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ONE MINUTE.

OKAY.

HELLO AND WELCOME

[Call to Order]

TO TONIGHT'S ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

AND NOW THAT WE HAVE SIX COMMISSIONERS ON THE DIET, WE CAN START.

IT IS OCTOBER 5TH AND THE TIME IS, AND I CAN'T EVEN SEE WITH ALL THIS, BUT IT IS WHATEVER THE TIME IS.

SIX OH SIX, SIX OH SIX.

AND I'LL FIRST CALL ROLL COMMISSIONER ACOSTA, TEAR BARRERA RAMIREZ, PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER BRAY, PRESENT COMMISSIONER DANCLER HERE.

COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, COMMISSIONER KING HERE.

UH, COMMISSIONER KOBASA THAT'S ME.

AND I'M HERE.

COMMISSIONER RAY, COMMISSIONER SMITH HERE.

COMMISSIONER THOMPSON HERE AND COMMISSIONER WOODY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN I WILL READ THE AGENDA AND, UM, THE AGENDA IS A ONE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2021 B ONE IS REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DESK 0 1 1 9 DASH MCKEITH 1.48 DISTRICT TWO.

AND THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR A POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 19TH, B TO REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 3 6 DASH 2 6 0 9 AND 2 6 1 1 DAVIS LANE, LOTS ONE AND TWO CHARLES HOFFMAN SUBDIVISION, DISTRICT FIVE.

AND THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM, B3 C 14 DASH 2021.

REESE TRACK DISTRICT FIVE.

AND THAT IS ALSO A DISCUSSION ITEM.

AND THAT IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA FOR TONIGHT? UM, NO.

OH, YES.

ON THE FINAL ON THE AGENDA THAT WE RECEIVED.

SO IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? NO INFORMATION.

DID WE GET MINUTES?

[A. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

OKAY.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONER KING, WHO IS SECRETARY AND ALWAYS METICULOUSLY GOES OVER THE MINUTES.

YES.

AND I JUST FOUND ONE LITTLE SPELLING ERROR THAT, UH, ON THE LAST PAGE, UH, UH, UH, REGARDING COMMITTEE REPORTS, THE WORD COMMITTEE IS MISSPELLED.

IT SAYS COMMITTED.

SO, UH, THAT'S ALL SPELLING ISSUE THERE.

THAT'S IT? OTHERWISE THEY LOOK GOOD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR DILIGENCE COMMISSIONER KING.

AND SO, UM, THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT, THE CONSENT AGENDA IS A ONE THE MINUTES AND THEN B ONE FOR THE POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 19 AND THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED.

SO WE'RE NOT ALL COMMITTED.

ALL THOSE IN THERE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE YES, TARA, I'M SORRY.

I JUST WANTED TO THERE IS ANOTHER WORD IN EXTRA WORD IN THAT SAME SENTENCE AND IT'S JUST AN, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED THE COMMITTEE ELECTED BERRERA RAMIREZ CHAIR.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED AND APPROVE THE POST BOMA FOR ITEM B ONE TO OCTOBER 19TH.

OKAY.

AND THAT WAS THE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER THOMPSON.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.

AND I SEE ALSO, AND COMMISSIONER WHAT HE HAS JOINED US.

I JUST WANT TO REFLECT THAT TOO.

OKAY, GREAT.

NOW WE ARE ONTO B TWO

[B.2. Rezoning: C14-2021-0136 - 2609 and 2611 Davis Lane, Lots 1 and 2, Charles Hoffman Subdivision; District 5]

AND THE CASE MANAGER IS WENDY RHODES.

WENDY, ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSION MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS WENDY BROS WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UH, THIS ZONING CASE CONCERNS TO PLANTED LOTS ON DAVIS LANE.

THE SOUTH SIDE OF DAVIS LAND BETWEEN LEO STREET AND CALLING WOULD DRIVE.

IT IS ZONED SINGLE FAMILY.

TWO.

THERE IS ONE SINGLE FAMILY ON THE, UH, WEST LOT AND THE EAST SLOT IS NOT DEVELOPED.

UH, THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS ON AN UNDEVELOPED TRACK TO THE NORTH, THE SOUTH, UH, THAT ALSO HAS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND A TWO FAMILY ON LARGE LOTS.

AND THERE ARE A SINGLE FAMILY ON LARGE, LOTS TO THE EAST THAT ARE ZONED AS F1.

AND THEN TO THE WEST, THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY

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RESIDENCES IN TWO MANUAL TO MANUFACTURED HOUSING HOUSES.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE SFC DISTRICT.

UH, THEY WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A TWO FAMILY RESIDENCE ON EACH LOT.

AND THE TWO FAMILY RESIDENTS IS ONE SINGLE FAMILY AND, UH, ONE, UH, A SMALLER DETACHED UNIT, UH, THAT'S CALLED A TWO FAMILY RESIDENCE.

AND THAT IS LIMITED TO TWO STORIES OR 30 FEET IN HEIGHT AND 550 SQUARE FEET.

ON A SECOND STORY, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE ZONING CHANGE.

UH, WE BELIEVE THAT, UH, W W AND THIS ZONING CHANGE WOULD ALLOW FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR U FOUR RESIDENCES ON TWO LOTS.

UH, THIS TRACT, THESE LOTS MEET THE INTENT OF THE SF THREE DISTRICTS.

THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL SECTION OF DAVIS LANE, AND IT IS LOCATED WITHIN AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE, AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME, UH, INTERESTED RESIDENTS AS WELL.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND NOW, UM, THE APPLICANT IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, AND THAT WOULD BE TIM, WHAT WEIGHTLIFT AND MR. WHITLAM, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES.

THANKS COMMISSIONERS.

UM, I'M JIM WHITLAM ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND I PUT A LITTLE EXHIBIT TOGETHER AND I DID THIS BECAUSE, UH, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, UH, CALLED AND HE WAS VERY ARTICULATE IN HIS CONCERNS.

AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HIS CONCERNS ARE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED.

SO WHAT I DID ON THIS EXHIBIT, THIS IS OFF THE CITY'S GIS WEBSITE.

I ENHANCED THE PROPERTY, IT'S IN A RED BOX, AND THEN I'VE GOT SOME BLUE LINES ON THERE.

THE, OUR BLUE LINE AND THAT BLUE LINE IS THE 806 FOOT CONTOUR.

AND THEN THE RED SQUIGGLY LINE IS 804 FOOT CONTOUR.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE YELLOW ARROWS, THE WATER KIND OF GOES OUT TOWARDS DAVIS LANE AND IT GOES TO THE WEST, BUT IT GOES, IT'S SO FLAT.

LIKE THE CITY CODE WOULD REQUIRE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE DOING A DRAINAGE DITCH, UH, WITH A NATURAL EARTH IN BOTTOM, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A 2% MINIMUM SLOPE.

AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN THE MINIMUM SLOPE, WHICH IS WHY THERE'S, UH, IN MY OPINION, NUISANCE FLOODING THAT OCCURS ON THESE PROPERTIES.

SO, UH, WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AND YOU SEE IN GREEN, UH, RIGHT UP BY THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, THERE'S A LITTLE GREEN SQUARE, UH, AT THE CORNER OF DAVIS LANE.

AND, UH, THAT GREEN SQUARE REPRESENTS, UH, A DRAINAGE INLET.

AND THEN THE GREEN LINE THAT RUNS OFF TO THE LEFT OF THE PAGE, THE TOP LEFT CORNER, THAT'S THE DRAINAGE PIPE.

SO OUR PLAN ON THIS PROPERTY IS TO ADD SOME FILL TO THE PROPERTY AND DRAIN THIS PROPERTY OUT TOWARDS DATE DAVIS LANE, SO THAT IT CAN RUN INTO THE INLET AND INTO THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

WE DON'T WANT TO DUMP THIS WATER ONTO THE NEIGHBORS, UH, TO THE WEST BECAUSE, UH, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE MOSTLY ELDERLY AND THEY'VE HAD SOME NUISANCE FLOODING IN THE PAST, AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO EXASPERATE THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HERE.

HE MET ONSITE THIS PAST WEEK WITH THE CONCERN NEIGHBOR AND THEY WALKED THE SITE TOGETHER AND APPARENTLY HAD A GOOD MEETING.

AND SO I'M GOING TO LET HIM TAKE IT FROM HERE, BUT WE THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR SF THREE ZONING.

