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IS THERE A COMMISSION CHAIR CALLING THE MEETING
[CALL TO ORDER]
TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM.THIS IS THE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING FOR OCTOBER 11TH, UH, WITH PEOPLE ATTENDING PLUS SOME VIDEO CONFERENCING.
THE COMMISSIONER IS CRAIG NAZER HERE.
PALMER NEW HOUSE, EDWARD FLORES, MONICA FRIENDED HERE.
LOT OF SMUGGLER HERE, RYAN CLINTON HERE.
AND I WOULD ALSO NOTICE, I THINK NANCY IS THERE TOO.
SO FOR SOME REASON THEY WEREN'T, THEY WEREN'T HEARING NUMBER.
UH, LISA MITCHELL HERE, KATIE YARROW HERE.
JOHN BRANDIS HERE, YOLANDA RODRIGUEZ, PACHECO LOUISE HERRERA HERE.
UH, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY REGARDING CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
IF ANYONE THINKS THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH ANY AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE SPEAK UP.
UH, WE HAVE NO CITIZENS COMMUNICATION TODAY.
UH, NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE AGENDA THEN.
[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES.THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN POSTED ONLINE.
SO I AM AN ENTERTAINING, A MOTION.
SO MOVED I'LL SECOND THAT IT'S BEEN MOVED TO SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? OKAY, WELL, UH, LET'S HAVE A ED D SO DO WE ALL, UH, IS A CONSENSUS VOTE? YES.
SO PASS ON CONSENSUS STAFF BRIEFINGS, THE FIRST ONE AUSTIN ANIMAL
[2a. Austin Animal Center and Animal Services Reports.]
CENTER AND ANIMAL SERVICES REPORTS ON GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, UH, JASONSO, UH, HERE'S THE NEWS FOR SEPTEMBER FIVE.
WE HAD A TOTAL OF 1,200 ANIMALS THAT WERE BROUGHT INTO THE SHELTER DURING THAT PERIOD.
UH, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 793 ANIMALS THAT WERE ADOPTED, INCLUDING ONE POTBELLY PIG.
UM, WE HAD A TOTAL OF 108 DOGS AND CATS THAT WERE RETURNED TO THEIR OWNERS, EITHER THROUGH OUR RTO OR THROUGH OUR RTO ADOPT, UH, ANIMAL PROTECTION.
WE'RE ABLE TO RETURN 80 ANIMALS TO OWNERS IN THE FIELD.
UM, DURING THEIR ENGAGEMENTS, THEY WERE ALSO ABLE TO HAND OUT 40 FENCING APPLICATIONS AND IMPOUNDED 151 INJURED ANIMALS AND DELIVER AN 83 ANIMAL WILDLIFE, ANIMAL SAUCE AND WILDLIFE RESCUE.
UM, WE HAD A TOTAL OF $104 VOLUNTEERS DONATE A 1000 588, 89 HOURS TO THE SHELTER.
UM, WE WERE ALSO ABLE, UH, EVEN DURING THE PANDEMIC TO HOLD FOR ADDITIONAL ORIENTATIONS FOR NEW VOLUNTEERS FOR SEPTEMBER.
SO WE WERE, UH, INTRODUCED A HUNDRED, THREE, 103 MORE PEOPLE TO THE SHELTER PROGRAMS. AND, UM, 22 NEW VOLUNTEERS ATTENDED THEIR FIRST TRAIN AND OR MENTORSHIPS.
WE HAVE, UH, MORE THAN 240 FAMILIES PROVIDED FOSTER CARE AND A TOTAL OF 160 ANIMALS ARE ADOPTED DIRECTLY FROM FOSTER CARE.
CURRENTLY THERE'S 1,291 APPROVED FOSTERS IN OUR GIFT PULSE SYSTEM.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO PROCESS 105 NEW OFF, UH, APPLICATIONS.
CURRENTLY THERE'S 345 ANIMALS IN FOSTER.
UH, 264 ANIMALS WERE TRANSFERRED TO 32 AAC PARTNERS.
UM, WITHIN OUR VET SERVICES, UH, WE TREATED, UH, 54 CASES OF EMERGENCY CASES OR AAC.
UM, WE HAD 43 CASES TRANSFERRED TO THE EMERGENCY CLINIC ALONG WITH THOSE AND OTHER, OTHER ANIMALS THAT WERE TAKEN TO THE CLINIC.
UM, FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, WE HAD WERE INVOICED $36,615.
UM, WE HAD 573 SPAY NEUTER SURGERIES PERFORMED AT AAC, UM, FOR OUR COMMUNITY CAT PROGRAMS THROUGH TNR, WE HAD 184 ANIMALS GET PROCESSED THROUGH SEPTEMBER, WHICH, UH, WE WERE INVOICED 1000 OR $12,999 THROUGH OUR SNR PROGRAM.
WE HAD 16 CATS GO THROUGH IT, UH, WHICH WAS $1,349.
UM, I JUST GOT THESE NUMBERS TODAY, BUT WE, FOR THE SPAY-NEUTER SURGERIES THAT HAPPENED IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, THROUGH EMANCIPET WE HAD 565 THAT WERE DONE.
UM, WE WERE INVOICED $53,701, UM, THAT I FIGURE MAY GO UP.
THAT'S THE INITIAL COST THAT WE WERE USUALLY AS A PROCESS OF THE NUMBERS.
WE'LL SEE INVOICES COME IN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UM, SO THAT THAT'S THE INITIAL COST FOR THIS ONE.
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UH, OVERALL WE HAVE 1055 VET EXAMS. WE HAD, UH, FIVE ORTHOPEDIC SURGERIES AND 19 OTHER SPECIALTY SURGERIES, AMPUTATIONS, MASS REMOVALS, DENTAL REPAIRS, THINGS LIKE THAT.UM, BUT THEN PET RESOURCE CENTER, WE WERE ABLE TO HAND OUT 1,342 BASIC FOOD ITEMS AND DEFERRED 15 DOGS WITH BEHAVIOR ISSUES FROM ACTUALLY ENTERING THE SHELTER.
UM, WE HAD 116 FOUND AMMO REPORTS AND 113 LOSS ANIMAL REPORTS WERE FILED WITH THE, WITH THE ONLINE SYSTEMS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE LAST, UH, YEAR.
AND, UM, OUR TECHS PROGRAM SEEMS STILL TO BE GOING STRONG.
WE HAD 133 NEW SUBSCRIBERS ADDED TO THAT GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, DON BLAND CHIEF ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICER.
I ALSO WANT TO REPORT THAT, UH, OUR NEW PROGRAM THAT WE LAUNCHED, UH, INTO AUGUST THE HOME TO HOME TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO REHOME THEIR PETS WITHOUT HAVING TO COME TO THE SHELTER.
SINCE THE FIRST TWO MONTHS WE'VE HAD 115 REHOME THAT DIDN'T COME TO THE SHELTER, THEY WERE REHOMED, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM THE ADOPTERS, UH, TO THE OWNERS ORIGINALLY.
SO THAT CAP 115 OUT IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
SO WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT THAT ON
[2b. COVID Update. ]
THE COVID UPDATE.UH, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MOVED FROM STAGE FIVE TO STAGE FOUR, BUT THAT REALLY DIDN'T AFFECT US BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES WHEN WE MOVED TO STAGE FIVE.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT COULD AFFECT US IN THE FUTURE IS, UH, STAFFING ISSUES BASED ON SOME NEW CITY GUIDELINES.
IF YOU WATCH PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETINGS THIS YEAR, IF A STAFF MEMBER IS FULLY VACCINATED AND THEY GET EXPOSED TO COVID, I, AND START EXPERIENCING SYMPTOMS, THEY CAN HAVE 40 HOURS OFF WITH PAY WHILE THEY GET TESTED.
AND IF THEY BECOME POSITIVE, UH, THEN THEY CAN HAVE ANOTHER 80 HOURS PAID TIME OFF.
SO YOU COULD HAVE SOMEONE THAT COULD BE AT THREE WEEKS.
AND SO THAT MIGHT ADVERSELY AFFECT US ON STAFFING.
IF WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS, UH, THAT GET TESTED AND GET POSITIVE.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT COVID RELATED, THAT'S BEEN CHANGED.
UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IS GOING ON.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE ON THAT.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A FULL AGENDA TONIGHT, SO I'LL KEEP IT SHORT.
AND I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF MY OTHER TOPICS DURING OUR MICROCHIPPING WORK GROUP.
I HAVE A, THE QUESTION AND THIS IS ABOUT COMMUNITY CATS.
I HAD A, UM, CITIZEN SAID SHE'D BEEN TAKING CARE OF THESE COMMUNITY CATS AT A COMMERCIAL AREA FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, NEW RENTERS MOVED INTO THIS COMMERCIAL BUILDING AND THEY TOLD HER THAT SHE COULDN'T FEED CATS THERE ANYMORE.
AND HER, I HADN'T REALLY HEARD ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S ANY WAY, ANY KIND OF THING YOU HAVE TO DO WITH THAT.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT EITHER THAT HADN'T CAME UP SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, BUT, UH, IF YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE STRIKEOUTS LIVING IN THE AREA AND COMMUNITY CATS BEING CARED FOR, UH, SHE CAN OBVIOUSLY GET, NOT GO ON THEIR PROPERTY TO FEED THEM, BUT SHE COULD MOVE NEXT DOOR NEARBY, NEARBY AND THEY'LL FOLLOW THE, OKAY.
WELL, I JUST WAS CURIOUS CAUSE I HAD THAT QUESTION.
UM, ON THE ANIMALS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING AT WERE RETURNED TO OWNER OR RETURNED TO OWNER ADOPT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? SO, UH, AMBULANCE TURNED DOWN OR ADOPT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S BEING KEPT PAST THE STRAIGHT HOLD PERIOD.
SO THE, THE INDIVIDUAL, UM, DIDN'T PICK IT UP DURING THE STRAIGHT HOLD.
SO THEN IT BECAME THE CITY'S PROPERTY.
AND SO, BUT IT'S GOING BACK TO THE OWNER.
SO WE, IT AS A RETURN TO OWNER AND ADOPT.
THAT WAS J I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON THAT ONE.
AND THEN, UM, ON THE OTHER ONE ON YOUR ANIMALS THAT WERE TRANSFERRED OUT, YOU SHOW 265 WERE TRANSFERRED OUT 172 DOLL OR AN ADA, WHICH ADDS UP TO 260.
SO WHAT ARE THE OTHER FIVE? OH, IS IT SMALL ANIMALS OR SOMETHING? BIRD, BUT I MEAN IT'S 200 AND BEFORE, YEAH, I DIDN'T CAPTURE IN THE NARRATIVE, BUT, UH, THERE WERE SIX OTHER ANIMALS LIKE WILDLIFE AND BIRDS OR ESSENTIALLY WILDLIFE, UM, DIFFERENT ANIMALS, BUT WHICH NUMBERS ARE YOU I'M LOOKING AT? UM, HANG ON, LET ME GO BACK DOWN TO THE PAGE 265 ANIMALS TRANSFERRED TO 32 AAC
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RESCUE PARTNERS UNDER OH YES.THERE, THERE WAS, WE SENT OUT A REVISED ONE.
THERE WAS, THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THAT, SO, YEAH.
THIS WAS THE ONE THAT WAS ON BACKUP.
YEAH, WE HAVE TO, UNFORTUNATELY I DIDN'T GET IT.
I DIDN'T GET IT UP IN OUR, SEE THE ERROR UNTIL AFTER THE POSTING PERIOD.
SO IT'LL BE REVISED TOMORROW ONLINE, BUT YEAH, WE SENT AN EMAIL.
PALMER, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UM, ON THE ANIMALS THAT THE APO, UH, OFFICERS ARE RETURNING THEM IN THE FIELD.
ARE YOU CAPTURING ANY DATA ON THAT AND ARE MICROCHIPS OR ANYTHING BEING OFFERED AT THAT TIME? UH, FOR THOSE PETS? YES.
THEY, THEY PUT ALL THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION WHEN THEY HAVE, UH, AN ACTIVITY IN, IN CHAMELEON AND THEY ARE ALWAYS OFFERING MICROCHIPS IN THE FIELD AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO MICROCHIP IN THE FIELD ALSO.
AND THEN, UM, UNDER THE, THE AREA WHERE A LOT OF IT WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT ON THE ANIMALS TRANSFERRED, THAT INCLUDES TRANSPORT, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
COULD WE START GETTING THAT? IT WOULD BE BROKEN DOWN, LIKE IN A SEPARATE CATEGORY, KIND OF LIKE LOCAL TRANSFERS AND THEN LIKE OUT OF STATE TRANSFERS MAYBE.
AND THEN WE, AFTER THE LAST MEETING, UH, BELINDA HAD SENT THROUGH SOME INFORMATION THAT HAD BEEN REQUESTED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT INCLUDED A LIST OF THE ANIMALS THAT HAD LEFT ON TRANSPORT AND ON THAT LIST THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THEM MORE LONG STAY, BUT ALSO QUITE A FEW OF THEM WERE SMALL.
AND THEN ALSO SOME OF THEM WERE LISTED AS NOT BEING SPAYED OR NEUTERED.
IS THAT CORRECT? OR MAYBE THAT LIST JUST HADN'T BEEN UPDATED.
IF ARE YOU QUESTIONING THE SPAIN NEUTER? UH, IF THE RESCUE, IF THEY PULL AN ANIMAL BEFORE IT'S SPAYED AND NEUTERED, THEY CAN TAKE THAT ANIMAL, BUT THEIR AGREEMENT IS THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT FIXED WITHIN 30 DAYS.
SO TRANS TRANSPORT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT THEY COULDN'T GO OUT YESTERDAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, WELL THEN LET'S GO ON TO THAT, THAT INCLUDED THE COVID UPDATE.
SO LET'S GO ON TO BRIEFING ON EXPIRATION OF EVICTION MORE.
[2c. Office of the City Clerk Refresher Training: Roles and Responsibilities]
OF THE CITY CLERK, REFRESHER TRAINING ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.UM, I'M MYRNA RIOS WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND JOINING ME IS STEPHANIE HALL WHO I'M SURE EVERYONE IS, UM, HAS EITHER SPOKEN TO, OR AT SOME POINT, UM, EMAILED OR SOMETHING WITH REGARD TO, UM, NUMBER TRAINING.
UM, SO WE ARE HERE TODAY JUST TO PROVIDE A REFRESHER TRAINING ON THE, UH, ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING SO MANY EMAILS, UM, AND INQUIRIES ABOUT, UM, HOW OR MISCOMMUNICATION ON HOW AGENDA ITEMS ARE POSTED.
AND, UM, IT'S JUST BECOME, YOU KNOW, UH, VERY FREQUENT.
AND WE FIGURED WE PROVIDE EVERYONE WITH, UM, A REFRESHER SO THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ON HOW TO REQUEST ITEMS BE POSTED OR, UM, THE BYLAWS PROCESSES, UM, AND HOW AN ITEM, YOU KNOW, GET STARTED.
HOW MANY MEMBERS CAN ADD AN ITEM TO THE AGENDA OR THE MEMBER, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS AS A WHOLE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
THAT IS WHAT THE TRAINING IS ABOUT.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT, WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN TAKE THOSE AT THE END OF THE TRAINING.
SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO STEPHANIE SO THAT SHE CAN BEGIN.
I LIKE MYRNA SAID, I'M STEPHANIE HALL WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS COORDINATOR.
YOU'RE PROBABLY GETTING BLAST EMAILS FROM ME.
THAT'S WHO I AM BEHIND THE SCREEN.
THANKS FOR LETTING US BE HERE TODAY.
I JUST WANTED TO DO SOME, A LOT OF YOU HAVE SEEN THIS.
THIS IS A REFRESHER TRAINING THAT WE DO ANYTIME YOU'RE REAPPOINTED.
SO I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU MIGHT HAVE JUST SEEN THIS WITHIN THE PAST SIX MONTHS, BUT I JUST PARED IT DOWN TO A COUPLE OF SLIDES.
I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THOSE REALLY.
FIRST OF ALL, EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION THAT'S OUTLINED IN CITY CODE IS SUBJECT TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
SO THAT IS WHAT CONTROLS EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
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I'LL LET ME, I GUESS I CAN HEAR THE SLIDES.SO ONE OF THE, OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FALLS INTO THAT CATEGORY THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT IS THE AGENDA POSTINGS.
THE TOMA REQUIREMENT THAT'S TOTALLY SHORT FOR TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT IS THAT AN AGENDA BE POSTED AT LEAST 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
WE CAN'T CHANGE OR ADAPT THAT EVERY SINGLE MEETING AGENDA NEEDS TO INCLUDE THE DATE, THE TIME, THE PLACE AND THE SUBJECT OF EACH ITEM.
IN ORDER TO BEGIN A MEETING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM TO CONVENE.
THAT'S ALSO TELLING A REQUIRED REQUIREMENT AND MEETINGS ARE AT LEAST REQUIRED TO BE AUDIO RECORDED.
SO Y'ALL ARE RECORDED BY IT, ET CETERA.
SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT REQUIREMENT, BUT THAT'S THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT.
THOSE RECORDINGS ARE THEN KEPT INDEFINITELY.
YOU WILL FIND THESE RECORDINGS ON, YOU SHOULD FIND YOUR, THESE RECORDINGS ON YOUR WEBPAGE.
THAT'S WHERE THEY ENDED UP BEING POSTED.
AGENDAS ARE A CRITICAL PART OF THE CITY'S DUTIES TO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC.
THAT IS WHY WE POST THE AGENDAS.
AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT JUST TO KEEP IN MIND THAT YOUR GENDERS SHOULD BE WRITTEN SO THAT ANY REASONABLE PERSON CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT IS THE INTENTION? WHAT ACTION MIGHT WE BE DOING? WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN? SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS THEY SHOULD INCLUDE ALL ISSUES TO BE CONSIDERED ANY ACTION AND ANY VOTE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SCHEDULED.
THE TYPICAL EXAMPLE THAT WE SEE ON AGENDAS, BECAUSE IT COVERS MOST THINGS, POSSIBLE DISCUSSIONS AND ACTION OF TO ALLOW YOU THE MOST VERSATILITY.
NOW, AGENDAS ARE COMPILED BY THE STAFF LIAISON WITH INPUT FROM PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY, THE EXECUTIVE LIAISON MEMBERS, THE COMMISSIONERS, OR THIS AND THE STAFF THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CHAIR TO APPROVE THAT FINAL AGENDA.
BUT IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT IS NOT DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY TO REMOVE AN ITEM, BUT THINGS MIGHT HAVE TO BE SHIFTED BASED ON THE TIME ALLOTMENT THAT YOU HAVE, WHETHER IT BE POSTPONED, OR WE NEED TO ADD SOMETHING BECAUSE OF URGENCY NOW TO GET AN ITEM ON AGENDA.
AND THIS IS THE CASE, NO MATTER WHAT METHOD IS BEING USED, YOU NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE TO GET AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
SO SOMEONE SUGGESTED, WELL, AT LEAST ONE SPONSOR.
THOSE ARE TYPICALLY DONE IN TWO COMMON WAYS.
ONE AT A MEETING DURING FUTURE BUSINESS ITEMS, A MEMBER CAN SUGGEST IT THAN JUST SOMEONE SPONSORS THAT SAYS I WOULD LIKE THAT AS WELL.
IT CAN BE ADDED TO THE NEXT AGENDA, OR THIS CAN BE DONE VIA EMAIL COORDINATING WITH THE STAFF LIAISON PRIOR TO A MEETING, YOU WOULD SEND THAT EITHER WITH, YOU ALREADY HAVE A CO-SPONSOR IN MIND, AND YOU WOULD JUST ATTACH THAT IN YOUR EMAIL, OR YOU CAN USE THE LIAISON TO ASK IF THEY CAN HELP YOU FIND A SPONSOR.
AND SHE WOULD SEND THAT OUT AND SAY, WHAT ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPONSOR THIS ITEM? EVERY SINGLE AGENDA NEEDS TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE BREAK THAT DOWN INTO KIND OF TWO FORMS, WHICH I KNOW THAT Y'ALL FAMILIAR WITH, THAT WE TYPICALLY SAY CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.
AND THAT GENUINELY REFERS TO THAT PERIOD OF TIME SET ASIDE AT THE BEGINNING OF A MEETING, OR IF YOU'RE LIKE LISTENING TO COUNCIL MEETING, IT'S USUALLY AT NOON WHEN SOMEONE CAN COME AND SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE, THAT IS NOT AN AGENDA ITEM.
SO THAT'S JUST THEIR TIME TO ADDRESS THE BODY ABOUT ANY TOPIC OF THEIR CHOICE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY LIMIT TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU, THAT YOU ALL EXPERIENCE A LOT.
OKAY, HERE, I'M GETTING SOME NODS.
THAT IS A NUMBER THAT YOU CAN LIMIT.
AND LIKE I SAID, IT USUALLY HAPPENS AT THE BEGINNING.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S A BIT MORE COMMON IS SPEAKER SIGNUP.
WE CALL IT SPEAKER SIGN UP BECAUSE THEY'RE SIGNING UP TO SPEAK ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM.
THERE CAN BE NO LIMIT PLACED ON THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SIGNING UP TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM.
THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THIS IS AN ITEM THAT IS LISTED AS A BRIEFING AND A BRIEFING IS KIND OF WHAT WE ASSUME A BRIEFING WOULD MEAN.
A BRIEFING IS SOMETHING FROM STAFF OR SOME OTHER ENTITY THAT THEY'RE JUST PRESENTING INFORMATION TO YOU.
YOU CAN ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF THAT ITEM, BUT IF SOMETHING'S A BRIEFING, THERE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE ANY DISCUSSION AND THERE CANNOT BE ANY ACTION, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY ITEM ON AN AGENDA IN WHICH THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
MOST SPEAKERS SIGN UP JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE BOARD.
BYLAWS, EVERY SINGLE BOARD AND COMMISSION HAS A STANDARD SET OF BYLAWS.
