* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. UH, [00:00:01] HELLO. [Call to Order] UM, I'M CALLING THE MEETING OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, TO ORDER, UH, SINCE WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, UH, THE MEETING IS FOR SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2021. AND THE TIME IS 6 0 3. WE'RE ON A ROLL. UM, I'M GOING TO START BY CALLING THE ROLE, UM, COMMISSIONER OR KOSTA PRESENTING COMMISSIONER. BERRERA RAMIREZ EAR COMMISSIONER BRAY PRESENT. I'M HERE. OF COURSE. UH, THIS IS ANDY INKLER, UH, COMMISSIONER GREENBERG HERE. COMMISSIONER KING HERE. COMMISSIONER CABASA AIR COMMISSIONER RAY HERE. COMMISSIONER SMITH HERE. COMMISSIONER THOMPSON HERE, COMMISSIONER WOODY. OKAY. UM, AND LET'S HOPE HE CAN JOIN US LATER IF YOU HEAR FROM HIM. I KNOW YOU'LL LET US KNOW. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION BEFORE I START READING THE CONSENT AGENDA, OUR FACILITATOR, UH, OR STOP LIAISON IS NODDING. NO. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ [Consent Agenda] THE AGENDA, UH, INTO THE, UH, RECORD, UH, A IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES [A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] FOR SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2021. AND, UM, I HAD A CORRECTION ALL, BUT I CAN WAIT FOR THAT LATER IF ANYONE ELSE HAD ANY, UH, WE NEEDED TO ADD DAVID I'M SO SORRY, GO AHEAD. YES, HERE. I'M SORRY. UM, THIS IS DAVID KING, UH, MR. KING AND, UH, YES, UH, ON, UH, THE, UH, YOU MAY BE REFERRING TO, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE YOU ARE, THE CORRECTING YOU REFERRING TO, BUT I WAS WONDERING ABOUT ITEM B3 ON THE, UH, MINUTES THAT THOSE, UH, RESTRICTIONS APPLIED TO LOT 11 AND I DON'T SEE LOT 11 SPECIFIED IN THE NOTE IN THE MINUTES THERE. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS NECESSARY OR NOT NECESSARY TO INCLUDE THE 11 LOT 11 IN THERE, ALTHOUGH THAT WAS PART OF THE MOTION AS I RECALL. YES. UH, IT WAS SO ARE YOU ADDING THAT TO THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THAT CORRECTION TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES. OKAY. AND THEN I WANTED TO ADD IT AS A CORRECTION THAT WE, UH, HAD, UH, A PROHIBITION ON ADULT ORIENTED BUSINESSES ON B2, UM, OR ANY, THERE ARE ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES BEFORE I CONTINUE WITH THE, UH, READING OF THE AGENDA. UM, CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LIES ON ANDREW RIVERA. SO AOB SHOULD BE NOTED ON ITEM B OH TWO ALREADY, UH, IN THE, UM, CAPTION AND THEN, UH, THE RESTRICTIONS OR THE PROHIBITIONS APPLY TO THE PDA. OKAY. OKAY. GOTCHA. I'M SORRY. OKAY. AND I'M SORRY. UH, UH, ANDREW, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, CLARIFY WHETHER THE ONE-TO-ONE, UH, FAR ALSO APPLIES TO THE PDA OR JUST TO LOT 11? SURE. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT APPLIES TO THE PDF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THANK YOU FOR THE OTHER CORRECTION. THAT'S ALREADY NOTED IN THE MINUTES. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, MOVING TO PUBLIC HEARINGS, B ONE IS A REZONING ITEM, C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 0 0 3. UH, A REZONING. THIS IS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TILL OCTOBER 5TH. ITEM B TWO. UH, I HAD FIFTH. OKAY. CHAIR COMMISSION, LIAISON, ANDREW VERA. THAT WOULD BE OCTOBER 19TH. THE STAFF HAS MOMENT. MY APOLOGIES. OKAY. ON ITEM A B TWO REZONING CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 2 6 IS A, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION LISTED FOR CONSENT APPROVAL. UH, PLEASE SHOW ME ABSTAINING ON THAT ITEM ON ITEM B THREE REZONING ITEM C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 0 9 1. [00:05:01] UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS REQUESTED A POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 19TH. THE APPLICANT IS IN AGREEMENT ON ITEM B FOR ZONING CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 2 2. THIS IS A, UH, POSTPONEMENT REQUEST BY THE STAFF TILL OCTOBER 5TH. ITEM B FIVE IS A REZONING CASE CASE NUMBER C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 2 9. IT'S LISTED FOR CONSENT APPROVAL. ITEM B SIX IS A REZONING CASE ITEM C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 1 9. UH, THIS IS A FOR A POSTPONEMENT BY THE APPLICANT UNTIL OCTOBER 5TH. I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN AGREEMENT ON ITEM B SEVEN. THIS IS A FINAL PLAT, UH, OUT OF APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN. IT'S