I KNOW COMMISSIONER DAN CLAIRE SUGGESTED TO ME, MAYBE WE COULD DO AN ADDITIONAL SETBACK TO THE WEST, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE NECESSARY OR EVEN DESIRABLE.

THESE ARE, THESE ARE UNBELIEVABLY EXPENSIVE PROPERTIES.

UH, I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I HEARD HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH THE BUY BUY PRICE WAS FOR THIS.

AND, UH, WE WOULD RATHER USE THE PROPERTY EFFICIENTLY AND JUST GRADE IT PROFESSIONALLY OUT TOWARDS THE STREET AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO SAVE THE NEIGHBORS FROM ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE HARDSHIPS.

AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND THEN NEXT, UH, SIGNED UP IS JEFFREY DAVIS.

AND LET ME SEE, DID YOU SIGN UP? OH, ARE YOU THE, OKAY, SO, UM, AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M JEFFREY DAVIS HAD BEEN DEVELOPING HERE AND IN THE BANKING INDUSTRY HERE IN AUSTIN FOR OVER 20 YEARS, UH, THE INTENTION, UH, ON THE PROPERTY IS FOR US TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DRAIN IS, ISSUES ARE.

UH,

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WE CAN DO SOME LANDSCAPING, THINGS THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO MAINTAINING THE WATER ONSITE.

UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE PARTICULAR OPPORTUNITIES.

WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GRADING SO THAT THE WATER GOES TO THE STREET AND GETS TO THE INLET.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'M A NATIVE AUSTIN.

I, MY DAD RETIRED OUT OF BERGSTROM.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE TEND TO TRY TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

SO WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO ACCOMMODATE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING CLOSE TO US, WE'LL DEFINITELY DO THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THEN NEXT, UH, SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

UM, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS SIGNED UP, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR AND IF NOT, UM, THEN WE'LL GO TO THE OPPOSITION AND DAN SANTOS.

AM I PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME CORRECTLY? AND YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES.

IS THAT CORRECT? ANDREW? FIVE MINUTES.

OKAY.

SOMEHOW THAT SHORTER.

OKAY.

THANKS.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS DAN SANTAS.

UH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER COME TO SUCH A HEARING.

UM, I WAS CERTAINLY MOTIVATED TO COME OUT AND SAY A FEW WORDS.

I LIVE AT 87 0 5 COLLINGWOOD DRIVE.

AND WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE 12 YEARS AGO, IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE LARGE LOTS.

AND SOMEBODY HAD THE FORESIGHT TO DEVELOP THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LARGE LOTS, AND THEN INDIVIDUALS LIKE ME TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THE HOMES.

AND SO THEN TIME PASSES AND PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FROM WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT DEVELOPERS LOOKING FOR A WAY TO BUILD INTO PROFIT, UM, WANT TO CHANGE THE ZONING.

UM, ALSO IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY MS. WINDY ROADS, AND I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHY IT'S BEEN APPROVED.

UM, MAYBE THE CITY HAS SOME, SOME GUIDELINES.

UM, ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT'S GOING TO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I FOUND IT INTERESTING THAT IN THE ZONING LETTER, IT SAYS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD FOUR UNITS ON TWO LOTS, AND YET IT WILL MAINTAIN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE CHARACTERISTICS.

AND I'M KIND OF LIKE, I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

DOES IT MEAN IT WILL HAVE ROOFS AND THERE'LL BE DOORS BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO FEEL LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON A LARGE LOT AFTER FOUR UNITS HAVE BEEN BUILT.

MY OTHER CONCERN IS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO ZONING CHANGES, THINGS DON'T HAPPEN INSTANTLY.

THEY HAPPEN GRADUALLY OVER TIME, AND THERE'S ALREADY BEEN ONE ZONING CHANGED THAT WAS PERMITTED SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY.

AND I FEAR THAT ALL OF THESE LARGE LOTS ALIGN DAVID'S LANE COULD ULTIMATELY BE THE SITE OF DEVELOPERS WHO ARE SEEKING TO GO IN AND PERHAPS EVEN TEAR DOWN EXISTING HOMES AND BILL MULTIPLE HOMES ON ONE LARGE LOT.

UM, IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, LIKE MANY PEOPLE HERE AND PROBABLY KIND OF TIRED, BUT I'M HERE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT EVEN THOUGH MY PROPERTY ISN'T NEXT DOOR TO THIS LOT, THAT IT WILL CHANGE THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVERALL.

SO I'M COMING JUST TO SAY, I HOPE THAT, UH, YOU'LL GIVE THIS SOME CONSIDERATION AND MAYBE NOT AUTHORIZE ITS OWN.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NEXT TO SPEAK IS ANDRE FOGEY AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, LIKE THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER, UH, I'VE NEVER DONE ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE, SO I AM COMING AS, UM, A CONCERNED CITIZEN.

SO I ACTUALLY AM A NEIGHBOR TO THIS PROPERTY.

I LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND IT ON 8, 6, 0 6 COLLINGWOOD DRIVE.

UM, I'M A FATHER.

I HAVE TWO YOUNG CHILDREN UNDER THREE YEARS OLD.

ONE OF THEM WAS SPECIAL NEEDS, AND I TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE INTEGRITY AND MAINTAINING THE CULTURE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE DECIDED TO START OUR FAMILY IN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

UM, IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CASTLE WOOD FOREST, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT BEHIND THIS PROPERTY, THERE'S RICH HISTORY.

MY NEIGHBOR JOHN HAS LIVED THERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

MY NEIGHBOR JESSE HAS LIVED THERE FOR OVER 25 YEARS.

THEY'VE RAISED THEIR FAMILIES THERE.

UM, AND PEOPLE WHO MOVED THERE, MOVE THERE WITH THE INTENTION OF CREATING A LIFE AND INVESTING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY AND BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BEING RELATIVELY

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NEW.

WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, UM, ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

UM, WE BOUGHT IT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAINTAIN THAT SENSE OF PRIVACY, THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

UM, DURING THE FREEZE THAT HAPPENED EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE SAW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RALLY TOGETHER AND ASSIST ONE ANOTHER.

WHEN PEOPLE LOST POWER, WHEN PEOPLE WERE SHORT ON FOOD AND THE IDEA OF HAVING, UM, A RENTAL COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME LEVEL OF INVESTMENT IN TAKING CARE OF THEIR NEIGHBORS, UH, IS CONCERNING IT DETRACTS FROM THE REASON WHY OUR INTENTION, WHY WE DECIDED TO MOVE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO ON ONE HAND, I COMPLETELY HEAR AND RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MIGHT BE A CONSIDERATION TOWARDS WHY A REZONING MIGHT POSITIVELY IMPACT A POTENTIAL FLOODING ISSUE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED IN THE TIME WE'VE LIVED IN THAT PROPERTY.

WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED ANY TYPE OF NEGATIVE IMPACT FROM THE ZONING DUE TO FLOODING.

UM, I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED AND HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS AS THE PREVIOUS, UM, CITIZEN AROUND, UM, THE AMBIGUITY OF THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY.

WHY ARE THERE GOING IF THIS IS GOING TO BE STILL ZONED AS A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY, BUT THEN THERE'S FOUR UNITS THERE.

THAT'S KIND OF CONFUSING TO ME.

AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD DIRECTLY IMPACT, UM, MY FAMILY, UH, WE'VE SEEN JUST IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, THE CHANGES IN THE PROPERTY AS THEY'VE BEEN CLEANING OUT THE SHRUBS AND THE BUSHES AND GET EVERYTHING READY FOR REDEVELOPMENT, ALL OF THAT SENSE OF PRIVACY AND THE APPEAL FOR THE NATURE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ON OUR PROPERTY, AT LEAST AS IT DIRECTLY LOOKS, WHEN WE WALK OUTSIDE IN THE BACKYARD, IT'S GONE AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT TO BECOME A CONSTRUCTION ZONE.

SO I, I, I KNOW I'M UP ON TIME, BUT I'M JUST SPEAKING AGAIN AS A, UM, CONCERNED MEMBER OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOMEBODY THAT'S INVESTED IN THE LONG-TERM FOR WHERE IT'S HEADED.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU TO, UM, MR. SAUNAS ALSO FOR COMING DOWN HERE.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAD, HAD SIGNED UP SINCE THEN? SO THEN MR. WHITLAM, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO REBUT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

UM, I, I THINK THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO SAY IS THAT, UM, AS A FATHER, MYSELF AND SOMEBODY, I'M NOT A NATIVE AUSTINITE, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 38 YEARS.

