NOT WANT THAT. THEY WANT TO SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD MAKE NO SENSE FROM A TAXPAYER PERSPECTIVE OF GOOD OF HOW WE SPEND THE MONEY. JUST SPEND IT TWICE FOR THE SAME THING IN A WAY. THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO COMBINE IT. AND PURCHASING ALSO WILL NOT LET US DO A SEPARATE SOLICITATION. THAT'S ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THIS ONE. SO THE BEST THING WOULD PROBABLY BE TO KEEP THEM TOGETHER. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE THING I WAS WORRIED ABOUT WITH LIKE THESE TWO THINGS BEING COMBINED BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT AND IT, IT, TO ME, IT'S A NO-BRAINER TO GO FORWARD WITH THE DISASTER RELIEF PROGRAM. AND THAT NEEDS TO BE NOT THAT NEEDS TO NOT BE DELAYED BECAUSE IT'S DISASTER RELIEF, BUT I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO FEEL CONFIDENT ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE LIVE MUSIC FUND PIECE YET. SO HAVING THEM TOGETHER MAKES IT, MAKES IT DIFFICULT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THAT EMOTION. I I'D LIKE TO MAKE, AT LEAST TRY TO HAVE A BIT OF A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF DELAY AND OUR ROLE VERSUS THE STAFF'S ROLE. UM, WHILE I RECOGNIZE ALL THESE CONCERNS AND I FEEL LIKE WE WILL NEVER BE AS FULLY INFORMED AS THE STAFF OR, UH, UH, BECAUSE, BUT THAT'S THE PROBLEM. ISN'T, THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE NOT AS INFORMATIVE. UH, NO MEANING THAT THEY'RE PAID EVERY SINGLE DAY THROUGH THE WHOLE YEAR TO WORK ON THIS. AND SO FOR THEM TO CATCH US UP ON EVERY SINGLE THING THEY DID FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH, IT'S, WE'RE JUST NOT EMBEDDED IN QUITE THE SAME WAY. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE THOUGH. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE THOUGH. YES. AND I DON'T, I FEEL LIKE THEY ARE EXTREMELY RESPONSIVE TO OUR FEEDBACK. I'D FEEL LIKE THEY ARE VERY OPEN ABOUT WHAT WE DO WHENEVER WE REACH OUT, WE HAVE ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS OR WHATEVER KIND OF FOLLOW UP. AND, UM, BUT IT, IT, IT IS OUR JOB TO ADVISE AND GUIDE AND REPRESENT THE VOTED, UH, SIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT. BUT THEN THEY'LL LET THE STAFF DO THEIR JOB AND HAVE ALSO A DEGREE OF TRUST IN THAT. ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF RESPONSE THEY THEY'VE GIVEN TO, UH, THE GUIDANCE WE'VE GIVEN THEM. AND THIS IS DISASTER REALLY FUN AND PUSHING THAT TO POTENTIALLY PASS THE HOLIDAYS, CEASES TO FULFILL THAT, AND THEN LIVE MUSIC. BOND IS A PILOT PROGRAM IN, IS GOING TO BE FLAWED SOMEHOW IN UNPREDICTABLE WAYS, NO MATTER HOW MANY ANGLES, WE LOOK AT IT IN A WAY THAT THE SOONER TO ME, THE SOONER WE GET IT ON ITS FEET, THE SOONER WE'LL BE ABLE TO START A VALUATING THAT AND MAKING THE BEST USE OF THOSE FUNDS. SO I'M JUST EXPRESSING MY CONCERN ABOUT DELAYING ANY FURTHER. SORRY. SO, NO, YEAH. I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SHARED OVER EMAIL COMMUNICATION OR THE, DOES THIS HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT MEETING? I'M, I'M ACTUALLY TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE DEPUTY PURCHASING OFFICER RIGHT NOW. UM, BECAUSE I, THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE AND I DON'T WANT TO VIOLATE OR COMMIT TO SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T SHARE WITH YOU. AND IN ALL MY YEARS, I'VE NEVER, WE GET HIGH LEVEL CONCEPTS FROM COMMISSIONS, BUT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT OVER-COMMITTING SO, UM, WE CAN COME BACK IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION. UM, AND IF I GET MORE INFORMATION THAT THE CONCERN IS WHEN I SEND IT OUT [02:25:01] TO YOU, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A