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[CALL TO ORDER]

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UM, 5:02 PM.

SO I'M GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR, I GUESS IT'S A SPECIAL CALL TECHNICALLY MEETING OF THE URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, I GUESS, UM, I GUESS THE FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST SORT OF WELCOME OUR NEW MEMBER.

CAN YOU, YOU MAYBE WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF REALLY QUICKLY PUSHER? YEAH, FOR SURE.

RED BUTTON.

HELLO? OKAY.

UM, I'M CECILIA.

I DO GO BY CC MOSTLY.

UM, ALTHOUGH SICILIA IS LIKE WRITTEN EVERYWHERE, BUT YOU CAN DEFINITELY CALL ME CC IF YOU'D LIKE.

UM, AND YEAH, I'VE JUST JOINED, JUST GOT ON BOARD.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE IN MY FIRST MEETING AND EVERYTHING, SO NICE TO MEET EVERYONE.

YEAH.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

SO OUR FIRST, UH, ITEM IS THE GENERAL CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

UH, DO WE HAVE ANY ONE UP FOR CITIZEN COMMUNICATION TODAY? NO, WE DO NOT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL WITH THAT,

[1. APPROVAL OF November 2nd, 2021 MINUTES]

I GUESS WE WILL MOVE OVER, MOVE TO ITEM ONE, WHICH IS, UH, APPROVAL OF OUR MEETING MINUTES FROM OCTOBER 5TH, 2021.

IT SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET FOR REVIEW.

UM, I'D MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION SECONDED.

SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, LET'S TAKE A WITH NO DISCUSSION.

WE CAN TAKE A VOTE ON THAT ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MEETINGS.

PLEASE SAY, AYE, OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

ANY NAYS, ABSTENTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

UM, SO, UM, THAT BRINGS US RIGHT INTO OUR NEW BUSINESS ITEMS.

[2A. Right of Way Vacation of Harvey St]

IF I'M UNDERSTANDING FROM CHRISTOPHER ITEM IS NOT, I'M NOT GOING TO BE AT THIS SESSION, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

UM, COMMENCEMENT IS, UNFORTUNATELY I SENT YOU ALL AN EMAIL ABOUT THIS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN POSTPONED UNTIL JANUARY OF 2022.

UM, I'LL KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED ON WHEN WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE THAT ON NEXT UTC, JANUARY DATE.

UM, BUT IT HAS BEEN POSTPONED UNTIL THEN.

OKAY, GREAT.

[2B. Quiet Zones Presentation]

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL MOVE DIRECTLY THEN INTO ITEM TWO B, WHICH IS A PRESENTATION ON QUIET ZONES FROM, UM, CAT METRO.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS.

GOOD TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS SAM SERGEANT.

I SERVE AS A DIRECTOR OF STRATEGY FOR THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP AS WELL AS CAPITAL METRO.

AND I'M JOINED BY JASON GREGORY AND I'LL I'LL LET JASON INTRODUCE HIMSELF, JUST TAP THE BUTTON.

HELLO.

THERE WE GO.

HELLO, I'M JASON GREGORY.

I AM THE PROJECT MANAGER, UH, IN CHARGE OF SIGNALS WITH CAPITAL METRO AND WE HAVE A NICE BRIEF SUMMARIZED PRESENTATION EXPLAINING QUIET ZONES AND HOW WE FUND THEM AND WHERE THEY ARE.

SO I WILL GET US STARTED.

AND I'LL ALSO MENTION THAT, UH, WE'RE JOINED BY DAVE DEC.

UH, HE IS CAPITOL METRO'S VICE PRESIDENT OF RAIL OPERATIONS.

SO I THINK JUST TO START OFF, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO PUT IT INTO SOME GEOGRAPHIC AND OPERATIONAL CONTEXT.

UM, BUT THE CAPITAL METRO IS MAINLY KNOWN ON THE RAIL SIDE FOR THE RED LINE.

UH, BUT THE CAPITAL METRO HAS 162 MILES OF TOTAL TRACK FOR BOTH FREIGHT CURRENT COMMUTER AND FUTURE COMMUTER OPERATIONS.

BACK IN THE LATE EIGHTIES, CAPITAL METRO HAD THE FORESIGHT TO BUY UP, UH, THIS AMOUNT OF, OF RAIL RIGHT OF WAY FROM THE SOUTHERN PACIFIC, BEFORE IT WENT INTO ABANDONMENT PROCEEDINGS.

AND IT'S GIVEN THE AGENCY A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY, BOTH FOR COMMUTER AND FREIGHT.

THERE'S 32 MILES OF A, OF METRO RAIL RED LINE COMMUTER RAIL SERVICE OPERATING TODAY.

AND WE HAVE 10 STADLER METRO RAIL VEHICLES AND NINE STATIONS.

ALTHOUGH WE ARE WORKING ON A NEW STATION AT MCCULLOUGH, AS WELL AS AN INFILL STATION OR SENSORY REPLACEMENT STATION FOR THE CURRENT CRAMER STATION AT THE BROADMORE DEVELOPMENT NEAR THE DOMAIN, GOING FORWARD AS PART OF PROJECT CONNECT, THERE'S 25 MILES OF, UH, FUTURE GREEN LINE, UH, SERVICE, UH, THAT WILL BE ON CAPITOL METRO'S EXISTING FREIGHT RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH 10 STATIONS.

SOME OF THOSE ARE IN THE INITIAL INVESTMENT AS PART OF PROPOSITION A, SO THEY'RE WITHIN THE CITY OF AUSTIN RUNNING UP TO COLONY PARK, AND THEN EVENTUALLY WE EXPECT TO HAVE AN EXTENSION OUT TO THE CAPITAL METRO MEMBER, CITY OF MAYNOR.

SO THAT IS A CAPITAL MENTORS RAIL OPERATION IN A NUTSHELL.

AND I WILL HAND IT OVER TO JASON, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THE INS AND OUTS OF PRIVATE ZONES.

THANK YOU.

I'M STILL ON.

OKAY.

SO, UM, THE FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT DOES A QUIET ZONE, UM, PER FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION RULES, UH, ENGINEERS ARE REQUIRED TO SOUND THEIR HORNS IN ADVANCE OF A CROSSING IN THE APPROACH, UH, UNLESS THERE'S AN APPROVED QUIET ZONE IN PLACE.