UH, I CAME TO AUSTIN, IT WAS AN AFFORDABLE TOWN.

AND, UH, BACK THEN YOUNG PEOPLE, IT WAS INTERESTING.

UM, THEY, IF THEY GOT A DEGREE, THEY WERE WORRIED, WELL, W WE CAN'T STAY IN AUSTIN AND AREN'T MANY JOBS IN AUSTIN.

THAT'S KINDA NOT THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING TODAY.

TODAY.

THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING IS THAT WHO CAN AFFORD A 500, 600, $800,000 HOME? UH, I KNOW MY KIDS WHO ARE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL, CAN'T BUY A HOME IN AUSTIN.

AND, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT THE VALUE OF THIS LAND, JUST THE TAXABLE VALUE OF THE LAND, FORGET ABOUT, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ON IT OR WILL BE ON IT.

IT'S GOING TO BE OVER $600 A MONTH JUST FOR THE TAXES FOR THE LAND.

A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD THE HIGH TAXES.

YOU KNOW, A $500,000 PIECE OF DIRT IS REALLY EXPENSIVE LAND.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, UH, DO ANYTHING THAT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I KNOW THERE'S SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHAT SINGLE FAMILY MEANS, BUT SINGLE FAMILY MEANS THE, UH, COMMUNITY OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, DUPLEXES, TWO FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED AND , AND FOUR B THERE'S A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY, UH, AND IT WILL BE SINGLE FAMILY.

THEY WON'T BE RENTAL UNITS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOLD.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE QUALITY DEVELOPERS.

I WOULDN'T BE WORKING WITH THEM IF I DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE TOP QUALITY.

AND, UH, I, I URGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS SO THAT THERE'S CAN BE PEOPLE IN AUSTIN THAT CAN BUY A HOME.

THAT'S AFFORDABLE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NOW, IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND A DISCUSSION AND MOTIONS? WHATEVER.

OKAY.

SECOND.

OKAY.

MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DANGLER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SMITH.

AND I WILL ALTERNATE LOOKING UP AT THE DIOCESE AND I WILL GO AND DOWN AND ACTUALLY

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I'VE GOT A POINT OF INFORMATION.

YES.

SO, AND I'M SORRY, I'M THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS.

I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE, I DIDN'T LOOK AT THIS BEFORE THE MEETING, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT WAS.

MY PARENTS ACTUALLY LIVE LIKE ON CALLING WHAT DRIVE LIKE A HALF A MILE AWAY FROM THERE, OR JUST LIKE, IF I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF ON A CASE LIKE THIS, AND WOULD THAT AFFECT QUORUM CHAIR, COMMISSION LIAISON, ANDREW VERA.

THAT WOULD BE THE PREROGATIVE OF THE COACH AT MISSIONER.

UM, YOU CAN CONSIDER ABSTAINING ON THE ITEM.

IT WILL NOT AFFECT QUORUM.

YEAH.

THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

ABSTENTION ONTO THE VOTE WON'T AFFECT THE QUORUM RECUSING WOULD, BUT WHAT WOULD THE, WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD CITY LEGAL REQUIRE OR, UM, I, MY UNDERSTANDING IS FINANCIAL, BUT I DON'T WANT TO, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LAYS ON EVER.

SO IF THE MEMBER IS OR CHOOSING, UM, SHOULD THE MEMBER MUST FOLLOW AN AFFIDAVIT.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO BEGIN WITH THAT.

UM, AS FAR AS THE PARAMETERS, I WOULD HAVE TO CONFER WITH THE LEGAL AND, UM, I CAN'T DO SO AT THIS TIME, MAYBE WE SHOULD POSTPONE THIS CASE.

AND, UM, IS THERE VERY WELL, I'LL SAY I'D RATHER DO THIS RIGHT THEN LIKE DO SOMETHING REALLY.

I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, AND IT WAS REALLY NICE WHEN SOMEBODY FROM CITY LEGAL WOULD ACTUALLY BABYSIT US.

OH, I KNOW THE BORDER.

AND I LEARNED THAT SUSPENSE, EVERYTHING.

UM, IS IT POSSIBLE JUST TO CALL LEGAL AND ASK WHAT'S NEEDED FOR A RECUSAL, UM, OR HA UH, HADN'T HAD THEM SPEAK WITH MR. BRAY.

COULD WE SAY, TAKE A, UM, 10 MINUTE, UM, TABLE THIS AND BRING IT BACK LATER.

B3, IS THAT POSSIBLE, ANDREW OR CHECKING MICHELLE HE'S ON EVER YESTERDAY.

IF WE WISH TO TABLE THIS ITEM, UM, WE CAN, UM, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN, UM, GET BACK WITH THE COMMISSION.

OKAY.

WELL, IS THERE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM MOTION BY COMMISSIONER DANGLER, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY IS VOTING IN FAVOR EXCEPT FOR THE ONE ABSTENTION.

SO FROM COMMISSIONER BRAY.

AND SO WE ARE TABLING THIS AND, UM, THERE WILL BE A CALL PUT INTO CITY LEGAL.

SO NOW WE WILL GO TO OUR NEXT, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS B3.

[B.3. Zoning: C14-2021-0122 - Rees Tract; District 5]

AND WELCOME BACK AGAIN AGAIN, MY NAME IS WENDY RHODES WITH THE, UH, HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS CASEY 14, 20 21 0 1 22, KNOWN AS THE REESE TRACT.

IT HAS A ADDRESS OF 1 0, 2, 2 1 DAVID MOORE DRIVE.

THIS IS 6.325 ACRES.

IT'S AN UNPLANTED TRACK THAT CONTAINS TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, AND IT TAKES US DIRECT ACCESS TO DAVID MOORE DRIVE, WHICH ALONG THIS PROPERTY FRONTAGE EXISTS AS AN UNPAVED DRIVEWAY.

THERE IS A 30 FOOT WIDE ACCESS AND UTILITY EASEMENT THAT PARALLELS THIS UNPAVED SECTION OF DAVID MOORE AND EXTENDS TO THE TERMINUS OF THE PAVED PORTION OF DAVID MOORE DRIVE AND A DAVID MOORE DRIVE.

AS YOU MAY REMEMBER FROM OTHER CASES IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS OR SO, UM, PROVIDES THE PRIMARY ACCESS OUT TO WEST SLAUGHTER LANE TO THE NORTH AND FOR THE TEXAS OAK SUBDIVISION.

UH, THIS TRACT IS ZONED IN A RURAL RESIDENTS DISTRICT AND IS, AND IS SITUATED BETWEEN TWO OTHER SIMILAR SIZED IRR TRACKS THAT CONTAIN ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

EACH THERE IS A FLOOD PLAIN OF SLAUGHTER LANE, UH, OF SLAUGHTER CREEK, UM, THAT EXTENDS ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, BEYOND THAT THERE'S THE PARADIS MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THERE'S A MARY MORRISSEY RIGHT PARK TO THE EAST.

UM, THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES IN THE TEXAS OAK SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH THAT HAVE SF THAT HAVE ISF TWO ZONING.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE SF FIVE DISTRICT, WHICH IS CALLED URBAN FAMILY RESIDENCE, AND THEY ARE, UH, HAVE AMENDED THEIR REQUEST TO ADD A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, TO BUILD UP TO SIX SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES

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IN A CONDOMINIUM REGIME ON THE PROPERTY.

AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL FAMILY MEMBERS, UM, ON THESE DIFFERENT, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.

THE PROPERTY DOES HAVE ACCESS TO CITY, UH, WATER AND WASTEWATER.

HOWEVER, A CURSORY REVIEW BY CITY STAFF DOES INDICATE THAT THERE WOULD BE UPGRADES NEEDED TO ROADWAY AND UTILITY STRUCTURE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE SINGLE ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE ON THIS PROPERTY.

UH, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING SFI CO AS THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY ALLOWS FOR ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS TO BE BUILT AND ALSO MAINTAIN A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER.

AT THE SAME TIME, THE DISTRICT WOULD INTRODUCE A NEW ZONING CATEGORY TO THIS AREA.

HOWEVER, UH, THE, THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, UM, LIMITS THE NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT COULD BE BUILT AND ADDITIONAL FOUR, AND WOULD LIKELY BE, UH, ACCOMPANIED BY INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES.

SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE SFI CO LIMITED TO SIX UNITS, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, WENDY.

