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THE REPORT? GREAT.[Independent Citizen's Redistricting Commission]
OUT OF 14 COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE INDEPENDENT CITIZENS REDISTRICTING COMMISSION MEETINGS, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15.
UM, I'M LOOKING ON OUR, UH, COMPUTER SCREEN AND I SEE COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL AS WELL.
SO LET ME CORRECT THAT WE HAVE 12 OUT OF 14 COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.
MATT, CAN YOU PLEASE DO VOCAL? OKAY.
DON'T FORGET TO TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONE WHEN IT'S ON.
AND CAN YOU TAKE US THROUGH TODAY'S AGENDA? OKAY.
SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2021, INDEPENDENT CITIZENS, REDISTRICTING COMMISSION, THE MEETING GOALS, DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL OF MAPS PRESENTED RECEIVE UPDATES FROM WORKING GROUPS AND SUBCOMMITTEES CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS SIGNED UP AND SPEAK SOME ITEM ONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 8TH MEETING ITEM TWO NEW BUSINESS.
THE ICRC MAY DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS, A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF DRAFT MAP CREATED BETWEEN FORMAL NAACP, HISPANIC COALITION TO BE DISCUSSION OF DRAFT MAPS BY ITEM TWO C HOUSEKEEPING ITEM THREE UNFINISHED BUSINESS, THE XRC MAY DISCUSS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEMS, A UPDATES FROM WORKING GROUPS, SUBCOMMITTEES, A SOCIAL MEDIA PRESS RELEASE WORKING GROUP, A TO ADVERTISING WEBSITE, WORKING GROUP A THREE, THE FORUM WORKING GROUP A FOR FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE.
THEY FIVE FINAL REPORT SUBMITTED AND THEN FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU, MATT.
UH, BEFORE WE GET ANY FURTHER, JUST WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS.
I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE OF SOME HOUSEKEEPING.
AND ONCE YOU ARE SPEAKING OR FOR COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE ENJOYING THEIR DINNERS, IF YOU'RE EATING LIKE LAST WEEK, I PROPOSE AN END TIME OF NO LATER THAN 11:00 PM TONIGHT.
AND I JUST WANT TO HAVE A FEW ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS AS WELL.
SO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS NOT TONIGHT TO TALK TO YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS ABOUT REDISTRICTING THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU AND YOUR VOICE, WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH EMAIL VOICEMAIL IN PERSON TESTIMONY OR SENDING US MAPS, WE'VE TAKEN ALL OF THIS INTO CONSIDERATION IN OUR WORK.
AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR VOLUNTEERING COUNTLESS HOURS OVER THESE PAST FEW MONTHS, AND ESPECIALLY THE PAST FEW WEEKS AS WE WORK TO CREATE THE FAIREST CITY COUNCIL BOUNDARIES POSSIBLE.
AND THANK YOU AGAIN TO CITY STAFF FOR YOUR GENEROUS SUPPORT AND MAKING THESE MEETINGS FROM SEAMLESSLY SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT SOME GROUND RULES FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING.
WE HAVE ONE GOAL TONIGHT, AND THAT IS TO GET THE MAPS TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE READY TO APPROVE THEM COMMISSIONERS.
WHEN MAKING A SUGGESTION ABOUT THE MAP, PLEASE REFER TO SECTION THREE E OF THE CHARTER.
YOU HAVE THAT DOCUMENT WITH YOU.
WHAT HAPPENS TO ELECTIONS OR TO ELECTED OFFICIALS AS A RESULT OF OUR WORK IS NOT UNDER CONSIDERATION AS AGREED UPON.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO ABIDE BY ROBERT'S RULES.
SO IF YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT A PARTICULAR TOPIC, GIVE OTHERS A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
YOU CANNOT, WHILE SOMEONE IS STILL SPEAKING SIGNAL THAT YOU WANT TO SPEAK NEXT, AND PLEASE ADDRESS THE CHAIR WHEN YOU WANT TO SPEAK AND BE RECOGNIZED.
FINALLY, I ASKED THE PATIENTS THIS EVENING AS OUR MAPPING EXPERT, GEORGE HORRIBLE WORKS AS QUICKLY AND CAREFULLY AS POSSIBLE TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THE MAP RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE PASSED THIS EVENING.
SO I'M EXCITED TO REPORT THAT WE ARE COMING INTO THIS MEETING, HAVING OUR MET OUR GOAL OF LAST WEEK OF BRINGING WITH US A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH WE
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WILL GO THROUGH TONIGHT.AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL APPROVE PRELIMINARY MAPS.
WE MAY ALSO HAVE TO MEET TOMORROW IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO NOT APPROVE MAPS TODAY.
THAT'LL BE THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH IN THIS VERY ROOM.
AND SO FOR EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AND OUT OF THIS ROOM, I ALSO WANT TO SHARE THAT WE WILL HOLD THE FIRST OF FIVE PUBLIC FORUMS FOR THE PRELIMINARY MAP THIS SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH, ONCE APPROVED THE MAP WILL GO UP ON THE CITY OF AUSTIN SITE ON REDISTRICT, ATS.ORG AND ON SPEAK UP AUSTIN, WHERE WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FEATURE AVAILABLE.
SO WE WILL BEGIN WITH GENERAL CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.
UM, JUST AS A REMINDER, EACH SPEAKER HAS THREE MINUTES AND JUST CLEARLY STATE YOUR NAME.
AND IN WHICH DISTRICT YOU RESIDE, WE WELCOME ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OUR MEETING TONIGHT, AND WE WILL EMBED CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AT THE START OF THE DISCUSSION OF EACH OF THE 10 DISTRICTS THIS EVENING AS WELL.
AND IN THAT CASE, SPEAKERS ALSO HAVE THREE MINUTES.
IF COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKERS, PLEASE HOLD THEM TILL THE END.
SO I SEE ON THE LIST PECK YOUNG, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK NOW, MR. YOUNG? OKAY.
AND, UM, DANIEL YANAS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK NOW, SIR, OR WAIT UNTIL DISTRICT THREE? GREAT.
THIS ONE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THE LOOK OF THE DRAW THAT YOU'RE HERE.
I LIVE IN DISTRICT THREE AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING FOR THEIR PEOPLE ORGANIZING DEFENSIVE BIRTH AND OUR RESOURCES AND THE VOTER EDUCATION, UH, VOTER EDUCATION, UM, UH, AND MOBILIZATION INITIATIVE.
UM, AND SO, UM, I'M HERE TO, UM, I GUESS SUBMIT THIS LETTER TO Y'ALL.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT, UH, HOW, HOW EXACTLY TO DO IT, BUT I WANT TO SUBMIT THIS LETTER TO YOU, UM, AND EXPRESSING OUR SUPPORT FOR THE SUBSTITUTE MAPS THAT NAACP AND THE HISPANIC COALITION HAVE SUBMITTED.
I WAS HOPING TO SEE THEM UP HERE TODAY SO THAT WE COULD SAY, WELL, THOSE, THOSE ARE NOT THE COMPROMISE MAPS, BUT I'M HERE TO, TO SUPPORT THOSE.
SO AS YOU GO THROUGH, UM, THROUGH THESE, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU LOOK AT AT, UH, UH, THREE AND FOUR AND, UH, SUPPORT THOSE SUBSTITUTES.
I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE.
MATT, DO WE HAVE OTHER SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR THIS EVENING? SURE.
OH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MR. YANNIS KNEW JUST GIVES THE LETTER TO CHRISTINE AND SHE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET A COPY.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE REST OF, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TODAY ARE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY FOR A DISTRICT.
SO I WILL CALL YOU, UH, WHEN WE GET TO THOSE DISTRICTS.
UM, DID ANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. RHIANNA'S BY THE WAY? OKAY.
WELL, THANK YOU TO OUR SPEAKERS.
THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS AGENDA ITEM ONE, APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 8TH MEETING, THOSE WERE SENT TO YOUR EMAILS.
ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS, THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
IF WE CAN PROCEED WITH A RECOMMENDATION ON CONSENSUS TONIGHT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
IF THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, WE WILL ENTERTAIN THE MOTIONS.
IF A MOTION FAILS, LET'S AGREE TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT RECOMMENDATION.
MATH RECOMMENDATIONS ARE LISTED ON THIS SPREADSHEET, BUT YOU ARE OF COURSE, WELCOME TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BEYOND WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN OUT.
LET ME REMIND EVERYONE OF THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU MAKE A MOTION, IT'S SIMPLY CREATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS AN ACTION.
PLEASE KEEP THE MOTION SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD.
AND THEN AFTER IT HAS BEEN SECONDED, THE PERSON WHO MAKES THE MOTION GETS THE FIRST TALKING PRIVILEGES TO EXPLAIN THEIR REASONING.
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SO RATHER THAN FRONT-LOADING THE JUSTIFICATION, SAVE THAT FOR THE DEBATE FOR COMMISSIONERS ON ZOOM TONIGHT, IF YOU HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE SPEAK UP.THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO THE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF DRAFT MAP OF DISTRICTS.
ONE THROUGH FOUR COMMISSIONER LANDS, MADAM CHAIR, AS IT IS SHOWN ON THE AGENDA.
THIS IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT, AND ACTUALLY I HAD EMOTION, UM, THAT WOULD HAVE LED US INTO THIS DISCUSSION.
SO WOULD YOU PREFER THAT I WAIT FOR THE EMOTION OR MAKE IT NOT COMMISSIONER LANCE, GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR MOTION NOW.
I MOVED TO ADOPT A PLAN FOR DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FOUR, AGREED ON BY THE NAACP AND HISPANIC COALITION AND THE ICRC MAPPING CONSULTANT.
AND I ALSO, UM, W IF THERE'S A SECOND, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. PACK AND MR. CORAL TO COME FORWARD AND EXPLAIN THE DETAILS OF THEIR AGREEMENT.
SO LET ME MAKE SURE I HAVE THAT RIGHT COMMISSIONER LANDS.
IT HAS MOVED AND SECONDED THAT THE ICRC ADOPTS THE MAPS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED DISTRICT ONE FOR DISTRICTS.
ONE AGREED ON BY THE NAACP HISPANIC COALITION AND ICR AGREED ON BY THE NAACP AND HISPANIC COALITION AND THE ICRC.
BUT THE THING WAS TOO YOUNG, SORRY, I'M NORMALLY HEARD WITHOUT ONE.
UH, I'M GOING TO MAKE A BRIEF STATEMENT THAT WE REVIEWED BOTH OUR MAPS AND THE MAPS.
I MR. CORBO AT SOME LINK STARTING THURSDAY AFTERNOON, AND WE HAD A PHONE CONFERENCE, ZOOM CONFERENCE WITH MR. CORBELL AFTER WE REVIEWED OUR WORK AND HIS, AND HE, AND OUR RECENT AGREEMENT, UH, THAT HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A COPY OF, IT'S A SIMPLE PIECE OF PAPER.
I ASKED MATT IF HE COULD MAKE COPIES FOR EVERYONE AND ALL THE WORK I'VE BEEN DOING, I DID NOT MAKE IT A SUFFICIENT NUMBER.
IT IS SIMPLY AS FOLLOWS IN DISTRICT ONE.
WE RECOMMEND TAKING THE LBJ SCHOOL AND LIBRARY INTO DISTRICT ONE BEYOND THAT, UH, WE ARE WILLING TO AGREE TO THE REST OF MR. CORBELS PLAN.
UH, DISTRICT TWO, WE DO NOT BELIEVE, NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IN ANY MANNER.
IT IS AS FACTORY AS PROPOSED DISTRICT CREE.
AND WE NEED, WE WANT TO TAKE ALL OF PRECINCT 4 33 AND THE THREE.
UH, WE WANT TO TAKE THE PART OF 4 24 WITH MR. KORBEL.
AND WE DISCUSSED, WE DO NOT WANT TO TAKE ANY PRECINCT FOR 22.
WE WANT TO LEAVE THAT IN DISTRICT NINE IN PRECINCT FOUR.
UH, WE, UH, HAVE SEVERAL CHANGES THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH MR. KORBEL IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, DONALD GME AND DISTRICT FOUR.
WE WILL ACCEPT THAT AS REDRAWN BY MR. CALDWELL.
UH, WE WISH WE COULD DO BETTER.
I WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS.
IF I MAY, FOR THE RECORD, IT IS DISTURBING TO ME THAT IN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN DISTRICT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING IN THAT PART OF TOWN SINCE THE 1960S, WE COULD NOT FIND A SINGLE PRECINCT THAT WAS MAJORITY AFRICAN-AMERICAN.
UH, HOWEVER, UH, WE WORKED AND MS. CORAL WORKED DILIGENTLY TO CREATE WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A GENUINE BLACK OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT.
AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING THE FACT THAT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN AUSTIN IS BEING DRIVEN OUT OF TOWN IS DISTURBING, BUT IT IS NOT.
THE COMMISSION'S BUSINESS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT OR WHICH WE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT AT THIS POINT IN THIS MANNER.
UM, DISTRICT TWO IS A SOLID HISPANIC DISTRICT.
WE THINK DISTRICT THREE HAS ALSO SUFFERED THE SAME FATE TO A LESSER EXTENT IN DISTRICT TWO, UH, AN AREA ON A NORTHERN AGE OF DISTRICT THREE IS IT'S NOW DRAWN, WAS DURING MOST OF MY LIFETIME CONSIDERED WHAT WAS LOVINGLY KNOWN AS THE BARRIO, THOSE PRECINCTS ALONG THE RIVER, UH, ARE NONE OF THEM UNTIL YOU REACH ALL THE WAY TO GO VALLEY OR MAJORITY HISPANIC ANYMORE.
UH, AND IN THAT BOX THAT, UH, LEXAN DISTRICT THINK WE'LL OVERTIME SUFFER THE SAME FATE AS ONE.
AGAIN, THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS BODY CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
HOPEFULLY BY THEM, THAT COMMUNITY IS LACKING APPROPRIATE REPRESENTATION.
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BUT I SIMPLY AM DISTURBED IF THAT'S THE CASE.AND I WANT IT NOTED ON THE RECORD.
DISTRICT FOUR IS A SOLID HISPANIC DISTRICT BY POPULATION.
BUT WHEN WE DID AN IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS, WE FOUND THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM WITH CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION.
AND THAT THERE IS AN ELEMENT IN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, WHICH IS ADULT THE MAJORITY OF THE HISPANICS.
THERE, WE HAVE A SOLID BLOCK OF, OF VOTING AGE POPULATION, HISPANICS, BUT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF THEM ARE NOT CITIZENS.
THAT AGAIN IS NOT, YOUR PROBLEM IS NOT OURS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN ADDRESS, BUT I AM HOPING THAT MOST OF THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND THE CITIZEN OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND WE'LL ADDRESS IT BECAUSE THAT SHOULD BE A HISPANIC MAJORITY DISTRICT.
IT IS NOW AN OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS.
THOSE ARE SIMPLY STATEMENTS OF FACTS FOR THE RECORD, BUT WE ARE SATISFIED WITH WHAT MR. KORBEL AND MY TEAM HAS DONE.
AND WE RECOMMEND THAT THIS BE THE BASE THAT THE DISTRICT WOULD BE THE, THE BASELINE FOR THE COMMUNITY, AS WE SAID, CALL IT THE ANCHOR.
AND THAT THESE MINORITY DISTRICTS WILL BE ADOPTED BY THIS COMMISSION, YOUR QUESTIONS AND YOURS.
THAT'S WHEN I HAD REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL, I SAW THAT, UM, YOU WERE ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT, UH, VTD FOUR 20 MOVE TO DISTRICT NINE.
IS THAT NOT PART OF THE PROPOSAL? OKAY, SO YOU, SIR, GO AHEAD, CHRIS.
YOURSELF ON MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY THAT MR. YOUNG JUST SIMPLY DID NOT STATE THAT AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT.
WHEN WE, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE DISCUSSION AND MY STAFF AND MY TEAM, I WON'T GO TO THE STAFF.
IT'S A BUNCH OF VOLUNTEERS, UH, WORKED ON IT.
UH, WE AGREED TO LEAVE THAT PART OF FOUR 20, UH, UH, IN, UH, IN THEORY.
