Oct 04, 2021 Music

[CALL TO ORDER]

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OH, THIS MEETING TO ORDER IS THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC COMMISSION.

TODAY IS OCTOBER 4TH, 2021.

AND WHERE AUSTIN CITY HALL.

UM, WE'RE GOING

[MUSICAL PERFORMANCE]

UM, THIS GROUP IS CALLED THE STRANGE CADETS.

GAVIN, YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THEM? I DO.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

UH, SO THIS IS A BAND THAT WAS FORMED IN 2017 IN EL PASO, TEXAS.

THERE, UH, SEVERAL OF THEM ARE FROM MEXICO.

THEY WENT TO UT EL PASO FOR SCHOOL.

THEY MADE THEIR WAY TO AUSTIN FOR A COUPLE OF SHOWS, AND THEN THEY MADE A MOVE HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID JUST BREAK ALTOGETHER TO LIVE TOGETHER IN A VERY EXPENSIVE CITY.

SO THEY'RE AN INDIE POP ROCK BAND THAT HAS AN EAP OUT NOW CALLED LOVE'S NOT TIMES FOOL.

UM, THEY'VE ALSO APPEARED, UH, IN THE UK ON THE BBC MUSIC, INTRODUCING THEIR SINGLES SEASIDE, AND FAR FROM HERE, THEY HAD HIGHLY PRAISED DEBUT AT SAXON PUB RECENTLY.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, THE MAKEUP OF THE BAND IS RICHARD SELISE ON LEAD VOCALS, PEPE RAMIREZ ON LEAD GUITAR.

RAUL HA'S ON BASS AND ALAN MONTAS ON DRUMS LECTURE.

OKAY.

WE'VE GOT A VIDEO TO ROW HERE.

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THANK YOU.

THAT WAS COOL.

YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? UM, JUST, UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING OUT FOR THESE KIDS AND THESE FOUR YOUNG LATINOS ARE REPRESENTING A MAJOR COMPONENT OF THE CITY, I THINK IN THE, IN THE FUTURE THEY'RE IN THEIR EARLY TWENTIES.

UH, SO WE'LL BE LOOKING OUT FOR THIS GROUP.

THANK YOU.

ONCE AGAIN, THAT WAS STRANGE CADETS.

I FORGOT I WAS AT A MUSIC COMMISSION MEETING FOR A SECOND, JUST A SECOND.

IT WAS A VIBE WAS COOL.

COOL.

THANKS FOR SHARING.

[CITIZEN COMMUNICATION]

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

UM, IS THERE A SECOND? UH, OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'LL POSE ARE ALL IN FAVOR SIDE ON THE FAVOR.

I'LL POST.

ALL RIGHT.

WE MOVE PAST THAT

[2. CHAIR’S REPORT]

UM, I HAVEN'T, UH, I REALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS MY LAST MEETING COMMISSION MEETING AS A CHAIR AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT ABOUT CREATING SOME NEW WORDS, BUT I'VE SAID A LOT OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, UM, ON ISSUES OF EQUITY IN PARTICULAR IN THE CITY.

UM, SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ A FEW KIND OF THINGS.

I CUT AND PASTE FROM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT DELIVERED OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, AND JUST REITERATE TO THIS GROUP THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT GOING BACK TO NORMAL, BUT WE KNOW NORMAL WAS A PROBLEM FOR CERTAIN MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE REALLY WANT TO USE THIS BODY TO PUSH FORWARD AND PUSH FORWARD WITH EQUITY.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN THE FOCUS OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, AND I'M PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE AS A COMMISSION, UM, IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY AND COORDINATION WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, I FELT LIKE THE, UM, THE CHANGE THAT WE'VE PUSHED FOR IS CERTAINLY SIGNIFICANT AND HISTORIC, AND JUST WANNA ENCOURAGE US TO CONTINUE ON THAT PATH, EVEN THOUGH I WON'T NECESSARILY BE, UM, LEADING AS CHAIR, I'LL STILL BE HERE WITH, UH, WITH THAT VOICE.

AND, UH, I WANNA ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE THAT COMMITMENT.

SO I'M JUST GONNA READ A FEW DIFFERENT PIECES.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON.

SO RACIAL EQUITY IS THE CONDITION WHEN RACE NO LONGER PREDICTS A PERSON'S QUALITY OF LIFE OUTCOMES IN OUR COMMUNITY AS SUCH THE CITY OF AUSTIN HAS RECOGNIZED THAT RACE IS THE PRIMARY DETERMINANT OF SOCIAL EQUITY.

MOVING THIS DEFINITION INTO THE MUSIC SECTOR, RACE IS A PRIMARY DETERMINANT FOR THE SUCCESS OF BIPAP MUSICIANS AND ORGANIZATIONS.

WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO REMAIN IN THE REALM OF AWARENESS ANY LONGER IT'S TIME TO ACT.

AND CITY LEADERSHIP MUST PRIORITIZE EQUITY WITH THE SAME ENERGY THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO SAVING VENUES AND PROVIDING EMERGENCY FUNDING TO THOSE AFFECTED BY COVID-19.

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LET'S REMEMBER THAT OUR CITY BUDGET IS A MORAL DOCUMENT AND THAT THE FAILURE TO PROVIDE CLEAR DIRECTION IS ONE THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD.

IF WE INTEND TO SEE SUSTAINABLE GROWTH IN THE FUTURE, AUSTIN BRANDS ITSELF AS A PROGRESSIVE DESTINATION CITY.

AND THIS IS WHAT PROGRESS LOOKS LIKE IN 2021.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THEORY AND TRENDING TAGLINES.

IT'S ABOUT RESOURCE ALLOCATION AND ECONOMIC REDISTRIBUTION.

SO AGAIN, THE PI, UM, FUNDING THAT WE, THAT WE UNANIMOUSLY VOTED FOR TALK ABOUT PRESERVATION.

THE CITY CAN PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE TO ENSURE THAT THE LEGACIES OF HISTORICALLY UNDERFUNDED AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES WILL BE PRESERVED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, WHETHER IT'S PROVIDING FUNDS FOR THE HISTORY TO BE TAUGHT IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH EVENTS OR FOR CULTURAL TRADITIONS TO BE PASSED ON THROUGH PUBLIC WORKSHOPS OR FOR INFRASTRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS IN BUILDINGS, PRESERVATION LEADS TO TOURISM BECAUSE IT DEVELOPS PLACEMAKING OPPORTUNITIES AND SPACES THAT COULD BE MOLDED THAT CAN BE PROMOTED AND EXPERIENCED YEAR ROUND INNOVATION.

