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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:05]

6:06 PM.

AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL ROLL.

I'LL START WITH A VICE-CHAIR DEPALMA PRESENT BOARD MEMBER RINALDI HERE, BOARD MEMBER FAUST.

I AM PRESENT.

AND I WANTED TO SAY REALLY QUICKLY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY SON, JAMES EVERETT, BOWELS.

CAUSE HE IS FOR TODAY.

YAY.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

AND THAT'S SO GREAT.

YOU'RE HERE ON THIS BIRTHDAY.

THAT'S THAT'S COMMITMENT.

SO BOARD MEMBER HUG, MAN.

ISN'T GREAT.

THANK YOU.

BOARD MEMBER, BERNARD BOARD MEMBER TAYLOR, PRESIDENT AND BOARD MEMBER COTTON SEIBEL PRESENT.

RIGHT.

AND I BELIEVE BOARD MEMBER DECARLO WILL BE JOINING US A LITTLE BIT LATE.

SO, UM, OKAY.

SO THE FIRST ITEM

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION: GENERAL]

IS CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.

SO I'M ASSUMING VICE-CHAIR THAT YOU HAVE SOME, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

WE ONLY HAVE A ONE INDIVIDUAL FOR GENERAL ASSISTANCE COMMUNICATION, AND THAT IS KEVIN REYNA'S WITH THE AUSTIN ROWING CLUB STURDINESS.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

OKAY.

HI, KEVIN RAINEY IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE AUSTIN ROWING CLUB.

I FEEL LIKE I'M GOING TO CONCERT WITH THE FEEDBACK, BUT THERE YOU GO.

SO FIRST OF ALL, AS I TOLD KIMBERLY, IT'S GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY IN PERSON HAVING A DONE ANYTHING REMOTE FOR A WHILE.

I JUST WANTED TO GET A COUPLE UPDATES AND NOT WITHSTANDING THE IMPACT COVID-19 HAS HAD ON OUR NORMAL REGULAR PROGRAMMING IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO THOSE IN NEED.

WE DID HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENT LAST WEEK WITH THE REGIONAL VETERANS ASSOCIATION TO HOST A HEALTH AND WELLNESS FAIR AT THE BOATHOUSE ACROSS A BROAD RANGE OF PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES FOR VETS AND THEIR FAMILIES AS PART OF THEIR SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH INITIATIVE.

AND WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT WITH THE BA, UM, EARLIER THAN A MONTH, WE ACTUALLY LAUNCHED A NEW INITIATIVE FOR SPINAL CORD REHAB OR WORKING WITH OCCUPATIONAL THERAPISTS.

AND, UH, IT, IT WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED IN TERMS OF GETTING PEOPLE IN THAT TUFTS SITUATION OUTSIDE IN NATURE, OUT IN THE WATERS, UH, VERY SUCCESSFUL.

WE'RE LAUNCHING OUR 37TH ANNUAL REGATA OF THE HEAD OF THE COLORADO AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.

SO IT'S 37 YEARS.

IT'S PRETTY LONG ATHLETIC IT'S OFF THE FESTIVAL BEACH.

SO THAT'S JUST A QUICKIE FYI.

UM, AND ALSO I'M VERY PROUD THOUGH.

I'M A LITTLE PREMATURE KIMBERLY OF SAYING THAT FINAL RESULTS IN THE PARK CONCESSION REPORT, BUT THE BOATHOUSE CROSSED 2 MILLION IN GROSS REVENUE FOR THE FIRST TIME.

UH, AND THERE'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OVER THAT.

AND SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT FACT AND UM, WE THINK WE'LL BE THE SECOND EVER CONCESSION TO DO THAT.

SO WE'RE THAT WE HAVE GREAT STAFF, GREAT BUSINESSES.

THEY'RE GREAT INTERACTION WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND THEN, UH, AS I MENTIONED IN THE LAST TIME I SPOKE TO ALL OF YOU, WE'RE CELEBRATING OUR 40TH YEAR.

SO THAT'S A, AN AMAZING MILESTONE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT 40 YEARS.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTION ON CERTAINTY AS TO THE FUTURE OF THE BOATHOUSE, RELATIVE TO PROJECT CONNECT.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH KIMBERLY AND THE OTHER, UH, AGENCIES INVOLVED TO ENSURE WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC BENEFIT THAT WE HAVE FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UH, THERE'S NO MORE GENERAL CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THE NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE, UM, THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING THAT WE HAD ON SEPTEMBER 14TH.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES OR MODIFICATIONS TO THOSE MINUTES? AND IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL JUST BOARD TAYLOR AS AN SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND BOARD TAYLOR AND THE SECOND FROM BOARD OR SPOUSE.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ONE.

SO ONE ABSTENTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MAKE A QUICK CHANGE TO THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE THAT, UM, TOOK THE TIME TO COME ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE AT THIS TIME OF DAY TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH,

[B.4. Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding a recommendation to the Parks and Recreation Director supporting the naming of the ballfield at Oswald A.B. Cantu/Pan American Neighborhood Park in honor of Rosalio “Rabbit” Duran.]

THE BALL FIELD AT ALL SWELLED AB CAN TO PAN-AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AND THEY HAVE PUT FORTH A, UM, APPLICATION TO NAME IT AFTER IT ROZALIA RABBIT DURAN.

I WILL.

AND WE WILL GO AHEAD.

I KNOW THAT THAT WON'T TAKE THAT MUCH TIME AND WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THEM TAKING THE TIME TO COME AND SHARE THAT WITH US.

SO I DO THINK THAT WE, UM, WE'LL HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT.

AND I, UM, I THANK YOU FOR COMING.

I, I DO WANT TO SAY REALLY

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QUICKLY AND, UH, DIRECTOR MCNEELY CAN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION, BUT WE DO HAVE ANOTHER APPLICANT THAT IS INTERESTED IN, UM, HAVING THAT BLOFELD NAMED AFTER ANOTHER PERSON.

SO WE NEED TO BEAR THAT IN MIND SO WE CAN BE FAIR AND OUR DECISION.

SO, UM, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK BEFORE? DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH CITIZEN COMMUNICATION FOR THIS ITEM? YOU CAN PROCEED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THIS IS FOR AGENDA BEFORE THAT'S BEEN MOVED FORWARD.

UH, WHAT WE HAVE IS CITIZENS' COMMUNICATION LEADING TO WELL RELATED TO THAT AGENDA ITEM.

SO WE'RE ALL OUT OF A LITTLE RUSTY RIGHT NOW.

SO THE FIRST SPEAKER IS LISA MORA, JR.

I HAVE IT NUMBERED AS FAR AS THE PREFERENCE.

I HAVE IT NUMBERED ON HERE UNLESS THERE'S ANYBODY WANTS TO CHANGE AS FAR AS THE ORDER, BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE A SENATOR GONZALO, BARRY ANTOS GO FIRST.

MAY IT PLEASE? THE BOARD, UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS GONZALO BARRIENTOS.

I'M APPEARING IN FAVOR OF NAMING THE PAN-AM BALLPARK, THE RABBIT DURAN FIELD.

UH, BUT MAY I YIELD TO THE DURAN FAMILY AND THE COMMUNITY FIRST AND, UH, ALLOW ME TO CLOSE AND I WON'T FEEL THE BUSTER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SENATOR.

AND SO, UH, OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE ORDER THAT YOU ALL HAD, I HAD LISA MOORE, A JUNIOR, BUT IS THERE SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? ALL RIGHT, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UH, YES.

I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME.

AND, UH, JUST TO SAY, I'M A LIFETIME FRIEND OF RABBIT, UH, DURAN.

UH, I WORKED FOR ONE OF THE BEER COMPANIES AND, UH, FOR 40 YEARS I SERVED HIS ESTABLISHMENT.

AND THROUGHOUT THOSE YEARS RABBIT, IT'S NOT JUST TO HELP THE BALLPLAYERS AT THE SOFTBALL PARKS.

THERE HAD PAN-AM.

HE WAS ALSO VERY INVOLVED IN THE CHURCH COMMUNITIES, WHICH WAS CRYSTAL RAY.

AND WHILE THE LUPA, UH, CHURCHES, UH, WHILE THE LOOP, HE WOULD, UH, GET HIS BEER LICENSE, PURCHASE THE BEER HIMSELF, GET PEOPLE TO MAN AND SELL THE BEER, TURN AROUND AND DONATE ALL THE MONEY TO THE CHURCH TO HELP THE CHURCH, CRISTO REY.

HE WOULD ASK US BEER COMPANIES TO DONATE TURKEYS AND THE CHURCH WOULD GET THE FIXINGS FOR THE CHURCH.

BUT RABBIT WOULD GATHER YEAR AFTER YEAR HUNDREDS OF TURKEYS FOR NEEDY FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY.

ANYBODY THAT HAD A DEATH IN THE FAMILY, UH, MEDICAL, UH, EXPENSES, THEY COULDN'T COVER.