SO LEAVE IT IN THREE OR WE DECIDE TO LEAVE IT IN THREE.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE? OKAY.
THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MOTION THAT THE ICRC ADOPT THE MAPS FOR DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FOUR, AGREED UPON BY THE NAACP HISPANIC COALITION AND THE ICRC, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, AYE, COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO BE DISCUSSION OF DRAFT MAPS BY ITEM ITEMS ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE DISTRICTS.
IN THIS CASE, THESE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS PUT FORTH BY MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION USING POPULATION AND VTD DATA, CHARTER PRIORITIES AND PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
WE WILL RUN THROUGH THESE ITEMS IN A SENSIBLE ORDER, THROUGH THE DISTRICTS, WORKING OUR WAY AROUND THE MAP.
UH, ONE THROUGH FOUR, WHICH I THINK WE'VE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED THAT GOAL.
AND THEN, UM, 5, 8, 10, 6, 7, AND THEN NINE, UM, BASED ON OUR AGREED UPON DECISIONS, MR. KORBEL, WE'LL REVISE THE FIRST DRAFT OF THE MAP ON THE SPOT.
IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER CHANGES THAT HE DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE, UM, WE WILL TAKE A LONG ENOUGH RECESS TO ALLOW HIM TO MAKE THESE REVISIONS, AND THEN WE WILL REVIEW THE FRESH DRAFT AND MOVE TOWARD APPROVAL.
SO WE WILL BEGIN WITH RECOMMENDATIONS PERTAINING TO D ONE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED UP FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION FOR DISTRICT ONE, NICOLE NETHERTON.
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OH, OKAY.SO WE WILL MOVE TO, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS PERTAINING TO DISTRICT FIVE.
DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMUNICATION FOR DISTRICT FIVE RECOMMENDATIONS PERTAINING TO DISTRICT EIGHT? I DO SEE ONE LISTED HERE FROM A COMMISSIONER BLANK TO MOVE FLOATING PRECINCTS 3 18, 3 38 TO 21 TO 12 AND 3 0 7.
AND THAT IS TO KEEP THOSE SOUTH OF THE RIVER IN DISTRICT EIGHT COMMISSIONER BLANK.
I'M GOING TO PASS THE MIC TO YOU TO EXPLAIN YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
UH, SO THIS WOULD BE A RELATIVE GEOGRAPHIC EXPANSION OF DISTRICT AIDS.
AND AT FIRST, MY, YOU KNOW, MY INITIAL INTEREST WAS IN THE PRELIMINARY DRAFT MAPS.
WE HAD MR. CORBELL HAD MOVED PARTS OF TWO VOTING PRECINCTS.
I THINK IT'S 3 0 7 AND MAYBE SOME OF 360 4, WHICH WERE PREVIOUSLY PART OF DISTRICT AIDS AT THE SOUTHERN SORT OF AT THE NORTHERN MOST PART OF THE DISTRICT WEST OF MOPAC AND SOUTH OF THE RIVER INTO DISTRICT 10.
UH, AND I HAD ASKED HIM ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF SOME LOGIC BEHIND THAT, JUST, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF CONTINUITY IN THE DISTRICT.
I MEAN MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, BUT IT ALSO RAISED THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THE RIVER SHOULD BE A DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN D 10 AND D EIGHT.
WE KNOW THAT D 10 IS GOING TO EXPAND.
SO THE NORTH AND WEST TO PICK A POPULATION, UH, FROM D SIX, IF THE SOUTHERN, IF THE RIVER BECAME THE DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN THOSE TWO DISTRICTS TO CLEAR GEOGRAPHIC DISTINCTION, I THINK FOR PEOPLE.
ONE OTHER ADVANTAGE TO THIS CHANGE WOULD BE, AND IF I'M WRONG, PLEASE, SOMEONE ELSE CORRECT ME, UH, THAT WOULD PUT THE IAN'S SCHOOL DISTRICT INTO A SINGLE, UH, COUNCIL DISTRICT, AS OPPOSED TO SPLITTING IT BETWEEN D 10 AND D EIGHT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S A GOOD THING.
UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER SORT OF RATIONALE FOR THAT KIND OF EXPANSION WOULD JUST BE THAT THE NATURE OF DISTRICT AIDS IS THAT IT'S KEPT UP WITH POPULATION GROWTH OVER THE LAST DECADE, ALMOST PERFECTLY, BUT I EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE GOING FORWARD.
AND SO, UH, THIS SORT OF SEEMS TO ME TO BE A CHANGE THAT WE COULD MAKE NOW OR THE NEXT COMMISSION COULD MAKE, BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF, UH, I WOULD SAY THE NATURE OF THE LAND USE IN DA TO SUCH AS THAT POPULATION GROWTH IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO KEEP UP GOING FORWARD.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE LOGIC MIND, AND I DON'T HOLD STRONGLY TO MOST OF IT.
UH, IF, IF PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, OR ACTUALLY IF IT MAKES THE DISTRICT TOO LARGE, WHICH IS A BILL, A LITTLE BIT OF A FEAR OF MINE IN THE CURRENT INSTANCES, IT MIGHT MAKE THE DISTRICT A LITTLE TOO BIG, THEN I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SCALE IT BACK.
AND THEN JUST REVERT BACK DISTRICT EIGHT TO THE EXACT SAME OUTLINE THAT IT HAS CURRENTLY, WHICH WOULD JUST BE, UH, AGAIN, REVERTING THE CHANGE THAT WAS MADE IN THE PRELIMINARY NAPS OF PART OF PRECINCT 360 4 AND 3 0 7 BACK INTO DISTRICT EIGHT AND, AND LEAVING THE REST ON CHANGED ANY MEDICARE CAN WE HEAR FROM A MAPPING SPECIALIST, MR. KORBEL ON THIS CHANGE, IF THERE'S A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE NUMBERS WORK, THEY DO WORK TO TAKE THIS, THIS ENTIRE AREA.
UM, I APPRECIATE IT FOR SURE, BUT LIKE I'M OPENING THIS DISCUSSION.
I SEE THAT, UH, DISTRICT EIGHT IS ONE OF THE MOST OVERLY OVERLY POPULATED AT THE MOMENT BASED ON HOW THE MAP IS DRAWN WITH CONTINUED PATTERNS TO CONTINUE GROWING.
IT MAKES SENSE FOR IT TO GROW NORTH.
UM, AND CURRENTLY I, I APPRECIATE THE LINE BECAUSE IT DOES SHOW THAT THE, THE BREAK BETWEEN DISTRICTS EIGHT AND 10 ARE RIGHT AT THE, AT THE RIVER GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARY.
THAT'S NOTICEABLE TO PEOPLE WHO JUST LOOK AT THIS MAP.
UM, I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER BLINKS, ADDITIONAL COMMENT ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UM, WE DID HEAR, UM, FROM PRESENTATION BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
UM, THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR, GONZALEZ.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT, UM, TESTIMONY WE HEARD FROM DISTRICTS AID SUPPORTED AND MOVING IT IF NECESSARY, BUT IT WAS NOT NECESSARY.
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SO I SUPPORT LEAVING IT.UM, BASED ON THAT TESTIMONY WE RECEIVED, YOU MENTIONED YOUR BLANK.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT SPURRED THE DISCUSSION, UH, THAT I HAD WITH MR. CORBELL ABOUT THAT CHANGE WAS THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT DISTRICT DATE MADE COMMENTS AND PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND VIA EMAIL, THERE'S A, THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF COMMENTARY FROM THE LOST CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARTICULAR WAS REFERRING TO THE, WHICH IS BASICALLY IF YOU'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT THE MAP, YOU'RE NOT SURE WHERE THAT IS.
IT'S KIND OF, YOU GO UP 360, IT'S BASICALLY SORT OF THE EDGE OF, UH, SORT OF THE, PROBABLY THE CURRENT NORTHERN MOST PART OF THE DISTRICT WITHIN ON, ON CAPITAL TEXAS HIGHWAY.
AND THEN BASICALLY THERE'S A BREAK THERE AND THEN IT KIND OF, AND THEN THE CITY PICKS UP AGAIN IN DISTRICT 10 AND THE ECONOMIC PATTERNS THAT PEOPLE WERE DESCRIBING, UH, AS WELL AS ARE THE EDUCATIONAL PATTERNS AND EVERYTHING IN THAT DISTRICT SEEM TO ME WOULD PROBABLY APPLY TO PEOPLE JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THERE, BUT SOUTH OF THE RIVER, IN TERMS OF WHERE PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT SHOPPING, GOING TO EAT, WHERE THEIR KIDS WERE GOING TO SCHOOL.
SO IT SEEMED THAT THE LOGIC OF KEEPING LOST CREEK AND DH AS PEOPLE REQUESTED, AND THE REASONS ABOUT THE RATIONALE BEHIND IT WOULD PROBABLY EQUALLY APPLY IN TERMS OF PER SECTION THREE, SECTION 3.4 OF THE CHARTER IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC PATTERNS, COMMUNITIES OF INTERESTS, ET CETERA, THAT IT WOULD JUST, IT WOULD MAKE SOME SENSE TO PUT THOSE PEOPLE IN THE SAME DISTRICT.
SO THAT WAS PART OF MY RATIONALE AND ASKING THE QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MY PLACE, BUT CAN I MOVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS? I MAY HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE OR I MOVE TO ADOPT COMMISSIONER BLINKS, RECOMMENDATION OF MOVING, VOTING, VTD, SIREE VOTING TABULATION DISTRICTS 3 18, 3 38 TO 21 TO 12 AND 3 0 7.
UM, FROM KEEPING THOSE IN DISTRICT EIGHT PRINCETON OR BLANK.
I SECOND IT, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT NOT ALL OF THOSE DISTRICTS ARE CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT DATES JUST FOR, JUST FOR CLARITY HERE.
BUT THE MOTION STILL STANDS AND I SECOND IT, RIGHT.
SO IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE WILL PUT THREE 18 VOTING DISTRICTS FOR INCREASING, EXCUSE ME, 3 18, 3 38 TO 21 TO 12 AND 3 0 7 INTO DISTRICT EIGHT.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE? UM, MODERN QUESTION.
UM, CAN I JUST HEAR ONE MORE TIME FROM MR. CORVEL? UM, IF THE POPULATION CHANGE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
IF A DISTRICT GATE, IF WE WERE TO MAKE THE CHANGES.
CAN YOU TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON, SIR? YES.
THE POPULATION, UH, FITS WITHIN THE REASONABLE DEVIATION.
THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MOTION THAT WE PUT THE VOTING PRECINCTS 3 18, 3 38 TO 21, 2 12 AND 3 0 7 INTO DISTRICT EIGHT.
AND THE MOTION IS ADOPTED COMMISSIONER KANAAN OKAY.
I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DISTRICT FIVE AND I KNOW THERE'S ALMOST NO CHANGE.
UM, WELL, WE'VE ALSO SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE THE VIRTUAL LINKS TO THE MAPS.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SENT OUT TO EVERY, FROM MR. CORBELL WAS SUPPOSED TO SEND US EACH A LINK TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE SOFTWARE LAST.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A LINK THAT WENT OUT, BUT WE HAVE ALL OF THE MAPS IN, UM, A DETAILED FORM IN FRONT OF US HERE.
IS IT A VIRTUAL COPY? WE CAN ACCESS.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO RECOMMENDATIONS PERTAINING TO DISTRICT 10.
DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZEN COMMUNICATION FOR DISTRICT 10? OKAY.
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HERE FROM COMMISSIONERS FIRST FROM VICE-CHAIR GONZALEZ, MOVING VOTING PRECINCTS 3 74, 3 75, 2 45, 2 44, 2 30 TO 3 12, 3 59, 2 30 TO 3 24, 3 18 3 43 AND 2 34.UM, AND PUTTING THOSE INTO DISTRICTS 10, UH, I'M GOING TO LET VICE-CHAIR GONZALEZ EXPLAIN HIS RECOMMENDATION.
MADAM CHAIR, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT A SIMILAR, UM, POTENTIAL CHANGE AS THE MOTION PASSED FROM COMMISSIONER BLANK, WHEN IT'S BALANCED THE POPULATION FROM DISTRICT 10, THAT WENT INTO DISTRICT EIGHT WITH ONE OF ITS NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS, UH, WHICH WOULD BE DISTRICT SIX.
AND THE PREVIOUS MEETING, WE HEARD SOME COMMENTS THAT THE SPECIMEN MAP ALREADY HAD PRECINCTS, UH, FROM WEST OF THE LAKE IN OUR SPECIMEN MAP AND INCLUDING NEIGHBORING, UH, VTD IS 2, 3, 4 AND 3, 4 3.
SO JUST FOR GEOGRAPHIC CONTINGENCY, UM, AND WITH A SIMILAR POPULATION THAT HAS JUST SHIFTED FROM A D 10 TO D EIGHT, THESE ARE BALANCED AND POPULATION BALANCING THE POPULATION PER CITY CHARTER, UH, SECTION ONE, REASONABLY EQUITABLE DISTRICTS, AND TO KEEP, UM, GEOGRAPHICAL, UM, CONTINUALLY, EXCUSE ME, PROBABLY NOT USING THAT WORD CORRECTLY.
LOOK AGAIN, IF, IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT THIS MAP, UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL OF THAT AREA, UM, AROUND THE LAKE SHARES SIMILAR INTERESTS, UM, SIMILAR ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO WHETHER IT BE MAINTENANCE OR EMS. UM, SO FOR THOSE THREE REASONS, IT'S A LOT OF DISTRICTS.
THERE'S NOT MANY PEOPLE OR POPULATION WITHIN EACH OF THESE DISTRICTS.
UM, SO IT BALANCES OUT, UM, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION TO YOU AT THE MOMENT.
AND CAN WE ALSO HEAR FROM MR. KORBEL ABOUT THESE PRECINCTS, PUTTING THEM IN DISTRICT 10? WELL, THESE CORRECT.
PLEASE TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON.
THERE IS A, UM, THERE IS A SMALL, UH, COMPARATIVELY SMALL POPULATION AND IT MAKES A DISTRICT 10, UM, GO ALL THE WAY TO THE LAKE.
UM, BUT IT ALSO KEEPS A DISTRICT SIX IN A, IN A VERY COMPACT, UM, DISTRICT.
THE, UM, UM, DISTRICT SIX WOULD HAVE BEEN IN, IN CONNECTION WITH THESE ONLY BY A VERY THIN, UM, UMBILICAL CORD RIGHT HERE.
AND SO IT MADE SENSE TO, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME TO MAKE SENSE TO BE IN DISTRICT 10 AND THE NUMBERS WORK.
SO IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO VICE-CHAIR GONZALEZ HIS RECOMMENDATION? OKAY.
I MOVED TO, UH, ADOPT COMMITTEE, VICE CHAIR.
SHOULD I READ IT TO MOVE A VOTING TABULATION DISTRICTS? 3 74, 3 75, 2 45, 2 44, 2 30 TO 3 12, 3 59 TO 30 TO 3 24, 3 18, 3 43 AND 2 34 TO DISTRICT 10.
WE HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER CANON SECOND.
IT HAS MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE MOVE OR RATHER, UM, INCLUDE, UM, BTDS 3 74, 3 75, 2 45, 2 44, 2 3 2 3 12 3 59, 2 3 2 3 24, 3 18 3 43 AND 2, 3, 4 INTO DISTRICT 10.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER TO DATE? OKAY, WELL, THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MOTION THAT WE MOVE THESE DISTRICTS OR PRECINCTS 3 74, 3 75 TO 45 TO 44, 2 3 2 3 12 3 59, 2 3 2 3 24 3 18 3 43 AND 2, 3, 4 INTO DISTRICT 10.
UH, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
THE NEXT ONE, UM, RECOMMENDATION FOR DISTRICT 10 IS, UH, BY COMMISSIONER
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VTD 2 36, UM, AND PUT THAT INTO DISTRICT SEVEN.SO, UM, 2 36 VOTING TABULATION DISTRICT 2 36 WAS ONE THAT WAS ALWAYS HAD BEEN IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
IT WAS TEMPORARILY MOVED AS PART OF OUR DRAFTS TO BALANCE THE POPULATION.