LISTED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE, ARE LISTED FOR CONSENT IS DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS PER, UH, EXHIBIT C BEFORE WE HAVE ANY VOTES ON THE ITEMS. UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT HAS NOT SIGNED UP BEFORE WE VOTE? IS THERE ANY ONE WISHING TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THESE AGENDA ITEMS? ALL RIGHT, THEN I'LL TAKE A, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS READ, WHICH INCLUDES THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. A ONE POSTPONEMENT OF B ONE TO OCTOBER 19TH, POSTPONEMENT FOR B3 TO OCTOBER 19TH, HOW'S PALMA TO BEFORE TO OCTOBER 5TH, POSTPONEMENT OF B6 TO OCTOBER 5TH POST AND THE CONSENT DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS FOR EXHIBIT C FOR ITEM SEVEN AND THEN CONSENT APPROVAL FOR ITEMS TWO AND ITEMS FIVE. IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? I DO HAVE, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION OF STAFF ON AS, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER DINKLER IS GOING TO ABSTAIN ON ITEM B TO, CAN SHE STILL ABSTAIN? IF WE HAVE SIX MEMBERS HERE WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT. THAT IS A FINE, THANK YOU. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO SHOW COMMISSIONER DINKLER AS ABSTAINING ON ITEM CONSENT. ITEM B TWO. OKAY. UH, ALL, UH, I'M GOING TO RESTATE THE MOTION. THIS IS MOVE APPROVAL OF A ONE A THROUGH B SEVEN. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, SHOWING AN ABSTENTION CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES AND, UM, UM, THE ABSTENTION ON, UM, ITEM B TWO, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH COMMISSIONER, UH, WOODY JOINING US. UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM AND THAT IS ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION CHAIR, UH, CHAIR. THIS IS COMMISSIONER KING. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. SO I DID NOT SEE COMMISSIONER WOODY. DID YOU VOTE ON THAT LAST ITEM? THE CONSENT. OKAY. AND THE CONSENT, THERE WERE ACTUALLY NO CORRECTIONS. THE MINUTES AS POSTED ARE ALREADY CORRECTED, CORRECT. SORRY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT WE DID NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS THEN, THEN THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN REFLECTED IN THE MINUTES THAT ARE POSTED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. MOVING TOWARDS ITEM, ITEM C ITEMS FROM [C.1.Discussion and possible action regarding matters related to any proposed revisions to the LandDevelopment Code including but not limited to staff updates, presentations and scheduling.(Sponsors: Chair Barrera-Ramirez and Vice-Chair Kiolbassa)] COMMISSION. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATING TO MATTERS PROPOSED TO, UH, REVISIONS OF THE LAND RELEVANT CLUED CODE, UH, INCLUDING ARE NOT LIMITED TO STAFF UPDATES, PRESENTATIONS SCHEDULING, AND THAT COMMISSIONER GREENBERG. I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE DO GET A STAFF UPDATE OR BRIEFING, UM, CAUSE WE HEAR THINGS ARE BEING PLANNED AND IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT. OKAY. IS THERE ANY, UH, SEC I SECOND THAT MOTION OR WILL, UH, JOIN COMMISSIONER GREENBERG IN THAT, IN THAT RECOMMENDATION. SO I STAFF BRIEFING ON, UM, PROPOSED [00:10:02] REVISIONS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. MR. COMMISSIONER TEAM HAS SECONDED THAT ITEM. OH, CAN I INTERJECT HERE? YOU JUST NEED TWO CO-SPONSORS RIGHT. OKAY. IT'S MISSIONARY KOBASA HERE. OH AND NO, NO NEED TO VOTE THEN. OKAY. YOU JUST NEED TWO CO-SPONSORS AND THE ITEMS FROM THE COMMISSION, THEN MOVING FORWARD, SINCE THIS WILL BE ADDED TO THE, UH, I STOPPED PRESENTATION ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WILL BE ADDED TO NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA OR NEXT AGENDA. AND I HEARD JUST REMEMBER REMIND HER THAT, UH, IT'S, UH, DEPENDENT UPON THE STAFF'S AVAILABILITY AND, UM, PRESENTATION. AND I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL ON, UH, FROM THE DEMOGRAPHER ON THAT SAME AGENDA. CORRECT. OKAY. UM, LET'S UM, MAKE THAT, UH, TIME AVAILABLE FOR STAFF AND THEN MOVING TO ITEM [C.2.Discussion and possible action regarding debate rules and procedures. (Co-Sponsors ChairBarrera-Ramirez and Commissioner Denkler)] TWO. IS THERE THE ITEM WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING DEBATE RULES AND PROCEDURES AND THAT ITEM I THINK I CAN SAY HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM BOTH COMMISSIONER, UM, EXCUSE ME, CHAIR BERERRA RAMIREZ AND MYSELF. WE THINK THE ITEM WAS DISCUSSED ALREADY HAS BEEN DEALT WITH ALREADY. SO DO WE HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA? I'M SORRY. YOU CAN'T SEE ME NOT, I MEAN, MAYBE IT'S HARD FOR YOU TO SEE ME AND I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT, BUT THIS IS COMMISSIONER KING AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO, UH, OUR CHAIR, BARRERA RAMIREZ FOR, YOU KNOW, HER, HER PROCESS AND KIND OF A ROUND ROBIN PROCESS TO ALLOW EVERYBODY, UH, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO COMMENT ON THESE CASES. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PROCESS HERE. AND ALSO OUR VICE IS WELL FALLING FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THOSE SAME KIND OF PROCESSES FOR THE, FOR OUR COMMISSIONER. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK Y'ALL ARE DOING FOR US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, DEFINITELY A WORK IN PROGRESS AND I WILL MAKE SURE I CHECKED THE SCREEN AND THE VOICE OF GOD THERE. I'M SPEAKING NEXT. DO WE HAVE ANY FUTURE [D.FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] AGENDA ITEMS? ANYBODY I'M LOOKING AT THE SCREEN FIRST, I'M GOING TO TURN MY HEAD, RIGHT? I'M GOING TO TURN MY HEAD LOSS. NOBODY HERE WITH A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. I'M BEING TRAINED. Y'ALL OH, I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK WE ALREADY BROUGHT THIS UP, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS, UH, THE, UH, UH, RULES ON, UH, SORRY. DON'T LIKE THE WE'RE WHEN WE'RE ALLOWED TO MEET AND THOSE RULES AROUND MEETING AND, UH, THAT, UH, LIAISON HAS SAID THAT WE WILL, HE'S GOING TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA POSTED AGENDA, BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING WE ALREADY LIKE HAD SPONSORED AND EVERYTHING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SIMILARLY CHAIR, UH, JUST REPEATING THE, WHAT THE CALL FOR THE WATERSHED BRIEFINGS. AND I THOUGHT WE HAD A LISTING ON THAT IN YOUR, UH, STAFF, UH, INFORMATION, UH, BUT THE FINAL AGENDA SENT OUT. IT HAD THAT DATE ON IT AS WELL. THAT WAS THE SECOND MEETING IN OCTOBER, ANDREW. OKAY. UH, ALL RIGHT. COMMITTEE REPORTS AND WORKING GROUPS. AND I'M GOING TO LOVE ONE MORE. I'M SORRY. WHAT ABOUT, UM, ALLOWING OUR PEOPLE TO GIVE TESTIMONY REMOTELY, UM, GIVEN THAT CITY COUNCIL IS NOW GOING TO BE DOING THAT? SURE. COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ANDROID. THAT IS A MATTER THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING EXPLORED. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN, UM, IN SORRY, SWIVEL, I'M GOING TO BECOME LEARNED TO SWIVEL MY HEAD COMMISSIONER KIK. YOU'RE MUTED. YOU'RE MUTED. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. UH, YES. UH, I'M SORRY, A CHAIR. I, I, UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY I DO, UH, I, I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, UH, UH, DOWN THE DOWN THE ROAD HERE MAYBE IN A FEW WEEKS OR SO MAYBE NEXT MONTH, WE'VE JUST GOT TO GET US AT OUR NEXT MEETING AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO BRING US BACK UP FOR, UH, FOR, TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC, TO PARTICIPATE, UH, BY PHONE, UH, JUST, JUST AS WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN TRAVIS COUNTY COMMISSIONER'S COURT MEETING. AND, AND, UH, I THINK THAT'S REAL IMPORTANT TO GIVE THE PUBLIC THE OPTIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE MIDST OF THIS PANDEMIC. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT WE BRING THAT TOPIC BACK UP ON. THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY RIGHT NOW. UH, AND SO JUST MAYBE ANTICIPATE AT OUR NEXT MEETING, I MIGHT REQUEST OR MIGHT ASK IF WE COULD BRING IT BACK UP AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. THANK YOU. OKAY. [00:15:02] AND HEARING NO FURTHER, UM, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I SWIVELED MY HEAD. I HAVE LOOKED AT THE SCREEN, I'M GOING TO MOVE [E.COMMITTEE REPORTS & WORKING GROUPS] TO COMMITTEE REPORTS AND WORKING GROUPS, UM, CODES AND ORDINANCES, UH, JOINT COMMITTEE. I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE A CHAIR, BUT I HAD A RAMIREZ FOR REPORT. SURE. SO WE, UM, SPOKE ABOUT A REVISION TO THE CODE THAT PERTAINS TO THE URBAN TRAIL OR A CONSTRUCTION OF URBAN TRAILS. AND CURRENTLY THE CODE STATES THAT YOU'RE ONLY PERMITTED FOUR FEET OF