WE'RE ALWAYS WELCOME AT RABBITS TO COME HAVE A BENEFIT, SELL PLATES OF FOOD TO THE COMMUNITY AND RABBIT.

A LOT OF TIMES WOULD COOK ALL THE MEAT HIMSELF AND EVERY, YOU KNOW, THE FAMILIES WOULD PUT, PUT THE PLATES TOGETHER, SELL THE FOOD, AND HE NEVER EVER CHARGED ANYBODY TO USE THIS ESTABLISHMENT.

AND IT WAS THE PLACE TO GO TO IF YOU NEEDED ANY KIND OF ASSISTANCE RABBIT WAS THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

AND, UH, LIKE I SAID, AND IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT BALL TEAM IT WAS.

THEY WERE ALL WELCOME TO, TO USE, UH, THE END OF THE ESTABLISHMENT TO HAVE BENEFITS OR CELEBRATIONS AFTER, YOU KNOW, AFTER TOURNAMENTS AND STUFF.

AND HE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DOWN THERE AT THE FIELDS THEMSELVES TOO.

SO, UH, I REALLY THINK HE DESERVES TO HAVE HIS NAME ON THEM ON THAT BALL FIELD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT SPEAKER I HAVE IS ANGELA DURAN.

HE HAD FOLLOWED BY CATHERINE FARRELL, CATHERINE FARRELL.

YEAH, WE'RE SISTERS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO COME AND SPEAK TO YOU.

MY NAME IS CATHERINE FARRELL.

I'M ALSO LEO DAUGHTER.

UM, MY SISTER'S HERE WITH ME.

UM, OUR FATHER GREW UP, UM, ANY STARSTONE.

HE GREW UP RIGHT NEAR THE BALL FIELDS.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE WENT TO SCHOOL AT AND HE PLAYED THERE AND HE PLAYED SPORTS IS AS A YOUTH.

HE WAS, UM, HE WAS LITTLE, BUT HE WAS FAST AS A RABBIT.

SO THAT'S HOW HE GOT HIS NICKNAME RABBITS.

UM, HE JOINED THE NAVY AF NAVY AFTER GRADUATION, AND HE SERVED ON THE USS ORISKANY.

HE WAS THERE FOR THE KOREAN WAR.

HE WORKED HIS WHOLE LIFE.

IT CAME BACK TO EAST AUSTIN, HIS FAMILY OWNED A BUSINESS THERE.

HE WORKED THERE, UM, AND THEN OPENED HIS OWN BUSINESS.

ON THE EAST SIDE.

HE IS SERVED THE COMMUNITY, UM, SINCE HE WAS A LITTLE BOY

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AND HE PLAYED IN THOSE FIELDS, UM, HE, UM, DONATED HIS, ONCE.

HE OPENED HIS, UM, BUSINESS THERE AT THE CORNER OF V6 IN CHICAGO.

HE HAD FUNDRAISERS, HE DONATED HIS SPACE FOR POLITICAL LEADERS TO COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND HAVE THEIR, UM, AND YOU KNOW, DO, DO THEIR POLITICAL FUNDRAISING THERE.

HE COOKED AND HE SERVED THE COMMUNITY.

HE WOULD GO DOWN TO THE GROCERY STORE AND JUST BUY FOOD AND TAKE IT TO PEOPLE THAT HE KNEW WAS, WERE STRUGGLING.

SO HE WAS JUST ALWAYS, ALWAYS SERVING THE FAMILY, BUT HE LOVES SPORTS.

AND SO HE DONATED, I MEAN, HE SPONSORED SO MANY SOFTBALL TEAMS AND BASEBALL TEAMS AND LITTLE LEAGUE TEAMS. WE USED TO JOIN HIM TO GO PICK UP ALL THE JERSEYS.

SO, UM, BEN, AS YOU HEARD FROM LIZA MODA, UH, HE, HE DID A LOT OF WORK WITH THE CHURCHES, DONATED HIS TIME, DONATED MONEY, DONATED FOOD, UM, AND VISITED EVERYBODY.

UM, IF THEY WERE IN NEED OF HELP, HE HELD FUNDRAISERS FOR THEM.

THEN HE WOULD GO SEE THEIR LOVED ONES IN THE HOSPITAL.

AND THEN IF YOU KNOW, APPLICABLE, I MEAN, HE MUST HAVE GONE TO HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF FUNERALS.

SO I THINK HE TOUCHED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, AS YOU WILL SEE BY ALL OF THE, UM, COMMUNITY SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM, UM, SIGNATURES AND PETITIONS.

UM, AND I JUST THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL WAY TO HONOR HIM, BUT I WOULD LIKE MY SISTER TO KIND OF CLOSE UP FOR US IF THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, ANGELA DURAN.

HI, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AS WELL.

YEAH, JUST TO PICK UP WHERE MY SISTER LEFT OFF RABBIT LEFT US LAST YEAR.

UM, IN AUGUST IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT TIME AND IT HIT NOT JUST OUR FAMILY, BUT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY, UM, REALLY HARD.

AND IN MAY HIS FRIENDS RECOMMENDED THIS TO US.

IT WASN'T OUR IDEA.

UM, BUT OF COURSE WE LOVED IT.

WE WERE DOING A MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR HIM AT THE, UM, BUSINESS THAT ON THE PROPERTY THAT HE OWNED FOR SO MANY YEARS, WELL, WE STILL OWN THE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT BUSINESS NOW.

UM, AND SO OF COURSE WE WERE SUPER EXCITED AND SINCE THEN WE HAVE BEEN GATHERING SUPPORT OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

UH, WE'VE HAD PETITIONS IN BUSINESSES AND, UM, WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, AT LEAST ONE THAT WE KNOW OF, FOR SURE, AS WELL AS DINA CANTU, WHO IS ON THE ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE PARK ITSELF.

UM, AND THE DAUGHTER OF US WALDO AB CANTU WHO THE RECREATION CENTER IS NAMED AFTER.

AND, UM, ALSO MR. AL DUARTE, WHO IS THE FORMER MUSIC COMMISSIONER OF DISTRICT THREE IS HERE WITH US TODAY.

AND, UM, OF COURSE YOU ALREADY HEARD FROM SENATOR BARIANN TEST.

YOU'LL HEAR FROM HIM AGAIN AS WELL.

SO JUST, UH, JUST A FEW OF THOSE, BUT, UM, WE REALLY THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL WAY TO HONOR HIM.

WE MISS HIM AND, AND, UH, IT WILL BE JUST A WONDERFUL PLACE FOR US TO GATHER AND HONOR HIS MEMORY AND EAST AUSTIN WAS JUST HIS HOME.

IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO HIM AND WE LISTEN, ANYTIME WE GO ANYWHERE, WE ARE REGALED WITH STORIES OF PEOPLE THAT RABBIT TOUCHED AND MAYBE IT WAS JUST ATTENDING THEIR FUNERAL BECAUSE HE NEVER MISSED A FUNERAL.

IF HE EVEN MET YOU ONCE, HE WOULD PROBABLY GO TO YOUR FUNERAL.

HE, UM, CONNECTED PEOPLE.

HE WAS A MAN OF RIGHT ACTION.

ANYTIME HE HEARD THAT THERE WAS A NEED, HE DIDN'T JUST SAY, HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

HE GOT ON HIS PHONE AND HE CALLED PEOPLE AND HE SAID, HEY, THERE'S A NEED HERE.

CAN YOU HELP FILL IT? AND EVERYONE WOULD RALLY TO WHATEVER THAT PAUSE WAS.

UM, HE DID THIS FOR HIS WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE.

AND, UH, WE, WE THINK HE'S SUPER DESERVING ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT HE WAS VERY, HAD A GREAT LOVE OF SPORTS AND, UM, SUPPORTED ALL OF THE SPORTS TEAMS THAT HE DID OVER THE YEARS.

HE ALSO WENT TO THE GAMES.

AND IF YOU HAD A CHILD THAT PLAYED SPORTS AND THEY NEEDED SOME KIND OF BELT, HE WOULD NOT ONLY PROVIDE THE SUPPORT YOU WERE ASKING FOR.

HE WOULD ALSO SHOW UP TO WATCH HIM PLAY.

SO I COULD GO ON FOR A LONG TIME, BUT I WON'T HOLD YOU UP ANY LONGER.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR RIGHT SENATOR BARRY AT THIS

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MAY IT PLEASE.

THE BOARD, AS I SAID EARLIER, UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IN ABOUT MARCH OR APRIL OF THIS YEAR, I WAS APPROACHED BY, UH, UH, SOME COMMUNITY ADVOCATES, FRIENDS, AND BY THE DURAN FAMILY ASKING HOW TO GET, UH, A BALL FIELD NAME, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR REVENUE RUN.

UM, SO I, UH, DEVELOPED THE PROCESS FOR THEM.

AND THIS IS WHAT YOU DO.

YOU COME IN AND YOU ASK THE PEOPLE, THIS BOARD AND THE CITY GOVERNMENT TO HELP YOU DO THAT.

