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[00:00:03]

UH, OKAY.

UM, TECHNICAL, CAN WE SEE THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE SCREEN? THE COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE, UM, VIRTUAL ON THE SCREEN DOWN HERE IN FRONT.

YEAH.

SO IF YOU HIT THE ROOM, A BUTTON THERE ON YOUR CRUSH DRAWN PANEL, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY.

ARE WE READY TO START? OKAY.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

[CALL TO ORDER]

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE MEETING OF THE AUSTIN HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION.

I'M CHAIRMAN JERRY MYERS, AND I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

I'LL CALL THE ROLL.

I'M HERE.

COMMISSIONER HAIM, SETH, PLEASE INDICATE BY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

CASTEEL IS HERE.

HI COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON, VIRTUALLY.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER COOK HERE.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, PRESENT COMMISSIONER LITTLE HERE.

COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER HERE.

COMMISSIONER, TILL THAT HERE.

COMMISSIONER VELON SUELA IS NOT HERE YET.

PLEASE NOTE, WHEN SHE COMES IN TO THE MEETING AND ADDER, IF, UH, IF SHE DOES JOIN US AND COMMISSIONER RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THIS IS OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS.

AS WE WILL READ THROUGH THE AGENDA AND IDENTIFY CASES THAT WILL BE POSTPONED, THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, OR THAT WILL GO ON THE CONSENT.

IF YOUR ITEM IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND IT'S A PR THE CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.

YOUR PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED WITH THE STAFF REQUIREMENTS, UM, WHICH ARE OFTEN A DOCUMENT, UH, CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE WITH EIGHT BY 10 OF PHOTOGRAPHS AND PHOTOGRAPHIC PAPER AND A HISTORIC NARRATIVE FOR ARCHIVING AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER.

IF A COMMISSIONER PULLS AN ITEM, IT WILL NOT BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

WE WILL DISCUSS IT IN THE ORDER THAT IT APPEARS ON THE AGENDA.

IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE, ONCE TO PULL AN ITEM THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY MADAM CHAIR, AND I'LL PULL IT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA RIGHT NOW.

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

THIS IS SOMEONE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.

WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER WHO REGISTERED PRIOR TO THE MEETING, UH, MR. DON WATERS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP MR. WATERS, YOU'RE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

ACTUALLY, I, I MISSPOKE ON THE PIECE OF PAPER BECAUSE IT IS ON YOUR AGENDA.

OKAY? THEN THAT IS NOT CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

YOU YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO COMMUNICATE WHEN IT COMES UP ON THE AGENDA.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP OTHER THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE, UM, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA YOU MAY DO SO NOW, OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.

FIRST.

WE HAVE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

THAT WILL BE A CONSENT ITEM.

WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

NUMBER THREE, A IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR HISTORIC ZONING DISCUSSION AND ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR HISTORIC DISTRICT ZONING AND REQUEST TO CONSIDER INITIATION OF HISTORIC ZONING.

THE FIRST ITEM WE HAVE IS A ONE 3004 BELMONT CIRCLE.

THAT WILL BE DISCUSSION ITEM 8, 2 37 0 3 MEADOWBANK DRIVE.

THAT WILL BE DISCUSSION

[00:05:02]

ITEM A THREE 10, 10,621 PIONEER FARMS DRIVE AS A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 25TH.

ITEM A FOUR 13,300 DESLER ROAD IS ALSO A CONSENT POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 25TH.

GOING ON TO BE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS B ONE 200 LEE BARTON DRIVE.

THE PEGGY HOUSE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

ITEM B 2 16 16 NORTHWOOD ROAD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

I DIDN'T B3 42 0 8 AVENUE F IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

REMEMBER, IF ANYONE WANTS TO PULL THESE, GET MY ATTENTION AND WE'LL PULL AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.

OTHERWISE, IF THEY'RE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, UH, THEY'LL BE APPROVED WHEN WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THE NEXT ITEM BEFORE 6 0 8, BAYLOR STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT, GOING ON TO SEE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS WITHIN A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT ITEM C 1 18 0 5 WATERSTON.

I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THAT ITEM FOR DISCUSSION ITEM C 2 25 21 JARRETT AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEMS, C3 1104 TOYA IN THE CLARKSVILLE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

I'D LIKE TO PULL THAT FOR DISCUSSION ITEMS. SEE FOR 1104 CHARLOTTE STREET, THE APPLICANT HAS ASKED TO POSTPONE THIS.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITE DATE FOR POSTPONEMENT, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST FOR POSTPONEMENT ITEM C 5 82 SAN MARCUS STREET.

I'D LIKE TO PULL THAT ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.

YES.

OKAY.

ITEM C 4 15 0 5 TRAVIS HEIGHTS BOULEVARD.

I'D LIKE TO PULL THAT FOR DISCUSSION ITEM C 7 14, 12 ALAMEDA DRIVE IN TRAVIS HEIGHTS.

I'D LIKE TO PULL THAT FOR DISCUSSION.

I DIDN'T SEE A 2,400 PEMBERTON PLACE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

I DIDN'T SEE 9 23 0 8 WOODLAWN BOULEVARD IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM C 10 21 0 9.

KENWOOD AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEMS. SEE 11 1400 MOLEY DRIVE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

WE'VE HAD A CITIZEN REGISTER TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF ITEM C 11 1400 MILE DRIVE.

OKAY, THEN LET'S PULL THAT FOR DISCUSSION.

WHAT WILL NOT BE ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA? ITEM C 12 19 0 8 WAS 33RD STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

THE NEXT GROUP OF CASES UNDER G DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR DEMOLITION OR RELOCATION AT M D 1 8 12 WEST 12TH STREET IS A POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 20 AMOUNT OF CHAIR.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT ONE TO A DISCUSSION POSTPONEMENT, UH, DISCUSSION POSTPONED, MATT, UM, STAFF WAS THIS POSTPONEMENT.

UM, THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S RUEPLUS REQUESTS FOR POSTPONEMENT.

YES.

MADAM CHAIR.

THIS IS AT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK AT THE OCTOBER MEETING FOR DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONER, DID YOU STILL WANT THAT PULLED FOR DISCUSSION I'LL SUPPORT THE POSTPONEMENT I'M JUST KEENLY AWARE OF, OR NOT AT ALL AWARE I'M KEENLY INTERESTED AND LACKING AWARENESS ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT PROCESS.

UM, AND WE HAD A LOT OF, UH, INTERESTS, BUT MOSTLY BASED ON THE OCCUPANT OF THE BUILDING.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT THINGS MIGHT BE WORKING OUT SEPARATELY WITH THAT, BUT OBVIOUSLY OUR PURVIEW IS THE BUILDING ITSELF AND, UH, VERY INTERESTED.

SO, UM, I'M FINE.

LEAVING IT ON THE CONSENT POST HELMET.

I THINK I JUST SAID MY PIECE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU THEN THAT WILL, UH, THAT WILL BE ON THE POSTPONEMENT AGENDA

[00:10:01]

ITEM D 2 25 0 1 INWOOD PLACE.

THAT ITEM IS OFFERED FOR DISCUSSION ITEM D 3 47, 11 DOLORES AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM G FOUR 30.

YEAH.

I'M CHAIR ON DAY THREE.

I DON'T WANT TO PULL IT NECESSARILY, BUT I WAS HOPING I WOULD SEE THE ELEVATIONS AND I GOT TWO BLANK SHEETS IN MY BACKUP.

I CHECKED THAT AS WELL.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ELEVATION DRAWINGS FOR THAT.

UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PULL IT SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST SEE THE DRAWINGS? I DON'T THINK SO.

UH, I I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT.

I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY EXTEND THE MEETING.

UM, BUT MAYBE IF STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO SEND THAT AS A UP I'D APPRECIATE IT.

STAFF.

DID YOU GET THAT? MAYBE IF YOU HAVE THOSE, PLEASE SEND THEM ALONG FOLLOW UP.

SO, UH, D 3 47, 11 DOLORES AVENUE IS STILL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM D 4 34 11 CLEAR V.

DRIVE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM D 5 21 0 3 EAST EIGHTH STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM D SIX, 12 OF FOUR EAST SIXTH STREET WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM ITEM D 7 19 0 2 TILL IT'S AN AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM D 8, 9 0 8.