HOWEVER, WHAT THAT MEANT WAS THAT THE ALLENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS SPLIT.
YOU HAVE A MAP HERE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, SUPPLIED BY ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS AND MY MOVE.
I, I RECOMMEND THAT WE MOVE IT BACK TO DISTRICT SEVEN, TO BE REUNITED WITH ITS ALLENDALE NEIGHBORS, COMMISSIONER FOLLICLE.
AND THIS REMINDS ME THAT WE DID HAVE, UM, SOME PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO TALK ABOUT DISTRICT SEVEN.
IF I GUESS I CAN MOVE TO HAVE THEM TESTIFY IF THEY SO WISH I'LL GO AHEAD AND INVITE THEM UP, ACTUALLY, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH EVERYONE.
UM, SO WE, WE ARE, WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM THREE INDIVIDUALS I HAVE LISTED HERE TODAY.
UH, JOE REYNOLD'S FIRST JOE REYNOLDS, OR ARE YOU READY TO TALK ABOUT DISTRICT SEVEN, SIR? MADAM CHAIR? YES.
BEFORE OUR TESTIMONY, MAY I GO AHEAD AND OUTLINE MY OTHER, UM, RECOMMENDATION THAT CONCERNS DISTRICT 10 AND DISTRICT SEVEN SO THAT WE CAN CONSIDER THEM TOGETHER.
SO MY OTHER RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE VOTING TABULATION DISTRICT 2 46, UM, THAT, UM, PRECINCT HAS BEEN IN DISTRICT 10 AND FOR OUR INITIAL DRAFT, WE MOVED IT IN THE ENTRANCE OF POPULATION, UM, BALANCING.
HOWEVER, WHAT THAT MEANT IS THAT THE NORTHWEST, UM, UH, NORTHWEST AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SORRY, I WAS REMINDING MYSELF, MY ACRONYMS, UM, WAS SPLIT.
AND SO THAT WAS CERTAINLY AN INADVERTENT AND WE WANT TO MOVE VTD 2 46 BACK TO DISTRICT 10 TO BE REUNITED WITH THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
SO IN SUMMARY, MOVING TO 36 TO THE SEVEN AND MOVING TO 46 TO D 10.
ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO INVITE MR. JOE REYNOLDS UP TO TALK ON DISTRICT SEVEN.
AND SIR, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FROM THE TIME YOU START AND MAKE SURE YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON ANSWER.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS OF COMMISSIONERS.
I'M THE USUAL ELECTION JUDGE FOR PRECINCT 2 36.
I'M ACTIVE IN VARIOUS ELLENDALE EFFORTS.
AND I WAS FIRST ON THE ELLENDALE BOARD IN 1980, BEFORE I GET STARTED AND START MY THREE MINUTES.
Y'ALL GOT THE MAPS IN THE PICTURES.
AND, UM, I'M WANNA MAKE SURE THAT Y'ALL KNOW THAT THERE IS ALSO A CHANGE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL CHANGE BETWEEN 10 AND SEVEN, WHICH IS THE EAST HALF OF PRECINCT.
TWO 40, UH, IS ALSO PART OF ALLENDALE.
AND IT'S EAST OF MOPAC, TWO 40 SPLITS WITH MOPAC.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING ALL OF THOSE.
AND SO IF YOU'VE GOT THAT, I'M GOING TO START MY THREE MINUTES, BUT I'M GOING TO, BECAUSE I WANT TO STAY ON TIME.
I'M GOING TO READ MY, IF THAT'S OKAY, IF IT DOESN'T OFFEND YOU.
COMMISSIONERS, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT RESTORING ALL OF ALLENDALE TO DISTRICT SEVEN.
YOUR DRAFT MAP HAS AN ORIGINAL PART OF ALLENDALE.
PRESERVING COMMUNITY OF INTEREST IS A BASIC REDISTRICTING PRINCIPLE JUST AFTER EQUAL NUMBER OF RESIDENTS.
IT'S WHAT PREVENTS DISTRICTS FROM JUST BEING DRAWN AS A PATCH.
ART CENTERED AT THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY.
ELLENDALE IS A STRONG COMMITTEE COMMUNITY.
WE EAT TOGETHER, SHOP TOGETHER, PRAY TOGETHER AND PLAY TOGETHER.
THE DRAFT MAP HAS A SIGNIFICANT ORIGINAL PART OF ELLENDALE SPLIT OFF AND MOVED TO D 10 WITH THE REMAINDER OF ALLENDALE STATION SEVEN, MR. CORBELL USES PETE 2 36 AND PART OF P 40 EAST OF MOPAC IS DEFINING AN AREA BELONGING TO DTN.
THIS SPLIT PUTS THE THIRD LARGEST METHODIST CHURCH IN AUSTIN AND
IT PUTS ALLENDALE VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER IN DTN, SPLITTING IT FROM MOST OF ALLENDALE.
THE PART OF ALLENDALE MOVED TO DTN HAS STRONG FIRST DAY TASKS TO THE NORTHERN PART.
THE INITIAL PLAT MAP SHOW THE CONNECTIONS.
THE INITIAL MAPS WERE SUBMITTED TO THE TRAVIS COUNTY LAND OFFICE IN 1940 WITH MORE IN 1950, BUT DEVELOPMENT WAS DELAYED BY A THING CALLED WORLD WAR II.
WHEN THINGS SETTLE AFTER THE WAR AND WITH THE VETERANS' GI BILL BENEFITS, HOUSING BOOM, MY HOUSE AND PETE 2 36 WERE BUILT IN 1951 AND THE AIR CONDITIONED VILLAGE
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FURTHER NORTH AND ALLENDALE IN P 2 39 WAS STARTED IN 1950.WHEN I WAS ON THE ELLENDALE BOARD IN 1980 TO 83, WE HAD THE 1981 MEMORIAL DAY FLOOD THAT GOT US NAMED FLOOD ALLEY.
THE STORY IS TOO LONG FOR TONIGHT, BUT THREE ALLENDALE ENGINEERS GOT AUSTIN TO TAKE ITS CURRENT APPROACH TO FLOOD MANAGEMENT.
FLOODING IS A COMMON CONNECTING ISSUE THAT ALLENDALE HAS WITH ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS NORTH OF SHOW CREEK, AND THEN A SHORT BREAK WATERSHED.
IT EXTENDS NORTH OR PARMER LANE, AND IT'S THE SECOND LARGEST WORSHIP FOR LADY BIRD LAKE ONLY BARTON CREEK IS LARGER.
THE USE OF VOTING PRECINCT BOUNDARIES IS WRONG.
IN THIS CASE, THE CITY CHARTER SPECIFIES THAT ALL ELECTIONS OF CITY OFFICIALS BE NON-PARTISAN.
AND YET MR. CORBELL TABULATED THE PARTY AFFILIATIONS IN THE PRECINCT.
THE PRECINCTS MAY BE A QUICK WAY TO GET POPULATION COUNTS, BUT PRECINCT MEN BOUNDARIES, MINIMALLY ACCOUNT FOR COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.
THE CENSUS HAS OTHER WAYS HE CAN GET POPULATION NUMBERS.
ELLENDALE IS NOT THE ONLY COMMUNITY OF INTEREST SPLIT BY THE USING THE 2 36 BOUNDARY.
CURRENTLY
IT TIES TO ROSEDALE IT'S TASK TO ROSEDALE IS STRONG.
AS ROSEDALE IS ALLENDALE IS INTERNAL BONDING.
ROSEDALE WAS ALREADY DEVELOPED BY 1935 AND THE ELEMENTARY ROSEDALE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS IN THAT AREA.
ROSEDALE IS CURRENTLY IN DTM FOR SETTING THE DISTRICTS.
THE ICRC SHOULD USE CITY RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES, NOT VOTING PRECINCT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS PART OF TOWN.
AUSTIN WENT THROUGH AN INTENSIVE PROCESS OF SETTING NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES, BOUNDARIES ARE DEMONSTRATED AND IN SOME WAYS LEGISLATED IS AREAS OF COMMON INTEREST.
MANY AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE PLANS, AND THERE WAS A, FLOM A MAP THAT SETS NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES, ELLENDALE ESTABLISHED BOUNDARIES IN 1984, WHEN IT CONDUCTED THE LARGEST REZONING IN TEXAS AT THE TIME, OUR ZONING WAS PROVISIONAL AND COULD BE CHANGED ADMINISTRATIVELY ELLENDALE SURVEYED AND CONTACTED ALL THE LANDOWNERS HELD A HEARING AND PERMANENT ZONING WAS ESTABLISHED.
THE AREA REZONED MATCHES THE CITY BOUNDARY SHOWN IN THE GREEN ON THE MAP, CHANGING THE DRAFT MAP TO RESTORE ALLAN DALE'S INTEGRITY WILL INCREASE THESE SEVEN ASSIGNED POPULATION AND MAKE THE DISTRICT COUNTS MORE SIMILAR.
I ASKED YOU MAKE ELLENDALE AND ROSEDALE WHOLE BY RESPECTING THEIR BOUNDARIES.
THANK YOU, MR. REYNOLDS, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. MINTZ? YUP.
I'LL IF I HAVE QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS LATER IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OR ANYTHING ELSE THERE'S OTHER SPEAKERS.
UH, THANKS FOR THAT TESTIMONY.
UM, THERE WAS A LOT IN THERE AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT.
SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO ALSO MOVE PRECINCT TO 40, THE EASTERN HALF OF PRECINCT, TWO 40 IS ALSO PART OF ELLENDALE.
SO TO TAKE THAT WHOLE TWO 40 PRECINCT AND MOVE IT OR JUST THE EASTERN EASTERN HALF.
I JUST RELATED TO THAT QUESTION.
THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT WHEN I WAS READING MY OWN NOTES THAT I DID HAVE, UM, THE PORTION OF VOTING TABULATION DISTRICT TWO 40 EAST OF MOPAC WOULD ALSO MOVE TO A DISTRICT SEVEN.
SO COMMISSIONER, UM, IT'S UNDER THE NOTES FILE.
APOLOGIES FOR NOT CALLING THAT OUT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. REYNOLDS.
OH, MR. REYNOLDS COMMISSIONER CANON HAS.
UM, COMMISSIONER CANNOT ADD A QUESTION, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S FOR, UM, OUR MAPPING SPECIALISTS.
IS IT ABOUT DISTRICT SEVEN? YEAH.
UM, A QUESTION FOR MR. CORBELL, UM, JUST CONCERNED THE TESTIMONY GIVEN AND IN WHAT COMMISSIONER FARRAKHAN AND SAID.
I THINK IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT MOVING ALL OF PRECINCT, 2 36 AND THE EAST HALF OF 2 42 DISTRICT SEVEN, WOULD THAT KEEP THE GEOGRAPHIC, UH, POPULATION, UM, WITHIN THE LIMITS WE HAVE, THANK YOU.
DISTRICTS, WHO HAVEN'T HAD THE, IN THE PRELIMINARY THING, DISTRICT SEVEN HAD ONE OF THE LOWEST POPULATION COUNTS.
WELL, THE ONLY REASON I'M ASKING IS THERE'S ALSO A MOTION TO MOVE PRECINCT 2 46 OUT OF DISTRICT SEVEN INTO DISTRICT 10.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GIVEN THE 2 46 MOVEMENT OUT AND THE 2 36 MOVEMENT AND HALF OR WHATEVER PORTION OF 2 46, AND I WANT THE SPECIALIST TO GIVE
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US AN INDICATION OF WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF POPULATION.IF YOU LOOK ON THE MAP, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S A VERY SMALL AREA.
THERE'S NO, NO APARTMENTS, NO NOTHING IN THERE.
WE COULDN'T HEAR YOU, MR. KORBEL.
I SAID, IF YOU DID THAT, THE POPULATION WOULD STILL WORK.
1,617, AND YOU CAN GO UP TO ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
WE HAVE ANOTHER, UM, SOMEONE ELSE TESTIFYING ON DISTRICT SEVEN.
HIS NAME IS, UM, APOLOGIES IF I CAN'T SAY THIS CORRECTLY, BUT ADAM YANIS APOLOGIES IF I DIDN'T GET THAT CORRECT.
CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME GRANDMA IN THERE? NO APOLOGIES NECESSARY.
UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
AND I'M GOING TO CUT STRAIGHT TO THE CHASE BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THE LAST ONE.
UM, UH, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FOR FALCO AND FOR MAKING THOSE, UH, SUGGESTIONS.
WE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT IN FAVOR OF THEM.
A COUPLE OF THINGS I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IN ADDITION TO WHAT, UH, MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED, UH, UH, IF YOU TAKE OUT 2 36 FROM ALLIE, YOU SPLIT IT, IT LITERALLY HAS THE ALLENDALE CENTER IN THE, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT HAS THE NORTHWEST REC UH, PARK.
IT HAS THE, THE SHOAL CREEK GREENBELT FART.
IT HAS, UM, UH, SEVERAL OTHER AMENITIES THAT SERVE ALLENDALE AND, AND CRESTVIEW AND, AND, UH, BRENTWOOD NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, SO KEEPING THAT TOGETHER, IT, IT CREATES MOPAC AS A PHYSICAL BOUNDARY.
SO GREAT LOOKING, UH, BOUNDARY FOR DISTRICT SEVEN.
IT'S THE CURRENT ONE AND ALSO TRAVIS COUNTY, ALL OF DISTRICT SEVEN CURRENTLY, INCLUDING P 2 36 IS LOCATED IN A COUNTY COMMISSIONER COURT PRECINCT NUMBER TWO, AND ALL OF DISTRICT SEVEN, INCLUDING
IT IS A, IT IS A WELL-RECOGNIZED BOUNDARY FOR POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS.
IT SHOULD FOR THIS, UH, UH, FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE HIGHLIGHT FOR WHAT JOE SAID.
UM, I'M A MEMBER OF ST JOHN'S AND I MET THIS CHURCH, UH, MOVING THAT OUT OF OUR, MOVING THAT OUT OF OUR CONGREGATE, IT AFFECTS ABOUT 20% OF OUR CONGREGATES RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM US, COVENANT PRESBYTERIAN, SECOND LARGEST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH IN THE CITY.
IT PROBABLY TAKES 80% OF THEIR CONGREGATES OUT OF THERE.
THEY WOULD BE IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT THAN 80% OF THEIR CONGRESS.
IT IS, THEY ARE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST THAT YOU'RE AFFECTING MANAGEMENT.
CAN I ANSWER A QUESTION COMMISSIONERS? DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. HAYNES? MADAM CHAIRMAN? MAY I PLEASE ASK A QUESTION? YES.
COMMISSIONER CAMBO HAS A QUESTION FOR MR. HAYNES.
UM, HI, MR. HAYNES, I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH WHAT YOU SAID.
UM, ARE YOU IN AGREEANCE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER FARRAKHAN IN TERMS OF, UM, THE CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE? OR COULD YOU SPECIFY THE DIFFERENCES OR IF IT'S THE SAME 100% AND AGREEANCE? YES.
WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR MR. HAYNES BEFORE WE LET HIM GO.
THANK YOU, MR. HANS, AND WE DO HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER THIS EVENING FOR DISTRICT SEVEN, SCOTT EHLERS.
I REALLY HAVE NOTHING TO ADD OVER THAT EXCELLENT TESTIMONY, BESIDES THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR ALL THIS GREAT WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING.
I KNOW THIS IS FOR FREE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR DEMOCRACY.
COMMISSIONER FALCO AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THE PROPOSAL.
I, UH, I AM, UH, JUST TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, SCOTT, EYLERS A RESIDENT OF ALLENDALE.
UH, I LIVE ON CARLISLE, FORMER, UH, PRESIDENT TO THE ALLENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND BOARD MEMBER, AND I JUST APPRECIATE IT.
AND I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT IN AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPOSAL.