SO, VERY BRIEFLY AS YOU'VE HEARD, UH, ROSA LEO RABBIT DURAN AND RABBITS IS, UH, I THINK A CULTURAL AND COMMUNITY TREASURE RABBIT PASSED AWAY THIS LAST YEAR.

HE WAS 87 YEARS OLD.

HIS BUSINESS HAD OPERATED SOME 40 YEARS AND THE PLACE I CAN'T EXACTLY DESCRIBE IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A HISPANIC, CHICANO CHEERS, WHERE EVERYBODY KNOWS YOUR NAME, RABBITS AROUND.

IT WAS A PILLAR OF THE COMMUNITY.

HE HELD HUNDREDS OF FUNDRAISERS FOR PEOPLE, ALL CLUBS THAT YOU'VE HEARD TEAMS TURKEYS FOR THANKSGIVING, FOR THE POOR NEEDY PEOPLE IN MEDICAL NEED.

UM, THOSE WITH SERIOUS ILLNESSES.

AND, UH, EVEN ONE TIME THERE WAS A FELLOW WHO HAD LOST AN EYE AND HAD A FUNDRAISER TO GET HIM A GLASS OF WINE.

UH, NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW THAT.

SO IT WAS A POLITICAL HUB, UM, FOR CANDIDATES, BARBECUE TACOS, OTHER PLATES, AND, UH, RAISING MONEY.

FOR THOSE OF US WHO DID NOT HAVE MONEY, BIG MONEY FROM THE LOBBIES TO, TO RUN FOR OFFICE UPSTAIRS.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, UH, HAD BEEN A CAMPAIGN HEADQUARTERS FOR NUMEROUS PEOPLE.

I FOR ONE HAD, UH, UPSTAIRS, THIS WAS WAY BACK, UH, MAYBE BEFORE SOME PEOPLE WERE BORN, BUT, UH, BOB PERKINS, A JUDGE, UH, JOHN RAVINO, RICHARD MOYA, I WILL NEVER FORGET WHAT'S IN FRONT OF THAT BUILDING.

THERE IS A MURAL SLICE OF CHAVEZ AND IT SAYS, WE DO NOT NEED PERFECT POLITICS.

WE NEED PERFECT PARTICIPATION.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY.

UH, ROBERT SUDAN, A NAVY BET, A, A COMMUNITY TREASURE HAS THE SUPPORT OF THE, THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER FROM THAT DISTRICT, UH, FIELD RENTERIA, THE AB CANOE FAMILY, A WENT OVER WITH OVER A THOUSAND NAMES.

SO THAT WOULD SUFFICE.

UM, WE WILL NOT FORGET RABBIT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE DECISION IS OR RABBIT RUN OR THE FAMILY AND WHAT THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS FAMILY AND TO THIS COMMUNITY AND TO OUR STATE AND OUR COUNTRY THANKING THEM.

IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER.

YEAH.

I MEAN, SENATOR, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I DO, I REMEMBER IT'S NOT A QUESTION, BUT IT'S MORE OF A MEMORY AND IT'S JUST THE FACT OF YOU AND ME.

AND I THINK IT WAS IF ALASKA AS, AND DEFINITELY BOB PERKINS, JUDGE PERKINS AND RABBIT, AND MAYBE EVEN RICHARD MOYA, UH, BEING OUTSIDE AND YOU, YOU SHARING YOU ALL SHARING THE HISTORY OF RABBITS AND WHAT IT MEANT TO BUILD THAT POLITICAL VOICE FOR LATINOS IN AUSTIN.

AND THAT IF NOT FOR THIS LOCATION, IF NOT FOR THAT PARTICIPATION, THEN A LOT OF THE VOICES THAT WE HAVE RELIED ON FOR, TO MAKE AUSTIN MORE INCLUSIVE TO, TO BRING OUR VOICE FORWARD, NOT WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN PLACE AT LEAST UNDER THE TIMELINE THAT IT DID.

SO I THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

THANK YOU TO THE DURAN FAMILY FOR BEING HERE.

UM, THANK YOU BOARD MEMBERS AND THANK YOU AND, UH, BE PROUD OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

WE CAN NOT PARTICIPATE AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE TO IN THIS CITY BECAUSE OF SO MANY THINGS LIKE COVID, BUT BLESS YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND I JUST WANT TO REITERATE HOW, HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE THAT YOU GUYS TOOK THE TIME TO COME DOWN HERE AND SHARE THE STORIES ABOUT YOUR FATHER AND ABOUT RABBIT.

AND HE SOUNDS LIKE A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL PERSON AND, AND CHAIR, WE STILL HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKERS OF THE AGENDA ITEM.

I THINK THAT WAS THE BLOCK ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARTICULAR GROUP.

OKAY.

AND SO, UM, I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE NEXT SPEAKER, UH, IS DEREK CASTILLO.

THANK YOU.

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YES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALSO, THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR CITY.

I'VE BEEN A BENEFICIARY OF A LOT OF PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS. UH, I'M A BORN AND RAISED AUSTINITE AS IS MY FATHER WHO I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR, FOR THE RENAMING OF THE SOFTBALL FIELD IN HIS HONOR, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE DURAN FAMILY.

MR. ROBERT DEAD-ON IS DESERVING AS WELL.

THESE ARE TWO OUTSTANDING GENTLEMEN IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT REALLY IS.

UM, YOU CAN'T GO WRONG WITH EITHER.

I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT I WILL ADVOCATE FOR MY FATHER BECAUSE I DO THINK, UM, HE IS MORE, HE IS MORE FITTING AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY BRIEFLY, BECAUSE I DO THINK WE, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME OF HIS SUPPORTERS TO SPEAK, HOPEFULLY AT ANOTHER MEETING.

UH, AT LEAST THAT'S MY HOPE.

UM, BUT LIKE, LIKE RABBIT, MY DAD GREW UP IN EAST.

AUSTIN WENT TO ISABELLA ELEMENTARY RIGHT NEXT TO THE PAN-AMERICAN CENTER.

ONE OF 11 KIDS.

HE LITERALLY GREW UP AT PAN-AM.

THAT WAS HIS MOM AND DAD BECAUSE HE WAS BUSY PLAYING SPORTS THERE AT THE FACILITY.

UH, WHEN HE GOT OLDER, HE VOLUNTEERED AS A COACH THERE.

UM, AFTER HE WAS IN COLLEGE AT UT, HE EVEN W UH, WORKED AT THE REC CENTER.

UM, AND THEN HE WENT ON, UH, AFTER COLLEGE AND EARNING HIS GRADUATE, HIS, HIS DEGREE TO, UM, WORK, UH, OR BE A SERVE ON THE PAN-AM BOARD.

IN FACT, HE SERVED FOR IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, NEARLY A DECADE WITH SEVERAL OF THOSE YEARS AS PRESIDENT OF THE PAN-AM BOARD.

SO IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND, MY DAD'S CLEATS WERE ON THE GROUND, SO TO SPEAK AT, AT PAN-AM.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, HE HELPED BUILD THE SOFTBALL, UM, COMMUNITY THERE, UH, ANY STAUNTON IN PARTICULAR PAN-AM THAT WAS THE HOME FIELD OF THE JOKERS AND ASKING THESE FOLKS, THEY KNOW THE JOKERS AND THE JOKERS WOULD END UP AT RABBITS, USUALLY AFTER A GAME, TAKING THE KIDS WITH THEM.

AND I ENJOYED THAT AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU TO RABBIT FOR LETTING US PLAY POOL AS FIVE YEARS OLD, BUT WE DID IT.

WE PROBABLY SCUFFED UP THE FELT, BUT HE STILL LET US DO IT.

UM, BUT BACK TO MY FATHER'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO EAST AUSTIN, HE HELPED THE JOKERS THERE, UH, SOLIDIFIED THE SOFTBALL COMMUNITY, BROUGHT IN TONS OF TOURNAMENTS.

UM, IN THE, IN THE SUMMERTIME, YOU WOULD SEE TONS OF FAMILIES OUT, OUT IN THE, IN THE YARD OR OUT IN THE, UH, IN THE OUTFIELD WATCHING THE GAMES.

IT WAS A TRUE COMMUNITY EFFORT.

AND MY DAD LED, UH, LED THAT EFFORT FOR MANY YEARS.

IN ADDITION, HE WAS A, UH, A LONG TIME TEACHER AND COACH ANY STOCKTON AT JOHNSTON HIGH SCHOOL.

SO MANY OF HIS KIDS THAT HE TAUGHT WOULD COME BACK AND PLAY ON THAT SOFTBALL FIELD.

UM, I COULD GO ON AND ON, BUT I JUST WANT TO USE THIS TIME TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DO PLAN TO, TO, WE HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED OUR APPLICATION FOR THE RENAMING, UM, AND WE WILL LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY LIKE THE DURAN FAMILY HAS TO, UM, TO LET YOU HEAR FROM OUR SUPPORTERS AS WELL.

UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND, UM, I APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE.

AND OUR LAST SPEAKER ON THIS AGENDA ITEM IS SEMI BRONCO.

YOUR TIME'S UP.

YEAH.

THAT QUICK.

YOU MEAN BOARD MEMBERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

MY NAME IS SAN JUAN FRANCO, PROUD CHICANO AND PROUD AUSTIN RESIDENT.

UM, JUST WANT TO SAY THAT AS WE ALL KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, EAST AUSTIN HAS BEEN THE CENTER OF GRAVITY FOR LATINOS, FOR LATINOS IN AUSTIN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, UM, HOPEFULLY WILL CONTINUE TO BE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AS WELL, BUT CHANGE IS INEVITABLE.

AND WHILE CHANGE IS INEVITABLE, UM, NOT HONORING OUR PAST OUR HISTORY IS UNACCEPTABLE.

SO I'M COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF RENAMING, UM, THE BALL FIELD AFTER MR. GOODEN, AS YOU'VE HEARD, MR. DON WAS AN AMAZING MAN PILLAR OF THE COMMUNITY, UM, PROUD LATINO HIMSELF.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WHILE NOT ALL LEADERS ARE NECESSARILY ELECTED OFFICIALS OR EVER GET A CHANCE TO SERVE IN THE DIOCESE THEY'RE LEADERS, JUST THE SAME OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE RESPECT AND HONOR THAT HERITAGE AND HISTORY THAT THEY HAVE DONE FOR THAT COMMUNITY.

UM, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK MR. O'DONNELL WAS JUST AN AMAZING, AMAZING MAN, UM, WHO DID A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY LEADER HIMSELF AND ESPECIALLY IN WHAT IS THIS RIGHT NOW, HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.

IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE HONOR OUR HISPANIC COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND RENAME THIS BALL FIELD AFTER MISS OODA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

AND FOR THE RECORD, I'LL NEVER GET HERE LATE AGAIN, CAUSE I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO WANT TO SPEAK AFTER A STATE SENATOR.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, AND JUST REAL QUICK, JUST OUT OF RESPECT FOR A RABBIT, COULD I JUST GET A SHOW OF HANDS OF EVERYBODY WHO THE AUDIENCE WHO JUST, WHO SUPPORTS RABBITS ARE A SMART RABBIT AND JUST KIND OF JUST KIND OF VISUALLY SHOW THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO, I GUESS, BRINGING THE SNAKE BACK NEXT MONTH.

SO DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT? I THINK THAT WELL, BOARD MEMBERS, I HAVE A VERY QUICK PRESENTATION AND I WANTED TO PROVIDE, UM, UH,

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EXPLANATION OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NAMING A FEATURE AND NAMING A PARK, RIGHT? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU ALL TOOK TIME TO CONSIDER, UM, UH, YOU GOT TO WORK IN GROUP AND YOU WERE CONSIDERING THE NAMING PROCESS, BUT HERE HERE'S THE DIFFERENCE.

IF, IF YOU COULD BRING UP THE PRESENTATION AND I'LL EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE.

SO IN ORDINANCE OR IN CODE, IT TALKS ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NAMING A PARK OR FACILITY VERSUS NAMING A FEATURE.

AND SO A PARK OR FACILITY REQUIRES COUNCIL ACTION.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, NAMING A FEATURE IS AT THE, UM, IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION, DIRECTOR'S ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONSIBILITY.

HOWEVER, CUSTOMARILY I HAVE BROUGHT ALL PARK NAMING, I'M SORRY, PARK FEATURE NAMINGS TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION SO THAT YOU ALL COULD, WE COULD HAVE A COMMUNITY PROCESS AND THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO ME.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HEARING THIS TODAY.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT I DID RECEIVE A MR. DURAND'S APPLICATION OR THE FAMILY.

I RECEIVED THE APPLICATION FROM THE FAMILY FOR MR. DURAN, UM, ON, UH, AUGUST 20TH.

AND, UM, I WAS ABLE TO, UH, HAVE A FULL TIME, A FULL OPPORTUNITY TO VET THE APPLICATION, TO REVIEW, TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE FAMILY, TO GET CLARIFICATION'S AND, AND TENTS I PRESENT CREATED THIS PRESENTATION.

HOWEVER, UM, I ALSO DID RECEIVE, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I DID RECEIVE, UM, MR. CASTILLO'S APPLICATION, BUT I RECEIVED AN ONSET TIMBER 20TH.

I WAS NOT BACK IN THE OFFICE UNTIL LATER THAT WEEK, AND I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE FULL OPPORTUNITY TO VET THE APPLICATION.

AND I HAD MADE THE COMMITMENT TO THE DURAN FAMILY THAT I WOULD BRING THIS FORWARD.

UM, AND I WANTED TO HONOR THAT COMMITMENT, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO ALSO SHARE WITH YOU THINGS ABOUT MR. CASTILLO.

BUT THE REASON WHY YOU'RE HEARING ONE TODAY IS BECAUSE THAT'S ALL I HAVE THE CAPACITY TO COMPLETE IN THIS TIMEFRAME.

SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU, UH, UH, UNDERSTANDING THE NAME OF THE PARK IS ACTUALLY THE PAN-AM NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, BUT IT IS OFTEN CALLED THE AB CHANTEUSE PAN-AM AMERICAN PARK, BUT THAT'S ACTUALLY THE NAME OF THE RECREATION CENTER.

SO PEOPLE JUST CALL IT THE NAME THAT THEY'RE MOST COMFORTABLE WITH.

AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION FOR YOU.

SO WITHIN THAT PARK IS THE AB CANTU PAN-AMERICAN RECREATION CENTER.

UH, ALSO IT IS, UM, WELL, LET ME JUST TELL YOU IT'S ON 3 0 7 CHECON STREET, NEXT SLIDE.

IT IS 5.25 ACRES, AND IT'S IN DISTRICT THREE.

NEXT SLIDE.

IT IS THE HOME.

IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 19 55, 19 56.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE RECORDS THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAS, UM, THERE IS A THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT TIMEFRAMES, BUT WE KNOW THAT IT WAS ESTABLISHED DURING THOSE TWO YEARS.

IT'S THE HOME OF THE AB CAMP, THE US WILD AB CANTU PAN-AM RECREATION CENTER.

AND IT ALSO INCLUDES A PLAYGROUND, A COMMUNITY GARDEN THERE'S TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS, I BELIEVE.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE BALL FIELD, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

IT IS ALSO THE HOME OF THE HILLSIDE THEATER WHERE THERE'S CONCERT SERIES, THERE'S POLITICAL RALLIES AT THAT PARTICULAR SPACE.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME SMALLER EVENTS.

IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD ALL OF THIS ABOUT MR. DURAN, AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM ALL OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS, BUT THESE WERE THE KINDS OF CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAD WITH THE FAMILY.

AND I TOOK FROM THE, FROM THE APPLICATION.

AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO S TO READ THEM TO YOU, BUT IT'S JUST THE ECHOING, UM, THE DIFFERENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT MR. DURAN MADE TO THE COMMUNITY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, UM, AGAIN, YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HEARD THIS, BUT JUST TO REITERATE THAT THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT, I REVIEWED THAT APPLICATION.

I HAVE 932 INDIVIDUALS THAT I HAVE CAN LEGIBLY SEE THE, UM, AND I CAN LEGIBLY UNDERSTAND WHOSE NAME IT IS, RIGHT? BUT THERE ARE OVER A THOUSAND SIGNATURES.

I JUST WASN'T ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT ACTUAL NAME WAS.

SO I, I DON'T WANT TO IN ANY WAY, UM, SAY THAT THE SENATOR IS INCORRECT, HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

BUT NINETY THREE, NINE HUNDRED AND THIRTY TWO OF THEM, I WAS ABLE TO DISCERN WHO THEY WERE.

UM, THE CANTU FAMILY SUBMITTED A LETTER OF SUPPORT, OBVIOUSLY, MR. OR SENATOR BARRIENTOS IS HERE AND COUNCIL MEMBER RENTERIA, HIS OFFICE DID EXPRESS SUPPORT AND COUNCIL MEMBER RENTER.

HIS OFFICE ALSO SAID THAT HE, HE, UM, HE IS WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO WHATEVER THAT, WHATEVER THAT MEANS, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I KNOW HE, HE BELIEVES THAT THERE'S PROBABLY MORE THAN ONE INDIVIDUAL.

WHO'S CERTAINLY WORTHY OF NAMING, BUT, UM, HE DID EXPRESS SUPPORT HERE TODAY.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I WOULD BE ASKING THE BOARD TO CONSIDER, AND YOU CAN CONSIDER, YOU CAN MAKE WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION OR WHATEVER EMOTION IT IS THAT YOU WANT, KNOWING THAT WE ALSO HAVE A SECOND APPLICATION, BUT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD THE RECOMMENDATION WAS DO YOU TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO ME, THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR, TO SUPPORT THE NAMING OF THE BALL FIELDS AT THE PAN-AM,

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UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IN HONOR OF ROSARIO RABBIT DURAN, THAT IS WHAT'S ON THE MO THAT NOT A MOTION.