COLUMBUS STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM D 9, 9 0 9 WEST.

ANY STREET IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM D 10 19 0 1.

HAMILTON AVENUE IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT ITEM D 11 45, 12 AVENUE C IS OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

AND THOSE ARE THE LAST CASES WE WILL THEN GO ON TO E DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT CASES, F DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR TAX ABATEMENT ITEM FOR PERMISSION IN STAFF ITEMS, COMMITTEE REPORTS AND SEE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY.

NOW I'M GOING TO ASK ONE MORE TIME.

THOSE ITEMS THAT I SAID WERE OFFERED FOR CONSENT.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO PULL THOSE ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, LET ME KNOW NOW, RAISE YOUR HAND OR CALL OUT AND WE WILL PULL THEM OTHERWISE.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I? YES.

AND WE REVIEWED 6 0 8 BAYLOR PLACE.

OKAY.

WAS THAT YOU? UM, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON? NO, THAT'S COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

I WAS FOCUSED ON THE SPRING.

I DON'T SEE YOU UP THERE.

UM, YES.

UH, WE CAN PULL THAT ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.

WHAT'S THE ITEM NUMBER IT'S GOING TO BE BEFORE.

OKAY.

BEFORE IS NOW NO LONGER ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

IT WILL BE A DISCUSSION ITEM.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO

[Consent Agenda: B1, B2, B3, C2, C8, C9, C10, C12, D3, D4, D5, D7, D8, D9, D10, D11]

ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA? SO MOVED.

OKAY.

THAT WAS A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER COOK.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

IT'S UNANIMOUS.

IT PASSES.

[Postponed Items: A3, A4, C4, D1]

OKAY.

THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE FOR POSTPONEMENT ARE A THREE PIONEER FARMS DRIVE A FOUR 13,300 DECILE ROAD, C4 1104, CHARLOTTE STREET, D 1 8 12 WEST 12TH STREET.

DID WE HAVE ANOTHER POSTPONEMENT CONSENT POSTPONEMENT? OKAY.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO POSTPONE THESE ITEMS? SO MOVED SECOND.

OKAY.

THAT WAS THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER COOK.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

THE REST OF THE ITEMS, IF YOUR ITEM JUST PASSED ON CONSENT, THAT MEANS YOUR PROJECT PASSED.

PLEASE LOOK AT WHETHER YOU NEED TO PREPARE A DOCUMENTATION.

THAT'S THE EIGHT BY 10 PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL ELEVATIONS OFFICE SIDES AND A HISTORIC NARRATIVE

[00:15:01]

SUITABLE FOR ARCHIVING AT THE AUSTIN HISTORY CENTER.

THESE ARE MOSTLY FOR DEMOLITION CASES OR CASES AWARE OF, UM, SIGNIFICANT ALTERATIONS ARE MADE AND YOU MEAN LEAVE THE, UH, THE CHAMBERS.

NOW, IF YOU LIKE THE OTHER ITEMS, WE WILL DISCUSS THEM IN THEIR ORDER AND THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

[3.A.1. C14H-2021-0144; ZC-2021-140508 – 3004 Belmont Cir. – Discussion Council District 7]

OUR FIRST ITEM ON UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR HISTORIC ZONING IS A ONE, 3000 FOR BELMONT CIRCLE.

THIS IS AN OWNER INITIATED HISTORIC ZONING CASE.

IT DIDN'T MEAN COMMISSIONERS ITEM.

A ONE, UM, AS MADAM CHAIR JUST POINTED OUT IS AN OWNER INITIATED APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC ZONING AT 3004 BELMONT CIRCLE.

UH, THIS ARCHITECT DESIGN MID-CENTURY MODERN HOUSE IS ASSOCIATED WITH PROMINENT LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL ARCHITECTURE FIRM.

LUNGREN MOWER IS A RARE SURVIVING EXAMPLE OF THE RESIDENTIAL DESIGN AND AUSTIN EXHIBITING.

MANY OF THE KEY CHARACTER DEFINING FEATURES OF THEIR STYLE.

THAT'S THE HOUSEHOLD'S ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE AS AN EXCEPTIONALLY INTACT EXAMPLE OF THE REGIONAL ADAPTATION OF THE MID CENTURY MODERN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE POPULARIZED IN 1950S, AUSTIN, THE HOUSE IS ALSO REPRESENTATIVE OF SIGNIFICANT TRENDS IN COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT.

UM, IN MID CENTURY, AUSTIN, AUSTIN, AND IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH SHIRLEY AND JHARREL OR TANK ROBINETT WHO PLAYED IMPORTANT ROLES IN AUSTIN'S BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY IN THE LATE 20TH CENTURY, FROM THE BEGINNING OF THEIR OCCUPANCY IN AUSTIN, THE RUBIN X BECAME DEEPLY INVOLVED WITH CONGREGATION, A GOOD AS LIKE HIM AND, UH, AUSTIN'S JEWISH COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, THE HOUSE AT 3004 BELMONT CIRCLE SERVED AS THE NEXUS OF THE RIBBON AT FAMILIES, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

THEY LIVED THERE FOR 60 YEARS FROM 1955 UNTIL 2015, AND THE HOUSE REPRESENTS THE MOST TANGIBLE REPRESENTATION OF THEIR SYDNEY SIGNIFICANCE EXTANT IN AUSTIN TODAY, STAFF CAN RECOMMEND THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE AS THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED THE PROPERTY SIGNIFICANCE IN THE AREAS OF ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT OR OWNER HERE TO SPEAK? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? UM, WHO WAS THAT? WHO SAID THEY WERE HERE? YEAH.

AND YOUR NAME? UH, OKAY.

CLAIRE.

YOU'RE THE OWNER, RIGHT? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE OPPOSED TO THIS APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC ZONING? OKAY.

DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

THAT WAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER COOK SECONDARY BY COMMISSIONER TALL.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS CASE, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR, OKAY.

UM, DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS CASE SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT? NO, I'D MOVED TO POSTPONE THIS TO OUR OCTOBER MEETING, UM, AND HOPEFULLY GET A GREATER AMOUNT OF INFORMATION.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THE PRESENTATION WE GET JUST GOT, UH, HAD ENOUGH MEAT TO IT, TO, UM, TO WARN US MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS HISTORIC ZONING TONIGHT.

OKAY.

THERE, THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF, I WAS ACTUALLY VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE AMOUNT OF DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS IN OUR BACKUP, BUT, UM, UH, IS THERE SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE PRESENTED AT THE NEXT MEETING IF WE, UH, VOTE TO POSTPONE THIS? YOU KNOW, I JUST, I GUESS I FEEL LIKE NORMALLY WHEN HISTORIC, UH, WHEN STUFF GETS INTO THE, A AGENDA OF OUR, UM, OR SECTION OF OUR AGENDA, WE'VE SEEN IT AND BEEN ABLE TO CHEW ON IT A LITTLE LONGER.

WE STARTED OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE AGENDA.

SO FOR THIS TO POP UP, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M READY.

UH, BUT IF WE GO THROUGH THE DISCUSSION AND WE GET THERE AS A COMMISSION, I COULD SUPPORT IT.

UM, BUT YEAH.

IS THAT A MOTION TO POSTPONE THEM? WELL, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A MOTION TO POSTPONE, BUT I WASN'T SECONDED WELL, W W SEE IF THERE'S A SECOND, IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION COMMISSIONER, A LITTLE SECONDED

[00:20:01]

IT FOR DISCUSSION.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS YOUR MOTION? UH, FURTHER COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON? OH, I PROBABLY JUST REPEAT WHAT I SAID THAT, UM, NORMALLY WHEN STUFF GETS INTO THE AA SECTION OF OUR AGENDA, WE WE'VE ALREADY SEEN IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND BEEN ABLE TO, UM, CHEW ON IT A LITTLE BIT.

AND, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION DISCUSS WHY WE SHOULD INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING HERE, COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY.

UH, I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.

UH, THE REASON I THINK WE HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO CHEW ON IT IS BECAUSE THIS IS AN OWNER INITIATED, UH, APPLICATION, WHICH WE DON'T SEE VERY OFTEN.

UH, USUALLY THEY COME TO US AS A RESULT OF LONG CONSIDERATION TO, TO TRY TO SAVE IT FROM DEMOLITION.