IT IS CRITICAL THAT MONEY BE IN THE HANDS OF THOSE MOST EFFECTED BY RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AND THAT THEY BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO CARVE OUT THEIR FUTURE WITH SUPPORT FROM THE CITY.

THE FUTURE OF AUSTIN'S MUSIC SCENE, IS IT INEXTRICABLY LINKED WITH HIS ABILITY TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR MOST MARGINALIZED MEMBERS, TOURISM WILL INEVITABLY GROW AS A RESULT DUE TO THE FACT THAT INNOVATION CREATES NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR ONLINE AND PUBLIC SPACES THAT WILL BUILD NEW AUDIENCES PREVIOUSLY UNTAPPED BY TRADITIONAL APPROACHES OF THE PAST ELEVATION, MUCH MORE CAN BE DONE WITH THE ALREADY EXISTING INDUSTRY INFRASTRUCTURE TO RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THE MUSIC AND CULTURE COMING FROM UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS IN GYRUS FUNDING FOR ELEVATION CAN BE PROVIDED TO BIPAP LED ORGANIZATIONS AND LEADERS THAT HAVE IDEAS FOR BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT LEADS TO GREATER AWARENESS OF THE VIBRANT BIPAP MUSIC SCENE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

THE GOAL OF ELEVATION IS TO MOVE THESE GROUPS FROM THE, FROM UNDER-REPRESENTATION TO EQUITABLE REPRESENTATION AND OPPORTUNITY ACROSS ALL AREAS OF THE MUSIC SECTOR.

THIS IS PIE.

UM, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A LEGACY THAT WE HOPE TO BUILD UPON.

WE'RE MAKING SOME IMPORTANT DECISIONS TODAY.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

WE'RE ON TO A ONE

[3A. Discussion and Possible Action on Working Group recommendations regarding development of guidelines around criteria for 3rd party for the Live Music Fund Event Program and Austin Music Disaster Relief Fund.]

THANK YOU, SHAKA AND GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

UM, THE LAST TIME I WAS STANDING BEFORE THIS DYESS, I WAS TELLING SHOTGUN A MINUTE AGO THAT MY BELT SIZE WAS ABOUT THREE HOLES, SMALLER, BUT, UH, I'M GLAD TO BE HERE.

IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A LONG COUPLE OF YEARS.

UM, SO, UH, I JUST WANT TO START BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, LIVE MUSIC FUNDS, UH, EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM HAS WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD TO GET TO THIS POINT.

UH, I KNOW IT'S BEEN LONGER THAN TWO YEARS IN THE MAKING IT'S BEEN, THIS THING HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT SINCE 2017, GONE THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMITTEES, DIFFERENT VOTES, DIFFERENT WORKING GROUPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

UM, AND, UH, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT ALL NOT AGREE ON EVERY POINT ALL THE TIME.

UH, EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM IS ON THE SAME TEAM AND WE ALL WANT THE SAME GOAL IN MIND.

SO, UH, JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

AND, UM, AS FAR AS, UH, AUSTIN, TEXAS MUSICIANS, UM, THE BEST THING THAT WE CAN ALWAYS DO IS TO LISTEN TO THE VOICES OF OUR MUSICIANS AND GATHER THEIR FEEDBACK AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU GUYS.

AND SO, UH, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID OVER THE LAST A MONTH.

AND, UM, IN OUR MAT MEETING ON FRIDAY, UH, WE KIND OF POSED A FEW QUESTIONS TO THE MUSICIANS AND WENT THROUGH SOME OF THE AGENDA ITEMS. AND THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE LANDED.

UM, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WE, WE KIND OF FEEL LIKE, UH, THAT THE, UM, AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF, UH, FUND SHOULD GET OUT THE DOOR RIGHT NOW.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, BY SEPARATING THE TWO FUNDS, UH, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE MUSICIANS WHO REALLY NEED THOSE FUNDS, UH, HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE RIGHT AWAY.

AND I REALLY DO WANT TO COMMEND STAFF, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, WIDENING THE SCOPE OF, UH, SERVICE ON THOSE FUNDS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD FROM SO MANY MUSICIANS OVER THE LAST YEAR THAT JUST LIVE JUST OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL DISTRICTS, AND NOW THEY CAN, UH, TAKE PART IN THAT FUNDING.

UH, NUMBER TWO, UH, THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WAITED TWO AND IT'S WORTH THE EXTRA TIME TO REALLY, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT THE MONEY WHERE IT CAN GROW.

THAT'S THE ONLY POINT THERE.

SO THEY DO WANT TO WAIT

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UM, ANOTHER THING THEY MENTIONED WAS THAT, UM, THE LIME MUSIC FUND CRITERIA JUST NEEDS A LITTLE MORE EXAMINATION.

THEY LIKED MOST OF THE POINTS.

I THINK, UH, ONE POINT THAT THEY BROUGHT UP WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, BY CREATING THIS, UH, $5,000 FLOOR AND CREATING THIS, UM, SORT OF SYSTEM TO CREATE MANSIC EVENTS, IT KIND OF CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF A BARRIER FOR SOME MUSICIANS WHO MAY NOT HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO CREATE A FULL ON EVENT, OR MAYBE EVEN BOOK A FULL, UH, ROSTER OF SHOWS FOR A YEAR TO HIT THAT 5K FLOOR.

UM, SO REALLY WHAT THEY WERE HOPING TO SEE, MAYBE AN ADDITION IS, UH, SOMETHING WHERE THEY COULD RE BE REIMBURSED TO PLAY INDIVIDUAL GIGS OR WHERE THE VENUES WOULD BE REIMBURSED TO PAY THEM A FAIR RATE THAT THE CITY IS DEFINED AS 150 HOUR TO PLAY THOSE GIGS.

UH, SO THEY'D LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

UH, AND THEN FINALLY I THINK IS, IS GENERALLY MOST OF THESE THINGS GO, UH, THEY WERE HOPING TO SEE, UH, THAT THE FINAL DECISION WOULD LIE WITH COUNCIL.

UM, AND SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE HOPE YOU GUYS HEAR THAT FEEDBACK AND MAKE THE MOST APPROPRIATE DECISIONS TONIGHT.

YOU CAN.

UH, ALSO, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I SEE THAT HAMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOME EXTRA SUPPORT.

I THINK EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS THAT I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE HERE RIGHT NOW WITHOUT THE HELP OF HAM LAST YEAR WITH SOME OF MY MEDICAL, UH, ADVENTURES.