AND THEN THE PRIMARY SPEAKER IS ALSO, I BELIEVE THE AGENT MEG GREENFIELD, AND YOU WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME'S MEG GREENFIELD.

I'M WITH DUNAWAY ASSOCIATES AND WE ARE REPRESENTING THE OWNER, JOHN REES AND HIS FAMILY.

UM, SO AS STAFF STATED, WE ARE REQUESTING TO THE ZONING FROM IRR TO SF FIVE WITH THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY, IN ADDITION TO PROVIDE, UH, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL LIVING SPACE FOR MORE FAMILY MEMBERS.

UM, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE SORT OF A FAMILY COMPOUND FAMILY ESTATE.

UM, SO THERE'S TWO EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES CURRENTLY ON THE SIX ACRE SITE.

AND THE GOAL IS TO ADD ONE ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ADD THREE GRANNY FLATS OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, TOTALING SIX UNITS, UM, HENCE THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.

SO SF FIVE USUALLY ALLOWS UP TO 10, UM, BUT WE ARE LIMITING IT TO SIX, UM, TO MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND THE CODE DOESN'T DISTINGUISH BETWEEN PRIMARY OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

UM, BUT THERE WILL BE THREE SINGLE FAMILY AND THREE SMALLER ACCESSORY UNITS.

UM, AND THEY ALL WILL BE DETACHED AND SPACED OUT ACROSS THE SIX ACRE PARCEL.

UH, IN ADDITION IN THE FUTURE, UM, WHEN, YOU KNOW, LAND, THE PARCEL CHANGES HANDS, UM, THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WILL RUN WITH THE LAND.

UM, AND WE ARE AN AGREEMENT WITH STAFF AND SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THE OWNERS HERE AND POSSIBLY SOME OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN NEXT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

ARE JOHN AND JEFF OR, AND JANICE REESE, UM, DO YOU WISH TO SPEAK AND YOU WILL EACH HAVE THREE MINUTES? HI, I'M JOHN REESE.

THIS IS MY MOTHER JANICE, AND SHE'S ACTUALLY THE PROPERTY OWNER AND WE'RE NEIGHBORS ON THE PROPERTY.

SO I'M GOING TO LET HER SPEAK FIRST AND THEN I'LL SPEAK SECOND.

OKAY, THANKS.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JANICE REESE.

UH, I RESIDE AT 10 TO 21 DAVID MOORE DRIVE.

I'M 81 YEARS OLD, A RETIRED PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER.

I OWN A PROPERTY OF SIX ACRES.

I HAVE THREE CHILDREN.

I WANT TO DIVIDE MY PROPERTY INTO THIRDS.

UH, IT SEEMS VERY SIMPLE, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT AS ANYONE THAT'S EVER DEALT WITH ALL THE CITY ZONING AND, AND, UH, PERMITS.

EVERYONE KNOWS IT, IT TAKES, UH, PERSEVERANCE AND DEDICATION TO GET THIS DONE, BUT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT.

MY HUSBAND DIED TWO YEARS AGO AND THIS WAS WHAT HE WANTED.

AND SO I'M TRYING TO CARRY OUT WISHES.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

THANKS MUM.

UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE, WE'RE NEIGHBORS.

WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AS KIND OF A FAMILY PROJECT.

UM, BACK IN 2007, 2008, WE BUILT TWO HOUSES TOGETHER, ONE FOR MY PARENTS AND MY GRANDMOTHER FOR A WHILE.

WE WERE A FOURTH-GENERATION FAMILY THERE.

MY, MY WIFE AND

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I HAVE FOUR KIDS AND THEY WERE ABLE TO RUN BACK AND FORTH TO MY MOM'S HOUSE.

AND MY DAD WAS THERE AND MY GRANDMOTHER WHO LIVED TO BE A HUNDRED AND DIED LAST YEAR.

AND, UM, LIKE SHE SAID, IT WAS MY, MY DAD'S WISH AND HERS AS WELL THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE DIVIDED INTO THIRDS FOR MY MOM'S THREE CHILDREN.

UH, AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE THERE AND HAVE MANY FAMILY GATHERINGS.

AND FOR US, UH, PEOPLE TALKED IN THE PREVIOUS CASE ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR US.

THE CHARACTER OF THAT LAND IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

WE BOUGHT IT BECAUSE WE ENJOYED THAT THERE WAS SPACE AND THAT THERE WAS A CREEK AND THAT THERE'S A GIANT PARK NEXT DOOR.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DEVELOPERS, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO HIGH DENSITY.

WE REALLY JUST WANT TO ADD THE POSSIBILITY OF ONE ADDITIONAL HOUSE.

UM, AND THEN THE POSSIBILITY FOR LITTLE GARAGE APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THOSE HOUSES, SHOULD THAT COME TO PASS.

BUT IN THE IMMEDIATE WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS TO BUILD ANYTHING.

UM, IT'S MORE JUST KIND OF LIKE FORWARD-THINKING FOR OUR FAMILY AND THE PURPOSE OF THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY IN OUR CASE IS TO PREVENT THE LAND EVER FROM BEING DEVELOPED BY DEVELOPERS AND BECOMING VERY HIGH DENSITY.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US AS PROPERTY OWNERS.

WHO'VE LIVED THERE FOR OVER A DECADE.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO OUR NEIGHBORS.

I KNOW ONE OF WHOM IS HERE TO SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF TONIGHT, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO NEIGHBORS ON THE OTHER SIDE WHO ARE ALSO SUPPORTIVE.

UM, AND THEY'RE BOTH KIND OF, UH, NATURALISTS, LIKE ONE PROPERTY OWNER IS BIOLOGY PROFESSORS AT ST.

ED'S.

AND THEN I'M SORRY, NOT SAYING THAT IT'S A TEXAS STATE AND THEY'RE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO BECAUSE THEY WANT TO PRESERVE IT.

THE OTHER FOLKS, JUST DOWN THE ROAD, THERE'S FOUR PROPERTIES IN A ROW.

THEY'RE BASICALLY SIMILAR.

AND SO THE OTHER FOLKS ARE, I'M ALSO IN FAVOR AND THEY WORKED FOR THE AUSTIN PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THEY WOULDN'T BE, IF WE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO ANYWAY, UH, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR US.

ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS.

OKAY.

WELL, IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE'LL ASK YOU WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS.

OKAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

THAT'S IT.

THANKS.

SO, AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP IN A FAVOR.

IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, WHO HASN'T SPOKEN AND IF NOT.

OKAY.

UM, AND YOU, IF YOU COULD, AFTER YOU SPEAK, GIVE YOUR INFORMATION TO ANDREW THERE AND, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND, AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THAT OFF.

MY NAME'S DANNY BRADLEY.

UM, I DID SIGN UP, BUT IT, AND IT'S ON THE WEB, ON THE WEB APP.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS REGISTERED WITH YOUR APPLICATION, UH, OR NOT YET.

ANYWAY.

UH, MY WIFE AND I LIVE, UH, ON THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE EAST OF THE REESE'S AND 10 TO 31, UH, DAVID MOVER, THAT'S BETWEEN THEIR HOUSE AND, UH, MARY MORRISSEY, WRIGHT PARK.

AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2005 AND FOUND IT ALL TO BE A VERY LOVELY PLACE.

WE'VE, UH, WE'VE KNOWN THE REESE'S A LONG TIME, UH, EVER SINCE THEY MOVED INTO THE PROPERTY.

AND, UH, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY ON THEIR BEHALF THAT FIRSTLY, UH, THEY HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF DOING ANYTHING, UH, ENVIRONMENTALLY INSENSITIVE.

IN FACT, WE'VE NOTICED THAT THEY ARE VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS AND SO, UH, UM, IT WOULD BE VERY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THEM TO BE OTHERWISE.

AND THAT, UH, THAT, THAT REALLY, THAT REALLY IS THE MAIN THING.

AND, AND WE, AND WE REALLY DO THINK THAT THEIR PLAN AS PRESENTED IS A VERY ACCEPTABLE, UH, TO US.

NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY, ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM ME? NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHOWING UP THOUGH.

THANK YOU.

AND ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR AND IF NOT, I WILL GO TO THE LIST OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION.

AND FIRST I HAVE BRENT AND WITH THE FOGGING OF THE GLASSES RASH KEY, AND I'M NOT SURE IF I'M EVEN READING THAT AND YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE, THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT PRONUNCIATION.