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DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. ALIENS? OKAY.MOTION TO ACCEPT COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, TO MOVE, UH, PRECINCT 2 36 FROM
IT'S THE VOTING TABULATION DISTRICT TWO 40 EAST OF MOPAC AND 2 36 FROM D 10 TO THE SEVEN TO THE SEVEN.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION AND ALSO 2 46.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER LANDS TO MOVE VTD 2 36 FROM, UM, INTO DISTRICT SEVEN AND MOVE VTD 2 46 TO DISTRICT 10 AND THE EASTERN, UM, EAST OF MOPAC VTD 2 42 DISTRICT SEVEN.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE? OKAY.
THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MOTION THAT WE PUT VTD 2 36 INTO DISTRICT SEVEN VTD, 2 46 INTO DISTRICT 10.
AND THAT THE TD TWO 40 EAST OF MOPAC INTO DISTRICT SEVEN.
UM, COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT WAS THE PRECINCT THAT YOU ARE MOVING INTO 10 IS, IS VTD 2 46.
SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH DISTRICT 10 HERE.
WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE, THIS ONE IS ALSO RELATED TO DISTRICT SIX.
THIS IS FROM VICE-CHAIR GONZALEZ TO MOVE VTD 3 26 AND PART OF 3 37 INTO DISTRICT SIX.
I WILL ALLOW VICE-CHAIR GONZALEZ TO EXPLAIN HIS RECOMMENDATION.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, UM, WITH THIS DISTRICT OR THIS PROPOSED SHIFT BETWEEN DISTRICTS THAT HAS ALSO FOR POPULATION CHANGE, UH, POPULATION SHIFTS BETWEEN 10 AND SIX, UH, PREDOMINANTLY, UM, VOTE, UH, VTD THREE TO SIX, THERE IS POPULATION OF ABOUT 3,400 PEOPLE, UH, WITHIN THAT DISTRICT, UH, NEARLY 50% OF THEM IDENTIFY AS ASIAN-AMERICAN AND PAST HOST TESTIMONY.
DISTRICT SIX IS CURRENTLY AT ABOUT 25% OF AN ASIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
UH, AND THOUGH THEY DON'T FALL UNDER THAT GROUP DOES NOT FALL UNDER THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT IN 10 YEARS OR SO, PERHAPS THINGS COULD CHANGE.
UM, AND IT IS A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST.
UM, SO FOR BALANCED POPULATION PRIORITY ONE AND FURTHER INCREASE, UM, THE ASIAN COMMUNITY PERCENTAGE IN DISTRICT SIX.
UM, I AM PROPOSING THE SHIFT FROM A VTD THREE TO SIX AND A PORTION OF 3, 3 7.
IT IS A SMALL PORTION ABOUT 15 PEOPLE IN THERE, ACCORDING TO THE 2020 CENSUS DATA.
SO WHILE IT WOULD SPLIT A PRECINCT, THEY ARE ALREADY SPLIT BY AN ANNEXED AREA, KIND OF THAT SWISS CHEESE THAT WE SEE ON THE MAP THERE.
UM, SO IN ADDITION TO THE ITEMS I MENTIONED ALSO, IT LOOKS GOOD ON THE MAP FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
UM, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, MR. CORBELL, CAN YOU PLEASE ELABORATE ON VICE-CHAIR GONZALEZ POINTS THERE? UM, WELL, HE'S, UH, HE'S MOVING A VOTING PRECINCT THAT IS, UM, SIGNIFICANT HAS A SIGNIFICANT ASIAN POPULATION, 3 26 INTO A DISTRICT SIX.
AND, UM, UM, THE, IT HAS THE, IT HAS THE, THE, AS YOU CAN SEE THE APPEARANCE OF DISTRICT SIX
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BECOMES ALMOST A SQUARE DISTRICT AND, UM, PROBABLY, UM, PROBABLY WE'LL WIN ON AN AWARD FOR THAT.UM, WHEN THE, WHEN THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE COMES INTO COMES INTO BEING, YOU WON'T SEE ANY DISTRICT THAT SQUARE, BUT IT WORKS IN, IT MAKES SENSE.
YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. KORBEL OR VICE CHAIR CONSULTANTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, HE SAID THAT HE WANTS TO MOVE PART OF 3, 3 7 WAS WONDERING, WHERE IS THAT PART? WHAT PART, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT'S A BIG IT'S INCREASING OR IT SEEMS LIKE ZOOMING IN ON THE SCREEN.
I THINK THERE, I THINK IT'S MORE LIKE FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE IN IT.
IT'S 3, 3 37 IS MOST OF IT IS THAT IS IN 10, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS WHOLE AND IN THE CITY.
AND, UM, BUT, BUT IT WOULD HAVE HAD, WE'D DONE IT AND WE'D DONE IT THAT WAY.
UM, UM, HAD WE NOT MOVED THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NON-CONTIGUOUS SO, UM, I THINK IT SHOULD BE MOVED SO WE CAN KEEP THE DISTRICT CONTIGUOUS.
THANK YOU, MR. CORBELL FOR VICE CIRCUMSTANCES.
SO I I'M IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT ON THIS.
UM, I'M CURIOUS IF THE, ARE YOU MOVING, UM, IS THE IDEA TO INCREASE THE ASIAN REPRESENTATION IN DISTRICT SIX? CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, YEAH, OF COURSE.
UH, SO CURRENTLY, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE PRELIMINARY MAP THAT WE WERE SHOWING, UH, MR. CORE, THE POPULATION OF THE ASIAN, ACCORDING TO HIS DATA SHEET OR HOVERED ABOUT 22 TO 23%.
UM, CURRENTLY, IF WE EVEN LOOK AT THE MOTION THAT WE PASS FOR DISTRICT ONE THAT HAS A SIMILAR POPULATION FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY, UM, IN THE, IN THE BLACK, UH, OPPORTUNITY DISTRICT, IT'S A HOVER IN ABOUT 20%.
SO AGAIN, THOUGH, THE ASIAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY ARE NOT PROTECTED BY THE VRA.
UM, IT STILL IS A COMMUNITY ENTRANCE THERE AND IT EVENTUALLY COULD, UH, BECOME AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISTRICT OF SORTS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SNYDER.
UM, ALL I WANT TO APPROVE OF THE MOTION THAT YOU'RE MAKING, BECAUSE I TOO WANT TO HELP GROW A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST.
IS THERE A MOTION? I DON'T THINK THAT WAS A MOTION YET, CORRECT.
AND HE WAS JUST EXPLAINING HIS RECOMMENDATION AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE MOTION, TO ACCEPT A RECOMMENDATION, TO MOVE PRECINCT THREE TO SIX.
AND IN THE PART OF 3, 3, 7 FROM DISTRICT 10 TO DISTRICT SIX COMMISSIONER FALCO AND SECONDS.
SO IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE PUT A BTD 3 26 AND A SMALL PORTION OF 3 37 INTO DISTRICT SIX.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE? OKAY.
THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MOTION THAT WE PUT VTD 3 26 AND PART OF 3 37 INTO DISTRICT SIX, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, AYE, AYE.
WE HAVE, UH, ONE MORE RECOMMENDATION RELATED TO DISTRICT 10.
THIS ALSO RELATES TO DISTRICT NINE, AND THIS IS PUTTING VTD TWO 50 INTO DISTRICT 10, UH, BY VICE-CHAIR GONZALEZ.
I WILL ALLOW HIM TO EXPLAIN HIS RECOMMENDATION.
BEFORE I EXPLAIN MY, UM, JUSTIFICATION HERE, I WAS ASKING IF MR. KORBEL COULD GIVE US THE CURRENT POPULATION TABULATIONS OF DISTRICT NINE AND DISTRICT 10, PLEASE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY CURRENT HOW IT IS ON THE MAP RIGHT NOW, SIR.
UM, WELL THE CHAIN WITH THE CHANGES YOU'VE MADE 10 IS NOW 97,685.
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AND, UM, NINE IS, IT IS 94,000.SO THIS WOULD, THIS MOON WOULD WORK.
UM, MY JUSTIFICATION FOR MOVING TWO 50 FROM THE NINE TO THE 10 WAS ALSO POPULATION, UH, WITH BEFORE, BEFORE THE CHANGE, UH, DISTRICT NINE STOOD AT AN OVER 101,000, THERE IS A POPULATION OF 7,415 RESIDENTS IN VTD, TWO 50.
UM, BEFORE THE CHANGE DISTRICT 10 WAS UNDERPOPULATED, IT WAS AT 90,000.
SO AGAIN, WITH THE SHIFT OF 7,000 RESIDENTS FROM A NEIGHBORING OVERPOPULATED DISTRICT OR A LITTLE HIGHER THAN, UM, DESIRE DEVIATION, WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE BALANCED NUMBERS WITH THIS CHANGE AS MR. KORBEL LAID OUT RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, POPULATION SHIFT, MORE QUESTIONS FOR VICE-CHAIR GONZALEZ ABOUT THIS RECOMMENDATION COMMISSIONER BLANK.
I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, GIVEN WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS, I'M PRETTY OPEN TO MOST CHANGES AS WE'RE STILL GOING TO TAKE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT AND MORE FEEDBACK.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I TAKE THAT AS THE SPIRIT OF THIS IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO A REALLY GOOD STARTING POINT IN SOME WAYS.
I WONDER THOUGH, IF YOU COULD JUST TALK MORE ABOUT KIND OF THE LOGIC IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITIES, AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE POPULATION REALLY JUST MOVING.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE POPULATION MOVEMENTS ARE KIND OF MINIMAL.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU COULD TELL ME JUST YOUR VIEW OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE LOGIC, YOU KNOW, FROM A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST STANDPOINT WOULD BE IN MOVING TO 50 OUT OF NINE AND THEN TO 10.
YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT THAT THE SOUTHERN, THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF DISTRICT TENANT AS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 10, THE SOUTHERN PORTION, UH, OR, OR TIP OF DISTRICT 10, DOES SHARE MORE URBAN CORE, UM, KIND OF COMMUNITY VIBE, UH, SIMILAR TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WHICH IS ENCOMPASSES MOST OF DISTRICT NINE OR ALL OF DISTRICT NINE.
UM, SO THE SHIFT, UM, UM, WOULD BE IN A SIMILAR COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD, IN MY OPINION, UM, ALSO, UH, VTD TWO 50, IT IS STILL NORTH OF THE LAKE, WHICH IS REMAINS THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF DISTRICT 10.
SO IT KIND OF STAYS WITHIN YOUR GEOGRAPHIC.
UM, WHAT WAS THE WORD AGAIN? THANK YOU.
UM, SO FOR THOSE, UH, POPULATION SHIFTS SIMILAR, UH, URBAN CORE ENVIRONMENTS NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, THE FACT THAT THAT IS A FAST GROWING AREA, UM, DOWNTOWN AREA, UH, THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND TARA AND THE TARRYTOWN AREA, WHICH IS NEIGHBORING, UH,
YOU REMINDING US, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY MAP THAT WE'LL GO THROUGH EIGHT MORE PUBLIC FORUMS AND MUCH MORE TESTIMONY, AND IT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT.
I APPRECIATE THE MOVE AND THAT IT WOULD HELP WITH THE POPULATION, UM, BALANCING, BUT, UM, THAT'S ACTUALLY MY FORMER ADDRESS AND I FEEL THAT IT'S THE, IT WOULD BE SPLITTING A COMMUNITY.
I FEEL THAT TWO 50 SHOULD STAY WITH DISTRICT NINE COMMISSIONER CANNON.
UM, I THINK I HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO, AND I THINK I'M KIND OF FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA AND TO COMMISSION A PAUL CONN'S POINT.
DO WE KNOW WHAT ENCOMPASSES PRECINCT TWO 50? YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, OUTSIDE OF JUST A POPULATION AND WHAT, LIKE, I THINK I KNOW WHO SHOULD HAVE THE RESULTS.
CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE MORE ABOUT LIKE, AS YOU THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND YOU SAID THERE'S SIMILAR POPULATION.
I SAID THIS YEAR, IT SHARES A SIMILAR URBAN CORE FIVE AND NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T HAVE, UH, CURRENTLY THE DATA ON SOCIAL ECONOMIC STATUS.
IS THAT WHAT YOUR QUESTION? OH, NOT THAT I, I THINK IT'S JUST UNDERSTANDING, IS THERE ANY PHYSICAL ARCH OF DISNEY, OTHER PARTS? ARE THERE THINGS THAT ARE MOVING WITH THIS? LIKE WHAT ARE THE DIVIDING LINES, WOULD THAT IMPACT THAT NEIGHBOR? I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE MORE RESEARCH.
I LET HER DATE, BUT NOT SURE ABOUT THE PARKS, IF YOU, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, ANY GREEN SPACES IN THAT AREA, PLEASE SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION, SIR, COMMISSIONER FALCONE AND THEN CONSTRAINED BLANK.
I CAN, UM, THAT AREA, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, IT'S SORT OF, I THINK MY ISSUE WITH IT IS THAT IT'S THE PART OF DOWNTOWN, THAT'S KIND OF WEST OF LAMAR, BUT EAST OF MOPAC.
UM, SO WHILE MOPAC IS NOT A NATURAL BOUNDARY, IT IS CERTAINLY A MAN-MADE ONE.
UM, THAT IS WELL, YOU KNOW, VERY WELL DISTINGUISHED IN AUSTIN.
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WHY I'M SAYING TO LEAVE IT AS IS.I THINK IF THERE WERE A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT MOVING A DIFFERENT PART OF D NINE TO D 10, BUT I FEEL THAT TO BUY SHARED GONZALES GONZALES'S THAT IS CERTAINLY A, OF WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER LIKE THE DOWNTOWN OF AUSTIN.
AND I FEEL THAT SEPARATING IT, UM, WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE YOU'RE BLANK.
I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH THIS ONE.
I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I, IT SEEMS, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER FALCON AND THAT I LOOK AT THAT DISTRICT AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, I COULD SAY THE TWO 50 DEFINITELY IS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY DEALING WITH THE DOWNTOWN URBAN CORE ISSUES, AND I'D SAY TWO 50 CERTAINLY LOOKS A LOT LIKE 2 51, PROBABLY FOR THE MOST PART, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE MAKEUP AND, AND MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LIKE TWO 10, BUT IN SOME WAYS IT'S THAT SOUTHERN PART OF DISTRICT 10, THAT'S KIND OF THE ODD PART OUT OF DISTRICT 10, RIGHT.
AND THAT'S, I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, IF I LOOK AT IT AND I SAY, YOU KNOW, 2 56 TO 10 TO 51 TO 50 ALL LOOK PRETTY SIMILAR SOUTH OF 35TH STREET, YOU START TO GET AT NORTHWEST INTO DISTRICT 10 AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF THE LOOK AND THE FEEL OF IT.
UM, MY ONLY OTHER CON, YOU KNOW, SO PARTLY I WONDER WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT EXACTLY WHAT PROBLEM WE'RE DEALING WITH IN SOME WAYS THERE A POPULATION.
BUT THEN THE OTHER THING I GUESS I WORRY ABOUT IS THAT IF D 10 HAS ALREADY EXPANDED FURTHER NORTHWEST, AND WE'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UH, CONTINUALLY SPREADING THEN SOUTHEAST AND GETTING A LITTLE BIG, ALTHOUGH AGAIN, I, I JUSTIFIED THE CHANGE THAT I WAS FOR WITH RESPECT TO FUTURE POPULATION GROWTH.
AND THE REALITY IS THAT MAY ALSO AFFECT DISTRICT 10 IN SIMILAR WAYS.
SO I'M, I'M CERTAINLY OPEN TO IT, BUT I'M JUST HAVING TROUBLE WITH IT.
OFFER POINTS, APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT NO PACK IS CERTAIN DISTRICTS DO CROSS OVER MOPAC, UM, TO COMMISSIONER FEC ONE'S POINT.
AND I BELIEVE DISTRICT NINE GOES OVER INTO DISTRICT 10, PASS, MIDDLE PACK.
WE JUST CORRECTED KIND OF A PREVIOUS ONE WITH DISTRICT SEVEN AND DISTRICT 10 IN TERMS OF THE ALLEN'S ON NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IF YOU LOOK KIND OF A LITTLE NORTH WITH MOPAC 180 3 DISTRICT SEVEN, UM, OH, WE JUST CORRECTED THAT.