BUT I THINK THIS IS, UH, ONE OF THE NOW MORE UNUSUAL OWNER APPLICATIONS.

AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO, TO POSTPONE THAT, GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION IN THE BACKUP I'LL, I'LL JUST QUICKLY ADD THIS AS COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER.

UH, I LIVE IN, UH, LONDON AND MAR DESIGNED HOME MYSELF.

SO I'M A FAN I'VE BEEN THROUGH YOUR HOME AT BELMONT WHEN IT WAS, UH, ON THE MARKET PREVIOUSLY.

IT'S AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE.

IT'S IN EXCELLENT CONDITION.

UH, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE HISTORICAL VALUE OF THE, THE FOLKS THAT LIVED THERE BEFORE, BUT IN TERMS OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE CONDITION, IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE IT ON THE AGENDA TO BE PRESERVED THIS WAY.

SO THANKS.

IT ALSO HAS EXCEPTIONAL INTERIORS, UM, WHICH IS NOT NECESSARILY OUR PURVIEW, BUT AS FAR AS, UM, ITS ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY, UH, BOTH INSIDE AND OUT, IT SEEMS TO BE, UM, VERY INTACT.

MADAM CHAIR.

YES.

COMMISSIONER HINDSIGHT.

WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD LIMIT OUR DISCUSSION CURRENTLY TO THE MOTION, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH WHETHER WE SHOULD HEAR THIS TONIGHT.

AND I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THAT.

UH, I ALSO CANNOT SUPPORT THE MOTION, UH, THOUGH I APPRECIATE, UH, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTONE'S CAUTION, UH, AND PARTICULARLY WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS ERA WHERE WE STILL HAVE, UM, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FEEL OUR WAY THROUGH MID-CENTURY MODERN BUILDINGS.

UM, AS, AS, UH, ONE OF MY PREDECESSORS SAID AT ONE POINT HE WAS HAVING A HARD TIME DESIGNATING BUILDINGS THAT WEREN'T AS OLD AS HE WAS, BUT, UH, I, I DON'T, I'M NOT QUITE THERE IN THIS CATEGORY YET, BUT, UH, IT'S GETTING CLOSE, BUT I THINK THE ISSUE HERE, UH, GET BACK TO WHAT COMMISSIONER COOK SAID, THIS IS OWNER INITIATED.

AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE EXTREMELY FORTUNATE THAT THE RIGHT PEOPLE SAW THE VALUE OF THIS PROPERTY AND TO BE ABLE TO BASICALLY STRIKE WHILE THE IRON'S HOT, I WOULD HATE TO HAVE THEM HAVE 30 DAYS TO THINK OF ALL THE REASONS WHY THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO DO THIS AND WITHDRAWAL THEIR NOMINATION.

YES, COMMISSIONER.

RIGHT.

I DON'T SUPPORT THE MOTION EITHER.

AND TO THAT END AGAIN, WHILE I APPRECIATE, UM, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTONE'S, UM, CONCERN THERE, WE HAVE A 65 PAGE DOCUMENTATION ON THIS PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN PREPARED BY PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIANS AND PRESERVATIONISTS, AND HAS, UM, EXCELLENT DOCUMENTATIONS, FANTASTIC BIBLIOGRAPHY, UM, AND HISTORY OF BOTH THE OCCUPANTS AND THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOUSE ITSELF.

AND I THINK WE HAVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO DETERMINE THAT IT MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR DESIGNATION.

ANYONE ELSE? I WAS COMPLETELY KNOCKED OUT BY THE LEVEL OF DOCUMENTATION.

YES.

COMMISSIONER, THAT THAT'S A PRECISE ARCHITECTURAL TERM KNOCKED OUT, UH, COMMISSIONER LITTLE SIMILARLY WILL NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION TO POSTPONE.

I WOULD SUPPORT A MOTION TO DESIGNATE.

IT WAS A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION THAT I WAS REALLY INTERESTED IN THE HOUSE AND TRYING TO GET THROUGH WHILE MY CHILDREN KEPT COMING AT ME.

BUT IT WAS A GREAT READ AND GREAT INFORMATION ON THIS HOUSE.

OKAY.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION, WHICH IS TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SAY, AYE, UH, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON.

ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF YOUR MOTION? NO.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED, PLEASE SAY NAY.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT WENT DOWN, UH, COMMISSIONER LITTLE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROPOSE A, UH, AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION? SURE.

I WILL PROPOSE THAT WE INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE HOUSE ON THE BASIS OF ITS ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS.

I THINK THE OWNER HAS INITIATED, I THINK IT'S OUR JOB AT THIS POINT TO RECOMMEND, THEN I WILL RECOMMEND.

OKAY.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING HISTORIC ZONING FOR THIS HOUSE.

[00:25:01]

OH, NO, NO DISCUSSION.

NO, PLEASE DISCUSSION.

UH, I HAD SOME, SOME THOUGHTS ON IT.

UM, UH, THERE WAS A CITIZEN COMMENT THAT CAME IN THAT SAID THIS HOUSE WASN'T OLD ENOUGH.

UH, NOT HISTORIC ENOUGH.

IT CLEARLY IS WITHIN THE 50 YEAR HISTORY AND, UH, DISCUSSING ABOUT MID CENTURY MODERN AND KIND OF TACKLING THAT, THAT HORIZON IS NOW IN 1971.

SO, UH, I KIND OF HAVE A THEORY THAT THINGS REALLY AREN'T APPRECIATED FOR AFTER ABOUT 35 YEARS.

PEOPLE WANT TO TEAR THEM DOWN AND AFTER ABOUT ANOTHER 35 YEARS, PEOPLE WANT TO SAVE THEM.

SO MID CENTURY MODERN IS KIND OF IN THAT DIFFICULT HILL RIGHT NOW, BUT IT DEFINITELY IS A HISTORIC, UH, AGE.

UH, I THINK THE ARCHITECTURE IS BEYOND REPROACH.

IT'S, UH, THE ONLY KNOWN LUNDGREN AND MAUER, UM, STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE LANDMARKED AT THIS POINT.

UH, SO I THINK THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.

AND AS FAR AS THE HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS, UH, THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE, UM, THAT THERE ARE SO MANY HOUSES OF THIS AGE.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT HISTORIC BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF THEM, BUT THAT'S WHY SO MANY WONDERFUL HOMES WITH GREAT HISTORY FALL PREY TO THE, THE WRECKING BALL IS BECAUSE WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF THEM, YOU DON'T APPRECIATE THEM UNTIL THERE'S SO FEW OF THEM AND NOW IS OUR TIME TO BE SELECTING THE ONES THAT ARE WORTH SAVING.

SO, UH, I WANTED TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE AND, UM, IN TERMS OF THE, UH, HISTORIC ASSOCIATIONS WITH THE OWNERS, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE BUSINESS OWNERS, THEY WERE PHILANTHROPISTS AND THEY WERE LEADERS IN THEIR RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY AND THERE WAS A CITY PROCLAMATION, UH, SPEAKING TO THEIR LEADERSHIP AND THEIR IMPACT ON THE CITY.

SO THE CITY DOESN'T PROCLAIM INSIGNIFICANT THINGS.

SO I WOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER THEM, UH, TO BE, UM, HAVE CONTRIBUTED SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE HISTORY OF THE CITY.

UH, AND I AGREE THE BACKUP, UH, LAYS OUT ALL THE DETAIL, BUT, UH, THERE ARE PROGRESSIVE IDEALS IN SERVING UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES AND SERVING UNDERSERVED, UM, MOVEMENTS WITH THEIR PHILANTHROPY, UM, TIED IN WITH THE PROGRESSIVENESS OF THE MID-CENTURY MODERN DESIGN, UH, IN AUSTIN, WHICH, UH, IS A PROGRESSIVE CITY, I THINK ALL TIES IN TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS HOME AND THE REASON THAT SHOULD BE RECOMMENDED.

THANK YOU.

UM, YOUR, YOUR POINT ABOUT, UH, THE RECENT PAST IS WELL TAKEN AND YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR AGENDA TO SEE HOW MANY, UM, MID CENTURY PROPERTIES OR PROPERTIES FROM THE FORTIES AND FIFTIES, UM, HAVE GONE TO THE DEMOLITION, TO THE WRECKING BALL WITHOUT EVEN BEING PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.