I'M NOT, NOT MANY PEOPLE GET MY NAME.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, MY PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UH, THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SOME CONCERNS I HAVE, UM, INVOLVED THE FLOODPLAIN THAT IS IN THE AREA, UH, NOT ONLY IS THE FLOOD PLAIN ON THE PROPERTY, BUT IT ALSO CROSSES THE GRAVEL ROAD JUST UP FROM WHERE THESE, UM, WHERE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS.

UM, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING FURTHER UP DAVID MOORE AND, UH, THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THAT ADDITIONAL RUNOFF IS GOING TO AFFECT THE FLOOD PLAIN AROUND THERE.

UM, THE ROAD IS GRAVEL.

THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IS THAT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE UPGRADED WITH

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THE FLOOD PLANE GOING ACROSS THE ROAD, UM, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, KIND OF OVERBUILT IN ORDER TO SUSTAIN THAT.

UM, FIRE CONCERNS IS ALSO A BIG ONE AROUND THE PARK.

UM, IF A FIRE BROKE OUT, I'M NOT SURE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THAT, UH, THERE IS A LOT OF TREE COVER IN THAT AREA.

A LOT OF NATIVE LIVE OAKS, A LOT OF WILDLIFE, WILD BIRD POPULATIONS.

UM, I BELIEVE THE PARK NEEDS A, YOU KNOW, RURAL TYPE BUFFER ZONES, UM, UM, UH, AWAY FROM HIGH DENSITY TYPE DEVELOPMENTS.

UM, I HAVE PRIVACY CONCERNS.

UM, THE THOUGHT OF HAVING POTENTIALLY TWO RESIDENCES STARING INTO MY BACK YARD AND INTO MY, YOU KNOW, ONTO MY PORCH IS NOT SOMETHING I'VE LOOKED FORWARD TO.

UM, IF THE ROAD ITSELF IS PAVED, I FEEL THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC GOING DOWN THAT ROAD AND INCREASE PEOPLE USING THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARK AT THE END OF THIS ROAD.

UM, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THERE, THERE'S NO PARKING OTHER THAN TO PARK IN FRONT OF OUR FENCES.

UM, THAT'S GONNA CAUSE SOME PROBLEMS THERE AS WELL.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE, THE LAND OWNERS, UM, CONCERNED FOR MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF THE PROPERTY AND THE RULE ASPECTS OF IT, BUT I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT, UM, JUST THE SF FIVE DESIGNATION ITSELF COULD OPEN THE DOOR IN THE FUTURE.

IF SOMEONE, IF A NEW, UH, PROPERTY OWNER WANTING TO PURSUE THAT THE GROUNDWORK WOULD ALREADY BE IN PLACE FOR THAT.

UM, UH, THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY CONCERNS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN NEXT IS, UH, DANA TAKENAKA AND THEN JEREMY, AND I'LL JUST SAY THEN JEREMY BIRD OR BURGA AND THEN ANDREW GARDENY.

SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHO'S COMING UP NEXT.

SO EACH OF YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THAT AND THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR SHOWING UP.

HELLO, MY NAME IS DANA TALKING KNOCK.

I LIVE DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS PLOT OF LAND AT 10 401KS COVE.

WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY IN 2017.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY WAS BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE DON'T HAVE A PRIVACY FENCE IN OUR YARD IT'S SEE-THROUGH AND WE LOOKED DIRECTLY ONTO THE REESE TRACT AND IT WAS SO ATTRACTIVE WHEN WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE.

WE KNEW WE WANTED TO RAISE OUR FAMILY HERE.

AND AS WE'RE EXPECTING OUR FIRST CHILD RIGHT NOW, THE THOUGHT OF POTENTIALLY SIX UNITS BEING ABLE TO BE BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY IS SCARY.

WE HAVE HAD INCIDENCES ALREADY, UM, WITH HOMELESS PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR BACKYARD, STEALING THINGS, BREAKING IN AS IT IS ALREADY THE CONCERN FOR SAFETY MAKING THIS ROAD THAT IS PRIVATE.

NOW PUBLIC IS INCREDIBLY SCARY TO ME AS A FUTURE MOTHER.

UM, NOT TO MENTION ALL OF THE GREAT POINTS THAT BRENT BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE PARK, THE INCREASED TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD, BECAUSE PEOPLE ALREADY TRY AT THIS POINT TO ACCESS THE PARK ON THAT ROAD.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THE HOMEOWNERS DO A GREAT JOB THUS FAR OF TELLING THEM YOU CAN'T PARK HERE.

YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

BUT THAT OF COURSE WILL CHANGE IF THIS ROAD BECOMES PUBLIC.

AND ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS ASPECT OF THINGS I'M CURRENTLY IN REAL ESTATE MYSELF.

I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR A DEVELOPMENT COMPANY TO COME IN.

THAT SCARES ME.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT CURIOUS.

UM, ANYTIME I'VE EVER BUILT PROPERTY, IT'S REALLY JUST, I HIRE A BUILDER.

THEY GO IN, THEY DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

THEY, THEY COME SPEAK TO YOU GUYS AND THEY, THEY HANDLE THE SITUATION.

I FIND IT CONCERNING THAT A HUMONGOUS DEVELOPMENT COMPANY IS ALREADY A PART OF THIS.

IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT SUSPECT.

UM, I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AS THEY STATED EARLIER, HOWEVER, WITH THE STATE OF THE REAL ESTATE MARKET IN THIS TOWN, TO ME, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME.

OUR NEIGHBORHOODS VERY, VERY DESIRABLE.

WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS, UM, NEW BUILDS START IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN THERE.

AND I KNOW OTHER DEVELOPERS HAVE TRIED, UM, I KNOW THIS WILL GET BROUGHT UP HERE IN A SECOND, BUT THE SAFETY CONCERN OF GETTING OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IF, AND WHEN A FIRE OR A FLOOD OR SOMETHING HAPPENS NEAR THE PARK, WHICH IT HAS, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE WAS A FIRE THAT HAPPENED IN 2011 AND MARY MOORE PARK.

AND

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IF YOU KNOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S DEEP, IT TAKES ME FIVE MINUTES TO GET TO SLAUGHTER FROM MY HOUSE.

AND I'M IN ONE OF THE DEEPEST PARTS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M WRAPPING UP, BUT THAT'S A VERY, VERY REAL CONCERN.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IF SOMETHING HAPPENS? OKAY, WELL THANK YOU.

AND THAT'S FOR SHOWING UP AND SPEAKING AND THEN JEREMY BERGA OR BERGE, AND THEN ANDREW, GOD BEANIE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

UH, IT WAS URGE YOU HAD IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

UM, I LIKE THE GENTLEMAN STATED EARLIER, I'M NOT A NATIVE, UH, AUSTIN KNIGHT.

I MOVED HERE ABOUT 16 YEARS AGO.

UH, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I CHOSE THIS, UH, PART OF TEXAS WAS NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF ITS ILLUSTRIOUS MUSIC SCENE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF ITS ABILITY TO INTEGRATE, UM, ITS SURROUNDING BUILDINGS WITH NATURE.

AND IN THE LAST THREE TO FIVE YEARS, I'VE SLOWLY SEEN THAT TREND, UH, ALL BUT DISSIPATE AND THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN PLACE ARE, UM, MORE MODERNISTIC BUILDINGS THAT LACK THE, UH, AESTHETIC OF THE NATURE THAT WAS INTEGRATED IN THE EARLIER TWO THOUSANDS WHEN I MOVED HERE, UH, AND BEYOND, UH, MY MAIN CONCERN WITH THIS IS, UM, AS JOHN STATED, THE IMMEDIATE IS NOT THERE, BUT WHAT OF THE FUTURE? UM, THAT'S WHERE I LIKE TO PUT MYSELF, UH, I, DON'T ALWAYS LIKE TO THINK ABOUT THE NOW, BUT I LIKE TO JUMP A FUSE AHEAD.

UM, AND WHO'S TO SAY THAT THE PERSON THAT COMES AFTER, UM, THIS FAMILY, BECAUSE WHEN WE GET DOWN TO BRASS TACKS, IT MONEY WILL ALWAYS TALK.

AND IF SOMEBODY ELSE COMES IN HERE, WHO'S TO SAY THAT THAT WON'T BE DEVELOPED TO SIX OR REZONE TO 10 OR BEYOND THE CARBON FOOTPRINT THAT IS BEING LEFT AROUND MARY MOORE PARK, WHICH IT ALBEIT A SMALL PARK IS STILL, UH, MORE ON THE GRANDER SIDE.