IT INCLUDES THE BOARD'S MISSION PROCEDURES FOR SELECTING OFFICERS.
IT USUALLY OUTLINES THE DUTIES OF HIS OFFICERS.
IT ALSO LISTS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ESTABLISHING A COMMITTEE OR WORKING GROUP.
AND I KNOW PREVIOUSLY YOU'LL HAVE ALL EXPERIENCED THIS AS WELL.
YOU DID NOT HAVE ANY COMMITTEES WE'RE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET YOU A COMMITTEE.
IT ALSO INCLUDES THE GUIDELINES FOR POSTING MEETINGS.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME GENERAL WORDING THERE ABOUT THAT.
FOLLOWING TOMA AND USING ROBERT RULES OF ORDERS.
ALL THE CURRENT BYLAWS SHOULD BE POSTED ON YOUR WEBPAGE.
GOING ALONG WITH THAT, THERE IS AN, A BED, A BYLAW AMENDMENT PROCESS IN CITY CODE AND OUTLINES THAT ALL BYLAW AMENDMENTS HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.
THEY HAVE TO REVIEW AND APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION FIRST.
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AND THEN THEY SEND THAT RECOMMENDATION ONTO FULL COUNCIL B BEFORE THOSE BYLAW AMENDMENTS CAN BE CODIFIED.SO THE ORDER TO DO THAT IS YOU WOULD START AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL.
YOU WOULD PROPOSE SOME BYLAW AMENDMENTS, MAKE SOME, SOME SUGGESTIONS, YOU APPROVE THOSE AT A MEETING.
WE GET WHAT WE CALL THE RED LINE VERSION OF THE CHANGES THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE.
THEN WE PRESENT THEM TO AUDIT AND FINANCE.
WE DEFINITELY INVITE THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT AUDIT AND FINANCE, THAT MAKES THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN IT'S AUTOMATICALLY FORWARDED TO COUNCIL BASED ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
ONCE COUNCIL MAKES THAT FINAL APPROVE APPROVAL.
THE BYLAW CHANGES ARE IN FACT, JUST A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON COMMITTEES AND WORKING GROUPS, BECAUSE I DO GET THIS QUESTION A LOT.
WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN COMMITTEES AND WORKING GROUPS? THE BIGGEST ONE IS THAT A COMMITTEE IS A MORE PERMANENT BODY.
THEY ARE INTENDED FOR A LONG-TERM PROJECTS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE OUTLINED IN THE BYLAWS AND WORKING GROUP.
ON THE OTHER HAND IS A TEMPER, A TEMPORARY BODY.
SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SET UP DURING A MEETING, BOTH OF THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE LESS THAN A QUORUM.
A WORKING GROUP THOUGH, WILL DISSOLVE AS SOON AS THAT GROUP MEETS AND THEN PRESENTS THEIR FINDINGS OR THEIR REPORT OR WHATEVER IT IS BACK TO THE FULL BOARD.
UM, A COMMITTEE ON THE OTHER HAND, ONCE THAT'S BEEN APPROVED AND ADDED TO YOUR BYLAWS, THE ONLY WAY TO DISSOLVE THAT COMMITTEE IS TO DO THE SAME PROCESS.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK THROUGH AUDIT AND FINANCE TO DISSOLVE THAT COMMITTEE.
THE REQUIREMENT FOR COMMITTEE IS THAT THEY MEET AT LEAST QUARTERLY.
AND IF YOU DO HAVE A FORMAL COMMITTEE ARRANGED, THEY THEN GET STAFF SUPPORT JUST AS YOU WOULD YOUR COMMISSION.
THEY ALSO HAVE TO FOLLOW TOMA.
SO ALL THEIR MEETINGS NEED TO BE POSTED RECORDED.
FOLLOWING THOSE KINDS OF REQUIREMENTS.
AGAIN, WORKING GROUPS MUCH MORE FLEXIBILITY THERE.
THEY CAN MEET HOW THEY WANT, ESPECIALLY NOW A LOT OF THE WORKING GROUPS ARE JUST MEETING VIRTUALLY WHENEVER THEY CAN, BECAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO FOLLOW TOMO.
I CAN TELL I'M GOING THROUGH THIS REALLY FAST BECAUSE THEY KEEP RUNNING OUT OF BREATH.
SO THEY'LL BE LIKE, LET'S JUST TAKE A SECOND.
DID I SKIP TOO FAR? MAYBE I DID.
MAYBE I WOULDN'T WANT TOO FAR.
THERE ARE TWO KIND OF MAIN, UH, BUSINESS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE GENERAL WORD FOR THIS TWO THING, TWO ACTIONS THAT A BOARD OR COMMISSION TYPICALLY DO THERE'S BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS.
COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA, ITEM REQUESTS, BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS.
I WOULD SAY IT'S THE MOST POPULAR, UH, BUT THEY DEF DIRECTLY RELATE TO AN ITEM THAT COUNCIL IS DISCUSSING OR AN ITEM ON A COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
SO SOMETHING THAT IS ON A CURRENT AGENDA OR SOMETHING THAT WILL BE COMING UP ON A CURRENT AGENDA, A BOARD RECOMMENDATION IS A FORMAL ACTION THAT YOU TAKE AT A MEETING TO SHOW YOU SUPPORT OR YOUR LACK OF SUPPORT FOR THAT ITEM.
AND IN THAT REPORT, YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU PROVIDE ALL THE DETAILS, THE EXPLANATIONS, THE RATIONALES FOR YOUR DECISION ON THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ON THE AGENDA AND NEEDS TO BE LISTED AS AN ITEM.
IT SHOULD BE VOTED ON BY THE ENTIRE COMMISSION.
AND THEN ONCE THAT'S HAPPENED, THE LIAISON TAKES THAT ACTUAL DOCUMENT, THAT ACTUAL REPORT AND UPLOADS IT INTO OUR ONLINE SYSTEM.
THE MOMENT THAT HAPPENS, AN AUTOMATIC EMAIL IS SENT OUT TO ALL MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
SO THEY GET NOTIFIED OF THAT RECOMMENDATION.
NOW IT SISTER IS THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUEST.
THE PROCESS IS VERY SIMILAR, BUT THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUEST IS FOR NEW ITEMS. IT'S LITERALLY THAT I, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET AN ITEM ON AN AGENDA.
SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY IN THE PURVIEW OR BEING DISCUSSED BY COUNCIL OR A COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THIS IS THE COURSE OF ACTION, BUT THE PROCESS IS EXACTLY THE SAME.
YOU PUT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, YOU VOTE ON THAT.
ONCE THAT DOCUMENT'S BEEN APPROVED, THE LEE IS ON UPLOADS IT AT AN AUTOMATIC NOTIFICATIONS GOING OUT.
THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS A NOTIFICATION TO THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE.
THE MAYOR THEN HAS FIVE DAYS TO ASSIGN THAT OUT.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE'S NO TIME LIMIT ON THAT.
ALL OF MAYOR COUNCIL IS NOTIFIED, BUT IT IS UP TO COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHAT THEY WOULD DO WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION.
MOST OF THEM ARE TYPICALLY JUST REVIEWED AND THEY MAY MENTION THEM AT A COUNCIL MEETING.
I COUNCIL COMMITTEE AGENDA REQUEST.
THE MAYOR DOES TAKE SOME ACTION AND LEAVES IT TO A COUNCIL COMMITTEE FOR WHAT THE NEXT STEP WILL BE.
JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBER DUTIES.
WE EXPECT ALL BOARD MEMBERS TO COME PREPARED TO THEIR MEETINGS, TO PERFORM THEIR OWN RESEARCH FOR THE BOARD, PROVIDE COPIES OF ANY MATERIALS.
ALTHOUGH RIGHT NOW THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ODD.
YOU MIGHT JUST BE EMAILING THEM TO YOUR STAFF LIAISON SINCE WE'RE NOT ENTIRELY BACK IN PERSON.
AND THEN WE DO EXPECT BOARD MEMBERS TO WRITE THEIR OWN RECOMMENDATIONS.
STAFF CAN CERTAINLY HELP COMPILE THOSE NOTES, BUT THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE RESPONSIBLE AND EXPECTED
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TO GENERATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING FROM THE BOARD OR THE COMMISSION.THE RELATIONSHIP WITH STAFF, IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE BOARD AND THE STAFF DO NOT SUPERVISE EACH OTHER OR VICE VERSA MEMBERS.
THE ENTIRE GOAL IS TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY.
STAFF SHOULD NOT BE DIRECTED TO PERFORM WORK THAT HAS NOT BEEN CODIFIED BY COUNCIL, AND EVERYONE SHOULD JUST BE PROFESSIONAL, COURTEOUS, AND LISTENED TO EACH OTHER.
IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU ARE REPRESENTING YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER.
SPEAKING OF COUNCIL, ON THE INTERACTION, THERE, HERE IS KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE LIAISON IS LOOK LIKE AND HOW THIS HIERARCHY IS SET UP.
SO STAFF SUPPORT IS PROVIDED TO EACH BOARD AND COMMISSION AND APPROVED COMMITTEE BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
SO THEY DESIGNATE A SUPPORTING DEPARTMENT AND THAT DEPARTMENT THEN DESIGNATES A SPECIFIC STAFF LIAISON, AN EXECUTIVE LIAISON, THOSE LIAISONS, A COORDINATOR WITH OUR OFFICE.
YOU JUST MEET YOUR JOSEPH FOR MYRNA.
AND THEN WE COORDINATE WITH COUNCIL, THE STAFF LIAISON.
I DON'T THINK I OUTLINED THE DUTIES IN THERE EXACTLY, BUT I HAVE THAT.
SO LET ME JUST, BEFORE I SKIP MYSELF HERE, HERE'S SOME OF THE OUTLINES AND I CAN'T READ THAT FROM A, THE ROOM.
SO I'M GOING TO LOOK AT IT HERE.
I MADE THE CHART A LITTLE BIT TOO SMALL, AND THE STAFF LIAISON IS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE SEVERAL HOURS OF TRAINING.
ONE OF THEM INCLUDES TRAINING FOR OUR ONLINE POSTING SYSTEM.
DON'T QUIZ ME ON WHAT THAT STANDS FOR, BECAUSE I CAN NEVER REMEMBER, BUT I BET Y'ALL KNOW.
SEE, THAT'S NOT TRUE, NOT TRUE.
THAT IS WHERE ALL THE P THE AGENDAS, THE RECOMMENDATIONS, EVERYTHING IS POSTED THROUGH THAT SYSTEM.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A FUSSY SYSTEM.
SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE BIT CRANKY.
THE LIAISON IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR PREPARING ACTION MINUTES AND POSTING THOSE MINUTES INTO THAT SYSTEM AS WELL IN A TIMELY MANNER.
AFTER THE MEETING HAS BEEN APPROVED, THEY ALSO MONITOR AND SUBMIT SIGN-IN SHEETS, ATTENDANCE REPORTS, AND REPORT VIOLATIONS OF ATTENDANCE POLICY TO US.
WE NEED TO BE NOTIFIED OF THOSE ATTENDANCE POLICIES PRETTY IMMEDIATELY, BECAUSE IN CODE IT DOES HIT HIT THE POSSIBILITY OF VACATING THE POSITION.
WE ALSO NEED TO BE NOTIFIED OF REPORTS.
I MEAN, I'VE CHANGES OF OFFICERS IF MEETING SCHEDULES CHANGE RESIGNATIONS, OR IF THE BOARD IS FAILING TO MEET, THEY ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR SCHEDULING MEETINGS, MAKING THOSE ROOM ARRANGEMENTS, AND THEN NOTIFYING US OF CANCELLATIONS.
THE EXECUTIVE LIAISON ON THE OTHER HAND IS USUALLY SOMEONE THAT'S THE DIRECTOR OR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF A DEPARTMENT.
SO THERE, THERE IS KIND OF THE RULE KEEPER AND THE ENFORCERS.
THEY ARE THERE TO ENSURE THE BOARD COMPLIES WITH ANY DEADLINES OR CO PROVISIONS, ENCOURAGES THE BOARD TO REMAIN WITH THEIR MISSION STATEMENT AND ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH TOMA.
THERE MAY BE A REMINDER TO STAY ON TOPIC OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
THEY SHOULD ALSO BE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST THE CHAIR IN PREPARING THE FINAL AGENDA.
AND THEY DO SERVE AS THE BACKUP.
IF THE STAFF LIAISON NEEDS ASSISTANCE OR IS OUT, THEY ARE ALSO ALWAYS THERE TO SUPPORT, ADVISE, PROVIDE RESOURCES AS NEEDED.
AND THEY MAY ALWAYS BE CALLED UPON BY THE BOARDER COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS.
JUST A FEW OTHER THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND.
AND I GET, I KNOW ALL OF, YOU KNOW, THIS JUST AS ALWAYS HELPFUL, I THINK TO JUST GO OVER IT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
THE CITY CODE PROHIBITS BORDER COMMISSIONS FROM MEETING AND CLOSE SESSIONS WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL TO CITY ATTORNEY.
I DON'T THINK THAT HAS BEEN HASTEN THIS, BUT JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE IN CASE YOU EVER DO WANT TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AT ADVANCE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC.
AN INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBER IS NOT PERMITTED TO ACT IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY EXCEPT THROUGH ACTION OF A BOARD MAJORITY.
SO IF YOU ARE REPRESENTING THE BOARDER COMMISSION, THE BOARD OF PERMISSION NEEDS TO HAVE APPROVED THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BE STANDING UP FOR THEM IN WHATEVER CAPACITY.
A BOARD CANNOT CREATE A JOINT COMMITTEE WITH ANOTHER BOARD UNLESS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL TO DO SO.
MEETINGS HAVE A HARD STOP AT 10:00 PM.
HOWEVER, YOU CAN TAKE A MAJORITY VOTE TO CONTINUE PAST 10:00 PM IF NEEDED, BUT YOU'LL SEE COUNCIL EVEN DO THIS WHEN THEY HIT THAT HOUR.
AND THEY OFTEN HIT THAT HOUR, THEY WILL TAKE A VOTE TO EXTEND, EXTEND THEIR TIME.
ALSO, YOU DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADOPT SPECIAL RULES.
THERE AREN'T VERY MANY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT HAVE ADOPTED SPECIAL RULES, BUT YOU CAN DO THAT.
UH, MAYBE ABOUT SPEAKERS, IF YOU WANT LIKE REGISTRATION ADVANCE, OR IF YOU ARE TRYING TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS FOR GENERAL CITIZEN COMMUNICATION, YOU CAN ADOPT SOME SPECIAL RULES THERE.
THEY JUST NEED TO BE MADE PUBLIC.
SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD TAKE AT A BOARD MEETING.
YOU WOULD TAKE AN ACTION TO ADOPT SOME SPECIAL RULES, AND THEN WE WOULD POST THEM ON YOUR WEBSITE IN ADVANCE.
THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF IT BECAUSE CAN'T HAVE ANY SECRET BOARD RULES THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT.
WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THIS IN TRAINING BECAUSE THERE ARE AROUND US AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THEM.
BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE PASSIONATE.
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EVERY SINGLE ONE IS PASSIONATE AND WE VALUE ALL OF THEIR OPINIONS.THEY ARE CONSIDERED EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELDS.
WE KNOW YOU'RE SPENDING TIME, YOUR VALUABLE RESOURCES AND TIME ON THIS, AND WE APPRECIATE IT AND WE NEED IT, BUT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ALSO COULD PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INSIGHTS.
I ALWAYS SUGGEST, AND I HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF TOO, TO CONSIDER OTHER POINTS OF VIEW.
DON'T IMMEDIATELY JUST DISMISS THINGS.
AND ALSO DON'T CONFUSE PERSONAL AGENDAS WITH WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY OF THE CITY OF CITY, OF THE AUSTIN CITY OF AUSTIN, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE ALL HERE FOR.
I DID IT AND I DID IT VERY QUICKLY.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR IF YOU, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN CLARIFY, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO SO BECAUSE WE HAVE A MEETING ON MONDAY, THERE'S OFTEN QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
IT'S STEPHANIE, THIS JOANNE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR THE REFRESHER.
I HAPPEN TO WATCH THE EFFECTS THINGS THIS AFTERNOON BEFORE I GOT THE EMAIL THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO WATCH IT.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION ON IT STATING IF YOU ABSTAIN ON AN ISSUE DUE TO SAY A RELATIONSHIP WITH A GROUP OR SOMETHING, UM, ARE YOU REQUIRED TO ALWAYS DO IT FROM THAT POINT FORWARD? OR CAN YOU JUST DO IT HERE AND THERE, THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE TO PUNT TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
AND SO I THINK THINGS GET A LITTLE GRAY AND FUZZY THERE.
AND IF ANYONE HAD THAT QUESTION, I WOULD SAY, I WOULD REACH OUT TO THE ETHICS AND COMPLIANCE TEAM AND ASK BECAUSE IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT UPON WHAT THE CONFLICT IS.
AND THEN IT'S DEPENDENT UPON THE SPECIFIC ITEM.
AND I WOULDN'T MAKE THE CALL FOR ANYONE TO ABSTAIN OR NOT TO STAY ABSTAIN OR TO RECUSE THERE.
I MEAN, IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND.
THERE ARE THINGS IN CITY CODE THAT ARE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHEN YOU DO HAVE TO RECUSE, THERE ARE SPECIFIC OUTLINES WHEN YOU MEET A CERTAIN THRESHOLD OF SUBSTANTIAL INTEREST ASSUMPTIONS ON THE ABSTENTIONS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST ABSTAIN BECAUSE THEY JUST FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD, OR THEY WANT TO.
SO THAT ONE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TRICKY, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY REFER SOMEONE TO THE ETHICS AND COMPLIANCE TEAM.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? SORRY, GO AHEAD.
UM, BECAUSE OUR MEETING FALLS ON A MONDAY, WE OFTEN GET THE QUESTION WHERE DOES SATURDAY AND SUNDAY FALL INTO THE 72 HOUR AGENDA DEADLINE.
DOES THAT COUNT? AND ALSO WITH THE, UH, UH, THE FIVE DAYS OR MORE TO ADD AN AGENDA ITEM.
SO WOULD YOU FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL, PLEASE CLARIFY THAT FOR ALL OF US.
SO SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS ARE COUNTED.
UH, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT TRICKIER BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE POSTING WHEN WE ACTUALLY POST.
SO THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK POSTS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, TWICE A DAY AT 10:00 AM AND 3:00 PM.
SO REALLY THE LAST POSTING AVAILABILITY BEFORE THE WEEKEND IS FRIDAY AT 3:00 PM.
SO IF YOU HAVE A MEETING ON MONDAY OR TUESDAY, IF YOU HAVE A MEETING MONDAY MORNING OR TUESDAY MORNING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE POSTED, BUT FRIDAY BY 10:00 AM, BUT OTHERWISE IT'S SIX XPM NORMALLY TYPICALLY MEETING WOULD BE FRIDAY 3:00 PM, FRIDAY 3:00 PM.
THE FIVE BUSINESS DAYS IS A GUIDELINE.
THE REASON THAT FIVE BUSINESS DAYS IS THERE IS TO ALLOW THE LIAISON ENOUGH TIME TO WORK WITH THE CHAIR AND WORK WITH ANY ANYONE ELSE.
SHE GET THAT AGENDA FINALIZED BECAUSE THE 72 HOURS IS NON-NEGOTIABLE.
SO YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER TO GET THAT AGENDA READY.
UH, THE FIVE DAYS IS NOT A HARD AND FAST RULE, BUT DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE REALLY WOULD ENCOURAGE.
AND I WOULD ALWAYS SAY, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO GET YOUR ITEMS IN AT LEAST FIVE MONDAY, WELL, MONDAY 6:00 PM MEETING.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE FLEXIBLE DAY TO ME THAT FIVE DAYS.
SO I WOULD S I WOULD DEFINITELY TRY TO DO A FIVE BUSINESS DAY BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE MOST HELPFUL, BUT THE, THE NON-NEGOTIABLE IS 72 HOURS.
SO, UH, BELINDA, WE WOULD AGREE THAT BY THE END OF THE DAY ON MONDAY, THE WEEK WE'VE BEEN DOING YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION PALMER.
UM, I WAS WONDERING, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH Y'ALL REGARDING AN EMAIL WE RECEIVED ABOUT REQUESTING INFORMATION FROM STAFF.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD GET CLARIFICATION FOR LIKE THE WHOLE COMMISSION REGARDING WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO ASK FOR AND HOW THAT'S WORDED, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN AN EMAIL GO BACK OUT.
THAT'S KIND OF BEEN CLARITY, CLARIFYING, UM, WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED AND NOT ALLOWED TO DO.
I'LL TAKE A STAB AND THEN MYRNA CAN STAB IS PROBABLY NOT THE RIGHT WORD I SHOULD SAY.
UM, I JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
SO, AND ONE OF THE SLIDES KIND OF COVERED THIS A LITTLE BIT.
THE S THE STAFF IS A REQUIRED TO
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PROVIDE INFORMATION THAT IS CODIFIED IN CODE.SO THAT IS THE REQUIREMENT WITH THAT SAID, BOARDING COMMISSIONS CAN ASK ANYTHING OF STAFF, THE ISSUE COMES DOWN TO, IS IT SOMETHING THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE? AND IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES TO PROVIDE? AND I THINK THAT JUST DEPENDS.
SO THERE'S NOTHING REALLY PROHIBITING COMMISSIONERS FROM ASKING STAFF TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.
YOU CAN'T DIRECT STAFF TO DO THAT, UNLESS COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED IT.
UM, AND I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING TO STAFF.
I THINK STAFF, IF THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION AND THAT'S SOMETHING, THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES AND THE ABILITY TO DO, THEN I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THEY SHOULD PROVIDE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE CASE.
AND HOPEFULLY THEY'RE, THEY'RE HONEST ABOUT THE RESOURCES THERE AND WHAT CAN WE PROVIDE AND WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT IS REALLY THE TIME CONSTRAINTS DOES THAT KIND OF HELP? AND I APPRECIATE IT.