UH, SO I WOULD STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT WE, UH, HELP HIM OUT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CODY COWEN, IS THIS THE MASKS ON OR MASKS OFF THING? WHAT ARE THE RULES HERE? WE'RE MAKING THE RULES UP AS WE GO.

I'LL TRY, I'LL TRY MY BEST WITH IT ON IF WE'RE ALL PLAYING NICE AT FIRST, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND ALL THE, AGAIN, AS I ITERATED LAST COMMISSION, MEETING ALL THE ENERGY AND WORK, THAT'S GONE INTO THIS OVER THE COURSE, THIS EFFORT WITH THE LIVE MUSIC FUND OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST FOUR YEARS.

I THINK OF WHAT WE LEARNED FROM LAST MEETING WAS THAT THERE STILL A LITTLE WORK TO BE DONE IN TERMS OF CRITERIA AND IN TERMS OF HOW TO DEVELOP AND GROW THE FUND.

UM, WE STAND ON THE EDGE OF THE PRECIPICE OF HISTORY WITH THIS FUND.

WE WILL BE THE FIRST CITY IN THE COUNTRY TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL FACING HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND FOR LIVE MUSIC THAT SETS US APART FROM ALL OF OUR PEERS NATIONALLY.

I THINK IT, AGAIN, BEARS IN MIND, JUST TAKING A LITTLE EXTRA TIME TO WORK ON THAT.

SO MUSIC I'M HERE AS THE PRESIDENT OF MUSIC MAKES AUSTIN TO IDENTIFY FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE MUSIC COMMISSION TODAY.

THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION IS TO DIVORCE THE AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND FROM THE LIVE MUSIC FUND THAT'S DISASTER RELIEF FUNDING THAT NEEDS TO GET OUT TO MUSICIANS ASAP.

AND THERE'S NO REASON THAT THIS ONGOING PROCESS WITH MUSIC COMMISSION AND STAKEHOLDERS SHOULD SLOW THAT DOWN.

THE SECOND IS THAT AGAIN, HOT FUNDS ARE IN DRAMATIC DECLINE DUE TO PANDEMIC, AND ACCORDING TO REPORTS DELIVERED THROUGH VISIT AUSTIN, THE TRAJECTORY FOR OVERALL RECOVERY OF THOSE DOLLARS IS GOING TO BE AS OF TODAY, BETWEEN TWO AND THREE YEARS.

SO WE KNOW IF THERE'S A, IF THERE'S HOT PIE, THE COMMERCIAL MUSIC INDUSTRY ONLY HAS A LITTLE BIT OF CRUST OF THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER THAN BEFORE WHEN COVID STARTED.

AND WE REALLY JUST NEED TO FIND, EXPLORE EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE CAN TO GROW THAT THROUGH PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY, AGAIN, TO REITERATE OUR RECOMMENDATION LAST TIME, WE STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT THE AEC BE THE THIRD PARTY ADMIN OF THIS FUND, IT WOULD FIT ELEGANTLY WITHIN THEIR MISSION.

IT HAS MULTIPLE POINTS OF INPUT FROM MULTIPLE GROUPS OF STAKEHOLDERS, AND IT ALSO IS GOING TO BE CARRYING FORWARD THE CULTURAL LAND TRUST.

AGAIN, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND COULD BE DELIVERED ON THE SHORT TERM BETWEEN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO WHILE THE CULTURAL LAND TRUST A BODY THAT'S SEEKS TO PRESERVE LAND OVER TIME IS GOING TO BE A LONG-TERM PROJECT.

I THINK IT JUST BE A GREAT WAY FOR THEM TO GET TO KNOW OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE INSIDE OF A FIRST STEP PROCESS PROJECT.

WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION CONTINUE FORWARD WITH MORE TIME LOOKING AT THE CRITERIA, EXAMINING IT A LITTLE CLOSER, A LITTLE DEEPER.

OUR GROUP HAS IDENTIFIED FIVE DIFFERENT ISSUES CURRENTLY INSIDE OF THOSE.

AND WE'D LOVE TO CONTINUE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL TO REPORT BACK ON WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING AS WELL AS SOLUTIONS THAT ACCOMPANY THOSE.

AND LASTLY, WE RECOMMEND THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS

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AGAIN, THROUGH A COMBINATION OF EFFORT BY THE MUSIC COMMISSION AND MUSIC STAKEHOLDERS, WE'RE ABLE TO GET THAT THROUGH TO COUNCIL AND THROUGH REFERENDUM BROUGHT THAT BACK FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, THE GREAT WORK YOU AND STAFF HAD BEEN DOING HERE, BUT WE FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE FITTING THAT COUNCIL GETS TO SEE IT ONE LAST TIME SO THAT WE'RE ALL COMFORTABLE.

IT CAN GET SIGNED OFF ON, AND THEN WE CAN JUST CHUG FULL STEAM AHEAD WITH THAT AND NOT LOOK BAD.

THANK Y'ALL FOR Y'ALL'S TIME AND HAPPY TO ELABORATE.

GOING TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR 'EM THOUGHTS, DISCUSSION ON, UM, THREE A DO YOU WANT TO, UH, DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT? OKAY.

SO WE HAD A, A WORKING GROUP GOT TOGETHER WAS THAT SINCE THE LAST MEETING WAS THAT LAST WEEK, UH, AND WE MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO EDD REGARDING, UM, THE APPLICATION FOR THE LA MUSIC FUND AND ALSO, UM, THIRD PARTY ADMIN.

UM, SO CAN WE, DO WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE OR IS THAT, UH, ON A SCREEN OR NO? OKAY.

EVERYBODY'S GOOD.

SO I GUESS WE CAN'T SHOW THAT ON THE SCREEN, BUT, UM, IF Y'ALL TAKE A CHANCE, TAKE MAYBE A FEW MINUTES TO LOOK THAT OVER OR HAVE AS EVERYONE HAD THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

WE EMAILED THOSE.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS ABOUT THE SCORING CRITERIA THAT WE SHARE? I CAN, UH, I CAN BASICALLY GO OVER IT.

UM, SO WITH EACH, UM, CATEGORY WITH, UM, WITH THE EDD PRESENTED THERE'S 20 POINTS, UM, FOR BEING A BIPAP APPLICANT, THERE'S 15 POINTS FOR PRESERVATION, ET CETERA.

UM, WHAT WE DID WAS WE KIND OF CREATED SOME SUB POINT CATEGORIES WITHIN THAT, SO THAT, UM, AS RECOMMENDATIONS TO EDD THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY ADD TO THE APPLICATION PROCESS TO GET MORE FINE TUNED RESPONSES FROM APPLICANTS.