UH, AS OF LATE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MALONE DOWN THE STREET FROM ME, AS WELL AS THE, UH, NEW ADDITION RIGHT UP THE ROAD AT THE BEGINNING OF BILL BROOKE.

SO WE'RE SLOWLY SEEING, UM, AN ENCROACHMENT ON THIS AREA THAT IS KNOWN TO NATIVE WILDLIFE, UM, WILD FLOWERS, TREES, AND, UH, AN AREA FOR FAMILIES, UH, AND, UH, WILDLIFE ENTHUSIAST TO COME AND ENJOY A SATURDAY OR A SUNDAY.

UM, AGAIN, NOTHING AGAINST WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.

I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S MY CONCERN IS MORE FUTURE-BASED UM, THEN NOW BASED, UM, AND ALSO LIKE BRENT SAID, THE IDEA THAT THIS ROAD WOULD BE PAVED, THEY WOULD NOW BECOME PUBLIC, UM, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO PARK RIGHT NEXT TO MY FENCE.

LIKE MY WIFE JUST STATED EARLIER, UM, BECAUSE WE DO RESIDE AT 10, 401K IS COVE.

PEOPLE DO ALREADY TRY TO PARK BACK THERE TO BEGIN WITH, UM, KUDOS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT LOT ALREADY FOR KEEPING THAT AREA KIND OF FREE AND CLEAR.

BUT NOW THAT WOULD OPEN UP FOR THE POTENTIALITY FOR THERE TO BE MULTIPLE CARS ON, UH, ANY GIVEN TIME OF THE YEAR.

UM, AND THE SAFETY CONCERNS AROUND THAT, UH, ALSO KIND OF PIQUED MY INTEREST AS WELL.

SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOU OPENING UP THE FLOOR FOR THIS, UH, POTENTIAL CONCERN.

AND, UH, I WOULD APPRECIATE AS I THINK THE NEIGHBORS HERE THAT ARE OPPOSED WITH ME, UH, WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU TOOK THIS INTO GREATER CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN, UH, ANDREW GORDINI AND YOUTUBE WILL ALSO HAVE A LIMIT OF THREE MINUTES.

OKAY.

UH, HELLO.

THANK YOU.

I'LL KEEP THIS PRETTY PRETTY QUICK.

UM, MY PRIMARILY MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS, IS ABOUT SAFETY.

UM, MOSTLY FIRE AND ESCAPE.

UM, AND, UH, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY, AS IT'S BEEN PRESENTED, I DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR CONCERN ABOUT WHAT THEIR THEY WANT TO DO WITH THIS PROPERTY, BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS JUST SAID, UM, FUTURE CONCERN WITH, UH, THIS GETTING BOUGHT AND DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE.

UH, THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ALREADY GOING ON AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, DAVID MOORE IS NOT A REALLY GOOD ESCAPE ROUTE.

UM, SO I JUST WANT TO VOICE CONCERNS OVER, OVER FIRE SAFETY PRIMARILY.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT IF THERE'S A FIRE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT BRIEF AND SIMPLE AT THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS SHOWN UP TO SPEAK AND HASN'T SIGNED UP YET? AND IF NOT, THEN THE APPLICANT'S AGENT WILL HAVE, OR THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE, UM, A THREE MINUTE REBUTTAL,

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HELLO, MEG GREENFIELD REPRESENTING THE REESE FAMILY.

UM, SO IN REGARDS TO FIRE SAFETY, I'M A MEMBER OF THE, UM, AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT DID REACH OUT TO US TO DISCUSS THAT, UM, HE LIVES IN THE TEXAS OAK, UM, SUBDIVISION RIGHT ACROSS FROM DAVID MOORE.

AND, UM, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE THEIR EYE ON THIS AREA AS ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE THE BEST ACCESS.

UM, SO BASICALLY THIS, UM, THIS REVIEW RIGHT NOW IS, UH, REGARDING THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE, OF THE LAND USE.

UM, AND IF THE OWNER CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD AND DEVELOP, UM, HE WILL NEED TO DO SUBDIVISION AND SITE PLAN.

AND AT THAT TIME, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL REVIEW THE SITE AND OPENING UP THAT REVIEW, UM, MIGHT BE A REALLY POSITIVE THING TO INCREASE FIRE SAFETY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ALSO AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, FLOOD PLAIN DRAINAGE TRANSPORTATION, ALL THOSE REVIEW TYPES WILL BE ADDRESSED.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER HAS EVERY INTENTION OF MEETING CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, IN ADDITION, THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE THESE STRESSORS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS MANY NEIGHBORHOODS IN AUSTIN.

HOWEVER, THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT IS FAIRLY SMALL AND, UH, WE DON'T EXPECT IT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THOSE CURRENT ISSUES THAT THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS ONE UNIT PER ACRE.

IT IS VERY LOW DENSITY.

UM, IT WILL NOT BE, UM, A HUGE INFLUX OF RESIDENTS OR TRAFFIC.

UM, SO THE, THE SCALE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UM, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN IS, IS SMALL.

UM, AND SO WE FEEL THAT IT WILL NOT SIGNIFICANTLY CONTRIBUTE, UM, TO THESE EXISTING ISSUES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT WRAPS UP AND IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IS THERE ACTUALLY ANY MOTION DISCUSSION OR WHATNOT? OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONER, DANCLER SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WOODY AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND FOR CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT IS UNANIMOUS AND ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

FIRST I'M LOOKING AT THE SCREEN AND THE COMMISSIONER SMITH THAT'D BE REZONED SOMETHING.

IF IT WERE REZONED SF TWO WITH NO RESTRICTIONS ON IT, THEY COULD PROBABLY FIT 25 LOTS ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

UH, AND SO I THINK WHAT THE OWNER WANTS TO DO COMING IN AND SAYING, WE WANT HIS OWN AT SF SIX AND PUT A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TO NO MORE OR SFI NO MORE THAN, THAN SIX LOTS.

THEN I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS ARE IT'S A BENEFIT TO WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE ASKING FOR, UH, BY NOT RESOLVING THIS ASSET TOO.

CAUSE IF THIS WERE A TRADITIONAL DEVELOPMENT SOLD TO A DEVELOPER, IT WOULDN'T HAVE 25 UNITS BUILT ON THIS HOUSE IN A HEARTBEAT AND THEY WOULD MAKE THE STREETS PUBLIC AND NOTHING ELSE WOULD GO ALONG.

SO I THINK THE, THE NEIGHBORS UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS, BUT I THINK THE BENEFIT YOU'RE GETTING OF HAVING THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IS GOING TO GO A LONG WAYS AND THAT CAN BE CHANGED UNLESS THE FUTURE COMMISSION CHANGES ITSELF, I WOULD SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

OKAY.

IS THAT A MOTION? SURE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT RECOMMENDATION AND I'LL SECOND IT AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE PANEL.

OKAY.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT QUESTION.

AND THEN DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

I MEAN CHAIR BARRERA, RAMIREZ, AND THEN I'LL GO BACK.

YES.

OKAY.

I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION.

I JUST HAD A QUICK CLARIFYING QUESTION.

UM, THE, IS IT A RESTRICTED COVENANT OR IS IT A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY? CAUSE I HEARD RUN WITH THE LAND, WHICH IS A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, BUT THEN IT ALSO HEARD CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.

SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THEY ARE IN FACT FILING A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF UNITS ON THE PROPERTY.

UH, THIS IS WENDY RHODES AGAIN, IT'S A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY FOR SIX MAXIMUM OF SIX DWELLING UNITS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YES.

STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

AND THEN I'LL LOOK.

UM, SO THAT WAS, AND THEN FROM THE DIOCESE PUSHING ON THE DIAS.

OH, COME COMMISSIONER OF GREENBERG.

HOW LONG IS THAT FLAGPOLE ON THE, ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE LENGTH OF THE DRIVEWAY? OKAY.

YEAH.

UH, AVAILABLE FROM THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER THAT.

HI MAN.

GREENFIELD AGAIN.

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UM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW LONG THAT, UM, THAT FLAGPOLE IS AT LEAST 1200.

I MEAN, SCALING IT OFF.

IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 800 FEET.

JUST EYEBALLING IT.

YEAH.

IT'S KIND OF A WEIRD NEWS LOTS OR HAVE A BIT OF A WEIRD, UM, WEIRD SHAPE.