I REALLY JUST WANT A CLARIFICATION THAT WE CAN ASK.
SO I THINK THERE'S THAT I HAD THE OKAY TO ASK, BUT THAT WAS IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, RIGHT.
I HAVE A COUPLE, THE FIRST IS, UM, AS I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS SUGGESTED THAT YOU'RE HERE TO CORRECT US BECAUSE OF A PERCEIVED, UM, UH, IMPROPRIETY OF THE BOARD OF THIS COMMISSION.
CAN YOU CLARIFY WHETHER YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE OF SOME IMPROPRIETY IN THE, OF THE COMMISSION IN THE PAST? UM, WE ARE NOT HERE AT THE REQUEST OF ANYONE WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WELL, JUST OUR OFFICE, UM, DUE TO THE, ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO FIELD WITH REGARD TO ITEMS IN THE PAST THAT HAVE, UM, BEEN ON THE AGENDA, OR YOU HAVE, UM, WHERE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MISCOMMUNICATION.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOME MEMBERS HAVE GONE STRAIGHT TO, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THE LAW DEPARTMENT, AND THEN THERE HAS BEEN A MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE LAW DEPARTMENT, CONTACT AND STAFF.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE CORRECT PEOPLE WERE NOT BEING INVOLVED OR INCLUDED IN COMMUNICATION.
UM, AGAIN ALSO WITH REGARD TO THE WAY, UH, SOME OF THE PROCESSES WERE BEING MANAGED.
FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THEM BEING A BYLAW REQ, YOU KNOW, CHANGE, THERE IS A PROCESS TO FOLLOW THAT WE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST TRAINED ON AND IT WASN'T FOLLOWED.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT ITEM STANDS BECAUSE IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS.
IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE CLERK PROCESS OR THE, YOU KNOW, AUDIT AND FINANCE AND, UM, DIDN'T FOLLOW THE APPROPRIATE STEPS.
SO I DON'T KNOW, I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHERE THAT ITEM CURRENTLY STANDS.
UM, EVEN THOUGH IT WENT BEFORE THE AUDIT AND FINANCE, I HAVEN'T SEEN IT GO THROUGH, UM, TO THE COUNCIL.
SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT, UM, WE HAVE BEEN GETTING MANY QUESTIONS, UM, ON, FROM, UH, MEMBERS, FROM STAFF, FROM, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
AND SO WE FELT, UM, THAT IT WAS NECESSARY.
AND I BELIEVE A FEW MONTHS AGO, STEPHANIE REACHED OUT TO THE CHAIR AND TO STAFF AND SAID, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE PROVIDE A, AN OVERVIEW, BUT WE DIDN'T HEAR BACK.
THEN WE S WE BEGAN GETTING MORE INQUIRIES AND QUESTIONS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED REALIZING THAT THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO PROCESSES.
AND SO WE ASKED TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA, THE CLERK'S OFFICE, WE WERE NOT ASKED BY THE PUBLIC.
WE WERE NOT ASKED BY STAFF OR COUNCIL OFFICES.
I THINK I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
THE QUESTION WAS, WERE YOU HERE TO CORRECT SOME IMPROPRIETY THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT WE HAD DONE WRONG? THIS COMMISSION, WE ARE NOT AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING, WE ARE IMPARTIAL.
I MEAN, IF YOU CAN SAY NO, IF YOU'RE NOT HERE TO CORRECT AN IMPROPRIETY.
UM, SPECIFICALLY ON THE, UH, THE CODE, THE COMMITTEE, WE WERE TOLD BY COUNCIL THAT WE HAD DONE IT CORRECTLY.
SO, AND THAT CITY, THAT THE LAW DEPARTMENT, UM, SAID THAT WE CONCLUDED THAT WE HAD DONE IT CORRECTLY.
SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK BACK ON THAT.
UM, WE HAVE HAD COMMUNICATIONS WITH THAT OFFICE, BUT AGAIN, UM, THE, THE PROCESS HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED.
UM, IT'S STILL HAS TO GO BEFORE THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE WITH REGARD TO THE WHAT'S CODIFIED, UM, IN YOUR BYLAWS AND THAT HAS YET TO HAPPEN.
SO THERE IS A COMMITTEE, BUT, UM, IT, THE COUNCIL HAS NOT APPROVED, TAKEN ACTION TO, UM, FOR THE COMMITTEE TO BEGIN MEETING.
AGAIN, MY QUESTION WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU ANSWERED, AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
UH, AND IT WAS REALLY JUST MORE OF A COMMENT, BUT YOU HAD SAID IN RESPONSE TO MY INITIAL QUESTION THAT WE HAD DONE, WE HAD NOT GONE THROUGH THE CORRECT PROCESS.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ALERT YOU THAT
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THE, WE WERE INFORMED BY COUNSEL THAT THE CITY LAW DEPARTMENT HAD CONCLUDED THAT WE IN FACT, DID GO THROUGH THE CORRECT.I'VE SPOKEN TO THAT COUNCIL OFFICE.
AND I SPOKEN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND IT WAS, IT'S NOT THE PROCESS THAT WE TYPICALLY FOLLOW, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT AWARE OF WHERE THAT ITEM STANDS.
SO IF YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION ARE WONDERING HOW TO MOVE FORWARD, YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONTACT THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BECAUSE IT WASN'T, IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PROCESS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THE RED LINE VERSIONS.
WE DON'T HAVE, UM, WE DIDN'T THAT PROCESS WASN'T FOLLOWED.
SO OUR OFFICE IS NOT AWARE OF WHAT, UM, YOU ALL WERE, UH, REQUESTING.
AND SO WE'RE JUST TURNING THAT PIECE OVER TO THE, UH, ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, SINCE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO WENT AHEAD AND PROCEEDED WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMITTEE.
AND JUST FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY SAKE, THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS THE ONES WHO PROVIDED US.
THE CITY LAW DEPARTMENT IS THE ONES WHO PROVIDED US WITH THE LANGUAGE TO USE.
SO, UM, THE CHAIR DID EXACTLY AS THE CITY LAW DEPARTMENT ASKED THE CHAIR TO DO, UM, ON THAT, THAT ONE, UM, I'M SORRY.
I DO JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE, JUST, SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, THERE WAS A SCRIPT THAT WAS ISSUED AND THAT SCRIPT WAS NOT USED, AND THAT WAS THE PROBLEM THAT IT CAUSED FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
SO THERE WAS A SCRIPT I SAW THE SCRIPT BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT THAT IS NOT THE SCRIPT THAT CAME OUT DURING THE MEETING.
AND THAT'S WHAT CAUSED THE ISSUE.
BUT LIKE MYRNA SAID, WE HAD SPOKEN ILLEGAL ABOUT THIS LEGAL HAS TAKEN UP THE ISSUE AND THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH IT WITH COUNSEL.
IT JUST WAS THE POINT IS THAT, DID IT GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS? AND THAT INITIAL SCRIPT THAT WAS FIRST SIGNED OFF BY LEGAL ABOUT HOW DO WE CREATE THIS COMMITTEE THAT JUST WASN'T THE SCRIPT THAT WAS USED THAT NIGHT, THAT'S WHERE THE ISSUE CAME OUT.
BUT YEAH, AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, UM, WE, THE, IN MY UNDERSTANDING THE CHAIR CAN, CAN, UM, CHIME IN, CAUSE HE WAS THE ONE THAT, THAT, UH, DID IT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THE CHAIR UNDERSTOOD THAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO READ WORD FOR WORD, UM, AN EMAIL THAT WAS GIVEN TO HIM, BUT HE DID, UM, SUMMARIZE IT.
AND I, I THINK SO CORRECTLY, BUT CRAIG, YOU CAN CHIME IN ON THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE SCRIPT WAS ABSOLUTELY WORD TO WORD TO BE READ THAT WAY.
UM, SO I DIDN'T READ THOSE EXACT WORDS AND, UM, AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE SO THAT WE CAN CLARIFY ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT MISCOMMUNICATION AND PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE EVER ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US.
AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE ARE HERE PROVIDING, UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UM, WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE THAT ADD UP OVERVIEW TRAINING.
UM, ONE MORE QUESTION ON RELATED TO, UM, NON-STAFF PERSONS TALKING DURING STAFF BRIEF BRIEFING, UM, I GUESS IT'S BEEN A MONTH OR TWO SINCE, UM, UH, THE CHAIR HAD ASKED FOR, UH, DR.
JEFFERSON TO BE, UH, AVAILABLE TO SPEAK, UM, DURING A STAFF BRIEFING AND WE WERE TOLD NOT, OKAY, YOU NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.
BUT ANOTHER PERSON ASKED FOR DR.
JEFFERSON TO BE AVAILABLE, TO SPEAK TODAY DURING STAFF BRIEFING AND THEN IMMEDIATELY WENT ON THE AGENDA UNDER STAFF BRIEFING.
SO WHY IS IT THAT WHEN SOME PEOPLE ASK FOR THE DR.
JEFFERSON TO BE AVAILABLE DURING STAFF BRIEFING, WE'RE TOLD THAT SHE CANNOT BE, BUT WHEN OTHERS THEN SHE'S WERE TOLD THAT, THAT SHE CAN, OKAY.
SO I BELIEVE I KNOW OF THE ORIG ORIGINAL REQUESTS A FEW MONTHS AGO, MAN, TIME IS FLYING CRAZY.
AND I THINK THE POSTING, THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE POSTING OF THAT ITEM.
AND I KNOW THAT I WASN'T AWARE UNTIL AFTER THE FACT, THE INTENT OF THAT ACTUAL POSTING.
AND I BELIEVE WE'VE TALKED TO THE CHAIR ABOUT THIS AND WE TRIED TO CLARIFY THAT THAT SITUATION THAT HAPPENED BEFORE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING AGAIN, WHILE WE'RE HERE, WHY WE ARE HERE NOW AS THE, THE, THE QUESTION ABOUT STAFF, IT'S NOT THAT I'D OUTSIDE ENTITY CAN'T SPEAK DURING A BRIEFING.
THEY CERTAINLY CAN, BUT YOU WOULDN'T COMBINE A STAFF WITH AN OUTSIDE ENTITY BRIEFING UNLESS THAT'S CLEARLY OUTLINED.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT THERE WOULD BE TWO ITEMS IF THERE WAS A STAFF UPDATE OF SOME SORT THAT THAT WOULD BE THE ONE ITEM.
AND THEN IF THERE WAS AN, A BRIEFING FROM ANOTHER ENTITY THAT, THAT, THAT WAS A SECOND ITEM, THAT WOULD OUR RECOMMENDATION.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT EXACTLY ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, BUT SO IN THE FUTURE, IF, IF THE CHAIR WANTED, UM, ON NON-STAFF PERSON TO SPEAK DURING ANY STAFF BRIEFING TIME, HE JUST NEEDS TO SAY, I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO BE ON THE AGENDA DURING NINE DURING STAFF BRIEFING TIME.
YEAH, IT WOULDN'T SAY STAFF BRIEFING THERE PROBABLY AS A CATEGORY.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALSO WORK OUT TO.
THE AGENDA TEMPLATE GETS UPDATED REGULARLY.
WE TRY TO WORK OUT SOME OF THE KINKS, BUT
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IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT, I MIGHT ADD SOMETHING Y'ALL DR.JEFFERSON WAS NOT ASKED TO SPEAK DIRECTLY.
WHAT WE WERE DOING WAS GIVING THE AUSTIN PETS ALIVE, QUARTERLY REPORT.
UH, I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION WHEN WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS SAY, COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED US.
THAT MEANS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT TO US SECOND, BUT WHEN THEY LET ME, LET ME TRY TO FINISH ANSWERING THIS QUESTION, THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO SOMETHING.
SO, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LOSE MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE, THE, THERE SHOULD, THERE IS OFTEN AN ITEM THAT'S BRIEFINGS AND UNDER BRIEFINGS, YOU CAN HAVE A VARIETY OF THINGS.
THERE COULD BE ONE THAT STAFF, AND THERE COULD BE ONE THAT IS NOT STAFFED.
IF, IF YOU FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS TO GET AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND A COMMISSIONER HAS A SPONSOR, THERE IS NO REASON WHY THAT ITEM WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA.
THE THING THAT I WOULD REQUEST THAT TO BE CLEAR IS IF WE ARE WANTING SOMEONE TO COME AND PRESENT, WE JUST BE REALLY CLEAR THAT WE WOULD WANT SOMEONE TO PRESENT.
SO AN OUTSIDE ENTITY IS COMING TO GIVE A BRIEFING.
DO WE EXPECT THAT SOMEONE IS COMING TO GIVE THE BRIEFING? THAT'S ALL.
AND, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA AND THE REASON WHY I WAS LOOKING AT IT TO SEE THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
AND SO WHAT I RECOMMEND FOR BRIEFINGS IS THAT YOU NOT INCLUDE OR BE SPECIFIC AS IN STAFF BRIEFINGS, JUST MAKE THE CATEGORY BRIEFINGS.
THEN YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, UM, BE SPECIFIC TO EACH ITEM AND SAY, STAFF BRIEFING ON SUCH AND SUCH, AND THEN SAY, WHO WILL BE PRESENTING, UM, OR IF IT'S, UM, A BRIEFING FROM THE APA AND THEN ADD A NAME OR WHOEVER WILL BE PRESENTING.
UM, SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU REMOVE STAFF AND JUST MAKE THE CATEGORY BRIEFINGS.
I THINK SOME OF THE, UH, THE CONFUSION HERE IS THAT OUR COMMISSION IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM MOST OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT WERE SET UP BY THE STATE AND THAT WE HAVE JURISDICTION FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
SO WHEN WE SAY STAFF BRIEFING, YEAH.
THAT DOESN'T JUST MEAN THE CITY STAFF.
WE ALSO HAVE JURORS, UH, SOME KIND OF JURISDICTION TO GET INFORMATION FROM OTHER SHELTERS.
THAT'S ALSO IN THE STATE LAW, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHICH MEANS IT MAY BE PUTTING STAFF BRIEFING.
MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST CALL IT BRIEFING.
AND SO WHEN WE ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT BRIEFING FROM PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ASK A BRIEFING FROM, IT JUST GOES UNDER THERE.
AND, BUT I THINK THIS VERY CLEAR, WE JUST DON'T MIX THE TWO UP.
SO IF I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO GO.
AND THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME TOO, THAT WE JUST GET RID OF STAFF AND PUT BRIEFING AND THEN NAME WHOMEVER WE WANT TO, TO BE AVAILABLE FOR BRIEFING, IF THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM.
AND THEN LAST ON DATA AND I, AND PALMER ASKED ABOUT IT, BUT JUST FOR ALL TIME'S SAKE, TO BE CLEAR AGAIN, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION MANY TIMES YOU, AND I'VE HAD IT MANY TIMES, BUT A COMMISSIONER CAN ASK FOR ANY INFORMATION THAT THE COMMISSIONER WANTS, CORRECT? YES.
THE, THE STAFF DOES NOT HAVE TO ANSWER IF, UNLESS IT'S REQUIRED TO, BY A CITY ORDINANCE OR A STATE LAW.
SO IF, UH, IF A REPORT IS RUN, THEN IT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY REQUIRED UNDER STATE LAW, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE AN OPEN RECORD IF, IF A REPORT ALREADY EXISTS.
BUT, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THE, THAT IF THE COMMISSION ASKS FOR A REPORT THAT IS NOT ALREADY RUN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE, THAT WOULD REQUIRE WORK AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO DO ANYTHING.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCES.
HAS COUNSEL PROVIDED DIRECTION OR ACTION.
IS THIS IN CODE VERSUS IS IT SOMETHING NEW THAT NEEDS TO BE THAT'S RIGHT.
SO FOR THE TRANSPARENCY ORDINANCE, THAT'S DIRECTED BY COUNSEL SO THAT WE CAN ASK FOR THOSE AND WE SHOULD GET THOSE.
YOU SHOULD GET THOSE, GET UPDATES ON THOSE, ET CETERA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, BELINDA.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WILL SAY TO US IN THESE MEETINGS, COUNSEL, ASK US COUNCIL DIRECTED US.
AND OF COURSE, FOR THOSE OF US ON STAFF, THAT HAS A VERY SPECIFIC MEANING.
ARE WE ALLOWED TO QUESTION WHEN THOSE KINDS OF COMMENTS ARE MADE? I DON'T EXACTLY KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY QUESTION.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IF COUNCIL ASKS OR NOT.
WE NEED TO KNOW IF THERE'S SPONSORS ON THE COMMISSION.
UM, YOU, US, IF COUNCIL TAKES ACTION, WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE APPRISED OF THAT.
THEY'RE NOT THROUGH THE COMMISSION.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET CONFUSED.
I THINK YOU COULD ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, IF THERE'S A REFERENCE TO A RESOLUTION OR TO AN ORDINANCE THAT YOU'RE NOT AWARE OF.
CERTAINLY, BUT I, YES, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF COUNCIL HAS TAKEN ACTION, YOU WOULD KNOW, BUT I JUST WOULD WANT TO BE CLEAR ON WHAT, WHAT IS THE QUESTION ABOUT, IS IT ABOUT AGENDA ITEM? IS IT ABOUT THAT? THAT KIND OF THING.
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OKAY.YOU'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND VERY GOOD.
AND I ALSO, I WENT TO THEIR ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER SYMPOSIUM LAST FRIDAY, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS EXCELLENT THAT GUY, THAT GUY WHO'S THERE.
[2d. IT/Data Presentation, Austin Public Health IT]
DATA PRESENTATION, AUSTIN, PUBLIC HEALTH, IT HELLO.UH, MY NAME IS
IT, UM, ASO FALLS UNDER, UM, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH.
SO GIVE YOU A BRIEF INTRODUCTION OF, UM, SOME DATA REQUESTS THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING.
UM, SO BACK IN 2019, WE HAD THE ORDINANCE THAT CAME OUT WITH SOME NEW DATA REPORTING THAT WAS MANDATED, UM, RIGHT AROUND THEM.
WE STARTED WORKING WITH ASO TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE GATHER ALL OF THE DATA REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET THAT ORDINANCE MANDATE, UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT BEFORE COVID HAPPENED THAT PERSON AND IN MY TEAM THAT WAS WORKING WITH THEM, UM, RESIGNED AND ACTUALLY MOVED ON TO A DIFFERENT CITY POSITION.
UM, AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY COVID HAPPENED AND ALSO THAT HIRING FREEZE.
SO, UM, WE EVENTUALLY HIRED THE REPLACEMENT AROUND NOVEMBER OF 2020, WHERE WE STARTED MAKING SURE THAT THAT TRANSITION HANDED HANDED OFF FROM, UM, THE EMPLOYEE THAT LEFT TO THE NEW ONE.
UM, IT WAS A LITTLE STRANGE BECAUSE NOW THEY WORKED IN TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
HOWEVER, UM, WE GOT A LITTLE BIT DONE THERE.
UM, THE PERSON THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO ASO TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, EVERYTHING IS MET FOR THEM WAS ALSO CURRENTLY, OR WAS ALSO ON THE COVID, UM, RESPONSE.
AND SO THAT DELAYED A LOT OF THE SUPPORT FOR ASO.
UM, HE CONTINUES TO BE ON THE RESPONSE AT LEAST 20 TO 30 HOURS A WEEK SOMETIMES.
UM, BUT IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR OF 21, WE ASKED CTM WHO'S, UH, COMMUNICATIONS TECHNOLOGY MANAGEMENT.
THERE ARE WHAT WE CALL CORPORATE IT, UH, TO HELP OUT WITH SOME RESOURCES AND THEY, THEY IMMEDIATELY STEPPED IN AND GAVE US SOME EXTRA IT RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MET SOME OF THESE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO AROUND MAY, IN THE, UH, APRIL, BEGINNING OF MAY, WE PRESENTED SOME METRICS TO ASO FOR MONTHLY AND YEARLY REPORTING FOR THEIR INTERNAL NEEDS AND THEN STARTED GATHERING SOME REQUIREMENTS AROUND WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF WE WANTED TO PRESENT THE METRICS FOR THE ORDINANCE, THAT KID THAT CAME THROUGH? SO WE, WE COMPLETED THAT IN JULY OF 21.
UM, AND IT'S STILL IN REVIEW BECAUSE THERE ARE A FEW OF THE METRICS THAT, UH, UH, CALCULATIONS ARE, ARE IN, IN PROCESS.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, GOOD REQUIREMENTS FOR WHAT WE NEED TO PRESENT TO, UM, OR FOR THE ORDINANCE, UM, AND MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY START PRESENTING TO PEOPLE.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MR. COLLINS, WHO HAS A PRESENTATION TO GIVE YOU, UM, TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON SINCE ABOUT FEBRUARY OF 21.
CAN EVERYONE SEE MY SCREEN? OKAY.
VERY SMALL, CHRIS, THAT IT'S VERY SMALL ON THE SCREEN.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ALL THE GREAT FOLKS OVER AT ASO TO BRING THESE METRICS TO LIFE.
I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT WE HAVE A, AN OLDER SYSTEM CALLED CHAMELEON THAT RUNS MOST OF THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.
AND, UM, IT'S BEEN DUE FOR AN UPDATE FOR A LONG TIME.
AND I KNOW, UH, QUITE A FEW OF YOU ARE ON AN EMAIL THAT GOES OUT EVERY EVENING THAT DELIVERS PDF REPORTS.
AND SO IN AN EFFORT TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT AND MAKE THIS AVAILABLE, NOT ONLY TO YOU GUYS, BUT THE
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PUBLIC, WE HAVE DECIDED TO TRANSITION TO A POWER BI MODEL, AND THAT WILL MAKE INTERACTING WITH THE REPORTS MUCH MORE INTERACTIVE.SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT STATE THAT WE HAVE HERE.
UH, NOTICE IT'S ON THE ANIMAL SERVICES SHAREPOINT SITE.
