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[Call to Order]
IT IS SIX O'CLOCK SO READY TO START TONIGHT.ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HYBRID WITH SIX MEMBERS ON THE DIOCESE AND, UM, COMMISSIONER OR CLOSE TO PRESENT IT.
COMMISSIONER BRAY, PRESENT COMMISSIONER DANGLER, PRESENT COMMISSIONER GREENBERG HERE.
COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON HERE AND COMMISSIONER WOODY HERE.
AND I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER RAY, FORMER EX COMMISSIONER RAY, WHO HAS RESIGNED BECAUSE SHE'S, SHE HAS A NEW JOB THAT MAYBE WILL PUT US, PUT HER IN FRONT OF HERE.
SO I WANT TO THANK HER FROM AFAR FOR HER SERVICE.
AND THEN, OH, WHAT, WHAT? OKAY.
[Consent Agenda]
IS OUR AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.THEY WANT APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 5TH, 2021 B ONE, REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 3 6 DASH TWO SIX OH IT'S 2, 6 0 9 AND 2 61, 1 DAVIS LANE.
AND, UM, IF THAT WILL BE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, UNLESS SOMEBODY IS HERE TO SPEAK ON IT B TO REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 0 9 1, THE RET, AND THAT IS A DISCUSSION ITEM.
B3 REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 0 0 3 7 OTTO.
AND THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ASKED FOR POSTPONEMENT TO NOVEMBER SIX BEFORE REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 4 3 13 4 9 7 RESEARCH BOULEVARD, REZONING.
THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, B FIVE REZONING C 14 DASH 2021 DASH 0 1 1 9.
THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA UNDER CONDITIONS THAT I WILL SAY.
UM, THE CONDITIONS IN EXHIBIT A, WHICH IS MF ONE CEO AND B SIX SITE PLANS, S P DASH 2020 DASH 0 0 6 3 C AFFINITY AT TA TECH RIDGE.
THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR RECOMMENDATION B SEVEN FINAL PLAT WITH PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT J THAT IS 2019 DASH 0 1 4 1 0.28 SKYLINE PHASE TWO FINAL PLAT.
THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
B EIGHT FINAL PLAT WITH PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT J DASH 2 0 1 9 DASH 0 1 4 1 0.38 SKYLINE PHASE THREE, FINAL PLAN, FINAL PLAT THAT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND BOTH SEVEN AND EIGHT ARE WITH, UH, APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS.
AND THEN B NINE FINAL PLANT WITH PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT DASH 2 0 1 8 DASH 0 1 7 1 0.28 POINT S H.
GOOD NIGHT, RANCH PHASE TWO EAST SECTION TO FINAL PLAT DISTRICT TWO.
AND THAT IS DISAPPROVAL FOR REASONS LISTED IN EXHIBIT C B 10 FINAL PLATFORM APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAN C EIGHT DASH 2 0 1 9 DASH 0 1 1 2 0.18.
AND EXHIBIT C B 11, UM, SUBDIVISION VACATION, C EIGHT DASH SEVEN SIX DASH 0 2 3.
UM, THE BACK RIGHT RALPH WHITE EDITION.
THAT IS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL AND B 12 SUBDIVISION VACATION WAS WITHDRAWN FOR POSTING AREA ERROR.
SO BEFORE WE PASS OUR CONSENT AGENDA, IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO IS HERE, HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS? AND THAT WOULD BE B ONE B2, I MEAN, B ONE, I'M SORRY.
UM, AND ANY OF THE BEFORE B FIVE? UM, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND THANK YOU FOR, AND THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT AND CLAIRE MAKING SURE THAT'S IN THE RECORD.
SO, SO THE CONDITION LAYS ON ANDREW RIVERA.
IF WE COULD JUST VERIFY THAT, UM, B THREE IS A PLUMBING TO NOVEMBER SIX.
I PROBABLY SAID SOMETHING ELSE OR AS I WAS PASSING OUT UNDER MY MASK, UM, OKAY.
APPLICANT POSTPONEMENT TO NOVEMBER 16TH
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AND THAT IS B3, THE SUN AUTO.DO WE HAVE THE OPTION TO JUST TAKE SONATO AND GIVEN AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT IT'S BEEN POSTPONED SO MANY TIMES, IT FEELS LIKE THEY SHOULD GET RE NOTICED WHEN IT REALLY COMES BACK FOR REAL, YES.
COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU WISH TO, YOU COULD DO THAT.
IT WILL BE REALLY NOTICED AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE WHOLE INTENT OF THE POSTPONEMENT IS TO AMEND THE REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT IS CONSIDERING AMENDING IT, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO POSTPONE IT INDEFINITELY, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AN OPTION AS WELL.
SO, WHICH OF COURSE MEANS THAT TO 180 DAYS.
SO WHY DON'T, IT'S BEEN ALMOST 180 DAYS, OUR FIRST POSTPONEMENT, WHY DON'T WE DO AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT? CAUSE I'VE ALSO BEEN WATCHING AND YOU PRO AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN CEDAR PARK BECAUSE IT'S CONTINGENT UPON WHAT THEY DO IN CEDAR PARK.
AND IT'S NOT EVEN ON THE AGENDA YET.
I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE PLANNER, WHO'S WORKING ON IT IN CEDAR PARK BACK AND FORTH.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST COMMISSIONER KOSTA? SORRY.
I'M JUST NOT DONE ONE OF THESE BEFORE.
SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT WOULD JUST NO LONGER BE ON THE AGENDA UNTIL THEY CAN PROVE THAT THEY'RE RIGHT TO PRESENT THAT? IS THAT THE INTENT OR 180 DAYS? YES.
WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A MOTION SO WE CAN JUST SAY INDEFINITE.
SO WE WILL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THANK YOU BECAUSE THAT'LL JUST MAKE IT EASIER FOR ALL OF US.
THAT'S GOSH, I'VE GOT TO BE FIVE ON THE BRAIN.
AND WE'LL JUST MAKE THAT AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT AND IT SEEMS LIKE A NO BRAINER COMMISSIONER.
UM, I SEE THAT ITEM ONE IS PUT ON CONSENT.
I'VE WANTED TO ENSURE WE HAD A VEGETATIVE BUFFER ON THE SIDE YARD.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE AT ALL? UH, I'M SORRY.
UM, AT, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WHY DON'T WE PULL THAT ONE REAL QUICK? UM, BUT I CAN KEEP IT ON CONSENT IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH, I WAS HOPING TO ADD ANOTHER FIVE FEET TO THE SIDE YARD SETBACK AND DO A VEGETATIVE BUFFER YOUR, YOUR, ONE OF YOUR PROPERTIES, ONE OF THE EXISTING HOUSES ENCROACHING ALREADY ON THAT FIVE FEET.
SO I WAS TRYING TO MOVE IT BACK.
YOU HAVE ENOUGH WIDTH TO DO IT AT A MINIMUM.
I THINK YOU SHOULD BE DOING A VEGETATIVE BUFFER FOR SOME PRIVACY BECAUSE OF THE ADU.
SO WHICH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY YOU'RE REFERRING TO, I'M REFERRING TO THE WESTERN SIDE.
YOU'RE PULLING IT RIGHT? UH, WE, WE CAN PULL IT.
I MEAN, YOU SAID, LET ME, MAY I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT REAL QUICK? CAN WE JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION, CAN WE REQUEST A BUFFER ZONE THROUGH ZONING? THIS IS A ZONING CHANGE.
YEAH, NO, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
SO B ONE IS, UM, NOW A DISCUSSION ITEMS. SO I WILL, UM, EVERYTHING THAT I SAID EXCEPT B ONE IS NOT APPROVED.
IS THERE A MOTION I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AND DO A CONSENT AGENDA FOR, UH, IN, UH, REZONING FOR PART AGAIN, I DIDN'T, THREE IS POSTPONED ITEMS. FOUR THROUGH EIGHT ARE APPROVED ITEMS NINE AND 10 ARE DISAPPROVED WITH REASONS BASED ON EXHIBIT C IN EACH CASE, ITEM 11 IS APPROVED AND THEN ITEM 12 OF WITHDRAWN.
AND TO JUST CLARIFY, TO JUST MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THAT, UM, AND B FIVE, IT'S APPROVED WITH THE EXHIBIT, THE CONDITIONS IN EXHIBIT
IS THERE A SECOND CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LIAISON FOR REFERRAL? JUST CLEAR THE MINUTES PLEASE.
THE MINUTES WERE INCLUDED IN THE MOTION TO RENO.
AND COMMISSIONER ACROSS TO THE SECOND AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AND I'LL LOOK AT THE DIETS OR THE VIRTUAL DYESS FIRST, ALL THOSE RAISE YOUR HANDS ARE JUST, I THINK THAT'S UNANIMOUS.
[B.1. C14-2021-0136 - 2609 and 2611 Davis Lane; District 5 (Part 1 of 2)]
B ONE, THE REZONING C 14 DEATHS, 2021 TO 6 0 9 AND 2 6 1 1 DAVIS LANE.[00:10:03]
NO, I DON'T THINK WE NEED A STAFF PRESENTATION.IT, MY CONCERN WAS ESSENTIALLY, WE HAD THAT BEFORE.
MY CONCERN WAS JUST THINKING WE NEEDED A LITTLE MORE OF A SIDE YARD SETBACK.
SO IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT, MR. WHITLAM, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
THE CHAIR CONVENTION WAS ON THERE BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THAT.
IF WE SHOULD ALLOW THEM, OUR PEOPLE WHO REGISTERED TO SPEAK, UH, 10 MINUTES TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM, DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS? WE HAVE THE APPLICANTS AND THE APPLICANTS ARE REPRESENTED.
COMMUNITY CENTER IS MY NAME'S JIM WETLAND.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF, UH, JEFFREY DAVIS, THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, WE'LL DO THE FIVE FOOT ADDITIONAL SETBACK, AND WE WILL DO A VEGETATIVE BUFFER.
HE'S ALREADY TALKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND EVEN INVITED THEM TO SAY, WHAT KIND OF PLANTS DO YOU WANT ME TO PLANT? BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY SEEM LIKE A, LIKE A, A REASONABLE THING.
I MEAN, WE'RE BUFFERING MORE TO PROTECT OUR VIEW THAN SOMEBODY ELSE'S, TO BE HONEST WITH YA.
I MEAN, WE'LL DO IT, BUT YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE PRIVACY FOR THE, THE, THE EIGHT YEAR ADDING AN ADU IN THE DEEP PART OF THAT LOT.
AND YOU HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE PURPOSE WILL BE PERPENDICULAR TO IT.
SO THE VEGETATIVE BUFFER SHOULD SIMPLY, I WASN'T TRYING TO FENCE IT.
I WOULDN'T TRY TO ASK YOU TO PUT MATURE TREES.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE.
YEAH, WELL, WE WE'LL FENCE IT.
WE WILL ADD TREES AND WE WILL ADD CLEAR STORY WINDOWS SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN A FISH BALL.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I GUESS NOBODY SHOWED UP TO, UM, TO SPEAK AGAINST IT.
SO I'LL JUST QUIT RIGHT THERE.
OKAY, SO, SO I'LL MOVE TO, UH, PROVE THE, UM, APPROVE THE REZONING, UH, PROVIDED THERE IS AN INCREASED SIDE YARD SETBACK OF FIVE FEET FOR A TOTAL OF 10 FEET SETBACK AND A MAINTENANCE OF A VEGETATIVE BUFFER.
I CAN'T, WE CAN'T ADDRESS THE WINDOW ISSUE.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
AND COMMISSIONER GREENBERG IS STRUGGLING.
I'M GOING TO GO TO COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, AND THEN I'M GOING TO DO THE, THE VIRTUAL AND I SAW IT, UM, COMMISSIONER KING WITH HIS HAND UP, CLARIFY THAT IT'S JUST THE WESTERN SIDE.
THIS WESTERN SIDE SETBACK OR THE SIDE YARD SETBACK ON THE WESTERN SIDE SHOULD BE INCREASED FIVE ADDITIONAL FEET FOR A TOTAL OF 10 FEET SETBACK.
UM, MAINTAIN VEGETATION IN THAT SETBACK TO PUT VEGETATION IN THAT SETBACK.
AND COMMISSIONER KING, DID YOU STILL HAVE A QUESTION? NO.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR THERE WAS A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER DANGLER AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.
THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND IT LOOKS UNANIMOUS.
[B.2. C14-2021-0091 - The Rhett; District 1]
B2, THE REZONING, THE REP CITY IT'S SERIOUS OR WAIT IS WHAT THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.THIS IS ITEM NUMBER B2, WHICH IS KC 14, 20 21 0 0 9 1.
THE RED, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 1000 EAST J YOUR LANE.
THIS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR GRM UCO.
THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY WILL PERMIT WE'RE PROHIBITED AUTOMOTIVE RENTALS, AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR, AUTOMOTIVE SALES AUTOMOTIVE, WASHING DROP-OFF RECYCLING COLLECTION FACILITY, EXTERMINATING SERVICES, FUNERAL SERVICES, SERVICE STATION, OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT, OUTDOOR SPORTS RECREATION USES ON THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS A 2.68 ACRE UNDEVELOPED TRACT OF LAND THAT FRONTS EASY ACRE LANE.
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TRACT OF LAND TO THE NORTH AND WEST IS OWNED LRC O AND IS UNDEVELOPED FURTHER TO THE NORTH.THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SF THREE ZONING AND SINGLE-FAMILY AND DUPLEX RESIDENCES TO THE EAST AT THE CORNER NORTHWEST CORNER OF EAST JAGER LANE AND TOMPKINS DRIVE.
THERE'S AN OFFICE RETAIL CENTER AND A CONVENIENCE STORE WITH A SERVICE STATION.
THE ATTRACTIVE LAND TO THE SOUTH ACROSS EAST JAGER LANE IS OWN.
DR IS DEVELOPED WITH TOWNHOUSE RESIDENCES.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING GRR AMU ZONING TO DEVELOP A MIXED USE PROJECT WITH UP TO 250 MULTIFAMILY DWELLING UNITS AT THIS LOCATION, THIS 2.68 ACRE TRACK.
THIS IS PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT OR THE FIVE ACRE SITE THAT WILL PARTICIPATE IN THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED PROGRAM.
AND I HAVE CONTACTED ALEX RADKEY, THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR, AND SHE HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED AN AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED APPLICATION FOR THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
THIS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING GRM UCO ZONING WITH A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT PROHIBITS THE MORE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USES ON THIS SITE ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN NORTH, SOUTH AND WEST.
THE SITE UNDER CONSIDERATION MEETS THE INTENT OF THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL MIXED USE COMBINING DISTRICT, AS IT IS ACCESSIBLE FROM A MAJOR TRAFFIC WAY.
EAST JAGER LANE IS APPROXIMATELY 0.7 LINEAR MODELS FROM THE EAST PARMER LANE ACTIVITY CORRIDOR.
THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY WILL RIDE FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS AREA.
AND THE APPLICANT AGREES WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER AND ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
AND NOW I BELIEVE RON THROWER OR TORI I'M VICTORIA.
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS VICTORIA HASI WITH RIVER DESIGN ON BEHALF OF THE LANDOWNER AND THE DEVELOPER, UM, AS SHERRY SAID, THE SUBJECTS, WELL, THE SUBJECT SITE IS SHOWN HERE IN BLUE.
AND AS SHERRY SAID, IT'S A 2.6 ACRE PORTION OF A FIVE ACRE TRACT WITH OVER 500 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON EAST YEAGER LANE.
IT IS UNDEVELOPED, THEREFORE WILL NOT DISPLACE ANYONE.
AND THE SITE IS ON A CAPITAL METRO BUS ROUTE AND HAS A BUS STOP.
THAT IS ABOUT A QUARTER MILE AWAY WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THERE IS AN IMAGINED AUSTIN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR, TWO SCHOOLS, ONE PUBLIC, ONE CHARTER, AS WELL AS ACCESS TO, TO CITY OF AUSTIN PARKS.
FURTHER, THERE ARE ABOUT FIVE CHURCHES ON THIS STRETCH OF ECA GRILLING.
THE AREA IS ZONED LR TODAY, AND THE REQUEST IS FOR GRM.
YOU, AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE GR ZONING THAT'S TO THE EAST OF THE TRACT THAT HAS A COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER TODAY.
THE REST OF THE FIVE ACRE TRACT WILL REMAIN LR AND WILL SERVE AS A TRANSITIONAL BUFFER TO, FOR THE, UH, SINGLE-FAMILY PROPERTIES PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH.
AS SHERRY MENTIONED, THERE IS A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY PROPOSED BY STAFF TO PROHIBIT THE FOLLOWING USES.
WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.
AND THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS FOR A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT OF 215 UNITS.
A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THOSE WILL BE INCOME RESTRICTED THROUGH THE CITY'S AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED PROGRAM.
AND THE BUILDING IS PROPOSED AT FIVE STORIES OR ANYWHERE FROM 55 TO 64 FEET IN HEIGHT, IT WILL CONSTRUCT ALMOST 900 FEET OF SIDEWALK ON YEAGER AND COPPERFIELD DRIVE BRINGING MUCH NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND CONNECTIVITY.
SIDEWALKS ON JAEGER LANG WILL BE IN A PUBLIC EASEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT FURTHER.
THE PROJECT WILL ALSO CONSTRUCT WATER QUALITY AND DETENTION ONSITE.
THE PROJECT IS PRIMARILY DESIGNED AS 60 FEET WITH EXCEPTION OF A ROOF ELEMENT EXTENDING BUILDING HEIGHT, 64 FEET.
A SUCCESSFUL REZONING WILL ALLOW FOR THIS DESIGN ELEMENT, AND WE'LL ALSO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY IN THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS.
SHOULD THE CITY REQUIRE CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN, UH, FROM WHAT IS, UM, DESIGNED TODAY? THESE ARE RENDERING SHOWING THE BUILDING WITH, AND WITHOUT THE ROOF ELEMENT WITH WOULD BE IN THE UPPER LEFT-HAND CORNER.
AND WITHOUT THE ROOF ELEMENT IS IN THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND CORNER.
THE 64 FEET WILL ALLOW FOR BETTER BUILDING DESIGN AND ALSO HELPS TO ADDRESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE NOT AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
THESE ARE TWO MORE IMAGES SHOWING THE REEF ELEMENT AT A DIFFERENT ANGLE WHILE THE REZONING REQUEST IS NOT.
WHILE THE REASON WE REQUEST BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS NOT FOR THE ABILITY TO CONSTRUCT AN AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED PROJECT AT THIS LOCATION.
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THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS SET TO TARGET INCOME EARNERS AT 50 TO 60% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME WITH THE CITY'S 10 YEAR GOAL.FOR THOSE HOUSING, FOR THIS HOUSING BRACKET SET AT 25,000 UNITS OF WHICH ONLY 19% HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE PAST THREE YEARS SINCE ADOPTION, IN ORDER TO MEET THE GOAL FOR THIS BRACKET, 2,874 UNITS MUST BE APPROVED EACH YEAR.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT 215 UNITS WILL BRING NEARLY SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT OF THE CITY'S ANNUAL GOAL FOR UNITS IN THE 31 TO 60% BRACKET.
THIS IS A MAP TAKEN FROM THE 2020 BLUEPRINT SCORECARD.
AND NOT ONLY IS THE SITE WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTIVITY CORRIDOR SHOWN IN GRAY BLUE.
IT'S ALSO IN A HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS SHOWN IN BURNT ORANGE DISTRICT SEVEN HAS MET 16% OF THEIR 10 YEAR PRESCRIBED GOAL OF 6,651 UNITS MEETING THE DISTRICT.
MEANING THE DISTRICT NEEDS MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING COUNCIL, ADOPTED POLICIES AND PROGRAMS SAY THAT THIS LOCATION IS DESIRED FOR, UH, HOUSING UNITS.
NEW DEVELOPMENT WILL CATALYZE AND PRIORITIZE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THIS AREA.
AND THIS PROJECT IS BRINGING UNITS.
OUR HOPE IS THAT YOU WILL SUPPORT GOOD DESIGN OF THOSE UNITS WITH YOUR VOTE THIS EVENING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND THE ARCHITECT IS ALSO AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL.
AND THEN NEXT, NEXT TO SPEAK IS JASON PAUL HASKINS, AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
MY NAME IS JASON PAUL HASKINS.
I AM THE ARCHITECT, UH, WITH THE RET, UM, AND I WANT JUST TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE DESIGN OR ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE PROPOSAL.
UM, I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THERE IS A LARGE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO CAN NOT BE HERE TONIGHT THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY IMPACTED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT WOULD BE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL LIVE THERE.
UM, SO AS WE HEAR DISCUSSION ON THIS, PLEASE KEEP THOSE PEOPLE IN MIND BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO LIVE THERE, SO THEY CAN'T COME TODAY.
UM, AND JUST THAT RENTERS ARE PEOPLE TOO.
AND THEN, UM, AND I'M SORRY, I'M LOOKING AT MY SPEAKER'S LIST AND I, IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, RON, ARE YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? I SEE YOU LISTED.
I JUST CAN'T TELL IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS, BUT SINCE YOU'RE HERE, UH, CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, RON THROWER, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY, THANK YOU.
IS IT FOR THOSE IN FAVOR? AND LET ME GET TO, THEN THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP OPPOSED, AND I IS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE RACHEL MCNEILL, ARE YOU THE FIRST? YES.
AND YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES.
AND THEN AFTER RACHEL IS TEREK OR NO, SANDRA SANDRA MUELLER.
ALRIGHT, SO WHICH ONE DO I PRESS TOO? IS IT TO GO THIS ONE? OKAY.
SO I'M RACHEL MCNEILL ON THE BOARD MEMBER, PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD FOR WESTERN KENYA HOA.
WE ARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY.
UM, THIS IS ONLY REQUESTS CONCERNS THIS PROPERTY MADE BY AND IT'S BY THROWER DESIGN INSIDE A CODE THAT IS THE DEVELOPER.
THIS WE HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT THIS IS PRESENTED AS A HUNDRED PERCENT, A HOOD AFFORDABLE UNLOCKED PROGRAM.
UH, WE ARE NOT AFRAID AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHY SILVER SPRINGS APARTMENTS EXIST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY.
THEY PROVIDE TWO PARKING SPOTS PER UNIT, AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S JUST DOWN THE STREET, UH, UNDER THE AFFORDABLE, UH, UNLOCK PROGRAM.
IT SEEMS THAT THEY HAVE REDUCED DEMAND OR REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING.
AND ASSUMING THAT THESE FAMILIES ARE GOING TO HAVE ONE VEHICLE PER FAMILY, AND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO USE BICYCLES, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THEIR LOT RISK THEIR OWN LIVES TO WALK ON NIGGER LANE, BECAUSE YET WE'VE HAD ANOTHER PERSON HIT A FEW WEEKS AGO AND THEY WILL USE KEP METRO.
AND WE HAVE REALLY CONCERNED BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST WALK IN OUR BIKE LANES TO GET UP AND DOWN JAEGER LANE.
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SO I WANTED TO JUST TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT WHAT CAP METRO HAS TO OFFER THESE PEOPLE.IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY STOP ON YEAGER.
THE CLOSEST STOP IS ON TOMPKINS.
THEY CAN GET TO THE PARKING ROD AND THEY CAN GET TO THE TRAIN.
UH, THERE IS NO BUS ROUTE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO TAKE THEM TO SHOPPING TO THE HEB OR ANY OF THE OTHER SHOPPING BECAUSE WE DO OUR OWN PARMER LANE.
THERE MAY BE AN ASSUMPTION THAT THEIR BUS RIGHTS ON PARMER LANE, BUT THERE ARE NOT, THERE'S ONLY ONE BUS STOP AND IT'S AT MOPAC AND PARMER.
WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE'LL BE 215 UNITS, BUT THIS IS OUR GREATEST CONCERN IS THAT IT IS FIVE STORIES AND IT WILL, UH, KIND OF ELIMINATE A LOT OF PRIVACY FOR THE HOMES IN THE AREA.
ALL OF THIS IS REVOLVING AROUND THIS REQUEST FOR THIS ONE ARCHITECTURE ELEMENT TO RAISE THE CHANGE, THE HEIGHT.
SO THIS ONE ELEMENT CAN HAPPEN.
AND WE JUST DON'T REALLY SEE THAT AS BEING NECESSARY.
I WANT TO STRESS THAT THERE ARE NO FIVE STORY BUILDINGS IN OUR AREA, NONE TO THE NORTH, NONE TO THE EAST, NONE TO THE SOUTH AND NONE OF THE WEST.
AND THIS ONE, YOU'LL SEE THREE STORY, APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AND WAY OFF IN THE DISTANCE.
YOU'LL SEE THE OLD DILL OFFICES, BUT THERE, THIS IS JUST A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO PUT A FIVE STORY BUILDING IN.