THAT'S A SUGGESTION, BUT YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS CAN DO MAKE WHATEVER MOTION YOU BELIEVE IS APPROPRIATE.

THANK YOU DIRECTOR.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HER ABOUT ANY OF THAT? I DIDN'T CATCH THE NAME OF THE, THE OTHER CANDIDATE FOR NAMING, UM, TONY AND TC AND QUOTES CASINOS, TONY TC CASTILLO.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND YOU, YOU GOT TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIM FROM HIS FAMILY.

OKAY.

WELL, I, UM, THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT PRESENTATION.

WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL.

I, IN ALL FAIRNESS, I, AND I KNOW WE W THAT'S CERTAINLY HOW I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD TRY TO ADDRESS THINGS WE SHOULD.

IF THERE ARE TWO CANDIDATES WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM THE OTHER ONE IS THE OTHER APPLICANT AS WELL, UNLESS SOMEBODY DISAGREES WITH ME AND WANTS TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO, TO VOTE ON THIS RIGHT AWAY.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT.

YEAH.

I WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION INTO MOVE BY OUT OF RISK.

I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT TO THE, UH, FAMILY IS, IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO LET THE PROCESS PLAY OUT.

AND, UM, AND SO I'LL, I'M GONNA RESPECT, RESPECT THAT.

AND, UH, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, SO, BUT THAT'S WHERE I WOULD BE BOARD MEMBER FAUST HAS THE QUESTION.

YEAH.

UM, IT'S LESS OF A QUESTION, MORE OF A COMMENT.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HEAR THE, THE C THE APPLICATION FROM THE CASTILLO FAMILY.

I'M PERSONALLY MORE FAMILIAR WITH RABBIT DURAN, AND, UM, I'M REALLY PLEASED TO SEE THAT THEY CAME FORWARD.

AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO BOTH FAMILIES, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TO US.

AND I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT IN AUSTIN WITH ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT WE ALL SEE, THAT WE TAKE THE TIME TO DO THESE NAMINGS AND TO RESPECT OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE SO MUCH TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY WHAT IT IS.

AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY THE PEOPLE THAT DONATE A BUNCH OF MONEY AND BUILD THINGS, BUT THEY BUILD COMMUNITY.

AND SO I KNOW THIS TOOK A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT, AND SO THANK YOU FOR COMING AND, UM, AND SPEAKING AND FOR DOING THE PETITION.

AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO HONOR, UM, A LOT OF COMMUNITY LEADERS.

AND SO WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THESE ARE VERY SPECIAL AND IMPORTANT.

ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

SO DO I NEED TO MOVE TO, UM, TO LIVE? YOU CAN, YOU CAN SAY THAT, WELL, YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT YOU COULD MOVE TO, UM, TO MAKE, TO MAKE NO RECOMMENDATION TO THE, TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR AND REQUEST THAT THE SECOND APPLICATION, UM, BE A PRESENTATION ON THE SECOND APPLICATION AT THE NEXT, THE EARLIEST MEETINGS OR THE NEXT STEP AND THE OCTOBER MEETING.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO I WILL MOVE TO DO THAT.

YOU, OR MAYBE WE'LL HAVE, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT THREE WHERE IT'S AT, AT STANCE AT THAT POINT TO ALSO VOTED ON IN THE OCTOBER MEETING.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I'LL, I'M IN FAVOR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK, THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME.

AND IT WAS JUST AN HONOR TO HEAR FROM YOU AND HEAR ABOUT RABBITS.

SO, AND WE WILL, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL PLAN TO ADDRESS THIS IN OCTOBER, SO HOPEFULLY COULD COME BACK AND, OR AT LEAST LISTEN TO US TO HEAR WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO.

SO THANKS AGAIN SO MUCH.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR BOTH, BOTH FAMILIES.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

MOVING ON TO, UM, TO NEW BUSINESS, WE'RE DONE, RIGHT.

OKAY.

THIS IS ROUND THREE WITH, UM, PRESENTATION

[B.1. Presentation, discussion and possible action regarding a recommendation to the Planning Commission related to a Conditional Use Permit for the sale of wine and beer at the Zilker Cafe.]

DISCUSSING AN IMPOSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION RELATED TO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF WINE AND BEER AT THIS ZILKER CAFE.

I THINK EVERYBODY IS PROBABLY FAIRLY AWARE THAT I'M A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED WITH THE, THIS PROCESS AND HOW IT'S BEEN DEALT WITH, BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE.

I APPRECIATE THE BOARD'S TIME WITH THIS ISSUE.

I KNOW WE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS AND WE LIVE VERY FULL LIVES, AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE COME OUT ONCE AGAIN TO, UM, ENGAGE IN CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS.

SO IF YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO I APPRECIATE

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IT.

AND LET'S REMEMBER TO BE RESPECTFUL TO DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW, BECAUSE I'VE HAD SOME VERY AGGRESSIVE, UH, EMAILS.

SO WITH THAT SAID, WE SPEAKERS HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THE FIRST SPEAKER IS ERIC, UH, ROME.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THANKS.

MY NAME'S ERIC.

I'M A AUSTIN RESIDENT, NOT PART OF A, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT HAS WEIGHED IN ON THIS.

I'M STRONGLY AGAINST ALLOWING, UH, ALCOHOL SALES NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF, UH, BARTON SPRINGS POOL.

I THINK IT'S A VERY BAD IDEA.

AND HENCE AGAINST THE PROVISIONAL ZONING CHANGE TO ALLOW THIS, I THINK THE FIRST AND FOREMOST ISSUE IS SAFETY.

UH, ALCOHOL USE DEFINITELY DECREASES, UH, SAFETY OF, UH, SWIMMERS, THE BARTON SPRINGS BY VIRTUE OF THE TYPE OF POOL THAT IT IS.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE SWAM THERE, IT'S LARGE EXPANSE, BIG THING TO, UH, UH, FOR THE LIFEGUARDS, UH, TO, UH, GUARD.

AND, UH, THEY DO A VERY GOOD JOB.

IT'S CHALLENGING HAVING ALCOHOL USE IN THIS SETTING WOULD, UH, WOULD INCREASE THE PROBLEM ALREADY.

BARTON SPRINGS HAS MORE, UH, EPISODES OF SWIMMERS IN DISTRESS, UH, THAN ANY OF THE OTHER CITY POOLS.

AND, UH, SOME OF IT'S THE SIZE, BUT IT'S ALSO BY VIRTUE OF THE NATURE OF THE POOL.

UH, I THINK THERE'LL ALSO BE, UH, A SPILLOVER EFFECT FROM ALLOWING THE LEGAL USE OF ALCOHOL, RIGHT BY THE ENTRANCE OF BARTON STRINGS POOL.

I MEAN, YES, ALCOHOL USE WITHIN THE PARK WILL STILL STAY, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL RIGHT, THE SIGN SAYS DON'T BRING IN ALCOHOL, BUT I THINK THERE'S A PERCEPTION DIFFERENCE, PARTICULARLY AROUND, YOU KNOW, A YOUNGER CROWD OF THE TWENTIES AND 30 YEAR OLDS.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SELLING ALCOHOL HERE, IT'S FINE TO SELL WELL, THIS DOESN'T REALLY SEEM LIKE, YOU KNOW, A PLACE THAT, THAT ALCOHOL USE ISN'T APPROPRIATE.

AND I THINK THERE'S A STRONG POSSIBILITY THAT MORE POOL PATRONS WILL DECIDE TO BRING THEIR OWN ALCOHOL.

DESPITE WHAT THE ENTRANCE SIGN SAYS.

UH, I THINK ALLOWING ALCOHOL SALES AT ZILKER PARK, EXCUSE ME, PARK, UH, WILL BE, UH, A STEP TOWARDS MAKING BARTON SPRINGS BE PERCEIVED AS A DRINKING DESTINATION.

THERE'S BEEN A DIFFERENT POINT.

THERE'S BEEN AN ANALOGY.

WELL, THE ALTO CAL CAFE, UH, THE WALLER BOATHOUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ALCOHOL SALES THERE, YOU KNOW, WILD, ISN'T THIS A WORKOUT? WELL, I JUST HAPPENED TO BE TALKING TO A FORMER BOARD MEMBER OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT'S RUN THAT, UH, THAT BOAT HAS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND, AND THEY WERE SAYING THAT ANALOGY DIDN'T SEEM APT AT ALL TO HER.

AND THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE ALCOHOL USE THERE AT THE BOATHOUSE OCCURS AFTER THEY'D BEEN ROWING, YOU KNOW, THEY GO UP, YOU KNOW, UH, WHOEVER GOES UP, MAY HAVE A DRINK OR TWO, BUT IT IS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU DO BEFORE YOU GET OUT IN THE WATER BEING LOADED BEFORE YOU GO OUT AND ROW IS NOT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, AN APPEALING ACTIVITY.