WALKING QUORUM, EITHER PROVIDING FEEDBACK OUTSIDE OF A PUBLIC MEETING, UM, WHICH IS ANOTHER CONCERN. SO, UM, IF YOU FORMED A WORKING GROUP AND HOPEFULLY BACK TOMORROW, I WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION. AND IF IT'S YOUR WILL TO COME BACK, IF I CAN SHARE AND BRING THINGS BACK OR WITH THE WORKING GROUP, UH, JUST GIVING ME THAT DIRECTION TO WORK WITH THE WORKING GROUP, OR YOU WANT ME TO BRING EVERYTHING BACK? YEAH, BECAUSE WE COULD, UH, WE COULD WORK WITH THE WORKING GROUP ON ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS IN THE NEXT WEEK, WEEK AND A HALF. AND, AND THE COMMISSION WOULD JUST HAVE TO TRUST THE WORKING GROUP, YOU KNOW, TO ON THEIR INSIGHT OF WHAT INFORMATION WE WERE PROVIDING THEM OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE IF WE DON'T WANT TO COME BACK. BECAUSE MY CONCERN IS ALSO IS JUST THE HOLIDAYS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S THREE WEEKS, IT'S THREE WEEKS ADDITIONAL, WHICH GOES INTO JANUARY, CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A TIGHT TIMELINE AND THIS IS JUST ME KNOWING, CAUSE I KNOW THE TIMELINE. SO THAT'S JUST MY ONLY CONCERN FOR COMMUNITY. SO, SO THE BEST RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW IS TO, FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION, BUT NOT DELAY THINGS, YOU KNOW, TOO FAR. UM, YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT THE WORKING GROUP WOULD BE THE BEST ROUTE TO TAKE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A QUORUM. IT'S JUST LIKE MAYBE THREE OR FOUR OF YOU. AND THEN YOU GUYS DO THIS QUICK, THIS WORK WITH US QUICKLY WITHOUT A QUORUM. MY CONCERN IS THAT THIS ROLLOUT OF THE NEXT FUND IS SOMEWHAT ANALOGOUS TO THE WAY IT ROLLED OUT BEFORE I KNOW EVERYTHING'S TURNKEY. I KNOW THAT EVERYTHING'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, LIKE IT'S KIND OF FULL-PROOF WE HAVE THIS WHOLE SYSTEM AND IT'S INTEGRATED IN WITH THE CITY AND THE VENDOR SYSTEM AND ALL THAT STUFF SEEMS PERFECT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE PROBLEM. AND THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL HAVE NOT DONE AN INCREDIBLE AND AMAZING JOB ON THIS. MY PHILOSOPHY RIGHT NOW IS TO MEASURE TWICE CUT ONCE. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. THERE IS A PANDEMIC, THE DELTA VARIANT IS GETTING SERIOUS. NOW THE SUPREME COURT JUST UPHELD EVICTION, MORATORIUMS, UNEMPLOYMENT HAS EXPIRED AND GIGS ARE GETTING CANCELED. SO IF WE CANNOT GET THIS MONEY OUT TO THESE MUSICIANS THE RIGHT WAY, THEN THIS MEETING AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING HERE, AS FAR AS THIS GOES IS FOR NOTHING. I AM GOING TO MOVE THAT THIS BODY RECOMMEND THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS TO WORK WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. I AM MOVING THAT NOW, DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? I FELT LIKE JERRY MCGUIRE HOLDING THE FISH RIGHT NOW, WHO'S COMING WITH ME. YEP. KIM WAS GOING TO MAKE A POINT ABOUT THE WORKING GROUP, THIS POINT ORDER. UM, SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A WORKING GROUP THAT'S GOING TO GO AND, AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON SOMETHING. THE WORKING GROUP NEEDS TO COME BACK AND REPORT TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO THE STAFF. SO THE, THE WORKING GROUP NEEDS TO REPORT TO THE COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION THEN ACCEPTS IT OR DOESN'T ACCEPT IT. AND THEN THE STAFF CAN, CAN PUT THAT FORWARD, BUT IT'S, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO MEET TO DO THAT. CORRECT? I WASN'T REFERRING TO A WORKING GROUP. UM, I MEAN, AFTER HEARING WHAT NAGA VALLEY HAD TO SAY, I'M KIND OF, UM, I MEAN, WE, WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH. I