AND WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, UH, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ALL OF OUR STREETS.
ALL THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS MUST USE JAGER LANE.
AND WITH THIS MANY PEOPLE MOVING INTO ONE SMALL SPACE ON JAEGER LANE, WE'RE GOING TO GREATLY INCREASE THE TRAFFIC ON A TWO LANE ROAD.
AND WE'RE, UH, REALLY KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS NOW AND NOT WAIT.
OUR BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT THIS RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, AS FAR AS DENTAL COMMUNITY, IS THAT IT LACKS SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR THE APARTMENTS FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THAT THEIR OVERFLOW PARKING IS GOING TO END UP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ON OUR STREETS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO PARK THEIR EXTRA CARS, THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
THE TOWNHOUSES ACROSS THE STREET.
THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY THEY'LL GET TOWED, BUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THOSE ARE PUBLIC STREETS AND WE JUST ALREADY ARE CONGESTED.
MANY OF OUR HOMES ARE MULTIFAMILY GENERATIONAL FAMILY HOMES FOR THE SERVICE THAT OUR COMMUNITY, THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
WE HAVE USUALLY IT'S LIKE THREE GENERATIONS IN THERE.
UM, SO REAL REALLY ASKING YOU THAT THE ZONING REMAINED AS IT IS THAT YOU FULLY CONSIDER THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT ANY BUILDING, ANY TALLER COULD HAVE ON OUR RESIDENTIAL SUBURB OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, PLEASE CONSIDER THE CONSEQUENCES THAT MAKING A CHANGE DOES NOT HOLD THE DEVELOPER TO THE 64 FEET.
ONCE YOU MAKE THE CHANGE, THEY CAN GO TALLER.
THERE IS NOTHING THAT SAYS THEY CANNOT.
AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY CONCERNS US.
THEY COULD CHANGE THEIR MIND TOMORROW, IF IT'S APPROVED AND THEY CAN GO TALLER.
AND THAT REALLY DOES NOT FIT OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, WE ARE A RESIDENTIAL SUBURB.
WE DO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SANDRA MUELLER YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
UM, SO I'M A RESIDENT OF COPPERFIELD TOWNHOMES LOCATED WITHIN 500 FEET OF THIS PROJECT.
I'M REPRESENTING MYSELF TODAY.
UM, I DO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT FOR THREE REASONS, TRAFFIC SAFETY AND THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL FOR THE RET THE CITY OF AUSTIN SHOULD REVIEW HOW 40% AFFORDABLE UNITS DO BEFORE STARTING A 100% AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENT.
IF YOU'RE ALLOWING AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH LIMITED PARKING, BECAUSE THE EXPECTATION IS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BIKE AND WALK TO THE BUS STOPS AS WHAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED.
YOU NEED TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY INSTALLS SIDEWALKS, THE LENGTH OF EAST YEAGER LANE, IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS ROAD.
THE SPEED LIMIT NEEDS TO BE LOWERED TO 30 MILES AN HOUR, AND THE BIKE LANES NEED TO BE PAINTED SO THAT IT'S VISIBLE.
JAEGER LANE IS A TWO LANE ROAD WITH A POORLY MARKED BIKE LANE ON ONE SIDE DITCHES ON BOTH SIDES, GREENBELT CROSSING IT TWICE AND NOT ENOUGH SIDEWALKS.
IT'S LESS THAN A MILE AND A HALF LONG FROM TECHBRIDGE TO PALMER.
IT HAS ONE TRAFFIC LIGHT AT TOMPKINS WITH AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THERE ARE APARTMENTS, A CHURCH
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IN HOTELS AT ONE END AT TECH RIDGE.THERE ARE CHURCHES, A SONIC AND AN IDEA SCHOOL WITH A THOUSAND STUDENTS GRADES K THROUGH NINE AT THE OTHER END OF THE INTERSECTION WITH PARMER WHERE THE CITY HAS HAD TO INSTALL A LIGHT CAUSE IT'S DANGEROUS.
THERE'S A SLIGHT HILL, WHETHER IT WILL BE LOCATED, THAT MAKES VISIBILITY A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT, DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY YOU'RE GOING.
THE SPEED LIMIT IS 40 GOING ONE WAY AND 45 GOING THE OTHER WAY.
AND THERE ARE MANY CHILDREN THAT WAIT FOR THE BUS AT OXFORD APARTMENTS, NEAR TECH RIDGE.
MOST OF THE HOMES, NORTH VIAGRA AND COPPER AND COPPER TREE, AND THE ENCLAVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE CAN ONLY ENTER AND EXIT ON YEAGER, WHICH SHE JUST SHOWED YOU ADDING APPROXIMATELY 300 MORE VEHICLES TO THE MIDDLE OF THIS PART OF YEAGER.
WE'LL INCREASE THE BUMPER TO BUMPER TRAFFIC CAUSE MORE ACCIDENTS.
AND THE CITY WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH MORE FREQUENT ROAD REPAIR DUE TO WEAR AND TEAR.
UM, THERE HAVE BEEN TWO PEDESTRIANS STRUCK BY CARS ON YEAGER.
SINCE THIS PROPOSAL WAS MAILED TO US AND A YOUNG MAN DIED ON THIS ROAD IN 2019, PLEASE DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND SAFETY STUDY REGARDING ACCIDENTS RELATING TO EAST DIGGER LANE AT, AND BETWEEN THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS.
BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, APPROXIMATELY 52% OF ALL CAR ACCIDENTS OCCUR WITHIN A FIVE MILE RADIUS OF HOME.
AND, UH, PLEASE DON'T ALLOW A FIVE STORY BUILDING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ONLY HAS TWO TO THREE STORY BUILDINGS.
THE RET IS SURROUNDED BY ONLY ONE AND TWO STORY HOMES.
THE INVASION OF PRIVACY AROUND THE APARTMENT IS A MAJOR ISSUE.
UM, EVEN THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND THE HOTELS ON PARMER ARE ONLY THREE AND FOUR STORIES HIGH.
SO PLEASE SUBMIT A RECOMMENDATION FOR A TRAFFIC AND SAFETY STUDY, HEIGHT, LIMIT THREE STORIES OR REDUCTION OF THE SPEED LIMIT AND POSTPONE THIS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
NEXT IS TERRY AOC AND I'M PROBABLY BUTCHERING YOUR LAST NAME.
THANKS FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK FOR A FEW MINUTES.
UM, WE'VE LIVED IN COPPERFIELD FOR 22 YEARS.
WE LIVED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE RAT IN, UH, WEST VIEW CANYON HOA.
UH, WE RAISED OUR FAMILY THERE.
IT'S FILLED WITH MANY WONDERFUL AUSTIN NEIGHBORS.
UM, SO I'LL COMMENT JUST QUICKLY ON TWO POINTS, UH, REGARDING THE REZONING APPLICATION AS HAS BEEN STATED, NONE OF THE, THE MAJOR APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE AREA OVER THREE STORIES.
I UNDERSTAND EVEN APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPERS, UH, NEED TO MAKE PROFITS PROFIT MOTIVE, BUT DO WE NEED TO PACK HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE INTO MULTIPLE FIVE STORY BUILDINGS ON A COUPLE OF ACRES IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO SATISFY THAT THIS REZONING ALSO OPENS UP THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE DEVELOPERS OR ANOTHER SUNDAY COULD BUILD A NINE STORY BUILDING ON THAT PROPERTY AS IS HAPPENING AT STECK AND MOPAC.
I UNDERSTAND WITH NO NON ADA PARKING GREEN SPACE AND OTHER STANDARD BUILDING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE CITY'S AFFORDABILITY UNLOCK PROGRAM, THAT IS A VALUABLE AND TEMPTING PROPOSITION.
I WOULD SAY TO MANY DEVELOPERS AND I SUSPECT POSSIBLY EVEN THE CITY, THE RISK OF THIS HAPPENING TO THE COPPERFIELD COMMUNITY IS NOT WORTH FOUR EXTRA FEET FOR AN AESTHETIC ELEMENT.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OF YOU LIVE IN COPPERFIELD AND I APPRECIATE THAT RACHEL SHOWED YOU SOME OF THE PICTURES FROM THERE.
SO WE'RE A LONG ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY OF MOSTLY WORKING FOLKS.
WE ARE TEACHERS, FIREFIGHTERS, CIVIL SERVANTS, HOSPITALITY WORKERS, RETIREES, INCREASINGLY TECH WORKERS, BUT MANY OF THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WE BELIEVE PROBABLY WOULD LIVE IN THE RENT, THE RENT, UH, WE'RE NOT AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE ARE AGAINST ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT FURTHER PUTS THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF OUR COMMUNITY AT RISK.
AND I'LL EXPLAIN AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, A CHILD DIED AND ANOTHER CHILD WAS SEVERELY INJURED POSSIBLY FOR LIFE FOR A FEW WEEKS AGO, JUST WALKING ON JAEGER LANE IN THE BIKE LANES WHERE THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS, IT HAS NO CONTIGUOUS SIDEWALKS.
ONE TRAFFIC CROSSING LIMITED LIGHTING AT NIGHT AND FOR A 45 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT.
AS WE'VE BEEN TELLING THE CITY FOR YEARS, IT'S AN OLD TWO LANE COUNTRY ROAD WITH OPEN DRAINAGE DITCHES, BUT LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF AREA HOMES AND APARTMENT UNITS NOW EMPTY ONTO IT.
IT WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR THE EXPLOSIVE DEVELOPMENT.
THE CITY IS ALLOWING TO OCCUR IN OUR AREA.
AND UNTIL THESE JAEGER LANE, EAST JAEGER LANE, PEDESTRIAN AND TRAFFIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES ARE RESOLVED, HONESTLY, NOT ANOTHER SITE AND BUILDING PERMIT SHOULD BE APPROVED FOR THE AREA.
IT IS GOING TO GET HARDER AND HARDER TO HIDE BEHIND THE CITY BUREAUCRACY WHEN KIDS ARE GETTING KILLED IN TRAFFIC, ON YOGA LANE, JUST WALKING TO THEIR FRIEND'S HOUSE.
AND WITHOUT THESE LONG NEEDED CHANGES, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF, BUT WHEN, AS WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE HIGH DENSITY, RHETT DEVELOPMENT, THREE, FIVE STORY BUILDINGS OF 215 UNITS SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF COPPERFIELD NEIGHBORHOOD EMPTYING ONTO AN ALREADY PACK.
JAEGER LANE WOULD ONLY EXACERBATE THIS INCREDIBLY RISKY SITUATION AS IT IS.
THE CITY IS MAKING LIFE AND DEATH CHOICES, BUT THE COPPERFIELD
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COMMUNITY ON THIS PROJECT AND THE LINE NEEDS TO BE DRAWN SOMEWHERE.EVEN IF YOU DON'T LIVE THERE, WE'D APPRECIATE IT.
AND THEN NEXT I BELIEVE IS SORRY.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE MAP IS REBECCA MCCANN.
I LIVE AT CARPENTRY CONDOMINIUMS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 1996.
SINCE I BOUGHT MY CONDO IN 96, I'VE SEEN OVER 600 APARTMENTS, ALMOST 100 CONDOS, TWO CHURCHES IN IDEA SCHOOL BE BUILT ALONG ACRE LANE, WHICH IS ONLY 1.3 MILES LONG, AND TWO LANES WIDE.
I AM NOT AGAINST AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AUSTIN.
I AM AGAINST THE REZONING OF 1000 EAST JAEGER LANE IN ORDER TO BUILD THREE, FIVE STORY BUILDINGS THAT WILL PROBABLY HOUSE OVER 600 MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
I ASSUME THAT THE COMMISSION HAS NOT ACTUALLY BEEN TO THE SITE WHERE ZYDECO PLANS TO BUILD THE RET.
YOU'VE PROBABLY ONLY SEEN THE AERIAL VIEW PICTURES, WHICH ONLY CAN COMPAS IS A VERY SMALL PART OF THE ACRE LANE THAT WILL BE INVOLVED WITH THE ADDITION OF THE WRIT.
MANY OF US ARE ALREADY VOICED OUR CONCERN ABOUT THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE ON JAEGER LANE.
THE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE IN VEHICLES WILL ONLY WORSE THAN WHAT ALREADY IS A DANGEROUS STREET TO DRIVE AND WALK ON.
JAEGER LANE HAS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF SIDEWALKS.
THE ADDITION OF THE RED SIDEWALKS WILL IN NO WAY HELP THE PROBLEM.
THE RED RESIDENTS WHO DO NOT HAVE CARS WILL TAKE THEIR LIFE IN THEIR HANDS, WALKING ALONG THE NARROW BIKE LANES IN A LETTER FROM THROWER DESIGNED TO SHERRY SWEETNESS.
I QUOTE THE PROPERTY IS ALONG AN EXISTING CAPITAL METRO BUS ROUTE.
AND AS LESS THAN A QUARTER OF MILE TO THE NEAREST BUS STOP, UNQUOTE YES, THERE IS A BUS STOP, BUT IT DOES NOT COME ANYWHERE NEAR THE CLOSEST HEB, WHICH IS 1.2 MILES OR WALMART, WHICH IS OVER TWO MILES FROM THE RED.
THERE WILL BE 260 PARKING SPACES FOR 215 UNITS.
WELL UNDER THE AMOUNT THEY WILL PROBABLY NEED, THEREFORE THEY WILL BE PARKING THEIR VEHICLES ON COPPERFIELD DRIVE IN MARKHAM LANE.
THE AMOUNT OF PARKING SPACES IS TOTALLY INADEQUATE ALONG WITH THAT IS THE TRAFFIC ALONG YEAGER, ACCORDING TO THE CITY ALONG YEAGER, ACCORDING TO THE CITY, I T I A WAS NOT REQUIRED SINCE THE ACRE LANE HAS LESS THAN 2000 TRIPS DAILY.
TELL THAT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO ENTER YEAGER LANE FROM CARPENTRY, WESTVIEW CANYON AND OTHER AREAS, NONE OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE ALTERNATE ROADS TO EXIT FROM, AND ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX OF 300, 111 UNITS IS BEING BUILT NEARBY.
THAT MAY ALSO INCREASE TRAFFIC ON THE ACRE LANE.
AND K X A N RECENTLY DID A STORY ABOUT THE 2019 DEATH OF A 19 YEAR OLD TEEN AND THE TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURIES THAT A 15 YEAR OLD BOY INCURRED AT THE END OF LAST MONTH OR WALKING ON JAEGER LANE, THE CITY OF AUSTIN, APPARENTLY WON'T BE ADDRESSING SIDEWALKS ON YOGA LANE UNTIL 2024.
THE ONLY PERSON WHO'S GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THE WRECK WILL BE THE OWNER OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE, ADJACENT TO THE WRECK.
IF ONE OR TWO COMMISSIONERS WOULD VISIT THE SITE, I BELIEVE THEY WILL FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY I EMPLOY YOU TO PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX, COMPLEX TO BE BUILT.
AND I BELIEVE HE HAS, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO IS HERE TO SIGN UP, WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? AND IF NOT, THEN THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
HASI AGAIN WITH RIVER DESIGN, SOMETHING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT, UM, I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CONCERNS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO REACH 60 FEET POTENTIALLY A LITTLE BIT HIGHER WITH 64, UH, WITH THIS ROOF DESIGN.
AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY TO THE EAST HAS GR ZONING TODAY.
THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TODAY TO REDEVELOP UP TO 60 FEET.
AND IF, AND THIS IS A BIG GIFT, BUT IF AN AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED PROJECT CAME THROUGH FOR THAT SITE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE 90 STORE, 90 FEET ON THAT SITE.
SO IT'S NOT INCONSISTENT WITH THAT.
THE ZONING THAT THAT TRACT HAS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AS 4 64 FEET.
UM, AND, AND THIS ZONING WILL HELP TO ACHIEVE THAT 64 FEET FOR THAT REEF DESIGN ELEMENT.
AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS NOT, IS NOT TO ASK WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN DO AFFORDABLE AND AN AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED PROJECT HERE, BUT IT IS TO MAKE AN AFFORDABLE PROJECT LOOK BETTER.
SO THE SIDEWALKS WILL BE BUILT, WILL BE BUILT ON THIS SITE, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
IF THE SITE DEVELOPS TODAY UNDER LR ZONING, THAT CAN HAVE QUITE AN ARRAY OF COMMERCIAL USES TODAY.
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WHETHER, WHETHER THIS SITE DEVELOPS COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL SIDEWALKS WILL BE BUILT THIS REZONING DISPLACES, NO ONE.AND IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO PROVIDE HOUSES FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE HOMES TODAY, PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE OR WHO ARE ALREADY HERE AND ARE HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING A HOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE WITH TODAY'S ZONING WILL HAVE A MUCH GREATER TRAFFIC IMPACT FOR THIS AREA.
THEN THIS AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED PROGRAM THAT WE'VE DESIGNED AND DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE IS ALSO GOING TO HELP BRING THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TALKING ABOUT.
IT DOES NEED THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
I DID A SITE VISIT OUT HERE, MYSELF, A VERY EARLY ONE MORNING.
I WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE TRAFFIC WAS LIKE.
WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THE IDEA SCHOOLS AT THE END OF YEAGER, UH, WITH THE INTERSECTION OF PARMER LANE AND HOW THAT HAD JUST MADE TRAFFIC SO MUCH WORSE FOR THIS AREA.
SO I DROVE OUT AND I SAT AT COPPERFIELD PARK AT SIX 50 IN THE MORNING, AND I WAITED AND WATCHED, AND I EVEN DROVE ON TO THE IDEA SITE MYSELF, JUST TO SEE WHAT THAT EXPERIENCE WAS LIKE.
THIS AREA DOES NEED SIDEWALKS.
AND THE CITY ADOPTED VISION ZERO AS AN EFFORT TO NOT HAVE ANY MORE PEOPLE, UM, FALLING VICTIM TO PEDESTRIAN AND AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENTS.
AND IF I CAN SAY ANYTHING, IT'S THAT THE SOONER THIS SITE DEVELOPS, WHETHER THAT'S COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, THE SOONER THIS AREA IS GOING TO ACHIEVE THE SIDEWALKS THAT IT NEEDS, WHETHER IT'S JUST FROM DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR LOT, OR IF IT'S STARTING WITH THIS LIE AND THEN CONTINUING ON WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA I REMAIN AVAILABLE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THAT IS IT FOR OUR PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
AND, UM, IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC? OH, OH, I'M SORRY.
OH, I WAS GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN GO TO, ARE PEOPLE QUESTIONING? IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE ALL POINTING TO YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN? SO I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND ON THE SCREEN MOTION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH, SECONDED BY CHAIR BERRERA RAMIREZ AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS FOR CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND NOW, UM, ANY QUESTIONS AND I WILL GO TO A CHAIR.
UM, I DO WANT TO SAY JUST AS A POINT OF INFORMATION FOR EVERYONE THAT, AND THIS IS ME WITH MY CAPITAL METRO HAT ON.
SO CAPITAL METRO DOES HAVE A PICKUP ZONE IN THIS AREA, WHICH IS VERY LUXURIOUS.
IF YOU'VE EVER TRIED IT BEFORE, IF YOU HAVEN'T TRIED IT BEFORE, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.
IT IS THE SAME COSTS AS A REGULAR BUS FEE OR BUS PASSAGEWAY.
SO IT'S A DOLLAR 25 1 WAY YOU GET THE APP ON YOUR PHONE, THE BUS COMES RIGHT TO YOUR HOUSE AND IT TAKES YOU TO AREAS WITHIN YOUR ZONE.
THE ZONE FOR DECILE INCLUDES HEB.
ALL THE COMMERCIAL USES ALONG 35 NEAR CZECH RIDGE.
UM, SEVERAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, PARKS IN THE AREA ALL THE WAY DOWN TO BREAKER LANE.
SO THERE IS NOT ONLY IS THERE A BUS ROUTE THAT LET'S BE HONEST, IT DOESN'T SERVE IT AS A, YOU KNOW, THE REGULAR BUS ROUTE IS NOT AS FREQUENT AS WE WOULD LIKE, BUT THAT PICKUP SERVICE IS NICE.
YOU ALL, IT GOES FROM 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM AND THE WEEKDAYS AND 10 TO SIX ON WEEKENDS.
SO I HIGHLY, IF YOU HAVEN'T USED IT YET, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU CHECK IT OUT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT THAT, THAT SERVICE IS AVAILABLE TO THESE VIEWERS AND IT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THESE NEW FOLKS IF THEY MOVE IN HERE.
UM, MY QUESTION FOR TORY, I WANTED TO ASK, UH, SO IT SOUNDED LIKE, AND I, AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I GREW UP IN CRAWFORD, PROPER FIELD.
I, WE, MY FAMILY MOVED THERE IN 1980 WHEN THERE WERE STILL PIONEER FARMS. SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
UM, AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH JAEGER LANE.
UM, AND, UH, I WANTED TO ASK TORI, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS, IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS SMALLER THAN THE LOT, OR YOU'RE, YOU'LL BE DEVELOPING ON A SMALLER FOOTPRINT.
WILL YOU BE CONSTRUCTING CONTINUOUS SIDEWALKS TO, UM, THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES ON THE EAST OF YOUR PROPERTY AND THEN TO CONNECT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TO MARK AND LANE AND THOSE HOMES, UM, NORTH OF THE PROPERTY, UM, YES.
COMMISSIONER VERA, THAT YOU ARE CORRECT.
UH, THE, THE SITE WILL BUILD SIDEWALKS BOTH ON COPPER FIELD, UM, TO CONNECT WITH MARKHAM AS WELL AS, UM, ALONG EAGER LANE THAT WILL CONNECT WITH THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, ALSO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE REZONING
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AREA IS SMALLER THAN THE ENTIRE TRACT.THE PROPOSED AFFORDABILITY ON LOCKED PROJECT IS FOR THE ENTIRE FIVE ACRE TRACT.
UM, BUT THERE, THE AREA OF REZONING IS ONLY FOR THAT SMALL PIECE.
AND THEN I'LL GO TO THE DIOCESE AND THEN I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER KING.
COMMISSIONER DANGLER, EXCUSE ME.
IT'S A QUICK QUESTION FOR MS. HAAS.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU ARE DOING 213 UNITS IN THAT SMALLER FOOTPRINT OF TWO AND A HALF ACRES, BUT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE DOING 213 IN THE FIVE ACRES.
I KNOW WHAT WE'RE REZONING IS THAT SMALLER BOX AND YOU LEFT TWO AND A HALF ACRES AND ZONED OR NOT ACTING ON.
SO WHY, WHY 213 FOR JUST THIS PARCEL? I'M THIS IS NOT MAKING SENSE.
THE 215 UNITS THAT ARE PROPOSED DO MOSTLY FALL WITHIN, UH, WELL, ALL THE BUILDINGS, RIGHT? ALL THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS THAT WILL BE THE 215 UNITS, UH, ARE MOSTLY WITHIN THE AREA OF REZONING.
THERE IS PORTIONS OF TWO OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT, UM, EXTEND JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THE AREA OF REZONING, BUT IS WITHIN THE FIVE ACRE TRACT.
AND YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED BY CODE TO DO ANY ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK BEYOND YOUR PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AND READING THE BACKUP WAS YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE REASON YOU NEEDED GR IS A BASE WAS SOLELY FOR THAT DESIGN ELEMENT OF FOUR SHEET.
UM, SO THAT FOUR FEET ISN'T ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL HOUSING AT ALL.
AND THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE APPLICANT AND I, UH, I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION, YOUR, MY, MY N AND D, WHICH, UH, UNDER AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK THERE'S TYPE ONE AND TYPE TWO.
AND IT, I WONDER WHICH, WHICH TYPE IS, UH, IS THIS A SITE GOING TO BE, UH, HA HAS THIS SITE APPLIED FOR, IS A TYPE ONE OR TYPE TWO.
THIS WILL BE A TYPE TWO PROJECT WITH 100% OF THE UNITS, UH, AT AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, AND 60% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO 60 IS, IS THE PLAN.
AND IT'S NOT AVERAGE, RIGHT? IT'S, THAT'S NOT AN AVERAGE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING NO, THERE WILL BE NO UNIT AVAILABLE ABOVE 60% AND THERE WILL BE SOME AVAILABLE AT 50%.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T REQUIRE 100% AT 60% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.
I THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THAT AFFORDABILITY.
AND IS THE, WHAT IS THE RENTAL PERIOD FOR THE, UH, INCOME RESTRICTED PERIOD FOR IT IS THESE WILL BE RENTAL UNITS.
AND THE PERIOD OF AFFORDABILITY IS AT LEAST 40 YEARS, AT LEAST 40 YEARS.
AND, AND, AND HOW WILL THAT BE ENFORCED AND HOW WILL IT BE MONITORED? SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING TO USE A LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS OR BONDS.