UH, YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, SWIMMING AT BARTON SPRINGS.

I MEAN, NO, ONE'S GOING TO DRINK A WHOLE LOT AND THEN GO OUT AND SWIM LAPS.

THAT'S TRUE, BUT BURTON SPRINGS, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SETTING.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE GO AND ENJOY THE LOUNGING IN A BEAUTIFUL SETTING.

THAT'S THE PERFECT SETTING FOR DRINKING ALCOHOL.

AND SO I THINK IT'S THE, UH, THE ANALOGY, UH, THE ALTA CAFE DOESN'T SEEM APPROPRIATE TO ME, OR IT DOESN'T SEEM VALID.

THEN FINALLY DENSITY APPROPRIATELY BARTON SPRINGS POOL ATTRACTS MANY, MANY PEOPLE THERE BECAUSE BY VIRTUE OF THE GREAT NATURAL, EXCUSE ME, GREAT NATURAL BEAUTY OF THE PLACE, THE PARKING IS RELATIVELY LIMITED.

UH, AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THE AREA'S QUITE CROWDED.

DO WE REALLY WANT TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING THAT INCREASES THE DENSITY OF THIS ALREADY? UH, UH, THIS AREA IT'S ALREADY QUITE DENSE WITH PEOPLE, NOT THAT DENSITY ITSELF IS BAD, BUT DENSITY WHERE, UH, PARKING IS OVERLOADED, WHERE ALREADY, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE WEEKENDS, THERE'S LONG LINES TO GET INTO, UH, WEEKENDS IN THE SUMMER LONG LINES

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TO GET INTO THE POOL.

I THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA ON MULTIPLE REASONS, BUT I'LL GO BACK AGAIN.

I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, SAFETY TALK TO LIFEGUARDS THERE.

THAT POOL IS HARDER TO HARDER TO, UH, TO, UH, UH, LIFEGUARD.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF IT, BUT HAVING PEOPLE, EH, ANYTHING THAT WILL INCREASE ALCOHOL USE THERE IS GOING TO DECREASE HER SAVING SAFETY, UH, OF THE INDIVIDUALS USING THAT MAY LEAD TO TRAGEDY.

SO THAT'S MY VIEWPOINT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MEGAN MASON BOX THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU.

I'M MEGAN MEISENBACH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE TO AUSTIN BY BEING HERE TONIGHT AND ARE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THIS AFTERNOON, BARTON SPRINGS VISITORS WERE LAUGHING.

IT WAS SO WONDERFUL.

THERE'S SO MANY WONDERFUL THINGS TO LOVE.

DO WE REALLY NEED SOMETHING MORE TO MAKE IT WORTHWHILE? NOT FOR ME AND NOT FOR MANY PEOPLE.

AND SPEAKING OF ALL THE PEOPLE, IF THE CUP IS APPROVED, THERE IS A LARGE AREA, UM, THAT HAS A LOT PEOPLE IN IT.

PEOPLE GETTING TICKETS TO GO IN, WAITING IN LINE TO GO IN, UM, MEETING PEOPLE, RUNNERS ARE GOING THROUGH THERE.

AND WHEN THE TRAIN IS OPEN, PEOPLE GOING TO THE TRAIN WILL GO THROUGH THERE.

UM, AND THEN THERE USED TO BE PICNIC TABLES THAT WERE FREE AS FAR AS I KNOW TO EVERYONE.

WELL, IF IT'S FENCED OFF, THEN THAT WON'T BE FREE TO EVERYONE.

AND THERE'S ALSO THE FENCE.

THE WAY I CAN SEE IT, THERE'S A VIEW OF THE POOL FROM THAT AREA.

AND THAT WILL BE EXCLUDING IT FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE, WHO AREN'T PATRONS, WHO WILL BE THE PATRONS.

WILL THEY BE THE PEOPLE WHO SCRIMP A LITTLE BIT TO PAY THE POOL ENTRANCE AND THE PARKING, AND NOW THEY HAVE TO PAY EXTRA MONEY TO SIT IN THE PICNIC AREA.

THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A FAIR THING RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S A WONDERFUL VARIETY OF PEOPLE, OF ALL DIFFERENT PERSUASIONS IN THIS AREA THAT IS GOING TO BE CUT IN HALF BY THE CUP.

UM, AS FAR AS I COULD RESEARCH THE POOL HAS BEEN A VERY, VERY SAFE PLACE TO BE.

AND I JUST THINK THAT, UH, ASKING THE YOUNG LIFE GUARDS TO JUDGE SOBRIETY IS MAYBE NOT A GOOD THING TO DO SO I HOPE YOU'LL VOTE NO ON THE CUP ONCE AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS HEIDI ARMSTRONG.

HEIDI ARE THERE FIRST AND FOREMOST.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE.

YOU HAVE A REALLY DIFFICULT AND THANKLESS JOB, AND YOU'RE ALL VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

I'M HERE TODAY TO OPPOSE ALCOHOL SALES OUTSIDE BARTON SPRINGS POOL.

I ALSO SPOKE AT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, MEET AGAINST THE CUP AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING ON JUNE 17TH AND THE PARD MEETING ON JUNE 22ND CITY IS PROPOSING A GALACTICALLY BAD IDEA TO SELL ALCOHOL 30 STEPS FROM THE POOL ENTRANCE, NOT TO MENTION 35 FEET FROM THE TRAIN AND 200 FEET FROM THE PLAYGROUND.

BARTON SPRINGS IS A THREE ACRE POOL ON ANY GIVEN SUMMER DAY.

THERE ARE POTENTIALLY 3000 PEOPLE FOR THE ALREADY OVERWORKED AND UNDERPAID LIFEGUARDS TO LOOK AFTER AND ALL TOO OFTEN RESCUE THAT'S WITHOUT ALCOHOL SALES, 30 STEPS FROM THE POOL ENTRANCE DROWNINGS HAPPEN FAST AND SILENT REQUIRE A SPLIT-SECOND DECISION MAKING FROM LIFEGUARDS.

IMAGINE DELAYS IN THEIR RESPONSES.

IF THEY WERE MENTALLY WORN DOWN BY PLAYING BOUNCER TO DRUNK PEOPLE ALL DAY.

ACCORDING TO THE CDC WEBSITE, ALCOHOL'S INVOLVED IN 70% OF DROWNING DEATHS.

THERE ARE SCIENTIFIC DATA THAT CONCLUDE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION CONTRIBUTES TO DROWNING.

ADDITIONALLY, THE LIFEGUARDS DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE TRAINING TO DEAL WITH INTOXICATED PATRONS, NOR HAVE THEY BEEN CONSULTED ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.

WHAT WILL WE ASK TO THEM AS UNSAFE AND UNFAIR? I'VE OBTAINED THE CITY OF AUSTIN LIFEGUARD TRAINING MANUAL AND CONFIRMED LIFEGUARDS RECEIVED NO TRAINING TO IDENTIFY OR DEAL WITH INTOXICATED PEOPLE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

I SEE POOL PATRONS SCREAM AND YELL AT LIFEGUARDS FOR ENFORCING RULES.

IMAGINE HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH WORSE THAT WOULD BE WITH MORE INTOXICATED PATRONS.

I SPOKE WITH SEVERAL LIFE GUARDS AND DESPITE NOT BEING ABLE TO SPECIFICALLY PUBLICLY OPPOSE THIS PROPOSAL ON THE JOB, THEY MADE THEIR FEELINGS, CRYSTAL,

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CRYSTAL PERIOD.

THEY WERE ANGRY, STUNNED, AND AGHAST.

WHY WOULD THE CITY MAKE AN IMPORTANT DECISION TO CREATE A NEW BURDEN FOR THE LIFEGUARDS STICK WITH ME HERE BECAUSE THERE'S MORE PARKS DIRECTOR, KIMBERLY MCNEALY, ALONG WITH STAFF, CHRISTINA BIAS, AND JUSTIN SNYDER HAD STATED DURING RECORDED MEETINGS THAT THEIR PROPOSAL TO SELL ALCOHOL NEAR THE POOL ENTRANCE IS A DIRECT RESPONSE TO A PUBLIC INPUT.

IN A SURVEY.

I HAVE OBTAINED THAT SURVEY.

IN FACT, THE PUBLIC INPUT WAS AMIR 16, OUT OF 450 OR 3% OF RESPONDENTS INDICATED THEY WOULD LIKE ALCOHOL SERVED AT THE CAFE.

I QUESTIONED KIMBERLY MCNEILLY'S JUSTIFICATION FOR PUSHING A PROPOSAL FORWARD WHERE 97% OF 450 PEOPLE DID NOT INDICATE THEY WOULD PURCHASE ALCOHOL FROM THE CAFE POLLS ARE TO PUT IT MILDLY A POOR BASIS FOR PUBLIC HEALTH POLICY.

DON'T YOU THINK W LISTENED TO THE TWO COMMUNITY AND PARD MEETINGS.