SO ON THE FIRST PAGE, WE HAVE THE DEFINITION OF ALL OF THE METRICS AND FOR ANY METRIC THAT SOMEONE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT, THESE ARE FOLLOWING IN NUMERICAL ORDER FROM THE CITY ORDINANCE.
YOU JUST HAVE TO CLICK ON THE TAB AND YOU GET YOUR METRICS.
MOST OF THE REPORTS FOLLOW THE SAME FORMAT.
SO AT THE TOP, WE'LL HAVE AN AREA WHERE YOU CAN CHOOSE YOUR FISCAL YEAR.
THIS WILL ACCEPT INPUT MANUALLY, OR YOU CAN DRAG THE SLIDERS AROUND.
THIS PARTICULAR REPORT HAS A MAP THAT SHOWS THE HOT ZIP CODES ON WHERE WE'RE GETTING INTAKES FROM.
IF I WANTED TO EXPORT ANY OF THIS DATA, I CAN GO HERE AND I CAN EXPORT THIS DATA TO EXCEL.
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING TO SEND YOU GUYS A PDF FILES THAT ARE HARD TO MANIPULATE OR LOOK AT HISTORICALS OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD A REPORT, WE CAN NOW EXPORT THE UNDER THE SUMMARIZED DATA.
AND IF ANY MANAGER OR, UM, COMMISSIONER WANTED TO SEE THE ENTIRETY OF THE DATA, WE COULD RUN A DIFFERENT REPORT THAT WILL PROVIDE YOU ALL THE UNDERLYING DATA.
WE DON'T MAKE THAT AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO CLICK ON BECAUSE IT, IT RUNS HUGE QUERIES THAT WILL REALLY SLOW THE SYSTEM DOWN.
SO, AND THIS ONE, WE'VE GOT THE FISCAL YEAR SLIDER AT THE TOP.
THIS IS FOR ANIMALS EUTHANIZED.
SO I CAN PICK THE DATE RANGE THAT I WANT TO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT DROP-DOWNS, WE'LL HAVE THE CONTEXT AND ALL OF THE CONTEXT IS EXPLICIT TO THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE.
SO IT DOESN'T GIVE EVERY OPTION THAT MIGHT BE INSIDE OF CHAMELEON.
THIS PARTICULAR SET ONLY DEALS WITH THE DEFINITIONS AS PER THE CITY ORDINANCE, BY MAKE A SELECTION IN HERE, THE CHARTS WILL UPDATE ACCORDING TO THE SELECTIONS THAT I'M CHOOSING.
AND THEN I, IF I WANTED TO, I COULD EXPORT THAT DATA LIVE RELEASE RATE.
THIS ONE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S A GOAL OF 95%.
SO AS LONG AS WE ARE WITHIN THE GOLD PARAMETER, THIS LITTLE DONUT HERE WILL BE GREEN.
UM, WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE COLORS ON THIS.
THIS IS JUST SOME COLOR FORMATTING THAT THE, UM, THE SYSTEM DOES AUTOMATICALLY, SOME REPORTS WE'LL HAVE A TABLE OF DATA SO THAT WE CAN DIVE DEEPER INTO ALL OF THE FIELDS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED AND RELEVANT TO THAT PARTICULAR REPORT.
AND AGAIN, THAT DATA, AND THESE CAN ALSO BE EXPORTED.
AND IT'S ALL CONTEXT SENSITIVE AS TO WHAT'S IN THE DATA SET THAT I'M LOOKING AT.
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING TO OPEN CHAMELEON, BROWSE THROUGH THE SYSTEM, TRY TO FIND THE REPORT AND THEN EXPORT A PDF FILE.
UM, THIS IS ALL PRETTY INSTANTANEOUS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS LEVEL OF REPORTING? I JUST HAVE THE QUESTION OF WHEN WILL IT BE READY? SO WE ARE CURRENTLY THIS TODAY.
UM, WE DO MAKE SURE THAT WE DOUBLE CHECK SOME OF THE NUMBERS AGAINST EXISTING REPORTS AND OTHER DATA SOURCES.
WE HAVE FOUND A FEW, UH, BUGS I'LL SHOW YOU SOMETHING THAT, UH, AN EXTRA, WE ACTUALLY HAD TO GO THROUGH CHAMELEON AND MAP EVERY SINGLE FIELD AND DATA ELEMENT.
AND BECAUSE WE USE CHAMELEON AND A LITTLE NON-STANDARD WAY, WE'RE HAVING TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH THE ANIMAL SERVICES TEAMS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SPIRIT OF THE METRICS THAT YOU WANT ARE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING.
WE HOPE WILL BE READY IN A FEW WEEKS.
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WE'RE ONLY A WEEK OR TWO AWAY FROM HAVING ALL OF OUR CURRENT BUGS SQUASHED ON, UH, THE INTERNAL VERSION.AND THEN I BELIEVE WE SENT YOU GUYS A POWERPOINT THAT IS SHOWING YOU SOME MOCK-UPS OF WHAT THE PUBLIC VERSION WILL LOOK LIKE.
THE PLAN FOR THE PUBLIC VERSION IN A FEW WEEKS IS TO HAVE IT LINKED ON THE HOMEPAGE OF THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER WEBSITE OVER HERE BY PARTNERS WITH A MENU ITEM THAT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE PUBLIC DASHBOARD, AND THEY WILL HAVE A SIMILAR WAY TO INTERACT WITH THE SYSTEM.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE MOCK-UPS THAT WE PROVIDED, WE'VE STRIPPED DOWN SOME OF THE FEATURES, SO THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO EXPORT THE DATA.
THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO, UM, PIVOT THE DATA OUT AND DRILL IN.
SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE FEATURES OF SOME OF THESE IS THAT YOU CAN, DOUBLE-CLICK ON A PIE CHART, OR YOU CAN DOUBLE-CLICK ON A CHART, UM, AND DO A DRILL DOWN ON SOME OF THE ITEMS. SO WE'RE GOING TO DISABLE THAT FEATURE FOR THE PUBLIC AND, AND THEY WILL JUST SEE THE STRAIGHT DEFINITION OF THE METRIC AS PROVIDED BY COUNCIL.
I DON'T WANT TO PROMISE A DATE, BUT I, I REALLY FEEL LIKE WE'RE REAL CLOSE.
THIS IS MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION, BUT I THINK THAT'S AWESOME.
UM, WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING TOGETHER AND, UM, W W IF THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED AND IT CAN BE PUT OUT THAT WAY THAT WILL, UH, IN, IN MY MIND, BRING US TO WHAT WE, WHAT WE WANTED, UM, WHEN THIS GOT PASSED.
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY TERRIFIC.
UH, WHEN JASON, DO YOU THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THE WELL, WELL, I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION WHEN WE GET TO IT ON THE AGENDA.
SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT.
SO, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO SHOW YOU IS KIND OF THE FIRST ITERATION THAT WE WENT THROUGH ON THIS.
UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AT THIS A LONG TIME, IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN, UM, JUST MAKING A PDF FILE.
SO WE ORIGINALLY STARTED OFF BY TRANSITIONING THE MONTHLY AND YEARLY REPORTS, UH, THAT THE STAFF HAD TO RUN TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO YOU, BUT ALSO TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS.
UM, SO THEY DO ALSO HAVE THESE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
HOWEVER, THESE ARE NOT BUILT OFF OF THE CORE DEFINITION OF THE METRICS THAT WERE MANDATED FROM CD'S FROM CITY COUNCIL.
THESE WERE THE FORMULAS AND METRICS THAT WERE DEFINED BEFORE THAT ORDINANCE.
SO, UM, WE STILL DO USE IT, UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S NICE TO GO IN HERE AND BE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THESE PARTICULAR, UH, REPORTS QUICKLY.
UM, BUT ON SOME THINGS THAT ARE LIKE THE, THE CITY COUNCIL MANDATED REPORT, WE DO HAVE TO GO OVER AND, UM, DOUBLE CHECK THAT WITH, WITH THESE REPORTS, BUT OUR MISSION WITHIN IT HAS BEEN TO HELP THEM MAKE THEIR DATA MORE ACCESSIBLE AND EASIER TO INTERACT WITH.
AND ONE OF THE LONG-TERM BENEFITS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM THIS IS THAT THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO GO CALL HLP EVERY TIME THEY WANT A NEW REPORT CREATED OR NEED TO ADJUST SOMETHING.
SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO DRAG AND DROP THINGS ONTO A PAGE AND CREATE A REPORT.
AND WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE TRAINING TO THE MANAGEMENT STAFF AND KEY SUPERVISORS, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN SELF HELP TO BUILD THESE THINGS, WHICH WILL MAKE RETRIEVING DATA FOR PLACES LIKE YOU GUYS WITH COMMISSION, UH, MUCH EASIER AND QUICK.
AND I'LL, WE'LL ADD JUST NOT INTERRUPT CHRIS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MOVING TOWARD POWER BI FROM CHAMELEON, THERE ARE STILL SOME REPORTS THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE USED WITH CHAMELEON, BUT WE'RE GOING TO, WE'VE SET UP A PROCESS OR WE'RE GOING TO SET UP A PROCESS OF ESSENTIALLY ANY NEW REPORTS CAN'T JUST BE REQUESTED BECAUSE THAT HAD BEEN HISTORICALLY THE CASE WITH, WITH, WITHIN THE SHELTER WHERE ANYBODY WOULD JUST SEND IN A TICKET TO IT, AND THEY WOULD CREATE A, UH, A REQUEST FOR A REPORT AND THEN REPORT BE GENERATED.
AND THEN NOBODY KNEW WHAT THIS WAS.
AND THEN SOMETIMES IF IT WASN'T DONE RIGHT, IT COULD MESS UP THE SYSTEM.
SO YOU HAD TO LIKE ENSURE THAT NOTHING WAS MESSED UP THIS ONE.
NOW WE'RE SETTING UP THE THING THAT IF THERE IS A DEFINITELY A REPORT THAT HAS TO FIT A BUSINESS, THEN IT CAN ONLY BE DONE THROUGH CHAMELEON.
THEN IT HAS TO BE RE GONE THROUGH THE CHAIN, GO THROUGH THE LEADERSHIP TEAM SO WE CAN VET IT OUT COMPLETELY AND THEN SUBMIT THAT TICKET TO IT SO THAT IT COULD BE BUILT CORRECTLY.
THEY'LL WORK WITH A, IF THEY NEED TO WORK WITH HLP IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE IN WELL, MAINLY WE'LL PROBABLY STILL JUST BE INTERNAL, BUT IT'S, IT'S A PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SET UP TO ENSURE WE HAVE SEAMLESS DATA.
AND THIS INFORMATION IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT I'VE BEEN LIFTING FROM HERE AND PUT IT ON THE SPREADSHEET.
SO I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT THIS IS CLOSE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH.
QUESTIONS, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US UP TO SPEED ON THIS.
SO, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT WON'T BE CAPTURED UNDER POWER BI, WILL YOU BE PROVIDING US WITH A REPORT OF WHICH OF THESE DATA POINTS THAT ARE IN THE ORDINANCE
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THAT ARE GOING TO BE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE REPORTED ON EVERYTHING IN THE ORDINANCE IS IN THIS, THIS IS IN THIS, THERE WILL BE NOTHING LEFT OUT FROM THE ORIGIN.SO EVEN LIKE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SPENT AT THE, UH, THIRD-PARTY PROVIDERS SERVICES FOR VET BILLS, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION WILL BE IN HERE.
YES, OUR GOAL IS TO GET IT IN THERE.
SO WE HAVE A PHASED APPROACH TO GETTING THE DATA THAT'S NOT CAPTURED IN CHAMELEON INTO POWER BI POWER.
AS LONG AS WE CAN GET OUR VENDORS TO CAPTURE THE INFORMATION IN THE SPREADSHEET, THAT SPREADSHEET CAN BE INGESTED INTO THE POWER BI METRICS.
SO WE WILL HAVE AN EXERCISE TO DO.
WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE SOME OF Y'ALL'S HELP, UH, IN WORKING WITH THOSE VENDORS, BUT IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT THE DATA COMES IN A FORMAT THAT WE CAN DIGEST.
AND, UM, NOT JUST LIKE A PAPER BILL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO AS LONG AS WE CAN GET THE DATA IN THOSE FORMATS, IT WILL BE IN PERFECT.
SO THAT, SO POWER BI WILL PULL FROM CHAMELEON AND THEN WHATEVER THESE SPREADSHEETS YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT NEEDS TO PULL FROM FOR THE REST OF THE INFORMATION, CORRECT.
AS LONG AS THEY'LL COOPERATE WITH US TO PUT IT IN SOME SORT OF A MORE DIGITAL FORMAT, THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ADJUST IT.
AND THEN WHEN SHOULD WE, I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THE METRICS WERE BUILT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AS FAR AS WHAT IT'S CAPTURING FOR LIKE THE REPORTS YOU JUST SHOWED US.
LIKE WE USED TO GET FROM CRYSTAL SIMILAR.
WHEN WILL WE START BEING ABLE TO RECEIVE THOSE AT THE COMMISSION MEETINGS INSTEAD OF YOU PUTTING IT ALL IN A SPREADSHEET, LIKE PULLING IT BACK FROM POWER BI.
SO I THINK AS SOON AS WE'VE GOT THE PUBLIC FACING DASHBOARD AVAILABLE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT TO YOU GUYS.
AND Y'ALL, YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO GO ON THE WEBSITE AND GET AT LEAST THE NUMBERS, RIGHT.
YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DEEP DIVE THEM, BUT YOU'LL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT PUBLIC SITE JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO YOU CAN GET THEM ON, ON DEMAND, PULL THEM BY THE DAY, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT MOST OF THAT WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.
HI, GOOD AFTERNOON OR EVENING.
AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR THIS BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE AND A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR.
SO MY QUESTION IS AROUND A MONTH, THE PUBLIC VERSION OF THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE ASL WEBSITE.
FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE ON THE COMMISSION, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT ON THE SHAREPOINT? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION A HUNDRED PERCENT.
PHILLIP MIGHT BE ABLE TO, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU ALL WILL HAVE ACCESS TO OUR INTERNAL TOOLS.
SO IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO BE PROVIDED TO YOU OR COME TO THE, UH, ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICE.
AND WE CAN SIT WITH YOU AND DRIVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.
UH, GETTING GOOD DATA IS ESSENTIAL FOR US TO DO OUR JOB, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HELPING MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO TOO.
[2e. Fire Code Requirements for Nonprofit and Commercial Animal Shelters and Boarding Facilities in Austin]
A BRIEFING FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR NON-PROFIT AND COMMERCIAL ANIMAL SHELTERS AND BOARDING FACILITIES IN AUSTIN.THIS IS BEN FLICK WITH THE AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR MARSHALL'S OFFICE, ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS OVER THERE.
SO I WAS ASKED TO KIND OF JUST SIT IN AND GIVE A RUNDOWN OF WHAT THE CURRENT CODES KIND OF LAYOUT.
UM, SO TO START OUT FROM A CODE STANDPOINT, A ANIMAL SHELTER OR A BOARDING FACILITY WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS THAT THEY BE OCCUPANCY BUSINESS.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT, UM, OR SPRINKLER REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S REALLY NO SPECIFIC SPRINKLER REQUIREMENTS FOR B OCCUPANCY.
UH, WHEN WE GET TO OVER 500 BUILDING OCCUPANTS, UM, KIND OF GEARED MORE TOWARDS PEOPLE, UH, THAT THERE'S MORE THAN 500 IN THE BUILDING, THEN A FIRE ALARM SYSTEM WOULD BE REQUIRED.
SO THAT'S KIND OF, WHAT'S CURRENTLY ADOPTED BY THE WARD BASIS.
UH, WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALARM SYSTEMS IN A, SAY AN ANIMAL SHELTER? SO YOU HAVE AN ANIMAL SHELTER, LIKE, I MEAN, AND, UM, I WANTED THIS ON HERE BECAUSE I GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN GEORGETOWN.
SO THERE WAS A SHELTER WITH WHAT, 75 ANIMALS IN IT.
AND, AND, UM, THERE WAS NOBODY PRESENT AT THE TIME.
SO WHAT KIND OF ALARM SYSTEM WOULD BE NECESSARY ON A SHELTER FOR THAT? SO
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FROM WHAT THE ADOPTED CODES IN THE CITY OF BOSTON WOULD LAY OUT THERE, THERE'S NO REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IT GOES OFF OF OCCUPANTS.NOW, I, I AM FAMILIAR WITH, UH, SOME DIFFERENT STANDARDS THAT THE NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION HAS ISSUED, WHICH IS, UH, A STANDARDS COMMITTEE, UM, NATIONALLY THAT DEALS WITH FIRE AND LIFE SAFETY.
THEY DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE HAVEN'T ADOPTED THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE BASICALLY IF THERE WERE NO NEW OCCUPANTS, 24 7.
SO YOU HAD, UH, A WORKER 24 7 THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO VISUALLY OBSERVE THE FIRE AND INCIDENT, AND THEY COULD NOTIFY NINE 11 OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINES.
THEN A SMOKE DETECTOR DETECTION SYSTEM WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED IF THERE WAS NO BUILDING OCCUPANTS ALL THE TIME, THEN SOMETHING WOULD BE REQUIRED.
UH, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S AN OLD STANDARD.
THAT'S NOT BEEN ADOPTED BY THE CITY OF BOSTON.
SO IF THERE WAS A FIRE IN A SHELTER IN AUSTIN, UH, THERE IS NOT EVEN A SMOKE DETECTOR REQUIREMENT IN THAT AS LONG AS THERE'S PEOPLE IN THERE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS OUT OF OUR LEAGUE AND IN YOURS, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR RECOMMENDATIONS ON, ON WHETHER THAT, WHETHER WE SHOULD RECOMMEND ANY CHANGES WITH RESPECT TO AUSTIN? SO IT, IN, IN MY OPINION, UM, IT'S A PERSONAL OPINION.
I THINK ANIMAL SHELTERS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS.
THAT'S KIND OF NOT REALLY IDENTIFIED AS WELL AS IT COULD BE IN THE CODE, AS WELL AS THE OTHER TYPE OF OCCUPANCIES.
UM, RECOMMENDATION GOING FORWARD IS THERE IS A STANDARD AND FPA.
ONE 50 IS FOR THE PROTECTION OF ANIMAL CARE AND BRING FACILITIES.
AND IT OUTLINES ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR SPRINKLERS EGRESS AND FIRE DETECTION, UH, THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.
NOW THAT DOES COVER EMERGENCY VETERINARY CLINICS, BOARDING FACILITIES.
THERE'S A SEPARATE SECTION FOR EQUINE AND THEN ANIMAL SHELTERS.
SO THAT WOULD BE ONE THING FOR YOU ALL TO EVALUATE.
SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO RE RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU RESTATE WHERE WE CAN FIND THAT? UH, YES, I, AND I CAN SEND THE, AN EMAIL WITH THE LINK, BUT IT'S THE NFPA.ORG IS THE WEBSITE AND THERE'S A FREE CODE AND STANDARD LOOKUP, AND IT'S A STANDARD 150.
WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS INFORMATION.
UH, IF SOMEONE LIKE YOU, WEREN'T HERE WITH THIS INFORMATION TO GIVE IT TO US, WE'D HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING IT OURSELVES.
SO YOU'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP.
[2f. Austin Pets Alive! Quarterly Report ]
AUSTIN PETS ALIVE, QUARTERLY REPORT.THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM.
SO, UM, THIS IS, UH, MEANT AS A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE LAST QUARTERS, UM, UH, INFORMATION, HOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING AS PARTNERS WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN TO, UH, TRANSFER ANIMALS FROM AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER TO AUSTIN PETS ALIVE.
AND, UM, AT THE TIME WE CREATED THIS REPORT, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SEPTEMBER INFORMATION FROM AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER.
SO IN THIS REPORT, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT JULY AND AUGUST IN JULY AND AUGUST OF ALL THE ANIMALS THAT WERE TRANSFERRED FROM AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER PARTNERS, APA TOOK 80% AND OVER 25 TIMES THE NUMBER TAKEN BY THE OTHER BRICK AND MORTAR SHELTER IN AUSTIN, UH, APA IS COST OF CARE FOR THE ANIMALS THAT WERE PULLED THIS PAST QUARTER WAS APPROXIMATELY 500, 500,000 TO 750,000.
AND, UM, AND THAT INCLUDES SEPTEMBER.
UM, WE RECEIVED NO FUNDING FROM THE CITY, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE DISCUSSED THAT LAST TIME.
AND, UM, IN THE LAST QUARTER, 569 OUT OF 608
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ANIMALS WERE CONSIDERED AT RISK OR AT HIGH RISK OF EUTHANASIA.UH, ONLY FIVE SMALL DOGS, 24 LARGE MEDIUM DOGS, AND 10 CATS WERE PULLED BY APA FOR SPACE OR AS NON AT RISK, UH, ANIMALS.
SO, UM, SORRY, I CAN'T SEE IT.
THE BOTTOM OF THAT HAS THE TRANSFERS, UM, TO THE DIFFERENT PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING APA, HOPEFULLY THAT'S, SELF-EXPLANATORY THE, THIS CHART WITH INTAKES IS THE BREAKDOWN OF ANIMALS THAT WE PULLED FROM AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE HIGHEST NUMBER IS BOTTLE BABY KITTENS AND INCLUDES BORN AND CARE.
THE, UM, UM, SO 600 THAT MAKES UP THE 608.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, UH, UM, UH, OVER A HUNDRED ANIMALS THAT WERE TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE PUBLIC EITHER FOR PARVO OR FOR SOME OTHER ISSUE THAT WOULD HAVE, UM, MADE, MADE THEM PROBABLY COME TO US IF THEY WENT TO AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER.
SO THE NEXT PAGE IS THE, UM, IS THE CHARTS.
AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT, JUST LOOKING AT THE INTAKES OF CATS AND DOGS.
AND, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CATS ARE BOTTLED, BABY CATS, UM, BOTTLE BABY KITTENS, 68%.
WE ALSO TAKE A LOT OF PREGNANT MOMS. 8% OF THEM ARE OUR PREGNANT MOMS. 19% ARE CATS WITH SEVERE MEDICAL CONDITIONS.