UM, A QUIET ZONE IS USUALLY REQUESTED THROUGH

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THE RAILROAD FROM THROUGH THE RAILROAD FROM VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES, WHETHER IT BE CITIES, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE OR DEVELOPERS SOMETIMES.

SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A QUIET ZONE DOWN IN SOUTH AUSTIN PARMER LANE, WHICH WAS REQUESTED BY THE DEVELOPER OF THE, UH, OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THAT AREA.

UH, A THOROUGH APPROVAL PROCESS IS FOLLOWED IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH, UM, A QUIET ZONE THERE.

YEAH, I'VE GOT MY CHEAT SHEET HERE TO RAILROAD OFFICIALS, AS WELL AS STATE AND FEDERAL AUTHORITIES CALLED A DIAGNOSTIC REVIEW COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED WHAT IS NEEDED AT THE CROSSINGS TO DEEM THEM SAFE FOR QUIET ZONE STATUS.

SO I'M ON THE COMMITTEE.

WE HAVE FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION MEMBERS AND CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER MEMBERS, AND WE MEET, UM, USUALLY THROUGH A LOT OF EMAILS AND IN PERSON ONSITE IN THE FIELD.

AND WE DETERMINE IF THE CROSSING ITSELF IS ADEQUATE ENOUGH TO DECLARE A QUIET ZONE CROSSING, THERE ARE PERIODICALLY REVIEWED TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION IS STILL VALID TO MAINTAIN QUIET ZONE STATUS.

AND WE DO INTERNAL AUDITS, UH, PERFORM THEM REGULARLY TO VERIFY THAT THE QUIET ZONE IS STILL HOLDING ITS INTEGRITY TO REMAIN A QUIET ZONE.

WE ARE NOT WORKING.

THERE WE GO.

HERE WE GO.

THANK YOU.

QUIET ZONE CROSSINGS MUST ADHERE TO FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT ARE STRINGENT IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN SAFETY.

SO WE ALSO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, STATE AND LOCAL MANDATES THAT WE FOLLOW AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION.

ONCE THE CROSSINGS MUST HAVE SUFFICIENT SAFETY MEASURES INCLUDED USING EITHER SUPPLEMENTAL SAFETY MEASURES, WE CALL THEM SSMS METHODS, SUCH AS FOUR QUADRANT GATES CHANNEL CHANNELIZATION EFFORTS, SUCH AS MEDIANS OR DELINEATORS.

AND THERE'S A STRICT RULES IN HOW HIGH THE CURBS MUST BE IN ORDER TO DEEM THEM A PROPER MEDIAN.

AND WE ALSO CAN USE ALTERNATIVE SAFETY MEASURES, WHICH IS USUALLY LIKE, UH, UH, ENFORCEMENT PROGRAMS, OTHER ENGINEERING EFFORTS IN ORDER TO TRY TO, UH, MAINTAIN THAT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE DIAGNOSTIC REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, ENGINEERS CAN INSTILL, WILL BLOW THE HORNS.

IF DANGERS AT THE CROSSING ARE CROSSING OUR EVIDENCE SUCH AS TRESPASSERS CARS BLOCKING THE CROSSING OR WORKERS AND EQUIPMENT NEAR THE RIGHT AWAY.

UH, WE DO A LOT OF WORK OUT THERE.

WE HAVE MAINTENANCE, UH, AND CONTRACTORS THAT ARE WORKING NEAR THE RAILROAD AND THE ENGINEERS STILL WILL SOUND THEIR HORNS.

SOMETIMES WE'LL GET CALLS OF WHY ARE THEY BLOWING THEIR HORNS? AND SOMETIMES IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE DOING WORK OUT THERE OR DO THEY BLOW IT BECAUSE THERE'S A TRESPASSER OR THE CARS BACKED UP AT A, AT A CLOSE INTERSECTION AND THEY'RE BLOCKING THE, UH, THE CROSSING ITSELF INSIDE THE, UH, THE QUAD GATES, HOW ARE QUIET ZONED CROSSINGS FUNDED? SO THEY'RE FUNDED THROUGH VARIOUS METHODS.

UH, WE CAN DO CAPITAL PROJECT FUNDS SO WE CAN DEVELOP A CAPITAL PROJECT AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, UH, FUNDING, FUNDING IT INTERNALLY.

WE ALSO CAN GET FEDERAL GRANTS SUCH AS A SECTION ONE 30.

WE HAVE SOME CROSSINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, UH, IN THE SECTION ONE 30 RIGHT NOW WITH TXDOT AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT FUNDS IN SOME CASES, UH, QUIET ZONES IN THE AUSTIN METRO AREA.

SO AUSTIN CEDAR PARK AND LEANDER COMPRISED THE CAPITAL METRO COMMUTER LINE.

THAT'S THE CENTRAL SUBDIVISION.

WE CALL IT, THERE ARE 86 CROSSINGS IN THE COMMUTER CENTRAL SUBDIVISION.

ALL OF THEM ARE OFFICIAL QUIET ZONES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF RUN BIRD, RUTLAND, BREAKER KRAMER, MCNEIL, ROUND ROCK AND PLEASANT VALLEY ROAD.

AND SO THESE OTHER CROSSINGS THAT ARE IN THAT ARE IN QUIET ZONES, THEY'RE CLUSTERED INSIDE OF QUIET ZONE CLUSTERS.

SO SOME OF THEM HAVE AS FEW AS ONE SUCH AS THE PARMER LANE IN SOUTH AUSTIN AND SOME HAVE 20.

SO EACH ONE HAS GOT A DIFFERENT NAME AND WE HAVE, UH, SIX, SIX NOW, DIFFERENT QUIET CLUSTERS.

AND THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

HAVE YOU COME UP WITH YOUR OWN INTERNAL, UH, TEMPLATE DESIGN FOR HOW YOU'RE GOING TO APPROACH EACH OF THOSE CROSSINGS? OR DO YOU ALREADY HAVE AN ESTABLISHED ONE FOR THE ONES EXISTING? WE HAVE MANY DIFFERENT SPECIFICATIONS AND STANDARDS THAT WE ADHERE TO.