UM, WE DO HA I MEAN, MOPAC IS NOT AN IMPERMEABLE BOUNDARY, BUT IN THAT PARTICULAR STRETCH OF IT, I THINK IT HAS A LOT OF IMPORTANCE.
I WAS GONNA, UM, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING AND WOULD LIKE A CLEAR PRESENTATION OF WHAT IS THE RESTAURANT NOW FOR, FOR MAKING THE MOVE? I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT QUESTION DOES IT ANSWER OR WHAT, WHAT ISSUE DOES IT SOLVE? I'LL LET,
COMMISSIONER WISE, MY NUMBER ONE REASON WAS AGAIN FOR A REASONABLY EQUAL BETWEEN DISTRICTS, UH, BEFORE THE CHANGE HAPPENED.
IF MR
CURRENTLY, I BELIEVE THE NUMBER WAS 97,000.
IF YOU TAKE OUT THAT IF YOU TAKE TWO 50 OUT OF DISTRICT 10, THAT'D BE 7,415 PEOPLE.
THE POPULATION OF DISTRICT 10 WOULD BE ABOUT 90,000.
I HAVE THAT CORRECT IF WE LEAVE IT WITHIN DISTRICT NINE, WHICH WAS KIND OF ALREADY OVERPOPULATED, I BELIEVE THE POPULATION WOULD BE AT ONE NEARLY 102,000, WHICH WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OVER THAN DESIRED DEVIATION OF POPULATION.
THAT WAS THE MAIN SHOULD BE OPT TO THE TRANSPARENT WITH EVERYONE.
THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR ME TO SUGGEST JUST CHANGE WAS A POPULATION BALANCE BETWEEN A NEIGHBORING DISTRICT AND DISTRICTS ONE THAT WAS UNDERPOPULATED, AND ONE THAT WAS OVERPOPULATED.
AND ALSO THIS IS JUST TO GET, GET US STARTED.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE RESEARCH AND EDUCATION ABOUT THIS PRECINCT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. KORBEL, UM, ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THERE ABOUT THAT POTENTIAL CHANGE? UM, WELL, UH, WE DO HAVE TO MOVE POPULATION INTO 10, UM, AND, UM, UM, THIS, UM, VTD THAT, THAT HE MOVED HAS GOT, HAS GOT A 7,400 POPULATION.
UM, SO IT, IT SORT OF FIXES THE POPULATION ON, ON THE WHOLE, ON THE REST OF THE MAP.
UM, IF WE DON'T MOVE THIS, WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ONE OF THESE OTHER, UM, PRECINCTS 10.
COMMISSIONER YE AND THEN COMMISSIONER, MY APOLOGIES IF
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THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AND I JUST DIDN'T NOTICE THAT, DID WE CONSIDER 2, 2 14 BECAUSE IT'S MR. KORBEL? UM, I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE IS TWO 14 RIGHT NOW.UM, WE CAN'T SEE WHAT IS ON YOUR SCREEN AT THE MOMENT.
AND IT'S VERY MUCH, UH, IT'S GOT A LOT OF BOUNDARIES WITH DISTRICT 10.
I THINK I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS EFFECTIVE BECAUSE THE THING ABOUT TWO 50 IS IT'S VERY DENSELY POPULATED.
UM, AND TWO 14 IS NOT AS DENSELY POPULATED.
SO THAT'S, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE ISSUE.
MAY I CONTINUE WITH ANOTHER POINT? THE OTHER POINT I WAS GONNA MAKE IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PUT SOMETHING ON THE MAP, WE GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT IT.
AND SO WE COULD PUT IT ON THE MAP AND IN AN EFFORT TO GET FEEDBACK OF HOW TO BALANCE THE TWO DISTRICTS.
UM, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T MAKE THE MOVE RIGHT NOW, THEN NOBODY'S GOING TO COME GIVE US FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS MOVE IT, SEE WHAT FEEDBACK WE GET, EXPLORE OTHER OPTIONS FOR BALANCING THE TWO AND GO FROM THERE.
BUT I JUST THINK IF WE, IF WE DON'T MOVE IT, NO ONE'S GOING TO COME TALK TO US ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR, UM, VOTING TABULATION DISTRICT COMMISSIONER CANNON, I THINK TO THAT EFFECT, I THINK THERE'S A PRECINCT 2 46 TO 28 AND 2 67.
WOULD THOSE HAVE A POPULATION DISTRIBUTION ENOUGH TO, IF WE MOVE THOSE TO DISTRICT 10 TO MAKE UP FOR THAT BALANCE, WE ALREADY MADE A MOTION ON 2 46.
SORRY TO, WE HAVE TWO, IS THIS LIKE THE, THE WESTERN TIP OF TWO 14 TO CONSIDER POTENTIALLY TO MOVE? CAUSE THAT SEEMS SPLIT ON PAD.
THAT'S WHAT COMMISSIONER YOU JUST ASKED ABOUT NOW? I THINK SHE'S ASKED FOR THE WHOLE PART OF IT, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S LIKE THE WESTERN PART OF IT.
LIKE WE DID PARTIAL PRECINCTS.
I'M JUST SUGGESTING A PARTIAL PRECINCT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POPULATION, THE WESTERN PART DOESN'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANY HOUSES IN IT.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO.
UM, IF WE DON'T MAKE THAT MOVE, AS I SAY, WE GOT TO MAKE SOME OTHER MOVES AND, UM, UM, WE CAN, WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT TH THERE WILL HAVE TO BE ANOTHER MOVE IF WE DON'T MAKE THAT MOVE I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SUGGESTION OF A COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ TO, UH, MOVE TWO 50 TO 10.
SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO PUT VTD TWO 50 INTO DISTRICT 10.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE? I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THAT WILL GIVE US THE BEST FEEDBACK ON WHAT TO DO WITH THAT DISTRICT PRESSURE BLANK.
I, I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER FALCON'S POINT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE DISCUSSING.
THIS IS ESTABLISHING SOMETHING AGAIN.
I'M NOT SURE IF I AGREE WITH THIS, BUT WE WILL DEFINITELY GET FEEDBACK ABOUT IT.
AND SO I THINK AS WE WERE ALL LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM AT EACH OTHER, THINKING, OKAY, THIS IS, WE'RE PUTTING A PIN IN THIS, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO COME BACK TO IT.
I'LL HAVE VICE-CHAIR, CONSELLA SPEAK.
AND THEN YOU APPRECIATE IT AGAIN.
I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE.
I THINK THIS WILL, UH, DEVELOP SOME REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK AT OUR RF TEACHER FORUMS AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT IN THE NEXT ROUND.
UM, I JUST ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT IN TALKING TO MR. CORBELL, I DID CONSIDER, OR I DID LOOK INTO, UM, PRECINCTS 2, 5, 1 TO 10 TO 56 AND TO DENINE KIND OF THAT SHIFT TO TARRYTOWN, I DO FEEL LIKE THESE ARE VERY SIMILAR AREAS AND THOSE ARE VERY DENSELY POPULATED AREAS.
UM, SO IT WOULD HAVE KIND OF TIPPED THE BALANCE.
UM, SO IT'S A, IT'S A VERY INTERESTING AREA OF TARRYTOWN.
WE'VE HEARD, UH, IN ABOUT A FEW OF OUR PREVIOUS PUBLIC FORM COMMENTS, THAT AREA.
UM, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT'S MOVING FORWARD TO GET US TO A PRELIMINARY DRAFT, UH, BASED ON
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A BALANCED POPULATION.I LOOK FORWARD TO RESEARCHING MORE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR VTV, LET'S SEE THE BEST DECISION MOVING FORWARD.
UM, THIS ACTUALLY BRANCHES OFF OF WELL DO, IT'S JUST SAID, BUT, UM, CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM MR. CORVEL, UM, WHERE TARRYTOWN CURRENTLY IS LOCATED? UM, IS IT STILL CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT 10? YES, IT'S IN DISTRICT 10.
IT WOULD BE, THIS WOULD BE, IF YOU CAN SEE IT IN THESE THREE PRECINCTS, I BELIEVE OUR TARRYTOWN.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE? OKAY.
THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MOTION THAT WE PUT VTD TWO 50 INTO DISTRICTS, 10 THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, AYE, AYE.
THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO, THE AYES HAVE IT IN.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO RECOMMENDATIONS PERTAINING TO DISTRICT SIX.
UH, THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT'S BETWEEN DISTRICT SIX AND DISTRICT SEVEN.
AND THIS IS PUT FORTH BY COMMISSIONER FALCON AND COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, BOTH MADE THIS RECOMMENDATION TO PUT PART OF VTD 2 28, UM, INTO EITHER DISTRICT SIX FOR DISTRICT SEVEN, AS LONG AS, UH, BALCONIES WOODS IS CONSOLIDATED.
UM, COMMISSIONER FALCON, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER TO SPEAK TO THAT, MR. SCHNEIDER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT RECOMMENDATION? PART OF BALCONIES WOODS IS IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
I LIVE FOUR BLOCKS AWAY AND I'M IN DISTRICT SIX AND WE HAD A, UH, GENTLEMEN TESTIFY IN A MUCH EARLIER MEETING THAT, UM, HE WAS CONCERNED.
HE DIDN'T MEAN TO USE THAT WORD.
HE SAID CONFUSED AS TO WHY IT WAS DIVIDED.
AND I THINK THE RESPONSE WAS THAT IT HAD BEEN DONE TO EQUALIZE POPULATION, UH, EIGHT YEARS AGO.
MY ONLY POINT IS THAT I THINK THE DEED RESTRICTED COMMUNITY OF BALCONIES WOODS, WHICH CONTAINS NO APARTMENTS, NO CHURCHES, NO SHOPPING CENTERS, ONLY RESIDENCES, INDIVIDUAL RESIDENCES WANT TO BE IN ONE DISTRICT SINCE I LIVED IN DISTRICT SIX, I PROPOSE TO LOUIS, UM, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ THAT IT'D BE IN DISTRICT SIX.
I HAVE NO PARTICULAR COMPUNCTION ABOUT THAT.
IT COULD BE JUST AS WELL IN DISTRICT SEVEN, COMMISSIONER FALCON.
UH, THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY WAS IN FAVOR OF HAVING IT IN DISTRICT SIX AS WAS COMMISSIONER SNYDER'S RECOMMENDATION.
UM, IN LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, I DID SEE THAT, UM, PERHAPS IT AROSE BECAUSE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS ACTUALLY SPLIT IN PRECINCTS.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHICH CAME FIRST, THE PRECINCT OR THE DISTRICT, BUT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO ALSO EXPLORE THAT FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, SIR.
BUT I AM IN COMPLETE SUPPORT OF CONSOLIDATING THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I AM CLEARLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD PERSON TODAY AND, UM, MOVING THOSE HOUSEHOLDS TO DISTRICT SIX, MR. CORWELL, CAN YOU POINT ON THE MAP TO WHERE OR WHICH SECTION OF VTD 2 28 WOULD BE CONSOLIDATED? UM, JUST A MOMENT Y'ALL LOOKS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO GET UP ON THE SCREEN.
I CAN SPEAK TO IT IF THAT'S HELPFUL AT ALL.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COMING, BUT IT'S JUST NORTHWEST OF, UH, WHERE MOPAC CROSSES A BREAKER LANE.
AND IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THERE IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THERE AND THAT THE V THE PRECINCT IS SPLIT
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BETWEEN 2 67 AND 2 28.IF I CAN SHOW YOU HERE, UM, IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO SEE THIS AT THE BLOCK LEVEL.
UM, THE SUBDIVISION IS, AND IT WAS BEFORE IT WAS SPLIT BY THE WE'RE SPLIT BY THIS, BY THIS, BY THIS LINE.
BUT SUBDIVISION IS IN THIS HALF, IN, IN ONE AND HALF IN THE OTHER.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO PUT THAT BACK TOGETHER AGAIN.
AND, UM, UM, IT IS 90% ASIAN, THE SUBDIVISION.
AND, UM, IF, IF WE PUT IT IN SIX SIXES, UM, THE MOST HEAVILY ASIAN, AND IT WOULD SLIGHTLY REDUCE THE ASIAN POPULATION.
UM, SO IT, TO ME, IT MAKES SENSE IN, UM, MAKE SENSE BEING TOGETHER.
THEN IT MEANT TO ME, IT MAKES MORE SENSE BEING IN SEVEN.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER FALCO? I THOUGHT THAT, UM, WE HAD JUST MOVED SOME AREAS INTO SIX TO FORM THE, TO BUILD THE ASIAN COMMUNITY AND SIX.
SO I GUESS I'M JUST CONFUSED WHY WE WOULD MOVE IT INTO SEVEN I'M IN SUPPORT OF MOVING IT TO SIX I'M WITH COMMISSIONER POPCORN.
I THINK THAT WOULD SUPPORT MOVING INTO THE SIXTH, BUT I THINK IF I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION, BUT I WANT TO GET CLARITY THAT WE CAN'T JUST MOVE TO 28, 2 D SIX, CAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE CONTIGUOUS.
WE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE TO 67 ALSO TO MAKE IT CONTIGUOUS WITH THESE SIX, SORRY, 2 67, 2 28 AND 2 67.
CAUSE I THINK IF YOU DON'T MOVE TO 67, IT WOULDN'T BE CONTIGUOUS.
2 67, NOT 2 22 67 IS ALREADY IN D SIX.
UM, MAYBE I HAVE AN OUTDATED MAP.
THIS ONE SAYS IT'S IN DC ON OUR MAPS.
IT SHOWS THAT 2 67 IS COLORED THE SAME COLOR AS DISTRICT SEVEN.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY CLARIFICATION COMMISSIONER.
LET'S ASK MR. KORBEL VERY QUICKLY.
MR. CORBELL IS VTD 2 67 IN DISTRICT SIX CURRENTLY OR IN, IN THE EXISTING PLAN.
UH, 2 67 WAS IN DISTRICT SIX AND THE OTHER HALF OF THE SUBDIVISION WAS IN TWO, WAS IN DISTRICT SEVEN.
AND UM, THIS PUTS THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION IN DISTRICT SEVEN, UH, HALL.
AND, UH, I, I, UH, HAD A LONG DISCUSSION WITH, WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER AND, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
THAT IS HE IS ALL RIGHT WITH, UM, THE SUBDIVISION BEING IN SEVEN RATHER THAN SIX BLANK, JUST TO CLARIFY.
CAUSE I THINK WE'RE MAYBE A LITTLE CROSSWISE HERE.
SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM WHAT MR. CORBELL SAID, IF WE MOVE, WE WERE TO MOVE DISTRICTS TO 67 AND I WAS PART OF 2 28, 28 INTO DISTRICT SIX, THE EFFECT OF THAT WOULD BE TO DECREASE THE SHARE OF THE POPULATION THAT IS ASIAN NOT TO INCREASE IT.
SO IT'S NOT, IF WE MOVE THOSE INTO DISTRICT SIX, THAT WILL ACTUALLY DECREASE THE SHARE OF THE POPULATION IN DISTRICT SIX, THAT IS ASIAN.
SO IT, BECAUSE IT JUST PERCENT, BECAUSE THERE ARE LOW SHARE OF THE POPULATION WITHIN THOSE PRE-SALES AND SO WE MOVE IT IN AND WE'RE MOVING IN MORE NON-ASIANS SO JUST, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLARIFIED, CAUSE YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU PREFER TO MOVE IT INTO
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WOULD DECREASE ASIAN REPRESENTATION IF WE MOVED THOSE INTO THE SEX.AND THIS IS BECAUSE IT IS A PREDOMINANTLY WHITE VTD.
IS THAT THE REASON ASIAN? I'M SORRY.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT THIS MAP INCLUDES THE PROPOSALS.
SO THIS MAP HAS 2 67 IN DISTRICT SEVEN, BUT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM MR CORWELL WAS THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS 9% ASIAN.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER SNYDER? YEAH.
THE MOTION IS TO, UH, IT WAS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KANAAN.
UM, IT HAS MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE MOVE BALCONIES WOODS INTO DISTRICT SEVEN.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE? OKAY.
THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MOTION THAT WE PUT THE BALCONIES WAS NEIGHBORHOOD INTO DISTRICT SEVEN, UH, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, AYE, AYE.
AND THE MOTION IS ADOPTED COMMISSIONER BLINK.
I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY.
WHO'S POINTING OUT THESE NEIGHBORHOOD DISCREPANCIES BECAUSE I KNOW IF YOU ALL BEEN READING EMAILS, WE GET THESE EMAILS ALL THE TIME.
IT SEEMS WITH PEOPLE SAYING THAT WE'RE SPLITTING NEIGHBORHOODS OR THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SPLIT.
AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AND WORKING ON THIS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER BEEN ANYBODY'S INTENTION HERE.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS THE INTENTION OF THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION TO SPLIT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY COULD AVOID IT.
AND SO JUST DO, THEY SAID THAT PEOPLE ARE LISTENING OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY THINK THAT WE ARE INTENTIONALLY SPLITTING ANY NEIGHBORHOODS.
PLEASE COME AND TELL US THAT WE'VE DONE IT.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT EXPLICITLY.
AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE PROBABLY AGREE WITH THAT HERE.
AND I THINK OUR COMMISSIONER HAS MADE THAT VERY CLEAR TONIGHT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THESE NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER.
SO THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BLANK.
WE HAVE ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION PERTAINING TO DISTRICT SEVEN, UM, AND DISTRICT SIX, THIS IS TO MOVE BTDS 2 54 AND 2 0 7 INTO DISTRICTS SAID THEN, AND THAT IS FROM COMMISSIONER FALCON.
SO I'LL LET HER EXPLAIN HER RECOMMENDATION.
UH, I'D LIKE TO WITHDRAW THAT RECOMMENDATIONS.
THANK YOU, MR. YE YOU ALL, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
UM, I DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T SINK IN, UM, THAT THE MOTION THAT COMMISSIONER LANDS MADE FOR 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR WOULD, UM, PRECLUDE DISCUSSION OF, UM, I DID HAVE A SUGGESTION FOR DISTRICT ONE, AND I'M WONDERING IF IT'S TOO LATE TO, TO BRING THAT UP SINCE WE ALREADY AGREED TO ADOPT THE CHANGES, UH, THAT WERE, I GUESS AGREED UPON BETWEEN, UH, MR. PECK AND MR. KORBEL, UH, COMMISSIONER, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THOSE CHANGES.
I THINK THAT THOSE DISTRICTS ARE NOW SET FOR, FOR THE TIME BEING.
UM, IT, IT WOULD THE INTEGRITY OF THOSE OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS AT THIS TIME.
UM, SO IF I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT, UH, I GUESS CHANGE OR SUGGESTION TO BE REVIEWED, UH, WOULD I JUST BRING THAT UP AT A LATER DATE? OKAY, THANKS.
UM, SO THAT IS, UM, I DO WANT TO REVISIT ONE THAT HAD NOT BEEN I'M SO SORRY.
I DO WANT TO REVISIT ONE RECOMMENDATION THAT, UM, HAS TO DO WITH DISTRICT NINE.
AND THIS IS FROM COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL TO, UH, SPLIT VTD 3 25 BY MOVING WATERLOO PARK INTO DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN THAT RECOMMENDATION CHAIR, UM, COMMISSIONER YOUR CELLPHONE? YEAH, I THINK IN THE SAME LOGIC THAT WE HAD
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SET DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FOUR, AND DIDN'T GIVE COMMISSIONER YE THE OPPORTUNITY.I THINK THAT THIS ONE SHOULD ALSO BE TABLE TO FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. CORWELL.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS DOESN'T INVOLVE A LOT OF POPULATION AND THAT'S THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THESE TWO, BUT, UM, LET'S, LET'S GET MR. PORTABLES CORRECTION ON THAT, BUT I STILL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, UM, JUST FROM COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL, UM, MR. PORTAL, UM, IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, UM, THIS, THIS AREA IS, UH, LYNDON JOHNSON SCHOOL AND THERE'S NO POPULATION HERE.
AND THIS AREA I THINK IS THE, IS THAT PARK THAT IS, UM, BETWEEN THE CAPITAL AND 35.
AND, UH, THERE WAS NO POPULATION HERE AND IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WAS THE PARK THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER, UM, UM, UH, CAMPBELL WANTED THAT.
I THINK, I THINK THAT THAT'S, IF IT IS WATERLOO PARK IT'S RIGHT BY TRINITY STREET, THEN YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
MR. CAMPBELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN YOUR RECOMMENDATION? UM, YES, IT'S, IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
UM, I THINK THAT IN TERMS OF DISTRICT ONE, YOU KNOW, AS FOR PRIORITIZING MINORITY DISTRICTS, UM, AS WE VOTED ON BEFORE, UM, I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN DISTRICT ONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CAPITOL, I DO AGREE WITH THAT.
UM, DISTRICT NINE, YOU KNOW, THE SOCIOECONOMIC PROFILE OF THAT AREA MAY BE BETTER SUITED TO DISTRICT NINE.
HOWEVER, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP, UM, WATERLOO PARK AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LONG TRINITY STREET IN EAST OF THAT, WHICH INCLUDES WATERLOO, WATERLOO PARK PART OF IT.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S ON A VERY COMPLICATED REASON, BUT, UM, IN MY OPINION, WE SHOULD KEEP AS MANY GREEN SPACES AS POSSIBLE IN MINORITY DISTRICTS.
OF COURSE IT'S NOT A MINORITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF, YOU KNOW, ONCE A COMMUNITY GETS TOGETHER, UM, DECIDE TO VOTE FOR SOMEBODY TO REPRESENT THEM.
I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA TO HAVE, UM, GREEN SPACES IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, RIGHT ALONG THIS LINE, THE TOP LINE AND DISTRICT ONE IS TRINITY STREET.
SO I THINK THAT THAT IS THE PART THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
YES, IT SHOULD BE BY, UM, TRINITY STRAIGHT.
IT'S IT'S UM, UM, TRINITY STREET IS THE, IS THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.
SO WAS IT, I'M SORRY I MISSED YOUR CALL, BUT I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK.
I THINK IT WAS WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING ON SUNDAY.
UM, I THINK THERE WAS MAYBE A LITTLE, UM, I'M SORRY.
WHO'S SPEAKING, YOU'RE SPEAKING.
SO WHEN I WAS SPEAKING WITH MR. CALDWELL, UM, I DECIDED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE WE WERE CONSIDERING SOME CHANGES BETWEEN NINE AND 10.
SO IF IT CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, WAS CHANGED OR LOOKED AT WITH NAACP AND IT CURRENTLY IS PART OF THE MO THEN I GUESS, UM, WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT ISN'T PRECINCT 3 25.
SO IF IT'S BEEN CHANGED BETWEEN OUR CONVERSATION OR, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE IN THERE, THEN THAT'S TOTALLY FINE WITH ME.
THAT'S WHAT PREVIOUSLY, UM, ALL OF 'EM, UH, THIS PRECINCT, UM, NINE I THINK, OR THIS, THIS PRECINCT, UM, UH, 3 25 WAS IN, WAS IN, UM, ONE, BUT THERE'S POPULATION IN THERE.
AND SO THIS IS SET UP SO THAT NONE OF THE POPULATIONS MOVED JUST TO PARK.
UM, WHEN I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER FAKO AND SAID, IF WE ALREADY VOTED ON AN AGREED ON DISTRICTS, ONE THROUGH FOUR, AND THAT'S ALREADY SET AND WE CAN ACCOMMODATE COMMISSIONER E'S REQUEST TO CHANGE SOMETHING, WE SHOULD NOT CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION.
THIS SEEMS LIKE WE'RE NOW HAVING PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT ON MOTIONS.
UM, MADAM CHAIR, CAN I PLEASE RESPOND? UM, THE HEAD COMMISSIONER KAMBO YEAH, I JUST, I WASN'T 100% SURE.
MR. CORBO CAN YOU PLEASE, UM, REITERATE ONE MORE TIME? IS THE PARK CURRENTLY PART OF THE
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MAP? OF COURSE, I DO NOT WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.UM, IF IT ALREADY IS PART OF THEM UP AND I CAN WAIT UNTIL ANOTHER DATE, BUT THE WHOLE FACT IS OF COURSE, UM, DISTRICT NINE IS AFFECTED BY EVERY DISTRICT EXCEPT FOR TWO.
SO FOR ME TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION HERE, I KNOW WE VOTED ON IT ALREADY, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SAY ANYTHING FOR DISTRICT NINE.
SO I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
AND, UM, IF THERE ARE CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE AT, AT A LATER DATE, THAT'S FINE.
BUT I JUST THINK I SUBMITTED MY RECOMMENDATIONS BEFOREHAND.
SO I THINK THAT THESE ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS AREN'T GOING AGAINST ANYTHING BASED ON, UH, THE STRUCTURE THAT WE SET IN PLACE OVER EMAIL ON THEM NOW, UM, IN PERSON.
UM, I APPRECIATE THAT COMMISSIONER.
KAMBO SENT THIS IN ADVANCE, SO TO COMMISSIONER YE SO I AM AN AGREEMENT THAT WE SHOULD NOT GIVE TREATMENT TO ONE MOTION OVER THE OTHER COMMISSIONER CANNON.
I THINK IF WE GO BACK TO THE VOTING RECORDS ON THE MOTIONS WE MADE FOR DISTRICT ONE THROUGH FOUR, WE HAD MAJORITY AND EVERYBODY VOTED ON THAT.
SO I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S ALREADY LOCKED FOR NOW AND WE AGREED FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT WAS UP FOR DEBATE.
SO EVEN HAVING THAT DEBATE, I THINK GOES AGAINST WHAT WE AGREED.
I WAS ATTEMPTING NOT TO ENGAGE IN THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE I WAS EMOTIONAL.
BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW ROBERT RULES OF THE POEM, PARLIAMENTARY PROCEDURE, THEN WE'VE GOT TO DO IT DOWN THE FULL LINE WE GET, MAKE UP.
SO WE FOLLOWED ROBERT RULES, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SAID, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE ARE.
AND, AND, UH, ALL OF THE PERMISSIONS THAT HAVE MADE THE STATEMENTS THAT IT'S A DONE DEAL.
THERE'S NO REASON TO GO BACK AND REFERENCE A THREE-MONTH.
ACCORDING TO THE RULE, UH, MADAME CHAIRMAN, I SEE ONE MORE THING.
UM, I'M GOING TO, I'M CALLING ON COMMISSIONER BLANK VERY QUICKLY, AND THEN I'LL COME TO YOU.
YEAH, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS UNFORTUNATE.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE, I MEAN, THIS IS THE CURRENT MAP.
IT LOOKS LIKE WATERLOO PARK WOULD BE INCLUDED IN DISTRICT ONE, AS YOU'RE SUGGESTING, BASED ON, I'M JUST, I'M LOOKING AT MY GOOGLE MAPS.
I MEAN, IF ANYBODY ELSE CAN CHECK THE COMPUTER, JUST TO MAKE SURE THIS LOOKS RIGHT, JUST TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
WE ARE TRYING TO FOLLOW A PROCEDURE.
THE OTHER PIECE HERE IS I'M TORN BETWEEN THE IDEA OF LIKE, WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS THESE MAPS.
IF WE HAVE IDEAS, WE SHOULD DISCUSS IT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE FOLLOWING A SORT OF RULES OF PROCEDURES THAT WE'VE ALL AGREED TO.
AND THE OTHER PIECE IS WE ARE GOING, THIS IS NOT THE END OF THIS PROCESS.
WE ARE GOING TO RETURN TO THIS.
THE POINT IS JUST TO GET A MAP THAT WE ARE AS A GROUP, READY TO BRING BEFORE THE PUBLIC TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AGAIN.
SO THIS IS NOT THE END OF THIS.
THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ANYBODY'S CHANCE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS MAP.
THERE'S MANY MORE CHANCES TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE MAP BY EVERYBODY ON THIS COMMISSION AND PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC.
SO FOR THE SAKE OF MOVING FORWARD, I SUGGEST WE MOVE FORWARD.
BUT I ALSO THINK TO ANSWER YOUR SUBSTANTIVE QUESTION, IT DOES LOOK LIKE WATERLOO PARK IS IN DISTRICT ONE AT THIS MAP.
UM, THANK YOU, MR. CORVEL FOR, UM, MAKING THAT CORRECTION.
UM, AS I SAID, I WAS IN A DISCUSSION WITH MR. KORBEL ON SUNDAY ABOUT THIS, AND IT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, I WASN'T EXACTLY SURE AFTER LEADING, UH, LEAVING THAT MEETING, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
SO NOW THAT I SEE THIS CHANGE, I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH IT.
AND I'M NOT ATTEMPTING TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT OVER COMMISSIONER.
YE THE ONLY THING THAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I WAS ASKED TO GIVE MY OPINION ABOUT DISTRICT NINE AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED TO AFFECT A NEIGHBORING DISTRICT BECAUSE IT IS NEIGHBORED BY EVERY DISTRICT EXCEPT FOR TWO.
UM, SO WHEN WE'RE MOVING FORWARD, I KNOW WE ALREADY APPROVED THE CHANGES, BUT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WITH DISTRICT NINE, IT IS BOUNDARY UPON EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR DISTRICT TWO AND SIX.
UM, SO I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT.
I THINK I HAD SOME OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND, UH, TABLE FOR NEXT TIME YOU SPEAK.
UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP TO COMMISSIONERS THAT I WAS NOT IN ANY WAY, CHINA SEEK PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT OVER COMMISSIONER YE UM, THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION.
AND I THINK THAT EVERYTHING THAT I SAID WAS JUST TO CLARIFY ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD EVER ACCUSE YOU OF TRYING TO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.
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ALWAYS WANT TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS.AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT THAT YOUR DISTRICT REALLY IS BOUND BY A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY DISTRICTS AND W THERE WASN'T A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR POINT.
SO IT WAS REALLY NICE TO GET TO HEAR WHAT YOU THINK.
I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION WITH WHAT THE PROPOSED MAPS ARE ON THE MAPS WE HAVE WITH US.
CAUSE AT THE MOMENT PRECINCT THREE TO FIVE IS REPRESENTED IN THE PAPER MAP I HAVE IN DISTRICT NINE, NOT IN DISTRICT ONE AS MR. KORBEL SUGGESTS, UNLESS I HAVE THE WRONG WORDS OF DEMAND.
THE MAP, THE MAP THAT YOU HAVE WAS THE SPECIMEN IS THE SPECIMEN MAP THAT, THAT I HAD, UM, LAST WEEK AND THE CHANGES, UM, THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING HERE ARE ALL CHANGES ON THAT SPECIMEN NOW.
SO COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL AND THEN COMMISSIONER.
THAT COMMISSIONER KAMBO WAS RECOGNIZED BEFORE ME WAS, DID I JUST MISS HERE? I'M SORRY.
UM, MR. CORBELL MADE THESE MAPS, UM, BASED ON THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, ON THE SCREEN IT'S HAS BEEN CHANGED.
SO IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE PAPERS DIFFERENT THAN THE PAPER.
I'M JUST GOING TO TRY TO PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION.
UM, THE MAPS ARE THE SPECIMEN THAT WE SAW FROM THE SEPTEMBER 8TH MEETING THAT FIRST DRAFT, AND THEN THE MOTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED WERE MADE IN REAL TIME ON THE SCREEN THAT MR. CORBELL WAS SHOWING.
SO SINCE WE ADOPTED THE MOTIONS, ONE THROUGH FOUR THEY'RE PROVIDED WATERLOO PARK APPEARS TO BE INCLUDED.
AND I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL SPEAKING FOR, UM, ASKING FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UM, I GUESS SHE JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF HER MOTION WAS INCLUDED IN ONE THROUGH FOUR.
SO JUST TO CONFIRM WATERLOO PARK IS CURRENTLY IN DISTRICT ONE FOR THIS PRELIMINARY MAP.
UM, I WAS THINKING ABOUT A COMMENT I HEARD EARLIER REGARDING, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST TO GET THE INPUT AND WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THIS AGAIN.