DON'T EVEN THINK TO HAVE, OR ANSWER THE RIGHT QUESTION OR ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS IN A WORKING GROUP. THERE'S THIS REALLY COOL SAYING, I'LL FIND THE RIGHT QUESTIONS WHEN I KNOW WHAT TO ASK. AND I FEEL LIKE I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS TO ASK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I MEAN, WE KEEP REFERRING BACK TO PURCHASING AND PURCHASING ISN'T HERE, BUT PURCHASING IS KIND OF WHO DOES ALL THE STUFF THAT'S RECOMMENDED THROUGH CITY COUNCIL AND THROUGH EDD AND ALL THAT STUFF. AM I, AM, AM I MAKING SENSE? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I JUST, UM, I FEEL LIKE IF WE JUST HAD, YOU KNOW, MORE INFORMATION, UM, AND YES, A WORKING GROUP COULD DO THAT, BUT PERHAPS, UM, MAYBE SOMEONE FROM PURCHASING CAN COME IN. IT'S AN, IT'S ONLY IN THREE WEEKS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST TALKING A FEW WEEKS OF TIME TO, TO REALLY GET THIS THING THE WAY IT NEEDS TO, FOR US TO JUST HAVE ANOTHER LITTLE PRESENTATION ABOUT THIS AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. COMMISSIONERS. I DEEPLY APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT YOU DO HAVE A 15 MINUTE TIME CHECK AND THIS ROOM, THIS IS YOU HAVE A HARD STOP [02:30:01] AT NINE 30, JUST ADDS UP. SO WHAT I CAN DO IS WE CAN BRING OUR CORRECTION. WE HAVE DRAFTED THE RFP THAT PURCHASING WILL EXECUTE. WE CAN BRING THAT TO YOU AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK, BUT UNDERSTAND AT THE END OF THE DAY, STAFF MAKES THE FINAL DECISION. I WAS JUST ON THE PHONE WITH THE DEPUTY PURCHASING OFFICER. SO IF YOU WANT US TO SEPARATE THE LIVE, THE EMERGENCY FUNDS AND THEN BRING BACK, WE CAN SEND OUT IN ADVANCE. SO YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK. AND WHEN WE COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING, GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK AND THEN WE CAN GO OUT, BUT I CAN SHARE, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, STAFF WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. NO PROBLEM. SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW THE, THE WILLOW, THE COMMISSION, YOU'RE SAYING WE CAN SEPARATE THE EMERGENCY FUNDS FROM PRODUCTION. IF THAT IS YOUR DESIRE. I MEAN, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT JUST KNOW, UM, WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN DO, THAT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM THAT APPLICANTS WILL BE APPLYING. YOU'RE PUTTING A BURDEN ON THE APPLICANTS TO DO TWO APPLICATIONS, TO POTENTIAL SEPARATE SYSTEMS AND REDOING THE THAT WE WERE JUST TRYING TO STREAMLINE IT BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD TOO, BASED ON PREVIOUS PROGRAMS IS WHY IS IT THIS DIFFICULT? WHY ARE YOU ASKING THE SAME QUESTION TWICE FOR THIS TOO? YOU KNOW, WE WERE TRYING TO STREAM ALL LINE ALL. IS THAT A, IS THERE A WAY TO KEEP IT STREAMLINED, BUT, BUT TO APPROVE THE DISASTER RELIEF PORTION OF IT WHILE WE HAVE SOME MORE TIME TO, YOU KNOW, COALESCE AROUND BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD VOTE FOR YES FOR ANNE CHARLOTTE'S MOTION. THAT WAS SECONDED EARLIER, EXCEPT I, MY ONLY HESITATION WAS TO DELAY ON THE DISASTER RELIEF PART OF IT. SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON WHY I WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION, FOLLOWING YOUR MOTION. I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANOTHER BURDEN ON THE APPLICANTS, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, I WANT TO FIND THAT COMPROMISE BETWEEN GETTING THAT DISASTER RELIEF FUND OUT AND HAVING, BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. AND I THINK THE OTHER THING TOO IS, I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY SELMA, BUT ONE