SO THERE'S THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF RAILROADS.

THERE'S A RHEMA DIFFERENT STANDARDS THAT WE ABIDE BY IN ORDER TO DEVELOP OUR DESIGN FOR A QUIET ZONE AND MAINTAIN THAT FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION, UM, COMPLIANCE.

SO YOU'VE NOT DETERMINED WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO DATE CHANNELIZATION OR HOW YOU'RE GOING TO APPROACH YOU.

NO, AND THAT IS USUALLY DETERMINED, UH, WITH THE DIAGNOSTIC REVIEW COMMITTEE.

OKAY, THANKS.

HMM.

I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE

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ARE NO DUMB QUESTIONS, BUT THIS MAY BE ONE, UM, THE FUNDING THAT GOES TOWARDS ALL THE ANALYSIS FOR WHETHER OR NOT IT MEETS THE STANDARDS, WHETHER OR NOT IT CAN BE.

UH, AND THEN ALL OF THE, UH, ADDITIONAL, UM, STEPS THAT YOU ALL TAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS IN PLACE.

UM, IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT A LOCATION CAN BE A QUIET ZONE, IS THAT CORRECT? AND THEN, AND THEN CONSTANT UPKEEP OF THAT AS WELL.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A BUDGET, THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THAT GOES TOWARDS THAT TIME.

AND THEN THE MATERIALS RELATED TO ADDITIONAL SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS.

ABSOLUTELY.

EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING GOES INTO A SPREADSHEET AND WE DETERMINED WHAT THE LABOR AND THE MATERIALS ARE GOING TO COST IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT A QUIET ZONE CROSSING.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE ALSO FACTOR IN THE MAINTENANCE COST AS WELL, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING GETS TESTED 28 DAYS IN SOME CASES IN SOME QUARTERLY YEARLY, WHATEVER.

BUT SO, UH, IT IT'S A LOT OF THAT GETS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, ON AVERAGE, WHAT DOES A QUIET ZONE COST TO IMPLEMENT? OH, WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

SOMETIMES THEY CAN, UH, I MEAN, IF IT'S ALREADY GOT QUAD GATES IN PLACE, UM, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN DEEMED A QUIET ZONE, UH, VERY LITTLE, BUT IF, IF YOU HAVE A STANDARD TWO GATE SETUP, UM, SUCH AS LIKE A RUNDBERG, UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, PUT QUAD GATES IN AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE TO GO INTO MAKE, UH, THE SUPPLEMENTAL SAFETY MEASURES BE ADEQUATE AND IT COULD RUN SOMETIMES UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS.

GOTCHA.

GOTCHA.

AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION WAS ON THE FUNDING PIECE, YOU MENTIONED THERE WAS DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES, BUT LIKE IN THE CASE OF, IF A DEVELOPER ASKED FOR ONE WITH A DEVELOPER HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT, FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT QUIET ZONE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S STILL, YES.

OKAY.

I'M DEFERRING TO MY VP.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

BUT USUALLY I, I WORKED AT, UH, UNION PACIFIC AND CSX, AND USUALLY IF SOMEBODY WANTED, IF THEY REQUESTED A QUIET ZONE, THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.

AND THEN THE RAILROAD, UM, ASSUMED THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTENANCE.

IT'S KIND OF AN AGREEMENT DEPENDING UPON THE STATE AND THE COUNTY.

GOTCHA.

SO, SO FOR QUIET ZONES, THESE ARE OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC STREETS, BUT LIKE, IF THERE'S LIKE A PRIVATE CROSSING, LIKE A PRIVATE STREET THAT CROSSES THE RAIL, WHAT IS THAT, HOW IS THAT HANDLED? I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THAT AT ALL IN TERMS OF LIKE, I GUESS I'M THINKING, AND THIS IS NOT, MAYBE NOT THE GREATEST EXAMPLE CAUSE IT'S ABOUT TO CHANGE, BUT LIKE BACK BEHIND BROADMORE, THERE'S LIKE THAT ROAD THAT LEADS BETWEEN IBM AND UP TO THE SCHWAB COMPLEX.

LIKE THAT ROAD IS NOT A CITY STREET, BUT IT'S A ROAD OR STREET LIKE THAT KIND OF A STREET OR OVER, YOU CAN KIND OF TELL WHERE I LIVE BY THE QUESTIONS I'M ASKING, UM, OVER THERE BY, UM, THE HIDEOUT, LIKE BURGER JOINT.

THERE'S ACTUALLY LIKE SOME PRIVATE STREETS THAT LEAD BACK TO, I THINK, SOME HOMES BACK THERE.

AND THERE'S ACTUALLY BEEN SOME, UH, SOME THAT WAS SORT OF A DANGEROUS SPOT.

LIKE THERE WAS A CAR THAT GOT HIT THERE BY A TRAIN THAT WAS COMING OUT AT ONE POINT.

UM, SO LIKE THOSE KINDS OF LOCATIONS, UM, WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE FOR A QUIET ZONE OR LIKE HOW, HOW, LIKE THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE GATES SOME OF THESE, RIGHT.

LIKE THAT, MAYBE IT DOES NOW.

UM, WELL WE DO, WE DO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF CROSSINGS.

WE HAVE A PASSIVE CROSSING, WHICH IS USUALLY JUST CROSS BOOK ONLY.

AND IF ANYTHING ELSE IS ADDED TO THAT, UH, OTHER THAN A CROSSWALK OR A STOP OR YIELD SIGN, WHETHER IT BE FLASHING LIGHTS OR GATES, THEN WE CALL THAT AN ACTIVE CROSSING IN, IN CHAIR.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

AND OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREAS THAT ON THE, UH, THE SOUTHBOUND PORTION OF THE TOLL, YOU KNOW, TOLD MOPAC OVER THERE IN THAT GENERAL DIRECTION, YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, JUST SOUTH OF HOWARD STATION, YOU'VE GOT A SERIES OF PRIVATE CROSSINGS.

WE'VE ALSO GOT, I BELIEVE A COUPLE MORE UP IN THE LEANDER CEDAR PARK AREA AS WELL.

UM, BUT I WOULD DEFER TO, TO JASON ON, ON HOW, HOW A QUIET ZONE COULD BE ESTABLISHED WHEN YOU JUST HAVE THE CROSS-BOX AND A PRIVATE CROSSING.