AND I THINK WE DO THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY, A SERVICE, IF WE'RE NOT PRESENTING SOMETHING TO THEM THAT WE'RE REALLY COMMITTED TO IT.
SO IF THEY SENSE THAT WE HAVE AN ATTITUDE OF NONCOMMITTAL, THEN WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A DISSERVICE TO, TO CITIZENS.
SO I WANT IT, I WANT TO GO ON RECORD.
I'M COMMITTED TO WHAT WE'VE SAID HERE.
AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THIS IS THE MAP.
AND THE ONLY WAY IT DOES CHANGE IS THAT SOMEONE BRINGS SOMETHING THAT IS SIGNIFICANT TO THE TABLE THAT REQUIRES US TO GO BACK AND, AND PROBABLY PUT THE BALL BACK IN PLAY.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GO INTO ANY, ANY PUBLIC FORUMS WITHOUT A SENSE OF COMMITMENT.
UH, YOU KNOW, I BASICALLY AGREE WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MOST PART, BUT I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF COMMITMENTS TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE MAP AT THIS POINT.
YEAH, WELL, BUT YOU'RE SAYING AS A COMMISSION THAT WE NEED TO BE COMMITTED.
NOW, SO YOU'RE SAYING FOR YOURSELF, WHAT EXACTLY, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE HERE IS I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FOUR TOOK A LOT OF WORK TO ESTABLISH.
THOSE ARE PROBABLY PRETTY CLOSE TO SETS UNLESS SOMEONE BRINGS FORWARD A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE SPEAKING FOR, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT EIGHT OR MAYBE PARTS OF THE WESTERN HABITS SAY I'M LESS COMMITTED TO THIS.
I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND TELL ME THAT WE ARE WRONG.
THAT WE'VE MADE A MISTAKE THAT WE'VE DIVIDED A COMMUNITY.
ULTIMATELY I'M OKAY HEARING THAT.
AND IF THAT'S HAPPENED, I WANT TO HEAR THAT WE HAVE A DIFFERENT BAR BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BEING BOUND.
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY ON THE WESTERN HALF OF THE CITY, BY THE SAME PROVISIONS OF THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT THAT ARE, THAT ARE AFFECTING OUR WORK ON THE EASTERN HALF OF THE CITY, I THINK THAT'S OKAY.
AND IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S ONE VIEW OF THIS OR ANOTHER.
THIS IS THE BEST ATTEMPT WE'VE MADE SO FAR HAVING A MAP.
I THINK WE'RE COMMITTED TO IT AS A WORK PRODUCT WHERE IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE SHOULDN'T COME AND PROVIDE US WITH FURTHER INPUT.
LIKE THIS MAP IS LOCKED IN PLACE.
ALTHOUGH SOME OF IT IS MORE LOCKED THAN OTHER PARTS OF IT WOULD BE THE WAY THAT I WOULD THINK ABOUT IT AS A DIFFERENCE OF PERSPECTIVE, MR. LANDS, AND
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THEN COMMISSIONER FELKINS.I NEED TO BE CERTAIN THAT MY COMMENTS WERE CLEAR.
UM, AND THE COMMITMENT THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS IT'S AN INTEGRITY ISSUE.
WE'RE GOING TO GO BEFORE PEOPLE AND SAY THAT THIS IS WHAT WE RECOMMENDED.
WE WANT INPUT, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE TO, TO OPERATE AS IF, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST ONE OF MANY.
THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM, AND THIS IS WHAT WE RECOMMENDED.
AND IF THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH IT, AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE, THEN OF COURSE WE WILL CONSIDER THAT.
BUT, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS TOO SERIOUS, AN ISSUE TO OPERATE IN AN IMMATURE IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT APPEAR TO BE JUST A GAME.
AND WHETHER YOU LIVE IN THE NORTH, SOUTH EAST OR THE WEST, IT'S STILL THE CITY AND WE ALL SHOULD BE COMMITTED TO TRY TO PRESENT THE VERY BEST WE CAN TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FALCON.
I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR COMMENTS AND JUST SAY THAT I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS NOT COMMITTED TO THE MAP THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD.
AND I MOVED THAT WE MOVED TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE A BRIEF RECESS.
SO THE MEETING WILL STAND RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES UNLESS MR. CORBELL STATES.
OTHERWISE, IF YOU NEED MORE TIME TO WORK ON THE MAPS BEFORE WE MOVED TO APPROVE, SIR, 10 MINUTES IS FINE.
THE MEETING STANDS RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES.
RECORD MATH TIME OF RECESS HAS EXPIRED.
SO, UM, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO, UM, APPROVING IF, IF THAT IS OKAY WITH EVERYONE, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THAT IS FOR ALL OF THE DISTRICTS.
THE SECOND THOUGH, UM, IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED THAT WE ADOPT ALL 10 CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT MAPS.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE? OKAY.
THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MOTION THAT WE ADOPT THE CITY COUNCIL, DISTRICT BOUNDARIES, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO.
THE AYES HAVE IT IN EMOTION IS ADOPTED.
UM, MR. CORBELL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE ABLE TO JUST QUICKLY TAKE US THROUGH THE POPULATION CHANGES, UM, OR AS THE POPULATION, AS IT STANDS NOW, PER DISTRICT, DO YOU HAVE THAT HANDY, MR. POURABLE REALLY QUICK IS YOUR MICROPHONE ON SORRY, DISTRICT A ONE WOULD BE 94,017.
DISTRICT TWO WOULD BE 98,000 1 65.
UM, DISTRICT THREE WOULD BE 92,900 DISTRICT FOUR WOULD BE 94,900 DISTRICT.
UM, UM, FIVE WOULD BE 97,457 DISTRICT SEX WOULD BE 95,409.
DISTRICT SEVEN WOULD BE 95,070.
AND, UM, DISTRICT EIGHT WOULD BE 101,397.
UH, DISTRICT NINE WOULD BE 94,800, UM, DISTRICT.
AND YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE IT AS LONG AS IT, AS LONG AS THE SMALLEST DISTRICT AND THE LARGEST DISTRICT ARE WITHIN ABOUT 9,500 OF EACH OTHER AND YOU'RE WITHIN 10%.
AND YOU'RE VERY CLOSE TO THAT.
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WANT TO CHECK WITH MR. RICHARDS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE HIS, HIS OPINION.UM, BUT IF, EVEN IF WE, EVEN IF WE WANTED TO THE DISTRICT, ONE-ON-ONE 397, WHICH IS, WHICH IS EIGHT, IS A LITTLE HIGH.
UM, BUT IF, LET ME GET BACK TO THE MAP HERE.
SO THE, IF THEY DECIDED THAT YOU WERE, YOUR DEVIATION WAS TOO HIGH BY MOVING A HUNDRED PEOPLE OR SO PROBABLY FROM DOWN HERE IN EIGHT INTO FIVE, UM, THEN YOU'D BE CLEARLY WITHIN DEVIATION.
UM, BUT, BUT I'M SATISFIED THAT YOU'VE GOT A JUSTIFICATION FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT ALL THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS TOGETHER, AS WELL AS BALANCING THE, THE, UM, UM, UH, ETHNIC GROUPS.
AND, AND I, I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE, BUT I WANT TO TALK TO DAVID RICHARDS, BUT EVEN IF, EVEN IF WE'RE, EVEN IF HE DECIDES THAT WE SHOULD GO BELOW 10%, UM, WE'VE GOT AN EASY WAY TO DO THAT.
SO, UM, AND, AND THIS PROBABLY WAS, WAS LARGELY MY FAULT BECAUSE THERE WAS ONE, THERE WAS ONE, UM, BLOCK THAT WE MISSED COMMISSIONER BLANK.
AND I, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS AND WHEN WE ADDED THAT IN THERE, THAT'S WHAT ADDED THE POPULATION.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THE RIVER RAN ALONG HERE, BUT IT RUNS, RUNS ALONG HERE.
SO THIS ONE BLOCK MADE THE DIFFERENCE.
WELL, IF EVERYONE IS SATISFIED WITH WHERE WE ARE ON THE PRELIMINARY MAPS, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS.
UH, SO THE NEXT ORDER IS THREE.
A, THESE ARE THE UPDATES FROM THE WORKING GROUPS AND SUBCOMMITTEES FIRST UP COMMISSIONER DEMPSEY WITH THE SOCIAL MEDIA AND PRESS RELEASE WORKING GROUP.
UH, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR UPDATES OTHER THAN WE ARE CONSISTENTLY DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
UM, WE ARE, WE DO HAVE A LOT MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, SO WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING IN THE COMMENTS MORE.
UM, AND, UH, I GUESS THAT'S REALLY IT, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE'RE ON TWITTER, WE'RE ON FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM, CONTINUING WITH ALL OF THAT.
AND, UM, WE ARE WITH ADVERTISING TO HELP EACH OTHER PROOF AND SEND OUT BEAUTIFUL DOCUMENTS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER DEMPSEY, NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS, UH, COMMISSIONER YE WITH UPDATES FOR THE ADVERTISING AND WEBSITE WORKING GROUP.
UM, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THAT COMMUNITY COMMUNITY IMPACT STUFF.
UM, SO FOR ADVERTISING, WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT RECENTLY, UM, TRYING TO ADVERTISE FOR THE NEXT FOUR PUBLIC FORUMS. UM, I THINK DUE TO SOME DEADLINES, UH, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE AS MUCH, UH, ADVERTISING BEFORE THIS COMING SATURDAY, BUT WE DEFINITELY WILL BE OUT THERE QUITE A BIT FOR, UH, FOR THE LAST THREE PRECINCT ONES.
NEXT VICE CHAIR, GONZALEZ WITH UPDATES FROM THE PUBLIC FORUM WORKING GROUP.
UM, MY UPDATE AS WE'VE HEARD AND, UM, I WILL FIRST, I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER DEMPSEY, UH, THE ADVERTISING, UH, WORKING GROUP AND THE SOCIAL MEDIA WORKING GROUP, UM, FOR ADVERTISING OUR PUBLIC FORUMS. I THINK YOU ARE DOING A SWELL JOB.
UM, I EVEN JUST SPOKE WITH TICKS AND ABOUT OUR PUBLIC FORUM.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THE WORD IS GETTING OUT.
SO Y'ALL WORK IS, UM, WELL APPRECIATED.
UM, OUR NEXT FORUM IS SCHEDULED FOR THIS SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 18TH, THAT THE GUESTS GOT TO SEE A RECREATION CENTER FROM 11:00 AM TO 1:00 PM.
UM, ALL OF THE FORUMS THROUGH OCTOBER 2ND ARE NOTED, UM, ON SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, AND ON OUR OUTLOOK CALENDAR.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING ALL THE COMMISSIONERS THERE, TO TALK ABOUT AND RECEIVE FEEDBACK ON OUR JUST APPROVED, PRELIMINARY, PRELIMINARY MAP.
UM, WITH THE SUPPORT OF COMMISSIONER SCHNEIDER, WE'VE ALSO BEGUN WORK TO IDENTIFY THE TWO LOCATIONS FOR IN-PERSON FORUMS, UM, FOR THE THIRD ROUND, UH, ONCE WE PRESENT OR APPROVE A DRAFT FINAL MAP, AND THOSE WILL BE DURING THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 18TH, WE WILL ALSO INCLUDE A THIRD VIRTUAL OPTION AT THAT TIME AS WELL.
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I WANTED TO KIND OF RETURN OR MAKE US AWARE OF A DISCUSSION FROM LAST WEEK THAT WE HAD ABOUT POTENTIALLY REVISING THE TIME ALLOTMENT FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY AT OUR PUBLIC FORUMS. UM, WE DISCUSSED POTENTIALLY EXTENDING THAT TO FIVE MINUTES, HOWEVER, SINCE THERE WAS NO CHANGE ADOPTED AND WE NEEDED TO POST AN AGENDA FOR OUR SATURDAY FORUM BY 3:00 PM YESTERDAY, THE TIME ALLOTMENT FOR THE FORUMS WILL REMAIN AS THEY HAD BEEN.UM, BUT OF COURSE THE CHAIR CAN A LOT MORE TIME AS NECESSARY.
SO I JUST WANTED THE COMMISSION TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
AND THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE SEPARATE TESTIMONY FOR FOUR ORGANIZATIONS AND MAYBE A 10 MINUTE ALLOTMENT FOR THAT.
BUT SINCE NO MOTION, WE WERE PERCEIVED WITH THE SATURDAY'S PUBLIC FORUM AS IS, WE WILL HOWEVER, INCORPORATE THE APPROVED CHANGES OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY, SPEAKERS BEING ABLE TO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS DURING THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY, TWO COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR TIME WILL BE STOPPED AS WE ANSWER THEM.
COMMISSIONERS WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT ARE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE TESTIMONY OF A SPECIFIC SPEAKER.
SO THOSE CHANGES WILL BE IN EFFECT FOR OUR NEXT PUBLIC FORUM FINALLY, PER OUR CONVERSATION LAST WEEK AS WELL, COMMISSIONER KANAAN WAS ABLE TO CONNECT WITH OUR IN CONTRACTOR, JONATHAN, ON THIS ON POSSIBLE IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR VIRTUAL FORUMS. WE HAVE TWO VIRTUAL FORUMS MOVING FORWARD.
I'LL PASS IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER KANAAN FOR A BRIEF REPORT OUT.
UM, JOHN AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT OVER EMAIL AND I THINK WE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT, UH, WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR HOW WE COULD DO VIRTUAL BREAKOUT ROOMS. THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TO DO BREAKOUT ROOMS, BUT ZOOM DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO RECORD AUTOMATED RECORDING OF BREAKOUT ROOMS. AND IT HAS TO BE ON BY INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE AND BIGGEST JOHN, BE THE ONLY ONE WE CAN'T MAKE THAT HAPPEN TECHNICALLY.
SO WE DECIDED NOT TO USE THE BREAKOUT ROOMS AND JUST STICK WITH HAVING A GENERAL, UH, ZOOM SESSION.
SO THAT WAS OUR CONCLUSION, BUT JOHN'S WORKING TO, UM, ENABLE CLOSE CAPTIONING AND THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE SHORTLY.
UM, I ALSO HAVE ONE MORE, UM, IS THIS APPROPRIATE TO MAKE A MOTION TO INCREASE THE TIME ALLOTMENT TO FIVE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC SPEAKERS WHEN THEY SIGN UP? I FEEL LIKE SOMEBODY DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION.
IS THAT THE ONLY REASON? CAN WE MAKE ONE NOW AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS? I JUST WONDER YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION, LIKE, YEAH.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO INCREASE THE TIME ALLOTMENT FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY TO BE FIVE MINUTES.
UM, SO THE MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MAN.
IT IS MOVED AND SECONDED THAT PUBLIC TESTIMONY IN PUBLIC FORUMS IS INCREASED FROM THREE MINUTES TO FIVE.
FIVE MINUTES IS A REALLY LONG TIME.
AND GIVEN THAT WE'LL HAVE PROBABLY INCREASED PARTICIPATION IN THE NEXT ROUND, I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT AT THREE MINUTES AS STANCE MINISTRY.
UM, I DUNNO IF THIS IS MORE OF A QUESTION, BUT I SEEM TO RECALL WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT GROUPS, UM, OR ORGANIZATIONS ATTENDING AND POSSIBLY GIVING GROUPS OR ORGANIZATIONS LONGER TIME.
DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER SOMETHING LIKE THIS? YES.
WELL, I GUESS THE CLARIFICATION IS, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, UM, INCREASING THE TIME FOR INDIVIDUALS OR, OR MAKING, UH, THIS FIVE MINUTE EXCEPTION FOR GROUPS? MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS IN GENERAL FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY INCREASE TIME FROM THREE TO FIVE.
WE'VE SEEN THAT CONSISTENTLY PEOPLE NEED A LITTLE MORE BASED ON THE LAST FEW TESTIMONIES THAT WE'VE RECEIVED BETWEEN THREE AND FIVE MINUTES.
AND YOU'VE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS IN ALLOTTING THEM A LITTLE EXTRA TIME TO COMPLETE THEIR TESTIMONY.