AND WITH THAT, UH, THERE'S, UH, A LOT OF OVERSIGHT INTO, UH, THE DEVELOPMENTS MOVING FORWARD AND HOW THEY'RE MAINTAINED AND HOW THEY'RE, UH, OPERATED, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO CONTINUE TO MEET THOSE INCOME REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS, UM, KEEPING THE PROPERTIES MAINTAINED AND LOOKING WELL.
SO AS FAR AS, LIKE, HOW SPECIFICALLY, HOW IS THAT REGULATED? THAT GOES A LITTLE BIT BEYOND, UH, MY WHEELHOUSE.
UM, I JUST TO CLARIFY, I'M SORRY.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY JUST, IS IT GOING TO BE THE OSTEON, UH, UH, HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION THAT, THAT HANDLES THAT? OR IS IT THE TRAVIS COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY, OR IS IT THE AUSTIN HOUSING AUTHORITY? WHICH ONE IS GOING TO ACTUALLY MONITOR THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE AFFORDABILITY? I GUESS IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHERE, WHERE THE FUNDS ACTUALLY ENDED UP COMING FROM.
AND I'M NOT SURE WE DON'T HAVE A, WE'RE NOT THE ARM OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT HANDLES THE, UH, PARTICULARS OF THE AFFORDABILITY ASPECT.
I CAN'T ANSWER THAT AT THIS MOMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WITH A TYPE TWO AND I BELIEVE ALSO TYPE ONE THAT THERE'S A LIMIT OF THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE OF FEET.
THAT COULD BE A, FOR COMMERCIAL USES FOR THE, FOR THE PROPERTY, THE ZONING THAT, THAT IS COVERED BY THE AFFORDABILITY ON LOCKED.
SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW IS THAT WHY
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YOU HAVE TO, I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE EARLIER I, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST UNCERTAIN ABOUT PART OF IT BEING IN THIS ZONING CASE AND PART OF IT IN ANOTHER CASE AND HOW THEY RELATE TO EACH OTHER.COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE MORE? UH, NOT SURE I FOLLOW YOUR QUESTION EXACTLY, BUT LET ME ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THE TH THE ENTIRE PRO DEVELOPMENT AS PROPOSED IS ONLY FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
SO WHILE THERE IS THE ABILITY TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, UM, THAT IS NOT WHAT IS PROPOSED AT THIS TIME.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THE TWO POINT, IS IT, WHAT IS IT TWO LITTLE UNDER TWO AND A HALF ACRES IS, IS, IS WHAT'S BEING REZONED.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
THE COMMERCIAL USES ON THAT PART.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY COMMERCIAL USES.
NO, AND WE WON'T HAVE ANY COMMERCIAL USES ANYWHERE ON THE SITE.
THE, THE ENTIRE FIVE ACRE SITE WILL BE THE AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED PROGRAM.
I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THAT.
IT JUST, I, I D I DIDN'T SEE HOW THOSE PIECES FIT TOGETHER.
SO, UH, SO, BUT YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO DEVELOP A 2.6 ACRES UNDER THIS ZONING, THE GR ZONING GRM, YOU WILL ONLY APPLY TO 2.6 ACRES.
THE AREA THAT YOU SEE IN YOUR BACKUP, THAT IS THE AREA THAT WILL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A HIGHER THAN 60 FEET, 64 FEET.
EXACTLY IS WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR.
AND, AND, AND EARLIER, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU EXPLAINING HOW THE SITE NEXT, NEXT DOOR THERE COULD WITH THE AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK COULD ACTUALLY GET 90 FEET, BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT UNDER TYPE TWO.
YOU CAN GO 1.5%, UH, OH, I GUESS 150% ABOVE YOUR CURRENT HEIGHT.
AND IF GR IS 60, THEN THAT MEANS YOU CAN GO 90 UNDER AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK TIGHT TOO.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU HELPING, HELPING, UH, FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE THIS IS STILL A RELATIVELY NEW ORDINANCE.
UH, BUT I DO THINK IT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL.
AND SO, BUT I DO ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT THE ADJACENT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, HOMEOWNERS HAVING, UH, THESE, UH, BUILDINGS SO TALL.
SO COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW THE SETBACKS FROM THE, FROM THE NEAREST, UH, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, CAUSE I ALSO UNDERSTAND UNDER AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK, THE SETBACKS CAN BE, CAN BE REDUCED GREATLY AS WELL.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU KINDA TELL US HOW, WHAT THE SETBACKS ARE GOING TO BE LIKE FOR THESE, UH, AFFORDABLE UNITS AS IT RELATES TO THE ADJACENT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES? UM, YES.
SO THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED PROGRAM, UH, ALLOWS VARIANCES FROM THE COMPATIBILITY REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN CODE TODAY, AND THEREFORE, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT.
STAIR-STEP THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY HAVE WITH A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY ZONED AND USE PROPERTY.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WITH THE CURRENT DESIGN THAT WE HAVE PUT FORWARD AND IS AN IN, UH, IN REVIEW BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN RIGHT NOW, AND A SITE PLANNING PROCESS, UM, THE FURTHEST DISTANCE OF A BUILDING FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ON THE WEST SIDE OF COPPERFIELD IS ABOUT 215 TO 220 FEET AWAY.
AND WITH REGARDS TO THE PROPERTIES THAT THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES ON MARKHAM, THOSE, UH, THE EDGE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING ISN'T ANY CLOSER THAN, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 85 FEET FROM THE SHARED PROPERTY LINE WITH A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE TO THE NORTH.
SO WHILE IT, IT DOESN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF COMPATIBILITY THAT A MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO ABIDE BY, IT DOES HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT SETBACK AWAY FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND I DO THINK IF COMPATIBILITY APPLIED AT 64 FEET HERE, I, I, I, COULD YOU, UH, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE 85 FEET WOULD BE, WOULD BE MORE THAN THE DISTANCE REQUIRED.
COMMISSIONER KING? CAN I, AND ACTUALLY I WANTED TO ASK, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP IN A KIND AND FOLLOW UP ON YOUR QUESTION, BUT ASK SHERRY, SHERRY, WHAT WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO? WHAT WOULD THE MINIMUM, WHAT WOULD THE SETBACKS LOOK LIKE UNDER AFFORDABILITY ON LOCK, NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT, BUT WHAT CAN THEY BUILD COMMISSIONER? UM, I DISCUSSED AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT TODAY, AND THEY HAD STATED THAT THEY WOULD BE ADVISABLE FOR YOU NOT TO TALK ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY AND LOST THE PROGRAM DURING YOUR DISCUSSION ON THE ZONING, BECAUSE WHAT'S, BEFORE YOU IS THE ZONING CASE, DID GRM YOU AND WE, THE AFFORDABILITY ON LOCKED PROGRAM IS VOLUNTARY AND WE CANNOT REQUIRE IT OR MANDATE IT THROUGH ZONING.
THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING DECISION.
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ANSWERING THAT.AND ALSO WE WILL JUST HAVE TO LEARN ON OUR OWN ABOUT WHAT THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS ARE.
AND THEN I WILL GO ONTO THE, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS HERE ON THE DYESS COMMISSIONER, A POSTER, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT, THIS MIGHT BE BREAKING THE RULES.
UM, I WAS WONDERING, I SEE THAT YOUR INTENT IS TO BUILD, UH, FOR PEOPLE BEING 60%, UH, OF THE AREA FOR A THREE BEDROOM APARTMENT.
DO YOU KNOW, JUST ROUGHLY WHAT THE, WHAT THE RENT OF THAT WOULD BE.
OH, AND CAN I ACTUALLY, CAN I ACTUALLY SAY, SO COMMISSIONER, I MEAN, COMMISSIONER YEAH.
UM, SO SHERRY, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE CANNOT EVEN TALK ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY PART AT ALL, WHICH IS INTERESTING, BUT IT IS A LAND USE CASE.
AND I ACTUALLY DO FOLLOW THAT LINE OF THINKING.
YEAH, I CAN WITHDRAW THE QUESTION.
I GUESS THE INTENT WAS JUST LIKE WE HAD HEARD EARLIER, UM, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THERE IS EXISTING AFFORDABLE RENT, UH, FOR THE OLD RENT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, I LOOKED AT SILVER SPRINGS AND, YOU KNOW, THE THREE BEDROOM GOES FOR AROUND 15 TO 1400.
AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE COMPARABLE.
UM, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THROUGH ZONING, WE DON'T REVIEW AFFORDABILITY ON LOCKED.
TALK ABOUT THE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY, AND IF IT'S THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY, IF GRM, YOU SUITS THIS SITE, THAT SOUNDS, AND AS THE AFFORDABILITY ON LIFE PROGRAM IS A SEPARATE APPLICATION THAT IS REVIEWED THROUGH A SEPARATE PROCESS.
WE NEED TO STEER AWAY FROM THAT.
AND THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS TONIGHT.
AND VERY INTERESTING COMMISSIONERS.
AND I'LL ACTUALLY, I WILL GO UP TO THE VIRTUAL AND THEN I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER SMITH.
IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONER THOMPSON AND YOU NEED TO UNMUTE, THANK YOU.
THANKS FOR THE QUESTIONS ABOUT COMPATIBILITY.
I WAS ALSO LOOKING AT THE BACKUP MATERIALS AND THERE'S A COMMENT THAT G RMU ZONING WOULD PROVIDE FOR A TRANSITION AND THE INTENSITY OF LAND USE.
AND I'M, I'M CURIOUS,
SO WHAT TRANSITION OR IT'S BEING REFERENCED IN THE, IN THE BACKUP MATERIALS, TRANSITIONING THE PERMITTED USES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, RUNNING JAEGER LANE.
THERE'S ALREADY GRC ZONING DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THIS AT THE CORNER.
AND SO THIS WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE MORE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USES TO BE ALONG YOUR LANE AND THE STEP BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT THAN THE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS.
SO IT PROVIDES A TRANSITION IN THE INTENSITY OF USES AS YOU STEPPED TO THE NORTH.
COMMISSIONER SMITH, OR DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, IF NOT, I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER SMITH.
I MEAN, KIND OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I'M GOING TO ASK BOTTOM LINE, THE ADJACENT TRACK TO ZONE GR THE TRACK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS OWNED LR.
THEY'RE NOT WANTING TO REZONE THE ENTIRE TRACK.
THEY WANT TO LEAVE ALL THE LAND ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT LR, WHICH IS LIKE A GOOD BUFFER AND ONLY ZONE THE GR ON THE AREA, THE FRONT'S ON YEAGER AND IS ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING GR, IS THAT CORRECT? SO, I MEAN, IT SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD.
THERE, THERE THEY ARE LEAVING A BUFFER OF LR ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL THERE'S ZONING GR, WHICH IS THE HIGHER INTENSE, ADJACENT TO YEAGER AND ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING GR.
SO I THINK THAT'S THE TRANSITION AND THAT'S THE BUFFER THEY'RE LEAVING ALONE.
THE ZONING ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL ONLY IS INCREASING THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS THROUGH THE GR ZONING ADJACENT TO JAEGER AND ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING GR NO QUESTION.
AND ANY OTHER, ANYBODY ELSE WHO HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING, OR, UM, AND I SEE COMMISSIONER GREENBURG.
SO I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION EITHER.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT HOWEVER, THEY PLAN TO DO IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
UM, THEY'VE THE APPLICANT HAS LITERALLY SAID THEY CAN BUILD THIS PROJECT WITHOUT A ZONING CHANGE, AND THEY ONLY NEED THE ZONING CHANGE FOR A DESIGN ELEMENT.
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TO, I GUESS, MOVE TO DENY THE APPLICANT REQUEST.UM, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK A DESIGN ELEMENT IS A REASON FOR A ZONING CHANGE.
IS THERE A SECOND SECONDED FROM COMMISSIONER DANGLER? THE REASON I'M SECONDING IT ALL IS THERE AS AN ELEMENT WITHIN THE, UH, I'VE TALKED TO, UM, ONE OF THE COUNCIL OFFICES TODAY.
I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES, WHICH ARE SEPARATE FROM THE USE, BUT THE CODE ALLOWS A PROVISION, UM, FOR HEIGHT EXCEPTIONS.
AND IF YOU WANT TO DO A PARAPET, UH, OVER YOUR 60 FEET, THERE IS NOTHING THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT BY CODE.
YOU CAN DO AN ORNAMENTAL ELEMENT.
THE FOUR FEET WOULD, WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT ELEMENT.
UM, AND THAT'S, IF ANYONE NEEDS A CODE REFERENCE IT'S 25, 2 5 3 1, UM, THEY HAVE EXISTING ABILITY WITHIN THE CODE TO ADD A DESIGN ELEMENT WITHOUT HAVING TO GET A ZONING CHANGE.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER, ANYBODY ELSE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN YET FIRST AND IN VIRTUAL LAND OR HERE? OKAY.
I WANT, I WANTED TO SEE IF THE APPLICANT CAN ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE I HAVE, DO THEY KNOW ABOUT THAT? OR IS THAT, IS THERE A REASON THEY'RE NOT, WOULD NOT GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND DO THIS INSTEAD.
SO AS VICTORIA MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE REASON.
THE OTHER REASON IS THAT WE'RE BOTH REASONS COME DOWN TO THE FACT THAT, UH, THERE'S A RISK WITH THAT CODE SECTION AS A, AS AN THAT'S A, THERE'S NOT A, THERE'S NOT A LITERAL DEFINITION OF WHAT AN ORNAMENTAL ELEMENT IS.
SO THERE'S ALWAYS A RISK THAT DSD OR DURING REVIEW DENIES THAT THERE'S ALSO A RISK FOR US THAT IF THE GRID, IF THERE'S OFTEN WATER OR AUSTIN ENERGY OR SOMEONE DURING THE SITE PROCESS REQUIRES THAT THE GRADING CHANGED SLIGHTLY, THAT THERE'S A RISK THAT, THAT OTHER THINGS CAN, CAN MOVE ON THOSE HEIGHTS.
SO THAT, SO WE WERE AWARE OF THAT CODE EXEMPTION, AND WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE THAT, BUT WE CAN'T AT THIS STAGE, THIS STAGE SAY IT'S A GUARANTEE.
SO WE DID NOT WITHDRAW FOR THAT.
AND JUST TO SPEAK BRIEFLY, UM, I BROUGHT A COPY OF THE CITATION AND IT CAN BE CIRCULATED ALONG THE DIOCESE.
UH, I THINK I SENT IT TO THE END, BUT YOU EVEN IN YOUR MATERIALS, DESCRIBE THIS AS A PARAPET.
SO I'M REALLY HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING WHY WE WOULD GIVE YOU THE EXTRA FEET, WHICH WILL THEN ALLOW YOU TO GO TO THE 90.
THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WILL DEVELOP AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
CAUSE IT WILL BE PRETTY LUCRATIVE TO OWN A CONVENIENCE STATION NEXT DOOR TO A, UH, HOUSING ELEMENT.
SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT TOTALLY AGREEING WITH THE ARGUMENT, BUT I DON'T WANT TH THE PARAPETS, NOT THE PARAPET IS THERE'S, THERE'S TWO ELEMENTS HERE.
THERE'S A PARAPET THAT EXCEEDS, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY CLEAR EXCEPTION THAT WE'RE COMPENSATED SIGN.
THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL ORDER MENTOR.
AND I THINK YOU WOULD GET THAT WAIVER OR YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND GET THAT DEFINED.
HOWEVER, WE CAN'T, BECAUSE THAT CAN'T BE A GUARANTEE AT THIS STAGE.
I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER SMITH.
UM, THE CONCERN I'VE GOT, WHAT THE MOTION IS, THE MOTION IS BASING A LAND USE DECISION ON A SITE PLAN THAT MAY OR MAY NOT EVER GET BUILT.
I THINK IF WE'RE A LAND USE COMMISSION, WE NEED TO GO BACK TO LAND USE WHERE YOU'RE LAYER PROPOSING GR ZONING ADJACENT TO GR ZONING, ADJACENT JAEGER LANE IN MAINTAINING THE LRC OR LRC OR O ZONING ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND THAT'S A VERY APPROPRIATE LAND USE REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON BUILDING.
I THINK THE APPROPRIATE LAND USE IS WHAT'S IN THE AREA AND THEY'RE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO A GR ZONING.
UM, SO I'M GONNA MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO CONCUR WITH STAFF AND SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF GOING FROM LRC, GO TO G R M U AS A TOUGH TO DO MOTION.
AND IS THERE A SECOND SECONDED FROM COMMISSIONER BRAY? OKAY.
AND THEN, UM, I, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT'S A LAND USE ISSUE.
AND I ALSO THINK IT'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE AND I HA I AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT STRETCH.
AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THAT THEY HAVE IT'S DITCHES, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU D YOU DON'T, THERE'S NO WAY TO EVEN PUT SIDEWALKS THERE BECAUSE IT'S OPEN BITCHES.
I MEAN, IT'S SUCH A, IT'S A COUNTRY ROAD.
THAT'S HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF HOUSING AS YOU DESCRIBED.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE RESPONSE IS IT HAS TO BE AS THE DEVELOPERS DOING IT, IT HAS TO BE AN EASEMENT.
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RIGHT, RIGHT.NO, I REALIZE THAT, BUT I'M THINKING, I'M THINKING OF THE WHOLE STREET AND THAT I THINK WE MAPPED OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE CATS UP FIRST AND THEN DO THAT.
AND I THINK THERE'S, UM, AND THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR IS G YOU'RE ASKING FOR GR M YOU, WHEREAS THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR IS JUST GR CORRECT.
AND I THINK THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THAT TOO.
SO THAT'S WHY I WILL OPPOSE YOUR MOTION, BUT I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT'S A LAND USE ISSUE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER, POST DEATH.
THIS IS ALSO GOOD ON A CONDITIONAL OVERLAID AS WELL AS A, NOT SO THERE'S ALSO A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY LIMITING WHAT, WHAT WOULD GO INTO THE SPOT.
SO IT WOULD ACTUALLY SEE IN ITS CURRENT LR, UH, ZONING, THERE CAN BE MORE COMMERCIAL USES INVOLVED IN THE AREA.
AND THIS WOULD, IF, IF APPROVED LIMITED TO MORE SPECIFIC, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UH, RESIDENTIAL FOR THE AREA, CORRECT? YES.
BUT YES, I THINK, BUT I HAVEN'T LOOKED OVER ALL THE CASINOS AND I'M NOT ACTUALLY CLEAR.
AND I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S YEAH.
IT'S EMMY VERSUS NO, I'M YOU AND ALL THAT.
I ACTUALLY HAVE TABLES AT HOME WITH WHAT'S ALLOWED IN CS AND GR AND LR.
AND I LOOKED AT THIS AND PART OF THE REASON I WAS TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH LR IS LR IS GEARED MORE TO NEIGHBORHOOD USE.
FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S A RESTAURANT THAT DOESN'T SERVE ALCOHOL, UH, OVER, UH, 60, 50% OF ITS SALES AND ALCOHOL.
DOESN'T INCLUDE COMMERCIAL USES THAT YOU WOULD USUALLY PUT ON A PRIMARY ARTERIAL.
THIS IS A MINOR OR MATERIAL GUYS, TWO LANES.
THEY'RE GONNA, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE EXPECTED ARE GOING TO BE TO ADD A MEDIAN AND, UH, POSSIBLY DO A STOPLIGHT.
I THINK I LOOKED THIS UP ON THE CIP AND I'VE TALKED TO THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON THE BIKE LANES AND SUCH, AND I DON'T THINK THE CAP METRO STUFF, EVEN WITH THE PICKUP AND DELIVERY STUFF IS NOT QUITE AS WELL.
LET'S HOPE THAT GETS THERE, BUT THE LR USES ARE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A MINOR ARTERIAL.
UM, AND THIS IS MORE A MINOR MATERIAL CAUSE OF USE RATHER THAN PAVEMENT WITH.
UM, AND THOSE LR USES DON'T INCLUDE THINGS LIKE PAWN SHOPS AND, UH, TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES.
AND, UH, S A LOT OF USES ARE ALLOWED IN GR THAT I DON'T THINK ARE NECESSARILY AS, UM, APPROPRIATE A LOT OF WHAT IS AN LR, UH, WOULD NOT ONLY IS MORE NEIGHBORHOOD FOCUSED, BUT IT'S, IT'S MORE APPROPRIATELY SIZED.
IT'S LIKE A MEDICAL OFFICES UNDER A CERTAIN SQUARE FEET.
UM, SO I, I WAS MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE LR USES.
UH, BUT THESE, AS YOU DESCRIBED, WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED WITH THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT THEIR SUIT THAT THEY'RE, YOU COULD PUT A CONDITIONAL OVERLAY.
THE ONLY ONE IN LR THAT'S ON THE SITE, UH, THAT'S THAT WASN'T, UH, PROHIBITED HIS SERVICE STATION IS ONE OF THE ONE, IF YOU WANT TO WALK THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE ONE THAT'S ALLOWED IN LR, N G R UH, THE SERVICE STATION.
SO WE COULD DO LR, UH, AND ADD A CEO TO PROHIBIT THE SERVICE STATION USE THAT, UM, YOU NOW ARE PROHIBITING WITH THE SUGGESTED STAFF OVERLAY, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT OVERLAPPED.
I WAS THINKING THERE WERE, UH, GR USES THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE PROHIBITED, UM, THAT I DIDN'T PREPARE A LIST.
SO, UM, MY AIM, YEAH, MY CONCERN IS THE BOUNCE OF THIS TRACK TO THE EAST IS ALL ALREADY ZONED GR IT'S ALREADY THERE.
THAT'S A ONE LIMITED IT'S HALF OF THE HALF.
THAT AREA IS ZONED GR, AND WE'RE WANTING TO REZONE A SMALLER PORTION GR AND LEAVE THE REST OF IT LR WITH THIS CONDITIONAL OVERLAY THAT'S ON THERE NOW.
SO THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT'S MY MOTION, SO, OKAY.
THE MOTION IS, IS, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, GRM, UCL, TRM, UCO, ALL ANYBODY ELSE IN TV LAND, WISHING TO SPEAK.
AND IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
I WANTED TO ASK, UM, IS THERE A TRANSPORTATION STAFF THAT CAN TALK ABOUT THE SIDEWALK? THINGS? I, I, I DON'T KNOW, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THESE KINDS OF CASES, AND I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFICULT THING, CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK BROADER, LIKE YOU HAVE TO DO SURVEYS AND ALL THAT KIND
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OF STUFF, BUT LIKE, WOULD THERE BE ANYTHING ON THIS ROAD? I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION ON THE POINT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT SIDEWALKS BEING PRESENTED AND COULD STAFF CONFIRM IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT LIKE THAT, IF IT'S, IF WE'RE, IF OUR PLAN SIDEWALKS IN THAT AREA, THAT THE CITY'S PLANNING A BUILDING OR THERE'S SOMETHING WOULD PREVENT THAT OUR SIDEWALKS PLANNED, BUT THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT, ONLY THE SIDEWALK THAT IS WITHIN THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES WOULD BE DEVELOPED BY THE APPLICANT DURING OKAY.BUT SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S SIDEWALKS PLANNED, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY I'M ASSUMING THAT THEY'RE PLAYING THAT MUSIC AS POSSIBLE TO BUILD THEM ON THAT, ON YOUR, YOUR LANE.
IT IS POSSIBLE TO BUILD SIDEWALKS ACROSS THE ENTIRETY OF YEAGER LANE.
THE, THE IDEA IS ONCE JAEGER LANE IS EXPANDED AND THEN THE SIDEWALKS WOULD BE BUILT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS IN THE PROCESS OF THE S AND P.
SO ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, THAT SIDEWALKS WILL BE REQUIRED DURING THE SITE PLAN PHASE, AND THEY WILL CONNECT TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS TO THE, OKAY.
AND, BUT, SO THERE ARE, YOU SAID THE ASMP PLANS TO EXPAND THE ROAD ALONG THERE.
DOES THAT INCLUDE LIKE FEASIBILITY ON LIKE, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE DETAILS.
I'M NOT WITH AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION.
BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO BRIDE THEIR PORTION ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THEIR PROPERTY DURING SITE, AND THEY'VE ALREADY STAYED WITH IT.
AND THE REASON I'M DOING THIS IS THERE WERE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP BY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ABOUT LIKE DITCHES PRESENTING SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION.
SO I WANT TO KNOW IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GET MORE DETAIL ON THAT, TO WEIGH IN ON OUR DECISION, BECAUSE IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT TRUE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING YOU ABOUT IT.
UM, IS THAT, UH, OR, OR THERE'S ANY STATS AVAILABLE ON SECRETARY NOT PUTTING IT ALL ON YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD HELP.
I KNOW WHAT THE APPLICANT STATED IN HIS BACKUP.