UM, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER? IT OCCURS TO ME THAT AS I'VE JUST POINTED OUT, I LIVE IN A LUNGREN AND MOREHOUSE.

SO MY VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT BEING A HISTORICAL LANDMARK MIGHT, MIGHT BE CONSIDERED SELF-SERVING.

SO PERHAPS I WILL NOT VOTE IN AMY AT ALL IN THIS, BUT I'M CONFIDENT THAT IT WILL PASS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY A REASON TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM THE VOTE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

JUST I'VE WANTED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT.

SO THEN I WON'T WORK HERE.

OKAY.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDING HISTORIC ZONING, PLEASE SAY, AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? UH, COMMISSIONER HEIM SOUTH THAT I THINK THAT WAS UNANIMOUS.

WE HAVE RECOMMENDED HISTORIC ZONING.

OKAY.

NOW

[3.A.2. PR-2021-092644 – 3703 Meadowbank Dr. – Discussion Council District 10]

OUR NEXT ITEM IS 8, 2 37 0 3.

METRO BANK DRIVE.

FIRST WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION BY STAFF, LOGAN COMMISSIONERS ITEM 82 IS AN OWNER OPPOSED HISTORIC ZONING CASE OR THE FRANK DENIUS HOUSE AT 37 0 3.

MEADOWBANK INITIATED BY THE COMMISSION AT THE AUGUST 23RD MEETING.

UM, AND THIS IS A PARTIAL DEMOLITION APPLICATION.

THE PROPOSED PROJECT, UH, INCLUDES FACADE REPLACEMENT AS Y'ALL CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN.

AND THESE PLANS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR BACKUP A BASIS FOR RECOMMENDATION ON THIS PROPERTY.

UM, OUR ARCHITECTURE AND HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS, UH, THIS BUILDING IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE CLASSICAL REVIVAL STYLE DESIGNED BY GEORGE MATTHEWS PAGE AUSTIN'S PAGE SOUTHERLAND PAGE FROM, UM, IT IS LIKELY THAT DENIUS WAS FAMILIAR WITH PAGE SUTHERLAND'S PAGE WHERE PAGES WORK AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION.

THIS IS A TWO STORY SYMMETRICAL GREEK REVIVAL DESIGN WITH A HIPPED ROOF AND CLADDING IT'S FULL WIDTH, INTEGRAL PORCH.

AND SECOND FLOOR BALCONY ARE SUPPORTED BY CLASSICAL COLUMNS.

GROUND FLOOR WINDOWS ARE SIX OVER SIX FALLS.

SECOND FLOOR ADMINISTRATION COMPRISES GLAZED FOR PAIN, FRENCH DOORS.

WHAT SHUTTERS SURROUND ALL DOORS AND WINDOWS.

IT WAS BUILT IN 1966 FOR FRANKLIN W DENIUS

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DECORATOR WORLD WAR II, VETERAN AND RENOWNED UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SPONSOR AT 19.

DENI HAS FOUGHT IN THE BATTLE OF MORTON IN 1944 AS AN INFANTRY INFANTRY STAFF SERGEANT, UH, AND HE HELD A VITAL POSITION FOR THE ALLIES AGAINST 40,000 NAZI TROOPS.

HIS FORESIGHT AND INNOVATION HELPED TO CREATE A TURNING POINT IN THE WAR AFTER THE NORMANDY LANDINGS FOREVER CHANGING HISTORY.

HE HAS TOUTED AS THE 10TH MODE, MOST DECORATED WORLD WAR II VETERAN BY SOME SOURCES AFTER HIS ARMY SERVICE DENI HAS GRADUATED FROM UT SCHOOL OF LAW IN 1949 AND BEGAN HIS CAREER AT LOONEY AND CLARK, WHERE HE LATER BECAME PARTNER BY 1976.

HE'D OPENED HIS OWN PRACTICE SPECIALIZING IN OIL AND GAS LAW.

AND HE ALSO WORKED AS A BUSINESS CONSULTANT FOR LYNDON BAINES JOHNSON.

HIS 2018 ARBITRARY DESCRIBES HIM AS A TEXAS GIANT AMANDA DESTINY AND CIVIC AND COMMUNITY IMPACT AS IT DETAILS HIS LIFELONG CIVIC ENGAGEMENT FOR MANY LONGHORNS, DNS IS BEST KNOWN AS THE FOUNDER OF THE TEXAS EXES, THE UNIVERSITY'S ALUMNI ASSOCIATION.

HE SERVED AS OFFICIAL COUNSEL TO UNIVERSITY PRESIDENTS AND SPEARHEADED, NUMEROUS FUNDRAISING CAMPAIGNS.

HE MADE IT A POINT TO ATTEND EVERY GAME AND PRACTICE AND THE TEAMS PRACTICE FACILITY.

IT WAS LATER NAMED IN HIS HONOR ALONG HARD MAGAZINE, OFFICIALLY NAMED HIM A TRUE HERO AND THE ULTIMATE LONGHORN IN 2008.

UM, AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS PROJECT IS FOR THE COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING FOR THE BUILDINGS ARCHITECTURE, UH, AND ITS HISTORICAL ASSOCIATION WITH FRANK.

YES.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR MS. CALLAN? OKAY.

BY OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS, THIS IS AN APPLICATION.

THIS IS COMMISSION INITIATED.

SO WOULD PEOPLE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THIS SPEAK FIRST? IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION TO RECOMMEND HISTORIC ZONING? IS THERE ANY ONE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF IS THAT PLEASE COME DOWNSTAIRS, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

COME TO THE MIC AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

I'M BRIAN.

UM, MY FAMILY OWNS THIS PROPERTY, UH, AND THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN WHAT THE STAFF SAID.

I KNOW ALL ABOUT FRANK DENIUS.

I'VE KNOWN HIM ALL MY LIFE.

NO, HIS TWO CHILDREN.

UH, WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW IS THAT THIS HOUSE WAS VERY BADLY DAMAGED IN THE STORM.

BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD TURNED THE WATER OFF TO THE HOUSE AT A WATER METER.

WAS IT TURNS OUT THERE WERE TWO WATER METERS.

THERE WAS ONE FOR THE OUTDOOR IRRIGATION AND ONE FOR THE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE.

WE TURNED THE ONE OFF FOR THE OUTDOOR IRRIGATION.

DIDN'T KNOW OF THAT.

THERE WERE TWO.

SO PIPES BURST ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THIS HOUSE AND RAN WATER FOR OVER SIX WEEKS BEFORE WE WENT TO THE HOUSE AND DISCOVERED IT, WE HAD A TEAM COME IN AND THEY GUTTED THE ENTIRE INSIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THEN HAD A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER LOOK AT IT TO SAY, IT'S VERY DOUBTFUL THAT A LOT OF THE INTERIOR FRAMING, UH, CAN BE REUSED.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE GOT TO TAKE IT ALL OUT.

IT'S ALMOST NOTHING BUT A TRUE TEAR DOWN AT THIS POINT BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE.

AND, UH, IT IS HISTORIC IN THE SENSE OF THE REHEARSING WHO DID BUILD IT, MR. DENIUS.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE DIDN'T THINK THAT THIS WOULD EVER COME TO THIS, UH, WITH ALL OF THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE THAT WAS CAUSED.

AND, UH, OUR BUILDER HAS YET TO REALLY MAKE A DETERMINATION OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT A WHOLE LOT OF THE INTERIOR IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME OUT AND BE REFRAMED, INCLUDING AT LEAST ONE EXTERIOR WALL.

AND, UH, THAT MEANS IT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT BRICK.

AND SO THE BRICK AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME OFF ON THAT WALL.

IT'S THE, UH, NORTH

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WALL OF THE HOUSE, IF YOU WILL, AND A COMPLETELY BE REFRAMED, THERE'S ALSO SUBTERRANEAN DAMAGE BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IS ACTUALLY ON PIERS AND BEAMS. WELL, ALL HOUSES TODAY GENERALLY ARE ON A CONCRETE SLAB.

THIS IS STILL ON A PIER AND BEAM IN ALL OF, A LOT OF THE PEERS BELOW ARE ALSO DAMAGED.