WELL, UM, THEN WE HAVE, WELL, THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME, SOME CROSSINGS, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT ARE PASSIVE CROSSINGS THAT WE DO, UM, DEEM THEM AS A QUIET ZONE, BUT STILL IT'S THE ENGINEER'S DUTY TO REMAIN VIGILANT, TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT MAY MAKE THEM NEED TO SOUND THE HORN, THEN THEY WILL, BUT IT STILL HAS THE SAME STRINGENT REGULATIONS THAT MUST BE FOLLOWED.

HERE WE GO.

IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT THAT TRAINS SLOW DOWN? WHAT'S THE SPEED LIMIT FOR THE TRAIN AS A CROSSING? IS THERE ANY, OR IS IT, YES, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED CONTROL LINES AND WE RUN ON CAB SIGNALS, OUR DMES DO.

AND SO DO THE FREIGHT.

THEY HAVE AN ACTUAL EDU READOUT THAT SHOWS THE SPEED THEY MUST MAINTAIN.

AND WE HAVE NOW WHAT'S CALLED POSITIVE TRAIN CONTROL AND WE'RE RUNNING IT IN REVENUE SERVICE.

UM, WE WERE ACTUALLY THE SECOND,

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UH, TYPE OF RAILROAD.

WE ARE TO GET CERTIFIED BY THE FRA AND THAT'S A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT.

SO, UM, THE SPEEDS ARE DICTATED BY GRADE IF IT'S UPHILL DOWNHILL.

AND WE MEASURE THAT VERY, VERY, UH, ACCURATELY, UH, CURVES IN THE AREA AND, UH, UH, THE ACTUAL CONDITION OF THE TRACK AND THE BALLASTS ALSO AS WELL.

SO WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND DID VARIOUS STUDIES AND FOUND THAT THIS IS THE MAXIMUM SPEED.

WE CAN GO IN THIS AREA AND WE MAY GO 60.

OUR MAX AUTHORIZED SPEED IS 60.

AND SOMETIMES WE MAY GO DOWN AS LOW AS 30 OR 40, DEPENDING ON THE TRACK CONDITIONS.

AND SO, UH, THEY ARE NOT, UM, CALLED ON TO SLOW DOWN AT A CROSSING.

THEY ARE TO GO AT THAT SPEED THAT IS SHOWING ON THE READOUT THAT WE'VE DETERMINED THROUGH THE CONTROL LINES IS A, IS A SAFE SPEED FOR THEM TO TRAVEL.

SO THE CROSS AND THAT THERE'S A CROSS IN THERE HAS NO EFFECT.

IT'S JUST THE GEOGRAPHY AND THE TRACK.

THAT IS CORRECT, BUT OUR DMS CAN STOP VERY FAST COMPARED TO THE FREIGHT TRAINS, THE FREIGHT DRINKS TAKE A LONG TIME TO STOP, BUT THE DME IS, CAN STOP PRETTY WELL.

WHAT FREIGHT COMES ON THOSE LINES? I WAS STRUCK BY THAT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION, AUSTIN WESTERN RAILROAD IS THE, UH, THE OPERATING COMPANY THAT, THAT RUNS FREIGHT ON THE TRACKS.

AND THEY ACTUALLY RUN THROUGH OUR CENTRAL SUBDIVISION IF, TO GET OVER TO THE, UH, TO THE WEST CITY, SUCH AS ELGON.

AND SO WE HAVE, UM, UH, AUSTIN WESTERN, AND THEN A, UH, CONTRACTOR THAT MAINTAINS THE TRACK AND THE SIGNALS, AND THAT'S A CDL OR WAKO.

AND PART OF THE, UH, PART OF THE, THE, THE PURCHASE THAT CAPITAL METRO DID FROM THE SOUTHERN PACIFIC IN THE LATE EIGHTIES, ALSO BROUGHT WITH IT, THE COMMON CARRIER OBLIGATION.

SO THE RAILROAD SO LONG AS THERE'S A WILLING CUSTOMER STILL HAS TO PROVIDE THAT, THAT FREIGHT SERVICE.

AND SO, AS JASON SAID, WE, WE CONTRACT OUT THAT SERVICE.

UM, AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE, CAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD MAP FOR THIS, THE 160 SOME MILES OF TRACK THAT WE HAVE RUNS ALL THE WAY EAST OUT TO GETTINGS, UH, VIA MAINER AND ELGIN, AND THEN HEADING OUT TOWARDS THE HILL COUNTRY, PAST LEANDER HEADS UP TO, UH, LANDO MARBLE FALLS AND BURNETT.

UM, AND NOT ALL OF THAT IS USED FOR FREIGHT.

SOME, SOME OF THOSE AREAS DON'T HAVE A CUSTOMER, BUT THERE ARE QUITE A BIT OF A QUESTION COREY'S, UM, UH, LUMBER, I BELIEVE YOUR BUILDING MATERIALS AND, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THE FREIGHT OPERATION WORKS AND IT DOES GENERATE REVENUE THAT THEN COMES BACK TO CAPITAL METRO.

OKAY.

THANKS.

THAT'S INTERESTING.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT.

I THINK WE'RE DONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

APPRECIATE IT.

YES.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL WITH THAT, I

[2C. 2022 UTC Dates]

THINK WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM TWO C, WHICH IS THE UTC DATES FOR 2022.

SO ANNUALLY, WE DO HAVE TO, UM, APPROVE OUR MEETING DATES AND I'M OPTIMISTIC THAT WITH CHRISTOPHER'S FINE WORK WITH THE CITY, WITH THE CITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE KEEPING OUR REGULAR MEETINGS, MAYBE SO THERE.

SO, UM, WE HAVE IN HERE IN YOUR PACKET, YOU CAN SEE THE DATES.

SO THE PROPOSED DATE IS THE, THE FIRST TUESDAY.

YES.

AND THOSE ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, THE CURRENT DATA HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE.

YOU CAN SEE THE COUNCIL MEETING DATES ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE.

UM, ALSO PUT THE BUDGET DATES IN THERE.

I MEAN, I NOT, I PUT THIS IN THERE.