UM, SO WE BROKE IT THE FIRST CRITERIA, WHICH IS 20 POINTS INTO 10 SEPARATE QUESTIONS THAT WE PROVIDED TO EDD, UM, WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EVIDENCE OF COMMUNITY COOPERATION, UM, HOW YOU CREATED OPPORTUNITIES FOR BIPAP ARTISTS, UM, DESCRIBING HOW THE EVENT WILL CREATE, UH, FURTHER OPPORTUNITIES, IDENTIFY THE NAME AND RACIAL IDENTITIES OF ALL OF THE CORE LEADERS, RECOMMENDATION LETTERS FROM BIPAP ARTISTS OR BIPAP LED ORGS.

UM, HOW WILL YOU, HOW WILL YOU GAUGE SUCCESS OF THE EVENT? UM, IF, IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE NOT 100% OF THE DECISION-MAKING IS COLLABORATIVE AND BIPAP LED.

UM, AND ALSO IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME APPLYING FOR CITY FUNDING, UM, UNDER PRESERVATION, WE HAD THREE SUB-QUESTIONS TO, UH, EXPLAIN HOW CULTURAL AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS A PRIMARY GOAL OF THE EVENT.

DOES THE PRIMARY GENRE HIGHLIGHT, UM, A FOCUS ON HISTORICALLY UNDERREPRESENTED GROUP AND AN EXPLANATION OF THAT, UM, WILL THE EVENT TAKE PLACE AT A HISTORICALLY BIPAP SPACE OF VENUE, UM, UNDER INNOVATION? UM, WE HAVE THREE SUB-QUESTIONS EXPLAINING HOW, EXPLAIN HOW THIS EVENT WILL CREATE NEW PLATFORMS FOR BIPAP, LGBTQ, LGBTQ COMMUNITY.

EXPLAIN HOW TECHNOLOGY, UH, VENUE MEDIA WILL BE USED IN A NEW AND CREATIVE WAY.

UM, HOW WILL THE EVENT FOSTER AND ENCOURAGE NEW COLLABORATIONS AND PARTNERSHIPS, UM, AND THEN UNDER EVENTS AND COLLABORATION, WE HAD FOUR SEPARATE QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT HIGHLIGHTING AND PROMOTING ARTS AND CULTURE, UM, HOW THAT WILL HAPPEN WITH, UH, FOR BIPAP AND LGBTQ COMMUNITY.

UM, IF MORE THAN 51% OF THE HIRED AND CONTRACTED WORKERS IDENTIFY AS BIPAP OR NOT, YOU GET POINTS FOR THAT.

EXPLAIN, UM, EXPLAIN HOW EVENTS INTENDS TO TARGET BIPAP AND OR LGBTQ DEMOGRAPHICS.

AND THEN IF THE EVENT FEATURES SIGNIFICANT COLLABORATION BETWEEN BIPAP AND OR LGBTQ LED ORGANIZATIONS OR BUSINESSES, AND THEN THE EXPLANATION OF THAT.

SO THOSE ARE KIND OF OUR EXTENSIVE BREAKDOWNS, UM, FOR THE APPLICATION THAT WE SHARED WITH EDD ON FRIDAY, JUST AS RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT OR COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT NOW US ON THE, SPECIFICALLY ON THE LAB MUSIC PART, AND THEN, UH, AND CHARLOTTE CAN SHARE THE, OR DO YOU WANT TO DO THERAPY PARTY NOW? OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK THOSE QUESTIONS, UM,

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AND WE WENT THROUGH THESE WITH STAFF IS SHAKA SAID, AND I THINK A LOT OF THEM DOVETAIL WELL WITH THE INTENT OF THE APPLICATION.

UH, WE HAD A LITTLE SNEAK PEEK AT THE PORTAL.

SO I, I TH THE INTENT OF THAT REALLY IS JUST TO HELP THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR, UM, LOOK SIGHTFUL WAY.

AND WITH THE HOPE OF THAT, THAT THE APPLICANTS WHO ARE APPROACHING THIS WITH A SISSY, A SINCERE INTENTION TOWARDS, UH, DIVERSITY AND, UH, SUPPORTING UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES ARE TRULY BEING PART OF AN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY.

UM, THAT, THAT, THAT CAN BE CLEAR, UM, TO THE THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATOR.

YEAH, WE WERE, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TRYING TO JUST JUMP IN AND GET ON, GET ON A BOAT AND JUST RANDOMLY FIND SOME PEOPLE OF COLOR OR, OR, UH, QUEER COMMUNITY TO WORK WITH AND NOT REALLY HAVE IT BE AUTHENTIC.

SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF SAFEGUARD FOR THAT, BY HAVING THESE KIND OF SUB SUB QUESTIONS AND, UM, JUST EXPLANATIONS FOR THEIR HISTORY AND THEIR, UM, EXPERIENCE, UM, CREATING THESE TYPE OF EVENTS OR WORKING WITH THIS SPECIFIC COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY, THIS WAS OUR ATTEMPT TO JUST GIVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL TO THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

UM, YEAH, AND I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD ALSO ADD THAT, UH, WE, WE DID MAKE A POINT TO, TO MENTION THAT WE'RE ALSO WANTING TO INCLUDE, UH, WOMEN AND NON-BINARY PEOPLE IN THOSE GUIDELINES AS WELL AS UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.

AND, UM, I ALSO, I, I WONDER IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO MAYBE HEAR FROM ERICA OR SOMEBODY ERICA, OR SOMEBODY ON STAFF ABOUT THIS, BUT THE, UM, SOMETHING THAT I LEARNED, UM, THAT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME BEFORE WAS HOW THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS WILL BE HELPING PEOPLE WITH THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND TO BE, UH, TO HELP, TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THESE, UH, ALL THIS DOCUMENTATION IS A REALLY, YOU KNOW, EASY TO PROVIDE.

AND SO I'LL TURN IT OVER CHAIR, GIVE ME A ONE MINUTE, THE PODIUM'S NOT WORKING PROPERLY.

GOOD EVENING MUSIC, COMMISSIONER SILL, NOVIA HALL REP, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

WE ARE ACTUALLY HAVE AN OPEN APPLICATION PROCESS AGAIN FOR COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS TO ASSIST ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS. THIS WAS IMPORTANT TO COUNCIL FOR NOT ONLY TO ASSIST WITH CITY PROGRAMS, BUT WITH FEDERAL PROGRAMS. SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ONE-ON-ONE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WITH APPLICATIONS.