TO LIKE RENT OUT EMOS ON A FRIDAY NIGHT AND PAY $6,000 TO DO THAT WHILE THEY'RE ALSO APPLYING FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RELIEF FUND TO PAY THEIR RENT. LIKE, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S TWO. I MEAN, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS THERE. THAT PART IS SEPARATED OUT IN THE CONTRACT WITH THE GUIDELINES. THIS IS JUST ABOUT THE PROCESSES. SURE. SO DO WE HAVE, UH, SOME SUGGESTIONS AS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW TO MOVE FORWARD? BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE CLEAR ON THE ISSUES WE, AND MAYBE WE SHOULD CLEAR UP ALL THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE NEED ANSWERED RIGHT NOW. UM, IF WE COULD GET SOMEONE TO TAKE NOTES ON ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. SO CAN WE DO THAT AND THEN MAKE A DECISION AS TO HOW TO ANSWER THOSE, THOSE QUESTIONS? CAN WE DO THAT? SO WE HAVE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR WHERE THE WORKING GROUP THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DELAY THINGS. I MEAN, ERIC HAS MADE A SUGGESTION FOR HOW WE COULD FAST TRACK THAT. SO I THINK, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. SO WE MIGHT FIRST JUST PROCEDURALLY LIKE TAKE A VOTE ON WHETHER WE WANT TO DO A WORK IN GRID TO WRITE UP RECOMMENDATIONS. I JUST WANT TO, BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT THE WORKING GROUP IS GOING TO NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL BEFORE. CAN, CAN WE GET THAT ON THE TABLE REAL QUICK? IS THAT POSSIBLE? AND AS KIM JUST MENTIONED, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO A COMMISSION MEETING BEFORE YOU CAN ACT ON WHAT THEY RECOMMEND. SO REGARDLESS IT WILL PUSH IT BACK, BUT THAT'S FINE. IF IT PUSHES IT BACK, I'D RATHER DO IT RIGHT TO MAKE SURE ALL QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED, YOU KNOW, AND, AND DO IT RIGHT. WHERE AT WHERE COMMUNITY IS, FEELS LIKE ALL THE ANSWERS ARE THERE, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SHARE A DRAFT ESTABLISHED DRAFT FOR RFPS FOR THIRD PARTY PRIOR TO THE COMMISSION MEETING? SO WE CAN REVIEW AND COME BACK WITH QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK? YES, WE CAN GET THAT OUT. TODAY'S MONDAY, LET US GET IT OUT TO YOU BY THURSDAY. AND THERE WERE SOME CHANGES I HAD TO LET ME AT LEAST GET THOSE IN THERE, SOME IDEAS AND WE'LL GET THEM OUT THURSDAY. AND AGAIN, I KNOW THE PAIN OUT THERE, AND SO WE WERE TRYING TO BE EFFICIENT, BUT WE ARE HERE TO HEAR YOUR CONCERNS AND TRY TO EXECUTE THE [02:35:01] BEST PROGRAM POSSIBLE. OKAY. CAUSE I'VE ALREADY HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND I DON'T WANT THE COMMUNITY TO THINK WE'RE TRYING TO, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING. WE WANT TO DO WHAT THE COMMUNITY FEELS, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE LAW. AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WILL MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. SO WE CAN GET THOSE GUIDELINES OUT TO YOU. IF THE WORKING GROUP DAN WANTS TO GET TOGETHER TO BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE'RE GOOD TO GO, BUT JUST KNOW THAT IN OCTOBER AND THEN DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU HAVE, THEN WE'LL HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE APP FOR, YEAH, IT'S A SLIGHT DELAY AND WE CAN COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO GET IT. RIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, BUT I'VE GOT WRITTEN DOWN, I'VE GOT THREE THINGS. UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THE WORKING GROUP COULD BE DISCUSSING IN THAT IS A RFP FOR THE THIRD PARTY, LOOKING AT THAT, DISCUSSING THAT, UM, THE POSSIBILITY OF SEPARATING THE FUNDS INTO TWO SEPARATE