THIS IS A DRAFT FROM THE, UH, THE COUNCIL BASED.

I JUST EDITED MYSELF.

UM, SO THE BUDGET DATES ARE IN THERE.

UH, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT YOU ALL WOULD RECEIVE THE TRANSPORTATION BUDGET FOR 2023, UM, EITHER THAT SOMETIME IN AUGUST OR JULY OR SOMETIME BEFORE THEN.

UM, BUT I WANTED TO INCLUDE THOSE DATES AS WELL ON, PLEASE DO TAKE A LOOK OVER THIS.

UM, THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY ISSUES IN TERMS OF UTC AND HOLIDAYS, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO, UH, I GUESS DOUBLE CHECK THAT I GUESS I THINK WE SHOULD BE GOOD TO GO.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, NEVER BE, YOU KNOW, I THINK AISD, I THINK STARTS BACK THE FIFTH IS THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL.

SO SOME PEOPLE MIGHT STILL BE SCRAMBLING HOME THE LAST FEW MILES FROM THEIR HOLIDAY TRAVELS ON THE FOURTH.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT,

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UM, AND THAT'S FOR JANUARY THAT'S FOR JANUARY.

YEAH.

I THINK SCHOOLS, I THINK THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL IS THE NEXT DAY.

UM, OKAY.

THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

YEAH.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NOTHING THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME.

AND CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND? SO WE HAVE THE UTC DATE AND THE CURRENT UTC DATE.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ONLY GOING TO MEET ONCE A MONTH.

ARE YOU SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW, THE DATES THAT WE HAVE IN THE BOOKS OR THE YELLOW DATES, OR DO YOU HAVE THE ORANGE DATES IN THE BOOKS? WHAT'S WHAT IS IN THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW FOR THIS ROOM? THE ORANGE OR THE YELLOW? THE ORANGE.

GOTCHA.

SO WHEN THE YELLOW UTC DATE, IS THAT JUST WHEN WE USUALLY THOSE ARE THE PROPOSED, UH, DATES, UM, SO THAT WE CAN CONSISTENTLY MEET IN THIS ROOM AND I THINK HAPPENS IS, AND I COULD BE WRONG CAUSE IT'S JUST GOT HERE.

UH, BUT I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL RESERVE THE ROOM, BUT THEN ANOTHER BOARD OR COMMISSION WILL TAKE OVER THE ROOM FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.

UM, AND THEN WE ENDED UP HAVING TO SCRAMBLE TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE OR TO RESCHEDULE.

AND RATHER THAN DO THAT, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S EASIER TO JUST HAVE THE FIRST TUESDAY OPEN BECAUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON, A LOT OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DON'T MEET AT 5:00 PM ON THE FIRST TUESDAY.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A MUCH MORE FEASIBLE OPTION FOR THE UTC, BUT THAT'S NOT MY DECISION.

IT'S JUST AS AN ADVISEMENT AND YOU WILL HAVE TO DECIDE THAT.

AND WE TYPICALLY FORMALLY ADOPT THE DATES FOR THE NEXT YEAR, EVERY YEAR AND NOVEMBER, DECEMBER BASED ON WHEN THE ROOM IS AVAILABLE, JUST LOADED WHAT WE WANT YES.

BASED ON WHATEVER WE WANT.

AND, UM, SO WE HAD BEEN DOING SECOND TUESDAY FOR A LONG TIME.

WHEN I FIRST JOINED THIS BODY, WE WERE ACTUALLY MEETING OVER IN THE PRE PANDEMIC.

WE WERE ACTUALLY MEETING OVER IN THE AUSTIN ENERGY SITE AND WE HAD BEEN BUMPED THERE BECAUSE OF ANOTHER, UH, THE, THE NEEDS OF ANOTHER COMMISSION TO BE IN THIS ROOM.

BUT I THINK, UM, AND CHRISTOPHER COULD CORRECT ME IF I MISSPEAK IT IN ANY POINT.

I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE TOO, IS THAT WITH THE, UM, NOW ABILITY FOR HYBRID MODALITY ON THE MEETINGS, I THINK THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S POSSIBLE AT THE AUSTIN ENERGY SITE.

SO THAT'S CAUSING US SINCE THE PANDEMIC WE'VE BEEN BUMPING AROUND OUR MEETINGS TO TRY TO EITHER, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE HAVE EITHER TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER OR NOW TO TRY TO GET INTO THIS SPACE SO WE CAN USE THAT HYBRID MEDIA MODALITY.

DID I STATE EVERYTHING CLEARLY THERE, CHRISTOPHER? SO I THINK THAT IF WE CHOOSE, IF, IF THE, IF WE WANT TO VOTE AND CHOOSE ON THE FIRST TUESDAY, THEN WE COULD PRETTY CONSISTENTLY GUARANTEE THIS ROOM AND WE HAVE A HYBRID MADAME MEETING OPTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE INSIST UPON THESE SECOND TUESDAY, WHICH KEEPS US TO THE CURRENT CADENCE.

WE MIGHT HAVE A HARDER TIME EVERY SINGLE MONTH.

RIGHT.

AND ALSO TO BE CLEAR, WE'VE BASICALLY BEEN DOING FIRST TUESDAY FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS, EVEN THOUGH OFFICIALLY ON THE SITE.

AND LIKE YOU LOOK, EVERY SINGLE REGULAR MEETING IN 2021 HAS BEEN CANCELED IN FAVOR OF A SPECIAL MEETING, BASICALLY.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO STOP, STOP THAT PATTERN THAT WEEKEND.

I AM A FULLY IN FAVOR OF FIRST TUESDAY HERE.

YEAH.

DO I, DO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION? YEAH.

CYNTHIA HAD A QUESTION.

OH, WELL A COMMENT AND I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT SURE.

CERTAINLY IS GOOD FOR ME BECAUSE I'VE MANY TIMES HAD A MEETING ON TUESDAY NIGHT AND A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT IN A ROW BECAUSE OF THIS.

AND I JUST WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.

ONE IT'S MUCH BETTER TO BE IN THIS BUILDING.

IT'S A LOT MORE CONVENIENT AND USABLE.

YOU CAN SEE EACH OTHER.

THE OTHER LAYOUT WAS NOT VERY FAVORABLE FOR THAT.