AGAIN, TRYING TO REMOVE BARRIERS, NOT EVERYBODY HAS DEALT WITH THE CITY SYSTEM, NOT EVERYBODY HAS APPLIED FOR A FEDERAL GRANT.

AND SO THESE NAVIGATORS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO HELP NOT ONLY WITH THIS PROGRAM, BUT WITH ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS COMING OUT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT APPLICATION HAS BEEN EXTENDED FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LISTENING, YOU HAVE UNTIL OCTOBER 29TH TO APPLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SYLVIA.

AND, UM, ALSO, I, I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, UM, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PORTION OF THIS IS KIND OF SUBSTITUTING FOR THE PEER PANEL OF REVIEWING IN A WAY, OR KIND OF, KIND OF HELPING TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT.

UM, UH, SINCE WE WERE MAKING THE, THE, THE APPLICATION VERY, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVE WITH THESE QUESTIONS, UM, IS IT GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT FOR PEOPLE TO, UM, HAVE THE ASSISTANCE OF A COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THIS STUFF IS, YOU KNOW, KOSHER OR IT IS NOT MANDATORY? AND I WANT TO SAY, THEY'RE NOT REPLACING THE PEER PANELS, THEY'RE THERE TO HELP, UH, WITH THE APPLICATION THAT THEN THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR WILL ADMINISTER AND EVALUATE, BUT THEY ARE STRICTLY THERE TO HELP.

AND IT'S SIMILAR TO THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM THAT THE SBA HAS.

SO THE CITY IS DOING ITS OWN VERSION.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YEAH, I GUESS JUST THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS THAT, UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE WAYS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S STILL LIKE A HUMAN ELEMENT IN THE, IN THE PROCESS WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THE APPLICATION.

SO OBJECTIVE, UH, ON SUCH A KIND OF SUBJECTIVE TOPIC.

MAYBE, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT, BUT

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YEAH.

UM, WELL, WHEN WE TALKED, IT WAS, IT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT YOU GUYS WERE AT ENSURING THAT THE OBJECTIVITY OF THE, OF THE, UM, APPLICATION, UM, WITH NOT HAVING REALLY SHORT ANSWER QUESTIONS, HAVING A LOT OF MULTIPLE CHOICE, THAT THERE WOULD BE STILL LIKE A, LIKE A HUMAN KIND OF MONITORING ELEMENT OF, OF THAT PROCESS.

YEAH.

AGAIN, IT'S A CUSTOMER SERVICE, UM, UH, TECHNICAL ASSISTANT THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED THROUGH ALL OF OUR COVID PROGRAMS. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHAT WE CALL DAN COMMUNITY CHAMPIONS ACTUALLY WENT TO SOMEONE'S HOUSE TO PULL TOGETHER RECEIPTS AND PUT ALL THE DOCUMENTATION TOGETHER.

AND IT'S THE SAME.

WHAT IF THE APPLICANT DOESN'T HAVE A COMPUTER, HOW DO WE ASSIST THEM? THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE QUESTION MEANS, ET CETERA.

SO AGAIN, IT'S JUST PURE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO HELP THEM GET THE APPLICATION.

AND I SEE.

YEAH.

AND THE, AND THE THIRD PART, THIRD PARTY ADMIN IS GOING TO BE HANDLING THE APPLICATION AND READING IT AND CHECKING TO SEE THE DETAILS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S THAT'S IN APPLICATION.

RIGHT.

YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO MISS ANYTHING.

SO AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF I'M FILLING OUT AN APPLICATION, SOMEBODY TO COME BACK AND CHECK TO MAKE SURE I CHECKED EVERY BOX, MAKE SURE THERE'S NOTHING MISSING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IT MAKES SENSE.

I GUESS, I, I GUESS I, UM, PUT SOMETHING ELSE TOGETHER IN MY MIND THAT MAYBE DIDN'T GO TOGETHER AND I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE ANY COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO WORK OR CONCERNS THAT I'M A LESS EXPERIENCED PROMOTER OR A MUSICIAN GROUP MIGHT BE STRUGGLING WITH THE PROCESS OR TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IN THE PROCESS, PLEASE STEP UP AND APPLY FOR THESE GRANTS SO THAT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, HELP THESE EMERGING ARTISTS NAVIGATE THIS PROCESS.

UM, THERE'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ROLE, UM, FOR MORE EXPERIENCED COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PLAY THROUGH THIS COMMUNITY NAVIGATOR PROGRAM.

AND I THINK IT CAN HELP, UM, SMOOTH OVER SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OR CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE PROGRAM CAN WORK.

LIKE YOU CAN HELP WITH THAT IN THE EARLY STAGES OF IT.

SO ANY, ANY THOUGHTS ON THE LIVE MUSIC, FUN APPLICATION? UM, I THINK ONE THING THAT, UM, THAT I LIKE TO SAY ABOUT IT, AND I THINK I'M VERY GRATEFUL AND APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS DONE IN THE WORK THAT EVERYONE'S DONE TO KIND OF, UM, GET THIS, UM, FUND OFF THE GROUND IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM END TO END FROM, FROM SOUP TO NUTS, IT REALLY IS ABOUT DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION.

AND IT'S, UM, IF YOU KNOW, THE MORE DIVERSITY YOU HAVE IN ANY POINT IN THAT SUPPLY CHAIN, THE MORE LIKELY YOU ARE TO GET FUNDED.

AND IT'S, IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, AND ALSO IF YOU, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE IN THERE, IF, IF YOU'RE, IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME, UM, PUTTING ON AN EVENT BY THE CITY, I BELIEVE THAT THAT, THAT MAY BE IN THERE.

UM, THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE MORE QUALIFIED AND IT'S, AND IT'S ALSO KIND OF SUPPOSED TO ENCOURAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD PRE COVID OR MAYBE EVEN BEFORE THAT.

SO, UM, I, I'M JUST, UM, UH, JUST, JUST THE WAY THAT WE'VE KIND OF KIND OF TAKEN THIS, THIS, THIS, UM, THESE RUBRICS AND, AND, AND THE FUND, AND KIND OF GOING THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS AND UNDERSTANDING IT ALL AND WORKING WITH ERICA.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST BEEN, UM, IT'S BEEN A VERY HUMBLING EXPERIENCE AND IT'S BEEN A VERY ENLIGHTENING EXPERIENCE AS WELL.