1.5% ARE CATS WITH BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS. AND ONLY 2.5 CAME TO US FOR SPACE FOR DOGS.
THE, UM, THE MAJORITY OF DOGS THAT COME TO US ARE MEDICAL DOGS.
28% ARE COMING TO US FOR MEDICAL.
UM, 21% OF THOSE 21% THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE 28% FOR MEDICAL, OUR PARVO PUPPIES AND PARVO DOGS.
AND, UM, LET'S SEE, UH, 5% FOR BEHAVIOR, LARGE DOGS, 1% FOR SMALL DOGS WITH BEHAVIOR, 2% FOR BOTTLE BABIES AND 10% FOR, UM, PREGNANT OR NURSING MOTHERS AND THEN 16% BORN IN CARE.
AND, UM, AND THEN SOME SPACE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
SO THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE, THE, THESE ARE THE CHARTS OF THE PERCENT OF AAC INTAKE THAT IS COMING TO APA.
AND, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT WHEN IN THIS FIRST CHART, WE'RE COMPARING QUARTER THREE OF 2020 TO QUARTER THREE OF 2021 QUARTER THREE OF 2020 IS HIGHER.
THAT IS, UM, DUE TO THE TOTAL INTAKES BEING MUCH LOWER IN 2020 AT AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, THEN IN 2021.
AND, UM, BUT WE'RE STILL, UM, AROUND 18% FOR QUARTER THREE.
AND, UM, AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT CHART, IT'S JUST MAPPING OUT THE LAST FOUR QUARTERS OF THE POLLS, THE PERCENT OF PULSE THAT CAME TO AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, AND A LOT OF THOSE ARE CATS.
AND THEN ON THE NEXT PAGE IS THE OUTCOMES OF ANIMALS THAT CAME TO US FROM AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER, ALL QUARTER THREE EUTHANASIA'S WERE FOR MEDICAL REASONS.
UM, THE ANIMALS THAT ARE DIED IN CARE ARE ANIMALS THAT ARE RECEIVING TREATMENT FOR WHATEVER THEIR CONDITION IS THAT MIGHT BE BOTTLED BABY KITTENS OR PARVO PUPPIES, AND THEY FAILED TO MAKE IT DURING THAT TREATMENT.
UM, AND LET'S SEE, UH, WE PULLED 14 BEHAVIOR DOGS IN QUARTER THREE, AND OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE ARE STILL ALIVE BEING TREATED.
UM, ONLY ONE HAS BEEN ADOPTED.
ONE IS AVAILABLE IN FOSTER TINDER IN THE SHELTER, AND ONE IS CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE OF THE LIVE RELEASE CALCULATIONS.
UH, ON THIS NEXT PAGE IS THE, UH, JUST SHOWS THAT AUSTIN'S AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTERS LIVE RELEASE RATE IS 97% FOR THE QUARTER.
THE, WHAT IT WOULD BE WITHOUT APA IS 80.5%.
AND THE AAC PLUS APA COMMUNITY LIVE RELEASE RATE BETWEEN THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS IS 95%.
AND THEN THIS LAST PAGE IS JUST THE INTAKES AND OUTCOMES OF THE ANIMALS, UM, FOR, UH, FOR ALL ANIMALS AT AUSTIN PETS ALIVE.
AND THE LIVE RELEASE RATE OF 91% IS BECAUSE WE ARE TAKING THOSE THAT ARE, UM, HAVE HIGH MORTALITY RATES.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO HEAR QUESTIONS OR YES, ABSOLUTELY.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ELLEN? YEP.
I HAVE A QUESTION AND, UM, KIND OF THE SAME QUESTION THAT I ASKED JASON AND THEM EARLIER ABOUT THE NUMBERS, UM, ON YOUR REPORT, YOU SHOWED 570 TOTAL ANIMALS TRANSFERRED OUT OF AAC, 2 98 CATS, 1 59 DOGS, 43 ANIMALS TO SMALL PARTNERS.
SO WHERE THE OTHER 70, I DON'T KNOW, THOSE NUMBERS CAME FROM THE, UM, THE, THE REPORTS FROM AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER THAT ARE IN BACKUP.
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I MEAN, IT'S POSSIBLE, WE MADE A MATH ERROR WHEN WE PULLED THEM TOGETHER, BUT OKAY.SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE PULLING THESE FROM THE, THAT A C IS POSTED.
I HAVE A QUESTION AND OUTCOMES, UM, FOR ADOPTION.
ARE THOSE ANIMALS THAT ADOPTED FROM FATE T LACK THROUGH FOSTER OR TARRYTOWN? UM, ALL, YES.
THOSE ARE THE THREE WAYS ANIMALS ARE ADOPTED.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YEAH.
AND SO TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER AGENCY OR THE ANIMALS YOU TRANSFER OUT OF? UM, APA.
I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED WHEN I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS, BECAUSE IN THE FIRST QUARTER YOU TALKED ABOUT THE THOUSAND 3005 ANIMALS THAT WERE TRANSFERRED AFTER THE STORM.
BUT WHEN I ADD UP THE TRANSFERRED OR THE THREE QUARTERS, IT COMES OUT TO 6, 18, 6, 18.
SO I ENDED UP ALL THREE QUARTERS.
UM, THERE WERE THE TRANSFERRED IN QUARTER, ONE WAS 365, BUT THEN YOU SAID THAT YOU ADOPT, YOU TRANSFERRED A THOUSAND OR SO.
UM, QUARTER TWO WAS 1 25 AND QUARTER THREE.
I, SO ARE ANY OF THOSE FIT IN ADOPTIONS OR IS IT JUST MAYBE A MATH ERROR? NO, THE THOUSAND, UM, THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY BECOME INTAKED BY AUSTIN PETS ALIVE.
SO SOME OF THOSE ANIMALS, WE WERE FACILITATING THE TRANSFER DIRECTLY FROM THE ORIGINAL SHELTER TO THE NEW SHELTER.
SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE USING OUR TRANSPORT RESOURCES, BUT WE DIDN'T TAKE THOSE ANIMALS IN FIRST.
SO YOU WERE JUST, YOU'RE JUST THE LIAISON SOMETIMES.
WELL, WE WORK WITH WHERE WE'VE, UM, SET UP A TIERED SYSTEM.
SO THE SHELTERS THAT HAVE MORE RESOURCES, WE ARE JUST HELPING THEM FACILITATE TRANS TRANSPORT, THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE ANY RESOURCES AND ARE GOING TO KILL ANIMALS IMMEDIATELY.
WE'LL PULL THEM TO SAFETY AND GIVE THEM A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE THEY'RE TRANSPORTED OUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ELLEN? OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL DO.
IT'S ANY KIND OF CRITERIA BECAUSE JOEL ARE BULLYING DOGS WITH BEHAVIOR ISSUES.
IT'S ANY CRITERIA FOR EUTHANASIA INSIDE APA FOR THESE KINDS OF, OF CASES, WHICH ONE IS, OR, OR HOW WE IT'S A, AN SOP AFTER TRYING, I KNOW PLAYGROUPS AND DIFFERENT KINDS OF BEHAVIORS WHEN Y'ALL DECIDE TO TAKE THESE DECISIONS, OR HOW IS WE DO WE DO EUTHANIZE FOR BEHAVIOR? UM, IF A DOG HAS, UH, DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY CAN'T BE SAFE IN A HOME, THEN, UM, WE, WE, UH, WE DO CHOOSE TO EUTHANIZE.
WE TRIED TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR BLACK AND WHITE.
YOU KNOW, YOU DO THIS, THIS HAPPENS AND IT'S REALLY INDIVIDUALIZED FOR EACH CASE.
JUST DO, Y'ALL HAVE SOME KIND OF MANUAL OR SOP LIKE TO FOLLOW.
WE HAVE 30 DAYS WITH THESE DOGS.
WE DON'T SEE ANY KIND OF CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR.
WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THESE DECISION OR IT'S ANY KIND OF BEHAVIOR IS SQUEEZING IN THE MIDDLE.
IT'S MORE BASED ON THE BEHAVIOR RATHER THAN LENGTH OF TIME.
AND SO THE BEHAVIORS AND I DON'T, I DON'T, I'M NOT THE BEHAVIOR EXPERT, SO DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO GET INTO TOO MANY SPECIFICS.
BUT I THINK FOR, FOR ME PERSONALLY, AS THE CEO, IT IS AROUND IF A DOG CAN NOT BE TRUSTED BY THEIR OWN OWNER TO NOT BITE THEM OR TO RUN OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE AND ATTACK SOMEBODY RUNNING, WALKING DOWN THE STREET.
SO THOSE ARE TYPICALLY THE TWO THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO TRIGGER THE EUTHANASIA.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ELLEN? OKAY.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE AND GIVING US THIS REPORT.
SO NOW OLD BUSINESS, UH, COMPARATIVE
[3a. Comparative Evaluations of Monthly Release Rates.]
EVALUATIONS OF MONTHLY RELEASE RATES.DO WE HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ON THAT? NO, BUT I AM THRILLED THAT IT IS RECORDING THAT HOPEFULLY THIS CAN COME OFF THE AGENDA SOMETIME SOON WHEN WE GET OUR DATA BACK TO WHERE WE WOULD ALL LIKE IS, UM, SO I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT SOON WE WILL HAVE THAT DATA THAT WE'VE BEEN ACCUSTOMED TO.
UM, QUICK QUESTION, AND MAYBE IT HAS ALREADY ANSWERED THIS, OR MAYBE STAFF CAN REFLECT, UM, JASON, YOUR REPORT THIS MONTH, YOU'VE ADDED SEVERAL MORE CATEGORIES AND MORE DATA, WHICH I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR PERSONALLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I LOVE SEEING MORE AND MORE DATA, QUICK QUESTION ON PAGE TWO, WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE OUTCOME INFORMATION.
UM, YOU'VE GOT IT BROKEN DOWN INTO WHAT I THINK IS THE CHAMELEON SUBTYPE FOR OUTCOME
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ON THE LIKE DYED EUTHANASIA OUTCOMES.UM, YOU'VE GOT LIKE A NEONATE DOG AND IT'S LISTED AS THE REASON IS MEDICAL AND IT DIED.
SO ONE NEW NATE DOG DIED AND THE REASON IS MEDICAL.
UM, I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THAT WILL, WILL AT SOME POINT GET BROKEN DOWN INTO, UM, THE CAUSE OF DEATH, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT THE ORDINANCE CALLED FOR WAS THE SUSPECTED CAUSE OF DEATH FOR EACH ANIMAL.
SO, UM, MAYBE I TEACH, YOU CAN CLARIFY THAT, OR MAYBE IT'S JASON, YOU ALREADY KNOW I'LL HAVE TO GET WITH THEM ON THAT ONLY BECAUSE THE DATA THAT THEY'RE PULLING FROM THAT GOING TO POVERTY EYES AND THEY FIELD, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE ACTUAL CAUSE OF DEATH IS CAPTURED IN THEIR FIELD AS OPPOSED THAT IT'S CAPTURED LIKE A MEMO, BUT THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND IT'S, IT'S BEYOND MY PAY GRADE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT WORKS ON A, ON A CHAMELEON REPORT LEVEL.
SO YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT I THINK WHAT THE ORDINANCE CALLED FOR MY UNDERSTANDING ANYWAY, WAS THE SUSPECTED CAUSE OF DEATH.
UM, SO I, I LOVE THAT YOU'VE PUT MORE DATA ON HERE AND I KNOW THAT'S THE CHAMELEON, SUBTYPE WORD, JUSTICE, NEONATE, DOG DIARIES, AND MEDICAL IT'S COUNTABLE, OBVIOUSLY IT WASN'T MEDICAL.
UM, BUT IS IT, CAN WE SOMEHOW GET THAT BROKEN DOWN INTO WHAT I THINK THE ORDINANCE ASKED FOR, WHICH WAS SUSPECTED CAUSE OF DEATH? I CAN TALK TO CHRIS ABOUT WHAT POTENTIALLY COULD, COULD OCCUR.
BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU PUT AS MUCH AS I KNOW YOU COULD GATHER INTO, AND I NOTICED THE EXTRA COLUMNS THIS MONTH AND JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THANKS FOR DOING NO WORRIES.
I WAS TRYING TO PICK A SHIT FIT ON ONE PAGE AND WAS STILL READABLE.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO, UM, CRAIG, IF WE CAN LEAVE THIS ON, UM, BUT HOPEFULLY IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS COULD COME UP SOON.
THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO SEE ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS.
[3b. Monthly Reporting of Data.]
REPORTING OF DATA.I'D LIKE TO LEAVE IT ON, UM, IN THE HOPES THAT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY BE WRAPPING IT UP NEXT MONTH.
UM, AND, BUT I'D LIKE TO LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA UNTIL WE KIND OF FINISH.
RYAN, CAN WE, UM, WHAT WE HAD ASKED FOR LAST MONTH, AND OF COURSE WE CAN'T DIRECT YOU TO DO ANYTHING, SO, UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT WE HAD WONDERED IF YOU COULD TELL US WHAT YOU NEEDED US TO ASK, UH, OF THE CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU DIDN'T THINK THAT YOU COULD MEET THE REQUIREMENT BY NEXT MONTH, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL OR DO YOU THINK WE'RE PRETTY SAFE IN THE TERRITORY OF WE WILL BE MEETING THE ORDINANCE NEXT MONTH? WELL, YOU HAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION FROM THESE GENTLEMEN AND IT IS AS WE DO.
AND IF THEY SAY THEY THINK THEY CAN MEET IT NEXT MONTH, I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN.
UH, THE ONLY THING THAT COULD BE DIRECTED IS IF THE RESOURCES WERE PULLED FROM THE COVID RESPONSE AND GIVEN TO US, FULL-TIME, UH, OKAY.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO DO WITH THAT, THAT GOING TO HAPPEN.
WELL, I MEAN, WE COULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION IF, UM, IF WE FELT, UH, THAT THE, THE STAFF NEEDED IT, WE CERTAINLY COULD, WE COULD MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION.
UM, BUT I GUESS, UM, GO AHEAD.
WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE WAIT ONE MORE MONTH SINCE THE, NOW WE'VE BEEN GIVEN, UH, FOR MY TEA, THAT IS A DEADLINE.
AND THEN IF FOR SOME REASON WE FIND OUT WHAT SOMETHING MORE IS NEEDED, THEN GO TO COUNCIL, SEE WHAT THEY NEED FROM COUNCIL.
THAT, THAT DOES MAKE SENSE TO ME.
UM, UM, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.
UM, BUT I DO, I WOULD BACK UP WHAT MONICA SAID, WHICH IS THAT LET'S GO THROUGH THE ORDINANCE AND MAKE SURE EACH THING IS ON THERE AND NOT JUST WHATEVER, UM, IT IS ABLE TO FOR NEXT MONTH.
LET'S IF THERE'S A WAY TO WALK, I KNOW THERE'S A WAY IF THERE'S TIME TO WALK THROUGH IT AND, AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT NOT AUTOMATICALLY BE PULLED, I THINK IT'D BE REALLY GOOD TO GET THAT.
AND D JASON, I WONDER WITH, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE OUTSIDE VENDORS, MAYBE NEEDING TO FILL IN LIKE A, A TEMPLATE TO DOWNLOAD THE INFORMATION.
SO I'M WONDERING IF LIKE SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT MONICA JUST MENTIONED, THAT'S NOT BEING CAPTURED.
IF THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE PROVIDED BY AAC, VET STAFF IN THE FORM OF THE TEMPLATE THAT THEN WOULD DOWNLOAD TO THAT SYSTEM AS MAYBE A WORKAROUND, IF YOU CAN'T GRAB IT.
I THINK WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON WITH IT, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THEIR, WHATEVER THEY NEED TO ENSURE IS ON THE TEMPLATE IS ON SO THAT THEY CAN PULL IT RATHER THAN WE COME UP WITH IT.
WE GIVE IT TO THEM AND THE NIGHTS WAS LIKE, WE CAN'T USE THIS, SO I NEED TO HAVE MAKE SURE, AND WE'RE GOING TO SET UP, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TALK ALL THE TIME WITH CHRIS.
SO I MEAN, YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, UM,
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I THINK WE CAN DEVELOP SOMETHING WHERE EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED TO PULL THAT IS EASY ENOUGH FOR ONE OF OUR, OUR VENDORS TO, TO FILL OUT AND THEN SEND IT TO US A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THEY DID MAKE RECORDS.THEY DID GIVE US SPECIFIC SOME HOMEWORK ON THINGS THAT THEY NEEDED.
AND WE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING THEM ANSWERS ON ALL OF THAT SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DRILL DOWN THROUGH THIS.
AND WE'VE GIVEN THEM ALL OUR INFORMATION.
AND SO ALL THAT'S IN THEIR HANDS IN TERMS OF CAN THEY USE THAT, HOW THEY CAN USE IT.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE TRYING TO SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS. YEAH.
ALONG THAT LINE, I JUST WANT TO BACK UP WITH PALMER JUST SAID, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN DONE FROM LAST MONTH TO THIS MONTH AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL AND WE, UH, WHEN WE WROTE THAT ORDINANCE OR WHEN WE PASSED THAT ORDINANCE WAS TO BECOME, YOU KNOW, A STANDARD FOR TRANSPARENCY SO THAT WHEN OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE WONDERING, HEY, WHAT IS IT THAT WE SHOULD BE ASKING FOR? WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION SHOULD WE BE ASKING FOR? AND OF COURSE THAT STANDARD MAY CHANGE OVER TIME.
AND WE MAY, NEXT YEAR, WE MIGHT MIGHT ASK FOR DIFFERENT THINGS WE DO THIS YEAR, BUT THE GOAL WAS TO HAVE A STANDARD OUT THERE THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES COULD LOOK TO TO MEASURE, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR DATA AND MEASURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT HAVING THAT BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, THAT ANYBODY COULD GO TO THE WEBSITE AND I ASSUME PRINT OUT LIKE A PDF OF THE FULL REPORT, UM, WOULD REALLY, I THINK, HELP OTHER COMMUNITIES, UM, LEARN FROM US, WHICH, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT MEETS BOTH GOALS, US BEING TRANSPARENT, BUT ALSO BEING A STANDARD THERE FOR TRANSPARENCY.
SO THANK YOU FOR GUYS FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
UM, ESPECIALLY OVER OBVIOUSLY OVER THE LAST MONTH TO GET THIS TOGETHER.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THE MONTHLY REPORTING OF DATA? YEAH.
I JUST WANT TO TAG ON IT IF I COULD, TO WHAT RYAN SAID, AND I THINK WHAT PALMER AND MONICA ALSO SAID, THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING THIS.
AND, UH, I WON'T GO THROUGH ANYTHING SPECIFIC OTHER THAN TO SAY, IN ADDITION TO THE TRANSPARENCY, THE TRANSPARENCY, I THINK, IS GOING TO LEAD TO BETTER COLLABORATION WITH THE PUBLIC AND, YOU KNOW, KEEP US MOVING FORWARD IN NO-KILL IN A COMMUNITY WAY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I FEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN MAYBE LOSING SIGHT OF.
AND I KNOW COVID HAS BEEN PART OF THAT, BUT I THINK THIS MIGHT PUT US BACK ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING THAT.
WELL, UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO WORKING
[3c. Working Group on Off-Leash Dogs. ]
GROUP ON OFF-LEASH DOGS AND THAT'D BE JOANNE.UM, CRAIG AND I, UM, CONTINUE TO MEET, UM, EVERY OTHER WEEK OR THEREABOUTS WITH, UM, BUT PARKS, BOARD, UM, SOME STAFF FROM AAC AND, UH, UH, THE GROUP IS KIND OF SPEARHEADED BY, UM, DIRECTOR MCNEELY.
UM, EDUCATION IS A BIG PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, UM, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE OFF-LEASH, UM, DOG EXPECTATIONS ARE IN PARKS, BUT ALSO IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO, UM, THE PARKS PARTNERS, UM, HAVE SECURED, UM, TWO MUSICIANS WHO, UM, ARE GOING TO CREATE, UM, VIDEOS AND JINGLES.
UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HIM IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH, AND THERE ARE TWO OTHER MUSICIANS OR GROUPS WHO ARE, UM, BEING WORKED ON.
SO WE MAY HAVE FOUR, UM, TRYING TO GET ALL THE AGES, UM, IN THERE.
SO, UM, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND SOME OF THE MUSICIANS HAVE REALLY GOOD, UM, UH, MEDIA PRESENCE.
SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, PUSHED FROM THAT.
UM, OUR BROCHURES ARE FINALIZED.
UM, I WILL GET THEM ALL TO YOU, EMAIL THEM TO YOU.
UM, IF YOU SEE ON NEXT DOOR OR SOMEONE TALKS TO YOU AND SAYS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE OFF-LEASH DOG PARKS ARE, YOU COULD POST THE OP THE OFF-LEASH DOG BROCHURE, AND IT'LL EXPLAIN WHERE ALL THE PARKS ARE, WHICH ONES HAVE, UM, UH, FENCED AREAS OR NOT.
UM, THERE'S ONE, I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE BLOND CREEK PRESERVE.
SO THERE'S A LOT THAT COMES UP ABOUT COYOTES.
SO, UM, WE CREATED ONE ON, UH, UH, WORKING WITH WILDLIFE.
UM, THE WILDLIFE, UM, GROUP ALSO WORKED WITH US ON THAT, BOTH FROM AEC AND PARKS.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
AND WE HAVE ON END, JUST KIND OF DOG ETIQUETTE IN A DOG PARK.
SO THE GOAL IS, UM, TO HAVE THEM ON, THERE'LL BE ON THE PARK SITE, THERE'LL BE AN AEC WEBSITE AND ALSO BE AVAILABLE IF YOU EVER WANT TO USE THEM.
SO THAT THE INFORMATION THAT GETS OUT TO CITIZENS IS CONSISTENT.