FUNDS. UM, NOT NECESSARILY HAVING ONE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THEN, UM, UH, QUESTIONS LIKE THE ACTUAL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICATION FOR THE LOUD MUSIC FUND, THE, THE MULTIPLE CHOICE, UM, QUESTIONS, UM, LOOKING AT THOSE AND GIVING FEEDBACK ON THAT. UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER, UM, THINGS ON THE TABLE FOR THAT WORKING GROUP? OKAY. UM, SO I THINK WITH THAT, UM, UM, I THINK I'M PERSONALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH, UM, IS DIFFICULT AS IT IS, UH, TAKING, TAKING THE THREE WEEKS, UM, AND, UM, PUTTING THIS WORK IN GROUP TOGETHER AND, AND, AND, AND HASHING THIS OUT. UM, THAT'S WHERE I'M PERSONALLY AT, BUT LET'S, LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON IT. OH, YOU REPEAT THE MOTION JUST FOR CLARITY OR DO I DO IT? YEAH. OKAY. SO ALL IN FAVOR OF FORMING A WORKING GROUP, WE HAD A SECOND, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. ON THE FAVOR, I KEEP YOUR HANDS UP. OKAY. OPPOSE YOU HAD A DOCUMENT CAM. SO DO WE HAVE FOLKS THAT WANT TO JOIN NETWORKING GROUP COMING BECAUSE ONE OF THE WORKING GROUP, UM, I THINK I'LL JOIN Y'ALL AS WELL. LOOK AT THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S IT. UM, SO ONE MORE TIME, WHO ARE THOSE MEMBERS WHO ARE, UH, UM, LAUREN SCOTT, MYSELF AND, AND CHARLOTTE. THANK YOU. SO THOSE, UH, THOSE THREE THINGS, THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, UM, FOR THE THIRD PARTY, THE SEPARATING, THE TWO FUNDS AND THE QUESTIONS ON THE LIVE MUSIC FUND. THOSE WILL BE THINGS WHERE WE, WE TALK ABOUT IT. HOPEFULLY WE HAVE THIS FIGURED OUT BY THE NEXT MEETING AND WE CAN TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THAT AND GET A VOTE ON IT AND GET THIS MONEY OUT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, TIME-WISE WE GET SEVEN MINUTES, UM, ALL EMOTIONAL. WE PUSH THE NEXT TO, TO THE NEXT MEETING. ALRIGHTY. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR OPPOSED MOTION PASSES. UM, I DON'T KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE REALLY TIME, BUT I CAN JUST QUICKLY TALK ABOUT THIS. UM, TWO, TWO D UM, THE CONTRACT ROUGH OUTLINE THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER WITH A SYSTEMIC RACISM WORKING GROUP. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEVELOPING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CITY KIND OF, UH, DO A PILOT WITH. WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY, UM, HOW TO SET THIS UP AND HAVE IT LIVE ACTUALLY ONLINE. BUT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS START TO GET SOME DATA. THE, AS WE KNOW, THE VENUES HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, INCREASING THEIR DIVERSITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THEIR LINEUPS AND THEIR STAFF AND EVERYTHING HAS MORE OF A REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTATION OF UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS. AND THIS CONTRACT IS PARTIALLY ABOUT COLLECTING SOME DATA ABOUT WHO THEY'RE HIRING AS [02:40:01] PERFORMING, PERFORMING ARTISTS, BUT ALSO, UM, HAVING A STANDARDIZED CONTRACT. SO ARTISTS KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN THEY'RE GOING INTO RELATIONSHIP WITH THE VENUE. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THIS IS, BUT THIS HOUR, THIS IS THE NEXT THING. OKAY. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY, WE CAN, WE CAN, I THINK WE CAN BRING THIS TO THE NEXT TO THE NEXT MINUTE, BUT PLEASE CHECK IT OUT. IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, EMAIL, EMAIL ME, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THREE EIGHT QUICKLY, UH, OPEN MIKE AND ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES BEFORE I'M RICHARD RICE. I'VE BEEN HONORED TO BE AN ARCHITECT AND MUSICIAN IN AUSTIN, TEXAS FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS. AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN REOPENING THE AUSTIN OPERA HOUSE IN ITS ORIGINAL LOCATION. THAT 200 ACADEMY YOU'RE ON MUTE. OKAY. DO I HAVE TO KEEP MY FINGER ON IT? OKAY. OR I CAN JUST PROJECT. SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, 200 ACADEMY HAS A LONG HISTORY OF BEING A PART OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMUNITY. SORRY, NEXT SLIDE. YES. IN, AND IF YOU CAN GO TO FULL SCREEN, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IN 1957, THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS AT THE FOOTHILLS OF TRAVIS HEIGHTS. AND IN THE IMAGINE AUSTIN REGIONAL GROWTH CENTER WAS THE TERRORIST MOTOR COURT BACK IN THE SIXTIES, THE BUILDING WHERE THE OPERA HOUSE WAS AND STILL SITS ON THE BILL ON THE, ON THE LOT WAS THE BALLROOM AND RESTAURANT FOR THE TERRORIST MOTOR COURT AND BOBBY NELSON, WILLIE NELSON SISTER PLAYED THERE EVERY SATURDAY NIGHT IN 1974. IT BECAME THE TEXAS OPERA HOUSE AND HAD ARTISTS LIKE RAY, CHARLES, TINA TURNER, WAYLON JENNINGS RECORDED A PLATINUM LIVE ALBUM THERE IN 1977. WILLIE NELSON BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND OPENED THE AUSTIN OPERA HOUSE, WHICH BECAME THE AUSTIN OPERA HOUSE IN 1979. AND THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF SHOWS THERE FROM 79 TO 92 AND INCREDIBLY DIVERSE ROSTER. BUT IN 1986, THE SAME YEAR, STEVIE RAY VAUGHN RECORDED LIVE ALIVE THERE, WHICH WAS A PLATINUM SELLING ALBUM. THE FAIRVIEW PARK NCCD WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AS IT RELATES TO THIS PROPERTY, IT BASICALLY FROZE DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS IS A PICTURE FROM 1977. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT MAP, NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS THE CURRENT CONDITION. EVERYTHING TO THE WEST HAS DEVELOPED TO UP BETWEEN 60 AND 80 FEET TALL, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS STAYED THE SAME. THIS PROPERTY, WHICH WAS CONSIDERED PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVERLAY WAS INCREDIBLY RESTRICTED BY THE OVERLAY AND BASICALLY CAN BE NOTHING BUT A SURFACE PARKING LOT IN A TWO STORY BUILDING. NOW THAT IS THE BUILDING WHERE THE OPERA HOUSE WAS. WE'RE ASKING AS PART OF OUR ZONING HEARING TOMORROW TO REMOVE THE RESTRICTIONS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE LIVE MUSIC. THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY SITS ON MUSIC LANE AND WAS NAMED FOR THE OPERA HOUSE. HOWEVER, MUSIC MUSIC IS RESTRICTED TO EVERYWHERE ON MUSIC LANE. CURRENTLY THE OPERA HOUSE STAGE IS STILL IN THE BUILDING. AND SINCE THE ONLY USE THAT'S ALLOWED IN THAT BUILDING NOW IS LIGHT OFFICE. THEY'VE BUILT MAKESHIFT CONFERENCE ROOMS ON TOP OF THAT STAGE WITH NAMES LIKE STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN AND WILLIE NELSON, THERE IS NO GREATER METAPHOR FOR THE CRISIS THAT WE'RE FACING FOR LIVE MUSIC IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN THAN THAT. I THINK THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY. WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT FOR REOPENING THE AUSTIN OPERA HOUSE. SO YOU GUYS ARE GOING BEFORE A PLANNING COMMISSION TOMORROW NIGHT. UM, AND IS THIS WHERE ARLENE IS? YES, CORRECT. IT IS WHERE OUR LIN IS FREDDIE FLETCHER WHO OWNS IRELAND IS WILLIE NELSON'S NEPHEW AND BOBBY NELSON'S SON. AND HE IS INTEGRAL IN OUR PLAN TO REOPEN THE OPERA HOUSE. AND WHAT FORM OF SUPPORT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR EMOTION OF SUPPORT, JUST, JUST TO VOTE MY EMOTION THAT WE SUPPORT SECOND, ANY QUESTIONS? PLENTY OF QUESTIONS. BUT I THINK WE'RE OUT OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS, THERE WAS SOME