SO THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES TO HAVE TO ADDRESS, UH, IS IT HISTORICAL FROM THE POINT OF WHO OWNED IT AND BUILT IT FOR SURE, BUT WE ALSO DIDN'T ANTICIPATE HAVING THIS, UH, EXTENSIVE DAMAGE, THE CLEANUP DAMAGE ON THIS COST $660,000.

AND THAT'S NOT EVEN BUILDING IT BACK TO GET IT BACK TO LIVABLE CONDITION, PROBABLY ANOTHER MILLION OR A MILLION AND A HALF.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THE STAFF KNOWS ANY OF THAT.

BE HAPPY TO MEET THEM OUT THERE AT THEIR CONVENIENCE ANYTIME AND TAKE THEM THROUGH THE HOUSE AND THEY CAN SEE FOR THEMSELVES.

UM, IS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HARDMAN? UM, I'M A LITTLE, UM, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

IT, I UNDERSTAND THIS HAS SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE, BUT, UM, WHAT IS YOUR OBJECTION TO LANDMARK STATUS? AND YOU CAN HA DAVID, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS HOUSE MAY HAVE TO COME DOWN.

I MEAN, FLAT TO THE GROUND BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE.

OKAY.

UM, STAFF WAS THIS, WAS THIS AN APPLICATION FOR DEMOLITION? I'M SORRY.

PARTIAL DEMOLITION, PARTIAL DEMOLITION TO TAKE, SHE SHOWED IT IN THE PLANS THERE LIKE SIX BIG ICONIC, UH, COLUMNS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, VERY SOUTHERN COLONIAL ARCHITECTURE.

AND THOSE COLUMNS ARE SOME PEOPLE MAY LIKE THEM AND THERE ARE ALL IN HOUSES ALL OVER, UH, AUSTIN, OR AT LEAST ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN OVER THERE.

AND THE ARCHITECT IS THERE.

THEY ARE, IS PROPOSING THAT THOSE COME OFF AND THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY BE A MUCH MORE CONTEMPORARY, KIND OF A LOOK, THE KIND OF MEDITERRANEAN LOOK THAT THE ATHLETE IS IN THE APPLICATION AND THE PLANS SHE, AND SHE SHOWED THOSE OR SOMEBODY WHO SHOWED THEM, UH, THERE IT IS.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO HISTORIC ZONING? OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

A SECOND PLEASE.

MOTION AND SECOND MOTION BY COMMISSIONER.

TALLAGHT SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCWHORTER.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

SAY AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

IT PASSES.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE? UH, I'LL MOVE TO RELEASE THE PARTIAL DEMOLITION PERMIT PENDING A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

I'LL SECOND THAT, OKAY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOUR MOTION COMMISSIONER COOK? I THINK THE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS ARE OBVIOUSLY OUTSTANDING.

UH, UH, MR. DEAN IS HIS NAME IS, UH, FOUND ON THE UT CAMPUS.

IT'S THE ARCHITECTURE ON, ON THIS ONE? THAT DOESN'T IT'S WELL, IT'S, IT'S GRANTED TO ME, DOESN'T REALLY SPEAK OF THE TIME AND DOESN'T SEEM TO BE NECESSARILY OUTSTANDING OR SPEAK TO THE, UH, TO THE MID SIXTIES.

TO ME, IT SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A THROWBACK.

UM, AND SO IT, AS A FULL PACKAGE TO ME, ESPECIALLY AGAINST OWNER OPPOSITION, IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE THERE, UH, TO TRY TO PUSH IT, UH, FOR LANDMARK STATUS.

CAN I SHARE A LITTLE, CAN YOU ADDRESS YOUR SECOND? I WILL AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER COOK'S COMMENTS.

UM, I THINK THE HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS FOR THIS ARE WELL-RESEARCHED AND WITHOUT REFUTE, BUT I'M REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THE ARCHITECTURE.

I THINK IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF CLASSICAL REVIVAL STYLE ARCHITECTURE, BUT I DON'T

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KNOW THAT I CAN SAY IT'S A SIGNIFICANT EXAMPLE FROM THE TIME PERIOD WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED.

SO I, I JUST DON'T THINK I CAN SUPPORT IT UNDER BOTH OF THOSE CRITERIA.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.

OKAY.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RELEASING THE PERMIT.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER LAROCHE IS A MIL THAT HE HAS OPPOSED THE MOTION PASSES.

THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, FAILS.

OKAY.

THE TWO ITEMS THAT WE HAD ON HERE, UH, REGARDING, UH, PIONEER FARMS AND DESIREE ROAD, THOSE WERE POSTPONED

[3.B.4. HR-2021-133048 – 608 Baylor St. – Consent Taylor House Council District 9]

WILL NOW GO ON TO BE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPLICATIONS FOR CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS.

AND WE HAD A NUMBER ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

OUR FIRST ONE UP SHOULD BE BEFORE 6 0 8 BAYLOR.

OKAY, GOOD.

DO YOU THINK COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS ELIZABETH FROM IT ON CITY STAFF.

UH, THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO BUILD A TWO-STORY ACCESSORY STRUCTURE BEHIND THE TAYLOR HOUSE, WHICH IS A HISTORIC LANDMARK.

UM, THE PRIMARY REASON STAFF SUPPORTS, UH, THIS APPLICATION IS THERE IS EXISTING OTHER CONSTRUCTION TO THE REAR OF THE TAYLOR HOUSE.

UM, THERE IS A TWO-STORY GARAGE APARTMENT, UH, WHICH IS ALONG THE ALLEY SIDE.

UM, AMBER IS GOING TO DRIVE US THERE.

SO WE WERE JUST AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE GOING AROUND TO THE ALLEY AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S REMOTELY VISIBLE UNTIL YOU'RE UPON IT.

UM, SO SIMILARLY VERY MODERN IN ITS ARTICULATION, BUT WITHOUT A, UM, MAJOR IMPACT ON THE PUBLIC'S PERCEPTION OF THIS HISTORIC LANDMARK.

UH, THERE ALSO IS A, UM, AT 2014 UTILITY WORKSHOP, THAT'S ACTUALLY BEHIND, UH, THE BACK OF THE PARCEL THAT WAS IN PLACE WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS LANDMARKED AND THAT'S NOT VISIBLE, UH, FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO, UM, IT'S, IT IS A DRAMATIC DEPARTURE FROM THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE, UH, THE QUEEN ANNE, UH, STYLE, UH, HOUSE, THE TAYLOR HOUSE.

BUT, UM, STEPH FEELS THAT IN LIGHT OF THE OTHER VERY MODERN CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S PRESENT AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO EXTANT, UH, SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPE FEATURES OR OTHER HISTORIC COMPONENTS TO THE REAR OF THE HOUSE, UH, THAT THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION CAN APPROVE.

THANK YOU.

UM, ELIZABETH, IS THIS PROPERTY IN THE CASTLE HILL HISTORIC DISTRICT? YES, IT'S ALSO IN THE CASTLE HILL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

OKAY.

WHAT DID THE, UH, CASTLE HILL DESIGN GUIDELINES, UH, SAY ABOUT ACCESSORY DWELLINGS? UM, I ACTUALLY DID NOT REFERENCE THOSE.

I LOOKED MORE AT THE CITYWIDE DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, GIVEN THAT THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL LANDMARK, UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO PULL THOSE UP.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A, A SPEAKER, UM, FOR THIS APPLICATION, BUT I COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR SPEAKERS.

AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE MAYBE CHECK ON THAT.

UM, DO I HAVE SOMEONE HERE IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION? I SEE A HAND UP OVER HERE.

ARE YOU THE OWNER OR APPLICANT? YOU'RE THE ARCHITECT? WOULD YOU PLEASE COME DOWN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND, AND, UM, DISCUSS YOUR CASE? UH, MY NAME IS, UM, MY NAME IS MEL LAWRENCE.

I'M THE ARCHITECT.

UH, WE'VE BEEN THE ARCHITECT ON ALL THESE BUILDINGS ON THIS SITE FROM THE ORIGINAL RESTORATION OF THE, UH, TAYLOR MANSION TO THE GARAGE APARTMENT AND THAT BARN WORKSHOP IN THE BACK.

AND THIS IS A POOL HOUSE IT'S, UH, UM, RIGHT NEXT TO THE POOL, ALONG A LITTLE LINEAR LAR E UH, THE BACKYARD BASICALLY.