UM, A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN ON SOCIAL MEDIA HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED, AND WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THOSE IN A LITTLE SECTION THAT EXPLAINS, UM, UH, ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
UM, WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER AN OFF-LEASH DOG PARK, UM, FOCUS GROUP, UM, SO WE CAN SEE
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HOW CITIZENS CAN REQUEST NEW OFF-LEASH AREAS.UH, SO, UM, THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP.
UM, WE HAVE SOME, UH, PASS OUTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN TARGETED AREAS THAT WILL MOSTLY BE DONE WITH THE PARKS POLICE.
UM, CRAIG AND I MIGHT ALSO ATTEND AND THE OTHER PARKS BOARD MEMBERS TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE RULES.
UM, A BIG ISSUE THAT COMES UP IN THE, UM, MESSAGES THAT COME TO ME, UM, OR COMMENTS ARE ABOUT CITATIONS.
AND PEOPLE THINK IF YOU JUST START WRITING $500 CITATIONS, EVERYONE WILL KEEP THEIR DOG ON A LEASH.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY FOR ALL OF YOU, SO IF YOU GET QUESTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ANSWERS, UM, CITATIONS CANNOT BE WRITTEN BY PARK RANGERS.
THEY CAN ONLY WRITE PARKING VIOLATIONS.
THE PARKS POLICE UNIT USED TO WRITE THEM, BUT THAT UNIT WAS PULLED IN JANUARY 1ST, 2021, AND IS NOW PART OF APD.
SO THERE ARE NO PARKS POLICE, ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS AND, UM, AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT ANIMAL PROTECTION CAN WRITE TICKETS, BUT THEY ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY $500.
IF SOMEONE GOES IN TO PAY THE CITATION, IT'S A MUNICIPAL COURT AND THE MUNICIPAL COURT ACTIVE CHARGES LIST, NUMBER 6, 1 4 1, 1, 1 ANIMALS AT LARGE, UM, PUTS THE COST AT $217 STILL SUBSTANTIAL, BUT NOT 500.
IF THEY GO TO COURT, THE COURT HAS THE OPTION OF ASSIGNING ON THE FEE, WHICH COULD BE THE MAXIMUM OF 500, BUT ALSO TO ISSUE A WARNING, TAKE A MANDATORY CLASS, OR THEY COULD EVEN DISMISS THE TICKET.
UM, ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS ARE SPREAD PRETTY THIN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
THERE'S 21 APS FOR 900 SQUARE MILES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WORK LONG HOURS, MANY DAYS A WEEK, SO IT'S NOT REALISTIC IF YOU ARE UP IN NORTHWEST TRAVIS COUNTY AND YOU GET A CALL ABOUT ENFIELD, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE IT DOWN THERE BEFORE THE PEOPLE WOULD BE, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CALL 3, 1, 1, UM, WITH ISSUES OF, UM, AWFULLY STALKS, ESPECIALLY USING PARKS, UM, FOR ALL POLICE DOGS, BECAUSE, UM, THAT, AND BE SPECIFIC ON THE LOCATION BECAUSE THAT INFORMATION IS USED IN THE DATABASES TO TELL US WHERE WE NEED TO GO, UM, TO TRY TO EDUCATE PEOPLE, UM, WHEN THEY ARE IN THE PARKS AND WE ARE GOING TO START PLANNING SOME COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN AREAS WITH HIGH NUMBERS OF COMPLAINTS.
UM, SO THAT COULD BE ATTENDING MEETINGS.
IT COULD BE JUST BEING OUT NEAR PEACE PARK, WHERE I'M STILL CREEK DOG OFF, ODDLY STOCK, AWFULLY STOCK ENDS, AND THEN IT STARTS ON LEASH AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
SO, UM, A LOT OF STUFF HAPPENING, A LOT OF MOVING PIECES.
UM, I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING US JOIN WITH, UH, THE PARKS BOARD.
I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD AND GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS, AND I THINK IT'LL ULTIMATELY BE A GOOD EDUCATION FOR EVERYONE.
I HAVE TO SAY IT'S BEEN A VERY PRODUCTIVE COMMITTEE TO BEYOND, UH, UH, DIRECTOR BLAND AND DIRECTOR MCNEELY HAVE HELPED A LOT IN MOVING THIS FORWARD AND IT IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS.
SO I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR HELPING US GET THAT GOING.
AUSTIN PETS ALIVE, FUTURE THE TOWN LAKE.
HOW DO I GET THE WRONG ONE? YEAH, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S IT THREE D THREE D WORKING GROUP ON HOW TO INCREASE
[3d. Working Group on How to Increase Microchipping in the City of Austin.]
MICROCHIPPING IN THE CITY OF BOSTON.UH, WE, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, WE HAVE NOT HAD A COMMITTEE MEETING, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF REASONS WHY THERE IS A MCCOMBS BUSINESS SCHOOL, UH, GROUP FROM UT THAT IS LOOKING AT SEVERAL PROJECTS AND THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT MICROCHIPPING ALSO.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO WAIT FOR THEIR REPORT AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A MEETING TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR RESULTS, WHAT THEY SEE IN THE COMMUNITY VERSUS WHAT WE'VE SEEN.
AND WITH THAT, UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MICROCHIP RABIES CLINIC, THIS COMING SATURDAY.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK COMMISSIONER LUIS HERRERA TO, UH, SPEAK ABOUT THAT.
HELLO, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. BLATT.
UH, I AM THE NEW PERSON IN CHARGE OF MICROCHIPPING OF THESE CLINICS.
WE ARE GOING TO HOLD ONE MICROCHIP CLINIC AND RAISES DESTINATION 1%, 1, 1, 1 EVERY MONTH, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ON SATURDAYS AND THE PLANETS GO ONE TIME TO THE FIELD PER MONTH AND DO A MICROCHIP CLINIC IN AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE MORE STRESS AND MORE CALLS ABOUT, UH, DOGS, ROUTINE DOGS RUNNING LOOSE, UH, THE PLAN OF THE SEEDS IN, BY THE COMMUNITY TO PLAY WITH US.
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INVITE EVERYBODY.IF YOU ALL CAN SHARE, UH, THIS PROGRAM IS COMPLETELY FREE.
IT'S FREE IT TAX FREE, MICROCHIP AND FREE RAISED DESTINATION.
THE SATURDAY IN YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA CAN BE FANTASTIC.
LET'S GO SEE, BUT WE NEED THE HELP OF ALL THE COMMUNITY TO PLAY TOGETHER, TO HAVE MORE PETS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
[3e. Shelter Space Issues Working Group.]
SPACE ISSUES WORKING GROUP.NOW, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I HEARD TONIGHT THAT ONCE WORKING GROUPS MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DISSOLVE.
OUR RECOMMENDATION DID SAY ON THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THERE WAS MORE TO BE DISCUSSED, BUT I'M HAPPY IF WE WANT TO RE TO DISSOLVE IT.
AND I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT NOW UNDER THIS ITEM, GO AHEAD.
SO WE HAD MADE OUR INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON TRYING TO AFFECT THE LARGEST POPULATION THAT WE COULD, UH, INITIALLY, AND THEN TO DRILL DOWN INTO THE MORE COMPLEX AREAS THAT WERE HAVING PROBLEMS. UM, MOST RECENTLY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO WORK ON, WHERE THE LARGE DOGS AND THE BEHAVIOR DOGS THAT WERE GETTING STUCK AFTER THE EMAIL THAT WE RECEIVED SAYING, WE COULDN'T ASK FOR DATA THAT DIDN'T EXIST.
AND THIS DATA THAT WE HAD BEEN REQUESTING DOESN'T EXIST, WE WERE HAVING TO PIECEMEAL STUFF TOGETHER.
WE HAD STOPPED HAVING MEETINGS WHILE WE WERE WAITING FOR, UM, FURTHER GUIDANCE ON WHAT WE COULD AND COULDN'T ASK FOR, UM, REGARDING THIS WORKING GROUP, TRYING TO DIG INTO, INTO THE MECHANICS OF THE LARGE DOG, BUT IT DAWNS ON ME.
UM, THAT STAFF, I THINK, IS WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER WORKING GROUPS AS BEING A PART OF THE WORKING GROUP.
AND I'M WONDERING, DOES STAFF FEEL THAT WE NEED A SPACE WORKING GROUP ANYMORE? BECAUSE IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS AND, UM, THEY'RE NOT, I GUESS MAYBE EVERYTHING'S WORKING FINE THAT THEY'RE NOT NEEDED.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE KIND OF HOW TO PROCEED FROM HERE OR WHETHER WE DISSOLVE THE GROUP.
AND IF, UM, THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT US TO PICK UP AGAIN, ANOTHER TIME THAT WE PICK IT BACK UP, YOU MADE YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND WE MADE OUR RESPONSES AND, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, OUR RESPONSES AND WHAT THOSE WERE, AND WE'VE BEEN MAKING TREMENDOUS PROGRESS.
SO I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE APPRECIATED, UH, OUR RESPONSES DIDN'T CHANGE.
AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO KEEP GOING FORWARD AT THIS TIME, SINCE WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS, THEN I MOVED TO, UM, DISSOLVE THE WORKING GROUP BECAUSE THEY'VE, YOU KNOW, IF, IF ANOTHER ISSUE COMES UP THAT THEY NEED OR WOULD LIKE SOME TROUBLESHOOTING, THEN WE CAN WORK ON IT AGAIN.
AND THAT'S, WHAT CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? I ASSUME THAT'S A YES.
UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT, CAN WE CONFIRM THEM THAT THE SPACE CRISIS THAT YOU CITED, UM, OVER LONG AND GO, IT WAS PEOPLE IN THAT THAT IS OVER THERE IS NO LONGER A SPACE CONCERN BEING A PUBLIC OPEN INTAKE SHELTER.
THERE'S ALWAYS A SPACE CONCERN, BUT WE ARE NOT IN THE CRITICAL POSITION THAT WE ARE, UH, SLAPPED IN THE FACE WITH A FEW MONTHS AGO.
SO WE'RE BACK IN A GOOD POSITION.
WE'RE NO LONGER I'M AT RISK OF EUTHANIZING FOR ANY OF THE REASONS THAT WERE CITED IN THAT MEMO.
CAN I ASK TOO? UM, I WAS JUST WONDERING, HOW DO YOU MEASURE WHETHER YOU'RE IN A SPACE CRISIS AND SO HOW WOULD WE, HOW WOULD, HOW WOULD THE PUBLIC KNOW LIKE YES, YOU WERE IN ONE, THREE OR SIX MONTHS AGO PROBABLY, BUT THAT YOU'RE NOT IN ONE NOW.
LIKE HOW DO WE, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE OBJECTIVE MEASUREMENT TO KNOW WHETHER THERE IS A SPACE CRISIS OR NOT.
AND I, THIS HAD BEEN ASKED IN A PREVIOUS MEETING, I'LL GIVE THE SAME ANSWER WHEN WE HAD NO KENNELS TO PUT ANIMALS IN AND WE WERE HAVING TO PUT THEM IN ROLLING CRATES IN THE HALLWAY OVERNIGHT, UH, TILL ANIMALS COULD LEAVE THE NEXT DAY, UH, WHEN THERE WAS NO EMPTY CAGES THAT WAS CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A SPACE CRISIS.
WE HAD NO PLACE FOR THEM, NO KENNELS FOR THEM PUBLIC OR NON-PUBLIC.
SO I GUESS THAT MEANS THAT ESSENTIALLY
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A HUNDRED PERCENT YOU'RE OVER A HUNDRED PERCENT, YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE ANIMAL PER KENNEL AT THE SITE.SO WHAT IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S RIGHT AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WHERE ARE WE NOW? ARE WE AT 80%? ARE WE AT 90% OR 85 AREA? 65? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? I THINK THAT THIS MORNING WE WERE WORKING ONE MINUS ONE, SIX MINUS SIX, POSITIVE SIX THIS MORNING.
SO THAT MEANS WE HAD SIX KENNELS OPEN THIS MORNING TO START THE DAY WITH, BEFORE ANYTHING LEFT THAT WAS BEING PICKED UP TODAY OR WAS LEAVING, YOU KNOW, FOR TRANSFER OR ANYTHING.
AND THAT IS A REPORT THAT GOES OUT DAILY.
COULD WE, I MEAN, I GUESS I CAN ASK, YOU CAN SAY NO THAT IF YOU GET INTO A, A PROBLEM AGAIN, WHERE YOU'RE CONCERNED OR BOTTLENECK AND NEED TROUBLESHOOTING, THAT WE WOULD BE, UH, HOPEFULLY BROUGHT INTO, MAYBE COLLABORATE WITH STAFF AND TRY TO HELP FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN OFFER AS A COMMISSION, UH, IN SUPPORT OF ANY PROBLEMS THAT MIGHT ARISE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, THAT'S GREAT IF Y'ALL HAVE IT ALL UNDER CONTROL NOW, BUT I'M WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
SHOULD THAT CHANGE? ABSOLUTELY.
YOU KNOW, HAVING A COMMUNITY INPUT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A NO-KILL IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT AND A PARTNERSHIP AND IT TAKES ALL RESOURCES.
AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, FIRST THING WE DO IS ASK FOR THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, HELP US, YOU KNOW, THROUGH ADOPTION FOSTER RESCUE.
AND SO, UH, ABSOLUTELY WE WILL LET YOU KNOW IF WE GET INTO THAT SITUATION AGAIN, UM, DON BECK DAILY REPORT THAT ONLY SHOWS PUBLIC KENNELS, CORRECT.
OR HAS THAT BEEN UPDATED TO SHOW ALL KENNELS THAT ARE THERE ALL AREAS? I THINK IT JUST STILL SHOWS PUBLIC KENNELS.
SO IT DOESN'T GIVE US QUITE THE ENTIRE PICTURE OF, UM, WHETHER, HOW, WHETHER YOU'RE IN A REAL CRUNCH THERE OR NOT.
NO, YOU WOULD NOT SEE THE, IT WOULD NOT SHOW YOU THE ONE SETTING IN THE HALLWAY IN A, IN A ROLLING CAGE.
BUT IF MY, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS IF THE, IF THE PUBLIC REPORT EVERY DAY THAT COMES OUT, SAYS THAT YOU HAVE SIX KENNELS AVAILABLE, DOES THAT MEAN SIX PUBLIC FACING KENNELS? OR DOES THAT MEAN SIX KENNELS PERIOD AND YOUR ENTIRE SHELTER? SIX PUBLIC FACING KENNELS.
BUT THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY ALSO IN THAT TELL YOU HOW MANY ARE IT? THE NUMBER SHOWS HOW MANY WERE MEET NEEDING FOR PUBLIC FACING KENNELS, BUT THEN THE NARRATIVES TELLS YOU HOW MANY WE HAVE IN NON-PUBLIC KENNELS.
SO IT WILL GIVE YOU A FULL BREAKDOWN ON THE SHELTER.
YOU JUST, IT'S NOT IN THE GRAPHIC.
YOU JUST HAVE TO READ THE TEXT.
SO REGARDING THAT, SO HOW MANY DOT LARGE DOG KENNELS DO YOU HAVE THAT ARE NOT PUBLIC
I'M JUST SAYING 674, ACTUALLY I'M WRONG.
AND YOU HAVE EIGHT TREATMENT FOR LARGE DOGS AND YOU HAVE EIGHT TREATMENT, SMALL DOGS.
SO YOU DON'T CONSIDER THOSE COUNTS FOR SPACE.
SO JUST THE, JUST THE SIX HUNDREDS IS THE ONLY NON-PUBLIC FOR DOGS.
SO ON THE MORNING SPACE COUNTS.
AND THAT SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NEGATIVE THREE ON PUBLIC KENNELS, WHERE AND HOW ARE YOU COUNTING THOSE ANIMALS THAT HAVE TO STAY IN NON-PUBLIC KENNELS, LIKE RABIES, QUARANTINE? HOW ARE THOSE BEING FACTORED INTO THIS NUMBER? TH THEY, THOSE WOULD BE A FIELD KENNEL.
SO THEY WOULD BE LOOKING AT, WE HAVE SO MANY E IN THE COURT IN THE TEXT, THEY SAY, HOW MANY ANIMALS THAT COULD BE IN PUBLIC FACING CRIMINALS THAT ARE NOT.
SO THEY WOULD SAY WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 20 ANIMALS IN NON-PUBLIC FACING KENNELS THAT NEED TO BE IN PUBLIC.
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THEY ARE QUALIFIED FOR PUBLIC FACING.SO IF WE ARE NEGATIVE TWO AND REALITY, THEN WE ARE PROBABLY HAVE 48 KENNELS AND THE NON-PUBLIC THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
WELL, THEY MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE, BUT THEY HAVE SOME BECAUSE SOME MAY BE IN, YEAH, YES.
I MAY BE AFFIRM QUARANTINE IF THEY HAVE, IF WE ARE, IF OUR MEDICAL KENNELS ARE, ARE, ARE DONE, WE MAY HAVE A MEDICAL DOG.
WE MAY HAVE SOME REASON WHY THOSE ARE UNAVAILABLE.
UM, THEY MAY BE PART OF A COURT CASE THAT MAY BE PART OF AN APD GUILTY CASE.
THERE'S SOMETHING, BUT WHEN WE GET INTO A SPACE CRISIS, THEN WE, UM, WE MAY HAVE TO UTILIZE SOME OF THOSE CANDLES.
AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S ALWAYS AN INFLUX BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD COME IN.
IF FOR SOME INSTANCE, WE GOT A CALL FROM TRAVIS TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SAYING, HEY, WE GOT ALL THESE DOGS WERE COMING.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM ON HOW WE FIGURE OUT SPACE AT THAT POINT.
WELL, I MEAN, LIKE ON OLD SCHOOL, THEY USED TO HOLD KENNELS OPEN AND NOT FILL THEM IN ANTICIPATION OF INTAKE COMING IN.
UM, AND, AND THAT WAS THEY'D EUTHANIZED TO MAKE SPACE AHEAD OF WHAT MIGHT COME IN.
AND SO RIGHT NOW ON YOUR KENNEL COUNT, YOU'RE HOLDING KENNELS FOR WHAT MIGHT COME IN.
AND INSTEAD OF WORKING TOWARDS, WE NEED TO MOVE OUT ANIMALS THROUGH RESCUE OR ADOPTION OR FOSTER TO MAKE ROOM FOR WHAT'S COMING IN.
YOU'RE KIND OF RESERVING SPACES THAT CORRECT? NO, WE DO NOT RESERVE SPACE IN THE COUNT BECAUSE YOU'RE ACCOUNTING FOR WHAT MIGHT BE COMING IN.
THEY KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S A FORMULA ON HOW MANY, THE CHANGES, THE COLORS FROM RED TO GREEN, TO ORANGE, RED, ORANGE, TO RED IN TERMS OF HOW MANY WE, YOU KNOW, GREEN IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE OKAY.
ORANGE MEANS THAT WE ARE SO MANY KENNELS SHORT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, RED IS REALLY BAD.
SO THERE'S A, THERE'S, THERE'S A FORMULA THAT THEY USE FOR THAT REPORT.
AND WE CAN SEND THAT TO YOU ON THE NEXT REITERATION WHEN IT GOES OUT AGAIN.
AND THE FORMULA, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WAS MADE PRIOR TO SUCH RESTRICTED INTAKE, WHEN YOU'RE CONTROLLING, WHAT'S COMING IN MORE, MORE SO THAN YOU HAD BEEN WHEN THIS KIND OF, I THINK THE FORM HAS BEEN CHANGED RECENTLY.
I BELIEVE THOUGH, PROBABLY THE LAST YEAR, A YEAR.
SO, SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW ON YOUR COUNT, I MEAN, I RECEIVE IT EACH MORNING, BUT IT DOESN'T CREATE A CLEAR PICTURE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE THINKING WHEN YOU'RE OKAY.
BUT I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU'RE TIGHT, THEN, THEN WORKING ON MORE ADOPTIONS AND MORE RESCUE, I THINK THAT TO A TRANSPARENT, LIKE TRUE NUMBERS AND TRUE COUNT, AND THEN EXPLAINING WHY THERE MAY BE EMPTY KENNELS, BUT YOU FEEL FULL MIGHT HELP BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S REALLY HARD TO DETERMINE WHERE YOU ARE, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE THE FORMULA WITH WHAT'S AVAILABLE AT SHELTER.
CAN I FOLLOW UP ON THAT? CAUSE I THINK I'VE NOW, I'M NOW CONVINCED.
I FEEL LIKE I'M DUMB OR AFTER THIS CONVERSATION, UH, THAT'S NOT ON Y'ALL IT'S ON ME.
SO AT THE, AT THE BEGINNING, I ASKED THE QUESTION TO HOW, HOW ARE YOU NOW? AND YOU SAID YOU'RE SIX, YOU SIX OPEN CAGES.
DOES THAT INCLUDE OPEN CAGES IN THE NON-PUBLIC FACING COUNTS? ONLY PUBLIC.
SO HOW MANY NON-PUBLIC KENNELS ARE OPEN? I BELIEVE AT THE VOTE.
DEFINITELY SEE WHAT, WHAT VISUAL KIND OF WHAT MIGHT BE OPEN.
UM, BUT I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT LIKELY A FEW, IS IT LIKELY 20? IS IT LIKELY 40? UM, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE, UH, THAT WAS PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CRUELTY CASES BACK THERE, MEDICAL CASES THAT FILL UP IN OUR LAWRENCEVILLE TO GO BACK THERE.
I MEAN, I WAS BACK HERE TODAY WAS PROBABLY LIKE SIX OR SEVEN ANIMALS IN THE BACK OF THE SIX CENTERS.
MAYBE IT DOESN'T JASON, THIS IS MARK.
DO YOU WANT ME TO ANSWER THAT? I HAVE VISUAL KENNEL.
GOD WAS ANSWERING ALL OF THE SUDDEN, SO I AM, I'M SITTING AT HOME.
UH, SO I'M VIRTUAL, BUT RIGHT NOW, KENNELS IN PUBLIC THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ANIMALS IN.