SO ARE YOU ANTICIPATING DIFFICULTIES WITH SUBDIVISION? UM, SO POTENTIALLY, BUT UM, WITH SUBDIVISION IT WOULD JUST BE ONE LOT.

UM, THEY WOULDN'T BE SUBDIVIDING AND THERE ACTUALLY IS, UM, AN EXISTING RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, UM, THAT IS ON THIS PARCEL AND THEN THREE NEIGHBORING PARCELS THAT LIMITS THEM, UM, FROM SUBDIVIDING INTO MORE, UH, MORE THAN THREE.

SO THEY CAN DO UP TO THREE LOTS ON EACH PARCEL.

SO THERE'S ALSO THAT EXISTING, RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, BUT, UM, FOR THE, FOR THE OWNERS PURPOSES, IT WOULD JUST BE ONE, ONE LOT THAT'S PLANTED.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER? ERR IS I DON'T SEE.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER KING.

YES.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, STAFF, THIS IS THE QUESTION, UH, FOR STAFF OF THE CEO, UH, TH THAT, UH, HOW CAN, WHAT ARE THE METHODS OF THAT I SEE, OH, CAN BE REMOVED ONCE IT'S APPROVED BY ZONING AND PLANNING, ONCE IT ASSUMING COUNCIL APPROVES IT, HOW CAN THAT CAN, WHAT ARE THE WAYS THAT CEO CAN THEN BE REMOVED? THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY IS PART OF THE ZONING.

IT RUNS WITH THE LAND, IF, IF, IF IT IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL FOR SIX UNITS AND THEY, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, EITHER THIS PROPERTY OWNER OR A FUTURE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS EIGHT UNITS, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS IS, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER REZONING CASE WITH ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING TO CHANGE THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY AND COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

YES.

SO, WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS THERE THAT ONCE THIS IS IN PLACE, IT'S GOING TO STAY IN PLACE UNTIL IF AND WHEN, UH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER COMMISSION, UH, AND COUNCIL MAY, MAY CHANGE THAT.

SO, UH, AND THEN I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, I WAS LOOKING AT THE FIRE RISK MAP AND IT'S VERY INTERESTING.

UH, FOUR OF THE CITY OF BOSTON IS THERE'S, IT'S CALLED WHAT'S MY FIRE RISK.

AND IT'S REALLY COOL.

I BROUGHT IT UP AND DARREN AT THIS LOCATION IS RIGHT IN THE RED HOT IT'S IN THE HOT RISK AREA.

AND THAT KIND OF CONCERNS ME.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THE, UH, APPLICANTS REPRESENTATIVE THERE SPOKE TO THAT TO SOME EXTENT, UH, BUT THAT DOES CONCERN ME, UH, PARTICULARLY GIVEN THAT THIS IS A DIRT ROAD RIGHT NOW AND THE ACCESS IN AND OUT OF THAT AREA MAY BE FAIRLY LIMITED.

CAUSE I I'M JUST WONDERING IT, THE DEVELOPMENT COULD, WOULD THIS DEVELOPMENT BE ALLOWED TO OCCUR WITHOUT THAT ROAD BEING IMPROVED FOR, FOR, FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T, WE'VE GOT THESE THINGS ALIGNED UP PROPERTY SO THAT IF THE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS THAT THE ROADWAY THERE, UH, WOULD BE IMPROVED FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLE INTO THIS AREA, CAN STAFF ADDRESS THAT? YES.

I, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH A FIRE REVIEWER WHO LIVES IN THIS AREA AND, UH, CALLED ME AND SAID THAT IF THERE IS A THIRD RESIDENCE ON THE HOUSE, THERE'S TWO RIGHT NOW.

BUT IF THERE'S A THIRD, THAT IS WHEN THE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE INCLUDING THE ROAD WOULD NEED TO BE UPGRADED.

OKAY.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT INFORMATION AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND UPGRADE.

I'VE READ THAT THE, UH, IN THE BACKUP THAT I GUESS THE AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION IT'S IN THE AS A SMP TO BE, UH, IN THE 2019, UH, VERSION APPROVED THAT THIS ROAD IS, IS, IS IN THE, IN THAT PLAN TO BE UPGRADED.

BUT DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT UPGRADES GOING TO OCCUR? I I'M SORRY.

I DO NOT HAVE A DATE FOR, FOR UPGRADING DAVID MARR DRIVE.

OKAY.

AND DOES THAT INCLUDE THE THAT'S PART OF THIS ZONING CASE THAT LONG WHATEVER 800 OR SO FOOT SEGMENT IT, IF THAT, IS THAT THE ROAD OR IS THAT DAVID MOORE DRIVE? THE PAVED PORTION IS ACTUALLY, IF YOU SEE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP, IT'S THAT LITTLE KIND OF SQUARISH RECTANGLE THAT THAT'S WHERE THE CAVE PORTION ENDS.

HANG ON.

LET ME GET OVER TO THAT.

OKAY.

SO IT'S ON THE NORTHWESTERN PART OF THIS, OF THIS.

OH, I SEE.

SO THE BLUE, THE BLUE AREA IS NOT PUBLIC IT'S PUBLIC.

THAT'S NOT THE DAVID MOORE DRIVE.

THAT'S THAT'S I GUESS THAT'S A DRIVEWAY.

THAT'S HAS A NAME OF DR.

DAVID MARK DRY.

OH, I SEE.

AND SO, SO THAT'S IMPLYING THAT THEY COULD THEN BUILD

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A DRIVEWAY EVEN BEFORE DAVID MOORE DRIVE.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN THAT BLUE, THAT LONG BLUE SEGMENT, YOU JUST DESCRIBED TO ME THE TOP PART ON THE WEST SIDE THERE, UH, OR THE LEFT SIDE THAT, THAT TOUCHES DAVID MOORE DRIVE.

AND AS I UNDERSTAND, DAVID MORE DRIVE IS, IS BUILT OUT TO THAT POINT.

IS THAT CORRECT? IT IS BUILT OUT TO THAT LITTLE OR THERE'S NORTH TOWARDS SLAUGHTER LANE AS A PAVED ROADWAY THAT ALL OF THESE TEXAS OAK SUBDIVISIONS, AS WELL AS THESE PROPERTY FOR PROPERTY THAT RUNS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS PAVED DRIVEWAY OR UNPAVED DRIVEWAY ALL USE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND THEN, SO THIS IS SORT OF IMPLYING TO ME TOO, THAT THEY COULD GO AHEAD AND DEVELOP THIS AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THAT DRIVEWAY DEVELOPED ACCORDING TO OUR CITY STANDARDS FOR, FOR EMERGENCY INGRID.

SO THE NECK INGRESS AND EGRESS IS THAT RICK, AT THE TIME OF SUBDIVISION, THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE REVIEWED.

OKAY.

SO EVEN IF DAVID MOORE DRIVE IS NOT BUILT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF IT THERE THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT DEVELOPED OUT, THEY COULD THEN BUILD THIS DRIVEWAY TO MEET CITY CODE FOR FIRE, EMERGENCY ACCESS, AND ALSO FOR ACCESS BY THE RESIDENTS HERE, IT'LL BE REVIEWED IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CODE AT THE TIME OF SUBDIVISION.

I SEE.

OKAY.

SO THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO WAIT FOR DAVID MOORE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE COVERED EITHER WAY THAT THEY'RE COVERED.

IF DAVID MOORE DOESN'T GET BUILT, BUILT OUT COMPLETELY THERE.

AND IF THIS DEVELOPMENT DOES OCCUR AND IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THAT DRIVEWAY.

RIGHT NOW THERE'S TWO FAMILY, THERE'S TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ON THE PROPERTY AND IT, IT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A UNPAVED DRIVEWAY AT THIS PORT AND THAT'S FINE.

IT'S JUST, WHEN THEY ADD A THIRD RESIDENCE, THAT'S WHEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO ROADWAY COME, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE EXAMINED.

LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, UH, MS. RHODES, I APPRECIATE YOU HELPING ME WITH THIS.

SO THAT, THAT CURRENTLY, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UNPAID DAVID MOORE DRIVE.

YES, I AM.

OKAY.

I'M WITH YOU.

OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND.

AND, AND IF, IF, IF THEY WERE TO DEVELOP THIS, THEY WOULD THEN HAVE TO, THEY WOULD SIT, HE WOULD LOOK AT DAVID MOORE DRIVE.

OKAY.

UH, AS WELL.