AND I'M IN SHOCK.

I JUST, I DO WANT TO SAY, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU WEREN'T LIKE THE ONLY PERSON INVOLVED, BUT OBVIOUSLY, BUT JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THAT.

I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.

SO, UM, I'LL ALSO, I KNOW, UH, PATRICK SPOKE ABOUT, UH, THE MONEY, THE $5,000 FLOOR.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, MY RESPONSE TO THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER COMMISSIONERS THOUGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE COLLABORATION COMES IN.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT ONLY COSTS A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE THAT, YOU KNOW, COLLABORATE WITH SOMEBODY ELSE, AND IT COULD BE A PART OF A SERIES, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE CREATIVE, YOU KNOW, UM, AND REALLY INNOVATE, DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO A NEW COMMUNITY, UM, OR JUST THINK BEYOND LIKE, YOU KNOW, JUST PLAYING ONE, ONE SHOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE OUT THERE TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE A VISION FOR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL

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I KNOW, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS MISSING IN THIS MUSIC SCENE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THIS, THIS FUNDING WILL START TO PLANT SEEDS FOR THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN NEEDED FOR A LONG TIME.

AND IT WILL CREATE, UM, YOU KNOW, CULTURE AND, AND ENCOURAGE NEW IDEAS.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE CITY NEEDS.

WE'VE BEEN DOING THINGS A CERTAIN WAY FOR A LONG TIME.

AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, FUNDING HASN'T REALLY BEEN IN THE HANDS OF MUSICIANS DIRECTLY.

JUST THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONE TO VENUES HAS GONE TO ORGANIZATIONS, NONPROFITS, BUT THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR, YOU KNOW, MUSICIANS OUT THERE TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE LEAD AND FROM, FROM THEIR CREATIVITY.

SO THOSE, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT MAKE ME EXCITED ABOUT THE FUN PERSONALLY.

I HAVE TO TURN THE CORNER.

YEAH.

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THIS IDEA ABOUT WHAT INDIVIDUALS CAN DO WHEN EVEN WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF MODERN MODERATE RESOURCES.

AND I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS WHOLE LMS FUN.

WE TALK ABOUT LEADING WITH EQUITY AND DIVERSITY.

AND I WAS RECENTLY LOOKING AT THE LATEST DEMOGRAPHICS IN THE CITY, AND WE HAVE ABOUT 33% HISPANIC POPULATION, ABOUT 7% BLACK, ALMOST 9% ASIAN AMERICAN.

THIS FUND ALSO COVERS OTHER INTERSECTIONALITIES, AND IT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY TODAY.

AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO BRING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO BROADER COMMUNITIES, TO ACTUALLY REFLECT THE POPULATION IN THIS TOWN.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 2.3 MILLION HERE, ROUGHLY, AND THERE ARE AROUND AT LEAST 8,000 MUSICIANS IN THIS TOWN AT 5,000 TO 10,000, AVERAGING IT OUT TO ABOUT 7.5 K.

WE ARE SERVING AROUND A LITTLE OVER 300 MUSICIANS.

THAT'S 3.8% OF THE MUSICIANS THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS TOWN IN THIS TOWN.

EVEN IF WE EXTRAPOLATE AND SAY, EACH OF THESE GRANTS SUPPORTS FOUR MUSICIANS, WE'LL GET TO ABOUT 15% THAT'S.

SO I THINK WE REALLY HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN PERSPECTIVE AS TO WHAT THIS FUND, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THIS FUND IS GOING TO COVER.

I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AROUND THIS NOT BEING BROADER PERHAPS THAN THE WAY IT'S BEEN DESIGNED AT THIS POINT OF TIME BECAUSE THE MUSIC ECONOMY, AND I BELIEVE OUR CONCERN HERE AS MUSIC COMMISSIONERS IS THE MUSIC ECONOMY.

AND THAT INCLUDES ALL STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN THIS ECONOMY.

SO IT INCLUDES MUSICIANS.

IT INCLUDES THE VENUES, IT INCLUDES THE MUSIC BUSINESS PROFESSIONALS.

IT INCLUDES THE FESTIVALS.

SOME OF THESE STAKEHOLDERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING THIS HOTEL TAX DOLLARS IN TO THE PICTURE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND THIS FUND AT THIS POINT OF TIME DOES NOT COVER MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.

AND I RECOGNIZE THAT, AND, BUT WE ARE ALSO KIND OF LIVING THROUGH A CERTAIN TIME OF CHANGE AND ALSO EXTENUATING SITUATIONS, INCLUDING THE LAST TWO YEARS OF LIVING THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC.

AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, AND NOT REALLY A PINPOINT ON ONE PARTICULAR STAKEHOLDER, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN, THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER FUNDS OR GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE TO SOME OF THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN THE PICTURE THAT HAVE BEEN DIRECT GRANTS TO THOSE STAKEHOLDERS.

AND THE IDEA IS RIGHT NOW IS TO JUST SEE HOW CAN WE, AND IT IS IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT, BUT IT IS 15% OR REALLY 3.8 OR LESS THAN 4% OF DIRECT GRANTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT HOW DO WE MAXIMIZE, HOW DO WE MAXIMIZE THE BENEFIT OUT OF THESE, OUT OF THESE FUNDS? SO, AND, AND ALSO REALLY BE OPEN TO THE IDEA THAT THIS CAN EVOLVE OVER THE YEARS.

THIS CRITERIA IS NOT, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT SETS A CERTAIN PRECEDENT, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SET IN STONE AS IN THAT IT CANNOT EVOLVE, ESPECIALLY IF IT GOES TO A THIRD PARTY AND THEY CAN GROW THE FUND THAN THE IDEA THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW,

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UM, AND SO I DO SUPPORT THE, THE CORE PRINCIPLE OF HOW THIS HAS BEEN DESIGNED AND SIMPLY BECAUSE ALSO NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE DEI ASPECT, BUT THAT IT REFLECTS THE TRUE DEMOCRACY FIX OF THE CITY.

UM, I THINK, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

UM, I PERSONALLY AM OPEN TO THE IDEA OF JUST SPENDING JUST A TAD MORE TIME IF IT NEEDS TO BE RELOOKED AT, AND IF THAT IS WHAT THE COMMISSION COLLECTIVELY WANTS TO DO, I WOULD BE OPEN TO THE IDEA.

I DO COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE IDEA OF SEPARATING OUT THE DISASTER RELIEF FUND.

THERE'S NO REASON TO HOLD THAT.

AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE ADMINISTERED FORWARD BY THE EDD AND I'M COMPLETELY IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

UM, SO YEAH, I, I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT THE IDEA OF THIS BEING PUT YOU, IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, BRINGING IN TOURISM, UM, NEW PEOPLE WILL BRING NEW IDEAS AND, AND, AND, AND I THINK FOR THAT REASON AS WELL, BRINGING NEW ARTISTS AND NEW STAKEHOLDERS INTO THE FOLD IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, AND, AND BROADLY, LIKE I SAID, IF NOT THIS ROUND, AND THERE ARE, THERE IS INDIRECT BENEFIT TO OTHER STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL THROUGH THIS MIX.

IT'S NOT LIKE IT DOESN'T SERVE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, BUT, BUT I DO, I DO, I WILL, I WILL END WITH THIS, THAT, YES, IT IS.

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US TO GIVE THEM THE DUE DILIGENCE, EVEN IF IT TAKES A LITTLE TIME, BECAUSE THESE ARE LIMITED FUNDS.

SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAXIMIZE IT, ESSENTIALLY.

UH, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

ANYBODY ELSE, ANYBODY ELSE DON'T ALLOW ME TO FIND ANOTHER THING THAT I'VE HEARD IN THE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, I HADN'T HEARD THE FLOOR YET, BUT SOME PEOPLE THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, $10,000, ISN'T ENOUGH FOR AN EVENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT MAY BE TRUE FOR YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PUTTING ON A FESTIVAL OR WHATEVER, BUT THIS CAN BE A COMPONENT OF YOUR BUDGET.

THIS IS NOT THE END ALL BE ALL.

UM, THIS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, BRINGING IN A SPECIFIC HEADLINER OR, UH, ADDING SOME NEXT LEVEL OF PRODUCTION TO SOMETHING.

THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE YOUR ENTIRE, YOU KNOW, BUDGET FOR YOUR EVENT.

SO THIS IS NOT MEANT TO SAY, HEY, YOU ONLY HAVE 10,000.

YOU CAN, AS A, AS A CREATIVE, AS AN ENTREPRENEUR, AS SOMEONE THAT'S PUTTING ON A VAN, A PROMOTER, YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF YOUR BUDGET THIS WILL SUPPORT, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I THINK THE COMMUNITY NAVIGATORS CAN, YOU KNOW, HELP PEOPLE FIGURE OUT.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I ALSO WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC TOO, CAUSE I HEARD THAT TYPE OF CONVERSATION.

WELL, I CAN'T PUT ON AN EVENT FOR 10,000.

WHO CAN, YOU KNOW, WHO CAN DO THAT? WELL, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

YOU KNOW, UH, FIND A SPONSOR, UM, FIND ANOTHER GRANT OR, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH SOMEONE ELSE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST BE CREATIVE WITH THIS.

UM, LIKE NOT KNOCK ABOUT IT.

IT WAS SAYING THAT, UM, THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR, UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, CODY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MONEY NOT BEING REPLENISHED OR BEING REALLY BACK UP TO WHAT IT WAS IN THREE YEARS.

BUT, UM, THAT IS ALSO A CONCERN.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK STARTING HERE AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENS FROM THE FIRST ROUND, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD NOT NECESSARILY FAST-FORWARD, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT AND TALKING ABOUT IT AND TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK GIVING IT A SHOT AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS TYPE OF OPPORTUNITY CREATES IN AUSTIN IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE.

DID, DID HAVE ONE SHORT THING TO ADD.

UM, JUST IT'S BEEN ON MY HEART AND MIND TODAY WHEN I THANK THE WORKING GROUP FOR WORKING QUICKLY AND GETTING THAT DONE AND BEING SO SPECIFIC.

CAUSE I WAS REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT IT.

WE WERE ALL FRUSTRATED AT THE END OF OUR LAST MEETING, I THINK, OR TO AN EXTENT DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO DIFFERENT LEVELS.

BUT THE PART THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, IN REGARD TO SEPARATING THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND THE EMERGENCY RELIEF, UM, MONIES, I THINK IS ALSO AN ELEMENT OF LEADING WITH EQUITY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EQUITY, WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO DO NOT HAVE THE PRIVILEGE THAT WE DO THAT ARE, HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A LONG TIME.

AND THERE ARE PEOPLE OF MANY COLORS, MANY BACKGROUNDS, UM, AND, UH, THE URGENCY, UH, IT CALLS FOR US AND LEADING WITH EQUITY AND OUR COMMITMENT TO DO THAT, TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO FUNDS IN ORDER FOR US

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LAUREN, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD? I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD SEGUE.

DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT, UM, THE SECOND PART OF WHAT THE WORKING GROUP TALK ABOUT, WHICH IS, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AD DISASTER RELIEF FUND ADMINISTRATION? UM, YES, THAT WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANTED TO, UM, SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME WITH THIS WAS BECAUSE I I'VE, I FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT SEPARATING THOSE TWO FUNDS AND, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO, UM, WE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT AT ALL FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE Y'ALL WILL BE MORE SPECIFIC, BUT SO NO, THE HAUTE RAB AGAIN.

YES.

WE HEARD THE COMMISSION AND WE HEARD THE WORKING GROUPS.

SO WE ARE WORKING AS FAST AS WE CAN TO DEPLOY THE AUSTIN MUSIC DISASTER RELIEF FUND TO GET CHECKS OUT BEFORE DECEMBER.

YES.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY APPRECIATED.

SO, UM, THEN THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, DETAILED ABOUT OUR RFP PROCESS FOR THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE, UM, FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, WHICH IS ANOTHER THING WE WORKED ON IN OUR WORKING GROUP.

AND, AND CHARLOTTE, DID YOU WANT TO, YEAH, SO I'LL GO OVER OUR, UM, I'LL JUST HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THOSE, FOR THE RFP PROCESS.

AGAIN, THIS, UH, STAFF SUPPLIED A LOT OF INFORMATION TO US ABOUT, UH, WHAT WOULD BE IN THE RFP.

AND SO THIS ALIGNS FOLLOWS ALONG WITH, UM, DIRECTIONS IN THAT.

SO I WILL JUST GET, I'LL JUST ROLL RIGHT INTO IT.

SO WE RECOMMEND THAT, UM, THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT HOLDS PUBLIC PRE-CONFERENCE MEETINGS OR ONE MEETING WHICHEVER IS APPROPRIATE SO THAT, UM, BITTERS CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS IN A PUBLIC MEETING.

UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST PARTLY TRANSPARENCY.