AND I WOULD JUST CERTAINLY SUPPORT THIS AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SCHEDULE WITH THE PERSON.

WE HAVE A SECOND WHO CAN QUICKLY SECOND.

YES.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER, WHETHER IT BE IN A SECOND FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MEETING SCHEDULE? I GUESS THE ONLY IS TO YOUR POINT IS THE JANUARY 4TH MIGHT BE A LITTLE TIGHT IF PEOPLE ARE OUT ON VACATION, BUT THAT'S NO REASON NOT TO ADOPT THE YELLOW.

SURE.

BUT BECAUSE THE ARMS ON THE AGENDA, WE CAN FEEL FREE TO DISCUSS THAT.

UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY CHANGE THE FIRST MEETING DATE OF 20, 22 TO THE 11TH.

IF THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE, I'LL HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY SCHEDULE THAT.

BUT, UM, IT SHOULDN'T BE TOO MUCH OF A PROBLEM FOR ME.

OKAY.

IT'S WHATEVER YOU ALL WANT TO DO.

I NEED DISCUSSION.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T HAVE MY TICKETS YET, BUT I'M GOING, I BE, I'LL BE FLYING BACK EITHER THE THIRD OR THE FOURTH, MOST LIKELY, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW YET.

EXACTLY.

SO, YEAH.

OKAY.

AND THIS FLUID JUST AS ALWAYS, JUST KEEP ME UPDATED AND I CAN, I'LL DO WHAT I CAN.

SO YEAH, I WOULD SAY IN GENERAL, SORRY.

I WOULD SAY IN GENERAL, THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO PEOPLE'S HOLIDAY SCHEDULES.

IF WE WANT TO PREPLAN AHEAD, YOU KNOW, MOVE IT TO THE 11TH REGARDLESS, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, WE'RE GOING TO, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE PEOPLE MISSING OUT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A MEETING.

WE'RE GOING

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TO HAVE TO SCHEDULE A MEETING ANYWAYS.

SO I WOULD MOVE IF I CAN HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT WE MOVE JANUARY'S MEETING TO THE 11TH.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER, I GUESS WE SHOULD VOTE ON THE OTHER, REMINDING MYSELF OF ROBERT RULES.

PROBABLY EVERYBODY ELSE KNOWS ROBERT'S RULES BETTER THAN ME.

UM, WE SHOULD TAKE A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT AND THEN ON THE BASE.

YES.

OKAY.

SO LET'S UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THE AMENDMENT OFFERED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER FRANK RINKO? OKAY.

LET'S SEE FOR A VOTE THAT, THAT MOTION AGAIN IS TO MOVE THE JANUARY MEETING TO JANUARY 11TH, 2020 TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

AYE.

OKAY.

UH, ANY NOS ARE ABSTENTIONS.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT THAT DID COMMISSIONER DRISCOLL.

I'M SORRY.

DID YOU VOTE? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I JUST RAISED MY HAND, BUT THAT'S UH, THAT'S FINE.

OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

AND THEN, UM, WE COME BACK TO THE BASE MOTION.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT ITEM? ALL RIGHT.

LET'S CALL FOR A VOTE ON THAT ONE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING OUR 2022 MEETING SCHEDULE.

CAUSE LIKE WE'RE UNANIMOUS THERE.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

UM, AND IN TERMS OF HOW THIS WILL WORK WITH THE OTHER CONDITIONS, UM, YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS PRETTY MUCH MEET BEFORE EVERY OTHER COMMISSION, THE BAC WILL MEET, UM, THE MONDAY AFTER YOU GUYS AND SO WILL THE PAC.

SO, UM, I'M NOT THE ONLY, UH, ONLY THING I'M NOT SURE OF IS THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I'M NOT SURE WHEN THAT MEETS, BUT AGAIN, YOU, YOU WILL BE BEFORE THAT AS WELL.

UM, JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL THAT BRINGS US TO OUR, UH,

[3. STAFF BRIEFINGS]

BRIEFINGS, UH, ITEM THREE.

SO WE'LL JUST RUN THROUGH THOSE.

THE FIRST IS DOWNTOWN COMMISSION WITH A COMMISSIONER, WHETHER IT BE NOT REALLY ANY TRANSPORTATION RELATED ITEMS, THE, WE HAD AN ITEM THAT DROPPED OFF JUST LIKE WE HAVE HERE TONIGHT.

AND THERE WAS ONLY ONE ITEM THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THAT RELATES TO THE SAFER SIXTH STREET INITIATIVE.

BASICALLY THERE'S A, UH, A GROUP OF PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY STAFFING AREA THAT WORK ON THINGS DOWNTOWN AND ON PUBLIC SAFETY AND DEVELOPMENT AND ALL NUMBER OF THINGS, UH, TO TRY TO MAKE SIXTH STREET, A SAFER ENVIRONMENT TO TRY TO ATTRACT PEOPLES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO BARS, UM, AND TO CREATE A SAFER SITUATION FOR THOSE PEOPLE.

SO WAS AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION AND THEY'RE VERY OPEN TO ANY IDEAS OR SUGGESTIONS OF THE PERSON THAT PRESENTED WAS BRIAN BLOCK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

NEXT IS THE JOINT SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION.

I'M SAD TO REPORT FOR THE SECOND MONTH IN A ROW.

WE DID NOT MEET QUORUM BECAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE THIS BUILDING.

SO THE MEETING WAS AT THE NEW MUELLER, AUSTIN ENERGY BUILDING, BUT THE CHAIR COULDN'T MAKE IT.

SO BECAUSE OF THE RULES IMPOSED, WE COULD.

OKAY.

UM, COMMISSIONER LAYTON, ISN'T HERE FOR THE, UH, BICYCLE ADVISORY.

CHRISTOPHER SOMETIMES HAS UPDATE FOR US ON THAT ONE.

SURE.

UM, THE BIGGEST THING FOR THE BAC IS THAT THEY JUST ELECTED A NEW CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

UM, THEY JUST HAD THEIR ELECTIONS.

AND SO WE HAVE, UM, I'M SORRY, NINE NEW MEMBERS FOR NOT MISTAKEN, UM, JOINED THE BAC.

SO, UH, SAME FOR THE PAC.