I ACTUALLY WENT INTO THE FILED SITE PLAN AND THE NOTES WERE THAT CURB AND GUTTER AND SIDEWALK WOULD BE REQUIRED.
SO, UM, THERE MIGHT BE A CONTRADICTION, BUT IT'S A SITE PLAN ISSUE.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION OF MR. THOROUGH OR SIDEWALKS WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THIS TRACK IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
AND WHATEVER HAPPENS ON THE OTHER PARTS, AS WE'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG IT TAKES.
I MEAN, I CAN THINK OF, THEY WILL COME ALONG WITH DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK OF ALL THESE PLACES WHERE IT WAS LIKE PROJECT BY PROJECT, DREAM OF WINNING THE LOTTERY.
AND MY WHOLE DESIRE WAS TO GIVE MORE MONEY FOR SIDEWALKS.
I'M ACTUALLY, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE OKAY.
I, AND WE SHOULD JUST DO A VOTE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN POPPING THIS TO DEATH.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
COMMISSIONER SMITH, COMMISSIONER ACOSTA, CHAIR, BERRERA RAMIREZ AND COMMISSIONER BRAY, ALL THOSE OPPOSED.
VICE-CHAIR KOBASA COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, COMMISSIONER KING COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, COMMISSIONER WOODY.
AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO DENY AND THE MOTION, UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO DENY.
COMMISSIONER DINKLER VICE-CHAIR KOBASA COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, COMMISSIONER THOMPSON, COMMISSIONER KING COMMISSIONER WOODY, ALL THOSE OPPOSED COMMISSIONER SMITH COMMISSIONER OR CLOSE TO COMMISSIONER BRAY.
THANK YOU FOR A REALLY INTERESTING AND ROBUST DISCUSSION.
AND MAY I CLARIFY, UH, UH, VICE CHAIR, THE VICE CHAIR.
BERRERA MIRRORS HIS VOTE ON THIS.
DID SHE, DID SHE VOTE SHARE, OH, I'M SORRY.
I WAS GONNA, I WAS ABSTAINING.
THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT IN YOUR CAPACITY AS SECRETARY.
CAUSE I'M TRYING TO TAKE NOTES TO THE TALLY.
IT WAS COMMISSIONERS, UM, TO DENY DANCLER KOBASA GREENBURG KING THOMPSON AND WOODY.
AND THEN, UM, ABSTENTION IS CHAIR BERBER RAMIREZ, AND OPPOSED IS SMITH BRAY AND ACOSTA.
AND ONCE WHEN WE VOTE AGAINST HOUSING YES.
[C.1. Briefing on Austin Demographics & Housing Blueprint Progress to Date.]
AND NOW WE ARE ON TO, AND NOW WE SHOULD REALLY GIVE OUR A ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO, AND I HAD, UM, TO, UH, EVERYBODY FOR[01:15:01]
A VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION.AND THEN ALSO NEXT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR NEW CITY DEMOGRAPHER.
AND I ASKED, UH, THE CITY DEMOGRAPHER LAILA, VALENCIA TO JUST DO HER PRESENTATION.
AND WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS ON THAT BECAUSE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ERICA LEEK DO HER PRESENTATION AND WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A, THE WAY IT WAS DONE AT CITY COUNCIL DURING THEIR BRIEFING.
AND THEY EACH DO HAVE THEIR OWN PRESENTATION.
SO FIRST, UM, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
FOR, WE ARE SO SORRY, BUT THIS GIVES YOU A LOT MORE TIME AND I AM SO EXCITED.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, UM, THANK YOU.
AND ESPECIALLY THANK YOU FOR BEING A D FOR STEPPING UP AND BEING THE CITY DEMOGRAPHER DURING, RIGHT.
WELL, DURING COVID AND ALSO WHEN THE BUCKET LOAD OF INFORMATION, YOU'RE GOING TO BE, YOU'RE DRINKING FROM THE FIRE HOSE, BUT THE CENSUS DATA AND REDISTRICTING FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
SO YOU HAVE A HUGE, IMPORTANT JOB THAT I THINK MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW COMPLEX IT IS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INVITING THE, UM, TONIGHT.
AND, UM, THE WAY THAT WE HAVE SET UP THE PRESENTATION, I THINK WILL WORK WELL BECAUSE, UM, I SORT OF GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, MY SET OF SLIDES AND THEN ERICA HAS A SECTION, UM, TOWARDS THE END, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A PAUSE IN THE MIDDLE AND, YOU KNOW, UM, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THEN WE KNOW THAT YOU SENT US SOME QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WE HAVEN'T, UH, DIRECTLY ADDRESSED IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THOSE IN, IN THE FORM OF A MEMO OR EVEN AS, AS WE'RE DISCUSSING, UM, WITH YOU, RIGHT.
SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
I KNOW YOU YOU'VE GOT A FULL AGENDA AND, UM, IF WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO THE AREAS THAT WE'LL BE COVERING INCLUDE, UM, THE POPULATION GROWTH WE'RE SEEING IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, UM, IT'S UNIQUE DIVERSITY, IT'S DIVERSITY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WE'RE SEEING IN OTHER AREAS.
I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON SOME AREAS OF GROWTH THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THE, AND THE METRO REGION.
AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE SOME OF THE HOUSING, UM, RELATED TOPICS IN THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDES.
AND JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR DATA SET THAT I'M GOING TO BE SHARING FINDINGS WITH YOU FROM OUR, THE, UH, PUBLIC LAW, 94, 1 71 FILE.
THIS IS THE REDISTRICTING FILE.
AND SO IT DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF INFORMATION.
IT BASICALLY IS MEANT TO SERVE IN THE REDRAWING OF BOUNDARIES FOR DISTRICTS, FROM STATE LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS DOWN TO AND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS DOWN TO, UM, CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS AND THE SCHOOL BOARD OF TRUSTEE DISTRICTS.
BUT THE DATA THAT IT INCLUDES, UM, LOOK AT TOTAL POPULATION, TOTAL HOUSING UNITS, UH, THE POPULATION BY RACE AND ETHNICITY, THE VOTING AGE POPULATION ARE THOSE 18 AND OLDER ALSO BY RACE AND ETHNICITY, AND THEN POPULATION IN GROUP QUARTERS OR THE POPULATION THAT RESIDES IN, UM, GROUP SETTINGS SUCH AS COLLEGE DORMITORIES OR NURSING HOMES.
UH, AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL, I'LL GET STARTED WITH THE PRESENTATION.
SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WHAT WE FOCUS ON ARE THE MAIN FINDINGS FROM THE, FROM THESE DATA, RIGHT? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT LOCAL COMMUNITIES GET TO SEE THEIR OFFICIAL 20, 20 CENSUS COUNT.
AND SO WHAT WE SEE FOR AUSTIN IS A CONTINUATION OF A TREND OF VERY LONG AND SUSTAINED, UH, STRONG GROWTH.
AND AUSTIN HAS BEEN, UH, ABOUT DOUBLING ITS POPULATION EVERY 20 TO 25 YEARS.
AND SO FOR INSTANCE HERE, IF YOU FOCUS ON 1970, WHERE AT ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILLION POPULATION BETWEEN 1990 AND 2000, WE SURPASS THAT HALF A MILLION MARK.
AND THEN 20 YEARS LATER HERE WE ARE TODAY JUST SHY OF THE 1 MILLION MARKET, 961,855 PEOPLE.
AND SO AUSTIN REMAINS THE 11TH LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY, BUT IT'S REALLY RIVALING THE GROWTH OF SOME OF THE NATION'S LARGEST CITIES, UH, BETWEEN 2010 AND 2020 20, THE CITY OF AUSTIN ADDED OVER 171,000 PEOPLE GROWING AT A RATE OF ABOUT 21.7%, ONLY THREE OTHER CITIES ADDED MORE PEOPLE THAN THE CITY OF AUSTIN THIS LAST DECADE.
AND THOSE WERE NEW YORK, HOUSTON AND FORT WORTH.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE REALLY, TRULY LARGE, VERY WELL ESTABLISHED COSMOPOLITAN AREAS THAT ARE AMONG THE ONLY CITIES THAT ADDED MORE PEOPLE THAN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
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AND HERE WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE REGIONAL GROWTH IN THE AUSTIN METRO AREA.SO THIS IS LOOKING AT THE FIVE REGION, INCLUDING BASTROP CALDWELL HAYES, TRAVIS AND WILLIAMSON, AND AMONG METROPOLITAN AREAS OF, OF POPULATIONS OVER 1 MILLION, THE AUSTIN METRO AREA GROUP, THE FASTEST, AND WAS THE FASTEST GROWING METRO AREA EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
UM, WELL, AUSTIN GREW AT A RATE OF ABOUT 21.7%.
THE METRO AREA GREW EVEN FASTER AT 33%, AND WE ADDED OVER HALF A MILLION PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE DECADE.
AUSTIN CONTRIBUTED ABOUT 30% OF THAT TOTAL GROWTH IN THE, IN THE METRO AREA IN THE LAST DECADE.
AND I GUESS WHAT I, WHAT I WANT TO ADD IS THAT, UM, WITH HAYES COUNTY BEING THE THIRD FASTEST IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY, BEING THE 11 FASTEST GROWING COUNTIES IN THE COUNTRY, IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT OUR REGION IS GROWING AND IT'S GROWING VERY RAPIDLY.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT SURROUNDING CITIES, WE SEE A SIMILAR PATTERN.
SO, UM, FOR AS FAST AS AUSTIN IS GROWING, THE SURROUNDING CITIES ARE GROWING EVEN FASTER.
AND A NUMBER OF CENTRAL TEXAS CITIES HAVE IN THE PAST TAKEN THAT NUMBER ONE SLOT OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE COUNTRY.
AND THAT INCLUDES LEANDER AND CEDAR PARK IN THE LAST, UH, COUPLE OF YEARS OF THIS LAST DECADE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE OTHER VERY FAST GROWING CITIES LIKE MAYNOR AND BUDA AND HUDDLE.
AND ONE THING THAT I WANT TO MENTION HERE THOUGH, IS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT EVEN THOUGH AUSTIN'S SHARE OF THE TOTAL GROWTH OF THE REGION IS, UM, UH, LESS TODAY THAN, THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.
AND THAT THE SURROUNDING AREAS ARE GROWING MUCH FASTER THAN THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS GROWING.
THE BULK OF THE GROWTH STILL TAKES PLACE HERE IN THE CITY AND ORIGINATES HERE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON.
SO IF YOU TAKE ITS LARGEST NEIGHBOR TO THE NORTH ROUND ROCK, THEY ADDED ABOUT A 10TH OF THE GROWTH, UH, THAT AUSTIN ADDED THIS LAST DECADE.
AND EVEN THAT REALLY LARGE INCREASE THAT WE SEE IN THE CITY OF LEANDER IS ONLY ABOUT TWO TENTHS OF THE GROWTH THAT WE SEE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
SO THE BULK OF THE GROWTH IS STILL ORIGINATING WITHIN OUR CITY.
AND SO AS POPULATION HAS GROWN IN THE CITY, SO HAS THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS IN 2010, THERE WERE OVER, UH, OR THERE WERE 444,426 HOUSING UNITS.
AND THESE ARE JUST UNITS, RIGHT, WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL CHARACTERISTICS ABOUT THEM, EXCEPT WHETHER THEY'RE OCCUPIED OR VACANT.
UM, AND THIS NUMBER EXPANDED BY OVER 90,000, UH, SINCE 2010.
AND IT GREW AT A RATE OF ABOUT 25 AND A HALF PERCENT.
AND SO EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBER OF HOUSING UNITS IS, UM, LARGER THAN IT HAS BEEN IN DECADES PAST THE RATE OF GROWTH OF PRODUCTION HAS SLOWED DOWN SOME, UM, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER, AGAIN, THESE DATA DON'T INCLUDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE HOUSING UNITS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE CHARACTERISTICS LIKE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS OR HOUSING TYPE AND JUST OTHER INFORMATION THAT COULD REALLY HELP FURTHER INFORM HOW WELL THE HOUSING STOCK IS MATCHING THE HOUSING NEEDS OF THE POPULATION.
AND SO NOW WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT POPULATION ON THAT NEXT SLIDE WE SEE SORT OF THE MAKEUP OF, UM, THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S DEMOGRAPHICS.
UM, AND SO THIS IS A PRETTY NUMBERS HEAVY TABLE, BUT I'M GOING TO GUIDE YOU THROUGH IT.
AND FIRST OF ALL, WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT IS THAT THE POPULATION IN OUR CITY IT'S GROWTH EXTENDED ACROSS ALL RACE, ETHNICITY GROUPS.
SO ALL RACE ETHNICITIES, UH, GROUPS GREW THIS DECADE.
UM, AND THEN ANOTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION TO ADD SOME CONTEXT TO THESE DATA IS THAT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE STATE OF TEXAS POPULATION GROWTH WAS REALLY DRIVEN BY POPULATIONS OF COLOR IN TEXAS OVER 95% OF THE TOTAL POPULATION GROWTH.
THIS LAST DECADE CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO POPULATIONS OF COLOR, BUT IN AUSTIN WE SEE A BIT OF A UNIQUE PATTERN OF DIVERSITY.
AND SO TO GET STARTED ON THIS TABLE, WHAT I, WHAT I'M GOING TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER.
UM, SO THIS HERE WILL HELP US TO SEE WHO WAS DRIVING GROWTH IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
AND SO WE SEE HERE THAT NON-HISPANIC WHITES ARE TRULY DRIVING GROWTH IN THE CITY.
THEY CONTRIBUTED THE LARGEST SHARE TO THE TOTAL GROWTH AT ABOUT ALMOST 40% OF A TOTAL GROWTH THIS LAST DECADE, EXPANDING BY OVER 67,000 TO A TOTAL POPULATION OF 150, 2,994 PERSONS.
AND THIS IS AT A TIME WHEN THE COUNTRY
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EXPERIENCED A DECLINE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 230 YEARS.AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO IDENTIFIED AS NON-HISPANIC WHITE.
SO SEEING SUCH A STRONG GROWTH AMONG THIS COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS TRULY UNIQUE.
AND NOW WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT, UM, TO THE NEXT COLUMN IN THIS COLUMN.
SORRY, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING BACK TO THAT.
SO JUST THE PERCENT CHANGE COLUMN.
THIS WILL LET US SEE THE FASTEST GROWING GROUPS IN THE CITY.
AND SO THE FASTEST GROWING RACE, ETHNICITY GROUPS, UM, THE FIRST ONE IS THE GROUP THAT'S LOOKED AT THE OPTIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE CENSUS BUREAU.
AND THEY SAID NONE OF THESE RACES REPRESENT ME.
AND SO THEY WROTE IN THEIR OWN SELF IDENTIFICATION.
AND SO THIS IS THE SOME OTHER RACE GROUP.
UM, THIS GROUP GREW BY OVER 3000 IN THE LAST DECADE AND NEARLY QUADRUPLED IN SIZE BETWEEN 2010 AND 2020.
ANOTHER FAST GROWING GROUP WAS THE GROUP THAT, UM, THE MULTI-RACIAL GROUP WHERE THE GROUP THAT CHECKED OFF OR, UH, OR, UM, IT FILLED IN MULTIPLE RACE OPTIONS, BOTH OF THESE GROUPS, UM, THERE WERE SOME CHANGES IN THE WAY THAT THE CENSUS BUREAU WAS CODING SOME OF THE RACE, ETHNICITY RESPONSES THAT COULD HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO, TO THE RATE OF GROWTH IN THESE GROUPS.
BUT THESE WERE ALREADY, UM, PRETTY RAPIDLY GROWING GROUPS, EVEN THE DECADE BEFORE ANOTHER VERY FAST GROWING GROUP.
UH, AND IN FACT, THIS, THE FASTEST SINGLE RACE GROUP WAS THE ASIAN POPULATION, UH, OVER ONE IN FIVE PEOPLE, ADD IT TO THE AUSTIN POPULATION.
THIS LAST DECADE WERE OF ASIAN DESCENT AND THE ASIAN POPULATION CONTRIBUTED OVER 21% OF THAT TOTAL, UH, POPULATION GROWTH.
HISPANICS MADE UP ABOUT 20% OF THE TOTAL GROWTH IN THIS CITY, THIS LAST DECADE.
AND THIS COMPARES WITH ABOUT 50% AT THE NATIONAL AND AT THE STATE LEVEL AND HISPANICS, UH, RESIDENTS GREW BY ABOUT 34,000 TO A TOTAL POPULATION OF 300, 12,448 PERSONS.
THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN POPULATION ALSO GREW THIS DECADE, BUT AT A SLOWER RATE, UM, BLACK RESIDENTS GREW BY 5,200 INDIVIDUALS TO A TOTAL POPULATION OF 66,002 PERSONS.
AND THIS IS IN THE CONTEXT OF VERY STRONG MIGRATION BY AFRICAN-AMERICANS FROM CITIES AND NORTHERN PARTS OF THE COUNTRY TO CITIES IN THE SOUTH, INCLUDING DALLAS AND HOUSTON.
AND SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU JUST A QUICK COMPARISON.
SIMILARLY, SIZED FORT WORTH ADDED NEARLY 40,000 AFRICAN AMERICANS TO OUR 5,000 THAT WE ADDED THIS DECADE AND THEY ADDED OVER 67,000 HISPANICS COMPARED TO OUR ABOUTS 34,000 HISPANICS THAT WE HAD AT THIS DECADE.
AND SO THIS HERE IS SORT OF OUR VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF OUR CITY'S DIVERSITY AND ALTHOUGH NEW RACE OR ETHNICITY GROUP MAKES UP A MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION, THE NON-HISPANIC WHITE POPULATION CONTINUES TO MAKE UP THE LARGEST SHARE, UH, AT ABOUT 47%, WHICH IS A SLIGHT DROP FROM 49% IN 2010, BUT HISPANIC POPULATION ALSO SAW A DECREASE IN ITS SHARE FROM 2010.
UH, IT WAS ABOUT A THREE PERCENTAGE POINT DROP TO ABOUT 32 AND A HALF PERCENT IN 2020.
THE ASIAN POPULATION IS NOW THE THIRD LARGEST RACE ETHNICITY GROUP IN THE CITY, AND THEY MAKE UP NEARLY 9% OF THE TOTAL POPULATION UP FROM ABOUT 6% IN 2010.
UH, THE BLACK POPULATION NOW MAKES UP 7% OF THE TOTAL POPULATION.
AND THIS IS A ONE PERCENTAGE POINT LOWER THAN AT THE START OF THE DECADE.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THESE REDISTRICTING DATA ALSO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON, UM, THE POPULATION 18, 18, AND OLDER.
AND SO IF WE TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THE TOTAL POPULATION, WE'RE ALSO ABLE, ABLE TO DERIVE THE CHILD POPULATION.
AND SO WHAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU HERE ARE THOSE.
AND SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS, UM, THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, ABOUT 775,000 ADULTS, AND WE HAVE ABOUT 186,000 CHILDREN.
THE ADULT POPULATION, HOWEVER, IS, IS A LITTLE LESS DIVERSE IN THE OVERALL POPULATION AND A LITTLE LESS DIVERSE THAN IT WAS A DECADE AGO.
UM, SO, WELL, I MENTIONED TO YOU THAT NO, UM, RACE ETHNICITY GROUP HOLDS THE MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION IN THE OVERALL CITY POPULATION AMONG THOSE 18 AND OLDER, JUST OVER 50% IDENTIFY AS NON-HISPANIC WHITE.
AND THIS COMPARES TO 42 AND A HALF PERCENT IN 2010.
SO THE DIVERSITY HAS ACTUALLY GONE DOWN AMONGST, UH, ADULTS IN AUSTIN.
THE CHILD POPULATION IS MUCH MORE DIVERSE WITH ABOUT 67%.
IDENTIFYING IS NONWHITE, UH, AND THE LATINO POPULATION, UM, MAKING UP THE LARGEST SHARE OF ABOUT 44% OF CHILDREN.
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THAT GROWTH IN THE CHILD POPULATION WAS DRIVEN LARGELY BY GROWTH AMONG ASIAN NON-HISPANIC WHITE AND MULTI-RACIAL CHILDREN.AND THERE WAS AN ACTUAL DECLINE IN THE NUMBER OF LATINO AND BLACK CHILDREN BETWEEN 2010 AND 2020.
AND AS DEMOGRAPHERS, WE TYPICALLY LOOK AT THE CHILD POPULATION TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF AN AREA MAY LOOK LIKE.
OF COURSE, THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER FACTORS THAT GO INTO PLAY THERE, BUT IN THIS CASE, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS FEWER AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND HISPANIC CHILDREN AND PERHAPS FEWER LATINO AND BLACK ADULTS IN AUSTIN'S FUTURE.
AND SO HERE NOW WE'LL TRANSITION INTO SORT OF LOOKING AT PARTS OF THE CITY, UM, THAT EXPERIENCED GROWTH ON THIS NEXT SLIDE.
WHAT I'M SHARING WITH YOU ARE TWO MAPS, AND THESE ARE JUST THE, THE CENSUS TRACKS THAT FALL WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, OR, YOU KNOW, ARE EITHER FULLY OR PARTIALLY CONTAINED.
UM, AND SO TH THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS THE POPULATION DENSITY MAP POPULATION IN THE CITY AS A WHOLE HAS INCREASED FROM ABOUT 2,600 PERSONS PER SQUARE MILE TO OVER 3000 PERSONS PER SQUARE MILE IN 2020.
AND THE MOST DENSELY POPULATED AREAS OF THE CITY ARE SHOWN HERE IN INCREASINGLY, UM, DARKER ORANGE OR RED COLORS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE MOST DENSELY POPULATED AREAS ARE AROUND THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AND THE DOWNTOWN AREAS, UM, JUST NORTH OF THE RIVER, BUT ALSO ON THE LONG, UH, THE CENTRAL, UM, THE
JOHN'S CENTRAL EAST, AUSTIN, RIVERSIDE, AND THEN VANTA ONION CREEK, THE MAP ON THE RIGHT HERE, IT LOOKS AT POPULATION CHANGE.
AND SO THIS IS, UM, LOOKING AT THE 2020 POPULATION SUBTRACTING FROM THE 2010 POPULATION TO SEE WHERE WE GREW OR WHERE WE SAW DECLINE GROWTH IS SHOWN HERE IN AREAS OF WHITE AND THEN MORE GROWTH THAN IN AREAS OF BLUE.
AND THEN THE RED AND PEAK AREAS SHOW POPULATION DECLINE.
AND WHAT WE CAN SEE HERE IS THAT THERE ARE, FOR THE MOST PART, MOST AREAS OF THE CITY SAW POPULATION GROWTH.
UH, BUT IN PARTICULAR, WE SAW, UM, PRETTY HIGH GROWTH IN AREAS AROUND, UM, MUELLER DEVELOPMENT, THE DOMAIN WEST CAMPUS, AND NORTHWEST AUSTIN.
UM, AND THEN WE SEE SOME AREAS OF DECLINE MOST MARKEDLY IN THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE CITY WHERE THE, UM, FLOOD MITIGATION AREA OF BUYOUT TOOK PLACE AND IN LOWERING AND CREEK, BUT THEN ALSO AROUND, UM, DOVE SPRINGS AND THEN FARTHER NORTH, UM, IN AREAS AROUND NORTH LAMAR AND ST JOHN'S.
AND THEN ALSO THE, THE TRACK THAT HOUSES, THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS ALSO PAUL SAW POPULATION DECLINE.
AND THEN THIS TAKES A LOOK AT A SIMILAR MAP AS THE ONE THAT I JUST SHOWED YOU ON POPULATION CHANGE, BUT IT LOOKS AT THE ENTIRE METROPOLITAN AREA.
AND SO WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS MAP, UH, AT FIRST GLANCE, YOU KNOW, THE MAP GIVES AN IMPRESSION OF SPRAWL.
AND, UM, PART OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE NATURE OF THESE GEOGRAPHIES THAT I'M SHOWING YOU, THESE ARE CENSUS TRACKS, AND THEY HAVE POPULATION THRESHOLDS OF IDEALLY ABOUT 4,000 PEOPLE.
AND SO, UM, WHEN YOU GET TO LESSER, DENSELY POPULATED AREAS AND MORE RURAL PARTS OF, OF THE AREA, THE, THE LAND AREA OF THE CENSUS TRACK BECOMES LARGER.
AND SO YOU SEE THESE LARGE, YOU KNOW, TRACKS IN BLUE.
AND SO PART OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THAT, BUT, BUT THE OTHER PART IS ALSO SOME SPRAWL.
WE ARE DEFINITELY SEEING A CONTINUATION OF, YOU KNOW, A DECADES LONG TREND, NOT JUST HERE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, BUT ALSO IN OTHER URBAN CENTERS AROUND THE STATE.