UM, SO WE WENT BY THE CITY AND THIS, ALL THAT GUIDELINES AND RAN THIS THROUGH THE THERE'S BEEN NO PROBLEM WITH SONY OR WITH THE CITY, UH, WHEN IT CAME TO THIS, UH, YOU CAN'T SEE IT FROM THE BIG THING WE KNEW ABOUT WAS FROM BAYLOR STREET, EVEN FROM THE ALLEY.

YOU CAN'T SEE IT.

UH, THERE'S NUMEROUS TREES ON THE SITE, UH, THE SPACE BETWEEN THE BARN LIKE WORKSHOP, UM, AND THE ALLEY IS THICK WITH TREES.

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UM, THERE MOSTLY CEDAR ELMS, BUT THERE'S OTHER TREES IN THERE AND FROM THE BAYLOR AREA, THE TOPOGRAPHY RISES SIGNIFICANTLY.

UM, AND THEN THERE'S TREES BETWEEN THE TWO SITES.

THE, UM, THE HOUSE ON THE CORNER IS CURRENTLY UNDER RECONSTRUCTION, JOE, DONNELLY'S DOING THAT WORK, UM, THAT PROJECTS A CONSTRUCTION SITE.

SO IT'S A BIT OF A MESS RIGHT NOW IS CONSTRUCTION SITES WOULD BE, BUT, UH, ONCE THAT IS FINISHED, UH, THAT WILL BE LANDSCAPED TO, BY THE SAME, UH, LANDSCAPE GROUP THAT DID, UH, UH, THE TAYLOR HOUSE.

OKAY.

SO THIS, ONCE THE PROPERTY, THERE'S A HIGH, THERE'S A RISE.

AND ONCE YOU GET TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, IT FLATTENS OUT IN THAT YARD, IN THE, THIS, UH, POOL HOUSE IS AT THE FAR EXTREME OF THAT, UH, BUILDABLE AREA.

UM, I THINK THE PLAN SHOWS HOW FAR, I THINK IT WAS 60 FEET OR SOMETHING FROM THE BACK PORCH OF THE TAYLOR MANSION.

UM, SO IN TERMS OF VISIBILITY, BUT I CAN ANSWER OTHER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE HIM COMMISSIONER LAROCHE, WAS THAT, UH, DID YOU PULL THAT? OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT FOR THE ARCHITECT? UH, I ALSO WORKED ON THE ORIGINAL RESTORATION.

IN FACT, MEL IS THE ARCHITECT AND WE WERE THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, BUT THE QUESTION I HAD WAS MORE, I DIDN'T EVER SEE ANY VIEW FROM SEVENTH.

AND I WAS WONDERING WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET ON SEVENTH AND YOU'RE LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE ALLEY AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING UP THE HILL FROM THE ALLEY.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT OWNER OWNS THE HOUSE THAT IF THE CORNER PLUS THE GARAGE APARTMENT THAT'S YET TO BE BUILT AND IS PURCHASED THE OTHER, THE NEXT BUNGALOW THAT'S THERE.

SO THEY'RE IN CONTROL OF ALL THE LANDSCAPING.

UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE USING THE SAME, UH, LANDSCAPE FROM ARCHITECTURE WOULD, WOULD BE TAKING CARE OF ALL.

THREE OF THOSE ARE ALL, BOTH OF THOSE PARCELS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE BEEN COMBINED INTO ONE, BUT, UH, THERE ARE GAPS BETWEEN THE GARAGE APARTMENT, WHICH IS LIKE A THREE CAR GARAGE.

AND I THINK THERE'S ABOUT A 15 FOOT GAP BETWEEN THAT AND THE CORNER HOUSE.

AND THEN MAYBE 10 FEET BETWEEN THE OTHER ONE.

THOSE ARE THE CHANCES YOU WOULD, UH, YOU WOULD GET US A SMALL SHORT YOU, AND ALL YOU WOULD SEE AT THE POOL HOUSE IS THE, UH, THE BACKSIDE, THEIR ROOF IS A PINK GRIP, A STANDING THEME.

AND THEN AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF IT, UH, THE LOWER PART IS, UH, UH, UH, BOARD FORM CONCRETE, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD SEE THE OWNER'S PROPERTY IS UP HIGHER THAN THE LEATHER'S A LEVEL CHANGE.

AND THEN THERE, THEY'RE MAKING A BUILDING A BIG FENCE AND THEN SOMETHING ABOVE THAT.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE ALL LANDSCAPE SCREEN.

YOU MIGHT SEE SOME OF THE, THE PINK ROOF ROOF, THE STANDING SEAM ROOF.

THAT'S ABOUT ALL.

YOU'D SEE.

UM, IF YOU, IF, IF YOU COULD SEE THAT BACK THAT FAR, THAT I'M SURE YOU, YOU RAISED THE QUESTION OF THE CASTLE HILL.

I HAVE.

YEAH, I, UM, I'VE CONCERNS.

I THINK IT, FOR ONE, THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT'S ON THE SITE, THE WHOLE SITE IS A HISTORIC LANDMARK.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT PROBLEMATIC PUTTING MODERN, UM, STRUCTURES ON A GOOD PORTION OF THE SITE, UM, IS GETTING TAX BENEFITS FROM, UM, FROM THE STATUS AS A HISTORIC LANDMARK.

BUT THE OTHER CONCERN I HAD WAS IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T JUST IMPACT THAT PARTICULAR SITE, IF IT'S IN THE, THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

I WANTED TO KNOW.

UM, DID YOU MEET WITH ANY REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CASTLE HILL THAT'S.

OKAY.

DID YOU MEET WITH ANY REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CASTLE HILL DISTRICT OR ALANNA? I DON'T.

I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

THE OWNER MIGHT'VE, HE'S, UH, UH, VERY TIED IN WITH THAT WHOLE GROUP.

OKAY.

UH, HE'S PERSONALLY BEEN RESTORING A LOT OF THESE HOUSES.

HE INSTIGATED THAT WHOLE RESTORATION OF THE HOUSE ON THE CORNER.

UM, PART OF HIS MISSION WAS TO SAVE AS MANY OF THESE HOUSES AS POSSIBLE.

SO HE'S GOT, UH, UH, TIGHT CONNECTIONS WITH THAT WHOLE GROUP.

SO I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE ANY SURPRISES THERE, UH, JUST AS, AS THE ARCHITECTS, THE TEAM, UH, WE DID NOT HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.

I WILL, I WILL SAY THIS BOTH.

UH, I KNOW THAT THING ON THE ALLEY WAS DESCRIBED AS A CONTEMPORARY, BUT, UM, THEIR SENSIBILITIES ABOUT DESIGN AND THEN THERE'S TO STYLISTIC THINGS ABOUT DESIGN.

AND EVEN THIS POOL HAS

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BEEN TWO STORY HAS STAYED WITH THE SAME SORT OF PORCH APPROACH.

THERE'S A DOWNSTAIRS PORCH, THERE'S AN UPSTAIRS SCREEN PORCH SCREENED IN PORCH.

IT'S ABOUT 40% OF THE UPSTAIRS.

THAT'S THE WORKSHOP BARN.

IT'S JUST, IT'S VERY, UH, THERE'S NOTHING, UM, IN YOUR FACE ABOUT THESE, UM, STRUCTURES, THEY ARE MODERN AND THEIR, THE WAY THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED AND PUT TOGETHER.

AND THEY'RE NOT AS ARTICULATED IN TERMS OF, UH, A REPRODUCTION OF THE QUEEN ANNE STYLE AT THE ORIGINAL HOUSE, BUT THEY STAYED WITH THE S THE IDEA, JUST THE BAR.

AND IT'S LIKE, THERE'S A STONE BASE.

THAT'S REPLICATED, THERE'S A FAMILIAR SHAPE ON THE TOP.

SURE.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THEY'RE NOT THAT THEY MAY BE COMPATIBLE MIGHT.

MY CONCERN WAS JUST THAT THEY'RE NOT HISTORIC, THEREFORE THEY'RE OCCUPYING THE SITE THAT IS GETTING THE HISTORIC LANDMARK SETS, RIGHT? YEAH.

WE KNEW OF NO, UM, REQUIREMENTS FOR US TO BUILD HISTORIC REPLICATIONS.