I MENTIONED FROM START TO FINISH, NOT A SINGLE BARTON SPRINGS SWIMMER IS IN FAVOR OF THE CUP PART BOARD MEMBER, RICH DEPALMA COMPARED BARTON SPRINGS TO CONEY ISLAND OR GALVESTON SAYING THE ALCOHOL IS SERVED AT THOSE LOCATIONS WITH NO INCIDENTS.

NEXT SPEAKER, MARK GENTLE.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.

I KNOW FIRSTHAND THE COMMITMENT AND THE SACRIFICE YOU MAKE BY FIELDING THE CALLS, THE EMAILS, AND PARTICIPATING IN THESE MEETINGS.

UH, I'LL BE BRIEF.

I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY, MY WIFE AND MYSELF, WE'RE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO ALCOHOL SALES FOR THE SAFETY REASONS THAT YOU'VE HEARD FOR THE OVERALL CHANGE OF CHARACTER THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED WHEN YOU BALANCE THE POTENTIAL PUBLIC BENEFIT OF ALCOHOL SALES AND THE POTENTIAL HARM THAT YOU WOULD BE DOING TO THAT ICONIC LOCATION.

IT'S NOT EVEN A CONTEST.

THERE ARE SO MANY NEGATIVES, BOTH REAL AND POSSIBLE.

AND WHAT IS THE COUNTERBALANCE TO THAT? I CAN FRANKLY THINK OF NONE I'VE BEEN AT AND MY WIFE HAVE BEEN SWIMMERS THERE REGULARLY AT BARTON SPRINGS.

AND WE USE THE, THE GREENBELT AND THE PARK GENERALLY FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS, OUR LIFESTYLE HAS CHANGED OVER THAT TIME.

OUR USE OF THE PARK HAS CHANGED OVER THAT TIME.

IT NEVER OCCURRED TO US THAT WHAT'S MISSING IS A BEER.

IT JUST, IT JUST NEVER CAME UP BECAUSE YOU BECOME SO, I MEAN, IT, WE, WE LIVE JUST ABOVE THE PARK.

WE'RE A HALF A MILE AWAY.

I'VE PARTICIPATED IN MEETINGS, BEEN ON GROUPS, COMMITTEES, APPOINTED, NOT APPOINTED.

THIS IS JUST, IT STRIKES RIGHT AT THE HEART TO US.

PEOPLE LOVE THAT PLACE.

WHAT A CHANGE OF CHARACTER AND WHAT A RISK YOU WOULD BE TAKING BY ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN.

SO PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS APPLICATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT SPEAKER IS DAN, UH, UPDIKE.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

MY NAME IS DAN UPDIKE.

I'M A FREQUENT SWIMMER AT BARTON SPRINGS POOL.

I'M OPPOSED TO THE ALCOHOL SALES NEAR BARTON SPRINGS POOL.

AND I SPOKE AT, AT YOUR MEETING IN JUNE.

SO I'LL BE BRIEF.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TOLD THAT THE ALCOHOL WILL STAY WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE SERVING AREA.

UH, BUT WE WERE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE RULES THAT ARE, ARE ROUTINELY BROKEN AT ZILKER PARK, UH, LEAFY DOGS BEING I'M PROBABLY THE MOST VISIBLE.

I, I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE VENDOR'S GOING TO DO THE BEST JOB THAT THEY CAN.

AND I ALSO HAVE NO DOUBT THAT MANY OF THE PATRONS WILL BE RESPONSIBLE, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 30 FEET FROM A VERY BUSY POOL WITH, AS WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT, VERY BUSY LIFEGUARDS, LOTS TO DO LOTS TO WORRY ABOUT, AND IT DOESN'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF MISTAKES TO HAVE A REAL PROBLEM.

AND SO I'M OPPOSED ON SAFETY GROUNDS.

I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT WE, YOU

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KNOW, WE, WE TALK ABOUT, UH, PRIVATE FACILITIES NEAR WATER THAT SERVE ALCOHOL WE'VE.

WE KNOW OF SOME PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT ALSO SERVE ALCOHOL IN HERE, WATER, UH, BUT IT IS A DANGEROUS COMBINATION AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO OTHER OPTION FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ENJOY A PLACE LIKE BARTON SPRINGS POOL.

IT IS A UNIQUE TREASURE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S, UH, IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT SETTING, AN ALCOHOL SERVED, YOU DON'T WANT ALCOHOL.

MAYBE YOU CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT BARTON SPRINGS POOL, THERE IS NO PLAN B.

THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE TO GO.

AND FOR THAT REASON, I'D LIKE, UH, TO YOU TO OPPOSE THIS PERMIT OR THIS, THIS CUP AND, AND KEEP IT AS THE TREASURE THAT IT IS BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL FOR SO MANY YEARS, UH, FOR THE CITIZENS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, MR. SCOTT, COBB.

HELLO EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS SCOTT COBB AND I CURRENTLY WORK AS A LIFEGUARD AT BARTON SPRINGS POOL.

I'VE BEEN SO FOR SEVERAL SUMMERS, 2018.

UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK FIRST OF ALL THIS BOARD FOR ITS CONSIDERATION, AND YOU'RE ALREADY NEGATIVE VOTE ON THIS PROPOSAL.

I'VE REALLY NEVER ATTENDED THESE BOARD MEETINGS BEFORE, BUT I'VE REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE DECISION-MAKING AND THE, YOUR CONTEMPLATIONS.

UM, I AM A LITTLE, UM, CONCERNED.

UH, THERE DOES SEEM TO BE AN ELEMENT OF, UH, FLIMFLAMMERY GOING ON HERE WITH CONTINUING TO PUSH THIS PROPOSAL AFTER IT'S ALREADY BEEN VOTED DOWN.

I THINK WE'LL SEE THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

UH, BUT FIRST I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE.

I THINK MOST OF YOU ALREADY CAN, UH, CONVINCED ABOUT, AND THAT IS THE INDISSOLUBILITY OF ALCOHOL AND SWIMMING.

WE OFTEN, UH, CATCH ALL DAY LONG IN THE SUMMERTIME.

WE CATCH PEOPLE AT ARDEN SPRINGS WITH, WITH ALCOHOL, THEY BRING IT IN AND CANS.

THEY CAN SEAL IT.

WE CATCH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

IF WE CAN SEE THE CAN AND SEE THE BEER, SEE THE WHITE CLAW A BOTTLE, THEY ALSO BRING IT IN ANOTHER CONTAINER THAT WE CANNOT SEE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO SEARCH THAT YOU CAN TELL PEOPLE ARE, SOME PEOPLE ARE OR ANY RAID IT.

IF THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY NEVER ATE IT, WE CAN OBVIOUSLY KICK THEM OUT, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE TO BE OBVIOUSLY A NUMERATOR TO BE A DANGER TO YOURSELF.

AND TO OTHER SWIMMERS, BARTON SPRINGS IS, CAN BE A DANGEROUS PLACE.

THERE HAVE BEEN DEATHS AT BARTON SPRINGS, WHETHER OR NOT ALCOHOL WASN'T DIRECTLY INVOLVED.

I CANNOT SAY 2013, SOMEONE WAS SWIMMING ACROSS THE POOL, WENT UNDER, WAS FISHED OUT.

AND, UH, THEY DIED SINCE I'VE BEEN WORKING IN 2018.

AND I KNOW OF THREE INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE PERFORMED CPR AT THE POLE AND WE PERFORM OVER 200 RESCUES OF PEOPLE IN THE WATER EVERY YEAR DURING THE BUSY PRE COVID YEARS, IT CAN BE DANGEROUS.

PEOPLE MAKE POOR DECISIONS WHEN THEY DECIDE TO SWIM ACROSS THE POOL, WE WATCHED THEM.

WE CAN USUALLY TELL WHEN THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MAKE IT, AND WE CAUTION THEM NOT TO DO IT, BUT YOU CAN'T CATCH EVERYONE.

THEY DO SWIM ACROSS AND THEN SOME START TO DROWN AND WE SAVED THEM.

WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OF OUR 20 MINUTE DOWNTIME, BUT IN BETWEEN STANDS, PATROLLING THE GROUNDS.

WE CATCH A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH ALCOHOL.

IT IS A SERIOUS DISTRACTION FROM OTHER DUTIES.

PEOPLE CAN BE ARGUMENTATIVE.

THEY CAN BE, THEY CAN REPEAT THAT, UH, THE QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

WELL, CAN I JUST POUR IT OUT? I DIDN'T KNOW.

UH, NOW HE CAN'T, I'M SORRY.

YOU CAN COME BACK ANOTHER DAY.

JUST DON'T BRING ALCOHOL TO THE POOL.

NOW WE CAN'T SEE, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

WE CAN ONLY DO THAT WITH PEOPLE.

WE SEE IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUYING ALCOHOL, UH, OUTSIDE THE POLE AND THEY DRINK IT.

WE CAN'T SEE IT.