UM, BUT WHAT I WANT TO NOTE TO YOU IS THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL, UH, PERIMETER AND OUTLYING TRACKS FOR THE CITY, AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE ENCOURAGED HIGHER DENSITY GROWTH, THE GROWTH, THE POPULATION GROWTH IS SIMILAR IN A LOT OF THOSE AREAS.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AREA AROUND THE DOMAIN, ON THE MUELLER DEVELOPMENT, WE SEE SIMILAR PATTERNS OF GROWTH AS WE ARE SEEING IN THE OUTLINE AREAS OF THE CITY.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE THAT I HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU.
SO IF WE WANT TO TAKE SOME TIME NOW TO, UM, TAKE SOME QUESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO, UM, INTO THE, THE HOUSING DISCUSSION AS WELL.
I ALREADY SEE A HAND ON THE DYESS AND THEN, UM, I'LL ALSO GO TO PEOPLE OUT IN THE FIELD.
SO COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.
SO CENSUS FOR 2020 WAS TAKEN IN APRIL.
I CAN'T REMEMBER WHETHER IT'S THE FIRST OR THE 15TH.
UM, BUT IN MY HOUSEHOLD, OUR POPULATION DOUBLED AS A RESULT OF COVID
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BECAUSE ONE ADULT CHILD WAS LIVING IN NEW YORK CITY AND ANOTHER WAS SENT HOME FROM COLLEGE.AND THE OTHER THING YOU POINTED OUT WAS THAT THERE WAS A DROP IN POPULATION ON THE CENSUS TRACK.
THAT INCLUDES THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS LIKELY BECAUSE THE DORMITORIES WERE FOR THE MOST PART SHUT IN APRIL, 2020.
SO TO WHAT EXTENT DO YOU THINK SINCE ITS RESULTS WERE IMPACTED BY COVID? SO CENSUS RESULTS THEMSELVES, UM, THAT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT'S STILL BEING EXPLORED AND EXAMINED BY LOTS OF GROUPS AROUND THE COUNTRY.
AND, UH, I KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING OUR, OUR SHARE OF INVESTIGATING AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE COULD BE AREAS OF UNDERCOUNT AND EVEN WITHOUT COVID, UM, IN PAST CENSUSES, THERE, THERE ARE UNDER COUNTS, UH, AND THERE ALSO OVER COUNTS.
UM, TYPICALLY THE NON-HISPANIC WHITE POPULATION IS TYPICALLY OVER COUNTED IN PARTICULAR COLLEGE STUDENTS HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO BE OVER COUNTED ON HISPANIC, WHITE COLLEGE STUDENTS IN PARTICULAR.
AND PART OF THE REASON IS FOR SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED, SO CENSUS DATE WAS APRIL 1ST, UM, APRIL 15, I THINK YOU'RE THINKING OF TAX DATE, BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE EITHER COUNTING OUR PEOPLE ARE COUNTING OUR MONEY, RIGHT.
BUT, UM, DURING THAT TIME, UH, WE ACTUALLY EXTENDED THE PERIOD OF TIME FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE CENSUS.
AND BECAUSE OF, OF THE PANDEMIC, A NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, MITIGATING, UM, EFFORTS WERE PUT IN PLACE TO REALLY TRY TO ENSURE AN ACCURATE COUNT AND IN THE CITY OF BOSTON AND IN TRAVIS COUNTY, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ACTUALLY PARTNERED TOGETHER AND INVESTED TO ENSURE A GOOD COUNT FOR OUR AREA.
WE HAD A SELF RESPONSE RATE OF ABOUT 67.3%, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST COMBINATIONS OF, OF LARGE CITY AND LARGE COUNTY AROUND THE STATE.
AND SO I THINK WE DID A FAIRLY GOOD EFFORT IN GETTING THAT SELF RESPONSE RATE TO, TO A STRONG, UM, TO A STRONG PERCENTAGE.
IT WAS HIGHER THAN IT WAS IN 2010.
NOW, WERE THERE CHALLENGES IN PARTICULAR AREAS? ABSOLUTELY.
AND, UM, DO WE THINK THAT WE MAY BE SEEING SOME POSSIBLE UNDERCOUNT IT'S POSSIBLE? I'LL TELL YOU, I'M NOT VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE POPULATION DECLINE IN THE UNIVERSITY AREA, BECAUSE THAT IS COUNTED IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
IT'S NOT COUNTED, UM, THROUGH, THROUGH CENSUSES THAT ARE DELIVERED TO STUDENTS.
IT'S ACTUALLY COUNTED BY THE ADMINISTRATORS THAT ARE HOUSED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS.
AND SO THEY HAVE A SEPARATE GROUP QUARTERS EFFORT THAT THEY USE TO COUNT, UH, COLLEGE DORMITORIES.
NOW, WAS THERE CONFUSION AMONGST PARENTS AND STUDENTS ABOUT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE COUNTED? ABSOLUTELY.
AND SO THE AREAS AROUND RIVERSIDE, WHERE THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, HIGHER CONCENTRATIONS OF STUDENT OFF CAMPUS HOUSING ARE AREAS THAT WE ARE EXPLORING TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE COULD POSSIBLY BE UNDERCOUNTS THERE, BECAUSE WE, UH, HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT THESE STUDENTS MAY HAVE BEEN COUNTED ELSEWHERE.
AND THERE WERE NO ADMINISTRATORS THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE DATA.
ANOTHER AREA OF CONCERN FOR ME IS SEEING THOSE DROPS IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN AND LATINO CHILDREN.
I THINK A LOT OF TIMES, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUES THAT OUR CITY IS FACING AND PARTICULARLY BEING FACED DISPROPORTIONATELY BY FAMILIES OF COLOR.
SO WE SEE THOSE NUMBERS AND WE'RE LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.
AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.
AND THAT IT'S NOT THAT THERE WAS AN UNDERCOUNT BECAUSE CHILDREN OF COLOR ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE UNDERCOUNTED THAN OTHER POPULATIONS.
SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
UM, IT, YOU KNOW, AND SO WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO EXPLORE OTHER CENSUS PRODUCTS THAT ARE RELEASED BY THE CENSUS BUREAU THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY TRANSPARENT.
THEY LET US KNOW WHEN THERE IS AN UNDERCOUNT AND THEN WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND LOOKING AT SCHOOL ENROLLMENT DATA, LOOKING AT HOUSING UNIT COUNTS, UH, USING, YOU KNOW, OUR OWN INTERNAL DATA AS WELL AS DATA FROM OTHER PARTNERS.
SO IT'S DEFINITELY A QUESTION THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRY TO EXPLORE, TO GET A GOOD ANSWER TO THANK YOU.
AND, UM, I'LL GO QUESTION FROM THE, FROM YOU ALL AND TV LAND, AND THEN I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER ACOSTA CAUSE HE HAS HIS HAND UP.
UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPEAKING TO US, I'VE BEEN REALLY EXCITED FOR YOU TO COME TALK WITH US.
UH, I'M SPEAKING OF OUR OWN INTERNAL DATA, DO YOU KNOW IF THE CITY KEEPS ITS OWN POPULATION ESTIMATES FROM YEAR TO YEAR? AND SO I'M CURIOUS HOW CLOSE WAS THE CITY'S ESTIMATE FOR 2020 COMPARED TO THE 2020 COUNT, UH, WHERE WE UNDER OVER
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AND THEN JUST, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET, IF WE DO KEEP OUR OWN ESTIMATE, COULD YOU GIVE A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE USING TO TRACK OUR ESTIMATE? SURE.SO THIS LAST YEAR, UM, THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS, SO WE HAVE PROJECTIONS, NOT ESTIMATES.
UM, AND SO WE SORT OF PROJECT OUT FROM THE LAST, UM, DECENNIAL CENSUS.
AND SO IT'S GOT THAT 2010 BASE AND THIS LAST YEAR, UM, THE, UM, HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT PREPARED THOSE PROJECTIONS, THOSE PROJECTIONS WERE MUCH HIGHER FOR 2020 THAN, UM, THE CENSUS COUNT.
THE, UM, CENSUS BUREAU ALSO PRODUCES POPULATION ESTIMATES AND THEIR ESTIMATES WERE MUCH HIGHER FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN THAN THE ACTUAL 2020 CENSUS COUNT.
UM, IF WE LOOK AT THEIR ESTIMATES AND COMPARE THAT 20, 20, 20 CENSUS COUNT, IT TAKES US BACK TO 2018.
UM, WHEN WE ARE AT THAT POPULATION SIZE THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN US FOR 2020 CENSUS.
SO THOSE ARE ESTIMATES, RIGHT? AND IN PLACES THAT ARE GROWING AS FAST AS THE CITY OF AUSTIN, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, ARE THE HARDEST TO ESTIMATE ARE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE, RIGHT? WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SENSE OF THE BIRTH RATES AND THE MORTALITY RATES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE EVEN DURING COVID.
WE, WE HAD A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THOSE AREAS, BUT WHAT WE DON'T FULLY HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON IS THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE.
AND SO MY GRACIAN WAS VERY HARD TO ESTIMATE IN THOSE ESTIMATES.
AND SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE MAY HAVE OVERESTIMATED THE GROWTH, UH, FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, NOT JUST IN OUR OWN ESTIMATES, BUT ALSO OUR PROJECTIONS, BUT ALSO IN THE CITY, IN THE CENSUS BUREAU'S ESTIMATES.
AND SO THE BEST THING THAT WE CAN DO TO SORT OF GROUND TRUTH, OUR, UM, THE CENSUS COUNT IS TO CHECK THINGS LIKE, UM, THE HOUSING UNIT STOCK THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, LOOKING AT PERMITS, LOOKING AT, UM, OCCUPANT, IS IT, UM, CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO TO TRY TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE HOUSING UNIT COUNT, RIGHT? CAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE CENSUS BUREAU STARTS LOOKING AT HOUSEHOLDS AND, AND HOUSE, UH, HOUSING UNITS AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, SORT OF MOVING FORWARD TO THE ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL POPULATION COUNTS.
UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST PRESENTED TO THE DOWNTOWN ALLIANCE, UM, THEY'RE LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND EXPLORE ALONG WITH THE CITY WAYS TO, UM, TO QUESTION AND APPEAL THAT COUNT.
THEY REALLY FEEL LIKE THERE ARE MORE HOUSING UNITS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA ALONE.
AND SO WE WILL BE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO THE CENSUS BUREAU AND HOW THAT COMPARES TO WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR RECORDS TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOW FAR OFF THESE THINGS ARE.
AND, UM, QUESTIONS FROM TV LAND.
AND IF YOU DON'T RAISE YOUR HAND, THEN I WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER DINKLER YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP AND THEN I'LL GO TO ERR, AND THEN I'LL LOOK THIS WAY, THEN I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER BRAY OR COMMISSIONER BRAY, OR DID YOU GO WELL, MINE'S KIND OF RELATED TO WHAT HE WAS JUST ASKING.
UM, UH, DID THIS S THIS DO LIKE YEAR TO YEAR, LIKE I KNOW, I KNOW THEY DO LIKE INTEREST SENSES, UH, LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOT TRYING TO DO EVERY ONE, BUT DOING PARTIAL.
IS THAT A SEPARATE, LIKE A SEPARATE SERVICES? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL LOOK AT OR IF IT WAS THAT LIKE, CAN THAT BE USED FOR LIKE THE ESTIMATING, WHAT WAS THERE AN UNDER UNDERESTIMATE OR OVERESTIMATE? SO THE CENSUS BUREAU.
SO THE CENSUS BUREAU HAS A NUMBER OF METHODS THAT THEY USE.
SO FOR INSTANCE, UM, THE, THE PRODUCT THAT YOU MAY BE THINKING ABOUT IS THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY, THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY IS DONE ON A CONTINUAL BASIS, AND THEY PRODUCE ANNUAL ESTIMATES AND A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD ESTIMATES OR ALL SORTS OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, FROM EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT, HEALTH INSURANCE, POVERTY RATES, ALL SORTS OF CHARACTERISTICS.
UM, THEY ALSO HAVE A POPULATION ESTIMATES PROGRAM AND EVERY YEAR THEY RELEASE THESE POPULATION ESTIMATES.
AND SO EVEN BEFORE THESE REDISTRICTING DATA CAME OUT WHERE WE GOT THE OFFICIAL COUNT FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WE HAD ALREADY RECEIVED THE POPULATION ESTIMATES EARLIER IN MAY.
AND SO WE COMPARED THOSE TO THOSE OTHER ESTIMATES.
AND SO THOSE ARE ALL OF THE, THOSE ARE ALL OF THE FACTORS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, RIGHT? AND WE ALSO WORK WITH REGIONAL PARTNERS.
SO FOR INSTANCE, CAMPO HAS THEIR OWN SET OF PROJECTIONS THAT THEY PUT TOGETHER.
AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO EXPLORE, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR OFF ARE, ARE THOSE MODELS FROM WHAT WE GOT AS THE, FOR THE OFFICIAL 20, 20 CENSUS COUNT, WE'LL BE DOING THAT FOR OUR OWN PRODUCTS AS WELL FOR OUR PROJECTIONS AND FOR, UM, LOOKING AT
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SORT OF THE GROWTH TREND LINES THAT WE WERE APPLYING AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, WHERE COULD THOSE HAVE GONE OFF? WE ALSO KNOW THAT TEXAS DEMOGRAPHIC CENTER PRODUCES POPULATION ESTIMATES.SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS TO REALLY TRY TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR OFF THESE FIGURES ARE AND COMMISSIONER BANKLER.
AND I KIND OF WANT TO TIE MY QUESTION BACK TO OUT MIGRATION.
UM, I'M ASSUMING THAT THE ONLY WAY YOU, I'M ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE HAD FOLKS LEAVING, UM, DUE TO GENTRIFICATION, A LACK OF ABILITY TO PAY, UM, FORMIDABILITY ISSUES.
SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU SPEAK TO OTHER DEMOGRAPHERS AND OUTLYING CITIES TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE PICKING UP, POSSIBLY OUR POPULATION ARE, WHETHER YOU CAN SPEAK TO INCOME LEVELS OF PEOPLE MOVING HERE, WHAT'S OUR INCOME LEVEL FOR EXISTING POPULATION VERSUS PEOPLE MOVING HERE.
YOU REALLY GOT TWO QUESTIONS HERE.
UM, BECAUSE MY SENSE IS THE PEOPLE MOVING HERE HAVE A LOT MORE MONEY AND THE PEOPLE HERE ARE MOVING OUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT LESS.
SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? SURE.
SO ONE OF THE OTHER PRODUCTS THAT THE CENSUS BUREAU PUTS OUT, THEY ACTUALLY PUT OUT A LOT OF DATA, VERY USEFUL INFORMATION.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THEY PRODUCE IS A, UH, COUNTY TO COUNTY MIGRATION FLOWS.
AND I'VE SHARED A TABLE BEFORE THAT LOOKS AT TRAVIS COUNTY AND ALL OF THE NEIGHBORING COUNTIES AND REALLY ALL OF THE COUNTIES THAT ARE THE BIGGEST SENDERS OR THE BIGGER, BIGGEST RECIPIENTS OF PEOPLE FROM TRAVIS COUNTY.
AND SO WHAT WE FIND IS THAT IN THE CASE OF TRAVIS COUNTY, WE ONLY HAVE THESE DATAS, UM, AT THE COUNTY LEVEL.
UM, WE HAVE OTHER SIMILAR DATA AT THE CITY LEVEL, BUT THE MARGINS OF ERROR, UM, YOU KNOW, CAN GET A LITTLE, A LITTLE LARGER THERE.
BUT SO WHAT WE NOTICED IS THAT, UM, THIS, THE TRAVIS COUNTY LOSES POPULATION TO DIRECTLY NEIGHBORING COUNTIES.
SO EVERY SINGLE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, BASTROP COUNTY, HAYS COUNTY IN PARTICULAR, THEY ALL RECEIVE MORE PEOPLE FROM TRAVIS COUNTY.
THEN THEY SEND, UH, THE MAY SEND TO US.
BUT WHAT WE FIND IS THAT THE BIGGEST SENDERS TO, UM, TO TRAVIS COUNTY OR OTHER LARGE METRO COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
SO HOUSTON IS A BIG, UM, SENDER OF, OF MIGRANTS, THE CITY OF DALLAS AND DALLAS COUNTY, ANOTHER BIG CENTER.
UM, THE BULK OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS INTO TRAVIS COUNTY.
AND THEN WE GET, UH, ANOTHER SHARE OF PEOPLE COMING FROM OTHER, UM, FROM OTHER STATES.
AND SO THAT MAKES UP MAYBE LIKE THE THIRD LARGEST SHARE.
AND THEN WE GET ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING FROM OTHER COUNTRIES AS WELL.
AND SO REALLY AUSTIN IS GROWING FROM ALL DIRECTIONS, BUT WE'RE DIRECTLY SENDING TO OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS.
AND THEN YOU WERE ASKING ME ABOUT THE INCOME INFORMATION.
SO, UH, MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME, UH, FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE, UH, IN, IN 2019 WAS ABOUT 75,000.
OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT THIS VARIES GREATLY BY RACE AND ETHNICITY, WITH IN PARTICULAR AFRICAN AMERICANS AND HISPANICS MAKING NEARLY HALF, UM, THE INCOME OF, UH, NON-HISPANIC WHITE AND ASIAN HOUSEHOLDS.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS INCREASES IN, UM, INCOME LEVELS, UM, IN THE HIGHEST INCOME BRACKETS AND THEN DECREASES IN INCOME LEVELS IN THE LOWEST INCOME BRACKETS.
AND, UM, EVEN THOUGH WE AREN'T ABLE TO DIRECTLY TIE PEOPLE AND INCOMES TO, TO MOVEMENT AND MIGRATION, WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE INCOMES ARE NOT GROWING AS FAST FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND HISPANICS AS THEY OFFER NON-HISPANIC WHITES AND FOR, UH, ASIANS, THEN WE KNOW THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THAT THE REASON WE HAVE LESS AND LESS HOUSEHOLDS IN THE LOWER INCOME BRACKET IS BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SOME MOVEMENT IT'S NOT JUST INCREASES IN WAGES, BUT IT'S ACTUAL MOVEMENT OF THOSE HOUSEHOLDS WITH THOSE LOWER INCOMES AND THEN MOVEMENT INTO AUSTIN OF HOUSEHOLDS WITH GREATER INCOMES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM, UH, OKAY.
UM, OR THIS INFORMATION, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF, WHEN I LOOK AT THE DATA I KIND OF, AND WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IT SEEMS LIKE THE TREND THAT WE SAW, YOU KNOW, BACK IN 2010 OF AUSTIN BECOMING WHITER AND WEALTHIER
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CONTINUES UNABATED.AND, UH, SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? YEAH, SO THE, SO THE, THE DATA DEFINITELY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH YOUR STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, IT, THERE WAS ONLY, I THINK MAYBE THREE OTHER MAJOR CITIES IN THE COUNTRY THAT REALLY HAD, UM, GROWTH BEING DRIVEN BY THE NON-HISPANIC WHITE POPULATION.
AND THOSE WERE THE CITY OF DENVER, THE CITY OF RALEIGH, AND THEN, UH, TO AN EXTENT, THE CITY OF PHOENIX.
AND SO WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME SIMILARITIES IN, IN, UM, IN INDUSTRIES, IN, IN THOSE, UM, PARTICULAR CITIES.
BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THOSE ARE ALSO PRETTY EXPENSIVE CITIES TO LIVE IN AS WELL.
AND SO WHAT WE, UM, REALLY, YOU KNOW, IF, IF SOMEBODY WERE TO TELL ME WHAT PROJECTIONS WILL LOOK LIKE NOW, NOW THAT WE HAVE THESE DATA IS THAT WE WILL START TO SEE IF TRENDS CONTINUE IS A BIFURCATION OF OUR, UH, POPULATIONS WHERE YOU SEE, UM, HIGHER AND HIGHER INCOMES OR, UM, SUBSETS OF THE POPULATION.
AND THEN, UM, PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD TO MOVE BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO MOVE, UM, WILL DO SO BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE AT, YOU KNOW, AT THE, IN THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY WANT TO LIVE IN, IN THE TYPE OF HOUSEHOLD THEY WANT TO LIVE IN, OR IN PROXIMITY TO THE AREAS THEY WANT TO BE IN.
AND THEN WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO MOVE AND PERHAPS ARE IN MORE SUBSIDIZED HOUSING THAT REMAINED.
AND SO YOU REALLY GET A VERY, UM, SPLIT COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF THE SERVICES AND THE INTERESTS, AND A LOT OF THE CULTURAL, UM, ASPECTS OF THAT.
AND SO IT IS, UM, IT IS A TIME RIGHT NOW TO BE ABLE TO STOP AND SORT OF REFLECT ON WHAT IS IT THAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR CITY THAT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THIS TYPE OF GROWTH.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO MITIGATE THAT? IS THERE, UM, ARE THERE SYSTEMS THAT ARE ENCOURAGING THAT KIND OF GROWTH AND REALLY TRY TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND INTENTIONAL WITH, UH, FUTURE EFFORTS? WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING BACK TONIGHT.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A FOLLOW UP, UH, I GUESS, UH, UH, MEMO ADDRESSING SOME OF OUR OTHER QUESTIONS.
AND I THINK THAT CONCLUDES OUR QUESTIONS FOR, OH, NO.
COMMISSIONER BRAY AND SOMEBODY COMMISSIONED.
COMMISSIONER WOODY, YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN.
YOU HAVE OUR FULL ATTENTION AND SORRY, I JUST LOOKED THERE.
OH, BUT WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, SORRY.
YES, YOU DID ANSWER MY QUESTION, UH, THAT I MOSTLY HAD ABOUT THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE THE POPULATION IS GOING.
AND LIKE, MY CONCERN WAS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE DID GROW THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS ROUND, BUT, UH, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A BIG, UH, AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY AND FLUTE IN THE PFLUGERVILLE AREA.
UM, WHAT THINGS ARE THE CITY OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT THINGS CAN THE CITY OF AUSTIN DO TO TRY ATTRACT MORE, UH, BLACK FOLKS TO THE INNER CORE OF THE CITY.
AND, UM, ANOTHER THING IS, UH, DO YOU THINK THERE'S A WAY, UH, CAUSE A LOT OF THE ZONING CASES THAT WE GET, UH, THE DEVELOPERS SAY, YOU KNOW, I INCLUDED 80% MFI ON, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS HOUSING, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY WAY ANYTHING THAT THE CITY CAN DO TO LOWER THAT OR, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN, WHAT CAN, WHAT CAN THE CITY OF AUSTIN DO? WELL, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SEGUE FOR, FOR ERIC AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
AND, UM, BUT I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS, IS A, IS A GREAT QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE EARLY HALF, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY ASKS, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN THE CITY DO? AND, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, LUCKILY THAT'S NOT MY JOB TO FIGURE THAT OUT, RIGHT.
IT'S LIKE, I'M SORT OF PRESENTING THE DATA OF LIKE, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SEEING, AND THIS IS WHAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO SEE MORE OF IN THE FUTURE IF THESE, UH, THESE TRENDS CONTINUE.
UM, BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE ARE SEEING VERY STRONG AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND THEN, UH, HISPANIC GROWTH IN NEIGHBORING PARTS OF THE, OF THE REGION.
AND SO WE REALLY DO WANT TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND, ARE THERE THINGS THAT THOSE AREAS ARE DOING THAT, YOU KNOW, IDEAS THAT WE CAN BORROW OR ARE THERE THINGS THAT ARE SITTING NEEDS TO START DOING MORE OF, OR, YOU KNOW, NEW THINGS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE, WITH THE MFI LEVELS, UM, I THINK IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DEFINITELY ERICA COULD PROBABLY SPEAK MORE TO.
SO, UM, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY MORE QUESTIONS I'M GONNA PASS IT ON OVER TO ERICA FOR TONIGHT.
MR. BRAY STILL HAS A QUESTION.
UM, I WANT TO ASK IF YOU, UH, IS THERE, UH, NO SECOND THAT WE HAVE TO SLOW THE NORTH LAMAR AND ST.
UH, IS THERE ANY REASON, DO WE KNOW ANY, ANY INDICATION WHY THAT HAPPENED? SO, SO WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU HERE, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A SLIDE TOWARD THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION THAT I REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU.
UM, AND, AND THE COMMISSIONERS TO,
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TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, BUT IT'S A SLIDE THAT INCLUDES, UM, SOME DATA RESOURCES.AND SO WE HAVE A WEB MAP SERIES WHERE YOU CAN GO IN AND LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL CENSUS TRACKS AND INDIVIDUAL AREAS OF THE CITY.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT SUBSTANCE ARE.