YOU DON'T WANT HISTORIC REPLICATIONS SINCE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, JUST IN AND OF ITSELF STAFF.

UH, CAN I, HAVE YOU FOUND ANYTHING, UM, THAT PERTAINS TO THIS CASE? UM, SO THE, THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR, UM, THE CASTLE HILL HISTORIC DISTRICT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THE CITYWIDE DESIGN STANDARDS.

UH, THEY TALK ABOUT NEW CONSTRUCTION BEING COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING CONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS IN TERMS OF SETBACK, ORIENTATION, AND DISTANCE, UH, HAVING A COMPATIBLE FORM AND ARCHITECTURAL STYLE, UH, COMPATIBLE, BUT DISCERNIBLE FROM HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN THE DISTRICT, UM, HAVING SIMILAR WALL TO AREA RATIOS, FLORIDA FLOOR HEIGHTS, FENESTRATION PATTERNS, OTHER TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD REALLY BE CONSIDERING, UM, PARTICULARLY IF THIS WERE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, WHICH THIS IS NOT, UM, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MATERIALS BEING, UH, COMPATIBLE, BUT DIFFERENTIATED FROM, UM, WHAT IS THERE HISTORICALLY.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, UM, AND NO ONE ELSE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF OPPOSITION, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

UM, WE'LL SAY, UH, COMMISSIONER COOK MADE THE MOTION COMMISSIONER WRIGHT MADE THE SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, SAY, AYE, ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

IT'S UNANIMOUS.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE, I GUESS, JUST TO CLOSE THE LOOP ON THIS AND, AND GO FULL CIRCLE, I WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW OF THAT SITE.

IS THAT A MOTION? YES.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND THAT THE SKATES HEATED, THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMITTEE? I THINK IT DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND CAR.

YEP.

OKAY.

DO I HEAR AN ALTERNATE MOTION? DON'T EVERYBODY SPEAK AT ONCE I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED, IS THAT COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON OKAY.

YES.

OKAY.

THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? OKAY.

COMMISSIONER, TILL THAT SECONDS, UM, COMMISSIONER FEATHERSTON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS YOUR MOTION? YEAH, MY, UM, I MEAN, THIS WAS MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I, I DROVE DOWN THAT ALLEY MANY, MANY TIMES AND, UH, I'VE SEEN THAT ALLEY PACING, UM, STRUCTURE A LOT.

AND, AND I WAS A MUCH YOUNGER PERSON THEN I DIDN'T EVEN REALLY REGISTER.

IT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH A HISTORIC BUILDING THAT, UH, FACES BAYLOR.

UM, YEAH, I, I THINK I, I GREW WITH THE ARCHITECT THAT, UH, HIS MODERN STRUCTURE IS SORT OF IN KEEPING WITH THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON THE SITE.

AND I THINK THE MOST COMPELLING ARGUMENT IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF HAVING LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAD BEEN AROUND THAT BLOCK FROM ALL SIDES.

I THINK IT'S GONNA BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO CATCH A GLIMPSE OF THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION.

AND SO I DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO OPPOSE IT AND THEREFORE I'M SUPPORTING IT.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST TO STAFF THAT SOMETIME WHEN WE HAVE TRAINING, UH, COMMISSION TRAINING OR,

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UM, THE OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETS THAT WE TAKE UP A COUPLE OF THESE QUESTIONS.

UM, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF CASES WHERE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS BUILT ON THE BACK OF A SITE AND IT'S APPROVED.

UM, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THAT IN TERMS OF THE HISTORIC ZONING FOR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES, AND ALSO WHEN THE, UH, DISTRICT DESIGN STANDARDS SAY THAT IT SHOULD BE COMPATIBLE IN FENESTRATION AND MATERIALS OR WHATEVER IT DOESN'T ALWAYS SAY IF IT'S NOT VISIBLE OR IF IT'S VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.

AND I THINK THIS WOULD HELP, UH, OUR PROCEDURES, UM, HERE TO, UH, HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THESE THINGS.

YES.

UH, I, I DO APPLAUD, UH, MR. TUTTLE'S WORK AND THE PRESERVATION OF THAT IN THAT BLOCK IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND, AND MY, MY ONLY REAL RESERVATION ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING WAS I, I WAS PRESENTED ALLI VIEW AND THE BAYLOR VIEW, BUT NEVER FROM SEVENTH, RIGHT.

JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW ALL THAT WAS GOING TO TIE IN TO THE REST OF THAT BLOCK FROM THAT VANTAGE POINT.

THAT'S ALL.

AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD TO HAVE SIGHT LINES OR SOMETHING TO GIVE THAT, UM, TO ILLUSTRATE VIEW, BECAUSE THAT IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S NOT JUST A LANDMARK PROPERTY, IT'S, IT'S CONTRIBUTING TO A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.

SO IT HAS AN IMPACT ON THE REST OF THE DISTRICT.

UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NO REAL REPUTATION, SO, OKAY.

UM, WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UM, RELEASE THE PERMIT.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

ANY UPON THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY GO FORTH AND PROSPER.

OKAY.

[3.C.1. PR-2021-055578 – 1805 Waterston Ave. – Consent (postponed August 23, 2021) Clarksville National Register District Council District 9]

THE NEXT CASE, UH, C1 1805 WATERSTON.

THIS IS IN THE CLARKSVILLE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

ALRIGHT.

COMMISSIONER'S ITEM C.

ONE IS A PROPOSALS.

THERE'S DEMOLISH A CIRCUIT 1952 HOUSE AND CONSTRUCT A NEW RESIDENCE IN ITS PLACE.

UM, THE ARCHITECTURE OF THIS EXISTING HOUSE, UH, IT'S ONE STORY SIDE GABLED WITH PARTIAL WITH GABLE, PORSCHE, UH, PICTURE WINDOW BOARD, AND BATTEN SIDING AND ATTACHED CAR PORCH.

IT WAS BUILT AROUND 1952 OR HELLY.

AND JOHNNY MET HER, UH, KELLY METTER TAUGHT VOCATIONAL STUDIES AT THE TEXAS STATE LINED UP AN ORPHAN SCHOOL LATER, THE TEXAS STATE SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF.

UH, THEY WERE ACTIVE MEMBERS OF THE METROPOLITAN AME CONGREGATION, AND BOTH TILL IT'S IN COLLEGE, ALUMNI AND CONTRIBUTORS TO THE UNITED NEGRO COLLEGE FUND AS FUNDRAISING COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THEY OPERATED A RADIO AND TV SERVICE, A REPAIR SHOP, UH, AT THE RESIDENCE AROUND 1959.

UH, COMMISSIONERS.

THIS ITEM HAS BEEN ON OUR AGENDA AS A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING, UM, OR THE HUNDRED AND 80 DAY, UH, TIMELINE ESTABLISHED IN CODE, WHICH MEANS THAT THE DEMOLITION APPLICATION AND THE PLANS MUST BE RELEASED TONIGHT IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES NOT TO INITIATE HISTORIC ZONING.

UM, AND THE PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION HAVE REACHED THEIR TIME WHEN IT AS WELL, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT UPON COMPLETION OF A CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE.

UM, AND TO COMMENT ON AND RELEASE PLANS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, ENCOURAGING THE APPLICANT TO SIMPLIFY THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS ROOFLINE AND ITS MASSING, UM, AND TO SIMPLIFY THE ECLECTIC DECORATIVE DETAILS SET THE GARAGE BACK FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.

UM, IF A FRONT FACING GARAGE ORIENTATION IS UNAVOIDABLE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SO THIS HAS BEEN POSTPONED TO ITS LIMIT.

IT HAS.

OKAY.

UM, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT OWNER? NO.

IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE APPLICATION? OKAY.

I, UM, I THINK COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU LOOKED AT YOUR BACKUP, YOU SAW, UH, OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS, WE HAVE HAD, UM, LETTERS FROM, UH, THE PRESIDENT OF THE CLARKSVILLE CDU CCDC.

UM, AND SOME OTHER FOLKS HAVE COME.

UM, THERE ARE SOME, UM, DISAGREEMENT OVER WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

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BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, UM, THIS IS WE'RE HERE AT THE POINT WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS APPLICATION.