AND I THINK PART OF THAT MOTION BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM COMMISSIONER, PARDON WAS ALSO TO SAY THAT, UM, THE CHAIR HAD HEARD THE SWITCHING CAN CHANGE THAT BASED ON HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP AT PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
SO IF WE HAVE MORE THAN FIVE OR 10 PEOPLE, THEN THEY CAN ALWAYS ADJUST THAT TIME AS NEEDED COMMISSIONER BLANC.
NO, I THINK WHERE WE ENDED UP ON THAT WAS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A SITUATION IN WHICH SOME FORUMS, PEOPLE WERE ALLOTTED FIVE MINUTES IN SOME FORUMS, PEOPLE WERE ALLOTTED THREE AND 10.
AND SO WE WANT TO AT LEAST BE CONSISTENT, WHETHER THAT'S FIVE MINUTES OR THREE MINUTES, UM, I'M KIND OF INDIFFERENT.
I MEAN, I, I LIKED THE IDEA OF SETTING THE EXPECTATION FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE A POINT AND TO, AND THE, YOU
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KNOW, AND IF ANYBODY IS, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY CLEAR THAT THE CHAIR CAN GIVE THAT PERSON MORE TIME.I THINK ANYONE ON THIS COMMISSION, IF SOMEONE IS MAKING A GOOD POINT, IT GETS TO THREE MINUTES CAN SAY, CAN WE EXTEND THE PERSON'S TIME? I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE IS GOING TO DENY THAT PERSON, THE ABILITY TO EXTEND TIME.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE RELUCTANT TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM.
I THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY ONLY BEEN TWO TIMES WHERE SOMEBODY HAS GONE OVER.
SO I WOULD DEFINITELY CHALLENGE THAT AS A TREND THAT WE'VE SEEN.
UM, AND ALSO WE DID NOT APPROVE THAT MOTION REFERENCED AT LAST WEEKS.
WE ONLY APPROVED, UM, TWO OF THEM, WHICH I CAN LOOK AT THE NOTES IF WE NEED TO PULL UP, I SHARE A CONSOLE IS JUST TO, LIKE, I ALWAYS HAVE TO CLARIFY MY EMOTION OR MY OWN, UH, FOR UPDATES.
UM, SO YES, AND AGAIN, BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO POST AN AGENDA FOR THE 72 HOUR WINDOW BEFORE OUR SATURDAY PUBLIC FORUM AND NO MOTION WAS ADOPTED THE LAST TIME, OUR AGENDA DOES STATE THAT THERE IS A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
SO THE EXPO, THE, THE UNDERSTANDING OR THE, UH, THE VERBIAGE IS ALREADY OUT THERE.
SO I WOULD KIND OF AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER FOLK ON, IN THE SENSE I WOULD LEAVE IT AT THREE MINUTES WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CHAIR CAN A LOT MORE TIME TO AN INDIVIDUAL AND THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN, UM, MANY FOLKS GO OVER THAT TIME LIMIT.
UM, AND THEN WITH THAT SINCE MAYBE THE SATURDAY IS THAT THREE MINUTES, THAT STARTS THAT THAT'S OUR CONSISTENT, UM, TIME ALLOTMENT SINCE THE FOLKS AT THE SATURDAY FORUM WILL BE TOLD THREE MINUTES.
UM, SO I GUESS IF I CAN MAKE A MOTION CHAIR, ACTUALLY, SORRY.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DEBATE? OKAY.
THE QUESTION IS ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MOTION THAT WE EXTEND PUBLIC TESTIMONY AT PUBLIC FORUMS FROM THREE TO FIVE MINUTES, THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO, NO.
UM, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED COMMISSIONER CONSOLE IS IT WAS, OH, I'M SORRY.
IT WAS ABOUT THE, UM, BRINGING IN ORGANIZATIONS.
THAT WAS ANOTHER, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MY CLARIFYING QUESTION TO COMMISSIONER E.
UM, I DID NOTE THAT THERE WAS LAST MEETING.
THERE WAS ALSO THE OP THERE'S ALSO DISCUSSION ABOUT MAYBE A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION, UM, PUBLIC TESTIMONY PORTION.
UM, BUT SIMILAR TO THIS THREE MINUTE ALLOTMENT, SINCE IT WASN'T VOTED ON, IT, WON'T BE AT THE SATURDAY FORUM.
MAYBE THERE'S OPEN DISCUSSION, WHETHER WE STILL WANT TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE FUTURE FORUM.
SO JUST FOR CONSISTENCY AND SINCE WE NEEDED TO POST THE AGENDA, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST THAT AT THIS POINT.
AND SORRY, I THINK, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT MIGHT UPDATE, BUT MAYBE IT WASN'T SPEAKING CLEAR.
SO TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU DO NOT ADVISE HAVING A PORTION OF THE PUBLIC, UM, PUBLIC FORUM FOR ORGANIZATIONS, ALL TESTIMONY FOR CONSISTENCY.
UM, AND SO EVERYONE HAS THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND FUTURE FORUMS, SINCE WE'RE NOT DOING IT AT THE SATURDAY FORUM, I WOULD ADVISE THAT WE DO NOT DO THAT FOR THE, LET'S SAY THE 21ST FORM, THE 25TH FORM.
UM, JUST A QUICK THOUGHT ON THAT.
UM, IN MY MIND, MOST ORGANIZATIONS HAVE A SPOKESPERSON.
SO TO ME, IT, IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO KEEP IT WITH THE PERSON.
AND IF A GROUP WANTS TO SPEAK, I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD TALK BEFOREHAND WITH THEIR SPOKESPERSON AND THEN THERE'LL BE A LOT OF THREE MINUTE TIME AND IT KEEPS IT FAIR.
AND IT JUST KIND OF GOES WITH THE VEIN OF, I'M NOT GIVING ANYBODY UP MORE TIME ON, AND THEN COMMISSIONER BLANK.
I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE PUBLIC, A FORUM GROUP, IF IT'S OKAY.
UM, JUST, I KNOW THAT WE HAD ALSO TALKED ABOUT FINDING A WAY TO LIVE STREAM THESE SO THAT, UM, THEY COULD BE MORE ACCESSIBLE.
UM, SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER KANAAN, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF YOUR DISCUSSION WITH OUR CONSULTANT.
DO YOU HAVE A REPORT OUT FOR THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO STREAMING, UM, OUR MEETINGS OR PUBLIC FORUMS? I'M SORRY, THE PUBLIC FORUMS. YES.
AND SCREAMING THEM TO FACEBOOK, FACEBOOK, OR ANOTHER PUBLICLY ASSESSABLE PLACE.
CAN I CHIME IN, UM, BUT THAT WAS NOT PART OF, UM, I BELIEVE WE ASKED FOR COMMISSIONER KANAAN AND JOHN AT THE MOMENT.
UM, ATX AND WE'LL BE AROUND FOR OUR PUBLIC FORUMS TO RECORD, AND THEY WILL BE AVAILABLE AT A LATER DATE ON ATX N UM, AND THERE IS A VIRTUAL OPPORTUNITY IN ADDITION TO OUR IN-PERSON OPPORTUNITIES.
SO THOSE WHO MAY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN A VIRTUAL WAY, UM, HAVE THAT COMPLETE OPPORTUNITY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.
UM, BUT IT JUST HASN'T BEEN LOOKED AT RIGHT NOW.
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CALLED ON COMMISSIONER BLANK FOLLOWING MR. FALCON.SO I JUST WANT TO COME BACK ON THE QUESTION ABOUT GROUP, UH, TESTIMONY, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'VE ALWAYS ALLOWED GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND GIVE US PRESENTATIONS GENERALLY.
I ASSUME WE'RE STILL GONNA ALLOW THAT GOING FORWARD.
IS THAT CORRECT? DOES THEIR INVITED GUESTS, OH, HEY, THOSE ARE INVITED.
SO I THINK THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND HAVING ORGANIZATIONAL TESTIMONY AND PUBLIC FORUMS WAS TO OPEN THAT, UM, SO THAT ANYONE WHO WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK TO US AND PRESENT, UM, WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, IN AN AS UNBIASED WAY AS POSSIBLE.
THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENT BEHIND THE, THE CONCEPT OF ORGANIZATIONAL TESTIMONY.
SO LIKE AT THE RISK OF LETTING A VERY FEW SPEAK FOR MANY, UM, WE GET THAT FEEDBACK A LOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, JUST ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF WATCHING MEETINGS.
SO I, I HAVE NOT COMPLETELY WORKED OUT IF IT'S THIS MEETING THAT PEOPLE ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT OR THE PUBLIC FORUMS, BUT IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING EXTRA BUDGET, I FEEL THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY, A GOOD USE OF OUR MONEY.
SO
UM, TAKES A COUPLE DAYS USUALLY INTO THE NEXT WEEK TO POST, AND THEN WE ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR ALL WEEK ABOUT WHEN IT WILL BE POSTED.
SO, UM, IF IT COULD BE AN OPTION THAT WE EXPLORE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THESE, I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT BOTH ARE COVERED BY X XD AND I DON'T SEE X AND T IN HERE TODAY, BUT ANYWAY, UM, YEAH, JUST SO IT'S JUST REALLY SELFISH TO STOP ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.
I WOULD SAY WE COULD DEFINITELY EXPLORE, ESPECIALLY FOR THESE WEDNESDAY MEETINGS.
I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY THE MORE IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO BE A LIVESTREAM, YOU KNOW, AND FOR THE FORUMS, I THINK SINCE WE HAVE THE VIRTUAL OPTION AND SINCE OUR FORUMS, JUST TO GATHER PUBLIC INPUT, I THINK WE ARE COVERED, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WE'RE COVERED THERE, BUT DEFINITELY WE COULD, I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE LOOK INTO A WAY TO MAYBE LIVESTREAM, UM, OUR WEDNESDAY MEETINGS AND WE CAN FURTHER DISCUSS IT.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE NO UPDATES FROM THE FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, AND THERE ARE NO UPDATES FROM THE FINAL REPORT SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO SEE HOUSEKEEPING.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS? I DO NOT.
CAN I PLEASE SAY SOMETHING PRESSURING CAMPO? GO AHEAD.
UM, SO THIS IS RELATED TO HOUSEKEEPING IN TERMS OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
UM, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS PERHAPS IN ANOTHER TIME WE CAN ALL RECEIVE ONE.
UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP TO THE COMMISSION THAT TECHNICALLY WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE DEBATE BEFORE A MOTION IS MADE.
SO IF SOMEBODY BRINGS UP, IF THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES SOMEBODY ELSE THEY'RE SPEAKING, UM, IT IS NOT TECHNICALLY ALLOWED UNDER ROBERT'S RULES TO START A DEBATE.
YOU CAN ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION TO THE CHAIR, UM, BUT PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DOING THAT DEBATE ACCORDING TO THE RULES.
UM, AND TO ALSO JUST CLARIFY ANOTHER THING TOO, IT IS POSSIBLE FOR US TO CHANGE EMOTION.
UM, THERE'S A PROCEDURE BEHIND IT, BUT JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, WE DO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO AHEAD WITH EVERY SINGLE MOTION JUST BECAUSE WE BELIEVE WE BELIEVED AT ONE POINT.
AND FINALLY, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY, UM, EVEN IF WE'RE NOT RECORDING TO TURN OFF YOUR MICS BEFORE YOU HAVE PRIVATE DISCUSSIONS, BECAUSE FOR THOSE OF US OVER HERE, WE CAN HEAR YOU DISCUSSION.
SO PLEASE DO NOT STATE ANY PERSONAL OPINIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE WHILE YOU'RE, UM, MIKE'S IS STILL ON, REGARDLESS OF RECORDING.
THANK YOU FOR THOSE REMINDERS, COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL, WE HAVE ANY OTHER HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS.
THE FINAL ORDER OF BUSINESS IS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. THE FLOOR IS OPEN TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, MISSIONARY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A HOUSEKEEPING OR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT, UH, IN THE LAST WEDNESDAY MEETING, I BELIEVE WE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, WE ALL AGREED ON NEEDING TO VOTE, TO APPROVE INVOICES THAT ARE OVER $3,000.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO A HIGHER NUMBER, BECAUSE
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RIGHT NOW IT'S CAUSING A LITTLE BIT OF A, A JAM WITH OUR ADVERTISING SITUATION, WITH VENDORS BEING A BREAKOUT, ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL INVOICES, UM, FOR, FOR MATT AND LISA TO HAVE TO APPROVE.SO I, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE BUDGET THAT WE DO HAVE, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST LIKE INCREASING IT TO, I DON'T KNOW, SEVEN OR 10 WITHOUT NEEDING A VOTE.
I THINK THAT'S FAIR, BUT OPEN TO OTHER IDEAS, WE CAN REVISIT THAT DISCUSSION WITH A, UM, FINANCE SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATE.
AGAIN, I BELIEVE THE RATIONALE BEHIND THE $3,000 CAP WAS THAT, UM, AND MATT, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK THE 3000 IS WHAT WE CAN PUT ON A CARD.
ANYTHING ABOVE THAT GOES THROUGH A DIFFERENT CHANNEL, RIGHT? UM, $3,000 CAN BE PAID FOR, WITH THE PRO CARD, THE CREDIT CARD, BUT THEN ANYTHING OVER $3,000.
WE NEED TO GET THREE BIDS OR, UM, JUSTIFY THIS A SOLE SOURCE, MEANING ONLY ONE VENDOR CAN PROVIDE THE SERVE THE SPECIFIC SERVICES NEEDED.
UM, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND LIKE HOW IT WORKS.
LIKE IF THERE WAS, UH, AN INVOICE FOR, LET'S SAY $5,000, COULD IT BE PAID OVER TWO CREDIT CARD CHARGES? OH, SO THEN EACH INVOICE SHOULD BE, UM, UNDER $3,000.
I, I WAS JUST GOING TO OFFER AGAIN THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH PROCUREMENT PRACTICES AND IF YOU NEED HELP FIGURING THAT OUT, BUT YEAH, IF IT'S, IF IT'S OVER 3000, TECHNICALLY YOU HAVE TO GET COMPETITIVE BIDS, BUT IF IT'S SOLE SOURCE, MEANING THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON WHO CAN PROVIDE THAT, WHICH I WOULD IMAGINE MOST OF YOU ARE CHARGES ARE BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MANY NEWS OUTLETS, THEN IT SHOULD BE OKAY.
SO IF YOU NEED HELP FIGURING THAT OUT, JUST LET ME KNOW.
NO, IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S FINE.
UM, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FROM ME, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO, UH, VISIT HAVING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH OUR ATTORNEY, MR. RICHARDS, UM, AND ALSO, UH, SEPARATELY.
ANOTHER ITEM IS TO DISCUSS AND SYNTHESIZE THE INPUT THAT WE'RE RECEIVING FROM PUBLIC FORUMS AND OF COURSE, UPDATES FROM COMMITTEES AS ALWAYS AND WORKING GROUPS.
HONESTLY, I THINK THAT WE MAY NOT NEED THIS COMING WEDNESDAY, BUT I'M, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THAT.
AND WITH THE POSSIBILITY THAT THERE MIGHT BE A CANCELLATION, UM, I'M ALSO JUST CONSIDERING THE TIME COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS COMMISSION.
WE'RE MEETING ON SATURDAY FOR A FORUM ON TUESDAY FOR A FORUM, AND WE CAN'T MAKE ANY MAP CHANGES NEXT WEEK.
SO, UM, IF WE WAITED UNTIL THE FOLLOWING WEDNESDAY TO MEET, WE WOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE PUBLIC FORUMS AT THAT POINT OR ALMOST ALL OF THEM.
AND SO WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF FEEDBACK TO REVIEW AT THAT POINT AND, UM, AND CONSOLIDATE, UH, BUT I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
I WILL EMAIL EVERYONE IF I CHOOSE TO CANCEL NEXT.
MR. BLANK, ARE YOU SURE? YOU'LL BE OKAY.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS, MATT, JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT Y'ALL'S ACTION TODAY, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR TOMORROW'S SCHEDULED MEETING.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS? OKAY.
SINCE THERE IS NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.