WE HAVE, UH, EIGHT IN THE FOUR HUNDREDS, UH, SIX IN ONE SIDE OF THE FIVE HUNDREDS AND THEN, UH,
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EIGHT AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE 500.AND I'M CAREFUL WHEN I SAY THE 500, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY KEEP, UH, ANIMALS WITH RESPIRATORY ISSUES.
AND I'M NOT SURE WHICH SIDE IS WHICH, AND THEN WE HAVE ALL, BUT ONE KENNEL IN THE ONE, HUNDREDS IS DOUBLED WITH DOGS IN THE SUITES.
AND THESE ARE DOGS THAT ARE PAIRED BECAUSE THEY GET ALONG WELL WITH EACH OTHER AND, AND IT HELPS US CREATE SPACE AND ALL, BUT FOR KENNELS IN THE TWO HUNDREDS ARE PAIRED.
AND THEN WE HAVE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE QUITE A FEW OPEN KENNELS IN THE SIX HUNDREDS, WHICH IS, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME MULTIPLES IN THE 600 CAUSE WE HAVE SOME MOMS WITH PUPPIES.
SO WHAT'S THE OPEN AND THE SIX HUNDREDS.
UM, RIGHT NOW, LET ME COUNT REAL QUICK.
WE HAVE 11 OPEN IN THE SIX HUNDREDS AND THAT'S THE NON-PUBLIC RAVES OBSERVATION KENNEL.
AND THEN OUR MAIN SUITES IN THE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE LOBBY, THOSE ARE TO HAVE TWO DOGS IN IT AND TO HAVE ONLY ONE DOG IN THEM.
AND THEN THE OTS IS ALL SINGLE DOGS.
OF COURSE THE ARTS AND THE THREE HUNDREDS ARE BOTH FULL.
AND WE ALSO HAVE OPENED KENNELS IN OUR, UM, OUR INTAKE AREA FOR DOGS REALLY QUICKLY THOUGH, RYAN, CAUSE THIS IS THE SAME QUESTION I ATTEMPTED TO ASK EARLIER.
SO WHEN I ASKED THAT, THOUGH, YOU SAID, YES, THAT NUMBER IS CORRECT IN TERMS OF PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, BUT IN THE NARRATIVE, IT LAYS OUT SPECIFICS ABOUT THESE OTHER THINGS THAT ALL OF THE OPENINGS THAT MARK JUST LAID OUT.
NOW IT SAYS HOW MANY ANIMALS WE HAVE IN NON-PUBLIC KENNELS THAT NEED TO BE IN PUBLIC KENNELS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
BUT IT DOESN'T IN THE NARRATIVE.
IT DOESN'T SAY HOW MUCH SPACE IS AVAILABLE IN NON-PUBLIC.
NO, IT JUST SAYS HOW MANY ANIMALS ARE AVAILABLE THAT CAN'T BE SEEN BY THE PUBLIC EXCEPT ONLINE.
AND IF I MAY SAY PART OF THE REASON WE'RE SEEING SOME OPEN KENNELS NOW IS BECAUSE OF ADOPTIONS THAT HAVE GONE ON OR, OR RETURN TO OWNERS OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, ANIMALS HAVE LEFT THE SHELTER TODAY.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY IS WHEN THEY ANIMAL CARE TEAM GOES IN AND MOVES ANIMALS FROM THOSE NON-PUBLIC SHELTERS TO THE NEW PUBLIC SHELTERS.
SO THAT, THAT GOES ON WELL INTO THE EVENING SOME DAYS.
SO BY TOMORROW MORNING, WE MAY NOT HAVE ANY OPEN KENNELS.
WE DO HAVE SOME DOGS RIGHT NOW THAT NEED TO BE MOVED.
SO AS I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S ROUGHLY 33 OPEN SPACES NOW, BUT WHEN YOU WERE AT THE SPACE CRUNCH, THAT WAS ZERO.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
WHEN YOU WERE AT THE SPACE CRUNCH, YOU WERE ZERO, BUT ON YOUR SPACE COUNT, YOU WERE REPORTING WHAT LIKE NEGATIVE 30, CORRECT? YES.
IS IT, I MEAN, I'M, I'M UNDERSTANDING IT BETTER.
AND I UNDERSTAND LIKE THE MEDICAL KENNELS THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE AREN'T LIKE FREE TO PUT ANIMALS IN THAT AREN'T SICK.
IS THERE ANY REASON NOT TO MAKE THIS JUST SUPER CRYSTAL CLEAR FOR EVERYONE ON WHAT, WHAT, WHAT COUNT WHERE WE ARE? AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON THE REPORTING LIKE THIS WAY BEFORE I GOT HERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE INTERRACIAL GENERATION, HOW IT GOT THERE.
THIS HAS BEEN A, A, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THIS CONFERENCE, THIS, THIS CONVERSATION ONLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WE, WE TRIED TO PROTECT THEM WHEN I FIRST GOT THERE.
IT WAS JUST LIKE, THIS IS A WELL, AND EVEN YOU COULD, YOU COULD SAY THESE ARE, THE OVERFLOW CAN ALSO ARE.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO REPORT THIS BECAUSE I GET THAT EMAIL EACH DAY AND I KIND OF LIKE, THAT'S NOT THE REAL NUMBER.
I MEAN, AND I THINK THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ENOUGH THAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING, OKAY, THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE FULL.
THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE NEGATIVE, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY MEAN IT, THAT IT MIGHT REALLY HELP, BUT FOR TRANSPARENT PURPOSES AND CLEAR COMMUNICATION, IF WE CAN PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT LETS EVERYBODY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE, BECAUSE IF YOU SAY HELP, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE YOU WELL, AND WE MAY NEED EVEN IN LEADERSHIP OR EVEN WITH FEEDBACK, THE BELTS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNAVAILABLE, UH, KENNELS, LIKE DOES THAT, AND I KNOW I'M JUST SPIT BALLING RIGHT NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, INCLUDE THOSE WITH WHAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO USE LI LU USE ALONG WITH OUR PUBLIC KENNELS.
BECAUSE I, AGAIN, THAT'S THE THING WHERE WE'RE LIKE, IF WE HAVE TO HOUSE DOGS AND UNAVAILABLE KENNELS, WE'RE GIVING THE SNAPSHOT OF THIS IS SORT OF THE DEFICIT WE NEED TO CUT INTO SO WE CAN MOVE THOSE DOGS INTO THAT.
SO WE'RE GIVING THE SNAPSHOT OF THIS IS SORT OF THE DEFICIT WE NEED TO CUT INTO SO WE CAN MOVE THOSE DOGS INTO THAT.
SO IF WE'RE AT NEGATIVE 30, IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S 30,000 NEEDED TO MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC KENNEL SIDE OF IT, UM, ENDS UP.
AND THAT'S WHEN EVERYTHING LIKE WE HAVE NOTHING EVERYTHING'S IN, IN, IN MAYBE ENROLLING CAGES, MAYBE IN SOME OTHER FORM OF HOUSING.
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AND I'VE WONDERED WHY YOU SEND IT IN THE MORNING AND THAT'S WHEN IT GETS CONFUSING BECAUSE YOU HAVE ANIMALS THAT HAVE GONE TO SURGERY, BUT YOU'RE HOLDING KENNELS FOR WHEN THEY COME OUT OF SURGERY.SOME OF THEM COULD BE GOING TO ADOPTERS SEEMS THAT RUNNING IT AT THE END OF THE DAY MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE AS ALL THAT MORNING MOVEMENT THAT'S TAKING PLACE.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY ANY ANIMALS ENROLLING CAGES WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN PUT UP AND PUT TO BED BEFORE EVERYONE LEAVES.
IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU TOOK A SNAPSHOT AT THE END OF THE DAY AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE STARTING OFF TOMORROW MORNING, IT MAY BE A CLEAR INDICATION WITHOUT SO MUCH MOVEMENT AND UNKNOWN AREAS TO REPORT ON.
SO MAYBE I WONDER IF THEN WE COULD, THE REPORTING I THINK WOULD BE A LOT LESS CONFUSING IF IT WAS DONE AT THAT TIME.
WELL, AGAIN, I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT MORE.
WE JUST HAVE TO GO AHEAD DENMARK.
IF I CAN JUMP IN, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF REASONS FOR THIS.
AND AGAIN, THIS, THIS ACTUALLY HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE BEFORE I STARTED IN 2012.
UM, FOR ONE THING WE HAVE MORE STAFF THERE IN THE MORNING, UH, THAT IS WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR DAILY COUNT FOR WHO'S GOING TO SURGERY.
UH, WHO'S GOING HOME, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND IN THE EVENING, LIKE RIGHT NOW, AS THEY'RE MOVING ANIMALS, WE PROBABLY, AT THIS TIME AT EIGHT O'CLOCK, WE PROBABLY HAVE ONE ANIMAL CARE WORKER THERE RIGHT NOW.
SO EVENING REPORTING AT END OF DAY.
UM, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT STAFF SHORTAGES AND STUFF, LIKE THAT IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S VERY CUMBERSOME TO CHANGE.
WHAT TIME REPORT THIS? BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS HAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT FACTORS OF FALL IN IT.
AND ALSO WE DON'T GO WITH A SYMBOL NUMBER, SIMPLE NUMBER.
UM, AND FOR ONE REASON IS LIKE WE HAVE CANDLES WITH PUPPIES IN THEM.
SO TO COUNT THAT MOTHER AND PUPPIES, OR IF WE HAVE A BUNCH OF JUVENILE DOGS THAT CAME IN TOGETHER, A BUNCH OF CHIHUAHUAS THAT CAME IN TOGETHER THAT WE CAN HOUSE IN A FAMILY UNIT THAT IS STILL JUST ONE KENNEL, BUT, BUT BY THROWING JUST THOSE NUMBERS OUT THERE, AS OPPOSED TO THE NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE, IT, IT REALLY DOESN'T, THAT WOULD, I THINK, CAUSE MORE CONFUSION.
AND WE TRIED REPORTING ON THAT IN THAT WAY FOR A WHILE AND IT DIDN'T WORK WELL.
SO WE WENT BACK TO THIS AND I MEAN, THE EASIEST THING WITH THIS IS JUST REMEMBER THAT IF IT'S, IF IT'S A NEGATIVE IT'S BAD AND IF IT'S POSITIVE, IT'S GOOD.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE SIMPLEST WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT.
I THINK PALMER'S POINT THOUGH, IS IF IT IS WE'RE AT POSITIVE SIX AND IT WENT TO A NEGATIVE ONE BECAUSE SEVEN DOGS CAME IN WITH THE, AS YOU SAY, WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LEARN FROM THAT AS NEGATIVE BAD, BUT IN REALITY, WE'D STILL HAVE 20 SOMETHING OPENED KENNELS AND THAT'S PALMER'S POINT IS THAT SHE WANTS IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENT ABOUT HOW MANY ARE OPEN WHEN WE'RE TELLING THE PUBLIC IT'S BAD.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S AN ART AND NOT A SCIENCE BECAUSE YOU, HOW DO YOU COUNT WHEN TWO DOGS RUN ONE KENNEL? DO YOU COUNT THAT AS TWO? OR DO YOU COUNT THAT AS ONE? AND HOW DO YOU COUNT IT WHEN IT'S A LITTER? UM, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT OBVIOUS WHAT THE SOLUTION IS, BUT I DO THINK I DO AGREE WITH PALMER THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHEN THERE IS, WHEN WE'RE REALLY IN A SPACE CRUNCH.
AND I DON'T CONSIDER US REALLY IN THE SPACE CRUNCH IF WE HAVE 25, 26, 27 OPEN CAGES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON NO, I JUST WANT TO ADD, UH, WHAT'S A GREAT EXPERIENCE BE ON THIS GROUP.
I MADE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
I SEEN THE OTHER VIEW OF HOW WE CAN HELP THE SHELTER.
I AM SEEING EMPLOYED, BUT, BUT IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE IDEAS AND DIFFERENT IDEAS AND CAPITAL OF CONVERSATIONS.
UH, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE A WORD THAT THE PEOPLE FROM THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER DO BECAUSE, UH, SCENES AT THE END OF THE, I THINK 2019, UH, OTHER, UH, PARTNERS BEGIN TO PULL A LITTLE BIT LESS PETS PER YEAR.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A CONFERENCE ROOM FULL OF CRATES, ME AS A CITY EMPLOYEE OR SHELTER EMPLOYEE AND DOG LOVER.
I LOVE THE IDEA TO HAVE A COMPLETELY ROOM EMPTY WITH DOGS IN A CRATE FOR SITTING DOWN 22 HOURS.
THAT IT'S IS I THINK A HUGE, A HUGE CHANGE THAT THEY ARE SEEN IN ANY ONE CENTER IS DOING MAYBE A GOOD NUMBER OF RYAN IS SAYING HOW MANY CANNONS WE HAVE OPENED? HOW MANY I THINK, AND IT'S AN OPEN INVITATION.
IF WE WALK TOMORROW, THE TWO HUNDREDS NOW THEY'RE 110 AND TWO HUNDREDS IS GOING TO BE AT LEAST LIKE TWO, TWO PETS PER, PER CANNON.
AND HE'S NOT COUNTING AS THE OTHER ONES, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, I THINK IT'S ON, ON B 16, WE HAVE THREE CHIHUAHUAS IN THE NEXT ONE OR THREE.
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THINK THESE NUMBER CAN BE A GOOD EQUATION.HOW MANY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY GAMES WE HAVE AT THE SHELTER VERSUS THE NUMBER OF PETS.
AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE SPACE OPEN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE OTHER DAY, UH, OR JUST AN EXAMPLE, IF IT'S A TINY FIGHT IN A PLAYGROUP IN THAT MOMENT, TWO DOGS NEED TO BE IN QUARANTINE.
IT'S ALREADY TWO CANNONS TAKING ON THE SIX HUNDREDS.
PLUS THAT GROUP OF DOGS WHO WAS ON PAIR NEEDS TO BE SEPARATED, LIKE IN THAT MOMENT, SEVERAL CANDIDATES.
I THINK THAT THE REPORT THAT THEY ARE PASSING OUT THE NIGHT THAT WE ARE RECEIVING IN THE MORNING, UH, IT'S SOM A SPECIFIC, WE ARE NOT USING THE KIND OF SCHOOL WAS OUTSIDE.
FOR EXAMPLE, THAT THAT CANDLES WAS NOT IN A GOOD SETUP, WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT SUMMER AND THESE DOGS WAS OUTSIDE ALMOST EVERY DAY.
I THINK NOW MANAGEMENT IS DOING MUCH BETTER TO MAKE THE, THE PUBLIC, UH, KENNELS MORE VISIBLE AND MORE CLEAN AND MORE ORGANIZED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYBODY.
WE WILL LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO TRY TO MAKE SOMEONE THAT'S NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS, UNDERSTAND IT BETTER, BUT I DON'T WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE IT DEPARTMENT AT THIS POINT UNTIL THEY GET THAT DONE AND VOTED ON.
AND I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO, AFTER THEY GET THIS DELIVERED, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE, UH, THE VIRTUAL KENNEL PART IN CHAMELEON.
CAN THEY, CAN THAT BE CAPTURED INTO POWER BI AND REPORT ON AVAILABLE CANDLES? HOW MANY KENNELS HAVE DUELS AND TRIPLES AND ALL THAT AND SEE IF THEY CAN CRUNCH THAT DATA AND MAKE THAT ANOTHER DASHBOARD.
SO WE'LL ADDRESS THAT WITH THEM.
WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT WE WILL ADDRESS THAT WITH THEM AND SEE IF THEY CAN SOLVE THAT AS A REPORTING FUNCTION.
AFTER WE GET THE MANDATED 16 REPORTS.
I THINK THAT, THAT THE VISUAL KENNEL IS WHAT, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE SPACE ISSUES, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE PULLING BECAUSE IT GIVES A CLEARER PICTURE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THEM HAVE SPECIAL USES AND JUST TO FILL THEM ALL UP, MAY NOT MAKE THE MOST SENSE, BUT I THINK THAT IT CREATES A CLEAR PICTURE IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS ARE FOR.
SO THANKS FOR SAYING THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO PUT ON THE LIST FOR WHEN THERE'S TIME.
UH, SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO SAY HERE.
I MEAN, LISTENING TO THIS, THERE, THERE ARE TWO REALLY CLEAR WORLDS HERE.
THERE'S A WORLD GOING ON AT, AT THE SHELTER.
THAT'S VERY REAL AND IT'S VERY, YOU KNOW, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
IT'S COMPLICATED AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO TRY AND USE YOUR RESOURCES THE BEST YOU CAN.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT THEN THERE'S THE POLITICAL WORLD OUT THERE WITH THE PUBLIC THAT WHEN YOU SAY THE SHELTER'S FULL, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER WORLD OF PEOPLE WHO, WHO ARE HEARING THINGS A DIFFERENT WAY, UNDERSTANDING THINGS A DIFFERENT WAY.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE INTERFACE, HOW CAN WE MAKE THE INTERFACE WORK BETTER? SO THOSE WORLDS CAN GET MORE ON THE SAME PAGE.
CAUSE THIS RIGHT HERE, WE'RE CUT CAUGHT RIGHT.
BETWEEN BOTH OF THEM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM.
AND THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM EVERYBODY.
SO THE MORE WE CAN DO THAT, THE BETTER IT'LL MAKE MORE SMOOTHLY.
AND THAT, I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING THERE, ANIMAL WELFARE IS COMPLICATED.
IT'S CO IT'S REALLY COMPLICATED.
BUT I THINK THIS IS WORTH WORKING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, IN THE LONG RUN AND I'M NOT SAYING IT EVER RAN WELL, THAT'S ANOTHER THING I'M NOT EVER SAYING.
IT'S JUST, WE NEED TO MAKE IT BETTER IF WE CAN.
I MAKE A MOTION TO DISSOLVE THE WORKING GROUP.
IS, IS ANYONE OPPOSED TO THIS? OKAY.
THEN THAT WAS UNANIMOUS DECISION THERE.
CAN I SAY THANK YOU TO THE WORKING GROUP? SURE.
THAT WAS A LOT OF WORK THAT THEY DID AND I APPRECIATE THEIR WORK.
[3f. Austin Pets Alive!’s Future at the Town Lake Animal Center and the Maintenance of No Kill in Austin.]
ALIVE FUTURE AT THE TONIC ANIMAL CENTER AND MAINTENANCE OF NO KILLING AUSTIN.I, IS THERE ANYTHING TO SAY ON THIS AT THIS POINT? WE DON'T THERE'S THINGS WE DON'T KNOW YET.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING THEY WANT TO TELL US, THEY CAN TELL US, BUT IF NOT, WE UNDERSTAND.
I MEAN, THERE WERE, I GUESS THE CONTRACT AS PART OF THIS,
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UH, GREAT, THE CONTRACT, OF COURSE, THE CURRENT ONE LICENSE AGREEMENT COMES UP, UH, IN NOVEMBER AND WE, YOU KNOW, I'VE MADE THREE ATTEMPTS TO NEGOTIATE OUT ON THE LAST ONE.UH, THEY DIDN'T AGREE, BUT THEY HAVEN'T RESPONDED IN TERMS OF THEIR RESPONSE, A COUNTER RESPONSE.
AND, UH, THEY ASKING COUNCIL TO REVIEW AND LEGAL TO REVIEW OUTSIDE THE FIVE COUNTY AREA.
AND, UM, THAT IS GOING TO BE COUNSEL IS ASKED FOR ILLEGALS, UH, DISCUSSION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TOMORROW AND THAT'S ON THE COUNCIL WORK SESSION AGENDA.
AND, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
SHOULD WE LEAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA? OKAY.
[3g. Transferring Austin Animal Center Animals to Other Communities.]
AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER ANIMALS TO OTHER COMMUNITIES.I DO NOT HAVE A PROPOSAL TODAY.
UM, SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT ON.
UM, I WOULD, UH, INVITE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT.
THAT THEY'RE WELCOME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY OTHER THAN TO JUST ASK WHAT COMMUNITIES DID WE SEND PETS TO IN THE LAST MONTH? SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR THAT LAST PART OF WHAT RYAN SAID, WHICH COMMUNITIES DID WE TRANSPORT PETS TO THIS MONTH? UH, I KNOW WE SENT THEM TO WISCONSIN, MINNESOTA AND COLORADO.
DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHICH COMMUNITIES? UM, GREEN BAY, WISCONSIN, UH, FORT COLLINS, COLORADO.
AND I DON'T RECALL THE ONE IN MINNESOTA.
WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOU GUYS TO EMAIL US JUST TO LET US KNOW WHICH SHELTERS AND COMMUNITIES THOSE WENT TO? YES, WE CAN.
I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH AND I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT.
AND SHOULD WE LEAVE THIS ON? SORRY.
UM, ON THE TOPIC WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, TRANSFERRING TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, IS IT SPECIFICALLY YOU'RE LOOKING OUT OF TEXAS OR WITHIN TEXAS OR, OR JUST TO ANY PLACE THAT'S BELOW 95%? UH, I, I, ARE YOU ASKING ME WHAT, WHAT I'M REFERRING TO? WHEN I SAY I'M ASKING FOR THE TOPIC FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE TOPIC WHEN IT SAYS OTHER COMMUNITY, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.
JUST OTHER COMMUNITIES TO LIKE, NOT AUSTIN.
AM I MISSING SOMETHING? WELL, NO.
AND IT'S THE, IS THE CONCERN STILL THAT THEY'RE BELOW THE 95% REQUIRED OR, UM, A, THAT AAC HAS TO MEET? UH, IF YOU'RE ASKING ME WHY IT'S ON THE AGENDA, I CAN ANSWER MY PERSONAL CONCERNS IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME.
UM, YES, I AM PERSONALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE IDEA OF, FOR, FOR A FEW REASONS.
ONE IS I'M CONCERNED WITH THE IDEA OF TRANSPORTING ANIMALS, TO COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A LOWER SAVE RATE THAN OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT DISPLACES ANIMALS THAT ARE LESS LIKELY TO BE SAVED AND REPLACES THEM WITH ANIMALS THAT WERE ALREADY MORE LIKELY TO BE SAVED.