AS STAFF SAID, WHETHER IT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF A LANDMARK, UM, RECOGNIZING THAT THIS HOUSE WAS FAIRLY RECENTLY REMODELED TO ITS CURRENT APPEARANCE, OR IF WE RELEASE THE DEMOLITION PERMIT.

UM, FIRST THOUGH, UH, CAN I GET, I TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY.

CAN I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION? OKAY.

UH, COMMISSIONER WRIGHT SECONDS, THE MOTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THE CASE? I'LL MOVE TO RELEASE A DEMOLITION PERMIT, UH, PENDING THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOCUMENTATION PACKAGE, UH, AS REQUIRED AND TO MAKE THE COMMENTS ON THE PLANS THAT THE, UH, THE MASSING AND STYLE, WHILE SOME OF THE DETAILS, UH, EFFORTS HAD BEEN MADE TO MAKE THE STRUCTURE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE PROMINENT FRONT GARAGE AND THE MASSING AND THE ROOF LINES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND ENCOURAGE A FINAL THOUGHT ON THAT.

DO I HEAR A SECOND TO THAT SECOND? OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER COOK SECOND BY COMMISSIONER LAROCHE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR MOTION? UH, THEY'RE JUST WE'RE WE'RE OUT OF TIME, THERE'S, THERE'S NO MORE OPTIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS.

UH, SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE MAY WANT TO DISCUSS IN THE FUTURE.

UM, WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY HAS THE WILL TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE CLARKSVILLE.

UM, BUT IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION YES, COMMISSIONER, RIGHT.

UM, I JUST, WE HAVE NO CHOICE ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO HERE.

I THINK IT'S UNFORTUNATE THE WAY THAT THE OWNER HAS APPROACHED THIS, THE APPLICANT HAS APPROACHED THIS.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SAID FROM THE, FROM THE BEGINNING THAT THERE WISHES THAT THE HOUSE WOULD NOT BE TORN DOWN, BUT THEY KNEW IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO STOP THAT.

AND THEY'VE ASKED ONLY TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD A NEW STRUCTURE THAT THEY FEEL IS COMPATIBLE WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, AND THE APPLICANT HAS NOT DONE THAT.

APPLICANT HAS NOT EVER SHOWED UP HERE TO SPEAK WITH US, UM, SHOWING KIND OF A GENERAL DISENGAGEMENT WITH THIS PROCESS, WITH THE INTENTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DO AND WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TRYING TO DO TO SAVE THEIR ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY.

IT FLIES IN THE FACE OF THIS HISTORIC AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED RIGHT AFTER EMANCIPATION.

AND NONE OF US SHOULD FORGET THAT, UM, WE, THERE IS SOME PROVISION FOR CITY COUNCIL TO DESIGNATE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TAKE UP.

UM, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ARE LOOKING AT A NEW EQUITY BASE PRESERVATION PLAN, UM, YES.

UH, THAT CAN BE DONE, BUT IT, WHEN YOU COMPLETELY DISREGARD AND I, YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THESE FOLKS, UH, AND, UH, I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR, I WON'T, I WON'T, I WON'T GIVE THEM THE SATISFACTION OF VOTING FOR THEIR APPLICATION.

I UNDERSTAND.

YES.

COMMISSIONER HIND, SETH.

YEAH.

I'M JUST AS FRUSTRATED.

UH, HOWEVER, WE HAVE LIMITED TOOLS AND EVEN THOUGH THIS IS, UH, IN A NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT AND IT DID ALLOW US TO TRY TO SEE IF WE COULD GET, UM, MAYBE PEOPLE'S BETTER, UM, BETTER, UH, THOUGHTS, UH, TO, UH, COME FORWARD.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS THIS WOULD CERTAINLY BE, UH, WITH THE ASSOCIATION, BE A PROJECT, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, WORTHY OF RESTORATION, BUT THE HOUSE IN ITS CURRENT STATE AND WITH THE LAST AMOUNT OF RENOVATIONS THAT TOOK PLACE, I'M AFRAID THE ARCHITECTURE JUST FALLS SHORT.

SO THE ONLY OTHER TOOL WE WOULD HAVE WOULD BE HISTORIC DESIGNATION.

AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THIS WOULD NOT RISE TO THAT, UM, TO THAT LEVEL WHERE IT COULD, IT COULD BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD INITIATE OVER AN OWNER'S OBJECTION.

SO, UM, I DO THINK THAT WE DID WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO, AND WE CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THE, UM, AGAIN, BETTER VOICES WOULD PREVAIL, UNFORTUNATELY, IN THIS CASE, THEY DIDN'T, UH, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT HERE.

UM, WE, WE

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MIGHT, UH, AS A COMMISSION, WANT TO PREVAIL UPON CITY COUNCIL, UM, TO PERHAPS TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ESTABLISHING A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT WOULD, UM, PROTECT CLARKSVILLE, UH, IN, IN THE FUTURE.

AND, UM, I, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE, UM, THE MOTION FOR THE SAME REASONS AS COMMISSIONER TO LET, UM, BUT IF THERE'S, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO RELEASE THE, UM, PERMIT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED.

RAISE YOUR HAND.

OPPOSITION, COMMISSIONER MYERS, COMMISSIONER CASTEEL AND COMMISSIONER THAT THE, UM, THE MOTION PASSES OKAY.

OUR NEXT

[3.C.3. HR-2021-115725 – 1104 Toyath St. – Consent (postponed August 23, 2021) Clarksville National Register District Council District 9]

ITEM IS 1104 TOILETS STREET, ALSO IN THE CLARKSVILLE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

UM, JUST TO BE A REMINDER TO THE COMMISSION, IF YOU ARE IN THE DIOCESE AND MAKING A MOTION, PLEASE ALSO INDICATE WITH YOUR HANDS.

UM, IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT HARD TO TELL WHO'S MAKING THE MOTION WITH, UH, WITH MASKS ON.

SO I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING TO SAY THE NAMES.

UM, YOU GOT IT, THAT I'M LOOKING, I'M LOOKING DOWN, LOOK TO THE RIGHT.

LOOK TO THE LEFT.

LOOK TO THE SCREEN.

THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR.

UM, ITEM C3 IS A PROPOSAL TO CONNECT A NEW CONSTRUCT, A NEW RESIDENTS WITH A CARPORT, A POOL, AND A ROOF DECK.

UH, THIS PROPOSED NEW BUILDING IS THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT WITH VERTICAL FIBER CEMENT SIDING CAPTURED THE METAL ROOF.

FENESTRATION INCLUDES SINGLE HUNG AND FIXED WINDOWS, AS WELL AS A HORIZONTAL LINKLATER RESTAURANT OR A ROOF DECK WITH HORIZONTAL METAL RAILINGS.

IT'S THE TOP OF THE HOUSE ACCESSIBLE BY A SPIRAL STAIRCASE AT THE SIDE, ELEVATION IT'S PARTIALLY ENCLOSED BY A TRANSPARENT WITH SCREEN.

THE FULL WIDTH PORCH IS AFFORDED BY BOX COLUMNS AND THE FRONT AND REAR GABLES THAT COMPRISE ITS COMPOUND ROOFLINE ARE ACCENTED BY TRIANGULAR KNEE BRACES.

UM, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES CONSTRUCTION OF A DECK AND POOL BEHIND THE MAIN HOUSE, AS WELL AS A RETAINING WALL AT THE REAR COMMITTEE FEEDBACK WAS TO CONSIDER A GLASS RAILING AT THE ROOF DECK, SHORTEN THE SIDE ELEVATION AND THE ROOF HEIGHT, REDUCE THE ROOF'S PITCH TO MATCH THE ORIGINAL HOUSE AND RECONSIDER THE CORNER WINDOW AND THE BOARD AND BATTEN SIDING AT UPPER FLOORS, AS WELL AS TO OMIT THE BRACKETS STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO COMMENT ON AND RELEASE PLANS.

OKAY.

UH, IS THERE ON THE APPLICANT OR OWNER HERE TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICATION? OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION? IS THERE ANYONE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE APPLICATION PLEASE COME DOWN.

HELLO.

MY NAME IS OLIVIA RUIZ AND I LIVE APPROXIMATELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPOSED, UH, SITE.

UM, MARY, I THINK MARY RAY, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF CD CC DC SENT YOU GUYS A LETTER SAYING HER HUSBAND WAS SICK AND COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY.

SO I WOULD VIEW, I W