FEEDBACK THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE CHAIR PRIOR TO THE MEETING TO BREAK BACK. OH YEAH. DO WE HAVE TIME FOR THAT? I THINK WE CAN DO THREE MINUTES REALLY. OKAY. UM, YEAH. SO THIS IS A STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ISSUE. I'M JUST GOING TO READ IT, UM, TRACT ONE [02:45:01] TO COMMERCIAL. I HAVEN'T READ THIS BEFORE. SO THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO SOUND LIKE WHATEVER IT'S GOING TO SOUND LIKE A ATTRACT ONE TO COMMERCIAL LIQUOR SALES AND MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION, COMBINING DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING INTO AMEND THE NCCD SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND PERMITTED AND CONDITIONAL LAND USES TRACK TWO TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL SERVICES MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION, COMBINING DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING INTO A MEN NCCD SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND PERMITTED AND CONDITIONAL LAND USES TRACK THREE TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS, MODERATE HIGH DENSITY, NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION, COMBINING DISTRICT NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, COMBINING DISTRICT ZONING TO AMEND THE NCCD SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT RC. THAT INCLUDES ALL RECOMMENDATIONS LISTED IN THE TRANSPORTATION MITIGATION MEMO DATED MAY 21ST, 2021 BASIS OF RECOMMENDATION. THE FAIRVIEW PARK NCC CD WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL IN 1986 SINCE ITS CREATION PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE BOUNDARY OR REZONE TO ALLOW FOR A CHANGE IN ENTITLEMENTS, BUT NO PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE BOUNDARY REZONING THIS SITE TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL AND TITLE ENTITLEMENTS AND LAND USES WHILE KEEPING IT WITHIN THE EXISTING NCCD BOUNDARY WOULD BE, WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH PAST TREATMENT OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THIS ANNECY CD TRACKS ONE AND TWO OF THIS PROPERTY ARE SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIALS BASED ZONING DISTRICTS, ALLOWING FOR AN INCREASE IN SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND PERMITTED LAND USES WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ADJACENT ZONING PATTERN TRACK. THREE'S CURRENT ZONING IS MOSTLY AS MOST CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT, ALLOWING FOR THE EQUIVALENT OF M THREE ZONING ON THIS TRACK WOULD STILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE FAMILY USE USES AND PROVIDE A TRANSITION AND LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY FROM SOUTH CONGRESS TO MELISSA LANE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT ALL THAT MEANS I CAN BRIEFLY INTERPRET. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE EXISTING ZONING ON THE PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE. THE OPERA HOUSE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ALLOWED TO SIT ON ON THE PROPERTY AND RESIDENTIAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN ALLOWED ON THE STRETCH OF LAND THAT FACES MELISSA. HOWEVER, IN 1986, WHEN THIS OVERLAY WAS PLACED ON THE PROPERTY, THE OVERLAY RESTRICTIONS WERE GREATER THAN THAT ONE SINGLE BUILDING AND PARKING LOT THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH MEANS THAT THE PROPERTY CAN'T DEVELOP AT ALL, ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO REMOVE THE OVERLAY. BUT WHAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY ASKING FROM YOU IS JUST SUPPORT TO BRING THE OPERA HOUSE BACK TO 200 ACADEMY. THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND. SORRY. I