THEY'RE VERY EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN THAT.

AND, UM, THAT'S REALLY ABOUT ALL, OKAY.

OH, I'M SORRY.

UM, THE BAC AND THE PAC BOTH MET YESTERDAY TO DISCUSS, UH, UM, UH, I GUESS, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL.

UM, THEY BOTH, THEY BOTH GOOSE DRAFTED A RECOMMENDATION THAT HAS BEEN SENT TO STAFF BEFORE THE, UH, CLOSING PERIOD, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO THAT ALSO HAPPENED, UM, COMMISSIONER BRUNETTES WITH PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY.

SO SINCE THEY HAD A JOINT MEETING, I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL UPDATES, BUT I DO HAVE A COPY OF THE DRAFT THAT I CAN FORWARD IF THAT'S KOSHER.

UM, IF ANYONE'S CURIOUS, WHAT'S THE DEADLINE FOR THE, UM, TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL OR LIKE WHAT, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR THAT? CAN YOU, IT, UM, THE, THE TIME PERIOD FOR PUBLIC COMMENT HAS PASSED, THE DEADLINE WAS YESTERDAY AT 11:59 PM.

UM, I, I'M NOT SURE, UH, FORGIVE HIM.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.

UM, MAYBE JIM CAN PROVIDE MORE UPDATES ON THAT, BUT, UH, IF I'M MISTAKEN, THEY'LL LOOK OVER THE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM EVERYONE AND, UH, YOU KNOW, DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES OR NOT SURE.

OKAY.

THANKS.

UM, UH, THE MOBILITY

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COMMITTEE, UH, COMMISSIONER CHAMPION, ISN'T WITH US, DO YOU, UM, NO REAL UPDATES.

SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET, WE MET BEFORE THEIR, THEIR MEETING LAST TIME.

UM, ACTUALLY WE MET AFTER IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN NOVEMBER BEFORE IT'S OKAY.

NO, NO REAL NEW UPDATES.

UM, THERE FOR THEIR AGENDA ON THE 10TH, THEY'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THEIR MEETING DATES AS WELL AS, UM, A FEW OTHER ITEMS. UH, ONE THING THAT I CAN UPDATE US ON THAT PERTAINS TO THE UTC, UM, YOU'LL SEE IN THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS AS WE GET TO IT, UH, THE RACIAL EQUITY DISPLACEMENT TOOL IS THERE.

UM, WE'RE STILL WORKING TO GET THAT ITEM BOTH ON THE UTC AGENDA, AS WELL AS THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE AGENDA.

UH, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES AS OF RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY BIG UPDATE.

AND SO THAT LEADS INTO THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP.

UM, WE ACTUALLY MET, I THINK THREE TIMES OR TWO TIMES IN OCTOBER, AND THEN I THINK SOME WORKING GROUPS MET.

SO THAT WAS A LOT, UM, WE HAD A S AN R A, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ASKED ABOUT OUR MEETING CADENCE.

IT SEEMS LIKE I THINK OUR MEETING CADENCE IS GOING TO BASICALLY BE FOURTH WEDNESDAY.

UM, AND SO, UM, THE BIGGEST ACT ACTION DISCUSSION WAS FOR THE, UH, JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT, WHICH IS THE LEGAL AGREEMENT THAT WILL BIND, KEPT METRO, THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP IN, UM, AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO CONDUCT THEIR, THEIR ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT CONNECT, UM, PERIOD.

AND SO, UM, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A JOINT MEETING OF THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP BOARD, C AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL, AND, UM, AND THE CAP METRO BOARD THIS PAST FRIDAY TO, UH, AT THE CONVENTION CENTER TO, UM, TO VOTE ON THE JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT.

UM, SO WE WERE TRYING TO SORT OF CANDIDLY THE, THE, UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE DIDN'T REALLY GET A LOT OF LEAD TIME TO REVIEW THE DRAFT JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT.

AND SO WE HAD A MEETING, WE HEARD A PRESENTATION ABOUT IT, AND THEN WE IMMEDIATELY, UM, HAD TO GO INTO A WORKING GROUP.

AND THEN WE PASSED SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT SOME OF WHICH DID GET INCORPORATED INTO THE, I THINK THE SECOND ROUND DRAFT OF THE JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT, UM, WHICH IS A PRETTY COMPLEX LEGAL DOCUMENT.

OBVIOUSLY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY DID NOT ACTUALLY GET TO VOTE ON THAT.

IT'S AT THE JOINT MEETING ON LAST FRIDAY, WHICH IS A RATHER, ALMOST SHOCKING RESULT.

SO, UM, I WOULD SAY SO, UM, I, I SUPPOSE I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THEY CLOSED PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT PERHAPS, UM, YOU MIGHT WANT TO REVIEW THE, UM, THE, THE DRAFT LANGUAGE AND, AND BACKUP IF THERE IS.

I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ANOTHER MEETING, BUT I ASSUME THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO CALL ANOTHER MEETING TO AT LEAST VOTE IF NOT TAKE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, BUT THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMISSION SORT OF, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY WE OFFERED A LOT OF, UH, I THINK REALLY GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS TO, UM, INCREASE ROBUST COMMUNITY INPUT INTO THE JPA.

AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT WE WERE DOING OVER OCTOBER.

AND I ACTUALLY THINK OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING, IT WAS ALSO SINCE WE HAD LIKE, SO WE HAD THE SEPTEMBER MEETING WE HAD, UM, CALLED MEETING TWO D ANYWAY, WE HAD LIKE THREE MEETINGS SINCE THIS BODY HAS MET.

AND THE OTHER MEETING, WE DID SEE A PRESENTATION ON, UM, THE EQUITY, THE PROCESS FOR EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, WHICH ACTUALLY THINK WOULD ALSO BE, SO THAT'S ALSO, IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE THEY'RE PARALLEL PROCESSES GOING ON WITH THE, UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH CA PROJECT CONNECT AND THE, UM, EQUITY TOOL.

BUT THEN THE CITY ALSO HAS AN EQUITABLE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

IT'S ALSO HAPPENING PARALLEL.

SO BOTH OF THESE, I THINK COULD BE VERY INTERESTING TO OUR BODY TO HEAR MORE ABOUT, AND I KNOW WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, ON THAT AS WELL.