GREAT, MR. COBB, WE APPRECIATE IT.

AND THANK YOU FOR ADDING YOUR VOICE NEXT SPEAKER.

UH, DORA HANSARD.

HI EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS, UH, DARRA HANSARD, AND I'M A CURRENT CASHIER AT BARTON SPRINGS POOL.

I AM TASKED WITH MEETING EVERYONE THAT COMES INTO THE POOL.

I AM TAKING EACH AND EVERY PERSON'S TICKET AND ENFORCING OUR RULES.

BE IT, NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE FOOD IN HERE.

I'M SORRY.

YOU CAN'T BRING YOUR COOLER.

AND, UM, MOST COMBATIVELY NO, YOU CAN'T DRINK ALCOHOL IN HERE.

PEOPLE WAIT 30 MINUTES.

SOMETIMES EVEN UP TO AN HOUR ON BUSY SUMMER DAYS WHERE THEY'RE HOT, THEY WANT TO GO SWIMMING AND THEY MAY JUST HAVE ALCOHOL IN THEIR HANDS.

THEY MAY NOT BE FROM AUSTIN.

THEY MAY BE FROM AUSTIN, BUT NOT EVERYONE IS AWARE OF OUR ALCOHOL POLICY.

AND SOMETIMES THEY'LL WAIT THAT 30 MINUTES TO AN HOUR.

THEY'LL GET UP

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TO ME AND I HAVE TO REFUSE THEM ENTRY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'VE PAID.

WE HAVE A NO REFUND POLICY AND EXPLAINING TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE WAITED THAT LONG, UM, IN THAT KIND OF HEAT IS DIFFICULT.

PEOPLE CAN GET QUITE UPSET.

I'VE HAD MANY INCIDENTS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE YELLED AT ME, THREATENED ME, BECOME AGGRESSIVE WITH ME, NOT EVEN A MONTH AGO.

I HAD A GENTLEMEN BARRICADE HIMSELF AT OUR FRONT ENTRANCE AND REFUSE TO MOVE FOR OVER 10 MINUTES.

IT TOOK MY MANAGER, UM, THREATENING TO CALL THE POLICE FOR HIM TO ACTUALLY LEAVE THE FACILITY.

WE COMMONLY EXPLAINED TO HIM, NO, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME BACK ANOTHER DAY, BUT WE SIMPLY JUST DON'T ALLOW ALCOHOL HERE TO THINK THAT ALCOHOL WOULD BE SOLD SO CLOSE TO THE POOL FOR PERIMETER AS SOMEONE WHO IS TASKED WITH TELLING PEOPLE, NO, YOU CAN'T BRING THAT IN HERE.

UM, WAS VERY DAUNTING.

UH, I THINK IT'S A POOR IDEA AND I THINK WE SHOULD PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THE POOL AND KEEP IT A SACRED PLACE FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY.

ALCOHOL IS NOT NECESSARY FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY OUR PARK SPACES.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NEXT SPEAKER, MR. DENNIS MARINO.

HELLO.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, UM, I WORKED AT THE POOL FOR FOUR YEARS.

UM, AND DURING THAT TIME I'VE SEEN A LOT OF, UH, PEOPLE COME AND GO.

UM, I'VE HAD A LOT OF, UH, ALTERCATIONS WITH PATIENTS THAT DO THE ALCOHOL POLICIES THAT WE DO HAVE AT THE FACILITY.

UM, AND DURING THE, UH, COVID TIMES, WE ALSO CLEANED UP A LOT OF LITTER FROM THE, UH, PARK SPACES.

AND MOST OF THAT LITTER WAS, UH, DUE TO THE ALCOHOL, UH, BEING LEFT, UM, AND THRONE AND NOT THE TRASH CANS.

AND WE'VE ALSO HAD ALTERCATIONS WITH PEOPLE JUST BRINGING ALCOHOL INTO THE PARK ITSELF AND, UH, JUST BEING AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE HELPING CLEAN UP THE PARKS AND, UM, TRYING TO KEEP THE AREA CLEAN AND SAFE.

UM, WHILE WORKING AT THE POOL, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF SAVES DUE TO ALCOHOL BEING CONSUMED AND, UM, HEATSTROKE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

UM, WITH THE COMBINATION OF ALCOHOL, UM, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF HARASSMENT, UH, DUE TO THE ALCOHOL POLICIES AS WELL.

UM, SO I DON'T, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY, UM, SELLING ALCOHOL INSIDE OF THE FACILITY WOULD MAKE, UM, ANY OF THAT, ANY EASIER.

UM, I'VE ALSO SEEN A LOT OF ABUSE TOWARDS, UM, THE CASHIERS AND THE LIFEGUARDS DUE TO THE ALCOHOL POLICIES.

UM, WHETHER THAT BE THE PATRONS, NOT KNOWING, UM, THE RULES OF THE FACILITY OR WHETHER THAT BE THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE, OF THE POLICIES.

UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I FEEL LIKE ADDING ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER PART TO THAT BATTLE WOULD SEEM KIND OF POINTLESS AND A LITTLE FRUSTRATING AT THE END OF THE DAY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONCESSION STANDS WILL PROBABLY TRY THEIR BEST TO, UM, KEEP THE ALCOHOL WHERE IT IS AND TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE DON'T LET HER OR BRING IT TO THE FACILITIES.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, ONCE THE ALCOHOL HAS BEEN CONSUMED, UM, THERE'S NOT MUCH THAT WE, UM, AS POLL WORKERS COULD DO TO, UH, MAKE THE ISSUES ANY SIMPLER OR EASIER.

UM, SO I BEG THAT YOU GUYS DON'T, UH, APPROVE FOR THIS MOTION TO CONTINUE.

UM, IT'S JUST BETTER TO KEEP LESS, UH, RULE BREAKERS OUT OF THE FACILITY TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR ALL THE WORKERS THERE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT SPEAKER, JENNIFER RUBBING.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING.

HI.

UH, BEFORE I START, THERE'S QUICK QUESTION.

CAN I GUILD SOME OF MY TIME BACK TO SOMEBODY ELSE? IS THAT OKAY? OKAY.

SO, UM, CAN I START NOW? OKAY NOW.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR SERVICE.

UM, MY NAME IS JENNIFER ROBYN ALT.

I AM A YEAR LONG ACTIVE SWIMMER OF BARTON SPRINGS.

I'M A NATIVE AUSTINITE.

I'VE BEEN SWIMMING AT THE SPRINGS SINCE I WAS A LITTLE GIRL.

UM, I'M VERY CLOSE TO MANY OF THE LIFEGUARDS.

UM, IT IS A PLACE I GO TO AT LEAST FIVE OR SIX TIMES A WEEK, AND I'VE TAKEN MY SON TO BARTON SPRINGS SINCE HE WAS A BABY.

HE'S 15.

UM, I'D LIKE TO GO OVER JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS, SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN PAST MEETINGS, AND I AM A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED ABOUT WHY WE'RE HAVING TO VOTE ON THIS AGAIN WHILE YOU GUYS ARE HAVING A VOTE ON THIS AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MORE TIMES WE, YOU GUYS NEED TO VOTE, BUT, UM, LET'S TONIGHT BE THE LAST TIME THAT'D BE GREAT.

UM, BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF GIVING UP MY EVENINGS TO COME TO THESE THINGS AND TO GO ON ZOOM, UM, FEELING SHARED BY US.

YES, I STARTED A CHANGE.ORG PETITION WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP, FIFTH 555 PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED THAT PETITION

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PETITION AGAINST THE USE OF ALCOHOL AND THE, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

UM, THE OPPOSITION HAS SAID THAT THIS WOULD REGULATE IT ALCOHOL AND MAKE IT SAFER.

SO PEOPLE AREN'T SNEAKING IT IN.

I THINK THAT'S INSANE.

UM, I THINK THAT HAVING ALCOHOL SALES CONTRIBUTES TO A CULTURE OF DRINKING AND THESE ARE PUBLIC PARKS IN PUBLIC POOLS.

OKAY.

SO THESE ARE NOT ENTERTAINMENT.

FOR-PROFIT ENTERTAINMENT, VENUES.

THESE ARE FOR ALL PEOPLE IN ALL COMMUNITIES ACROSS ALL OF AUSTIN.

SO I'M REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT THIS TREND OF NORMALIZING DRINKING AND FAMILY SPACES, NORMALIZING DRINKING AROUND CHILDREN, NORMALIZING DRINKING AS A PART OF A WAY TO EXPERIENCE A PUBLIC SPACE.

I'M REALLY SICK OF IT.

AND I REALLY WANT THIS TO STOP AND I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE BEHIND ME.

I THINK THE VENDOR'S GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB WITH THE MENU.

I LIKE THE MENU.

I THINK IT'S COOL.

UM, PEOPLE DRINK ANYWAY.

SO WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL IS ANOTHER ARGUMENT.

UM, IT IS A BIG DEAL.

IT'S ABOUT CULTURE AND