WAS ON THE DESIGN COMMISSION FOR 10 YEARS. WE ASKED, CAN WE, SORRY, CAN WE ASK YOU A SECOND TO THAT FIRST MOTION JUST TO KEEPING AN EYE ON IT? THANKS, RICHARD. I HAVE A QUESTION OUT. SO AFTER YOU GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION, THEN THIS WOULD GO TO COUNSEL. CORRECT. SO, UM, THEN THERE WOULD BE, AND THERE WOULD BE THREE READINGS, CORRECT? CORRECT. AT COUNCIL. OKAY. UM, I'M NOT, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I'M NOT. SO FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT GONNA VOTE TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO ABSTAIN FOR THE SMELL JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. ALTHOUGH, I MEAN, I, I READ THE ARTICLE THAT YOU SENT IN THE HISTORY. I HAVE COMPLETE APPRECIATION FOR THAT. UM, WHAT I FEEL LIKE I KNOW ABOUT PLANNING COMMISSION IS THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA SUPPORT THIS. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION. THAT'S JUST AN EDITORIAL YOU GUYS. SO WHAT ARE, THEY MAY NOT CARE? WHAT PLANNING COMMISSION MAY NOT CARE? WHAT MUSIC COMMISSION HAS TO SAY IS WHAT I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST. BUT, UM, SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT ON IT. LIKE IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO OTHER PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TONIGHT, THERE MAY BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO COME BACK FOR SUPPORT FROM US. SO WE HAVE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. I'M CHOOSING THOSE STAIN AS WELL. I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. WELL, THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. I KNOW WE'RE OUT OF TIME AND MOTION TO ADJOURN BEFORE WE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT. UM, IT'S BEEN, UH, AN EVENTFUL FEW YEARS FOR ME AS PART OF THE MUSIC COMMISSION. UM, AND I'D LIKE TO JUST LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO BE STEPPING DOWN AS CHAIR. UM, AND I'D LIKE FOR US TO VOTE ON THAT IN NOVEMBER, UM, OCTOBER WILL BE MY LAST TIME AS CHAIR. I PLAN ON STAYING ON THE MUSIC COMMISSION, BUT, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOW, BUT I'M HAVING A BABY SOON. AND, UM, [02:50:02] YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO SIT IN THIS POSITION AND TO, TO REALLY LEAD, I THINK SOME IMPORTANT HISTORIC CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING IN THE CITY THAT'LL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. I HAVE NO PLAN ON STEPPING DOWN FROM THE MUSIC COMMISSION, BUT, UM, THE CIVIC LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT IS INTENSE AND, UH, I NEED TO TAKE SOME OF MY LIFE BACK. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I WILL BE STEPPING DOWN AS CHAIR AFTER OCTOBER, OCTOBER MEETING SO WE CAN VOTE IN NOVEMBER. I ENCOURAGED, YOU KNOW, SOME NEW VOICES HERE TO STEP UP AND, YOU KNOW, UH, POSSIBLY TAKE A LEADERSHIP POSITION. UM, VERY HIGHLY, HIGHLY CONFIDENT, UM, IN THIS VICE CHAIR THAT'S OVER HERE. UM, SHE'S BEEN DOING A LOT OF GREAT WORK, SO WHOEVER'S GOING TO BE, UM, VERY, UM, EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK THIS MUSIC COMMISSION HAS CHANGED A LOT SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AS WELL. SO I JUST WANT TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT, UM, UH, IT'S BEEN MY HONOR TO SERVE AS CHAIR. UM, OCTOBER WILL BE MY LAST OFFICIAL DAY AS CHAIR, BUT I'LL STILL BE HERE WITH Y'ALL MAKING DECISIONS AND STUFF. SO THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. A MOTION TO ADJOURN WAS, WAS GIVEN BY MR. RENTALS ANY SECOND ON IT. SECOND. OKAY. MEETING IS A GIANT. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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