CUTTER FILL. AND IT ALLOWS FOR THE PURPOSES OF URBAN TRAILS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A, UM, A TRANSPORTATION GOOD, OR A SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. UM, THEY'RE ABLE TO GO UP TO EIGHT FEET OR CUT OF CUT OR FILL IF THEY MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA. SO, UM, WITH ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, STAFF THERE, THE MEETING, AND WE DISCUSSED SOME OF OUR CONCERNS AND, UM, WE DID APPROVE, UM, THOSE CHANGES TO THE, TO THE CODE. THE NEXT STEP IS FOR IT TO GO BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY APPROVE THE CHANGES. UM, AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL OTHER CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST AND THIS AND THEIR, UM, WHERE THEY ARE IN THEIR TIMELINE OF APPROVAL. IT'S QUITE A LENGTHY PROCESS. UH, SO WE ARE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE ON THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING ON THE, ON THE ORDINANCES THAT ARE, UM, THE REVISIONS TO THE CODE THAT ARE, THAT ARE UNDER AND THE APPROVAL PROCESS. AND I THINK I CAN INTERJECT, WE ELECTED A CHAIR OF THE CODES AND ORDINANCES SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, COMMISSIONER BERRERA RAMIREZ IS NOW ALSO THE CHAIR OF CODES AND ORDINANCES. UH, SHE IS, UH, STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE. UH, IS THERE ANY, UM, REPORT FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE? ALL RIGHT. ANY REPORT FROM THE SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE? UH, THERE THERE'S NO REPORT, BUT I HAVE ASKED, UH, TO SEE IF THE STATESMAN PLAN, UH, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WILL COME TO THE SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE THROUGH, UH, VIA THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY BECAUSE IT IS IN THE WATERFRONT OVERLAY. AND, AND SO I'M STILL WAITING FOR STAFF TO GET BACK TO NOT JUST ASK THEM THIS AFTERNOON, SO THEY HAVEN'T HAD TIME. UH, BUT I, I WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO IS, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THESE JOINT COMMITTEES THAT WE WORK ON WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE, AND, UH, AND, UH, THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY GET BOTH LAND USE COMMISSIONS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, SMALLER AREA PLANS AND ALSO WITH OUR CODES TO OUR, UH, LAND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SO THAT'S REALLY VERY IMPORTANT. SO I APPRECIATE THE UPDATES AND, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER UPDATES, UH, COMING THROUGH MAYBE FOR VMU OR SOMEONE THAT I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF TOPIC HERE, BUT WHILE WE'RE ON THE CODES AND ORDINANCE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE UPDATES. AND MAYBE SOMETIMES ZONING AND PLANNING MIGHT WANT TO ALSO CHIME IN BASED ON INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM CO-TENANCY CODES AND ORDINANCES ARE OUR MEMBERS OWN CODES AND ORDINANCES, AND CONGRATULATIONS CHAIR, BARRERA RAMIREZ ON YOUR, ON YOUR NEW CHAIR. CHAIRPERSONSHIP AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. RIGHT. MOVING ON. IS THERE ANY REPORT FROM THE ONION CREEK AND LOCALIZED FLOODING WORKING FOR IT? NO. BRIGHT. IT'S A CHAIR. THIS IS A COMMISSIONER KING AGAIN, AND, UH, THE, UH, I DO PLAN TO SEND SOME INFORMATION TO OUR WORKING GROUP I'M ON THAT WORK GROUP. SO I WILL BE SENDING SOME INFORMATION, UH, JUST BACKGROUND INFORMATION. SO I ANTICIPATE THAT MAYBE WE MIGHT GET A WORKING GROUP MEETING SET UP HERE OVER THE NEXT MAYBE MONTH OR SO. HOPEFULLY WE CAN, BECAUSE WE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TOUCHED BASE ON THAT IN A WHILE. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET BACK ON THAT, UH, AND, UM, AND THEN MAY BRING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO THE FULL COMMISSION POTENTIALLY. THANK YOU. NO, RIGHT. WELL, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I THINK WE CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 6 0 6 22, UH, NEW WORLD'S RECORD. UM, AND THANK YOU FOR MATE TO ME FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN. THAT'S A JOKE. Y'ALL ALL RIGHT. THE CON, UH, MEETING OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 21ST IS ADJOURNED AT 6 23 21. THANK YOU, CHAIR GLARE. THANKS ALL [00:20:04] . I NEVER TRIED, AND I DON'T WANT TO SOMEDAY WHEN I AM WISE, MY MIND . * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.