I'LL STOP THERE.

WE HAD A LOT THIS MONTH, SO, ALL RIGHT, ANDREW, IT TURNS OUT THAT EACH OF THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS SHARES A PERSON.

SO ERIC STRATTON IS ON THE CAP METRO BOARD AND ON THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERS BOARD MAYOR ADLER IS ON THE CITY COUNCIL SO THAT WHENEVER THEY WENT INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, THEY HAD TO HAVE THREE SEPARATE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS, ONE PURCHASE.

OH, INTERESTING.

OH, WELL, HOPEFULLY THIS DOESN'T BODE ANYTHING FOR THE FUTURE.

I WOULD DEFINITELY, I THINK IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE PROJECT CONNECT, I THINK IT WOULD, EVERYONE SHOULD REVIEW THE DOCUMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT'S COME TOGETHER.

SO I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD TO I

[00:35:01]

FOR NOT FOR REPRESENTATION FROM MANY GROUPS, I ATTENDED THE ENTIRE MEETING BECAUSE I HAD FRIENDS FROM OUT OF TOWN WHO ARE GOING TO BE THERE.

AND THE THING THAT KEPT THEM FROM GETTING INTO ANY EXECUTIVE SESSION WAS PUBLIC INPUT BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A CONVENTION CENTER BALLROOM, AND THE TECHNOLOGY JUST WASN'T COOPERATING.

SO JUST LIKE AT CITY COUNCIL, OR SOMETIMES WHEN WE WERE MEETING VIRTUALLY, THEY HAD THIS WHOLE LINEUP OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK, BUT THE CONNECTION'S NOT WORKING.

AND THEN THERE WERE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WANTED TO SPEAK AND THEY GOT TO THOSE AND THEY JUST RAN OUT OF TIME.

THEY HAD A HARD STOP.

THEY STARTED AT 10:00 AM.

THEY HAD A HARD STOP AT ONE 30 AND THERE WASN'T TIME TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH WOULD HAVE HAD, AS YOU SAID, IT HAD TO BE CONSECUTIVE, NOT CONCURRENT.

AND I BELIEVE THE AGREEMENT AT THE END OF THE MEETING WAS TO TRY TO SEE IF THEY COULD EACH DO IT INDIVIDUALLY, DEPEND ON IT WILL DEPEND ON HOW MUCH EACH OF THEM FEEL LIKE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

UM, AND IT APPEARED THAT IN THE DAY BEFORE AND PERHAPS DAY AND A HALF, THEY HAD WORKED OUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT REFLECTED THE POSITIONS OF, UH, OVERSIGHT OF CONSTRUCTION AND PROBABLY ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST ALSO MENTIONED TOO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAME OUT OF YOUR, A LOT OF, A LOT OF LABOR ISSUES, ENSURING A REALLY ROBUST AND AUTHENTIC COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.

I THINK WE'RE THE, KIND OF THE MAJOR THRUSTS OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ALSO FROM WHAT I WAS HEARING WITH PUBLIC INPUT, BUT IT'S A, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A TREMENDOUSLY COMPLEX LEGAL DOCUMENT AS WELL.

SO, UM, AND THEY HAD TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, I THINK BECAUSE OF PERSONNEL ISSUES AND BECAUSE THERE'S A PUSH TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ON ALL THIS.

SO YES.

SO A LOT TO DO AND NOT ENOUGH TIME, BASICALLY.

TOTALLY.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT'S MY UPDATE.

UM, SO

[4. Future Agenda Items]

WE HAVE ON OUR FUTURE POSSIBLE AGENDA, UM, WE, WE REALLY HAVE BEEN GENERATING A REALLY GOOD LIST OF THIS.

I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR 2022.

SO WE HAVE, LET ME READ THROUGH THESE, UM, JUST, AND THEN IF THERE'S MORE, WE CAN ADD THEM HIGHWAY FUNDING, I THINK, UH, HOW WERE HIGHWAYS FUNDED OR HOW IS HIGHWAY FUNDING DECISIONS MADE, I THINK IS KIND OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, COMMISSIONER BOOKS WITH THAT, THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MEETING PROCEDURES, UH, A TDM UPDATE, ASM P UPDATE, UH, PRESENTATION FROM FARM AND CITY LADYBIRD BRIDGE, PROJECT CONNECT, RACIAL EQUITY, ANTSY DISPLACEMENT TOOL, AND THE RED RIVER EXTENSION.

SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, UM, IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU, WHICH IT MAY NOT BE, IT'S NOT, PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH FOR ME.

SO, UH, LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S, YOU'VE GOT COOKING OR THINKING THAT YOU WANT TO ADD FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MEETINGS HERE.

ABSOLUTELY.

UH, ANYONE CAN SUBMIT A, UH, ITEM REQUEST FORM.

I SEND THOSE OUT REGULARLY, I THINK, BUT, UM, JUST EMAILING ME IS ALSO A GOOD WAY TO JUST LET ME KNOW YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON YOUR MIND AND I CAN, YOU KNOW, GET STARTED ON IT AND GIVE YOU UPDATES AS IT DEVELOPS.

SO I DID HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING MY ITEM.

DID CHRIS, DID THEY EVER GIVE YOU A TIMELINE FOR WHEN THAT RFP MIGHT COME ON? CAUSE I AN EMAIL SEPARATELY FROM THAT REQUESTING THAT INFORMATION, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD BACK.

UM, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I CAN DOUBLE-CHECK UM, MY EMAILS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

I KNOW THAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD LOVE TO GET BACK WITH US IN DECEMBER FOR OUR DECEMBER 2ND DATE SEVENTH, I THINK.

UM, BUT I DON'T, I DIDN'T HAVE A RFE UPDATE.

NO.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE PEOPLE NEED, OBVIOUSLY, AS CHRISTOPHER SAID, THERE'S STILL THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THINGS VIA EMAIL OR THE ITEM REQUEST FORM, BUT ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WE HAVE COME TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA, UM, WITH THAT, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, I WILL CLOSE THE MEETING OF THE, UH, URBAN TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION OBJECTIONS.

IT'S 5:41 PM.

ALL RIGHT.



* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Speech-to-Text.