THE POPULATION GREW IN A PARTICULAR AREA WHILE OTHERS MAY HAVE DECLINED, OR YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IF THERE'S A HOUSING UNIT COUNT, UM, GROWTH, BUT THERE'S POPULATION DECLINE.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, FUN STUFF IN THE DATA, BUT I THINK WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE ST JOHN'S AREA IN THE NORTH LAMAR AREA IS THAT IT'S A, IT'S AN AREA THAT IT'S IN FLUX, RIGHT? AND SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME HOUSING UNITS THAT, UM, HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED AND NEW THINGS ARE COMING TO THAT AREA, BUT THE CENSUS DIDN'T CAPTURE CAPTURE THEM, OR THEY'RE NOT THERE IN TIME YET WHEN THE CENSUS WAS BEING TAKEN.
THE OTHER PART, AND THAT'S IN TERMS OF HOUSING UNITS, THE OTHER PART IN TERMS OF POPULATION IS THAT IF YOU HAVE A, UM, UM, A FAMILY WHO IS, UM, TYPICALLY A MORE DIVERSE FAMILY HOUSEHOLD, AND THEY HAVE LARGER AND LARGER AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD SIZE, AND THEN THEY MOVE AWAY, BUT THE NEW FAMILY WHO MOVES IN MAY TYPICALLY BE LESS DIVERSE AND EVEN SMALLER AND AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD SIZE.
SO YOU COULD ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE POPULATION DECLINE AT THE SAME TIME.
AND EVEN AS YOU ARE ADDING MORE HOUSING UNITS, IF YOU'RE ADDING A PARTICULAR TYPE OF, OF HOUSING TYPE, THEN YOU COULD HAVE MORE, MORE, UM, UNITS, BUT LESS PEOPLE, UM, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM WITH MAP SERIES.
I THINK IT MAY GENERATE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, SORT THROUGH THOSE WITH YOU.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE SEGUE TO ERICA LEAKS PRESENTATION ON, UM, AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ IT DIRECTLY FROM HERE.
I KNOW IT WAS A HOUSING BLUEPRINT PROGRESS TO DATE, SO IT'S THE PERFECT SEGUE.
GETTING THING, COMMISSIONERS, UH, I'M ERIC LEAK DEVELOPMENT OFFICER WITH THE HOUSING PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND MANY OF YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE, THE CITY'S STRATEGIC HOUSING BLUEPRINT, UM, THAT CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED IN 2017.
UM, IT IS A TEN-YEAR PLAN TO HELP ALIGN RESOURCES AND FACILITATE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS AROUND A SINGLE STRATEGIC VISION TO CREATE 60,000 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS TO HOUSEHOLDS MAKING LESS THAN 80% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, UM, WHICH IS A VERY AMBITIOUS GOAL.
UM, AND AS I GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, YOU'LL SORT OF SEE HOW WE'RE, HOW WE'RE DOING.
UM, I ESPECIALLY SAY THAT IT'S A VERY AMBITIOUS GOAL BECAUSE WE ESTIMATED IT WOULD COST APPROXIMATELY $11 BILLION, UM, TO, TO CREATE THOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS.
UM, AND, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT FUNDING COME OUR WAY YET.
UM, BUT IN 2018, VOTERS DID THROUGH 250 MILLION OR, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.
UM, AND IN 2019, UM, THE CITY WAS, WAS STARTING TO USE THOSE BOND FUNDS AS WELL AS, UH, FINISHING UP USING THE PREVIOUS BOND FUNDS TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THEN IN 2020, UH, VOTERS ALSO APPROVED 300 MILLION, UM, FOR ANTI-DISPLACEMENT EFFORTS RELATED TO PROJECT CONNECT.
SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE BLUEPRINT ITSELF FOR, FOR ANYONE WHO MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT IT, AND THEN I'LL, AND THEN I'LL LET YOU KNOW HOW WE'RE DOING, UH, IN TERMS OF REACHING THESE GOALS.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, THE OVERALL, UH, GOAL WAS TO, TO TRY AND CREATE 60,000 UNITS AT 80% MFI AND BELOW.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS, THERE WERE ALSO GOALS SET, UM, ABOVE THAT MFI TO ACCOUNT FOR OTHER, THE POPULATION GROWTH IN AUSTIN AS A WHOLE.
UM, THE DOCUMENT ITSELF HAS A TIMELINE GOALS.
IT TALKS ABOUT THE NEED TO BUILD PARTNERSHIPS, TO BE ABLE TO RE REACH THESE AMBITIOUS GOALS, UH, IDENTIFY RESOURCES, HAVE A STRATEGY AND ALIGN SOME OTHER PLANS.
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INCLUDED FIVE COMMUNITY VALUES.UM, THOSE INCLUDED PREVENTING HOUSEHOLDS FROM BEING PRICED OUT OF AUSTIN FOSTER EQUITABLE, INTEGRATED IN DIVERSE COMMUNITIES, INVEST IN HOUSING FOR THOSE MOST IN NEED, CREATE NEW AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING CHOICES FOR ALL AUSTINITES IN ALL PARTS OF BOSTON, AND ALSO HELP US TONIGHT REDUCE THEIR HOUSEHOLD COSTS BECAUSE WE KNOW, UH, OTHERS, TRANSPORTATION, UTILITIES, ET CETERA, UM, CAN ALSO BE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF, UH, OF, UH, HOUSEHOLDS COSTS.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME THAT THE BLUEPRINT WAS ADOPTED IS THAT THERE WERE A WHOLE RANGE OF OTHER PLANS, UM, THAT CAME OUT THAT TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE NEED FOR ANTI-DISPLACEMENT EFFORTS.
UM, AND SO AS AFTER COUNCIL ADOPTED THE BLUEPRINT, UM, WE ALSO STARTED DEVELOPING A ANTI-DISPLACEMENT STRATEGY AND, UM, I WON'T GET INTO TOO MUCH OF THAT TODAY, BUT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO IMPLEMENT, UM, THE ELEMENTS OF THE CITY'S ANTI-DISPLACEMENT STRATEGY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, IN ADDITION TO, UM, THE BLUEPRINT GOALS NEXT PLAY, UH, NEXT SLIDE AGAIN.
SO IN TERMS OF THE GOALS, UH, IN TERMS OF THE GOALS THEMSELVES, UM, I'LL BE REPORTING ON THREE YEARS, YEARS WORTH OF PROGRESS FOR THESE SEVEN MAIN GOALS.
I'M SHOWING THEM TO YOU IN, IN THIS VERSION, UM, SO THAT YOU CAN GET SORT OF AN OVERALL VIEW OF THE GOALS, AND THEN I'LL GO INTO THEM SPECIFICALLY, NEXT SLIDE, ACTUALLY TWO SLIDES.
UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, UM, THIS, WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE INDIVIDUAL SCORECARDS FOR 20 18, 20, 19, AND 2020, UH, AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE, AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV/BLUEPRINT.
AND SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO ON INTO THAT AND, AND LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL, UH, YEAR SCORECARDS.
BUT THE DATA THAT I WILL BE GOING THROUGH TONIGHT IS LOOKING AT THE PROGRESS OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.
SO, SO THAT YOU CAN SEE, UM, THAT COMBINED DATA TO SEE OUR OVERALL PROGRESS.
SO, UH, TH THE FIRST MAJOR GOAL IN THE BLUEPRINT WAS TO DISTRIBUTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, HOPEFULLY THROUGH, THROUGHOUT ALL 10 COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
AND, UM, SO THE, THE ICONOGRAPHY THAT WE'RE USING IN THE SCORECARD, UH, IS A, UH, GREEN TRIANGLE POINTING UP TO SAY THAT WE'RE WE'RE ON TRACK, WHICH MEANS THAT WE WILL BE MEETING OR EXCEEDING OUR TENURE GOAL AT THE CURRENT RATE, UM, A SIDEWAYS YELLOW TRIANGLE SAYING THAT PROGRESS IS UNDERWAY, WHICH MEANS WE'D BE AT 16 AND 99% OF THE 10 YEAR GOAL AT THE CURRENT RATE OR OFF TRACK, UH, IS SHOWN WITH, UH, A DOWNWARD FACING, UM, RED TRIANGLE SAYING THAT, THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY HARD TO MEET THAT GOAL.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN SUMMARY, UH, THERE ARE ONLY THREE COUNCIL DISTRICTS WHERE WE ARE, UH, WE ARE AT THE PROGRESS UNDERWAY STAGE.
UM, SO THAT'S DISTRICTS ONE, TWO AND NINE.
UM, THOSE ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, CREATE MORE TOWARDS THE GOALS FOR THOSE COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
UM, SO WE WANTED TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, THE GEOGRAPHY OF WHERE THESE AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE LOCATED.
SO THE MAP ON THE LEFT, UM, SHOWS COUNCIL DISTRICTS IN THE PURPLE OUTLINE, AND THEN IT'S SHOWING THE INCOME, UH, OF FAMILIES WITH THE DARKEST GREEN BEING THE WEALTHIEST, UM, HOW SCHOOLS IN THE LETTUCE SCREEN BEING THE, UH, HOUSEHOLDS WITH AT LEAST WEALTH.
UM, THE MAP ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE SHOWS ZIP CODES OUTLINED IN, IN RENT, AND THEN THE INCOME RESTRICTED, AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE UNITS
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ARE SHOWN IN, UM, YELLOW DOTS WITH, UH, THE SIZE OF THE DOT INDICATING, UM, GENERALLY THE NUMBER OF UNITS FOR DEVELOPMENT.UM, SO THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS, UH, WHERE, WHERE WE HAVE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED THROUGH VARIOUS DEVELOPER INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. UM, SO THAT INCLUDES DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS. UM, IT INCLUDES, UH, AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED, UH, THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED PROGRAM, WHICH IS FAIRLY RECENT.
UM, AND THEN ALSO OUR SMART HOUSING PROGRAM, NEXT SLIDE.
UM, AND THEN GOALS TH THAT THE NEXT SET OF GOALS ARE LOOKING AT OUR CUMULATIVE PROGRESS BASED ON MFI LEVEL.
AND SO, UM, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE STARTING, UH, UP AT, AT 12 ONE O'CLOCK AND GOING CLOCKWISE, IT STARTS WITH UNITS AT 30% OF THE MEETING, FAMILY INCOME AND BELOW, UM, WHERE THERE'S ONLY BEEN VERY MINIMAL PROGRESS.
UM, THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT STAGE IS UNITS AT 31 TO 60% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING FAIRLY GOOD PROGRESS.
UM, AND SINCE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONDS HAVE TO BE USED FOR RENTAL UNITS AT 50% OF THE MEANING OF FAMILY INCOME AND BELOW THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY WHY WE'RE SEEING FAIRLY GOOD PROGRESS IN THIS MFI LEVEL.
UM, THE NEXT GOAL IS FOR 61 TO 80% OF THE MFI OF THE MEANING FAMILY, AND, UM, WHERE AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT SEEING GREAT PROGRESS THUS FAR, THE OTHER TWO, WHO IS THAT QUESTION, MAYBE NOT, UH, THE, THE FOLLOWING TWO SECTIONS THAT ARE IN KIND OF A YELLOW COLOR ARE 4 88, 1% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME AND ABOVE, AND THESE ARE NOT INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS.
UM, IT'S JUST LOOKING AT UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED, UM, AT PRICES, UM, THAT WOULD BE AFFORDABLE TO PEOPLE AT THESE INCOMES.
UM, SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY.
UM, TH THESE ARE THE SPECIFIC NUMBERS AT, UM, AT THESE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME LEVELS.
AND AS I DESCRIBED IN THE SLIDE BELOW, UM, WE'RE DOING, UH, REASONABLY WELL IN THE 31 TO 60% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME RANGE, UM, BUT ARE, ARE NOT MAKING AS MUCH PROGRESS AS, AS WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE 30% MFI AND BELOW OR 61 TO 80% MFI LEVEL, NEXT SLIDE.
UM, BUT WELL, WHAT WE ARE FINDING IS THAT, THAT THE MARKET IS ACTUALLY DOING A FAIRLY GOOD JOB OF PRODUCING UNITS, UM, THAT ARE AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS AT, ESPECIALLY FROM 81 TO ONE 20% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, I'M RELATIVELY WELL AT THE HIGHER LEVEL AS WELL.
AND I SHOULD NOTE THAT OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE IN THESE INCOME CATEGORIES ARE NOT NECESSARILY JUST RENTING OR PURCHASING IN THE UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE TO THEM.
THEY COULD BE, THEY COULD BE, UH, RENTING AT A HIGHER OR LEVEL, LOWER LEVEL.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE OFTEN IN HOUSING THAT THAT MAY NOT MATCH WHAT THEY CAN TECHNICALLY AFFORD.
UM, GOAL FOUR WAS INTENDED TO LOOK AT KIND OF WHAT PERCENTAGE OF, UH, HOUSING IN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT WAS AFFORDABLE AT DIFFERENT MFI LEVELS, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THE DATA TO BE ABLE TO, UM, MEASURE THAT GOALS.
UH, SO WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE OTHER DATA SOURCES.
UM, THE FIFTH GOAL SPEAKS TO WHERE THE HOUSING IS LOCATED.
SO ONE, ONE OF THE GOALS SET BY COUNCIL AND THE BLUEPRINT WAS THAT 75%
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OF NEW HOUSING UNITS SHOULD BE WITHIN A HALF MILE OF A NATIONAL AUSTIN CENTERS AND CORRIDORS.AND, UM, IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, 90, 91% OF OUR HOUSING HAS BEEN WITHIN A HALF MILE IF THOSE CENTERS AND CORRIDORS.
UM, ANOTHER GOAL IS THAT BY COUNCIL WAS THAT AT LEAST 25% OF NEW AFFORDABLE UNITS SHOULD BE IN HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS.
UM, AND THUS FAR THAT'S AT ABOUT 21% NEXT SLIDE.
UH, GOLD SIX SPEAKS TO PRESERVATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH WOULD OFTEN BE, UM, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL SUBSIDY TO, TO INCREASE THE TIMEFRAME OF THAT SOMETHING WOULD REMAIN AFFORDABLE AND WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT GOAL.
UM, THE GOAL SEVEN IS TO PRODUCE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR CONTINUUM OF CARE UNITS AND WITH A GOAL OF 1000 UNITS OVER 10 YEARS, UM, THUS FAR ONLY 116 HAVE BEEN FREED IT NEXT SLIDE.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST A FEW TAKEAWAYS, UM, FROM THIS ARE, ARE FAIRLY EVIDENT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CREATE AFFORDABLE UNITS AND PRESERVE AFFORDABLE UNITS LARGELY THROUGH THE PORTABLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONDS.
UM, BUT THERE IS OBVIOUSLY SIGNIFICANT WORK REMAINING AND WE WILL NEED TO WORK VERY, VERY DILIGENTLY AS A COMMUNITY TO HELP ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO FOR, FOR JUST A VISUAL OF, UH, OF THE PROGRESS MADE, KEEP UP THE WORK AND NEED FOCUS.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF AREAS WHERE, WHERE WE STILL NEED TO FOCUS, SO THAT, UH, COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO, TO TRY AND GET CLOSE TO THESE GOALS.
UM, SOMEONE HAD SUBMITTED A QUESTION ABOUT UNDEVELOPED LAND, UM, IN AUSTIN.
AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO SHOW A QUICK VISUAL OF WHERE UNDEVELOPED LAND IS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, ANY LARGE PARCELS OF UNDEVELOPED LAND ARE AT THE PERIPHERY OF THE CITY AND, UM, AND THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, UNDEVELOPED PARCELS IN THE CITY ARE, UH, BETTER ARE CLOSER TO THE CENTRAL CITY ARE, ARE SMALLER.
SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, THERE'S INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO TWO EACH YEAR ON OUR WEBSITE, AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV/BLUEPRINT.
UM, THERE'S ALSO INFORMATION THERE ABOUT THE METHODOLOGY.
UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO DIG INTO YOU CERTAINLY CAN NEXT SLIDE.
UM, THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT LAILA MENTIONED ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS WEBSITE, UM, AND WHERE YOU CAN FIND MORE, MORE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA.
SO FOR FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO DIG INTO DATA, WE HAVE TWO GREAT RESOURCES FOR YOU.
AND, UH, AND THAT'S THE FINAL, THAT'S THE FINAL SLIDE.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
UH, I'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER GREENBURG AND THEN, UM, WHEN, AND THEN I'LL GO TO ON TV.
SO MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE PROJECT CONNECT MONEY FOR ANTI-DISPLACEMENT INVESTMENTS.
UM, THE SLIDES WE'VE SEEN FROM THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP, UM, TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAM SEQUENCE WHERE THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT INVESTMENTS WILL BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS, I'M SORRY, A HUNDRED MILLION, A HUNDRED MILLION IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND A HUNDRED MILLION, BASICALLY IN 2009 TO 2013.
UM, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT MONEY.
I HOPE THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUYING UNITS IN LOCATIONS WHERE DISPLACEMENT DUE TO PROJECT CONNECT IS LIKELY SO THAT THOSE CAN BE KEPT AFFORDABLE, UM,
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OR PREVENT THE DISPLACEMENT.UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, DOES IT REALLY MAKE SENSE TO SPREAD THAT SPENDING OVER 13 YEAR TIME HORIZON? I FEEL LIKE IF YOU WAIT FIVE YEARS OR FOR SOME OF THE MONEY, EVEN 10, UM, YOU'VE KIND OF MISSED THE BOAT AND PEOPLE ARE ALREADY DISPLACED.
IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THAT MONEY COULD BE SPENT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER? SO, SO, AND NOT EXIST UNTIL WE PAY OUR TAXES EVERY YEAR? YEAH.
YES, THAT IS, THAT IS DEFINITELY PART OF THE ANSWER.
UM, SO THE, THE TIMEFRAME FOR THE SPENDING PLAN WAS DEVELOPED BASED ON, UM, THE, THE, THE REVENUE FROM, FROM PEOPLE'S TAXES AND, UM, THE NEEDS FOR THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE.
SO, UM, THERE HAS BEEN A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS COULD BE FRONT-LOADED EARLIER IN THE PROCESS.
UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, UM, I THINK PEOPLE WILL TRY AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN, BUT IT'S, IT'S UNCLEAR WHETHER THAT WILL BE A POSSIBILITY OR NOT.
I HOPE YOU WILL PUSH FOR IT BECAUSE I THINK FRONT-LOADING THAT SPENDING COULD EASILY MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE AGREE.
AND I'LL, UH, THEN, UM, ANYBODY, I SEE COMMISSIONER KING, THANK YOU.
AND, UM, THE COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, I THINK ASKED A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION AND, UM, THE, UH, DIS YOU KNOW, DISPLACEMENT OF THE FAMILIES AND, AND, AND BUSINESSES TO NOT JUST FAMILIES.
SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TOO, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, PROJECT CONNECT CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HISTORY IN OTHER CITIES WHERE THOSE KINDS OF PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, DID DISPLAYS A LOT OF PEOPLE IN BUSINESSES, PARTICULARLY LOW INCOME FAMILIES AND PARTICULARLY SMALL LOCAL BUSINESSES.
AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN THE DEMOGRAPHICS DATA THAT WE JUST SAW, WE WERE SEEING HOW THE COMMUNITIES HERE ARE BEING PUSHED OUT AND THEIR BUSINESSES AS WELL, AND, AND BEING REPLACED BY OTHER BUSINESSES AND OTHER PEOPLE.
AND, UM, SO THIS ANTI-DISPLACEMENT, TO ME, IT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE KEY BECAUSE OUR OTHER POLICIES AREN'T WORKING, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS DATA, WE JUST SAW WHERE 10 YEARS AGO, AUSTIN WAS GETTING WIDER AND WEALTHIER, AND IT CONTINUES ON TODAY.
AND WE SEE THE CONTINUATION OF DISPLACEMENT, OF OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, OR BLACK AND MEXICAN AMERICAN, LATINO LATINAS, ALL OF OUR PEOP UH, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES OF COLOR BEING DISPLACED HERE, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD, SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE INVESTMENTS, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE, UH, THESE, UH, INCOME RESTRICTED, UH, DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS THAT ARE CALIBRATED TO 80% MFI, WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT 80% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME FOR AUSTIN IS $79,120.
AND A RECENT STUDY BY THE UT LATINOS STUDIES SHOWS THAT THE, UH, THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME FOR BLACK AND LATINO FAMILIES IS ROUGHLY $46,000.
AND SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT MOST OF THOSE FAMILIES, THEY WILL JUST NOT QUALIFY.
AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM IS THAT OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME LEVELS FOR OUR DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS ARE TOO HIGH.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR THE LOWER, YOU KNOW, LOWER INCOME LEVELS.
AND THE OTHER THING IS WE HA WE HAD A CASE TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT BRINGING THE CASE BACK UP, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE NUMBER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT WHETHER IT CAN PARTICIPATE IN THESE, IN IMPORTANT DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS BECAUSE THEY'RE VOLUNTARY.
AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE IN THE PROCESS SOMEHOW, SO THAT WHEN THESE CASES COME TO OUR LAND USE COMMISSIONS, THERE'S A WAY FOR THAT TO GET LOCKED IN, RIGHT UP FRONT IN THE ZONING, SO THAT IT CAN'T GO AWAY LATER ON BECAUSE I SUPPORT THE INCOME RESTRICTED, LOW, LOW LEVEL, YOU KNOW, THE VERY LOW 30% MFI, 60% BELOW 50% AND BELOW THAT'S WHERE MOST OF IT SHOULD BE.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, AND I THANK YOU TO, UH, MS.
I KNOW IT'S A MONUMENTAL TASK.
WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TO DO IT, YOU DON'T HAVE A MAGIC WAND.
I KNOW YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T JUST WIPE THIS AWAY.
SO WHAT DO YOU NEED? DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO HELP MOVE THESE NUMBERS UP, PARTICULARLY ON THE, ON THE LOW INCOME HOUSING THAT WE NEED THE HOUSING FOR OUR LOW INCOME FAMILIES THAT WE NEED.
UM, YOU, YOU ADDRESSED A NUMBER OF REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUES.
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CERTAINLY FOCUSING ON ANTI-DISPLACEMENT EFFORTS AND, AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE THAT IS A, A HUGE FOCUS OF OUR WORK AS IT SHOULD BE.UM, IN TERMS OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME LEVELS FOR DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS, UM, YOU MAY KNOW THAT, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ACTUALLY INITIATED A CODE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE, UM, THE, UH, KIND OF DEFAULT MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME LEVELS FOR THE BMU PROGRAM TO 60%.
UM, WHICH I THINK IS, IS A DEFINITE IMPROVEMENT FROM THE 80% MF MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, OUR BOND FUNDS, UH, HAVE TO BE USED, UM, FOR RENTAL UNITS AT 50% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME AND BELOW.
UM, BUT AS, AS YOU'VE SEEN IN THE BLUEPRINT SCORECARD, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE WE DEFINITIVELY HAVE NOT HAD NEARLY ENOUGH PROGRESS IS AT THE 30% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME AND BELOW.
UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS, IS THOSE UNITS OBVIOUSLY REQUIRE A LOT MORE SUBSIDY AND IT'S, IT'S VERY CHALLENGING TO GET THOSE PEANUTS THROUGH DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF THE LEVEL OF CROSS SUBSIDY REQUIRED, UM, TO, TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT LOW OF A MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME LEVEL, UM, IN TERMS OF RESOURCES NEEDED.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, WE ESTIMATED THAT THE COST OF CREATE, UM, THE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT ARE NEEDED IS AROUND $11 BILLION, UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
UM, WE, I GUESS, UM, IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY RECALIBRATING THE DOWNTOWN DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE IS ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TRY AND SEE IF THERE ARE WAYS TO OPTIMIZE ANY OF THOSE PROGRAMS, BUT, BUT AS YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS HAVE TO BE OPTIONAL INCENTIVE PROGRAMS BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE'RE IN TEXAS.
AND SO THEY DO HAVE TO BE CALIBRATED IN SUCH A WAY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO SPEND.
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, AT MISLEAD ONE, JUST ONE LAST QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE PRESERVATION OF EXISTING, UH, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT 22,313 UNITS.
AND I JUST WONDERED, DO YOU HAVE, UH, LIKE THE OTHER MAPS THAT YOU SHOWED, DO YOU HAVE A MAP OF WHERE THOSE UNITS ARE? SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THE PRESERVATION ACTIVITY IS REALLY TAKING HOLD? UH, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A MAP HERE, BUT, UM, BUT ACTUALLY ANOTHER RESOURCE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE PUT IN HERE IS, UM, IN THE CITY'S OPEN DATA PORTAL, UM, WE HAVE, UH, WHAT'S CALLED OUR AFFORDABLE, UM, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING INVENTORY THAT, THAT LISTS ALL OF THE UNITS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN.
UM, AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN DISPLAY THAT INFORMATION IN, UH, IN A MAP.
UM, UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK IF I KNOW HOW EASY IT WOULD BE TO FIND THE PRESERVATION UNITS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT I KNOW OF HAND, UM, BUT, UH, LET'S, LET'S HAVE THAT BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP ON.