SO WE KNOW WHO'S OUT THERE BIDDING.

UM, WE WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT RECOMMEND OR REQUIRE EACH BITTERS PACKAGE TO INCLUDE A PUBLIC INFORMATION PACKAGE.

SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY JUST BE LIKE A PDF DOCUMENT.

THAT'S AN ABBREVIATED VERSION OF THEIR PROPOSAL, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT STRIPS AWAY A LOT OF THE, THE MORE GRANULAR MATHEMATICAL DETAIL, BUT IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF.

UM, AND WE RECOMMEND THAT THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR AT HAE EVALUATE APPLICATIONS, ACCORDING TO THE LIVE MUSIC EVENT, PROGRAM GUIDELINES EXACTLY AS DEVELOPED AND PRESENTED IN PUBLIC MEETINGS TO THE MUSIC COMMISSION.

SO IN ESSENCE, THE THIRD PARTY WOULD NOT ALTER THE GUIDELINES.

UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, THESE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE WE'VE DEBATED AND DISCUSSED PUBLICLY WITH TRANSPARENCY.

SO WE DON'T WANT THINGS TO CHANGE AFTER THEY LEAVE A MORE PUBLIC FORUM.

UM, AND FOR TERMS OF CONTRACT, UM, THE RFP STATES THAT THE CONTRACT SO SHALL CONSIST OF A 12 MONTH TERM AND A ONE MONTH OR NOW ONE 12 MONTH EXTENSION, THE WORKING GROUP RECOMMENDS THAT IF THE CONTRACT IS EXTENDED, THAT THAT COME WITH THAT COME BEFORE THE MUSIC COMMISSION SO THAT WE CAN GIVE SOME OVERSIGHT ON THAT.

AND AGAIN, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THIRD-PARTY ADMINISTRATOR HAS, HAS PROVEN THAT THEY'VE SERVED THE COMMUNITY WELL, AND THEN SOME SCORING THINGS.

UM, MOST OF THIS IS JUST KIND OF EXPANDING ON THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY DETAILED IN THE SCORING RUBRIC.

UM, BUT WE WOULD LIKE BITTERS TO DESCRIBE A MECHANISM FOR TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTING.

SO THEY'RE VERY CLEAR ABOUT AN UPFRONT ABOUT THE FEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE.

UM, THEY WOULD DESCRIBE THEIR CAPACITY FOR EVALUATING, UM, THE LIVE MUSIC EVENT FUND PROGRAM, GRANT APPLICATIONS, AND HOW THEY WOULD DO THAT.

AND A FAIR WAY, HOW THEY WOULD GO DO THAT EXPEDITION, EXPEDITION, LOOSE EXPEDITIOUSLY AND IN A HOLISTIC MANNER.

AND WE FEEL LIKE THE QUESTIONS, UM, THAT THE WORKING GROUP DEVELOPED THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL LAYER OF, UM, INQUIRY WILL AID IN THAT, UM, HOLISTIC EVALUATION.

UM, THE BITTERS SHOULD DESCRIBE AND NARRATIVE FORM THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO AN EXPERTISE IN THE AUSTIN MUSIC INDUSTRY.

WE WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF THIS THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR

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UM, THEY'LL DESCRIBE A PROCESS BY WHICH, UM, APPLICATIONS WOULD BE APPLICANTS WOULD BE VETTED BY PROFESSIONALS WITH A DEEP KNOWLEDGE OF THE AUSTIN MUSIC INDUSTRY.

SO THOSE TWO THINGS JUST KIND OF GO TOGETHER.

AND LASTLY, WE WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TO BE AS AN OPTIONAL PART OF THE RFP, THE BITTERS MAY SUBMIT A WELL-DEFINED PLAN TO REDUCE OUR MINISTRY, ELIMINATE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES AND PRODUCE FUND GROWTH THROUGH PRIVATE GIVING.

I THINK, UM, AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW IT MAY BE TOO SOON AND TOO EARLY TO INCORPORATE THIS IDEA OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS OR GROWING THE FUND.

BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW IF THERE ARE BITTERS OUT THERE THAT DO HAVE THAT CAPABILITY.

SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A REQUIREMENT FOR WINNING THE BID.

UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE CITY CAN ASK BITTERS TO DESCRIBE THAT CAPACITY IF THEY HAVE IT.

AND, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY HAS DONE.

THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT FOR ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

SO, UM, AGAIN, AS WE'VE ALL STATED, THE HOT FUNDS ARE NOT, IT'S A SMALL, IT'S A SMALL BUCKET.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE ARE THERE ENTITIES OUT THERE THAT HAVE A PLAN OR CAPACITY FOR GROWING THAT FUND.

SO THAT'S, I GOT THE BORING PART OF THIS, BUT YEAH, SO THAT'S OUR THREE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER.

WE HAVE THESE MORE HOLISTIC QUESTIONS TO INCLUDE FOR APPLICANTS.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SEPARATE, UM, THE DISASTER RELIEF FUNDING AND MINISTRY STATION FROM THE LIVE MUSIC FUND ADMINISTRATION.

AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THE RFP, HAVE THESE COMPONENTS FOR MORE, MORE TRANSPARENCY, UM, CLEAR ROUTES AND PROFESSIONALISM IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AND AN OPTIONAL, UM, WAY TO INDICATE IF THEY HAVE CAPACITY TO GROW THE FUND.

SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, THE ONE THING THAT, UM, MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT ONE, I MEAN, ONE THING THAT I WOULD SAY IS, UM, IF WE CAN THREAD THIS SO THAT THIS IS LIKE, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION HERE, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TO, UM, UH, WHETHER IT'S A NORMAL RFP PROCESS OR WHETHER WE'RE DOING IT UNDER SECTION, WHAT IS IT 2 53, WHICH IS LIKE SOME KIND OF EMERGENCY AUTHORIZATION OR SELECTING CONTRACTORS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF YEAH, THAT'S A NO, THAT'S A SYNOVIA QUESTION.

AND FOR THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHAT I WILL DO IS TAKE THESE BACK AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH OUR PROCUREMENT OFFICER AND THE LAW DEPARTMENT TO SEE HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE SOME OF THESE, DEPENDING ON THE LAW.

EVERYTHING HAS TO BE WRITTEN, YOU KNOW, IN CONTEXT WITH OUR LEGAL FRAMEWORK.

SO I WILL DISCUSS THIS WITH, UM, PURCHASING.

YEAH.

SO WE DO APPRECIATE YOU PROVIDING THOSE MATERIALS TO US.