SO I THINK IT'S LIKE A NET NEGATIVE TO SEND AN ANIMAL TO A COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'RE HIGHLY LIKELY TO BE SAVED FROM A COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'RE HIGHLY LIKELY TO BE SAVED TO A COMMUNITY WHERE ANIMALS ARE LESS LIKELY TO BE SAVED.
I ALSO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE SPENDING ON IT, OF SPENDING.
I THINK IT'S CURRENTLY $150 PER ANIMAL TO TAKE THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
WHERE AS I THINK THAT IT'S LIKELY THAT THERE MIGHT BE PARTNERS IN AUSTIN THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE MORE ANIMALS.
AND THEN THIRD I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE SENDING ANIMALS TO COMMUNITIES WHERE WE INCORRECTLY ASSUME THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE NORTH, THAT THEY, UH, HAVE, UH, LESS QUOTE UNQUOTE OVERPOPULATION, THAT THEY HAVE A LOWER INTAKE PER CAPITA OF HER HUMAN CAPITA IN THE COMMUNITY THAT IS OFTEN A INCORRECT ASSUMPTION IN A ANIMAL WELFARE DOGMA.
AND SO I AM CONCERNED VERY MUCH OF US TAKING AN ANIMAL OUT OF A COMMUNITY
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THAT HAS A LOWER INTAKE PER CAPITA AND SENDING IT INTO A COMMUNITY THAT HAS A HIGHER INTAKE PER CAPITA.HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
AND WHEN, AND FOR THE PERCENTAGE OR THE LIVE OUTCOME PERCENTAGE FOR THESE OTHER, UM, WHERE WE'RE TRANSFERRING, DO WE EXPECT THEM TO USE THE SAME CALCULATION THAT AAC USES FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES? YES, WE WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RUN THE NUMBERS THE SAME WAY.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NOT A PROPOSAL ON THE AGENDA.
THIS, YOU ASKED ME WHAT MY CONCERNS WERE AND I'M TELLING YOU WHAT MY CONCERNS ARE.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE, IF I WANTED TO LOOK SOME SOMETHING UP AND, YOU KNOW, AND COMPARE THEM, WE WANT THEM TO USE THE SAME CALCULATION.
AND, UH, AND THE PERIOD, WHEN YOU THINK OF SOMEONE, IF THEY HIT 95%, IS THAT A MONTH OR THE PREVIOUS YEAR OR THE LAST QUARTER? I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? SAY, IT'S A SHELTER THAT'S BEEN PROGRESSING AND HAS BEEN 96% NOW FOR THREE MONTHS.
IS THAT GOOD? AGAIN, CONSIDERED THAT GOOD.
THERE'S NOT A PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, BUT IF YOU'RE ASKING ME IF I'M, IF I WOULD BE CONCERNED, SURE, I MIGHT BE CONCERNED ABOUT A SHELTER IN A COMMUNITY IF IT HAS A 80% SAVE RATE, BUT YOU SENT IT TO ONE SHELTER THAT HAS A 96% RATE TO ME THAT WOULDN'T, THAT'S STILL DISPLACING AN ANIMAL IN A COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO BE SAFE.
WE'RE SENDING ANIMALS FROM A COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'RE HIGHLY LIKELY TO BE SAVED INTO A COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO BE SAVED.
SO I PROBABLY WOULDN'T LOOK AT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL SHELTER.
I WOULD PROBABLY TRY TO LOOK AS BEST AS I COULD IN THE COMMUNITY.
I WOULD TRY TO MEASURE, UH, THE COMMUNITY DATA THE SAME WAY, IF, IF, IF THERE'S ANY WAY POSSIBLE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN FORT COLLINS, COLORADO, AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS THAT I COULD FIND, IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE AN 86% SAVE RATE, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN OURS, BUT I WAS ALSO INFORMED FROM PEOPLE IN COLORADO THAT THEY DO NOT COUNT OWNER REQUESTS.
EUTHANASIA IS IN THERE, UH, EUTHANASIA RATE, WHICH WHEREAS WE DO.
SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, IF WE'RE APPLES TO APPLES, THAT WOULD BE EVEN LESS THAN 80%, 6%, IT MIGHT BE 80% OR 78% OR 75%.
SO, YES, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT, AGAIN LIKE THE, UH, LIKE THE CAGE SPACE ISSUE.
IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT AN EASY PROBLEM TO SOLVE, BUT, UM, MOST OF THE REASON PEOPLE TRANSPORT ANIMALS IS BECAUSE THEY ASSUME MISTAKENLY THAT ANY, ANY COMMUNITY IN THE NORTH IS DOING BETTER THAN WE ARE EITHER BY SAVE RATE OR BY INTAKE PER CAPITA.
AND IF OUR REASON IS OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO SEND THEM WHERE, WHERE, UH, THERE'S LESS QUOTE UNQUOTE OVERPOPULATION, WE SHOULD CHECK THE DATA TO SEE IF THAT'S ACTUALLY TRUE.
AND WE SHOULDN'T BE SENDING THEM TO A PLACE WHERE ACTUALLY PETS HAVE A HARDER TIME GETTING OUT OF THE SHELTER ALIVE THAN THEY DO HERE.
IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, UH, UH, LET'S MOVE
[4a. Fire Code Requirements for Nonprofit and Commercial Animal Shelters and Boarding Facilities in Austin]
ON TO THE NEW BUSINESS.UM, AND WHAT WE HEARD, THIS IS FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR NON-PROFIT AND COMMERCIAL ANIMAL SHELTERS AND BOARDING FACILITIES, AND AUSTIN THAT'S FOUR EIGHT.
AND, UM, I MUST SAY THAT I WAS KIND OF DISTURBED ABOUT WHAT I HEARD TODAY, AND I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND, AND, AND RYAN BACK ME UP BECAUSE I'VE HAD A COUPLE REQUESTS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND, AND SOME FROM SOME PRETTY UNUSUAL PLACES WHO HEARD ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN GEORGETOWN.
AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT FROM WHAT, WHAT WE HEARD IS THERE IS, UH, A WEBSITE THAT HAS A CODE LOOKUP WHERE THEY HAVE SUGGESTIONS ON THERE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I MIGHT SUGGEST IS, UH, THOSE OF US WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS, I'M INTERESTED IN MAYBE RYAN MIGHT, OR LOTTA AS WE GO TO FDA.ORG AND TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT THEY SUGGEST.
AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A PROPOSAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY UPGRADE OUR, OUR ORDINANCES FOR SHELTERS.
WE HEARD SOME GREAT NEWS FROM OUR SHELTER.
I THINK OUR SHELTERS IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHICH MADE ME VERY HAPPY TO HEAR WHEN, AND I WAS GLAD YOU SENT THAT OUT.
SOMEONE ASKED IT, BUT IT WAS GREAT REPORT.
UH, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES, DOES ANYBODY THINK THAT'D BE A GOOD THING TO DO NOW SINCE WE HAVEN'T
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LOOKED UP SINCE THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE? YES.I ONLY HAVE A RECOMMENDATION CAN BE AN A AND I, I WAS THINKING OF THE THING, UH, AS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IF THEY HAVE JUST AN IDEA, IF WE HAVE IN THE CITY AN ACCIDENT LIKE THAT, HOW TO ACT, BECAUSE, UH, I THINK JUST GOING TO A GROOMING FACILITY WITH ONLY 20 DOGS AND TAKE THESE 20 DOGS OUTSIDE IS GOING TO BE VERY CHALLENGING.
I CAN IMAGINE WITH A, WITH A SHELTER, YOU CAN SEE THE SPRINKLERS.
WE, WE, WE HAVE THAT, BUT IF YOU GO TO APA TO COMMEND SOCIETY, TO ANY OTHER BOARDING FACILITY, THEY DON'T HAVE IT.
JUST, JUST BEGIN TO MAKE A PLAN OR HAVE A PLAN WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IF WE HAD AN ACCIDENT, WHAT CAN HAPPEN? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S ONE OFFICER, UH, ONE NIGHT OFFICER WITH A TRUCK WITH SIX KENNELS.
IT'S OTHER OFFICER ON CALL MARCUS LOAD CAN BE ON CALL, OR MAYBE I CAN BE ON CALL, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE CAN GO ON AND TELL, BUT THE THING IS, THE TIMING 15 MINUTES IS ALREADY TOO LONG FOR THAT.
MAYBE MAKE A PLAN WITH BEFORE WE SEEN COATS AND, YOU KNOW, NEW RULES HAVE A PLAN AS COMMUNITY AND SAY, OKAY, HOW, HOW WE CAN HELP IN CASE OF AN ACCIDENT, WHAT WE CAN DO.
WELL, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.
UH, AND I ALSO REMEMBER HEARING THAT IN GEORGETOWN, THE, ALL THE ANIMALS DIED OF SMOKE INHALATION, WHICH MEANT THE PLACE FILL UP WITH SMOKE PRETTY RAPIDLY.
AND NO ONE GOT THERE QUICK ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
SO I THINK IF, IF WE, IF WE ALL THINK ABOUT THIS, LIKE YOU COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS AND, AND WE'LL LOOK AT THE CODE AND MAYBE WE CAN KEEP THIS ON THE AGENDA AND, AND COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS AND SOME PROPOSALS FOR NEXT MONTH.
I DO A RESEARCH WITH TWO CONTRACTORS IN OSTEEN, UH, SET UP THE SPRINKLERS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA CAN BE BETWEEN 25 TO, I THINK $42 PER SQUARE FEET IN A COMMERCIAL CAN BE FROM 57 TO 90 PER SQUARE FOOT CAN GO IN.
GENERALLY IT IT'S A HUGE INVESTMENT PLUS THE WATER PALM.
DO YOU KNOW ALL OTHER THINGS, BUT I'M SORRY IF I REPEAT THESE A LOT, THE ANSWER IS IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE, AS A COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF US.
AND IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO TO HELP WE, THE COMMUNITY IS NOT EXCITED, THE JOB OF THE
I THINK IT'S, IT'S OFF EVERYBODY.
I ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY TOO, AS EVERYONE KNOWS, WE'RE IN OUR THIRD SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE SESSION UP AT THE CAPITOL AND REPRESENTATIVE JAMES TALERICO WHO REPRESENTS THE COMMUNITY IN GEORGETOWN WHERE THE FIRE TOOK PLACE HAS FILED A BILL, A STATEWIDE BILL HOUSE BILL 1 47, THAT WOULD REQUIRE ANY FACILITY THAT HOUSES ANIMALS, UM, THAT DOES NOT HAVE 24 HOUR 24 7, UH, HUMAN CARE.
THERE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO INSTALL SPRINKLERS AND A FIRE ALARM SYSTEM.
SO THERE IS A STATE LEGISLATION CURRENTLY FILED DURING THIS THIRD SPECIAL TO ADDRESS EXACTLY THAT.
SO ONE THING WE COULD DISCUSS POSSIBLY AS A, AS A COMMISSION IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S EGR, UM, PERSON, UH, ADD THIS TO A LIST OF THINGS THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS SUPPORTIVE OF AT THE STATE LEVEL.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO TODAY? I DON'T KNOW.
I, I, I DON'T WANT TO, UH, VIOLATE ANY RULES.
I JUST WANTED EVERYONE TO BE AWARE SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING, CHANGING SOMETHING AT THE CITY LEVEL, THERE IS SOMETHING AT THE STATE LEVEL ATTEMPTING TO DO THAT VERY THING ACROSS THE BOARD RIGHT NOW, BILL HAS BEEN FILED.
THE BILL HAS BEEN FILED AT HIS HOUSE BILL 1 47.
WELL, UH, I WOULD SAY THAT TECHNICALLY, UH, IT IS POSTED SO WE COULD TAKE THE ACTION, BUT THIS COMMISSION HAS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS KIND OF, UM, ADOPTED THE PRACTICE, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD PRACTICE OF ONLY PASSING THINGS THAT ARE IN BACKUP MATERIALS, JUST SO THAT THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN THAT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
SO IF YOU FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT AND NEEDED TO GET DONE NOW THERE'S NO, IT IS POSTED THE AGENDA ITEM IS POSTED, BUT I, I DO LIKE OUR PRACTICE.
UM, WELL THEN IF THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET PASSED IN A MONTH YEAH.
UH, I CANNOT SPEAK FOR THE GOVERNOR AND WHAT HE WILL AND WHAT HE WILL OR WILL NOT ALLOW.
UH, BUT IT IS ON, IT IS FILED AND WE ARE IN THE THIRD SPECIAL.
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I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE TIMING, BUT IT IS THERE.WHAT DID IT MAKE SENSE TO MAYBE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH, ALONG WITH PERHAPS THE BILL LANGUAGE AND, YOU KNOW, A NOTATION OF WHATEVER THE STATUS IS AT THAT TIME, ALONG WITH PERHAPS WHAT, WHAT, IF ANYTHING, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AT THE SHELTER NOW THAT WOULD GO SOME DISTANCE TOWARD MEETING THIS NF PA ONE 50 REQUIREMENT, AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT THE NFTA AND SEE WHAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS OR GUIDELINES ARE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER HEARD THAT CITATION WAS TONIGHT WHEN WE WERE PRESENTED WITH IT, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL.
BUT I MEAN, I I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT ALONG WITH THE OTHER THINGS I JUST MENTIONED, AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE SOME ACTION NEXT MONTH.
UM, I MEAN, I HATE TO PUT IT OFF, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, TWO MONTHS AGO, THIS WASN'T HAPPENING IN TERMS OF THE BILL AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE CITY.
SO I THINK MAYBE WE JUST MOVE IT FORWARD TO NEXT MONTH AND BE MORE PREPARED WITH MORE BACKUP.
I, I MEAN, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
I THINK, CAUSE IT MIGHT PASS WITHOUT US SAYING ANYTHING, WHICH WOULD CHANGE WHAT WE'D PROPOSE, YOU KNOW, FOR HAPPENING FOR HAPPENING IN AUSTIN.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, SO I, I FOR TICK PREDICTING THE 20, 21 LEGISLATIVE SCHEDULE IS YEAH.
AND SO IT WAS YOUR JOB PERIOD THAT I WILL NOT ATTEMPT.
SO THAT WAS YOUR JOB, KATIE? NO.
CAN I ASK, CAN I MENTION ONE THING? UH, I AGREE, UH, WITH WHAT LISA SAID, I ALSO, I'M NOT PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT DR.
RENDEZ, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON, ON YOUR PROFESSION AS WELL.
SO, UM, I WOULD INVITE YOU TO, TO, TO WEIGH IN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TODAY, OBVIOUSLY.
UM, BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES TO THIS.
UM, AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM SOMEBODY WHO WOULD BE REGULATED BY THIS, UH, OF HOW IT WOULD IMPACT THEM, I'LL CHIME IN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT WOULD AFFECT THE AVERAGE VETERINARIAN BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY DON'T, MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANIMALS THERE WITHOUT A STAFF MEMBER THERE.
I MEAN, WE, WE WOULD NOT DO THAT.
SO IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE MOSTLY BOARDING FACILITIES, RIGHT.
THERE IS ONE IN NORTH AUSTIN THOUGH.
UH, IT WAS SOME 180 3 AND DUVALL AND THAT'S A VET AND THEY BOARD ANIMALS THERE.
AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY THERE OVERNIGHT.
IF THE, IF THE VETERINARY CLINIC HAS A BOARDING COMPONENT TO IT AND YEAH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
SO ANYWAY, BUT THAT IS A CONSIDERATION, YOU KNOW, SO, WELL I THINK, YEAH, WELL, LET'S KEEP IT, LET'S PUT IT IT'LL BE OLD BUSINESS, BUT UH, JUST ANYBODY YOU HAVE IDEAS ABOUT THIS OR SOMETHING.
I JUST WANT TO, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED A MEMO THAT JASON HAD RESPONDED TO, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT PUBLIC FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T SEE THAT THE AUSTIN ANIMAL CENTER IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE.
WE HAVE FULL SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, HEAT DETECTION, SMOKE DETECTORS.
WE HAVE THE FULL ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES.
SO, UH, AND TRUST ME, YOU CAN ASK JASON HOW MANY TIMES HE GETS CALLED FALSE ALARMS DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AS WE HAVE VERY SENSITIVE HEAT SENSORS.
SO DURING THE SUMMER THEY CALL ME ALL THE TIME.
AND SO WE MAKE SURE WE CHECK IT OUT AND IT'S JUST, YEP.
IT'S GOT TOO HOT OUTSIDE AND LOOK AT SENSORS.
DO YOU HAVE VIDEO? IS THAT HOW YOU CHECK IT OUT? I MEAN, HOW CAN YOU SAYING IF IT GETS TOO HOT, WE HAVE AN ALARM COMPANY THAT, THAT NOTIFIES US.
AND THEN, UM, THEY MADE THIS, THEY WILL DISPATCH AFD AND AP WE'LL CHECK IT OUT WHATNOT.
AND SO IF IT HAPPENS LIKE DURING THE DAY, AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS THAT IF A STAFF MEMBER IS CLEAN AND IT CANNOT ACCIDENTALLY SHOOTS WITH THE HOT WATER HOSE UP AT THE, AT THE CENTER, IT GOES OFF.
AND SO WE HAVE TO HAVE RESET THE ENTIRE SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE AND, AND EVERYTHING WAS, BUT IF IT'S GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY, JASON.
UM, BUT, BUT AGAIN, YEAH, WE, WE, THE CITY CONTRACTS WITH A, A MONITORING ALARM COMPANY, UM, WE HAVE, UH, FIRE INSPECTIONS, UH, YEARLY ANNUAL ONES THAT, THAT WE HAVE SPRINKLER INSPECTIONS AS WELL.
AND SO, YEAH, WE, WE HAVE A FULL ON SUPPRESSION UNIT.
IF WE, IF, YOU KNOW, KNOCK ON WOOD, IF WE EVER NEEDED IT WOULD BE WORKING ON, I KNOW, I GUESS MY QUESTION, IF I CAN ASK REAL QUICK WAS DIRECTOR BLAND.
DID YOU SAY THAT THERE WAS A MEMO TO THAT EFFECT KIND OF SUMMARIZING WHAT JASON JUST TOLD US? UH, HE SENT AN EMAIL, SOMEONE HAD ASKED THE QUESTION HE, AND HE JUST RESPONDED.
SO I CAN FORWARD THAT EMAIL TO EVERYONE.
UM, I THINK I SENT IT TO TWO CHAIR, UH, UH NASER BUT I'LL FORWARD IT OUT TO EVERYONE.
YEAH, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
CAUSE I DIDN'T MEAN TO IMPLY THAT I THOUGHT THE SHELTER WASN'T A COMPLIANCE WITH ANY OF THAT.
I JUST THINK THIS IS SUCH AN UNKNOWN THING FOR MOST OF US, WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM IS AT THE SHELTER.
IT'D BE REALLY NICE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK
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AT IT AND THEN READ THAT IN FPA ONE 50 AND GO, OKAY, GREAT.YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE STAND AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO WITH IT.
AND THEN IF THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, HOUSE BILL GOING ON FINE, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT TOO, BUT THAT'D BE REALLY HELPFUL.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS? WELL, BRING, BRING ALL YOUR INFORMATION YOU FIND NEXT MONTH SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SEE IF WE CAN MAKE A GOOD DECISION HERE AND MAYBE PROPOSE SOME, SOMETHING THAT WOULD KICK EVERYBODY UPSTAIRS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE HAPPENING GEORGETOWN.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE WORDING OF THAT ITEM.
DOES THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED? BECAUSE IT DOES NOT IMPLY THAT THERE, UH, VETERINARIAN CLINICS MAY BE IMPACTED.
I MEAN, DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WORDING OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT NEXT MONTH? WELL, I WOULD SAY IF, IF YOU HAVE A CLINIC WITH BOARDING THERE, THEN IT'S A BOARDING FACILITY.
WELL, I GUESS I'M THINKING ABOUT LIKE MEDICAL CASES THAT MAY BE THERE OVERNIGHT.
SO THE ANIMALS COULD BE STAYING OVERNIGHT, CORRECT.
AT SOME OF THE CLINICS AND MAYBE NOT HAVE SOMEONE THERE 24 HOURS IT'S POSSIBLE.
THAT COULD BE HAPPENING SOMEWHERE.
UM, I MEAN IT'S HOPEFULLY NOT HAPPENING TOO MUCH.
UM, BUT YEAH, I GUESS IT COULD BE HAPPENING.
WELL, WE CAN THINK ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO WORD THAT, I GUESS.
CAUSE IF IT'S GOING TO AFFECT PEOPLE, YOU, YOU KNOW, SOME PROPOSING MAKES GOING AFFECT PEOPLE.
YOU WANT IT TO BE IN THE WORD THAT WE'VE JUST DISCUSSED AND TAKE POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE HOUSE, BILL 1 47 OR P OR THE FPA A ONE 50, MAYBE LIKE WE GIVE THOSE TWO SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT SINCE WE HAVEN'T READ THEM YET.
BUT AT LEAST THEN THAT TELLS THE PUBLIC, THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.
YEAH, NO, THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.
WE CAN, WE HAVE A MONTH OF, WELL, THREE WEEKS TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO WORD IT, BUT THEN WOULD IT BE OLD BUSINESS OR NEW BUSINESS? RIGHT.
THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.
WE DO WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THIS? I'M GLAD WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
[5. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
AGENDA ITEMS, WE KNOW THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ARE GOING TO GO FORWARD.IS THERE ANY NEW ITEMS ANYBODY HAS AT THE MOMENT? OKAY.
WELL, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE TWO PEOPLE CALL ME UP.
WE HEARD ALL ABOUT HOW, HOW WE HAVE TO DO IT AND, AND GET THEM TO ME, UH, BY MONDAY THE WEEK BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND SO I GUESS WITHOUT ANY OTHER, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS, UH, I WANT, WELL DURING THE MEETING AT 8 33, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
EVERYBODY'S SIGNED IN ON THE SIGN-IN SHEET THAT WAS PASSED AROUND