I APPRECIATE THAT MS. LEAK, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE VERY BUSY AND IN TERMS OF THE RESOURCES YOU NEED, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH STAFF? DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORT TO GET THE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE YOU ALL HAVE A LOT TO DO HERE.
YOU GOTTA KEEP, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'VE JUST SHOWED US, ACTUALLY, CAN I JUMP IN HERE? BECAUSE THOSE OF US WHO ARE ON THE DIET, WE ARE GLUED TO OUR SEATS.
WE CANNOT LEAVE AM TO, AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN A CALL FOR A BREAK.
AND SO I WAS, UM, BECAUSE IF ONE OF US LEAVES UNLIKE GOOD OLD DAYS, THEN WE LOSE OUR QUORUM AND THE MEETING GOES TO, YOU KNOW, SO I WANTED TO JUST SAY, IF WE'RE GOING TO WRAP UP QUESTIONS HERE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 10 MINUTE BREAK, BUT I KNOW I NEEDED TO ANNOUNCE THAT NOW BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE SQUIRMING LIKE CRAZY UP HERE.
SO I SEE, I SEE CHAIR BURRELL, RAMIREZ HAS HER HAND UP.
AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY BREVITY AND I HAVE ONE QUICK AND I DO HAVE JUST A QUESTION TO VERY GROUP QUESTION.
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OH, AND I DON'T, AND MAYBE I JUST NEED TO HAVE A LONGER DISCUSSION WITH ERICA LATER, BUT YOU KNOW, DR.VALENCIA DEMONSTRATED THAT, UH, THE BIFURCATION OR WAS DISCUSSING THE BIFURCATION OR POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, THE PROTECTIVE BIFURCATION OF OUR, UM, COMMUNITY AS YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD TO LEAVE WILL, AND THOSE THAT CAN'T WILL STAY.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, THE INCREASINGLY WEALTHY FOLKS, UH, MOVING IN.
AND SO WHAT I, WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS NOT ONLY ON THOSE 30%, UH, MFI, BUT ALL AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT ALL WE NEED TO FOCUS ON BUILDING AT ALL LEVELS, ALL LEVELS OF AFFORDABILITY.
UM, AND FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THOSE RED GOALS IS THIS SUPER DISAPPOINTING MAKES ME VERY SAD.
AND I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU THOUGHT WE COULD DO AS A COMMISSION TO HELP YOU, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, I HEAR $11 BILLION AND THAT JUST SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT KIND OF POLICIES SHOULD WE BE, UM, WORKING TOWARDS? WHAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT WOULD HELP ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? OH, WELL, I, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS LISTENING TO, TO THE PREVIOUS CASE AND, AND BECAUSE, UH, OF THE RESTRICTION ON INCLUSIONARY ZONING, UM, AND THAT OUR DENSITY BONUS PROGRAMS HAVE TO BE, HAVE TO BE OPTIONAL INCENTIVE PROGRAMS. IT DOES THAT, THAT CREATES COMPLICATIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR ALL OF US.
UM, BECAUSE I, I DO THINK THE AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED PROGRAM HAS, YOU KNOW, HAS, HAS GREAT POTENTIAL TO, UM, TO REALLY PROVIDE A LOT MORE UNITS AND AT, UH, YOU KNOW, AT LOWER MEDIAN FAMILY INCOMES.
UM, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS, UH, FOR YOU ALL RELATE IT TO THAT.
SO, UM, I THINK IN GENERAL, JUST RECOGNIZE WHAT THE NEED IS, UM, AND KNOW THAT, UM, WE WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP PEOPLE IN PLACE, UM, AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT AS, AS NEW PEOPLE MOVE IN, THAT THERE'S, THAT THERE'S NOT EVER MORE PRESSURE FOR, FOR OTHERS TO MOVE OUT AND COMMISSIONER KOSTA.
SO I JUST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, UH, WHEN WE'RE SAYING FOR 60 AND 80% THAT WE'RE BEHIND IN UNITS, IS THAT 60 AND 80% OF RESTRICTED TO 80% OR 60%, OR IS THAT, OR IS THAT, THAT EVEN THE MARKET, THE MARKET IS ALSO NOT MEETING THE GOAL OF PROVIDING THOSE, THE UNITS AT THAT INCOME LEVEL? UH, THE MARKET IS ALSO NOT OKAY.
THAT'S SO, SO WE ARE INCLUDING BOTH MARKET RATE, AFFORDABLE AND INCOME RESTRICTED, UM, TO TRY AND SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE OF THINGS, BUT YEAH, THAT THE MARKET IS NOT PRODUCING UNITS, UM, AT, UH, IN, IN GREAT QUANTITIES BILLOWING.
SO THEN TO BE CLEAR, WHEN WE ARE SEEING CASES COME UP BEFORE, BEFORE US THAT HAVE 80% MFI UNITS, LIKE WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT, THAT IT'S NOT JUST THAT THE MARKET'S NOT PRODUCING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE NOT NEEDED THERE, ISN'T JUST A RESTRICTION FOR THAT.
THERE'S A NEED FOR PEOPLE AT THAT LEVEL THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE FOR 80%.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT 80% AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE DATA PRESENTED REVISE, AND THAT THAT'S THE MAX, THAT'S 30% OF THEIR INCOME, RIGHT? SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAYING FAR ABOVE THAT, UH, TO LIVE WHERE THEY'RE LIVING AND THAT THERE IS NOT A STOCK AVAILABLE, EVEN FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN AT 80% MEANS THAT THERE'S PROBABLY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PAYING WHO SHOULD BE PAYING IN THE 60 OR 50% AT THAT 80%.
AND BY LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF STOCK TO PEOPLE AT 80%, IT MEANS THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CASCADE TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT THAT, AND IT'S A REALLY CRAPPY CYCLE.
UM, BUT IT'S JUST, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE PROVIDE HOUSING AT ALL INCOME LEVELS, BECAUSE THAT IS THERE'S THAT, THAT PUSH AND THAT PUSH AND MOVEMENT THAT YOU'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT CREATING STOCK FOR JUST ONE SET OF FOLKS.
WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE AN ECOLOGY WHERE THERE'S ABLE TO BE MOVING AROUND AND WE'RE NOT CREATING THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO THERE IS, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD BE DOING IS JUST TRYING TO MEET THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE SET FOR OURSELVES.
TWO QUICK POINTS, ONE KIND OF GOING ALONG WITH THE LAST TWO COMMENTS, WE NEED TO BRIEF PROVIDING MORE HOUSING EVERYWHERE
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FOR EVERYBODY.WE CAN'T FOCUS ON CERTAIN GROUPS OR CATEGORIES.
IF WE DON'T PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE, WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY THE UPPER INCOME LEVEL, THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE MIDDLE INCOME LEVEL HOUSING.
THE PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING WILL THEN MOVE INTO WHAT'S TRADITIONALLY BEEN LOWER INCOME HOUSING.
SO THERE WILL BE A TRICKLE DOWN EFFECT AS PEOPLE JUST FIND A PLACE TO MOVE.
AND THOSE WITH THE RESOURCES WILL FIND A PLACE AND THOSE WITHOUT RESOURCES WILL BE PUSHED OUT.
UM, AND SO WE NEED TO BE FINDING PLACES FOR EVERYONE TO LIVE ALL ACROSS THE CITY AT ALL LEVELS.
SECONDLY, ONE OF THE MOST DISTURBING MAPS THAT YOU SHOW IS THE UNDEVELOPED LAND.
THERE IS NOT, UM, THERE IS NO LAND.
I, I STARTED DESIGNING STEINER RANCH IN 1995, AND WE OVERLAID THE UNDEVELOPED STEINER RANCH OVER DOWNTOWN AUSTIN.
AND IT WENT FROM TOWN LAKE TO 45TH STREET AND 9 35 TO MOPAC.
AND THAT WAS UNDEVELOPED AREAS.
THERE IS NOTHING OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE IN THERE.
AND IF WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT OUR POPULATION DOUBLING IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS, THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT THEM.
UM, ON TERMS OF UNDEVELOPED LAND, WE WILL HAVE TO BE REDEVELOPING TRACKS OF LAND IN NEIGHBORHOODS, IN BUSINESS AREAS.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE TO BE NOT LOOKING FOR THE BEST OPTION, BUT TAKING WHATEVER OPTIONS WE HAVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT, AND I ACTUALLY WANTED TO ASK, UM, DO YOU STILL DO THE ZONING CAPACITY ANALYSIS? AND HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE ZONING CAPACITY OF THE SOME DEVELOP PLAN? I AM NOT AWARE, OR I, I'M NOT AWARE THAT WE'RE DOING STONING CAPACITY ANALYSIS.
UM, AS, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED QUESTION TO ASK.
AND I'M LOOKING AT IT AT WHAT I THINK IS THE LAST ONE DONE, BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A YEAR ON IT, BUT, UM, IT WAS DONE BY PAUL FRANK IN THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW DEPARTMENT.
SO, AND I KNOW IT USED TO HAPPEN ABOUT EVERY YEAR, EVERY OTHER YEAR.
CAUSE I THOUGHT IT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT TO SEE AN OVERLAY OF THE UNDEVELOPED LAND WITH WHAT IS ZONED FOR IT.
AND THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PLANNING TOOL AND A GREAT STARTING POINT FOR PLANNING, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE AREAS.
I DON'T THINK IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED RECENTLY THOUGH.
SOME OF THAT ANALYSIS WAS DONE AS PART OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISION PROCESS, SO THAT WASN'T TOO LONG AGO.
AND IT WAS IN A REALLY NICE REPORT ANYWAYS.
SO, UM, WELL I JUST A REQUEST, BUT I KNOW, UM, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE IT DONE AGAIN AND, UM, AND ANOTHER STAFFER ASSIGNED TO IT.
CAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS VERY USEFUL BACK IN THE DAY AND IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO.
I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE THAT LONG WHILE I'VE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS, BUT ANYWAY, SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER BRAY, WE'LL DO A BREAKDOWN OF A UNIT TYPE.
LIKE I KNOW THE CENSUS, LIKE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE UNITS THEY LIVE IN, UM, OF INCOME AND UNIT, UH, INCOME AND RACE BY UNIT TYPES OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF PEOPLE, DIFFERENT RACES LIVE IN DIFFERENT MULTIFAMILY, UM, THAT BREAKDOWN AND INCOME LEVELS BY LIKE MULTI-FAMILY VERSUS SINGLE FAMILY OR A RENTER VERSUS HOMEOWNER.
UH, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT ANALYSIS LAILA.
I THINK THIS CAME UP SOMETHING LIKE THIS SORT OF CAME UP IN ANOTHER MEETING.
UM, ANY, ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, SORT OF CITYWIDE, UM, WHEN WE START TO GET INTO MORE GRANULAR PARTS OF THE CITY, THE, YOU KNOW, MARGINS OF ERROR REALLY START TO BLOW UP, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK TO SEE IF I KNOW FOR SURE WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, INCOME AND, UM, HOUSING TYPE.
UM, AND THEN TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT BY RACE AND ETHNICITY, I I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO FOR.
AND I JUST BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S KIND OF LIKE AN ELEPHANT IN THIS ROOM AND THE CONVERSATION, UM, IS, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN PREVIOUS THINGS THAT SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, TROOPS, THE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR WERE VERY MUCH MORE LIKELY TO LIVE IN MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING AND LOWER INCOME.
PEOPLE ARE VERY MUCH MORE LIKELY LIVE IN MULTI FAMILY HOUSING TO BE RENTERS.
BUT YET IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA ON WHAT WE ALLOWED TO BE BUILT IN, MOST OF AUSTIN, WE BANNED MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING AND THOSE OF AUSTIN, WHICH BASICALLY WE ARE BANNING MOST OF THE HOUSING THAT MOST COMMUNITY, LOW INCOME PEOPLE, A COMMUNITY OF HOUSING, PEOPLE OF COLOR, AND LOW-INCOME PEOPLE.
WE BANNED THAT IN MOST OF THE CITY.
SO WE'RE BASICALLY LIKE LEGALLY MANDATING, LIKE ALMOST SEGREGATION STILL IN OUR CITY RIGHT NOW, UM, WITH OUR ZONING.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING OUR COMMISSION IS ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT IS THE ZONING AS APPROPRIATE? I THINK TALKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE MOST OF OUR CITIES RESERVED EXCLUSIVELY FOR HOUSING THAT IS ONLY IN THE CURRENT HOUSING MARKET IS ONLY SINGLE
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FAMILY.HOUSING IS ONLY GOING TO BE FOR THE WEALTHY EFFECTIVELY.
UM, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND IT'S IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR COMMISSION'S JOB IS, IS A REALLY IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION FOR OUR COMMISSION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND IF NOT, THEN THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT WAS VERY RESOURCEFUL AND, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INFORMATION AND YOU AND YOU TOO.
AND WE'RE NOW DOING A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND RETURN CALLING THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
AND ONE THING THAT WE CAN DO WHILE WE'RE WRITING FOR PEOPLE IN VIRTUAL LAND IS TO CONF TO HAVE A VOTE
[B.1. C14-2021-0136 - 2609 and 2611 Davis Lane; District 5 (Part 2 of 2)]
ON B ONE AND INCLUDES THE CLOSING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND YES, B ONE SURE.COMMISSIONER HORIZON AND VERSE.
UH, THE LAST, THE PREVIOUS MEETING IS, OH, WHEN THIS APPEARED ON THE AGENDA, THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONTINUED TO TODAY.
SO WE'RE NOW CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
IT'S ON THE DYESS, EVERYBODY AND IN VIRTUAL LAND, IT'S EVERYBODY.
SO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AGAIN.
AND WE WILL NOW GO ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION ABOUT THE, UM, AND ACTUALLY I COULD YOU, OR COULD I BORROW YOURS BECAUSE TO READ THE, ALTHOUGH WHAT I MEAN, I JUST HAVE TO READ THE AGENDA ITEM, RIGHT? SO
[D.1. Discussion and possible action adopting a resolution affirming meeting location and legally required public notice for in-person Public Hearings for the Zoning and Platting Commission shall reflect the address of Austin City Hall, 301 W. Second Street, Austin, Texas, 78701. (Sponsors: Vice-Chair Kiolbassa, Commissioners Greenberg and King)]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.ADOPTING RESOLUTION AFFIRMING, MEETING LOCATION, AND LEGALLY REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTICE FOR IN-PERSON PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, SHALL REFLECT THE ADDRESS OF AUSTIN CITY HALL, 3 0 1 WEST SECOND STREET, AUSTIN, TEXAS 7, 8, 7 0 1 CO SPONSORS ARE ME COMMISSIONERS, GREENBERG, AND KING.
AND THIS IS
AND SO THE, THIS WAS A RESOLUTION IT'S IN YOUR BACKUP.
AND, UM, CAN WE PUT IT ON THE DOCUMENT CAMERA OR YES.
AND I CAN READ IT VERY, VERY QUICKLY WHERE A CITY HALL IS A WELL-KNOWN AND ACCESSIBLE LANDMARK THAT IS CENTRALLY LOCATED.
WHEREAS SINCE THE OPENING OF CITY HALL HALL, IT HAS HOSTED THE MEETINGS OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE A CITY MANAGEMENT HAS DECIDED TO MOVE THE MEETINGS OF THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN PERMITTING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER, PDC AT HIGHLAND MALL WITHOUT INFORMING THE COMMISSIONER OF THE PUBLIC.
WHEREAS MOVING THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARINGS TO THE PDC PLACES, AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE PUBLIC, THE STAFF AND THE COMMISSIONERS, WHEREAS PUBLIC HEARINGS ON ZONING AND LAND USE CASES BY THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE HELD, OH, IT SHOULD BE IN THE SAME LOCATION TO AVOID CONFUSING THE PUBLIC AND THE NEED FOR MULTIPLE NOTICES, ESPECIALLY SINCE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY BE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATIONS WHERE A SIGNAGE IS LACKING WITH ONLY SMALL SIGNS ON THE GLASS DOORS FACING WELL, HOMIE KNOW, DEL CODE DRIVE THE PDC OFFICIAL ADDRESS, MAKING IT EASY FOR PARTICIPANTS TO MISS YET THE PUBLIC ENTRANCE IS ON THOMAS HATFIELD WAY WHERE A SEVEN HIGH-FREQUENCY BEST ROUTES SERVE CITY HALL, INCLUDING TWO METRO RAPIDS, YET ONLY TWO HIGH FREQUENCY BUS ROUTES, THE SEVEN AND THE 3, 3 7, AND THE RED LINE SERVE THE PDC.
AND THE BUS STOPS ARE CLOSER TO CITY HALL THAN THEY ARE TO THE PDC.
WHEREAS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF PARTICIPANTS IS PARAMOUNT AND CITY HALL HAS METAL DETECTORS, SECURE SECURITY IMMEDIATELY OUTSIDE THE CHAMBER AND SECURE PARKING.
WHEREAS HIGHLAND MALL IS A CONSTRUCTION ZONE.
SO PEDESTRIANS AND TRANSIT RIDERS WILL HAVE TO WALK PAST EMPTY LOTS AT NIGHT, INCLUDING A VACATED LOT USED FOR SURFACE PARKING ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PDC WHILE CITY HALL IS IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ACTIVE WALKABLE DOWNTOWN, WHERE A CITY HALL HAS A DYESS COMPUTERS ON THE DYESS WORK TABLES
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FOR STAFF AND COMFORTABLE PERMANENT CHAIRS FOR THE PUBLIC.WHILE THE PDC FACILITY AT HIGHLAND MALL IS A MULTI-PURPOSE ROOM.
WHEREAS THERE WAS NO REASON OPERATIONALLY TO MOVE THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS TO THE PDC BECAUSE SUPPORT STAFF DOES NOT WORK AT THAT LOCATION.
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE CITY OF AUSTIN ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION CELL CAN, SHOULD CONTINUE TO MEET AT CITY HALL.
AND I EVEN HAVE PICTURES IF YOU WANT, UH, FOR THE, OF THE, OF THE EMPTY LOTS, BUT, UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND AS A PERSON WHO JUST TOOK THE BUS TO HERE TODAY, IT IS, UM, THERE'S NO WAY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CLOSER TO MY HOUSE, THERE'S NO WAY I COULD TAKE A BUS TO HIGHLAND MALL.
SO THAT'S SORT OF WHAT'S DRIVING THIS, BUT ANY, UM, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, BECAUSE I HAD NOT, I HAD HEARD RUMORS THAT WE WERE BEING MOVED, BUT WE JUST GOT A MEMO AND IT MUST IT'S IN SOME OF OUR EMAILS TODAY ABOUT THE MOVE AND CONFIRMING THE MOVE FROM CITY MANAGEMENT IN RESPONSE TO THIS RESOLUTION.
BUT, AND THIS IS THE BUS STOP RIGHT HERE.
AND THE F THE TOP ONE IS THE BENCHES OF THE BUS STOP.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THE BUS STOP AND APOLOGIES FOR THE PICTURES.
BUT MY PHOTOGRAPHER, WHO'S A VERY NICE GIRL.
UM, I MEAN, IT WAS, THE SUN WAS BEAMING AND WE WERE DRIVING.
UM, BUT THAT IS AN EMPTY LOT THERE.
AND IT'S, I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE WALKING IT BACK AT NIGHT, WHEREAS NOW I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEMS WALKING AT NIGHT.
AND SO ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER BRAY, I SAW AN EMAIL, BUT I THOUGHT THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD PLANNED ON MOVING, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING MORE RECENT, BUT THEY WERE PLANNING ON SOMETIME AFTER FEBRUARY, THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO MOVE THROUGH.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
WE JUST GOT IT TODAY, IN FACT.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE PLANNING ON MOVING FORWARD IN THIS RESOLUTION IS TRYING TO GET THEM NOT TO DO THAT.
COM UM, OH YEAH, COMMISSIONER DINKLER I, UM, SUPPORT THIS MOTION.
UM, IT'S JUST A RECORD OF OUR PREFERENCE, BUT WHILE I WOULD ACTUALLY, IT WOULD BE MORE CONVENIENT FOR ME HABIT AT THAT AREA, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A 10 MINUTE DRIVE VERSUS THE 30 MINUTE DRIVE DOWNTOWN.
UM, I THINK WE ARE REALLY DOING THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND THIS IS A CENTRAL LOCATION.
UH, THIS IS THE, A KNOWN LOCATION.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHERE TO GO OR FIGURE OUT THE ROUTE.
UM, WE WERE REALLY DOING THIS, I THINK IT SHOULD BE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC PERIOD.
UM, I HATE THE IDEA OF PEOPLE IN DOVE SPRINGS HAVING TO GO TO, UM, HIGHLAND MALL.
I HATE THE IDEA OF PEOPLE LIVING, UM, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO MAINER AND SOME OF THE ETJ COMING IN AND HAVING TO GO, UM, UH, TO THIS LOCATION.
IT JUST MAKES MORE SENSE THAT WE'D BE CENTRALLY LOCATED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? AND I WANT TO THANK ANDY MOORE, UM, FOR JOINING US.
UM, AND I KNOW HE WAS MENTIONED ON THE MEMO AND I WANT TO S I HAVE BEEN HEARING FEEDBACK.
AND IN FACT, I, EVEN FROM VICTORIA,
AND I'VE BEEN HEARING FEEDBACK FROM TODAY.
I HEARD FROM SOMEBODY IN D TWO SAYING IT'S ALREADY HARD TO GET TO CITY HALL.
AND, BUT TO GET EVEN MORE NORTH WOULD BE, EVEN WOULD, WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC.
AND, UM, AND I'VE ALSO BEEN HEARING FROM LAND USE AGENTS WHO HAVE SAID THAT THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME.
AND I'VE ALSO BEEN HEARING ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT SECURITY, BECAUSE THERE IS NO, UM, WE'RE A LOT MORE SECURE HERE.
AND IF WE EVER HAVE ANOTHER CONTENTIOUS CASE, IT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC.
I I'M KINDA MIXED, UM, COMING FROM DISTRICT EIGHT, IT'S AN HOUR DRIVE TO GET TO HIGHLAND MALL FOR ANY OF THE RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO COME SPEAK ABOUT A CASE AND DISTRICT CATER FOR MYSELF.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF AS TO WHAT'S DRIVING THE NEED FOR THE MOVE.
AND SO I'VE, I'VE KIND OF GOT, NO, IT CAME ON ALL OF A SUDDEN, IT'S LIKE, HERE'S A MEMO LATE.
WE'RE HAVING A RESOLUTION SAYING NO.
AND I'M LIKE, I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOMETHING FROM STAFF SAYING, THIS IS WHY WE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO MOVE, AND THEN HAVE SOME INPUT BEFORE WE COME UP WITH A PROCLAMATION SAYING NO TO SOMETHING THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IT WELL.
AND ACTUALLY, I SHOULD JUST SAY THAT THE RESOLUTION
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CAME FIRST BECAUSE I'D HEARD RUMORS ABOUT IT.AND THEN WE GOT THE MEMO TODAY, BUT ANDY, DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS IT OR ANDREW OR, UM, AT WE'LL HAVE ANDY POINT PERSON? NO.
ANDREW, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT.
COMMISSIONERS, ANDY MOORE WITH, UH, FINANCIAL SERVICES.
I'M THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THE P THREE PROGRAM, UM, WHICH WE USE TO CONSTRUCT THE, THE NEW PDC AND ALSO THE ENERGY HEADQUARTERS.
UM, SO THE, THE DECISION TO, TO, TO MOVE THE BOARDS AND COMMIT THE LAND USE RELATED BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO THE PC STEMS FROM WHERE WE'VE LOCATED ALL 14 DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE PDC WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE REVIEW PROCESS.
SO IT MAKES SENSE TO THEN LOCATE, UM, THOSE MEETINGS IN THE, IN THE SAME PLACE.
AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND, UM, IT'S DIFFERENT, IT'S A CHANGE.
THERE WILL BE AN ADJUSTMENT TO, UM, AS PEOPLE LEARN WHERE THESE NEW NEW MEETINGS ARE.
UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.
AND THEY'VE BEEN IN THE PLANS FROM THE BEGINNING WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL IN 2017, THAT INCLUDED THIS, UM, PURPOSELY DESIGNED CONFERENCE SPACE TO, TO HANDLE BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEETINGS.
I THINK WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO A HUNDRED DIFFERENT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT THE CITY, THE CITY SUPPORTS AND WE HAVE DEFINED MEETING SPACE FOR, FOR ALL OF THEM AND COORDINATE ALL THOSE CALENDARS.
SO HAVING ANOTHER LOCATION WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT AND TAKE SOME OF THE LOAD OFF OF, UH, THE OTHER LOCATIONS IN CITY, ALL BEING ONE, UM, UH, MAKES SENSE AS WELL.
AND SO, WELL, I MEAN, THERE ARE CERTAINLY, UM, ELEMENTS OF THE RESOLUTION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I THINK ARE, ARE, ARE ACCURATE.