I MEAN, AS, AS WELL, THE, THE TERMINUS OF DAVID MOORE DRIVE.

YES.

WHERE THIS, WHERE THIS TRACT ENDS.

YES.

OH, I, SORRY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE COVERED EITHER WAY.

W IF DAVID MOORE DRIVE DOESN'T GET BUILT OUT AND IMPROVE COMPLETELY THERE TO THE TERMINUS, UH, YET THIS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DRIVEWAY, IF THAT DRIVEWAY IS BUILT AND CONNECTS WITH THE CURRENT WHERE DAVID MOORE DRIVE IS CURRENTLY BUILT OUT, THAT, THAT, THAT DRIVEWAY THERE WILL BE SAFE IN TERMS OF FIRE ACCESS AND INGRESS AND SAFE ACCESS FOR THE, FOR THE RESIDENTS HERE, I THINK THAT'S BEEN ESSENTIALLY ANSWERED.

SO IT IS, YEAH.

AND IT'S, IT'S, IT IS VERY TRICKY BECAUSE IT'S THE WEIRDEST FLAG LOT.

IT'S LIKE THE MOTHER OF ALL FLAG LOTS.

YEAH.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THERE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, UH, AND LET'S SEE, I GUESS, UH, I'LL GET THAT.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION RIGHT THERE.

I GUESS I DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

AND IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION COMMISSIONER DANCLER OR I HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

THE LAST TIME WE HAD A FLAG LOT, AND I, I HAD REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE EXITING OUT OF THIS SUBDIVISION.

UH, BUT I THINK THE USE IS APPROPRIATE.

UH, LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, HAVING, UH, COMING FROM A FAMILY OF 10.

I REALLY GET THIS, BUT, UM, THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH FIREWISE.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SPACING AROUND ANYTHING YOU CONSTRUCT THAT KEEPS EMBERS FROM TRAVELING.

THAT'S ALL BEEN ADOPTED, BUT THE LAST TIME WE HAD A LONG FLAG LIKE THIS, THEY DID REQUIRE THE HOMESPY SPRINKLE OR YELL, PREPARED TO DO THAT.

IF THE FIRE SAYS THAT'S NEEDED, UM, RIGHT.

YOU'RE ASKING ME, I ASSUME.

UM, YEAH, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT.

AND WHEN WE HAVE WATER NOW, SO WE COULD RUN SPRINKLERS.

UM, I WAS ACTUALLY, I JUST CAME FORWARD TO THE HOUSE, GET SPRINKLERS INSIDE RIGHT INSIDE.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

WE CAN DO THAT.

UM, OUR, OUR, WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT FIRE REGRESS AS WELL.

OF COURSE, LIVING THERE.

RIGHT.

NOBODY HAS PROBABLY BIGGER CONCERNS THAN WE DO.

HOW DO WE GET OUT? IF THERE'S A FIRE IN THE AREA, WE CAN SEE ALL THE TREES AND ALL THAT.

AND, UM, ONE POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE, I THINK PROBABLY SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BRADLEYS AND OURSELVES, CAUSE WE'RE THE ONES AT THE FARTHEST END OF THAT GRAVEL ROAD, IS THAT A FEW YEARS AGO? UM, I'M NOT SURE WHY, BUT THE CITY INSTALLED A COUPLE OF BARRICADES AT THE INTERSECTION OF HESS AND THE GRAVEL PORTION OF DAVID MORRIS.

THEY'RE ON YOUR MAP.

IT'S RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY.

IF YOU SEE THE ROAD HAS THAT COME THROUGH THE TEXAS OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD

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AND THEN WHERE IT HITS DAVID MOORE IS RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE, AS YOU LOOK AT THE MAP AT THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER OF OUR LARGE RECTANGLE, YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, HESS AND, AND DAVID MOORE.

ANYWAY, THOSE BARRICADES EFFECTIVELY BLOCK US FROM EXITING OUT ANOTHER WAY.

SO THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE TO EXIT IS THE, IS THE GRAVEL ROAD.

AND WE DON'T LIKE THAT.

WE WOULD LIKE THOSE BARRICADES TO BE REMOVED SO THAT WE COULD EXIT, I HAD TO HAVE TWO OPTIONS, RIGHT.

SHOULD ONE WAY BE BLOCKED.

AND THAT MAY HAVE NO BEARING ON THIS, BUT SINCE FIRE SAFETY WAS BROUGHT UP, I JUST WANTED TO POINT IT OUT BECAUSE I KNOW THE BRADLEYS DON'T LIKE THAT.

AND WE DON'T LIKE THAT EITHER.

YOU SIT POSSIBLE JUST TO PUT THE MAP UP BECAUSE I HAVE TO ADMIT, FOR SOME REASON I DIDN'T HAVE A ZONING MAP AND MY BACKUP, I JUST LIKED TO SEE IT REAL QUICK.

THAT'S FOR ME, UH, SURE.

COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ADVAIR.

THE COMMISSION CAN FIND THE MAP AND THE BACKUP THAT'S ON.

OKAY, THANKS.

I THOUGHT I'D SEEN IT AND YEAH, THERE, THE STREETS LISTED ON, RIGHT? YEAH.

RIGHT WHERE IT HAS COMES IN AS REPRESENT RIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, IF NOT, THEN WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO APPROVE ALL IN FAVOR OF A PRE, A STAFF RECOMMENDATION WITH THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.

AND I WILL LOOK ALSO, AND I SEE COMMISSIONER KING, COMMISSIONER, RAY COMMISSIONER, WOODCHUCK CHAIR, BURRELL RAMIREZ, AND ALL OF US ON THE DIOCESE.

SO THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU NEIGHBORS FOR PARTICIPATING AND, UM, THEN ONTO OUR NEXT CASE.

AND SO WE'RE DONE, SO YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL CALL YOU TOMORROW.

AND TECHNICALLY CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT NOW THAT THE MOTION'S BEEN PASSED.

SO, AND NOW BACK TO THE LAST CASE, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO DO A POSTPONEMENT TO NO POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 19TH.

OH, UH, I GOT AN EMAIL FROM ANDREW, SO WE WILL, IS THERE A MOTION TO POSTPONE TO OCTOBER? NO, TARA COMMISSIONER IS THE OPTION OF THE COMMISSION THAT IS NOT MANDATORY.

AND IT'S THE OPTION OF THE COMMISSIONER.

SO, WELL TALK TO YES.

COMMISSIONER, I MEAN, COMMISSIONER KING.

UH, SO IS THAT NOW WE'RE DISCUSSING WHETHER TO POSTPONE OR NOT NOW WE'RE BRINGING BACK THE CASE, THE FIRST CASE, AND NOW HAVING A POSTPONEMENT DISCUSSION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING PROPERLY.

AND, UH, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE.

YEAH.

AND I, UM, I JUST DON'T, I MEAN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THIS CORRECTLY, BUT I, SINCE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP ON THE DYES, BUT I'LL LOOK AT COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, I GUESS, UNLESS COMMISSIONER BRAY IS RECUSING.

WE COULD GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS CASE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD CHAIR.

YES, SIR.

I'M SORRY.

YOU KNOW, I IT'S, I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER BRAY HAS INDICATED THAT HE LIVES WITH WITHIN A HALF MILE.

IS THAT CORRECT? DID I UNDERSTAND THAT TO HIM? SO MY PARENTS' HOUSE, UH, IS, UH, I LOOKED AT, I LOOKED ON THE MAPS TO GETTING THESE EXHIBITIONS IS, UH, PROPERTY BOUNDARIES, 1800 FEET AWAY FROM, UH, THIS PROPERTY, YOUR PARENTS' HOUSE.

YEAH.

NOT MY HOUSE, BUT MY PARENTS' HOUSE.

WELL, BUT YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW.

AND I, I WOULD DRAW THE POSTPONE AND GET THIS CLARIFIED.

SO TH SO COMMISSIONER BRAY MAY WEIGH IN, SO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO RECUSE HIMSELF.

I THINK HIS VOICE AND HIS INPUT WOULD BE IMPORTANT.

UM, WHILE WE DO HAVE A LOT, WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD SUPPORT POSTPONING THIS UNTIL NEXT DEAL.

OCTOBER 19.

IT IS MOTION BY COMMISSIONER KING.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR POSTPONING AND, YEAH.

OKAY.

WHAT DOES THE POSTBELLUM MICROPHONE PLEASE? OH, CAN WE POSTPONE WITH