AND IN THE SENSE THAT THIS IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS A NEW REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT, AND YES, THERE IS CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
AND ACTUALLY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THIS REDEVELOPMENT BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF A REGIONAL CENTER THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN, IMAGINE AUSTIN ACTUALLY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AS WELL.
THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION FOR OUR EMPLOYEES TO BE A GREAT LOCATION, TO BRING CITIZENS TO AS THE REDEVELOPMENT MATURES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THOUGH THE ISSUES RIGHT NOW, ARE THERE, ARE THERE VACANT LOTS OR IS THERE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, AND AS WE KNOW, HOPEFULLY THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE COMPLETED.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE THAT NEW COMPLETION, THE, THAT LOCATION GETS ACTIVATED AND BECOMES MORE SECURE AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE MORE PEOPLE, UH, ACTIVELY THERE, YOU KNOW, THE ACC IS, IS THEY'RE HAVING NIGHT CLASSES, SO THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE AREA MOVING AROUND.
UM, AND SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S CHANGED.
UM, WE, WE THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THE LONG RUN AND WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING THESE FACILITIES FOR, YOU KNOW, 50 YEARS, UM, THE INITIAL CHANGE WILL BE, WE WILL BE A CHANGE THAT WILL NOTIFY EVERYONE.
WE'VE ALSO HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, WE'VE HAD A CHALLENGE WITH COVID OF, UH, ACTIVELY GETTING, GETTING ALL THIS INFORMATION OUT TO FOLKS.
UH, NOW WE'RE FINALLY READY TO START HAVING THE MEETINGS THERE.
SO IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED SOONER, OBVIOUSLY IF WE HAD, UM, BEEN ABLE TO HAVE IN-PERSON MEETINGS, UM, BUT THERE'S BEEN A DELAY, UH, SIGNAGE ISSUES, WAYFINDING.
AND, UM, WE HELD BACK, UH, OR WE, WE PROVIDED MONEY TO THE, THE BUILDING MANAGEMENT FOLKS THERE TO PROVIDE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
UH, BUT W WE WANTED TO WAIT AND GET FOLKS INTO THE BUILDING, UNDERSTAND HOW IT FLOWS, HOW IT FUNCTIONS AND WHERE THE, WHERE THE, UH, THE NEEDS ARE.
AND SO, UM, A GREAT POINT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO PUT ONE ON THE, UH, ON THE WILAMENA DELCOS SIDE IN FRONT OF THE, UM, THE CONFERENCE CENTER, SAME TIME ON THE, ON THE PUBLIC ENTRANCE, ON THOMAS HATFIELD, IT DOES HAVE A LARGE SIGN.
PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO COME IN THROUGH THAT ENTRANCE AND STILL GET TO THE MEETING.
UM, SO I I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UH, THAT, THAT THAT'S THE PLAN, THAT'S THE BASIS FOR IT.
UM, AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT WILD ABOUT IT.
I THINK, UH, THE DECISION WAS MADE JUST AS THEY LAID OUT IN TERMS OF, UH, WHERE OUR, WHERE OUR FOLKS WILL BE, WHO ARE INVOLVED IN, UM, IN THE, THE CASES THAT YOU GUYS MAKE DECISIONS WELL, BUT OUR CASE MANAGERS ARE BASED AT ST.
JONES AND WATERSHED IS AT, STILL AT ONE TEXAS CENTER.
SO IT IS NOT, SO, YEAH, SO IT'S ACTUALLY
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LIKE, EVERYBODY HAS TO GO OVER TO PDC, BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY INTERACT WITH THE PERMITTING.WE, WE HAVE OUR CASE MANAGERS, WE HAVE WATERSHED.
AND SO THAT IS, I THINK, SO THAT'S AN ISSUE.
AND ALSO, I THINK ANOTHER ISSUE IS THAT.
AND SO, YEAH, SO, UM, AND THEN ANOTHER ISSUE IS THAT, UM, SECURITY, ARE YOU GOING TO, ARE THERE GOING TO BE METAL DETECTORS THERE FOR AN, BECAUSE I THINK OF THAT ONE REALLY HORRIBLE CONTENTIOUS CASE THAT WENT BEFORE THE PC, AND I KNOW, UM, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FELT LIKE THEY WERE THREATENED.
AND I THINK THEY DID HAVE TO HAVE SECURITY REMOVE PEOPLE.
YOU MIGHT'VE BEEN HERE FOR THAT.
I MEAN, I, AND I'M POINTING TO ANDREW, I WASN'T INVOLVED, BUT, AND I'M APPOINTING ANDREW, WERE YOU HERE FOR THAT? DID THEY HAVE TO HAVE SEX? I MEAN, SO THERE'S, SO THAT IS A CONCERN, ESPECIALLY, UM, IF THERE'S A CONTENTIOUS CASE THAT EVER COMES UP AGAIN, YOU CAN DO, UM, COMMISSIONER TELL YOU, ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
NO, WE DON'T HAVE A SECURE, WE DON'T HAVE METAL DETECTORS IN THE BUILDING NOW.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THEY'RE AT CITY HALL IS BECAUSE THERE IS A COURT FUNCTION THAT, UM, THAT CITY HALL HAS.
AND SO THAT ALLOWS FOR METAL DETECTORS TO BE, UH, IN THE BUILDING.
WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE SECURITY THERE, UM, DURING ALL THE MEETINGS, UM, BUT NOT METAL DETECTORS AT THIS POINT.
AND ALSO THE BUSES BECAUSE THERE'S SEVEN.
I MEAN, I TOOK A METRO RAPID BUS HERE, AND THERE'S NO METRO RAPID BUS THERE.
I MEAN, THIS IS JUST AN EASIER PLACE TO GET TO, UM, IF I WAS TO TAKE THE BUS TO HIGHLAND MALL AND I'LL JUST USE ME AS AN EXAMPLE, BECAUSE I LIVE CLOSER TO HIGHLAND MALL, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE BUSES AND THEN WALK A LOT FURTHER, UM, TO GET TO WHERE I'M GOING.
AND SO, AND I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE I ALSO DO HAVE ACCESS TO A CAR, BUT JUST NOT TONIGHT.
UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE, ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DO SHOW UP, WHO DO RIDE THE BUS, WHO RIDE THE BUS.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HERE WHO DO RIDE THE BUS TOO, AND IT'S JUST MUCH MORE TRANSIT FRIENDLY.
THEY'RE SEVEN VERSUS TWO FREQUENT BUS ROUTES.
YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE THE SEVEN UP TO A CRESTVIEW STATION TO GET ON A NATURAL RAPID.
I MEAN, I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING A CHANGE IS LIKE A BUS CHANGE.
UM, ISN'T IDEAL AS SOMEONE WHO RIDES THE BUS ALL THE TIME AS WELL.
UM, BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE, AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT LOCATED IN A, IN A REGIONAL CENTER.
AND AS IT MATURES THE BUS BUS SERVICE WELL AS WELL, I THINK, YOU KNOW, CAP METRO ADJUSTS, THEIR, THEIR SCHEDULES AND THEIR FREQUENCY EVERY SIX MONTHS.
SO, UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, CAP METRO, NO, OF, OF THAT CONCERN.
AND AS WE, AND CERTAINLY THEY WILL RESPOND AS THE RIDERSHIP COMES ALONG AS WELL, WHICH, WHICH WILL ONCE THE, UM, THE PROJECT DEVELOPS COMMISSIONER DINKLER, YOU KNOW, AND THEN TO COMMENT MR. MOORE, AND IT IS NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN, I CONSIDER MYSELF A FAIRLY SAVVY FOLLOWER DOING CITY HALL.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WERE MOVING TO, UM, THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT CENTER.
UH, AND I DOUBT MOST OF THE PUBLIC KNEW THIS FROM WHAT I READ IN THE MEMO THAT WAS GIVEN TO US.
AND WE DIDN'T GET A COPY OF THAT.
FIRST MEMO IS THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE ZUCKER REPORT.
AND GOD, I'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU A LIST OF STUFF THAT HASN'T BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
AND THE ZACKER REPORT THAT I THINK SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF.
SO I'M VIEWING THIS AS STAKEHOLDER INPUT BECAUSE FOR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN 2017, THAT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNEW ABOUT, AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION, NOT BECAUSE IT WILL BE, UM, LESS CONFLICTED FOR ME.
I THINK THE PUBLIC WANTS TO STAY HERE.
AND I THINK THAT IS WHO WE'RE DESIGNING IT FOR.
NOT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO A COMPUTER.
NOT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO A CAR.
NOT EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE TO TRAVEL AN HOUR TO GET TO US A LOCATION OR LONGER.
IT NEEDS TO BE A CENTRAL SPOT.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE WEIGHING IN ON SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW ABOUT.
SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION AND I'LL GO TO CHAIR, BARRERA, RAMIREZ.
I THINK I'M A LITTLE CONFLICTED.
UM, I HAVE BEEN TO THE NEW PDC AND IT IS A VERY NICE BUILDING.
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AND I, I THINK IT IS CLOSER TO THE GEOGRAPHIC CENTER OF THE CITY AND BEING THAT IT'S CLOSE TO 35, IT'S VERY ACCESSIBLE.THE TRANSIT ROUTES ARE LACKING IN THE AREA, THE METRO RAPID GOLD LINE, WHICH WILL BE TRAVELING UP TO HIGHLAND MALL IS THE NEW METRO RAPID LINE THAT THERE'LL BE OPENING IN JANUARY OF 2024.
SO THERE'S STILL A WHILE UNTIL THE, THAT SERVICE WILL BE THERE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M FEELING LIKE, YOU KNOW, CAN'T, I'M KIND OF AGNOSTIC.
I DO, UH, THINK THAT WHEN YOU GET OUT OF THESE LATE MEETINGS, IT IS NICE TO JUST HOP ON A BUS AND BE ABLE TO GET HOME QUICKLY VERSUS WALKING ACROSS THE CAMPUS TO GET TO THE SERVICE IT'S ON AIRPORT BOULEVARD, NO COMMISSIONER BREAK.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK EVEN IF THERE IS GOING TO BE BUS SERVICE UP THERE, IT'S NOTHING GOING TO BE LIKE, IT IS LIKE ROUND HERE.
LIKE THERE'S JUST SO MANY BUS LINES THAT GO THROUGH HERE THAT, UH, IT'S A ONE-WAY TRIP FOR MOST OF US.
AND EVEN IF THERE'S A GOLD LINE, IT'LL BE MORE, I MEAN, I THINK THE SERVICE IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO TRUST IT.
LIKE THE, THE FACILITIES WILL BE, IS GOOD, THAT THEY CAN IMPROVE ON, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF ASPECT OF IT.
I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, BUT I AM TRANSIT ELEMENT, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST THE PUBLIC SIMPLICITY, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE ALREADY AT CITY HALL.
UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE CONFUSING TO HAVE, OH, YOU HAVE A ZONING CASE AND YOU GET A NOTICE AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT BE USED TO WHERE THINGS ARE, BUT LIKE FOR THE PUBLIC, THEY AREN'T.
SO JUST THINKING FROM THE CONTEXT OF THE PUBLIC, YOU GET SOMETHING TO SAYING, THERE'S GOING TO BE MEETINGS.
IT'S ALL SIMPLER WHEN IT'S LIKE THE ZONING AND PLANNING AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH CITY COUNCIL IS STILL GOING TO BE HERE.
WHEN MOST OF THESE CASES GO FOR THEIR FINAL HEARINGS FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING, YOU KNOW, FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS.
UH, YOU KNOW, SO EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT, WELL, ALL OF THIS LAND USE STUFF IS BEING THERE, BUT THERE'S THE P EVERYONE'S STILL COMING TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL BY CITY COUNCIL.
SO I DEFINITELY INCLINED JUST FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC TO KEEP IT ALL IN ONE PLACE, UH, COMMISSIONER ACOSTA.
UM, YEAH, IF, IF IT WAS JUST ME, I'D SAY, YEAH, LET'S JUST GO WITH THIS.
CAUSE IT'S LIKE LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE I LIVE, IT'S A BIKE RIDE.
IT'S GOING TO BE SO NICE FOR ME.
UH, SO, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT I DO WANT TO ECHO KIND OF WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS BEEN SAYING.
THERE'S THAT IT IS, IT IS A RECOGNIZABLE CENTRAL LOCATION WITH SEVERAL POINTS OF ACCESS THAT HAS BEEN A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN, WITHOUT HAVING TO THINK TOO HARD ABOUT NOWHERE TO GO.
AND FOR ALL THOSE REASONS WHY THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THAT'S, WHY I WILL SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION, BUT I DO.
I REALLY JUST WANT TO SPEAK, YOU KNOW, AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT, I THINK WE SHOULD USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF KEEP DEVELOPING THIS VIRTUAL SPACE THAT WE'VE BEEN USING SINCE COVID, UH, I THINK THIS HAS REALLY BEEN WHAT HAS BEEN THE EQUALIZING FORCE IN COUNCIL AND IN THESE COMMISSION MEETINGS TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY, UM, BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF WHERE YOU ARE, SOMETIMES IT IS JUST MUCH EASIER TO BE HOME OR TO BE WHEREVER YOU ARE LOCATED INSTEAD OF HAVING TO COMMUTE INTO THESE MEETINGS.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THIS PORTION, UM, OF OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT'S THIS, THIS VIRTUAL COMPONENT OF IT.
BUT, UM, FOR THE IN-PERSON I THINK, I THINK THIS IS THE BETTER PLACE WHERE WE ARE AT NOW.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? A MOTION, ANYTHING? OH, COMMISSIONER, UH, WOODY.
UM, I ALSO AGREE, UH, I AM SUPPORTING THIS MOTION BECAUSE I THINK, YEAH, I'M IN DISTRICT TWO AND I COULD JUST SEE THE, YOU KNOW, THE HEADACHES THAT THE FOLKS IN MY COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE JUST TRYING TO GET TO THE NORTH LOCATION, UH, TO HIGHLAND MALL.
I, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING Y'ALL SAID.
IS THERE EMOTION OR SHOULD I, I MEAN, I CAN, OH, MR. KING COMMISSIONER KING.
WELL, TERRY, IF YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, I WOULD SECOND IT, OR I CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO, TO, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION.
MOTION BY COMMISSIONERS, UH, KANG SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GREENBERG, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
AND IT IS COMMISSIONER BRAY, GREENBERG KOBASA, DANCLER A POSTA, UH, THOMPSON, WOODY CHAIR, BARRERA, RAMIREZ, AND KING, AND ALL THOSE OPPOSED AND ABSTAIN COMMISSIONER SMITH.
I CAN ME OUT OF THE LAST FIVE MINUTES.
NO, WE'RE NEAR, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANTED TO DO THIS BEFORE WE SET IN MOTION, OUR CALENDAR.
SO, UM, SO THAT THEY COULD, THAT COULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND YEAH.
AND I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS TOO, BUT OKAY.
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RESOLUTION PASS AND I WILL WORK WITH ANDREW.D WHAT DID COMMISSIONER SMITH, UH, AT STAIN? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND I COME, WELL, I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT CASES, SO, OKAY.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD SEEING YOU AND I MISS IT WHEN YOU USED TO PRESENT CASES AND OKAY.
AND THEN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS A SMALL, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S THE APPOINTMENT FOR SMALL.
AND IS THERE ANYTHING I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT A SCHEDULE YET, UNFORTUNATELY, CAN THIS BE PUNTED TILL NEXT WEEK? CHAIR, COMMISSIONER LAYS ON ENVERA IF I MAY.
SO THIS IS JUST A PREVIEW OF YOUR DATES, UM, JUST, UM, REAL QUICKLY.
UM, IT'S JUST A PRIVY FOR, UH, YOU DON'T VOTE ON THE ADOPTION OF YOUR SCHEDULE UNTIL THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
UM, SO JUST, UM, REAL QUICKLY, IF WE COULD GO OVER TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD SHALL MEET THE FIRST AND THIRD, TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH IN NOVEMBER, EACH YEAR, THE BOARD SHAW ADOPT A SCHEDULE TO BEATINGS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, INCLUDING MAKEUP MEETING DATES AND THE HOLIDAYS AND CANCEL MEETINGS.
SO THIS IS JUST TO GET A SENSE FROM THE COMMISSION, IF THERE ARE ANY, UM, CONFLICTS WITH, UM, HOLIDAYS, UH, BUT LOOKING AT THE DATES, UM, FOR 2022, THERE ARE NO CONFLICT DIRECT, CONFLICTING, UH, DATES WHERE THE COMMISSION MEETINGS.
CAN YOU TELL ME IF THERE'S ANY CONFLICT WITH, SAY, SPRING BREAK FOR OUR PARENTS, UM, THE COMMISSION, UM, ANY RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS? UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DISCUSS IT OR NEXT MEETING.
I MEAN, THAT'S ALL THE DAYS ON THE CALENDAR WE CAN LOOK UP AND SEE AND THEN BRING IT BACK.
I MEAN, WE CAN ALL LOOK UP OUR PERSONAL LITTLE THING, LIKE SPRING BREAK.
I CAN DO THAT IN THE UT BREAK.
SORRY, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU SEND OUT A CALENDAR WITH THE DATES.
AND THEN WHEN WE VOTE ON IT IN NOVEMBER, WE'LL HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US TO DO THAT.
AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF ACTUALLY HAVING THAT ON THE AGENDA TOO.
SO WE WILL DO THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
AND THEN NEXT IS, UM, UH, APPOINTMENT OF A NEW PERSON TO THE SMALL AREA PLAN JOINT COMMITTEE.
UM, NO, ADAM T3 IS DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING MATTERS RELATED TO ANY PROPOSED REVISIONS TO LAND, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, I DON'T THINK THERE.
SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF RUSHING US AND GET US OUT OF HERE.
AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FALL ON THE AGENDA.
I DON'T HAVE THAT ON THE PAGE.
SO I ALWAYS HAVE TO GO TO THIS, UM, SHARING AN AGENDA.
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YES, ACTUALLY E FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY.UM, I AM WONDERING IF WE, I SAW SOMETHING ABOUT A COUNCIL DOING, UH, SOME SORT OF HYBRID VIRTUAL SOMETHING RESOLUTION.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT? I MEAN, EVEN IF IT'S NOT FOR US, IF IT'S FOR THE PUBLIC, I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PAST.
I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO OFFER THAT TO PEOPLE AT SUPPORT IT'S LEGAL.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY, OKAY.
SO WE HAVE CO-SPONSORS, UH, CHAIR, BERRERA RAMIREZ AND COMMISSIONER SMITH, AND THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT.
AND I THINK WE COULD JUST BUILD ON WHAT THEY DO.
SO THAT IS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM IS ESSENTIALLY THE HYPE, THE HYBRID PARTICIPATION OR WHATEVER IT'S CALLED, BUT WE'LL TAKE OUR LANGUAGE FROM CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
AND COMMISSIONER KING, IT'S A CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE PLAYING DIFFERENT ROLES TONIGHT.
SO, SO CHAIR, BERRERA RAMIREZ, UH, YOU KNOW, THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU MAY BE REFERRING TO AS ONE THAT COUNCIL PASSED AT THE LAST MEETING TO DO, THEY, THEY SENT A DIRECTIVE TO THE CITY MANAGER TO GO AND, YOU KNOW, COME BACK WITH A BUDGET AND RESOURCES NEEDED TO, TO, UH, FOR HYBRID MEETINGS FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T LIMIT IT.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT RESOLUTION WAS ABOUT.
SO I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THEM, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
I THINK IT'S GREAT IF WE TRY THEM IN AND SAY YES, DO IT.
I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS LAST WEEK.
WELL, I THINK IT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR US TO COME IN
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AND SAY WE SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
I THINK THAT'S REAL IMPORTANT.
AND THEN ONTO OUR NEXT, ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, UM, THEN, UM, I FEEL LIKE JUST, UH, JUST MY, UH, PERIODIC CHECK-IN ON THAT WATERSHED SHIT.
UM, MR.
AND WE ALSO ASKED FOR A BRIEFING ON WHAT, UM, INCREMENTAL CHANGES MIGHT BE COMING FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND
[F.1. Discussion and possible action recommending a member to Council for the purpose of serving on the Small Area Planning Joint Committee.]
THEN ON TO F1 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RECOMMENDING A CA A MEMBER TO COUNCIL FOR THE PURPOSE OF SERVING ON A SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE, BECAUSE COMMISSIONER RAY IS NO LONGER ON THERE.ANY VOLUNTEERS, COMMISSIONER GREENBURG, AND COMMISSIONER BRAY, BOTH HAD YOUR LITTLE HANDS UP.
UM, I ACTUALLY, SHOULD WE WAIT? CAUSE I HEARD A RUMOR THAT THERE'S SOMEONE THAT'S GOING TO BE APPOINTED OR TO REPLACE THE COMMISSIONER RAY SOON.
I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD WITH IT AND FOR A REASON THAT WE CAN, BECAUSE IT'S ESSENTIALLY ALSO CAUSE PEOPLE CAUSE THAT WAY IT'S ON THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW.
AND, UM, AND IT'S, THERE'S A VACANCY AND THERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE MEETING PRETTY SOON IS MY UNDERSTANDING COMMISSIONER DANGLER.
AND I LIKE TO COMMENT ON WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER BRAY IS SAYING.
I DON'T SEE A REASON TO WAIT BECAUSE, UM, WHEN WE GET A NEW COMMISSIONER, THEY CAN BE ASKED WHAT COMMITTEE THEY WANT TO SERVE ON.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE ELECTIONS COMING UP IN, UH, THE SPRING.
SO YEAH, YOU KNOW, UH, MISS MISS GREENBERGER OR HAS BEEN ON THE COMMISSION FOR MONTHS NOW AND IT HASN'T BEEN, YOU KNOW, ADDED TO ANYTHING YET.
SO I THINK SHE GETS A FIRST CRACK AT IT.
AND IT WAS SO WERE YOU SAYING WELL, AND I'LL LOOK ALSO, I WASN'T TRYING TO GET ON IT.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO LIKE, SEE IF WE SHOULD PUT SPUN TO THE CONVERSATION UNTIL WE, YEAH.
WE TEND, WE TEND TO JUST JUMP RIGHT IN BECAUSE SOMETIMES THINGS GET DELAYED.
SOMEBODY THINKS THEY'RE GOING TO APPOINT SOMEBODY AND THEY DON'T THINGS FALL THROUGH.
WE VOTE ALL THE BOARDS AND OFFICERS, ANYTHING ELSE.
SO THAT BE KIND OF, YEAH, SURE.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE, UH, COMMISSIONER GREENBURG BE APPOINTED TO THE, SOMEBODY GAVE ME THE SMALLEST WELL WHERE YOU HAVE A PLANNING COMMITTEE AND TRUNK COMMITTEE.
SO UP THERE, BUT I SHOULD LOOK INTO VIRTUAL LAND.
WAS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTED TO VOLUNTEER OR ANYTHING TO SPEND YOUR AFTERNOONS AT ONE TEXAS CENTER? OKAY.
THEN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF A KING.
I'M NOT WANTING TO, I'M ALREADY ON THAT COMMITTEE, BUT UH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD.
DO WE NEED A SECOND FOR THAT NOW? YOU DON'T NEED A SECOND FOR A NOMINATION.
SO THE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF COMMISSIONER, GREENBERG'S SPENDING HER AFTERNOONS ON THE SMALL AREA PLAN JOINT THAN ANY, I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE I WAS ON IT, ALL THOSE RAISE YOUR HAND AND I'M OKAY.
NO, IT'S JUST THAT IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THE FEW AFTERNOONS WE EXPECT IN-DEPTH REPORTS.
AND SO THAT IS, THAT IS IT COMMITTEE, I MEAN FOR THAT.
SO THEN SHE COMMITTEE REPORTS AND WORKING GROUPS AND JUST IF YOU HAVE A REPORT AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A REPORT, WE'LL GET TO IT NEXT TIME.
DO YOU OKAY? WE DO NOT HAVE REPORTS.
I KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME NEXT TIME.
JUST POINT OUT THAT OUR NEWLY APPOINTED MEMBER TO THE SMALL AREA PLANNING JOINT COMMITTEE, WE DO, WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR, UH, MONDAY, UH, LET LET'S NEXT MONDAY.
AND SO JUST TO GIVE HER A HEADS UP, UH, COMMISSIONER GREENBERG AT 1130, AND THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH COUNCIL.
THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE JUMP ON IT.
SO, UM, IF, IF I GET IS ABLE TO GET IT INTO COUNSEL OF COUNSEL IS ABLE TO PROCESS IT, THEN SHE WILL BE APPOINTED.
AND IF NOT, IT'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE NEXT MEETING.
IS MEETING ON THE 20TH WEDNESDAY? YES.
TOMORROW, TOMORROW THAT'S TOMORROW.
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ADJOURNED.